[
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1.wav",
        "text": "現在三黨的幹部都已經到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/2.wav",
        "text": "我們可以開始如期開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/3.wav",
        "text": "我們要特別謝謝教育部鄭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/4.wav",
        "text": "再一次蒞臨到院裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/5.wav",
        "text": "為了我們今天朝野協商課綱委員會的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/6.wav",
        "text": "部長您是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/7.wav",
        "text": "還是再一次報告因為上次有些黨團幹部可能沒聽清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/8.wav",
        "text": "您報告完就可以離席了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/9.wav",
        "text": "因為後面我們可以來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/10.wav",
        "text": "好不好這樣的話對你們對黨團來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/11.wav",
        "text": "\n我們先請教育部長報告完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/12.wav",
        "text": "就請他們離開好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/13.wav",
        "text": "不要浪費他們時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/14.wav",
        "text": "部長您根據我們第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/15.wav",
        "text": "好部長對不起請稍待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/16.wav",
        "text": "有黨團幹部有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/17.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/18.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/19.wav",
        "text": "不外乎就是要解決事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/20.wav",
        "text": "那我們今天看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/21.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨鞭也沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/22.wav",
        "text": "我們等傅崐萁來再講好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/23.wav",
        "text": "很多事情是我從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/24.wav",
        "text": "我把實況講給大家聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/25.wav",
        "text": "現在有幾個黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/26.wav",
        "text": "因為電梯非常地擁擠他們現在正在搭電梯柯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/27.wav",
        "text": "柯總召的意思是說等傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/28.wav",
        "text": "來他再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/29.wav",
        "text": "請大家稍微再等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/30.wav",
        "text": "院長課審委員會照正常比例也不用協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/31.wav",
        "text": "就發給大家簽一簽就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/32.wav",
        "text": "他們不必報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/33.wav",
        "text": "協商比例政黨比例我們簽一簽就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/34.wav",
        "text": "好大家請安靜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/35.wav",
        "text": "教育部鄭部長跟各位列席的教育部官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/36.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我跟柯總召也溝通了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/37.wav",
        "text": "到時候各政黨派代表就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/38.wav",
        "text": "您跟所有官員就請先離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/39.wav",
        "text": "這樣大家都輕鬆好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/40.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝鄭部長二次蒞臨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/41.wav",
        "text": "我們各黨團來派自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/42.wav",
        "text": "特別跟鄭部長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/43.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/44.wav",
        "text": "771是根據慣例嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/45.wav",
        "text": "謝謝教育部鄭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/46.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位教育部列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/47.wav",
        "text": "請各位黨團幹部聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/48.wav",
        "text": "有關行政院函請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/49.wav",
        "text": "推舉社會公正人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/50.wav",
        "text": "組成高級中學以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/51.wav",
        "text": "學校課程審議會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/52.wav",
        "text": "審查會乙案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/53.wav",
        "text": "依政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/54.wav",
        "text": "由國民黨推派7位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/55.wav",
        "text": "名單請於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/56.wav",
        "text": "12月26號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/57.wav",
        "text": "（星期四）中午12點前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/58.wav",
        "text": "逾時視同放棄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/59.wav",
        "text": "\n各位在座黨團幹部都沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/60.wav",
        "text": "簽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/61.wav",
        "text": "詢問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/62.wav",
        "text": "課程審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/63.wav",
        "text": "因為它現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/64.wav",
        "text": "12月24號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/65.wav",
        "text": "任期屆滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/66.wav",
        "text": "\n不過現場人都跑掉了是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/67.wav",
        "text": "由於這個是26號送議事處彙整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/68.wav",
        "text": "整這個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/69.wav",
        "text": "因為24號就任期屆滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/70.wav",
        "text": "會不會有影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/71.wav",
        "text": "會不會有實質的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/72.wav",
        "text": "我來回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/73.wav",
        "text": "啦24號到期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/74.wav",
        "text": "然後771大家都簽好了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/75.wav",
        "text": "到了以後不是隔一天就開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/76.wav",
        "text": "所以並不會影響啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/77.wav",
        "text": "各政黨比例出來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/78.wav",
        "text": "這種召集開會可能一二三月都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/79.wav",
        "text": "所以根本不會影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/80.wav",
        "text": "沒問題的我立刻跟教育部協調這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/81.wav",
        "text": "如果他們沒有任何影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/82.wav",
        "text": "如果他們有影響我再跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/83.wav",
        "text": "好不好好好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/84.wav",
        "text": "我特別補充報告教育部正式通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/85.wav",
        "text": "1月21號之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/86.wav",
        "text": "把名單送過去就OK了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/87.wav",
        "text": "1月21號之前所以時間一定夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/88.wav",
        "text": "特別跟王鴻薇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/89.wav",
        "text": "首席副書記長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/90.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部各位列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/91.wav",
        "text": "首先柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/92.wav",
        "text": "對程序問題有意見請表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/93.wav",
        "text": "請傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/94.wav",
        "text": "注意聽好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/95.wav",
        "text": "我今天在這裡要表達的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/96.wav",
        "text": "我們希望要有一個中立院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/97.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/98.wav",
        "text": "立法院長中立是國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/99.wav",
        "text": "非常重要的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/100.wav",
        "text": "所以今天特別請韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/101.wav",
        "text": "來主持朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/102.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼要這樣講呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/103.wav",
        "text": "因為我們中間有發很多文給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/104.wav",
        "text": "我等一下一一敘明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/105.wav",
        "text": "明院長表示你可以來表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/106.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/107.wav",
        "text": "是我們對於這整個始末"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/108.wav",
        "text": "今天的開會通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/109.wav",
        "text": "是開會到晚上6點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/110.wav",
        "text": "然後時間可以彈性調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/111.wav",
        "text": "這個到底是什麼玩意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/112.wav",
        "text": "一般委員會到5點半就5點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/113.wav",
        "text": "萁想要延長開會到12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/114.wav",
        "text": "然後把這輾壓過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/115.wav",
        "text": "門都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/116.wav",
        "text": "會議場所的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/117.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/118.wav",
        "text": "要每個人都有麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/119.wav",
        "text": "在紅樓101"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/120.wav",
        "text": "各黨只有一支麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/121.wav",
        "text": "然後在做這種舞弊的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/122.wav",
        "text": "所以針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/123.wav",
        "text": "針對以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/124.wav",
        "text": "我表示嚴重抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/125.wav",
        "text": "好我現在開始講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/126.wav",
        "text": "我可以先回答嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/127.wav",
        "text": "這個你都必須接受的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/128.wav",
        "text": "我現在開始講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/129.wav",
        "text": "有關選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/130.wav",
        "text": "今天在爭議的就是審選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/131.wav",
        "text": "當天把人圍起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/132.wav",
        "text": "不讓人進去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/133.wav",
        "text": "然後自己開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/134.wav",
        "text": "算數的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/135.wav",
        "text": "我就請問院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/136.wav",
        "text": "以後院會也可以如此嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/137.wav",
        "text": "把門鎖起來不讓民進黨進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/138.wav",
        "text": "然後國民黨在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/139.wav",
        "text": "三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/140.wav",
        "text": "請問韓院長你會配合嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/141.wav",
        "text": "絕對不可能嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/142.wav",
        "text": "我要談的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/143.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/144.wav",
        "text": "大家協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/145.wav",
        "text": "我們說有什麼事情照議事程序來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/146.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/147.wav",
        "text": "包括證交法什麼的都要通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/148.wav",
        "text": "乃至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/149.wav",
        "text": "要表決的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/150.wav",
        "text": "就是原住民族委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/151.wav",
        "text": "讓我們發言完畢表決輸了就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/152.wav",
        "text": "至於後面我們要釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/153.wav",
        "text": "或是要提出訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/154.wav",
        "text": "那是後面的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/155.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/156.wav",
        "text": "的我們要確定這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/157.wav",
        "text": "這樣院會以後才可以進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/158.wav",
        "text": "你沒有程序正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/159.wav",
        "text": "其他的都不必講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/160.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們在上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/161.wav",
        "text": "很有誠意的包括跟傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/162.wav",
        "text": "大家協商簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/163.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民族委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/164.wav",
        "text": "曾經在兩個禮拜前打過架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/165.wav",
        "text": "我不希望再這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/166.wav",
        "text": "子立法院不應該這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/167.wav",
        "text": "至少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/168.wav",
        "text": "程序正義要守住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/169.wav",
        "text": "表決輸了後續的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/170.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/171.wav",
        "text": "包括爾後這幾個重大法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/172.wav",
        "text": "我要在這裡談的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/173.wav",
        "text": "從本月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/174.wav",
        "text": "也就是禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/175.wav",
        "text": "是我們的延會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/176.wav",
        "text": "這一個月的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/177.wav",
        "text": "是臺灣最關鍵的時刻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/178.wav",
        "text": "因為所有國民黨要毀憲亂政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/179.wav",
        "text": "括憲法訴訟法財劃法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/180.wav",
        "text": "警察人員人事條例等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/181.wav",
        "text": "所有國民黨要的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/182.wav",
        "text": "全部集中在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/183.wav",
        "text": "一看這些法案都是大有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/184.wav",
        "text": "的不是國民黨認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/185.wav",
        "text": "輾壓過去就可以得逞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/186.wav",
        "text": "我這樣講的意思就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/187.wav",
        "text": "未來這一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/188.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的民主能不能夠踐行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/189.wav",
        "text": "踐行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/190.wav",
        "text": "未來臺灣這個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/191.wav",
        "text": "還是處於高度的衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/192.wav",
        "text": "底下就看未來這一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/193.wav",
        "text": "這一點我們大家先有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/194.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們就想好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/195.wav",
        "text": "維持程序正義我們輸了我們可以認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/196.wav",
        "text": "了這個是一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/197.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/198.wav",
        "text": "踐行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/199.wav",
        "text": "於是乎我們就看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/200.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/201.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會排了選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/202.wav",
        "text": "也就是說多一票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/203.wav",
        "text": "的這個選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/204.wav",
        "text": "是沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/205.wav",
        "text": "另外這一包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/206.wav",
        "text": "是多一票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/207.wav",
        "text": "所以傅崐萁委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/208.wav",
        "text": "在禮拜天晚上7點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/209.wav",
        "text": "以一副"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/210.wav",
        "text": "很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/211.wav",
        "text": "忠厚老實狀的問我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/212.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/213.wav",
        "text": "啊我是這樣講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/214.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/215.wav",
        "text": "但是不希望有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/216.wav",
        "text": "然後有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/217.wav",
        "text": "違法的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/218.wav",
        "text": "等一下我要講秘書長的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/219.wav",
        "text": "這一點要先跟大家講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/220.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁一副老朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/221.wav",
        "text": "狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/222.wav",
        "text": "很撒嬌禮拜天晚上7點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/223.wav",
        "text": "我們禮拜一要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/224.wav",
        "text": "很簡單就是照議事程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/225.wav",
        "text": "處理我們上禮拜五是照這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/226.wav",
        "text": "的委員會亦復如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/227.wav",
        "text": "就大體討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/228.wav",
        "text": "以這樣的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/229.wav",
        "text": "因為禮拜一是一整天的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/230.wav",
        "text": "到最後出委員會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/231.wav",
        "text": "只是在最後不到1分鐘的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/232.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/233.wav",
        "text": "所以不管委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/234.wav",
        "text": "院會都應該遵守這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/235.wav",
        "text": "我說是這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/236.wav",
        "text": "說禮拜天晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/237.wav",
        "text": "我找我們黨團所有的幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/238.wav",
        "text": "這一排都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/239.wav",
        "text": "還有比這一排更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/240.wav",
        "text": "到我辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/241.wav",
        "text": "我們找一半的人到我們辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/242.wav",
        "text": "我來遊說我們黨團成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/243.wav",
        "text": "不管怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/244.wav",
        "text": "秉持這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/245.wav",
        "text": "今天我們在國會少數也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/246.wav",
        "text": "堅持要這樣的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/247.wav",
        "text": "因為過去我們都曾經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/248.wav",
        "text": "執政過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/249.wav",
        "text": "少數執政過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/250.wav",
        "text": "也國會少數過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/251.wav",
        "text": "只剩下27個也在搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/252.wav",
        "text": "至少有一個基本的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/253.wav",
        "text": "所以我就告訴傅崐萁說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/254.wav",
        "text": "今天晚上8點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/255.wav",
        "text": "我會把我們這整排的幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/256.wav",
        "text": "找到辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/257.wav",
        "text": "我來遊說他們我們不要打架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/258.wav",
        "text": "我們來建立立法院的典範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/259.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們是少數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/260.wav",
        "text": "但是我們要照遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/261.wav",
        "text": "那是一回事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/262.wav",
        "text": "這樣民主才會踐行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/263.wav",
        "text": "犧牲了多少上一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/264.wav",
        "text": "一代臺灣人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/265.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/266.wav",
        "text": "幾十年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/267.wav",
        "text": "我們好不容易走到民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/268.wav",
        "text": "我們要好好珍惜這是我們堅持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/269.wav",
        "text": "我從事民主運動已經60年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/270.wav",
        "text": "民國60年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/271.wav",
        "text": "我就在黨外時期到今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/272.wav",
        "text": "我還在堅持一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/273.wav",
        "text": "要認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/274.wav",
        "text": "但是我們至少要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/275.wav",
        "text": "站在道德裡面贏得民心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/276.wav",
        "text": "橫柴入灶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/277.wav",
        "text": "永遠都沒用啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/278.wav",
        "text": "國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/279.wav",
        "text": "的百年政黨會倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/280.wav",
        "text": "看得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/281.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個民主的基本原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/282.wav",
        "text": "而且守護臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/283.wav",
        "text": "守護民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/284.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨的DNA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/285.wav",
        "text": "所以我告訴傅崐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/286.wav",
        "text": "崐萁我8點遊說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/287.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/288.wav",
        "text": "這些人都是被我遊說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/289.wav",
        "text": "我們照規則來輸了就算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/290.wav",
        "text": "然後開完黨團會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/291.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁很急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/292.wav",
        "text": "沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/293.wav",
        "text": "我們就照這樣來做就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/294.wav",
        "text": "\n其實我不是不認識傅崐萁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/295.wav",
        "text": "我認識他很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/296.wav",
        "text": "在處理事情不是在玩股票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/297.wav",
        "text": "可以叫人家說要買多你再放空的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/298.wav",
        "text": "我老朋友我才知道你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/299.wav",
        "text": "但是你用在老柯身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/300.wav",
        "text": "或用在立法院上是不通的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/301.wav",
        "text": "你看他現在笑起來很尷尬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/302.wav",
        "text": "所以我就知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/303.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁在搞什麼鬼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/304.wav",
        "text": "他問完以後他說你們人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/305.wav",
        "text": "怎麼跑去那邊照相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/306.wav",
        "text": "我們就馬上走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/307.wav",
        "text": "明天見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/308.wav",
        "text": "明天見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/309.wav",
        "text": "啊這個千載"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/310.wav",
        "text": "趕快讓他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/311.wav",
        "text": "全部進駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/312.wav",
        "text": "進駐的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/313.wav",
        "text": "你所模擬的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/314.wav",
        "text": "其實我都想過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/315.wav",
        "text": "奇招異術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/316.wav",
        "text": "議事規則沒有人比我更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/317.wav",
        "text": "班門弄斧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/318.wav",
        "text": "竊取任何智財權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/319.wav",
        "text": "因為我早就知道傅崐萁和徐欣瑩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/320.wav",
        "text": "還有國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/321.wav",
        "text": "有人在立法院出沒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/322.wav",
        "text": "我們在晚上就看到你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/323.wav",
        "text": "在裡面出沒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/324.wav",
        "text": "我就知道這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/325.wav",
        "text": "下一秒鐘就馬上把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/326.wav",
        "text": "一個鐵門拉下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/327.wav",
        "text": "鎖起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/328.wav",
        "text": "他們全部進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/329.wav",
        "text": "另外一個鐵門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/330.wav",
        "text": "用桌子擋住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/331.wav",
        "text": "阻卻民進黨的人進入議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/332.wav",
        "text": "有個天才叫徐巧芯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/333.wav",
        "text": "還用保鮮膜把門封起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/334.wav",
        "text": "以為民進黨已經藏在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/335.wav",
        "text": "結果他門打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/336.wav",
        "text": "這是那天的場景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/337.wav",
        "text": "推擠造成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/338.wav",
        "text": "景象以及難看的場面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/339.wav",
        "text": "電視都有在報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/340.wav",
        "text": "我們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/341.wav",
        "text": "他們耍詐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/342.wav",
        "text": "韓院長你大概不會忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/343.wav",
        "text": "這個禮拜一的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/344.wav",
        "text": "八點多我就打電話給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/345.wav",
        "text": "那時候還沒9點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/346.wav",
        "text": "然後你聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/347.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁的指揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/348.wav",
        "text": "排了很多法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/349.wav",
        "text": "但是那時候排的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/350.wav",
        "text": "還比較正常一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/351.wav",
        "text": "從發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/352.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/353.wav",
        "text": "然後老人福利法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/354.wav",
        "text": "憲法訴訟法以及財劃法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/355.wav",
        "text": "放在最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/356.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/357.wav",
        "text": "調虎離山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/358.wav",
        "text": "讓我們腹背受敵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/359.wav",
        "text": "今天早上這個衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/360.wav",
        "text": "已經是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/361.wav",
        "text": "大家都非常緊張的時刻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/362.wav",
        "text": "豈可以下午再來搞這一套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/363.wav",
        "text": "你聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/364.wav",
        "text": "然後韓院長我稱讚你很明理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/365.wav",
        "text": "於是我馬上打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/366.wav",
        "text": "八點多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/367.wav",
        "text": "打給傅總召他現在還在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/368.wav",
        "text": "假裝看手機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/369.wav",
        "text": "傅總召聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/370.wav",
        "text": "他同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/371.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/372.wav",
        "text": "一再確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/373.wav",
        "text": "9點鐘以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/374.wav",
        "text": "突然打一個電話給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/375.wav",
        "text": "說我們不是要照步來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/376.wav",
        "text": "你以為我不知道你們在搞什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/377.wav",
        "text": "林淑芬把電腦以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/378.wav",
        "text": "我說那個不太影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/379.wav",
        "text": "吧那就大家停下來協商就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/380.wav",
        "text": "我們既然要照程序來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/381.wav",
        "text": "我就叫他拿回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/382.wav",
        "text": "我們開始發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/383.wav",
        "text": "照程序來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/384.wav",
        "text": "後老朋友傅崐萁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/385.wav",
        "text": "又興起了他炒作股票的念頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/386.wav",
        "text": "下一秒就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/387.wav",
        "text": "通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/388.wav",
        "text": "根本把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/389.wav",
        "text": "而且馬上出委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/390.wav",
        "text": "在一個沒有議事人員在場的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/391.wav",
        "text": "後來議事人員抓進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/392.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/393.wav",
        "text": "不讓人進去但可以開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/394.wav",
        "text": "院會也可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/395.wav",
        "text": "喔我今天下午還打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/396.wav",
        "text": "給我以前一個老朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/397.wav",
        "text": "叫徐欣瑩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/398.wav",
        "text": "他過去在新竹曾經跟我們合作過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/399.wav",
        "text": "也是老朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/400.wav",
        "text": "他是一個吃素的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/401.wav",
        "text": "也是妙天的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/402.wav",
        "text": "弟子勸人為善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/403.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣可以那立法院關門就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/404.wav",
        "text": "了他竟然跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/405.wav",
        "text": "瞎話他說我門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/406.wav",
        "text": "門沒有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/407.wav",
        "text": "我說我知道你門沒有關但我們的人都不能走到那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/408.wav",
        "text": "你不要跟我講這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/409.wav",
        "text": "很重要的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/410.wav",
        "text": "認這個帳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/411.wav",
        "text": "\n所以後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/412.wav",
        "text": "他們真的這樣搞的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/413.wav",
        "text": "我很好意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/414.wav",
        "text": "但我們所有黨團成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/415.wav",
        "text": "非常生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/416.wav",
        "text": "思瑤帶我們黨團成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/417.wav",
        "text": "在議場門口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/418.wav",
        "text": "開記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/419.wav",
        "text": "那是非常感動的一刻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/420.wav",
        "text": "因為我在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/421.wav",
        "text": "辦公室裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/422.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/423.wav",
        "text": "帶我們黨團成員所有人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/424.wav",
        "text": "在議場門口開記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/425.wav",
        "text": "表示嚴重的抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/426.wav",
        "text": "我還很好意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/427.wav",
        "text": "馬上打電話給韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/428.wav",
        "text": "你要有心理準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/429.wav",
        "text": "韓院長當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/430.wav",
        "text": "他就翹頭了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/431.wav",
        "text": "我是好意啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/432.wav",
        "text": "他們要進入院長辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/433.wav",
        "text": "當然周萬來擋住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/434.wav",
        "text": "不能擅闖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/435.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/436.wav",
        "text": "就到中間你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/437.wav",
        "text": "接待外賓的地方那裡等你來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/438.wav",
        "text": "嘛你一直都沒有出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/439.wav",
        "text": "我知道你一定不會出現的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/440.wav",
        "text": "我們馬上發文給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/441.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/442.wav",
        "text": "因為下午兩點半要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/443.wav",
        "text": "定會出現嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/444.wav",
        "text": "第一個是發文給你早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/445.wav",
        "text": "那是違法的行為我們一概不認帳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/446.wav",
        "text": "假如這樣的話所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/447.wav",
        "text": "以發表一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/448.wav",
        "text": "嚴正的聲明給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/449.wav",
        "text": "各位手上都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/450.wav",
        "text": "阿川你分送給對面參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/451.wav",
        "text": "表達我們是絕對沒有辦法認帳的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/452.wav",
        "text": "我唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/453.wav",
        "text": "公職人員選罷法發生國民黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/454.wav",
        "text": "阻擋其他委員到內政交通兩個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/455.wav",
        "text": "會簽到發生重大衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/456.wav",
        "text": "委員出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/457.wav",
        "text": "在程序不完備之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/458.wav",
        "text": "在此表示嚴重抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/459.wav",
        "text": "爰就今天下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/460.wav",
        "text": "兩點鐘黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/461.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/462.wav",
        "text": "韓院長擇期再開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/463.wav",
        "text": "不處理的話你再談法案就沒有用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/464.wav",
        "text": "到內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/465.wav",
        "text": "送給內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/466.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會召委說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/467.wav",
        "text": "你不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/468.wav",
        "text": "違法再發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/469.wav",
        "text": "絕對會移送法辦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/470.wav",
        "text": "公務人員行政必須行政中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/471.wav",
        "text": "不只到監察院不只是到法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/472.wav",
        "text": "都可以告你行政不中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/473.wav",
        "text": "立我現在言明在先你不可以這樣亂搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/474.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/475.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商來解決這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/476.wav",
        "text": "請你不要發文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/477.wav",
        "text": "─周萬來我何曾不認識呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/478.wav",
        "text": "來竟然可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/479.wav",
        "text": "命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/480.wav",
        "text": "這個違法的秘書長非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/481.wav",
        "text": "院長已經考慮要議處了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/482.wav",
        "text": "委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/483.wav",
        "text": "叫他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/484.wav",
        "text": "發文發審查報告出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/485.wav",
        "text": "我們今天早上果然收到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/486.wav",
        "text": "真是何其離譜啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/487.wav",
        "text": "一個立法院秘書長可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/488.wav",
        "text": "公然違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/489.wav",
        "text": "\n什麼叫委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/490.wav",
        "text": "所謂的委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/491.wav",
        "text": "給我看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/492.wav",
        "text": "這根本棄絕法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/493.wav",
        "text": "禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/494.wav",
        "text": "那天你到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/495.wav",
        "text": "立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/496.wav",
        "text": "家圍起來不讓你開嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/497.wav",
        "text": "後來你就到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/498.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/499.wav",
        "text": "你跟我們所有的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/500.wav",
        "text": "成員協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/501.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/502.wav",
        "text": "我們所有的幹部都在那裡等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/503.wav",
        "text": "等韓院長的一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/504.wav",
        "text": "結果你來了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/505.wav",
        "text": "竟然也講這是委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/506.wav",
        "text": "院長你不要被周萬來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/507.wav",
        "text": "誆了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/508.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/509.wav",
        "text": "委員會中心主義不是這樣解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/510.wav",
        "text": "你要依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/511.wav",
        "text": "我講給你聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/512.wav",
        "text": "你所有的權力來源就在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/513.wav",
        "text": "最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/514.wav",
        "text": "這個一個中立型的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/515.wav",
        "text": "包括王金平院長以前都遂行這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/516.wav",
        "text": "第68條怎麼講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/517.wav",
        "text": "議案協商有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/518.wav",
        "text": "衝突與糾紛的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/519.wav",
        "text": "院長可以主動召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/520.wav",
        "text": "不管委員會在哪裡亂起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/521.wav",
        "text": "院長當然要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/522.wav",
        "text": "召集大家來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/523.wav",
        "text": "好好的讓立法院能平順\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/524.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/525.wav",
        "text": "各黨團也可以發文叫你召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/526.wav",
        "text": "所以這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/527.wav",
        "text": "一個很重要的法律基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/528.wav",
        "text": "也就是職權行使法第68條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/529.wav",
        "text": "韓院長你所有的權力全部都在這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/530.wav",
        "text": "而且我曾經跟你講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/531.wav",
        "text": "我過去曾罵你是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/532.wav",
        "text": "歷史罪人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/533.wav",
        "text": "但是那天我還在臺上跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/534.wav",
        "text": "會變成歷史偉人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/535.wav",
        "text": "立法院──國家的民主燈塔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/536.wav",
        "text": "能夠繼續發光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/537.wav",
        "text": "國家民主憲政體制能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/538.wav",
        "text": "踐行當作世界法案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/539.wav",
        "text": "標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/540.wav",
        "text": "這是我們所驕傲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/541.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/542.wav",
        "text": "韓院長只要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/543.wav",
        "text": "踐行立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/544.wav",
        "text": "會得到歷史該給你的桂冠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/545.wav",
        "text": "這是我講的\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/546.wav",
        "text": "今天我們再回到這裡的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/547.wav",
        "text": "我們就發文給你了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/548.wav",
        "text": "剛才院長也講過一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/549.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係等一下都可以講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/550.wav",
        "text": "你再來裁決這一點我很感謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/551.wav",
        "text": "我希望剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/552.wav",
        "text": "我進來時跟你講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/553.wav",
        "text": "而且你具體想講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/554.wav",
        "text": "也不外乎這幾個字而已就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/555.wav",
        "text": "我們有意見的話他會秉公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/556.wav",
        "text": "秉公處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/557.wav",
        "text": "所以接下來我要看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/558.wav",
        "text": "韓院長你要怎麼接這個球"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/559.wav",
        "text": "在我對面的傅崐萁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/560.wav",
        "text": "崐萁戴起眼鏡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/561.wav",
        "text": "還有一點學問的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/562.wav",
        "text": "但其實內心是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/563.wav",
        "text": "土匪狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/564.wav",
        "text": "老兵跟你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/565.wav",
        "text": "你不要弄這套來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/566.wav",
        "text": "不要搞這套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/567.wav",
        "text": "你不是流氓就不要耍流氓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/568.wav",
        "text": "這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/569.wav",
        "text": "要吵也要有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/570.wav",
        "text": "你還不夠格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/571.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我今天要講的就是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/572.wav",
        "text": "未來一個月是臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/573.wav",
        "text": "假如可以藍白合起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/574.wav",
        "text": "白的就不講了白的反正已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/575.wav",
        "text": "你們不想執政我也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/576.wav",
        "text": "你這樣搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/577.wav",
        "text": "連大法官釋憲出來你們都不認帳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/578.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/579.wav",
        "text": "不管怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/580.wav",
        "text": "讓外人都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/581.wav",
        "text": "講話比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/582.wav",
        "text": "一般老百姓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/583.wav",
        "text": "都還沒有法學常識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/584.wav",
        "text": "也不想執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/585.wav",
        "text": "要破壞民主體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/586.wav",
        "text": "但是唯有臺灣的民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/587.wav",
        "text": "繼續往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/588.wav",
        "text": "這是我們永不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/589.wav",
        "text": "退卻的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/590.wav",
        "text": "所以今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/591.wav",
        "text": "在這個事情還沒釐清以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/592.wav",
        "text": "我還是要講一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/593.wav",
        "text": "所有這些脫序行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/594.wav",
        "text": "假如可以的話立法院關門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/595.wav",
        "text": "而且我先發文給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/596.wav",
        "text": "我們法案的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/597.wav",
        "text": "但是我很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/598.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁打的主意是今天晚上開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/599.wav",
        "text": "到12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/600.wav",
        "text": "但朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/601.wav",
        "text": "所有委員會院會都開到5點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/602.wav",
        "text": "不是你喊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/603.wav",
        "text": "喊12點就開到12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/604.wav",
        "text": "喊10點就開到10點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/605.wav",
        "text": "然後就開始大表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/606.wav",
        "text": "表決的時候把民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/607.wav",
        "text": "抓進去架在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/608.wav",
        "text": "配合他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/609.wav",
        "text": "我想院長你應該不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/610.wav",
        "text": "如此的就範吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/611.wav",
        "text": "我想這一點很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/612.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五是一個重要關鍵時刻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/613.wav",
        "text": "我不知道國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/614.wav",
        "text": "昨天在排什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/615.wav",
        "text": "60小時的接力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/616.wav",
        "text": "接力排班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/617.wav",
        "text": "既然我們都講好院會都要照程序來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/618.wav",
        "text": "有何需要排班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/619.wav",
        "text": "壓迫韓院長配合他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/620.wav",
        "text": "反正條文很少一下子就過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/621.wav",
        "text": "代表他們的犯行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/622.wav",
        "text": "全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/623.wav",
        "text": "遂行這可得嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/624.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得非常困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/625.wav",
        "text": "到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/626.wav",
        "text": "我們全部發言完畢表決輸了就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/627.wav",
        "text": "我們來釋憲或是緊急處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/628.wav",
        "text": "這是我們必須遵守的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/629.wav",
        "text": "包括上次也一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/630.wav",
        "text": "上次國會擴權法案如此地粗暴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/631.wav",
        "text": "圍起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/632.wav",
        "text": "然後舉手表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/633.wav",
        "text": "請問立法院還可以再這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/634.wav",
        "text": "這樣的演出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/635.wav",
        "text": "經整個大法官釋憲出來裡面全部違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/636.wav",
        "text": "國民黨得到什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/637.wav",
        "text": "呢難道這個教訓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/638.wav",
        "text": "還不夠嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/639.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五還有一個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/640.wav",
        "text": "我想傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/641.wav",
        "text": "與韓院長包括今天沒有來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/642.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/643.wav",
        "text": "本來證交法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/644.wav",
        "text": "要通過黃國昌反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/645.wav",
        "text": "後來黃國昌逼不得已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/646.wav",
        "text": "再來簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/647.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五說這個禮拜五要把它唸過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/648.wav",
        "text": "把它放到後面去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/649.wav",
        "text": "放到後面的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/650.wav",
        "text": "到底我們立法院是要怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/651.wav",
        "text": "異想天開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/652.wav",
        "text": "如此幼稚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/653.wav",
        "text": "這個走得通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/654.wav",
        "text": "嗎所以我要講的是證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/655.wav",
        "text": "那個影響股民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/656.wav",
        "text": "非常深遠請不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/657.wav",
        "text": "兒戲好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/658.wav",
        "text": "大家講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/659.wav",
        "text": "議事規則照程序來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/660.wav",
        "text": "話韓院長我很感謝你說的一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/661.wav",
        "text": "大家照議事規則來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/662.wav",
        "text": "但傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/663.wav",
        "text": "總召你要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/664.wav",
        "text": "傅總召講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/665.wav",
        "text": "好你們大家都是黨鞭講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/666.wav",
        "text": "你還跟我叮嚀這句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/667.wav",
        "text": "代表你懂得這個道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/668.wav",
        "text": "但是傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/669.wav",
        "text": "傅總召他懂得這個道理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/670.wav",
        "text": "他以為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/671.wav",
        "text": "國會過半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/672.wav",
        "text": "整個臺灣都由他們掌控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/673.wav",
        "text": "而且也會轉動全世界的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/674.wav",
        "text": "請你聽進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/675.wav",
        "text": "開會是合議制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/676.wav",
        "text": "必須遵守議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/677.wav",
        "text": "臺北沒有花蓮王你放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/678.wav",
        "text": "我這關你過不了的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/679.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召第一輪的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/680.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨跟台灣民眾黨的委員做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/681.wav",
        "text": "發言準備\n就柯總召剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/682.wav",
        "text": "垂詢的部分我快速回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/683.wav",
        "text": "但今天紅樓302"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/684.wav",
        "text": "802是羅美玲委員借了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/685.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不得已借了紅樓101"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/686.wav",
        "text": "柯總召電話說羅美玲的會3點半結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/687.wav",
        "text": "所以我們立刻再換到群賢樓802"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/688.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有什麼陰謀詭計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/689.wav",
        "text": "這點沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/690.wav",
        "text": "我們都是可以談話的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/691.wav",
        "text": "關於各黨團來函"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/692.wav",
        "text": "院本部一定會排這點毋庸置疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/693.wav",
        "text": "我快速唸一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/694.wav",
        "text": "12月13日國民黨113"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/695.wav",
        "text": "立協字130號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/696.wav",
        "text": "函請協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/697.wav",
        "text": "院長室12月13日（星期五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/698.wav",
        "text": "）15點55分發文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/699.wav",
        "text": "並通知三個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/700.wav",
        "text": "協商12月13日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/701.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團立民眾字第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/702.wav",
        "text": "11300103號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/703.wav",
        "text": "函請協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/704.wav",
        "text": "院長室12月13日（星期五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/705.wav",
        "text": "）下午5點16分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/706.wav",
        "text": "更正發文我們也通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/707.wav",
        "text": "三個黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/708.wav",
        "text": "12月13日國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/709.wav",
        "text": "函12月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/710.wav",
        "text": "早上8點2分再次更正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/711.wav",
        "text": "發文並通知三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/712.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商\n在這裡跟各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/713.wav",
        "text": "也相信我們院本部各位只要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/714.wav",
        "text": "正式黨團來函我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/715.wav",
        "text": "一定會排絕對不會有大小眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/716.wav",
        "text": "這一點跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/717.wav",
        "text": "\n至於所謂中立的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/718.wav",
        "text": "只要坐在主席臺上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/719.wav",
        "text": "我跟議事組所有的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/720.wav",
        "text": "開會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/721.wav",
        "text": "但我們先根據慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/722.wav",
        "text": "不是我說我們時間還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/723.wav",
        "text": "而今天下午因為開會開得比較晚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/724.wav",
        "text": "院長我反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/725.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我先講我的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/726.wav",
        "text": "這不是早晚的問題這是道理的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/727.wav",
        "text": "你現在說6點之後就變成10點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/728.wav",
        "text": "你先讓我講啊你講了30分鐘我都不講話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/729.wav",
        "text": "你還有意見可以隨時糾正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/730.wav",
        "text": "並跟大家報告好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/731.wav",
        "text": "第一輪發言請國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/732.wav",
        "text": "跟台灣民眾黨團準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/733.wav",
        "text": "發言完畢我們到第二輪再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/734.wav",
        "text": "特別謝謝韓院長你真的很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/735.wav",
        "text": "立法院真的是眾生相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/736.wav",
        "text": "說法說詞都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/737.wav",
        "text": "所以也請您多包涵多忍耐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/738.wav",
        "text": "不過我還是要明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/739.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯總召又把30年前的故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/740.wav",
        "text": "雖然這一年來我們聽過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/741.wav",
        "text": "很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/742.wav",
        "text": "這30年前的故事也run了很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/743.wav",
        "text": "所以一講講了半個小時剛好30分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/744.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都有算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/745.wav",
        "text": "不要有人來插嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/746.wav",
        "text": "這是基本的民主素養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/747.wav",
        "text": "當然沒有民主素養的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/748.wav",
        "text": "我們可以看清楚是哪一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/749.wav",
        "text": "你要去哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/750.wav",
        "text": "你要去哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/751.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛不是說我沒有到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/752.wav",
        "text": "你於心不忍不能講話嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/753.wav",
        "text": "對不對我跟你長相左右跑回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/754.wav",
        "text": "你現在要出去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/755.wav",
        "text": "所以我必須站起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/756.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/757.wav",
        "text": "啦你講話這些人都在聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/758.wav",
        "text": "我不是講給他們聽的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/759.wav",
        "text": "我講一句公平話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/760.wav",
        "text": "好不好讓柯總召站著他會在那邊聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/761.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/762.wav",
        "text": "我們正在會議中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/763.wav",
        "text": "柯總召一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/764.wav",
        "text": "所以我們把所有的事放下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/765.wav",
        "text": "我們的黨團幹部就可以處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/766.wav",
        "text": "到第二個議題我再來都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/767.wav",
        "text": "說要我趕快趕過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/768.wav",
        "text": "那我就趕過來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/769.wav",
        "text": "說沒有我在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/770.wav",
        "text": "他不講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/771.wav",
        "text": "所以你們大家看到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/772.wav",
        "text": "現在我在發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/773.wav",
        "text": "民主紳士的風度是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/774.wav",
        "text": "我們大家也都看懂了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/775.wav",
        "text": "人民的眼睛是雪亮的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/776.wav",
        "text": "會清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/777.wav",
        "text": "大家在朝野協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/778.wav",
        "text": "到底在講什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/779.wav",
        "text": "特別明確一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/780.wav",
        "text": "\n當然老柯也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/781.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國會的活字典"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/782.wav",
        "text": "也真的是很不容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/783.wav",
        "text": "三十多年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/784.wav",
        "text": "他只是一個在野黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/785.wav",
        "text": "陽春小立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/786.wav",
        "text": "這30年來的功力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/787.wav",
        "text": "啊練就半甲子的功力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/788.wav",
        "text": "整個發揮的程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/789.wav",
        "text": "真的不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/790.wav",
        "text": "我從老柯開始抓牙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/791.wav",
        "text": "蟲開始就認識他到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/792.wav",
        "text": "啊我覺得人的成長跟成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/793.wav",
        "text": "我們都要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/794.wav",
        "text": "欽佩也要給他祝福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/795.wav",
        "text": "畢竟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/796.wav",
        "text": "在這個社會上要成功的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/797.wav",
        "text": "都有一段非常艱辛的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/798.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/799.wav",
        "text": "柯總召雖然講一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/800.wav",
        "text": "不是很事實的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/801.wav",
        "text": "也很不堪的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/802.wav",
        "text": "他在那邊講我還是都洗耳恭聽"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/803.wav",
        "text": "這就是國會一個基本的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/804.wav",
        "text": "\n我想到今天我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/805.wav",
        "text": "不斷的在繞一些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/806.wav",
        "text": "我還是聽不太懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/807.wav",
        "text": "東繞西繞南繞北繞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/808.wav",
        "text": "我還是聽不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/809.wav",
        "text": "到底哪一件事情是事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/810.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/811.wav",
        "text": "剛好這麼多人來捧場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/812.wav",
        "text": "到底是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/813.wav",
        "text": "讓立法院的會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/814.wav",
        "text": "開不成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/815.wav",
        "text": "貽笑國際大方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/816.wav",
        "text": "是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/817.wav",
        "text": "帶著黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/818.wav",
        "text": "在進攻主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/819.wav",
        "text": "讓會議沒有辦法開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/820.wav",
        "text": "這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/821.wav",
        "text": "人民不是沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/822.wav",
        "text": "動輒會議要開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/823.wav",
        "text": "就衝上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/824.wav",
        "text": "不管院會委員會都在那裡衝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/825.wav",
        "text": "\n院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/826.wav",
        "text": "真的一套制度要出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/827.wav",
        "text": "啦我們都不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/828.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候能開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/829.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國會要經過民進黨的同意才能開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/830.wav",
        "text": "這是中華民國的羞恥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/831.wav",
        "text": "啊像今天內政委員會早上要開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/832.wav",
        "text": "到剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/833.wav",
        "text": "大隊人馬移到這裡來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/834.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會剛剛才可以開始開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/835.wav",
        "text": "終於可以開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/836.wav",
        "text": "我還是要謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/837.wav",
        "text": "因為您在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/838.wav",
        "text": "觀眾多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/839.wav",
        "text": "所以內政委員會現在就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/840.wav",
        "text": "沒什麼人在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/841.wav",
        "text": "我們終於可以順利來開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/842.wav",
        "text": "\n我在這裡還是要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/843.wav",
        "text": "指鹿為馬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/844.wav",
        "text": "到底誰在破壞議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/845.wav",
        "text": "到底誰在癱瘓議事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/846.wav",
        "text": "到底誰不讓大家來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/847.wav",
        "text": "我們一直講民主社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/848.wav",
        "text": "你在這裡要怎麼表達都是予以尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/849.wav",
        "text": "所有的溝通都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/850.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/851.wav",
        "text": "民主就是數人頭嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/852.wav",
        "text": "都是代表民意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/853.wav",
        "text": "但民進黨現在在這裡都是比拳頭啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/854.wav",
        "text": "這就是很奇怪的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/855.wav",
        "text": "21世紀的國會還有在比拳頭的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/856.wav",
        "text": "不是在數人頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/857.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都代表著他的民意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/858.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這裡要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/859.wav",
        "text": "我30年前認識的老柯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/860.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/861.wav",
        "text": "現在練就了一身的武功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/862.wav",
        "text": "真的是不得了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/863.wav",
        "text": "一天到晚顛倒是非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/864.wav",
        "text": "他講得真的很幽默"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/865.wav",
        "text": "說禮拜天我打電話給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/866.wav",
        "text": "現在iPhone記錄的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/867.wav",
        "text": "的有夠久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/868.wav",
        "text": "他從禮拜五就一直找我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/869.wav",
        "text": "都是柯建銘都是紅字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/870.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五禮拜六一直找我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/871.wav",
        "text": "到禮拜天還在找我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/872.wav",
        "text": "我在想都搞到這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/873.wav",
        "text": "了那我就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/874.wav",
        "text": "禮拜天回一個電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/875.wav",
        "text": "這也是基於禮貌嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/876.wav",
        "text": "因為朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/877.wav",
        "text": "黨鞭還是要溝通嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/878.wav",
        "text": "所以我回了電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/879.wav",
        "text": "非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/880.wav",
        "text": "熱忱的講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/881.wav",
        "text": "非常熱忱的說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/882.wav",
        "text": "非常熱忱的說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/883.wav",
        "text": "30分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/884.wav",
        "text": "不好意思你講完30分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/885.wav",
        "text": "現在換我講30分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/886.wav",
        "text": "我要特別表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/887.wav",
        "text": "柯總召在電話裡面真的很熱忱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/888.wav",
        "text": "說是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/889.wav",
        "text": "我們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/890.wav",
        "text": "明天9點來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/891.wav",
        "text": "我聽了以後很感動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/892.wav",
        "text": "我聽了很感動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/893.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/894.wav",
        "text": "因為我們是禮拜五就已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/895.wav",
        "text": "發6點甲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/896.wav",
        "text": "我想這個甲動大家都在都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/897.wav",
        "text": "6點鐘就發甲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/898.wav",
        "text": "不是說禮拜天跟他講完以後發甲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/899.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團所有的人連助理都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/900.wav",
        "text": "我們就是6點甲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/901.wav",
        "text": "但是一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/902.wav",
        "text": "禮拜天晚上接到這個電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/903.wav",
        "text": "以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/904.wav",
        "text": "突然民進黨轉性了說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/905.wav",
        "text": "立法院可以開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/906.wav",
        "text": "我非常感動啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/907.wav",
        "text": "只差沒有涕零而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/908.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/909.wav",
        "text": "到了9點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/910.wav",
        "text": "哇臉書就開始PO了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/911.wav",
        "text": "什麼東西都出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/912.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/913.wav",
        "text": "黨內就開始炸鍋了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/914.wav",
        "text": "說他們禮拜天晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/915.wav",
        "text": "就已經去排隊了怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/916.wav",
        "text": "那通電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/917.wav",
        "text": "我就主動問老柯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/918.wav",
        "text": "我問現在是什麼狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/919.wav",
        "text": "他說沒有沒有那個只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/920.wav",
        "text": "擺拍待會就沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/921.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/922.wav",
        "text": "我也在國民黨的大群組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/923.wav",
        "text": "雖然有幾位年輕的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/924.wav",
        "text": "衝到立法院來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/925.wav",
        "text": "但是我在大群組也有發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/926.wav",
        "text": "就不要過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/927.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一早上再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/928.wav",
        "text": "這個大群組都有留文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/929.wav",
        "text": "都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/930.wav",
        "text": "在禮拜天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/931.wav",
        "text": "雙方都還是有誠意沒有誤判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/932.wav",
        "text": "我們早上6點甲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/933.wav",
        "text": "過去民進黨熟能生巧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/934.wav",
        "text": "翻山越嶺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/935.wav",
        "text": "逢洞也可以鑽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/936.wav",
        "text": "到處都可以從哪裡進到會議室我們都不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/937.wav",
        "text": "大概撬門鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/938.wav",
        "text": "也是熟能生巧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/939.wav",
        "text": "還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/940.wav",
        "text": "凌晨不知道幾點鐘就在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/941.wav",
        "text": "我們到的時候才發現裡面的冷氣已經開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/942.wav",
        "text": "這不得了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/943.wav",
        "text": "啊這功力太高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/944.wav",
        "text": "國民黨過去以來一向溫良恭儉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/945.wav",
        "text": "所以我們6點鐘到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/946.wav",
        "text": "要確認幾件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/947.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/948.wav",
        "text": "門可以打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/949.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/950.wav",
        "text": "確定麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/951.wav",
        "text": "不要又被搶了還是被折斷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/952.wav",
        "text": "因為每一次麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/953.wav",
        "text": "不是被拔斷就是丟到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/954.wav",
        "text": "主席臺被弄得一塌糊塗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/955.wav",
        "text": "這個都是大家在電視上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/956.wav",
        "text": "視上一天到晚看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/957.wav",
        "text": "民進黨是常業慣犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/958.wav",
        "text": "我們要確保禮拜一是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/959.wav",
        "text": "可以開會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/960.wav",
        "text": "檢查麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/961.wav",
        "text": "還要等到有人來開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/962.wav",
        "text": "箱之後才有麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/963.wav",
        "text": "結果再發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/964.wav",
        "text": "更誇張的一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/965.wav",
        "text": "這是2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/966.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/967.wav",
        "text": "啊竟然說沒有筆電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/968.wav",
        "text": "就不能開會沒辦法連線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/969.wav",
        "text": "筆電裡面還必須要有程式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/970.wav",
        "text": "我聽了更傻眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/971.wav",
        "text": "這就不曉得哪裡內神通了外鬼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/972.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團沒有人知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/973.wav",
        "text": "要有筆電才能開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/974.wav",
        "text": "哇民進黨立委不得了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/975.wav",
        "text": "攔路打劫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/976.wav",
        "text": "把內政委員會的三臺筆電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/977.wav",
        "text": "都搶走了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/978.wav",
        "text": "真的是不能開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/979.wav",
        "text": "真的沒有辦法開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/980.wav",
        "text": "我們還冒著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/981.wav",
        "text": "跑到旁邊飛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/982.wav",
        "text": "飛簷走壁到旁邊去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/983.wav",
        "text": "跑到教育委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/984.wav",
        "text": "再從一樓拋到二樓還好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/985.wav",
        "text": "有接住不然就摔壞了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/986.wav",
        "text": "才把這個東西接起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/987.wav",
        "text": "接起來後議事人員又告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/988.wav",
        "text": "到9點鐘才能連線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/989.wav",
        "text": "才能連線說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/990.wav",
        "text": "會議開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/991.wav",
        "text": "所以在9點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/992.wav",
        "text": "連線之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/993.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會的門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/994.wav",
        "text": "也打開了我們都有錄影"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/995.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會的門是開著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/996.wav",
        "text": "並沒有關著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/997.wav",
        "text": "歡迎大家進來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/998.wav",
        "text": "當時我也打了電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/999.wav",
        "text": "8點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1000.wav",
        "text": "這就是民主素養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1001.wav",
        "text": "民主素養就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1002.wav",
        "text": "8點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1003.wav",
        "text": "8點50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1004.wav",
        "text": "都有紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1005.wav",
        "text": "都有紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1006.wav",
        "text": "8點50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1007.wav",
        "text": "都有電話紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1008.wav",
        "text": "打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1009.wav",
        "text": "8點50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1010.wav",
        "text": "打給柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1011.wav",
        "text": "你連我人頭讓你數都沒辦法數啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1012.wav",
        "text": "8點50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1013.wav",
        "text": "請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1014.wav",
        "text": "8點50分我打給柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1015.wav",
        "text": "說是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1016.wav",
        "text": "這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1017.wav",
        "text": "大家進來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1018.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講說這個沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1019.wav",
        "text": "在走廊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1020.wav",
        "text": "衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1021.wav",
        "text": "是不是給它結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1022.wav",
        "text": "讓大家進來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1023.wav",
        "text": "柯總召說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1024.wav",
        "text": "剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1025.wav",
        "text": "剛剛已經衝突了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1026.wav",
        "text": "所以現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1027.wav",
        "text": "沒有人會相信你講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1028.wav",
        "text": "他也沒法度插手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1029.wav",
        "text": "我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1030.wav",
        "text": "你們拿了筆電走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1031.wav",
        "text": "讓我們不能開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1032.wav",
        "text": "我們9點鐘是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1033.wav",
        "text": "確定會議不會有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1034.wav",
        "text": "那你說你現在沒有辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1035.wav",
        "text": "你沒有辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1036.wav",
        "text": "那擺明就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1037.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1038.wav",
        "text": "要現場衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1039.wav",
        "text": "要現場衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1040.wav",
        "text": "你現在沒辦法通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1041.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1042.wav",
        "text": "既然現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1043.wav",
        "text": "要衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1044.wav",
        "text": "我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1045.wav",
        "text": "不管是國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1046.wav",
        "text": "大家都不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1047.wav",
        "text": "有誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1048.wav",
        "text": "受到身體的傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1049.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1050.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法promise說現在怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1051.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你說現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1052.wav",
        "text": "休息協商我們來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1053.wav",
        "text": "你們馬上把它通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1054.wav",
        "text": "我們在上個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1055.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1056.wav",
        "text": "是不是能簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1057.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠坐在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1058.wav",
        "text": "座位上好好開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1059.wav",
        "text": "柯總召說他不能簽這個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1060.wav",
        "text": "我們說朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1061.wav",
        "text": "好好開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1062.wav",
        "text": "能不能簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1063.wav",
        "text": "執政黨的黨鞭都說他不能簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1064.wav",
        "text": "了我們也不知道為什麼不能簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1065.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1066.wav",
        "text": "我想過去20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1067.wav",
        "text": "在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1068.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1069.wav",
        "text": "20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1070.wav",
        "text": "都不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1071.wav",
        "text": "有誰可以牴觸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1072.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1073.wav",
        "text": "當然柯總召非常神聖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1074.wav",
        "text": "他的金科玉律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1075.wav",
        "text": "有任何的執著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1076.wav",
        "text": "都不能有任何的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1077.wav",
        "text": "我想我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1078.wav",
        "text": "再一次的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1079.wav",
        "text": "再一次的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1080.wav",
        "text": "立法院每一位委員都是受到人民的託付來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1081.wav",
        "text": "不要講禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1082.wav",
        "text": "我們光看看今天早上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1083.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1084.wav",
        "text": "再看看在多少天前的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1085.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1086.wav",
        "text": "為什麼大家不能開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1087.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1088.wav",
        "text": "可是議事人員還被禁錮在裡面不能出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1089.wav",
        "text": "這都是柯總召的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1090.wav",
        "text": "只要你不喜歡那個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1091.wav",
        "text": "立法院就不能開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1092.wav",
        "text": "哇這真的是笑話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1093.wav",
        "text": "不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1094.wav",
        "text": "我也了解在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1095.wav",
        "text": "在禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1096.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1097.wav",
        "text": "不管是文攻武嚇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1098.wav",
        "text": "還是今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1099.wav",
        "text": "說實在的我們都不是被嚇大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1100.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1101.wav",
        "text": "國昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1102.wav",
        "text": "黃總召沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1103.wav",
        "text": "大概是知道在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1104.wav",
        "text": "一個朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1105.wav",
        "text": "提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1106.wav",
        "text": "委員或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1107.wav",
        "text": "該委員會的召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1108.wav",
        "text": "就是不可以在這裡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1109.wav",
        "text": "從第1個會期第1次朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1110.wav",
        "text": "就講到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1111.wav",
        "text": "結果柯總召在這裡呼風喚雨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1112.wav",
        "text": "20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1113.wav",
        "text": "撂那麼大因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1114.wav",
        "text": "院長召集朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1115.wav",
        "text": "是比人多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1116.wav",
        "text": "這種朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1117.wav",
        "text": "還有它的意義嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1118.wav",
        "text": "當時早就講好了遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1119.wav",
        "text": "每每破壞遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1120.wav",
        "text": "的就是柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1121.wav",
        "text": "柯總召現在是立法院的神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1122.wav",
        "text": "立法院的神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1123.wav",
        "text": "法案跟每一個人都有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1124.wav",
        "text": "我在講話每個人都要插嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1125.wav",
        "text": "這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1126.wav",
        "text": "院長召集的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1127.wav",
        "text": "不是在比人多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1128.wav",
        "text": "我再一次的強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1129.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1130.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1131.wav",
        "text": "這是法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1132.wav",
        "text": "法案還可以說3個人來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1133.wav",
        "text": "立法院的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1134.wav",
        "text": "你還有遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1135.wav",
        "text": "蘇嘉全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1136.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1137.wav",
        "text": "2016年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1138.wav",
        "text": "4月29號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1139.wav",
        "text": "上午10點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1140.wav",
        "text": "在本院的議場宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1141.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1142.wav",
        "text": "選出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1143.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1144.wav",
        "text": "他在議場宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1145.wav",
        "text": "為落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1146.wav",
        "text": "本院協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1147.wav",
        "text": "制度今後議案交付協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1148.wav",
        "text": "黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1149.wav",
        "text": "務必召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1150.wav",
        "text": "如果黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1151.wav",
        "text": "沒有召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1152.wav",
        "text": "院會暫不處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1153.wav",
        "text": "俟黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1154.wav",
        "text": "召集協商後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1155.wav",
        "text": "無法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1156.wav",
        "text": "71條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1157.wav",
        "text": "規定處理交院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1158.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1159.wav",
        "text": "不管是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1160.wav",
        "text": "憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1161.wav",
        "text": "還是財劃法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1162.wav",
        "text": "出委員會之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1163.wav",
        "text": "都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1164.wav",
        "text": "由委員會召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1165.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1166.wav",
        "text": "記錄在案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1167.wav",
        "text": "2015年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1168.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1169.wav",
        "text": "院長已經宣布了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1170.wav",
        "text": "院會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1171.wav",
        "text": "我們再一次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1172.wav",
        "text": "當院長的時候再來宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1173.wav",
        "text": "新的案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1174.wav",
        "text": "我們在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1175.wav",
        "text": "再一次的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1176.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1177.wav",
        "text": "當你當柯院長的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1178.wav",
        "text": "你要打破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1179.wav",
        "text": "蘇嘉全蘇院長的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1180.wav",
        "text": "本席並不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1181.wav",
        "text": "要特別講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1182.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1183.wav",
        "text": "院長召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1184.wav",
        "text": "我們是一個尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1185.wav",
        "text": "就是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1186.wav",
        "text": "也是對民進黨的尊重"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1187.wav",
        "text": "因為在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1188.wav",
        "text": "出委員會之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1189.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1190.wav",
        "text": "就可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1191.wav",
        "text": "送院會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1192.wav",
        "text": "今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1193.wav",
        "text": "所有的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1194.wav",
        "text": "沒有達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1195.wav",
        "text": "未來就可以交院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1196.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1197.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1198.wav",
        "text": "我要謝謝韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1199.wav",
        "text": "我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1200.wav",
        "text": "11月15號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1201.wav",
        "text": "就提出了請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1202.wav",
        "text": "11月15號"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1203.wav",
        "text": "提出了請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1204.wav",
        "text": "院長協商憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1205.wav",
        "text": "11月25號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1206.wav",
        "text": "再次請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1207.wav",
        "text": "院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1208.wav",
        "text": "憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1209.wav",
        "text": "院長還沒召開啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1210.wav",
        "text": "然後在13號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1211.wav",
        "text": "再一次的請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1212.wav",
        "text": "院長協商憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1213.wav",
        "text": "所以不要誣賴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1214.wav",
        "text": "韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1215.wav",
        "text": "不要誣賴韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1216.wav",
        "text": "韓院長是依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1217.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1218.wav",
        "text": "13號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1219.wav",
        "text": "所再一次發文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1220.wav",
        "text": "的請協商順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1221.wav",
        "text": "法案順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1222.wav",
        "text": "依照請求的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1223.wav",
        "text": "別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1224.wav",
        "text": "來排序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1225.wav",
        "text": "這也是非常合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1226.wav",
        "text": "11月15號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1227.wav",
        "text": "就敦請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1228.wav",
        "text": "召集憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1229.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1230.wav",
        "text": "在12月13號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1231.wav",
        "text": "針對排序的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1232.wav",
        "text": "請依照過去的時間傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1233.wav",
        "text": "你可以這樣幹嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1234.wav",
        "text": "走得過去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1235.wav",
        "text": "立法院是你在制定規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1236.wav",
        "text": "啊法律也不管嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1237.wav",
        "text": "我沒有獨霸一方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1238.wav",
        "text": "我全部照議事規則來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1239.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1240.wav",
        "text": "不是新竹王臺北王"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1241.wav",
        "text": "現在是臺灣王"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1242.wav",
        "text": "就是要聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1243.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1244.wav",
        "text": "還是今天對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1245.wav",
        "text": "院長的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1246.wav",
        "text": "以及對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1247.wav",
        "text": "柯總召的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1248.wav",
        "text": "以及對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1249.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1250.wav",
        "text": "雖然出委員會之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1251.wav",
        "text": "已經完成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1252.wav",
        "text": "法定的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1253.wav",
        "text": "委員會已經召集各政黨協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1254.wav",
        "text": "之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1255.wav",
        "text": "請你去找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1256.wav",
        "text": "蘇嘉全院長理論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1257.wav",
        "text": "不要在這裡跟本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1258.wav",
        "text": "一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1259.wav",
        "text": "所以我們再一次的強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1260.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1261.wav",
        "text": "各政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1262.wav",
        "text": "不是三長出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1263.wav",
        "text": "國民黨沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1264.wav",
        "text": "參加今天這樣的一個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1265.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1266.wav",
        "text": "啊那大家走那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1267.wav",
        "text": "就是沒有實質協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1268.wav",
        "text": "怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1269.wav",
        "text": "要去跟習近平報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1270.wav",
        "text": "要去跟習近平報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1271.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1272.wav",
        "text": "不要講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1273.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1274.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是要問一下台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1275.wav",
        "text": "還有一輪發言的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1276.wav",
        "text": "他講得多講得少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1277.wav",
        "text": "或他不講話是他的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1278.wav",
        "text": "但他有這個權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1279.wav",
        "text": "\n麥玉珍委員如果你要一輪發言請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1280.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1281.wav",
        "text": "我有幾個問題想要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1282.wav",
        "text": "我們今天是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1283.wav",
        "text": "但我沒有聽到協商的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1284.wav",
        "text": "也沒有看到要協商的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1285.wav",
        "text": "我不知道要來幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1286.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1287.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1288.wav",
        "text": "我們內政委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1289.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1290.wav",
        "text": "就是一整天沒有開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1291.wav",
        "text": "我們今天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1292.wav",
        "text": "就來簽名要開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1293.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1294.wav",
        "text": "很多都不是內政委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1295.wav",
        "text": "霸占那邊讓我們沒辦法去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1296.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的浪費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1297.wav",
        "text": "誰要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1298.wav",
        "text": "所有人來了要不要領薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1299.wav",
        "text": "這些政府的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1300.wav",
        "text": "人民的預算誰來賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1301.wav",
        "text": "我不懂我才要問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1302.wav",
        "text": "因為內政委員要開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1303.wav",
        "text": "所有在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1304.wav",
        "text": "的一半以上不是內政委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1305.wav",
        "text": "在那邊等也沒開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1306.wav",
        "text": "你禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1307.wav",
        "text": "有沒有去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1308.wav",
        "text": "你禮拜一有沒有去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1309.wav",
        "text": "我請假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1310.wav",
        "text": "你禮拜一請假我不能請假嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1311.wav",
        "text": "你禮拜一為什麼不去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1312.wav",
        "text": "我你同意國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1313.wav",
        "text": "你沒有禮貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1314.wav",
        "text": "所以說他們都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1315.wav",
        "text": "院長那麼多人去欺負一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1316.wav",
        "text": "在講話這不是算霸凌嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1317.wav",
        "text": "人家在講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1318.wav",
        "text": "你們在吵什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1319.wav",
        "text": "這個是立委的禮貌嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1320.wav",
        "text": "一點禮貌都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1321.wav",
        "text": "我講話我有我的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1322.wav",
        "text": "我有我的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1323.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我看到的是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1324.wav",
        "text": "我們早上在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1325.wav",
        "text": "我們也等著開會我們也進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1326.wav",
        "text": "我和高金也進去要等開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1327.wav",
        "text": "我不能在內政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1328.wav",
        "text": "聽你們演講一整天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1329.wav",
        "text": "沒有開會我們在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1330.wav",
        "text": "聽你們演講嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1331.wav",
        "text": "你們喜歡在電視上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1332.wav",
        "text": "我們把舞臺讓給你我們內政委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1333.wav",
        "text": "讓給你們演你們演一整天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1334.wav",
        "text": "演到現在內政開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1335.wav",
        "text": "我們要回去開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1336.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1337.wav",
        "text": "議事規則誰來訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1338.wav",
        "text": "訂我們不知道你們怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1339.wav",
        "text": "現在在協商講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1340.wav",
        "text": "跟協商內容不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1341.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是協商嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1342.wav",
        "text": "我們的立法院裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1343.wav",
        "text": "是要來溝通還是來吵架的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1344.wav",
        "text": "都沒有溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1345.wav",
        "text": "變成你吵你的我吵我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1346.wav",
        "text": "我講我的道理你講你的道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1347.wav",
        "text": "我們在臺灣的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1348.wav",
        "text": "都是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1349.wav",
        "text": "所以我是要請教你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1350.wav",
        "text": "那麼多經歷都是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1351.wav",
        "text": "如果是要討論事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1352.wav",
        "text": "我們好好去討論事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1353.wav",
        "text": "我們的老大召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1354.wav",
        "text": "你們要去協商好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1355.wav",
        "text": "再來討論沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1356.wav",
        "text": "就是變成來這邊吵來吵去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1357.wav",
        "text": "亂來亂去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1358.wav",
        "text": "這樣開會就是正常的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1359.wav",
        "text": "覺得我們沒辦法再繼續開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1360.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1361.wav",
        "text": "在開會了也請我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1362.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會所有委員回去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1363.wav",
        "text": "我也要回去開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1364.wav",
        "text": "那你禮拜一怎麼不來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1365.wav",
        "text": "我禮拜一沒有開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1366.wav",
        "text": "我不能請假嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1367.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1368.wav",
        "text": "今天不能開會你問召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1369.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不來主持啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1370.wav",
        "text": "徐欣瑩不來主持啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1371.wav",
        "text": "徐欣瑩不來主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1372.wav",
        "text": "麥委員看我的眼睛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1373.wav",
        "text": "謝謝你的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1374.wav",
        "text": "我要講一句話歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1375.wav",
        "text": "歸我講一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1376.wav",
        "text": "我們看到柯總召跟傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1377.wav",
        "text": "前半場他們互相像瓊瑤的愛情小說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1378.wav",
        "text": "我認識你30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1379.wav",
        "text": "後半場像金庸武俠小說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1380.wav",
        "text": "所以我在想今天的氣氛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1381.wav",
        "text": "是朝野協商有史以來最差的一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1382.wav",
        "text": "我特別要拜託大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1383.wav",
        "text": "這是很棒的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1384.wav",
        "text": "這是很重要的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1385.wav",
        "text": "請各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1386.wav",
        "text": "要重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1387.wav",
        "text": "也要保護這個朝野溝通的平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1388.wav",
        "text": "因為這非常重要好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1389.wav",
        "text": "我們只能休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1390.wav",
        "text": "院長你答應我們要處理禮拜一的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1391.wav",
        "text": "對啊禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1392.wav",
        "text": "我們禮拜一的爭議一直存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1393.wav",
        "text": "我們就看你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16387/1394.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家來參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/0.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/1.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/2.wav",
        "text": "詢問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/3.wav",
        "text": "是不是你講沒關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/4.wav",
        "text": "呢因為我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/5.wav",
        "text": "要確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/6.wav",
        "text": "會以後才可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/7.wav",
        "text": "我們再來釋憲大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/8.wav",
        "text": "我們就照這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/9.wav",
        "text": "午不要朝野協商朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/10.wav",
        "text": "這是他所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/11.wav",
        "text": "公然違法\n什麼叫委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/12.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商的時候執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/13.wav",
        "text": "我沒有聽到協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/14.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16386/15.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/0.wav",
        "text": "發的開會通知是兩點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/1.wav",
        "text": "所以我一定要在這裡如期舉行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/2.wav",
        "text": "至於協商不成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/3.wav",
        "text": "\n今天我們也非常感謝教育部的鄭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/4.wav",
        "text": "教育部國民及學前教育署的彭署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/5.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/6.wav",
        "text": "國家教育研究院的顏副院長熱情歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/7.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部現在民進黨沒有參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/8.wav",
        "text": "請問一下你們有什麼寶貴意見請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/9.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/10.wav",
        "text": "我們朝野協商通知的議程已經確定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/11.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/12.wav",
        "text": "敬請院長讓我們繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/13.wav",
        "text": "把今天的議程繼續協商完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/14.wav",
        "text": "請台灣民眾黨表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/15.wav",
        "text": "我們是依照院長所發的開會通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/16.wav",
        "text": "來參加協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/17.wav",
        "text": "如果因為有黨團沒有參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/18.wav",
        "text": "導致沒有辦法遂行的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/19.wav",
        "text": "拜託院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/20.wav",
        "text": "我們一切就按照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/21.wav",
        "text": "依序的進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/22.wav",
        "text": "這個原則我覺得很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/23.wav",
        "text": "否則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/24.wav",
        "text": "如果我們建立起一個奇怪的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/25.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫奇怪的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/26.wav",
        "text": "就是黨團協商我可以不要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/27.wav",
        "text": "又再堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/28.wav",
        "text": "說沒有經過什麼實質的討論協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/29.wav",
        "text": "院會不能處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/30.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/31.wav",
        "text": "我要癱瘓立法院的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/32.wav",
        "text": "真的太容易了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/33.wav",
        "text": "你每次主持協商我都不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/34.wav",
        "text": "然後用相同的理由當作藉口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/35.wav",
        "text": "說院會不能處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/36.wav",
        "text": "我想依照立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/37.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/38.wav",
        "text": "依照立法院的議事規則也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/39.wav",
        "text": "都不是這樣解釋的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/40.wav",
        "text": "我們經過一個月的協商冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/41.wav",
        "text": "有召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/42.wav",
        "text": "協商沒有辦法成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/43.wav",
        "text": "我們一切就按照議事規則來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/44.wav",
        "text": "這個是台灣民眾黨黨團希望表達的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/45.wav",
        "text": "之前在好幾次院長召集的協商當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/46.wav",
        "text": "其實我們一而再再而三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/47.wav",
        "text": "的跟議事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/48.wav",
        "text": "包括秘書長都已經確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/49.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/50.wav",
        "text": "所規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/51.wav",
        "text": "議事進行程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/52.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個基本原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/53.wav",
        "text": "應該是滿重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/54.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/55.wav",
        "text": "因為今天的協商通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/56.wav",
        "text": "好像變動了好幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/57.wav",
        "text": "是台灣民眾黨黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/58.wav",
        "text": "院會結束的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/59.wav",
        "text": "候我有去請教院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/60.wav",
        "text": "院長說叫我們趕快發通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/61.wav",
        "text": "我也發了通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/62.wav",
        "text": "我看到的開會通知單上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/63.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/64.wav",
        "text": "我拿到的是舊的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/65.wav",
        "text": "吹哨者保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/66.wav",
        "text": "應該要在上面啊\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/67.wav",
        "text": "沒有第六案是憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/68.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在拿到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/69.wav",
        "text": "舊的開會通知是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/70.wav",
        "text": "公益揭弊者保護法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/71.wav",
        "text": "啊我現在桌上放的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/72.wav",
        "text": "舊的是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/73.wav",
        "text": "所以現在有新的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/74.wav",
        "text": "是因為上個禮拜五的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/75.wav",
        "text": "我先跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/76.wav",
        "text": "了台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/77.wav",
        "text": "本來也有提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/78.wav",
        "text": "說要延長開會時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/79.wav",
        "text": "到晚上12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/80.wav",
        "text": "當然對我們來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/81.wav",
        "text": "重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/82.wav",
        "text": "是整個社會都非常關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/83.wav",
        "text": "公益揭弊者保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/84.wav",
        "text": "因為這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/85.wav",
        "text": "從2017年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/86.wav",
        "text": "司改國是會議到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/87.wav",
        "text": "已經整整7年的時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/88.wav",
        "text": "這一次在勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/89.wav",
        "text": "所發生的霸凌事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/90.wav",
        "text": "整個社會上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/91.wav",
        "text": "除了有關霸凌專法的制定以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/92.wav",
        "text": "另外一個呼聲非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/93.wav",
        "text": "強烈的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/94.wav",
        "text": "就是吹哨者保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/95.wav",
        "text": "應該要趕快制定好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/96.wav",
        "text": "讓公部門的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/97.wav",
        "text": "在公部門裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/98.wav",
        "text": "遭受到一些不法侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/99.wav",
        "text": "或是發生不法弊案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/100.wav",
        "text": "站出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/101.wav",
        "text": "吹哨揭舉不法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/102.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個對於臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/103.wav",
        "text": "陽光透明價值的建立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/104.wav",
        "text": "至關重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/105.wav",
        "text": "\n只不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/106.wav",
        "text": "我們雖然提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/107.wav",
        "text": "延會的通知到晚上12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/108.wav",
        "text": "說這個案子要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/109.wav",
        "text": "有跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/110.wav",
        "text": "當場所做的裁決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/111.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團原則上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/112.wav",
        "text": "是尊重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/113.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/114.wav",
        "text": "規矩還是要說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/115.wav",
        "text": "我們上個禮拜五沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/116.wav",
        "text": "願意讓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/117.wav",
        "text": "再來召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/118.wav",
        "text": "如果因為有黨團沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/119.wav",
        "text": "導致這個法案沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/120.wav",
        "text": "我們雖然覺得很遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/121.wav",
        "text": "因為總不能強迫人家一定要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/122.wav",
        "text": "但很遺憾的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/123.wav",
        "text": "我們要特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/124.wav",
        "text": "再跟院長拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/125.wav",
        "text": "接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/126.wav",
        "text": "我們就會按照立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/127.wav",
        "text": "以及議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/128.wav",
        "text": "相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/129.wav",
        "text": "要求院會必須要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/130.wav",
        "text": "吹哨者保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/131.wav",
        "text": "否則的話這樣一拖再拖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/132.wav",
        "text": "不曉得又要再拖多久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/133.wav",
        "text": "這個恐怕不符合整個社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/134.wav",
        "text": "的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/135.wav",
        "text": "針對台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/136.wav",
        "text": "特別重視吹哨者保護法這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/137.wav",
        "text": "跟院長做以上的報告跟請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/138.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/139.wav",
        "text": "我想大家都有很多話要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/140.wav",
        "text": "但鄭部長跟教育部列席官員都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/141.wav",
        "text": "我們先請鄭部長來表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/142.wav",
        "text": "組成課程審議會委員審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/143.wav",
        "text": "簡短扼要報告完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/144.wav",
        "text": "再來討論這樣對教育部官員比較尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/145.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/146.wav",
        "text": "請各位委員傾聽一下我們歡迎鄭部長請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/147.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長謝謝主席還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/148.wav",
        "text": "主要是要跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/149.wav",
        "text": "支持儘速召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/150.wav",
        "text": "中等教育法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/151.wav",
        "text": "105年6月1號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/152.wav",
        "text": "增訂第43條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/153.wav",
        "text": "規定課程審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/154.wav",
        "text": "大會包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/155.wav",
        "text": "政府代表跟非政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/156.wav",
        "text": "代表有36"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/157.wav",
        "text": "位每一個任期是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/158.wav",
        "text": "4年2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/159.wav",
        "text": "今年有17"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/160.wav",
        "text": "任期屆滿因為每一任都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/161.wav",
        "text": "都經過立法院推舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/162.wav",
        "text": "社會公正人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/163.wav",
        "text": "由11位到15位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/164.wav",
        "text": "社會公正人士組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/165.wav",
        "text": "審議會委員的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/166.wav",
        "text": "按政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/167.wav",
        "text": "經所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/168.wav",
        "text": "二分之一通過以後這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/169.wav",
        "text": "課程審議的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/170.wav",
        "text": "今天能夠排進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/171.wav",
        "text": "社會公正人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/172.wav",
        "text": "補足依法是有11"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/173.wav",
        "text": "位到15位過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/174.wav",
        "text": "由立法院推舉15位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/175.wav",
        "text": "社會公正人士組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/176.wav",
        "text": "課程審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/177.wav",
        "text": "而且它必須要過半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/178.wav",
        "text": "所以做這樣的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/179.wav",
        "text": "補充說明以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/180.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/181.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鄭部長跟我們教育部列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/182.wav",
        "text": "很抱歉通知各位來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/183.wav",
        "text": "結果我們院裡面有一些狀況發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/184.wav",
        "text": "請鄭部長和各位教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/185.wav",
        "text": "官員請先離席好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/186.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/187.wav",
        "text": "好再次感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/188.wav",
        "text": "\n剛才教育部部長所報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/189.wav",
        "text": "的部分下一次我們再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/190.wav",
        "text": "討論這部分的時候讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/191.wav",
        "text": "所以也是很有幫助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/192.wav",
        "text": "官員離席之後我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/193.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨黨團表達意見請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/194.wav",
        "text": "好院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/195.wav",
        "text": "把他們的觀點講出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/196.wav",
        "text": "相關的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/197.wav",
        "text": "至於11位到15位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/198.wav",
        "text": "到底要幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/199.wav",
        "text": "當然站在國民黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/200.wav",
        "text": "我想這一屆的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/201.wav",
        "text": "我們要推舉多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/202.wav",
        "text": "按政黨的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/203.wav",
        "text": "如果是15位當然771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/204.wav",
        "text": "如果是14位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/205.wav",
        "text": "就761"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/206.wav",
        "text": "站在本黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/207.wav",
        "text": "如果14位是可行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/208.wav",
        "text": "上去就是依761的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/209.wav",
        "text": "來做推舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/210.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/211.wav",
        "text": "先跟林思銘書記長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/212.wav",
        "text": "這邊暫定就是771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/213.wav",
        "text": "細節到時候我們等下一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/214.wav",
        "text": "正式協商的時候再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/215.wav",
        "text": "討論因為今天算是一個不完整的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/216.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/217.wav",
        "text": "\n另外黃總召我特別報告上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/218.wav",
        "text": "我們開會大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/219.wav",
        "text": "中午只有休息15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/220.wav",
        "text": "從早開到下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/221.wav",
        "text": "一片披薩再繼續開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/222.wav",
        "text": "會議後面就很順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/223.wav",
        "text": "開會所有的議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/224.wav",
        "text": "是根據國民黨民進黨黨團都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/225.wav",
        "text": "簽字了總共十幾個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/226.wav",
        "text": "我們全部審查完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/227.wav",
        "text": "我也不知道怎麼會冒出選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/228.wav",
        "text": "這三個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/229.wav",
        "text": "因為選罷法都已經講好了是下禮拜五再處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/230.wav",
        "text": "這兩天沸沸揚揚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/231.wav",
        "text": "一直在說選罷法什麼什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/232.wav",
        "text": "放水啊什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/233.wav",
        "text": "的我自己都非常的迷糊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/234.wav",
        "text": "尤其那天我記得在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/235.wav",
        "text": "不管是傅崐萁總召王鴻薇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/236.wav",
        "text": "林思銘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/237.wav",
        "text": "都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/238.wav",
        "text": "大家都簽字了十幾個法律案要排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/239.wav",
        "text": "然後在審查的時候林思銘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/240.wav",
        "text": "突然把第十五案抽回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/241.wav",
        "text": "就是證券交易法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/242.wav",
        "text": "最後協調完也尊重林思銘書記長的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/243.wav",
        "text": "就剩下18個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/244.wav",
        "text": "全部審查完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/245.wav",
        "text": "我才喊休息的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/246.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得為什麼會有這麼多謠言滿天飛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/247.wav",
        "text": "我覺得非常非常的奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/248.wav",
        "text": "我怎麼看朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/249.wav",
        "text": "這是立法院各黨之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/250.wav",
        "text": "表達意見最重要的一個平台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/251.wav",
        "text": "所以我們非常尊重朝野協商這個機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/252.wav",
        "text": "但很遺憾今天民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/253.wav",
        "text": "因為有個理由他們不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/254.wav",
        "text": "其實我是覺得滿遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/255.wav",
        "text": "我希望大家各黨團能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/256.wav",
        "text": "珍惜朝野協商這個平台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/257.wav",
        "text": "把自己的意見把自己想要的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/258.wav",
        "text": "把自己的擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/259.wav",
        "text": "或者不接受你都在這裡發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/260.wav",
        "text": "嘛這樣就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/261.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這邊再澄清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/262.wav",
        "text": "我相信林思銘書記長跟王鴻薇副書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/263.wav",
        "text": "可以作證吧那天你們都簽字的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/264.wav",
        "text": "的為什麼會有這些謠言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/265.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/266.wav",
        "text": "\n好請黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/267.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/268.wav",
        "text": "就上個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/269.wav",
        "text": "兩大黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/270.wav",
        "text": "有簽了什麼東西我老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/271.wav",
        "text": "我真的不是很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/272.wav",
        "text": "我唯一有簽的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/273.wav",
        "text": "就是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/274.wav",
        "text": "組織法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/275.wav",
        "text": "我們就簽按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/276.wav",
        "text": "各黨團推派代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/277.wav",
        "text": "因為這個事情其實從委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/278.wav",
        "text": "到院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/279.wav",
        "text": "也爭執過很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/280.wav",
        "text": "各黨團的立場都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/281.wav",
        "text": "所以上禮拜我只有針對原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/282.wav",
        "text": "組織法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/283.wav",
        "text": "各黨團派代表上去把話講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/284.wav",
        "text": "非常地好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/285.wav",
        "text": "只處理哪些法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/286.wav",
        "text": "的這一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/287.wav",
        "text": "我可以很負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/288.wav",
        "text": "跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/289.wav",
        "text": "我根本不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/290.wav",
        "text": "在院長您休息的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/291.wav",
        "text": "請我到後面的休息室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/292.wav",
        "text": "我也很清楚地跟院長表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/293.wav",
        "text": "我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/294.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/295.wav",
        "text": "希望的立場就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/296.wav",
        "text": "我們到底接下來要怎麼運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/297.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/298.wav",
        "text": "有一個清楚的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/299.wav",
        "text": "讓各個黨團都可以知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/300.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/301.wav",
        "text": "每一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/302.wav",
        "text": "不同的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/303.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/304.wav",
        "text": "自己優先法案的順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/305.wav",
        "text": "一定有每一個不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/306.wav",
        "text": "黨團的價值選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/307.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/308.wav",
        "text": "有沒有我們希望排第一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/309.wav",
        "text": "的我可以跟院長負責任的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/310.wav",
        "text": "有當然有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/311.wav",
        "text": "我希望吹哨者保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/312.wav",
        "text": "放第一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/313.wav",
        "text": "但我也知道台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/314.wav",
        "text": "在立法院只有8席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/315.wav",
        "text": "不可能事事順我的意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/316.wav",
        "text": "但重點是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/317.wav",
        "text": "重點是我不會因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/318.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團希望排第一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/319.wav",
        "text": "的沒有辦法排成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/320.wav",
        "text": "去讓其他黨團沒有辦法開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/321.wav",
        "text": "我也不會用暴力的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/322.wav",
        "text": "提他們變更議程的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/323.wav",
        "text": "每一個黨團依照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/324.wav",
        "text": "本來就有權利提變更議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/325.wav",
        "text": "我不會用暴力的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/326.wav",
        "text": "去阻止其他黨團提變更議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/327.wav",
        "text": "我也不會用暴力的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/328.wav",
        "text": "去阻止其他黨團變更議程的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/329.wav",
        "text": "我們當然有我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/330.wav",
        "text": "我們會提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/331.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠得到其他人的認可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/332.wav",
        "text": "跟同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/333.wav",
        "text": "那我們覺得非常的好也很感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/334.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有辦法順我們的意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/335.wav",
        "text": "那也就沒有辦法順我們的意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/336.wav",
        "text": "了因為畢竟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/337.wav",
        "text": "我們可以藉由我們優先法案的順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/338.wav",
        "text": "去彰顯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/339.wav",
        "text": "我們政黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/340.wav",
        "text": "我們政黨的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/341.wav",
        "text": "但我沒有辦法強迫其他黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/342.wav",
        "text": "一定要按照我們的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/343.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/344.wav",
        "text": "我其實也很負責任的跟院長說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/345.wav",
        "text": "這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/346.wav",
        "text": "實際上的運作來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/347.wav",
        "text": "如果每一次都要搞到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/348.wav",
        "text": "變成是叢林法則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/349.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這絕對不是全體國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/350.wav",
        "text": "所樂見的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/351.wav",
        "text": "立委不僅要問政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/352.wav",
        "text": "要監督行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/353.wav",
        "text": "但如果搞到立委還要去練身體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/354.wav",
        "text": "這可能就toomuch了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/355.wav",
        "text": "我其實有時候看我們院內這麼多同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/356.wav",
        "text": "特別是年輕的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/357.wav",
        "text": "大家這麼辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/358.wav",
        "text": "大家有不同的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/359.wav",
        "text": "每一個政黨依照自己的政策立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/360.wav",
        "text": "對社會負責嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/361.wav",
        "text": "如果今天我們支持的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/362.wav",
        "text": "是臺灣社會的民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/363.wav",
        "text": "都沒有辦法接受的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/364.wav",
        "text": "那一定會反映在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/365.wav",
        "text": "我自己的政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/366.wav",
        "text": "會遭受到社會輿論的批判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/367.wav",
        "text": "民主政治本來就是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/368.wav",
        "text": "民主政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/369.wav",
        "text": "我們希望的是透過民主審議的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/370.wav",
        "text": "而不是比拳頭的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/371.wav",
        "text": "否則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/372.wav",
        "text": "將心比心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/373.wav",
        "text": "站在院長您的位子上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/374.wav",
        "text": "我也會覺得您很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/375.wav",
        "text": "主持一個簡單的會議程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/376.wav",
        "text": "都要搞到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/377.wav",
        "text": "很大的人身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/378.wav",
        "text": "安全風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/379.wav",
        "text": "這不是一個正常的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/380.wav",
        "text": "今天臺灣的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/381.wav",
        "text": "你也可以把它搞得很安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/382.wav",
        "text": "但未必很好看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/383.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫很安全卻未必很好看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/384.wav",
        "text": "我們就在主席臺上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/385.wav",
        "text": "架防護措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/386.wav",
        "text": "但是我相信站在您的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/387.wav",
        "text": "您一定不樂見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/388.wav",
        "text": "您是一個堂堂的國會議長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/389.wav",
        "text": "被鎖在那個防護措施裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/390.wav",
        "text": "換另外一個角度講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/391.wav",
        "text": "我們到底要透過什麼樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/392.wav",
        "text": "才有辦法好好開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/393.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/394.wav",
        "text": "您作為國會議長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/395.wav",
        "text": "有您的難處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/396.wav",
        "text": "您也不希望每次都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/397.wav",
        "text": "槍林彈雨當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/398.wav",
        "text": "主持會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/399.wav",
        "text": "我還是要退一步講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/400.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/401.wav",
        "text": "揭弊者保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/402.wav",
        "text": "我必須再重申一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/403.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/404.wav",
        "text": "從我們的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/405.wav",
        "text": "來看該踐行的法定程序已經踐行完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/406.wav",
        "text": "我們在委員會裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/407.wav",
        "text": "有詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/408.wav",
        "text": "有公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/409.wav",
        "text": "有大體討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/410.wav",
        "text": "有逐條討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/411.wav",
        "text": "也進了協商冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/412.wav",
        "text": "委員會也召集過黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/413.wav",
        "text": "但沒有辦法獲致共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/414.wav",
        "text": "所以對台灣民眾黨黨團來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/415.wav",
        "text": "我們最卑微的要求就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/416.wav",
        "text": "希望按照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/417.wav",
        "text": "讓這個法案有到院會處理的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/418.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/419.wav",
        "text": "當院長您決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/420.wav",
        "text": "再來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/421.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得很驚訝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/422.wav",
        "text": "但我也尊重院長的裁決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/423.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/424.wav",
        "text": "我今天來這邊協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/425.wav",
        "text": "我特別要講這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/426.wav",
        "text": "就不能夠這樣子一拖再拖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/427.wav",
        "text": "該處理的時候就應該要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/428.wav",
        "text": "這是我們跟院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/429.wav",
        "text": "所做的報告跟請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/430.wav",
        "text": "沒有協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/431.wav",
        "text": "現在表達好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/432.wav",
        "text": "我等一下會過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/433.wav",
        "text": "你們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/434.wav",
        "text": "是封鎖國會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/435.wav",
        "text": "現在在國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/436.wav",
        "text": "封鎖國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/437.wav",
        "text": "讓立委進會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/438.wav",
        "text": "行你的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/439.wav",
        "text": "今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/440.wav",
        "text": "今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/441.wav",
        "text": "我們等候院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/442.wav",
        "text": "一整個早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/443.wav",
        "text": "院長神隱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/444.wav",
        "text": "院長應當來善後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/445.wav",
        "text": "有關今天選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/446.wav",
        "text": "封閉國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/447.wav",
        "text": "的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/448.wav",
        "text": "那你什麼時候進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/449.wav",
        "text": "那我們就在院長室等候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/450.wav",
        "text": "您回來善後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/451.wav",
        "text": "你們去等啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/452.wav",
        "text": "要開會啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/453.wav",
        "text": "這個有開會時間的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/454.wav",
        "text": "有開會時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/455.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/456.wav",
        "text": "我們在內政委員會捍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/457.wav",
        "text": "捍衛人民罷免權絕不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/458.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/459.wav",
        "text": "閉門開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/460.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/461.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/462.wav",
        "text": "這種狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/463.wav",
        "text": "鎖門開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/464.wav",
        "text": "民主之恥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/465.wav",
        "text": "民主之恥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/466.wav",
        "text": "民主之恥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/467.wav",
        "text": "韓院長要解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/468.wav",
        "text": "不要來鬧場趕快去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/469.wav",
        "text": "不要來這邊鬧場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/470.wav",
        "text": "還有什麼好談的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/471.wav",
        "text": "我們等候您已經6個小時了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/472.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/473.wav",
        "text": "這個是有開會有排議場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/474.wav",
        "text": "喔請按照議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/475.wav",
        "text": "早上的內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/476.wav",
        "text": "也是有正式的開會議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/477.wav",
        "text": "你們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/478.wav",
        "text": "把會議搞得這樣閉門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/479.wav",
        "text": "擋人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/480.wav",
        "text": "你們這種吳造謠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/481.wav",
        "text": "今天誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/482.wav",
        "text": "霸占主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/483.wav",
        "text": "我們在門外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/484.wav",
        "text": "等院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/485.wav",
        "text": "15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/486.wav",
        "text": "今天是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/487.wav",
        "text": "我們繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/488.wav",
        "text": "你們鎖大門可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/489.wav",
        "text": "凡事都有第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/490.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/491.wav",
        "text": "啦剛剛好而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/492.wav",
        "text": "好啦我們趕快開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/493.wav",
        "text": "他們不開來鬧場我們趕快開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/494.wav",
        "text": "我們趕快把它開完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/495.wav",
        "text": "上一次我們開會通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/496.wav",
        "text": "在議場的3樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/497.wav",
        "text": "然後民進黨到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/498.wav",
        "text": "那天是藍軍沒有到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/499.wav",
        "text": "所以我一定請民進黨發言發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/500.wav",
        "text": "散會今天是反過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/501.wav",
        "text": "民進黨來不參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/502.wav",
        "text": "國民黨跟台灣民眾黨都到了現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/503.wav",
        "text": "所以你們發言完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/504.wav",
        "text": "以後我們也是會散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/505.wav",
        "text": "所以請問各位委員還有誰要表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/506.wav",
        "text": "了綜合性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/507.wav",
        "text": "我們就一案一案把它討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/508.wav",
        "text": "要放棄他們協商的權利我們沒有辦法啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/509.wav",
        "text": "財政委員會已經開過很多次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/510.wav",
        "text": "讓他們充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/511.wav",
        "text": "財政委員會已經開過很多次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/512.wav",
        "text": "3分鐘審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/513.wav",
        "text": "3分鐘送出委員會的財劃法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/514.wav",
        "text": "哪裡有開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/515.wav",
        "text": "好啦好啦我們開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/516.wav",
        "text": "開會協商好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/517.wav",
        "text": "等一下到那邊你們來表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/518.wav",
        "text": "正式發函"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/519.wav",
        "text": "今天你們臨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/520.wav",
        "text": "變更議程連協商的議程都要搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/521.wav",
        "text": "偷襲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/522.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的協商這樣子的臨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/523.wav",
        "text": "不要一直造謠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/524.wav",
        "text": "請優先來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/525.wav",
        "text": "今天上午選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/526.wav",
        "text": "的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/527.wav",
        "text": "沒有比國會創下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/528.wav",
        "text": "這種前所未有的民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/529.wav",
        "text": "要出面解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/530.wav",
        "text": "不是國民黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/531.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/532.wav",
        "text": "立法院的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/533.wav",
        "text": "要議事中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/534.wav",
        "text": "依立法院職權行使法解決爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/535.wav",
        "text": "這是院長的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/536.wav",
        "text": "他們現在照著這個議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/537.wav",
        "text": "發表15分鐘左右的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/538.wav",
        "text": "談話讓這個議程算數嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/539.wav",
        "text": "臨時變更議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/540.wav",
        "text": "算數嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/541.wav",
        "text": "臨時變更議程算數嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/542.wav",
        "text": "就是建議說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/543.wav",
        "text": "因為財劃法已經通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/544.wav",
        "text": "過看起來行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/545.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照議事規則往下處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/546.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣送出委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/547.wav",
        "text": "韓院長你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/548.wav",
        "text": "縱容這樣的立法院嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/549.wav",
        "text": "我說過這邊開15分鐘以後我會宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/550.wav",
        "text": "休息到那邊去你們在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/551.wav",
        "text": "可以自由表達你現在讓他們表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/552.wav",
        "text": "他們如期通知2點全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/553.wav",
        "text": "坐在這裡我一定要讓他們講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/554.wav",
        "text": "早上我們在那裡排隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/555.wav",
        "text": "等開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/556.wav",
        "text": "連進入會場的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/557.wav",
        "text": "都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/558.wav",
        "text": "你尊重他們講話的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/559.wav",
        "text": "那我們講話的權利在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/560.wav",
        "text": "尊重他們講話的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/561.wav",
        "text": "我們連進入會場的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/562.wav",
        "text": "都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/563.wav",
        "text": "我們的權利在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/564.wav",
        "text": "人民的權利在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/565.wav",
        "text": "人民的權利在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/566.wav",
        "text": "我們今天上午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/567.wav",
        "text": "連進入會議室的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/568.wav",
        "text": "都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/569.wav",
        "text": "院長您同意這樣子的會議嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/570.wav",
        "text": "你已經講好多次你等一下還會再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/571.wav",
        "text": "因為你不聽啊你聽不懂啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/572.wav",
        "text": "你不敢處理啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/573.wav",
        "text": "15分鐘以後會過去我有講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/574.wav",
        "text": "第95條的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/575.wav",
        "text": "他們準時來就可以發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/576.wav",
        "text": "我們準時來就不能發言喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/577.wav",
        "text": "10月21日審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/578.wav",
        "text": "完竣24這是什麼立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/579.wav",
        "text": "毀憲亂政的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/580.wav",
        "text": "用這種過水的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/581.wav",
        "text": "用這種過水的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/582.wav",
        "text": "韓國瑜院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/583.wav",
        "text": "你是哪一黨的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/584.wav",
        "text": "要再當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/585.wav",
        "text": "歷史的罪人嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/586.wav",
        "text": "翁曉玲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/587.wav",
        "text": "法庭是什麼都吳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/588.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/589.wav",
        "text": "我們早上的會議權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16373/590.wav",
        "text": "有被尊重嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/0.wav",
        "text": "我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/1.wav",
        "text": "商進行前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/2.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員接著介紹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/3.wav",
        "text": "接著介紹機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/4.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們是在野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/5.wav",
        "text": "透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/6.wav",
        "text": "在有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/7.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/8.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/9.wav",
        "text": "論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/10.wav",
        "text": "要先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/11.wav",
        "text": "能讓台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/12.wav",
        "text": "黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/13.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/14.wav",
        "text": "版本出來討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/15.wav",
        "text": "沒有不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/16.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法做出共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16362/17.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/0.wav",
        "text": "我們今天繼續針對113年度中央政府總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1.wav",
        "text": "案附屬單位預算經濟委員會營業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2.wav",
        "text": "分共保留的8個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/3.wav",
        "text": "向各位介紹一下行政院陳主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/4.wav",
        "text": "經濟部郭部長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/5.wav",
        "text": "台糖的吳董事長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/6.wav",
        "text": "中油的方董事長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/7.wav",
        "text": "台電的曾董事長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/8.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/9.wav",
        "text": "先進行台糖的部分目前有第4案跟第5案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/10.wav",
        "text": "科目是相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/11.wav",
        "text": "的國民黨團廖先翔委員提議改減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/12.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團黃國昌總召是凍結50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/13.wav",
        "text": "案跟第5案兩案請問各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/14.wav",
        "text": "能不能提出一些不同的意見跟看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/15.wav",
        "text": "好請黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/16.wav",
        "text": "您提的是減列50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/17.wav",
        "text": "剛剛院長詢問的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/18.wav",
        "text": "可不可以提出不同的意見跟看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/19.wav",
        "text": "其實我們沒有什麼不同的意見跟看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/20.wav",
        "text": "我們的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/21.wav",
        "text": "針對台糖的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/22.wav",
        "text": "賤賣台糖的資產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/23.wav",
        "text": "造成台糖損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/24.wav",
        "text": "本金的部分應該是一億100多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/25.wav",
        "text": "結果到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/26.wav",
        "text": "追討的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/27.wav",
        "text": "慘不忍睹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/28.wav",
        "text": "這些錢都是納稅人的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/29.wav",
        "text": "不討回來怎麼可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/30.wav",
        "text": "台糖過去這幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/31.wav",
        "text": "到底採取了什麼樣子的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/32.wav",
        "text": "我完全看不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/33.wav",
        "text": "是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/34.wav",
        "text": "他是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/35.wav",
        "text": "因為他是吳乃仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/36.wav",
        "text": "台糖放水嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/37.wav",
        "text": "不敢去要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/38.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/39.wav",
        "text": "賤賣國家的資產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/40.wav",
        "text": "不用負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/41.wav",
        "text": "錢可以不用吐出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/42.wav",
        "text": "是因為吳乃仁的身分比較特殊嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/43.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/44.wav",
        "text": "我要拜託我們的經濟部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/45.wav",
        "text": "以及台糖的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/46.wav",
        "text": "我們在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/47.wav",
        "text": "討論一些基本上的事實狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/48.wav",
        "text": "我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/49.wav",
        "text": "大家是老老實實地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/50.wav",
        "text": "把實際的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/51.wav",
        "text": "給講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/52.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/53.wav",
        "text": "在這邊回答問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/54.wav",
        "text": "要老老實實地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/55.wav",
        "text": "把實際的狀況給講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/56.wav",
        "text": "上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/57.wav",
        "text": "11月27號星期三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/58.wav",
        "text": "下午5點5分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/59.wav",
        "text": "我們在這邊所召開的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/60.wav",
        "text": "針對台糖的這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/61.wav",
        "text": "我請教了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/62.wav",
        "text": "你們當初台糖的同仁說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/63.wav",
        "text": "我們台糖公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/64.wav",
        "text": "總共賠償的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/65.wav",
        "text": "是1億1,796萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/66.wav",
        "text": "如果加計利息到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/67.wav",
        "text": "是一億兩千三百零多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/68.wav",
        "text": "我坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/69.wav",
        "text": "我光聽這個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/70.wav",
        "text": "就不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/71.wav",
        "text": "因為我印象裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/72.wav",
        "text": "台糖到目前追討回來的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/73.wav",
        "text": "連利息都不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/74.wav",
        "text": "不要說本金追討多少回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/75.wav",
        "text": "連cover利息都不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/76.wav",
        "text": "但是你們那天卻說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/77.wav",
        "text": "賠償金額是1億1,796萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/78.wav",
        "text": "加計利息到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/79.wav",
        "text": "是1億2,300萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/80.wav",
        "text": "這是當天黨團協商你們所講的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/81.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛在唸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/82.wav",
        "text": "立法院公報上面的記載"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/83.wav",
        "text": "所以我那天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/84.wav",
        "text": "才進一步請教你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/85.wav",
        "text": "把你們實際上面求償的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/86.wav",
        "text": "白紙黑字寫來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/87.wav",
        "text": "有個清楚的憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/88.wav",
        "text": "你們事後白紙黑字寫來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/89.wav",
        "text": "有個清楚的憑證以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/90.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/91.wav",
        "text": "實際上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/92.wav",
        "text": "到11月30號為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/93.wav",
        "text": "還沒有受償的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/94.wav",
        "text": "不是一億兩千多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/95.wav",
        "text": "是1億7,146萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/96.wav",
        "text": "1,806元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/97.wav",
        "text": "我再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/98.wav",
        "text": "到11月30號為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/99.wav",
        "text": "還沒有受償的金額是1億7,146萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/100.wav",
        "text": "1,806元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/101.wav",
        "text": "所以我說的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/102.wav",
        "text": "你們到目前為止追討回來的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/103.wav",
        "text": "連利息都不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/104.wav",
        "text": "以上補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/105.wav",
        "text": "\n這個是要跟院長特別說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/106.wav",
        "text": "因為我們當初坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/107.wav",
        "text": "針對這個事情有協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/108.wav",
        "text": "那一天台糖應該是代理董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/109.wav",
        "text": "您是新的董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/110.wav",
        "text": "那也不關新的董事長的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/111.wav",
        "text": "但機關要有一個機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/112.wav",
        "text": "基本的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/113.wav",
        "text": "坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/114.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論問題處理問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/115.wav",
        "text": "回答問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/116.wav",
        "text": "就還是請本於事實嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/117.wav",
        "text": "那一天我聽這個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/118.wav",
        "text": "所以我才請你們事後拿書面來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/119.wav",
        "text": "看了果然沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/120.wav",
        "text": "現在是越欠越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/121.wav",
        "text": "現在是1億7,146萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/122.wav",
        "text": "連利息都還沒有還完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/123.wav",
        "text": "這個是我這次提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/124.wav",
        "text": "主要的理由跟內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/125.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/126.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨團廖先翔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/127.wav",
        "text": "委員有提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/128.wav",
        "text": "我想先請台糖說明之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/129.wav",
        "text": "再請林思銘書記長發言好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/130.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/131.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃委員的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/132.wav",
        "text": "確實像黃委員所談的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/133.wav",
        "text": "因為有一個項目是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/134.wav",
        "text": "未償利息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/135.wav",
        "text": "有4,821萬5,735元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/136.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/137.wav",
        "text": "確實就像黃委員所提的那個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/138.wav",
        "text": "可能上次沒有把這個放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/139.wav",
        "text": "跟黃委員做個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/140.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/141.wav",
        "text": "好國民黨的林思銘書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/142.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/143.wav",
        "text": "廖先翔委員這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/144.wav",
        "text": "對於我們提案的廖先翔委員減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/145.wav",
        "text": "減列100萬有跟他達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/146.wav",
        "text": "所以如果說台糖同意減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/147.wav",
        "text": "這個案子我們就不用表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/148.wav",
        "text": "現在就看台糖他們的態度怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/149.wav",
        "text": "同意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/150.wav",
        "text": "1案同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/151.wav",
        "text": "就減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/152.wav",
        "text": "我現在是講談廖先翔委員這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/153.wav",
        "text": "我們跟民眾黨是脫鉤的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/154.wav",
        "text": "所以我先把廖先翔委員的這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/155.wav",
        "text": "跟院長來做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/156.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/157.wav",
        "text": "這兩個案子都是同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/158.wav",
        "text": "嘛從國民黨開始談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/159.wav",
        "text": "國民黨同意減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/160.wav",
        "text": "台糖同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/161.wav",
        "text": "這個案子就剩下黃國昌委員的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/162.wav",
        "text": "這些錢早就用掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/163.wav",
        "text": "何來凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/164.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法凍結了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/165.wav",
        "text": "已經用掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/166.wav",
        "text": "我們從法律層面來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/167.wav",
        "text": "剛才黃國昌委員在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/168.wav",
        "text": "那個案子後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/169.wav",
        "text": "經過再審判9個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/170.wav",
        "text": "法律人都回到法律問題來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/171.wav",
        "text": "啦不管那個案子是弊案與否"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/172.wav",
        "text": "它已經判刑就是照法律案來判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/173.wav",
        "text": "了那代表就是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/174.wav",
        "text": "法律上這樣認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/175.wav",
        "text": "當然刑事的部分就是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/176.wav",
        "text": "嘛民事的部分當然要追索"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/177.wav",
        "text": "這很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/178.wav",
        "text": "啊如果台糖已經窮盡可能的力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/179.wav",
        "text": "去查封拍賣等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/180.wav",
        "text": "都去處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/181.wav",
        "text": "包括吳乃仁的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/182.wav",
        "text": "他銀行裡面的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/183.wav",
        "text": "還有股票等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/184.wav",
        "text": "土地也把它拍賣掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/185.wav",
        "text": "了拿到338萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/186.wav",
        "text": "嘛所有吳乃仁的財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/187.wav",
        "text": "全部都照國家的法令去處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/188.wav",
        "text": "所以吳乃仁的部分也就如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/189.wav",
        "text": "至於其他的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/190.wav",
        "text": "最源頭是春龍公司才對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/191.wav",
        "text": "當然我想他們應該脫產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/192.wav",
        "text": "了劉柏誠的部分也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/193.wav",
        "text": "受償3001百多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/194.wav",
        "text": "加上利息也不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/195.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/196.wav",
        "text": "照法律的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/197.wav",
        "text": "就可以這樣做嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/198.wav",
        "text": "難道是台糖要拿出來賠嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/199.wav",
        "text": "我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/200.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員你現在拿出這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/201.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼更好的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/202.wav",
        "text": "難道董事長拿出來賠嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/203.wav",
        "text": "經濟部賠嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/204.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/205.wav",
        "text": "該關抓去關嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/206.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁也去關啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/207.wav",
        "text": "刑民事就是對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/208.wav",
        "text": "犯罪當事人的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/209.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/210.wav",
        "text": "即便黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/211.wav",
        "text": "很堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/212.wav",
        "text": "你就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/213.wav",
        "text": "凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/214.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/215.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請台糖吳董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/216.wav",
        "text": "說明現在12月11號你們已經執行多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/217.wav",
        "text": "了讓我們黨團幹部了解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/218.wav",
        "text": "報告主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/219.wav",
        "text": "113"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/220.wav",
        "text": "年度預估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/221.wav",
        "text": "整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/222.wav",
        "text": "投資性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/223.wav",
        "text": "已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/224.wav",
        "text": "18億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/225.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/226.wav",
        "text": "已經執行\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/227.wav",
        "text": "專業服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/228.wav",
        "text": "你看清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/229.wav",
        "text": ",500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/230.wav",
        "text": "然後已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/231.wav",
        "text": "預計到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/232.wav",
        "text": "要增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/233.wav",
        "text": "1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/234.wav",
        "text": "13萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/235.wav",
        "text": "9,000元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/236.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/237.wav",
        "text": "我們不動產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/238.wav",
        "text": "增加了8億7"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/239.wav",
        "text": ",163萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/240.wav",
        "text": "增加了20.17%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/241.wav",
        "text": "所以要繳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/242.wav",
        "text": "土地稅給政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/243.wav",
        "text": "年度的預算增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/244.wav",
        "text": "萬7,000元要交給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/245.wav",
        "text": "政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/246.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們目前執行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/247.wav",
        "text": "狀況謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/248.wav",
        "text": "總召的指教大概說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/249.wav",
        "text": "柯總召說得沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/250.wav",
        "text": "錢早就用掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/251.wav",
        "text": "啊你要怎麼凍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/252.wav",
        "text": "說得非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/253.wav",
        "text": "有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/254.wav",
        "text": "嘛但問題是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/255.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/256.wav",
        "text": "有何意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/257.wav",
        "text": "錢早就用掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/258.wav",
        "text": "如果是這種態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/259.wav",
        "text": "那我們今天坐在這邊審預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/260.wav",
        "text": "是在審辛酸的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/261.wav",
        "text": "錢早就用掉看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/262.wav",
        "text": "你凍的到還是凍不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/263.wav",
        "text": "有一個最根本的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/264.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在這邊審預算是在審什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/265.wav",
        "text": "我上次就講過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/266.wav",
        "text": "這是上一屆國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/267.wav",
        "text": "該處理而沒有處理的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/268.wav",
        "text": "我們負責善後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/269.wav",
        "text": "所以我們看這個內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/270.wav",
        "text": "就不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/271.wav",
        "text": "這個錢就應該要討回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/272.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/273.wav",
        "text": "柯總召也沒講錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/274.wav",
        "text": "他的確刑事判決確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/275.wav",
        "text": "有罪判決確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/276.wav",
        "text": "這個大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/277.wav",
        "text": "但民事責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/278.wav",
        "text": "跟刑事責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/279.wav",
        "text": "是兩回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/280.wav",
        "text": "民事損害賠償的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/281.wav",
        "text": "不會因為你坐過牢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/282.wav",
        "text": "就因此而免除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/283.wav",
        "text": "該要的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/284.wav",
        "text": "還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/285.wav",
        "text": "要要回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/286.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個部分剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/287.wav",
        "text": "剛柯總召說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/288.wav",
        "text": "難不成要董事長拿出來賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/289.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/290.wav",
        "text": "在我的提案內容裡面從來沒有要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/291.wav",
        "text": "台糖公司的董事長拿出來賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/292.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/293.wav",
        "text": "我要求的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/294.wav",
        "text": "我要求的是你們到底要怎麼樣積極求償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/295.wav",
        "text": "要有計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/296.wav",
        "text": "啊不能這樣子消極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/297.wav",
        "text": "我說的也不是沒有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/298.wav",
        "text": "啊我覺得台糖求償非常的消極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/299.wav",
        "text": "只說查無財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/300.wav",
        "text": "那請問台糖到底做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/301.wav",
        "text": "第一個他們有向執行處聲請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/302.wav",
        "text": "訊問債務人的程序嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/303.wav",
        "text": "這個是在強制執行法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/304.wav",
        "text": "有規定的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/305.wav",
        "text": "這都是法定債權人依照強制執行法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/306.wav",
        "text": "可以採取要求民事執行處的聲請手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/307.wav",
        "text": "要求債務人說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/308.wav",
        "text": "就可以請債務人好好說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/309.wav",
        "text": "他是不是顯有履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/310.wav",
        "text": "義務之可能故不履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/311.wav",
        "text": "這個也是強制執行法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/312.wav",
        "text": "明定的事由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/313.wav",
        "text": "當債務人顯有履行義務之可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/314.wav",
        "text": "故不履行在強制執行法上的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/315.wav",
        "text": "是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/316.wav",
        "text": "我相信台糖花了這麼多錢請了大律師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/317.wav",
        "text": "不會這麼難理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/318.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/319.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁是顯有履行之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/320.wav",
        "text": "可能故不履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/321.wav",
        "text": "他跟國家說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/322.wav",
        "text": "我就沒錢啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/323.wav",
        "text": "但問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/324.wav",
        "text": "我們光從媒體上面的報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/325.wav",
        "text": "看起來就不是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/326.wav",
        "text": "啊可以找民進黨的立委去club"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/327.wav",
        "text": "聊宇宙大爆炸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/328.wav",
        "text": "然後沒有錢還國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/329.wav",
        "text": "這到底是一個什麼樣的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/330.wav",
        "text": "所有人都非常困惑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/331.wav",
        "text": "我也很困惑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/332.wav",
        "text": "啊可以在外面吃香喝辣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/333.wav",
        "text": "過得爽歪歪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/334.wav",
        "text": "然後國家的錢不用賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/335.wav",
        "text": "就已經強制執行沒結果了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/336.wav",
        "text": "送一張債權憑證給你回家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/337.wav",
        "text": "貼在牆壁上還不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/338.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法接受這樣的態度跟行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/339.wav",
        "text": "所以我提出這樣的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/340.wav",
        "text": "\n至於柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/341.wav",
        "text": "可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/342.wav",
        "text": "那就來表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/343.wav",
        "text": "完全按照柯總召的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/344.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤幹事長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/345.wav",
        "text": "我想我們現在在討論的這個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/346.wav",
        "text": "打岔一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/347.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長講完話我就要做裁決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/348.wav",
        "text": "了再請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/349.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在審議預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/350.wav",
        "text": "處理的是台糖預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/351.wav",
        "text": "有關於營業成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/352.wav",
        "text": "項下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/353.wav",
        "text": "對於投資不動產費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/354.wav",
        "text": "衍生的各項專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/355.wav",
        "text": "服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/356.wav",
        "text": "的處理可以用在哪些部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/357.wav",
        "text": "台糖有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/358.wav",
        "text": "的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/359.wav",
        "text": "有的要做不同的處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/360.wav",
        "text": "有的可能要有開發的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/361.wav",
        "text": "有非常多的專業服務要進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/362.wav",
        "text": "要請精算師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/363.wav",
        "text": "要請工程專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/364.wav",
        "text": "或者是各類的檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/365.wav",
        "text": "這些都是委外去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/366.wav",
        "text": "進行的專業服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/367.wav",
        "text": "我先講預算是這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/368.wav",
        "text": "\n黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/369.wav",
        "text": "是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/370.wav",
        "text": "某一個司法個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/371.wav",
        "text": "來討論這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/372.wav",
        "text": "因為用的就是這一筆的律師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/373.wav",
        "text": "費用當然可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/374.wav",
        "text": "只是從我的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/375.wav",
        "text": "跟剛剛聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/376.wav",
        "text": "從台糖的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/377.wav",
        "text": "中台糖從頭到尾沒有不追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/378.wav",
        "text": "這筆錢嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/379.wav",
        "text": "台糖的立場也是很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/380.wav",
        "text": "依據司法的判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/381.wav",
        "text": "該追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/382.wav",
        "text": "就應當追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/383.wav",
        "text": "所以台糖沒有不追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/384.wav",
        "text": "這筆錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/385.wav",
        "text": "現在進入追討的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/386.wav",
        "text": "了我想我們在場的協商代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/387.wav",
        "text": "有很多的法律人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/388.wav",
        "text": "不只黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/389.wav",
        "text": "還有我們蔡易餘律師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/390.wav",
        "text": "林思銘律師都在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/391.wav",
        "text": "所以依據法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/392.wav",
        "text": "對於司法個案衍生的民事賠償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/393.wav",
        "text": "它就可以依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/394.wav",
        "text": "強制執行法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/395.wav",
        "text": "去做後續的執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/396.wav",
        "text": "所以讓法律去進行它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/397.wav",
        "text": "程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/398.wav",
        "text": "有委員會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/399.wav",
        "text": "討得不夠快不夠多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/400.wav",
        "text": "但是我要說這就是法律的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/401.wav",
        "text": "也不是今天台糖的董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/402.wav",
        "text": "或是接任的董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/403.wav",
        "text": "他個人就可以決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/404.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/405.wav",
        "text": "這都有法律的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/406.wav",
        "text": "因為台糖有很多的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/407.wav",
        "text": "都會有後續的處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/408.wav",
        "text": "或是開發的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/409.wav",
        "text": "這一筆專業服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/410.wav",
        "text": "我是希望不要傷及無辜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/411.wav",
        "text": "他所主張的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/412.wav",
        "text": "台糖對於每一筆土地未來的處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/413.wav",
        "text": "都要非常的精確精算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/414.wav",
        "text": "都不要再發生這樣子的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/415.wav",
        "text": "那當然就要支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/416.wav",
        "text": "讓台糖的專業服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/417.wav",
        "text": "能夠做得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/418.wav",
        "text": "\n所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/419.wav",
        "text": "講回來預算的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/420.wav",
        "text": "我認為比較合宜的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/421.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛國民黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/422.wav",
        "text": "減列100萬台糖覺得可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/423.wav",
        "text": "好OK成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/424.wav",
        "text": "50%的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/425.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠就你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/426.wav",
        "text": "在這個項下已經支出的之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/427.wav",
        "text": "剩下還沒有支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/428.wav",
        "text": "沒有執行的預算數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/429.wav",
        "text": "來做多少比例的凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/430.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/431.wav",
        "text": "才是正辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/432.wav",
        "text": "我講得非常理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/433.wav",
        "text": "法律有法律的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/434.wav",
        "text": "司法個案尊重司法的判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/435.wav",
        "text": "該追討有強制執行法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/436.wav",
        "text": "的相關規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/437.wav",
        "text": "就預算論預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/438.wav",
        "text": "這筆項下如果支用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/439.wav",
        "text": "我們就來討論既然沒有執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/440.wav",
        "text": "年底也到了再來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/441.wav",
        "text": "凍結比例的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/442.wav",
        "text": "稍微等一下柯總召先舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/443.wav",
        "text": "結束之後我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/444.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨二輪發言這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/445.wav",
        "text": "──我們先請國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/446.wav",
        "text": "二輪發言兩輪發言過好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/447.wav",
        "text": "我知道馬上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/448.wav",
        "text": "傅總召你稍等請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/449.wav",
        "text": "我就先講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/450.wav",
        "text": "我想黃委員也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/451.wav",
        "text": "法律專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/452.wav",
        "text": "這方面大家也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/453.wav",
        "text": "懷疑你的專業能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/454.wav",
        "text": "你剛才說顯有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/455.wav",
        "text": "或是民事執行的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/456.wav",
        "text": "這些民事的個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/457.wav",
        "text": "拿來這裡做一個討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/458.wav",
        "text": "實質上是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/459.wav",
        "text": "們會用盡所有方法去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/460.wav",
        "text": "他們也有會計師律師總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/461.wav",
        "text": "所以台糖非常嚴謹在處理這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/462.wav",
        "text": "公家機關不會開玩笑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/463.wav",
        "text": "一個民事的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/464.wav",
        "text": "來這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/465.wav",
        "text": "我覺得也不需要了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/466.wav",
        "text": "了今天是在立法院處理預算的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/467.wav",
        "text": "應面對實際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/468.wav",
        "text": "剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/469.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員點出一個問題台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/470.wav",
        "text": "台糖現在這筆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/471.wav",
        "text": "還沒執行的有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/472.wav",
        "text": "嘛未執行數可能不到3,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/473.wav",
        "text": "照程序去表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/474.wav",
        "text": "表決的時候剩下這一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/475.wav",
        "text": "就砍一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/476.wav",
        "text": "當然就照程序處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/477.wav",
        "text": "現在還有任何的方法嗎我不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/478.wav",
        "text": "以後民間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/479.wav",
        "text": "來這邊喬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/480.wav",
        "text": "我剛才就講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/481.wav",
        "text": "這不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/482.wav",
        "text": "犯罪主體是誰就誰去賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/483.wav",
        "text": "我們這個東西明確一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/484.wav",
        "text": "不宜再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/485.wav",
        "text": "了講太多也沒有什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/486.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/487.wav",
        "text": "現在討論起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/488.wav",
        "text": "只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/489.wav",
        "text": "根本上的問題要解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/490.wav",
        "text": "也就是說為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/491.wav",
        "text": "我們現在還在審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/492.wav",
        "text": "113年的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/493.wav",
        "text": "這是很可笑的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/494.wav",
        "text": "錢都已經用掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/495.wav",
        "text": "我們現在再來審查這個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/496.wav",
        "text": "當然這是上一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/497.wav",
        "text": "的問題但為什麼留給這一屆來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/498.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/499.wav",
        "text": "第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/500.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是應該做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/501.wav",
        "text": "我們現在碰到的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/502.wav",
        "text": "明年就不要讓類似的情況再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/503.wav",
        "text": "在第一季結束以後第二季就開始審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/504.wav",
        "text": "國營事業預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/505.wav",
        "text": "而且這樣比較有立即性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/506.wav",
        "text": "第一季怎麼執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/507.wav",
        "text": "是不是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/508.wav",
        "text": "其實那時候的預算跟決算都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/509.wav",
        "text": "已經同步在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/510.wav",
        "text": "立法院的效率也會更加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/511.wav",
        "text": "今天黃國昌黃總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/512.wav",
        "text": "當然有權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/513.wav",
        "text": "畢竟代表了民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/514.wav",
        "text": "所以這個追償是不是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/515.wav",
        "text": "盡責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/516.wav",
        "text": "也就是公務員有沒有盡責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/517.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會看到夜夜笙歌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/518.wav",
        "text": "當然這也是一個大哉問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/519.wav",
        "text": "所以對這問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/520.wav",
        "text": "但我還是很尊重各黨團所表達的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/521.wav",
        "text": "我們該怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/522.wav",
        "text": "就怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/523.wav",
        "text": "希望明年我們不會在同樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/524.wav",
        "text": "上重蹈覆轍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/525.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/526.wav",
        "text": "謝謝傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/527.wav",
        "text": "特別提醒我們明年度審預算的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/528.wav",
        "text": "\n請黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/529.wav",
        "text": "我先拜託也跟院長請示一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/530.wav",
        "text": "我們發言的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/531.wav",
        "text": "是不是跟以前一樣就黨團輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/532.wav",
        "text": "每一次都這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/533.wav",
        "text": "我覺得把這個規則建立清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/534.wav",
        "text": "滿重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/535.wav",
        "text": "這樣以後大家就不用在那邊比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/536.wav",
        "text": "我有舉手你沒舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/537.wav",
        "text": "我舉得快你舉得慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/538.wav",
        "text": "這樣院長在主持會議時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/539.wav",
        "text": "不小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/540.wav",
        "text": "你明明主持得很中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/541.wav",
        "text": "很公正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/542.wav",
        "text": "但還是有人對你大小聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/543.wav",
        "text": "說他手舉得快別人手舉得慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/544.wav",
        "text": "所以我只想說第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/545.wav",
        "text": "先確認這樣一個基本原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/546.wav",
        "text": "三個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/547.wav",
        "text": "大家用輪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/548.wav",
        "text": "現在我們應該是進行到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/549.wav",
        "text": "對吧到第三輪了\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/550.wav",
        "text": "剛剛民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/551.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/552.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/553.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/554.wav",
        "text": "我們現在面臨到的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/555.wav",
        "text": "現在到年底了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/556.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/557.wav",
        "text": "也沒什麼討論的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/558.wav",
        "text": "就直接問他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/559.wav",
        "text": "你現在執行多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/560.wav",
        "text": "還剩下多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/561.wav",
        "text": "剩下的錢我幫你刪一刪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/562.wav",
        "text": "幫你們提高執行率就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/563.wav",
        "text": "如果是用這樣子的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/564.wav",
        "text": "在處理現在的預算的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/565.wav",
        "text": "大家都在浪費時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/566.wav",
        "text": "浪費不必要的勞力時間費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/567.wav",
        "text": "打開天窗說亮話就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/568.wav",
        "text": "啊大家都在浪費時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/569.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/570.wav",
        "text": "做這些事情到底有什麼意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/571.wav",
        "text": "其他事也不用討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/572.wav",
        "text": "了納稅人關心的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/573.wav",
        "text": "也不用討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/574.wav",
        "text": "了直接上來第一個問題就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/575.wav",
        "text": "請問你現在執行了多少還剩多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/576.wav",
        "text": "來我幫你刪一刪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/577.wav",
        "text": "大家的執行率都很漂亮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/578.wav",
        "text": "我不知道立法院在審預算時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/579.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候成為促進行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/580.wav",
        "text": "預算執行率的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/581.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/582.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/583.wav",
        "text": "我也要很清楚的講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/584.wav",
        "text": "我是在這邊審預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/585.wav",
        "text": "所以不會在這邊喬什麼個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/586.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯建銘總召有指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/587.wav",
        "text": "說什麼民事的個案拿來這邊喬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/588.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/589.wav",
        "text": "大家只要清楚聽我發言就知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/590.wav",
        "text": "我質疑的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/591.wav",
        "text": "我質疑的是台糖有認真追討嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/592.wav",
        "text": "在強制執行的程序中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/593.wav",
        "text": "可以做得很消極所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/594.wav",
        "text": "執行不到怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/595.wav",
        "text": "執行不到就拿一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/596.wav",
        "text": "債權憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/597.wav",
        "text": "掛在牆壁上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/598.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講的還不夠清楚明白嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/599.wav",
        "text": "\n但是還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/600.wav",
        "text": "針對顯有履行義務的可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/601.wav",
        "text": "故不履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/602.wav",
        "text": "者有請債務人報告他的財產狀況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/603.wav",
        "text": "債務人有說明嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/604.wav",
        "text": "有積極的催討行為嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/605.wav",
        "text": "因為大家看了都很狐疑啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/606.wav",
        "text": "大家看了也覺得很奇怪啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/607.wav",
        "text": "他過得爽歪歪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/608.wav",
        "text": "花天酒地吃喝玩樂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/609.wav",
        "text": "欠國家的錢卻沒有錢還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/610.wav",
        "text": "我對台糖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/611.wav",
        "text": "基本上提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/612.wav",
        "text": "的疑問就是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/613.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有叫台糖做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/614.wav",
        "text": "強你們所難的事情啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/615.wav",
        "text": "你積極求償的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/616.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/617.wav",
        "text": "還是消滅時效到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/618.wav",
        "text": "提一個強制執行聲請狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/619.wav",
        "text": "換發債權憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/620.wav",
        "text": "這樣就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/621.wav",
        "text": "因為現實上面大家看到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/622.wav",
        "text": "看不懂啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/623.wav",
        "text": "國家賠了一億多但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/624.wav",
        "text": "你現在討回來的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/625.wav",
        "text": "連利息都不夠耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/626.wav",
        "text": "然後這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/627.wav",
        "text": "立法院沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/628.wav",
        "text": "監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/629.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法追究責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/630.wav",
        "text": "請問我們到底該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/631.wav",
        "text": "算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/632.wav",
        "text": "大家長嘆一口氣就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/633.wav",
        "text": "對不起啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/634.wav",
        "text": "我就是沒有辦法算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/635.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會這麼堅持啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/636.wav",
        "text": "\n我從第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/637.wav",
        "text": "當立委在2016年到2018"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/638.wav",
        "text": "年就在追這件事啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/639.wav",
        "text": "結果沒想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/640.wav",
        "text": "我再回來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/641.wav",
        "text": "錢越欠越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/642.wav",
        "text": "錢越欠越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/643.wav",
        "text": "這個事情怎麼處理成這個樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/644.wav",
        "text": "你總要給納稅人一個交代啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/645.wav",
        "text": "還是我們作為立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/646.wav",
        "text": "該跟納稅人講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/647.wav",
        "text": "台糖很努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/648.wav",
        "text": "台糖很盡責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/649.wav",
        "text": "台糖已經窮盡了法律的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/650.wav",
        "text": "但是那個人就是很皮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/651.wav",
        "text": "他就是不還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/652.wav",
        "text": "所以我們大家也沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/653.wav",
        "text": "大家摸摸鼻子就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/654.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/655.wav",
        "text": "\n請蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/656.wav",
        "text": "記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/657.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們大家都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/658.wav",
        "text": "百分之百尊重院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/659.wav",
        "text": "在程序上的主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/660.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛也是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/661.wav",
        "text": "思瑤委員發言完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/662.wav",
        "text": "然後舉手因為沒有其他人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/663.wav",
        "text": "舉手所以應該也不是像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/664.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員所說的就是各"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/665.wav",
        "text": "各黨團輪流我是看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/666.wav",
        "text": "我們總召以及傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/667.wav",
        "text": "我就排在後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/668.wav",
        "text": "所以我想關於發言的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/669.wav",
        "text": "就是由院長來主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/670.wav",
        "text": "這個是沒有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/671.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個回到我們這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/672.wav",
        "text": "我先講啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/673.wav",
        "text": "就我看到黃國昌委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/674.wav",
        "text": "提案他是希望台糖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/675.wav",
        "text": "公司向本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/676.wav",
        "text": "院經濟委員會提出具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/677.wav",
        "text": "追償計畫報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/678.wav",
        "text": "經同意後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/679.wav",
        "text": "始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/680.wav",
        "text": "支台糖有提啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/681.wav",
        "text": "它今天就提了啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/682.wav",
        "text": "它今天提了耶而且它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/683.wav",
        "text": "提的這個如果以我的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/684.wav",
        "text": "來說我跟思銘委員是當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/685.wav",
        "text": "很奇怪耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/686.wav",
        "text": "你等於是告訴債務人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/687.wav",
        "text": "你看提這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/688.wav",
        "text": "報告出來向中華郵政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/689.wav",
        "text": "查詢吳君等人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/690.wav",
        "text": "存款債權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/691.wav",
        "text": "向中央集保查詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/692.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁等四人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/693.wav",
        "text": "有價證券"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/694.wav",
        "text": "向勞動部勞工保險局查詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/695.wav",
        "text": "商業公會查詢他們的投保資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/696.wav",
        "text": "依強制執行法第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/697.wav",
        "text": "財產狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/698.wav",
        "text": "提出這個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/699.wav",
        "text": "是叫債務人幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/700.wav",
        "text": "就笑死了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/701.wav",
        "text": "好那它也提出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/702.wav",
        "text": "提出了就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/703.wav",
        "text": "這一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/704.wav",
        "text": "一個提案的目的達成啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/705.wav",
        "text": "它提出了它會這麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/706.wav",
        "text": "\n然後再回到台糖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/707.wav",
        "text": "公司的本身事實上我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/708.wav",
        "text": "從它歷次的追償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/709.wav",
        "text": "償過程可以知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/710.wav",
        "text": "判決確定後就開始強制執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/711.wav",
        "text": "至少在109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/712.wav",
        "text": "就已經有執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/713.wav",
        "text": "然後有部分的受償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/714.wav",
        "text": "112年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/715.wav",
        "text": "看起來台糖公司也還是有透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/716.wav",
        "text": "臺中地方法院再次執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/717.wav",
        "text": "並且也執行到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/718.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁的財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/719.wav",
        "text": "108十幾萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/720.wav",
        "text": "在113年也就是今年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/721.wav",
        "text": "有再次執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/722.wav",
        "text": "也有受償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/723.wav",
        "text": "都寫在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/724.wav",
        "text": "一直到了今年都還有在執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/725.wav",
        "text": "執行有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/726.wav",
        "text": "效果這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/727.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會變成在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/728.wav",
        "text": "苛責台糖呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/729.wav",
        "text": "講白了就是在苛責它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/730.wav",
        "text": "黃委員的意思是說它應該還有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/731.wav",
        "text": "作法好那就要求它去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/732.wav",
        "text": "都還是在執行處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/733.wav",
        "text": "你要求要用哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/734.wav",
        "text": "強制力給債務人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/735.wav",
        "text": "強制力那是執行處去決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/736.wav",
        "text": "的就彷彿說啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/737.wav",
        "text": "我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/738.wav",
        "text": "現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/739.wav",
        "text": "法務部北檢這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/740.wav",
        "text": "要扣京華"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/741.wav",
        "text": "有看到成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/742.wav",
        "text": "又沒有扣成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/743.wav",
        "text": "我們也不能因為這樣去苛責法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/744.wav",
        "text": "啊說你們怎麼在法律的論點上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/745.wav",
        "text": "輸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/746.wav",
        "text": "沒有扣成沒有扣押成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/747.wav",
        "text": "所以我舉的例子就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/748.wav",
        "text": "強制執行自然有應該要去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/749.wav",
        "text": "的所以應該要去看它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/750.wav",
        "text": "有沒有積極的在做強制執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/751.wav",
        "text": "如果109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/752.wav",
        "text": "有執行112年有執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/753.wav",
        "text": "113年也有執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/754.wav",
        "text": "看起來它並不是怠於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/755.wav",
        "text": "強制執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/756.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員希望它提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/757.wav",
        "text": "未來的執行計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/758.wav",
        "text": "好今天我們也看到後續的執行計畫了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/759.wav",
        "text": "既然也達到目的了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/760.wav",
        "text": "我想這一案達到目的後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/761.wav",
        "text": "經同意後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/762.wav",
        "text": "我也贊成傅總召所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/763.wav",
        "text": "我們未來在審理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/764.wav",
        "text": "國營事業預算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/765.wav",
        "text": "應該要更快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/766.wav",
        "text": "這樣都已經執行到12月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/767.wav",
        "text": "我們才在審這部分的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/768.wav",
        "text": "這個是很滿荒謬的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/769.wav",
        "text": "我們未來應該去精進這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/770.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/771.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召要補充請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/772.wav",
        "text": "針對剛剛民進黨黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/773.wav",
        "text": "蔡易餘委員的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/774.wav",
        "text": "我大概說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/775.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/776.wav",
        "text": "可能從蔡委員的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/777.wav",
        "text": "所寫的目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/778.wav",
        "text": "求償狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/779.wav",
        "text": "他滿意這樣的求償計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/780.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得話要把它講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/781.wav",
        "text": "這個是目前求償的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/782.wav",
        "text": "我再說明一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/783.wav",
        "text": "這個是求償的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/784.wav",
        "text": "我在提案內容上說的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/785.wav",
        "text": "不好意思喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/786.wav",
        "text": "院長我們是不是維持一個基本的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/787.wav",
        "text": "現在我在發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/788.wav",
        "text": "剛剛蔡易餘委員在發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/789.wav",
        "text": "我從來沒有插嘴嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/790.wav",
        "text": "現在我在發言的時候蔡易餘委員在對面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/791.wav",
        "text": "做干擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/792.wav",
        "text": "這樣的行為是我們在協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/793.wav",
        "text": "請繼續我們尊重發言委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/794.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個事情是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/795.wav",
        "text": "要你提求償的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/796.wav",
        "text": "就是接下來具體要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/797.wav",
        "text": "嘛包括review你過去做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/798.wav",
        "text": "嘛接下來你做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/799.wav",
        "text": "向哪裡查詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/800.wav",
        "text": "那個是要強制執行的手段裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/801.wav",
        "text": "最基本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/802.wav",
        "text": "啊是最基本的基本動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/803.wav",
        "text": "啊怎麼好像講的是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/804.wav",
        "text": "啊我說了要怎麼求償的這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/805.wav",
        "text": "會洩漏秘密然後債務人趕快去脫產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/806.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會有這麼可笑的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/807.wav",
        "text": "這個說法太可笑了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/808.wav",
        "text": "你本來在窮盡在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/809.wav",
        "text": "他責任財產的狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/810.wav",
        "text": "本來就是要向相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/811.wav",
        "text": "機關去調他其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/812.wav",
        "text": "財產狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/813.wav",
        "text": "這本來就是一個最基本的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/814.wav",
        "text": "嘛但問題是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/815.wav",
        "text": "問題是剛剛講的那個基本動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/816.wav",
        "text": "並不是所有強制執行手段的全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/817.wav",
        "text": "台糖該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/818.wav",
        "text": "是去積極的求償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/819.wav",
        "text": "絕對不是消極的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/820.wav",
        "text": "遞一個強制執行聲請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/821.wav",
        "text": "狀給執行機關就算啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/822.wav",
        "text": "還要看裡面聲請執行的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/823.wav",
        "text": "啊聲請執行的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/824.wav",
        "text": "顯有履行義務的可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/825.wav",
        "text": "故不履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/826.wav",
        "text": "啊今天提這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/827.wav",
        "text": "我就是對台糖目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/828.wav",
        "text": "嘛當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/829.wav",
        "text": "我這樣子講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/830.wav",
        "text": "是不是屬於對於台糖公司的苛責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/831.wav",
        "text": "不合理的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/832.wav",
        "text": "我的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/833.wav",
        "text": "是不是有道理或沒有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/834.wav",
        "text": "全國的人民都可以監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/835.wav",
        "text": "啊只是我覺得話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/836.wav",
        "text": "要把它講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/837.wav",
        "text": "我就是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/838.wav",
        "text": "台糖到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/839.wav",
        "text": "整個追償的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/840.wav",
        "text": "就不夠積極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/841.wav",
        "text": "好接下來是柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/842.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團如果要發言請隨時舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/843.wav",
        "text": "難道要給黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/844.wav",
        "text": "一個dailyreport"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/845.wav",
        "text": "每天都跟你報告這個事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/846.wav",
        "text": "你當過律師的這裡面律師一大堆啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/847.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣所有相關的案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/848.wav",
        "text": "都是如此嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/849.wav",
        "text": "把它追索嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/850.wav",
        "text": "這個有什麼錯誤呢我不知道黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/851.wav",
        "text": "今天用了這麼多時間到底誰在浪費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/852.wav",
        "text": "你要把它大家都看得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/853.wav",
        "text": "最主要就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/854.wav",
        "text": "你要把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/855.wav",
        "text": "凍一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/856.wav",
        "text": "我們就表決嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/857.wav",
        "text": "那有什麼方法呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/858.wav",
        "text": "總是不能這樣處理嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/859.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個事情已經鬧這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/860.wav",
        "text": "了我想每一家公司台糖公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/861.wav",
        "text": "有民事賠償的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/862.wav",
        "text": "也不是只有這一件嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/863.wav",
        "text": "當然也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/864.wav",
        "text": "能夠做的就是如此嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/865.wav",
        "text": "那我們今天在這裡一直鬧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/866.wav",
        "text": "那我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/867.wav",
        "text": "來解決嘛只能這樣而已嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/868.wav",
        "text": "你要把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/869.wav",
        "text": "剩下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/870.wav",
        "text": "這個傅總召就講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/871.wav",
        "text": "了就年度都要結束了還在搞這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/872.wav",
        "text": "這是立法院自己的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/873.wav",
        "text": "這個再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/874.wav",
        "text": "還能有什麼結論我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/875.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝傅總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/876.wav",
        "text": "我建議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/877.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/878.wav",
        "text": "一個基本的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/879.wav",
        "text": "我想黃總召也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/880.wav",
        "text": "善盡民意監督的責任嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/881.wav",
        "text": "那當然各個政黨對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/882.wav",
        "text": "發生的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/883.wav",
        "text": "不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/884.wav",
        "text": "我們建議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/885.wav",
        "text": "這一個案子這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/886.wav",
        "text": "是不是後面就進行不下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/887.wav",
        "text": "了我也建議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/888.wav",
        "text": "今天隆重歡迎柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/889.wav",
        "text": "強勢復出重返江湖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/890.wav",
        "text": "今天能夠氣氛好一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/891.wav",
        "text": "讓我們推動的案子能多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/892.wav",
        "text": "代表都有他的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/893.wav",
        "text": "都有他實際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/894.wav",
        "text": "該表達的這些事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/895.wav",
        "text": "基本上大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/896.wav",
        "text": "沒有差很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/897.wav",
        "text": "國昌總召講的也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/898.wav",
        "text": "很務實的在追償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/899.wav",
        "text": "執政黨還是要有夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/900.wav",
        "text": "寬大的一個格局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/901.wav",
        "text": "嘛這個大家講就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/902.wav",
        "text": "嘛我覺得剛好就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/903.wav",
        "text": "講完老柯就一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/904.wav",
        "text": "發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/905.wav",
        "text": "把他打回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/906.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/907.wav",
        "text": "大家都要舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/908.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/909.wav",
        "text": "容許我報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/910.wav",
        "text": "我知道現在黃國昌總召蔡易餘書記長都要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/911.wav",
        "text": "我們今天31個案這是第1個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/912.wav",
        "text": "現在我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/913.wav",
        "text": "現在已經進行到3點44分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/914.wav",
        "text": "我們後面還有30個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/915.wav",
        "text": "容許我不得不裁決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/916.wav",
        "text": "本案無法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/917.wav",
        "text": "我們就保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/918.wav",
        "text": "下面一個案我們就針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/919.wav",
        "text": "中油公司好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/920.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/921.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/922.wav",
        "text": "基本上我尊重院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/923.wav",
        "text": "的裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/924.wav",
        "text": "在裁示的時候我們還是按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/925.wav",
        "text": "本來的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/926.wav",
        "text": "就是三個黨團大家輪流發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/927.wav",
        "text": "嘛否則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/928.wav",
        "text": "這樣子整個規則變得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/929.wav",
        "text": "啊很奇怪的是有一個人講完話以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/930.wav",
        "text": "就跟院長說好啦這個事情可以裁了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/931.wav",
        "text": "不要再討論了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/932.wav",
        "text": "你基本上還是要去注意大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/933.wav",
        "text": "發言機會的公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/934.wav",
        "text": "嘛以上這樣的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/935.wav",
        "text": "提供給院長參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/936.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝提醒接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/937.wav",
        "text": "中國石油公司方董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/938.wav",
        "text": "第36案台灣民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/939.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員所提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/940.wav",
        "text": "減列十分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/941.wav",
        "text": "跟第43案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/942.wav",
        "text": "理由都是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/943.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/944.wav",
        "text": "都是減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/945.wav",
        "text": "我們先只討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/946.wav",
        "text": "第36案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/947.wav",
        "text": "這個案子是牽涉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/948.wav",
        "text": "公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/949.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨在9月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/950.wav",
        "text": "就開了記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/951.wav",
        "text": "我也質詢過經濟部部長跟次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/952.wav",
        "text": "還有問了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/953.wav",
        "text": "前後任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/954.wav",
        "text": "中油董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/955.wav",
        "text": "經濟部是允諾說要儘快去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/956.wav",
        "text": "解決這個問題在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/957.wav",
        "text": "第一天我開記者會的同時就發了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/958.wav",
        "text": "這個是基於公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/959.wav",
        "text": "而且三接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/960.wav",
        "text": "三接預定在明年3月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/961.wav",
        "text": "所以我們基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/962.wav",
        "text": "幾點第一個是公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/963.wav",
        "text": "第二個是國家的重要建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/964.wav",
        "text": "我們也沒有擋可是有兩件事情一定要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/965.wav",
        "text": "的可是到目前沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/966.wav",
        "text": "天然氣輸送管線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/967.wav",
        "text": "保冷的材質出了問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/968.wav",
        "text": "今年2月份的時候就發現了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/969.wav",
        "text": "結果一直沒有改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/970.wav",
        "text": "有內部的吹哨者來跟我檢舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/971.wav",
        "text": "陳情在我們查證完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/972.wav",
        "text": "因為都有公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/973.wav",
        "text": "那中油也承認確實有這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/974.wav",
        "text": "而且牽涉到公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/975.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/976.wav",
        "text": "不能夠像本來中油說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/977.wav",
        "text": "一小部分一小部分的去改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/978.wav",
        "text": "材料趕快找到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/979.wav",
        "text": "一個管子全部弄好之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/980.wav",
        "text": "並確保安全才可以開始輸送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/981.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是承包商的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/982.wav",
        "text": "因為在這個案子裡面承包商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/983.wav",
        "text": "不只給了假的材料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/984.wav",
        "text": "還做了假的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/985.wav",
        "text": "中油有來溝通了好幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/986.wav",
        "text": "就是因為到目前都沒有規劃沒有進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/987.wav",
        "text": "我知道董事長很擔心部長也關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/988.wav",
        "text": "你們有派代表來講了某些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/989.wav",
        "text": "就是這個管線保冷的材料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/990.wav",
        "text": "目前進來的比例還非常的少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/991.wav",
        "text": "不要說全部進來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/992.wav",
        "text": "你到明年3月份要完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/993.wav",
        "text": "那現在全部的材料應該都要進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/994.wav",
        "text": "目前進來的大概只有十分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/995.wav",
        "text": "所以我要求做到兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/996.wav",
        "text": "第一個你的材料要趕快進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/997.wav",
        "text": "你每個月到底要換多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/998.wav",
        "text": "你要有一個規劃案啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/999.wav",
        "text": "你要定出整個時程是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1000.wav",
        "text": "我才有可能給你這筆錢嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1001.wav",
        "text": "好不好我這樣要求應該很合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1002.wav",
        "text": "而且這是有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1003.wav",
        "text": "就是經濟部中油跟我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1004.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨已經有共識了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1005.wav",
        "text": "基於國家的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1006.wav",
        "text": "可是為了公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1007.wav",
        "text": "所以你們速度一定要加快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1008.wav",
        "text": "這個案子委員會凍結2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1009.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員是提出要減列十分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1010.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在請民進黨黨團柯總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1011.wav",
        "text": "有關於張啓楷委員講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1012.wav",
        "text": "我們聽得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1013.wav",
        "text": "你們就是兩項要換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1014.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1015.wav",
        "text": "做主決議就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1016.wav",
        "text": "有的是土地的稅金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1017.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法刪減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1018.wav",
        "text": "的你這個建議很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1019.wav",
        "text": "中油也應該要這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1020.wav",
        "text": "中油如果同意這樣做我們就做主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1021.wav",
        "text": "只能這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1022.wav",
        "text": "很好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1023.wav",
        "text": "接下來國民黨黨團哪一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1024.wav",
        "text": "我想這個案子還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1025.wav",
        "text": "到底執行率是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1026.wav",
        "text": "如果從執行率來看到現在年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1027.wav",
        "text": "都已經用得差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1028.wav",
        "text": "包含所謂的人事費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1029.wav",
        "text": "如果人事費用也已經用得差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1030.wav",
        "text": "當然我們是尊重提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1031.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分做詳細的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1032.wav",
        "text": "的說明那我們再來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1033.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣處理好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1034.wav",
        "text": "好尊重院長的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1035.wav",
        "text": "這邊是中油到11月底的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1036.wav",
        "text": "資料沒關係方董事長您可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1037.wav",
        "text": "針對我們幾個黨團委員的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1038.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1039.wav",
        "text": "我想第36案跟第43案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1040.wav",
        "text": "這兩個提案本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1041.wav",
        "text": "主要是針對三接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1042.wav",
        "text": "不合格材料以及更換的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1043.wav",
        "text": "那我在這邊做說明第36案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1044.wav",
        "text": "跟三接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1045.wav",
        "text": "主體是沒有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1046.wav",
        "text": "第36案的管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1047.wav",
        "text": "主要是針對我們中油大樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1048.wav",
        "text": "所需要的用人費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1049.wav",
        "text": "以及這個大樓的維運費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1050.wav",
        "text": "這個預算到11月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1051.wav",
        "text": "已經執行了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1052.wav",
        "text": "15.87億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1053.wav",
        "text": "那麼全年的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1054.wav",
        "text": "數是16.88億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1055.wav",
        "text": "所以這個管理費用預估到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1056.wav",
        "text": "年底是會執行完畢因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1057.wav",
        "text": "因此我們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1058.wav",
        "text": "然後改成主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1059.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個\n至於第43案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1060.wav",
        "text": "就跟三接的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1061.wav",
        "text": "是有直接的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1062.wav",
        "text": "對於委員所關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1063.wav",
        "text": "兩件事情我也會在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1064.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員做個進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1065.wav",
        "text": "去更換不合格材料我想這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1066.wav",
        "text": "公司以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1067.wav",
        "text": "去進行的不過第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1068.wav",
        "text": "的數量是多少以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1069.wav",
        "text": "在這麼短的時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1070.wav",
        "text": "要如何去取得這個料源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1071.wav",
        "text": "這個必須確立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1072.wav",
        "text": "目前執行的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1073.wav",
        "text": "也跟各位說明必須要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1074.wav",
        "text": "更換材料的總量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1075.wav",
        "text": "平方米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1076.wav",
        "text": "這1萬4,000平方米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1077.wav",
        "text": "在星期一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1078.wav",
        "text": "就是這個禮拜已經確定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1079.wav",
        "text": "這個材料已經下訂單了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1080.wav",
        "text": "那下訂單去製作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1081.wav",
        "text": "時間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1082.wav",
        "text": "是2,300"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1083.wav",
        "text": "平方米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1084.wav",
        "text": "需要再更換的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1085.wav",
        "text": "而這個到貨的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1086.wav",
        "text": "第一批到貨的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1087.wav",
        "text": "會在1個月後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1088.wav",
        "text": "然後接著陸陸續續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1089.wav",
        "text": "分批會到達臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1090.wav",
        "text": "最後一批應該會在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1091.wav",
        "text": "明年的2月15號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1092.wav",
        "text": "所以在交貨以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1093.wav",
        "text": "陸陸續續有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1094.wav",
        "text": "去拆換去安裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1095.wav",
        "text": "更換的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1096.wav",
        "text": "規劃的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1097.wav",
        "text": "這邊來參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1098.wav",
        "text": "以上補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1099.wav",
        "text": "謝謝方董事長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1100.wav",
        "text": "提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1101.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員請再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1102.wav",
        "text": "我知道你很用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1103.wav",
        "text": "要解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1104.wav",
        "text": "不過剛剛聽下來這個進度真的慢得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1105.wav",
        "text": "非常非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1106.wav",
        "text": "因為你明年3月底就全部都要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1107.wav",
        "text": "嘛你現在最早的一批"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1108.wav",
        "text": "最晚的一批是2月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1109.wav",
        "text": "份你這樣來得及3月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1110.wav",
        "text": "到時候總統跟行政院長經濟部長都要去剪綵了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1111.wav",
        "text": "及這樣3月底你來得及做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1112.wav",
        "text": "你這樣就delay了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1113.wav",
        "text": "你這樣不就delay了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1114.wav",
        "text": "而且這裡面有很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1115.wav",
        "text": "的你的承攬商這麼大牌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1116.wav",
        "text": "這個案子為什麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1117.wav",
        "text": "第一個是公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1118.wav",
        "text": "第二個承包商完全不照合約裡面的內容走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1119.wav",
        "text": "啊他如果違約你要趕快去處理問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1120.wav",
        "text": "啊你進度要再催一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1121.wav",
        "text": "啦第一個是進度要再催一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1122.wav",
        "text": "你不能夠等到他1月份到2月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1123.wav",
        "text": "是你要跟本席跟所有的立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1124.wav",
        "text": "跟全民提出一個非常明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1125.wav",
        "text": "材料要儘快不能再等到明年的2月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1126.wav",
        "text": "第二個你要很明確跟大家保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1127.wav",
        "text": "你每一個階段裡面你要做多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1128.wav",
        "text": "例如說到了今年的年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1129.wav",
        "text": "明年的1月份明年的2月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1130.wav",
        "text": "你換了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1131.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議我們這筆預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1132.wav",
        "text": "不見得要減列啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1133.wav",
        "text": "我可以同意把減列變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1134.wav",
        "text": "凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1135.wav",
        "text": "我可以同意變成凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1136.wav",
        "text": "可是剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1137.wav",
        "text": "這是你對全民要交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1138.wav",
        "text": "接下來請吳思瑤委員發言陳玉珍委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1139.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1140.wav",
        "text": "很具體很聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1141.wav",
        "text": "要求也非常的明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1142.wav",
        "text": "確實基於公共安全的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1143.wav",
        "text": "對於這個保冷材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1144.wav",
        "text": "要趕快來更換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1145.wav",
        "text": "啓楷委員更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1146.wav",
        "text": "替你們超前部署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1147.wav",
        "text": "要在期限內更換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1148.wav",
        "text": "到貨的時間也不要去延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1149.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以提案委員的要求非常具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1150.wav",
        "text": "也非常合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1151.wav",
        "text": "另外一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1152.wav",
        "text": "除了更換的改善計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1153.wav",
        "text": "要來進行你們也應當提給委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1154.wav",
        "text": "我想這個大家都支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1155.wav",
        "text": "剛剛啓楷委員也釋出善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1156.wav",
        "text": "他可以用決議的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1157.wav",
        "text": "但是就是改成凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1158.wav",
        "text": "我想這個就這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1159.wav",
        "text": "剛剛董事長的說明是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1160.wav",
        "text": "因為這個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1161.wav",
        "text": "是中油大樓的管理費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1162.wav",
        "text": "所以管理費是中油大樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1163.wav",
        "text": "在信義區那一棟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1164.wav",
        "text": "所有人事所有管理的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1165.wav",
        "text": "所以說沒辦法去動到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1166.wav",
        "text": "因此可以把兩案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1167.wav",
        "text": "就如同您剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1168.wav",
        "text": "綜整用一個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1169.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這非常合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1170.wav",
        "text": "我也附和也支持民眾黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1171.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1172.wav",
        "text": "但是中油該提的改善報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1173.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣子的討論很有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1174.wav",
        "text": "也很有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1175.wav",
        "text": "接下來陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1176.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1177.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛聽中油董事長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1178.wav",
        "text": "到11月份花了15.87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1179.wav",
        "text": "主要是人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1180.wav",
        "text": "七成這裡面七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1181.wav",
        "text": "都是人事費嘛平均一個月1.44"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1182.wav",
        "text": "到11月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1183.wav",
        "text": "如果是到12月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1184.wav",
        "text": "等於是就要花到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1185.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果到12月應該就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1186.wav",
        "text": "再加1.4就是17.31"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1187.wav",
        "text": "換句話說要嘛你們就少編5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1188.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是你們前面多用了錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1189.wav",
        "text": "不然就是你騙我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1190.wav",
        "text": "就這個預算的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1191.wav",
        "text": "11個月嘛到11月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1192.wav",
        "text": "啊我說預算執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1193.wav",
        "text": "啦我這樣大概的算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1194.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果這樣到12月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1195.wav",
        "text": "就必須要17.31"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1196.wav",
        "text": "啊但你編的是16.87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1197.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是你少編5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1198.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是前面就超支了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1199.wav",
        "text": "就只有這種可能嘛不然就是你剛剛講的數字騙我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1200.wav",
        "text": "嘛我不知道是哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1201.wav",
        "text": "因為數字兜不起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1202.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1203.wav",
        "text": "還沒有通過你們就用了比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1204.wav",
        "text": "反正生米煮成熟飯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1205.wav",
        "text": "你認為立法委員沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1206.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1207.wav",
        "text": "16.87億我們預估到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1208.wav",
        "text": "年底會用完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1209.wav",
        "text": "第一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1210.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1211.wav",
        "text": "以112年來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1212.wav",
        "text": "而你現在用了15.87還剩下1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1213.wav",
        "text": "還有多少是人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1214.wav",
        "text": "呢1億的話有多少人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1215.wav",
        "text": "我想報告的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1216.wav",
        "text": "以112年的決算數來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1217.wav",
        "text": "這個費用的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1218.wav",
        "text": "就已經到達16.95億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1219.wav",
        "text": "112年即便浪費不等於113年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1220.wav",
        "text": "你的人事費還要多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1221.wav",
        "text": "你前面亂執行也叫執行完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1222.wav",
        "text": "啊亂花錢也叫執行完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1223.wav",
        "text": "到年底你還有1億的錢可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1224.wav",
        "text": "扣掉15.87還有1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1225.wav",
        "text": "你還剩1億可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1226.wav",
        "text": "下一個月就是12（本）月還有多少錢是人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1227.wav",
        "text": "今年我們的用人費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1228.wav",
        "text": "你就告訴我下個月我問你今年幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1229.wav",
        "text": "就已經用到15.87了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1230.wav",
        "text": "下個月這1億裡面有多少人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1231.wav",
        "text": "大概委員的意思就是今年會超支的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1232.wav",
        "text": "我不知道會不會超支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1233.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我們不能減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1234.wav",
        "text": "支你超支又要從別的地方挪用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1235.wav",
        "text": "那預算編列不實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1236.wav",
        "text": "喔會超支喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1237.wav",
        "text": "所以你的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1238.wav",
        "text": "本(12)月會超過1億喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1239.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講的就是112年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1240.wav",
        "text": "我現在問你本年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1241.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在審113年預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1242.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我現在用掉15.87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1243.wav",
        "text": "剩下1個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1244.wav",
        "text": "因為你的預算編列16.87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1245.wav",
        "text": "所以還有1億嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1246.wav",
        "text": "我現在只有很明白問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1247.wav",
        "text": "這1億裡頭多少是人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1248.wav",
        "text": "因為我剛剛也聽到柯總召說人事費要留著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1249.wav",
        "text": "是你編不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1250.wav",
        "text": "喔編不夠到時候怎麼發薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1251.wav",
        "text": "所以你可能會左挪右挪就對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1252.wav",
        "text": "你詐騙我們喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1253.wav",
        "text": "這個項目用人費用是不能超支的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1254.wav",
        "text": "我知道啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1255.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛只是按照你講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1256.wav",
        "text": "你到底聽得懂我在說什麼沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1257.wav",
        "text": "我只是問你到12（這個）月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1258.wav",
        "text": "你是聽不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1259.wav",
        "text": "嗎他剛剛說到11月用了15.87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1260.wav",
        "text": "每個月就是用1.44"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1261.wav",
        "text": "我幫你加回去你這個月就要用1.44"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1262.wav",
        "text": "嘛就會是17.31"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1263.wav",
        "text": "但你編16.87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1264.wav",
        "text": "就是不夠嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1265.wav",
        "text": "那你編不夠是怎麼回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1266.wav",
        "text": "所以你們編不夠我們沒有給你但又可以發出薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1267.wav",
        "text": "你是自掏腰包嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1268.wav",
        "text": "還是你不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1269.wav",
        "text": "還是你不知道你們的預算怎麼編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1270.wav",
        "text": "用人費用大概會支出1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1271.wav",
        "text": "剛好是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1272.wav",
        "text": "所以管理費用前面都用掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1273.wav",
        "text": "然後最後一個月只留人事費用是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1274.wav",
        "text": "你們是這樣使用經費的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1275.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1276.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我如果是這樣子我就理解就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1277.wav",
        "text": "\n你要告訴我實話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1278.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論預算嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1279.wav",
        "text": "所以你就只留了剛好1億發人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1280.wav",
        "text": "費用最後這一個月大家都不用做事情領薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1281.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1282.wav",
        "text": "連電燈都不能開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1283.wav",
        "text": "因為人事費就1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1284.wav",
        "text": "我是按照預算看的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1285.wav",
        "text": "我不能理解啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1286.wav",
        "text": "其他的管理費用的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1287.wav",
        "text": "你可以東挪西挪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1288.wav",
        "text": "我們減2億也沒差它反正就要併決算辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1289.wav",
        "text": "我們減3億也一樣它併決算辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1290.wav",
        "text": "反正沒有給它它併決算也能用啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1291.wav",
        "text": "它用其他的費用了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1292.wav",
        "text": "它挪用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1293.wav",
        "text": "你沒有辦法說服我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1294.wav",
        "text": "我不知道你在說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1295.wav",
        "text": "因為我給你1億不夠因為還要開電燈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1296.wav",
        "text": "可能還要吹冷氣還要掃地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1297.wav",
        "text": "可能都還要不夠要併決算辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1298.wav",
        "text": "所以我刪你2億也沒差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1299.wav",
        "text": "你最後還是併決算辦理啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1300.wav",
        "text": "我們是在幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1301.wav",
        "text": "接下來台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1302.wav",
        "text": "等一下是民進黨發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1303.wav",
        "text": "再來賴士葆委員要發言其他委員還要再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1304.wav",
        "text": "我們來解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1305.wav",
        "text": "啦我當初提這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1306.wav",
        "text": "啓楷委員我們濃縮聚焦一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1307.wav",
        "text": "對我們來收起來我們趕快來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1308.wav",
        "text": "第36案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1309.wav",
        "text": "我們先確定第36"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1310.wav",
        "text": "我要解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1311.wav",
        "text": "當初為什麼會提到管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1312.wav",
        "text": "必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1313.wav",
        "text": "抱歉當初為什麼會提案管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1314.wav",
        "text": "必須要減列一億多的原因是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1315.wav",
        "text": "這個案子很明顯就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1316.wav",
        "text": "管理不當的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1317.wav",
        "text": "你有去追嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1318.wav",
        "text": "可是這個事情的責任你要追清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1319.wav",
        "text": "我在質詢的時候講得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1320.wav",
        "text": "第一個吹哨者為了國家的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1321.wav",
        "text": "為了整個三接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1322.wav",
        "text": "接的安全他站出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1323.wav",
        "text": "你們說回去會獎勵他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1324.wav",
        "text": "裡面有疏忽的人責任要追清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1325.wav",
        "text": "所以當初我才提要減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1326.wav",
        "text": "這筆錢嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1327.wav",
        "text": "第二個剛剛錢看起來現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1328.wav",
        "text": "有點兜不起來可是第一個責任追了沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1329.wav",
        "text": "這是要去貫徹的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1330.wav",
        "text": "寄託給立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1331.wav",
        "text": "立法委員發現有弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1332.wav",
        "text": "這個事情我覺得中油應該不是只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1333.wav",
        "text": "在這個經費應該要減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1334.wav",
        "text": "可能不是要減這麼多可是一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1335.wav",
        "text": "適度減列費用好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1336.wav",
        "text": "一億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1337.wav",
        "text": "我們本來是提1億6,878"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1338.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1339.wav",
        "text": "報告院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1340.wav",
        "text": "第43案凍結2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1341.wav",
        "text": "這個大家剛剛通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1342.wav",
        "text": "現在往前推第36案是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1343.wav",
        "text": "管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1344.wav",
        "text": "本來是減列1億6,878萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1345.wav",
        "text": "我現在可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1346.wav",
        "text": "當然如果國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1347.wav",
        "text": "玉珍認為要更多一點可以再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1348.wav",
        "text": "你還是聽這邊講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1349.wav",
        "text": "那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1350.wav",
        "text": "不是因為張啓楷委員講的我要算一下數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1351.wav",
        "text": "我們要更精確這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1352.wav",
        "text": "你把所有人的講話聽完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1353.wav",
        "text": "數字有沒有需要算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1354.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講完話以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1355.wav",
        "text": "現在又有不同的看法意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1356.wav",
        "text": "這個讓我們納悶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1357.wav",
        "text": "我們講說這個管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1358.wav",
        "text": "16億的管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1359.wav",
        "text": "兩點主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1360.wav",
        "text": "你講出來我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1361.wav",
        "text": "你也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1362.wav",
        "text": "嘛你聽我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1363.wav",
        "text": "我們是要解決事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1364.wav",
        "text": "不是要在那邊聊是非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1365.wav",
        "text": "這有效率的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1366.wav",
        "text": "這兩個案應該併看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1367.wav",
        "text": "管理費用人事費用坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1368.wav",
        "text": "家嘛你要做的是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1369.wav",
        "text": "人事費用水電費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1370.wav",
        "text": "稅金什麼都是要繳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1371.wav",
        "text": "院從來沒有在刪這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1372.wav",
        "text": "啦第二個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1373.wav",
        "text": "三接工程費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1374.wav",
        "text": "你要把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1375.wav",
        "text": "但是剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1376.wav",
        "text": "有講到一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1377.wav",
        "text": "國營事業和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1378.wav",
        "text": "中央政府總預算不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1379.wav",
        "text": "中央總預算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1380.wav",
        "text": "新興的計畫和預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1381.wav",
        "text": "一定要立法院同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1382.wav",
        "text": "才可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1383.wav",
        "text": "國營事業就是說所有新興計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1384.wav",
        "text": "院長簽了就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1385.wav",
        "text": "國營事業就是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1386.wav",
        "text": "最後併結算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1387.wav",
        "text": "前面做個主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1388.wav",
        "text": "後面這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1389.wav",
        "text": "凍結2億我們就併在一起處理就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1390.wav",
        "text": "前面第36案我們就把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1391.wav",
        "text": "做主決議吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1392.wav",
        "text": "不能用主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1393.wav",
        "text": "管理不當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1394.wav",
        "text": "怎麼懲處是一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1395.wav",
        "text": "情但是不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1396.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1397.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1398.wav",
        "text": "好久不見柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1399.wav",
        "text": "滿懷念的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1400.wav",
        "text": "關於這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1401.wav",
        "text": "我想張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1402.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1403.wav",
        "text": "提的這個案子都很有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1404.wav",
        "text": "的對於第一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1405.wav",
        "text": "第36案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1406.wav",
        "text": "這是管理費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1407.wav",
        "text": "現在剩1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1408.wav",
        "text": "了剩1億的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1409.wav",
        "text": "這裡面如果真的刪太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1410.wav",
        "text": "老實講那就變成是鼓勵他去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1411.wav",
        "text": "挪用其他的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1412.wav",
        "text": "嘛否則怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1413.wav",
        "text": "呢他一定要挪用其他的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1414.wav",
        "text": "3,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1415.wav",
        "text": "我是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1416.wav",
        "text": "我們就刪啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1417.wav",
        "text": "但是可以再少一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1418.wav",
        "text": "就刪1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1419.wav",
        "text": "因為他只剩1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1420.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n我是按照你的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1421.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1422.wav",
        "text": "因為他原來的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1423.wav",
        "text": "我說維持張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1424.wav",
        "text": "的原意他是減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1425.wav",
        "text": "一嘛剩1億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1426.wav",
        "text": "當然尊重張委員最後的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1427.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1428.wav",
        "text": "凍結2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1429.wav",
        "text": "基本上我也支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1430.wav",
        "text": "我覺得重點都不在於要凍什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1431.wav",
        "text": "重點在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1432.wav",
        "text": "換材料的計畫提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1433.wav",
        "text": "它的原料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1434.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1435.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以安裝上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1436.wav",
        "text": "顯然現在中油董事長講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1437.wav",
        "text": "從1月開始到貨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1438.wav",
        "text": "要到2月底才到貨全部完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1439.wav",
        "text": "那張委員擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1440.wav",
        "text": "及原來schedule是3月就沒辦法完工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1441.wav",
        "text": "那中油就要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1442.wav",
        "text": "3月不能完工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1443.wav",
        "text": "是不是delay到4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1444.wav",
        "text": "這個在你的整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1445.wav",
        "text": "答辯裡面就要寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1446.wav",
        "text": "所以凍結主要是要你寫一個書面計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1447.wav",
        "text": "這個書面計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1448.wav",
        "text": "只要到了民眾黨這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1449.wav",
        "text": "立法院基本上就接受了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1450.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆委員很明確提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1451.wav",
        "text": "刪1,000萬元您能接受嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1452.wav",
        "text": "請直接發表意見好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1453.wav",
        "text": "只要民進黨不要再喊價的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1454.wav",
        "text": "不要加但書你接不接受就這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1455.wav",
        "text": "你能不能接受不要再喊但書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1456.wav",
        "text": "OK我要強調減列這1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1457.wav",
        "text": "第43案現在是凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1458.wav",
        "text": "2億元提書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1459.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1460.wav",
        "text": "不是提書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1461.wav",
        "text": "他一定要很具體地落實他的材料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1462.wav",
        "text": "趕快進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1463.wav",
        "text": "第36案減列1.000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1464.wav",
        "text": "第43案凍結2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1465.wav",
        "text": "現在我們請中油表示一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1466.wav",
        "text": "它不是人事費用它是管理費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1467.wav",
        "text": "管理費用不是人事費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1468.wav",
        "text": "還有其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1469.wav",
        "text": "那以後不審預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1470.wav",
        "text": "預算自己用了就直接霸王硬上弓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1471.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1472.wav",
        "text": "所編的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1473.wav",
        "text": "今年會執行完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1474.wav",
        "text": "那麼這裡面有七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1475.wav",
        "text": "是用人費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1476.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在原編預算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1477.wav",
        "text": "並沒有把今年的調薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1478.wav",
        "text": "薪考慮進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1479.wav",
        "text": "大院決議要刪1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1480.wav",
        "text": "我們予以尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1481.wav",
        "text": "但我們只是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1482.wav",
        "text": "跟所編列預算這樣一刪的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1483.wav",
        "text": "這中間會產生矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1484.wav",
        "text": "但基本上我們還尊重大院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1485.wav",
        "text": "那麼第43案有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1486.wav",
        "text": "張委員所提到保冷材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1487.wav",
        "text": "汰換的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1488.wav",
        "text": "跟各位報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1489.wav",
        "text": "因為最近才決定這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1490.wav",
        "text": "新購材料預定到達臺灣的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1491.wav",
        "text": "有關更換的排程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1492.wav",
        "text": "就是我們會把這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1493.wav",
        "text": "更換排程的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1494.wav",
        "text": "再給委員參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1495.wav",
        "text": "就是他們提了書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1496.wav",
        "text": "要經過我們同意之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1497.wav",
        "text": "這筆預算才能解凍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1498.wav",
        "text": "不是送來就解凍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1499.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1500.wav",
        "text": "董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1501.wav",
        "text": "你很成功的讓我們又"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1502.wav",
        "text": "持續地花了將近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1503.wav",
        "text": "20分鐘來討論這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1504.wav",
        "text": "民進黨待會會頒獎給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1505.wav",
        "text": "因為我們協商的時間真的很有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1506.wav",
        "text": "中油這麼龐大的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1507.wav",
        "text": "真的待會柯總召會頒獎給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1508.wav",
        "text": "這種內部你們可以處理的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1509.wav",
        "text": "在這裡就敬表同意就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1510.wav",
        "text": "你們自己內部調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1511.wav",
        "text": "嘛講了半天花這麼多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1512.wav",
        "text": "有必要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1513.wav",
        "text": "這麼大的金額你們內部可以調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1514.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1515.wav",
        "text": "\n讓我們的效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1516.wav",
        "text": "能進行快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1517.wav",
        "text": "很多東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1518.wav",
        "text": "看穿也不必說穿吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1519.wav",
        "text": "凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1520.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有時間處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1521.wav",
        "text": "書面送來就可以講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1522.wav",
        "text": "啊書面送來就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1523.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部麻煩大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1524.wav",
        "text": "我想我總結他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1525.wav",
        "text": "廣開一扇門了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1526.wav",
        "text": "看你柯老闆的面子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1527.wav",
        "text": "已經講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1528.wav",
        "text": "報告來就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1529.wav",
        "text": "後面沒有加一句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1530.wav",
        "text": "還要報告後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1531.wav",
        "text": "沒有加這一句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1532.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1533.wav",
        "text": "要經同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1534.wav",
        "text": "才能動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1535.wav",
        "text": "還有委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1536.wav",
        "text": "來解凍這個事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1537.wav",
        "text": "你在立法院這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1538.wav",
        "text": "以前都要經過同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1539.wav",
        "text": "這樣子各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1540.wav",
        "text": "要同意你要什麼時候會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1541.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部我想這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1542.wav",
        "text": "第36案我們已經確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1543.wav",
        "text": "我來嘗試性把它做個總結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1544.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1545.wav",
        "text": "經同意後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1546.wav",
        "text": "書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1547.wav",
        "text": "沒有書面報告不必同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1548.wav",
        "text": "啦因為同意的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1549.wav",
        "text": "要到明年幾月才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1550.wav",
        "text": "去排這個解凍案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1551.wav",
        "text": "不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1552.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員堅持要加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1553.wav",
        "text": "他同意就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1554.wav",
        "text": "張委員同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1555.wav",
        "text": "啦不要來我們這裡報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1556.wav",
        "text": "要張委員同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1557.wav",
        "text": "沒有時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1558.wav",
        "text": "經濟委員會不可能排這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1559.wav",
        "text": "這個會期沒有時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1560.wav",
        "text": "下個會期不知道什麼時候才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1561.wav",
        "text": "經提案委員同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1562.wav",
        "text": "提案委員同意可以啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1563.wav",
        "text": "張委員經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1564.wav",
        "text": "提案委員同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1565.wav",
        "text": "沒有時間排到經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1566.wav",
        "text": "整個立法院相信你一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1567.wav",
        "text": "我們不可以作這樣的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1568.wav",
        "text": "我想就是提書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1569.wav",
        "text": "之後有問題我們再追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1570.wav",
        "text": "這樣好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1571.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員堅持要經同意後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1572.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1573.wav",
        "text": "下會期什麼時候開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1574.wav",
        "text": "明年下半年去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1575.wav",
        "text": "你要總質詢完畢以後才處理到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1576.wav",
        "text": "了大家實際一點好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1577.wav",
        "text": "我們直接減列啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1578.wav",
        "text": "就是凍結2億啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1579.wav",
        "text": "就凍結2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1580.wav",
        "text": "送書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1581.wav",
        "text": "其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1582.wav",
        "text": "我是分享一下我的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1583.wav",
        "text": "我也許沒有幾位資深"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1584.wav",
        "text": "但是就我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1585.wav",
        "text": "9年審預算的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1586.wav",
        "text": "通常審預算時就像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1587.wav",
        "text": "你凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1588.wav",
        "text": "不管是送書面報告或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1589.wav",
        "text": "做專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1590.wav",
        "text": "就是送來後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1591.wav",
        "text": "我真的沒有看過經同意後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1592.wav",
        "text": "我只是在分享過去的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1593.wav",
        "text": "好各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1594.wav",
        "text": "我們經過溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1595.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1596.wav",
        "text": "第43案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1597.wav",
        "text": "直接減列2億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1598.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝中油公司請回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1599.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝各位黨團幹部請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1600.wav",
        "text": "各位列席的首長官員請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1601.wav",
        "text": "我們介紹台灣電力公司的曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1602.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團黃國昌總召提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1603.wav",
        "text": "減列50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1604.wav",
        "text": "4,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1605.wav",
        "text": "上一次針對這個預算提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1606.wav",
        "text": "我們已經做了充分的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1607.wav",
        "text": "以目前台電公司經營的狀況來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1608.wav",
        "text": "如果已經都虧損連連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1609.wav",
        "text": "還花了這麼多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1610.wav",
        "text": "搞媒體宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1611.wav",
        "text": "進一步去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1612.wav",
        "text": "甚至有給那種親綠媒體人像周玉蔻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1613.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的標案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1614.wav",
        "text": "然後這整個點擊率根本慘不忍睹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1615.wav",
        "text": "還是用限制性招標的方式弄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1616.wav",
        "text": "我質詢完了以後收到非常多的反饋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1617.wav",
        "text": "很多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1618.wav",
        "text": "都覺得很憤怒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1619.wav",
        "text": "錢不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1620.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子花的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1621.wav",
        "text": "上次台電有說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1622.wav",
        "text": "他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1623.wav",
        "text": "花了也沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1624.wav",
        "text": "所以我就麻煩他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1625.wav",
        "text": "錢到底花到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1626.wav",
        "text": "一樣一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1627.wav",
        "text": "列出來給大家看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1628.wav",
        "text": "不管是凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1629.wav",
        "text": "還是減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1630.wav",
        "text": "某個程度上面除了幫納稅人把關以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1631.wav",
        "text": "也希望提醒台電公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1632.wav",
        "text": "他們後來列表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1633.wav",
        "text": "給我以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1634.wav",
        "text": "我大概做了整體上面的觀察跟分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1635.wav",
        "text": "提供兩點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1636.wav",
        "text": "給台電公司參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1637.wav",
        "text": "在4,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1638.wav",
        "text": "這些所謂的媒體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1639.wav",
        "text": "廣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1640.wav",
        "text": "宣傳的費用第一個大宗的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1641.wav",
        "text": "是在電視節目上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1642.wav",
        "text": "廣告我們大概可以把它分成三大類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1643.wav",
        "text": "第一大類是節電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1644.wav",
        "text": "其實節電這件事情老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1645.wav",
        "text": "不用在媒體上面廣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1646.wav",
        "text": "最好的廣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1647.wav",
        "text": "就是每一個人每個月所收到的帳單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1648.wav",
        "text": "收到帳單就會痛了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1649.wav",
        "text": "那是最好的廣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1650.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1651.wav",
        "text": "還有企業形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1652.wav",
        "text": "台電公司整體上面的企業形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1653.wav",
        "text": "我相信絕大多數的納稅人心裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1654.wav",
        "text": "也都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1655.wav",
        "text": "整體出來的企業形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1656.wav",
        "text": "就是不斷地虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1657.wav",
        "text": "經營不善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1658.wav",
        "text": "然後要立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1659.wav",
        "text": "要漲電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1660.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1661.wav",
        "text": "是節能減碳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1662.wav",
        "text": "靠媒體打廣告有辦法解決問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1663.wav",
        "text": "就我們提案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1664.wav",
        "text": "具體的講是說了什麼具體的講是說好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1665.wav",
        "text": "處理到看要不要直接減列1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1666.wav",
        "text": "部長說沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1667.wav",
        "text": "說只剩下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1668.wav",
        "text": "你們現在剩下沒有執行的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1669.wav",
        "text": "是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1670.wav",
        "text": "你們有列一個表出來嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1671.wav",
        "text": "4,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1672.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們到目前為止用了3,600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1673.wav",
        "text": "剩下沒有用到的預算是829萬1,399元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1674.wav",
        "text": "我應該沒有理解錯嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1675.wav",
        "text": "現在已經到12月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1676.wav",
        "text": "那就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1677.wav",
        "text": "也沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1678.wav",
        "text": "錢都已經花了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1679.wav",
        "text": "如果用不到的話就把829萬給減了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1680.wav",
        "text": "台電曾董事長請表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1681.wav",
        "text": "我們會遵照黨團協商的決議辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1682.wav",
        "text": "敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1683.wav",
        "text": "敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1684.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1685.wav",
        "text": "好沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1686.wav",
        "text": "謝龍介委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1687.wav",
        "text": "材料費用凍結10%請國民黨團表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1688.wav",
        "text": "因為本案已經併第76案到第82案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1689.wav",
        "text": "之前本黨團有支持民眾黨黃總召所提案減列250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1690.wav",
        "text": "台電已經同意減列250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1691.wav",
        "text": "併案處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1692.wav",
        "text": "敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1693.wav",
        "text": "同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1694.wav",
        "text": "第68案撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1695.wav",
        "text": "第74案經台電跟本黨團溝通以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1696.wav",
        "text": "原本凍結10%的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1697.wav",
        "text": "現在同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1698.wav",
        "text": "改成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1699.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1700.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團同意凍結1%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1701.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長請表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1702.wav",
        "text": "好敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1703.wav",
        "text": "同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1704.wav",
        "text": "不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1705.wav",
        "text": "學柯建銘這樣講是可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1706.wav",
        "text": "第105案主決議經過溝通之後文字再修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1707.wav",
        "text": "我們就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1708.wav",
        "text": "抱歉院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1709.wav",
        "text": "第105案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1710.wav",
        "text": "文字再修正啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1711.wav",
        "text": "不是不是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1712.wav",
        "text": "照本案的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1713.wav",
        "text": "上次提案的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1714.wav",
        "text": "經保留後的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1715.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1716.wav",
        "text": "台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1717.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1718.wav",
        "text": "我們就交院會表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1719.wav",
        "text": "提案委員不是有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1720.wav",
        "text": "嗎台電同意就好了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1721.wav",
        "text": "這邊有一個叫溝通後文字再修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1722.wav",
        "text": "文字修正後通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1723.wav",
        "text": "因為這個案子我們收到訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1724.wav",
        "text": "好像提案委員對於修正文字是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1725.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1726.wav",
        "text": "因為黃健豪委員有些意見跟黨團溝通了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1727.wav",
        "text": "就原提案文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1728.wav",
        "text": "不是修正後的文字原提案文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1729.wav",
        "text": "照原來提案文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1730.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1731.wav",
        "text": "台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1732.wav",
        "text": "有意見的話我們就交院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1733.wav",
        "text": "換句話說文字再修正這段就取消了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1734.wav",
        "text": "恢復到原來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1735.wav",
        "text": "原決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1736.wav",
        "text": "原文字就對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1737.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1738.wav",
        "text": "原保留文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1739.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長可不可以表達一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1740.wav",
        "text": "等一下等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1741.wav",
        "text": "好請柯總傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1742.wav",
        "text": "傅總召你們原提案內容先講來鼻芳一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1743.wav",
        "text": "是什麼意思啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1744.wav",
        "text": "是不是請宣讀一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1745.wav",
        "text": "了解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1746.wav",
        "text": "鑑於台電公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1747.wav",
        "text": "台中火力發電廠為全球第四大火力發電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1748.wav",
        "text": "同時也是全國最大碳排放污染最高之電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1749.wav",
        "text": "為降低電廠燃媒機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1750.wav",
        "text": "碳排放污染"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1751.wav",
        "text": "政府積極推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1752.wav",
        "text": "碳排較低之燃氣機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1753.wav",
        "text": "取代高碳排之燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1754.wav",
        "text": "\n經查中火現有燃煤機組10部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1755.wav",
        "text": "共提供550萬瓩裝置容量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1756.wav",
        "text": "現有燃氣機組加上計畫於113年進入環評審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1757.wav",
        "text": "第二期新建之燃氣機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1758.wav",
        "text": "裝置容量可達810萬瓩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1759.wav",
        "text": "燃氣機組裝置容量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1760.wav",
        "text": "已經遠超過現有燃煤機組興建燃氣機組之目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1761.wav",
        "text": "應為減少電廠使用燃煤排放之污染"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1762.wav",
        "text": "爰要求台電應承諾未來興建一座燃氣機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1763.wav",
        "text": "即拆除二座燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1764.wav",
        "text": "並就未來台中火力發電廠燃煤機組之拆除計劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1765.wav",
        "text": "於1個月內提出書面報告予立法院經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1766.wav",
        "text": "還是修正過的比較好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1767.wav",
        "text": "這個不好要修正過後的比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1768.wav",
        "text": "來台電說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1769.wav",
        "text": "其實要承諾未來興建一座燃氣就要拆除兩座燃煤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1770.wav",
        "text": "這個會影響供電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1771.wav",
        "text": "因為包括用電的需求等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1772.wav",
        "text": "這些都會有一定程度的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1773.wav",
        "text": "我昨天還有親自去跟黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1774.wav",
        "text": "再說明一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1775.wav",
        "text": "原來我們同仁去的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1776.wav",
        "text": "就已經把這文字講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1777.wav",
        "text": "就是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1778.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能拆一部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1779.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能建一部拆兩部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1780.wav",
        "text": "以及未來整個發展我們怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1781.wav",
        "text": "來提出書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1782.wav",
        "text": "我們本來是答應了這一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1783.wav",
        "text": "我們是答應了這一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1784.wav",
        "text": "昨天黃委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1785.wav",
        "text": "如果是只是寫報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1786.wav",
        "text": "不然你就具體承諾你的一二號機什麼時候拆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1787.wav",
        "text": "三四號機什麼時候拆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1788.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就寫了一個2026"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1789.wav",
        "text": "會啟動拆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1790.wav",
        "text": "一二號機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1791.wav",
        "text": "2031會啟動拆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1792.wav",
        "text": "三四號機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1793.wav",
        "text": "我們是把承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1794.wav",
        "text": "委員要求的我們也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1795.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天才有這個修正的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1796.wav",
        "text": "現在曾董事長的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1797.wav",
        "text": "他們就直接很明確時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1798.wav",
        "text": "一個是2026"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1799.wav",
        "text": "一個是2031"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1800.wav",
        "text": "我想就實質跟程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1801.wav",
        "text": "發表一下我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1802.wav",
        "text": "就實質面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1803.wav",
        "text": "現在的修正文字是更具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1804.wav",
        "text": "台電承諾了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1805.wav",
        "text": "2026年以及2031年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1806.wav",
        "text": "分別要啟動拆除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1807.wav",
        "text": "一二號機跟三四號機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1808.wav",
        "text": "就立委監督的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1809.wav",
        "text": "覺得其實是更明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1810.wav",
        "text": "更容易方便我們監督的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1811.wav",
        "text": "所以就實質面來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1812.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的修正文字其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1813.wav",
        "text": "遠優於原始的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1814.wav",
        "text": "程序面上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1815.wav",
        "text": "我也要發表一下因為我們手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1816.wav",
        "text": "拿到的這個資料報告院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1817.wav",
        "text": "上面有提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1818.wav",
        "text": "黃健豪委員的簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1819.wav",
        "text": "2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1820.wav",
        "text": "12月10號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1821.wav",
        "text": "就如同我們曾董事長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1822.wav",
        "text": "昨天去跟提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1823.wav",
        "text": "說明也獲得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1824.wav",
        "text": "提案委員的簽字同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1825.wav",
        "text": "同意的是提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1826.wav",
        "text": "修正是更具體也更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1827.wav",
        "text": "有利於我們監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1828.wav",
        "text": "而程序面裡頭有提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1829.wav",
        "text": "簽字同意也應當是他修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1830.wav",
        "text": "循這個修正文字可能比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1831.wav",
        "text": "傅總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1832.wav",
        "text": "我想剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1833.wav",
        "text": "跟柯總召大概有溝通啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1834.wav",
        "text": "最新的版本拿給大家看啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1835.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們兩個都老花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1836.wav",
        "text": "但是剛剛很認真地看了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1837.wav",
        "text": "我想柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1838.wav",
        "text": "請台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1839.wav",
        "text": "在一個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1840.wav",
        "text": "把相關的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1841.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1842.wav",
        "text": "我想這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1843.wav",
        "text": "很smooth的一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1844.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼好爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1845.wav",
        "text": "請他們提報告來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1846.wav",
        "text": "有這麼嚴重嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1847.wav",
        "text": "立法院請他們提報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1848.wav",
        "text": "有這麼嚴重嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1849.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1850.wav",
        "text": "台電完全沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1851.wav",
        "text": "有問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1852.wav",
        "text": "這有斷句和逗點的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1853.wav",
        "text": "建一部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1854.wav",
        "text": "拆兩部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1855.wav",
        "text": "這個要承諾然後後面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1856.wav",
        "text": "就長期規劃並寫報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1857.wav",
        "text": "這個文意是這樣這會有歧義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1858.wav",
        "text": "如果我們只是去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1859.wav",
        "text": "評估蓋一部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1860.wav",
        "text": "燃氣拆兩部行不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1861.wav",
        "text": "交書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1862.wav",
        "text": "那台電當然可同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1863.wav",
        "text": "是有解釋上的不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1864.wav",
        "text": "\n11月27號院長主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1865.wav",
        "text": "會議我有特別說這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1866.wav",
        "text": "容我去跟黃委員再報告一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1867.wav",
        "text": "所以這案保留了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1868.wav",
        "text": "我們有約到黃委員有跟他說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1869.wav",
        "text": "我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1870.wav",
        "text": "承諾未來全部都這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1871.wav",
        "text": "拆的我會具體在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1872.wav",
        "text": "2026年一二號機2031年三四號機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1873.wav",
        "text": "這樣的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1874.wav",
        "text": "差別在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1875.wav",
        "text": "變成文字化一個月之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1876.wav",
        "text": "各黨負責人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1877.wav",
        "text": "我覺得台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1878.wav",
        "text": "不要太驚慌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1879.wav",
        "text": "你就把報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1880.wav",
        "text": "送來現在就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1881.wav",
        "text": "兩個很明確的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1882.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1883.wav",
        "text": "你願不願意把報告送來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1884.wav",
        "text": "送報告我們願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1885.wav",
        "text": "願意就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1886.wav",
        "text": "如果你不願意的話就是第二個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1887.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有要求得很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1888.wav",
        "text": "嚴格你的斷句是怎麼解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1889.wav",
        "text": "是你個人的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1890.wav",
        "text": "現在就是你要不要送報告就這麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1891.wav",
        "text": "報告我們會送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1892.wav",
        "text": "那結論這樣就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1893.wav",
        "text": "這個腦袋轉一下一斤棉花一斤鐵的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1894.wav",
        "text": "但是立法院的文字寫成這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1895.wav",
        "text": "到時候的事後解釋我們會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1896.wav",
        "text": "那可以文字酌修一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1897.wav",
        "text": "你不能承諾未來蓋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1898.wav",
        "text": "把承諾改成評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1899.wav",
        "text": "不是你們不能承諾是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1900.wav",
        "text": "興建一座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1901.wav",
        "text": "前半段評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1902.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說實質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1903.wav",
        "text": "台電應評估這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1904.wav",
        "text": "台電能不能承諾未來興建一座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1905.wav",
        "text": "了所以他沒有辦法OK他沒有辦法做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1906.wav",
        "text": "所以才說是評估好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1907.wav",
        "text": "他都已經評估過他怎麼又說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1908.wav",
        "text": "評估這件事情的可行性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1909.wav",
        "text": "然後一個月內送報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1910.wav",
        "text": "我跟你們講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1911.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題文字送來他剛剛講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1912.wav",
        "text": "他可以承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1913.wav",
        "text": "建一個機組拆兩個機組他把它變成文字化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1914.wav",
        "text": "他是這個意思對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1915.wav",
        "text": "對他講了你看他都點頭了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1916.wav",
        "text": "所以董事長就送報告來好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1917.wav",
        "text": "這沒有問題嘛這個絕對可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1918.wav",
        "text": "請台電照辦好你們送報告來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1919.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1920.wav",
        "text": "承諾提報告不是承諾要拆一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1921.wav",
        "text": "對承諾提報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1922.wav",
        "text": "這我們做得到沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1923.wav",
        "text": "是承諾提報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1924.wav",
        "text": "因為這天差地別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1925.wav",
        "text": "現在本席發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1926.wav",
        "text": "院長裁示本席發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1927.wav",
        "text": "我的文字表達如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1928.wav",
        "text": "有不清楚的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1929.wav",
        "text": "我可以課後來輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1930.wav",
        "text": "講話如果聽不懂的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1931.wav",
        "text": "我再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1932.wav",
        "text": "現在兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1933.wav",
        "text": "給台電來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1934.wav",
        "text": "選我們很公平公正讓你來選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1935.wav",
        "text": "第一個請你把報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1936.wav",
        "text": "提出來到經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1937.wav",
        "text": "第二個選擇如果你不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1938.wav",
        "text": "提也沒有關係我們就院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1939.wav",
        "text": "表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1940.wav",
        "text": "我們就寫報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1941.wav",
        "text": "公司在一個月內會提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1942.wav",
        "text": "報告到經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1943.wav",
        "text": "事情各黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1944.wav",
        "text": "按照主決議文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1945.wav",
        "text": "通過請台電公司一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1946.wav",
        "text": "之內送報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1947.wav",
        "text": "謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1948.wav",
        "text": "繼續針對113年度中央政府總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1949.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1950.wav",
        "text": "經濟委員會保留案共7案進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1951.wav",
        "text": "包括國發會主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1952.wav",
        "text": "行政院國家發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1953.wav",
        "text": "2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1954.wav",
        "text": "促進轉型正義基金1案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1955.wav",
        "text": "二農業部主管農業特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1956.wav",
        "text": "收入基金4案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1957.wav",
        "text": "我們來介紹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1958.wav",
        "text": "國家發展委員會劉主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1959.wav",
        "text": "劉主委你好請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1960.wav",
        "text": "第二個農業部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1961.wav",
        "text": "農業部陳部長到了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1962.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1963.wav",
        "text": "我們先進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1964.wav",
        "text": "國發會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1965.wav",
        "text": "部分\n第12案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1966.wav",
        "text": "現在國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1967.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆委員提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1968.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨團提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1969.wav",
        "text": "意見好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1970.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1971.wav",
        "text": "對於國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1972.wav",
        "text": "本黨提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1973.wav",
        "text": "24億5,700萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1974.wav",
        "text": "服務費用還有融資成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1975.wav",
        "text": "等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1976.wav",
        "text": "這個符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1977.wav",
        "text": "撙節整個國家的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1978.wav",
        "text": "是不是就請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1979.wav",
        "text": "國發會來表達相關的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1980.wav",
        "text": "請劉主委表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1981.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1982.wav",
        "text": "傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1983.wav",
        "text": "的確我們應該要儘量撙節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1984.wav",
        "text": "我大概說明一下這個科目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1985.wav",
        "text": "主要是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1986.wav",
        "text": "吸引臺商回臺灣投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1987.wav",
        "text": "然後也讓臺商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1988.wav",
        "text": "根留臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1989.wav",
        "text": "儘量在臺灣投資不到海外投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1990.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分是協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1991.wav",
        "text": "中小企業的投資與發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1992.wav",
        "text": "還有一個紓困加碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1993.wav",
        "text": "的手續費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1994.wav",
        "text": "這個手續費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1995.wav",
        "text": "是由這些廠商來申請以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1996.wav",
        "text": "我們再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1997.wav",
        "text": "把手續費付給銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1998.wav",
        "text": "我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/1999.wav",
        "text": "已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2000.wav",
        "text": "執行數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2001.wav",
        "text": "預計到這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2002.wav",
        "text": "因為我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2003.wav",
        "text": "2月份也來了大概2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2004.wav",
        "text": "萬會再進來這個再進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2005.wav",
        "text": "數字就會讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2006.wav",
        "text": "執行率是99.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2007.wav",
        "text": "%原因是我們之前已經被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2008.wav",
        "text": "凍結了5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2009.wav",
        "text": "凍結5%之後這個執行率是99.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2010.wav",
        "text": "%因為這個錢並不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2011.wav",
        "text": "給了其他人都是為了幫這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2012.wav",
        "text": "臺商然後付給銀行的手續費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2013.wav",
        "text": "是不是懇請委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2014.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2015.wav",
        "text": "好我們已經聽到劉主委報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2016.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團有寶貴意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2017.wav",
        "text": "好民進黨團有寶貴意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2018.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2019.wav",
        "text": "照你所說的凍結的5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2020.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2021.wav",
        "text": "那就應該是一億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2022.wav",
        "text": "1億2,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2023.wav",
        "text": "因為沒使用年底也用不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2024.wav",
        "text": "了這個繳庫就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2025.wav",
        "text": "OK就是凍結的已經凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2026.wav",
        "text": "我們要直接減列凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2027.wav",
        "text": "的還是直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2028.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎沒問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2029.wav",
        "text": "幫你們把預算是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2030.wav",
        "text": "常謝謝謝謝劉主委謝謝陳玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2031.wav",
        "text": "那我們第12項就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2032.wav",
        "text": "減列的話那委員會審查的凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2033.wav",
        "text": "就沒有喔這要確認喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2034.wav",
        "text": "這個就沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2035.wav",
        "text": "我們進入第14案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2036.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2037.wav",
        "text": "黃總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2038.wav",
        "text": "編國外的旅費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2039.wav",
        "text": "我本來是說把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2040.wav",
        "text": "全部減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2041.wav",
        "text": "列不過國發基金後來管理委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2042.wav",
        "text": "那個說明是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2043.wav",
        "text": "你們要派員出國參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2044.wav",
        "text": "投資人會議進行投資後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2045.wav",
        "text": "管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2046.wav",
        "text": "然後還有什麼國際創投如何如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2047.wav",
        "text": "感覺好像是要去參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2048.wav",
        "text": "會議要進行投資後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2049.wav",
        "text": "管理的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2050.wav",
        "text": "不過看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2051.wav",
        "text": "也不是真的那麼需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2052.wav",
        "text": "因為到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2053.wav",
        "text": "你們的執行數只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2054.wav",
        "text": "對吧我拿到的數字是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2055.wav",
        "text": "編了240萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2056.wav",
        "text": "到年底預計執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2057.wav",
        "text": "到48萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2058.wav",
        "text": "可能未來請國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2059.wav",
        "text": "再編列預算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2060.wav",
        "text": "核實編列會比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2061.wav",
        "text": "今年也沒疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2062.wav",
        "text": "編了240萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2063.wav",
        "text": "國際上面參加什麼投資人會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2064.wav",
        "text": "貸後管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2065.wav",
        "text": "會花48萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2066.wav",
        "text": "希望國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2067.wav",
        "text": "未來在預算的編列上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2068.wav",
        "text": "可能還是要貫徹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2069.wav",
        "text": "所謂零基預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2070.wav",
        "text": "的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2071.wav",
        "text": "因為我光看預算編列就很浮濫了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2072.wav",
        "text": "主計長坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2073.wav",
        "text": "應該也會認同這樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2074.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2075.wav",
        "text": "管理委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2076.wav",
        "text": "就減列直接刪190萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2077.wav",
        "text": "這樣也不會影響你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2078.wav",
        "text": "實際的需要不曉得主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2079.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2080.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2081.wav",
        "text": "的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2082.wav",
        "text": "的確我們也會深刻檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2083.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2084.wav",
        "text": "因為上次會議發現這個預算有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2085.wav",
        "text": "所以我刪掉了三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2086.wav",
        "text": "就是到美國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2087.wav",
        "text": "500Startups創投"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2088.wav",
        "text": "會議跟TransLink會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2089.wav",
        "text": "原來這裡有100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2090.wav",
        "text": "了才會造成這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2091.wav",
        "text": "情形對於減100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2092.wav",
        "text": "我們非常感謝就這樣來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2093.wav",
        "text": "主委是減190萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2094.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2095.wav",
        "text": "我發表一下我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2096.wav",
        "text": "我非常非常在乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2097.wav",
        "text": "國發基金帶著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2098.wav",
        "text": "新創出國闖天下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2099.wav",
        "text": "今年的執行率上一次坐在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2100.wav",
        "text": "做第一輪審查時因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2101.wav",
        "text": "我非常關心所以我有聽你們的回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2102.wav",
        "text": "今年之所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2103.wav",
        "text": "用的比較少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2104.wav",
        "text": "是因為你們原本應邀要出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2105.wav",
        "text": "什麼會議的主辦方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2106.wav",
        "text": "改成線上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2107.wav",
        "text": "會議以至於你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2108.wav",
        "text": "搭配主辦單位把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2109.wav",
        "text": "forumconferencen改成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2110.wav",
        "text": "可以不再帶著新創去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2111.wav",
        "text": "打天下做這些努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2112.wav",
        "text": "的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2113.wav",
        "text": "現在我們在處理的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2114.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這件事的道理要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2115.wav",
        "text": "說明白你一旦砍下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2116.wav",
        "text": "就等同你以後預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2117.wav",
        "text": "少了這是你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2118.wav",
        "text": "樂見的嗎好沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2119.wav",
        "text": "不會啦但我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2120.wav",
        "text": "還是把道理講清楚說明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2121.wav",
        "text": "我作為監督的立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2122.wav",
        "text": "今年的狀況是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2123.wav",
        "text": "特別特殊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2124.wav",
        "text": "因為國際會議的主辦方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2125.wav",
        "text": "不是操控在我們手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2126.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的立場還是鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2127.wav",
        "text": "送新創團隊出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2128.wav",
        "text": "參加各種活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2129.wav",
        "text": "不管是competition"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2130.wav",
        "text": "過去在教科文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2131.wav",
        "text": "出去也不過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2132.wav",
        "text": "我們的新創就是要出去打世界盃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2133.wav",
        "text": "的所以你想清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2134.wav",
        "text": "可以敬表同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2135.wav",
        "text": "我個人想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2136.wav",
        "text": "替你們再爭取一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2137.wav",
        "text": "你如果還是覺得敬表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2138.wav",
        "text": "同意我也尊重但我必須做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2139.wav",
        "text": "紀錄OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2140.wav",
        "text": "深呼吸劉主委深呼吸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2141.wav",
        "text": "謝謝幹事長的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2142.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛為什麼特別講我自己刪掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2143.wav",
        "text": "100萬的12月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2144.wav",
        "text": "出國費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2145.wav",
        "text": "\n我只是趁這個機會表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2146.wav",
        "text": "我們的確有用的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2147.wav",
        "text": "我們今年帶團到東京"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2148.wav",
        "text": "總共招攬1,500人次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2149.wav",
        "text": "來參加我們的新創活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2150.wav",
        "text": "也帶了四十多團過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2151.wav",
        "text": "事後是不是特別向黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2152.wav",
        "text": "我們大概做了哪些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2153.wav",
        "text": "會比較能夠理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2154.wav",
        "text": "至於今年的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2155.wav",
        "text": "重要會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2156.wav",
        "text": "費用在48萬就控制住了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2157.wav",
        "text": "未來的預算部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2158.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得吳思瑤委員講的非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2159.wav",
        "text": "有道理我們真的很需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2160.wav",
        "text": "很希望能夠幫助這些年輕人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2161.wav",
        "text": "活動但也應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2162.wav",
        "text": "我就大概這樣說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2163.wav",
        "text": "好主委的態度非常清楚這個計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2164.wav",
        "text": "還是很重要不過今年他可以同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2165.wav",
        "text": "14項我們就刪減190萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2166.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來第38案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2167.wav",
        "text": "促轉基金國民黨團提議減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2168.wav",
        "text": "列8,000萬請國民黨團表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2169.wav",
        "text": "各項轉型正義計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2170.wav",
        "text": "會費捐助補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2171.wav",
        "text": "濟及交流活動費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2172.wav",
        "text": "國發會的資料所示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2173.wav",
        "text": "到11月底的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2174.wav",
        "text": "執行率只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2175.wav",
        "text": "達到58%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2176.wav",
        "text": "到年底可以達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2177.wav",
        "text": "93%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2178.wav",
        "text": "中間的落差是因為部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2179.wav",
        "text": "案件辦理核銷所致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2180.wav",
        "text": "預計執行數後仍然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2181.wav",
        "text": "大概有1,034萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2182.wav",
        "text": "但是我們看到促轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2183.wav",
        "text": "會於完成階段性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2184.wav",
        "text": "任務後解散"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2185.wav",
        "text": "所屬促轉基金歸國發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2186.wav",
        "text": "會主管這顯非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2187.wav",
        "text": "正辦而且基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2188.wav",
        "text": "的補助各部會多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2189.wav",
        "text": "用於既有工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2190.wav",
        "text": "理應由公務預算支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2191.wav",
        "text": "提高減列數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2192.wav",
        "text": "到8,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2193.wav",
        "text": "相關的看法是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2194.wav",
        "text": "減列的部分我們有空間但是你們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2195.wav",
        "text": "看法是要減列多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2196.wav",
        "text": "我先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2197.wav",
        "text": "基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2198.wav",
        "text": "我認為我投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2199.wav",
        "text": "非常深"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2200.wav",
        "text": "促轉條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2201.wav",
        "text": "促轉條例原始設定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2202.wav",
        "text": "促轉基金的用途是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2203.wav",
        "text": "如果有一些不當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2204.wav",
        "text": "黨產收藏的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2205.wav",
        "text": "要用在哪裡一開始的設定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2206.wav",
        "text": "是長照跟社福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2207.wav",
        "text": "我們要學習國際的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2208.wav",
        "text": "不管是德國波蘭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2209.wav",
        "text": "西班牙這些在做轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2210.wav",
        "text": "正義的國家他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2211.wav",
        "text": "所成立的促轉所追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2212.wav",
        "text": "像德國也用相當的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2213.wav",
        "text": "比例在那個時候投入國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2214.wav",
        "text": "的經濟振興經濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2215.wav",
        "text": "的項目臺灣的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2216.wav",
        "text": "選擇是拿來做長照跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2217.wav",
        "text": "社福但是更重要的是國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2218.wav",
        "text": "際各國同樣把這筆珍貴的資金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2219.wav",
        "text": "拿來做人權教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2220.wav",
        "text": "跟文化推廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2221.wav",
        "text": "所以在修促轉條例的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2222.wav",
        "text": "我提案將促轉基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2223.wav",
        "text": "的支用項目擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2224.wav",
        "text": "除了社福長照之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2225.wav",
        "text": "應當用於人權教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2226.wav",
        "text": "以及文化推廣\n也很謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2227.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團支持我的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2228.wav",
        "text": "最後我們也說服了國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2229.wav",
        "text": "了所以說這一筆在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2230.wav",
        "text": "促轉基金的支用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2231.wav",
        "text": "完全是依附於促轉條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2232.wav",
        "text": "這有法律的授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2233.wav",
        "text": "而後當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2234.wav",
        "text": "有促轉會但促轉會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2235.wav",
        "text": "的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2236.wav",
        "text": "結束之後就轉由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2237.wav",
        "text": "國發會來接手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2238.wav",
        "text": "促轉的相關業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2239.wav",
        "text": "所以促轉基金對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2240.wav",
        "text": "基金的用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2241.wav",
        "text": "這一筆項下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2242.wav",
        "text": "我請思銘委員看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2243.wav",
        "text": "一下這一筆就是將各項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2244.wav",
        "text": "轉型正義事項的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2245.wav",
        "text": "研議執行多用於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2246.wav",
        "text": "研究跟推廣教育之用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2247.wav",
        "text": "我最在意的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2248.wav",
        "text": "它可以用在文化部門跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2249.wav",
        "text": "教育部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2250.wav",
        "text": "我站在長期推動促轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2251.wav",
        "text": "用在文化跟教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2252.wav",
        "text": "它可以辦論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2253.wav",
        "text": "可以補助學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2254.wav",
        "text": "去從事促轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2255.wav",
        "text": "可以舉辦國際交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2256.wav",
        "text": "可以辦展覽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2257.wav",
        "text": "可以有出版品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2258.wav",
        "text": "世界人權日76週年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2259.wav",
        "text": "是臺灣美麗島事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2260.wav",
        "text": "45週年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2261.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在處理促轉條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2262.wav",
        "text": "所以我非常在乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2263.wav",
        "text": "跟重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2264.wav",
        "text": "臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2265.wav",
        "text": "作為一個進步的人權自由的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2266.wav",
        "text": "我們對於促轉基金的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2267.wav",
        "text": "即便它現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2268.wav",
        "text": "追償追討而來的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2269.wav",
        "text": "不高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2270.wav",
        "text": "但是讓每一筆珍貴的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2271.wav",
        "text": "促轉在這片土地上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2272.wav",
        "text": "發生過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2273.wav",
        "text": "非常痛苦的記憶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2274.wav",
        "text": "可以轉化為正向的社會能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2275.wav",
        "text": "所以用來支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2276.wav",
        "text": "學者專家藝術創作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2277.wav",
        "text": "然後讓臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2278.wav",
        "text": "也可以將在這片土地上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2279.wav",
        "text": "促轉所承擔的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2280.wav",
        "text": "這種歷史記憶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2281.wav",
        "text": "可以跟世界去交流跟分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2282.wav",
        "text": "這是臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2283.wav",
        "text": "作為一個民主典範的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2284.wav",
        "text": "我們可以承擔的社會責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2285.wav",
        "text": "跟世界責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2286.wav",
        "text": "我真的不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2287.wav",
        "text": "這一筆預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2288.wav",
        "text": "砍掉刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2289.wav",
        "text": "\n我再次說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2290.wav",
        "text": "我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2291.wav",
        "text": "我萬萬不可接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2292.wav",
        "text": "這個用在學術推廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2293.wav",
        "text": "文化推廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2294.wav",
        "text": "及人權教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2295.wav",
        "text": "的項目被刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2296.wav",
        "text": "請思銘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2297.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的朋友再思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2298.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2299.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員\n接著請陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2300.wav",
        "text": "\n蔡委員對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2301.wav",
        "text": "稍後你等劉主委發言完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2302.wav",
        "text": "再發言因為這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2303.wav",
        "text": "我們比較知道行政部門的看法\n陳玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2304.wav",
        "text": "我本來還蠻支持國發會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2305.wav",
        "text": "聽到吳思瑤委員講完這句話以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2306.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個預算特別應該要刪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2307.wav",
        "text": "我來講嘛換我講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2308.wav",
        "text": "尊重一下好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2309.wav",
        "text": "我想國發會主要的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2310.wav",
        "text": "是讓國家發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2311.wav",
        "text": "讓國家社會更進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2312.wav",
        "text": "促進轉型正義這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2313.wav",
        "text": "當初是覺得過去做不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2314.wav",
        "text": "他們認為轉過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2315.wav",
        "text": "或是重要的一些學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2316.wav",
        "text": "每天都花心思在想過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2317.wav",
        "text": "什麼地方做得不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2318.wav",
        "text": "或怎麼樣一直在回想過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2319.wav",
        "text": "那我們怎麼創造未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2320.wav",
        "text": "國發會是在看未來的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2321.wav",
        "text": "而其他所說的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2322.wav",
        "text": "不管是長照當然我也支持長照跟社福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2323.wav",
        "text": "其他所謂的學術研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2324.wav",
        "text": "或文化都應該要回歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2325.wav",
        "text": "文化就回歸到文化部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2326.wav",
        "text": "該編什麼預算就編什麼預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2327.wav",
        "text": "學術界教育部如果有就編相關預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2328.wav",
        "text": "科技界科技部有相關的就編什麼預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2329.wav",
        "text": "照本來什麼單位編什麼預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2330.wav",
        "text": "就往那邊去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2331.wav",
        "text": "編而不是一直在緬懷過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2332.wav",
        "text": "就像我來自金門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2333.wav",
        "text": "如果金門人每天在緬懷過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2334.wav",
        "text": "38年我們受了多少苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2335.wav",
        "text": "47年四十幾萬發砲彈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2336.wav",
        "text": "我們都不看未來那我們要怎麼發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2337.wav",
        "text": "國家要怎麼進步呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2338.wav",
        "text": "立法院是帶領國家前進的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2339.wav",
        "text": "國發會也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2340.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我尤其不能同意吳思瑤委員所說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2341.wav",
        "text": "的為了這個為了那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2342.wav",
        "text": "人權我們也支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2343.wav",
        "text": "我們有人權基金會監察院也有相關的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2344.wav",
        "text": "啊就請他們編列相關預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2345.wav",
        "text": "嘛回歸預算的正常使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2346.wav",
        "text": "第一個我當然是不支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2347.wav",
        "text": "所謂的促進轉型正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2348.wav",
        "text": "完全是背道而馳的兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2349.wav",
        "text": "兩個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2350.wav",
        "text": "第二個我覺得這些預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2351.wav",
        "text": "如果因為國內的長照社福比較需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2352.wav",
        "text": "用在長照社福的部分我還是可以支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2353.wav",
        "text": "但其他用在所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2354.wav",
        "text": "這中間有太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2355.wav",
        "text": "國民黨這邊還是認為這個8,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2356.wav",
        "text": "應該要刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2357.wav",
        "text": "本來不覺得應該要減列這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2358.wav",
        "text": "在吳思瑤委員講完以後我覺得應該要減列這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2359.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2360.wav",
        "text": "關於這筆錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2361.wav",
        "text": "這個基金的用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2362.wav",
        "text": "因為它已經進入組織條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2363.wav",
        "text": "它進到這裡主要是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2364.wav",
        "text": "我們對基金的管理比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2365.wav",
        "text": "促轉條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2366.wav",
        "text": "第十一條之2的規定在實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2367.wav",
        "text": "今年的提案其實上一次我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2368.wav",
        "text": "決議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2369.wav",
        "text": "我記得王鴻薇委員是希望我們把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2370.wav",
        "text": "未來要實現的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2371.wav",
        "text": "因為我們當時是說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2372.wav",
        "text": "年底會到93%的執行率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2373.wav",
        "text": "當時王鴻薇委員希望我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2374.wav",
        "text": "把未來還有哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2375.wav",
        "text": "要付的錢跟結算的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2376.wav",
        "text": "明細繳付出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2377.wav",
        "text": "然後來看合理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2378.wav",
        "text": "我們來做這個預算的同意與否"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2379.wav",
        "text": "我們現在已遵照這個作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2380.wav",
        "text": "要執行跟要付出的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2381.wav",
        "text": "都整理出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2382.wav",
        "text": "我們也詳附"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2383.wav",
        "text": "在報告裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2384.wav",
        "text": "的確是到93%的執行率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2385.wav",
        "text": "這個也是已經花下去的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2386.wav",
        "text": "該由哪個單位來處理我想那是以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2387.wav",
        "text": "我們可以另外來做一個法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2388.wav",
        "text": "的處理但是因為這是法律的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2389.wav",
        "text": "我們只能遵照法律來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2390.wav",
        "text": "是不是能考慮到這個錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2391.wav",
        "text": "已經用了如果把它砍掉的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2392.wav",
        "text": "這筆錢怎麼付出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2393.wav",
        "text": "就會造成各單位的困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2394.wav",
        "text": "現在已經到12月今天是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2395.wav",
        "text": "11號你們已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2396.wav",
        "text": "執行率是多少執行率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2397.wav",
        "text": "93%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2398.wav",
        "text": "只剩1,000萬左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2399.wav",
        "text": "那就減1,000萬嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2400.wav",
        "text": "讓黨團幹部能夠理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2401.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們才好處理好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2402.wav",
        "text": "\n劉主委您稍待一下請蔡易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2403.wav",
        "text": "記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2404.wav",
        "text": "如果我們以這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2405.wav",
        "text": "書面來說它的執行率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2406.wav",
        "text": "已經93%執行數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2407.wav",
        "text": "所剩不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2408.wav",
        "text": "所以你要大筆這樣一砍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2409.wav",
        "text": "事實上它很多的執行這會不會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2410.wav",
        "text": "未來在決算的時候會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2411.wav",
        "text": "很大的麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2412.wav",
        "text": "也聽了陳玉珍委員的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2413.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2414.wav",
        "text": "國民黨最近都在說臺灣不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2415.wav",
        "text": "事實上轉型正義就是在處理戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2416.wav",
        "text": "時候的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2417.wav",
        "text": "啊我們沒有去檢討在戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2418.wav",
        "text": "時候所發生的人權侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2419.wav",
        "text": "我們現在需要透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2420.wav",
        "text": "促進轉型正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2421.wav",
        "text": "修復或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2422.wav",
        "text": "做很多人權教育的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2423.wav",
        "text": "要怎樣去確保這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2424.wav",
        "text": "事不會再發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2425.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就覺得這很矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2426.wav",
        "text": "啊國民黨一方面有提案說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2427.wav",
        "text": "戒嚴法要修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2428.wav",
        "text": "卻說轉型正義不要做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2429.wav",
        "text": "要把這個預算大筆一揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2430.wav",
        "text": "把它砍掉然後造成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2431.wav",
        "text": "在執行的時候會有很大的麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2432.wav",
        "text": "我想國發會雖然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2433.wav",
        "text": "站在國家發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2434.wav",
        "text": "威權時代的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2435.wav",
        "text": "也是很重要的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2436.wav",
        "text": "不能說國發會就不能做這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2437.wav",
        "text": "現在請張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2438.wav",
        "text": "我聽了吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2439.wav",
        "text": "跟易餘講的話之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2440.wav",
        "text": "忍不住要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2441.wav",
        "text": "促轉基金促進轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2442.wav",
        "text": "民進黨最近鬧了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2443.wav",
        "text": "國際上的大笑話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2444.wav",
        "text": "竟然在立法院的黨團裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2445.wav",
        "text": "官方的網站去呼應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2446.wav",
        "text": "去挺了南韓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2447.wav",
        "text": "南韓的戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2448.wav",
        "text": "從尹錫悅的角度視野去看戒嚴這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2449.wav",
        "text": "到現在小編也沒道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2450.wav",
        "text": "立院黨團也沒道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2451.wav",
        "text": "然後賴清德總統兼黨主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2452.wav",
        "text": "還跑出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2453.wav",
        "text": "你們這叫轉型嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2454.wav",
        "text": "這叫轉型嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2455.wav",
        "text": "我前幾天在審國發會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2456.wav",
        "text": "預算的時候就提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2457.wav",
        "text": "我要凍結二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2458.wav",
        "text": "包括要讓人民去認識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2459.wav",
        "text": "整個戒嚴的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2460.wav",
        "text": "從參與的人跟參觀的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2461.wav",
        "text": "來看根本就是績效不彰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2462.wav",
        "text": "預算裡面說要有多少人去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2463.wav",
        "text": "參觀跟參與的目標所以我凍結了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2464.wav",
        "text": "二分之一的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2465.wav",
        "text": "但是促轉條例我覺得凍結8,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2466.wav",
        "text": "算是客氣了\n剛剛講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2467.wav",
        "text": "昨天不只是國際的人權日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2468.wav",
        "text": "美麗島事件45週年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2469.wav",
        "text": "沒有美麗島有民進黨嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2470.wav",
        "text": "民進黨記得當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2471.wav",
        "text": "你們美麗島事件的前輩是怎麼流血流汗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2472.wav",
        "text": "去爭取臺灣的民主自由嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2473.wav",
        "text": "你們現在站出來挺戒嚴呼應戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2474.wav",
        "text": "結果今天你們還是一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2475.wav",
        "text": "我覺得砍8,000萬可能太少了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2476.wav",
        "text": "接下來請吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2477.wav",
        "text": "發言傅崐萁總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2478.wav",
        "text": "就預算論預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2479.wav",
        "text": "剛剛國發會有說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2480.wav",
        "text": "已經執行了九成三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2481.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有執行的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2482.wav",
        "text": "就是1,034萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2483.wav",
        "text": "如果在野黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2484.wav",
        "text": "想要做預算的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2485.wav",
        "text": "務實上可以處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2486.wav",
        "text": "\n思銘委員您剛剛的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2487.wav",
        "text": "大概也是想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2488.wav",
        "text": "釐清到底有多少錢沒有用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2489.wav",
        "text": "已經年底了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2490.wav",
        "text": "所以如果大家可以同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2491.wav",
        "text": "的部分可能是可以刪減的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2492.wav",
        "text": "請不要再繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2493.wav",
        "text": "消費不存在的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2494.wav",
        "text": "不要再做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2495.wav",
        "text": "這些炒作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2496.wav",
        "text": "基金今年所執行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2497.wav",
        "text": "項目我也跟陳玉珍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2498.wav",
        "text": "委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2499.wav",
        "text": "也有用於金門馬祖地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2500.wav",
        "text": "療癒創傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2501.wav",
        "text": "工作群組的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2502.wav",
        "text": "大家關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2503.wav",
        "text": "社福部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2504.wav",
        "text": "建置政治受難者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2505.wav",
        "text": "家屬照顧服務的據點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2506.wav",
        "text": "很多政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2507.wav",
        "text": "受難口述歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2508.wav",
        "text": "的推廣活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2509.wav",
        "text": "檔案調查然後很多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2510.wav",
        "text": "影像紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2511.wav",
        "text": "不義遺址的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2512.wav",
        "text": "復舊不義遺址的保存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2513.wav",
        "text": "教育部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2514.wav",
        "text": "場次的辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2515.wav",
        "text": "這些東西都是我們當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2516.wav",
        "text": "在審議轉型正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2517.wav",
        "text": "條例的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2518.wav",
        "text": "朝野的共識所以今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2519.wav",
        "text": "國發基金的這一筆預算是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2520.wav",
        "text": "依據法律的授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2521.wav",
        "text": "進行了當初法律授權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2522.wav",
        "text": "每一個項次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2523.wav",
        "text": "的內容從長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2524.wav",
        "text": "從社福從人權教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2525.wav",
        "text": "到文化的推廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2526.wav",
        "text": "都是非常的合理正當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2527.wav",
        "text": "因為只剩下1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2528.wav",
        "text": "沒有用所以要刪減的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2529.wav",
        "text": "就只有這個部分可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2530.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝在傅總召發言之前我提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2531.wav",
        "text": "劉主委所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2532.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2533.wav",
        "text": "林思銘委員所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2534.wav",
        "text": "及吳思瑤委員所提到的目前大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2535.wav",
        "text": "剩1,034萬這是單純就預算本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2536.wav",
        "text": "至於其他的傅總召您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2537.wav",
        "text": "請自己表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2538.wav",
        "text": "大家既然聊得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2539.wav",
        "text": "這麼公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2540.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們民主國會該討論的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2541.wav",
        "text": "一個民主國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2542.wav",
        "text": "在國會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2543.wav",
        "text": "什麼事都可以進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2544.wav",
        "text": "什麼事都可以進行研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2545.wav",
        "text": "但是最終"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2546.wav",
        "text": "民主國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2547.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2548.wav",
        "text": "在數人頭而不是比拳頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2549.wav",
        "text": "當年民進黨的先賢先烈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2550.wav",
        "text": "烈三十幾年前我就跟他們都很熟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2551.wav",
        "text": "對現在的民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2552.wav",
        "text": "他們是一直在搖頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2553.wav",
        "text": "楷委員能夠講得這麼清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2554.wav",
        "text": "我想今天我們國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2555.wav",
        "text": "看到民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2556.wav",
        "text": "正式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2557.wav",
        "text": "把臺灣的臉丟到整個全世界去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2558.wav",
        "text": "在支持韓國的戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2559.wav",
        "text": "支持韓國的戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2560.wav",
        "text": "讓韓國人民有多麼憤怒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2561.wav",
        "text": "然後更誇張的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2562.wav",
        "text": "現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2563.wav",
        "text": "連國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2564.wav",
        "text": "出國行銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2565.wav",
        "text": "地方的觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2566.wav",
        "text": "現在要直航"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2567.wav",
        "text": "看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2568.wav",
        "text": "連在野黨國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2569.wav",
        "text": "出門還要經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2570.wav",
        "text": "執政黨的同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2571.wav",
        "text": "不然動輒就用綠媒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2572.wav",
        "text": "在那邊抹黑攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2573.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候去香港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2574.wav",
        "text": "國會議員要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2575.wav",
        "text": "民進黨來報備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2576.wav",
        "text": "實在是有夠離譜誇張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2577.wav",
        "text": "中華民國哪一條法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2578.wav",
        "text": "規定國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2579.wav",
        "text": "去香港要跟民進黨報備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2580.wav",
        "text": "這個民主的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2581.wav",
        "text": "不能民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2582.wav",
        "text": "要的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2583.wav",
        "text": "就來這裡討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2584.wav",
        "text": "不要的案子經過所有的章程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2585.wav",
        "text": "所有的議事規則討論完畢以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2586.wav",
        "text": "院長還召集兩次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2587.wav",
        "text": "交院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2588.wav",
        "text": "院會處理民進黨就拳腳相向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2589.wav",
        "text": "這叫民主進步嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2590.wav",
        "text": "現在我們國會已經戒嚴了是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2591.wav",
        "text": "沒有民進黨同意就不能表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2592.wav",
        "text": "就要拳腳相向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2593.wav",
        "text": "就叫偷襲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2594.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫偷襲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2595.wav",
        "text": "啊按照所有議事規則來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2596.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫偷襲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2597.wav",
        "text": "啊要3天5天前公告嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2598.wav",
        "text": "要民進黨同意才能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2599.wav",
        "text": "做民主的處理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2600.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的國會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2601.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的國會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2602.wav",
        "text": "真的很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2603.wav",
        "text": "更重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2604.wav",
        "text": "我們還是謹守分際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2605.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2606.wav",
        "text": "要處理選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2607.wav",
        "text": "我們還是到議場後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2608.wav",
        "text": "跟院長報告完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2609.wav",
        "text": "院長裁示得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2610.wav",
        "text": "一切依議事規則來辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2611.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2612.wav",
        "text": "我有跟您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2613.wav",
        "text": "你也這麼裁示對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2614.wav",
        "text": "好然後綠媒在那邊講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2615.wav",
        "text": "什麼院長不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2616.wav",
        "text": "我們突襲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2617.wav",
        "text": "要做什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2618.wav",
        "text": "一定要經過民進黨同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2619.wav",
        "text": "啊我們按議事規則走不行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2620.wav",
        "text": "現在國會是已經戒嚴了是嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2621.wav",
        "text": "民進黨為什麼可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2622.wav",
        "text": "這麼蠻橫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2623.wav",
        "text": "為什麼可以這麼蠻橫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2624.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2625.wav",
        "text": "我們國會什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2626.wav",
        "text": "都需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2627.wav",
        "text": "民進黨同意才能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2628.wav",
        "text": "進行民主程序的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2629.wav",
        "text": "那以後沒有什麼好協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2630.wav",
        "text": "嘛你要的就拿去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2631.wav",
        "text": "你處處不尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2632.wav",
        "text": "這國家還有法治嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2633.wav",
        "text": "還有國會民主嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2634.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫民主進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2635.wav",
        "text": "人的忍耐是有限度的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2636.wav",
        "text": "人民的忍耐也是有限度的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2637.wav",
        "text": "就在那邊天天造謠生非"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2638.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣子的話以後協商沒有什麼好協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2639.wav",
        "text": "你們要的就拿去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2640.wav",
        "text": "不要的就在那裡鬧場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2641.wav",
        "text": "拳腳相向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2642.wav",
        "text": "以後國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2643.wav",
        "text": "難道一定要先去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2644.wav",
        "text": "格鬥班訓練完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2645.wav",
        "text": "成了才能當國會議員嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2646.wav",
        "text": "現在民進黨給全民的教育就是這樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2647.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2648.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2649.wav",
        "text": "傅總召跟林思銘委員麻煩把麥克風壓掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2650.wav",
        "text": "\n麥玉珍委員發言柯總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2651.wav",
        "text": "好那我們請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2652.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2653.wav",
        "text": "今天大家在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2654.wav",
        "text": "不知道在演什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2655.wav",
        "text": "是非顛倒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2656.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候民進黨拳打腳踢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2657.wav",
        "text": "拳頭相向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2658.wav",
        "text": "啊其實這個倒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2659.wav",
        "text": "也不必再拗什麼民進黨是挺戒嚴"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2660.wav",
        "text": "坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2661.wav",
        "text": "這個促轉條例是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2662.wav",
        "text": "2017年12月5號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2663.wav",
        "text": "也就是在12月10號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2664.wav",
        "text": "提案委員就是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2665.wav",
        "text": "我代表民進黨黨團提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2666.wav",
        "text": "這不是行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2667.wav",
        "text": "整個轉型正義大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2668.wav",
        "text": "今天臺灣已經翻到這一頁來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2669.wav",
        "text": "歷史可以原諒但不能忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2670.wav",
        "text": "要走出過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2671.wav",
        "text": "威權時期了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2672.wav",
        "text": "今天我要談的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2673.wav",
        "text": "民進黨是反對戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2674.wav",
        "text": "然後在戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2675.wav",
        "text": "底下衝撞成長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2676.wav",
        "text": "當年我也是黨外人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2677.wav",
        "text": "民進黨不可能去贊成戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2678.wav",
        "text": "們那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2679.wav",
        "text": "小朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2680.wav",
        "text": "哪一個文字寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2681.wav",
        "text": "贊成戒嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2682.wav",
        "text": "我們也發表聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2683.wav",
        "text": "今天我們回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2684.wav",
        "text": "實事求是上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2685.wav",
        "text": "今天我要講的就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2686.wav",
        "text": "是法定義務支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2687.wav",
        "text": "剛才林思銘講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2688.wav",
        "text": "我們刪就刪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2689.wav",
        "text": "嘴皮子表演都不適合了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2690.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2691.wav",
        "text": "大概血壓也上升的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2692.wav",
        "text": "去冷卻一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2693.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部容我提醒一下大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2694.wav",
        "text": "我腦袋之中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2695.wav",
        "text": "一直在想國發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2696.wav",
        "text": "基金只剩下1,034萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2697.wav",
        "text": "我想你們不管講些什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2698.wav",
        "text": "沒關係陳玉珍委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2699.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2700.wav",
        "text": "我想促進轉型正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2701.wav",
        "text": "如果民黨真的心裡在意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2702.wav",
        "text": "不會轉型正義到今天還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2703.wav",
        "text": "只會扣帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2704.wav",
        "text": "然後只會挑起仇恨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2705.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就預算論預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2706.wav",
        "text": "要經過國會監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2707.wav",
        "text": "國會審查通過後始得動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2708.wav",
        "text": "嘛當然基金這種事後說用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2709.wav",
        "text": "但不表示你們怎麼用我們都可以同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2710.wav",
        "text": "不表示你們怎麼用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2711.wav",
        "text": "都可以用生米煮成熟飯的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2712.wav",
        "text": "讓我們同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2713.wav",
        "text": "這個是基本的法律原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2714.wav",
        "text": "嘛當然你們打算怎麼用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2715.wav",
        "text": "到時候我們也是可以不同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2716.wav",
        "text": "我們代表民意來表示不同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2717.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我看了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2718.wav",
        "text": "促進轉型正義的基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2719.wav",
        "text": "社福這一些我是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2720.wav",
        "text": "實際在執行的預算裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2721.wav",
        "text": "大部分用在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2722.wav",
        "text": "開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2723.wav",
        "text": "戲劇賞析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2724.wav",
        "text": "處理威權象徵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2725.wav",
        "text": "這個應該算是比如像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2726.wav",
        "text": "我們金門要去處理蔣中正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2727.wav",
        "text": "啦已經補助33件尚待處理41件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2728.wav",
        "text": "你們有很多是用在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2729.wav",
        "text": "誠如吳思瑤委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2730.wav",
        "text": "外國是用在照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2731.wav",
        "text": "長照社福後來是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2732.wav",
        "text": "他要求加這一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2733.wav",
        "text": "因為這是他的提案嘛加了這些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2734.wav",
        "text": "這些東西謝謝他的提醒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2735.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這些東西我一定會提案把它刪除"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2736.wav",
        "text": "這倒是真的支持但是我看到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2737.wav",
        "text": "用在長照社福的事實上是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2738.wav",
        "text": "非常的少\n所以我想請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2739.wav",
        "text": "你們這個預算已經用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2740.wav",
        "text": "是依法支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2741.wav",
        "text": "但不表示我們同意你是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2742.wav",
        "text": "你可以用在這個項目但不表示我同意你"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2743.wav",
        "text": "這樣用這是兩件事這個應該"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2744.wav",
        "text": "法律邏輯很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2745.wav",
        "text": "嘛是不是請國發會提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2746.wav",
        "text": "總共一億400多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2747.wav",
        "text": "一億400多萬裡頭有多少比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2748.wav",
        "text": "用在長照跟社福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2749.wav",
        "text": "呢您知道嗎\n可以回答嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2750.wav",
        "text": "有多少比例呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2751.wav",
        "text": "10%20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2752.wav",
        "text": "5%3%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2753.wav",
        "text": "基金怎樣使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2754.wav",
        "text": "呢有資料嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2755.wav",
        "text": "是不是我請我們檔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2756.wav",
        "text": "檔管局說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2757.wav",
        "text": "跟社福的比例是多少陳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2758.wav",
        "text": "想了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2759.wav",
        "text": "因為就像剛剛委員所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2760.wav",
        "text": "部會假如本預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2761.wav",
        "text": "跟所要執行的功能是相同的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2762.wav",
        "text": "在本預算裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2763.wav",
        "text": "原則上是從本預算去編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2764.wav",
        "text": "長照社福這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2765.wav",
        "text": "其實在部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2766.wav",
        "text": "本身的職掌範圍裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2767.wav",
        "text": "它會去編預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2768.wav",
        "text": "所以你們用的很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2769.wav",
        "text": "有多少呢1%2%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2770.wav",
        "text": "或者你不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2771.wav",
        "text": "這個我沒有細算過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2772.wav",
        "text": "你們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2773.wav",
        "text": "來要我們過預算你不知道你預算用到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2774.wav",
        "text": "我要怎麼過你的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2775.wav",
        "text": "他講的是長照跟社福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2776.wav",
        "text": "對我就說你這個一億400多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2777.wav",
        "text": "了你告訴我你用了3%還5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2778.wav",
        "text": "或1,000萬或是2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2779.wav",
        "text": "用在長照社福我想了解一下這個預算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2780.wav",
        "text": "支用是什麼情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2781.wav",
        "text": "我總是要知道你們用到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2782.wav",
        "text": "促轉條例裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2783.wav",
        "text": "有講到基金使用的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2784.wav",
        "text": "我知道範圍你不用回答你告訴我你們現在錢用到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2785.wav",
        "text": "了我剛剛已經看過促轉條例了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2786.wav",
        "text": "包括各部會平復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2787.wav",
        "text": "司法不法行政不法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2788.wav",
        "text": "都不用唸這些我只問你長照跟社福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2789.wav",
        "text": "用了多少錢一億四千萬裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2790.wav",
        "text": "到底用了1,000萬還是2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2791.wav",
        "text": "3,000萬還是5,000萬你告訴我答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2792.wav",
        "text": "不知道沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2793.wav",
        "text": "你不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2794.wav",
        "text": "主席那我們就等到他知道了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2795.wav",
        "text": "他就是不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2796.wav",
        "text": "嘛今天我們要來審這個預算卻不知道他們預算用到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2797.wav",
        "text": "那怎麼說服我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2798.wav",
        "text": "裡面有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2799.wav",
        "text": "對我問用了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2800.wav",
        "text": "用了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2801.wav",
        "text": "這裡面有內政部教育部法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2802.wav",
        "text": "用了多少錢都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2803.wav",
        "text": "是嗎預算用到哪裡去都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2804.wav",
        "text": "這是哪一位是主計嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2805.wav",
        "text": "不是我是檔案局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2806.wav",
        "text": "按照促轉條例都有項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2807.wav",
        "text": "我知道你按照項目用按照法律的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2808.wav",
        "text": "項目用你用到哪裡去嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2809.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2810.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告一下因為我們所提的資料裡面都有列出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2811.wav",
        "text": "各部會所要執行的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2812.wav",
        "text": "項目我有我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2813.wav",
        "text": "是多少錢我們今天在審預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2814.wav",
        "text": "審項目1,000萬2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2815.wav",
        "text": "3,000萬5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2816.wav",
        "text": "那我現在告訴你我們減列8,000萬是非常合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2817.wav",
        "text": "因為你什麼都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2818.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2819.wav",
        "text": "我說預算多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2820.wav",
        "text": "你用了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2821.wav",
        "text": "有關長照的部分你用了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2822.wav",
        "text": "我問他他都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2823.wav",
        "text": "是實際用在社福這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2824.wav",
        "text": "的我沒有去加總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2825.wav",
        "text": "但是內政部的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2826.wav",
        "text": "我就問社福你不用跟我回答內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2827.wav",
        "text": "因為我支持社福跟長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2828.wav",
        "text": "用多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2829.wav",
        "text": "內政部這一塊的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2830.wav",
        "text": "社好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2831.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2832.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2833.wav",
        "text": "你根本沒在看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2834.wav",
        "text": "威權象徵處理這是社福嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2835.wav",
        "text": "你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2836.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重一下陳副局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2837.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重一下陳副局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2838.wav",
        "text": "如果您不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2839.wav",
        "text": "長照用了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2840.wav",
        "text": "有什麼定義這裡都有按照類別依法支出什麼定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2841.wav",
        "text": "用在哪一個項下列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2842.wav",
        "text": "這裡有請看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2843.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有在看內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2844.wav",
        "text": "來你告訴我哪一個是社"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2845.wav",
        "text": "你看不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2846.wav",
        "text": "我看得懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2847.wav",
        "text": "我現在問他他沒辦法回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2848.wav",
        "text": "我就請他回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2849.wav",
        "text": "他在執行的時候不知道怎麼執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2850.wav",
        "text": "他可以這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2851.wav",
        "text": "叫依法執行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2852.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個沒辦法討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2853.wav",
        "text": "我想這個就不要協商了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2854.wav",
        "text": "你用的時候不知道怎麼使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2855.wav",
        "text": "對家屬的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2856.wav",
        "text": "對受難者家屬的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2857.wav",
        "text": "他們在執行預算你問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2858.wav",
        "text": "請問可不可以這樣用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2859.wav",
        "text": "我要問執行單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2860.wav",
        "text": "執行單位告訴我你怎麼用錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2861.wav",
        "text": "用到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2862.wav",
        "text": "用到哪裡你都回答不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2863.wav",
        "text": "每個項目給你錢就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2864.wav",
        "text": "多少錢啊是1,000還是看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2865.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2866.wav",
        "text": "不是用的人不知道怎麼用他簽得下去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2867.wav",
        "text": "耶不知道用在哪一項他簽得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2868.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我所有政府的公務人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2869.wav",
        "text": "員都不知道他錢用在哪一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2870.wav",
        "text": "你不用這樣回答我我問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2871.wav",
        "text": "官員你也不是官員你不是國發會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2872.wav",
        "text": "也不是基金的那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2873.wav",
        "text": "委員我這邊來回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2874.wav",
        "text": "對多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2875.wav",
        "text": "你也不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2876.wav",
        "text": "就舉個例子好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2877.wav",
        "text": "對嘛多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2878.wav",
        "text": "這裡是50"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2879.wav",
        "text": "對你就回答數字給我就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2880.wav",
        "text": "嘛衛福部這可能是算在裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2881.wav",
        "text": "這裡有一個第二點因為用了一二三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2882.wav",
        "text": "在創傷療癒金門馬祖地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2883.wav",
        "text": "是不是創傷療癒工作坊模式50萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2884.wav",
        "text": "對不對是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2885.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是統計以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2886.wav",
        "text": "對所以你們不知道啊主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2887.wav",
        "text": "連自己的錢用到哪裡也都沒有資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2888.wav",
        "text": "隨便問一題都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2889.wav",
        "text": "我現在就是在問他用多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2890.wav",
        "text": "我現在在問啊\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2891.wav",
        "text": "他不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2892.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2893.wav",
        "text": "創傷療癒88.5萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2894.wav",
        "text": "再來政治暴力創傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2895.wav",
        "text": "療癒及照顧服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2896.wav",
        "text": "資訊系統這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2897.wav",
        "text": "再來是政治暴力創傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2898.wav",
        "text": "療癒服務管理中心計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2899.wav",
        "text": "這個部分有98"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2900.wav",
        "text": "萬政治暴力創傷知情教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2901.wav",
        "text": "素材研發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2902.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是92.9萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2903.wav",
        "text": "再來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2904.wav",
        "text": "政治受難者及家屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2905.wav",
        "text": "支持服務據點部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2906.wav",
        "text": "金門馬祖政治暴力創傷療癒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2907.wav",
        "text": "需求及工作模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2908.wav",
        "text": "再來政治受難者及家屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2909.wav",
        "text": "支持服務據點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2910.wav",
        "text": "擴增計畫這個部分是109.8萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2911.wav",
        "text": "再來政治暴力創傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2912.wav",
        "text": "還有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2913.wav",
        "text": "還有幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2914.wav",
        "text": "不是你告訴我全部加起來多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2915.wav",
        "text": "300多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2916.wav",
        "text": "所以占大概我們很具體的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2917.wav",
        "text": "抱歉應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2918.wav",
        "text": "5,020萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2919.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2920.wav",
        "text": "這些東西哪一個算是長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2921.wav",
        "text": "啊都是一些資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2922.wav",
        "text": "工作坊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2923.wav",
        "text": "資訊系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2924.wav",
        "text": "哪一個是長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2925.wav",
        "text": "長照和社福我最在乎了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2926.wav",
        "text": "委員這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2927.wav",
        "text": "喔這部分是社福的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2928.wav",
        "text": "這是可申請的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2929.wav",
        "text": "我知道這叫可申請項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2930.wav",
        "text": "但是要有長照業者來申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2931.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有人來申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2932.wav",
        "text": "我們才會有委員會來核定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2933.wav",
        "text": "至少今年是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2934.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有達到這個效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2935.wav",
        "text": "不這個是依照法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2936.wav",
        "text": "我知道可申請項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2937.wav",
        "text": "跟有沒有來申請是兩件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2938.wav",
        "text": "可以申請項目有這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2939.wav",
        "text": "但是你們說過了剛也提到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2940.wav",
        "text": "我聽得懂就是其他單位都先用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2941.wav",
        "text": "它自己的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2942.wav",
        "text": "像內政部教育部可能都有它的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2943.wav",
        "text": "所以他們可能會先用他們的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2944.wav",
        "text": "再來跟你們申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2945.wav",
        "text": "沒錯吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2946.wav",
        "text": "這更證明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2947.wav",
        "text": "幹嘛需要存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2948.wav",
        "text": "那些單位自己都有公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2949.wav",
        "text": "在使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2950.wav",
        "text": "啊我們應讓預算回歸正軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2951.wav",
        "text": "給政府當作歲入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2952.wav",
        "text": "各個部門應該怎麼用都按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2953.wav",
        "text": "主計的單位去申請去使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2954.wav",
        "text": "回歸正軌使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2955.wav",
        "text": "嘛我不是反對這筆錢進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2956.wav",
        "text": "進來以後就交到政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2957.wav",
        "text": "撥預算進入內政部需要內政部就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2958.wav",
        "text": "法務部需要法務部就撥預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2959.wav",
        "text": "整筆錢就交給政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2960.wav",
        "text": "還有一個時空背景我們是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2961.wav",
        "text": "也說明一下因為長照跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2962.wav",
        "text": "社福這些放進來是今年才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2963.wav",
        "text": "修訂的法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2964.wav",
        "text": "我的建議是這樣的基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2965.wav",
        "text": "與其存在不如把錢整個交給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2966.wav",
        "text": "政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2967.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2968.wav",
        "text": "特別跟各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2969.wav",
        "text": "現在時間已經接近5點半了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2970.wav",
        "text": "我在這裡要跟大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2971.wav",
        "text": "報告一下今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2972.wav",
        "text": "我們現在停留在第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2973.wav",
        "text": "38案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2974.wav",
        "text": "然後我們就暫時告一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2975.wav",
        "text": "落明天我們繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2976.wav",
        "text": "時間在下午1點到2點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2977.wav",
        "text": "我們在本會議室進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2978.wav",
        "text": "第二也是很重要的一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2979.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告一下明天司法院大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2980.wav",
        "text": "的全院委員會最後一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2981.wav",
        "text": "有關之前我們大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2982.wav",
        "text": "同意權的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2983.wav",
        "text": "有提到各黨團的書面詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2984.wav",
        "text": "在彙總之後由被提名人答復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2985.wav",
        "text": "這些書面詢問及答復資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2986.wav",
        "text": "我們就列入公報紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2987.wav",
        "text": "請問各黨的幹部能接受嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2988.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見我們就這樣處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2989.wav",
        "text": "陳主計長還有陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2990.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2991.wav",
        "text": "明天下午1點鐘我們就在本會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2992.wav",
        "text": "繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16360/2993.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家祝福大家晚安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/0.wav",
        "text": "各位列席的黨團幹部以及所有列席的各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝大家今天來到立法院一起來參與我們的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2.wav",
        "text": "首先要介紹今天列席的各位部長及各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/3.wav",
        "text": "還有各位列席官員熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/4.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/5.wav",
        "text": "今天我們協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/6.wav",
        "text": "的第一案是研商證券交易稅條例第2條之2及第十二條條文修正草案等案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/7.wav",
        "text": "包括財政委員會併案審查完成的10案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/8.wav",
        "text": "以及院會逕付二讀郭國文委員等17位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/9.wav",
        "text": "擬具證券交易稅條例第2條之2條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/10.wav",
        "text": "本案經財政委員會於113年10月30日完成審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/11.wav",
        "text": "其中第2條之2及第十六條條文均予保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/12.wav",
        "text": "送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/13.wav",
        "text": "另外在113年11月18日由賴召委惠員召開的朝野黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/14.wav",
        "text": "並沒有獲得共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/15.wav",
        "text": "\n本席在這裡要特別跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/16.wav",
        "text": "有關當沖交易的證交稅減半課徵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/17.wav",
        "text": "將於今年底屆滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/18.wav",
        "text": "是否能夠再繼續延長減半課稅的施行期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/19.wav",
        "text": "以及延長時間有多久多長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/20.wav",
        "text": "要請各黨團幹部及政府官員分別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/21.wav",
        "text": "就本次所協商主題來表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/22.wav",
        "text": "\n首先我們請莊部長跟彭主委先表達一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/23.wav",
        "text": "大家午安大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/24.wav",
        "text": "有關這次證交稅條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/25.wav",
        "text": "我們提出來的修正最重要的是第2條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/26.wav",
        "text": "第2條之2就是對於當沖降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/27.wav",
        "text": "現行的證交稅是千分之三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/28.wav",
        "text": "五因為這個降稅措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/29.wav",
        "text": "到今年底就屆期了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/30.wav",
        "text": "我們就跟金管會做密切的交流以及討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/31.wav",
        "text": "我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/32.wav",
        "text": "當沖降稅自106年實施以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/33.wav",
        "text": "真的有效提升了市場的成交量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/34.wav",
        "text": "並且也降低了投資人的交易成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/35.wav",
        "text": "受到國際政治還有經濟情勢變動的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/36.wav",
        "text": "是容易受到這樣一個影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/37.wav",
        "text": "為了繼續維持證券市場交易的動能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/38.wav",
        "text": "以及促進市場穩定發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/39.wav",
        "text": "及降低一些不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/40.wav",
        "text": "對於當沖降稅的部分宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/41.wav",
        "text": "再延長3年到116年12月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/42.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是我們院版提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/43.wav",
        "text": "我們也提出第十二條的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/44.wav",
        "text": "在繳款通知書裡的繳納內容增"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/45.wav",
        "text": "行政程序法裡面已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/46.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/47.wav",
        "text": "就回歸到行政程序法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/48.wav",
        "text": "因此就刪除第二項跟第三項的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/49.wav",
        "text": "\n以上是院版主要提出的修正內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/50.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝莊部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/51.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/52.wav",
        "text": "剛才財政部已經表達它的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/53.wav",
        "text": "也就是行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/54.wav",
        "text": "我們在今天的協商裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/55.wav",
        "text": "當然各位也看到本黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/56.wav",
        "text": "本黨委員有李坤城委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/57.wav",
        "text": "民進黨全部支持行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/58.wav",
        "text": "我們就是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/59.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/60.wav",
        "text": "希望大家能夠把這個事情趕快完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/61.wav",
        "text": "\n尤其現在股市到年底了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/62.wav",
        "text": "所有投資人都在看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/63.wav",
        "text": "會不會延期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/64.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天就相對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/65.wav",
        "text": "這樣就很單純"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/66.wav",
        "text": "讓此案能夠趕快在禮拜五就把它三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/67.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很重大的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/68.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/69.wav",
        "text": "民進黨所有的版本已經彙整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/70.wav",
        "text": "全部支持行政院版本3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/71.wav",
        "text": "接下來請國民黨團表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/72.wav",
        "text": "增加國家的稅收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/73.wav",
        "text": "我想我們都一定是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/74.wav",
        "text": "尤其讓股市的交易量能夠增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/75.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的稅收能夠更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/76.wav",
        "text": "本黨絕對是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/77.wav",
        "text": "但是就是我們這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/78.wav",
        "text": "要延長為3年或者5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/79.wav",
        "text": "行政院版是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/80.wav",
        "text": "當然也有委員的版本是5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/81.wav",
        "text": "我想這部分可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/82.wav",
        "text": "到底要3年5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/83.wav",
        "text": "如果大家都形成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/84.wav",
        "text": "我們是都可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/85.wav",
        "text": "謝謝國民黨團的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/86.wav",
        "text": "接下來請台灣民眾黨團請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/87.wav",
        "text": "各財政委員會的請稍待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/88.wav",
        "text": "我們先請黨團幹部表達意見之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/89.wav",
        "text": "再請各位列席的財政委員會的委員表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/90.wav",
        "text": "請黃珊珊委員請表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/91.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/92.wav",
        "text": "我想台灣民眾黨就這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/93.wav",
        "text": "我們有提修正版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/94.wav",
        "text": "主要是因為行政院為提升台股的動能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/95.wav",
        "text": "在106年就開始實施了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/96.wav",
        "text": "刺激了股市的交易量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/97.wav",
        "text": "而且增加了流通性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/98.wav",
        "text": "也有創造政府證交稅的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/99.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個還不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/100.wav",
        "text": "而且狀況也很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/101.wav",
        "text": "但是現在已經變成有點像7年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/102.wav",
        "text": "就將近快10年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/103.wav",
        "text": "如果這個減稅政策是政府的政策的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/104.wav",
        "text": "那是不是也有一說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/105.wav",
        "text": "就是直接常態化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/106.wav",
        "text": "他們的理由就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/107.wav",
        "text": "因為要刺激股市交易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/108.wav",
        "text": "那你是不是將來3年以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/109.wav",
        "text": "又要再來一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/110.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/111.wav",
        "text": "當時為什麼會保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/112.wav",
        "text": "主要就是我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/113.wav",
        "text": "金管會也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/114.wav",
        "text": "財政部也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/115.wav",
        "text": "應該針對延長調降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/116.wav",
        "text": "當日沖銷的交易稅的執行效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/117.wav",
        "text": "要進行評估的指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/118.wav",
        "text": "還有受惠對象的分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/119.wav",
        "text": "這些相關的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/120.wav",
        "text": "而不是每三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/121.wav",
        "text": "就跑過來講一次說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/122.wav",
        "text": "什麼的政策要有政策的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/123.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/124.wav",
        "text": "但是我們本來是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/125.wav",
        "text": "是不是第四年第五年可以遞減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/126.wav",
        "text": "最差最差就是你將來不要就停了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/127.wav",
        "text": "可是現在變成是每三年要來一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/128.wav",
        "text": "那這3年一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/129.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該要訂出一個指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/130.wav",
        "text": "還有政策的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/131.wav",
        "text": "你要建立一個評估的指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/132.wav",
        "text": "跟受惠對象的分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/133.wav",
        "text": "因為很多人都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/134.wav",
        "text": "這個大部分都是外資受惠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/135.wav",
        "text": "惠更何況是3年以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/136.wav",
        "text": "期望達成的目標值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/137.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的立場就是年限可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/138.wav",
        "text": "但是一定要提出你的目標是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/139.wav",
        "text": "你的指標是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/140.wav",
        "text": "3年後會長什麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/141.wav",
        "text": "如果認為這是一個重要的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/142.wav",
        "text": "將來這個優惠是不是會鈍化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/143.wav",
        "text": "\n因為每三年都會來一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/144.wav",
        "text": "所以大概也沒有什麼刺激的效果了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/145.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/146.wav",
        "text": "委員李坤城委員跟羅明才委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/147.wav",
        "text": "你們3位提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/148.wav",
        "text": "等一下你們3位個別發言一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/149.wav",
        "text": "我們請柯總召二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/150.wav",
        "text": "我剛才聽了黃珊珊委員的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/151.wav",
        "text": "你們變成兩個極端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/152.wav",
        "text": "逐年降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/153.wav",
        "text": "這是一個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/154.wav",
        "text": "但你現在又說要常態化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/155.wav",
        "text": "我們要先去釐清是哪一個那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/156.wav",
        "text": "那是財政部要回答的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/157.wav",
        "text": "你到底要常態化還是要什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/158.wav",
        "text": "你要說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/159.wav",
        "text": "不是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/160.wav",
        "text": "送來一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/161.wav",
        "text": "你聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/162.wav",
        "text": "你的提案一個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/163.wav",
        "text": "那以後就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/164.wav",
        "text": "它越來越少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/165.wav",
        "text": "這是一個政策性選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/166.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/167.wav",
        "text": "常態化也是一個政策選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/168.wav",
        "text": "那你同時講兩邊的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/169.wav",
        "text": "我不知道要跟你哪一邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/170.wav",
        "text": "啦我現在是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/171.wav",
        "text": "你到底是要哪一邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/172.wav",
        "text": "我是說那是財政部要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/173.wav",
        "text": "我先尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/174.wav",
        "text": "你如果說要常態化才有所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/175.wav",
        "text": "這個評估指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/176.wav",
        "text": "受惠對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/177.wav",
        "text": "嘛假如這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/178.wav",
        "text": "應該就是說你贊成延嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/179.wav",
        "text": "嘛這個時候對象評估指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/180.wav",
        "text": "是不是只有外資還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/181.wav",
        "text": "或法人等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/182.wav",
        "text": "我們先把原點講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/183.wav",
        "text": "應該是贊成延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/184.wav",
        "text": "然後要不要常態化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/185.wav",
        "text": "那你再寫一個附帶決議就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/186.wav",
        "text": "我是這樣建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/187.wav",
        "text": "啦因為我們的意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/188.wav",
        "text": "所有股民都在等待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/189.wav",
        "text": "年底到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/190.wav",
        "text": "嘛大概是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/191.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/192.wav",
        "text": "接下來李坤城委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/193.wav",
        "text": "羅明才委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/194.wav",
        "text": "好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/195.wav",
        "text": "羅明才委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/196.wav",
        "text": "然後林楚茵委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/197.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/198.wav",
        "text": "大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/199.wav",
        "text": "我最重要的是支持整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/200.wav",
        "text": "股市交易市場的穩定發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/201.wav",
        "text": "所以我當初是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/202.wav",
        "text": "金管會的彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/203.wav",
        "text": "他提出了5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/204.wav",
        "text": "所以也是因為這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/205.wav",
        "text": "5年開始推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/206.wav",
        "text": "結果想不到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/207.wav",
        "text": "我怎麼突然又被做掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/208.wav",
        "text": "變成3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/209.wav",
        "text": "但是沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/210.wav",
        "text": "不論是3年5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/211.wav",
        "text": "市場其實都很期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/212.wav",
        "text": "我們可以看最近的成交量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/213.wav",
        "text": "今天都萎縮到300多億了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/214.wav",
        "text": "正常量日均量應該在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/215.wav",
        "text": "而且12月就快到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/216.wav",
        "text": "所以本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/217.wav",
        "text": "雖然有提案是5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/218.wav",
        "text": "如果說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/219.wav",
        "text": "大家我也要讓它先求有再求好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/220.wav",
        "text": "特別是柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/221.wav",
        "text": "今天第一天復出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/222.wav",
        "text": "我就送給他一個大禮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/223.wav",
        "text": "我不堅持5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/224.wav",
        "text": "要3年我也OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/225.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/226.wav",
        "text": "謝謝羅明才委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/227.wav",
        "text": "發言請林楚茵委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/228.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/229.wav",
        "text": "我想echo一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/230.wav",
        "text": "我們的羅明才委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/231.wav",
        "text": "因為當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/232.wav",
        "text": "在委員會的朝野協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/233.wav",
        "text": "我羅明才委員還有珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/234.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都有在朝野協商而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/235.wav",
        "text": "而我的版本是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/236.wav",
        "text": "我們知道主席為什麼會排定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/237.wav",
        "text": "距離這個目前如果不修法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/238.wav",
        "text": "只剩下15個交易日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/239.wav",
        "text": "其實現在市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/240.wav",
        "text": "是我們要延長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/241.wav",
        "text": "那麼又在交易量萎縮的情況底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/242.wav",
        "text": "為了不讓股市動盪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/243.wav",
        "text": "我想今天朝野協商一個好的開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/244.wav",
        "text": "就是不論是珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/245.wav",
        "text": "這邊的民眾黨版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/246.wav",
        "text": "或者是剛剛羅委員已經講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/247.wav",
        "text": "國民黨也會不堅持的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/248.wav",
        "text": "那我們是不是就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/249.wav",
        "text": "可以以3年的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/250.wav",
        "text": "我們也都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/251.wav",
        "text": "未來該怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/252.wav",
        "text": "其實我們還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/253.wav",
        "text": "至少我們先讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/254.wav",
        "text": "暫行的在12月31號之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/255.wav",
        "text": "有一個新的版本可以通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/256.wav",
        "text": "讓股市可以穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/257.wav",
        "text": "那麼接下來要討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/258.wav",
        "text": "是到底要不要變成是5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/259.wav",
        "text": "或者是珊珊版本的民眾黨的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/260.wav",
        "text": "它不是一個政治問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/261.wav",
        "text": "它是一個專業問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/262.wav",
        "text": "我們可以在後續再提一次修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/263.wav",
        "text": "但是至少我們今天達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/264.wav",
        "text": "可以穩定股市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/265.wav",
        "text": "也不會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/266.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的股票市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/267.wav",
        "text": "會因為這麼簡單的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/268.wav",
        "text": "而有動盪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/269.wav",
        "text": "所以當然也就懇請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/270.wav",
        "text": "另外兩個黨團能夠支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/271.wav",
        "text": "3年的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/272.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/273.wav",
        "text": "請莊部長彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/274.wav",
        "text": "分別簡單扼要來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/275.wav",
        "text": "因為大家有一些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/276.wav",
        "text": "麻煩您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/277.wav",
        "text": "請莊部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/278.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/279.wav",
        "text": "我想當沖降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/280.wav",
        "text": "基本上是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/281.wav",
        "text": "根據納稅者權利保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/282.wav",
        "text": "它必須要有一個期限的訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/283.wav",
        "text": "而這個期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/284.wav",
        "text": "我們也跟金管會有做過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/285.wav",
        "text": "我們認為3年是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/286.wav",
        "text": "妥當的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/287.wav",
        "text": "因為股票市場基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/288.wav",
        "text": "容易受到國際政治經濟情勢的變化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/289.wav",
        "text": "如果即將屆期之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/290.wav",
        "text": "我們其實可以進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/291.wav",
        "text": "然後來做一些因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/292.wav",
        "text": "我們認為5年可能會有一些過長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/293.wav",
        "text": "而且過往我們之前的當沖降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/294.wav",
        "text": "第一次是1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/295.wav",
        "text": "第二次是3年8個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/296.wav",
        "text": "最主要是要切到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/297.wav",
        "text": "第三次也是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/298.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為3年是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/299.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/300.wav",
        "text": "是主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/301.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有關莊部長談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/302.wav",
        "text": "金管會都支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/303.wav",
        "text": "剛剛羅委員有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/304.wav",
        "text": "我們有提送一個意見給財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/305.wav",
        "text": "當時我們是建議5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/306.wav",
        "text": "不過這個租稅的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/307.wav",
        "text": "是由財政部來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/308.wav",
        "text": "大家也同意3年是行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/309.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/310.wav",
        "text": "這個是非常恰當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/311.wav",
        "text": "再來就是在金管會的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/312.wav",
        "text": "我們比較在意的是交易的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/313.wav",
        "text": "還有未來的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/314.wav",
        "text": "我想這個政策對這三項要素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/315.wav",
        "text": "都還滿重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/316.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/317.wav",
        "text": "各位委員能夠支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/318.wav",
        "text": "我們3年這個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/319.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/320.wav",
        "text": "法務部列席的林參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/321.wav",
        "text": "您有寶貴意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/322.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/323.wav",
        "text": "二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/324.wav",
        "text": "柯總召講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/325.wav",
        "text": "我再講一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/326.wav",
        "text": "我們其實不太清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/327.wav",
        "text": "財政部跟金管會他們的政策目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/328.wav",
        "text": "所以我才要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/329.wav",
        "text": "到底是要常態化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/330.wav",
        "text": "還是要每3年送一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/331.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/332.wav",
        "text": "對於年限我們也是支持這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/333.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的版本才會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/334.wav",
        "text": "還是一樣延長3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/335.wav",
        "text": "只是說要不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/336.wav",
        "text": "45年遞減而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/337.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們原來修法的立意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/338.wav",
        "text": "目標清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/339.wav",
        "text": "你才知道接下去要做的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/340.wav",
        "text": "所以如果大家都同意3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/341.wav",
        "text": "那也不要耽誤大家時間的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/342.wav",
        "text": "我們今天有準備一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/343.wav",
        "text": "就是要請金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/344.wav",
        "text": "針對延長調降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/345.wav",
        "text": "當日沖銷交易稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/346.wav",
        "text": "執行效果建立評估指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/347.wav",
        "text": "還有受惠對象的分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/348.wav",
        "text": "還要訂立3年後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/349.wav",
        "text": "期望達成的政策目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/350.wav",
        "text": "確保國家稅賦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/351.wav",
        "text": "優惠的公平性還有有效性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/352.wav",
        "text": "用這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/353.wav",
        "text": "至少讓他知道這3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/354.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/355.wav",
        "text": "未來目標是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/356.wav",
        "text": "而且3年後會是什麼樣的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/357.wav",
        "text": "如果這個政策目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/358.wav",
        "text": "已經是常態化成為一個常態了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/359.wav",
        "text": "那將來的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/360.wav",
        "text": "是不是就把它常態化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/361.wav",
        "text": "而不是每3年送一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/362.wav",
        "text": "大家為什麼要每3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/363.wav",
        "text": "來討論一次這種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/364.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/365.wav",
        "text": "當然政策方向是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/366.wav",
        "text": "金管會當然希望長一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/367.wav",
        "text": "財政部基於稅收希望少一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/368.wav",
        "text": "那變成是一個妥協的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/369.wav",
        "text": "我們沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/370.wav",
        "text": "還是要說得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/371.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望用附帶決議的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/372.wav",
        "text": "不知道其他黨團可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/373.wav",
        "text": "支持我們提供給大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/374.wav",
        "text": "好嗎謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/375.wav",
        "text": "好麻煩請黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/376.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/377.wav",
        "text": "剛才還沒講以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/378.wav",
        "text": "我就講過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/379.wav",
        "text": "因為我聽他講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/380.wav",
        "text": "知道這是一個專業評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/381.wav",
        "text": "我以前也當過證券公司董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/382.wav",
        "text": "就是在還沒當立委以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/383.wav",
        "text": "所以我一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/384.wav",
        "text": "以前是業界人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/385.wav",
        "text": "但我從來不玩股票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/386.wav",
        "text": "我很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/387.wav",
        "text": "誰受益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/388.wav",
        "text": "但是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/389.wav",
        "text": "大家都會使用AI了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/390.wav",
        "text": "知識落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/391.wav",
        "text": "工具落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/392.wav",
        "text": "所以受益會集中在法人和外資上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/393.wav",
        "text": "現在大概誰都很清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/394.wav",
        "text": "這個附帶決議我完全贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/395.wav",
        "text": "我想大家也會贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/396.wav",
        "text": "現在比較關鍵的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/397.wav",
        "text": "今天我看大家一團和氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/398.wav",
        "text": "很感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/399.wav",
        "text": "羅明才委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/400.wav",
        "text": "說要給我當作禮物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/401.wav",
        "text": "這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/402.wav",
        "text": "假的也沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/403.wav",
        "text": "啦反正就是appreciate"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/404.wav",
        "text": "這個排入禮拜五的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/405.wav",
        "text": "事項前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/406.wav",
        "text": "把它宣讀過去就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/407.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/408.wav",
        "text": "大家都在看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/409.wav",
        "text": "年底要到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/410.wav",
        "text": "了什麼時候要三讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/411.wav",
        "text": "這禮拜五就把它處理掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/412.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/413.wav",
        "text": "都講完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/414.wav",
        "text": "我要對禮拜五的議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/415.wav",
        "text": "會再做一番建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/416.wav",
        "text": "學長的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/417.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會騙你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/418.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五應該怎麼樣所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/419.wav",
        "text": "有法案應該怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/420.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們再一起討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/421.wav",
        "text": "但這個先放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/422.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/423.wav",
        "text": "是不是都已經拿到手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/424.wav",
        "text": "對也請行政部門看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/425.wav",
        "text": "院長我們再表達一下意見好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/426.wav",
        "text": "院長我們做個結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/427.wav",
        "text": "請林是感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/428.wav",
        "text": "感謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/429.wav",
        "text": "這個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/430.wav",
        "text": "當然就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/431.wav",
        "text": "提升我們證券交易市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/432.wav",
        "text": "的整個能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/433.wav",
        "text": "還有它的流動性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/434.wav",
        "text": "來增加我們財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/435.wav",
        "text": "因為交易量的增大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/436.wav",
        "text": "降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/437.wav",
        "text": "少收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/438.wav",
        "text": "不會有這個因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/439.wav",
        "text": "其實就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/440.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的股市能夠穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/441.wav",
        "text": "降低我們證券市場的不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/442.wav",
        "text": "所以我想這個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/443.wav",
        "text": "我們當然是敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/444.wav",
        "text": "剛才各位是說要3年或5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/445.wav",
        "text": "大家是贊成3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/446.wav",
        "text": "所以我想本黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/447.wav",
        "text": "我們也不再那麼堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/448.wav",
        "text": "若是3年我們也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/449.wav",
        "text": "我想這部分我們要再仔細討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/450.wav",
        "text": "我們再討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/451.wav",
        "text": "我們傅總召有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/452.wav",
        "text": "我們的首傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/453.wav",
        "text": "我們都要跟他們討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/454.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/455.wav",
        "text": "和金管會都有拿到我們的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/456.wav",
        "text": "嗎財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/457.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有其他的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/458.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/459.wav",
        "text": "金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/460.wav",
        "text": "我們同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/461.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/462.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議黨團這邊OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/463.wav",
        "text": "行政部門也覺得OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/464.wav",
        "text": "所以大家可以來簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/465.wav",
        "text": "但也提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/466.wav",
        "text": "就是跟思銘委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/467.wav",
        "text": "因為我們都希望這是一個好的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/468.wav",
        "text": "對於股市的活絡跟穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/469.wav",
        "text": "有正向的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/470.wav",
        "text": "年底就到了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/471.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/472.wav",
        "text": "如果二三讀之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/473.wav",
        "text": "還要再送總統公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/474.wav",
        "text": "它還有作業時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/475.wav",
        "text": "所以如果這週五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/476.wav",
        "text": "就能夠處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/477.wav",
        "text": "事實上年底大家都獲得一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/478.wav",
        "text": "很好的禮物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/479.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/480.wav",
        "text": "否則過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/481.wav",
        "text": "但只因為院會排案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/482.wav",
        "text": "又放到後面去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/483.wav",
        "text": "我想民生的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/484.wav",
        "text": "有正當性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/485.wav",
        "text": "有各黨朝野共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/486.wav",
        "text": "我們就優先排在議程的前頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/487.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣是非常合宜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/488.wav",
        "text": "大家都在等這個好的消息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/489.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/490.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/491.wav",
        "text": "我們請議事人員宣讀一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/492.wav",
        "text": "鑑於行政院為提升台股動能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/493.wav",
        "text": "於106年起實施當沖交易降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/494.wav",
        "text": "不可否認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/495.wav",
        "text": "當沖減稅確有刺激股市交易量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/496.wav",
        "text": "增加流通性之作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/497.wav",
        "text": "並有創造政府證券交易稅收增加之效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/498.wav",
        "text": "\n惟該租稅優惠政策多遭外界質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/499.wav",
        "text": "減稅政策形同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/500.wav",
        "text": "政府鼓勵短期投機交易行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/501.wav",
        "text": "且降稅刺激效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/502.wav",
        "text": "有可能因為降稅常態化而鈍化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/503.wav",
        "text": "若將來面對股市緊急狀況時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/504.wav",
        "text": "國家反而喪失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/505.wav",
        "text": "可以調控之刺激性政策工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/506.wav",
        "text": "\n爰請金融監督管理委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/507.wav",
        "text": "針對延長調降當日沖銷交易稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/508.wav",
        "text": "執行效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/509.wav",
        "text": "建立評估指標及受惠對象分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/510.wav",
        "text": "並明訂三年後期望達成之目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/511.wav",
        "text": "以確保國家給予稅賦優惠之公平性及有效性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/512.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有好如果對第十六條條文大家沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/513.wav",
        "text": "我們就不予修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/514.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/515.wav",
        "text": "好不予修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/516.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/517.wav",
        "text": "今天的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/518.wav",
        "text": "請大家看一下我來唸\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/519.wav",
        "text": "時間113年12月10日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/520.wav",
        "text": "（星期二）下午2時30分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/521.wav",
        "text": "本院財政委員會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/522.wav",
        "text": "併案審查行政院函請審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/523.wav",
        "text": "委員賴士葆等25位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/524.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/525.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例第2條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/526.wav",
        "text": "及第十二條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/527.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/528.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例部分條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/529.wav",
        "text": "羅明才等20位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/530.wav",
        "text": "林楚茵等19位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/531.wav",
        "text": "李坤城等22位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/532.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/533.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例第2條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/534.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/535.wav",
        "text": "及邱志偉等19位委員擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/536.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/537.wav",
        "text": "\n二院會逕付二讀併案協商委員郭國文等17位擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/538.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例第2條之2條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/539.wav",
        "text": "案\n協商結論一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/540.wav",
        "text": "第2條之2條文照行政院提案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/541.wav",
        "text": "二第十六條條文維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/542.wav",
        "text": "\n三其餘均照審查會審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/543.wav",
        "text": "\n四新增附帶決議1項如附件\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/544.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/545.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/546.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見好我已經簽字請各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/547.wav",
        "text": "麻煩大家依序簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/548.wav",
        "text": "\n謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/549.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在研商地方稅法通則第4條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/550.wav",
        "text": "由國民黨黨團提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/551.wav",
        "text": "我們研商的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/552.wav",
        "text": "現在發到各位手上沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/553.wav",
        "text": "地方稅法通則啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/554.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/555.wav",
        "text": "幹部現在列席的一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/556.wav",
        "text": "是財政部的莊部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/557.wav",
        "text": "還有行政院主計總處的李視察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/558.wav",
        "text": "內政部的劉專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/559.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/560.wav",
        "text": "經濟部的賴副主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/561.wav",
        "text": "法務部林參事請坐\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/562.wav",
        "text": "我們現在研商的主題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/563.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆等22位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/564.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁等20位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/565.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具地方稅法通則第4條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/566.wav",
        "text": "修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/567.wav",
        "text": "本案經財政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/568.wav",
        "text": "113年5月6日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/569.wav",
        "text": "會同內政委員會舉行第11屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/570.wav",
        "text": "第1會期財政內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/571.wav",
        "text": "第1次聯席會議進行審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/572.wav",
        "text": "審查結果全案保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/573.wav",
        "text": "另外於113年12月3日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/574.wav",
        "text": "由陳玉珍委員召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/575.wav",
        "text": "召開朝野黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/576.wav",
        "text": "並沒有達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/577.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在要請各黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/578.wav",
        "text": "列席的莊部長以及各位列席的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/579.wav",
        "text": "分別就本次協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/580.wav",
        "text": "地方稅法通則第4條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/581.wav",
        "text": "請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/582.wav",
        "text": "這個案子是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/583.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/584.wav",
        "text": "提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/585.wav",
        "text": "委員會的朝野協商也是陳玉珍召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/586.wav",
        "text": "這是委員個人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/587.wav",
        "text": "當然等一下我們要講內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/588.wav",
        "text": "大家要不要支持等等都可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/589.wav",
        "text": "既然這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/590.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/591.wav",
        "text": "當然這是為了花蓮縣政府的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/592.wav",
        "text": "這個案子已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/593.wav",
        "text": "很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/594.wav",
        "text": "但是要有一個很明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/595.wav",
        "text": "文字處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/596.wav",
        "text": "以後大家才不會犯錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/597.wav",
        "text": "立法委員叫廖學廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/598.wav",
        "text": "廖學廣去收鎮長稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/599.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/600.wav",
        "text": "圖利公庫的事情了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/601.wav",
        "text": "那是圖利公庫收的稅金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/602.wav",
        "text": "用在地方建設上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/603.wav",
        "text": "花蓮亦復如此傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/604.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁去收採礦稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/605.wav",
        "text": "稅額比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/606.wav",
        "text": "被課稅的礦場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/607.wav",
        "text": "有不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/608.wav",
        "text": "打過行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/609.wav",
        "text": "\n但是我們在這裡要談的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/610.wav",
        "text": "既然是國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/611.wav",
        "text": "說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/612.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/613.wav",
        "text": "接下來請國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/614.wav",
        "text": "陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/615.wav",
        "text": "這個在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/616.wav",
        "text": "委員會我主持討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/617.wav",
        "text": "財政部的口頭表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/618.wav",
        "text": "是對修法沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/619.wav",
        "text": "換句話說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/620.wav",
        "text": "行政部門是沒有反對意見的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/621.wav",
        "text": "認為還要討論所以才交付協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/622.wav",
        "text": "至於剛剛柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/623.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團裡頭說的這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/624.wav",
        "text": "什麼為個案修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/625.wav",
        "text": "訴訟中的兩造當事人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/626.wav",
        "text": "我提出這個最新的新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/627.wav",
        "text": "我想你們可能沒有瞭解這個最新的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/628.wav",
        "text": "就在您所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/629.wav",
        "text": "這個花蓮縣政府與業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/630.wav",
        "text": "之間的訴訟當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/631.wav",
        "text": "事實上在法院裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/632.wav",
        "text": "礦石稅的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/633.wav",
        "text": "所以我們事實上真正的目的是要讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/634.wav",
        "text": "所有的東西制度化提出這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/635.wav",
        "text": "修法讓整個法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/636.wav",
        "text": "更為完善請民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/637.wav",
        "text": "支持謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/638.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/639.wav",
        "text": "黨團針對本案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/640.wav",
        "text": "有寶貴意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/641.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話就稍待一下我們請蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/642.wav",
        "text": "總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/643.wav",
        "text": "及陳玉珍委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/644.wav",
        "text": "在於花蓮是不是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/645.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個訴訟這個訴訟的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/646.wav",
        "text": "以及是否和解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/647.wav",
        "text": "是新聞所以我想有一些細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/648.wav",
        "text": "是不是請財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/649.wav",
        "text": "把當時訴訟的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/650.wav",
        "text": "以及訴訟中財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/651.wav",
        "text": "所掌握的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/652.wav",
        "text": "我們再來做判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/653.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/654.wav",
        "text": "我稍微"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/655.wav",
        "text": "這一次是傅崐萁委員跟賴士葆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/656.wav",
        "text": "這個最後一項其實文字並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/657.wav",
        "text": "太大的問題但它有兩個小問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/658.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是在立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/659.wav",
        "text": "例上面比較少這樣規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/660.wav",
        "text": "跟柯總召都有提到的因為它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/661.wav",
        "text": "本來有一個個案的存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/662.wav",
        "text": "這個個案是在今年的4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/663.wav",
        "text": "吧我不記得確切的日期總之是和解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/664.wav",
        "text": "但因為其實它有一個歷史脈絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/665.wav",
        "text": "在我大學剛畢業的時候開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/666.wav",
        "text": "有礦石稅本來一噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/667.wav",
        "text": "五點二然後我記得是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/668.wav",
        "text": "民國101年時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/669.wav",
        "text": "又改成10塊錢但因為在它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/670.wav",
        "text": "年限還沒到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/671.wav",
        "text": "年到期結果在105年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/672.wav",
        "text": "花蓮縣政府把它改成7倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/673.wav",
        "text": "──70元所以才會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/674.wav",
        "text": "有這個訴訟所以它整個的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/675.wav",
        "text": "完全就是因為這個個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/676.wav",
        "text": "我覺得要制度化也沒有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/677.wav",
        "text": "很容易讓別人覺得就是這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/678.wav",
        "text": "就是當時著名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/679.wav",
        "text": "花蓮縣政府那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/680.wav",
        "text": "縣長是誰我已經忘了但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/681.wav",
        "text": "總之當時就是因為這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/682.wav",
        "text": "你這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/683.wav",
        "text": "大逆不差一點想不起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/684.wav",
        "text": "沒有從10元直接變70元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/685.wav",
        "text": "這個7倍的過程而有爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/686.wav",
        "text": "因為這個爭議會有倍數上的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/687.wav",
        "text": "所以這次才會有到底有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/688.wav",
        "text": "百分之多少等等之類的這個爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/689.wav",
        "text": "產生所以我想說先補一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/690.wav",
        "text": "當時有這樣的一個歷史脈絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/691.wav",
        "text": "但是不管它有沒有這個情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/692.wav",
        "text": "是會讓別人覺得可能有個案的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/693.wav",
        "text": "但是其實在文字上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/694.wav",
        "text": "看起來是正常的所以我想說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/695.wav",
        "text": "是不是請財政部也回應針對從這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/696.wav",
        "text": "訴訟一直到現在還有他們的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/697.wav",
        "text": "我們再請柯總召發言請莊部長您稍待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/698.wav",
        "text": "等柯總召發言完以後\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/699.wav",
        "text": "好我們次序調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/700.wav",
        "text": "柯總召發言完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/701.wav",
        "text": "以後黃珊珊委員發言然後再請莊部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/702.wav",
        "text": "這案子我知之甚詳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/703.wav",
        "text": "因為整個歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/704.wav",
        "text": "第3屆的鎮長稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/705.wav",
        "text": "被判18年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/706.wav",
        "text": "所以他選舉的時候弄一個海報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/707.wav",
        "text": "廖學廣自己關在牢籠裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/708.wav",
        "text": "後來他被判無罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/709.wav",
        "text": "因為以前有圖利公庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/710.wav",
        "text": "所以這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/711.wav",
        "text": "要講清楚就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/712.wav",
        "text": "忠以前被抓去關就是圖利公庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/713.wav",
        "text": "圖利國家也會關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/714.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/715.wav",
        "text": "前新竹市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/716.wav",
        "text": "好對陳玉珍所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/717.wav",
        "text": "和解我們真的要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/718.wav",
        "text": "不算是輸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/719.wav",
        "text": "高行最高行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/720.wav",
        "text": "最多30%你把它一次課7倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/721.wav",
        "text": "所以當然輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/722.wav",
        "text": "嘛法理上不能這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/723.wav",
        "text": "輸了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/724.wav",
        "text": "一審輸二審也輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/725.wav",
        "text": "高行最高行都輸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/726.wav",
        "text": "所以和解就是花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/727.wav",
        "text": "蓮縣政府同意把多收的兩億多還給人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/728.wav",
        "text": "家所以沒有所謂的和解問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/729.wav",
        "text": "是敗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/730.wav",
        "text": "家就是這樣一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/731.wav",
        "text": "請財政部說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/732.wav",
        "text": "要把未來他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/733.wav",
        "text": "這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/734.wav",
        "text": "說清楚也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/735.wav",
        "text": "請吳春城"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/736.wav",
        "text": "員發言財政部請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/737.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/738.wav",
        "text": "針對這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/739.wav",
        "text": "財政部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/740.wav",
        "text": "財政部表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/741.wav",
        "text": "委員會的提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/742.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/743.wav",
        "text": "行政單位的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/744.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/745.wav",
        "text": "我補充一下就是我們在財委會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/746.wav",
        "text": "他們有提出說他們尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/747.wav",
        "text": "委員會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/748.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得很奇怪今天聽起來好像又不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/749.wav",
        "text": "了解麻煩請財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/750.wav",
        "text": "莊部長請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/751.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長我想剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/752.wav",
        "text": "諸位委員有提到個案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/753.wav",
        "text": "是不是由我們宋署長來做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/754.wav",
        "text": "敘述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/755.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/756.wav",
        "text": "花蓮縣礦石稅的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/757.wav",
        "text": "訴訟大概可以分成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/758.wav",
        "text": "105年的自治條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/759.wav",
        "text": "109年跟112年大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/760.wav",
        "text": "有3年的自治條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/761.wav",
        "text": "105年的部分一共有8期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/762.wav",
        "text": "其中有5期是判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/763.wav",
        "text": "確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/764.wav",
        "text": "有3期現在在二審中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/765.wav",
        "text": "另外109年的全部都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/766.wav",
        "text": "訴訟中112年的也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/767.wav",
        "text": "據我們了解目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/768.wav",
        "text": "法院有說要暫停訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/769.wav",
        "text": "希望兩造能夠和解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/770.wav",
        "text": "但我們目前的訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/771.wav",
        "text": "是還沒有和解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/772.wav",
        "text": "暫停訴訟讓他們去和解以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/773.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/774.wav",
        "text": "謝謝賦稅署的宋署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/775.wav",
        "text": "謝謝您\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/776.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/777.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝藉由今天的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/778.wav",
        "text": "通則的修法我們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/779.wav",
        "text": "很清楚地把過去這個個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/780.wav",
        "text": "的歷史脈絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/781.wav",
        "text": "再回溯一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/782.wav",
        "text": "剛剛非常清楚因為我剛剛也一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/783.wav",
        "text": "在找資料正如同剛剛署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/784.wav",
        "text": "所說明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/785.wav",
        "text": "不管是105年109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/786.wav",
        "text": "或是112年自治條例所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/787.wav",
        "text": "衍生的各個訴訟其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/788.wav",
        "text": "都還在進行中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/789.wav",
        "text": "除了判決確定的之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/790.wav",
        "text": "其餘都在進行中所以我剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/791.wav",
        "text": "聽到國民黨代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/792.wav",
        "text": "還是要確認一下剛剛署長您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/793.wav",
        "text": "庭方是希望和解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/794.wav",
        "text": "目前終止訴訟但目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/795.wav",
        "text": "還沒有確認這個進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/796.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/797.wav",
        "text": "\n就條文論條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/798.wav",
        "text": "現在手上拿到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/799.wav",
        "text": "有傅崐萁委員跟賴士葆委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/800.wav",
        "text": "版本兩個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/801.wav",
        "text": "就第1項的部分都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/802.wav",
        "text": "同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/803.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁委員是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/804.wav",
        "text": "增加了第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/805.wav",
        "text": "但就我來看如果第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/806.wav",
        "text": "的部分朝野有共識可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/807.wav",
        "text": "支持的話好像第3項的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/808.wav",
        "text": "部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/809.wav",
        "text": "可有可無嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/810.wav",
        "text": "體例上似乎也不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/811.wav",
        "text": "需要了啦所以這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/812.wav",
        "text": "就要就教於大家共同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/813.wav",
        "text": "部門大家在這個部分都有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/814.wav",
        "text": "的話是採賴士葆委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/815.wav",
        "text": "的版本嘛第3項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/816.wav",
        "text": "可能要說明一下因為兩個版本就差在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/817.wav",
        "text": "第3項但就我的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/818.wav",
        "text": "見解體例上第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/819.wav",
        "text": "的規範內容已經含括了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/820.wav",
        "text": "第3項要補充說明的要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/821.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上第3項是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/822.wav",
        "text": "可以不需要的你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/823.wav",
        "text": "財政部可以說明或請你們的法制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/824.wav",
        "text": "人員來做一下說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/825.wav",
        "text": "請稍待一下我們請陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/826.wav",
        "text": "再請財政部補充意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/827.wav",
        "text": "第1項這個可能都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/828.wav",
        "text": "不管是誰的版本你們都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/829.wav",
        "text": "我想你們有意見的應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/830.wav",
        "text": "第3項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/831.wav",
        "text": "第3項之所以會提出來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/832.wav",
        "text": "因為我們法律的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/833.wav",
        "text": "不夠明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/834.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁委員提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/835.wav",
        "text": "的原因是憲法第一百十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/836.wav",
        "text": "條是賦予保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/837.wav",
        "text": "縣財政及縣稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/838.wav",
        "text": "由地方立法並執行之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/839.wav",
        "text": "所以我們把這個明訂得更加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/840.wav",
        "text": "清楚這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/841.wav",
        "text": "加第3項是讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/842.wav",
        "text": "更明確化尤其我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/843.wav",
        "text": "到時候造成法條上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/844.wav",
        "text": "不管是對民眾或業者來講也是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/845.wav",
        "text": "過去已經發生的事情他們在法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/846.wav",
        "text": "進行訴訟系爭的訴訟他們繼續進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/847.wav",
        "text": "可能是調解法院也勸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/848.wav",
        "text": "和解嘛那下去我們就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/849.wav",
        "text": "寫清楚讓後來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/850.wav",
        "text": "業者或是民間或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/851.wav",
        "text": "相關執行的地方自治機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/852.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為第3項實在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/853.wav",
        "text": "體制整個完整化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/854.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請莊部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/855.wav",
        "text": "有一點點小小不一樣的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/856.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝我想最主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/857.wav",
        "text": "在於第3項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/858.wav",
        "text": "第1項增加了中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/859.wav",
        "text": "所訂的地方稅原規定的稅率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/860.wav",
        "text": "這幾個文字加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/861.wav",
        "text": "也就是說第4條指的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/862.wav",
        "text": "地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/863.wav",
        "text": "是由中央立法來訂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/864.wav",
        "text": "譬如說房屋稅地價稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/865.wav",
        "text": "都是中央訂了土地稅法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/866.wav",
        "text": "還有房屋稅條例來訂了稅率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/867.wav",
        "text": "在裡面這非常明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/868.wav",
        "text": "他可以在所訂的稅率裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/869.wav",
        "text": "在30%以內去做調高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/870.wav",
        "text": "所以這個非常明確如果把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/871.wav",
        "text": "文字加進去中央立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/872.wav",
        "text": "所訂之稅率就已經很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/873.wav",
        "text": "\n至於第3條本身就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/874.wav",
        "text": "不是屬於中央立法來訂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/875.wav",
        "text": "地方稅它是屬於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/876.wav",
        "text": "地方政府本身為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/877.wav",
        "text": "自治財政的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/878.wav",
        "text": "它可以開徵特別稅課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/879.wav",
        "text": "臨時稅課跟附加稅課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/880.wav",
        "text": "就不屬於第4條裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/881.wav",
        "text": "所定的所謂地方稅範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/882.wav",
        "text": "反而體例上會有點混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/883.wav",
        "text": "因為第4條是第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/884.wav",
        "text": "第3條是第3條兩者本身是非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/885.wav",
        "text": "獨立的加進去以後反而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/886.wav",
        "text": "在體例上會有一些混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/887.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為第3項事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/888.wav",
        "text": "是可以不需要的以上補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/889.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有反對而是認為列在第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/890.wav",
        "text": "第3項裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/891.wav",
        "text": "事實上比較不妥當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/892.wav",
        "text": "可能要列在別的地方或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/893.wav",
        "text": "因為我們列出來是要讓它更明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/894.wav",
        "text": "這個是爭執點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/895.wav",
        "text": "我們把爭點講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/896.wav",
        "text": "不是其實我們對於所謂在前面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/897.wav",
        "text": "文字加中央立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/898.wav",
        "text": "清楚因為讓第4條更明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/899.wav",
        "text": "表示中央立法定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/900.wav",
        "text": "一些地方稅稅率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/901.wav",
        "text": "我們在這邊都定下來那麼第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/902.wav",
        "text": "根本就跟第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/903.wav",
        "text": "本身沒有關聯性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/904.wav",
        "text": "放在這邊體例反而有點怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/905.wav",
        "text": "反而會有點混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/906.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/907.wav",
        "text": "放這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/908.wav",
        "text": "你覺得不需要放在第4條裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/909.wav",
        "text": "那應該放在哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/910.wav",
        "text": "我講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/911.wav",
        "text": "第3條是第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/912.wav",
        "text": "的部分就是第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/913.wav",
        "text": "不是不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/914.wav",
        "text": "而是立法體例完全衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/915.wav",
        "text": "需要不需要的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/916.wav",
        "text": "反而是照你這樣立法會發生衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/917.wav",
        "text": "所以陳玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/918.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/919.wav",
        "text": "傅委員這個案子的原意就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/920.wav",
        "text": "要解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/921.wav",
        "text": "我非常清楚因為當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/922.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁當縣長的時候我幫他協調過這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/923.wav",
        "text": "所以我很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/924.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/925.wav",
        "text": "其他的請尊重一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/926.wav",
        "text": "再跟部長確認一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/927.wav",
        "text": "也就是你這個第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/928.wav",
        "text": "其實已經是這樣了是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/929.wav",
        "text": "那你第3項要放在哪裡呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/930.wav",
        "text": "第3項事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/931.wav",
        "text": "本來就不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/932.wav",
        "text": "那它應該在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/933.wav",
        "text": "不需要寫嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/934.wav",
        "text": "因為本來就沒有30%的限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/935.wav",
        "text": "我們想說因為陳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/936.wav",
        "text": "的一些顧慮是不是把這一段文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/937.wav",
        "text": "放到說明裡面在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/938.wav",
        "text": "在後面的立法說明欄來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/939.wav",
        "text": "我可以這樣解讀嗎就是第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/940.wav",
        "text": "已經把它定位成中央立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/941.wav",
        "text": "所定的地方稅了就不會是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/942.wav",
        "text": "第3項這些稅嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/943.wav",
        "text": "第4條的稅所以放在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/944.wav",
        "text": "完全錯誤對好那應該放到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/945.wav",
        "text": "要放在哪裡或者這條本身就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/946.wav",
        "text": "贅文都不需要都不他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/947.wav",
        "text": "他要的是第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/948.wav",
        "text": "中央立法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/949.wav",
        "text": "真的它是贅語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/950.wav",
        "text": "不是只有贅語而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/951.wav",
        "text": "不能跟第4條混雜在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/952.wav",
        "text": "這不是贅語這個是完全衝突的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/953.wav",
        "text": "林思銘書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/954.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/955.wav",
        "text": "我想這一條財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/956.wav",
        "text": "也說得不清不楚財政部基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/957.wav",
        "text": "好像支持第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/958.wav",
        "text": "至於體例有沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/959.wav",
        "text": "我想法是我們立法者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/960.wav",
        "text": "我們在立的其實這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/961.wav",
        "text": "有它的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/962.wav",
        "text": "剛才部長說沒有必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/963.wav",
        "text": "這個才不會造成混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/964.wav",
        "text": "課徵相關稅收到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/965.wav",
        "text": "訴訟連法官都不曉得怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/966.wav",
        "text": "所以一定要有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/967.wav",
        "text": "立法的依據讓我們未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/968.wav",
        "text": "再發生的時候不會再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/969.wav",
        "text": "產生適用上的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/970.wav",
        "text": "所以第3項絕對有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/971.wav",
        "text": "它的必要性你不要一直針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/972.wav",
        "text": "很多縣市都有這種問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/973.wav",
        "text": "不是只有花蓮縣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/974.wav",
        "text": "我們是要解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/975.wav",
        "text": "不是要製造麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/976.wav",
        "text": "所以要解決問題讓法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/977.wav",
        "text": "你聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/978.wav",
        "text": "中央立法的部分才有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/979.wav",
        "text": "地方的沒有30%所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/980.wav",
        "text": "沒有加這個的餘地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/981.wav",
        "text": "柯總召講的地方沒有30%的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/982.wav",
        "text": "限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/983.wav",
        "text": "如果這句話是成立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/984.wav",
        "text": "地方自己人所以沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/985.wav",
        "text": "沒有30%的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/986.wav",
        "text": "不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/987.wav",
        "text": "所以就沒有力道這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/988.wav",
        "text": "適用嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/989.wav",
        "text": "所以你根本講的不對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/990.wav",
        "text": "兩位幹部請休息一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/991.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/992.wav",
        "text": "請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/993.wav",
        "text": "我覺得財政部剛剛講得其實蠻清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/994.wav",
        "text": "他的意思是說這一個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/995.wav",
        "text": "你多出來的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/996.wav",
        "text": "因為第3條指的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/997.wav",
        "text": "地方他自己做的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/998.wav",
        "text": "稅課然後第4條現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/999.wav",
        "text": "如果按照新法──中央立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1000.wav",
        "text": "它是中央訂的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1001.wav",
        "text": "所以一個有30%一個沒有30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1002.wav",
        "text": "所以你不用畫蛇添足再訂一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1003.wav",
        "text": "第4條現在多出來的這一段文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1004.wav",
        "text": "按照本來賴士葆委員的那一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1005.wav",
        "text": "其實應該就是可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1006.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得財政部講得蠻清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1007.wav",
        "text": "他只是說如果你真的要再畫蛇添足一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1008.wav",
        "text": "你不如放在修法理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1009.wav",
        "text": "說明給大家聽就夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1010.wav",
        "text": "因為它完全是跟這一個體例不通的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1011.wav",
        "text": "因為地方訂的跟中央定訂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1012.wav",
        "text": "這兩個是分開的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1013.wav",
        "text": "他的意思是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1014.wav",
        "text": "謝謝沈伯洋委員我們現在休息3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1015.wav",
        "text": "我覺得也不必啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1016.wav",
        "text": "因為不可能的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1017.wav",
        "text": "除非在說明欄說這個不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1018.wav",
        "text": "第3條不可以這樣放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1019.wav",
        "text": "財政部也贊成這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1020.wav",
        "text": "所以這個不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1021.wav",
        "text": "這是立法體例上完全衝突的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1022.wav",
        "text": "我們看要不要溝通一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1023.wav",
        "text": "3分鐘大概不夠我們休息10分鐘好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1024.wav",
        "text": "大家私底下來溝通一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1025.wav",
        "text": "好休息10分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1026.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1027.wav",
        "text": "請財政部各黨團幹部再做一輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1028.wav",
        "text": "我們就做一個結論好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1029.wav",
        "text": "肅靜謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1030.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長我想我再說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1031.wav",
        "text": "文字加進去中央立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1032.wav",
        "text": "所定的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1033.wav",
        "text": "所以很明確這個地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1034.wav",
        "text": "是中央立法而且訂了稅率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1035.wav",
        "text": "那麼地方政府可以就這個稅率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1036.wav",
        "text": "在30%範圍以內做一個調高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1037.wav",
        "text": "這非常明確是中央立法的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1038.wav",
        "text": "至於第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1039.wav",
        "text": "它並不是中央立法的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1040.wav",
        "text": "第3條是地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1041.wav",
        "text": "基於財政自治的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1042.wav",
        "text": "他自己去訂了相關稅課的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1043.wav",
        "text": "那麼地方稅自然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1044.wav",
        "text": "30%規定的一個限制的適用範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1045.wav",
        "text": "這個部分非常明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1046.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1047.wav",
        "text": "第一個是贅語第二個在體例上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1048.wav",
        "text": "也有一些混淆的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1049.wav",
        "text": "以上的補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1050.wav",
        "text": "我想今天是我們朝野協商以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1051.wav",
        "text": "本屆最和諧的一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1052.wav",
        "text": "珍惜這個結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1053.wav",
        "text": "往後是不是能夠如此下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1054.wav",
        "text": "但是造化總是弄人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1055.wav",
        "text": "好這個事情很單純很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1056.wav",
        "text": "其實剛剛財政部講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1057.wav",
        "text": "中央立法部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1058.wav",
        "text": "的地方稅最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1059.wav",
        "text": "可以加30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1060.wav",
        "text": "1%都不能加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1061.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1062.wav",
        "text": "所以地方立法的不能加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1063.wav",
        "text": "不能加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1064.wav",
        "text": "議會去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1065.wav",
        "text": "沒關係等一下你可以發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1066.wav",
        "text": "請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1067.wav",
        "text": "所以第3條第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1068.wav",
        "text": "規範的範圍完全不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1069.wav",
        "text": "標的也不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1070.wav",
        "text": "所以把第3條放在第4條第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1071.wav",
        "text": "這是立法體例衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1072.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1073.wav",
        "text": "因為這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1074.wav",
        "text": "提案人一開始是賴士葆委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1075.wav",
        "text": "他沒有第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1076.wav",
        "text": "但是傅崐萁自己又提一個第3項出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1077.wav",
        "text": "這一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1078.wav",
        "text": "剛才我講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1079.wav",
        "text": "就是說沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1080.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁現在人在香港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1081.wav",
        "text": "我講的這是比較重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1082.wav",
        "text": "請大家注意聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1083.wav",
        "text": "把該通過的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1084.wav",
        "text": "第一個剛才講的證交稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1085.wav",
        "text": "應該加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1086.wav",
        "text": "過後還要送總統府公告三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1087.wav",
        "text": "所以一定要在禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1088.wav",
        "text": "讀有關地方稅法通則禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1089.wav",
        "text": "也要完成三讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1090.wav",
        "text": "我想這個都很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1091.wav",
        "text": "有關運動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1092.wav",
        "text": "運動彩券"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1093.wav",
        "text": "這些都給他通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1094.wav",
        "text": "但是有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1095.wav",
        "text": "我跟傅總召談過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1096.wav",
        "text": "剛才也跟韓院長拜託過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1097.wav",
        "text": "就是禮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1098.wav",
        "text": "即便是原住民委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1099.wav",
        "text": "過去都是這樣至少在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1100.wav",
        "text": "我們執政的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1101.wav",
        "text": "有爭議的要發言就發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1102.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五應該如此來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1103.wav",
        "text": "剛才也跟韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1104.wav",
        "text": "私下溝通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1105.wav",
        "text": "也跟傅總召溝通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1106.wav",
        "text": "如果不相信請等明天傅總召出現時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1107.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1108.wav",
        "text": "今天這樣就差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1109.wav",
        "text": "等傅總召來了你們比較好決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1110.wav",
        "text": "我也尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1111.wav",
        "text": "\n至於民眾黨也很理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1112.wav",
        "text": "了所以我們今天是不是就協商到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1113.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1114.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1115.wav",
        "text": "警察人員人事條例也是我們非常關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1116.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1117.wav",
        "text": "你講完我再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1118.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1119.wav",
        "text": "這些都是民生法案我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1120.wav",
        "text": "商以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1121.wav",
        "text": "晚上12點都搞不完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1122.wav",
        "text": "沒關係柯總召講完了請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1123.wav",
        "text": "消化一下他剛剛講的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1124.wav",
        "text": "既然院會時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1125.wav",
        "text": "還沒到我們也不能提早下班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1126.wav",
        "text": "不要做薪水小偷都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1127.wav",
        "text": "已經到第三案了就應該繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1128.wav",
        "text": "我不是幹部但我覺得民進黨只要不先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1129.wav",
        "text": "霸占主席台就不會有其他事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1130.wav",
        "text": "所以我們按照原來議程就是上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1131.wav",
        "text": "怎麼排就這樣一直排下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1132.wav",
        "text": "一直討論下去對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1133.wav",
        "text": "要不要譴責要不要成立調查小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1134.wav",
        "text": "這些都是應該的也都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1135.wav",
        "text": "百姓關心的你剛剛講的也是民生法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1136.wav",
        "text": "案這些都是重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1137.wav",
        "text": "那就第三案繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1138.wav",
        "text": "法案部分擇期再協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1139.wav",
        "text": "時間還沒到吧開會是開到幾點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1140.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我都尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1141.wav",
        "text": "謝謝台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1142.wav",
        "text": "請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1143.wav",
        "text": "要保留了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1144.wav",
        "text": "把協商做完吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1145.wav",
        "text": "沒有院長我有不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1146.wav",
        "text": "今天的協商大家已經有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1147.wav",
        "text": "總召出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1148.wav",
        "text": "然後你們就敢簽了就結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1149.wav",
        "text": "國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1150.wav",
        "text": "有38項還沒協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1151.wav",
        "text": "至於第三案第四案的議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1152.wav",
        "text": "還在很後面根本不必講不然今天講的都白講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1153.wav",
        "text": "太早了以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1154.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼白講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1155.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1156.wav",
        "text": "部長這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1157.wav",
        "text": "其實現在已經談得差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1158.wav",
        "text": "我想讓大家達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1159.wav",
        "text": "也特別跟部長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1160.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1161.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1162.wav",
        "text": "以及所有列席的官員法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1163.wav",
        "text": "還有經濟部列席的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1164.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1165.wav",
        "text": "好微笑離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1166.wav",
        "text": "現在才三點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1167.wav",
        "text": "耶不要當薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1168.wav",
        "text": "柯總召你坐一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1169.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1170.wav",
        "text": "但今天的議程還沒結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1171.wav",
        "text": "今天的議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1172.wav",
        "text": "今天還那麼早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1173.wav",
        "text": "明天國營事業就不能協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1174.wav",
        "text": "了啊你要耽誤到國營事業明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1175.wav",
        "text": "明天國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1176.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1177.wav",
        "text": "你不能國營事業才要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1178.wav",
        "text": "你不注重觀光嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1179.wav",
        "text": "警察人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1180.wav",
        "text": "耶你不重視警察的退休福利嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1181.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會這樣現在才3點45分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1182.wav",
        "text": "怎麼不能協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1183.wav",
        "text": "呢你不在乎警察的福利嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1184.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1185.wav",
        "text": "時間還沒到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1186.wav",
        "text": "薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1187.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1188.wav",
        "text": "我很誠懇地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1189.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼說今天這兩案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1190.wav",
        "text": "然後接下去第三案第四案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1191.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道你們這幾個案子都很急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1192.wav",
        "text": "但是急不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1193.wav",
        "text": "坦白講現在連議程都還沒排上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1194.wav",
        "text": "還沒到那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1195.wav",
        "text": "這個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1196.wav",
        "text": "下禮拜五也不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1197.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1198.wav",
        "text": "我不可能卡你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1199.wav",
        "text": "你不願意協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1200.wav",
        "text": "不就是卡我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1201.wav",
        "text": "我在立法院三十幾年以來沒有協商落跑的紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1202.wav",
        "text": "我告訴大家說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1203.wav",
        "text": "明天繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1204.wav",
        "text": "協商也沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1205.wav",
        "text": "但是剛才林國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1206.wav",
        "text": "國成委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1207.wav",
        "text": "但是現在先休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1208.wav",
        "text": "你年紀大可以休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1209.wav",
        "text": "派年輕的上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1210.wav",
        "text": "你年紀大了沒有辦法繼續久坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1211.wav",
        "text": "你休息我們沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1212.wav",
        "text": "我們休息到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1213.wav",
        "text": "4點整開始開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1214.wav",
        "text": "9分鐘以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1215.wav",
        "text": "請通知一下民進黨團謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1216.wav",
        "text": "11條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1217.wav",
        "text": "二保留條文1條──第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1218.wav",
        "text": "三需交由黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1219.wav",
        "text": "我們召集委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1220.wav",
        "text": "一魯明哲委員於113年11月29日主持協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1221.wav",
        "text": "二再次協商條文及結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1222.wav",
        "text": "一第53條第7條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1223.wav",
        "text": "2協商無共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1224.wav",
        "text": "我們因此來協商第53條及第7條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1225.wav",
        "text": "先介紹今天列席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1226.wav",
        "text": "官員首先歡迎我們交通部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1227.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1228.wav",
        "text": "還有國防部勞動部農業部內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1229.wav",
        "text": "法務部司法院大家一口氣起立吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1230.wav",
        "text": "還有今天最主要的觀光署周署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1231.wav",
        "text": "因為就今天的協商會議我們手上拿到的開會事由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1232.wav",
        "text": "第一案就是證交稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1233.wav",
        "text": "條例第二案就是地方稅法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1234.wav",
        "text": "通則證交稅第2條之2跟第十二條我們剛剛處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1235.wav",
        "text": "然後地方稅法通則第四條剛剛也保留了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1236.wav",
        "text": "現在進入是第三案的發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1237.wav",
        "text": "第二條及第七十條之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1238.wav",
        "text": "其實我們民進黨團大家的桌上都是厚厚一疊資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1239.wav",
        "text": "因為我們都有充分的準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1240.wav",
        "text": "只是我想要釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1241.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例到底這一包的哪幾個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1242.wav",
        "text": "是今天協商的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1243.wav",
        "text": "是第二條及第七十之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1244.wav",
        "text": "但是這裡的不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1245.wav",
        "text": "我想確認一下你們所發的開會通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1246.wav",
        "text": "所以我在準備資料的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1247.wav",
        "text": "我們就很confuse"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1248.wav",
        "text": "第二條第七十條之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1249.wav",
        "text": "應當還有第五十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1250.wav",
        "text": "嘛還有沒有其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1251.wav",
        "text": "因為怎麼樣來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1252.wav",
        "text": "我們的協商開會通知對於條文也都會寫得很細緻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1253.wav",
        "text": "你看下面的憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1254.wav",
        "text": "除非是像財劃法是部分條文修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1255.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有寫清楚條次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1256.wav",
        "text": "所以說這個部分到底是哪幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1257.wav",
        "text": "我們再確認一下然後順序上要怎麼樣來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1258.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我也補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1259.wav",
        "text": "剛剛是滿遺憾的去上了一個廁所回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1260.wav",
        "text": "在門口聽到很多國民黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1261.wav",
        "text": "在那邊說什麼薪水小偷什麼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1262.wav",
        "text": "我都覺得我們不是坐在這繼續協商嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1263.wav",
        "text": "重點是剛剛的地方稅法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1264.wav",
        "text": "我一定要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1265.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團即便柯總召不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1266.wav",
        "text": "我們還是會在協商裡頭清楚表達我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1267.wav",
        "text": "我們也會在旁邊跟柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1268.wav",
        "text": "我們非常清楚的立場跟態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1269.wav",
        "text": "如果以剛剛地方稅法通則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1270.wav",
        "text": "說一個條文就很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1271.wav",
        "text": "你們也不願意放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1272.wav",
        "text": "或者是放立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1273.wav",
        "text": "凡事都要去請示傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1274.wav",
        "text": "我是真的覺得這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1275.wav",
        "text": "今天下面的每個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1276.wav",
        "text": "你們是不是都要請示傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1277.wav",
        "text": "因為傅總召不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1278.wav",
        "text": "連剛剛那個沒有爭議的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1279.wav",
        "text": "所以我要說我們現在坐回來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1280.wav",
        "text": "如果要尊重提案人每個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1281.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團的運作還不需要你來置喙吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1282.wav",
        "text": "好思瑤委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1283.wav",
        "text": "所以我的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1284.wav",
        "text": "我們就具體的討論充分的交換意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1285.wav",
        "text": "針對等一下發展觀光條例第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1286.wav",
        "text": "第53條及第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1287.wav",
        "text": "之2我先跟院長做一下報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1288.wav",
        "text": "現在我的發言是會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1289.wav",
        "text": "等一下進入條文有很多細緻的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1290.wav",
        "text": "我希望是譬如說我發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1291.wav",
        "text": "我是可以這樣子一來一往一問一答的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1292.wav",
        "text": "這樣比較有助於我們釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1293.wav",
        "text": "好不好我現在是進行會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1294.wav",
        "text": "所以請議事人員跟我們說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1295.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例到底哪幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1296.wav",
        "text": "是今天協商的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1297.wav",
        "text": "一個第53條一個第7條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1298.wav",
        "text": "第二國民黨團遞件的時候是有等案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1299.wav",
        "text": "是研商發展觀光條例第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1300.wav",
        "text": "及第7條之2條文修正草案等案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1301.wav",
        "text": "所以國民黨團所送出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1302.wav",
        "text": "的我們是沒有院長這個我還是要確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1303.wav",
        "text": "你看嘛剛剛證交稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1304.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說以後議事處理上要精緻要明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1305.wav",
        "text": "有等案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1306.wav",
        "text": "可是你前面還是會把條次寫清楚嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1307.wav",
        "text": "\n現在的confuse就發生在第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1308.wav",
        "text": "雖然有等案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1309.wav",
        "text": "可是你把第2條放進來幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1310.wav",
        "text": "因為我們釐清就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1311.wav",
        "text": "只是未來議事人員在協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1312.wav",
        "text": "也應當要明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1313.wav",
        "text": "因為這都關乎我們要準備哪些條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1314.wav",
        "text": "會會準備好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1315.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛是會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1316.wav",
        "text": "那現在呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1317.wav",
        "text": "那我想這樣子您稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1318.wav",
        "text": "您要會議詢問嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1319.wav",
        "text": "我也是會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1320.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得今天大家朝野協商講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1321.wav",
        "text": "不要再有什麼薪水小偷這種字眼出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1322.wav",
        "text": "我今天是搭高鐵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1323.wav",
        "text": "特別趕上來參加我們發兩點半的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1324.wav",
        "text": "我2點29分到臺北車站馬上趕過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1325.wav",
        "text": "我被指派是第四案第五案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1326.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們討論到第二案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1327.wav",
        "text": "就已經產生那種情況了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1328.wav",
        "text": "那我們想是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1329.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨的傅總召不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1330.wav",
        "text": "連第二案那麼簡單的條文文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1331.wav",
        "text": "都無法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1332.wav",
        "text": "那我就不曉得我們還能處理到哪一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1333.wav",
        "text": "不過我們尊重主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1334.wav",
        "text": "要協商到5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1335.wav",
        "text": "那我這裡很誠懇地要請示詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1336.wav",
        "text": "我被交付的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1337.wav",
        "text": "是為了第四案警察人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1338.wav",
        "text": "以及第五案憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1339.wav",
        "text": "我們協商到5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1340.wav",
        "text": "那我們會不會處理到第三案之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1341.wav",
        "text": "還會不會處理到第四案第五案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1342.wav",
        "text": "為了能夠讓今天的議程全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1343.wav",
        "text": "我們假設很順利都能審理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1344.wav",
        "text": "我們都按照議程上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1345.wav",
        "text": "所列的各條次條項事項來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1346.wav",
        "text": "誠如剛剛我們幹事長所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1347.wav",
        "text": "今天第三案上面寫的條文是哪幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1348.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團就通知他到場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1349.wav",
        "text": "所以黨團也通知我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1350.wav",
        "text": "第四案第五案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1351.wav",
        "text": "我也到場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1352.wav",
        "text": "我也不曉得兩點半開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1353.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候會討論到第四案第五案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1354.wav",
        "text": "但是我們還是坐在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1355.wav",
        "text": "現在既然主席說到5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1356.wav",
        "text": "那我要會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1357.wav",
        "text": "我今天專程從屏東再搭高鐵上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1358.wav",
        "text": "我搭八點半的高鐵回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1359.wav",
        "text": "現在又搭高鐵上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1360.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得要尊重一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1361.wav",
        "text": "現在都在臺北都在立法院嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1362.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1363.wav",
        "text": "是不是我詢問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1364.wav",
        "text": "我們到底會不會討論到第四案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1365.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝請陳玉珍委員會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1366.wav",
        "text": "院長我覺得民進黨鍾佳濱委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1367.wav",
        "text": "說得相當好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1368.wav",
        "text": "不然我們就不要把時間定到幾點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1369.wav",
        "text": "定到第五案審查完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1370.wav",
        "text": "我們就審查到第五案再那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1371.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1372.wav",
        "text": "說這樣跑上不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1373.wav",
        "text": "是喔本黨團不是因為傅總召不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1374.wav",
        "text": "喔是因為他是提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1375.wav",
        "text": "我們要了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1376.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不管本黨團是怎麼運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1377.wav",
        "text": "也沒有其他黨團置喙的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1378.wav",
        "text": "別的黨團怎麼可以管我們黨團內部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1379.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1380.wav",
        "text": "沒有那就是保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1381.wav",
        "text": "剛剛結果就是保留嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1382.wav",
        "text": "因為你們不願意接受我們的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1383.wav",
        "text": "那就第三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1384.wav",
        "text": "案我們是不是在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1385.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱委員的意見非常的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1386.wav",
        "text": "他都專程上來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1387.wav",
        "text": "剛剛主席說5點啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1388.wav",
        "text": "5點是柯總召說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1389.wav",
        "text": "的而且剛剛是你們已經說要離席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1390.wav",
        "text": "我們才會說薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1391.wav",
        "text": "你們才回來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1392.wav",
        "text": "一定要還原這個好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1393.wav",
        "text": "今天難得一團和氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1394.wav",
        "text": "我們就進入案子了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1395.wav",
        "text": "王鴻薇委員會議詢問請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1396.wav",
        "text": "我也要會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1397.wav",
        "text": "不是只有民進黨可以會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1398.wav",
        "text": "我想我們必須要釐清一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1399.wav",
        "text": "就是我們剛才院長非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1400.wav",
        "text": "我不知道為什麼還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1401.wav",
        "text": "我們參與協商的又倒退嚕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1402.wav",
        "text": "在第二案那邊嚕喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1403.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣真的是很耽誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1404.wav",
        "text": "使得我們的協商效率非常低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1405.wav",
        "text": "讓我非常擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1406.wav",
        "text": "事實上試圖阻撓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1407.wav",
        "text": "我們在第三案之後的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1408.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1409.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1410.wav",
        "text": "是不是就不要再倒退嚕了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1411.wav",
        "text": "我們這個第三案非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1412.wav",
        "text": "這麼多的觀光產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1413.wav",
        "text": "都在關心的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1414.wav",
        "text": "我們就不要再倒退嚕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1415.wav",
        "text": "嚕第二點就是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1416.wav",
        "text": "剛才大家都關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1417.wav",
        "text": "其實我們每一個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1418.wav",
        "text": "大家都很重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1419.wav",
        "text": "我剛才也覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1420.wav",
        "text": "他說的他其實是好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1421.wav",
        "text": "第四案還有第五案對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1422.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們現在也有好多位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1423.wav",
        "text": "他們也是來自臺北市以外的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1424.wav",
        "text": "特別來參與協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1425.wav",
        "text": "我非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1426.wav",
        "text": "所以我們基於尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1427.wav",
        "text": "各位委員的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1428.wav",
        "text": "真的應該就是進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1429.wav",
        "text": "不是只侷限在我們的第三案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1430.wav",
        "text": "第四案第五案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1431.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1432.wav",
        "text": "是不是也幫我們來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1433.wav",
        "text": "就是已經進入我們協商會場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1434.wav",
        "text": "所有委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1435.wav",
        "text": "來做一個澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1436.wav",
        "text": "就是我們也希望能夠把這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1437.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛才講什麼薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1438.wav",
        "text": "我想大家從那個畫面上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1439.wav",
        "text": "看得非常清楚啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1440.wav",
        "text": "剛才這一排全部都走光啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1441.wav",
        "text": "如果不是我們堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1442.wav",
        "text": "本來就是都跑光啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1443.wav",
        "text": "我們講的有什麼錯嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1444.wav",
        "text": "不要在這邊又在混水摸魚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1445.wav",
        "text": "又在那邊倒因為果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1446.wav",
        "text": "從畫面上有畫面有清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1447.wav",
        "text": "有真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1448.wav",
        "text": "剛才你們本來就都走光啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1449.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1450.wav",
        "text": "所以我們本來就拒絕做薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1451.wav",
        "text": "有人要做薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1452.wav",
        "text": "我們當然不願意做薪水小偷好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1453.wav",
        "text": "不過我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1454.wav",
        "text": "好李委員我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1455.wav",
        "text": "3個總召都不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1456.wav",
        "text": "好不好各位可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1457.wav",
        "text": "儘量勇敢發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1458.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1459.wav",
        "text": "會議詢問的第一個要點就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1460.wav",
        "text": "接下來的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1461.wav",
        "text": "傅總召不在的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1462.wav",
        "text": "到底協商算不算數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1463.wav",
        "text": "因為其實剛剛講到第二個案子的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1464.wav",
        "text": "就卡住了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1465.wav",
        "text": "尊重我發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1466.wav",
        "text": "尊重一下我發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1467.wav",
        "text": "啦尊重一下發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1468.wav",
        "text": "耶主席他不尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1469.wav",
        "text": "啊他不尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1470.wav",
        "text": "人家發言他就說是廢話這樣不行吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1471.wav",
        "text": "你講那麼多廢話我也沒講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1472.wav",
        "text": "你是講廢話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1473.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛一路都在講廢話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1474.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有阻止你講廢話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1475.wav",
        "text": "看我眼睛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1476.wav",
        "text": "好請繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1477.wav",
        "text": "好我是希望能夠尊重發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1478.wav",
        "text": "啦第二個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1479.wav",
        "text": "不要扯別人是什麼薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1480.wav",
        "text": "在立法院裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1481.wav",
        "text": "院長可以去查一下在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1482.wav",
        "text": "他又不尊重你了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1483.wav",
        "text": "這麼不尊重王院長啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1484.wav",
        "text": "是你在講薪水小偷的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1485.wav",
        "text": "薪水小偷是你在講的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1486.wav",
        "text": "薪水小偷就是你在講的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1487.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1488.wav",
        "text": "薪水小偷就是你在講的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1489.wav",
        "text": "你這樣指責你的國民黨很多的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1490.wav",
        "text": "都是薪水小偷啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1491.wav",
        "text": "現在就不在院內裡面啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1492.wav",
        "text": "你叫什麼王院長我姓韓好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1493.wav",
        "text": "OK了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1494.wav",
        "text": "我還沒有講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1495.wav",
        "text": "抱歉韓院長抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1496.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊我是會議詢問嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1497.wav",
        "text": "因為他一直打擾我一直阻斷我啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1498.wav",
        "text": "是薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1499.wav",
        "text": "也不要有年齡歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1500.wav",
        "text": "對於我們的柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1501.wav",
        "text": "年齡歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1502.wav",
        "text": "就是你啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1503.wav",
        "text": "對於柯總召就是做年齡歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1504.wav",
        "text": "我是敬老尊賢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1505.wav",
        "text": "你就欺負我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1506.wav",
        "text": "又來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1507.wav",
        "text": "韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1508.wav",
        "text": "我也算是新進的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1509.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣子會欺負人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1510.wav",
        "text": "這樣而已啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1511.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝喔沈委員會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1512.wav",
        "text": "跟會議有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1513.wav",
        "text": "好我簡短講一下就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1514.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商非常多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1515.wav",
        "text": "有很多次我講到一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1516.wav",
        "text": "不管是國民黨還是民眾黨都直接走掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1517.wav",
        "text": "所以我說真的沒有必要講這一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1518.wav",
        "text": "用什麼薪水小偷等等的字眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1519.wav",
        "text": "我覺得真的是沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1520.wav",
        "text": "啦不然如果現在真的薪水小偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1521.wav",
        "text": "那應該是在香港的那一位啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1522.wav",
        "text": "我一天到晚講然後其他人就直接走掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1523.wav",
        "text": "我知道因為發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1524.wav",
        "text": "畢竟就是要到26號才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1525.wav",
        "text": "1個月當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1526.wav",
        "text": "先協商也不是不行但是為什麼要在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1527.wav",
        "text": "現在就把它排到議程上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1528.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也是我要詢問的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1529.wav",
        "text": "就這兩點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1530.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨黨團正式來請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1531.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團如果提出請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1532.wav",
        "text": "我們也一定要照辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1533.wav",
        "text": "院本部一定要辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1534.wav",
        "text": "特別跟沈委員解釋一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1535.wav",
        "text": "那你每次發言你看我當主席都很尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1536.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1537.wav",
        "text": "多羨慕你的髮型啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1538.wav",
        "text": "好我們現在請國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1539.wav",
        "text": "我們現在開始正式進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1540.wav",
        "text": "主席我們請我們的召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1541.wav",
        "text": "已經坐很久了好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1542.wav",
        "text": "各黨團的各位前輩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1543.wav",
        "text": "還有我們列席的政府官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1544.wav",
        "text": "針對於我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1545.wav",
        "text": "討論事由的第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1546.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1547.wav",
        "text": "立法院級的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1548.wav",
        "text": "保留到院會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1549.wav",
        "text": "甚至有一些要修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1550.wav",
        "text": "就是第53條及第7"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1551.wav",
        "text": "條之2這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1552.wav",
        "text": "條文請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1553.wav",
        "text": "53條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1554.wav",
        "text": "最主要其實沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1555.wav",
        "text": "條文修正不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1556.wav",
        "text": "的版本而是針對原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1557.wav",
        "text": "本裡面的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1558.wav",
        "text": "針對於玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1559.wav",
        "text": "榮譽和損害國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1560.wav",
        "text": "利益怎麼樣在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1561.wav",
        "text": "執法過程中會被擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1562.wav",
        "text": "解釋我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1563.wav",
        "text": "在交通委員會討論的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1564.wav",
        "text": "有幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1565.wav",
        "text": "提出來這種疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1566.wav",
        "text": "旅遊業這樣一個情境被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1567.wav",
        "text": "擴大解釋當然在第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1568.wav",
        "text": "53條的修法現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1569.wav",
        "text": "把罰則增加大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1570.wav",
        "text": "大概一倍左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1571.wav",
        "text": "第53條希望不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1572.wav",
        "text": "擴大解釋並沒有針對於條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1573.wav",
        "text": "年的部分就這兩個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1574.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1575.wav",
        "text": "謝謝請吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1576.wav",
        "text": "幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1577.wav",
        "text": "主席我建議我們是不是就先進行第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1578.wav",
        "text": "的討論好不好等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1579.wav",
        "text": "再第7條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1580.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝剛剛魯召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1581.wav",
        "text": "的說明讓我們很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1582.wav",
        "text": "當初在交通委員會討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1583.wav",
        "text": "第53條的部分來表達我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1584.wav",
        "text": "意見就我所了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1585.wav",
        "text": "去做了一些功課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1586.wav",
        "text": "當初在審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1587.wav",
        "text": "當中大家希望對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1588.wav",
        "text": "榮譽損害國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1589.wav",
        "text": "利益規定這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1590.wav",
        "text": "兩個內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1591.wav",
        "text": "要予以調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1592.wav",
        "text": "把我所知的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1593.wav",
        "text": "署長所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1594.wav",
        "text": "玷辱國家榮譽損害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1595.wav",
        "text": "國家利益就我所知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1596.wav",
        "text": "我先不要講其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1597.wav",
        "text": "法令我先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1598.wav",
        "text": "以發展觀光條例來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1599.wav",
        "text": "好了發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1600.wav",
        "text": "是民國58年制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1601.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1602.wav",
        "text": "現在主席說我們可以一問一答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1603.wav",
        "text": "你們可以回答是58年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1604.wav",
        "text": "部長署長可以直接回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1605.wav",
        "text": "所以58年7月15號制定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1606.wav",
        "text": "當初的這一個條文是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1607.wav",
        "text": "第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1608.wav",
        "text": "我都還沒出生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1609.wav",
        "text": "那時候就寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1610.wav",
        "text": "觀光事業經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1611.wav",
        "text": "有玷辱國家榮譽妨礙善良風俗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1612.wav",
        "text": "或詐騙旅客之行為者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1613.wav",
        "text": "所以這個玷辱國家榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1614.wav",
        "text": "在第一次立法的時候就有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1615.wav",
        "text": "再來進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1616.wav",
        "text": "第一修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1617.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例的第一次修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1618.wav",
        "text": "是民國69年11月7號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1619.wav",
        "text": "號條次調整為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1620.wav",
        "text": "第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1621.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1622.wav",
        "text": "很具體的第一個它對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1623.wav",
        "text": "罰鍰做了處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1624.wav",
        "text": "第二一樣它的玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1625.wav",
        "text": "榮譽繼續擺著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1626.wav",
        "text": "只是罰鍰做調整部長是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1627.wav",
        "text": "第二次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1628.wav",
        "text": "修正再修正是民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1629.wav",
        "text": "10月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1630.wav",
        "text": "條次就變成第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1631.wav",
        "text": "53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1632.wav",
        "text": "產業一直在精進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1633.wav",
        "text": "有更多元的觀光產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1634.wav",
        "text": "所以對於這個前提本來是講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1635.wav",
        "text": "觀光事業經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1636.wav",
        "text": "在90年修正的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1637.wav",
        "text": "第53條是把它更細緻了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1638.wav",
        "text": "變成觀光旅館業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1639.wav",
        "text": "還有旅館業旅行業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1640.wav",
        "text": "觀光遊樂業或民宿經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1641.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1642.wav",
        "text": "主題做了這個調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1643.wav",
        "text": "更細緻多元與時俱進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1644.wav",
        "text": "但是同樣的玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1645.wav",
        "text": "榮譽這個部分都還在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1646.wav",
        "text": "損害國家利益出現了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1647.wav",
        "text": "在69年跟90年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1648.wav",
        "text": "這兩次都出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1649.wav",
        "text": "這個樣態都出現了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1650.wav",
        "text": "90年修正的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1651.wav",
        "text": "本來是5,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1652.wav",
        "text": "元以上5萬以下的罰鍰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1653.wav",
        "text": "這一次也修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1654.wav",
        "text": "更提高為3萬至15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1655.wav",
        "text": "而且還加重情節重大者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1656.wav",
        "text": "會停止部分營業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1657.wav",
        "text": "或者是廢止執照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1658.wav",
        "text": "所以我這些說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1659.wav",
        "text": "最近一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1660.wav",
        "text": "距離我們今天修法也就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1661.wav",
        "text": "現行法應當是民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1662.wav",
        "text": "111年5月3號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1663.wav",
        "text": "修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1664.wav",
        "text": "第53條的條次就沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1665.wav",
        "text": "再一次針對所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1666.wav",
        "text": "觀光旅館業這些經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1667.wav",
        "text": "有玷辱國家榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1668.wav",
        "text": "損害國家利益它都保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1669.wav",
        "text": "這些樣態然後再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1670.wav",
        "text": "地加重罰則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1671.wav",
        "text": "處新臺幣十五萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1672.wav",
        "text": "的修法我要論述跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1673.wav",
        "text": "說明的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1674.wav",
        "text": "玷辱國家榮譽損害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1675.wav",
        "text": "損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1676.wav",
        "text": "的這個樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1677.wav",
        "text": "其實從民國58年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1678.wav",
        "text": "到現在一路都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1679.wav",
        "text": "所以並沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1680.wav",
        "text": "你們認為有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1681.wav",
        "text": "調整的必要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1682.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們當然認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1683.wav",
        "text": "沒有調整的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1684.wav",
        "text": "跟國家榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1685.wav",
        "text": "或者是國家利益這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1686.wav",
        "text": "用語的法律跟命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1687.wav",
        "text": "其實我們在其他法律跟規定裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1688.wav",
        "text": "也相當地多其中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1689.wav",
        "text": "涉及國家榮譽的總共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1690.wav",
        "text": "有8種法令跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1691.wav",
        "text": "條文交通部有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1692.wav",
        "text": "太快了我現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1693.wav",
        "text": "一個一個跟您釐清所以就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1694.wav",
        "text": "本法我們在講發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1695.wav",
        "text": "觀光條例第53條修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1696.wav",
        "text": "沿革我要驗證的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1697.wav",
        "text": "而交通部門認為它還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1698.wav",
        "text": "需要存在是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1699.wav",
        "text": "認為它還需要存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1700.wav",
        "text": "第二個是因為我所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1701.wav",
        "text": "您剛才也提到我想詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1702.wav",
        "text": "您的第二點是我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1703.wav",
        "text": "審發展觀光條例它相對是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1704.wav",
        "text": "一個觀光業比較大的母法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1705.wav",
        "text": "觀光產業可能有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1706.wav",
        "text": "交通運輸業可能有船舶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1707.wav",
        "text": "商家的規範等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1708.wav",
        "text": "是不是對於這種相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1709.wav",
        "text": "的管理或裁罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1710.wav",
        "text": "裁罰的前提都在\n您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1711.wav",
        "text": "可不可以再講一下有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1712.wav",
        "text": "是其實總共有69種法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1713.wav",
        "text": "跟法規裡面都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1714.wav",
        "text": "跟國家榮譽相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1715.wav",
        "text": "主要當然是民宿管理辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1716.wav",
        "text": "還有汽車業運輸管理辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1717.wav",
        "text": "還有旅行業管理辦法等等總共6條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1718.wav",
        "text": "跟交通部相關其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1719.wav",
        "text": "有2條是跟其他部會相關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1720.wav",
        "text": "其中涉及"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1721.wav",
        "text": "國家利益的部分有61種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1722.wav",
        "text": "法令與交通部相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1723.wav",
        "text": "的是一種與其他部會相關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1724.wav",
        "text": "有60種也應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1725.wav",
        "text": "其他部會也都是從當時在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1726.wav",
        "text": "設定法令的過程當中也就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1727.wav",
        "text": "把這兩句放進去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1728.wav",
        "text": "其中一個我想再驗證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1729.wav",
        "text": "外交部代表在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1730.wav",
        "text": "沒有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1731.wav",
        "text": "好那教育部有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1732.wav",
        "text": "今天有沒有教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1733.wav",
        "text": "對於這個所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1734.wav",
        "text": "同樣的規範玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1735.wav",
        "text": "國家利益在教育部相關的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1736.wav",
        "text": "教育部代表請教育部李副處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1737.wav",
        "text": "不用客氣請直接發言前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1738.wav",
        "text": "有麥克風您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1739.wav",
        "text": "您往前走過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1740.wav",
        "text": "應當也都有吧因為如果這樣看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1741.wav",
        "text": "有69個法規在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1742.wav",
        "text": "玷辱國家榮譽它都有入法規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1743.wav",
        "text": "應該是有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1744.wav",
        "text": "我們回去再"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1745.wav",
        "text": "查詢一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1746.wav",
        "text": "好但我要告訴你不是應該有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1747.wav",
        "text": "你們國家代表隊教練與選手選拔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1748.wav",
        "text": "培訓及參賽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1749.wav",
        "text": "處理辦法就有我是隨便舉一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1750.wav",
        "text": "所以其他部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1751.wav",
        "text": "這裡有內政部代表嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1752.wav",
        "text": "有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1753.wav",
        "text": "你們的入出國及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1754.wav",
        "text": "移民法是不是也有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1755.wav",
        "text": "規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1756.wav",
        "text": "對不對用這樣的詞句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1757.wav",
        "text": "去規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1758.wav",
        "text": "不要有任何玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1759.wav",
        "text": "榮譽損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1760.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我是國家公園署"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1761.wav",
        "text": "關於移民署的這個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1762.wav",
        "text": "我回去再詳查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1763.wav",
        "text": "只是要舉例我覺得我們討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1764.wav",
        "text": "法律就是要這樣子這不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1765.wav",
        "text": "任何新生事務在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1766.wav",
        "text": "這一次的修法就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1767.wav",
        "text": "本法來講發展觀光條例從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1768.wav",
        "text": "58年到現在一修二修三修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1769.wav",
        "text": "四修它都存在當然我們現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1770.wav",
        "text": "還是可以討論要不要刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1771.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得不要看到玷辱國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1772.wav",
        "text": "名譽看到國家就害怕"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1773.wav",
        "text": "或是就要調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1774.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我再問一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1775.wav",
        "text": "現在有用這個條文裁罰了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1776.wav",
        "text": "哪一些適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1777.wav",
        "text": "這個條文然後保障了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1778.wav",
        "text": "的可以說明一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1779.wav",
        "text": "跟主席和各位委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1780.wav",
        "text": "其實像帶團的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1781.wav",
        "text": "有幾個案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1782.wav",
        "text": "譬如地接社"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1783.wav",
        "text": "就把這些旅客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1784.wav",
        "text": "直接送到警察局去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1785.wav",
        "text": "後就落跑了這叫做丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1786.wav",
        "text": "這是丟包的部分國外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1787.wav",
        "text": "跟國內都有類似的案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1788.wav",
        "text": "還有我們在疫情期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1789.wav",
        "text": "確實我們也是用這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1790.wav",
        "text": "維持觀光產業的秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1791.wav",
        "text": "好所以你們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1792.wav",
        "text": "執法中我們都希望能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1793.wav",
        "text": "確保遊客的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1794.wav",
        "text": "相關觀光從業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1795.wav",
        "text": "人員他的形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1796.wav",
        "text": "他的正向的reputation"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1797.wav",
        "text": "這是我們這個法律這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1798.wav",
        "text": "在罰則的部分因為現在處理到罰則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1799.wav",
        "text": "了你們政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1800.wav",
        "text": "部門對於這個條次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1801.wav",
        "text": "的罰則的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1802.wav",
        "text": "因為我們觀光署去年成立的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1803.wav",
        "text": "組改之後我們也對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1804.wav",
        "text": "發展觀光條例做了整個的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1805.wav",
        "text": "我們也有對這一項做了一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1806.wav",
        "text": "修正跟委員提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1807.wav",
        "text": "提案的內容大致是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1808.wav",
        "text": "所以你們可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1809.wav",
        "text": "委員各個版本的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1810.wav",
        "text": "你們主張的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1811.wav",
        "text": "然後下限大概都是維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1812.wav",
        "text": "好這個幹事長不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1813.wav",
        "text": "我打斷一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1814.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有我只是打斷說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1815.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾這些條文沒有說要刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1816.wav",
        "text": "討論的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1817.wav",
        "text": "這是朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1818.wav",
        "text": "把審查會過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1819.wav",
        "text": "可能有委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1820.wav",
        "text": "提出這就是朝野協商嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1821.wav",
        "text": "所以主席我可以繼續嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1822.wav",
        "text": "可以我只是想提醒幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1823.wav",
        "text": "我們會浪費很多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1824.wav",
        "text": "怎麼別人在很理性專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1825.wav",
        "text": "深入地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1826.wav",
        "text": "主席我抗議喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1827.wav",
        "text": "主席你制止一下我剛剛這麼專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1828.wav",
        "text": "找了這麼多資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1829.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會有在野黨的委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1830.wav",
        "text": "我在浪費時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1831.wav",
        "text": "你的資料都很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1832.wav",
        "text": "但就是因為剛才幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1833.wav",
        "text": "誤會說要刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1834.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛特別說明沒有要刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1835.wav",
        "text": "主席我怎麼討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1836.wav",
        "text": "主席您認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1837.wav",
        "text": "我有在浪費時間嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1838.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可以有委員這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1839.wav",
        "text": "你要不要更正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1840.wav",
        "text": "或請他對我表達一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1841.wav",
        "text": "不要把別人的認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1842.wav",
        "text": "當兒戲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1843.wav",
        "text": "不要把別人討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1844.wav",
        "text": "條文的專業準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1845.wav",
        "text": "當作在浪費時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1846.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣我很不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1847.wav",
        "text": "欸我需要一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1848.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1849.wav",
        "text": "如果我們幹事長不詢問的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1850.wav",
        "text": "可不可以換我來詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1851.wav",
        "text": "你不繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1852.wav",
        "text": "就換人來繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1853.wav",
        "text": "我沒有說你的資料是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1854.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1855.wav",
        "text": "你不詢問的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1856.wav",
        "text": "換別人來詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1857.wav",
        "text": "主席我的發言時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1858.wav",
        "text": "你的發言時間很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1859.wav",
        "text": "你的發言時間非常久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1860.wav",
        "text": "主席這是我的發言時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1861.wav",
        "text": "稍微控制一下時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1862.wav",
        "text": "所以這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1863.wav",
        "text": "第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1864.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1865.wav",
        "text": "我不是對主席拍桌子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1866.wav",
        "text": "我是對於一直在插話的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1867.wav",
        "text": "很不能忍受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1868.wav",
        "text": "所以這個條文的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1869.wav",
        "text": "就是再確認一下你們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1870.wav",
        "text": "下限不做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1871.wav",
        "text": "好我了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1872.wav",
        "text": "其實回歸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1873.wav",
        "text": "所有的條文並沒有刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1874.wav",
        "text": "唯一的差別在於經法院判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1875.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得司法院的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1876.wav",
        "text": "也是滿重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1877.wav",
        "text": "我提醒一下下面發言的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1878.wav",
        "text": "可能司法院的態度非常關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1879.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們請林倩綺委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1880.wav",
        "text": "主席各位立院同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1881.wav",
        "text": "還有行政院的同仁大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1882.wav",
        "text": "針對發展觀光條例第36條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1883.wav",
        "text": "上一回大家對於水域安全的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1884.wav",
        "text": "關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1885.wav",
        "text": "我這邊也呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1886.wav",
        "text": "在這樣一個關心之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1887.wav",
        "text": "我們不希望每次在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1888.wav",
        "text": "暑期旺季裡面就會有一些傷害產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1889.wav",
        "text": "所以這個積極處理希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1890.wav",
        "text": "行政院就你們的相關條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1891.wav",
        "text": "把傷害減低到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1892.wav",
        "text": "最低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1893.wav",
        "text": "然後水域的開放上必須要有更積極的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1894.wav",
        "text": "管理所以我這邊提出來一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1895.wav",
        "text": "你把附帶決議拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1896.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1897.wav",
        "text": "好我們接下來請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1898.wav",
        "text": "我簡短先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1899.wav",
        "text": "玷汙國家榮譽等等之類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1900.wav",
        "text": "的那是因為在委員會討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1901.wav",
        "text": "有委員有這樣的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1902.wav",
        "text": "就是這個適不適合訂在上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1903.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛思瑤委員要講這個的理由是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1904.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我覺得蠻重要的一件事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1905.wav",
        "text": "我們要去討論那個額度的上限下限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1906.wav",
        "text": "那個應該是後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1907.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得大家對於這件事情比較沒有爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1908.wav",
        "text": "就只是那個額度要怎麼調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1909.wav",
        "text": "但這個條文裡面有一個很大的問題在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1910.wav",
        "text": "就是許宇甄委員這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1911.wav",
        "text": "加了幾句話他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1912.wav",
        "text": "經法院判決確定者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1913.wav",
        "text": "可以廢止執照或登記什麼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1914.wav",
        "text": "這個經法院判決確定者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1915.wav",
        "text": "等於會實質就弱化主管機關了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1916.wav",
        "text": "上將到中國參與統戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1917.wav",
        "text": "國防部不是就直接做了一個裁處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1918.wav",
        "text": "去砍他的退休金等等之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1919.wav",
        "text": "這個完全無待於任何的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1920.wav",
        "text": "司法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1921.wav",
        "text": "就可以先做這是主管機關的權責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1922.wav",
        "text": "又有案子那是他的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1923.wav",
        "text": "那是另外一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1924.wav",
        "text": "司法有案子有刑責或者有罰金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1925.wav",
        "text": "跟主管機關有沒有罰鍰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1926.wav",
        "text": "完全是兩件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1927.wav",
        "text": "如果今天他加這句話經法院判決確定者的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1928.wav",
        "text": "那主管機關不用玩了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1929.wav",
        "text": "什麼都要等司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1930.wav",
        "text": "這個是不合理的因為在整個法律的設計體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1931.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1932.wav",
        "text": "至於後面這個要怎麼調整說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1933.wav",
        "text": "要廢止登記又說額度要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1934.wav",
        "text": "拉高下限上限要怎麼調都沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1935.wav",
        "text": "但這個經法院判決確定者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1936.wav",
        "text": "更不要講還有一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1937.wav",
        "text": "玷汙國家榮譽及損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1938.wav",
        "text": "很多現在沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1939.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的法令還不完全我們針對統戰等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1940.wav",
        "text": "之類的法令是不完備的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1941.wav",
        "text": "不完備根本就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1942.wav",
        "text": "相關的案子來判決確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1943.wav",
        "text": "那主管機關要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1944.wav",
        "text": "所以這個經法院判決確定者一定要拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1945.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一個在一個小地方就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1946.wav",
        "text": "在修法理由有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1947.wav",
        "text": "國家法益社會法益與個人法益的順序區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1948.wav",
        "text": "等等之類的其實這在立法例上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1949.wav",
        "text": "訂成一條是有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1950.wav",
        "text": "但如果要拆開變得比較漂亮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1951.wav",
        "text": "我個人也是贊成大概就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1952.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1953.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1954.wav",
        "text": "如同主席一開始裁示的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1955.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是從第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1956.wav",
        "text": "先討論但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1957.wav",
        "text": "有講到第36條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1958.wav",
        "text": "事實上對於林倩綺委員講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1959.wav",
        "text": "因為我每年都在推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1960.wav",
        "text": "從我們布袋騎水上摩托車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1961.wav",
        "text": "到澎湖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1962.wav",
        "text": "而且我很想要從宜蘭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1963.wav",
        "text": "可以騎到日本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1964.wav",
        "text": "但與那國島沒有開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1965.wav",
        "text": "所以我沒辦法騎去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1966.wav",
        "text": "那對我來說是一個遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1967.wav",
        "text": "所以我也是主張我們對於水域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1968.wav",
        "text": "是越開放越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1969.wav",
        "text": "的附帶決議我還沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1970.wav",
        "text": "我希望第36條也是可以充分討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1971.wav",
        "text": "覺得整個臺灣對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1972.wav",
        "text": "我就覺得我今天來這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1973.wav",
        "text": "接下來會想要去聊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1974.wav",
        "text": "第36條的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1975.wav",
        "text": "\n主席不好意思我剛剛這樣離題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1976.wav",
        "text": "我還是回到第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1977.wav",
        "text": "第53條確實整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1978.wav",
        "text": "立法例有它的一個歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1979.wav",
        "text": "脈絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1980.wav",
        "text": "是第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1981.wav",
        "text": "到了69年的時候變成第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1982.wav",
        "text": "到了90年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1983.wav",
        "text": "就進入到了第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1984.wav",
        "text": "就是跟現在比較類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1985.wav",
        "text": "雷同的一個立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1986.wav",
        "text": "24條的時候事實上它的文字就已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1987.wav",
        "text": "就是觀光事業經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1988.wav",
        "text": "有玷汙國家榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1989.wav",
        "text": "妨害善良風俗或詐騙旅客之行為者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1990.wav",
        "text": "觀光事業主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1991.wav",
        "text": "得處多少的罰鍰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1992.wav",
        "text": "看出來接下來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1993.wav",
        "text": "修法就是把罰鍰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1994.wav",
        "text": "鍰提高針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1995.wav",
        "text": "所謂觀光業者的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1996.wav",
        "text": "這樣對應的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1997.wav",
        "text": "一些處罰所以處罰是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1998.wav",
        "text": "越來越嚴格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/1999.wav",
        "text": "看起來嚴格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2000.wav",
        "text": "處罰的金額也有提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2001.wav",
        "text": "基本上大家是重視這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2002.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛看到部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2003.wav",
        "text": "也有舉出幾個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2004.wav",
        "text": "說在95年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2005.wav",
        "text": "曾經有旅遊業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2006.wav",
        "text": "來臺灣結果竟然被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2007.wav",
        "text": "丟包在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2008.wav",
        "text": "航警局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2009.wav",
        "text": "所以當時有去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2010.wav",
        "text": "今年2月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2011.wav",
        "text": "是不是也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2012.wav",
        "text": "同樣是臺灣的旅行社"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2013.wav",
        "text": "也是辦旅遊團可是它是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2014.wav",
        "text": "到越南富"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2015.wav",
        "text": "富國島結果在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2016.wav",
        "text": "富國島把人家丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2017.wav",
        "text": "當時也是鬧得很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2018.wav",
        "text": "交通部有做裁處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2019.wav",
        "text": "但是是不是用第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2020.wav",
        "text": "我不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2021.wav",
        "text": "我印象中當時好像不是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2022.wav",
        "text": "這一條是用消保法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2023.wav",
        "text": "有勒令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2024.wav",
        "text": "停業三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2025.wav",
        "text": "第一個我是贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2026.wav",
        "text": "周署長可以直接回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2027.wav",
        "text": "直接裁罰停業三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2028.wav",
        "text": "是最快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2029.wav",
        "text": "的所以我們那時候直接用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2030.wav",
        "text": "消保法來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2031.wav",
        "text": "那我有一點不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2032.wav",
        "text": "為什麼當時沒有用這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2033.wav",
        "text": "就是說你們在做條文的評估的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2034.wav",
        "text": "當時是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2035.wav",
        "text": "有一些是需要查證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2036.wav",
        "text": "直接裁罰只有15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2037.wav",
        "text": "太低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2038.wav",
        "text": "所以應該採取最嚴格的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2039.wav",
        "text": "就是停業三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2040.wav",
        "text": "所以消保法會比這個第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2041.wav",
        "text": "53條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2042.wav",
        "text": "當時的情境是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2043.wav",
        "text": "但是第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2044.wav",
        "text": "可以停業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2045.wav",
        "text": "第53條一樣有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2046.wav",
        "text": "也是要進行調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2047.wav",
        "text": "當時我們國人在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2048.wav",
        "text": "以消費者保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2049.wav",
        "text": "為最優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2050.wav",
        "text": "這個我說真的有點不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2051.wav",
        "text": "如果有第53條可以來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2052.wav",
        "text": "第53條感覺是對業者的處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2053.wav",
        "text": "消保法感覺是對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2054.wav",
        "text": "當次契約行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2055.wav",
        "text": "違約的處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2056.wav",
        "text": "一樣都是處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2057.wav",
        "text": "但是它的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2058.wav",
        "text": "因為當時在過年期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2059.wav",
        "text": "消費者保護是最優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2060.wav",
        "text": "所以看不同的情境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2061.wav",
        "text": "我再消化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2062.wav",
        "text": "如果有這樣丟包的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2063.wav",
        "text": "它是一個軒然大波"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2064.wav",
        "text": "而且這種軒然大波對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2065.wav",
        "text": "臺灣在旅遊方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2066.wav",
        "text": "雖然是在國外但是一樣是有傷害到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2067.wav",
        "text": "如果發生在國內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2068.wav",
        "text": "事實上我還有想到另外一個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2069.wav",
        "text": "一樣是在年初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2070.wav",
        "text": "有臺灣的網紅跑到人家國家去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2071.wav",
        "text": "結果自導自演去罵人家國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2072.wav",
        "text": "那是柬埔寨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2073.wav",
        "text": "對結果柬埔寨那邊是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2074.wav",
        "text": "沒有審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2075.wav",
        "text": "直接抓起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2076.wav",
        "text": "就關了現在還不知道關出來沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2077.wav",
        "text": "蔡書記長我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2078.wav",
        "text": "回到條文你慢慢消化一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2079.wav",
        "text": "後面還有兩位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2080.wav",
        "text": "我是想就有那樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2081.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2082.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2083.wav",
        "text": "它不用留著說一定要經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2084.wav",
        "text": "我認為如同沈伯洋委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2085.wav",
        "text": "的這個法條留著它的彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2086.wav",
        "text": "是比較不足的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2087.wav",
        "text": "但是我們知道有時候觀光的態樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2088.wav",
        "text": "到底哪一種可能會傷害到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2089.wav",
        "text": "整個臺灣的觀光產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2090.wav",
        "text": "所以它這樣的保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2091.wav",
        "text": "不確定性但是也因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2092.wav",
        "text": "有詐騙旅客有妨害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2093.wav",
        "text": "善良風俗把類似這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2094.wav",
        "text": "不確定的法律文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2095.wav",
        "text": "我覺得因應各種突發狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2096.wav",
        "text": "因應這樣狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2097.wav",
        "text": "有時候一些突發事件發生的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2098.wav",
        "text": "有一些民怨行政機關總是要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2099.wav",
        "text": "立即當然必要的一些處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2100.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2101.wav",
        "text": "觀光條例第53條所謂玷污國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2102.wav",
        "text": "榮譽損害國家利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2103.wav",
        "text": "益這部分是我在委員會裡面提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2104.wav",
        "text": "的一些意見當然我要先講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2105.wav",
        "text": "這個字眼但是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2106.wav",
        "text": "對它的定義因為當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2107.wav",
        "text": "第一時間在詢問觀光署跟交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2108.wav",
        "text": "的時候他們其實答不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2109.wav",
        "text": "從立法以來他們罰過三個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2110.wav",
        "text": "一個就是大家提到的丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2111.wav",
        "text": "這個丟包事件是發生在民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2112.wav",
        "text": "95年8月7號有一個陸客被丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2113.wav",
        "text": "他們後來依照這個玷污國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2114.wav",
        "text": "榮譽跟損害國家利益罰了15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2115.wav",
        "text": "後來是109年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2116.wav",
        "text": "做地下匯兌直接幫他換錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2117.wav",
        "text": "所以一樣是用這一條罰了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2118.wav",
        "text": "15萬還有一個是疫情期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2119.wav",
        "text": "造成防疫破口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2120.wav",
        "text": "防疫旅館的部分也是用這條來罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2121.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是玷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2122.wav",
        "text": "榮譽跟損害國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2123.wav",
        "text": "利益當然是很嚴重的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2124.wav",
        "text": "是應該要有但問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2125.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛提到的這三個案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2126.wav",
        "text": "以丟包來講其實是有消保法可以來處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2127.wav",
        "text": "如果你是幫他做地下匯兌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2128.wav",
        "text": "應該有相關金融的法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2129.wav",
        "text": "可以來處理當時疫情期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2130.wav",
        "text": "造成防疫破口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2131.wav",
        "text": "的也有特別條例可以來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2132.wav",
        "text": "但這幾件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2133.wav",
        "text": "到底跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2134.wav",
        "text": "玷辱國家榮譽損害國家利益的關連性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2135.wav",
        "text": "是什麼我當初提出這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2136.wav",
        "text": "討論是希望觀光署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2137.wav",
        "text": "能夠明確地去說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2138.wav",
        "text": "到底哪些樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2139.wav",
        "text": "是可以用這個東西來罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2140.wav",
        "text": "而不是我今天想用這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2141.wav",
        "text": "罰你我就用這個罰你改天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2142.wav",
        "text": "我心情好想用消保法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2143.wav",
        "text": "處理你就用消保法處理你就是我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2144.wav",
        "text": "你在適用的樣態上面不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2145.wav",
        "text": "隨心所欲地去使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2146.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我覺得今天要提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2147.wav",
        "text": "是當然你說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2148.wav",
        "text": "法院判決確定者當時司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2149.wav",
        "text": "的意見那天他們來質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2150.wav",
        "text": "司法院的意見是跟我們講因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2151.wav",
        "text": "現在的法律裡面沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2152.wav",
        "text": "辦法明確地規範什麼叫做玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2153.wav",
        "text": "榮譽跟損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2154.wav",
        "text": "如果連司法院都沒辦法明確地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2155.wav",
        "text": "情我希望觀光署應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2156.wav",
        "text": "連司法院都沒辦法講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2157.wav",
        "text": "這個要怎麼定義的話我想請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2158.wav",
        "text": "一下在面對這些民宿或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2159.wav",
        "text": "觀光業者我們要用什麼樣的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2160.wav",
        "text": "我覺得要提出來提醒的我也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2161.wav",
        "text": "觀光署應該要明確地去規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2162.wav",
        "text": "講清楚哪些行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2163.wav",
        "text": "適用這個事情會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2164.wav",
        "text": "以後丟包全部都用這個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2165.wav",
        "text": "還是有的丟包是用消保法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2166.wav",
        "text": "有的丟包是用別的法律有的丟包是用這個法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2167.wav",
        "text": "這是我覺得最奇怪的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2168.wav",
        "text": "顥委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2169.wav",
        "text": "委員或委員會先做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2170.wav",
        "text": "我剛才為什麼特別講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2171.wav",
        "text": "就是其實這個條文大家都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2172.wav",
        "text": "對於現在的條文沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2173.wav",
        "text": "榮譽跟損害國家利益的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2174.wav",
        "text": "定義及樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2175.wav",
        "text": "剛比如說大家提到許宇甄委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2176.wav",
        "text": "什麼之類的其實我們並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2177.wav",
        "text": "堅持所以我覺得如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2178.wav",
        "text": "大家希望的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2179.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣就不會很天馬行空"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2180.wav",
        "text": "或者是有一些誤解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2181.wav",
        "text": "做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2182.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2183.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長一樣地在這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2184.wav",
        "text": "沒有變動的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2185.wav",
        "text": "旅行業包括觀光民宿業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2186.wav",
        "text": "其實有一些定義跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2187.wav",
        "text": "樣態的部分他們如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2188.wav",
        "text": "參考國內外案例其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2189.wav",
        "text": "藍綠之間都沒有意見我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2190.wav",
        "text": "相關的定義及樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2191.wav",
        "text": "就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2192.wav",
        "text": "謝謝游顥委員\n吳思瑤委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2193.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2194.wav",
        "text": "國民黨委員即便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2195.wav",
        "text": "在委員會的時候有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2196.wav",
        "text": "可能用語要斟酌一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2197.wav",
        "text": "包括健豪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2198.wav",
        "text": "其實我自己去看關係文書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2199.wav",
        "text": "因為我不是交通委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2200.wav",
        "text": "所以我特別去把這一次審查的關係文書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2201.wav",
        "text": "其實在那個會議當中是陳雪生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2202.wav",
        "text": "委員比較具體主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2203.wav",
        "text": "要把它刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2204.wav",
        "text": "然後不好意思國成大哥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2205.wav",
        "text": "也在同一次會是有附和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2206.wav",
        "text": "雪生委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2207.wav",
        "text": "所以我才要更確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2208.wav",
        "text": "今天在這裡協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2209.wav",
        "text": "是很資深我很尊重的交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2210.wav",
        "text": "專業的委員當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2211.wav",
        "text": "包括民眾黨代表林國成委員在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2212.wav",
        "text": "有附和要刪除所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2213.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要確認這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2214.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2215.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠把它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2216.wav",
        "text": "樣態在說明欄更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2217.wav",
        "text": "地定義譬如說現在很敏感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2218.wav",
        "text": "我就打開天窗說亮話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2219.wav",
        "text": "假設有哪個民宿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2220.wav",
        "text": "在他那裡掛了五星旗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2221.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2222.wav",
        "text": "用你們要不要先回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2223.wav",
        "text": "我覺得當然要把樣態明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2224.wav",
        "text": "大家都保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2225.wav",
        "text": "我們裁罰也會很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2226.wav",
        "text": "很精準所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2227.wav",
        "text": "樣態部分您等一下再說明\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2228.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2229.wav",
        "text": "罰則我非常同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2230.wav",
        "text": "剛剛沈伯洋委員說的這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2231.wav",
        "text": "行政的裁罰不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2232.wav",
        "text": "經法院認證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2233.wav",
        "text": "經法院裁罰判決確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2234.wav",
        "text": "如果大家都有共識許宇甄委員的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2235.wav",
        "text": "罰則的部分不論我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2236.wav",
        "text": "個人主張還是民進黨團主張我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2237.wav",
        "text": "裁罰部分如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2238.wav",
        "text": "玷辱國家榮譽損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2239.wav",
        "text": "妨害善良風俗或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2240.wav",
        "text": "詐騙旅客行為處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2241.wav",
        "text": "新臺幣3萬以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2242.wav",
        "text": "30萬元以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2243.wav",
        "text": "罰鍰然後情節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2244.wav",
        "text": "重大者處新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2245.wav",
        "text": "臺幣30萬元以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2246.wav",
        "text": "150萬元以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2247.wav",
        "text": "罰鍰這是第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2248.wav",
        "text": "經受停止營業一部或全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2249.wav",
        "text": "之處分仍然繼續營業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2250.wav",
        "text": "者這種叫你停你不停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2251.wav",
        "text": "還在違法營業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2252.wav",
        "text": "要處多少裁罰呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2253.wav",
        "text": "新臺幣50萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2254.wav",
        "text": "以上200萬元以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2255.wav",
        "text": "我代表民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2256.wav",
        "text": "跟第2項的幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2257.wav",
        "text": "我們共同來決定但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2258.wav",
        "text": "你們針對樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2259.wav",
        "text": "的部分在說明欄裡面要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2260.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講的掛五星旗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2261.wav",
        "text": "是不是就是嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2262.wav",
        "text": "不可以在臺灣的領域經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2263.wav",
        "text": "什麼我不知道但掛了傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2264.wav",
        "text": "國家國人情感這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2265.wav",
        "text": "要樣態說明第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2266.wav",
        "text": "司法院的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2267.wav",
        "text": "就我所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2268.wav",
        "text": "樣態內容哪些要裁罰你可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2269.wav",
        "text": "說明一下第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2270.wav",
        "text": "是不是同意拿掉第三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2271.wav",
        "text": "我所說的第1項跟第2項的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2272.wav",
        "text": "裁罰基準是不是同意民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2273.wav",
        "text": "的主張三個部分先請司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2274.wav",
        "text": "回應之後再請交通部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2275.wav",
        "text": "綜合沈伯洋委員發言之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2276.wav",
        "text": "我們先請司法院表達一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2277.wav",
        "text": "因為這裡非常關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2278.wav",
        "text": "麻煩一下請司法院楊副廳長表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2279.wav",
        "text": "想要提出的意見也是關於經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2280.wav",
        "text": "經法院判決確定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2281.wav",
        "text": "這個要件這個要件是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2282.wav",
        "text": "現行條文所沒有的我們當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2283.wav",
        "text": "適用上可能會產生一些疑義就是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2284.wav",
        "text": "是什麼樣的法院判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2285.wav",
        "text": "榮譽還有損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2286.wav",
        "text": "這樣的事實我們覺得好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2287.wav",
        "text": "所以適用上會有疑義因為從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2288.wav",
        "text": "他的這個修法說明看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2289.wav",
        "text": "好像是針對刑事判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2290.wav",
        "text": "譬如民事判決或行政法院的判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2291.wav",
        "text": "還有有些可能是經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2292.wav",
        "text": "這種類型算不算我們都會有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2293.wav",
        "text": "疑問所以就這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2294.wav",
        "text": "提出我們的看法\n至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2295.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的情形屬於玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2296.wav",
        "text": "榮譽和損害國家利益基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2297.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得這是不確定的法律概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2298.wav",
        "text": "現在我沒有辦法就它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2299.wav",
        "text": "它提出類型化的說明可能要請主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2300.wav",
        "text": "罰鍰金額的部分尊重大院的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2301.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2302.wav",
        "text": "合宜不合宜你覺得可不可以支持我剛剛建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2303.wav",
        "text": "的那幾個3萬30萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2304.wav",
        "text": "然後30萬150萬然後50萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2305.wav",
        "text": "200萬是不是合宜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2306.wav",
        "text": "發言我就要處理了好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2307.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛說的罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2308.wav",
        "text": "鍰基準是不是符合你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2309.wav",
        "text": "司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2310.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛建議的部分是不是可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2311.wav",
        "text": "主席關於罰鍰額度我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2312.wav",
        "text": "尊重大院的決定謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2313.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員請發言請簡短我們快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2314.wav",
        "text": "達成共識了好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2315.wav",
        "text": "沒問題我也是針對這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2316.wav",
        "text": "要附所以我可以稍微講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2317.wav",
        "text": "這跟臺灣本來有個公然侮辱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2318.wav",
        "text": "別人的名譽這也是很不確定的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2319.wav",
        "text": "到底什麼叫做侮辱這邊有一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2320.wav",
        "text": "模一樣的問題但這個問題在法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2321.wav",
        "text": "律解釋上大概是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2322.wav",
        "text": "國家的榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2323.wav",
        "text": "國家的國格就跟人格一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2324.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上就是幾個侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2325.wav",
        "text": "包括主權的侵害治權的侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2326.wav",
        "text": "國交國交就是指"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2327.wav",
        "text": "外交的侵害還有國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2328.wav",
        "text": "都比較能夠連結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2329.wav",
        "text": "到所謂的玷污國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2330.wav",
        "text": "榮譽這是在法律解釋上本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2331.wav",
        "text": "就已經有的東西所以我不會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2332.wav",
        "text": "它是一個完全不確定的概念但是它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2333.wav",
        "text": "確還是需要靠案例的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2334.wav",
        "text": "累積所以這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2335.wav",
        "text": "第二點我覺得這一點大家應該達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2336.wav",
        "text": "共識就是那個法院判決確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2337.wav",
        "text": "不太應該放在這一邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2338.wav",
        "text": "我講一個簡單的案例因為我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2339.wav",
        "text": "大家都很關心詐騙如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2340.wav",
        "text": "就算是詐騙雖然我們一切有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2341.wav",
        "text": "打詐專法也有詐欺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2342.wav",
        "text": "但是因為如果你的詐騙一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2343.wav",
        "text": "符合到現在刑法上的詐騙要既遂未遂的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2344.wav",
        "text": "那個不一定可以但是它可能在前階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2345.wav",
        "text": "的時候我們的主管機關就能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2346.wav",
        "text": "做裁罰我覺得這一個也是主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2347.wav",
        "text": "機關非常重要的權責所以大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2348.wav",
        "text": "這兩點謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2349.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2350.wav",
        "text": "有關金額的部分我想大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2351.wav",
        "text": "相對是比較有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2352.wav",
        "text": "交通部這邊也都接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2353.wav",
        "text": "我們也認為是合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2354.wav",
        "text": "至於這個裁罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2355.wav",
        "text": "的部分有關於玷污國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2356.wav",
        "text": "榮譽跟損害國家利益這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2357.wav",
        "text": "部分雖然是涉及比較不確定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2358.wav",
        "text": "法律概念但是我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2359.wav",
        "text": "這個對於保護民眾的權益來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2360.wav",
        "text": "極關重要所以我們希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2361.wav",
        "text": "維持至於說明的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2362.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是之後把它列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2363.wav",
        "text": "有比較具體的說明讓大家能夠清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2364.wav",
        "text": "一點不過我還是要強調它是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2365.wav",
        "text": "比較沒有這麼具體的法律概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2366.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也大概是一個大括性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2367.wav",
        "text": "說明這樣子以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2368.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝陳部長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2369.wav",
        "text": "報告各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2370.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的話我們就針對第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2371.wav",
        "text": "對如果要確認條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2372.wav",
        "text": "如果我沒有理解錯誤司法院同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2373.wav",
        "text": "然後部裡也同意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2374.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是這個金額部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2375.wav",
        "text": "請各黨派委員大家可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2376.wav",
        "text": "金額的調整罰鍰的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2377.wav",
        "text": "對其他文字對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2378.wav",
        "text": "影印一下先發給各黨的幹部吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2379.wav",
        "text": "大家再1分鐘左右好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2380.wav",
        "text": "對這個是我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2381.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2382.wav",
        "text": "就是你要在立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2383.wav",
        "text": "剛才交通部長也講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2384.wav",
        "text": "他會儘量提出相關的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2385.wav",
        "text": "所以在說明還沒看到以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2386.wav",
        "text": "我們當然保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2387.wav",
        "text": "所以我們先保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2388.wav",
        "text": "等交通部把詳細的樣態列舉之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2389.wav",
        "text": "我們再來讓這個條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2390.wav",
        "text": "你先通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2391.wav",
        "text": "樣態沒有說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2392.wav",
        "text": "這不是很矛盾嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2393.wav",
        "text": "那可不可以再釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2394.wav",
        "text": "我同意啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2395.wav",
        "text": "因為這也是我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2396.wav",
        "text": "你說明欄裡頭就還沒明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2397.wav",
        "text": "本來就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2398.wav",
        "text": "我還是想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2399.wav",
        "text": "就教於國民黨委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2400.wav",
        "text": "因為一關一關解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2401.wav",
        "text": "因為這個也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2402.wav",
        "text": "待會會有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2403.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛講的三個level的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2404.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們都尊重當時交委會的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2405.wav",
        "text": "是這個條文內容是有OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2406.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個要確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2407.wav",
        "text": "但是保留的部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2408.wav",
        "text": "說明欄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2409.wav",
        "text": "直接講說明欄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2410.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2411.wav",
        "text": "這樣就有往前進一步了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2412.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在三個黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2413.wav",
        "text": "加上交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2414.wav",
        "text": "還有觀光署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2415.wav",
        "text": "大家共同的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2416.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有特別意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2417.wav",
        "text": "第53條就尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2418.wav",
        "text": "王美惠委員等16人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2419.wav",
        "text": "這是基本上大致上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2420.wav",
        "text": "部分剛剛陳部長也講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2421.wav",
        "text": "我們在立法說明裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2422.wav",
        "text": "把有玷污國家榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2423.wav",
        "text": "有損害國家利益者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2424.wav",
        "text": "說得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2425.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2426.wav",
        "text": "還是有略修上限跟下限沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2427.wav",
        "text": "第53條如果這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2428.wav",
        "text": "如果可以我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2429.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2430.wav",
        "text": "院長我剛剛的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2431.wav",
        "text": "等交通部把說明欄的樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2432.wav",
        "text": "寫清楚之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2433.wav",
        "text": "我們再來達成協商的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2434.wav",
        "text": "好的好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2435.wav",
        "text": "那就拜多下一次協商之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2436.wav",
        "text": "跟觀光署特別辛苦一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2437.wav",
        "text": "列舉的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2438.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2439.wav",
        "text": "現在時間已接近5點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2440.wav",
        "text": "本案我們就繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2441.wav",
        "text": "溝通協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2442.wav",
        "text": "明天下午3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2443.wav",
        "text": "我們要依照協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2444.wav",
        "text": "進行附屬單位預算保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2445.wav",
        "text": "等的第二輪協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2446.wav",
        "text": "以利本週五院會進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2447.wav",
        "text": "我們再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2448.wav",
        "text": "依序來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2449.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2450.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2451.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2452.wav",
        "text": "大家辛苦了謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16358/2453.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/0.wav",
        "text": "上次的審查結論保留了4個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/1.wav",
        "text": "1項附帶決議這幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/2.wav",
        "text": "第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/3.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/4.wav",
        "text": "就是款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/5.wav",
        "text": "剛才有提到第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/6.wav",
        "text": "未及報請主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/7.wav",
        "text": "事項之辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/8.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在把它放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/9.wav",
        "text": "謹性或是中央主管機關同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/10.wav",
        "text": "各位委員有沒有其他意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/11.wav",
        "text": "動物處新臺幣一千元以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/12.wav",
        "text": "以上簡單說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/13.wav",
        "text": "補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/14.wav",
        "text": "天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/15.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是不是回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/16.wav",
        "text": "因為你用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/17.wav",
        "text": "沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/18.wav",
        "text": "員我們是不是就照修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/19.wav",
        "text": "我們有啦有啦剛剛有講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/20.wav",
        "text": "文字就照這樣修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/21.wav",
        "text": "員所提的附帶決議但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/22.wav",
        "text": "項附帶決議就撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/23.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議請宣讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/24.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/25.wav",
        "text": "審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/26.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有問題的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16340/27.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/0.wav",
        "text": "報告委員會現在開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/1.wav",
        "text": "野保法的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/2.wav",
        "text": "保留了4個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/3.wav",
        "text": "分別是第十九條第二十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/4.wav",
        "text": "第二十一條之一及第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/5.wav",
        "text": "五十一條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/6.wav",
        "text": "此外也保留了1項附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/7.wav",
        "text": "這幾個條文要交付黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/8.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們就針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/9.wav",
        "text": "開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/10.wav",
        "text": "要再說明嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/11.wav",
        "text": "針對上次被保留的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/12.wav",
        "text": "十一條我們說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/13.wav",
        "text": "第十九條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/14.wav",
        "text": "金屬獸鋏是全面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/15.wav",
        "text": "也接受委員的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/16.wav",
        "text": "還有一個是所謂的金屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/17.wav",
        "text": "考量到農民或原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/18.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也考量到它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/19.wav",
        "text": "類的瀕危物種所以我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/20.wav",
        "text": "特定規格也就是大口徑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/21.wav",
        "text": "一定時間的溝通之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/22.wav",
        "text": "能夠禁用但是不宜全面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/23.wav",
        "text": "先講第十九條就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/24.wav",
        "text": "各位委員請問對於第十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/25.wav",
        "text": "十九條的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/26.wav",
        "text": "及文字有沒有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/27.wav",
        "text": "我向大家再補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/28.wav",
        "text": "上次討論的時候大家對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/29.wav",
        "text": "獸鋏的部分其實是有兩派不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/30.wav",
        "text": "意見及看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/31.wav",
        "text": "應該要全面禁用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/32.wav",
        "text": "金屬套索"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/33.wav",
        "text": "然而我們也考量到原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/34.wav",
        "text": "及農民的防治獸害其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/35.wav",
        "text": "某種程度上都還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/36.wav",
        "text": "金屬套索的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/37.wav",
        "text": "不過農業部正在推廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/38.wav",
        "text": "改良式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/39.wav",
        "text": "特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/40.wav",
        "text": "改良式的金屬套索"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/41.wav",
        "text": "現場讓各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/42.wav",
        "text": "能夠清楚了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/43.wav",
        "text": "我認為兼具兩者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/44.wav",
        "text": "立場建議是不是就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/45.wav",
        "text": "的條文內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/46.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/47.wav",
        "text": "可以接受嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/48.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/49.wav",
        "text": "各位委員的支持\n第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/50.wav",
        "text": "就按照行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/51.wav",
        "text": "提案條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/52.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/53.wav",
        "text": "農業部還有建議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/54.wav",
        "text": "第21條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/55.wav",
        "text": "上次經過委員大家的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/56.wav",
        "text": "我們接受委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/57.wav",
        "text": "排除的部分第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/58.wav",
        "text": "第1項本來是第一款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/59.wav",
        "text": "也排除但是我們現在認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/60.wav",
        "text": "及其他爆裂物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/61.wav",
        "text": "不能例外使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/62.wav",
        "text": "因此第21條及第21條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/63.wav",
        "text": "不受第十九條第1項第二款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/64.wav",
        "text": "至第六款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/65.wav",
        "text": "這是第21條及第21條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/66.wav",
        "text": "在第1項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/67.wav",
        "text": "與我們修正的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/68.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/69.wav",
        "text": "第21條及第21條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/70.wav",
        "text": "就是款次的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/71.wav",
        "text": "文字上做一些調整請問大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/72.wav",
        "text": "先討論第21條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/73.wav",
        "text": "對啊第21條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/74.wav",
        "text": "因為你剛才有提到第21條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/75.wav",
        "text": "列為禁止的項目之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/76.wav",
        "text": "要做一些調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/77.wav",
        "text": "我們也不可以使用炸藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/78.wav",
        "text": "所以炸藥是全面禁用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/79.wav",
        "text": "即使緊急的狀況也不可以使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/80.wav",
        "text": "這是第21條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/81.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/82.wav",
        "text": "關於這個部分我補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/83.wav",
        "text": "第21條有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/84.wav",
        "text": "就照農業部提供的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/85.wav",
        "text": "建議條文修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/86.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/87.wav",
        "text": "可以喔我們是否需要再讀一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/88.wav",
        "text": "第21條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/89.wav",
        "text": "有下列情形之一者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/90.wav",
        "text": "以獵捕或宰殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/91.wav",
        "text": "不受第十七條第一項第十八條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/92.wav",
        "text": "第一項及第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/93.wav",
        "text": "第一項第二款至第六款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/94.wav",
        "text": "規定之限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/95.wav",
        "text": "但保育類野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/96.wav",
        "text": "除情況緊急外應先報請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/97.wav",
        "text": "主管機關處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/98.wav",
        "text": "一有危及公共安全或人類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/99.wav",
        "text": "性命之虞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/100.wav",
        "text": "\n二危害農林作物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/101.wav",
        "text": "家禽家畜或水產養殖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/102.wav",
        "text": "\n三傳播疾病或病蟲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/103.wav",
        "text": "\n四有妨礙航空安全之虞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/104.wav",
        "text": "\n五其他經主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/105.wav",
        "text": "核准之情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/106.wav",
        "text": "\n保育類野生動物有危害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/107.wav",
        "text": "農林作物家禽家畜或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/108.wav",
        "text": "水產養殖在緊急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/109.wav",
        "text": "情況下未及報請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/110.wav",
        "text": "主管機關處理者得以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/111.wav",
        "text": "主管機關核定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/112.wav",
        "text": "之人道方式予以獵捕或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/113.wav",
        "text": "宰殺以防治危害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/114.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/115.wav",
        "text": "第21條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/116.wav",
        "text": "農業部建議的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/117.wav",
        "text": "文字修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/118.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是第21條之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/119.wav",
        "text": "第十九條第一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/120.wav",
        "text": "所列的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/121.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也是就文字上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/122.wav",
        "text": "做一些調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/123.wav",
        "text": "第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/124.wav",
        "text": "臺灣原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/125.wav",
        "text": "基於其傳統文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/126.wav",
        "text": "祭儀或非營利自用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/127.wav",
        "text": "而有獵捕宰殺或利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/128.wav",
        "text": "野生動物之必要者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/129.wav",
        "text": "第一項及第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/130.wav",
        "text": "第一項第二款至第六款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/131.wav",
        "text": "第2項前項獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/132.wav",
        "text": "宰殺或利用野生動物之行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/133.wav",
        "text": "應經主管機關核准或備查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/134.wav",
        "text": "其申請核准或備查之情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/135.wav",
        "text": "得獵捕宰殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/136.wav",
        "text": "或利用保育類野生動物之必要情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/137.wav",
        "text": "申請程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/138.wav",
        "text": "應檢附文件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/139.wav",
        "text": "獵捕方式獵捕動物之種類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/140.wav",
        "text": "數量獵捕期間區域管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/141.wav",
        "text": "及其他應遵行事項之辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/142.wav",
        "text": "由中央主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/143.wav",
        "text": "會同中央原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/144.wav",
        "text": "族主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/145.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/146.wav",
        "text": "1是否就照這樣的文字修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/147.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/148.wav",
        "text": "這次的修法其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/149.wav",
        "text": "是為了回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/150.wav",
        "text": "司法院大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/151.wav",
        "text": "對於獵人王光祿案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/152.wav",
        "text": "做出的釋字803"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/153.wav",
        "text": "因此在第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/154.wav",
        "text": "1增列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/155.wav",
        "text": "自用的要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/156.wav",
        "text": "納入了原住民的獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/157.wav",
        "text": "宰殺或利用野生動物的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/158.wav",
        "text": "除罪化範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/159.wav",
        "text": "將它改採備查制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/160.wav",
        "text": "原住民獵捕野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/161.wav",
        "text": "以行政處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/162.wav",
        "text": "取代刑罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/163.wav",
        "text": "關於這個部分我在上個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/164.wav",
        "text": "會期就已經做過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/165.wav",
        "text": "提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/166.wav",
        "text": "是對於原住民狩獵權的維護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/167.wav",
        "text": "也基於民間社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/168.wav",
        "text": "提倡的人道考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/169.wav",
        "text": "對於全面禁用獸鋏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/170.wav",
        "text": "也符合它的解釋意旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/171.wav",
        "text": "的部分我對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/172.wav",
        "text": "這個條文的文字修正不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/173.wav",
        "text": "但我就是要確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/174.wav",
        "text": "在法令落實的操作過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/175.wav",
        "text": "中就與過去的獵槍一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/176.wav",
        "text": "不會因為法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/177.wav",
        "text": "創造的一個模糊空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/178.wav",
        "text": "第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/179.wav",
        "text": "只要是原住民基於傳統文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/180.wav",
        "text": "祭儀或非營利自用而有獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/181.wav",
        "text": "宰殺或利用野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/182.wav",
        "text": "或野生動物的類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/183.wav",
        "text": "都不要用刑罰處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/184.wav",
        "text": "並在第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/185.wav",
        "text": "訂定原住民獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/186.wav",
        "text": "野生動物所應遵循的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/187.wav",
        "text": "辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/188.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我一定要再次的強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/189.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/190.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/191.wav",
        "text": "現行的第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/192.wav",
        "text": "有幾個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/193.wav",
        "text": "現行的條文只有寫傳統文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/194.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/195.wav",
        "text": "在94年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/196.wav",
        "text": "施行之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/197.wav",
        "text": "法雖然我們在第8屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/198.wav",
        "text": "第9屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/199.wav",
        "text": "第10屆一直都有提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/200.wav",
        "text": "但是也一直都沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/201.wav",
        "text": "所以我在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/202.wav",
        "text": "105年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/203.wav",
        "text": "透過相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/204.wav",
        "text": "106年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/205.wav",
        "text": "的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/206.wav",
        "text": "包含了原基法所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/207.wav",
        "text": "非營利自用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/208.wav",
        "text": "事實上這個部分在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/209.wav",
        "text": "106年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/210.wav",
        "text": "非營利自用就已經可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/211.wav",
        "text": "之前提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/212.wav",
        "text": "所有的案子都要經過核准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/213.wav",
        "text": "這是不合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/214.wav",
        "text": "所以我改為備查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/215.wav",
        "text": "既然你們現在把核准與備查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/216.wav",
        "text": "都列在這個條文裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/217.wav",
        "text": "一定要考量到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/218.wav",
        "text": "實際的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/219.wav",
        "text": "還要下山給你們核准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/220.wav",
        "text": "事實上就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/221.wav",
        "text": "勞民傷財"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/222.wav",
        "text": "\n現在就是文字的統一性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/223.wav",
        "text": "我們可以看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/224.wav",
        "text": "後面的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/225.wav",
        "text": "包括其他法律的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/226.wav",
        "text": "這條是單獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/227.wav",
        "text": "因此我建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/228.wav",
        "text": "的臺灣2個字刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/229.wav",
        "text": "也只有寫原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/230.wav",
        "text": "其他的法律條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/231.wav",
        "text": "也都只有寫原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/232.wav",
        "text": "譬如原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/233.wav",
        "text": "而不是臺灣原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/234.wav",
        "text": "譬如原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/235.wav",
        "text": "而不是臺灣原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/236.wav",
        "text": "包括其他的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/237.wav",
        "text": "都是寫原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/238.wav",
        "text": "因為是我們自己的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/239.wav",
        "text": "當然是指臺灣的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/240.wav",
        "text": "不會是國外的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/241.wav",
        "text": "我們去看後面的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/242.wav",
        "text": "就有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/243.wav",
        "text": "行政單位有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/244.wav",
        "text": "剛剛伍委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/245.wav",
        "text": "其實已經在待會要討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/246.wav",
        "text": "至於鄭天財委員的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/247.wav",
        "text": "我們就遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/248.wav",
        "text": "把臺灣2個字刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/249.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/250.wav",
        "text": "基於法律的一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/251.wav",
        "text": "第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/252.wav",
        "text": "刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/253.wav",
        "text": "是不是就照原來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/254.wav",
        "text": "提案通過好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/255.wav",
        "text": "第25條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/256.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員等人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/257.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀並沒有在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/258.wav",
        "text": "委員會裡有過討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/259.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在把它放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/260.wav",
        "text": "討論洪孟楷委員也在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/261.wav",
        "text": "這個部分雖然現行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/262.wav",
        "text": "條文已經表示要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/263.wav",
        "text": "經中央主管機關同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/264.wav",
        "text": "但是從過去到現在我們也看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/265.wav",
        "text": "輸入保育類野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/266.wav",
        "text": "過一些爭議在這樣的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/267.wav",
        "text": "把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/268.wav",
        "text": "的部分夠不夠嚴謹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/269.wav",
        "text": "上應具環境教育機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/270.wav",
        "text": "之資格並經中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/271.wav",
        "text": "主管機關同意其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/272.wav",
        "text": "交流等等的部分但是就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/273.wav",
        "text": "保育類野生動物而言是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/274.wav",
        "text": "有那麼頻繁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/275.wav",
        "text": "輸出的狀況我想這也是值得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/276.wav",
        "text": "商榷因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/277.wav",
        "text": "是不是大家可以研究一下或者主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/278.wav",
        "text": "的立法說明或怎麼樣能夠有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/279.wav",
        "text": "的規定不要讓過去發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/280.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/281.wav",
        "text": "請農業部說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/282.wav",
        "text": "關於委員建議加入具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/283.wav",
        "text": "環境教育機構之資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/284.wav",
        "text": "都不是屬於環境教育機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/285.wav",
        "text": "所以目前我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/286.wav",
        "text": "的審核而且是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/287.wav",
        "text": "基於學術教育等公共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/288.wav",
        "text": "目的及用途在通過我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/289.wav",
        "text": "維持我們目前的審查機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/290.wav",
        "text": "維持現在的現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/291.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/292.wav",
        "text": "請問其他委員有沒有意見\n陳亭妃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/293.wav",
        "text": "部也做了很清楚的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/294.wav",
        "text": "因此我覺得還是維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/295.wav",
        "text": "建議條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/296.wav",
        "text": "主席我可不可以稍微補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/297.wav",
        "text": "剛剛洪委員所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/298.wav",
        "text": "但因為我們是要經中央主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/299.wav",
        "text": "在經中央主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/300.wav",
        "text": "機關同意的過程中也許在立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/301.wav",
        "text": "說明可以再做一些說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/302.wav",
        "text": "譬如我要同意它的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/303.wav",
        "text": "應該要具備什麼樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/304.wav",
        "text": "以後中央主管機關同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/305.wav",
        "text": "但我們在立法說明直接調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/306.wav",
        "text": "不然如果在條文明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/307.wav",
        "text": "應具環境教育機構之資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/308.wav",
        "text": "部長剛剛講的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/309.wav",
        "text": "其實保育類野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/310.wav",
        "text": "輸入輸出本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/311.wav",
        "text": "文字的部分是不是能請同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/312.wav",
        "text": "給我稍微看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/313.wav",
        "text": "如果在我看過之後認為OK的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/314.wav",
        "text": "以依照現行條文但是你的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/315.wav",
        "text": "文字要如何確保未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/316.wav",
        "text": "審查過程的嚴謹性或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/317.wav",
        "text": "中央主管機關同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/318.wav",
        "text": "方向至少要讓我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/319.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/320.wav",
        "text": "我們就文字不改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/321.wav",
        "text": "條文不改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/322.wav",
        "text": "補充說明的部分是不是再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/323.wav",
        "text": "送給洪孟楷委員好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/324.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員有沒有其他意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/325.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/326.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/327.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文不予修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/328.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是第51條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/329.wav",
        "text": "有張啓楷委員及本席的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/330.wav",
        "text": "是不是請張委員先補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/331.wav",
        "text": "我看了行政院版跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/332.wav",
        "text": "很多委員的提案內容大致上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/333.wav",
        "text": "是大同小異啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/334.wav",
        "text": "祭儀或非營利自用獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/335.wav",
        "text": "宰殺或利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/336.wav",
        "text": "野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/337.wav",
        "text": "違反依第21條之1第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/338.wav",
        "text": "辦法中有關申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/339.wav",
        "text": "核准或備查之情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/340.wav",
        "text": "得獵捕宰殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/341.wav",
        "text": "或利用保育類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/342.wav",
        "text": "野生動物之必要情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/343.wav",
        "text": "獵捕方式獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/344.wav",
        "text": "動物之種類數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/345.wav",
        "text": "獵捕期間區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/346.wav",
        "text": "或管理之規定者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/347.wav",
        "text": "依下列規定處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/348.wav",
        "text": "屬保育類野生動物處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/349.wav",
        "text": "新臺幣二萬元以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/350.wav",
        "text": "十萬元以下罰鍰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/351.wav",
        "text": "不適用第四十一條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/352.wav",
        "text": "屬一般類野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/353.wav",
        "text": "處新臺幣一千元以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/354.wav",
        "text": "一萬元下罰鍰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/355.wav",
        "text": "不適用第四十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/356.wav",
        "text": "第一項第二款規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/357.wav",
        "text": "\n因為這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/358.wav",
        "text": "從上個會期就已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/359.wav",
        "text": "與許多委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/360.wav",
        "text": "溝通過很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/361.wav",
        "text": "也在這邊很謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/362.wav",
        "text": "能有這樣的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/363.wav",
        "text": "\n另外針對剛才的那個首次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/364.wav",
        "text": "到底這個首次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/365.wav",
        "text": "是什麼首次因為有很多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/366.wav",
        "text": "條款所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/367.wav",
        "text": "可能需要再做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/368.wav",
        "text": "更清楚的定義要不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/369.wav",
        "text": "還是會落到我剛才所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/370.wav",
        "text": "我們要的就是確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/371.wav",
        "text": "所創造出的模糊空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/372.wav",
        "text": "到時候又讓檢察官及法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/373.wav",
        "text": "有不同的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/374.wav",
        "text": "我希望這個部分要注意以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/375.wav",
        "text": "還是法務部針對2個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/376.wav",
        "text": "一個是首次不罰在文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/377.wav",
        "text": "上的規定是不是夠明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/378.wav",
        "text": "第二個是剛剛鄭天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/379.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/380.wav",
        "text": "後面要加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/381.wav",
        "text": "保育類野生動物或明知屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/382.wav",
        "text": "一般類野生動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/383.wav",
        "text": "我不知道法律用語上是否可以這樣寫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/384.wav",
        "text": "待會可能要請法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/385.wav",
        "text": "農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/386.wav",
        "text": "違反者不罰的部分因為這是現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/387.wav",
        "text": "以前在執行上都不會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/388.wav",
        "text": "問題為什麼因為首次不罰是指"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/389.wav",
        "text": "那個行為人要被處罰的那個人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/390.wav",
        "text": "用這個人來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/391.wav",
        "text": "違反這個規定才會被罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/392.wav",
        "text": "困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/393.wav",
        "text": "不會把你的首次當成我的首次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/394.wav",
        "text": "所以不會有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/395.wav",
        "text": "說明\n另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/396.wav",
        "text": "排除的建議我要先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/397.wav",
        "text": "這一條的罰則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/398.wav",
        "text": "是因應第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/399.wav",
        "text": "之1去看第21條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/400.wav",
        "text": "並沒有排除因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/401.wav",
        "text": "因為它沒有排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/402.wav",
        "text": "就要依第51條之1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/403.wav",
        "text": "予以處罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/404.wav",
        "text": "第8款不該放進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/405.wav",
        "text": "可能要回頭處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/406.wav",
        "text": "第21條之1的條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/407.wav",
        "text": "是在第21條之1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/408.wav",
        "text": "所以原住民族基於其傳統文化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/409.wav",
        "text": "祭儀或非營利自用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/410.wav",
        "text": "而獵捕宰殺動物不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/411.wav",
        "text": "使用經中央主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/412.wav",
        "text": "機關公告的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/413.wav",
        "text": "公告禁止的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/414.wav",
        "text": "這一條的規定它的處罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/415.wav",
        "text": "就會回到第51條之1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/416.wav",
        "text": "會處行政罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/417.wav",
        "text": "不適用刑罰的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/418.wav",
        "text": "第51條之1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/419.wav",
        "text": "其實是對應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/420.wav",
        "text": "第21條之1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/421.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛第21條之1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/422.wav",
        "text": "已經文字修正通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/423.wav",
        "text": "所以第51條之1的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/424.wav",
        "text": "前面第21條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/425.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/426.wav",
        "text": "關於剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/427.wav",
        "text": "疑問"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/428.wav",
        "text": "第一個問題關於首次的認定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/429.wav",
        "text": "言認定首次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/430.wav",
        "text": "應該不是太大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/431.wav",
        "text": "因為這個法已經施行一段時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/432.wav",
        "text": "了\n第二個問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/433.wav",
        "text": "問題剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/434.wav",
        "text": "要不要加上明知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/435.wav",
        "text": "這個要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/436.wav",
        "text": "明知2個字就變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/437.wav",
        "text": "必須是直接故意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/438.wav",
        "text": "等於是排除未必故意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/439.wav",
        "text": "主管機關或檢察機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/440.wav",
        "text": "在執法的過程當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/441.wav",
        "text": "他明明知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/442.wav",
        "text": "保育類野生動物"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/443.wav",
        "text": "這個部分可能會有事實上的困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/444.wav",
        "text": "我不可能預先知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/445.wav",
        "text": "我會捕獲什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/446.wav",
        "text": "或者是在很遠的距離用獵槍瞄準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/447.wav",
        "text": "也不一定能夠判斷自"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/448.wav",
        "text": "己要打的對象就是保育類"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/449.wav",
        "text": "因為舉證上的困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/450.wav",
        "text": "達不到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/451.wav",
        "text": "主管機關所希望達到的政策目的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/452.wav",
        "text": "因此加上明知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/453.wav",
        "text": "將來在舉證上就會產生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/454.wav",
        "text": "比較大的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/455.wav",
        "text": "它提到要特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/456.wav",
        "text": "排除第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/457.wav",
        "text": "這個與主管機關的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/458.wav",
        "text": "似乎是不太一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/459.wav",
        "text": "但是這個部分不是法律上的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/460.wav",
        "text": "聽清楚我的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/461.wav",
        "text": "無論是農業部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/462.wav",
        "text": "或是大法官"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/463.wav",
        "text": "先聽清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/464.wav",
        "text": "實務上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/465.wav",
        "text": "獵捕野生動物"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/466.wav",
        "text": "一般類"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/467.wav",
        "text": "或保育類"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/468.wav",
        "text": "尤其是晚上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/469.wav",
        "text": "尤其是晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/470.wav",
        "text": "基本上都是晚上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/471.wav",
        "text": "大法官才會提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/472.wav",
        "text": "除有特殊例外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/473.wav",
        "text": "除有特殊例外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/474.wav",
        "text": "也因此我才會提"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/475.wav",
        "text": "屬保育類的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/476.wav",
        "text": "加上明知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/477.wav",
        "text": "一般類的前面不用加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/478.wav",
        "text": "就是在屬保育類的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/479.wav",
        "text": "加上明知2個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/480.wav",
        "text": "你們就認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/481.wav",
        "text": "這個也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/482.wav",
        "text": "我首創的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/483.wav",
        "text": "這樣認為啊事實上也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/484.wav",
        "text": "啊晚上本來就看不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/485.wav",
        "text": "都是看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/486.wav",
        "text": "動物亮亮的眼睛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/487.wav",
        "text": "就打了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/488.wav",
        "text": "因此這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/489.wav",
        "text": "在執行上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/490.wav",
        "text": "應該不是那麼困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/491.wav",
        "text": "農業部要不要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/492.wav",
        "text": "我知道委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/493.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是不是回到第51條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/494.wav",
        "text": "這個案子最主要的前半段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/495.wav",
        "text": "違反的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/496.wav",
        "text": "是因為你使用獸鋏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/497.wav",
        "text": "去獵捕動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/498.wav",
        "text": "但主要的問題是因為你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/499.wav",
        "text": "使用我們禁止的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/500.wav",
        "text": "去獵捕動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/501.wav",
        "text": "或一般類野生動物而有不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/502.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是在前面那個使用的概念上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/503.wav",
        "text": "第一款第七款或第八款所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/504.wav",
        "text": "定禁止的方式也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/505.wav",
        "text": "像獸鋏不可使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/506.wav",
        "text": "但你卻一定要使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/507.wav",
        "text": "所以這裡並不是講後面獵捕到的動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/508.wav",
        "text": "重點是在前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/509.wav",
        "text": "你使用了什麼方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/510.wav",
        "text": "處罰是因為你用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/511.wav",
        "text": "這個方式去獵捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/512.wav",
        "text": "因為你用這種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/513.wav",
        "text": "\n至於後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/514.wav",
        "text": "一般"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/515.wav",
        "text": "這是另外一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/516.wav",
        "text": "但是前面這個處罰要件是講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/517.wav",
        "text": "你使用了這個工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/518.wav",
        "text": "禁止的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/519.wav",
        "text": "你講的是前面的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/520.wav",
        "text": "但是第51條之1不是只有這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/521.wav",
        "text": "還有後半段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/522.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/523.wav",
        "text": "經過核准"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/524.wav",
        "text": "或經過備查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/525.wav",
        "text": "符合啊使"
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        "text": "用獵槍"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/527.wav",
        "text": "或是符合備查"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/528.wav",
        "text": "不小心獵到保育類動物"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/529.wav",
        "text": "並不會罰只要他通報"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/530.wav",
        "text": "就不會被罰"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/531.wav",
        "text": "這邊會處罰的是他沒有"
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        "text": "經過申請"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/533.wav",
        "text": "等於是他就直接去獵捕"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/534.wav",
        "text": "動物才會進入到剛剛講的這個部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/535.wav",
        "text": "因此只要是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/536.wav",
        "text": "依法申請者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/537.wav",
        "text": "者誤捕是不會被罰的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/538.wav",
        "text": "如果依照你們"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/539.wav",
        "text": "這樣的說明這個就"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/540.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員講的大法官解釋"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/541.wav",
        "text": "首次不罰"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/542.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員我們是不是"
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        "text": "本來原條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/544.wav",
        "text": "就有了原條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/545.wav",
        "text": "就有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/546.wav",
        "text": "我們將首次不罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/547.wav",
        "text": "納進去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/548.wav",
        "text": "再把它納回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/549.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有講了我們修正的文字"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/550.wav",
        "text": "是不是請議事人員再念一次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/551.wav",
        "text": "必要情形獵捕方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/552.wav",
        "text": "獵捕動物之種類"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/553.wav",
        "text": "數量獵捕期間區域"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/554.wav",
        "text": "或管理之規定者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/555.wav",
        "text": "依下列規定處罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/556.wav",
        "text": "但首次違反者不罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/557.wav",
        "text": "一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/558.wav",
        "text": "屬保育類野生動物處新臺幣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/559.wav",
        "text": "二萬元以上十萬元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/560.wav",
        "text": "以下罰鍰不適用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/561.wav",
        "text": "第四十一條規定"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/562.wav",
        "text": "二屬一般類野生動物"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/563.wav",
        "text": "處新臺幣一千元以上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/564.wav",
        "text": "一萬元下罰鍰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/565.wav",
        "text": "不適用第四十九條第1項第二款規定"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/566.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來要討論附帶決議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/567.wav",
        "text": "目前有蔡易餘委員所提的附帶決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/568.wav",
        "text": "但是蔡委員已經同意撤案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/569.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員有沒有意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/570.wav",
        "text": "增鄭天財委員所提的附帶決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/571.wav",
        "text": "請宣讀"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/572.wav",
        "text": "套索等獵具在原住民族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/573.wav",
        "text": "傳統文化具有不可替代性"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/574.wav",
        "text": "未來農業部依據《野生動物"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/575.wav",
        "text": "保育法》第十九條第一項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/576.wav",
        "text": "第八款依法公告"
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        "text": "其他禁止獵捕"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/578.wav",
        "text": "野生動物之方法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/579.wav",
        "text": "應先會商原住民族委員會後"
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        "text": "公告此外"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/581.wav",
        "text": "農業部應會同原住民族"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/582.wav",
        "text": "委員會透過自主狩獵管理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/583.wav",
        "text": "並將團隊及"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/584.wav",
        "text": "地方原民行政體系"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/585.wav",
        "text": "原住民族地區辦理說明會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/586.wav",
        "text": "將資訊充分傳達部落族人瞭解"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/587.wav",
        "text": "這個遵照辦理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/588.wav",
        "text": "我們就照案通過"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/589.wav",
        "text": "\n我唸一下協商結論"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/590.wav",
        "text": "二十一條第"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/591.wav",
        "text": "二十一條之一第五十一條之一"
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        "text": "條文及修正動議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/593.wav",
        "text": "均照協商條文通過"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/594.wav",
        "text": "第二十五條維持"
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        "text": "現行條文審查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/596.wav",
        "text": "會保留附帶決議一項"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/597.wav",
        "text": "並新增一項附帶決議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/598.wav",
        "text": "其餘條文均照審查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/599.wav",
        "text": "會審查結果通過通過"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/600.wav",
        "text": "新增附帶決議一項"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/601.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有問題的話今天協商"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16341/602.wav",
        "text": "就到此結束"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/0.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分就是要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/1.wav",
        "text": "114年的1月22日"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/2.wav",
        "text": "不用好以"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/3.wav",
        "text": "0年的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/4.wav",
        "text": "我們的建議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/5.wav",
        "text": "就是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/6.wav",
        "text": "其他的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/7.wav",
        "text": "署沒有辦法解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/8.wav",
        "text": "過去為什麼會去縱"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/9.wav",
        "text": "不管是國民黨"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/10.wav",
        "text": "這個條例"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/11.wav",
        "text": "要有一個"
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    {
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        "text": "看一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/13.wav",
        "text": "這是是因為"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/14.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16327/15.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/0.wav",
        "text": "今天主要是針對上次的兩個條文進行協商"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/1.wav",
        "text": "各位對於它的內容有什麼要說明補充"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/2.wav",
        "text": "或者是要透過協調來說明的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/3.wav",
        "text": "還是內容有什麼需要微調的部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/4.wav",
        "text": "跟召委和各位委員報告一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/5.wav",
        "text": "因為雪生委員後來又有提補充說明"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/6.wav",
        "text": "他同意刪除"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/7.wav",
        "text": "但是站在交通部觀光署的立場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/8.wav",
        "text": "我們希望發展觀光條例的第7條"
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        "text": "其他部分就按照原條文來維持"
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        "text": "麻煩召委跟各位委員能夠支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/11.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛署長完全沒有新意"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/12.wav",
        "text": "還是維持之前的立場是不是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/13.wav",
        "text": "這樣你不是說有些要調整的嗎沒有嗎還沒弄"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/14.wav",
        "text": "兩點嘛第一點就是"
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        "text": "第一個是年限就是延5年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/16.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分就是要你們1年之內報告什麼"
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        "text": "就是本來是114年的1月22日"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/18.wav",
        "text": "日延到12月31日"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/19.wav",
        "text": "就是同年114年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/20.wav",
        "text": "第二個是不要另訂要點"
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        "text": "這是因為協商過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/22.wav",
        "text": "了今天好像雪生委員也有特別提一個案"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/23.wav",
        "text": "就是維持不調整不修正那個要點"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/24.wav",
        "text": "就是這兩點補充報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/25.wav",
        "text": "桌上這一本審查報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/26.wav",
        "text": "告的第43頁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/27.wav",
        "text": "目前通過的版本第7條"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/28.wav",
        "text": "之2的內容是這樣於"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/29.wav",
        "text": "於本條例"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/30.wav",
        "text": "中華民國104年一月二十二"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/31.wav",
        "text": "修正施行前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/32.wav",
        "text": "非以營利為目的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/33.wav",
        "text": "且供特定對象住宿之場所"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/34.wav",
        "text": "而有營業之事實者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/35.wav",
        "text": "應予展延五年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/36.wav",
        "text": "這是第一段"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/37.wav",
        "text": "就是再延5年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/38.wav",
        "text": "接下來就是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/39.wav",
        "text": "自本修正條文公布之日"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/40.wav",
        "text": "起一年內由中央主管機關訂定本法"
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        "text": "住宿管理辦法統一管理之"
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        "text": "你們是比較希望後段能夠調整"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/43.wav",
        "text": "因為雪生委員也有來嘛"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/44.wav",
        "text": "就是不用再另定了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/45.wav",
        "text": "就是維持原條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/46.wav",
        "text": "觀光飯店"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/47.wav",
        "text": "按照目前的管理辦法就可以了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/48.wav",
        "text": "不用再另訂管理辦法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/49.wav",
        "text": "上是觀光署的建議不"
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        "text": "延5年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/51.wav",
        "text": "的部分我們是堅持我們的立場"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/52.wav",
        "text": "回溯到104年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/53.wav",
        "text": "另訂一個特"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/54.wav",
        "text": "部分把它刪掉了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/55.wav",
        "text": "因為特定對象沒定義"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/56.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是我們下次修法的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/57.wav",
        "text": "再來處理這個部分好不好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/58.wav",
        "text": "\n這樣好不好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/59.wav",
        "text": "這邊有一個修正的版本"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/60.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我先唸一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/61.wav",
        "text": "於本條例"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/62.wav",
        "text": "中華民國104年一月二十二日"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/63.wav",
        "text": "修正施行前"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/64.wav",
        "text": "非以營利為目的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/65.wav",
        "text": "且供特定對象住宿之場所"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/66.wav",
        "text": "而有營業之事實者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/67.wav",
        "text": "修正施行之日起十年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/68.wav",
        "text": "再展延五年至一百十九年一月二十一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/69.wav",
        "text": "向地方主管機關申請旅館業登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/70.wav",
        "text": "領取登記證及專用標識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/71.wav",
        "text": "始得繼續營業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/72.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛唸的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/73.wav",
        "text": "後段就是原有條文的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/74.wav",
        "text": "但是日程的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/75.wav",
        "text": "我們就再展延5年到119年1月21日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/76.wav",
        "text": "日不用另訂這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/77.wav",
        "text": "如果有需要我們下次修法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/78.wav",
        "text": "再另案討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/79.wav",
        "text": "\n我們就用這個新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/80.wav",
        "text": "就是確定延5年這個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/81.wav",
        "text": "後面另訂辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/82.wav",
        "text": "我覺得以後再來詳細談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/83.wav",
        "text": "我們觀光署還是希望維持原來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/84.wav",
        "text": "最多是考慮到一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/85.wav",
        "text": "我們的建議是這個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/86.wav",
        "text": "對對對我們這邊提的修的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/87.wav",
        "text": "下面的一年內要訂什麼辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/88.wav",
        "text": "這樣啦我覺得部長有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/89.wav",
        "text": "署長也有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/90.wav",
        "text": "那到底什麼叫做發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/91.wav",
        "text": "你們根本就不是發展觀光條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/92.wav",
        "text": "一個就是你們要提出特別的管理辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/93.wav",
        "text": "來輔導它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/94.wav",
        "text": "讓它就地合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/95.wav",
        "text": "可是我們講了老半天你們也不聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/96.wav",
        "text": "這樣我不曉得你們要幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/97.wav",
        "text": "\n你們有辦法去輔導它嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/98.wav",
        "text": "事實上之前延了那些時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/99.wav",
        "text": "是有少部分已經合法化了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/100.wav",
        "text": "那你再給它延個5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/101.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講仁至義盡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/102.wav",
        "text": "我給你5年你還是不能成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/103.wav",
        "text": "那我就公事公辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/104.wav",
        "text": "這個在做任何事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/105.wav",
        "text": "人家說情理法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/106.wav",
        "text": "你不要把法排在前面嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/107.wav",
        "text": "如果是這個你們是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/108.wav",
        "text": "那麼訂定一個辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/109.wav",
        "text": "以後再講無所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/110.wav",
        "text": "但是這個時間你們要去把握嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/111.wav",
        "text": "因為我記得你們上次有一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/112.wav",
        "text": "提到已經輔導了二十幾家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/113.wav",
        "text": "我給你們這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/114.wav",
        "text": "再給你們5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/115.wav",
        "text": "你們都做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/116.wav",
        "text": "那你不能怪政府啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/117.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我是建議部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/118.wav",
        "text": "有時候這些東西當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/119.wav",
        "text": "就是要考慮到很多面向的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/120.wav",
        "text": "這是要促進觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/121.wav",
        "text": "並非是要縱容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/122.wav",
        "text": "而是歷史上我已經告訴你們了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/123.wav",
        "text": "政府國產署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/124.wav",
        "text": "只要是72年以前所成立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/125.wav",
        "text": "他們也不強制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/126.wav",
        "text": "他們也是不強制啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/127.wav",
        "text": "更何況以一般違章建築的處理方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/128.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講我再給你5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/129.wav",
        "text": "你自己土地變更不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/130.wav",
        "text": "政府不租給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/131.wav",
        "text": "是你家的事啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/132.wav",
        "text": "所以一定要有一個時間給人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/133.wav",
        "text": "這才是一個有為政府嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/134.wav",
        "text": "才是真正解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/135.wav",
        "text": "但不能說5年到了還要再延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/136.wav",
        "text": "支持你們用強硬的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/137.wav",
        "text": "其他的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/138.wav",
        "text": "土地的變更問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/139.wav",
        "text": "租賃的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/140.wav",
        "text": "你們要去解決啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/141.wav",
        "text": "我辦法給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/142.wav",
        "text": "不能解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/143.wav",
        "text": "我坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/144.wav",
        "text": "你們應該要去輔導它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/145.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法解決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/146.wav",
        "text": "你們要用行政的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/147.wav",
        "text": "讓它去變通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/148.wav",
        "text": "變成合法化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/149.wav",
        "text": "我說實在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/150.wav",
        "text": "你們過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/151.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會去縱容它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/152.wav",
        "text": "所以我一直在強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/153.wav",
        "text": "這是歷史上的違規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/154.wav",
        "text": "政府當然也要負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/155.wav",
        "text": "政府是延續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/156.wav",
        "text": "不管是國民黨也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/157.wav",
        "text": "誰執政也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/158.wav",
        "text": "本來就是為什麼要縱容它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/159.wav",
        "text": "他們都有建照喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/160.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/161.wav",
        "text": "我真的要建議部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/162.wav",
        "text": "還有署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/163.wav",
        "text": "要有一個行政通融的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/164.wav",
        "text": "1年延1年怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/165.wav",
        "text": "它要變更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/166.wav",
        "text": "或是國土署要幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/167.wav",
        "text": "都沒有辦法幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/168.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/169.wav",
        "text": "現在這個是經過你們協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/170.wav",
        "text": "如果能延5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/171.wav",
        "text": "政府已經仁至義盡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/172.wav",
        "text": "踩得很硬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/173.wav",
        "text": "你沒有辦法去做到我的管理標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/174.wav",
        "text": "那對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/175.wav",
        "text": "你不能怪我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/176.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/177.wav",
        "text": "我是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/178.wav",
        "text": "我們政府也不要那麼強硬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/179.wav",
        "text": "啦因為他們所有的建照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/180.wav",
        "text": "但是我贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/181.wav",
        "text": "你們在整個公安部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/182.wav",
        "text": "要非常嚴謹地去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/183.wav",
        "text": "是真的要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/184.wav",
        "text": "嚴加管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/185.wav",
        "text": "但是我是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/186.wav",
        "text": "這些你們訂定的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/187.wav",
        "text": "下一次再來訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/188.wav",
        "text": "那就不能怪我們政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/189.wav",
        "text": "我是比較主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/190.wav",
        "text": "延5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/191.wav",
        "text": "其他可以先不要訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/192.wav",
        "text": "但是在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/193.wav",
        "text": "板啦我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/194.wav",
        "text": "這個牽涉太廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/195.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/196.wav",
        "text": "請陳雪生委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/197.wav",
        "text": "把你調整的內容說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/198.wav",
        "text": "昨天署長到我辦公室來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/199.wav",
        "text": "我們研商這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/200.wav",
        "text": "這裡面有變化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/201.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/202.wav",
        "text": "是你的意思還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/203.wav",
        "text": "交通部的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/204.wav",
        "text": "他們有說如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/205.wav",
        "text": "但是後面確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/206.wav",
        "text": "文字可以調成這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/207.wav",
        "text": "但他剛剛有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/208.wav",
        "text": "他們的立場還是到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/209.wav",
        "text": "我沒有同意他後面這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/210.wav",
        "text": "我同意的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/211.wav",
        "text": "昨天我有簽字的那個啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/212.wav",
        "text": "我簽字不是這一張啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/213.wav",
        "text": "我簽字那個後面沒有這些字眼啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/214.wav",
        "text": "我看一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/215.wav",
        "text": "還是給雪生委員看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/216.wav",
        "text": "你是跟我講只是變動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/217.wav",
        "text": "這是我之前的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/218.wav",
        "text": "不是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/219.wav",
        "text": "不是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/220.wav",
        "text": "我修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/221.wav",
        "text": "10年再展延5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/222.wav",
        "text": "只是講再展延5年就沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/223.wav",
        "text": "下面就沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/224.wav",
        "text": "對就之前法律後面是這樣寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/225.wav",
        "text": "就等於說沒有變動就接上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/226.wav",
        "text": "後面不寫行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/227.wav",
        "text": "照國成兄的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/228.wav",
        "text": "好游顥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/229.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/230.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/231.wav",
        "text": "目前看起來民進黨沒有出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/232.wav",
        "text": "可能沒有辦法有具體的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/233.wav",
        "text": "我們就把原來我們通過的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/234.wav",
        "text": "加上今天雪生委員協商協調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/235.wav",
        "text": "一併送院長來做進一步的院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/236.wav",
        "text": "因為有政黨沒有出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/237.wav",
        "text": "但還是可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/238.wav",
        "text": "討論結果就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/239.wav",
        "text": "有提出來一個優化的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/240.wav",
        "text": "由院長召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/241.wav",
        "text": "所以本案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/242.wav",
        "text": "建請院長召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/243.wav",
        "text": "好沒有其他意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/244.wav",
        "text": "建請院長召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/245.wav",
        "text": "針對第7條之2的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/246.wav",
        "text": "\n以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/247.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來還有第53條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/248.wav",
        "text": "也要討論的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/249.wav",
        "text": "保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/250.wav",
        "text": "觀光署要不要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/251.wav",
        "text": "點在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/252.wav",
        "text": "是有關於這些旅行社"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/253.wav",
        "text": "譬如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/254.wav",
        "text": "它在國外丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/255.wav",
        "text": "按照第53條的基本精神來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/256.wav",
        "text": "對於我們國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/257.wav",
        "text": "的這些榮譽聲譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/258.wav",
        "text": "確實是有損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/259.wav",
        "text": "所以這件事情我們還是希望能夠維持原條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/260.wav",
        "text": "好原本我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/261.wav",
        "text": "委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/262.wav",
        "text": "我還記得就是擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/263.wav",
        "text": "你的用途太廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/264.wav",
        "text": "就是你想到什麼就用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/265.wav",
        "text": "了就開罰了大家是擔心這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/266.wav",
        "text": "各位委員有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/267.wav",
        "text": "請黃健豪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/268.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/269.wav",
        "text": "我跟部長署長講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/270.wav",
        "text": "這一條有關玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/271.wav",
        "text": "榮譽損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/272.wav",
        "text": "是在民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/273.wav",
        "text": "五十幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/274.wav",
        "text": "我跟你們調的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/275.wav",
        "text": "案例有幾個一個就是民國95年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/276.wav",
        "text": "因為丟包旅客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/277.wav",
        "text": "媒體披露之後影響國家形象玷辱國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/278.wav",
        "text": "榮譽所以開罰它15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/279.wav",
        "text": "另外一個是在近代109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/280.wav",
        "text": "12月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/281.wav",
        "text": "地下國內外的匯兌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/282.wav",
        "text": "業務破壞國家對金融機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/283.wav",
        "text": "跟市場交易的監督管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/284.wav",
        "text": "所以影響國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/285.wav",
        "text": "第三個是110年5月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/286.wav",
        "text": "因為防疫的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/287.wav",
        "text": "也是認為這損及了國家利益以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/288.wav",
        "text": "有損害消費者生命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/289.wav",
        "text": "身體健康之虞因此罰款15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/290.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是這些案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/291.wav",
        "text": "跟玷辱國家榮譽損害國家利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/292.wav",
        "text": "我覺得沒有必然關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/293.wav",
        "text": "剛剛提到的這些案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/294.wav",
        "text": "比如地下匯兌的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/295.wav",
        "text": "應該有其他法律可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/296.wav",
        "text": "因為疫情發生事情的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/297.wav",
        "text": "當時也有特別條例可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/298.wav",
        "text": "所以我就覺得這些東西你把它放在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/299.wav",
        "text": "觀光業裡面好像變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/300.wav",
        "text": "架在業者脖子上的刀子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/301.wav",
        "text": "如果要認定的話應該是經由法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/302.wav",
        "text": "認定上次說要經由法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/303.wav",
        "text": "認定的時候司法院又說沒有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/304.wav",
        "text": "的法律要去定義這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/305.wav",
        "text": "非常困難我就說如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/306.wav",
        "text": "連司法院都覺得這件事情很難定義的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/307.wav",
        "text": "那麼你在行政裁量上要怎麼去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/308.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這件事情的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/309.wav",
        "text": "提出的一個疑問謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/310.wav",
        "text": "是因為我們都會按照實際的案例來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/311.wav",
        "text": "窒礙難行之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/312.wav",
        "text": "條文的明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/313.wav",
        "text": "對於我們在執行公務上來講確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/314.wav",
        "text": "這個司法院有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/315.wav",
        "text": "這樣子好了我們這幾個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/316.wav",
        "text": "因為今天還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/317.wav",
        "text": "我也拜託觀光署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/318.wav",
        "text": "在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/319.wav",
        "text": "院長協調的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/320.wav",
        "text": "能夠稍微再具體化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/321.wav",
        "text": "委員擔心的那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/322.wav",
        "text": "主要的樣態可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/323.wav",
        "text": "你也比較好說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/324.wav",
        "text": "因為你說不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/325.wav",
        "text": "我們希望把樣態更明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/326.wav",
        "text": "在院長協調的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/327.wav",
        "text": "能夠比較好協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/328.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/329.wav",
        "text": "一樣就交由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/330.wav",
        "text": "來召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/331.wav",
        "text": "同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/332.wav",
        "text": "以上兩條都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/333.wav",
        "text": "召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/334.wav",
        "text": "協商會議就到這邊為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16325/335.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家參加謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/0.wav",
        "text": "溝通大家都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1.wav",
        "text": "接下來請各黨團幹部來簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/2.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/3.wav",
        "text": "因為我們案子比較多讓大家等了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/4.wav",
        "text": "我們現在研商有關原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/5.wav",
        "text": "組織法第3條第4條及第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/6.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/7.wav",
        "text": "本案於10月6日由國民黨團吳宗憲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/8.wav",
        "text": "召集併案協商委員鄭天財等16人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/9.wav",
        "text": "及委員高金素梅等24人分別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/10.wav",
        "text": "擬具原住民族委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/11.wav",
        "text": "第3條及第4條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/12.wav",
        "text": "以及院會逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/13.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會組織法第3條及第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/14.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/15.wav",
        "text": "及委員鄭天財等18人擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/16.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會組織法第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/17.wav",
        "text": "第4條及第7條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/18.wav",
        "text": "案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/19.wav",
        "text": "各黨團代表均出席討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/20.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/21.wav",
        "text": "也請民進黨團說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/22.wav",
        "text": "請表達各位的寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/23.wav",
        "text": "\n我們提案的鄭天財委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/24.wav",
        "text": "還有我們行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/25.wav",
        "text": "有關原住民族委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/26.wav",
        "text": "第3條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/27.wav",
        "text": "原來我提的這個第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/28.wav",
        "text": "我在委員會審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/29.wav",
        "text": "也提了修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/30.wav",
        "text": "第3條的第2項就已經不列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/31.wav",
        "text": "所以後來逕付二讀第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/32.wav",
        "text": "也沒有這個第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/33.wav",
        "text": "我們第2項就不用討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/34.wav",
        "text": "\n之所以第3條的第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/35.wav",
        "text": "要由山地原住民與平地原住民輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/36.wav",
        "text": "最主要就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/37.wav",
        "text": "原住民族所在的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/38.wav",
        "text": "有30個山地鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/39.wav",
        "text": "還有25個平地原住民的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/40.wav",
        "text": "工作就業的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/41.wav",
        "text": "在都會區也已經達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/42.wav",
        "text": "百分之四十幾了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/43.wav",
        "text": "所以全臺灣都有我們原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/44.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的一個情形之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/45.wav",
        "text": "因為山地原住民跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/46.wav",
        "text": "幅員這麼遼闊主任委員對這些地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/47.wav",
        "text": "不是那麼全盤了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/48.wav",
        "text": "擔任來看原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/49.wav",
        "text": "開始成立到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/50.wav",
        "text": "將近20年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/51.wav",
        "text": "譬如說馬英九執政的8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/52.wav",
        "text": "都是平地原住民當主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/53.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣算起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/54.wav",
        "text": "就已經有20"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/55.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民大概只有擔任7年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/56.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/57.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠有山原跟平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/58.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任以上做這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/59.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鄭天財委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/60.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請高金委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/61.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝第3條我同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/62.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/63.wav",
        "text": "包括陳瑩委員也是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/64.wav",
        "text": "我是山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/65.wav",
        "text": "在憲法裡面就分平地原住民跟山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/66.wav",
        "text": "我們只有針對第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/67.wav",
        "text": "轉達伍麗華委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/68.wav",
        "text": "其實在我們的16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/69.wav",
        "text": "16族裡面即便是阿美族也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/70.wav",
        "text": "或者泰雅族也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/71.wav",
        "text": "甚至還有很多的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/72.wav",
        "text": "不是像泰雅族就全部都是山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/73.wav",
        "text": "也有部分的泰雅族在南庄他們是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/74.wav",
        "text": "當然還有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/75.wav",
        "text": "排灣族魯凱族也是一樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/76.wav",
        "text": "很多的族群都有這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/77.wav",
        "text": "只是比例多少問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/78.wav",
        "text": "如果父母都是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/79.wav",
        "text": "一個是山原一個是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/80.wav",
        "text": "當然他們未來的身分也都可以改來改去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/81.wav",
        "text": "\n現在就是回歸到主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/82.wav",
        "text": "本席還是認為能力上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/83.wav",
        "text": "能不能擔任這個職位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/84.wav",
        "text": "才是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/85.wav",
        "text": "當然我們被分成山原平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/86.wav",
        "text": "是過去有一些不得已的歷史背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/87.wav",
        "text": "未來或許大家也會努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/88.wav",
        "text": "我跟伍麗華委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/89.wav",
        "text": "還是最重要的大概是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/90.wav",
        "text": "陳瑩委員的意思是不同意第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/91.wav",
        "text": "曾主委發言之後請吳思瑤委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/92.wav",
        "text": "我這邊的意見是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/93.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/94.wav",
        "text": "其實只有在選舉的時候不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/95.wav",
        "text": "我選山原你選平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/96.wav",
        "text": "所有的權利都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/97.wav",
        "text": "譬如說我是山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/98.wav",
        "text": "還有業務推動不會因為我是山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/99.wav",
        "text": "而不照顧其他平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/100.wav",
        "text": "所以這個沒有一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/101.wav",
        "text": "能不能適任這個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/102.wav",
        "text": "才是比較重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/103.wav",
        "text": "不是哪一個族比較重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/104.wav",
        "text": "謝謝非常尊重提案委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/105.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也花了一些時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/106.wav",
        "text": "去了解一下這些歷史的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/107.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們也了解原住民族的社會裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/108.wav",
        "text": "現在的趨勢是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/109.wav",
        "text": "反而更想去打破山原跟平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/110.wav",
        "text": "這種的差異分別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/111.wav",
        "text": "它畢竟來自於殖民時期一個歷史的遺留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/112.wav",
        "text": "現在在都會區混居的原住民朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/113.wav",
        "text": "也是多數了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/114.wav",
        "text": "所以分別去區別身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/115.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個已經有點走回頭路的感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/116.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個事情我也非常同意剛剛幾位委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/117.wav",
        "text": "用人唯才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/118.wav",
        "text": "在舉薦優良人才的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/119.wav",
        "text": "行政權在人事權的任用上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/120.wav",
        "text": "我相信任命者都會以適"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/121.wav",
        "text": "才適所作為一個主要的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/122.wav",
        "text": "在山原或平原的差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/123.wav",
        "text": "李登輝時期任用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/124.wav",
        "text": "的是山原的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/125.wav",
        "text": "阿扁時期則是有2位山原2位平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/126.wav",
        "text": "馬英九執政的時期任命的3位都是平原的原住民代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/127.wav",
        "text": "小英總統的時期是任命平原的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/128.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統是任命山原的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/129.wav",
        "text": "對於山原平原都有非常平均的分布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/130.wav",
        "text": "也不能講平均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/131.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得用人唯才是核心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/132.wav",
        "text": "但如果以這個分布來分析的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/133.wav",
        "text": "事實上都有兼顧並沒有特"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/134.wav",
        "text": "特別側重於山原或是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/135.wav",
        "text": "被劣勢了被弱勢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/136.wav",
        "text": "所以事實上是沒有的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/137.wav",
        "text": "回到一個用人唯才的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/138.wav",
        "text": "上而不是在意區域別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/139.wav",
        "text": "或是身分別或是民族別的因素去考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/140.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是不支持這樣一個修法的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/141.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/142.wav",
        "text": "接下來請林思銘書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/143.wav",
        "text": "首先我也是要表明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/144.wav",
        "text": "適才適任專業的人來擔任主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/145.wav",
        "text": "這絕對是OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/146.wav",
        "text": "的但是山原跟平原輪流來擔任我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/147.wav",
        "text": "不管是山原也好平原也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/148.wav",
        "text": "都有非常優秀的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/149.wav",
        "text": "因為我們看歷年以來都是由平原來擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/150.wav",
        "text": "難道山原就沒有優秀的人才嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/151.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也不能一概而論的說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/152.wav",
        "text": "由平原來擔任好像平原就比較優秀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/153.wav",
        "text": "喔其實我們看到現在整個的公職人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/154.wav",
        "text": "不管是我們立委也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/155.wav",
        "text": "或者是我們的地方縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/156.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民議員以及平地原住民議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/157.wav",
        "text": "都有這樣的區別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/158.wav",
        "text": "主委應該由山地原住民跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/159.wav",
        "text": "族群的帶領才會有一個平衡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/160.wav",
        "text": "效果這也是在培養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/161.wav",
        "text": "相關的人才所以我們認為有輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/162.wav",
        "text": "但如果大家的意見一直是不一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/163.wav",
        "text": "我們就保留送院會處理謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/164.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘委員請台灣民眾黨發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/165.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨不發言接下來請蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/166.wav",
        "text": "事實上大家的目的都是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/167.wav",
        "text": "唯才原民會的主委可以好好的照顧原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/168.wav",
        "text": "我們為什麼一定要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/169.wav",
        "text": "原住民再區分山原跟平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/170.wav",
        "text": "然後把他做這樣一個區隔化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/171.wav",
        "text": "其實真正有意義的區隔是指他的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/172.wav",
        "text": "像魯凱族阿美族這才是一個有意義的區隔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/173.wav",
        "text": "如果按照這樣的一個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/174.wav",
        "text": "那就叫做輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/175.wav",
        "text": "他不得連任或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/176.wav",
        "text": "內閣有替換的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/177.wav",
        "text": "他就必須要被換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/178.wav",
        "text": "掉是有這樣一個概念在因為是輪流嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/179.wav",
        "text": "而且因為他沒有任期制所以如果今天是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/180.wav",
        "text": "一個表現很好的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/181.wav",
        "text": "因為輪流所以他就不得連任了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/182.wav",
        "text": "不得繼續當了這樣的話對於原住民是最好的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/183.wav",
        "text": "也就是說因為這個政策是一個非常中性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/184.wav",
        "text": "主要是要用人就是找最好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/185.wav",
        "text": "人來擔任原住民的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/186.wav",
        "text": "若採輪流的話也許一個表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/187.wav",
        "text": "很好的主委就因為卡在輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/188.wav",
        "text": "完全卡住了因為不得連任要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/189.wav",
        "text": "輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/190.wav",
        "text": "雖然人才很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/191.wav",
        "text": "所以現在輪流下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/192.wav",
        "text": "就會變得非常狹隘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/193.wav",
        "text": "每一個部會首長都會有政治責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/194.wav",
        "text": "必須為政治責任而下臺下臺後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/195.wav",
        "text": "人這樣真的很怪我覺得大家可以再思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/196.wav",
        "text": "謝謝蔡易餘書記長發言現在請高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/197.wav",
        "text": "我補充一下謝謝蔡易餘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/198.wav",
        "text": "會剝奪行政院長的任命權並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/199.wav",
        "text": "的任期更換的如果這個行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/200.wav",
        "text": "離開的話那麼下一個行政院長就要聘用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/201.wav",
        "text": "輪流這兩個字並沒有卡到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/202.wav",
        "text": "他本來就必須跟著行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/203.wav",
        "text": "因為李坤城委員第一次舉手我們先讓李委員發言好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/204.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道用人唯才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/205.wav",
        "text": "其實不應該去做區分不論是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/206.wav",
        "text": "這些現在是民主社會時代沒有在分族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/207.wav",
        "text": "省籍等等這些條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/208.wav",
        "text": "輪流由山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/209.wav",
        "text": "我認為是走回頭路\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/210.wav",
        "text": "其實我們並沒有在區分大家都是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/211.wav",
        "text": "做考量這會比考量族群背景是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/212.wav",
        "text": "我認為這樣會比較妥當一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/213.wav",
        "text": "是沒有被保障的即便隨院長同進退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/214.wav",
        "text": "但同一個院長可能在任期中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/215.wav",
        "text": "一位以上的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/216.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/217.wav",
        "text": "那麼我倒覺得下面的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/218.wav",
        "text": "山原平原的平衡或各族群的平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/219.wav",
        "text": "確實因為輪流怎麼輪很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/220.wav",
        "text": "是兩次的山原還是兩次的平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/221.wav",
        "text": "可以有一個彈性的輪流嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/222.wav",
        "text": "平原完了一定是山原山原完了一定是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/223.wav",
        "text": "擔任了8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/224.wav",
        "text": "現在換曾主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/225.wav",
        "text": "如果這次修正通過之後下一個一定又是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/226.wav",
        "text": "萬一不小心曾主委沒有做很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/227.wav",
        "text": "請問後面會不會又變成平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/228.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我舉這個例子大家是很熟的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/229.wav",
        "text": "曾主委臉色很難看請繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/230.wav",
        "text": "但我認為能力才是最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/231.wav",
        "text": "的如果真的要考慮平衡那麼我建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/232.wav",
        "text": "我們就看看三個副主委該怎麼樣去取得平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/233.wav",
        "text": "我建議大家可以往這個方面思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/234.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳瑩委員鄭天財委員請發言吳思瑤委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/235.wav",
        "text": "大家都強調用人唯才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/236.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/237.wav",
        "text": "的人才很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/238.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民的人才也很多啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/239.wav",
        "text": "所以這個不是問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/240.wav",
        "text": "絕對會是我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/241.wav",
        "text": "這個行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/242.wav",
        "text": "所任用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/243.wav",
        "text": "不論是山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/244.wav",
        "text": "山原下次改為平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/245.wav",
        "text": "我們的人才都很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/246.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分不會影響到用人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/247.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/248.wav",
        "text": "發言吳思瑤委員完畢之後台灣民眾黨如果不發言我們要進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/249.wav",
        "text": "這一個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/250.wav",
        "text": "我從來不會想去區分不同的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/251.wav",
        "text": "中你是族群裡面的誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/252.wav",
        "text": "所以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/253.wav",
        "text": "我認為這幾年反而大家要去打破這個隔閡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/254.wav",
        "text": "這個過去在殖民時代留下來劃分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/255.wav",
        "text": "的舊方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/256.wav",
        "text": "這個思維應當是現在社會要去打破的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/257.wav",
        "text": "可是怎麼會我們要去處理原住民族委員會的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/258.wav",
        "text": "我認為那非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/259.wav",
        "text": "主委的任命是不是彰顯了時代的新的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/260.wav",
        "text": "我們不再分你是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/261.wav",
        "text": "都是疼惜原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/262.wav",
        "text": "都是捍衛原住民族權益的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/263.wav",
        "text": "專業人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/264.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這才是現在要做的我甚至認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/265.wav",
        "text": "朝野應當更有共識的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/266.wav",
        "text": "如果我們真的有能力應當努力去修憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/267.wav",
        "text": "把增修條文裡頭對於原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/268.wav",
        "text": "硬分為山原平原這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/269.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是要去打破的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/270.wav",
        "text": "它確實會造成行政權用人的限縮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/271.wav",
        "text": "它一定會造成我選才時一個條件的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/272.wav",
        "text": "你也不會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/273.wav",
        "text": "我覺得臺灣都在打破這樣子的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/274.wav",
        "text": "\n講到族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/275.wav",
        "text": "譬如說回到我在內政委員會質詢這個題目的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/276.wav",
        "text": "我也有想到那客委會呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/277.wav",
        "text": "就說那我們是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/278.wav",
        "text": "四海大平安也要分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/279.wav",
        "text": "──四縣的當第一任再來海陸的當第二任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/280.wav",
        "text": "大埔的是第三任饒平的是第四任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/281.wav",
        "text": "然後韶安的是第五任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/282.wav",
        "text": "這個就是我們要去打破的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/283.wav",
        "text": "\n然後就法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/284.wav",
        "text": "就條文論條文輪流兩個字的法律定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/285.wav",
        "text": "也非常的不明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/286.wav",
        "text": "我今天可能因為某個事情我也許很短命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/287.wav",
        "text": "我才上任幾個月就卸任了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/288.wav",
        "text": "那下一個就被強迫要去找到另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/289.wav",
        "text": "又或者是這個主委非常的優秀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/290.wav",
        "text": "他是山地的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/291.wav",
        "text": "可是我就被迫要去取捨這個大家都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/292.wav",
        "text": "很稱讚的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/293.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不要再走回頭路去區分這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/294.wav",
        "text": "所以真的覺得大家都在看我們立法院的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/295.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠越來越彰顯時代的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/296.wav",
        "text": "所以真的還是希望能夠商酌條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/297.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文是比較好的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/298.wav",
        "text": "那這樣照理來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/299.wav",
        "text": "我們的修法方向應該是每一族來輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/300.wav",
        "text": "每一族都應該來擔任主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/301.wav",
        "text": "啊這樣不是比較公平嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/302.wav",
        "text": "我只是舉一個反向的例子讓大家思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/303.wav",
        "text": "各位委員的踴躍發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/304.wav",
        "text": "我想我們沒有辦法達到共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/305.wav",
        "text": "第3條我們就保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/306.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在進入第思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/307.wav",
        "text": "思銘委員你的表情有感動嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/308.wav",
        "text": "你內心有感動嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/309.wav",
        "text": "好思瑤委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/310.wav",
        "text": "我們不要再重蹈覆轍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/311.wav",
        "text": "用立法的方式去僭越了其他憲法機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/312.wav",
        "text": "的核心領域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/313.wav",
        "text": "人事權的任命真的是行政權核心領域的範疇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/314.wav",
        "text": "我們要再一次用修法立法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/315.wav",
        "text": "去剝奪行政權的人事任命權嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/316.wav",
        "text": "我們真的是要深思這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/317.wav",
        "text": "我並不想所以我把它放到最後再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/318.wav",
        "text": "因為我以為大家可以有一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/319.wav",
        "text": "切莫不可啦我們不要再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/320.wav",
        "text": "去僭越了憲法權力分立的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/321.wav",
        "text": "真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/322.wav",
        "text": "現在有兩位黨團幹部要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/323.wav",
        "text": "其實我們要特別提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/324.wav",
        "text": "行政院長如果換人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/325.wav",
        "text": "你現在新的行政院長上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/326.wav",
        "text": "我們就希望他依照這個修法條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/327.wav",
        "text": "來任命山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/328.wav",
        "text": "新的行政院長當然就依照這個規則去走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/329.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以沒有所謂限制他的任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/330.wav",
        "text": "不是啦這樣我們要不要來修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/331.wav",
        "text": "所以我說大家意見不一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/332.wav",
        "text": "我們就保留送院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/333.wav",
        "text": "那這樣我們要規定任命時要女生做完男生做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/334.wav",
        "text": "男生做完女生做嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/335.wav",
        "text": "不要嘛同樣的意思都是好的人才就可以被拔謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/336.wav",
        "text": "顯然大家的意見分歧的非常厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/337.wav",
        "text": "\n蔡易餘幹事長我想我們就不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/338.wav",
        "text": "不是因為輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/339.wav",
        "text": "沒有這樣的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/340.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛舉了幾個例子比方說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/341.wav",
        "text": "原民會的主委延任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/342.wav",
        "text": "這樣會不會被輪流這兩個字綁住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/343.wav",
        "text": "因為他延任嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/344.wav",
        "text": "然後下一個就一定要換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/345.wav",
        "text": "這樣是輪流這個定義很不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/346.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/347.wav",
        "text": "\n現在進入第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/348.wav",
        "text": "第4條是原民會委員改無給職請提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/349.wav",
        "text": "跟大家說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/350.wav",
        "text": "我認為原民會作為原住民中央行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/351.wav",
        "text": "它的組織制度應該要更為嚴謹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/352.wav",
        "text": "要注重專業性及文化敏感度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/353.wav",
        "text": "尤其是要反映各族心聲的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/354.wav",
        "text": "可是我們看到現行的族群委員制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/355.wav",
        "text": "施行了很多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/356.wav",
        "text": "仍然存在著非常多的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/357.wav",
        "text": "而原民會一直沒有去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/358.wav",
        "text": "根本就不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/359.wav",
        "text": "這導致我們有非常多基層的族人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/360.wav",
        "text": "根本不知道我這個族推薦的是哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/361.wav",
        "text": "因此有非常多成為少數人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/362.wav",
        "text": "進行酬庸的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/363.wav",
        "text": "也因為徵詢各族意見的方式欠缺明確的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/364.wav",
        "text": "所以導致了這兩屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/365.wav",
        "text": "有非常多的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/366.wav",
        "text": "讓我們部落的族人產生抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/367.wav",
        "text": "\n第二件事情就是我們認為族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/368.wav",
        "text": "是非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/369.wav",
        "text": "的根據我們看到的預算114年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/370.wav",
        "text": "族群委員的人事費高達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/371.wav",
        "text": "2,247.6萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/372.wav",
        "text": "也就是說一個族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/373.wav",
        "text": "喔我們有16個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/374.wav",
        "text": "他的任用資格是什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/375.wav",
        "text": "只有具備原住民身分就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/376.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會看到現在族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/377.wav",
        "text": "的專業度按照原民會的處務規程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/378.wav",
        "text": "他們要處理很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/379.wav",
        "text": "第一個是對重要議案要先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/380.wav",
        "text": "第二個是對原民會的法規要先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/381.wav",
        "text": "等等10項包括對於原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/382.wav",
        "text": "非常重要的法案事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/383.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為族群委員的專業度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/384.wav",
        "text": "是非常非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/385.wav",
        "text": "也因為長年沒有按照他的專業度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/386.wav",
        "text": "來規定他的職權作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/387.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下相對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/388.wav",
        "text": "他們必須經過考試及格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/389.wav",
        "text": "而且還要有10年以上的資歷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/390.wav",
        "text": "他才可以被拔擢為所謂原民會裡面的專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/391.wav",
        "text": "他的薪資才將近8萬塊而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/392.wav",
        "text": "剛剛的族群委員他只要具原住民身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/393.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何的專業度他的薪資酬勞是11.7萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/394.wav",
        "text": "相較之下對於公務人員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/395.wav",
        "text": "原民會的公務人員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/396.wav",
        "text": "努力的年輕人也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/397.wav",
        "text": "他會有相對的剝奪感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/398.wav",
        "text": "\n然後我們再來看一下原民會我舉兩個處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/399.wav",
        "text": "一個叫做社福處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/400.wav",
        "text": "它要處理什麼它要處理原住民的就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/401.wav",
        "text": "法扶文健站等等社會福利的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/402.wav",
        "text": "它只有16個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/403.wav",
        "text": "只有16個人在處理這麼多的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/404.wav",
        "text": "還有住宅輔導宜居部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/405.wav",
        "text": "原鄉道路養護等等的部落基礎建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/406.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道原住民的部落有七百零多個它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/407.wav",
        "text": "它的人力只有多少16個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/408.wav",
        "text": "所以相對地我就拿這兩個處室的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/409.wav",
        "text": "跟族群委員對比他們人數是一樣多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/410.wav",
        "text": "16個人啦\n然後我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/411.wav",
        "text": "幾乎不堪負荷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/412.wav",
        "text": "族群委員做什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/413.wav",
        "text": "部落裡面的人都知道根本不是原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/414.wav",
        "text": "說的這些重要的10項處務規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/415.wav",
        "text": "現在在做的事情都是跑婚喪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/416.wav",
        "text": "喜慶宴會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/417.wav",
        "text": "就是代表我們的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/418.wav",
        "text": "他如果跑不了婚喪喜慶族群委員就幫忙去跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/419.wav",
        "text": "\n我們覺得這樣子實在是身為一個原住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/420.wav",
        "text": "立法委員要把族群委員列為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/421.wav",
        "text": "其實我們壓力很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/422.wav",
        "text": "但是相對的我們也不能夠讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/423.wav",
        "text": "這麼努力的公務人員充滿了被剝奪感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/424.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我有兩個具體的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/425.wav",
        "text": "第一個族群委員改為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/426.wav",
        "text": "按照總統府原住民族歷史正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/427.wav",
        "text": "跟轉型正義委員會還有客家委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/428.wav",
        "text": "組織法委員制度採無給職聘任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/429.wav",
        "text": "我們從上而下推舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/430.wav",
        "text": "具有民族代表性的專業性的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/431.wav",
        "text": "讓他可以非常有熱忱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/432.wav",
        "text": "地凝聚族群的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/433.wav",
        "text": "第二個我們將族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/434.wav",
        "text": "的這兩千多萬的人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/435.wav",
        "text": "回歸到專業的公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/436.wav",
        "text": "將現行族群委員高額的人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/437.wav",
        "text": "用來補足正式的公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/438.wav",
        "text": "聘任具有原住民身分和專業素養的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/439.wav",
        "text": "解決多年來人力不足的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/440.wav",
        "text": "來提升原住民族專門事務的效能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/441.wav",
        "text": "所以待會我跟鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/442.wav",
        "text": "也有提出一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/443.wav",
        "text": "如果大家對第4條沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/444.wav",
        "text": "給族群委員的這些經費轉給原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/445.wav",
        "text": "增加他們真正的專業人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/446.wav",
        "text": "因為現在原民會的人力實在不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/447.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/448.wav",
        "text": "謝謝提案委員高金委員的說明\n陳瑩委員您要發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/449.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/450.wav",
        "text": "我本來想說先讓三位原住民委員講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/451.wav",
        "text": "我再請曾主委你要調整次序沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/452.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員您要發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/453.wav",
        "text": "陳瑩委員要等曾主委之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/454.wav",
        "text": "您可以先發言也可以等曾主委之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/455.wav",
        "text": "好請曾主委表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/456.wav",
        "text": "跟主席各位委員報告第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/457.wav",
        "text": "這個族群委員從有原民會以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/458.wav",
        "text": "就不是無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/459.wav",
        "text": "第二個這28年來的推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/460.wav",
        "text": "樣可以自薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/461.wav",
        "text": "也可以民族議會來推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/462.wav",
        "text": "最後整理起來就是擔任族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/463.wav",
        "text": "跟公務員的工作不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/464.wav",
        "text": "一定是熟悉他自己族群的一些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/465.wav",
        "text": "他就比較熟悉他們自己族群的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/466.wav",
        "text": "那麼他這個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/467.wav",
        "text": "可以作為我們中央政府地方政府的橋梁這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/468.wav",
        "text": "是很重要的這跟公務員不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/469.wav",
        "text": "他願意來原民會不會搞不好你還找不到公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/470.wav",
        "text": "譬如更小的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/471.wav",
        "text": "一路到牡丹鄉到臺東的達仁金鋒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/472.wav",
        "text": "是這麼樣地遼闊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/473.wav",
        "text": "所以當然要有薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/474.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民的服務不能免費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/475.wav",
        "text": "因為他光是這樣往返"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/476.wav",
        "text": "返對他個人來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/477.wav",
        "text": "啊因為他服務的地方非常地遼闊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/478.wav",
        "text": "當然我們可以檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/479.wav",
        "text": "我們來做檢討來做修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/480.wav",
        "text": "但是我認為要給原住民當族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/481.wav",
        "text": "又要讓他沒有領薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/482.wav",
        "text": "再把這個錢用來去聘公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/483.wav",
        "text": "這個非常難啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/484.wav",
        "text": "而且你不一定找得到適合做部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/485.wav",
        "text": "因為公務員跟族群委員不一樣關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/486.wav",
        "text": "公務員的作法我相信主席也很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/487.wav",
        "text": "還有我們選的這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/488.wav",
        "text": "要嘛他就是當過鄉民代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/489.wav",
        "text": "要嘛他就是當過議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/490.wav",
        "text": "要嘛他就是當過區長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/491.wav",
        "text": "至少他熟悉他自己部落的一些業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/492.wav",
        "text": "我們才把他遴選上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/493.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我想還是要跟各位委員拜託一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/494.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/495.wav",
        "text": "謝謝曾主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/496.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來陳瑩委員跟鄭天財委員哪位先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/497.wav",
        "text": "請陳瑩委員鄭天財委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/498.wav",
        "text": "我想先請教韓院長一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/499.wav",
        "text": "您有兩位有給職的顧問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/500.wav",
        "text": "對不對是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/501.wav",
        "text": "照立法院編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/502.wav",
        "text": "對這是按照立法院組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/503.wav",
        "text": "有兩位有給職的顧問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/504.wav",
        "text": "我想這兩位有給職的顧問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/505.wav",
        "text": "因為要協助韓院長做立院相關的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/506.wav",
        "text": "所以不管他是什麼政黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/507.wav",
        "text": "或者他是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/508.wav",
        "text": "其實我不知道他們是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/509.wav",
        "text": "不管我喜不喜歡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/510.wav",
        "text": "即便我再怎麼不喜歡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/511.wav",
        "text": "我想我們也不會去提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/512.wav",
        "text": "說要把他們的薪水給刪了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/513.wav",
        "text": "或者這兩位偶爾幫院長跑行程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/514.wav",
        "text": "立委覺得不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/515.wav",
        "text": "我們也不會就提案把他給刪了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/516.wav",
        "text": "至少我沒有幹過這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/517.wav",
        "text": "所以我就是比較一下提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/518.wav",
        "text": "因為韓院長用人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/519.wav",
        "text": "你要用的顧問您去挑您去指定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/520.wav",
        "text": "或許您會接受很多人各界的推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/521.wav",
        "text": "但是那個就是韓院長的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/522.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/523.wav",
        "text": "另外我要提的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/524.wav",
        "text": "其他像客委會的這些委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/525.wav",
        "text": "他們其實性質不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/526.wav",
        "text": "這是一個諮詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/527.wav",
        "text": "他們是諮詢的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/528.wav",
        "text": "那工作分量也沒有像原住民的委員這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/529.wav",
        "text": "是沒有像原住民的聘用委員一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/530.wav",
        "text": "因為我不知道高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/531.wav",
        "text": "是說誰跑了婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/532.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得以這一屆來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/533.wav",
        "text": "待會主委應該要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/534.wav",
        "text": "這一屆的聘用委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/535.wav",
        "text": "他們到底做了什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/536.wav",
        "text": "被賦予了什麼任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/537.wav",
        "text": "他們在上任之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/538.wav",
        "text": "的這段時間到底做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/539.wav",
        "text": "是不是每天都在跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/540.wav",
        "text": "不然這個對現在的這些委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/541.wav",
        "text": "都是一個很大的侮辱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/542.wav",
        "text": "的人他們確實就是真的很優秀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/543.wav",
        "text": "而且很專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/544.wav",
        "text": "這到底是不是酬庸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/545.wav",
        "text": "關於推薦人的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/546.wav",
        "text": "其實推薦一樣嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/547.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員你也有推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/548.wav",
        "text": "啊只是主委要用誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/549.wav",
        "text": "這是主委自己要去決定的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/550.wav",
        "text": "上次唸了一堆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/551.wav",
        "text": "真的啦你不要搖頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/552.wav",
        "text": "真的有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/553.wav",
        "text": "等一下拿到你前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/554.wav",
        "text": "我你不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/555.wav",
        "text": "我可以談一下沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/556.wav",
        "text": "啊好這到底是不是酬庸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/557.wav",
        "text": "在過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/558.wav",
        "text": "是主任的老婆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/559.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也不會特別去講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/560.wav",
        "text": "它是酬庸還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/561.wav",
        "text": "嘛我覺得這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/562.wav",
        "text": "這一屆的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/563.wav",
        "text": "但是真的做了很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/564.wav",
        "text": "這個你要替他們講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/565.wav",
        "text": "還有他們薪資的部分到底是怎麼領的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/566.wav",
        "text": "你也要說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/567.wav",
        "text": "也沒有像立委講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/568.wav",
        "text": "這個要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/569.wav",
        "text": "陳委員謝謝你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/570.wav",
        "text": "依我們立法院組織法第23條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/571.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院設兩個顧問是完全正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/572.wav",
        "text": "的兩位都是公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/573.wav",
        "text": "特別跟您報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/574.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請鄭天財委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/575.wav",
        "text": "本席提這個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/576.wav",
        "text": "是在今年4月就提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/577.wav",
        "text": "所以跟現在的族群委員沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/578.wav",
        "text": "關於這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/579.wav",
        "text": "跟各黨團來做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/580.wav",
        "text": "會有專任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/581.wav",
        "text": "也就是聘用的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/582.wav",
        "text": "不是行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/583.wav",
        "text": "成立之前的這個組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/584.wav",
        "text": "行政院版並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/585.wav",
        "text": "而是原住民立法委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/586.wav",
        "text": "在之前的主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/587.wav",
        "text": "我們就以陳建年主任委員的時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/588.wav",
        "text": "來看最起碼都是議員代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/589.wav",
        "text": "甚至立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/590.wav",
        "text": "都具有各族群的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/591.wav",
        "text": "當初陳瑩委員的父親"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/592.wav",
        "text": "在擔任原民會主任委員的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/593.wav",
        "text": "都具有各族群的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/594.wav",
        "text": "都具有專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/595.wav",
        "text": "最主要是在這方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/596.wav",
        "text": "可以代表這個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/597.wav",
        "text": "那我們族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/598.wav",
        "text": "如果改為無給職的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/599.wav",
        "text": "就是跟客家委員會一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/600.wav",
        "text": "我們就是說它一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/601.wav",
        "text": "你說我們到底是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/602.wav",
        "text": "諮詢政策各方面就不足了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/603.wav",
        "text": "不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/604.wav",
        "text": "原民會一樣可以有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/605.wav",
        "text": "無給職的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/606.wav",
        "text": "可以徵詢他們的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/607.wav",
        "text": "何況我們也有很多的縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/608.wav",
        "text": "鄉鎮市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/609.wav",
        "text": "原住民的鄉長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/610.wav",
        "text": "原住民的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/611.wav",
        "text": "都可以提供意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/612.wav",
        "text": "所以不會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/613.wav",
        "text": "政策方向的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/614.wav",
        "text": "要專職聘用委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/615.wav",
        "text": "人看到目前這幾年的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/616.wav",
        "text": "真的是會搖頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/617.wav",
        "text": "所以我這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/618.wav",
        "text": "是今年4月就提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/619.wav",
        "text": "了我從來不提個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/620.wav",
        "text": "之前林江義主委時代的那一位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/621.wav",
        "text": "他不是國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/622.wav",
        "text": "你講那個洪金福是親民黨那是你的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/623.wav",
        "text": "不是我推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/624.wav",
        "text": "是親民黨推薦了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/625.wav",
        "text": "親民黨推薦了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/626.wav",
        "text": "當時的主任委員問我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/627.wav",
        "text": "這個適不適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/628.wav",
        "text": "我說他可以代表都會區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/629.wav",
        "text": "因為從來沒有都會區的當職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/630.wav",
        "text": "所以我說他可以代表都會區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/631.wav",
        "text": "是林江義主委問我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/632.wav",
        "text": "當初是親民黨推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/633.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/634.wav",
        "text": "我現在想聽一下黨團幹部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/635.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/636.wav",
        "text": "然後請國民黨團準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/637.wav",
        "text": "聽了剛剛幾位原民委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/638.wav",
        "text": "都很有收穫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/639.wav",
        "text": "我想我們要討論的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/640.wav",
        "text": "如果委員認為對於現任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/641.wav",
        "text": "這些族群委員的工作狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/642.wav",
        "text": "或是專業的適任與否有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/643.wav",
        "text": "有認為可以精進的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/644.wav",
        "text": "那麼要去強化的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/645.wav",
        "text": "應當是制度面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/646.wav",
        "text": "在遴聘的制度讓它更健全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/647.wav",
        "text": "或是舉薦的管道更多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/648.wav",
        "text": "或者是整個遴聘的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/649.wav",
        "text": "更透明公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/650.wav",
        "text": "我想該做的是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/651.wav",
        "text": "而不是現在一竿子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/652.wav",
        "text": "似乎幾位委員對於現在的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/653.wav",
        "text": "感覺不太滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/654.wav",
        "text": "就要大刀一揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/655.wav",
        "text": "砍掉人家應當有的payment"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/656.wav",
        "text": "而且真的不要再舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/657.wav",
        "text": "客委會的諮詢委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/658.wav",
        "text": "原住民轉型正義委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/659.wav",
        "text": "因為他們是諮詢的性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/660.wav",
        "text": "是久久來開一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/661.wav",
        "text": "他是fulldayfulltime"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/662.wav",
        "text": "他是每天要上班的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/663.wav",
        "text": "完全性質是大不相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/664.wav",
        "text": "所以不可同日而語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/665.wav",
        "text": "公務體系裡面的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/666.wav",
        "text": "他都有他的任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/667.wav",
        "text": "跟他的待遇所有的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/668.wav",
        "text": "我們不能夠現在修了法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/669.wav",
        "text": "我也不曉得稍後這個施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/670.wav",
        "text": "要定在什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/671.wav",
        "text": "請問現在已經遴聘的這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/672.wav",
        "text": "照理講他的任期應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/673.wav",
        "text": "跟著主委吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/674.wav",
        "text": "那怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/675.wav",
        "text": "主委還在任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/676.wav",
        "text": "昨天他還有薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/677.wav",
        "text": "明天施行之日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/678.wav",
        "text": "由立法院定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/679.wav",
        "text": "是法律的基本原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/680.wav",
        "text": "所以立法委員沒有這麼大的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/681.wav",
        "text": "我認為誰好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/682.wav",
        "text": "我就給他高一點的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/683.wav",
        "text": "我認為誰不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/684.wav",
        "text": "我今天就砍光他的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/685.wav",
        "text": "這個任期的信賴保障原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/686.wav",
        "text": "而且打開天窗說亮話啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/687.wav",
        "text": "大家都是在政治圈工作這麼久的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/688.wav",
        "text": "今天不管誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/689.wav",
        "text": "國民黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/690.wav",
        "text": "國民黨任命的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/691.wav",
        "text": "就可以去遴聘他要的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/692.wav",
        "text": "今天民進黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/693.wav",
        "text": "民進黨所邀請入閣的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/694.wav",
        "text": "他就有他的人事任命權去邀請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/695.wav",
        "text": "當然還有一定的舉薦跟遴聘的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/696.wav",
        "text": "可是我們也不會在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/697.wav",
        "text": "民進黨在野的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/698.wav",
        "text": "來質疑國民黨的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/699.wav",
        "text": "的族群委員就一定不適任有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/700.wav",
        "text": "然後要砍光他的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/701.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不可以這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/702.wav",
        "text": "\n回到剛剛我們在講的第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/703.wav",
        "text": "我們都還在爭論說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/704.wav",
        "text": "對於原民會主委的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/705.wav",
        "text": "要不要去區分山原跟平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/706.wav",
        "text": "我們要的是認為不要區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/707.wav",
        "text": "而且要增進16個族之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/708.wav",
        "text": "彼此的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/709.wav",
        "text": "誰能夠為這個族群做最大的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/710.wav",
        "text": "他的專業性最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/711.wav",
        "text": "我們就認為他是一個好的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/712.wav",
        "text": "16個族也許16個族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/713.wav",
        "text": "就是要幫助原民會去落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/714.wav",
        "text": "跟每一個族的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/715.wav",
        "text": "他需要的工作政策的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/716.wav",
        "text": "就是要去增進這些融合的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/717.wav",
        "text": "所以怎麼會大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/718.wav",
        "text": "家不覺得第3條跟第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/719.wav",
        "text": "有一點邏輯錯置嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/720.wav",
        "text": "所以講回法律的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/721.wav",
        "text": "對於公務同仁體系的信賴保護原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/722.wav",
        "text": "立法委員是不應當用修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/723.wav",
        "text": "的方式讓今天有給職明天變無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/724.wav",
        "text": "會吃不完兜著走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/725.wav",
        "text": "保障公務同仁的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/726.wav",
        "text": "退萬步言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/727.wav",
        "text": "很多人民也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/728.wav",
        "text": "很多立委不適任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/729.wav",
        "text": "啊那我們是不是提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/730.wav",
        "text": "立委就一樣無給職好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/731.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/732.wav",
        "text": "這些族群委員也有一定的遴聘制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/733.wav",
        "text": "有不夠適任的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/734.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/735.wav",
        "text": "要做的是去精進遴聘的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/736.wav",
        "text": "或是讓它更透明公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/737.wav",
        "text": "或是強化他的資格任用背景條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/738.wav",
        "text": "應當是這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/739.wav",
        "text": "而不是現在去把別人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/740.wav",
        "text": "從有給職變無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/741.wav",
        "text": "信賴保障原則在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/742.wav",
        "text": "主委你回答一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/743.wav",
        "text": "今天修了這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/744.wav",
        "text": "這些人突然沒了薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/745.wav",
        "text": "他可以提告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/746.wav",
        "text": "欸這要誰來負這個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/747.wav",
        "text": "他可以提告提案的委員嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/748.wav",
        "text": "這個聘任聘期有保障嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/749.wav",
        "text": "請問聘期是一年一聘還是任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/750.wav",
        "text": "跟你一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/751.wav",
        "text": "回答一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/752.wav",
        "text": "這真的是有信賴保護的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/753.wav",
        "text": "他的任期是跟我的一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/754.wav",
        "text": "接下來請曾主委補充發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/755.wav",
        "text": "請林思銘書記長準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/756.wav",
        "text": "的一個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/757.wav",
        "text": "也才兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/758.wav",
        "text": "簽約的時候他的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/759.wav",
        "text": "他就做8個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/760.wav",
        "text": "我做1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/761.wav",
        "text": "他就跟著我做1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/762.wav",
        "text": "這是政治任命的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/763.wav",
        "text": "那麼我再一次重複講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/764.wav",
        "text": "他們很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/765.wav",
        "text": "他們還要做工程的會勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/766.wav",
        "text": "一些活動甚至很多會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/767.wav",
        "text": "也要去協助主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/768.wav",
        "text": "還有處理一些人民的陳情案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/769.wav",
        "text": "那個範圍是那麼樣的遼闊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/770.wav",
        "text": "這個真的需要這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/771.wav",
        "text": "這不是公務人員能做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/772.wav",
        "text": "啊因為他們平常跟教會也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/773.wav",
        "text": "跟部落也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/774.wav",
        "text": "我們要借助他們在地方上的實力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/775.wav",
        "text": "為民服務的量能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/776.wav",
        "text": "是28年來一直這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/777.wav",
        "text": "為什麼獨獨到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/778.wav",
        "text": "一下子就把人家變成無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/779.wav",
        "text": "這個也沒有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/780.wav",
        "text": "他們的表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/781.wav",
        "text": "到底遴選出來的他們表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/782.wav",
        "text": "好或不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/783.wav",
        "text": "表現得都不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/784.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我在這裡還是拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/785.wav",
        "text": "一下子變為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/786.wav",
        "text": "實在是要拜託各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/787.wav",
        "text": "謝謝曾主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/788.wav",
        "text": "謝謝您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/789.wav",
        "text": "接下來請國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/790.wav",
        "text": "書記長林思銘委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/791.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/792.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/793.wav",
        "text": "我們看到就是產生了弊端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/794.wav",
        "text": "就是淪為政黨酬庸的一個工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/795.wav",
        "text": "聘任的人是不是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/796.wav",
        "text": "有他的專業度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/797.wav",
        "text": "我想高金委員在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/798.wav",
        "text": "也做出很多質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/799.wav",
        "text": "也說明得非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/800.wav",
        "text": "我就不再贅述了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/801.wav",
        "text": "其實我想講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/802.wav",
        "text": "呼應剛才高金委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/803.wav",
        "text": "不如去增加更多的公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/804.wav",
        "text": "更多的員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/805.wav",
        "text": "更專業的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/806.wav",
        "text": "族群委員更有效益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/807.wav",
        "text": "更能保障原民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/808.wav",
        "text": "我再講一下客家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/809.wav",
        "text": "客家的委員我也遇到非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/810.wav",
        "text": "他們沒有領錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/811.wav",
        "text": "但是他很有榮譽感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/812.wav",
        "text": "他到地方上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/813.wav",
        "text": "他是客家委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/814.wav",
        "text": "會主動跟大家來了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/815.wav",
        "text": "很有熱誠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/816.wav",
        "text": "啊他不在乎薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/817.wav",
        "text": "他在乎的是這個榮譽感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/818.wav",
        "text": "所以當初這個設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/819.wav",
        "text": "真的是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/820.wav",
        "text": "實行到現在既然有弊端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/821.wav",
        "text": "那我們就要改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/822.wav",
        "text": "啊改成跟其他族群委員會一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/823.wav",
        "text": "啊改成無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/824.wav",
        "text": "啊然後把這些錢用到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/825.wav",
        "text": "能夠為原民服務的人身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/826.wav",
        "text": "我也想提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/827.wav",
        "text": "如果說法修過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/828.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照相關的規定去走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/829.wav",
        "text": "嘛你不用擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/830.wav",
        "text": "啊本來聘任就是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/831.wav",
        "text": "你還溯及既往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/832.wav",
        "text": "啊這個就已經完全違反信賴保護原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/833.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重發言委員好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/834.wav",
        "text": "所以我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/835.wav",
        "text": "不要去講這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/836.wav",
        "text": "制度既然有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/837.wav",
        "text": "我們就應該予以修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/838.wav",
        "text": "接下來蔡易餘書記長發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/839.wav",
        "text": "我要進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/840.wav",
        "text": "請蔡書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/841.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛這樣聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/842.wav",
        "text": "為什麼把跑婚喪喜慶講得這麼不堪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/843.wav",
        "text": "\n我們每一個立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/844.wav",
        "text": "啊但是跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/845.wav",
        "text": "我們才能接觸到更多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/846.wav",
        "text": "聽到更多不同的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/847.wav",
        "text": "為什麼跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/848.wav",
        "text": "就等於是不好的把它醜化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/849.wav",
        "text": "原民會它不是獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/850.wav",
        "text": "是行政院長任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/851.wav",
        "text": "對於在實施政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/852.wav",
        "text": "上他覺得對他有幫助的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/853.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/854.wav",
        "text": "原民會的這些委員讓他是有給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/855.wav",
        "text": "第一個是原住民的轄區很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/856.wav",
        "text": "第二個是原住民不同族群之間的語言不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/857.wav",
        "text": "包括主委也有自己的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/858.wav",
        "text": "他是排灣族跟其他語言不一致的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/859.wav",
        "text": "給他一些地方上聽到的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/860.wav",
        "text": "所以這些委員很認真去跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/861.wav",
        "text": "我們要鼓勵他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/862.wav",
        "text": "因為基於聘用條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/863.wav",
        "text": "他領了這個錢他很認真去跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/864.wav",
        "text": "你以為身為原民會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/865.wav",
        "text": "去跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/866.wav",
        "text": "不會有人跟他陳情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/867.wav",
        "text": "一定會有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/868.wav",
        "text": "一定會聽到很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/869.wav",
        "text": "像是我希望主委在哪一些政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/870.wav",
        "text": "要再精進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/871.wav",
        "text": "要替原住民的福利再大力爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/872.wav",
        "text": "那些就都是在地方跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/873.wav",
        "text": "才會聽到這些基層的聲音\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/874.wav",
        "text": "我們每一個委員都是自基層出身我們都是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/875.wav",
        "text": "然後聽到這些聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/876.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼現在要把跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/877.wav",
        "text": "在地方廣聽原住民心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/878.wav",
        "text": "的這件事情講得這麼不堪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/879.wav",
        "text": "在地方跑的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/880.wav",
        "text": "讓他沒辦法跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/881.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣的一個修法不好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/882.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛主委說這個已經二十幾年了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/883.wav",
        "text": "我也敢預判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/884.wav",
        "text": "國民黨回到執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/885.wav",
        "text": "了他會把它修回來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/886.wav",
        "text": "他一定把它修回來的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/887.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/888.wav",
        "text": "是政黨輪替就去修這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/889.wav",
        "text": "這個都帶有羞辱人的一個意味"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/890.wav",
        "text": "要求再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/891.wav",
        "text": "再發言一下以後我們做處理好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/892.wav",
        "text": "請陳瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/893.wav",
        "text": "你先舉手的不用客氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/894.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/895.wav",
        "text": "氣勢比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/896.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這件事是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/897.wav",
        "text": "我們努力在這邊協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/898.wav",
        "text": "如果大家沒有結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/899.wav",
        "text": "最後還是表決處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/900.wav",
        "text": "可能我們表決也還是會輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/901.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要把它講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/902.wav",
        "text": "我覺得今天從一開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/903.wav",
        "text": "提案到整個協商的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/904.wav",
        "text": "我不管過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/905.wav",
        "text": "發生什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/906.wav",
        "text": "或者各位委員對他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/907.wav",
        "text": "有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/908.wav",
        "text": "我覺得都不應該認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/909.wav",
        "text": "現在這一屆的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/910.wav",
        "text": "就一定是什麼樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/911.wav",
        "text": "我真的覺得要給他們時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/912.wav",
        "text": "讓大家去檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/913.wav",
        "text": "而且確實在這段很短的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/914.wav",
        "text": "內他們真的很努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/915.wav",
        "text": "做了很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/916.wav",
        "text": "也不是都一直在跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/917.wav",
        "text": "\n再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/918.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我講了那兩個顧問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/919.wav",
        "text": "沒關係沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/920.wav",
        "text": "沒關係就是那兩個顧問其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/921.wav",
        "text": "剛好遇到這兩位是公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/922.wav",
        "text": "以前都不是公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/923.wav",
        "text": "不是啦他們剛好就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/924.wav",
        "text": "公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/925.wav",
        "text": "就沒有位置放所以就放進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/926.wav",
        "text": "反正OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/927.wav",
        "text": "現在就是公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/928.wav",
        "text": "反正重點就是那是要幫韓院長的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/929.wav",
        "text": "韓院長自己決定要用誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/930.wav",
        "text": "嘛我即便再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/931.wav",
        "text": "怎麼看不順眼我也是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/932.wav",
        "text": "修法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/933.wav",
        "text": "因為我們理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/934.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n最後我要把握發言機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/935.wav",
        "text": "我提醒一下因為鄭委員不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/936.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你可能誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/937.wav",
        "text": "我不是講那個特定什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/938.wav",
        "text": "人我上次講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/939.wav",
        "text": "那是因為他穿著您團隊的背心是您的助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/940.wav",
        "text": "所以我就特別講了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/941.wav",
        "text": "因為你們提了我就提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/942.wav",
        "text": "再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/943.wav",
        "text": "因為這一屆您確實也有推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/944.wav",
        "text": "雖然是山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/945.wav",
        "text": "我跟您講我手上這個是原民會的紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/946.wav",
        "text": "上次高金委員那一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/947.wav",
        "text": "我借來參考了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/948.wav",
        "text": "我看到以鄭天財"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/949.wav",
        "text": "委員為推薦人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/950.wav",
        "text": "那一份可能不精確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/951.wav",
        "text": "啊因為我們那麼多都被點名了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/952.wav",
        "text": "我也講那個有錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/953.wav",
        "text": "如果有錯誤你自己去跟原民會講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/954.wav",
        "text": "這個是原民會的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/955.wav",
        "text": "推薦人是您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/956.wav",
        "text": "然後要講酬庸的話不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/957.wav",
        "text": "大家要這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/958.wav",
        "text": "我也是把握最後機會講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/959.wav",
        "text": "我不是很清楚但是高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/960.wav",
        "text": "他是您以前主任的老婆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/961.wav",
        "text": "嘛那這樣是不是酬庸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/962.wav",
        "text": "啊這個我們也可以質疑但是他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/963.wav",
        "text": "當了3任我們大家也都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/964.wav",
        "text": "講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/965.wav",
        "text": "啊我們也是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/966.wav",
        "text": "嘛這一屆大家簽約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/967.wav",
        "text": "要跟主委同進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/968.wav",
        "text": "如果開了這樣子的先例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/969.wav",
        "text": "在這一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/970.wav",
        "text": "大家因為前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/971.wav",
        "text": "有什麼不滿意就這樣把他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/972.wav",
        "text": "薪水給付cut掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/973.wav",
        "text": "我覺得第一個是侮辱人第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/974.wav",
        "text": "是政府沒有誠信原則啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/975.wav",
        "text": "那當然就是訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/976.wav",
        "text": "就會一直不斷訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/977.wav",
        "text": "這樣到底要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/978.wav",
        "text": "提出這樣子的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/979.wav",
        "text": "問題大家好好考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/980.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/981.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請高金委員發言你要不要站起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/982.wav",
        "text": "有理坐著就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/983.wav",
        "text": "\n我先跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/984.wav",
        "text": "對於第4條的修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/985.wav",
        "text": "我們在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/986.wav",
        "text": "已經討論了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/987.wav",
        "text": "韓院長主持的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/988.wav",
        "text": "之下我覺得應該講更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/989.wav",
        "text": "高層次的一些例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/990.wav",
        "text": "所以我就不再回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/991.wav",
        "text": "陳瑩委員對於這一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/992.wav",
        "text": "有什麼樣的所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/993.wav",
        "text": "酬庸那是民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/994.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/995.wav",
        "text": "裡面提供的資訊大家有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/996.wav",
        "text": "空可以去看委員會裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/997.wav",
        "text": "在修正原民會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/998.wav",
        "text": "的時候我就極力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/999.wav",
        "text": "力要求原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1000.wav",
        "text": "族群委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1001.wav",
        "text": "遴聘辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1002.wav",
        "text": "但是一直到現在並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1003.wav",
        "text": "我也非常遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1004.wav",
        "text": "協商的時候我的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1005.wav",
        "text": "沒有被接納因為大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1006.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商很快速嘛當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1007.wav",
        "text": "我們只把屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1008.wav",
        "text": "列為三級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1009.wav",
        "text": "那一塊事實上我也要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1010.wav",
        "text": "執政都必須回歸到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1011.wav",
        "text": "正常的遴聘規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1012.wav",
        "text": "這是我要先講的\n第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1013.wav",
        "text": "我非常遺憾也難過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1014.wav",
        "text": "我們的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1015.wav",
        "text": "居然在這裡會講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1016.wav",
        "text": "我們立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1017.wav",
        "text": "希望把族群委員每個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1018.wav",
        "text": "公務人員的不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1019.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1020.wav",
        "text": "在103年的時候我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1021.wav",
        "text": "時請行政院主計總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1022.wav",
        "text": "等機關配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1023.wav",
        "text": "把原民會的員額從195個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1024.wav",
        "text": "核實增加到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1025.wav",
        "text": "280個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1026.wav",
        "text": "這是因為原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1027.wav",
        "text": "掌管的事務就像一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1028.wav",
        "text": "小內閣一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1029.wav",
        "text": "要跑的是全國的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1030.wav",
        "text": "我現在在幫原民會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1031.wav",
        "text": "公務人員講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1032.wav",
        "text": "\n第三我剛剛提到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1033.wav",
        "text": "不管是社福處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1034.wav",
        "text": "不管是公建處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1035.wav",
        "text": "你知道他們的人事費都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1036.wav",
        "text": "族群委員高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1037.wav",
        "text": "而且他們都是十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1038.wav",
        "text": "十職等以上還領不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1039.wav",
        "text": "8萬塊的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1040.wav",
        "text": "這不會有相對剝奪感嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1041.wav",
        "text": "以他們的專業度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1042.wav",
        "text": "他們是如何在幫原民會做事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1043.wav",
        "text": "大家來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1044.wav",
        "text": "原民會的處務規程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1045.wav",
        "text": "裡面哪裡有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1046.wav",
        "text": "我們族群委員要跑婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1047.wav",
        "text": "哪裡有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1048.wav",
        "text": "哪裡有寫他們要幫工建處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1049.wav",
        "text": "去會勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1050.wav",
        "text": "蔡書記長你說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1051.wav",
        "text": "我們跑婚喪喜慶不要侮辱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1052.wav",
        "text": "是沒錯我沒有要侮辱婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1053.wav",
        "text": "我們都跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1054.wav",
        "text": "但是如果在婚喪喜慶碰到陳情案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1055.wav",
        "text": "沒有鄉長沒有代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1056.wav",
        "text": "沒有議員沒有立委嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1057.wav",
        "text": "他難道不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1058.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有語言的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1059.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1060.wav",
        "text": "語言的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1061.wav",
        "text": "就算是花蓮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1062.wav",
        "text": "阿美族的族群代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1063.wav",
        "text": "臺東跟花蓮都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1064.wav",
        "text": "他不見得彼此認識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1065.wav",
        "text": "就算是我泰雅族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1066.wav",
        "text": "和平區選出來的族群代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1067.wav",
        "text": "宜蘭大同鄉的泰雅族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1068.wav",
        "text": "不見得認識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1069.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1070.wav",
        "text": "如果大家都講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1071.wav",
        "text": "我們的族群委員要幫原民會做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1072.wav",
        "text": "我們倒不如讓他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1073.wav",
        "text": "真的熱情地來做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1074.wav",
        "text": "想要做的事情來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1075.wav",
        "text": "而不是現在規範的處務規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1076.wav",
        "text": "你知道現在的處務規程要做什麼嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1077.wav",
        "text": "很多重要議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1078.wav",
        "text": "要先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1079.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎我們的聘任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1080.wav",
        "text": "還有分一個叫做專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1081.wav",
        "text": "這些是無給職的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1082.wav",
        "text": "他們要給原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1083.wav",
        "text": "多少的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1084.wav",
        "text": "然後他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1085.wav",
        "text": "聘任的條件要什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1086.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎他們的聘任條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1087.wav",
        "text": "要對原住民教育學術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1088.wav",
        "text": "語言文字音樂文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1089.wav",
        "text": "藝術體育技藝等方面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1090.wav",
        "text": "研究有相當造詣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1091.wav",
        "text": "或者是有專門著作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1092.wav",
        "text": "或者是有關創作或在文物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1093.wav",
        "text": "保存上享有相當的評價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1094.wav",
        "text": "這個是無給職的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1095.wav",
        "text": "專家學者原住民在幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1096.wav",
        "text": "原民會做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1097.wav",
        "text": "而現在的族群委員也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1098.wav",
        "text": "同樣要做這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1099.wav",
        "text": "可是我沒有污衊所謂的喜慶婚喪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1100.wav",
        "text": "他也許要幫我們的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1101.wav",
        "text": "跑一些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1102.wav",
        "text": "但是也請他們回歸到他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1103.wav",
        "text": "應該要有的制度上面好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1104.wav",
        "text": "\n我再講我沒有因為民進黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1105.wav",
        "text": "或國民黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1106.wav",
        "text": "我就講這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1107.wav",
        "text": "我一直以來身為無黨籍的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1108.wav",
        "text": "我就希望原民會能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1109.wav",
        "text": "遴聘要點好好的來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1110.wav",
        "text": "現在已經幾年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1111.wav",
        "text": "他們有公開透明嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1112.wav",
        "text": "如果今天有公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1113.wav",
        "text": "就不會有民眾黨在委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1114.wav",
        "text": "提出來16個族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1115.wav",
        "text": "中有14個族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1116.wav",
        "text": "都是民進黨你們的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1117.wav",
        "text": "所以才會引起那麼大的風暴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1118.wav",
        "text": "才會引起那麼多部落族人的抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1119.wav",
        "text": "嘛不是如此嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1120.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1121.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1122.wav",
        "text": "我們已經發言告一段落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1123.wav",
        "text": "原住民的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1124.wav",
        "text": "彼此之間意見不一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1125.wav",
        "text": "各黨團的意見也不一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1126.wav",
        "text": "我現在進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1127.wav",
        "text": "本案已經超過1個月的冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1128.wav",
        "text": "我們今天協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1129.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1130.wav",
        "text": "那麼針對第3條第4條第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1131.wav",
        "text": "都是配套的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1132.wav",
        "text": "我們就送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1133.wav",
        "text": "我們今天協商到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1134.wav",
        "text": "現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1135.wav",
        "text": "請問一下院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1136.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1137.wav",
        "text": "後續什麼發言什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1138.wav",
        "text": "我們照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1139.wav",
        "text": "不是照議事規則什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1140.wav",
        "text": "通常會有推派代表什麼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1141.wav",
        "text": "要不要現在來講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1142.wav",
        "text": "我們全部就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1143.wav",
        "text": "好那就這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1144.wav",
        "text": "今天我們協商到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1145.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝各黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1146.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝原住民曾主委跟各位原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1147.wav",
        "text": "列席的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16323/1148.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家我們散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/0.wav",
        "text": "第一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1.wav",
        "text": "依協商結論113年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/2.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/3.wav",
        "text": "收案截止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/4.wav",
        "text": "11月6號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/5.wav",
        "text": "依據財委會所提供的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/6.wav",
        "text": "提案共有782案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/7.wav",
        "text": "因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/8.wav",
        "text": "不再新增任何提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/9.wav",
        "text": "如果各黨團在協商過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/10.wav",
        "text": "認為有必要再提新案的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/11.wav",
        "text": "我們再來溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/12.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/13.wav",
        "text": "針對各委員會審查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/14.wav",
        "text": "基於尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/15.wav",
        "text": "各委員會的召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/16.wav",
        "text": "協商時我們原則上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/17.wav",
        "text": "不再推翻各委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/18.wav",
        "text": "審查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/19.wav",
        "text": "第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/20.wav",
        "text": "這點也非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/21.wav",
        "text": "有一件事要跟大家特別報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/22.wav",
        "text": "113年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/23.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/24.wav",
        "text": "預計可以在12月中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/25.wav",
        "text": "完成三讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/26.wav",
        "text": "12月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/27.wav",
        "text": "恭請總統公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/28.wav",
        "text": "但是因為113年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/29.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算執行期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/30.wav",
        "text": "是到12月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/31.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/32.wav",
        "text": "如果有預算凍結案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/33.wav",
        "text": "各機關又要函請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/34.wav",
        "text": "本院來排審解凍的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/35.wav",
        "text": "跨年度到114年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/36.wav",
        "text": "那麼就會過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/37.wav",
        "text": "預算年度的執行期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/38.wav",
        "text": "因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/39.wav",
        "text": "針對預算的凍結案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/40.wav",
        "text": "我們除了在協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/41.wav",
        "text": "照協商內容通過之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/42.wav",
        "text": "其餘各委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/43.wav",
        "text": "已通過之凍結案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/44.wav",
        "text": "大家是否同意改為書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/45.wav",
        "text": "這要問問各黨團的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/46.wav",
        "text": "表述一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/47.wav",
        "text": "\n台灣民眾黨黨團黃總召請表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/48.wav",
        "text": "報告院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/49.wav",
        "text": "通常提書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/50.wav",
        "text": "我們大家其實書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/51.wav",
        "text": "看過非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/52.wav",
        "text": "大概就是作文比賽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/53.wav",
        "text": "虛應故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/54.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在提案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/55.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候只提書面報告可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/56.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候不是只有書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/57.wav",
        "text": "還要報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/58.wav",
        "text": "因為實際上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/59.wav",
        "text": "如果是採取凍結案的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/60.wav",
        "text": "而不是採取刪除的方式的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/61.wav",
        "text": "基本上就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/62.wav",
        "text": "給他們機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/63.wav",
        "text": "針對那個凍結的事由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/64.wav",
        "text": "好好地來做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/65.wav",
        "text": "以及說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/66.wav",
        "text": "一律都把它改成書面報告的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/67.wav",
        "text": "其實我們坐在這花這麼多的時間審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/68.wav",
        "text": "就沒有什麼實質的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/69.wav",
        "text": "乾脆大家就宣布通過就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/70.wav",
        "text": "嘛大家花這麼多勞力時間費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/71.wav",
        "text": "在處理這些預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/72.wav",
        "text": "事實上沒有什麼太大實際的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/73.wav",
        "text": "要以時程來當作理由的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/74.wav",
        "text": "我必須要老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/75.wav",
        "text": "以時程上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/76.wav",
        "text": "來當作理由的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/77.wav",
        "text": "這個案子到底是什麼時候應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/78.wav",
        "text": "要處理呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/79.wav",
        "text": "這個案子是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/80.wav",
        "text": "上屆國會該處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/81.wav",
        "text": "還是我們該處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/82.wav",
        "text": "事實上都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/83.wav",
        "text": "執行到快要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/84.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/85.wav",
        "text": "啊上一屆沒處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/86.wav",
        "text": "到我們這一屆來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/87.wav",
        "text": "我們花了這麼多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/88.wav",
        "text": "去寫提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/89.wav",
        "text": "如果只是交書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/90.wav",
        "text": "虛應一應故事沒有經過檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/91.wav",
        "text": "就可以過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/92.wav",
        "text": "其實打從一開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/93.wav",
        "text": "我們大家就不用搞得這麼辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/94.wav",
        "text": "啊各委員的辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/95.wav",
        "text": "黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/96.wav",
        "text": "大家都在做這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/97.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/98.wav",
        "text": "對於剛剛院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/99.wav",
        "text": "所提的那樣的解決方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/100.wav",
        "text": "我們認為並不妥當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/101.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們認同剛剛院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/102.wav",
        "text": "所裁示的任何的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/103.wav",
        "text": "預算案其實包括法案也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/104.wav",
        "text": "今天我們碰到要審議協"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/105.wav",
        "text": "協商的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/106.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/107.wav",
        "text": "──營業跟非營業的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/108.wav",
        "text": "還是要以委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/109.wav",
        "text": "所以很同意剛剛院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/110.wav",
        "text": "說的我們就不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/111.wav",
        "text": "在協商的場域去推翻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/112.wav",
        "text": "或去增加委員會沒有的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/113.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個都遵從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/114.wav",
        "text": "委員會的審查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/115.wav",
        "text": "因為時限的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/116.wav",
        "text": "事實上現在已經年底了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/117.wav",
        "text": "我也了解過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/118.wav",
        "text": "確實往例也是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/119.wav",
        "text": "如果在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/120.wav",
        "text": "時間壓得很緊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/121.wav",
        "text": "的狀況之下確實往例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/122.wav",
        "text": "大家基本上也都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/123.wav",
        "text": "用書面報告來取代之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/124.wav",
        "text": "之也不會因為是書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/125.wav",
        "text": "就限縮了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/126.wav",
        "text": "我想關切預算的執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/127.wav",
        "text": "我們各個委員會在各個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/128.wav",
        "text": "都還是可以持續監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/129.wav",
        "text": "因為政策是永續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/130.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/131.wav",
        "text": "但是如果有特別的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/132.wav",
        "text": "朝野在個案上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/133.wav",
        "text": "同意說這個重要到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/134.wav",
        "text": "一定不能只以書面來處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/135.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/136.wav",
        "text": "這也符合過去往例處理的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/137.wav",
        "text": "所以民進黨基本上是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/138.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/139.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/140.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/141.wav",
        "text": "委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/142.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們也是贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/143.wav",
        "text": "如果個別委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/144.wav",
        "text": "專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/145.wav",
        "text": "而不是書面報告的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/146.wav",
        "text": "我們認為就是要尊重個別的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/147.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/148.wav",
        "text": "如果個別委員很堅持的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/149.wav",
        "text": "這就是一個特例就是一個例外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/150.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們就要尊重他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/151.wav",
        "text": "就一定不能用書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/152.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們最後當然還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/153.wav",
        "text": "尊重院長的裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/154.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/155.wav",
        "text": "我要特別報告一下因為上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/156.wav",
        "text": "有很多因素法案的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/157.wav",
        "text": "等等使得這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/158.wav",
        "text": "等於整個延宕下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/159.wav",
        "text": "了所以我才提出這個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/160.wav",
        "text": "這個建議其實如果我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/161.wav",
        "text": "綜合性地把它併在一起的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/162.wav",
        "text": "審查會通過的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/163.wav",
        "text": "至於剛剛黃國昌總召所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/164.wav",
        "text": "我們到時候再來看好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/165.wav",
        "text": "現在先來審查通案好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/166.wav",
        "text": "我們先進入通案謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/167.wav",
        "text": "\n有關113年度附屬單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/168.wav",
        "text": "預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/169.wav",
        "text": "我們通案協商提案彙整表都在各位的手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/170.wav",
        "text": "主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/171.wav",
        "text": "文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/172.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/173.wav",
        "text": "跟召集委員有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/174.wav",
        "text": "什麼文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/175.wav",
        "text": "在後面併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/176.wav",
        "text": "併在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/177.wav",
        "text": "第一個是賴士葆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/178.wav",
        "text": "第二個是林憶君的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/179.wav",
        "text": "沒關係等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/180.wav",
        "text": "議事處人員再發到每個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/181.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部跟列席的召集委員手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/182.wav",
        "text": "\n我們先審查第1案賴士葆的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/183.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/184.wav",
        "text": "我們第1案修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/185.wav",
        "text": "\n我們進入第2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/186.wav",
        "text": "有文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/187.wav",
        "text": "看各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/188.wav",
        "text": "林憶君委員所提的案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/189.wav",
        "text": "主席請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/190.wav",
        "text": "因為那個字有點小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/191.wav",
        "text": "可不可以唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/192.wav",
        "text": "爰建請衛生福利部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/193.wav",
        "text": "於1個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/194.wav",
        "text": "邀集全國六家公立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/195.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/196.wav",
        "text": "相關主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/197.wav",
        "text": "因為這看不太清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/198.wav",
        "text": "是相關主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/199.wav",
        "text": "機關及團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/200.wav",
        "text": "研議全面慢性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/201.wav",
        "text": "處方箋釋出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/202.wav",
        "text": "對對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/203.wav",
        "text": "你眼睛很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/204.wav",
        "text": "大家如果沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/205.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/206.wav",
        "text": "是營業預算的經濟組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/207.wav",
        "text": "在換場的期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/208.wav",
        "text": "想請教一下院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/209.wav",
        "text": "轉換到行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/210.wav",
        "text": "所以我們有遞補的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/211.wav",
        "text": "王義川委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/212.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/213.wav",
        "text": "請告訴我們一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/214.wav",
        "text": "沒有我們都不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/215.wav",
        "text": "包括他當事人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/216.wav",
        "text": "也還沒有收到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/217.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/218.wav",
        "text": "他要趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/219.wav",
        "text": "\n儘快把這個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/220.wav",
        "text": "對越快越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/221.wav",
        "text": "他當事人也還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/222.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛跟他見面他還沒收到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/223.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是等一下會後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/224.wav",
        "text": "跟我們黨團說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/225.wav",
        "text": "因為我們非常關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/226.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/227.wav",
        "text": "各位召集委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/228.wav",
        "text": "我們現在協商113年度中央政府總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/229.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算經濟委員會營業部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/230.wav",
        "text": "包括台灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/231.wav",
        "text": "糖業股份有限公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/232.wav",
        "text": "台糖的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/233.wav",
        "text": "劉代理董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/234.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/235.wav",
        "text": "第二位台灣中油公司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/236.wav",
        "text": "方董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/237.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/238.wav",
        "text": "第三位台灣電力公司的曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/239.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/240.wav",
        "text": "第四位台灣自來水公司的李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/241.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/242.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我們先討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/243.wav",
        "text": "台灣糖業股份有限公司部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/244.wav",
        "text": "先從第1案開始討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/245.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員針對第1案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/246.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/247.wav",
        "text": "改主決議有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/248.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/249.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在進入第2案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/250.wav",
        "text": "改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/251.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/252.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第3案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/253.wav",
        "text": "改主決議有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/254.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/255.wav",
        "text": "\n第4案第5案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/256.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/257.wav",
        "text": "院長請問到底幾案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/258.wav",
        "text": "第4案及第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/259.wav",
        "text": "第4不是我的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/260.wav",
        "text": "我知道併案討論科目相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/261.wav",
        "text": "併案討論黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/262.wav",
        "text": "所提的凍結50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/263.wav",
        "text": "請問有沒有什麼寶貴意見要發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/264.wav",
        "text": "其實就如同我在提案上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/265.wav",
        "text": "所講的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/266.wav",
        "text": "之前台糖股份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/267.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/268.wav",
        "text": "賤賣台糖的資產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/269.wav",
        "text": "如果加上法定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/270.wav",
        "text": "遲延利息的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/271.wav",
        "text": "如果加上法定遲延利息"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/272.wav",
        "text": "是多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/273.wav",
        "text": "台糖今天有人來嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/274.wav",
        "text": "因為本來的金額是1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/275.wav",
        "text": "自99年6月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/276.wav",
        "text": "起至清償日為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/277.wav",
        "text": "按週年利率5%計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/278.wav",
        "text": "之利息"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/279.wav",
        "text": "如果加上從99年到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/280.wav",
        "text": "目前為止的利息算起來也很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/281.wav",
        "text": "驚人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/282.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止你們強制執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/283.wav",
        "text": "真的滿足的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/284.wav",
        "text": "可能連付遲延利息都"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/285.wav",
        "text": "不夠"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/286.wav",
        "text": "啊這個案子事實上從上一屆"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/287.wav",
        "text": "國會的時候就有委員在追"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/288.wav",
        "text": "啊你們去強制執行的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/289.wav",
        "text": "最近一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/290.wav",
        "text": "去執行"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/291.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/292.wav",
        "text": "執行的結果32萬5,5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/293.wav",
        "text": "感覺好像是強制執行不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/294.wav",
        "text": "財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/295.wav",
        "text": "但問題是很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/296.wav",
        "text": "啊按照我們大家所得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/297.wav",
        "text": "資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/298.wav",
        "text": "台糖的前董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/299.wav",
        "text": "吳乃仁過得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/300.wav",
        "text": "可以去club"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/301.wav",
        "text": "聊宇宙大爆炸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/302.wav",
        "text": "啊出入都有車子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/303.wav",
        "text": "啊一天到晚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/304.wav",
        "text": "可以去豪華的餐廳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/305.wav",
        "text": "但沒有錢可以賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/306.wav",
        "text": "你們台糖真的有認真追償嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/307.wav",
        "text": "這是提這個案子最主要的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/308.wav",
        "text": "因為從上一屆的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/309.wav",
        "text": "就有委員開始在追"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/310.wav",
        "text": "嘛我知道那時候陳椒華"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/311.wav",
        "text": "委員就不斷在追這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/312.wav",
        "text": "但你們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/313.wav",
        "text": "強制執行出來的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/314.wav",
        "text": "現在到底還有多少錢沒有賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/315.wav",
        "text": "接下來打算要怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/316.wav",
        "text": "拿債權憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/317.wav",
        "text": "掛在台糖公司的牆壁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/318.wav",
        "text": "上面當紀念品嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/319.wav",
        "text": "因為另外一位廖先翔委員不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/320.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/321.wav",
        "text": "大概是3,973萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/322.wav",
        "text": "大概占比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/323.wav",
        "text": "四分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/324.wav",
        "text": "其中那3,973萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/325.wav",
        "text": "吳前董事長的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/326.wav",
        "text": "我們每一年都會去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/327.wav",
        "text": "查調債務人的所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/328.wav",
        "text": "還有查調債務人的財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/329.wav",
        "text": "這部分會持續再追償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/330.wav",
        "text": "這部分是有持續在辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/331.wav",
        "text": "這個案子確實是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/332.wav",
        "text": "繼續再執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/333.wav",
        "text": "我們建議是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/334.wav",
        "text": "列為我們的書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/335.wav",
        "text": "就是改成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/336.wav",
        "text": "請台糖公司在三個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/337.wav",
        "text": "提出具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/338.wav",
        "text": "追償計畫的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/339.wav",
        "text": "以上建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/340.wav",
        "text": "書記長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/341.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/342.wav",
        "text": "我針對廖先翔委員這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/343.wav",
        "text": "我們看看台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/344.wav",
        "text": "台糖編的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/345.wav",
        "text": "今年編的預算是高達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/346.wav",
        "text": "4,513萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/347.wav",
        "text": "但是我們看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/348.wav",
        "text": "它去年的決算數只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/349.wav",
        "text": "941萬3,000元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/350.wav",
        "text": "為什麼增加的幅度會那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/351.wav",
        "text": "3005百多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/352.wav",
        "text": "實際上的支出有那麼多嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/353.wav",
        "text": "379.53"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/354.wav",
        "text": "%增加的幅度非常的高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/355.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/356.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/357.wav",
        "text": "我們即問即答這樣速度快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/358.wav",
        "text": "同意減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/359.wav",
        "text": "他說編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/360.wav",
        "text": "他前面那個問題你沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/361.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/362.wav",
        "text": "不好意思前面部分是因為原來預估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/363.wav",
        "text": "113年度會有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/364.wav",
        "text": "相關訴訟的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/365.wav",
        "text": "事務費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/366.wav",
        "text": "特別是針對農業工程規劃設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/367.wav",
        "text": "的還有灌溉排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/368.wav",
        "text": "水農路設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/369.wav",
        "text": "還有整地的這些規劃費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/370.wav",
        "text": "謝謝劉代理董事長說明\n蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/371.wav",
        "text": "書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/372.wav",
        "text": "針對提案5的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/373.wav",
        "text": "我想剛剛台糖也有做出說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/374.wav",
        "text": "持續在做強制執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/375.wav",
        "text": "基本上強制執行就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/376.wav",
        "text": "訴訟程序的最後一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/377.wav",
        "text": "嘛而它有持續在做的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/378.wav",
        "text": "強制執行的結果當作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/379.wav",
        "text": "現在我們要去凍結它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/380.wav",
        "text": "預算的一個理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/381.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會提凍結預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/382.wav",
        "text": "就是我們認為台糖根本沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/383.wav",
        "text": "認真去進行強制執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/384.wav",
        "text": "嘛你有認真進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/385.wav",
        "text": "強制執行或是沒有認真進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/386.wav",
        "text": "強制執行對於結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/387.wav",
        "text": "當然會有差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/388.wav",
        "text": "啊你消極的沒有去進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/389.wav",
        "text": "就掛一張債權憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/390.wav",
        "text": "那是全體納稅人的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/391.wav",
        "text": "耶你們有向執行法院聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/392.wav",
        "text": "聲請命債務人報告財產狀態嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/393.wav",
        "text": "債務人顯有履行之義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/394.wav",
        "text": "故不履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/395.wav",
        "text": "在強制執行法上面的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/396.wav",
        "text": "有向執行法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/397.wav",
        "text": "要求聲請嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/398.wav",
        "text": "過著那麼奢靡的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/399.wav",
        "text": "欠國家的錢不還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/400.wav",
        "text": "台糖真的有認真的在追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/401.wav",
        "text": "我就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/402.wav",
        "text": "認為台糖沒有認真的在追討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/403.wav",
        "text": "所以才會提這個凍結案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/404.wav",
        "text": "這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/405.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/406.wav",
        "text": "就先保留嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/407.wav",
        "text": "好那我們先保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/408.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/409.wav",
        "text": "改主決議請問各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/410.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第8案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/411.wav",
        "text": "撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/412.wav",
        "text": "改主決議請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/413.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/414.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/415.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/416.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/417.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/418.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第15案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/419.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/420.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過\n第16案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/421.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/422.wav",
        "text": "因為這一案在我的選區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/423.wav",
        "text": "當時確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/424.wav",
        "text": "造成地方民眾的抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/425.wav",
        "text": "我記得我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/426.wav",
        "text": "協調了幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/427.wav",
        "text": "承諾不會再來這裡設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/428.wav",
        "text": "光電那我想台糖是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/429.wav",
        "text": "確定的話基本上我想這一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/430.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請劉代理董事長說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/431.wav",
        "text": "我們就確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/432.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/433.wav",
        "text": "第17案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/434.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/435.wav",
        "text": "這是台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/436.wav",
        "text": "黨團提的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/437.wav",
        "text": "嘛台糖願意在這邊表示這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/438.wav",
        "text": "態度我覺得也很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/439.wav",
        "text": "但也很簡單我們只要他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/440.wav",
        "text": "在三個月內提書面報告而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/441.wav",
        "text": "嘛沒有強人所難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/442.wav",
        "text": "啊就一個書面報告來白紙黑字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/443.wav",
        "text": "把你剛剛承諾的事項寫清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/444.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/445.wav",
        "text": "又發生了什麼樣的事故"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/446.wav",
        "text": "或者是轉彎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/447.wav",
        "text": "大家要追究責任才有個清楚的憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/448.wav",
        "text": "嘛三個月內提書面報告這很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/449.wav",
        "text": "看第4案第5案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/450.wav",
        "text": "\n休息3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/451.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們進入台灣中油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/452.wav",
        "text": "謝謝台糖的劉代理董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/453.wav",
        "text": "併委員會決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/454.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/455.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第21案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/456.wav",
        "text": "改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/457.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/458.wav",
        "text": "\n第22案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/459.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/460.wav",
        "text": "\n第23案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/461.wav",
        "text": "\n第24案改主決議有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/462.wav",
        "text": "\n第25案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/463.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/464.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/465.wav",
        "text": "\n第26案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/466.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/467.wav",
        "text": "這是國民黨黨團所提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/468.wav",
        "text": "請問各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/469.wav",
        "text": "書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/470.wav",
        "text": "委託調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/471.wav",
        "text": "等費用這個費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/472.wav",
        "text": "單從字面上就會讓人覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/473.wav",
        "text": "事實上它是一個必要的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/474.wav",
        "text": "如果照這一案直接刪除一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/475.wav",
        "text": "了所以我們還是希望可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/476.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要就委託檢驗費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/477.wav",
        "text": "來提案刪除呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/478.wav",
        "text": "我們請國民黨團王鴻薇委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/479.wav",
        "text": "它的專業服務費是9.6億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/480.wav",
        "text": "事實上都不到九成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/481.wav",
        "text": "所以不是刪減一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/482.wav",
        "text": "我們是根據它的實現數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/483.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/484.wav",
        "text": "我們同意減列3,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/485.wav",
        "text": "原因就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/486.wav",
        "text": "接下來請黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/487.wav",
        "text": "你們編列的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/488.wav",
        "text": "對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/489.wav",
        "text": "我請教一下到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/490.wav",
        "text": "已經實現了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/491.wav",
        "text": "0月份已經執行了7.46億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/492.wav",
        "text": "編了9億6,340萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/493.wav",
        "text": "執行到現在執行了7億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/494.wav",
        "text": "4,600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/495.wav",
        "text": "到年底的話你們覺得你們可以執行到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/496.wav",
        "text": "到年底我們預定執行9億3,000萬左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/497.wav",
        "text": "所以提案委員也很貼心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/498.wav",
        "text": "他精準的算到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/499.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/500.wav",
        "text": "提高你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/501.wav",
        "text": "的預算實現率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/502.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/503.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/504.wav",
        "text": "委員原提案是刪減6,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/505.wav",
        "text": "我們跟委員溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/506.wav",
        "text": "希望不要刪減那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/507.wav",
        "text": "按照我們預估的執行情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/508.wav",
        "text": "來刪減然後委員同意這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/509.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/510.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝中油的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/511.wav",
        "text": "第27案我們就同意減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/512.wav",
        "text": "\n第28案請問各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/513.wav",
        "text": "沒問題我們通過改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/514.wav",
        "text": "\n第29案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/515.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/516.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/517.wav",
        "text": "我們通過\n第30案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/518.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/519.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/520.wav",
        "text": "我們通過\n第31案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/521.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/522.wav",
        "text": "要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/523.wav",
        "text": "沒有我們就同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/524.wav",
        "text": "\n第33案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/525.wav",
        "text": "我們請傅崐萁總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/526.wav",
        "text": "現在我們在審決算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/527.wav",
        "text": "專業服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/528.wav",
        "text": "營業成本探勘費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/529.wav",
        "text": "108年到111年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/530.wav",
        "text": "的最高決算數為11億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/531.wav",
        "text": "近4年決算數實現率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/532.wav",
        "text": "最高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/533.wav",
        "text": "這可能太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/534.wav",
        "text": "了不過沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/535.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/536.wav",
        "text": "要特別跟中油講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/537.wav",
        "text": "哈囉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/538.wav",
        "text": "董事長發言人是傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/539.wav",
        "text": "傅總召您看錯方向了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/540.wav",
        "text": "你要繼續看那邊也可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/541.wav",
        "text": "你們的執行率這麼差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/542.wav",
        "text": "為什麼每一年都跟立法院要這麼多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/543.wav",
        "text": "請說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/544.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/545.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在國外的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/546.wav",
        "text": "權益的併購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/547.wav",
        "text": "可以交易的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/548.wav",
        "text": "可以辦理的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/549.wav",
        "text": "瞬息萬變的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/550.wav",
        "text": "我們希望在每一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/551.wav",
        "text": "都能夠編列相當的一個金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/552.wav",
        "text": "跟這些礦區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/553.wav",
        "text": "跟國外公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/554.wav",
        "text": "能夠有一個比較彈性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/555.wav",
        "text": "談判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/556.wav",
        "text": "一旦成熟的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/557.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/558.wav",
        "text": "基本上是這樣的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/559.wav",
        "text": "請問董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/560.wav",
        "text": "你們在國外的探勘或交易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/561.wav",
        "text": "前後大概要花多少時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/562.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/563.wav",
        "text": "所有資料的蒐集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/564.wav",
        "text": "到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/565.wav",
        "text": "全部要花多少時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/566.wav",
        "text": "每一個礦區的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/567.wav",
        "text": "不盡相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/568.wav",
        "text": "不過流程都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/569.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/570.wav",
        "text": "有這麼一個機會之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/571.wav",
        "text": "我們必須跟他索取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/572.wav",
        "text": "已經存在的地質狀況資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/573.wav",
        "text": "包括政策資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/574.wav",
        "text": "包括礦區"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/575.wav",
        "text": "拿回來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/576.wav",
        "text": "我們要去做一些研判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/577.wav",
        "text": "油氣的蘊藏量與估算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/578.wav",
        "text": "專業角度來看是不是合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/579.wav",
        "text": "就開始進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/580.wav",
        "text": "等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/581.wav",
        "text": "當地國家政府的支持與同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/582.wav",
        "text": "之後才會進入實質的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/583.wav",
        "text": "礦區情況不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/584.wav",
        "text": "我抓的平均大概都要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/585.wav",
        "text": "一年左右"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/586.wav",
        "text": "既然從頭到尾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/587.wav",
        "text": "國際談判能力已經很強了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/588.wav",
        "text": "包括選案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/589.wav",
        "text": "包括過程的討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/590.wav",
        "text": "到最後確認"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/591.wav",
        "text": "一年時間算是非常非常快的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/592.wav",
        "text": "民間企業大概都沒有像你們這樣的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/593.wav",
        "text": "就可以經過相當的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/594.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這麼急著跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/595.wav",
        "text": "立法院要預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/596.wav",
        "text": "但是你們連續不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/597.wav",
        "text": "長此以往"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/598.wav",
        "text": "從108年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/599.wav",
        "text": "不能要立法院不斷給你們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/600.wav",
        "text": "做空白授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/601.wav",
        "text": "所以董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/602.wav",
        "text": "本席建議你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/603.wav",
        "text": "要從實編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/604.wav",
        "text": "不要這樣空白授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/605.wav",
        "text": "我是完全不能同意也不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/606.wav",
        "text": "中油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/607.wav",
        "text": "在今年12月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/608.wav",
        "text": "把今年確切的執行數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/609.wav",
        "text": "發給各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/610.wav",
        "text": "我們還有很多預算要看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/611.wav",
        "text": "至於114年度部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/612.wav",
        "text": "實際執行的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/613.wav",
        "text": "再做最後的決定好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/614.wav",
        "text": "國民黨一向很善良"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/615.wav",
        "text": "只減3億5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/616.wav",
        "text": "但是以後針對這種空白授權的事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/617.wav",
        "text": "不要習慣性要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/618.wav",
        "text": "要立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/619.wav",
        "text": "空白授權好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/620.wav",
        "text": "方董事長請稍待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/621.wav",
        "text": "等一下一併回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/622.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/623.wav",
        "text": "發言之前我宣布一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/624.wav",
        "text": "就不要再徵詢主席同意了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/625.wav",
        "text": "直接發言這樣速度快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/626.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/627.wav",
        "text": "我只有一個簡單的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/628.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/629.wav",
        "text": "執行了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/630.wav",
        "text": "預計到年底會執行多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/631.wav",
        "text": "方董事長針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/632.wav",
        "text": "剛剛沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/633.wav",
        "text": "但在預算執行部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/634.wav",
        "text": "不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/635.wav",
        "text": "就是去年來講我們編的預算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/636.wav",
        "text": "34.49億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/637.wav",
        "text": "而112年實際執行數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/638.wav",
        "text": "是38.25億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/639.wav",
        "text": "也就是實際執行的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/640.wav",
        "text": "在各年度狀況不一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/641.wav",
        "text": "有可能會超過也有可能會低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/642.wav",
        "text": "這沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/643.wav",
        "text": "今年的部分我們預估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/644.wav",
        "text": "會執行到44.62億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/645.wav",
        "text": "針對以上兩個問題做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/646.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/647.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛前面還有個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/648.wav",
        "text": "所以可能要麻煩董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/649.wav",
        "text": "也就是到現在執行多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/650.wav",
        "text": "預計到12月底可以執行多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/651.wav",
        "text": "已經執行了20.12億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/652.wav",
        "text": "1112月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/653.wav",
        "text": "會再執行23億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/654.wav",
        "text": "您的意思是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/655.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/656.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其他寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/657.wav",
        "text": "那剛才傅崐萁總召所提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/658.wav",
        "text": "書面報告好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/659.wav",
        "text": "\n第31案我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/660.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/661.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/662.wav",
        "text": "本案減列十分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/663.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/664.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/665.wav",
        "text": "\n請張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/666.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/667.wav",
        "text": "這筆預算非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/668.wav",
        "text": "這個是關係到我們三接的天然氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/669.wav",
        "text": "部分我在兩個月前開了記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/670.wav",
        "text": "這個工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/671.wav",
        "text": "有嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/672.wav",
        "text": "特別是它的輸氣管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/673.wav",
        "text": "品質有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/674.wav",
        "text": "這牽扯到公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/675.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/676.wav",
        "text": "它的承包商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/677.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣最大的承包商──中鼎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/678.wav",
        "text": "它不只材料有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/679.wav",
        "text": "它還假造了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/680.wav",
        "text": "假報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/681.wav",
        "text": "在我開記者會的當天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/682.wav",
        "text": "中油就發了聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/683.wav",
        "text": "發了新聞稿說會改進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/684.wav",
        "text": "啊隔一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/685.wav",
        "text": "我質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/686.wav",
        "text": "我質詢了經濟部長跟中油的董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/687.wav",
        "text": "你說你們會改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/688.wav",
        "text": "啊之後你們來我辦公室已經來了三次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/689.wav",
        "text": "我的要求很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/690.wav",
        "text": "我是贊成三接要如期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/691.wav",
        "text": "趕快要完工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/692.wav",
        "text": "明年3月要完工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/693.wav",
        "text": "要不然臺灣的天然氣會斷氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/694.wav",
        "text": "但我要求你們有兩個地方一定要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/695.wav",
        "text": "第一公共安全一定要做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/696.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們本來跟我講說你要1公里1公里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/697.wav",
        "text": "慢慢去改我說不行要全體去改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/698.wav",
        "text": "要不然更危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/699.wav",
        "text": "喔你們說要改對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/700.wav",
        "text": "第二個你要追究責任我說你把報告拿過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/701.wav",
        "text": "很清楚跟我交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/702.wav",
        "text": "至今過了兩個月了到現在沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/703.wav",
        "text": "耶你們一直找人來但都空手到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/704.wav",
        "text": "連報告到現在都沒有到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/705.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我提案第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/706.wav",
        "text": "第36案跟第43案是一起的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/707.wav",
        "text": "這邊先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/708.wav",
        "text": "減列了十分之一的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/709.wav",
        "text": "還要刪減2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/710.wav",
        "text": "現在是不是有解決方案有解決方案不是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/711.wav",
        "text": "第一個到底詳細的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/712.wav",
        "text": "你的進度到什麼地方了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/713.wav",
        "text": "第二個你責任到底追到哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/714.wav",
        "text": "你現在不能只有記點啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/715.wav",
        "text": "這個廠商的責任你追到哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/716.wav",
        "text": "如果這個可以做到的話我們再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/717.wav",
        "text": "看這個預算要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/718.wav",
        "text": "啓楷委員的詢問好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/719.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝張委員有關這個三接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/720.wav",
        "text": "保冷材的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/721.wav",
        "text": "公司這邊已經確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/722.wav",
        "text": "了要求承攬商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/723.wav",
        "text": "不合格的材料就是要拆除重換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/724.wav",
        "text": "我想這個就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/725.wav",
        "text": "承攬商來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/726.wav",
        "text": "他也同意這樣一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/727.wav",
        "text": "往這個方向去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/728.wav",
        "text": "處理首先跟委員做這個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/729.wav",
        "text": "第36案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/730.wav",
        "text": "這項費用的編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/731.wav",
        "text": "跟三接沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/732.wav",
        "text": "這項費用的編列是使用在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/733.wav",
        "text": "我們總公司的用人費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/734.wav",
        "text": "維運所需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/735.wav",
        "text": "相關支出所使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/736.wav",
        "text": "編列的預算是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/737.wav",
        "text": "16.88億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/738.wav",
        "text": "到10月份來講已經動支了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/739.wav",
        "text": "14.25億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/740.wav",
        "text": "數目16.88億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/741.wav",
        "text": "都會全數的支用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/742.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以如果刪除的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/743.wav",
        "text": "我們是認為這不符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/744.wav",
        "text": "實際建議不要刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/745.wav",
        "text": "這項費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/746.wav",
        "text": "因為這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/747.wav",
        "text": "第36案是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/748.wav",
        "text": "減列十分之一的營業費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/749.wav",
        "text": "第43案是相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/750.wav",
        "text": "是具體針對固定資產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/751.wav",
        "text": "建設的費用減列2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/752.wav",
        "text": "事實上再看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/753.wav",
        "text": "啓楷委員民眾黨也有在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/754.wav",
        "text": "55案主決議提出具體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/755.wav",
        "text": "要求所以我是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/756.wav",
        "text": "把它聚焦就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/757.wav",
        "text": "該是這個三接而且是保冷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/758.wav",
        "text": "材的採購要改善的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/759.wav",
        "text": "就把它聚焦在對的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/760.wav",
        "text": "去處理它的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/761.wav",
        "text": "本身沒有那麼直接啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/762.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是可以請啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/763.wav",
        "text": "同意因為36案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/764.wav",
        "text": "營業費用是比較不相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/765.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/766.wav",
        "text": "第43案還有你們的主決議第55案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/767.wav",
        "text": "等到他們的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/768.wav",
        "text": "提供給您我們後續再來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/769.wav",
        "text": "但是第36案我想替他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/770.wav",
        "text": "來爭取一下因為畢竟項目不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/771.wav",
        "text": "誤殺不同的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/772.wav",
        "text": "誤殺無辜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/773.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是第36案可以做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/774.wav",
        "text": "不一樣的處置但是就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/775.wav",
        "text": "這個案子的本身第43案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/776.wav",
        "text": "跟第55案的主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/777.wav",
        "text": "是可以請他們就這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/778.wav",
        "text": "部分的報告提出來我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/779.wav",
        "text": "再來處理好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/780.wav",
        "text": "就項目上就我的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/781.wav",
        "text": "現在往下一個案回頭再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/782.wav",
        "text": "\n第37案改主決議大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/783.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒有意見我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/784.wav",
        "text": "\n第38案減列1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/785.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/786.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見我們減列1,000萬通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/787.wav",
        "text": "\n第39案我們改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/788.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/789.wav",
        "text": "好\n第40案第41"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/790.wav",
        "text": "現在請一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/791.wav",
        "text": "第41案改減列2%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/792.wav",
        "text": "減列10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/793.wav",
        "text": "我想先請中油公司表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/794.wav",
        "text": "固定資產投資計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/795.wav",
        "text": "都是相類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/796.wav",
        "text": "我是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/797.wav",
        "text": "這三個案子是不是合併一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/798.wav",
        "text": "考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/799.wav",
        "text": "我剛才已經宣布了第42案改為主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/800.wav",
        "text": "現在就是第40案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/801.wav",
        "text": "我們就同意辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/802.wav",
        "text": "第40案減列10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/803.wav",
        "text": "第41案減列2%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/804.wav",
        "text": "喔一樣對不起它是國民黨黨團所提議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/805.wav",
        "text": "最多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/806.wav",
        "text": "41就併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/807.wav",
        "text": "你們編列的預算是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/808.wav",
        "text": "528億4,993萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/809.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/810.wav",
        "text": "\n到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/811.wav",
        "text": "執行了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/812.wav",
        "text": "董事長請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/813.wav",
        "text": "首先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/814.wav",
        "text": "我們到10月份已經執行了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/815.wav",
        "text": "412億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/816.wav",
        "text": "預定到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/817.wav",
        "text": "可以執行大約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/818.wav",
        "text": "470億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/819.wav",
        "text": "所以就等於是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/820.wav",
        "text": "這個提案要減列的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/821.wav",
        "text": "完美的幫你們把那多的10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/822.wav",
        "text": "給刪掉了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/823.wav",
        "text": "不是報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/824.wav",
        "text": "這部分我可以做個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/825.wav",
        "text": "我想各位也了解中油公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/826.wav",
        "text": "在目前的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/827.wav",
        "text": "狀態下財務狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/828.wav",
        "text": "並不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/829.wav",
        "text": "因此在公司來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/830.wav",
        "text": "執行今年的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/831.wav",
        "text": "也都採取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/832.wav",
        "text": "緊縮的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/833.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/834.wav",
        "text": "固定資產的投入也會做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/835.wav",
        "text": "先後順序的排比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/836.wav",
        "text": "可以暫時不做的就先不做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/837.wav",
        "text": "在固定資產投資方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/838.wav",
        "text": "就執行數上來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/839.wav",
        "text": "就如我剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/840.wav",
        "text": "會有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/841.wav",
        "text": "沒有執行的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/842.wav",
        "text": "謝謝方董事長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/843.wav",
        "text": "各位幹部我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/844.wav",
        "text": "第40案跟第41案併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/845.wav",
        "text": "併案減列10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/846.wav",
        "text": "43案保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/847.wav",
        "text": "我們回頭再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/848.wav",
        "text": "討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/849.wav",
        "text": "\n第44案改為主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/850.wav",
        "text": "\n第45案主決議大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/851.wav",
        "text": "沒有我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/852.wav",
        "text": "\n第46案主決議做文字修正大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/853.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/854.wav",
        "text": "\n第47案大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/855.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/856.wav",
        "text": "\n第48案大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/857.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第49案各位有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/858.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/859.wav",
        "text": "因為委員的主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/860.wav",
        "text": "是要求你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/861.wav",
        "text": "寬列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/862.wav",
        "text": "114年的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/863.wav",
        "text": "對於這樣的主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/864.wav",
        "text": "因為這是涉及你們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/865.wav",
        "text": "這個部分有辦法來執行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/866.wav",
        "text": "請中油說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/867.wav",
        "text": "這個案子是針對我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/868.wav",
        "text": "在南部興建一個大樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/869.wav",
        "text": "我們也是要把它加速進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/870.wav",
        "text": "因此在預算上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/871.wav",
        "text": "去寬列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/872.wav",
        "text": "好寬列但是要核實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/873.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/874.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/875.wav",
        "text": "寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/876.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/877.wav",
        "text": "第49"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/878.wav",
        "text": "案通過\n第50案主決議大家有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/879.wav",
        "text": "意見請吳思瑤幹事長再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/880.wav",
        "text": "同樣的這裡有委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/881.wav",
        "text": "決議是希望你們寬列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/882.wav",
        "text": "人事費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/883.wav",
        "text": "同樣的問題也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/884.wav",
        "text": "要核實啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/885.wav",
        "text": "不能浮濫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/886.wav",
        "text": "所以你們主決議的部分OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/887.wav",
        "text": "OKOK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/888.wav",
        "text": "好通過謝謝\n第51案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/889.wav",
        "text": "主決議大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/890.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過\n第52案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/891.wav",
        "text": "主決議大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/892.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第53案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/893.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/894.wav",
        "text": "\n第56案主決議有文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/895.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/896.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/897.wav",
        "text": "\n第57案主決議大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/898.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/899.wav",
        "text": "案\n中油第36"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/900.wav",
        "text": "案第43案保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/901.wav",
        "text": "謝謝中油公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/902.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n接下來我們請台灣電力公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/903.wav",
        "text": "謝謝台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/904.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/905.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/906.wav",
        "text": "第61案撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/907.wav",
        "text": "\n第62案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/908.wav",
        "text": "減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/909.wav",
        "text": "50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/910.wav",
        "text": "跟院長跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/911.wav",
        "text": "說我們這一筆預算原來的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/912.wav",
        "text": "提送的額度是4,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/913.wav",
        "text": "我們依照執行的比例到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/914.wav",
        "text": "我們執行的量大概已經到了3,500萬3,600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/915.wav",
        "text": "預計到年底要支出這麼多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/916.wav",
        "text": "我們請提案委員黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/917.wav",
        "text": "前面我已經說過了這個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/918.wav",
        "text": "本來早就該審了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/919.wav",
        "text": "那沒有審嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/920.wav",
        "text": "沒有審對你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/921.wav",
        "text": "要花這些宣傳的費用也沒有差別啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/922.wav",
        "text": "你們還是照樣花嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/923.wav",
        "text": "所以花到現在如果針對我們提案的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/924.wav",
        "text": "台電所提出來的說明是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/925.wav",
        "text": "編了4,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/926.wav",
        "text": "我們現在已經花了300多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/927.wav",
        "text": "剛剛董事長是說花多少300多多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/928.wav",
        "text": "預計到年底全年預計大概3,500萬到3,600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/929.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/930.wav",
        "text": "所以按照你們目前編4,500萬還多1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/931.wav",
        "text": "是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/932.wav",
        "text": "是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/933.wav",
        "text": "預計不會執行到大概我們就執行到八成左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/934.wav",
        "text": "我們講具體的數字啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/935.wav",
        "text": "董事長請你可以聽得懂我現在在釋放的善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/936.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是這樣子講因為我現在要預估到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/937.wav",
        "text": "所以我估計起來大概3,500萬到3,600"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/938.wav",
        "text": "所以大概是3,500萬對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/939.wav",
        "text": "差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/940.wav",
        "text": "所以減列1,000萬可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/941.wav",
        "text": "你是說今年嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/942.wav",
        "text": "對啊今年啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/943.wav",
        "text": "我是就事論事在跟你討論啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/944.wav",
        "text": "我必須要讓大家聽得懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/945.wav",
        "text": "我們為什麼提這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/946.wav",
        "text": "這個案子我也在經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/947.wav",
        "text": "直接提出質詢台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/948.wav",
        "text": "台電公司有營運上面的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/949.wav",
        "text": "經費拮据大家都了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/950.wav",
        "text": "但我們立委在立法院裡面監督預算執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/951.wav",
        "text": "我也要問錢花到哪裡去嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/952.wav",
        "text": "結果你們花了錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/953.wav",
        "text": "給特定的綠色媒體人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/954.wav",
        "text": "去做那些有的沒有的廣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/955.wav",
        "text": "我看了以後就很火啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/956.wav",
        "text": "\n我們台電很有錢啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/957.wav",
        "text": "這種錢都花得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/958.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會要求要減列50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/959.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你說你們現在已經花多少了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/960.wav",
        "text": "我聽了老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/961.wav",
        "text": "預算沒有審沒有過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/962.wav",
        "text": "你們錢照花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/963.wav",
        "text": "根本沒有差嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/964.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛請董事長聽得出我的善意是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/965.wav",
        "text": "我知道你也很無奈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/966.wav",
        "text": "編了4,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/967.wav",
        "text": "現在我就問你說到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/968.wav",
        "text": "預計總共會花多少錢嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/969.wav",
        "text": "所以嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/970.wav",
        "text": "你說3,500萬那我現在就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/971.wav",
        "text": "減列1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/972.wav",
        "text": "解決你的問題嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/973.wav",
        "text": "委員這樣子好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/974.wav",
        "text": "可不可以在減列額度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/975.wav",
        "text": "留一點點空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/976.wav",
        "text": "我已經留很多空間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/977.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個是我們實際預估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/978.wav",
        "text": "我們的業務單位跟我講實際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/979.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係啦你如果這樣堅持的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/980.wav",
        "text": "那這個案子就先保留吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/981.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤幹事長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/982.wav",
        "text": "我想是這樣啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/983.wav",
        "text": "剛剛黃國昌委員的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/984.wav",
        "text": "他從減列50%改為減1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/985.wav",
        "text": "可以或不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/986.wav",
        "text": "你們趕快估一下嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/987.wav",
        "text": "要留一點彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/988.wav",
        "text": "所以如果1,000萬全減列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/989.wav",
        "text": "可能你最後有一些些超支的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/990.wav",
        "text": "變得沒有辦法執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/991.wav",
        "text": "700萬可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/992.wav",
        "text": "也能夠運作好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/993.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/994.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/995.wav",
        "text": "這是我的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/996.wav",
        "text": "你的案子我在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/997.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/998.wav",
        "text": "我再具體講一下我們黨團的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/999.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1000.wav",
        "text": "做出我們民進黨團的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1001.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠商量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1002.wav",
        "text": "就是減列700萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1003.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就尊重提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1004.wav",
        "text": "我們的主張是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1005.wav",
        "text": "有什麼寶貴意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1006.wav",
        "text": "我都是希望事情能夠很圓滿的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1007.wav",
        "text": "明確的預估是3,600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1008.wav",
        "text": "執行大概到這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1009.wav",
        "text": "一些餘裕給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1010.wav",
        "text": "因為和最後決算有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1011.wav",
        "text": "如果刪700萬可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1012.wav",
        "text": "院長我可以說話了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1013.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1014.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請黃國昌總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1015.wav",
        "text": "不好意思喔請你們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1016.wav",
        "text": "已經執行的每一筆費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1017.wav",
        "text": "以及預估接下來要花的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1018.wav",
        "text": "一筆一筆清楚的列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1019.wav",
        "text": "送到黨團來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1020.wav",
        "text": "我們看完以後再決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1021.wav",
        "text": "這個案子就先保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1022.wav",
        "text": "第64案已經改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1023.wav",
        "text": "第65案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1024.wav",
        "text": "\n第66案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1025.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1026.wav",
        "text": "\n第67案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1027.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1028.wav",
        "text": "案可以併案討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1029.wav",
        "text": "\n第68案凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1030.wav",
        "text": "10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1031.wav",
        "text": "謝龍介委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1032.wav",
        "text": "因為金額很大說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1033.wav",
        "text": "報告院長這中間有幾個案子已經都改主決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1034.wav",
        "text": "議只有第68"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1035.wav",
        "text": "案這其實是謝龍介委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1036.wav",
        "text": "因為已經剩下一個月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1037.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠讓我們提書面報告說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1038.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1039.wav",
        "text": "要不要補充一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1040.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1041.wav",
        "text": "\n國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1042.wav",
        "text": "傅總召這邊還是思銘書記長這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1043.wav",
        "text": "因為台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1044.wav",
        "text": "現在的虧損已經造成全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1045.wav",
        "text": "各個產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1046.wav",
        "text": "一併的恐慌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1047.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個很嚴肅的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1048.wav",
        "text": "今天要我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1049.wav",
        "text": "變成一個凍結我們很難接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1050.wav",
        "text": "如果這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1051.wav",
        "text": "台電還有想法沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1052.wav",
        "text": "我們這個案子先保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1053.wav",
        "text": "各黨團的幹部我們就把它保留好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1054.wav",
        "text": "我們回頭再來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1055.wav",
        "text": "70案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1056.wav",
        "text": "已經在各位手上\n第74案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1057.wav",
        "text": "也是凍結10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1058.wav",
        "text": "\n第73案以前都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1059.wav",
        "text": "嘛都通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1060.wav",
        "text": "說明好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1061.wav",
        "text": "第74案好像有改主決議對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1062.wav",
        "text": "是第73案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1063.wav",
        "text": "前面第68案的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1064.wav",
        "text": "是雷同的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1065.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長我們就保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1066.wav",
        "text": "\n第75案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1067.wav",
        "text": "案我們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1068.wav",
        "text": "併案討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1069.wav",
        "text": "第76案是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1070.wav",
        "text": "減列250億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1071.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請曾董事長表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1072.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告這個規模真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1073.wav",
        "text": "很大啦減列的規模真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1074.wav",
        "text": "很大能不能夠有一些考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1075.wav",
        "text": "也執行到一定的額度了我們是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1076.wav",
        "text": "可以提書面報告來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1077.wav",
        "text": "我們請提案的張啓楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1078.wav",
        "text": "委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1079.wav",
        "text": "是國家既定的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1080.wav",
        "text": "對不對你們現在燒煤越燒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1081.wav",
        "text": "都又去買了電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1082.wav",
        "text": "我們這是一個很清楚的提案為了人民的健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1083.wav",
        "text": "不要再用肺發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1084.wav",
        "text": "而且減列的比例不高啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1085.wav",
        "text": "250億大概只有5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1086.wav",
        "text": "你這個執行應該還是有很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1087.wav",
        "text": "空間對不對你為了人民的健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1088.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告是有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1089.wav",
        "text": "空間啦但是你要減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1090.wav",
        "text": "國民黨都要凍結10%了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1091.wav",
        "text": "報告院長這些相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1092.wav",
        "text": "火力發電費用第76"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1093.wav",
        "text": "案第79案這些包含減列的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1094.wav",
        "text": "是不是都能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1095.wav",
        "text": "得到委員的同意共同一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1096.wav",
        "text": "比方如果張啓楷委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1097.wav",
        "text": "250億今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1098.wav",
        "text": "王鴻薇委員也在這一邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1099.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠併在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1100.wav",
        "text": "一起減250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1101.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1102.wav",
        "text": "就是用第79科目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1103.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長意思是用79科目這樣一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1104.wav",
        "text": "報告主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1105.wav",
        "text": "報告院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1106.wav",
        "text": "因為這是同樣一個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1107.wav",
        "text": "都是火力發電的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1108.wav",
        "text": "我也同意第76案到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1109.wav",
        "text": "第82案併一案來做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1110.wav",
        "text": "統一的減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1111.wav",
        "text": "只是我還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1112.wav",
        "text": "想要替台電來捍衛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1113.wav",
        "text": "因為看起來250億是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1114.wav",
        "text": "非常高額的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1115.wav",
        "text": "你們再省思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1116.wav",
        "text": "一下YesorNo因為就我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1117.wav",
        "text": "審議的我以前在教育文化委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1118.wav",
        "text": "5,000萬我們都痛得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1119.wav",
        "text": "要死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1120.wav",
        "text": "這250億這樣減列下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1121.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1122.wav",
        "text": "沒有委員我報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1123.wav",
        "text": "狀況是這個樣子就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1124.wav",
        "text": "其實這裡面有一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1125.wav",
        "text": "燃煤的費用是我們的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1126.wav",
        "text": "基本上是透過現貨價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1127.wav",
        "text": "如果有下降我們就會去搶現貨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1128.wav",
        "text": "搶回來的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1129.wav",
        "text": "預算撙節今年其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1130.wav",
        "text": "包括整個煤的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1131.wav",
        "text": "下降都有在剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1132.wav",
        "text": "才啓楷委員提到的狀況是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1133.wav",
        "text": "因為這減的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1134.wav",
        "text": "不是量是價價確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1135.wav",
        "text": "是單價有下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1136.wav",
        "text": "所以幾位委員提到的減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1137.wav",
        "text": "我們說現在我們做得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1138.wav",
        "text": "也一併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1139.wav",
        "text": "跟所有委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1140.wav",
        "text": "好他做得到那就撙節吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1141.wav",
        "text": "案我們就共同減列250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1142.wav",
        "text": "報告院長其實這個就會跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1143.wav",
        "text": "謝龍介委員凍結10%是一樣的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1144.wav",
        "text": "把它併在一起吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1145.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1146.wav",
        "text": "不行現在提案委員不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1147.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1148.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1149.wav",
        "text": "是科目一樣說明不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1150.wav",
        "text": "你不知道這個朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1151.wav",
        "text": "你一定要一步一步來不要急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1152.wav",
        "text": "\n我們就這樣子我們就減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1153.wav",
        "text": "250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1154.wav",
        "text": "案併案共減列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1155.wav",
        "text": "250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1156.wav",
        "text": "科目銷售成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1157.wav",
        "text": "─火力發電費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1158.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1159.wav",
        "text": "因為這些案子裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1160.wav",
        "text": "有一些是改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1161.wav",
        "text": "主決議是不是照常通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1162.wav",
        "text": "第77案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1163.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1164.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1165.wav",
        "text": "\n第78案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1166.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1167.wav",
        "text": "\n第81案改主決議大家有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1168.wav",
        "text": "沒有謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1169.wav",
        "text": "案大家同意用一個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1170.wav",
        "text": "來減列250億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1171.wav",
        "text": "但是我看前面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1172.wav",
        "text": "要不要就一起處理掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1173.wav",
        "text": "不是啦科目不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1174.wav",
        "text": "是同樣的事你們說一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1175.wav",
        "text": "其實是這樣發電的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1176.wav",
        "text": "是一個橫向的綜整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1177.wav",
        "text": "燃料費用是縱向的綜整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1178.wav",
        "text": "只是整理的方式不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1179.wav",
        "text": "是所以基本上是同一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1180.wav",
        "text": "大致上意思是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1181.wav",
        "text": "但剛才院長說這是兩個不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1182.wav",
        "text": "減列250億的我們先通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1183.wav",
        "text": "一步一步來\n第83案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1184.wav",
        "text": "第84案第85案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1185.wav",
        "text": "我們可以一併來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1186.wav",
        "text": "83案減列5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1187.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1188.wav",
        "text": "台電有沒有需要補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1189.wav",
        "text": "第85案減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1190.wav",
        "text": "請問各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1191.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部有沒有意見要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1192.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見台電這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1193.wav",
        "text": "要不要表達一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1194.wav",
        "text": "主席就我的理解這跟上面的那個不是一樣的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1195.wav",
        "text": "只是編在不同項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1196.wav",
        "text": "可是是同樣一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1197.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1198.wav",
        "text": "到底是到第幾頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1199.wav",
        "text": "其實到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1200.wav",
        "text": "案是不是都是同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1201.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有請他們說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1202.wav",
        "text": "不是編不一樣的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1203.wav",
        "text": "但指的卻是同樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1204.wav",
        "text": "因為預算整理的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1205.wav",
        "text": "我們可以拿一個附表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1206.wav",
        "text": "給各位委員參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1207.wav",
        "text": "我們有把樹枝狀的圖全部做出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1208.wav",
        "text": "有一點點列序不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1209.wav",
        "text": "不過報告各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1210.wav",
        "text": "對於這同一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1211.wav",
        "text": "我們可以同意減列5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1212.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1213.wav",
        "text": "台電同意減列5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1214.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1215.wav",
        "text": "的話減列5,000萬通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1216.wav",
        "text": "\n我們進入第86案已改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1217.wav",
        "text": "我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1218.wav",
        "text": "案第87案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1219.wav",
        "text": "第88案減列5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1220.wav",
        "text": "第89案減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1221.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有什麼意見要表達一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1222.wav",
        "text": "要說明一下都是同一個專業服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1223.wav",
        "text": "請台電曾董事長說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1224.wav",
        "text": "是的都是同樣一個專業服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1225.wav",
        "text": "那我支持民眾黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1226.wav",
        "text": "支持台灣民眾黨的提案減列100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1227.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有其他寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1228.wav",
        "text": "請問一下現在你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1229.wav",
        "text": "八億3004百多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1230.wav",
        "text": "你們現在執行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1231.wav",
        "text": "金額是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1232.wav",
        "text": "到10月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1233.wav",
        "text": "為止目前執行的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1234.wav",
        "text": "確實不是很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1235.wav",
        "text": "因為那個就是需量反應付費的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1236.wav",
        "text": "因為大院委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1237.wav",
        "text": "要撙節支出我們今年也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1238.wav",
        "text": "做到一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1239.wav",
        "text": "撙節支出的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1240.wav",
        "text": "但是這個事情會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1241.wav",
        "text": "隨著整個用電需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1242.wav",
        "text": "的波動而有不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1243.wav",
        "text": "執行狀況出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1244.wav",
        "text": "我們今年編的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1245.wav",
        "text": "8.35億但是實際執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1246.wav",
        "text": "如果減列其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1247.wav",
        "text": "這個部分因為它是營業型的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1248.wav",
        "text": "而不是公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1249.wav",
        "text": "所以坦白講它是跟著市場在跑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1250.wav",
        "text": "不會是一個非常明確的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1251.wav",
        "text": "要減100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1252.wav",
        "text": "對我們來講影響都是同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1253.wav",
        "text": "因為賴士葆委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1254.wav",
        "text": "的提案是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1255.wav",
        "text": "我們今年執行不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1256.wav",
        "text": "拜託一下我們節省時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1257.wav",
        "text": "請有問必答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1258.wav",
        "text": "執行數到10月底到底是多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1259.wav",
        "text": "2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1260.wav",
        "text": "一口同意就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1261.wav",
        "text": "反正你今年絕對用不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1262.wav",
        "text": "嘛不就解決了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1263.wav",
        "text": "因為經濟部長在他必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1264.wav",
        "text": "表情上有點困難的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1265.wav",
        "text": "嘛人同此心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1266.wav",
        "text": "兩案併案我們就減列5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1267.wav",
        "text": "元他們現在才執行兩億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1268.wav",
        "text": "總共編了八億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1269.wav",
        "text": "好沒有意見我們就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1270.wav",
        "text": "\n現在進入第90案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1271.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1272.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1273.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1274.wav",
        "text": "有沒有什麼寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1275.wav",
        "text": "支持民眾黨提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1276.wav",
        "text": "請董事長解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1277.wav",
        "text": "麻煩再請曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1278.wav",
        "text": "我們今年的狀況執行的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1279.wav",
        "text": "大概是4到5億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1280.wav",
        "text": "所以如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1281.wav",
        "text": "現在可以執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1282.wav",
        "text": "才四五億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1283.wav",
        "text": "才執行5億列了九億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1284.wav",
        "text": "元各位黨團幹部好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1285.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1286.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來第93案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1287.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第95案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1288.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1289.wav",
        "text": "\n第96案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1290.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過\n第97案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1291.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1292.wav",
        "text": "第98案主決議有文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1293.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1294.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見好謝謝\n第99案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1295.wav",
        "text": "主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1296.wav",
        "text": "第101案文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1297.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1298.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒有第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1299.wav",
        "text": "102案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1300.wav",
        "text": "主席可不可以提出一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1301.wav",
        "text": "請一個人來唸好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1302.wav",
        "text": "我越唸聲音越小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1303.wav",
        "text": "中氣有點不夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1304.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1305.wav",
        "text": "105案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1306.wav",
        "text": "報告院長第105案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1307.wav",
        "text": "我們有跟黃健豪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1308.wav",
        "text": "討論過但他有一個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1309.wav",
        "text": "上面會造成歧義想要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1310.wav",
        "text": "在這邊跟委員報告確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1311.wav",
        "text": "台電公司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1312.wav",
        "text": "意思是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1313.wav",
        "text": "未來臺中火力發電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1314.wav",
        "text": "興建一座燃氣機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1315.wav",
        "text": "要拆兩座燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1316.wav",
        "text": "我們會承諾要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1317.wav",
        "text": "報告給大院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1318.wav",
        "text": "但是我沒有辦法透過這種主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1319.wav",
        "text": "直接承諾說就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1320.wav",
        "text": "建一拆二這個層次差很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1321.wav",
        "text": "所以這個文字的內涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1322.wav",
        "text": "我們希望確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1323.wav",
        "text": "我們是要交報告而不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1324.wav",
        "text": "承諾要拆機組我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1325.wav",
        "text": "這一點文字上一定要說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1326.wav",
        "text": "我怕文字上有歧義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1327.wav",
        "text": "OK曾董事長的意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1328.wav",
        "text": "把承諾兩個字改為檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1329.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1330.wav",
        "text": "因為透過這個主決議要拆機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1331.wav",
        "text": "這個真的不太可能這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1332.wav",
        "text": "我想請問一下董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1333.wav",
        "text": "你們這個文字修正之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1334.wav",
        "text": "有跟健豪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1335.wav",
        "text": "溝通過嗎我們的同仁去溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1336.wav",
        "text": "我們的同仁來告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1337.wav",
        "text": "我們是要承諾寫報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1338.wav",
        "text": "但我看了文字以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1339.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這裡面會有一個歧義就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1340.wav",
        "text": "承諾要拆機組的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1341.wav",
        "text": "這個差很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1342.wav",
        "text": "那我們就先保留好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1343.wav",
        "text": "因為顯然健豪委員並沒有同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1344.wav",
        "text": "第105案保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1345.wav",
        "text": "\n第106案主決議文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1346.wav",
        "text": "我們通過\n第107案文字修正主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1347.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒意見通過\n第108"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1348.wav",
        "text": "案主決議有沒有意見沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1349.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第109案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1350.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1351.wav",
        "text": "\n第110案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1352.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有意見通過謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1353.wav",
        "text": "\n第111案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1354.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1355.wav",
        "text": "報告院長可不可以跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1356.wav",
        "text": "案我們會遵照辦理第111案跟第113"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1357.wav",
        "text": "案一個月真的有點困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1358.wav",
        "text": "可不可以給我們三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1359.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1360.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召欣然接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1361.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們就修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1362.wav",
        "text": "進到第114案主決議大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1363.wav",
        "text": "案文字修正主決議大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1364.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1365.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過\n第116案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1366.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1367.wav",
        "text": "\n第117案文字修正的主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1368.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1369.wav",
        "text": "謝謝通過\n第119案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1370.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1371.wav",
        "text": "\n第120案文字修正主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1372.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1373.wav",
        "text": "\n第121案文字修正主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1374.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1375.wav",
        "text": "\n跟各位報告一下台電的第62案第68案第74案第105"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1376.wav",
        "text": "接下來請自來水公司\n休息3分鐘謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1377.wav",
        "text": "第126案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1378.wav",
        "text": "128案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1379.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第132案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1380.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第133案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1381.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第134案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1382.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第135案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1383.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第136案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1384.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第137案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1385.wav",
        "text": "\n第138案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1386.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第139案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1387.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第140案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1388.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第141案減列4億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1389.wav",
        "text": "請李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1390.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1391.wav",
        "text": "遵照委員減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1392.wav",
        "text": "減列的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1393.wav",
        "text": "都已經溝通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1394.wav",
        "text": "了好大家都已經達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1395.wav",
        "text": "\n進入第142案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1396.wav",
        "text": "謝謝自來水公司李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1397.wav",
        "text": "微笑一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1398.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們換組一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1399.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1400.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1401.wav",
        "text": "列席的行政首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1402.wav",
        "text": "首先歡迎中央銀行楊總裁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1403.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1404.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1405.wav",
        "text": "臺灣金控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1406.wav",
        "text": "歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1407.wav",
        "text": "其他所有銀行金融界的太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1408.wav",
        "text": "一口氣站起來我們鼓掌一下好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1409.wav",
        "text": "歡迎歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1410.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1411.wav",
        "text": "\n現在進入中央銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1412.wav",
        "text": "撤案各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1413.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1414.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見好\n第2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1415.wav",
        "text": "第11案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1416.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1417.wav",
        "text": "中央銀行保持微笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1418.wav",
        "text": "請離開謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1419.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1420.wav",
        "text": "臺灣銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1421.wav",
        "text": "第15案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1422.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1423.wav",
        "text": "\n沒有意見通過\n第16案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1424.wav",
        "text": "改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1425.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第17案撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1426.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1427.wav",
        "text": "謝謝臺灣銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1428.wav",
        "text": "祝大家聖誕節快樂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1429.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是臺銀人壽保險公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1430.wav",
        "text": "第20案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1431.wav",
        "text": "各位沒有意見沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1432.wav",
        "text": "謝謝微笑離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1433.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1434.wav",
        "text": "是臺銀綜合證券股份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1435.wav",
        "text": "有限公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1436.wav",
        "text": "列席代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1437.wav",
        "text": "許董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1438.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎您請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1439.wav",
        "text": "\n第21案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1440.wav",
        "text": "改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1441.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒意見通過謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1442.wav",
        "text": "\n第22案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1443.wav",
        "text": "沒意見改主決議通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1444.wav",
        "text": "\n第23案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1445.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見非常好通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1446.wav",
        "text": "謝謝微笑離開謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1447.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1448.wav",
        "text": "是臺灣土地銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1449.wav",
        "text": "何董事長歡迎您請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1450.wav",
        "text": "\n第24案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1451.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1452.wav",
        "text": "凍結100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1453.wav",
        "text": "然後文字修正請問各位黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1454.wav",
        "text": "詢問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1455.wav",
        "text": "請賴委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1456.wav",
        "text": "對我們召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1457.wav",
        "text": "主席針對第25案是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1458.wav",
        "text": "提書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1459.wav",
        "text": "不要凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1460.wav",
        "text": "請問國民黨黨團有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1461.wav",
        "text": "請王鴻薇發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1462.wav",
        "text": "董事長請表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1463.wav",
        "text": "這個科目最主要是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1464.wav",
        "text": "資以目前來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1465.wav",
        "text": "執行率大概百分之八十一點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1466.wav",
        "text": "委員原來的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1467.wav",
        "text": "是凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1468.wav",
        "text": "然後1個月內提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1469.wav",
        "text": "書面報告其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1470.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1471.wav",
        "text": "好那就OK通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1472.wav",
        "text": "那我們就照賴委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1473.wav",
        "text": "好文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1474.wav",
        "text": "因為他在委員會已經是減了100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1475.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1476.wav",
        "text": "我們就書面報告好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1477.wav",
        "text": "沒有就是凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1478.wav",
        "text": "書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1479.wav",
        "text": "凍結100萬提書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1480.wav",
        "text": "其餘就提書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1481.wav",
        "text": "OK好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1482.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1483.wav",
        "text": "第26案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1484.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1485.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見就照案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1486.wav",
        "text": "\n第27案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1487.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1488.wav",
        "text": "\n第28案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1489.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1490.wav",
        "text": "謝謝請臺灣土地銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1491.wav",
        "text": "何董事長微笑離開謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1492.wav",
        "text": "\n再下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1493.wav",
        "text": "我們歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1494.wav",
        "text": "戴理事主席謝謝請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1495.wav",
        "text": "第30案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1496.wav",
        "text": "請問各位有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1497.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1498.wav",
        "text": "\n謝謝輸出入銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1499.wav",
        "text": "請微笑離開椅子都還沒坐熱請離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1500.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是臺灣菸酒公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1501.wav",
        "text": "湯董事長請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1502.wav",
        "text": "\n第31案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1503.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1504.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1505.wav",
        "text": "第42案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1506.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1507.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1508.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第44案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1509.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1510.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1511.wav",
        "text": "我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1512.wav",
        "text": "\n第46案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1513.wav",
        "text": "第48案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1514.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第49案沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1515.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第50案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1516.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1517.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第52案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1518.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1519.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1520.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第54"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1521.wav",
        "text": "第54案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1522.wav",
        "text": "請微笑離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1523.wav",
        "text": "王廠長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1524.wav",
        "text": "請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1525.wav",
        "text": "是財政部印刷廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1526.wav",
        "text": "對不起請讓主席喝口茶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1527.wav",
        "text": "\n我們第57案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1528.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1529.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1530.wav",
        "text": "\n第63案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1531.wav",
        "text": "我們改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1532.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1533.wav",
        "text": "我們改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1534.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1535.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1536.wav",
        "text": "第62案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1537.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1538.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算的協商順序為通案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1539.wav",
        "text": "再到營業再到非營業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1540.wav",
        "text": "基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1541.wav",
        "text": "但財政部莊部長今天也親自來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1542.wav",
        "text": "現在只有1件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1543.wav",
        "text": "就是中央政府債務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1544.wav",
        "text": "基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1545.wav",
        "text": "只有這一案請問各黨團幹部是不是容許我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1546.wav",
        "text": "來先審查一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1547.wav",
        "text": "\n中央政府債務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1548.wav",
        "text": "已經改為主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1549.wav",
        "text": "請大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1550.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1551.wav",
        "text": "\n請大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1552.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1553.wav",
        "text": "已經改為主決議了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1554.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1555.wav",
        "text": "我們請金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1556.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎我們金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1557.wav",
        "text": "金管會的彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1558.wav",
        "text": "請坐金管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1559.wav",
        "text": "存款保險股份有限公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1560.wav",
        "text": "黃董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1561.wav",
        "text": "也來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1562.wav",
        "text": "\n第68案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1563.wav",
        "text": "已經改為主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1564.wav",
        "text": "請問各黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1565.wav",
        "text": "各位有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1566.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1567.wav",
        "text": "\n第70案主決議各位有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1568.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1569.wav",
        "text": "\n彭主委微笑離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1570.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1571.wav",
        "text": "首先熱情歡迎交通部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1572.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎您請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1573.wav",
        "text": "其他所有交通部列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1574.wav",
        "text": "請跟大家擺手一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1575.wav",
        "text": "\n我們接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1576.wav",
        "text": "首先請中華郵政王董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1577.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1578.wav",
        "text": "\n中華郵政第1案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1579.wav",
        "text": "改增列300萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1580.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1581.wav",
        "text": "有沒有任何寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1582.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1583.wav",
        "text": "\n第2案改增列300萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1584.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1585.wav",
        "text": "\n第3案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1586.wav",
        "text": "\n第6案改減列500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1587.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1588.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1589.wav",
        "text": "\n第7案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1590.wav",
        "text": "通過謝謝\n第8案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1591.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1592.wav",
        "text": "沒有謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1593.wav",
        "text": "9案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1594.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1595.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1596.wav",
        "text": "請杜董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1597.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1598.wav",
        "text": "\n針對臺灣鐵路公司第20案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1599.wav",
        "text": "改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1600.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過\n第21案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1601.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見通過\n第22案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1602.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1603.wav",
        "text": "\n第23案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1604.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第24案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1605.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第25案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1606.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第26案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1607.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第27案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1608.wav",
        "text": "減列200萬元請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1609.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1610.wav",
        "text": "\n第28案改主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1611.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第31案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1612.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第32案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1613.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第33案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1614.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1615.wav",
        "text": "\n第34案改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1616.wav",
        "text": "第36案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1617.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第37案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1618.wav",
        "text": "報告主席第43案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1619.wav",
        "text": "總召這邊能不能幫我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1620.wav",
        "text": "改成書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1621.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1622.wav",
        "text": "好黃總召欣然接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1623.wav",
        "text": "我們就改為書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1624.wav",
        "text": "第44案一樣是不是能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1625.wav",
        "text": "幫我們改成書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1626.wav",
        "text": "好那遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1627.wav",
        "text": "就請臺灣鐵路公司遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1628.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們主決議通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1629.wav",
        "text": "\n第45案有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1630.wav",
        "text": "主決議通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1631.wav",
        "text": "\n第46案有文字修正主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1632.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1633.wav",
        "text": "我們熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1634.wav",
        "text": "臺灣港務公司李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1635.wav",
        "text": "請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1636.wav",
        "text": "\n第47案港灣收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1637.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第48案撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1638.wav",
        "text": "\n第49案減列500萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1639.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1640.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第50案主決議大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1641.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第51案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1642.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1643.wav",
        "text": "凍結2,000萬元各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1644.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1645.wav",
        "text": "臺灣港務公司李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1646.wav",
        "text": "我們的行銷獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1647.wav",
        "text": "就是貨櫃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1648.wav",
        "text": "五億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1649.wav",
        "text": "目前還可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1650.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝港務公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1651.wav",
        "text": "接受各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1652.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1653.wav",
        "text": "\n第54案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1654.wav",
        "text": "改主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1655.wav",
        "text": "凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1656.wav",
        "text": "這個最主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1657.wav",
        "text": "我們辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1658.wav",
        "text": "業務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1659.wav",
        "text": "剛好有一個東方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1660.wav",
        "text": "113年9月我們在續約前有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1661.wav",
        "text": "投審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1662.wav",
        "text": "司來看一看有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1663.wav",
        "text": "符合相關法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1664.wav",
        "text": "法律意見認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1665.wav",
        "text": "符合法律所以就繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1666.wav",
        "text": "辦理續約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1667.wav",
        "text": "總召有提出一些不同的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1668.wav",
        "text": "調查單位在調查當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1669.wav",
        "text": "我們就是依法來配合辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1670.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1671.wav",
        "text": "跟院長還有各黨團報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1672.wav",
        "text": "這件事情非常的嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1673.wav",
        "text": "因為事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1674.wav",
        "text": "我們的高雄港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1675.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1676.wav",
        "text": "有紅色資本介入的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1677.wav",
        "text": "我從2018年第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1678.wav",
        "text": "在立法院的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1679.wav",
        "text": "就已經提出質詢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1680.wav",
        "text": "那個時候你們所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1681.wav",
        "text": "回應是一切合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1682.wav",
        "text": "謝謝指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1683.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1684.wav",
        "text": "等到2021年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1685.wav",
        "text": "特別是高雄港正遭受入侵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1686.wav",
        "text": "\n2022年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1687.wav",
        "text": "法國週刊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1688.wav",
        "text": "封面報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1689.wav",
        "text": "那個時候我人已經不在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1690.wav",
        "text": "了但是我有把相關的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1691.wav",
        "text": "給上一屆的國會議員參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1692.wav",
        "text": "質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1693.wav",
        "text": "那個時候你們才說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1694.wav",
        "text": "到今年9月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1695.wav",
        "text": "不會再租出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1696.wav",
        "text": "跟上一屆國會講到今年9月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1697.wav",
        "text": "不會再租出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1698.wav",
        "text": "了結果我今年回到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1699.wav",
        "text": "你們還是再租出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1700.wav",
        "text": "啊你們說換了一家公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1701.wav",
        "text": "馬換一個招牌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1702.wav",
        "text": "臺北的人不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1703.wav",
        "text": "在高雄碼頭的人會不知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1704.wav",
        "text": "所以我才在交通委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1705.wav",
        "text": "再提出質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1706.wav",
        "text": "經濟部的官員回去轉告你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1707.wav",
        "text": "這件事情很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1708.wav",
        "text": "你們現在還在持續調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1709.wav",
        "text": "所以我的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1710.wav",
        "text": "其實也沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1711.wav",
        "text": "很過火"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1712.wav",
        "text": "先凍十分之一而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1713.wav",
        "text": "請你來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1714.wav",
        "text": "報告同意了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1715.wav",
        "text": "再來動支"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1716.wav",
        "text": "對你們的營運也不會造成什麼影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1717.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛那句話我沒聽清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1718.wav",
        "text": "好那這邊就結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1719.wav",
        "text": "我們就凍結十分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1720.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1721.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1722.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部我們現在審到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1723.wav",
        "text": "桃園國際機場公司第62案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1724.wav",
        "text": "改增列5億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1725.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1726.wav",
        "text": "增列5億幅度有點大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1727.wav",
        "text": "說明一下做得到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1728.wav",
        "text": "做得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1729.wav",
        "text": "他們全力以赴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1730.wav",
        "text": "\n還有沒有其他寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1731.wav",
        "text": "沒意見我們就通過\n第63案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1732.wav",
        "text": "增列3億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1733.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1734.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1735.wav",
        "text": "好董事長同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1736.wav",
        "text": "謝謝第63案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1737.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1738.wav",
        "text": "及楊董事長有沒有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1739.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1740.wav",
        "text": "）及書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1741.wav",
        "text": "請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1742.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1743.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1744.wav",
        "text": "\n第70案改書面報告凍結50萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1745.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1746.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1747.wav",
        "text": "第69案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1748.wav",
        "text": "撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1749.wav",
        "text": "大家有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1750.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1751.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1752.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1753.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1754.wav",
        "text": "我們就凍結2,000萬元書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1755.wav",
        "text": "通過\n第75案凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1756.wav",
        "text": "二十分之一即5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1757.wav",
        "text": "這一案請說明好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1758.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1759.wav",
        "text": "專案改成書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1760.wav",
        "text": "請求召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1761.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請問有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1762.wav",
        "text": "這個案子不能只提書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1763.wav",
        "text": "啦這個案子的事情都沒解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1764.wav",
        "text": "部長也在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1765.wav",
        "text": "我質詢兩次以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1766.wav",
        "text": "了我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1767.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣要發展所謂自駕系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1768.wav",
        "text": "我們是百分之百支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1769.wav",
        "text": "但很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1770.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣在發展自駕車系統的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1771.wav",
        "text": "怎麼政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1772.wav",
        "text": "大的標案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1773.wav",
        "text": "還是那種要經過評選的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1774.wav",
        "text": "全部給一個詐騙集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1775.wav",
        "text": "我已經公開地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1776.wav",
        "text": "他們是詐騙集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1777.wav",
        "text": "他們到現在一句話都不敢反駁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1778.wav",
        "text": "他們說什麼在美國有自駕車的系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1779.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1780.wav",
        "text": "我跟美國那邊求證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1781.wav",
        "text": "根本沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1782.wav",
        "text": "然後臺灣還頒獎給它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1783.wav",
        "text": "行控4.0"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1784.wav",
        "text": "花了好幾千萬給它做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1785.wav",
        "text": "做完了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1786.wav",
        "text": "按照我們運安會的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1787.wav",
        "text": "是根本不能用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1788.wav",
        "text": "奇怪我們國家錢很多耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1789.wav",
        "text": "怎麼這些特殊的標案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1790.wav",
        "text": "都幾千萬幾千萬幾千萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1791.wav",
        "text": "給一個莫名其妙的廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1792.wav",
        "text": "背後的政商集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1793.wav",
        "text": "政商關係是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1794.wav",
        "text": "我相信我不用在這邊講得很白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1795.wav",
        "text": "現在在微笑的部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1796.wav",
        "text": "應該都相當清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1797.wav",
        "text": "現在這不是開玩笑的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1798.wav",
        "text": "T3航廈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1799.wav",
        "text": "T2到T3的運輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1800.wav",
        "text": "還給這家廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1801.wav",
        "text": "繼續包現在僵住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1802.wav",
        "text": "了它做不出來嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1803.wav",
        "text": "這個到底是怎麼回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1804.wav",
        "text": "這不是用書面報告就可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1805.wav",
        "text": "一定要請他們來進行專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1806.wav",
        "text": "第75案凍結5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1807.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1808.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1809.wav",
        "text": "好第75案就凍結5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1810.wav",
        "text": "剩下的提專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1811.wav",
        "text": "\n第76案凍結1,000萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1812.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1813.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1814.wav",
        "text": "第77案主決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1815.wav",
        "text": "沒意見通過\n第78案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1816.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見通過\n第80案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1817.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1818.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見通過\n第82案主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1819.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1820.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1821.wav",
        "text": "謝謝董事長微笑離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1822.wav",
        "text": "謝謝交通部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1823.wav",
        "text": "主計長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1824.wav",
        "text": "\n跟各位黨團幹部報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1825.wav",
        "text": "通案及營業部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1826.wav",
        "text": "現在已經過了300案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1827.wav",
        "text": "我們從下午3點處理到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1828.wav",
        "text": "目前保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1829.wav",
        "text": "有台糖2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1830.wav",
        "text": "中油2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1831.wav",
        "text": "台電4案共8案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1832.wav",
        "text": "剩下非營業部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1833.wav",
        "text": "總共482案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1834.wav",
        "text": "因為明天我們下午2點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1835.wav",
        "text": "要繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1836.wav",
        "text": "是不是今天就到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1837.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1838.wav",
        "text": "\n如果沒有問題我們就明天下午2點半繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1839.wav",
        "text": "另外還有幫各位所提供的便當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1840.wav",
        "text": "請各位帶回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1841.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家我們明天下午2點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16315/1842.wav",
        "text": "繼續開會現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/0.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍副書記長也到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1.wav",
        "text": "非常歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2.wav",
        "text": "我們就邊開會邊等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/3.wav",
        "text": "時間一到我們就不再等了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/4.wav",
        "text": "\n今天我們主要有三個議題要跟各位黨團幹部一起協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/5.wav",
        "text": "首先我們先來協商上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/6.wav",
        "text": "有幾個黨鞭說到延會的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/7.wav",
        "text": "所以今天這是比較著急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/8.wav",
        "text": "甚至包括一些委員在休會期間要拜訪選民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/9.wav",
        "text": "有一些等等的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/10.wav",
        "text": "也都變得很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/11.wav",
        "text": "所以想請教一下三黨的各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/12.wav",
        "text": "大家認為我們這次延會要延一個星期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/13.wav",
        "text": "兩個星期三個星期等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/14.wav",
        "text": "就請各位黨團幹部來表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/15.wav",
        "text": "首先哪一位黨團先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/16.wav",
        "text": "好請吳思瑤幹事長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/17.wav",
        "text": "林思銘書記長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/18.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/19.wav",
        "text": "有關於延會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/20.wav",
        "text": "第一個我想勢必應當要延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/21.wav",
        "text": "因為總預算的延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/22.wav",
        "text": "我們現在來趕進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/23.wav",
        "text": "需要在法定的期程完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/24.wav",
        "text": "但恐怕也困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/25.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在是在補課補進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/26.wav",
        "text": "有四個人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/27.wav",
        "text": "四個預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/28.wav",
        "text": "還有相關的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/29.wav",
        "text": "所以民進黨團的立場是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/30.wav",
        "text": "當然上週我們協商好像已經講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/31.wav",
        "text": "1月24號的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/32.wav",
        "text": "只要是有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/33.wav",
        "text": "我們把會議的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/34.wav",
        "text": "讓所有的議案都能夠完成審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/35.wav",
        "text": "那1月24號當然也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/36.wav",
        "text": "主要就是看案子啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/37.wav",
        "text": "如果情非得已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/38.wav",
        "text": "就是議案太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/39.wav",
        "text": "或者是延宕沒審的議案就是那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/40.wav",
        "text": "那恐怕到這一天也是不得不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/41.wav",
        "text": "我們必須在這個會期完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/42.wav",
        "text": "這個會期立法院職責該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/43.wav",
        "text": "當然也要看議事人員算一算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/44.wav",
        "text": "我們審查的會議時間剩多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/45.wav",
        "text": "一定要到最後一天1月24"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/46.wav",
        "text": "日那我們當然就也願意來配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/47.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/48.wav",
        "text": "接下來請林思銘書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/49.wav",
        "text": "我想很高興聽到吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/50.wav",
        "text": "對於延會到1月24號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/51.wav",
        "text": "我想多留一些時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/52.wav",
        "text": "讓我們充分對於總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/53.wav",
        "text": "總是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/54.wav",
        "text": "還有很多議案沒有結束的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/55.wav",
        "text": "我想到過年大家很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/56.wav",
        "text": "如果說總預算能夠順利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/57.wav",
        "text": "我們現在預留這麼長的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/58.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以提早結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/59.wav",
        "text": "以目前來看是最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/60.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘書記長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/61.wav",
        "text": "接下來請吳春城副總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/62.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨也同意可以延長到24號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/63.wav",
        "text": "如果有必要的話到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/64.wav",
        "text": "21號或者24號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/65.wav",
        "text": "可能要到最後一週"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/66.wav",
        "text": "啦最後一週2124"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/67.wav",
        "text": "要提早應該是沒有意見的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/68.wav",
        "text": "\n以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/69.wav",
        "text": "三個黨團現在難得罕見意見立場一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/70.wav",
        "text": "我們就休息3分鐘來溝通一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/71.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/72.wav",
        "text": "請教各位黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/73.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/74.wav",
        "text": "我們延會到1月21號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/75.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/76.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/77.wav",
        "text": "好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/78.wav",
        "text": "我們現在來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/79.wav",
        "text": "草擬剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/80.wav",
        "text": "大家所協商的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/81.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/82.wav",
        "text": "請稍待一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/83.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/84.wav",
        "text": "現在我們再一次重申決定事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/85.wav",
        "text": "本（第2會期）延會至114年1月21日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/86.wav",
        "text": "現在簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/87.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/88.wav",
        "text": "我想因為大家都同時還有在委員會審查預算的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/89.wav",
        "text": "所以密集協商是不是就排下午的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/90.wav",
        "text": "因為週二的院會是考試院正副院長的詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/91.wav",
        "text": "答也許大家可以有詢答的去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/92.wav",
        "text": "沒有的就空出時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/93.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五也是詢答考委嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/94.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五的下午二五的下午我們應該都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/95.wav",
        "text": "禮拜四的下午應當也是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/96.wav",
        "text": "二四五的下午應當都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/97.wav",
        "text": "看看大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/98.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長的意思是說2325跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/99.wav",
        "text": "報告院長但是要審酌院長可能要在院會主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/100.wav",
        "text": "那再請教一下林思銘書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/101.wav",
        "text": "謝謝報告院長因為我們26號有行程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/102.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望在27開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/103.wav",
        "text": "下個星期三星期四星期五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/104.wav",
        "text": "如果可以的話我們從早上就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/105.wav",
        "text": "是民國113年的那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/106.wav",
        "text": "那如果一四五呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/107.wav",
        "text": "林思銘書記長的意思就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/108.wav",
        "text": "11月26號（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/109.wav",
        "text": "）11月28號（星期四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/110.wav",
        "text": "）11月29號（星期五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/111.wav",
        "text": "這是林思銘書記長的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/112.wav",
        "text": "好黃國昌總召也到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/113.wav",
        "text": "現在我們確定要密集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/114.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/115.wav",
        "text": "部分也特別跟黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/116.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨團幹部報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/117.wav",
        "text": "現在民進黨所提的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/118.wav",
        "text": "但林思銘書記長提的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/119.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團有沒有什麼寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/120.wav",
        "text": "針對下星期的密集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/121.wav",
        "text": "院長請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/122.wav",
        "text": "不管是27號還是28號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/123.wav",
        "text": "因為院長在忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/124.wav",
        "text": "所以我先讓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/125.wav",
        "text": "我們現在時間對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/126.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我請教一下院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/127.wav",
        "text": "所謂的密集協商指的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/128.wav",
        "text": "從下午開始還是從上午開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/129.wav",
        "text": "下午開始嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/130.wav",
        "text": "所以下午開始就比較不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/131.wav",
        "text": "影響到我們早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/132.wav",
        "text": "在各個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/133.wav",
        "text": "我這邊方便的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/134.wav",
        "text": "我們需要排幾天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/135.wav",
        "text": "三天最少三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/136.wav",
        "text": "可是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/137.wav",
        "text": "26號可能會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/138.wav",
        "text": "比較麻煩一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/139.wav",
        "text": "29的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/140.wav",
        "text": "跟我們現在看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/141.wav",
        "text": "時程比較不會有衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/142.wav",
        "text": "啦因為黨團有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/143.wav",
        "text": "其他已經發出開會通知的公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/144.wav",
        "text": "要取消改期要通知這麼多人那麼多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/145.wav",
        "text": "要全部重新搞一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/146.wav",
        "text": "這樣子不好意思啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/147.wav",
        "text": "也就是說台灣民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/148.wav",
        "text": "也是希望272829"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/149.wav",
        "text": "請問吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/150.wav",
        "text": "事長有沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/151.wav",
        "text": "我想2829大家都OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/152.wav",
        "text": "7大家商量看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/153.wav",
        "text": "那如果25呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/154.wav",
        "text": "大家喬看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/155.wav",
        "text": "先請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/156.wav",
        "text": "我們會到幾點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/157.wav",
        "text": "因為我不知道所謂的密集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/158.wav",
        "text": "是下午開始就一路到晚上12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/159.wav",
        "text": "還是會到6點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/160.wav",
        "text": "因為這會影響到大家工作的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/161.wav",
        "text": "密集協商一旦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/162.wav",
        "text": "開始就是有可能直接從下午3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/163.wav",
        "text": "那這樣的話對不起25號沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/164.wav",
        "text": "還是25號就是先下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/165.wav",
        "text": "開始比如說2點到6點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/166.wav",
        "text": "然後28號29號再看狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/167.wav",
        "text": "而且一定是最後一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/168.wav",
        "text": "才再拉長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/169.wav",
        "text": "幹事長我請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/170.wav",
        "text": "譬如說可以3點再開始嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/171.wav",
        "text": "好啊好啊如果是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/172.wav",
        "text": "我本來想說是1點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/173.wav",
        "text": "好再一次跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/174.wav",
        "text": "\n請傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/175.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/176.wav",
        "text": "剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/177.wav",
        "text": "很抱歉因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/178.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團還有會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/179.wav",
        "text": "就是1月21號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/180.wav",
        "text": "是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/181.wav",
        "text": "延會的最後一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/182.wav",
        "text": "國民黨會簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/183.wav",
        "text": "因為聽說是院長裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/184.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/185.wav",
        "text": "我們總是希望能開到24號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/186.wav",
        "text": "有一些工作上時程的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/187.wav",
        "text": "院會結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/188.wav",
        "text": "\n對於協商的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/189.wav",
        "text": "我覺得黨團幹部有黨團幹部的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/190.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商為什麼一定要下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/191.wav",
        "text": "開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/192.wav",
        "text": "早上其實就應該要開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/193.wav",
        "text": "除了院長裁示以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/194.wav",
        "text": "因為接下來還有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/195.wav",
        "text": "預算案的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/196.wav",
        "text": "包括各黨團委員所提出來的這些預算案的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/197.wav",
        "text": "都會曠日廢時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/198.wav",
        "text": "大家要投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/199.wav",
        "text": "更多的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/200.wav",
        "text": "所以朝野協商從早上9點就可以開始討論了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/201.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一定要下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/202.wav",
        "text": "專注力也更高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/203.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/204.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/205.wav",
        "text": "反正各黨就3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/206.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/207.wav",
        "text": "當然你還要再去各委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/208.wav",
        "text": "我想還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/209.wav",
        "text": "以整個黨團的工作為主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/210.wav",
        "text": "因為我們各黨團也要對院方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/211.wav",
        "text": "所以應該是黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/212.wav",
        "text": "做黨團幹部的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/213.wav",
        "text": "各委員會去做各委員會該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/214.wav",
        "text": "我們早上9點就可以開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/215.wav",
        "text": "本來一天可以結束的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/216.wav",
        "text": "不需要拉到兩三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/217.wav",
        "text": "兩天可以結束的不需要拉到三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/218.wav",
        "text": "嘛我想這樣的話是不是供大家做一個參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/219.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/220.wav",
        "text": "好現在跟各黨幹部報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/221.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/222.wav",
        "text": "那我想請高處長解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/223.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/224.wav",
        "text": "過去在預算案密集協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/225.wav",
        "text": "相對應的那個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/226.wav",
        "text": "目前早上都在開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/227.wav",
        "text": "以上給大家補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/228.wav",
        "text": "因為現在各委員會還在開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/229.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就選下午時間來密集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/230.wav",
        "text": "如果爾後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/231.wav",
        "text": "有其他的議案預算案等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/232.wav",
        "text": "大家早上時間都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/233.wav",
        "text": "我們當然可以早上9點開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/234.wav",
        "text": "這個絕對沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/235.wav",
        "text": "我相信這個大家都有默契好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/236.wav",
        "text": "\n至於為什麼21號截止而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/237.wav",
        "text": "不是24號是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/238.wav",
        "text": "所有的預算案審查完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/239.wav",
        "text": "院本部還要有時間來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/240.wav",
        "text": "整個機器都要動起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/241.wav",
        "text": "要審查後續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/242.wav",
        "text": "所有的一些事情需要給他們一點點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/243.wav",
        "text": "在這邊也一併跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/244.wav",
        "text": "那就確定我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/245.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/246.wav",
        "text": "來確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/247.wav",
        "text": "因為這個事情是很嚴肅的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/248.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/249.wav",
        "text": "尤其在預算年度的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/250.wav",
        "text": "真的是千絲萬縷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/251.wav",
        "text": "有好多好多各種委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/252.wav",
        "text": "各種選區都不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/253.wav",
        "text": "都會提出很多的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/254.wav",
        "text": "我們都必須在這裡討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/255.wav",
        "text": "是真的要花很多的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/256.wav",
        "text": "至於說早上9點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/257.wav",
        "text": "理所當然就可以開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/258.wav",
        "text": "碰到委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/259.wav",
        "text": "如果當天有開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/260.wav",
        "text": "比方說我們現在要審查交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/261.wav",
        "text": "預算的整體協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/262.wav",
        "text": "一案一案來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/263.wav",
        "text": "如果交通委員會今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/264.wav",
        "text": "要安排部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/265.wav",
        "text": "到交通委員會備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/266.wav",
        "text": "在時間有牴觸的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/267.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以再調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/268.wav",
        "text": "但是時間上還是從早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/269.wav",
        "text": "是比較適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/270.wav",
        "text": "也是一個部會進行完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/271.wav",
        "text": "因為每個委員會都可以排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/272.wav",
        "text": "不只一個部會的詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/273.wav",
        "text": "當朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/274.wav",
        "text": "委員會就可以調整為其他部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/275.wav",
        "text": "以朝野協商為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/276.wav",
        "text": "儘量不要跟委員會衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/277.wav",
        "text": "這應該是可以協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/278.wav",
        "text": "對就是因為首長要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/279.wav",
        "text": "要到朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/280.wav",
        "text": "時備詢我剛剛提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/281.wav",
        "text": "最主要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/282.wav",
        "text": "不要跟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/283.wav",
        "text": "比如交通委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/284.wav",
        "text": "要求交通部長到委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/285.wav",
        "text": "那個時間朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/286.wav",
        "text": "當然可以9點舉行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/287.wav",
        "text": "不要去處理審查交通部預算就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/288.wav",
        "text": "是可以協調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/289.wav",
        "text": "基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/290.wav",
        "text": "我們來協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/291.wav",
        "text": "去協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/292.wav",
        "text": "各黨團內部的召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/293.wav",
        "text": "儘量不要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/294.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/295.wav",
        "text": "因為那畢竟是各位委員所提出來的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/296.wav",
        "text": "我想就請大家思考看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/297.wav",
        "text": "三天下午3點開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/298.wav",
        "text": "大家的時間應當都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/299.wav",
        "text": "就我過去的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/300.wav",
        "text": "間訂在下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/301.wav",
        "text": "是有原因的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/302.wav",
        "text": "首先當然就是讓議事人員方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/303.wav",
        "text": "畢竟現在各個委員會都密集在審預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/304.wav",
        "text": "去協調這也不是不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/305.wav",
        "text": "也要來參與協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/306.wav",
        "text": "所以單純化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/307.wav",
        "text": "這三天就先來試行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/308.wav",
        "text": "大家時間也都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/309.wav",
        "text": "這三天時間沒有已經卡住的對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/310.wav",
        "text": "我們原本就預估三個下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/311.wav",
        "text": "來試看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/312.wav",
        "text": "如果真的再不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/313.wav",
        "text": "後面可以再來增加上午的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/314.wav",
        "text": "我的理解是如果272829"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/315.wav",
        "text": "大家下午都有問題的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/316.wav",
        "text": "才可能需要調到早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/317.wav",
        "text": "既然剛剛三黨三個下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/318.wav",
        "text": "我們就先這樣優先來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/319.wav",
        "text": "就我個人來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/320.wav",
        "text": "我非常重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/321.wav",
        "text": "我想易餘也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/322.wav",
        "text": "我除了是黨鞭的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/323.wav",
        "text": "時我們也是同等關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/324.wav",
        "text": "所以希望能取其平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/325.wav",
        "text": "除非沒有辦法協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/326.wav",
        "text": "但如果時間可控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/327.wav",
        "text": "那麼我希望能兼顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/328.wav",
        "text": "眼前的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/329.wav",
        "text": "即預算審查跟預算協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/330.wav",
        "text": "都能夠兼顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/331.wav",
        "text": "所以請求272829"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/332.wav",
        "text": "29三四五下午3點開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/333.wav",
        "text": "三黨大家時間都OK的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/334.wav",
        "text": "就照這個時間先排看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/335.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/336.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/337.wav",
        "text": "本席剛剛講這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/338.wav",
        "text": "是希望大家一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/339.wav",
        "text": "三天剛剛院長已經提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/340.wav",
        "text": "國民黨也有提出272829三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/341.wav",
        "text": "這三天我們當然可以配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/342.wav",
        "text": "但我不是在講這三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/343.wav",
        "text": "我們不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/344.wav",
        "text": "各政黨會提出多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/345.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/346.wav",
        "text": "效率可以更加提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/347.wav",
        "text": "若可以早上9點開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/348.wav",
        "text": "都可以協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/349.wav",
        "text": "來跟我們溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/350.wav",
        "text": "主要是國民黨跟民進黨去協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/351.wav",
        "text": "自己的召委協調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/352.wav",
        "text": "院會的朝野協商衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/353.wav",
        "text": "主要是這樣子好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/354.wav",
        "text": "非常好傅崐萁總召用心良苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/355.wav",
        "text": "我來嘗試一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/356.wav",
        "text": "做個小結論好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/357.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位的密集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/358.wav",
        "text": "就訂在11月27日下午3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/359.wav",
        "text": "28日29日下午3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/360.wav",
        "text": "連續三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/361.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/362.wav",
        "text": "附屬單位預算之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/363.wav",
        "text": "有的時候也可以從早上9點開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/364.wav",
        "text": "剛剛傅總召所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/365.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是可以採納的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/366.wav",
        "text": "我們早上9點10點開始協商也沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/367.wav",
        "text": "這點跟大家一併報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/368.wav",
        "text": "我們先確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/369.wav",
        "text": "11月27日28日29日下午3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/370.wav",
        "text": "開始附屬單位預算協商好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/371.wav",
        "text": "我們也定下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/372.wav",
        "text": "再來我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/373.wav",
        "text": "我們今天要討論協商的第二案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/374.wav",
        "text": "作成決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/375.wav",
        "text": "司法院法務部的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/376.wav",
        "text": "都已經發言完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/377.wav",
        "text": "各位委員也已經發言完畢請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/378.wav",
        "text": "今天黨團幹部有沒有意見要補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/379.wav",
        "text": "蔡易餘書記長請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/380.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨團建請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/381.wav",
        "text": "它的內容是要成立國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/382.wav",
        "text": "發展基金不當投資暨管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/383.wav",
        "text": "失職調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/384.wav",
        "text": "就特定議案涉及事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/385.wav",
        "text": "調查資料於必要時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/386.wav",
        "text": "依立法院職權行使法第59條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/387.wav",
        "text": "之1舉行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/388.wav",
        "text": "聽證會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/389.wav",
        "text": "國家發展基金不當投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/390.wav",
        "text": "暨管理失職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/391.wav",
        "text": "這個名稱聽起來就覺得它的範圍過大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/392.wav",
        "text": "這個範圍過大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/393.wav",
        "text": "範圍沒有辦法確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/394.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/395.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法第45條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/396.wav",
        "text": "第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/397.wav",
        "text": "規定的很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/398.wav",
        "text": "第45條第3項規定調查委員會之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/399.wav",
        "text": "名稱調查事項目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/400.wav",
        "text": "方法及成員人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/401.wav",
        "text": "由院會議決之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/402.wav",
        "text": "也就是我們在院會議決的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/403.wav",
        "text": "就必須要把調查委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/404.wav",
        "text": "名稱調查事項目的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/405.wav",
        "text": "及成員人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/406.wav",
        "text": "做一個決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/407.wav",
        "text": "這個是在院會議決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/408.wav",
        "text": "也講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/409.wav",
        "text": "方法跟事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/410.wav",
        "text": "它說立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/411.wav",
        "text": "第45條第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/412.wav",
        "text": "院會議決之調查事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/413.wav",
        "text": "（含範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/414.wav",
        "text": "）目的及方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/415.wav",
        "text": "尚須具體明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/416.wav",
        "text": "所以這個具體明確就很重要了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/417.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/418.wav",
        "text": "是俾利據以判斷調查權之行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/419.wav",
        "text": "是否與立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/420.wav",
        "text": "憲法職權之行使有重大關聯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/421.wav",
        "text": "所以這個範圍必須要明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/422.wav",
        "text": "如果範圍沒有明確的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/423.wav",
        "text": "基本上就會構成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/424.wav",
        "text": "有違憲之虞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/425.wav",
        "text": "其規定始不生牴觸憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/426.wav",
        "text": "尤其在後段還有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/427.wav",
        "text": "政府人員或人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/428.wav",
        "text": "陳述證言或表示意見之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/429.wav",
        "text": "協助調查義務者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/430.wav",
        "text": "之所以我們一開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/431.wav",
        "text": "就要先設定好到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/432.wav",
        "text": "這個調查事項是要調查什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/433.wav",
        "text": "協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/434.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/435.wav",
        "text": "因為他是為了要修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/436.wav",
        "text": "然後這個修法有涉及到未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/437.wav",
        "text": "國家發展基金在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/438.wav",
        "text": "投資的時候有幾個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/439.wav",
        "text": "包括可能涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/440.wav",
        "text": "有虧損就不能去做紓困"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/441.wav",
        "text": "或者涉及到他在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/442.wav",
        "text": "中國有重大投資那我們的國發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/443.wav",
        "text": "基金就不要再去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/444.wav",
        "text": "主要業務在中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/445.wav",
        "text": "的就我的印象是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/446.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/447.wav",
        "text": "基本上就要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/448.wav",
        "text": "啊到底是哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/449.wav",
        "text": "好如果上次說聯合再生那就講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/450.wav",
        "text": "我們要調查聯合再生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/451.wav",
        "text": "如果是說涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/452.wav",
        "text": "紓困上次有講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/453.wav",
        "text": "如興那就把如興講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/454.wav",
        "text": "就是我們的調查範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/455.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在從這個名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/456.wav",
        "text": "看起來對於範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/457.wav",
        "text": "這件事情是沒有特定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/458.wav",
        "text": "沒有特定的話基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/459.wav",
        "text": "就會陷入到第45條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/460.wav",
        "text": "第3項這個範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/461.wav",
        "text": "沒有具體明確就直接會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/462.wav",
        "text": "跑到了憲判字第9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/463.wav",
        "text": "的違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/464.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我還是具體建議院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/465.wav",
        "text": "我們真的需要就憲判字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/466.wav",
        "text": "第9號跟現在的立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/467.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/468.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/469.wav",
        "text": "相對應的適應哪一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/470.wav",
        "text": "法條未來應該要怎麼行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/471.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是要先特定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/472.wav",
        "text": "後我們再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/473.wav",
        "text": "要成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/474.wav",
        "text": "以上是我的具體建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/475.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝蔡易餘書記長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/476.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來黃國昌總召請補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/477.wav",
        "text": "之前上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/478.wav",
        "text": "其實已經講得很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/479.wav",
        "text": "綁的特定議案就是產創條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/480.wav",
        "text": "修法的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/481.wav",
        "text": "至於剛剛蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/482.wav",
        "text": "所講的憲判字判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/483.wav",
        "text": "大家都有看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/484.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們當然就是按照憲判字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/485.wav",
        "text": "具體下去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/486.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可能從民進黨的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/487.wav",
        "text": "上面來看是應該要先修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/488.wav",
        "text": "修完法以後再來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/489.wav",
        "text": "那我們完全抱持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/490.wav",
        "text": "不一樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/491.wav",
        "text": "憲判字裡面沒有宣告違憲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/492.wav",
        "text": "我們就可以繼續做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/493.wav",
        "text": "啊等到院會做成決議以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/494.wav",
        "text": "如果民主進步黨黨團認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/495.wav",
        "text": "通過這樣的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/496.wav",
        "text": "本身就是違憲的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/497.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是一個民主法治的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/498.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼做就怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/499.wav",
        "text": "啊但我是不會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/500.wav",
        "text": "再透過協商這個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/501.wav",
        "text": "去拖延或是去阻礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/502.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來所提出來的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/503.wav",
        "text": "因為上個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/504.wav",
        "text": "我本來就要處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/505.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得院長出來調和鼎鼐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/506.wav",
        "text": "院長說其他黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/507.wav",
        "text": "想要再講一些話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/508.wav",
        "text": "我基本上也都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/509.wav",
        "text": "他們要講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/510.wav",
        "text": "今天也講了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/511.wav",
        "text": "那我們接下來就按照程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/512.wav",
        "text": "來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/513.wav",
        "text": "書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/514.wav",
        "text": "對於剛才蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/515.wav",
        "text": "書記長的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/516.wav",
        "text": "我也在這邊說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/517.wav",
        "text": "其實如果依照這樣的一個標題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/518.wav",
        "text": "來成立我們的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/519.wav",
        "text": "不會跟憲判字第9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/520.wav",
        "text": "有所違背"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/521.wav",
        "text": "啦剛才蔡易餘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/522.wav",
        "text": "一直提到這個會違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/523.wav",
        "text": "調查範圍目的及方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/524.wav",
        "text": "其實我想這整個題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/525.wav",
        "text": "就講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/526.wav",
        "text": "是就特定議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/527.wav",
        "text": "這個調查委員會成立之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/528.wav",
        "text": "要調查什麼樣的特定議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/529.wav",
        "text": "一定會在調查委員會成立之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/530.wav",
        "text": "就會提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/531.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以這個不存在所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/532.wav",
        "text": "跟憲判字第9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/533.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個要說明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/534.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/535.wav",
        "text": "其實我們在整個調查委員會成立之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/536.wav",
        "text": "所認定合憲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/537.wav",
        "text": "我想這是我們國會行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/538.wav",
        "text": "監督制衡行政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/539.wav",
        "text": "非常重要的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/540.wav",
        "text": "因為憲判字第9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/541.wav",
        "text": "我們新的立職法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/542.wav",
        "text": "三讀通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/543.wav",
        "text": "到底立法院如何來行使調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/544.wav",
        "text": "這是首創"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/545.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我覺得我們應該要支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/546.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/547.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/548.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/549.wav",
        "text": "我自己已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/550.wav",
        "text": "多次論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/551.wav",
        "text": "了立法院成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/552.wav",
        "text": "手段跟你的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/553.wav",
        "text": "工具有沒有對等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/554.wav",
        "text": "恕我直言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/555.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨要針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/556.wav",
        "text": "產創條例第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/557.wav",
        "text": "來修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/558.wav",
        "text": "有關產創條例第3條民眾黨的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/559.wav",
        "text": "是要增加最後一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/560.wav",
        "text": "也就是增加第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/561.wav",
        "text": "針對國發基金的運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/562.wav",
        "text": "得運用於什麼情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/563.wav",
        "text": "不得運用於什麼情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/564.wav",
        "text": "的單一項修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/565.wav",
        "text": "恕我直言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/566.wav",
        "text": "要修這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/567.wav",
        "text": "增訂這一項是否合宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/568.wav",
        "text": "其實要召開的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/569.wav",
        "text": "公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/570.wav",
        "text": "而不是去成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/571.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/572.wav",
        "text": "\n我們在審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/573.wav",
        "text": "非常多的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/574.wav",
        "text": "時內容有疑義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/575.wav",
        "text": "跟公共事務相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/576.wav",
        "text": "或是涉及特定團體本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/577.wav",
        "text": "就是我們最常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/578.wav",
        "text": "運用的一個手段跟方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/579.wav",
        "text": "以我看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/580.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨所提產創條例第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/581.wav",
        "text": "修正案對於國發基金的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/582.wav",
        "text": "你想要去界定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/583.wav",
        "text": "到底適不適宜來投資於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/584.wav",
        "text": "企業虧損之紓困"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/585.wav",
        "text": "適不適宜投資於主要生產活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/586.wav",
        "text": "位於中國大陸之企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/587.wav",
        "text": "適不適宜投資於過去三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/588.wav",
        "text": "內違反環保勞工或食安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/589.wav",
        "text": "等情節重大的企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/590.wav",
        "text": "坦白講這個修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/591.wav",
        "text": "非常地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/592.wav",
        "text": "不困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/593.wav",
        "text": "我不要說它非常簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/594.wav",
        "text": "甚至是召開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/595.wav",
        "text": "在經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/596.wav",
        "text": "或者是要聯席委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/597.wav",
        "text": "委員都有足夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/598.wav",
        "text": "資訊能夠有利於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/599.wav",
        "text": "這個條例的修法如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/600.wav",
        "text": "所以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/601.wav",
        "text": "不要無限上綱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/602.wav",
        "text": "啊就我來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/603.wav",
        "text": "今天民眾黨要成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/604.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/605.wav",
        "text": "調查權是立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/606.wav",
        "text": "的輔佐性權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/607.wav",
        "text": "力必須跟他的職權行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/608.wav",
        "text": "有重大關聯者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/609.wav",
        "text": "而跟他的職權行使有重大關聯者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/610.wav",
        "text": "包括審法案也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/611.wav",
        "text": "或是審預算也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/612.wav",
        "text": "恕我直言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/613.wav",
        "text": "現在為了調查而調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/614.wav",
        "text": "拿一個要修產創條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/615.wav",
        "text": "這是非常粗糙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/616.wav",
        "text": "一個兜出來的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/617.wav",
        "text": "sorry這是我的觀察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/618.wav",
        "text": "這是我的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/619.wav",
        "text": "所以要開的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/620.wav",
        "text": "就說我以小人之心度君子之腹好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/621.wav",
        "text": "如果要修產創條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/622.wav",
        "text": "增加您的這一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/623.wav",
        "text": "你真的需要的是一場公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/624.wav",
        "text": "一場不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/625.wav",
        "text": "可以開兩場可以開三場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/626.wav",
        "text": "而不是漫天地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/627.wav",
        "text": "包山包海地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/628.wav",
        "text": "要針對國發基金來成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/629.wav",
        "text": "一個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/630.wav",
        "text": "我也要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/631.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/632.wav",
        "text": "要了解相關的法律非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/633.wav",
        "text": "如果要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/634.wav",
        "text": "運動發展基金的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/635.wav",
        "text": "運發條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/636.wav",
        "text": "那是不是未來審運發條例的每一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/637.wav",
        "text": "都要成立一個針對運動產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/638.wav",
        "text": "投資的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/639.wav",
        "text": "呢不應當如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/640.wav",
        "text": "嘛或者是我們要了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/641.wav",
        "text": "國家對於文創產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/642.wav",
        "text": "文化獎勵條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/643.wav",
        "text": "的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/644.wav",
        "text": "要修法所以就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/645.wav",
        "text": "要去成立對於國家投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/646.wav",
        "text": "文策院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/647.wav",
        "text": "用投融資的方式投入臺灣的文化產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/648.wav",
        "text": "要成立一個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/649.wav",
        "text": "然後包山包海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/650.wav",
        "text": "漫無目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/651.wav",
        "text": "我認為這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/652.wav",
        "text": "手段跟目的是顯然不對等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/653.wav",
        "text": "\n所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/654.wav",
        "text": "剛剛蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/655.wav",
        "text": "因為上週的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/656.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召先行離開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/657.wav",
        "text": "您已經不在場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/658.wav",
        "text": "我手上拿出來的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/659.wav",
        "text": "國發基金2023年的年報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/660.wav",
        "text": "或者是113年第二季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/661.wav",
        "text": "最新的年報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/662.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以清楚地看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/663.wav",
        "text": "國發基金的投資有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/664.wav",
        "text": "重要新興事業的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/665.wav",
        "text": "就有72個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/666.wav",
        "text": "公司我手上的這一本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/667.wav",
        "text": "72個公司就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/668.wav",
        "text": "重要新興事業投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/669.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/670.wav",
        "text": "第二種叫專案投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/671.wav",
        "text": "專案投資裡面有中小企業的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/672.wav",
        "text": "文創產業的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/673.wav",
        "text": "策略性服務業的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/674.wav",
        "text": "跟策略性製造業的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/675.wav",
        "text": "每一項都投資了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/676.wav",
        "text": "上百間公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/677.wav",
        "text": "這是第二大類專案投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/678.wav",
        "text": "國發基金投資的第三大類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/679.wav",
        "text": "叫做創業投資事業的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/680.wav",
        "text": "也是幾百項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/681.wav",
        "text": "第四大類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/682.wav",
        "text": "就是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/683.wav",
        "text": "吳本席一直投入的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/684.wav",
        "text": "就是天使基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/685.wav",
        "text": "我們要對於這些start-up"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/686.wav",
        "text": "初期創投的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/687.wav",
        "text": "創業天使投資方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/688.wav",
        "text": "也是幾百項的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/689.wav",
        "text": "還有一項是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/690.wav",
        "text": "疫情之後影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/691.wav",
        "text": "新創事業的專案投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/692.wav",
        "text": "所以加總起來國發基金投資的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/693.wav",
        "text": "事業等一下可以請副主委講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/694.wav",
        "text": "就是上千間吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/695.wav",
        "text": "難以數計的投資案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/696.wav",
        "text": "\n我不曉得黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/697.wav",
        "text": "我說您的這個調查案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/698.wav",
        "text": "所謂國發基金的不當投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/699.wav",
        "text": "這漫無目的請問你是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/700.wav",
        "text": "這數千家公司都要來調查嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/701.wav",
        "text": "就為了您要修產創條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/702.wav",
        "text": "第3條增加一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/703.wav",
        "text": "您真的需要的是開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/704.wav",
        "text": "公聽會而不是調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/705.wav",
        "text": "甚至"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/706.wav",
        "text": "如果就條文論條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/707.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員您對於產創"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/708.wav",
        "text": "條例第3條您顯然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/709.wav",
        "text": "想要用調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/710.wav",
        "text": "來有利於您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/711.wav",
        "text": "在修法當中的論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/712.wav",
        "text": "就是國發基金適不適宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/713.wav",
        "text": "投資企業虧損之紓困"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/714.wav",
        "text": "如果就條文論條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/715.wav",
        "text": "國發基金它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/716.wav",
        "text": "當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/717.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法投資的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/718.wav",
        "text": "每一間公司都是沒有虧損的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/719.wav",
        "text": "如果大家都要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/720.wav",
        "text": "投會賺錢的那還需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/721.wav",
        "text": "國發基金嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/722.wav",
        "text": "會有一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/723.wav",
        "text": "有風險它會有虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/724.wav",
        "text": "如果對於這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/725.wav",
        "text": "條文你認為只要國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/726.wav",
        "text": "投到虧損的企業好像就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/727.wav",
        "text": "不對的我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/728.wav",
        "text": "這樣是對於整個投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/729.wav",
        "text": "的大環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/730.wav",
        "text": "完全的曲解跟錯解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/731.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我再次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/732.wav",
        "text": "說請把立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/733.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法第八章"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/734.wav",
        "text": "有關調查權之行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/735.wav",
        "text": "現在部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/736.wav",
        "text": "違憲部分合憲它已經是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/737.wav",
        "text": "一個拼裝車式的調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/738.wav",
        "text": "的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/739.wav",
        "text": "先把法修好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/740.wav",
        "text": "先把法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/741.wav",
        "text": "修好再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/742.wav",
        "text": "成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/743.wav",
        "text": "這樣立法院的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/744.wav",
        "text": "委員會才會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/745.wav",
        "text": "更強而有力的武器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/746.wav",
        "text": "而不是現在前後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/747.wav",
        "text": "的條文彼此有矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/748.wav",
        "text": "的調查顯然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/749.wav",
        "text": "也沒有辦法全面跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/750.wav",
        "text": "合理\n所以我再次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/751.wav",
        "text": "奉勸剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/752.wav",
        "text": "黃總召一直在說言下之意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/753.wav",
        "text": "就是今天的協商講一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/754.wav",
        "text": "一講你說你的我也不想聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/755.wav",
        "text": "然後呢就照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/756.wav",
        "text": "程序黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/757.wav",
        "text": "的意思就是院會表決就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/758.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/759.wav",
        "text": "在這個議案上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/760.wav",
        "text": "採取立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/761.wav",
        "text": "應當有的態度跟立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/762.wav",
        "text": "在被宣判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/763.wav",
        "text": "違憲的國會擴權法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/764.wav",
        "text": "當中有很大一包叫做調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/765.wav",
        "text": "立法院現在是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/766.wav",
        "text": "要優先針對調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/767.wav",
        "text": "相關的修法做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/768.wav",
        "text": "才適宜去成立任何一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/769.wav",
        "text": "單一的調查委員會我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/770.wav",
        "text": "院長應當要有這個高度跟態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/771.wav",
        "text": "否則在這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/772.wav",
        "text": "拼裝車之下法沒修好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/773.wav",
        "text": "這裡也要調查委員會那裡也要調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/774.wav",
        "text": "委員會我認為這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/775.wav",
        "text": "調查是為調查而調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/776.wav",
        "text": "沒有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/777.wav",
        "text": "謝謝思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/778.wav",
        "text": "\n黃國昌總召請二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/779.wav",
        "text": "請王鴻薇首席副書記長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/780.wav",
        "text": "其實我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/781.wav",
        "text": "坐在這邊討論事情的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/782.wav",
        "text": "我就希望要就事論事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/783.wav",
        "text": "所以我就不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/784.wav",
        "text": "好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/785.wav",
        "text": "指名道姓地說人家如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/786.wav",
        "text": "但是如果要這樣子發言的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/787.wav",
        "text": "我其實也可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/788.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/789.wav",
        "text": "在討論事實的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/790.wav",
        "text": "可能要本於事實的基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/791.wav",
        "text": "你說你上次發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/792.wav",
        "text": "我人不在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/793.wav",
        "text": "不會啊你上次發言的時候我人在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/794.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛所講的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/795.wav",
        "text": "大概有80%以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/796.wav",
        "text": "你在上一次全部都講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/797.wav",
        "text": "今天只是搬來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/798.wav",
        "text": "再重新講一次而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/799.wav",
        "text": "院長可不可以制止他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/800.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你在講話的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/801.wav",
        "text": "嘛然後我現在坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/802.wav",
        "text": "講話你不斷地干擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/803.wav",
        "text": "院長可以克制他嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/804.wav",
        "text": "OK好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/805.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我還是奉勸吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/806.wav",
        "text": "說話要本於事實的基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/807.wav",
        "text": "你上次講的時候我在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/808.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾聽了在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/809.wav",
        "text": "聽完以後我才發言啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/810.wav",
        "text": "我從頭到尾把這個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/811.wav",
        "text": "到底跟哪個議案綁在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/812.wav",
        "text": "解釋得很清楚了在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/813.wav",
        "text": "上次討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/814.wav",
        "text": "不管是鍾佳濱委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/815.wav",
        "text": "還是吳思瑤委員都強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/816.wav",
        "text": "說要跟特定的議案綁在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/817.wav",
        "text": "所以我才很清楚地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/818.wav",
        "text": "我在提調查委員會的提案以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/819.wav",
        "text": "那你總不可能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/820.wav",
        "text": "看到調查委員會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/821.wav",
        "text": "先質疑人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/822.wav",
        "text": "說你這個不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/823.wav",
        "text": "你要跟法律案綁在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/824.wav",
        "text": "你要跟預算案綁在一起啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/825.wav",
        "text": "結果後來發現人家真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/826.wav",
        "text": "有跟法律案綁在一起的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/827.wav",
        "text": "又開始轉另外一個論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/828.wav",
        "text": "轉了180度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/829.wav",
        "text": "說你這個法律案很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/830.wav",
        "text": "這個開公聽會就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/831.wav",
        "text": "這何必要開調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/832.wav",
        "text": "一個法案在處理的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/833.wav",
        "text": "到底適合開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/834.wav",
        "text": "或是要成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/835.wav",
        "text": "連結聽證會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/836.wav",
        "text": "我想每一個提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/837.wav",
        "text": "每一個提案的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/838.wav",
        "text": "都有他的目的他的打算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/839.wav",
        "text": "嘛民進黨認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/840.wav",
        "text": "這個開公聽會就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/841.wav",
        "text": "那我就很直接講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/842.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團敬表不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/843.wav",
        "text": "我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/844.wav",
        "text": "這個要成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/845.wav",
        "text": "而且要連結聽證會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/846.wav",
        "text": "我們想要達到的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/847.wav",
        "text": "\n我在討論這個法條的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/848.wav",
        "text": "是想國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/849.wav",
        "text": "不可以成為紓困基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/850.wav",
        "text": "我在上次開會的時候講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/851.wav",
        "text": "不是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/852.wav",
        "text": "這也不是我獨創的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/853.wav",
        "text": "潘孟安秘書長在當立法委員的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/854.wav",
        "text": "就一而再再而三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/855.wav",
        "text": "甚至以前民進黨在野還有理想性的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/856.wav",
        "text": "說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/857.wav",
        "text": "說國發基金的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/858.wav",
        "text": "的管理要用條例怎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/859.wav",
        "text": "麼可以用行政命令的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/860.wav",
        "text": "用行政命令授權的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/861.wav",
        "text": "國發基金就胡搞瞎搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/862.wav",
        "text": "變成紓困基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/863.wav",
        "text": "國發基金不可以成為紓困基金啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/864.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才提這個案子嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/865.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/866.wav",
        "text": "我們國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/867.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有成為紓困基金的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/868.wav",
        "text": "這個正是調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/869.wav",
        "text": "要處理的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/870.wav",
        "text": "如果國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/871.wav",
        "text": "就沒有成為紓困基金的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/872.wav",
        "text": "或者是我們國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/873.wav",
        "text": "雖然投了虧損的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/874.wav",
        "text": "但是我們經過調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/875.wav",
        "text": "經過聽證以後發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/876.wav",
        "text": "他一開始的立意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/877.wav",
        "text": "投資決策都沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/878.wav",
        "text": "我們要鼓勵一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/879.wav",
        "text": "新創的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/880.wav",
        "text": "提升產業轉型的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/881.wav",
        "text": "投的都沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/882.wav",
        "text": "以後我們如果立這個條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/883.wav",
        "text": "反而會扼殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/884.wav",
        "text": "我們國發基金對於投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/885.wav",
        "text": "對於新創"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/886.wav",
        "text": "對於產業轉型的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/887.wav",
        "text": "因此這個條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/888.wav",
        "text": "不宜把它立下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/889.wav",
        "text": "也有可能得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/890.wav",
        "text": "總是經過一個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/891.wav",
        "text": "以後你所得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/892.wav",
        "text": "事證資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/893.wav",
        "text": "提供所有立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/894.wav",
        "text": "充足的參考依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/895.wav",
        "text": "來作為最後我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/896.wav",
        "text": "而不是一人一把號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/897.wav",
        "text": "各吹各的調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/898.wav",
        "text": "大家看法都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/899.wav",
        "text": "但相反地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/900.wav",
        "text": "如果調查下去的話發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/901.wav",
        "text": "我們國發基金在投的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/902.wav",
        "text": "有的時候真的投一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/903.wav",
        "text": "不僅僅是虧損嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/904.wav",
        "text": "甚至是莫名其妙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/905.wav",
        "text": "投資決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/906.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫莫名其妙的投資決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/907.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼會去投"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/908.wav",
        "text": "牛仔褲的代工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/909.wav",
        "text": "這是哪一個新創"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/910.wav",
        "text": "還是哪一個轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/911.wav",
        "text": "我完全看不到新創"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/912.wav",
        "text": "也完全看不到轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/913.wav",
        "text": "去投資一個牛仔褲的代工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/914.wav",
        "text": "全部都設在中國大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/915.wav",
        "text": "然後從臺灣的資本市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/916.wav",
        "text": "從國庫裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/917.wav",
        "text": "搬錢去對面在那邊虧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/918.wav",
        "text": "虧到現在股票變壁紙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/919.wav",
        "text": "沒有人要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/920.wav",
        "text": "船過水無痕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/921.wav",
        "text": "反正是納稅人的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/922.wav",
        "text": "嘛有什麼關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/923.wav",
        "text": "大家調查出來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/924.wav",
        "text": "看到這樣的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/925.wav",
        "text": "覺得這樣不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/926.wav",
        "text": "認為我們有進一步控管的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/927.wav",
        "text": "甚至覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/928.wav",
        "text": "我們提出來那個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/929.wav",
        "text": "控管的還不夠嚴格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/930.wav",
        "text": "要再增加也沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/931.wav",
        "text": "啊這個就是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/932.wav",
        "text": "成立這個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/933.wav",
        "text": "跟公聽會連結的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/934.wav",
        "text": "\n如果真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/935.wav",
        "text": "要講到憲判的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/936.wav",
        "text": "老實講憲判也沒那麼複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/937.wav",
        "text": "絕大多數的條文都合憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/938.wav",
        "text": "但不能處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/939.wav",
        "text": "處罰就違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/940.wav",
        "text": "從調查權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/941.wav",
        "text": "一路到刑法那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/942.wav",
        "text": "都一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/943.wav",
        "text": "我們的大法官創造了一個非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/944.wav",
        "text": "中華民國憲政價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/945.wav",
        "text": "就是找來調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/946.wav",
        "text": "備詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/947.wav",
        "text": "可以說謊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/948.wav",
        "text": "不准處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/949.wav",
        "text": "說謊沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/950.wav",
        "text": "不來也沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/951.wav",
        "text": "如果說謊不來就要處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/952.wav",
        "text": "我們大法官宣告的憲政價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/953.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣人民都看得很清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/954.wav",
        "text": "嘛有人認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/955.wav",
        "text": "有人反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/956.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是一個多元民主的社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/957.wav",
        "text": "各種聲音統統都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/958.wav",
        "text": "我個人是反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/959.wav",
        "text": "但是我們反對歸反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/960.wav",
        "text": "我們還是尊重體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/961.wav",
        "text": "尊重這個體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/962.wav",
        "text": "\n我對這個判決的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/963.wav",
        "text": "很遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/964.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這一群大法官去宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/965.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的國會說謊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/966.wav",
        "text": "不可以處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/967.wav",
        "text": "是我們的憲政價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/968.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/969.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/970.wav",
        "text": "符合憲判字的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/971.wav",
        "text": "提出我們的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/972.wav",
        "text": "其他黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/973.wav",
        "text": "有不同的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/974.wav",
        "text": "我也尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/975.wav",
        "text": "臺灣本來就是一個多元民主的社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/976.wav",
        "text": "當大家有不一樣看法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/977.wav",
        "text": "難不成是要在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/978.wav",
        "text": "拖到大家有一致看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/979.wav",
        "text": "才能夠處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/980.wav",
        "text": "如果大家沒有一致的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/981.wav",
        "text": "只要民主進步黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/982.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/983.wav",
        "text": "這件事情就沒有辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/984.wav",
        "text": "恐怕遊戲規則也不是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/985.wav",
        "text": "嘛以上針對第二次的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/986.wav",
        "text": "簡短回應謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/987.wav",
        "text": "接下來王鴻薇委員發言蔡易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/988.wav",
        "text": "記長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/989.wav",
        "text": "等蔡易餘書記長發言完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/990.wav",
        "text": "我就要進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/991.wav",
        "text": "等一下他如果發言完畢他就第三輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/992.wav",
        "text": "那我們也要有第三輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/993.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/994.wav",
        "text": "我想先謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/995.wav",
        "text": "院長再次針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/996.wav",
        "text": "這次我們要針對國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/997.wav",
        "text": "來成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/998.wav",
        "text": "再度地協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/999.wav",
        "text": "事實上在上一次的協商裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1000.wav",
        "text": "國發基金裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1001.wav",
        "text": "包含一些投資虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1002.wav",
        "text": "甚至是弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1003.wav",
        "text": "其實大家已經講得非常清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1004.wav",
        "text": "擺出來的態度非常明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1005.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1006.wav",
        "text": "就是反對成立這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1007.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1008.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1009.wav",
        "text": "一直透過冗長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1010.wav",
        "text": "或者像這樣倒帶式地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1011.wav",
        "text": "一直在做這些重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1012.wav",
        "text": "我覺得只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1013.wav",
        "text": "浪費時間跟拖延而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1014.wav",
        "text": "其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1015.wav",
        "text": "我們在這次所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1016.wav",
        "text": "成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1017.wav",
        "text": "已經基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1018.wav",
        "text": "釋憲案之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1019.wav",
        "text": "在我們的院會成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1020.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會已經是合憲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1021.wav",
        "text": "而且我們也願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1022.wav",
        "text": "我們的立法院職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1023.wav",
        "text": "行使法來成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1024.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得還有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1025.wav",
        "text": "問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1026.wav",
        "text": "如果說今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1027.wav",
        "text": "我們成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1028.wav",
        "text": "變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1029.wav",
        "text": "合憲不讓你成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1030.wav",
        "text": "然後你說不合憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1031.wav",
        "text": "也不讓你成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1032.wav",
        "text": "那到底我們立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1033.wav",
        "text": "的職權在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1034.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不能那麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1035.wav",
        "text": "還有一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1036.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得我們各政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1037.wav",
        "text": "容或有不同的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1038.wav",
        "text": "但是不需要來下指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1039.wav",
        "text": "我覺得各政黨都有可能提案修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1040.wav",
        "text": "那麼在提案修法的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1041.wav",
        "text": "裡面需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1042.wav",
        "text": "成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1043.wav",
        "text": "或者是聽證會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1044.wav",
        "text": "來補強加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1045.wav",
        "text": "請問一下這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1046.wav",
        "text": "有什麼問題呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1047.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要去指導人家說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1048.wav",
        "text": "你應該用公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1049.wav",
        "text": "啊我覺得不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1050.wav",
        "text": "下這樣的指導棋吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1051.wav",
        "text": "如果我們今天的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1052.wav",
        "text": "變成你動不動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1053.wav",
        "text": "就來指導其他政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1054.wav",
        "text": "我覺得沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1055.wav",
        "text": "而且也是浪費時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1056.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我也沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1057.wav",
        "text": "我們在協商的過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1058.wav",
        "text": "大家各抒己見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1059.wav",
        "text": "嘛什麼在指導院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1060.wav",
        "text": "應當要有什麼樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1061.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1062.wav",
        "text": "應當要有什麼樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1063.wav",
        "text": "院長不是在協商嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1064.wav",
        "text": "不是在尊重每一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1065.wav",
        "text": "政黨代表的發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1066.wav",
        "text": "如果今天我們的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1067.wav",
        "text": "變成動不動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1068.wav",
        "text": "在下指導棋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1069.wav",
        "text": "可以指導其他政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1070.wav",
        "text": "還可以指導院長應該持什麼樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1071.wav",
        "text": "這是協商嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1072.wav",
        "text": "我們是來聽訓的吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1073.wav",
        "text": "\n至於國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1074.wav",
        "text": "應不應該成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1075.wav",
        "text": "我上次就說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1076.wav",
        "text": "我們走出這個會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1077.wav",
        "text": "看看大家對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1078.wav",
        "text": "國發基金的評價是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1079.wav",
        "text": "不停的虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1080.wav",
        "text": "不停的踩雷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1081.wav",
        "text": "不停的出現弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1082.wav",
        "text": "立法院成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1083.wav",
        "text": "一個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1084.wav",
        "text": "給人民一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1085.wav",
        "text": "有何不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1086.wav",
        "text": "不應該嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1087.wav",
        "text": "人民沒有知的權利嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1088.wav",
        "text": "按照現在民進黨的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1089.wav",
        "text": "如果不修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1090.wav",
        "text": "就不能成立調查委員會的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1091.wav",
        "text": "那麼我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1092.wav",
        "text": "根本就沒有辦法成立任何的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1093.wav",
        "text": "啊這樣的拖延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1094.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是不合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1095.wav",
        "text": "所以我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1096.wav",
        "text": "院長辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1097.wav",
        "text": "院長也許待會我們再告一段落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1098.wav",
        "text": "真的應該做出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1099.wav",
        "text": "決定我們應該做一些處理吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1100.wav",
        "text": "否則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1101.wav",
        "text": "我們只是不停的在聽訓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1102.wav",
        "text": "啊\n沒有道理我們也沒有這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1103.wav",
        "text": "義務再接受別人的指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1104.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1105.wav",
        "text": "你在聽訓我聽訓最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1106.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝我們蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1107.wav",
        "text": "記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1108.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1109.wav",
        "text": "我第二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1110.wav",
        "text": "我想我要強調的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1111.wav",
        "text": "我們現在行使的法律是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1112.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法第45條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1113.wav",
        "text": "第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1114.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會之名稱調查事項目的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1115.wav",
        "text": "及成員人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1116.wav",
        "text": "由院會議決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1117.wav",
        "text": "之所以就表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1118.wav",
        "text": "成員人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1119.wav",
        "text": "都必須要院會議決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1120.wav",
        "text": "所以必須在這一個法案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1121.wav",
        "text": "這一個議決案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1122.wav",
        "text": "就要把這些事情講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1123.wav",
        "text": "我要成立一個國發基金不當調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1124.wav",
        "text": "這樣就代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1125.wav",
        "text": "我把這些事情講清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1126.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要議決嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1127.wav",
        "text": "議決的意思就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1128.wav",
        "text": "法案的名稱要把它講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1129.wav",
        "text": "然後大家來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1130.wav",
        "text": "然後最後做出決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1131.wav",
        "text": "基本上也把這個都講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1132.wav",
        "text": "喔我們就看憲判字第9號的第5項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1133.wav",
        "text": "它就講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1134.wav",
        "text": "我們這個議決的調查事項含範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1135.wav",
        "text": "應該要具體明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1136.wav",
        "text": "這我剛才說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1137.wav",
        "text": "沒有具體明確的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1138.wav",
        "text": "等於說現在對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1139.wav",
        "text": "被調查的機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1140.wav",
        "text": "它就處在一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1141.wav",
        "text": "到底要調查哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1142.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們幹事長也有列舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1143.wav",
        "text": "事實上國發基金所投資的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1144.wav",
        "text": "項目非常地多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1145.wav",
        "text": "甚至很多公司是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1146.wav",
        "text": "屬於天使投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1147.wav",
        "text": "它是新創公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1148.wav",
        "text": "剛開始成立的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1149.wav",
        "text": "國家推它一把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1150.wav",
        "text": "但它未必有賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1151.wav",
        "text": "它可能早期是虧損的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1152.wav",
        "text": "那也有很多投資事實上是賺錢的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1153.wav",
        "text": "所以事實上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1154.wav",
        "text": "前兩次協商的時候都有表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1155.wav",
        "text": "不能說國發基金的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1156.wav",
        "text": "是賺錢的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1157.wav",
        "text": "就代表它一定沒有弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1158.wav",
        "text": "但是也不能說它是虧損的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1159.wav",
        "text": "就代表它一定是弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1160.wav",
        "text": "所以這個國發基金的意思就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1161.wav",
        "text": "這個範圍沒有說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1162.wav",
        "text": "那你到底要調查什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1163.wav",
        "text": "我現在再來講關鍵的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1164.wav",
        "text": "我們這一次憲判字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1165.wav",
        "text": "第9號第5段的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1166.wav",
        "text": "第4項講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1167.wav",
        "text": "就立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1168.wav",
        "text": "第45條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1169.wav",
        "text": "你要發動調查權成立"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1170.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1171.wav",
        "text": "經過其他憲法機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1172.wav",
        "text": "主張有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1173.wav",
        "text": "逾越憲法上的權限"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1174.wav",
        "text": "表達反對國發會有表達反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1175.wav",
        "text": "致生權限爭議的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1176.wav",
        "text": "相關憲法機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1177.wav",
        "text": "應儘可能協商解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1178.wav",
        "text": "所以院長應該要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1179.wav",
        "text": "或循其他適當憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1180.wav",
        "text": "途徑處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1181.wav",
        "text": "協商未果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1182.wav",
        "text": "立法院尚不得逕為調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1183.wav",
        "text": "我想這文字都講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1184.wav",
        "text": "所以我看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1185.wav",
        "text": "大法官解釋很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1186.wav",
        "text": "重點是文字就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1187.wav",
        "text": "在這裡你們都不就憲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1188.wav",
        "text": "判字的內容文字來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1189.wav",
        "text": "有效的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1190.wav",
        "text": "你們還在堅持就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1191.wav",
        "text": "要調查國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1192.wav",
        "text": "國發基金的不當調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1193.wav",
        "text": "範圍到底是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1194.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾我都一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1195.wav",
        "text": "到底範圍是哪些項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1196.wav",
        "text": "你可以說好我就是要調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1197.wav",
        "text": "如興我要調查聯合再生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1198.wav",
        "text": "就要在我們的決議案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1199.wav",
        "text": "寫清楚啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1200.wav",
        "text": "因為這是未來要議決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1201.wav",
        "text": "所以再讓我補充"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1202.wav",
        "text": "如果我們這種調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1203.wav",
        "text": "都是這樣漫無目的的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1204.wav",
        "text": "那如果大家跳出來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1205.wav",
        "text": "我想要調查政黨的政治"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1206.wav",
        "text": "移轉到私人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1207.wav",
        "text": "如果我們只成立這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1208.wav",
        "text": "因為有這樣一個調查委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1209.wav",
        "text": "我就要調查木可"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1210.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1211.wav",
        "text": "不可以因為一開始沒有講清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1212.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為你就成立了一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1213.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會你指的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1214.wav",
        "text": "那就包山包海不可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1215.wav",
        "text": "應該一開始就講清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1216.wav",
        "text": "我們是要調查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1217.wav",
        "text": "哪一件政治獻金不當使用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1218.wav",
        "text": "哪一件政治獻金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1219.wav",
        "text": "的核銷有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1220.wav",
        "text": "講清楚哪一件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1221.wav",
        "text": "包山包海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1222.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣嗎不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1223.wav",
        "text": "謝謝蔡易餘書記長的第三輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1224.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請黃國昌總召第三輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1225.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我想民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1226.wav",
        "text": "把他們的意思又重複的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1227.wav",
        "text": "再講了一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1228.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都聆聽到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1229.wav",
        "text": "憲判字的判決大家都會去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1230.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1231.wav",
        "text": "按照判決該怎麼走就怎麼走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1232.wav",
        "text": "等到成立了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1233.wav",
        "text": "認為有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1234.wav",
        "text": "因為其實我們的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1235.wav",
        "text": "也是煞費苦心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1236.wav",
        "text": "幫我們立法院的調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1237.wav",
        "text": "設下了重重關卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1238.wav",
        "text": "大法官非常的體貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1239.wav",
        "text": "幫我們的行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1240.wav",
        "text": "設下了重重關卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1241.wav",
        "text": "立法院不要輕易的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1242.wav",
        "text": "啟動調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1243.wav",
        "text": "白紙黑字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1244.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1245.wav",
        "text": "行政院到時候有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1246.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1247.wav",
        "text": "就按照大法官的指示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1248.wav",
        "text": "有爭議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1249.wav",
        "text": "就按照爭議處理程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1250.wav",
        "text": "臺灣每一個公民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1251.wav",
        "text": "大家都有眼睛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1252.wav",
        "text": "都有耳朵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1253.wav",
        "text": "大家心裡都有一把尺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1254.wav",
        "text": "臺灣就是一個民主社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1255.wav",
        "text": "大家心裡都有一把尺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1256.wav",
        "text": "每一個機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1257.wav",
        "text": "每一個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1258.wav",
        "text": "所展現的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1259.wav",
        "text": "所抱持的政治立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1260.wav",
        "text": "自己要負政治責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1261.wav",
        "text": "對整個社會負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1262.wav",
        "text": "如果社會認為不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1263.wav",
        "text": "成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1264.wav",
        "text": "如果社會認為我們成立這個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1265.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1266.wav",
        "text": "所謂的包山包海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1267.wav",
        "text": "漫無目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1268.wav",
        "text": "那社會當然會懲罰我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1269.wav",
        "text": "嘛但我要說的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1270.wav",
        "text": "你說包山包海漫無目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1271.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1272.wav",
        "text": "我會處理得很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1273.wav",
        "text": "如果到時候你覺得不明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1274.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1275.wav",
        "text": "那就看行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1276.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1277.wav",
        "text": "就怎麼做嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1278.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1279.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1280.wav",
        "text": "接下來國民黨黨團第3輪發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1281.wav",
        "text": "我要做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1282.wav",
        "text": "請傅崐萁總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1283.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1284.wav",
        "text": "從上一次的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1285.wav",
        "text": "討論到這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1286.wav",
        "text": "因為我們每一次的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1287.wav",
        "text": "都非常冗長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1288.wav",
        "text": "而且一直圍繞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1289.wav",
        "text": "在同樣的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1290.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1291.wav",
        "text": "為什麼說院長很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1292.wav",
        "text": "院長也說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1293.wav",
        "text": "自己是受氣包受氣最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1294.wav",
        "text": "事實上也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1295.wav",
        "text": "\n再接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1296.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我會提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1297.wav",
        "text": "早上9點就開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1298.wav",
        "text": "因為未來會不斷碰到這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1299.wav",
        "text": "一個案子要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1300.wav",
        "text": "在朝野協商是經過了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1301.wav",
        "text": "過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1302.wav",
        "text": "一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1303.wav",
        "text": "提案出來要經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1304.wav",
        "text": "委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1305.wav",
        "text": "再送到議事處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1306.wav",
        "text": "經過程序委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1307.wav",
        "text": "經過院會的復議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1308.wav",
        "text": "院會通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1309.wav",
        "text": "再經過復議期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1310.wav",
        "text": "才到委員會來排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1311.wav",
        "text": "可能一次可能幾次都不曉得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1312.wav",
        "text": "出委員會以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1313.wav",
        "text": "再到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1314.wav",
        "text": "委員會的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1315.wav",
        "text": "然後再到院會的協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1316.wav",
        "text": "都要這樣走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1317.wav",
        "text": "雖然2016年蘇嘉全院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1318.wav",
        "text": "已經表示"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1319.wav",
        "text": "委員會的協商一次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1320.wav",
        "text": "或者院會的協商一次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1321.wav",
        "text": "就可以交給院會處理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1322.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1323.wav",
        "text": "我們在這一屆立委"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1324.wav",
        "text": "任內"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1325.wav",
        "text": "不管是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1326.wav",
        "text": "院長的態度也好"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1327.wav",
        "text": "還是在野黨的態度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1328.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重執政黨"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1329.wav",
        "text": "儘可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1330.wav",
        "text": "地沒有遵照"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1331.wav",
        "text": "2016年蘇嘉全立法院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1332.wav",
        "text": "的決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1333.wav",
        "text": "所有的法案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1334.wav",
        "text": "先經過委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1335.wav",
        "text": "出委員會之後還要經過委員會的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1336.wav",
        "text": "各政黨協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1337.wav",
        "text": "才到院長主持的朝野協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1338.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要把這些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1339.wav",
        "text": "先敘明我們是經過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1340.wav",
        "text": "很完整的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1341.wav",
        "text": "程序才到院長的協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1342.wav",
        "text": "到院長的協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1343.wav",
        "text": "如果我們還要把委員會所有的事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1344.wav",
        "text": "再講一次兩次三次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1345.wav",
        "text": "那麼就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1346.wav",
        "text": "我們要上廁所的上廁所"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1347.wav",
        "text": "真的要出去呼吸新鮮空氣的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1348.wav",
        "text": "因為我們都不曉得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1349.wav",
        "text": "同樣的事情聽了這麼多次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1350.wav",
        "text": "還要再聽嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1351.wav",
        "text": "我已經很不想再講話了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1352.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1353.wav",
        "text": "走過就留下痕跡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1354.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1355.wav",
        "text": "我們還是很尊重地"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1356.wav",
        "text": "把一些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1357.wav",
        "text": "現在的調查報告講一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1358.wav",
        "text": "監察院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1359.wav",
        "text": "的審查報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1360.wav",
        "text": "本席宣讀一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1361.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1362.wav",
        "text": "連續虧損"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1363.wav",
        "text": "之投資事業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1364.wav",
        "text": "未落實評估"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1365.wav",
        "text": "檢討"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1366.wav",
        "text": "及適時研擬處置"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1367.wav",
        "text": "措施影響"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1368.wav",
        "text": "基金管理效能"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1369.wav",
        "text": "狀況非常"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1370.wav",
        "text": "嚴重"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1371.wav",
        "text": "已經沒有財政目的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1372.wav",
        "text": "政策意義"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1373.wav",
        "text": "或已經偏離投資"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1374.wav",
        "text": "目的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1375.wav",
        "text": "這些事業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1376.wav",
        "text": "也沒有落實退場"
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        "text": "全部是民進黨"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1379.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1380.wav",
        "text": "所做出的監察報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1381.wav",
        "text": "對國發基金"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1382.wav",
        "text": "的抨擊非常"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1383.wav",
        "text": "我們再念一下國會"
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        "text": "預算中心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1385.wav",
        "text": "所做出的報告"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1386.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1388.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1390.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1391.wav",
        "text": "或是公司已經面臨解散"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1392.wav",
        "text": "相關情事"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1393.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有加強監督"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1394.wav",
        "text": "也沒有適時研擬"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1396.wav",
        "text": "再過來"
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        "text": "這個是最嚴重的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1399.wav",
        "text": "逾半數的直接投資事業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1400.wav",
        "text": "呈現虧損"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1401.wav",
        "text": "而且其中的事業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1402.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1404.wav",
        "text": "的或者損失超過10億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1405.wav",
        "text": "這都是民脂民膏"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1406.wav",
        "text": "\n本席為什麼提到"
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        "text": "112年度"
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        "text": "我們所有"
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        "text": "的四大基金"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1410.wav",
        "text": "民間的投資基金"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1411.wav",
        "text": "投信"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1412.wav",
        "text": "都在發大財"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1413.wav",
        "text": "都在賺大錢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1414.wav",
        "text": "這個國發基金竟然還在虧損"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1415.wav",
        "text": "它逾半數以上的投資"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1416.wav",
        "text": "是虧損"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1417.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1418.wav",
        "text": "是創業投資事業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1419.wav",
        "text": "計畫尚在"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1420.wav",
        "text": "營運中之創業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1421.wav",
        "text": "投資事業近三成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1422.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1423.wav",
        "text": "投資報酬率為"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1424.wav",
        "text": "負數"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1425.wav",
        "text": "這是老百姓的錢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1426.wav",
        "text": "創業天使"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1427.wav",
        "text": "投資方案"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1428.wav",
        "text": "112年度"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1429.wav",
        "text": "的執行率未達五成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1430.wav",
        "text": "且部分投資事業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1431.wav",
        "text": "辦理減資"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1432.wav",
        "text": "虧損連連的公司要減資"
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        "text": "解散是什麼意思"
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        "text": "公司倒閉"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1435.wav",
        "text": "這是我們國會的預算中心所做的評估"
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        "text": "難道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1437.wav",
        "text": "國發基金"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1438.wav",
        "text": "不應該來好好調查"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1439.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1440.wav",
        "text": "現任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1441.wav",
        "text": "中華民國大總管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1442.wav",
        "text": "潘孟安先生"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1443.wav",
        "text": "過去在立法院的發言"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1444.wav",
        "text": "國發基金是來自於"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1445.wav",
        "text": "人民的血汗錢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1446.wav",
        "text": "但是如果用途沒有規範"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1447.wav",
        "text": "就變成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1448.wav",
        "text": "大開方便之門"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1449.wav",
        "text": "還居然"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1450.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何法律"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1451.wav",
        "text": "規範"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1452.wav",
        "text": "潘孟安當時講本席"
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        "text": "認為"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1454.wav",
        "text": "期期不可"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1455.wav",
        "text": "啊國發基金的運用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1456.wav",
        "text": "必須要明文"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1457.wav",
        "text": "國會的大總管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1458.wav",
        "text": "我們敬愛的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1459.wav",
        "text": "柯老柯總召說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1460.wav",
        "text": "政府應該扮演"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1461.wav",
        "text": "管理的角色"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1462.wav",
        "text": "不應該辦理投資的角色"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1463.wav",
        "text": "這就嚴重了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1464.wav",
        "text": "國發基金怎麼可以辦理投資的角色"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1465.wav",
        "text": "我們現在討論的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1466.wav",
        "text": "都是國發基金錯誤的投資"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1467.wav",
        "text": "而且虧損連連超過"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1468.wav",
        "text": "半數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1469.wav",
        "text": "未來國發基金"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1470.wav",
        "text": "如果還要從事投資行為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1471.wav",
        "text": "官商勾結的溫床"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1472.wav",
        "text": "行政院開發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1473.wav",
        "text": "從民國六十幾年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1474.wav",
        "text": "成立至今"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1475.wav",
        "text": "形成一個官商勾結的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1476.wav",
        "text": "產物把國家的錢套出去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1477.wav",
        "text": "對於國發基金的設計"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1478.wav",
        "text": "方面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1479.wav",
        "text": "應該要把"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1480.wav",
        "text": "國發基金廢除"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1481.wav",
        "text": "就算要存在"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1482.wav",
        "text": "也不能扮演"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1483.wav",
        "text": "紓困的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1484.wav",
        "text": "已經講得這麼清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1485.wav",
        "text": "加上立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1486.wav",
        "text": "預算中心還有監察院的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1487.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院一天到晚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1488.wav",
        "text": "在成立全院調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1489.wav",
        "text": "我們真的要很汗顏地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1490.wav",
        "text": "從第11屆立法院開議到今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1491.wav",
        "text": "我們到底成立了幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1492.wav",
        "text": "立法院院會的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1493.wav",
        "text": "很抱歉一個都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1494.wav",
        "text": "一個都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1495.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1496.wav",
        "text": "一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1497.wav",
        "text": "廉潔的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1498.wav",
        "text": "是國會該做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1499.wav",
        "text": "監督的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1500.wav",
        "text": "如果到今天為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1501.wav",
        "text": "一個全院的調查委員會都還沒有成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1502.wav",
        "text": "表示這一屆的立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1503.wav",
        "text": "全國人民的託付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1504.wav",
        "text": "我想積極地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1505.wav",
        "text": "來辦理相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1506.wav",
        "text": "連立法院預算中心都認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1507.wav",
        "text": "弊案重重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1508.wav",
        "text": "監察院也認為有調查的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1509.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要即刻來成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1510.wav",
        "text": "\n未來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1511.wav",
        "text": "在協商的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1512.wav",
        "text": "如果我們的協商一直議而不決的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1513.wav",
        "text": "真的可能以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1514.wav",
        "text": "早上9點就可以開會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1515.wav",
        "text": "萬一再不行就早上6點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1516.wav",
        "text": "來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1517.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1518.wav",
        "text": "我是想要做一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1519.wav",
        "text": "我跟各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1520.wav",
        "text": "報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1521.wav",
        "text": "讓我先講講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1522.wav",
        "text": "記長問我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1523.wav",
        "text": "要不要繼續溝通我說要繼續溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1524.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們才安排繼續溝通這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1525.wav",
        "text": "是這樣上次非常感謝國發會高副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1526.wav",
        "text": "也報告過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1527.wav",
        "text": "行政部門的意見我們也聽到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1528.wav",
        "text": "所以今天才會有這次的繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1529.wav",
        "text": "就這個案子進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1530.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五沒有處理這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1531.wav",
        "text": "就是因為尊重各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1532.wav",
        "text": "希望大家意見再把它呈現出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1533.wav",
        "text": "但是如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1534.wav",
        "text": "一直發言下去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1535.wav",
        "text": "我想我們不能不做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1536.wav",
        "text": "為你要四輪發言其他兩個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1537.wav",
        "text": "我也要徵詢一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1538.wav",
        "text": "會議處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1539.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1540.wav",
        "text": "因為我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1541.wav",
        "text": "你可以會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1542.wav",
        "text": "會議詢問當然可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1543.wav",
        "text": "\n好吳思瑤幹事長要做會議詢問請詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1544.wav",
        "text": "我想從頭到尾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1545.wav",
        "text": "不能夠去成立什麼調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1546.wav",
        "text": "去調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1547.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的國會改革版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1548.wav",
        "text": "也有調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1549.wav",
        "text": "也有只是你的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1550.wav",
        "text": "應當把法制完備再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1551.wav",
        "text": "好第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1552.wav",
        "text": "我講到現在我沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1553.wav",
        "text": "聽到提案的人對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1554.wav",
        "text": "你要調查的明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1555.wav",
        "text": "範圍是哪幾家公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1556.wav",
        "text": "我們在說的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1557.wav",
        "text": "一個範圍不明確的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1558.wav",
        "text": "請問你要調查誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1559.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要成立一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1560.wav",
        "text": "國發基金不當投資的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1561.wav",
        "text": "提案人講不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1562.wav",
        "text": "他到底要調查誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1563.wav",
        "text": "如果你要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1564.wav",
        "text": "調查如興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1565.wav",
        "text": "如興現在有訴訟中的案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1566.wav",
        "text": "立法院是不能調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1567.wav",
        "text": "如果你要調查聯合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1568.wav",
        "text": "再生現在監察院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1569.wav",
        "text": "在調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1570.wav",
        "text": "所以院長今天要成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1571.wav",
        "text": "你要調查誰要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1572.wav",
        "text": "還是你要調查木可公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1573.wav",
        "text": "我可以因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1574.wav",
        "text": "我要修政治獻金法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1575.wav",
        "text": "我就漫無目的地的要去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1576.wav",
        "text": "政黨的政治獻金嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1577.wav",
        "text": "所以範圍是誰院長這個問題沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1578.wav",
        "text": "回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1579.wav",
        "text": "的詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1580.wav",
        "text": "對於議案主體的詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1581.wav",
        "text": "請問提案人你要調查國發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1582.wav",
        "text": "基金誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1583.wav",
        "text": "我們一直都沒辦法產生共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1584.wav",
        "text": "我們今天第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1585.wav",
        "text": "我們就依議事規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1586.wav",
        "text": "講不清楚要調查誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1587.wav",
        "text": "院長我可以會議詢問嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1588.wav",
        "text": "稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1589.wav",
        "text": "我要提醒各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1590.wav",
        "text": "務必要告訴各位委員這個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1591.wav",
        "text": "只有上午開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1592.wav",
        "text": "很多委員習慣下午簽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1593.wav",
        "text": "所以他下午來是沒辦法簽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1594.wav",
        "text": "請各位提醒各位黨團的委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1595.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五上午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1596.wav",
        "text": "院會只有開半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1597.wav",
        "text": "一定要在上午完成簽到這一點很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1598.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在休息之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1599.wav",
        "text": "我們就來進行下面選罷法的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1600.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1601.wav",
        "text": "好各位黨團幹部請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1602.wav",
        "text": "在進入今天的第三個討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1603.wav",
        "text": "關於公職人員選舉罷免法部分條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1604.wav",
        "text": "上一次我們已經聽過行政部門意見各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1605.wav",
        "text": "也交換過意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1606.wav",
        "text": "請問今天就這個議題大家有沒有其他寶貴意見要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1607.wav",
        "text": "好請吳思瑤幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1608.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1609.wav",
        "text": "我想每一次的協商都是一個對話都是一個溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1610.wav",
        "text": "都是每一個議案要在院會處理前最後對話的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1611.wav",
        "text": "所以請所有的黨鞭我們承擔的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1612.wav",
        "text": "就是要在任何議案表決前我們盡可能的匯聚共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1613.wav",
        "text": "這就是朝野協商的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1614.wav",
        "text": "所以王金平院長前幾天說的話很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1615.wav",
        "text": "很多話很多議案的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1616.wav",
        "text": "很多條文邏輯不通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1617.wav",
        "text": "很多條文閹割民權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1618.wav",
        "text": "很多條文恐怕會有傷及其他憲政機關的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1619.wav",
        "text": "或者是很多議案可能過當的衍生了立法院享有的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1620.wav",
        "text": "這些東西都應當好好來論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1621.wav",
        "text": "我不希望在討論議案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1622.wav",
        "text": "大家都覺得不耐煩不想聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1623.wav",
        "text": "我認為這不是從政者把耳朵打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1624.wav",
        "text": "願意對話開誠布公應當有的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1625.wav",
        "text": "對於選罷法我想民進黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1626.wav",
        "text": "不管是連署加嚴加密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1627.wav",
        "text": "這個都是設下了門檻設下了難關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1628.wav",
        "text": "剝奪人民行使罷免的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1629.wav",
        "text": "這些我們也都論述很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1630.wav",
        "text": "社會的撻伐也非常強大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1631.wav",
        "text": "別以為我們不會講到煩我們也講到很煩了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1632.wav",
        "text": "只是有人就是掩耳盜鈴就是講不聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1633.wav",
        "text": "\n我要再跟院長也想要再請示一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1634.wav",
        "text": "現在的選罷法此時此刻在協商的是連署加嚴加密的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1635.wav",
        "text": "另外在內政委員會今天要排案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1636.wav",
        "text": "是另外一個條文有關投票門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1637.wav",
        "text": "的部分我想請求院長今天上午就發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1638.wav",
        "text": "主席召委進入會場議事攻防大家都司空見慣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1639.wav",
        "text": "但是如果要進行議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1640.wav",
        "text": "也應當使用所有會議室裡頭的直播或者是擴音系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1641.wav",
        "text": "今天發生的是召委企圖帶著議事人員在他旁邊宣讀議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1642.wav",
        "text": "使用的是國民黨團自己帶進來的麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1643.wav",
        "text": "這就沒有辦法直播出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1644.wav",
        "text": "事實上院長不也是從上個會期開始就非常三申五令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1645.wav",
        "text": "所有黨團不要攜帶麥克風進入任何議事場域嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1646.wav",
        "text": "可是不管是今天的內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1647.wav",
        "text": "或是上上週在財政委員會審查財劃法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1648.wav",
        "text": "都有國民黨的委員拿著自備的黨團麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1649.wav",
        "text": "或者是委員個別的麥克風進場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1650.wav",
        "text": "這個是一定要再制止的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1651.wav",
        "text": "院長您已經制止過很多次但是還繼續發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1652.wav",
        "text": "\n現在回到這個本題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1653.wav",
        "text": "今天院長處理的是加嚴加密的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1654.wav",
        "text": "就是沒收人民權利的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1655.wav",
        "text": "我們都沒有辦法支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1656.wav",
        "text": "而且如果以過去大法官釋字第499號的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1657.wav",
        "text": "任何涉己事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1658.wav",
        "text": "也就是要在選罷法裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1659.wav",
        "text": "可能作出自肥的涉己事項或者是利益該迴避而沒迴避的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1660.wav",
        "text": "都應當由下一屆開始施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1661.wav",
        "text": "涉己事項絕對不應當是當屆就開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1662.wav",
        "text": "因為我們當選立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1663.wav",
        "text": "連任立法委員不管是新任或連任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1664.wav",
        "text": "我們的任期從2024年到2028"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1665.wav",
        "text": "年我們都跟人民簽定了4年的契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1666.wav",
        "text": "這4年的契約就包括了所有選舉罷免的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1667.wav",
        "text": "這都是這4年間我們跟選民定下的契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1668.wav",
        "text": "所以大法官釋字第499號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1669.wav",
        "text": "的解釋曾經對於國民大會要提高其報酬或待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1670.wav",
        "text": "然後自己修正提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1671.wav",
        "text": "大法官就已經很清楚地說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1672.wav",
        "text": "任何涉己事務都要遵守利益迴避的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1673.wav",
        "text": "同理如果要提高罷免的難度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1674.wav",
        "text": "保護現在這一屆的立法委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1675.wav",
        "text": "這就應當回到下個屆期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1676.wav",
        "text": "才能夠施行的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1677.wav",
        "text": "否則我們又違憲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1678.wav",
        "text": "\n所以麻煩在場的在野黨委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1679.wav",
        "text": "政治無他耐煩而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1680.wav",
        "text": "在場有我們的內政部劉世芳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1681.wav",
        "text": "中選會李進勇主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1682.wav",
        "text": "站在主管機關行政部門的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1683.wav",
        "text": "也都多次說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1684.wav",
        "text": "行政部門反對選罷法的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1685.wav",
        "text": "反對增加罷免的難度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1686.wav",
        "text": "大家都一再的論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1687.wav",
        "text": "只是在野黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1688.wav",
        "text": "蒙起了耳朵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1689.wav",
        "text": "不聽就是不聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1690.wav",
        "text": "所以不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1691.wav",
        "text": "不要以為我們這麼喜歡講同樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1692.wav",
        "text": "這都是人民的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1693.wav",
        "text": "只是在野黨的委員非常遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1694.wav",
        "text": "你們拒絕傾聽如此而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1695.wav",
        "text": "所以希望這樣子的議案沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1696.wav",
        "text": "不要逕行去院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1697.wav",
        "text": "這是立法院這一屆要交出來的立法成績單嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1698.wav",
        "text": "就是閹割了民權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1699.wav",
        "text": "這是我們這一屆的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1700.wav",
        "text": "再次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1701.wav",
        "text": "耐煩而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1702.wav",
        "text": "如果不耐煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1703.wav",
        "text": "不要當黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1704.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1705.wav",
        "text": "接下來請林思銘書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1706.wav",
        "text": "我想今天談的是加嚴的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1707.wav",
        "text": "這個版本我們也開了好多次的協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1708.wav",
        "text": "其實我們還是要很慎重的跟全國的民眾來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1709.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要立這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1710.wav",
        "text": "\n針對加嚴的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1711.wav",
        "text": "我們一再強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1712.wav",
        "text": "這個不是沒收民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1713.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有違反民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1714.wav",
        "text": "就是讓我們身分證的影印本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1715.wav",
        "text": "在連署的程序中要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1716.wav",
        "text": "並且加註登記日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1717.wav",
        "text": "其實是真正的去體現民主的真諦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1718.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在看到這些連署書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1719.wav",
        "text": "很多都是冒名連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1720.wav",
        "text": "連死人都可以被冒名連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1721.wav",
        "text": "還有很多偽造的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1722.wav",
        "text": "這絕對不是民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1723.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1724.wav",
        "text": "提出這樣的修正版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1725.wav",
        "text": "甚至於民進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1726.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的吳秉叡委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1727.wav",
        "text": "都有相關相同的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1728.wav",
        "text": "而且民進黨委員有很多連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1729.wav",
        "text": "怎麼現在你們會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1730.wav",
        "text": "這個叫沒收民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1731.wav",
        "text": "那你們過去呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1732.wav",
        "text": "你們認為過去你們不是沒收民主嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1733.wav",
        "text": "所以這個論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1734.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1735.wav",
        "text": "沒有所謂沒收民主這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1736.wav",
        "text": "\n其實我們現在反而認為民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1737.wav",
        "text": "選罷法這樣的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1738.wav",
        "text": "你們在怕什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1739.wav",
        "text": "你們是準備大罷免嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1740.wav",
        "text": "選罷法加嚴加密的版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1741.wav",
        "text": "你們是準備要這樣做嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1742.wav",
        "text": "在明年度再度造成我們臺灣民主社會動盪不安嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1743.wav",
        "text": "我真的是要告訴民進黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1744.wav",
        "text": "我們要做對的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1745.wav",
        "text": "我們國家要發展正確的路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1746.wav",
        "text": "不要運用這種大罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1747.wav",
        "text": "來造成我們國家社會動盪不安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1748.wav",
        "text": "造成我們國家公帑的浪費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1749.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1750.wav",
        "text": "我真的不曉得你們在怕什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1751.wav",
        "text": "因為今天談的是加嚴版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1752.wav",
        "text": "連這個版本你們都不願意通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1753.wav",
        "text": "還一再的講我們沒收民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1754.wav",
        "text": "我真的不曉得你們的立論基礎在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1755.wav",
        "text": "過去你們要這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1756.wav",
        "text": "現在你們說不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1757.wav",
        "text": "這麼雙標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1758.wav",
        "text": "所以我真的要鄭重的告訴國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1759.wav",
        "text": "民進黨過去就是支持這樣的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1760.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1761.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1762.wav",
        "text": "接下來請台灣民眾黨黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1763.wav",
        "text": "這個議題基本上今天也不是第一次協商了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1764.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1765.wav",
        "text": "我們也多次的跟社會說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1766.wav",
        "text": "了當然是要傾聽人民的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1767.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天早上也特地開了記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1768.wav",
        "text": "公布了台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1769.wav",
        "text": "自己做民調的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1770.wav",
        "text": "當然有人要質疑我們的民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1771.wav",
        "text": "我們也虛心接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1772.wav",
        "text": "但我們做這個民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1773.wav",
        "text": "基本上就是希望知道社會大眾怎麼想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1774.wav",
        "text": "每一個政黨為自己政黨的立場負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1775.wav",
        "text": "當然是傾聽人民的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1776.wav",
        "text": "這個一點問題都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1777.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個事情是剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1778.wav",
        "text": "剛提到這個主題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1779.wav",
        "text": "有關於在議場內秩序上面的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1780.wav",
        "text": "議場上面秩序的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1781.wav",
        "text": "我覺得如果要針對這些相關的事情做處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1782.wav",
        "text": "看要不要院長再另外找個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1783.wav",
        "text": "來做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1784.wav",
        "text": "裝的都是喇叭鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1785.wav",
        "text": "喇叭鎖不用透過暴力的方式就可以把它打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1786.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果是在這樣的解釋之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1787.wav",
        "text": "似乎也沒有什麼違法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1788.wav",
        "text": "當然我只是反映一種看法而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1789.wav",
        "text": "並不代表這個是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1790.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得立法院裡面的規矩到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1791.wav",
        "text": "可能還是由立法院這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1792.wav",
        "text": "大家看透過一個什麼樣的民主程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1793.wav",
        "text": "把它說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1794.wav",
        "text": "你總不可能有一些事情永遠都是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1795.wav",
        "text": "別人做不行我做可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1796.wav",
        "text": "這樣子我覺得也不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1797.wav",
        "text": "啦\n因為現在就變成像我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1798.wav",
        "text": "來開會的時候門沒開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1799.wav",
        "text": "門沒開我就乖乖的在外面等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1800.wav",
        "text": "等議事人員來開門我再進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1801.wav",
        "text": "是你自己有能力開你就把門打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1802.wav",
        "text": "這樣是沒有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1803.wav",
        "text": "這個可能也要拜託院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1804.wav",
        "text": "因為你總要有一個基本的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1805.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們要的這個規則也就是一個公平的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1806.wav",
        "text": "這個公平的規則是會議室的門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1807.wav",
        "text": "只要我有這個技能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1808.wav",
        "text": "或者是我帶什麼樣的人來可以處理這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1809.wav",
        "text": "就這樣子處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1810.wav",
        "text": "還是有什麼樣其他的指示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1811.wav",
        "text": "是不是也可以請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1812.wav",
        "text": "讓大家知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1813.wav",
        "text": "要不然的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1814.wav",
        "text": "每次我很早來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1815.wav",
        "text": "我也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1816.wav",
        "text": "都乖乖的等議事人員來開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1817.wav",
        "text": "以後我想開我就自己開就進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1818.wav",
        "text": "這個基本的規則是不是也可以請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1819.wav",
        "text": "來幫大家做個裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1820.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1821.wav",
        "text": "我跟各位黨團幹部報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1822.wav",
        "text": "今天早上已經責成周秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1823.wav",
        "text": "關於各會議室門鎖的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1824.wav",
        "text": "我們要開始進行如何來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1825.wav",
        "text": "各委員會的問政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1826.wav",
        "text": "還是有賴於各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1827.wav",
        "text": "能夠約束一下黨團成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1828.wav",
        "text": "老是聽到不同委員會都有不同爆發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1829.wav",
        "text": "當然正常的攻防論辯大家都是能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1830.wav",
        "text": "的如果過當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1831.wav",
        "text": "可能對於立法院整體來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1832.wav",
        "text": "並不是一件非常好的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1833.wav",
        "text": "這點要請各位黨團幹部無論如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1834.wav",
        "text": "要約束一下所有黨團的委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1835.wav",
        "text": "能夠理性問政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1836.wav",
        "text": "\n關於第一輪的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1837.wav",
        "text": "選罷法上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1838.wav",
        "text": "不急"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1839.wav",
        "text": "急我會再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1840.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1841.wav",
        "text": "不會我要請二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1842.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1843.wav",
        "text": "我跟各黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1844.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1845.wav",
        "text": "王鴻薇你手請先放下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1846.wav",
        "text": "所以劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1847.wav",
        "text": "李主委還有司法院跟法務部代表非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1848.wav",
        "text": "參事都已經發言過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1849.wav",
        "text": "我們今天就"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1850.wav",
        "text": "讓我們黨團幹部進入二輪的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1851.wav",
        "text": "我特別跟兩位部長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1852.wav",
        "text": "要不要再有補充意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1853.wav",
        "text": "好請劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1854.wav",
        "text": "報告院長我比較沒有補充意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1855.wav",
        "text": "我只是有一點不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1856.wav",
        "text": "在進入各個黨團協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1857.wav",
        "text": "是哪幾個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1858.wav",
        "text": "因為同時間在內政委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1859.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1860.wav",
        "text": "不是很清楚現在講的那些條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1861.wav",
        "text": "是不是要所有的條文一併討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1862.wav",
        "text": "就是在會議上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1863.wav",
        "text": "的準備會有點來不及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1864.wav",
        "text": "或是來不及做比較好的論辯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1865.wav",
        "text": "是但是跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1866.wav",
        "text": "因為今天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1867.wav",
        "text": "我們到內政委員會去的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1868.wav",
        "text": "是徐欣瑩召委發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1869.wav",
        "text": "是寫公職人員選罷法的部分條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1870.wav",
        "text": "院長所主持的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1871.wav",
        "text": "不涉及到今天在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1872.wav",
        "text": "所主持的其他條文的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1873.wav",
        "text": "這樣子我們才會比較清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1874.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1875.wav",
        "text": "部長現在就在您手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1876.wav",
        "text": "我們就延續上一次的會議到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1877.wav",
        "text": "就是加嚴加密的這一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1878.wav",
        "text": "跟今天早上內政委員會開的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1879.wav",
        "text": "不是同一個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1880.wav",
        "text": "請參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1881.wav",
        "text": "\n李主委請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1882.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長各黨團的幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1883.wav",
        "text": "中選會就今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1884.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商的這個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1885.wav",
        "text": "版本最主要都是針對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1886.wav",
        "text": "加嚴的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1887.wav",
        "text": "包括要附身分證正反的影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1888.wav",
        "text": "發證的日期等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1889.wav",
        "text": "這些都是對於罷免權的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1890.wav",
        "text": "基於罷免權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1891.wav",
        "text": "是憲法所保障的公民參政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1892.wav",
        "text": "我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1893.wav",
        "text": "在執行上並沒有任何窒礙之處"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1894.wav",
        "text": "也因此"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1895.wav",
        "text": "我們認為不宜在這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1896.wav",
        "text": "來做變更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1897.wav",
        "text": "以上再次地報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1898.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝李主委再一次地說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1899.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1900.wav",
        "text": "大家還有沒有其他寶貴的意見要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1901.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請王鴻薇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1902.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨團二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1903.wav",
        "text": "蔡易餘幹事長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1904.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1905.wav",
        "text": "我們進入的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1906.wav",
        "text": "修正案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1907.wav",
        "text": "我想必須要做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1908.wav",
        "text": "它不是一個加嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1909.wav",
        "text": "加密的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1910.wav",
        "text": "它是一個落實查核的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1911.wav",
        "text": "合先敘明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1912.wav",
        "text": "才有提到在議事上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1913.wav",
        "text": "是不是要有一些規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1914.wav",
        "text": "讓議事能夠順利地進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1915.wav",
        "text": "包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1916.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1917.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1918.wav",
        "text": "指責說今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1919.wav",
        "text": "的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1920.wav",
        "text": "我想要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1921.wav",
        "text": "會議室裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1922.wav",
        "text": "麥克風被砸碎砸爛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1923.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1924.wav",
        "text": "所以我們基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1925.wav",
        "text": "參與的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1926.wav",
        "text": "大家還是有人身安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1927.wav",
        "text": "所以跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1928.wav",
        "text": "未來要不要做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1929.wav",
        "text": "規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1930.wav",
        "text": "我想尊重院長最後的裁示\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1931.wav",
        "text": "但是我也特別要提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1932.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1933.wav",
        "text": "是我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1934.wav",
        "text": "召委我們的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1935.wav",
        "text": "根本沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1936.wav",
        "text": "坐上主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1937.wav",
        "text": "這已經不是第一次發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1938.wav",
        "text": "所以如果我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1939.wav",
        "text": "談到相關的議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1940.wav",
        "text": "議事程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1941.wav",
        "text": "不讓主席坐上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1942.wav",
        "text": "主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1943.wav",
        "text": "連宣告開會都不准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1944.wav",
        "text": "請問一下到底哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1945.wav",
        "text": "比較嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1946.wav",
        "text": "未來要對立法院裡面的議事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1947.wav",
        "text": "做一些規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1948.wav",
        "text": "希望各黨團能遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1949.wav",
        "text": "我想請問自帶麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1950.wav",
        "text": "跟根本不准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1951.wav",
        "text": "主席坐上主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1952.wav",
        "text": "來宣布開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1953.wav",
        "text": "到底是哪一個比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1954.wav",
        "text": "嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1955.wav",
        "text": "更不要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1956.wav",
        "text": "其實今天也發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1957.wav",
        "text": "今天民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1958.wav",
        "text": "為了要杯葛議事的進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1959.wav",
        "text": "聽說4點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1960.wav",
        "text": "就開始甲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1961.wav",
        "text": "我們國民黨團也有這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1962.wav",
        "text": "我們也做甲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1963.wav",
        "text": "但是國民黨團會遵守一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1964.wav",
        "text": "最基本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1965.wav",
        "text": "我們會等到議事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1966.wav",
        "text": "開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1967.wav",
        "text": "我們會在外面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1968.wav",
        "text": "等到議事人員開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1969.wav",
        "text": "我們就是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1970.wav",
        "text": "嘛哪有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1971.wav",
        "text": "什麼半夜去開門的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1972.wav",
        "text": "或者是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1973.wav",
        "text": "喇叭鎖很容易就去開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1974.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團的成員都身懷絕技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1975.wav",
        "text": "很會開鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1976.wav",
        "text": "是不是習慣開鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1977.wav",
        "text": "\n這個是我們比較不習慣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1978.wav",
        "text": "因為即便是喇叭鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1979.wav",
        "text": "有時候我們覺得這就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1980.wav",
        "text": "我們應該遵守的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1981.wav",
        "text": "所以如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1982.wav",
        "text": "作賊的喊捉賊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1983.wav",
        "text": "然後強盜要報警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1984.wav",
        "text": "我不理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1985.wav",
        "text": "但是既然告狀的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1986.wav",
        "text": "剛才院長也有裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1987.wav",
        "text": "秘書長未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1988.wav",
        "text": "會針對喇叭鎖的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1989.wav",
        "text": "我想不只是喇叭鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1990.wav",
        "text": "因為有的還被破壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1991.wav",
        "text": "如果喇叭鎖開不了了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1992.wav",
        "text": "以後還會真的會被破壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1993.wav",
        "text": "過去我們看到被破壞的公物可多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1994.wav",
        "text": "好端端的在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1995.wav",
        "text": "它都可以被砸爛在地上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1996.wav",
        "text": "紀律相關的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1997.wav",
        "text": "如果大家要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1998.wav",
        "text": "一起來討論的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/1999.wav",
        "text": "要跟大家來報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2000.wav",
        "text": "大家各抒己見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2001.wav",
        "text": "但是請保持一定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2002.wav",
        "text": "尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2003.wav",
        "text": "他們今天早上召開了記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2004.wav",
        "text": "也公布了他們的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2005.wav",
        "text": "我要講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2006.wav",
        "text": "是我們不是民意代表嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2007.wav",
        "text": "民意代表嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2008.wav",
        "text": "所主持的民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2009.wav",
        "text": "或者是今天民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2010.wav",
        "text": "所主持的民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2011.wav",
        "text": "在民意的反映上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2012.wav",
        "text": "對於罷免相關的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2013.wav",
        "text": "大家確實覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2014.wav",
        "text": "\n那麼我們今天去反映民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2015.wav",
        "text": "不代表我們去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2016.wav",
        "text": "剝奪什麼公民權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2017.wav",
        "text": "人民的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2018.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是尊重民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2019.wav",
        "text": "終究我們是民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2020.wav",
        "text": "而不是黨意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2021.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2022.wav",
        "text": "\n在蔡易餘書記長發言之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2023.wav",
        "text": "跟黃國昌委員兩位所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2024.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊作一次宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2025.wav",
        "text": "──一個主一個次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2026.wav",
        "text": "我們從主到次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2027.wav",
        "text": "來跟大家宣布一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2028.wav",
        "text": "一有關各委員會會議室的秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2029.wav",
        "text": "再一次拜託各黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2030.wav",
        "text": "能夠約束黨團委員成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2031.wav",
        "text": "維持會議秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2032.wav",
        "text": "這是主次就是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2033.wav",
        "text": "我們今天又發生的這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2034.wav",
        "text": "及上次財委會所發生的這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2035.wav",
        "text": "我們要再一次宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2036.wav",
        "text": "針對麥克風立法院議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2037.wav",
        "text": "安全維護及管理要點第七點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2038.wav",
        "text": "規定會議的時候委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2039.wav",
        "text": "不得攜帶麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2040.wav",
        "text": "這是針對院會的議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2041.wav",
        "text": "不過對於委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2042.wav",
        "text": "會議室的秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2043.wav",
        "text": "我們會尊重各委員會召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2044.wav",
        "text": "的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2045.wav",
        "text": "如果大家能夠秉持理性的問政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2046.wav",
        "text": "沒有破壞麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2047.wav",
        "text": "也沒有占據主席臺的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2048.wav",
        "text": "使用幕僚單位所提供的麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2049.wav",
        "text": "這一點我再重申一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2050.wav",
        "text": "一個主一個次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2051.wav",
        "text": "那在院會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2052.wav",
        "text": "如果需要跟每個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2053.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2054.wav",
        "text": "書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2055.wav",
        "text": "我想剛剛院長只宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2056.wav",
        "text": "院會不能用麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2057.wav",
        "text": "但是委員會麥克風的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2058.wav",
        "text": "是更嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2059.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2060.wav",
        "text": "的第二個我們應該還原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2061.wav",
        "text": "整個立法院朝野的攻防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2062.wav",
        "text": "在2019年5月9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2063.wav",
        "text": "當時立法院內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2064.wav",
        "text": "在排審公投法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2065.wav",
        "text": "那個公投法的修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2066.wav",
        "text": "為了讓公投連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2067.wav",
        "text": "不必附上國民身分證影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2068.wav",
        "text": "這是當時國民黨的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2069.wav",
        "text": "就是在公投連署的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2070.wav",
        "text": "不要附上身分證影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2071.wav",
        "text": "我直接唸這個新聞出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2072.wav",
        "text": "癱瘓一天後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2073.wav",
        "text": "今日清晨5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2074.wav",
        "text": "搖窗進入會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2075.wav",
        "text": "江啟臣副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2076.wav",
        "text": "搖窗進入會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2077.wav",
        "text": "再度成功占領主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2078.wav",
        "text": "這是在清晨5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2079.wav",
        "text": "也在臉書PO出照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2080.wav",
        "text": "他說捍衛民權不能懶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2081.wav",
        "text": "公投修法反獨裁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2082.wav",
        "text": "所以他在當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2083.wav",
        "text": "認為附上身分證影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2084.wav",
        "text": "就是沒有捍衛民權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2085.wav",
        "text": "事實上當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2086.wav",
        "text": "江啟臣副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2087.wav",
        "text": "利用搖窗的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2088.wav",
        "text": "占領主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2089.wav",
        "text": "民進黨立委在上午7時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2090.wav",
        "text": "陸續進入會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2091.wav",
        "text": "這是在2019年的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2092.wav",
        "text": "那在2018年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2093.wav",
        "text": "1月5號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2094.wav",
        "text": "當時這個是在議場的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2095.wav",
        "text": "下午2時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2096.wav",
        "text": "52分立法院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2097.wav",
        "text": "蘇嘉全宣布散會後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2098.wav",
        "text": "國民黨立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2099.wav",
        "text": "跟議場內的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2100.wav",
        "text": "時代力量委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2101.wav",
        "text": "當時應該是時代力量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2102.wav",
        "text": "主席徐永明號召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2103.wav",
        "text": "他們5人持螺絲起子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2104.wav",
        "text": "保溫杯破壞議場門栓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2105.wav",
        "text": "以及防破玻璃後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2106.wav",
        "text": "以大鎖鐵鍊將門鎖鎖上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2107.wav",
        "text": "形同自囚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2108.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在要說的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2109.wav",
        "text": "這個都是議事攻防的歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2110.wav",
        "text": "會有議事攻防這個議事攻防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2111.wav",
        "text": "在當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2112.wav",
        "text": "國民黨做這樣的議事攻防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2113.wav",
        "text": "他在5點搖窗進入議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2114.wav",
        "text": "也是進到議場裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2115.wav",
        "text": "他就是為了不要讓公投法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2116.wav",
        "text": "修惡在當年時代力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2117.wav",
        "text": "也有他們對於勞基法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2118.wav",
        "text": "的一些訴求所以他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2119.wav",
        "text": "也是希望去占領了議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2120.wav",
        "text": "都會有這樣的攻防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2121.wav",
        "text": "今天民進黨我們之所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2122.wav",
        "text": "要在內政委員會提早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2123.wav",
        "text": "我們也是避免選罷法被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2124.wav",
        "text": "修惡\n我想要跟院長反映的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2125.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們現在陷入一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2126.wav",
        "text": "很矛盾的狀況因為我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2127.wav",
        "text": "這個時候朝野協商正在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2128.wav",
        "text": "主持我們連署加嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2129.wav",
        "text": "我們連署要附上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2130.wav",
        "text": "身分證的影本我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2131.wav",
        "text": "再贅述了但是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2132.wav",
        "text": "同時在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2133.wav",
        "text": "卻有在處理另外一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2134.wav",
        "text": "我們看到比較嚴重的大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2135.wav",
        "text": "是那一個罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2136.wav",
        "text": "同意票要大於當選的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2137.wav",
        "text": "票數那個無疑是讓未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2138.wav",
        "text": "罷免要成功的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2139.wav",
        "text": "變得非常的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2140.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為這兩個效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2141.wav",
        "text": "會造成剝奪人民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2142.wav",
        "text": "現在有一個重點如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2143.wav",
        "text": "繼續討論的話我們有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2144.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五就要先處理這一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2145.wav",
        "text": "有可能禮拜五這一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2146.wav",
        "text": "案要進入二讀三讀但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2147.wav",
        "text": "在內政委員會卻還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2148.wav",
        "text": "一案選罷法一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2149.wav",
        "text": "是會造成剝奪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2150.wav",
        "text": "人民的罷免權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2151.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2152.wav",
        "text": "既然國民黨都要排案然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2153.wav",
        "text": "委員會在排現在朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2154.wav",
        "text": "協商也有一個選罷法那我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2155.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不要在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2156.wav",
        "text": "整個程序完備一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2157.wav",
        "text": "審理的時候再來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2158.wav",
        "text": "現在有不同版本的疊加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2159.wav",
        "text": "\n我要跟院長講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2160.wav",
        "text": "基本上用身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2161.wav",
        "text": "會造成罷免提案的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2162.wav",
        "text": "得票數一樣會造成困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2163.wav",
        "text": "疊加起來又變得更困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2164.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2165.wav",
        "text": "不能把它拆開處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2166.wav",
        "text": "我不知道這個拆開處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2167.wav",
        "text": "是國民黨還是民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2168.wav",
        "text": "的想法還是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2169.wav",
        "text": "但是我們早上也有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2170.wav",
        "text": "像麥玉珍委員她有舉著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2171.wav",
        "text": "反對門檻加高嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2172.wav",
        "text": "如果她也反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2173.wav",
        "text": "門檻加高的話是不是未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2174.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個要合併討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2175.wav",
        "text": "而不是我們現在先討論一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2176.wav",
        "text": "然後這一項可能在禮拜五的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2177.wav",
        "text": "就被表決然後這一案就結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2178.wav",
        "text": "未來又跑出一個門檻加高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2179.wav",
        "text": "把它拆開處理我認為是不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2180.wav",
        "text": "對人民不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2181.wav",
        "text": "因為它需要一併處理就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2182.wav",
        "text": "到底怎麼做是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2183.wav",
        "text": "合理的罷免制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2184.wav",
        "text": "這個罷免制度讓人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2185.wav",
        "text": "還是有辦法行使罷免權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2186.wav",
        "text": "同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2187.wav",
        "text": "這個罷免制度也不會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2188.wav",
        "text": "所謂濫行罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2189.wav",
        "text": "會不會有去發動罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2190.wav",
        "text": "誰我覺得這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2191.wav",
        "text": "都是政黨政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2192.wav",
        "text": "政黨如果說我們去罷免誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2193.wav",
        "text": "後來造成了很多民怨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2194.wav",
        "text": "造成大家覺得勞民傷財"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2195.wav",
        "text": "但是你不能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2196.wav",
        "text": "這個制度嚴格到人民還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2197.wav",
        "text": "行使的時候你就跟他說不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2198.wav",
        "text": "我把門檻加高讓你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2199.wav",
        "text": "根本沒辦法成案根本沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2200.wav",
        "text": "行使罷免權好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2201.wav",
        "text": "謝謝蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2202.wav",
        "text": "書記長的發言張宏陸委員跟許宇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2203.wav",
        "text": "甄委員我知道你們舉手要發言稍待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2204.wav",
        "text": "一下\n蔡易餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2205.wav",
        "text": "委員民進黨黨團作了二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2206.wav",
        "text": "等一下請國民黨黨團跟台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2207.wav",
        "text": "也做二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2208.wav",
        "text": "但是在中間我卡一段話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2209.wav",
        "text": "剛剛已經宣告開會理性問政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2210.wav",
        "text": "之外還有一個非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2211.wav",
        "text": "的大家試想一下昨天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2212.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院邀請行政院長來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2213.wav",
        "text": "追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2214.wav",
        "text": "大家想想看立法院的現場畫面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2215.wav",
        "text": "全場到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2216.wav",
        "text": "沒有委員在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2217.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院請行政院長來專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2218.wav",
        "text": "大家代表很慎重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2219.wav",
        "text": "行政院長也帶了財政部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2220.wav",
        "text": "也帶了主計長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2221.wav",
        "text": "很正規來報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2222.wav",
        "text": "告然後我們一個委員都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2223.wav",
        "text": "你們回去一定要派出輪值委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2224.wav",
        "text": "實在是太難看了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2225.wav",
        "text": "我實在不想講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2226.wav",
        "text": "搞到最後一個陳永康委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2227.wav",
        "text": "一個王正旭委員我還特別去謝謝他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2228.wav",
        "text": "謝謝你們兩位老人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2229.wav",
        "text": "龜鶴二仙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2230.wav",
        "text": "你們千萬不能離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2231.wav",
        "text": "這個畫面能看嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2232.wav",
        "text": "尤其在審查法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2233.wav",
        "text": "要二讀三讀時每一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2234.wav",
        "text": "一個委員都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2235.wav",
        "text": "我實在是不好意思講就只有王正旭老人家坐在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2236.wav",
        "text": "我真的是太感謝他了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2237.wav",
        "text": "不然的話就空城計啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2238.wav",
        "text": "你們都有不分區的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2239.wav",
        "text": "請他們輪值嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2240.wav",
        "text": "這個一樣政黨比例221"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2241.wav",
        "text": "這一定要有硬性規定嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2242.wav",
        "text": "拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2243.wav",
        "text": "\n好接下來請台灣民眾黨黨團跟國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2244.wav",
        "text": "你不要走心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2245.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2246.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2247.wav",
        "text": "罷免門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2248.wav",
        "text": "的修正本黨也多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2249.wav",
        "text": "多次表態我們的主席在的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2250.wav",
        "text": "也已經講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2251.wav",
        "text": "罷免門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2252.wav",
        "text": "今天我們也開了記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2253.wav",
        "text": "我也到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2254.wav",
        "text": "我們是反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2255.wav",
        "text": "因為本黨認為公職人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2256.wav",
        "text": "重罷免是要淘汰不適當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2257.wav",
        "text": "官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2258.wav",
        "text": "對不對現在變成政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2259.wav",
        "text": "動員的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2260.wav",
        "text": "所以媒體提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2261.wav",
        "text": "現在是罷免的時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2262.wav",
        "text": "顯示目前臺灣的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2263.wav",
        "text": "不喜歡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2264.wav",
        "text": "這個議案我就罷免你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2265.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的仇恨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2266.wav",
        "text": "被罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2267.wav",
        "text": "保護人民的公民權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2268.wav",
        "text": "所以我也講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2269.wav",
        "text": "公民權就是人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2270.wav",
        "text": "選舉的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2271.wav",
        "text": "但罷免的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2272.wav",
        "text": "同樣很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2273.wav",
        "text": "所以都要身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2274.wav",
        "text": "這樣對選舉的人也才公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2275.wav",
        "text": "一票一票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2276.wav",
        "text": "選上就要對這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2277.wav",
        "text": "些支持你的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2278.wav",
        "text": "今天針對這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2279.wav",
        "text": "今天是今天的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2280.wav",
        "text": "不要扯到早上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2281.wav",
        "text": "罷免連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2282.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2283.wav",
        "text": "提高至於早上的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2284.wav",
        "text": "我們不支持我們都講得很清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2285.wav",
        "text": "拜託民進黨不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2286.wav",
        "text": "怕說表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2287.wav",
        "text": "時我們是不是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2288.wav",
        "text": "從我們主席在的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2289.wav",
        "text": "我們就是這樣表態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2290.wav",
        "text": "到現在百分之百"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2291.wav",
        "text": "沒有變好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2292.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2293.wav",
        "text": "然後張宏陸跟許宇甄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2294.wav",
        "text": "兩位委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2295.wav",
        "text": "我要再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2296.wav",
        "text": "今天我們所協調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2297.wav",
        "text": "有關於核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2298.wav",
        "text": "核實落實查核的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2299.wav",
        "text": "或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2300.wav",
        "text": "現在排進內政委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2301.wav",
        "text": "希望追求票票等值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2302.wav",
        "text": "不要成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2303.wav",
        "text": "少數罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2304.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都是衡諸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2305.wav",
        "text": "現在民意的一個歸向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2306.wav",
        "text": "剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2307.wav",
        "text": "過去在修公投法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2308.wav",
        "text": "有關身分證影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2309.wav",
        "text": "當時國民黨有反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2310.wav",
        "text": "這是基本事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2311.wav",
        "text": "我不會去反駁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2312.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也曾經提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2313.wav",
        "text": "就是有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2314.wav",
        "text": "選罷法的修正譬如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2315.wav",
        "text": "如之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2316.wav",
        "text": "幹事長的共同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2317.wav",
        "text": "事實上應該是在4月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2318.wav",
        "text": "但後來他們撤案了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2319.wav",
        "text": "我們也予以尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2320.wav",
        "text": "但你有沒有版本就是有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2321.wav",
        "text": "我們不要去爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2322.wav",
        "text": "我們只要這種客觀的事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2323.wav",
        "text": "所以即便是委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2324.wav",
        "text": "委員自己提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2325.wav",
        "text": "了不起半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2326.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n事實上撤案的時間更早"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2327.wav",
        "text": "他可能都衡酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2328.wav",
        "text": "我不知道是來自於選民的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2329.wav",
        "text": "或者來自於政黨的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2330.wav",
        "text": "我都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2331.wav",
        "text": "你也有撤案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2332.wav",
        "text": "嘛也就是說不管是委員個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2333.wav",
        "text": "或者是政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2334.wav",
        "text": "對於選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2335.wav",
        "text": "的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2336.wav",
        "text": "或者對於罷免制度的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2337.wav",
        "text": "我們本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2338.wav",
        "text": "隨現在民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2339.wav",
        "text": "尤其在這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2340.wav",
        "text": "謝國樑市長罷免案之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2341.wav",
        "text": "我們確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2342.wav",
        "text": "收到很多民眾的反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2343.wav",
        "text": "動不動就罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2344.wav",
        "text": "一個市長他上任一年多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2345.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2346.wav",
        "text": "錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2347.wav",
        "text": "只是因為一個東岸商場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2348.wav",
        "text": "東岸商場在法律面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2349.wav",
        "text": "基隆市政府完全站得住腳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2350.wav",
        "text": "就因為東岸商場的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2351.wav",
        "text": "就開始發動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2352.wav",
        "text": "這樣的罷免對一個市長來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2353.wav",
        "text": "他其實要分神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2354.wav",
        "text": "而沒有辦法專注在市政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2355.wav",
        "text": "所以在謝國樑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2356.wav",
        "text": "市長罷免案之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2357.wav",
        "text": "接到很多很多民眾的反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2358.wav",
        "text": "需要這樣勞民傷財嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2359.wav",
        "text": "需要這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2360.wav",
        "text": "製造社會的對立嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2361.wav",
        "text": "需要這樣去撕裂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2362.wav",
        "text": "社會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2363.wav",
        "text": "罷免需要這麼浮濫嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2364.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛才也特別講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2365.wav",
        "text": "剛才麥玉珍委員特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2366.wav",
        "text": "就是有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2367.wav",
        "text": "我們現在排入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2368.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2369.wav",
        "text": "已經不只一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2370.wav",
        "text": "對外宣布說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2371.wav",
        "text": "他們並不支持這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2372.wav",
        "text": "我想各政黨我們尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2373.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2374.wav",
        "text": "我想今天他們花錢做民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2375.wav",
        "text": "他們犯不著幫國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2376.wav",
        "text": "做這個民調吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2377.wav",
        "text": "比如說我們落實查核版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2378.wav",
        "text": "在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2379.wav",
        "text": "版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2380.wav",
        "text": "60%的民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2381.wav",
        "text": "認為是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2382.wav",
        "text": "最後的罷免票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2383.wav",
        "text": "起碼要比他的當選票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2384.wav",
        "text": "這個民眾黨不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2385.wav",
        "text": "也有超過五成的人是支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2386.wav",
        "text": "我剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2387.wav",
        "text": "剛剛才知道今天他們開了記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2388.wav",
        "text": "我們之前也沒有拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2389.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨幫我們做這個民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2390.wav",
        "text": "來支持我們一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2391.wav",
        "text": "我們完全不知道啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2392.wav",
        "text": "他剛才不講我們完全不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2393.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2394.wav",
        "text": "看到最近的民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2395.wav",
        "text": "版本至少我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2396.wav",
        "text": "確實民眾對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2397.wav",
        "text": "無止無盡莫名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2398.wav",
        "text": "其妙或者是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2399.wav",
        "text": "氾濫的罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2400.wav",
        "text": "也認為不應該過於氾濫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2401.wav",
        "text": "所以我們提出這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2402.wav",
        "text": "的相關修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2403.wav",
        "text": "\n我要特別講到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2404.wav",
        "text": "委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2405.wav",
        "text": "有提案權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2406.wav",
        "text": "政黨也有提案權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2407.wav",
        "text": "我沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2408.wav",
        "text": "黨的幹部說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2409.wav",
        "text": "今天為什麼要霸占主席臺呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2410.wav",
        "text": "因為我們怕修惡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2411.wav",
        "text": "所以你覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2412.wav",
        "text": "這個法不應該修的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2413.wav",
        "text": "你就合理化去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2414.wav",
        "text": "強占主席臺嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2415.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2416.wav",
        "text": "如果今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2417.wav",
        "text": "任何一個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2418.wav",
        "text": "都因為我覺得你這樣的修法不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2419.wav",
        "text": "不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2420.wav",
        "text": "我根本不給你開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2421.wav",
        "text": "遑論討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2422.wav",
        "text": "不是說沒有討論沒有民主嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2423.wav",
        "text": "不是說要討論嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2424.wav",
        "text": "委員中心制啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2425.wav",
        "text": "委員會要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2426.wav",
        "text": "啊其實包含今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2427.wav",
        "text": "這個直接逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2428.wav",
        "text": "然後我們現在拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2429.wav",
        "text": "大家在協商的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2430.wav",
        "text": "也是兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2431.wav",
        "text": "在內政委員會開會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2432.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2433.wav",
        "text": "占主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2434.wav",
        "text": "啊兩次都是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2435.wav",
        "text": "啊我們都是要來排討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2436.wav",
        "text": "不給開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2437.wav",
        "text": "所以我完全沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2438.wav",
        "text": "說因為你們怕修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2439.wav",
        "text": "民意不是這樣子講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2440.wav",
        "text": "啊怎麼樣你們大於民意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2441.wav",
        "text": "然後就不給開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2442.wav",
        "text": "還可以這樣子理直氣壯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2443.wav",
        "text": "然後這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2444.wav",
        "text": "覺得合理化這樣子罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2445.wav",
        "text": "主席臺的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2446.wav",
        "text": "我覺得期期以為不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2447.wav",
        "text": "所以在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2448.wav",
        "text": "大家各抒己見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2449.wav",
        "text": "然後我們真的應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2450.wav",
        "text": "回歸到議事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2451.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼處理就怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2452.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n接下來張宏陸委員發言許宇甄委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2453.wav",
        "text": "拜託一下掌握一下時間謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2454.wav",
        "text": "剛剛大家一直在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2455.wav",
        "text": "2019年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2456.wav",
        "text": "其實那時候我就是內政委員會的召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2457.wav",
        "text": "我一直覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2458.wav",
        "text": "要多我覺得其實都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2459.wav",
        "text": "就是都沒有理性地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2460.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這才是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2461.wav",
        "text": "那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2462.wav",
        "text": "2019的時候後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2463.wav",
        "text": "我也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2464.wav",
        "text": "不用強去這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2465.wav",
        "text": "為什麼院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2466.wav",
        "text": "你用身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2467.wav",
        "text": "影印本其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2468.wav",
        "text": "最落伍的方式了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2469.wav",
        "text": "因為有個資外洩或是什麼樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2470.wav",
        "text": "其實有其他的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2471.wav",
        "text": "並不一定是要身分證影印本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2472.wav",
        "text": "比如說有的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2473.wav",
        "text": "提出用身分證的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2474.wav",
        "text": "發證日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2475.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2476.wav",
        "text": "或者有很多的我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2477.wav",
        "text": "你去看銀行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2478.wav",
        "text": "它為了審查你的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2479.wav",
        "text": "它有很多種方法也不用你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2480.wav",
        "text": "提供身分證的影印本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2481.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要用最落伍的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2482.wav",
        "text": "方式我覺得這點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2483.wav",
        "text": "是要討論的不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2484.wav",
        "text": "立法出來被人家笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2485.wav",
        "text": "這也是立法院立法的品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2486.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2487.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得這個真的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2488.wav",
        "text": "啦同樣的今天我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2489.wav",
        "text": "我也認為這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2490.wav",
        "text": "不是不可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2491.wav",
        "text": "但其實我反對用這一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2492.wav",
        "text": "最落伍的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2493.wav",
        "text": "我們去看銀行去看什麼其實有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2494.wav",
        "text": "很多種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2495.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以去討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2496.wav",
        "text": "另外這一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2497.wav",
        "text": "跟今天在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2498.wav",
        "text": "後來沒有審的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2499.wav",
        "text": "其實兩個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2500.wav",
        "text": "有相關聯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2501.wav",
        "text": "也沒急迫到這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2502.wav",
        "text": "兩個可以合在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2503.wav",
        "text": "併在一起好好去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2504.wav",
        "text": "這是我今天要跟院長您報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2505.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該是要這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2506.wav",
        "text": "開會到現在最斯文的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2507.wav",
        "text": "就是我們張宏陸委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2508.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n我們請許宇甄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2509.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2510.wav",
        "text": "我應該會是更斯文的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2511.wav",
        "text": "要繳交身分證影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2512.wav",
        "text": "連署的部分主要就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2513.wav",
        "text": "其實現在連署的這些錯假連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2514.wav",
        "text": "然後抄名冊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2515.wav",
        "text": "死亡連署的狀況非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2516.wav",
        "text": "我來唸一段文字給大家聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2517.wav",
        "text": "就是罷免案出現上千"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2518.wav",
        "text": "份的死亡連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2519.wav",
        "text": "顯見出現有心人士持大量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2520.wav",
        "text": "個人資料假冒提議連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2521.wav",
        "text": "且隱含的假冒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2522.wav",
        "text": "份數恐為死亡連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2523.wav",
        "text": "的數倍以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2524.wav",
        "text": "雖然經戶政系統查對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2525.wav",
        "text": "可以刪除亡者連署的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2526.wav",
        "text": "畸形連署書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2527.wav",
        "text": "但卻無法比對查核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2528.wav",
        "text": "未死亡的冒名連署狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2529.wav",
        "text": "這段話我非常的認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2530.wav",
        "text": "這段文字是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2531.wav",
        "text": "吳秉叡委員跟蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2532.wav",
        "text": "當然他這個提案是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2533.wav",
        "text": "指要求罷免連署人需填寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2534.wav",
        "text": "身分證的換發日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2535.wav",
        "text": "為什麼有這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2536.wav",
        "text": "雖然他現在撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2537.wav",
        "text": "他在4月3號提案現在撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2538.wav",
        "text": "最重要不就是覺得死亡連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2539.wav",
        "text": "的問題非常的嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2540.wav",
        "text": "所以才提出這樣的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2541.wav",
        "text": "還有包括上一屆有一些委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2542.wav",
        "text": "他們也認為公投法這樣錯假連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2543.wav",
        "text": "抄名冊連署的狀況非常的嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2544.wav",
        "text": "包括蘇巧慧跟王美惠委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2545.wav",
        "text": "他們也是要求連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2546.wav",
        "text": "人要附國民身分證的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2547.wav",
        "text": "正反面影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2548.wav",
        "text": "當時吳思瑤委員也有連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2549.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為以這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2550.wav",
        "text": "說這是一個落伍的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2551.wav",
        "text": "作法可是實際上民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2552.wav",
        "text": "的委員也都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2553.wav",
        "text": "而且我們最近就有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2554.wav",
        "text": "選舉的時候有獨立參選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2555.wav",
        "text": "郭台銘他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2556.wav",
        "text": "附身分證影本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2557.wav",
        "text": "當時大概有超過百萬的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2558.wav",
        "text": "作法為什麼還是要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2559.wav",
        "text": "這樣的連署而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2560.wav",
        "text": "這是百萬的連署當時也沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2561.wav",
        "text": "人提到有資安的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2562.wav",
        "text": "當時中選會內政部都沒有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2563.wav",
        "text": "剛剛所提到這些其實都不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2564.wav",
        "text": "我們的目的是剛剛中選會李主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2565.wav",
        "text": "也講到選舉罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2566.wav",
        "text": "是重要的公民權所以一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2567.wav",
        "text": "很嚴謹我們的目的就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2568.wav",
        "text": "我的這個提案是希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2569.wav",
        "text": "附上身分證影本謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2570.wav",
        "text": "謝謝許宇甄委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2571.wav",
        "text": "各三個黨團所討論的沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2572.wav",
        "text": "達成共識我們再次謝謝內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2573.wav",
        "text": "劉部長中選會李主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2574.wav",
        "text": "還有司法院法務部列席的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2575.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝大家\n沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16291/2576.wav",
        "text": "我們剩下就依議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/0.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/1.wav",
        "text": "案除了委員會審查的10個版本以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/2.wav",
        "text": "尚有本院郭國文委員等17人擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/3.wav",
        "text": "證券交易稅條例第2條之2條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/4.wav",
        "text": "請審議案（逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/5.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表政府官員還有財政部莊部長分別就本次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/6.wav",
        "text": "協商主題證券交易稅條例第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/7.wav",
        "text": "之2及第十二條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/8.wav",
        "text": "等案審查會保留第2條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/9.wav",
        "text": "及第十六條條文表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/10.wav",
        "text": "來請羅明才委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/11.wav",
        "text": "從過去開始實施到現在待會請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/12.wav",
        "text": "部長回答一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/13.wav",
        "text": "當沖降稅對稅收來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/14.wav",
        "text": "我們的稅收是增加還是減少增加的部分大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/15.wav",
        "text": "為配合金管會彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/16.wav",
        "text": "發展亞洲資產管理中心的願景所以本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/17.wav",
        "text": "提案當沖降稅延長5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/18.wav",
        "text": "是給予支持因為現在國際情勢動盪不安川普又當選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/19.wav",
        "text": "我們希望有更穩定的稅制以免造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/20.wav",
        "text": "我在這裡也要說明如果5年大家願意支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/21.wav",
        "text": "那就通過5年如果5年不支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/22.wav",
        "text": "退而求其次說必須一定要3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/23.wav",
        "text": "我也表示支持所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/24.wav",
        "text": "召委我可以先行告退了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/25.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝明才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/26.wav",
        "text": "接著請黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/27.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委我們台灣民眾黨在提案的時候也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/28.wav",
        "text": "就是到底當沖降稅是不是常態化還是希望政府部門是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/29.wav",
        "text": "很明確的態度第二個如果真的要延的話因為已經延過兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/30.wav",
        "text": "接下去要繼續延我們也希望它是一個遞減的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/31.wav",
        "text": "但是我也知道因為現在國際經濟狀況不明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/32.wav",
        "text": "對於臺灣來說雖然當沖降稅的確是讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/33.wav",
        "text": "的證交稅減少了但是也因為交易量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/34.wav",
        "text": "增加了當然也有很多的稅收重點是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/35.wav",
        "text": "剛剛還有跟副主委這邊說我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/36.wav",
        "text": "將來3年後的檢討如果你真的要再延3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/37.wav",
        "text": "你還是要有個檢討這個檢討的指標是什麼每一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/38.wav",
        "text": "還有為什麼要當沖降稅的這些指標現在可能就要把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/39.wav",
        "text": "又有兩派的意見然後互相的拉扯我覺得也沒什麼必要就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/40.wav",
        "text": "你把降稅――因為稅制本就存在你要降你要有理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/41.wav",
        "text": "嘛那就很清楚充分的告訴大家那個理由如果你一直在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/42.wav",
        "text": "降那就直接告訴我們不要那個稅為什麼又要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/43.wav",
        "text": "定那個稅然後又要一直降這個怪怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/44.wav",
        "text": "如果要做那就把它明確化明文化或制度化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/45.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分今天如果要簡單說3年是一個指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/46.wav",
        "text": "的話我覺得第四年第五年我也認為應該現在就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/47.wav",
        "text": "把第四年第五年講清楚之後就是遞減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/48.wav",
        "text": "郭國文委員的提案是2年然後就不准再延我們是說你要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/49.wav",
        "text": "不延也可以但是慢慢的降回去將來就不延了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/50.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個也需要金管會跟財政部表明立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/51.wav",
        "text": "要很清楚的表達到底你評估的方式是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/52.wav",
        "text": "然後指標理由是什麼\n如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/53.wav",
        "text": "我們就不支持你又繼續降然後每3年就送一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/54.wav",
        "text": "案子來這邊好像擋的就是壞人擋的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/55.wav",
        "text": "就應該是穩定的長遠的訂定出來的標準就按照那個標準來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/56.wav",
        "text": "而不是每天用買菜的方式這個同意那個不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/57.wav",
        "text": "我覺得那樣不好而且重要的是我們要因應國際社會的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/58.wav",
        "text": "我們的指標是什麼可能訂定出來比較好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/59.wav",
        "text": "珊接著請郭國文委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/60.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我想當沖降稅的重點不是降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/61.wav",
        "text": "當初之所以談當沖降稅是為了造市而降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/62.wav",
        "text": "我記得沒有錯的話交易量是從300多億降到100多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/63.wav",
        "text": "大家就非常緊張問題是現在已經400多億了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/64.wav",
        "text": "到底你要造市造到什麼階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/65.wav",
        "text": "明明政策目標已經達到了造市機制就應該要退場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/66.wav",
        "text": "不但延長甚至還要加碼想要把它法制化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/67.wav",
        "text": "當沖降稅理當就應該退場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/68.wav",
        "text": "那也很簡單對不對業者自己可以免手續費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/69.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要減少國家的稅收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/70.wav",
        "text": "而且當沖降稅你降稅的結果是什麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/71.wav",
        "text": "老實講你沖兩次不就又回來了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/72.wav",
        "text": "你到底有沒有降到稅啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/73.wav",
        "text": "大家就很用力沖股市更加震盪不安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/74.wav",
        "text": "如果就剛剛羅委員的講法歹勢不是給你吐槽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/75.wav",
        "text": "如果真的要股市安定的話千萬不要當沖因為當沖成本很低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/76.wav",
        "text": "大家更加一直沖川普的問題不是在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/77.wav",
        "text": "所以我這一次之所以會提出延長2年我是不得已的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/78.wav",
        "text": "基本上要馬上落日又很困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/79.wav",
        "text": "延長1年好像又太快只好2年2年以後下不為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/80.wav",
        "text": "這就是我的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/81.wav",
        "text": "我們民進黨是3年我是2年民進黨又不是一言堂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/82.wav",
        "text": "不會啦不是一言堂像我跟國文委員的主張就不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/83.wav",
        "text": "我跟財政部跟金管會也不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/84.wav",
        "text": "其實此案好像大概每三四年就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/85.wav",
        "text": "修一次我們這一次的版本是延長3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/86.wav",
        "text": "到2027年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/87.wav",
        "text": "我的版本是4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/88.wav",
        "text": "我的4年不是把金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/89.wav",
        "text": "財政部加起來5加3除以2等於4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/90.wav",
        "text": "我主要是考慮到如果我們是延到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/91.wav",
        "text": "2027年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/92.wav",
        "text": "2027年底那時候大家一定又會針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/93.wav",
        "text": "再吵一次我相信在那時候的選舉氛圍下大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/94.wav",
        "text": "延長的機會也很大我就想那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/95.wav",
        "text": "要不然就採取一個折衷的方式我們是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/96.wav",
        "text": "延長4年到2028年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/97.wav",
        "text": "至少避開2027年總統大選的那個時段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/98.wav",
        "text": "如果賴總統繼續連任當然院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/99.wav",
        "text": "有可能會換人到時候再來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/100.wav",
        "text": "這個法看要怎麼修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/101.wav",
        "text": "比較可長可久不然我們這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/102.wav",
        "text": "大概34年就修一次34年就修一次我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/103.wav",
        "text": "既然現在財政部跟金管會已經達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/104.wav",
        "text": "2年有2年的說法當然我4年有4年的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/105.wav",
        "text": "就看大家能不能談出一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/106.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝坤城李坤城委員的是4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/107.wav",
        "text": "羅明才委員的是5年珊珊委員的是階梯式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/108.wav",
        "text": "遞減郭國文委員的是2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/109.wav",
        "text": "加落日條款加落日條款請財政部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/110.wav",
        "text": "我們的當沖降稅從106年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/111.wav",
        "text": "實施以來已經看到它的效果第一個提升了市場的成交量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/112.wav",
        "text": "跟流動性投資人的相關交易成本也有所下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/113.wav",
        "text": "法律上因為到今年年底屆期其實我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/114.wav",
        "text": "在半年前就開始跟金管會溝通包括資料的提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/115.wav",
        "text": "或相互的討論我們認為證券市場容易受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/116.wav",
        "text": "穩定的發展還有降低市場的不確定性我們認為這個當沖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/117.wav",
        "text": "當然委員都有不同的意見譬如我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/118.wav",
        "text": "院版本經過討論以後認為還是以3年為宜因為之前的延長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/119.wav",
        "text": "第二次是3年我們認為就不要比這個更長在3年期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/120.wav",
        "text": "屆滿之前可以再做一次檢討如果把它縮短為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/121.wav",
        "text": "2年的話那可能實施1年以後就要開始進行相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/122.wav",
        "text": "檢討稅式支出評估整個期限比較短對於投資人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/123.wav",
        "text": "來說可能覺得不確定性過高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/124.wav",
        "text": "2年的原因那5年可能又有一些長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/125.wav",
        "text": "為什麼因為其實經濟情勢的變化有時候是滿快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/126.wav",
        "text": "的延到5年的時候事實上要到4年以後才會去檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/127.wav",
        "text": "黨委員這邊所提出來的是階梯式的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/128.wav",
        "text": "也就是前三年是用1.5第4年跟第5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/129.wav",
        "text": "國際政經情勢的情況大家也許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/130.wav",
        "text": "現在可以做一些預測預期但是事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/131.wav",
        "text": "到那個時候再檢討會比較好現在就直接把它訂成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/132.wav",
        "text": "3年是多少然後第4年是多少第5年是多少缺乏這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/133.wav",
        "text": "一定期間內就可以做一些評估跟檢討的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/134.wav",
        "text": "可以支持院版就是延長的期間是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/135.wav",
        "text": "為宜以上說明好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/136.wav",
        "text": "來表達一下是金管會也是支持行政院的原案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/137.wav",
        "text": "那當然我們常常說光譜的兩端2年到5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/138.wav",
        "text": "不算真正慣例的慣例就是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/139.wav",
        "text": "其實國文委員的說法我們真的也能理解或是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/140.wav",
        "text": "真的這樣子一直延一直延永遠的1.5也是很奇怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/141.wav",
        "text": "一個明確的落日條款或這一些的確我們到那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/142.wav",
        "text": "假設情勢快速的演變我們要再去修法說實話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/143.wav",
        "text": "而且我們覺得這種當沖降稅當沖本來是中性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/144.wav",
        "text": "的而降或不降其實變成一種訊號理論就是我們政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/145.wav",
        "text": "我很擔心這種東西我們隨時發出一個什麼訊號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/146.wav",
        "text": "會再加上國際情勢是不穩定的當然還有一點可以贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/147.wav",
        "text": "我們會把這個因素以及要件明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/148.wav",
        "text": "請國文針對剛剛陳副主委說的訊號理論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/149.wav",
        "text": "對確實是一個訊號是什麼訊號呢就是股市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/150.wav",
        "text": "的成交量已經相對健全了你取消掉就表示股市已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/151.wav",
        "text": "健全了明明身體已經很健康了你還一直讓他吃這個藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/152.wav",
        "text": "這樣反而以後會有副作用所以你該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/153.wav",
        "text": "斷然停止停藥你就要停藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/154.wav",
        "text": "不要再一直吃下去了你的訊號很簡單股"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/155.wav",
        "text": "市的成交量已經夠了嘛更何況現實上來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/156.wav",
        "text": "臺灣目前的資本幾乎接近氾濫的階段錢會往哪裡跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/157.wav",
        "text": "央行又推信用管制資本不可能再一直往房地產跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/158.wav",
        "text": "那會往哪邊跑一定往股市這邊跑\n第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/159.wav",
        "text": "我們的ETF長期的投資工具越來越健全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/160.wav",
        "text": "接下來還有REITs這樣你股市還怕什麼你還怕什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/161.wav",
        "text": "就差一個沒有TISA而已不是嗎部長署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/162.wav",
        "text": "對不對TISA我們還沒有達成共識對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/163.wav",
        "text": "這種TISAREITs還有包括ETF"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/164.wav",
        "text": "建構起來的股票市場的基盤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/165.wav",
        "text": "就夠大了根本不需要當沖降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/166.wav",
        "text": "所以我說實在的3年2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/167.wav",
        "text": "都\n我是不曉得珊珊委員的看法是怎麼樣最重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/168.wav",
        "text": "你要對外宣示說我就是OK我對股票市場非常有信心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/169.wav",
        "text": "我什麼時候要斷奶什麼時候要斷藥趕快講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/170.wav",
        "text": "這一點不講清楚這一次你講完給你之後你下次還是左三年右三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/171.wav",
        "text": "再三年來三年就持續一直延下去要搞到什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/172.wav",
        "text": "這沒道理嘛對社會沒有道理嘛真正的不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/173.wav",
        "text": "不是在市場真正的不確定性是政府政府的決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/174.wav",
        "text": "才是真正的不確定性常常要延長問題點是在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/175.wav",
        "text": "不是在市場坤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/176.wav",
        "text": "坤城委員有沒有要補充的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/177.wav",
        "text": "3年之後就算今天財政部的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/178.wav",
        "text": "金管會的版本通過了3年我的意思就是說3年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/179.wav",
        "text": "大家一定會再討論然後那時候又正逢總統大選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/180.wav",
        "text": "總統大選之後再來討論要嘛就是國文委員還有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/181.wav",
        "text": "委員的版本那我們是不是要有一個落日條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/182.wav",
        "text": "不然我跟你講3年之後我們還是會繼續再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/183.wav",
        "text": "要不要再延3年一定是這樣子的那時候的氛圍一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/184.wav",
        "text": "沒有要去維護股市或者是沒有要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/185.wav",
        "text": "給它信心之類的會變成這樣子啦我現在都可以預想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/186.wav",
        "text": "3年之後的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/187.wav",
        "text": "主席羅明才委員已經不在場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/188.wav",
        "text": "現在黃珊珊委員在這邊我們基本上都傾向於設定落日條款不然你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/189.wav",
        "text": "就待會年限部分再押一個落日就做成今天的決議啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/190.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再問一下如果我們照行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/191.wav",
        "text": "你們同意不同意顯然你們是不同意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/192.wav",
        "text": "3年加落日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/193.wav",
        "text": "來請問部長跟副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/194.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分涉及到資本市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/195.wav",
        "text": "資本市場的一個評估我想可能還是要審慎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/196.wav",
        "text": "是不是看看金管會就是主管機關有沒有什麼樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/197.wav",
        "text": "好請金管會副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/198.wav",
        "text": "就像中醫剛才委員有提到望聞問切嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/199.wav",
        "text": "我們3年前就給它定性是這些是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/200.wav",
        "text": "還是可以維持行政院版本的彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/201.wav",
        "text": "我甚至覺得這也是個方式謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/202.wav",
        "text": "好談不攏喔大家沒有交集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/203.wav",
        "text": "請問在現場的三位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/204.wav",
        "text": "那我們就讓第2條之2跟第十六條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/205.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/206.wav",
        "text": "主席我還是希望金管會或是財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/207.wav",
        "text": "還是要提出一個量化的指標出來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/208.wav",
        "text": "對這個其實是蠻重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/209.wav",
        "text": "對啊就是當你達到什麼樣的成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/210.wav",
        "text": "就像國文講的身體若是有夠勇他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/211.wav",
        "text": "他是認為現在身體就很勇了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/212.wav",
        "text": "但是身體若是夠勇的那個指標在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/213.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得這個東西還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/214.wav",
        "text": "好那我們其餘都遵照審查會審查的結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16279/215.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/0.wav",
        "text": "\n協商進行前先介紹在場委員及機關代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1.wav",
        "text": "首先是麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/2.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱召委沈伯洋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/3.wav",
        "text": "接著介紹到場的機關代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/4.wav",
        "text": "司法院副秘書長黃麟倫副秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/5.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭書記廳廳長楊皓清廳長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/6.wav",
        "text": "\n現在進行協商\n協商主題一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/7.wav",
        "text": "經審查會於113年10月21日審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/8.wav",
        "text": "審查結果第4條及第95條均保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/9.wav",
        "text": "並決議院會討論前須交由黨團協商主題二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/10.wav",
        "text": "經本院第11屆第2會期第2次院會決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/11.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/12.wav",
        "text": "協商時請參閱審查報告及逕付二讀提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/13.wav",
        "text": "關係文書與會委員如有修正動議或機關有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/14.wav",
        "text": "建議內容請提出書面印發現場進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/15.wav",
        "text": "\n由於兩項協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/16.wav",
        "text": "都是與憲法訴訟法的修正有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/17.wav",
        "text": "為求效率請問在場各黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/18.wav",
        "text": "是否就兩項協商主題一併表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/19.wav",
        "text": "我們先稍微等一下因為翁委員在外面受訪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/20.wav",
        "text": "等一下先請翁委員做提案的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/21.wav",
        "text": "無線麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/22.wav",
        "text": "有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/23.wav",
        "text": "因為我們才幾個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/24.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天只借得到這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/25.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/26.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛唸得很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/27.wav",
        "text": "就是第4條及第95條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/28.wav",
        "text": "10月21日出委員會沒錯吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/29.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀是什麼時候逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/30.wav",
        "text": "第2次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/31.wav",
        "text": "日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/32.wav",
        "text": "因為我們不曉得日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/33.wav",
        "text": "有些關鍵資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/34.wav",
        "text": "並沒有提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/35.wav",
        "text": "日期是113年9月27日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/36.wav",
        "text": "還有其他問題嗎沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/37.wav",
        "text": "沒有的話我們就先請提案委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/38.wav",
        "text": "\n提案委員翁委員麻煩你做提案說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/39.wav",
        "text": "各位女士各位先生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/40.wav",
        "text": "憲法訴訟法第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/41.wav",
        "text": "條文的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/42.wav",
        "text": "最重要的目的當然就是要明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/43.wav",
        "text": "現有總額的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/44.wav",
        "text": "也就是將大法官現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/45.wav",
        "text": "明定為憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/46.wav",
        "text": "15位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/47.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/48.wav",
        "text": "判決的品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/49.wav",
        "text": "同時也能夠強化憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/50.wav",
        "text": "法庭在審理程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/51.wav",
        "text": "的嚴謹度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/52.wav",
        "text": "更重要的是避免少數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/53.wav",
        "text": "大法官就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/54.wav",
        "text": "影響人民基本權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/55.wav",
        "text": "及國家制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/56.wav",
        "text": "憲法訴訟法條文修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/57.wav",
        "text": "涉及到我國未來憲政法制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/58.wav",
        "text": "的健全發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/59.wav",
        "text": "因此本席在這裡提出這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/60.wav",
        "text": "請與會機關代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/61.wav",
        "text": "說明請司法院說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/62.wav",
        "text": "\n不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/63.wav",
        "text": "第3條及第43條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/64.wav",
        "text": "關於第3條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/65.wav",
        "text": "修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/66.wav",
        "text": "就是提高大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/67.wav",
        "text": "的審理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/68.wav",
        "text": "同意門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/69.wav",
        "text": "之二在過去大法官審理案件法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/70.wav",
        "text": "的時代也是三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/71.wav",
        "text": "大法官審理案件法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/72.wav",
        "text": "更早時候的修法當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/73.wav",
        "text": "曾經出現過四分之三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/74.wav",
        "text": "修法就像我之前所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/75.wav",
        "text": "提高大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/76.wav",
        "text": "評議門檻從二分之一到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/77.wav",
        "text": "三分之二目的就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/78.wav",
        "text": "強化憲法法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/79.wav",
        "text": "憲法裁判的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/80.wav",
        "text": "更加嚴謹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/81.wav",
        "text": "司法院發表意見在座位上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/82.wav",
        "text": "就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/83.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/84.wav",
        "text": "司法院感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/85.wav",
        "text": "大院讓司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/86.wav",
        "text": "有表示意見的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/87.wav",
        "text": "\n司法院要呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/88.wav",
        "text": "因為憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/89.wav",
        "text": "唯一有權解釋憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/90.wav",
        "text": "機關在憲政秩序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/91.wav",
        "text": "要獲取終局救濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/92.wav",
        "text": "的最後途徑因此我們認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/93.wav",
        "text": "為各憲政機關都有這個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/94.wav",
        "text": "共同維護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/95.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭的穩定運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/96.wav",
        "text": "這個修正草案第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/97.wav",
        "text": "第3條第43條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/98.wav",
        "text": "及第95條我們擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/99.wav",
        "text": "很有可能造成憲法法庭難以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/100.wav",
        "text": "行使職權對於人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/101.wav",
        "text": "的權利救濟會有嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/102.wav",
        "text": "委員能夠三思以下就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/103.wav",
        "text": "這幾個條文再簡單報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/104.wav",
        "text": "一下詳細內容可以參考書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/105.wav",
        "text": "第5條所訂的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/106.wav",
        "text": "人數也就是15人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/107.wav",
        "text": "大法官有辭任死亡出缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/108.wav",
        "text": "任滿之後沒辦法及時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/109.wav",
        "text": "資料後面所附的其他國家譬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/110.wav",
        "text": "奧地利及加拿大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/111.wav",
        "text": "等等對於這種情形都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/112.wav",
        "text": "憲訴法並沒有這樣的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/113.wav",
        "text": "之下憲法法庭的運作產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/114.wav",
        "text": "請求憲法的權利救濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/115.wav",
        "text": "障礙如果再對照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/116.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的憲訴法第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/117.wav",
        "text": "不計入現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/118.wav",
        "text": "這樣會產生修正草案第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/119.wav",
        "text": "與第十二條之間解釋上的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/120.wav",
        "text": "提到第十二條還是特別規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/121.wav",
        "text": "在第十二條的情形之下就不是15人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/122.wav",
        "text": "了在這種情形之下也有產生一些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/123.wav",
        "text": "矛盾的情況也就是說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/124.wav",
        "text": "這種情形已經不是15人了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/125.wav",
        "text": "與第4條之間就有點齟齬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/126.wav",
        "text": "齟齬而且我們也覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/127.wav",
        "text": "如果在迴避的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/128.wav",
        "text": "已經有這個人只是在他迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/129.wav",
        "text": "的時候不計入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/130.wav",
        "text": "那麼根本沒有這個人譬如是缺額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/131.wav",
        "text": "的情形反而又計入的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/132.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是有衡平也請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/133.wav",
        "text": "另外是針對第3條及第43條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/134.wav",
        "text": "提高到三分之二針對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/135.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得對憲法法庭的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/136.wav",
        "text": "行使又增加了更"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/137.wav",
        "text": "草案比憲法訴訟改制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/138.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議時期規定以出席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/139.wav",
        "text": "大法官的三分之二同意門檻更高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/140.wav",
        "text": "的三分之二就可以現在這個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/141.wav",
        "text": "修正草案變成是現有總額的三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/142.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/143.wav",
        "text": "違背外界希望憲法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/144.wav",
        "text": "修正的意見\n大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/145.wav",
        "text": "改成過半數是在2017年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/146.wav",
        "text": "司改國是會議之下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/147.wav",
        "text": "人員的三分之二造成當"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/148.wav",
        "text": "出席大法官贊成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/149.wav",
        "text": "與反對都沒有達到三分之二的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/150.wav",
        "text": "識案件懸而未決人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/151.wav",
        "text": "請求解釋憲法一直"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/152.wav",
        "text": "在司改國是會議做了決議之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/153.wav",
        "text": "我們的憲法訴訟法也配合進行修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/154.wav",
        "text": "確實有達到當初"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/155.wav",
        "text": "希望給人民憲法上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/156.wav",
        "text": "權利有效救濟的目的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/157.wav",
        "text": "如果我們現在又修改成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/158.wav",
        "text": "對於憲法法庭"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/159.wav",
        "text": "的運作會產生更大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/160.wav",
        "text": "這個部分能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/161.wav",
        "text": "維持\n另外關於修正草案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/162.wav",
        "text": "第95條施行日期的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/163.wav",
        "text": "既然本院建議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/164.wav",
        "text": "第4條第3條及第43條都維持現狀"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/165.wav",
        "text": "的施行日期我們也是贊成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/166.wav",
        "text": "贊成維持現狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/167.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/168.wav",
        "text": "謝謝接下來請出席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/169.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/170.wav",
        "text": "首先請民進黨的代表"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/171.wav",
        "text": "表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/172.wav",
        "text": "對今天由翁委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/173.wav",
        "text": "兩個部分一個是第4條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/174.wav",
        "text": "及第95條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/175.wav",
        "text": "原總額改成法定總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/176.wav",
        "text": "一個是第3條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/177.wav",
        "text": "及第43條將評議人數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/178.wav",
        "text": "作成決議要改成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/179.wav",
        "text": "三分之二其實關鍵"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/180.wav",
        "text": "還是在於現"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/181.wav",
        "text": "有總額的認定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/182.wav",
        "text": "是否已改為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/183.wav",
        "text": "所謂的法定總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/184.wav",
        "text": "過去在委員會討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/185.wav",
        "text": "也都不時的提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/186.wav",
        "text": "在這裡還是要重複的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/187.wav",
        "text": "拿出來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/188.wav",
        "text": "原本我們是希望透過公聽會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/189.wav",
        "text": "公聽會的話現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/190.wav",
        "text": "當代法律所出的專刊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/191.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭現"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/192.wav",
        "text": "有總額就是這個專題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/193.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這個題目會引發"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/194.wav",
        "text": "法律人這麼高度的關切"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/195.wav",
        "text": "不只有這個專刊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/196.wav",
        "text": "來討論甚至明天"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/197.wav",
        "text": "也有法律人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/198.wav",
        "text": "要透過實際行動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/199.wav",
        "text": "當然言論自由大家各有立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/200.wav",
        "text": "但法理上還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/201.wav",
        "text": "有一個基本的原則\n先從"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/202.wav",
        "text": "我們自己立法院來好了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/203.wav",
        "text": "在我們自己的立法院職權行使"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/204.wav",
        "text": "行使法當中的第4條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/205.wav",
        "text": "第1項立法院會議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/206.wav",
        "text": "任何合議制的機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/207.wav",
        "text": "成會的額數一定是法律規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/208.wav",
        "text": "這個自不待言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/209.wav",
        "text": "本身所謂立法委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/210.wav",
        "text": "總額三分之一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/211.wav",
        "text": "立法委員總額是如何認定呢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/212.wav",
        "text": "它是以每會期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/213.wav",
        "text": "實際報到人數為計算標準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/214.wav",
        "text": "但是會期中辭職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/215.wav",
        "text": "去職或亡故者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/216.wav",
        "text": "應減除之"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/217.wav",
        "text": "依增修條文的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/218.wav",
        "text": "我們的法定員額是113席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/219.wav",
        "text": "這是剛性的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/220.wav",
        "text": "但是實質上我們的總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/221.wav",
        "text": "會依實際報到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/222.wav",
        "text": "有一個特別的制度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/223.wav",
        "text": "當選為立法委員之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/224.wav",
        "text": "的每個會期會有實際報到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/225.wav",
        "text": "在實際報到後才能行使職權"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/226.wav",
        "text": "因此嚴格來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/227.wav",
        "text": "如果有委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/228.wav",
        "text": "未能在會期開始時進行報到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/229.wav",
        "text": "我們的總額就會下降"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/230.wav",
        "text": "總額下降之後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/231.wav",
        "text": "在會期中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/232.wav",
        "text": "若有人辭職去職或死亡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/233.wav",
        "text": "還會再減除"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/234.wav",
        "text": "能夠運作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/235.wav",
        "text": "能夠有計算的標準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/236.wav",
        "text": "立職法這樣的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/237.wav",
        "text": "我們來看看"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/238.wav",
        "text": "誠如剛剛司法院的報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/239.wav",
        "text": "它是在108年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/240.wav",
        "text": "改為現在的憲法訴訟法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/241.wav",
        "text": "是稱為司法院大法官"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/242.wav",
        "text": "審理案件法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/243.wav",
        "text": "那個時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/244.wav",
        "text": "第一次在立法院討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/245.wav",
        "text": "就對於現有總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/246.wav",
        "text": "做了很清楚的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/247.wav",
        "text": "為多數的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/248.wav",
        "text": "包括國民黨的提案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/249.wav",
        "text": "包括那個時候司法院的秘書長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/250.wav",
        "text": "大法官在開會的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/251.wav",
        "text": "向來都是以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/252.wav",
        "text": "現有的總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/253.wav",
        "text": "還特別把原來大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/254.wav",
        "text": "會議的法當中明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/255.wav",
        "text": "說是現有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/256.wav",
        "text": "因此當我們更動這個現有的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/257.wav",
        "text": "會產生什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/258.wav",
        "text": "剛剛在司法院說明時聽到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/259.wav",
        "text": "這些依實際狀況不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/260.wav",
        "text": "行使的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/261.wav",
        "text": "其實在其他國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/262.wav",
        "text": "如果它的成會額數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/263.wav",
        "text": "有剛性的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/264.wav",
        "text": "至於這個配套在我們現在看來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/265.wav",
        "text": "這個配套就是所謂的萬年延任條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/266.wav",
        "text": "其實很多會議的合議制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/267.wav",
        "text": "為了避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/268.wav",
        "text": "我舉一個議條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/269.wav",
        "text": "國民大會還存在的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/270.wav",
        "text": "當過國大代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/271.wav",
        "text": "國大代表根據憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/272.wav",
        "text": "第28條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/273.wav",
        "text": "代表之任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/274.wav",
        "text": "至次屆國民大會開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/275.wav",
        "text": "之日為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/276.wav",
        "text": "一任是6年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/277.wav",
        "text": "它的任期必須到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/278.wav",
        "text": "次一屆的新國民大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/279.wav",
        "text": "原任的國民大會代表才會到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/280.wav",
        "text": "任屆滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/281.wav",
        "text": "這是為了確保國民大會作為國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/282.wav",
        "text": "的主權機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/283.wav",
        "text": "因為有這樣的剛性規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/284.wav",
        "text": "在政府來到臺灣之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/285.wav",
        "text": "當時國民大會才能依照這樣的釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/286.wav",
        "text": "讓國民大會持續地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/287.wav",
        "text": "規定一定會有配套的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/288.wav",
        "text": "讓這些額數在運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/289.wav",
        "text": "時不會有中斷之虞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/290.wav",
        "text": "表現在我們最近的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/291.wav",
        "text": "就是兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/292.wav",
        "text": "一個是公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/293.wav",
        "text": "一個是NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/294.wav",
        "text": "因為這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/295.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/296.wav",
        "text": "都必須維持不間斷的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/297.wav",
        "text": "作業所以它們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/298.wav",
        "text": "配套在公聽會也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/299.wav",
        "text": "一定要延到次一屆的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/300.wav",
        "text": "產生之後為止因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/301.wav",
        "text": "我們要採取一個剛性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/302.wav",
        "text": "本身的制度就必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/303.wav",
        "text": "讓你的法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/304.wav",
        "text": "不會有間斷出缺的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/305.wav",
        "text": "必須要有這樣的配套設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/306.wav",
        "text": "法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/307.wav",
        "text": "而不是用現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/308.wav",
        "text": "目前看到的第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/309.wav",
        "text": "過去我們也曾表達過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/310.wav",
        "text": "直接將以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/311.wav",
        "text": "現有總額就是指法定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/312.wav",
        "text": "員額這一項加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/313.wav",
        "text": "這裡第4條明明白白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/314.wav",
        "text": "的本意是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/315.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭審理規則由司法院定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/316.wav",
        "text": "前項規則由全體大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/317.wav",
        "text": "議決之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/318.wav",
        "text": "就連第4條本身都很明白的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/319.wav",
        "text": "在憲法機關的分權上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/320.wav",
        "text": "第4條核心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/321.wav",
        "text": "就告訴你整個憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/322.wav",
        "text": "及其底下的審理規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/323.wav",
        "text": "都是由大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/324.wav",
        "text": "自己決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/325.wav",
        "text": "當然在法的位階上它是由立法院來完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/326.wav",
        "text": "但是立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/327.wav",
        "text": "基於對其他憲法機關的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/328.wav",
        "text": "我們在第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/329.wav",
        "text": "彰顯由大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/330.wav",
        "text": "自治自理的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/331.wav",
        "text": "下面橫空而出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/332.wav",
        "text": "第3項硬是要採行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/333.wav",
        "text": "審理法當中當時的執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/334.wav",
        "text": "就明明白白說出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/335.wav",
        "text": "就是指現有總額要去改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/336.wav",
        "text": "它的規則實在是讓我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/337.wav",
        "text": "非常地會讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/338.wav",
        "text": "外界疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/339.wav",
        "text": "第3條及第43條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/340.wav",
        "text": "是指參與評議的額數規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/341.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/342.wav",
        "text": "作成如此剛性的規定卻沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/343.wav",
        "text": "任何的配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/344.wav",
        "text": "那麼後面根本就無從適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/345.wav",
        "text": "的司法院書面報告中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/346.wav",
        "text": "都有提到這樣一個倉促"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/347.wav",
        "text": "粗糙的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/348.wav",
        "text": "甚至連憲法訴訟法第十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/349.wav",
        "text": "迴避的規定都沒有修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/350.wav",
        "text": "規定依本法迴避之大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/351.wav",
        "text": "不計入現有總額之人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/352.wav",
        "text": "這樣要如何去維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/353.wav",
        "text": "\n如果你的現有總額在第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/354.wav",
        "text": "用法定員額將它剛性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/355.wav",
        "text": "而迴避的法官又不計入在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/356.wav",
        "text": "現有總額的員數計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/357.wav",
        "text": "到底我們要用哪一個才是法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/358.wav",
        "text": "才是現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/359.wav",
        "text": "現有總額變成法定總額是15名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/360.wav",
        "text": "這15名要不要扣掉迴避的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/361.wav",
        "text": "也完全沒有處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/362.wav",
        "text": "基本上這樣的一個認知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/363.wav",
        "text": "我們真的不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/364.wav",
        "text": "你在第4條加上一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/365.wav",
        "text": "法定員額的剛性規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/366.wav",
        "text": "又怎麼樣去適用第十二條迴避的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/367.wav",
        "text": "迴避的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/368.wav",
        "text": "到底是適用法定的15名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/369.wav",
        "text": "評議額數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/370.wav",
        "text": "或是要用扣掉迴避的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/371.wav",
        "text": "現有總額作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/372.wav",
        "text": "評議的門檻額數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/373.wav",
        "text": "\n我想這一點充分說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/374.wav",
        "text": "讓我們不知道未來大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/375.wav",
        "text": "在憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/376.wav",
        "text": "該如何運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/377.wav",
        "text": "這也是目前為止法律人法界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/378.wav",
        "text": "一致的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/379.wav",
        "text": "這一點是我們必須表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/380.wav",
        "text": "的儘管我們在委員會也多次提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/381.wav",
        "text": "也希望能夠召開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/382.wav",
        "text": "但是公聽會一直無法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/383.wav",
        "text": "得到其他兩黨的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/384.wav",
        "text": "一直無法成行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/385.wav",
        "text": "因此當立法院在委員會無法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/386.wav",
        "text": "滿足社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/387.wav",
        "text": "對於憲法訴訟法充分的討論之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/388.wav",
        "text": "我想社會就必須採取他們的自力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/389.wav",
        "text": "救濟這也是我們所不樂見的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/390.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望在今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/391.wav",
        "text": "由國民黨召委發起的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/392.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/393.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/394.wav",
        "text": "代表都發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/395.wav",
        "text": "再一個一個來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/396.wav",
        "text": "不要一個講一個回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/397.wav",
        "text": "因為雙方的見解差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/398.wav",
        "text": "蠻大是不是就由民進黨這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/399.wav",
        "text": "先把想法講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/400.wav",
        "text": "再由國民黨或民眾黨接著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/401.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/402.wav",
        "text": "其實說它嚴肅也非常嚴肅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/403.wav",
        "text": "但是它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/404.wav",
        "text": "修法過程可能又有點輕挑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/405.wav",
        "text": "我相信翁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/406.wav",
        "text": "多元的意見與觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/407.wav",
        "text": "削弱裁判的多元性公正性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/408.wav",
        "text": "及專業公信力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/409.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/410.wav",
        "text": "到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/411.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/412.wav",
        "text": "作成到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/413.wav",
        "text": "挑戰它的人不多不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/414.wav",
        "text": "不管是誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/415.wav",
        "text": "挑戰它的人都不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/416.wav",
        "text": "要把整個法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/417.wav",
        "text": "你假設的那種情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/418.wav",
        "text": "其實從來也沒發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/419.wav",
        "text": "什麼34個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/420.wav",
        "text": "有辦法做成判決"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/421.wav",
        "text": "來看從來就沒有發生過這種事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/422.wav",
        "text": "反倒是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/423.wav",
        "text": "整個法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/424.wav",
        "text": "才會造成實質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/425.wav",
        "text": "癱瘓掉整個憲法法庭以後的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/426.wav",
        "text": "這個大家都明講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/427.wav",
        "text": "政機關之間產生爭議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/428.wav",
        "text": "最終的解鈴人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/429.wav",
        "text": "一定是憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/430.wav",
        "text": "如果是人民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/431.wav",
        "text": "遭受到侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/432.wav",
        "text": "你說要找誰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/433.wav",
        "text": "也一定是到憲法法庭也"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/434.wav",
        "text": "就是說當人民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/435.wav",
        "text": "基本權利受到侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/436.wav",
        "text": "或是有憲政爭議時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/437.wav",
        "text": "還是要大法官"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/438.wav",
        "text": "按照你的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/439.wav",
        "text": "固定了改為法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/440.wav",
        "text": "將它固定成15人之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/441.wav",
        "text": "沒發生過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/442.wav",
        "text": "同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/443.wav",
        "text": "很有可能會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/444.wav",
        "text": "就一定停擺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/445.wav",
        "text": "這是大家都知道的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/446.wav",
        "text": "國家是大家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/447.wav",
        "text": "國家真的是大家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/448.wav",
        "text": "你這個一修法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/449.wav",
        "text": "很容易預測會發生什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/450.wav",
        "text": "這次大法官"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/451.wav",
        "text": "任期到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/452.wav",
        "text": "這幾個重補再補到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/453.wav",
        "text": "要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/454.wav",
        "text": "再補大法官的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/455.wav",
        "text": "如果在國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/456.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/457.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法通過的理由很多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/458.wav",
        "text": "好的人壞的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/459.wav",
        "text": "他也未必知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/460.wav",
        "text": "都是黨團的意志"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/461.wav",
        "text": "哪怕我告訴你他很有學問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/462.wav",
        "text": "哪怕學法的人都認為他很有學問"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/463.wav",
        "text": "你就覺得這個人比較偏誰比較偏誰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/464.wav",
        "text": "這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/465.wav",
        "text": "很輕而易舉地可以做一個想像"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/466.wav",
        "text": "就連在美國"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/467.wav",
        "text": "比較保守派之類的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/468.wav",
        "text": "另外大家最近看到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/469.wav",
        "text": "韓國也碰到這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/470.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們在國會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/471.wav",
        "text": "通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/472.wav",
        "text": "就像我剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/473.wav",
        "text": "這種狀況會懸而不決"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/474.wav",
        "text": "這個就會很糟糕了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/475.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛提到的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/476.wav",
        "text": "民進黨這樣的擔憂"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/477.wav",
        "text": "或法界的這些擔憂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/478.wav",
        "text": "都是不存在的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/479.wav",
        "text": "你們真的認為是不存在的嗎"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/480.wav",
        "text": "只因為我的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/481.wav",
        "text": "就比你多一點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/482.wav",
        "text": "所以我就硬要通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/483.wav",
        "text": "那麼你通過的目的是要做什麼"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/484.wav",
        "text": "難道只因為大法官會議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/485.wav",
        "text": "其實這個本來就是它該有的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/486.wav",
        "text": "啊\n各位想想看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/487.wav",
        "text": "如果大法官缺額不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/488.wav",
        "text": "也就算了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/489.wav",
        "text": "對人民的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/490.wav",
        "text": "現在的人民申請案高達99%"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/491.wav",
        "text": "我談過很多次的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/492.wav",
        "text": "都需要補正正當程序"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/493.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有憲法法庭把這個做出來的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/494.wav",
        "text": "現在你就法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/495.wav",
        "text": "一定要把它固定成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/496.wav",
        "text": "15個人的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/497.wav",
        "text": "很有可能發生的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/498.wav",
        "text": "在國會裡這些大法官的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/499.wav",
        "text": "同意權行使不通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/500.wav",
        "text": "一直要換一直要換換到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/501.wav",
        "text": "國民黨喜歡才有辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/502.wav",
        "text": "那麼類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/503.wav",
        "text": "像這樣的驗尿強制抽血"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/504.wav",
        "text": "暫時處分針對不同國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/505.wav",
        "text": "小孩歸屬的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/506.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有憲法法庭的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/507.wav",
        "text": "請問像這種案子"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/508.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/509.wav",
        "text": "如果軍事法院與普通法院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/510.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/511.wav",
        "text": "唯一的救濟方式就只剩到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/512.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭去但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/513.wav",
        "text": "但是到憲法法庭去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/514.wav",
        "text": "總額不到15人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/515.wav",
        "text": "三分之二才能評議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/516.wav",
        "text": "啊\n也就變成要10個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/517.wav",
        "text": "如果人數沒有通過的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/518.wav",
        "text": "根本就不可能有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/519.wav",
        "text": "讓整個大法官會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/520.wav",
        "text": "現在已經不稱為大法官會議應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/521.wav",
        "text": "\n高門檻的同意做成判決"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/522.wav",
        "text": "這個其實是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/523.wav",
        "text": "走回頭路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/524.wav",
        "text": "走回頭路況且以前並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/525.wav",
        "text": "要法定總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/526.wav",
        "text": "喔\n各位去看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/527.wav",
        "text": "在2022年施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/528.wav",
        "text": "把過去三分之二的同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/529.wav",
        "text": "避免造成判決速度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/530.wav",
        "text": "太緩慢緩不濟急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/531.wav",
        "text": "啊你說憲訴法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/532.wav",
        "text": "施行這兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/533.wav",
        "text": "做成48次判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/534.wav",
        "text": "南韓憲法第101條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/535.wav",
        "text": "是9名大法官組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/536.wav",
        "text": "7名同意的高門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/537.wav",
        "text": "但是今年來不及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/538.wav",
        "text": "提名最終憲法法庭的判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/539.wav",
        "text": "就暫停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/540.wav",
        "text": "適用高門檻的總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/541.wav",
        "text": "南非也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/542.wav",
        "text": "它的憲法第106條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/543.wav",
        "text": "規定11名大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/544.wav",
        "text": "8名參與"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/545.wav",
        "text": "這個就是避免判決速度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/546.wav",
        "text": "\n各位再來想想看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/547.wav",
        "text": "現行的憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/548.wav",
        "text": "針對正副總統的彈劾案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/549.wav",
        "text": "及違憲政黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/550.wav",
        "text": "解散案我們設定的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/551.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/552.wav",
        "text": "是如此採取這樣的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/553.wav",
        "text": "高門檻"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/554.wav",
        "text": "難道你忘了修這一條嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/555.wav",
        "text": "樣就變成你沒辦法去做差別待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/556.wav",
        "text": "了你沒辦法去做差別待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/557.wav",
        "text": "這次的提案僅提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/558.wav",
        "text": "一般判決與暫時處分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/559.wav",
        "text": "卻未提升整個彈劾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/560.wav",
        "text": "就法論法來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/561.wav",
        "text": "倉促去修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/562.wav",
        "text": "根據憲法增修條文第4條第7項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/563.wav",
        "text": "並由大法官來做審理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/564.wav",
        "text": "但是根據憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/565.wav",
        "text": "第五章部分的第75條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/566.wav",
        "text": "只要達到三分之二"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/567.wav",
        "text": "決議才得以彈劾所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/568.wav",
        "text": "你就失去了那個衡平啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/569.wav",
        "text": "失去了那個衡平"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/570.wav",
        "text": "歷史上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/571.wav",
        "text": "你只要因為對大法官"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/572.wav",
        "text": "而引發這樣的報復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/573.wav",
        "text": "到底好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/574.wav",
        "text": "各位可以想一想"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/575.wav",
        "text": "大法官做"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/576.wav",
        "text": "出第76號解釋"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/577.wav",
        "text": "就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/578.wav",
        "text": "1958"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/579.wav",
        "text": "年提高大法官做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/580.wav",
        "text": "也就是37年大法官會議的規則"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/581.wav",
        "text": "是二分之一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/582.wav",
        "text": "第十二條是二分之一出席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/583.wav",
        "text": "二分之一就決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/584.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議應有大法官總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/585.wav",
        "text": "半數出席出席大法官過半數同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/586.wav",
        "text": "到了1952年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/587.wav",
        "text": "修正大法官會議的準則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/588.wav",
        "text": "是三分之二出席二分之一決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/589.wav",
        "text": "到了1958"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/590.wav",
        "text": "年提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/591.wav",
        "text": "四分之三同意有沒有過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/592.wav",
        "text": "有曾經這樣過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/593.wav",
        "text": "但這是什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/594.wav",
        "text": "這是因為大法官做成第76號解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/595.wav",
        "text": "唯一的民意機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/596.wav",
        "text": "就把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/597.wav",
        "text": "當初大法官會議規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/598.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/599.wav",
        "text": "所產生的民意反撲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/600.wav",
        "text": "是記憶猶新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/601.wav",
        "text": "是在2004年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/602.wav",
        "text": "限定立法院調查權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/603.wav",
        "text": "那時候國親隔年就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/604.wav",
        "text": "提出刪減大法官的專業加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/605.wav",
        "text": "所以大法官也在2005年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/606.wav",
        "text": "做成第601號的宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/607.wav",
        "text": "將它宣告違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/608.wav",
        "text": "\n以現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/609.wav",
        "text": "的國民黨與民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/610.wav",
        "text": "最後會不會挺國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/611.wav",
        "text": "覺得這個並不是誰挺誰的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/612.wav",
        "text": "修法的理由是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/613.wav",
        "text": "擔心會有極端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/614.wav",
        "text": "但是我們必須要提出從過去到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/615.wav",
        "text": "都沒有發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/616.wav",
        "text": "哪怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/617.wav",
        "text": "是大家講的臺大那個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/618.wav",
        "text": "有迴避那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/619.wav",
        "text": "還是達到9個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/620.wav",
        "text": "從來不會發生什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/621.wav",
        "text": "3個4個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/622.wav",
        "text": "我們不敢說憲法法庭是位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/623.wav",
        "text": "位高權重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/624.wav",
        "text": "國人尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/625.wav",
        "text": "尤其是學法的人全部都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/626.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/627.wav",
        "text": "放進去到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/628.wav",
        "text": "放在那個地方導致開不成會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/629.wav",
        "text": "其實要開不成會就很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/630.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/631.wav",
        "text": "提名人選通過憲法法庭就停擺了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/632.wav",
        "text": "這種狀況到最後是誰要負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/633.wav",
        "text": "不要開玩笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/634.wav",
        "text": "啦不要開玩笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/635.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭或過去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/636.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議有哪一號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/637.wav",
        "text": "也不容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/638.wav",
        "text": "國民黨時代如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/639.wav",
        "text": "民進黨時代也如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/640.wav",
        "text": "死刑判決是一個價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/641.wav",
        "text": "你可以有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/642.wav",
        "text": "你自己的價值判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/643.wav",
        "text": "無論是憲法法庭也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/644.wav",
        "text": "或是一般法庭也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/645.wav",
        "text": "法官不應該跳出來辯護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/646.wav",
        "text": "法官本來就應該無語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/647.wav",
        "text": "要嘛你就去看他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/648.wav",
        "text": "判決書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/649.wav",
        "text": "提出批判這個都是可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/650.wav",
        "text": "立法院沒有這個能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/651.wav",
        "text": "啊立法院沒有這個能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/652.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個法學素養對憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/653.wav",
        "text": "所以你只能訴諸政治上的力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/654.wav",
        "text": "就只有這樣子而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/655.wav",
        "text": "使用這樣的報復方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/656.wav",
        "text": "我覺得真的不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/657.wav",
        "text": "\n吳宗憲召委本身也是法律人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/658.wav",
        "text": "我們都是法律人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/659.wav",
        "text": "以前稱為大法官會議解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/660.wav",
        "text": "被我批評的也很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/661.wav",
        "text": "因為你現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/662.wav",
        "text": "我也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/663.wav",
        "text": "有部分不同意見書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/664.wav",
        "text": "我也可以有協同意見書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/665.wav",
        "text": "我也可以有不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/666.wav",
        "text": "完全反對的看法都會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/667.wav",
        "text": "你的判決要達成一個權威"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/668.wav",
        "text": "正反見解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/669.wav",
        "text": "全部在那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/670.wav",
        "text": "如果法定總額預設下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/671.wav",
        "text": "立法院再用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/672.wav",
        "text": "同意權的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/673.wav",
        "text": "整個憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/674.wav",
        "text": "癱瘓掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/675.wav",
        "text": "對政黨都是小事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/676.wav",
        "text": "對立法院也都是小事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/677.wav",
        "text": "因為立法委員薪水照領"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/678.wav",
        "text": "你也不會痛搞不好還很開心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/679.wav",
        "text": "啊但是對整個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/680.wav",
        "text": "對過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/681.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/682.wav",
        "text": "可以解決整個憲政上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/683.wav",
        "text": "爭議及人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/684.wav",
        "text": "而言你把這個路堵死了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/685.wav",
        "text": "不可啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/686.wav",
        "text": "我也請提案的翁委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/687.wav",
        "text": "啦真的再考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/688.wav",
        "text": "因為我真的看不出你這個修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/689.wav",
        "text": "的正當性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/690.wav",
        "text": "我們在司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/691.wav",
        "text": "哪怕是政府機關提出的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/692.wav",
        "text": "翁委員你也很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/693.wav",
        "text": "我常常都是反對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/694.wav",
        "text": "我很堅持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/695.wav",
        "text": "但是我看了你的提案之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/696.wav",
        "text": "非常薄弱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/697.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法你把這件事放到旁邊去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/698.wav",
        "text": "你說你修這個法律的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/699.wav",
        "text": "在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/700.wav",
        "text": "沒有發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/701.wav",
        "text": "你擔心的事情沒有發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/702.wav",
        "text": "可能會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/703.wav",
        "text": "所以要先預防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/704.wav",
        "text": "這樣也不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/705.wav",
        "text": "這樣也不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/706.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有什麼23個造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/707.wav",
        "text": "不會有這種狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/708.wav",
        "text": "啦因此面對外界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/709.wav",
        "text": "會實質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/710.wav",
        "text": "癱瘓掉整個憲法法庭的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/711.wav",
        "text": "你也很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/712.wav",
        "text": "沒有通過就實質癱瘓掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/713.wav",
        "text": "難道這樣你會很開心嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/714.wav",
        "text": "請問碰到這種狀況你要怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/715.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼補救"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/716.wav",
        "text": "立法者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/717.wav",
        "text": "怎可如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/718.wav",
        "text": "立法者怎可如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/719.wav",
        "text": "很嚴肅的一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/720.wav",
        "text": "也就是說從盤古開天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/721.wav",
        "text": "從過去有大法官會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/722.wav",
        "text": "哪怕過去國民黨在戒嚴時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/723.wav",
        "text": "有一個大法官會議在那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/724.wav",
        "text": "大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/725.wav",
        "text": "不是開玩笑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/726.wav",
        "text": "政黨太過誇張大法官會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/727.wav",
        "text": "會宣告你是違憲喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/728.wav",
        "text": "連戒嚴時期都會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/729.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/730.wav",
        "text": "到現在我們進入了民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/731.wav",
        "text": "時代這麼多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/732.wav",
        "text": "這麼開放的一個社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/733.wav",
        "text": "說要修訂憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/734.wav",
        "text": "定法定總額就是15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/735.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權時只"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/736.wav",
        "text": "只要打掉幾個就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/737.wav",
        "text": "沒啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/738.wav",
        "text": "沒啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/739.wav",
        "text": "6個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/740.wav",
        "text": "會不會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/741.wav",
        "text": "就像你講的很有可能發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/742.wav",
        "text": "那你怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/743.wav",
        "text": "99%確實是人民在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/744.wav",
        "text": "所提起的憲法訴訟啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/745.wav",
        "text": "真正由行政部門提交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/746.wav",
        "text": "不到1%啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/747.wav",
        "text": "不到1%啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/748.wav",
        "text": "\n對於一個政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/749.wav",
        "text": "機關提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/750.wav",
        "text": "假設你認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/751.wav",
        "text": "那都是民進黨的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/752.wav",
        "text": "假設你這樣認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/753.wav",
        "text": "哪一個政黨提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/754.wav",
        "text": "全部都是看哪一個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/755.wav",
        "text": "我從剛剛講到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/756.wav",
        "text": "白色恐怖那麼愛殺老百姓的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/757.wav",
        "text": "我們也沒有這樣質疑它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/758.wav",
        "text": "啊何況現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/759.wav",
        "text": "是各個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/760.wav",
        "text": "每個人一把號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/761.wav",
        "text": "不管是要直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/762.wav",
        "text": "或者開記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/763.wav",
        "text": "都可以直接向民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/764.wav",
        "text": "對人民直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/765.wav",
        "text": "可是經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/766.wav",
        "text": "如果到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/767.wav",
        "text": "實質癱瘓掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/768.wav",
        "text": "再想一下啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/769.wav",
        "text": "你也應該很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/770.wav",
        "text": "是很有可能發生的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/771.wav",
        "text": "很有可能要發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/772.wav",
        "text": "\n過去的經驗也告訴我們啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/773.wav",
        "text": "這都不是好事情啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/774.wav",
        "text": "你也可以當8年啊而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/775.wav",
        "text": "我再會做也不能當太久啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/776.wav",
        "text": "只能再當立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/777.wav",
        "text": "啦不要以為當了立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/778.wav",
        "text": "我幾乎從來沒有批評你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/779.wav",
        "text": "你很清楚我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/780.wav",
        "text": "從來不批評你的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/781.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/782.wav",
        "text": "這個條文一通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/783.wav",
        "text": "喔可不是巫婆可以做解釋的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/784.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/785.wav",
        "text": "你提這種案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/786.wav",
        "text": "我真的質疑你的法律素養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/787.wav",
        "text": "因為你說理不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/788.wav",
        "text": "我很持平地講說理不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/789.wav",
        "text": "說理不夠啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/790.wav",
        "text": "我就不相信你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/791.wav",
        "text": "們中國國民黨裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/792.wav",
        "text": "學法的人全部都變成法盲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/793.wav",
        "text": "你這個提案確實說理不夠啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/794.wav",
        "text": "我甚至懷疑你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/795.wav",
        "text": "真的是學法律的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/796.wav",
        "text": "我開始懷疑喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/797.wav",
        "text": "我是在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/798.wav",
        "text": "我提出這一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/799.wav",
        "text": "就是你怎麼會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/800.wav",
        "text": "貿然你知道會發生什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/801.wav",
        "text": "莊委員我做事從來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/802.wav",
        "text": "不會貿然都是深思熟慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/803.wav",
        "text": "我不是跟你講了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/804.wav",
        "text": "我就講這些給你聽等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/805.wav",
        "text": "委員先等一下喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/806.wav",
        "text": "莊委員你也不要問他是不是學法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/807.wav",
        "text": "有他是不是學法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/808.wav",
        "text": "的我不知道我是說他提這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/809.wav",
        "text": "案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/810.wav",
        "text": "我就會質疑他的正當性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/811.wav",
        "text": "就那麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/812.wav",
        "text": "而是就我提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/813.wav",
        "text": "這些理由表達懷疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/814.wav",
        "text": "理性好好談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/815.wav",
        "text": "可是你剛剛已經批評到我的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/816.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得我需要出來回應啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/817.wav",
        "text": "我是就事論事批評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/818.wav",
        "text": "不是你的底子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/819.wav",
        "text": "我要為你拍手也不一定啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/820.wav",
        "text": "我大大地為你拍手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/821.wav",
        "text": "我是說你這個條文讓我這樣質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/822.wav",
        "text": "好不好不要誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/823.wav",
        "text": "沈委員要發表意見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/824.wav",
        "text": "好剛剛鍾委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/825.wav",
        "text": "還有莊委員都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/826.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在還要再把這件事情講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/827.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/828.wav",
        "text": "其他國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/829.wav",
        "text": "的憲法法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/830.wav",
        "text": "幾乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/831.wav",
        "text": "都有最低的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/832.wav",
        "text": "職權人數門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/833.wav",
        "text": "或做成判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/834.wav",
        "text": "的門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/835.wav",
        "text": "但是我們臺灣沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/836.wav",
        "text": "以至於依現在的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/837.wav",
        "text": "現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/838.wav",
        "text": "就可以做成憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/839.wav",
        "text": "判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/840.wav",
        "text": "這樣的情況基本上違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/841.wav",
        "text": "我們講到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/842.wav",
        "text": "而且大家要知道大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/843.wav",
        "text": "是解釋憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/844.wav",
        "text": "上已經在造憲啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/845.wav",
        "text": "我們要修改一條憲法條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/846.wav",
        "text": "的門檻是多高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/847.wav",
        "text": "不僅立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/848.wav",
        "text": "要四分之三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/849.wav",
        "text": "出席三分之二同意通過才能提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/850.wav",
        "text": "還要經過全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/851.wav",
        "text": "人民過半數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/852.wav",
        "text": "同意的複決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/853.wav",
        "text": "才可以修憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/854.wav",
        "text": "而大法官少少幾個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/855.wav",
        "text": "透過解釋憲法的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/856.wav",
        "text": "就可以造憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/857.wav",
        "text": "這樣的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/858.wav",
        "text": "危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/859.wav",
        "text": "\n在其他國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/860.wav",
        "text": "的法官若要宣告法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/861.wav",
        "text": "違憲都要三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/862.wav",
        "text": "同意啊而我國現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/863.wav",
        "text": "二分之一同意再加上我剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/864.wav",
        "text": "說的以現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/865.wav",
        "text": "留任的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/866.wav",
        "text": "不管人數多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/867.wav",
        "text": "都可以做成憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/868.wav",
        "text": "這樣規定合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/869.wav",
        "text": "\n我在這邊想請教秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/870.wav",
        "text": "對於整個憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/871.wav",
        "text": "訴訟法的規定大概十分了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/872.wav",
        "text": "今天有死刑犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/873.wav",
        "text": "再度聲請釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/874.wav",
        "text": "認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/875.wav",
        "text": "死刑是違憲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/876.wav",
        "text": "以現在剩下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/877.wav",
        "text": "8位大法官可不可以受理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/878.wav",
        "text": "這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/879.wav",
        "text": "們是不是可以開憲法法庭的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/880.wav",
        "text": "會議做成評議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/881.wav",
        "text": "那跟委員報告當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/882.wav",
        "text": "現在是以現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/883.wav",
        "text": "現有總額是可以由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/884.wav",
        "text": "假設現在是8位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/885.wav",
        "text": "嘛就由8位決定是否受理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/886.wav",
        "text": "8位然後呢多少人同意就可以通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/887.wav",
        "text": "三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/888.wav",
        "text": "總額過半數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/889.wav",
        "text": "總額過半數是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/890.wav",
        "text": "5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/891.wav",
        "text": "好5位大法官就可以做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/892.wav",
        "text": "宣告死刑違憲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/893.wav",
        "text": "憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/894.wav",
        "text": "像很多國家又怕太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/895.wav",
        "text": "這是一個假設情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/896.wav",
        "text": "假設大法官再去解釋那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/897.wav",
        "text": "是不是有些國家認為釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/898.wav",
        "text": "釋憲就是以現有的繼續執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/899.wav",
        "text": "就維持15個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/900.wav",
        "text": "像有的國家就是這個樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/901.wav",
        "text": "我現在是秘書長你不要這樣跟我兜圈子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/902.wav",
        "text": "我現在問的是以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/903.wav",
        "text": "現行我國憲法訴訟法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/904.wav",
        "text": "如果大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/905.wav",
        "text": "再度針對死刑案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/906.wav",
        "text": "進行釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/907.wav",
        "text": "死刑違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/908.wav",
        "text": "是不是5位大法官就可以做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/909.wav",
        "text": "接任的大法官已經在大院這邊審酌了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/910.wav",
        "text": "現在8位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/911.wav",
        "text": "你要這麼迴避嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/912.wav",
        "text": "我真的覺得你做為司法院的副秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/913.wav",
        "text": "代理秘書長身為一個法律人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/914.wav",
        "text": "卻不敢講這個問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/915.wav",
        "text": "副秘書長您也是法律人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/916.wav",
        "text": "過去也擔任法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/917.wav",
        "text": "應該很了解憲法訴訟法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/918.wav",
        "text": "你就說5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/919.wav",
        "text": "就可能做成難道不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/920.wav",
        "text": "這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/921.wav",
        "text": "只是問你簡單的數學問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/922.wav",
        "text": "5位就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/923.wav",
        "text": "做成對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/924.wav",
        "text": "這麼極端的情形我們希望不要發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/925.wav",
        "text": "我只能說我就是對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/926.wav",
        "text": "司法院現在的表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/927.wav",
        "text": "非常不滿感慨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/928.wav",
        "text": "你們太膽怯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/929.wav",
        "text": "這麼簡單的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/930.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/931.wav",
        "text": "不是學法律的也都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/932.wav",
        "text": "規定就是如此計算方式就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/933.wav",
        "text": "所以不要在那邊跟我講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/934.wav",
        "text": "極不極端的問題發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/935.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/936.wav",
        "text": "\n你現在講的狀況是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/937.wav",
        "text": "如果8位大法官全員出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/938.wav",
        "text": "或是有6位出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/939.wav",
        "text": "5人做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/940.wav",
        "text": "請問現在留任的8位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/941.wav",
        "text": "裡面有幾個是實務界的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/942.wav",
        "text": "現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/943.wav",
        "text": "法官有3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/944.wav",
        "text": "1位是檢察官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/945.wav",
        "text": "好\n如果這3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/946.wav",
        "text": "3位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/947.wav",
        "text": "實務界出身的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/948.wav",
        "text": "都曾經參與聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/949.wav",
        "text": "聲請釋憲案當事人的相關案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/950.wav",
        "text": "要不要迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/951.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/952.wav",
        "text": "所以呢8位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/953.wav",
        "text": "裡面如果有3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/954.wav",
        "text": "大法官曾經參與先前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/955.wav",
        "text": "案子的審理是不是要迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/956.wav",
        "text": "嘛要迴避以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/957.wav",
        "text": "之前是有迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/958.wav",
        "text": "以現在的規定來講就是要迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/959.wav",
        "text": "嘛是不是依照第十二條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/960.wav",
        "text": "是不是要迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/961.wav",
        "text": "是吧對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/962.wav",
        "text": "8位扣掉3位後就是5位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/963.wav",
        "text": "開庭審理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/964.wav",
        "text": "嘛那做成判決的是幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/965.wav",
        "text": "以之前的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/966.wav",
        "text": "只有1位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/967.wav",
        "text": "大法官曾經參與死刑審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/968.wav",
        "text": "其他都沒有參與過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/969.wav",
        "text": "唉我現在就是在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/970.wav",
        "text": "副秘書長如果你一直不回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/971.wav",
        "text": "問題我們是不是可以請楊廳長回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/972.wav",
        "text": "因為你搞不清楚狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/973.wav",
        "text": "但你還是一直聽不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/974.wav",
        "text": "解釋我們是認為不太會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/975.wav",
        "text": "不要說不會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/976.wav",
        "text": "法律是不是就在於防弊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/977.wav",
        "text": "就是防止極端的情況發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/978.wav",
        "text": "而且我現在是在講一個合理的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/979.wav",
        "text": "喔如果今天剩下的8位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/980.wav",
        "text": "周全地做規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/981.wav",
        "text": "迴避剩下的大法官幾位可以做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/982.wav",
        "text": "同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/983.wav",
        "text": "憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/984.wav",
        "text": "按照委員的設題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/985.wav",
        "text": "3位大法官都要迴避的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/986.wav",
        "text": "當然是5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/987.wav",
        "text": "呢5位是開庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/988.wav",
        "text": "按照第十二條扣除3位之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/989.wav",
        "text": "5位是對現有總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/990.wav",
        "text": "所以現有總額的三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/991.wav",
        "text": "出席是幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/992.wav",
        "text": "好至少3位出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/993.wav",
        "text": "現有總額的一半一樣是3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/994.wav",
        "text": "好所以3位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/995.wav",
        "text": "出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/996.wav",
        "text": "3位大法官通過就可以做成一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/997.wav",
        "text": "宣告死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/998.wav",
        "text": "違憲的憲法裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/999.wav",
        "text": "不用說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1000.wav",
        "text": "因為我就是假設一個案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1001.wav",
        "text": "因為針對死刑相關案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1002.wav",
        "text": "法官出身的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1003.wav",
        "text": "來說只有蔡彩貞大法官曾經審理過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1004.wav",
        "text": "其中的原案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1005.wav",
        "text": "呂太郎大法官跟楊惠欽大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1006.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有審理過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1007.wav",
        "text": "好那是不是還有尤伯祥律師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1008.wav",
        "text": "某件個案裡擔任過個案的訴訟代理人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1009.wav",
        "text": "所以除非剛好是這件個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1010.wav",
        "text": "才會有迴避的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1011.wav",
        "text": "好我現在就是舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1012.wav",
        "text": "而舉例的問題就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1013.wav",
        "text": "很多極端的情況想清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1014.wav",
        "text": "防止這種極端的情形出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1015.wav",
        "text": "這就是為什麼其他國家都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1016.wav",
        "text": "特別規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1017.wav",
        "text": "但是臺灣現在沒有臺灣沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1018.wav",
        "text": "至於大法官能不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1019.wav",
        "text": "補齊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1020.wav",
        "text": "大法官空轉會不會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1021.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭癱瘓這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1022.wav",
        "text": "跟修法無關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1023.wav",
        "text": "我必須說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1024.wav",
        "text": "跟修法無關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1025.wav",
        "text": "大法官空轉是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1026.wav",
        "text": "這個法律造成的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1027.wav",
        "text": "坦白說不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1028.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1029.wav",
        "text": "大法官的人事審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1030.wav",
        "text": "順利通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1031.wav",
        "text": "7個大法官都順利通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1032.wav",
        "text": "或至少兩個大法官順利通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1033.wav",
        "text": "不會造成憲法法庭癱瘓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1034.wav",
        "text": "審查的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1035.wav",
        "text": "不適合不會讓他的同意案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1036.wav",
        "text": "這個責任可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1037.wav",
        "text": "怪罪到立法院嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1038.wav",
        "text": "這部分我想說明的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1039.wav",
        "text": "整個現有總額的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1040.wav",
        "text": "從國民政府遷臺之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1041.wav",
        "text": "提名權同意權與任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1042.wav",
        "text": "有可能造成憲政機關的人員缺額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1043.wav",
        "text": "其實就有缺額5人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1044.wav",
        "text": "所以來臺灣當時大法官只有12個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1045.wav",
        "text": "也一直在這樣的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1046.wav",
        "text": "有委員所擔心的可能情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1047.wav",
        "text": "不過一直以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1048.wav",
        "text": "其實即便是最多缺額時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1049.wav",
        "text": "就是陳水扁總統那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1050.wav",
        "text": "曾經有4位被否決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1051.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭大法官會議還是以11位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1052.wav",
        "text": "進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1053.wav",
        "text": "所以整個制度的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1054.wav",
        "text": "是希望不要有極端情形造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1055.wav",
        "text": "所以會造成制度的美意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1056.wav",
        "text": "現實上就會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1057.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭沒辦法運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1058.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1059.wav",
        "text": "第二點我可不可以補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1060.wav",
        "text": "5位大法官或3位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1061.wav",
        "text": "做成的憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1062.wav",
        "text": "跟10位大法官做成的憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1063.wav",
        "text": "會不會有差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1064.wav",
        "text": "我可以舉德國聯邦憲法法院為例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1065.wav",
        "text": "16個法官分兩庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1066.wav",
        "text": "一庭只有8個法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1067.wav",
        "text": "他們宣告法律違憲要多少法官同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1068.wav",
        "text": "你只要告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1069.wav",
        "text": "他們宣告法律違憲的大法官需要多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1070.wav",
        "text": "他們其實只要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1071.wav",
        "text": "6個人出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1072.wav",
        "text": "4個法官就可以宣告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1073.wav",
        "text": "翁委員他們分庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1074.wav",
        "text": "之後一個庭只有8個法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1075.wav",
        "text": "而已其實他們做成判決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1076.wav",
        "text": "同意門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1077.wav",
        "text": "以人數來說甚至是比臺灣更低的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1078.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣我們則沒有分庭審理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1079.wav",
        "text": "而是一整個大庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1080.wav",
        "text": "那你告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1081.wav",
        "text": "德國聯邦憲法法院的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1082.wav",
        "text": "怎麼產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1083.wav",
        "text": "是總統一個人提名的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1084.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1085.wav",
        "text": "怎麼產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1086.wav",
        "text": "這部分我可不可以核對一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1087.wav",
        "text": "資料再跟您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1088.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會是總統一個人提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1089.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會是內閣的一個人提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1090.wav",
        "text": "而是國會各方面大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1091.wav",
        "text": "有共識共同認為這些大法官是適合的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1092.wav",
        "text": "\n我要強調的地方就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1093.wav",
        "text": "現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1094.wav",
        "text": "我還沒提到大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1095.wav",
        "text": "提名的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1096.wav",
        "text": "但是很清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1097.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1098.wav",
        "text": "無論如何他們也都還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1099.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊現在有三分之二作門檻嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1100.wav",
        "text": "人家的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1101.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1102.wav",
        "text": "有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1103.wav",
        "text": "日本你為什麼不講法國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1104.wav",
        "text": "日本做成判決是採簡單多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1105.wav",
        "text": "法國也採簡單多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1106.wav",
        "text": "但他們有沒有最低門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1107.wav",
        "text": "有但是他們有搭配配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1108.wav",
        "text": "他們的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1109.wav",
        "text": "而司法院在意的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1110.wav",
        "text": "如果我們在沒有配套措施的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1111.wav",
        "text": "額這樣會讓我們沒辦法如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1112.wav",
        "text": "司法院在乎的是沒有配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1113.wav",
        "text": "你們之後可以提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1114.wav",
        "text": "那你們為什麼不提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1115.wav",
        "text": "在憲法訴訟法第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1116.wav",
        "text": "讓你們可以定審理規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1117.wav",
        "text": "今天我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1118.wav",
        "text": "有些項目不適合立法授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1119.wav",
        "text": "讓司法院訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1120.wav",
        "text": "這就是我對立法政策的選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1121.wav",
        "text": "我對立法形成自由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1122.wav",
        "text": "有立法裁量的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1123.wav",
        "text": "這就是政策的選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1124.wav",
        "text": "有什麼錯誤的地方嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1125.wav",
        "text": "合憲的而且屬於立法者的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1126.wav",
        "text": "政策裁量空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1127.wav",
        "text": "講法其實都是在正常狀況底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1128.wav",
        "text": "不會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1129.wav",
        "text": "但現在就是有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1130.wav",
        "text": "出現不正常的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1131.wav",
        "text": "不正常狀況下的憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1132.wav",
        "text": "所做出來的憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1133.wav",
        "text": "錯誤不當的憲法裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1134.wav",
        "text": "這個憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1135.wav",
        "text": "會比大法官不做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1136.wav",
        "text": "裁判來得可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1137.wav",
        "text": "簡單來說我再重複一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1138.wav",
        "text": "錯誤不當的憲法裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1139.wav",
        "text": "會比不做憲法裁判更為可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1140.wav",
        "text": "\n大法官空轉這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1141.wav",
        "text": "跟賴清德有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1142.wav",
        "text": "不會跟立法院有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1143.wav",
        "text": "但大法官停擺這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1144.wav",
        "text": "不要怪罪到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1145.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是在建立制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1146.wav",
        "text": "讓臺灣憲法訴訟憲法裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1147.wav",
        "text": "朝向更為合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1148.wav",
        "text": "更為健全的方向發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1149.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1150.wav",
        "text": "高門檻的判決會走回頭路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1151.wav",
        "text": "他為什麼不去對大法官說這句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1152.wav",
        "text": "死刑有條件合憲的判決裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1153.wav",
        "text": "要求各審級法院的法官都要一致決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1154.wav",
        "text": "啊他怎麼不去批評大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1155.wav",
        "text": "然後我們現在提高這個高門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1156.wav",
        "text": "還沒有到一致決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1157.wav",
        "text": "耶從二分之一提高到三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1158.wav",
        "text": "過去這麼多年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1159.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議不是都能夠運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1160.wav",
        "text": "是無法做出大法官解釋嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1161.wav",
        "text": "並不會啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1162.wav",
        "text": "就是因為現在看到這些年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1163.wav",
        "text": "大法官做成憲法判決荒腔走板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1164.wav",
        "text": "這已經是很多的法律學者都認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1165.wav",
        "text": "憲法訴訟法必須要修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1166.wav",
        "text": "大法官的評議門檻要提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1167.wav",
        "text": "現有總量明定成為法定員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1168.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠讓憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1169.wav",
        "text": "有更多的大法官可以實質的去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1170.wav",
        "text": "參與討論及出席做成評議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1171.wav",
        "text": "\n現在看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1172.wav",
        "text": "一直在杯葛這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1173.wav",
        "text": "很多的律師口口聲聲說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1174.wav",
        "text": "這個法律條文通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1175.wav",
        "text": "會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1176.wav",
        "text": "人民的聲請釋憲權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1177.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1178.wav",
        "text": "司法院也報告過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1179.wav",
        "text": "或99%的人民聲請案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1180.wav",
        "text": "幾乎有97%或是95%的案子是被駁回的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1181.wav",
        "text": "是不受理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1182.wav",
        "text": "你們現在在憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1183.wav",
        "text": "還有三四百零件的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1184.wav",
        "text": "已經受理了但是沒有審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1185.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不趕快審呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1186.wav",
        "text": "你們才是耽擱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1187.wav",
        "text": "留任的這78位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1188.wav",
        "text": "哪些人民的聲請案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1189.wav",
        "text": "可以受理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1190.wav",
        "text": "哪些人民聲請案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1191.wav",
        "text": "不可以受理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1192.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1193.wav",
        "text": "人民才會大反彈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1194.wav",
        "text": "因為聲請的100件案件當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1195.wav",
        "text": "有97件都是被駁回的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1196.wav",
        "text": "那人民不會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1197.wav",
        "text": "更無法相信憲法法庭嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1198.wav",
        "text": "為什麼少少的3位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1199.wav",
        "text": "就可以決定今天我的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1200.wav",
        "text": "可以就不受理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1201.wav",
        "text": "委員我可以跟您說明一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1202.wav",
        "text": "針對你剛剛這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1203.wav",
        "text": "容我補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1204.wav",
        "text": "已經受理的案子只有28件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1205.wav",
        "text": "當然還有包括其他併案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1206.wav",
        "text": "還沒有受理還沒有處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1207.wav",
        "text": "為什麼都還沒有處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1208.wav",
        "text": "當然這個部分涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1209.wav",
        "text": "在等相關機關函復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1210.wav",
        "text": "復今年不可諱言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1211.wav",
        "text": "因為死刑案跟國會法案這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1212.wav",
        "text": "占據了我們蠻多評議時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1213.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1214.wav",
        "text": "所以你們也是選擇性辦案嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1215.wav",
        "text": "第二點我跟委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1216.wav",
        "text": "因為針對死刑案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1217.wav",
        "text": "他個人在人權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1218.wav",
        "text": "要做一個具有里程碑意義的憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1219.wav",
        "text": "國會改革法案也是一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1220.wav",
        "text": "他有那麼急嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1221.wav",
        "text": "本來也沒有那麼急啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1222.wav",
        "text": "然後你們就開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1223.wav",
        "text": "不應該受理還是受理啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1224.wav",
        "text": "所以這是大法官選擇性辦案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1225.wav",
        "text": "人民的聲請釋憲權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1226.wav",
        "text": "利該審理的不審理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1227.wav",
        "text": "沒關係你不用再說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1228.wav",
        "text": "謝謝你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1229.wav",
        "text": "剛剛所講到的幾個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1230.wav",
        "text": "沒有就是講得很清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1231.wav",
        "text": "啊就是他們的一些案子就是沒有審啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1232.wav",
        "text": "就讓少少的幾位大法官去審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1233.wav",
        "text": "這樣做出來的判決能夠讓人信服嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1234.wav",
        "text": "不是維持現行法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1235.wav",
        "text": "是同樣的邏輯啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1236.wav",
        "text": "人民會一直信服嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1237.wav",
        "text": "\n我告訴你其實簡單來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1238.wav",
        "text": "就是你少數大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1239.wav",
        "text": "做成的憲法裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1240.wav",
        "text": "不會讓當事人覺得這是有公信力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1241.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我跟委員補充一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1242.wav",
        "text": "同時對於很多人來講也無法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1243.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員說我們對人民聲請案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1244.wav",
        "text": "不受理的比例很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1245.wav",
        "text": "不受理的比例比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1246.wav",
        "text": "這是每一個國家的憲法法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1247.wav",
        "text": "都會有的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1248.wav",
        "text": "但是我要說明的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1249.wav",
        "text": "目前我們新制施行以來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1250.wav",
        "text": "51則判決裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1251.wav",
        "text": "絕大多數都是人民聲請而做成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1252.wav",
        "text": "是啊你們一年只做成多少判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1253.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1254.wav",
        "text": "才20個嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1255.wav",
        "text": "你們今年做了幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1256.wav",
        "text": "我你們早該努力去審理那些案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1257.wav",
        "text": "我們連人民聲請暫時處分的案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1258.wav",
        "text": "我們連人民聲請暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1259.wav",
        "text": "有急迫性案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1260.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我現在有幾個聲請暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1261.wav",
        "text": "不用在那邊說嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1262.wav",
        "text": "沒有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1263.wav",
        "text": "有有有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1264.wav",
        "text": "我們最近都有收到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1265.wav",
        "text": "你們什麼都可以做啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1266.wav",
        "text": "而且我告訴你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1267.wav",
        "text": "這是你們的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1268.wav",
        "text": "我還是回到我剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1269.wav",
        "text": "錯誤不當的憲法裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1270.wav",
        "text": "比不做成更可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1271.wav",
        "text": "在大法官沒有足額之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1272.wav",
        "text": "你們所做的這些憲法判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1273.wav",
        "text": "都會被民眾強烈的質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1274.wav",
        "text": "下一位請麥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1275.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1276.wav",
        "text": "各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1277.wav",
        "text": "對此由翁曉玲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1278.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1279.wav",
        "text": "客觀的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1280.wav",
        "text": "但是我們已經要來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1281.wav",
        "text": "我們就是為了要協商才來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1282.wav",
        "text": "不是說誰大誰小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1283.wav",
        "text": "我們從2月1日到現在都沒有變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1284.wav",
        "text": "我們談的就是制衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1285.wav",
        "text": "互相監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1286.wav",
        "text": "互相尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1287.wav",
        "text": "但是我們今天來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1288.wav",
        "text": "看到兩黨都有爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1289.wav",
        "text": "提議是不是保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1290.wav",
        "text": "送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1291.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1292.wav",
        "text": "表示就是黨團的意見大家不一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1293.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請沈委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1294.wav",
        "text": "現在同一個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1295.wav",
        "text": "有非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1296.wav",
        "text": "括大法官的人事案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1297.wav",
        "text": "議題同時間在協商是院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1298.wav",
        "text": "跟召委協商的不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1299.wav",
        "text": "但這個時間是衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1300.wav",
        "text": "的啦所以我一直還是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1301.wav",
        "text": "我們這一個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1302.wav",
        "text": "看起來還是有討論的可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1303.wav",
        "text": "但是應該要延後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1304.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不是保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1305.wav",
        "text": "所以我不贊成麥委員的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1306.wav",
        "text": "說什麼保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1307.wav",
        "text": "我們的確應該都還是有討論的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1308.wav",
        "text": "因為從剛剛發言到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1309.wav",
        "text": "每一個人的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1310.wav",
        "text": "其實非常聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1311.wav",
        "text": "所以我的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1312.wav",
        "text": "應該要往後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1313.wav",
        "text": "而不是保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1314.wav",
        "text": "到最後由院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1315.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1316.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1317.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們要繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1318.wav",
        "text": "這個案件在社會上的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1319.wav",
        "text": "其實非常非常的大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1320.wav",
        "text": "大家也知道明天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1321.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道召委也有批評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1322.wav",
        "text": "說這是一個什麼綠營側翼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1323.wav",
        "text": "但是我要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1324.wav",
        "text": "還有全律和北律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1325.wav",
        "text": "應該不太可能全部是側翼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1326.wav",
        "text": "在那麼重大的爭議的狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1327.wav",
        "text": "是不是大家能夠緩一緩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1328.wav",
        "text": "的我們所爭執的點是很聚焦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1329.wav",
        "text": "\n我現在回到我們這個爭議點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1330.wav",
        "text": "因為等一下還要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1331.wav",
        "text": "另外一場協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1332.wav",
        "text": "一直提到很多的極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1333.wav",
        "text": "我還是要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1334.wav",
        "text": "發生的百分比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1335.wav",
        "text": "有可能是1%0.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1336.wav",
        "text": "結果你因為1%可能發生的機率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1337.wav",
        "text": "然後要把整個制度做修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1338.wav",
        "text": "這不是很奇怪的事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1339.wav",
        "text": "如果你認為有1%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1340.wav",
        "text": "2%的機率會發生極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1341.wav",
        "text": "那你不是應該要做一些條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1342.wav",
        "text": "去針對這個1%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1343.wav",
        "text": "跟2%的極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1344.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼可能會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1345.wav",
        "text": "因為1%的極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1346.wav",
        "text": "然後要把整個的規則修掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1347.wav",
        "text": "法律原則沒有人在這樣跑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1348.wav",
        "text": "我覺得非常重要的一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1349.wav",
        "text": "就是在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1350.wav",
        "text": "如果我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1351.wav",
        "text": "真的認為有極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1352.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1353.wav",
        "text": "譬如死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1354.wav",
        "text": "然後多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1355.wav",
        "text": "依照我們現在迴避的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1356.wav",
        "text": "就算到最後只有5個人決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1357.wav",
        "text": "或就算最後只有3個人決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1358.wav",
        "text": "這其實是正常現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1359.wav",
        "text": "這也不是什麼極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1360.wav",
        "text": "因為畢竟如果他該迴避的就迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1361.wav",
        "text": "如果是人數不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1362.wav",
        "text": "人數不足是立法院這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1363.wav",
        "text": "要不要審的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1364.wav",
        "text": "這是政治問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1365.wav",
        "text": "所以如果因為政治的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1366.wav",
        "text": "因為立法院的人事還沒有出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1367.wav",
        "text": "其他的國家在針對這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1368.wav",
        "text": "是有針對延任的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1369.wav",
        "text": "德國就有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1370.wav",
        "text": "啊我們國家沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1371.wav",
        "text": "如果你真的很害怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1372.wav",
        "text": "這樣的極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1373.wav",
        "text": "那就把類似德國這樣延任的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1374.wav",
        "text": "訂到我們的法律一條而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1375.wav",
        "text": "這樣不就搞定了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1376.wav",
        "text": "這不是一個條文就可以解決的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1377.wav",
        "text": "結果你要把整個現有總額的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1378.wav",
        "text": "做修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1379.wav",
        "text": "這個法律原則上就一定不符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1380.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我認同剛剛莊委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1381.wav",
        "text": "這是一個法律素養的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1382.wav",
        "text": "是法律的ABC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1383.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有人修法是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1384.wav",
        "text": "我昨天也才跟莊委員講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1385.wav",
        "text": "你不能說今天門鎖鬆了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1386.wav",
        "text": "門鎖鬆了的第一件事情是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1387.wav",
        "text": "你要把門鎖拴緊嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1388.wav",
        "text": "你要找鎖匠把這個門鎖看一看嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1389.wav",
        "text": "又或者我們從今天開始就不要鎖門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1390.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可能會有人用這樣的方式來修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1391.wav",
        "text": "所以這個一開始的動機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1392.wav",
        "text": "還有一開始所講的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1393.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個是第十二條的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1394.wav",
        "text": "第十二條是在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1395.wav",
        "text": "迴避該怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1396.wav",
        "text": "司法院其實講的很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1397.wav",
        "text": "跟目前第四條會直接矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1398.wav",
        "text": "矛盾在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1399.wav",
        "text": "第四條現有總額現在直接拉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1400.wav",
        "text": "跟法定總額一樣它是個定額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1401.wav",
        "text": "今天第十二條是浮動數額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1402.wav",
        "text": "這個在數學上你要怎麼用浮動數額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1403.wav",
        "text": "然後用現有的法定總額做計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1404.wav",
        "text": "這就是算不了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1405.wav",
        "text": "啊這是一個天生的矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1406.wav",
        "text": "這是數學問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1407.wav",
        "text": "剛剛在樓上協商所謂各政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1408.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨也犯了一模一樣的錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1409.wav",
        "text": "今天到底要771還是要761的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1410.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨直接算1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1411.wav",
        "text": "數學沒有人這樣算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1412.wav",
        "text": "所以我真的還沒有想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1413.wav",
        "text": "我們都已經在國會殿堂上面了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1414.wav",
        "text": "結果我們還要針對那麼簡單的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1415.wav",
        "text": "國中生的數學問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1416.wav",
        "text": "來做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1417.wav",
        "text": "然後這個還竟然可以出委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1418.wav",
        "text": "然後在協商這邊要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1419.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個不能夠接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1420.wav",
        "text": "啦\n再來還有新舊法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1421.wav",
        "text": "我都先不要講剛剛莊委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1422.wav",
        "text": "每一個地方的門檻到底有沒有一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1423.wav",
        "text": "如果現在我們新舊法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1424.wav",
        "text": "產生爭議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1425.wav",
        "text": "到底哪些情況要用新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1426.wav",
        "text": "哪些情況要用舊法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1427.wav",
        "text": "這個裡面沒有講耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1428.wav",
        "text": "如果之後就要二讀三讀請問這個爭議該怎麼解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1429.wav",
        "text": "然後更不要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1430.wav",
        "text": "剛剛莊委員有提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1431.wav",
        "text": "門檻本來是有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1432.wav",
        "text": "比較需要慎重的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1433.wav",
        "text": "我們可能要三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1434.wav",
        "text": "有一些情形我們可能需要二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1435.wav",
        "text": "如果一致化全部都用三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1436.wav",
        "text": "來解決的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1437.wav",
        "text": "那原來這個比例原則針對不同的案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1438.wav",
        "text": "要做不同的處理的那個差別何在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1439.wav",
        "text": "這個法律原則就已經不具備了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1440.wav",
        "text": "嘛我以為比例原則還算是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1441.wav",
        "text": "憲法的ABC它是公法的ABC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1442.wav",
        "text": "剛剛他們一直提到可是他們人都走掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1443.wav",
        "text": "所以我也不知道這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1444.wav",
        "text": "到底意義在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1445.wav",
        "text": "明明所有的問題都攤在這一邊了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1446.wav",
        "text": "明明所有的問題都可以去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1447.wav",
        "text": "那就這樣走掉那我們怎麼要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1448.wav",
        "text": "所以我就說這個排的時間真的有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1449.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1450.wav",
        "text": "一天到晚講國會自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1451.wav",
        "text": "我講兩個點就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1452.wav",
        "text": "如果國會要自治難道司法不用自治嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1453.wav",
        "text": "司法獨立比我們的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1454.wav",
        "text": "的自治還要來得更強大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1455.wav",
        "text": "今天第4條明白規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1456.wav",
        "text": "說這個如何審理的規則是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1457.wav",
        "text": "司法院自行定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1458.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼我們可以在第4條直接用這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1459.wav",
        "text": "現有總額規定然後就做修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1460.wav",
        "text": "這個聽起來就沒有道理嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1461.wav",
        "text": "那如果說你真的覺得OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1462.wav",
        "text": "那個只要3個人4個人就可以做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1463.wav",
        "text": "那我必須要講品質更差的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1464.wav",
        "text": "數學不懂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1465.wav",
        "text": "邏輯不懂的法律不懂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1466.wav",
        "text": "最多的在哪裡最多的絕對不是在大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1467.wav",
        "text": "耶最多的就在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1468.wav",
        "text": "啊一堆就是剛剛坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1469.wav",
        "text": "啊這些人邏輯不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1470.wav",
        "text": "數學不好為什麼每次舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1471.wav",
        "text": "只要二分之一就可以通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1472.wav",
        "text": "你真的如果對這件事情很在意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1473.wav",
        "text": "很好啊以後我們所有的法案都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1474.wav",
        "text": "三分之二通過啊所有的法案都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1475.wav",
        "text": "四分之三通過啊你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1476.wav",
        "text": "這個難道都沒有差異了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1477.wav",
        "text": "他們現在就在做這樣的事情啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1478.wav",
        "text": "他們就把所有的標準全部一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1479.wav",
        "text": "乾脆所有都提到修憲的標準就好了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1480.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院以後就全部都這樣玩嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1481.wav",
        "text": "全部都三分之二嘛這沒有道理嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1482.wav",
        "text": "上面寫的這些理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1483.wav",
        "text": "完全不充分動機也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1484.wav",
        "text": "就派翁曉玲委員一個人出來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1485.wav",
        "text": "很明顯其他的國民黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1486.wav",
        "text": "就是要硬推這個法案要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1487.wav",
        "text": "麼現在要這樣做一個過水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1488.wav",
        "text": "請問其他的國民黨委員在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1489.wav",
        "text": "他們為什麼不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1490.wav",
        "text": "\n再來剛剛麥玉珍委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1491.wav",
        "text": "他要贊成這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1492.wav",
        "text": "當代法律黃珊珊才剛刊完文章耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1493.wav",
        "text": "才剛剛刊完文章說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1494.wav",
        "text": "他們不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1495.wav",
        "text": "翁曉玲委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1496.wav",
        "text": "那現在呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1497.wav",
        "text": "就是黃珊珊委員的意見不重要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1498.wav",
        "text": "\n2015年黃國昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1499.wav",
        "text": "跟著司改會開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1500.wav",
        "text": "記者會講了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1501.wav",
        "text": "他講這一些事情如果有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1502.wav",
        "text": "二分之一的法官就已經覺得很爛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1503.wav",
        "text": "就表示這個法律真的有夠爛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1504.wav",
        "text": "當然要用二分之一做門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1505.wav",
        "text": "這是黃國昌在2015年講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1506.wav",
        "text": "請問黃國昌講的不算數嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1507.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該打電話叫他現在來樓下說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1508.wav",
        "text": "為什麼剛剛按照麥玉珍委員的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1509.wav",
        "text": "現在要贊成國民黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1510.wav",
        "text": "\n從剛剛講到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1511.wav",
        "text": "我還有一堆都還沒有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1512.wav",
        "text": "這個所有不管是在程序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1513.wav",
        "text": "在修法的理由上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1514.wav",
        "text": "在動機上在條文的矛盾上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1515.wav",
        "text": "所有都是問題耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1516.wav",
        "text": "在那麼大的問題裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1517.wav",
        "text": "委員會已經做了那麼多的提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1518.wav",
        "text": "甚至還有一些可以直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1519.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1520.wav",
        "text": "我們這些爭議如果都不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1521.wav",
        "text": "然後到時候交給院長協商也跟今天一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1522.wav",
        "text": "講到一半人都走掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1523.wav",
        "text": "然後這個惡法就這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1524.wav",
        "text": "二讀三讀就要通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1525.wav",
        "text": "外面的聲音我們也都不用管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1526.wav",
        "text": "這個叫做重視民意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1527.wav",
        "text": "他們現在代表多數的民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1528.wav",
        "text": "現在到底傾聽在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1529.wav",
        "text": "完全不存在啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1530.wav",
        "text": "\n再回到剛剛翁委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1531.wav",
        "text": "他剛提了幾點他說其他國家都這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1532.wav",
        "text": "問題就是不一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1533.wav",
        "text": "其他國家第一個是有配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1534.wav",
        "text": "第二個其他國家的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1535.wav",
        "text": "選任大法官的方式跟我們不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1536.wav",
        "text": "嘛剛剛他硬要問德國是怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1537.wav",
        "text": "德國是內閣制耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1538.wav",
        "text": "內閣制的提名跟同意的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1539.wav",
        "text": "本來就跟臺灣不同啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1540.wav",
        "text": "所以它沒有臺灣現在這種總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1541.wav",
        "text": "提名結果立法院不審或不同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1542.wav",
        "text": "這種憲政危機的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1543.wav",
        "text": "嘛它不需要處理這個機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1544.wav",
        "text": "那麼它的規定為什麼可以用在我們身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1545.wav",
        "text": "如果國民黨那麼愛談死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1546.wav",
        "text": "那也很好啊德國廢死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1547.wav",
        "text": "如果都要抄德國的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1548.wav",
        "text": "那現在好啊OK那我就看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1549.wav",
        "text": "國民黨是不是就直接跟著德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1550.wav",
        "text": "然後現在就廢死好了因為反正什麼都要抄德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1551.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎是不是完全都不用管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1552.wav",
        "text": "文化了也不用管他們的制度了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1553.wav",
        "text": "也不要管他們的政治背景了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1554.wav",
        "text": "是不是都可以不用管了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1555.wav",
        "text": "用其他的國家怎麼樣就直接來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1556.wav",
        "text": "臺灣應該修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1557.wav",
        "text": "這是最不負責任的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1558.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個他說其他國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1559.wav",
        "text": "他說會怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1560.wav",
        "text": "然後其他的國家至少要幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1561.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛講的德國其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1562.wav",
        "text": "8加8它不是跟我們一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1563.wav",
        "text": "十幾個人全部一起做審議在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1564.wav",
        "text": "在8加8裡面6個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1565.wav",
        "text": "出席到時候也是4個人啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1566.wav",
        "text": "那請問所以翁委員是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1567.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的3位4位大法官不值得信任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1568.wav",
        "text": "德國的3位4位大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1569.wav",
        "text": "就值得信任嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1570.wav",
        "text": "這個理由不充分嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1571.wav",
        "text": "如果你認為大法官不適格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1572.wav",
        "text": "你認為大法官做的決定你不滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1573.wav",
        "text": "你有你的法學見解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1574.wav",
        "text": "我記得吳宗憲委員那時候在質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1575.wav",
        "text": "也明白的指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1576.wav",
        "text": "哪一些大法官的見解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1577.wav",
        "text": "召委不同意我覺得這樣很好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1578.wav",
        "text": "但如果你對大法官講的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1579.wav",
        "text": "那你就是在行使你的同意權的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1580.wav",
        "text": "不同意不就好了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1581.wav",
        "text": "這完全是不搭嘎的事情嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1582.wav",
        "text": "你不認同這一個大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1583.wav",
        "text": "你認為他的學術素養不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1584.wav",
        "text": "你認為他做不出這樣的一個決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1585.wav",
        "text": "那你就不同意他不就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1586.wav",
        "text": "你不同意他跟你現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1587.wav",
        "text": "要把制度直接修改成高門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1588.wav",
        "text": "直接修改成三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1589.wav",
        "text": "直接癱瘓現在憲法法庭的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1590.wav",
        "text": "這不是兩件完全不同的事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1591.wav",
        "text": "\n回到剛剛講的一模一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1592.wav",
        "text": "我們一直在設想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1593.wav",
        "text": "一些根本就不存在的極端狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1594.wav",
        "text": "更不要講說即使極端狀況出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1595.wav",
        "text": "也是被允許的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1596.wav",
        "text": "他本來就可以那樣做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1597.wav",
        "text": "結果你用極端狀況來當作一個理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1598.wav",
        "text": "然後把整套的制度都修掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1599.wav",
        "text": "最後造成傷害的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1600.wav",
        "text": "人民去聲請的這個權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1601.wav",
        "text": "最後造成傷害的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1602.wav",
        "text": "當時黃國昌在2015年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1603.wav",
        "text": "講的那麼清楚的一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1604.wav",
        "text": "他說如果再用這樣的一個高門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1605.wav",
        "text": "最後我們都沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1606.wav",
        "text": "把真正的惡法消除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1607.wav",
        "text": "這是那時候他講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1608.wav",
        "text": "的話這個同意的章也是他那時候蓋下去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1609.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我必須要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1610.wav",
        "text": "我們很不喜歡這種用過水式的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1611.wav",
        "text": "如果說一點一點來闡明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1612.wav",
        "text": "我們講的非常明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1613.wav",
        "text": "今天光是他的修法理由跟動機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1614.wav",
        "text": "他的理由就是不充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1615.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果理由不充分是不是要針對這點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1616.wav",
        "text": "再多做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1617.wav",
        "text": "而不是用剛剛那種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1618.wav",
        "text": "又回到質詢的方式問你覺得德國怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1619.wav",
        "text": "問題是我們現在就不是德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1620.wav",
        "text": "啊然後更不要講條文之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1621.wav",
        "text": "跟十二條的矛盾該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1622.wav",
        "text": "新舊法的矛盾該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1623.wav",
        "text": "這個都沒有處理啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1624.wav",
        "text": "然後本來高門檻低門檻的差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1625.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣被消滅了這也沒有處理啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1626.wav",
        "text": "這不就跟那時候國會濫權法案一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1627.wav",
        "text": "條文一堆矛盾然後就這樣出去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1628.wav",
        "text": "出去了之後然後又要被宣告違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1629.wav",
        "text": "被宣告違憲之後回來又要再重來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1630.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要浪費這樣的社會成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1631.wav",
        "text": "我們如果能夠在委員會好好討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1632.wav",
        "text": "還有在這邊好好的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1633.wav",
        "text": "不要像這樣人就這樣走掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1634.wav",
        "text": "我們能夠把它討論完不是很好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1635.wav",
        "text": "耗費社會成本是我們立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1636.wav",
        "text": "在立法院不應該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1637.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1638.wav",
        "text": "\n我們還是一樣尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1639.wav",
        "text": "每個委員的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1640.wav",
        "text": "有提到全律跟北律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1641.wav",
        "text": "全律跟北律有非常多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1642.wav",
        "text": "他們認為全律跟北律的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1643.wav",
        "text": "理事長們不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1644.wav",
        "text": "沒有問過他們的意見就發布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1645.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1646.wav",
        "text": "他們沒有問過這些會員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1647.wav",
        "text": "而且他們沒有問清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1648.wav",
        "text": "所以很多會員也分別的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1649.wav",
        "text": "理事長們的做法不滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1650.wav",
        "text": "這個跟綠營側翼有什麼關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1651.wav",
        "text": "不是啦你剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1652.wav",
        "text": "北律跟全律嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1653.wav",
        "text": "那我就這個說明這跟我們的協商無關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1654.wav",
        "text": "會員有在反映好那這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1655.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是這樣喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1656.wav",
        "text": "今天的協商其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1657.wav",
        "text": "是不成立啦那各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1658.wav",
        "text": "的意見不一啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1659.wav",
        "text": "這個不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1660.wav",
        "text": "各黨團的意見不一無法達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1661.wav",
        "text": "沒有如果有黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1662.wav",
        "text": "沒有來甚至也就是直接協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1663.wav",
        "text": "破局\n那我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1664.wav",
        "text": "協商的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1665.wav",
        "text": "發言內容都有錄音錄影"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1666.wav",
        "text": "待繼續溝通取得共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1667.wav",
        "text": "所以我們後續依據立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1668.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法第十二章的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1669.wav",
        "text": "辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16269/1670.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位現在散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/0.wav",
        "text": "7人擬具憲法訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/1.wav",
        "text": "讀由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/2.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭的穩定運作\n大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/3.wav",
        "text": "這樣的修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/4.wav",
        "text": "發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/5.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16268/6.wav",
        "text": "散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/0.wav",
        "text": "三個黨團的幹部都已經陸續到場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/2.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團的傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/3.wav",
        "text": "他們特別來報告過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/4.wav",
        "text": "但是我們就不再等了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/5.wav",
        "text": "因為開會時間已經到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/6.wav",
        "text": "了\n今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/7.wav",
        "text": "我們到場的有國家通訊傳播委員會的代理主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/8.wav",
        "text": "翁主委黃主任秘書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/9.wav",
        "text": "人事行政總處的張專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/10.wav",
        "text": "跟賴專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/11.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/12.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/13.wav",
        "text": "\n跟各位黨團幹部特別報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/14.wav",
        "text": "今天我們協商的議題總共有6個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/15.wav",
        "text": "其中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/16.wav",
        "text": "以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/17.wav",
        "text": "還有第四個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/18.wav",
        "text": "6個案子都在各位的手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/19.wav",
        "text": "今天中午程序委員會已經列入本周五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/20.wav",
        "text": "院會議程討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/21.wav",
        "text": "這3案已經也都超過一個月的冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/22.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們協商是不是就依照協商通知單的6案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/23.wav",
        "text": "順序來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/24.wav",
        "text": "請問大家有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/25.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/26.wav",
        "text": "沒有那就進行第一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/27.wav",
        "text": "通傳會組織法第十六條修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/28.wav",
        "text": "有關施行日期的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/29.wav",
        "text": "現在請各黨團幹部發表意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/30.wav",
        "text": "請台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/31.wav",
        "text": "通傳會的組織法在上個會期7月16號的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/32.wav",
        "text": "已經完成二讀跟三讀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/33.wav",
        "text": "那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/34.wav",
        "text": "在具體條文的修正上台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/35.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/36.wav",
        "text": "其實是有押施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/37.wav",
        "text": "的只不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/38.wav",
        "text": "最後台灣民眾黨黨團的提案沒有獲得多數的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/39.wav",
        "text": "獲得多數支持的是中國國民黨黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/40.wav",
        "text": "我相信當時在通過法律的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/41.wav",
        "text": "總統公布就施行了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/42.wav",
        "text": "沒想到在第十六條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/43.wav",
        "text": "以前比較早期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/44.wav",
        "text": "為了要因應整個通傳會的組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/45.wav",
        "text": "有一些相關行政的配套作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/46.wav",
        "text": "所以第十六條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/47.wav",
        "text": "把它訂成由行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/48.wav",
        "text": "以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/49.wav",
        "text": "之當然第十六條這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/50.wav",
        "text": "創造了一些解釋上面的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/51.wav",
        "text": "這個解釋上面的空間到底該怎麼解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/52.wav",
        "text": "我相信各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/53.wav",
        "text": "大家都有自己的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/54.wav",
        "text": "我不要再贅述了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/55.wav",
        "text": "重點是這次的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/56.wav",
        "text": "就是要讓通傳會組織法的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/57.wav",
        "text": "能夠解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/58.wav",
        "text": "完全控制在行政院手中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/59.wav",
        "text": "所產生的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/60.wav",
        "text": "希望在這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/61.wav",
        "text": "二讀三讀了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/62.wav",
        "text": "通傳會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/63.wav",
        "text": "就可以依法生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/64.wav",
        "text": "我們提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/65.wav",
        "text": "的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/66.wav",
        "text": "不會讓它產生溯及的效力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/67.wav",
        "text": "因為如果溯及到7月16號的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/68.wav",
        "text": "中間這個空檔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/69.wav",
        "text": "可能會產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/70.wav",
        "text": "未來運作上面的一些爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/71.wav",
        "text": "我們的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/72.wav",
        "text": "還是會把它修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/73.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五三讀通過了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/74.wav",
        "text": "公布日再施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/75.wav",
        "text": "的立法體例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/76.wav",
        "text": "會比較像目前徐欣瑩委員的21人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/77.wav",
        "text": "因為現在這個日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/78.wav",
        "text": "比較不好押"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/79.wav",
        "text": "比較不好押的原因是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/80.wav",
        "text": "於一個不太確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/81.wav",
        "text": "的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/82.wav",
        "text": "那在立法例上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/83.wav",
        "text": "到時候看秘書長還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/84.wav",
        "text": "仁有沒有什麼具體的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/85.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/86.wav",
        "text": "現在請民進黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/87.wav",
        "text": "這個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/88.wav",
        "text": "院會已經排上去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/89.wav",
        "text": "也會處理這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/90.wav",
        "text": "這個案子處理完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/91.wav",
        "text": "剛才黃總召講到一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/92.wav",
        "text": "就是總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/93.wav",
        "text": "公告後3天生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/94.wav",
        "text": "這個差不多十天內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/95.wav",
        "text": "當然以總統公告後3天生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/96.wav",
        "text": "為基準點這樣就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/97.wav",
        "text": "所以到時候就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/98.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話可能要再補提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/99.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/100.wav",
        "text": "接下來請國民黨黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/101.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/102.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/103.wav",
        "text": "就已經通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/104.wav",
        "text": "當時就是補正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/105.wav",
        "text": "任期屆滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/106.wav",
        "text": "是讓他的任期還可以延到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/107.wav",
        "text": "新任委員就職前一日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/108.wav",
        "text": "事實上上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/109.wav",
        "text": "我們的法令已經修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/110.wav",
        "text": "已經把它做一個調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/111.wav",
        "text": "可是非常遺憾的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/112.wav",
        "text": "我覺得行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/113.wav",
        "text": "真的小動作太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/114.wav",
        "text": "對於立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/115.wav",
        "text": "所通過的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/116.wav",
        "text": "沒有去把它明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/117.wav",
        "text": "而且讓這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/118.wav",
        "text": "法律條文無法實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/119.wav",
        "text": "NCC應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/120.wav",
        "text": "獨立超然性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/121.wav",
        "text": "也應該尊重我們的立法權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/122.wav",
        "text": "在立法還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/123.wav",
        "text": "這次這樣的小動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/124.wav",
        "text": "真的是不必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/125.wav",
        "text": "變成立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/126.wav",
        "text": "還要再做條文的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/127.wav",
        "text": "去補正行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/128.wav",
        "text": "的小動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/129.wav",
        "text": "針對NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/130.wav",
        "text": "第十六條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/131.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/132.wav",
        "text": "缺憾還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/133.wav",
        "text": "行政院還在搞小動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/134.wav",
        "text": "能夠得以補正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/135.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/136.wav",
        "text": "也是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/137.wav",
        "text": "修正來通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/138.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/139.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長NCC組織法第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/140.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯總召說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/141.wav",
        "text": "已經排入周五的院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/142.wav",
        "text": "院會勢必會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/143.wav",
        "text": "但是我們今天在做法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/144.wav",
        "text": "處理前的最終協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/145.wav",
        "text": "我想還是要回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/146.wav",
        "text": "法案就條文論條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/147.wav",
        "text": "我不樂見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/148.wav",
        "text": "在野黨的委員對於行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/149.wav",
        "text": "的由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/150.wav",
        "text": "之作為這個法的施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/151.wav",
        "text": "把它說是搞小動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/152.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/153.wav",
        "text": "其實跟過去的常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/154.wav",
        "text": "是大不相同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/155.wav",
        "text": "二級機關的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/156.wav",
        "text": "我們立委不要輕易地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/157.wav",
        "text": "認為每個組織法的修訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/158.wav",
        "text": "我們可能只改了一兩個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/159.wav",
        "text": "只改了一兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/160.wav",
        "text": "事實上組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/161.wav",
        "text": "攸關的是該組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/162.wav",
        "text": "能不能夠健全運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/163.wav",
        "text": "所以立委在修訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/164.wav",
        "text": "各個組織法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/165.wav",
        "text": "行政院相關的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/166.wav",
        "text": "勢必內部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/167.wav",
        "text": "必須要依據修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/168.wav",
        "text": "做很多的配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/169.wav",
        "text": "二級機關的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/170.wav",
        "text": "施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/171.wav",
        "text": "由行政院以命令定之的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/172.wav",
        "text": "共有12個部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/173.wav",
        "text": "11個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/174.wav",
        "text": "含3個獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/175.wav",
        "text": "如果加上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/176.wav",
        "text": "二級機關以降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/177.wav",
        "text": "高達208個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/178.wav",
        "text": "相關的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/179.wav",
        "text": "其組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/180.wav",
        "text": "都是施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/181.wav",
        "text": "由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/182.wav",
        "text": "之\n我可以很簡要地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/183.wav",
        "text": "地說明幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/184.wav",
        "text": "如果以獨立機關來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/185.wav",
        "text": "公平會組織法第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/186.wav",
        "text": "國家通訊傳播委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/187.wav",
        "text": "3個獨立機關的施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/188.wav",
        "text": "都是由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/189.wav",
        "text": "如果擴及其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/190.wav",
        "text": "二級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/191.wav",
        "text": "不管是內政部組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/192.wav",
        "text": "外交部組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/193.wav",
        "text": "國防部財政部法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/194.wav",
        "text": "經濟部交通部金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/195.wav",
        "text": "文化部勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/196.wav",
        "text": "數發部環境部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/197.wav",
        "text": "農業部等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/198.wav",
        "text": "乃至於其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/199.wav",
        "text": "委員會形式的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/200.wav",
        "text": "都是由行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/201.wav",
        "text": "以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/202.wav",
        "text": "原因就是我剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/203.wav",
        "text": "會牽涉到該組織內部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/204.wav",
        "text": "不論是員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/205.wav",
        "text": "不論是相關業務的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/206.wav",
        "text": "調派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/207.wav",
        "text": "都需要時間去因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/208.wav",
        "text": "所以我想在這裡要導正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/209.wav",
        "text": "幾位在野委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/210.wav",
        "text": "這一次行政院對於NCC組織法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/211.wav",
        "text": "施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/212.wav",
        "text": "由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/213.wav",
        "text": "之是長期以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/214.wav",
        "text": "基於國家法制穩定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/215.wav",
        "text": "安定性的必然運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/216.wav",
        "text": "不是利用這次NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/217.wav",
        "text": "是例外的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/218.wav",
        "text": "我想這個有必要在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/219.wav",
        "text": "清楚地說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/220.wav",
        "text": "所以依法論法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/221.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/222.wav",
        "text": "由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/223.wav",
        "text": "來訂定施行日期是合宜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/224.wav",
        "text": "是穩定的是永續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/225.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠讓在野委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/226.wav",
        "text": "因為今天主要是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/227.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/228.wav",
        "text": "不是針對上次NCC組織法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/229.wav",
        "text": "修正再重新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/230.wav",
        "text": "論述一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/231.wav",
        "text": "所以有很多話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/232.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/233.wav",
        "text": "是所有的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/234.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一開始有時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/235.wav",
        "text": "施行日期要由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/236.wav",
        "text": "因為它牽涉到組織的構成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/237.wav",
        "text": "及它的編制需要時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/238.wav",
        "text": "不是沒有原因的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/239.wav",
        "text": "但是這一次NCC組織法的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/240.wav",
        "text": "有動到組織嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/241.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/242.wav",
        "text": "有動到員額嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/243.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/244.wav",
        "text": "員額沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/245.wav",
        "text": "業務也沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/246.wav",
        "text": "怎麼還會有讓行政院來決定的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/247.wav",
        "text": "讓行政院來決定的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/248.wav",
        "text": "它所執行的荒謬現狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/249.wav",
        "text": "就像現在這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/250.wav",
        "text": "嘛讓一個根本已經不具備資格的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/251.wav",
        "text": "現在在違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/252.wav",
        "text": "代理NCC主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/253.wav",
        "text": "當然我說違法代理NCC主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/254.wav",
        "text": "這個詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/255.wav",
        "text": "他們認為他是一個合法的代理主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/256.wav",
        "text": "這個就牽涉到我剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/257.wav",
        "text": "每一個人在這件事情上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/258.wav",
        "text": "各個政黨在這個事情上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/259.wav",
        "text": "有各自的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/260.wav",
        "text": "跟觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/261.wav",
        "text": "但我們在7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/262.wav",
        "text": "二讀三讀NCC組織法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/263.wav",
        "text": "一個非常重要的目的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/264.wav",
        "text": "要把萬年延任的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/265.wav",
        "text": "這是最重要的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/266.wav",
        "text": "\n問題是現在這個目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/267.wav",
        "text": "完全被空洞化了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/268.wav",
        "text": "因為只要卓榮泰一天不施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/269.wav",
        "text": "這個萬年延任的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/270.wav",
        "text": "就持續存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/271.wav",
        "text": "所以才會產生今天這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/272.wav",
        "text": "的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/273.wav",
        "text": "\n其實這些話我必須要再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/274.wav",
        "text": "我本來就不想講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/275.wav",
        "text": "因為這裡是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/276.wav",
        "text": "各黨有各黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/277.wav",
        "text": "\n站在民進黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/278.wav",
        "text": "可能7月16日的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/279.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法的那條條文根本就不要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/280.wav",
        "text": "讓萬年延任的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/281.wav",
        "text": "繼續存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/282.wav",
        "text": "他們的立場我也理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/283.wav",
        "text": "但是我們不認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/284.wav",
        "text": "所以才會提案修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/285.wav",
        "text": "\n我是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/286.wav",
        "text": "在黨團協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/287.wav",
        "text": "大家把立場說一說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/288.wav",
        "text": "要不然又要坐時光機回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/289.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾再重新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/290.wav",
        "text": "把以前的理由再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/291.wav",
        "text": "這樣協商會變得非常冗長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/292.wav",
        "text": "\n我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/293.wav",
        "text": "夏天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/294.wav",
        "text": "的時候三讀修正通過的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/295.wav",
        "text": "能夠儘快生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/296.wav",
        "text": "然後讓整件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/297.wav",
        "text": "可以再往下走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/298.wav",
        "text": "行政院也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/299.wav",
        "text": "這個法一生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/300.wav",
        "text": "他們現在所提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/301.wav",
        "text": "NCC主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/302.wav",
        "text": "就不具備資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/303.wav",
        "text": "了所以你勢必"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/304.wav",
        "text": "要重新提名NCC主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/305.wav",
        "text": "的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/306.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/307.wav",
        "text": "就看你程序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/308.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼簡便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/309.wav",
        "text": "以解決問題的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/310.wav",
        "text": "來看我覺得行政院應該有智慧自己去想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/311.wav",
        "text": "就兩條路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/312.wav",
        "text": "嘛一條路是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/313.wav",
        "text": "現在的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/314.wav",
        "text": "審查以後不通過重新提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/315.wav",
        "text": "另外一個是你明明知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/316.wav",
        "text": "現在的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/317.wav",
        "text": "不符合7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/318.wav",
        "text": "三讀通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/319.wav",
        "text": "那個消極要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/320.wav",
        "text": "那麼讓這個法生效以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/321.wav",
        "text": "事實上對於行政院來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/322.wav",
        "text": "是有好處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/323.wav",
        "text": "的讓他們可以加速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/324.wav",
        "text": "做補辦提名的動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/325.wav",
        "text": "立法院這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/326.wav",
        "text": "也可以及早加以審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/327.wav",
        "text": "其實你如果從這個角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/328.wav",
        "text": "來想的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/329.wav",
        "text": "這是一個解決問題比較好的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/330.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/331.wav",
        "text": "有沒有需要二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/332.wav",
        "text": "好請柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/333.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/334.wav",
        "text": "有一些話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/335.wav",
        "text": "重複在講包括記者會講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/336.wav",
        "text": "也不需要再重複的講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/337.wav",
        "text": "法案在禮拜五就要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/338.wav",
        "text": "法的存在我們必須尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/339.wav",
        "text": "再去說誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/340.wav",
        "text": "有什麼立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/341.wav",
        "text": "我們應該在這裡打住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/342.wav",
        "text": "要開始面對問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/343.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/344.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/345.wav",
        "text": "第十六條的內容大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/346.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識我們在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/347.wav",
        "text": "保留就送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/348.wav",
        "text": "這裡面我有一個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/349.wav",
        "text": "草稿我唸一下請各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/350.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部傾聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/351.wav",
        "text": "兩個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/352.wav",
        "text": "一第十六條我們保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/353.wav",
        "text": "本案院會進行處理之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/354.wav",
        "text": "由各黨團推派1位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/355.wav",
        "text": "依台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/356.wav",
        "text": "民主進步黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/357.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/358.wav",
        "text": "輪流發言每人發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/359.wav",
        "text": "為3分鐘發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/360.wav",
        "text": "完畢之後我們即依先後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/361.wav",
        "text": "進行各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/362.wav",
        "text": "版本之處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/363.wav",
        "text": "請問各黨團幹部對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/364.wav",
        "text": "這樣的兩個協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/365.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/366.wav",
        "text": "我先簽我們一個一個來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/367.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部在簽署的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/368.wav",
        "text": "我們現在來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/369.wav",
        "text": "第二案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/370.wav",
        "text": "研商有關考試院人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/371.wav",
        "text": "（台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/372.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/373.wav",
        "text": "）司法院人事同意權案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/374.wav",
        "text": "（民進黨黨團提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/375.wav",
        "text": "）現在請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/376.wav",
        "text": "提案的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/377.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/378.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/379.wav",
        "text": "所說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/380.wav",
        "text": "其實我是百分之一百零認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/381.wav",
        "text": "過去大家有不同的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/382.wav",
        "text": "自己回去開記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/383.wav",
        "text": "進行政治攻防就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/384.wav",
        "text": "沒必要在黨團協商這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/385.wav",
        "text": "長篇大論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/386.wav",
        "text": "考試院人事同意權我們展現了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/387.wav",
        "text": "我們的善意我們提的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/388.wav",
        "text": "從一開始在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/389.wav",
        "text": "院會提案進入協商冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/390.wav",
        "text": "交給台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/391.wav",
        "text": "召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/392.wav",
        "text": "我們也召集協商了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/393.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜本來要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/394.wav",
        "text": "院長調和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/395.wav",
        "text": "再協商一次希望整件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/396.wav",
        "text": "有一個比較完美的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/397.wav",
        "text": "結果這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/398.wav",
        "text": "我們也都同意了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/399.wav",
        "text": "考試院人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/400.wav",
        "text": "按照立法院職權行使法的通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/401.wav",
        "text": "因為新規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/402.wav",
        "text": "有新規定的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/403.wav",
        "text": "那個時程我們也去請教了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/404.wav",
        "text": "相關的議事同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/405.wav",
        "text": "把那個時程給排出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/406.wav",
        "text": "我們所訂的那個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/407.wav",
        "text": "要處理的因為延宕了一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/408.wav",
        "text": "要到這個禮拜五來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/409.wav",
        "text": "所以那個時程勢必"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/410.wav",
        "text": "再往後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/411.wav",
        "text": "順延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/412.wav",
        "text": "延如果今天院長在協商的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/413.wav",
        "text": "有具體的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/414.wav",
        "text": "要連司法院正副院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/415.wav",
        "text": "跟大法官都一併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/416.wav",
        "text": "把它放在時程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/417.wav",
        "text": "來加以處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/418.wav",
        "text": "只要在時程上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/419.wav",
        "text": "的安排各個黨團的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/420.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以配合的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/421.wav",
        "text": "我們並沒有什麼特別的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/422.wav",
        "text": "總而言之就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/423.wav",
        "text": "或許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/424.wav",
        "text": "現在就趕快積極的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/425.wav",
        "text": "加以進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/426.wav",
        "text": "比較符合我們國家制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/427.wav",
        "text": "運作的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/428.wav",
        "text": "也符合社會上面的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/429.wav",
        "text": "\n我只有一個小小的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/430.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在處理的其實只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/431.wav",
        "text": "司法院跟考試院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/432.wav",
        "text": "有一件事情是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/433.wav",
        "text": "它人事同意權的行使"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/434.wav",
        "text": "應該是在交通委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/435.wav",
        "text": "嘛問題是交通委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/436.wav",
        "text": "誰要負責排案呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/437.wav",
        "text": "還是大家都不排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/438.wav",
        "text": "就一直"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/439.wav",
        "text": "這樣下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/440.wav",
        "text": "因為這是院會的協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/441.wav",
        "text": "大概基本上處理院會的事務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/442.wav",
        "text": "大家也很關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/443.wav",
        "text": "NCC人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/444.wav",
        "text": "審查的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/445.wav",
        "text": "如果說現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/446.wav",
        "text": "我們在上個會期的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/447.wav",
        "text": "花了相當久的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/448.wav",
        "text": "利用院會的總質詢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/449.wav",
        "text": "去確認卓榮泰院長的爭議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/450.wav",
        "text": "因為在野黨當初的善意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/451.wav",
        "text": "本來是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/452.wav",
        "text": "問卓院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/453.wav",
        "text": "之前陳建仁內閣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/454.wav",
        "text": "所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/455.wav",
        "text": "要不要思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/456.wav",
        "text": "經過一段時間的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/457.wav",
        "text": "他願意幫這4個人背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/458.wav",
        "text": "但到現在為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/459.wav",
        "text": "我們的交通委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/460.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有排審過一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/461.wav",
        "text": "針對這個事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/462.wav",
        "text": "三大人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/463.wav",
        "text": "案社會上面都有期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/464.wav",
        "text": "要處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/465.wav",
        "text": "今天要不要順便就一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/466.wav",
        "text": "謝謝台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/467.wav",
        "text": "黃總召的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/468.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請民主進步黨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/469.wav",
        "text": "是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/470.wav",
        "text": "行使立法委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/471.wav",
        "text": "在憲法上的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/472.wav",
        "text": "這個事關重大"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/473.wav",
        "text": "而且也不可迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/474.wav",
        "text": "過去的種種就讓它過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/475.wav",
        "text": "我們今天全部來面對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/476.wav",
        "text": "大家應該就是照"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/477.wav",
        "text": "釋憲以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/478.wav",
        "text": "所謂同意權行使的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/479.wav",
        "text": "內容以及精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/480.wav",
        "text": "等等來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/481.wav",
        "text": "第一點我要談的就是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/482.wav",
        "text": "\n當然我們也期待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/483.wav",
        "text": "因為這個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/484.wav",
        "text": "最多能夠還有總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/485.wav",
        "text": "和國營事業預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/486.wav",
        "text": "還有一個追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/487.wav",
        "text": "所以院會的時間相當緊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/488.wav",
        "text": "而且相當寶貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/489.wav",
        "text": "另外我想大家也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/490.wav",
        "text": "各種重要法案要通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/491.wav",
        "text": "所以我們必須很有效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/492.wav",
        "text": "也很坦誠地來面對這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/493.wav",
        "text": "有關考試院人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/494.wav",
        "text": "我們有擬一個表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/495.wav",
        "text": "但我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/496.wav",
        "text": "那邊應該會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/497.wav",
        "text": "有一個說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/498.wav",
        "text": "我們再來對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/499.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係我們再來對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/500.wav",
        "text": "我講原則性問題就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/501.wav",
        "text": "可以同時並行都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/502.wav",
        "text": "\n另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/503.wav",
        "text": "剛才黃國昌委員講到一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/504.wav",
        "text": "也沒有錯N"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/505.wav",
        "text": "當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/506.wav",
        "text": "行政院再提名進來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/507.wav",
        "text": "只要進來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/508.wav",
        "text": "不管是國民黨或者是民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/509.wav",
        "text": "就排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/510.wav",
        "text": "反正這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/511.wav",
        "text": "同意權的行使就是面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/512.wav",
        "text": "嘛誰可以過誰不可以過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/513.wav",
        "text": "尊重大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/514.wav",
        "text": "的表意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/515.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我講的是原則問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/516.wav",
        "text": "而已"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/517.wav",
        "text": "是不是待會請周萬來秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/518.wav",
        "text": "時程表那就拿出來給大家參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/519.wav",
        "text": "有什麼問題我們再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/520.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/521.wav",
        "text": "要有效率地面對趕快來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/522.wav",
        "text": "就讓大家去面對好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/523.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/524.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下一輪黨團發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/525.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/526.wav",
        "text": "謝謝韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/527.wav",
        "text": "今天的召集跟協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/528.wav",
        "text": "剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/529.wav",
        "text": "民進黨所提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/530.wav",
        "text": "司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/531.wav",
        "text": "大法官人選的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/532.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權審查案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/533.wav",
        "text": "抑或是民眾黨所提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/534.wav",
        "text": "總統提名考試院相關人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/535.wav",
        "text": "國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/536.wav",
        "text": "在8月下旬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/537.wav",
        "text": "就準備好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/538.wav",
        "text": "當它送到立法院來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/539.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/540.wav",
        "text": "院內有召集開會的話我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/541.wav",
        "text": "會欣然同意地進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/542.wav",
        "text": "考試院被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/543.wav",
        "text": "被提名人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/544.wav",
        "text": "審查及人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/545.wav",
        "text": "投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/546.wav",
        "text": "\n對於司法院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/547.wav",
        "text": "總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/548.wav",
        "text": "最近這一個多月才提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/549.wav",
        "text": "的我們也很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/550.wav",
        "text": "樂意來進行相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/551.wav",
        "text": "國民黨從8月就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/552.wav",
        "text": "standby到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/553.wav",
        "text": "我們很願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/554.wav",
        "text": "總統提名的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/555.wav",
        "text": "來審查國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/556.wav",
        "text": "全力來配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/557.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/558.wav",
        "text": "我要特別提醒一個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/559.wav",
        "text": "畢竟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/560.wav",
        "text": "這是國家非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/561.wav",
        "text": "司法院的大法官也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/562.wav",
        "text": "過去在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/563.wav",
        "text": "2000年到2008年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/564.wav",
        "text": "前總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/565.wav",
        "text": "執政的時期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/566.wav",
        "text": "對於所有不管是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/567.wav",
        "text": "考試院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/568.wav",
        "text": "監察委員的提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/569.wav",
        "text": "都會跟在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/570.wav",
        "text": "大家一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/571.wav",
        "text": "共同推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/572.wav",
        "text": "適當的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/573.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠集思廣益一起提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/574.wav",
        "text": "當然由總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/575.wav",
        "text": "他所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/576.wav",
        "text": "最後提名的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/577.wav",
        "text": "這個流程要走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/578.wav",
        "text": "\n我們並沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/579.wav",
        "text": "我要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/580.wav",
        "text": "國家的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/581.wav",
        "text": "國家的名器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/582.wav",
        "text": "是為全國人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/583.wav",
        "text": "來服務來做事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/584.wav",
        "text": "並不是為哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/585.wav",
        "text": "政黨來做事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/586.wav",
        "text": "他的面應該是廣開各路的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/587.wav",
        "text": "朝野的各種意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/588.wav",
        "text": "把最好的人才推薦給總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/589.wav",
        "text": "我們比較遺憾的就是今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/590.wav",
        "text": "比較沒有聽過這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/591.wav",
        "text": "相關的這些徵詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/592.wav",
        "text": "抑或是討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/593.wav",
        "text": "我們況且不要說尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/594.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我要特別強調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/595.wav",
        "text": "過去即便是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/596.wav",
        "text": "陳水扁前總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/597.wav",
        "text": "或者是蔡英文前總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/598.wav",
        "text": "抑或是馬前總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/599.wav",
        "text": "提名這些大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/600.wav",
        "text": "或是司法院的正副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/601.wav",
        "text": "最基本都有拜會一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/602.wav",
        "text": "在野黨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/603.wav",
        "text": "這是行之多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/604.wav",
        "text": "當然我不願意猜測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/605.wav",
        "text": "是要故意矮化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/606.wav",
        "text": "還是矮化這些在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/607.wav",
        "text": "臺灣這個國家社會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/608.wav",
        "text": "一個最基本的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/609.wav",
        "text": "畢竟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/610.wav",
        "text": "各個政黨加起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/611.wav",
        "text": "是百分之百的民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/612.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/613.wav",
        "text": "這個最基本的尊重都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/614.wav",
        "text": "當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/615.wav",
        "text": "已經提名進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/616.wav",
        "text": "現在立法院要進行審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/617.wav",
        "text": "本席和國民黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/618.wav",
        "text": "是一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/619.wav",
        "text": "我們共同認為既"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/620.wav",
        "text": "既然已經提名進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/621.wav",
        "text": "而且民進黨柯總召已經提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/622.wav",
        "text": "今天朝野協商希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/623.wav",
        "text": "儘快來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/624.wav",
        "text": "來行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/625.wav",
        "text": "本席也欣表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/626.wav",
        "text": "我們也表示尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/627.wav",
        "text": "好不好待會柯總召要求的部分我們也會簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/628.wav",
        "text": "對於考試院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/629.wav",
        "text": "今天在朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/630.wav",
        "text": "已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/631.wav",
        "text": "白紙黑字列出這個議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/632.wav",
        "text": "我們敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/633.wav",
        "text": "陳前總統以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/634.wav",
        "text": "蔡英文總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/635.wav",
        "text": "有來跟立法院協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/636.wav",
        "text": "沒有這回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/637.wav",
        "text": "馬英九總統時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/638.wav",
        "text": "所提名的也沒有來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/639.wav",
        "text": "這個同意權行使要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/640.wav",
        "text": "即便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/641.wav",
        "text": "我們也是執政黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/642.wav",
        "text": "總統怎麼提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/643.wav",
        "text": "我們也無權干涉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/644.wav",
        "text": "等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/645.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點請傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/646.wav",
        "text": "要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/647.wav",
        "text": "並沒有所謂提名要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/648.wav",
        "text": "的說過去馬總統的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/649.wav",
        "text": "有跟我們協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/650.wav",
        "text": "都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/651.wav",
        "text": "在這裡我要補述一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/652.wav",
        "text": "當然拜會勢所必然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/653.wav",
        "text": "我們今天認可以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/654.wav",
        "text": "不知道何時行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/655.wav",
        "text": "上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/656.wav",
        "text": "大家對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/657.wav",
        "text": "有不同意見和看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/658.wav",
        "text": "但總是有塵埃落定的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/659.wav",
        "text": "我們要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/660.wav",
        "text": "所以很抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/661.wav",
        "text": "這沒有所謂協商的問題連我都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/662.wav",
        "text": "也無權過問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/663.wav",
        "text": "我要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/664.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/665.wav",
        "text": "在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/666.wav",
        "text": "已經是活化石活字典"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/667.wav",
        "text": "我們都很尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/668.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/669.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/670.wav",
        "text": "我們是希望朝野和諧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/671.wav",
        "text": "嘛你起碼要經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/672.wav",
        "text": "集思廣益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/673.wav",
        "text": "徵詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/674.wav",
        "text": "總統提名前一定要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/675.wav",
        "text": "在野黨協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/676.wav",
        "text": "對不對我主要的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/677.wav",
        "text": "就是徵詢大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/678.wav",
        "text": "這是朝野和諧的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/679.wav",
        "text": "一個基本邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/680.wav",
        "text": "當然柯總召要很強力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/681.wav",
        "text": "我們也沒有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/682.wav",
        "text": "總統不能這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/683.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/684.wav",
        "text": "但這是一個基本邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/685.wav",
        "text": "我想柯總召在立法院三十多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/686.wav",
        "text": "朝野本來就要和諧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/687.wav",
        "text": "很多事情的進行就比較順利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/688.wav",
        "text": "當然你可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/689.wav",
        "text": "一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/690.wav",
        "text": "這是總統職權可以乾坤獨斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/691.wav",
        "text": "我們也尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/692.wav",
        "text": "所以我們剛剛也講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/693.wav",
        "text": "說實在的本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/694.wav",
        "text": "對這些日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/695.wav",
        "text": "我沒有這樣要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/696.wav",
        "text": "就配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/697.wav",
        "text": "嘛這已經很極度尊重了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/698.wav",
        "text": "強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/699.wav",
        "text": "大家凡事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/700.wav",
        "text": "多商量總是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/701.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/702.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/703.wav",
        "text": "你還要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/704.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/705.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/706.wav",
        "text": "二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/707.wav",
        "text": "好像有個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/708.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛傅總召說那個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/709.wav",
        "text": "他都同意我聽了嚇一跳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/710.wav",
        "text": "因為我剛剛沒有看到那個時程所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/711.wav",
        "text": "我們正在研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/712.wav",
        "text": "他們所草擬的那個時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/713.wav",
        "text": "有關於時程部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/714.wav",
        "text": "很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/715.wav",
        "text": "可以調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/716.wav",
        "text": "都是照正常程序排下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/717.wav",
        "text": "傅總召剛才所說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/718.wav",
        "text": "可能你都忘記了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/719.wav",
        "text": "權一定有審薦小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/720.wav",
        "text": "都有發函給各政黨推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/721.wav",
        "text": "然後審薦小組審完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/722.wav",
        "text": "再送進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/723.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/724.wav",
        "text": "國家行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/725.wav",
        "text": "尊重並沒有所謂協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/726.wav",
        "text": "那個連我們都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/727.wav",
        "text": "無由窺視打聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/728.wav",
        "text": "都澈底尊重總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/729.wav",
        "text": "議事處高處長宣讀一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/730.wav",
        "text": "這個非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/731.wav",
        "text": "我們先就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/732.wav",
        "text": "考試院的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/733.wav",
        "text": "邊看邊講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/734.wav",
        "text": "1分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/735.wav",
        "text": "我們先把考試院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/736.wav",
        "text": "抱歉我在這裡再表達一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/737.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/738.wav",
        "text": "的這些工作同仁非常的認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/739.wav",
        "text": "所以本席有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/740.wav",
        "text": "時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/741.wav",
        "text": "我不是在不知道時程表的情況之下同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/742.wav",
        "text": "因為我們黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/743.wav",
        "text": "所以本席看了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/744.wav",
        "text": "即便這個時程表要更動我們都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/745.wav",
        "text": "就行使我們的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/746.wav",
        "text": "召請大家看一下考試院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/747.wav",
        "text": "部分我們預估的時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/748.wav",
        "text": "請高處長宣讀給大家聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/749.wav",
        "text": "院長我們也有提一張時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/750.wav",
        "text": "大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/751.wav",
        "text": "應該是可以對得起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/752.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨鞭報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/753.wav",
        "text": "同意權行使的相關規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/754.wav",
        "text": "經過大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/755.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭第9號判決之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/756.wav",
        "text": "大部分都是合憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/757.wav",
        "text": "但是它跟過去同意權行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/758.wav",
        "text": "有幾個比較大的不同點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/759.wav",
        "text": "就是將來同意權行使的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/760.wav",
        "text": "不管是依照憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/761.wav",
        "text": "所提名的這些憲政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/762.wav",
        "text": "的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/763.wav",
        "text": "或者是依照法律由行政院提起的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/764.wav",
        "text": "這些獨立機關的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/765.wav",
        "text": "都有一些時間上的限制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/766.wav",
        "text": "一定要超過一個月"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/767.wav",
        "text": "不能少於一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/768.wav",
        "text": "另外公聽會是一定要開"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/769.wav",
        "text": "各黨團如果要詢問被提名人相關問題的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/770.wav",
        "text": "函送給提名機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/771.wav",
        "text": "然後他才能夠回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/772.wav",
        "text": "另外在審查的時候一定要分開審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/773.wav",
        "text": "分開審查之後進入到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/774.wav",
        "text": "院會去進行投票表決的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/775.wav",
        "text": "一定要記名投票表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/776.wav",
        "text": "這些就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/777.wav",
        "text": "一些比較大的方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/778.wav",
        "text": "\n因此我們在設計時程的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/779.wav",
        "text": "星期五民眾黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/780.wav",
        "text": "已經超過一個月冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/781.wav",
        "text": "已經列到星期五的討論事項了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/782.wav",
        "text": "我們今天是協商考委的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/783.wav",
        "text": "跟大法官的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/784.wav",
        "text": "等一下我有發一個時程是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/785.wav",
        "text": "是根據民眾黨所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/786.wav",
        "text": "這些結構的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/787.wav",
        "text": "民進黨剛剛有提一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/788.wav",
        "text": "有關於時程的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/789.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以印一下給大家參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/790.wav",
        "text": "先看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/791.wav",
        "text": "再來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/792.wav",
        "text": "對我們要發下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/793.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/794.wav",
        "text": "最主要是我們將來在進行審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/795.wav",
        "text": "原則上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/796.wav",
        "text": "應開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/797.wav",
        "text": "至於審查會的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/798.wav",
        "text": "因為他現在是交通委員會主審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/799.wav",
        "text": "將來還會有一個公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/800.wav",
        "text": "的委員送來後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/801.wav",
        "text": "後是經濟委員會主審"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/802.wav",
        "text": "彼此之間根據輪值召委的權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/803.wav",
        "text": "限去參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/804.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法的法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/805.wav",
        "text": "應開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/806.wav",
        "text": "應開審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/807.wav",
        "text": "然後時間要注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/808.wav",
        "text": "但是我們今天處理的是屬於憲法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/809.wav",
        "text": "我們院會要注意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/810.wav",
        "text": "\n我們等一下是先處理考委的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/811.wav",
        "text": "如果有協商共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/812.wav",
        "text": "我們就先簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/813.wav",
        "text": "然後接下來繼續處理大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/814.wav",
        "text": "因為院會的時間就如同剛剛柯總召講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/815.wav",
        "text": "的時間是有限的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/816.wav",
        "text": "要經過一個禮拜以上的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/817.wav",
        "text": "我們要逐案去排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/818.wav",
        "text": "這中間還要穿插一些預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/819.wav",
        "text": "然後三天審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/820.wav",
        "text": "來進行院會的記名表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/821.wav",
        "text": "我們有一個時程表給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/822.wav",
        "text": "另外民進黨的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/823.wav",
        "text": "我們現在也發給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/824.wav",
        "text": "大家先看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/825.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下再來看共識如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/826.wav",
        "text": "麻煩各黨團幹部稍微看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/827.wav",
        "text": "包括剛才遞出來的民進黨的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/828.wav",
        "text": "也請大家一併參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/829.wav",
        "text": "我們稍等一下再開始進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/830.wav",
        "text": "我們休息10分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/831.wav",
        "text": "請大家就座好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/832.wav",
        "text": "請就座我們會議現在開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/833.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/834.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/835.wav",
        "text": "各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/836.wav",
        "text": "民主進步黨所提的時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/837.wav",
        "text": "和秘書處所提的時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/838.wav",
        "text": "持平而論差一點在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/839.wav",
        "text": "是我們全部是用院會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/840.wav",
        "text": "因為我們知道現在審查中央政府總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/841.wav",
        "text": "的時候很多要用來審預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/842.wav",
        "text": "所以全部是用院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/843.wav",
        "text": "即便這樣排的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/844.wav",
        "text": "只有同意權行使還是同一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/845.wav",
        "text": "只是我們全部用院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/846.wav",
        "text": "不用委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/847.wav",
        "text": "我比較傾向是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/848.wav",
        "text": "大家全部用院會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/849.wav",
        "text": "也可以採取全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/850.wav",
        "text": "才不會占用審預算的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/851.wav",
        "text": "結果都是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/852.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/853.wav",
        "text": "好請繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/854.wav",
        "text": "第二點就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/855.wav",
        "text": "當然有很多細節必須談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/856.wav",
        "text": "各黨進行同意權行使的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/857.wav",
        "text": "要出一些考題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/858.wav",
        "text": "詢問的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/859.wav",
        "text": "當然這是院會交下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/860.wav",
        "text": "院會交下來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/861.wav",
        "text": "用什麼比例交下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/862.wav",
        "text": "這是我們現在要確定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/863.wav",
        "text": "否則的話無由產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/864.wav",
        "text": "當然院會交下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/865.wav",
        "text": "一定會依政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/866.wav",
        "text": "問的都是通案性問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/867.wav",
        "text": "至於個別委員的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/868.wav",
        "text": "就在審查會去問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/869.wav",
        "text": "\n至於什麼時候要提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/870.wav",
        "text": "明天就開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/871.wav",
        "text": "3天內就提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/872.wav",
        "text": "15號就提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/873.wav",
        "text": "然後就可以交下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/874.wav",
        "text": "因為那個都有時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/875.wav",
        "text": "要給他們回答都有時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/876.wav",
        "text": "如何用最精準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/877.wav",
        "text": "最確實的方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/878.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/879.wav",
        "text": "\n至於現在排出來的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/880.wav",
        "text": "院長是221"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/881.wav",
        "text": "一個人30分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/882.wav",
        "text": "委員是111"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/883.wav",
        "text": "一個人15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/884.wav",
        "text": "這邊我們比較傾向20分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/885.wav",
        "text": "這當然是可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/886.wav",
        "text": "我們還好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/887.wav",
        "text": "\n以上就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/888.wav",
        "text": "一個基本性的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/889.wav",
        "text": "請各位能夠指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/890.wav",
        "text": "現在大概我們審查考試院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/891.wav",
        "text": "或者司法院的提名人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/892.wav",
        "text": "我要謝謝立法院院方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/893.wav",
        "text": "有提供一個時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/894.wav",
        "text": "民進黨也有提供一個時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/895.wav",
        "text": "我們每個禮拜一三四的委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/896.wav",
        "text": "力行委員會中心主義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/897.wav",
        "text": "尤其現在在審查總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/898.wav",
        "text": "大家投入總預算審查的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/899.wav",
        "text": "可能會稍微多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/900.wav",
        "text": "固然全院聯席會來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/901.wav",
        "text": "司法院人選的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/902.wav",
        "text": "委員會一樣可以開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/903.wav",
        "text": "就是由院會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/904.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在實際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/905.wav",
        "text": "院會多半是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/906.wav",
        "text": "報告事項討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/907.wav",
        "text": "現在要二三讀的法案也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/908.wav",
        "text": "總預算二三讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/909.wav",
        "text": "現在幾乎是不可能的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/910.wav",
        "text": "大概到12月中下旬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/911.wav",
        "text": "都還是二五的院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/912.wav",
        "text": "還可以做更多的利用跟討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/913.wav",
        "text": "\n本席在這裡也要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/914.wav",
        "text": "113年度中央政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/915.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/916.wav",
        "text": "因為也牽扯到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/917.wav",
        "text": "我們如果要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/918.wav",
        "text": "行政院卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/919.wav",
        "text": "來做專案報告的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/920.wav",
        "text": "也會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/921.wav",
        "text": "我們院會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/922.wav",
        "text": "可能也會影響到一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/923.wav",
        "text": "起碼一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/924.wav",
        "text": "所以我提醒一下議事處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/925.wav",
        "text": "今天整體的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/926.wav",
        "text": "我們授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/927.wav",
        "text": "立法院議事處來排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/928.wav",
        "text": "就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/929.wav",
        "text": "因為我們後面還有一些提案要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/930.wav",
        "text": "後來還有一些議案要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/931.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/932.wav",
        "text": "先同意怎麼做就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/933.wav",
        "text": "但時間不要訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/934.wav",
        "text": "就授權議事處來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/935.wav",
        "text": "但本席要提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/936.wav",
        "text": "司法院院長及副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/937.wav",
        "text": "的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/938.wav",
        "text": "我們是用一天的院會來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/939.wav",
        "text": "但是大法官的被提名人有5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/940.wav",
        "text": "時間是不是太過急迫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/941.wav",
        "text": "因為有5位被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/942.wav",
        "text": "是不是用兩天會更適當一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/943.wav",
        "text": "推派質詢的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/944.wav",
        "text": "221本席覺得實在太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/945.wav",
        "text": "時間可以儘量多善用一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/946.wav",
        "text": "時間是不是能夠儘量放寬一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/947.wav",
        "text": "是331的話會更適當一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/948.wav",
        "text": "的前半段是跟柯總召完全一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/949.wav",
        "text": "的就是用二五的院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/950.wav",
        "text": "時間我想這一點應該是沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/951.wav",
        "text": "另外就是5個大法官的時間分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/952.wav",
        "text": "以及發言詢問時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/953.wav",
        "text": "大概這一點有一點差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/954.wav",
        "text": "\n我們接下來請黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/955.wav",
        "text": "發言吳思瑤幹事長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/956.wav",
        "text": "剛剛傅崐萁總召所提的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/957.wav",
        "text": "我們都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/958.wav",
        "text": "就往傅崐萁總召提的那個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/959.wav",
        "text": "來規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/960.wav",
        "text": "我們基本上都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/961.wav",
        "text": "我只有一件事情要提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/962.wav",
        "text": "我們上次修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/963.wav",
        "text": "的立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/964.wav",
        "text": "規定被提名人有數人的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/965.wav",
        "text": "說明和答詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/966.wav",
        "text": "要分別為之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/967.wav",
        "text": "因此在排時間的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/968.wav",
        "text": "現在的這個表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/969.wav",
        "text": "看起來還有一點rough"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/970.wav",
        "text": "因為要一個一個進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/971.wav",
        "text": "以前好像是大鍋炒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/972.wav",
        "text": "全部都找來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/973.wav",
        "text": "現在要一個一個進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/974.wav",
        "text": "表示慎重的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/975.wav",
        "text": "每一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/976.wav",
        "text": "說明幾分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/977.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團有多少個代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/978.wav",
        "text": "每一個黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/979.wav",
        "text": "可以問幾分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/980.wav",
        "text": "把時間再寫得細一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/981.wav",
        "text": "我先隨便提一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/982.wav",
        "text": "人譬如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/983.wav",
        "text": "邱文彥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/984.wav",
        "text": "這個是考試院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/985.wav",
        "text": "這個是司法院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/986.wav",
        "text": "就這一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/987.wav",
        "text": "我們表定的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/988.wav",
        "text": "只剩下50分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/989.wav",
        "text": "50分鐘3個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/990.wav",
        "text": "各幾個人時間怎麼分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/991.wav",
        "text": "因為現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/992.wav",
        "text": "我看到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/993.wav",
        "text": "一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/994.wav",
        "text": "要排這麼多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/995.wav",
        "text": "每一個人的順序跟時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/996.wav",
        "text": "可能再抓得更細一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/997.wav",
        "text": "大家心裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/998.wav",
        "text": "大概時間上會比較有底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/999.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1000.wav",
        "text": "人數上面的比例分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1001.wav",
        "text": "或者是剛剛傅總召說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1002.wav",
        "text": "對大黨的尊重要331"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1003.wav",
        "text": "我們都沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1004.wav",
        "text": "每一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1005.wav",
        "text": "可以分配到的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1006.wav",
        "text": "1或怎麼分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1007.wav",
        "text": "那個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1008.wav",
        "text": "現在是抓20分鐘嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1009.wav",
        "text": "那夠了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1010.wav",
        "text": "夠了可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1011.wav",
        "text": "這個時程排得比較細緻的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1012.wav",
        "text": "大家時間會抓得比較準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1013.wav",
        "text": "到底要用院會還是用委員會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1014.wav",
        "text": "或許大家可以再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1015.wav",
        "text": "集思廣益一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1016.wav",
        "text": "我們有沒有那麼多院會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1017.wav",
        "text": "因為這個在本質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1018.wav",
        "text": "算是全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1019.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會在開會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1020.wav",
        "text": "並沒有限制一定要禮拜二或禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1021.wav",
        "text": "我們以現實的角度上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1022.wav",
        "text": "來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1023.wav",
        "text": "在進行人事同意權詢答的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1024.wav",
        "text": "問問題的那個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1025.wav",
        "text": "其他的委員大概都是透過隨選視訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1026.wav",
        "text": "或者是院裡面的電視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1027.wav",
        "text": "在關心整個詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1028.wav",
        "text": "的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1029.wav",
        "text": "所以到底是要在二五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1030.wav",
        "text": "還是在委員會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1031.wav",
        "text": "因為本質上它是全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1032.wav",
        "text": "沒有一定要在二五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1033.wav",
        "text": "開會看實際上院會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1034.wav",
        "text": "夠用還是不夠用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1035.wav",
        "text": "信任院長跟秘書長的智慧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1036.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼樣來調配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1037.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1038.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1039.wav",
        "text": "跟民進黨團的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1040.wav",
        "text": "就是二跟五為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1041.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在調配私底下討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1042.wav",
        "text": "大概沒有什麼太大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1043.wav",
        "text": "原則上是二跟五的院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1044.wav",
        "text": "特別跟黃國昌總召報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1045.wav",
        "text": "至於發言的時間剛剛柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1046.wav",
        "text": "傅總召講的是221稍微少了一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1047.wav",
        "text": "看能不能331"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1048.wav",
        "text": "1如果大家同意我們就331"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1049.wav",
        "text": "發言時間20分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1050.wav",
        "text": "大致上我先這樣跟大家講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1051.wav",
        "text": "我們就往這個方向好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1052.wav",
        "text": "行使人事同意權的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1053.wav",
        "text": "跟國民黨團的意見一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1054.wav",
        "text": "我們希望保留委員會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1055.wav",
        "text": "趕快來審預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1056.wav",
        "text": "所以用二五的時間來訂的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1057.wav",
        "text": "大家也可以參照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1058.wav",
        "text": "真的跟秘書處的時間是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1059.wav",
        "text": "最終同意權投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1060.wav",
        "text": "都是12月13號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1061.wav",
        "text": "這是考試院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1062.wav",
        "text": "有提示到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1063.wav",
        "text": "如果二五拿來排考試院的時間台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1064.wav",
        "text": "台電追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1065.wav",
        "text": "預算落在哪一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1066.wav",
        "text": "也算過時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1067.wav",
        "text": "如果大家同意台電追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1068.wav",
        "text": "的質詢備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1069.wav",
        "text": "下週二）是可以進行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1070.wav",
        "text": "雖然今天程序委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1071.wav",
        "text": "已經排了五二一次會的議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1072.wav",
        "text": "但是這個可以透過朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1073.wav",
        "text": "協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1074.wav",
        "text": "程序委員會排的案子大概禮拜五都可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1075.wav",
        "text": "禮拜二其實是空出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1076.wav",
        "text": "所以11月19號（禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1077.wav",
        "text": "）就來進行台電追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1078.wav",
        "text": "預算的詢答報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1079.wav",
        "text": "其實這樣就OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1080.wav",
        "text": "也不會影響到剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1081.wav",
        "text": "傅總召跟民進黨團的看法一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1082.wav",
        "text": "即考試院的行使期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1083.wav",
        "text": "這是第二件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1084.wav",
        "text": "\n第三件事情有關於司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1085.wav",
        "text": "大法官的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1086.wav",
        "text": "大家也可以參照民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1087.wav",
        "text": "所列的時程也都是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1088.wav",
        "text": "院會時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1089.wav",
        "text": "剛剛傅崐萁總召還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1090.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召不好意思我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1091.wav",
        "text": "大法官有5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1092.wav",
        "text": "被提名人扣除院長副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1093.wav",
        "text": "可能用一天的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1094.wav",
        "text": "詢答會比較少一點審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1095.wav",
        "text": "會少一點從民進黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1096.wav",
        "text": "12月10號（禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1097.wav",
        "text": "）以及12月17號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1098.wav",
        "text": "都可以來作為大法官被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1099.wav",
        "text": "的時程這樣就完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1100.wav",
        "text": "兜起來了所以來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1101.wav",
        "text": "大家一起來決定好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1102.wav",
        "text": "另外一件事情也還是要請示一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1103.wav",
        "text": "院長要一起處理的剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1104.wav",
        "text": "柯總召有提每一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1105.wav",
        "text": "黨團是不是共同匯聚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1106.wav",
        "text": "一個時間譬如說今天協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1107.wav",
        "text": "出來禮拜五之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1108.wav",
        "text": "就各黨團要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1109.wav",
        "text": "發問給考試院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1110.wav",
        "text": "各黨講好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1111.wav",
        "text": "共同可以問幾題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1112.wav",
        "text": "讓這些被提名人可以準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1113.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點也請求院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1114.wav",
        "text": "要裁示謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1115.wav",
        "text": "說明一下黃國昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1116.wav",
        "text": "委員您稍待一下我們先把這個說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1117.wav",
        "text": "針對同意權的行使方才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1118.wav",
        "text": "院長綜整了大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1119.wav",
        "text": "的看法原則上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1120.wav",
        "text": "我們會利用院會日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1121.wav",
        "text": "的時程不過這邊要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1122.wav",
        "text": "各位黨鞭報告一下因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1123.wav",
        "text": "院會事實上在禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1124.wav",
        "text": "我們都要處理報告事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1125.wav",
        "text": "如果說我們現在就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1126.wav",
        "text": "把所有的院會都停開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1127.wav",
        "text": "改開全院委員會的話事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1128.wav",
        "text": "報告事項會沒辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1129.wav",
        "text": "我會這樣建議就是五二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1130.wav",
        "text": "一次院會對不對那是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1131.wav",
        "text": "等一下留個20分鐘我們來弄一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1132.wav",
        "text": "星期五的半天原則上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1133.wav",
        "text": "院會還是會去處理所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1134.wav",
        "text": "報告事項星期五的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1135.wav",
        "text": "下半天跟星期二我們就來開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1136.wav",
        "text": "相關的東西我們先列個表出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1137.wav",
        "text": "我們現在還有附屬單位預算可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1138.wav",
        "text": "要協調然後委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1139.wav",
        "text": "利用一三四在弄總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1140.wav",
        "text": "這樣來弄完密集協商事實上有可能會遇到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1141.wav",
        "text": "院會日了我們現在就是原則上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1142.wav",
        "text": "把考委的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1143.wav",
        "text": "同意權利用五二然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1144.wav",
        "text": "大法官也利用五二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1145.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有講33120分鐘我們來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1146.wav",
        "text": "20分鐘之後我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1147.wav",
        "text": "考委的部分大法官部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1148.wav",
        "text": "的協商結論草稿給大家看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1149.wav",
        "text": "至於追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1150.wav",
        "text": "看大家溝通怎麼樣我再塞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1151.wav",
        "text": "到裡面去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1152.wav",
        "text": "現在就是先給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1153.wav",
        "text": "20分鐘的時間我們來擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1154.wav",
        "text": "考委跟大法官的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1155.wav",
        "text": "追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1156.wav",
        "text": "好請黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1157.wav",
        "text": "我只想確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1158.wav",
        "text": "院會的時間二五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1159.wav",
        "text": "每一次院會禮拜五到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1160.wav",
        "text": "討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1161.wav",
        "text": "可不可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1162.wav",
        "text": "不是我講的討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1163.wav",
        "text": "能不能處理指的是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1164.wav",
        "text": "如果有一個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1165.wav",
        "text": "過了協商冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1166.wav",
        "text": "我要把它排上院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1167.wav",
        "text": "不會因為那天有排人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1168.wav",
        "text": "就卡住嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1169.wav",
        "text": "最主要的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1170.wav",
        "text": "就是你把二五的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1171.wav",
        "text": "全部都卡住了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1172.wav",
        "text": "那法案是不是都不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1173.wav",
        "text": "處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1174.wav",
        "text": "如果大家有共識決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1175.wav",
        "text": "要把院會日停開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1176.wav",
        "text": "去處理全院委員會審查的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1177.wav",
        "text": "所以你院會停開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1178.wav",
        "text": "如果說每個禮拜五早上是不停開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1179.wav",
        "text": "不停開的話照原訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1180.wav",
        "text": "議程就處理報告事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1181.wav",
        "text": "但是你的討論事項能處理的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1182.wav",
        "text": "就變得很有限了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1183.wav",
        "text": "因為通常到了12點下午2點半就改開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1184.wav",
        "text": "是這我理解如果規則是這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1185.wav",
        "text": "我們對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1186.wav",
        "text": "所有都把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1187.wav",
        "text": "放在二五這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1188.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1189.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法同意的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1190.wav",
        "text": "具體全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1191.wav",
        "text": "在審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1192.wav",
        "text": "被提名人要上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1193.wav",
        "text": "回答問題嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1194.wav",
        "text": "事實上各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1195.wav",
        "text": "派上去詢問問題的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1196.wav",
        "text": "它的順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1197.wav",
        "text": "早就出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1198.wav",
        "text": "會很類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1199.wav",
        "text": "我們在院會裡面進行總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1200.wav",
        "text": "那樣子的一個時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1201.wav",
        "text": "所以對於各個委員會的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1202.wav",
        "text": "事實上干擾是低的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1203.wav",
        "text": "譬如說輪到我上去問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1204.wav",
        "text": "20分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1205.wav",
        "text": "那我就上去問20鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1206.wav",
        "text": "除了那20分鐘以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1207.wav",
        "text": "其他的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1208.wav",
        "text": "我還是可以去委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1209.wav",
        "text": "履行我的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1210.wav",
        "text": "但是你如果把二五的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1211.wav",
        "text": "卡這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1212.wav",
        "text": "全部都在處理這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1213.wav",
        "text": "讓法案完全沒有辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1214.wav",
        "text": "對於這樣子的處理方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1215.wav",
        "text": "我們是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1216.wav",
        "text": "所保留的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1217.wav",
        "text": "你現在的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1218.wav",
        "text": "請柯建銘總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1219.wav",
        "text": "聽不懂你認為不要五二是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1220.wav",
        "text": "不要全部都五二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1221.wav",
        "text": "啦因為這樣你法案沒辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1222.wav",
        "text": "你聽我講開院會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1223.wav",
        "text": "就沒有委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1224.wav",
        "text": "不管任何時間都是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1225.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1226.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1227.wav",
        "text": "本來這個就是遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1228.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有你所謂的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1229.wav",
        "text": "請周秘書長跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1230.wav",
        "text": "就不能列進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1231.wav",
        "text": "啦院會跟全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1232.wav",
        "text": "啦所以剛才黃委員所說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1233.wav",
        "text": "的討論事項就是不能處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1234.wav",
        "text": "所以這個大家要理解一定是這樣的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1235.wav",
        "text": "所以要怎麼去排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1236.wav",
        "text": "有一個我現在是請我們議事處去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1237.wav",
        "text": "再考慮看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1238.wav",
        "text": "考試院的這個處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1239.wav",
        "text": "因為現在院會法案少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1240.wav",
        "text": "這一個是不是用五二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1241.wav",
        "text": "司法院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1242.wav",
        "text": "是不是用全院委員會再來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1243.wav",
        "text": "是不是用這樣折衷會比較好一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1244.wav",
        "text": "因為那時候有法案了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1245.wav",
        "text": "都是由院會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1246.wav",
        "text": "因為委員會審查總預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1247.wav",
        "text": "算也差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1248.wav",
        "text": "所以司法院這部分可以用全院委員會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1249.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1250.wav",
        "text": "就不會影響到黃委員所質疑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1251.wav",
        "text": "可能這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1252.wav",
        "text": "所以這個用院會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1253.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也是坐在這邊跟高處長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1254.wav",
        "text": "連司法院都是在院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1255.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話可能就不會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1256.wav",
        "text": "黃委員所考量的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1257.wav",
        "text": "因為現在還有追加預算要加進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1258.wav",
        "text": "院會秘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1259.wav",
        "text": "既然都是全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1260.wav",
        "text": "就沒有所謂那個是院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1261.wav",
        "text": "這個是全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1262.wav",
        "text": "我們可以排一天來處理法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1263.wav",
        "text": "這個結束13號以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1264.wav",
        "text": "我們可以馬上排嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1265.wav",
        "text": "留一天來處理就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1266.wav",
        "text": "因為時間到了也不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1267.wav",
        "text": "加開院會一天就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1268.wav",
        "text": "柯總召所提的是另外一個思考點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1269.wav",
        "text": "我們再專門找一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1270.wav",
        "text": "加開院會來專門審理法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1271.wav",
        "text": "13號以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1272.wav",
        "text": "這是另外一個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1273.wav",
        "text": "那個影響度不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1274.wav",
        "text": "我想不管怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1275.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊需要15分鐘左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1276.wav",
        "text": "我們來擬定一個時程協調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1277.wav",
        "text": "你們正好私底下來協調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1278.wav",
        "text": "另外我突然想到一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1279.wav",
        "text": "我先把草稿擬出來之後大家再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1280.wav",
        "text": "對特別拜託各黨團幹部一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1281.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1282.wav",
        "text": "拜託大家黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1283.wav",
        "text": "推派一些委員在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1284.wav",
        "text": "不要讓現場都沒有委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1285.wav",
        "text": "這一點要拜託大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1286.wav",
        "text": "因為上一次審查只剩下王正旭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1287.wav",
        "text": "我還特別去拜託王正旭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1288.wav",
        "text": "你千萬不能走我們審查法律案一個委員都不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1289.wav",
        "text": "所以各黨團幹部這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1290.wav",
        "text": "不然這個畫面出去很難交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1291.wav",
        "text": "拜託大家好不好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1292.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部大家請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1293.wav",
        "text": "剛才發到各位手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1294.wav",
        "text": "是我們預擬的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1295.wav",
        "text": "12日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1296.wav",
        "text": "我們現在花20分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1297.wav",
        "text": "只有考委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1298.wav",
        "text": "然後還有一個追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1299.wav",
        "text": "我們協商的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1300.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團針對總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1301.wav",
        "text": "咨請本院行使考試院第十四屆院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1302.wav",
        "text": "副院長及考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1303.wav",
        "text": "被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1304.wav",
        "text": "是否有當請公決案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1305.wav",
        "text": "一11月22日（星期五）下午改開全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1306.wav",
        "text": "舉行考試院人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1307.wav",
        "text": "同意權案公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1308.wav",
        "text": "由各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1309.wav",
        "text": "推薦學者專家代表7位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1310.wav",
        "text": "參加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1311.wav",
        "text": "依政黨比例由國民黨黨團推薦3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1312.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1313.wav",
        "text": "推薦3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1314.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團推派1人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1315.wav",
        "text": "各黨團審查小組委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1316.wav",
        "text": "亦依上述比例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1317.wav",
        "text": "推派委員組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1318.wav",
        "text": "名單請於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1319.wav",
        "text": "11月15日（星期五）中午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1320.wav",
        "text": "12時前送議事處彙整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1321.wav",
        "text": "逾時視同放棄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1322.wav",
        "text": "11月26日（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1323.wav",
        "text": "12月3日（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1324.wav",
        "text": "）下午改開全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1325.wav",
        "text": "並合併為一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1326.wav",
        "text": "11月26日（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1327.wav",
        "text": "）上午審查考試院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1328.wav",
        "text": "被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1329.wav",
        "text": "下午審查考試院副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1330.wav",
        "text": "被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1331.wav",
        "text": "11月29日（星期五）下午"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1332.wav",
        "text": "12月3日（星期二"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1333.wav",
        "text": "審查考試委員被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1334.wav",
        "text": "每位被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1335.wav",
        "text": "各由7位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1336.wav",
        "text": "進行詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1337.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團推派3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1338.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團推派1位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1339.wav",
        "text": "代表進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1340.wav",
        "text": "名單請於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1341.wav",
        "text": "11月25日（星期一）中午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1342.wav",
        "text": "12時前送議事處彙整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1343.wav",
        "text": "逾時視同放棄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1344.wav",
        "text": "詢答順序依例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1345.wav",
        "text": "授權議事處辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1346.wav",
        "text": "審查完畢後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1347.wav",
        "text": "於12月17日（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1348.wav",
        "text": "）院會上午行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1349.wav",
        "text": "同意權案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1350.wav",
        "text": "記名投票表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1351.wav",
        "text": "上開行使同意權案投票時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1352.wav",
        "text": "考試院院長副院長及"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1353.wav",
        "text": "7位考試委員被提名人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1354.wav",
        "text": "併為一張同意權票"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1355.wav",
        "text": "四"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1356.wav",
        "text": "有關行使考試院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1357.wav",
        "text": "副院長及7位考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1358.wav",
        "text": "被提名人同意權案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1359.wav",
        "text": "相關事務及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1360.wav",
        "text": "時程詳如附表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1361.wav",
        "text": "五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1362.wav",
        "text": "各黨團如有關考試院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1363.wav",
        "text": "副院長及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1364.wav",
        "text": "考試委員被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1365.wav",
        "text": "之書面問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1366.wav",
        "text": "請於11月15日（星期五"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1367.wav",
        "text": "）中午12點前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1368.wav",
        "text": "11月15日星期五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1369.wav",
        "text": "中午12點前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1370.wav",
        "text": "是不是331還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1371.wav",
        "text": "題目數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1372.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1373.wav",
        "text": "國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1374.wav",
        "text": "黨團有沒有寶貴意見請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1375.wav",
        "text": "跟柯總召說明因為這是法條明定的就是有關於彙整部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1376.wav",
        "text": "是只有限於各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1377.wav",
        "text": "這邊的話是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1378.wav",
        "text": "未參加黨團這一屆大家都參加黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1379.wav",
        "text": "沒有個人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1380.wav",
        "text": "對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1381.wav",
        "text": "因為我們這個解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1382.wav",
        "text": "的問題我們一口氣討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1383.wav",
        "text": "\n請國民黨黨團王鴻薇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1384.wav",
        "text": "首席副書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1385.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1386.wav",
        "text": "現在有黨團以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1387.wav",
        "text": "沒有參加黨團的委員可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1388.wav",
        "text": "書面來要求答復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1389.wav",
        "text": "相關的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1390.wav",
        "text": "我想這都完全符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1391.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1392.wav",
        "text": "也完全沒有違憲的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1393.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得還是應該尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1394.wav",
        "text": "各黨團的自主性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1395.wav",
        "text": "我們不是小學生嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1396.wav",
        "text": "要求各黨團只能提幾題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1397.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1398.wav",
        "text": "並不需要在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1399.wav",
        "text": "作成任何的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1400.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話可能對各黨團來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1401.wav",
        "text": "我覺得都不夠尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1402.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1403.wav",
        "text": "有沒有寶貴意見請表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1404.wav",
        "text": "這個條文一開始的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1405.wav",
        "text": "即使是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1406.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1407.wav",
        "text": "做了暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1408.wav",
        "text": "也沒有凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1409.wav",
        "text": "法律公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1410.wav",
        "text": "生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1411.wav",
        "text": "沒有凍結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1412.wav",
        "text": "最後大法官也沒有對這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1413.wav",
        "text": "特別再說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1414.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1415.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1416.wav",
        "text": "我們針對問卷的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1417.wav",
        "text": "所做已經發出去的問卷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1418.wav",
        "text": "我們早就發出去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1419.wav",
        "text": "完全是按照立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1420.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法在做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1421.wav",
        "text": "被提名人他們回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1422.wav",
        "text": "不回答反正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1423.wav",
        "text": "也沒有法律效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1424.wav",
        "text": "嘛今天我們即使在這邊作成任何決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1425.wav",
        "text": "打開天窗說亮話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1426.wav",
        "text": "那些被提名人不回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1427.wav",
        "text": "也不能怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1428.wav",
        "text": "嘛就是最後在投票的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1429.wav",
        "text": "每一個立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1430.wav",
        "text": "心裡有一把尺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1431.wav",
        "text": "我問你的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1432.wav",
        "text": "你不願意回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1433.wav",
        "text": "當然會成為立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1434.wav",
        "text": "最後要不要投同意票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1435.wav",
        "text": "還是不同意票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1436.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1437.wav",
        "text": "針對立委黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1438.wav",
        "text": "依照立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1439.wav",
        "text": "所發出去的問卷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1440.wav",
        "text": "社會大眾會檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1441.wav",
        "text": "非常愚蠢的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1442.wav",
        "text": "或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1443.wav",
        "text": "問了一堆根本就不應該問的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1444.wav",
        "text": "在很多立法院公開的場合裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1445.wav",
        "text": "你去問行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1446.wav",
        "text": "很蠢的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1447.wav",
        "text": "傷的是你自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1448.wav",
        "text": "也不會是被問問題的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1449.wav",
        "text": "嘛因此各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1450.wav",
        "text": "就依照立法院職權行使法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1451.wav",
        "text": "就做自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1452.wav",
        "text": "在同意權行使的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1453.wav",
        "text": "應該要做的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1454.wav",
        "text": "你認為你應該要做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1455.wav",
        "text": "被提名人覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1456.wav",
        "text": "你根本無理取鬧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1457.wav",
        "text": "寫了100題很蠢的問題要他回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1458.wav",
        "text": "那他為什麼要回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1459.wav",
        "text": "這個也是被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1460.wav",
        "text": "他們自己的選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1461.wav",
        "text": "我想就回到條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1462.wav",
        "text": "確實如剛剛在野的委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1463.wav",
        "text": "同意權的行使在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1464.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法第四章裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1465.wav",
        "text": "有明確的一些條文從第29條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1466.wav",
        "text": "開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1467.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也提到我們現在在協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1468.wav",
        "text": "討論的就是同意權行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1469.wav",
        "text": "在法律的授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1470.wav",
        "text": "之下我們在決定遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1471.wav",
        "text": "所以同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1472.wav",
        "text": "在條文裡頭沒有哪一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1473.wav",
        "text": "告訴我們各政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1474.wav",
        "text": "可以推幾位來詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1475.wav",
        "text": "每位幾分鐘這個條文也沒有明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1476.wav",
        "text": "因此我們現在協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1477.wav",
        "text": "就是針對合憲性解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1478.wav",
        "text": "下的同意權行使的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1479.wav",
        "text": "透過朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1480.wav",
        "text": "針對我們排幾天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1481.wav",
        "text": "然後政黨比例幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1482.wav",
        "text": "每位詢答多久我們正在做這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1483.wav",
        "text": "所以同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1484.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1485.wav",
        "text": "針對職權行使法第29條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1486.wav",
        "text": "第2項所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1487.wav",
        "text": "各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1488.wav",
        "text": "所提的這些書面提問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1489.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1490.wav",
        "text": "一個合宜的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1491.wav",
        "text": "就如同我們剛剛在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1492.wav",
        "text": "的是不是用政黨比例的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1493.wav",
        "text": "來明定一下題目的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1494.wav",
        "text": "我們當然不會去涵攝題目的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1495.wav",
        "text": "但是在數量上是不是能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1496.wav",
        "text": "做一個明確的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1497.wav",
        "text": "來討論看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1498.wav",
        "text": "事實上我甚至也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1499.wav",
        "text": "討論大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1500.wav",
        "text": "提問的數量是有其必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1501.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1502.wav",
        "text": "給予答復的期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1503.wav",
        "text": "所以當然不樂見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1504.wav",
        "text": "的限制大家要合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1505.wav",
        "text": "提問而事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1506.wav",
        "text": "個別委員或是黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1507.wav",
        "text": "在未及於用書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1508.wav",
        "text": "來詢問的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1509.wav",
        "text": "都可以在個別行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1510.wav",
        "text": "同意權的詢答過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1511.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛有在野黨的委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1512.wav",
        "text": "各自黨團提了什麼樣的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1513.wav",
        "text": "這個也都是公開的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1514.wav",
        "text": "會去問到什麼離譜的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1515.wav",
        "text": "否則貽笑大方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1516.wav",
        "text": "我只是要提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1517.wav",
        "text": "某黨團所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1518.wav",
        "text": "書面問題確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1519.wav",
        "text": "溢出了合宜的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1520.wav",
        "text": "譬如要求這些被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1521.wav",
        "text": "來對於還沒有進行憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1522.wav",
        "text": "解釋的條文內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1523.wav",
        "text": "看法跟觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1524.wav",
        "text": "我想這顯然就是不適宜的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1525.wav",
        "text": "我只是舉例這發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1526.wav",
        "text": "所以如果能夠的話大家在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1527.wav",
        "text": "遊戲規則題目的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1528.wav",
        "text": "上是不是能夠也循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1529.wav",
        "text": "我們推派詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1530.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣會更好大家有所依循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1531.wav",
        "text": "拋出來大家公開討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1532.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1533.wav",
        "text": "謝謝思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1534.wav",
        "text": "請林思銘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1535.wav",
        "text": "書記長發言柯總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1536.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1537.wav",
        "text": "院長我想我們立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1538.wav",
        "text": "不應該自我設限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1539.wav",
        "text": "因為現在立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1540.wav",
        "text": "有關這一部分並沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1541.wav",
        "text": "到什麼問問題要多少題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1542.wav",
        "text": "那我們自己就自我矮化說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1543.wav",
        "text": "我只能問幾題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1544.wav",
        "text": "我想這個是非常離譜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1545.wav",
        "text": "政黨你們有你們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1546.wav",
        "text": "你們對這些考委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1547.wav",
        "text": "有愛護他們的心態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1548.wav",
        "text": "像在當媽寶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1549.wav",
        "text": "怕他們不會回答問題不至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1550.wav",
        "text": "啦我想我們問的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1551.wav",
        "text": "也一定會非常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1552.wav",
        "text": "有深度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1553.wav",
        "text": "所以你也不要去考量我們會離題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1554.wav",
        "text": "離題我想設限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1555.wav",
        "text": "真的是自我矮化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1556.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝請柯總召發言台灣民眾黨請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1557.wav",
        "text": "我們並沒有說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1558.wav",
        "text": "媽寶不媽寶的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1559.wav",
        "text": "包括我們剛才講到政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1560.wav",
        "text": "說問的時候221"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1561.wav",
        "text": "也是法沒有明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1562.wav",
        "text": "我們是講一個原則通則性的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1563.wav",
        "text": "我剛才講的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1564.wav",
        "text": "每一個政黨的政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1565.wav",
        "text": "要幾個問題我們大家設定好就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1566.wav",
        "text": "當然一定要有政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1567.wav",
        "text": "這個我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1568.wav",
        "text": "有關個別委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1569.wav",
        "text": "要詢問個別委員的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1570.wav",
        "text": "那就在質詢的時候去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1571.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠走得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1572.wav",
        "text": "你這套也一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1573.wav",
        "text": "將來大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1574.wav",
        "text": "所以剛才黃國昌講了一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1575.wav",
        "text": "說他不回答也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1576.wav",
        "text": "但是我們一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1577.wav",
        "text": "弄一個遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1578.wav",
        "text": "真的是可長可久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1579.wav",
        "text": "可以不回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1580.wav",
        "text": "所以還是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1581.wav",
        "text": "否則的話我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1582.wav",
        "text": "所有的問題都有政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1583.wav",
        "text": "在這個地方突然就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1584.wav",
        "text": "多少題都沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1585.wav",
        "text": "我想這個也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1586.wav",
        "text": "很好他要有時間來回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1587.wav",
        "text": "原則（principle）上面來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1588.wav",
        "text": "這個事情比較合理化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1589.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1590.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1591.wav",
        "text": "有要補充意見嗎請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1592.wav",
        "text": "我再說明一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1593.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團依照立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1594.wav",
        "text": "他要問的問題就提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1595.wav",
        "text": "嘛各個黨團對各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1596.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的問題去負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1597.wav",
        "text": "我們是不支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1598.wav",
        "text": "在黨團協商的現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1599.wav",
        "text": "什麼政黨要有比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1600.wav",
        "text": "這樣的方式連問問題都要有比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1601.wav",
        "text": "然後要有問題數上面的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1602.wav",
        "text": "不好意思喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1603.wav",
        "text": "我說的比較直白一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1604.wav",
        "text": "這個我們不會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1605.wav",
        "text": "我們理解上不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1606.wav",
        "text": "我們遊戲規則要有一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1607.wav",
        "text": "各黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1608.wav",
        "text": "我們再休息3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1609.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝各黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1610.wav",
        "text": "感謝柯建銘總召要求再一次發言請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1611.wav",
        "text": "我今天在這裡發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1612.wav",
        "text": "大家請放心我們不會有這種心態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1613.wav",
        "text": "當然我是要建立一個憲政慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1614.wav",
        "text": "例從憲政體制上的高度來看這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1615.wav",
        "text": "當然我了解要去限制各黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1616.wav",
        "text": "現在大概談不下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1617.wav",
        "text": "我也可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1618.wav",
        "text": "但是我們的原則就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1619.wav",
        "text": "當你問他個別問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1620.wav",
        "text": "他可以留待你質詢的時候回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1621.wav",
        "text": "他可以先不回答剛才黃國昌委員所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1622.wav",
        "text": "不要當作他在筆試的時候沒有回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1623.wav",
        "text": "就變成一個口實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1624.wav",
        "text": "這就是民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1625.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召的叮嚀跟關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1626.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1627.wav",
        "text": "\n剛才我們的五點協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1628.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有任何寶貴意見要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1629.wav",
        "text": "嗎沒有的話我就先簽署好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1630.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1631.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1632.wav",
        "text": "各位在簽的時候容許我來唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1633.wav",
        "text": "\n立法院黨團協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1634.wav",
        "text": "113年11月12日（星期二）下午3點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1635.wav",
        "text": "地點紅樓302會議室決定事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1636.wav",
        "text": "一11月19日（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1637.wav",
        "text": "）邀請行政院院長主計長財政部部長及相關部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1638.wav",
        "text": "列席報告113年度中央政府總預算追加預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1639.wav",
        "text": "編製經過並備質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1640.wav",
        "text": "質詢人數由國民黨黨團推派9位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1641.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團推派9位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1642.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團推派1位進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1643.wav",
        "text": "質詢順序依例授權議事處辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1644.wav",
        "text": "上述名單請於11月18日（星期一）中午12點前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1645.wav",
        "text": "送至議事處彙整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1646.wav",
        "text": "議案詢答完畢後即交審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1647.wav",
        "text": "各黨團同意不再提出復議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1648.wav",
        "text": "關於這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1649.wav",
        "text": "追加預算的部分我們朝野協商預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1650.wav",
        "text": "預寫出來的這個草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1651.wav",
        "text": "大家同意不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1652.wav",
        "text": "好黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1653.wav",
        "text": "各黨團推派的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1654.wav",
        "text": "按照以前的例子要不然就771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1655.wav",
        "text": "要不然就992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1656.wav",
        "text": "一天的時間希望能夠充分使用的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1657.wav",
        "text": "讓大家想問的問題多問一點的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1658.wav",
        "text": "站在人民的立場來監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1659.wav",
        "text": "我覺得也是好事嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1660.wav",
        "text": "所以我只想要爭取一下啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1661.wav",
        "text": "是不是992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1662.wav",
        "text": "如果大家絕對沒有辦法同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1663.wav",
        "text": "那就回到以前的771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1664.wav",
        "text": "了解謝謝台灣民眾黨團黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1665.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請柯建銘總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1666.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1667.wav",
        "text": "上次曾經771後來變992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1668.wav",
        "text": "當然那時候是大家協調的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1669.wav",
        "text": "但是還是回到立法院長期以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1670.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有992這種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1671.wav",
        "text": "都是771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1672.wav",
        "text": "我們就不要破壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1673.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召提出771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1674.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1675.wav",
        "text": "好請傅崐萁總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1676.wav",
        "text": "其實我覺得我們大黨要有格局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1677.wav",
        "text": "很重要的人事權行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1678.wav",
        "text": "追加預算也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1679.wav",
        "text": "人事權也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1680.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們一樣的精神要一以貫之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1681.wav",
        "text": "難道預算案比人事權不重要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1682.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個很簡單的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1683.wav",
        "text": "我覺得大黨有很多的時間在表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1684.wav",
        "text": "我覺得讓小黨大家也可以講992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1685.wav",
        "text": "我覺得更無所謂啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1686.wav",
        "text": "這個無所謂啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1687.wav",
        "text": "對不對柯總召常常有一句話嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1688.wav",
        "text": "該來院會就要來院會嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1689.wav",
        "text": "該來報告就要來報告嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1690.wav",
        "text": "所以對過去柯總召常常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1691.wav",
        "text": "唸唸有詞不斷在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1692.wav",
        "text": "所以傅總召支持992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1693.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得992沒有什麼關係好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1694.wav",
        "text": "沒關係沒關係柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1695.wav",
        "text": "大家去翻閱所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1696.wav",
        "text": "政黨比例的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1697.wav",
        "text": "政黨比例就是771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1698.wav",
        "text": "當然那時候我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1699.wav",
        "text": "你們可以讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1700.wav",
        "text": "過去不管是台聯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1701.wav",
        "text": "不管是民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1702.wav",
        "text": "都是我們私下讓給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1703.wav",
        "text": "但是那個原則還是要守住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1704.wav",
        "text": "既然是政黨比例就按照政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1705.wav",
        "text": "也可以同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1706.wav",
        "text": "我想就照一貫原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1707.wav",
        "text": "這麼多年來事實上沒有破壞過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1708.wav",
        "text": "所以還是照政黨比例這樣處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1709.wav",
        "text": "否則要政黨比例幹什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1710.wav",
        "text": "好請台灣民眾黨黃總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1711.wav",
        "text": "我再說一次我的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1712.wav",
        "text": "按照比例我沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1713.wav",
        "text": "但如果是按照比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1714.wav",
        "text": "也不應該是991嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1715.wav",
        "text": "771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1716.wav",
        "text": "對啦但是現在發的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1717.wav",
        "text": "我是完全按照這個書面來發言嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1718.wav",
        "text": "你就改771嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1719.wav",
        "text": "如果按照柯建銘總召剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1720.wav",
        "text": "這個比例的原則這麼重要的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1721.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛簽的那個協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1722.wav",
        "text": "要不要再回去修改一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1723.wav",
        "text": "用771啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1724.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會改成331呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1725.wav",
        "text": "這個比例不對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1726.wav",
        "text": "這是剛性的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1727.wav",
        "text": "剛性的結論啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1728.wav",
        "text": "硬梆梆的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1729.wav",
        "text": "絕對鐵板一塊不容更改啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1730.wav",
        "text": "所以我會建議剛剛那個是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1731.wav",
        "text": "大家撤簽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1732.wav",
        "text": "把它改成771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1733.wav",
        "text": "這樣才會符合我們剛剛柯建銘總召所講的那個原則嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1734.wav",
        "text": "黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1735.wav",
        "text": "是同意權行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1736.wav",
        "text": "大家經過協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1737.wav",
        "text": "政黨比例的發言在立法院從來沒有被破壞過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1738.wav",
        "text": "我記得上次黃國昌委員本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1739.wav",
        "text": "來15分鐘他說可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1740.wav",
        "text": "給我20分鐘給我多5分鐘的時間來問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1741.wav",
        "text": "後來乾脆就992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1742.wav",
        "text": "那是一個破例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1743.wav",
        "text": "在質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1744.wav",
        "text": "我們總質詢是不是照政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1745.wav",
        "text": "一定是這樣嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1746.wav",
        "text": "所以這個東西我們來守住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1747.wav",
        "text": "也不差這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1748.wav",
        "text": "我並沒有不讓誰問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1749.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家我做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1750.wav",
        "text": "我的經驗回顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1751.wav",
        "text": "那一天是我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1752.wav",
        "text": "能源結構調整的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1753.wav",
        "text": "同樣面臨到一模一樣的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1754.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召提15分鐘實在太短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1755.wav",
        "text": "希望增加到20分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1756.wav",
        "text": "最後吳思瑤幹事長說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1757.wav",
        "text": "既然如此我們就992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1758.wav",
        "text": "如果我沒有記錯的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1759.wav",
        "text": "所以顯然992是有例可循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1760.wav",
        "text": "我也跟柯總召特別報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1761.wav",
        "text": "源頭就是因為黃國昌總召說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1762.wav",
        "text": "15分鐘我們真的很難表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1763.wav",
        "text": "我們希望有20分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1764.wav",
        "text": "最後才同意了992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1765.wav",
        "text": "我大致上這樣講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1766.wav",
        "text": "喚醒一下大家的回憶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1767.wav",
        "text": "我也要喚醒一下大家的記憶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1768.wav",
        "text": "不要把992變成是我套上去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1769.wav",
        "text": "當初我要求的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1770.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1771.wav",
        "text": "對於質詢的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1772.wav",
        "text": "不得逾15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1773.wav",
        "text": "是回歸法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1774.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤的發言一切都是依據我們的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1775.wav",
        "text": "所以才會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1776.wav",
        "text": "如果15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1777.wav",
        "text": "也為了讓小黨的發言可以充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1778.wav",
        "text": "上一次是一個善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1779.wav",
        "text": "是一個extra"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1780.wav",
        "text": "大家尊重小黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1781.wav",
        "text": "所以才會有15加15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1782.wav",
        "text": "我堅守住的是15分鐘為一個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1783.wav",
        "text": "所以院長不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1784.wav",
        "text": "不要這樣子斷章取義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1785.wav",
        "text": "或是把這個大帽子蓋在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1786.wav",
        "text": "我的身上OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1787.wav",
        "text": "立法院是一個有制度的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1788.wav",
        "text": "所以771那就771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1789.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤你剛剛那個廣告打得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1790.wav",
        "text": "重點的確是要維持那15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1791.wav",
        "text": "因此我們同意992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1792.wav",
        "text": "但是既然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1793.wav",
        "text": "我們在能源結構的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1794.wav",
        "text": "是992"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1795.wav",
        "text": "我們在追加預算的時候是不是要各黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1796.wav",
        "text": "我們共同來思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1797.wav",
        "text": "我們休息3分鐘好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1798.wav",
        "text": "也難得看到柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1799.wav",
        "text": "像一尊佛坐在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1800.wav",
        "text": "從協商開始都還蠻正常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1801.wav",
        "text": "現在竟然這個問題又觸礁了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1802.wav",
        "text": "我要講話你不要又拿麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1803.wav",
        "text": "你不要搶麥克風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1804.wav",
        "text": "\n院長我想這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1805.wav",
        "text": "啦因為剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1806.wav",
        "text": "柯總召一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1807.wav",
        "text": "議事慣例是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1808.wav",
        "text": "我第一次從吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1809.wav",
        "text": "瑤幹事長嘴裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1810.wav",
        "text": "聽到我很感動的一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1811.wav",
        "text": "立法院要照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1812.wav",
        "text": "議事規則來走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1813.wav",
        "text": "他們竟然都這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1814.wav",
        "text": "\n所以不管是771"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1815.wav",
        "text": "或992我都支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1816.wav",
        "text": "但是我會把它一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1817.wav",
        "text": "如果是771的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1818.wav",
        "text": "國民黨跟民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1819.wav",
        "text": "們藍白再討論就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1820.wav",
        "text": "自己來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1821.wav",
        "text": "混合編組都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1822.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1823.wav",
        "text": "跟柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1824.wav",
        "text": "不斷的強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1825.wav",
        "text": "一定要照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1826.wav",
        "text": "我想今天錄音錄影都有存證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1827.wav",
        "text": "以後我們常拿這段出來放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1828.wav",
        "text": "就這樣我們還是請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1829.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1830.wav",
        "text": "好柯總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1831.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1832.wav",
        "text": "因為政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1833.wav",
        "text": "政黨比例牽涉到將來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1834.wav",
        "text": "委員會人數的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1835.wav",
        "text": "以及召委選舉的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1836.wav",
        "text": "所以這個要非常慎重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1837.wav",
        "text": "過去就是像這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1838.wav",
        "text": "混合編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1839.wav",
        "text": "啦就是誰讓自己去處理就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1840.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得這樣比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1841.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1842.wav",
        "text": "黃總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1843.wav",
        "text": "基本上就是一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1844.wav",
        "text": "其他黨團的好意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1845.wav",
        "text": "有人說要讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1846.wav",
        "text": "有人說要混合編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1847.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1848.wav",
        "text": "我們要的就是按照原則來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1849.wav",
        "text": "在這件事情上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1850.wav",
        "text": "我們不會要求什麼特別的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1851.wav",
        "text": "要771也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1852.wav",
        "text": "只是說可能下一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1853.wav",
        "text": "今天看起來協商剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1854.wav",
        "text": "剛聽院長的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1855.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1856.wav",
        "text": "到6點為止嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1857.wav",
        "text": "沒有要繼續下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1858.wav",
        "text": "可能也請議事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1859.wav",
        "text": "議事處的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1860.wav",
        "text": "稍微辛苦一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1861.wav",
        "text": "因為我們凡事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1862.wav",
        "text": "要按照規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1863.wav",
        "text": "如果凡事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1864.wav",
        "text": "要按照規則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1865.wav",
        "text": "要把它計算好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1866.wav",
        "text": "\n所謂數學要計算好是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1867.wav",
        "text": "現在台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1868.wav",
        "text": "8席嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1869.wav",
        "text": "8席除以8等於1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1870.wav",
        "text": "數學是不會騙人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1871.wav",
        "text": "8除以8等於1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1872.wav",
        "text": "嘛51除以8等於多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1873.wav",
        "text": "54除以8等於多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1874.wav",
        "text": "這個數學的商數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1875.wav",
        "text": "要把它算出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1876.wav",
        "text": "因為我老實講按照數學的商數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1877.wav",
        "text": "來加以計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1878.wav",
        "text": "正確的比例是7比6比1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1879.wav",
        "text": "這才是正確數學商數的計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1880.wav",
        "text": "這個數學一點都不困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1881.wav",
        "text": "因為51除以8等於多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1882.wav",
        "text": "51除以8等於六點三多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1883.wav",
        "text": "四捨五入根本不到7"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1884.wav",
        "text": "這很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1885.wav",
        "text": "啊這牽涉到我們立法院以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1886.wav",
        "text": "遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1887.wav",
        "text": "的大是大非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1888.wav",
        "text": "數學也沒很複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1889.wav",
        "text": "8除以8等於1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1890.wav",
        "text": "請問51除以8等於多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1891.wav",
        "text": "等於六點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1892.wav",
        "text": "沒有超過6.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1893.wav",
        "text": "那54除以8等於多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1894.wav",
        "text": "等於六點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1895.wav",
        "text": "所以正確的比例應該是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1896.wav",
        "text": "應該是7比6比1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1897.wav",
        "text": "這個才是正確的prop"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1898.wav",
        "text": "n這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1899.wav",
        "text": "事情一點都不複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1900.wav",
        "text": "院長麻煩我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1901.wav",
        "text": "議事組的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1902.wav",
        "text": "稍微計算一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1903.wav",
        "text": "這個原則非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1904.wav",
        "text": "我覺得就把它給定下來好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1905.wav",
        "text": "以後我們也不用為了這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1906.wav",
        "text": "再多做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1907.wav",
        "text": "數學是騙不了人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1908.wav",
        "text": "這是政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1909.wav",
        "text": "國民黨政黨是52人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1910.wav",
        "text": "不是51人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1911.wav",
        "text": "不是黨團比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1912.wav",
        "text": "不是有兩位加入你們嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1913.wav",
        "text": "我沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1914.wav",
        "text": "要幫中國國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1915.wav",
        "text": "那是黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1916.wav",
        "text": "一樣一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1917.wav",
        "text": "你要用政黨比例也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1918.wav",
        "text": "啊看你應該用政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1919.wav",
        "text": "還是用黨團人數當比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1920.wav",
        "text": "我們授權議事人員去計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1921.wav",
        "text": "對嘛那算起來也應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1922.wav",
        "text": "6比6比1吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1923.wav",
        "text": "不要和稀泥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1924.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1925.wav",
        "text": "我再重申一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1926.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們不會要人家讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1927.wav",
        "text": "第二個我也不會要人家混合編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1928.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1929.wav",
        "text": "把數學算清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1930.wav",
        "text": "這樣就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1931.wav",
        "text": "如果真的從國民黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1932.wav",
        "text": "到底要用52還是54算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1933.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1934.wav",
        "text": "沒有要置喙的餘地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1935.wav",
        "text": "我尊重中國國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1936.wav",
        "text": "因為我自己的認知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1937.wav",
        "text": "高金素梅委員跟另外一個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1938.wav",
        "text": "是加入中國國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1939.wav",
        "text": "來運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1940.wav",
        "text": "的嘛在立法院裡面運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1941.wav",
        "text": "當然應該要按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1942.wav",
        "text": "加入各個黨團的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1943.wav",
        "text": "來計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1944.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1945.wav",
        "text": "我現在在發言你憑什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1946.wav",
        "text": "按麥克風說我不准再吵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1947.wav",
        "text": "這個是哪門子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1948.wav",
        "text": "議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1949.wav",
        "text": "請你把你的麥克風給熄掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1950.wav",
        "text": "如果要按照黨團人數的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1951.wav",
        "text": "今天這個數字是錯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1952.wav",
        "text": "應該是7比6比1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1953.wav",
        "text": "如果中國國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1954.wav",
        "text": "認為高金跟另外一位加入黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1955.wav",
        "text": "不要列入計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1956.wav",
        "text": "要6比6比1我們也沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1957.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得這個原則很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1958.wav",
        "text": "牽涉到大是大非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1959.wav",
        "text": "我們這一次把規則定清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1960.wav",
        "text": "以後這件事情就不要再爭論了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1961.wav",
        "text": "柯總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1962.wav",
        "text": "政黨比例和黨團比例不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1963.wav",
        "text": "不論職權行使法包括組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1964.wav",
        "text": "都寫政黨比例沒有黨團比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1965.wav",
        "text": "這個名詞好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1966.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1967.wav",
        "text": "我好想再喊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1968.wav",
        "text": "休息3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1969.wav",
        "text": "來我跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1970.wav",
        "text": "明天後天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1971.wav",
        "text": "請大家做好心理準備我們要繼續黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1972.wav",
        "text": "明後天可能要稍微早一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1973.wav",
        "text": "的數字已經在我手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1974.wav",
        "text": "下一次我們來做一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1975.wav",
        "text": "讓大家更能清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1976.wav",
        "text": "今天前面都非常的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1977.wav",
        "text": "後面大家意見有一點不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1978.wav",
        "text": "接近6點了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1979.wav",
        "text": "題目就找時間再來繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1980.wav",
        "text": "協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1981.wav",
        "text": "我們休息3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1982.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1983.wav",
        "text": "大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1984.wav",
        "text": "我們星期四下午兩點繼續朝野協商好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1985.wav",
        "text": "我們就不限時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1986.wav",
        "text": "星期四就一直往下推了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1987.wav",
        "text": "好不好下次順便會跟各位報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1988.wav",
        "text": "以後政黨發言的比例數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1989.wav",
        "text": "一併跟大家報告好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16252/1990.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部列席非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/1.wav",
        "text": "而且今天久違了我們柯建銘柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/2.wav",
        "text": "也終於現身了大家都非常開心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/3.wav",
        "text": "好久沒見好久沒見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/4.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部大家都非常關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/5.wav",
        "text": "總預算案在朝野的努力之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/6.wav",
        "text": "原則上大家都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/7.wav",
        "text": "的話我們就開始簽字確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/8.wav",
        "text": "讓本案能夠付委審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/9.wav",
        "text": "將來我們還要針對本案進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/10.wav",
        "text": "院會的二讀三讀才能完成本案的審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/11.wav",
        "text": "大家繼續努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/12.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我在這裡嘗試性地唸一個協商的草稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/13.wav",
        "text": "請問發到每個黨團幹部手上沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/14.wav",
        "text": "我們請議事人員發到每個黨團幹部手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/15.wav",
        "text": "來速度快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/16.wav",
        "text": "請大家仔細聆聽立法院黨團協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/17.wav",
        "text": "時間113年11月8日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/18.wav",
        "text": "（星期五）上午10時地點紅樓302會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/19.wav",
        "text": "協商主題研商『114年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/20.wav",
        "text": "中央政府總預算案』相關事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/21.wav",
        "text": "各黨團同意行政院針對原住民禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/22.wav",
        "text": "健保點值及公糧收購等案之解決方案如後附"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/23.wav",
        "text": "並請行政院依該解決方案期程辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/24.wav",
        "text": "\n二各黨團同意『114年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/25.wav",
        "text": "中央政府總預算案後續處理事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/26.wav",
        "text": "』增列納入第8次會議議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/27.wav",
        "text": "於11月8日（星期五）院會討論事項前處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/28.wav",
        "text": "將『114年度中央政府總預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/29.wav",
        "text": "』交財政委員會依分配表及日程分送各委員會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/30.wav",
        "text": "並不提出復議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/31.wav",
        "text": "我們初步所草擬的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/32.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/33.wav",
        "text": "我先簽字好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/34.wav",
        "text": "我們先確定這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/35.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/36.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我們繼續開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/37.wav",
        "text": "首先我們請民進黨團柯總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/38.wav",
        "text": "院長各位協商代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/39.wav",
        "text": "尤其在野黨釋出的善意和行政院之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/40.wav",
        "text": "憲法原則及預算法底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/41.wav",
        "text": "大家把這三個問題一起解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/42.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很好的開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/43.wav",
        "text": "正如傅總召所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/44.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/45.wav",
        "text": "那在往前走的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/46.wav",
        "text": "我先針對今天的議程上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/47.wav",
        "text": "做一些嘗試性的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/48.wav",
        "text": "立場因為今天民眾黨第一個先到立法院遞案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/49.wav",
        "text": "裡面有報告事項及討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/50.wav",
        "text": "我們也遞案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/51.wav",
        "text": "了在這裡我們就打開天窗說亮話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/52.wav",
        "text": "針對民眾黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/53.wav",
        "text": "我們的提案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/54.wav",
        "text": "有包括沈伯洋等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/55.wav",
        "text": "人所提的六七個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/56.wav",
        "text": "兩岸人民關係條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/57.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們就撤了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/58.wav",
        "text": "今天不處理這些爭議性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/59.wav",
        "text": "就照民眾黨所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/60.wav",
        "text": "報告事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/61.wav",
        "text": "這樣順勢走下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/62.wav",
        "text": "\n另外就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/63.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/64.wav",
        "text": "我們看了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/65.wav",
        "text": "有的復議案是今天可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/66.wav",
        "text": "至於幾個人事同意權案的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/67.wav",
        "text": "我在這裡做嘗試性的說法好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/68.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們開始要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/69.wav",
        "text": "立法院如何正式來運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/70.wav",
        "text": "而且時間很短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/71.wav",
        "text": "權和國營事業預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/72.wav",
        "text": "等等都必須完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/73.wav",
        "text": "後面還有很冗長的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/74.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是下禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/75.wav",
        "text": "針對三項人事同意權案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/76.wav",
        "text": "以及兩項的預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/77.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/78.wav",
        "text": "今年度的營業及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/79.wav",
        "text": "非營業基金的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/80.wav",
        "text": "因為提案已經到昨天截止了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/81.wav",
        "text": "有關於台電的追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/82.wav",
        "text": "也要安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/83.wav",
        "text": "專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/84.wav",
        "text": "所以這幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/85.wav",
        "text": "討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/86.wav",
        "text": "我是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/87.wav",
        "text": "剛好我們可以來好好的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/88.wav",
        "text": "後面的三個人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/89.wav",
        "text": "案及兩個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/90.wav",
        "text": "案的時程如何安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/91.wav",
        "text": "我特別再次拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/92.wav",
        "text": "就是我們都照民眾黨所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/93.wav",
        "text": "不要表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/94.wav",
        "text": "但是在這裡特別要請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/95.wav",
        "text": "就是有一些查照案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/96.wav",
        "text": "上次已經退回了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/97.wav",
        "text": "我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/98.wav",
        "text": "用十幾分鐘把它唸完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/99.wav",
        "text": "這樣整個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/100.wav",
        "text": "就會很完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/101.wav",
        "text": "而且速度也很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/102.wav",
        "text": "下禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/103.wav",
        "text": "我們專心來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/104.wav",
        "text": "和兩大預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/105.wav",
        "text": "因為這個時間也滿急的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/106.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/107.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/108.wav",
        "text": "所講大部分的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/109.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/110.wav",
        "text": "但是查照案的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/111.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要詳細的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/112.wav",
        "text": "再表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/113.wav",
        "text": "那就改審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/114.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/115.wav",
        "text": "你看哪一個要改審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/116.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團先處理一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/117.wav",
        "text": "程序上處理就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/118.wav",
        "text": "是不是要今天查照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/119.wav",
        "text": "還是下禮拜查照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/120.wav",
        "text": "可能我們study完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/121.wav",
        "text": "很快啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/122.wav",
        "text": "我們study完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/123.wav",
        "text": "我覺得柯總召這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/124.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/125.wav",
        "text": "大家秉持善意都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/126.wav",
        "text": "相當的誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/127.wav",
        "text": "啦尤其昨天柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/128.wav",
        "text": "也深明大義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/129.wav",
        "text": "所以我想未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/130.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都會秉持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/131.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個氛圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/132.wav",
        "text": "有幫忙的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/133.wav",
        "text": "要照民眾黨所提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/134.wav",
        "text": "相關案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/135.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團表示同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/136.wav",
        "text": "意識形態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/137.wav",
        "text": "回也是對立法院的一個尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/138.wav",
        "text": "我想我們也敬表支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/139.wav",
        "text": "對於查照案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/140.wav",
        "text": "我們可能要再review一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/141.wav",
        "text": "看是今天還是下禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/142.wav",
        "text": "我覺得讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/143.wav",
        "text": "能夠把它確認清楚完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/144.wav",
        "text": "會比較適當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/145.wav",
        "text": "我們也會參酌尊重柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/146.wav",
        "text": "那我們把內容先review完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/147.wav",
        "text": "再做一個明確的答復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/148.wav",
        "text": "我們都秉持善意處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/149.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/150.wav",
        "text": "下次查照也無所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/151.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/152.wav",
        "text": "今天很難得見到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/153.wav",
        "text": "慈眉善目的柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/154.wav",
        "text": "溫良恭儉讓的傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/155.wav",
        "text": "中原九大門派的黃總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/156.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/157.wav",
        "text": "今天很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/158.wav",
        "text": "看到柯總召參加協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/159.wav",
        "text": "不管朝野政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/160.wav",
        "text": "各自的政治立場怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/161.wav",
        "text": "先代表黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/162.wav",
        "text": "預祝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/163.wav",
        "text": "希望身體可以早日康復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/164.wav",
        "text": "我覺得政治不能脫離人性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/165.wav",
        "text": "這麼久沒有看到柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/166.wav",
        "text": "我覺得該有的禮數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/167.wav",
        "text": "說完以後我們就切入正題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/168.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/169.wav",
        "text": "針對報告事項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/170.wav",
        "text": "依照我們今天早上送案的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/171.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/172.wav",
        "text": "當然不會有任何意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/173.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/174.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯總召針對我們的討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/175.wav",
        "text": "排序的第三案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/176.wav",
        "text": "──考試院人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/177.wav",
        "text": "時程的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/178.wav",
        "text": "拋出了那樣子解決的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/179.wav",
        "text": "我只是想代表黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/180.wav",
        "text": "再次重申我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/181.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/182.wav",
        "text": "對於人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/183.wav",
        "text": "我們就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/184.wav",
        "text": "實質審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/185.wav",
        "text": "從嚴審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/186.wav",
        "text": "我也要拜託執政團隊的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/187.wav",
        "text": "不要繼續在新聞媒體上面散播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/188.wav",
        "text": "說我們在擋人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/189.wav",
        "text": "這樣的氣氛會很糟糕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/190.wav",
        "text": "因為當你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/191.wav",
        "text": "我們在擋人事同意權的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/192.wav",
        "text": "那我就必須要用具體的行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/193.wav",
        "text": "我正式提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/194.wav",
        "text": "我也召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/195.wav",
        "text": "冷凍期也過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/196.wav",
        "text": "所以今天排案要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/197.wav",
        "text": "當然我理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/198.wav",
        "text": "從民進黨的立場來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/199.wav",
        "text": "他們可能希望所有的人事案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/200.wav",
        "text": "那今天氣氛很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/201.wav",
        "text": "剛剛院長也幫忙說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/202.wav",
        "text": "院長也願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/203.wav",
        "text": "就人事同意權審查的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/204.wav",
        "text": "發揮其調和鼎鼐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/205.wav",
        "text": "能力看大家是不是能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/206.wav",
        "text": "形成一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/207.wav",
        "text": "所以就我們到討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/208.wav",
        "text": "第三案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/209.wav",
        "text": "就是考試院人事同意權的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/210.wav",
        "text": "我們願意同意民進黨黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/211.wav",
        "text": "提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/212.wav",
        "text": "以及剛剛院長所表達的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/213.wav",
        "text": "就讓院長適合地調和看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/214.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/215.wav",
        "text": "在下個禮拜挑一個大家都方便的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/216.wav",
        "text": "針對具體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/217.wav",
        "text": "時程是不是有辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/218.wav",
        "text": "\n只是最後我想要確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/219.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/220.wav",
        "text": "前兩案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/221.wav",
        "text": "包括針對翁曉玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/222.wav",
        "text": "他們的復議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/223.wav",
        "text": "以及NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/224.wav",
        "text": "那我們是不是就按照程序進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/225.wav",
        "text": "我講一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/226.wav",
        "text": "翁曉玲的復議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/227.wav",
        "text": "反正都要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/228.wav",
        "text": "了我們都要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/229.wav",
        "text": "三個人事同意權兩個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/230.wav",
        "text": "也是要院長召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/231.wav",
        "text": "思瑤委員你稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/232.wav",
        "text": "柯總召講完再說好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/233.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長請稍待一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/234.wav",
        "text": "我是補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/235.wav",
        "text": "好你補充請補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/236.wav",
        "text": "我們當初的立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/237.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法針對人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/238.wav",
        "text": "進行的一些條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/239.wav",
        "text": "其實立法院應當去審視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/240.wav",
        "text": "因為現在條文會比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/241.wav",
        "text": "碎裂有些違憲有些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/242.wav",
        "text": "合憲然後再搭配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/243.wav",
        "text": "現行的原有條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/244.wav",
        "text": "所以立法院現在要做的一個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/245.wav",
        "text": "是針對釋憲結果之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/246.wav",
        "text": "把有關立法院職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/247.wav",
        "text": "行使法人事同意權的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/248.wav",
        "text": "乃至於行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/249.wav",
        "text": "同意權的這整個流程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/250.wav",
        "text": "法律的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/251.wav",
        "text": "我們要朝野協商確認清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/252.wav",
        "text": "一旦確認清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/253.wav",
        "text": "針對未來在立法院的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/254.wav",
        "text": "這些步驟就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/255.wav",
        "text": "很明確所以這個必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/256.wav",
        "text": "先協調協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/257.wav",
        "text": "大家確認了未來的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/258.wav",
        "text": "而且這要合乎憲法意旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/259.wav",
        "text": "然後我們就可以很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/260.wav",
        "text": "地未來不管是NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/261.wav",
        "text": "這些都有一套制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/262.wav",
        "text": "韓院長下週"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/263.wav",
        "text": "行使的這些期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/264.wav",
        "text": "包括這些程序我們做明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/265.wav",
        "text": "未來就很快地都可以推進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/266.wav",
        "text": "每一個人事同意權就都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/267.wav",
        "text": "依序進行這是我們補充的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/268.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/269.wav",
        "text": "啊NCC組織法今天可以處理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/270.wav",
        "text": "還是要院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/271.wav",
        "text": "三項同意權我們都要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/272.wav",
        "text": "同意權是兩回事我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/273.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法已經滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/274.wav",
        "text": "我現在講一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/275.wav",
        "text": "我知道你的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/276.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們是一致的就是該處理就處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/277.wav",
        "text": "該面對就面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/278.wav",
        "text": "因為時間已經到了我們也不能拖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/279.wav",
        "text": "我們該怎麼樣面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/280.wav",
        "text": "我們就面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/281.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是遊戲規則大家講清楚就往下一直走下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/282.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/283.wav",
        "text": "因為今天勢必沒有辦法談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/284.wav",
        "text": "談到那裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/285.wav",
        "text": "請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/286.wav",
        "text": "因為今天柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/287.wav",
        "text": "來實際參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/288.wav",
        "text": "為了歡迎柯總召回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/289.wav",
        "text": "不要讓難得的好的氣氛破壞掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/290.wav",
        "text": "只不過說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/291.wav",
        "text": "剛剛在跟院長溝通的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/292.wav",
        "text": "要跟院長報告的事情是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/293.wav",
        "text": "我們目前所提出來的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/294.wav",
        "text": "都是按照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/295.wav",
        "text": "在走的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/296.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/297.wav",
        "text": "要確認清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/298.wav",
        "text": "在這個基礎上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/299.wav",
        "text": "為了表達善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/300.wav",
        "text": "我們可以多等一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/301.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/302.wav",
        "text": "但是我們的提案都是按照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/303.wav",
        "text": "在走的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/304.wav",
        "text": "這個事情要確認清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/305.wav",
        "text": "院長你會非常疲憊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/306.wav",
        "text": "書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/307.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長就報告事項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/308.wav",
        "text": "我們國民黨也有提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/309.wav",
        "text": "跟民進黨提的其實內容是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/310.wav",
        "text": "併案一起作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/311.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要再次重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/312.wav",
        "text": "其實我們跟民眾黨的立場是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/313.wav",
        "text": "我們從來沒有卡人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/314.wav",
        "text": "所以不要再說我們擋了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/315.wav",
        "text": "要來協商人事案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/316.wav",
        "text": "國會改革五法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/317.wav",
        "text": "已經出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/318.wav",
        "text": "我們當然也有一些細節要談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/319.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我們也贊成在星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/320.wav",
        "text": "看到底要按照什麼樣的程序來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/321.wav",
        "text": "這個部分沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/322.wav",
        "text": "\n至於NCC的部分是不是一定要等到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/323.wav",
        "text": "再做一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/324.wav",
        "text": "還是今天我們可以做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/325.wav",
        "text": "我覺得今天就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/326.wav",
        "text": "跟翁曉玲委員的案子一起處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/327.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/328.wav",
        "text": "我最後補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/329.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得今天真的氣氛都很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/330.wav",
        "text": "大家就在這個基礎上前進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/331.wav",
        "text": "我們都非常尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/332.wav",
        "text": "而且剛剛黃國昌總召也說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/333.wav",
        "text": "我們都依議事程序來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/334.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法在10月22日的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/335.wav",
        "text": "那就是黃國昌總召召集的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/336.wav",
        "text": "當天的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/337.wav",
        "text": "就是該法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/338.wav",
        "text": "要送交韓院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/339.wav",
        "text": "所以這就是一個符合程序的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/340.wav",
        "text": "所以勢必還是要有韓院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/341.wav",
        "text": "所以就依這個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/342.wav",
        "text": "下午來進行朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/343.wav",
        "text": "重大議案包括人事案NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/344.wav",
        "text": "（好）好如果確定我們今天朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/345.wav",
        "text": "大家都簽好字了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/346.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/347.wav",
        "text": "再次感謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/348.wav",
        "text": "\n簽好字了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/349.wav",
        "text": "現在都簽好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/350.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下在院會就要唸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/351.wav",
        "text": "我們就可以散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16245/352.wav",
        "text": "面\n再次謝謝大家也祝福大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/0.wav",
        "text": "還有我們行政機關的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1.wav",
        "text": "教育部同仁辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2.wav",
        "text": "今天真的是非常長的一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/3.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在就來進行黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/4.wav",
        "text": "我們的主題是教育及文化委員會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/5.wav",
        "text": "併案審查委員范雲等17人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/6.wav",
        "text": "擬具學生輔導法部分條文修正草案等30案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/7.wav",
        "text": "還有經院會逕付二讀與相關提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/8.wav",
        "text": "併案協商的行政院函"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/9.wav",
        "text": "請審議等5案的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/10.wav",
        "text": "希望今天真的是能有一個結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/11.wav",
        "text": "我想學生輔導法如果能夠順利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/12.wav",
        "text": "通過是全民之福啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/13.wav",
        "text": "我們在7月4日跟8日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/14.wav",
        "text": "已經完成逐條審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/15.wav",
        "text": "已經保留送協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/16.wav",
        "text": "另外在7月11日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/17.wav",
        "text": "就在今天之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/18.wav",
        "text": "我們有個黨團協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/19.wav",
        "text": "的結論幫大家複習一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/20.wav",
        "text": "第4條跟第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/21.wav",
        "text": "還有第十七條及增訂第10條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/22.wav",
        "text": "含各條對應的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/23.wav",
        "text": "這些是我們今天討論的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/24.wav",
        "text": "我們也通過附帶決議共1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/25.wav",
        "text": "原審查會保留及新增的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/26.wav",
        "text": "共15案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/27.wav",
        "text": "我們都是保留的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/28.wav",
        "text": "我們保留的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/29.wav",
        "text": "就是等一下要來討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/30.wav",
        "text": "需要再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/31.wav",
        "text": "唸一次嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/32.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/33.wav",
        "text": "我們先把我們已經有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/34.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以幫助大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/35.wav",
        "text": "因為已經很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/36.wav",
        "text": "我們的記憶都有點模糊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/37.wav",
        "text": "第4條第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/38.wav",
        "text": "還是不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/39.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/40.wav",
        "text": "不需要的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/41.wav",
        "text": "我是不是先作成一個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/42.wav",
        "text": "有關薪資的部分是重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/43.wav",
        "text": "也是最多人會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/44.wav",
        "text": "我相信是等一下討論最多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/45.wav",
        "text": "為了增進我們的進程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/46.wav",
        "text": "是不是先從第7條之1討論完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/47.wav",
        "text": "最後再到第4條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/48.wav",
        "text": "那個是最多討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/49.wav",
        "text": "否則我們會變成沒有進展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/50.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/51.wav",
        "text": "現在大家看增訂第7條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/52.wav",
        "text": "大家翻過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/53.wav",
        "text": "我們先討論第7條之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/54.wav",
        "text": "我想這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/55.wav",
        "text": "因為也跟教育部來回溝通了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/56.wav",
        "text": "我原來希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/57.wav",
        "text": "主張有系統性因素調查的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/58.wav",
        "text": "部分部長都有表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/59.wav",
        "text": "他非常願意做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/60.wav",
        "text": "他希望不要入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/61.wav",
        "text": "我還是要提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/62.wav",
        "text": "我主張的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/63.wav",
        "text": "因為上次都有跟教育部討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/64.wav",
        "text": "協商後我們也有跟學特司討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/65.wav",
        "text": "不是會讓家屬遺族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/66.wav",
        "text": "覺得很悲痛的個案追蹤回溯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/67.wav",
        "text": "而比較是社會學式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/68.wav",
        "text": "我們認為要做系統性的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/69.wav",
        "text": "對環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/70.wav",
        "text": "身心健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/71.wav",
        "text": "就是不利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/72.wav",
        "text": "身心健康的系統性因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/73.wav",
        "text": "能夠參考國際的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/74.wav",
        "text": "進行調查研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/75.wav",
        "text": "而且當然研究公布之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/76.wav",
        "text": "\n但是因為跟教育部的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/77.wav",
        "text": "先謝謝教育部願意做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/78.wav",
        "text": "啦而且我們部長也是相關領域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/79.wav",
        "text": "出身的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/80.wav",
        "text": "所以我就不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/81.wav",
        "text": "一定要放在條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/82.wav",
        "text": "我這邊有個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/83.wav",
        "text": "就是我剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/84.wav",
        "text": "希望參考國際經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/85.wav",
        "text": "然後針對學生身心健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/86.wav",
        "text": "不利的系統性因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/87.wav",
        "text": "不是要做過去衛福部的那種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/88.wav",
        "text": "個案回溯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/89.wav",
        "text": "而覺得無法執行的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/90.wav",
        "text": "我也希望教育部是獨立做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/91.wav",
        "text": "衛福部做他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/92.wav",
        "text": "可是我們是在國教環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/93.wav",
        "text": "也許學校升學壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/94.wav",
        "text": "等各方面都有一些不利的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/95.wav",
        "text": "當然這次學輔法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/96.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導的人力的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/97.wav",
        "text": "也許我們可以慢慢改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/98.wav",
        "text": "我想這種系統性的研究做了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/99.wav",
        "text": "未來相關的學輔資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/100.wav",
        "text": "如何總不能一直增加這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/101.wav",
        "text": "然後不改善環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/102.wav",
        "text": "我們才能夠有整體好的政策導引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/103.wav",
        "text": "所以我這邊不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/104.wav",
        "text": "但是我有個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/105.wav",
        "text": "希望大家能夠支持通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/106.wav",
        "text": "如果是附帶決議的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/107.wav",
        "text": "因為我們沒有第7條之1的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/108.wav",
        "text": "所以附帶決議就變成是一個空的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/109.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/110.wav",
        "text": "就沒有附屬在哪個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/111.wav",
        "text": "我們先把這個部分釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/112.wav",
        "text": "教育部應該知道第7條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/113.wav",
        "text": "我非常非常的堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/114.wav",
        "text": "但是剛剛主席已經提醒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/115.wav",
        "text": "沒有條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/116.wav",
        "text": "但後續的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/117.wav",
        "text": "我們可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/118.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再次強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/119.wav",
        "text": "我的堅持其來有自"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/120.wav",
        "text": "除了認同范雲委員剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/121.wav",
        "text": "系統性的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/122.wav",
        "text": "在我自己的版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/123.wav",
        "text": "我寫的也是系統性的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/124.wav",
        "text": "因為這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/125.wav",
        "text": "我知道其實一併調整了人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/126.wav",
        "text": "調整了薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/127.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們期待在現場的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/128.wav",
        "text": "更充足的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/129.wav",
        "text": "我們的想像可能是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/130.wav",
        "text": "輔導的量能可以提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/131.wav",
        "text": "可以讓學生相關的複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/132.wav",
        "text": "負面的因素可以降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/133.wav",
        "text": "但我們還是要面對一個困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/134.wav",
        "text": "其實在前一個版本的學輔法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/135.wav",
        "text": "一直到現在人員都還沒有到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/136.wav",
        "text": "但現在這個版本的學輔法修完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/137.wav",
        "text": "到底多久可以到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/138.wav",
        "text": "其實我們並不真的知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/139.wav",
        "text": "我相信教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/140.wav",
        "text": "雖然有想像有規劃有承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/141.wav",
        "text": "其實是人從哪裡來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/142.wav",
        "text": "光是現場的正式教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/143.wav",
        "text": "代理老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/144.wav",
        "text": "特教老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/145.wav",
        "text": "特教助理都已經有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/146.wav",
        "text": "更何況輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/147.wav",
        "text": "但是因為孩子們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/148.wav",
        "text": "自殘行為越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/149.wav",
        "text": "而且樣態越來越複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/150.wav",
        "text": "家長的狀況也越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/151.wav",
        "text": "所以我才主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/152.wav",
        "text": "我們可不可以有系統性的死因回溯調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/153.wav",
        "text": "我當然知道有非常多的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/154.wav",
        "text": "可是我不認為我們臺灣的學術研究團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/155.wav",
        "text": "或者是臺灣的專業團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/156.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/157.wav",
        "text": "支撐起相關的專業研究跟調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/158.wav",
        "text": "我認為是有能量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/159.wav",
        "text": "我相信范雲委員來自學界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/160.wav",
        "text": "也一定相信臺灣的學術界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/161.wav",
        "text": "絕對有這個能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/162.wav",
        "text": "不然衛福部現在不會推零到六歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/163.wav",
        "text": "我認為我們要認真面對這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/164.wav",
        "text": "\n悲傷的例子已經很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/165.wav",
        "text": "我就不再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/166.wav",
        "text": "但是我想要舉一個近期的案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/167.wav",
        "text": "其實連我自己都非常震撼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/168.wav",
        "text": "我自己小孩的學校最近又出事了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/169.wav",
        "text": "而我們身為家長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/170.wav",
        "text": "第一時間收到這個訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/171.wav",
        "text": "我們當然得花很多力氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/172.wav",
        "text": "跟我們自己的孩子溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/173.wav",
        "text": "我個人也以家長的名義去跟學校確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/174.wav",
        "text": "學校的輔諮資源是夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/175.wav",
        "text": "但我要談的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/176.wav",
        "text": "這個孩子他在段考前後出了這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/177.wav",
        "text": "我們並不知道是不是因為考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/178.wav",
        "text": "我們可以猜想這個孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/179.wav",
        "text": "在決定離開人世之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/180.wav",
        "text": "他可能還遭遇了別的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/181.wav",
        "text": "而那個事情會不會跟整體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/182.wav",
        "text": "教學現場環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/183.wav",
        "text": "原生家庭的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/184.wav",
        "text": "甚至當孩子進入學校之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/185.wav",
        "text": "他還有在社團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/186.wav",
        "text": "在其他的人際關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/187.wav",
        "text": "在網路上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/188.wav",
        "text": "實體的跟網路上都會有這些困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/189.wav",
        "text": "如果國家不願意用有系統的態度去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/190.wav",
        "text": "我認為這個問題只會越來越嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/191.wav",
        "text": "\n這一次我還是可以接受教育部的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/192.wav",
        "text": "你們不想入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/193.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/194.wav",
        "text": "但是我認為附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/195.wav",
        "text": "的部分我的附帶決議版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/196.wav",
        "text": "是希望在本法修正後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/197.wav",
        "text": "通過六個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/198.wav",
        "text": "辦理學生自殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/199.wav",
        "text": "嚴重自我傷害事件分析研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/200.wav",
        "text": "再把這個研究結果提供相關建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/201.wav",
        "text": "進行校園防治工作推展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/202.wav",
        "text": "提出規劃報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/203.wav",
        "text": "也要拜託教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/204.wav",
        "text": "在附帶決議上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/205.wav",
        "text": "更積極地有所作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/206.wav",
        "text": "協助現場的老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/207.wav",
        "text": "孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/208.wav",
        "text": "還有家長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/209.wav",
        "text": "一起去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/210.wav",
        "text": "我們孩子們面臨的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/211.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/212.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/213.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/214.wav",
        "text": "不過我提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/215.wav",
        "text": "我這邊有看到范雲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/216.wav",
        "text": "對這件事情的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/217.wav",
        "text": "我沒看到培瑜委員的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/218.wav",
        "text": "你這邊沒有特別提出這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/219.wav",
        "text": "所以你那個附帶決議是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/220.wav",
        "text": "教育部有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/221.wav",
        "text": "重新印發的是范雲委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/222.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/223.wav",
        "text": "是不是也給我們所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/224.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是請月琴委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/225.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/226.wav",
        "text": "不過我跟范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/227.wav",
        "text": "培瑜委員一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/228.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/229.wav",
        "text": "一定要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/230.wav",
        "text": "因為死因回溯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/231.wav",
        "text": "我的版本也出去要調修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/232.wav",
        "text": "可是死因回溯有做不代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/233.wav",
        "text": "因為國外的歷史資料裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/234.wav",
        "text": "他們都會再強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/235.wav",
        "text": "是要做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/236.wav",
        "text": "我覺得教育部應該要正視這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/237.wav",
        "text": "因為我們15歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/238.wav",
        "text": "的甚至10歲就已經自殺的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/239.wav",
        "text": "已經躍升到第三名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/240.wav",
        "text": "至於要每一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/241.wav",
        "text": "他們大概是4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/242.wav",
        "text": "會去做這樣一個回溯性的調查研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/243.wav",
        "text": "如果臺灣要更精進會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/244.wav",
        "text": "可是不可能是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/245.wav",
        "text": "這法條拿掉之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/246.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何的積極作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/247.wav",
        "text": "我也同意在附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/248.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/249.wav",
        "text": "親愛的同事們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/250.wav",
        "text": "都很好可以發表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/251.wav",
        "text": "但是我們的重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/252.wav",
        "text": "是在第4條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/253.wav",
        "text": "如果大家已經有溝通了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/254.wav",
        "text": "趕快簡短發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/255.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/256.wav",
        "text": "\n請雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/257.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/258.wav",
        "text": "因為其實我原本也是有提版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/259.wav",
        "text": "就是希望可以針對這個不利處境的地方做研究跟探討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/260.wav",
        "text": "基本上我是認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/261.wav",
        "text": "現在先不把它放到法條文字裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/262.wav",
        "text": "我的想法是跟范雲委員一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/263.wav",
        "text": "就是我們用社會學的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/264.wav",
        "text": "做一個系統性的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/265.wav",
        "text": "這部分還是非常需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/266.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/267.wav",
        "text": "好感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/268.wav",
        "text": "教育部可不可以幫我們做個綜合回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/269.wav",
        "text": "有關於范雲委員還有其他委員所提出來的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/270.wav",
        "text": "好我們對這個議題同樣很關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/271.wav",
        "text": "從源頭去改變環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/272.wav",
        "text": "改變系統性的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/273.wav",
        "text": "後面會委託學術團體來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/274.wav",
        "text": "跟大家連署的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/275.wav",
        "text": "這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/276.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/277.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/278.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/279.wav",
        "text": "我們目前作成的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/280.wav",
        "text": "就是第7條之1是不入法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/281.wav",
        "text": "根據剛剛委員所提出的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/282.wav",
        "text": "原則上就會遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/283.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/284.wav",
        "text": "感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/285.wav",
        "text": "接下來是第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/286.wav",
        "text": "終於又進步了一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/287.wav",
        "text": "很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/288.wav",
        "text": "第10條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/289.wav",
        "text": "是不是先請教育部做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/290.wav",
        "text": "我們上次討論完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/291.wav",
        "text": "你們也回去做了一些修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/292.wav",
        "text": "我們大家一起看一下這個大本的第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/293.wav",
        "text": "應該是第25頁開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/294.wav",
        "text": "教育部是不是先統一做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/295.wav",
        "text": "根據教育部的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/296.wav",
        "text": "大家再看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/297.wav",
        "text": "這條也是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/298.wav",
        "text": "第10條是有關於高中以下學校的專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/299.wav",
        "text": "先前教育部的版本第10條是不修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/300.wav",
        "text": "不過後來行政院院會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/301.wav",
        "text": "因應目前中小學學生的問題日益複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/302.wav",
        "text": "人力確實有所不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/303.wav",
        "text": "所以行政院主動協調教育部以及人總主總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/304.wav",
        "text": "還是提了第10條的修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/305.wav",
        "text": "院版已經在7月4日通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/306.wav",
        "text": "通過的版本主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/307.wav",
        "text": "是國小原本是24班以下設一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/308.wav",
        "text": "現在只要20班就設一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/309.wav",
        "text": "本來是24為一個級距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/310.wav",
        "text": "縮短成20為一個級距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/311.wav",
        "text": "所以人力會因為這樣就增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/312.wav",
        "text": "增加的人數我們有統計過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/313.wav",
        "text": "國小會增加313個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/314.wav",
        "text": "經費會增加二億500多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/315.wav",
        "text": "國中的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/316.wav",
        "text": "現在也縮小了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/317.wav",
        "text": "12班以下就會設一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/318.wav",
        "text": "所以每12班設一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/319.wav",
        "text": "國中的部分會增加290人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/320.wav",
        "text": "也是需要增加二億300多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/321.wav",
        "text": "應該會對整個學校現場有很大的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/322.wav",
        "text": "高中的部分沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/323.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/324.wav",
        "text": "懇請委員支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/325.wav",
        "text": "因為這部分是行政院主動提出來希望增加的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/326.wav",
        "text": "過去我們在國小輔導老師的培育上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/327.wav",
        "text": "速度比較慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/328.wav",
        "text": "需要比較慢到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/329.wav",
        "text": "可是行政院覺得這次修法是很難得的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/330.wav",
        "text": "希望利用這個機會來做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/331.wav",
        "text": "大家會有一些意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/332.wav",
        "text": "不過你可以看一下這邊有一個爭議點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/333.wav",
        "text": "就是專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/334.wav",
        "text": "去擔任主任或組長的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/335.wav",
        "text": "目前為止現場也有非常多擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/336.wav",
        "text": "任行政職的老師的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/337.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來還有誰有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/338.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員跟陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/339.wav",
        "text": "好大家來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/340.wav",
        "text": "第一個是人數的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/341.wav",
        "text": "我原本的版本是國小18班以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/342.wav",
        "text": "教育部現在的版本是國小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/343.wav",
        "text": "國中12班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/344.wav",
        "text": "高中的話我的部分是12班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/345.wav",
        "text": "這邊也比較相近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/346.wav",
        "text": "但是這個部分我想已經協商了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/347.wav",
        "text": "這部分我就不再堅持\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/348.wav",
        "text": "\n另外一個就是剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/349.wav",
        "text": "召委講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/350.wav",
        "text": "兼任行政時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/351.wav",
        "text": "應補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/352.wav",
        "text": "應聘員額的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/353.wav",
        "text": "這部分其實也是滿多人跟我陳情跟反映的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/354.wav",
        "text": "主要的上次我們都有講過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/355.wav",
        "text": "其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/356.wav",
        "text": "在高中的輔導主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/357.wav",
        "text": "一定是主任輔導教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/358.wav",
        "text": "而且他會吃掉12班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/359.wav",
        "text": "一人的這個負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/360.wav",
        "text": "可是教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/361.wav",
        "text": "你們種種的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/362.wav",
        "text": "我當然還是希望能夠爭取是不是還有空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/363.wav",
        "text": "我們之前能努力的都努力了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/364.wav",
        "text": "如果不行的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/365.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/366.wav",
        "text": "我的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/367.wav",
        "text": "我的附帶決議裡面主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/368.wav",
        "text": "希望教育部要妥善研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/369.wav",
        "text": "並監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/370.wav",
        "text": "地方確實執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/371.wav",
        "text": "要確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/372.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心的專輔人員協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/373.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道你們這邊希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/374.wav",
        "text": "人力能夠從輔諮中心這邊來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/375.wav",
        "text": "那如何避免他過度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/376.wav",
        "text": "擴張協助工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/377.wav",
        "text": "也能夠配合學輔法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/378.wav",
        "text": "我們通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/379.wav",
        "text": "提升輔諮中心的人力跟待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/380.wav",
        "text": "的部分增加他的實聘率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/381.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/382.wav",
        "text": "就是聘用上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/383.wav",
        "text": "通過這個替代方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/384.wav",
        "text": "希望還是由專輔人員協助教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/385.wav",
        "text": "擔任輔導主管時留下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/386.wav",
        "text": "介入性輔導工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/387.wav",
        "text": "這是你們教育部提的解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/388.wav",
        "text": "可是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/389.wav",
        "text": "不會過度擴張他的協助工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/390.wav",
        "text": "這部分教育部要研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/391.wav",
        "text": "怎麼監督地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/392.wav",
        "text": "確實執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/393.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/394.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/395.wav",
        "text": "你是今天才新提一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/396.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/397.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/398.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員剛剛提出一個新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/399.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/400.wav",
        "text": "你就根據這個提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/401.wav",
        "text": "今天新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/402.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員今天所提出來的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/403.wav",
        "text": "有釘成一本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/404.wav",
        "text": "大家先看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/405.wav",
        "text": "教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/406.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/407.wav",
        "text": "如果你們覺得可行的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/408.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/409.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/410.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/411.wav",
        "text": "第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/412.wav",
        "text": "我拿到的是他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/413.wav",
        "text": "本來有提一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/414.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/415.wav",
        "text": "我就是要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/416.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/417.wav",
        "text": "關於人力培育的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/418.wav",
        "text": "其實剛剛司長自己也不小心講出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/419.wav",
        "text": "就算到了現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/420.wav",
        "text": "但是我必須要先說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/421.wav",
        "text": "感謝行政院主動提及要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/422.wav",
        "text": "一直沒有碰到的第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/423.wav",
        "text": "做修正在這次教育部提出來的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/424.wav",
        "text": "降了國小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/425.wav",
        "text": "國中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/426.wav",
        "text": "\n但是我的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/427.wav",
        "text": "也許教育部可以一併回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/428.wav",
        "text": "在師資培育的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/429.wav",
        "text": "滿足質跟量的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/430.wav",
        "text": "讓教育現場真的有覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/431.wav",
        "text": "獲得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/432.wav",
        "text": "資源跟支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/433.wav",
        "text": "我也想要請你們說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/434.wav",
        "text": "不然如果按照這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/435.wav",
        "text": "你們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/436.wav",
        "text": "遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/437.wav",
        "text": "但實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/438.wav",
        "text": "你們會遇到的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/439.wav",
        "text": "跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/440.wav",
        "text": "目前你們跟師藝司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/441.wav",
        "text": "或是跟相關大學科系的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/442.wav",
        "text": "狀況又是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/443.wav",
        "text": "我們如何能夠確保那個質跟量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/444.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/445.wav",
        "text": "這個我就忍不住要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/446.wav",
        "text": "我自己在師資培育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/447.wav",
        "text": "他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/448.wav",
        "text": "但如果他要拿到輔導的證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/449.wav",
        "text": "現在連培育的機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/450.wav",
        "text": "可能都出了問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/451.wav",
        "text": "以前還有非常多學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/452.wav",
        "text": "還是國北師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/453.wav",
        "text": "其實很多學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/454.wav",
        "text": "像高雄有很多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/455.wav",
        "text": "他在高雄都找不到修輔導學分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/456.wav",
        "text": "你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/457.wav",
        "text": "所以說這個人力上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/458.wav",
        "text": "跟你們所想的理想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/459.wav",
        "text": "事實上還是有一段的落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/460.wav",
        "text": "像我之前也是提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/461.wav",
        "text": "要把它降到15班以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/462.wav",
        "text": "比現行的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/463.wav",
        "text": "大概多增加了100多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/464.wav",
        "text": "八億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/465.wav",
        "text": "但也是同樣面臨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/466.wav",
        "text": "可能找不到這麼多師資的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/467.wav",
        "text": "所以其實很多的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/468.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止都有一點妥協"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/469.wav",
        "text": "原因是因為考慮到實質的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/470.wav",
        "text": "所以分別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/471.wav",
        "text": "透過附帶決議的方法來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/472.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛培瑜委員所提出的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/473.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有辦法考慮到師資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/474.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/475.wav",
        "text": "加一條是用逐年的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/476.wav",
        "text": "還是用什麼方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/477.wav",
        "text": "可以來完成這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/478.wav",
        "text": "因為我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/479.wav",
        "text": "這個學生輔導法今年修過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/480.wav",
        "text": "再修已經又是三五年後的事情了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/481.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/482.wav",
        "text": "不管是在條文法規上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/483.wav",
        "text": "或在附帶決議上可以一次到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/484.wav",
        "text": "教育部對於這兩位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/485.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/486.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/487.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/488.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/489.wav",
        "text": "另外陳培瑜委員的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/490.wav",
        "text": "是不是請吳司長補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/491.wav",
        "text": "依照師資培育機構每年固定的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/492.wav",
        "text": "原本規劃國小是到120年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/493.wav",
        "text": "全部到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/494.wav",
        "text": "國中是114年全部到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/495.wav",
        "text": "國小的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/496.wav",
        "text": "我們部裡頭有研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/497.wav",
        "text": "因為要增加學校的輔導人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/498.wav",
        "text": "所以曾經研議討論要提早到116年到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/499.wav",
        "text": "那是現行法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/500.wav",
        "text": "喔現在因為這次調整之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/501.wav",
        "text": "國小國中都分別加碼了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/502.wav",
        "text": "國中可能不是太大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/503.wav",
        "text": "但國小這一塊加碼之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/504.wav",
        "text": "剛剛提到要增加三百零多個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/505.wav",
        "text": "本來缺口是2,088"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/506.wav",
        "text": "再加三百零多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/507.wav",
        "text": "這一塊是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/508.wav",
        "text": "請師教師教司這邊也跟主席和委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/509.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝委員都很關注我們對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/510.wav",
        "text": "專輔老師的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/511.wav",
        "text": "已經可以加入培育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/512.wav",
        "text": "偏遠跟特殊地區的專輔老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/513.wav",
        "text": "我們也要求師資培育大學的相關培育系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/514.wav",
        "text": "所要外加師資生的名額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/515.wav",
        "text": "我們也持續的在開設在職老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/516.wav",
        "text": "加註專長學分班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/517.wav",
        "text": "雖然這幾個模式都投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/518.wav",
        "text": "署的部分也一起來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/519.wav",
        "text": "大概還有七百零多名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/520.wav",
        "text": "現職老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/521.wav",
        "text": "其實已經有取得加註專長證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/522.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有實質去擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/523.wav",
        "text": "那署這邊也一起來做努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/524.wav",
        "text": "研擬一些措施吸引他們來擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/525.wav",
        "text": "我們還會持續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/526.wav",
        "text": "依需求來協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/527.wav",
        "text": "師培大學開設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/528.wav",
        "text": "國小專任輔導的學士後學分班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/529.wav",
        "text": "雖然這幾種多元模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/530.wav",
        "text": "都投入進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/531.wav",
        "text": "但是因為增量的培育大概要三到四年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/532.wav",
        "text": "這個量才會比較穩定大幅的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/533.wav",
        "text": "\n所以在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/534.wav",
        "text": "要跟培瑜委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/535.wav",
        "text": "就是我們原本的附帶決議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/536.wav",
        "text": "116年提前聘足的這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/537.wav",
        "text": "也就是教育部原先預定於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/538.wav",
        "text": "民國120年到116年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/539.wav",
        "text": "提前聘足的這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/540.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以協助我們刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/541.wav",
        "text": "我們會穩定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/542.wav",
        "text": "用多元培育的方式把它補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/543.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/544.wav",
        "text": "所以你是告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/545.wav",
        "text": "120年跟116年這樣的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/546.wav",
        "text": "這個年限不要把它匡在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/547.wav",
        "text": "需要有更多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/548.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議可1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/549.wav",
        "text": "院版的數字完全達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/550.wav",
        "text": "是會突增"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/551.wav",
        "text": "姑且不論聘不聘得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/552.wav",
        "text": "到時候這些人一次退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/553.wav",
        "text": "其實對教學現場也是不穩定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/554.wav",
        "text": "其實我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/555.wav",
        "text": "以我對教學現場的了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/556.wav",
        "text": "根本非常的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/557.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/558.wav",
        "text": "光是大學裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/559.wav",
        "text": "要來念師資培育班的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/560.wav",
        "text": "就已經完全不足了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/561.wav",
        "text": "我自己當過師培的老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/562.wav",
        "text": "我太清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/563.wav",
        "text": "現在太少誘因了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/564.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/565.wav",
        "text": "額外還要再去修這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/566.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這是一個非常大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/567.wav",
        "text": "我覺得你反而要在源頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/568.wav",
        "text": "否則以這樣子的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/569.wav",
        "text": "我們即使幫大家爭取老半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/570.wav",
        "text": "真的是來不及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/571.wav",
        "text": "可以有這麼多師資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/572.wav",
        "text": "培瑜老師你覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/573.wav",
        "text": "我每次都被叫培瑜老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/574.wav",
        "text": "好培瑜老師說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/575.wav",
        "text": "我先說我們這個附帶決議的寫法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/576.wav",
        "text": "如果您還記得的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/577.wav",
        "text": "其實是因為之前第10條沒有修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/578.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們只是把教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/579.wav",
        "text": "一剛開始自己所宣稱的寫法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/580.wav",
        "text": "放上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/581.wav",
        "text": "所以你現在要我拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/582.wav",
        "text": "是有困難的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/583.wav",
        "text": "所以我原則上可以拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/584.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/585.wav",
        "text": "因為原本第10條沒有修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/586.wav",
        "text": "\n但是如同剛剛您所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/587.wav",
        "text": "一個是學士後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/588.wav",
        "text": "還有現在已經加註第二專長的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/589.wav",
        "text": "願不願意投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/590.wav",
        "text": "真的去做專輔工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/591.wav",
        "text": "再加上你們還有公費生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/592.wav",
        "text": "去特偏跟偏遠的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/593.wav",
        "text": "我覺得聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/594.wav",
        "text": "我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/595.wav",
        "text": "\n如果現在問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/596.wav",
        "text": "你不一定會有數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/597.wav",
        "text": "但是我們都知道的困境是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/598.wav",
        "text": "公費生逃離現場的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/599.wav",
        "text": "應該不低於三分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/600.wav",
        "text": "但如果你現在要在輔導的方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/601.wav",
        "text": "還要加開公費生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/602.wav",
        "text": "還要把他派去偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/603.wav",
        "text": "然後他又要做的是專輔工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/604.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有額外的配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/605.wav",
        "text": "很難留住學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/606.wav",
        "text": "現場的老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/607.wav",
        "text": "遠離了自己的原生家庭故鄉的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/608.wav",
        "text": "到了一個生活機能不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/609.wav",
        "text": "人生地不熟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/610.wav",
        "text": "的地方而且他面臨的是最困難的專輔工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/611.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/612.wav",
        "text": "你要我拿兩條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/613.wav",
        "text": "那我再加一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/614.wav",
        "text": "就是後續所有的配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/615.wav",
        "text": "請一併考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/616.wav",
        "text": "否則就會如同主席說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/617.wav",
        "text": "我們想像的所有配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/618.wav",
        "text": "其實都不會出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/619.wav",
        "text": "我所知道的實務困境是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/620.wav",
        "text": "公費生逃離現場的比例真的很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/621.wav",
        "text": "我們一起務實來面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/622.wav",
        "text": "這幾年開缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/623.wav",
        "text": "一般地區開缺也多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/624.wav",
        "text": "我們也多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/625.wav",
        "text": "但是跑的也多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/626.wav",
        "text": "啦那我們可不可以一併來修附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/627.wav",
        "text": "我等一下跟你們部裡面同仁溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/628.wav",
        "text": "然後我們再來對這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/629.wav",
        "text": "我可以同意刪掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/630.wav",
        "text": "但是我可能也會加一些後續的配套要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/631.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/632.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/633.wav",
        "text": "部分教育部建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/634.wav",
        "text": "刪掉120年116"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/635.wav",
        "text": "年然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/636.wav",
        "text": "把一個月變成三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/637.wav",
        "text": "瑜委員還有一些想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/638.wav",
        "text": "所以這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/639.wav",
        "text": "請陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/640.wav",
        "text": "先來看看第10條的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/641.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/642.wav",
        "text": "很顯然大家都是用附帶決議的方法來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/643.wav",
        "text": "第10條的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/644.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/645.wav",
        "text": "紅字的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/646.wav",
        "text": "我要唸一次是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/647.wav",
        "text": "各位看清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/648.wav",
        "text": "不要再回來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/649.wav",
        "text": "\n第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/650.wav",
        "text": "高級中等以下學校專任輔導教師員額編制如下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/651.wav",
        "text": "一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/652.wav",
        "text": "國民小學二十班以下者置一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/653.wav",
        "text": "二十一班以上者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/654.wav",
        "text": "每二十班增置一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/655.wav",
        "text": "二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/656.wav",
        "text": "十三班以上者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/657.wav",
        "text": "學校屬跨學制者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/658.wav",
        "text": "其專任輔導教師之員額編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/659.wav",
        "text": "應依各學制規定分別設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/660.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/661.wav",
        "text": "條文很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/662.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/663.wav",
        "text": "行政院版的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/664.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/665.wav",
        "text": "大家沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/666.wav",
        "text": "那我們第10條條文就這樣子通過好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/667.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/668.wav",
        "text": "然後附帶決議就麻煩培瑜委員跟教育部再來做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/669.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員第10條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/670.wav",
        "text": "教育部看過了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/671.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/672.wav",
        "text": "可以我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/673.wav",
        "text": "補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/674.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/675.wav",
        "text": "針對前開狀況之具體方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/676.wav",
        "text": "以協助學校介入性輔導工作之推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/677.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/678.wav",
        "text": "遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/679.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/680.wav",
        "text": "部長說遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/681.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/682.wav",
        "text": "我們看第十一條也非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/683.wav",
        "text": "各位我們先翻到第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/684.wav",
        "text": "因為上次我們委員討論的非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/685.wav",
        "text": "教育部要不要針對你們所做的修正先報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/686.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/687.wav",
        "text": "第十一條主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/688.wav",
        "text": "高級中等以下學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/689.wav",
        "text": "及學校主管機關設置專業輔導人員的設置基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/690.wav",
        "text": "學校的部分是可以設專業輔導人員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/691.wav",
        "text": "但必須是達到班級數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/692.wav",
        "text": "55班以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/693.wav",
        "text": "就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/694.wav",
        "text": "至少設一個專任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/695.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/696.wav",
        "text": "這一塊在目前實務運作上發現當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/697.wav",
        "text": "鄰近學校如果有需要協助的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/698.wav",
        "text": "地方的輔諮中心可能會調派他去支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/699.wav",
        "text": "他可能會以自己學校的事情很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/700.wav",
        "text": "原來的學校可能也不願意他去支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/701.wav",
        "text": "第三項有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/702.wav",
        "text": "主管機關可以就事實需要來統籌調派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/703.wav",
        "text": "但實務運作上很困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/704.wav",
        "text": "\n所以這次的修正就是修改這個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/705.wav",
        "text": "把55班以上設專輔人員的條文文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/706.wav",
        "text": "將來學校就只剩下專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/707.wav",
        "text": "至於專業輔導人員就統籌設在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/708.wav",
        "text": "主管機關的學生輔導諮商中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/709.wav",
        "text": "就是不一定設在主管機關的內部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/710.wav",
        "text": "他也可以設在學校裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/711.wav",
        "text": "或者委由所設學生輔諮中心所在學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/712.wav",
        "text": "或擇定之學校聘用之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/713.wav",
        "text": "所以對於學生人數規模比較大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/714.wav",
        "text": "這些專輔人員主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/715.wav",
        "text": "還是可以把他派在學校裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/716.wav",
        "text": "就近這個學校跟鄰近學校的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/717.wav",
        "text": "這是一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/718.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個重點就是人要加碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/719.wav",
        "text": "就是除了原本20校設1人這個規定維持以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/720.wav",
        "text": "我們增加兩個規定可以來增加人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/721.wav",
        "text": "第一個是根據學生的總人數來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/722.wav",
        "text": "每4,000到5,000人我們會再增加一位專輔老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/723.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就會依校數每20校設1人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/724.wav",
        "text": "這樣的部分我們就得到一個加總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/725.wav",
        "text": "然後我們依照這個加總的專輔人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/726.wav",
        "text": "再配置6%可以由中央主管機關來統籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/727.wav",
        "text": "依照各縣市學校的輔導案量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/728.wav",
        "text": "地區區域等特殊情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/729.wav",
        "text": "會在這6%去增加配置人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/730.wav",
        "text": "增加4,500到5,000人這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/731.wav",
        "text": "所以實際上會增加的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/732.wav",
        "text": "如果依照5,000人設1人加6%就是136"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/733.wav",
        "text": "如果依照4,500設1人加6%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/734.wav",
        "text": "所需要的經費大概都在一億六到一億一左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/735.wav",
        "text": "增加的人數其實已經比現行的基準增加30%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/736.wav",
        "text": "所以已經有增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/737.wav",
        "text": "我們希望大家可以支持這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/738.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/739.wav",
        "text": "我可不可以先問一下你這個6%到底是根據什麼來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/740.wav",
        "text": "的你到底把資訊放在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/741.wav",
        "text": "你的工作地點你的任務到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/742.wav",
        "text": "6%很含糊耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/743.wav",
        "text": "你要把它放哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/744.wav",
        "text": "他的任務又是做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/745.wav",
        "text": "等一下我需要被回應的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/746.wav",
        "text": "\n還有一個就是4,000到5,000的range很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/747.wav",
        "text": "你的基準點是從哪裡來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/748.wav",
        "text": "0耶\n你難道就不能匡定4,000或多少嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/749.wav",
        "text": "最主要是你的基數到底從哪裡來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/750.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這部分還是需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/751.wav",
        "text": "不然你的range那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/752.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其他委員有意見可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/753.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/754.wav",
        "text": "\n還有15校的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/755.wav",
        "text": "對不起我特別要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/756.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛算了老半天我剛剛也算了老半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/757.wav",
        "text": "我當初寫15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/758.wav",
        "text": "那是因為像我們高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/759.wav",
        "text": "幅員這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/760.wav",
        "text": "交通這麼不方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/761.wav",
        "text": "而且我剛剛算過了現在是20校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/762.wav",
        "text": "真的比原本的20校只多出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/763.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以考量到一些幅員比較廣大的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/764.wav",
        "text": "你從20校改為15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/765.wav",
        "text": "其實就是258"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/766.wav",
        "text": "你這樣都不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/767.wav",
        "text": "這個是CP值最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/768.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/769.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/770.wav",
        "text": "因為上次其實我有特別提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/771.wav",
        "text": "就是偏鄉的部分如果這個額外6%的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/772.wav",
        "text": "還是地理的區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/773.wav",
        "text": "整體的配套是不是應該要有一個比較具體明確的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/774.wav",
        "text": "因為你如果沒有一個具體的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/775.wav",
        "text": "其實真的光是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/776.wav",
        "text": "一些不公平案量的分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/777.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/778.wav",
        "text": "好沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/779.wav",
        "text": "\n我剛剛忘了我們的部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/780.wav",
        "text": "你以前是從局長出來的對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/781.wav",
        "text": "我們高雄的教育局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/782.wav",
        "text": "部長你是不是也可以根據你過去的親身經驗來發表一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/783.wav",
        "text": "真的是幅員那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/784.wav",
        "text": "光是舟車勞頓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/785.wav",
        "text": "別人可以跑5個學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/786.wav",
        "text": "他光是跑2個學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/787.wav",
        "text": "就已經一整天過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/788.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個還是有區域的差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/789.wav",
        "text": "我們的鄭局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/790.wav",
        "text": "我想各縣市的地理環境確實是有差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/791.wav",
        "text": "屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/792.wav",
        "text": "大概也都有同樣的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/793.wav",
        "text": "我利用這個機會感謝我們主席還有所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/794.wav",
        "text": "培育同時希望考慮他的服務品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/795.wav",
        "text": "所以有很多的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/796.wav",
        "text": "我想部裡跟委員的方向與理想性都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/797.wav",
        "text": "逐步的去達到我們所設定的理想目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/798.wav",
        "text": "我想那個方向我們不會打折扣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/799.wav",
        "text": "一個是來自於經費的投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/800.wav",
        "text": "再考慮到區域上的一些差異性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/801.wav",
        "text": "我們大概估計了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/802.wav",
        "text": "我們現場在師資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/803.wav",
        "text": "區域跟所有人力上的一些需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/804.wav",
        "text": "我們中央主管機關介於4,500到5,000的基數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/805.wav",
        "text": "我們確實是期待有一個range"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/806.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們不直接就4,500就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/807.wav",
        "text": "部長我們還是用一個range"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/808.wav",
        "text": "不然4,499差一個人怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/809.wav",
        "text": "一個態度就是希"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/810.wav",
        "text": "我們希望他是留在各地方縣市政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/811.wav",
        "text": "能夠配合各縣市因應地方而能夠有一些調配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/812.wav",
        "text": "譬如說有一些偏鄉的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/813.wav",
        "text": "有一些規模比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/814.wav",
        "text": "就可以直接由地方去統籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/815.wav",
        "text": "來做一些適度的調配跟支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/816.wav",
        "text": "我想以上大概做這樣的補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/817.wav",
        "text": "\n所有的想法誠如委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/818.wav",
        "text": "確實有差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/819.wav",
        "text": "而這些差異我們如果訂一個單一辦法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/820.wav",
        "text": "所以啊我說你的基數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/821.wav",
        "text": "要是穩定設在4,500以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/822.wav",
        "text": "這也是一個彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/823.wav",
        "text": "啊為什麼要4,500到5,000呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/824.wav",
        "text": "4,500以下也是一個非常穩定的基數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/825.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛只是說4,500到5,000的範圍太大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/826.wav",
        "text": "你說一定要保持一個彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/827.wav",
        "text": "我覺得你的彈性放在4,500以下把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/828.wav",
        "text": "4,500當作是一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/829.wav",
        "text": "或者說我們用4,500為原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/830.wav",
        "text": "這個當然都對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/831.wav",
        "text": "類似的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/832.wav",
        "text": "而且我說實在我還是要提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/833.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/834.wav",
        "text": "都不包含偏鄉條例額外設置的212位專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/835.wav",
        "text": "司長還有次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/836.wav",
        "text": "我要百分之百確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/837.wav",
        "text": "都完全是不包含偏鄉條例裡面給我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/838.wav",
        "text": "這要百分之百確定就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/839.wav",
        "text": "雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/840.wav",
        "text": "跟司長請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/841.wav",
        "text": "因為這個4,500到5,000是一個非常大的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/842.wav",
        "text": "到底各縣市政府他們如何決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/843.wav",
        "text": "要用哪一個數字去計算呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/844.wav",
        "text": "因為那個實際的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/845.wav",
        "text": "跟校數及基數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/846.wav",
        "text": "我想要請司長幫我確定一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/847.wav",
        "text": "我現在的算法是不是對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/848.wav",
        "text": "如果我們用校數15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/849.wav",
        "text": "基數4,500跟6%的彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/850.wav",
        "text": "我認為有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/851.wav",
        "text": "我們其實是有機會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/852.wav",
        "text": "當然還要跟行政院討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/853.wav",
        "text": "因為這個部分是由中央支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/854.wav",
        "text": "對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/855.wav",
        "text": "部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/856.wav",
        "text": "地方要自籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/857.wav",
        "text": "地方自籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/858.wav",
        "text": "但是比例是比較低嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/859.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/860.wav",
        "text": "請行政院考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/861.wav",
        "text": "如果我們降低校數到15個學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/862.wav",
        "text": "大概就會是258個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/863.wav",
        "text": "比你們教育部現在的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/864.wav",
        "text": "增加了58個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/865.wav",
        "text": "我的算法到目前為止是對的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/866.wav",
        "text": "我們算過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/867.wav",
        "text": "再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/868.wav",
        "text": "基數穩定的這個困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/869.wav",
        "text": "我想要先幫偏鄉喊話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/870.wav",
        "text": "其實在教育部統計的偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/871.wav",
        "text": "宜蘭新北臺中高雄都有偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/872.wav",
        "text": "我當然知道經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/873.wav",
        "text": "需要商量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/874.wav",
        "text": "需要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/875.wav",
        "text": "需要計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/876.wav",
        "text": "但是我想要講一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/877.wav",
        "text": "實務上的困境是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/878.wav",
        "text": "以我們熟悉的花蓮為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/879.wav",
        "text": "從花蓮市區出發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/880.wav",
        "text": "假設開到吉安鄉都算近的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/881.wav",
        "text": "再往南一點到壽豐鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/882.wav",
        "text": "大概還可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/883.wav",
        "text": "再往南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/884.wav",
        "text": "壽豐往南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/885.wav",
        "text": "一個個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/886.wav",
        "text": "然後你再回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/887.wav",
        "text": "再往上也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/888.wav",
        "text": "再往下也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/889.wav",
        "text": "這樣來回大概是兩三個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/890.wav",
        "text": "如果這個專輔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/891.wav",
        "text": "他所做的事情是一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/892.wav",
        "text": "在不同的鄉之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/893.wav",
        "text": "接兩個個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/894.wav",
        "text": "他可能交通時間就是4到6個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/895.wav",
        "text": "這還是在他有開車的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/896.wav",
        "text": "當然大家都會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/897.wav",
        "text": "在偏鄉怎麼會不開車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/898.wav",
        "text": "但有時候你就不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/899.wav",
        "text": "他為什麼就是沒有開車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/900.wav",
        "text": "可能是他剛好那天身體不舒服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/901.wav",
        "text": "沒有開車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/902.wav",
        "text": "或是他剛好車壞掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/903.wav",
        "text": "種種的原因他就是沒有開車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/904.wav",
        "text": "那我們還是可以期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/905.wav",
        "text": "有所謂的客運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/906.wav",
        "text": "記得喔到偏鄉叫做客運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/907.wav",
        "text": "不叫公車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/908.wav",
        "text": "這個情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/909.wav",
        "text": "就是一個小時一班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/910.wav",
        "text": "\n所以部長您來自高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/911.wav",
        "text": "高雄的偏鄉也很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/912.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛只是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/913.wav",
        "text": "我最熟悉的花蓮來舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/914.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道這是行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/915.wav",
        "text": "很大的財務上的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/916.wav",
        "text": "當然地方也要有所承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/917.wav",
        "text": "可是在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/918.wav",
        "text": "我們還是很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/919.wav",
        "text": "不只是幫偏鄉的老師爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/920.wav",
        "text": "其實也是在幫偏鄉的孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/921.wav",
        "text": "跟家長爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/922.wav",
        "text": "因為偏鄉這幾年的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/923.wav",
        "text": "其實相對複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/924.wav",
        "text": "尤其是非常多數位時代的小孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/925.wav",
        "text": "他們其實是被3C養大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/926.wav",
        "text": "那他們所遇到的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/927.wav",
        "text": "我不會說全部都是家長的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/928.wav",
        "text": "我之前在質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/929.wav",
        "text": "也跟部長討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/930.wav",
        "text": "家庭教育的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/931.wav",
        "text": "所以有機會的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/932.wav",
        "text": "我想我還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/933.wav",
        "text": "可以在15班的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/934.wav",
        "text": "或是基數固定在4,500人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/935.wav",
        "text": "然後4,500人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/936.wav",
        "text": "然後額外的6%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/937.wav",
        "text": "當然還是要感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/938.wav",
        "text": "你們原本所保留的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/939.wav",
        "text": "偏鄉條例額外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/940.wav",
        "text": "有212人這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/941.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/942.wav",
        "text": "我們的行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/943.wav",
        "text": "應該會更完整的照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/944.wav",
        "text": "每一個鄉鎮市的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/945.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/946.wav",
        "text": "好部長剛剛舉手說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/947.wav",
        "text": "他要先回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/948.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/949.wav",
        "text": "其實這也就是我們剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/950.wav",
        "text": "在提怎麼樣讓地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/951.wav",
        "text": "因為就我們現在所知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/952.wav",
        "text": "地方裡面的學生諮輔中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/953.wav",
        "text": "不會就只有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/954.wav",
        "text": "各個縣市會針對它的地形環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/955.wav",
        "text": "它可能會有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/956.wav",
        "text": "比如說都會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/957.wav",
        "text": "就是北中南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/958.wav",
        "text": "或者東西南北各設一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/959.wav",
        "text": "有一些狹長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/960.wav",
        "text": "不會說讓一個人從北跑到南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/961.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們所期待的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/962.wav",
        "text": "等於說地方不能完全逃避責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/963.wav",
        "text": "我們希望學生的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/964.wav",
        "text": "學生的心理支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/965.wav",
        "text": "是透過中央的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/966.wav",
        "text": "中央的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/967.wav",
        "text": "結合地方的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/968.wav",
        "text": "我們能夠讓新世代這些年輕人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/969.wav",
        "text": "這些學生有一個更好的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/970.wav",
        "text": "那我們看到目前地方的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/971.wav",
        "text": "其實我還滿佩服的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/972.wav",
        "text": "我也利用這個機會跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/973.wav",
        "text": "在二十幾年前這個諮商輔導中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/974.wav",
        "text": "真的就是在我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/975.wav",
        "text": "借調當高雄市教育局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/976.wav",
        "text": "時我就任務編組成立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/977.wav",
        "text": "那時候確實是只有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/978.wav",
        "text": "可是當我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/979.wav",
        "text": "縣市在合併的過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/980.wav",
        "text": "我們大都會越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/981.wav",
        "text": "然後數量多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/982.wav",
        "text": "然後原來這些比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/983.wav",
        "text": "剛才特別提到花蓮臺東屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/984.wav",
        "text": "等等現在各縣市已經不會只設一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/985.wav",
        "text": "它有一個組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/986.wav",
        "text": "但是它有一個分辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/987.wav",
        "text": "在不同的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/988.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這就是我們所期待的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/989.wav",
        "text": "它能夠就近去關照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/990.wav",
        "text": "我們目前看到地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/991.wav",
        "text": "其實他們在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/992.wav",
        "text": "服務的品質更到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/993.wav",
        "text": "\n來范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/994.wav",
        "text": "就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/995.wav",
        "text": "高中以下學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/996.wav",
        "text": "達40班以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/997.wav",
        "text": "至少就要專任輔導人員一名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/998.wav",
        "text": "實際需要置兼任輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/999.wav",
        "text": "若干人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1000.wav",
        "text": "人再來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1001.wav",
        "text": "主管機關這個專業輔導人員就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1002.wav",
        "text": "就是15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1003.wav",
        "text": "刪除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1004.wav",
        "text": "就並沒有那個40班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1005.wav",
        "text": "其實這就是一個大校條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1006.wav",
        "text": "大校一定要有駐校的專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1007.wav",
        "text": "然後15校那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1008.wav",
        "text": "教育部的版本現在是20校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1009.wav",
        "text": "基數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1010.wav",
        "text": "所以我想大家的擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1011.wav",
        "text": "剛剛都已經討論了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1012.wav",
        "text": "中間也跟教育部討論了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1013.wav",
        "text": "我當然還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1014.wav",
        "text": "如果我的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1015.wav",
        "text": "能夠通過教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1016.wav",
        "text": "這樣當然很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1017.wav",
        "text": "因為滿多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1018.wav",
        "text": "不管是學校的專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1019.wav",
        "text": "還有專業團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1020.wav",
        "text": "都會強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1021.wav",
        "text": "大校駐校專輔人員非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1022.wav",
        "text": "因為他的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1023.wav",
        "text": "然後他才能更深入了解學校的體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1024.wav",
        "text": "也更能夠深度的服務學生個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1025.wav",
        "text": "也比較能夠促進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1026.wav",
        "text": "校內輔導資源的整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1027.wav",
        "text": "研究也指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1028.wav",
        "text": "的所以我想我還是不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1029.wav",
        "text": "刪除這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1030.wav",
        "text": "但是我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1031.wav",
        "text": "因為今天我們能夠協商的時間也不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1032.wav",
        "text": "如果教育部一定要堅持原來條文的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1033.wav",
        "text": "那我至少希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1034.wav",
        "text": "在你們的說明欄文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1035.wav",
        "text": "等於是讓地方教育局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1036.wav",
        "text": "處的輔導中心去協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1037.wav",
        "text": "嘛可是你要有很明確的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1038.wav",
        "text": "讓大校駐校輔導專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1039.wav",
        "text": "一定要優先能夠有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1040.wav",
        "text": "我這邊準備的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1041.wav",
        "text": "唸給大家聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1042.wav",
        "text": "我是希望能夠在第3項立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1043.wav",
        "text": "至少要增訂主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1044.wav",
        "text": "統籌調派專業輔導人員時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1045.wav",
        "text": "宜優先派駐至大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1046.wav",
        "text": "因為我想大型學校要有專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1047.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望維持這個立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1048.wav",
        "text": "但你們說因為各縣市情況不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1049.wav",
        "text": "你希望能夠讓它有這個彈性在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1050.wav",
        "text": "對於地方局處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1051.wav",
        "text": "我不知道大家的信任度如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1052.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有時候監督也會遇到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1053.wav",
        "text": "央但至少在條文說明裡面的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1054.wav",
        "text": "地方縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1055.wav",
        "text": "或是我們立委未來在監督的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1056.wav",
        "text": "它就不能夠忽略這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1057.wav",
        "text": "這是我的一個堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1058.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1059.wav",
        "text": "等一下司長要回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1060.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1061.wav",
        "text": "您在高雄市教育局當局長的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1062.wav",
        "text": "做了一個很重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1063.wav",
        "text": "我要先謝謝你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1064.wav",
        "text": "你說你在整個大高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1065.wav",
        "text": "有設立分別的據點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1066.wav",
        "text": "就是學輔諮中心這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1067.wav",
        "text": "好一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1068.wav",
        "text": "部長我跟你報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1069.wav",
        "text": "如果我沒有記錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1070.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣好像只有兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1071.wav",
        "text": "這種地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1072.wav",
        "text": "有額外設點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1073.wav",
        "text": "其他我剛剛講的這些都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1074.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是要想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1075.wav",
        "text": "來面對偏鄉的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1076.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1077.wav",
        "text": "要減這個班級數是有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1078.wav",
        "text": "但還是有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1079.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1080.wav",
        "text": "或是說明文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1081.wav",
        "text": "可以讓我們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1082.wav",
        "text": "也許我們有機會逐年去調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1083.wav",
        "text": "但是您剛剛說的那個作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1084.wav",
        "text": "如果以您現在身為部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1085.wav",
        "text": "也許你們可以透過你們身為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1086.wav",
        "text": "這些縣市政府的主管機關的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1087.wav",
        "text": "自己所在的縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1088.wav",
        "text": "他們如何參考您過往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1089.wav",
        "text": "在高雄的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1090.wav",
        "text": "去廣設這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1091.wav",
        "text": "所謂分站也好分點也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1092.wav",
        "text": "然後不要讓工作人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1093.wav",
        "text": "過度的移動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1094.wav",
        "text": "讓需要被服務的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1095.wav",
        "text": "可以用最快的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1096.wav",
        "text": "進用這些資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1097.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1098.wav",
        "text": "幫部長想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1099.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1100.wav",
        "text": "還有剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1101.wav",
        "text": "雅琳委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1102.wav",
        "text": "你的基點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1103.wav",
        "text": "4,500到5,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1104.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1105.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能變4,500以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1106.wav",
        "text": "或者是其他的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1107.wav",
        "text": "我補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1108.wav",
        "text": "這些在協助偏鄉的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1109.wav",
        "text": "其實他們基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1110.wav",
        "text": "都是自己在開車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1111.wav",
        "text": "那我想這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1112.wav",
        "text": "也是非常辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1113.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1114.wav",
        "text": "也是回應剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1115.wav",
        "text": "培瑜委員所說的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1116.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1117.wav",
        "text": "司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1118.wav",
        "text": "首先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1119.wav",
        "text": "第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1120.wav",
        "text": "每20校設一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1121.wav",
        "text": "以及4,500到5,000學生設一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1122.wav",
        "text": "以及再加6%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1123.wav",
        "text": "這個統籌的設算基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1124.wav",
        "text": "以及核定給各地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1125.wav",
        "text": "因為中央可能負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1126.wav",
        "text": "其中最大一塊經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1127.wav",
        "text": "少部分由地方自籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1128.wav",
        "text": "其實那個核定的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1129.wav",
        "text": "是由中央主管機關來核定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1130.wav",
        "text": "還是4,800"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1131.wav",
        "text": "應該是中央主管機關來做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1132.wav",
        "text": "我說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1133.wav",
        "text": "當初為什麼會訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1134.wav",
        "text": "因為它確實考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1135.wav",
        "text": "少子化的變動因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1136.wav",
        "text": "還是不穩定的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1137.wav",
        "text": "就會有要增加人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1138.wav",
        "text": "或者要減少人的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1139.wav",
        "text": "是當時經過仔細推算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1140.wav",
        "text": "覺得可以處理的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1141.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個要說明的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1142.wav",
        "text": "確實是我們現在把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1143.wav",
        "text": "55班以上駐校的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1144.wav",
        "text": "統統收回到地方來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1145.wav",
        "text": "當然如同剛才部長所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1146.wav",
        "text": "其實地方實務運作上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1147.wav",
        "text": "也會考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1148.wav",
        "text": "因為人數多了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1149.wav",
        "text": "其實是要做責任區域劃分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1150.wav",
        "text": "可能只有一個中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1151.wav",
        "text": "但它會分北區南區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1152.wav",
        "text": "會有不同的辦公地點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1153.wav",
        "text": "那個地方就是要就近服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1154.wav",
        "text": "我想將來這個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1155.wav",
        "text": "在統籌分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1156.wav",
        "text": "一定會考慮這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1157.wav",
        "text": "也提到過一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1158.wav",
        "text": "就是對於學生人數比較多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1159.wav",
        "text": "大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1160.wav",
        "text": "將來要派駐的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1161.wav",
        "text": "是不是請主管機關優先派駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1162.wav",
        "text": "對對對柯委員是用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1163.wav",
        "text": "范委員是說用立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1164.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們都可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1165.wav",
        "text": "立法說明可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1166.wav",
        "text": "精神上都是宜優先派駐人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1167.wav",
        "text": "最後談一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1168.wav",
        "text": "很關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1169.wav",
        "text": "到底怎麼做分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1170.wav",
        "text": "先說立法說明裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1171.wav",
        "text": "其實有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1172.wav",
        "text": "我們在立法說明有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1173.wav",
        "text": "或鄰近安置機構等特殊情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1174.wav",
        "text": "這種情況負擔就會比較重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1175.wav",
        "text": "有部分縣市因為地理幅員狹長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1176.wav",
        "text": "或者離島等因素人口分散"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1177.wav",
        "text": "因為很多時間花在交通上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1178.wav",
        "text": "所以這種情況確實要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1179.wav",
        "text": "加配駐人力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1180.wav",
        "text": "郭委員之前的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1181.wav",
        "text": "其實有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1182.wav",
        "text": "請教育部會同各地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1183.wav",
        "text": "研訂依區域學校學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1184.wav",
        "text": "樣態及輔導需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1185.wav",
        "text": "配置並分派專業輔導人的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1186.wav",
        "text": "就是郭委員有附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1187.wav",
        "text": "我們其實是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1188.wav",
        "text": "我們應該是可以遵照辦理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1189.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1190.wav",
        "text": "你還是沒有回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1191.wav",
        "text": "哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1192.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1193.wav",
        "text": "按照部長過往經驗的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1194.wav",
        "text": "部長剛剛的建議很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1195.wav",
        "text": "現在好像只有高雄跟雲林有設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1196.wav",
        "text": "所謂不同工作站的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1197.wav",
        "text": "還有哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1198.wav",
        "text": "南桃園北桃園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1199.wav",
        "text": "假設你們不願意改20到15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1200.wav",
        "text": "我們可不可以再多增加一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1201.wav",
        "text": "因為就像剛剛主席也講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1202.wav",
        "text": "學輔法要再修已經不知道是什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1203.wav",
        "text": "我們增加一個附帶決議好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1204.wav",
        "text": "我們討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1205.wav",
        "text": "就是現在我們都不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1206.wav",
        "text": "到底誰有誰沒有的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1207.wav",
        "text": "或者是盤點各縣市的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1208.wav",
        "text": "當然主管機關有角色去監督地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1209.wav",
        "text": "但地方政府擺爛不做就是不做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1210.wav",
        "text": "我們可不可以有個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1211.wav",
        "text": "要求你們協助地方政府積極的確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1212.wav",
        "text": "每一個地方應該要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1213.wav",
        "text": "依實際需求設分點據點的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1214.wav",
        "text": "強度可以怎麼增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1215.wav",
        "text": "如果20校沒有辦法調15校的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1216.wav",
        "text": "當然我也跟同仁在了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1217.wav",
        "text": "22個縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1218.wav",
        "text": "的輔諮中心到底大概有多少個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1219.wav",
        "text": "不過以我以前服務過的新北市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1220.wav",
        "text": "新北市設了4個區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1221.wav",
        "text": "於我們現行的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1222.wav",
        "text": "就是還沒修法之前的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1223.wav",
        "text": "主管機關的部分是20校以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1224.wav",
        "text": "所以20個學校以上才設1人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1225.wav",
        "text": "基本上設在主管機關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1226.wav",
        "text": "人數本來就是不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1227.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在新法改了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1228.wav",
        "text": "每20個學校再增加1人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1229.wav",
        "text": "再加上剛剛講的4,500到5,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1230.wav",
        "text": "還會增加人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1231.wav",
        "text": "還有6%會增加人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1232.wav",
        "text": "就會在各主管機關裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1233.wav",
        "text": "調整所以第一個人數會增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1234.wav",
        "text": "會有更多的人數它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1235.wav",
        "text": "它可以去做分區的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1236.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1237.wav",
        "text": "因為法規已經改了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1238.wav",
        "text": "人數增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1239.wav",
        "text": "因為大部分經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1240.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1241.wav",
        "text": "基本上是可以用附帶決議的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1242.wav",
        "text": "由教育部來要求各縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1243.wav",
        "text": "人數也已經增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1244.wav",
        "text": "應該考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1245.wav",
        "text": "就近照顧這樣的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1246.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1247.wav",
        "text": "這個實務上是可以執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1248.wav",
        "text": "建議可以用附帶決議的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1249.wav",
        "text": "由教育部督導各縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1250.wav",
        "text": "以上說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1251.wav",
        "text": "好那就教育部研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1252.wav",
        "text": "我還是認為15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1253.wav",
        "text": "只差那58個就不行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1254.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1255.wav",
        "text": "20校到15校就差那58個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1256.wav",
        "text": "你看這麼多委員都提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1257.wav",
        "text": "包括很多偏遠地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1258.wav",
        "text": "你就可以不用為了這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1259.wav",
        "text": "讓他們每天在這邊奔波"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1260.wav",
        "text": "只增加58個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1261.wav",
        "text": "就可以解決這麼多的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1262.wav",
        "text": "58人我還是強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1263.wav",
        "text": "不要說20到15我算過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1264.wav",
        "text": "就是只有58人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1265.wav",
        "text": "這有沒有解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1266.wav",
        "text": "我們可以同意剛剛你們說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1267.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1268.wav",
        "text": "用附帶決議的方式我覺得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1269.wav",
        "text": "可是我還是覺得20到15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1270.wav",
        "text": "就差那58"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1271.wav",
        "text": "又不是差到580是58人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1272.wav",
        "text": "所有的委員都贊成這樣的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1273.wav",
        "text": "這個部分有沒有修改的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1274.wav",
        "text": "有的話我現在來唸條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1275.wav",
        "text": "趕快第十一條就可以唸過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1276.wav",
        "text": "我先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1277.wav",
        "text": "與第十一條的時候是整體考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1278.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1279.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會放在第10條加碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1280.wav",
        "text": "很受考慮的原因就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1281.wav",
        "text": "輔導老師住在學校裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1282.wav",
        "text": "在這種情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1283.wav",
        "text": "針對第十一條他們相對來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1284.wav",
        "text": "當然就會比較支持教育部原本的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1285.wav",
        "text": "如果這個地方再加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1286.wav",
        "text": "就會變成雙重條文都加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1287.wav",
        "text": "為什麼在行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1288.wav",
        "text": "院會排了幾次都沒排進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1289.wav",
        "text": "第十一條要斟酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1290.wav",
        "text": "可能需要的人力配置跟經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1291.wav",
        "text": "我相信對於這個方案人總主總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1292.wav",
        "text": "在態度上都是支持的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1293.wav",
        "text": "啦但如果要再做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1294.wav",
        "text": "說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1295.wav",
        "text": "這些配置方式都是由各地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1296.wav",
        "text": "是每20班的學校設置1人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1297.wav",
        "text": "還有4,500到5,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1298.wav",
        "text": "這也是新修正條文之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1299.wav",
        "text": "也是另外增加的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1300.wav",
        "text": "也就是說讓各地方主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1301.wav",
        "text": "而不是直接配置在學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1302.wav",
        "text": "原來的20個改成15個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1303.wav",
        "text": "但現在策略上已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1304.wav",
        "text": "是採用3個策略方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1305.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以贊成以院版方案處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1306.wav",
        "text": "以上說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1307.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛是說我比較希望確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1308.wav",
        "text": "你們的說明文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1309.wav",
        "text": "對我也同意我支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1310.wav",
        "text": "入法比什麼都重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1311.wav",
        "text": "以一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1312.wav",
        "text": "所以大家都可以接受嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1313.wav",
        "text": "你們都可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1314.wav",
        "text": "我先問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1315.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1316.wav",
        "text": "就是把第10條跟第十一條加起來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1317.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1318.wav",
        "text": "我們是基於現場所知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1319.wav",
        "text": "的所以提出這個困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1320.wav",
        "text": "如果行政院真的有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1321.wav",
        "text": "關於附帶決議的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1322.wav",
        "text": "我們還是希望教育部承擔起協助地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1323.wav",
        "text": "在增加這麼多人力之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1324.wav",
        "text": "教育部必須把大家各自的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1325.wav",
        "text": "盤點起來整理需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1326.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1327.wav",
        "text": "就是希望在這邊有所突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1328.wav",
        "text": "可是這個突破點顯然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1329.wav",
        "text": "不如我們大家所預期的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1330.wav",
        "text": "大家真的期待很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1331.wav",
        "text": "我們當然希望真的有更大的突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1332.wav",
        "text": "我肯定教育部非常努力在溝通協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1333.wav",
        "text": "但問題到底是出在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1334.wav",
        "text": "在誰身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1335.wav",
        "text": "人總嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1336.wav",
        "text": "題到底出在誰身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1337.wav",
        "text": "因為你們顯然都很贊成我們所有的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1338.wav",
        "text": "啊問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1339.wav",
        "text": "到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1340.wav",
        "text": "剛剛范雲委員所說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1341.wav",
        "text": "要入法那個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1342.wav",
        "text": "在立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1343.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1344.wav",
        "text": "啊既然要入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1345.wav",
        "text": "要寫在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1346.wav",
        "text": "就在立法說明是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1347.wav",
        "text": "那到時候也要給我們看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1348.wav",
        "text": "要白紙黑字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1349.wav",
        "text": "否則這年頭什麼都不信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1350.wav",
        "text": "真的連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1351.wav",
        "text": "白紙黑字都可能翻盤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1352.wav",
        "text": "回去之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1353.wav",
        "text": "就不會再做任何變動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1354.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1355.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠照這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1356.wav",
        "text": "事實上也都是討論過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1357.wav",
        "text": "剛才吳司長提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1358.wav",
        "text": "我剛才跟主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1359.wav",
        "text": "還有委員報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1360.wav",
        "text": "遠大的理想在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1361.wav",
        "text": "但是在整個師資培育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1362.wav",
        "text": "整個經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1363.wav",
        "text": "整個效益服務品質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1364.wav",
        "text": "中央跟地方合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1365.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議先寫一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1366.wav",
        "text": "我們再看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1367.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1368.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1369.wav",
        "text": "你們這樣就OK了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1370.wav",
        "text": "我回應一下主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1371.wav",
        "text": "是不是突然覺得有點孤單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1372.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1373.wav",
        "text": "應該再好好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1374.wav",
        "text": "繼續多作一些爭取的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1375.wav",
        "text": "那這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1376.wav",
        "text": "主席我剛剛有聽懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1377.wav",
        "text": "次長的誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1378.wav",
        "text": "條其實已經共同調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1379.wav",
        "text": "還是這邊先放著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1380.wav",
        "text": "等一下回來繼續聊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1381.wav",
        "text": "會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1382.wav",
        "text": "更完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1383.wav",
        "text": "請次長先說明第四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1384.wav",
        "text": "主席我沒有要喊保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1385.wav",
        "text": "我想要今天完成協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1386.wav",
        "text": "拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1387.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1388.wav",
        "text": "第4條有非常多部份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1389.wav",
        "text": "份是我們需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1390.wav",
        "text": "對薪點薪資這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1391.wav",
        "text": "的確是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1392.wav",
        "text": "我們先回來談一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1393.wav",
        "text": "薪點薪資好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1394.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1395.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1396.wav",
        "text": "可以先跟主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1397.wav",
        "text": "做這個請求嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1398.wav",
        "text": "先談第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1399.wav",
        "text": "你覺得這樣會比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1400.wav",
        "text": "你真的覺得這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1401.wav",
        "text": "會比較單純一點嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1402.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都不覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1403.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1404.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的理解針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1405.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛說的學諮中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1406.wav",
        "text": "心有幾個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1407.wav",
        "text": "應該只有高雄跟新北有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1408.wav",
        "text": "其他地方沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1409.wav",
        "text": "啦是高雄新北還有桃園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1410.wav",
        "text": "22個縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1411.wav",
        "text": "中有13個縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1412.wav",
        "text": "都有分區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1413.wav",
        "text": "分區點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1414.wav",
        "text": "了嘛所以把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1415.wav",
        "text": "校數降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1416.wav",
        "text": "是因為人少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1417.wav",
        "text": "啊不會輕易改變校數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1418.wav",
        "text": "而是改變班數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1419.wav",
        "text": "所以我才認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1420.wav",
        "text": "15校標準特別重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1421.wav",
        "text": "因為它可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1422.wav",
        "text": "讓各縣市統籌人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1423.wav",
        "text": "再多增加一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1424.wav",
        "text": "啊我們一直都在幫他們講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1425.wav",
        "text": "幫他們考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1426.wav",
        "text": "很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1427.wav",
        "text": "希望大家能夠考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1428.wav",
        "text": "司都有算過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1429.wav",
        "text": "就告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1430.wav",
        "text": "譬如說各縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1431.wav",
        "text": "才會覺得有往前進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1432.wav",
        "text": "啊否則以我們原本提的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1433.wav",
        "text": "來自這麼多委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1434.wav",
        "text": "不分黨派是更好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1435.wav",
        "text": "那你要跟大家講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1436.wav",
        "text": "是更好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1437.wav",
        "text": "跟廣大的你也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1438.wav",
        "text": "支持及關心的人交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1439.wav",
        "text": "我們講15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1440.wav",
        "text": "是我說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1441.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講的20校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1442.wav",
        "text": "4,500人或5,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1443.wav",
        "text": "以及外加6%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1444.wav",
        "text": "20校這個數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1445.wav",
        "text": "一樣是20校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1446.wav",
        "text": "那就是200人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1447.wav",
        "text": "20校的部分是200人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1448.wav",
        "text": "4,500人的時候是5,300"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1449.wav",
        "text": "人5,000人的時候是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1450.wav",
        "text": "抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1451.wav",
        "text": "5,000人的時候是477人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1452.wav",
        "text": "5,000人那邊是40人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1453.wav",
        "text": "會比起以前多1/3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1454.wav",
        "text": "33%為192人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1455.wav",
        "text": "你可不可以舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1456.wav",
        "text": "像是新竹縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1457.wav",
        "text": "待會再向您報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1458.wav",
        "text": "這樣大家會比較有具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1459.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1460.wav",
        "text": "來說像新北市約略占"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1461.wav",
        "text": "全國的大部分數據是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1462.wav",
        "text": "20%到1/616%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1463.wav",
        "text": "以一個縣市為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1464.wav",
        "text": "會增加14到16人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1465.wav",
        "text": "類似這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1466.wav",
        "text": "就是會增加那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1467.wav",
        "text": "14到16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1468.wav",
        "text": "人也拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1469.wav",
        "text": "我們耗了這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1470.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我增加14到16人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1471.wav",
        "text": "那是一個縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1472.wav",
        "text": "還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1473.wav",
        "text": "00萬人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1474.wav",
        "text": "是原本的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1475.wav",
        "text": "再加14人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1476.wav",
        "text": "會再外加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1477.wav",
        "text": "我知道是外加啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1478.wav",
        "text": "人數很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1479.wav",
        "text": "啊這就是學輔法要修的主要目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1480.wav",
        "text": "啊你卻告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1481.wav",
        "text": "後只增加14到16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1482.wav",
        "text": "要跟委員報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1483.wav",
        "text": "告剛才郭委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1484.wav",
        "text": "員也問到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1485.wav",
        "text": "偏鄉跑來跑去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1486.wav",
        "text": "問題其實大家對偏鄉那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1487.wav",
        "text": "漏看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1488.wav",
        "text": "沒有我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1489.wav",
        "text": "剛才談的全部沒含偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1490.wav",
        "text": "沒有含偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1491.wav",
        "text": "但我是說想像它的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1492.wav",
        "text": "不能漏掉那222人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1493.wav",
        "text": "啊我們剛剛講的773人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1494.wav",
        "text": "是不含那222人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1495.wav",
        "text": "絕對不能含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1496.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1497.wav",
        "text": "222"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1498.wav",
        "text": "的\n再來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1499.wav",
        "text": "剛才郭委員也問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1500.wav",
        "text": "有補助交通費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1501.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1502.wav",
        "text": "剛剛解決了幾個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1503.wav",
        "text": "如果今天大家談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1504.wav",
        "text": "20校沒有變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1505.wav",
        "text": "至於員額以另外兩個指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1506.wav",
        "text": "是達原來的33%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1507.wav",
        "text": "增加量為33%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1508.wav",
        "text": "加上偏鄉222人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1509.wav",
        "text": "再加上今天的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1510.wav",
        "text": "設置分區中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1511.wav",
        "text": "還有大校宜優先那一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1512.wav",
        "text": "之後增加量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1513.wav",
        "text": "\n我也跟大家報告一個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1514.wav",
        "text": "現行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1515.wav",
        "text": "才從79%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1516.wav",
        "text": "升到84%而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1517.wav",
        "text": "所以還有16%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1518.wav",
        "text": "是整個現場的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1519.wav",
        "text": "我們也要顧慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1520.wav",
        "text": "所以每幾年每幾年就會檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1521.wav",
        "text": "方式已經增加達33%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1522.wav",
        "text": "然後透過委員今天講的幾個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1523.wav",
        "text": "讓它實踐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1524.wav",
        "text": "的實聘率84%來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1525.wav",
        "text": "落實度可能會可惜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1526.wav",
        "text": "我們應讓它真正地發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1527.wav",
        "text": "所以建議委員我們儘快讓條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1528.wav",
        "text": "很多重要配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1529.wav",
        "text": "像是交通費的配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1530.wav",
        "text": "讓它真正可以動起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1531.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1532.wav",
        "text": "而你們當時說沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1533.wav",
        "text": "一下增加那麼多的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1534.wav",
        "text": "擔心一時之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1535.wav",
        "text": "聘不到這麼多專業的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1536.wav",
        "text": "我自己則是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1537.wav",
        "text": "繼續爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1538.wav",
        "text": "另外一個方式就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1539.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議再增加一個內容就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1540.wav",
        "text": "三年內就滾動式檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1541.wav",
        "text": "還是繼續增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1542.wav",
        "text": "下一次再修是不是10年後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1543.wav",
        "text": "當然都希望能夠愈來愈好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1544.wav",
        "text": "檢討如果你們擔心的是一下子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1545.wav",
        "text": "專業人才沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1546.wav",
        "text": "的話那就三年內滾動式調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1547.wav",
        "text": "要不然就是這一條保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1548.wav",
        "text": "大家繼續爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1549.wav",
        "text": "\n我只是提出建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1550.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議先寫一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1551.wav",
        "text": "知道大家都很想做好這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1552.wav",
        "text": "我們做了這麼多努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1553.wav",
        "text": "不太可能有機會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1554.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛所提到的這個層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1555.wav",
        "text": "如果有的話就是大家繼續耗著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1556.wav",
        "text": "送回行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1557.wav",
        "text": "大家協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1558.wav",
        "text": "又回來告訴我們不太可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1559.wav",
        "text": "主席我可以再問一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1560.wav",
        "text": "你再說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1561.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1562.wav",
        "text": "對於署長的說明我們可以了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1563.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛也才會提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1564.wav",
        "text": "把錢跟人的事情合在一起看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1565.wav",
        "text": "因為司長剛剛再度提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1566.wav",
        "text": "有主總人總的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1567.wav",
        "text": "但我想問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1568.wav",
        "text": "署長剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1569.wav",
        "text": "八十三點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1570.wav",
        "text": "如果我的想像沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1571.wav",
        "text": "以來自實務的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1572.wav",
        "text": "其實過往可能有一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1573.wav",
        "text": "是因為薪資太低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1574.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是要回到第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1575.wav",
        "text": "確實跟薪資有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1576.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛剛范委員已經說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1577.wav",
        "text": "如果我們都沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1578.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛只是想確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1579.wav",
        "text": "百分之八十幾這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1580.wav",
        "text": "其實真的跟薪資有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1581.wav",
        "text": "啦我們收到非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1582.wav",
        "text": "絕對是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1583.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1584.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得回來看第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1585.wav",
        "text": "應該也是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1586.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1587.wav",
        "text": "我們討論那麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1588.wav",
        "text": "不就是卡在這邊嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1589.wav",
        "text": "如果這件事情好解決的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1590.wav",
        "text": "其實上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1591.wav",
        "text": "最後也會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1592.wav",
        "text": "嘛當然我們又多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1593.wav",
        "text": "3個月的時間討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1594.wav",
        "text": "啊薪資一定沒有辦法讓所有的人滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1595.wav",
        "text": "這個會期有所突破跟進展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1596.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這點也重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1597.wav",
        "text": "啊所以比較起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1598.wav",
        "text": "我反而會比較建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1599.wav",
        "text": "說要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1600.wav",
        "text": "之後還有朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1601.wav",
        "text": "再由院長召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1602.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還是有一樣的問題點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1603.wav",
        "text": "所以有沒有可能用一種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1604.wav",
        "text": "甚至2年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1605.wav",
        "text": "都是希望能夠先補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1606.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1607.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1608.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1609.wav",
        "text": "那就做附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1610.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導法第22條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1611.wav",
        "text": "其實在111年就檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1612.wav",
        "text": "提出建議了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1613.wav",
        "text": "審查過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1614.wav",
        "text": "就是116年要檢討了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1615.wav",
        "text": "嘛剛好就是3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1616.wav",
        "text": "所以大家不要擔心這條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1617.wav",
        "text": "每五年就要檢討一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1618.wav",
        "text": "但我們在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1619.wav",
        "text": "還是在幫這些講的話都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1620.wav",
        "text": "之前不知道在檢討什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1621.wav",
        "text": "讓我們更傷心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1622.wav",
        "text": "的就是已經晚兩年檢討了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1623.wav",
        "text": "因為照你這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1624.wav",
        "text": "每五年就要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1625.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就是在補兩年前的破網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1626.wav",
        "text": "有點這樣的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1627.wav",
        "text": "老半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1628.wav",
        "text": "都希望能夠幫這些學輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1629.wav",
        "text": "啦我知道這個過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1630.wav",
        "text": "說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1631.wav",
        "text": "教育部也做了一些努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1632.wav",
        "text": "很有誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1633.wav",
        "text": "大家有感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1634.wav",
        "text": "只是礙於財務的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1635.wav",
        "text": "好啦我們就在附帶決議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1636.wav",
        "text": "針對剛剛委員所關切的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1637.wav",
        "text": "全部加以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1638.wav",
        "text": "這是附帶決議是是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1639.wav",
        "text": "立法說明好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1640.wav",
        "text": "各高級中等以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1641.wav",
        "text": "學校主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1642.wav",
        "text": "所主管高級中等以下學校總數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1643.wav",
        "text": "合計二十校以下者置一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1644.wav",
        "text": "二十一校至四十校者置二人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1645.wav",
        "text": "四十一校以上者以此類推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1646.wav",
        "text": "各高級中等以下學校主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1647.wav",
        "text": "所主管高級中等以下學校學生總數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1648.wav",
        "text": "除以中央主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1649.wav",
        "text": "公告介於4005百至500之基數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1650.wav",
        "text": "中央主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1651.wav",
        "text": "得考量各高級中等以下學校主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1652.wav",
        "text": "所主管高級中等以下學校之輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1653.wav",
        "text": "案量地理區域等特殊情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1654.wav",
        "text": "在不超過前項各款加總計算之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1655.wav",
        "text": "全國專任專業輔導人員總數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1656.wav",
        "text": "百分之六範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1657.wav",
        "text": "依其需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1658.wav",
        "text": "核予特定高級中等以下學校主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1659.wav",
        "text": "外加專任專業輔導人員額數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1660.wav",
        "text": "不受前項規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1661.wav",
        "text": "是數額不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1662.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1663.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1664.wav",
        "text": "是依前二項規定所置專任專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1665.wav",
        "text": "應由高級中等以下學校主管機關統籌調派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1666.wav",
        "text": "並得委由所設學生輔導諮商中心所在學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1667.wav",
        "text": "或擇定之學校聘用之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1668.wav",
        "text": "我就跳過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1669.wav",
        "text": "應置專任專業輔導人員至少一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1670.wav",
        "text": "超過九百零人者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1671.wav",
        "text": "每滿九百零人增置專任專業輔導人員一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1672.wav",
        "text": "未滿九百零人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1673.wav",
        "text": "而餘數達四百五十人以上者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1674.wav",
        "text": "得視業務需求增置一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1675.wav",
        "text": "但空中大學及宗教研修學院不在此限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1676.wav",
        "text": "後面就是我們之前所熟悉的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1677.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1678.wav",
        "text": "有范雲委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1679.wav",
        "text": "包含這一次還有上一次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1680.wav",
        "text": "有3案都是范雲委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1681.wav",
        "text": "請教育部回應一下附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1682.wav",
        "text": "根據委員所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1683.wav",
        "text": "趁教育部在找的時候我先簡單說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1684.wav",
        "text": "我有兩處新增加的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1685.wav",
        "text": "內容一個是專科以上學校專輔人力相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1686.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1687.wav",
        "text": "大家可以看一下有沒有找到我的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1688.wav",
        "text": "內容就是考量專科以上學校專輔人員的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1689.wav",
        "text": "跟輔諮中心差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1690.wav",
        "text": "請教育部以修正補助要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1691.wav",
        "text": "增訂專輔人員薪資待遇基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1692.wav",
        "text": "納入評鑑項目及其他方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1693.wav",
        "text": "推動專科以上學校提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1694.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員薪資到委員會通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1695.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心專輔人員薪資待遇水平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1696.wav",
        "text": "因為等一下我們會處理那個薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1697.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我也希望一起提升專科以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1698.wav",
        "text": "這是一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1699.wav",
        "text": "萬一沒有做到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1700.wav",
        "text": "譬如說有些私立大學等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1701.wav",
        "text": "應該比照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1702.wav",
        "text": "\n另外是關於實驗教育學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1703.wav",
        "text": "有實驗教育家長跟學生反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1704.wav",
        "text": "映雖然他們其實適用學輔法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1705.wav",
        "text": "可是非常不了解相關資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1706.wav",
        "text": "所以我這項要求其實滿單純的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1707.wav",
        "text": "就是希望教育部研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1708.wav",
        "text": "怎麼加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1709.wav",
        "text": "其實實驗教育學生也有很多滿需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1710.wav",
        "text": "其實他們可以使用學生輔導資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1711.wav",
        "text": "以上我就針對這兩點先說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1712.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1713.wav",
        "text": "針對第十一條有非常多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1714.wav",
        "text": "還有柯志恩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1715.wav",
        "text": "我上次提出的第十一條附帶決議可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1716.wav",
        "text": "就是專業督導對於心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1717.wav",
        "text": "社工師專業能力養成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1718.wav",
        "text": "服務品質的把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1719.wav",
        "text": "督導各縣市政府落實相關規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1720.wav",
        "text": "這個部分可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1721.wav",
        "text": "偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1722.wav",
        "text": "了你們也說OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1723.wav",
        "text": "還有柯志恩委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1724.wav",
        "text": "你們那時候叫我修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1725.wav",
        "text": "較多之大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1726.wav",
        "text": "應優先派駐專任輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1727.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1728.wav",
        "text": "你們希望把那個應改成宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1729.wav",
        "text": "真的實在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1730.wav",
        "text": "我都傻眼了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1731.wav",
        "text": "請問用應有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1732.wav",
        "text": "所以應該用應啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1733.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1734.wav",
        "text": "不能用應嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1735.wav",
        "text": "各位聽聽看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1736.wav",
        "text": "駐校模式對於學校專業輔導工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1737.wav",
        "text": "具有正面效益不僅能提供深度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1738.wav",
        "text": "所以針對學生人數較多之大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1739.wav",
        "text": "應優先派駐專任專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1740.wav",
        "text": "並維持大型學校輔導人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1741.wav",
        "text": "很合理吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1742.wav",
        "text": "應吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1743.wav",
        "text": "就這樣吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1744.wav",
        "text": "教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1745.wav",
        "text": "這不是你們一貫的立場嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1746.wav",
        "text": "主席你的附帶決議在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1747.wav",
        "text": "有一疊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1748.wav",
        "text": "下啦我們對於學生人數較多的大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1749.wav",
        "text": "有很清楚的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1750.wav",
        "text": "後續就會有執行的強制力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1751.wav",
        "text": "那個應那麼到底是哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1752.wav",
        "text": "還是有衡量的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1753.wav",
        "text": "所以你們要定義大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1754.wav",
        "text": "所以我要給你大型學校的定義嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1755.wav",
        "text": "那就可以放我的應嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1756.wav",
        "text": "另外一點是對於主管機關來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1757.wav",
        "text": "手心是肉手背是肉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1758.wav",
        "text": "啦這樣考慮一定是基於整體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1759.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1760.wav",
        "text": "剛剛所提的我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1761.wav",
        "text": "在理念上完全知道委員要做的協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1762.wav",
        "text": "他如果是少觀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1763.wav",
        "text": "少觀所出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1764.wav",
        "text": "會在特定的大規模學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1765.wav",
        "text": "校如果沒有給縣市權限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1766.wav",
        "text": "下了應字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1767.wav",
        "text": "你是說對中型學校反而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1768.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法做這樣的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1769.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1770.wav",
        "text": "那我們就給它尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1771.wav",
        "text": "反正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1772.wav",
        "text": "這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1773.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1774.wav",
        "text": "本席同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1775.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1776.wav",
        "text": "其他委員有附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1777.wav",
        "text": "針對第十一條的附帶決議非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1778.wav",
        "text": "的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1779.wav",
        "text": "委員所提的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1780.wav",
        "text": "我們都遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1781.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1782.wav",
        "text": "另外就是剛才提的一點是分區設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1783.wav",
        "text": "還有一點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1784.wav",
        "text": "三年內要重新檢討人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1785.wav",
        "text": "配置這塊我們正在研擬文字當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1786.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1787.wav",
        "text": "我可以最後補充嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1788.wav",
        "text": "我本來還想講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1789.wav",
        "text": "但現在都要用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1790.wav",
        "text": "了針對現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1791.wav",
        "text": "學輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1792.wav",
        "text": "就是關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1793.wav",
        "text": "關於地方主管機關這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1794.wav",
        "text": "他們的考選制度不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1795.wav",
        "text": "我們之前一直跟教育部談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1796.wav",
        "text": "相關人員的品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1797.wav",
        "text": "那教育部可不可以在這次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1798.wav",
        "text": "修法的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1799.wav",
        "text": "一樣放附帶決議就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1800.wav",
        "text": "不用入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1801.wav",
        "text": "面試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1802.wav",
        "text": "什麼對著空氣模擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1803.wav",
        "text": "與各縣市政府討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1804.wav",
        "text": "出比較rough的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1805.wav",
        "text": "讓他們知道有所本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1806.wav",
        "text": "而不是自己決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1807.wav",
        "text": "愛怎麼考就怎麼考"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1808.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1809.wav",
        "text": "學輔諮中心人員的品質"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1810.wav",
        "text": "因為學輔諮中心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1811.wav",
        "text": "處理的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1812.wav",
        "text": "處於最困難狀況的孩子嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1813.wav",
        "text": "關於這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1814.wav",
        "text": "我相信署長一定知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1815.wav",
        "text": "我在講的現場困境"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1816.wav",
        "text": "那就放在附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1817.wav",
        "text": "針對相關考選用標準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1818.wav",
        "text": "在考試方法上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1819.wav",
        "text": "在進用人才的方法上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1820.wav",
        "text": "都跟各縣市開會討論"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1821.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以接受的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1822.wav",
        "text": "版本確保考進來人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1823.wav",
        "text": "的相關素質"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1824.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1825.wav",
        "text": "可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1826.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1827.wav",
        "text": "是全國一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1828.wav",
        "text": "至於您剛剛講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1829.wav",
        "text": "後續一些辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1830.wav",
        "text": "大家商量一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1831.wav",
        "text": "做成比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1832.wav",
        "text": "對要有最大公約數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1833.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1834.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議寫一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1835.wav",
        "text": "專輔教師的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1836.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1837.wav",
        "text": "專輔教師的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1838.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1839.wav",
        "text": "委員剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1840.wav",
        "text": "上我們可能沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1841.wav",
        "text": "用協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1842.wav",
        "text": "因為資格是規定怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1843.wav",
        "text": "就絕對要那樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1844.wav",
        "text": "但還有考法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1845.wav",
        "text": "目前所提的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1846.wav",
        "text": "甄選程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1847.wav",
        "text": "資格在法規寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1848.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1849.wav",
        "text": "如果大家沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1850.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1851.wav",
        "text": "我們剛念完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1852.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1853.wav",
        "text": "就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1854.wav",
        "text": "照行政院提案"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1855.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1856.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1857.wav",
        "text": "就稍微"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1858.wav",
        "text": "他們6案都遵照辦理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1859.wav",
        "text": "幾個文字上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1860.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員看一下吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1861.wav",
        "text": "第10條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1862.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1863.wav",
        "text": "就通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1864.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1865.wav",
        "text": "立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1866.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1867.wav",
        "text": "大家仔細看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1868.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1869.wav",
        "text": "以設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1870.wav",
        "text": "分區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1871.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1872.wav",
        "text": "配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1873.wav",
        "text": "輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1874.wav",
        "text": "以便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1875.wav",
        "text": "就近調派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1876.wav",
        "text": "即時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1877.wav",
        "text": "提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1878.wav",
        "text": "鄰近區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1879.wav",
        "text": "學校輔導資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1880.wav",
        "text": "服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1881.wav",
        "text": "我都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1882.wav",
        "text": "喔因為其他部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1883.wav",
        "text": "大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1884.wav",
        "text": "的疑義不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1885.wav",
        "text": "對於人數較多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1886.wav",
        "text": "之大型學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1887.wav",
        "text": "優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1888.wav",
        "text": "派駐"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1889.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1890.wav",
        "text": "以維持大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1891.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1892.wav",
        "text": "工作穩定發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1893.wav",
        "text": "我以前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1894.wav",
        "text": "認為應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1895.wav",
        "text": "後面還有什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1896.wav",
        "text": "沒有了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1897.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1898.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1899.wav",
        "text": "條最後回來才看第四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1900.wav",
        "text": "十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1901.wav",
        "text": "我說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1902.wav",
        "text": "各位可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1903.wav",
        "text": "針對有55班以上學校的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1904.wav",
        "text": "文字敘述上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1905.wav",
        "text": "都是把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1906.wav",
        "text": "學校輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1907.wav",
        "text": "跟專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1908.wav",
        "text": "的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1909.wav",
        "text": "十二條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1910.wav",
        "text": "我這樣可以吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1911.wav",
        "text": "合法吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1912.wav",
        "text": "把紅字部分唸一遍就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1913.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1914.wav",
        "text": "負責執行處遇性輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1915.wav",
        "text": "並協助發展性及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1916.wav",
        "text": "介入性輔導之推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1917.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1918.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1919.wav",
        "text": "我們就修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1920.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1921.wav",
        "text": "\n現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1922.wav",
        "text": "司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1923.wav",
        "text": "第十七條原本有兩項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1924.wav",
        "text": "談到學生輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1925.wav",
        "text": "相關工作人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1926.wav",
        "text": "涉及學生個資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1927.wav",
        "text": "要予以保密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1928.wav",
        "text": "避免外洩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1929.wav",
        "text": "除非是緊急危難的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1930.wav",
        "text": "情況則不在此限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1931.wav",
        "text": "限第二項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1932.wav",
        "text": "講的就是這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1933.wav",
        "text": "輔導工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1934.wav",
        "text": "必須遵守專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1935.wav",
        "text": "要確保學生接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1936.wav",
        "text": "專業服務的權益不受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1937.wav",
        "text": "第二項刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1938.wav",
        "text": "增列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1939.wav",
        "text": "成第十七條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1940.wav",
        "text": "專業倫理準則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1941.wav",
        "text": "是不是由中央主管機關訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1942.wav",
        "text": "以及將來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1943.wav",
        "text": "調查處理懲戒加以規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1944.wav",
        "text": "啦針對這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1945.wav",
        "text": "我們經過內部討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1946.wav",
        "text": "同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1947.wav",
        "text": "將第十七條第二項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1948.wav",
        "text": "予以刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1949.wav",
        "text": "移列到第十七條之一的第一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1950.wav",
        "text": "大家看一下黑字部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1951.wav",
        "text": "原本的第十七條第二項移過來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1952.wav",
        "text": "另外增加第二項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1953.wav",
        "text": "就是前項所稱的專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1954.wav",
        "text": "是指前項學生輔導工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1955.wav",
        "text": "按其身分別或專業別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1956.wav",
        "text": "依教師法心理師法及社工師法相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1957.wav",
        "text": "所應遵守的倫理規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1958.wav",
        "text": "換句話說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1959.wav",
        "text": "教師法心理師法社工師法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1960.wav",
        "text": "對於教師心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1961.wav",
        "text": "或社工師都已經有很嚴謹的規範了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1962.wav",
        "text": "啦理論上應該回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1963.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1964.wav",
        "text": "同意啦部版可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1965.wav",
        "text": "這樣看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1966.wav",
        "text": "比現行條文更加完整啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1967.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1968.wav",
        "text": "\n還有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1969.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1970.wav",
        "text": "增訂好像沒有比較好欸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1971.wav",
        "text": "本來就應該遵守自己的專業規定嘛\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1972.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1973.wav",
        "text": "處理要求教育部應該去把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1974.wav",
        "text": "跟教師相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1975.wav",
        "text": "就是教師進行輔導工作的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1976.wav",
        "text": "其實也會涉及專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1977.wav",
        "text": "而且學校的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1978.wav",
        "text": "專業諮商的環境不大一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1979.wav",
        "text": "針對守密部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1980.wav",
        "text": "教育部應該參考民間專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1981.wav",
        "text": "守則廣泛蒐集意見溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1982.wav",
        "text": "確保教師進行輔導工作時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1983.wav",
        "text": "也有專業倫理的守則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1984.wav",
        "text": "我們的條文的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1985.wav",
        "text": "你們就說要讓他們回去遵守原來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1986.wav",
        "text": "法令這是基本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1987.wav",
        "text": "如果不依照我跟陳培瑜委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1988.wav",
        "text": "就應該有一項附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1989.wav",
        "text": "要求參考民間專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1990.wav",
        "text": "譬如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1991.wav",
        "text": "輔諮學會也訂了學生輔導工作人員守則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1992.wav",
        "text": "或者根據剛剛我們講的社工等各"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1993.wav",
        "text": "規定修訂你們原本的內容啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1994.wav",
        "text": "譬如說針對教師的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1995.wav",
        "text": "是不是也要增訂在這裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1996.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該這樣才對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1997.wav",
        "text": "因為我們原本是要你們訂一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1998.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導工作人員專業倫理規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/1999.wav",
        "text": "嘛那你們的理由是這樣會疊床架屋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2000.wav",
        "text": "應依照各專業團體例如社工師等身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2001.wav",
        "text": "規範但社工師要什麼身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2002.wav",
        "text": "他們在考證照的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2003.wav",
        "text": "專業本來就有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2004.wav",
        "text": "而我們現在講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2005.wav",
        "text": "校園範圍比較廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2006.wav",
        "text": "譬如說有教師沒有這樣的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2007.wav",
        "text": "卻進行輔導工作的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2008.wav",
        "text": "專業倫理守則規範可以依循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2009.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議請教育部參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2010.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2011.wav",
        "text": "我要講的題目可能有點大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2012.wav",
        "text": "但我想教育部應該懂我的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2013.wav",
        "text": "我們這次想要強調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2014.wav",
        "text": "除了大家在意的薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2015.wav",
        "text": "班級人數的調整之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2016.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也希望這次修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2017.wav",
        "text": "讓大家更能看見三級輔導機制的連貫性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2018.wav",
        "text": "其專業性也必須被看見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2019.wav",
        "text": "不要再讓學校的人都覺得輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2020.wav",
        "text": "一天到晚沒事做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2021.wav",
        "text": "反正只是在跟學生講話嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2022.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2023.wav",
        "text": "論是第一級第二級第三級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2024.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都必須認知到自己在專業工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2025.wav",
        "text": "可能真的會遇到學生來跟你唉兩聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2026.wav",
        "text": "而你因為有危機意識有輔導意識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2027.wav",
        "text": "所以對學生作出相關的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2028.wav",
        "text": "確保學生的平衡發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2029.wav",
        "text": "如果把這個邏輯放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2030.wav",
        "text": "其實我們當時要談所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2031.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2032.wav",
        "text": "應謹守專業倫理用意是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2033.wav",
        "text": "就算是校工校安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2034.wav",
        "text": "尤其是校安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2035.wav",
        "text": "尤其是很多校安人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2036.wav",
        "text": "其實有很多是因為校安人員的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2037.wav",
        "text": "去確保這些人有沒有謹守專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2038.wav",
        "text": "我還是會擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2039.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道你們說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2040.wav",
        "text": "心理師社工師教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2041.wav",
        "text": "都已經有相關專業倫理規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2042.wav",
        "text": "但我們自己不要忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2043.wav",
        "text": "三級輔導機制是未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2044.wav",
        "text": "要落實努力的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2045.wav",
        "text": "政策對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2046.wav",
        "text": "讓學校裡的每個人都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2047.wav",
        "text": "他必須承擔這個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2048.wav",
        "text": "規範他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2049.wav",
        "text": "當他承接到或意識到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2050.wav",
        "text": "其實有規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2051.wav",
        "text": "在協助大家支持學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2052.wav",
        "text": "如果你們真的認為條文修正有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2053.wav",
        "text": "請告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2054.wav",
        "text": "有相關認知跟規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2055.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2056.wav",
        "text": "不會只有老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2057.wav",
        "text": "心理師或社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2058.wav",
        "text": "學校的校安人員或行政同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2059.wav",
        "text": "用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2060.wav",
        "text": "訂出教育相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2061.wav",
        "text": "──如校安人員幹事志工等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2062.wav",
        "text": "對於輔導工作的保密指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2063.wav",
        "text": "老師心理師社工師等相關團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2064.wav",
        "text": "你是說第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2065.wav",
        "text": "還要再用附帶決議的方法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2066.wav",
        "text": "未盡事宜是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2067.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2068.wav",
        "text": "工作指引本身就會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2069.wav",
        "text": "啊工作指引裡本來就會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2070.wav",
        "text": "這樣可能就更嚴謹一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2071.wav",
        "text": "不過說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2072.wav",
        "text": "他們本身的專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2073.wav",
        "text": "刻在骨子裡了所以談到專業倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2074.wav",
        "text": "本來就應該對他們產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2075.wav",
        "text": "教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2076.wav",
        "text": "以現在的法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2077.wav",
        "text": "其實我看完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2078.wav",
        "text": "覺得你們這樣的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2079.wav",
        "text": "其實是合乎邏輯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2080.wav",
        "text": "的不管是教師心理師或輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2081.wav",
        "text": "本來就已經有這些倫理規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2082.wav",
        "text": "較於社會學生輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2083.wav",
        "text": "是啊所以有沒有必要在這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2084.wav",
        "text": "有疊床架屋的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2085.wav",
        "text": "當然有委員提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2086.wav",
        "text": "我覺得也很嚴謹沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2087.wav",
        "text": "其實是有沒有必要這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2088.wav",
        "text": "本來我們也相信老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2089.wav",
        "text": "心理師社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2090.wav",
        "text": "工師都有專業倫理的法條在規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2091.wav",
        "text": "這點沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2092.wav",
        "text": "但是我剛才要針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2093.wav",
        "text": "有時候可能有校安人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2094.wav",
        "text": "而校安人員不一定是老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2095.wav",
        "text": "所以針對教育人員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2096.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法周延的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2097.wav",
        "text": "沒有受教師法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2098.wav",
        "text": "心理師法社工師法規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2099.wav",
        "text": "在規範之外的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2100.wav",
        "text": "假設他也剛好參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2101.wav",
        "text": "或知道這個訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2102.wav",
        "text": "那我們怎麼樣做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2103.wav",
        "text": "本身其實就會受到這些法條的約制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2104.wav",
        "text": "而且他們本身就具有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2105.wav",
        "text": "所以不需要再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2106.wav",
        "text": "不需要學生輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2107.wav",
        "text": "的最後不要ending在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2108.wav",
        "text": "十七條這邊其實就有類似作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2109.wav",
        "text": "作用如果部長仍覺得要有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2110.wav",
        "text": "在法條上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2111.wav",
        "text": "我覺得在第十七條之1這個層面上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2112.wav",
        "text": "其實是沒有必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2113.wav",
        "text": "啦大家覺得怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2114.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2115.wav",
        "text": "但是要有個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2116.wav",
        "text": "對啊就好了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2117.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2118.wav",
        "text": "針對相關的人員跟機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2119.wav",
        "text": "當然這是在附帶決議要決定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2120.wav",
        "text": "告訴我們大家應盡的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2121.wav",
        "text": "好像我是小朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2122.wav",
        "text": "我已經知道我要幹嘛了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2123.wav",
        "text": "你卻又給我一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2124.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得對我來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2125.wav",
        "text": "這是天經地義的事情好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2126.wav",
        "text": "OK好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2127.wav",
        "text": "刪除就用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2128.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2129.wav",
        "text": "好感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2130.wav",
        "text": "主席我想確定一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2131.wav",
        "text": "因為我當時就提出附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2132.wav",
        "text": "要求訂定學生輔導工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2133.wav",
        "text": "（如學校老師學務創新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2134.wav",
        "text": "及校安人員職員教練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2135.wav",
        "text": "社團教師志工等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2136.wav",
        "text": "）對於學生輔導的指引（如保密等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2137.wav",
        "text": "之專業輔導教師心理師社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2138.wav",
        "text": "應依相關辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2139.wav",
        "text": "所以也請教育部確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2140.wav",
        "text": "這個附帶是不是可以主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2141.wav",
        "text": "主席抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2142.wav",
        "text": "抱歉你說現在第十七條之1要拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2143.wav",
        "text": "就不予增訂了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2144.wav",
        "text": "並應謹守專業倫理維護這個部分保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2145.wav",
        "text": "就是貼回去也就是原來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2146.wav",
        "text": "就是維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2147.wav",
        "text": "這樣就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2148.wav",
        "text": "但現行條文是前項人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2149.wav",
        "text": "現在講的是學生輔導工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2150.wav",
        "text": "所以還是有修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2151.wav",
        "text": "文字要確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2152.wav",
        "text": "前項人員並應遵守相關嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2153.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2154.wav",
        "text": "\n嘛可是現在講的文字是學生輔導工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2155.wav",
        "text": "要改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2156.wav",
        "text": "並應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2157.wav",
        "text": "是這就是原有條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2158.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2159.wav",
        "text": "然後其他大家剛剛所顧慮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2160.wav",
        "text": "到時候附帶決議請給我們看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2161.wav",
        "text": "第十七條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2162.wav",
        "text": "教育部看過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2163.wav",
        "text": "教育部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2164.wav",
        "text": "\n我先跟大家討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2165.wav",
        "text": "現在是3點45分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2166.wav",
        "text": "而第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2167.wav",
        "text": "的附帶決議很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2168.wav",
        "text": "各位要繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2169.wav",
        "text": "還是擇期我尊重大家意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2170.wav",
        "text": "我們很忙關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2171.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2172.wav",
        "text": "我們現在只剩下第4條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2173.wav",
        "text": "還沒討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2174.wav",
        "text": "現在已經3點43分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2175.wav",
        "text": "果要把這部分弄完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2176.wav",
        "text": "我可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2177.wav",
        "text": "我們把這邊處理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2178.wav",
        "text": "只剩下第4條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2179.wav",
        "text": "就是附帶決議中的薪點有問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2180.wav",
        "text": "我們來研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2181.wav",
        "text": "第4條條文沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2182.wav",
        "text": "第4條沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2183.wav",
        "text": "第4條第5條都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2184.wav",
        "text": "而是對於附帶決議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2185.wav",
        "text": "針對薪資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2186.wav",
        "text": "大家非常有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2187.wav",
        "text": "繼續把它弄完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2188.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2189.wav",
        "text": "快點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2190.wav",
        "text": "第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2191.wav",
        "text": "有兩個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2192.wav",
        "text": "一個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2193.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2194.wav",
        "text": "還有一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2195.wav",
        "text": "將來輔諮中心的專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2196.wav",
        "text": "統籌調派要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2197.wav",
        "text": "依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2198.wav",
        "text": "這兩部分委員都簽署了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2199.wav",
        "text": "遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2200.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2201.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2202.wav",
        "text": "你們就遵照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2203.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2204.wav",
        "text": "沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2205.wav",
        "text": "吧教育部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2206.wav",
        "text": "教育部沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2207.wav",
        "text": "\n那第十七條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2208.wav",
        "text": "我還要念嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2209.wav",
        "text": "還是大家認為已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2210.wav",
        "text": "OK了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2211.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2212.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2213.wav",
        "text": "螢幕上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2214.wav",
        "text": "對啊附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2215.wav",
        "text": "啊剛剛就已經討論過啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2216.wav",
        "text": "通案嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2217.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2218.wav",
        "text": "沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2219.wav",
        "text": "有關學生輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2220.wav",
        "text": "工作相關人員的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2221.wav",
        "text": "請於3個月內研議並提出規劃報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2222.wav",
        "text": "工作相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2223.wav",
        "text": "對於學生輔導之指引（如保密等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2224.wav",
        "text": "）第二是有關違反專業倫理規範之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2225.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2226.wav",
        "text": "心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2227.wav",
        "text": "心理師法及社會工作師法之規範處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2228.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2229.wav",
        "text": "第10條及第十一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2230.wav",
        "text": "條的附帶決議可以這樣針對兩條寫嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2231.wav",
        "text": "OK好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2232.wav",
        "text": "照行政院版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2233.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2234.wav",
        "text": "回到第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2235.wav",
        "text": "第4條條文是通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2236.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2237.wav",
        "text": "司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2238.wav",
        "text": "維持現行版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2239.wav",
        "text": "維持現行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2240.wav",
        "text": "第4條要討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2241.wav",
        "text": "就是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2242.wav",
        "text": "主要是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2243.wav",
        "text": "在委員會完成審查之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2244.wav",
        "text": "我們希望爭取時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2245.wav",
        "text": "趕快及早研議啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2246.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2247.wav",
        "text": "幫忙召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2248.wav",
        "text": "也邀了行政院人事總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2249.wav",
        "text": "主計總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2250.wav",
        "text": "衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2251.wav",
        "text": "邀請專業團體以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2252.wav",
        "text": "以及地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2253.wav",
        "text": "共同討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2254.wav",
        "text": "對於目前調整的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2255.wav",
        "text": "針對專業輔導人員部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2256.wav",
        "text": "學士學位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2257.wav",
        "text": "或碩士學位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2258.wav",
        "text": "目前的薪水是差1階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2259.wav",
        "text": "這部分希望從差1階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2260.wav",
        "text": "調整為差2階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2261.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2262.wav",
        "text": "普遍來說心理師的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2263.wav",
        "text": "一個月應該會增加2,000元左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2264.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2265.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員擔任督導的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2266.wav",
        "text": "訂有條件跟資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2267.wav",
        "text": "督導若是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2268.wav",
        "text": "學士畢業必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2269.wav",
        "text": "服務滿4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2270.wav",
        "text": "碩士畢業要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2271.wav",
        "text": "服務滿2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2272.wav",
        "text": "具有資格擔任督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2273.wav",
        "text": "而且督導的職責確實是比較重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2274.wav",
        "text": "所以我們經過討論之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2275.wav",
        "text": "後建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2276.wav",
        "text": "再較原來的薪水晉2階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2277.wav",
        "text": "回任專業輔導人員則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2278.wav",
        "text": "則可能會受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2279.wav",
        "text": "輔導人員薪資天花板的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2280.wav",
        "text": "但他擔任督導這段期間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2281.wav",
        "text": "年資一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2282.wav",
        "text": "視同輔導人員年資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2283.wav",
        "text": "是可以被採認的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2284.wav",
        "text": "目前調整的方向大概是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2285.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2286.wav",
        "text": "針對督導人員的薪水天花板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2287.wav",
        "text": "我們也配合提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2288.wav",
        "text": "調整到跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2289.wav",
        "text": "保護性社工督導的薪資天花板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2290.wav",
        "text": "\n針對剛剛談的這幾個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2291.wav",
        "text": "基本上在溝通過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2292.wav",
        "text": "都有相當程度的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2293.wav",
        "text": "待大家處理的可能在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2294.wav",
        "text": "薪點折合率那一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2295.wav",
        "text": "是比照社安網社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2296.wav",
        "text": "調整到140.3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2297.wav",
        "text": "但保護性社工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2298.wav",
        "text": "還是比較高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2299.wav",
        "text": "大家覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2300.wav",
        "text": "好像還是要有所區別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2301.wav",
        "text": "因為保護性社工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2302.wav",
        "text": "值夜班的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2303.wav",
        "text": "所以他是辛苦程度比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2304.wav",
        "text": "大家覺得還是要有一點點區隔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2305.wav",
        "text": "我們並沒有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2306.wav",
        "text": "完全不調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2307.wav",
        "text": "只是這一波是希望先讓敘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2308.wav",
        "text": "敘薪起點跟天花板的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2309.wav",
        "text": "趕快調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2310.wav",
        "text": "一般的心理師可以多2,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2311.wav",
        "text": "元如果是擔任督導可以再多4,000元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2312.wav",
        "text": "因為晉兩階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2313.wav",
        "text": "大概方向是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2314.wav",
        "text": "\n至於其他部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2315.wav",
        "text": "我們也有跟衛福部建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2316.wav",
        "text": "因為我們這樣調整之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2317.wav",
        "text": "對於社安網的一般性社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2318.wav",
        "text": "其實是有某種程度的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2319.wav",
        "text": "所以也有請衛福部幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2320.wav",
        "text": "就是社安網的第2期計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2321.wav",
        "text": "也要重新做思考調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2322.wav",
        "text": "也能有所因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2323.wav",
        "text": "以避免社安網的一般性社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2324.wav",
        "text": "往學校這邊大量移動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2325.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2326.wav",
        "text": "要請衛福部就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2327.wav",
        "text": "他們的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2328.wav",
        "text": "來做考量說實在的這都是環環相扣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2329.wav",
        "text": "他們的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2330.wav",
        "text": "每次都會考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2331.wav",
        "text": "所以應該是有努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2332.wav",
        "text": "地把他們的薪資也往上提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2333.wav",
        "text": "畢竟他們真的是非常的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2334.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2335.wav",
        "text": "我們前面5次的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2336.wav",
        "text": "衛福部每次都有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2337.wav",
        "text": "他們尊重我們目前的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2338.wav",
        "text": "也知道將來連動的那一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2339.wav",
        "text": "要去進行下一波的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2340.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2341.wav",
        "text": "是啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2342.wav",
        "text": "一定要跟著調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2343.wav",
        "text": "啦我是說社工師的部分應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2344.wav",
        "text": "要讓他們再調高一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2345.wav",
        "text": "每一次我們也是怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2346.wav",
        "text": "剝奪性的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2347.wav",
        "text": "挪移但問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2348.wav",
        "text": "他們那邊的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2349.wav",
        "text": "你永遠不調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2350.wav",
        "text": "是一直在牽拖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2351.wav",
        "text": "這個東西是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2352.wav",
        "text": "所以我個人認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2353.wav",
        "text": "衛福部就這個層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2354.wav",
        "text": "來多多爭取他們的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2355.wav",
        "text": "各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2356.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2357.wav",
        "text": "我先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2358.wav",
        "text": "因為委員對於第4條的附帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2359.wav",
        "text": "對此我們有考慮過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2360.wav",
        "text": "因為有一些條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2361.wav",
        "text": "我們經過討論是做不到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2362.wav",
        "text": "譬如說主管加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2363.wav",
        "text": "職務加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2364.wav",
        "text": "專業證照加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2365.wav",
        "text": "你把那個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2366.wav",
        "text": "給各位委員看一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2367.wav",
        "text": "我們有發送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2368.wav",
        "text": "這張有沒有印給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2369.wav",
        "text": "對啊我要簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2370.wav",
        "text": "就是我們講的重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2371.wav",
        "text": "從上次會議之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2372.wav",
        "text": "我也持續地跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2373.wav",
        "text": "要如何去增加專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2374.wav",
        "text": "這主要就是教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2375.wav",
        "text": "共同努力下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2376.wav",
        "text": "也要謝謝教育部的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2377.wav",
        "text": "去跟人總跟主總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2378.wav",
        "text": "主總大家一起去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2379.wav",
        "text": "跟行政院爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2380.wav",
        "text": "目前的確是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2381.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員跟督導的薪資地板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2382.wav",
        "text": "和天花板的等階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2383.wav",
        "text": "我自己原本提的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2384.wav",
        "text": "一個是專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2385.wav",
        "text": "現在還有一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2386.wav",
        "text": "就是專業證照加給的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2387.wav",
        "text": "我的版本原本是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2388.wav",
        "text": "提到專輔人員持有國家專技高考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2389.wav",
        "text": "專業證照者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2390.wav",
        "text": "應合理給予執業執照加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2391.wav",
        "text": "並不應低於保護性社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2392.wav",
        "text": "執業執照加給32薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2393.wav",
        "text": "點就這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2394.wav",
        "text": "好像是衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2395.wav",
        "text": "很堅持保護性社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2396.wav",
        "text": "而那個部分是更高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2397.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2398.wav",
        "text": "不知道還有沒有空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2399.wav",
        "text": "其他的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2400.wav",
        "text": "我已經很盡力的爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2401.wav",
        "text": "教育部也一直幫忙在爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2402.wav",
        "text": "這也要肯定教育部的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2403.wav",
        "text": "針對現在的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2404.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還不夠滿意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2405.wav",
        "text": "就是專業證照的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2406.wav",
        "text": "所以大家再討論看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2407.wav",
        "text": "就是社工那邊如果能夠增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2408.wav",
        "text": "更困難的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2409.wav",
        "text": "我們先請司長或次長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2410.wav",
        "text": "主席我可以先一併問嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2411.wav",
        "text": "我先一併問好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2412.wav",
        "text": "所以我們確定一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2413.wav",
        "text": "目前大家一起努力爭取的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2414.wav",
        "text": "就是參考衛福部相關規定中的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2415.wav",
        "text": "保護性社工敘薪規定對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2416.wav",
        "text": "敘薪規定的算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2417.wav",
        "text": "就會是比照保護性社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2418.wav",
        "text": "敘薪的地板跟天花板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2419.wav",
        "text": "143.9薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2420.wav",
        "text": "點這個薪點的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2421.wav",
        "text": "等一下請你們來做回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2422.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道司長剛剛有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2423.wav",
        "text": "工作的專業性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2424.wav",
        "text": "還有危險性高度也不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2425.wav",
        "text": "督導會希望以原薪及晉點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2426.wav",
        "text": "兩階取代督導加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2427.wav",
        "text": "這個部分也想請問教育部的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2428.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來就是督導回任專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2429.wav",
        "text": "會採計年資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2430.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我覺得長年以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2431.wav",
        "text": "都沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2432.wav",
        "text": "希望這次有機會改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2433.wav",
        "text": "還有就是採計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2434.wav",
        "text": "過去專業工作年資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2435.wav",
        "text": "從地板算起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2436.wav",
        "text": "像是專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2437.wav",
        "text": "從A縣市的學輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2438.wav",
        "text": "到B縣市的學輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2439.wav",
        "text": "年資過去到底有沒有加上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2440.wav",
        "text": "未來修法後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2441.wav",
        "text": "可不可以加上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2442.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2443.wav",
        "text": "從7等2階起薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2444.wav",
        "text": "但心理師的部分他們每一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2445.wav",
        "text": "只要是考試合格的心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2446.wav",
        "text": "都是具有碩士學位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2447.wav",
        "text": "這件事情我覺得他們必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2448.wav",
        "text": "被考慮到7等2階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2449.wav",
        "text": "中目前在職的專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2450.wav",
        "text": "跟著調高薪等這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2451.wav",
        "text": "我們也很好奇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2452.wav",
        "text": "根據剛剛委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2453.wav",
        "text": "大家都極力要爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2454.wav",
        "text": "我知道就是大家經歷了非常多的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2455.wav",
        "text": "有沒有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2456.wav",
        "text": "可以給予更完善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2457.wav",
        "text": "因為我們目前的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2458.wav",
        "text": "總共有9份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2459.wav",
        "text": "我們希望不用一一來做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2460.wav",
        "text": "而是能夠將其納為一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2461.wav",
        "text": "做這樣一個處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2462.wav",
        "text": "否則處理不完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2463.wav",
        "text": "剛剛培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2464.wav",
        "text": "跟范雲委員的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2465.wav",
        "text": "首先要說明的是委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2466.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員跟督導的敘薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2467.wav",
        "text": "做的方向幾乎跟大家的提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2468.wav",
        "text": "是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2469.wav",
        "text": "而且我們幾乎都已經對應到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2470.wav",
        "text": "保護性社工的狀況了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2471.wav",
        "text": "但我們不太可能再超過他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2472.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個我要先說明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2473.wav",
        "text": "第二個剛剛提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2474.wav",
        "text": "有關32薪點的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2475.wav",
        "text": "那個部分是因為民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2476.wav",
        "text": "會有很多承攬社會福利的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2477.wav",
        "text": "他們也必須要聘請社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2478.wav",
        "text": "但是因為民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2479.wav",
        "text": "跟衛福部所申請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2480.wav",
        "text": "可能只是部分經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2481.wav",
        "text": "有些部分是要自籌的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2482.wav",
        "text": "所以他們基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2483.wav",
        "text": "是用比較低的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2484.wav",
        "text": "去聘這些社工員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2485.wav",
        "text": "而他們大部分都是沒有證照的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2486.wav",
        "text": "我想衛福部是基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2487.wav",
        "text": "希望他們聘具有證照的社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2488.wav",
        "text": "所以加給32個薪點的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2489.wav",
        "text": "先說明這32個薪點的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2490.wav",
        "text": "後來衛福部也刪除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2491.wav",
        "text": ",000塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2492.wav",
        "text": "但還是要說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2493.wav",
        "text": "那個是衛福部給民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2494.wav",
        "text": "的希望他們聘的不要只是聘社工員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2495.wav",
        "text": "而是要能夠到社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2496.wav",
        "text": "所補助給民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2497.wav",
        "text": "希望減輕民間團體的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2498.wav",
        "text": "並願意聘有證照的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2499.wav",
        "text": "幫他們加薪的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2500.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員從頭到尾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2501.wav",
        "text": "就是一定要具有專業證照的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2502.wav",
        "text": "其實沒有那個空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2503.wav",
        "text": "再去加那4,000塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2504.wav",
        "text": "在討論過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2505.wav",
        "text": "這個部分有跟人總主總衛福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2506.wav",
        "text": "部反覆討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2507.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是完全沒有人贊同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2508.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2509.wav",
        "text": "大家還有不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2510.wav",
        "text": "本來就可以採計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2511.wav",
        "text": "他當督導回來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2512.wav",
        "text": "督導年資也算在專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2513.wav",
        "text": "還是一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2514.wav",
        "text": "今天為什麼說這是重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2515.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法讓專輔人員有感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2516.wav",
        "text": "畢竟這個薪資問題是非常現實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2517.wav",
        "text": "的總不能每次都要他去做功德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2518.wav",
        "text": "我知道大家很努力了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2519.wav",
        "text": "的時候因為有人認為要法制化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2520.wav",
        "text": "但現在我們大家退縮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2521.wav",
        "text": "你完全沒有辦法來做一個迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2522.wav",
        "text": "真的還是要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2523.wav",
        "text": "很多人都強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2524.wav",
        "text": "以7等2階來做起薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2525.wav",
        "text": "然後晉敘薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2526.wav",
        "text": "最高是到8等7階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2527.wav",
        "text": "這很多委員特別會去提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2528.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們要特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2529.wav",
        "text": "因為現在心理師及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2530.wav",
        "text": "有碩士學位的社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2531.wav",
        "text": "都用6等4階來聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2532.wav",
        "text": "太低了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2533.wav",
        "text": "啦所以你看委員大家都在大聲疾呼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2534.wav",
        "text": "不是只有我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2535.wav",
        "text": "我想在場的每個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2536.wav",
        "text": "都看到有這樣一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2537.wav",
        "text": "\n所以當初的起薪很低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2538.wav",
        "text": "本身就是一個錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2539.wav",
        "text": "而且這次修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2540.wav",
        "text": "我覺得最主要是補破網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2541.wav",
        "text": "這是一個功德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2542.wav",
        "text": "我真的覺得這根本就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2543.wav",
        "text": "把人家過去應得的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2544.wav",
        "text": "這次一次把它補回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2545.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2546.wav",
        "text": "如果只是到剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2547.wav",
        "text": "司長所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2548.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個層面的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2549.wav",
        "text": "我還是要特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2550.wav",
        "text": "這個說起來還真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2551.wav",
        "text": "是說不過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2552.wav",
        "text": "這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2553.wav",
        "text": "大家都已經做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2554.wav",
        "text": "這麼多的努力了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2555.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2556.wav",
        "text": "這是希望給過去長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2557.wav",
        "text": "在第一線的工作者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2558.wav",
        "text": "一個最基本的交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2559.wav",
        "text": "千萬不要認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2560.wav",
        "text": "我們這樣的爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2561.wav",
        "text": "好像為他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2562.wav",
        "text": "做了多少的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2563.wav",
        "text": "過去真的給太低了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2564.wav",
        "text": "講到這邊我就非常的感慨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2565.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2566.wav",
        "text": "如果我們再堅持下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2567.wav",
        "text": "然後包括你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2568.wav",
        "text": "剛剛所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2569.wav",
        "text": "方面都沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2570.wav",
        "text": "裡教育部剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2571.wav",
        "text": "也特別提出了意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2572.wav",
        "text": "就是針對我們所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2573.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2574.wav",
        "text": "\n各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2575.wav",
        "text": "最後時間你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2576.wav",
        "text": "就稍微看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2577.wav",
        "text": "如果覺得可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2578.wav",
        "text": "就在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2579.wav",
        "text": "以目前來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2580.wav",
        "text": "就是用這個方式來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2581.wav",
        "text": "做然後期望在未來當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2582.wav",
        "text": "能夠讓他們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2583.wav",
        "text": "持續的再做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2584.wav",
        "text": "啦各位委員覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2585.wav",
        "text": "呢我是非常不滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2586.wav",
        "text": "啦但是你如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2587.wav",
        "text": "再繼續下去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2588.wav",
        "text": "我們也只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2589.wav",
        "text": "耗在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2590.wav",
        "text": "休息5分鐘再繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2591.wav",
        "text": "因為我們已經開到4點1分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2592.wav",
        "text": "因為這跟我的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2593.wav",
        "text": "長相不大一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2594.wav",
        "text": "我們最後要比對一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2595.wav",
        "text": "好比對一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2596.wav",
        "text": "還有如果可以的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2597.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2598.wav",
        "text": "有9個不同的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2599.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是改用一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2600.wav",
        "text": "把該加的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2601.wav",
        "text": "休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2602.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2603.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2604.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議發現當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2605.wav",
        "text": "大家還是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2606.wav",
        "text": "應該到143.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2607.wav",
        "text": "個算起來是1,500"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2608.wav",
        "text": "然後加上你剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2609.wav",
        "text": "所提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2610.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2611.wav",
        "text": ",500"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2612.wav",
        "text": "督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2613.wav",
        "text": "也要專業到一個程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2614.wav",
        "text": "才有辦法當督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2615.wav",
        "text": "我個人覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2616.wav",
        "text": "當初我們所提出來的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2617.wav",
        "text": "還是希望折合率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2618.wav",
        "text": "能夠提高到143.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2619.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2620.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法再努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2621.wav",
        "text": "嗎我們也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2622.wav",
        "text": "這樣才可以到1,500"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2623.wav",
        "text": "\n關於那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2624.wav",
        "text": "最主要是你做合理的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2625.wav",
        "text": "但是你並沒有很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2626.wav",
        "text": "像第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2627.wav",
        "text": "就非常明確的告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2628.wav",
        "text": "你現在是要做這樣的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2629.wav",
        "text": "只是說未來做合理的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2630.wav",
        "text": "然後這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2631.wav",
        "text": "說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2632.wav",
        "text": "這個很快就會讓人亂掉你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2633.wav",
        "text": "所以有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2634.wav",
        "text": "就143.9的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2635.wav",
        "text": "請教育部再多努力一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2636.wav",
        "text": "我知道你剛才講得很明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2637.wav",
        "text": "督導就多4,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2638.wav",
        "text": "一般的輔導是2,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2639.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠到143.9的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2640.wav",
        "text": "每個月可以有1,500"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2641.wav",
        "text": "一個月有3,500所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2642.wav",
        "text": "問題在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2643.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是要找誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2644.wav",
        "text": "大家都討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2645.wav",
        "text": "基本上他個案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2646.wav",
        "text": "工作性質還是有差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2647.wav",
        "text": "啦雖然工作性質相近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2648.wav",
        "text": "職責相當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2649.wav",
        "text": "但基本上還是有些差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2650.wav",
        "text": "地板跟天花板的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2651.wav",
        "text": "都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2652.wav",
        "text": "我們再休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2653.wav",
        "text": "一樣的反正我的目標是希望爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2654.wav",
        "text": "就是6等3階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2655.wav",
        "text": "天花板是8等5階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2656.wav",
        "text": "碩士級的天花板是8等7階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2657.wav",
        "text": "然後折合率是140.3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2658.wav",
        "text": "你們現在提出來是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2659.wav",
        "text": "因為跟我們辦公室的寫法是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2660.wav",
        "text": "因為這個寫法真的是非常的複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2661.wav",
        "text": "所以你們確定可以做到現在這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2662.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛提到的另外一個就是專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2663.wav",
        "text": "證照加給的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2664.wav",
        "text": "就是沒有辦法了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2665.wav",
        "text": "就是跟保護性社工執業執照加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2666.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在討論這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2667.wav",
        "text": "我們現在要討論二的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2668.wav",
        "text": "剛剛司長跟次長有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2669.wav",
        "text": "保護性社工明年1月會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2670.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明是所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2671.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上折合率就會跟著調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2672.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2673.wav",
        "text": "這就是我剛特別看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2674.wav",
        "text": "我可以同意你折合率不要寫143.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2675.wav",
        "text": "因為就是配合這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2676.wav",
        "text": "可是要研議合理調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2677.wav",
        "text": "當你寫研議的時候表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2678.wav",
        "text": "你只是在研啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2679.wav",
        "text": "但是你可能不執行啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2680.wav",
        "text": "所以可不可以給我一個更好的動詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2681.wav",
        "text": "各位我們站在同一條線上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2682.wav",
        "text": "三位同仁到最後了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2683.wav",
        "text": "如果委員要的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2684.wav",
        "text": "反正前面有應考量其工作職責\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2685.wav",
        "text": "接合理調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2686.wav",
        "text": "做合理調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2687.wav",
        "text": "也一樣啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2688.wav",
        "text": "只是文字而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2689.wav",
        "text": "不行這個看起來很卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2690.wav",
        "text": "各位我們聽一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2691.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議也是9等6階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2692.wav",
        "text": "跟我們都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2693.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我想問題不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2694.wav",
        "text": "第二個我們考慮到薪點的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2695.wav",
        "text": "考量專輔人員在校園主責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2696.wav",
        "text": "主責處遇性輔導之專業與複雜性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2697.wav",
        "text": "並因應少年事件處理法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2698.wav",
        "text": "修法後之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2699.wav",
        "text": "曝險與偏差行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2700.wav",
        "text": "行為人輔導之挑戰性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2701.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員之薪點折合率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2702.wav",
        "text": "應考量其工作職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2703.wav",
        "text": "參酌社會安全網保護性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2704.wav",
        "text": "社工之薪點折合率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2705.wav",
        "text": "做合理調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2706.wav",
        "text": "我講白話一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2707.wav",
        "text": "每個月還可以多個1,500塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2708.wav",
        "text": "雖然文字上是這樣調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2709.wav",
        "text": "我們會同意文字上這樣的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2710.wav",
        "text": "但是實際上這樣的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2711.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要循那個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2712.wav",
        "text": "還是要報到行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2713.wav",
        "text": "所以之前的部分教育部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2714.wav",
        "text": "跟相關部會包含人總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2715.wav",
        "text": "跟主總去做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2716.wav",
        "text": "討論完以後我們報到行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2717.wav",
        "text": "由行政院他們再去做一個審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2718.wav",
        "text": "因為你剛剛告訴我針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2719.wav",
        "text": "對前面的部分都信誓旦旦地說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2720.wav",
        "text": "不管是調到9等6階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2721.wav",
        "text": "很顯然地讓大家覺得說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2722.wav",
        "text": "這是一個百分之百可以確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2723.wav",
        "text": "這個部分目前我們跟主總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2724.wav",
        "text": "跟人總談過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2725.wav",
        "text": "但是在第二個部分裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2726.wav",
        "text": "做合理的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2727.wav",
        "text": "這點還沒談過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2728.wav",
        "text": "所以還有待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2729.wav",
        "text": "有談但是當時談的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2730.wav",
        "text": "跟我們學校的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2731.wav",
        "text": "還是有些差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2732.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2733.wav",
        "text": "即使我做文字的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2734.wav",
        "text": "但是會不會真正落實到這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2735.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2736.wav",
        "text": "還是要去做爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2737.wav",
        "text": "那我們現在是不是只能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2738.wav",
        "text": "賦予教育部好好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2739.wav",
        "text": "是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2740.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在做任何的規定之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2741.wav",
        "text": "也還是要到人總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2742.wav",
        "text": "後面的部分還必須要走行政程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2743.wav",
        "text": "會不會處理老半天到時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2744.wav",
        "text": "程序告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2745.wav",
        "text": "因為經費考量不予通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2746.wav",
        "text": "至少剛剛講的第二段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2747.wav",
        "text": "是目前已經談的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2748.wav",
        "text": "基本上是有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2749.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2750.wav",
        "text": "你說第二個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2751.wav",
        "text": "意思是說如果他們同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2752.wav",
        "text": "就是2,000塊再加1,500塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2753.wav",
        "text": "因為143.9算起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2754.wav",
        "text": "就差不多是1,500塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2755.wav",
        "text": "我們講白話一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2756.wav",
        "text": "應該就是這樣子的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2757.wav",
        "text": "但是就這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2758.wav",
        "text": "教育部認為這塊他們是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2759.wav",
        "text": "的是目前為止他們可以爭取到最大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2760.wav",
        "text": "還是要回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2761.wav",
        "text": "我們行政院的一些流程程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2762.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2763.wav",
        "text": "可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2764.wav",
        "text": "主要就是現在聘用率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2765.wav",
        "text": "只有84%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2766.wav",
        "text": "我們當然還是希望可以爭取到更高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2767.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2768.wav",
        "text": "跟保護性社工的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2769.wav",
        "text": "其實兩者風險不大一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2770.wav",
        "text": "政府整體的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2771.wav",
        "text": "我們現在也沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2772.wav",
        "text": "去幫保護性社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2773.wav",
        "text": "爭取更多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2774.wav",
        "text": "因為那是衛福部的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2775.wav",
        "text": "所以就是看大家是否覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2776.wav",
        "text": "現在先這樣往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2777.wav",
        "text": "繼續爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2778.wav",
        "text": "我們精神跟召委同在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2779.wav",
        "text": "而且也已經一直在溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2780.wav",
        "text": "跟爭取也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2781.wav",
        "text": "開了非常多次會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2782.wav",
        "text": "對我們大家已經做到這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2783.wav",
        "text": "但我們即使爭取再多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2784.wav",
        "text": "然後條文也寫了這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2785.wav",
        "text": "到最後它還是要根據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2786.wav",
        "text": "行政院的一些程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2787.wav",
        "text": "到最後全部都告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2788.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就用一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2789.wav",
        "text": "第4條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2790.wav",
        "text": "就是以這張為基礎點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2791.wav",
        "text": "其他的9項就不用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2792.wav",
        "text": "因為都差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2793.wav",
        "text": "就折衷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2794.wav",
        "text": "大家就簽字在上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2795.wav",
        "text": "但教育部不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2796.wav",
        "text": "把壞人丟給行政院做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2797.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2798.wav",
        "text": "這個附帶決議裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2799.wav",
        "text": "跟行政院開過一次會議了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2800.wav",
        "text": "我們只是希望不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2801.wav",
        "text": "到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2802.wav",
        "text": "你現在雖沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2803.wav",
        "text": "sayno"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2804.wav",
        "text": "但是到最後是行政院sayno"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2805.wav",
        "text": "好像壞人是給行政院做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2806.wav",
        "text": "因為我們大家都希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2807.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2808.wav",
        "text": "委員剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2809.wav",
        "text": "議事人員提醒我了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2810.wav",
        "text": "我們因為做了一些修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2811.wav",
        "text": "所以請大家看第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2812.wav",
        "text": "第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2813.wav",
        "text": "因為跟第4條是連動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2814.wav",
        "text": "各位看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2815.wav",
        "text": "少年矯正學校得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2816.wav",
        "text": "不適用第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2817.wav",
        "text": "因為我們剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2818.wav",
        "text": "有一些條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2819.wav",
        "text": "做了一些處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2820.wav",
        "text": "所以現在應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2821.wav",
        "text": "改成第5項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2822.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2823.wav",
        "text": "這是連動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2824.wav",
        "text": "小事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2825.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2826.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2827.wav",
        "text": "我還有一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2828.wav",
        "text": "跟學生培力比較有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2829.wav",
        "text": "跟薪水無關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2830.wav",
        "text": "在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2831.wav",
        "text": "第幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2832.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2833.wav",
        "text": "的部分大家都OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2834.wav",
        "text": "了那是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2835.wav",
        "text": "的我們拿出來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2836.wav",
        "text": "滿單純的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2837.wav",
        "text": "主要就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2838.wav",
        "text": "教育部3個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2839.wav",
        "text": "研擬加強學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2840.wav",
        "text": "求助及轉介資訊的宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2841.wav",
        "text": "能夠同儕培力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2842.wav",
        "text": "陪伴者培力等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2843.wav",
        "text": "因為現在學生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2844.wav",
        "text": "心理健康問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2845.wav",
        "text": "真的越來越嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2846.wav",
        "text": "包含學生的同儕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2847.wav",
        "text": "還有重要他人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2848.wav",
        "text": "譬如說伴侶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2849.wav",
        "text": "對於相關輔導資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2850.wav",
        "text": "有特別需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2851.wav",
        "text": "可能會因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2852.wav",
        "text": "不是本人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2853.wav",
        "text": "就沒有受到協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2854.wav",
        "text": "或是不了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2855.wav",
        "text": "如何引導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2856.wav",
        "text": "有需要的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2857.wav",
        "text": "尋求協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2858.wav",
        "text": "或是如何陪伴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2859.wav",
        "text": "這是學生團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2860.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠讓教育部加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2861.wav",
        "text": "宣傳學生的求助及轉介資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2862.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2863.wav",
        "text": "本來教育就應該做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2864.wav",
        "text": "再加強好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2865.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2866.wav",
        "text": "原審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2867.wav",
        "text": "通過第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2868.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2869.wav",
        "text": "第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2870.wav",
        "text": "第十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2871.wav",
        "text": "修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2872.wav",
        "text": "第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2873.wav",
        "text": "均照行政院提案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2874.wav",
        "text": "第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2875.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2876.wav",
        "text": "及增訂第十七條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2877.wav",
        "text": "不予增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2878.wav",
        "text": "通過附帶決議17項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2879.wav",
        "text": "其餘均照審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2880.wav",
        "text": "審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2881.wav",
        "text": "檢附立法說明一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2882.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2883.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2884.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16243/2885.wav",
        "text": "辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/0.wav",
        "text": "併案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1.wav",
        "text": "及委員高金素梅等24人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/3.wav",
        "text": "組織法第3條及第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/4.wav",
        "text": "審查會於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/5.wav",
        "text": "113年10月9日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/6.wav",
        "text": "審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/7.wav",
        "text": "審查結果第3條保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/8.wav",
        "text": "第4條照案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/9.wav",
        "text": "並決議院會討論前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/10.wav",
        "text": "須交由黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/11.wav",
        "text": "另委員黃仁等29人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/12.wav",
        "text": "提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/13.wav",
        "text": "經113年10月25日第11屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/14.wav",
        "text": "第2會期第6次院會決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/15.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/16.wav",
        "text": "與相關提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/17.wav",
        "text": "併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/18.wav",
        "text": "以上共計4案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/19.wav",
        "text": "於今日併案進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/20.wav",
        "text": "協商時請參閱協商條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/21.wav",
        "text": "對照表與審查報告及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/22.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/23.wav",
        "text": "關係文書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/24.wav",
        "text": "與會委員如有修正動議或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/25.wav",
        "text": "機關有建議內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/26.wav",
        "text": "請提出書面印發現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/27.wav",
        "text": "進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/28.wav",
        "text": "提案委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/29.wav",
        "text": "我們請鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/30.wav",
        "text": "進行提案說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/31.wav",
        "text": "原民會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/32.wav",
        "text": "及說明的時候我也講過一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/33.wav",
        "text": "今天我再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/34.wav",
        "text": "就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/35.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/36.wav",
        "text": "的劃分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/37.wav",
        "text": "了憲法也是這樣明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/38.wav",
        "text": "雖然大家一直主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/39.wav",
        "text": "山原跟平原不要再分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/40.wav",
        "text": "但是憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/41.wav",
        "text": "畢竟還是這樣子區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/42.wav",
        "text": "原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/43.wav",
        "text": "從民國85年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/44.wav",
        "text": "12月10號成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/45.wav",
        "text": "到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/46.wav",
        "text": "總統或是行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/47.wav",
        "text": "我是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/48.wav",
        "text": "我當然是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/49.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是提出這樣的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/50.wav",
        "text": "文最主要就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/51.wav",
        "text": "原住民地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/52.wav",
        "text": "非常遼闊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/53.wav",
        "text": "然後現在又增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/54.wav",
        "text": "非常多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/55.wav",
        "text": "都會區原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/56.wav",
        "text": "所以整個臺澎金馬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/57.wav",
        "text": "都有我們原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/58.wav",
        "text": "任的主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/59.wav",
        "text": "事實上他的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/60.wav",
        "text": "根本沒辦法很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/61.wav",
        "text": "全面的去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/62.wav",
        "text": "每個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/63.wav",
        "text": "然後所了解的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/64.wav",
        "text": "也是有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/65.wav",
        "text": "而且在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/66.wav",
        "text": "陳水扁總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/67.wav",
        "text": "的任內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/68.wav",
        "text": "就有幾位平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/69.wav",
        "text": "都是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/70.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/71.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/72.wav",
        "text": "由山地原住民跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/73.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/74.wav",
        "text": "有關主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/75.wav",
        "text": "地方民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/76.wav",
        "text": "同意的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/77.wav",
        "text": "當初之所以會提這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/78.wav",
        "text": "最主要就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/79.wav",
        "text": "當院長的時候一直強調要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/80.wav",
        "text": "分流自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/81.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民族自治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/82.wav",
        "text": "原住民族自治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/83.wav",
        "text": "過去這8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/84.wav",
        "text": "未來恐怕也是很難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/85.wav",
        "text": "送來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/86.wav",
        "text": "啦所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/87.wav",
        "text": "既然蘇院長有所謂的分流自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/88.wav",
        "text": "我才會提出這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/89.wav",
        "text": "但因為上次討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/90.wav",
        "text": "大家有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/91.wav",
        "text": "不同的意見所以我就把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/92.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/93.wav",
        "text": "再做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/94.wav",
        "text": "修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/95.wav",
        "text": "另行提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/96.wav",
        "text": "把這個部分刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/97.wav",
        "text": "我新的提案是沒有包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/98.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/99.wav",
        "text": "就是第3條沒有第2項這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/100.wav",
        "text": "\n另外就是族群委員的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/101.wav",
        "text": "我上次也講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/102.wav",
        "text": "因為現在族群委員的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/103.wav",
        "text": "過去那樣族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/104.wav",
        "text": "能夠代表這個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/105.wav",
        "text": "地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/106.wav",
        "text": "基本上就已經沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/107.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個功能了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/108.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會把它改為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/109.wav",
        "text": "原民會的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/110.wav",
        "text": "非常欠缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/111.wav",
        "text": "族群委員的人事費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/112.wav",
        "text": "的人事費還不如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/113.wav",
        "text": "一般職員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/114.wav",
        "text": "然後去增加原民會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/115.wav",
        "text": "更有其需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/116.wav",
        "text": "\n另外就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/117.wav",
        "text": "修正條文就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/118.wav",
        "text": "如果大家有通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/119.wav",
        "text": "就自公布日來施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/120.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/121.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表來表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/122.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我代表民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/123.wav",
        "text": "先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/124.wav",
        "text": "併案審查的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/125.wav",
        "text": "族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/126.wav",
        "text": "組織法第3條及第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/127.wav",
        "text": "第3條有講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/128.wav",
        "text": "主委由山地原住民與平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/129.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/130.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民做完再換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/131.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/132.wav",
        "text": "當然首先一開始我是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/133.wav",
        "text": "一樣是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/134.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/135.wav",
        "text": "嗎這個是我一開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/136.wav",
        "text": "的想法當然原住民有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/137.wav",
        "text": "不同的族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/138.wav",
        "text": "不同的族之間要保留各族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/139.wav",
        "text": "把他們再劃分為山地跟平地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/140.wav",
        "text": "是有意義的區分這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/141.wav",
        "text": "我一開始心裡就在想的不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/142.wav",
        "text": "法律上當然是有去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/143.wav",
        "text": "這件事情萬一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/144.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/145.wav",
        "text": "確實做得不錯然後也受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/146.wav",
        "text": "整個原住民族的認同覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/147.wav",
        "text": "這個主委真的做得不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/148.wav",
        "text": "但是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/149.wav",
        "text": "內閣總辭後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/150.wav",
        "text": "因為卡到輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/151.wav",
        "text": "就一定要換下一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/152.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛舉山地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/153.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這樣的輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/154.wav",
        "text": "反而限礙了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/155.wav",
        "text": "政治應該是做得不好的下臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/156.wav",
        "text": "然後再由下一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/157.wav",
        "text": "擔任主委所以我覺得這樣的輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/158.wav",
        "text": "就有違責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/159.wav",
        "text": "副主委的部分如果同時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/160.wav",
        "text": "幾位副主委除了有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/161.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民同時也應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/162.wav",
        "text": "要有山地原住民就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/163.wav",
        "text": "擔心平地跟山地是否會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/164.wav",
        "text": "規定要由平地跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/165.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/166.wav",
        "text": "主委這個我覺得沒有必要而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/167.wav",
        "text": "也不符合責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/168.wav",
        "text": "原住民委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/169.wav",
        "text": "委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/170.wav",
        "text": "是它並不是一個任務性的編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/171.wav",
        "text": "它等於是一個常制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/172.wav",
        "text": "而且這些委員也確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/173.wav",
        "text": "原鄉裡面然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/174.wav",
        "text": "上他可能要去聽取地方的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/175.wav",
        "text": "互動去整合地方的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/176.wav",
        "text": "然後再提供給整個原住民族委員會作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/177.wav",
        "text": "有任務有常態性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/178.wav",
        "text": "的任務要由他去做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/179.wav",
        "text": "這個並"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/180.wav",
        "text": "如果大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/181.wav",
        "text": "現在要把它改成無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/182.wav",
        "text": "我覺得每一個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/183.wav",
        "text": "都有可能會重新執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/184.wav",
        "text": "現在是民進黨執政未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/185.wav",
        "text": "在野黨國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/186.wav",
        "text": "也有可能重新執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/187.wav",
        "text": "那國民黨重新執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/188.wav",
        "text": "後不就又要把它改成有給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/189.wav",
        "text": "那何必這樣去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/190.wav",
        "text": "呢\n因為我們大家都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/191.wav",
        "text": "族委員會就是過去可能在整個漢人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/192.wav",
        "text": "原住民受到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/193.wav",
        "text": "原住民文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/194.wav",
        "text": "組織我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/195.wav",
        "text": "這些委員他們的交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/196.wav",
        "text": "需要更多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/197.wav",
        "text": "所以我們讓這些委員等於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/198.wav",
        "text": "有一些支給讓他有薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/199.wav",
        "text": "你現在要把它取消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/200.wav",
        "text": "未來如果換國民黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/201.wav",
        "text": "又要恢復這樣不好看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/202.wav",
        "text": "嘛我覺得這個大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/203.wav",
        "text": "可以再思考一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/204.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/205.wav",
        "text": "要表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/206.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/207.wav",
        "text": "其實我都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/208.wav",
        "text": "國民黨或者民眾黨看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/209.wav",
        "text": "要不要先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/210.wav",
        "text": "組織法第3條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/211.wav",
        "text": "本來是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/212.wav",
        "text": "要把它區分說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/213.wav",
        "text": "是要由山地跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/214.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/215.wav",
        "text": "我一直在想其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/216.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的原住民不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/217.wav",
        "text": "只有山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/218.wav",
        "text": "也不是只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/219.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/220.wav",
        "text": "那現在平埔族你叫他怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/221.wav",
        "text": "你們要尊重我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/222.wav",
        "text": "這樣講就不好了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/223.wav",
        "text": "尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/224.wav",
        "text": "憲法增修條文裡面強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/225.wav",
        "text": "保障原住民族的地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/226.wav",
        "text": "我們在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/227.wav",
        "text": "討論了多少次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/228.wav",
        "text": "在111年做成的憲判字第17號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/229.wav",
        "text": "判決意旨裡面就強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/230.wav",
        "text": "平埔族也應該具有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/231.wav",
        "text": "像鄭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/232.wav",
        "text": "應該我沒有記錯的話是阿美族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/233.wav",
        "text": "嘛你是阿美族的代表阿美族的驕傲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/234.wav",
        "text": "我都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/235.wav",
        "text": "我是被漢人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/236.wav",
        "text": "不然我長得跟你一模一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/237.wav",
        "text": "所以我會覺得再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/238.wav",
        "text": "再討論這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/239.wav",
        "text": "除非你就講說不然你就改成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/240.wav",
        "text": "平埔族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/241.wav",
        "text": "山地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/242.wav",
        "text": "原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/243.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/244.wav",
        "text": "但我又覺得不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/245.wav",
        "text": "裡面刻意去把它做一個分化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/246.wav",
        "text": "這個也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/247.wav",
        "text": "\n我是認為山地原住民有資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/248.wav",
        "text": "來當主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/249.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民當然也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/250.wav",
        "text": "資格來當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/251.wav",
        "text": "平埔族也有資格來當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/252.wav",
        "text": "我這樣認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/253.wav",
        "text": "我可以講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/254.wav",
        "text": "阿美族第一個輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/255.wav",
        "text": "第二個我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/256.wav",
        "text": "不然排灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/257.wav",
        "text": "魯凱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/258.wav",
        "text": "每一個族都把它細分出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/259.wav",
        "text": "這個看起來好像意義不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/260.wav",
        "text": "應該是說只要你是原住民族的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/261.wav",
        "text": "原住民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/262.wav",
        "text": "分就可以來當主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/263.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣會比較好一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/264.wav",
        "text": "因為畢竟不是只有山地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/265.wav",
        "text": "跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/266.wav",
        "text": "還有一個平埔族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/267.wav",
        "text": "除非你認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/268.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭那是亂判的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/269.wav",
        "text": "沒有人敢這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/270.wav",
        "text": "你這樣講就沒道理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/271.wav",
        "text": "那一個判決出來是為了尊重原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/272.wav",
        "text": "基於自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/273.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣也不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/274.wav",
        "text": "\n要請教召委的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/275.wav",
        "text": "我們是一個一個條文來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/276.wav",
        "text": "講到這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/277.wav",
        "text": "我們就直接一起談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/278.wav",
        "text": "對這樣比較有效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/279.wav",
        "text": "那也可以啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/280.wav",
        "text": "如果講到第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/281.wav",
        "text": "至少一人依聘用條例聘用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/282.wav",
        "text": "全部都是無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/283.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的修正條文是連19到29人這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/284.wav",
        "text": "全部都是無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/285.wav",
        "text": "每一個族群至少都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/286.wav",
        "text": "原民委員本來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/287.wav",
        "text": "有給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/288.wav",
        "text": "然後也具備各族群的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/289.wav",
        "text": "來的一定有代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/290.wav",
        "text": "然後搭配專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/291.wav",
        "text": "我一直認為這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/292.wav",
        "text": "非常兩全其美的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/293.wav",
        "text": "就像我們立法院一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/294.wav",
        "text": "每一個政黨有區域立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/295.wav",
        "text": "代表特定區域裡面選民的心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/296.wav",
        "text": "各政黨也會有不分區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/297.wav",
        "text": "民意也兼具各種專"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/298.wav",
        "text": "業很多委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/299.wav",
        "text": "也都有他的專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/300.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/301.wav",
        "text": "麥委員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/302.wav",
        "text": "都有他自己的專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/303.wav",
        "text": "也可以容納多元的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/304.wav",
        "text": "\n我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/305.wav",
        "text": "我都不想陷入原民跟原民委員之間的競爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/306.wav",
        "text": "但是我比較持平的看就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/307.wav",
        "text": "再思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/308.wav",
        "text": "把高度再拉高一點思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/309.wav",
        "text": "倒也不是說每一個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/310.wav",
        "text": "輪流執政要改來改去的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/311.wav",
        "text": "如果現在這個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/312.wav",
        "text": "過去也會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/313.wav",
        "text": "那過去因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/314.wav",
        "text": "我自己執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/315.wav",
        "text": "或者說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/316.wav",
        "text": "有我的人在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/317.wav",
        "text": "我就不講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/318.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有我的人我就講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/319.wav",
        "text": "這也不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/320.wav",
        "text": "國營事業我們很常看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/321.wav",
        "text": "誰當家誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/322.wav",
        "text": "一定會找一個他認為比較合適的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/323.wav",
        "text": "基於權責的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/324.wav",
        "text": "或者說他自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/325.wav",
        "text": "要基於整個責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/326.wav",
        "text": "你就要負這樣的一個政治責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/327.wav",
        "text": "制度計畫跟相關法規的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/328.wav",
        "text": "業務量其實是很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/329.wav",
        "text": "龐大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/330.wav",
        "text": "也需要用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/331.wav",
        "text": "甚至於跟相關機關就原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/332.wav",
        "text": "族事務的先期協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/333.wav",
        "text": "聯繫主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/334.wav",
        "text": "跟參與族群相關的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/335.wav",
        "text": "調查研究協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/336.wav",
        "text": "除非我們發現這個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/337.wav",
        "text": "推舉出來以後他全部都沒事幹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/338.wav",
        "text": "不然光一個主持的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/339.wav",
        "text": "我相信你說無給職也好奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/340.wav",
        "text": "也好奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/341.wav",
        "text": "所以我把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/342.wav",
        "text": "連主持還有出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/343.wav",
        "text": "民俗文化及傳統技藝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/344.wav",
        "text": "藝的慶典跟活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/345.wav",
        "text": "還有辦理主委交辦事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/346.wav",
        "text": "等等這些正職的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/347.wav",
        "text": "這些工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/348.wav",
        "text": "立法委員除了還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/349.wav",
        "text": "一個跑選區以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/350.wav",
        "text": "我相信這些委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/351.wav",
        "text": "其實也都肩負很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/352.wav",
        "text": "所以你說全部要把它變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/353.wav",
        "text": "在場的不同政黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/354.wav",
        "text": "連立法委員你跟他講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/355.wav",
        "text": "你們立法委員全部都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/356.wav",
        "text": "不分區委員一定跟你說我很專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/357.wav",
        "text": "我要勞心我要勞力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/358.wav",
        "text": "我的能力都不輸給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/359.wav",
        "text": "我本身在這4屆裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/360.wav",
        "text": "有2屆是區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/361.wav",
        "text": "接下來2屆是不分區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/362.wav",
        "text": "我也不覺得我擔任不分區委員以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/363.wav",
        "text": "我對整個立法院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/364.wav",
        "text": "所以區域的委員如果主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/365.wav",
        "text": "不分區的委員全部都不給薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/366.wav",
        "text": "我會跟你說你回去睡覺吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/367.wav",
        "text": "你乾脆不要選如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/368.wav",
        "text": "要沒薪水大家都來沒薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/369.wav",
        "text": "讓這些委員本來是有給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/370.wav",
        "text": "後來因為這一些小波折"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/371.wav",
        "text": "我會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/372.wav",
        "text": "有過的地方去改進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/373.wav",
        "text": "像提名的部分不適合的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/374.wav",
        "text": "要挨罵本來就是合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/375.wav",
        "text": "鐧全部都變成無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/376.wav",
        "text": "我看到最後就會有人講乾脆立法委員也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/377.wav",
        "text": "全部都無給職算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/378.wav",
        "text": "不曉得對還是不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/379.wav",
        "text": "提供給大家來做一個參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/380.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得沒有人做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/381.wav",
        "text": "非常盡心盡力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/382.wav",
        "text": "這是我常常在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/383.wav",
        "text": "沒有期待可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/384.wav",
        "text": "也不符合人性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/385.wav",
        "text": "淺見請各位委員來做一個參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/386.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/387.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/388.wav",
        "text": "在每次黨團協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/389.wav",
        "text": "我就希望大家之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/390.wav",
        "text": "那黨團協商基本上就是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/391.wav",
        "text": "交換意見跟立場的平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/392.wav",
        "text": "能夠達成共識是很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/393.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/394.wav",
        "text": "那就沒有辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/395.wav",
        "text": "要不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/396.wav",
        "text": "\n針對有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/397.wav",
        "text": "於原住民族的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/398.wav",
        "text": "們台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/399.wav",
        "text": "去聆聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/400.wav",
        "text": "原住民族朋友的心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/401.wav",
        "text": "跟想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/402.wav",
        "text": "因為我自己不是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/403.wav",
        "text": "有的時候不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/404.wav",
        "text": "表現得太"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/405.wav",
        "text": "就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/406.wav",
        "text": "多聽人家的聲音跟想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/407.wav",
        "text": "這個是我向來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/408.wav",
        "text": "在面對原住民族事務時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/409.wav",
        "text": "一貫的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/410.wav",
        "text": "跟看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/411.wav",
        "text": "\n針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/412.wav",
        "text": "這件事情的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/413.wav",
        "text": "上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/414.wav",
        "text": "在討論條文的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/415.wav",
        "text": "我想某個程度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/416.wav",
        "text": "我的想法跟立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/417.wav",
        "text": "都已經表達得非常清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/418.wav",
        "text": "沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/419.wav",
        "text": "在今天利用這個機會全部重新再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/420.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團有8位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/421.wav",
        "text": "協商要有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/422.wav",
        "text": "但是我也不要先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/423.wav",
        "text": "預設立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/424.wav",
        "text": "我們8位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/425.wav",
        "text": "會很虛心的聆聽各界的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/426.wav",
        "text": "特別是原住民朋友的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/427.wav",
        "text": "的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/428.wav",
        "text": "\n剛好也利用協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/429.wav",
        "text": "這也是我之前在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/430.wav",
        "text": "所關心的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/431.wav",
        "text": "我有比較深的感觸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/432.wav",
        "text": "請原民會的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/433.wav",
        "text": "稍微聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/434.wav",
        "text": "我比較深的感觸是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/435.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/436.wav",
        "text": "不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/437.wav",
        "text": "只有8名委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/438.wav",
        "text": "這8名委員可能在原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/439.wav",
        "text": "的長官眼中看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/440.wav",
        "text": "微不足道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/441.wav",
        "text": "所以對於我們黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/442.wav",
        "text": "你們提供的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/443.wav",
        "text": "你們大概是用最隨便的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/444.wav",
        "text": "來應付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/445.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/446.wav",
        "text": "我第一次請黨團發文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/447.wav",
        "text": "給你們原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/448.wav",
        "text": "結果回我兩張新聞稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/449.wav",
        "text": "我如果要拿新聞稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/450.wav",
        "text": "需要透過黨團發文嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/451.wav",
        "text": "\n我不會google嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/452.wav",
        "text": "我不會上原民會的網站嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/453.wav",
        "text": "為了這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/454.wav",
        "text": "我在內政委員會正式提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/455.wav",
        "text": "跟你們要資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/456.wav",
        "text": "我上質詢臺的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/457.wav",
        "text": "跟你們的主委講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/458.wav",
        "text": "我跟你們索資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/459.wav",
        "text": "你們發兩張新聞稿給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/460.wav",
        "text": "搞到我要到委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/461.wav",
        "text": "去提案要資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/462.wav",
        "text": "讓我覺得很難過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/463.wav",
        "text": "我希望這件事不要再發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/464.wav",
        "text": "那一天主委在備詢臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/465.wav",
        "text": "應該是在內政委員會被質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/466.wav",
        "text": "以後絕對不會再發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/467.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/468.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論第4條的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/469.wav",
        "text": "跟你們要第4條的相關資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/470.wav",
        "text": "我也感謝高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/471.wav",
        "text": "他知道我關心這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/472.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我看到高金委員手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/473.wav",
        "text": "有厚厚一疊的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/474.wav",
        "text": "我看了覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/475.wav",
        "text": "原來是你們只回高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/476.wav",
        "text": "沒有回文給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/477.wav",
        "text": "沒有附件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/478.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/479.wav",
        "text": "感慨很深"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/480.wav",
        "text": "\n我對原民的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/481.wav",
        "text": "在任何議題上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/482.wav",
        "text": "不懂的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/483.wav",
        "text": "我就虛心的聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/484.wav",
        "text": "虛心的學習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/485.wav",
        "text": "希望在立法院行使職權的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/486.wav",
        "text": "能夠做出對原民朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/487.wav",
        "text": "最好的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/488.wav",
        "text": "但是在原民會的眼中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/489.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨可能只是一個小小的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/490.wav",
        "text": "沒有幾席立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/491.wav",
        "text": "所以是用這樣子的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/492.wav",
        "text": "在面對我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/493.wav",
        "text": "讓我的感觸非常非常深"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/494.wav",
        "text": "此而改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/495.wav",
        "text": "我們本來應該有的初衷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/496.wav",
        "text": "在這件事情的決定上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/497.wav",
        "text": "我們會很負責任的聽各界的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/498.wav",
        "text": "做出我們最後投票的決斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/499.wav",
        "text": "我只希望原民會的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/500.wav",
        "text": "在處理一些行政事務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/501.wav",
        "text": "請不要差別待遇得這麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/502.wav",
        "text": "請不要差別待遇得這麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/503.wav",
        "text": "我今天只是剛好在這次協商會議中看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/504.wav",
        "text": "跟協商有關係的基礎資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/505.wav",
        "text": "竟然差別這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/506.wav",
        "text": "至於其他更深層的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/507.wav",
        "text": "我不會在協商的現場講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/508.wav",
        "text": "下一次他到內政委員會備詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/509.wav",
        "text": "我會過去質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/510.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/511.wav",
        "text": "真的有黃國昌委員講的這種事嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/512.wav",
        "text": "我想可能有一點誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/513.wav",
        "text": "因為我們提供給高金委員的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/514.wav",
        "text": "就是高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/515.wav",
        "text": "所要求的相關資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/516.wav",
        "text": "我們都有給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/517.wav",
        "text": "那副本給黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/518.wav",
        "text": "我們就沒有去做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/519.wav",
        "text": "我們都會針對正不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/520.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員對你們這樣的指控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/521.wav",
        "text": "不要說他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/522.wav",
        "text": "如果是我我也受不了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/523.wav",
        "text": "哪有什麼分兩個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/524.wav",
        "text": "你說高金委員跟你要資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/525.wav",
        "text": "你給他完整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/526.wav",
        "text": "這個話要先講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/527.wav",
        "text": "至於黃委員之前要的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/528.wav",
        "text": "是不是在我們提供的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/529.wav",
        "text": "資料不明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/530.wav",
        "text": "在內政委員會已經有向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/531.wav",
        "text": "黃委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/532.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛伍委員有先舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/533.wav",
        "text": "還是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/534.wav",
        "text": "我知道我解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/535.wav",
        "text": "因為現在莊委員也對原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/536.wav",
        "text": "我還原一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/537.wav",
        "text": "我們上一次在這邊協商完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/538.wav",
        "text": "當天黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/539.wav",
        "text": "有回到內政委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/540.wav",
        "text": "去質詢了我們的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/541.wav",
        "text": "他不是公文給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/542.wav",
        "text": "他是直接請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/543.wav",
        "text": "原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/544.wav",
        "text": "提供資料給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/545.wav",
        "text": "而我是公文給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/546.wav",
        "text": "那主委有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/547.wav",
        "text": "在當天的備詢臺上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/548.wav",
        "text": "回應黃國昌委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/549.wav",
        "text": "這是我看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/550.wav",
        "text": "所以我必須要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/551.wav",
        "text": "請莊委員不要生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/552.wav",
        "text": "我另外行文給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/553.wav",
        "text": "是他給我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/554.wav",
        "text": "只是他把給我的副本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/555.wav",
        "text": "再交給黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/556.wav",
        "text": "但是事實上在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/557.wav",
        "text": "開會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/558.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員有質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/559.wav",
        "text": "已經答應他關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/560.wav",
        "text": "關於推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/561.wav",
        "text": "這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/562.wav",
        "text": "是哪幾位推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/563.wav",
        "text": "的他甚至還說行政院有推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/564.wav",
        "text": "所以他問能不能把這個資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/565.wav",
        "text": "全部提供出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/566.wav",
        "text": "為什麼今天黃國昌委員會那麼生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/567.wav",
        "text": "以上是我的補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/568.wav",
        "text": "我可以做補充嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/569.wav",
        "text": "我先回應黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/570.wav",
        "text": "剛剛提到的新聞稿這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/571.wav",
        "text": "黃委員當時要的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/572.wav",
        "text": "有給我們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/573.wav",
        "text": "因為當時主委還在帛琉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/574.wav",
        "text": "擔任特使的新聞稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/575.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/576.wav",
        "text": "另外還有第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/577.wav",
        "text": "剛剛黃委員說我們只給高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/578.wav",
        "text": "沒有給黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/579.wav",
        "text": "主要是因為高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/580.wav",
        "text": "行文跟我們要資料的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/581.wav",
        "text": "有把黃委員辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/582.wav",
        "text": "掛在副本這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/583.wav",
        "text": "但是我們一般處理公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/584.wav",
        "text": "所以回應了高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/585.wav",
        "text": "我們給高金委員的資料就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/586.wav",
        "text": "高金委員要什麼我們大概都給了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/587.wav",
        "text": "另外關於黃委員在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/588.wav",
        "text": "要求主委提供資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/589.wav",
        "text": "我們都會提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/590.wav",
        "text": "我們會提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/591.wav",
        "text": "跟黃國昌委員解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/592.wav",
        "text": "資料補齊給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/593.wav",
        "text": "我想他也不是不講理啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/594.wav",
        "text": "就是你們雙方溝通不要誤會就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/595.wav",
        "text": "好這個部分我們再去跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/596.wav",
        "text": "黃委員辦公室做解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/597.wav",
        "text": "跟說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/598.wav",
        "text": "如果有缺漏的資料我們就再補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/599.wav",
        "text": "對再麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/600.wav",
        "text": "我們下一位請伍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/601.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席大家午安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/602.wav",
        "text": "今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/603.wav",
        "text": "排這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/604.wav",
        "text": "協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/605.wav",
        "text": "組織法是什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/606.wav",
        "text": "公布施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/607.wav",
        "text": "是在十年前103年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/608.wav",
        "text": "因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/609.wav",
        "text": "我也特別去看了當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/610.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/611.wav",
        "text": "今天在場的兩位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/612.wav",
        "text": "──鄭天財委員高金委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/613.wav",
        "text": "都有提案版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/614.wav",
        "text": "按照院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/615.wav",
        "text": "按照委員們的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/616.wav",
        "text": "這樣子通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/617.wav",
        "text": "所以今天十年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/618.wav",
        "text": "回到這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/619.wav",
        "text": "我也很想了解是什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/620.wav",
        "text": "第3條跟第4條的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/621.wav",
        "text": "我就針對第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/622.wav",
        "text": "第4條的每一個修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/623.wav",
        "text": "重點來提出我的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/624.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/625.wav",
        "text": "的第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/626.wav",
        "text": "有三個修正重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/627.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分就是提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/628.wav",
        "text": "主委要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/629.wav",
        "text": "山平原輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/630.wav",
        "text": "其實對我來講我不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/631.wav",
        "text": "接受為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/632.wav",
        "text": "因為我一向主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/633.wav",
        "text": "山平原是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/634.wav",
        "text": "錯誤歷史的殖民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/635.wav",
        "text": "遺緒分類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/636.wav",
        "text": "對我們中華民國這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/637.wav",
        "text": "民主憲政國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/638.wav",
        "text": "其實在我們的憲法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/639.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的一個分類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/640.wav",
        "text": "我就已經覺得很丟臉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/641.wav",
        "text": "了但是很可惜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/642.wav",
        "text": "雖然上次的修憲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/643.wav",
        "text": "有提但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/644.wav",
        "text": "沒有被這樣子認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/645.wav",
        "text": "不過我們會繼續努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/646.wav",
        "text": "所以當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/647.wav",
        "text": "我看到山平原要輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/648.wav",
        "text": "其實它有太多謬誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/649.wav",
        "text": "除了所謂的殖民遺緒分類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/650.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個謬誤之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/651.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要分山平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/652.wav",
        "text": "阿美族有山原也有平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/653.wav",
        "text": "魯凱族也有山原平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/654.wav",
        "text": "那到底為什麼要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/655.wav",
        "text": "山平原輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/656.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得我們倒不如把力氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/657.wav",
        "text": "放在真的我們就把這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/658.wav",
        "text": "這是我的第一個意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/659.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/660.wav",
        "text": "原住民的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/661.wav",
        "text": "鄉長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/662.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/663.wav",
        "text": "好這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/664.wav",
        "text": "已經確定沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/665.wav",
        "text": "那我們就不談了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/666.wav",
        "text": "再來是任期四年的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/667.wav",
        "text": "如果這個第2項沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/668.wav",
        "text": "所以任期四年也沒有了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/669.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/670.wav",
        "text": "任期四年也沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/671.wav",
        "text": "所以只留下山平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/672.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/673.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/674.wav",
        "text": "倒是高金素梅委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/675.wav",
        "text": "我是非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/676.wav",
        "text": "支持認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/677.wav",
        "text": "的因為我向來也主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/678.wav",
        "text": "因為我們原民會其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/679.wav",
        "text": "就是一個小內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/680.wav",
        "text": "其實就是所有部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/681.wav",
        "text": "一直以來如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/682.wav",
        "text": "原民會能夠有所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/683.wav",
        "text": "政委然後兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/684.wav",
        "text": "原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/685.wav",
        "text": "那麼他們就可以去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/686.wav",
        "text": "做一個調度統合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/687.wav",
        "text": "對我們整個原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/688.wav",
        "text": "事務的推動我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/689.wav",
        "text": "會大大的加分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/690.wav",
        "text": "這個部分會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/691.wav",
        "text": "也要連動去修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/692.wav",
        "text": "行政院組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/693.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/694.wav",
        "text": "留給大家討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/695.wav",
        "text": "但是基本上我的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/696.wav",
        "text": "我是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/697.wav",
        "text": "覺得可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/698.wav",
        "text": "一個意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/699.wav",
        "text": "\n關於第4條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/700.wav",
        "text": "我也要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/701.wav",
        "text": "我有特別去翻條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/702.wav",
        "text": "所以我也想聽聽看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/703.wav",
        "text": "103年公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/704.wav",
        "text": "當時我看到這個第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/705.wav",
        "text": "現在的條文就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/706.wav",
        "text": "高金素梅委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/707.wav",
        "text": "也就是院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/708.wav",
        "text": "然後鄭天財委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/709.wav",
        "text": "版本其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/710.wav",
        "text": "更前進的他希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/711.wav",
        "text": "這些族群委員是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/712.wav",
        "text": "簡任十三職等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/713.wav",
        "text": "比現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/714.wav",
        "text": "版本十二職等還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/715.wav",
        "text": "經過了十年是什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/716.wav",
        "text": "我就不予置評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/717.wav",
        "text": "但是我想要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/718.wav",
        "text": "討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/719.wav",
        "text": "因為我很難過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/720.wav",
        "text": "我把這個稱作是自我閹割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/721.wav",
        "text": "像我們跟客委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/722.wav",
        "text": "那些就不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/723.wav",
        "text": "他們是諮詢委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/724.wav",
        "text": "而我最不理解的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/725.wav",
        "text": "我們到底懂不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/726.wav",
        "text": "原住民族族群委員真正的意涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/727.wav",
        "text": "委員會真正的意涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/728.wav",
        "text": "我們原住民族在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/729.wav",
        "text": "未來可能還超越十六族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/730.wav",
        "text": "這麼多的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/731.wav",
        "text": "然後由一個單一族群的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/732.wav",
        "text": "擔任主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/733.wav",
        "text": "而且它還不是真正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/734.wav",
        "text": "所謂的一個委員制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/735.wav",
        "text": "不是由各族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/736.wav",
        "text": "推派代表再由這些代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/737.wav",
        "text": "推舉主委副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/738.wav",
        "text": "我們現在這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/739.wav",
        "text": "一個單一族群的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/740.wav",
        "text": "他要怎麼樣去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/741.wav",
        "text": "全國原住民族族群的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/742.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們才會跟別人不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/743.wav",
        "text": "我們才會有所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/744.wav",
        "text": "有給職的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/745.wav",
        "text": "我不理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/746.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要自我閹割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/747.wav",
        "text": "一方面說我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/748.wav",
        "text": "爭取像是禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/749.wav",
        "text": "原住民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/750.wav",
        "text": "把我們原住民的服務能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/751.wav",
        "text": "這個要對歷史負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/752.wav",
        "text": "我真的不理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/753.wav",
        "text": "我們前面的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/754.wav",
        "text": "這麼辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/755.wav",
        "text": "去弄出這樣的一個組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/756.wav",
        "text": "今天要自我閹割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/757.wav",
        "text": "我是真的不理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/758.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我要特別談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/759.wav",
        "text": "他們是聘用委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/760.wav",
        "text": "我也去調了資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/761.wav",
        "text": "我看到他們的聘書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/762.wav",
        "text": "因為我以前也不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/763.wav",
        "text": "到底族群委員是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/764.wav",
        "text": "怎麼選出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/765.wav",
        "text": "在做哪些事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/766.wav",
        "text": "他們的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/767.wav",
        "text": "還有他們的聘用契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/768.wav",
        "text": "其實都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/769.wav",
        "text": "非常完整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/770.wav",
        "text": "而且我看他們的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/771.wav",
        "text": "手冊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/772.wav",
        "text": "上面還列了一堆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/773.wav",
        "text": "人民團體組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/774.wav",
        "text": "都是他們必須一一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/775.wav",
        "text": "去拜會的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/776.wav",
        "text": "所以他們等於是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/777.wav",
        "text": "在代替我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/778.wav",
        "text": "整個原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/779.wav",
        "text": "去做各地的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/780.wav",
        "text": "工作內容非常的繁雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/781.wav",
        "text": "非常的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/782.wav",
        "text": "主席有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/783.wav",
        "text": "下一次請族群委員來講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/784.wav",
        "text": "因為我也不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/785.wav",
        "text": "到底他們覺得如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/786.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/787.wav",
        "text": "其實上次第一次聽到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/788.wav",
        "text": "我心裡很難過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/789.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/790.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們原住民族人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/791.wav",
        "text": "做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/792.wav",
        "text": "為政府做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/793.wav",
        "text": "我們只能無給職嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/794.wav",
        "text": "我們不配領薪水嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/795.wav",
        "text": "我真的完全不能理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/796.wav",
        "text": "\n再來它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/797.wav",
        "text": "它是一個行政團隊的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/798.wav",
        "text": "我上次也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/799.wav",
        "text": "嚇了一跳說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/800.wav",
        "text": "所以我也特別去調了資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/801.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/802.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/803.wav",
        "text": "高虹安去當了新竹市市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/804.wav",
        "text": "我們看到所有民眾黨的團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/805.wav",
        "text": "也都進去當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/806.wav",
        "text": "幕僚團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/807.wav",
        "text": "那邊有圖卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/808.wav",
        "text": "英九時期的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/809.wav",
        "text": "我也特別去調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/810.wav",
        "text": "了不就是長這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/811.wav",
        "text": "所以我不太理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/812.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/813.wav",
        "text": "去自我毀滅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/814.wav",
        "text": "自我閹割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/815.wav",
        "text": "然後自我矮化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/816.wav",
        "text": "自我汙名化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/817.wav",
        "text": "我真的是沒有辦法理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/818.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天特別到這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/819.wav",
        "text": "來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/820.wav",
        "text": "我們的族群聘用委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/821.wav",
        "text": "確實有他的存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/822.wav",
        "text": "但是更重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/823.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/824.wav",
        "text": "當他是一個行政團隊概念的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/825.wav",
        "text": "我們應該著重的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/826.wav",
        "text": "他的工作態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/827.wav",
        "text": "他的遴選方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/828.wav",
        "text": "還有我們所謂的行政團隊的人才培育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/829.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/830.wav",
        "text": "我有感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/831.wav",
        "text": "受侮辱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/832.wav",
        "text": "我真的覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/833.wav",
        "text": "嚴重受侮辱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/834.wav",
        "text": "真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/835.wav",
        "text": "然後原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/836.wav",
        "text": "自己這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/837.wav",
        "text": "10年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/838.wav",
        "text": "要這樣子自我矮化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/839.wav",
        "text": "自我閹割自我汙名化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/840.wav",
        "text": "真的我不理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/841.wav",
        "text": "所以請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/842.wav",
        "text": "我們就三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/843.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/844.wav",
        "text": "我會再繼續發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/845.wav",
        "text": "首先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/846.wav",
        "text": "對於第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/847.wav",
        "text": "保留鄭天財委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/848.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/849.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/850.wav",
        "text": "或者其實應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/851.wav",
        "text": "更精確來說是翁曉玲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/852.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/853.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/854.wav",
        "text": "由具山原或平原族群身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/855.wav",
        "text": "者輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/856.wav",
        "text": "其實這樣一個想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/857.wav",
        "text": "很容易理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/858.wav",
        "text": "不要說是山原平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/859.wav",
        "text": "在各式各樣的族群當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/860.wav",
        "text": "性別各式各樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/861.wav",
        "text": "可以分類的團體當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/862.wav",
        "text": "都會出現這樣一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/863.wav",
        "text": "要求其實在臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/864.wav",
        "text": "地方選舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/865.wav",
        "text": "地方自治的傳統當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/866.wav",
        "text": "譬如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/867.wav",
        "text": "桃園就有長期以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/868.wav",
        "text": "所謂的閩客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/869.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任縣長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/870.wav",
        "text": "過去這樣的選舉但是它是一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/871.wav",
        "text": "民間透過選民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/872.wav",
        "text": "或者透過候選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/873.wav",
        "text": "自發去形成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/874.wav",
        "text": "如果放在法制化上來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/875.wav",
        "text": "目前我們對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/876.wav",
        "text": "性別主流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/877.wav",
        "text": "也都很清楚的為了避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/878.wav",
        "text": "性別要求平權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/879.wav",
        "text": "我們有任一性別不得少於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/880.wav",
        "text": "三分之一這樣一個規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/881.wav",
        "text": "是在我們國家的法律當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/882.wav",
        "text": "保障單一性別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/883.wav",
        "text": "不至於淪為弱勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/884.wav",
        "text": "我這裡沒有說特定哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/885.wav",
        "text": "性別其實任何一個性別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/886.wav",
        "text": "都有可能除了性別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/887.wav",
        "text": "之外我再說族群好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/888.wav",
        "text": "在我所身處的屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/889.wav",
        "text": "我們有客家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/890.wav",
        "text": "剛好我有一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/891.wav",
        "text": "我父親的身分是客家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/892.wav",
        "text": "也常常有要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/893.wav",
        "text": "南客跟北客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/894.wav",
        "text": "要有均衡的對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/895.wav",
        "text": "翁曉玲委員版跟鄭天財委員版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/896.wav",
        "text": "如果原住民族當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/897.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的確有山原跟平原的分類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/898.wav",
        "text": "所以希望能夠均勻的照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/899.wav",
        "text": "單一族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/900.wav",
        "text": "不被冷落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/901.wav",
        "text": "或不被輕忽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/902.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣的一個思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/903.wav",
        "text": "是非常常見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/904.wav",
        "text": "也可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/905.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我要談的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/906.wav",
        "text": "制度上怎麼去設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/907.wav",
        "text": "我們以性別主流化來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/908.wav",
        "text": "它是以同一時間的委員人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/909.wav",
        "text": "不得少於三分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/910.wav",
        "text": "因為很難剛好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/911.wav",
        "text": "我們都不說兩性了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/912.wav",
        "text": "我們都說性別平權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/913.wav",
        "text": "我們不會說兩性平權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/914.wav",
        "text": "因為現在性別的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/915.wav",
        "text": "都有隨著時代在推移"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/916.wav",
        "text": "至於所謂的南客北客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/917.wav",
        "text": "至於輪流擔任這樣的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/918.wav",
        "text": "會出現一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/919.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講到我們講性別的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/920.wav",
        "text": "它是以同一時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/921.wav",
        "text": "總數的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/922.wav",
        "text": "如果是輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/923.wav",
        "text": "因為考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/924.wav",
        "text": "臺灣目前的設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/925.wav",
        "text": "政務官部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/926.wav",
        "text": "並沒有明確的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/927.wav",
        "text": "他可以做一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/928.wav",
        "text": "也可以做一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/929.wav",
        "text": "甚至有人是做了一輩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/930.wav",
        "text": "就是做到他不能再擔任為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/931.wav",
        "text": "所謂的輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/932.wav",
        "text": "在法律上未來的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/933.wav",
        "text": "還是有可能在時間上呈現出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/934.wav",
        "text": "不能夠均勻的照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/935.wav",
        "text": "相對應的族群身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/936.wav",
        "text": "\n所以如果考量到這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/937.wav",
        "text": "機制設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/938.wav",
        "text": "如果一任兩年或一任四年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/939.wav",
        "text": "比如說現場我們在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/940.wav",
        "text": "有民眾黨的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/941.wav",
        "text": "聽說民眾黨他們的不分區委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/942.wav",
        "text": "是用兩年兩年來做區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/943.wav",
        "text": "如果同一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/944.wav",
        "text": "職缺兩年是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/945.wav",
        "text": "另外兩年是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/946.wav",
        "text": "這個就不是輪流了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/947.wav",
        "text": "這就是明確的把每個人的額份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/948.wav",
        "text": "由於原住民族委員會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/949.wav",
        "text": "的規定如果我們這裡說必須輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/950.wav",
        "text": "那輪流的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/951.wav",
        "text": "一個人兩年嗎一個族群是兩年嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/952.wav",
        "text": "還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/953.wav",
        "text": "還是說前面那個做一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/954.wav",
        "text": "後面那個就不能做超過一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/955.wav",
        "text": "這樣才公平啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/956.wav",
        "text": "所以輪流的概念要達到公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/957.wav",
        "text": "法律上所要求的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/958.wav",
        "text": "均勻對等的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/959.wav",
        "text": "是不容易做到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/960.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議何妨大家思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/961.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/962.wav",
        "text": "目前設主委一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/963.wav",
        "text": "政務副主委兩人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/964.wav",
        "text": "常務副主委一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/965.wav",
        "text": "總共是四位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/966.wav",
        "text": "都是簡任十四職等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/967.wav",
        "text": "或比照簡任十四職等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/968.wav",
        "text": "如果真的要求到均等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/969.wav",
        "text": "同一時間有四位的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/970.wav",
        "text": "是比較容易落實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/971.wav",
        "text": "如果要均勻的對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/972.wav",
        "text": "山原跟平原不同族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/973.wav",
        "text": "都是原住民的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/974.wav",
        "text": "或許不是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/975.wav",
        "text": "輪流這樣不確定的法律概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/976.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼樣在時間上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/977.wav",
        "text": "達到一個公平對待的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/978.wav",
        "text": "不容易操作上會困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/979.wav",
        "text": "如果你們是採取同一個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/980.wav",
        "text": "剛好這最重要的四個職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/981.wav",
        "text": "剛好四位嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/982.wav",
        "text": "然後各一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/983.wav",
        "text": "原當然這裡你會計較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/984.wav",
        "text": "也有主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/985.wav",
        "text": "或許我們理解到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/986.wav",
        "text": "行政院長在提名的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/987.wav",
        "text": "如果有這樣明確的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/988.wav",
        "text": "那麼這或許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/989.wav",
        "text": "也不妨是一個可以落實的法律規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/990.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/991.wav",
        "text": "有兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/992.wav",
        "text": "應該公平對待的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/993.wav",
        "text": "應該在制度上被合理的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/994.wav",
        "text": "這個我覺得是支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/995.wav",
        "text": "但是要怎麼在制度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/996.wav",
        "text": "設計讓它可操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/997.wav",
        "text": "而且要達到可公平的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/998.wav",
        "text": "應該要去慎重考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/999.wav",
        "text": "\n所以這裡請我們原提案人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1000.wav",
        "text": "可以思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1001.wav",
        "text": "真的要做到公平可操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1002.wav",
        "text": "就要避免所謂的輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1003.wav",
        "text": "這種是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1004.wav",
        "text": "很不確定的一種作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1005.wav",
        "text": "這在其他國家或我們國內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1006.wav",
        "text": "的先例都不太容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1007.wav",
        "text": "我別的不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1008.wav",
        "text": "單單是馬來西亞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1009.wav",
        "text": "他們講好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1010.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1011.wav",
        "text": "但是內閣制的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1012.wav",
        "text": "任期沒有一個固定的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1013.wav",
        "text": "所以到底做多久是做完一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1014.wav",
        "text": "就很難判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1015.wav",
        "text": "啦前面一半跟後面一半到底誰先誰後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1016.wav",
        "text": "就造成了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1017.wav",
        "text": "毀棄承諾的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1018.wav",
        "text": "所以再次提醒兩位提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1019.wav",
        "text": "可以思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1020.wav",
        "text": "我講的不是原則的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1021.wav",
        "text": "我講的是如何去落實法律條文的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1022.wav",
        "text": "可以貫徹你要求的一個平等對待的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1023.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1024.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1025.wav",
        "text": "國民黨這邊有沒有要表示什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1026.wav",
        "text": "或民眾黨這邊有沒有要表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1027.wav",
        "text": "或無黨這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1028.wav",
        "text": "高金素梅第一次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1029.wav",
        "text": "我還記得第一次我們做提案說明的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1030.wav",
        "text": "或者在這個地方我們有討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1031.wav",
        "text": "針對第3條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1032.wav",
        "text": "我是尊重也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1033.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1034.wav",
        "text": "但是第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1035.wav",
        "text": "剛剛聽到伍委員在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1036.wav",
        "text": "這麼樣哽咽的說話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1037.wav",
        "text": "其實我都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1038.wav",
        "text": "我們也感到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1039.wav",
        "text": "替他難過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1040.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1041.wav",
        "text": "因為他講得很激動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1042.wav",
        "text": "但是事實上我們都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1043.wav",
        "text": "從部落裡面來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1044.wav",
        "text": "我們也都清楚知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1045.wav",
        "text": "這些族群代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1046.wav",
        "text": "所代表的是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1047.wav",
        "text": "在部落參加什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1048.wav",
        "text": "\n我先請大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1049.wav",
        "text": "所謂的委員權責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1050.wav",
        "text": "它聘用19到29個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1051.wav",
        "text": "我們都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1052.wav",
        "text": "有給薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1053.wav",
        "text": "如果再加上交通費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1054.wav",
        "text": "再加上一些出差費大概有十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1055.wav",
        "text": "我們想想這個十萬以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1056.wav",
        "text": "比部落的文健站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1057.wav",
        "text": "要大學畢業的孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1058.wav",
        "text": "照顧我們部落的族人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1059.wav",
        "text": "他的工作簡直輕鬆很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1060.wav",
        "text": "我們都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1061.wav",
        "text": "我們到婚喪喜慶裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1062.wav",
        "text": "看到的都是族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1063.wav",
        "text": "在那邊講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1064.wav",
        "text": "至於講什麼話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1065.wav",
        "text": "部落裡面也都有錄影回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1066.wav",
        "text": "我本來不覺得這件事情非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1067.wav",
        "text": "自從上次黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1068.wav",
        "text": "他其實非常認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1069.wav",
        "text": "沒有提供給他完整的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1070.wav",
        "text": "請原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1071.wav",
        "text": "裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1072.wav",
        "text": "我先讓大家知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1073.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華委員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1074.wav",
        "text": "只要哪一個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1075.wav",
        "text": "執政了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1076.wav",
        "text": "有他們自己黨員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1077.wav",
        "text": "但是這一大堆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1078.wav",
        "text": "名冊告訴我的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1079.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1080.wav",
        "text": "有15個在我手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1081.wav",
        "text": "太魯閣族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1082.wav",
        "text": "審查名單只有一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1083.wav",
        "text": "不好意思講你的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1084.wav",
        "text": "啦是您的特助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1085.wav",
        "text": "然後是誰推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1086.wav",
        "text": "也是伍麗華委員推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1087.wav",
        "text": "賽德克族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1088.wav",
        "text": "一位當選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1089.wav",
        "text": "誰推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1090.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華委員推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1091.wav",
        "text": "然後推薦的人是誰呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1092.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1093.wav",
        "text": "那富族審查名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1094.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華委員的推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1095.wav",
        "text": "一位當選陳瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1096.wav",
        "text": "推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1097.wav",
        "text": "有七位是民族議會推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1098.wav",
        "text": "審查名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1099.wav",
        "text": "有三位有一位當選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1100.wav",
        "text": "的但也是伍麗華委員推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1101.wav",
        "text": "有四位然後是伍麗華五峰鄉的總召"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1102.wav",
        "text": "當選當然是伍麗華的推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1103.wav",
        "text": "魯凱族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1104.wav",
        "text": "有兩位民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1105.wav",
        "text": "原民部督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1106.wav",
        "text": "然後誰推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1107.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華委員推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1108.wav",
        "text": "有兩位身分別是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1109.wav",
        "text": "民進黨蘭嶼聯絡站的總站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1110.wav",
        "text": "也是伍麗華委員推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1111.wav",
        "text": "阿美族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1112.wav",
        "text": "不要講名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1113.wav",
        "text": "陳瑩服務處的處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1114.wav",
        "text": "是陳瑩推薦的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1115.wav",
        "text": "曾經的身分是伍麗華"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1116.wav",
        "text": "然後也是伍麗華委員推薦的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1117.wav",
        "text": "然後是陳瑩委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1118.wav",
        "text": "推薦的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1119.wav",
        "text": "提供的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1120.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1121.wav",
        "text": "在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1122.wav",
        "text": "質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1123.wav",
        "text": "問主委主委沒有參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1124.wav",
        "text": "是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1125.wav",
        "text": "這個不是我編出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1126.wav",
        "text": "你們待會可以回去看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1127.wav",
        "text": "就是哪一位委員推薦的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1128.wav",
        "text": "他相關的職務都在上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1129.wav",
        "text": "這是助理整理出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1130.wav",
        "text": "\n然後我們來看一下這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1131.wav",
        "text": "應該要做些什麼事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1132.wav",
        "text": "事實上19到29位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1133.wav",
        "text": "民族議會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1134.wav",
        "text": "不要忘記我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1135.wav",
        "text": "有民族部落議會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1136.wav",
        "text": "員必須要有一些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1137.wav",
        "text": "部落的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1138.wav",
        "text": "接到很多部落跟我反映"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1139.wav",
        "text": "在部落中形成一個很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1140.wav",
        "text": "衝突啦為什麼是他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1141.wav",
        "text": "大家就說既然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1142.wav",
        "text": "既然以後這個族群委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1143.wav",
        "text": "他要跟部落很相近"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1144.wav",
        "text": "而且他要推廣所有的文化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1145.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是從部落"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1146.wav",
        "text": "再由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1147.wav",
        "text": "我們推薦幾位然後再"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1148.wav",
        "text": "出來而不是某某"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1149.wav",
        "text": "人推薦他就上了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1150.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛有講到他領的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1151.wav",
        "text": "薪資大概十萬塊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1152.wav",
        "text": "左右這對一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1153.wav",
        "text": "部落裡面的年輕人來說相對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1154.wav",
        "text": "的剝奪感其實是蠻重的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1155.wav",
        "text": "\n他要做什麼事情呢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1156.wav",
        "text": "第一他要出席本會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1157.wav",
        "text": "本會相關的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1158.wav",
        "text": "業務改進意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1159.wav",
        "text": "要有這三種"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1160.wav",
        "text": "依聘用人員聘用條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1161.wav",
        "text": "聘用的委員除了前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1162.wav",
        "text": "外他要依照主任委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1163.wav",
        "text": "的指派辦理下面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1164.wav",
        "text": "的事項有八項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1165.wav",
        "text": "很多真的是蠻辛苦的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1166.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1167.wav",
        "text": "重要的議案要先"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1168.wav",
        "text": "期審查例如"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1169.wav",
        "text": "土海法原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1170.wav",
        "text": "還沒有送出來他們可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1171.wav",
        "text": "副主委現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1172.wav",
        "text": "這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1173.wav",
        "text": "有參與這樣重要的會議嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1174.wav",
        "text": "就我了解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1175.wav",
        "text": "這些跟法案有關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1176.wav",
        "text": "無給職沒有領薪水"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1177.wav",
        "text": "的專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1178.wav",
        "text": "在參加族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1179.wav",
        "text": "委員幾乎是沒有參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1180.wav",
        "text": "政策制度計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1181.wav",
        "text": "還有方案的先期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1182.wav",
        "text": "審查有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1183.wav",
        "text": "第三原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1184.wav",
        "text": "相關法規的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1185.wav",
        "text": "先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1186.wav",
        "text": "第四相關機關原住民族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1187.wav",
        "text": "事務之先期協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1188.wav",
        "text": "還有聯繫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1189.wav",
        "text": "第五主持或出席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1190.wav",
        "text": "專案小組的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1191.wav",
        "text": "或參與與族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1192.wav",
        "text": "相關的會議調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1193.wav",
        "text": "研究跟協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1194.wav",
        "text": "第七參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1195.wav",
        "text": "族群歲時祭儀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1196.wav",
        "text": "民俗文化及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1197.wav",
        "text": "傳統技藝展演慶典"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1198.wav",
        "text": "或活動第八其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1199.wav",
        "text": "交代事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1200.wav",
        "text": "也整理了一下沒有全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1201.wav",
        "text": "整理大概整理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1202.wav",
        "text": "一下聘用委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1203.wav",
        "text": "叫誰我就不講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1204.wav",
        "text": "他參加公祭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1205.wav",
        "text": "6個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1206.wav",
        "text": "出差公祭12個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1207.wav",
        "text": "小時某個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1208.wav",
        "text": "參加公祭8個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1209.wav",
        "text": "某個委員參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1210.wav",
        "text": "結婚歸寧典禮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1211.wav",
        "text": "8個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1212.wav",
        "text": "某個委員參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1213.wav",
        "text": "某個委員參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1214.wav",
        "text": "結婚典禮8個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1215.wav",
        "text": "某個委員參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1216.wav",
        "text": "某位老夫人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1217.wav",
        "text": "公祭8個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1218.wav",
        "text": "這我才只是整理了一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1219.wav",
        "text": "這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1220.wav",
        "text": "每個月領將近十萬塊的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1221.wav",
        "text": "他做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1222.wav",
        "text": "他的權責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1223.wav",
        "text": "時並沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1224.wav",
        "text": "他參加重要議案的先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1225.wav",
        "text": "或者是原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1226.wav",
        "text": "政策制度計畫方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1227.wav",
        "text": "的先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1228.wav",
        "text": "還有相關法規的先期審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1229.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有提供給我說他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1230.wav",
        "text": "有參加這樣子的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1231.wav",
        "text": "最重要的是他們上下班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1232.wav",
        "text": "不用打卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1233.wav",
        "text": "他們去哪裡參加婚宴就可以去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1234.wav",
        "text": "\n當然我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1235.wav",
        "text": "原住民的選區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1236.wav",
        "text": "非常的大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1237.wav",
        "text": "如果我要到一個部落去參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1238.wav",
        "text": "要花很長的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1239.wav",
        "text": "但那不應該是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1240.wav",
        "text": "族群委員該做的事情吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1241.wav",
        "text": "族群委員要做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1242.wav",
        "text": "既然你講是跟文化族群"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1243.wav",
        "text": "部落裡面的連結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1244.wav",
        "text": "那麼重要的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1245.wav",
        "text": "推了這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1246.wav",
        "text": "你們都還說部落還有意見呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1247.wav",
        "text": "如果這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1248.wav",
        "text": "都不把土海法自治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1249.wav",
        "text": "跟部落裡面的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1250.wav",
        "text": "討論清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1251.wav",
        "text": "那我們要族群委員幹什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1252.wav",
        "text": "族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1253.wav",
        "text": "最重要的是他對部落的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1254.wav",
        "text": "第一要很熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1255.wav",
        "text": "第二他對他的文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1256.wav",
        "text": "要很了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1257.wav",
        "text": "第三他要被這個族群認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1258.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1259.wav",
        "text": "就應該參"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1260.wav",
        "text": "相關的部落會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1261.wav",
        "text": "當然部落分散在很多的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1262.wav",
        "text": "比如說排灣族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1263.wav",
        "text": "有分南排灣北排灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1264.wav",
        "text": "也有住臺東的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1265.wav",
        "text": "這個時候原民會是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1266.wav",
        "text": "部落族人推薦的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1267.wav",
        "text": "一起拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1268.wav",
        "text": "然後按照他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1269.wav",
        "text": "在部落裡面的貢獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1270.wav",
        "text": "原民會還記得113年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1271.wav",
        "text": "我就讓你們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1272.wav",
        "text": "你們到現在一直都沒有修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1273.wav",
        "text": "所以這也是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1274.wav",
        "text": "我這次提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1275.wav",
        "text": "既然我們的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1276.wav",
        "text": "造成部落上相對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1277.wav",
        "text": "年輕人被剝奪感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1278.wav",
        "text": "那麼嚴重而且造成部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1279.wav",
        "text": "裡面內部紛爭的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1280.wav",
        "text": "你為什麼不要把遴選制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1281.wav",
        "text": "再做得更好一點呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1282.wav",
        "text": "請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1283.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1284.wav",
        "text": "這一堆名單裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1285.wav",
        "text": "難怪部落裡面的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1286.wav",
        "text": "紛紛一直在投訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1287.wav",
        "text": "不只投訴我這邊還投訴到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1288.wav",
        "text": "不是原住民委員的辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1289.wav",
        "text": "所以黃國昌委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1290.wav",
        "text": "拿到那麼多的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1291.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我再講今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1292.wav",
        "text": "不是說我們在對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1293.wav",
        "text": "個別的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1294.wav",
        "text": "做一些攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1295.wav",
        "text": "我們是就事論事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1296.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1297.wav",
        "text": "如果今天原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1298.wav",
        "text": "你有意要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1299.wav",
        "text": "你覺得我講的是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1300.wav",
        "text": "你們要來修改這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1301.wav",
        "text": "遴選制度辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1302.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也想聽聽看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1303.wav",
        "text": "啊是不是他就跟專家學者一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1304.wav",
        "text": "呢他是榮譽職的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1305.wav",
        "text": "呢他有來參加會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1306.wav",
        "text": "我們就給他交通費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1307.wav",
        "text": "呢這樣子是不是相對剝奪感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1308.wav",
        "text": "會少一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1309.wav",
        "text": "呢是不是113年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1310.wav",
        "text": "啊然後原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1311.wav",
        "text": "甚至於就在備詢臺上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1312.wav",
        "text": "很清楚講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1313.wav",
        "text": "只有一張紙在他桌上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1314.wav",
        "text": "你回去調資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1315.wav",
        "text": "你回去調資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1316.wav",
        "text": "這個原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1317.wav",
        "text": "在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1318.wav",
        "text": "裡面的說法你都可以去調資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1319.wav",
        "text": "當時我聽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1320.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌聽了我們都嚇了一大跳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1321.wav",
        "text": "只有一張紙在你桌上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1322.wav",
        "text": "啊整個遴聘的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1323.wav",
        "text": "你都沒有參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1324.wav",
        "text": "他啞口無言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1325.wav",
        "text": "啊所以上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1326.wav",
        "text": "不是您來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1327.wav",
        "text": "谷縱上一次是鍾副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1328.wav",
        "text": "到底這個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1329.wav",
        "text": "是鍾副主委還是您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1330.wav",
        "text": "到底你們兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1331.wav",
        "text": "是誰分派這個業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1332.wav",
        "text": "待會也可以回答一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1333.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1334.wav",
        "text": "說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1335.wav",
        "text": "族群委員的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1336.wav",
        "text": "伍委員聽清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1337.wav",
        "text": "不是103年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1338.wav",
        "text": "民國85年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1339.wav",
        "text": "民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1340.wav",
        "text": "法律的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1341.wav",
        "text": "的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1342.wav",
        "text": "是用組織規程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1343.wav",
        "text": "所以也沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1344.wav",
        "text": "族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1345.wav",
        "text": "是民國85年之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1346.wav",
        "text": "我們的前輩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1347.wav",
        "text": "蔡中涵立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1348.wav",
        "text": "的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1349.wav",
        "text": "以前是組織條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1350.wav",
        "text": "組織條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1351.wav",
        "text": "的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1352.wav",
        "text": "就是列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1353.wav",
        "text": "族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1354.wav",
        "text": "然後103年做什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1355.wav",
        "text": "是因為所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1356.wav",
        "text": "組織條例都要改為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1357.wav",
        "text": "組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1358.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1359.wav",
        "text": "原民會當初有4個處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1360.wav",
        "text": "我們增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1361.wav",
        "text": "2個處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1362.wav",
        "text": "主要的條文是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1363.wav",
        "text": "因為要把組織條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1364.wav",
        "text": "全部要改為組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1365.wav",
        "text": "這是整個立法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1366.wav",
        "text": "這是行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1367.wav",
        "text": "政策方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1368.wav",
        "text": "然後我們一再的爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1369.wav",
        "text": "要把原住民文化園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1370.wav",
        "text": "維持局的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1371.wav",
        "text": "地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1372.wav",
        "text": "但是沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1373.wav",
        "text": "因為那時候已經限縮在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1374.wav",
        "text": "70個裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1375.wav",
        "text": "當初的目的是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1376.wav",
        "text": "所以不是103年才開始的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1377.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1378.wav",
        "text": "民國85年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1379.wav",
        "text": "我們的前輩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1380.wav",
        "text": "這幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1381.wav",
        "text": "看了我們的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1382.wav",
        "text": "在部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1383.wav",
        "text": "在原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1384.wav",
        "text": "我們那個前輩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1385.wav",
        "text": "也常常去原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1386.wav",
        "text": "他對我們的族群委員跟以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1387.wav",
        "text": "真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1388.wav",
        "text": "差之千里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1389.wav",
        "text": "他也非常搖頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1390.wav",
        "text": "加上剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1391.wav",
        "text": "高金委員所陳述的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1392.wav",
        "text": "各族群的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1393.wav",
        "text": "各部落的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1394.wav",
        "text": "我也接到很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1395.wav",
        "text": "這樣的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1396.wav",
        "text": "所以我上次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1397.wav",
        "text": "在司法及法制委員會審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1398.wav",
        "text": "你們兩位沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1399.wav",
        "text": "我那時候也說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1400.wav",
        "text": "我們要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1401.wav",
        "text": "有給職變成無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1402.wav",
        "text": "我們也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1403.wav",
        "text": "很難過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1404.wav",
        "text": "但是不得不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1405.wav",
        "text": "還不如把這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1406.wav",
        "text": "多少的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1407.wav",
        "text": "一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1408.wav",
        "text": "八萬多塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1409.wav",
        "text": "整個族群委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1410.wav",
        "text": "一年要100多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1411.wav",
        "text": "原民會的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1412.wav",
        "text": "職員人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1413.wav",
        "text": "我跟高金委員當初"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1414.wav",
        "text": "提了附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1415.wav",
        "text": "最少要195人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1416.wav",
        "text": "104年就達到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1417.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1418.wav",
        "text": "最高要達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1419.wav",
        "text": "280人隨著預算的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1420.wav",
        "text": "原民會的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1421.wav",
        "text": "114年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1422.wav",
        "text": "這些基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1423.wav",
        "text": "單位預算還有文健站的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1424.wav",
        "text": "把這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1425.wav",
        "text": "全部的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1426.wav",
        "text": "改列為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1427.wav",
        "text": "16乘以2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1428.wav",
        "text": "最起碼有三十幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1429.wav",
        "text": "職員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1430.wav",
        "text": "現在原民會的職員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1431.wav",
        "text": "非常的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1432.wav",
        "text": "增加了這麼多的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1433.wav",
        "text": "然後人力都沒有增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1434.wav",
        "text": "還維持在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1435.wav",
        "text": "當初希望能夠達到280人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1436.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分從104年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1437.wav",
        "text": "一直到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1438.wav",
        "text": "預算成長這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1439.wav",
        "text": "但是人員職員那麼少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1440.wav",
        "text": "人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1441.wav",
        "text": "就是沒有辦法增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1442.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1443.wav",
        "text": "我們希望族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1444.wav",
        "text": "既然已經沒有展現出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1445.wav",
        "text": "我們的前輩當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1446.wav",
        "text": "立法的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1447.wav",
        "text": "譬如我舉個例子部落公法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1448.wav",
        "text": "原民會就可以定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1449.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1450.wav",
        "text": "可是我們的族群委員就沒有反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1451.wav",
        "text": "類似像這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1452.wav",
        "text": "為什麼原住民族自治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1453.wav",
        "text": "這八年來沒有辦法送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1454.wav",
        "text": "原住民族土地及海域法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1455.wav",
        "text": "八年來沒有辦法送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1456.wav",
        "text": "這是唯一八年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1457.wav",
        "text": "沒有送來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1458.wav",
        "text": "其他的陳水扁總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1459.wav",
        "text": "馬英九總統都有送來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1460.wav",
        "text": "都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1461.wav",
        "text": "連提案都沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1462.wav",
        "text": "有這個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1463.wav",
        "text": "顯然已經失去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1464.wav",
        "text": "我們的鄉親說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1465.wav",
        "text": "他怎麼代表主委去參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1466.wav",
        "text": "婚喪喜慶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1467.wav",
        "text": "族群委員的工作是這些嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1468.wav",
        "text": "真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1469.wav",
        "text": "我們一般的鄉親"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1470.wav",
        "text": "就覺得很納悶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1471.wav",
        "text": "很忍痛的來提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1472.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1473.wav",
        "text": "是有這樣一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1474.wav",
        "text": "\n另外山原跟平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1475.wav",
        "text": "因為已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1476.wav",
        "text": "實施這麼多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1477.wav",
        "text": "你要把它不分難啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1478.wav",
        "text": "已經很難了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1479.wav",
        "text": "伍委員你已經有經歷過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1480.wav",
        "text": "上次你提地方制度法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1481.wav",
        "text": "要把它不分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1482.wav",
        "text": "結果遇到很多的攔阻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1483.wav",
        "text": "很多的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1484.wav",
        "text": "問題很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1485.wav",
        "text": "會影響很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1486.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1487.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1488.wav",
        "text": "高金素梅委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1489.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1490.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛伍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1491.wav",
        "text": "伍委員先舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1492.wav",
        "text": "那麻煩讓伍委員先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1493.wav",
        "text": "我先及早澄清下面的對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1494.wav",
        "text": "會比較容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1495.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛聽完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1496.wav",
        "text": "我旁邊的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1497.wav",
        "text": "也聽不下去就離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1498.wav",
        "text": "了因為他們說留給原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1499.wav",
        "text": "委員自己講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1500.wav",
        "text": "很難看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1501.wav",
        "text": "在這邊的對談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1502.wav",
        "text": "竟然是暴露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1503.wav",
        "text": "我一直很納悶為什麼要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1504.wav",
        "text": "不是只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1505.wav",
        "text": "我納悶很多人都納悶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1506.wav",
        "text": "原來還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1507.wav",
        "text": "我來說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1508.wav",
        "text": "聽到前面那一些話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1509.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1510.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1511.wav",
        "text": "我就講黃國昌上次也給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1512.wav",
        "text": "造謠那個看板的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1513.wav",
        "text": "我再說明一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1514.wav",
        "text": "我們作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1515.wav",
        "text": "一個行政團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1516.wav",
        "text": "大家都是立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1517.wav",
        "text": "我們都有推薦的資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1518.wav",
        "text": "但是我一個一個講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1519.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1520.wav",
        "text": "我也要來問原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1521.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼給資料的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1522.wav",
        "text": "謝垂耀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1523.wav",
        "text": "是拉阿魯哇族的領袖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1524.wav",
        "text": "開會把名單報給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1525.wav",
        "text": "我轉給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1526.wav",
        "text": "怎麼就變成是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1527.wav",
        "text": "推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1528.wav",
        "text": "上次爆發那個記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1529.wav",
        "text": "我去問區長怎麼回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1530.wav",
        "text": "丟臉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1531.wav",
        "text": "的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1532.wav",
        "text": "我真的要講嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1533.wav",
        "text": "第一個有前科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1534.wav",
        "text": "第二個有前科第三個有瑕疵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1535.wav",
        "text": "最後一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1536.wav",
        "text": "搞了老半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1537.wav",
        "text": "他說家裡有事不能來報到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1538.wav",
        "text": "這樣也賴到我頭上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1539.wav",
        "text": "由他們的大老"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1540.wav",
        "text": "前任的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1541.wav",
        "text": "開會推舉出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1542.wav",
        "text": "布農族的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1543.wav",
        "text": "也是透過地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1544.wav",
        "text": "推薦出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1545.wav",
        "text": "更扯的是鄒族的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1546.wav",
        "text": "是翁章梁縣長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1547.wav",
        "text": "親自寫推薦函的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1548.wav",
        "text": "最後每個都變成是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1549.wav",
        "text": "我們拿出去給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1550.wav",
        "text": "你們還要篩選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1551.wav",
        "text": "啊你們有審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1552.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會給的資料是我呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1553.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1554.wav",
        "text": "我想知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1555.wav",
        "text": "怎麼一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1556.wav",
        "text": "跟我們調相關的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1557.wav",
        "text": "那我們提供給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1558.wav",
        "text": "這些資料部落自己也可以給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1559.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一定要透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1560.wav",
        "text": "某委員才能夠給呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1561.wav",
        "text": "如果按照他這麼講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1562.wav",
        "text": "你們以前沒有推薦過嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1563.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要在這邊讓人家看笑話嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1564.wav",
        "text": "如果部落真的有推薦人的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1565.wav",
        "text": "部落不會自己給原民會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1566.wav",
        "text": "一定要透過某個委員嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1567.wav",
        "text": "憲法都有保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1568.wav",
        "text": "我們的主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1569.wav",
        "text": "我們的院長有任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1570.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要管到這麼細嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1571.wav",
        "text": "你們不是有一個審查委員會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1572.wav",
        "text": "不就應該要把關嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1573.wav",
        "text": "伍委員先不要生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1574.wav",
        "text": "我們先釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1575.wav",
        "text": "喔我現在聽了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1576.wav",
        "text": "我們把它釐清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1577.wav",
        "text": "偷抱走的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1578.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1579.wav",
        "text": "更侮辱人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1580.wav",
        "text": "主席我強烈要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1581.wav",
        "text": "請邀請這些族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1582.wav",
        "text": "來這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1583.wav",
        "text": "說明我覺得他們應該都願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1584.wav",
        "text": "族群委員到底做什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1585.wav",
        "text": "我們我們在部落都看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1586.wav",
        "text": "天啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1587.wav",
        "text": "來你現在告訴我是哪一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1588.wav",
        "text": "哪一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1589.wav",
        "text": "你去翻他們的資料吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1590.wav",
        "text": "你去翻他們的資料吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1591.wav",
        "text": "是哪一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1592.wav",
        "text": "你不能這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1593.wav",
        "text": "隨便誣衊他們的人格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1594.wav",
        "text": "搞不好他們很認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1595.wav",
        "text": "去翻資料好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1596.wav",
        "text": "先緩一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1597.wav",
        "text": "副主委有沒有辦法解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1598.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1599.wav",
        "text": "比較多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1600.wav",
        "text": "有些是透過民族議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1601.wav",
        "text": "有一些是各界推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1602.wav",
        "text": "我們還有幾個都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1603.wav",
        "text": "民族議會推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1604.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員你唸到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1605.wav",
        "text": "卑南族那就是民族議會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1606.wav",
        "text": "還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1607.wav",
        "text": "賽夏族賽德克"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1608.wav",
        "text": "都是民族議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1609.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1610.wav",
        "text": "民族議會推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1611.wav",
        "text": "三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1612.wav",
        "text": "賽夏族賽德克"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1613.wav",
        "text": "卑南族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1614.wav",
        "text": "我認為既然有審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1615.wav",
        "text": "的委員制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1616.wav",
        "text": "都沒有這些疑慮了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1617.wav",
        "text": "否則要審查委員幹什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1618.wav",
        "text": "每天在那邊毀憲亂政亂七八糟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1619.wav",
        "text": "對這些都不是高金委員想要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1620.wav",
        "text": "的所以他生氣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1621.wav",
        "text": "如果大家多元推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1622.wav",
        "text": "我可以再繼續報告嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1623.wav",
        "text": "剛剛幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1624.wav",
        "text": "委員有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1625.wav",
        "text": "譬如出席委員會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1626.wav",
        "text": "針對重要議案的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1627.wav",
        "text": "剛剛高金委員提到他們有參加嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1628.wav",
        "text": "我向大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1629.wav",
        "text": "部落防減災會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1630.wav",
        "text": "出席的就有七位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1631.wav",
        "text": "另外我們的人體研究計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1632.wav",
        "text": "取得原住民族同意的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1633.wav",
        "text": "在要點裡有規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1634.wav",
        "text": "同不同意關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1635.wav",
        "text": "原住民人體研究計畫的通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1636.wav",
        "text": "我們每個族群委員都有認養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1637.wav",
        "text": "所以有些會議都會找他們參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1638.wav",
        "text": "來說從9月聘用到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1639.wav",
        "text": "他們參加的會議會勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1640.wav",
        "text": "與活動到現在已經有189場次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1641.wav",
        "text": "大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1642.wav",
        "text": "主委指示辦理的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1643.wav",
        "text": "真是莫名其妙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1644.wav",
        "text": "是因為你們原民會人手不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1645.wav",
        "text": "才要他們去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1646.wav",
        "text": "我想我們遴選的時候都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1647.wav",
        "text": "去部落問問看吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1648.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1649.wav",
        "text": "對於原住民事務既然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1650.wav",
        "text": "總召已經發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1651.wav",
        "text": "所以本來是想不用發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1652.wav",
        "text": "的但剛才伍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1653.wav",
        "text": "點名到我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1654.wav",
        "text": "是為促進族群公平代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1655.wav",
        "text": "代表並保障山地和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1656.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1657.wav",
        "text": "平等權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1658.wav",
        "text": "平地都能有族群代表發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1659.wav",
        "text": "油沒錯我們講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1660.wav",
        "text": "油油這是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1661.wav",
        "text": "剛才講推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1662.wav",
        "text": "都是你的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1663.wav",
        "text": "從我們收到的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1664.wav",
        "text": "來看推薦的都是你的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1665.wav",
        "text": "或行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1666.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以用自己的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1667.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1668.wav",
        "text": "就像行政院裡的所有部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1669.wav",
        "text": "我對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1670.wav",
        "text": "我當然要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1671.wav",
        "text": "我當立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1672.wav",
        "text": "我問的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1673.wav",
        "text": "請尊重拿麥克風的人好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1674.wav",
        "text": "我講話你尊重好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1675.wav",
        "text": "\n我當立法委員我跟你平起平坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1676.wav",
        "text": "我憑我的本事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1677.wav",
        "text": "不是你給的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1678.wav",
        "text": "所以現在要聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1679.wav",
        "text": "講完就換你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1680.wav",
        "text": "我在講的時候你不要插嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1681.wav",
        "text": "這個是禮貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1682.wav",
        "text": "連禮貌都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1683.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我就跟你講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1684.wav",
        "text": "你說我們的新竹市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1685.wav",
        "text": "有權力給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1686.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1687.wav",
        "text": "但是你是市長嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1688.wav",
        "text": "\n我看到都是你推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1689.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以你比喻這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1690.wav",
        "text": "就變成說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1691.wav",
        "text": "你比喻說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1692.wav",
        "text": "因為他是市長他推薦的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1693.wav",
        "text": "在他的市府裡面很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1694.wav",
        "text": "都是民眾黨的他有權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1695.wav",
        "text": "覺得這個人有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1696.wav",
        "text": "是能用的人我就推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1697.wav",
        "text": "嘛對不對行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1698.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣嘛我能用的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1699.wav",
        "text": "我就去推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1700.wav",
        "text": "嘛今天還有人講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1701.wav",
        "text": "當總統的時候行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1702.wav",
        "text": "也用國民黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1703.wav",
        "text": "對不對所以呢我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1704.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1705.wav",
        "text": "族群不包含哪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1706.wav",
        "text": "無黨籍有黨籍都可以推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1707.wav",
        "text": "裡面不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1708.wav",
        "text": "部落的人不同族群的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1709.wav",
        "text": "當委員我們是認同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1710.wav",
        "text": "我們是覺得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1711.wav",
        "text": "但是你這樣比喻我又"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1712.wav",
        "text": "看到所有都是你的推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1713.wav",
        "text": "所以我才覺得你這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1714.wav",
        "text": "的比喻的話我就覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1715.wav",
        "text": "\n市長本來就有這個權力嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1716.wav",
        "text": "行政院長就有這個權力嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1717.wav",
        "text": "當然是用自己的黨優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1718.wav",
        "text": "選擇嘛所以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1719.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1720.wav",
        "text": "委員現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1721.wav",
        "text": "委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1722.wav",
        "text": "也是無給職的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1723.wav",
        "text": "所以現在從頭到尾我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1724.wav",
        "text": "聽的是我們不否認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1725.wav",
        "text": "委員有薪水但是他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1726.wav",
        "text": "工作要到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1727.wav",
        "text": "這樣子對我們的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1728.wav",
        "text": "比較有幫助對他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1729.wav",
        "text": "職責也有貢獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1730.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我聽起來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1731.wav",
        "text": "希望這樣你們也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1732.wav",
        "text": "這樣子嘛對不對他們也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1733.wav",
        "text": "這樣子所以不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1734.wav",
        "text": "說用了沒有選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1735.wav",
        "text": "\n就像現在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1736.wav",
        "text": "新住民委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1737.wav",
        "text": "還有我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1738.wav",
        "text": "移民署的委員會所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1739.wav",
        "text": "的推薦各個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1740.wav",
        "text": "單位透過民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1741.wav",
        "text": "透過各個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1742.wav",
        "text": "去推薦我們內政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1743.wav",
        "text": "部長要一一的去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1744.wav",
        "text": "甄選去選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1745.wav",
        "text": "不是每個人推薦都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1746.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我們希望的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1747.wav",
        "text": "要用的人每一個部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1748.wav",
        "text": "都有人才希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1749.wav",
        "text": "這個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1750.wav",
        "text": "有能力去貢獻的我們希望的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1751.wav",
        "text": "這樣所以我聽起來是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1752.wav",
        "text": "我們希望說你不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1753.wav",
        "text": "拿這個比喻來去用這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1754.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是有落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1755.wav",
        "text": "啦所以不是說因為我看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1756.wav",
        "text": "別人\n你剛才講的是他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1757.wav",
        "text": "提供的資料有誤差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1758.wav",
        "text": "有可能但是我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1759.wav",
        "text": "的是這樣啊看到給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1760.wav",
        "text": "的就是這樣的名單嘛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1761.wav",
        "text": "所以我們覺得你又"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1762.wav",
        "text": "比喻說這樣所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1763.wav",
        "text": "應該你是市長了所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1764.wav",
        "text": "你推薦都上所以你"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1765.wav",
        "text": "覺得能用的都是你推薦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1766.wav",
        "text": "的所以我覺得你比喻就等於"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1767.wav",
        "text": "說你當市長有這樣子推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1768.wav",
        "text": "的權力了嘛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1769.wav",
        "text": "這個就是我們要說明的以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1770.wav",
        "text": "是主席各位委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1771.wav",
        "text": "我這邊第一次發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1772.wav",
        "text": "修原住民族委員會組織法的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1773.wav",
        "text": "第3條及第4條尤其在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1774.wav",
        "text": "第4條的部分我認為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1775.wav",
        "text": "的政黨性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1776.wav",
        "text": "光是這樣一個委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1777.wav",
        "text": "聘了這麼多的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1778.wav",
        "text": "委員在其他的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1779.wav",
        "text": "像客家委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1780.wav",
        "text": "相當多的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1781.wav",
        "text": "無給職其實是沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1782.wav",
        "text": "必要要聘成是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1783.wav",
        "text": "專任職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1784.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊當然也肯定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1785.wav",
        "text": "可能也對於各族群"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1786.wav",
        "text": "多有貢獻"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1787.wav",
        "text": "但是如果從制度面上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1788.wav",
        "text": "應該是採取鼓勵"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1789.wav",
        "text": "然後大家熱心奉獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1790.wav",
        "text": "來講的話他們也是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1791.wav",
        "text": "支領車馬費出席費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1792.wav",
        "text": "所以實際上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1793.wav",
        "text": "沒有必要以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1794.wav",
        "text": "專任有給職聘任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1795.wav",
        "text": "這麼高的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1796.wav",
        "text": "是聘21人到27人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1797.wav",
        "text": "但是都是無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1798.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我認為其實是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1799.wav",
        "text": "合理的所以從制度上面來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1800.wav",
        "text": "現在原住民族委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1801.wav",
        "text": "的委員19人到29人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1802.wav",
        "text": "改為無給職我認為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1803.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1804.wav",
        "text": "有這個必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1805.wav",
        "text": "現階段我們所看到的整個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1806.wav",
        "text": "委員的遴聘制度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1807.wav",
        "text": "確實也出了很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1808.wav",
        "text": "問題不論是從推薦的程序"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1809.wav",
        "text": "資格的審查專業能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1810.wav",
        "text": "等種種方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1811.wav",
        "text": "以及他的代表性其實都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1812.wav",
        "text": "沒有一個適當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1813.wav",
        "text": "規範整個規範就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1814.wav",
        "text": "太寬鬆太粗糙可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1815.wav",
        "text": "只是需要具備原住民的身分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1816.wav",
        "text": "然後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1817.wav",
        "text": "有一些什麼所謂的專門"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1818.wav",
        "text": "知能條件熱心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1819.wav",
        "text": "公益聲譽卓著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1820.wav",
        "text": "這樣子就可以來擔任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1821.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會的委員代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1822.wav",
        "text": "來看確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1823.wav",
        "text": "在遴選制度上不盡合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1824.wav",
        "text": "再加上我們如果跟其他的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1825.wav",
        "text": "委員會相比較來說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1826.wav",
        "text": "確實是沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1827.wav",
        "text": "用有給職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1828.wav",
        "text": "聘任的方式來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1829.wav",
        "text": "遴選這批委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1830.wav",
        "text": "機關的標準應該是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1831.wav",
        "text": "委員都是採無給職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1832.wav",
        "text": "所以原住民族委員會的族群委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1833.wav",
        "text": "其實也應該要採無給職才是合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1834.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1835.wav",
        "text": "陳瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1836.wav",
        "text": "有關於第3條的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1837.wav",
        "text": "我就簡單補充"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1838.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1839.wav",
        "text": "我就提出一些疑慮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1840.wav",
        "text": "來參與協商的委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1841.wav",
        "text": "及立法院很多的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1842.wav",
        "text": "立委同仁可能不清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1843.wav",
        "text": "在我們16族當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1844.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們大致"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1845.wav",
        "text": "區分了山原平原"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1846.wav",
        "text": "但是我舉例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1847.wav",
        "text": "譬如以排灣族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1848.wav",
        "text": "來講曾智勇主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1849.wav",
        "text": "來自屏東他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1850.wav",
        "text": "是山地原住民但是我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1851.wav",
        "text": "也有一群排灣族的朋友"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1852.wav",
        "text": "在臺東是平地原住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1853.wav",
        "text": "魯凱族也有相同"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1854.wav",
        "text": "的狀況當然"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1855.wav",
        "text": "甚至幾乎都是平地原住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1856.wav",
        "text": "的阿美族也有少數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1857.wav",
        "text": "在旭海的是山地原住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1858.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在各族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1859.wav",
        "text": "裡面其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1860.wav",
        "text": "都有就是大致上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1861.wav",
        "text": "可能是平原或山原"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1862.wav",
        "text": "但是其中有少數像泰雅族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1863.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣大部分是山原"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1864.wav",
        "text": "但是他們在南庄的泰雅族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1865.wav",
        "text": "卻是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1866.wav",
        "text": "滿尊敬佩服鄭天財委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1867.wav",
        "text": "因為在我們所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1868.wav",
        "text": "原住民立委當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1869.wav",
        "text": "他是法學素養最深厚的一位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1870.wav",
        "text": "還有他提出的修法一定有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1871.wav",
        "text": "的意義未必是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1872.wav",
        "text": "大家從這個文字上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1873.wav",
        "text": "看得出來的所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1874.wav",
        "text": "我第一個要提醒的就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1875.wav",
        "text": "山原跟平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1876.wav",
        "text": "如果今天我們按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1877.wav",
        "text": "版本修法成功之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1878.wav",
        "text": "做完了下次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1879.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民但是是排灣族的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1880.wav",
        "text": "然後他做完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1881.wav",
        "text": "又輪回去山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1882.wav",
        "text": "又是排灣族然後再回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1883.wav",
        "text": "又是排灣族又是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1884.wav",
        "text": "原這樣也是合乎我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1885.wav",
        "text": "但是可能大家就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1886.wav",
        "text": "覺得在族群上是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1887.wav",
        "text": "可以平衡一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1888.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1889.wav",
        "text": "修法還是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1890.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為要回歸擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1891.wav",
        "text": "原民會的主任委員其實就跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1892.wav",
        "text": "各部會首長一樣最重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1893.wav",
        "text": "什麼未必是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1894.wav",
        "text": "身分正確當然這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1895.wav",
        "text": "很重要的因素但是我想能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1896.wav",
        "text": "也是不可或缺是大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1897.wav",
        "text": "要去考量的\n所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1898.wav",
        "text": "在修法的同時大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1899.wav",
        "text": "忽略了能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1900.wav",
        "text": "這件事情我剛剛提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1901.wav",
        "text": "也希望大家能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1902.wav",
        "text": "考量進去大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1903.wav",
        "text": "也學習一下因為我看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1904.wav",
        "text": "應該也不知道原來我們山原跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1905.wav",
        "text": "平原的區分當中有這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1906.wav",
        "text": "族其實中間還夾帶了那麼一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1907.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1908.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我就做這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1909.wav",
        "text": "的提醒還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1910.wav",
        "text": "希望最好是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1911.wav",
        "text": "回歸到原住民族有能力的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1912.wav",
        "text": "我想這個可能是最理想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1913.wav",
        "text": "的\n再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1914.wav",
        "text": "我坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1915.wav",
        "text": "一開始我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1916.wav",
        "text": "第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1917.wav",
        "text": "看到黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1918.wav",
        "text": "這麼溫柔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1919.wav",
        "text": "這麼心平氣和地講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1920.wav",
        "text": "然後我也很感動因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1921.wav",
        "text": "他說他自己不是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1922.wav",
        "text": "他就覺得他要多聆聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1923.wav",
        "text": "我希望他再多聆聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1924.wav",
        "text": "很可惜他走了我也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1925.wav",
        "text": "他能夠聽到我講這段話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1926.wav",
        "text": "他在多聆聽的同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1927.wav",
        "text": "也不要偏聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1928.wav",
        "text": "對他講完就走了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1929.wav",
        "text": "\n平常有時候我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1930.wav",
        "text": "在議場我也想走過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1931.wav",
        "text": "跟他聊兩句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1932.wav",
        "text": "因為最近我們也在討論禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1933.wav",
        "text": "還有很多原住民的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1934.wav",
        "text": "但是因為曾經我親眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1935.wav",
        "text": "目睹我們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1936.wav",
        "text": "女同事走去前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1937.wav",
        "text": "也是很客氣跟他講幾句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1938.wav",
        "text": "忽然他就咆哮起來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1939.wav",
        "text": "所以我就很怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1940.wav",
        "text": "我也是想去跟他溝通幾句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1941.wav",
        "text": "但是我又很怕他一咆哮起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1942.wav",
        "text": "口水也是會亂噴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1943.wav",
        "text": "所以他今天講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1944.wav",
        "text": "我就斗膽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1945.wav",
        "text": "也回應一下黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1946.wav",
        "text": "在質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1947.wav",
        "text": "提到的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1948.wav",
        "text": "族群委員的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1949.wav",
        "text": "一片綠油油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1950.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1951.wav",
        "text": "甚至在他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1952.wav",
        "text": "寫上了我的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1953.wav",
        "text": "說某人是我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1954.wav",
        "text": "處長之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1955.wav",
        "text": "我想我今天也藉著這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1956.wav",
        "text": "我們就這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1957.wav",
        "text": "來好好討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1958.wav",
        "text": "就是這一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1959.wav",
        "text": "候選人還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1960.wav",
        "text": "他的經歷以及推薦人是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1961.wav",
        "text": "你們這份資料其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1962.wav",
        "text": "真的是不精確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1963.wav",
        "text": "還真是不精確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1964.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1965.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛看到一個很好笑的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1966.wav",
        "text": "我覺得伍麗華委員你也真倒楣喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1967.wav",
        "text": "賽夏族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1968.wav",
        "text": "他們有民族議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1969.wav",
        "text": "這幾個候選人有民族議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1970.wav",
        "text": "推薦還有之前的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1971.wav",
        "text": "然後但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1972.wav",
        "text": "這次聘用的是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1973.wav",
        "text": "嘛然後裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1974.wav",
        "text": "當然也有提到我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1975.wav",
        "text": "一兩個我有推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1976.wav",
        "text": "沒錯但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1977.wav",
        "text": "可能到處拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1978.wav",
        "text": "那個名單到處飛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1979.wav",
        "text": "我不知道有沒有去哪個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1980.wav",
        "text": "委員那邊可能也去了伍麗華那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1981.wav",
        "text": "可能也來了我這邊但是我們接到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1982.wav",
        "text": "陳情禮貌上一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1983.wav",
        "text": "這是人之常情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1984.wav",
        "text": "但是我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1985.wav",
        "text": "我就覺得很好笑我說伍麗華你真倒楣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1986.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1987.wav",
        "text": "再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1988.wav",
        "text": "我要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1989.wav",
        "text": "的問題以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1990.wav",
        "text": "我還真是不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1991.wav",
        "text": "因為以前長期國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1992.wav",
        "text": "執政的年代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1993.wav",
        "text": "我先講我自己好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1994.wav",
        "text": "因為我被黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1995.wav",
        "text": "點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1996.wav",
        "text": "其中有一位擔任過我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1997.wav",
        "text": "服務處的處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1998.wav",
        "text": "我想黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/1999.wav",
        "text": "的質詢內容也印證了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2000.wav",
        "text": "一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2001.wav",
        "text": "他不是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2002.wav",
        "text": "他真的還不了解這其中的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2003.wav",
        "text": "一些細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2004.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2005.wav",
        "text": "那一位被他點名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2006.wav",
        "text": "族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2007.wav",
        "text": "是主委跟我借將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2008.wav",
        "text": "因為他的經歷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2009.wav",
        "text": "我要講一下一個族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2010.wav",
        "text": "原民會待過3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2011.wav",
        "text": "在縣政府待過9年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2012.wav",
        "text": "也擔任過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2013.wav",
        "text": "地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2014.wav",
        "text": "各級民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2015.wav",
        "text": "一直到中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2016.wav",
        "text": "從地方議員乃至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2017.wav",
        "text": "省議員還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2018.wav",
        "text": "立法委員的助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2019.wav",
        "text": "主委需要幫忙他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2020.wav",
        "text": "剛當主委想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2021.wav",
        "text": "借用這位族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2022.wav",
        "text": "的經歷我想這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2023.wav",
        "text": "人之常情因為人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2024.wav",
        "text": "我也是很捨不得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2025.wav",
        "text": "但是主委要借將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2026.wav",
        "text": "那我就借給他嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2027.wav",
        "text": "再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2028.wav",
        "text": "我想這些經歷應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2029.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員他沒有好好去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2030.wav",
        "text": "掌握的所以他才會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2031.wav",
        "text": "講出什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2032.wav",
        "text": "酬庸啊什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2033.wav",
        "text": "綠油油啊然後到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2034.wav",
        "text": "綠油油我倒是要看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2035.wav",
        "text": "我們看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2036.wav",
        "text": "那個年代好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2037.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2038.wav",
        "text": "現在遇到一個比較麻煩的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2039.wav",
        "text": "說他要離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2040.wav",
        "text": "這樣打斷我他要離開是他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2041.wav",
        "text": "事今天已經排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2042.wav",
        "text": "不是你先聽我講完嘛你先聽我講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2043.wav",
        "text": "我不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2044.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天是協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2045.wav",
        "text": "麥委員如果離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2046.wav",
        "text": "了三黨就變成少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2047.wav",
        "text": "一個依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2048.wav",
        "text": "那叫黃國昌回來啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2049.wav",
        "text": "有一個不出席的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2050.wav",
        "text": "就變成這個協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2051.wav",
        "text": "好不好你就讓我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2052.wav",
        "text": "多坐幾分鐘我很快就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2053.wav",
        "text": "完因為我要講重點卻被打斷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2054.wav",
        "text": "提醒一下有這個狀況因為他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2055.wav",
        "text": "如果一離開少一個黨就變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2056.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的協商不成立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2057.wav",
        "text": "我只是要提醒這件事並不是由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2058.wav",
        "text": "主席決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2059.wav",
        "text": "那我還是把我的意見講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2060.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝麥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2061.wav",
        "text": "PowerPoint上這樣會比較清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2062.wav",
        "text": "出來就藍吱吱嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2063.wav",
        "text": "那剛剛還有Show的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2064.wav",
        "text": "新竹市那邊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2065.wav",
        "text": "那個叫什麼白蒼蒼啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2066.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2067.wav",
        "text": "都是一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2068.wav",
        "text": "都是一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2069.wav",
        "text": "你們不要插嘴嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2070.wav",
        "text": "叫人家要有禮貌你自己卻沒禮貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2071.wav",
        "text": "很奇怪啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2072.wav",
        "text": "在你刮別人鬍子之前你先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2073.wav",
        "text": "把自己的鬍子刮乾淨麻煩你閉嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2074.wav",
        "text": "那你要做好榜樣嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2075.wav",
        "text": "讓我學嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2076.wav",
        "text": "我們讓陳瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2077.wav",
        "text": "發言完畢好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2078.wav",
        "text": "我們讓陳瑩委員發言完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2079.wav",
        "text": "來看一下在馬英九"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2080.wav",
        "text": "執政的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2081.wav",
        "text": "好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2082.wav",
        "text": "哎呀你們就叫黃國昌委員講嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2083.wav",
        "text": "對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2084.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2085.wav",
        "text": "你要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2086.wav",
        "text": "你要講就自己講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2087.wav",
        "text": "不用在這裡好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2088.wav",
        "text": "躲在後面然後叫別人出頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2089.wav",
        "text": "大家看一下嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2090.wav",
        "text": "一樣啊我剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2091.wav",
        "text": "不要打斷我好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2092.wav",
        "text": "你們都可以講為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2093.wav",
        "text": "因為今天是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2094.wav",
        "text": "今天是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2095.wav",
        "text": "那協商還是要把話講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2096.wav",
        "text": "所以我一直希望大家好好談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2097.wav",
        "text": "因為他們如果一離席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2098.wav",
        "text": "一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2099.wav",
        "text": "不是人家穿著你的背心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2100.wav",
        "text": "他是冒牌的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2101.wav",
        "text": "他是冒牌的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2102.wav",
        "text": "你現在跟他切割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2103.wav",
        "text": "我不會切割我不像你我不會切割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2104.wav",
        "text": "有事你就切割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2105.wav",
        "text": "主席我們不要在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2106.wav",
        "text": "吵架好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2107.wav",
        "text": "不要吵架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2108.wav",
        "text": "像我以前的助理他也離職了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2109.wav",
        "text": "而且是主委借將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2110.wav",
        "text": "那你那個是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2111.wav",
        "text": "我很尊重那一位議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2112.wav",
        "text": "他人非常nice"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2113.wav",
        "text": "他也非常的虔誠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2114.wav",
        "text": "我對他一點意見都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2115.wav",
        "text": "你們全部過去那麼多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2116.wav",
        "text": "那麼多人擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2117.wav",
        "text": "到底是誰推薦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2118.wav",
        "text": "也有孔文吉委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2119.wav",
        "text": "你們可以點名為什麼我們就不能點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2120.wav",
        "text": "不是我們現在已經離題了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2121.wav",
        "text": "哪有什麼離題就是在這邊講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2122.wav",
        "text": "看對這兩條有沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2123.wav",
        "text": "這兩條有沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2124.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識的話就送院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2125.wav",
        "text": "是誰先離題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2126.wav",
        "text": "讓他講完啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2127.wav",
        "text": "等一下一定沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2128.wav",
        "text": "那你們一直在插話幹什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2129.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有插話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2130.wav",
        "text": "你們每個人都全部講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2131.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我講到一半就要一直被插話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2132.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的協商會議就談不下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2133.wav",
        "text": "所以我一直希望大家能夠好好的談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2134.wav",
        "text": "對尤其你也已經談很久了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2135.wav",
        "text": "很多次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2136.wav",
        "text": "我哪有很多次我第一次發言好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2137.wav",
        "text": "我們可不可以回到法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2138.wav",
        "text": "高金講很久都沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2139.wav",
        "text": "你們一直在講第4條的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2140.wav",
        "text": "不要針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2141.wav",
        "text": "我們也沒有針對在審查族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2142.wav",
        "text": "你已經點名那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2143.wav",
        "text": "你還說沒針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2144.wav",
        "text": "我們是把原民會的資料拿出來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2145.wav",
        "text": "我沒有講某個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2146.wav",
        "text": "你沒有你最有啦你都躲在後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2147.wav",
        "text": "我們希望原民會把制度改一改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2148.wav",
        "text": "主席我們現在可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2149.wav",
        "text": "我建議讓那個發言的把它完整講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2150.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識就沒共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2151.wav",
        "text": "好那那一天那個卑南族的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2152.wav",
        "text": "他是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2153.wav",
        "text": "他是阿忠的表哥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2154.wav",
        "text": "阿忠是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2155.wav",
        "text": "你旁邊那一位的誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2156.wav",
        "text": "那是不是陳瑩委員趕快發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2157.wav",
        "text": "談完如果真的沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2158.wav",
        "text": "我良心建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2159.wav",
        "text": "沒有擇期我們要送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2160.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識就送院長協商了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2161.wav",
        "text": "也不一定要直接送啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2162.wav",
        "text": "因為這個很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2163.wav",
        "text": "翁委員不一定啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2164.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照程序這樣啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2165.wav",
        "text": "莊委員你要擇期的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2166.wav",
        "text": "也必須其他兩黨都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2167.wav",
        "text": "現在就是莊委員有這樣的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2168.wav",
        "text": "不知道民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2169.wav",
        "text": "和國民黨這邊是否同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2170.wav",
        "text": "那莊委員他們不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2171.wav",
        "text": "對因為這個要他們兩邊同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2172.wav",
        "text": "那就看大家的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2173.wav",
        "text": "給院長擇期協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2174.wav",
        "text": "送院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2175.wav",
        "text": "我再補充一件事不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2176.wav",
        "text": "重要資訊潘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2177.wav",
        "text": "潘禎祥代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2178.wav",
        "text": "前代表他是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2179.wav",
        "text": "您的支持者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2180.wav",
        "text": "我也曾經推薦過他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2181.wav",
        "text": "我推薦了他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2182.wav",
        "text": "但是他拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2183.wav",
        "text": "因為他說民進黨執政他不要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2184.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2185.wav",
        "text": "有這種事你可以去問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2186.wav",
        "text": "這個跟條文沒有直接關係不是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2187.wav",
        "text": "但是他們提這個法案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2188.wav",
        "text": "他們提這個法案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2189.wav",
        "text": "那就看照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2190.wav",
        "text": "回到制度面啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2191.wav",
        "text": "看名單和照片就知道我看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2192.wav",
        "text": "因為大家沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2193.wav",
        "text": "主席我剛講那個是很中性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2194.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2195.wav",
        "text": "我講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2196.wav",
        "text": "所謂的擇期也沒有誰同不同意的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2197.wav",
        "text": "就是送給院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2198.wav",
        "text": "院長有可能交付你再重新協商那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2199.wav",
        "text": "都不一定好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2200.wav",
        "text": "因為大家今天的討論是沒有共識嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2201.wav",
        "text": "我們都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2202.wav",
        "text": "沒有制止誰讓大家充分表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2203.wav",
        "text": "也已經快兩個小時了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2204.wav",
        "text": "是不是說因為各黨團的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2205.wav",
        "text": "是不一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2206.wav",
        "text": "那我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2207.wav",
        "text": "沒有就是到我這邊一直斷掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2208.wav",
        "text": "一直插話很煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2209.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2210.wav",
        "text": "發言的內容都有錄音錄影"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2211.wav",
        "text": "要繼續溝通取得共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2212.wav",
        "text": "那是不是我們就依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2213.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法第十二章的規定辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2214.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2215.wav",
        "text": "對就是讓院長去召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2216.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2217.wav",
        "text": "好那今天就這樣不好意思因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2218.wav",
        "text": "一個半小時了大家沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2219.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2220.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位那就散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16237/2221.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/0.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/1.wav",
        "text": "因為時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/2.wav",
        "text": "國發基金投入是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/3.wav",
        "text": "成了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/4.wav",
        "text": "我想這個可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/5.wav",
        "text": "員會可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/6.wav",
        "text": "不當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/7.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分我也想講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/8.wav",
        "text": "我們有罪因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/9.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/10.wav",
        "text": "個對大家不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/11.wav",
        "text": "除台積電的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16230/12.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/0.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝各位黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/1.wav",
        "text": "代表出席今天的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/2.wav",
        "text": "是1時30分開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/3.wav",
        "text": "我先介紹一下今天在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/4.wav",
        "text": "黨團代表的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/5.wav",
        "text": "首先是中國國民黨的鄭正鈐委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/6.wav",
        "text": "也非常歡迎鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/7.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的代表張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/8.wav",
        "text": "也非常感謝民主進步黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/9.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/10.wav",
        "text": "首先介紹的是國發會主委劉鏡清主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/11.wav",
        "text": "以及國家發展基金管理委員會的執行秘書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/12.wav",
        "text": "汪庭安執行秘書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/13.wav",
        "text": "其他還有一些組長署長副組長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/14.wav",
        "text": "歡迎不一一介紹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/15.wav",
        "text": "主要是要處理台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/16.wav",
        "text": "為了要合理監督國發基金使用規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/17.wav",
        "text": "確實了解國家產業發展策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/18.wav",
        "text": "跟投資的評估保障納稅人的權益與國家的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/19.wav",
        "text": "建請院會作成以下的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/20.wav",
        "text": "成立『國家發展基金不當投資暨管理失職調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/21.wav",
        "text": "』要求國家發展委員會及行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/22.wav",
        "text": "國家發展基金管理會等有關機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/23.wav",
        "text": "就特定議案涉及事項提供相關調查資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/24.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法第59條之1舉行聽證會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/25.wav",
        "text": "以落實國會監督保障納稅人之權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/26.wav",
        "text": "這個案子經由113年7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/27.wav",
        "text": "立法院第11屆第1會期第22次院會決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/28.wav",
        "text": "交付黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/29.wav",
        "text": "由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/30.wav",
        "text": "那我們首先是不是可以先請提案的黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/31.wav",
        "text": "說明是不是由台灣民眾黨黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/32.wav",
        "text": "先跟其他的黨團說明一下提案旨趣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/33.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要談的是人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/34.wav",
        "text": "我們台灣民眾黨做的統計發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/35.wav",
        "text": "國發基金最近這幾年投資的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/36.wav",
        "text": "差不多有超過一半是嚴重虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/37.wav",
        "text": "例如2017年投資如興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/38.wav",
        "text": "2018年投資聯合再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/39.wav",
        "text": "2019年投資東貝光電科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/40.wav",
        "text": "現在國發基金好像變成是一個紓困的基金了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/41.wav",
        "text": "尤有甚者如興還出現了坑殺投資人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/42.wav",
        "text": "還有中國製造產品出現在我們的軍事要塞這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/43.wav",
        "text": "所以現在看起來國發基金問題一大堆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/44.wav",
        "text": "包括我們台灣民眾黨開了好幾次的記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/45.wav",
        "text": "還有包括投資零日攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/46.wav",
        "text": "前幾天大家一直在討論說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/47.wav",
        "text": "國發基金投資了零日攻擊這部影片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/48.wav",
        "text": "投資了4,170萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/49.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止決策方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/50.wav",
        "text": "都沒有一個好好的交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/51.wav",
        "text": "我發現在國發基金審查的過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/52.wav",
        "text": "很多委員都是請假的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/53.wav",
        "text": "然後過程裡面看起來黑箱也滿多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/54.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛提到的光是如興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/55.wav",
        "text": "後來被發現洗錢洗到大陸去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/56.wav",
        "text": "然後聯合再生不只採取了中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/57.wav",
        "text": "還裝設在蘭陽指揮部跟國防大學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/58.wav",
        "text": "東貝在108年投資的時候不到兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/59.wav",
        "text": "就因為嚴重的虧損導致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/60.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們鄭重地提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/61.wav",
        "text": "調查權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/62.wav",
        "text": "建議院會作成決議成立國家發展基金不當投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/63.wav",
        "text": "暨管理失職調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/64.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛只是臚列了四個重要的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/65.wav",
        "text": "還有非常多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/66.wav",
        "text": "問題第一個是不是在審查的過程裡面有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/67.wav",
        "text": "可能有一些問題要怎麼精進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/68.wav",
        "text": "這是一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/69.wav",
        "text": "第二個剛剛講的在這個過程裡面虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/70.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/71.wav",
        "text": "甚至發生了弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/72.wav",
        "text": "我們很期待朝野能夠一心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/73.wav",
        "text": "把人民的納稅錢看緊而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/74.wav",
        "text": "既然是國家發展基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/75.wav",
        "text": "就應該是對國家發展有用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/76.wav",
        "text": "我們希望把這個虧損的問題可以解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/77.wav",
        "text": "把裡面的弊案可以查清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/78.wav",
        "text": "所以建請大家可以強烈地來支持這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/79.wav",
        "text": "早一點成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/80.wav",
        "text": "今天不要變成好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/81.wav",
        "text": "又等於要各說各話又要送交表決好像也不見得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/82.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠期待的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/83.wav",
        "text": "今天或許大家可以在委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/84.wav",
        "text": "這次的朝野協商有一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/85.wav",
        "text": "我們早一點在院會成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/86.wav",
        "text": "國家發展基金不當投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/87.wav",
        "text": "暨管理失職調查委員會謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/88.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/89.wav",
        "text": "\n我補充介紹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/90.wav",
        "text": "歡迎中國國民黨的張嘉郡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/91.wav",
        "text": "郡委員也來出席這一場黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/92.wav",
        "text": "\n那接下來我們是不是請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/93.wav",
        "text": "中國國民黨的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/94.wav",
        "text": "不曉得哪一位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/95.wav",
        "text": "主席所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/96.wav",
        "text": "秘我想說我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/97.wav",
        "text": "國發基金不當投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/98.wav",
        "text": "暨管理失職調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/99.wav",
        "text": "我覺得其實是有它的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/100.wav",
        "text": "說實話劉主委上來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/101.wav",
        "text": "我知道現在對於整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/102.wav",
        "text": "國發基金的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/103.wav",
        "text": "有趨嚴的一個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/104.wav",
        "text": "可是其實我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/105.wav",
        "text": "監察院在112年1月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/106.wav",
        "text": "才對東貝和如興兩家上市公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/107.wav",
        "text": "廣大股民受損一事提出糾正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/108.wav",
        "text": "監察院也直接提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/109.wav",
        "text": "國發會有五大缺失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/110.wav",
        "text": "包括一政策評估會議不公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/111.wav",
        "text": "沒有留錄音發言紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/112.wav",
        "text": "缺乏評估依據及過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/113.wav",
        "text": "三決策軌跡及可課責之內控機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/114.wav",
        "text": "付諸闕如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/115.wav",
        "text": "四盡職調查及企業價值評鑑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/116.wav",
        "text": "未確實執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/117.wav",
        "text": "五忽視外聘專家學者警示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/118.wav",
        "text": "所以簡單來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/119.wav",
        "text": "這五個裡面就特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/120.wav",
        "text": "在審這個案子的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/121.wav",
        "text": "外聘專家就已經提出了警告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/122.wav",
        "text": "可是國發會充耳不聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/123.wav",
        "text": "然後又沒有保存發言的紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/124.wav",
        "text": "作為事後課責的一個基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/125.wav",
        "text": "坦白說我有注意到另外一個個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/126.wav",
        "text": "就是兆遠案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/127.wav",
        "text": "兆遠案就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/128.wav",
        "text": "國發基金從第一次的政策評估到會議通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/129.wav",
        "text": "決定投資只花三個月的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/130.wav",
        "text": "有要求國發基金要有一席董事跟一席獨董"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/131.wav",
        "text": "結果兆遠拿了錢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/132.wav",
        "text": "什麼都沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/133.wav",
        "text": "拖了一年多之後才讓董事進駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/134.wav",
        "text": "在進駐的同時還宣布了減資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/135.wav",
        "text": "57.97%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/136.wav",
        "text": "所以等於是拿了國發基金的錢進去之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/137.wav",
        "text": "國發基金什麼都還沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/138.wav",
        "text": "將近50%左右的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/139.wav",
        "text": "在兩年之後再次減資50.05%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/140.wav",
        "text": "就是國發基金投資了三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/141.wav",
        "text": "遇到了兩次減資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/142.wav",
        "text": "就直接虧損了80%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/143.wav",
        "text": "然後1.6億的公帑就這樣不見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/144.wav",
        "text": "我就發現在經濟委員會會議中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/145.wav",
        "text": "我們曾經要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/146.wav",
        "text": "拿到一些當時審這個案子的細部資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/147.wav",
        "text": "其實也沒有辦法取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/148.wav",
        "text": "當時只是說有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/149.wav",
        "text": "體質很好的大公司環球晶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/150.wav",
        "text": "晶也投入了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/151.wav",
        "text": "環球晶投入跟我們國發基金投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/152.wav",
        "text": "是不是就是一樣的1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/153.wav",
        "text": "1的條件就可以直接去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/154.wav",
        "text": "我們不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/155.wav",
        "text": "重點是我後來才發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/156.wav",
        "text": "國發會在長期虧損的列管表當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/157.wav",
        "text": "兆遠竟然已經變成了一個正常戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/158.wav",
        "text": "我們虧損了80%之後它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/159.wav",
        "text": "它變成正常戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/160.wav",
        "text": "為什麼變成正常戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/161.wav",
        "text": "是因為環球晶把它併購了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/162.wav",
        "text": "這樣子莫名其妙走下來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/163.wav",
        "text": "我們就損失了這麼多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/164.wav",
        "text": "然後感覺好像就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/165.wav",
        "text": "那我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/166.wav",
        "text": "都能夠有更好的performance"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/167.wav",
        "text": "國發基金某一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/168.wav",
        "text": "有創投的概念在裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/169.wav",
        "text": "不能說有創投"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/170.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/171.wav",
        "text": "希望成立國發基金的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/172.wav",
        "text": "不當投資暨管理失職調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/173.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/174.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝鄭正鈐委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/175.wav",
        "text": "民主進步黨黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/176.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/177.wav",
        "text": "憲判字第9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/178.wav",
        "text": "跟立法院行使法律案或預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/179.wav",
        "text": "的特定議案有重大關聯的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/180.wav",
        "text": "當然民眾黨提案有列舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/181.wav",
        "text": "但是憲判字第9號提出之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/182.wav",
        "text": "未來這樣的調查委員會是由院會來成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/183.wav",
        "text": "這大概是制度上的一個改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/184.wav",
        "text": "因為過去是由委員會來成立調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/185.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的具體建議是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/186.wav",
        "text": "可以由韓國瑜院長秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/187.wav",
        "text": "討論未來這樣的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/188.wav",
        "text": "或者是未來這樣的委員會如何運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/189.wav",
        "text": "我想這個可能有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/190.wav",
        "text": "院會層級的調查委員會要如何來運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/191.wav",
        "text": "是不是有待由我們韓院長來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/192.wav",
        "text": "之後再來討論未來立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/193.wav",
        "text": "所成立的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/194.wav",
        "text": "因為這個是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/195.wav",
        "text": "如同我剛剛所說的好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/196.wav",
        "text": "好所以民主進步黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/197.wav",
        "text": "蔡委員的立場是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/198.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有贊成也沒有反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/199.wav",
        "text": "主要的意思是希望由韓國瑜院長來召集協商是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/200.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯因為調查委員會的部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/201.wav",
        "text": "所以未來整個成立的條件是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/202.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/203.wav",
        "text": "然後要來成立這樣的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/204.wav",
        "text": "OK基本上我主持協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/205.wav",
        "text": "時我的立場都跟以前一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/206.wav",
        "text": "雖然對這件事情我自己有非常強烈的意見跟看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/207.wav",
        "text": "但在主席的位置上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/208.wav",
        "text": "我把自己強烈的意見跟看法都保留在自己心中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/209.wav",
        "text": "不太適合在主席的位置上面做太強烈的宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/210.wav",
        "text": "只不過是說跟協商有關係的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/211.wav",
        "text": "還是要跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/212.wav",
        "text": "目前由台灣民眾黨黨團所成立的國發基金的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/213.wav",
        "text": "的確就是在院會的層級下面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/214.wav",
        "text": "的確就是在院會的層級下面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/215.wav",
        "text": "我們要設這個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/216.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是院會層級沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/217.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分今天之所以會召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/218.wav",
        "text": "其實也不是我們吃飽太閒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/219.wav",
        "text": "沒有事要找事做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/220.wav",
        "text": "因為這個就是經由院會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/221.wav",
        "text": "交由台灣民眾黨黨團來負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/222.wav",
        "text": "那既然是院會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/223.wav",
        "text": "那我們就要執行院會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/224.wav",
        "text": "所以今天也非常感謝三個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/225.wav",
        "text": "都派了代表來出席這一場協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/226.wav",
        "text": "當然三個黨團的代表都輪流發言過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/227.wav",
        "text": "但今天還有其他的委員也很關心所以來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/228.wav",
        "text": "那我是不是先請教一下其他委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/229.wav",
        "text": "是不是有想要發言來表達一些意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/230.wav",
        "text": "大家不要有壓力想講話就講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/231.wav",
        "text": "但如果不想講話我也都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/232.wav",
        "text": "那我們接下來請鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/233.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/234.wav",
        "text": "案由裡面所提到的這些案子需要調查之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/235.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員特別提到的那個電影的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/236.wav",
        "text": "因為國發基金是根據產業發展條例第29條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/237.wav",
        "text": "最主要的目的就是要加速產業創新加值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/238.wav",
        "text": "促進經濟轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/239.wav",
        "text": "文化的部分也應該是屬於文化創意的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/240.wav",
        "text": "在這個辦法裡面都有明定了它的用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/241.wav",
        "text": "是不是有符合文化創意發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/242.wav",
        "text": "這個目的都必須一併地列入調查以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/243.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/244.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們有請張嘉郡委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/245.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/246.wav",
        "text": "其實關於國發基金我想大家都希望說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/247.wav",
        "text": "它是真的對國家發展有幫助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/248.wav",
        "text": "但是我也要提醒一下主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/249.wav",
        "text": "成立不當投資暨管理失職調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/250.wav",
        "text": "其實對於主委是一種保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/251.wav",
        "text": "因為你根本不理解在你之下會發生什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/252.wav",
        "text": "國發會的主委龔明鑫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/253.wav",
        "text": "鑫在備詢的時候就坦言說他是被騙了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/254.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/255.wav",
        "text": "及國發會這些行政人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/256.wav",
        "text": "尤其過去包括聯合再生賠了30億等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/257.wav",
        "text": "其實非常多的案件讓國發會淪為紓困基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/258.wav",
        "text": "真的是不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/259.wav",
        "text": "應該要出席的人員不是請假就是代理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/260.wav",
        "text": "擺明了他們就是知道有問題官商勾結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/261.wav",
        "text": "所以他們也在撇清責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/262.wav",
        "text": "主委我建議你支持我們成立這個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/263.wav",
        "text": "因為這個委員會的成立才能夠讓國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/264.wav",
        "text": "真正展現它的用途謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/265.wav",
        "text": "\n我們接下來有請麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/266.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/267.wav",
        "text": "各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/268.wav",
        "text": "我們希望真的成立一個獨立調查委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/269.wav",
        "text": "會然後展開全面的調查工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/270.wav",
        "text": "也符合國家的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/271.wav",
        "text": "也像我們張委員說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/272.wav",
        "text": "就是要有調查委員來幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/273.wav",
        "text": "我們建議有幾個必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/274.wav",
        "text": "就是獨立性的透明度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/275.wav",
        "text": "還有調查委員會將由立法院獨立運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/276.wav",
        "text": "確保調查的過程不受任何行政單位的干擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/277.wav",
        "text": "還有對外公開調查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/278.wav",
        "text": "也提升透明度增加社會對政府的信任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/279.wav",
        "text": "\n第二澈底揭露事實的真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/280.wav",
        "text": "透過委員會的深入調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/281.wav",
        "text": "也可以全面透露基金的投入和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/282.wav",
        "text": "和管理還有退場機制上的缺失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/283.wav",
        "text": "以便澄清責任歸屬確保未來改善的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/284.wav",
        "text": "\n第三就是修法及政策的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/285.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會將根據調查的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/286.wav",
        "text": "向立法院提出修法建議及政策的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/287.wav",
        "text": "確保未來國發基金運作更加嚴謹有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/288.wav",
        "text": "以符合產業發展及長遠的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/289.wav",
        "text": "強化基金的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/290.wav",
        "text": "成立調查委員會有助於查找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/291.wav",
        "text": "目前基金管理的流程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/292.wav",
        "text": "還有改善基金的管理運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/293.wav",
        "text": "因為都是在賠錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/294.wav",
        "text": "所以希望確保基金的使用合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/295.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望我們的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/296.wav",
        "text": "及我們的經濟發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/297.wav",
        "text": "和運作要有合理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/298.wav",
        "text": "我們要成立一個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/299.wav",
        "text": "真正承擔澈底為國家監督的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/300.wav",
        "text": "敗我們都是要監督這個基金讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/301.wav",
        "text": "它的運作得到信任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/302.wav",
        "text": "所以希望大家支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/303.wav",
        "text": "我們希望這個委員會可以正式成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/304.wav",
        "text": "好以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/305.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝麥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/306.wav",
        "text": "\n因為剛剛民進黨黨團代表蔡易餘委員舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/307.wav",
        "text": "好像有什麼話想要補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/308.wav",
        "text": "來有請蔡委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/309.wav",
        "text": "來我二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/310.wav",
        "text": "我還是要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/311.wav",
        "text": "因為調查委員會一定要符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/312.wav",
        "text": "憲法釋字第729號跟憲判字第9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/313.wav",
        "text": "事實上它的要件就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/314.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是要和特定議案有重大關聯且有調查之必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/315.wav",
        "text": "所以我在想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/316.wav",
        "text": "例子包括如興聯合再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/317.wav",
        "text": "所以如果是叫特定事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/318.wav",
        "text": "那應該就是指這三案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/319.wav",
        "text": "但是後來又有講到零日攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/320.wav",
        "text": "那這部分可能就超出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/321.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會所要調查的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/322.wav",
        "text": "因為這個調查委員會也不應該在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/323.wav",
        "text": "未來國發會審理國發基金的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/324.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為我們真的有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/325.wav",
        "text": "請韓院長我們再次確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/326.wav",
        "text": "由院的層級成立的調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/327.wav",
        "text": "的目的性以及它的一些內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/328.wav",
        "text": "否則的話不可能成立一個調查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/329.wav",
        "text": "然後就是掛在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/330.wav",
        "text": "然後就可以無窮無止盡每一案都可以來調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/331.wav",
        "text": "因為憲判字第9號講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/332.wav",
        "text": "所謂的特定議案就是說它的特定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/333.wav",
        "text": "要先框定住這樣好不好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/334.wav",
        "text": "謝謝蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/335.wav",
        "text": "\n當然每一個委員有每一個委員個別的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/336.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/337.wav",
        "text": "現在黨團協商我基本上只是要確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/338.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團基本上所抱持的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/339.wav",
        "text": "有共識就有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/340.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有共識我一向的立場是不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/341.wav",
        "text": "在黨團協商變成了一個辯論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/342.wav",
        "text": "或互相攻擊的大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/343.wav",
        "text": "這樣對於議事的效率對於委員彼此之間的和諧都不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/344.wav",
        "text": "所以我自己沒有表達太強烈的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/345.wav",
        "text": "但我們確定各個黨團的立場這樣就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/346.wav",
        "text": "我沒有說你有攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/347.wav",
        "text": "我在主持會議這麼中立這麼平和這麼理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/348.wav",
        "text": "你應該聽得出來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/349.wav",
        "text": "今天也感謝國發會的主委來到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/350.wav",
        "text": "那我們也不要讓你枯坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/351.wav",
        "text": "主委是不是希望講幾句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/352.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席和各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/353.wav",
        "text": "我想表達幾件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/354.wav",
        "text": "第一個我覺得我們用詞一定要精準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/355.wav",
        "text": "我們在電視前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/356.wav",
        "text": "國發基金不是全部賠錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/357.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員說我們都在賠錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/358.wav",
        "text": "去年我們賺了288億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/359.wav",
        "text": "我們今年預估也會超過265億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/360.wav",
        "text": "第二個如果投資失利就是有罪的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/361.wav",
        "text": "那巴菲特也有罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/362.wav",
        "text": "但是請注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/363.wav",
        "text": "投資的公司違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/364.wav",
        "text": "請問你投資人有沒有罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/365.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/366.wav",
        "text": "被投資的公司違法投資人有罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/367.wav",
        "text": "因為我們先認定是不當的投資跟失職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/368.wav",
        "text": "所以我比較擔心我們同仁會因為這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/369.wav",
        "text": "而先認定罪再去找出證據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/370.wav",
        "text": "我是建議如果你們真的要查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/371.wav",
        "text": "那就是查國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/372.wav",
        "text": "而不是說不當投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/373.wav",
        "text": "我不希望我們沒有罪就列了一個罪在上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/374.wav",
        "text": "這個對我們同仁不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/375.wav",
        "text": "第二個如果你今天只看投資失利的這幾個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/376.wav",
        "text": "對我們是不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/377.wav",
        "text": "我希望各位也要獎勵一下我們賺錢的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/378.wav",
        "text": "我也想講一下就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/379.wav",
        "text": "零日攻擊到底是不是有罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/380.wav",
        "text": "是不是一個錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/381.wav",
        "text": "那我先講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/382.wav",
        "text": "我們是依據文創條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/383.wav",
        "text": "把錢撥給了文化部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/384.wav",
        "text": "文化部進行這樣的文創投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/385.wav",
        "text": "我們從來沒有沒說清楚過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/386.wav",
        "text": "這個程序的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/387.wav",
        "text": "我們後來也把文化部的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/388.wav",
        "text": "所以資料還是存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/389.wav",
        "text": "但是請注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/390.wav",
        "text": "在沒有被定罪之前不要說我們有罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/391.wav",
        "text": "因為零日攻擊是一部電影"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/392.wav",
        "text": "它是一部電影是一個投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/393.wav",
        "text": "能不能成功我們並不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/394.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重文化部的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/395.wav",
        "text": "至於如興聯合再生等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/396.wav",
        "text": "我們認為這些公司有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/397.wav",
        "text": "對如興我們也跟著去告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/398.wav",
        "text": "我們也去告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/399.wav",
        "text": "那我再講一遍就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/400.wav",
        "text": "我們每一個評選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/401.wav",
        "text": "都有評審委員的簽名投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/402.wav",
        "text": "裡面有反對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/403.wav",
        "text": "過去是過半就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/404.wav",
        "text": "所以一定有多數同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/405.wav",
        "text": "少數反對的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/406.wav",
        "text": "不能說這個案子沒有人同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/407.wav",
        "text": "那是過去的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/408.wav",
        "text": "那我也跟各位報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/409.wav",
        "text": "兩個不同的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/410.wav",
        "text": "我們希望把整個過程變得更嚴謹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/411.wav",
        "text": "各位講的是沒有錄音的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/412.wav",
        "text": "我們現在也錄音了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/413.wav",
        "text": "都已經錄音了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/414.wav",
        "text": "每一個投票都有親自的簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/415.wav",
        "text": "都有親自的簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/416.wav",
        "text": "我只是在表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/417.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們先建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/418.wav",
        "text": "先不要污名化這個團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/419.wav",
        "text": "這個對大家不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/420.wav",
        "text": "第二個我們的確有賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/421.wav",
        "text": "288億扣除台積電的部分還賺了九十多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/422.wav",
        "text": "因為我們認為這個公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/423.wav",
        "text": "但是其實不是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/424.wav",
        "text": "投資的時候還是要看被投資者的股價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/425.wav",
        "text": "舉個例子我們投資藥華藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/426.wav",
        "text": "它現在還沒賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/427.wav",
        "text": "但是我們已經賺了45倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/428.wav",
        "text": "股價六百零多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/429.wav",
        "text": "我們可能要用比較正確的觀念來看它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/430.wav",
        "text": "會比較好一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/431.wav",
        "text": "這是我想表達的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/432.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主委的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/433.wav",
        "text": "所以也給主委發言的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/434.wav",
        "text": "其他委員未必有跟你一致的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/435.wav",
        "text": "只不過說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/436.wav",
        "text": "可能要有一些正確的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/437.wav",
        "text": "或正確的觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/438.wav",
        "text": "我想在場每一位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/439.wav",
        "text": "大家都有正確的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/440.wav",
        "text": "也有正確的觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/441.wav",
        "text": "只是看的角度不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/442.wav",
        "text": "我也不會說主委你要有正確的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/443.wav",
        "text": "或正確的觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/444.wav",
        "text": "這樣子恐怕也對主委不是很尊敬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/445.wav",
        "text": "剛剛張啓楷委員又舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/446.wav",
        "text": "我本來是想要把會議結束掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/447.wav",
        "text": "但因為剛剛蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/448.wav",
        "text": "我有給他第二輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/449.wav",
        "text": "所以如果不給張委員第二輪發言的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/450.wav",
        "text": "對張委員不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/451.wav",
        "text": "那是不是請張委員發言也請儘量簡短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/452.wav",
        "text": "主委不要太擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/453.wav",
        "text": "啦你的努力我們有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/454.wav",
        "text": "只是我們要提醒你的上一任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/455.wav",
        "text": "有說他被騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/456.wav",
        "text": "了我們是希望你不要被騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/457.wav",
        "text": "我們是保護你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/458.wav",
        "text": "那你剛剛提的不是國發基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/459.wav",
        "text": "有正確的我們當然是肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/460.wav",
        "text": "針對有不當投資的那一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/461.wav",
        "text": "或者有失職的那一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/462.wav",
        "text": "去做調查而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/463.wav",
        "text": "不是全部不是說國發基金投資的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/464.wav",
        "text": "都是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/465.wav",
        "text": "零日攻擊這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/466.wav",
        "text": "我看這段時間很多朝野立委都在提醒你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/467.wav",
        "text": "就是它是一個兩岸戰爭片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/468.wav",
        "text": "國發基金本來就是要為了國家發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/469.wav",
        "text": "那你全部把它丟給文化部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/470.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們要調查的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/471.wav",
        "text": "啊讓你有充分的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/472.wav",
        "text": "然後可以讓民眾知道為什麼你要去做這個投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/473.wav",
        "text": "我們講的是一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/474.wav",
        "text": "先停一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/475.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/476.wav",
        "text": "我現在要行使主席的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/477.wav",
        "text": "拿到麥克風的人請講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/478.wav",
        "text": "沒有拿到麥克風的人請仔細聆聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/479.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/480.wav",
        "text": "我只是希望看緊人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/481.wav",
        "text": "第二個國發基金真的要發揮正當跟正常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/482.wav",
        "text": "而且確實是幫人民有幫助的國家發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/483.wav",
        "text": "所以至少有四個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/484.wav",
        "text": "為什麼今天要成立這個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/485.wav",
        "text": "第一個如果有一部分是缺乏審慎的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/486.wav",
        "text": "評估機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/487.wav",
        "text": "那這個委員會就應該去把它查清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/488.wav",
        "text": "第二個在審議過程裡面有沒有不透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/489.wav",
        "text": "例如說剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/490.wav",
        "text": "為什麼那麼多人都在請假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/491.wav",
        "text": "第三個有沒有監督不力或應變不足的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/492.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/493.wav",
        "text": "為什麼錢丟下去的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/494.wav",
        "text": "之前不曉得這個公司已經有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/495.wav",
        "text": "兩年就虧了一兩億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/496.wav",
        "text": "然後就下市了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/497.wav",
        "text": "\n第四個有沒有秘密決策的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/498.wav",
        "text": "有沒有權責不明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/499.wav",
        "text": "很多都牽扯到府院高層關係是密切的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/500.wav",
        "text": "而且後來很多虧損是很嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/501.wav",
        "text": "我們會給予肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/502.wav",
        "text": "可是相對的如果有不當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/503.wav",
        "text": "我們希望把它查清楚好不好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/504.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝各位黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/505.wav",
        "text": "從大家發言的結果可以很清楚的看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/506.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的協商沒有辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/507.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/508.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的協商會議就結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/509.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們就按照立法院相關的議事規則來加以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16229/510.wav",
        "text": "謝謝散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/0.wav",
        "text": "大家早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/1.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/2.wav",
        "text": "稅法通則第4條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/3.wav",
        "text": "修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/4.wav",
        "text": "稅法通則第4條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/5.wav",
        "text": "修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/6.wav",
        "text": "意見我們就到臺下進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/7.wav",
        "text": "委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/8.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁委員等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/9.wav",
        "text": "明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/10.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/11.wav",
        "text": "詢答還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/12.wav",
        "text": "有達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/13.wav",
        "text": "後討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/14.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/15.wav",
        "text": "的疑慮有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/16.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/17.wav",
        "text": "究就認為這個限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/18.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/19.wav",
        "text": "就是保留我們還有朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/20.wav",
        "text": "商讓他們還有1個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16201/21.wav",
        "text": "就開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/0.wav",
        "text": "各位同仁大家早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/1.wav",
        "text": "我們要請各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/2.wav",
        "text": "位黨團代表以及次長署長等政府官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/3.wav",
        "text": "分別就本次協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/4.wav",
        "text": "地方稅法通則第4條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/5.wav",
        "text": "我們就到臺下進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/6.wav",
        "text": "\n這個在委員會裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/7.wav",
        "text": "事實上已經有審查報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/8.wav",
        "text": "已經列席說明備詢這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/9.wav",
        "text": "在113年5月6號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/10.wav",
        "text": "今年5月已經聯席會議審查過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/11.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆委員跟傅委員也都有說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/12.wav",
        "text": "大家看一下書面的資料上面有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/13.wav",
        "text": "我們就不再贅述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/14.wav",
        "text": "也有回應委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/15.wav",
        "text": "這個資料也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/16.wav",
        "text": "財政部這邊的說法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/17.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆等人提案第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/18.wav",
        "text": "第1項地方稅範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/19.wav",
        "text": "定明為中央立法之地方稅及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/20.wav",
        "text": "將地方稅明定為中央立法所定的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/21.wav",
        "text": "並增訂同條第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/22.wav",
        "text": "定明地方政府開徵之特別稅課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/23.wav",
        "text": "臨時稅課及附加稅課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/24.wav",
        "text": "徵收率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/25.wav",
        "text": "調高30%之限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/26.wav",
        "text": "與第4條原立法意旨相符"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/27.wav",
        "text": "這是財政部的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/28.wav",
        "text": "所以尊重委員會的審議結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/29.wav",
        "text": "委員會已經聽取說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/30.wav",
        "text": "及詢答還有經過大體討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/31.wav",
        "text": "進行討論後已經有達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/32.wav",
        "text": "全案審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/33.wav",
        "text": "審查結果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/34.wav",
        "text": "全案保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/35.wav",
        "text": "這是上一次開會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/36.wav",
        "text": "所以決議就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/37.wav",
        "text": "併案擬具審查報告提報院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/38.wav",
        "text": "要經黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/39.wav",
        "text": "也就是我們今天進行協商的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/40.wav",
        "text": "然後討論本案時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/41.wav",
        "text": "羅召集委員會補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/42.wav",
        "text": "我今天就來補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/43.wav",
        "text": "大家手上都有這份資料吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/44.wav",
        "text": "啦看起來行政院財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/45.wav",
        "text": "也沒有特別的反對意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/46.wav",
        "text": "就尊重委員會的審議結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/47.wav",
        "text": "郭委員有意見請說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/48.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/49.wav",
        "text": "就是因為有意見才會保留到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/50.wav",
        "text": "政黨進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/51.wav",
        "text": "雖然字眼上增加不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/52.wav",
        "text": "然後賴版跟傅版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/53.wav",
        "text": "其實條文上只有一兩字的差異而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/54.wav",
        "text": "但是這裡頭最主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/55.wav",
        "text": "會無法達成共識的幾項原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/56.wav",
        "text": "我做一個比較敘述性的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/57.wav",
        "text": "第一個這個其實牽扯到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/58.wav",
        "text": "有相關的訴訟案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/59.wav",
        "text": "目前還在纏訟當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/60.wav",
        "text": "特別是花蓮縣的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/61.wav",
        "text": "跟砂石業者之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/62.wav",
        "text": "所引發的一連串爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/63.wav",
        "text": "跟行政救濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/64.wav",
        "text": "從105年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/65.wav",
        "text": "一直在纏訟當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/66.wav",
        "text": "這個我讓主席了解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/67.wav",
        "text": "所以此時此刻修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/68.wav",
        "text": "恐怕會落入個案修法的口實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/69.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/70.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/71.wav",
        "text": "來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/72.wav",
        "text": "因為原條文第4條當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/73.wav",
        "text": "就有規範30%的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/74.wav",
        "text": "他卻把它限縮在所謂中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/75.wav",
        "text": "立法所定的範疇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/76.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/77.wav",
        "text": "只要是地方新增的稅源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/78.wav",
        "text": "就沒有受這個比率上的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/79.wav",
        "text": "而新增稅源的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/80.wav",
        "text": "與地方相關的條文是第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/81.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有一個比率上的限制的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/82.wav",
        "text": "恐無法預期那個稅率是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/83.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/84.wav",
        "text": "變成無法預測或毫無依循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/85.wav",
        "text": "它要幾倍就變幾倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/86.wav",
        "text": "會變成這種狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/87.wav",
        "text": "所以如果要修這條法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/88.wav",
        "text": "嚴格來說也要附帶連同第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/89.wav",
        "text": "一併來修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/90.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/91.wav",
        "text": "其實針對地方稅法通則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/92.wav",
        "text": "不論就財政部也好或學者也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/93.wav",
        "text": "大家都有類似的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/94.wav",
        "text": "財政部也委託過研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/95.wav",
        "text": "就認為這個限制太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/96.wav",
        "text": "應該修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/97.wav",
        "text": "前兩天主持的公聽會當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/98.wav",
        "text": "我們也不斷提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/99.wav",
        "text": "要充實地方的財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/100.wav",
        "text": "增加它的自主能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/101.wav",
        "text": "地方稅法通則應該要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/102.wav",
        "text": "您後來做成的決議也是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/103.wav",
        "text": "關於地方稅法通則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/104.wav",
        "text": "老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/105.wav",
        "text": "就大部分的地方政府來說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/106.wav",
        "text": "是看得到吃不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/107.wav",
        "text": "或即便吃得到也是吃一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/108.wav",
        "text": "然後因為只可以吃一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/109.wav",
        "text": "它就想要吃很大口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/110.wav",
        "text": "所以產生了今天這個很大的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/111.wav",
        "text": "以源頭還是這一部法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/112.wav",
        "text": "要去修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/113.wav",
        "text": "然後要有一個通盤的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/114.wav",
        "text": "就如同我剛剛講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/115.wav",
        "text": "第4條跟第3條有連帶關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/116.wav",
        "text": "有可能再有一點開拓性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/117.wav",
        "text": "不要有太多的限制性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/118.wav",
        "text": "而且次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/119.wav",
        "text": "是專家當中的專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/120.wav",
        "text": "署長也算是在次長之後而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/121.wav",
        "text": "財政部最強的兩位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/122.wav",
        "text": "稅制專家都在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/123.wav",
        "text": "如果他們想不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/124.wav",
        "text": "誰能夠想得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/125.wav",
        "text": "而且講白一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/126.wav",
        "text": "我認為這一個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/127.wav",
        "text": "一來真的要請財政部費心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/128.wav",
        "text": "去了解一下地方政府的一些相關需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/129.wav",
        "text": "他們有沒有察覺到限制在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/130.wav",
        "text": "當然這是想要財政自主的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/131.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有想要財政自主的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/132.wav",
        "text": "他可能也不太關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/133.wav",
        "text": "啦但是我相信總是會有人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/134.wav",
        "text": "想要多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/135.wav",
        "text": "自主財源的可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/136.wav",
        "text": "因此我是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/137.wav",
        "text": "這個要再花點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/138.wav",
        "text": "請財政部召開一次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/139.wav",
        "text": "不要再委託研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/140.wav",
        "text": "因為委託研究已經很多次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/141.wav",
        "text": "哪邊可以放哪邊不能放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/142.wav",
        "text": "如果兩位不知道的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/143.wav",
        "text": "我想全中華民國其他2,300萬人也沒人知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/144.wav",
        "text": "這個部分希望財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/145.wav",
        "text": "就是陳委員擔任主席所做的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/146.wav",
        "text": "還有今天這一個政黨協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/147.wav",
        "text": "能夠押個日期好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/148.wav",
        "text": "看能不能在6個月內提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/149.wav",
        "text": "這個很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/150.wav",
        "text": "可以充實他們本身的地方財政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/151.wav",
        "text": "以上是我的看法謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/152.wav",
        "text": "我回應一下好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/153.wav",
        "text": "好你回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/154.wav",
        "text": "這次修法的內容主要是第4條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/155.wav",
        "text": "因為是委員提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/156.wav",
        "text": "委員提案的部分主要就是讓第4條的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/157.wav",
        "text": "能夠說得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/158.wav",
        "text": "以中央立法的地方稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/159.wav",
        "text": "所以這次委員提案基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/160.wav",
        "text": "是文字上的明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/161.wav",
        "text": "地方政府他們開徵地方稅的權責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/162.wav",
        "text": "再放寬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/163.wav",
        "text": "當然目前第3條限縮的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/164.wav",
        "text": "當時訂定的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/165.wav",
        "text": "都有全國全盤性的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/166.wav",
        "text": "正委員們都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/167.wav",
        "text": "地方稅法通則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/168.wav",
        "text": "可能應該要併同做一個檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/169.wav",
        "text": "但是因為那個是全盤性的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/170.wav",
        "text": "跟這次委員提案當然是兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/171.wav",
        "text": "所以可能還是看看今天怎麼樣處理的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/172.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/173.wav",
        "text": "謝謝次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/174.wav",
        "text": "我講這個題目是非常中性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/175.wav",
        "text": "而且很專業的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/176.wav",
        "text": "有一篇社論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/177.wav",
        "text": "還有一篇專欄特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/178.wav",
        "text": "則讓地方可以在30%裡面調高的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/179.wav",
        "text": "（調高也調低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/180.wav",
        "text": "但事實上基本上是調高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/181.wav",
        "text": "）就裡面來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/182.wav",
        "text": "範圍的部分能夠把它限縮在中央立法的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/183.wav",
        "text": "中央如果沒有立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/184.wav",
        "text": "等於把這個權力下放給地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/185.wav",
        "text": "裡面很資深的記者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/186.wav",
        "text": "就問我這麼中性的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/187.wav",
        "text": "為什麼還要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/188.wav",
        "text": "就問我這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/189.wav",
        "text": "我說不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/190.wav",
        "text": "反正就協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/191.wav",
        "text": "這個也是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/192.wav",
        "text": "就是中央管地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/193.wav",
        "text": "的時候中央是不是能夠放一點權力給地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/194.wav",
        "text": "以現在來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/195.wav",
        "text": "我們還有一個現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/196.wav",
        "text": "就是常常是中央請客地方買單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/197.wav",
        "text": "現在講什麼里長加薪加什麼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/198.wav",
        "text": "不是中央政府去買單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/199.wav",
        "text": "像娛樂稅現在放了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/200.wav",
        "text": "你們娛樂稅是強調很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/201.wav",
        "text": "你們現在放了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/202.wav",
        "text": "過去都不放\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/203.wav",
        "text": "所以我就覺得針對現在目前來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/204.wav",
        "text": "整個的趨勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/205.wav",
        "text": "給地方多一點的彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/206.wav",
        "text": "除了中央訂的調30%以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/207.wav",
        "text": "其他的部分就尊重地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/208.wav",
        "text": "而且也不是地方政府要怎麼調就怎麼調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/209.wav",
        "text": "還要經過地方的議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/210.wav",
        "text": "要議會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/211.wav",
        "text": "議會沒有通過也不能做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/212.wav",
        "text": "所以不是地方政府就能夠來獨裁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/213.wav",
        "text": "就這個來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/214.wav",
        "text": "我是希望說看看怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/215.wav",
        "text": "那就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/216.wav",
        "text": "吧如果不能有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/217.wav",
        "text": "那就送到院會處理吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/218.wav",
        "text": "我綜合剛剛大家的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/219.wav",
        "text": "剛剛郭委員講得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/220.wav",
        "text": "但是你說所謂的個案修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/221.wav",
        "text": "立法院常常就是遇到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/222.wav",
        "text": "重大事情才會進行修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/223.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有時候比較慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/224.wav",
        "text": "通常沒有先進一步在修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/225.wav",
        "text": "我們應該檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/226.wav",
        "text": "比如像消防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/227.wav",
        "text": "我們都開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/228.wav",
        "text": "地開始修消防相關的法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/229.wav",
        "text": "\n所以為個案修法不等於是壞事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/230.wav",
        "text": "反而我們要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/231.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們都是要發生事情才去修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/232.wav",
        "text": "如果我們立法院的同仁們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/233.wav",
        "text": "比較有遠見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/234.wav",
        "text": "我們應該事先修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/235.wav",
        "text": "但是事後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/236.wav",
        "text": "亡羊補牢猶未晚矣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/237.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要跟得上時代的改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/238.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛是舉消防的案例當例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/239.wav",
        "text": "不是說為個案修法就不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/240.wav",
        "text": "自己為什麼沒有遠見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/241.wav",
        "text": "沒有看到比較遠的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/242.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/243.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一我們開財劃法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/244.wav",
        "text": "也說到地方稅法通則要修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/245.wav",
        "text": "讓地方比較有更強大的自主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/246.wav",
        "text": "知道自己的財源收入要怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/247.wav",
        "text": "收比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/248.wav",
        "text": "然後要自給自足更強一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/249.wav",
        "text": "這個也是我們大家共同的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/250.wav",
        "text": "剛剛李次長所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/251.wav",
        "text": "我禮拜一也有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/252.wav",
        "text": "你們也有提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/253.wav",
        "text": "我也是很支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/254.wav",
        "text": "所以次長的確全盤的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/255.wav",
        "text": "也應該要去檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/256.wav",
        "text": "我們財劃法往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/257.wav",
        "text": "你們的稅則要跟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/258.wav",
        "text": "賴委員跟傅委員都已經提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/259.wav",
        "text": "我們就往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/260.wav",
        "text": "後面你們該修的也要跟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/261.wav",
        "text": "我也贊同你說要研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/262.wav",
        "text": "所以我也支持你的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/263.wav",
        "text": "所以應該是這麼說吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/264.wav",
        "text": "當然如果今天可以達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/265.wav",
        "text": "那OK這個法就先過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/266.wav",
        "text": "如果郭委員有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/267.wav",
        "text": "當然我們也要尊重你的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/268.wav",
        "text": "我們如果保留出去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/269.wav",
        "text": "到朝野協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/270.wav",
        "text": "還有1個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/271.wav",
        "text": "這個月如果要做什麼研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/272.wav",
        "text": "也是尊重他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/273.wav",
        "text": "嘛至於全盤的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/274.wav",
        "text": "他願意給你們比較多的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/275.wav",
        "text": "但是財政部要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/276.wav",
        "text": "我們財劃法是往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/277.wav",
        "text": "的你們要研究也要快速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/278.wav",
        "text": "不是說3個月6個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/279.wav",
        "text": "你們也要快速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/280.wav",
        "text": "地趕快把東西送過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/281.wav",
        "text": "不然我們也不會等待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/282.wav",
        "text": "自主權很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/283.wav",
        "text": "尤其財劃法的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/284.wav",
        "text": "也是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/285.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/286.wav",
        "text": "這個應該也沒什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/287.wav",
        "text": "如果對這個照案這樣通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/288.wav",
        "text": "我還有不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/289.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/290.wav",
        "text": "疑慮在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/291.wav",
        "text": "而且在司法訴訟當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/292.wav",
        "text": "有兩造雙方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/293.wav",
        "text": "任何修法都會影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/294.wav",
        "text": "個別權益的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/295.wav",
        "text": "是在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/296.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/297.wav",
        "text": "基本上我的論點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/298.wav",
        "text": "其實都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/299.wav",
        "text": "就是地方需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/300.wav",
        "text": "多一點稅源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/301.wav",
        "text": "地方財政需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/302.wav",
        "text": "更多的自主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/303.wav",
        "text": "地方稅法通則需要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/304.wav",
        "text": "但是問題是怎麼修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/305.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/306.wav",
        "text": "所以我保留意見是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/307.wav",
        "text": "\n還有一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/308.wav",
        "text": "就是呼應一下賴士葆委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/309.wav",
        "text": "其實是一個關鍵的限制條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/310.wav",
        "text": "因為它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/311.wav",
        "text": "六大限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/312.wav",
        "text": "實在限制非常地多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/313.wav",
        "text": "因此其實要動的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/314.wav",
        "text": "應該連同第3條一起動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/315.wav",
        "text": "配套來做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/316.wav",
        "text": "這樣會比較完整一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/317.wav",
        "text": "否則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/318.wav",
        "text": "個案修法的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/319.wav",
        "text": "確實是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/320.wav",
        "text": "正在訴訟當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/321.wav",
        "text": "因此我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/322.wav",
        "text": "這部法案需要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/323.wav",
        "text": "但是怎麼修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/324.wav",
        "text": "\n應該比較全面地修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/325.wav",
        "text": "讓地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/326.wav",
        "text": "更有財源的修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/327.wav",
        "text": "而不是為個案而修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/328.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/329.wav",
        "text": "我再提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/330.wav",
        "text": "這不是什麼個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/331.wav",
        "text": "因為這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/332.wav",
        "text": "我在第10屆就提出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/333.wav",
        "text": "但是因為屆期不連續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/334.wav",
        "text": "那時候傅委員沒有提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/335.wav",
        "text": "只有我一個人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/336.wav",
        "text": "在第10屆我就提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/337.wav",
        "text": "各位都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/338.wav",
        "text": "我們當立委這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/339.wav",
        "text": "你想修這個想修那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/340.wav",
        "text": "一定是看各界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/341.wav",
        "text": "各個教授他們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/342.wav",
        "text": "曾巨威寫的這一篇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/343.wav",
        "text": "就著手來修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/344.wav",
        "text": "但第10屆沒有過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/345.wav",
        "text": "又拿出來修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/346.wav",
        "text": "整個故事story是這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/347.wav",
        "text": "不需要什麼都把它政治化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/348.wav",
        "text": "戴上一個帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/349.wav",
        "text": "不過我尊重郭委員的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/350.wav",
        "text": "那就看主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/351.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重大家的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/352.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/353.wav",
        "text": "立法院的法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/354.wav",
        "text": "本來就會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/355.wav",
        "text": "很多的個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/356.wav",
        "text": "比如我們上一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/357.wav",
        "text": "本來是20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/358.wav",
        "text": "同時一定有很多訴訟案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/359.wav",
        "text": "有20%跟16%的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/360.wav",
        "text": "在那裡發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/361.wav",
        "text": "一定有很多很多的個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/362.wav",
        "text": "這個毫無疑問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/363.wav",
        "text": "立法就是會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/364.wav",
        "text": "但是我們是民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/365.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/366.wav",
        "text": "我們應該做的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/367.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法達成一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/368.wav",
        "text": "我們就一樣就是保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/369.wav",
        "text": "我們還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/370.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商這個階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/371.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/372.wav",
        "text": "讓他們還有1個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/373.wav",
        "text": "可以去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/374.wav",
        "text": "保留好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/375.wav",
        "text": "保留送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/376.wav",
        "text": "我們保留送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/377.wav",
        "text": "送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/378.wav",
        "text": "因為這件事情是105年就開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/379.wav",
        "text": "還有很多民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/380.wav",
        "text": "就開始了可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/381.wav",
        "text": "不過以賴委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/382.wav",
        "text": "我都沒有看證據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/383.wav",
        "text": "我就看你的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/384.wav",
        "text": "來做參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/385.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16200/386.wav",
        "text": "送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/0.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝大家出席今天黨團協商的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/1.wav",
        "text": "我們現在開始協商的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/2.wav",
        "text": "\n本日協商國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第十六條條文的修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/3.wav",
        "text": "在協商進行以前我們先介紹到場的委員還有機關的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/4.wav",
        "text": "羅智強委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/5.wav",
        "text": "還有執政黨的代表蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/6.wav",
        "text": "及台灣民眾黨的代表林國成委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/7.wav",
        "text": "我們同時介紹一下今天機關列席的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/8.wav",
        "text": "儒以及行政院人事行政總處組編人力處曾永芳專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/9.wav",
        "text": "還有一樣是人事行政總處培訓考用處賴家陽專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/10.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝今天出席的機關代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/11.wav",
        "text": "\n我們今天要協商的國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第十六條條文的修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/12.wav",
        "text": "總共有台灣民眾黨黨團逕付二讀的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/13.wav",
        "text": "也有翁曉玲委員併案協商的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/14.wav",
        "text": "以及徐欣瑩委員併案協商的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/15.wav",
        "text": "在我們開始之前是不是先請台灣民眾黨黨團的代表林國成委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/16.wav",
        "text": "來跟我們說明一下第十六條的修正旨趣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/17.wav",
        "text": "我想今天協商這個案子最主要的是第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/18.wav",
        "text": "過去是完全沒有把時效性的問題明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/19.wav",
        "text": "所以我們台灣民眾黨提出這些就是在整個法律通過之後把時間訂得很清楚什麼時候開始實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/20.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣的話一明確化二根本就是什麼時間就是什麼時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/21.wav",
        "text": "不會有其他窒礙難行之用語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/22.wav",
        "text": "所以特別跟主管機關再說明本黨就是把時間明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/23.wav",
        "text": "特別跟各位報告我在想這是一個非常單純的法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/24.wav",
        "text": "把時效明確化這是一個非常好的法律以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/25.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝林國成委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/26.wav",
        "text": "主席還有各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/27.wav",
        "text": "本席這次提出NCC組織法第十六條的公布施行日期的修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/28.wav",
        "text": "最主要也是因為沒有想到行政院這麼小人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/29.wav",
        "text": "連我們三讀通過的法案他都可以不施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/30.wav",
        "text": "但是也沒有定一個期限出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/31.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在這裡要提出這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/32.wav",
        "text": "只要是未來NCC組織法修正公布之後就要立刻施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/33.wav",
        "text": "這就是防小人條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/34.wav",
        "text": "我們也怕未來其他的行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/35.wav",
        "text": "乃至於司法院考試院監察院等等都有可能會以這種方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/36.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在這裡提出這個修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/37.wav",
        "text": "只要以後是立法院三讀通過的條文沒有任何理由就應該立刻公布施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/38.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝翁曉玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/39.wav",
        "text": "接下來蔡易餘委員有沒有意見要表達請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/40.wav",
        "text": "我想這個法律規定施行日期是以行政院以命令規定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/41.wav",
        "text": "目前有效的法律有208個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/42.wav",
        "text": "所以現行的法律事實上是非常常見而且普遍的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/43.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為沒有這樣修正的一個必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/44.wav",
        "text": "這是我的意見表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/45.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/46.wav",
        "text": "今天我們有到場的羅智強委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/47.wav",
        "text": "羅委員要不要表示一下意見不用嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/48.wav",
        "text": "好我先跟大家把背景說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/49.wav",
        "text": "我們在7月16號的時候針對NCC的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/50.wav",
        "text": "因為之前有黨團提出NCC組織法的萬年委員的條款必須要予以修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/51.wav",
        "text": "當然三個在立法院裡面有黨團主要的政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/52.wav",
        "text": "針對當初這個萬年延任的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/53.wav",
        "text": "到底是不是有繼續存在的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/54.wav",
        "text": "以及我們NCC委員的資格是不是有必要加以限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/55.wav",
        "text": "連任了以後是不是不准再任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/56.wav",
        "text": "其實那些條文相關實質上面的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/57.wav",
        "text": "在當初修正那個條文的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/58.wav",
        "text": "提案的委員各個黨團不同的代表已經進行過充分的論述了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/59.wav",
        "text": "\n今天針對這個施行日期的條文並沒有意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/60.wav",
        "text": "要把以前就已經處理過的論述重新再處理一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/61.wav",
        "text": "我們現在不是針對已經三讀生效的法律案要再重新進行討論的場合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/62.wav",
        "text": "絕對不是那個場合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/63.wav",
        "text": "只不過今年夏天在修正這個法律案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/64.wav",
        "text": "我們本來以為按照修法的意旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/65.wav",
        "text": "公佈以後幾天就會發生了效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/66.wav",
        "text": "不過今年夏天在修法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/67.wav",
        "text": "因為本來依照中央法規標準法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/68.wav",
        "text": "公告了以後就會發生效力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/69.wav",
        "text": "結果沒有想到之前有一個比較老的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/70.wav",
        "text": "也就是今天在處理的標的第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/71.wav",
        "text": "第十六條當初在訂NCC組織法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/72.wav",
        "text": "因為有一些配套的行政措施要並行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/73.wav",
        "text": "所以當年的NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/74.wav",
        "text": "留下第十六條本法施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/75.wav",
        "text": "由行政院以命令定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/76.wav",
        "text": "\n在這樣子的背景下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/77.wav",
        "text": "上一屆的國會在修正NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/78.wav",
        "text": "我們針對NCC委員萬年的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/79.wav",
        "text": "以及他的資格限制上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/80.wav",
        "text": "並沒有去設想到我們的行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/81.wav",
        "text": "竟然會用以前舊法的第十六條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/82.wav",
        "text": "\n第十六條的規定說他決定不要公告那個施行的日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/83.wav",
        "text": "法律上面規定彼此之間的分歧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/84.wav",
        "text": "因為行政院認為他們依照第十六條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/85.wav",
        "text": "可以決定施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/86.wav",
        "text": "包括今年夏天上一個會期的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/87.wav",
        "text": "但是在立法院這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/88.wav",
        "text": "各個不同的黨團針對這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/89.wav",
        "text": "有不一樣的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/90.wav",
        "text": "應該是跟行政院解釋的方式一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/91.wav",
        "text": "施行日期什麼時候施行讓行政院來加以決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/92.wav",
        "text": "但是兩個當初在推動修法的在野黨的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/93.wav",
        "text": "包括中國國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/94.wav",
        "text": "跟台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/95.wav",
        "text": "都不認為當初在修法的時候有這樣的意旨存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/96.wav",
        "text": "既然已經產生了這樣的法律上面解釋的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/97.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/98.wav",
        "text": "為了要澈底解決這個在法律解釋上面的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/99.wav",
        "text": "所以才針對第十六條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/100.wav",
        "text": "有提案修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/101.wav",
        "text": "希望予以明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/102.wav",
        "text": "讓這個法規適用的爭議能夠畫上終點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/103.wav",
        "text": "可以畫上一個句點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/104.wav",
        "text": "剛剛是比較客觀的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/105.wav",
        "text": "說明我們今天為什麼坐在這裡協商這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/106.wav",
        "text": "因為我身為主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/107.wav",
        "text": "雖然我對這件事情有非常強烈的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/108.wav",
        "text": "也有強烈的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/109.wav",
        "text": "但是身為主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/110.wav",
        "text": "我不要把自己的意見跟立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/111.wav",
        "text": "帶到主席的這個位置上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/112.wav",
        "text": "剛剛三個黨團的代表也都各自表述了意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/113.wav",
        "text": "顯然針對這個法規的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/114.wav",
        "text": "我們三個黨團都沒有辦法獲致共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/115.wav",
        "text": "在最後這個結論以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/116.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得今天列席的行政機關的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/117.wav",
        "text": "有沒有希望能夠做一個發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/118.wav",
        "text": "留下紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/119.wav",
        "text": "表達行政機關的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/120.wav",
        "text": "不過我要再次的跟大家說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/121.wav",
        "text": "今天協商的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/122.wav",
        "text": "不是把三讀通過的法律案重新吵一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/123.wav",
        "text": "把三讀通過的法律案重新吵一次沒有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/124.wav",
        "text": "啦要不然以後立法院沒完沒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/125.wav",
        "text": "三讀通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/126.wav",
        "text": "反對的那一方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/127.wav",
        "text": "永遠可以在接下來日期當中回去持續的爭執"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/128.wav",
        "text": "整個立法院沒有辦法往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/129.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n我們現在就針對今天協商的標的第十六條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/130.wav",
        "text": "看行政機關的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/131.wav",
        "text": "不管是通傳會還是我們的人總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/132.wav",
        "text": "能夠來表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/133.wav",
        "text": "人總誰要當代表上來發言好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/134.wav",
        "text": "因為今天本來是請行政院列席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/135.wav",
        "text": "席行政院回函給我們黨團說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/136.wav",
        "text": "他們認為主管機關是人總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/137.wav",
        "text": "所以請人總派人過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/138.wav",
        "text": "那我們也是不為難行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/139.wav",
        "text": "行政院他們沒有要派代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/140.wav",
        "text": "因為這件事情老實說是行政院院長決定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/141.wav",
        "text": "可能權責分配決定請人總的來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/142.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以請人總的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/143.wav",
        "text": "跟我們表明一下人總有沒有什麼要補充說明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/144.wav",
        "text": "主席人總這邊的發言意見是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/145.wav",
        "text": "今年9月10號在立法院的院會中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/146.wav",
        "text": "這個施行日期的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/147.wav",
        "text": "第一希望讓機關能夠正常運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/148.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是希望能夠儘速通過人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/149.wav",
        "text": "第三個就是行政院會依法行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/150.wav",
        "text": "等三個原則回應委員的詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/151.wav",
        "text": "基於剛剛院長有特別宣示這幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/152.wav",
        "text": "新法施行日期的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/153.wav",
        "text": "他是比較希望通傳會新任委員人事案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/154.wav",
        "text": "通過以後再決定這個新法的施行日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/155.wav",
        "text": "以維護通傳會的業務正常運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/156.wav",
        "text": "我們的建議是新法施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/157.wav",
        "text": "是不是還是由行政院決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/158.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議通傳會組織法第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/159.wav",
        "text": "能夠維持現行條文的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/160.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/161.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝人總代表的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/162.wav",
        "text": "接下來通傳會有要再補充的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/163.wav",
        "text": "首先我就接著人總他們的這個意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/164.wav",
        "text": "當然尊重大院最後的立法決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/165.wav",
        "text": "我從實務上目前至少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/166.wav",
        "text": "從7月31號到現在已經延任一段時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/167.wav",
        "text": "這個過程當中其實我們有發布很多人事命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/168.wav",
        "text": "還有一些行政處分案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/169.wav",
        "text": "如果說假設這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/170.wav",
        "text": "至少在立法架構上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/171.wav",
        "text": "如果假設要溯至7月31號或是8月1號開始的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/172.wav",
        "text": "中間這一段的行政處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/173.wav",
        "text": "還有我們一些法令的制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/174.wav",
        "text": "恐怕就會流於效力未定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/175.wav",
        "text": "這個可能要請大院考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/176.wav",
        "text": "當然如果說假設是由行政院來決定的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/177.wav",
        "text": "以行政院體系的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/178.wav",
        "text": "照原來的這個規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/179.wav",
        "text": "那如果說假設大院覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/180.wav",
        "text": "仍然要去做一些修正的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/181.wav",
        "text": "我的建議就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/182.wav",
        "text": "因為至少顧及到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/183.wav",
        "text": "從7月31號到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/184.wav",
        "text": "已經有諸多的行政行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/185.wav",
        "text": "要尊重這部分的效力最好能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/186.wav",
        "text": "比較不會造成效力未定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/187.wav",
        "text": "而影響到人民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/188.wav",
        "text": "以及法律的安定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/189.wav",
        "text": "以上簡要報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/190.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/191.wav",
        "text": "最後修正的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/192.wav",
        "text": "一定是最後會往後發生效力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/193.wav",
        "text": "那文字上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/194.wav",
        "text": "到底要怎麼調整這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/195.wav",
        "text": "等到我們院會處理的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/196.wav",
        "text": "我相信各個提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/197.wav",
        "text": "跟黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/198.wav",
        "text": "他們都會各自提出修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/199.wav",
        "text": "以及再修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/200.wav",
        "text": "我必須要再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/201.wav",
        "text": "回顧上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/202.wav",
        "text": "通過NCC組織法修正案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/203.wav",
        "text": "立法者從頭到尾沒有意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/204.wav",
        "text": "要把施行日期交給行政院做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/205.wav",
        "text": "我相信從整個立法的歷程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/206.wav",
        "text": "這件事情是非常非常清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/207.wav",
        "text": "也正是因為這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/208.wav",
        "text": "所以現在產生了法規適用上面的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/209.wav",
        "text": "才有委員以及黨團分別提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/210.wav",
        "text": "要求做修正這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/211.wav",
        "text": "\n當然卓榮泰院長的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/212.wav",
        "text": "面對立委質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/213.wav",
        "text": "他表達的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/214.wav",
        "text": "我們認不認同是一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/215.wav",
        "text": "不過行政院院長表達的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/216.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重也聽到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/217.wav",
        "text": "只是說各個不同朝野的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/218.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰這樣子的說法這樣子的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/219.wav",
        "text": "立法院是一個合議的機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/220.wav",
        "text": "我們到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/221.wav",
        "text": "還是要按照立法院裡面民主的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/222.wav",
        "text": "到院會裡面依照民主的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/223.wav",
        "text": "來加以做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/224.wav",
        "text": "\n最後針對有關於NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/225.wav",
        "text": "因為早就交付委員會審查了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/226.wav",
        "text": "嘛議事人員我應該沒有理解錯誤吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/227.wav",
        "text": "很早就交付委員會審查了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/228.wav",
        "text": "為什麼交付委員會審查這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/229.wav",
        "text": "都沒有排案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/230.wav",
        "text": "老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/231.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得百思不得其解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/232.wav",
        "text": "那沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/233.wav",
        "text": "我們也呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/234.wav",
        "text": "交通委員會的召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/235.wav",
        "text": "大家如果覺得急的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/236.wav",
        "text": "就趕快來排案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/237.wav",
        "text": "現在一直講的有一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/238.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛是在回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/239.wav",
        "text": "這個紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/240.wav",
        "text": "總是要讓這個過程比較完整一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/241.wav",
        "text": "蔡委員講的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/242.wav",
        "text": "今天聚焦的焦點就是三個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/243.wav",
        "text": "三個黨團針對這件事情沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/244.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/245.wav",
        "text": "那我們是不是依照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/246.wav",
        "text": "就沒有共識嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/247.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商沒有共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/248.wav",
        "text": "我們就交付院會處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/249.wav",
        "text": "喔這樣子喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/250.wav",
        "text": "所以一定要移請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/251.wav",
        "text": "反正就只有這兩個選擇就對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/252.wav",
        "text": "好那我們接下來就移請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/253.wav",
        "text": "召開黨團協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/254.wav",
        "text": "然後再進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/255.wav",
        "text": "其他後續的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/256.wav",
        "text": "我們就依照立法院職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/257.wav",
        "text": "行使法還有議事規則相關的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/258.wav",
        "text": "來加以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/259.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16192/260.wav",
        "text": "散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/0.wav",
        "text": "我們現在開始協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/1.wav",
        "text": "這次的協商主題是本院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/2.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/3.wav",
        "text": "建請院會要作成的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/4.wav",
        "text": "113年9月23日（"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/5.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一）加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/6.wav",
        "text": "邀請行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/7.wav",
        "text": "率同相關的部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/8.wav",
        "text": "就賴清德政府能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/9.wav",
        "text": "進行案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/10.wav",
        "text": "並備質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/11.wav",
        "text": "本案在9月20日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/12.wav",
        "text": "立法院第11屆第2會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/13.wav",
        "text": "第1次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/14.wav",
        "text": "院會已經決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/15.wav",
        "text": "交付黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/16.wav",
        "text": "並由台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/17.wav",
        "text": "負責召開協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/18.wav",
        "text": "協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/19.wav",
        "text": "請各黨團指派代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/20.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/21.wav",
        "text": "9月23日就要開始做專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/22.wav",
        "text": "因為現在不只"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/23.wav",
        "text": "電還開口要另外1,000億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/24.wav",
        "text": "撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/25.wav",
        "text": "讓申翰委員優先好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/26.wav",
        "text": "今天這個協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/27.wav",
        "text": "會議是由院會交下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/28.wav",
        "text": "啓楷委員剛剛提的民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/29.wav",
        "text": "包括電價調整的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/30.wav",
        "text": "院會做一個專報現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/31.wav",
        "text": "確實就像剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/32.wav",
        "text": "日可是9月23日已經過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/33.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼來討論這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/34.wav",
        "text": "從執政黨的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/35.wav",
        "text": "我們很清楚知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/36.wav",
        "text": "今天不只是在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/37.wav",
        "text": "包括很多社會大眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/38.wav",
        "text": "也都希望可以更加了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/39.wav",
        "text": "我們能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/40.wav",
        "text": "跟電價機制的具體規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/41.wav",
        "text": "這件事情對執政黨來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/42.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會迴避跟逃避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/43.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也覺得有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/44.wav",
        "text": "或需要就這幾個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/45.wav",
        "text": "或讓大家有更多資訊的提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/46.wav",
        "text": "召開的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/47.wav",
        "text": "因為就像剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/48.wav",
        "text": "的台電接下來還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/49.wav",
        "text": "1,000億的追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/50.wav",
        "text": "它的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/51.wav",
        "text": "它的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/52.wav",
        "text": "種種的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/53.wav",
        "text": "台電的收入跟支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/54.wav",
        "text": "勢必就會跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/55.wav",
        "text": "當下的能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/56.wav",
        "text": "非常非常直接的關聯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/57.wav",
        "text": "這幾乎是一體兩面的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/58.wav",
        "text": "今天我們談的這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/59.wav",
        "text": "不管是電價機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/60.wav",
        "text": "或能源政策能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/61.wav",
        "text": "跟台電為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/62.wav",
        "text": "需要1,000億追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/63.wav",
        "text": "幾乎是一體兩面的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/64.wav",
        "text": "一起來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/65.wav",
        "text": "過去我們在院會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/66.wav",
        "text": "也曾針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/67.wav",
        "text": "比方說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/68.wav",
        "text": "現在這個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/69.wav",
        "text": "─能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/70.wav",
        "text": "及電價調整機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/71.wav",
        "text": "這是可以的做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/72.wav",
        "text": "因為過去就有這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/73.wav",
        "text": "直接就寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/74.wav",
        "text": "原本的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/75.wav",
        "text": "開會的這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/76.wav",
        "text": "─能源政策能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/77.wav",
        "text": "跟電價調整機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/78.wav",
        "text": "打包去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/79.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們可以用這個方式去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/80.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/81.wav",
        "text": "啓楷委員今天召集的這個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/82.wav",
        "text": "多一本補充報告也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/83.wav",
        "text": "院長在報告時除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/84.wav",
        "text": "1,000億追加減預算的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/85.wav",
        "text": "之外還有一本補充報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/86.wav",
        "text": "是針對今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/87.wav",
        "text": "我們召開的這個題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/88.wav",
        "text": "這樣也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/89.wav",
        "text": "一樣都會談到這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/90.wav",
        "text": "也就是報告結束後委員的詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/91.wav",
        "text": "幾次總質詢聽下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/92.wav",
        "text": "要再答詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/93.wav",
        "text": "也都完全沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/94.wav",
        "text": "因為沒什麼好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/95.wav",
        "text": "去迴避這件事情的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/96.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛才的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/97.wav",
        "text": "要不要用併同的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/98.wav",
        "text": "因為過去也有這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/99.wav",
        "text": "如果要多拆出一本補充報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/100.wav",
        "text": "我們也覺得可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/101.wav",
        "text": "這是我要說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/102.wav",
        "text": "一點大家都知道這禮拜五中午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/103.wav",
        "text": "兩院院長會找朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/104.wav",
        "text": "我們在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/105.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/106.wav",
        "text": "中央政府總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/107.wav",
        "text": "台電的1,000億追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/108.wav",
        "text": "這些也都將是本會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/109.wav",
        "text": "最重要的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/110.wav",
        "text": "專案報告要怎麼安排的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/111.wav",
        "text": "是不是也可以等到那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/112.wav",
        "text": "再來做一個總體性的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/113.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我還是要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/114.wav",
        "text": "作為執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/115.wav",
        "text": "我們完全沒有要迴避這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/116.wav",
        "text": "該報告的該讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/117.wav",
        "text": "各個不同黨派委員來問的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/118.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/119.wav",
        "text": "只是在做法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/120.wav",
        "text": "可能用併同的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/121.wav",
        "text": "會更有效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/122.wav",
        "text": "而且這幾個主題之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/123.wav",
        "text": "也都有高度直接的關聯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/124.wav",
        "text": "性幾乎是一體化兩面的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/125.wav",
        "text": "這麼關注能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/126.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/127.wav",
        "text": "與成本之間還有落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/128.wav",
        "text": "成本怎麼算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/129.wav",
        "text": "當然是來自於能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/130.wav",
        "text": "跟能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/131.wav",
        "text": "這幾件事幾乎是全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/132.wav",
        "text": "同一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/133.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得用這個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/134.wav",
        "text": "也比較周全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/135.wav",
        "text": "以上大概是執政黨的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/136.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/137.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下請國成委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/138.wav",
        "text": "在此之前我先補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/139.wav",
        "text": "事實上申翰委員提的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/140.wav",
        "text": "因為賴政府的能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/141.wav",
        "text": "跟電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/142.wav",
        "text": "這個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/143.wav",
        "text": "我再重複一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/144.wav",
        "text": "那時候的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/145.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨為什麼提這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/146.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要求賴政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/147.wav",
        "text": "要就能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/148.wav",
        "text": "跟電價政策提出說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/149.wav",
        "text": "以後再決定要不要同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/150.wav",
        "text": "或者支持它漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/151.wav",
        "text": "可是後來電價委員會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/152.wav",
        "text": "已經漲了這是一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/153.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點現在洪申翰委員提的是另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/154.wav",
        "text": "那個減字可以拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/155.wav",
        "text": "就是要追加1,000億的撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/156.wav",
        "text": "現在有兩個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/157.wav",
        "text": "把要撥補這1,000億的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/158.wav",
        "text": "放到能源政策跟電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/159.wav",
        "text": "等於就同時付委了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/160.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/161.wav",
        "text": "放到這個1,000億的追加減裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/162.wav",
        "text": "兩個合在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/163.wav",
        "text": "併同來做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/164.wav",
        "text": "就是用併同的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/165.wav",
        "text": "一起來做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/166.wav",
        "text": "時也都會提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/167.wav",
        "text": "因為互相高度關聯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/168.wav",
        "text": "這樣會比較完整跟周全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/169.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨團的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/170.wav",
        "text": "申翰跟民進黨團認為是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/171.wav",
        "text": "把它合在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/172.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/173.wav",
        "text": "追加的這1,000億就放到禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/174.wav",
        "text": "在總預算那邊去討論也是個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/175.wav",
        "text": "國成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/176.wav",
        "text": "各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/177.wav",
        "text": "我想今天主要還是談論能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/178.wav",
        "text": "有時候你們自己提的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/179.wav",
        "text": "都還要我們民意代表來提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/180.wav",
        "text": "能源政策本來就是你們要講清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/181.wav",
        "text": "這本來就是你們要提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/182.wav",
        "text": "的不過今天有這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/183.wav",
        "text": "讓大家把它談清楚也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/184.wav",
        "text": "能源政策對跟錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/185.wav",
        "text": "你們要去把它搞清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/186.wav",
        "text": "尤其是常次也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/187.wav",
        "text": "董事長也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/188.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的能源政策到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/189.wav",
        "text": "是對或錯就我們的感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/190.wav",
        "text": "的能源政策是錯誤的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/191.wav",
        "text": "你們未來在改進整個台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/192.wav",
        "text": "\n我說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/193.wav",
        "text": "不管是撥補1,000億也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/194.wav",
        "text": "1兆也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/195.wav",
        "text": "都沒有辦法改變你們現在的體質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/196.wav",
        "text": "有一句臺灣話孤行獨市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/197.wav",
        "text": "做到虧損連連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/198.wav",
        "text": "這個是跟政策有連貫性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/199.wav",
        "text": "所以本黨才提出這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/200.wav",
        "text": "跟我們能源政策連接起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/201.wav",
        "text": "來改變台電的體質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/202.wav",
        "text": "這樣對整個國家才會有幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/203.wav",
        "text": "是老百姓最需要的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/204.wav",
        "text": "有沒有必要來談論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/205.wav",
        "text": "這個能源政策的錯與對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/206.wav",
        "text": "我還是要奉勸執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/207.wav",
        "text": "不要只有神主牌的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/208.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話就算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/209.wav",
        "text": "台電再找10個董事長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/210.wav",
        "text": "也都無法改變這個體質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/211.wav",
        "text": "要有公司自主經營理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/212.wav",
        "text": "現在是政策掛帥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/213.wav",
        "text": "那就完蛋了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/214.wav",
        "text": "\n舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/215.wav",
        "text": "來說台電現在虧損的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/216.wav",
        "text": "虧損的問題綠能買貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/217.wav",
        "text": "賣給老百姓便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/218.wav",
        "text": "每賣1度我們就虧多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/219.wav",
        "text": "這是做生意的ABC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/220.wav",
        "text": "你們從來也沒有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/221.wav",
        "text": "你們應該要怎麼解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/222.wav",
        "text": "另外一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/223.wav",
        "text": "核電廠到底可以不可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/224.wav",
        "text": "要不要延役或確定不延役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/225.wav",
        "text": "延役你們也要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/226.wav",
        "text": "\n其實申翰所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/227.wav",
        "text": "這1,000億不管是追加也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/228.wav",
        "text": "不管是撥補也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/229.wav",
        "text": "其實這個事小問題很大的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/230.wav",
        "text": "未來這1,000億撥了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/231.wav",
        "text": "還要繼續撥嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/232.wav",
        "text": "這才是最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/233.wav",
        "text": "案子希望你們長治久安有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/234.wav",
        "text": "永續經營的理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/235.wav",
        "text": "我們看台電公司的經營理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/236.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長你們寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/237.wav",
        "text": "就有辦法永續經營嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/238.wav",
        "text": "還是追加撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/239.wav",
        "text": "第一綠能買貴賣低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/240.wav",
        "text": "的部分董事長要不要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/241.wav",
        "text": "第二核電廠要不要延役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/242.wav",
        "text": "延役有沒有什麼幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/243.wav",
        "text": "根本不需要用到這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/244.wav",
        "text": "台電也要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/245.wav",
        "text": "才有辦法討論後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/246.wav",
        "text": "站在民意代表的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/247.wav",
        "text": "我想三黨都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/248.wav",
        "text": "但是我們期許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/249.wav",
        "text": "台電永續經營不要虧損連連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/250.wav",
        "text": "這是我們擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/251.wav",
        "text": "另外我說實在話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/252.wav",
        "text": "人民真的不是盤子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/253.wav",
        "text": "你們在做什麼老百姓都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/254.wav",
        "text": "我的用電貴不貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/255.wav",
        "text": "這些是老百姓所在乎的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/256.wav",
        "text": "本來也是人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/257.wav",
        "text": "所以不管追加不管撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/258.wav",
        "text": "我要瞭解的就是這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/259.wav",
        "text": "統統都是救急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/260.wav",
        "text": "本席的認知是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/261.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我特別要提醒經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/262.wav",
        "text": "漲價是人民最不願意看到的一個事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/263.wav",
        "text": "你們動不動就漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/264.wav",
        "text": "漲價也要有長期的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/265.wav",
        "text": "──短期漲價中期改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/266.wav",
        "text": "長期完全改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/267.wav",
        "text": "得這次漲價以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/268.wav",
        "text": "下次不會再漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/269.wav",
        "text": "不是4月份漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/270.wav",
        "text": "10月份又漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/271.wav",
        "text": "請問一下明年2月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/272.wav",
        "text": "過完年還要不要再漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/273.wav",
        "text": "這事很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/274.wav",
        "text": "\n曾董事長當過政務官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/275.wav",
        "text": "現在當董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/276.wav",
        "text": "我知道你是心有餘力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/277.wav",
        "text": "想要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/278.wav",
        "text": "但是又有政策卡在你身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/279.wav",
        "text": "這一點我完全能體會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/280.wav",
        "text": "自己還是要有公司最基本的經營理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/281.wav",
        "text": "工業用電戶都白白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/282.wav",
        "text": "這是有連動性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/283.wav",
        "text": "只要任何一個地方漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/284.wav",
        "text": "統統會連動到物價的上升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/285.wav",
        "text": "物價不會上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/286.wav",
        "text": "我們在基層裡面所接到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/287.wav",
        "text": "不管工廠用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/288.wav",
        "text": "或者工業用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/289.wav",
        "text": "或者什麼用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/290.wav",
        "text": "只要電費漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/291.wav",
        "text": "物價統統都會跟著上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/292.wav",
        "text": "這是一定的道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/293.wav",
        "text": "提供給董事長跟常次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/294.wav",
        "text": "就是威權漲價方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/295.wav",
        "text": "我坦白跟你們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/296.wav",
        "text": "如果要給你們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/297.wav",
        "text": "其實很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/298.wav",
        "text": "審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/299.wav",
        "text": "民間要三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/300.wav",
        "text": "民間代替台電講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/301.wav",
        "text": "比你們講老半天還有用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/302.wav",
        "text": "說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/303.wav",
        "text": "不要封閉式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/304.wav",
        "text": "不要威權式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/305.wav",
        "text": "在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/306.wav",
        "text": "電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/307.wav",
        "text": "因為我們已經提議通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/308.wav",
        "text": "要有超過二分之一以上的民間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/309.wav",
        "text": "民間幫台電講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/310.wav",
        "text": "比你們講的更有用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/311.wav",
        "text": "\n因為我當過里長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/312.wav",
        "text": "所以很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/313.wav",
        "text": "我記得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/314.wav",
        "text": "馬英九在講垃圾不落地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/315.wav",
        "text": "垃圾袋要徵收的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/316.wav",
        "text": "是從鄰長開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/317.wav",
        "text": "他問我怎麼解決才不會有反彈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/318.wav",
        "text": "我說讓里長開始了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/319.wav",
        "text": "再深入鄰長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/320.wav",
        "text": "鄰長再深入里民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/321.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講他推得就很成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/322.wav",
        "text": "一開始讓他們試辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/323.wav",
        "text": "他看一看臺北市垃圾不落地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/324.wav",
        "text": "相反的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/325.wav",
        "text": "如果電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/326.wav",
        "text": "有多數是民間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/327.wav",
        "text": "你們漲價的公信力會更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/328.wav",
        "text": "所以我們台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/329.wav",
        "text": "才會提出這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/330.wav",
        "text": "要二分之一通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/331.wav",
        "text": "你們不要以為我們是要掌權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/332.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/333.wav",
        "text": "這可以透過民間的力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/334.wav",
        "text": "去代替台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/335.wav",
        "text": "把台電的酸甜苦辣講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/336.wav",
        "text": "老百姓會聽的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/337.wav",
        "text": "但是你們怎麼講人家都不聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/338.wav",
        "text": "就剛才我所提出的綠能買了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/339.wav",
        "text": "六七塊錢但是賣三塊多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/340.wav",
        "text": "這樣做生意怎麼做都是賠錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/341.wav",
        "text": "這一定是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/342.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法共體時艱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/343.wav",
        "text": "請他們也降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/344.wav",
        "text": "我們這裡減少是不是就會拉低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/345.wav",
        "text": "\n現在變成是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/346.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望董事長和常次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/347.wav",
        "text": "既然你們要來做這些報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/348.wav",
        "text": "至於後面那1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/349.wav",
        "text": "我再看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/350.wav",
        "text": "大家好好商量一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/351.wav",
        "text": "反正既成事實的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/352.wav",
        "text": "要去做這些撥補或是追加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/353.wav",
        "text": "我想大家還是可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/354.wav",
        "text": "謝謝國成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/355.wav",
        "text": "國成剛剛已經接連問了很多問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/356.wav",
        "text": "特別是洪申翰洪委員一直在爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/357.wav",
        "text": "1,000億要併同這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/358.wav",
        "text": "像他也提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/359.wav",
        "text": "你不要併進來且討論完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/360.wav",
        "text": "追加了1,000億到時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/361.wav",
        "text": "又要追加另一個1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/362.wav",
        "text": "這等一下我們請連次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/363.wav",
        "text": "連次長或是文生來解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/364.wav",
        "text": "請玉珍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/365.wav",
        "text": "各位官員大家午安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/366.wav",
        "text": "台電是處於虧損的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/367.wav",
        "text": "金額已經超過400多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/368.wav",
        "text": "自從2022年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/369.wav",
        "text": "經濟部與能源署分別於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/370.wav",
        "text": "前瞻基礎建設計畫特別預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/371.wav",
        "text": "112年及113年公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/372.wav",
        "text": "和疫後的特別預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/373.wav",
        "text": "累積補助台電達3,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/374.wav",
        "text": "甚至在最近國際燃料價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/375.wav",
        "text": "台電成本又下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/376.wav",
        "text": "本會期還要追加千億預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/377.wav",
        "text": "給台電來彌補虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/378.wav",
        "text": "執政黨政府急著想要再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/379.wav",
        "text": "取代核能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/380.wav",
        "text": "卻未能兼顧能源供應之穩定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/381.wav",
        "text": "及成本控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/382.wav",
        "text": "土地等固定資產也沒有活化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/383.wav",
        "text": "導致台電光是114年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/384.wav",
        "text": "債務利息就高達321億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/385.wav",
        "text": "創下歷年新高近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/386.wav",
        "text": "電價還是漲了3次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/387.wav",
        "text": "漲幅超過3成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/388.wav",
        "text": "但是電價審議委員討論過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/389.wav",
        "text": "都沒有直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/390.wav",
        "text": "計算公式也不明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/391.wav",
        "text": "跟民生消費直接相關的產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/392.wav",
        "text": "這次漲價仍然影響數十萬產業的用電戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/393.wav",
        "text": "一定會影響民生物價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/394.wav",
        "text": "退一步來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/395.wav",
        "text": "也只能填補台電150億的黑洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/396.wav",
        "text": "連台電1年要付的利息的一半都不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/397.wav",
        "text": "根本都是杯水車薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/398.wav",
        "text": "可見台電的經營效益及財務管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/399.wav",
        "text": "有非常大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/400.wav",
        "text": "\n賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/401.wav",
        "text": "政府一直強調能源轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/402.wav",
        "text": "但能源政策不明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/403.wav",
        "text": "到現在仍靠持續上漲的電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/404.wav",
        "text": "還有撥補2兆來填補財務的漏洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/405.wav",
        "text": "繼續浪費人民的血汗錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/406.wav",
        "text": "執政黨捅出的國家級財務黑洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/407.wav",
        "text": "不該強迫人民買單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/408.wav",
        "text": "的國昌委員在上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/409.wav",
        "text": "就質詢過行政院長卓榮泰能源配比的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/410.wav",
        "text": "賴總統能源政策只剩下口號而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/411.wav",
        "text": "沒有計畫沒有路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/412.wav",
        "text": "更沒有具體的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/413.wav",
        "text": "但口號治國沒有辦法處理臺灣能源的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/414.wav",
        "text": "更沒有辦法解決一般民生經濟的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/415.wav",
        "text": "因此召開能源專報是非常必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/416.wav",
        "text": "的政策比貪汙更可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/417.wav",
        "text": "\n蔡政府2025年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/418.wav",
        "text": "再生能源20%的支票也是跳票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/419.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統開了一張新的支票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/420.wav",
        "text": "更加碼在2030年再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/421.wav",
        "text": "占比30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/422.wav",
        "text": "2050年到70%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/423.wav",
        "text": "請問要如何做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/424.wav",
        "text": "大家都是喊口號跟喊數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/425.wav",
        "text": "難道政府跳票都不用負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/426.wav",
        "text": "行政院必須針對能源配比的政策說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/427.wav",
        "text": "給民眾一個交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/428.wav",
        "text": "也要編列預算補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/429.wav",
        "text": "也編列預算補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/430.wav",
        "text": "所以我們歷年一直在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/431.wav",
        "text": "及虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/432.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分是我們要好好研議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/433.wav",
        "text": "以上報告謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/434.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/435.wav",
        "text": "所以這專報本來要就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/436.wav",
        "text": "賴清德政府的能源配比跟電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/437.wav",
        "text": "這個配比看起來問題滿多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/438.wav",
        "text": "可能不容易達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/439.wav",
        "text": "現在民進黨的黨團是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/440.wav",
        "text": "除了先將這部分解釋清楚之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/441.wav",
        "text": "也把1,000億的追加放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/442.wav",
        "text": "我們先來聽聽連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/443.wav",
        "text": "決定兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/444.wav",
        "text": "第一個專報要不要進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/445.wav",
        "text": "如果今天有共識我們就把專報排進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/446.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是洪委員提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/447.wav",
        "text": "專報的同時要不要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/448.wav",
        "text": "1,000億的追加放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/449.wav",
        "text": "沒有今天國民黨沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/450.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨排這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/451.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團也很有誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/452.wav",
        "text": "只是因為國民黨沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/453.wav",
        "text": "看起來不太可能達成什麼共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/454.wav",
        "text": "他們有簽到他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/455.wav",
        "text": "是協商要簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/456.wav",
        "text": "申翰他們國民黨有來簽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/457.wav",
        "text": "因為他們現在在開黨團會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/458.wav",
        "text": "他們是簽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/459.wav",
        "text": "不過我們兩個黨如果做了決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/460.wav",
        "text": "他們就會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/461.wav",
        "text": "有這種事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/462.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/463.wav",
        "text": "我們今天要決定的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/464.wav",
        "text": "要不要開這個專報對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/465.wav",
        "text": "你們如果同意專報就一定要進行了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/466.wav",
        "text": "國民黨不會反對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/467.wav",
        "text": "1,000億的追加預算要不要併案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/468.wav",
        "text": "他們解釋完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/469.wav",
        "text": "我們聽聽連次長跟文生董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/470.wav",
        "text": "我們就來做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/471.wav",
        "text": "做二選一這個決定好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/472.wav",
        "text": "是主席我要再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/473.wav",
        "text": "今天這個議案的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/474.wav",
        "text": "把這個議案等到禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/475.wav",
        "text": "找朝野的委員們黨團們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/476.wav",
        "text": "一起討論接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/477.wav",
        "text": "包括總預算前瞻預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/478.wav",
        "text": "台電追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/479.wav",
        "text": "接下來怎麼安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/480.wav",
        "text": "會有一個大致的時程規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/481.wav",
        "text": "併同1,000億的追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/482.wav",
        "text": "而不是獨立拉出來另外一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/483.wav",
        "text": "因為這是一個完整的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/484.wav",
        "text": "併同進去這事情我覺得我們可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/485.wav",
        "text": "把它分開不同天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/486.wav",
        "text": "過去有的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/487.wav",
        "text": "看大家怎麼去化解去和緩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/488.wav",
        "text": "我們一起把後面這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/489.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是比較周全的做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/490.wav",
        "text": "我們的看法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/491.wav",
        "text": "再一個是針對剛剛兩位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/492.wav",
        "text": "因為這個法當初是我們一起立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/493.wav",
        "text": "我說電業法第47條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/494.wav",
        "text": "剛剛不管國成委員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/495.wav",
        "text": "或是麥玉珍委員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/496.wav",
        "text": "都有講到這次的電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/497.wav",
        "text": "是大家朝野一起有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/498.wav",
        "text": "民間的委員過半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/499.wav",
        "text": "事實上這是10月的電價審議機制裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/500.wav",
        "text": "民間的審議委員也真的過半了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/501.wav",
        "text": "過半的民間委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/502.wav",
        "text": "也真的在這個審議會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/503.wav",
        "text": "發生了影響力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/504.wav",
        "text": "也不是都是行政部們想怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/505.wav",
        "text": "就全部照著過並不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/506.wav",
        "text": "罵了一頓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/507.wav",
        "text": "我們在今年7月通過的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/508.wav",
        "text": "大家都覺得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/509.wav",
        "text": "都覺得跨出了很重要的一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/510.wav",
        "text": "也覺得朝野合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/511.wav",
        "text": "結果怎麼過了3個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/512.wav",
        "text": "大家就把這事情全部罵了一頓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/513.wav",
        "text": "7月的時候不是大家都覺得很好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/514.wav",
        "text": "都覺得我們為電價審議機制的專業化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/515.wav",
        "text": "邁進了一大步嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/516.wav",
        "text": "當時不是都這樣覺得嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/517.wav",
        "text": "現在就是執行了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/518.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們先優先處理好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/519.wav",
        "text": "電價審議委員會的改革是兩大塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/520.wav",
        "text": "一個是民間跟專業要二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/521.wav",
        "text": "第二個更重要的是要公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/522.wav",
        "text": "所以他們在兩個禮拜內把它公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/523.wav",
        "text": "當天有紀錄大家會檢視沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/524.wav",
        "text": "事實上就是大家會檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/525.wav",
        "text": "那天他們到底夠不夠專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/526.wav",
        "text": "有沒有幫人民去看我們來檢視好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/527.wav",
        "text": "\n我們力求簡短請連次長先來好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/528.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下趕快做決定謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/529.wav",
        "text": "剛剛大家提到電力能源配比政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/530.wav",
        "text": "在整個能源轉型政策還是用再生能源為主軸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/531.wav",
        "text": "同時搭配低碳天然氣發電並"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/532.wav",
        "text": "推動地熱氫能等新能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/533.wav",
        "text": "來穩定供電多元綠能跟減煤減碳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/534.wav",
        "text": "天然氣五成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/535.wav",
        "text": "再生能源三成燃煤二成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/536.wav",
        "text": "至於目前再生能源的推動狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/537.wav",
        "text": "已經有推13.6GW"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/538.wav",
        "text": "離岸風電也有360座風機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/539.wav",
        "text": "6個淺層地熱案場還有十大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/540.wav",
        "text": "地熱淺層目前正在進行探勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/541.wav",
        "text": "尤其我們現在是由國營事業先行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/542.wav",
        "text": "目前正請中油台電積極在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/543.wav",
        "text": "水力發電目前也有一些初步的成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/544.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛剛很多委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/545.wav",
        "text": "其實就是新的電價審議下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/546.wav",
        "text": "我們外部委員有超過一半以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/547.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告一下那天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/548.wav",
        "text": "大家初步討論完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/549.wav",
        "text": "這次電價調整是要秉持照顧民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/550.wav",
        "text": "跟穩定物價兼顧產業競爭力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/551.wav",
        "text": "這兩個原則來進行調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/552.wav",
        "text": "同時我們針對產業用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/553.wav",
        "text": "不是只有考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/554.wav",
        "text": "產業用電的成長衰退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/555.wav",
        "text": "不會是考慮到他們銷售的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/556.wav",
        "text": "用這樣的幾個元素來做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/557.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛說的穩定物價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/558.wav",
        "text": "所以跟民生有關內需的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/559.wav",
        "text": "像跟食品有關的製造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/560.wav",
        "text": "還有攤販量販店超市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/561.wav",
        "text": "反正就是民眾常常會去的像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/562.wav",
        "text": "超市這些就是凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/563.wav",
        "text": "另外針對農漁學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/564.wav",
        "text": "還有社福團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/565.wav",
        "text": "編列經費支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/566.wav",
        "text": "根據這幾個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/567.wav",
        "text": "我們做了這樣的一個調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/568.wav",
        "text": "當然很多是根據前面的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/569.wav",
        "text": "我們也考慮到社會的一些聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/570.wav",
        "text": "為了要維持一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/571.wav",
        "text": "也是跟民生息息相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/572.wav",
        "text": "宿業本來就是凍漲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/573.wav",
        "text": "\n跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/574.wav",
        "text": "這一次外部委員是過半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/575.wav",
        "text": "我是那天的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/576.wav",
        "text": "我還特別問了3次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/577.wav",
        "text": "委員這個東西大家同不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/578.wav",
        "text": "大家一致說同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/579.wav",
        "text": "而且我們差不多開了3個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/580.wav",
        "text": "呈現給外界做檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/581.wav",
        "text": "以上是我的初步報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/582.wav",
        "text": "連次長是那天電價審議會的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/583.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講醫院本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/584.wav",
        "text": "要調整後來就不漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/585.wav",
        "text": "老實講今天交通部也有人來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/586.wav",
        "text": "臺鐵多了多少2.28億對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/587.wav",
        "text": "這可能找時間他們又要去問次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/588.wav",
        "text": "跟電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/589.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/590.wav",
        "text": "今天可能來不及了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/591.wav",
        "text": "我們找時間再看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/592.wav",
        "text": "可能內部自己要再檢討一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/593.wav",
        "text": "好不好\n讓文生講完後我們就趕快做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/594.wav",
        "text": "到底要不要到禮拜五去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/595.wav",
        "text": "還是我們就是今天讓它通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/596.wav",
        "text": "要不要併案這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/597.wav",
        "text": "事實上真的在臺灣是孤行獨市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/598.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在國內沒得比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/599.wav",
        "text": "就要跟全世界做比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/600.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/601.wav",
        "text": "那種電價動輒超過5塊新臺幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/602.wav",
        "text": "德國超過10塊新臺幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/603.wav",
        "text": "倍數在算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/604.wav",
        "text": "我們最容易benchmark的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/605.wav",
        "text": "其實是韓國韓國電力公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/606.wav",
        "text": "跟臺灣比較相像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/607.wav",
        "text": "工業電價比它低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/608.wav",
        "text": "民生的電價更是低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/609.wav",
        "text": "他們的民生電價是3.99元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/610.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是2.77元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/611.wav",
        "text": "這是平均電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/612.wav",
        "text": "其實我們有基礎的電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/613.wav",
        "text": "就是500度以下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/614.wav",
        "text": "現在電價的電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/615.wav",
        "text": "比20年前的價格還要低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/616.wav",
        "text": "比2004年的價格還要低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/617.wav",
        "text": "這個電價結構確實需要去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/618.wav",
        "text": "因為這20年來臺灣大概所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/619.wav",
        "text": "成本都漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/620.wav",
        "text": "在這20年間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/621.wav",
        "text": "其實是有一定程度的波動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/622.wav",
        "text": "\n站在國營事業的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/623.wav",
        "text": "立法院對國營事業的營運狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/624.wav",
        "text": "有任何需要了解的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/625.wav",
        "text": "我們都會來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/626.wav",
        "text": "我也跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/627.wav",
        "text": "我們現在談的是院會的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/628.wav",
        "text": "其實我們下個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/629.wav",
        "text": "會去經濟委員會報告電價專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/630.wav",
        "text": "也就是說電價專報是必然會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/631.wav",
        "text": "現在台電遇到的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/632.wav",
        "text": "沒有反應所產生的落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/633.wav",
        "text": "2023年差了1,001億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/634.wav",
        "text": "這包含住宅跟小店家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/635.wav",
        "text": "2024年（今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/636.wav",
        "text": "其中有一個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/637.wav",
        "text": "因為國際燃料價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/638.wav",
        "text": "在這一段時間有稍微下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/639.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也天天盯著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/640.wav",
        "text": "前一陣子油價突然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/641.wav",
        "text": "昨天又掉下來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/642.wav",
        "text": "我們也是在看著這整個波動的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/643.wav",
        "text": "我們估算今年大概800億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/644.wav",
        "text": "所以整個來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/645.wav",
        "text": "那個1,000億的追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/646.wav",
        "text": "其實是高度地fit"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/647.wav",
        "text": "民生電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/648.wav",
        "text": "所承擔的政策責任而提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/649.wav",
        "text": "我想在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/650.wav",
        "text": "特別跟各位委員做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/651.wav",
        "text": "\n各位委員另外關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/652.wav",
        "text": "其實細節我很願意做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/653.wav",
        "text": "因為現在企業在買的綠電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/654.wav",
        "text": "他們在市場買的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/655.wav",
        "text": "雖然不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/656.wav",
        "text": "但你會看到從台電的躉購長期來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/657.wav",
        "text": "除了扶植新的再生能源產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/658.wav",
        "text": "可能它在前期的價格比較高以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/659.wav",
        "text": "後段現在民間在市場上買的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/660.wav",
        "text": "不見得會比躉購的費率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/661.wav",
        "text": "我們願意分析出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/662.wav",
        "text": "當然我們也接到政策指示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/663.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要支持國內的產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/664.wav",
        "text": "擁有再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/665.wav",
        "text": "有RE的憑證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/666.wav",
        "text": "可能台電躉購的這些相關的再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/667.wav",
        "text": "也必須做一定程度的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/668.wav",
        "text": "來支援我們的產業取得再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/669.wav",
        "text": "我非常願意跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/670.wav",
        "text": "它可能的走向會走到什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/671.wav",
        "text": "至於大家很關心的核電問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/672.wav",
        "text": "我還是要回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/673.wav",
        "text": "我們就是要靜待政策決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/674.wav",
        "text": "我想在這邊特別跟委員做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/675.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/676.wav",
        "text": "他應該很想要來專報對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/677.wav",
        "text": "如果就剛剛林國成委員跟麥玉珍委員提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/678.wav",
        "text": "我們為什麼當初要提這個能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/679.wav",
        "text": "就是因為我們覺得現在的能源配比是有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/680.wav",
        "text": "剛剛國成不是有講嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/681.wav",
        "text": "你看再生能源才增加了5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/682.wav",
        "text": "結果你們的能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/683.wav",
        "text": "現在說2年2個月以後要增加10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/684.wav",
        "text": "不可能達到嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/685.wav",
        "text": "我不要多話了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/686.wav",
        "text": "我主持會議不要多話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/687.wav",
        "text": "好不好現在看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/688.wav",
        "text": "台電跟經濟部認為應該要有專報對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/689.wav",
        "text": "他們希望把事情講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/690.wav",
        "text": "對台灣民眾黨來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/691.wav",
        "text": "我們也認為應該要有專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/692.wav",
        "text": "只是民進黨現在提要把追加的1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/693.wav",
        "text": "現在到底是要兩個還是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/694.wav",
        "text": "第一個剛剛其實我們大家滿充分地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/695.wav",
        "text": "了彼此我覺得也針對很多的問題去做了一些釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/696.wav",
        "text": "我自己是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/697.wav",
        "text": "今天因為第一個國民黨也沒來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/698.wav",
        "text": "坦白說不知道他們的看法怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/699.wav",
        "text": "我不知道為什麼他簽個到就跑了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/700.wav",
        "text": "我是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/701.wav",
        "text": "等到禮拜五朝野的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/702.wav",
        "text": "到時候會做一個比較完整的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/703.wav",
        "text": "好幾個項目都會一整個排出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/704.wav",
        "text": "到時候看怎麼規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/705.wav",
        "text": "因為1,000億一定是需要專報的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/706.wav",
        "text": "院長一定是要來報的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/707.wav",
        "text": "我是說1,000億追加減的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/708.wav",
        "text": "院長一定是要來報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/709.wav",
        "text": "我們並不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/710.wav",
        "text": "如果今天要有這個能源配比跟電價機制的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/711.wav",
        "text": "就併在那裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/712.wav",
        "text": "用併同的方式併在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/713.wav",
        "text": "我們不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/714.wav",
        "text": "人家搞不好單獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/715.wav",
        "text": "他們下禮拜就要去經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/716.wav",
        "text": "針對這個議題報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/717.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/718.wav",
        "text": "不不要只有我們經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/719.wav",
        "text": "主席我要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/720.wav",
        "text": "大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/721.wav",
        "text": "也經過了一個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/722.wav",
        "text": "第一個在報告上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/723.wav",
        "text": "其實一定會針對這個部分多所著墨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/724.wav",
        "text": "清楚地說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/725.wav",
        "text": "而且是由院長來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/726.wav",
        "text": "如果併在一起的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/727.wav",
        "text": "一樣也會報告到這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/728.wav",
        "text": "要問的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/729.wav",
        "text": "要質詢的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/730.wav",
        "text": "也一定都質詢得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/731.wav",
        "text": "就算沒有報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/732.wav",
        "text": "前面幾個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/733.wav",
        "text": "大家也質詢非常非常多次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/734.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/735.wav",
        "text": "也都可以質詢得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/736.wav",
        "text": "所以不管是報告也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/737.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/738.wav",
        "text": "把它併到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/739.wav",
        "text": "1,000億追加減的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/740.wav",
        "text": "報告裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/741.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/742.wav",
        "text": "我們可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/743.wav",
        "text": "我們不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/744.wav",
        "text": "把它分開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/745.wav",
        "text": "就是等到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/746.wav",
        "text": "朝野聚餐以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/747.wav",
        "text": "再來一併討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/748.wav",
        "text": "我們的看法是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/749.wav",
        "text": "現在總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/750.wav",
        "text": "被退回程序委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/751.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/752.wav",
        "text": "00億一定進得來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/753.wav",
        "text": "真的不單獨先處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/754.wav",
        "text": "這個先拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/755.wav",
        "text": "我們先把那個專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/756.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/757.wav",
        "text": "所以我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/758.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/759.wav",
        "text": "我現在講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/760.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨團的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/761.wav",
        "text": "我們絕對不會迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/762.wav",
        "text": "針對能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/763.wav",
        "text": "能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/764.wav",
        "text": "電價機制的報告跟詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/765.wav",
        "text": "沒有迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/766.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/767.wav",
        "text": "下禮拜在委員會就有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/768.wav",
        "text": "都沒有迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/769.wav",
        "text": "只是我們針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/770.wav",
        "text": "我們的主張就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/771.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨沒來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/772.wav",
        "text": "我們把我們的態度表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/773.wav",
        "text": "了國民黨都沒來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/774.wav",
        "text": "我們也很有誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/775.wav",
        "text": "在這邊把我們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/776.wav",
        "text": "很完整地跟大家報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/777.wav",
        "text": "我是建議這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/778.wav",
        "text": "我們可能也要先離開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/779.wav",
        "text": "我是建議主席這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/780.wav",
        "text": "申翰的這些建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/781.wav",
        "text": "當然我們還是可以考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/782.wav",
        "text": "但是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/783.wav",
        "text": "我認為專報歸專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/784.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/785.wav",
        "text": "因為兩院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/786.wav",
        "text": "跟三黨的黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/787.wav",
        "text": "鞭有一個見面的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/788.wav",
        "text": "因為不影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/789.wav",
        "text": "我們還是照樣專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/790.wav",
        "text": "那申翰提的禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/791.wav",
        "text": "才請主席把它併進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/792.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/793.wav",
        "text": "就變得比較圓滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/794.wav",
        "text": "那1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/795.wav",
        "text": "你現在把它併進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/796.wav",
        "text": "說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/797.wav",
        "text": "這樣也太衝動了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/798.wav",
        "text": "因為他們談得怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/799.wav",
        "text": "大人談得怎麼樣都不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/800.wav",
        "text": "我們就去做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/801.wav",
        "text": "這樣也不太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/802.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/803.wav",
        "text": "通過這個專報還是照報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/804.wav",
        "text": "因為這個是院會交下來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/805.wav",
        "text": "我們今天討論的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/806.wav",
        "text": "你願不願意來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/807.wav",
        "text": "如果院長也願意來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/808.wav",
        "text": "把這個1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/809.wav",
        "text": "這個也是OK的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/810.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議單獨通過這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/811.wav",
        "text": "那些就等禮拜一以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/812.wav",
        "text": "林次長跟曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/813.wav",
        "text": "你們回去反映一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/814.wav",
        "text": "包括經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/815.wav",
        "text": "跟玉珍不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/816.wav",
        "text": "我講一下不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/817.wav",
        "text": "因為黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/818.wav",
        "text": "我也算三長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/819.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不管是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/820.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商跟兩院見面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/821.wav",
        "text": "還是沒有見面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/822.wav",
        "text": "都會來找我們的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/823.wav",
        "text": "才能達到共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/824.wav",
        "text": "才能有結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/825.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/826.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/827.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/828.wav",
        "text": "有一個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/829.wav",
        "text": "達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/830.wav",
        "text": "上去再跟我們三長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/831.wav",
        "text": "我們再去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/832.wav",
        "text": "才能圓滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/833.wav",
        "text": "這個就是這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/834.wav",
        "text": "各個部會找我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/835.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/836.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天有這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/837.wav",
        "text": "力做黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/838.wav",
        "text": "但是我們沒辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/839.wav",
        "text": "大家有誠意一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/840.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/841.wav",
        "text": "我們就要回報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/842.wav",
        "text": "不能說我們總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/843.wav",
        "text": "退回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/844.wav",
        "text": "你們也沒有任何動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/845.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/846.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/847.wav",
        "text": "對我們立法院的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/848.wav",
        "text": "一點尊重都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/849.wav",
        "text": "這個就是我們要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/850.wav",
        "text": "做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/851.wav",
        "text": "三黨協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/852.wav",
        "text": "但是有人簽名卻沒有到場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/853.wav",
        "text": "這個協商也沒辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/854.wav",
        "text": "他們沒有來足人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/855.wav",
        "text": "但是我們民眾黨很有誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/856.wav",
        "text": "來聽聽你們講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/857.wav",
        "text": "的聽聽看我們是不是可以幫你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/858.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/859.wav",
        "text": "我們的用意很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/860.wav",
        "text": "很理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/861.wav",
        "text": "也希望達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/862.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才要辦這樣子的一個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/863.wav",
        "text": "我們8個就來3個了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/864.wav",
        "text": "我們是很有誠意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/865.wav",
        "text": "也希望你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/866.wav",
        "text": "提出你們的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/867.wav",
        "text": "或者需要我們去協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/868.wav",
        "text": "的我們有機會也可以幫大家講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/869.wav",
        "text": "這個不是對的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/870.wav",
        "text": "不是為了反對而反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/871.wav",
        "text": "啊是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/872.wav",
        "text": "大家都有充分地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/873.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/874.wav",
        "text": "不只是洪申翰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/875.wav",
        "text": "跟台灣民眾黨立委的對談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/876.wav",
        "text": "也都非常理性務實科學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/877.wav",
        "text": "還有台電這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/878.wav",
        "text": "嘛我這樣聽下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/879.wav",
        "text": "是希望有一個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/880.wav",
        "text": "那要不要把這個1,000億併進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/881.wav",
        "text": "你們回去跟院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/882.wav",
        "text": "跟經濟部那邊也再討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/883.wav",
        "text": "玉珍是幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/884.wav",
        "text": "他禮拜五會在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/885.wav",
        "text": "你可以把你們的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/886.wav",
        "text": "建議跟玉珍說請玉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/887.wav",
        "text": "我們就等禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/888.wav",
        "text": "看他們協商怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/889.wav",
        "text": "之後我們再來做最後決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/890.wav",
        "text": "好不好好我宣讀一下最後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/891.wav",
        "text": "今天沒辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/892.wav",
        "text": "送請韓國瑜院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/893.wav",
        "text": "協商會議結束以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/894.wav",
        "text": "我們再來進一步討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/895.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16163/896.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/0.wav",
        "text": "r民眾黨這邊就是吳春城委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1.wav",
        "text": "國民黨這個部分是黃仁委員已經簽到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/2.wav",
        "text": "他大概有事先離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/3.wav",
        "text": "可能羅智強委員稍後也會進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/4.wav",
        "text": "\n今天的協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/5.wav",
        "text": "是因為民眾黨團針對近日澳洲及荷蘭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/6.wav",
        "text": "以今年7月IPAC組織的決議範本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/7.wav",
        "text": "通過了聯大2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/8.wav",
        "text": "並不涉臺這樣的動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/9.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨黨團希望能夠在院會作成決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/10.wav",
        "text": "重申我國認為聯大2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/11.wav",
        "text": "並不涉臺之立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/12.wav",
        "text": "那是在國會外交上的一個重大突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/13.wav",
        "text": "我們也非常感謝這麼多友臺國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/14.wav",
        "text": "他們在這時釋出的善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/15.wav",
        "text": "但是我們自己的努力其實才是關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/16.wav",
        "text": "這些努力也非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/17.wav",
        "text": "我跟在座的范雲立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/18.wav",
        "text": "我們同為IPAC的Co-Chair"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/19.wav",
        "text": "我們也都明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/20.wav",
        "text": "IPAC的這些member"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/21.wav",
        "text": "我們自己是不是應該有一些具體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/22.wav",
        "text": "回應跟作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/23.wav",
        "text": "所以民眾黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/24.wav",
        "text": "除了對2758號決議文的正確解讀之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/25.wav",
        "text": "當然我們也希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/26.wav",
        "text": "有機會邀請行政院院長到立法院來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/27.wav",
        "text": "跟我們報告臺灣參與國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/28.wav",
        "text": "目前的一些工作進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/29.wav",
        "text": "因為這是本黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/30.wav",
        "text": "我是不是先請本黨團的幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/31.wav",
        "text": "吳春城委員先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/32.wav",
        "text": "及各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/33.wav",
        "text": "就是我們台灣民眾黨的一個提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/34.wav",
        "text": "來做這個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/35.wav",
        "text": "這個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/36.wav",
        "text": "我是不是還是唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/37.wav",
        "text": "因為我是代表台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/38.wav",
        "text": "及現在聯合國的這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/39.wav",
        "text": "大家能有點共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/40.wav",
        "text": "我唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/41.wav",
        "text": "兩岸之間的歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/42.wav",
        "text": "和政治糾葛由來已久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/43.wav",
        "text": "中華民國在台灣歷經民主化之洗禮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/44.wav",
        "text": "實現了主權在民之原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/45.wav",
        "text": "台灣的民主自由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/46.wav",
        "text": "更獲得國際社會的肯認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/47.wav",
        "text": "也因此台灣的國際處境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/48.wav",
        "text": "近年來獲得了諸多國際關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/49.wav",
        "text": "基於聯合國憲章所揭櫫之原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/50.wav",
        "text": "台灣本應獲得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/51.wav",
        "text": "更多國際參與之空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/52.wav",
        "text": "台灣人民亦應享有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/53.wav",
        "text": "與他國國民相同之國際參與權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/54.wav",
        "text": "今年7月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/55.wav",
        "text": "『對中政策跨國議會聯盟』（IPAC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/56.wav",
        "text": "）在台北召開的大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/57.wav",
        "text": "通過決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/58.wav",
        "text": "『1971年的聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/59.wav",
        "text": "第2758號決議處理的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/60.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國的外交地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/61.wav",
        "text": "並沒有裁定中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/62.wav",
        "text": "擁有對台灣的主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/63.wav",
        "text": "也沒有對台灣未來參與聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/64.wav",
        "text": "或其他國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/65.wav",
        "text": "做出任何認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/66.wav",
        "text": "澳大利亞及荷蘭國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/67.wav",
        "text": "相繼以IPAC決議為範本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/68.wav",
        "text": "通過聯大2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/69.wav",
        "text": "並不涉台之動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/70.wav",
        "text": "這是我國國會外交上的重大突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/71.wav",
        "text": "我們樂見並感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/72.wav",
        "text": "世界各國對台灣的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/73.wav",
        "text": "我們也認知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/74.wav",
        "text": "我國政府自身的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/75.wav",
        "text": "才是真正的關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/76.wav",
        "text": "因此在此基礎上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/77.wav",
        "text": "立法院要求行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/78.wav",
        "text": "一積極爭取有意義地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/79.wav",
        "text": "參與各種國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/80.wav",
        "text": "打開中華民國台灣之國際參與空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/81.wav",
        "text": "二在本會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/82.wav",
        "text": "邀請行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/83.wav",
        "text": "針對台灣參與『聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/84.wav",
        "text": "在立法院進行專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/85.wav",
        "text": "今天提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/86.wav",
        "text": "做政黨協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/87.wav",
        "text": "是否有當敬請公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/88.wav",
        "text": "我先確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/89.wav",
        "text": "已經簽到的黃仁委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/90.wav",
        "text": "有沒有書面資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/91.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/92.wav",
        "text": "一起來出席今天民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/93.wav",
        "text": "主持的協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/94.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照這個次序好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/95.wav",
        "text": "請范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/96.wav",
        "text": "民進黨最早有個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/97.wav",
        "text": "後來民眾黨有個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/98.wav",
        "text": "然後國民黨也有個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/99.wav",
        "text": "以我個人的解讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/100.wav",
        "text": "覺得國民黨版本是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/101.wav",
        "text": "差異最大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/102.wav",
        "text": "差異最大怎麼講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/103.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨跟民進黨版本很接近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/104.wav",
        "text": "而是說國民黨的版本是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/105.wav",
        "text": "在IPAC所發動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/106.wav",
        "text": "就是希望其會員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/107.wav",
        "text": "能夠在各國議會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/108.wav",
        "text": "支持臺灣的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/109.wav",
        "text": "跟聯合國2758號有關的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/110.wav",
        "text": "偏離最遠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/111.wav",
        "text": "以我個人的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/112.wav",
        "text": "我們民進黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/113.wav",
        "text": "是最接近的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/114.wav",
        "text": "\n回來講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/115.wav",
        "text": "大家可能對於IPAC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/116.wav",
        "text": "在今年7月30號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/117.wav",
        "text": "除了我跟陳昭姿委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/118.wav",
        "text": "共同被接受成為Co"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/119.wav",
        "text": "（共同主席）之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/120.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的這個大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/121.wav",
        "text": "就是7月30號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/122.wav",
        "text": "通過的modelresolution"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/123.wav",
        "text": "到底內容有幾個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/124.wav",
        "text": "如果我們依照IPAC的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/125.wav",
        "text": "理論上應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/126.wav",
        "text": "我跟陳昭姿委員要提出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/127.wav",
        "text": "幾乎非常接近的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/128.wav",
        "text": "那它到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/129.wav",
        "text": "它基本上有三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/130.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分主要是在講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/131.wav",
        "text": "回顧2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/132.wav",
        "text": "只有處理PRC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/133.wav",
        "text": "因為中國跟PRC跟ROC太複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/134.wav",
        "text": "我們就用英文講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/135.wav",
        "text": "PRC是China在UN"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/136.wav",
        "text": "唯一的正當代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/137.wav",
        "text": "裡面有四個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/138.wav",
        "text": "第一並未提及臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/139.wav",
        "text": "第二並未處理臺灣的政治地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/140.wav",
        "text": "第三並未建立PRC對臺灣的主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/141.wav",
        "text": "及臺灣人民在UN的參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/142.wav",
        "text": "是緘默的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/143.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/144.wav",
        "text": "回顧2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/145.wav",
        "text": "到底當時是在處理什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/146.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分表達非常地遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/147.wav",
        "text": "兩點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/148.wav",
        "text": "過去PRC的代表持續扭曲2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/149.wav",
        "text": "用它來支持一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/150.wav",
        "text": "第二PRC的代表扭曲歷史文件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/151.wav",
        "text": "將臺灣改為中國之一省臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/152.wav",
        "text": "這是對PRC扭曲2758號決議文的遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/153.wav",
        "text": "跟他們在國際做的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/154.wav",
        "text": "第三點就是未來的解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/155.wav",
        "text": "要解決什麼四個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/156.wav",
        "text": "第一2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/157.wav",
        "text": "並未建立國際法的一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/158.wav",
        "text": "主要在處理PRC在UN代表China"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/159.wav",
        "text": "第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/160.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何的法律阻止臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/161.wav",
        "text": "在國際組織的參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/162.wav",
        "text": "第三點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/163.wav",
        "text": "2758號決議文沒有涉及任何主權國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/164.wav",
        "text": "如何處理與臺灣的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/165.wav",
        "text": "第四點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/166.wav",
        "text": "聯合國缺乏2,350萬臺灣人的有效參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/167.wav",
        "text": "這件事必須緊急被修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/168.wav",
        "text": "\n所以是有這三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/169.wav",
        "text": "那回來看這三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/170.wav",
        "text": "是不是民進黨版本的最接近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/171.wav",
        "text": "我個人的看法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/172.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的非常地偏離"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/173.wav",
        "text": "剛剛為什麼我們要講TaiwanPRC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/174.wav",
        "text": "其實就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/175.wav",
        "text": "你都講中國是非常困擾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/176.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/177.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/178.wav",
        "text": "當時2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/179.wav",
        "text": "只有講ChiangKai-shek"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/180.wav",
        "text": "就是說蔣介石政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/181.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/182.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/183.wav",
        "text": "國民黨能夠回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/184.wav",
        "text": "國際現在支持臺灣的民主浪潮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/185.wav",
        "text": "既然要處理2758號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/186.wav",
        "text": "已經有這麼多的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/187.wav",
        "text": "這麼努力地在他們的國會動員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/188.wav",
        "text": "然後一起來通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/189.wav",
        "text": "而且用非常高的比數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/190.wav",
        "text": "今天國民黨沒有任何一個代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/191.wav",
        "text": "敢到這現場表達他的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/192.wav",
        "text": "我個人覺得非常遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/193.wav",
        "text": "我希望民眾黨的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/194.wav",
        "text": "跟民進黨的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/195.wav",
        "text": "我們可以就回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/196.wav",
        "text": "IPAC的modelresolution"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/197.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/198.wav",
        "text": "我覺得非常接近IPAC的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/199.wav",
        "text": "就是因為我們最後一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/200.wav",
        "text": "是回到它的緊急呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/201.wav",
        "text": "聯合國的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/202.wav",
        "text": "因為它前面這麼長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/203.wav",
        "text": "不需要完全提及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/204.wav",
        "text": "至少我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/205.wav",
        "text": "已經通過的荷蘭跟澳洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/206.wav",
        "text": "的比較簡短版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/207.wav",
        "text": "我希望民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/208.wav",
        "text": "能夠回到IPAC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/209.wav",
        "text": "這個modelresolution"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/210.wav",
        "text": "我也跟大家講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/211.wav",
        "text": "其實IPAC有希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/212.wav",
        "text": "我跟昭姿委員來提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/213.wav",
        "text": "我嘗試弄了一個整合的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/214.wav",
        "text": "民進黨這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/215.wav",
        "text": "是非常自由的委員要提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/216.wav",
        "text": "我們邱議瑩委員也有一個提案"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/217.wav",
        "text": "可是民眾黨方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/218.wav",
        "text": "好像沒有這個自由度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/219.wav",
        "text": "我的了解就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/220.wav",
        "text": "你們的總召好像很反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/221.wav",
        "text": "當然實情是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/222.wav",
        "text": "我沒有辦法具體確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/223.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/224.wav",
        "text": "回到IPAC的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/225.wav",
        "text": "modelresolution"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/226.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/227.wav",
        "text": "世界民主國家如何努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/228.wav",
        "text": "在議會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/229.wav",
        "text": "主要精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/230.wav",
        "text": "以上我就先發言到這兒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/231.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/232.wav",
        "text": "委員還原當日IPAC決議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/233.wav",
        "text": "主要精神跟內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/234.wav",
        "text": "我想其實兩個黨的差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/235.wav",
        "text": "沒有很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/236.wav",
        "text": "只是要進一步地論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/237.wav",
        "text": "把所謂不涉臺的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/238.wav",
        "text": "再釐清得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/239.wav",
        "text": "我們現在歡迎國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/240.wav",
        "text": "葉元之委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/241.wav",
        "text": "參與今天的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/242.wav",
        "text": "謝謝你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/243.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/244.wav",
        "text": "您是要先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/245.wav",
        "text": "還是我繼續讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/246.wav",
        "text": "禮貌上是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/247.wav",
        "text": "因為我們民眾黨已經發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/248.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的提案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/249.wav",
        "text": "謝謝葉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/250.wav",
        "text": "那就沈伯洋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/251.wav",
        "text": "就麻煩你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/252.wav",
        "text": "他說沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/253.wav",
        "text": "他說OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/254.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/255.wav",
        "text": "我簡短講就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/256.wav",
        "text": "我們今天來的人比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/257.wav",
        "text": "我講兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/258.wav",
        "text": "第一件事情就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/259.wav",
        "text": "因為各黨團的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/260.wav",
        "text": "所以我們當然還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/261.wav",
        "text": "院長能夠直接來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/262.wav",
        "text": "整個三個的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/263.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/264.wav",
        "text": "但是因為現在院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/265.wav",
        "text": "還沒召開協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/266.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就深入細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/267.wav",
        "text": "因為民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/268.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/269.wav",
        "text": "稍微比較像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/270.wav",
        "text": "那國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/271.wav",
        "text": "如果民進黨的版本在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/272.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨大概在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/273.wav",
        "text": "國民黨大概在窗戶外面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/274.wav",
        "text": "版本差距實在太大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/275.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/276.wav",
        "text": "可能會滿重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/277.wav",
        "text": "\n但是我覺得2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/278.wav",
        "text": "有一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/279.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/280.wav",
        "text": "就是在譴責中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/281.wav",
        "text": "扭曲2758這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/282.wav",
        "text": "所以其實全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/283.wav",
        "text": "他們聲明其實都很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/284.wav",
        "text": "他們就一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/285.wav",
        "text": "他們在譴責中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/286.wav",
        "text": "就譴責中國在曲解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/287.wav",
        "text": "就那麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/288.wav",
        "text": "所以如果說我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/289.wav",
        "text": "接下這個球"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/290.wav",
        "text": "其實我們只要發一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/291.wav",
        "text": "簡單的聲明說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/292.wav",
        "text": "我們也跟著世界各國譴責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/293.wav",
        "text": "當然我們可以把它寫得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/294.wav",
        "text": "稍微比較完整一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/295.wav",
        "text": "因為畢竟是跟臺灣有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/296.wav",
        "text": "所以我們可以把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/297.wav",
        "text": "立場講得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/298.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/299.wav",
        "text": "針對民眾黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/300.wav",
        "text": "我先說我對民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/301.wav",
        "text": "版本的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/302.wav",
        "text": "我沒有什麼太大的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/303.wav",
        "text": "因為內容說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/304.wav",
        "text": "2758號講了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/305.wav",
        "text": "我們希望我們的外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/306.wav",
        "text": "能夠努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/307.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠打開國際空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/308.wav",
        "text": "這完全是正確的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/309.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在是要把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/310.wav",
        "text": "擺在一個脈絡下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/311.wav",
        "text": "就是國際情勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/312.wav",
        "text": "因為國際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/313.wav",
        "text": "現在每一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/314.wav",
        "text": "都是在跟你講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/315.wav",
        "text": "譴責中國這一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/316.wav",
        "text": "譴責中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/317.wav",
        "text": "譴責中國這一個強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/318.wav",
        "text": "放在這個裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/319.wav",
        "text": "就會變成那天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/320.wav",
        "text": "我看樂樂法利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/321.wav",
        "text": "就像我們現在大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/322.wav",
        "text": "在海灘上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/323.wav",
        "text": "結果有鯊魚來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/324.wav",
        "text": "現在每一個人都發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/325.wav",
        "text": "都說有鯊魚來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/326.wav",
        "text": "有鯊魚來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/327.wav",
        "text": "結果我們自己出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/328.wav",
        "text": "一個版本說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/329.wav",
        "text": "天氣那麼熱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/330.wav",
        "text": "有沒有塗防曬油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/331.wav",
        "text": "天氣熱要塗防曬油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/332.wav",
        "text": "是完全正確的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/333.wav",
        "text": "但理論上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/334.wav",
        "text": "我們應該先把鯊魚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/335.wav",
        "text": "擊退之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/336.wav",
        "text": "然後我們在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/337.wav",
        "text": "沙灘上生存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/338.wav",
        "text": "我們需要塗防曬油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/339.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/340.wav",
        "text": "就有點像是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/341.wav",
        "text": "有鯊魚來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/342.wav",
        "text": "但我們也是鯊魚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/343.wav",
        "text": "大概是這種感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/344.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/345.wav",
        "text": "在這幾個主要的方向上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/346.wav",
        "text": "如果不同的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/347.wav",
        "text": "我們很難達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/348.wav",
        "text": "一個共同的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/349.wav",
        "text": "我們民進黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/350.wav",
        "text": "版本的第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/351.wav",
        "text": "第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/352.wav",
        "text": "其實這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/353.wav",
        "text": "都是在堅決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/354.wav",
        "text": "然後也是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/355.wav",
        "text": "跟世界各國站在一起說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/356.wav",
        "text": "大家都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/357.wav",
        "text": "中國在扭曲2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/358.wav",
        "text": "我們也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/359.wav",
        "text": "中國在扭曲2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/360.wav",
        "text": "其實一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/361.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該就可以結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/362.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/363.wav",
        "text": "把這個整合進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/364.wav",
        "text": "然後後面再去提到說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/365.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/366.wav",
        "text": "應該做好什麼準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/367.wav",
        "text": "這聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/368.wav",
        "text": "我覺得就滿合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/369.wav",
        "text": "所以這大概是我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/370.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/371.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/372.wav",
        "text": "我知道您加了一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/373.wav",
        "text": "就是對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/374.wav",
        "text": "你也提到剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/375.wav",
        "text": "可能最後是院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/376.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/377.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/378.wav",
        "text": "還是有意義的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/379.wav",
        "text": "大家就是先做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/380.wav",
        "text": "一個初步協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/381.wav",
        "text": "歡迎羅智強委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/382.wav",
        "text": "出席今天的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/383.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/384.wav",
        "text": "民進黨委員已經發言了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/385.wav",
        "text": "兩位民進黨的委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/386.wav",
        "text": "是不是羅委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/387.wav",
        "text": "還是葉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/388.wav",
        "text": "我們來交錯發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/389.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/390.wav",
        "text": "羅委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/391.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/392.wav",
        "text": "抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/393.wav",
        "text": "因為前面有行程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/394.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/395.wav",
        "text": "我不太確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/396.wav",
        "text": "前面講了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/397.wav",
        "text": "但是我想說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/398.wav",
        "text": "今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/399.wav",
        "text": "大家朝野一起來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/400.wav",
        "text": "來開拓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/401.wav",
        "text": "中華民國的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/402.wav",
        "text": "外交空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/403.wav",
        "text": "國民黨都非常樂觀其成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/404.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/405.wav",
        "text": "親愛的賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/406.wav",
        "text": "都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/407.wav",
        "text": "願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/408.wav",
        "text": "拋棄過去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/409.wav",
        "text": "臺獨神主牌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/410.wav",
        "text": "直接就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/411.wav",
        "text": "中華民國是祖國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/412.wav",
        "text": "我們真的要給他掌聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/413.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/414.wav",
        "text": "我覺得將來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/415.wav",
        "text": "像在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/416.wav",
        "text": "立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/417.wav",
        "text": "我們朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/418.wav",
        "text": "都共同對2758決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/419.wav",
        "text": "有很多的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/420.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/421.wav",
        "text": "經過賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/422.wav",
        "text": "醍醐灌頂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/423.wav",
        "text": "大指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/424.wav",
        "text": "我們的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/425.wav",
        "text": "就統一了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/426.wav",
        "text": "啊民進黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/427.wav",
        "text": "提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/428.wav",
        "text": "跟國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/429.wav",
        "text": "可以完全一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/430.wav",
        "text": "這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/431.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/432.wav",
        "text": "就交給民進黨來提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/433.wav",
        "text": "我們也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/434.wav",
        "text": "你們就把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/435.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/436.wav",
        "text": "直接簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/437.wav",
        "text": "這就是賴清德總統的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/438.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/439.wav",
        "text": "以中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/440.wav",
        "text": "為主體性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/441.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/442.wav",
        "text": "重返聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/443.wav",
        "text": "打破2758的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/444.wav",
        "text": "一切所有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/445.wav",
        "text": "就完全完美地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/446.wav",
        "text": "解決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/447.wav",
        "text": "另外賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/448.wav",
        "text": "既然這麼愛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/449.wav",
        "text": "中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/450.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/451.wav",
        "text": "也給賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/452.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/453.wav",
        "text": "國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/454.wav",
        "text": "關於2758決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/455.wav",
        "text": "的提案當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/456.wav",
        "text": "也很清楚地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/457.wav",
        "text": "也很誠懇地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/458.wav",
        "text": "來給賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/459.wav",
        "text": "兩個期勉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/460.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/461.wav",
        "text": "賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/462.wav",
        "text": "既然這麼希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/463.wav",
        "text": "為中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/464.wav",
        "text": "來爭取國際空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/465.wav",
        "text": "那麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/466.wav",
        "text": "就不要害怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/467.wav",
        "text": "2758決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/468.wav",
        "text": "學學馬英九總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/469.wav",
        "text": "突破2758決議的框架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/470.wav",
        "text": "重返世界衛生大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/471.wav",
        "text": "跟重返國際民航組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/472.wav",
        "text": "也有勇氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/473.wav",
        "text": "有格局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/474.wav",
        "text": "會做出保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/475.wav",
        "text": "在他這個任期之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/476.wav",
        "text": "就能夠讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/477.wav",
        "text": "中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/478.wav",
        "text": "重返"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/479.wav",
        "text": "跟國際民航組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/480.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個就是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/481.wav",
        "text": "他做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/482.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/483.wav",
        "text": "我建議可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/484.wav",
        "text": "更突破馬總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/485.wav",
        "text": "就直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/486.wav",
        "text": "按照民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/487.wav",
        "text": "現在這麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/488.wav",
        "text": "跟外交成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/489.wav",
        "text": "趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/490.wav",
        "text": "聯合聯合國所有成員國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/491.wav",
        "text": "共同提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/492.wav",
        "text": "打破2758決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/493.wav",
        "text": "讓中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/494.wav",
        "text": "能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/495.wav",
        "text": "重回國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/496.wav",
        "text": "這樣子更是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/497.wav",
        "text": "治本的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/498.wav",
        "text": "而且這個作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/499.wav",
        "text": "就超越馬英九了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/500.wav",
        "text": "所以請賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/501.wav",
        "text": "也承諾保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/502.wav",
        "text": "我賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/503.wav",
        "text": "非常的英明神武"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/504.wav",
        "text": "我一定可以在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/505.wav",
        "text": "我卸任之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/506.wav",
        "text": "打破2758決議框架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/507.wav",
        "text": "所以我真的樂觀期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/508.wav",
        "text": "為祖國的賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/509.wav",
        "text": "中華民國的外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/510.wav",
        "text": "開創新頁跟空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/511.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/512.wav",
        "text": "您的重點還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/513.wav",
        "text": "其實大家還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/514.wav",
        "text": "有共同點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/515.wav",
        "text": "就是讓我們國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/516.wav",
        "text": "能夠重回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/517.wav",
        "text": "您強調的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/518.wav",
        "text": "用中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/519.wav",
        "text": "這樣的名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/520.wav",
        "text": "名義重返聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/521.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我們交錯來發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/522.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員舉手了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/523.wav",
        "text": "好吳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/524.wav",
        "text": "謝謝民眾黨陳昭姿委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/525.wav",
        "text": "今天召開這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/526.wav",
        "text": "我們要在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/527.wav",
        "text": "提出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/528.wav",
        "text": "聯合朝野共同聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/529.wav",
        "text": "我想各黨一一提案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/530.wav",
        "text": "這就是一個好的開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/531.wav",
        "text": "這也是回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/532.wav",
        "text": "我上一次坐在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/533.wav",
        "text": "提案希望立法院朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/534.wav",
        "text": "來促成聯合聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/535.wav",
        "text": "那一次非常遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/536.wav",
        "text": "當我提到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/537.wav",
        "text": "被消音了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/538.wav",
        "text": "朝野的委員離場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/539.wav",
        "text": "包括韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/540.wav",
        "text": "我覺得那非常遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/541.wav",
        "text": "但是今天我們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/542.wav",
        "text": "有一個新的開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/543.wav",
        "text": "我們就一起來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/544.wav",
        "text": "\n面對2758號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/545.wav",
        "text": "要能夠撥亂反正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/546.wav",
        "text": "我想IPAC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/547.wav",
        "text": "他們有了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/548.wav",
        "text": "剛剛范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/549.wav",
        "text": "為大家簡報的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/550.wav",
        "text": "modelresolution"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/551.wav",
        "text": "就是一個公版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/552.wav",
        "text": "就是讓IPAC成員國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/553.wav",
        "text": "回到該國的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/554.wav",
        "text": "也在國會裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/555.wav",
        "text": "促成跨黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/556.wav",
        "text": "國會議員的聯合主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/557.wav",
        "text": "所以第一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/558.wav",
        "text": "它是有一個model"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/559.wav",
        "text": "一個公版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/560.wav",
        "text": "一個參照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/561.wav",
        "text": "也就是對於2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/562.wav",
        "text": "要重新正確的解讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/563.wav",
        "text": "當然也包括"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/564.wav",
        "text": "清楚的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/565.wav",
        "text": "在這個聲明當中提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/566.wav",
        "text": "過去中國扭曲的幾點錯誤"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/567.wav",
        "text": "這些謬誤之處都點出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/568.wav",
        "text": "所以當臺灣要回應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/569.wav",
        "text": "臺灣作為當事者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/570.wav",
        "text": "就一定要有行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/571.wav",
        "text": "那我們對於這個國際的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/572.wav",
        "text": "挺臺抗中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/573.wav",
        "text": "我們不能夠已讀不回"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/574.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也不能已讀亂回"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/575.wav",
        "text": "所以今天朝野的責任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/576.wav",
        "text": "在這裡我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/577.wav",
        "text": "綜整出大家認同的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/578.wav",
        "text": "而且符合臺灣主流民意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/579.wav",
        "text": "符合國際社會的期待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/580.wav",
        "text": "也符合正確的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/581.wav",
        "text": "歷史的認知等這些要項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/582.wav",
        "text": "我們要已讀慎回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/583.wav",
        "text": "所以已讀慎回這件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/584.wav",
        "text": "是臺灣中華民國立法院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/585.wav",
        "text": "的朝野委員共同的責任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/586.wav",
        "text": "\n那我們也看到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/587.wav",
        "text": "不管是IPAC的共同主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/588.wav",
        "text": "或者包括葛來儀"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/589.wav",
        "text": "──長期了解臺灣關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/590.wav",
        "text": "兩岸關係的國際學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/591.wav",
        "text": "也都不斷地提醒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/592.wav",
        "text": "臺灣千萬不能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/593.wav",
        "text": "已讀亂回的重要性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/594.wav",
        "text": "因為這會給國際社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/595.wav",
        "text": "錯誤的訊號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/596.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/597.wav",
        "text": "有一個好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/598.wav",
        "text": "完整的國會聯合聲明呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/599.wav",
        "text": "我想它應當有三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/600.wav",
        "text": "就是配合著剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/601.wav",
        "text": "IPAC的modelresolution"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/602.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/603.wav",
        "text": "一個國際脈絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/604.wav",
        "text": "歷史史實的背景說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/605.wav",
        "text": "第二部分是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/606.wav",
        "text": "聯合國2758號不涉臺"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/607.wav",
        "text": "的正確解讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/608.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/609.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/610.wav",
        "text": "第三個就是我們的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/611.wav",
        "text": "而臺灣國會的聲明跟主張"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/612.wav",
        "text": "勢必是對國際發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/613.wav",
        "text": "而對國際發聲的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/614.wav",
        "text": "包括對中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/615.wav",
        "text": "不要再用一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/616.wav",
        "text": "來錯誤捆綁2758號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/617.wav",
        "text": "不涉臺的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/618.wav",
        "text": "所以對中國的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/619.wav",
        "text": "是我們聯合聲明的一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/620.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/621.wav",
        "text": "國際的聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/622.wav",
        "text": "我們呼籲聯合國的成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/623.wav",
        "text": "也呼籲聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/624.wav",
        "text": "一起來讓2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/625.wav",
        "text": "撥亂反正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/626.wav",
        "text": "所以對於國際的訊號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/627.wav",
        "text": "對國際的發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/628.wav",
        "text": "會是我們國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/629.wav",
        "text": "聯合聲明的重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/630.wav",
        "text": "\n當然民眾黨的版本裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/631.wav",
        "text": "有提到對內對臺灣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/632.wav",
        "text": "自己的自我要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/633.wav",
        "text": "那我覺得當然我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/634.wav",
        "text": "立法監督行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/635.wav",
        "text": "也不是不能夠提出這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/636.wav",
        "text": "所以在聯合聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/637.wav",
        "text": "我說的第三部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/638.wav",
        "text": "它必須是對中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/639.wav",
        "text": "對國際對聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/640.wav",
        "text": "以及當然也可以對臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/641.wav",
        "text": "自己國家政府的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/642.wav",
        "text": "所以有三大部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/643.wav",
        "text": "就應當好好來看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/644.wav",
        "text": "我們現在三黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/645.wav",
        "text": "\n那三黨版本當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/646.wav",
        "text": "當然我們也很開心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/647.wav",
        "text": "看到國民黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/648.wav",
        "text": "有列席一起來參與討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/649.wav",
        "text": "但是羅智強委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/650.wav",
        "text": "應當好好對你們的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/651.wav",
        "text": "來詳加說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/652.wav",
        "text": "因為就我們所理解的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/653.wav",
        "text": "包括國民黨版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/654.wav",
        "text": "丟出來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/655.wav",
        "text": "成案之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/656.wav",
        "text": "有很多社會質疑的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/657.wav",
        "text": "也就是國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/658.wav",
        "text": "如剛剛羅智強委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/659.wav",
        "text": "他非常的緬懷馬英九前總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/660.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/661.wav",
        "text": "他是您的前老闆沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/662.wav",
        "text": "好然後國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/663.wav",
        "text": "居然又要回到半世紀前的1972年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/664.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/665.wav",
        "text": "是要整個否定2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/666.wav",
        "text": "坐上時空機的這種全盤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/667.wav",
        "text": "否定2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/668.wav",
        "text": "不只跟IPAC的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/669.wav",
        "text": "共同理解跟作法是不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/670.wav",
        "text": "也會造成我們剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/671.wav",
        "text": "你對國際社會釋放了什麼樣子的訊號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/672.wav",
        "text": "我們不能已讀亂回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/673.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/674.wav",
        "text": "既然是立法院的聯合聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/675.wav",
        "text": "今天民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/676.wav",
        "text": "我們非常用心誠懇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/677.wav",
        "text": "我們來了5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/678.wav",
        "text": "而且有幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/679.wav",
        "text": "然後有長期關注國防及外交的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/680.wav",
        "text": "Puma"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/681.wav",
        "text": "然後還有我們IPAC的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/682.wav",
        "text": "Co-Chair范雲委員也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/683.wav",
        "text": "就代表我們對於這件事情的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/684.wav",
        "text": "但是我想我們今天可以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/685.wav",
        "text": "表述各個版本的差異性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/686.wav",
        "text": "綜整出國會的聯合聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/687.wav",
        "text": "讓各黨接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/688.wav",
        "text": "勢必還是要讓韓國瑜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/689.wav",
        "text": "院長主持朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/690.wav",
        "text": "所以今天就內容上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/691.wav",
        "text": "是對內訴求比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/692.wav",
        "text": "如果可以的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/693.wav",
        "text": "應當是我剛剛講的對中國的訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/694.wav",
        "text": "跟對聯合國的呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/695.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是民進黨版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/696.wav",
        "text": "一個很重要的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/697.wav",
        "text": "但是大方向上對於歷史的事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/698.wav",
        "text": "對於2758號決議文不涉臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/699.wav",
        "text": "的這些解釋跟導正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/700.wav",
        "text": "正我想民進黨版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/701.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨版本是比較接近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/702.wav",
        "text": "那對國民黨的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/703.wav",
        "text": "要回到1972年以前的歷史時空"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/704.wav",
        "text": "我想這個是讓大家覺得牛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/705.wav",
        "text": "牛頭不對馬嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/706.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/707.wav",
        "text": "確實會釋放了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/708.wav",
        "text": "一個錯誤的訊號給國際社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/709.wav",
        "text": "還是國民黨的委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/710.wav",
        "text": "剛剛羅智強委員講了好多好多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/711.wav",
        "text": "賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/712.wav",
        "text": "我們今天是在國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/713.wav",
        "text": "回到主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/714.wav",
        "text": "我們在講的是2758號不涉臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/715.wav",
        "text": "的朝野共同聯合聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/716.wav",
        "text": "那一直講賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/717.wav",
        "text": "就好奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/718.wav",
        "text": "你講馬英九就算了沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/719.wav",
        "text": "你喜歡講馬英九"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/720.wav",
        "text": "然後講了賴清德總統如何如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/721.wav",
        "text": "如果您這麼肯定賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/722.wav",
        "text": "在國慶晚會的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/723.wav",
        "text": "那就應當起義來歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/724.wav",
        "text": "好好站在臺灣的主體性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/725.wav",
        "text": "為2758號不涉臺的決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/726.wav",
        "text": "做出臺灣正確的歷史作為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/727.wav",
        "text": "那在邀請國民黨再次發言之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/728.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛洪委員舉手了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/729.wav",
        "text": "不然就是請你先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/730.wav",
        "text": "再做第二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/731.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/732.wav",
        "text": "其實第一個事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/733.wav",
        "text": "還是先謝謝今天陳昭姿委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/734.wav",
        "text": "召集這場協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/735.wav",
        "text": "我們也有感覺到陳昭姿委員的誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/736.wav",
        "text": "所以這也是今天民進黨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/737.wav",
        "text": "的委員出席的原因"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/738.wav",
        "text": "但我只是覺得第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/739.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在談這個2758議題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/740.wav",
        "text": "我自己是認為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/741.wav",
        "text": "臺灣不同的政黨之間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/742.wav",
        "text": "我們本來就存在著很多互相競爭的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/743.wav",
        "text": "可是在這個議題上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/744.wav",
        "text": "我自己認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/745.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是在今天討論中非常重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/746.wav",
        "text": "可是在這個尋求共識的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/747.wav",
        "text": "我自己也認為不能和稀泥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/748.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這件事情要先講在前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/749.wav",
        "text": "\n第二件事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/750.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在這個地方討論這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/751.wav",
        "text": "有幾個很重要的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/752.wav",
        "text": "我想不管是陳昭姿委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/753.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員其實剛剛也做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/754.wav",
        "text": "有關IPAC的闡述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/755.wav",
        "text": "很重要的一點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/756.wav",
        "text": "就這個當下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/757.wav",
        "text": "國際社會跟很多民主國家的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/758.wav",
        "text": "正在如雨後春筍般"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/759.wav",
        "text": "一一地表達他們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/760.wav",
        "text": "來挺臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/761.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們在這個地方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/762.wav",
        "text": "有個很重要的部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/763.wav",
        "text": "我們是在回應國際的民主國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/764.wav",
        "text": "尤其是他們國會的挺臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/765.wav",
        "text": "我們自己就是當事人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/766.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要做出回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/767.wav",
        "text": "以及正面而清晰的訊息表述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/768.wav",
        "text": "這是我們今天為什麼要在這個地方討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/769.wav",
        "text": "它不是憑空掉下來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/770.wav",
        "text": "不是哪一個政黨要去做政治操作的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/771.wav",
        "text": "我要先講這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/772.wav",
        "text": "包括剛才大家有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/773.wav",
        "text": "到澳洲荷蘭的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/774.wav",
        "text": "都作出這樣的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/775.wav",
        "text": "我要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/776.wav",
        "text": "澳洲跟荷蘭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/777.wav",
        "text": "都是由國會來作出這樣的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/778.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們作為一個國會議員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/779.wav",
        "text": "當我們要呼應國際的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/780.wav",
        "text": "其實我們本來就是在討論一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/781.wav",
        "text": "以國會為主體的看法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/782.wav",
        "text": "我們本來就是在處理一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/783.wav",
        "text": "以國會為主體的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/784.wav",
        "text": "所以我其實不是很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/785.wav",
        "text": "為什麼剛剛羅智強委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/786.wav",
        "text": "都是馬英九"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/787.wav",
        "text": "都是賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/788.wav",
        "text": "馬英九前總統跟賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/789.wav",
        "text": "他們是現在的國會議員嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/790.wav",
        "text": "他們是現在臺灣國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/791.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國會裡面的黨團代表嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/792.wav",
        "text": "他們並不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/793.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在呼應國際跟接軌國際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/794.wav",
        "text": "就是以國會為主體的看法聲明跟發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/795.wav",
        "text": "這是我們今天在討論裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/796.wav",
        "text": "非常非常重要的脈絡跟原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/797.wav",
        "text": "\n所以回到剛才所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/798.wav",
        "text": "我覺得有幾點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/799.wav",
        "text": "必須先再闡明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/800.wav",
        "text": "第一個到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/801.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/802.wav",
        "text": "持續地在用第2758號決議來扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/803.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是中國的一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/804.wav",
        "text": "進而阻擋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/805.wav",
        "text": "臺灣社會的國際參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/806.wav",
        "text": "包括國際組織參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/807.wav",
        "text": "這是當下的現在進行式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/808.wav",
        "text": "我們必須看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/809.wav",
        "text": "這個當下的現在進行式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/810.wav",
        "text": "正在發生傷害正在發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/811.wav",
        "text": "如果我們認清這件事情的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/812.wav",
        "text": "那我們來討論這個決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/813.wav",
        "text": "我覺得裡面有幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/814.wav",
        "text": "部分是很重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/815.wav",
        "text": "第一個要先指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/816.wav",
        "text": "到底中國目前的中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/817.wav",
        "text": "是如何扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/818.wav",
        "text": "它怎麼樣誤讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/819.wav",
        "text": "明明就不涉及臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/820.wav",
        "text": "但它拿著這一份1971年的文本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/821.wav",
        "text": "刻意地錯誤解讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/822.wav",
        "text": "產生錯誤的訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/823.wav",
        "text": "這一份決議文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/824.wav",
        "text": "應該要先指出它如何扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/825.wav",
        "text": "它為什麼這是扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/826.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這部分要先表明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/827.wav",
        "text": "這是第一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/828.wav",
        "text": "第二件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/829.wav",
        "text": "當它正在扭曲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/830.wav",
        "text": "跟傷害臺灣的國際參與時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/831.wav",
        "text": "難道我們不用面對它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/832.wav",
        "text": "告訴它你這樣做是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/833.wav",
        "text": "你現在應該要停止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/834.wav",
        "text": "甚至應該要譴責它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/835.wav",
        "text": "這樣的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/836.wav",
        "text": "它正在傷害啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/837.wav",
        "text": "有人在傷害我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/838.wav",
        "text": "要求我們行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/839.wav",
        "text": "趕快把防彈衣穿起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/840.wav",
        "text": "不是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/841.wav",
        "text": "應該要先要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/842.wav",
        "text": "正在傷害我們的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/843.wav",
        "text": "跟錯誤的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/844.wav",
        "text": "這也應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/845.wav",
        "text": "我們在這個決議文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/846.wav",
        "text": "要有的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/847.wav",
        "text": "所以如果從這個角度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/848.wav",
        "text": "我要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/849.wav",
        "text": "我想大家都清楚知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/850.wav",
        "text": "中國就是扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/851.wav",
        "text": "所以扭曲的方式應該放入裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/852.wav",
        "text": "可是第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/853.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要面向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/854.wav",
        "text": "面向傷害臺灣的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/855.wav",
        "text": "先要求它停止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/856.wav",
        "text": "甚至要譴責它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/857.wav",
        "text": "幹這些傷害臺灣的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/858.wav",
        "text": "也就是中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/859.wav",
        "text": "這就是需要放入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/860.wav",
        "text": "我們決議文裡面的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/861.wav",
        "text": "\n我今天在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/862.wav",
        "text": "過去的紛紛擾擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/863.wav",
        "text": "我們今天都不談那些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/864.wav",
        "text": "在兩三個禮拜前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/865.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛從荷蘭跟比利時回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/866.wav",
        "text": "在那邊很多的國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/867.wav",
        "text": "也對於我們清楚表達出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/868.wav",
        "text": "對第2758號決議文的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/869.wav",
        "text": "他們也表達這樣的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/870.wav",
        "text": "大家也都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/871.wav",
        "text": "所以如果以呼應國際的角度來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/872.wav",
        "text": "我自己覺得看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/873.wav",
        "text": "目前國民黨版本的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/874.wav",
        "text": "坦白說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/875.wav",
        "text": "跟目前IPAC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/876.wav",
        "text": "或是幾個發聲挺臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/877.wav",
        "text": "民主國家的國會意旨跟主旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/878.wav",
        "text": "是有落差的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/879.wav",
        "text": "是不太一樣的主軸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/880.wav",
        "text": "是不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/881.wav",
        "text": "的其實這是讀文意就讀得出來的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/882.wav",
        "text": "所以我們應該要呼應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/883.wav",
        "text": "對第2758號決議文看法的主軸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/884.wav",
        "text": "然後要譴責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/885.wav",
        "text": "要求中國停止它現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/886.wav",
        "text": "幹的壞事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/887.wav",
        "text": "傷害臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/888.wav",
        "text": "我們希望今天的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/889.wav",
        "text": "可以在這件事上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/890.wav",
        "text": "儘量尋求共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/891.wav",
        "text": "但在有共識之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/892.wav",
        "text": "大家可以各自表述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/893.wav",
        "text": "可是這個尋求共識的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/894.wav",
        "text": "不應該和稀泥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/895.wav",
        "text": "而且這是以國會為主體的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/896.wav",
        "text": "他有他的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/897.wav",
        "text": "可是我今天也不想討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/898.wav",
        "text": "馬英九總統怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/899.wav",
        "text": "今天賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/900.wav",
        "text": "以一個國會為主體的討論該怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/901.wav",
        "text": "就是由現在三個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/902.wav",
        "text": "的看法來決定的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/903.wav",
        "text": "就這麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/904.wav",
        "text": "我想這邊幾位委員也都提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/905.wav",
        "text": "三黨都有相關的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/906.wav",
        "text": "第一次在臺灣舉行了IPAC會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/907.wav",
        "text": "大概沒有這麼多國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/908.wav",
        "text": "大概將近30個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/909.wav",
        "text": "然後超過200位的國會議員到臺灣來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/910.wav",
        "text": "這是蠻盛大的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/911.wav",
        "text": "給予我們溫暖的一個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/912.wav",
        "text": "也都獲得通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/913.wav",
        "text": "通過之後有一些會員國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/914.wav",
        "text": "他們回到自己的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/915.wav",
        "text": "也繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/916.wav",
        "text": "因為IPAC本身就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/917.wav",
        "text": "跨國國會議員的一個聯盟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/918.wav",
        "text": "Inter-ParliamentaryAssociation"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/919.wav",
        "text": "就是跨國國會議員的聯盟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/920.wav",
        "text": "也繼續具體地做了一些努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/921.wav",
        "text": "這些努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/922.wav",
        "text": ",350萬人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/923.wav",
        "text": "參與國際的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/924.wav",
        "text": "個人認為這是一個非常珍貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/925.wav",
        "text": "難得的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/926.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才有這些三黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/927.wav",
        "text": "但我今天努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/928.wav",
        "text": "我知道大家認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/929.wav",
        "text": "也許最後還是要經過韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/930.wav",
        "text": "來做一個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/931.wav",
        "text": "不過我們還是努力在這個層次的會議上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/932.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠找到我們的公約數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/933.wav",
        "text": "羅委員再度發言之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/934.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/935.wav",
        "text": "\n請羅委員謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/936.wav",
        "text": "剛剛聽到民進黨委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/937.wav",
        "text": "我嚇了一跳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/938.wav",
        "text": "我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/939.wav",
        "text": "這麼尊貴的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/940.wav",
        "text": "在國會竟然變成髒字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/941.wav",
        "text": "是髒東西不能提啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/942.wav",
        "text": "哇我好驚訝我嚇死了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/943.wav",
        "text": "馬總統你說不能提就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/944.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/945.wav",
        "text": "你們發言我一句話都沒講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/946.wav",
        "text": "就在這個會議室承諾過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/947.wav",
        "text": "發言的時候不要插嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/948.wav",
        "text": "所以如果今天有什麼話要講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/949.wav",
        "text": "請主席裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/950.wav",
        "text": "請尊重完整的發言權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/951.wav",
        "text": "\n我還是要回頭講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/952.wav",
        "text": "怎麼啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/953.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商是文字獄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/954.wav",
        "text": "啊不能講馬英九"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/955.wav",
        "text": "也不能講賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/956.wav",
        "text": "賴清德是現在總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/957.wav",
        "text": "耶代表我們中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/958.wav",
        "text": "當然賴清德總統的意思很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/959.wav",
        "text": "啊我言必稱賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/960.wav",
        "text": "有什麼不對呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/961.wav",
        "text": "我這麼愛賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/962.wav",
        "text": "對不對我這麼愛賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/963.wav",
        "text": "我言必稱他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/964.wav",
        "text": "結果你們把他當髒字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/965.wav",
        "text": "這樣子對賴清德總統不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/966.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得真的對他不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/967.wav",
        "text": "\n另外剛剛吳思瑤委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/968.wav",
        "text": "不要已讀亂回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/969.wav",
        "text": "你這句話真好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/970.wav",
        "text": "你不要已讀亂回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/971.wav",
        "text": "我們賴清德總統的話好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/972.wav",
        "text": "我當然愛賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/973.wav",
        "text": "啊他是中華民國的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/974.wav",
        "text": "啊我怎麼不愛他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/975.wav",
        "text": "他從兩天前突然變成中華民國總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/976.wav",
        "text": "我從兩天前開始愛他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/977.wav",
        "text": "我愛死他了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/978.wav",
        "text": "他把臺獨整個背叛掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/979.wav",
        "text": "這完全符合我的理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/980.wav",
        "text": "雖然我很尊敬臺獨的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/981.wav",
        "text": "啦但我個人是中華民國派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/982.wav",
        "text": "所以賴清德直接在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/983.wav",
        "text": "我們的國慶晚會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/984.wav",
        "text": "當場搬出了一中憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/985.wav",
        "text": "就是你剛剛講的不要講一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/986.wav",
        "text": "他搬一中憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/987.wav",
        "text": "從今天開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/988.wav",
        "text": "中華民國才是我們的祖國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/989.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國不是我們的祖國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/990.wav",
        "text": "我們要否棄這個中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/991.wav",
        "text": "具體的行動方針就出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/992.wav",
        "text": "也許今天吳思瑤委員速度慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/993.wav",
        "text": "沒跟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/994.wav",
        "text": "約兩天前才改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/995.wav",
        "text": "沒有跟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/996.wav",
        "text": "對不能插嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/997.wav",
        "text": "但是可以走動沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/998.wav",
        "text": "吳委員盡量走動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/999.wav",
        "text": "所以吳委員的動作慢半拍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1000.wav",
        "text": "沒有跟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1001.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統已經標示一中憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1002.wav",
        "text": "了已經告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1003.wav",
        "text": "最好秉持賴清德總統的這個精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1004.wav",
        "text": "中華民國是主權獨立的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1005.wav",
        "text": "也是聯合國創始會員國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1006.wav",
        "text": "聯合國大會第2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1007.wav",
        "text": "不公正排除中華民國的代表權及國際參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1008.wav",
        "text": "長期以來造成國際上我國人民權益缺乏保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1009.wav",
        "text": "國際參與邊緣化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1010.wav",
        "text": "以及自尊受損的孤兒困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1011.wav",
        "text": "中華民國政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1012.wav",
        "text": "自始表達反對第2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1013.wav",
        "text": "我告訴賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1014.wav",
        "text": "這個聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1015.wav",
        "text": "送給賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1016.wav",
        "text": "謹陳賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1017.wav",
        "text": "請賴總統轉交民進黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1018.wav",
        "text": "兩天前開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1019.wav",
        "text": "我們就統一啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1020.wav",
        "text": "不要再講臺灣共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1021.wav",
        "text": "臺灣共和國要也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1022.wav",
        "text": "臺灣共和國民進黨賴總統再改變一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1023.wav",
        "text": "也許兩天後再改變一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1024.wav",
        "text": "直接宣布臺灣共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1025.wav",
        "text": "臺灣獨立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1026.wav",
        "text": "那麼民進黨接下來再推行用臺灣共和國名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1027.wav",
        "text": "加入聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1028.wav",
        "text": "也是名正言順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1029.wav",
        "text": "就歡迎賴總統直接宣布臺獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1030.wav",
        "text": "然後用臺灣共和國名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1031.wav",
        "text": "加入聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1032.wav",
        "text": "名正言順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1033.wav",
        "text": "如果賴總統兩天前的祖國論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1034.wav",
        "text": "是真心誠意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1035.wav",
        "text": "那很好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1036.wav",
        "text": "我們中國國民黨已經寫好了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1037.wav",
        "text": "我們反對第2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1038.wav",
        "text": "我們就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1039.wav",
        "text": "要用中華民國的身分來告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1040.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國不是我們的祖國啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1041.wav",
        "text": "我們要用中華民國身分堂堂正正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1042.wav",
        "text": "重返國際社會啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1043.wav",
        "text": "所以我要跟吳思瑤委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1044.wav",
        "text": "洪申翰委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1045.wav",
        "text": "我要跟大家講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1046.wav",
        "text": "已讀不回的是誰啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1047.wav",
        "text": "已讀亂回的是誰啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1048.wav",
        "text": "已讀亂回就是已經慢半拍的吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1049.wav",
        "text": "跟民進黨立法院黨團嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1050.wav",
        "text": "情勢已經變更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1051.wav",
        "text": "總統已經轉向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1052.wav",
        "text": "總統已經擁抱中華民國了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1053.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1054.wav",
        "text": "跟上腳步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1055.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統不是髒字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1056.wav",
        "text": "竟然是一種罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1057.wav",
        "text": "我承擔不起啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1058.wav",
        "text": "拜託拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1059.wav",
        "text": "請賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1060.wav",
        "text": "就直接宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1061.wav",
        "text": "我們就以中華民國的尊嚴跟身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1062.wav",
        "text": "反對第2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1063.wav",
        "text": "重返聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1064.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1065.wav",
        "text": "聽得很痛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1066.wav",
        "text": "只說賴清德不敢說中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1067.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們今天在討論的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1068.wav",
        "text": "國會對於全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1069.wav",
        "text": "民主國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1070.wav",
        "text": "包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1071.wav",
        "text": "澳洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1072.wav",
        "text": "在強調第2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1073.wav",
        "text": "不涉臺這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1074.wav",
        "text": "全世界的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1075.wav",
        "text": "發出了正義之聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1076.wav",
        "text": "那我們臺灣的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1077.wav",
        "text": "應該要來響應這樣的聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1078.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望用國會的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1079.wav",
        "text": "大家做出一個完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1080.wav",
        "text": "響應國際上支持臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1081.wav",
        "text": "\n今天主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1082.wav",
        "text": "召開這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1083.wav",
        "text": "重點就在這裡啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1084.wav",
        "text": "結果國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1085.wav",
        "text": "呢你們的決議就是來亂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1086.wav",
        "text": "也是來亂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1087.wav",
        "text": "跟賴清德主席在國慶晚會的演說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1088.wav",
        "text": "有什麼關係嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1089.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1090.wav",
        "text": "第2758號決議文是在1971年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1091.wav",
        "text": "它的內容是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1092.wav",
        "text": "我再念一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1093.wav",
        "text": "給國民黨的代表聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1094.wav",
        "text": "它的決定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1095.wav",
        "text": "恢復中華人民共和國一切權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1096.wav",
        "text": "承認她的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1097.wav",
        "text": "的代表為中國在聯合國組織的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1098.wav",
        "text": "唯一合法代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1099.wav",
        "text": "並立即把蔣介石的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1100.wav",
        "text": "從它在聯合國組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1101.wav",
        "text": "一切機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1102.wav",
        "text": "中所非法占據的席位上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1103.wav",
        "text": "驅逐出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1104.wav",
        "text": "這個就是第2758號決議文的本文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1105.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1106.wav",
        "text": "這是我們文字上的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1107.wav",
        "text": "中國扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1108.wav",
        "text": "中國說這個就是一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1109.wav",
        "text": "這個就是中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1110.wav",
        "text": "否認臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1111.wav",
        "text": "否認中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1112.wav",
        "text": "在國際上的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1113.wav",
        "text": "被中國這樣扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1114.wav",
        "text": "可是它的本文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1115.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有講到中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1116.wav",
        "text": "也沒有講到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1117.wav",
        "text": "所以現在全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1118.wav",
        "text": "開始去正視這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1119.wav",
        "text": "過去可能大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1120.wav",
        "text": "都有中國的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1121.wav",
        "text": "中國這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1122.wav",
        "text": "大家就配合他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1123.wav",
        "text": "那可能過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1124.wav",
        "text": "現在大家都漸漸發發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1125.wav",
        "text": "一切事實是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1126.wav",
        "text": "那我們就把事實恢復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1127.wav",
        "text": "國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1128.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1129.wav",
        "text": "不用有聲音嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1130.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1131.wav",
        "text": "不用在這樣的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1132.wav",
        "text": "我們呼應全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1133.wav",
        "text": "的一個共同聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1134.wav",
        "text": "\n所以國民黨你們反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1135.wav",
        "text": "第2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1136.wav",
        "text": "你們卻不敢講到中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1137.wav",
        "text": "那講到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1138.wav",
        "text": "你們為什麼不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1139.wav",
        "text": "1949年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1140.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1141.wav",
        "text": "從中華民國分裂出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1142.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你們不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1143.wav",
        "text": "你們跳出來罵他啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1144.wav",
        "text": "你跳出來罵中國啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1145.wav",
        "text": "你為什麼要從中華民國分裂出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1146.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1147.wav",
        "text": "啊75歲以上的那些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1148.wav",
        "text": "要說中華民國是祖國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1149.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1150.wav",
        "text": "就是中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1151.wav",
        "text": "從中華民國分裂出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1152.wav",
        "text": "啊這個你們國民黨最懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1153.wav",
        "text": "因為當時沒有民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1154.wav",
        "text": "當時也沒有民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1155.wav",
        "text": "那都是你們搞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1156.wav",
        "text": "你們搞的卻來這裡漏氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1157.wav",
        "text": "當全世界要挺我們的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1158.wav",
        "text": "\n我看今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1159.wav",
        "text": "是不是由韓院長來主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1160.wav",
        "text": "我還是誠心的呼應主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1161.wav",
        "text": "我們要有一個共同的決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1162.wav",
        "text": "來響應全世界支持臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1163.wav",
        "text": "我們不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1164.wav",
        "text": "把國內政治上的分歧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1165.wav",
        "text": "變成臺灣走不出去的一個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1166.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1167.wav",
        "text": "我們都盡力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1168.wav",
        "text": "在保護我們的家園跟臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1169.wav",
        "text": "因為今天是民眾黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1170.wav",
        "text": "我想還是讓大家暢所欲言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1171.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1172.wav",
        "text": "不是來面對問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1173.wav",
        "text": "討論問題解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1174.wav",
        "text": "就是唯恐天下不亂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1175.wav",
        "text": "就是來亂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1176.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的國會亂就算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1177.wav",
        "text": "我們不能夠放任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1178.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1179.wav",
        "text": "到世界上去做一個亂來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1180.wav",
        "text": "的聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1181.wav",
        "text": "跟范雲委員都是IPAC的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1182.wav",
        "text": "Co-Chair最了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1183.wav",
        "text": "IPAC在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1184.wav",
        "text": "第2758號決議不涉臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1185.wav",
        "text": "的很多主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1186.wav",
        "text": "聯合行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1187.wav",
        "text": "比較接近後續我們也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1188.wav",
        "text": "放棄持續地溝通對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1189.wav",
        "text": "整合出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1190.wav",
        "text": "符合臺灣主流民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1191.wav",
        "text": "也符合國際社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1192.wav",
        "text": "挺臺抗中的共同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1193.wav",
        "text": "集體行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1194.wav",
        "text": "我們不會放棄努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1195.wav",
        "text": "後續既然是立法院的聯合聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1196.wav",
        "text": "我們就靜待韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1197.wav",
        "text": "所主持的各黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1198.wav",
        "text": "\n如果國民黨的代表不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1199.wav",
        "text": "真心誠意地來處理這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1200.wav",
        "text": "搞砸問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1201.wav",
        "text": "剛剛國民黨的另外一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1202.wav",
        "text": "代表可能聽不下羅智強的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1203.wav",
        "text": "我們今天來的有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1204.wav",
        "text": "IPAC的Co-Chair"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1205.wav",
        "text": "有我們黨團的黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1206.wav",
        "text": "我們都代表黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1207.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望後續在協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1208.wav",
        "text": "黨鞭們要負責任地好好來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1209.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位的發言因為我們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1210.wav",
        "text": "其他兩黨也會有後續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1211.wav",
        "text": "的一些提案本來我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1212.wav",
        "text": "讓韓院長能夠進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1213.wav",
        "text": "那可不可能用民眾黨的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1214.wav",
        "text": "版本先去進行當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1215.wav",
        "text": "本來是IPAC的公版如果大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1216.wav",
        "text": "可以接受這也是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1217.wav",
        "text": "羅委員把話講完就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1218.wav",
        "text": "三個版本因為各黨都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1219.wav",
        "text": "也不要遺漏任何一個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1220.wav",
        "text": "那三個版本一起交院長的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1221.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1222.wav",
        "text": "羅委員還是讓他講完好啦沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1223.wav",
        "text": "啦民進黨先離開也沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1224.wav",
        "text": "啦我只是要講一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1225.wav",
        "text": "2758號決議是非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1226.wav",
        "text": "嚴肅的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1227.wav",
        "text": "民進黨不要好像你們提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1228.wav",
        "text": "來主張案子別人提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1229.wav",
        "text": "案子叫做來亂剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1230.wav",
        "text": "基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1231.wav",
        "text": "雖然又來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1232.wav",
        "text": "去跟鍾佳濱講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1233.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱當場答應我不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1234.wav",
        "text": "插話的好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1235.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱當場答應我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1236.wav",
        "text": "講不贏就走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1237.wav",
        "text": "我懂啦講不贏就走\n沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1238.wav",
        "text": "我還是跟主席講程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1239.wav",
        "text": "一樣要完備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1240.wav",
        "text": "今天對於中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1241.wav",
        "text": "來講我們的立場向來一貫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1242.wav",
        "text": "啊我們今天的主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1243.wav",
        "text": "獨立國家就是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1244.wav",
        "text": "很抱歉啊賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1245.wav",
        "text": "在兩天前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1246.wav",
        "text": "也肯認了這個主張這個立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1247.wav",
        "text": "民進黨到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1248.wav",
        "text": "我問的問題也不敢回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1249.wav",
        "text": "不管是加入聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1250.wav",
        "text": "重返聯合國你的名義是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1251.wav",
        "text": "還是中華民國呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1252.wav",
        "text": "顯然目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1253.wav",
        "text": "這世界上沒有臺灣共和國這個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1254.wav",
        "text": "啊如果有臺灣共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1255.wav",
        "text": "這個國家我覺得也沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1256.wav",
        "text": "啊那賴清德總統就去主張臺灣獨立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1257.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n但在沒有臺灣共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1258.wav",
        "text": "這個國家的時候你要以什麼樣的主體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1259.wav",
        "text": "身分來重返聯合國呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1260.wav",
        "text": "最好的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1261.wav",
        "text": "當然就是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1262.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以中華民國從頭到尾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1263.wav",
        "text": "就是反對2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1264.wav",
        "text": "說聽我的話聽不下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1265.wav",
        "text": "他的話我很認真聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1266.wav",
        "text": "啦他剛剛講到一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1267.wav",
        "text": "2758號決議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1268.wav",
        "text": "既沒有提到中華民國四個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1269.wav",
        "text": "也沒有提到臺灣兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1270.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1271.wav",
        "text": "既然2758號決議不涉臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1272.wav",
        "text": "那也不涉中華民國不是嘛這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1273.wav",
        "text": "蔡易餘的主張啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1274.wav",
        "text": "不涉臺我當然說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1275.wav",
        "text": "民進黨要主張用臺灣共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1276.wav",
        "text": "因為不涉臺嘛用臺灣共和國進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1277.wav",
        "text": "賴清德有本事就宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1278.wav",
        "text": "臺灣獨立嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1279.wav",
        "text": "不要當龜孫子宣布臺灣獨立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1280.wav",
        "text": "就可以臺灣共和國名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1281.wav",
        "text": "加入聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1282.wav",
        "text": "但如果你沒這個膽量宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1283.wav",
        "text": "臺灣獨立的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1284.wav",
        "text": "那我就問民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1285.wav",
        "text": "我們現在國家國民的主體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1286.wav",
        "text": "不就兩天前賴清德講的中華民國啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1287.wav",
        "text": "你不用中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1288.wav",
        "text": "重返聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1289.wav",
        "text": "你用什麼名稱名義重返聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1290.wav",
        "text": "\n更重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1291.wav",
        "text": "不要作秀啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1292.wav",
        "text": "你今天提2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1293.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛就講兩個承諾都不敢答應嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1294.wav",
        "text": "你今天真的要讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1295.wav",
        "text": "我們中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1296.wav",
        "text": "或是民進黨心心念念的臺灣共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1297.wav",
        "text": "有一個國際參與空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1298.wav",
        "text": "你不是在這邊啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1299.wav",
        "text": "民進黨這麼厲害每天大外宣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1300.wav",
        "text": "你去把聯合國的所有成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1301.wav",
        "text": "國家叫他們在聯合國大會提案啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1302.wav",
        "text": "提那兩個提案嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1303.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1304.wav",
        "text": "打破2758號決議啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1305.wav",
        "text": "聯合國直接宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1306.wav",
        "text": "就以臺灣共和國的名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1307.wav",
        "text": "讓賴清德進到聯合國啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1308.wav",
        "text": "就只有這兩條路你講第3條路給我聽嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1309.wav",
        "text": "沒有這一條路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1310.wav",
        "text": "結果嚇得全部走光光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1311.wav",
        "text": "我覺得吳思瑤最好笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1312.wav",
        "text": "我講賴清德他竟然是那麼痛恨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1313.wav",
        "text": "賴清德什麼時候變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1314.wav",
        "text": "髒字髒東西啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1315.wav",
        "text": "賴清德是國家元首"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1316.wav",
        "text": "兩天前宣誓效忠中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1317.wav",
        "text": "終於誕生了兩天前的新中華民國總統耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1318.wav",
        "text": "我當然尊敬他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1319.wav",
        "text": "我言必稱他難道不對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1320.wav",
        "text": "提出建設性的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1321.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的提案最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1322.wav",
        "text": "作為共同聲明剛剛好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1323.wav",
        "text": "我覺得民眾黨的提案也不錯啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1324.wav",
        "text": "也不錯啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1325.wav",
        "text": "但民進黨的提案根本就是來亂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1326.wav",
        "text": "真正來亂的就是民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1327.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16155/1328.wav",
        "text": "散會謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/0.wav",
        "text": "專心上課精神就來了現在我跟各位幹部講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1.wav",
        "text": "最主要就是要討論協商第2會期開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/2.wav",
        "text": "以及邀請行政院院長進行施政報告並備質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/3.wav",
        "text": "請各黨團依序發表寶貴的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/4.wav",
        "text": "依照過去的慣例開議日期都是在中秋節過後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/5.wav",
        "text": "中秋節昨天已經過了所以今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/6.wav",
        "text": "我們是想說是不是9月20日星期五就來開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/7.wav",
        "text": "而且開議的同時是不是就請行政院院長來做施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/8.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘書記長的說明\n接下來我們請黃國昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/9.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長9月20號開議台灣民眾黨黨團沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/10.wav",
        "text": "我們的立場向來就是儘快開議今天18號最快就20號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/11.wav",
        "text": "所以我想這個對台灣民眾黨黨團來講沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/12.wav",
        "text": "各個委員會應該最快也是下禮拜三才會選召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/13.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我們希望20號開議當天23號禮拜一24號禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/14.wav",
        "text": "這三天舉行一次會星期五開議那一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/15.wav",
        "text": "因為可能還要處理一些各個黨團所提的報告事項跟討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/16.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上我們初步希望9月23號禮拜一的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/17.wav",
        "text": "邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/18.wav",
        "text": "針對賴清德政府能源政策配比及電價政策先進行專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/19.wav",
        "text": "因為這個事情攸關非常多臺灣人民現在的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/20.wav",
        "text": "而10月份的電價看起來又是蠢蠢欲動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/21.wav",
        "text": "社會上大家不僅有非常多的質疑也有非常多的關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/22.wav",
        "text": "但這件事情到目前為止整個卓榮泰內閣說不清楚也講不明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/23.wav",
        "text": "因此我們希望下禮拜一的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/24.wav",
        "text": "能夠邀請卓榮泰院長率同相關部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/25.wav",
        "text": "列席提出專案報告並備質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/26.wav",
        "text": "\n至於正式開始總質詢的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/27.wav",
        "text": "如果考量到禮拜五的時候可能還有一些報告事項跟討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/28.wav",
        "text": "要依序處理總質詢可能會延到下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/29.wav",
        "text": "是不是也可以考慮等到下個禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/30.wav",
        "text": "再正式的邀請行政院院長率各部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/31.wav",
        "text": "列席進行施政報告並備質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/32.wav",
        "text": "除了開議日期以外還有議事日程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/33.wav",
        "text": "可能要做一些討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/34.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團所提出來的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/35.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/36.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/37.wav",
        "text": "現在黃國昌總召的意思就是20日開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/38.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/39.wav",
        "text": "跟國民黨的想法是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/40.wav",
        "text": "第二2324另外一次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/41.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們聽其他黨團的意見好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/42.wav",
        "text": "簡言之就是20日開議這是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/43.wav",
        "text": "\n請吳思瑤幹事長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/44.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長大家辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/45.wav",
        "text": "大家對這個日期應當都可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/46.wav",
        "text": "20日循往例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/47.wav",
        "text": "所以希望如同剛剛思銘書記長說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/48.wav",
        "text": "的我們20日就很順利地來進行施政總報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/49.wav",
        "text": "對這個部分我們是期待這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/50.wav",
        "text": "是不是要做專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/51.wav",
        "text": "剛好今天要跟院長一併來討論的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/52.wav",
        "text": "我們希望說過去的慣例是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/53.wav",
        "text": "過去的慣例是開議日（20日）進行施政總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/54.wav",
        "text": "然後接著下一次會議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/55.wav",
        "text": "也就是下週五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/56.wav",
        "text": "應當就進行總預算的詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/57.wav",
        "text": "答這個會期因為有三個預算案要進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/58.wav",
        "text": "所以也請求我們是不是也能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/59.wav",
        "text": "在時程上有一個默契"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/60.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團希望20日開議進行施政總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/61.wav",
        "text": "然後在下一週在第二次的會議就進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/62.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛剛黃國昌總召提到的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/63.wav",
        "text": "就有一個是台電1,000億元的追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/64.wav",
        "text": "預算所以針對追加減的預算是不是就合併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/65.wav",
        "text": "如果對於能源政策或是電價調整的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/66.wav",
        "text": "有什麼樣的意見可以在同樣一個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/67.wav",
        "text": "跟追加減預算合併一起進行我想這樣更有效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/68.wav",
        "text": "然後對於相關部會其實同樣都是相關的經濟部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/69.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/70.wav",
        "text": "\n當然另外我也要提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/71.wav",
        "text": "上個會期在三黨共同努力之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/72.wav",
        "text": "是三黨共同提案針對電業法第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/73.wav",
        "text": "完成修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/74.wav",
        "text": "而電業法第49條修正是擴大民間代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/75.wav",
        "text": "以及專家學者代表要超過二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/76.wav",
        "text": "而且同步也強化了電價審議委員會公正公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/77.wav",
        "text": "公開透明的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/78.wav",
        "text": "這是三黨上個會期末"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/79.wav",
        "text": "而後也有一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/80.wav",
        "text": "就是民眾黨團當時所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/81.wav",
        "text": "要求電價審議委員會的會議紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/82.wav",
        "text": "要在兩週內公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/83.wav",
        "text": "比照央行等等公開發言紀要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/84.wav",
        "text": "以維持公開透明之原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/85.wav",
        "text": "也都已經依照立法院的修正跟要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/86.wav",
        "text": "有所作為他們的電價費率審議會設置及運作要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/87.wav",
        "text": "也都因應做了相關的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/88.wav",
        "text": "委員的名單也依各黨團的要求做了調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/89.wav",
        "text": "\n為什麼上會期我們針對電業法第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/90.wav",
        "text": "朝野三黨可以有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/91.wav",
        "text": "促成審議會的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/92.wav",
        "text": "增加公開透明以及民間參與專業導入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/93.wav",
        "text": "目的就是讓電價的調整這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/94.wav",
        "text": "回到專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/95.wav",
        "text": "而不是由政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/96.wav",
        "text": "決定如果依這樣的邏輯來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/97.wav",
        "text": "電價調漲或調降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/98.wav",
        "text": "已經有一個非常清楚的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/99.wav",
        "text": "也是我們剛剛修過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/100.wav",
        "text": "所以我要提醒的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/101.wav",
        "text": "我們應當就依著我們上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/102.wav",
        "text": "大家共同努力的方向而且已經入法了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/103.wav",
        "text": "讓電價回歸專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/104.wav",
        "text": "電價審議就是讓審議會專業處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/105.wav",
        "text": "\n如果要馬上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/106.wav",
        "text": "這是比較不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/107.wav",
        "text": "是不是又把有政治性的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/108.wav",
        "text": "跟電價的調升放在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/109.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣可能不是太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/110.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是做這樣的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/111.wav",
        "text": "但是如果要這樣的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/112.wav",
        "text": "我們可以安排大家有共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/113.wav",
        "text": "那是不是能夠跟台電1,000億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/114.wav",
        "text": "追加減預算就併在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/115.wav",
        "text": "這樣主題相符"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/116.wav",
        "text": "然後對話可以更聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/117.wav",
        "text": "在時間的調配上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/118.wav",
        "text": "也更為妥適合宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/119.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長的寶貴發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/120.wav",
        "text": "傅總召跟麥幹事長還有洪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/121.wav",
        "text": "如果要發言的話可以發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/122.wav",
        "text": "\n我先嘗試做個小結論好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/123.wav",
        "text": "針對三黨主要黨團幹部的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/124.wav",
        "text": "20號開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/125.wav",
        "text": "大家都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/126.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/127.wav",
        "text": "第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/128.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/129.wav",
        "text": "開議之後能夠在23號24"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/130.wav",
        "text": "號直接加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/131.wav",
        "text": "放在下星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/132.wav",
        "text": "但是國民黨跟民進黨團是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/133.wav",
        "text": "20號開議之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/134.wav",
        "text": "就開始進行行政院長施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/135.wav",
        "text": "這是有點不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/136.wav",
        "text": "的\n所以我來唸唸看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/137.wav",
        "text": "如果大家同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/138.wav",
        "text": "我們先來確定20號開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/139.wav",
        "text": "就是我們今天做個初步結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/140.wav",
        "text": "各黨團共原則上20號開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/141.wav",
        "text": "循例進行行政院院長施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/142.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/143.wav",
        "text": "個\n今天我們協商的題目是開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/144.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是先針對開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/145.wav",
        "text": "我會請議事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/146.wav",
        "text": "送給各黨鞭來參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/147.wav",
        "text": "現在就發到各位手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/148.wav",
        "text": "\n好請黃國昌總召再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/149.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/150.wav",
        "text": "我想要先確定一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/151.wav",
        "text": "開議日20號開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/152.wav",
        "text": "再說明一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/153.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/154.wav",
        "text": "我們早就主張要及早開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/155.wav",
        "text": "今天18號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/156.wav",
        "text": "最近的日期就是20號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/157.wav",
        "text": "那當然就是20號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/158.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/159.wav",
        "text": "針對有關開議以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/160.wav",
        "text": "的議事日程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/161.wav",
        "text": "是不是今天協商的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/162.wav",
        "text": "如果不是今天協商的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/163.wav",
        "text": "或今天協商沒有共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/164.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是要在20號之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/165.wav",
        "text": "還是要在20號當天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/166.wav",
        "text": "針對有關議事日程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/167.wav",
        "text": "來進行表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/168.wav",
        "text": "因為台灣民眾黨有台灣民眾黨的議事日程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/169.wav",
        "text": "針對要請行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/170.wav",
        "text": "有外部機制參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/171.wav",
        "text": "根本完全沒有衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/172.wav",
        "text": "在邏輯上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/173.wav",
        "text": "根本是兩個層次不一樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/174.wav",
        "text": "但我也不想要在今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/175.wav",
        "text": "一開始的第一次黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/176.wav",
        "text": "針對兩個明明層次不一樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/177.wav",
        "text": "在這邊繼續鬧得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/178.wav",
        "text": "大家好像情緒都不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/179.wav",
        "text": "\n各黨團有各黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/180.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團的立場就是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/181.wav",
        "text": "理由我們也跟社會做了說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/182.wav",
        "text": "其他黨團如果認為沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/183.wav",
        "text": "或者是要另外併我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/184.wav",
        "text": "也尊重其他黨團對他們立場的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/185.wav",
        "text": "但我現在比較關心的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/186.wav",
        "text": "除了開議日之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/187.wav",
        "text": "議事日程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/188.wav",
        "text": "是不是今天協商的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/189.wav",
        "text": "如果不是協商的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/190.wav",
        "text": "而針對議事日程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/191.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團有不同的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/192.wav",
        "text": "那我們勢必就要透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/193.wav",
        "text": "院會的民主程序來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/194.wav",
        "text": "如果透過院會的民主程序來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/195.wav",
        "text": "是20號當天來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/196.wav",
        "text": "還是什麼時候來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/197.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召寶貴的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/198.wav",
        "text": "我想大家是有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/199.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠針對能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/200.wav",
        "text": "和電價政策的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/201.wav",
        "text": "對這件事情是有關注的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/202.wav",
        "text": "大家也想多知道一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/203.wav",
        "text": "我們的想法很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/204.wav",
        "text": "行政院確實是可以多做說明跟報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/205.wav",
        "text": "的但因為這件事情本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/206.wav",
        "text": "其實是一體兩面的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/207.wav",
        "text": "跟目前台電希望提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/208.wav",
        "text": "追加減預算1,000億的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/209.wav",
        "text": "簡單來說這就是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/210.wav",
        "text": "我想瞭解能源政策的人都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/211.wav",
        "text": "這其實就是同一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/212.wav",
        "text": "電價怎麼訂當然確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/213.wav",
        "text": "會跟能源配比有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/214.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的提議是我們不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/215.wav",
        "text": "不該報告這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/216.wav",
        "text": "不是說要閃避能源配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/217.wav",
        "text": "或者是電價政策的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/218.wav",
        "text": "而是我們接下來就是要來針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/219.wav",
        "text": "台電的追加減預算1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/220.wav",
        "text": "就一併地併起來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/221.wav",
        "text": "如果要要求行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/222.wav",
        "text": "針對能源配比的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/223.wav",
        "text": "我們也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/224.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不是說不要報告這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/225.wav",
        "text": "不是這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/226.wav",
        "text": "我覺得也可以報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/227.wav",
        "text": "能源配比跟電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/228.wav",
        "text": "就跟這個1,000億的追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/229.wav",
        "text": "一併來做行政院長的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/230.wav",
        "text": "我們的想法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/231.wav",
        "text": "就這麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/232.wav",
        "text": "沒有否定民眾黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/233.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝洪副幹事長的寶貴發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/234.wav",
        "text": "\n現在林思銘書記長請繼續發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/235.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/236.wav",
        "text": "院長我想我提出一個折衷的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/237.wav",
        "text": "就是9月20日來開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/238.wav",
        "text": "然後行政院長來做施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/239.wav",
        "text": "我們進行總質詢這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/240.wav",
        "text": "我想三黨都是意見一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/241.wav",
        "text": "的部分要請院長來做專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/242.wav",
        "text": "我想基本上我們認為這是有必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/243.wav",
        "text": "我也贊同國昌講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/244.wav",
        "text": "其實修法跟院長來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/245.wav",
        "text": "台電1,000億的撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/246.wav",
        "text": "這些問題都需要院長來做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/247.wav",
        "text": "而不是由經濟部長來做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/248.wav",
        "text": "所以我想院長來做專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/249.wav",
        "text": "絕對是有他的必要性跟民眾來說明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/250.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們覺得在星期一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/251.wav",
        "text": "下週一如果加開一次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/252.wav",
        "text": "就是星期一請院長就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/253.wav",
        "text": "電價的配比及電價調整來做專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/254.wav",
        "text": "我們加開一次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/255.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/256.wav",
        "text": "謝謝思銘書記長再度發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/257.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請吳思瑤書記長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/258.wav",
        "text": "我們看到這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/259.wav",
        "text": "預擬的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/260.wav",
        "text": "第一點就是同意9月20日來開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/261.wav",
        "text": "第二點是920就邀請行政院院長來施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/262.wav",
        "text": "當中第一點的最後一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/263.wav",
        "text": "第1次會議議事日程以草案逕送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/264.wav",
        "text": "這個可能再商榷一下再說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/265.wav",
        "text": "我們是覺得以前過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/266.wav",
        "text": "第1次院會就是總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/267.wav",
        "text": "剛剛大家都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/268.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是你放了這一句話好像預留一個伏筆說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/269.wav",
        "text": "草案逕送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/270.wav",
        "text": "是不是又會變更了施政報告的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/271.wav",
        "text": "一般議程我們就讓程序委員會去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/272.wav",
        "text": "嘛否則現在放這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/273.wav",
        "text": "我會覺得就是一個空白的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/274.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法很明確知道那個草案是什麼草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/275.wav",
        "text": "所以如果三黨都有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/276.wav",
        "text": "周五就是總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/277.wav",
        "text": "過去的往例第1次院會就是總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/278.wav",
        "text": "那就是很清楚五二就是總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/279.wav",
        "text": "這是第一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/280.wav",
        "text": "所以我對於這個最後一句話是有疑義的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/281.wav",
        "text": "議事日程議案怎麼排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/282.wav",
        "text": "就走程序委員會的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/283.wav",
        "text": "\n第二件事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/284.wav",
        "text": "要安排專案報告各黨大家可以來磋商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/285.wav",
        "text": "磋商的包括主題跟時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/286.wav",
        "text": "主題的部分民眾黨提出的能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/287.wav",
        "text": "跟台電的電價政策等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/288.wav",
        "text": "是可以進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/289.wav",
        "text": "但是何妨就跟三大預算案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/290.wav",
        "text": "追加減台電的1,000億一起進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/291.wav",
        "text": "因為就如同剛剛我們副幹事長洪申翰說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/292.wav",
        "text": "這是一個政策的一體兩面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/293.wav",
        "text": "然後我也要補充三大預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/294.wav",
        "text": "包括台電1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/295.wav",
        "text": "要跟思銘書記長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/296.wav",
        "text": "也是院長領銜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/297.wav",
        "text": "部會一起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/298.wav",
        "text": "所以一樣就是卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/299.wav",
        "text": "加所有能源政策相關的部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/300.wav",
        "text": "他本來就要來進行這一筆預算的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/301.wav",
        "text": "那跟主題相關的專案報告併在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/302.wav",
        "text": "這就效率上專業上時間的分配上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/303.wav",
        "text": "都非常合宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/304.wav",
        "text": "所以如果在野黨希望能夠有這個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/305.wav",
        "text": "那就跟追加減1,000億放在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/306.wav",
        "text": "因為它是同一個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/307.wav",
        "text": "然後時間點下周一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/308.wav",
        "text": "就等於是加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/309.wav",
        "text": "大家要同意一開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/310.wav",
        "text": "這好像又回到上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/311.wav",
        "text": "就是有在野黨又要加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/312.wav",
        "text": "一個會期剛開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/313.wav",
        "text": "會期有很多的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/314.wav",
        "text": "可以邀請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/315.wav",
        "text": "部會首長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/316.wav",
        "text": "如果又要再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/317.wav",
        "text": "就在周一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/318.wav",
        "text": "我們連召委都是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/319.wav",
        "text": "有作業的時間要三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/320.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以才會是25號下周三選舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/321.wav",
        "text": "嘛現在周一又要加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/322.wav",
        "text": "一開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/323.wav",
        "text": "我好像又回到上個會期的那個輪迴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/324.wav",
        "text": "有這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/325.wav",
        "text": "急迫到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/326.wav",
        "text": "一定要下周一就加開院會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/327.wav",
        "text": "我想合在一起這是非常合宜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/328.wav",
        "text": "所以就這個議題是一個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/329.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨團的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/330.wav",
        "text": "就時間點上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/331.wav",
        "text": "我們認為我們再次說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/332.wav",
        "text": "920施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/333.wav",
        "text": "然後再下一次927當天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/334.wav",
        "text": "就進行總預算的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/335.wav",
        "text": "同樣都是卓院長率領"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/336.wav",
        "text": "內閣部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/337.wav",
        "text": "然後台電的追加減1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/338.wav",
        "text": "plus民眾黨提出來的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/339.wav",
        "text": "可以再排一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/340.wav",
        "text": "院長照樣率部會首長一起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/341.wav",
        "text": "這樣清楚明瞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/342.wav",
        "text": "有效率專業也有扣合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/343.wav",
        "text": "能夠聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/344.wav",
        "text": "也爭取在野黨同仁的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/345.wav",
        "text": "對時間是大家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/346.wav",
        "text": "有多少議程做多少事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/347.wav",
        "text": "讓行政跟立法之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/348.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠有好的默契好的配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/349.wav",
        "text": "我想這是必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/350.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤幹事長再度的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/351.wav",
        "text": "\n請黃國昌總召請繼續發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/352.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/353.wav",
        "text": "擬的決定事項一的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/354.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/355.wav",
        "text": "看起來就只有五二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/356.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們剛剛所提的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/357.wav",
        "text": "是因為下禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/358.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何委員會要進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/359.wav",
        "text": "不會干擾到任何委員會的進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/360.wav",
        "text": "第二個這個暑假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/361.wav",
        "text": "其實也過得滿長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/362.wav",
        "text": "第三個能源政策跟電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/363.wav",
        "text": "這本來就是行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/364.wav",
        "text": "每天都在做要準備好的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/365.wav",
        "text": "你總不可能說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/366.wav",
        "text": "好像這是一個什麼新的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/367.wav",
        "text": "奇怪的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/368.wav",
        "text": "今天突然提出來的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/369.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/370.wav",
        "text": "從這一屆國會開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/371.wav",
        "text": "全體國人就關心這件事吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/372.wav",
        "text": "經濟部部長來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/373.wav",
        "text": "國發會主委台電董事長相關的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/374.wav",
        "text": "在這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/375.wav",
        "text": "我想我對他們很有信心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/376.wav",
        "text": "準備很充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/377.wav",
        "text": "因為這是他們的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/378.wav",
        "text": "每天都在做的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/379.wav",
        "text": "全體國人最關心的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/380.wav",
        "text": "負責任的說清楚講明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/381.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是回應全體國人的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/382.wav",
        "text": "\n也因此這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/383.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/384.wav",
        "text": "開議的日期我們同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/385.wav",
        "text": "但議事日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/386.wav",
        "text": "到底要怎麼進行這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/387.wav",
        "text": "因為這是一個協商的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/388.wav",
        "text": "每一個黨團有每一個黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/389.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/390.wav",
        "text": "如果各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/391.wav",
        "text": "彼此之間的立場不一樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/392.wav",
        "text": "那我們就針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/393.wav",
        "text": "各自所提出來的議事日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/394.wav",
        "text": "到院會裡面透過民主程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/395.wav",
        "text": "來加以解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/396.wav",
        "text": "這個我相信應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/397.wav",
        "text": "國會審議民主的ABC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/398.wav",
        "text": "不需要再多做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/399.wav",
        "text": "針對第一點的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/400.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有辦法涵蓋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/401.wav",
        "text": "的一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/402.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/403.wav",
        "text": "跟要求好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/404.wav",
        "text": "隱隱然地把下禮拜一的這個東西給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/405.wav",
        "text": "否決了因此對於這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/406.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠再寫得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/407.wav",
        "text": "更明確一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/408.wav",
        "text": "就是我們所希望提出來的議事日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/409.wav",
        "text": "草案如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/410.wav",
        "text": "沒有得到其他黨團成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/411.wav",
        "text": "的支持被否決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/412.wav",
        "text": "只要是透過民主程序處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/413.wav",
        "text": "我們都會接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/414.wav",
        "text": "但沒有道理說沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/415.wav",
        "text": "踐行這個民主程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/416.wav",
        "text": "就要求我們接受某一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/417.wav",
        "text": "特定政黨的黨團他們所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/418.wav",
        "text": "提出來的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/419.wav",
        "text": "對於這樣子文字的預擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/420.wav",
        "text": "斟酌那個空間就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/421.wav",
        "text": "920開議這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/422.wav",
        "text": "我再度重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/423.wav",
        "text": "我們支持沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/424.wav",
        "text": "但有關議事日程草案的這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/425.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團有不一樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/426.wav",
        "text": "那既然有不一樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/427.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/428.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法議事規則相關的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/429.wav",
        "text": "我們就照程序走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/430.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/431.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/432.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤幹事長再度發言請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/433.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/434.wav",
        "text": "我想要再確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/435.wav",
        "text": "我先講基本立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/436.wav",
        "text": "簡單的事簡單處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/437.wav",
        "text": "不用一開議把簡單的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/438.wav",
        "text": "議程安排複雜化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/439.wav",
        "text": "的處理真的沒必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/440.wav",
        "text": "開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/441.wav",
        "text": "就進行總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/442.wav",
        "text": "從以前到現在就是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/443.wav",
        "text": "要增加專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/444.wav",
        "text": "可以可是剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/445.wav",
        "text": "一直沒有辦法回應說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/446.wav",
        "text": "他同不同意把主題相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/447.wav",
        "text": "台電1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/448.wav",
        "text": "追加減預算跟專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/449.wav",
        "text": "綁在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/450.wav",
        "text": "兩個合在一起是有意義的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/451.wav",
        "text": "因為它是一個政策的一體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/452.wav",
        "text": "兩面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/453.wav",
        "text": "如果你要討論電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/454.wav",
        "text": "政策要如何調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/455.wav",
        "text": "那不得不去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/456.wav",
        "text": "一同的探討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/457.wav",
        "text": "在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/458.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨對於台電撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/459.wav",
        "text": "1,000億認為合理不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/460.wav",
        "text": "可能覺得撥太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/461.wav",
        "text": "可能覺得補太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/462.wav",
        "text": "升漲或是漲幅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/463.wav",
        "text": "都會有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/464.wav",
        "text": "所以這個問題一直沒有聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/465.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨代表的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/466.wav",
        "text": "我說簡單的事情簡單處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/467.wav",
        "text": "專業的事情專業處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/468.wav",
        "text": "這樣更有效能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/469.wav",
        "text": "更能聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/470.wav",
        "text": "所以我再次強調如果要有能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/471.wav",
        "text": "跟電價政策的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/472.wav",
        "text": "專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/473.wav",
        "text": "就是要跟台電追加減的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/474.wav",
        "text": "1,000億預算在一起進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/475.wav",
        "text": "因為來報告的都是卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/476.wav",
        "text": "第二件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/477.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也越聽越亂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/478.wav",
        "text": "就是我說的簡單的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/479.wav",
        "text": "有人就偏偏要給它搞複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/480.wav",
        "text": "搞得自己最認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/481.wav",
        "text": "剛剛民眾黨又提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/482.wav",
        "text": "五一二一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/483.wav",
        "text": "因為我本來的理解是禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/484.wav",
        "text": "是加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/485.wav",
        "text": "我不知道要怎麼排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/486.wav",
        "text": "現在民眾黨的代表說五一二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/487.wav",
        "text": "要變成一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/488.wav",
        "text": "然後又要有這個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/489.wav",
        "text": "所以可能變成什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/490.wav",
        "text": "然後要專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/491.wav",
        "text": "然後議事日程要循民主程序處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/492.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五一開始就是專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/493.wav",
        "text": "不是總質詢喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/494.wav",
        "text": "因為他剛剛的說法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/495.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/496.wav",
        "text": "呀簡單的事情為什麼要複雜處理呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/497.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/498.wav",
        "text": "就是開議就是總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/499.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/500.wav",
        "text": "然後五二一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/501.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果要再加開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/502.wav",
        "text": "了那是加開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/503.wav",
        "text": "OK加開的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/504.wav",
        "text": "是不是要回到我說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/505.wav",
        "text": "跟專報在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/506.wav",
        "text": "這樣討論才有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/507.wav",
        "text": "才聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/508.wav",
        "text": "要不然你講了一次專報完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/509.wav",
        "text": "再來排一次台電1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/510.wav",
        "text": "追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/511.wav",
        "text": "同樣主題的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/512.wav",
        "text": "\n簡單的事情就清楚明瞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/513.wav",
        "text": "切中要害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/514.wav",
        "text": "不用這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/515.wav",
        "text": "彎來彎去轉來轉去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/516.wav",
        "text": "所以我不太清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/517.wav",
        "text": "他們五一二又要一次會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/518.wav",
        "text": "然後又要用專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/519.wav",
        "text": "那是要用專報取代總質詢嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/520.wav",
        "text": "謝謝思瑤幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/521.wav",
        "text": "我想民進黨的思瑤可能真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/522.wav",
        "text": "沒有聽清楚我剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/523.wav",
        "text": "當然民眾黨的意見是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/524.wav",
        "text": "折衷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/525.wav",
        "text": "所以我說禮拜一加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/526.wav",
        "text": "就是處理專報這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/527.wav",
        "text": "至於您剛才一直提說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/528.wav",
        "text": "我們星期五會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/529.wav",
        "text": "有一個預算的專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/530.wav",
        "text": "但是預算的那1,000億是有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/531.wav",
        "text": "台電撥補的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/532.wav",
        "text": "跟我們現在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/533.wav",
        "text": "用電配比的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/534.wav",
        "text": "跟電價的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/535.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為這是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/536.wav",
        "text": "的你那個只限縮在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/537.wav",
        "text": "1,000億給它這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/538.wav",
        "text": "的而我們現在聚焦的專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/539.wav",
        "text": "是有關電的配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/540.wav",
        "text": "那是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/541.wav",
        "text": "是執政團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/542.wav",
        "text": "行政院所擬的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/543.wav",
        "text": "跟所謂電價調整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/544.wav",
        "text": "講清楚說明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/545.wav",
        "text": "這是不一樣的預算歸預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/546.wav",
        "text": "政策面的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/547.wav",
        "text": "來說清楚講明白的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/548.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/549.wav",
        "text": "請洪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/550.wav",
        "text": "其實我說實話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/551.wav",
        "text": "我剛才在聽各黨的相關意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/552.wav",
        "text": "其實差異沒有很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/553.wav",
        "text": "剛才思銘委員講的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/554.wav",
        "text": "我作一個簡短的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/555.wav",
        "text": "1,000億預算的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/556.wav",
        "text": "後面的問題當然就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/557.wav",
        "text": "台電的財務問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/558.wav",
        "text": "台電的財務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/559.wav",
        "text": "就是成本跟支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/560.wav",
        "text": "成本跟支出當然是跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/561.wav",
        "text": "能源政策的配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/562.wav",
        "text": "有高度的相關嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/563.wav",
        "text": "我想這個國民黨也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/564.wav",
        "text": "這個民眾黨之前其實就已經講很多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/565.wav",
        "text": "我們之前每次談到電價政策的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/566.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨的張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/567.wav",
        "text": "都會說那你先交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/568.wav",
        "text": "配比問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/569.wav",
        "text": "其實電價的問題跟配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/570.wav",
        "text": "跟支出這當然是同一件事所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/571.wav",
        "text": "以我說這是一體兩面的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/572.wav",
        "text": "所以談台電的追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/573.wav",
        "text": "這1,000億要怎麼樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/574.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要編列1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/575.wav",
        "text": "這當然與台電的財務問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/576.wav",
        "text": "到底是長什麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/577.wav",
        "text": "財務問題後面你的成本跟支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/578.wav",
        "text": "當然是來自於配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/579.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛才是覺得這個討論是很好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/580.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以趁機把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/581.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/582.wav",
        "text": "可能是因為現在配比的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/583.wav",
        "text": "可能是因為我們電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/584.wav",
        "text": "目前政策跟機制的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/585.wav",
        "text": "這是一個完整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/586.wav",
        "text": "也因為這是一個完整的政策內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/587.wav",
        "text": "所以我們同意談配比問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/588.wav",
        "text": "請卓院長來報告配比問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/589.wav",
        "text": "報告電價機制的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/590.wav",
        "text": "我們也都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/591.wav",
        "text": "而不是用兩個專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/592.wav",
        "text": "或兩個報告其實可能都在談同一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/593.wav",
        "text": "這也不一定是好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/594.wav",
        "text": "我猜想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/595.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/596.wav",
        "text": "之所以想要在禮拜一的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/597.wav",
        "text": "他可能有他自己在議事排程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/598.wav",
        "text": "上面的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/599.wav",
        "text": "可是我們也覺得沒有必要讓明明是同一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/600.wav",
        "text": "非得要分開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/601.wav",
        "text": "變成是兩個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/602.wav",
        "text": "這對於議事的效率來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/603.wav",
        "text": "其實也是一個浪費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/604.wav",
        "text": "差異並不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/605.wav",
        "text": "只是現在我們怎麼讓一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/606.wav",
        "text": "報告得更完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/607.wav",
        "text": "甚至大家想要他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/608.wav",
        "text": "特別針對配比的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/609.wav",
        "text": "多做說明民進黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/610.wav",
        "text": "也不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/611.wav",
        "text": "但這就是一體兩面的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/612.wav",
        "text": "這就是一個完整的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/613.wav",
        "text": "我們的態度其實是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/614.wav",
        "text": "我們還是聚焦回到我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/615.wav",
        "text": "召請朝野協商最主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/616.wav",
        "text": "我們提出來要討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/617.wav",
        "text": "那就是20日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/618.wav",
        "text": "開議的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/619.wav",
        "text": "容我歸納各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/620.wav",
        "text": "剛才主要的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/621.wav",
        "text": "我嘗試性把它歸納一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/622.wav",
        "text": "大家聽聽看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/623.wav",
        "text": "有意見我們再來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/624.wav",
        "text": "\n我們今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/625.wav",
        "text": "現在做個初步結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/626.wav",
        "text": "一各黨團共識原則上20日開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/627.wav",
        "text": "循例進行行政院院長施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/628.wav",
        "text": "二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/629.wav",
        "text": "今天協商的題目是開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/630.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是先針對開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/631.wav",
        "text": "等一下請大家先簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/632.wav",
        "text": "同意協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/633.wav",
        "text": "協商結論的草稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/634.wav",
        "text": "我也請議事人員再送請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/635.wav",
        "text": "各位黨鞭來參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/636.wav",
        "text": "三至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/637.wav",
        "text": "剛才大家所提出行政院專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/638.wav",
        "text": "報告還有加開院會等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/639.wav",
        "text": "事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/640.wav",
        "text": "我們可以在第1次院會用議程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/641.wav",
        "text": "送院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/642.wav",
        "text": "處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/643.wav",
        "text": "\n第二部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/644.wav",
        "text": "如果各位同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/645.wav",
        "text": "我們還是循慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/646.wav",
        "text": "舉行第11屆第2會期第1次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/647.wav",
        "text": "及次週二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/648.wav",
        "text": "視為一次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/649.wav",
        "text": "國是論壇及臨時提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/650.wav",
        "text": "援往例處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/651.wav",
        "text": "每一個禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/652.wav",
        "text": "為國是論壇時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/653.wav",
        "text": "處理臨時提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/654.wav",
        "text": "第1次會議議事日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/655.wav",
        "text": "以草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/656.wav",
        "text": "逕送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/657.wav",
        "text": "有關23日（星期一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/658.wav",
        "text": "）加開院會處理相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/659.wav",
        "text": "第1次會議議程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/660.wav",
        "text": "依黨團提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/661.wav",
        "text": "進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/662.wav",
        "text": "9月20日邀請行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/663.wav",
        "text": "率同各部會首長列席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/664.wav",
        "text": "進行施政報告並備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/665.wav",
        "text": "報告後隨即進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/666.wav",
        "text": "政黨質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/667.wav",
        "text": "當天質詢人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/668.wav",
        "text": "一樣依慣例國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/669.wav",
        "text": "推派3員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/670.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團推派3員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/671.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/672.wav",
        "text": "質詢的順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/673.wav",
        "text": "依國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/674.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/675.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團之順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/676.wav",
        "text": "輪流交叉方式進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/677.wav",
        "text": "有關質詢期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/678.wav",
        "text": "之順序及人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/679.wav",
        "text": "均依例授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/680.wav",
        "text": "當次會議我們不處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/681.wav",
        "text": "臨時提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/682.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/683.wav",
        "text": "現在已經發到各位的手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/684.wav",
        "text": "如果同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/685.wav",
        "text": "我們就開始進行朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/686.wav",
        "text": "我們來簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/687.wav",
        "text": "來確定今天朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/688.wav",
        "text": "達到我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/689.wav",
        "text": "預定召開會議的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/690.wav",
        "text": "請大家參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/691.wav",
        "text": "\n請吳思瑤幹事長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/692.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/693.wav",
        "text": "新的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/694.wav",
        "text": "這個有點贅語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/695.wav",
        "text": "啦第一點的最後方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/696.wav",
        "text": "議事日程以草案逕送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/697.wav",
        "text": "有關23日（星期一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/698.wav",
        "text": "）加開院會處理相關專案報告事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/699.wav",
        "text": "併同第1次會議議程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/700.wav",
        "text": "依黨團提出進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/701.wav",
        "text": "這個有需要寫嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/702.wav",
        "text": "應該回到第一版就好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/703.wav",
        "text": "大家意思很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/704.wav",
        "text": "這不是很清楚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/705.wav",
        "text": "我提一下我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/706.wav",
        "text": "因為這個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/707.wav",
        "text": "想當然爾的事情是沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/708.wav",
        "text": "好我講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/709.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得這樣子就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/710.wav",
        "text": "某黨團講了一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/711.wav",
        "text": "這個協商結論就要把它放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/712.wav",
        "text": "因為本來議事日程就可以這樣處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/713.wav",
        "text": "啦我是覺得有需要放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/714.wav",
        "text": "嗎這個是這兩點的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/715.wav",
        "text": "\n另外也要提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/716.wav",
        "text": "有關920當天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/717.wav",
        "text": "當天是禮拜六"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/718.wav",
        "text": "所以會在920當天有演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/719.wav",
        "text": "據我們跟行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/720.wav",
        "text": "的了解行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/721.wav",
        "text": "有來表達說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/722.wav",
        "text": "會有需要全員就地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/723.wav",
        "text": "掩護的這些演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/724.wav",
        "text": "所以在那個時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/725.wav",
        "text": "也就是9點到10點間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/726.wav",
        "text": "院長這邊可能要考量一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/727.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/728.wav",
        "text": "早上9點21分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/729.wav",
        "text": "的那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/730.wav",
        "text": "因為那個是全員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/731.wav",
        "text": "都要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/732.wav",
        "text": "對我是要提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/733.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/734.wav",
        "text": "好我們反映一下這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/735.wav",
        "text": "因為是要全員掩護誰在臺上講話到一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/736.wav",
        "text": "他要躲到桌子下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/737.wav",
        "text": "因為行政部門希望這個演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/738.wav",
        "text": "能夠確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/739.wav",
        "text": "那會不會影響議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/740.wav",
        "text": "然後還有第二件事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/741.wav",
        "text": "院長是不是一併可以在今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/742.wav",
        "text": "能夠來處理依往例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/743.wav",
        "text": "第2次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/744.wav",
        "text": "院長率部會來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/745.wav",
        "text": "是不是把924"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/746.wav",
        "text": "定為總預算的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/747.wav",
        "text": "也把期程列下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/748.wav",
        "text": "927"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/749.wav",
        "text": "下週五第2次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/750.wav",
        "text": "會議往例也是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/751.wav",
        "text": "是不是一併可以落在今天的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/752.wav",
        "text": "協商共識裡頭來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/753.wav",
        "text": "我有臨時動議稍後請院長保留時間給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/754.wav",
        "text": "高處長就吳思瑤幹事長所提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/755.wav",
        "text": "時程都是由院會來定期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/756.wav",
        "text": "邀請過去實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/757.wav",
        "text": "針對預算案何時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/758.wav",
        "text": "要邀請行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/759.wav",
        "text": "主計長財政部門來是透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/760.wav",
        "text": "協商的方式來進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/761.wav",
        "text": "今天是開議日的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/762.wav",
        "text": "如果大家願意當然是可以針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/763.wav",
        "text": "總預算來進行後續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/764.wav",
        "text": "以上是這個樣子如果大家願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/765.wav",
        "text": "的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/766.wav",
        "text": "呼籲大家我們還是聚焦回到開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/767.wav",
        "text": "議日因為這個不確定後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/768.wav",
        "text": "你定錨都定不下來嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/769.wav",
        "text": "好不好那如果同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/770.wav",
        "text": "剛才已經發到各位手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/771.wav",
        "text": "我們就來同意這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/772.wav",
        "text": "幹事長跟洪申翰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/773.wav",
        "text": "副幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/774.wav",
        "text": "對現在最新送到您手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/775.wav",
        "text": "我們休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/776.wav",
        "text": "我們請吳思瑤幹事長發言完畢以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/777.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/778.wav",
        "text": "預擬的協商結論兩點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/779.wav",
        "text": "很清楚的是920"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/780.wav",
        "text": "的10點開始開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/781.wav",
        "text": "不處理臨時提案不進行國是論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/782.wav",
        "text": "的那個時刻然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/783.wav",
        "text": "也明定了當天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/784.wav",
        "text": "行政院率各部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/785.wav",
        "text": "進行施政報告並備質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/786.wav",
        "text": "然後各黨的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/787.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/788.wav",
        "text": "循往例來進行至於第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/789.wav",
        "text": "的部分讓大家參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/790.wav",
        "text": "兩句話其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/791.wav",
        "text": "有點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/792.wav",
        "text": "贅語這個給黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/793.wav",
        "text": "參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/794.wav",
        "text": "因為您剛剛已經加列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/795.wav",
        "text": "議事日程以草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/796.wav",
        "text": "逕送院會處理其實就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/797.wav",
        "text": "含括了你後面那一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/798.wav",
        "text": "23號星期一是否"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/799.wav",
        "text": "加開院會處理專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/800.wav",
        "text": "的這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/801.wav",
        "text": "其實就可以併同第1次會議議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/802.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是商量一下最後那一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/803.wav",
        "text": "有沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/804.wav",
        "text": "這個可以請黃總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/805.wav",
        "text": "意思是一樣的再請黃總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/806.wav",
        "text": "這個最後我們再磋商一下下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/807.wav",
        "text": "好的謝謝思瑤幹事長請黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/808.wav",
        "text": "我想事情還是比較明確點好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/809.wav",
        "text": "幹事長認為意思是一樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/810.wav",
        "text": "我相信也沒有反對的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/811.wav",
        "text": "既然沒有反對的意思的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/812.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的立場是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/813.wav",
        "text": "第一點後面的那兩句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/814.wav",
        "text": "我們希望還是把它加上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/815.wav",
        "text": "既然認為意思是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/816.wav",
        "text": "這個是贅語那就請容許台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/817.wav",
        "text": "黨團希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/818.wav",
        "text": "堅持的要求把這兩個贅語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/819.wav",
        "text": "也放進去禮拜五處理的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/820.wav",
        "text": "會比較明確以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/821.wav",
        "text": "好現在國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/822.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁總召第一次發言請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/823.wav",
        "text": "辛苦了第一次召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/824.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商大家都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/825.wav",
        "text": "不過我還是第一個到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/826.wav",
        "text": "跟你長相左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/827.wav",
        "text": "中秋節剛過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/828.wav",
        "text": "我想今天月圓人團圓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/829.wav",
        "text": "協商還是氣氛好一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/830.wav",
        "text": "23號禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/831.wav",
        "text": "來做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/832.wav",
        "text": "能源配比的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/833.wav",
        "text": "我想這個是民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/834.wav",
        "text": "因為可能10月份又要漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/835.wav",
        "text": "要讓人民有知的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/836.wav",
        "text": "國會就是正在做這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/837.wav",
        "text": "20號開議是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/838.wav",
        "text": "大家都已經有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/839.wav",
        "text": "既然20號開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/840.wav",
        "text": "一次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/841.wav",
        "text": "除了20號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/842.wav",
        "text": "邀請卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/843.wav",
        "text": "接下來施政總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/844.wav",
        "text": "20號跟24號都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/845.wav",
        "text": "順利的來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/846.wav",
        "text": "我想今天大家可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/847.wav",
        "text": "沒有注意到一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/848.wav",
        "text": "就是到目前為止我們的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/849.wav",
        "text": "都沒有感覺要杯葛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/850.wav",
        "text": "閣揆上臺的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/851.wav",
        "text": "我想這對執政黨來講是一個非常好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/852.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望我們儘快來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/853.wav",
        "text": "所有的議事內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/854.wav",
        "text": "\n既然23號是多出來的一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/855.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有任何議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/856.wav",
        "text": "如果加開一個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/857.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/858.wav",
        "text": "是完全沒有影響的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/859.wav",
        "text": "而且也讓民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/860.wav",
        "text": "現在到底我們的能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/861.wav",
        "text": "10月是不是又要再漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/862.wav",
        "text": "電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/863.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要拿這麼多錢去補助台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/864.wav",
        "text": "我們整體的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/865.wav",
        "text": "是否失當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/866.wav",
        "text": "等等這些都是可以公開討論的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/867.wav",
        "text": "既然23號不會影響到整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/868.wav",
        "text": "議事的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/869.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/870.wav",
        "text": "應該大家都好商量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/871.wav",
        "text": "今天是第一次朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/872.wav",
        "text": "我們想讓這個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/873.wav",
        "text": "大家能夠一團和氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/874.wav",
        "text": "大家也都不要太堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/875.wav",
        "text": "就儘量讓這個事情儘早完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/876.wav",
        "text": "剛才有發言的就不要再重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/877.wav",
        "text": "傅總召剛剛講了一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/878.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也有同感啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/879.wav",
        "text": "傅總召剛才說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/880.wav",
        "text": "能源政策配比的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/881.wav",
        "text": "尤其是大家也關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/882.wav",
        "text": "是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/883.wav",
        "text": "為什麼還要再來撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/884.wav",
        "text": "其實傅總召這個講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/885.wav",
        "text": "也就是讓大家知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/886.wav",
        "text": "台電的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/887.wav",
        "text": "就跟能源配比及電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/888.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛才說傅總召講的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/889.wav",
        "text": "跟我們的想法其實也差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/890.wav",
        "text": "所以這也是為什麼我們會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/891.wav",
        "text": "如果要做專案報告的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/892.wav",
        "text": "其實台電的追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/893.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/894.wav",
        "text": "能源配比還有電價政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/895.wav",
        "text": "應該併在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/896.wav",
        "text": "這是我順著剛剛傅總召的話講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/897.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點我要說的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/898.wav",
        "text": "第1項裡面寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/899.wav",
        "text": "如果這是贅語的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/900.wav",
        "text": "想要把這個贅語放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/901.wav",
        "text": "如果23號（禮拜一）加開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/902.wav",
        "text": "這是民眾黨黨團的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/903.wav",
        "text": "這是他的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/904.wav",
        "text": "其實這個內容也可以併在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/905.wav",
        "text": "第1次院會的時候一併處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/906.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/907.wav",
        "text": "如果每個黨團要把自己的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/908.wav",
        "text": "明明可以併進最後那句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/909.wav",
        "text": "的期待都放上去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/910.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團是不是也可以把我們的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/911.wav",
        "text": "反正只要併同第1次會議議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/912.wav",
        "text": "草案其實意思都差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/913.wav",
        "text": "所以大家就可以開始無限的把自己的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/914.wav",
        "text": "都寫在上面囉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/915.wav",
        "text": "因為都是可以在第1次的議程草案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/916.wav",
        "text": "來處理對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/917.wav",
        "text": "不多我也順著剛剛黃總召的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/918.wav",
        "text": "我們把事情明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/919.wav",
        "text": "如果要明確化簡單化的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/920.wav",
        "text": "自己認為是贅語的東西放上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/921.wav",
        "text": "如果這個贅語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/922.wav",
        "text": "要放上去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/923.wav",
        "text": "我們也要放我們的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/924.wav",
        "text": "不知道為什麼只有民眾黨團的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/925.wav",
        "text": "可以放上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/926.wav",
        "text": "如果我們三個黨團都知道最後實質的意思差不多的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/927.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/928.wav",
        "text": "對接下來議程的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/929.wav",
        "text": "反正都可以併同在第1次會議程草案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/930.wav",
        "text": "依黨團提出進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/931.wav",
        "text": "我講的是邏輯問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/932.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣順著這個主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/933.wav",
        "text": "因為都未定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/934.wav",
        "text": "就是要在週五的議事日程來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/935.wav",
        "text": "如果最後一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/936.wav",
        "text": "就是大家的期待都能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/937.wav",
        "text": "滿足的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/938.wav",
        "text": "有關23日（星期一）加開院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/939.wav",
        "text": "相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/940.wav",
        "text": "預算案暨專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/941.wav",
        "text": "事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/942.wav",
        "text": "併同第1次會議議程草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/943.wav",
        "text": "因為我也很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/944.wav",
        "text": "我們要公平我的意思是要有這個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/945.wav",
        "text": "就是跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/946.wav",
        "text": "追加減預算一起進行才合宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/947.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/948.wav",
        "text": "我們的期待就文字上處理而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/949.wav",
        "text": "院會處理相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/950.wav",
        "text": "預算案暨專案報告事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/951.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/952.wav",
        "text": "大家的期待都放在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/953.wav",
        "text": "就是相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/954.wav",
        "text": "預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/955.wav",
        "text": "預算案暨專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/956.wav",
        "text": "也表達了我們剛剛的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/957.wav",
        "text": "也能夠被併同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/958.wav",
        "text": "一起來處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/959.wav",
        "text": "但最終都會回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/960.wav",
        "text": "第1次會議議事日程以草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/961.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/962.wav",
        "text": "這樣比較合理這樣彼此的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/963.wav",
        "text": "但是能不能夠進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/964.wav",
        "text": "一樣禮拜五的議事日程來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/965.wav",
        "text": "所以我方即民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/966.wav",
        "text": "相關預算案暨專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/967.wav",
        "text": "這樣合理啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/968.wav",
        "text": "你的期待我的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/969.wav",
        "text": "大家都能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/970.wav",
        "text": "一併來公平的對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/971.wav",
        "text": "現在我們請林思那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/972.wav",
        "text": "也沒關係我只是要表達我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/973.wav",
        "text": "文字敘述是處理相關專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/974.wav",
        "text": "相關專案是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/975.wav",
        "text": "所以你提的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/976.wav",
        "text": "也是包含在這個相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/977.wav",
        "text": "專案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/978.wav",
        "text": "你又講要再把預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/979.wav",
        "text": "寫清楚這不是贅文嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/980.wav",
        "text": "所以這就凸顯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/981.wav",
        "text": "一件事情這是贅文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/982.wav",
        "text": "就我的解讀這不是贅文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/983.wav",
        "text": "這是有意義的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/984.wav",
        "text": "我說如果你認為是贅文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/985.wav",
        "text": "因為這個是第1次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/986.wav",
        "text": "的議事日程以草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/987.wav",
        "text": "一件事──23號要不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/988.wav",
        "text": "加開院會去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/989.wav",
        "text": "相關專案報告的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/990.wav",
        "text": "這是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/991.wav",
        "text": "三黨在這個協商過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/992.wav",
        "text": "講的一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/993.wav",
        "text": "原本我們希望直接協商就把它完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/994.wav",
        "text": "剛才你也提到希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/995.wav",
        "text": "依照立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/996.wav",
        "text": "的議事日程來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/997.wav",
        "text": "所以我們把它加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/998.wav",
        "text": "如果有相關專案報告的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/999.wav",
        "text": "我們在23號併同第1次院會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1000.wav",
        "text": "這是OK的這不是贅文它有它的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1001.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1002.wav",
        "text": "我們先讓麥玉珍委員發言他還沒發言過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1003.wav",
        "text": "請麥玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1004.wav",
        "text": "然後請吳思瑤委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1005.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1006.wav",
        "text": "因為我們是黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1007.wav",
        "text": "我覺得黨團協商每個人都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1008.wav",
        "text": "每一個人要放進來才是達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1009.wav",
        "text": "不能說你的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1010.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我都聽不下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1011.wav",
        "text": "所以每一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1012.wav",
        "text": "都有修改文字的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1013.wav",
        "text": "看要不要放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1014.wav",
        "text": "同意就放不同意就不放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1015.wav",
        "text": "不要用這樣子的語言去講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1016.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1017.wav",
        "text": "因為討論都是三黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1018.wav",
        "text": "來決議要放哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1019.wav",
        "text": "要修哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1020.wav",
        "text": "誰要放我們要放你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1021.wav",
        "text": "要放我覺得不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1022.wav",
        "text": "這樣沒完沒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1023.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們要就事論事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1024.wav",
        "text": "到大家有共同結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1025.wav",
        "text": "都是討論出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1026.wav",
        "text": "所以以上報告謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1027.wav",
        "text": "謝謝麥玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1028.wav",
        "text": "剛剛麥委員講的我們很同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1029.wav",
        "text": "麥委員前面說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1030.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商每個人的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1031.wav",
        "text": "都可以被提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1032.wav",
        "text": "都可以被放入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1033.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我們也是覺得說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1034.wav",
        "text": "如果大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1035.wav",
        "text": "都有意見表達的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1036.wav",
        "text": "也都可以爭取放入的權利的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1037.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨團爭取想要放入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1038.wav",
        "text": "他們期待的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1039.wav",
        "text": "即便最後這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1040.wav",
        "text": "議程的處理沒有差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1041.wav",
        "text": "我們的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1042.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨團可以放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1043.wav",
        "text": "那我們是不是也可以爭取放我們的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1044.wav",
        "text": "我們的邏輯其實是一個等價的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1045.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1046.wav",
        "text": "發言邏輯我是覺得很可愛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1047.wav",
        "text": "某些部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1048.wav",
        "text": "我們也覺得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1049.wav",
        "text": "所以我順著你的話講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1050.wav",
        "text": "只有說她的發言可愛沒有說她長得可愛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1051.wav",
        "text": "這個大家再思考看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1052.wav",
        "text": "如果說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1053.wav",
        "text": "在野兩黨都很期待在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1054.wav",
        "text": "23號周一就有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1055.wav",
        "text": "專報的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1056.wav",
        "text": "因為現在是放在協商結論就等於未確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1057.wav",
        "text": "就是周五議程再處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1058.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1059.wav",
        "text": "如果你要進行就很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1060.wav",
        "text": "如果你要把時間訂下來專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1061.wav",
        "text": "就跟追加減預算一起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1062.wav",
        "text": "這樣也不用有周五議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1063.wav",
        "text": "未確定的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1064.wav",
        "text": "直接進行台電1,000億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1065.wav",
        "text": "追加預算及相關能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1066.wav",
        "text": "政策及電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1067.wav",
        "text": "政策的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1068.wav",
        "text": "因為我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1069.wav",
        "text": "的是完整的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1070.wav",
        "text": "不要被切割的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1071.wav",
        "text": "我們作為監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1072.wav",
        "text": "就是一個專報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1073.wav",
        "text": "就是把那個包在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1074.wav",
        "text": "完整的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1075.wav",
        "text": "完整對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1076.wav",
        "text": "讓行政部門可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1077.wav",
        "text": "很完整地針對台電的追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1078.wav",
        "text": "合宜不合宜在野可以監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1079.wav",
        "text": "\n然後因應著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1080.wav",
        "text": "有個追加減預算在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1081.wav",
        "text": "電價的調漲調降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1082.wav",
        "text": "又在什麼樣的range是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1083.wav",
        "text": "合宜的這個真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1084.wav",
        "text": "一體兩面你沒有辦法切割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1085.wav",
        "text": "啦所以如果在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1086.wav",
        "text": "這麼覺得周一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1087.wav",
        "text": "想做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1088.wav",
        "text": "那時間訂下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1089.wav",
        "text": "可以討論這個大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1090.wav",
        "text": "磋商一下可是真的不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1091.wav",
        "text": "把完整的政策一分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1092.wav",
        "text": "為二這樣討論不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1093.wav",
        "text": "全面所以我剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1094.wav",
        "text": "我期待的我們期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1095.wav",
        "text": "那是合理性的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1096.wav",
        "text": "啊台電追加減預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1097.wav",
        "text": "跟電價政策本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1098.wav",
        "text": "就是一個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1099.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要切兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1100.wav",
        "text": "這不是只有期待的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1101.wav",
        "text": "這是合理性跟專業性的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1102.wav",
        "text": "把它併在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1103.wav",
        "text": "923如果能夠確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1104.wav",
        "text": "兩個併在一起那923就訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1105.wav",
        "text": "OK啊就不用議程未確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1106.wav",
        "text": "再拋出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1107.wav",
        "text": "大家都有更具體想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1108.wav",
        "text": "要的時程那我們有很具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1109.wav",
        "text": "想要的政策完整性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1110.wav",
        "text": "可以一次被檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1111.wav",
        "text": "完整被監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1112.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是大家參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1113.wav",
        "text": "對然後我也要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1114.wav",
        "text": "再次拋出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1115.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1116.wav",
        "text": "針對總預算跟前瞻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1117.wav",
        "text": "進行的時程一併能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1118.wav",
        "text": "在今天有個共識這是非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1119.wav",
        "text": "好的好不好譬如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1120.wav",
        "text": "這是您的最終立場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1121.wav",
        "text": "就是你們確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1122.wav",
        "text": "就是總預算跟前瞻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1123.wav",
        "text": "能訂的話最好就在927那天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1124.wav",
        "text": "一次訂下來然後剛剛923"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1125.wav",
        "text": "如果要突破它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1126.wav",
        "text": "不讓它用議事日程去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1127.wav",
        "text": "是明確就定在923周一的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1128.wav",
        "text": "那就是讓完整的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1129.wav",
        "text": "一起被討論這樣才有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1130.wav",
        "text": "意義你已經表達過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1131.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1132.wav",
        "text": "員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1133.wav",
        "text": "很清楚的表達黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1134.wav",
        "text": "至於其他黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1135.wav",
        "text": "代表要用可愛來形容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1136.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝他們的稱讚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1137.wav",
        "text": "那比較可愛的形容詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1138.wav",
        "text": "應該或許是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1139.wav",
        "text": "有的時候我比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1140.wav",
        "text": "客氣的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1141.wav",
        "text": "對方聽不懂客氣的意涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1142.wav",
        "text": "就順著客氣的意涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1143.wav",
        "text": "往上攀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1144.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話我就把話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1145.wav",
        "text": "再講得更明確一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1146.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛院長所講的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1147.wav",
        "text": "那兩句話台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1148.wav",
        "text": "黨團認為不是贅語有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1149.wav",
        "text": "放進去的必要我們堅持放入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1150.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1151.wav",
        "text": "要把兩個不同層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1152.wav",
        "text": "的問題所謂兩個不同層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1153.wav",
        "text": "的問題能源配比跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1154.wav",
        "text": "電價政策以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1155.wav",
        "text": "到底我們要不要撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1156.wav",
        "text": "追加1,000億預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1157.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1158.wav",
        "text": "這是兩個完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1159.wav",
        "text": "不同層次的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1160.wav",
        "text": "至於民進黨黨團認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1161.wav",
        "text": "這是同一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1162.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重他們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1163.wav",
        "text": "但我們不同意我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1164.wav",
        "text": "這是兩個不同層次的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1165.wav",
        "text": "必須要切開來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1166.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1167.wav",
        "text": "剛剛院長所處理的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1168.wav",
        "text": "我們可以同意就是剛剛你所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1169.wav",
        "text": "預擬的那個協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1170.wav",
        "text": "我們可以同意我們也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1171.wav",
        "text": "已經簽了字如果真的沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1172.wav",
        "text": "辦法達成共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1173.wav",
        "text": "那接下來就由院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1174.wav",
        "text": "訂一個時間來召開談話會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1175.wav",
        "text": "我們再各自依照各自的主張立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1176.wav",
        "text": "在談話會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1177.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1178.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1179.wav",
        "text": "稍微沉靜一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1180.wav",
        "text": "我還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1181.wav",
        "text": "把今天協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1182.wav",
        "text": "的兩個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1183.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1184.wav",
        "text": "務必心平氣和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1185.wav",
        "text": "現在國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1186.wav",
        "text": "但民進黨還沒有簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1187.wav",
        "text": "現在我把這個協商結論再唸一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1188.wav",
        "text": "如果民進黨堅持的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1189.wav",
        "text": "那我們就宣布今天朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1190.wav",
        "text": "商破裂我再唸一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1191.wav",
        "text": "希望民進黨再仔細傾聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1192.wav",
        "text": "聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1193.wav",
        "text": "一各"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1194.wav",
        "text": "詢答就是要朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1195.wav",
        "text": "來處理嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1196.wav",
        "text": "不用大家都在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1197.wav",
        "text": "這個我要強烈表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1198.wav",
        "text": "我永遠我們黨團在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1199.wav",
        "text": "然後我們的意見都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1200.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法被聽見嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1201.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法被採納嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1202.wav",
        "text": "我也不要為難議事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1203.wav",
        "text": "現在是兩黨有反對927"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1204.wav",
        "text": "進行總預算詢答嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1205.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1206.wav",
        "text": "應該也都希望進行嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1207.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1208.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不落在第三點的結論上呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1209.wav",
        "text": "或者是來說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1210.wav",
        "text": "因為要解決我們的訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1211.wav",
        "text": "沒有被正視的這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1212.wav",
        "text": "要請院長來回應我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1213.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1214.wav",
        "text": "我們請高處長再補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1215.wav",
        "text": "再說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1216.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨鞭說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1217.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天是針對開議日來作協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1218.wav",
        "text": "而協商也有剛剛的初步結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1219.wav",
        "text": "至於方才大家所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1220.wav",
        "text": "加開院會處理專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1221.wav",
        "text": "或是相關預算案的訂期在什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1222.wav",
        "text": "它並沒有在今天協商的議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1223.wav",
        "text": "當中但是大家可以提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1224.wav",
        "text": "如果大家願意加就加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1225.wav",
        "text": "因為協商是大家的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1226.wav",
        "text": "要看大家有沒有想要今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1227.wav",
        "text": "就繼續討論預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1228.wav",
        "text": "還是說另外再擇期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1229.wav",
        "text": "就是問問大家的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1230.wav",
        "text": "所以我就是正在問問大家的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1231.wav",
        "text": "對於927來進行總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1232.wav",
        "text": "大家如果都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1233.wav",
        "text": "就省了院長再召集一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1234.wav",
        "text": "我再徵詢一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1235.wav",
        "text": "國民黨跟台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1236.wav",
        "text": "院長我想今天就是討論開議日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1237.wav",
        "text": "第一點的後段文字裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1238.wav",
        "text": "如果說民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1239.wav",
        "text": "團的期待是希望27號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1240.wav",
        "text": "要處理預算案的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1241.wav",
        "text": "按照議事程序來走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1242.wav",
        "text": "嘛你怎麼又說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1243.wav",
        "text": "你今天要加第三點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1244.wav",
        "text": "這個又亂掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1245.wav",
        "text": "不在今天的討論範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1246.wav",
        "text": "預算案不是專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1247.wav",
        "text": "總預算的詢答不是專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1248.wav",
        "text": "最後一項的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1249.wav",
        "text": "是完全不同的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1250.wav",
        "text": "這是不同的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1251.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1252.wav",
        "text": "的部分表達意見好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1253.wav",
        "text": "這個不在今天協商的範圍當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1254.wav",
        "text": "特別跟吳思瑤幹事長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1255.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團跟台灣民眾黨黨團已經表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1256.wav",
        "text": "27號這個部分不在討論範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1257.wav",
        "text": "那23號在討論範圍內嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1258.wav",
        "text": "23號也不在協商範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1259.wav",
        "text": "協商就是大家討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1260.wav",
        "text": "這個會期有三個預算案要詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1261.wav",
        "text": "一個是總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1262.wav",
        "text": "一個是台電追加減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1263.wav",
        "text": "一個是前瞻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1264.wav",
        "text": "我們完全尊重吳思瑤幹事長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1265.wav",
        "text": "洪委員如果是意見一致的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1266.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1267.wav",
        "text": "我完全尊重吳思瑤幹事長的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1268.wav",
        "text": "請洪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1269.wav",
        "text": "剛剛如果大家是要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1270.wav",
        "text": "不在今天的討論範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1271.wav",
        "text": "我們今天討論的主題範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1272.wav",
        "text": "如果要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1273.wav",
        "text": "不在今天的主題範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1274.wav",
        "text": "就不要討論的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1275.wav",
        "text": "23號也不在啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1276.wav",
        "text": "那是不是也不該列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1277.wav",
        "text": "我們就求一個邏輯的一致性嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1278.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團剛剛所有的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1279.wav",
        "text": "就是求一個邏輯的一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1280.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1281.wav",
        "text": "洪委員我完全尊重您的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1282.wav",
        "text": "就是邏輯要一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1283.wav",
        "text": "很抱歉各位黨團幹部今天我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1284.wav",
        "text": "等一下院長我有臨時動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1285.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1286.wav",
        "text": "我先唸一下今天朝野協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1287.wav",
        "text": "我們現在沒有辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1288.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1289.wav",
        "text": "我們協商就不成功了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1290.wav",
        "text": "各黨團明天準備開談話會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16121/1291.wav",
        "text": "那我們現在就散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/0.wav",
        "text": "我也先說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1.wav",
        "text": "NCC的人事同意權是4月30號由行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/2.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/3.wav",
        "text": "在7月12號已經付委審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/4.wav",
        "text": "考試委員的人事同意權案是5月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/5.wav",
        "text": "由總統府依程序送達立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/6.wav",
        "text": "也在6月7號就已經付委審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/7.wav",
        "text": "兩個人事同意權案都應當已經進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/8.wav",
        "text": "付委要審查的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/9.wav",
        "text": "今天民進黨黨團請求召開這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/10.wav",
        "text": "主要是在上一個會期中的5月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/11.wav",
        "text": "我們針對上會期的延會時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/12.wav",
        "text": "由韓院長召集了一次朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/13.wav",
        "text": "也依循著那一次朝野協商的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/14.wav",
        "text": "各黨都簽字同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/15.wav",
        "text": "上會期是延會到7月16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/16.wav",
        "text": "日但是為什麼訂延會到7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/17.wav",
        "text": "也就是在5月16日朝野協商的那一場會議上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/18.wav",
        "text": "大家有了一個基本的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/19.wav",
        "text": "雖然它沒有化為文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/20.wav",
        "text": "但基本上它是一個前提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/21.wav",
        "text": "才會去影響我們做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/22.wav",
        "text": "延會到7月16日的這個決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/23.wav",
        "text": "而那個協商裡頭的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/24.wav",
        "text": "我手上有著上一次5月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/25.wav",
        "text": "2點07分到傍晚7點31分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/26.wav",
        "text": "那次馬拉松式的協商紀錄那一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/27.wav",
        "text": "大家都辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/28.wav",
        "text": "\n依循著那一天的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/29.wav",
        "text": "不管是民眾黨團的黃珊珊副總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/30.wav",
        "text": "或者是國民黨團的傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/31.wav",
        "text": "都在協商的過程當中表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/32.wav",
        "text": "上會期就處理哪些議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/33.wav",
        "text": "合宜的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/34.wav",
        "text": "因為那時候還在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/35.wav",
        "text": "因此要有卓院長施政報告的期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/36.wav",
        "text": "也預留了是不是有專案報告的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/37.wav",
        "text": "所以大家綜整之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/38.wav",
        "text": "認為延會延到7月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/39.wav",
        "text": "可以處理哪些事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/40.wav",
        "text": "而沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/41.wav",
        "text": "就是人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/42.wav",
        "text": "案所以在5月16號的協商裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/43.wav",
        "text": "不管是傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/44.wav",
        "text": "或是黃珊珊副總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/45.wav",
        "text": "也都有一個共識性的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/46.wav",
        "text": "就是人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/47.wav",
        "text": "應當在臨時會再來處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/48.wav",
        "text": "雖然它沒有落為當天簽字的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/49.wav",
        "text": "但是它是連帶連動地影響了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/50.wav",
        "text": "大家共同決議延會到7月16日的一個重要前提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/51.wav",
        "text": "請求院長召集這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/52.wav",
        "text": "也就是延續上個會期末的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/53.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權就是立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/54.wav",
        "text": "我們必須各黨一起善盡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/55.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個責任來進行審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/56.wav",
        "text": "我們就希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/57.wav",
        "text": "依著5月16日協商的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/58.wav",
        "text": "用臨時會的方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/59.wav",
        "text": "而就我們的認知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/60.wav",
        "text": "當時是各黨都有這樣的一個默契在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/61.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個我們請求院長召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/62.wav",
        "text": "看是不是用臨時會來處理的一個理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/63.wav",
        "text": "\n當然第二個理由我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/64.wav",
        "text": "再次強調人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/65.wav",
        "text": "不管是行政機關的NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/66.wav",
        "text": "乃至於憲政機關的考試院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/67.wav",
        "text": "都是立法院應當善盡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/68.wav",
        "text": "憲法憲政機關的忠誠義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/69.wav",
        "text": "各黨都應當一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/70.wav",
        "text": "透過審查來作出同意或不同意的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/71.wav",
        "text": "所以我們都共同有責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/72.wav",
        "text": "當然民進黨團作為執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/73.wav",
        "text": "我們也更急切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/74.wav",
        "text": "也擔憂NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/75.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有辦法在法定期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/76.wav",
        "text": "7月31日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/77.wav",
        "text": "其實也已經delay了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/78.wav",
        "text": "啦考委如果沒有辦法在8月31日前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/79.wav",
        "text": "那勢必會連帶影響兩個機關的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/80.wav",
        "text": "對於民生對於通訊相關的管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/81.wav",
        "text": "及媒體專業的管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/82.wav",
        "text": "乃至於考試院對於國家考試的舉辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/83.wav",
        "text": "這都會造成一定程度的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/84.wav",
        "text": "也對人民的權利造成了一定程度的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/85.wav",
        "text": "所以站在民進黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/86.wav",
        "text": "我們還是希望大家共同找出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/87.wav",
        "text": "合宜的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/88.wav",
        "text": "合宜的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/89.wav",
        "text": "趕快來行使人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/90.wav",
        "text": "再次謝謝院長的召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/91.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝各黨黨鞭今天一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/92.wav",
        "text": "我們聽取大家共同的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/93.wav",
        "text": "一起來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/94.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員（幹事長）的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/95.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請國民黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/96.wav",
        "text": "然後民眾黨團請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/97.wav",
        "text": "感謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/98.wav",
        "text": "雖然是休會期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/99.wav",
        "text": "但我們休會不休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/100.wav",
        "text": "我相信各委員也都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/101.wav",
        "text": "或者是之前希望的地方考察會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/102.wav",
        "text": "勘等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/103.wav",
        "text": "我們都有做陸續的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/104.wav",
        "text": "就連行政院長卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/105.wav",
        "text": "明天也會到本席的選區去視察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/106.wav",
        "text": "我已經爭取非常久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/107.wav",
        "text": "終於水落石出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/108.wav",
        "text": "有名目的105市道第二期建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/109.wav",
        "text": "但我們不休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/110.wav",
        "text": "不過真的很感謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/111.wav",
        "text": "在8月2號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/112.wav",
        "text": "接到民進黨團要求協商之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/113.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛聽了民進黨團的代表講了一席話之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/114.wav",
        "text": "我們還是聽不出民進黨的意思是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/115.wav",
        "text": "到底是要用臨時會的方式來做人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/116.wav",
        "text": "還是說下個會期正式會期來做人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/117.wav",
        "text": "我們還是不瞭解啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/118.wav",
        "text": "身為執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/119.wav",
        "text": "其實大家都已經把我們的行程給排開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/120.wav",
        "text": "今天坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/121.wav",
        "text": "那請執政黨先開誠布公講一下嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/122.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會這麼說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/123.wav",
        "text": "因為其實臨時會我們有相關的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/124.wav",
        "text": "不管是憲法或是職權行使法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/125.wav",
        "text": "都有明確規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/126.wav",
        "text": "兩個要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/127.wav",
        "text": "一遇到重大事件發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/128.wav",
        "text": "二四分之一委員以上連署要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/129.wav",
        "text": "召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/130.wav",
        "text": "\n我們之前已經開宗明義講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/131.wav",
        "text": "國民黨身為在野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/132.wav",
        "text": "我們絕對不可能幫行政部門的人事來做背書或是安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/133.wav",
        "text": "也因此我們絕對不會主動召集臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/134.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨之前也有開過記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/135.wav",
        "text": "也有宣布他們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/136.wav",
        "text": "要來召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/137.wav",
        "text": "\n以及第二個更重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/138.wav",
        "text": "我想NCC的委員是行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/139.wav",
        "text": "考試委員是我們院級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/140.wav",
        "text": "其實都重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/141.wav",
        "text": "可是它算不算是重大事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/142.wav",
        "text": "因為這個人事本來就已經可以推敲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/143.wav",
        "text": "人事到期本來就可以推算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/144.wav",
        "text": "嘛再者我覺得執政黨的委員也不用用這種大帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/145.wav",
        "text": "甚至有民進黨黨工職的人士開始在放風聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/146.wav",
        "text": "放消息說如果不通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/147.wav",
        "text": "影響到考生考試的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/148.wav",
        "text": "其實我們委員馬上就找出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/149.wav",
        "text": "國家考試很重大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/150.wav",
        "text": "但是典試委員命題委員跟閱卷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/151.wav",
        "text": "早就已經選任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/152.wav",
        "text": "並且半年前就已經籌備了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/153.wav",
        "text": "所以如果說8月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/154.wav",
        "text": "即便是正式會期來做考試委員審查的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/155.wav",
        "text": "可能都不會影響到我們今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/156.wav",
        "text": "9月到年底的國考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/157.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這應該要先說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/158.wav",
        "text": "不要給外界一個錯誤的訊息說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/159.wav",
        "text": "哇8月31號如果考試委員沒有辦法上任的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/160.wav",
        "text": "我們國考會受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/161.wav",
        "text": "我想我們有一分證據說一分話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/162.wav",
        "text": "應該要說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/163.wav",
        "text": "\n再者如果真的因為會影響到考生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/164.wav",
        "text": "那是不是某種程度上也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/165.wav",
        "text": "綁架情緒勒索"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/166.wav",
        "text": "就變成說我們立法院一定要同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/167.wav",
        "text": "即便他是不及格的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/168.wav",
        "text": "即便他是不如人意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/169.wav",
        "text": "即便他是有瑕疵的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/170.wav",
        "text": "但因為害怕會影響到全國民眾考生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/171.wav",
        "text": "所以好像立法部門也要摸著鼻子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/172.wav",
        "text": "我們也要放水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/173.wav",
        "text": "我想不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/174.wav",
        "text": "所以先說明清楚考試委員任期8月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/175.wav",
        "text": "屆滿不會影響今年到12月的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/176.wav",
        "text": "名單從5月31號送進來我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/177.wav",
        "text": "6月7號就已經付委了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/178.wav",
        "text": "立法院沒有任何的拖延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/179.wav",
        "text": "5月31號進來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/180.wav",
        "text": "最近一次的程序委員會6月7號就已經付委了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/181.wav",
        "text": "但從6月7號到7月16號會期結束之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/182.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團沒有再提出任何請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/183.wav",
        "text": "說需要來做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/184.wav",
        "text": "嘛\nNCC委員更是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/185.wav",
        "text": "關於NCC委員我們還是要釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/186.wav",
        "text": "因為本席以及黃國昌委員都利用總質詢時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/187.wav",
        "text": "質詢過行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/188.wav",
        "text": "我們說責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/189.wav",
        "text": "行政院長5月31號第一次被我們質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/190.wav",
        "text": "我問他能不能同意這4位NCC委員提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/191.wav",
        "text": "他說他不知情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/192.wav",
        "text": "再來他說會在最短時間內重新提出名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/193.wav",
        "text": "所以既然行政部門院長已經在總質詢的會場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/194.wav",
        "text": "告訴我們會再重新提出名單了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/195.wav",
        "text": "我們當然不可能讓原本有的4個名單進入到付委審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/196.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以沒有過程序委員會是因為這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/197.wav",
        "text": "而卓榮泰院長一直沒有提出新的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/198.wav",
        "text": "直到7月9號黃國昌委員一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/199.wav",
        "text": "來請教卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/200.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰院長才勉為其難說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/201.wav",
        "text": "他願意為4個名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/202.wav",
        "text": "我們在最近一次的7月12號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/203.wav",
        "text": "──3天的院會我們就讓它付委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/204.wav",
        "text": "所以立法部門從頭到尾沒有延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/205.wav",
        "text": "行政部門所提出人事的相關審查時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/206.wav",
        "text": "都是因為行政部門自己的延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/207.wav",
        "text": "宕更何況行政部門在這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/208.wav",
        "text": "一直用媒體來放話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/209.wav",
        "text": "講NCC委員不通過的話iPhone不能買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/210.wav",
        "text": "有這個道理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/211.wav",
        "text": "我說實在話資訊要講得清清楚楚明明白白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/212.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員通不通過跟iPhone沒有直接關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/213.wav",
        "text": "跟所有電信相關的產品原本有的審查制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/214.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/215.wav",
        "text": "也都可以用相關行政來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/216.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們的立場已經表達非常清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/217.wav",
        "text": "我們不可能主動提要開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/218.wav",
        "text": "而院長今天是不是要來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/219.wav",
        "text": "更超前的討論關於9月第2會期開始之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/220.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下尊重院長的裁量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/221.wav",
        "text": "但是在這一個部分我們不主動提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/222.wav",
        "text": "至於有黨團要主動提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/223.wav",
        "text": "那是黨團的一個權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/224.wav",
        "text": "我們再進一步針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/225.wav",
        "text": "如果真的有臨時會的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/226.wav",
        "text": "是要討論什麼樣的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/227.wav",
        "text": "以及討論有沒有必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/228.wav",
        "text": "還有最重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/229.wav",
        "text": "不是應該要由延宕的黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/230.wav",
        "text": "或是延宕的行政部門先向國人來道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/231.wav",
        "text": "否則我們變成都在收拾爛攤子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/232.wav",
        "text": "然後我們要加開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/233.wav",
        "text": "要來幫他們擦屁股"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/234.wav",
        "text": "幫他們來收拾後續的殘局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/235.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這對於立法部門來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/236.wav",
        "text": "所以把事情給釐清說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/237.wav",
        "text": "時間順序說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/238.wav",
        "text": "我想讓外界也一目了然知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/239.wav",
        "text": "我們在做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/240.wav",
        "text": "該做的專業審查嚴格把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/241.wav",
        "text": "我們不會因為政黨而有所移動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/242.wav",
        "text": "但是我們希望所有事情都能說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/243.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/244.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝國民黨發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/245.wav",
        "text": "已經表達非常的清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/246.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請民眾黨黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/247.wav",
        "text": "然後請民進黨團準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/248.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/249.wav",
        "text": "今天看到我們黨團協商的主題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/250.wav",
        "text": "研商第14屆考試院人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/251.wav",
        "text": "國家通訊傳播委員會人事同意權等二案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/252.wav",
        "text": "因為在休會的期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/253.wav",
        "text": "提出要研商這兩個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/254.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼時候要處理這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/255.wav",
        "text": "從開會的事由跟協商的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/256.wav",
        "text": "目前是看不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/257.wav",
        "text": "我們針對召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/258.wav",
        "text": "來處理這兩個議案的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/259.wav",
        "text": "針對這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/260.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團非常的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/261.wav",
        "text": "所以我們開了2次黨團會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/262.wav",
        "text": "全體成員大家一致的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/263.wav",
        "text": "是我們反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/264.wav",
        "text": "在月底的時候透過召開臨時會的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/265.wav",
        "text": "來處理這兩個人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/266.wav",
        "text": "\n理由是對台灣民眾黨來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/267.wav",
        "text": "不管是審查考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/268.wav",
        "text": "或NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/269.wav",
        "text": "這本來都是立法院的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/270.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/271.wav",
        "text": "但在7月初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/272.wav",
        "text": "我們就已經公開呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/273.wav",
        "text": "要趕快處理這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/274.wav",
        "text": "我們主張延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/275.wav",
        "text": "當時民主進步黨黨團是表示反對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/276.wav",
        "text": "這讓我們覺得很困惑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/277.wav",
        "text": "從考試委員考試院正副院長被提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/278.wav",
        "text": "進到立法院來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/279.wav",
        "text": "我們從來沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/280.wav",
        "text": "哪一次執政黨立院黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/281.wav",
        "text": "說這個事情很急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/282.wav",
        "text": "我們趕快來排會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/283.wav",
        "text": "甚至到7月初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/284.wav",
        "text": "很清楚地看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/285.wav",
        "text": "剩下的時間不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/286.wav",
        "text": "我們建議延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/287.wav",
        "text": "他們也反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/288.wav",
        "text": "然後等到開始休會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/289.wav",
        "text": "想利用8月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/290.wav",
        "text": "就對外放話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/291.wav",
        "text": "說一定要召開臨時會處理這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/292.wav",
        "text": "要不然立法院就違反了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/293.wav",
        "text": "我們在憲法下面的義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/294.wav",
        "text": "這對我們來講是不可承受之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/295.wav",
        "text": "也恕難接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/296.wav",
        "text": "如果按照這樣子的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/297.wav",
        "text": "那你豈不就是要趕鴨子上架嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/298.wav",
        "text": "如果8月底以前我們沒有同意通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/299.wav",
        "text": "造成所謂的考試院空轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/300.wav",
        "text": "竟然變成了在野黨的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/301.wav",
        "text": "基於這樣子的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/302.wav",
        "text": "跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/303.wav",
        "text": "兩次的黨團會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/304.wav",
        "text": "我們針對這件事情表達了意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/305.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨8位委員立場一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/306.wav",
        "text": "反對透過召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/307.wav",
        "text": "在8月底的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/308.wav",
        "text": "用趕鴨子上架的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/309.wav",
        "text": "來處理這兩樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/310.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/311.wav",
        "text": "\nNCC人事同意權的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/312.wav",
        "text": "整個過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/313.wav",
        "text": "剛剛洪孟楷委員也做了清楚的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/314.wav",
        "text": "我就不需要再贅述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/315.wav",
        "text": "\n但我們要特別提出來的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/316.wav",
        "text": "在NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/317.wav",
        "text": "三讀修正通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/318.wav",
        "text": "目前行政院卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/319.wav",
        "text": "經過了三催四請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/320.wav",
        "text": "一再拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/321.wav",
        "text": "好不容易在院會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/322.wav",
        "text": "他才願意背書的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/323.wav",
        "text": "翁柏宗主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/324.wav",
        "text": "被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/325.wav",
        "text": "他不符合NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/326.wav",
        "text": "被提名的資格跟要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/327.wav",
        "text": "這不是要不要實質審查的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/328.wav",
        "text": "而是要先符合形式的要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/329.wav",
        "text": "才有實質審查的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/330.wav",
        "text": "今天從行政院到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/331.wav",
        "text": "目前擺在檯面上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/332.wav",
        "text": "等著大家實質審查的主任委員翁柏宗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/333.wav",
        "text": "根本不符合NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/334.wav",
        "text": "三讀修正通過以後的消極要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/335.wav",
        "text": "在不符合消極要件的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/336.wav",
        "text": "請問我們要進行什麼樣的實質審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/337.wav",
        "text": "行政院該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/338.wav",
        "text": "是把這個根本不符合消極要件的翁柏宗提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/339.wav",
        "text": "撤回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/340.wav",
        "text": "重新提符合要件的NCC主委被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/341.wav",
        "text": "然後立法院進行實質審查才有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/342.wav",
        "text": "否則我們進入實質審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/343.wav",
        "text": "面對翁柏宗要說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/344.wav",
        "text": "他根本就不符合三讀通過的NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/345.wav",
        "text": "所規定的消極要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/346.wav",
        "text": "所以我們大家都投反對票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/347.wav",
        "text": "這樣有意義嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/348.wav",
        "text": "既然要進行實質審查的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/349.wav",
        "text": "我們還是希望行政院負起責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/350.wav",
        "text": "把符合資格要件的NCC主委被提名人名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/351.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/352.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/353.wav",
        "text": "我們開始進入NCC人事同意權實質審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/354.wav",
        "text": "大家才不會沒有辦法理解說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/355.wav",
        "text": "請問我們現在針對這個主任委員被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/356.wav",
        "text": "到底要實質審查什麼事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/357.wav",
        "text": "以上是針對有關於人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/358.wav",
        "text": "以及開臨時會這樣子的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/359.wav",
        "text": "大家一致的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/360.wav",
        "text": "\n如果現在大家覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/361.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院的確還有很多該做的工作沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/362.wav",
        "text": "那麼不只人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/363.wav",
        "text": "我們在7月初時就這樣講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/364.wav",
        "text": "有很多事情都沒做完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/365.wav",
        "text": "可是沒有人答應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/366.wav",
        "text": "沒關係既"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/367.wav",
        "text": "既然立法院還有這麼多的事情沒有做完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/368.wav",
        "text": "那我們就早點開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/369.wav",
        "text": "就沒有必要按照以前的往例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/370.wav",
        "text": "甚至9月底才開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/371.wav",
        "text": "我們就早點開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/372.wav",
        "text": "不就報到了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/373.wav",
        "text": "我們就第一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/374.wav",
        "text": "2日3日兩天報到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/375.wav",
        "text": "沒有必要拖到9月中9月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/376.wav",
        "text": "早點開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/377.wav",
        "text": "趕快開始工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/378.wav",
        "text": "謝謝台灣民眾黨團黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/379.wav",
        "text": "言現在請民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/380.wav",
        "text": "我本來期待今天大家不要講過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/381.wav",
        "text": "我們就好好來坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/382.wav",
        "text": "講問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/383.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員跟黃國昌委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/384.wav",
        "text": "得事實還是得還原跟釐清\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/385.wav",
        "text": "我在第一階段的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/386.wav",
        "text": "已經說了我手上拿著的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/387.wav",
        "text": "5月16日朝野協商的會議紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/388.wav",
        "text": "這是公文書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/389.wav",
        "text": "所以延會到7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/390.wav",
        "text": "是各黨同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/391.wav",
        "text": "上個會期的會期末是5月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/392.wav",
        "text": "各黨同意延會到7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/393.wav",
        "text": "沒有人反對延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/394.wav",
        "text": "且延會7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/395.wav",
        "text": "是各黨簽字同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/396.wav",
        "text": "協商結論上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/397.wav",
        "text": "也有黃國昌總召您的簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/398.wav",
        "text": "我必須把當天各黨黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/399.wav",
        "text": "在協商會議上的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/400.wav",
        "text": "如果大家不信任吳思瑤所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/401.wav",
        "text": "那我就把各黨黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/402.wav",
        "text": "在該場協商會議上的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/403.wav",
        "text": "逐字地來朗讀一下好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/404.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊副總召當天的發言是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/405.wav",
        "text": "我擷取他的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/406.wav",
        "text": "他說我們就很具體的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/407.wav",
        "text": "是民眾黨很具體的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/408.wav",
        "text": "先訂一個延會的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/409.wav",
        "text": "後面用臨時會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/410.wav",
        "text": "因為這個會期是2月1日就開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/411.wav",
        "text": "非常長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/412.wav",
        "text": "如果一直又要開到8月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/413.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨覺得可能時間太長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/414.wav",
        "text": "如果按照新的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/415.wav",
        "text": "也就是卓院長上任之後的總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/416.wav",
        "text": "再加上可能安排兩次專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/417.wav",
        "text": "會有六個禮拜的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/418.wav",
        "text": "一直到7月中了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/419.wav",
        "text": "所以民眾黨認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/420.wav",
        "text": "7月中的延會點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/421.wav",
        "text": "是一個適合的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/422.wav",
        "text": "之後再以臨時會來處理人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/423.wav",
        "text": "或有特殊需要的話的其他議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/424.wav",
        "text": "可能這樣對於各個委員的時間安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/425.wav",
        "text": "比較妥當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/426.wav",
        "text": "所以民眾黨認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/427.wav",
        "text": "如果一下子延會延到8月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/428.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這對很多委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/429.wav",
        "text": "包括國會外交的一些安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/430.wav",
        "text": "可能都沒有辦法進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/431.wav",
        "text": "所以黃珊珊副總召說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/432.wav",
        "text": "是不是就具體建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/433.wav",
        "text": "直接訂一個延會的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/434.wav",
        "text": "在7月中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/435.wav",
        "text": "這是黃珊珊副總召當天的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/436.wav",
        "text": "\n傅崐萁總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/437.wav",
        "text": "比較簡短我來簡略說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/438.wav",
        "text": "國民黨也回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/439.wav",
        "text": "剛剛民眾黨黃珊珊副總召所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/440.wav",
        "text": "如果民眾黨希望在7月中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/441.wav",
        "text": "能夠確定把時間開出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/442.wav",
        "text": "敲定延會的時間的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/443.wav",
        "text": "那國民黨現在就建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/444.wav",
        "text": "暫時延會到7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/445.wav",
        "text": "日那時候傅總召就cue了韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/446.wav",
        "text": "所以院長我們比較完整的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/447.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以暫定在7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/448.wav",
        "text": "至於剛剛柯建銘總召民進黨團所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/449.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/450.wav",
        "text": "那我也回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/451.wav",
        "text": "剛剛民眾黨已經提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/452.wav",
        "text": "就用臨時會來處理好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/453.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以這樣子請院長裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/454.wav",
        "text": "這是傅崐萁總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/455.wav",
        "text": "所以院長在5月16日那天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/456.wav",
        "text": "就依循各黨的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/457.wav",
        "text": "裁示上個會期延會到7月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/458.wav",
        "text": "所以針對延會的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/459.wav",
        "text": "不要現在還在這裡說不是事實的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/460.wav",
        "text": "當天大家共同決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/461.wav",
        "text": "延會到7月16號是三黨簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/462.wav",
        "text": "而它的共識前提就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/463.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權以臨時會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/464.wav",
        "text": "OK我在這裡沒有想要再挑起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/465.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣大家的情緒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/466.wav",
        "text": "只是大家提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/467.wav",
        "text": "我就必須還原事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/468.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我也要還原事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/469.wav",
        "text": "的是NCC的人事同意權就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/470.wav",
        "text": "對面兩個政黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/471.wav",
        "text": "你們在委員會以及在院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/472.wav",
        "text": "阻擋了8次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/473.wav",
        "text": "議事錄都可以查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/474.wav",
        "text": "就是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/475.wav",
        "text": "7月12號就是正式付委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/476.wav",
        "text": "8次的阻卻以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/477.wav",
        "text": "在7月12號正式付委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/478.wav",
        "text": "既然進入審查了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/479.wav",
        "text": "大家就應當進入審查的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/480.wav",
        "text": "跟啟動程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/481.wav",
        "text": "而不是剛剛黃國昌總召說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/482.wav",
        "text": "他對於個別的被提名人有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/483.wav",
        "text": "他就針對個別的被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/484.wav",
        "text": "要求行政院退回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/485.wav",
        "text": "已經進入審查程序了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/486.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有道理嘛院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/487.wav",
        "text": "\n好那我現在講回來今天的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/488.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/489.wav",
        "text": "是透過審查去行使你的同意或不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/490.wav",
        "text": "這是憲法規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/491.wav",
        "text": "立法院這個憲政機關的法定義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/492.wav",
        "text": "所以各位朋友不要再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/493.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/494.wav",
        "text": "這是執政黨的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/495.wav",
        "text": "不論在朝在野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/496.wav",
        "text": "我們都是立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/497.wav",
        "text": "行使憲法法定的人事同意權的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/498.wav",
        "text": "是我們共同的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/499.wav",
        "text": "剛剛孟楷說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/500.wav",
        "text": "上個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/501.wav",
        "text": "你們的考委名單送進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/502.wav",
        "text": "5月底送進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/503.wav",
        "text": "啊也沒有看到民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/504.wav",
        "text": "一直來要求呼籲趕快審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/505.wav",
        "text": "現在是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/506.wav",
        "text": "哪個議案哪個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/507.wav",
        "text": "哪個人事同意權進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/508.wav",
        "text": "民進黨要照起工一天三餐似的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/509.wav",
        "text": "早上拜託中午拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/510.wav",
        "text": "晚上拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/511.wav",
        "text": "拜託大家來審查一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/512.wav",
        "text": "沒必要這樣嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/513.wav",
        "text": "這是我們共同的責任啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/514.wav",
        "text": "任何一個法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/515.wav",
        "text": "任何一個預算案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/516.wav",
        "text": "任何一個人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/517.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/518.wav",
        "text": "就是我們共同的職責審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/519.wav",
        "text": "不審審了能不能過或是審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/520.wav",
        "text": "了要怎麼樣調修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/521.wav",
        "text": "大家取得共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/522.wav",
        "text": "不是一定要民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/523.wav",
        "text": "一直拜託一直拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/524.wav",
        "text": "然後我說真的孟楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/525.wav",
        "text": "我們每天在媒體上拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/526.wav",
        "text": "每天碰到你也拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/527.wav",
        "text": "你們就真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/528.wav",
        "text": "所以這不是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/529.wav",
        "text": "有沒有用力拜託的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/530.wav",
        "text": "這是朝野共同的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/531.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個進入人事同意權的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/532.wav",
        "text": "乃至於透過審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/533.wav",
        "text": "去行使同意或不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/534.wav",
        "text": "更不是所謂什麼放水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/535.wav",
        "text": "我相信大家基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/536.wav",
        "text": "立法委員的專業職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/537.wav",
        "text": "都會認真的來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/538.wav",
        "text": "這幾位被提名人的適任與否"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/539.wav",
        "text": "絕對不是進入審查程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/540.wav",
        "text": "就是在放水或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/541.wav",
        "text": "要求你們背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/542.wav",
        "text": "沒有這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/543.wav",
        "text": "沒有人在情勒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/544.wav",
        "text": "我們只是要求履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/545.wav",
        "text": "我們自己立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/546.wav",
        "text": "領人民薪水就該做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/547.wav",
        "text": "就如此而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/548.wav",
        "text": "這是法定義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/549.wav",
        "text": "這個不是誰在情勒誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/550.wav",
        "text": "也不是誰要每天拜託誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/551.wav",
        "text": "大家才願意坐下來進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/552.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一項我想要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/553.wav",
        "text": "的是很多事情不要倒果為因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/554.wav",
        "text": "考試院他們針對下半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/555.wav",
        "text": "因為每一個國家考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/556.wav",
        "text": "都要前6個月來啟動準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/557.wav",
        "text": "所以下半年的考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/558.wav",
        "text": "有4項包括初等考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/559.wav",
        "text": "包括醫事人員這一類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/560.wav",
        "text": "有醫師中醫師牙醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/561.wav",
        "text": "護理師社工師營養師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/562.wav",
        "text": "然後還有一類是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/563.wav",
        "text": "關務考試身障特考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/564.wav",
        "text": "國軍上校以上的轉任考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/565.wav",
        "text": "這個是9到12"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/566.wav",
        "text": "要進行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/567.wav",
        "text": "楷委員說這些下半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/568.wav",
        "text": "的都已經進入程序了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/569.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼不行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/570.wav",
        "text": "就辦不了考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/571.wav",
        "text": "因為下半年9到12月的考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/572.wav",
        "text": "是上半年就啟動他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/573.wav",
        "text": "叫做請辦作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/574.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以他們本來就是要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/575.wav",
        "text": "但是如果我們沒有想方設法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/576.wav",
        "text": "儘可能在8月底完成考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/577.wav",
        "text": "委員的人事同意權的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/578.wav",
        "text": "影響的是明年度的國家考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/579.wav",
        "text": "而每一個國家考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/580.wav",
        "text": "依據的都是典試法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/581.wav",
        "text": "依照典試法就是考選部要報請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/582.wav",
        "text": "考試院去核定典試委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/583.wav",
        "text": "然後典試委員長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/584.wav",
        "text": "再由考試院院長來提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/585.wav",
        "text": "然後進入它的這些程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/586.wav",
        "text": "也必須未雨綢繆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/587.wav",
        "text": "啦如果人事同意權沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/588.wav",
        "text": "儘早來通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/589.wav",
        "text": "他們當然也要為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/590.wav",
        "text": "明年上半年的考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/591.wav",
        "text": "及早去做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/592.wav",
        "text": "可是這都逾越了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/593.wav",
        "text": "某種程度權宜之計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/594.wav",
        "text": "是沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/595.wav",
        "text": "照著典試法那麼嚴謹的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/596.wav",
        "text": "我們不就是逼人家國家考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/597.wav",
        "text": "未來的適法性可能受到挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/598.wav",
        "text": "那影響的是考生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/599.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/600.wav",
        "text": "考試院沒有行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/601.wav",
        "text": "的話會連帶影響的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/602.wav",
        "text": "這是事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/603.wav",
        "text": "不是誰在恐嚇誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/604.wav",
        "text": "不是誰在情勒誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/605.wav",
        "text": "不是誰在對媒體放話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/606.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/607.wav",
        "text": "我們人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/608.wav",
        "text": "都不需要訂定一個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/609.wav",
        "text": "定期程了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/610.wav",
        "text": "如果各位委員認為說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/611.wav",
        "text": "沒有行使也沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/612.wav",
        "text": "你們自己想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/613.wav",
        "text": "啊不要來情勒不要來放話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/614.wav",
        "text": "\n民進黨在上個會期末"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/615.wav",
        "text": "就已經說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/616.wav",
        "text": "過也依循我剛剛唸給大家聽的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/617.wav",
        "text": "不是只有民進黨訴求說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/618.wav",
        "text": "用臨時會來處理人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/619.wav",
        "text": "因為現在民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/620.wav",
        "text": "不是國會多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/621.wav",
        "text": "以前確實我們是國會多數的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/622.wav",
        "text": "我們可以自己提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/623.wav",
        "text": "直接在院會全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/624.wav",
        "text": "直接表決我們有信心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/625.wav",
        "text": "因為我們過去是國會多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/626.wav",
        "text": "但是現在國會多數是藍白兩黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/627.wav",
        "text": "所以要開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/628.wav",
        "text": "不是民進黨單一政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/629.wav",
        "text": "主張就可以開得成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/630.wav",
        "text": "所以這就是為什麼我們需要院長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/631.wav",
        "text": "召開協商大家坐下來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/632.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們的立場還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/633.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠以臨時會來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/634.wav",
        "text": "這樣當然是可以避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/635.wav",
        "text": "兩個機關的空窗期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/636.wav",
        "text": "把它縮短影響變小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/637.wav",
        "text": "至於能不能開得成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/638.wav",
        "text": "這當然就要看大家的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/639.wav",
        "text": "所以這需要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/640.wav",
        "text": "也需要院長來調和鼎鼐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/641.wav",
        "text": "當民進黨想要跟大家坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/642.wav",
        "text": "好好的朝野對話的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/643.wav",
        "text": "請大家收到我們的誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/644.wav",
        "text": "收到我們對於各個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/645.wav",
        "text": "合作的這份努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/646.wav",
        "text": "民進黨如果直接提案連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/647.wav",
        "text": "你們民進黨就是老大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/648.wav",
        "text": "啦不聽其他政黨的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/649.wav",
        "text": "等等不用這樣我們都不用這樣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/650.wav",
        "text": "好嗎我們都不用這樣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/651.wav",
        "text": "所以這兩個人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/652.wav",
        "text": "怎麼處理什麼時間點處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/653.wav",
        "text": "剛剛黃國昌總召也提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/654.wav",
        "text": "如果對於臨時會兩黨持保留的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/655.wav",
        "text": "有其他的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/656.wav",
        "text": "我們的目標就是讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/657.wav",
        "text": "減短造成憲政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/658.wav",
        "text": "或是NCC空轉的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/659.wav",
        "text": "我們就一起做這個努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/660.wav",
        "text": "\n院長你比較辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/661.wav",
        "text": "要麻煩您做出一個好的定奪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/662.wav",
        "text": "就會宣告一下我們的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/663.wav",
        "text": "\n請接收到民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/664.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/665.wav",
        "text": "我想針對要召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/666.wav",
        "text": "固然剛剛思瑤講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/667.wav",
        "text": "我們在過去有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/668.wav",
        "text": "要用臨時會來處理人事同意權的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/669.wav",
        "text": "但是各位要想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/670.wav",
        "text": "現在面臨一個非常重大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/671.wav",
        "text": "一個很重大的爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/672.wav",
        "text": "同意權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/673.wav",
        "text": "你要適用舊法還是新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/674.wav",
        "text": "因為我們新法已經三讀通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/675.wav",
        "text": "而且也經過總統公布了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/676.wav",
        "text": "這是現行有效的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/677.wav",
        "text": "所以就法來說我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/678.wav",
        "text": "等於沒有法源依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/679.wav",
        "text": "來做行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/680.wav",
        "text": "為什麼說沒有法源依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/681.wav",
        "text": "因為對於我們三讀通過的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/682.wav",
        "text": "你們聲請了大法官的憲法訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/683.wav",
        "text": "不管是總統府啦監察院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/684.wav",
        "text": "啦或者民進黨立法院黨團的連署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/685.wav",
        "text": "大法官竟然做出暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/686.wav",
        "text": "做出處分做出裁定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/687.wav",
        "text": "暫時停止適用新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/688.wav",
        "text": "所以目前我們整個對於人事同意權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/689.wav",
        "text": "可以說沒有法源依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/690.wav",
        "text": "啊舊法根本不可能適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/691.wav",
        "text": "因為新法已經經過立法院三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/692.wav",
        "text": "只是憲法法庭把它裁定暫時適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/693.wav",
        "text": "不是說它無效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/694.wav",
        "text": "它仍然是現行有效的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/695.wav",
        "text": "所以在這種情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/696.wav",
        "text": "是誰造成我們法律的空窗期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/697.wav",
        "text": "是誰造成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/698.wav",
        "text": "或者民進黨黨團你們要負最大的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/699.wav",
        "text": "甚至大法官當時做出暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/700.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有考量到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/701.wav",
        "text": "會有這樣一個法律空窗期的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/702.wav",
        "text": "今天要召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/703.wav",
        "text": "就面臨到這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/704.wav",
        "text": "你到底要適用哪一個法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/705.wav",
        "text": "做相關的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/706.wav",
        "text": "其實執政黨要負最大責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/707.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/708.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們接下來請民眾黨發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/709.wav",
        "text": "之後我請問一下民進黨還要三次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/710.wav",
        "text": "要喔我們請民眾黨二次發言謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/711.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/712.wav",
        "text": "我其實一直覺得黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/713.wav",
        "text": "就是大家把自己的立場講清楚了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/714.wav",
        "text": "有共識就按照共識進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/715.wav",
        "text": "而沒有共識就按照議事規則處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/716.wav",
        "text": "我其實不太希望把黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/717.wav",
        "text": "當成是一個好像在政治攻防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/718.wav",
        "text": "甚至政治攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/719.wav",
        "text": "甚至人身攻擊的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/720.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣真的不是一個很健康的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/721.wav",
        "text": "對台灣民眾黨來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/722.wav",
        "text": "那個沒有什麼拜不拜託的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/723.wav",
        "text": "就考試委員的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/724.wav",
        "text": "那沒有拜不拜託的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/725.wav",
        "text": "有哪一次提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/726.wav",
        "text": "說要開始進行全院委員會的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/727.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/728.wav",
        "text": "從來都沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/729.wav",
        "text": "那第二個事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/730.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊副總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/731.wav",
        "text": "他今天因為有其他的公務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/732.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法來參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/733.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得拿著他那個時候在黨團協商的一段發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/734.wav",
        "text": "要給台灣民眾黨戴一個這麼重的帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/735.wav",
        "text": "是無法承受之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/736.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/737.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/738.wav",
        "text": "日講的那段話就基於善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/739.wav",
        "text": "啊事情沒辦法處理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/740.wav",
        "text": "那就先延到7月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/741.wav",
        "text": "但我們提出呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/742.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠繼續延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/743.wav",
        "text": "是7月初的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/744.wav",
        "text": "這個有很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/745.wav",
        "text": "公開資訊的記載"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/746.wav",
        "text": "我們到7月初的時候就知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/747.wav",
        "text": "事情沒有辦法處理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/748.wav",
        "text": "我還公開地呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/749.wav",
        "text": "說考試委員同意權的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/750.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員同意權的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/751.wav",
        "text": "處理不完嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/752.wav",
        "text": "處理不完我們就延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/753.wav",
        "text": "繼續處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/754.wav",
        "text": "當初反對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/755.wav",
        "text": "就是民主進步黨啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/756.wav",
        "text": "當時我沒有聽到民主進步黨說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/757.wav",
        "text": "這個審查人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/758.wav",
        "text": "是我們立法院作為憲政機關的憲法職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/759.wav",
        "text": "我們當然應該要什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/760.wav",
        "text": "趕快繼續延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/761.wav",
        "text": "來處理人事同意權的問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/762.wav",
        "text": "NCC不能空轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/763.wav",
        "text": "考試院不能空轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/764.wav",
        "text": "所以民主進步黨絕對支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/765.wav",
        "text": "延會來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/766.wav",
        "text": "考試委員跟NCC的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/767.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/768.wav",
        "text": "他們那時候直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/769.wav",
        "text": "說的就是他們反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/770.wav",
        "text": "\n那到底是誰不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/771.wav",
        "text": "履行憲政機關的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/772.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨扣一個這麼大的帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/773.wav",
        "text": "\n我再度重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/774.wav",
        "text": "今天珊珊委員沒有在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/775.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不能沒有人幫他講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/776.wav",
        "text": "要不然欺負一個不在現場的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/777.wav",
        "text": "我覺得並不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/778.wav",
        "text": "他當初就是善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/779.wav",
        "text": "到5月16日的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/780.wav",
        "text": "事情處理不完我們就延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/781.wav",
        "text": "到7月16日嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/782.wav",
        "text": "但我剛剛在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/783.wav",
        "text": "就不是5月的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/784.wav",
        "text": "7月初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/785.wav",
        "text": "我們看整個立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/786.wav",
        "text": "院會進行的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/787.wav",
        "text": "院會進行的進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/788.wav",
        "text": "延宕了非常多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/789.wav",
        "text": "我們7月初的時候就說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/790.wav",
        "text": "那你說審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/791.wav",
        "text": "是我們立法院共同的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/792.wav",
        "text": "是沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/793.wav",
        "text": "所以我們那時候才會提出這樣子的呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/794.wav",
        "text": "能不能夠同意這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/795.wav",
        "text": "那是另外一回事喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/796.wav",
        "text": "能不能夠同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/797.wav",
        "text": "是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/798.wav",
        "text": "否則的話我們不管什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/799.wav",
        "text": "審人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/800.wav",
        "text": "不管他適不適任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/801.wav",
        "text": "我們如果不同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/802.wav",
        "text": "導致沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/803.wav",
        "text": "人出任那個位置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/804.wav",
        "text": "造成了憲政機關的空轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/805.wav",
        "text": "那豈不是準備要把立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/806.wav",
        "text": "當成立法局嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/807.wav",
        "text": "\n但我還是要拉回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/808.wav",
        "text": "其實今天來這邊我真的不想講這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/809.wav",
        "text": "因為有很多全部都是公開資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/810.wav",
        "text": "每一個公民心裡都有一把尺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/811.wav",
        "text": "都可以去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/812.wav",
        "text": "客觀的評斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/813.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都可以有自己的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/814.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是要再度重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/815.wav",
        "text": "我不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/816.wav",
        "text": "把黨團協商的現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/817.wav",
        "text": "變成是在進行政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/818.wav",
        "text": "攻防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/819.wav",
        "text": "你的案子是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/820.wav",
        "text": "你想要的案子是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/821.wav",
        "text": "你提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/822.wav",
        "text": "那看其他的黨團是不是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/823.wav",
        "text": "大家同意有共識就很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/824.wav",
        "text": "那難不成你要逼人家同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/825.wav",
        "text": "每一個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/826.wav",
        "text": "有每一個黨團各自不同的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/827.wav",
        "text": "不同的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/828.wav",
        "text": "各自對選民對社會負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/829.wav",
        "text": "\n最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/830.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/831.wav",
        "text": "這個是黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/832.wav",
        "text": "召開過兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/833.wav",
        "text": "委員的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/834.wav",
        "text": "8位委員全體一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/835.wav",
        "text": "做了這樣子的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/836.wav",
        "text": "所以我必須要負責任的跟院長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/837.wav",
        "text": "反對召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/838.wav",
        "text": "是我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/839.wav",
        "text": "但是我們贊成在9月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/840.wav",
        "text": "提早開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/841.wav",
        "text": "如果是要在2號3號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/842.wav",
        "text": "報到的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/843.wav",
        "text": "9月6號星期五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/844.wav",
        "text": "就來開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/845.wav",
        "text": "趕快把立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/846.wav",
        "text": "中不僅僅是人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/847.wav",
        "text": "還有一堆延宕的改革法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/848.wav",
        "text": "跳票很多年的改革法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/849.wav",
        "text": "到了委員會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/850.wav",
        "text": "可能都缺臨門一腳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/851.wav",
        "text": "開完委員會以後進入院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/852.wav",
        "text": "就可以完成二讀跟三讀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/853.wav",
        "text": "那個是跳票了好幾年的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/854.wav",
        "text": "也是我們很關心的改革法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/855.wav",
        "text": "要趕快積極地來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/856.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/857.wav",
        "text": "我特別開始懷念柯總召了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/858.wav",
        "text": "他今天不在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/859.wav",
        "text": "好像有酸辣湯少了胡椒的感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/860.wav",
        "text": "啊\n現在我們請民進黨第3次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/861.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/862.wav",
        "text": "剛剛黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/863.wav",
        "text": "說在5月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/864.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊副總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/865.wav",
        "text": "的那段話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/866.wav",
        "text": "是當時的善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/867.wav",
        "text": "當時各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/868.wav",
        "text": "其實在那次的協商裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/869.wav",
        "text": "對於怎麼安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/870.wav",
        "text": "延會的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/871.wav",
        "text": "跟人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/872.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼來處理其實都表達了善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/873.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得我們沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/874.wav",
        "text": "要去否定當時是出於善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/875.wav",
        "text": "思瑤委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/876.wav",
        "text": "當時傅崐萁總召也在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/877.wav",
        "text": "做了相關的表示其實也是善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/878.wav",
        "text": "所以也因為大家都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/879.wav",
        "text": "有那樣子的善意我說那個善意是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/880.wav",
        "text": "基於大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/881.wav",
        "text": "有一個希望尋求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/882.wav",
        "text": "共識的意念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/883.wav",
        "text": "在那個意念之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/884.wav",
        "text": "其實大家會有一個共同的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/885.wav",
        "text": "延會到7月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/886.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/887.wav",
        "text": "再來召開臨時會處理人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/888.wav",
        "text": "大家其實當時都有這個善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/889.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們都不用互相去否定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/890.wav",
        "text": "那也因為當時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/891.wav",
        "text": "這個善意所以我們作為一個執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/892.wav",
        "text": "我們當然還是會期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/893.wav",
        "text": "能夠在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/894.wav",
        "text": "8月接下來的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/895.wav",
        "text": "裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/896.wav",
        "text": "召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/897.wav",
        "text": "來處理人事同意權的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/898.wav",
        "text": "我們站在一個執政黨的立場上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/899.wav",
        "text": "我們也接收到在5月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/900.wav",
        "text": "大家所表示的善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/901.wav",
        "text": "所以我們當然還是會有這個期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/902.wav",
        "text": "到底民進黨有沒有想要召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/903.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊可以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/904.wav",
        "text": "我們還是有這樣的期待的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/905.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/906.wav",
        "text": "已經不是單獨過半的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/907.wav",
        "text": "國會最大黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/908.wav",
        "text": "所以到底這個臨時會開跟不開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/909.wav",
        "text": "現在也不是民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/910.wav",
        "text": "可以自己單獨決定的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/911.wav",
        "text": "可是我們還是要說我們有這個期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/912.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/913.wav",
        "text": "都是因為你們提請釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/914.wav",
        "text": "所以造成這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/915.wav",
        "text": "等等的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/916.wav",
        "text": "我自己真的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/917.wav",
        "text": "假設我們可以再一次都共同有善意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/918.wav",
        "text": "真的可以看向未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/919.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不用一直再追究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/920.wav",
        "text": "過去的那些事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/921.wav",
        "text": "因為很多追究其實有些真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/922.wav",
        "text": "也不一定那麼有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/923.wav",
        "text": "就是說當今天大法官都做了暫時處分的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/924.wav",
        "text": "就代表這有違憲的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/925.wav",
        "text": "有違憲的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/926.wav",
        "text": "要暫時處分的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/927.wav",
        "text": "有違憲疑慮的法律就直接的適用嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/928.wav",
        "text": "一個法治國家來說是一件好事嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/929.wav",
        "text": "所以我要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/930.wav",
        "text": "對這個我們都不想再去做爭辯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/931.wav",
        "text": "可是我們比較希望是看向未來的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/932.wav",
        "text": "希望大家能夠還有善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/933.wav",
        "text": "希望接下來處理這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/934.wav",
        "text": "兩個人事同意權一樣能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/935.wav",
        "text": "但是就民進黨來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/936.wav",
        "text": "召開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/937.wav",
        "text": "來處理人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/938.wav",
        "text": "我們在國會的席次結構來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/939.wav",
        "text": "當然要尊重兩個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/940.wav",
        "text": "這個我們當然一清二楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/941.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這部分還是請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/942.wav",
        "text": "可以來做相關的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/943.wav",
        "text": "我們繼續能夠保持善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/944.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們國民黨黨團要求第3次發言我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/945.wav",
        "text": "請洪書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/946.wav",
        "text": "感謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/947.wav",
        "text": "今天協商我想我們要有效率也要有結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/948.wav",
        "text": "本來我不想提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/949.wav",
        "text": "但是既然民進黨的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/950.wav",
        "text": "就已經把5月16號的這些協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/951.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁總召他今天沒有到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/952.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還是要還原一下現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/953.wav",
        "text": "以及我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/954.wav",
        "text": "第一次聽到民進黨的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/955.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾又是善意又是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/956.wav",
        "text": "期待又是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/957.wav",
        "text": "從5月16日到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/958.wav",
        "text": "到底民進黨有沒有尊重在野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/959.wav",
        "text": "5月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/960.wav",
        "text": "剛剛民進黨的代表一直講這個時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/961.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個時間點很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/962.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的代表好像忘了過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/963.wav",
        "text": "這2個月你們怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/964.wav",
        "text": "在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/965.wav",
        "text": "發起了9波暴力的衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/966.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/967.wav",
        "text": "有做什麼樣的杯葛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/968.wav",
        "text": "然後三讀通過的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/969.wav",
        "text": "你們提起釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/970.wav",
        "text": "然後在憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/971.wav",
        "text": "針鋒相對政治操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/972.wav",
        "text": "好像都忘記了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/973.wav",
        "text": "\n5月16日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/974.wav",
        "text": "當時為什麼會有這樣的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/975.wav",
        "text": "君子協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/976.wav",
        "text": "或是君子默契"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/977.wav",
        "text": "是在於我們認為大家可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/978.wav",
        "text": "坐下來後續延會到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/979.wav",
        "text": "7月16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/980.wav",
        "text": "日大家回到那個時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/981.wav",
        "text": "5月16日的時候我們在講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/982.wav",
        "text": "延會到7月16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/983.wav",
        "text": "日而後續的院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/984.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰院長上臺報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/985.wav",
        "text": "後續的院會我們針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/986.wav",
        "text": "新任的政府進行總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/987.wav",
        "text": "約有10次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/988.wav",
        "text": "10次完了之後還保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/989.wav",
        "text": "兩三次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/990.wav",
        "text": "可以進行相關法案處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/991.wav",
        "text": "如果說真的到7月16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/992.wav",
        "text": "日沒有辦法處理完的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/993.wav",
        "text": "也許我們在8月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/994.wav",
        "text": "人事的部分再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/995.wav",
        "text": "第一前提大家君子協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/996.wav",
        "text": "嘛每一次開會大家照品照行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/997.wav",
        "text": "比人頭而不是比拳頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/998.wav",
        "text": "才講完不到12個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/999.wav",
        "text": "5月16日的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1000.wav",
        "text": "出來之後5月17"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1001.wav",
        "text": "啊9波衝突有哪一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1002.wav",
        "text": "是國民黨先發動嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1003.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1004.wav",
        "text": "我們講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1005.wav",
        "text": "善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1006.wav",
        "text": "5月16日我們釋出了善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1007.wav",
        "text": "結果不到12個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1008.wav",
        "text": "5月17日民進黨怎麼樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1009.wav",
        "text": "然後之後的4次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1010.wav",
        "text": "這個過程我們都不要贅述了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1011.wav",
        "text": "但我講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1012.wav",
        "text": "這個是單方面當一個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1013.wav",
        "text": "它沒有尊重其他在野黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1014.wav",
        "text": "或是說當我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1015.wav",
        "text": "大家可以坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1016.wav",
        "text": "那沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1017.wav",
        "text": "拉回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1018.wav",
        "text": "剛剛幾個癥結點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1019.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還是要重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1020.wav",
        "text": "一直講說我們在程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1021.wav",
        "text": "序委員會有8次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1022.wav",
        "text": "那個前提也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1023.wav",
        "text": "啊就是行政院長到底要不要為他的人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1024.wav",
        "text": "來背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1025.wav",
        "text": "這4個委員我們那時候一直強調的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1026.wav",
        "text": "行政院長的提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1027.wav",
        "text": "他願意來背書的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1028.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候行政院長同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1029.wav",
        "text": "我們就來付委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1030.wav",
        "text": "所以8次的程序委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1031.wav",
        "text": "沒有讓這4位陳建仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1032.wav",
        "text": "前院長提名的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1033.wav",
        "text": "進入到付委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1034.wav",
        "text": "那是因為我們認為卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1035.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰院長自己也講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1036.wav",
        "text": "他不知道這個提名的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1037.wav",
        "text": "那我們要求卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1038.wav",
        "text": "確認這4個委員的資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1039.wav",
        "text": "當了行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1040.wav",
        "text": "可不可以有點肩膀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1041.wav",
        "text": "你不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1042.wav",
        "text": "為這4個委員背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1043.wav",
        "text": "然後一定要在野陣營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1044.wav",
        "text": "一定要立法院趕快來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1045.wav",
        "text": "那不是本末倒置嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1046.wav",
        "text": "我必須要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1047.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1048.wav",
        "text": "討論的是要不要開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1049.wav",
        "text": "我也認為如果臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1050.wav",
        "text": "只是現在民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1051.wav",
        "text": "又要再提5月16日但是忽略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1052.wav",
        "text": "過去這2個月的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1053.wav",
        "text": "我們在野陣營都要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1054.wav",
        "text": "來開臨時會不管怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1055.wav",
        "text": "我們要加開這很像什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1056.wav",
        "text": "很像搶了銀行的搶匪之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1057.wav",
        "text": "我當初要領的100塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1058.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼還不給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1059.wav",
        "text": "莫名其妙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1060.wav",
        "text": "還是要確認一下幾個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1061.wav",
        "text": "第一審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1062.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1063.wav",
        "text": "只要有開會的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1064.wav",
        "text": "能夠有審查的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1065.wav",
        "text": "我們身為立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1066.wav",
        "text": "一定會行使審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1067.wav",
        "text": "所以不會延宕審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1068.wav",
        "text": "開會的時候只要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1069.wav",
        "text": "排入議程能夠審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1070.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1071.wav",
        "text": "問好問滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1072.wav",
        "text": "但是審查權不代表同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1073.wav",
        "text": "所以審查完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1074.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個名單是不符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1075.wav",
        "text": "人民標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1076.wav",
        "text": "而我們沒有給他同意的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1077.wav",
        "text": "這也是立法委員的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1078.wav",
        "text": "請不要現在用這樣子一個方式說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1079.wav",
        "text": "如果他在到期的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1080.wav",
        "text": "沒有上任的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1081.wav",
        "text": "延宕空轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1082.wav",
        "text": "人民權益受損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1083.wav",
        "text": "提出什麼樣的人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1084.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1085.wav",
        "text": "沒有這回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1086.wav",
        "text": "甚至我們現在也把考選部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1087.wav",
        "text": "歷年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1088.wav",
        "text": "針對明年的公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1089.wav",
        "text": "公職考試日期的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1090.wav",
        "text": "考選部在每年8月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1091.wav",
        "text": "中旬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1092.wav",
        "text": "就會確定隔年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1093.wav",
        "text": "的考試日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1094.wav",
        "text": "計畫規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1095.wav",
        "text": "換言之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1096.wav",
        "text": "過去7年都是在8月中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1097.wav",
        "text": "包括8月15日8月13日8月12"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1098.wav",
        "text": "日就已經把明年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1099.wav",
        "text": "一整年的國家考試計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1100.wav",
        "text": "公布出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1101.wav",
        "text": "也確定出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1102.wav",
        "text": "如果在8月31到期之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1103.wav",
        "text": "他們也會把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1104.wav",
        "text": "明年的國家考試日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1105.wav",
        "text": "都給規劃出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1106.wav",
        "text": "不會有特例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1107.wav",
        "text": "不會有延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1108.wav",
        "text": "換言之不會影響到我們國家人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1109.wav",
        "text": "要去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1110.wav",
        "text": "公職考試的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1111.wav",
        "text": "至少明年不會影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1112.wav",
        "text": "如果我們在9月的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1113.wav",
        "text": "正式會期再來做考試委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1114.wav",
        "text": "一個審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1115.wav",
        "text": "即便假設到9月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1116.wav",
        "text": "新任考試委員才通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1117.wav",
        "text": "還不一定全額通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1118.wav",
        "text": "但是我講的是審查完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1119.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權真的通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1120.wav",
        "text": "上任的新任考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1121.wav",
        "text": "他們會做的也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1122.wav",
        "text": "後年的考試規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1123.wav",
        "text": "的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1124.wav",
        "text": "所以並不會影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1125.wav",
        "text": "包括明年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1126.wav",
        "text": "國家考試規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1127.wav",
        "text": "基本上也不受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1128.wav",
        "text": "這一點我必須要合先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1129.wav",
        "text": "這樣子才能夠讓所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1130.wav",
        "text": "看直播以及瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1131.wav",
        "text": "關心我們立法院的人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1132.wav",
        "text": "知道立法院不是立法局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1133.wav",
        "text": "知道針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1134.wav",
        "text": "行政院送出來的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1135.wav",
        "text": "或者是考試院送出來的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1136.wav",
        "text": "立法院有審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1137.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會用審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1138.wav",
        "text": "嚴格把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1139.wav",
        "text": "但是審查權不代表同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1140.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候用審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1141.wav",
        "text": "那就是開會的時候排入議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1142.wav",
        "text": "我們就用審查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1143.wav",
        "text": "後續我們也一定不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1144.wav",
        "text": "延宕地來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1145.wav",
        "text": "好以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1146.wav",
        "text": "要三次發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1147.wav",
        "text": "請三次發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1148.wav",
        "text": "不用我其實沒有要講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1149.wav",
        "text": "我只是跟院長講我覺得大家該說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1150.wav",
        "text": "都說完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1151.wav",
        "text": "接下來該怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1152.wav",
        "text": "尊重院長這邊的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1153.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼處理就怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1154.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤書記長補充一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1155.wav",
        "text": "幹事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1156.wav",
        "text": "我知道院長很懷念柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1157.wav",
        "text": "我相信總召現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1158.wav",
        "text": "也是在看直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1159.wav",
        "text": "民進黨還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1160.wav",
        "text": "臨時會能夠來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1161.wav",
        "text": "但是也透過今天的協商發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1162.wav",
        "text": "清楚知道兩黨的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1163.wav",
        "text": "我們就是看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1164.wav",
        "text": "院長的裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1165.wav",
        "text": "後續針對兩項人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1166.wav",
        "text": "同意權我非常同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1167.wav",
        "text": "讓它進入審查不代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1168.wav",
        "text": "各個委員就一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1169.wav",
        "text": "行使同意我剛剛一再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1170.wav",
        "text": "進入審查之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1171.wav",
        "text": "透過審查的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1172.wav",
        "text": "讓每一位立法委員對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1173.wav",
        "text": "被提名人的資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1174.wav",
        "text": "理念有更進一步的瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1175.wav",
        "text": "再來行使個別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1176.wav",
        "text": "立委的同意或不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1177.wav",
        "text": "所以絕對不是單方面的背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1178.wav",
        "text": "更不是放水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1179.wav",
        "text": "這個本來就是ABC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1180.wav",
        "text": "考試院對於國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1181.wav",
        "text": "考試這件事情真的是非同小可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1182.wav",
        "text": "確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1183.wav",
        "text": "今年會公布明年的哪幾項考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1184.wav",
        "text": "就如同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1185.wav",
        "text": "我們知道2026"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1186.wav",
        "text": "要選縣市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1187.wav",
        "text": "我們知道2028要再選總統跟立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1188.wav",
        "text": "但是那個請辦作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1189.wav",
        "text": "需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1190.wav",
        "text": "新任的考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1191.wav",
        "text": "來啟動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1192.wav",
        "text": "所以未來2026的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1193.wav",
        "text": "地方縣市首長選舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1194.wav",
        "text": "跟2028的總統或立委選舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1195.wav",
        "text": "也是中選會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1196.wav",
        "text": "要依一定的期程去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1197.wav",
        "text": "在考試委員叫做請辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1198.wav",
        "text": "在其他的機關辦理其他的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1199.wav",
        "text": "是啟辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1200.wav",
        "text": "\n這個不是說排定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1201.wav",
        "text": "考試的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1202.wav",
        "text": "啊哪一年度幾月份我要應考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1203.wav",
        "text": "這就是像每年大學聯考一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1204.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們那個年代叫聯考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1205.wav",
        "text": "現在已經不是用聯考這個詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1206.wav",
        "text": "所以說這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1207.wav",
        "text": "還是要講清楚考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1208.wav",
        "text": "依典試法它有一定的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1209.wav",
        "text": "我們不能因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1210.wav",
        "text": "我們自己這樣想說沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1211.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣我們要尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1212.wav",
        "text": "其他憲政機關去嚴謹地行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1213.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我做這個補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1214.wav",
        "text": "這個不是我們要去講得很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1215.wav",
        "text": "而事實上它就是有這樣的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1216.wav",
        "text": "不是只列了期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1217.wav",
        "text": "就可以辦理那個考試就能夠順利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1218.wav",
        "text": "這是考生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1219.wav",
        "text": "憲法保障人民的工作權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1220.wav",
        "text": "跟應試權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1221.wav",
        "text": "我們立委不能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1222.wav",
        "text": "無視於這個事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1223.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是期待臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1224.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有其他委員提出其他時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1225.wav",
        "text": "其他權宜的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1226.wav",
        "text": "進入審查進入討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1227.wav",
        "text": "請民眾黨黃總召補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1228.wav",
        "text": "不是啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1229.wav",
        "text": "既然可以補充的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1230.wav",
        "text": "那我也補充嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1231.wav",
        "text": "民主進步黨黨團口口聲說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1232.wav",
        "text": "考試委員很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1233.wav",
        "text": "考生的權益很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1234.wav",
        "text": "要趕快來進行審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1235.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛兩次發言已經說得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1236.wav",
        "text": "了從名單送到立法院來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1237.wav",
        "text": "我從來不在乎什麼拜不拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1238.wav",
        "text": "私底下拜不拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1239.wav",
        "text": "根本就不是個事嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1240.wav",
        "text": "那重點是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1241.wav",
        "text": "\n民主進步黨何時提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1242.wav",
        "text": "說來排全院委員會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1243.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候提過這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1244.wav",
        "text": "而台灣民眾黨反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1245.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1246.wav",
        "text": "你要進入全院委員會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1247.wav",
        "text": "他不是坐在那邊空的就可以審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1248.wav",
        "text": "要有黨團提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1249.wav",
        "text": "根本從來沒有過這樣的提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1250.wav",
        "text": "就放著時間不斷地走啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1251.wav",
        "text": "甚至我們7月初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1252.wav",
        "text": "說來延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1253.wav",
        "text": "處理考試委員的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1254.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1255.wav",
        "text": "民主進步黨悍然拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1256.wav",
        "text": "然後等到時間過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1257.wav",
        "text": "到8月底的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1258.wav",
        "text": "開始突然想起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1259.wav",
        "text": "考生的權益很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1260.wav",
        "text": "要給大家扣一個這麼大的帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1261.wav",
        "text": "不可承受之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1262.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召因為他膝蓋嚴重受傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1263.wav",
        "text": "三十年來第一次缺席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1264.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商他看了電視機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1265.wav",
        "text": "一定非常著急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1266.wav",
        "text": "院長召開全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1267.wav",
        "text": "審查民進黨不是秘書處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1268.wav",
        "text": "民進黨不是議事處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1269.wav",
        "text": "立法院又不是民進黨開的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1270.wav",
        "text": "這個我們怎麼能夠逕行來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1271.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家在休會期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1272.wav",
        "text": "電視機前面的柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1273.wav",
        "text": "也請一併聽清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1274.wav",
        "text": "那我這邊做正式的宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1275.wav",
        "text": "──第一各黨團對於召開臨時會有不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1276.wav",
        "text": "權利還是要回到各黨團的身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1277.wav",
        "text": "本部這邊我們來進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1278.wav",
        "text": "第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1279.wav",
        "text": "上一次會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1280.wav",
        "text": "最後一次院會有通過國情報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1281.wav",
        "text": "相關決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1282.wav",
        "text": "不過針對邀請的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1283.wav",
        "text": "各黨團並沒有明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1284.wav",
        "text": "我請各黨團溝通之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1285.wav",
        "text": "我們再來辦理後續的事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16111/1286.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我們散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/0.wav",
        "text": "立即解除禁止人民組團赴大陸觀光之限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1.wav",
        "text": "並優先開放大陸觀光客循小三通赴金馬澎三離島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2.wav",
        "text": "縣旅遊觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/3.wav",
        "text": "本案於5月11日13日經第1會期第13次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/4.wav",
        "text": "決定逕付二讀並由國民黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/5.wav",
        "text": "本席應國民黨團請求進行本案首次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/6.wav",
        "text": "\n針對本法的內容先請國民黨團說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/7.wav",
        "text": "主席我想先進行一個會議詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/8.wav",
        "text": "請問為什麼院長親自主持協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/9.wav",
        "text": "這兩個相關部會陸委會及交通部都是由副首長參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/10.wav",
        "text": "有什麼更重大的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/11.wav",
        "text": "可以先說明一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/12.wav",
        "text": "陸委會副主委請說一下你們主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/13.wav",
        "text": "抱歉抱歉因為今天主委10點鐘有一個外賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/14.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/15.wav",
        "text": "外賓比立法院還重要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/16.wav",
        "text": "沒有因為那個是早就約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/17.wav",
        "text": "大陸來的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/18.wav",
        "text": "哪裡來的外賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/19.wav",
        "text": "陸委會接待什麼外賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/20.wav",
        "text": "金門縣喔金門縣縣長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/21.wav",
        "text": "其他國家跟陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/22.wav",
        "text": "當然可以拜會但有比立法院重要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/23.wav",
        "text": "不好意思因為我們今天是9點40開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/24.wav",
        "text": "主委是10點鐘早就約好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/25.wav",
        "text": "真的不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/26.wav",
        "text": "副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/27.wav",
        "text": "交通部呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/28.wav",
        "text": "請交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/29.wav",
        "text": "我們部長今天上午是陪同總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/30.wav",
        "text": "視察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/31.wav",
        "text": "因為氣象署是我們交通部一個很重要的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/32.wav",
        "text": "所以今天總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/33.wav",
        "text": "這個我稍微可以接受一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/34.wav",
        "text": "陪同總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/35.wav",
        "text": "而且時間是剛好是10點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/36.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/37.wav",
        "text": "韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/38.wav",
        "text": "好陳玉珍委員的質詢柯建銘總召有話要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/39.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/40.wav",
        "text": "好我們今天是朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/41.wav",
        "text": "持平而論就是三大政黨的立場展示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/42.wav",
        "text": "當然他們屬於被動說明的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/43.wav",
        "text": "不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/44.wav",
        "text": "基於本題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/45.wav",
        "text": "我想這個原則大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/46.wav",
        "text": "我們會表示我們立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/47.wav",
        "text": "並不是說他們立場怎麼樣會改變我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/48.wav",
        "text": "就是大家共同決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/49.wav",
        "text": "會改變我的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/50.wav",
        "text": "啊不會改變你但會改變我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/51.wav",
        "text": "我不敢做這樣的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/52.wav",
        "text": "啦大家說真的就開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/53.wav",
        "text": "不是啊這是不尊重啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/54.wav",
        "text": "院長主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/55.wav",
        "text": "以後不來要先打"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/56.wav",
        "text": "如果是我們委員會都還不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/57.wav",
        "text": "了如果是內政委員會都還不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/58.wav",
        "text": "副首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/59.wav",
        "text": "其實我們在這裡協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/60.wav",
        "text": "不是這個是基本的尊重問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/61.wav",
        "text": "今天是我們立法院是五院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/62.wav",
        "text": "主責機關的部長一定到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/63.wav",
        "text": "你說其他機關可能是次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/64.wav",
        "text": "來但是主責機關的部長一定到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/65.wav",
        "text": "啊這最基本原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/66.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院的尊嚴可以這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/67.wav",
        "text": "不是好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/68.wav",
        "text": "今天沒什麼時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/69.wav",
        "text": "麼會是你決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/70.wav",
        "text": "野協商三黨要投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/71.wav",
        "text": "他們有投票權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/72.wav",
        "text": "今天不只是對立法院面子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/73.wav",
        "text": "民進黨民眾黨國民黨團的面子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/74.wav",
        "text": "討論事情本來就應該啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/75.wav",
        "text": "難道民進黨團可以接受這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/76.wav",
        "text": "你可以接受這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/77.wav",
        "text": "總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/78.wav",
        "text": "我覺得因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/79.wav",
        "text": "在大小聲什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/80.wav",
        "text": "我沒有大小聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/81.wav",
        "text": "我是譴責一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/82.wav",
        "text": "我邀請我們執政黨團總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/83.wav",
        "text": "譴責一下這樣的行為吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/84.wav",
        "text": "譴責一下這種不尊重立法院的行為吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/85.wav",
        "text": "請表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/86.wav",
        "text": "我們還是特別要建議啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/87.wav",
        "text": "院長主持的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/88.wav",
        "text": "其實首長理應一定要到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/89.wav",
        "text": "不到一定要照會院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/90.wav",
        "text": "這是立法院尊嚴的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/91.wav",
        "text": "有些人去陪總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/92.wav",
        "text": "有些那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/93.wav",
        "text": "確實是有要務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/94.wav",
        "text": "但還是要照會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/95.wav",
        "text": "所以我要請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/96.wav",
        "text": "我們院長他們有沒有照會你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/97.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/98.wav",
        "text": "我還是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/99.wav",
        "text": "院長主持會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/100.wav",
        "text": "首長一定要到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/101.wav",
        "text": "這是一個禮數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/102.wav",
        "text": "對立法院的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/103.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/104.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/105.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁總召舉手了請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/106.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長這幾天的辛勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/107.wav",
        "text": "走到會期的最後一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/108.wav",
        "text": "大家也在摸索互相認識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/109.wav",
        "text": "最重要的是這是國會殿堂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/110.wav",
        "text": "要有最基本的尊嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/111.wav",
        "text": "而且各政黨代表都在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/112.wav",
        "text": "我想會期到7月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/113.wav",
        "text": "是我們兩三個月前就已經定好的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/114.wav",
        "text": "行政院的各部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/115.wav",
        "text": "總統和院長在內都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/116.wav",
        "text": "這幾天是密集的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/117.wav",
        "text": "還是民生建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/118.wav",
        "text": "都是在這幾天要做成決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/119.wav",
        "text": "而且希望是非常和諧理性的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/120.wav",
        "text": "行政單位也能夠提出確實的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/121.wav",
        "text": "讓大家一起來探討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/122.wav",
        "text": "做成最後的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/123.wav",
        "text": "明知道今天是7月16號會期的最後一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/124.wav",
        "text": "而且有重要的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/125.wav",
        "text": "我相信賴清德總統一定會有雅量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/126.wav",
        "text": "看什麼重大的建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/127.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長副院長陪同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/128.wav",
        "text": "或是部會的次長陪同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/129.wav",
        "text": "大可不必"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/130.wav",
        "text": "必須要來這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/131.wav",
        "text": "反而選擇退出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/132.wav",
        "text": "而且剛剛我最不能接受的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/133.wav",
        "text": "我們的會議主席（院長）知不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/134.wav",
        "text": "看起來剛剛院長的表情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/135.wav",
        "text": "是並不知道這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/136.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個事情大家要討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/137.wav",
        "text": "因為不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/138.wav",
        "text": "我的立場剛剛講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/139.wav",
        "text": "沒有列席應該要跟院長請個假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/140.wav",
        "text": "這是基本禮貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/141.wav",
        "text": "對所以柯總召"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/142.wav",
        "text": "現在我要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/143.wav",
        "text": "執政是大家輪來輪去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/144.wav",
        "text": "啦但是在國會不管哪一個黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/145.wav",
        "text": "大家要互相尊敬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/146.wav",
        "text": "因為國會並沒有這麼小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/147.wav",
        "text": "柯總召也變得很小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/148.wav",
        "text": "我們都很小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/149.wav",
        "text": "因為我們各政黨代表百分之百的民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/150.wav",
        "text": "今天立法院韓院長都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/151.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這幾位部會首長沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/152.wav",
        "text": "也沒有跟院長請假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/153.wav",
        "text": "這是不應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/154.wav",
        "text": "你每次說十幾遍"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/155.wav",
        "text": "我們也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/156.wav",
        "text": "我們要講重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/157.wav",
        "text": "那可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/158.wav",
        "text": "柯總召對於兩位部長沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/159.wav",
        "text": "你意思表達讓我們聽一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/160.wav",
        "text": "我剛才已經講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/161.wav",
        "text": "立法院在朝野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/162.wav",
        "text": "個部會首長理當都要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/163.wav",
        "text": "因為對於重要法案的預算很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/164.wav",
        "text": "所以每個會期到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/165.wav",
        "text": "尤其這個時候是最重要的時刻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/166.wav",
        "text": "部會首長一定知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/167.wav",
        "text": "這個如果有糾葛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/168.wav",
        "text": "他要如何解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/169.wav",
        "text": "一定要跟院長請個假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/170.wav",
        "text": "這是一定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/171.wav",
        "text": "你們要譴責他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/172.wav",
        "text": "們我沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/173.wav",
        "text": "這個慣例早就建立在先了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/174.wav",
        "text": "今天我不知道他們為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/175.wav",
        "text": "犯這種錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/176.wav",
        "text": "你也不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/177.wav",
        "text": "我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/178.wav",
        "text": "你什麼時候變這麼小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/179.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/180.wav",
        "text": "我不知道他們沒有跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/181.wav",
        "text": "院長請假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/182.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/183.wav",
        "text": "麻煩兩位次長回去以後轉達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/184.wav",
        "text": "正式通知部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/185.wav",
        "text": "要到現場表達對立法院的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/186.wav",
        "text": "以及對自己部本部的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/187.wav",
        "text": "現在我們繼續回到主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/188.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨團說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/189.wav",
        "text": "針對開放觀光的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/190.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/191.wav",
        "text": "這個大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/192.wav",
        "text": "今年2月以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/193.wav",
        "text": "本來是選舉那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/194.wav",
        "text": "大家都期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/195.wav",
        "text": "尤其國內的觀光業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/196.wav",
        "text": "都抱著滿心期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/197.wav",
        "text": "要開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/198.wav",
        "text": "有兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/199.wav",
        "text": "一個是往大陸去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/200.wav",
        "text": "一個是迎接客人來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/201.wav",
        "text": "有關出國的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/202.wav",
        "text": "部裡面的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/203.wav",
        "text": "也是說要開放的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/204.wav",
        "text": "沒有想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/205.wav",
        "text": "莫名其妙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/206.wav",
        "text": "突然就宣布到6月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/207.wav",
        "text": "都是可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/208.wav",
        "text": "都是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/209.wav",
        "text": "的但6月份以後就不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/210.wav",
        "text": "了\n現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/211.wav",
        "text": "我們來講一個觀光業的實況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/212.wav",
        "text": "實際上大家可能是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/213.wav",
        "text": "比如說散客到大陸去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/214.wav",
        "text": "然後去那邊後就集結成團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/215.wav",
        "text": "觀光業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/216.wav",
        "text": "這樣的操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/217.wav",
        "text": "事實上會造成國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/218.wav",
        "text": "赴外旅遊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/219.wav",
        "text": "不安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/220.wav",
        "text": "或者以法律上來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/221.wav",
        "text": "不管是國人出外去觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/222.wav",
        "text": "或者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/223.wav",
        "text": "我們歡迎客人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/224.wav",
        "text": "都是很正面的事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/225.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的觀光人口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/226.wav",
        "text": "一直沒有辦法上升"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/227.wav",
        "text": "像我前幾個禮拜去一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/228.wav",
        "text": "有一個觀光飯店的業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/229.wav",
        "text": "55年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/230.wav",
        "text": "從疫情到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/231.wav",
        "text": "這一段時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/232.wav",
        "text": "是最慘的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/233.wav",
        "text": "是最艱難的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/234.wav",
        "text": "位於國內宜蘭那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/235.wav",
        "text": "他說從來沒有見過這麼慘的狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/236.wav",
        "text": "因為客人不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/237.wav",
        "text": "最近開放"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/238.wav",
        "text": "了大部分民眾都出國去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/239.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/240.wav",
        "text": "沒有客人進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/241.wav",
        "text": "如果有陸客當然幫助很大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/242.wav",
        "text": "來開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/243.wav",
        "text": "尤其我們金門地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/244.wav",
        "text": "觀光產業現在真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/245.wav",
        "text": "非常非常的慘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/246.wav",
        "text": "不要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/247.wav",
        "text": "小三通前幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/248.wav",
        "text": "沒有開放那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/249.wav",
        "text": "我們每一年就損失"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/250.wav",
        "text": "二三十億臺幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/251.wav",
        "text": "欣欣向榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/252.wav",
        "text": "大陸旅客可以過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/253.wav",
        "text": "可以恢復以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/254.wav",
        "text": "沒有想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/255.wav",
        "text": "迎來這樣的日子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/256.wav",
        "text": "各個產業連動式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/257.wav",
        "text": "整個金門地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/258.wav",
        "text": "所有產業都落入愁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/259.wav",
        "text": "愁雲慘霧的情況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/260.wav",
        "text": "所以為了民生經濟考量"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/261.wav",
        "text": "我想請求一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/262.wav",
        "text": "然民進黨的委員在這裡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/263.wav",
        "text": "瞭解金門的情形"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/264.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/265.wav",
        "text": "解除禁止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/266.wav",
        "text": "人民赴大陸觀光之限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/267.wav",
        "text": "大家俗稱的禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/268.wav",
        "text": "我想國內觀光業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/269.wav",
        "text": "也是呼籲再三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/270.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/271.wav",
        "text": "一起來做成決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/272.wav",
        "text": "讓交通相關部門來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/273.wav",
        "text": "開放大陸觀光客"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/274.wav",
        "text": "金馬澎三個離島觀光"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/275.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/276.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/277.wav",
        "text": "馬祖已經有踩線團了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/278.wav",
        "text": "當然大陸這邊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/279.wav",
        "text": "也有一些考量"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/280.wav",
        "text": "也會去push"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/281.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/282.wav",
        "text": "在兩岸現在關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/283.wav",
        "text": "如此緊繃的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/284.wav",
        "text": "我們雖然已經表示開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/285.wav",
        "text": "陸委會應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/286.wav",
        "text": "表示贊成的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/287.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得還是應該"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/288.wav",
        "text": "做一個比較嚴正的聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/289.wav",
        "text": "公開的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/290.wav",
        "text": "慢慢從旅展方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/291.wav",
        "text": "文旅廳相關人員過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/292.wav",
        "text": "7月20號即將進行"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/293.wav",
        "text": "也有讓一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/294.wav",
        "text": "福建省體育局的人過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/295.wav",
        "text": "我想這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/296.wav",
        "text": "初步的慢慢的釋出善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/297.wav",
        "text": "──主委今天沒有來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/298.wav",
        "text": "是比較瞭解整個政策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/299.wav",
        "text": "副主委也是很熟悉"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/300.wav",
        "text": "我也不能說他不熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/301.wav",
        "text": "但畢竟主委是做決策的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/302.wav",
        "text": "更清楚地說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/303.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/304.wav",
        "text": "一直有在釋出善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/305.wav",
        "text": "我想這對兩岸的往來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/306.wav",
        "text": "會是一件非常正面的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/307.wav",
        "text": "還有民眾黨團一同支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/308.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/309.wav",
        "text": "謝謝接下來柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/310.wav",
        "text": "然後林國成委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/311.wav",
        "text": "針對剛才陳玉珍委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/312.wav",
        "text": "主委是做決策的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/313.wav",
        "text": "但是這個是屬於兩岸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/314.wav",
        "text": "也是國安問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/315.wav",
        "text": "不是主委可以做決策的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/316.wav",
        "text": "不是主委一個人可以做決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/317.wav",
        "text": "的也不是我們民進黨黨團可以置喙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/318.wav",
        "text": "坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/319.wav",
        "text": "我知道你想要促成開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/320.wav",
        "text": "但是你要想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/321.wav",
        "text": "到底為什麼觀光客不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/322.wav",
        "text": "要講原因大家就比較清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/323.wav",
        "text": "當然第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/324.wav",
        "text": "我們不希望本末倒置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/325.wav",
        "text": "這是大陸是中國的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/326.wav",
        "text": "它來踩線以後也沒有回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/327.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們要講這個原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/328.wav",
        "text": "持平而論大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/329.wav",
        "text": "\n最近情勢也很險峻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/330.wav",
        "text": "有所謂的懲治臺獨22條意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/331.wav",
        "text": "已經變成橙色燈號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/332.wav",
        "text": "大家不會怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/333.wav",
        "text": "國家作為上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/334.wav",
        "text": "當然要給人民一些警示或建議看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/335.wav",
        "text": "這是國家安全上必須考慮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/336.wav",
        "text": "這個應該是滾動式檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/337.wav",
        "text": "而不是我們這邊開放就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/338.wav",
        "text": "你想想看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/339.wav",
        "text": "大陸對我們的開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/340.wav",
        "text": "從2019年8月1日開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/341.wav",
        "text": "不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/342.wav",
        "text": "2019年1月8不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/343.wav",
        "text": "對金門是開放的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/344.wav",
        "text": "你聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/345.wav",
        "text": "完嘛至於旅行團部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/346.wav",
        "text": "大陸文旅部從去年1月到現在全部禁止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/347.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊傅崐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/348.wav",
        "text": "福建到馬祖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/349.wav",
        "text": "踩線根本一點用處都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/350.wav",
        "text": "的戰略意味"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/351.wav",
        "text": "意味他們也一直跟我們做統戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/352.wav",
        "text": "你又不思考這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/353.wav",
        "text": "你剛才講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/354.wav",
        "text": "在今年5月底以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/355.wav",
        "text": "社從2月開始到3月到5月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/356.wav",
        "text": "之內已經成團的全部給他出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/357.wav",
        "text": "後面我們就不再處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/358.wav",
        "text": "因為他們對我們是相當敵意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/359.wav",
        "text": "這不對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/360.wav",
        "text": "要想這個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/361.wav",
        "text": "要想清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/362.wav",
        "text": "大家要想這整個政策方向走向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/363.wav",
        "text": "是誰何以致之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/364.wav",
        "text": "萬方有罪罪在中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/365.wav",
        "text": "不是罪在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/366.wav",
        "text": "你要建議大陸開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/367.wav",
        "text": "不是建議我們這邊開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/368.wav",
        "text": "邏輯上不要搞錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/369.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/370.wav",
        "text": "立法院一個決議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/371.wav",
        "text": "可以主導國家政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/372.wav",
        "text": "我不認為有這樣的權限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/373.wav",
        "text": "這是總統職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/374.wav",
        "text": "接下來請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/375.wav",
        "text": "林國成委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/376.wav",
        "text": "玉珍委員麻煩你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/377.wav",
        "text": "你已經發言過一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/378.wav",
        "text": "了洪東偉已經舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/379.wav",
        "text": "我們請洪東偉之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/380.wav",
        "text": "我頭昏了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/381.wav",
        "text": "請洪申翰發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/382.wav",
        "text": "洪申翰發言以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/383.wav",
        "text": "我們請吳思瑤委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/384.wav",
        "text": "因為你已經發言過一次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/385.wav",
        "text": "三黨坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/386.wav",
        "text": "談這些敏感的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/387.wav",
        "text": "但是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/388.wav",
        "text": "離島觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/389.wav",
        "text": "離島經濟主要來源的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/390.wav",
        "text": "這一點玉珍委員所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/391.wav",
        "text": "確確實實是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/392.wav",
        "text": "這個基本上我也是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/393.wav",
        "text": "\n但我在看兩岸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/394.wav",
        "text": "到底是像剛剛柯總召所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/395.wav",
        "text": "如果堅持今天立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/396.wav",
        "text": "沒有提出這些開頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/397.wav",
        "text": "那國安怎麼會去做參考跟考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/398.wav",
        "text": "所以我個人還有我們黨裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/399.wav",
        "text": "的所以開放離島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/400.wav",
        "text": "第一離島的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/401.wav",
        "text": "其實國安問題是減少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/402.wav",
        "text": "如果我們今天把離島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/403.wav",
        "text": "會有兩岸和平的契機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/404.wav",
        "text": "所以我們本黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/405.wav",
        "text": "站在本黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/406.wav",
        "text": "第一觀光提升是有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/407.wav",
        "text": "第二我們還是滿希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/408.wav",
        "text": "未來兩岸和平那更重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/409.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得先拋出橄欖枝去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/410.wav",
        "text": "如果對岸不來那是你的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/411.wav",
        "text": "但是我的善意已經先表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/412.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/413.wav",
        "text": "大家應該坐下來好好談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/414.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣去把它開端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/415.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/416.wav",
        "text": "兩岸的和平契機是有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/417.wav",
        "text": "所以本黨支持這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/418.wav",
        "text": "大家要好好來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/419.wav",
        "text": "支持這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/420.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林國成委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/421.wav",
        "text": "員\n接下來請洪申翰委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/422.wav",
        "text": "我想各政黨都支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/423.wav",
        "text": "擴大觀光的觀光經濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/424.wav",
        "text": "這都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/425.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得我自己也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/426.wav",
        "text": "行政部門可以說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/427.wav",
        "text": "現在各國都面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/428.wav",
        "text": "這其實不是只是臺灣面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/429.wav",
        "text": "而已並不是只是陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/430.wav",
        "text": "來公布橙燈的警示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/431.wav",
        "text": "喔\n以下是近期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/432.wav",
        "text": "幾個民主國家都有提供的警示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/433.wav",
        "text": "我唸一下給大家聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/434.wav",
        "text": "美國在2023年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/435.wav",
        "text": "其實就說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/436.wav",
        "text": "因為中國的國安法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/437.wav",
        "text": "所以提醒非必要不要前往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/438.wav",
        "text": "這是美國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/439.wav",
        "text": "再來韓國的國情院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/440.wav",
        "text": "近期也發出旅遊警示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/441.wav",
        "text": "警示從7月1號起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/442.wav",
        "text": "入境中國可能被任意檢查手機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/443.wav",
        "text": "任意拘捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/444.wav",
        "text": "這是韓國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/445.wav",
        "text": "愛爾蘭在5月16號發出警告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/446.wav",
        "text": "提醒中國當局可能會對個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/447.wav",
        "text": "實施出境禁令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/448.wav",
        "text": "阻止他們離開該國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/449.wav",
        "text": "並提醒此類禁令與拘捕或禁令不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/450.wav",
        "text": "是中國法律程序的一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/451.wav",
        "text": "可能持續數月或更長時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/452.wav",
        "text": "加拿大政府在6月26號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/453.wav",
        "text": "更新它的旅遊建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/454.wav",
        "text": "提醒國人去中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/455.wav",
        "text": "會有任意執行當地法律的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/456.wav",
        "text": "請在中國保持高度謹慎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/457.wav",
        "text": "澳洲的部分是在7月1號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/458.wav",
        "text": "更新旅遊提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/459.wav",
        "text": "建議澳洲人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/460.wav",
        "text": "要在中國保持高度謹慎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/461.wav",
        "text": "並告知中國當局恐以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/462.wav",
        "text": "危害國家安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/463.wav",
        "text": "為由拘捕外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/464.wav",
        "text": "英國政府也一樣提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/465.wav",
        "text": "民眾要注意中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/466.wav",
        "text": "政府跟國家安全法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/467.wav",
        "text": "\n我要說的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/468.wav",
        "text": "這不是只針對臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/469.wav",
        "text": "這不是只針對民進黨執政的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/470.wav",
        "text": "這些民主國家都執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/471.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是對於這些國際上面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/472.wav",
        "text": "每一個民主國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/473.wav",
        "text": "都提高了對中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/474.wav",
        "text": "赴中旅遊的警示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/475.wav",
        "text": "都在提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/476.wav",
        "text": "會有被任意拘捕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/477.wav",
        "text": "檢查手機的安全問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/478.wav",
        "text": "我自己想問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/479.wav",
        "text": "第一個我也想請教行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/480.wav",
        "text": "對於這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/481.wav",
        "text": "我們目前因應的作為是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/482.wav",
        "text": "第二個我知道今天在野黨──"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/483.wav",
        "text": "當然我覺得也是出於一個好意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/484.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠解除這個禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/485.wav",
        "text": "但是一樣還是面對這個風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/486.wav",
        "text": "啊那大家對這個風險的看法是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/487.wav",
        "text": "這不是只是臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/488.wav",
        "text": "喔不是說你們換一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/489.wav",
        "text": "政黨執政就沒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/490.wav",
        "text": "沒有這些國家不是都民進黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/491.wav",
        "text": "但大家都面對這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/492.wav",
        "text": "啊那大家的看法是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/493.wav",
        "text": "我們會不會今天再讓更多的國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/494.wav",
        "text": "到中國去旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/495.wav",
        "text": "反而製造了大家更大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/496.wav",
        "text": "安全上面的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/497.wav",
        "text": "這事情大家怎麼面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/498.wav",
        "text": "怎麼處理這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/499.wav",
        "text": "謝謝下面吳思瑤委員發言完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/500.wav",
        "text": "我們請行政部門回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/501.wav",
        "text": "答復之後再請陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/502.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們可以聽聽看行政部門的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/503.wav",
        "text": "所以洪申翰委員剛剛所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/504.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請陸委會跟交通部準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/505.wav",
        "text": "\n請吳思瑤委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/506.wav",
        "text": "謝謝兩岸恢復觀光交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/507.wav",
        "text": "我想只要在安全無虞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/508.wav",
        "text": "在彼此善意友善的狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/509.wav",
        "text": "大家都樂見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/510.wav",
        "text": "這段時間以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/511.wav",
        "text": "我們就用具體的數字來看一看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/512.wav",
        "text": "這個input跟output在臺灣赴陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/513.wav",
        "text": "或是陸方來臺灣的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/514.wav",
        "text": "實質的觀光人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/515.wav",
        "text": "如果從2023年的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/516.wav",
        "text": "臺灣到中國有176萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/517.wav",
        "text": "但是中國來到臺灣只有22.6萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/518.wav",
        "text": "這是去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/519.wav",
        "text": "如果以今年1到6月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/520.wav",
        "text": "上半年的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/521.wav",
        "text": "臺灣赴陸到中國的超過100萬人次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/522.wav",
        "text": "而中方來到臺灣的只有15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/523.wav",
        "text": "所以數字會說話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/524.wav",
        "text": "就開放性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/525.wav",
        "text": "就彼此互通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/526.wav",
        "text": "的inputoutput"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/527.wav",
        "text": "我想這是一個很大的懸殊的差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/528.wav",
        "text": "所以問題在哪一方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/529.wav",
        "text": "其實用數字來凸顯也非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/530.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個如果說聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/531.wav",
        "text": "在玉珍委員非常關心的離島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/532.wav",
        "text": "小三通金馬澎的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/533.wav",
        "text": "我想也是可以把一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/534.wav",
        "text": "實質的作法在這裡也再還原一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/535.wav",
        "text": "如果說中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/536.wav",
        "text": "以小三通的相關辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/537.wav",
        "text": "申請到金馬來旅行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/538.wav",
        "text": "那原本就是包括在112年8月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/539.wav",
        "text": "政府就已經公布的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/540.wav",
        "text": "我想玉珍很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/541.wav",
        "text": "恢復兩岸觀光的規劃方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/542.wav",
        "text": "只要陸方開放就可以馬上做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/543.wav",
        "text": "這是第一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/544.wav",
        "text": "聚焦在臺灣對於開放小三通到金馬澎湖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/545.wav",
        "text": "這三個離島的觀光旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/546.wav",
        "text": "這是第一件事情我們做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/547.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/548.wav",
        "text": "依據中國文旅部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/549.wav",
        "text": "113年4月28日剛公布的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/550.wav",
        "text": "僅率先恢復福建到馬祖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/551.wav",
        "text": "但是也沒有到金門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/552.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以說如果說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/553.wav",
        "text": "陸方對於到金門旅遊的障礙在誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/554.wav",
        "text": "陸方啊它為什麼沒有開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/555.wav",
        "text": "\n它只開放到馬祖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/556.wav",
        "text": "嘛我想玉珍你一直點頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/557.wav",
        "text": "你也很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/558.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n第三個就是剛剛來的那個踩線團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/559.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/560.wav",
        "text": "福州市旅遊協會到馬祖的這個踩線團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/561.wav",
        "text": "是今年6月底已經完成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/562.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/563.wav",
        "text": "如果他們踩線完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/564.wav",
        "text": "對於我們的所有觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/565.wav",
        "text": "臺灣確實是可以吸引他們來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/566.wav",
        "text": "只要他們開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/567.wav",
        "text": "那馬上就可以專案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/568.wav",
        "text": "我想我們陸委會政府的這個態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/569.wav",
        "text": "是非常的清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/570.wav",
        "text": "所以聚焦在今天這個提案的本題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/571.wav",
        "text": "就是循小三通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/572.wav",
        "text": "金馬澎三離島觀光的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/573.wav",
        "text": "其實聚焦也可以看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/574.wav",
        "text": "我們是open的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/575.wav",
        "text": "只要陸方OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/576.wav",
        "text": "其實就可以達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/577.wav",
        "text": "所以說這個橄欖枝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/578.wav",
        "text": "我想臺灣政府不是橄欖枝而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/579.wav",
        "text": "啦甚至橄欖樹可能都背在肩上扛出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/580.wav",
        "text": "啦所以這個東西陸方這個對等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/581.wav",
        "text": "在等對方的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/582.wav",
        "text": "而不是只對自己臺灣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/583.wav",
        "text": "來給予很多的壓力跟要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/584.wav",
        "text": "\n當然我們也要講剛剛洪申翰委員說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/585.wav",
        "text": "timing對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/586.wav",
        "text": "大家要想想這個timing對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/587.wav",
        "text": "長期以來兩岸的互動觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/588.wav",
        "text": "友善的狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/589.wav",
        "text": "安全平等的前提之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/590.wav",
        "text": "這是OK的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/591.wav",
        "text": "可是現在這個timing"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/592.wav",
        "text": "中國公布了懲獨22條的這個timing之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/593.wav",
        "text": "剛剛洪委員講了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/594.wav",
        "text": "連國際都在限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/595.wav",
        "text": "或者是對於該國國人赴中國旅行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/596.wav",
        "text": "提出很多示警作為的這個當下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/597.wav",
        "text": "如果臺灣的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/598.wav",
        "text": "就在這個當下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/599.wav",
        "text": "做了這個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/600.wav",
        "text": "去要求我們的自己的政府都開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/601.wav",
        "text": "那我們除了讓陸方覺得說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/602.wav",
        "text": "你們臺灣都不怕很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/603.wav",
        "text": "我這懲獨22條剛剛好而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/604.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個對國內造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/605.wav",
        "text": "我們對國人的心理狀態示警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/606.wav",
        "text": "還是你是鼓勵大家去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/607.wav",
        "text": "你是希望大家安全的前提儘量少去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/608.wav",
        "text": "還是因為國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/609.wav",
        "text": "做成了這個決議就是鼓勵大家趕快去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/610.wav",
        "text": "這對於國內的視聽是一個混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/611.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個對於國際的視聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/612.wav",
        "text": "更是一個錯誤的訊息傳達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/613.wav",
        "text": "對於中國針對臺灣端出這樣的懲獨22條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/614.wav",
        "text": "對臺灣人的安全造成很大疑慮的當下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/615.wav",
        "text": "我們的國會做出這個決議反其道而行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/616.wav",
        "text": "好像是附和呼應中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/617.wav",
        "text": "這個會給國際社會錯誤的訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/618.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個更為嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/619.wav",
        "text": "我們不可不慎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/620.wav",
        "text": "因為這是一個國會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/621.wav",
        "text": "民進黨作為國會的51席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/622.wav",
        "text": "我們對於這個決議覺得非常難以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/623.wav",
        "text": "所以它不是一個goodtiming"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/624.wav",
        "text": "它是一個badtiming"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/625.wav",
        "text": "\n最後國安問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/626.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯總召也講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/627.wav",
        "text": "這涉及國安體系的綜合評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/628.wav",
        "text": "這也涉及行政的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/629.wav",
        "text": "甚至涉及總統的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/630.wav",
        "text": "我們用一個決議的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/631.wav",
        "text": "立院決議就要求這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/632.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個層面上也是要多多考量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/633.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/634.wav",
        "text": "表達意見然後請交通部準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/635.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/636.wav",
        "text": "陸委會謹就剛剛幾位委員提到的一些事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/637.wav",
        "text": "來做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/638.wav",
        "text": "首先是陸客來臺觀光的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/639.wav",
        "text": "其實總統520的就職演說有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/640.wav",
        "text": "先從重啟雙邊對等的觀光旅遊開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/641.wav",
        "text": "要共同追求兩岸的和平共榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/642.wav",
        "text": "所以那個時候我們政府就有把恢復兩岸觀光旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/643.wav",
        "text": "列為推動兩岸交流一個很重要的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/644.wav",
        "text": "這個部分剛剛幾位委員也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/645.wav",
        "text": "\n其實交通部跟陸委會在去年8月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/646.wav",
        "text": "就已經有對外公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/647.wav",
        "text": "兩岸團體旅遊恢復的一個規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/648.wav",
        "text": "而且在去年9月我們就做好了相關準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/649.wav",
        "text": "也就是等陸方來相對開放我們就可以來落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/650.wav",
        "text": "同時為了促成陸客到金馬來觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/651.wav",
        "text": "所以各位委員也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/652.wav",
        "text": "我們最近也做了很多努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/653.wav",
        "text": "包括開放赴馬祖的踩線團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/654.wav",
        "text": "最近也要再辦金廈泳渡等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/655.wav",
        "text": "對於陸方關切的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/656.wav",
        "text": "我們也都積極地在處理當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/657.wav",
        "text": "在這些之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/658.wav",
        "text": "明踩線團之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/659.wav",
        "text": "我們很歡迎陸方趕快提出陸客到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/660.wav",
        "text": "馬祖金門的旅行申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/661.wav",
        "text": "我們會依程序來專案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/662.wav",
        "text": "所以目前陸客沒有辦法到金門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/663.wav",
        "text": "臺灣來觀光旅遊這部分的障礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/664.wav",
        "text": "的確是在中國方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/665.wav",
        "text": "\n第二部分我們要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/666.wav",
        "text": "的是剛剛也有委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/667.wav",
        "text": "目前整體兩岸情勢確實比較複雜而且嚴峻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/668.wav",
        "text": "它也公布了一系列的國安法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/669.wav",
        "text": "當然這個在國際間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/670.wav",
        "text": "也引起了一些關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/671.wav",
        "text": "也發布了旅遊警示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/672.wav",
        "text": "我們是在今年6月21號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/673.wav",
        "text": "中國發布了懲獨22條意見之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/674.wav",
        "text": "覺得國人到大陸旅遊的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/675.wav",
        "text": "以及人身安全的風險在提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/676.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就在6月27號把赴陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/677.wav",
        "text": "的旅遊警示燈號提高為橙色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/678.wav",
        "text": "在行前要審慎評估去大陸的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/679.wav",
        "text": "要把所有國人組團赴陸旅遊的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/680.wav",
        "text": "通通都解除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/681.wav",
        "text": "其實它就是一個訊號告訴國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/682.wav",
        "text": "這樣就會誤導國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/683.wav",
        "text": "對於目前赴陸旅遊會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/684.wav",
        "text": "讓國人失去警覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/685.wav",
        "text": "同時也會對國際社會釋放出一個錯誤的訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/686.wav",
        "text": "旅遊警示燈號不應該做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/687.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/688.wav",
        "text": "目前整個兩岸旅遊的開放其實是不對等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/689.wav",
        "text": "個人去大陸旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/690.wav",
        "text": "或是參加當地的團體旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/691.wav",
        "text": "但是陸方基於政治理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/692.wav",
        "text": "在2019年8月就禁止陸客個人來臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/693.wav",
        "text": "旅遊就是所謂的自由行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/694.wav",
        "text": "所以去年我方已經有176萬人次去大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/695.wav",
        "text": "超過100萬人次的國人去大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/696.wav",
        "text": "交通部在今年2月7號發布一個函令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/697.wav",
        "text": "已經招攬的旅行團可以在3月1號到5月31號赴大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/698.wav",
        "text": "旅遊行政院5月30號院會之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/699.wav",
        "text": "交通部宣布6月1號前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/700.wav",
        "text": "已經規劃的旅行團也可以繼續赴陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/701.wav",
        "text": "後續將視情形滾動檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/702.wav",
        "text": "但是陸方在疫情之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/703.wav",
        "text": "也就是從2023年1月到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/704.wav",
        "text": "但是就是不包括臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/705.wav",
        "text": "來臺觀光的陸客人數是零"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/706.wav",
        "text": "的確是會牽涉到一些國安的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/707.wav",
        "text": "也涉及到兩岸的互動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/708.wav",
        "text": "過去都是一直由國安部門跟行政部門共同來處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/709.wav",
        "text": "我們希望未來我們還是會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/710.wav",
        "text": "而且考量國家整體的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/711.wav",
        "text": "我們來加以滾動地檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/712.wav",
        "text": "謝謝李副主委的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/713.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請交通部陳次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/714.wav",
        "text": "交通部現在就這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/715.wav",
        "text": "首先還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/716.wav",
        "text": "已經特別提到兩岸可以先從重啟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/717.wav",
        "text": "雙邊對等的觀光開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/718.wav",
        "text": "我想這是政府整體的一個立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/719.wav",
        "text": "其實在旅行社組團赴陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/720.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們本來是規劃在今年5月31號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/721.wav",
        "text": "但是考量有一定數量的旅行團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/722.wav",
        "text": "未能於5月底成行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/723.wav",
        "text": "所以為維護旅客及旅行業者的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/724.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在旅行社特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/725.wav",
        "text": "旅行社在今年2月7號前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/726.wav",
        "text": "已經成團或已經規劃組團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/727.wav",
        "text": "在6月1號以前仍然可以出團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/728.wav",
        "text": "所以意思就是說到目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/729.wav",
        "text": "還是可以用這樣的一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/730.wav",
        "text": "但是以後就是不可以再招攬出團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/731.wav",
        "text": "據我們的瞭解到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/732.wav",
        "text": "在3到5月出去的旅行人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/733.wav",
        "text": "數透過組團的大概有11萬人次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/734.wav",
        "text": "在6月剛才也講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/735.wav",
        "text": "了以前規劃在6月出團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/736.wav",
        "text": "大概有1.1萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/737.wav",
        "text": "所以說這樣的人次還是繼續有在出團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/738.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來要說明的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/739.wav",
        "text": "剛才副主委也特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/740.wav",
        "text": "恢復健康有序的交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/741.wav",
        "text": "一向是政府的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/742.wav",
        "text": "但是有關陸客來臺觀光的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/743.wav",
        "text": "的評估跟規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/744.wav",
        "text": "所以為了確保兩岸健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/745.wav",
        "text": "我們交通部會配合相關的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/746.wav",
        "text": "辦理相關的事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/747.wav",
        "text": "適時來滾動檢討相關的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/748.wav",
        "text": "讓兩岸的觀光業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/749.wav",
        "text": "要循序推動兩岸恢復民間的交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/750.wav",
        "text": "我想這是交通部對這個案子的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/751.wav",
        "text": "那剛才洪申翰委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/752.wav",
        "text": "有特別提到旅遊警訊發布的時候相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/753.wav",
        "text": "問題我想旅遊警訊是陸委會在今年6月27號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/754.wav",
        "text": "麻煩你講話要稍微對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/755.wav",
        "text": "陸港澳旅遊的橙色警示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/756.wav",
        "text": "其實代表的意義是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/757.wav",
        "text": "避免非必要的旅行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/758.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的一個警示發布了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/759.wav",
        "text": "交通部跟觀光署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/760.wav",
        "text": "曾經多次向旅行的業者或國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/761.wav",
        "text": "特別提醒非必要的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/762.wav",
        "text": "而且如果要去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/763.wav",
        "text": "話要考慮自身的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/764.wav",
        "text": "我想這個剛才很多人大概都有提到過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/765.wav",
        "text": "要考量目前赴大陸旅遊有其一定的風險以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/766.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳次長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/767.wav",
        "text": "跟陳玉珍委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/768.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團有提出一個修正文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/769.wav",
        "text": "等一下我會休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/770.wav",
        "text": "你發言完我們就休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/771.wav",
        "text": "大家來協商請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/772.wav",
        "text": "好我想我們今天這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/773.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團提出來的是一個民生議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/774.wav",
        "text": "但是我們看到民進黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/775.wav",
        "text": "還有相關的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/776.wav",
        "text": "都是在用政治來回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/777.wav",
        "text": "不過我們還是讓它回歸民生議題來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/778.wav",
        "text": "然後來聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/779.wav",
        "text": "因為民進黨黨團說得都非常好聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/780.wav",
        "text": "我們非常支持醫生醫療產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/781.wav",
        "text": "但是健保點值絕對不能給他們保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/782.wav",
        "text": "我們非常支持醫療觀光的業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/783.wav",
        "text": "但是我們絕對要把他限制起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/784.wav",
        "text": "他那裡不能去這裡不能來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/785.wav",
        "text": "非常的矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/786.wav",
        "text": "喔不過我要說幾點民進黨黨團對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/787.wav",
        "text": "有關的一些往來不瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/788.wav",
        "text": "而且說出了倒果為因的這種說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/789.wav",
        "text": "剛剛柯總召說2019年8月1日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/790.wav",
        "text": "大陸全面禁止自由行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/791.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我告訴您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/792.wav",
        "text": "2019年8月1日全面禁止自由行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/793.wav",
        "text": "後來事實上也是從8月1日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/794.wav",
        "text": "金馬澎都是開放的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/795.wav",
        "text": "大陸旅客赴金馬澎是開放的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/796.wav",
        "text": "這個您可能不瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/797.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天特別提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/798.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要優先開放大陸觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/799.wav",
        "text": "小三通到金馬澎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/800.wav",
        "text": "也是希望說在兩岸關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/801.wav",
        "text": "很禁止的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/802.wav",
        "text": "從金馬澎先做試點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/803.wav",
        "text": "先行先試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/804.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個剛剛吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/805.wav",
        "text": "思瑤委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/806.wav",
        "text": "臺灣赴大陸是176萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/807.wav",
        "text": "大陸赴臺灣是26萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/808.wav",
        "text": "你有說出一些數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/809.wav",
        "text": "所以你知道背景嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/810.wav",
        "text": "果為因大陸到臺灣來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/811.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣沒有開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/812.wav",
        "text": "中華民國沒有開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/813.wav",
        "text": "讓中國大陸人民進來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/814.wav",
        "text": "嘛在之前我們爭取了相當久"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/815.wav",
        "text": "從小三通要重啟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/816.wav",
        "text": "到後來旅遊團的開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/817.wav",
        "text": "因為就是沒有開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/818.wav",
        "text": "所以才會來的人少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/819.wav",
        "text": "當初我們沒有什麼禁止過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/820.wav",
        "text": "所以我們去的人多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/821.wav",
        "text": "嘛這是因為政策的關係才造成這個結果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/822.wav",
        "text": "你現在把這個結果拿來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/823.wav",
        "text": "剛剛洪申翰委員說去那裡會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/824.wav",
        "text": "陸委會要發布什麼警戒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/825.wav",
        "text": "這是陸委會的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/826.wav",
        "text": "而是你們抱著一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/827.wav",
        "text": "為之父為之母的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/828.wav",
        "text": "來限制人民的行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/829.wav",
        "text": "百姓自然會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/830.wav",
        "text": "判斷你發布了這個警戒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/831.wav",
        "text": "百姓如果覺得很危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/832.wav",
        "text": "他自然就不會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/833.wav",
        "text": "百姓如果願意去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/834.wav",
        "text": "他就是覺得可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/835.wav",
        "text": "我想請問交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/836.wav",
        "text": "菲律賓是什麼警戒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/837.wav",
        "text": "是什麼顏色的自由嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/838.wav",
        "text": "我國國民赴菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/839.wav",
        "text": "我想知道一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/840.wav",
        "text": "是橙色的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/841.wav",
        "text": "還是紅色的那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/842.wav",
        "text": "那是外交部在發布的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/843.wav",
        "text": "你們不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/844.wav",
        "text": "菲律賓前一陣子還發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/845.wav",
        "text": "幾個人在那邊進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/846.wav",
        "text": "馬上被槍決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/847.wav",
        "text": "怎麼我們沒有看到相關的部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/848.wav",
        "text": "做相關的什麼警戒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/849.wav",
        "text": "不過我也不是要討論這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/850.wav",
        "text": "我們要聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/851.wav",
        "text": "一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/852.wav",
        "text": "解除我國的人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/853.wav",
        "text": "赴大陸觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/854.wav",
        "text": "這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/855.wav",
        "text": "你們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/856.wav",
        "text": "沒有禁止嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/857.wav",
        "text": "你們現在是有禁止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/858.wav",
        "text": "有禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/859.wav",
        "text": "這個差別是在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/860.wav",
        "text": "跟各位報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/861.wav",
        "text": "這個差別是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/862.wav",
        "text": "如果有這個禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/863.wav",
        "text": "我不知道交通部瞭不瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/864.wav",
        "text": "我想說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/865.wav",
        "text": "反正大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/866.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員也說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/867.wav",
        "text": "都可以自由去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/868.wav",
        "text": "也沒有規定你不能去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/869.wav",
        "text": "你想去你就去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/870.wav",
        "text": "啊但是我有跟觀光業者詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/871.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得很疑惑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/872.wav",
        "text": "我說反正每個人都可以去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/873.wav",
        "text": "有影響嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/874.wav",
        "text": "業者這樣告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/875.wav",
        "text": "或者說你們提出解決的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/876.wav",
        "text": "業者告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/877.wav",
        "text": "有這個禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/878.wav",
        "text": "如果他們帶團出去的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/879.wav",
        "text": "他們沒有辦法做什麼保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/880.wav",
        "text": "是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/881.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/882.wav",
        "text": "做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/883.wav",
        "text": "我想瞭解這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/884.wav",
        "text": "就是沒有辦法去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/885.wav",
        "text": "申請什麼旅平險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/886.wav",
        "text": "什麼險什麼險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/887.wav",
        "text": "如果去大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/888.wav",
        "text": "如果你們有這個禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/889.wav",
        "text": "因為交通部規定說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/890.wav",
        "text": "不能帶團出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/891.wav",
        "text": "業者沒有辦法向保險業者提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/892.wav",
        "text": "相關的保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/893.wav",
        "text": "如果這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/894.wav",
        "text": "可以幫他們解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/895.wav",
        "text": "其實影響不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/896.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/897.wav",
        "text": "因為每個人本來就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/898.wav",
        "text": "現在本來我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/899.wav",
        "text": "你可以自由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/900.wav",
        "text": "要去哪裡就去哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/901.wav",
        "text": "沒有規定你哪裡不能去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/902.wav",
        "text": "你想去你去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/903.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/904.wav",
        "text": "禁團令業者會一直的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/905.wav",
        "text": "我也是跟業者說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/906.wav",
        "text": "有什麼好在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/907.wav",
        "text": "爭執半天的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/908.wav",
        "text": "反正也沒有限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/909.wav",
        "text": "你不能出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/910.wav",
        "text": "是不是有這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/911.wav",
        "text": "我想這是一個爭點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/912.wav",
        "text": "啦我們在幫業者思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/913.wav",
        "text": "是不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/914.wav",
        "text": "保險這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/915.wav",
        "text": "如果可以替他們解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/916.wav",
        "text": "這是過去的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/917.wav",
        "text": "而過來的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/918.wav",
        "text": "應該也沒有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/919.wav",
        "text": "你們剛剛不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/920.wav",
        "text": "踩線團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/921.wav",
        "text": "來我們也歡迎他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/922.wav",
        "text": "到金馬澎來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/923.wav",
        "text": "參觀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/924.wav",
        "text": "這個你們也支持了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/925.wav",
        "text": "嘛剛剛我聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/926.wav",
        "text": "也都是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/927.wav",
        "text": "民進黨也是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/928.wav",
        "text": "他們到這邊來觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/929.wav",
        "text": "那這個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/930.wav",
        "text": "也沒什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/931.wav",
        "text": "我倒是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/932.wav",
        "text": "有一點點差別是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/933.wav",
        "text": "專案許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/934.wav",
        "text": "什麼事情都要專案許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/935.wav",
        "text": "你是意圖造成特權的存在嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/936.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/937.wav",
        "text": "有人講就成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/938.wav",
        "text": "沒有講就不成嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/939.wav",
        "text": "我們要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/940.wav",
        "text": "就是自由競爭的市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/941.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/942.wav",
        "text": "任何人都可以自由來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/943.wav",
        "text": "國安的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/944.wav",
        "text": "部分我們來講到國安議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/945.wav",
        "text": "你們這樣子講法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/946.wav",
        "text": "你們應該就把"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/947.wav",
        "text": "臺澎金馬整個海域鎖起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/948.wav",
        "text": "哪裡都不能去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/949.wav",
        "text": "啊因為去哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/950.wav",
        "text": "都可能會有危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/951.wav",
        "text": "啊去菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/952.wav",
        "text": "寨可能被詐騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/953.wav",
        "text": "去哪裡都不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/954.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/955.wav",
        "text": "所以不要又有那種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/956.wav",
        "text": "為之父為之母的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/957.wav",
        "text": "每個人都是成年人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/958.wav",
        "text": "每個人民都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/959.wav",
        "text": "獨立自主的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/960.wav",
        "text": "做自己想去哪裡的這個想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/961.wav",
        "text": "回答那個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/962.wav",
        "text": "請交通部回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/963.wav",
        "text": "保險的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/964.wav",
        "text": "很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/965.wav",
        "text": "是我跟委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/966.wav",
        "text": "現在那個保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/967.wav",
        "text": "如果現在出團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/968.wav",
        "text": "合法出團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/969.wav",
        "text": "你們有禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/970.wav",
        "text": "他們就不能組團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/971.wav",
        "text": "他們如果組團可以保險嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/972.wav",
        "text": "你就回答這樣就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/973.wav",
        "text": "因為是禁團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/974.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有所謂禁團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/975.wav",
        "text": "還要保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/976.wav",
        "text": "整團保險的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/977.wav",
        "text": "因為他是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/978.wav",
        "text": "如果是你個人要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/979.wav",
        "text": "本來個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/980.wav",
        "text": "個人沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/981.wav",
        "text": "個人沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/982.wav",
        "text": "所以他們就不能保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/983.wav",
        "text": "這個大原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/984.wav",
        "text": "現在是在禁團令中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/985.wav",
        "text": "所以因為禁團令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/986.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有辦法組團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/987.wav",
        "text": "如果真的有國人要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/988.wav",
        "text": "想去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/989.wav",
        "text": "他們也不能去保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/990.wav",
        "text": "造成旅遊業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/991.wav",
        "text": "操作上的困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/992.wav",
        "text": "他個人要去的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/993.wav",
        "text": "他個人就有保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/994.wav",
        "text": "團體要去呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/995.wav",
        "text": "團體現在要禁團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/996.wav",
        "text": "對嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/997.wav",
        "text": "所以禁團的差別就在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/998.wav",
        "text": "不是像剛剛民進黨委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/999.wav",
        "text": "每個人都可以自由去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1000.wav",
        "text": "喔比如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1001.wav",
        "text": "我們有一個參香團要去拜拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1002.wav",
        "text": "然讓旅遊業者來辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1003.wav",
        "text": "不可能說每個人都自己去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1004.wav",
        "text": "個人可以去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1005.wav",
        "text": "啊個人可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1006.wav",
        "text": "那你就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1007.wav",
        "text": "讓業者可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1008.wav",
        "text": "每個人用自己的身分去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1009.wav",
        "text": "然後每個人自己去保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1010.wav",
        "text": "現在業者事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1011.wav",
        "text": "就是這種操作手法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1012.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1013.wav",
        "text": "保障到國人的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1014.wav",
        "text": "你們瞭解嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1015.wav",
        "text": "實務上就是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1016.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1017.wav",
        "text": "玉珍委員已經問到答復了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1018.wav",
        "text": "講1分鐘就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1019.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1020.wav",
        "text": "各位看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1021.wav",
        "text": "憲法增修條文第4條第4項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1022.wav",
        "text": "總統為國家安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1023.wav",
        "text": "是總統的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1024.wav",
        "text": "所以立法院沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1025.wav",
        "text": "所謂優位於憲法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1026.wav",
        "text": "優位於總統職權的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1027.wav",
        "text": "這個很清楚嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1028.wav",
        "text": "我們不要再自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1029.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1030.wav",
        "text": "不要再自己打轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1031.wav",
        "text": "實在是配合中國統戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1032.wav",
        "text": "嘛這個很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1033.wav",
        "text": "絕對是堅持這種看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1034.wav",
        "text": "你沒有優位啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1035.wav",
        "text": "你可以超越憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1036.wav",
        "text": "一個決議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1037.wav",
        "text": "總統要怎麼做事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1038.wav",
        "text": "行政院做什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1039.wav",
        "text": "不要倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1040.wav",
        "text": "當然是中國大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1041.wav",
        "text": "嘛你應該去建議中國大陸才對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1042.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會建議我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1043.wav",
        "text": "我們現在休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1044.wav",
        "text": "請各黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1045.wav",
        "text": "也跟行政部門溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1046.wav",
        "text": "5分鐘之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1047.wav",
        "text": "我們開始恢復開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1048.wav",
        "text": "我就要進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1049.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1050.wav",
        "text": "就送院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1051.wav",
        "text": "有花東快跟0403"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1052.wav",
        "text": "的案子我們上禮拜講很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1053.wav",
        "text": "昨天早上我叫所有的4個部會都去跟傅總召協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1054.wav",
        "text": "得出4個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1055.wav",
        "text": "那麼我們都沒問題簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1056.wav",
        "text": "這樣簽了以後代表什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1057.wav",
        "text": "0403的案子以及花東快特別條例就撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1058.wav",
        "text": "謝謝法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1059.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部各位委員請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1060.wav",
        "text": "各位列席的官員請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1061.wav",
        "text": "麻煩現場的秩序稍微維持一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1062.wav",
        "text": "請不要再走過來走過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1063.wav",
        "text": "座謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1064.wav",
        "text": "我們今天研商中華民國刑法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1065.wav",
        "text": "第208條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1066.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1067.wav",
        "text": "第208條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1068.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1069.wav",
        "text": "審查結果第77條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1070.wav",
        "text": "增訂第207條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1071.wav",
        "text": "第208條及增訂第208條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1072.wav",
        "text": "均保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1073.wav",
        "text": "並決議院會討論前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1074.wav",
        "text": "須交由黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1075.wav",
        "text": "另院會第11次12次13次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1076.wav",
        "text": "分別逕付二讀各自自委員會抽出逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1077.wav",
        "text": "與相關提案併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1078.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團於7月11日召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1079.wav",
        "text": "由吳宗憲委員主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1080.wav",
        "text": "針對刑法第208條加重虐童刑責進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1081.wav",
        "text": "由於有黨團代表未出席討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1082.wav",
        "text": "尚未達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1083.wav",
        "text": "第77條增訂第207條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1084.wav",
        "text": "第208條及增訂第208條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1085.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在先歡迎今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1086.wav",
        "text": "列席的法務部政務次長黃次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1087.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1088.wav",
        "text": "司法院的吳秘書長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1089.wav",
        "text": "還有各位法務部跟司法院各級官員代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1090.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我們先請提案的國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1091.wav",
        "text": "表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1092.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席謝謝各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1093.wav",
        "text": "我想今天我們提案的刑法第208條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1094.wav",
        "text": "主要就是針虐童的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1095.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會提這個我跟大家分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1096.wav",
        "text": "有一個新聞就是一個女童遭受虐待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1097.wav",
        "text": "變成二層骷髏的樣子最後那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1098.wav",
        "text": "及虐童兩個理由來起訴但是在要件上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1099.wav",
        "text": "因為殺人未遂沒有成立最後變成只有虐童"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1100.wav",
        "text": "但是虐童按照現行法最重的刑度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1101.wav",
        "text": "但是因為用虐童去辦最後判出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1102.wav",
        "text": "就只有四年那我想這跟傷害罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1103.wav",
        "text": "相較現行的傷害罪針對兒童"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1104.wav",
        "text": "的部分也有加重其刑的規定但虐童"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1105.wav",
        "text": "是沒有的所以這一條我們覺得虐童的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1106.wav",
        "text": "部分當然刑期幾年我個人不堅持一定要幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1107.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得虐童在法益上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1108.wav",
        "text": "講應該要比傷害罪來得更重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1109.wav",
        "text": "跟傷害也不太一樣當初這個新聞報導裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1110.wav",
        "text": "部分而且傷害跟虐待的樣態也不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1111.wav",
        "text": "所以以虐待兒童這個樣態來講我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1112.wav",
        "text": "應該在第208條針對兒童的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1113.wav",
        "text": "的刑度去規範虐待我想虐待跟傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1114.wav",
        "text": "在構成要件上是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1115.wav",
        "text": "因此我們希望在第208條加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1116.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1117.wav",
        "text": "\n請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1118.wav",
        "text": "我記得是廖偉翔提案還有第77條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1119.wav",
        "text": "208條之1其實有好幾條我們先針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1120.wav",
        "text": "第208條說明另外兩條待會兒再說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1121.wav",
        "text": "有點不一而足所以我覺得這點應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1122.wav",
        "text": "收攏但是剛好有看到國民黨團的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1123.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨團的修正動議都是用七歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1124.wav",
        "text": "這看起來應該是一個正確的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1125.wav",
        "text": "因為在刑法上加重結果犯是故意加過失但我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1126.wav",
        "text": "通常在刑法的立法例上致死會跑到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1127.wav",
        "text": "死刑非常非常的少見只有在第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1128.wav",
        "text": "304條擄人勒贖因為它本來的刑度就已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1129.wav",
        "text": "非常高所以才會在致死有死刑的規定所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1130.wav",
        "text": "在這邊致死有死刑的規定可能不符合立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1131.wav",
        "text": "例甚至有一些委員的規定比殺人還重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1132.wav",
        "text": "那就變成一個道德危險就是不殺人還比較重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1133.wav",
        "text": "那他還不如不要去做這些事情\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1134.wav",
        "text": "再來就是第208條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1135.wav",
        "text": "第208條之1有一個重複評價的問題等一下討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1136.wav",
        "text": "修正動議跟民眾黨黨團的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1137.wav",
        "text": "我先講民眾黨黨團的修正動議規定未滿七歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1138.wav",
        "text": "這是一個比較快速的立法方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1139.wav",
        "text": "這個加重的方式會跟兒少法的第一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1140.wav",
        "text": "第一百十二條會有一個不能說衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1141.wav",
        "text": "但就是兒少法第一百十二條也有加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1142.wav",
        "text": "所以或許等一下可以看法務部能不能夠幫個忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1143.wav",
        "text": "做出區別我覺得這是一個至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1144.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團的修正動議就會有我剛剛講的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1145.wav",
        "text": "雖然前面用未滿七歲之未成年人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1146.wav",
        "text": "犯七年以上這是一種加重但後面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1147.wav",
        "text": "因而致人於死者直接走到死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1148.wav",
        "text": "跟整個刑法的立法例和刑度平均的方式不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1149.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得我們可能可以從民眾黨黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1150.wav",
        "text": "來做討論謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1151.wav",
        "text": "謝謝沈伯洋委員的發言\n接下來請台灣民眾黨黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1152.wav",
        "text": "主席還有各位黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1153.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團針對第208條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1154.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的修正動議我們基本上是肯認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1155.wav",
        "text": "對於七歲以下的未成年人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1156.wav",
        "text": "不管是他保護自己的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1157.wav",
        "text": "或者是對於他進行凌虐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1158.wav",
        "text": "所造成的傷害都更為嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1159.wav",
        "text": "因此針對七歲以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1160.wav",
        "text": "其他委員所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1161.wav",
        "text": "規定對於七歲以下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1162.wav",
        "text": "要進一步地保護加重其處罰的這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1163.wav",
        "text": "我們是認同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1164.wav",
        "text": "只不過在立法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1165.wav",
        "text": "我們會去做這樣子的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1166.wav",
        "text": "是因為有很多不同的版本彼此之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1167.wav",
        "text": "它沒有一個統一合邏輯的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1168.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1169.wav",
        "text": "用加重其刑二分之一的方式去強化其處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1170.wav",
        "text": "\n至於兒少法那邊加重其刑的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1171.wav",
        "text": "我的理解應該沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1172.wav",
        "text": "啦兒少法那邊的規定是用在普通傷害罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1173.wav",
        "text": "我們之前實務上所發生的問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1174.wav",
        "text": "普通傷害罪加上兒少法的二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1175.wav",
        "text": "做了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1176.wav",
        "text": "然後第208條到底還有多少適用的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1177.wav",
        "text": "\n上次在詢答的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1178.wav",
        "text": "我也跟法務部官員有做過意見的交換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1179.wav",
        "text": "你們後來也去做了意見的整理出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1180.wav",
        "text": "所以在第208條這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1181.wav",
        "text": "不會有兒少法那邊加重其刑二分之一的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1182.wav",
        "text": "我想這個應該沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1183.wav",
        "text": "根本就不存在這樣子的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1184.wav",
        "text": "兒少法的二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1185.wav",
        "text": "是跟普通傷害罪第207條聯結在一起的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1186.wav",
        "text": "第208條因為本來就針對保護的客體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1187.wav",
        "text": "做特別的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1188.wav",
        "text": "所以就不會有兒少法那邊規範的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1189.wav",
        "text": "現行實務上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1190.wav",
        "text": "這已經是一個非常穩定的運作狀態了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1191.wav",
        "text": "我想這個討論應該是清楚的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1192.wav",
        "text": "\n只不過在立法的政策上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1193.wav",
        "text": "針對一定歲數以下的幼童"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1194.wav",
        "text": "因為當初我們擴大保護到未滿十八歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1195.wav",
        "text": "我覺得從國際潮流的角度上面來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1196.wav",
        "text": "這是沒有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1197.wav",
        "text": "但你說凌虐一個高中生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1198.wav",
        "text": "跟凌虐一個還在幼兒園的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1199.wav",
        "text": "給他相同法定刑的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1200.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的立法政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1201.wav",
        "text": "是不是有重新檢討的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1202.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該給七歲以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1203.wav",
        "text": "更沒有能力保護自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1204.wav",
        "text": "他所造成的實害會更嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1205.wav",
        "text": "從刑法上面的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1206.wav",
        "text": "給他更重的處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1207.wav",
        "text": "讓法官有更多的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1208.wav",
        "text": "去給他做比較重的處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1209.wav",
        "text": "才不會出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1210.wav",
        "text": "剛剛黃健豪委員所在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1211.wav",
        "text": "法官竟然在判決書裡面講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1212.wav",
        "text": "講得好像是立法者的錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1213.wav",
        "text": "我想我們肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1214.wav",
        "text": "其他委員針對第208條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1215.wav",
        "text": "他們要加重處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1216.wav",
        "text": "用意良善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1217.wav",
        "text": "這個方向基本上我們也肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1218.wav",
        "text": "只不過在立法的技術上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1219.wav",
        "text": "我們認為要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1220.wav",
        "text": "針對要強化保護的客體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1221.wav",
        "text": "用一個統一的規定來強化保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1222.wav",
        "text": "提出這樣子的一個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1223.wav",
        "text": "也供各位黨團還有其他委員考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1224.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1225.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是鍾佳濱委員發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1226.wav",
        "text": "就請法務部以及司法院來回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1227.wav",
        "text": "回應之後我們會再請委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1228.wav",
        "text": "發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1229.wav",
        "text": "我們就會敲5分鐘左右的協商時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1230.wav",
        "text": "程序\n請鍾佳濱委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1231.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1232.wav",
        "text": "我們欣見目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1233.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1234.wav",
        "text": "和國民黨黨團修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1235.wav",
        "text": "大方向趨向一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1236.wav",
        "text": "這點我們是予以肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1237.wav",
        "text": "至於目前國民黨黨團的動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1238.wav",
        "text": "它在最後新增一項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1239.wav",
        "text": "之所以列入死刑這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1240.wav",
        "text": "跟一般的殺人罪等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1241.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們沈伯洋委員已經說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1242.wav",
        "text": "恐怕在刑度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1243.wav",
        "text": "跟整個刑法整體體例的均衡性上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1244.wav",
        "text": "似乎不太適當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1245.wav",
        "text": "\n我這裡要強調的是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1246.wav",
        "text": "在國民黨黨團修正動議最後一項當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1247.wav",
        "text": "它也將第1項跟第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1248.wav",
        "text": "的意圖營利與否並沒有作區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1249.wav",
        "text": "這一點我們很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1250.wav",
        "text": "在原來第208條的第1項當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1251.wav",
        "text": "它是六月以上五年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1252.wav",
        "text": "但是意圖營利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1253.wav",
        "text": "者就直接跳到五年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1254.wav",
        "text": "未滿七歲犯第1項及第2項之罪者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1255.wav",
        "text": "刑度卻是相同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1256.wav",
        "text": "這一點可能我們可以再斟酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1257.wav",
        "text": "可以把它做個區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1258.wav",
        "text": "\n如果用這個角度來看台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1259.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨他們在第5項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1260.wav",
        "text": "直接是用加重其刑至二分之一的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1261.wav",
        "text": "這個方向上就符合了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1262.wav",
        "text": "原第1項第2項所作的區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1263.wav",
        "text": "可能比較能夠符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1264.wav",
        "text": "我們目前對七歲以下的保護原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1265.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛有提到兒少法第一百十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1266.wav",
        "text": "這裡面因為對兒少的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1267.wav",
        "text": "在我們這裡跟七歲以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1268.wav",
        "text": "的定義有所不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1269.wav",
        "text": "在兒少法當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1270.wav",
        "text": "未滿十二歲的是兒童"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1271.wav",
        "text": "十二歲以上未滿十八歲的是少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1272.wav",
        "text": "但我們這裡是區分成七歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1273.wav",
        "text": "第一百十二條加重其刑二分之一的方式之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1274.wav",
        "text": "的一個差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1275.wav",
        "text": "那未來我們是否可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1276.wav",
        "text": "特別針對未滿七歲以下的加強保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1277.wav",
        "text": "對他的法益予以強化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1278.wav",
        "text": "這個部分希望待會兒法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1279.wav",
        "text": "能夠就這個部分予以闡明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1280.wav",
        "text": "\n原則上個人認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1281.wav",
        "text": "目前台灣民眾黨所增列的第5項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1282.wav",
        "text": "以未滿七歲來作為加重其刑二分之一的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1283.wav",
        "text": "是予以肯認的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1284.wav",
        "text": "但是跟兒少法第一百十二條當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1285.wav",
        "text": "加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1286.wav",
        "text": "一個是未滿十八歲一個是未滿七歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1287.wav",
        "text": "在量刑上如何區隔出特別的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1288.wav",
        "text": "這點希望法務部能夠做一個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1289.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鍾佳濱委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1290.wav",
        "text": "現在請法務部黃次長主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1291.wav",
        "text": "席還有大院各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1292.wav",
        "text": "剛才大家都有垂詢我先做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1293.wav",
        "text": "有關兒少法第一百十二條的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1294.wav",
        "text": "跟本條之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1295.wav",
        "text": "我想之前也講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1296.wav",
        "text": "最主要是兒少法第一百十二條第一項的但書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1297.wav",
        "text": "規定但各該罪就被害人係兒童及少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1298.wav",
        "text": "已定有特別處罰規定者從其規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1299.wav",
        "text": "因為我們整個刑法第二百八十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1300.wav",
        "text": "是規定對於未滿十八歲之人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1301.wav",
        "text": "所以客體剛好就落入了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1302.wav",
        "text": "第一百十二條但書的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1303.wav",
        "text": "也就是現在實務上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1304.wav",
        "text": "確實在適用第二百八十六條的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1305.wav",
        "text": "並沒有辦法再援引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1306.wav",
        "text": "兒少法第一百十二條重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1307.wav",
        "text": "各黨所提出來的修正動議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1308.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨團所提出來的第五項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1309.wav",
        "text": "跟兒少法第一百十二條不會重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1310.wav",
        "text": "這是目前實務上的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1311.wav",
        "text": "\n針對國民黨剛剛提出來的這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1312.wav",
        "text": "我們也做一些說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1313.wav",
        "text": "我們認為從未滿六歲改成未滿七歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1314.wav",
        "text": "因為七歲現在也是我們很多的法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1315.wav",
        "text": "作為區隔的一個年齡層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1316.wav",
        "text": "譬如民法裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1317.wav",
        "text": "無行為能力到限制行為能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1318.wav",
        "text": "同時在我們目前的學制上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1319.wav",
        "text": "應該也是滿七歲上小學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1320.wav",
        "text": "會有一個很大的區隔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1321.wav",
        "text": "以七歲做一個分隔點的案件數量的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1322.wav",
        "text": "也有顯著的差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1323.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個情況底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1324.wav",
        "text": "我們認為七歲是一個比較好的區隔的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1325.wav",
        "text": "還是如同國民黨黨團的提案分別來定這個刑度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1326.wav",
        "text": "我們會建議用加重比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1327.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨黨團目前的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1328.wav",
        "text": "對於犯第1項及第2項之罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1329.wav",
        "text": "如果我們加重至二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1330.wav",
        "text": "其實最重已經超過這一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1331.wav",
        "text": "了如果是結合犯的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1332.wav",
        "text": "就是因而致人於死或致重傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1333.wav",
        "text": "這個目前所列的刑度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1334.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1335.wav",
        "text": "是不是統一用加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1336.wav",
        "text": "至二分之一這樣的立法例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1337.wav",
        "text": "會比較周詳比較符合比例原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1338.wav",
        "text": "以上是目前我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1339.wav",
        "text": "現有的修正動議版本的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1340.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃次長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1341.wav",
        "text": "接下來請司法院吳秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1342.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員各位先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1343.wav",
        "text": "關於刑法第208條的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1344.wav",
        "text": "這幾天我們跟法務部也都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1345.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛法務部的意見我們是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1346.wav",
        "text": "就是從罪責相當原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1347.wav",
        "text": "還有刑法分則的刑度體例來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1348.wav",
        "text": "我們是同意法務部的見解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1349.wav",
        "text": "其實這跟今天台灣民眾黨所提修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1350.wav",
        "text": "議的意旨都是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1351.wav",
        "text": "只是文字上如何讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1352.wav",
        "text": "跟一般刑法規定的體例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1353.wav",
        "text": "能夠讓它更精簡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1354.wav",
        "text": "其實內容都一樣意旨是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1355.wav",
        "text": "所以司法院是同意法務部的意見謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1356.wav",
        "text": "請黃次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1357.wav",
        "text": "剛剛謝謝司法院秘書長所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1358.wav",
        "text": "我們可以來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1359.wav",
        "text": "把它跟刑法其他條文的文字體例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1360.wav",
        "text": "例一致化再提供給大院做參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1361.wav",
        "text": "看到法務部跟司法院意見一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1362.wav",
        "text": "我們說不出來的高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1363.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請莊瑞雄委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1364.wav",
        "text": "請楊瓊瓔委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1365.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長以及各位協商代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1366.wav",
        "text": "其實我倒是這樣建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1367.wav",
        "text": "法務部跟司法院在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1368.wav",
        "text": "不要不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1369.wav",
        "text": "針對這些委員或各政黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1370.wav",
        "text": "你們就把它全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1371.wav",
        "text": "當成一個法學教育提出來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1372.wav",
        "text": "這個裡面講的寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1373.wav",
        "text": "其實從立法者的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1374.wav",
        "text": "可以想像他的初衷是要幹什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1375.wav",
        "text": "就是很討厭這種犯罪要把它加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1376.wav",
        "text": "可是這有些都亂訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1377.wav",
        "text": "而且你們也都沒有盡到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1378.wav",
        "text": "在整個刑法體系裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1379.wav",
        "text": "稍微去跟他們釋疑也有什"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1380.wav",
        "text": "有什麼年齡區隔有三歲的也有六歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1381.wav",
        "text": "然後整個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1382.wav",
        "text": "在我們的刑法裡面你也不會看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1383.wav",
        "text": "有什麼一年以上八年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1384.wav",
        "text": "一年以上十年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1385.wav",
        "text": "五年以上十年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1386.wav",
        "text": "還有十年以上十二年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1387.wav",
        "text": "這個都已經亂寫一通了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1388.wav",
        "text": "又不好意思去講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1389.wav",
        "text": "本來在我們的體例裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1390.wav",
        "text": "就有一定的級距在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1391.wav",
        "text": "讓大家在這裡拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1392.wav",
        "text": "\n其實有一些條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1393.wav",
        "text": "有關致死的部分加重結果犯的刑度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1394.wav",
        "text": "就直接說這違反比例原則就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1395.wav",
        "text": "那他一定是前面有一個故意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1396.wav",
        "text": "後面有一個過失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1397.wav",
        "text": "你後面也弄到全部都是死刑的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1398.wav",
        "text": "就等於跟故意犯殺人罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1399.wav",
        "text": "一模一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1400.wav",
        "text": "這聽起來就覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1401.wav",
        "text": "這個部分草案去增訂未滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1402.wav",
        "text": "一定年齡說三歲到六歲以下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1403.wav",
        "text": "第208條的加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1404.wav",
        "text": "這個都缺乏立法的依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1405.wav",
        "text": "我先作這樣子的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1406.wav",
        "text": "國民黨版草案這邊的參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1407.wav",
        "text": "也可以因為你講到未滿六歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1408.wav",
        "text": "林思銘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1409.wav",
        "text": "可能你就必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1410.wav",
        "text": "改了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1411.wav",
        "text": "改了喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1412.wav",
        "text": "讓人家看不懂的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1413.wav",
        "text": "會提出來本來就是很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1414.wav",
        "text": "從這個過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1415.wav",
        "text": "我可以看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1416.wav",
        "text": "我要凸顯一下就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1417.wav",
        "text": "大家都要回應民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1418.wav",
        "text": "這是一件好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1419.wav",
        "text": "但是在提案版本的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1420.wav",
        "text": "拜託真的也不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1421.wav",
        "text": "亂寫一通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1422.wav",
        "text": "我們弄了一個從過去到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1423.wav",
        "text": "全世界都一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1424.wav",
        "text": "或者犯重罪三振條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1425.wav",
        "text": "的部分或者性犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1426.wav",
        "text": "再評估危險犯部分沒有顯著降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1427.wav",
        "text": "這些人不得假釋以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1428.wav",
        "text": "這是我們立法院所訂的確立這樣的一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1429.wav",
        "text": "大家已經爭論過很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1430.wav",
        "text": "擴大成有這一些的全部都不能假釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1431.wav",
        "text": "這個好像也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1432.wav",
        "text": "很奇怪失去整個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1433.wav",
        "text": "那個人萬一有一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1434.wav",
        "text": "只是因為現在民氣可用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1435.wav",
        "text": "所以把這個路全部堵掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1436.wav",
        "text": "我真的期期以為不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1437.wav",
        "text": "年齡的部分真的不要亂訂我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1438.wav",
        "text": "奇怪我學過的民法和刑法不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1439.wav",
        "text": "怎麼看到的草案和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1440.wav",
        "text": "原來的都完全不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1441.wav",
        "text": "\n至於台灣民眾黨所提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1442.wav",
        "text": "幾乎大家趨近於一個想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1443.wav",
        "text": "之未成年人犯第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1444.wav",
        "text": "第2項及第4項之罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1445.wav",
        "text": "二分之一的話我倒認為這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1446.wav",
        "text": "就可以討論我覺得很合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1447.wav",
        "text": "謝謝莊瑞雄委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1448.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請楊瓊瓔委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1449.wav",
        "text": "請林思銘委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1450.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1451.wav",
        "text": "我真的超感動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1452.wav",
        "text": "剛剛司法院及法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1453.wav",
        "text": "次長誠如主席所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1454.wav",
        "text": "大家方向是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1455.wav",
        "text": "但是我也建請因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1456.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1457.wav",
        "text": "也都非常地用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1458.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1459.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨的版本國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1460.wav",
        "text": "及民進黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1461.wav",
        "text": "修正動議都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1462.wav",
        "text": "在大家的桌上這次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1463.wav",
        "text": "目前的社會現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1464.wav",
        "text": "是必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1465.wav",
        "text": "這些孩子都是我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1466.wav",
        "text": "寶貝坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1467.wav",
        "text": "我們如果對這個年齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1468.wav",
        "text": "約束清楚在刑責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1469.wav",
        "text": "方面也會有所模稜兩可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1470.wav",
        "text": "所以今天民眾黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1471.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的版本以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1472.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1473.wav",
        "text": "修正動議最後都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1474.wav",
        "text": "這三份當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1475.wav",
        "text": "看清楚因為在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1476.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的版本當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1477.wav",
        "text": "七歲之未成年人犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1478.wav",
        "text": "第1項及第2項之罪者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1479.wav",
        "text": "因而致人於死者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1480.wav",
        "text": "處死刑無期徒刑或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1481.wav",
        "text": "十年以上有期徒刑致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1482.wav",
        "text": "致重傷者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1483.wav",
        "text": "處無期徒刑或十年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1484.wav",
        "text": "有期徒刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1485.wav",
        "text": "我們提出這樣的論點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1486.wav",
        "text": "大家應當就針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1487.wav",
        "text": "但是我非常感動的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1488.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1489.wav",
        "text": "大家都有一致性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1490.wav",
        "text": "現行的法律並不足以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1491.wav",
        "text": "安定民心保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1492.wav",
        "text": "我們的孩童所以我們還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1493.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠在大家共同討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1494.wav",
        "text": "能夠幫助社會大眾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1495.wav",
        "text": "修正草案我也非常希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1496.wav",
        "text": "今天大家針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1497.wav",
        "text": "不管年齡或者加重處罰的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1498.wav",
        "text": "都能有一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1499.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1500.wav",
        "text": "謝謝楊瓊瓔委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1501.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請林思銘委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1502.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1503.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長今天很高興看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1504.wav",
        "text": "不管是民進黨民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1505.wav",
        "text": "對第208條相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1506.wav",
        "text": "修正我想大家的意見其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1507.wav",
        "text": "大概都差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1508.wav",
        "text": "修要加重其刑大家都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1509.wav",
        "text": "意見一致我想這是立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1510.wav",
        "text": "技術的問題就是對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1511.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣加重其刑度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1512.wav",
        "text": "民進黨民眾黨或法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1513.wav",
        "text": "都認為加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1514.wav",
        "text": "至二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1515.wav",
        "text": "雖然國民黨的版本跟大家不太"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1516.wav",
        "text": "一樣但是我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1517.wav",
        "text": "尊重法務部尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1518.wav",
        "text": "我們會提出相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1519.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘委員\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1520.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1521.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1522.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1523.wav",
        "text": "我想現在討論起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1524.wav",
        "text": "大致應該會趨近於一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1525.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1526.wav",
        "text": "版本已經改成七歲是沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1527.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1528.wav",
        "text": "有死刑無期徒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1529.wav",
        "text": "徒刑現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1530.wav",
        "text": "現在桌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1531.wav",
        "text": "桌子上有民眾黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1532.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的版本以及國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1533.wav",
        "text": "既然剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1534.wav",
        "text": "林思銘講大家可以來調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1535.wav",
        "text": "總則沒有改你去改分則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1536.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣的刑度有死刑是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1537.wav",
        "text": "大家假如趨於一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1538.wav",
        "text": "共同提案就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1539.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1540.wav",
        "text": "共同提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1541.wav",
        "text": "這樣比較快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1542.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1543.wav",
        "text": "徐巧芯委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1544.wav",
        "text": "我簡短發言就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1545.wav",
        "text": "因為我剛剛在做結論的時候就有說可以從民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1546.wav",
        "text": "及後來我們提的這個版本來做修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1547.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得剛剛黃國昌委員可能有點誤會我的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1548.wav",
        "text": "我們都知道第一百十二條有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1549.wav",
        "text": "以傷害去加重刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1550.wav",
        "text": "刑度其實是不合的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1551.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1552.wav",
        "text": "要問法務部如果你用下面這個加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1553.wav",
        "text": "跟你用第一項第二項重新調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1554.wav",
        "text": "刑度是不是請法務部來說明看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1555.wav",
        "text": "當然我還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1556.wav",
        "text": "覺得說真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1557.wav",
        "text": "因為凌虐跟傷害的定義是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1558.wav",
        "text": "差距的在這個狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1559.wav",
        "text": "法定刑的刑度所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1560.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個方式補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1561.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1562.wav",
        "text": "顯然好像有點誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1563.wav",
        "text": "謝謝沈伯洋委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1564.wav",
        "text": "再剩下兩位委員發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1565.wav",
        "text": "我必須要喊休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1566.wav",
        "text": "讓大家溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1567.wav",
        "text": "也跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1568.wav",
        "text": "我們就暫時截止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1569.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請徐巧芯委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1570.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1571.wav",
        "text": "大家不管是國民黨民眾黨跟民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1572.wav",
        "text": "都有一個在修法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1573.wav",
        "text": "比較多的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1574.wav",
        "text": "但是我同時也要主張一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1575.wav",
        "text": "在原本國民黨黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1576.wav",
        "text": "修正動議裡面提到包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1577.wav",
        "text": "是死刑跟無期徒刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1578.wav",
        "text": "以及十年以上有期徒刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1579.wav",
        "text": "這個部分當初會提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1580.wav",
        "text": "是因應民眾的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1581.wav",
        "text": "也就是對於我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1582.wav",
        "text": "立法技術上面來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1583.wav",
        "text": "我們用所謂的加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1584.wav",
        "text": "其刑二分之一這是一個法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1585.wav",
        "text": "上的文字但是我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1586.wav",
        "text": "大多數的民眾也是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1587.wav",
        "text": "如果有凌虐兒童致死的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1588.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不把他判死刑呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1589.wav",
        "text": "所以我想雖然在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1590.wav",
        "text": "這一次的立法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1591.wav",
        "text": "我們國民黨民進黨民眾黨最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1592.wav",
        "text": "可能可以達到一個共識叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1593.wav",
        "text": "加重其刑至二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1594.wav",
        "text": "這是一個修法技術但對一般"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1595.wav",
        "text": "普羅大眾而言大家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1596.wav",
        "text": "期待是關於死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1597.wav",
        "text": "無期徒刑而且是重罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1598.wav",
        "text": "這一點我想我們今天還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1599.wav",
        "text": "要強力的表述謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1600.wav",
        "text": "謝謝徐巧芯委員接下來請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1601.wav",
        "text": "林月琴委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1602.wav",
        "text": "在修兒少權法的時候就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1603.wav",
        "text": "條我覺得真的要去考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1604.wav",
        "text": "當時事實上國民黨就有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1605.wav",
        "text": "死刑可是那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1606.wav",
        "text": "為什麼沒有因為修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1607.wav",
        "text": "有時候是一刀兩面刃也要去兼顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1608.wav",
        "text": "另外一方的需求因為過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1609.wav",
        "text": "不管是龔重安或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1610.wav",
        "text": "湯姆熊案他們都是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1611.wav",
        "text": "認為今天我殺了孩子之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1612.wav",
        "text": "政府會判我死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1613.wav",
        "text": "所以我就去對孩子動了手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1614.wav",
        "text": "這可能要去考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1615.wav",
        "text": "後來108年修正之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1616.wav",
        "text": "的確後來事實上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1617.wav",
        "text": "有讓我們的刑度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1618.wav",
        "text": "調高之後的確有果效的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1619.wav",
        "text": "不要再去用死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1620.wav",
        "text": "更大的傷害這一併都要去考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1621.wav",
        "text": "不是單一面的只考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1622.wav",
        "text": "當傷害孩子的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1623.wav",
        "text": "我們用重刑可是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1624.wav",
        "text": "有沒有引發另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1625.wav",
        "text": "更大的傷害這一併要考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1626.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是期待是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1627.wav",
        "text": "我們這次是加重二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1628.wav",
        "text": "否則108年討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1629.wav",
        "text": "為什麼民團這麼反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1630.wav",
        "text": "我覺得背後有它的原因所在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1631.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1632.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1633.wav",
        "text": "我們現在三黨協商結果已經出爐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1634.wav",
        "text": "刑法第208條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1635.wav",
        "text": "第1項至第4項未修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1636.wav",
        "text": "增訂第5項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1637.wav",
        "text": "對於未滿七歲之人犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1638.wav",
        "text": "前四項之罪者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1639.wav",
        "text": "依各該項之規定加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1640.wav",
        "text": "至二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1641.wav",
        "text": "我們依照協商的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1642.wav",
        "text": "修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1643.wav",
        "text": "\n現在處理第77條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1644.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1645.wav",
        "text": "提案委員廖偉翔委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1646.wav",
        "text": "各位好我們當初提案是修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1647.wav",
        "text": "1基本上概念上也跟今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1648.wav",
        "text": "主要的方向一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1649.wav",
        "text": "手無縛雞之力的孩童受到這樣的傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1650.wav",
        "text": "都是我們應該要予以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1651.wav",
        "text": "保障和提高嚇阻行為的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1652.wav",
        "text": "在這一次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1653.wav",
        "text": "可以儘速地讓我們的刑責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1654.wav",
        "text": "嚇阻效力提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1655.wav",
        "text": "1這個部分但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1656.wav",
        "text": "我們還是希望未來如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1657.wav",
        "text": "法務部在統計這個數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1658.wav",
        "text": "在立法技術上體例上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1659.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要堅持這件事可是未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1660.wav",
        "text": "如果社會還是持續發生這樣的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1661.wav",
        "text": "這個案量並沒有下降的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1662.wav",
        "text": "我們未來不排除再更進一步的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1663.wav",
        "text": "謝謝廖偉翔委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1664.wav",
        "text": "予以尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1665.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1666.wav",
        "text": "我們就決定不予修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1667.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1668.wav",
        "text": "我們一樣不予"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1669.wav",
        "text": "增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1670.wav",
        "text": "\n增訂第208條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1671.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉等28位委員提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1672.wav",
        "text": "請蘇清泉委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1673.wav",
        "text": "撤案啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1674.wav",
        "text": "撤案啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1675.wav",
        "text": "好那就不予增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1676.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1677.wav",
        "text": "一樣不堅持了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1678.wav",
        "text": "第208條之1不予增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1679.wav",
        "text": "\n現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1680.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團各位委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1681.wav",
        "text": "也跟列席的官員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1682.wav",
        "text": "一第77條不予修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1683.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1684.wav",
        "text": "二增訂第207條之1及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1685.wav",
        "text": "第208條之1均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1686.wav",
        "text": "不予增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1687.wav",
        "text": "三第208條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1688.wav",
        "text": "照協商內容通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1689.wav",
        "text": "院長等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1690.wav",
        "text": "有程序性問題我先講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1691.wav",
        "text": "因為今天早上我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1692.wav",
        "text": "既然大家共同是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1693.wav",
        "text": "的我們的案子就撤下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1694.wav",
        "text": "我們有送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1695.wav",
        "text": "增訂以及第2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1696.wav",
        "text": "08條都有送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1697.wav",
        "text": "我們就撤案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1698.wav",
        "text": "共同提案就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1699.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1700.wav",
        "text": "謝謝司法院吳秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1701.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃次長謝謝司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1702.wav",
        "text": "警察人員人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1703.wav",
        "text": "修正第35條條文及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1704.wav",
        "text": "增訂附表三草案等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1705.wav",
        "text": "法務部的次長對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1706.wav",
        "text": "黃次長我們剛才黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1707.wav",
        "text": "都有一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1708.wav",
        "text": "麻煩下次朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1709.wav",
        "text": "請部長來一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1710.wav",
        "text": "好不好請轉達一下鄭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1711.wav",
        "text": "因為大家黨團幹部都希望部長本人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1712.wav",
        "text": "能夠來出席好嗎請您轉達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1713.wav",
        "text": "不來要向院長請假好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1714.wav",
        "text": "下次我本人親自參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1715.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1716.wav",
        "text": "到會的官員請趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1717.wav",
        "text": "就座各位列席的官員請就座各位黨團幹部各位委員請就座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1718.wav",
        "text": "我們爭取時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1719.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1720.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團幹部還有各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1721.wav",
        "text": "我們今天研商警察人員人事條例修正第35條條文及增訂附表三草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1722.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制內政兩委員會併案審查蘇清泉等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1723.wav",
        "text": "萬美玲等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1724.wav",
        "text": "謝龍介等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1725.wav",
        "text": "王鴻薇等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1726.wav",
        "text": "丁學忠等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1727.wav",
        "text": "顏寬恒等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1728.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1729.wav",
        "text": "林思銘等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1730.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1731.wav",
        "text": "王鴻薇委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1732.wav",
        "text": "游顥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1733.wav",
        "text": "張智倫委員等提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1734.wav",
        "text": "審查會於113年6月13日審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1735.wav",
        "text": "審查情形第35條及增訂附表三保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1736.wav",
        "text": "其餘均有審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1737.wav",
        "text": "並決議院會討論前須交由黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1738.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團於7月11日召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1739.wav",
        "text": "由吳宗憲召集委員主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1740.wav",
        "text": "針對警察人員人事條例修正第35條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1741.wav",
        "text": "調整警察人員退休所得替代率進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1742.wav",
        "text": "由於有黨團代表未出席討論尚未達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1743.wav",
        "text": "\n現在先介紹今天列席所有的閣員與官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1744.wav",
        "text": "首先我們介紹內政部劉部長熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1745.wav",
        "text": "警政署張署長歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1746.wav",
        "text": "消防署蕭署長歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1747.wav",
        "text": "其他官員我就不一一介紹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1748.wav",
        "text": "歡迎大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1749.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在請各黨團表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1750.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團所提議的請牛煦庭委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1751.wav",
        "text": "請民進黨團準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1752.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1753.wav",
        "text": "我想過去審查相關條例的一些答詢過程之中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1754.wav",
        "text": "大家都把話講得非常的清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1755.wav",
        "text": "也就是我們的警察跟消防弟兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1756.wav",
        "text": "基本上在工作的性質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1757.wav",
        "text": "跟一般的公務員顯有巨大的落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1758.wav",
        "text": "在殉職跟公傷的比例也皆高於一般的公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1759.wav",
        "text": "第三考量相關工作環境的嚴酷跟高風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1760.wav",
        "text": "也比較常出現所謂的危勞早退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1761.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的一個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1762.wav",
        "text": "針對實務上發生的這些情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1763.wav",
        "text": "我們按照現行的退休金計算基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1764.wav",
        "text": "如果只是單純準用現行的公務人員退休基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1765.wav",
        "text": "我想對於比較辛苦的警消弟兄來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1766.wav",
        "text": "是相對不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1767.wav",
        "text": "因此本黨非常多的委員提出了相關的修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1768.wav",
        "text": "針對最低所得替代率年增率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1769.wav",
        "text": "提出了若干的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1770.wav",
        "text": "當然在答詢委員會審查及朝野協商時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1771.wav",
        "text": "並未達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1772.wav",
        "text": "但是我們依然主張最低的所得替代率應予調升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1773.wav",
        "text": "年增率應予調升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1774.wav",
        "text": "有關最高所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1775.wav",
        "text": "倒是可以酌情辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1776.wav",
        "text": "因為不管是考量社會觀感也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1777.wav",
        "text": "或者是以各黨團儘量達成共識的角度出發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1778.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠逐步的做檢討跟改進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1779.wav",
        "text": "\n我們的目標非常單純"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1780.wav",
        "text": "照顧基層的警消弟兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1781.wav",
        "text": "維持信賴保護原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1782.wav",
        "text": "讓他們有應有的退休尊嚴跟待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1783.wav",
        "text": "希望在今天院長主持的朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1784.wav",
        "text": "中大家能夠捐棄成見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1785.wav",
        "text": "儘快的達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1786.wav",
        "text": "以上說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1787.wav",
        "text": "謝謝牛煦庭委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1788.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請吳思瑤委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1789.wav",
        "text": "請柯建銘委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1790.wav",
        "text": "請台灣民眾黨準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1791.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1792.wav",
        "text": "各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1793.wav",
        "text": "大家都非常理性的談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1794.wav",
        "text": "也解決不少問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1795.wav",
        "text": "關於警察人員人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1796.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道在委員會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1797.wav",
        "text": "大家都沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1798.wav",
        "text": "這個警察人員條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1799.wav",
        "text": "他們還沒有討論就不處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1800.wav",
        "text": "是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1801.wav",
        "text": "我以為今天就不處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1802.wav",
        "text": "今天要處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1803.wav",
        "text": "我還是要在這裡講幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1804.wav",
        "text": "大家來想看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1805.wav",
        "text": "到底我們今天這樣的處理是可以的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1806.wav",
        "text": "有沒有符合公平正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1807.wav",
        "text": "從第一點來講關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1808.wav",
        "text": "關於警察危勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1809.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止已經給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1810.wav",
        "text": "們比一般的公務人員多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1811.wav",
        "text": "公務人員平均是5萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1812.wav",
        "text": "他們已經比較多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1813.wav",
        "text": "然後因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1814.wav",
        "text": "是在處理警察危勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1815.wav",
        "text": "退休也可以早10年退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1816.wav",
        "text": "等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1817.wav",
        "text": "事實上相對危勞的也很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1818.wav",
        "text": "比如說醫護人員危勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1819.wav",
        "text": "警消人員發動很大的抗爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1820.wav",
        "text": "最後法還是通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1821.wav",
        "text": "該處理的有去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1822.wav",
        "text": "了不能比照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1823.wav",
        "text": "他們要比照軍人嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1824.wav",
        "text": "假如警察要比照軍人的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1825.wav",
        "text": "坦白講對一般公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1826.wav",
        "text": "的公平性是發生很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1827.wav",
        "text": "我們要講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1828.wav",
        "text": "退休以後就沒有危勞的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1829.wav",
        "text": "本來就已經給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1830.wav",
        "text": "再加一萬多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1831.wav",
        "text": "變成七萬多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1832.wav",
        "text": "我們要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1833.wav",
        "text": "未來政府要多付了3,117億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1834.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1835.wav",
        "text": "政府要多付錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1836.wav",
        "text": "另外退休金要挹注的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1837.wav",
        "text": "又少了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1838.wav",
        "text": "少了1,093億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1839.wav",
        "text": "這種結果會造成什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1840.wav",
        "text": "基金支出又要增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1841.wav",
        "text": "年金當然提早破產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1842.wav",
        "text": "也是世代正義的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1843.wav",
        "text": "現在又要反改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1844.wav",
        "text": "然後整個提早破產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1845.wav",
        "text": "我們對年輕世代要怎麼交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1846.wav",
        "text": "整個基金將來的提早退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1847.wav",
        "text": "這裡面又牽涉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1848.wav",
        "text": "我還是要講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1849.wav",
        "text": "雖然這樣講大家會覺得不高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1850.wav",
        "text": "我要講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1851.wav",
        "text": "呢還是回到憲法層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1852.wav",
        "text": "政府減少支出這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1853.wav",
        "text": "然後另外違反憲法第7條的平等原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1854.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1855.wav",
        "text": "公務人員和警消的平等原則差距太大了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1856.wav",
        "text": "我們既然已經給他照顧了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1857.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點大家要特別想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1858.wav",
        "text": "而且這也違反財政紀律法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1859.wav",
        "text": "我認為大家都想做好人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1860.wav",
        "text": "但是做好人不能違憲違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1861.wav",
        "text": "而且失去公平原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1862.wav",
        "text": "世代爭議會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1863.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是建議大家冷靜想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1864.wav",
        "text": "這個難道要表決嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1865.wav",
        "text": "假如說這個可以不處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1866.wav",
        "text": "我們大家不應該處理但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1867.wav",
        "text": "但最後一定要表決的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1868.wav",
        "text": "我會尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1869.wav",
        "text": "請大家冷靜想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1870.wav",
        "text": "謝謝請台灣民眾黨發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1871.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1872.wav",
        "text": "是不是有需要重新調整這一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1873.wav",
        "text": "在委員會上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1874.wav",
        "text": "到後面委員會協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1875.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨表示的立場非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1876.wav",
        "text": "我們支持年金的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1877.wav",
        "text": "只不過說針對警消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1878.wav",
        "text": "他們實際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1879.wav",
        "text": "在勤務上面的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1880.wav",
        "text": "的確跟一般的公務人員不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1881.wav",
        "text": "這是我覺得我們要體認的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1882.wav",
        "text": "一個清楚的現實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1883.wav",
        "text": "只不過說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1884.wav",
        "text": "在所得替代率上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1885.wav",
        "text": "直接把他拉到跟軍人一樣的這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1886.wav",
        "text": "它會造成的財務上面的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1887.wav",
        "text": "我們事實上是必須要考慮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1888.wav",
        "text": "\n當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1889.wav",
        "text": "銓敘部他們現在針對直接拉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1890.wav",
        "text": "90%所得替代率的這一邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1891.wav",
        "text": "上次在委員會協商的時候討論出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1892.wav",
        "text": "它會使得基金用罄的年度提前兩年完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1893.wav",
        "text": "那個時候在委員會協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1894.wav",
        "text": "我事實上就曾經提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1895.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫功課做足一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1896.wav",
        "text": "就是你試算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1897.wav",
        "text": "不要只有試算95%跟90%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1898.wav",
        "text": "兩個所得的替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1899.wav",
        "text": "因為這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1900.wav",
        "text": "我們聆聽了社會各階層非常多的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1901.wav",
        "text": "我們可以很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1902.wav",
        "text": "而且負責任的跟大家講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1903.wav",
        "text": "臺灣這個社會對於警消同仁的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1904.wav",
        "text": "甚至對於他們所提出來的訴求支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1905.wav",
        "text": "支持度是非常高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1906.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也認為在進行這項調整的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1907.wav",
        "text": "可能不太適合淪於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1908.wav",
        "text": "一個沒有實際數字的喊價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1909.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會希望等到銓敘部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1910.wav",
        "text": "把各種不同所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1911.wav",
        "text": "的試算結果出來了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1912.wav",
        "text": "我們再來做一個平衡的審慎的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1913.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我是不是可以建請─"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1914.wav",
        "text": "─我們是不是真的有必要急著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1915.wav",
        "text": "今天一定要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1916.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是可以更負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1917.wav",
        "text": "等到銓敘部把其他的所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1918.wav",
        "text": "試算對於基金所會產生的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1919.wav",
        "text": "再來做一個比較審慎的考慮跟評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1920.wav",
        "text": "但是在整個大的方向上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1921.wav",
        "text": "加強提升對於我們警消同仁保障的這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1922.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團是支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1923.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝台灣民眾黨黃總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1924.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤跟洪孟楷兩位委員發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1925.wav",
        "text": "就請銓敘部施部長表達意見好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1926.wav",
        "text": "好請吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1927.wav",
        "text": "年金改革不走回頭路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1928.wav",
        "text": "這是攸關世代正義的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1929.wav",
        "text": "所以民進黨的立場為了維持年金的永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1930.wav",
        "text": "基於維持合理性公平性永續性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1931.wav",
        "text": "其實對於這一個修法的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1932.wav",
        "text": "就我們的立場我們是沒有辦法支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1933.wav",
        "text": "的但是剛也聽到民眾黨團的黃總召說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1934.wav",
        "text": "他也認為有進一步更多思考的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1935.wav",
        "text": "包括試算的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1936.wav",
        "text": "大家是可以一起來商量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1937.wav",
        "text": "也就是不急著在院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1938.wav",
        "text": "而且是在今天在沒有一個精準的試算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1939.wav",
        "text": "也相對欠缺充分的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1940.wav",
        "text": "下就這個重大的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1941.wav",
        "text": "來做處理大家想看看當初年金改革的那個過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1942.wav",
        "text": "府方成立了年改的委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1943.wav",
        "text": "後討論了多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1944.wav",
        "text": "然後到了立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1945.wav",
        "text": "包括各個委員會的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1946.wav",
        "text": "歷經非常長的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1947.wav",
        "text": "然後大家匯聚了相對的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1948.wav",
        "text": "我知道被改革方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1949.wav",
        "text": "當然還是有他的不滿的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1950.wav",
        "text": "但這是經過充分的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1951.wav",
        "text": "以落實年金改革的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1952.wav",
        "text": "再改回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1953.wav",
        "text": "再提高他的所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1954.wav",
        "text": "這當然也應當要慎思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1955.wav",
        "text": "警察人員人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1956.wav",
        "text": "在司法法制委員會只討論過一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1957.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商也等於很快就pass過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1958.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得都應當從長計議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1959.wav",
        "text": "\n回到這個議案的主要論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1960.wav",
        "text": "我想還是要再做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1961.wav",
        "text": "警消人員跟其他公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1962.wav",
        "text": "都適用同一套的退撫基金制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1963.wav",
        "text": "所以繳費義務跟給付權利也是對等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1964.wav",
        "text": "確實這就是要維護憲法平等權的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1965.wav",
        "text": "這個核心平等原則絕對不能扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1966.wav",
        "text": "所以如果針對警消部分來調整了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1967.wav",
        "text": "在公平性上是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1968.wav",
        "text": "的在平等性上是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1969.wav",
        "text": "的\n第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1970.wav",
        "text": "我們當然都非常體恤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1971.wav",
        "text": "也肯認警消人員平常工作的特殊狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1972.wav",
        "text": "也付出相當大的辛勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1973.wav",
        "text": "\n但持平而論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1974.wav",
        "text": "在政府對於警消人員的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1975.wav",
        "text": "上他們平均月退休所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1976.wav",
        "text": "本來就高於非警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1977.wav",
        "text": "而且警消平均退休年齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1978.wav",
        "text": "也都低於非警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1979.wav",
        "text": "所以警消跟非警消兩類人員平均的餘命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1980.wav",
        "text": "以及可支領月退休金的年限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1981.wav",
        "text": "其實差異是不大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1982.wav",
        "text": "如果說要提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1983.wav",
        "text": "也就是單獨提高警消人員的退休所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1984.wav",
        "text": "會拉大警消跟非警消的公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1985.wav",
        "text": "兩者之間退休所得的差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1986.wav",
        "text": "而警消人員並不會因此而增加他基金的繳費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1987.wav",
        "text": "所以我才說這樣會造成不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1988.wav",
        "text": "\n若單獨提高警消人員退休所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1989.wav",
        "text": "就財務部分對於年金的負擔財政的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1990.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們也提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1991.wav",
        "text": "我這裡可以再精簡歸納一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1992.wav",
        "text": "如果精算採行現在50年的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1993.wav",
        "text": "合計對政府及基金財政的支出負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1994.wav",
        "text": "會是3,117億再加上668億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1995.wav",
        "text": "算起來是3,785億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1996.wav",
        "text": "這個是增加支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1997.wav",
        "text": "而且會短少挹注給年金的pool"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1998.wav",
        "text": "短少挹注了1,093億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/1999.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的退撫基金在年改之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2000.wav",
        "text": "原本期待可以增加一個世代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2001.wav",
        "text": "但現在會提早兩年用罄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2002.wav",
        "text": "罄這讓所有退休人員的權益都受到傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2003.wav",
        "text": "更重要的是對現役中的警消工作人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2004.wav",
        "text": "所以這是世代正義的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2005.wav",
        "text": "我們固然要照顧退休的警消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2006.wav",
        "text": "但對於現役警消人員的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2007.wav",
        "text": "絕對不能因此而犧牲葬送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2008.wav",
        "text": "會有其他人員的援比效應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2009.wav",
        "text": "也就是今天一旦單獨提高了警消的所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2010.wav",
        "text": "其他類的公務人員教育人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2011.wav",
        "text": "醫療人員等等大家都可能認為要援引比照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2012.wav",
        "text": "開了一個破口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2013.wav",
        "text": "讓當初的年金改革形同有另外一個缺口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2014.wav",
        "text": "制度甚或是一個制度的可能崩解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2015.wav",
        "text": "我想這都不是我們這一屆立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2016.wav",
        "text": "大家願意面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2017.wav",
        "text": "更是我們沒有辦法負責的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2018.wav",
        "text": "所以民進黨團的立場真的是要懇請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2019.wav",
        "text": "也感謝民眾黨認為這個議案不應當在今天就來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2020.wav",
        "text": "年金改革不能走回頭路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2021.wav",
        "text": "世代正義不能開倒車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2022.wav",
        "text": "我們真的要懇請提案的國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2023.wav",
        "text": "這不只三思而後行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2024.wav",
        "text": "這是百思而後行萬思而後行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2025.wav",
        "text": "年改不走回頭路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2026.wav",
        "text": "基金的永續我們都有責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2027.wav",
        "text": "拜託就剩下國民黨團的意見了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2028.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2029.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2030.wav",
        "text": "接下來請洪孟楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2031.wav",
        "text": "銓敘部請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2032.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2033.wav",
        "text": "院長剛剛本席被提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2034.wav",
        "text": "所以我一定要做一個正式的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2035.wav",
        "text": "\n我在回應媒體的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2036.wav",
        "text": "到底有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2037.wav",
        "text": "當時我們還沒有確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2038.wav",
        "text": "因為那是上個禮拜的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2039.wav",
        "text": "還沒有確定我們到底有幾案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2040.wav",
        "text": "我只能說國民黨團那時候很負責任地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2041.wav",
        "text": "把我們這一次所有的提案以及交由黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2042.wav",
        "text": "或者是說已經達一個月時間的案子都先列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2043.wav",
        "text": "可是我有一個但書是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2044.wav",
        "text": "因為在這一個會期裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2045.wav",
        "text": "我們也都尊重院長的協商權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2046.wav",
        "text": "也因此在院長還沒有協商之前的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2047.wav",
        "text": "因為院長還沒有協商之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2048.wav",
        "text": "大家還沒有取得一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2049.wav",
        "text": "也因此我們不會貿然的提到院會來做後續的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2050.wav",
        "text": "所以在7月16號以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2051.wav",
        "text": "確實這一條條文沒有經過院長的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2052.wav",
        "text": "但是今天也看到我們展現了這樣一個高速的效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2053.wav",
        "text": "也因此今天協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2054.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有辦法取得共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2055.wav",
        "text": "這本來就在我們討論事項的51案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2056.wav",
        "text": "本來就可以進行相關的一個處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2057.wav",
        "text": "所以並沒有說我們國民黨團沒有要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2058.wav",
        "text": "這一點我想所有人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2059.wav",
        "text": "大家都非常明白瞭解我們的議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2060.wav",
        "text": "所以並不需要扣各自黨團的帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2061.wav",
        "text": "這我們也講得非常清楚了國民黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2062.wav",
        "text": "自始至終都希望能夠追求一個更公平的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2063.wav",
        "text": "並且能夠感謝過去到現在對於國家付出的警消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2064.wav",
        "text": "等相關公務體系的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2065.wav",
        "text": "包括海巡包括相關的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2066.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個我們先敘明\n"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2067.wav",
        "text": "第二我們當然追求公平"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2068.wav",
        "text": "我們當然追求年金永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2069.wav",
        "text": "我們當然追求大家都要有一個更持平的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2070.wav",
        "text": "如果說真的是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2071.wav",
        "text": "一國就不應該有兩制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2072.wav",
        "text": "嘛為什麼討論到軍警相關部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2073.wav",
        "text": "的人事條例的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2074.wav",
        "text": "但是討論到更重要以及國人更關心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2075.wav",
        "text": "更廣泛更全面的勞保年金的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2076.wav",
        "text": "居然直接在我們衛環委員會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2077.wav",
        "text": "那就撥補啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2078.wav",
        "text": "撥補也是改革"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2079.wav",
        "text": "而前任的勞動部長那時候一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2080.wav",
        "text": "勞保年金一定要改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2081.wav",
        "text": "非改革不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2082.wav",
        "text": "如果不改革的話會破產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2083.wav",
        "text": "結果沒想到過兩個月不到520新的勞動部長上任之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2084.wav",
        "text": "就說勞保年金就是政府撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2085.wav",
        "text": "政府撥補就是改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2086.wav",
        "text": "所以未來政府可以編列1,000億2,000億的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2087.wav",
        "text": "持續的投入勞保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2088.wav",
        "text": "但是對於其他的年金卻有不同的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2089.wav",
        "text": "這不是一國兩制什麼才是一國兩制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2090.wav",
        "text": "要年金就一律的大家一起來看待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2091.wav",
        "text": "要不要改革當然可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2092.wav",
        "text": "但是不要用執政黨手握權力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2093.wav",
        "text": "卻是對於不同的族群不同的年金做不同的對待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2094.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這不是一個公平的作法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2095.wav",
        "text": "\n第三等一下我想我們很理性務實的在這邊討論"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2096.wav",
        "text": "所以我也要求銓敘部是不是針對之前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2097.wav",
        "text": "──我想委員會裡面也都有討論很多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2098.wav",
        "text": "有一些年金的試算部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2099.wav",
        "text": "也可以提出相關對應的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2100.wav",
        "text": "\n還有我們過去在委員會裡面也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2101.wav",
        "text": "再一次請警政署消防署跟內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2102.wav",
        "text": "說明一下你們的立場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2103.wav",
        "text": "是要為我們過去到現在付出打拚的所有警消弟兄"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2104.wav",
        "text": "以及相關公務體系的弟兄"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2105.wav",
        "text": "來爭取一個合理的待遇"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2106.wav",
        "text": "還是說就要放任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2107.wav",
        "text": "讓這樣有一國兩制的制度產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2108.wav",
        "text": "透過協商的直播全國國人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2109.wav",
        "text": "關心這個議題的人都在看"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2110.wav",
        "text": "我要拜託院長能夠等一下讓內政部警政署消防署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2111.wav",
        "text": "來表達你們的意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2112.wav",
        "text": "簡單扼要的讓國人知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2113.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2114.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2115.wav",
        "text": "接下來請銓敘部發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2116.wav",
        "text": "請內政部準備發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2117.wav",
        "text": "然後警政署消防署兩位署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2118.wav",
        "text": "也請簡短扼要表達立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2119.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長還有大院的各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2120.wav",
        "text": "很謝謝大院有這個機會讓銓敘部在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2121.wav",
        "text": "就這個議案做進一步再一次的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2122.wav",
        "text": "在協商的時候確實一路講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2123.wav",
        "text": "應該要用數據科學來談這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2124.wav",
        "text": "他也提出我們是不是回去再做一些不同試算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2125.wav",
        "text": "的看法確實我們禮拜四"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2126.wav",
        "text": "回來後就找精算一直來談這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2127.wav",
        "text": "事實上部裡面現在也開始在繼續進行"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2128.wav",
        "text": "不過我想黃委員也知道也同意這需要時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2129.wav",
        "text": "不過我們一定會負責任的把一些數據算出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2130.wav",
        "text": "提供給大院的委員做參考"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2131.wav",
        "text": "我想這個案子必須要建立在很多事實的基礎上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2132.wav",
        "text": "供大院做討論可能是比較好的一個方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2133.wav",
        "text": "\n銓敘部對這個案子目前的看法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2134.wav",
        "text": "我們是真的建議這個案子不要通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2135.wav",
        "text": "我想很少有部長這麼勇敢的在大院裡面要求這樣處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2136.wav",
        "text": "我要講我的理由"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2137.wav",
        "text": "因為銓敘部作為主管我們全國公務人員基金的一個主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2138.wav",
        "text": "大家要理解臺灣的公務人員退撫基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2139.wav",
        "text": "一向就是所有的公務人員跟警消人員一起參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2140.wav",
        "text": "軍人是另外一個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2141.wav",
        "text": "所以原來永遠的一個方式就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2142.wav",
        "text": "這個基金如果要永續核心的原則就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2143.wav",
        "text": "所有人用同樣的標準繳費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2144.wav",
        "text": "所有人用同樣的標準領得給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2145.wav",
        "text": "然後因為年改的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2146.wav",
        "text": "所有人也用同樣方式做10年的所得替代率的一個演進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2147.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個基礎下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2148.wav",
        "text": "因為大家的權利義務相當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2149.wav",
        "text": "所以如果有任何一方單獨把它提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2150.wav",
        "text": "這個其實是破壞了整個核心的最基本的平等對待原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2151.wav",
        "text": "的就是這個對基金的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2152.wav",
        "text": "其實嚴肅的衝擊了平等對待基金裡面所有公務同仁的一個原則"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2153.wav",
        "text": "我想這是我第一點要說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2154.wav",
        "text": "的\n第二點說明我知道對於警消同仁其實國人都很支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2155.wav",
        "text": "政府也很支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2156.wav",
        "text": "剩下的就是我們對於警消同仁的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2157.wav",
        "text": "到底是應該以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2158.wav",
        "text": "所以是以現職人員這部分應該多做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2159.wav",
        "text": "還是要用退休金的方式去做一個解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2160.wav",
        "text": "對於這個部分呢其實從基金的角度從全部的角度來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2161.wav",
        "text": "我知道內政部部長等一下應該會提在過去任內裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2162.wav",
        "text": "其實政府對於警消現職同仁的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2163.wav",
        "text": "還有相關的一些議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2164.wav",
        "text": "都有在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2165.wav",
        "text": "我也跟各位報告一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2166.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣增進警消同仁的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2167.wav",
        "text": "政府持續在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2168.wav",
        "text": "我105年到111年在行政院擔任人事長的任內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2169.wav",
        "text": "其實對警消同仁我同時至少做了兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2170.wav",
        "text": "目前核增了4,200位警消警察同仁其實就是在我任內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2171.wav",
        "text": "所做的一個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2172.wav",
        "text": "還有一個是在我的任內將基層員警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2173.wav",
        "text": "的年功俸從本來的只到500點提高到525點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2174.wav",
        "text": "也都是那時候做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2175.wav",
        "text": "的所以其實整個政府努力在照顧這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2176.wav",
        "text": "\n因為危勞的特性所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2177.wav",
        "text": "他們的待遇會比一般公務人員高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2178.wav",
        "text": "現職的待遇比一般公務人員高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2179.wav",
        "text": "所以他退休的時候根據現行的制度算出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2180.wav",
        "text": "也就是說在現行的制度下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2181.wav",
        "text": "即使我們都不改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2182.wav",
        "text": "他每個月領的錢就是比公務人員高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2183.wav",
        "text": "每個月領的錢會是多高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2184.wav",
        "text": "警察人員來講大概是五萬四左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2185.wav",
        "text": "但是後面還會做一點調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2186.wav",
        "text": "我們講的是說類似這個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2187.wav",
        "text": "我都必須要清楚地告訴國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2188.wav",
        "text": "他有這樣一個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2189.wav",
        "text": "如果修法以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2190.wav",
        "text": "那個數字當然因為他是90%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2191.wav",
        "text": "不是到95%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2192.wav",
        "text": "他的月退休金就會增加更高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2193.wav",
        "text": "可是公務人員不會啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2194.wav",
        "text": "所以那個差距就會越拉越大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2195.wav",
        "text": "等到退休的時候結果領的不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2196.wav",
        "text": "這個不是只有對現職警察人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2197.wav",
        "text": "跟非警察人員的不平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2198.wav",
        "text": "是已經退休的警察人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2199.wav",
        "text": "跟已經退休的公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2200.wav",
        "text": "同樣會有這個問題存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2201.wav",
        "text": "所以我必須很坦白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2202.wav",
        "text": "清楚的做這樣一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2203.wav",
        "text": "\n當然剛剛有一些執政黨的委員也都提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2204.wav",
        "text": "我們也做過試算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2205.wav",
        "text": "至少這一次的試算是以90%為上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2206.wav",
        "text": "或95%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2207.wav",
        "text": "就是基金至少會提早兩年用罄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2208.wav",
        "text": "那個財務我們是用50年來估算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2209.wav",
        "text": "的會用50年來估算是因為所有的基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2210.wav",
        "text": "按法律都是以50年來做精算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2211.wav",
        "text": "所以我們負責任的用50年來估算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2212.wav",
        "text": "那個數字都是50年會多這些錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2213.wav",
        "text": "用罄這個議題就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2214.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2215.wav",
        "text": "對財務永續是沒有幫忙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2216.wav",
        "text": "結果非警察人員沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2217.wav",
        "text": "他們一定會援引比照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2218.wav",
        "text": "我也跟各位報告說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2219.wav",
        "text": "我們危勞的人不是只有警察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2220.wav",
        "text": "還有醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2221.wav",
        "text": "他們也不會因此這樣去做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2222.wav",
        "text": "所以這個其實是很茲事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2223.wav",
        "text": "的如果大家都要比照到90%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2224.wav",
        "text": "我想我們之前做的年金改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2225.wav",
        "text": "其實就等於是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2226.wav",
        "text": "我們當初做的年金改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2227.wav",
        "text": "就是讓整個年金永續的年限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2228.wav",
        "text": "至少延後25年到30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2229.wav",
        "text": "如果這個案子通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2230.wav",
        "text": "再加上後面的援引比照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2231.wav",
        "text": "我們可能整個用罄的年限就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2232.wav",
        "text": "會大幅地往前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2233.wav",
        "text": "那樣對現職的所有公務同仁來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2234.wav",
        "text": "是很不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2235.wav",
        "text": "跟各位報告這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2236.wav",
        "text": "\n當然就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2237.wav",
        "text": "立法的技術上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2238.wav",
        "text": "涉及的範圍有些提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2239.wav",
        "text": "有些又把範圍擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2240.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分就立法技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2241.wav",
        "text": "來說可能等一下在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2242.wav",
        "text": "也需要去注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2243.wav",
        "text": "也提到已經退休的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2244.wav",
        "text": "未來他的退休金的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2245.wav",
        "text": "要跟現職人員完全同步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2246.wav",
        "text": "跟同幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2247.wav",
        "text": "又完全不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2248.wav",
        "text": "如果按照這個制度走下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2249.wav",
        "text": "又是另外一個警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2250.wav",
        "text": "這部分我想作為銓敘部我們有義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2251.wav",
        "text": "在這裡也把它做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2252.wav",
        "text": "\n整體來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2253.wav",
        "text": "我自己真的要跟大院建議說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2254.wav",
        "text": "照顧警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2255.wav",
        "text": "應該是透過對現職同仁的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2256.wav",
        "text": "各式各樣包括對他執勤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2257.wav",
        "text": "的工作環境工作條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2258.wav",
        "text": "這方面努力加以充實改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2259.wav",
        "text": "至於退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2260.wav",
        "text": "我們必須顧及平等原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2261.wav",
        "text": "更何況我們的退休金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2262.wav",
        "text": "隨著調薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2263.wav",
        "text": "因為每年調薪退休金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2264.wav",
        "text": "自然就會有一些調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2265.wav",
        "text": "當然退休人員的調薪方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2266.wav",
        "text": "跟現職人員不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2267.wav",
        "text": "但是它也會調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2268.wav",
        "text": "也會達到一定的數額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2269.wav",
        "text": "應該也足以照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2270.wav",
        "text": "個人在退休之後的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2271.wav",
        "text": "所以我想藉著這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2272.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝大院給我機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2273.wav",
        "text": "謝謝施部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2274.wav",
        "text": "接下來請內政部劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2275.wav",
        "text": "跟兩位署長說明之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2276.wav",
        "text": "就請莊瑞雄委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2277.wav",
        "text": "請劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2278.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2279.wav",
        "text": "對於有關警察人員的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2280.wav",
        "text": "尤其有12位委員提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2281.wav",
        "text": "關於第35條第1項第4款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2282.wav",
        "text": "我想我分兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2283.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2284.wav",
        "text": "我們現在最重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2285.wav",
        "text": "就是先保障跟保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2286.wav",
        "text": "現職的警消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2287.wav",
        "text": "還有移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2288.wav",
        "text": "剛剛銓敘部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2289.wav",
        "text": "已經跟大家報告過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2290.wav",
        "text": "從105年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2291.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2292.wav",
        "text": "現在現職警察人員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2293.wav",
        "text": "各項待遇跟福利措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2294.wav",
        "text": "一共有15項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2295.wav",
        "text": "包括公益信託基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2296.wav",
        "text": "才剛剛通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2297.wav",
        "text": "危勞性勤務津貼支給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2298.wav",
        "text": "等一共有15項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2299.wav",
        "text": "這些大概就是針對現有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2300.wav",
        "text": "現職的警察人員的各項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2301.wav",
        "text": "待遇跟福利措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2302.wav",
        "text": "先跟大家做一個簡單的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2303.wav",
        "text": "\n至於警察人員人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2304.wav",
        "text": "第35條條文修正草案中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2305.wav",
        "text": "所明定的是針對退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2306.wav",
        "text": "當然退休警察警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2307.wav",
        "text": "剛剛銓敘部已經跟大家報告過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2308.wav",
        "text": "有些委員的提案是以警消海巡為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2309.wav",
        "text": "包括空勤或者是航空測量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2310.wav",
        "text": "等機關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2311.wav",
        "text": "所以在適用的對象上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2312.wav",
        "text": "已經有所不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2313.wav",
        "text": "所得替代率的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2314.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們認為就平等待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2315.wav",
        "text": "跟世代正義的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2316.wav",
        "text": "很多委員已經發表過他們的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2317.wav",
        "text": "我就不再贅述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2318.wav",
        "text": "但是就我所瞭解的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2319.wav",
        "text": "不是只有內政部而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2320.wav",
        "text": "還包括銓敘部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2321.wav",
        "text": "以及行政院的人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2322.wav",
        "text": "主計總處公務人員的退撫基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2323.wav",
        "text": "甚至各個地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2324.wav",
        "text": "他們也必須要負起有關退休員警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2325.wav",
        "text": "或是警消人員退休金給付之職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2326.wav",
        "text": "所以此事影響的層面相當的廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2327.wav",
        "text": "除原來的退休警消人員之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2328.wav",
        "text": "會不會有退休的公教人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2329.wav",
        "text": "也會引起不同的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2330.wav",
        "text": "跟共識到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2331.wav",
        "text": "可能還有一大步有待於我們去努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2332.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2333.wav",
        "text": "如果按照一些委員的提案條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2334.wav",
        "text": "所得替代率達到90%或95%的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2335.wav",
        "text": "目前我們可以預估到將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2336.wav",
        "text": "也就是說資深的有經驗的警員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2337.wav",
        "text": "下面的人員能不能補得上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2338.wav",
        "text": "各位委員其實非常關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2339.wav",
        "text": "在歷次內政委員會質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2340.wav",
        "text": "都有特別詢問到現在警察人員或消防人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2341.wav",
        "text": "是不是有缺額待補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2342.wav",
        "text": "但是不管是因為少子化的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2343.wav",
        "text": "所以補的速度不若"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2344.wav",
        "text": "各位所預期的那麼高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2345.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在衡平現在的整個狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2346.wav",
        "text": "還是主張是不是跟銓敘部的想法一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2347.wav",
        "text": "就是主張可以從長計議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2348.wav",
        "text": "當然照顧現職人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2349.wav",
        "text": "是我們內政部重要的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2350.wav",
        "text": "那照顧退休的警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2351.wav",
        "text": "也是我們應該努力的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2352.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2353.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝劉部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2354.wav",
        "text": "接下來請警政署張署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2355.wav",
        "text": "表達意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2356.wav",
        "text": "院長大會的委員大家好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2357.wav",
        "text": "首先非常感謝各位委員為了對警察辛勞的照顧"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2358.wav",
        "text": "而提出這些提案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2359.wav",
        "text": "那站在警政署的立場上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2360.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長也講了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2361.wav",
        "text": "不管是現職的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2362.wav",
        "text": "我站在警政署的立場也非常感謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2363.wav",
        "text": "同時對於退休的同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2364.wav",
        "text": "我們也是有必要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2365.wav",
        "text": "一些必要的照顧"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2366.wav",
        "text": "那我想站在警政署的立場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2367.wav",
        "text": "因為這個的主管機關是銓敘部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2368.wav",
        "text": "我們也會協同"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2369.wav",
        "text": "銓敘部來積極"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2370.wav",
        "text": "包括有關所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2371.wav",
        "text": "試算完之後的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2372.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼樣我們協同銓敘"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2373.wav",
        "text": "銓敘部的相關機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2374.wav",
        "text": "來協調積極處理這件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2375.wav",
        "text": "做以上的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2376.wav",
        "text": "請消防署蕭署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2377.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員大家好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2378.wav",
        "text": "很感謝院長跟各位委員對消防體系"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2379.wav",
        "text": "我想在過去這一段時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2380.wav",
        "text": "誠如兩位部長所提到的對消防人員的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2381.wav",
        "text": "支持跟照顧還有福利待遇"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2382.wav",
        "text": "有大幅的提升"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2383.wav",
        "text": "那最近也針對未來的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2384.wav",
        "text": "消防建設提出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2385.wav",
        "text": "達到230億的建設經費"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2386.wav",
        "text": "我想對於消防體系的人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2387.wav",
        "text": "跟工作體系的素質"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2388.wav",
        "text": "有能量的提升"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2389.wav",
        "text": "會有很大的幫助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2390.wav",
        "text": "我想消防體系會秉持這個原則"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2391.wav",
        "text": "繼續打拚努力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2392.wav",
        "text": "當然對於退休人員我們也同樣的重視"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2393.wav",
        "text": "我們會協同警政署"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2394.wav",
        "text": "遵照內政部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2395.wav",
        "text": "共同來打拚努力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2396.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長跟各位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2397.wav",
        "text": "謝謝接下來請莊瑞雄委員發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2398.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長和各位協商代表"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2399.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛聽了警政署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2400.wav",
        "text": "跟消防署長這兩位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2401.wav",
        "text": "的大家長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2402.wav",
        "text": "我倒覺得你們算有良心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2403.wav",
        "text": "在這十幾年來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2404.wav",
        "text": "我們在內政委員會裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2405.wav",
        "text": "幾乎每一次去談的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2406.wav",
        "text": "就是我們警消做這些危勤"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2407.wav",
        "text": "工作對他們要怎麼樣去做一個照顧"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2408.wav",
        "text": "那其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2409.wav",
        "text": "不分黨派"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2410.wav",
        "text": "對我們的警察"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2411.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都很盡心盡力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2412.wav",
        "text": "但是今天這個案子"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2413.wav",
        "text": "我倒是覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2414.wav",
        "text": "大家應該要再冷靜一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2415.wav",
        "text": "那個年功俸的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2416.wav",
        "text": "我們就調了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2417.wav",
        "text": "我們現在基層的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2418.wav",
        "text": "警消"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2419.wav",
        "text": "已經是八職等"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2420.wav",
        "text": "待遇好大家都喜歡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2421.wav",
        "text": "啊給你更好的照顧我們都願意"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2422.wav",
        "text": "啊但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2423.wav",
        "text": "是不是像銓"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2424.wav",
        "text": "銓敘部長剛剛所講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2425.wav",
        "text": "再去試算一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2426.wav",
        "text": "人家消防署長跟警政署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2427.wav",
        "text": "再來做一個試算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2428.wav",
        "text": "否則大家對這整個退撫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2429.wav",
        "text": "你一下子又把它拉回到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2430.wav",
        "text": "所得替代率超過90%"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2431.wav",
        "text": "一個政黨在執政"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2432.wav",
        "text": "都會碰到這樣的一個問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2433.wav",
        "text": "沒有這樣的一個政黨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2434.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個非常"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2435.wav",
        "text": "嚴肅的問題我們在這個社會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2436.wav",
        "text": "所要感謝的人太多對警察要不要感謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2437.wav",
        "text": "當然要感謝對海巡人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2438.wav",
        "text": "要不要感謝都要感謝對所有在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2439.wav",
        "text": "為這個國家付出的人我們全部都要感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2440.wav",
        "text": "基金就像一桶水一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2441.wav",
        "text": "你要一直給它流流流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2442.wav",
        "text": "你要其他的部分你怎麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2443.wav",
        "text": "放進去怎麼樣再來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2444.wav",
        "text": "流進去然後對其他的人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2445.wav",
        "text": "會不會有相對剝奪感"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2446.wav",
        "text": "危險工作的警察跟消防"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2447.wav",
        "text": "人員比起來你就覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2448.wav",
        "text": "我跟其他的公務人員一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2449.wav",
        "text": "這樣就沒道理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2450.wav",
        "text": "可是問題是我們把年功俸又調高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2451.wav",
        "text": "六職等的人領到八職等現在的錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2452.wav",
        "text": "那"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2453.wav",
        "text": "拉高所得替代率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2454.wav",
        "text": "一般都在講什麼都在講說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2455.wav",
        "text": "退撫那個所得替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2456.wav",
        "text": "因為年金改革有稍微"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2457.wav",
        "text": "降低他的工作是很危險的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2458.wav",
        "text": "所以我們去加以提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2459.wav",
        "text": "如果要這樣我們當初就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2460.wav",
        "text": "一下子把它拉高就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2461.wav",
        "text": "提出就是說在試算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2462.wav",
        "text": "完以後大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2463.wav",
        "text": "也不用那麼急好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2464.wav",
        "text": "謝謝莊瑞雄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2465.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2466.wav",
        "text": "接下來還有3位委員發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2467.wav",
        "text": "我就要喊休息5分鐘大家協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2468.wav",
        "text": "委員這邊現在還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2469.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁委員牛煦庭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2470.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱委員跟柯建銘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2471.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠達成共識最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2472.wav",
        "text": "不能達成的話就要送院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2473.wav",
        "text": "所以等一下必須喊一個休息時間請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2474.wav",
        "text": "來協商接下來是這幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2475.wav",
        "text": "發言好不好請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2476.wav",
        "text": "簡短扼要重複的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2477.wav",
        "text": "就不用再說了\n請傅崐萁委員謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2478.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席已經叫我們簡短扼要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2479.wav",
        "text": "了我想特別要再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2480.wav",
        "text": "不管是軍人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2481.wav",
        "text": "還是我們警察還是我們消防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2482.wav",
        "text": "甚至海巡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2483.wav",
        "text": "因為現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2484.wav",
        "text": "執政的政府也要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2485.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們看到萬安演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2486.wav",
        "text": "照理講是一個準戰爭狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2487.wav",
        "text": "結果演習的全部是警察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2488.wav",
        "text": "包括現在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2489.wav",
        "text": "包山包海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2490.wav",
        "text": "幾乎所有的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2491.wav",
        "text": "保家衛民是軍人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2492.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2493.wav",
        "text": "除暴安良是警察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2494.wav",
        "text": "其實他們的工作都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2495.wav",
        "text": "越是我們的假日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2496.wav",
        "text": "反而都是警察最忙碌的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2497.wav",
        "text": "還要指揮交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2498.wav",
        "text": "還要各方面的社會治安安寧等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2499.wav",
        "text": "甚至晚上的噪音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2500.wav",
        "text": "都要由警察來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2501.wav",
        "text": "什麼鞭炮什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2502.wav",
        "text": "等等所以我想今天警察同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2503.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛聽到警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2504.wav",
        "text": "跟消防署講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2505.wav",
        "text": "的我也滿遺憾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2506.wav",
        "text": "啦他說對現職的警察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2507.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣改善他們的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2508.wav",
        "text": "跟古早的社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2509.wav",
        "text": "那時候是物質更缺乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2510.wav",
        "text": "更艱困的年代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2511.wav",
        "text": "這些警察同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2512.wav",
        "text": "如果都走過來已經退休了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2513.wav",
        "text": "對一個已經為國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2514.wav",
        "text": "奉獻一生的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2515.wav",
        "text": "我們都沒有辦法好好照顧他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2516.wav",
        "text": "那現職的人當然會寒心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2517.wav",
        "text": "再一次要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2518.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2519.wav",
        "text": "我們所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2520.wav",
        "text": "替代率修正以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2521.wav",
        "text": "現職的警察會趕著要退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2522.wav",
        "text": "這是國家該承擔的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2523.wav",
        "text": "應該是要對國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2524.wav",
        "text": "有信心才對嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2525.wav",
        "text": "能夠把整個國家照顧好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2526.wav",
        "text": "不會有什麼破產的危機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2527.wav",
        "text": "這是國家應盡的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2528.wav",
        "text": "有信心國家會做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2529.wav",
        "text": "該退的退可以工作的繼續工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2530.wav",
        "text": "尤其已經退休的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2531.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要照顧他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2532.wav",
        "text": "已經為了這個國家奉獻一生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2533.wav",
        "text": "我們該做的還是要面對還是要承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2534.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2535.wav",
        "text": "幾點立場還是要做簡單扼要的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2536.wav",
        "text": "第一個剛剛有人講年金改革不要開倒車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2537.wav",
        "text": "當然可以這樣主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2538.wav",
        "text": "但是難道當初的粗暴通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2539.wav",
        "text": "沒有寒了軍公教的心嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2540.wav",
        "text": "有欠考慮之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2541.wav",
        "text": "應該重新檢討嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2542.wav",
        "text": "我想包含年改法案當初通過的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2543.wav",
        "text": "都有講說這應該要視財務的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2544.wav",
        "text": "重新來做檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2545.wav",
        "text": "不夠優厚的話它其實是會影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2546.wav",
        "text": "軍公教部分人才的增補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2547.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個第二個我希望政府不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2548.wav",
        "text": "帶頭當慣老闆當我們的勞動部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2549.wav",
        "text": "已經講了撥補也是改革的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2550.wav",
        "text": "尤其軍公教的老闆就是政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2551.wav",
        "text": "本來用同樣的邏輯跟同樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2552.wav",
        "text": "合理的在財政方面提出挹注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2553.wav",
        "text": "也是幫基金開源的一種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2554.wav",
        "text": "第三我要講立足點的平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2555.wav",
        "text": "才是真平等剛剛我們總召講得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2556.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們除了第一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2557.wav",
        "text": "輪發言有講了之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2558.wav",
        "text": "是跟一般公務人員最大的差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2559.wav",
        "text": "所以不應該用齊頭式平等的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2560.wav",
        "text": "跟邏輯來處理這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2561.wav",
        "text": "\n再來我們還是要講一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2562.wav",
        "text": "東西我看了銓敘部給的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2563.wav",
        "text": "這其實跟當初在委員會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2564.wav",
        "text": "的這些數字基本上都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2565.wav",
        "text": "其實都是一樣的可是其實當初在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2566.wav",
        "text": "委員會審查的時候大家都希望銓敘部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2567.wav",
        "text": "針對不同的版本不同的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2568.wav",
        "text": "提出更完善詳實的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2569.wav",
        "text": "我不反對剛剛民眾黨黨團的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2570.wav",
        "text": "說我們多做一點設算之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2571.wav",
        "text": "再來審慎的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2572.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為是OK的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2573.wav",
        "text": "我就希望銓敘部提供一些數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2574.wav",
        "text": "比如說我們現在修法的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2575.wav",
        "text": "最低替代率45%年增2%最高替代率90%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2576.wav",
        "text": "這個數字在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2577.wav",
        "text": "可是難道沒有其他排列組合的方式嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2578.wav",
        "text": "我們如果最低替代率50%年增1.75%呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2579.wav",
        "text": "我們如果最低替代率55%但年增1.5%呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2580.wav",
        "text": "我們的最高替代率如果降到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2581.wav",
        "text": "85%或80%呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2582.wav",
        "text": "我希望銓敘部針對這些排列組合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2583.wav",
        "text": "做個設算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2584.wav",
        "text": "45%50%55%三個版本的最低替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2585.wav",
        "text": "年增率1.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2586.wav",
        "text": "2%三個年增的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2587.wav",
        "text": "跟最高替代率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2588.wav",
        "text": "如果我們今天決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2589.wav",
        "text": "不要在今天就處理這件事的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2590.wav",
        "text": "好歹我們做設算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2591.wav",
        "text": "做版本考量的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2592.wav",
        "text": "我們就要有更多數字的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2593.wav",
        "text": "來做設算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2594.wav",
        "text": "我希望銓敘部可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2595.wav",
        "text": "如實提供這些資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2596.wav",
        "text": "作為大家未來再討論的參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2597.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2598.wav",
        "text": "即便是45%2%90%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2599.wav",
        "text": "對於財務的影響也沒有大家想像中的那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2600.wav",
        "text": "你講的100多億幾千多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2601.wav",
        "text": "如果多撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2602.wav",
        "text": "100億是50年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2603.wav",
        "text": "那平均一年才兩億多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2604.wav",
        "text": "何況我們現在處理勞保的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2605.wav",
        "text": "一年就是100多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2606.wav",
        "text": "這難道沒有有失衡平跟比例原則嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2607.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這些數字跟這些理路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2608.wav",
        "text": "大家值得再深思沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2609.wav",
        "text": "希望銓敘部提供足夠的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2610.wav",
        "text": "作為後續討論的參考以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2611.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2612.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2613.wav",
        "text": "剛剛聽到牛委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2614.wav",
        "text": "未來不排除考慮請銓敘部提出更完整的設算之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2615.wav",
        "text": "我們再來處理這個嚴肅的年金議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2616.wav",
        "text": "跟剛剛民眾黨的黃總召所提到的我想方向是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2617.wav",
        "text": "但是還是要回應到傅總召所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2618.wav",
        "text": "甚至海巡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2619.wav",
        "text": "我們瞭解到他們現職在工作當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2620.wav",
        "text": "可能的風險可能的付出都遠超過其他的公教人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2621.wav",
        "text": "因此我們必須對於警消海巡等這些同樣性質的公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2622.wav",
        "text": "給予他權益上更多的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2623.wav",
        "text": "我想這是毫無疑問的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2624.wav",
        "text": "但是我們如果從年金的角度出發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2625.wav",
        "text": "我們要思考到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2626.wav",
        "text": "在退休後的警消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2627.wav",
        "text": "跟公務人員和軍人的差異是哪一個比較接近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2628.wav",
        "text": "哪一個比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2629.wav",
        "text": "\n我舉例來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2630.wav",
        "text": "當我們講軍警票的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2631.wav",
        "text": "我小時候有軍警票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2632.wav",
        "text": "軍跟警的現職人員是享受軍警票的優待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2633.wav",
        "text": "當年是因為軍警的待遇較差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2634.wav",
        "text": "所以社會上業者同意在這樣的事業上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2635.wav",
        "text": "給予軍警票的優惠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2636.wav",
        "text": "但是現階段已經沒有軍警票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2637.wav",
        "text": "因為待遇都提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2638.wav",
        "text": "65歲或者60歲退休之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2639.wav",
        "text": "65歲都可以乘坐敬老票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2640.wav",
        "text": "跟條件是相當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2641.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要給予提高待遇的優待或者保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2642.wav",
        "text": "這應該責成內政部去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2643.wav",
        "text": "軍人跟警消不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2644.wav",
        "text": "適用一個退撫基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2645.wav",
        "text": "軍人的退撫基金當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2646.wav",
        "text": "軍人所提撥所繳納的義務跟權利是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2647.wav",
        "text": "但是警或消他們是結合在公務人員的退撫基金當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2648.wav",
        "text": "他們跟其他公務員所享的權利跟義務是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2649.wav",
        "text": "儘管在現職年資上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2650.wav",
        "text": "他們的退休年齡比一般公教人員早個5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2651.wav",
        "text": "可是他們現職的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2652.wav",
        "text": "以現職的月薪來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2653.wav",
        "text": "以警政四階跟薦任六職等來比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2654.wav",
        "text": "意味著什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2655.wav",
        "text": "意味著在退休後的權益跟待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2656.wav",
        "text": "因為月薪較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2657.wav",
        "text": "所以他們貢獻的稍微多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2658.wav",
        "text": "但是論及退休的年資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2659.wav",
        "text": "相較於其他公務人員是早退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2660.wav",
        "text": "可能早個5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2661.wav",
        "text": "再以平均餘命來算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2662.wav",
        "text": "目前退休的警消人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2663.wav",
        "text": "以他們退休的死亡年齡來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2664.wav",
        "text": "也跟國人差異不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2665.wav",
        "text": "換言之他們在退休之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2666.wav",
        "text": "甚至還比其他公務人員多享受一些時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2667.wav",
        "text": "\n因此從整個年金永續經營的立場來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2668.wav",
        "text": "我們認為對於警消人員的肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2669.wav",
        "text": "應該是在現職期間的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2670.wav",
        "text": "跟各種安全的保障去提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2671.wav",
        "text": "應該責成內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2672.wav",
        "text": "跟海巡相關部會去要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2673.wav",
        "text": "但是在提到年金的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2674.wav",
        "text": "跟其他公務人員共享同一個退撫基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2675.wav",
        "text": "各種類型的公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2676.wav",
        "text": "包括警消在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2677.wav",
        "text": "應該一視同仁給予均等的退休待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2678.wav",
        "text": "這樣才是一個比較好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2679.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是希望未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2680.wav",
        "text": "我們對警消的肯定尊重和強化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2681.wav",
        "text": "應該以在職為優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2682.wav",
        "text": "但是對於年金的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2683.wav",
        "text": "可能還是呼應剛剛黃總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2684.wav",
        "text": "和牛委員的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2685.wav",
        "text": "我們可以從長計議以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2686.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鍾佳濱委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2687.wav",
        "text": "接下來請柯建銘總召發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2688.wav",
        "text": "就會休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2689.wav",
        "text": "我們希望這個會期最後一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2690.wav",
        "text": "大家來火車對撞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2691.wav",
        "text": "因為這個道理很清楚嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2692.wav",
        "text": "我們要講的就是剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2693.wav",
        "text": "剛洪孟楷委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2694.wav",
        "text": "我們在反改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2695.wav",
        "text": "要搞一國兩制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2696.wav",
        "text": "事實上洪孟楷你才是在反改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2697.wav",
        "text": "年金改革已經改完了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2698.wav",
        "text": "你現在要重新再來改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2699.wav",
        "text": "重新再搞一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2700.wav",
        "text": "那時候年金改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2701.wav",
        "text": "大家花了多少時間精力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2702.wav",
        "text": "還有全國年改會議等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2703.wav",
        "text": "關於警消你要給他多一點危勞待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2704.wav",
        "text": "那時候都已經處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2705.wav",
        "text": "所以今天不要用這個口號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2706.wav",
        "text": "是誰在反改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2707.wav",
        "text": "至於所謂一國兩制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2708.wav",
        "text": "當然是你們現在在搞一國兩制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2709.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會變成我們在搞一國兩制呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2710.wav",
        "text": "剛才已經講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2711.wav",
        "text": "軍人是一個系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2712.wav",
        "text": "公務人員是一個系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2713.wav",
        "text": "警消當然包括在公務人員裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2714.wav",
        "text": "那你又把公務人員系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2715.wav",
        "text": "分為兩個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2716.wav",
        "text": "當然是搞一國兩制嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2717.wav",
        "text": "至於剛才傅崐萁委員所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2718.wav",
        "text": "芳部長講得很有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2719.wav",
        "text": "退休金更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2720.wav",
        "text": "大家搶退嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2721.wav",
        "text": "差不多大家都要搶退了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2722.wav",
        "text": "搶退的結果是怎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2723.wav",
        "text": "並不是說傅崐萁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2724.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2725.wav",
        "text": "政府要有信心的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2726.wav",
        "text": "一個觀念啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2727.wav",
        "text": "一定政府出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2728.wav",
        "text": "這個道理就很簡單嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2729.wav",
        "text": "我們已經讓他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2730.wav",
        "text": "提早十年能夠退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2731.wav",
        "text": "而提早十年能夠拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2732.wav",
        "text": "所以剛才包括銓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2733.wav",
        "text": "銓敘部部長及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2734.wav",
        "text": "內政部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2735.wav",
        "text": "我們對於現職的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2736.wav",
        "text": "看有什麼方法再給他多增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2737.wav",
        "text": "這才是正辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2738.wav",
        "text": "這個還是違反憲法第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2739.wav",
        "text": "及憲法第7條平等原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2740.wav",
        "text": "乃至於同時違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2741.wav",
        "text": "財政紀律法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2742.wav",
        "text": "我不希望大家再來做最後衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2743.wav",
        "text": "應該可以好好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2744.wav",
        "text": "冷靜來考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2745.wav",
        "text": "既然黃國昌委員也談到牛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2746.wav",
        "text": "牛煦庭委員也談到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2747.wav",
        "text": "我希望大家稍微冷靜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2748.wav",
        "text": "我們現在休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2749.wav",
        "text": "請各黨團協商5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2750.wav",
        "text": "5分鐘之後就要宣布協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16105/2751.wav",
        "text": "協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/0.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1.wav",
        "text": "各位列席的委員請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2.wav",
        "text": "\n時間已經到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3.wav",
        "text": "我先介紹一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/4.wav",
        "text": "今天蒞臨的行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/5.wav",
        "text": "閣員及官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/6.wav",
        "text": "我們非常歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/7.wav",
        "text": "衛生福利部的邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/8.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/9.wav",
        "text": "社會保險司的劉司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/10.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/11.wav",
        "text": "法規會的陳參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/12.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/13.wav",
        "text": "中央健康保險署的石署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/14.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/15.wav",
        "text": "行政院主計總處的陳副主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/16.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/17.wav",
        "text": "國家發展委員會人力發展處的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/18.wav",
        "text": "阮專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/19.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/20.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/21.wav",
        "text": "也跟各位列席的委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/22.wav",
        "text": "我們訂好是3點鐘開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/23.wav",
        "text": "但現在已經3點01分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/24.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/25.wav",
        "text": "還沒有黨團幹部到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/26.wav",
        "text": "\n跟所有黨團幹部還有委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/27.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨來電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/28.wav",
        "text": "大概晚5到10分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/29.wav",
        "text": "會到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/30.wav",
        "text": "不好意思請大家再等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/31.wav",
        "text": "也跟邱部長還有各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/32.wav",
        "text": "說一聲抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/33.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/34.wav",
        "text": "剛剛來電話通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/35.wav",
        "text": "大概晚10分鐘左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/36.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/37.wav",
        "text": "請大家輕鬆一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/38.wav",
        "text": "你誰叫你們昨天把我們抹紅成那個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/39.wav",
        "text": "也沒收到道歉你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/40.wav",
        "text": "你們黨團幹部確定不來嗎\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/41.wav",
        "text": "昭姿委員確定黨團幹部不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/42.wav",
        "text": "所以目前只有我會出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/43.wav",
        "text": "韓院長您裁示我可不可以發言朝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/44.wav",
        "text": "他當然有授權給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/45.wav",
        "text": "但是我們黨真的希望吳委員可以對我們做個道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/46.wav",
        "text": "因為你把我們抹紅得太嚴重了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/47.wav",
        "text": "而且我陳昭姿不能讓你抹紅的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/48.wav",
        "text": "我們現在為了開會能夠專心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/49.wav",
        "text": "我們把門再管制一下謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/50.wav",
        "text": "\n昭姿委員謝謝你稍微等一下\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/51.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部現在台灣民眾黨黨團幹部沒有到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/52.wav",
        "text": "這個對朝野協商來說是不具法定效力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/53.wav",
        "text": "第一個請陳昭姿委員再跟你黨團幹部聯絡最起碼來一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/54.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個請聯絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/55.wav",
        "text": "第二個在等待過程我們不能一味地這樣等下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/56.wav",
        "text": "我們還是請黨團還有很多熱心的委員也到了現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/57.wav",
        "text": "加上邱部長還有衛福部很多官員都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/58.wav",
        "text": "我們可以先把意見來表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/59.wav",
        "text": "也許等一下他們會有黨團幹部到現場來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/60.wav",
        "text": "會有新的契機發生我們再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/61.wav",
        "text": "一現在我們併案協商的是全民健康保險法第62條條文修正草案共五案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/62.wav",
        "text": "分別是王育敏等19位委員蘇清泉等28位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/63.wav",
        "text": "及國民黨黨團分別擬具全民健康保險法第62條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/64.wav",
        "text": "二逕付二讀兩案(一)謝衣鳯等21位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/65.wav",
        "text": "(二)楊瓊瓔等26位委員分別擬具全民健康保險法第62條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/66.wav",
        "text": "現在主要爭議點就在於是否須於法律明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/67.wav",
        "text": "醫療服務總點數每點費用下限問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/68.wav",
        "text": "這是一個爭議點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/69.wav",
        "text": "剛才已經介紹完列席的邱部長及各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/70.wav",
        "text": "(一)社會福利及衛生環境委員會於今年5月2日完成審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/71.wav",
        "text": "(二)於5月15日6月19日及7月5日進行黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/72.wav",
        "text": "但是並沒有完成協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/73.wav",
        "text": "四我們現在開始進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/74.wav",
        "text": "五我們繼續還要接著討論附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/75.wav",
        "text": "我想我們主要的爭議點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/76.wav",
        "text": "能不能請王育敏召集委員先發言好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/77.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/78.wav",
        "text": "稍等一下我程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/79.wav",
        "text": "今天民眾黨黨團幹部沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/80.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員來他們應該內部有授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/81.wav",
        "text": "簽名是最後的事情所以應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/82.wav",
        "text": "沒有所謂不具效力的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/83.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召的提醒但是一定要黨團幹部簽字這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/84.wav",
        "text": "我非常地堅持但沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/85.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員等一下可以發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/86.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊已經在路上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/87.wav",
        "text": "好的太好了我們先請召集委員王育敏委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/88.wav",
        "text": "我想有關於全民健保法第62條的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/89.wav",
        "text": "事實上在委員會我擔任召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/90.wav",
        "text": "其實也舉辦過公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/91.wav",
        "text": "這個事情為什麼一定非修法不可呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/92.wav",
        "text": "主要其實是現在衛福部的給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/93.wav",
        "text": "對於健保點值並沒有保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/94.wav",
        "text": "所以它是非常浮動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/95.wav",
        "text": "前陣子臺北市醫師公會跟新北市醫師公會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/96.wav",
        "text": "都行文給立法院它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/97.wav",
        "text": "它說最近案件數就是流感上升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/98.wav",
        "text": "加上COVID之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/99.wav",
        "text": "他們的點值下降到只有零點八幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/100.wav",
        "text": "衛福部常常說都有保九"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/101.wav",
        "text": "都有到0.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/102.wav",
        "text": "事實上連0.9都不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/103.wav",
        "text": "就是現行這個點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/104.wav",
        "text": "你沒有給它保障基本點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/105.wav",
        "text": "所以在這樣的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/106.wav",
        "text": "他們都很痛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/107.wav",
        "text": "醫界是很痛苦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/108.wav",
        "text": "就是一個不確定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/109.wav",
        "text": "\n所以醫界現在的訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/110.wav",
        "text": "其實非常明白就三件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/111.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是要保障健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/112.wav",
        "text": "前一陣子包括臺大醫院跟北榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/113.wav",
        "text": "兩位院長他們都有開個記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/114.wav",
        "text": "他們出來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/115.wav",
        "text": "說他們只要求要保障健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/116.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院院長說最好是0.92到0.95"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/117.wav",
        "text": "這個是最有權威的兩大醫院的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/118.wav",
        "text": "他們的訴求還是希望要保障健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/119.wav",
        "text": "這樣子他們實質在運作上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/120.wav",
        "text": "之後會不會又被整個健保署倒扣回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/121.wav",
        "text": "對他們來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/122.wav",
        "text": "他說沒有一個醫院的營運這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/123.wav",
        "text": "可以穩健地運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/124.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/125.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我們今天會討論這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/126.wav",
        "text": "就是健保總額成長率太低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/127.wav",
        "text": "所以提高健保總額成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/128.wav",
        "text": "這個也是醫界的訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/129.wav",
        "text": "我想部長也應該認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/130.wav",
        "text": "總額如果夠的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/131.wav",
        "text": "我們也不用入法去保障健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/132.wav",
        "text": "點值自動就會升上來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/133.wav",
        "text": "所以提高健保總額成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/134.wav",
        "text": "今天如果入法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/135.wav",
        "text": "整個健保總額成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/136.wav",
        "text": "相對當然也會提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/137.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個其實最重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/138.wav",
        "text": "我們要體恤第一線醫事人員的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/139.wav",
        "text": "今天我們保障了健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/140.wav",
        "text": "讓醫院有充分的營運費用之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/141.wav",
        "text": "他們可以為醫事人員加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/142.wav",
        "text": "我想這個是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/143.wav",
        "text": "大家每次在這一些疾病疫情的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/144.wav",
        "text": "都會說我們一線的醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/145.wav",
        "text": "真的非常地辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/146.wav",
        "text": "他們非常地血汗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/147.wav",
        "text": "但是事情過了之後就忘了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/148.wav",
        "text": "所以大家還記得嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/149.wav",
        "text": "要選舉的時候11月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/150.wav",
        "text": "他自己說幫醫護人員請命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/151.wav",
        "text": "他要求當時的行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/152.wav",
        "text": "要撥補預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/153.wav",
        "text": "然後他還要求當時的健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/154.wav",
        "text": "要給到1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/155.wav",
        "text": "這是當時賴清德總統選舉之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/156.wav",
        "text": "他說他要幫醫護人員請命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/157.wav",
        "text": "然後還要求行政院要增加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/158.wav",
        "text": "\n我想今天國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/159.wav",
        "text": "包括蘇清泉委員跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/160.wav",
        "text": "就是希望我們可以明確保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/161.wav",
        "text": "這麼辛苦在第一線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/162.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要確保醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/163.wav",
        "text": "是要永續地運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/164.wav",
        "text": "整個政府有責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/165.wav",
        "text": "給付給醫院的健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/166.wav",
        "text": "應該要有一定的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/167.wav",
        "text": "而不是像現在這樣子浮動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/168.wav",
        "text": "其實是為了醫療人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/169.wav",
        "text": "為了他們的第一線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/170.wav",
        "text": "也為了整個醫療院所的永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/171.wav",
        "text": "醫療院所永續才有健保的永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/172.wav",
        "text": "所以希望透過這次修法的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/173.wav",
        "text": "我們真的可以做到三點保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/174.wav",
        "text": "提高健保總成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/175.wav",
        "text": "為醫事人員加薪這三件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/176.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/177.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們召集委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/178.wav",
        "text": "王育敏委員講得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/179.wav",
        "text": "現在我們三個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/180.wav",
        "text": "輪流發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/181.wav",
        "text": "就請邱部長準備發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/182.wav",
        "text": "我們首先請國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/183.wav",
        "text": "林思銘委員首副請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/184.wav",
        "text": "然後請柯總召吳思瑤委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/185.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/186.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/187.wav",
        "text": "以及我們衛福部邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/188.wav",
        "text": "我想健保點值這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/189.wav",
        "text": "我們在上次的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/190.wav",
        "text": "其實大概也談得滿久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/191.wav",
        "text": "我想衛福部也有充分表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/192.wav",
        "text": "衛福部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/193.wav",
        "text": "但是我想我們還是基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/194.wav",
        "text": "整個未來醫療品質的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/195.wav",
        "text": "以及讓我們的醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/196.wav",
        "text": "讓我們臺灣的醫療環境能夠更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/197.wav",
        "text": "我們還是認為健保的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/198.wav",
        "text": "要有保底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/199.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有保底的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/200.wav",
        "text": "我想不管是醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/201.wav",
        "text": "或者我們醫護大家都很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/202.wav",
        "text": "每天就是更操勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/203.wav",
        "text": "但是應該獲得的報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/204.wav",
        "text": "造成整個醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/205.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法給他們加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/206.wav",
        "text": "所以他們真的是叫做血汗醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/207.wav",
        "text": "很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/208.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是希望衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/209.wav",
        "text": "你要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/210.wav",
        "text": "如果你認為這個法不應該修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/211.wav",
        "text": "但是你要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/212.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止我們完全看不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/213.wav",
        "text": "所以我想如果今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/214.wav",
        "text": "衛福部沒有辦法去說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/215.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這樣的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/216.wav",
        "text": "會造成整個國家的財務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/217.wav",
        "text": "有什麼大的不適當的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/218.wav",
        "text": "我想我們還是會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/219.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有辦法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/220.wav",
        "text": "這個案子我們就來處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/221.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/222.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝林思銘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/223.wav",
        "text": "首席副書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/224.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們柯建銘總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/225.wav",
        "text": "院長各位列席人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/226.wav",
        "text": "這問題在上次我們談了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/227.wav",
        "text": "也談很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/228.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的講法不外乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/229.wav",
        "text": "──沒有超過上次講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/230.wav",
        "text": "嘛第一個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/231.wav",
        "text": "王育敏委員剛才講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/232.wav",
        "text": "一個事情說你開過公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/233.wav",
        "text": "結論就是非修法不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/234.wav",
        "text": "我們今天談要修法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/235.wav",
        "text": "也並非那個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/236.wav",
        "text": "然後表決通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/237.wav",
        "text": "然後就是要照這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/238.wav",
        "text": "這樣修一個點值一塊錢的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/239.wav",
        "text": "是要上千億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/240.wav",
        "text": "保費又不增加的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/241.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天要講一個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/242.wav",
        "text": "選舉的時候的一些政見和說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/243.wav",
        "text": "我知道那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/244.wav",
        "text": "侯友宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/245.wav",
        "text": "大家都很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/246.wav",
        "text": "沒有你等一下你聽我講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/247.wav",
        "text": "我們把事實釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/248.wav",
        "text": "大家不要胡亂拗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/249.wav",
        "text": "我們都很理性在談事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/250.wav",
        "text": "所以當然醫界也都很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/251.wav",
        "text": "醫界也都是我的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/252.wav",
        "text": "也是在座各位的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/253.wav",
        "text": "他們醫界現在所碰到的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/254.wav",
        "text": "團體也看過韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/255.wav",
        "text": "我也看過我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/256.wav",
        "text": "在選前的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/257.wav",
        "text": "這是一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/258.wav",
        "text": "但是我相信每個人都想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/259.wav",
        "text": "說我們能夠滿足所有的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/260.wav",
        "text": "可以加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/261.wav",
        "text": "啦點值的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/262.wav",
        "text": "什麼都來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/263.wav",
        "text": "但是我們要看整個健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/264.wav",
        "text": "一直增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/265.wav",
        "text": "現在總額已經20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/266.wav",
        "text": "了現在已經到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/267.wav",
        "text": "所以要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/268.wav",
        "text": "這是債務的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/269.wav",
        "text": "不是單一個解決的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/270.wav",
        "text": "我相信不是這麼一回事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/271.wav",
        "text": "想去解決這問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/272.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得我們應該理性來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/273.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/274.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點保障點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/275.wav",
        "text": "我想每一個人都希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/276.wav",
        "text": "能夠給你保障當然最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/277.wav",
        "text": "也能夠加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/278.wav",
        "text": "醫事人員的辛苦大家也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/279.wav",
        "text": "每個行業都有它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/280.wav",
        "text": "它辛苦的一面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/281.wav",
        "text": "我的講法就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/282.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/283.wav",
        "text": "比較不贊成所謂非修法不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/284.wav",
        "text": "這第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/285.wav",
        "text": "修法也不是立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/286.wav",
        "text": "提一個法修了然後國家付500多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/287.wav",
        "text": "大家瞭解這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/288.wav",
        "text": "面也不符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/289.wav",
        "text": "至於賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/290.wav",
        "text": "在選舉講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/291.wav",
        "text": "他也講他知道很痛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/292.wav",
        "text": "以一點一塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/293.wav",
        "text": "為目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/294.wav",
        "text": "他是醫界出身的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/295.wav",
        "text": "他很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/296.wav",
        "text": "以一塊錢為目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/297.wav",
        "text": "這是一種大家的期許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/298.wav",
        "text": "嘛他沒有說一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/299.wav",
        "text": "那你不懂大家來討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/300.wav",
        "text": "嘛短期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/301.wav",
        "text": "中期長期應該怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/302.wav",
        "text": "政府所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/303.wav",
        "text": "的健康投資要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/304.wav",
        "text": "有些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/305.wav",
        "text": "不應該塞進健保的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/306.wav",
        "text": "也應該拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/307.wav",
        "text": "包括政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/308.wav",
        "text": "所以我的看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/309.wav",
        "text": "法就是說我們儘量朝一個理性的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/310.wav",
        "text": "來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/311.wav",
        "text": "單一直線的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/312.wav",
        "text": "講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/313.wav",
        "text": "我想可能不大適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/314.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/315.wav",
        "text": "投資太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/316.wav",
        "text": "這是不爭的事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/317.wav",
        "text": "包括醫療投資也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/318.wav",
        "text": "我們在OECD國家是百分比不到70"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/319.wav",
        "text": "前一次我也一再強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/320.wav",
        "text": "因為在這樣的狀況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/321.wav",
        "text": "我們給付的扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/322.wav",
        "text": "非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/323.wav",
        "text": "我自己身在健保署當專家委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/324.wav",
        "text": "甚至召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/325.wav",
        "text": "長達將近三十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/326.wav",
        "text": "我以癌症來做舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/327.wav",
        "text": "只有適應症的三分之一不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/328.wav",
        "text": "而且常常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/329.wav",
        "text": "限制病人使用的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/330.wav",
        "text": "不管他的情況是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/331.wav",
        "text": "好轉或繼續穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/332.wav",
        "text": "但是就把藥停下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/333.wav",
        "text": "剩下你要自費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/334.wav",
        "text": "現在新興的癌藥每年大概都上百萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/335.wav",
        "text": "上百萬以上沒有人付得起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/336.wav",
        "text": "或民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/337.wav",
        "text": "一直都說不宜做這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/338.wav",
        "text": "只有說不做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/339.wav",
        "text": "該做什麼卻始終都沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/340.wav",
        "text": "也沒有提出修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/341.wav",
        "text": "也沒有提出配套作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/342.wav",
        "text": "這是不負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/343.wav",
        "text": "在委員會我們提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/344.wav",
        "text": "三項附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/345.wav",
        "text": "我先把它講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/346.wav",
        "text": "要提出優先次序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/347.wav",
        "text": "跟執行的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/348.wav",
        "text": "之一是點值保障的範疇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/349.wav",
        "text": "優先用於提升醫事人員的薪酬待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/350.wav",
        "text": "當然包括很重要的護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/351.wav",
        "text": "能夠獲得改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/352.wav",
        "text": "第二個針對指示藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/353.wav",
        "text": "依法退出健保給付擬定時程表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/354.wav",
        "text": "健保署不要再帶頭違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/355.wav",
        "text": "不然有本事就把這條法律改掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/356.wav",
        "text": "應該回歸健保要保大病小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/357.wav",
        "text": "病症民眾自己照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/358.wav",
        "text": "因為眼前的健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/359.wav",
        "text": "非常地嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/360.wav",
        "text": "有非常大的缺口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/361.wav",
        "text": "第三個逐步設定合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/362.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有一個官員敢提藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/363.wav",
        "text": "事實上有700億是藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/364.wav",
        "text": "為什麼有這個藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/365.wav",
        "text": "呢因為長期的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/366.wav",
        "text": "的專業服務費不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/367.wav",
        "text": "所以逼迫醫院跟醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/368.wav",
        "text": "以藥養醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/369.wav",
        "text": "正正當當賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/370.wav",
        "text": "他們用醫療專業來服務照顧大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/371.wav",
        "text": "他們有權利得到正正當當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/372.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我以下提出幾點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/373.wav",
        "text": "衛福部這邊能夠理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/374.wav",
        "text": "等一下我希望能有清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/375.wav",
        "text": "時程或是優先次序的確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/376.wav",
        "text": "\n本席提出我們民眾黨的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/377.wav",
        "text": "因為我們的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/378.wav",
        "text": "他也理解我們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/379.wav",
        "text": "純粹的點值還不足以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/380.wav",
        "text": "改善現在健保的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/381.wav",
        "text": "第一個當然要講的是指示藥不給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/382.wav",
        "text": "因為根據目前第51條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/383.wav",
        "text": "除非你把它修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/384.wav",
        "text": "這個論點是在於大家都鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/385.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣人大概平均每年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/386.wav",
        "text": "看病17到18次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/387.wav",
        "text": "你又不斷說只要我們少一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/388.wav",
        "text": "就醫機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/389.wav",
        "text": "每人每年少一次就醫的機會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/390.wav",
        "text": "就可以減少375億點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/391.wav",
        "text": "相當於三百零多億的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/392.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼不去做這樣的努力呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/393.wav",
        "text": "而且這是回歸法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/394.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個藥價調整"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/395.wav",
        "text": "700億的藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/396.wav",
        "text": "但是全臺灣400家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/397.wav",
        "text": "的議價能力完全不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/398.wav",
        "text": "所以大醫院是大者恆大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/399.wav",
        "text": "強者恆強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/400.wav",
        "text": "我們整個醫療結構是扭曲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/401.wav",
        "text": "專業服務費的調升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/402.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我也提到你想連醫師看一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/403.wav",
        "text": "診都兩百多塊錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/404.wav",
        "text": "遑論其他的醫療人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/405.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我還提到醫院盈餘的一定比例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/406.wav",
        "text": "是醫療第一好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/407.wav",
        "text": "\n我們臺灣輸太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/408.wav",
        "text": "這是民眾所不理解的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/409.wav",
        "text": "除了看病方便他們把健保的滿意度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/410.wav",
        "text": "事實上他們不知道我們的癌症存活率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/411.wav",
        "text": "我們的新生兒死亡率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/412.wav",
        "text": "我們的糖尿病合併症死亡率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/413.wav",
        "text": "我們的平均壽命都遠遠落後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/414.wav",
        "text": "很多國家包括鄰近的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/415.wav",
        "text": "都在末段班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/416.wav",
        "text": "段班\n再者醫療科技的評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/417.wav",
        "text": "一定要好好處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/418.wav",
        "text": "要確定錢花在刀口上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/419.wav",
        "text": "但是怎麼評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/420.wav",
        "text": "我們現在還留在非常落後的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/421.wav",
        "text": "沒有升級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/422.wav",
        "text": "沒有進階"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/423.wav",
        "text": "一直留在2007年的算法也就是加減的算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/424.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法把真正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/425.wav",
        "text": "醫療費用改善國人的品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/426.wav",
        "text": "包括讓孩子回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/427.wav",
        "text": "學校上課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/428.wav",
        "text": "包括讓成年人回到職場工作增加生產力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/429.wav",
        "text": "包括如何減輕家庭的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/430.wav",
        "text": "包括如何減少長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/431.wav",
        "text": "這都是衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/432.wav",
        "text": "的部分衛福部改名就是因為它是衛生福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/433.wav",
        "text": "部而不再是純粹的衛生署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/434.wav",
        "text": "配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/435.wav",
        "text": "或是作法我希望今天能夠得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/436.wav",
        "text": "有一個優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/437.wav",
        "text": "初步資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/438.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/439.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳昭姿委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/440.wav",
        "text": "然後請吳思瑤委員發言接著請邱部長準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/441.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/442.wav",
        "text": "這個題目我們透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/443.wav",
        "text": "不管是委員會的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/444.wav",
        "text": "或是上一次的協商都充分對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/445.wav",
        "text": "我想民進黨團絕對是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/446.wav",
        "text": "支持國家增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/447.wav",
        "text": "對於健康醫療的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/448.wav",
        "text": "這沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/449.wav",
        "text": "我們也絕對是全力想方設法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/450.wav",
        "text": "一起來改良醫護的工作環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/451.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們要共同努力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/452.wav",
        "text": "當然很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/453.wav",
        "text": "也一定全力來改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/454.wav",
        "text": "健保制度這都是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/455.wav",
        "text": "一定要做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/456.wav",
        "text": "\n但是現在回到這個法案的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/457.wav",
        "text": "第一個是保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/458.wav",
        "text": "然後第二個要入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/459.wav",
        "text": "當然在制度面我們也"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/460.wav",
        "text": "多次的論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/461.wav",
        "text": "如果點值入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/462.wav",
        "text": "就形同讓健保總額支付的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/463.wav",
        "text": "制度會被打破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/464.wav",
        "text": "健保的永續運作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/465.wav",
        "text": "堪慮甚至會引發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/466.wav",
        "text": "城鄉差距失衡的副作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/467.wav",
        "text": "在制度面我們也多所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/468.wav",
        "text": "談及在法制面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/469.wav",
        "text": "還是要提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/470.wav",
        "text": "立委提案增加政府的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/471.wav",
        "text": "這對於預算法以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/472.wav",
        "text": "財政紀律法裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/473.wav",
        "text": "都有所扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/474.wav",
        "text": "所以法制面還是要請委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/475.wav",
        "text": "多所斟酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/476.wav",
        "text": "在財務面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/477.wav",
        "text": "當然我們都知道如果保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/478.wav",
        "text": "點值0.95要增加705億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/479.wav",
        "text": "更嚴峻的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/480.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的安全準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/481.wav",
        "text": "可能明（114）年就一次用罄了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/482.wav",
        "text": "所以現行費率如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/483.wav",
        "text": "支應的話可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/484.wav",
        "text": "113年底就要對人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/485.wav",
        "text": "這可能會是連帶的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/486.wav",
        "text": "這個事情茲事體大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/487.wav",
        "text": "\n回過頭來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/488.wav",
        "text": "我們要做的是檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/489.wav",
        "text": "整個支付標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/490.wav",
        "text": "而不是單純去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/491.wav",
        "text": "調整點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/492.wav",
        "text": "更不是點值入法這個事情要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/493.wav",
        "text": "也希望等一下衛福部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/494.wav",
        "text": "其實上一次協商很可惜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/495.wav",
        "text": "我們並沒有給邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/496.wav",
        "text": "足夠的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/497.wav",
        "text": "現在衛福部對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/498.wav",
        "text": "如何用行政措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/499.wav",
        "text": "由公務預算來支應等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/500.wav",
        "text": "其實有很多的配套都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/501.wav",
        "text": "提高這都是他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/502.wav",
        "text": "的行政作為也就是不入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/503.wav",
        "text": "不修法的處理我希望等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/504.wav",
        "text": "大家能讓行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/505.wav",
        "text": "部門多一點說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/506.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一點我要補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/507.wav",
        "text": "剛剛育敏委員也都提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/508.wav",
        "text": "我也關照到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/509.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院跟榮總院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/510.wav",
        "text": "聯合報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/511.wav",
        "text": "聯合報是說健保點值入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/512.wav",
        "text": "保障1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/513.wav",
        "text": "臺大院長吳明賢是不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/514.wav",
        "text": "他有他的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/515.wav",
        "text": "然後這是中央社的報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/516.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院跟北榮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/517.wav",
        "text": "院長兩個龍頭都表態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/518.wav",
        "text": "不贊成健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/519.wav",
        "text": "每點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/520.wav",
        "text": "這是新聞也是他們的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/521.wav",
        "text": "我可以再進入他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/522.wav",
        "text": "像吳明賢院長也提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/523.wav",
        "text": "點值1點1元的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/524.wav",
        "text": "恐怕會導致醫界衝量"
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        "text": "沒有辦法這是人性"
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        "text": "這樣的入法"
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        "text": "審酌而且這會造成"
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        "text": "健保制度設計另一個層面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/530.wav",
        "text": "的嚴重問題當然"
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        "text": "榮總院長陳威明"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/532.wav",
        "text": "那當然如何以"
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        "text": "保9然後行政作為再努力"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/534.wav",
        "text": "往上調這是醫界"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/535.wav",
        "text": "都努力也都樂見其成"
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        "text": "的事但是兩個醫院的龍頭"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/537.wav",
        "text": "不支持用入法"
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        "text": "的方式來保障"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/539.wav",
        "text": "點值1點1元"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/540.wav",
        "text": "\n當然大家都會提到賴清德總統"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/541.wav",
        "text": "的說法其實昨天大家也看到"
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        "text": "新聞昨天賴清德總統參加了"
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        "text": "藥師公會的活動"
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        "text": "在場很多"
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        "text": "同仁都在"
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        "text": "也還原他當初的說法"
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        "text": "當然總統也強力"
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        "text": "責成行政部門要用各種"
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        "text": "能夠緩解一些壓力\n所以我很"
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        "text": "希望我們很理性地坐在這裡討論"
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        "text": "這個問題如果能夠行政"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/552.wav",
        "text": "部門就靠你們的功力趕快"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/553.wav",
        "text": "拿出你們完整的配套充分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/554.wav",
        "text": "在野黨的委員大家的目標都一致"
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        "text": "來協助醫界然後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/556.wav",
        "text": "提升我們的醫療投資"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/557.wav",
        "text": "我們的目標是一致的但是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/558.wav",
        "text": "不入法不用入法的方式"
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        "text": "要說服大家"
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        "text": "你們一樣能夠做到反而真的"
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        "text": "入法可能造成了其他的副作用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/562.wav",
        "text": "後果也不是大家所樂見的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/563.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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        "text": "我想我們大家都非常期待邱部長"
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        "text": "等一下來做出說明部長你有三種"
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        "text": "都對你期待很高請說明"
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        "text": "謝謝院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/570.wav",
        "text": "更謝謝各黨團的代表"
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        "text": "跟各位我敬愛的委員"
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        "text": "還有所有的工作夥伴"
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        "text": "衷心地感謝各黨團"
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        "text": "還有所有的委員"
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        "text": "為了我們臺灣醫療品質"
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        "text": "的尊嚴還有他們"
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        "text": "收入的維持特別是"
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        "text": "院所的順利運作"
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        "text": "這也是二十年來我們"
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        "text": "不管是在醫師公會或者"
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        "text": "都是以這三個原則"
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        "text": "在努力"
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        "text": "現在的醫療環境比較不好"
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        "text": "我們真的每一個人都有責任"
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        "text": "昨天晚上我們也很感動"
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        "text": "賴總統在藥師公會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/589.wav",
        "text": "全聯會會員代表大會裡面"
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        "text": "特別再強調"
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        "text": "醫界所碰到的任何問題"
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        "text": "都是他以及我們"
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        "text": "行政部門必須要"
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        "text": "來解決的"
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        "text": "也曾經提到我2018年"
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        "text": "跟大家一樣很希望"
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        "text": "能夠讓醫療"
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        "text": "我們就是往這方面在"
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        "text": "努力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/602.wav",
        "text": "賴總統"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/603.wav",
        "text": "一當選以後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/604.wav",
        "text": "馬上推動6場健康"
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        "text": "有史以來算是比較大型的"
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        "text": "醫政及健保改革會議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/607.wav",
        "text": "收集了1,200位"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/608.wav",
        "text": "從生到死各個階段"
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        "text": "最好的照顧"
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        "text": "第四產期"
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        "text": "還有擴大整個篩檢"
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        "text": "廣度深度"
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        "text": "其實這個我們現在都"
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        "text": "很努力在做"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/618.wav",
        "text": "\n健保改革"
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        "text": "分為幾個部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/620.wav",
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        "text": "日以繼夜在進行"
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        "text": "第一個首先把應該"
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        "text": "由公務預算支出的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/624.wav",
        "text": "過去塞在健保的"
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        "text": "最近衛福部"
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        "text": "上上下下清出來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/627.wav",
        "text": "大家都毫無私心地"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/628.wav",
        "text": "應該是可以由公務預算的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/629.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們總共清出了17"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/630.wav",
        "text": "17大項理論上"
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        "text": "如果一年一年地做"
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        "text": "三年應該可以達到三百零多億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/634.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就是我們"
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        "text": "清出來的"
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        "text": "我們也希望"
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        "text": "給健保的"
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        "text": "這個部分也可以"
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        "text": "清出大概140億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/640.wav",
        "text": "這兩個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/641.wav",
        "text": "億\n大家覺得真正能夠"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/642.wav",
        "text": "讓點值成長的就是成長率"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/643.wav",
        "text": "跟各位報告一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/644.wav",
        "text": "真的也非常支持"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/645.wav",
        "text": "尤其行政院也非常支持"
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        "text": "高推估跟低推估"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/647.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/649.wav",
        "text": "應該可以增加"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/650.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣的一個情況之下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/651.wav",
        "text": "當然我們希望國發會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/652.wav",
        "text": "跟大家一起努力"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/653.wav",
        "text": "然後醫界也把"
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        "text": "整個政府行政部門的支持"
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        "text": "這樣的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/656.wav",
        "text": "我再度跟各位保證"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/657.wav",
        "text": "你給我時間"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/658.wav",
        "text": "我們一定保證"
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        "text": "中程方面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/668.wav",
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        "text": "這個部分也是未來要做的事情"
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        "text": "有效應用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/674.wav",
        "text": "抑制不必要的支出"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/675.wav",
        "text": "其實衛福部很積極在推動分級醫療"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/676.wav",
        "text": "跟家庭醫師制度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/677.wav",
        "text": "剛剛幾位"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/678.wav",
        "text": "我敬愛的委員都提到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/679.wav",
        "text": "看病太多次"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/680.wav",
        "text": "其實只要有家庭醫師制度"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/681.wav",
        "text": "就會少看太多次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/682.wav",
        "text": "會節省掉很多很多的醫療資源"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/683.wav",
        "text": "所以全面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/684.wav",
        "text": "實行"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/685.wav",
        "text": "其實國家也在做"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/686.wav",
        "text": "我記得10年前我跟"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/687.wav",
        "text": "當時準市長"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/688.wav",
        "text": "他想要在臺北市做家庭醫師制度"
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        "text": "我想黃副市長"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/690.wav",
        "text": "也很清楚"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/691.wav",
        "text": "可惜都沒有完全地落實"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/692.wav",
        "text": "其實我們已經有一個"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/693.wav",
        "text": "家庭醫師制度──社區醫療群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/694.wav",
        "text": "它已經是臺灣的驕傲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/695.wav",
        "text": "我們在基層醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/696.wav",
        "text": "由5到10個醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/697.wav",
        "text": "組成一個家庭醫師群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/698.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的預防保健成績"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/699.wav",
        "text": "一直維持在比較好的成績"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/700.wav",
        "text": "第二個在疫情當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/701.wav",
        "text": "我們做了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/702.wav",
        "text": "居家照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/703.wav",
        "text": "人都是靠這些家庭醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/704.wav",
        "text": "他們願意用視訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/705.wav",
        "text": "去關心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/706.wav",
        "text": "讓他在家裡不要衝急診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/707.wav",
        "text": "讓臺灣大醫院的急診不要倒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/708.wav",
        "text": "社區醫療群家庭醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/709.wav",
        "text": "當時對臺灣防疫的重大貢獻"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/710.wav",
        "text": "這個我們要繼續努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/711.wav",
        "text": "至於低風險的一些相關工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/712.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/713.wav",
        "text": "給基層醫療照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/714.wav",
        "text": "讓區域級以上的醫院可以保持能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/715.wav",
        "text": "但是它們的給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/716.wav",
        "text": "一定要合理地提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/717.wav",
        "text": "當然我們也會優化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/718.wav",
        "text": "健保雲端的各種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/719.wav",
        "text": "減少重複用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/720.wav",
        "text": "檢驗檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/721.wav",
        "text": "醫療服務的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/722.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會合理地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/723.wav",
        "text": "來抑制不當的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/724.wav",
        "text": "來檢討藥品跟醫材的給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/725.wav",
        "text": "規範這個也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/726.wav",
        "text": "\n我想這樣的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/727.wav",
        "text": "不但可以讓健保永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/728.wav",
        "text": "就應該可以在這一年內得到很好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/729.wav",
        "text": "健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/730.wav",
        "text": "值當然更重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/731.wav",
        "text": "的就是我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/732.wav",
        "text": "治療它根本的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/733.wav",
        "text": "把根本的問題解決的話健保才能夠永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/734.wav",
        "text": "有很多的方法可以來改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/735.wav",
        "text": "醫療的環境改善健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/736.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/737.wav",
        "text": "有一年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/738.wav",
        "text": "來做這些努力如果真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/739.wav",
        "text": "做得還不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/740.wav",
        "text": "我們再來檢討這是衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/741.wav",
        "text": "的立場以上報告謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/742.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/743.wav",
        "text": "邱部長很有誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/744.wav",
        "text": "講真的連我自己都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/745.wav",
        "text": "很感動他保證0.9以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/746.wav",
        "text": "給他一年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/747.wav",
        "text": "但是不管怎麼樣我把邱部長的重點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/748.wav",
        "text": "我再簡短扼要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/749.wav",
        "text": "地向大家報告一下這是很有意義的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/750.wav",
        "text": "互動\n接下來我們開放各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/751.wav",
        "text": "可以發言第一位蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/752.wav",
        "text": "發言第二位陳菁徽委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/753.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其他的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/754.wav",
        "text": "我要登記──王正旭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/755.wav",
        "text": "好請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/756.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/757.wav",
        "text": "要特別報告的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/758.wav",
        "text": "我們的總額不是今天才開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/759.wav",
        "text": "做我們總額已經做22年了22年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/760.wav",
        "text": "最糟糕的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/761.wav",
        "text": "過去的這8年蔡英文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/762.wav",
        "text": "執政越來越糟糕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/763.wav",
        "text": "每一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/764.wav",
        "text": "醫療的成長跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/765.wav",
        "text": "核定的成長是不成比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/766.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛一直在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/767.wav",
        "text": "0.9就很爽啊很好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/768.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/769.wav",
        "text": "這件事情今天如果沒處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/770.wav",
        "text": "這屆會期沒處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/771.wav",
        "text": "以後又沒有了再拖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/772.wav",
        "text": "又是10年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/773.wav",
        "text": "然後所有的醫護人員就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/774.wav",
        "text": "用腳走路用腳投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/775.wav",
        "text": "就一個一個走掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/776.wav",
        "text": "賴總統跟卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/777.wav",
        "text": "有空的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/778.wav",
        "text": "去各大醫院的急診室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/779.wav",
        "text": "走一走瞧一瞧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/780.wav",
        "text": "什麼情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/781.wav",
        "text": "\n上個禮拜我在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/782.wav",
        "text": "跟卓院長總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/783.wav",
        "text": "時我有問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/784.wav",
        "text": "我說院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/785.wav",
        "text": "你知道你明年會生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/786.wav",
        "text": "幾次病嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/787.wav",
        "text": "他說他不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/788.wav",
        "text": "他說他也不知道在座的行政官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/789.wav",
        "text": "也沒人知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/790.wav",
        "text": "但是我們有一個單位叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/791.wav",
        "text": "行政院我們有一個國發會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/792.wav",
        "text": "明年要花多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/793.wav",
        "text": "這不是邱泰源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/794.wav",
        "text": "部長的層級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/795.wav",
        "text": "部長在做立委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/796.wav",
        "text": "他的提案他在臉書寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/797.wav",
        "text": "的我都找出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/798.wav",
        "text": "他講的最量化的一次是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/799.wav",
        "text": "0.92要到1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/800.wav",
        "text": "要455億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/801.wav",
        "text": "現在突然說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/802.wav",
        "text": "1點1塊錢要100多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/803.wav",
        "text": "怎麼算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/804.wav",
        "text": "什麼0.95要七百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/805.wav",
        "text": "怎麼算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/806.wav",
        "text": "這10年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/807.wav",
        "text": "每一年差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/808.wav",
        "text": "醫界這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/809.wav",
        "text": "每一年4500億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/810.wav",
        "text": "所以我們所有醫界的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/811.wav",
        "text": "因此現在沒有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/812.wav",
        "text": "反過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/813.wav",
        "text": "改善勞動條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/814.wav",
        "text": "增加薪資等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/815.wav",
        "text": "新冠從去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/816.wav",
        "text": "截止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/817.wav",
        "text": "丟到健保總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/818.wav",
        "text": "點值大幅下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/819.wav",
        "text": "今年又來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/820.wav",
        "text": "今天早上講的美國最新的KP.2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/821.wav",
        "text": "這個病毒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/822.wav",
        "text": "又毒又強又快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/823.wav",
        "text": "可能再過幾個月就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/824.wav",
        "text": "會襲捲臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/825.wav",
        "text": "這種還是丟到健保裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/826.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/827.wav",
        "text": "7萬個新病例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/828.wav",
        "text": "再上個禮拜是10萬個新病例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/829.wav",
        "text": "這個全部都是丟給健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/830.wav",
        "text": "丟給醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/831.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個我看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/832.wav",
        "text": "健保署真的是很棒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/833.wav",
        "text": "它一天到晚就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/834.wav",
        "text": "開一開就丟給醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/835.wav",
        "text": "去承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/836.wav",
        "text": "昨天我們石崇良署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/837.wav",
        "text": "很英明他講了46項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/838.wav",
        "text": "的達文西手術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/839.wav",
        "text": "要給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/840.wav",
        "text": "誰付健保總額付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/841.wav",
        "text": "然後跟病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/842.wav",
        "text": "收個材料費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/843.wav",
        "text": "這個手術好不好這個手術非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/844.wav",
        "text": "啊這個手術是劃時代的進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/845.wav",
        "text": "我們當然希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/846.wav",
        "text": "當然用這種手術是很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/847.wav",
        "text": "你要用那些有限的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/848.wav",
        "text": "做無限的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/849.wav",
        "text": "然後一天到晚開菜單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/850.wav",
        "text": "一天到晚請客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/851.wav",
        "text": "就不錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/852.wav",
        "text": "不用叫臺大榮總的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/853.wav",
        "text": "來情緒勒索"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/854.wav",
        "text": "但是他不敢說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/855.wav",
        "text": "啊大家都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/856.wav",
        "text": "醫界的老兵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/857.wav",
        "text": "大家都很瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/858.wav",
        "text": "\n我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/859.wav",
        "text": "現在衛福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/860.wav",
        "text": "3個月後就不記得了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/861.wav",
        "text": "所以我很明確地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/862.wav",
        "text": "保底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/863.wav",
        "text": "然後我也退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/864.wav",
        "text": "卑微的請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/865.wav",
        "text": "退到這樣再下去不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/866.wav",
        "text": "謝謝蘇清泉委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/867.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請陳菁徽委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/868.wav",
        "text": "請王正旭委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/869.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席謝謝關心這個議題的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/870.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我們衛福部的長官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/871.wav",
        "text": "在這邊其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/872.wav",
        "text": "滿沉重的因為我們已經走到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/873.wav",
        "text": "第三次的協商了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/874.wav",
        "text": "但是在這整個協商的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/875.wav",
        "text": "越拖其實醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/876.wav",
        "text": "是不斷地在崩壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/877.wav",
        "text": "多人在收看這個頻道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/878.wav",
        "text": "是不是拿1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/879.wav",
        "text": "我想這是大家都同意的而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/880.wav",
        "text": "政府保障我們人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/881.wav",
        "text": "的健康保障醫事人員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/882.wav",
        "text": "工作權尊嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/883.wav",
        "text": "還有平等權本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/884.wav",
        "text": "就是天經地義的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/885.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛有講到1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/886.wav",
        "text": "1點1元可能會造成醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/887.wav",
        "text": "療的浪費我想問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/888.wav",
        "text": "這邊有厲害的人可以告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/889.wav",
        "text": "多少錢就不會造成浪費嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/890.wav",
        "text": "幾元不會造成浪費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/891.wav",
        "text": "0.95不會0.92"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/892.wav",
        "text": "不會0.9一定不會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/893.wav",
        "text": "這邊有專家可以告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/894.wav",
        "text": "一點多少是不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/895.wav",
        "text": "被浪費的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/896.wav",
        "text": "當然臺大院長還有講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/897.wav",
        "text": "去年有一個很好的醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/898.wav",
        "text": "服務國際評比是由全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/899.wav",
        "text": "世界的商務客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/900.wav",
        "text": "評比臺灣是醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/901.wav",
        "text": "服務第一名那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/902.wav",
        "text": "臺大的院長很痛心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/903.wav",
        "text": "疾首地說他看到這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/904.wav",
        "text": "調查一點都不快樂他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/905.wav",
        "text": "如果他是一個企業的CEO"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/906.wav",
        "text": "早就已經被開除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/907.wav",
        "text": "因為他深知這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/908.wav",
        "text": "醫療服務第一名是長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/909.wav",
        "text": "壓榨醫護的血汗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/910.wav",
        "text": "所造成的\n在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/911.wav",
        "text": "我也對部長很不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/912.wav",
        "text": "啦因為上次講了您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/913.wav",
        "text": "2018年的發言以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/914.wav",
        "text": "現在也找到您2016"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/915.wav",
        "text": "年的發言您當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/916.wav",
        "text": "是第9屆的立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/917.wav",
        "text": "你在財政委員會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/918.wav",
        "text": "跟主計總處做質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/919.wav",
        "text": "您講到說主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/920.wav",
        "text": "保障醫護人員的工作權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/921.wav",
        "text": "這就是政府最基本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/922.wav",
        "text": "的責任醫護人員今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/923.wav",
        "text": "不是很惡霸地跟你要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/924.wav",
        "text": "要5毛給1塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/925.wav",
        "text": "現在是希望做1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/926.wav",
        "text": "的工作可以收到1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/927.wav",
        "text": "這麼簡單您還問主計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/928.wav",
        "text": "長說請問全臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/929.wav",
        "text": "有哪一種工作哪一個機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/930.wav",
        "text": "的薪水是用總額的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/931.wav",
        "text": "當預算不夠薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/932.wav",
        "text": "就打九折打八折"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/933.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的嗎這是您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/934.wav",
        "text": "2016年總質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/935.wav",
        "text": "問朱澤民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/936.wav",
        "text": "主計長的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/937.wav",
        "text": "我也希望可以喚回您的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/938.wav",
        "text": "初衷跟您的回憶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/939.wav",
        "text": "因為您當時剛上任立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/940.wav",
        "text": "人員這個總額的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/941.wav",
        "text": "是不對的甚至您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/942.wav",
        "text": "當時2016年也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/943.wav",
        "text": "除了您通過1點1元的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/944.wav",
        "text": "臨時提案您還講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/945.wav",
        "text": "一定要打破健保的總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/946.wav",
        "text": "還給醫療公道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/947.wav",
        "text": "才能發揮基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/948.wav",
        "text": "才能社區化所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/949.wav",
        "text": "其實醫界對您也是非常期盼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/950.wav",
        "text": "更是有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/951.wav",
        "text": "醫界的人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/952.wav",
        "text": "是在最後號召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/953.wav",
        "text": "全部的人他們聽到賴總統說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/954.wav",
        "text": "還是要回來投給賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/955.wav",
        "text": "最後才轉向回來投票的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/956.wav",
        "text": "所以大家昨天看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/957.wav",
        "text": "電視是很傷心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/958.wav",
        "text": "因為投票前說1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/959.wav",
        "text": "然後投票完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/960.wav",
        "text": "就說請大家一定要三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/961.wav",
        "text": "\n我也在這邊更新一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/962.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/963.wav",
        "text": "繼續協商我們繼續往後協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/964.wav",
        "text": "我都可以不斷地把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/965.wav",
        "text": "每一週的急診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/966.wav",
        "text": "亂象拿出來給各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/967.wav",
        "text": "臺灣說少子化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/968.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要照顧所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/969.wav",
        "text": "小朋友的健康權益結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/970.wav",
        "text": "現在大家知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/971.wav",
        "text": "除了COVID以外還有各種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/972.wav",
        "text": "病毒肆虐所以所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/973.wav",
        "text": "醫學專家都說今年的夏天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/974.wav",
        "text": "非常不平靜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/975.wav",
        "text": "現在的小朋友在急診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/976.wav",
        "text": "室要等3天才能住院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/977.wav",
        "text": "坐救護車陪小朋友到處轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/978.wav",
        "text": "院去找有沒有住院的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/979.wav",
        "text": "名字但是執政黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/980.wav",
        "text": "也告訴我今年是他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/981.wav",
        "text": "歷年來接到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/982.wav",
        "text": "沒有病床的陳情已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/983.wav",
        "text": "到了失控的程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/984.wav",
        "text": "有一個新聞所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/985.wav",
        "text": "醫師看了好痛心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/986.wav",
        "text": "他是一個醫師親自"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/987.wav",
        "text": "目睹並且把它寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/988.wav",
        "text": "出來說他的感想這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/989.wav",
        "text": "他第一次看到在急診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/990.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有病床所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/991.wav",
        "text": "有一個人是坐在輪椅上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/992.wav",
        "text": "被電擊器電擊救回來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/993.wav",
        "text": "所有的專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/994.wav",
        "text": "使用電擊器當然是躺著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/995.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在居然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/996.wav",
        "text": "癱瘓到他是坐在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/997.wav",
        "text": "輪椅上被電擊器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/998.wav",
        "text": "電擊\n大家都講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/999.wav",
        "text": "得很棒說要改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1000.wav",
        "text": "要落實分級醫療這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1001.wav",
        "text": "其實講了9年我也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1002.wav",
        "text": "在上次跟陳建仁前院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1003.wav",
        "text": "還有薛瑞元前部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1004.wav",
        "text": "醫療白皮書政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1005.wav",
        "text": "拿出來再把歷年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1006.wav",
        "text": "分級醫療的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1007.wav",
        "text": "全部整理給他們看結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1008.wav",
        "text": "過了8年到醫學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1009.wav",
        "text": "中心就醫的比例完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1010.wav",
        "text": "沒有降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1011.wav",
        "text": "所以他9年前的醫療改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1012.wav",
        "text": "是沒有用的\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1013.wav",
        "text": "\n既然我們改革沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1014.wav",
        "text": "用其實醫護人員就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1015.wav",
        "text": "用腳投票而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1016.wav",
        "text": "他們會到別的產業去發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1017.wav",
        "text": "等你真的改革完畢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1018.wav",
        "text": "其實他們已經消失了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1019.wav",
        "text": "所以2015年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1020.wav",
        "text": "蔡前總統就說要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1021.wav",
        "text": "提升醫護人員點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1022.wav",
        "text": "結果是越來越低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1023.wav",
        "text": "您在2016年說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1024.wav",
        "text": "要打破健保總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1025.wav",
        "text": "2018年說要達到1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1026.wav",
        "text": "接著賴總統也"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1027.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的發言\n為什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1028.wav",
        "text": "我們要入法呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1029.wav",
        "text": "因為入法就是給我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1030.wav",
        "text": "最基層的醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1031.wav",
        "text": "一個定心丸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1032.wav",
        "text": "昨天賴總統說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1033.wav",
        "text": "是最好的方法但是是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1034.wav",
        "text": "一個簡單的方法可是到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1035.wav",
        "text": "什麼是最好的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1036.wav",
        "text": "是拼命擠壓醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1037.wav",
        "text": "血汗做功德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1038.wav",
        "text": "這個就是最好的方法嗎因為過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1039.wav",
        "text": "9年是這樣可是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1040.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道這個房間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1041.wav",
        "text": "裡面的大象沒有人要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1042.wav",
        "text": "講出來而已因為現在的慘況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1043.wav",
        "text": "啊醫事人員護理師的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1044.wav",
        "text": "怒氣高壓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1045.wav",
        "text": "工作量離職率已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1046.wav",
        "text": "到了最頂最頂的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1047.wav",
        "text": "我也要呼應剛剛蘇委員說的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1048.wav",
        "text": "我們到底是怎麼算出來100"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1049.wav",
        "text": "多億又是從哪一個基準點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1050.wav",
        "text": "開始算的這個也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1051.wav",
        "text": "邱部長之前問過主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1052.wav",
        "text": "我們是從總額比較低的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1053.wav",
        "text": "年度來計算嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1054.wav",
        "text": "這次我們為了討論健保法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1055.wav",
        "text": "衛福部書面報告也提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1056.wav",
        "text": "我們這個預算可能會影響到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1057.wav",
        "text": "教育文化經濟國防"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1058.wav",
        "text": "等等部會每一個部會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1059.wav",
        "text": "應該很積極地爭取自己"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1060.wav",
        "text": "才對而不是幫忙說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1061.wav",
        "text": "其他的部門也要錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1062.wav",
        "text": "啊是衛福部說要增加太多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1063.wav",
        "text": "預算還是主計總處要增加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1064.wav",
        "text": "太多預算這個計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1065.wav",
        "text": "標準其實大家現在看不出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1066.wav",
        "text": "到底是怎麼算出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1067.wav",
        "text": "\n當然基層的醫護"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1068.wav",
        "text": "人員也跟我講到他們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1069.wav",
        "text": "黨的委員就在各大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1070.wav",
        "text": "委員會一直講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1071.wav",
        "text": "數發部沒有辦法好好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1072.wav",
        "text": "落實他們的工作連兒少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1073.wav",
        "text": "性剝削影像都下架不了卻每"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1074.wav",
        "text": "年的預算超過200億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1075.wav",
        "text": "我們也覺得難道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1076.wav",
        "text": "這些錢就不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1077.wav",
        "text": "白花而撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1078.wav",
        "text": "給醫事人員就是白花嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1079.wav",
        "text": "今天大家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1080.wav",
        "text": "很傷心的是這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1081.wav",
        "text": "很多人最後的投票動力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1082.wav",
        "text": "結果卻變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1083.wav",
        "text": "好像恐嚇大家說我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1084.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有漲保費是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1085.wav",
        "text": "做不到的但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1086.wav",
        "text": "所有的醫事人員也看到勞動部部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1087.wav",
        "text": "說勞保是絕對不會倒的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1088.wav",
        "text": "撥補就是一種改革"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1089.wav",
        "text": "我也想知道邱部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1090.wav",
        "text": "聽到這樣子的話是情何以堪"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1091.wav",
        "text": "\n我們今天"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1092.wav",
        "text": "要求1點1元入法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1093.wav",
        "text": "是讓我們所有已經要崩壞"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1094.wav",
        "text": "的醫事人員吃下一個定心丸"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1095.wav",
        "text": "沒有人有辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1096.wav",
        "text": "去計算他今年的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1097.wav",
        "text": "營運他有沒有辦法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1098.wav",
        "text": "在今年年底拿到多少"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1099.wav",
        "text": "還希望可以要求公務預算撥補"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1100.wav",
        "text": "基金可以常態化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1101.wav",
        "text": "讓政府對人民的健康照護"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1102.wav",
        "text": "把健康當成一個投資真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1103.wav",
        "text": "希望大家不要當成一個成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1104.wav",
        "text": "因為這本來就是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1105.wav",
        "text": "照顧人民健康還有第一線"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1106.wav",
        "text": "作戰的醫事人員最基本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1107.wav",
        "text": "義務我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1108.wav",
        "text": "真的每年這樣子"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1109.wav",
        "text": "接到陳情苦苦地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1110.wav",
        "text": "哀求衛福部提供撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1111.wav",
        "text": "他們照顧人民的健康"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1112.wav",
        "text": "是天經地義而不是每年這樣子"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1113.wav",
        "text": "苦苦地哀求大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1114.wav",
        "text": "所以在這邊真的是很卑微地拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1115.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1116.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳菁徽委員的發言\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1117.wav",
        "text": "我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1118.wav",
        "text": "王正旭委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1119.wav",
        "text": "請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1120.wav",
        "text": "我是王正旭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1121.wav",
        "text": "我來自醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1122.wav",
        "text": "剛剛不管誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1123.wav",
        "text": "提到的醫療困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1124.wav",
        "text": "我都非常非常地理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1125.wav",
        "text": "我也真的很認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1126.wav",
        "text": "醫療資源一定要再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1127.wav",
        "text": "一定要適度地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1128.wav",
        "text": "有效地擴充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1129.wav",
        "text": "這個回應剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1130.wav",
        "text": "王召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1131.wav",
        "text": "在一開始就提到了提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1132.wav",
        "text": "總額的成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1133.wav",
        "text": "是必須要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1134.wav",
        "text": "而且是要有效地來提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1135.wav",
        "text": "\n對我來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1136.wav",
        "text": "點值入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1137.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1138.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉委員陳菁徽委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1139.wav",
        "text": "或者是大家感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1140.wav",
        "text": "目前的醫療困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1141.wav",
        "text": "這個是值得我們探討的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1142.wav",
        "text": "事實上總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1143.wav",
        "text": "柯總召也提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1144.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤幹事長也提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1145.wav",
        "text": "我們如果真的是要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1146.wav",
        "text": "困境來解決的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1147.wav",
        "text": "除了這個部分以外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1148.wav",
        "text": "會不會還有其他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1149.wav",
        "text": "更好的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1150.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長也說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1151.wav",
        "text": "預計要在未來一年裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1152.wav",
        "text": "在短中長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1153.wav",
        "text": "能夠讓醫療資源"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1154.wav",
        "text": "擴充的同時也去解決這些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1155.wav",
        "text": "困境的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1156.wav",
        "text": "我想我們就是要理性地來探討"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1157.wav",
        "text": "我們面對這些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1158.wav",
        "text": "困境的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1159.wav",
        "text": "那如果有其他方式的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1160.wav",
        "text": "可以讓這個困境得以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1161.wav",
        "text": "紓解的同時又不會去衍生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1162.wav",
        "text": "其他的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1163.wav",
        "text": "臺大的院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1164.wav",
        "text": "榮總的院長所提出來的這些觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1165.wav",
        "text": "大家都已經有非常多的討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1166.wav",
        "text": "我這邊再"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1167.wav",
        "text": "引用一位沈政男醫師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1168.wav",
        "text": "所提到的一個觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1169.wav",
        "text": "他是說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1170.wav",
        "text": "只要有點值保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1171.wav",
        "text": "就會衝破健保總額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1172.wav",
        "text": "大家可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1173.wav",
        "text": "有不同的瞭解或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1174.wav",
        "text": "不同觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1175.wav",
        "text": "文章裡面所表述的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1176.wav",
        "text": "他說只要有點值保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1177.wav",
        "text": "不管是1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1178.wav",
        "text": "或1點0.95元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1179.wav",
        "text": "最後都可能衝破"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1180.wav",
        "text": "健保預算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1181.wav",
        "text": "導致健保費必須一直調漲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1182.wav",
        "text": "他的理由認為這是一個賽局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1183.wav",
        "text": "他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1184.wav",
        "text": "醫師看病跟車廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1185.wav",
        "text": "修車不一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1186.wav",
        "text": "一來醫師是跟健保請錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1187.wav",
        "text": "不是跟病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1188.wav",
        "text": "再者醫師說要檢查開藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1189.wav",
        "text": "打針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1190.wav",
        "text": "病人很難掉頭就走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1191.wav",
        "text": "去找另一家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1192.wav",
        "text": "不像修車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1193.wav",
        "text": "我覺得太貴或沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1194.wav",
        "text": "就不讓你修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1195.wav",
        "text": "所以醫師看病全憑職業良心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1196.wav",
        "text": "不像修車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1197.wav",
        "text": "會有消費者端的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1198.wav",
        "text": "制衡力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1199.wav",
        "text": "因此健保必須設計一個制衡力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1200.wav",
        "text": "充量做了不該做的檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1201.wav",
        "text": "多開了沒有幫助的藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1202.wav",
        "text": "醫師都是憑著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1203.wav",
        "text": "我們的職業道德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1204.wav",
        "text": "職業良心在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1205.wav",
        "text": "診治我們的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1206.wav",
        "text": "這個是可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1207.wav",
        "text": "而且是大家都願意來做這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1208.wav",
        "text": "不過從賽局理論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1209.wav",
        "text": "來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1210.wav",
        "text": "這個其實是另外一個層次的擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1211.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1212.wav",
        "text": "針對這樣的擔心出現的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1213.wav",
        "text": "我們有什麼其他的因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1214.wav",
        "text": "我們如果用其他方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1215.wav",
        "text": "來讓這樣的事情不至於發生的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1216.wav",
        "text": "那臺灣民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1217.wav",
        "text": "在看病的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1218.wav",
        "text": "事實上他是得到最大的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1219.wav",
        "text": "這是我們所期待的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1220.wav",
        "text": "討論的同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1221.wav",
        "text": "這個點值入法以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1222.wav",
        "text": "導致後面的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1223.wav",
        "text": "引起一些更大的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1224.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1225.wav",
        "text": "謝謝王正旭委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1226.wav",
        "text": "下面有兩位登記的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1227.wav",
        "text": "一個洪孟楷委員一個莊瑞雄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1228.wav",
        "text": "我跟兩位委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1229.wav",
        "text": "我們先請中央健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1230.wav",
        "text": "石署長報告完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1231.wav",
        "text": "再請洪委員跟莊委員好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1232.wav",
        "text": "因為我們一直在這邊講我們要互動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1233.wav",
        "text": "\n麻煩請中央健康保險署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1234.wav",
        "text": "石署長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1235.wav",
        "text": "院長還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1236.wav",
        "text": "以下健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1237.wav",
        "text": "做一些補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1238.wav",
        "text": "總額的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1239.wav",
        "text": "健保的總額在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1240.wav",
        "text": "當年度總額是5,908億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1241.wav",
        "text": "8,364億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1242.wav",
        "text": "如果以這兩個年度來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1243.wav",
        "text": "如果化成年平均成長率的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1244.wav",
        "text": "大概在4.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1245.wav",
        "text": "總額實施開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1246.wav",
        "text": "是2003年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1247.wav",
        "text": "2003年是3,774億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1248.wav",
        "text": "這中間的成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1249.wav",
        "text": "年平均是4.27"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1250.wav",
        "text": "所以我必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1251.wav",
        "text": "在這裡澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1252.wav",
        "text": "在蔡英文總統執政期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1253.wav",
        "text": "年平均成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1254.wav",
        "text": "是高於之前的年度的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1255.wav",
        "text": "所以需要再利用這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1256.wav",
        "text": "澄清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1257.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1258.wav",
        "text": "低落的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1259.wav",
        "text": "它有很多的原因所造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1260.wav",
        "text": "當然總額應當要適當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1261.wav",
        "text": "成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1262.wav",
        "text": "但是也有一些使用上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1263.wav",
        "text": "利用的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1264.wav",
        "text": "所以在制度的設計面上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1265.wav",
        "text": "應該要同時的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1266.wav",
        "text": "成長的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1267.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長也特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1268.wav",
        "text": "把原本在總額裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1269.wav",
        "text": "的一些項目移出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1270.wav",
        "text": "由公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1271.wav",
        "text": "也是讓總額的餅可以變大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1272.wav",
        "text": "是總額的適度成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1273.wav",
        "text": "每年的總額成長是依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1274.wav",
        "text": "人口率的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1275.wav",
        "text": "還有考慮人口結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1276.wav",
        "text": "因為高齡化會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1277.wav",
        "text": "醫療支出的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1278.wav",
        "text": "所以也要考慮到人口結構的變化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1279.wav",
        "text": "第三個會考量到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1280.wav",
        "text": "經濟因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1281.wav",
        "text": "經濟成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1282.wav",
        "text": "服務成本指數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1283.wav",
        "text": "所以很多的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1284.wav",
        "text": "再加上服務密集度的改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1285.wav",
        "text": "在明年度也會考量到近年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1286.wav",
        "text": "通膨情形也會反映到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1287.wav",
        "text": "為什麼明年的總額成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1288.wav",
        "text": "預估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1289.wav",
        "text": "應該會是歷年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1290.wav",
        "text": "是最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1291.wav",
        "text": "但是更重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1292.wav",
        "text": "資源的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1293.wav",
        "text": "如何在這總額下面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1294.wav",
        "text": "來做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1295.wav",
        "text": "調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1296.wav",
        "text": "以及各個地域的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1297.wav",
        "text": "能夠平衡的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1298.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們也擬出了一些作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1299.wav",
        "text": "第一個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1300.wav",
        "text": "支付標準的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1301.wav",
        "text": "對於醫事人力投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1302.wav",
        "text": "占比比較高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1303.wav",
        "text": "不是靠機器的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1304.wav",
        "text": "是人力的付出比較高的支付項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1305.wav",
        "text": "一些急重難症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1306.wav",
        "text": "難症比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1307.wav",
        "text": "不願意投入的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1308.wav",
        "text": "那麼應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1309.wav",
        "text": "調高它的支付標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1310.wav",
        "text": "甚至保障點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1311.wav",
        "text": "在過去一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1312.wav",
        "text": "曾經也因為外科人力的低落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1313.wav",
        "text": "所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1314.wav",
        "text": "就手術的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1315.wav",
        "text": "已經是保障1點1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1316.wav",
        "text": "所以類似像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1317.wav",
        "text": "今年6月已經成立了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1318.wav",
        "text": "支付標準衡平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1319.wav",
        "text": "評量規劃專家小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1320.wav",
        "text": "在討論來修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1321.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1322.wav",
        "text": "是地域上的平衡問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1323.wav",
        "text": "山地離島資源不足的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1324.wav",
        "text": "其實它的人口正在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1325.wav",
        "text": "流失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1326.wav",
        "text": "如果按照原本總額的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1327.wav",
        "text": "它當然是會依據人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1328.wav",
        "text": "跟醫療的利用情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1329.wav",
        "text": "做配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1330.wav",
        "text": "做了一些保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1331.wav",
        "text": "對於這一些偏遠地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1332.wav",
        "text": "比如說今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1333.wav",
        "text": "離島地區的住院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1334.wav",
        "text": "點值通通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1335.wav",
        "text": "來支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1336.wav",
        "text": "人口比較少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1337.wav",
        "text": "我們也在規劃本島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1338.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1339.wav",
        "text": "服務的市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1340.wav",
        "text": "但是必須要保障它能夠營運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1341.wav",
        "text": "甚至我們是保障收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1342.wav",
        "text": "而不是只有點值的保障而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1343.wav",
        "text": "它會更高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1344.wav",
        "text": "齊頭式的點值保障的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1345.wav",
        "text": "那麼我們剛剛所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1346.wav",
        "text": "這一些調整措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1347.wav",
        "text": "能夠產生的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1348.wav",
        "text": "跟改革效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1349.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員也關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1350.wav",
        "text": "癌症用藥的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1351.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的限制是跟其他國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1352.wav",
        "text": "背景不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1353.wav",
        "text": "因為很多國家在新藥的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1354.wav",
        "text": "使用上都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1355.wav",
        "text": "很高額的部分負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1356.wav",
        "text": "但在臺灣我"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1357.wav",
        "text": "品沒有差額負擔是全額給付"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1358.wav",
        "text": "這是健保法的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1359.wav",
        "text": "同時對於重大傷病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1360.wav",
        "text": "還免部分負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1361.wav",
        "text": "所以也因為這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1362.wav",
        "text": "但是為了增進民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1363.wav",
        "text": "使用新藥的可近性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1364.wav",
        "text": "所以行政院也已經同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1365.wav",
        "text": "明年我們會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1366.wav",
        "text": "額外的公務預算來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1367.wav",
        "text": "挹注專款專用於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1368.wav",
        "text": "癌症的新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1369.wav",
        "text": "健保的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1370.wav",
        "text": "一方面能夠讓健保更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1371.wav",
        "text": "永續的發展一方面也改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1372.wav",
        "text": "民眾用藥的可近性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1373.wav",
        "text": "也要提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1374.wav",
        "text": "抑制不必要的醫療"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1375.wav",
        "text": "減少看病的次數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1376.wav",
        "text": "分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1377.wav",
        "text": "減少不必要的重複用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1378.wav",
        "text": "等等這一些我們也都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1379.wav",
        "text": "加強來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1380.wav",
        "text": "至於剛剛委員也有特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1381.wav",
        "text": "指示藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1382.wav",
        "text": "的給付問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1383.wav",
        "text": "在健保開辦的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1384.wav",
        "text": "延續公勞保時代"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1385.wav",
        "text": "的一些用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1386.wav",
        "text": "當時因為這一些指示藥品"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1387.wav",
        "text": "在公勞保時代就有給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1388.wav",
        "text": "所以它就同時納入了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1389.wav",
        "text": "但是至今也從過去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1390.wav",
        "text": "兩千多項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1391.wav",
        "text": "減少到現在大概是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1392.wav",
        "text": "我們也是逐步的在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1393.wav",
        "text": "去檢視它的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1394.wav",
        "text": "包含像兒童用藥的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1395.wav",
        "text": "必要性急救"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1396.wav",
        "text": "我們公共用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1397.wav",
        "text": "一定要有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1398.wav",
        "text": "其他的我們會逐步的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1399.wav",
        "text": "\n所以大概有這幾項的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1400.wav",
        "text": "再請各位委員指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1401.wav",
        "text": "點值的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1402.wav",
        "text": "入法確實跟我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1403.wav",
        "text": "總額制度的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1404.wav",
        "text": "會有很大的扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1405.wav",
        "text": "考察謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1406.wav",
        "text": "謝謝石署長的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1407.wav",
        "text": "接下來請洪孟楷委員發言請"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1408.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1409.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長我想我這邊來做發言的時候"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1410.wav",
        "text": "我只先確定行政部門一個態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1411.wav",
        "text": "今天是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1412.wav",
        "text": "已經走到現在了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1413.wav",
        "text": "協商的部分就是大家各自把"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1414.wav",
        "text": "版本拿出來但很顯然的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1415.wav",
        "text": "到現在一個多小時過去了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1416.wav",
        "text": "行政部門是不是就是完全不考慮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1417.wav",
        "text": "這就是你們的態度是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1418.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何的變動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1419.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有版本你們就照原有的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1420.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在討論的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1421.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是國民黨修正"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1422.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是我們其他委員修正"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1423.wav",
        "text": "行政部門沒有任何版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1424.wav",
        "text": "就是依照原條文不變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1425.wav",
        "text": "是不是這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1426.wav",
        "text": "邱部長你要回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1427.wav",
        "text": "邱部長您可以簡單回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1428.wav",
        "text": "我想我們是希望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1429.wav",
        "text": "按照我剛剛所報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1430.wav",
        "text": "所以你們沒有版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1431.wav",
        "text": "你就是依照你剛剛報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1432.wav",
        "text": "的但你們沒有版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1433.wav",
        "text": "我們會全力努力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1434.wav",
        "text": "謝謝邱部長的回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1435.wav",
        "text": "國人民或關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1436.wav",
        "text": "健保改革的人大家都在看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1437.wav",
        "text": "2018年5月28號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1438.wav",
        "text": "也一樣邱泰源委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1439.wav",
        "text": "向衛福部次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1440.wav",
        "text": "請教為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1441.wav",
        "text": "點值1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1442.wav",
        "text": "會遭受到反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1443.wav",
        "text": "邱泰源委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1444.wav",
        "text": "臺灣健保覆蓋率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1445.wav",
        "text": "高達99%支出僅占"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1446.wav",
        "text": "GDP的67%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1447.wav",
        "text": "這些都是建立在醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1448.wav",
        "text": "的血汗付出而造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1449.wav",
        "text": "支付項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1450.wav",
        "text": "縮減支付金額下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1451.wav",
        "text": "新藥新科技無法進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1452.wav",
        "text": "健保市場等諸多原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1453.wav",
        "text": "更嚴重影響民眾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1454.wav",
        "text": "健康保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1455.wav",
        "text": "2018年邱泰源委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1456.wav",
        "text": "這樣子說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1457.wav",
        "text": "大家都還可以找得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1458.wav",
        "text": "\n我先說本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1459.wav",
        "text": "或是我們國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1460.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾沒有反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1461.wav",
        "text": "要做整體大規模的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1462.wav",
        "text": "醫療改革本來就應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1463.wav",
        "text": "要做因為冰凍三尺非一日之寒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1464.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1465.wav",
        "text": "針針對這部分提出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1466.wav",
        "text": "包括我們的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1467.wav",
        "text": "有民眾黨提的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1468.wav",
        "text": "或是我們國民黨委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1469.wav",
        "text": "或者是我們也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1470.wav",
        "text": "未來要趕快召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1471.wav",
        "text": "跨部會的醫療改革會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1472.wav",
        "text": "提出相關的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1473.wav",
        "text": "因為我們知道我們也沒有很天真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1474.wav",
        "text": "認為健保點值調到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1475.wav",
        "text": "1點1元或是1點0.95元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1476.wav",
        "text": "之後問題就解決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1477.wav",
        "text": "是要跨全面的醫療改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1478.wav",
        "text": "現在執政的是民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1479.wav",
        "text": "如果1月13號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1480.wav",
        "text": "是國民黨當選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1481.wav",
        "text": "國民黨一樣負起責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1482.wav",
        "text": "召開全國跨部會的醫療改革會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1483.wav",
        "text": "但是因為沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1484.wav",
        "text": "我們的總統候選人輸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1485.wav",
        "text": "所以現在執政的民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1486.wav",
        "text": "當然要負起責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1487.wav",
        "text": "可是我想強調的觀念是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1488.wav",
        "text": "這完全不衝突跟矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1489.wav",
        "text": "健保點值提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1490.wav",
        "text": "是因為現在已經有很多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1491.wav",
        "text": "因為他犧牲太久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1492.wav",
        "text": "而其他的改革能夠降低成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1493.wav",
        "text": "或者是增加新藥等等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1494.wav",
        "text": "這些部分這個本來也應該做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1495.wav",
        "text": "並行不悖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1496.wav",
        "text": "現在在講明天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1497.wav",
        "text": "我就已經沒有飯吃了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1498.wav",
        "text": "你跟我講一年後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1499.wav",
        "text": "我要帶你去峇里島度假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1500.wav",
        "text": "那完全邏輯是沒有辦法對焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1501.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我覺得還是回歸我剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1502.wav",
        "text": "如果今天行政部門的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1503.wav",
        "text": "只是我沒有要改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1504.wav",
        "text": "但是請相信我一年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1505.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也聽到我們部長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1506.wav",
        "text": "如果一年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1507.wav",
        "text": "改善環境改善爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1508.wav",
        "text": "真的不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1509.wav",
        "text": "再來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1510.wav",
        "text": "那是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1511.wav",
        "text": "就是現在討論的事情明年再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1512.wav",
        "text": "再讓我騙一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1513.wav",
        "text": "一年以後真的做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1514.wav",
        "text": "我講真的不是這樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1515.wav",
        "text": "啊部長我不是針對您個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1516.wav",
        "text": "我對事不對人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1517.wav",
        "text": "任何一個人在現在這個職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1518.wav",
        "text": "我都一樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1519.wav",
        "text": "我不是針對您個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1520.wav",
        "text": "重點是我們很多委員都講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1521.wav",
        "text": "當賴清德總統候選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1522.wav",
        "text": "健保點值1點1元的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1523.wav",
        "text": "很多民眾是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1524.wav",
        "text": "相信或以為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1525.wav",
        "text": "他已經想好財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1526.wav",
        "text": "想好方法想好解決的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1527.wav",
        "text": "所以願意在1月13號選擇他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1528.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1529.wav",
        "text": "1月13號選擇完他之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1530.wav",
        "text": "過了三四個月到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1531.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的代表居然講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1532.wav",
        "text": "那個是賴清德的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1533.wav",
        "text": "那個是目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1534.wav",
        "text": "我現在在發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1535.wav",
        "text": "因為這就是全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1536.wav",
        "text": "國人看到賴清德的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1537.wav",
        "text": "你越講只會自己越漏氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1538.wav",
        "text": "我再來講另外一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1539.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣說得過去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1540.wav",
        "text": "那就真的印證了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1541.wav",
        "text": "臺灣話的一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1542.wav",
        "text": "就是這個道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1543.wav",
        "text": "啊我在選前跟大家講1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1544.wav",
        "text": "結果大家相信了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1545.wav",
        "text": "但是選完四個月之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1546.wav",
        "text": "告訴你說那個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1547.wav",
        "text": "我的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1548.wav",
        "text": "我未來的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1549.wav",
        "text": "但是我先說我不扣賴清德總統帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1550.wav",
        "text": "因為賴清德總統沒有親口講這句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1551.wav",
        "text": "他只有親口講1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1552.wav",
        "text": "但他沒有講那是目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1553.wav",
        "text": "所以我不知道說這是不是柯總召的一個超譯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1554.wav",
        "text": "可是現在我們拉回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1555.wav",
        "text": "柯總召我們互相尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1556.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都是三長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1557.wav",
        "text": "所以你尊重我我尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1558.wav",
        "text": "你不尊重我我沒有辦法尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1559.wav",
        "text": "最後我只講啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1560.wav",
        "text": "賴清德講說1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1561.wav",
        "text": "是1月9號的新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1562.wav",
        "text": "他講說他最有能力解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1563.wav",
        "text": "這是賴清德的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1564.wav",
        "text": "在昨天他講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1565.wav",
        "text": "點值1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1566.wav",
        "text": "賴清德表達憂心並請三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1567.wav",
        "text": "那哪一個是賴清德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1568.wav",
        "text": "哪一個是我們現在的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1569.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們也有黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1570.wav",
        "text": "在講臺大醫院院長的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1571.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院院長的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1572.wav",
        "text": "要講就不要只講一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1573.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院院長的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1574.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院院長吳明賢表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1575.wav",
        "text": "修法保障點值1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1576.wav",
        "text": "恐會導致過度醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1577.wav",
        "text": "沒錯他講前半段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1578.wav",
        "text": "但是請聽後半段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1579.wav",
        "text": "他說建議保障點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1580.wav",
        "text": "朝有價健保發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1581.wav",
        "text": "等科別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1582.wav",
        "text": "從事有價醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1583.wav",
        "text": "能夠來發揮價格保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1584.wav",
        "text": "所以臺大醫院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1585.wav",
        "text": "吳明賢講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1586.wav",
        "text": "這也符合我們今天國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1587.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1588.wav",
        "text": "我們有很多委員提版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1589.wav",
        "text": "但國民黨團提的版本是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1590.wav",
        "text": "健保點值調漲成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1591.wav",
        "text": "這也是臺大醫院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1592.wav",
        "text": "專業來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1593.wav",
        "text": "要講比臺大醫院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1594.wav",
        "text": "來得好的可能沒幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1595.wav",
        "text": "我絕對不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1596.wav",
        "text": "所以我相信專業我尊重專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1597.wav",
        "text": "我支持健保點值調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1598.wav",
        "text": "如果說今天大家各自表述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1599.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的態度或是行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1600.wav",
        "text": "的態度還是說鐵板一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1601.wav",
        "text": "我就是不動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1602.wav",
        "text": "那抱歉就沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1603.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識沒有交集的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1604.wav",
        "text": "我想就依照相關議事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1605.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼處理就怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1606.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1607.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1608.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1609.wav",
        "text": "在場的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1610.wav",
        "text": "其實該怎麼處理我相信到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1611.wav",
        "text": "會有答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1612.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1613.wav",
        "text": "各個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1614.wav",
        "text": "尤其我看這些提案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1615.wav",
        "text": "其實我也認為提案的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1616.wav",
        "text": "不夠負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1617.wav",
        "text": "沒有講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1618.wav",
        "text": "醫療資源擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1619.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1620.wav",
        "text": "我頭腦裡面想得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1621.wav",
        "text": "只有兩個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1622.wav",
        "text": "政府投錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1623.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1624.wav",
        "text": "健保費提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1625.wav",
        "text": "嘛其實各政黨大家我們都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1626.wav",
        "text": "問題在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1627.wav",
        "text": "你說歷任的政府裡面對健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1628.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意識到這個嚴重性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1629.wav",
        "text": "都有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1630.wav",
        "text": "阿扁執政有沒有去提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1631.wav",
        "text": "有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1632.wav",
        "text": "馬英九執政有沒有去提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1633.wav",
        "text": "蔡英文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1634.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為社會進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1635.wav",
        "text": "了都希望對醫療人員有更大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1636.wav",
        "text": "我也意識到那個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1637.wav",
        "text": "最近我們很多民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1638.wav",
        "text": "都會來拜託說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1639.wav",
        "text": "都沒有病床這是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1640.wav",
        "text": "但重點是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1641.wav",
        "text": "是不是連結到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1642.wav",
        "text": "畫上等號\n其實也未必"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1643.wav",
        "text": "病床數不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1644.wav",
        "text": "或者因為剛好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1645.wav",
        "text": "有疫情或COVID"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1646.wav",
        "text": "還是防疫的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1647.wav",
        "text": "直接把它畫上等號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1648.wav",
        "text": "我覺得那又是另外一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1649.wav",
        "text": "還沒當部長以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1650.wav",
        "text": "每天在我辦公室混"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1651.wav",
        "text": "啊他講過什麼我最清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1652.wav",
        "text": "啊我也問過他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1653.wav",
        "text": "我說你在質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1654.wav",
        "text": "都說要提高點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1655.wav",
        "text": "你的意思是要保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1656.wav",
        "text": "嗎他說沒有要提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1657.wav",
        "text": "提高在我學法的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1658.wav",
        "text": "是入法才叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1659.wav",
        "text": "保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1660.wav",
        "text": "也就是說他過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1661.wav",
        "text": "當醫界醫師公會的理事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1662.wav",
        "text": "他幫醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1663.wav",
        "text": "幫這些醫護來爭取權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1664.wav",
        "text": "是合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1665.wav",
        "text": "他的身分是合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1666.wav",
        "text": "那我也問過他說你有要入法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1667.wav",
        "text": "他還跟我說沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1668.wav",
        "text": "所以也就是說你今天當了部長你就知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1669.wav",
        "text": "當家方知柴米貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1670.wav",
        "text": "你就知道鹽和米很貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1671.wav",
        "text": "但是我知道你當初不是要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1672.wav",
        "text": "立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1673.wav",
        "text": "你是要立法來保障是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1674.wav",
        "text": "啦\n另外我一直都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1675.wav",
        "text": "也有提到的這一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1676.wav",
        "text": "措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1677.wav",
        "text": "我們協商代表大家可以考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1678.wav",
        "text": "他那一些方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1679.wav",
        "text": "可不可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1680.wav",
        "text": "入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1681.wav",
        "text": "像蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1682.wav",
        "text": "我是真的好運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1683.wav",
        "text": "我最不想浪費醫療資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1684.wav",
        "text": "了我就沒付他錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1685.wav",
        "text": "有時候我會問一下王正旭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1686.wav",
        "text": "我都到處問一問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1687.wav",
        "text": "我是比較幸運有兩位醫師的同事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1688.wav",
        "text": "所以我就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1689.wav",
        "text": "我們現在確實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1690.wav",
        "text": "\n不要說我們看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1691.wav",
        "text": "我們光一直給它點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1692.wav",
        "text": "所以這個該改革的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1693.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是也做不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1694.wav",
        "text": "我們現在討論的只是在討論點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1695.wav",
        "text": "我們只是單純去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1696.wav",
        "text": "提高醫事人員的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1697.wav",
        "text": "讓他覺得滿足一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1698.wav",
        "text": "這樣而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1699.wav",
        "text": "老百姓萬一他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1700.wav",
        "text": "到醫院去這又是兩件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1701.wav",
        "text": "事了當然都有因果關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1702.wav",
        "text": "你說醫師的待遇不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1703.wav",
        "text": "醫護人員的待遇不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1704.wav",
        "text": "但是問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1705.wav",
        "text": "只有這兩樣你其他都沒有做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1706.wav",
        "text": "所以我倒比較認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1707.wav",
        "text": "剛剛石署長提出的這一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1708.wav",
        "text": "以後的方向是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1709.wav",
        "text": "但是你還是要比較具體一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1710.wav",
        "text": "啦洪孟楷的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1711.wav",
        "text": "聽起來是沒道理但是也有一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1712.wav",
        "text": "可參考的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1713.wav",
        "text": "你們全部都沒有版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1714.wav",
        "text": "那也很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1715.wav",
        "text": "你應該把你們剛剛講的這些措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1716.wav",
        "text": "差別是今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1717.wav",
        "text": "你們不是沒有方案你們只是不入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1718.wav",
        "text": "但是你們這個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1719.wav",
        "text": "要更具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1720.wav",
        "text": "告訴立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1721.wav",
        "text": "我這樣做是一種改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1722.wav",
        "text": "還不用讓老百姓的健保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1723.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1724.wav",
        "text": "你沒有說入法這我倒知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1725.wav",
        "text": "可是問題因為你今天是部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1726.wav",
        "text": "了立法院當然會提出另外意見說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1727.wav",
        "text": "入法是最簡單的一個保障的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1728.wav",
        "text": "但是像蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1729.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也提到他沒有堅持說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1730.wav",
        "text": "什麼1.1塊1塊他也有講到這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1731.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是再把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1732.wav",
        "text": "聚焦把它拉近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1733.wav",
        "text": "啊但話大家要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1734.wav",
        "text": "這個提案的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1735.wav",
        "text": "是在講都不調高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1736.wav",
        "text": "健保費的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1737.wav",
        "text": "不可以到時候你們講一講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1738.wav",
        "text": "有一個方案出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1739.wav",
        "text": "了如果醫療資源把它投進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1740.wav",
        "text": "政府本來就要擴大去投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1741.wav",
        "text": "但是如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1742.wav",
        "text": "方方面面都要去照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1743.wav",
        "text": "整個健保費這個我不相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1744.wav",
        "text": "謝謝莊瑞雄委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1745.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1746.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1747.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1748.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1749.wav",
        "text": "我想我跟在場多數的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1750.wav",
        "text": "一樣都是健保的受益者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1751.wav",
        "text": "當然我說多數人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1752.wav",
        "text": "是因為在場有三位醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1753.wav",
        "text": "還有包括我們部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1754.wav",
        "text": "健保受益者其中的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1755.wav",
        "text": "奉獻者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1756.wav",
        "text": "啦我們的受益其實來自於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1757.wav",
        "text": "很多醫事人員的付出跟奉獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1758.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1759.wav",
        "text": "這些我們健保受益者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1760.wav",
        "text": "而是得到他們合理的待遇這是它的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1761.wav",
        "text": "正確的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1762.wav",
        "text": "必須透過正確的方法來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1763.wav",
        "text": "達成\n我剛剛聽了半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1764.wav",
        "text": "健保從1995年實施到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1765.wav",
        "text": "明年是滿30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1766.wav",
        "text": "我是在1991年進入立法院當助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1767.wav",
        "text": "那時候洪奇昌委員在他的辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1768.wav",
        "text": "我們就研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1769.wav",
        "text": "健保的總額給付制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1770.wav",
        "text": "所以對這個制度我有一個基本的瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1771.wav",
        "text": "分子分母跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1772.wav",
        "text": "除數的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1773.wav",
        "text": "今天健保總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1774.wav",
        "text": "我們的預算總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1775.wav",
        "text": "它是逐年的在成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1776.wav",
        "text": "但是它除以我們的服務量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1777.wav",
        "text": "如果服務量增長的比這百分之四點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1778.wav",
        "text": "來得快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1779.wav",
        "text": "這是必然的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1780.wav",
        "text": "當我們把點值固定的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1781.wav",
        "text": "為了維持這個固定的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1782.wav",
        "text": "我們的總額預算就必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1783.wav",
        "text": "跟著服務量同步提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1784.wav",
        "text": "\n所以今天我們要談的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1785.wav",
        "text": "在1990年代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1786.wav",
        "text": "相較於其他國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1787.wav",
        "text": "幾乎很少採用這樣剛性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1788.wav",
        "text": "總額管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1789.wav",
        "text": "但是這個剛性的總額管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1790.wav",
        "text": "相較之下雖然我們國人不滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1791.wav",
        "text": "但相較世界各國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1792.wav",
        "text": "確實是有一個不錯的成績"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1793.wav",
        "text": "但這個成績很難維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1794.wav",
        "text": "\n我試問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1795.wav",
        "text": "因為點值這個東西是個事後的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1796.wav",
        "text": "不是一個事前的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1797.wav",
        "text": "我再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1798.wav",
        "text": "點值是事後得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1799.wav",
        "text": "就是你在前一年決定了總額預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1800.wav",
        "text": "然後當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1801.wav",
        "text": "有多少的服務量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1802.wav",
        "text": "除了之後就得到一個最後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1803.wav",
        "text": "點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1804.wav",
        "text": "所以點值是觀察我們醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1805.wav",
        "text": "有沒有得到應有的待遇的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1806.wav",
        "text": "一個事後的檢證指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1807.wav",
        "text": "\n我舉例來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1808.wav",
        "text": "我們今天可以立法去決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1809.wav",
        "text": "公務人員的考試及格率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1810.wav",
        "text": "必須是10%嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1811.wav",
        "text": "我們不可能事前訂出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1812.wav",
        "text": "必須10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1813.wav",
        "text": "因為每一年的考生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1814.wav",
        "text": "但是我們可以從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1815.wav",
        "text": "最後考生的及格率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1816.wav",
        "text": "來看一下供需之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1817.wav",
        "text": "有沒有需要調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1818.wav",
        "text": "舉例來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1819.wav",
        "text": "今天這裡沒有考試院的人員在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1820.wav",
        "text": "過去驗光師入法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1821.wav",
        "text": "它作為專業人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1822.wav",
        "text": "高考的一個項目之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1823.wav",
        "text": "一百零幾年我們開始有驗光師第一屆的考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1824.wav",
        "text": "那時候第一次考試的錄取率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1825.wav",
        "text": "考試院說太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1826.wav",
        "text": "以後驗光師滿街跑必須控制一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1827.wav",
        "text": "第二年降到不到個位數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1828.wav",
        "text": "考試院在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1829.wav",
        "text": "專業人員考試的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1830.wav",
        "text": "它會考量市場上需要的專業人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1831.wav",
        "text": "的服務有多少量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1832.wav",
        "text": "我每年准許讓多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1833.wav",
        "text": "這是一個事後管理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1834.wav",
        "text": "指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1835.wav",
        "text": "我們今天把一個事後管理的指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1836.wav",
        "text": "硬生生的入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1837.wav",
        "text": "就破壞了這個指標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1838.wav",
        "text": "觀察到的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1839.wav",
        "text": "影響到必要的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1840.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望今天我們用對的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1841.wav",
        "text": "還是抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1842.wav",
        "text": "當然我比你晚到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1843.wav",
        "text": "那時我是到立法院當助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1844.wav",
        "text": "關於這個問題我們用點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1845.wav",
        "text": "值作為提高醫事人員的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1846.wav",
        "text": "我們應該聽聽剛剛石署長講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1847.wav",
        "text": "對於我們屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1848.wav",
        "text": "很多偏遠地區的醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1849.wav",
        "text": "最大問題是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1850.wav",
        "text": "它讓提供服務的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1851.wav",
        "text": "要幫服務做把關去踩煞車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1852.wav",
        "text": "他們要扮演油門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1853.wav",
        "text": "照理說在一般的商業保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1854.wav",
        "text": "當中受服務者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1855.wav",
        "text": "要扮演煞車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1856.wav",
        "text": "當他沒有能力支付這麼多錢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1857.wav",
        "text": "就不會購買這些服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1858.wav",
        "text": "但今天我們是讓服務提供者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1859.wav",
        "text": "來判斷如果提供這個服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1860.wav",
        "text": "未來點值會下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1861.wav",
        "text": "那要不要提供這個服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1862.wav",
        "text": "我們去為難服務的提供者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1863.wav",
        "text": "要他們去踩煞車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1864.wav",
        "text": "這才是我們目前剛性的總額預算制當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1865.wav",
        "text": "因為點值浮動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1866.wav",
        "text": "所造成醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1867.wav",
        "text": "的為難之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1868.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我覺得具體來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1869.wav",
        "text": "衛服部應該就前一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1870.wav",
        "text": "的點值情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1871.wav",
        "text": "來檢討我們總額的成長是否足夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1872.wav",
        "text": "有沒有一些不必要的浮濫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1873.wav",
        "text": "從服務量的抑制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1874.wav",
        "text": "跟總額預算的提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1875.wav",
        "text": "能夠保障醫事人員合理的待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1876.wav",
        "text": "而不是把點值控制住了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1877.wav",
        "text": "享受健保的人身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1878.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我覺得健保費的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1879.wav",
        "text": "必然要有一個總額的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1880.wav",
        "text": "去控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1881.wav",
        "text": "我們現在談論點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1882.wav",
        "text": "似乎表面上在幫醫事人員增加他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1883.wav",
        "text": "們的待遇事實上錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1884.wav",
        "text": "點值只是檢討之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1885.wav",
        "text": "他們所付出的有沒有達到合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1886.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣的合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1887.wav",
        "text": "應該從事後服務量的增減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1888.wav",
        "text": "服務量增高的幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1889.wav",
        "text": "以及總預算提高的幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1890.wav",
        "text": "來促成點值能夠在來年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1891.wav",
        "text": "那是事後的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1892.wav",
        "text": "錄取率是多少嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1893.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1894.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鍾佳濱委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1895.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是陳昭姿委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1896.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1897.wav",
        "text": "拜託一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1898.wav",
        "text": "重複的就不用再說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1899.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們可以縮減時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1900.wav",
        "text": "後面還有好幾個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1901.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1902.wav",
        "text": "兩位首長就麻煩概括承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1903.wav",
        "text": "我知道部長才上任兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1904.wav",
        "text": "署長是上任1年5個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1905.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛提到的這些方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1906.wav",
        "text": "如果是可行的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1907.wav",
        "text": "我們今天不會有這麼漫長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1908.wav",
        "text": "或爭議性的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1909.wav",
        "text": "執政黨或是行政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1910.wav",
        "text": "門沒有提出相對的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1911.wav",
        "text": "這個真的是不負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1912.wav",
        "text": "而我要提的是不只是沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1913.wav",
        "text": "有時候還是反其道而行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1914.wav",
        "text": "請概括承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1915.wav",
        "text": "兩個首長所談的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1916.wav",
        "text": "一個叫分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1917.wav",
        "text": "一個叫資源配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1918.wav",
        "text": "但目前是反其道而行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1919.wav",
        "text": "不只是不動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1920.wav",
        "text": "是200萬人一間醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1921.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你們今天繼續增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1922.wav",
        "text": "去年還違規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1923.wav",
        "text": "增加了3家醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1924.wav",
        "text": "點值在惡化中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1925.wav",
        "text": "但醫學中心還是繼續在增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1926.wav",
        "text": "並惡化點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1927.wav",
        "text": "第二個如果病床增加會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1928.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你們現在還允許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1929.wav",
        "text": "1.2萬床的病床正在擴建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1930.wav",
        "text": "或準備擴建呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1931.wav",
        "text": "明明臺灣有40%的空床"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1932.wav",
        "text": "但是因為缺乏護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1933.wav",
        "text": "你們一邊談分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1934.wav",
        "text": "一邊反其道而行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1935.wav",
        "text": "我個人的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1936.wav",
        "text": "跟蘇清泉委員有一點一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1937.wav",
        "text": "請不要再找醫學中心的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1938.wav",
        "text": "來為執政黨做答辯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1939.wav",
        "text": "這是不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1940.wav",
        "text": "因為醫學中心相對存活得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1941.wav",
        "text": "病床滿意沒有缺護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1942.wav",
        "text": "出到大廳去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1943.wav",
        "text": "他們也樂得繼續照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1944.wav",
        "text": "分級醫療你們根本倒行逆施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1945.wav",
        "text": "\n關於資源配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1946.wav",
        "text": "針對急重難罕症沒有人反對要照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1947.wav",
        "text": "但是小病症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1948.wav",
        "text": "卻一直要裝在同一個籃子裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1949.wav",
        "text": "一個籃子沒有人退出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1950.wav",
        "text": "就一直加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1951.wav",
        "text": "科技一直進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1952.wav",
        "text": "而且研發費用規格越來越高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1953.wav",
        "text": "那你當然是裝不下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1954.wav",
        "text": "啊所以你今天談的這些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1955.wav",
        "text": "就算你努力如何去監測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1956.wav",
        "text": "或是可能無效的醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1957.wav",
        "text": "但是我們看不到成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1958.wav",
        "text": "所以今天才有這些討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1959.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望你們會很負責任地提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1960.wav",
        "text": "你們真的要做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1961.wav",
        "text": "而且要非常的具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1962.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛已經提到了第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1963.wav",
        "text": "在醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1964.wav",
        "text": "部分是不是可以在這裡承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1965.wav",
        "text": "下一次醫院評鑑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1966.wav",
        "text": "直接回歸到醫療網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1967.wav",
        "text": "不要再增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1968.wav",
        "text": "健保開辦之後是12"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1969.wav",
        "text": "現在是26家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1970.wav",
        "text": "還在繼續擴增"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1971.wav",
        "text": "病床的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1972.wav",
        "text": "請你們好好檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1973.wav",
        "text": "我們還需要1.2萬床病床嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1974.wav",
        "text": "還需要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1975.wav",
        "text": "我們明明有40%的空床"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1976.wav",
        "text": "那1.2萬床是怎麼來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1977.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1978.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳昭姿委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1979.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是柯委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1980.wav",
        "text": "但是我要跟黨團幹部還有閣員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1981.wav",
        "text": "柯總召發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1982.wav",
        "text": "我會喊休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1983.wav",
        "text": "我們再最後一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1984.wav",
        "text": "看可不可以求同存異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1985.wav",
        "text": "5分鐘之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1986.wav",
        "text": "我就進行處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1987.wav",
        "text": "\n請柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1988.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1989.wav",
        "text": "大概上次講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1990.wav",
        "text": "這次大家又講一輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1991.wav",
        "text": "了那也應該面對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1992.wav",
        "text": "院長講的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1993.wav",
        "text": "這個問題要如何面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1994.wav",
        "text": "大家一直在盍各言爾志"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1995.wav",
        "text": "然後涇渭分明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1996.wav",
        "text": "尤其有些不實言論也在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1997.wav",
        "text": "賴總統講的話是為目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1998.wav",
        "text": "一直在奚落過去邱部長當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/1999.wav",
        "text": "立委時的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2000.wav",
        "text": "那是提案而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2001.wav",
        "text": "不是入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2002.wav",
        "text": "\n我們今天要很務實來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2003.wav",
        "text": "包括蘇清泉講這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2004.wav",
        "text": "以後都用腳投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2005.wav",
        "text": "嘛醫師用腳投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2006.wav",
        "text": "這不是用恐嚇的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2007.wav",
        "text": "啦選舉已經剛剛結束而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2008.wav",
        "text": "我們要務實來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2009.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2010.wav",
        "text": "這裡有三個醫事人員不止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2011.wav",
        "text": "啦王正旭也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2012.wav",
        "text": "我不是只有醫生出身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2013.wav",
        "text": "而且我全程見證健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2014.wav",
        "text": "民國80年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2015.wav",
        "text": "那時候表決三天我都在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2016.wav",
        "text": "健保30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2017.wav",
        "text": "包括我們現在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2018.wav",
        "text": "教改30年也是檢討的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2019.wav",
        "text": "總額也是那時候最早就處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2020.wav",
        "text": "2013年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2021.wav",
        "text": "馬英九也想二代健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2022.wav",
        "text": "從家戶總所得改到補充保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2023.wav",
        "text": "那段歷史大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2024.wav",
        "text": "所以健保這30年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2025.wav",
        "text": "但是並不是說一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2026.wav",
        "text": "你不修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2027.wav",
        "text": "今天蘇清泉委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2028.wav",
        "text": "不用談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2029.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷也差不多是這樣的言論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2030.wav",
        "text": "聽起來是最直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2031.wav",
        "text": "尤其蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2032.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2033.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2034.wav",
        "text": "你本身是地區醫院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2035.wav",
        "text": "你應該利益迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2036.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2037.wav",
        "text": "1.0以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2038.wav",
        "text": "你的醫院一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2039.wav",
        "text": "至少增加一億多預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2040.wav",
        "text": "所以這個應該迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2041.wav",
        "text": "學長告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2042.wav",
        "text": "你要利益迴避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2043.wav",
        "text": "你改1.0的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2044.wav",
        "text": "你的醫院一年增加多少收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2045.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以這點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2046.wav",
        "text": "大家要很理性來談"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2047.wav",
        "text": "難道只有非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2048.wav",
        "text": "非修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2049.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員剛才談了一些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2050.wav",
        "text": "蠻合理的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2051.wav",
        "text": "但是他有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2052.wav",
        "text": "不要逆道而行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2053.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們要談也要有分級"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2054.wav",
        "text": "剛才邱部長講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2055.wav",
        "text": "家庭醫師制度等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2056.wav",
        "text": "所以今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2057.wav",
        "text": "最後講到這裡的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2058.wav",
        "text": "明天就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2059.wav",
        "text": "最後一天了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2060.wav",
        "text": "大家也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2061.wav",
        "text": "我看國民黨來勢洶洶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2062.wav",
        "text": "今天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2063.wav",
        "text": "已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2064.wav",
        "text": "就是表決表決以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2065.wav",
        "text": "向大家表態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2066.wav",
        "text": "這是一個最簡單的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2067.wav",
        "text": "並不是最負責的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2068.wav",
        "text": "院長說最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2069.wav",
        "text": "大家再協商看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2070.wav",
        "text": "但我們要他馬上長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2071.wav",
        "text": "哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2072.wav",
        "text": "事現在全部列舉出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2073.wav",
        "text": "我們來談"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2074.wav",
        "text": "邱部長也談過"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2075.wav",
        "text": "包括"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2076.wav",
        "text": "在政府部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2077.wav",
        "text": "也要挖出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2078.wav",
        "text": "啊所以很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2079.wav",
        "text": "會有方法來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2080.wav",
        "text": "逐漸改善的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2081.wav",
        "text": "已經很誠意地講出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2082.wav",
        "text": "這些方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2083.wav",
        "text": "道具就要拿出來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2084.wav",
        "text": "我們應該回到比較理性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2085.wav",
        "text": "不是今天在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2086.wav",
        "text": "講給醫師人員聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2087.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2088.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2089.wav",
        "text": "健保不是只有醫生而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2090.wav",
        "text": "我也是醫生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2091.wav",
        "text": "我也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2092.wav",
        "text": "我也想要幫忙他們但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2093.wav",
        "text": "你要照顧整個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2094.wav",
        "text": "整個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2095.wav",
        "text": "破損破壞的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2096.wav",
        "text": "影響所及是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2097.wav",
        "text": "就是病人全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2098.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個邏輯底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2099.wav",
        "text": "我希望大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2100.wav",
        "text": "傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2101.wav",
        "text": "你現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2102.wav",
        "text": "一句話就是定天下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2103.wav",
        "text": "不要修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2104.wav",
        "text": "但是要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2105.wav",
        "text": "短中長期要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2106.wav",
        "text": "他現在可以做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2107.wav",
        "text": "拿出list出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2108.wav",
        "text": "大家談一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2109.wav",
        "text": "共同決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2110.wav",
        "text": "這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2111.wav",
        "text": "才是比較理性務實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2112.wav",
        "text": "否則的話表決是最不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2113.wav",
        "text": "就是做做表演而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2114.wav",
        "text": "我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2115.wav",
        "text": "醫事人員看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2116.wav",
        "text": "你們這樣表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2117.wav",
        "text": "1點1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2118.wav",
        "text": "他們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2119.wav",
        "text": "這就做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2120.wav",
        "text": "這個幹什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2121.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2122.wav",
        "text": "我是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2123.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2124.wav",
        "text": "你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2125.wav",
        "text": "等一下休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2126.wav",
        "text": "你婉言相勸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2127.wav",
        "text": "那一排的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2128.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2129.wav",
        "text": "我們柯建銘總召像烏茲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2130.wav",
        "text": "衝鋒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2131.wav",
        "text": "全部都橫掃了一遍以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2132.wav",
        "text": "然後叫我來勸大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2133.wav",
        "text": "\n我們休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2134.wav",
        "text": "就座向各位黨團幹部各位列席委員還有我們邱部長各位列席官員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2135.wav",
        "text": "本案各黨團迄今仍然未能達成共識我們送院會處理\n下一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2136.wav",
        "text": "院長等一下是哪一個送院會處理是法還是法律啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2137.wav",
        "text": "法律啊對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2138.wav",
        "text": "我們全民健康保險法的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2139.wav",
        "text": "院長我也要講話啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2140.wav",
        "text": "好你說黃珊珊委員請發言柯建銘總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2141.wav",
        "text": "院長你不要想搞我我不是白癡你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2142.wav",
        "text": "我先跟你講的你還這樣他要講沒有關係給他先講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2143.wav",
        "text": "結果你要宣讀我說等一下我要講話你說好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2144.wav",
        "text": "今天才來立法院你把我當作白痴在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2145.wav",
        "text": "不是柯總召他剛剛過來說他希望徵詢發言我說好他舉手了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2146.wav",
        "text": "接下來是你發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2147.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2148.wav",
        "text": "絕無此事我不是說了接下來你發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2149.wav",
        "text": "我已經宣布了柯總召請準備啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2150.wav",
        "text": "好黃珊珊委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2151.wav",
        "text": "你現在不要再拗這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2152.wav",
        "text": "出席這個協商主要是因為這個案子也很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2153.wav",
        "text": "其實最後主決議的文字都已經差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2154.wav",
        "text": "只剩下一個建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2155.wav",
        "text": "建請衛福部應進行健保改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2156.wav",
        "text": "上次我們協商完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2157.wav",
        "text": "的有關新住民相關的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2158.wav",
        "text": "我今天非常的遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2159.wav",
        "text": "還要再來這邊說這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2160.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望黨團在協商完成前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2161.wav",
        "text": "沒有共同的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2162.wav",
        "text": "或意見不同立場不同這都很正常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2163.wav",
        "text": "但我們希望在院長協商後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2164.wav",
        "text": "大家在協商上面簽了字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2165.wav",
        "text": "就表示意見已經趨於一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2166.wav",
        "text": "就應該互相尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2167.wav",
        "text": "這也是政治誠信的一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2168.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2169.wav",
        "text": "再有互相攻擊的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2170.wav",
        "text": "今天的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2171.wav",
        "text": "我們也都非常尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2172.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2173.wav",
        "text": "所以台灣民眾黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2174.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員也下了三個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2175.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也跟部裡面溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2176.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得這件事情是一件好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2177.wav",
        "text": "現在大概只剩下最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2178.wav",
        "text": "兩個文字上面的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2179.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得如果可以達到共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2180.wav",
        "text": "那是更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2181.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2182.wav",
        "text": "也請大家不要再互相攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2183.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2184.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2185.wav",
        "text": "我們今天談全民健保法這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2186.wav",
        "text": "已經談了兩天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2187.wav",
        "text": "也講得滿極致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2188.wav",
        "text": "最後大家有誠意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2189.wav",
        "text": "用附帶決議來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2190.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2191.wav",
        "text": "本來是附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2192.wav",
        "text": "我沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2193.wav",
        "text": "第二個那個文字是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2194.wav",
        "text": "衛福部寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2195.wav",
        "text": "它寫建請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2196.wav",
        "text": "結果國民黨就簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2197.wav",
        "text": "後來我拿給黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2198.wav",
        "text": "他說不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2199.wav",
        "text": "這樣回頭拿過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2200.wav",
        "text": "要把建請劃掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2201.wav",
        "text": "但簽了就算數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2202.wav",
        "text": "建請你們五六個都簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2203.wav",
        "text": "了拿給黃珊珊簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2204.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊說不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2205.wav",
        "text": "應該是往前比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2206.wav",
        "text": "你們是更進一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2207.wav",
        "text": "結果你們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2208.wav",
        "text": "變成用建請要撤簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2209.wav",
        "text": "這樣哪說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2210.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我一直堅持說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2211.wav",
        "text": "請大家認真想看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2212.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2213.wav",
        "text": "都是騙人騙己的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2214.wav",
        "text": "做不到的事情不要答應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2215.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2216.wav",
        "text": "6月底半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2217.wav",
        "text": "因為今年已經沒有預算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2218.wav",
        "text": "所以明年預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2219.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2220.wav",
        "text": "明年預算也要到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2221.wav",
        "text": "年底結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2222.wav",
        "text": "真的數字才會出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2223.wav",
        "text": "這絕對不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2224.wav",
        "text": "而且也還沒決算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2225.wav",
        "text": "所以大家想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2226.wav",
        "text": "我們今天要做的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2227.wav",
        "text": "不是拿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2228.wav",
        "text": "應該要很務實來解決問題才對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2229.wav",
        "text": "還沒有決算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2230.wav",
        "text": "而且半年內要抽出七百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2231.wav",
        "text": "神仙都沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2232.wav",
        "text": "要到年底決算以後才知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2233.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2234.wav",
        "text": "半年弄出七百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2235.wav",
        "text": "不可能所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2236.wav",
        "text": "不要騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2237.wav",
        "text": "醫界好像表決你們贏了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2238.wav",
        "text": "修法贏了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2239.wav",
        "text": "那都是騙人騙己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2240.wav",
        "text": "大家都想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2241.wav",
        "text": "想解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2242.wav",
        "text": "我很清楚這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2243.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2244.wav",
        "text": "來談事情會比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2245.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2246.wav",
        "text": "陳玉珍委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2247.wav",
        "text": "羅廷瑋委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2248.wav",
        "text": "拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2249.wav",
        "text": "控制一下時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2250.wav",
        "text": "我們還有好多法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2251.wav",
        "text": "既然大家真的沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2252.wav",
        "text": "主決議也沒辦法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2253.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們就節省時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2254.wav",
        "text": "就進入表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2255.wav",
        "text": "但我還是要反駁柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2256.wav",
        "text": "說騙人騙己這件事否"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2257.wav",
        "text": "財政部超徵兩300億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2258.wav",
        "text": "不就一直在欺騙國人嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2259.wav",
        "text": "財政部每年都在騙人騙己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2260.wav",
        "text": "嗎如果民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2261.wav",
        "text": "相關部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2262.wav",
        "text": "覺得這個法案通過後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2263.wav",
        "text": "覆議如果通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2264.wav",
        "text": "話歡迎聲請釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2265.wav",
        "text": "反正現在政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2266.wav",
        "text": "對任何法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2267.wav",
        "text": "不管是政治議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2268.wav",
        "text": "或經濟法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2269.wav",
        "text": "民生法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2270.wav",
        "text": "都可以釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2271.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2272.wav",
        "text": "救濟的途徑可以走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2273.wav",
        "text": "什麼討論沒有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2274.wav",
        "text": "什麼表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2275.wav",
        "text": "是騙人騙己騙你做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2276.wav",
        "text": "這些不能做的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2277.wav",
        "text": "討論是有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2278.wav",
        "text": "不是沒有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2279.wav",
        "text": "過去這幾年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2280.wav",
        "text": "我們不就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2281.wav",
        "text": "走歪了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2282.wav",
        "text": "欺騙國人好幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2283.wav",
        "text": "我覺得大家要節省時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2284.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2285.wav",
        "text": "請羅廷瑋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2286.wav",
        "text": "請掌握時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2287.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2288.wav",
        "text": "因為只差兩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2289.wav",
        "text": "已經代擬出這樣子了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2290.wav",
        "text": "也並沒有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2291.wav",
        "text": "半年內要擠出700"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2292.wav",
        "text": "億因為最後是寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2293.wav",
        "text": "114年6月30"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2294.wav",
        "text": "日所以會有整整一年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2295.wav",
        "text": "因為今年預算編完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2296.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2297.wav",
        "text": "那就是我們還是要回歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2298.wav",
        "text": "就只差兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2299.wav",
        "text": "也就是是不是要寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2300.wav",
        "text": "建請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2301.wav",
        "text": "還是拜託一下柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2302.wav",
        "text": "您這麼有智慧的長者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2303.wav",
        "text": "我知道您想的很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2304.wav",
        "text": "我知道您想的很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2305.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2306.wav",
        "text": "但是為了醫療界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2307.wav",
        "text": "我們趕緊定案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2308.wav",
        "text": "避免讓醫療界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2309.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再次提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2310.wav",
        "text": "您有講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2311.wav",
        "text": "立法院所為之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2312.wav",
        "text": "決議僅屬建議性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2313.wav",
        "text": "其實這裡面已經寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2314.wav",
        "text": "不一定要在今天的主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2315.wav",
        "text": "裡還要再提到建請兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2316.wav",
        "text": "大和解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2317.wav",
        "text": "簽下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2318.wav",
        "text": "讓所有醫療單位都安心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2319.wav",
        "text": "拜託柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2320.wav",
        "text": "立法院所做主決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2321.wav",
        "text": "有非法決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2322.wav",
        "text": "有建請性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2323.wav",
        "text": "你現在講的是非法決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2324.wav",
        "text": "非法決議也是建請性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2325.wav",
        "text": "的超過憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2326.wav",
        "text": "所以做一個非法決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2327.wav",
        "text": "也沒有用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2328.wav",
        "text": "附加條件及期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2329.wav",
        "text": "但為法律所不許者無效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2330.wav",
        "text": "我也可以用這個來擋你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2331.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天就是要很誠懇地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2332.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2333.wav",
        "text": "我們表達了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2334.wav",
        "text": "大家來騙人騙己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2335.wav",
        "text": "那我們就表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2336.wav",
        "text": "那就下一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2337.wav",
        "text": "長輩柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2338.wav",
        "text": "羅廷瑋委員講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2339.wav",
        "text": "我一直講說不要騙人騙己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2340.wav",
        "text": "他說大家來互相騙一騙就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2341.wav",
        "text": "及列席所有衛福部相關官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2342.wav",
        "text": "證券交易法第十四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2343.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2344.wav",
        "text": "\n謝謝邱部長謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2345.wav",
        "text": "再次謝謝邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2346.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2347.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部各位列席委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2348.wav",
        "text": "首先我們邀請金管會彭主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2349.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2350.wav",
        "text": "證券期貨局張局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2351.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2352.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2353.wav",
        "text": "賦稅署林副署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2354.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2355.wav",
        "text": "勞動部李專門委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2356.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2357.wav",
        "text": "法務部林參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2358.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2359.wav",
        "text": "向各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2360.wav",
        "text": "我們併案協商國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2361.wav",
        "text": "擬具證券交易法第十四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2362.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案計2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2363.wav",
        "text": "本案為逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2364.wav",
        "text": "故無審查報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2365.wav",
        "text": "我本人曾在7月5號下午召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2366.wav",
        "text": "財政部均持反對意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2367.wav",
        "text": "沒有協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2368.wav",
        "text": "今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2369.wav",
        "text": "我們先請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2370.wav",
        "text": "相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2371.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團再提出報告好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2372.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2373.wav",
        "text": "請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2374.wav",
        "text": "為了讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2375.wav",
        "text": "整個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2376.wav",
        "text": "能夠全面的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2377.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2378.wav",
        "text": "尤其占臺灣GDP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2379.wav",
        "text": "總數最大的上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2380.wav",
        "text": "能夠起帶頭的作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2381.wav",
        "text": "能夠在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2382.wav",
        "text": "每一年有盈餘的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2383.wav",
        "text": "以類似加薪減稅的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2384.wav",
        "text": "所得提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2385.wav",
        "text": "當然為什麼講上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2386.wav",
        "text": "因為上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2387.wav",
        "text": "就是我們整個產業界的主要龍頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2388.wav",
        "text": "包括中小企業等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2389.wav",
        "text": "都是共同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2390.wav",
        "text": "在我們國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2391.wav",
        "text": "產業界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2392.wav",
        "text": "必須大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2393.wav",
        "text": "一個整體的circle"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2394.wav",
        "text": "是互相的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2395.wav",
        "text": "如果從上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2396.wav",
        "text": "開始因為本身上市上櫃就是90%以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2397.wav",
        "text": "都是比較績優的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2398.wav",
        "text": "每一年的獲利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2399.wav",
        "text": "都可以達到一定的水準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2400.wav",
        "text": "如果上市上櫃公司能夠積極的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2401.wav",
        "text": "來提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2402.wav",
        "text": "不只可以為臺灣留住人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2403.wav",
        "text": "而且未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2404.wav",
        "text": "對公司的整體競爭力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2405.wav",
        "text": "以及類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2406.wav",
        "text": "公司有盈餘的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2407.wav",
        "text": "以這樣的方式來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2408.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2409.wav",
        "text": "提出這樣一個相對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2410.wav",
        "text": "法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2411.wav",
        "text": "能夠用政府立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2412.wav",
        "text": "全力來推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2413.wav",
        "text": "讓員工等於就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2414.wav",
        "text": "受到公司特別的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2415.wav",
        "text": "相信未來對整個公司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2416.wav",
        "text": "績效方面也會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2417.wav",
        "text": "公司的盈餘應該也會再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2418.wav",
        "text": "證交法第十四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2419.wav",
        "text": "修正案是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2420.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2421.wav",
        "text": "加薪二法的第二案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2422.wav",
        "text": "第一案已經順利通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2423.wav",
        "text": "就是中小企業發展條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2424.wav",
        "text": "經濟部後來也提了行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2425.wav",
        "text": "協商之後已經順利的通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2426.wav",
        "text": "很期待今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2427.wav",
        "text": "證交法第十四條也可以有個美好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2428.wav",
        "text": "員工可以加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2429.wav",
        "text": "\n台灣民眾黨的版本非常簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2430.wav",
        "text": "第一個明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2431.wav",
        "text": "上市上櫃公司要把一定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2432.wav",
        "text": "盈餘作為員工的加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2433.wav",
        "text": "第二個加薪的幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2434.wav",
        "text": "由主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2435.wav",
        "text": "就是財政部跟勞動部來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2436.wav",
        "text": "做一個制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2437.wav",
        "text": "這個法在財政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2438.wav",
        "text": "已經經過初步的協商了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2439.wav",
        "text": "那一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2440.wav",
        "text": "及我代表台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2441.wav",
        "text": "財政部的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2442.wav",
        "text": "也都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2443.wav",
        "text": "那天我們的結論是要求金管會跟財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2444.wav",
        "text": "要把你們一直在強調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2445.wav",
        "text": "事實上上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2446.wav",
        "text": "有幫員工加薪的這個比例跟原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2447.wav",
        "text": "把它定出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2448.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得今天有沒有帶過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2449.wav",
        "text": "啦那一天羅明才召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2450.wav",
        "text": "跟我的建議是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2451.wav",
        "text": "那三黨看用什麼方式來通過這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2452.wav",
        "text": "好不好我們一起來努力謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2453.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張啓楷委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2454.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來莊瑞雄幹事長請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2455.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2456.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我想我必須要再次提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2457.wav",
        "text": "啦我上一次的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2458.wav",
        "text": "對於在證交法這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2459.wav",
        "text": "要增訂這樣一個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2460.wav",
        "text": "我一直認為不妥的原因在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2461.wav",
        "text": "呢任何公司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2462.wav",
        "text": "治理在經營的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2463.wav",
        "text": "一定必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2464.wav",
        "text": "哪怕你今年賺錢你也不能就拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2465.wav",
        "text": "分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2466.wav",
        "text": "你一定要先彌補虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2467.wav",
        "text": "這個本來在整個公司法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2468.wav",
        "text": "也講得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2469.wav",
        "text": "去為員工去調薪分派酬勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2470.wav",
        "text": "這很好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2471.wav",
        "text": "這沒有人會反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2472.wav",
        "text": "可是問題是你不能今天賺了錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2473.wav",
        "text": "對於前面的虧損就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2474.wav",
        "text": "你這樣對其他債權人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2475.wav",
        "text": "也不公平啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2476.wav",
        "text": "這個也違反整個公司治理的原則啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2477.wav",
        "text": "所以為什麼公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2478.wav",
        "text": "去幫員工調薪這是對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2479.wav",
        "text": "這也可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2480.wav",
        "text": "不能不彌補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2481.wav",
        "text": "或財政部這邊有沒有試算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2482.wav",
        "text": "我舉個例子好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2483.wav",
        "text": "因為這個法案裡面提到說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2484.wav",
        "text": "提案立意良善啦但是我覺得這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2485.wav",
        "text": "也不能這樣太過於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2486.wav",
        "text": "草率所以我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2487.wav",
        "text": "財政部對於這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2488.wav",
        "text": "地方看看有沒有辦法去試算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2489.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨這個提案是規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2490.wav",
        "text": "超過部分扣抵當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2491.wav",
        "text": "我們就舉台積電好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2492.wav",
        "text": "那台積電不爽死了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2493.wav",
        "text": "它那個稅額幾乎都不用繳了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2494.wav",
        "text": "國庫的稅損會有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2495.wav",
        "text": "我們就用台積電舉例就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2496.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都耳熟能詳的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2497.wav",
        "text": "這樣台積電都來做好人就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2498.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄委員等一下我會請金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2499.wav",
        "text": "跟財政部回答您這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2500.wav",
        "text": "對請他們試算一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2501.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2502.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2503.wav",
        "text": "今天又回來再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2504.wav",
        "text": "協商證券交易法第十四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2505.wav",
        "text": "我想很清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2506.wav",
        "text": "我們上次也都在強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2507.wav",
        "text": "就在法體系的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2508.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的一個規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2509.wav",
        "text": "也不應當放在證券交易法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2510.wav",
        "text": "應當是在公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2511.wav",
        "text": "大家可以去看看公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2512.wav",
        "text": "現行第203十五條之一的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2513.wav",
        "text": "相對是非常周延的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2514.wav",
        "text": "而且它的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2515.wav",
        "text": "而且是現況實務比較可行的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2516.wav",
        "text": "是用分派員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2517.wav",
        "text": "酬勞或獎金的方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2518.wav",
        "text": "所以就體例上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2519.wav",
        "text": "不應當放在證券交易法第十四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2520.wav",
        "text": "是公司法的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2521.wav",
        "text": "而且放錯地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2522.wav",
        "text": "\n當然我們很清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2523.wav",
        "text": "要論述要用立法強制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2524.wav",
        "text": "上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2525.wav",
        "text": "只要有盈餘就一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2526.wav",
        "text": "同樣我們用立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2527.wav",
        "text": "過當的去介入了公司治理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2528.wav",
        "text": "我想這個我們要商榷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2529.wav",
        "text": "這個盈餘的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2530.wav",
        "text": "做工作的人都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2531.wav",
        "text": "這盈餘是一次性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2532.wav",
        "text": "你今年賺錢有盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2533.wav",
        "text": "不代表明年也繼續有盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2534.wav",
        "text": "但是一旦加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2535.wav",
        "text": "了所以這樣的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2536.wav",
        "text": "當然我們希望每間公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2537.wav",
        "text": "每年都有盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2538.wav",
        "text": "但事實上企業經營並不是這樣美好的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2539.wav",
        "text": "怎麼辦呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2540.wav",
        "text": "所以這種一次性的盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2541.wav",
        "text": "大家應當都會請求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2542.wav",
        "text": "要再多商榷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2543.wav",
        "text": "等一下請金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2544.wav",
        "text": "再做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2545.wav",
        "text": "也回應剛剛張啓楷委員所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2546.wav",
        "text": "垂詢的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2547.wav",
        "text": "相對而言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2548.wav",
        "text": "上市上櫃公司員工的酬勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2549.wav",
        "text": "因為我們長期以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2550.wav",
        "text": "對於上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2551.wav",
        "text": "不管是CSR或是各種資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2552.wav",
        "text": "資訊揭露的要求都比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2553.wav",
        "text": "酬勞的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2554.wav",
        "text": "加薪大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2555.wav",
        "text": "有21%都有做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2556.wav",
        "text": "比例高達六成三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2557.wav",
        "text": "三就加薪的幅度來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2558.wav",
        "text": "大於5%的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2559.wav",
        "text": "換言之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2560.wav",
        "text": "要求上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2561.wav",
        "text": "其實已經有相當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2562.wav",
        "text": "成效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2563.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分還是要請委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2564.wav",
        "text": "三思用強制入法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2565.wav",
        "text": "來介入公司的治理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2566.wav",
        "text": "而且適用稅務優惠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2567.wav",
        "text": "這個問題層面就更大了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2568.wav",
        "text": "絕對是很高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2569.wav",
        "text": "\n稅損的影響絕對很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2570.wav",
        "text": "不像我們上一次大家共同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2571.wav",
        "text": "通過的中小企業條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2572.wav",
        "text": "95%的中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2573.wav",
        "text": "你給予它稅務優惠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2574.wav",
        "text": "用這個政策工具去鼓勵他為基層的員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2575.wav",
        "text": "甚至是新聘的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2576.wav",
        "text": "年輕的或是高齡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2577.wav",
        "text": "就是福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2578.wav",
        "text": "收入相對優渥的一群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2579.wav",
        "text": "那個稅損絕對是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2580.wav",
        "text": "很高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2581.wav",
        "text": "絕對是幾十億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2582.wav",
        "text": "是不是合理公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2583.wav",
        "text": "這個我們也要來回應社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2584.wav",
        "text": "所以請在野黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2585.wav",
        "text": "修法強制要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2586.wav",
        "text": "介入公司治理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2587.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這真的要停看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2588.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2589.wav",
        "text": "的發言接下來請柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2590.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2591.wav",
        "text": "也滿完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2592.wav",
        "text": "的我要再講一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2593.wav",
        "text": "第一個立法體例上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2594.wav",
        "text": "這個本來應該放在公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2595.wav",
        "text": "第203條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2596.wav",
        "text": "的章程裡面都可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2597.wav",
        "text": "分派盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2598.wav",
        "text": "乃至於給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2599.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2600.wav",
        "text": "其實金管會對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2601.wav",
        "text": "賺錢分給員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2602.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2603.wav",
        "text": "引導投資公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2604.wav",
        "text": "資金投資的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2605.wav",
        "text": "也有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2606.wav",
        "text": "有推廣產業高薪100指數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2607.wav",
        "text": "也講過這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2608.wav",
        "text": "有關於CSR"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2609.wav",
        "text": "公司的永續經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2610.wav",
        "text": "本來就是屬於公司治理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2611.wav",
        "text": "高度項下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2612.wav",
        "text": "\n今天我們要談的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2613.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛通過中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2614.wav",
        "text": "發展條例第36條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2615.wav",
        "text": "2中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2616.wav",
        "text": "去聘員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2617.wav",
        "text": "然後我們給他抵稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2618.wav",
        "text": "不一樣的邏輯上次我們大家都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2619.wav",
        "text": "已經協商過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2620.wav",
        "text": "有關24歲以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2621.wav",
        "text": "以及高齡的員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2622.wav",
        "text": "我們的抵稅率越高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2623.wav",
        "text": "那現在同樣的在這個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2624.wav",
        "text": "那個7月12號才三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2625.wav",
        "text": "同樣這個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2626.wav",
        "text": "司給人加薪的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2627.wav",
        "text": "用國家的稅金去抵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2628.wav",
        "text": "這個就是很奇怪的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2629.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵擁護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2630.wav",
        "text": "擁護財團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2631.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2632.wav",
        "text": "其實這種稅損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2633.wav",
        "text": "可以粗估將近178億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2634.wav",
        "text": "這是去年的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2635.wav",
        "text": "大家都來搞這一套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2636.wav",
        "text": "這是一個逆向的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2637.wav",
        "text": "我們要想清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2638.wav",
        "text": "就是到底我們做這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2639.wav",
        "text": "是要做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2640.wav",
        "text": "好那現在這些賺錢的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2641.wav",
        "text": "每家公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2642.wav",
        "text": "政府在出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2643.wav",
        "text": "那加薪就是大家互相爭人才嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2644.wav",
        "text": "這整個市場秩序都亂掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2645.wav",
        "text": "了像台積電要搶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2646.wav",
        "text": "凌陽科技也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2647.wav",
        "text": "互相之間搶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2648.wav",
        "text": "我就一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2649.wav",
        "text": "這種市場秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2650.wav",
        "text": "就整個被破壞掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2651.wav",
        "text": "我覺得大家在做這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2652.wav",
        "text": "的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2653.wav",
        "text": "不要用簡單的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2654.wav",
        "text": "如果加薪就可以抵稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2655.wav",
        "text": "這個稅本來是要交給國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2656.wav",
        "text": "換國家來出這些錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2657.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2658.wav",
        "text": "大家要冷靜地想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2659.wav",
        "text": "不是這麼簡單的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2660.wav",
        "text": "我們先請金管會彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2661.wav",
        "text": "請彭主委謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2662.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2663.wav",
        "text": "想法是說其實現有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2664.wav",
        "text": "機制如果根據公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2665.wav",
        "text": "所謂的公司就是有一個義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2666.wav",
        "text": "必須要在章程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2667.wav",
        "text": "盈餘的一定比率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2668.wav",
        "text": "要分派員工酬勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2669.wav",
        "text": "而且有虧損時要撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2670.wav",
        "text": "補我想公司法會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2671.wav",
        "text": "規定是有其考慮點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2672.wav",
        "text": "而不是加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2673.wav",
        "text": "因為加薪是一個永續性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2674.wav",
        "text": "假設一年的盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2675.wav",
        "text": "但是加薪會是永續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2676.wav",
        "text": "它有考慮到這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2677.wav",
        "text": "所以它才會用發給酬勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2678.wav",
        "text": "那酬勞可以是一次性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2679.wav",
        "text": "今年盈餘好今年就發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2680.wav",
        "text": "這部分是比較吻合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2681.wav",
        "text": "整個公司的管理跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2682.wav",
        "text": "整個經營策略上的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2683.wav",
        "text": "\n那再來就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2684.wav",
        "text": "或是我過去有累積虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2685.wav",
        "text": "其實公司法上面已經有做過蠻完整的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2686.wav",
        "text": "就是要先扣除這個部分的虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2687.wav",
        "text": "才去做這樣才是比較實際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2688.wav",
        "text": "我在上次會議也提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2689.wav",
        "text": "通常盈餘是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2690.wav",
        "text": "會計上可能一次性的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2691.wav",
        "text": "它有時候不見得是真實可以分配的盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2692.wav",
        "text": "會計上的數字有時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2693.wav",
        "text": "是作為經營績效的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2694.wav",
        "text": "並不是真的可以拿來作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2695.wav",
        "text": "現金的分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2696.wav",
        "text": "因為它是比較複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2697.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在過去是尊重公司在經營上面的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2698.wav",
        "text": "對於加薪這個立意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2699.wav",
        "text": "我們都是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2700.wav",
        "text": "只是因為這跟公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2701.wav",
        "text": "重複度蠻高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2702.wav",
        "text": "的假如意思是一樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2703.wav",
        "text": "在過去可能會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2704.wav",
        "text": "比如說中小企業加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2705.wav",
        "text": "那上市櫃公司是不是也加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2706.wav",
        "text": "畢竟上市櫃公司是臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2707.wav",
        "text": "上櫃公司總共加起來有1008九百零家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2708.wav",
        "text": "我們也看到過去金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2709.wav",
        "text": "我們對這個臺灣的櫥窗產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2710.wav",
        "text": "也採取很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2711.wav",
        "text": "看似強制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2712.wav",
        "text": "或是半強制的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2713.wav",
        "text": "要求揭露充分的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2714.wav",
        "text": "比如他們的平均薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2715.wav",
        "text": "這些廠商們在過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2716.wav",
        "text": "也都是非常系統性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2717.wav",
        "text": "自願性的加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2718.wav",
        "text": "我這邊有幾個數字跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2719.wav",
        "text": "比如說我們的上市公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2720.wav",
        "text": "非主管平均的薪資大概是10"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2721.wav",
        "text": "00萬左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2722.wav",
        "text": "然後到5年後平均是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2723.wav",
        "text": "3萬整個增幅大概有21.38%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2724.wav",
        "text": "櫃公司的條件稍差一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2725.wav",
        "text": "萬現在大概有87"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2726.wav",
        "text": "萬左右這個增幅大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2727.wav",
        "text": "所以過去我們上市櫃公司其實都有常態性的加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2728.wav",
        "text": "畢竟他的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2729.wav",
        "text": "跟中小企業是稍微有不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2730.wav",
        "text": "那在員工酬勞的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2731.wav",
        "text": "他的增加就是一次性的增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2732.wav",
        "text": "所以可能就更為明顯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2733.wav",
        "text": "剛剛吳委員有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2734.wav",
        "text": "一次性的酬勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2735.wav",
        "text": "所以其實過去在上市櫃公司裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2736.wav",
        "text": "第一個它相對的比如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2737.wav",
        "text": "工作條件比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2738.wav",
        "text": "所以我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2739.wav",
        "text": "假設有這個考慮的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2740.wav",
        "text": "上市櫃公司在過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2741.wav",
        "text": "就已經有這個機制在了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2742.wav",
        "text": "所以我們覺得原來如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2743.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個情況能不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2744.wav",
        "text": "維持我們現行的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2745.wav",
        "text": "以上是我們金管會的立場謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2746.wav",
        "text": "謝謝彭主委的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2747.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2748.wav",
        "text": "財政部政務次長李次長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2749.wav",
        "text": "主席還有各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2750.wav",
        "text": "財政部這邊說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2751.wav",
        "text": "基本上從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2752.wav",
        "text": "我們也知道就是上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2753.wav",
        "text": "他們其實都是依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2754.wav",
        "text": "還有員工的表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2755.wav",
        "text": "他們會適時來為員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2756.wav",
        "text": "然後希望能夠留攬優秀的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2757.wav",
        "text": "還有提升企業的競爭力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2758.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊也有一個數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2759.wav",
        "text": "就是以112年度為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2760.wav",
        "text": "大概有半數的上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2761.wav",
        "text": "他們平均的員工薪資費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2762.wav",
        "text": "都高於上年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2763.wav",
        "text": "也就是有一半以上的上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2764.wav",
        "text": "都有替員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2765.wav",
        "text": "而且大概有30%的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2766.wav",
        "text": "上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2767.wav",
        "text": "他們的薪資變動幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2768.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有任何的租稅優惠措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2769.wav",
        "text": "其實上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2770.wav",
        "text": "自己本於公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2771.wav",
        "text": "治理的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2772.wav",
        "text": "還有企業社會責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2773.wav",
        "text": "他們就會來替員工做適時的加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2774.wav",
        "text": "\n剛才莊瑞雄委員有問到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2775.wav",
        "text": "像台積電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2776.wav",
        "text": "這些它的影響大概是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2777.wav",
        "text": "我們有試著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2778.wav",
        "text": "金管會證期局的新聞稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2779.wav",
        "text": "治理企業的ESG的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2780.wav",
        "text": "資訊揭露來做查詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2781.wav",
        "text": "以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2782.wav",
        "text": "這3個年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2783.wav",
        "text": "我們去跑了前二十大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2784.wav",
        "text": "高的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2785.wav",
        "text": "提到的這家公司它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2786.wav",
        "text": "它其實就替員工加薪了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2787.wav",
        "text": "加薪的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2788.wav",
        "text": "比上年度成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2789.wav",
        "text": "如果我們現在用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2790.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2791.wav",
        "text": "來設算的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2792.wav",
        "text": "它一年的稅收損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2793.wav",
        "text": "給它的稅收獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2794.wav",
        "text": "大概就有38億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2795.wav",
        "text": "它一家公司大概就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2796.wav",
        "text": "獨享這麼大的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2797.wav",
        "text": "另外如果以同一年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2798.wav",
        "text": "我們統計前二十大公司的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2799.wav",
        "text": "整個稅損大概是61億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2800.wav",
        "text": "就20家公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2801.wav",
        "text": "他們有替員工加薪的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2802.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團的提案來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2803.wav",
        "text": "大概就會有61億的稅損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2804.wav",
        "text": "如果以110年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2805.wav",
        "text": "來算的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2806.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們也算過二十大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2807.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣我們也是去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2808.wav",
        "text": "公開資訊觀測站上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2809.wav",
        "text": "看他們的ESG的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2810.wav",
        "text": "然後去設算的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2811.wav",
        "text": "101億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2812.wav",
        "text": "所以其實這個稅收損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2813.wav",
        "text": "看起來是相當大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2814.wav",
        "text": "而且感覺上是少數的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2815.wav",
        "text": "在享受這個租稅的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2816.wav",
        "text": "30%的公司他們加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2817.wav",
        "text": "都不需要考慮任何的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2818.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有給它優惠的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2819.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛我報告的這幾個數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2820.wav",
        "text": "也是沒有租稅優惠的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2821.wav",
        "text": "他們就主動為員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2822.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上似乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2823.wav",
        "text": "企業的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2824.wav",
        "text": "重點還是在自己公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2825.wav",
        "text": "公司治理的情況還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2826.wav",
        "text": "企業社會責任的履行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2827.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2828.wav",
        "text": "我們必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2829.wav",
        "text": "聚焦一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2830.wav",
        "text": "大家都表達各種不同的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2831.wav",
        "text": "都很寶貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2832.wav",
        "text": "但是我請大家回憶一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2833.wav",
        "text": "也先認識一下這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2834.wav",
        "text": "這個條文最主要就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2835.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2836.wav",
        "text": "公司的盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2837.wav",
        "text": "來給員工做加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2838.wav",
        "text": "這個部分可以減稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2839.wav",
        "text": "這是什麼意思呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2840.wav",
        "text": "加薪1萬塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2841.wav",
        "text": "它的盈餘本來要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2842.wav",
        "text": "加薪1萬塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2843.wav",
        "text": "它本來要繳25%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2844.wav",
        "text": "2,500塊錢的稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2845.wav",
        "text": "它是去抵扣2,500塊的稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2846.wav",
        "text": "但是7,500塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2847.wav",
        "text": "還是要公司本身來出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2848.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2849.wav",
        "text": "只有四分之一是抵稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2850.wav",
        "text": "四分之三是由公司拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2851.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2852.wav",
        "text": "我要讓大家記得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2853.wav",
        "text": "提案的本質內容是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2854.wav",
        "text": "第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2855.wav",
        "text": "為什麼臺灣有台積電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2856.wav",
        "text": "──臺灣護國神山的奇蹟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2857.wav",
        "text": "當時就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2858.wav",
        "text": "在公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2859.wav",
        "text": "早期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2860.wav",
        "text": "但是我們為了國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2861.wav",
        "text": "科技人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2862.wav",
        "text": "所以當時的台積電並不是一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2863.wav",
        "text": "就給10萬塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2864.wav",
        "text": "分成10張股票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2865.wav",
        "text": "結果在這種情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2866.wav",
        "text": "即便股價不是10塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2867.wav",
        "text": "而是100塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2868.wav",
        "text": "但是10倍的利益給它的員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2869.wav",
        "text": "所以大家都願意留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2870.wav",
        "text": "當時臺灣就是因為這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2871.wav",
        "text": "而留住了這麼多的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2872.wav",
        "text": "才有今天的臺灣奇蹟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2873.wav",
        "text": "當時大家講這租稅公不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2874.wav",
        "text": "很多人認為不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2875.wav",
        "text": "但事實上證明這為臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2876.wav",
        "text": "留住了大批的科技人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2877.wav",
        "text": "\n我想今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2878.wav",
        "text": "加薪減稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2879.wav",
        "text": "當然都可以來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2880.wav",
        "text": "我要在這裡特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2881.wav",
        "text": "各種意見我們都感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2882.wav",
        "text": "因為國民黨跟民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2883.wav",
        "text": "對於加薪減稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2884.wav",
        "text": "或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2885.wav",
        "text": "增聘員工減稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2886.wav",
        "text": "我們兩個黨都有共同的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2887.wav",
        "text": "現在我們再提修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2888.wav",
        "text": "為擴大鼓勵上市上櫃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2889.wav",
        "text": "公司為員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2890.wav",
        "text": "上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2891.wav",
        "text": "年度盈餘應提撥一定比率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2892.wav",
        "text": "作為員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2893.wav",
        "text": "公司提撥稅後盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2894.wav",
        "text": "為員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2895.wav",
        "text": "超過一定比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2896.wav",
        "text": "當年營利所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2897.wav",
        "text": "額等於百分之七十五（四分之三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2898.wav",
        "text": "）還是要公司來出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2899.wav",
        "text": "政府稅損的部分只有四分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2900.wav",
        "text": "所以員工加薪的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2901.wav",
        "text": "是可以提高整體的士氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2902.wav",
        "text": "\n我想剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2903.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄幹事長講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2904.wav",
        "text": "確實有他的道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2905.wav",
        "text": "我們在這裡也建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2906.wav",
        "text": "有賺錢分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2907.wav",
        "text": "明年是賠錢虧損的情況怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2908.wav",
        "text": "加上去以後怕減不下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2909.wav",
        "text": "那我們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2910.wav",
        "text": "把它當作在年終的時候發放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2911.wav",
        "text": "也是一種加薪減稅的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2912.wav",
        "text": "就沒有所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2913.wav",
        "text": "按月增加薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2914.wav",
        "text": "而且等於是一個年終分紅的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2915.wav",
        "text": "今年有賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2916.wav",
        "text": "提撥一定的盈餘來分紅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2917.wav",
        "text": "當然跟公司法第203條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2918.wav",
        "text": "有類似的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2919.wav",
        "text": "但是我們希望上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2920.wav",
        "text": "剛剛又有提到所謂台積電的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2921.wav",
        "text": "台積電本身就是臺灣最高薪的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2922.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2923.wav",
        "text": "現在我們授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2924.wav",
        "text": "上市上櫃公司為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2925.wav",
        "text": "員工加薪資之相關事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2926.wav",
        "text": "由主管機關會同財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2927.wav",
        "text": "勞動部訂之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2928.wav",
        "text": "我們授權給主管機關來訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2929.wav",
        "text": "訂授權是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2930.wav",
        "text": "一些非常績優的上市上櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2931.wav",
        "text": "非常高的幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2932.wav",
        "text": "等於是最高薪資所得的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2933.wav",
        "text": "那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2934.wav",
        "text": "可能我們可以調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2935.wav",
        "text": "不在我們規定的範圍之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2936.wav",
        "text": "多少萬元以下的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2937.wav",
        "text": "可以列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2938.wav",
        "text": "提撥一定比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2939.wav",
        "text": "再三強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2940.wav",
        "text": "這是授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2941.wav",
        "text": "主管機關以及會同相關部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2942.wav",
        "text": "這個是兩個黨的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2943.wav",
        "text": "我們請民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2944.wav",
        "text": "執政黨也一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2945.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2946.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2947.wav",
        "text": "林國成委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2948.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2949.wav",
        "text": "關於提高受僱者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2950.wav",
        "text": "的薪酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2951.wav",
        "text": "這是各黨不分黨派的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2952.wav",
        "text": "長年以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2953.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的企業在給予員工薪酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2954.wav",
        "text": "部分比例偏低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2955.wav",
        "text": "甚至少於董事的薪酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2956.wav",
        "text": "這已經是一個不爭的事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2957.wav",
        "text": "但是問題還是在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2958.wav",
        "text": "我們對的目標要用正確的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2959.wav",
        "text": "我先舉一個法律的用詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2960.wav",
        "text": "目前我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2961.wav",
        "text": "本國的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2962.wav",
        "text": "寫到加薪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2963.wav",
        "text": "大概我目前查到的就是中小企業員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2964.wav",
        "text": "加薪薪資費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2965.wav",
        "text": "加成減除辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2966.wav",
        "text": "如果寫到薪水的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2967.wav",
        "text": "大概只有在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2968.wav",
        "text": "我國派駐外人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2969.wav",
        "text": "有寫到薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2970.wav",
        "text": "公司法跟證交法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2971.wav",
        "text": "大部分的用詞大概有幾種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2972.wav",
        "text": "公司法第109條第1項是寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2973.wav",
        "text": "董事之報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2974.wav",
        "text": "在有些公司章程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2975.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都知道報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2976.wav",
        "text": "如果我們是用一般的用詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2977.wav",
        "text": "要分配給員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2978.wav",
        "text": "的報酬範圍就相當廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2979.wav",
        "text": "這些在我們的法律用詞上都可以統籌在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2980.wav",
        "text": "報酬這個字眼當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2981.wav",
        "text": "這幾年來修過了三次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2982.wav",
        "text": "101年107年跟109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2983.wav",
        "text": "五項就是呼應了大家的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2984.wav",
        "text": "最近一次的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2985.wav",
        "text": "整個條文的內容是在講財報的編製方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2986.wav",
        "text": "規定上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2987.wav",
        "text": "依照主管機關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2988.wav",
        "text": "揭露公司薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2989.wav",
        "text": "報酬政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2990.wav",
        "text": "全體員工平均薪資及調整情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2991.wav",
        "text": "董事及監察人之酬金等相關資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2992.wav",
        "text": "也是幸虧109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2993.wav",
        "text": "增訂了這第五項之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2994.wav",
        "text": "我們現在去金管會查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2995.wav",
        "text": "我們可以明顯的看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2996.wav",
        "text": "一屆的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2997.wav",
        "text": "曾經去查過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2998.wav",
        "text": "有些上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/2999.wav",
        "text": "的盈餘不見得比別人多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3000.wav",
        "text": "但是它的董事及監察人酬金的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3001.wav",
        "text": "成長幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3002.wav",
        "text": "遠高過全公司非主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3003.wav",
        "text": "員工的平均程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3004.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做肥貓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3005.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做公司治理的敗壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3006.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做公司的董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3007.wav",
        "text": "董事長幫自己加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3008.wav",
        "text": "就是要根據這一條被揭露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3009.wav",
        "text": "但是比較可惜的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3010.wav",
        "text": "這一條只有規定資訊的揭露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3011.wav",
        "text": "並沒有賦予主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3012.wav",
        "text": "在資訊揭露之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3013.wav",
        "text": "的權力所以我是覺得這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3014.wav",
        "text": "增列第六項或者是修正動議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3015.wav",
        "text": "第六項及第七項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3016.wav",
        "text": "用意良好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3017.wav",
        "text": "但是放在第十四條裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3018.wav",
        "text": "可能比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3019.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法達到原來的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3020.wav",
        "text": "如果要達到原來第十四條規範的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3021.wav",
        "text": "應該還是以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3022.wav",
        "text": "資訊揭露的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3023.wav",
        "text": "讓這些上市櫃公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3024.wav",
        "text": "接受投資大眾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3025.wav",
        "text": "就是投資大眾可以看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3026.wav",
        "text": "公司如果沒有賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3027.wav",
        "text": "卻還幫董事董監事增加酬金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3028.wav",
        "text": "這樣的公司我們就要小心了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3029.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3030.wav",
        "text": "資訊的揭露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3031.wav",
        "text": "揭露或許可以達到類似的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3032.wav",
        "text": "\n不然的話就回歸到剛剛幾位委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3033.wav",
        "text": "強制公司做盈餘分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3034.wav",
        "text": "應該回歸到公司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3035.wav",
        "text": "公司的法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3036.wav",
        "text": "對於哪些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3037.wav",
        "text": "譬如對股東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3038.wav",
        "text": "是有一個給付順序的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3039.wav",
        "text": "公司對於欠國家的稅金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3040.wav",
        "text": "是要優先給付的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3041.wav",
        "text": "但是考量到第十四條歷年來的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3042.wav",
        "text": "它是以資訊揭露為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3043.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們可以用一個什麼方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3044.wav",
        "text": "揭露受到投資大眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3045.wav",
        "text": "監督的方式來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3046.wav",
        "text": "如果要比較有強制力應該規定在公司法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3047.wav",
        "text": "以上建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3048.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鍾佳濱委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3049.wav",
        "text": "\n跟各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3050.wav",
        "text": "我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3051.wav",
        "text": "不是不是每一個我都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3052.wav",
        "text": "我要跟大家報告八點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3053.wav",
        "text": "要開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3054.wav",
        "text": "院會還在繼續開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3055.wav",
        "text": "現在是休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3056.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下還要去開院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3057.wav",
        "text": "第二我們後面還有好幾個法律條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3058.wav",
        "text": "第三最重要的因為有的是新過來的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3059.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部比較有經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3060.wav",
        "text": "我們都會討論到差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3061.wav",
        "text": "聽完行政部門報告之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3062.wav",
        "text": "一定會休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3063.wav",
        "text": "希望能求同存異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3064.wav",
        "text": "所以鍾佳濱委員我絕對不是故意催促你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3065.wav",
        "text": "剛剛傅崐萁委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3066.wav",
        "text": "我也說謝謝謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3067.wav",
        "text": "就是說拜託重點講出來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3068.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3069.wav",
        "text": "院長等一下8點開什麼院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3070.wav",
        "text": "副院長在那裡嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3071.wav",
        "text": "他不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3072.wav",
        "text": "院會現在已經沒有案子了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3073.wav",
        "text": "已經唸完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3074.wav",
        "text": "了沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3075.wav",
        "text": "可以了吧柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3076.wav",
        "text": "你是要先唸而已嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3077.wav",
        "text": "因為我們後面還有好多條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3078.wav",
        "text": "現在必須協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3079.wav",
        "text": "柯總召發言完我們就暫停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3080.wav",
        "text": "我們協商5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3081.wav",
        "text": "看可不可以大家能達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3082.wav",
        "text": "好不不是已經唸完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3083.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3084.wav",
        "text": "剛剛大家都一直在提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3085.wav",
        "text": "公司法第203條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3086.wav",
        "text": "等等加薪的有關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3087.wav",
        "text": "我要跟各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3088.wav",
        "text": "跟我們主管機關報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3089.wav",
        "text": "在這個部分效果是不彰的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3090.wav",
        "text": "你們手頭的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3091.wav",
        "text": "員工沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3092.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點我要替勞工講一下話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3093.wav",
        "text": "公司賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3094.wav",
        "text": "幫員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3095.wav",
        "text": "是天經地義之事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3096.wav",
        "text": "勞工說實在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3097.wav",
        "text": "夠可憐但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3098.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要提在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3099.wav",
        "text": "證券交易法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3100.wav",
        "text": "這個法條很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3101.wav",
        "text": "因為這裡是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3102.wav",
        "text": "一個完整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3103.wav",
        "text": "第二還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3104.wav",
        "text": "會計制度是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3105.wav",
        "text": "上市上櫃要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3106.wav",
        "text": "經過會計制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3107.wav",
        "text": "嚴審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3108.wav",
        "text": "而產生的結餘所以這點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3109.wav",
        "text": "東西就請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3110.wav",
        "text": "主管機關也不要去擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3111.wav",
        "text": "\n另外財政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3112.wav",
        "text": "也說到稅損的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3113.wav",
        "text": "這一點我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3114.wav",
        "text": "不太苟同但是你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3115.wav",
        "text": "算出來是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3116.wav",
        "text": "那我再看國民黨跟我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3117.wav",
        "text": "也把這個稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3118.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這裡最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3119.wav",
        "text": "因為時間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3120.wav",
        "text": "我要特別說自動自發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3121.wav",
        "text": "地加薪是完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3122.wav",
        "text": "不可能的可是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3123.wav",
        "text": "你如果於法有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3124.wav",
        "text": "據放在法令當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3125.wav",
        "text": "那加薪的機率是會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3126.wav",
        "text": "比較高的所以這點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3127.wav",
        "text": "特別說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3128.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林國成委員發言\n接下來請柯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3129.wav",
        "text": "建銘總召發言結束之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3130.wav",
        "text": "休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3131.wav",
        "text": "針對林國成委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3132.wav",
        "text": "公司賺錢分給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3133.wav",
        "text": "員工加薪天經地義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3134.wav",
        "text": "這個我認同但是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3135.wav",
        "text": "所謂說公司會自動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3136.wav",
        "text": "自發要很多公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3137.wav",
        "text": "自動自發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3138.wav",
        "text": "它要怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3139.wav",
        "text": "跟人家競爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3140.wav",
        "text": "你要面臨這個事實現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3141.wav",
        "text": "比例非常高他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3142.wav",
        "text": "這幾年來統計他們自動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3143.wav",
        "text": "會加薪嘛\n我要再講一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3144.wav",
        "text": "邏輯就是剛剛傅崐萁委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3145.wav",
        "text": "管是說這個政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3146.wav",
        "text": "只出25%或多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3147.wav",
        "text": "公司也要出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3148.wav",
        "text": "不管多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3149.wav",
        "text": "百分比多少錢都要從政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3150.wav",
        "text": "錢去補貼給公司去加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3151.wav",
        "text": "這是不對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3152.wav",
        "text": "不管是政府要補助多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3153.wav",
        "text": "但是這是企業自己要出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3154.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天要講這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3155.wav",
        "text": "中小企業發展條例上面就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3156.wav",
        "text": "你去聘員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3157.wav",
        "text": "然後我們給你抵稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3158.wav",
        "text": "你這個沒有增加員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3159.wav",
        "text": "也沒有增加就業率只"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3160.wav",
        "text": "每一家公司都要面對產業競爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3161.wav",
        "text": "包括傅崐萁委員所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3162.wav",
        "text": "\n臺灣科學園區半導體產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3163.wav",
        "text": "之所以會成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3164.wav",
        "text": "其實我很清楚我在科學園區服務10年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3165.wav",
        "text": "園區所有產業會成功是當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3166.wav",
        "text": "政府蓋出來有5年免稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3167.wav",
        "text": "之後就一直免稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3168.wav",
        "text": "然後還有促進產業升級條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3169.wav",
        "text": "所以是這樣起來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3170.wav",
        "text": "所以它不必負"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3171.wav",
        "text": "擔很多的資本支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3172.wav",
        "text": "我們研發的能力很強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3173.wav",
        "text": "政府一直給它鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3174.wav",
        "text": "就是分紅配股的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3175.wav",
        "text": "就好像stockoption"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3176.wav",
        "text": "有人用stockoption"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3177.wav",
        "text": "也有人用分紅配股"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3178.wav",
        "text": "當年分紅配股10塊錢現在已經沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3179.wav",
        "text": "所以傅崐萁委員在講的10塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3180.wav",
        "text": "那個已經沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3181.wav",
        "text": "所以過去這一套的這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3182.wav",
        "text": "這種優惠已經打破了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3183.wav",
        "text": "這是我個人的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3184.wav",
        "text": "只是要回到一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3185.wav",
        "text": "公司幫員工加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3186.wav",
        "text": "這個邏輯對不對而已啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3187.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3188.wav",
        "text": "我們現在休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3189.wav",
        "text": "請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3190.wav",
        "text": "討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3191.wav",
        "text": "看看可不可以達成一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3192.wav",
        "text": "\n休息完之後請洪申翰委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3193.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3194.wav",
        "text": "\n協商結論第十四條照協商條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3195.wav",
        "text": "到時候再發給大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3196.wav",
        "text": "\n報告黨團幹部跟列席的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3197.wav",
        "text": "因為本案已經有了共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3198.wav",
        "text": "下面有登記洪申翰委員跟沈伯洋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3199.wav",
        "text": "要發言還要發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3200.wav",
        "text": "不必不必好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3201.wav",
        "text": "本案已經有共識我來宣讀一下協商現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3202.wav",
        "text": "所有的黨團幹部請仔細聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3203.wav",
        "text": "明天早上9點繼續在302會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3204.wav",
        "text": "明天早上9點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3205.wav",
        "text": "我們繼續在這裡進行朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3206.wav",
        "text": "我再一次感謝金管會彭主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3207.wav",
        "text": "財政部李次長及各位列席的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3208.wav",
        "text": "辛苦大家一天了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16103/3209.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝所有黨團幹部各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位列席的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝各位列席的閣員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3.wav",
        "text": "新聞界的好朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4.wav",
        "text": "首先向各位黨團幹部各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5.wav",
        "text": "介紹今天列席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6.wav",
        "text": "內閣閣員及官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/7.wav",
        "text": "第一位是內政部劉部長歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/8.wav",
        "text": "陸委會梁副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/9.wav",
        "text": "歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/10.wav",
        "text": "行政院人事行政總處李副人事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/11.wav",
        "text": "歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/12.wav",
        "text": "行政院主計總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/13.wav",
        "text": "陳副主計長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/14.wav",
        "text": "勞動部許次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/15.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/16.wav",
        "text": "考選部劉次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/17.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/18.wav",
        "text": "\n謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/19.wav",
        "text": "及各位列席的委員要特別報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/20.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/21.wav",
        "text": "進行的黨團協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/22.wav",
        "text": "是內政委員會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/23.wav",
        "text": "併案審查羅美玲等22位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/24.wav",
        "text": "及王美惠等19位委員分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/25.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/26.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/27.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/28.wav",
        "text": "張智倫等18位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/29.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧等26位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/30.wav",
        "text": "及邱鎮軍等27位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/31.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/32.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/33.wav",
        "text": "與經院會逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/34.wav",
        "text": "與相關提案併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/35.wav",
        "text": "之行政院函請審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/36.wav",
        "text": "范雲等17位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/37.wav",
        "text": "吳沛憶等16位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/38.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/39.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/40.wav",
        "text": "另外今天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/41.wav",
        "text": "我們院會吳思瑤等17位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/42.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/43.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/44.wav",
        "text": "併入本次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/45.wav",
        "text": "我們一併列入討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/46.wav",
        "text": "\n有關本法案之黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/47.wav",
        "text": "向各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/48.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會召集委員高金素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/49.wav",
        "text": "梅委員於7月2日及9日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/50.wav",
        "text": "已經先行召集兩次協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/51.wav",
        "text": "協商的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/52.wav",
        "text": "除保留法案名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/53.wav",
        "text": "第2條至第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/54.wav",
        "text": "條文外其餘條文均已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/55.wav",
        "text": "有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/56.wav",
        "text": "因為本法有新制定的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/57.wav",
        "text": "本案法案名稱的定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/58.wav",
        "text": "牽扯到後續保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/59.wav",
        "text": "條文的法條內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/60.wav",
        "text": "這句話非常重要我再唸一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/61.wav",
        "text": "本法案的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/62.wav",
        "text": "定下來之後會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/63.wav",
        "text": "牽動到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/64.wav",
        "text": "後續保留條文的法案內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/65.wav",
        "text": "這一點要請各位黨團幹部特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/66.wav",
        "text": "注意另外高金委員召集了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/67.wav",
        "text": "兩次黨團協商為顧及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/68.wav",
        "text": "立法體系的完整性集中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/69.wav",
        "text": "討論的焦點均確立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/70.wav",
        "text": "以行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/71.wav",
        "text": "提案條文為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/72.wav",
        "text": "本法案協商之討論基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/73.wav",
        "text": "最後全案採用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/74.wav",
        "text": "協商條文之立法體例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/75.wav",
        "text": "並提報院會進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/76.wav",
        "text": "二三讀程序為節省"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/77.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團代表的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/78.wav",
        "text": "寶貴時間主席在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/79.wav",
        "text": "具體建議我們採用上述的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/80.wav",
        "text": "協商模式討論上述保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/81.wav",
        "text": "的名稱及條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/82.wav",
        "text": "如果大家後續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/83.wav",
        "text": "對已經有的共識有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/84.wav",
        "text": "我們回過頭來再繼續討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/85.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員代表有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/86.wav",
        "text": "好我們就照上述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/87.wav",
        "text": "宣告通過我們先請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/88.wav",
        "text": "高金召委說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/89.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/90.wav",
        "text": "辛苦了院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/91.wav",
        "text": "也非常謝謝今天的黨團三長都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/92.wav",
        "text": "還有很辛苦地在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/93.wav",
        "text": "裡面討論的委員們都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/94.wav",
        "text": "包括我們的部長我就大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/95.wav",
        "text": "再跟大家提案說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/96.wav",
        "text": "一下剛剛雖然院長已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/97.wav",
        "text": "做了一些說明我再補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/98.wav",
        "text": "說明新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/99.wav",
        "text": "的立法其實有兩個一個叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/100.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益法這兩個名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/101.wav",
        "text": "的問題\n然後我來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/102.wav",
        "text": "一下其實從第9屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/103.wav",
        "text": "林麗蟬委員的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/104.wav",
        "text": "106年10月他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/105.wav",
        "text": "就已經先提出了新住民基本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/106.wav",
        "text": "法草案然後在第10屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/107.wav",
        "text": "任期的時候羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/108.wav",
        "text": "也提出了當時他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/109.wav",
        "text": "對於這個法案一直沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/110.wav",
        "text": "辦法做實質性的討論原因是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/111.wav",
        "text": "行政院沒有版本出來但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/112.wav",
        "text": "他們分別也都有開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/113.wav",
        "text": "擔任召委之後我們內政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/114.wav",
        "text": "29號跟6月12號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/115.wav",
        "text": "法案在這個過程裡面民眾黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/116.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員跟國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/117.wav",
        "text": "的張智倫委員也在6月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/118.wav",
        "text": "11號的時候召開新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/119.wav",
        "text": "來聆聽各界的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/120.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在6月12號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/121.wav",
        "text": "的審查過程之中非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/122.wav",
        "text": "順利地完成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/123.wav",
        "text": "我也特別等待了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/124.wav",
        "text": "行政院的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/125.wav",
        "text": "也提出了內政部的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/126.wav",
        "text": "然後讓行政院通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/127.wav",
        "text": "所以我在7月2號跟7月9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/128.wav",
        "text": "再一次地召開協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/129.wav",
        "text": "基本法的協商完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/130.wav",
        "text": "如剛剛院長所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/131.wav",
        "text": "我們總共有19條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/132.wav",
        "text": "那麼在19條裡面最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/133.wav",
        "text": "或者是新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/134.wav",
        "text": "待會兒大家再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/135.wav",
        "text": "第二個是新住民的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/136.wav",
        "text": "第三個是新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/137.wav",
        "text": "主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/138.wav",
        "text": "第四個是新住民的專責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/139.wav",
        "text": "第五個是行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/140.wav",
        "text": "有關新住民協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/141.wav",
        "text": "會報的設置我想待會兒大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/142.wav",
        "text": "可以就這個部分來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/143.wav",
        "text": "\n那麼我先講基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/144.wav",
        "text": "其實它最重要的是原則性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/145.wav",
        "text": "精神性政策性方向的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/146.wav",
        "text": "繼續訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/147.wav",
        "text": "各種子法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/148.wav",
        "text": "各機關目標跟手段的作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/149.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊提供給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/150.wav",
        "text": "做一個參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/151.wav",
        "text": "譬如環境基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/152.wav",
        "text": "教育基本法海洋基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/153.wav",
        "text": "科學技術基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/154.wav",
        "text": "社會福利基本法文化基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/155.wav",
        "text": "以及原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/156.wav",
        "text": "還有客家基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/157.wav",
        "text": "等其實以上我談的這些部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/158.wav",
        "text": "有立的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/159.wav",
        "text": "其中92年制定公布的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/160.wav",
        "text": "通訊傳播基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/161.wav",
        "text": "裡面也說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/162.wav",
        "text": "要設置通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/163.wav",
        "text": "跟目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/164.wav",
        "text": "不管是民眾黨團國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/165.wav",
        "text": "或者是民進黨有些委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/166.wav",
        "text": "都相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/167.wav",
        "text": "規範要設置專責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/168.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我要講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/169.wav",
        "text": "新住民的範圍了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/170.wav",
        "text": "新住民的範圍當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/171.wav",
        "text": "也是大家待會兒要討論的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/172.wav",
        "text": "落實憲法保障多元文化的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/173.wav",
        "text": "要保障新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/174.wav",
        "text": "基本權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/175.wav",
        "text": "然後更要協助他們融入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/176.wav",
        "text": "我國的社會建立共存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/177.wav",
        "text": "共榮的族群關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/178.wav",
        "text": "所以要特別訂立基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/179.wav",
        "text": "因此立法的目的很明顯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/180.wav",
        "text": "就是要保障新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/181.wav",
        "text": "我國的社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/182.wav",
        "text": "然後要處理社會適應的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/183.wav",
        "text": "我們既然要處理社會適應的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/184.wav",
        "text": "用取得我國身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/185.wav",
        "text": "作為判斷的基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/186.wav",
        "text": "因此限制取得我國身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/187.wav",
        "text": "新住民顯然是非常不合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/188.wav",
        "text": "再來我們以外配來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/189.wav",
        "text": "最快四年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/190.wav",
        "text": "可取得我國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/191.wav",
        "text": "然後再加上他取得身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/192.wav",
        "text": "三年等於他有七年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/193.wav",
        "text": "是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/194.wav",
        "text": "然而如果不拿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/195.wav",
        "text": "我國身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/196.wav",
        "text": "他只拿永久居留證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/197.wav",
        "text": "他就永遠是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/198.wav",
        "text": "所以以這樣的邏輯來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/199.wav",
        "text": "顯然是非常不合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/200.wav",
        "text": "\n再來我要講的是專責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/201.wav",
        "text": "除了行政院版本之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/202.wav",
        "text": "不管是民進黨國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/203.wav",
        "text": "或民眾黨委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/204.wav",
        "text": "其實都有談到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/205.wav",
        "text": "要成立二級的新住民專責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/206.wav",
        "text": "那麼再來按照目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/207.wav",
        "text": "移民署的編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/208.wav",
        "text": "我們看一下現在新住民的人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/209.wav",
        "text": "大概是120萬含二代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/210.wav",
        "text": "了在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/211.wav",
        "text": "移民署的編制裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/212.wav",
        "text": "只有一個移民輔導科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/213.wav",
        "text": "只有6個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/214.wav",
        "text": "在處理新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/215.wav",
        "text": "業務也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/216.wav",
        "text": "平均1個人要服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/217.wav",
        "text": "20萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/218.wav",
        "text": "人力真的是非常地不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/219.wav",
        "text": "我相信這也是各黨團委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/220.wav",
        "text": "版本要求成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/221.wav",
        "text": "新住民專責機關的主要原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/222.wav",
        "text": "目前的編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/223.wav",
        "text": "原本就捉襟見肘的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/224.wav",
        "text": "更難以負荷未來的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/225.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個部分行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/226.wav",
        "text": "應該要來說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/227.wav",
        "text": "以上是召委做的補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/228.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝高金素梅召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/229.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們請內政部劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/230.wav",
        "text": "做一個說明好嗎謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/231.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/232.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團的幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/233.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/234.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝高金召委在過去好幾次的協商當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/235.wav",
        "text": "不管是各個委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/236.wav",
        "text": "或者是各個黨團的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/237.wav",
        "text": "還有包括行政院通過的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/238.wav",
        "text": "說明得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/239.wav",
        "text": "保留的部分先跟大家做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/240.wav",
        "text": "基本的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/241.wav",
        "text": "第一個行政院所提的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/242.wav",
        "text": "是新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/243.wav",
        "text": "跟原來很多委員或是很多黨團所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/244.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法確實有在法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/245.wav",
        "text": "剛剛高金委員已經跟大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/246.wav",
        "text": "報告等一下在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/247.wav",
        "text": "會再提出我們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/248.wav",
        "text": "\n在行政院所提的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/249.wav",
        "text": "保障法裡面如果是按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/250.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/251.wav",
        "text": "主管機關就是內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/252.wav",
        "text": "那內政部會把原來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/253.wav",
        "text": "只有幾個人的移民輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/254.wav",
        "text": "或是相關的業務提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/255.wav",
        "text": "這樣的規格如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/256.wav",
        "text": "放在原來所謂的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/257.wav",
        "text": "基本法的時候按照它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/258.wav",
        "text": "原來的設置規範恐怕就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/259.wav",
        "text": "變成另外一個叫做新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/260.wav",
        "text": "委員會那它必須有子法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/261.wav",
        "text": "才能夠訂定出來是哪一些部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/262.wav",
        "text": "來主導有關新住民的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/263.wav",
        "text": "事項第一個很簡單跟大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/264.wav",
        "text": "回復\n再來有關第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/265.wav",
        "text": "也就是說在所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/266.wav",
        "text": "委員版本裡面大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/267.wav",
        "text": "討論比較多的我也跟大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/268.wav",
        "text": "做一個很簡單的報告第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/269.wav",
        "text": "剛剛高金召委所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/270.wav",
        "text": "的完全正確就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/271.wav",
        "text": "人左右其中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/272.wav",
        "text": "大約有九成是女性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/273.wav",
        "text": "對不起子女不算的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/274.wav",
        "text": "80萬到90萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/275.wav",
        "text": "左右其中大約九成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/276.wav",
        "text": "是女性九成當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/277.wav",
        "text": "婚姻移民在第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/278.wav",
        "text": "第1項第1款裡面我們有規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/279.wav",
        "text": "的範圍婚姻移民大約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/280.wav",
        "text": "是60萬第2款裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/281.wav",
        "text": "外國專業人士包括中階技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/282.wav",
        "text": "人力的話大約是16萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/283.wav",
        "text": "有關港澳或者是大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/284.wav",
        "text": "地區的部分的話大約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/285.wav",
        "text": "是4.3萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/286.wav",
        "text": "這個並不包括我所說的在第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/287.wav",
        "text": "第1款裡面的婚姻移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/288.wav",
        "text": "還有歸化取得國籍者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/289.wav",
        "text": "我們在新住民權益保障法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/290.wav",
        "text": "子女包含在內目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/291.wav",
        "text": "大約是48萬左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/292.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是剛剛跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/293.wav",
        "text": "如果我們用新住民基本法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/294.wav",
        "text": "在適用上面會有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/295.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們不知道未來的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/296.wav",
        "text": "裡面的主要主責單位是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/297.wav",
        "text": "哪一個目的事業主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/298.wav",
        "text": "還沒有訂定得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/299.wav",
        "text": "只有訂定說是一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/300.wav",
        "text": "或者是一個專責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/301.wav",
        "text": "未來在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/302.wav",
        "text": "有關新住民的相關權益事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/303.wav",
        "text": "或是其他的任務編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/304.wav",
        "text": "的時候會出現一些扞格的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/305.wav",
        "text": "以上簡單報告謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/306.wav",
        "text": "謝謝劉部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/307.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/308.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/309.wav",
        "text": "剛才高金素梅所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/310.wav",
        "text": "行政院的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/311.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員大家一起在協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/312.wav",
        "text": "在審查這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/313.wav",
        "text": "等行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/314.wav",
        "text": "院長換了以後新的內閣團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/315.wav",
        "text": "送法案以後我們再來審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/316.wav",
        "text": "決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/317.wav",
        "text": "結果6月10號高金素梅委員當召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/318.wav",
        "text": "硬行要審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/319.wav",
        "text": "我還過去還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/320.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁總召也來黃國昌也來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/321.wav",
        "text": "講了半天就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/322.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌不答應嘛硬要審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/323.wav",
        "text": "那你就配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/324.wav",
        "text": "所作的決議你應該也要遵循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/325.wav",
        "text": "但你不遵循\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/326.wav",
        "text": "你們委員會才作決議說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/327.wav",
        "text": "等新的內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/328.wav",
        "text": "新的部長把新的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/329.wav",
        "text": "送進來才審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/330.wav",
        "text": "我剛才仔細聽你的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/331.wav",
        "text": "我講話不會拗人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/332.wav",
        "text": "這個都是公開紀錄的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/333.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/334.wav",
        "text": "做政治操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/335.wav",
        "text": "根本就是把行政院版本丟包嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/336.wav",
        "text": "你知道行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/337.wav",
        "text": "根本對法案名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/338.wav",
        "text": "名稱有不同意見啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/339.wav",
        "text": "你也知道行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/340.wav",
        "text": "院可能要用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/341.wav",
        "text": "所以你硬搶著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/342.wav",
        "text": "要把它押出去嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/343.wav",
        "text": "那天程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/344.wav",
        "text": "結果你召委既然是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/345.wav",
        "text": "如此的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/346.wav",
        "text": "包括你上次選罷法也是這樣的搞法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/347.wav",
        "text": "那個召委不是以你的意志為意志"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/348.wav",
        "text": "也是把人都關起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/349.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天要講的就是當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/350.wav",
        "text": "是後來才付委進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/351.wav",
        "text": "的現在我們要談的一個事情就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/352.wav",
        "text": "這裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/353.wav",
        "text": "也有很爭議的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/354.wav",
        "text": "院長我都覺得這裡面也有修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/355.wav",
        "text": "也要併案來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/356.wav",
        "text": "因為民眾黨這個修正案一看就知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/357.wav",
        "text": "第1條而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/358.wav",
        "text": "就哪一條全部拿出來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/359.wav",
        "text": "不會浪費時間再講第二輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/360.wav",
        "text": "提一個新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/361.wav",
        "text": "第1條修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/362.wav",
        "text": "和第2條修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/363.wav",
        "text": "很清楚這個我們馬上會碰到還有第9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/364.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以要併在一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/365.wav",
        "text": "這個我覺得要堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/366.wav",
        "text": "\n今天我們要談的第一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/367.wav",
        "text": "到底法案名稱要用什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/368.wav",
        "text": "法案名稱是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/369.wav",
        "text": "基本法還是權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/370.wav",
        "text": "中的關鍵還有主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/371.wav",
        "text": "二級獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/372.wav",
        "text": "這有可能嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/373.wav",
        "text": "這都是關鍵的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/374.wav",
        "text": "新住民有很多種國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/375.wav",
        "text": "在裡面很大宗的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/376.wav",
        "text": "陸配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/377.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我們要講一個很重要的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/378.wav",
        "text": "像美國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/379.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個種族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/380.wav",
        "text": "大熔爐的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/381.wav",
        "text": "它只有對他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/382.wav",
        "text": "自己\n像我們有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/383.wav",
        "text": "原住民是我們本來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/384.wav",
        "text": "所以在憲法上有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/385.wav",
        "text": "對原住民的文化及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/386.wav",
        "text": "語言的保障發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/387.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/388.wav",
        "text": "我們憲法保障是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/389.wav",
        "text": "本國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/390.wav",
        "text": "美國這樣大的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/391.wav",
        "text": "但是全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/392.wav",
        "text": "就只有一種就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/393.wav",
        "text": "像印地安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/394.wav",
        "text": "人美國有印地安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/395.wav",
        "text": "的事務局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/396.wav",
        "text": "它沒有再成立單一的委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/397.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道你這樣子的走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/398.wav",
        "text": "住民再去成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/399.wav",
        "text": "一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/400.wav",
        "text": "這是代表分裂的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/401.wav",
        "text": "那這個委員會主委是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/402.wav",
        "text": "陸配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/403.wav",
        "text": "\n我們要在這裡先弄清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/404.wav",
        "text": "這個基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/405.wav",
        "text": "架構你說基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/406.wav",
        "text": "架構不是這樣寫你說裡面有作用法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/407.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就主張是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/408.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/409.wav",
        "text": "最主要是保障新住民權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/410.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/411.wav",
        "text": "憲法是保障本國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/412.wav",
        "text": "你看兩岸人民關係條例是有差別待遇的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/413.wav",
        "text": "兩岸人民關係條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/414.wav",
        "text": "所以要特別用法律來訂定差別待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/415.wav",
        "text": "把新住民搞個基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/416.wav",
        "text": "然後要成立一個二級的獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/417.wav",
        "text": "這代表什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/418.wav",
        "text": "要一個分裂國家更加嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/419.wav",
        "text": "所以我主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/420.wav",
        "text": "對於民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/421.wav",
        "text": "等一下不要謝謝好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/422.wav",
        "text": "我把這部分講完啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/423.wav",
        "text": "講到什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/424.wav",
        "text": "等一下我很希望聽到你好好講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/425.wav",
        "text": "因為我們尊重你的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/426.wav",
        "text": "\n民眾黨第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/427.wav",
        "text": "第1條寫法完全不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/428.wav",
        "text": "為落實憲法保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/429.wav",
        "text": "多元文化精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/430.wav",
        "text": "保障新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/431.wav",
        "text": "各項基本人權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/432.wav",
        "text": "應不受歧視排擠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/433.wav",
        "text": "剝奪或限制並協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/434.wav",
        "text": "協助融入我國社會是應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/435.wav",
        "text": "憲法保障多元文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/436.wav",
        "text": "憲法規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/437.wav",
        "text": "這個還不可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/438.wav",
        "text": "第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/439.wav",
        "text": "政府對於不同國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/440.wav",
        "text": "或地區之新住民行政措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/441.wav",
        "text": "應一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/442.wav",
        "text": "這什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/443.wav",
        "text": "政府對於不同國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/444.wav",
        "text": "這些人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/445.wav",
        "text": "超過我們現在2,300萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/446.wav",
        "text": "然後或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/447.wav",
        "text": "或地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/448.wav",
        "text": "嘛之新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/449.wav",
        "text": "行政措施應一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/450.wav",
        "text": "這是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/451.wav",
        "text": "六年要改四年嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/452.wav",
        "text": "在這裡偷渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/453.wav",
        "text": "喔因為國民黨邱鎮軍的版本寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/454.wav",
        "text": "用那個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/455.wav",
        "text": "可以把陸配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/456.wav",
        "text": "應一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/457.wav",
        "text": "就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/458.wav",
        "text": "偷渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/459.wav",
        "text": "假新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/460.wav",
        "text": "這很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/461.wav",
        "text": "這個地方我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/462.wav",
        "text": "我們是沒有辦法妥協的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/463.wav",
        "text": "這絕對沒有辦法妥協"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/464.wav",
        "text": "稱是民眾黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/465.wav",
        "text": "嘛那天黃國昌處理時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/466.wav",
        "text": "就有問我要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/467.wav",
        "text": "怎樣要出委員會要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/468.wav",
        "text": "要審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/469.wav",
        "text": "高金素梅委員不尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/470.wav",
        "text": "委員會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/471.wav",
        "text": "硬要配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/472.wav",
        "text": "這有高度政治意涵的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/473.wav",
        "text": "我不是故意在講這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/474.wav",
        "text": "誰跟兩岸人民關係比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/475.wav",
        "text": "大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/476.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌既然要搞這個也搞出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/477.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總報告院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/478.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請高金委員發言請黃珊珊委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/479.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/480.wav",
        "text": "第一個我要講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/481.wav",
        "text": "我不接受柯總召用情緒式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/482.wav",
        "text": "的語言來指控召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/483.wav",
        "text": "我再特別說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/484.wav",
        "text": "也跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/485.wav",
        "text": "所有內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/486.wav",
        "text": "我來把時間續談一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/487.wav",
        "text": "在4月29號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/488.wav",
        "text": "6月12號召開法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/489.wav",
        "text": "的審查當時各委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/490.wav",
        "text": "的版本都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/491.wav",
        "text": "討論也在實質討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/492.wav",
        "text": "也沒有行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/493.wav",
        "text": "所以當下我決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/494.wav",
        "text": "召開討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/495.wav",
        "text": "因此我們也等待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/496.wav",
        "text": "內政部送到行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/497.wav",
        "text": "的版本出來了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/498.wav",
        "text": "我特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/499.wav",
        "text": "在7月2號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/500.wav",
        "text": "跟7月9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/501.wav",
        "text": "\n所以柯總召您誤會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/502.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛的指控我不接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/503.wav",
        "text": "我們是在尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/504.wav",
        "text": "特別等待行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/505.wav",
        "text": "版本進入到內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/506.wav",
        "text": "又再開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/507.wav",
        "text": "兩次的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/508.wav",
        "text": "所以不是您剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/509.wav",
        "text": "我沒有尊重大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/510.wav",
        "text": "希望柯總召知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/511.wav",
        "text": "我知道你很忙我也原諒你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/512.wav",
        "text": "今天有被保留的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/513.wav",
        "text": "我就不要再花時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/514.wav",
        "text": "被保留的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/515.wav",
        "text": "是大家可以討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/516.wav",
        "text": "有19條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/517.wav",
        "text": "當然大家認為不需要討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/518.wav",
        "text": "協商版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/519.wav",
        "text": "也都在大家的桌上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/520.wav",
        "text": "因此只有幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/521.wav",
        "text": "如果名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/522.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/523.wav",
        "text": "在委員會縱使再多的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/524.wav",
        "text": "都沒有辦法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/525.wav",
        "text": "政府政策性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/526.wav",
        "text": "宣示跟決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/527.wav",
        "text": "最後到院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/528.wav",
        "text": "三長來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/529.wav",
        "text": "保留的法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/530.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/531.wav",
        "text": "並不是如剛剛柯總召所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/532.wav",
        "text": "召委沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/533.wav",
        "text": "按照行政程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/534.wav",
        "text": "或者是沒有尊重行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/535.wav",
        "text": "版本我要特別的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/536.wav",
        "text": "希望我們等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/537.wav",
        "text": "討論法案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/538.wav",
        "text": "不要再用情緒性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/539.wav",
        "text": "的語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/540.wav",
        "text": "我們同樣希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/541.wav",
        "text": "立法院能夠保持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/542.wav",
        "text": "高度的文明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/543.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/544.wav",
        "text": "這不是情緒性語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/545.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很嚴肅的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/546.wav",
        "text": "你不能把行政院版本丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/547.wav",
        "text": "沒有行政院版本就開始搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/548.wav",
        "text": "報告沒有丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/549.wav",
        "text": "如果有丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/550.wav",
        "text": "的話今天怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/551.wav",
        "text": "在協商的場合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/552.wav",
        "text": "會有行政院版本呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/553.wav",
        "text": "抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/554.wav",
        "text": "柯總召你不可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/555.wav",
        "text": "我不接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/556.wav",
        "text": "行政院版還沒有進來你就要硬搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/557.wav",
        "text": "請問一下今天協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/558.wav",
        "text": "有沒有行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/559.wav",
        "text": "你胡說八道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/560.wav",
        "text": "7月2號4號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/561.wav",
        "text": "我們的協商就是用行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/562.wav",
        "text": "版本在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/563.wav",
        "text": "我建議一下好不好柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/564.wav",
        "text": "7月2號7月9號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/565.wav",
        "text": "按照行政院的版本在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/566.wav",
        "text": "因此今天才會有協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/567.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/568.wav",
        "text": "您年紀大了是不是還是您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/569.wav",
        "text": "忙多了很抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/570.wav",
        "text": "高金委員我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/571.wav",
        "text": "下面還有其他內政委員會的會發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/572.wav",
        "text": "不清楚的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/573.wav",
        "text": "先講清楚好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/574.wav",
        "text": "先討論名稱問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/575.wav",
        "text": "第1條好好說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/576.wav",
        "text": "我們剛才請內政部部長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/577.wav",
        "text": "也是關於第1條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/578.wav",
        "text": "看看內政部的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/579.wav",
        "text": "再來請召集委員說明完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/580.wav",
        "text": "現在是內政委員會像現在是麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/581.wav",
        "text": "發言張宏陸委員要準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/582.wav",
        "text": "你先聽完好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/583.wav",
        "text": "請他說明他們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/584.wav",
        "text": "提出來修正案的版本是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/585.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員你不是說讓麥玉珍委員嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/586.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員請你抓緊時間好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/587.wav",
        "text": "請直接講重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/588.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/589.wav",
        "text": "三位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/590.wav",
        "text": "總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/591.wav",
        "text": "要說明的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/592.wav",
        "text": "剛才我們蘇巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/593.wav",
        "text": "是照你的通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/594.wav",
        "text": "但是因為很多民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/595.wav",
        "text": "反映我們整個條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/596.wav",
        "text": "裡面都沒有放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/597.wav",
        "text": "反歧視的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/598.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/599.wav",
        "text": "修正但是我們沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/600.wav",
        "text": "這個部分也要跟大家說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/601.wav",
        "text": "因為民團說我們沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/602.wav",
        "text": "把這部分放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/603.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/604.wav",
        "text": "希望大家同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/605.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/606.wav",
        "text": "來跟你說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/607.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的黨團還有我進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/608.wav",
        "text": "立法院的第一個優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/609.wav",
        "text": "法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/610.wav",
        "text": "因為從92年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/611.wav",
        "text": "成立到現在大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/612.wav",
        "text": "已經做了多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/613.wav",
        "text": "政府有要求各部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/614.wav",
        "text": "都要推出各個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/615.wav",
        "text": "方案措施來照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/616.wav",
        "text": "新住民並將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/617.wav",
        "text": "都是分列預算各自"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/618.wav",
        "text": "為政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/619.wav",
        "text": "發展的機會因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/620.wav",
        "text": "我們希望整合政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/621.wav",
        "text": "資源廣納各界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/622.wav",
        "text": "人才讓各個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/623.wav",
        "text": "部會依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/624.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個基本法的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/625.wav",
        "text": "平權消除歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/626.wav",
        "text": "便民等等目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/627.wav",
        "text": "作為這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/628.wav",
        "text": "基本法的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/629.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認同蘇巧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/630.wav",
        "text": "所提第1條的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/631.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們等一下再去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/632.wav",
        "text": "因為外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/633.wav",
        "text": "來自各界各地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/634.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣安居樂業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/635.wav",
        "text": "永久住在臺灣我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/636.wav",
        "text": "希望他們定居臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/637.wav",
        "text": "融入臺灣所以我們要定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/638.wav",
        "text": "從認識到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/639.wav",
        "text": "輔導他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/640.wav",
        "text": "在這個過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/641.wav",
        "text": "當中他才有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/642.wav",
        "text": "去幫助別人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/643.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/644.wav",
        "text": "新住民來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/645.wav",
        "text": "是有各種的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/646.wav",
        "text": "但是我們要定義他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/647.wav",
        "text": "身分我們是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/648.wav",
        "text": "以結婚為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/649.wav",
        "text": "最大的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/650.wav",
        "text": "其他則是他即將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/651.wav",
        "text": "成為我們臺灣人了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/652.wav",
        "text": "我們才要納入成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/653.wav",
        "text": "新住民所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/654.wav",
        "text": "希望不要定出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/655.wav",
        "text": "三年還有要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/656.wav",
        "text": "他兼具我國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/657.wav",
        "text": "中\n第三我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/658.wav",
        "text": "有一個專門的窗口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/659.wav",
        "text": "因為栽培人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/660.wav",
        "text": "給予機會才會學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/661.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要希望有一個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/662.wav",
        "text": "讓新住民在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/663.wav",
        "text": "去發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/664.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就是要跟你說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/665.wav",
        "text": "我要立法的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/666.wav",
        "text": "要讓你瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/667.wav",
        "text": "你要好好聽我講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/668.wav",
        "text": "有頭有尾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/669.wav",
        "text": "我們希望你能認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/670.wav",
        "text": "而不是你來這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/671.wav",
        "text": "在審查法案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/672.wav",
        "text": "行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/673.wav",
        "text": "我們也願意等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/674.wav",
        "text": "卻要來翻車吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/675.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/676.wav",
        "text": "我們希望大家能好好討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/677.wav",
        "text": "而不是你一來就直接攻擊我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/678.wav",
        "text": "你要尊重所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/679.wav",
        "text": "逐條就審了兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/680.wav",
        "text": "協商又兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/681.wav",
        "text": "今天是第三次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/682.wav",
        "text": "我們很願意大家共同來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/683.wav",
        "text": "我們想先求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/684.wav",
        "text": "有再求好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/685.wav",
        "text": "大家來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/686.wav",
        "text": "也希望給新住民一個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/687.wav",
        "text": "不要把新住民當成選舉工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/688.wav",
        "text": "爭取預算的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/689.wav",
        "text": "希望大家能好好來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/690.wav",
        "text": "為臺灣服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/691.wav",
        "text": "我們來臺灣已經很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/692.wav",
        "text": "希望大家能有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/693.wav",
        "text": "為臺灣貢獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/694.wav",
        "text": "所以要設一個專門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/695.wav",
        "text": "栽培人才就要給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/696.wav",
        "text": "服務目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/697.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我會生氣我覺得你進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/698.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣對我們很不尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/699.wav",
        "text": "我邏輯很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/700.wav",
        "text": "我現在問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/701.wav",
        "text": "第2項說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/702.wav",
        "text": "怎麼不說明呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/703.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊說明好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/704.wav",
        "text": "張宏陸委員是下一個要發言的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/705.wav",
        "text": "先讓黃珊珊委員先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/706.wav",
        "text": "請張宏陸委員再等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/707.wav",
        "text": "一下各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/708.wav",
        "text": "在委員會其實通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/709.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/710.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才提出來在這邊討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/711.wav",
        "text": "不過麥玉珍也說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/712.wav",
        "text": "他們沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/713.wav",
        "text": "只是提出來並不是不能討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/714.wav",
        "text": "民團要求納入反歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/715.wav",
        "text": "這是我們代表民意的反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/716.wav",
        "text": "的第二部分叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/717.wav",
        "text": "政府對於不同國籍地區新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/718.wav",
        "text": "行政措施一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/719.wav",
        "text": "這是一個基本法的精神而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/720.wav",
        "text": "精神基本法到目前為止相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/721.wav",
        "text": "不管是法院的判例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/722.wav",
        "text": "或者對於基本法的認知跟定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/723.wav",
        "text": "其實是宣示性跟政策性的作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/724.wav",
        "text": "具體執行還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/725.wav",
        "text": "透過各項立法跟施政計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/726.wav",
        "text": "施政方針來落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/727.wav",
        "text": "它是彰顯我們國家的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/728.wav",
        "text": "並不是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/729.wav",
        "text": "就變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/730.wav",
        "text": "不會因為這一條所以其他的法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/731.wav",
        "text": "全部都會變成一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/732.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得不要故意誤解這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/733.wav",
        "text": "民一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/734.wav",
        "text": "但我們還是會有不同平等的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/735.wav",
        "text": "去規範不同的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/736.wav",
        "text": "所以這是宣示性的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/737.wav",
        "text": "僭越其他法律的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/738.wav",
        "text": "這是基本法它是一個原則性跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/739.wav",
        "text": "政策性的宣示而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/740.wav",
        "text": "至於民團的要求我們帶到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/741.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/742.wav",
        "text": "因為張宏陸委員已經等很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/743.wav",
        "text": "然後請蘇巧慧委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/744.wav",
        "text": "拜託各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/745.wav",
        "text": "委員呼籲一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/746.wav",
        "text": "我們聚焦在名稱方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/747.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/748.wav",
        "text": "我們對這個法案討論很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/749.wav",
        "text": "連名稱都還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/750.wav",
        "text": "辦法確定我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/751.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/752.wav",
        "text": "新住民的定義大家看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/753.wav",
        "text": "都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/754.wav",
        "text": "新住民的範圍有多廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/755.wav",
        "text": "不過我必須還是要再強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/756.wav",
        "text": "新住民不是一個種族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/757.wav",
        "text": "不是一個特定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/758.wav",
        "text": "他只是歸化為中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/759.wav",
        "text": "國民之前一個短暫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/760.wav",
        "text": "分定位而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/761.wav",
        "text": "他不是一個種族這點我們必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/762.wav",
        "text": "要再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/763.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民前一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/764.wav",
        "text": "短暫的過程而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/765.wav",
        "text": "問題來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/766.wav",
        "text": "或是新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/767.wav",
        "text": "但我個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/768.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾幾乎都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/769.wav",
        "text": "作用法的作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/770.wav",
        "text": "而我們的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/771.wav",
        "text": "難道非"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/772.wav",
        "text": "我們海外的國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/773.wav",
        "text": "也算新住民嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/774.wav",
        "text": "這個過程當中新住民不歸化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/775.wav",
        "text": "化為中華民國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/776.wav",
        "text": "呢或者是他離婚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/777.wav",
        "text": "都會出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/778.wav",
        "text": "所以那時候才會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/779.wav",
        "text": "我個人是真的很堅持就是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/780.wav",
        "text": "新住民族權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/781.wav",
        "text": "這有兩個目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/782.wav",
        "text": "第一個是身分清楚的界定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/783.wav",
        "text": "第二個是我們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/784.wav",
        "text": "馬上有一個主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/785.wav",
        "text": "如果是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/786.wav",
        "text": "你的主管機關不知道在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/787.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很嚴肅的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/788.wav",
        "text": "而且在全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/789.wav",
        "text": "各國沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/790.wav",
        "text": "去特別訂定一個法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/791.wav",
        "text": "我覺得臺灣是一個進步的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/792.wav",
        "text": "象徵但是在一個進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/793.wav",
        "text": "院長新住民不是一個種族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/794.wav",
        "text": "只是一個短暫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/795.wav",
        "text": "身分而已我們也不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/796.wav",
        "text": "讓他被標籤化這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/797.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張宏陸委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/798.wav",
        "text": "發言\n接下來請蘇巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/799.wav",
        "text": "發言然後請吳思瑤委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/800.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/801.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝各位同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/802.wav",
        "text": "我想是這樣子啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/803.wav",
        "text": "立法院以及電視的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/804.wav",
        "text": "轉播媒體網路的轉播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/805.wav",
        "text": "都開始認真學習了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/806.wav",
        "text": "憲法那麼我也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/807.wav",
        "text": "透過今天的這場協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/808.wav",
        "text": "大家可以認真來瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/809.wav",
        "text": "一下在法律的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/810.wav",
        "text": "架構裡面到底什麼是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/811.wav",
        "text": "基本法什麼是作用法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/812.wav",
        "text": "基本法所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/813.wav",
        "text": "定義出來到底會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/814.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的效果會約制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/815.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/816.wav",
        "text": "其他的競合作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/817.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/818.wav",
        "text": "作為一個立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/819.wav",
        "text": "當我們在立法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/820.wav",
        "text": "真的需要澈底瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/821.wav",
        "text": "並且確認的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/822.wav",
        "text": "恕我沒有辦法同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/823.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/824.wav",
        "text": "如果我們基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/825.wav",
        "text": "定出來就跟憲法一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/826.wav",
        "text": "是在宣示一個方向和精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/827.wav",
        "text": "其實不見得會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/828.wav",
        "text": "馬上處理到其他的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/829.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/830.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話那我們乾脆寫一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/831.wav",
        "text": "我們何必要制定一部法律呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/832.wav",
        "text": "其實基本法定義出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/833.wav",
        "text": "它就是最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/834.wav",
        "text": "一個位階幾乎就等同於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/835.wav",
        "text": "是憲法一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/836.wav",
        "text": "所以憲法規定的這麼寬這麼廣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/837.wav",
        "text": "但是就確立了國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/838.wav",
        "text": "方向所以任何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/839.wav",
        "text": "下面位階的法律不能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/840.wav",
        "text": "違背憲法這是大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/841.wav",
        "text": "應該有的常識這沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/842.wav",
        "text": "所以今天如果我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/843.wav",
        "text": "一旦訂定的是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/844.wav",
        "text": "各位即便它是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/845.wav",
        "text": "基本法但它處理的不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/846.wav",
        "text": "只有新住民的部分而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/847.wav",
        "text": "它在中華民國的法律"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/848.wav",
        "text": "體系裡面就是一個基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/849.wav",
        "text": "其他的法律碰到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/850.wav",
        "text": "它位階都在它之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/851.wav",
        "text": "這才是今天最大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/852.wav",
        "text": "問題啊所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/853.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/854.wav",
        "text": "從委員會時期就一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/855.wav",
        "text": "在主張各位我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/856.wav",
        "text": "到底訂定的是權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/857.wav",
        "text": "法是一個作用法還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/858.wav",
        "text": "基本法這有絕對根本性的差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/859.wav",
        "text": "我也想請主席也就是我們院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/860.wav",
        "text": "您也很忙您可能今天第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/861.wav",
        "text": "聽到這樣的狀況但這確實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/862.wav",
        "text": "有重大的差異這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/863.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個以個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/864.wav",
        "text": "來講的話我個人本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/865.wav",
        "text": "提出的法律案我的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/866.wav",
        "text": "本來就是基本法而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/867.wav",
        "text": "我在經過了委員會的討論之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/868.wav",
        "text": "我接受了部會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/869.wav",
        "text": "意見以及委員們大家的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/870.wav",
        "text": "討論也就是我剛剛的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/871.wav",
        "text": "這一番論述正是因為在委員會討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/872.wav",
        "text": "之後我同意了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/873.wav",
        "text": "所以我已經把我自己的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/874.wav",
        "text": "我當時明白地表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/875.wav",
        "text": "我放棄基本法的這個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/876.wav",
        "text": "我接受權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/877.wav",
        "text": "因為這不但是法律位階的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/878.wav",
        "text": "而且權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/879.wav",
        "text": "是作用法現在訂定了馬上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/880.wav",
        "text": "就可以執行不用再像基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/881.wav",
        "text": "去訂定子法對新住民的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/882.wav",
        "text": "不是更好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/883.wav",
        "text": "好如果再往下面走的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/884.wav",
        "text": "其實下面的專責機關也都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/885.wav",
        "text": "一樣的狀況啊所以既然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/886.wav",
        "text": "院長說現在只討論名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/887.wav",
        "text": "我就跟你只討論名稱我說到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/888.wav",
        "text": "這裡第一個我討論基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/889.wav",
        "text": "的效用第二個我用我個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/890.wav",
        "text": "的版本為例我放棄了我的基本法版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/891.wav",
        "text": "採用院版權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/892.wav",
        "text": "的版本以此來跟大家舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/893.wav",
        "text": "第三我在這裡要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/894.wav",
        "text": "請求內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/895.wav",
        "text": "以及今天在場的陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/896.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/897.wav",
        "text": "\n如果我們今天訂定的是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/898.wav",
        "text": "之後會和現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/899.wav",
        "text": "的兩岸人民關係條例產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/900.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的競合作用會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/901.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的效果請在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/902.wav",
        "text": "我們知道今天如果訂定的是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/903.wav",
        "text": "會有多嚴重的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/904.wav",
        "text": "好第一輪委員發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/905.wav",
        "text": "再請內政部跟陸委會提出說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/906.wav",
        "text": "好嗎因為還有好幾個委員有不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/907.wav",
        "text": "的意見\n接下來請吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/908.wav",
        "text": "委員發言張智倫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/909.wav",
        "text": "委員請準備謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/910.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤第一輪發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/911.wav",
        "text": "我想名稱是重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/912.wav",
        "text": "的名稱會為這個法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/913.wav",
        "text": "來定調來定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/914.wav",
        "text": "都有一致的看法也包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/915.wav",
        "text": "行政部門我們綜整的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/916.wav",
        "text": "是用新住民權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/917.wav",
        "text": "保障法這會優於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/918.wav",
        "text": "在野黨委員所期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/919.wav",
        "text": "的新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/920.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個法律名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/921.wav",
        "text": "我們要對新住民族的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/922.wav",
        "text": "照顧及各方面生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/923.wav",
        "text": "的支持應當是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/924.wav",
        "text": "很務實的能夠發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/925.wav",
        "text": "實際的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/926.wav",
        "text": "而不是列一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/927.wav",
        "text": "很好聽的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/928.wav",
        "text": "但它恐怕是一個空中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/929.wav",
        "text": "用什麼樣的方式能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/930.wav",
        "text": "實質具體有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/931.wav",
        "text": "快速地來幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/932.wav",
        "text": "新住民呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/933.wav",
        "text": "如果是用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/934.wav",
        "text": "很清楚地能夠針對新住民族的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/935.wav",
        "text": "權益及福利法制化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/936.wav",
        "text": "為未來新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/937.wav",
        "text": "政策提供一個清楚的法律授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/938.wav",
        "text": "訂定基本法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/939.wav",
        "text": "它就是一個落實憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/940.wav",
        "text": "平等多元精神那樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/941.wav",
        "text": "基本原則並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/942.wav",
        "text": "辦法直接產生效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/943.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛大家都講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/944.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法很清楚就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/945.wav",
        "text": "作用法具有實質的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/946.wav",
        "text": "效力如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/947.wav",
        "text": "基本法就只有政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/948.wav",
        "text": "宣示的效力大不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/949.wav",
        "text": "而在相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/950.wav",
        "text": "政策支持的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/951.wav",
        "text": "快或慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/952.wav",
        "text": "能夠獲益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/953.wav",
        "text": "於新住民的朋友們呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/954.wav",
        "text": "如果用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/955.wav",
        "text": "它可以在通過後直接規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/956.wav",
        "text": "行政單位快速執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/957.wav",
        "text": "但是如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/958.wav",
        "text": "基本法還需要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/959.wav",
        "text": "制定其他的法規來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/960.wav",
        "text": "引以作用所以這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/961.wav",
        "text": "對於新住民族的權益照顧反而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/962.wav",
        "text": "是慢的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/963.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一個就條文的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/964.wav",
        "text": "是一個作用法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/965.wav",
        "text": "我們可以很明確地就依據委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/966.wav",
        "text": "討論的過程所訂定出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/967.wav",
        "text": "它規範實際執行的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/968.wav",
        "text": "條文的內容非常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/969.wav",
        "text": "具體可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/970.wav",
        "text": "如果是採取基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/971.wav",
        "text": "的方法它是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/972.wav",
        "text": "訂定精神方向原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/973.wav",
        "text": "而已的空泛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/974.wav",
        "text": "的條文沒有辦法實質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/975.wav",
        "text": "對於新住民族的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/976.wav",
        "text": "照顧發生直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/977.wav",
        "text": "快速的效用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/978.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛高金素梅委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/979.wav",
        "text": "我們現在有很多部基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/980.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤參與非常多部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/981.wav",
        "text": "就包括文化基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/982.wav",
        "text": "我們有參與過基本法立法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/983.wav",
        "text": "委員都非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/984.wav",
        "text": "它是訂定空泛的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/985.wav",
        "text": "及體例選擇下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/986.wav",
        "text": "才是對於新住民族快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/987.wav",
        "text": "有效有實質的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/988.wav",
        "text": "絕對是新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/989.wav",
        "text": "而不是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/990.wav",
        "text": "比較中看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/991.wav",
        "text": "而不馬上中用的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/992.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個名稱的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/993.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個我也要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/994.wav",
        "text": "今天看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/995.wav",
        "text": "第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/996.wav",
        "text": "在委員會通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/997.wav",
        "text": "再用修正動議不是不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/998.wav",
        "text": "但是需要有清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/999.wav",
        "text": "的提案說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1000.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1001.wav",
        "text": "不管是麥玉珍委員或黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1002.wav",
        "text": "都只說明了第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1003.wav",
        "text": "第1項就是你們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1004.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠把反歧視的部分放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1005.wav",
        "text": "文字可以商酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1006.wav",
        "text": "那我也跟您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1007.wav",
        "text": "行政院也在研議一個全方位的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1008.wav",
        "text": "未來那一套專法裡頭對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1009.wav",
        "text": "不管新住民原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1010.wav",
        "text": "不管所有在臺灣的各類性別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1011.wav",
        "text": "身障等各方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1012.wav",
        "text": "會有一部專法來保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1013.wav",
        "text": "因為反歧視而去改變委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1014.wav",
        "text": "已經審查的第1條第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1015.wav",
        "text": "我認為是可以商酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1016.wav",
        "text": "酌也很感謝你們剛剛說你們不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1017.wav",
        "text": "但第2項你們堅不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1018.wav",
        "text": "這就很重要了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1019.wav",
        "text": "說服我們很清楚地揭示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1020.wav",
        "text": "給大眾為什麼民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1021.wav",
        "text": "要列這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1022.wav",
        "text": "\n政府對於不同國籍或地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1023.wav",
        "text": "之新住民行政措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1024.wav",
        "text": "應一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1025.wav",
        "text": "我必須說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1026.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1027.wav",
        "text": "有三種一般的外配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1028.wav",
        "text": "所適用的是國籍法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1029.wav",
        "text": "跟入出國移民法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1030.wav",
        "text": "港澳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1031.wav",
        "text": "的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1032.wav",
        "text": "嫁到臺灣來所適用的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1033.wav",
        "text": "港澳條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1034.wav",
        "text": "百分之六十的陸配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1035.wav",
        "text": "所適用的是兩岸人民關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1036.wav",
        "text": "條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1037.wav",
        "text": "都有不同的法律在規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1038.wav",
        "text": "提供他們必要的權利義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1039.wav",
        "text": "有不同的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1040.wav",
        "text": "但如果麥玉珍委員把第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1041.wav",
        "text": "用基本法的高位階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1042.wav",
        "text": "換言之未來訂定在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1043.wav",
        "text": "第1條第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1044.wav",
        "text": "就會優於所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1045.wav",
        "text": "的這將會在法律的適用上發生很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1046.wav",
        "text": "扞格也就是未來你所定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1047.wav",
        "text": "的新住民完全取代了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1048.wav",
        "text": "兩岸人民關係條例對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1049.wav",
        "text": "陸配的管制也取代了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1050.wav",
        "text": "港澳條例對於港澳人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1051.wav",
        "text": "配偶在臺灣所享有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1052.wav",
        "text": "或是應盡的義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1053.wav",
        "text": "凌駕了其他臺灣已經有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1054.wav",
        "text": "的法規而當中非常敏感的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1055.wav",
        "text": "有陸配他是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1056.wav",
        "text": "兩岸人民關係條例的管制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1057.wav",
        "text": "所以這個請麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1058.wav",
        "text": "要具體的說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1059.wav",
        "text": "為什麼民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1060.wav",
        "text": "在委員會通過了第1條之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1061.wav",
        "text": "你們要再提修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1062.wav",
        "text": "而這個第2項讓我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1063.wav",
        "text": "非常需要探究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1064.wav",
        "text": "你們的立法理由是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1065.wav",
        "text": "等一下請您務必要清楚地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1066.wav",
        "text": "說明因為它會跟其他適用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1067.wav",
        "text": "法律身分上的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1068.wav",
        "text": "產生非常嚴重的扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1069.wav",
        "text": "\n第三點我很快做個ending"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1070.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你們也說因為有民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1071.wav",
        "text": "的意見我這邊也接獲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1072.wav",
        "text": "很多民團對於新住民族權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1073.wav",
        "text": "保障法的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1074.wav",
        "text": "我想大家也看到新聞了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1075.wav",
        "text": "民團在這個法案在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1076.wav",
        "text": "初審過後甚至"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1077.wav",
        "text": "要進入朝野協商的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1078.wav",
        "text": "民團都站出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1079.wav",
        "text": "他們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1080.wav",
        "text": "朝野不要像趕鴨子一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1081.wav",
        "text": "通過一部拼裝車的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1082.wav",
        "text": "讓新住民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1083.wav",
        "text": "有如洩氣的小鴨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1084.wav",
        "text": "有跟沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1085.wav",
        "text": "變成是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1086.wav",
        "text": "這個是數個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1087.wav",
        "text": "新住民族的團體們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1088.wav",
        "text": "不要倉促的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1089.wav",
        "text": "因為事實上這個法案沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1090.wav",
        "text": "經過非常嚴謹或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1091.wav",
        "text": "多元的公聽會等很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1092.wav",
        "text": "我這邊也接觸了很多的民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1093.wav",
        "text": "他們認為快速倉促"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1094.wav",
        "text": "地來通過一個有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1095.wav",
        "text": "跟沒有一樣的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1096.wav",
        "text": "對他們來說就像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1097.wav",
        "text": "洩氣的鴨子一樣我也必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1098.wav",
        "text": "表達人民的聲音所以希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1099.wav",
        "text": "主席等一下可以請提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1100.wav",
        "text": "針對第1條的第2項說明因為剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1101.wav",
        "text": "沒有具體說明我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1102.wav",
        "text": "這個條文如果要增列的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1103.wav",
        "text": "這是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1104.wav",
        "text": "核心我們必須清楚地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1105.wav",
        "text": "地交換意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1106.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席首先我要先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1107.wav",
        "text": "釐清一下這整個法案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1108.wav",
        "text": "審議過程我認為柯總召剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1109.wav",
        "text": "對於高金召委的說法是有一點不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1110.wav",
        "text": "那個狀況是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1111.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法對國民黨跟民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1112.wav",
        "text": "來講都是重要的優先法案我們當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1113.wav",
        "text": "希望這個法案的推動可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1114.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會討論的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1115.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望院版能夠儘速地提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1116.wav",
        "text": "所以在6月那一場委員會的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1117.wav",
        "text": "之後最後達成一定的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1118.wav",
        "text": "換言之我們會等待院版進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1119.wav",
        "text": "之後由高金召委主動召集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1120.wav",
        "text": "協商在協商的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1121.wav",
        "text": "中就像委員會開會一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1122.wav",
        "text": "會主動邀請所有內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1123.wav",
        "text": "的委員再次來參與並且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1124.wav",
        "text": "仔細地討論我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1125.wav",
        "text": "這兩次的協商也確實有說到做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1126.wav",
        "text": "我們儘量地來收縮法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1127.wav",
        "text": "的數量儘量地達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1128.wav",
        "text": "也充分地進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1129.wav",
        "text": "所以我想雖然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1130.wav",
        "text": "院版進來的速度慢了一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1131.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有丟包的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1132.wav",
        "text": "如果丟包的話今天怎麼會有院版的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1133.wav",
        "text": "版本在裡面討論呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1134.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這件事情就到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1135.wav",
        "text": "我們針對法條好好來說明就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1136.wav",
        "text": "\n有關於法案的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1137.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們主張是新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1138.wav",
        "text": "在這裡也要做一個說明其實跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1139.wav",
        "text": "剛剛吳思瑤委員表達民團的關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1140.wav",
        "text": "也是有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1141.wav",
        "text": "因為事實上這個法案在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1142.wav",
        "text": "審議的過程中我們走的是先易後難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1143.wav",
        "text": "也就是說先把法案一些細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1144.wav",
        "text": "的部分做了完整的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1145.wav",
        "text": "大體上都快速的取得了共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1146.wav",
        "text": "關鍵就是我們取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1147.wav",
        "text": "共識的基本上討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1148.wav",
        "text": "的概念下去立法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1149.wav",
        "text": "換言之我們現在在委員會通過了各項內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1150.wav",
        "text": "的條文裡面其實就是原則性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1151.wav",
        "text": "的規範民團後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1152.wav",
        "text": "為什麼提出了一些批評跟指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1153.wav",
        "text": "為什麼說像洩氣的小鴨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1154.wav",
        "text": "因為按照委員會通過的版本他們是不是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1155.wav",
        "text": "強度不夠高他們是不是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1156.wav",
        "text": "具體來說可以有更詳細的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1157.wav",
        "text": "更清楚的說明\n可是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1158.wav",
        "text": "我們通過的版本比較接近原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1159.wav",
        "text": "的版本而不是有足夠的強度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1160.wav",
        "text": "就是因為當初整部法條的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1161.wav",
        "text": "是用基本法的法條下去過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1162.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們希望在這個基本法通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1163.wav",
        "text": "有專責的機關有相關配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1164.wav",
        "text": "的子法能夠再強化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1165.wav",
        "text": "它實際上執行的內容它應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1166.wav",
        "text": "用這樣子的步驟來完成這樣子的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1167.wav",
        "text": "程序現在行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1168.wav",
        "text": "寫的強度跟基本法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1169.wav",
        "text": "差不多的時候如果我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1170.wav",
        "text": "以權益保障法的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1171.wav",
        "text": "過關難道不會變成強度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1172.wav",
        "text": "不夠嗎\n你如果講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1173.wav",
        "text": "一個作用法你的內容就要更完善更明顯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1174.wav",
        "text": "更具體民團才會滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1175.wav",
        "text": "嘛才不會是所謂的拼裝車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1176.wav",
        "text": "嘛今天不希望是拼裝車的話應該是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1177.wav",
        "text": "先規範大的方向跟內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1178.wav",
        "text": "再透過子法透過政策的配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1179.wav",
        "text": "去完善詳盡的細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1180.wav",
        "text": "我想這才是一個比較正確的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1181.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這個基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1182.wav",
        "text": "還是在這一次的修法我們要考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1183.wav",
        "text": "已經通過的這些法條會是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1184.wav",
        "text": "\n那麼有關於第1條的部分當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1185.wav",
        "text": "如果民眾黨沒有這麼堅持大家在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1186.wav",
        "text": "意義上釐清之後如果沒有特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1187.wav",
        "text": "堅持我是覺得就不用花太多時間討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1188.wav",
        "text": "今天難就難在法案名稱主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1189.wav",
        "text": "機關跟適用對象這三大爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1190.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣透過協商的機制來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1191.wav",
        "text": "我想還是比較重要期待大家理性討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1192.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1193.wav",
        "text": "謝謝牛煦庭委員發言接下來請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1194.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員發言張智倫委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1195.wav",
        "text": "好我簡短發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1196.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛宏陸委員已經講過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1197.wav",
        "text": "按照我們現在所有基本法它就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1198.wav",
        "text": "不應該適用基本法的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1199.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1200.wav",
        "text": "第二點就像剛剛思瑤委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1201.wav",
        "text": "作用它不能夠直接作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1202.wav",
        "text": "剛剛牛委員也有提到按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1203.wav",
        "text": "有很多宣示性的規定第一個其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1204.wav",
        "text": "有作用的規定第二個我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1205.wav",
        "text": "最重要的就是因為現在新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1206.wav",
        "text": "我們對待的方式它本來就已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1207.wav",
        "text": "在作用這就是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1208.wav",
        "text": "用作用法其實還是比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1209.wav",
        "text": "合適的一個原因所以第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1210.wav",
        "text": "它的身分本來就不適合用基本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1211.wav",
        "text": "法第二個是它已經有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1212.wav",
        "text": "實際的作用正在進行當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1213.wav",
        "text": "所以用作用法其實還是比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1214.wav",
        "text": "合適這就是為什麼還是要用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1215.wav",
        "text": "這個當然也會連結到剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1216.wav",
        "text": "高金委員提到的到底要不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1217.wav",
        "text": "委員會就是它如果用基本法的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1218.wav",
        "text": "才會連結到委員會那一個不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1219.wav",
        "text": "的話其實應該依照現行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1220.wav",
        "text": "作用直接讓各機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1221.wav",
        "text": "依照現在這個權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1222.wav",
        "text": "的原理原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1223.wav",
        "text": "直接去適用做他們現在的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1224.wav",
        "text": "這才是比較合適的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1225.wav",
        "text": "第1條剛剛那個第2項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1226.wav",
        "text": "即使按照憲法因為新住民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1227.wav",
        "text": "分是比較模糊的它是一個過渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1228.wav",
        "text": "的階段而且很多人是不喜歡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1229.wav",
        "text": "新住民這個名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1230.wav",
        "text": "他自己都很不喜歡所以在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1231.wav",
        "text": "第2項的狀況之下它一定會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1232.wav",
        "text": "跟兩岸條例有衝突如果今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1233.wav",
        "text": "我們使用了基本法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1234.wav",
        "text": "兩岸條例馬上就要問那我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1235.wav",
        "text": "現在跟這個基本法的衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1236.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼辦這是馬上就必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1237.wav",
        "text": "要解決的事情而這個會非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1238.wav",
        "text": "難解決因為不管是兩岸條例還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1239.wav",
        "text": "港澳條例關於中配其實有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1240.wav",
        "text": "非常細緻的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1241.wav",
        "text": "謝謝沈伯洋委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1242.wav",
        "text": "發言接下來請張智倫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1243.wav",
        "text": "委員發言請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1244.wav",
        "text": "各位委員各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1245.wav",
        "text": "大家午安大家都辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1246.wav",
        "text": "我相信不分黨派大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1247.wav",
        "text": "都是為了新住民的權益在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1248.wav",
        "text": "我們高金召委聲援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1249.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法是從第九"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1250.wav",
        "text": "屆第十屆來到第十一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1251.wav",
        "text": "大家不分黨派的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1252.wav",
        "text": "移民署的努力之下才有行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1253.wav",
        "text": "版當然就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1254.wav",
        "text": "過去長期以來移民署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1255.wav",
        "text": "因為是三級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1256.wav",
        "text": "很多跨部會的事情它沒有辦法去協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1257.wav",
        "text": "現在新住民已經超過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1258.wav",
        "text": "一百萬人可是在保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1259.wav",
        "text": "很多部分是缺乏的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1260.wav",
        "text": "事務會報一年兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1261.wav",
        "text": "其實數量也是很少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1262.wav",
        "text": "就我瞭解今年上半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1263.wav",
        "text": "也是因為要修法的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1264.wav",
        "text": "統統沒有開事務委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1265.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛沈伯洋委員講的我也是認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1266.wav",
        "text": "要做新住民基本法才有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1267.wav",
        "text": "相關的權責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1268.wav",
        "text": "去做一個跨部會的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1269.wav",
        "text": "跟協調所以這才是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1270.wav",
        "text": "第一個覺得最需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1271.wav",
        "text": "權責機關\n我這邊還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1272.wav",
        "text": "相對應要補充的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1273.wav",
        "text": "就是新住民的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1274.wav",
        "text": "之前給出的版本是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1275.wav",
        "text": "新住民拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1276.wav",
        "text": "3年以後就不是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1277.wav",
        "text": "這一點我覺得非常不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1278.wav",
        "text": "新住民而且還有新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1279.wav",
        "text": "的下一代其實現在很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1280.wav",
        "text": "時候都是享有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1281.wav",
        "text": "之前我們在委員會特別討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1282.wav",
        "text": "其實新住民要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1283.wav",
        "text": "以上才能參選公職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1284.wav",
        "text": "如果3年以後他就不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1285.wav",
        "text": "新住民的話那他就是臺灣人了為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1286.wav",
        "text": "要限制他10年以後才能參選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1287.wav",
        "text": "公職而且我們現在有這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1288.wav",
        "text": "的新住民委員對他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1289.wav",
        "text": "適從所以這都是很嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1290.wav",
        "text": "最後一條最後一條讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1291.wav",
        "text": "我特別緊張的是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1292.wav",
        "text": "希望等一下還可以討論到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1293.wav",
        "text": "的最後一條我希望可以做個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1294.wav",
        "text": "解釋它居然在法條裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1295.wav",
        "text": "列出未來只要新住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1296.wav",
        "text": "民定居了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1297.wav",
        "text": "要優先適用本國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1298.wav",
        "text": "人的法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1299.wav",
        "text": "第一我要請問什麼叫做定居"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1300.wav",
        "text": "本國人的法條那根本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1301.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有保障啊比過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1302.wav",
        "text": "那個三年拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1303.wav",
        "text": "三年的還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1304.wav",
        "text": "是要用新住民的方式去保障所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1305.wav",
        "text": "也就是特別法結果在特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1306.wav",
        "text": "裡面又說特別法要適用普通法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1307.wav",
        "text": "這是非常奇怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1308.wav",
        "text": "因為新住民就是要有一些保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1309.wav",
        "text": "我不知道我這樣講我相信各黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1310.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1311.wav",
        "text": "總統有po了一個臉書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1312.wav",
        "text": "他說我們大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1313.wav",
        "text": "要為新住民的權益大家一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1314.wav",
        "text": "不分黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1315.wav",
        "text": "共同來努力請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1316.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統當時提到的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1317.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1318.wav",
        "text": "\n是現在大家要討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1319.wav",
        "text": "兩岸關係條例的新住民嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1320.wav",
        "text": "還是我們要把這個新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1321.wav",
        "text": "範圍擴大因為我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1322.wav",
        "text": "要制定新住民基本法的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1323.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很單純的一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1324.wav",
        "text": "就是我們臺灣要對抗老年化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1325.wav",
        "text": "和少子化我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1326.wav",
        "text": "都歡迎來到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1327.wav",
        "text": "讓臺灣變成亞洲最歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1328.wav",
        "text": "我相信大家都一直在努力以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1329.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1330.wav",
        "text": "我可能要跟張智倫委員說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1331.wav",
        "text": "定居其實是取得身分證的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1332.wav",
        "text": "定居是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1333.wav",
        "text": "是取得身分證的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1334.wav",
        "text": "跟居留不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1335.wav",
        "text": "我們朝野的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1336.wav",
        "text": "不管是在委員會的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1337.wav",
        "text": "對我的版本很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1338.wav",
        "text": "條次的支持而且也都通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1339.wav",
        "text": "我當然也很謝謝行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1340.wav",
        "text": "在擬定這個法案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1341.wav",
        "text": "其實也參照了很多我的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1342.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1343.wav",
        "text": "現在我們在討論這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1344.wav",
        "text": "到底是要用作用法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1345.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1346.wav",
        "text": "還是要用新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1347.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得很納悶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1348.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在討論的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1349.wav",
        "text": "都用我的條次版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1350.wav",
        "text": "作用法的架構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1351.wav",
        "text": "我們通過了作用法架構的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1352.wav",
        "text": "要用基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1353.wav",
        "text": "很多委員都提到基本法與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1354.wav",
        "text": "這個法令的時候就可以直接作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1355.wav",
        "text": "還要訂定很多子法和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1356.wav",
        "text": "關聯法就像原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1357.wav",
        "text": "基本法走了20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1358.wav",
        "text": "現在還在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1359.wav",
        "text": "如果我們用基本法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1360.wav",
        "text": "以後我們要訂定新住民身分法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1361.wav",
        "text": "如果我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1362.wav",
        "text": "機構我們要設置一個新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1363.wav",
        "text": "專責單位的組織法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1364.wav",
        "text": "就是一切一條一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1365.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是一個捨近求遠的作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1366.wav",
        "text": "用作用法馬上就可以讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1367.wav",
        "text": "這個法律產生效用直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1368.wav",
        "text": "去執行我不知道為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1369.wav",
        "text": "非常遙遠非常空洞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1370.wav",
        "text": "我也參考過原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1371.wav",
        "text": "基本法我也參考過客家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1372.wav",
        "text": "我們最重視的還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1373.wav",
        "text": "在新住民的權益部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1374.wav",
        "text": "你不可能去保存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1375.wav",
        "text": "多個國家的新住民語言文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1376.wav",
        "text": "對不對跟客家基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1377.wav",
        "text": "基本上是不一樣的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1378.wav",
        "text": "也許它的語言文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1379.wav",
        "text": "瀕臨也許是要絕滅所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1380.wav",
        "text": "要保存它但是我們怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1381.wav",
        "text": "可能去保存其他國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1382.wav",
        "text": "東西之後其實我們就剩下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1383.wav",
        "text": "權益的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1384.wav",
        "text": "院長應該理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1385.wav",
        "text": "請柯建銘總召準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1386.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1387.wav",
        "text": "大部分來到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1388.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1389.wav",
        "text": "過幾年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1390.wav",
        "text": "就能夠拿到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1391.wav",
        "text": "的身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1392.wav",
        "text": "臺灣人有一樣的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1393.wav",
        "text": "和照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1394.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就是要照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1395.wav",
        "text": "會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1396.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1397.wav",
        "text": "他嫁來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1398.wav",
        "text": "怕會被家暴怕會被怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1399.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才會去想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1400.wav",
        "text": "這些新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1401.wav",
        "text": "因此我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1402.wav",
        "text": "這個基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1403.wav",
        "text": "原住民是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1404.wav",
        "text": "從早期就已經在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1405.wav",
        "text": "是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1406.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法適應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1407.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1408.wav",
        "text": "要如何來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1409.wav",
        "text": "這不是永遠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1410.wav",
        "text": "措施未來當他拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1411.wav",
        "text": "視同國民後權利都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1412.wav",
        "text": "所以在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1413.wav",
        "text": "我們的好同事跟主席說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1414.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1415.wav",
        "text": "草案我覺得這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1416.wav",
        "text": "可以非常照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1417.wav",
        "text": "所煩惱的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1418.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1419.wav",
        "text": "主席各位同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1420.wav",
        "text": "張智倫不知道是誰講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1421.wav",
        "text": "我們看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1422.wav",
        "text": "國民黨民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1423.wav",
        "text": "所提的全部是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1424.wav",
        "text": "先請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1425.wav",
        "text": "注意一下都是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1426.wav",
        "text": "過去基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1427.wav",
        "text": "都沒有過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1428.wav",
        "text": "他們講是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1429.wav",
        "text": "他們所提的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1430.wav",
        "text": "都是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1431.wav",
        "text": "最上位的東西是基本法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1432.wav",
        "text": "那概念是不一樣的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1433.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1434.wav",
        "text": "是權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1435.wav",
        "text": "那個位階是不一樣的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1436.wav",
        "text": "為什麼藍白所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1437.wav",
        "text": "都是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1438.wav",
        "text": "這有高度的政治意涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1439.wav",
        "text": "你們講的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1440.wav",
        "text": "過去幾屆有人提出來但是都不會過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1441.wav",
        "text": "沒有人敢審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1442.wav",
        "text": "這牽涉太敏感的神經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1443.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為新住民裡面包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1444.wav",
        "text": "所以剛才我一直問黃珊珊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1445.wav",
        "text": "麥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1446.wav",
        "text": "第2項是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1447.wav",
        "text": "都沒有回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1448.wav",
        "text": "政府對於不同國籍"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1449.wav",
        "text": "行政措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1450.wav",
        "text": "應一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1451.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊只能勉強答出一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1452.wav",
        "text": "基本法的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1453.wav",
        "text": "高度政治的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1454.wav",
        "text": "內容這是一個分裂國家的寫法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1455.wav",
        "text": "基本法包括全部架構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1456.wav",
        "text": "和兩岸人民關係條例搭在一起的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1457.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1458.wav",
        "text": "剛才張智倫委員也講到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1459.wav",
        "text": "什麼十年以後才"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1460.wav",
        "text": "可以參選公職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1461.wav",
        "text": "它怎麼解釋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1462.wav",
        "text": "在憲法上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1463.wav",
        "text": "國內都是大家平等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1464.wav",
        "text": "憲法是規定我們國人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1465.wav",
        "text": "但是我們又有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1466.wav",
        "text": "兩岸的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1467.wav",
        "text": "所以在第十一條寫得很清楚"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1468.wav",
        "text": "兩岸要以特殊法律來定之"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1469.wav",
        "text": "就是要讓它有個差別"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1470.wav",
        "text": "嘛大法官釋字"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1471.wav",
        "text": "也講得很清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1472.wav",
        "text": "的當然有差別待遇"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1473.wav",
        "text": "啊要等十年以後才可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1474.wav",
        "text": "因為要有忠誠義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1475.wav",
        "text": "必須澈底考驗你的忠誠義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1476.wav",
        "text": "這個大家要講清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1477.wav",
        "text": "因為你來自敵對國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1478.wav",
        "text": "我們不可能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1479.wav",
        "text": "所謂的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1480.wav",
        "text": "這個問題太大了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1481.wav",
        "text": "獨立委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1482.wav",
        "text": "我們有客家委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1483.wav",
        "text": "因為他是我們本國的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1484.wav",
        "text": "原住民也是本國"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1485.wav",
        "text": "大陸地區的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1486.wav",
        "text": "再設一個就是代表分裂國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1487.wav",
        "text": "連美國"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1488.wav",
        "text": "全世界沒有一個國家敢這樣搞"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1489.wav",
        "text": "內政部裡面的一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1490.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1491.wav",
        "text": "這一點要先談清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1492.wav",
        "text": "第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1493.wav",
        "text": "第1項你沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1494.wav",
        "text": "第2項的問題你要講清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1495.wav",
        "text": "然後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1496.wav",
        "text": "再來就是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1497.wav",
        "text": "我們反對用基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1498.wav",
        "text": "這點大家要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1499.wav",
        "text": "這是一個非常高度政治敏感的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1500.wav",
        "text": "所以我們看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1501.wav",
        "text": "怎麼沒有丟包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1502.wav",
        "text": "就趕快把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1503.wav",
        "text": "\n行政院版本還沒進來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1504.wav",
        "text": "是在算7月16號可以表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1505.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1506.wav",
        "text": "我當初就一直很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1507.wav",
        "text": "再進來的話他們這個會期就不能表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1508.wav",
        "text": "是這個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1509.wav",
        "text": "他們有很多一定要搞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1510.wav",
        "text": "你看這次最後我們馬上面對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1511.wav",
        "text": "都是高度敏感的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1512.wav",
        "text": "都碰到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1513.wav",
        "text": "接下來黃珊珊委員發言李柏毅委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1514.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1515.wav",
        "text": "我想時間也很久大家都講完了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1516.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛講了第1條是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1517.wav",
        "text": "把民團的意見提出來請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1518.wav",
        "text": "討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1519.wav",
        "text": "第二個為什麼會寫第2條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1520.wav",
        "text": "民團的意見講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1521.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣在非常多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1522.wav",
        "text": "行政措施上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1523.wav",
        "text": "對於歐美人士還有東南亞人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1524.wav",
        "text": "有明顯的差別待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1525.wav",
        "text": "比如說警察會常常去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1526.wav",
        "text": "新住民開的小吃店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1527.wav",
        "text": "抓逃逸外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1528.wav",
        "text": "但是可能比較少會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1529.wav",
        "text": "歐美人士所開的店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1530.wav",
        "text": "或者是去對他做一些調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1531.wav",
        "text": "這個是他們感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1532.wav",
        "text": "平等的關係所以他們才會希望說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1533.wav",
        "text": "行政措施上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1534.wav",
        "text": "法律規範本來就不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1535.wav",
        "text": "大家都一樣你為什麼專門找我的小吃店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1536.wav",
        "text": "他們的概念是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1537.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛在講我們對於"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1538.wav",
        "text": "委員會通過之後這個是民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1539.wav",
        "text": "的意見我們沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1540.wav",
        "text": "但是我們總是可以把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1541.wav",
        "text": "挪上來說請內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1542.wav",
        "text": "在行政措施上面也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1543.wav",
        "text": "對待所謂一般"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1544.wav",
        "text": "的新住民不管是歐美"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1545.wav",
        "text": "東南亞或者是陸配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1546.wav",
        "text": "都有一個統一的措施"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1547.wav",
        "text": "而不是單純說他們會感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1548.wav",
        "text": "他們被歧視或被特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1549.wav",
        "text": "對待所以這個是我們第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1550.wav",
        "text": "2項願意幫他們提案的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1551.wav",
        "text": "但是再強調一次這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1552.wav",
        "text": "個內容我們並不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1553.wav",
        "text": "但總是要把他們的話帶到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1554.wav",
        "text": "也希望內政部針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1555.wav",
        "text": "有這樣不同待遇的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1556.wav",
        "text": "尤其內政部警政署對於警察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1557.wav",
        "text": "可以給他們建議說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1558.wav",
        "text": "在操作上面不要特別針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1559.wav",
        "text": "東南亞人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1560.wav",
        "text": "你說是民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1561.wav",
        "text": "民團是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1562.wav",
        "text": "第1項還第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1563.wav",
        "text": "第2項是哪一個民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1564.wav",
        "text": "第2項這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1565.wav",
        "text": "高度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1566.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在講說民團提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1567.wav",
        "text": "我們提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1568.wav",
        "text": "柯總召你請求發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1569.wav",
        "text": "柯總召我們今天不是來針對哪一個民團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1570.wav",
        "text": "而是我們有意見提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1571.wav",
        "text": "這不是一個討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1572.wav",
        "text": "所以我的意思是說你不用針對這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1573.wav",
        "text": "你們要對自己講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1574.wav",
        "text": "負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1575.wav",
        "text": "民團為什麼希望一致的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1576.wav",
        "text": "就是因為他們常常被臨檢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1577.wav",
        "text": "第2項你有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1578.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1579.wav",
        "text": "啊沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1580.wav",
        "text": "再講一次沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1581.wav",
        "text": "不要再扯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1582.wav",
        "text": "對我們聽行政部門講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1583.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1584.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員總召請你把麥克風壓掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1585.wav",
        "text": "因為行政部門到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1586.wav",
        "text": "陸委會還沒有表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1587.wav",
        "text": "內政部要再請表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1588.wav",
        "text": "現在委員第一輪發言完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1589.wav",
        "text": "等內政部跟陸委會發言完再請蘇巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1590.wav",
        "text": "\n請劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1591.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1592.wav",
        "text": "我想在澄清這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1593.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法或基本法之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1594.wav",
        "text": "先跟各位委員再補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1595.wav",
        "text": "報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1596.wav",
        "text": "剛剛很多委員對於內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1597.wav",
        "text": "現在在處理有關於新住民權益的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1598.wav",
        "text": "可能有一些資訊上的落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1599.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1600.wav",
        "text": "很早以前我們處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1601.wav",
        "text": "新住民的權益並不是從零開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1602.wav",
        "text": "其實已經有很多的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1603.wav",
        "text": "包括92年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1604.wav",
        "text": "就已經提供了所謂的八大照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1605.wav",
        "text": "服務措施當然這裡面包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1606.wav",
        "text": "勞動部衛福部教育部文化部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1607.wav",
        "text": "這些機關都有推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1608.wav",
        "text": "而且94年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1609.wav",
        "text": "每一年挹注的基金大概是3億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1610.wav",
        "text": "左右並不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1611.wav",
        "text": "完全是零而且每半年都需要管考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1612.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1613.wav",
        "text": "\n然後再來就是有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1614.wav",
        "text": "因為大家的討論裡面集中在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1615.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是名稱的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1616.wav",
        "text": "還有因為民眾黨有提出第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1617.wav",
        "text": "要修正的問題還有第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1618.wav",
        "text": "或是下列情形的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1619.wav",
        "text": "我想就綜合跟大家來做一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1620.wav",
        "text": "說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1621.wav",
        "text": "剛剛張智倫委員特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1622.wav",
        "text": "有所謂的三年條款事實上我們上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1623.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1624.wav",
        "text": "因為包括麥委員也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1625.wav",
        "text": "或是羅委員他們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1626.wav",
        "text": "新住民是他們的榮譽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1627.wav",
        "text": "新住民所以我們尊重身分認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1628.wav",
        "text": "三年已經拿掉了這點跟大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1629.wav",
        "text": "報告只不過因為今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1630.wav",
        "text": "按照我們的立法規範審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1631.wav",
        "text": "通過的版本要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1632.wav",
        "text": "留著給大家作參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1633.wav",
        "text": "\n再來還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1634.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們不認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1635.wav",
        "text": "新住民要用基本法的另外一個理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1636.wav",
        "text": "是基於客家基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1637.wav",
        "text": "或是原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1638.wav",
        "text": "客家人也好原住民也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1639.wav",
        "text": "生來就取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1640.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1641.wav",
        "text": "本來就有中華民國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1642.wav",
        "text": "但是很多新住民因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1643.wav",
        "text": "婚姻工作或是其他的關係來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1644.wav",
        "text": "臺灣之前還沒有取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1645.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1646.wav",
        "text": "身分證或者是取得戶籍之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1647.wav",
        "text": "他是不是可以受到中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1648.wav",
        "text": "政府裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1649.wav",
        "text": "權益保障的這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1650.wav",
        "text": "話其實我們就是要把它納進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1651.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1652.wav",
        "text": "就不會從零開始因為基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1653.wav",
        "text": "作用法變成是從零開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1654.wav",
        "text": "用權益保障法的話可以馬上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1655.wav",
        "text": "成立專責機構或專責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1656.wav",
        "text": "單位像剛剛跟各位報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1657.wav",
        "text": "如果通過新住民權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1658.wav",
        "text": "法的話在中央的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1659.wav",
        "text": "主管機關就是內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1660.wav",
        "text": "講得非常清楚如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1661.wav",
        "text": "基本法的話第一個必須要再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1662.wav",
        "text": "訂定作用法像剛剛所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1663.wav",
        "text": "可能還有新住民教育法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1664.wav",
        "text": "新住民福利法新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1665.wav",
        "text": "的勞動基準法等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1666.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1667.wav",
        "text": "要再成立中央的專責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1668.wav",
        "text": "的話目前我們查到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1669.wav",
        "text": "違反中央行政機關組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1670.wav",
        "text": "基準法以外我們還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1671.wav",
        "text": "再修改現在的行政院組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1672.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨黨團所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1673.wav",
        "text": "要把裡面的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1674.wav",
        "text": "規範放寬也就是放寬到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1675.wav",
        "text": "所謂非常廣義的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1676.wav",
        "text": "海外僑民目前我們所知道的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1677.wav",
        "text": "中華民國政府全部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1678.wav",
        "text": "資源挹注到所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1679.wav",
        "text": "權益保障上面我們以平等原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1680.wav",
        "text": "來看待之下會強烈地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1681.wav",
        "text": "稀釋掉所有現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1682.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不認為現在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1683.wav",
        "text": "階段可以適用基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1684.wav",
        "text": "以上簡單報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1685.wav",
        "text": "謝謝劉部長的報告接下來我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1686.wav",
        "text": "陸委會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1687.wav",
        "text": "然後請蘇巧慧委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1688.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧委員發言完我們就必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1689.wav",
        "text": "休息準備再協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1690.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n請陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1691.wav",
        "text": "韓院長各位委員好陸委會在這邊報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1692.wav",
        "text": "我想首先講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1693.wav",
        "text": "為什麼陸委會會坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1694.wav",
        "text": "因為在所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1695.wav",
        "text": "的新住民當中有65%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1696.wav",
        "text": "是所謂的陸配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1697.wav",
        "text": "原陸籍的配偶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1698.wav",
        "text": "所以當大家在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1699.wav",
        "text": "新住民的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1700.wav",
        "text": "最大多數的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1701.wav",
        "text": "或是大陸人士在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1702.wav",
        "text": "以我們陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1703.wav",
        "text": "的理解或者從1992年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1704.wav",
        "text": "兩岸關係條例制定以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1705.wav",
        "text": "其實兩岸關係條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1706.wav",
        "text": "就是這一塊的基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1707.wav",
        "text": "我們同樣還有另外一個基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1708.wav",
        "text": "叫做港澳條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1709.wav",
        "text": "是特別針對港澳人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1710.wav",
        "text": "所以今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1711.wav",
        "text": "我們把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1712.wav",
        "text": "原大陸籍人士跟原港澳籍人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1713.wav",
        "text": "全部通通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1714.wav",
        "text": "通通稱為新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1715.wav",
        "text": "然後用一個新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1716.wav",
        "text": "來概括它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1717.wav",
        "text": "那就變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1718.wav",
        "text": "我們原來的兩岸條例或是港澳條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1719.wav",
        "text": "變成這個基本法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1720.wav",
        "text": "這個未來會不會有什麼扞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1721.wav",
        "text": "有一些很特別的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1722.wav",
        "text": "在婚姻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1723.wav",
        "text": "居留定居繼承"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1724.wav",
        "text": "刑事民事稅收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1725.wav",
        "text": "任公職等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1726.wav",
        "text": "我們對於原大陸籍人士都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1727.wav",
        "text": "有一些不同於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1728.wav",
        "text": "一般的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1729.wav",
        "text": "我們對於港澳人士也是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1730.wav",
        "text": "所以它是特殊規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1731.wav",
        "text": "如果我們把它全部稱為新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1732.wav",
        "text": "然後說一律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1733.wav",
        "text": "要平等的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1734.wav",
        "text": "未來我們的港澳條例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1735.wav",
        "text": "跟兩岸人民關係條例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1736.wav",
        "text": "有很多可能要配合修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1737.wav",
        "text": "無法執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1738.wav",
        "text": "違反基本法的精神"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1739.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1740.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點這麼多年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1741.wav",
        "text": "陸委會跟移民署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1742.wav",
        "text": "都有在負責陸配的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1743.wav",
        "text": "照顧工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1744.wav",
        "text": "我們所理解的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1745.wav",
        "text": "其實原陸籍的大陸配偶"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1746.wav",
        "text": "並不希望被稱為新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1747.wav",
        "text": "他們希望成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1748.wav",
        "text": "臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1749.wav",
        "text": "所以今天如果把這"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1750.wav",
        "text": "65%這麼多的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1751.wav",
        "text": "全部把他們和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1752.wav",
        "text": "其他國家的配偶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1753.wav",
        "text": "一起當作新住民"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1754.wav",
        "text": "這是第二點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1755.wav",
        "text": "\n第三點如果說這個叫作基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1756.wav",
        "text": "未來可能還要成立一個行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1757.wav",
        "text": "新住民委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1758.wav",
        "text": "那這個新住民委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1759.wav",
        "text": "或者是執行的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1760.wav",
        "text": "很多工作其實會和我們陸委會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1761.wav",
        "text": "這個委員會可能對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1762.wav",
        "text": "新住民的事務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1763.wav",
        "text": "譬如說它可能覺得港澳人士"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1764.wav",
        "text": "為什麼來臺一年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1765.wav",
        "text": "就可以申請定居"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1766.wav",
        "text": "它可能覺得有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1767.wav",
        "text": "那這個東西就會和我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1768.wav",
        "text": "陸委會所執掌的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1769.wav",
        "text": "港澳條例有所衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1770.wav",
        "text": "這個時候到底是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1771.wav",
        "text": "新住民委員會比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1772.wav",
        "text": "還是我們陸委會比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1773.wav",
        "text": "這個問題就出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1774.wav",
        "text": "這個法律在行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1775.wav",
        "text": "討論過程之中我們是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1776.wav",
        "text": "讓兩岸條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1777.wav",
        "text": "來處理原陸籍人士"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1778.wav",
        "text": "用港澳條例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1779.wav",
        "text": "來處理原港澳人士"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1780.wav",
        "text": "把陸籍跟"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1781.wav",
        "text": "原港澳籍全部叫作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1782.wav",
        "text": "新住民的話那我們希望這部法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1783.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以把它叫作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1784.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1785.wav",
        "text": "這樣就好了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1786.wav",
        "text": "因為基本法這個概念實在太高了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1787.wav",
        "text": "它會把我們的港澳條例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1788.wav",
        "text": "跟兩岸條例全部變成它的子法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1789.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陸委會的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1790.wav",
        "text": "人事行政總處主計總處"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1791.wav",
        "text": "有沒有類似相關重要的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1792.wav",
        "text": "意見要補充"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1793.wav",
        "text": "發言完畢後我們要休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1794.wav",
        "text": "來協商一下名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1795.wav",
        "text": "張宏陸委員請準備"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1796.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長也謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1797.wav",
        "text": "辛苦努力的大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1798.wav",
        "text": "尤其今天我們很高興"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1799.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨有黃委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1800.wav",
        "text": "可以加入討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1801.wav",
        "text": "我是這樣覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1802.wav",
        "text": "啦其實我們今天大家都不分黨派"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1803.wav",
        "text": "很誠意的在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1804.wav",
        "text": "要為新住民的權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1805.wav",
        "text": "做保護這部法案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1806.wav",
        "text": "我們也真的討論了很多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1807.wav",
        "text": "了有沒有機會可以讓我跟黃委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1808.wav",
        "text": "對話一下不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1809.wav",
        "text": "喔可不可以讓我跟黃委員對話一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1810.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得大家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1811.wav",
        "text": "真的不分黨派都在為新住民權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1812.wav",
        "text": "而努力那修法的過程"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1813.wav",
        "text": "其實就是大家把不同的意見"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1814.wav",
        "text": "來第一如果大家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1815.wav",
        "text": "不同意見可以整合當然是最好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1816.wav",
        "text": "的版本當中有設想不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1817.wav",
        "text": "之處經過聽到別人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1818.wav",
        "text": "的版本意見以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1819.wav",
        "text": "願意修正我覺得這也不是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1820.wav",
        "text": "壞事不要說別的我自己"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1821.wav",
        "text": "的版本就是提基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1822.wav",
        "text": "然後我現在已經接受成為權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1823.wav",
        "text": "保障法了啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1824.wav",
        "text": "所以改變並不是壞事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1825.wav",
        "text": "而是我出於對新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1826.wav",
        "text": "權益保障的初衷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1827.wav",
        "text": "但整盤的法律看過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1828.wav",
        "text": "我發現繼續堅持基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1829.wav",
        "text": "會有這樣的狀況所以我"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1830.wav",
        "text": "往這個方向前進這才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1831.wav",
        "text": "叫作協商這才叫做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1832.wav",
        "text": "嘛好所以我用我自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1833.wav",
        "text": "更改做例子再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1834.wav",
        "text": "給大家做參考\n剛剛牛煦庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1835.wav",
        "text": "庭委員有說我們在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1836.wav",
        "text": "的過程中是用基本法的架構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1837.wav",
        "text": "去做討論恕我不能同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1838.wav",
        "text": "這一點大家如果看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1839.wav",
        "text": "這份資料的話其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1840.wav",
        "text": "在第5頁的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1841.wav",
        "text": "大家可以看到有我的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1842.wav",
        "text": "是蘇巧慧等26人的第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1843.wav",
        "text": "我當時既然是叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1844.wav",
        "text": "基本法所以我的第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1845.wav",
        "text": "寫的是政府應尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1846.wav",
        "text": "新住民之語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1847.wav",
        "text": "文化藝術及價值觀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1848.wav",
        "text": "這種就是標準基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1849.wav",
        "text": "的寫法可是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1850.wav",
        "text": "我們現在委員會通過的已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1851.wav",
        "text": "是什麼了是大家各黨派都通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1852.wav",
        "text": "已經是委員會通過的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1853.wav",
        "text": "大家可以看一下在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1854.wav",
        "text": "我們通過的版本包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1855.wav",
        "text": "第十一條之1第十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1856.wav",
        "text": "嘛然後行政院的版本當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1857.wav",
        "text": "我們提出來的是第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1858.wav",
        "text": "我說錯了第6頁裡面的第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1859.wav",
        "text": "第十一條第十二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1860.wav",
        "text": "來看好了這個都已經在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1861.wav",
        "text": "審查會修正通過了我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1862.wav",
        "text": "上面寫的是什麼上面寫的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1863.wav",
        "text": "適應輔導醫療生育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1864.wav",
        "text": "保健等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1865.wav",
        "text": "家庭政府應提供家庭婚姻及育兒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1866.wav",
        "text": "等諮詢服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1867.wav",
        "text": "並於直轄市縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1868.wav",
        "text": "設新住民家庭服務中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1869.wav",
        "text": "都寫到這麼具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1870.wav",
        "text": "是作用法呢我們的討論是朝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1871.wav",
        "text": "作用法在討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1872.wav",
        "text": "在前進了今天怎麼會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1873.wav",
        "text": "說我們當初是朝基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1874.wav",
        "text": "都被大家說不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1875.wav",
        "text": "不是不要這樣我們要具體一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1876.wav",
        "text": "\n所以今天綜整整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1877.wav",
        "text": "中華民國法律體系我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1878.wav",
        "text": "國情與中國之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1879.wav",
        "text": "就是套一句各位委員所說的有必要糾結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1880.wav",
        "text": "在條文的名稱名稱這麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1881.wav",
        "text": "重要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1882.wav",
        "text": "對我們認為重要我們也提出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1883.wav",
        "text": "堅持基本法的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1884.wav",
        "text": "是什麼就只是說因為我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1885.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要叫基本法我覺得這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1886.wav",
        "text": "不是一個很理想的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1887.wav",
        "text": "啦所以在最後再做一次補充請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1888.wav",
        "text": "參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1889.wav",
        "text": "發言完我們就必須要休息來協商一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1890.wav",
        "text": "我知道等一下要休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1891.wav",
        "text": "要處理名稱可是大家講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1892.wav",
        "text": "也有很多保留的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1893.wav",
        "text": "剛剛如果第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1894.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨也不堅持那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1895.wav",
        "text": "我們就先處理嘛先尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1896.wav",
        "text": "我們內政委員會大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1897.wav",
        "text": "我們就先把它處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1898.wav",
        "text": "不然永遠都沒有進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1899.wav",
        "text": "各位委員各位黨團幹部我們休息一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1900.wav",
        "text": "行政官員也可以出去伸伸懶腰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1901.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1902.wav",
        "text": "要請各位黨團幹部還有行政部門的官員閣員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1903.wav",
        "text": "一起來聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1904.wav",
        "text": "就是這個名稱的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1905.wav",
        "text": "大家現在只濃縮在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1906.wav",
        "text": "名稱的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1907.wav",
        "text": "柯總召請說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1908.wav",
        "text": "簡短扼要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1909.wav",
        "text": "嘛新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1910.wav",
        "text": "剛剛都有談過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1911.wav",
        "text": "嘛傅總召也沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1912.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團總召剛才關切新住民權益的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1913.wav",
        "text": "傅總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1914.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1915.wav",
        "text": "麥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1916.wav",
        "text": "商量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1917.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得這個案子能夠在立法院通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1918.wav",
        "text": "不管是民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1919.wav",
        "text": "民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1920.wav",
        "text": "大家攜手過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1921.wav",
        "text": "其實名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1922.wav",
        "text": "在我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1923.wav",
        "text": "大家協商好就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1924.wav",
        "text": "了重點是要實質照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1925.wav",
        "text": "這些新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1926.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我可能比較重視的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1927.wav",
        "text": "第二塊第三塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1928.wav",
        "text": "第二塊就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1929.wav",
        "text": "要成立什麼樣的機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1930.wav",
        "text": "到底是二級機關還是三級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1931.wav",
        "text": "如果是二級機關的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1932.wav",
        "text": "整個行政院組織改造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1933.wav",
        "text": "可能全部要做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1934.wav",
        "text": "移民署下面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1935.wav",
        "text": "對新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1936.wav",
        "text": "不管是有幫忙也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1937.wav",
        "text": "還是相對單位也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1938.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是不是成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1939.wav",
        "text": "我是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1940.wav",
        "text": "在內政部下面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1941.wav",
        "text": "但是我們覺得署的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1942.wav",
        "text": "比較適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1943.wav",
        "text": "至少跟移民署是平行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1944.wav",
        "text": "移民署也是平行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1945.wav",
        "text": "都是平行單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1946.wav",
        "text": "都是三級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1947.wav",
        "text": "實施新住民照顧的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1948.wav",
        "text": "這是一個招牌在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1949.wav",
        "text": "大家看得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1950.wav",
        "text": "這個東西可能很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1951.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1952.wav",
        "text": "劉世芳劉部長也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1953.wav",
        "text": "司的話他現成就可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1954.wav",
        "text": "如果是署的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1955.wav",
        "text": "還要送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1956.wav",
        "text": "那我們這邊當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1957.wav",
        "text": "關於民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1958.wav",
        "text": "麥委員對這個區塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1959.wav",
        "text": "我希望待會兒你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1960.wav",
        "text": "們也表達一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1961.wav",
        "text": "我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1962.wav",
        "text": "暫時授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1963.wav",
        "text": "內政部看怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1964.wav",
        "text": "先讓它在一個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1965.wav",
        "text": "做成一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1966.wav",
        "text": "希望成立署還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1967.wav",
        "text": "我們給你多少時間去慢慢調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1968.wav",
        "text": "把它調整出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1969.wav",
        "text": "因為還是要經過立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1970.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1971.wav",
        "text": "實質的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1972.wav",
        "text": "因為有一個明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1973.wav",
        "text": "內政部下面的一級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1974.wav",
        "text": "我相信它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1975.wav",
        "text": "預算編列立法院都很關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1976.wav",
        "text": "它有實質的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1977.wav",
        "text": "可以照顧這些新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1978.wav",
        "text": "是一個新的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1979.wav",
        "text": "要有足夠的預算來照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1980.wav",
        "text": "那我們原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1981.wav",
        "text": "客委會大概都有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1982.wav",
        "text": "大家可以看到有多少預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1983.wav",
        "text": "實質照顧的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1984.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1985.wav",
        "text": "這大概是我們現在一個初步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1986.wav",
        "text": "照顧新住民我們能夠儘快達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1987.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1988.wav",
        "text": "接下來請台灣民眾黨的黃珊珊副總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1989.wav",
        "text": "召表達意見謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1990.wav",
        "text": "主席我現在想說後面有兩條要怎麼改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1991.wav",
        "text": "可能要花點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1992.wav",
        "text": "當然我們還是希望基本法是一種精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1993.wav",
        "text": "我們還是強調這是精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1994.wav",
        "text": "我們希望有這樣的精神在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1995.wav",
        "text": "但如果在法律上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1996.wav",
        "text": "已經到作用的程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1997.wav",
        "text": "我們也不排除修正成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1998.wav",
        "text": "但是裡面還有幾個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/1999.wav",
        "text": "那我們是不是名稱的部分可以暫緩一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2000.wav",
        "text": "我們先把裡面的東西都搞定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2001.wav",
        "text": "否則我們黨團可能也要再討論一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2002.wav",
        "text": "有關基本法的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2003.wav",
        "text": "或者是基本法的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2004.wav",
        "text": "所以我先把內容做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2005.wav",
        "text": "完整的討論以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2006.wav",
        "text": "再跟內政部協商讓大家都清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2007.wav",
        "text": "這些原來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2008.wav",
        "text": "在委員會裡面的誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2009.wav",
        "text": "現在的狀況是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2010.wav",
        "text": "我把它搞清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2011.wav",
        "text": "然後我們再來處理這個名稱比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2012.wav",
        "text": "保留一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2013.wav",
        "text": "啦對否則我們後面搞不定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2014.wav",
        "text": "這個名稱過了也沒什麼用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2015.wav",
        "text": "我現在要想說這條怎麼改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2016.wav",
        "text": "現在黨團幹部先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2017.wav",
        "text": "等一下各位委員如果有意見再補充發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2018.wav",
        "text": "我們先請黨團幹部表達政黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2019.wav",
        "text": "我們再請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2020.wav",
        "text": "剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2021.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁總召的意見很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2022.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2023.wav",
        "text": "它的名稱是權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2024.wav",
        "text": "他知道成立二級的機關是不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2025.wav",
        "text": "成立三級的是署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2026.wav",
        "text": "他比較prefer是署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2027.wav",
        "text": "那我講說司司和署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2028.wav",
        "text": "都是三級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2029.wav",
        "text": "所以剛才劉世芳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2030.wav",
        "text": "機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2031.wav",
        "text": "那去研究一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2032.wav",
        "text": "我們再來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2033.wav",
        "text": "那怎麼照顧他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2034.wav",
        "text": "這很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2035.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2036.wav",
        "text": "他說先把底下談一談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2037.wav",
        "text": "基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2038.wav",
        "text": "這底下都是權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2039.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可能再回到基本法去呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2040.wav",
        "text": "架構是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2041.wav",
        "text": "的這個要先談清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2042.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2043.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能往下走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2044.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2045.wav",
        "text": "接下來牛煦庭委員舉手發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2046.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其他委員要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2047.wav",
        "text": "大家互相溝通之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2048.wav",
        "text": "大概已經有一點點開始往有共識的方向走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2049.wav",
        "text": "那當然是一件好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2050.wav",
        "text": "我始終顧慮的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2051.wav",
        "text": "因為當初我們修正法條的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2052.wav",
        "text": "那麼這件事情如果真的在名稱上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2053.wav",
        "text": "大家最後要先求有再求好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2054.wav",
        "text": "往這個方向對焦的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2055.wav",
        "text": "我們會提一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2056.wav",
        "text": "要求主管機關至少在這個法順利修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2057.wav",
        "text": "要有非常完善的執行報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2058.wav",
        "text": "如果這個確實因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2059.wav",
        "text": "只有原則性的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2060.wav",
        "text": "而有若干不足的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2061.wav",
        "text": "至少我們修法都非常有正當性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2062.wav",
        "text": "也有足夠的參考依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2063.wav",
        "text": "用這樣的方式來做一個處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2064.wav",
        "text": "現在根據草擬各個黨團的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2065.wav",
        "text": "我嘗試來唸一下這個結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2066.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2067.wav",
        "text": "如果大家認同就認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2068.wav",
        "text": "不認同大家可以再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2069.wav",
        "text": "請民眾黨黨團要特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2070.wav",
        "text": "注意仔細聆聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2071.wav",
        "text": "大致這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2072.wav",
        "text": "子法案名稱照行政院提案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2073.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2074.wav",
        "text": "大家有意見可以表達沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2075.wav",
        "text": "第二點我們請內政部著手研擬相關附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2076.wav",
        "text": "等保留條文處理完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2077.wav",
        "text": "再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2078.wav",
        "text": "內政部現在所擬的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2079.wav",
        "text": "剛剛牛委員甚至提出一年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2080.wav",
        "text": "也許內政部很厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2081.wav",
        "text": "神通廣大說不定三個月就擬定完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2082.wav",
        "text": "也有可能所以我們尊重內政部所擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2083.wav",
        "text": "的現在如果確定法案名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2084.wav",
        "text": "照行政院版本通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2085.wav",
        "text": "我們就可以開始往下面這幾個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2086.wav",
        "text": "開始審議了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2087.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2088.wav",
        "text": "大致上的意思我把它濃縮成這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2089.wav",
        "text": "特別請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2090.wav",
        "text": "請台灣民眾黨黨團表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2091.wav",
        "text": "\n我跟傅總召還有各位委員建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2092.wav",
        "text": "我們現在尊重內政部讓他去草"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2093.wav",
        "text": "擬完一個附帶決議之後我們再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2094.wav",
        "text": "因為後面還有好幾個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2095.wav",
        "text": "我們可以一起討論好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2096.wav",
        "text": "\n那也跟麥玉珍委員講我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2097.wav",
        "text": "都是要照顧新住民這絕對沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2098.wav",
        "text": "只是方法速度幅度預算等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2099.wav",
        "text": "還有名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2100.wav",
        "text": "好不好這一點我想我們想法都是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2101.wav",
        "text": "的\n如果沒有問題我們就進入下面一個條文的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2102.wav",
        "text": "現在名稱就是通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2103.wav",
        "text": "因為我們黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2104.wav",
        "text": "並沒有堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2105.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員也點頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2106.wav",
        "text": "我們現在請內政部擬一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2107.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2108.wav",
        "text": "\n第2條各位委員同仁現在第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2109.wav",
        "text": "有台灣民眾黨黨團及國民黨黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2110.wav",
        "text": "也有羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2111.wav",
        "text": "王美惠委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2112.wav",
        "text": "還有邱鎮軍等提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2113.wav",
        "text": "行政院也有第2條的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2114.wav",
        "text": "我們現在先請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2115.wav",
        "text": "內政部劉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2116.wav",
        "text": "麻煩說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2117.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2118.wav",
        "text": "有關第2條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2119.wav",
        "text": "我們建議是不是可以按照原來我們行政院的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2120.wav",
        "text": "還有下面的本法保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2121.wav",
        "text": "對象及於新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2122.wav",
        "text": "這樣的完整性會比較充實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2123.wav",
        "text": "就是我原來有跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2124.wav",
        "text": "的不管他是永久居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2125.wav",
        "text": "長期居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2126.wav",
        "text": "按照現在的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2127.wav",
        "text": "不管是從移民法兩岸人民關係條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2128.wav",
        "text": "或者是外國人攬才或是留才久用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2129.wav",
        "text": "等等這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2130.wav",
        "text": "甚至包括有一些僑外生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2131.wav",
        "text": "或者是有一些移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2132.wav",
        "text": "在某一定的一個程序上轉換之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2133.wav",
        "text": "也可能變成是新住民可以保障的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2134.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上是還滿大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2135.wav",
        "text": "而且是擴充的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2136.wav",
        "text": "所以希望各位黨團幹部能夠支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2137.wav",
        "text": "謝謝內政部劉部長的報告跟說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2138.wav",
        "text": "接下來請台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2139.wav",
        "text": "說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2140.wav",
        "text": "因為麥玉珍委員在委員會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2141.wav",
        "text": "他有堅持在第2項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2142.wav",
        "text": "就是前項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2143.wav",
        "text": "第1款及第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2144.wav",
        "text": "經許可居留的外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2145.wav",
        "text": "以未兼具我國國籍者為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2146.wav",
        "text": "他擔心影響到我們新住民的子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2147.wav",
        "text": "這個條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2148.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我跟內政部溝通的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2149.wav",
        "text": "他們是說這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2150.wav",
        "text": "因為有很多是外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2151.wav",
        "text": "是我們臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2152.wav",
        "text": "跟臺灣人在國外生的孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2153.wav",
        "text": "可能取得了國外的國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2154.wav",
        "text": "但他也因為屬人關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2155.wav",
        "text": "所以他也取得臺灣的國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2156.wav",
        "text": "只是他沒有在臺灣設戶籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2157.wav",
        "text": "所以他其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2158.wav",
        "text": "嚴格來說是屬於臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2159.wav",
        "text": "新住民之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2160.wav",
        "text": "\n麥玉珍委員擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2161.wav",
        "text": "這會不會牽涉到像麥玉珍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2162.wav",
        "text": "這樣子他嫁來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2163.wav",
        "text": "他先生是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2164.wav",
        "text": "他生了兩個小孩也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2165.wav",
        "text": "拿臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2166.wav",
        "text": "可能會有其他國家的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2167.wav",
        "text": "這樣的新住民子女會不會受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2168.wav",
        "text": "到排除這是我們所concern的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2169.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是請內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2170.wav",
        "text": "再清楚地在協商過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2171.wav",
        "text": "中說明一次你們這一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2172.wav",
        "text": "排除的對象會不會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2173.wav",
        "text": "現有新住民身分的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2174.wav",
        "text": "子女他可能會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2175.wav",
        "text": "具有外國國籍的這些新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2176.wav",
        "text": "子女請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2177.wav",
        "text": "這有幾十萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2178.wav",
        "text": "稍微等一下還有其他委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2179.wav",
        "text": "要發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2180.wav",
        "text": "內政部說要等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2181.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2182.wav",
        "text": "你們跟我說明這是排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2183.wav",
        "text": "兩個父母都是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2184.wav",
        "text": "在國外生的臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2185.wav",
        "text": "的孩子因為他可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2186.wav",
        "text": "取得外國籍在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2187.wav",
        "text": "他被認定是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2188.wav",
        "text": "他具有臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2189.wav",
        "text": "國籍的資格但他可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2190.wav",
        "text": "沒有戶籍或者有戶籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2191.wav",
        "text": "但他都屬於臺灣人所以你們這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2192.wav",
        "text": "排除的是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2193.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員擔心的是像他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2194.wav",
        "text": "小孩他的小孩可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2195.wav",
        "text": "也會取得另外一個國家的國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2196.wav",
        "text": "但他先生是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2197.wav",
        "text": "他是新住民他的小孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2198.wav",
        "text": "是不是也會被這個排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2199.wav",
        "text": "那是不是會有一些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2200.wav",
        "text": "孩子可是在臺灣沒有人帶所以送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2201.wav",
        "text": "回去他的國家以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2202.wav",
        "text": "他就變成不是我們認定的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2203.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2204.wav",
        "text": "等一下院長這裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2205.wav",
        "text": "第2條條文他們有修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2206.wav",
        "text": "可能麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2207.wav",
        "text": "有所誤解他把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2208.wav",
        "text": "大部分他自己理解可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2209.wav",
        "text": "有問題凡是在臺灣生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2210.wav",
        "text": "都臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2211.wav",
        "text": "第2項刪掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2212.wav",
        "text": "我知道你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2213.wav",
        "text": "這項是外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2214.wav",
        "text": "不是我誤解是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2215.wav",
        "text": "清楚今天協商紀錄把它記清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2216.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會排除到這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2217.wav",
        "text": "那我們就讓這條過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2218.wav",
        "text": "說明清楚就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2219.wav",
        "text": "各位委員跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2220.wav",
        "text": "有關有關剛剛委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2221.wav",
        "text": "第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2222.wav",
        "text": "前項第1款及第2款經許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2223.wav",
        "text": "居留之外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2224.wav",
        "text": "以未兼具我國國籍者為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2225.wav",
        "text": "本項的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2226.wav",
        "text": "主要是提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2227.wav",
        "text": "因為外國人如果兼具我國國籍者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2228.wav",
        "text": "包括外國人兼具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2229.wav",
        "text": "居住臺灣地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2230.wav",
        "text": "設有戶籍國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2231.wav",
        "text": "或者是他兼具臺灣地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2232.wav",
        "text": "無戶籍國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2233.wav",
        "text": "不論是哪一種身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2234.wav",
        "text": "都是屬於我國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2235.wav",
        "text": "他享有國民待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2236.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為他不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2237.wav",
        "text": "屬於本法要特別保護的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2238.wav",
        "text": "\n用白話一點講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2239.wav",
        "text": "我國國民所生的子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2240.wav",
        "text": "依照國籍法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2241.wav",
        "text": "均具有我國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2242.wav",
        "text": "所以這些海外國民他的世世代代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2243.wav",
        "text": "都具有我國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2244.wav",
        "text": "他本來就可以依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2245.wav",
        "text": "移民法以無戶籍國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2246.wav",
        "text": "的身分在臺灣居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2247.wav",
        "text": "基於權利義務的衡平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2248.wav",
        "text": "我們認為本法是保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2249.wav",
        "text": "特別的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2250.wav",
        "text": "所以他們不宜納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2251.wav",
        "text": "但是我在問的問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2252.wav",
        "text": "像麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2253.wav",
        "text": "同樣的被排除掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2254.wav",
        "text": "我們的新住民很多有這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2255.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2256.wav",
        "text": "有關委員所垂詢的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2257.wav",
        "text": "所生的子女即取得國人身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2258.wav",
        "text": "他們就是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2259.wav",
        "text": "即便他回到了越南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2260.wav",
        "text": "他還是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2261.wav",
        "text": "所以在本法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2262.wav",
        "text": "所定義的新住民指的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2263.wav",
        "text": "配偶本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2264.wav",
        "text": "我們的新住民沒有包含子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2265.wav",
        "text": "但是為了要保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2266.wav",
        "text": "新住民的子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2267.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在第3項寫說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2268.wav",
        "text": "本法保障對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2269.wav",
        "text": "及於新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2270.wav",
        "text": "所以委員的孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2271.wav",
        "text": "指的是新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2272.wav",
        "text": "這個身分他的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2273.wav",
        "text": "不會在新住民的定義裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2274.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2275.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天希望把這個寫成會議紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2276.wav",
        "text": "就是新住民只有一個人叫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2277.wav",
        "text": "配偶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2278.wav",
        "text": "所以不會因為他有戶籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2279.wav",
        "text": "新住民子女跟國籍無關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2280.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣說嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2281.wav",
        "text": "基本上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2282.wav",
        "text": "新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2283.wav",
        "text": "跟他有沒有雙重國籍無關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2284.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣說嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2285.wav",
        "text": "大聲說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2286.wav",
        "text": "所有的新住民團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2287.wav",
        "text": "跟委員都清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2288.wav",
        "text": "因為他們的身分是新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2289.wav",
        "text": "就新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2290.wav",
        "text": "只有一種人叫做配偶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2291.wav",
        "text": "結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2292.wav",
        "text": "不是不是這次我們擴及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2293.wav",
        "text": "白領"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2294.wav",
        "text": "子女叫做新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2295.wav",
        "text": "再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2296.wav",
        "text": "配偶是屬於新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2297.wav",
        "text": "你們的子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2298.wav",
        "text": "是屬於新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2299.wav",
        "text": "他也受本法保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2300.wav",
        "text": "就是國民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2301.wav",
        "text": "就是剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2302.wav",
        "text": "排除了外國人兼具我國國籍者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2303.wav",
        "text": "只有外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2304.wav",
        "text": "兼具居住臺灣設有戶籍的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2305.wav",
        "text": "以及外國人兼具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2306.wav",
        "text": "臺灣地區無戶籍國民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2307.wav",
        "text": "只有這兩種人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2308.wav",
        "text": "不會是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2309.wav",
        "text": "在海外生的子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2310.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2311.wav",
        "text": "所以新住民子女本身就受保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2312.wav",
        "text": "新住民子女不因他的國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2313.wav",
        "text": "而受到排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2314.wav",
        "text": "兩句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2315.wav",
        "text": "內政部就在立法說明裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2316.wav",
        "text": "把它補進去明確一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2317.wav",
        "text": "好各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2318.wav",
        "text": "第2條我們就照行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2319.wav",
        "text": "所提內政部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2320.wav",
        "text": "但是第5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2321.wav",
        "text": "款未滿三年這四個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2322.wav",
        "text": "要把它劃掉取消掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2323.wav",
        "text": "我們照最新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2324.wav",
        "text": "內政部所送的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2325.wav",
        "text": "報告各位黨團幹部各位委員同仁現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2326.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來處理第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2327.wav",
        "text": "保留條文的第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2328.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2329.wav",
        "text": "剛剛第2條會搭配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2330.wav",
        "text": "增訂第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2331.wav",
        "text": "要不要先處理增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2332.wav",
        "text": "各位委員手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2333.wav",
        "text": "有我們剛發的增訂第十九條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2334.wav",
        "text": "這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2335.wav",
        "text": "我唸一遍給各位聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2336.wav",
        "text": "──第十九條經許可在臺灣地區定居"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2337.wav",
        "text": "之新住民其權利義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2338.wav",
        "text": "應優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2339.wav",
        "text": "有戶籍國民之規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2340.wav",
        "text": "這個在各位的手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2341.wav",
        "text": "各位如果沒有意見我們就照內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2342.wav",
        "text": "請張智倫委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2343.wav",
        "text": "感謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2344.wav",
        "text": "剛剛第一次發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2345.wav",
        "text": "我就對這第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2346.wav",
        "text": "都很支持新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2347.wav",
        "text": "可是第十九條的部分一定要明確定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2348.wav",
        "text": "刪除第二條第四款就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2349.wav",
        "text": "拿到身分證三年以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2350.wav",
        "text": "就不算新住民所以把這個刪掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2351.wav",
        "text": "現在增訂第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2352.wav",
        "text": "它的內容是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2353.wav",
        "text": "已在臺灣定居之新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2354.wav",
        "text": "定居剛剛大家有討論到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2355.wav",
        "text": "定居就是拿到身分證以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2356.wav",
        "text": "其權利義務應優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2357.wav",
        "text": "有戶籍國民之規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2358.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣子我單純看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2359.wav",
        "text": "這個法條的解釋好像是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2360.wav",
        "text": "拿到身分證以後他就不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2361.wav",
        "text": "適用新住民的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2362.wav",
        "text": "而是要先適用我國國民的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2363.wav",
        "text": "這樣子是不是會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2364.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法保障到他們的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2365.wav",
        "text": "變成拿到身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2366.wav",
        "text": "優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2367.wav",
        "text": "有戶籍就是本國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2368.wav",
        "text": "之規定所以這邊我一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2369.wav",
        "text": "拜託因為我現在解讀法條是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2370.wav",
        "text": "這個內容啦是這樣的感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2371.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張委員剛剛我們有跟很多我們的幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2372.wav",
        "text": "提到其實是不會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2373.wav",
        "text": "相關的細節我是不是再請我們組長講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2374.wav",
        "text": "拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2375.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2376.wav",
        "text": "有關本條之所以要在這裡明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2377.wav",
        "text": "是因為基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2378.wav",
        "text": "法律上的權利義務應該要明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2379.wav",
        "text": "我們今天透過這部專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2380.wav",
        "text": "創設了一個新住民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2381.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也希望在法律上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2382.wav",
        "text": "他們的權利義務要明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2383.wav",
        "text": "那因為他們已經取得國人身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2384.wav",
        "text": "所以這裡指的定居是指取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2385.wav",
        "text": "身分證的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2386.wav",
        "text": "也就是說取得身分證的這些新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2387.wav",
        "text": "他的權利義務應優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2388.wav",
        "text": "有戶籍國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2389.wav",
        "text": "我們在立法理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2390.wav",
        "text": "我們應該是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2391.wav",
        "text": "我想委員擔心的應該是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2392.wav",
        "text": "新住民在成為新住民之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2393.wav",
        "text": "他可能享有許多的社會福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2394.wav",
        "text": "還有一些扶助措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2395.wav",
        "text": "而他擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2396.wav",
        "text": "如果寫了這一條是不是那些都沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2397.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2398.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛委員有這樣的擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2399.wav",
        "text": "但實務上我們在第一現場上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2400.wav",
        "text": "對於已經取得身分跟未取得身分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2401.wav",
        "text": "只要是新住民有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2402.wav",
        "text": "我們都會提供相關的福利措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2403.wav",
        "text": "包括所有的生活適應課程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2404.wav",
        "text": "多元文化活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2405.wav",
        "text": "或者所有他們需要的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2406.wav",
        "text": "資訊等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2407.wav",
        "text": "都有在做提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2408.wav",
        "text": "所以為了要讓委員放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2409.wav",
        "text": "有關立法理由應該要明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2410.wav",
        "text": "我這邊就宣讀一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2411.wav",
        "text": "我們對於立法理由怎麼樣去把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2412.wav",
        "text": "做修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2413.wav",
        "text": "新住民成為國人後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2414.wav",
        "text": "除應適用我國既有法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2415.wav",
        "text": "享有相同之權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2416.wav",
        "text": "與負擔義務外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2417.wav",
        "text": "政府仍應對其新住民提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2418.wav",
        "text": "所需之生活扶助與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2419.wav",
        "text": "服務措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2420.wav",
        "text": "我再講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2421.wav",
        "text": "請黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2422.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛擔心的是這個叫做權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2423.wav",
        "text": "義務適用有國籍的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2424.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可以括弧舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2425.wav",
        "text": "比如應當兵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2426.wav",
        "text": "或者是國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2427.wav",
        "text": "義務教育權利跟義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2428.wav",
        "text": "另外你剛剛講的生活保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2429.wav",
        "text": "那叫做權益措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2430.wav",
        "text": "就是新住民生活保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2431.wav",
        "text": "的這些措施並不受這個影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2432.wav",
        "text": "他還是可以得到你剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2433.wav",
        "text": "這些措施的福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2434.wav",
        "text": "我想這個把它再釐清楚一點比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2435.wav",
        "text": "因為權利義務聽起來就好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2436.wav",
        "text": "只是一般國民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2437.wav",
        "text": "而他們在乎的是他在一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2438.wav",
        "text": "生活上的適應可能還是需要照顧的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2439.wav",
        "text": "是不是在立法理由再具體化一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2440.wav",
        "text": "可以剛剛黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2441.wav",
        "text": "所講的我們會在最後的兩句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2442.wav",
        "text": "放進去裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2443.wav",
        "text": "謝謝麥玉珍委員你需要補充嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2444.wav",
        "text": "還是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2445.wav",
        "text": "對不起我們先請牛委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2446.wav",
        "text": "因為他已經舉兩次手了好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2447.wav",
        "text": "請牛煦庭委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2448.wav",
        "text": "法條來講因為大家的方向性有多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2449.wav",
        "text": "有涉及權益保障但並沒有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2450.wav",
        "text": "具體的一些數額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2451.wav",
        "text": "隨便舉幾個例子好了比如剛剛有什麼就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2452.wav",
        "text": "輔導措施或者是一些生活扶助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2453.wav",
        "text": "萬一到最後有詳細的政策出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2454.wav",
        "text": "他的就業扶助措施或者是生活扶助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2455.wav",
        "text": "他其實是優於我們的國民待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2456.wav",
        "text": "那會不會這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2457.wav",
        "text": "變得他拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2458.wav",
        "text": "之後他的權益反而是下降的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2459.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得這件事情雖然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2460.wav",
        "text": "目前在實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2461.wav",
        "text": "我當然願意從良善的角度去相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2462.wav",
        "text": "內政部執行的時候都會是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2463.wav",
        "text": "是想辦法去從優處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2464.wav",
        "text": "可是這件事情一旦入了法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2465.wav",
        "text": "會不會反而讓大家會覺得既然你已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2466.wav",
        "text": "拿了身分證我就乾脆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2467.wav",
        "text": "基層的時候鞭長莫及他沒有辦法好好處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2468.wav",
        "text": "會不會變成他能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2469.wav",
        "text": "得到的權益跟福利的保障措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2470.wav",
        "text": "反而是限縮的我覺得還是擔心這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2471.wav",
        "text": "是不是有機會大家集思廣益一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2472.wav",
        "text": "在法條上權利的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2473.wav",
        "text": "應從優適用這樣會不會比較妥善一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2474.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是大家再討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2475.wav",
        "text": "謝謝牛委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2476.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得不必增"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2477.wav",
        "text": "增訂這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2478.wav",
        "text": "啦本來就是我們要去定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2479.wav",
        "text": "新住民是有需要的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2480.wav",
        "text": "才會去應用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2481.wav",
        "text": "嘛之前要訂定的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2482.wav",
        "text": "為了要把那個三年拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2483.wav",
        "text": "或者訂定這個新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2484.wav",
        "text": "我們新住民訂定在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2485.wav",
        "text": "一輩子都是變成新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2486.wav",
        "text": "希望我們不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2487.wav",
        "text": "把自己當新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2488.wav",
        "text": "又怕別人臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2489.wav",
        "text": "來當新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2490.wav",
        "text": "現在又在這裡限制說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2491.wav",
        "text": "我是臺灣國民了我有身分證了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2492.wav",
        "text": "我可以選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2493.wav",
        "text": "我要用新住民這邊的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2494.wav",
        "text": "還是我去用臺灣的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2495.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就可以去選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2496.wav",
        "text": "了嘛因為我拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2497.wav",
        "text": "第一天我就是中華民國人民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2498.wav",
        "text": "對啊你幹嘛還要去限定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2499.wav",
        "text": "你是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2500.wav",
        "text": "但是你有需要這邊的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2501.wav",
        "text": "如語言或其他考試什麼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2502.wav",
        "text": "你才要去應用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2503.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2504.wav",
        "text": "我不會貼著一個新住民到處跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2505.wav",
        "text": "不會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2506.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我們要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2507.wav",
        "text": "我們訂定這個法是要照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2508.wav",
        "text": "有需要的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2509.wav",
        "text": "不是多少人都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2510.wav",
        "text": "用身分別來這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2511.wav",
        "text": "享受這個福利這個照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2512.wav",
        "text": "很多條都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2513.wav",
        "text": "有規定有機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2514.wav",
        "text": "有需要才能去應用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2515.wav",
        "text": "不是因為我是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2516.wav",
        "text": "我就是要用這一條了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2517.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣子的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2518.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2519.wav",
        "text": "大家可以再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2520.wav",
        "text": "但是我們不必要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2521.wav",
        "text": "增訂這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2522.wav",
        "text": "因為本來前面就是讓他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2523.wav",
        "text": "適應後變成臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2524.wav",
        "text": "適應後他成為臺灣人了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2525.wav",
        "text": "他要應用這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2526.wav",
        "text": "或者沒有應用他有權利決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2527.wav",
        "text": "嘛對不對我的意思是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2528.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2529.wav",
        "text": "我們請羅美玲委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2530.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長我支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2531.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2532.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得這第十九條其實真的不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2533.wav",
        "text": "增訂我真的覺得是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2534.wav",
        "text": "畫蛇添足根本就不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2535.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分是不是可以請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2536.wav",
        "text": "行政單位拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2537.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2538.wav",
        "text": "跟內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2539.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2540.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在法律的體例上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2541.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請法務部幫我們解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2542.wav",
        "text": "\n就是說我們大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2543.wav",
        "text": "你說生活扶助其他的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2544.wav",
        "text": "服務然後都是要放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2545.wav",
        "text": "但是如果你把它拿掉以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2546.wav",
        "text": "的困擾可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2547.wav",
        "text": "有代表過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2548.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2549.wav",
        "text": "院長部長我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2550.wav",
        "text": "如果這一條在原來版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2551.wav",
        "text": "都沒有的話就真的沒必要增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2552.wav",
        "text": "反正意思一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2553.wav",
        "text": "他拿了身分證他本來就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2554.wav",
        "text": "服臺灣的兵役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2555.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣念書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2556.wav",
        "text": "\n我覺得如果說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2557.wav",
        "text": "優先或不優先也沒有什麼優先或不優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2558.wav",
        "text": "他已經是國民他就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2559.wav",
        "text": "服從中華民國的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2560.wav",
        "text": "這條沒有增訂的必要也沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2561.wav",
        "text": "第二個你說他的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2562.wav",
        "text": "沒有受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2563.wav",
        "text": "那就不用增訂啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2564.wav",
        "text": "就把它拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2565.wav",
        "text": "啦這條我具體建議拿掉比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2566.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝三位委員都表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2567.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠取消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2568.wav",
        "text": "第十九條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2569.wav",
        "text": "請問法務部的廖參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2570.wav",
        "text": "在現場嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2571.wav",
        "text": "請表達意見謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2572.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2573.wav",
        "text": "已經有說明清楚了就是增"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2574.wav",
        "text": "訂第十九條的規範價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2575.wav",
        "text": "是在避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2576.wav",
        "text": "資源重疊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2577.wav",
        "text": "本國國民的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2578.wav",
        "text": "利同時又享有新住民權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2579.wav",
        "text": "利他在政策上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2580.wav",
        "text": "優先使用國民的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2581.wav",
        "text": "不要兩邊的資源有重疊的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2582.wav",
        "text": "至於政策上要不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2583.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的抉擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2584.wav",
        "text": "我想就尊重大家的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2585.wav",
        "text": "就是它有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2586.wav",
        "text": "它的規範價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2587.wav",
        "text": "謝謝廖參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2588.wav",
        "text": "羅美玲委員再次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2589.wav",
        "text": "第2條的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2590.wav",
        "text": "是第2條吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2591.wav",
        "text": "那個拿掉那可以放在第2條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2592.wav",
        "text": "立法說明裡面嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2593.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來請柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2594.wav",
        "text": "這個大家想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2595.wav",
        "text": "在想像的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2596.wav",
        "text": "他是中華民國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2597.wav",
        "text": "他曾經是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2598.wav",
        "text": "他想要雙重身分雙重資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2599.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的一定是在講這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2600.wav",
        "text": "有的是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2601.wav",
        "text": "他是中華民國國民所以他想要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2602.wav",
        "text": "的權利比他還在新住民時的還好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2603.wav",
        "text": "比如中低收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2604.wav",
        "text": "他是中華民國國民當然有中低收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2605.wav",
        "text": "新住民沒有中低收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2606.wav",
        "text": "所以你要優先用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2607.wav",
        "text": "優惠是好的先撿起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2608.wav",
        "text": "那是普遍照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2609.wav",
        "text": "包括教育文化等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2610.wav",
        "text": "那個是可以永續地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2611.wav",
        "text": "一起去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2612.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2613.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2614.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我想大家都是一樣希望能夠照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2615.wav",
        "text": "他們所以我的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2616.wav",
        "text": "因為他已經是國民不用再優了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2617.wav",
        "text": "他本來就是國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2618.wav",
        "text": "他就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2619.wav",
        "text": "他本來就有優了不用再優了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2620.wav",
        "text": "所以這一條我覺得有點多此一舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2621.wav",
        "text": "第二個剛剛講的你既然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2622.wav",
        "text": "不會拿掉他既有的權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2623.wav",
        "text": "和生活照顧扶助這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2624.wav",
        "text": "都不會的話這一條就拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2625.wav",
        "text": "大家也不用爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2626.wav",
        "text": "國民的權利義務你就已經拿到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2627.wav",
        "text": "不用再優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2628.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得沒有必要好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2629.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2630.wav",
        "text": "我們不要去想像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2631.wav",
        "text": "拿兩種資源那是不可能的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2632.wav",
        "text": "大家要想清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2633.wav",
        "text": "好柯總召謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2634.wav",
        "text": "\n我們下面請蘇巧慧委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2635.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2636.wav",
        "text": "其實它的原意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2637.wav",
        "text": "應該是在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2638.wav",
        "text": "當我們今天大家一起努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2639.wav",
        "text": "創設出了這一部專法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2640.wav",
        "text": "它就變成是一部特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2641.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2642.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2643.wav",
        "text": "跑出來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2644.wav",
        "text": "我們就優先適用這部特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2645.wav",
        "text": "我們這部法要保障的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2646.wav",
        "text": "從全世界各國來的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2647.wav",
        "text": "成為了我們國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2648.wav",
        "text": "新住民之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2649.wav",
        "text": "我們要陪伴他鼓勵他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2650.wav",
        "text": "協助他度過這段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2651.wav",
        "text": "過渡期之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2652.wav",
        "text": "然後變成了國民是在保障這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2653.wav",
        "text": "所以他終有一天會變成國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2654.wav",
        "text": "他成為國民之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2655.wav",
        "text": "當然就適用我國的權利義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2656.wav",
        "text": "國民的狀況了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2657.wav",
        "text": "在這個狀況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2658.wav",
        "text": "我相信當時寫了第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2659.wav",
        "text": "是為了要把這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2660.wav",
        "text": "說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2661.wav",
        "text": "就是當這個身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2662.wav",
        "text": "過渡完成之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2663.wav",
        "text": "這個人就會變成是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2664.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2665.wav",
        "text": "當然就是要優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2666.wav",
        "text": "中華民國的權利義務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2667.wav",
        "text": "我想這一條寫的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2668.wav",
        "text": "只是在註明這個部分吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2669.wav",
        "text": "\n如果我的理解沒有錯誤的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2670.wav",
        "text": "那麼我會覺得剛剛出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2671.wav",
        "text": "說明的不知道是哪一個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2672.wav",
        "text": "非常地不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2673.wav",
        "text": "這才叫做多此一舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2674.wav",
        "text": "因為只是把上面的文字照唸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2675.wav",
        "text": "我自己看就懂了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2676.wav",
        "text": "我也能夠理解是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2677.wav",
        "text": "所以我會建議是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2678.wav",
        "text": "這會是一個什麼樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2679.wav",
        "text": "因為不會有任何這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2680.wav",
        "text": "雙重資源浪費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2681.wav",
        "text": "規定的就是新住民過渡的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2682.wav",
        "text": "他已經變成國民了就是國民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2683.wav",
        "text": "大家也就是照正常法他就脫離了這部法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2684.wav",
        "text": "這本來就是這樣規定的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2685.wav",
        "text": "好那大家都同意不用再多此一舉規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2686.wav",
        "text": "這一條其實可以把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2687.wav",
        "text": "變成是在第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2688.wav",
        "text": "立法說明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2689.wav",
        "text": "最後一項變成是立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2690.wav",
        "text": "也可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2691.wav",
        "text": "也可以放在這裡就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2692.wav",
        "text": "不一定要成為一個新設的第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2693.wav",
        "text": "這樣我也可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2694.wav",
        "text": "我是認為政府行政部門在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2695.wav",
        "text": "在解釋在說明自己的理由的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2696.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該是像我這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2697.wav",
        "text": "這種說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2698.wav",
        "text": "與會的委員會不會比較聽得懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2699.wav",
        "text": "剛才那個單位是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2700.wav",
        "text": "法務部的廖參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2701.wav",
        "text": "他講的也是沒有錯啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2702.wav",
        "text": "請問柯建銘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2703.wav",
        "text": "總召要發言是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2704.wav",
        "text": "沒有他講的也沒有錯啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2705.wav",
        "text": "還是女的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2706.wav",
        "text": "廖參事講得非常地好我補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2707.wav",
        "text": "\n好接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2708.wav",
        "text": "各位委員同仁還有沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2709.wav",
        "text": "其他的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2710.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有要加我們就放在第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2711.wav",
        "text": "的立法說明裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2712.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2713.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2714.wav",
        "text": "內政部所增訂的第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2715.wav",
        "text": "說希望併案討論我們就不予採納"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2716.wav",
        "text": "\n好現在我們繼續往第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2717.wav",
        "text": "報告院長您可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2718.wav",
        "text": "裁示一下就是第2條裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2719.wav",
        "text": "是不是按照各位委員所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2720.wav",
        "text": "就是把我們剛剛所主張的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2721.wav",
        "text": "就是一段話放在第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2722.wav",
        "text": "的立法說明裡面把它明確化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2723.wav",
        "text": "那我們就瞭解我們當然是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2724.wav",
        "text": "我們就把剛才第十九條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2725.wav",
        "text": "的部分放在第二條條文的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2726.wav",
        "text": "說明裡面我們同意好不好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2727.wav",
        "text": "現在第3條謝謝請繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2728.wav",
        "text": "第3條的主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2729.wav",
        "text": "原來如果是按照行政院所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2730.wav",
        "text": "版本的話主管機關是在內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2731.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2732.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部這一條應該沒有問題啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2733.wav",
        "text": "第3條沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2734.wav",
        "text": "我們接著往第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2735.wav",
        "text": "\n第4條我們還是請內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2736.wav",
        "text": "來幫忙先說明一下謝謝內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2737.wav",
        "text": "這也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2738.wav",
        "text": "就是專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2739.wav",
        "text": "還是我們剛剛所提的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2740.wav",
        "text": "就是它這個專責單位未來到底是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2741.wav",
        "text": "司還是署的話我們等一下還是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2742.wav",
        "text": "再繼續討論以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2743.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2744.wav",
        "text": "第4條沒有意見吧因為內政部現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2745.wav",
        "text": "在研究我們就附帶決議好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2746.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2747.wav",
        "text": "條請內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2748.wav",
        "text": "因為可能有的人會覺得我們未來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2749.wav",
        "text": "主管機關如果是內政部的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2750.wav",
        "text": "是不是沒有辦法跨部會再處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2751.wav",
        "text": "義務的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2752.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是一樣行政院一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2753.wav",
        "text": "召開一個新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2754.wav",
        "text": "事務協調會也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2755.wav",
        "text": "它這個位階也是納在一個諮詢性的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2756.wav",
        "text": "但是在行政院的位階以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2757.wav",
        "text": "請牛委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2758.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請內政部說明一下因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2759.wav",
        "text": "就我瞭解現在就有新住民事務協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2760.wav",
        "text": "你們有定期召開嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2761.wav",
        "text": "大概什麼時候一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2762.wav",
        "text": "因為這件事情當然不見得要寫在法條裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2763.wav",
        "text": "我們也許做附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2764.wav",
        "text": "讓這個東西的機制完整一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2765.wav",
        "text": "定期召開等等讓它更清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2766.wav",
        "text": "讓這個所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2767.wav",
        "text": "新住民事務協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2768.wav",
        "text": "可以發揮它的功能是不是請內政部說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2769.wav",
        "text": "它原來是一個設置要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2770.wav",
        "text": "它是一個行政規範而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2771.wav",
        "text": "開會的頻率是半年一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2772.wav",
        "text": "但是你把它納進去以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2773.wav",
        "text": "未來我們還有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2774.wav",
        "text": "的我想在頻率或是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2775.wav",
        "text": "擴大的適用上面一定會加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2776.wav",
        "text": "請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2777.wav",
        "text": "將來有專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2778.wav",
        "text": "協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2779.wav",
        "text": "謝謝總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2780.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我有跟大家報告我們的主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2781.wav",
        "text": "是內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2782.wav",
        "text": "但是未來有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2783.wav",
        "text": "對譬如我們可能要跨部會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2784.wav",
        "text": "譬如跟陸委會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2785.wav",
        "text": "要跟勞動部或是衛福部協商的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2786.wav",
        "text": "到新住民的協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2787.wav",
        "text": "它有一個比較綜合性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2788.wav",
        "text": "我們比較好執行以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2789.wav",
        "text": "那層級呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2790.wav",
        "text": "層級在行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2791.wav",
        "text": "行政院為研議協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2792.wav",
        "text": "及推動本法相關事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2793.wav",
        "text": "應召開新住民事務協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2794.wav",
        "text": "抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2795.wav",
        "text": "院長這一條的部分是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2796.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是在應後面加兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2797.wav",
        "text": "定期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2798.wav",
        "text": "應定期召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2799.wav",
        "text": "新住民事務協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2800.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這麼講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2801.wav",
        "text": "是因在召開的召前面加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2802.wav",
        "text": "對應定期召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2803.wav",
        "text": "因為如果你這樣寫的話好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2804.wav",
        "text": "應召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2805.wav",
        "text": "那就召開一次之後這一條就就沒用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2806.wav",
        "text": "我還是一樣我們今天就是要展現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2807.wav",
        "text": "照顧跟關懷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2808.wav",
        "text": "我也肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2809.wav",
        "text": "行政院的版本提出來的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2810.wav",
        "text": "已經主動說要召開我們就是應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2811.wav",
        "text": "定期召開好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2812.wav",
        "text": "的就是在第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2813.wav",
        "text": "應召開的前面加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2814.wav",
        "text": "兩個字定期召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2815.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團其他黨團有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2816.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話我們就照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2817.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2818.wav",
        "text": "好不好好照朝野協商條文通過謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2819.wav",
        "text": "現在有台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2820.wav",
        "text": "最新提出來的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2821.wav",
        "text": "第9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2822.wav",
        "text": "已經分發到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2823.wav",
        "text": "各位委員的手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2824.wav",
        "text": "第9條政府應於國家考試設立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2825.wav",
        "text": "新住民事務語言等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2826.wav",
        "text": "相關類科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2827.wav",
        "text": "以因應新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2828.wav",
        "text": "公務之需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2829.wav",
        "text": "我們請考選部劉常次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2830.wav",
        "text": "考選部在此就第9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2831.wav",
        "text": "表達部裡的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2832.wav",
        "text": "劉次長你可能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2833.wav",
        "text": "木柵上班太遠了我們都聽不見你的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2834.wav",
        "text": "你大聲一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2835.wav",
        "text": "是第一個本部充分瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2836.wav",
        "text": "提案委員對新住民事務語言的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2837.wav",
        "text": "但是我們要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2838.wav",
        "text": "類科的設置跟應試科目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2839.wav",
        "text": "是不同層次的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2840.wav",
        "text": "以高考三級來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2841.wav",
        "text": "每一個類科底下原則會設四個專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2842.wav",
        "text": "科目用來評量它所需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2843.wav",
        "text": "核心職能而語言能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2844.wav",
        "text": "應該是屬於核心職能中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2845.wav",
        "text": "的一項所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2846.wav",
        "text": "舉個例子以僑務行政這個類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2847.wav",
        "text": "科來講它的應試科目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2848.wav",
        "text": "就有列考一個外國文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2849.wav",
        "text": "中間是可以選試英日語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2850.wav",
        "text": "泰文越南文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2851.wav",
        "text": "印尼文緬甸文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2852.wav",
        "text": "等不同的語言另外還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2853.wav",
        "text": "針對它職務的需求設置了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2854.wav",
        "text": "行政法僑務行政國際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2855.wav",
        "text": "關係三個科目合計四個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2856.wav",
        "text": "科目所以如果用人機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2857.wav",
        "text": "因為業務需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2858.wav",
        "text": "有透過新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2859.wav",
        "text": "事務行政類科來進用特定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2860.wav",
        "text": "語文人才的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2861.wav",
        "text": "我們建議可以在這個類科底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2862.wav",
        "text": "採選試科目的方式來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2863.wav",
        "text": "納入不同的新住民語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2864.wav",
        "text": "達到它的任用需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2865.wav",
        "text": "所以總結來說我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2866.wav",
        "text": "觀察這個條文認為行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2867.wav",
        "text": "版本的條文已經可以在符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2868.wav",
        "text": "現在的考選跟人事制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2869.wav",
        "text": "底下取才建議還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2870.wav",
        "text": "依照行政院版本來通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2871.wav",
        "text": "敬請委員支持謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2872.wav",
        "text": "清楚的說明現在我們請提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2873.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2874.wav",
        "text": "第9條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2875.wav",
        "text": "的考試考試院有來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2876.wav",
        "text": "就有在裡面了所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2877.wav",
        "text": "我們不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2878.wav",
        "text": "修正動議我們不採納"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2879.wav",
        "text": "\n報告各位黨團幹部我們所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2880.wav",
        "text": "保留條文都已經討論完畢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2881.wav",
        "text": "再請大家稍微"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2882.wav",
        "text": "忍耐一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2883.wav",
        "text": "內政部的部分還正在草擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2884.wav",
        "text": "目前手上有三個還有一個內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2885.wav",
        "text": "所提附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2886.wav",
        "text": "十二年國民基本課程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2887.wav",
        "text": "新住民語文課程老師請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2888.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2889.wav",
        "text": "說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2890.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2891.wav",
        "text": "有關這個附帶決議我們的意見是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2892.wav",
        "text": "由於目前十二年國民基本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2893.wav",
        "text": "課程的綱要中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2894.wav",
        "text": "所需的中小學新住民語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2895.wav",
        "text": "課程師資採雙軌制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2896.wav",
        "text": "用教學支援的人員為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2897.wav",
        "text": "正式的師資為輔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2898.wav",
        "text": "教學支援工作人員的聘任方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2899.wav",
        "text": "是學校自辦甄選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2900.wav",
        "text": "或聘用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2901.wav",
        "text": "師資聘任聯合甄選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2902.wav",
        "text": "統籌規劃跨校甄選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2903.wav",
        "text": "以聯合聘任教學支援人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2904.wav",
        "text": "再由教育部來協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2905.wav",
        "text": "主從聘事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2906.wav",
        "text": "但是避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2907.wav",
        "text": "標準不一的甄選方式導致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2908.wav",
        "text": "語文課程的師資良莠不齊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2909.wav",
        "text": "請教育部在本法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2910.wav",
        "text": "三個月之內研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2911.wav",
        "text": "由中央主管機關統一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2912.wav",
        "text": "訂定甄選標準的可行性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2913.wav",
        "text": "還有嚴加把關師資專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2914.wav",
        "text": "能力我們希望教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2915.wav",
        "text": "這邊能夠一併來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2916.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2917.wav",
        "text": "麻煩教育部列席的官員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2918.wav",
        "text": "由教育部國教署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2919.wav",
        "text": "協調各縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2920.wav",
        "text": "我們會配合辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2921.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2922.wav",
        "text": "謝謝教育部的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2923.wav",
        "text": "我想就這樣我們掌握時間好不好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2924.wav",
        "text": "教育部已經同意了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2925.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議第一案我們就通過\n"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2926.wav",
        "text": "第二案提案的台灣民眾黨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2927.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2928.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我想新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2929.wav",
        "text": "因為語言的隔閡跟政府"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2930.wav",
        "text": "機關有資訊落差所以各機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2931.wav",
        "text": "政府跟法院要陳述意見的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2932.wav",
        "text": "常常面臨通譯人數不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2933.wav",
        "text": "的問題還有通譯沒有辦法在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2934.wav",
        "text": "專業用語上完整地表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2935.wav",
        "text": "新住民陳述的語意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2936.wav",
        "text": "導致新住民的權益受損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2937.wav",
        "text": "所以希望內政部移民署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2938.wav",
        "text": "在本法通過三個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2939.wav",
        "text": "能夠研擬由中央主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2940.wav",
        "text": "建立各國語言通譯的檢定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2941.wav",
        "text": "以鑑別通譯翻譯的品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2942.wav",
        "text": "確保新住民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2943.wav",
        "text": "不會因為語言差異受到損害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2944.wav",
        "text": "就是希望他們能夠建立相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2945.wav",
        "text": "檢定機制以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2946.wav",
        "text": "請內政部說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2947.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2948.wav",
        "text": "這個部分有討論的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2949.wav",
        "text": "先跟民眾黨解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2950.wav",
        "text": "就好像目前為止我們在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2951.wav",
        "text": "英文檢定的時候也不是由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2952.wav",
        "text": "我們國家的政府或者是日文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2953.wav",
        "text": "檢定一定是日本政府辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2954.wav",
        "text": "或者是美國政府來辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2955.wav",
        "text": "一樣的道理所以我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2956.wav",
        "text": "為了要處理有關新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2957.wav",
        "text": "對臺灣環境上面文化適應的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2958.wav",
        "text": "我們行政院在112年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2959.wav",
        "text": "剛剛通過一個叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2960.wav",
        "text": "通譯制度精進的試辦計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2961.wav",
        "text": "這個試辦計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2962.wav",
        "text": "今年4月1號才上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2963.wav",
        "text": "會議的結論是計畫在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2964.wav",
        "text": "試辦的階段希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2965.wav",
        "text": "能夠試辦兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2966.wav",
        "text": "所以如果這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2967.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議的話可不可以把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2968.wav",
        "text": "改成請內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2969.wav",
        "text": "於本法三讀通過後一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2970.wav",
        "text": "研議檢討通譯制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2971.wav",
        "text": "相關精進作為以確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2972.wav",
        "text": "新住民的權益不會因為語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2973.wav",
        "text": "差異而受到損害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2974.wav",
        "text": "也就是說現在的行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2975.wav",
        "text": "已經有一個精進作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2976.wav",
        "text": "主辦機關這個跟我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2977.wav",
        "text": "就是把由你們來研議建立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2978.wav",
        "text": "制度的這部分拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2979.wav",
        "text": "嘛那你們要怎麼精進"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2980.wav",
        "text": "是剛剛有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2981.wav",
        "text": "就是行政院已經通過這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2982.wav",
        "text": "譬如說協助剛剛來的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2983.wav",
        "text": "他在語言上面怎麼樣很快速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2984.wav",
        "text": "學習臺灣的語言等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2985.wav",
        "text": "這些這個並不是屬於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2986.wav",
        "text": "通譯制度它其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2987.wav",
        "text": "生活適應上的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2988.wav",
        "text": "這樣的精進作為的話會在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2989.wav",
        "text": "各個部會不是只有內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2990.wav",
        "text": "譬如說包括教育部或是包括文化部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2991.wav",
        "text": "文化部的話他們現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2992.wav",
        "text": "語言的學習中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2993.wav",
        "text": "所以有三四個部會都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2994.wav",
        "text": "同樣來推動這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2995.wav",
        "text": "試行兩年從今年4月1號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2996.wav",
        "text": "就是3個月前才剛剛上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2997.wav",
        "text": "所以如果有任何其他的精進作為的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2998.wav",
        "text": "我們願意來檢討改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/2999.wav",
        "text": "但是先讓它試辦看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3000.wav",
        "text": "如果在處理新住民事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3001.wav",
        "text": "尤其是語言的通譯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3002.wav",
        "text": "服務上面有困難的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3003.wav",
        "text": "我們會在精進作為裡面要求行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3004.wav",
        "text": "跟其他的部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3005.wav",
        "text": "一起來做改善謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3006.wav",
        "text": "內政部所提的這個非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3007.wav",
        "text": "剛剛劉部長唸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3008.wav",
        "text": "也寫得非常好就是內政部在本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3009.wav",
        "text": "三讀通過一年之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3010.wav",
        "text": "相關精進作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3011.wav",
        "text": "以確保新住民權益不會因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3012.wav",
        "text": "語言差異而受到損害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3013.wav",
        "text": "\n非常好好不好我們修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3014.wav",
        "text": "\n剛才牛煦庭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3015.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議我現在唸給大家聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3016.wav",
        "text": "大家手上都已經有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3017.wav",
        "text": "就是本法立法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3018.wav",
        "text": "實施一年之後主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3019.wav",
        "text": "應提出新住民權益保障相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3020.wav",
        "text": "措施及設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3021.wav",
        "text": "新住民專責中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3022.wav",
        "text": "三級行政機關之執行報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3023.wav",
        "text": "以落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3024.wav",
        "text": "新住民各項基本權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3025.wav",
        "text": "之保障並利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3026.wav",
        "text": "後續檢討政策或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3027.wav",
        "text": "再修法之參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3028.wav",
        "text": "提案人牛煦庭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3029.wav",
        "text": "以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3030.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員傅崐萁委員張智倫委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3031.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3032.wav",
        "text": "關於這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3033.wav",
        "text": "麻煩再請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3034.wav",
        "text": "內政部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3035.wav",
        "text": "這個有牽涉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3036.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請他來做一下補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3037.wav",
        "text": "人事總處手上有拿到資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3038.wav",
        "text": "跟會上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3039.wav",
        "text": "有關於我們中央行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3040.wav",
        "text": "基本準則裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3041.wav",
        "text": "請保持會場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3042.wav",
        "text": "安靜謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3043.wav",
        "text": "對不起你稍等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3044.wav",
        "text": "因為現在人事總處在報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3045.wav",
        "text": "請聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3046.wav",
        "text": "三級機關的局署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3047.wav",
        "text": "是以70個為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3048.wav",
        "text": "目前70個已經滿了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3049.wav",
        "text": "另外還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3050.wav",
        "text": "組織基準法實施以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3051.wav",
        "text": "不能在作用法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3052.wav",
        "text": "規定機關的型態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3053.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3054.wav",
        "text": "換句話說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3055.wav",
        "text": "司的話就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3056.wav",
        "text": "司是沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3057.wav",
        "text": "所以原來行政院版本是沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3058.wav",
        "text": "好關於人事總處報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3059.wav",
        "text": "的這個非常重要請問各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3060.wav",
        "text": "麥玉珍委員這邊有點意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3061.wav",
        "text": "他可能要再修正一下內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3062.wav",
        "text": "稍等一下好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3063.wav",
        "text": "牛煦庭委員嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3064.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3065.wav",
        "text": "院長抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3066.wav",
        "text": "請提案的牛煦庭委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3067.wav",
        "text": "剛剛是國民黨團這邊提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3068.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議沒有加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3069.wav",
        "text": "三級機關其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3070.wav",
        "text": "這應該是脫鉤的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3071.wav",
        "text": "執行報告這是要讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3072.wav",
        "text": "立法院民意機關能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3073.wav",
        "text": "做參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3074.wav",
        "text": "政機關的部分應該是剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3075.wav",
        "text": "院長在裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3076.wav",
        "text": "的時候對在裁示時的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3077.wav",
        "text": "所以這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3078.wav",
        "text": "必須要由內政部這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3079.wav",
        "text": "提出來給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3080.wav",
        "text": "各黨大家簽名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3081.wav",
        "text": "所以我想這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3082.wav",
        "text": "不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3083.wav",
        "text": "就是未來設專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3084.wav",
        "text": "嘛這是一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3085.wav",
        "text": "我們沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3086.wav",
        "text": "既然內政部要提一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3087.wav",
        "text": "就自己提一個不要再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3088.wav",
        "text": "嫁接在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3089.wav",
        "text": "但是我比較建議就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3090.wav",
        "text": "一年以後你這個只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3091.wav",
        "text": "提出一個檢討報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3092.wav",
        "text": "權益的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3093.wav",
        "text": "後面那個可不可以劃掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3094.wav",
        "text": "好像我們這個法亂搞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3095.wav",
        "text": "好像我們一定要修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3096.wav",
        "text": "我跟總召報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3097.wav",
        "text": "這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3098.wav",
        "text": "會寫出來的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3099.wav",
        "text": "就是因為當初在名稱上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3100.wav",
        "text": "大家有一些意見不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3101.wav",
        "text": "你總要讓我們有說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3102.wav",
        "text": "我們擔心的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3103.wav",
        "text": "現在的法條內容不夠完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3104.wav",
        "text": "對不對但是因為今天還是要有個結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3105.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以在名稱上面我們願意讓點步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3106.wav",
        "text": "相對來講你總要讓我有一個說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3107.wav",
        "text": "如部分民團所質疑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3108.wav",
        "text": "我總要講說我們未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3109.wav",
        "text": "會有一個再精進的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3110.wav",
        "text": "符合先求有再求好的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3111.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼說都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3112.wav",
        "text": "但是剛剛大家才同意都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3113.wav",
        "text": "然後你又留一個火種以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3114.wav",
        "text": "要翻本的樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3115.wav",
        "text": "我都還特別加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3116.wav",
        "text": "檢討政策或者是修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3117.wav",
        "text": "剛立完了以後就要再重新修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3118.wav",
        "text": "這搞什麼鬼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3119.wav",
        "text": "不行不行不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3120.wav",
        "text": "我們只是講參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3121.wav",
        "text": "只是講參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3122.wav",
        "text": "請張宏陸委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3123.wav",
        "text": "我建議我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3124.wav",
        "text": "改成並利後續政策檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3125.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得就改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3126.wav",
        "text": "並利後續政策檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3127.wav",
        "text": "這本來就是立委的權限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3128.wav",
        "text": "好像我們在亂搞一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3129.wav",
        "text": "第一個都已經把檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3130.wav",
        "text": "大家都是立法委員我隨時都可以提出修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3131.wav",
        "text": "修法也不是誰說了算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3132.wav",
        "text": "大家一定是有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3133.wav",
        "text": "再修法的參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3134.wav",
        "text": "這樣也不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3135.wav",
        "text": "我沒有大小聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3136.wav",
        "text": "我的語氣到現在都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3137.wav",
        "text": "只是我覺得想不通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3138.wav",
        "text": "的是立法委員每天都可以提修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3139.wav",
        "text": "如果說這一年執行下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3140.wav",
        "text": "那不就沒問題了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3141.wav",
        "text": "我講一個很誠懇的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3142.wav",
        "text": "我在這裡30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3143.wav",
        "text": "報告總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3144.wav",
        "text": "剛剛敲槌三讀通過的打詐四法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3145.wav",
        "text": "裡面的詐欺犯罪危害防制條例就有這樣的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3146.wav",
        "text": "就是我提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3147.wav",
        "text": "如果要這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3148.wav",
        "text": "打詐1.0"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3149.wav",
        "text": "每次我們每個人大家都支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3150.wav",
        "text": "那時候打詐五法時是不是就支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3151.wav",
        "text": "是不是那時候政府講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3152.wav",
        "text": "說打詐五法通過之後可以阻止不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3153.wav",
        "text": "到一年你們又再有打詐四法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3154.wav",
        "text": "所以修法本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3155.wav",
        "text": "與時俱進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3156.wav",
        "text": "如果真的有需要大家就修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3157.wav",
        "text": "我們今天都很心平氣和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3158.wav",
        "text": "但是在這個過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3159.wav",
        "text": "現在這個時候你突然間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3160.wav",
        "text": "好像大人要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3161.wav",
        "text": "這是馬上就想要翻本沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3162.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3163.wav",
        "text": "不要用自己的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3164.wav",
        "text": "想法就懷疑別人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3165.wav",
        "text": "我們一直強調這是很中性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3166.wav",
        "text": "我們只是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3167.wav",
        "text": "有再修法的參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3168.wav",
        "text": "這怎麼會是自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3169.wav",
        "text": "大家請把麥克風壓掉好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3170.wav",
        "text": "主席來宣布好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3171.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3172.wav",
        "text": "也千萬不要聯想太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3173.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3174.wav",
        "text": "思瑤委員牛煦庭委員原始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3175.wav",
        "text": "就單純化很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3176.wav",
        "text": "就是牛煦庭委員的附帶決議是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3177.wav",
        "text": "本法立法院通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3178.wav",
        "text": "實施一年之後主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3179.wav",
        "text": "應提出新住民權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3180.wav",
        "text": "相關措施之執行報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3181.wav",
        "text": "以落實新住民各項基本權益之保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3182.wav",
        "text": "並利後續檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3183.wav",
        "text": "政策或再修法之參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3184.wav",
        "text": "我想這是非常溫和的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3185.wav",
        "text": "是有積極性的鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3186.wav",
        "text": "也很溫和如果大家沒有異議我們就通過好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3187.wav",
        "text": "不要做價值評斷好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3188.wav",
        "text": "你中立一點好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3189.wav",
        "text": "非常有侵害性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3190.wav",
        "text": "我們柯總召很喜歡獨占中原九大門派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3191.wav",
        "text": "要中立中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3192.wav",
        "text": "我是希望能夠讓事情很順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3193.wav",
        "text": "\n現在我們就等內政部提供最後一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3194.wav",
        "text": "我們準備要發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3195.wav",
        "text": "大家的晚餐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3196.wav",
        "text": "請大家再稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3197.wav",
        "text": "請內政部最後一個附帶決議給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3198.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部敬請大家稍安勿躁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3199.wav",
        "text": "我們現在先唸協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3200.wav",
        "text": "請保持會場的安靜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3201.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3202.wav",
        "text": "\n立法院黨團協商結論時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3203.wav",
        "text": "113年7月2日（星期二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3204.wav",
        "text": "）下午12時46分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3205.wav",
        "text": "至3時18分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3206.wav",
        "text": "地點紅樓302會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3207.wav",
        "text": "一併案審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3208.wav",
        "text": "王美惠等19人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3209.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3210.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3211.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3212.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3213.wav",
        "text": "擬具新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3214.wav",
        "text": "基本法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3215.wav",
        "text": "案\n二行政函請審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3216.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3217.wav",
        "text": "草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3218.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3219.wav",
        "text": "草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3220.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3221.wav",
        "text": "草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3222.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3223.wav",
        "text": "草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3224.wav",
        "text": "一各黨團同意本法案以行政院提案為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3225.wav",
        "text": "討論基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3226.wav",
        "text": "照行政院版本通過條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3227.wav",
        "text": "法案名稱第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3228.wav",
        "text": "第3條第4條第6條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3229.wav",
        "text": "第7條第9條第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3230.wav",
        "text": "第12條至第19條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3231.wav",
        "text": "第2條第5條第8條第11條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3232.wav",
        "text": "）\n三審查會保留之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3233.wav",
        "text": "第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3234.wav",
        "text": "第6條委員蘇巧慧等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3235.wav",
        "text": "26人提案第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3236.wav",
        "text": "委員王美惠等19人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3237.wav",
        "text": "第9條委員邱鎮軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3238.wav",
        "text": "第4條審查會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3239.wav",
        "text": "均不予採納"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3240.wav",
        "text": "\n四委員提案及相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3241.wav",
        "text": "修正動議均列入紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3242.wav",
        "text": "刊登公報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3243.wav",
        "text": "\n五補充立法說明（如附件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3244.wav",
        "text": "）\n六協商通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3245.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議12項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3246.wav",
        "text": "（含審查會決議2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3247.wav",
        "text": "就是內政部所擬的最後一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3248.wav",
        "text": "請大家稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3249.wav",
        "text": "我們等最後一條內政部這個通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3250.wav",
        "text": "我先簽字謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3251.wav",
        "text": "依序麻煩各黨團幹部請簽字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3252.wav",
        "text": "跟黨團幹部報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3253.wav",
        "text": "內政部的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3254.wav",
        "text": "已經來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3255.wav",
        "text": "就是本法立法院通過一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3256.wav",
        "text": "內政部會成立專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3257.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3258.wav",
        "text": "內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3259.wav",
        "text": "應成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3260.wav",
        "text": "專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3261.wav",
        "text": "沒關係可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3262.wav",
        "text": "麥委員也可以發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3263.wav",
        "text": "專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3264.wav",
        "text": "是什麼單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3265.wav",
        "text": "劉部長再補充說明是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3266.wav",
        "text": "剛才跟大家報告過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3267.wav",
        "text": "就是我們在討論的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3268.wav",
        "text": "目前為止不要修到任何組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3269.wav",
        "text": "條例結構的話就是在內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3270.wav",
        "text": "下面設新住民司是最快的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3271.wav",
        "text": "人員的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3272.wav",
        "text": "我們也跟人總尋求支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3273.wav",
        "text": "大概會在十幾到20個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3274.wav",
        "text": "左右跟現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3275.wav",
        "text": "一個小小的科是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3276.wav",
        "text": "如果有人認為需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3277.wav",
        "text": "成立中心或是署的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3278.wav",
        "text": "按照剛剛人總的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3279.wav",
        "text": "現在署的這個組織架構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3280.wav",
        "text": "在所有的行政院系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3281.wav",
        "text": "已經滿了變成要去掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3282.wav",
        "text": "某一個署才能把我們這個新住民署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3283.wav",
        "text": "放上去這個要曠日廢時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3284.wav",
        "text": "所以如果讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3285.wav",
        "text": "可以多做一些內部的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3286.wav",
        "text": "包括跟人總的協調的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3287.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛在附帶決議裡面寫專責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3288.wav",
        "text": "單位也是在我們條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3289.wav",
        "text": "附設得非常清楚但是無論如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3290.wav",
        "text": "它的組織架構程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3291.wav",
        "text": "會跟我們現在的移民署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3292.wav",
        "text": "是一樣的平行的以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3293.wav",
        "text": "我們就比較實際的來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3294.wav",
        "text": "我覺得先成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3295.wav",
        "text": "司然後運作一段時間之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3296.wav",
        "text": "如果有需要我們要再往上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3297.wav",
        "text": "我覺得那才是比較務實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3298.wav",
        "text": "比較實際的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3299.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝張宏陸委員發言接下來洪孟楷委員請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3300.wav",
        "text": "人事總處還是相關單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3301.wav",
        "text": "中央行政機關組織基準法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3302.wav",
        "text": "第25條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3303.wav",
        "text": "機關裡面內部單位分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3304.wav",
        "text": "一級二級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3305.wav",
        "text": "一級內部單位就是有包含司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3306.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3307.wav",
        "text": "所以如果這樣寫的話我想我們還是要明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3308.wav",
        "text": "因為你說專責單位到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3309.wav",
        "text": "來一個科這種不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3310.wav",
        "text": "是不是一級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3311.wav",
        "text": "專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3312.wav",
        "text": "我現在確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3313.wav",
        "text": "因為我現在就說司的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3314.wav",
        "text": "到底是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3315.wav",
        "text": "它是不是有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3316.wav",
        "text": "把它我現在講的是既然我們大家都有一個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3317.wav",
        "text": "就是它就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3318.wav",
        "text": "內政部下面的我知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3319.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員我提醒你一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3320.wav",
        "text": "你講完這個人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3321.wav",
        "text": "讓他發言好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3322.wav",
        "text": "我們把它給明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3323.wav",
        "text": "就是要成立一個他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3324.wav",
        "text": "們是對那怎麼樣形容好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3325.wav",
        "text": "告比如說在部或者委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3326.wav",
        "text": "一級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3327.wav",
        "text": "業務單位叫做司幕僚單位叫處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3328.wav",
        "text": "二級單位就是設科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3329.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3330.wav",
        "text": "一級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3331.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛就在想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3332.wav",
        "text": "不然就成立專責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3333.wav",
        "text": "司級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3334.wav",
        "text": "就是解除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3335.wav",
        "text": "我們麥委員的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3336.wav",
        "text": "這個決議能夠調整一下就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3337.wav",
        "text": "本法立法通過一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3338.wav",
        "text": "內政部成立一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3339.wav",
        "text": "司級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3340.wav",
        "text": "專責司級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3341.wav",
        "text": "就加兩個字好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3342.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3343.wav",
        "text": "人事總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3344.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以建議修正為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3345.wav",
        "text": "內政部設一級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3346.wav",
        "text": "啦一級單位就是就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3347.wav",
        "text": "一級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3348.wav",
        "text": "一級業務單位就是好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3349.wav",
        "text": "那我們各位委員同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3350.wav",
        "text": "柯總召現在我們再念一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3351.wav",
        "text": "現在人事總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3352.wav",
        "text": "剛剛麥委員講司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3353.wav",
        "text": "司級單位我們就尊重他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3354.wav",
        "text": "就寫司級就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3355.wav",
        "text": "行政機關自己的規定怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3356.wav",
        "text": "自己都看得懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3357.wav",
        "text": "啊我們就司級就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3358.wav",
        "text": "一級司級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3359.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3360.wav",
        "text": "是行政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3361.wav",
        "text": "但新住民是普遍全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3362.wav",
        "text": "啦所以為什麼我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3363.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有辦法二級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3364.wav",
        "text": "有個署的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3365.wav",
        "text": "我們是可以設不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3366.wav",
        "text": "站或者局處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3367.wav",
        "text": "這樣在地方才能落實的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3368.wav",
        "text": "每個地方都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3369.wav",
        "text": "政府地方都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3370.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3371.wav",
        "text": "也可以設各個地方服務站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3372.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話才真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3373.wav",
        "text": "每個地方都落實照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3374.wav",
        "text": "我的目的是希望每個地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3375.wav",
        "text": "對是這樣子的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3376.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這樣子去設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3377.wav",
        "text": "去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3378.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3379.wav",
        "text": "你要栽培人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3380.wav",
        "text": "不對不能用一個司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3381.wav",
        "text": "就是在這裡行政作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3382.wav",
        "text": "我目標就是說你栽培人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3383.wav",
        "text": "嘛我的目標就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3384.wav",
        "text": "所以也是你們的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3385.wav",
        "text": "就是要照顧讓人家去我請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3386.wav",
        "text": "麥委員你講的那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3387.wav",
        "text": "內政部所通過的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3388.wav",
        "text": "您能不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3389.wav",
        "text": "如果你能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3390.wav",
        "text": "就是牛委員所講的我們先求有了再來求好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3391.wav",
        "text": "對我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3392.wav",
        "text": "司裡面是不是可以再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3393.wav",
        "text": "行政命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3394.wav",
        "text": "所以那就是在縣市政府有這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3395.wav",
        "text": "各位委員同仁現在內政部所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3396.wav",
        "text": "送過來本法立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3397.wav",
        "text": "通過一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3398.wav",
        "text": "內政部將成立專責的一級單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3399.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3400.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝大家我們現在休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3401.wav",
        "text": "大家吃晚飯7點50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3402.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3403.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3404.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部各位委員同仁各位列席的閣員跟官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3405.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝大家各位官員閣員的參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3406.wav",
        "text": "首先歡迎國家發展委員會的彭副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3407.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3408.wav",
        "text": "董次長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3409.wav",
        "text": "\n經濟部的何次長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3410.wav",
        "text": "\n勞動部的許次長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3411.wav",
        "text": "\n交通部的陳次長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3412.wav",
        "text": "\n衛福部的呂次長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3413.wav",
        "text": "\n原民會的谷縱副主委歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3414.wav",
        "text": "\n行政院主計總處的陳副主計長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3415.wav",
        "text": "\n報告各位黨團幹部各位列席官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3416.wav",
        "text": "我們現在要繼續協商的是國民黨黨團擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3417.wav",
        "text": "具43震災重建條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3418.wav",
        "text": "本案經第1會期第10次會議決定逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3419.wav",
        "text": "並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3420.wav",
        "text": "本席因國民黨黨團請求對本案進行首次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3421.wav",
        "text": "針對本法案的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3422.wav",
        "text": "我們先請提案的國民黨黨團代表進行說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3423.wav",
        "text": "再由相關部門回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3424.wav",
        "text": "\n我們先從法案名稱開始進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3425.wav",
        "text": "請國民黨黨團先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3426.wav",
        "text": "這是一個比較嚴肅的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3427.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3428.wav",
        "text": "從今年4月3日到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3429.wav",
        "text": "已經事隔三個多月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3430.wav",
        "text": "這次的震度是7.2級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3431.wav",
        "text": "跟九二一大地震的7.3級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3432.wav",
        "text": "是完全同級的大地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3433.wav",
        "text": "當時在九二一大地震發生之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3434.wav",
        "text": "大概在兩週內立法院就立刻通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3435.wav",
        "text": "九二一的震災條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3436.wav",
        "text": "立法院也是在最短時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3437.wav",
        "text": "莫拉克的重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3438.wav",
        "text": "要跟大家報告的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3439.wav",
        "text": "這次地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3440.wav",
        "text": "災民500多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3441.wav",
        "text": "無家可歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3442.wav",
        "text": "到現在都還沒有辦法處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3443.wav",
        "text": "我們也感謝陳建仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3444.wav",
        "text": "前行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3445.wav",
        "text": "並通過了285.5億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3446.wav",
        "text": "震災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3447.wav",
        "text": "以及振興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3448.wav",
        "text": "工作就是行政院已經核定了285.5億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3449.wav",
        "text": "在這裡面因為隔了3個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3450.wav",
        "text": "現在的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3451.wav",
        "text": "地方產業幾乎是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3452.wav",
        "text": "面臨全倒的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3453.wav",
        "text": "系統性風暴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3454.wav",
        "text": "過去7月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3455.wav",
        "text": "花蓮的住房大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3456.wav",
        "text": "8月份也有九成多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3457.wav",
        "text": "因為花蓮第一大產業就是觀光產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3458.wav",
        "text": "這個地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3459.wav",
        "text": "發生以後到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3460.wav",
        "text": "我們7月份的住房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3461.wav",
        "text": "8月份在兩成以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3462.wav",
        "text": "以觀光產業為主的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3463.wav",
        "text": "民宿餐廳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3464.wav",
        "text": "聘用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3465.wav",
        "text": "銀行的利息還要繼續繳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3466.wav",
        "text": "所以現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3467.wav",
        "text": "包括這麼大的一個大集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3468.wav",
        "text": "在花蓮的翰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3469.wav",
        "text": "翰品飯店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3470.wav",
        "text": "也已經終止營業了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3471.wav",
        "text": "太魯閣山上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3472.wav",
        "text": "也停止營業了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3473.wav",
        "text": "現在花蓮停止營業的飯店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3474.wav",
        "text": "越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3475.wav",
        "text": "這個系統性的風暴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3476.wav",
        "text": "幾幾乎都在發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3477.wav",
        "text": "了而且還不只這樣還包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3478.wav",
        "text": "農業等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3479.wav",
        "text": "因為現在整個菜市場的銷售量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3480.wav",
        "text": "0%農特產品要出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3481.wav",
        "text": "然後蘇花公路又常常路斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3482.wav",
        "text": "還要繞著南臺灣跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3483.wav",
        "text": "才能運送到臺北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3484.wav",
        "text": "果菜市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3485.wav",
        "text": "所以現在各種問題都非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3486.wav",
        "text": "然後呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3487.wav",
        "text": "尤其是災民的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3488.wav",
        "text": "災民現在固然這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3489.wav",
        "text": "對他們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3490.wav",
        "text": "補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3491.wav",
        "text": "但是期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3492.wav",
        "text": "6個月以後又再6個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3493.wav",
        "text": "現在租房你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3494.wav",
        "text": "一家人去租一個房子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3495.wav",
        "text": "他能租多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3496.wav",
        "text": "我們現在請了慈濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3497.wav",
        "text": "協助幫忙慈濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3498.wav",
        "text": "也是只蓋一個中繼屋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3499.wav",
        "text": "房子倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3500.wav",
        "text": "他是有貸款的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3501.wav",
        "text": "他現在不是破產而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3502.wav",
        "text": "現在有這麼大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3503.wav",
        "text": "而且這邊本來就是一個經濟弱勢的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3504.wav",
        "text": "現在這些問題要怎麼解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3505.wav",
        "text": "\n也謝謝行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3506.wav",
        "text": "有匡列了285億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3507.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們這次是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3508.wav",
        "text": "純粹就人的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3509.wav",
        "text": "災民的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3510.wav",
        "text": "所以就行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3511.wav",
        "text": "所匡列的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3512.wav",
        "text": "民房災損安置及重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3513.wav",
        "text": "58.4億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3514.wav",
        "text": "這是中央匡列的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3515.wav",
        "text": "還有產業振興40.8億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3516.wav",
        "text": "針對中央匡列的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3517.wav",
        "text": "總共99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3518.wav",
        "text": "我們的條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3519.wav",
        "text": "在修正的部分我們修正為99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3520.wav",
        "text": "完完全全就是行政院匡列的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3521.wav",
        "text": "大家看到第二頁的圖卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3522.wav",
        "text": "就是行政院網站上公告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3523.wav",
        "text": "完全是以行政院的版本為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3524.wav",
        "text": "\n其他的公共建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3525.wav",
        "text": "重建補強的部分184億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3526.wav",
        "text": "由中央去進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3527.wav",
        "text": "還有其他的部分1.9億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3528.wav",
        "text": "我要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3529.wav",
        "text": "這58.4億跟40.8億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3530.wav",
        "text": "所有包括新北臺北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3531.wav",
        "text": "花蓮桃園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3532.wav",
        "text": "紅單戶黃單戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3533.wav",
        "text": "通通在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3534.wav",
        "text": "也是符合當時行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3535.wav",
        "text": "針對0403大地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3536.wav",
        "text": "所有受災的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3537.wav",
        "text": "都一體適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3538.wav",
        "text": "能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3539.wav",
        "text": "給災民最大的協助跟幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3540.wav",
        "text": "我記得2018年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3541.wav",
        "text": "0206大地震的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3542.wav",
        "text": "花蓮的屋倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3543.wav",
        "text": "災民大概是200人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3544.wav",
        "text": "並協助等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3545.wav",
        "text": "但是現在我們災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3546.wav",
        "text": "所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3547.wav",
        "text": "這個問題已經是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3548.wav",
        "text": "五六千的災民要怎麼去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3549.wav",
        "text": "打斷一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3550.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請國發會彭副主委準備發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3551.wav",
        "text": "當然現在我聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3552.wav",
        "text": "大家在講誰要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3553.wav",
        "text": "主責這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3554.wav",
        "text": "有32條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3555.wav",
        "text": "因為那個已經不合時宜了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3556.wav",
        "text": "基本上向大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3557.wav",
        "text": "這個條例後面大概都有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3558.wav",
        "text": "比方說第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3559.wav",
        "text": "是參照莫拉克風災的重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3560.wav",
        "text": "第2條也是參照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3561.wav",
        "text": "莫拉克風災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3562.wav",
        "text": "第3條也是參照莫拉克風災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3563.wav",
        "text": "當時民進黨黨團所提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3564.wav",
        "text": "所以這裡面的每一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3565.wav",
        "text": "都是按照我們過去災情時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3566.wav",
        "text": "能夠儘快把這次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3567.wav",
        "text": "所有災民受災戶的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3568.wav",
        "text": "好不好謝謝也請各政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3569.wav",
        "text": "代表能夠支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3570.wav",
        "text": "各政黨委員莊瑞雄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3571.wav",
        "text": "彭副主委發言完畢以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3572.wav",
        "text": "請內政部跟經濟部兩位政次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3573.wav",
        "text": "還有交通部等三位政次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3574.wav",
        "text": "請準備發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3575.wav",
        "text": "我先通知一下你們好準備一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3576.wav",
        "text": "我聽了心也很沈重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3577.wav",
        "text": "為地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3578.wav",
        "text": "協助災民這個大家都可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3579.wav",
        "text": "但是我聽到這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3580.wav",
        "text": "紅單跟黃單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3581.wav",
        "text": "100多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3582.wav",
        "text": "我只想問這個數字到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3583.wav",
        "text": "對還是不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3584.wav",
        "text": "你們給我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3585.wav",
        "text": "跟傅總召講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3586.wav",
        "text": "數字差距真的是很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3587.wav",
        "text": "光花蓮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3588.wav",
        "text": "紅單跟黃單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3589.wav",
        "text": "真的是100多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3590.wav",
        "text": "那你們給我的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3591.wav",
        "text": "現在就請內政部好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3592.wav",
        "text": "我聽到這個數字嚇一跳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3593.wav",
        "text": "麻煩內政部董次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3594.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長也謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3595.wav",
        "text": "垂詢目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3596.wav",
        "text": "紅黃單的資料統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3597.wav",
        "text": "不需要張貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3598.wav",
        "text": "危險標誌的是761戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3599.wav",
        "text": "已經拆除的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3600.wav",
        "text": "有17戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3601.wav",
        "text": "這是目前我們針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3602.wav",
        "text": "紅單的有110戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3603.wav",
        "text": "張貼黃單的有207戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3604.wav",
        "text": "不需要張貼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3605.wav",
        "text": "危險建物大概有2,681戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3606.wav",
        "text": "已拆除戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3607.wav",
        "text": "有19戶以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3608.wav",
        "text": "莊委員的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3609.wav",
        "text": "我說一下內政部這個說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3610.wav",
        "text": "實在真的是要改進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3611.wav",
        "text": "我再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3612.wav",
        "text": "都是13層以上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3613.wav",
        "text": "是紅單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3614.wav",
        "text": "黃單有27棟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3615.wav",
        "text": "單一住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3616.wav",
        "text": "紅單有75件黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3617.wav",
        "text": "黃單單一住宅有79件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3618.wav",
        "text": "大樓雖然你們算一張紅單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3619.wav",
        "text": "但是它裡面有上百戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3620.wav",
        "text": "所以我再講一次戶數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3621.wav",
        "text": "黃單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3622.wav",
        "text": "這個資料我可以印給大家沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3623.wav",
        "text": "你一棟大樓幾百戶也就算一張而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3624.wav",
        "text": "我們再逐步來對一下數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3625.wav",
        "text": "請國發會彭副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3626.wav",
        "text": "請您發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3627.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3628.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3629.wav",
        "text": "大家晚安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3630.wav",
        "text": "實上震災發生之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3631.wav",
        "text": "其實我們新政府在5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3632.wav",
        "text": "已經由院長這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3633.wav",
        "text": "召開了一個專案會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3634.wav",
        "text": "專案會議也有特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3635.wav",
        "text": "0403的地震專案小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3636.wav",
        "text": "由院長擔任召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3637.wav",
        "text": "由我們正副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3638.wav",
        "text": "各項復原重建工作由工程會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3639.wav",
        "text": "跨部會做主責彙整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3640.wav",
        "text": "國發會專責辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3641.wav",
        "text": "報院核定的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3642.wav",
        "text": "各部會都應該要盡心盡力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3643.wav",
        "text": "大概300億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3644.wav",
        "text": "後續各部會也都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3645.wav",
        "text": "三個原則來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3646.wav",
        "text": "花蓮及其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3647.wav",
        "text": "縣市政府如期如質且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3648.wav",
        "text": "全面有效率的來完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3649.wav",
        "text": "以上報告謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3650.wav",
        "text": "因為行政院卓院長交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3651.wav",
        "text": "由國發會來統籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3652.wav",
        "text": "所以請您第一個報告請你理解好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3653.wav",
        "text": "謝謝現在請經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3654.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3655.wav",
        "text": "謹就經濟部目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3656.wav",
        "text": "震災之後所提供的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3657.wav",
        "text": "輔導措施包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3658.wav",
        "text": "對一些產業的振興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3659.wav",
        "text": "石材產業對於石材產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3660.wav",
        "text": "破碎石材截至目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3661.wav",
        "text": "到7月3號為止我們已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3662.wav",
        "text": "協助清運了大概42.3%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3663.wav",
        "text": "低利貸款目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3664.wav",
        "text": "已經有承作了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3665.wav",
        "text": "還有提供一些水電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3666.wav",
        "text": "補助措施包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3667.wav",
        "text": "房屋毀損不堪居住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3668.wav",
        "text": "水電費用免收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3669.wav",
        "text": "災損的廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3670.wav",
        "text": "於美崙和平跟光華"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3671.wav",
        "text": "三處產業園區進駐的廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3672.wav",
        "text": "我們也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3673.wav",
        "text": "維護費的減半徵收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3674.wav",
        "text": "自4月到12月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3675.wav",
        "text": "以上是經濟部所提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3676.wav",
        "text": "輔導跟振興的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3677.wav",
        "text": "政府合辦一些聯合行銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3678.wav",
        "text": "謝謝經濟部的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3679.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請交通部陳次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3680.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3681.wav",
        "text": "主席還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3682.wav",
        "text": "的立場來做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3683.wav",
        "text": "震災交通部大概分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3684.wav",
        "text": "三個方向來做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3685.wav",
        "text": "一個是有關公路的搶修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3686.wav",
        "text": "鐵路的搶災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3687.wav",
        "text": "這些大概都編有相關的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3688.wav",
        "text": "而且這些預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3689.wav",
        "text": "所有的鐵路是正常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3690.wav",
        "text": "下清水橋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3691.wav",
        "text": "要復建到年底的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3692.wav",
        "text": "有三個時段是管制通行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3693.wav",
        "text": "不受限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3694.wav",
        "text": "大概也都不是問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3695.wav",
        "text": "大家比較關心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3696.wav",
        "text": "有關觀光的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3697.wav",
        "text": "特別提到相關的住房確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3698.wav",
        "text": "在4月的時候是非常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3699.wav",
        "text": "嚴峻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3700.wav",
        "text": "的經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3701.wav",
        "text": "還有各部會各單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3702.wav",
        "text": "4月份的時候住房率大概只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3703.wav",
        "text": "14%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3704.wav",
        "text": "5月份的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3705.wav",
        "text": "又更低了一點13.59%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3706.wav",
        "text": "但是到了6月我們發現已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3707.wav",
        "text": "回升到24.17%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3708.wav",
        "text": "所以我們相信隨著7月暑假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3709.wav",
        "text": "住房的優惠或團體旅遊的優惠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3710.wav",
        "text": "在那裡點火的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3711.wav",
        "text": "相信可以有一定的助益而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3712.wav",
        "text": "益而且從另外一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3713.wav",
        "text": "交通部也行文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3714.wav",
        "text": "各部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3715.wav",
        "text": "如果有相關的活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3716.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠在花蓮舉行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3717.wav",
        "text": "交通部也率先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3718.wav",
        "text": "有好幾個活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3719.wav",
        "text": "或者是論壇等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3720.wav",
        "text": "就是在花蓮辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3721.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望透過這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3722.wav",
        "text": "觀光業有所振興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3723.wav",
        "text": "以上大概是交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3724.wav",
        "text": "就這個事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3725.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3726.wav",
        "text": "剛才幾個部會的次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3727.wav",
        "text": "都已經做出報告其實地震會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3728.wav",
        "text": "非常多的部會包括我們花蓮原住民委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3729.wav",
        "text": "衛生福利部等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3730.wav",
        "text": "我們先請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3731.wav",
        "text": "幾位次長報告完畢後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3732.wav",
        "text": "歡迎各位黨團各位幹部發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3733.wav",
        "text": "言吳思瑤委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3734.wav",
        "text": "我想面對這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3735.wav",
        "text": "震災我們的心情都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3736.wav",
        "text": "同樣的沉重也都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3737.wav",
        "text": "基於立法委員的職責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3738.wav",
        "text": "來處理當然傅委員是選區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3739.wav",
        "text": "立委但我們身為立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3740.wav",
        "text": "大家都有職責都應全面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3741.wav",
        "text": "4月3號到今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3742.wav",
        "text": "剛好是第100天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3743.wav",
        "text": "有跟大家再報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3744.wav",
        "text": "災害的影響層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3745.wav",
        "text": "也就是災情有多嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3746.wav",
        "text": "譬如說有多少紅單的戶數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3747.wav",
        "text": "這些其實我們都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3748.wav",
        "text": "看到了確實是造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3749.wav",
        "text": "很大程度的傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3750.wav",
        "text": "\n但是一個災害在歷經100天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3751.wav",
        "text": "之後我們要思考的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3752.wav",
        "text": "現階段的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3753.wav",
        "text": "救災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3754.wav",
        "text": "也就是災害協助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3755.wav",
        "text": "實質面有哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3756.wav",
        "text": "不足的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3757.wav",
        "text": "有哪些應做而未做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3758.wav",
        "text": "或者是應做而做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3759.wav",
        "text": "但是做得不夠到位的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3760.wav",
        "text": "應當是在4月3號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3761.wav",
        "text": "到現在的第100天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3762.wav",
        "text": "我們來檢視整個行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3763.wav",
        "text": "從推出0403"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3764.wav",
        "text": "震災復原重建方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3765.wav",
        "text": "的第100天到現在我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3766.wav",
        "text": "作為立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3767.wav",
        "text": "來檢視也是有其必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3768.wav",
        "text": "\n但今天坐在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3769.wav",
        "text": "我們要進行的是法案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3770.wav",
        "text": "要處理的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3771.wav",
        "text": "就是傅委員領銜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3772.wav",
        "text": "重建條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3773.wav",
        "text": "第一個我要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3774.wav",
        "text": "的是這個案子委員會沒有審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3775.wav",
        "text": "查因為是逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3776.wav",
        "text": "所以可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3777.wav",
        "text": "我們在理解每一個條文上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3778.wav",
        "text": "我都儘可能去理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3779.wav",
        "text": "它的必須性跟對應於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3780.wav",
        "text": "現在行政部門做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3781.wav",
        "text": "然後我要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3782.wav",
        "text": "的是有哪些做了但是做得不夠到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3783.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以來檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3784.wav",
        "text": "\n我看到傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3785.wav",
        "text": "也附了行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3786.wav",
        "text": "有關於我們重建方案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3787.wav",
        "text": "幾個ppt幾個簡報的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3788.wav",
        "text": "於傅總召從第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3789.wav",
        "text": "媒體揭露就是第一次提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3790.wav",
        "text": "的該條例需求的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3791.wav",
        "text": "是150億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3792.wav",
        "text": "而行政部門投入越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3793.wav",
        "text": "救災做得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3794.wav",
        "text": "所以行政部門也不斷地在加碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3795.wav",
        "text": "經過試算因為進入災區以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3796.wav",
        "text": "就更理解需求在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3797.wav",
        "text": "所以一直增加到285.5億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3798.wav",
        "text": "但是我知道應當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3799.wav",
        "text": "就是300億的規模是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3800.wav",
        "text": "有這個準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3801.wav",
        "text": "召他提出來的重建條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3802.wav",
        "text": "150億需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3803.wav",
        "text": "今天的條文裡面傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3804.wav",
        "text": "傅總召也針對部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3805.wav",
        "text": "條文有做出修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3806.wav",
        "text": "當然就包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3807.wav",
        "text": "了一些匡列的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3808.wav",
        "text": "的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3809.wav",
        "text": "而這個匡列的金額的支出是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3810.wav",
        "text": "對應於行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3811.wav",
        "text": "現有的重建方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3812.wav",
        "text": "已經執行了多少或是編列了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3813.wav",
        "text": "的這個額度傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3814.wav",
        "text": "原始規模是150億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3815.wav",
        "text": "的這個條例裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3816.wav",
        "text": "是因為我相信傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3817.wav",
        "text": "也很清楚地看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3818.wav",
        "text": "行政部門0403震災復原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3819.wav",
        "text": "重建方案裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3820.wav",
        "text": "不管是公共設施搶救重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3821.wav",
        "text": "民房災損安置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3822.wav",
        "text": "以及重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3823.wav",
        "text": "乃至於產業振興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3824.wav",
        "text": "企業紓困"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3825.wav",
        "text": "急難救助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3826.wav",
        "text": "各類的社會福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3827.wav",
        "text": "等等的面向我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3828.wav",
        "text": "行政部門的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3829.wav",
        "text": "傅總召作為選區立委他應最為關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3830.wav",
        "text": "而這都有回應到他今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3831.wav",
        "text": "提出來的條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3832.wav",
        "text": "本文裡頭的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3833.wav",
        "text": "所以某種程度我覺得是行政"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3834.wav",
        "text": "協力方案也應當是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3835.wav",
        "text": "符合現在花蓮所需求的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3836.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3837.wav",
        "text": "\n所以這樣驗證回來就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3838.wav",
        "text": "立法的狀況之下你們已經在做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3839.wav",
        "text": "已經進行了100天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3840.wav",
        "text": "的災救之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3841.wav",
        "text": "其實本質項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3842.wav",
        "text": "救災需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3843.wav",
        "text": "內涵範圍協力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3844.wav",
        "text": "對象其實是對得起來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3845.wav",
        "text": "並沒有什麼是遺漏的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3846.wav",
        "text": "並沒有什麼是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3847.wav",
        "text": "應做而未做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3848.wav",
        "text": "當然我要強調有沒有做得到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3849.wav",
        "text": "這個絕對是要做得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3850.wav",
        "text": "對於災區的重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3851.wav",
        "text": "是我們難以推諉的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3852.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3853.wav",
        "text": "從簡從各個方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3854.wav",
        "text": "下去做對於災區給予"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3855.wav",
        "text": "實際的實質的協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3856.wav",
        "text": "這個是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3857.wav",
        "text": "而且已經歷經了100天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3858.wav",
        "text": "\n今天如果要再用一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3859.wav",
        "text": "立法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3860.wav",
        "text": "則我必須站在立法委員的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3861.wav",
        "text": "也跟韓院長做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3862.wav",
        "text": "921是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3863.wav",
        "text": "發生在88年9月21號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3864.wav",
        "text": "那個時候臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3865.wav",
        "text": "並沒有一個災救的體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3866.wav",
        "text": "也沒有相關的法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3867.wav",
        "text": "所以李登輝前總統頒布了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3868.wav",
        "text": "緊急命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3869.wav",
        "text": "我那時候在立法院我就是幕僚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3870.wav",
        "text": "我可能就是坐在後面這一排的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3871.wav",
        "text": "所以我就馬上投入了災害防救法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3872.wav",
        "text": "整個立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3873.wav",
        "text": "那個時候還沒有災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3874.wav",
        "text": "對不起我先更正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3875.wav",
        "text": "在發生災害之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3876.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有相關的法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3877.wav",
        "text": "頒布了總統的緊急命令之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3878.wav",
        "text": "國家開始思考我們需要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3879.wav",
        "text": "921震災的重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3880.wav",
        "text": "用一個條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3881.wav",
        "text": "來滿足緊急命令的過渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3882.wav",
        "text": "未來用一個立法的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3883.wav",
        "text": "所以在95年2月5號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3884.wav",
        "text": "立法院通過了九二一重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3885.wav",
        "text": "而之後國家各部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3886.wav",
        "text": "都思考到我們需要一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3887.wav",
        "text": "更全方位的災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3888.wav",
        "text": "那個時候我是國會幕僚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3889.wav",
        "text": "我就投入了那個時候的立法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3890.wav",
        "text": "災害防救法就完成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3891.wav",
        "text": "一體適用在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3892.wav",
        "text": "天然災害當然災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3893.wav",
        "text": "後來也擴充了很多不同的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3894.wav",
        "text": "災害項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3895.wav",
        "text": "災害防救法之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3896.wav",
        "text": "我們就沒有針對任何地震類的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3897.wav",
        "text": "災害來進行單一的立法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3898.wav",
        "text": "特別的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3899.wav",
        "text": "但是唯一一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3900.wav",
        "text": "有特別針對天然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3901.wav",
        "text": "災害來特別立法的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3902.wav",
        "text": "只有一個就是莫拉克風災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3903.wav",
        "text": "所以莫拉克風災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3904.wav",
        "text": "您的立法裡面有很多參照的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3905.wav",
        "text": "條文您都援引了莫拉克風災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3906.wav",
        "text": "\n我要說的是也許大家會想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3907.wav",
        "text": "既然有災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3908.wav",
        "text": "之後又有莫拉克風災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3909.wav",
        "text": "特別條例所以不代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3910.wav",
        "text": "有了災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3911.wav",
        "text": "其他的天然災害就不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3912.wav",
        "text": "再有任何的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3913.wav",
        "text": "可能大家會這樣覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3914.wav",
        "text": "可是我要告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3915.wav",
        "text": "特別條例訂定之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3916.wav",
        "text": "災害防救法又再一次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3917.wav",
        "text": "進行更大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3918.wav",
        "text": "翻修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3919.wav",
        "text": "翻修的完成是在111年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3920.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3921.wav",
        "text": "從早期因應921地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3922.wav",
        "text": "到有莫拉克風災之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3923.wav",
        "text": "它又有更精進的大修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3924.wav",
        "text": "然後我們又增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3925.wav",
        "text": "很多新的項目的災害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3926.wav",
        "text": "包括我自己提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3927.wav",
        "text": "火山災害因為我是大屯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3928.wav",
        "text": "所以災害防救法基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3929.wav",
        "text": "已經是一個不斷擴充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3930.wav",
        "text": "不斷的upgrade"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3931.wav",
        "text": "不斷的去因應各種救災的能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3932.wav",
        "text": "讓我們臺灣的救災體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3933.wav",
        "text": "可以用國家隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3934.wav",
        "text": "來投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3935.wav",
        "text": "所以在111年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3936.wav",
        "text": "災害防救法全文翻修之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3937.wav",
        "text": "就再也沒有任何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3938.wav",
        "text": "一個天然災害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3939.wav",
        "text": "需要特別的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3940.wav",
        "text": "很清楚的就如同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3941.wav",
        "text": "臺南的0206大地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3942.wav",
        "text": "0206大地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3943.wav",
        "text": "也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3944.wav",
        "text": "大家都印象深刻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3945.wav",
        "text": "那時候為什麼沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3946.wav",
        "text": "搞特別條特例別立法呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3947.wav",
        "text": "因為災害防救法經過檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3948.wav",
        "text": "已經足以適用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3949.wav",
        "text": "在一個國家的救災體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3950.wav",
        "text": "都相當完備的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3951.wav",
        "text": "災害防救法的機制之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3952.wav",
        "text": "我們實在不宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3953.wav",
        "text": "再針對地震這一類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3954.wav",
        "text": "我們已經因應好幾次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3955.wav",
        "text": "國家準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3956.wav",
        "text": "跟救災的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3957.wav",
        "text": "再去做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3958.wav",
        "text": "特別的單一的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3959.wav",
        "text": "我一定要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3960.wav",
        "text": "否則以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3961.wav",
        "text": "可能任何一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3962.wav",
        "text": "天然災害都再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3963.wav",
        "text": "一個特別立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3964.wav",
        "text": "更優於災害防救法的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3965.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個是我們要檢視的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3966.wav",
        "text": "所以我個人認為災害防救法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3967.wav",
        "text": "可以因應應付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3968.wav",
        "text": "這一類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3969.wav",
        "text": "天然災害的類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3970.wav",
        "text": "與災害類型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3971.wav",
        "text": "而我希望回到災害防救法體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3972.wav",
        "text": "事實上災害防救法體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3973.wav",
        "text": "現在已經用在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3974.wav",
        "text": "行政院0403災害重建方案裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3975.wav",
        "text": "所以你們才很周全地提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3976.wav",
        "text": "我們可以做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3977.wav",
        "text": "我也看了你們的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3978.wav",
        "text": "其實有很多是更優於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3979.wav",
        "text": "災害防救法的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3980.wav",
        "text": "這是不容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3981.wav",
        "text": "抹滅的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3982.wav",
        "text": "不管實質跟法律的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3983.wav",
        "text": "我都做出了一些分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3984.wav",
        "text": "跟論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3985.wav",
        "text": "我們可以回來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3986.wav",
        "text": "有哪些關心選區的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3987.wav",
        "text": "認為災害防救協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3988.wav",
        "text": "救災的部分還沒有做到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3989.wav",
        "text": "立法院能夠督促行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3990.wav",
        "text": "繼續把它做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3991.wav",
        "text": "但不是透過一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3992.wav",
        "text": "災害發生了一百零天之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3993.wav",
        "text": "再回頭來立一個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3994.wav",
        "text": "這個東西我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3995.wav",
        "text": "我們的目標都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3996.wav",
        "text": "讓救災做到更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3997.wav",
        "text": "我覺得大有商榷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3998.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/3999.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4000.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4001.wav",
        "text": "你不講兩句我都覺得怪怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4002.wav",
        "text": "思瑤講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4003.wav",
        "text": "已經都用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4004.wav",
        "text": "災防法了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4005.wav",
        "text": "而且2022"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4006.wav",
        "text": "都已經在立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4007.wav",
        "text": "921的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4008.wav",
        "text": "但莫拉克以後就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4009.wav",
        "text": "了我們今天要談的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4010.wav",
        "text": "實際上傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4011.wav",
        "text": "我們都很關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4012.wav",
        "text": "大家也都會幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4013.wav",
        "text": "至於差一點是差在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4014.wav",
        "text": "大家來對清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4015.wav",
        "text": "用的錢都下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4016.wav",
        "text": "你本來寫150"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4017.wav",
        "text": "億現在看到政府提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4018.wav",
        "text": "可以的都會做給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4019.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4020.wav",
        "text": "你堅持用條例的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4021.wav",
        "text": "那麼體例上會有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4022.wav",
        "text": "你的條例裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4023.wav",
        "text": "所要的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4024.wav",
        "text": "是不是有些部分可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4025.wav",
        "text": "要跟行政部門談好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4026.wav",
        "text": "房子全部倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4027.wav",
        "text": "的要國家全部蓋新的給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4028.wav",
        "text": "是我們所發生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4029.wav",
        "text": "而且會造成以後建商隨便蓋一蓋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4030.wav",
        "text": "這個觀念要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4031.wav",
        "text": "我相信花蓮也有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4032.wav",
        "text": "善款進來就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4033.wav",
        "text": "如何統合應用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4034.wav",
        "text": "傅總召的爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4035.wav",
        "text": "應該只在這個地方吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4036.wav",
        "text": "其他還有什麼爭點大家講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4037.wav",
        "text": "才能夠走得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4038.wav",
        "text": "285億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4039.wav",
        "text": "這個東西就是政府能幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4040.wav",
        "text": "的一定會幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4041.wav",
        "text": "但必須是體例上能夠做得到部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4042.wav",
        "text": "來談才有交集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4043.wav",
        "text": "最後只剩下這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4044.wav",
        "text": "而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4045.wav",
        "text": "再一次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4046.wav",
        "text": "我要特別謝謝大家都很關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4047.wav",
        "text": "但要務實才能解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4048.wav",
        "text": "災民的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4049.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4050.wav",
        "text": "條例當然可以不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4051.wav",
        "text": "有確實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4052.wav",
        "text": "拯救災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4053.wav",
        "text": "有確實幫助到災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4054.wav",
        "text": "那我們當然就不會在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4055.wav",
        "text": "今天就是確實沒有幫到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4056.wav",
        "text": "力道也不夠所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4057.wav",
        "text": "所以問題就很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4058.wav",
        "text": "也因此我們才要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4059.wav",
        "text": "推這個條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4060.wav",
        "text": "關鍵就在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4061.wav",
        "text": "剛剛為什麼交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4062.wav",
        "text": "講到6月以後就停住了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4063.wav",
        "text": "到6月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4064.wav",
        "text": "主要產業才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4065.wav",
        "text": "24%的住房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4066.wav",
        "text": "率以前是100%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4067.wav",
        "text": "現在為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4068.wav",
        "text": "這份待會會發給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4069.wav",
        "text": "一起看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4070.wav",
        "text": "蘇花公路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4071.wav",
        "text": "臺9線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4072.wav",
        "text": "臺8線從6月22日到7月初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4073.wav",
        "text": "六次斷路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4074.wav",
        "text": "再加上兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4075.wav",
        "text": "鐵路出軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4076.wav",
        "text": "又加上鐵路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4077.wav",
        "text": "因土石流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4078.wav",
        "text": "造成現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4079.wav",
        "text": "沒有人敢來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4080.wav",
        "text": "畢竟天災也有人禍也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4081.wav",
        "text": "我這邊講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4082.wav",
        "text": "差一點像2021年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4083.wav",
        "text": "趕快踩煞車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4084.wav",
        "text": "土石流出去又撞到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4085.wav",
        "text": "隧道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4086.wav",
        "text": "屆時不曉得要幾十個人走掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4087.wav",
        "text": "鐵路局內部管理一塌糊塗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4088.wav",
        "text": "一二十分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4089.wav",
        "text": "監看都看到了卻沒有人通報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4090.wav",
        "text": "接著下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4091.wav",
        "text": "還有六次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4092.wav",
        "text": "差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4093.wav",
        "text": "78公尺寬的石頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4094.wav",
        "text": "掉下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4095.wav",
        "text": "擊中火車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4096.wav",
        "text": "地方上根本沒有辦法生存了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4097.wav",
        "text": "做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4098.wav",
        "text": "從6月1日開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4099.wav",
        "text": "一個人來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4100.wav",
        "text": "住第二天就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4101.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4102.wav",
        "text": "甚至可能連500億都做不起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4103.wav",
        "text": "太魯閣目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4104.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4105.wav",
        "text": "評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4106.wav",
        "text": "七年都沒有辦法修好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4107.wav",
        "text": "現在只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4108.wav",
        "text": "暫定明年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4109.wav",
        "text": "局部開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4110.wav",
        "text": "沒有全部做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4111.wav",
        "text": "大家是真的拿命在拼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4112.wav",
        "text": "滾下來的石頭都是78"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4113.wav",
        "text": "78米寬的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4114.wav",
        "text": "所以這種情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4115.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4116.wav",
        "text": "我們要面對這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4117.wav",
        "text": "再回到剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4118.wav",
        "text": "我現在先講產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4119.wav",
        "text": "因為產業會影響到住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4120.wav",
        "text": "這個系統性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4121.wav",
        "text": "風暴發生的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4122.wav",
        "text": "狀況是沒有辦法回復的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4123.wav",
        "text": "接著下來有5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4124.wav",
        "text": "用在全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4125.wav",
        "text": "的災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4126.wav",
        "text": "政府並不是像柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4127.wav",
        "text": "柯總召跑哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4128.wav",
        "text": "說不是房子倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4129.wav",
        "text": "政府就要蓋給你全世界沒人這樣但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4130.wav",
        "text": "臺南維冠也是百分之百蓋回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4131.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4132.wav",
        "text": "用善款當然可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4133.wav",
        "text": "但衛福部要把善款撥過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4134.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4135.wav",
        "text": "衛福部的善款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4136.wav",
        "text": "2018年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4137.wav",
        "text": "0206地震衛福部的善款是全部撥給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4138.wav",
        "text": "地方政府處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4139.wav",
        "text": "但這次都沒有撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4140.wav",
        "text": "對一下沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4141.wav",
        "text": "你問一下衛福部有沒有撥過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4142.wav",
        "text": "這個東西過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4143.wav",
        "text": "中央跟地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4144.wav",
        "text": "一起去找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4145.wav",
        "text": "衛福部李次長請準備報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4146.wav",
        "text": "請繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4147.wav",
        "text": "過去就全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4148.wav",
        "text": "撥回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4149.wav",
        "text": "地方就把它重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4150.wav",
        "text": "那現在呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4151.wav",
        "text": "柯總召一直在講的這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4152.wav",
        "text": "我要特別強調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4153.wav",
        "text": "現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4154.wav",
        "text": "行政院的這個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4155.wav",
        "text": "裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4156.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4157.wav",
        "text": "公務預算有撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4158.wav",
        "text": "它是怎麼撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4159.wav",
        "text": "因為現在這些災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4160.wav",
        "text": "沒有人的房子是沒有貸款的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4161.wav",
        "text": "現在這個房子完全沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4162.wav",
        "text": "不在了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4163.wav",
        "text": "但貸款還在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4164.wav",
        "text": "他還要付利息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4165.wav",
        "text": "還要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4166.wav",
        "text": "現在行政院的作法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4167.wav",
        "text": "1戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4168.wav",
        "text": "1坪12萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4169.wav",
        "text": "30坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4170.wav",
        "text": "就等於房子沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4171.wav",
        "text": "360萬給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4172.wav",
        "text": "然後你看著辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4173.wav",
        "text": "所以現在這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4174.wav",
        "text": "加劇的越來越嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4175.wav",
        "text": "現在就是說沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4176.wav",
        "text": "你要撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4177.wav",
        "text": "你可以多撥一點錢解決災民的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4178.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4179.wav",
        "text": "有我們這個條例做他們的後盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4180.wav",
        "text": "他們就可以比較方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4181.wav",
        "text": "也比較能夠確實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4182.wav",
        "text": "因為這些是直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4183.wav",
        "text": "救助災民嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4184.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天的條例就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4185.wav",
        "text": "補政府的強度不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4186.wav",
        "text": "嘛政府不是沒有這個科目來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4187.wav",
        "text": "進行但是它的強度不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4188.wav",
        "text": "有這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4189.wav",
        "text": "職責上的權力去進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4190.wav",
        "text": "對災民的救助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4191.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4192.wav",
        "text": "衛福部請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4193.wav",
        "text": "主席以及各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4194.wav",
        "text": "衛福部這邊做一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4195.wav",
        "text": "0403的花蓮震災募款專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4196.wav",
        "text": "已經募得新臺幣16億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4197.wav",
        "text": "4,412萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4198.wav",
        "text": "元整我們的用途主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4199.wav",
        "text": "災害援助緊急醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4200.wav",
        "text": "收容安置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4201.wav",
        "text": "復原重建等四大面向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4202.wav",
        "text": "我要強調一點就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4203.wav",
        "text": "我們到113年6月底已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4204.wav",
        "text": "預撥給受災的縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4205.wav",
        "text": "我們已經預撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4206.wav",
        "text": "內政部及原民會申請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4207.wav",
        "text": "賑助款項總共有16億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4208.wav",
        "text": "餘元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4209.wav",
        "text": "已經超過這一次募款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4210.wav",
        "text": "的所得以上是衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4211.wav",
        "text": "衛福部已經很清楚報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4212.wav",
        "text": "現在我們請柯建銘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4213.wav",
        "text": "它是把錢撥過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4214.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4215.wav",
        "text": "對內政部還有原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4216.wav",
        "text": "它本身就有錢你撥給它幹什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4217.wav",
        "text": "政府花了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4218.wav",
        "text": "超過285億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4219.wav",
        "text": "你這個也是285億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4220.wav",
        "text": "但是我是覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4221.wav",
        "text": "政府完全沒有幫到忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4222.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4223.wav",
        "text": "錢跑到哪裡不可能蒸發掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4224.wav",
        "text": "嘛政府的錢已經都下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4225.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4226.wav",
        "text": "我不是說都沒有幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4227.wav",
        "text": "是力道不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4228.wav",
        "text": "你第一句話就講說我把它寫起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4229.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講力道不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4230.wav",
        "text": "我們條例給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4231.wav",
        "text": "沒關係沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4232.wav",
        "text": "我想以花蓮縣政府的能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4233.wav",
        "text": "要去面對這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4234.wav",
        "text": "這整個地震出來的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4235.wav",
        "text": "一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4236.wav",
        "text": "能力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4237.wav",
        "text": "所以全部從中央下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4238.wav",
        "text": "我相信吳欣修署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4239.wav",
        "text": "應該說明得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4240.wav",
        "text": "整個中央團隊不管各部會都下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4241.wav",
        "text": "這個你不可以否認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4242.wav",
        "text": "啦\n這裡面各部會寫得很細"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4243.wav",
        "text": "真的都花下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4244.wav",
        "text": "到底為什麼你還覺得不夠到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4245.wav",
        "text": "你現在講到一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4246.wav",
        "text": "重點了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4247.wav",
        "text": "你要弄個條例來當後盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4248.wav",
        "text": "政府本來就有方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4249.wav",
        "text": "你要用條例來當後盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4250.wav",
        "text": "來當後盾的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4251.wav",
        "text": "條例都還沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4252.wav",
        "text": "我們早就全部做下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4253.wav",
        "text": "不需用條例來當後盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4254.wav",
        "text": "要條例當後盾就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4255.wav",
        "text": "叫政府硬要幹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4256.wav",
        "text": "政府也不敢這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4257.wav",
        "text": "沒有人這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4258.wav",
        "text": "我們現在要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4259.wav",
        "text": "我們要談一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4260.wav",
        "text": "這不是說不能談可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4261.wav",
        "text": "就力道可以到哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4262.wav",
        "text": "聚焦來談否則這樣會散發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4263.wav",
        "text": "坦白跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4264.wav",
        "text": "2000年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4265.wav",
        "text": "現在內政部次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4266.wav",
        "text": "叫馬士元也是我的助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4267.wav",
        "text": "他幫我寫一個非常完整的災防法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4268.wav",
        "text": "所以我們辦公室對於災防法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4269.wav",
        "text": "兩次都有提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4270.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4271.wav",
        "text": "各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4272.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天還有好多法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4273.wav",
        "text": "討論之後我再宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4274.wav",
        "text": "我們今天朝野協商的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4275.wav",
        "text": "我們先休息3分鐘大家討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4276.wav",
        "text": "\n因為現在雙方意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4277.wav",
        "text": "完全不一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4278.wav",
        "text": "那春城委員有沒有寶貴的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4279.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨還沒有發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4280.wav",
        "text": "有什麼意見也可以跟行政部門請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4281.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4282.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝各位列席的閣員跟官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4283.wav",
        "text": "大家非常辛苦再次感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4284.wav",
        "text": "我來宣告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4285.wav",
        "text": "對於本案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4286.wav",
        "text": "震災重建條例各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4287.wav",
        "text": "顯然無法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4288.wav",
        "text": "我們就送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4289.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有沒有院長我可以再發言一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4290.wav",
        "text": "就要送院會處理的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4291.wav",
        "text": "由傅崐萁委員所提的43震災重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4292.wav",
        "text": "好對不起國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4293.wav",
        "text": "好國民黨團版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4294.wav",
        "text": "OK國民黨團版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4295.wav",
        "text": "的43震災重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4296.wav",
        "text": "委員會沒有討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4297.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4298.wav",
        "text": "如果院長的裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4299.wav",
        "text": "就是要送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4300.wav",
        "text": "那我必須說我們對於條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4301.wav",
        "text": "都沒有run過而且我要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4302.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4303.wav",
        "text": "開始恢復應當是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4304.wav",
        "text": "7點50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4305.wav",
        "text": "7點50分到現在是8點40分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4306.wav",
        "text": "大概是過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4307.wav",
        "text": "50分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4308.wav",
        "text": "嘛一個逕付二讀的條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4309.wav",
        "text": "要用國庫現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4310.wav",
        "text": "285億元剛剛傅委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4311.wav",
        "text": "可能500億元也都不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4312.wav",
        "text": "如果我都不要講內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4313.wav",
        "text": "一個要國庫支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4314.wav",
        "text": "三五百零億的條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4315.wav",
        "text": "一個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4316.wav",
        "text": "都沒有run過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4317.wav",
        "text": "但是您剛剛在這裡也說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4318.wav",
        "text": "您會在行政院285億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4319.wav",
        "text": "規模裡面好那我們就285"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4320.wav",
        "text": "院長您看看在您手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4321.wav",
        "text": "50分鐘的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4322.wav",
        "text": "對於這個條例我們剛剛是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4323.wav",
        "text": "大體討論喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4324.wav",
        "text": "然後沒有進入實質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4325.wav",
        "text": "示就是可能在爭議上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4326.wav",
        "text": "滿多的然後逕送院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4327.wav",
        "text": "去處理一個重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4328.wav",
        "text": "條例協商時只討論50分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4329.wav",
        "text": "不好啦這樣真的不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4330.wav",
        "text": "如果要實質我們也是可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4331.wav",
        "text": "一下條文合理不合理要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4332.wav",
        "text": "經過檢視好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4333.wav",
        "text": "\n我要跟各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4334.wav",
        "text": "特別報告一下因為我們下面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4335.wav",
        "text": "還有很多案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4336.wav",
        "text": "包括公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4337.wav",
        "text": "包括刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4338.wav",
        "text": "包括科技偵查法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4339.wav",
        "text": "所有相關法案的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4340.wav",
        "text": "還有一個辦法當然我們可以把它放在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4341.wav",
        "text": "後面我們先討論其他的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4342.wav",
        "text": "在最後快結束時我們再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4343.wav",
        "text": "回到這個案子這樣也是一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4344.wav",
        "text": "但是我們如果一直卡在這裡逐條下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4345.wav",
        "text": "我們後面所有的法律案顯然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4346.wav",
        "text": "今天時間是不夠的我要特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4347.wav",
        "text": "呼籲大家一下\n好請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4348.wav",
        "text": "你現在這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4349.wav",
        "text": "還比較有道理啊剛才就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4350.wav",
        "text": "好那就送去表決因為剛才已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4351.wav",
        "text": "把爭點快要整理出來嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4352.wav",
        "text": "285億政府花300億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4353.wav",
        "text": "到底哪一個地方有差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4354.wav",
        "text": "政府的所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4355.wav",
        "text": "都下去嘛所以應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4356.wav",
        "text": "針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4357.wav",
        "text": "你的爭點在哪裡列幾個出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4358.wav",
        "text": "大家針對那個來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4359.wav",
        "text": "只是我希望這個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4360.wav",
        "text": "之後還有很多法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4361.wav",
        "text": "如果我們卡在這裡的話其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4362.wav",
        "text": "法案就全面沒有辦法討論了我只是建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4363.wav",
        "text": "至於你們決定怎麼樣我完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4364.wav",
        "text": "尊重\n請傅崐萁總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4365.wav",
        "text": "我要特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4366.wav",
        "text": "強調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4367.wav",
        "text": "臺南的重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4368.wav",
        "text": "所有的老百姓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4369.wav",
        "text": "地震後通通重建完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4370.wav",
        "text": "災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4371.wav",
        "text": "285億是公共建設都在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4372.wav",
        "text": "我要把它拉回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4373.wav",
        "text": "我們這個案子就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4374.wav",
        "text": "99.2億而且都是政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4375.wav",
        "text": "匡列在兩個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4376.wav",
        "text": "一個項目叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4377.wav",
        "text": "我再念一次他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4378.wav",
        "text": "還聽不懂我再念一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4379.wav",
        "text": "我聽不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4380.wav",
        "text": "現在這個條例匡列的就是99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4381.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼500億300億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4382.wav",
        "text": "再強調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4383.wav",
        "text": "這是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4384.wav",
        "text": "中央已核定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4385.wav",
        "text": "民防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4386.wav",
        "text": "災損安置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4387.wav",
        "text": "及重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4388.wav",
        "text": "58.4億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4389.wav",
        "text": "產業振興40.8億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4390.wav",
        "text": "這是中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4391.wav",
        "text": "匡列的兩大項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4392.wav",
        "text": "總共99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4393.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛念過一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4394.wav",
        "text": "我再念一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4395.wav",
        "text": "所以這個條例現在就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4396.wav",
        "text": "99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4397.wav",
        "text": "它主要的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4398.wav",
        "text": "就是讓這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4399.wav",
        "text": "屋倒的災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4400.wav",
        "text": "能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4401.wav",
        "text": "重建完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4402.wav",
        "text": "40.8億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4403.wav",
        "text": "有怎麼樣的力道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4404.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4405.wav",
        "text": "跟整個受災的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4406.wav",
        "text": "應該行政院要有具體的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4407.wav",
        "text": "跟地方去談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4408.wav",
        "text": "才能夠帶動起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4409.wav",
        "text": "這都是跟地方去談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4410.wav",
        "text": "但是希望他們跟地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4411.wav",
        "text": "合起來去把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4412.wav",
        "text": "產業振興起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4413.wav",
        "text": "這是行政院的項目就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4414.wav",
        "text": "振興產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4415.wav",
        "text": "那你到底做到振興沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4416.wav",
        "text": "數字已經在講話了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4417.wav",
        "text": "是不是要跟地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4418.wav",
        "text": "有一個充分的溝通來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4419.wav",
        "text": "另外就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4420.wav",
        "text": "58.4億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4421.wav",
        "text": "這個行政院匡列的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4422.wav",
        "text": "給災民重建的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4423.wav",
        "text": "災民民宅災損的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4424.wav",
        "text": "要重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4425.wav",
        "text": "現在其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4426.wav",
        "text": "我們的爭點就只有這一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4427.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4428.wav",
        "text": "一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4429.wav",
        "text": "他就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4430.wav",
        "text": "政府有在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4431.wav",
        "text": "只是他的力道不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4432.wav",
        "text": "我再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4433.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4434.wav",
        "text": "因為過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4435.wav",
        "text": "你讓我一次講完好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4436.wav",
        "text": "你讓我一次講完好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4437.wav",
        "text": "這樣才對焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4438.wav",
        "text": "你現在是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4439.wav",
        "text": "這裡面有一個58.4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4440.wav",
        "text": "億40.8億是產業振興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4441.wav",
        "text": "另外是民防災害損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4442.wav",
        "text": "重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4443.wav",
        "text": "這兩條加起來總共99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4444.wav",
        "text": "這兩個加起來99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4445.wav",
        "text": "你全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4446.wav",
        "text": "你不要做其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4447.wav",
        "text": "就是這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4448.wav",
        "text": "那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4449.wav",
        "text": "現在已經在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4450.wav",
        "text": "是屋倒的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4451.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4452.wav",
        "text": "40.8億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4453.wav",
        "text": "是產業振興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4454.wav",
        "text": "它錢沒有花完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4455.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4456.wav",
        "text": "我要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4457.wav",
        "text": "他們兩樣都在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4458.wav",
        "text": "但是力道不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4459.wav",
        "text": "不足的話它錢都沒有用完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4460.wav",
        "text": "錢都沒有用完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4461.wav",
        "text": "現在就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4462.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4463.wav",
        "text": "也不是新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4464.wav",
        "text": "我來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4465.wav",
        "text": "我來釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4466.wav",
        "text": "花蓮大家一起幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4467.wav",
        "text": "現在就是說200"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4468.wav",
        "text": "啦政府現在花了300"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4469.wav",
        "text": "不到位嘛我一直聽到你講不到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4470.wav",
        "text": "那不到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4471.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4472.wav",
        "text": "我要回復到還沒有地震以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4473.wav",
        "text": "興盛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4474.wav",
        "text": "還沒有地震以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4475.wav",
        "text": "那樣的一個盛況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4476.wav",
        "text": "這個也都可以明講這第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4477.wav",
        "text": "可是我又聽你講的是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4478.wav",
        "text": "不到位錢還沒有花下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4479.wav",
        "text": "你想要政府再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4480.wav",
        "text": "花什麼下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4481.wav",
        "text": "這第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4482.wav",
        "text": "那這個就是產業振興的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4483.wav",
        "text": "我好像又聽出你欲言又止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4484.wav",
        "text": "又不好意思明講你就明講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4485.wav",
        "text": "譬如說我的房子全倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4486.wav",
        "text": "房子倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4487.wav",
        "text": "有可能是新的房子倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4488.wav",
        "text": "也有可能舊的房子倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4489.wav",
        "text": "你就講出你的真意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4490.wav",
        "text": "這樣才有辦法來聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4491.wav",
        "text": "啦你的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4492.wav",
        "text": "不管是新房子倒了還是舊房子倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4493.wav",
        "text": "政府你就要蓋給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4494.wav",
        "text": "明講你也可以講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4495.wav",
        "text": "你給我蓋好我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4496.wav",
        "text": "原來是舊房子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4497.wav",
        "text": "大家再來講說那可能我政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4498.wav",
        "text": "該賠你多少錢才算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4499.wav",
        "text": "到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4500.wav",
        "text": "院長也是幹過市長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4501.wav",
        "text": "他一定很容易可以整理爭點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4502.wav",
        "text": "就明講沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4503.wav",
        "text": "不然你就講一個不到位我們這些要幫你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4504.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4505.wav",
        "text": "黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4506.wav",
        "text": "接下來是吳思瑤委員發言請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4507.wav",
        "text": "其實我條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4508.wav",
        "text": "都看過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4509.wav",
        "text": "我就舉兩個條文應當是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4510.wav",
        "text": "條例的關鍵條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4511.wav",
        "text": "就是第7條跟第9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4512.wav",
        "text": "剛剛傅總召您說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4513.wav",
        "text": "條例裡頭有明寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4514.wav",
        "text": "預算額度是99億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4515.wav",
        "text": "2,000萬沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4516.wav",
        "text": "這是唯一出現在條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4517.wav",
        "text": "有具體數字的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4518.wav",
        "text": "但是您的第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4519.wav",
        "text": "第1項第1款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4520.wav",
        "text": "您的說法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4521.wav",
        "text": "對不起是國民黨版的說法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4522.wav",
        "text": "各機關應於總預算範圍內且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4523.wav",
        "text": "不低於新臺幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4524.wav",
        "text": "地板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4525.wav",
        "text": "不是天花板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4526.wav",
        "text": "所以說這個條例本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4527.wav",
        "text": "包括後面有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4528.wav",
        "text": "可能是貸款的支出可能是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4529.wav",
        "text": "保險的支出可能是就學的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4530.wav",
        "text": "可能是醫療協助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4531.wav",
        "text": "支出還有很大一項就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4532.wav",
        "text": "對於重建的支出是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4533.wav",
        "text": "列在這裡面的它是額外要花的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4534.wav",
        "text": "是在其他的條文裡面沒有算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4535.wav",
        "text": "不低於99.2億換言之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4536.wav",
        "text": "它確實會到300億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4537.wav",
        "text": "或者有可能到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4538.wav",
        "text": "更高的金額達到您覺得要到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4539.wav",
        "text": "的那個標準所以就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4540.wav",
        "text": "條文而言我是看國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4541.wav",
        "text": "版的條文具體說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4542.wav",
        "text": "是不低於新臺幣九十九億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4543.wav",
        "text": "二千萬元然後本於哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4544.wav",
        "text": "預算項目來支出這是第一個關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4545.wav",
        "text": "條文\n第二個關鍵條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4546.wav",
        "text": "在第9條剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4547.wav",
        "text": "瑞雄委員在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4548.wav",
        "text": "那傅總召你就明講嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4549.wav",
        "text": "要做什麼你覺得要為災區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4550.wav",
        "text": "的人民再多爭取什麼就明講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4551.wav",
        "text": "其實條文就寫在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4552.wav",
        "text": "瑞雄你可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4553.wav",
        "text": "條文就寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4554.wav",
        "text": "第9條說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4555.wav",
        "text": "住戶房屋因地震毀損不堪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4556.wav",
        "text": "居住經認定為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4557.wav",
        "text": "黃單紅單之房屋其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4558.wav",
        "text": "拆除去化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4559.wav",
        "text": "整建及重建之費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4560.wav",
        "text": "由中央政府全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4561.wav",
        "text": "額負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4562.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有計入剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4563.wav",
        "text": "說的99.2億裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4564.wav",
        "text": "喔這就是一個關鍵條文是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4565.wav",
        "text": "extra而且是從以前到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4566.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有發生過臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4567.wav",
        "text": "任何的災害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4568.wav",
        "text": "不管是紅單黃單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4569.wav",
        "text": "的拆除去化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4570.wav",
        "text": "整建及重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4571.wav",
        "text": "由中央政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4572.wav",
        "text": "全額負擔不管它是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4573.wav",
        "text": "新的房子舊的房子或者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4574.wav",
        "text": "是不是過去就有一些建商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4575.wav",
        "text": "是不良建商蓋的不好的房子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4576.wav",
        "text": "這條才是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4577.wav",
        "text": "我們就必須看它合理或不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4578.wav",
        "text": "\n我們回到救災的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4579.wav",
        "text": "精神重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4580.wav",
        "text": "費用的支出對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4581.wav",
        "text": "災民的補貼應當用於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4582.wav",
        "text": "符合公共利益有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4583.wav",
        "text": "合理的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4584.wav",
        "text": "而不是完全去填補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4585.wav",
        "text": "震災產生的人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4586.wav",
        "text": "每一項的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4587.wav",
        "text": "財產損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4588.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4589.wav",
        "text": "所以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4590.wav",
        "text": "現在的災害防救法也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4591.wav",
        "text": "有任何一個條文說只要哪個地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4592.wav",
        "text": "發生了然後政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4593.wav",
        "text": "而且是中央政府喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4594.wav",
        "text": "中央政府全額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4595.wav",
        "text": "買單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4596.wav",
        "text": "政府有可能或者是未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4597.wav",
        "text": "某一個颱風來了家裡有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4598.wav",
        "text": "因為怎麼樣漏水的全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4599.wav",
        "text": "由中央政府全額來替你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4600.wav",
        "text": "整建這個政府做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4601.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4602.wav",
        "text": "第7條跟第9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4603.wav",
        "text": "是關鍵的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4604.wav",
        "text": "而它就相當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4605.wav",
        "text": "不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4606.wav",
        "text": "所以我是真的很具體的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4607.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4608.wav",
        "text": "還有傅委員認為花蓮在哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4609.wav",
        "text": "重建的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4610.wav",
        "text": "政府做得不夠到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4611.wav",
        "text": "哪些災民的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4612.wav",
        "text": "還沒有被政府關照到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4613.wav",
        "text": "其實我們立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4614.wav",
        "text": "特別專案報告可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4615.wav",
        "text": "或是在委員會的專案報告也安排過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4616.wav",
        "text": "經過一百零天的重建有哪些確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4617.wav",
        "text": "現階段應該予以檢討來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4618.wav",
        "text": "看重建一百零天後的檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4619.wav",
        "text": "這是立法委員的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4620.wav",
        "text": "可以透過排案方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4621.wav",
        "text": "要求各部會來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4622.wav",
        "text": "哪些真的配合不夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4623.wav",
        "text": "就來處理哪些預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4624.wav",
        "text": "還不足的大家一起來爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4625.wav",
        "text": "這一次中央政府是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4626.wav",
        "text": "很快很快速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4627.wav",
        "text": "的進到災區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4628.wav",
        "text": "而且行政院還成立了花蓮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4629.wav",
        "text": "重建專案辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4630.wav",
        "text": "這是中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4631.wav",
        "text": "直接在那裡設一個辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4632.wav",
        "text": "就近協助所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4633.wav",
        "text": "災區的需要我相信跟花蓮縣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4634.wav",
        "text": "也一定有很多很綿密的合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4635.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再次說院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4636.wav",
        "text": "是8點53分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4637.wav",
        "text": "一個條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4638.wav",
        "text": "我們只討論了一個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4639.wav",
        "text": "它是逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4640.wav",
        "text": "就要院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4641.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得要深思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4642.wav",
        "text": "現在顯然各政黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4643.wav",
        "text": "都沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4644.wav",
        "text": "沒關係啦院長我再做一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4645.wav",
        "text": "完整的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4646.wav",
        "text": "因為我每次講很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4647.wav",
        "text": "我都要重複重複重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4648.wav",
        "text": "我再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4649.wav",
        "text": "他非常重視這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4650.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4651.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4652.wav",
        "text": "一定要把這個事情扭曲到這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4653.wav",
        "text": "那我就要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4654.wav",
        "text": "我們可以把它寫成上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4655.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4656.wav",
        "text": "不要把這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4657.wav",
        "text": "故意無限放大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4658.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4659.wav",
        "text": "上限是這個沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4660.wav",
        "text": "另外我要特別講第9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4661.wav",
        "text": "你們要選縣市長的都要聽好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4662.wav",
        "text": "地方總預算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4663.wav",
        "text": "叫做災害準備金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4664.wav",
        "text": "中央的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4665.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4666.wav",
        "text": "災害準備金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4667.wav",
        "text": "地方發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4668.wav",
        "text": "天然災害的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4669.wav",
        "text": "1%的錢用完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4670.wav",
        "text": "就由中央來支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4671.wav",
        "text": "我要講給他們聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4672.wav",
        "text": "這些東西的運輸等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4673.wav",
        "text": "剛剛他們講的那些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4674.wav",
        "text": "都是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4675.wav",
        "text": "來支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4676.wav",
        "text": "我先告訴你是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4677.wav",
        "text": "就是剛剛柯總召講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4678.wav",
        "text": "政府要不要完全蓋給災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4679.wav",
        "text": "我從剛剛到現在都說可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4680.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4681.wav",
        "text": "的救濟力道就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4682.wav",
        "text": "不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4683.wav",
        "text": "12萬一坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4684.wav",
        "text": "然後一戶人家最多三十坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4685.wav",
        "text": "他連貸款都沒有辦法還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4686.wav",
        "text": "啦所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4687.wav",
        "text": "可以救助到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4688.wav",
        "text": "大家講嘛不要百分之百"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4689.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題啊條例就是要談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4690.wav",
        "text": "同理心來看這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4691.wav",
        "text": "同理心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4692.wav",
        "text": "衛福部只要出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4693.wav",
        "text": "成立專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4694.wav",
        "text": "專案的錢就是撥到地方政府去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4695.wav",
        "text": "因為大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4696.wav",
        "text": "捐錢是為了救災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4697.wav",
        "text": "不是救政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4698.wav",
        "text": "差額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4699.wav",
        "text": "衛福部這一次是把專案的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4700.wav",
        "text": "撥到其他部會去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4701.wav",
        "text": "其他部會本來就有錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4702.wav",
        "text": "編預算就有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4703.wav",
        "text": "它不是編285"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4704.wav",
        "text": "億嗎它把這些錢弄到各部會去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4705.wav",
        "text": "實際操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4706.wav",
        "text": "0206大地震時也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4707.wav",
        "text": "撥到地方政府就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4708.wav",
        "text": "衛福部拿了就是撥到地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4709.wav",
        "text": "政府那個錢就是來幫助災民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4710.wav",
        "text": "我們4棟大樓全部都蓋好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4711.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣\n這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4712.wav",
        "text": "你們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4713.wav",
        "text": "12萬一坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4714.wav",
        "text": "然後只能三十坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4715.wav",
        "text": "問題是這些人連房貸都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4716.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法繳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4717.wav",
        "text": "因為整個貸款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4718.wav",
        "text": "現在是政府先擋住讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4719.wav",
        "text": "他們在一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4720.wav",
        "text": "可以不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4721.wav",
        "text": "不然現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4722.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4723.wav",
        "text": "他們兩位都說不可以所以我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4724.wav",
        "text": "可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4725.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們百分比願意到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4726.wav",
        "text": "但不是要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4727.wav",
        "text": "我不得不處置好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4728.wav",
        "text": "請柯總召再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4729.wav",
        "text": "快要接近了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4730.wav",
        "text": "談不來再講嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4731.wav",
        "text": "你的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4732.wav",
        "text": "講明了就是全倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4733.wav",
        "text": "可不可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4734.wav",
        "text": "沒有人這樣搞過嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4735.wav",
        "text": "然後你這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4736.wav",
        "text": "預算匡在99.2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4737.wav",
        "text": "要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4738.wav",
        "text": "是匡在這裡面嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4739.wav",
        "text": "58億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4740.wav",
        "text": "你有第7條再修正版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4741.wav",
        "text": "沒錯啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4742.wav",
        "text": "再修正啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4743.wav",
        "text": "就匡99.2億嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4744.wav",
        "text": "你剛才一開始也這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4745.wav",
        "text": "我們就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4746.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4747.wav",
        "text": "變成不低於嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4748.wav",
        "text": "也可以99.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4749.wav",
        "text": "為上限也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4750.wav",
        "text": "剛才吳思瑤講說會有膨脹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4751.wav",
        "text": "你說沒有沒有就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4752.wav",
        "text": "這樣也比較好處理事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4753.wav",
        "text": "對不對排除流用的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4754.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4755.wav",
        "text": "號預算是會匡在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4756.wav",
        "text": "但是不可以喬來喬去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4757.wav",
        "text": "不可以挪來挪去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4758.wav",
        "text": "這是違憲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4759.wav",
        "text": "這部分大家要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4760.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4761.wav",
        "text": "那我們就院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4762.wav",
        "text": "如果他們覺得違憲不是啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4763.wav",
        "text": "行政部門同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4764.wav",
        "text": "就比較不會違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4765.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有話講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4766.wav",
        "text": "國土署說我就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4767.wav",
        "text": "部門只要同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4768.wav",
        "text": "兩位總召讓我先宣布一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4769.wav",
        "text": "讓國土署署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4770.wav",
        "text": "各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4771.wav",
        "text": "列席委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4772.wav",
        "text": "現在報告的是內政部國土署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4773.wav",
        "text": "吳署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4774.wav",
        "text": "之前臺南0206"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4775.wav",
        "text": "的也講一下我當時是負責重建的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4776.wav",
        "text": "都發局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4777.wav",
        "text": "在臺南0206所收的42億善款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4778.wav",
        "text": "因為當時每一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4779.wav",
        "text": "所有大樓的重建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4780.wav",
        "text": "大概都有定一個上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4781.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4782.wav",
        "text": "徵收的重建價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4783.wav",
        "text": "按照樓層數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4784.wav",
        "text": "它有不同的價格去定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4785.wav",
        "text": "那也一樣定上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4786.wav",
        "text": "因為我們當地也有人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4787.wav",
        "text": "是一人擁有多戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4788.wav",
        "text": "所以就會用總坪數作為上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4789.wav",
        "text": "以免買越多戶的人領越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4790.wav",
        "text": "以賑災的公益性來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4791.wav",
        "text": "其實比較不吻合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4792.wav",
        "text": "所以才會定上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4793.wav",
        "text": "那這一次在花蓮的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4794.wav",
        "text": "我們也援引同樣的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4795.wav",
        "text": "一樣以花蓮地區所在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4796.wav",
        "text": "來做一個上限值的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4797.wav",
        "text": "那也一樣訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4798.wav",
        "text": "做這樣的概念的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4799.wav",
        "text": "因為這裡面所用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4800.wav",
        "text": "很多都是賑災的善款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4801.wav",
        "text": "也就是民間捐助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4802.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要考慮社會的觀感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4803.wav",
        "text": "跟社會的公益性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4804.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4805.wav",
        "text": "的確我們都必須要訂定一個上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4806.wav",
        "text": "而不是全部去談這樣的一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4807.wav",
        "text": "所以我先把過去的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4808.wav",
        "text": "做這樣的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4809.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個就是說對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4810.wav",
        "text": "大概也有做一個調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4811.wav",
        "text": "那也大概初步瞭解他們的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4812.wav",
        "text": "還有舊貸跟新貸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4813.wav",
        "text": "那因為過去在921跟莫拉克風災來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4814.wav",
        "text": "它的作法並不一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4815.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分當然是最後在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4816.wav",
        "text": "整合的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4817.wav",
        "text": "如果最後還有舊貸新貸的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4818.wav",
        "text": "那我們後面在重建的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4819.wav",
        "text": "會再去委員會提一個相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4820.wav",
        "text": "整合辦法到時候或許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4821.wav",
        "text": "做一個整合的協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4822.wav",
        "text": "我想這是第二個\n第三個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4823.wav",
        "text": "在所謂的重建過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4824.wav",
        "text": "其實因為在花蓮地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4825.wav",
        "text": "這裡有都援引的都更跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4826.wav",
        "text": "危老那都更是有容積獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4827.wav",
        "text": "的也就是說未來興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4828.wav",
        "text": "興建的坪數可以變多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4829.wav",
        "text": "以受災戶來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4830.wav",
        "text": "這是未來可以出售的也就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4831.wav",
        "text": "經過出售以後他所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4832.wav",
        "text": "獲得的一些金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4833.wav",
        "text": "他還可以抵付他興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4834.wav",
        "text": "來降低他的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4835.wav",
        "text": "臺南的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4836.wav",
        "text": "到現在都用同樣的標準在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4837.wav",
        "text": "這樣的方式所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4838.wav",
        "text": "透過都更的話他還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4839.wav",
        "text": "額外的一個收入來降低他的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4840.wav",
        "text": "吳署長現在可能傅總召跟各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4841.wav",
        "text": "心中的疑點就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4842.wav",
        "text": "我們0206的上限是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4843.wav",
        "text": "現在花蓮0403的上限是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4844.wav",
        "text": "這一點可能要麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4845.wav",
        "text": "是跟委員報告其實上限值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4846.wav",
        "text": "都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4847.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4848.wav",
        "text": "都是12萬30坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4849.wav",
        "text": "因為臺南的平均坪數比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4850.wav",
        "text": "我們當然是用它的平均坪數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4851.wav",
        "text": "所以是用平均坪數去算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4852.wav",
        "text": "但是臺南的上限也是只有420萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4853.wav",
        "text": "臺南的平均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4854.wav",
        "text": "因為倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4855.wav",
        "text": "房子坪數都比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4856.wav",
        "text": "所以花蓮就是用30坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4857.wav",
        "text": "做平均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4858.wav",
        "text": "是因為花蓮倒的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4859.wav",
        "text": "現在我們非常感謝國土署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4860.wav",
        "text": "吳署長的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4861.wav",
        "text": "讓我們心中很多疑問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4862.wav",
        "text": "可以解開來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4863.wav",
        "text": "傅總召如果各位黨團幹部沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4864.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4865.wav",
        "text": "我想我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4866.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4867.wav",
        "text": "2016年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4868.wav",
        "text": "跟2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4869.wav",
        "text": "我就舉個例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4870.wav",
        "text": "在2016年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4871.wav",
        "text": "那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4872.wav",
        "text": "公共工程委員會公告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4873.wav",
        "text": "單價成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4874.wav",
        "text": "大概在11萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4875.wav",
        "text": "而且11萬已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4876.wav",
        "text": "那個時候9萬10萬都可以標得出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4877.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有18萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4878.wav",
        "text": "以上根本就標不出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4879.wav",
        "text": "我就舉花蓮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4880.wav",
        "text": "現在的公共住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4881.wav",
        "text": "1坪將近要19萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4882.wav",
        "text": "才標出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4883.wav",
        "text": "12萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4884.wav",
        "text": "他們當時是12萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4885.wav",
        "text": "公共工程委員會才11萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4886.wav",
        "text": "而他們是12萬那個當然是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4887.wav",
        "text": "很好的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4888.wav",
        "text": "你看公共工程委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4889.wav",
        "text": "2016年是什麼價格現在是多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4890.wav",
        "text": "現在的公共住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4891.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4892.wav",
        "text": "由內政部自己招標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4893.wav",
        "text": "所以把2016年的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4894.wav",
        "text": "拿來2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4895.wav",
        "text": "物價上漲翻了多少倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4896.wav",
        "text": "對所以可以來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4897.wav",
        "text": "我覺得沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4898.wav",
        "text": "現在大概19萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4899.wav",
        "text": "差了7萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4900.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4901.wav",
        "text": "嘛你願意補助到19萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4902.wav",
        "text": "我們直接把這中間明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4903.wav",
        "text": "把政府全額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4904.wav",
        "text": "就1坪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4905.wav",
        "text": "補助你19萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4906.wav",
        "text": "以公共工程委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4907.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅的決標價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4908.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4909.wav",
        "text": "也沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4910.wav",
        "text": "就是大家說清楚就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4911.wav",
        "text": "倒掉沒有賠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4912.wav",
        "text": "他現在本身就有補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4913.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4914.wav",
        "text": "已經差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4915.wav",
        "text": "我們現在已經差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4916.wav",
        "text": "已經差不多了你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4917.wav",
        "text": "了你又要把它斷掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4918.wav",
        "text": "以後要再重起爐灶何其困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4919.wav",
        "text": "好我們現在休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4920.wav",
        "text": "我要開始處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4921.wav",
        "text": "向各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4922.wav",
        "text": "現在內政部國土署的署本部正在草擬一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4923.wav",
        "text": "雙方可以接受的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4924.wav",
        "text": "他們現在正在草擬文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4925.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在就繼續往下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4926.wav",
        "text": "我們先審查下一案公糧收購案我們來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4927.wav",
        "text": "\n看國土署什麼時候交出來在那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4928.wav",
        "text": "資料交出來之後我們大家互相討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4929.wav",
        "text": "我們再回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4930.wav",
        "text": "處理這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4931.wav",
        "text": "我們再回到43賑災重建條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4932.wav",
        "text": "我們進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4933.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4934.wav",
        "text": "列席的閣員以及各位官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4935.wav",
        "text": "我們首先歡迎農業部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4936.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4937.wav",
        "text": "農糧署的陳主秘歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4938.wav",
        "text": "農糧署的陳組長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4939.wav",
        "text": "農糧署的張科長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4940.wav",
        "text": "請坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4941.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4942.wav",
        "text": "向各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4943.wav",
        "text": "我們現在正式來協商公糧收購案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4944.wav",
        "text": "我們開始協商的時候要向大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4945.wav",
        "text": "本院國民黨黨團提案建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4946.wav",
        "text": "請院會作成決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4947.wav",
        "text": "──農業部應調整公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4948.wav",
        "text": "由每公斤26元調整至每公斤34元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4949.wav",
        "text": "提高農民基本利潤請公決案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4950.wav",
        "text": "以及台灣民眾黨黨團所提修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4951.wav",
        "text": "建請院會作成決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4952.wav",
        "text": "要求農業部將公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4953.wav",
        "text": "自每公斤26元調升至31元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4954.wav",
        "text": "並加速提升整體雜糧種植面積之計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4955.wav",
        "text": "請公決案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4956.wav",
        "text": "\n二本案及修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4957.wav",
        "text": "於113年5月14日第1會期第13次院會決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4958.wav",
        "text": "併同交付黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4959.wav",
        "text": "並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4960.wav",
        "text": "\n三本案另經113年6月27日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4961.wav",
        "text": "由楊瓊瓔召委召集黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4962.wav",
        "text": "協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4963.wav",
        "text": "本案及台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4964.wav",
        "text": "所提修正動議一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4965.wav",
        "text": "均保留送交院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4966.wav",
        "text": "本次協商會議針對國民黨黨團提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4967.wav",
        "text": "及台灣民眾黨黨團所提修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4968.wav",
        "text": "進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4969.wav",
        "text": "\n現在先請提案的國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4970.wav",
        "text": "張嘉郡委員請報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4971.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4972.wav",
        "text": "3位總召還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4973.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們會提案呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4974.wav",
        "text": "因為農民真的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4975.wav",
        "text": "而且是最基層最辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4976.wav",
        "text": "他沒有辦法行銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4977.wav",
        "text": "然後沒有辦法做新的作物的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4978.wav",
        "text": "這些農民是最最需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4979.wav",
        "text": "而且這個公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4980.wav",
        "text": "已經13年都沒有調整過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4981.wav",
        "text": "13年前漲了3塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4982.wav",
        "text": "可是13年間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4983.wav",
        "text": "工資漲幅高達53.64%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4984.wav",
        "text": "秧苗由每盤28元上漲到40元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4985.wav",
        "text": "上漲了43%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4986.wav",
        "text": "物價指數上漲超過15%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4987.wav",
        "text": "其他包括農藥包括肥料上漲近25%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4988.wav",
        "text": "農民的耕作成本是不斷增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4989.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛看到農業部給的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4990.wav",
        "text": "就是陳部長給出的這個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4991.wav",
        "text": "我必須講幾句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4992.wav",
        "text": "一就是對於提高公糧收購價格的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4993.wav",
        "text": "陳駿季部長的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4994.wav",
        "text": "也是自相矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4995.wav",
        "text": "他過去還沒有擔任主委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4996.wav",
        "text": "曾說過公糧收購價格與契作價格是連動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4997.wav",
        "text": "公糧價格提高契作價格也會提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4998.wav",
        "text": "這就代表著會照顧到農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/4999.wav",
        "text": "民營糧商收購的價格自然必須要提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5000.wav",
        "text": "以他這樣子的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5001.wav",
        "text": "最後受益的就是最基層的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5002.wav",
        "text": "但現在他當了主委之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5003.wav",
        "text": "他卻告訴我們說提高公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5004.wav",
        "text": "會造成糧價的崩跌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5005.wav",
        "text": "反而會提高收購的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5006.wav",
        "text": "\n所以反而去反對提高收購的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5007.wav",
        "text": "這到底是為了保護農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5008.wav",
        "text": "還是在保護糧商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5009.wav",
        "text": "這讓我不禁質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5010.wav",
        "text": "\n尤其我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5011.wav",
        "text": "包括莊瑞雄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5012.wav",
        "text": "他屏東那邊也種很多稻米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5013.wav",
        "text": "我相信他也很理解農民的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5014.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5015.wav",
        "text": "不是毫無限制的收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5016.wav",
        "text": "因為公糧收購分為計畫收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5017.wav",
        "text": "輔導收購餘糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5018.wav",
        "text": "每一種收購方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5019.wav",
        "text": "都有其限制的量與價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5020.wav",
        "text": "計畫收購價格最高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5021.wav",
        "text": "只占總收購量的三分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5022.wav",
        "text": "輔導價格減3塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5023.wav",
        "text": "餘糧收購又再減二至三元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5024.wav",
        "text": "所以這不是一個毫無節制地收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5025.wav",
        "text": "更重要的是因為是有計畫性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5026.wav",
        "text": "更不可能也不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5027.wav",
        "text": "發生增加百億元經費這個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5028.wav",
        "text": "\n如果以去年收購29.1萬噸的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5029.wav",
        "text": "來算的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5030.wav",
        "text": "提高8塊增加了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5031.wav",
        "text": "大家知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5032.wav",
        "text": "23億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5033.wav",
        "text": "等於跟農業部講的百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5034.wav",
        "text": "是差了將近5倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5035.wav",
        "text": "就算是2012年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5036.wav",
        "text": "那一年收購量比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5037.wav",
        "text": "那一年是45.6萬噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5038.wav",
        "text": "如果以那一年來算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5039.wav",
        "text": "是增加36億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5040.wav",
        "text": "這些錢其實是為了照顧最基層的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5041.wav",
        "text": "因為會繳交公糧的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5042.wav",
        "text": "他們都是沒有能力轉型的弱勢農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5043.wav",
        "text": "部長要鼓勵去契作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5044.wav",
        "text": "去做品牌經營市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5045.wav",
        "text": "這些都是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5046.wav",
        "text": "但是這些最基層的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5047.wav",
        "text": "他只仰賴保價收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5048.wav",
        "text": "當作是他生活的底線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5049.wav",
        "text": "我們今天就是在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5050.wav",
        "text": "為這些最辛苦的農民發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5051.wav",
        "text": "\n第三點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5052.wav",
        "text": "對於農業部剛剛提出的這一本簡報裡面講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5053.wav",
        "text": "最後一頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5054.wav",
        "text": "就是最後幾頁在講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5055.wav",
        "text": "這名字很好聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5056.wav",
        "text": "取得還押韻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5057.wav",
        "text": "我們也贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5058.wav",
        "text": "啊但是1集鼓勵契作2轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5059.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵轉作旱作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5060.wav",
        "text": "這些都不是新的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5061.wav",
        "text": "這都行之有年多久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5062.wav",
        "text": "你們自己說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5063.wav",
        "text": "這些難道是新的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5064.wav",
        "text": "這是長期以來農業部就在推行的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5065.wav",
        "text": "你不能加上一個新的包裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5066.wav",
        "text": "新的名詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5067.wav",
        "text": "就告訴我們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5068.wav",
        "text": "你要用這個取代公糧收購價格提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5069.wav",
        "text": "這就是新的瓶子裝舊的酒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5070.wav",
        "text": "農業部的功能難道只是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5071.wav",
        "text": "換新的形容詞嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5072.wav",
        "text": "換新的形容詞來包裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5073.wav",
        "text": "你們現在在做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5074.wav",
        "text": "而沒有提出真正能夠取代公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5075.wav",
        "text": "收購價格提高的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5076.wav",
        "text": "\n說實在的我也曾經跟陳部長說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5077.wav",
        "text": "假設你真的有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5078.wav",
        "text": "可以取代公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5079.wav",
        "text": "那本席也一定會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5080.wav",
        "text": "因為我也希望我的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5081.wav",
        "text": "我的這些鄉親"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5082.wav",
        "text": "不是生活在最底線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5083.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5084.wav",
        "text": "我也希望他們可以賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5085.wav",
        "text": "啊他們務農如果可以賺大錢的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5086.wav",
        "text": "為什麼他們必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5087.wav",
        "text": "\n我們為什麼推行你們說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5088.wav",
        "text": "這個什麼1集2轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5089.wav",
        "text": "這麼多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5090.wav",
        "text": "還是有很多慣性的農民種水稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5091.wav",
        "text": "有一個原因是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5092.wav",
        "text": "我們現在務農的年齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5093.wav",
        "text": "平均是65歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5094.wav",
        "text": "這些年老弱勢的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5095.wav",
        "text": "他們幾十年來可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5096.wav",
        "text": "就只有種植水稻的經驗與技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5097.wav",
        "text": "你要他們轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5098.wav",
        "text": "作形同逼他們老年轉業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5099.wav",
        "text": "他要會種其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5100.wav",
        "text": "呀你如果要輔導他種其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5101.wav",
        "text": "你的誘因也要夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5102.wav",
        "text": "啊所以提高公糧收購價格的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5103.wav",
        "text": "是在照顧這樣的老農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5104.wav",
        "text": "\n另外一個原因是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5105.wav",
        "text": "獎勵轉作的誘因不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5106.wav",
        "text": "如果這個階段要鼓勵轉作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5107.wav",
        "text": "應該是提高轉作補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5108.wav",
        "text": "而不是去壓下13年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5109.wav",
        "text": "未調整的公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5110.wav",
        "text": "因為在凍漲公糧收購價格的同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5111.wav",
        "text": "也可能壓低了糧商收購的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5112.wav",
        "text": "這對整體的農民是不利的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5113.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5114.wav",
        "text": "那我等一下再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5115.wav",
        "text": "你先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5116.wav",
        "text": "我暫時講到這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5117.wav",
        "text": "讓莊瑞雄委員先講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5118.wav",
        "text": "提案的另外一個政黨先講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5119.wav",
        "text": "我先講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5120.wav",
        "text": "好莊瑞雄委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5121.wav",
        "text": "我是感同身受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5122.wav",
        "text": "因為我來自農業縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5123.wav",
        "text": "這個如果真的可以這樣提的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5124.wav",
        "text": "我經歷過7個行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5125.wav",
        "text": "我早就提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5126.wav",
        "text": "我也擔心這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5127.wav",
        "text": "其實也不是百分之百"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5128.wav",
        "text": "現在九如鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5129.wav",
        "text": "我跟部長很熟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5130.wav",
        "text": "我也不敢跟他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5131.wav",
        "text": "我也不敢這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5132.wav",
        "text": "所以我就一直在想如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5133.wav",
        "text": "如果去提高價格的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5134.wav",
        "text": "確實也會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5135.wav",
        "text": "你這個才占30%提高收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5136.wav",
        "text": "對整個稻米的種植"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5137.wav",
        "text": "我很擔心會有加重它的誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5138.wav",
        "text": "這個也必須要去考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5139.wav",
        "text": "那就變成說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5140.wav",
        "text": "你對民糧的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5141.wav",
        "text": "你現在講的是公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5142.wav",
        "text": "這個觀念我們可以來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5143.wav",
        "text": "實際上你把公糧這樣拉高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5144.wav",
        "text": "我再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5145.wav",
        "text": "這個如果真的可以通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5146.wav",
        "text": "我每一年都敢提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5147.wav",
        "text": "我提對我農業縣一定有加分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5148.wav",
        "text": "但我不提我哪有那麼笨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5149.wav",
        "text": "我真的就是擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5150.wav",
        "text": "因為我是農家子弟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5151.wav",
        "text": "我也不跟你講水資源的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5152.wav",
        "text": "種水稻當然就是水資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5153.wav",
        "text": "啊但我就不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5154.wav",
        "text": "會不會跟工業競爭的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5155.wav",
        "text": "我就不談這些了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5156.wav",
        "text": "產量確實也真的過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5157.wav",
        "text": "產量過剩的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5158.wav",
        "text": "說產量過剩差不多是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5159.wav",
        "text": "嗎變成是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5160.wav",
        "text": "已經產量過剩了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5161.wav",
        "text": "又像我剛剛提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5162.wav",
        "text": "另外70%的民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5163.wav",
        "text": "所以我不敢提的原因在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5164.wav",
        "text": "因為已經產量過剩了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5165.wav",
        "text": "但我現在又把它拉高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5166.wav",
        "text": "會變成連雜糧也不種了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5167.wav",
        "text": "也會有這樣一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5168.wav",
        "text": "十幾年來什麼都波動了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5169.wav",
        "text": "政府要不要當最後面這個莊家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5170.wav",
        "text": "政府做得到當然也很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5171.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得也很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5172.wav",
        "text": "高粱的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5173.wav",
        "text": "或者說大豆的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5174.wav",
        "text": "我們自給率才一成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5175.wav",
        "text": "現在全部都獨厚水稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5176.wav",
        "text": "因為屏東其他作物全部都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5177.wav",
        "text": "嘛我為什麼不敢提獨厚這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5178.wav",
        "text": "會造成臺灣其他糧食自主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5179.wav",
        "text": "國際價格一波動了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5180.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5181.wav",
        "text": "只是我們立法委員感受不到而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5182.wav",
        "text": "整個物價全部都會波動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5183.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5184.wav",
        "text": "我來自農業縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5185.wav",
        "text": "我也很想提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5186.wav",
        "text": "可是我就是這樣把它權衡完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5187.wav",
        "text": "不是因為民進黨在執政我不提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5188.wav",
        "text": "國民黨執政的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5189.wav",
        "text": "我也開始當立委了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5190.wav",
        "text": "我也不敢提啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5191.wav",
        "text": "原因在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5192.wav",
        "text": "所以我的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5193.wav",
        "text": "大家可以再思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5194.wav",
        "text": "請農業部你們也真的再講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5195.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5196.wav",
        "text": "我聽得懂啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5197.wav",
        "text": "我知道你在講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5198.wav",
        "text": "莊委員我覺得你講這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5199.wav",
        "text": "不是完全沒有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5200.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5201.wav",
        "text": "13年前就是我提案的提高了3塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5202.wav",
        "text": "你說的價格壓低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5203.wav",
        "text": "它是曾經發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5204.wav",
        "text": "而且農民都覺得很受益很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5205.wav",
        "text": "我們在講的不是那一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5206.wav",
        "text": "我要講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5207.wav",
        "text": "你那個提高3塊以後會造成怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5208.wav",
        "text": "會有一個惡性循環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5209.wav",
        "text": "每一年都是盛產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5210.wav",
        "text": "每一年都一直過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5211.wav",
        "text": "那我可不可以再另外講一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5212.wav",
        "text": "剛剛他說我們這個都是供過於求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5213.wav",
        "text": "現在國土計畫法要求我們為了糧食安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5214.wav",
        "text": "要畫無限多的農一農二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5215.wav",
        "text": "我們為什麼還要畫這麼多的農地呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5216.wav",
        "text": "超多好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5217.wav",
        "text": "如果把我們雲林的圖拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5218.wav",
        "text": "幾乎都是農一農二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5219.wav",
        "text": "謝謝來自農業縣兩位男女立委好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5220.wav",
        "text": "現在我們接下來請另外一位提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5221.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5222.wav",
        "text": "提出修正動議的黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5223.wav",
        "text": "然後請農業部準備發言謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5224.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5225.wav",
        "text": "張委員很抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5226.wav",
        "text": "他其實很想參加這場協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5227.wav",
        "text": "但他晚上因為有早就答應的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5228.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有辦法趕過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5229.wav",
        "text": "\n基本上我們是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5230.wav",
        "text": "因為從2011年到現在已經13年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5231.wav",
        "text": "中間這段時間的物價大幅上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5232.wav",
        "text": "包括人工肥料農業資材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5233.wav",
        "text": "因此我們考慮了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5234.wav",
        "text": "包括各項成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5235.wav",
        "text": "人工肥料還有物價指數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5236.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的提案內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5237.wav",
        "text": "並沒有像中國國民黨那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5238.wav",
        "text": "我們提案的是把公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5239.wav",
        "text": "目前的26元再調升5元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5240.wav",
        "text": "上一次調公糧價格是13年前了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5241.wav",
        "text": "是2011年吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5242.wav",
        "text": "對嘛2011年是13年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5243.wav",
        "text": "前以上先簡要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5244.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5245.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5246.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請農業部陳部長請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5247.wav",
        "text": "主席還有我們各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5248.wav",
        "text": "首先還是感謝所有委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5249.wav",
        "text": "對農業議題的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5250.wav",
        "text": "提出非常高度的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5251.wav",
        "text": "不只是在座的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5252.wav",
        "text": "跟我們農業部是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5253.wav",
        "text": "我們共同的目標就是希望能夠確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5254.wav",
        "text": "我們農民的所得是提高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5255.wav",
        "text": "甚至於是確保的在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5256.wav",
        "text": "這個目標的一致之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5257.wav",
        "text": "我們再開始去思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5258.wav",
        "text": "到底用什麼樣的策略方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5259.wav",
        "text": "或是手段或是措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5260.wav",
        "text": "能夠達成這樣的一個目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5261.wav",
        "text": "\n以國民黨團跟民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5262.wav",
        "text": "就是要求我們農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5263.wav",
        "text": "調高公糧收購價格8塊或5塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5264.wav",
        "text": "這是一個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5265.wav",
        "text": "我們也提出了一個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5266.wav",
        "text": "這兩個方法最大的不一樣就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5267.wav",
        "text": "直接提高的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5268.wav",
        "text": "是非常直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5269.wav",
        "text": "也許農民馬上有感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5270.wav",
        "text": "但是它是一個強心針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5271.wav",
        "text": "以過去的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5272.wav",
        "text": "每次提高公糧的當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5273.wav",
        "text": "絕對有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5274.wav",
        "text": "可是因為公糧價格提高的那個誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5275.wav",
        "text": "會讓更多農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5276.wav",
        "text": "本來種別的作物的就會去種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5277.wav",
        "text": "水稻面積就會慢慢成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5278.wav",
        "text": "整個稻穀產量變多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5279.wav",
        "text": "因為公糧收購還是有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5280.wav",
        "text": "大部分還是民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5281.wav",
        "text": "所以民糧的部分就會往下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5282.wav",
        "text": "對於稻農本身的收益並不是有利的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5283.wav",
        "text": "因此農業部提出的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5284.wav",
        "text": "來支撐農民的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5285.wav",
        "text": "這兩個等一下我會去講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5286.wav",
        "text": "\n各位是不是可以請翻開簡報第2頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5287.wav",
        "text": "我簡單地說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5288.wav",
        "text": "如果提高了公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5289.wav",
        "text": "整個稻穀的收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5290.wav",
        "text": "30%是繳公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5291.wav",
        "text": "70%是繳民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5292.wav",
        "text": "只是30%的農民受益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5293.wav",
        "text": "70%的農民並沒有直接受益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5294.wav",
        "text": "他倚賴的就是民糧跟著提高他才會受益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5295.wav",
        "text": "但是民糧我剛才說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5296.wav",
        "text": "面積一提高的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5297.wav",
        "text": "它就不一定會跟著正成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5298.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5299.wav",
        "text": "\n然後第二個部分請看第3頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5300.wav",
        "text": "這個就是很明顯的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5301.wav",
        "text": "在100年的時候提高了公糧價格以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5302.wav",
        "text": "它的價格的確是提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5303.wav",
        "text": "可是後續它就往下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5304.wav",
        "text": "甚至到109年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5305.wav",
        "text": "那個土黃色的柱狀圖就是公糧收購的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5306.wav",
        "text": "就會跑去繳公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5307.wav",
        "text": "了這反而是對產業結構不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5308.wav",
        "text": "我們在100年開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5309.wav",
        "text": "所以在這樣一個因素之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5310.wav",
        "text": "各位請看第4頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5311.wav",
        "text": "這是我們最擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5312.wav",
        "text": "到產業去瞭解了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5313.wav",
        "text": "因為稻作也有它的產業鏈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5314.wav",
        "text": "包括秧苗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5315.wav",
        "text": "包括資材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5316.wav",
        "text": "包括肥料的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5317.wav",
        "text": "很多人就在等著公糧價格的提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5318.wav",
        "text": "因為一提高的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5319.wav",
        "text": "他們整個費用也會跟著提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5320.wav",
        "text": "因為公糧提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5321.wav",
        "text": "因為公糧提高的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5322.wav",
        "text": "這會被稀釋掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5323.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5324.wav",
        "text": "生產成本的提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5325.wav",
        "text": "並不是只有水稻產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5326.wav",
        "text": "還有其他產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5327.wav",
        "text": "是因為他們想辦法提升他們的生產效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5328.wav",
        "text": "來支撐這個產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5329.wav",
        "text": "提高了公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5330.wav",
        "text": "帶動整個生產成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5331.wav",
        "text": "也會波及到其他產業的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5332.wav",
        "text": "對其他產業來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5333.wav",
        "text": "它沒有辦法享受到公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5334.wav",
        "text": "整體產業的成本提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5335.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5336.wav",
        "text": "我們目前在評估的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5337.wav",
        "text": "可能的負面影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5338.wav",
        "text": "因為我一開始就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5339.wav",
        "text": "它是一個選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5340.wav",
        "text": "那到底是不是一個最好的選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5341.wav",
        "text": "我們根據這樣的一個分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5342.wav",
        "text": "發現其實它不是一個最好的選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5343.wav",
        "text": "要確保農民所得提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5344.wav",
        "text": "第一個一定要確保面積"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5345.wav",
        "text": "面積拉高產量過剩的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5346.wav",
        "text": "永遠沒辦法去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5347.wav",
        "text": "24萬公頃是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5348.wav",
        "text": "在這個面積之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5349.wav",
        "text": "我們設計了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5350.wav",
        "text": "叫做1集2轉3加3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5351.wav",
        "text": "剛才張嘉郡委員提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5352.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯很多老農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5353.wav",
        "text": "是個體戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5354.wav",
        "text": "大概就是只能繳公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5355.wav",
        "text": "因為老農也不是親自去種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5356.wav",
        "text": "打個電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5357.wav",
        "text": "就好說實在的是打電話種水稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5358.wav",
        "text": "因為有很好的代耕系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5359.wav",
        "text": "就是如果我今天有一甲地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5360.wav",
        "text": "打個電話以後就有人去耕作了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5361.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望引導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5362.wav",
        "text": "這些代耕業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5363.wav",
        "text": "變成一個集團產區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5364.wav",
        "text": "變成集團經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5365.wav",
        "text": "根據過往的例子集團經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5366.wav",
        "text": "就是用優質的米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5367.wav",
        "text": "去做品牌行銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5368.wav",
        "text": "我們一定負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5369.wav",
        "text": "想辦法引導他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5370.wav",
        "text": "變成集團栽培的一份子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5371.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5372.wav",
        "text": "我們給他一個獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5373.wav",
        "text": "每公頃從9,000塊變成1萬3,000塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5374.wav",
        "text": "這雖然是原來的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5375.wav",
        "text": "但是我們有加碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5376.wav",
        "text": "銷路也是要去拓展的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5377.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也會獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5378.wav",
        "text": "他的銷路這一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5379.wav",
        "text": "\n2轉的部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5380.wav",
        "text": "從水稻轉成雜糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5381.wav",
        "text": "因為我們雜糧的自給率非常低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5382.wav",
        "text": "有一個部分非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5383.wav",
        "text": "我要跟主席跟各位員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5384.wav",
        "text": "就是我們的高鐵沿線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5385.wav",
        "text": "因為地層下陷的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5386.wav",
        "text": "我們一直希望它不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5387.wav",
        "text": "種水稻能夠轉作旱作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5388.wav",
        "text": "在轉作旱作的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5389.wav",
        "text": "我們會發給節水獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5390.wav",
        "text": "本來是3萬塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5391.wav",
        "text": "現在我們提高到5萬塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5392.wav",
        "text": "也增加了2萬塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5393.wav",
        "text": "因為水稻農民會賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5394.wav",
        "text": "的大概是一期作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5395.wav",
        "text": "二期作的收益會比較低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5396.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5397.wav",
        "text": "不種稻的話我會給予一些獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5398.wav",
        "text": "農民再配合其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5399.wav",
        "text": "他們就會有系統的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5400.wav",
        "text": "\n最後3加3的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5401.wav",
        "text": "就是我們用這樣一個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5402.wav",
        "text": "很負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5403.wav",
        "text": "在提高3塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5404.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5405.wav",
        "text": "用這樣一個方式可以讓產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5406.wav",
        "text": "持續地進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5407.wav",
        "text": "而且讓農民也能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5408.wav",
        "text": "跟著受益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5409.wav",
        "text": "而不是用一劑強心針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5410.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5411.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5412.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請張嘉郡委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5413.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5414.wav",
        "text": "的陳部長也是農業專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5415.wav",
        "text": "也非常的認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5416.wav",
        "text": "但是有幾件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5417.wav",
        "text": "他剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5418.wav",
        "text": "本席完全不能認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5419.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5420.wav",
        "text": "他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5421.wav",
        "text": "帶動產業鏈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5422.wav",
        "text": "成本上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5423.wav",
        "text": "今天就是因為產業鏈成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5424.wav",
        "text": "已經上漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5425.wav",
        "text": "我們才要提高公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5426.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼把它反過來說呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5427.wav",
        "text": "說提高公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5428.wav",
        "text": "會帶動產業鏈成本上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5429.wav",
        "text": "這是一個非常沒有邏輯的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5430.wav",
        "text": "另外本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5431.wav",
        "text": "也同意你剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5432.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛說這些都是最辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5433.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法做其他作物的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5434.wav",
        "text": "領取的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5435.wav",
        "text": "那至少他也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5436.wav",
        "text": "我想要講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5437.wav",
        "text": "陳部長既然這麼有理想的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5438.wav",
        "text": "你覺得公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5439.wav",
        "text": "不是一個健全的體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5440.wav",
        "text": "你為什麼不把它廢掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5441.wav",
        "text": "你既然有東西可以取代你就把它廢掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5442.wav",
        "text": "啊但你也沒有東西可以取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5443.wav",
        "text": "然後你告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5444.wav",
        "text": "高鐵沿線黃金廊道計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5445.wav",
        "text": "黃金廊道計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5446.wav",
        "text": "跟公糧收購有什麼關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5447.wav",
        "text": "那個是這麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5448.wav",
        "text": "狹窄可能是高鐵沿線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5449.wav",
        "text": "兩公里的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5450.wav",
        "text": "範圍你用這個來跟我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5451.wav",
        "text": "你就是在騙這些沒有種田的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5452.wav",
        "text": "我再算一次給你聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5453.wav",
        "text": "我們雲林縣為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5454.wav",
        "text": "我們農業的產值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5455.wav",
        "text": "是854億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5456.wav",
        "text": "人口22萬平均年收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5457.wav",
        "text": "38萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5458.wav",
        "text": "遠低於我們全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5459.wav",
        "text": "平均收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5460.wav",
        "text": "的八十幾萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5461.wav",
        "text": "扣除成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5462.wav",
        "text": "他們的年收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5463.wav",
        "text": "只有23萬等於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5464.wav",
        "text": "每個人平均月收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5465.wav",
        "text": "只有1.9萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5466.wav",
        "text": "我想要請教陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5467.wav",
        "text": "假設你是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5468.wav",
        "text": "這麼有作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5469.wav",
        "text": "這麼有理想的部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5470.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣提高農民的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5471.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我我們都會支持你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5472.wav",
        "text": "你知道我們全臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5473.wav",
        "text": "低收入戶的平均值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5474.wav",
        "text": "是多少嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5475.wav",
        "text": "中低收入戶是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5476.wav",
        "text": "以我們雲林縣為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5477.wav",
        "text": "我們的農民都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5478.wav",
        "text": "在低收入戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5479.wav",
        "text": "跟中低收入戶中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5480.wav",
        "text": "取得生存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5481.wav",
        "text": "你現在再告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5482.wav",
        "text": "那些高大上的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5483.wav",
        "text": "完全不符合我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5484.wav",
        "text": "農民的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5485.wav",
        "text": "公糧收購是在照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5486.wav",
        "text": "沒有能力行銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5487.wav",
        "text": "轉型的老農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5488.wav",
        "text": "如果說種別的作物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5489.wav",
        "text": "可以讓他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5490.wav",
        "text": "賺大錢誘因足夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5491.wav",
        "text": "讓他們願意去學習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5492.wav",
        "text": "那我也不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5493.wav",
        "text": "啊我現在在講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5494.wav",
        "text": "可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5495.wav",
        "text": "沒種過田的大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5496.wav",
        "text": "請不要低估柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5497.wav",
        "text": "對菸農貢獻很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5498.wav",
        "text": "就是我想要跟大家報告的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5499.wav",
        "text": "他們真的很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5500.wav",
        "text": "你的強心劑就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5501.wav",
        "text": "在救這些老農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5502.wav",
        "text": "你的強心劑是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5503.wav",
        "text": "救這些30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5504.wav",
        "text": "繳交公糧的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5505.wav",
        "text": "老農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5506.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在還是希望陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5507.wav",
        "text": "假設13年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5508.wav",
        "text": "可以調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5509.wav",
        "text": "這13年當中農業部難道沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5510.wav",
        "text": "做任何的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5511.wav",
        "text": "假設你們覺得公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5512.wav",
        "text": "這個制度是不好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5513.wav",
        "text": "你們有什麼東西可以取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5514.wav",
        "text": "它你們13年都沒有作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5515.wav",
        "text": "今天才來告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5516.wav",
        "text": "你要1集2轉3加3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5517.wav",
        "text": "3基本上你的1集2轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5518.wav",
        "text": "3加3全部都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5519.wav",
        "text": "制度上再多加一點點錢這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5520.wav",
        "text": "那你為什麼不把那多一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5521.wav",
        "text": "的錢拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5522.wav",
        "text": "提高公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5523.wav",
        "text": "我就不理解你1集2轉3加3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5524.wav",
        "text": "要花多少錢啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5525.wav",
        "text": "搞不好要花100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5526.wav",
        "text": "只要花23億你不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5527.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦我們有算啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5528.wav",
        "text": "提高8塊錢只要花23億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5529.wav",
        "text": "108億啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5530.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦108億是他算的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5531.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5532.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣的菸農貢獻很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5533.wav",
        "text": "菸農這裡面也有幾個有貢獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5534.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌也有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5535.wav",
        "text": "我說實在話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5536.wav",
        "text": "公共政策都可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5537.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5538.wav",
        "text": "我們看到說提出這樣一個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5539.wav",
        "text": "這一兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5540.wav",
        "text": "鋪天蓋地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5541.wav",
        "text": "很多的媒體報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5542.wav",
        "text": "又開始在講公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5543.wav",
        "text": "會造成等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5544.wav",
        "text": "還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5545.wav",
        "text": "是導果為因還是導因為果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5546.wav",
        "text": "就是說從2011年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5547.wav",
        "text": "到現在過去13年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5548.wav",
        "text": "成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5549.wav",
        "text": "那你現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5550.wav",
        "text": "講公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5551.wav",
        "text": "公糧如果再漲價的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5552.wav",
        "text": "我們第一次看到有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5553.wav",
        "text": "機關用PowerPoint做這麼精美的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5554.wav",
        "text": "但是你不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5555.wav",
        "text": "只是講負面影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5556.wav",
        "text": "一個公共政策一定有好有壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5557.wav",
        "text": "公糧價格調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5558.wav",
        "text": "有什麼負面影響你把他羅列那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5559.wav",
        "text": "那你怎麼不講說公糧價格調高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5560.wav",
        "text": "有什麼正面影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5561.wav",
        "text": "如果公糧價格調高有負面影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5562.wav",
        "text": "那你的意思是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5563.wav",
        "text": "可以帶來正面影響是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5564.wav",
        "text": "不是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5565.wav",
        "text": "邏輯問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5566.wav",
        "text": "只要公糧價格高了產業成本就會上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5567.wav",
        "text": "難道公糧價格低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5568.wav",
        "text": "產業成本就會下跌嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5569.wav",
        "text": "不是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5570.wav",
        "text": "所以它不是必然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5571.wav",
        "text": "不管是藍的不管是綠的都希望幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5572.wav",
        "text": "這些農民請命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5573.wav",
        "text": "看看有沒有可能有討論的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5574.wav",
        "text": "我再拉回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5575.wav",
        "text": "至少過去兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5576.wav",
        "text": "公糧價格調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5577.wav",
        "text": "靠近選舉年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5578.wav",
        "text": "大家也講是不是有什麼相關的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5579.wav",
        "text": "大選剛結束的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5580.wav",
        "text": "我們真的可以比較理性務實地來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5581.wav",
        "text": "公糧價格13年沒有漲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5582.wav",
        "text": "本席真的很不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5583.wav",
        "text": "你現在告訴我們說不能漲不能漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5584.wav",
        "text": "因為成本會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5585.wav",
        "text": "提高結果過了兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5586.wav",
        "text": "2026年到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5587.wav",
        "text": "2028年到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5588.wav",
        "text": "突然間農業部又來公糧價格調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5589.wav",
        "text": "不要這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5590.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有選舉的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5591.wav",
        "text": "本席沒有反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5592.wav",
        "text": "或否認你的123"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5593.wav",
        "text": "很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5594.wav",
        "text": "能做就去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5595.wav",
        "text": "真的不衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5596.wav",
        "text": "我們鼓勵農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5597.wav",
        "text": "好好地做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5598.wav",
        "text": "但是有關公糧價格調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5599.wav",
        "text": "的部分應該適時反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5600.wav",
        "text": "最基本的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5601.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5602.wav",
        "text": "代表的意見怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5603.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨團是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5604.wav",
        "text": "提高5塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5605.wav",
        "text": "8塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5606.wav",
        "text": "是不是有一個合理的計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5607.wav",
        "text": "大家去做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5608.wav",
        "text": "評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5609.wav",
        "text": "行政部門能不能告訴我們至少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5610.wav",
        "text": "農民朋友的成本大概漲了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5611.wav",
        "text": "適時地來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5612.wav",
        "text": "一個合理的評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5613.wav",
        "text": "跟合理的增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5614.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5615.wav",
        "text": "再請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5616.wav",
        "text": "隨後發言\n請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5617.wav",
        "text": "疑問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5618.wav",
        "text": "我第一個要說明的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5619.wav",
        "text": "公糧的制度全世界只剩下臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5620.wav",
        "text": "跟韓國過去都有但是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5621.wav",
        "text": "21幾年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5622.wav",
        "text": "就已經都停掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5623.wav",
        "text": "剛才委員說公糧如果不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5624.wav",
        "text": "要停那個停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5625.wav",
        "text": "絕對不是明天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5626.wav",
        "text": "就宣布說不收公糧了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5627.wav",
        "text": "一定是漸進式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5628.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5629.wav",
        "text": "如果越多人繳民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5630.wav",
        "text": "表示產地價撐得住的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5631.wav",
        "text": "那就越少人繳公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5632.wav",
        "text": "讓它慢慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5633.wav",
        "text": "所謂的集團產區或用民糧來收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5634.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的策略絕對不是一刀兩斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5635.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5636.wav",
        "text": "剛才講到所謂成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5637.wav",
        "text": "的部分我要跟各位說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5638.wav",
        "text": "水稻的成本在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5639.wav",
        "text": "二期作的時候它大概提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5640.wav",
        "text": "然後一期作大概提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5641.wav",
        "text": "了6%平均大概提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5642.wav",
        "text": "雲林地區可能會比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5643.wav",
        "text": "因為不同地區是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5644.wav",
        "text": "我們講的是全國的平均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5645.wav",
        "text": "成本提高也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5646.wav",
        "text": "只有水稻產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5647.wav",
        "text": "所有的農業部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5648.wav",
        "text": "它的成本也因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5649.wav",
        "text": "種種的因素提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5650.wav",
        "text": "那我們今天如果只處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5651.wav",
        "text": "到因為很抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5652.wav",
        "text": "農業部不能只雖然說這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5653.wav",
        "text": "是公糧但是我們在考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5654.wav",
        "text": "政策設計的時候不能只考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5655.wav",
        "text": "稻作這個部分我們也要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5656.wav",
        "text": "考慮其他的產業所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5657.wav",
        "text": "換句話說同樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5658.wav",
        "text": "我剛才有說過其他的產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5659.wav",
        "text": "它面臨成本提高的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5660.wav",
        "text": "它是想辦法提高它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5661.wav",
        "text": "生產效率那我剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5662.wav",
        "text": "也說了我們的這個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5663.wav",
        "text": "裡面我們就會去引導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5664.wav",
        "text": "這些也許他年紀比較大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5665.wav",
        "text": "能夠來參與這個集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5666.wav",
        "text": "產區過去也許我們只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5667.wav",
        "text": "有一個公告你要來不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5668.wav",
        "text": "隨便你但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5669.wav",
        "text": "我會以非常負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5670.wav",
        "text": "一個態度我們會更積極的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5671.wav",
        "text": "主動去協助這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5672.wav",
        "text": "慢慢地把它轉出來他當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5673.wav",
        "text": "也不可能說明天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5674.wav",
        "text": "政策一宣布就轉過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5675.wav",
        "text": "所以他需要一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5676.wav",
        "text": "最重要的一點就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5677.wav",
        "text": "當我們在處理這樣的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5678.wav",
        "text": "價格議題的時候我們一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5679.wav",
        "text": "看到產業的前景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5680.wav",
        "text": "農業一定要持續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5681.wav",
        "text": "在這個前提之下我們要找到一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5682.wav",
        "text": "衡平性這是我們設計這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5683.wav",
        "text": "一個政策的主要原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5684.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳部長\n接下來請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5685.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5686.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5687.wav",
        "text": "公糧收購價格提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5688.wav",
        "text": "乍聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5689.wav",
        "text": "對農民一定很有利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5690.wav",
        "text": "每一個立委好像很喜歡提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5691.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼13年前提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5692.wav",
        "text": "現在又再提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5693.wav",
        "text": "我們要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5694.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是全世界唯一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5695.wav",
        "text": "還在公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5696.wav",
        "text": "購的剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5697.wav",
        "text": "部長也講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5698.wav",
        "text": "所有產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5699.wav",
        "text": "你公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5700.wav",
        "text": "格提高當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5701.wav",
        "text": "也會帶動其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5702.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n公糧收購只有30%而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5703.wav",
        "text": "其他沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5704.wav",
        "text": "我們要不要照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5705.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5706.wav",
        "text": "現在比較重點的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5707.wav",
        "text": "農業難道只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5708.wav",
        "text": "農業還有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5709.wav",
        "text": "太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5710.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我們不要用簡單的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5711.wav",
        "text": "就是說我這樣提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5712.wav",
        "text": "農民會很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5713.wav",
        "text": "但是70%並沒有拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5714.wav",
        "text": "啦30%有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5715.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5716.wav",
        "text": "大家想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5717.wav",
        "text": "立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5718.wav",
        "text": "提一個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5719.wav",
        "text": "我不知道這是什麼案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5720.wav",
        "text": "叫政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5721.wav",
        "text": "付出一百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5722.wav",
        "text": "要91億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5723.wav",
        "text": "那這個可以這樣做嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5724.wav",
        "text": "用一個決議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5725.wav",
        "text": "這個有108他都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5726.wav",
        "text": "算好了你再對一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5727.wav",
        "text": "隨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5728.wav",
        "text": "就叫政府要多付出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5729.wav",
        "text": "這個憲法上合不合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5730.wav",
        "text": "要想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5731.wav",
        "text": "啊可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5732.wav",
        "text": "一個什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5733.wav",
        "text": "補助蔬菜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5734.wav",
        "text": "這個可以這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5735.wav",
        "text": "你再想一想好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5736.wav",
        "text": "我認為這個邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5737.wav",
        "text": "你們自己要想清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5738.wav",
        "text": "大部分沒有拿到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5739.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5740.wav",
        "text": "我是臺北的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5741.wav",
        "text": "謝謝幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5742.wav",
        "text": "精闢的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5743.wav",
        "text": "讓我對於公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5744.wav",
        "text": "農業縣市的很多產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5745.wav",
        "text": "有很多的學習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5746.wav",
        "text": "真的是受教了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5747.wav",
        "text": "但是我是立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5748.wav",
        "text": "我要用一個國家預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5749.wav",
        "text": "的制度來看待這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5750.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們都講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5751.wav",
        "text": "說13年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5752.wav",
        "text": "調了一次3元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5753.wav",
        "text": "然後13年都沒有調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5754.wav",
        "text": "所以為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5755.wav",
        "text": "13年來沒有調就一定要調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5756.wav",
        "text": "因為確實萬物都在漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5757.wav",
        "text": "但是換一個角度來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5758.wav",
        "text": "一個政策為什麼13年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5759.wav",
        "text": "來沒有調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5760.wav",
        "text": "甚至我不要說13年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5761.wav",
        "text": "當時調是因為選舉前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5762.wav",
        "text": "也被批判了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5763.wav",
        "text": "是真的照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5764.wav",
        "text": "還是肥了糧商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5765.wav",
        "text": "是不是選前的政策買票等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5766.wav",
        "text": "當時的新聞都可考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5767.wav",
        "text": "但是一個政策13年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5768.wav",
        "text": "沒有再去依循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5769.wav",
        "text": "漲公糧的這一個作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5770.wav",
        "text": "就我一個學習公共政策的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5771.wav",
        "text": "我會思考到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5772.wav",
        "text": "這個政策工具可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5773.wav",
        "text": "不是最有效的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5774.wav",
        "text": "所以政府不會一直用這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5775.wav",
        "text": "增加收購公糧的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5776.wav",
        "text": "的一個例行的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5777.wav",
        "text": "我是這樣在解讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5778.wav",
        "text": "公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5779.wav",
        "text": "沒有繳交公糧的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5780.wav",
        "text": "他受惠不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5781.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5782.wav",
        "text": "第二個公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5783.wav",
        "text": "所有的農民也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5784.wav",
        "text": "只有種植水稻的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5785.wav",
        "text": "政府來照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5786.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講的其他的果樹蔬菜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5787.wav",
        "text": "花卉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5788.wav",
        "text": "雜糧這些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5789.wav",
        "text": "所以對於照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5790.wav",
        "text": "本身的公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5791.wav",
        "text": "種水稻的然後有繳公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5792.wav",
        "text": "沒繳公糧的這是一個公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5793.wav",
        "text": "第二個公平性是種水稻的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5794.wav",
        "text": "跟種其他類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5795.wav",
        "text": "農作物的它本身的公平性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5796.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們要思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5797.wav",
        "text": "我站在一個國家預算的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5798.wav",
        "text": "如果因為今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5799.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的版本是8塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5800.wav",
        "text": "然後民眾黨是5塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5801.wav",
        "text": "那如果以8塊來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5802.wav",
        "text": "收購的預算要增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5803.wav",
        "text": "沒關係這是我現在看到的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5804.wav",
        "text": "那我會擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5805.wav",
        "text": "是不是會造成其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5806.wav",
        "text": "農業部的預算\n對於其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5807.wav",
        "text": "農業政策的排擠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5808.wav",
        "text": "這個一定要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5809.wav",
        "text": "思考到這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5810.wav",
        "text": "就像我們之前在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5811.wav",
        "text": "禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5812.wav",
        "text": "大家都想要幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5813.wav",
        "text": "原住民族禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5814.wav",
        "text": "的這些原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5815.wav",
        "text": "但是它排擠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5816.wav",
        "text": "將近8成以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5817.wav",
        "text": "就是讓原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5818.wav",
        "text": "族委員會每年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5819.wav",
        "text": "預算只剩下15%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5820.wav",
        "text": "可以用來做它真正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5821.wav",
        "text": "可以做的更多業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5822.wav",
        "text": "它就是嚴重的排擠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5823.wav",
        "text": "\n所以最後講回來一件事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5824.wav",
        "text": "我們院會剩下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5825.wav",
        "text": "最後一兩天要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5826.wav",
        "text": "都一直在算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5827.wav",
        "text": "啦老人福利法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5828.wav",
        "text": "還沒有協商到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5829.wav",
        "text": "歲以上的老人免健保費的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5830.wav",
        "text": "要增加國庫359億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5831.wav",
        "text": "全民健保法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5832.wav",
        "text": "我們的健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5833.wav",
        "text": "到1塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5834.wav",
        "text": "可能會增加最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5835.wav",
        "text": "再到今天公糧的收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5836.wav",
        "text": "如果我看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5837.wav",
        "text": "我不知道正不正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5838.wav",
        "text": "我們坐在這裡可能這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5839.wav",
        "text": "24到48小時之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5840.wav",
        "text": "我們立法委員用立委的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5841.wav",
        "text": "提案就要增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5842.wav",
        "text": "國家的預算支出高達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5843.wav",
        "text": "1,700多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5844.wav",
        "text": "我就用這三個案子就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5845.wav",
        "text": "我們當然要整體做國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5846.wav",
        "text": "它的利用在哪裡是正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5847.wav",
        "text": "是合宜是公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5848.wav",
        "text": "當然最後一點就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5849.wav",
        "text": "立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5850.wav",
        "text": "基於財政紀律法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5851.wav",
        "text": "2019年修過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5852.wav",
        "text": "我們是不能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5853.wav",
        "text": "增加新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5854.wav",
        "text": "支出然後沒有找到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5855.wav",
        "text": "合宜的財源這根本上就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5856.wav",
        "text": "違反財政紀律法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5857.wav",
        "text": "我們已經多所說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5858.wav",
        "text": "所以不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5859.wav",
        "text": "嘉郡委員我不是農業縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5860.wav",
        "text": "但是我用一個公共政策的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5861.wav",
        "text": "在看待國家的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5862.wav",
        "text": "財務支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5863.wav",
        "text": "的公平性它會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5864.wav",
        "text": "造成排擠然後它對於國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5865.wav",
        "text": "整體財政可能造成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5866.wav",
        "text": "其他副作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5867.wav",
        "text": "我們都希望照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5868.wav",
        "text": "但是到底是給了強心針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5869.wav",
        "text": "還是下錯藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5870.wav",
        "text": "都需要再思考好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5871.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5872.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來張嘉郡委員再發言之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5873.wav",
        "text": "我就會喊休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5874.wav",
        "text": "回到洪孟楷書記長剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5875.wav",
        "text": "跟陳部長所溝通的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5876.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有一點空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5877.wav",
        "text": "我們用寶貴的5分鐘來溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5878.wav",
        "text": "現在請張嘉郡委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5879.wav",
        "text": "剛剛吳思瑤委員所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5880.wav",
        "text": "說實在我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5881.wav",
        "text": "是有道理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5882.wav",
        "text": "就是說我們要站在一個國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5883.wav",
        "text": "角度來思考每一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5884.wav",
        "text": "支出到底對國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5885.wav",
        "text": "有沒有幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5886.wav",
        "text": "那不禁讓我去想到說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5887.wav",
        "text": "我們因為非核家園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5888.wav",
        "text": "3年來已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5889.wav",
        "text": "撥補了台電4,001億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5890.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不去討論這個呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5891.wav",
        "text": "你們幾千億幾千億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5892.wav",
        "text": "在補貼台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5893.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5894.wav",
        "text": "你們不想要用核能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5895.wav",
        "text": "因為民進黨的黨綱裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5896.wav",
        "text": "把非核家園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5897.wav",
        "text": "納在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5898.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼不說這些都是我們民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5899.wav",
        "text": "的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5900.wav",
        "text": "你說健保補貼300多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5901.wav",
        "text": "100億好了2個加起來400億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5902.wav",
        "text": "你撥補台電4,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5903.wav",
        "text": "是大手一揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5904.wav",
        "text": "而且台電目前還累積"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5905.wav",
        "text": "虧損3,850億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5906.wav",
        "text": "這個錢誰來付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5907.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要堅持不用核能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5908.wav",
        "text": "堅持在這個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5909.wav",
        "text": "要停掉核三的第一具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5910.wav",
        "text": "機組呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5911.wav",
        "text": "不去用你要用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5912.wav",
        "text": "5塊3塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5913.wav",
        "text": "甚至現在更離譜的是你自願斷電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5914.wav",
        "text": "我補助你1度10塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5915.wav",
        "text": "國家缺電的現實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5916.wav",
        "text": "而現在你來告訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5917.wav",
        "text": "我說我們要為國家著想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5918.wav",
        "text": "去增加這些預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5919.wav",
        "text": "但是你們自己在增加的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5920.wav",
        "text": "是沒有在顧及其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5921.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點我必須要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5922.wav",
        "text": "\n另外補充一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5923.wav",
        "text": "就是陳部長剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5924.wav",
        "text": "他說他要慢慢取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5925.wav",
        "text": "這個公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5926.wav",
        "text": "這個論述我不是沒有聽過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5927.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5928.wav",
        "text": "但是在你想出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5929.wav",
        "text": "可以取代的方法之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5930.wav",
        "text": "你必須先照顧他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5931.wav",
        "text": "這30%最弱勢的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5932.wav",
        "text": "他講說慢慢取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5933.wav",
        "text": "其實這個公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5934.wav",
        "text": "已經執行了50年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5935.wav",
        "text": "就已經50年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5936.wav",
        "text": "你都想不出辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5937.wav",
        "text": "你如果有想出好的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5938.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們不分藍綠白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5939.wav",
        "text": "都會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5940.wav",
        "text": "\n我也希望部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5941.wav",
        "text": "你不要因為說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5942.wav",
        "text": "為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5943.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得你是為了什麼不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5944.wav",
        "text": "因為過去你也是贊成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5945.wav",
        "text": "我不知道為什麼你現在當了部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5946.wav",
        "text": "你就不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5947.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點我也很好奇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5948.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5949.wav",
        "text": "張嘉郡委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5950.wav",
        "text": "你在做一些比喻的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5951.wav",
        "text": "你的比喻錯誤了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5952.wav",
        "text": "你這樣反而讓自己陷入窘境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5953.wav",
        "text": "你知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5954.wav",
        "text": "我們對台電的補助就是多餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5955.wav",
        "text": "台電是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5956.wav",
        "text": "沒有漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5957.wav",
        "text": "能源價格一直漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5958.wav",
        "text": "那個和非核家園沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5959.wav",
        "text": "的話全民都要負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5960.wav",
        "text": "它照顧的是全民對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5961.wav",
        "text": "但是台電電價不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5962.wav",
        "text": "像台積電大賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5963.wav",
        "text": "所以你這樣的引喻不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5964.wav",
        "text": "這個補助有50年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5965.wav",
        "text": "嘛包括我現在在改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5966.wav",
        "text": "你就是要這樣講逐漸在調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5967.wav",
        "text": "既然要逐漸調整的話你怎麼可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5968.wav",
        "text": "再調高呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5969.wav",
        "text": "應該如何讓它落日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5970.wav",
        "text": "全世界只有臺灣還這麼搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5971.wav",
        "text": "落日是柯總召講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5972.wav",
        "text": "農業部是說以後要出去宣導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5973.wav",
        "text": "你聽我說好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5974.wav",
        "text": "你說你說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5975.wav",
        "text": "我知道你的心情啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5976.wav",
        "text": "但是在邏輯上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5977.wav",
        "text": "這個都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5978.wav",
        "text": "你講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5979.wav",
        "text": "說要調整嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5980.wav",
        "text": "你講這個50年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5981.wav",
        "text": "已經不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5982.wav",
        "text": "現在主流價值的思考了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5983.wav",
        "text": "過去為什麼我們要做年金改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5984.wav",
        "text": "那就是國民黨時期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5985.wav",
        "text": "要去拉攏公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5986.wav",
        "text": "是時代是不一樣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5987.wav",
        "text": "我不希望你要引到這邊來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5988.wav",
        "text": "應該來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5989.wav",
        "text": "檢討的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5990.wav",
        "text": "你只有補助少數人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5991.wav",
        "text": "那30%的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5992.wav",
        "text": "全世界只有臺灣還存在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5993.wav",
        "text": "這是戒嚴時期的產物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5994.wav",
        "text": "大家要重新來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5995.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼讓這個產業能夠經營發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5996.wav",
        "text": "農業能夠經營發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5997.wav",
        "text": "這個才是比較重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5998.wav",
        "text": "你這樣大筆一揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/5999.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6000.wav",
        "text": "接下來會休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6001.wav",
        "text": "麻煩農業部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6002.wav",
        "text": "回到剛才幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6003.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6004.wav",
        "text": "大家討論一個折衷點出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6005.wav",
        "text": "休息之後我們來決定如何處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6006.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家我們休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6007.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6008.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6009.wav",
        "text": "請簡短扼要說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6010.wav",
        "text": "院長說不要講那兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6011.wav",
        "text": "可是我要拜託一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6012.wav",
        "text": "\n沒有沒有不要講那兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6013.wav",
        "text": "講初心啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6014.wav",
        "text": "柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6015.wav",
        "text": "生活真的是苦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6016.wav",
        "text": "我們今天到底在討論什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6017.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論怎麼照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6018.wav",
        "text": "給他一個最基本的生活所需"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6019.wav",
        "text": "剛剛嘉郡提那個數字很好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6020.wav",
        "text": "你聽了不心疼嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6021.wav",
        "text": "幫他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6022.wav",
        "text": "啊我們今天討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6023.wav",
        "text": "我一路都有在沒有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6024.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講的是道理嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6025.wav",
        "text": "不只初心我們剛剛講的是道理先不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6026.wav",
        "text": "總召我們笑笑地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6027.wav",
        "text": "連最低的生活所需都不夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6028.wav",
        "text": "我們來幫他好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6029.wav",
        "text": "來幫他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6030.wav",
        "text": "我先唸一段文字好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6031.wav",
        "text": "在你左邊重點在左邊不是在右邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6032.wav",
        "text": "去高雄美濃視察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6033.wav",
        "text": "並且參與美濃高埔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6034.wav",
        "text": "埔頂米場的啟用典禮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6035.wav",
        "text": "你在致詞的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6036.wav",
        "text": "未來會幫農民提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6037.wav",
        "text": "收入也希望農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6038.wav",
        "text": "能以身為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6039.wav",
        "text": "農業經營者為榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6040.wav",
        "text": "美濃區的總幹事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6041.wav",
        "text": "鍾清輝你還記得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6042.wav",
        "text": "他跟中央喊話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6043.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠提高稻米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6044.wav",
        "text": "收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6045.wav",
        "text": "透過米存摺的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6046.wav",
        "text": "穩定農民的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6047.wav",
        "text": "那時候的代理部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6048.wav",
        "text": "回答表示農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6049.wav",
        "text": "未來會透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6050.wav",
        "text": "審慎思考的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6051.wav",
        "text": "以提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6052.wav",
        "text": "稻農收入為準則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6053.wav",
        "text": "包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6054.wav",
        "text": "提高公糧價格的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6055.wav",
        "text": "農業部未來會透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6056.wav",
        "text": "審慎思考與規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6057.wav",
        "text": "以提高稻農收入為準則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6058.wav",
        "text": "包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6059.wav",
        "text": "提高公糧的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6060.wav",
        "text": "這是你嘴巴講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6061.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼壓力嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6062.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6063.wav",
        "text": "我先強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6064.wav",
        "text": "我們的基層農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6065.wav",
        "text": "現在的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6066.wav",
        "text": "我們幫他好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6067.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6068.wav",
        "text": "對於農業部跟政府的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6069.wav",
        "text": "你們現在不是只有壓低他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6070.wav",
        "text": "或說不幫他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6071.wav",
        "text": "你們有太多方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6072.wav",
        "text": "最近不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6073.wav",
        "text": "有臺美21世紀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6074.wav",
        "text": "貿易倡議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6075.wav",
        "text": "美國要求開放很多農產品進來嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6076.wav",
        "text": "你們有幫我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6077.wav",
        "text": "稻農說我們的稻米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6078.wav",
        "text": "美國農產品要進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6079.wav",
        "text": "我們的稻米可以到美國去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6080.wav",
        "text": "生活所需都不幫他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6081.wav",
        "text": "你們至少要摸著良心講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6082.wav",
        "text": "那你幫他外銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6083.wav",
        "text": "臺美21世紀貿易倡議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6084.wav",
        "text": "美國所有的農產品進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6085.wav",
        "text": "你開口說我們的稻農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6086.wav",
        "text": "也有需要把稻米賣到那邊去啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6087.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有開口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6088.wav",
        "text": "我先回過頭問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6089.wav",
        "text": "政府幫我們農民做了什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6090.wav",
        "text": "當你應該幫他解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6091.wav",
        "text": "就跟這次的雞蛋一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6092.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋過剩那天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6093.wav",
        "text": "卓院長講得很好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6094.wav",
        "text": "我們不只是多的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6095.wav",
        "text": "我們要幫雞蛋找出路啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6096.wav",
        "text": "\n你們有幫我們的稻農找出路嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6097.wav",
        "text": "他們生活這麼苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6098.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不幫他們呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6099.wav",
        "text": "\n我剛唸的這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6100.wav",
        "text": "你當初的初心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6101.wav",
        "text": "跟我剛才講的柯總召的初心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6102.wav",
        "text": "回過頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6103.wav",
        "text": "幫幫我們的稻農好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6104.wav",
        "text": "我這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6105.wav",
        "text": "心疼我們的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6106.wav",
        "text": "大家還是不接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6107.wav",
        "text": "國民黨已經提案嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6108.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6109.wav",
        "text": "基於理性務實科學我們也算出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6110.wav",
        "text": "這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6111.wav",
        "text": "成本貴了那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6112.wav",
        "text": "物價高了那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6113.wav",
        "text": "人工高了那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6114.wav",
        "text": "最近通膨又那麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6115.wav",
        "text": "你想一下如果你是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6116.wav",
        "text": "家庭的人你受到多大的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6117.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不調呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6118.wav",
        "text": "現在軍公教都要調啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6119.wav",
        "text": "公糧調了以後其他周遭的跟著漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6120.wav",
        "text": "那這樣軍公教要不要調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6121.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜也有立委問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6122.wav",
        "text": "央行總裁說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6123.wav",
        "text": "會不會帶動一些物價或其他什麼的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6124.wav",
        "text": "總裁說不會啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6125.wav",
        "text": "為什麼軍公教調都不會有影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6126.wav",
        "text": "公糧收購稍微動一下下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6127.wav",
        "text": "什麼萬物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6128.wav",
        "text": "什麼成本就跟著漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6129.wav",
        "text": "這樣有道理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6130.wav",
        "text": "我們理性務實科學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6131.wav",
        "text": "講道理也心疼那我們期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6132.wav",
        "text": "總召我們做個結論好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6133.wav",
        "text": "我們期待不要一毛不拔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6134.wav",
        "text": "不要寸草不生\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6135.wav",
        "text": "國民黨提一公斤8塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6136.wav",
        "text": "好啦我們笑笑地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6137.wav",
        "text": "如果柯總召認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6138.wav",
        "text": "我建議啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6139.wav",
        "text": "能不能不要一毛不拔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6140.wav",
        "text": "啦我們至少看看能怎麼適度地提升一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6141.wav",
        "text": "現在國民黨提了8塊嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6142.wav",
        "text": "我們提1公斤5塊嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6143.wav",
        "text": "加起來13塊就對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6144.wav",
        "text": "如果民進黨提13塊我們贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6145.wav",
        "text": "啦好不好至少要5塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6146.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6147.wav",
        "text": "我想請農業部發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6148.wav",
        "text": "柯總召你來發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6149.wav",
        "text": "我當然要發言啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6150.wav",
        "text": "我看不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6151.wav",
        "text": "像是他發現了全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6152.wav",
        "text": "唯一的邏輯理論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6153.wav",
        "text": "好像是非常理性務實科學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6154.wav",
        "text": "一點都不理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6155.wav",
        "text": "這個大家都會講啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6156.wav",
        "text": "我們在這裡不必用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6157.wav",
        "text": "互相攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6158.wav",
        "text": "要心疼大家都一樣心疼啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6159.wav",
        "text": "好像只有你在心疼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6160.wav",
        "text": "不要再講這種話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6161.wav",
        "text": "我們講理性務實科學就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6162.wav",
        "text": "我們面對農產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6163.wav",
        "text": "這個是很大壓力沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6164.wav",
        "text": "但是只有稻農嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6165.wav",
        "text": "是整個農業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6166.wav",
        "text": "我們現在講的是整個農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6167.wav",
        "text": "你可以補助稻農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6168.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6169.wav",
        "text": "蔬菜呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6170.wav",
        "text": "這個補助是全世界唯一的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6171.wav",
        "text": "已經五十幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6172.wav",
        "text": "是戒嚴時期的產物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6173.wav",
        "text": "已經要轉型正義了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6174.wav",
        "text": "包括我們過去為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6175.wav",
        "text": "要年金改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6176.wav",
        "text": "你退休的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6177.wav",
        "text": "拿超過一百零多趴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6178.wav",
        "text": "這個原點在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6179.wav",
        "text": "對種公糧的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6180.wav",
        "text": "大家都去種的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6181.wav",
        "text": "雜糧就壓下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6182.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6183.wav",
        "text": "一個產業鏈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6184.wav",
        "text": "不是只單看一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6185.wav",
        "text": "不要以管窺豹好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6186.wav",
        "text": "所以什麼叫理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6187.wav",
        "text": "呢我們就是要理性討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6188.wav",
        "text": "到底這種制度的存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6189.wav",
        "text": "張嘉郡也講應該要落日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6190.wav",
        "text": "不我沒說要落日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6191.wav",
        "text": "我們如何用普惠性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6192.wav",
        "text": "這才是比較理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6193.wav",
        "text": "啦務實也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6194.wav",
        "text": "稻的30%的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6195.wav",
        "text": "這個很科學嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6196.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6197.wav",
        "text": "好像你講完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6198.wav",
        "text": "不要我們就表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6199.wav",
        "text": "我們不知道你用什麼當基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6200.wav",
        "text": "這個法律基礎在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6201.wav",
        "text": "國家支出一百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6202.wav",
        "text": "這個法律基礎在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6203.wav",
        "text": "你是用預算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6204.wav",
        "text": "還是哪一個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6205.wav",
        "text": "數明天可以用這樣一個表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6206.wav",
        "text": "增加一百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6207.wav",
        "text": "後天也可以再創造一個表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6208.wav",
        "text": "我要照顧漁民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6209.wav",
        "text": "的這個有沒有法律基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6210.wav",
        "text": "有沒有憲法基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6211.wav",
        "text": "我先講這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6212.wav",
        "text": "你今天來當立委我是很尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6213.wav",
        "text": "你最大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6214.wav",
        "text": "理性務實都講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6215.wav",
        "text": "科學不要講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6216.wav",
        "text": "我很怕你再講科學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6217.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6218.wav",
        "text": "我從520向來的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6219.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我要讓農民成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6220.wav",
        "text": "一個很非常有尊嚴的職業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6221.wav",
        "text": "我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6222.wav",
        "text": "讓外界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6223.wav",
        "text": "看待農民是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6224.wav",
        "text": "這片土地守護的貢獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6225.wav",
        "text": "這個我一定是堅持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6226.wav",
        "text": "所以我在歷次的本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6227.wav",
        "text": "我一定是提高農民所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6228.wav",
        "text": "不是稻農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6229.wav",
        "text": "這兩個是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6230.wav",
        "text": "喔因為農業部看的是整體農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6231.wav",
        "text": "而不是一個族群的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6232.wav",
        "text": "不是說那個不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6233.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分我說我們一定會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6234.wav",
        "text": "找到一個最好的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6235.wav",
        "text": "很多選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6236.wav",
        "text": "提高公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6237.wav",
        "text": "也是一個選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6238.wav",
        "text": "所以在那個時間點是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6239.wav",
        "text": "美濃的鍾總幹事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6240.wav",
        "text": "他本來也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6241.wav",
        "text": "支持要提高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6242.wav",
        "text": "後來他看到我們這個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6243.wav",
        "text": "這個政策其實我們在前幾個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6244.wav",
        "text": "有跟一些集團產業農會做溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6245.wav",
        "text": "他們反而是支持這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6246.wav",
        "text": "我剛才也講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6247.wav",
        "text": "像花東地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6248.wav",
        "text": "都不繳公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6249.wav",
        "text": "90%是不繳公糧的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6250.wav",
        "text": "那一些完全是反對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6251.wav",
        "text": "一個公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6252.wav",
        "text": "光是種稻的人就有不同的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6253.wav",
        "text": "用我們的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6254.wav",
        "text": "能夠持續地進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6255.wav",
        "text": "我會非常負責任地去落實這樣的一個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6256.wav",
        "text": "也請我們的委員支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6257.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6258.wav",
        "text": "協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6259.wav",
        "text": "一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6260.wav",
        "text": "本案及台灣民眾黨黨團所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6261.wav",
        "text": "修正動議1案均保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6262.wav",
        "text": "送請院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6263.wav",
        "text": "院會進行處理時由台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6264.wav",
        "text": "推派1位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6265.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團推派2位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6266.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團推2位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6267.wav",
        "text": "輪流交叉發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6268.wav",
        "text": "順序授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6269.wav",
        "text": "議事處處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6270.wav",
        "text": "每人發言時間為3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6271.wav",
        "text": "發言後不再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6272.wav",
        "text": "即進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6273.wav",
        "text": "\n請問各位黨團協商代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6274.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6275.wav",
        "text": "要照顧的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6276.wav",
        "text": "是全方位的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6277.wav",
        "text": "也可以照顧70%啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6278.wav",
        "text": "作物中最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6279.wav",
        "text": "你提老農津貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6280.wav",
        "text": "的時候沒有增加預算嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6281.wav",
        "text": "還是你們願意增加老農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6282.wav",
        "text": "老農津貼是"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6284.wav",
        "text": "那是一回事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6285.wav",
        "text": "農民我也贊成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6286.wav",
        "text": "這個基礎在哪"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6287.wav",
        "text": "後天提一個八百億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6288.wav",
        "text": "國家的財政要看公平"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6289.wav",
        "text": "民進黨也提了很多增加預算的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6290.wav",
        "text": "哪一個你講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6291.wav",
        "text": "你講出來嘛"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6292.wav",
        "text": "行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6293.wav",
        "text": "行政部門的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6294.wav",
        "text": "還要經過立法院同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6295.wav",
        "text": "我剛才在提"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6296.wav",
        "text": "啊你們提老農津貼的時候都沒有想到會增加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6297.wav",
        "text": "本案顯然大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6298.wav",
        "text": "無法達成共識"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6299.wav",
        "text": "這爭議可以驗證的啦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6300.wav",
        "text": "均保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6301.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6302.wav",
        "text": "我們進入下一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6303.wav",
        "text": "我對於保留送院會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6304.wav",
        "text": "這樣不行啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6305.wav",
        "text": "有照顧到農民然後又比較少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6306.wav",
        "text": "各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6307.wav",
        "text": "各位閣員還有各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6308.wav",
        "text": "非常歡迎大家我們首先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6309.wav",
        "text": "介紹一下今天列席的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6310.wav",
        "text": "閣員及各位官員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6311.wav",
        "text": "首先是法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6312.wav",
        "text": "常務次長黃次長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6313.wav",
        "text": "吳秘書長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6314.wav",
        "text": "\n數位發展部資源管理司"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6315.wav",
        "text": "還沒到\n國防部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6316.wav",
        "text": "王處長歡迎您"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6317.wav",
        "text": "\nNCC法律事務處蔡處長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6318.wav",
        "text": "歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6319.wav",
        "text": "\n警政署刑事警察局"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6320.wav",
        "text": "張技正歡迎您"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6321.wav",
        "text": "民用航空局"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6322.wav",
        "text": "孫副組長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6323.wav",
        "text": "\n個人資料保護委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6324.wav",
        "text": "嚴科長歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6325.wav",
        "text": "\n向各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6326.wav",
        "text": "昨天我們協商的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6327.wav",
        "text": "名稱第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6328.wav",
        "text": "至第十一條均保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6329.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6330.wav",
        "text": "表決前繼續協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6331.wav",
        "text": "現在我們在表決前繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6332.wav",
        "text": "請"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6333.wav",
        "text": "提議的柯建銘總召請發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6334.wav",
        "text": "這是你提出來的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6335.wav",
        "text": "我還是要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6336.wav",
        "text": "很懇切地拜託"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6337.wav",
        "text": "理性務實科學"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6338.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6339.wav",
        "text": "剛剛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6340.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院來審查的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6341.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6342.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6343.wav",
        "text": "包括"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6344.wav",
        "text": "司法委員會大家在質詢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6345.wav",
        "text": "包括羅智強等等"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6346.wav",
        "text": "我們再重新調整過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6347.wav",
        "text": "已經修改了10個條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6348.wav",
        "text": "換句話說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6349.wav",
        "text": "和原來的不一樣"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6350.wav",
        "text": "主張是要修刑事訴訟法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6351.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6352.wav",
        "text": "他講了一個很有道理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6353.wav",
        "text": "是談一個實體的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6354.wav",
        "text": "程序的問題了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6355.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6356.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6357.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6358.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要面對就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6359.wav",
        "text": "打詐四法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6360.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道朗朗上口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6361.wav",
        "text": "全民都在等待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6362.wav",
        "text": "是協商好了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6363.wav",
        "text": "詐欺危害防制法以及通保法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6364.wav",
        "text": "剩下就是科"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6365.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6367.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6368.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6369.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6370.wav",
        "text": "但是在這裡還是要很懇切"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6371.wav",
        "text": "地拜託黃國昌委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6372.wav",
        "text": "使用者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6373.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6374.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6375.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6376.wav",
        "text": "它也講得很清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6377.wav",
        "text": "他們兩個都認為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6378.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6379.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6380.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6381.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6382.wav",
        "text": "他們意見都表示得很清楚"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6383.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以在這個地方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6384.wav",
        "text": "我還是拜託黃國昌委員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6385.wav",
        "text": "至於刑事訴訟法裡面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6386.wav",
        "text": "那個趕快處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6387.wav",
        "text": "這是沒有錯"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6388.wav",
        "text": "假如再這樣堅持下去的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6389.wav",
        "text": "表決通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6390.wav",
        "text": "你的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6391.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們要的東西"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6392.wav",
        "text": "能夠在專法上面處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6393.wav",
        "text": "是會完全不見的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6394.wav",
        "text": "有一些東西回到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6395.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6396.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6397.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6398.wav",
        "text": "能夠處理得這麼完整"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6399.wav",
        "text": "也有一些調整"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6400.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6401.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6402.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6403.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6404.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6405.wav",
        "text": "既然行政院都提出來了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6406.wav",
        "text": "我也瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6407.wav",
        "text": "你的用心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6408.wav",
        "text": "過去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6409.wav",
        "text": "也曾經主張過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6410.wav",
        "text": "規範更完整"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6411.wav",
        "text": "那你現在是把"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6412.wav",
        "text": "科偵法裡面的東西"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6413.wav",
        "text": "塞到刑訴裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6414.wav",
        "text": "這點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6415.wav",
        "text": "我想已經到最後時刻了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6416.wav",
        "text": "必須冷靜來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6417.wav",
        "text": "面對這個事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6418.wav",
        "text": "我也跟傅總召"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6419.wav",
        "text": "拜託"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6420.wav",
        "text": "我知道他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6421.wav",
        "text": "是答應的但是很為難就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6422.wav",
        "text": "說黃國昌本人還沒答應他也不敢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6423.wav",
        "text": "隨便鬆口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6424.wav",
        "text": "以上就是如此"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6425.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6426.wav",
        "text": "針對有關於"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6427.wav",
        "text": "提供我們第一線"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6428.wav",
        "text": "檢警的同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6429.wav",
        "text": "在科技偵查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6430.wav",
        "text": "所需要的手段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6431.wav",
        "text": "我們從一開始"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6432.wav",
        "text": "就是支持的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6433.wav",
        "text": "而且是大力地在推動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6434.wav",
        "text": "這是為什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6435.wav",
        "text": "在這個會期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6436.wav",
        "text": "面對行政院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6437.wav",
        "text": "院長前行政院院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6438.wav",
        "text": "陳建仁的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6439.wav",
        "text": "我提出質詢的主題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6440.wav",
        "text": "就是這個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6441.wav",
        "text": "從M化車到GPS"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6442.wav",
        "text": "第一次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6443.wav",
        "text": "司法院來做業務報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6444.wav",
        "text": "立法計畫的質詢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6445.wav",
        "text": "的時候我也提出來了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6446.wav",
        "text": "司法院過去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6447.wav",
        "text": "基本上就是一個自掃門前雪"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6448.wav",
        "text": "的心態"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6449.wav",
        "text": "我也講過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6450.wav",
        "text": "在德國因應科技偵查"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6451.wav",
        "text": "的手段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6452.wav",
        "text": "過去這十幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6453.wav",
        "text": "他們的刑訴條文是怎麼充實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6454.wav",
        "text": "去補強的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6455.wav",
        "text": "這都不是說空話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6456.wav",
        "text": "這個都是有很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6457.wav",
        "text": "立法上面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6458.wav",
        "text": "\n之前法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6459.wav",
        "text": "提給行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6460.wav",
        "text": "的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6461.wav",
        "text": "所謂的科技偵查法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6462.wav",
        "text": "我上次協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6463.wav",
        "text": "我有說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6464.wav",
        "text": "我從第一版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6465.wav",
        "text": "看到最後一版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6466.wav",
        "text": "來來回回好幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6467.wav",
        "text": "有立專法的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6468.wav",
        "text": "是因為裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6469.wav",
        "text": "還牽涉到有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6470.wav",
        "text": "設備端通訊監察的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6471.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6472.wav",
        "text": "塞在其中一個特定的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6473.wav",
        "text": "因為我們過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6474.wav",
        "text": "在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6475.wav",
        "text": "有關於刑事訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6476.wav",
        "text": "強制處分偵查部分的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6477.wav",
        "text": "我們一開始就走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6478.wav",
        "text": "岔了一條路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6479.wav",
        "text": "就是有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6480.wav",
        "text": "通訊監察的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6481.wav",
        "text": "立了特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6482.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟又立了一個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6483.wav",
        "text": "所以搞到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6484.wav",
        "text": "你們那時候為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6485.wav",
        "text": "科偵法會定成科偵法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6486.wav",
        "text": "我看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6487.wav",
        "text": "因為你裡面有設備端的通訊監察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6488.wav",
        "text": "你不曉得要怎麼塞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6489.wav",
        "text": "設備端的通訊監察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6490.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6491.wav",
        "text": "有一些學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6492.wav",
        "text": "他們仿外國的立法例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6493.wav",
        "text": "覺得有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6494.wav",
        "text": "但在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6495.wav",
        "text": "可能我們針對很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6496.wav",
        "text": "各自的保護這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6497.wav",
        "text": "做得完善的程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6498.wav",
        "text": "讓社會上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6499.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6500.wav",
        "text": "所以這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6501.wav",
        "text": "大家掙扎了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6502.wav",
        "text": "那不管現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6503.wav",
        "text": "那個地方全部都拿掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6504.wav",
        "text": "\n所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6505.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6506.wav",
        "text": "我們打開天窗說亮話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6507.wav",
        "text": "事實上主要就兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6508.wav",
        "text": "一個就M化車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6509.wav",
        "text": "一個就GPS"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6510.wav",
        "text": "你最多再加一個熱顯像儀"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6511.wav",
        "text": "在本質上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6512.wav",
        "text": "屬於強制處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6513.wav",
        "text": "的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6514.wav",
        "text": "所以我們後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6515.wav",
        "text": "跟一些學者討論以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6516.wav",
        "text": "也去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6517.wav",
        "text": "檢察官的論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6518.wav",
        "text": "我跟吳宗憲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6519.wav",
        "text": "都去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6520.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的鍾佳濱委員其實也有去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6521.wav",
        "text": "可是為什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6522.wav",
        "text": "以後鍾佳濱委員也是提"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6523.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6524.wav",
        "text": "因為在那個論壇上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6525.wav",
        "text": "各方的意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6526.wav",
        "text": "所以回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6527.wav",
        "text": "我們才確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6528.wav",
        "text": "走刑事訴訟法的這條路"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6529.wav",
        "text": "\n這樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6530.wav",
        "text": "在上次協商完了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6531.wav",
        "text": "我再度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6532.wav",
        "text": "跟一些前輩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6533.wav",
        "text": "再請教再確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6534.wav",
        "text": "他們還是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6535.wav",
        "text": "放在刑事訴訟法裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6536.wav",
        "text": "例而且"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6537.wav",
        "text": "透過修正動議所增加的那些刑罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6538.wav",
        "text": "部分其實我上次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6539.wav",
        "text": "已經大概約略點到了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6540.wav",
        "text": "在現有的刑法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6541.wav",
        "text": "規範體系裡面本來就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6542.wav",
        "text": "處理的問題為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6543.wav",
        "text": "必要而去增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6544.wav",
        "text": "其他特別刑法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6545.wav",
        "text": "發生跟普通刑法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6546.wav",
        "text": "法規的競合問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6547.wav",
        "text": "其實回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6548.wav",
        "text": "普通刑法去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6549.wav",
        "text": "就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6550.wav",
        "text": "這樣的想法跟立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6551.wav",
        "text": "到今天沒有什麼改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6552.wav",
        "text": "今天晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6553.wav",
        "text": "吳宗憲召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6554.wav",
        "text": "可能另有要公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6555.wav",
        "text": "他沒辦法來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6556.wav",
        "text": "也再度打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6557.wav",
        "text": "跟他確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6558.wav",
        "text": "他的想法有沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6559.wav",
        "text": "我得到的正式答復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6560.wav",
        "text": "是他的想法沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6561.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6562.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6563.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請洪孟楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6564.wav",
        "text": "書記長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6565.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6566.wav",
        "text": "不管黑貓白貓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6567.wav",
        "text": "今天打詐四法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6568.wav",
        "text": "最後一塊拼圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6569.wav",
        "text": "我想我們大家都希望能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6570.wav",
        "text": "讓國家有更強而有力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6571.wav",
        "text": "對付犯罪的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6572.wav",
        "text": "但是我們人民的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6573.wav",
        "text": "也不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6574.wav",
        "text": "國家掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6575.wav",
        "text": "而導致於球員兼裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6576.wav",
        "text": "這是疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6577.wav",
        "text": "所以今天既然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6578.wav",
        "text": "有科技偵查法跟刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6579.wav",
        "text": "而且一個是司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6580.wav",
        "text": "有提出相關版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6581.wav",
        "text": "法務部也有相關版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6582.wav",
        "text": "版本都能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6583.wav",
        "text": "補足我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6584.wav",
        "text": "欠缺的這一塊拼圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6585.wav",
        "text": "所以這也就是我說的黑貓白貓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6586.wav",
        "text": "只要能抓老鼠都是好貓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6587.wav",
        "text": "\n現在重點在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6588.wav",
        "text": "聽起來覺得比較可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6589.wav",
        "text": "以及可能會變成我們比較難以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6590.wav",
        "text": "去監督制衡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6591.wav",
        "text": "所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6592.wav",
        "text": "我也希望能請司法院跟法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6593.wav",
        "text": "再說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6594.wav",
        "text": "兩個都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6595.wav",
        "text": "達到一樣的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6596.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們能夠尊重在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6597.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟法這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6598.wav",
        "text": "來補足這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6599.wav",
        "text": "相對來講可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6600.wav",
        "text": "可以化解比較多大家對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6601.wav",
        "text": "未來如果通過之後的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6602.wav",
        "text": "但是又能達到一致的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6603.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣比較務實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6604.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都已經辛苦一整天了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6605.wav",
        "text": "我也希望等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6606.wav",
        "text": "兩個部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6607.wav",
        "text": "──司法院跟法務部在回答的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6608.wav",
        "text": "因為我想這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6609.wav",
        "text": "我們才能夠往前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6610.wav",
        "text": "啦不然看起來剛剛柯總召跟黃總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6611.wav",
        "text": "兩位總召各講各的話之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6612.wav",
        "text": "也沒有一個定見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6613.wav",
        "text": "面的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6614.wav",
        "text": "也許有包括相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6615.wav",
        "text": "行政面事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6616.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團修正動議所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6617.wav",
        "text": "涉及到的刑責部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6618.wav",
        "text": "這部分在立法體例上它都不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6619.wav",
        "text": "定在刑訴法上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6620.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點\n第二點就整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6621.wav",
        "text": "我們現在所定的只有三種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6622.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6623.wav",
        "text": "但是未來的科技方法不斷日新月異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6624.wav",
        "text": "新興的科技方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6625.wav",
        "text": "唯有透過一個專法的立法模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6626.wav",
        "text": "執法機關的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6627.wav",
        "text": "如果定在刑事訴訟法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6628.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟法基本上是整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6629.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟程序的根本大法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6630.wav",
        "text": "適用在整個刑事訴訟程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6631.wav",
        "text": "基本上它不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6632.wav",
        "text": "動輒修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6633.wav",
        "text": "所以我們主張這部分不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6634.wav",
        "text": "一直非常在意的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6635.wav",
        "text": "濫權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6636.wav",
        "text": "所以定了很多監督甚至很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6637.wav",
        "text": "相關的刑責規定要去控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6638.wav",
        "text": "執行機關的濫用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6639.wav",
        "text": "所以有相關的刑責規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6640.wav",
        "text": "當然黃委員剛才講得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6641.wav",
        "text": "我們現行刑法就可以去處罰相關的刑責規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6642.wav",
        "text": "有關的刑責規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6643.wav",
        "text": "基本上都在處罰所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6644.wav",
        "text": "洩密罪相關的刑罰規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6645.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查不見得都一定是洩密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6646.wav",
        "text": "甚至有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6647.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6648.wav",
        "text": "就應該去處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6649.wav",
        "text": "第二個他所洩露出來的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6650.wav",
        "text": "也不見得是我們刑法上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6651.wav",
        "text": "所定性的秘密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6652.wav",
        "text": "所以刑法有可能不能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6653.wav",
        "text": "違法使用科技偵查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6654.wav",
        "text": "所應該要制裁的相關行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6655.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6656.wav",
        "text": "在科技偵查法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6657.wav",
        "text": "定相關的刑責規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6658.wav",
        "text": "按照大院所要求的監督機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6659.wav",
        "text": "確實落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6660.wav",
        "text": "的相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6661.wav",
        "text": "從以上的規定來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6662.wav",
        "text": "或是未來的擴充性來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6663.wav",
        "text": "還是希望能夠定在專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6664.wav",
        "text": "以上補充謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6665.wav",
        "text": "謝謝法務部黃次長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6666.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6667.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6668.wav",
        "text": "各位先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6669.wav",
        "text": "昨天是我們副秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6670.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6671.wav",
        "text": "司法院的立場就是傾向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6672.wav",
        "text": "定專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6673.wav",
        "text": "昨天副秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6674.wav",
        "text": "也都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6675.wav",
        "text": "因為這都有直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6676.wav",
        "text": "理由也都講得很充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6677.wav",
        "text": "今天我們刑事廳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6678.wav",
        "text": "也可以再補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6679.wav",
        "text": "列席的是司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6680.wav",
        "text": "刑事廳副廳長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6681.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6682.wav",
        "text": "各位先進大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6683.wav",
        "text": "其實委員這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6684.wav",
        "text": "講的各項立法方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6685.wav",
        "text": "站在刑事廳的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6686.wav",
        "text": "認為都是有道理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6687.wav",
        "text": "要求我們還是擇要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6688.wav",
        "text": "說明一下其實就如同我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6689.wav",
        "text": "一個立法政策的選擇上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6690.wav",
        "text": "我們應該還是要選擇一個最適當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6691.wav",
        "text": "兩種說法都有道理但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6692.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要選擇一個比較適當的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6693.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們刑事廳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6694.wav",
        "text": "適當呢大概的理由在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6695.wav",
        "text": "所謂的科技偵查不純然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6696.wav",
        "text": "只是一個程序法的面向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6697.wav",
        "text": "將來還是有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6698.wav",
        "text": "不斷融入一些其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6699.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6700.wav",
        "text": "這時候可能就需要有一些實體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6701.wav",
        "text": "民事刑事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6702.wav",
        "text": "甚至是行政責任的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6703.wav",
        "text": "這些就不是刑事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6704.wav",
        "text": "的程序可以規範的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6705.wav",
        "text": "一些行政的管制措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6706.wav",
        "text": "等等的一些管制措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6707.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一個甚至可能還會有國會監督的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6708.wav",
        "text": "問題就如同通保法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6709.wav",
        "text": "國會可以要求相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6710.wav",
        "text": "執行機關定期做一些報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6711.wav",
        "text": "這也不適合定在刑事訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6712.wav",
        "text": "法這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6713.wav",
        "text": "的實務慣例來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6714.wav",
        "text": "其實我們有很多法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6715.wav",
        "text": "都不是定在刑訴或民訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6716.wav",
        "text": "比方說如果以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6717.wav",
        "text": "司法院主掌的法律來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6718.wav",
        "text": "我們的國民法官法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6719.wav",
        "text": "其實也是刑訴的一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6720.wav",
        "text": "但它就不是定在刑訴它就直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6721.wav",
        "text": "定了一個國民法官法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6722.wav",
        "text": "像智審法是民事訴訟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6723.wav",
        "text": "的一種可是它就不是定在民事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6724.wav",
        "text": "訴訟法甚至像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6725.wav",
        "text": "家事事件法它也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6726.wav",
        "text": "訴訟的一種可是它就不是定在民事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6727.wav",
        "text": "訴訟法都以專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6728.wav",
        "text": "來訂定這個是為了避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6729.wav",
        "text": "這些傳統的民事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6730.wav",
        "text": "訴訟法刑事訴訟法因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6731.wav",
        "text": "不斷有新的類型產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6732.wav",
        "text": "最後可能會導致這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6733.wav",
        "text": "適用上的困擾所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6734.wav",
        "text": "就用一些專法來因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6735.wav",
        "text": "時代不斷的變遷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6736.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這一點來講可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6737.wav",
        "text": "在我國的實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6738.wav",
        "text": "已經有行諸有年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6739.wav",
        "text": "慣例就這些方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6740.wav",
        "text": "都有一些專法來因應雖然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6741.wav",
        "text": "德國的確是採取刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6742.wav",
        "text": "的體例可是畢竟那是外國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6743.wav",
        "text": "的立法例未必能夠適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6744.wav",
        "text": "臺灣現在目前實務的操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6745.wav",
        "text": "\n第三點的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6746.wav",
        "text": "如果不定在刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6747.wav",
        "text": "可能會有證據能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6748.wav",
        "text": "法官控制上或監控上的困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6749.wav",
        "text": "可能會不太相信執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6750.wav",
        "text": "不管是定在刑訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6751.wav",
        "text": "或是定在特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6752.wav",
        "text": "其實法官都會依法執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6753.wav",
        "text": "證據能力或者是法官保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6754.wav",
        "text": "檢察官保留這一方面都不會有任何的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6755.wav",
        "text": "應該是沒有什麼太大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6756.wav",
        "text": "以上是我們司法院的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6757.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6758.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝司法院的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6759.wav",
        "text": "\n吳思瑤委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6760.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6761.wav",
        "text": "大家都辛苦了很晚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6762.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都很希望像剛剛孟楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6763.wav",
        "text": "講的我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6764.wav",
        "text": "打詐四法最後一塊拼圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6765.wav",
        "text": "我覺得其實看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6766.wav",
        "text": "在刑訴的幾個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6767.wav",
        "text": "提出刑訴包括民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6768.wav",
        "text": "其實內容也就是我們科偵法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6769.wav",
        "text": "寫的內容一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6770.wav",
        "text": "嘛實質面是一樣就是立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6771.wav",
        "text": "你選擇要放在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6772.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會的時候我們討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6773.wav",
        "text": "很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6774.wav",
        "text": "其實用專法的方式很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6775.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛講國民法官法我記得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6776.wav",
        "text": "羈押法也是嘛對不對我記得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6777.wav",
        "text": "監獄行刑法也是都是在刑訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6778.wav",
        "text": "的程序之外另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6779.wav",
        "text": "它在擴充性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6780.wav",
        "text": "可以更及時的因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6781.wav",
        "text": "新的狀況容易去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6782.wav",
        "text": "擴充然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6783.wav",
        "text": "另一方面也維持了刑事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6784.wav",
        "text": "訴訟法的法安定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6785.wav",
        "text": "這個就是很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6786.wav",
        "text": "基本的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6787.wav",
        "text": "我個人會認為用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6788.wav",
        "text": "科偵法一個專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6789.wav",
        "text": "更可以凸顯在我們因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6790.wav",
        "text": "這麼多新興的現在是放入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6791.wav",
        "text": "未來真的隨時會有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6792.wav",
        "text": "要擴充對於一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6793.wav",
        "text": "國會議員來講專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6794.wav",
        "text": "在我們未來配套進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6795.wav",
        "text": "修法的時候都是相對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6796.wav",
        "text": "比較有彈性能夠處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6797.wav",
        "text": "否則如果都放在刑事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6798.wav",
        "text": "訴訟法裡頭你以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6799.wav",
        "text": "要因應新的方式做一些調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6800.wav",
        "text": "的時候除了法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6801.wav",
        "text": "之外我們都還要去會銜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6802.wav",
        "text": "司法院我覺得每次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6803.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為打詐這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6804.wav",
        "text": "是要非常快速精準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6805.wav",
        "text": "而且要有很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6806.wav",
        "text": "彈性然後賦予它未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6807.wav",
        "text": "執法的擴充性的這個層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6808.wav",
        "text": "用一個專法我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6809.wav",
        "text": "是一個合宜適當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6810.wav",
        "text": "而且合用的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6811.wav",
        "text": "\n另外一方面我倒是過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6812.wav",
        "text": "在討論過程當中我比較沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6813.wav",
        "text": "注意到但謝謝剛剛你們提供的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6814.wav",
        "text": "就是在國會監督的層次上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6815.wav",
        "text": "確實用一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6816.wav",
        "text": "專法我覺得這提供給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6817.wav",
        "text": "國昌委員這邊可以參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6818.wav",
        "text": "因為它是一個專法而且它是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6819.wav",
        "text": "一個新的專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6820.wav",
        "text": "我們其實國會未來在監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6821.wav",
        "text": "的行使過程可以隨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6822.wav",
        "text": "要求它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6823.wav",
        "text": "針對一個新法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6824.wav",
        "text": "頒布上路之後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6825.wav",
        "text": "執行狀況隨時要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6826.wav",
        "text": "專案報告要來做什麼樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6827.wav",
        "text": "補充我自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6828.wav",
        "text": "就我的國會經驗裡頭我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6829.wav",
        "text": "認為我們反而真的是比較能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6830.wav",
        "text": "我們想要監督的層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6831.wav",
        "text": "否則你把它放在一部那麼大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6832.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟法裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6833.wav",
        "text": "一小部分幾個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6834.wav",
        "text": "哪一個可以在我國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6835.wav",
        "text": "監督權的行使上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6836.wav",
        "text": "層面我是覺得我今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6837.wav",
        "text": "收穫到這個思考的層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6838.wav",
        "text": "對於我們立法的監督者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6839.wav",
        "text": "上也是一個很值得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6840.wav",
        "text": "去深思跟思考的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6841.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6842.wav",
        "text": "要懇求啦我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6843.wav",
        "text": "我們都花了這麼多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6844.wav",
        "text": "打詐四法的最後一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6845.wav",
        "text": "實質上都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6846.wav",
        "text": "太大的差異了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6847.wav",
        "text": "偵辦方法我們都同意放進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6848.wav",
        "text": "實質上真的沒有什麼太大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6849.wav",
        "text": "差異在這個立法選擇上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6850.wav",
        "text": "是不是真的請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6851.wav",
        "text": "國昌委員而且我真的覺得這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6852.wav",
        "text": "未來對於我們監督的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6853.wav",
        "text": "其實是更便利的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6854.wav",
        "text": "不用凡事在刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6855.wav",
        "text": "那麼大的法律裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6856.wav",
        "text": "去做處理我真的覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6857.wav",
        "text": "這不用繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6858.wav",
        "text": "這樣堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6859.wav",
        "text": "協助幫助法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6860.wav",
        "text": "我們的犯罪部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6861.wav",
        "text": "還包括內政部我們每一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6862.wav",
        "text": "問他們不管是刑事警察局也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6863.wav",
        "text": "內政部也好法務部也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6864.wav",
        "text": "他們都認為這樣比較合宜好用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6865.wav",
        "text": "那是不是讓執法的單位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6866.wav",
        "text": "他們畢竟是執法者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6867.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個要尊重他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6868.wav",
        "text": "真的是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6869.wav",
        "text": "懇切的懇求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6870.wav",
        "text": "跟列席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6871.wav",
        "text": "閣員跟官員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6872.wav",
        "text": "因為我們協商的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6873.wav",
        "text": "事實上是這樣大家把意見表達完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6874.wav",
        "text": "會喊一個休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6875.wav",
        "text": "有幾分鐘的時間溝通一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6876.wav",
        "text": "所以也比較晚一點體力消耗比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6877.wav",
        "text": "請你們諒解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6878.wav",
        "text": "包括我本人眼睛都快睜不開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6879.wav",
        "text": "還是要照這個程序我們休息5分鐘謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6880.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位非常感謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6881.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝各位閣員跟官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6882.wav",
        "text": "大家都已經很晚了謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6883.wav",
        "text": "因為你們最近事情非常的多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6884.wav",
        "text": "\n跟大家宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6885.wav",
        "text": "科技偵查專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6886.wav",
        "text": "刑事訴訟法各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6887.wav",
        "text": "仍然未有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6888.wav",
        "text": "我們送院會進行處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6889.wav",
        "text": "因為刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6890.wav",
        "text": "今日第22次院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6891.wav",
        "text": "將台灣民眾黨黨團擬具刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6892.wav",
        "text": "第204條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6893.wav",
        "text": "條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6894.wav",
        "text": "自委員會抽出逕付二讀與相關提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6895.wav",
        "text": "併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6896.wav",
        "text": "我想我們就併案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6897.wav",
        "text": "在院會的時候再一併處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6898.wav",
        "text": "另外一點國民黨黨團來函"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6899.wav",
        "text": "請本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6900.wav",
        "text": "增列協商議題包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6901.wav",
        "text": "解除赴大陸觀光限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6902.wav",
        "text": "證交法第十四條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6903.wav",
        "text": "花東快條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6904.wav",
        "text": "健保法第六十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6905.wav",
        "text": "刑法第208十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6906.wav",
        "text": "凌虐兒少罪等案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6907.wav",
        "text": "我們列為下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6908.wav",
        "text": "星期一協商議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6909.wav",
        "text": "下星期一下午兩點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6910.wav",
        "text": "在紅樓302會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6911.wav",
        "text": "我們繼續進行朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6912.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6913.wav",
        "text": "針對本次會議討論事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6914.wav",
        "text": "列表當中各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6915.wav",
        "text": "認有須進行協商者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6916.wav",
        "text": "星期一下午也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6917.wav",
        "text": "予以增列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6918.wav",
        "text": "\n非常感謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6919.wav",
        "text": "祝大家有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16101/6920.wav",
        "text": "美麗的晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/0.wav",
        "text": "各位列席的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/1.wav",
        "text": "人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/2.wav",
        "text": "提案併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/3.wav",
        "text": "其餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/4.wav",
        "text": "得這個部分行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/5.wav",
        "text": "我們就照內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/6.wav",
        "text": "跟各謝謝牛委員的我是覺得不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/7.wav",
        "text": "些都是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/8.wav",
        "text": "提案併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/9.wav",
        "text": "處理台灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/10.wav",
        "text": "協商議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16099/11.wav",
        "text": "中各黨團認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/0.wav",
        "text": "第5條增訂第7條之1第10條第十一條第十二條第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1.wav",
        "text": "增訂第十七條之一等8個條文跟相關修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2.wav",
        "text": "還有附帶決議10案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/3.wav",
        "text": "我必須說明依目前所條列的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/4.wav",
        "text": "所以第4條大概就是從第3項跟第4項來作處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/5.wav",
        "text": "也就是已經通過的條文就不再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/6.wav",
        "text": "\n哪一位要先發言的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/7.wav",
        "text": "討論過的我就不再重複了因為我是第一次來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/8.wav",
        "text": "\n針對第4條我提出一個附帶意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/9.wav",
        "text": "無論是常態性的人力編制行政人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/10.wav",
        "text": "但我還是要請教未來的行政人力員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/11.wav",
        "text": "到底會如何具體規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/12.wav",
        "text": "會不會因應服務的量能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/13.wav",
        "text": "行政人力比會有所調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/14.wav",
        "text": "呢因此我提出一個附帶意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/15.wav",
        "text": "就是希望未來教育部可以定期檢討學輔中心的組織編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/16.wav",
        "text": "適時研修以符合實務的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/17.wav",
        "text": "這是我針對第4條提出來的附帶意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/18.wav",
        "text": "\n當然重點還是在人力比的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/19.wav",
        "text": "所以我針對第十一條另外一項條文也有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/20.wav",
        "text": "修正動議就是未來高中以下每十五校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/21.wav",
        "text": "就要設置一名專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/22.wav",
        "text": "再加上每4,500名學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/23.wav",
        "text": "要設置一名專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/24.wav",
        "text": "這是我針對第十一條的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/25.wav",
        "text": "以上兩點跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/26.wav",
        "text": "好沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/27.wav",
        "text": "李彥秀委員針對第十一條的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/28.wav",
        "text": "我們到時侯再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/29.wav",
        "text": "針對第四條他也有一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/30.wav",
        "text": "正在印行當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/31.wav",
        "text": "\n還有沒有其他委員對於第4條有想法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/32.wav",
        "text": "對於我們已經通過的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/33.wav",
        "text": "有幾個地方我還是要稍微提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/34.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導諮商中心的正式編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/35.wav",
        "text": "牽涉層面真的比較複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/36.wav",
        "text": "我今天還是希望教育部至少要能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/37.wav",
        "text": "針對薪資提升保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/38.wav",
        "text": "薪資對齊的部分講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/39.wav",
        "text": "同時本席也針對本條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/40.wav",
        "text": "提出關於薪資的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/41.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為同工不同酬的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/42.wav",
        "text": "一定要藉這次學生輔導法修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/43.wav",
        "text": "當我們忽視實務現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/44.wav",
        "text": "同工不同酬的問題時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/45.wav",
        "text": "除了人力流動的困境沒有辦法改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/46.wav",
        "text": "很可能也非常難訴求好的服務品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/47.wav",
        "text": "和對孩子的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/48.wav",
        "text": "所以我們應該先照顧好心輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/49.wav",
        "text": "他們才能再幫我們照顧好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/50.wav",
        "text": "整個教育的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/51.wav",
        "text": "喔\n如果可以的話最後還是請教育部也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/52.wav",
        "text": "回應一下先前本席問過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/53.wav",
        "text": "關於行政人力的規劃謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/54.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/55.wav",
        "text": "我記得我們上一次在第4條卡了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/56.wav",
        "text": "其實不是在工作相關內容卡太久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/57.wav",
        "text": "我想要說的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/58.wav",
        "text": "我覺得上次彭署長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/59.wav",
        "text": "確實也讓我們重新更加確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/60.wav",
        "text": "可能會有的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/61.wav",
        "text": "包括會讓政府產生財務上的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/62.wav",
        "text": "或造成員額上的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/63.wav",
        "text": "\n我記得當時也有很多委員舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/64.wav",
        "text": "時談到家庭教育中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/65.wav",
        "text": "後來我們有私下跟教育部討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/66.wav",
        "text": "目前狀況到底是好是壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/67.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/68.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還有很多要討論的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/69.wav",
        "text": "所以到底是正式編制化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/70.wav",
        "text": "還是只是加薪這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/71.wav",
        "text": "其實我個人現在愈來愈覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/72.wav",
        "text": "我自己當然希望這些地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/73.wav",
        "text": "學輔諮商中心的專家學者們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/74.wav",
        "text": "等所有在幫助學生的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/75.wav",
        "text": "可以得到最好的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/76.wav",
        "text": "因為唯有他們把自己照顧好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/77.wav",
        "text": "他們才有能力照顧我們的孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/78.wav",
        "text": "可是目前的困境是如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/79.wav",
        "text": "或與地方政府的溝通都還不夠確切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/80.wav",
        "text": "我想先提出意見就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/81.wav",
        "text": "今天還要再保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/82.wav",
        "text": "啊我還是要強調一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/83.wav",
        "text": "當然我們可以再協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/84.wav",
        "text": "啦對我個人來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/85.wav",
        "text": "的如果今天對於所有條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/86.wav",
        "text": "大家都沒有太大意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/87.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法作突破的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/88.wav",
        "text": "的重點是要留住這些諮輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/89.wav",
        "text": "來說我覺得完全沒有意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/90.wav",
        "text": "因為做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/91.wav",
        "text": "我自己在這個領域裡面太久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/92.wav",
        "text": "太清楚第一線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/93.wav",
        "text": "實務工作者的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/94.wav",
        "text": "第4條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/95.wav",
        "text": "部分不管是附帶決議中的薪級層面或其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/96.wav",
        "text": "啦因為沒有薪資提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/97.wav",
        "text": "對於諮輔人員來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/98.wav",
        "text": "簡直就是空的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/99.wav",
        "text": "啦好不好\n請張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/100.wav",
        "text": "張雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/101.wav",
        "text": "過來是羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/102.wav",
        "text": "我要講的話跟召委是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/103.wav",
        "text": "的我還是非常在意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/104.wav",
        "text": "從我們禮拜一協商到今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/105.wav",
        "text": "針對薪點這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/106.wav",
        "text": "提出更具體的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/107.wav",
        "text": "因為這才是對現場老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/108.wav",
        "text": "也才是對我們的孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/109.wav",
        "text": "最直接的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/110.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/111.wav",
        "text": "教育部今天一定要清楚地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/112.wav",
        "text": "地告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/113.wav",
        "text": "可以做的方式是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/114.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/115.wav",
        "text": "請羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/116.wav",
        "text": "因為我們會覺得如果照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/117.wav",
        "text": "對於今天就能夠協商出一個結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/118.wav",
        "text": "抱有很大的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/119.wav",
        "text": "會覺得這一條可能很難談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/120.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠切中問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/121.wav",
        "text": "\n對於以家庭教育中心舉例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/122.wav",
        "text": "坦白講我們聽到的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/123.wav",
        "text": "並不是很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/124.wav",
        "text": "所以拿家庭教育中心的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/125.wav",
        "text": "來研擬的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/126.wav",
        "text": "尤其在於因應孩子年齡上的變化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/127.wav",
        "text": "像最近有一部新電影"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/128.wav",
        "text": "就是在講孩子的情緒變化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/129.wav",
        "text": "到了青少年階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/130.wav",
        "text": "其實是變化莫測其深的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/131.wav",
        "text": "所以對於專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/132.wav",
        "text": "我還是如同上一次強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/133.wav",
        "text": "畢竟他們這麼努力地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/134.wav",
        "text": "地付出卻得不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/135.wav",
        "text": "可以賴以為生的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/136.wav",
        "text": "逼得很多專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/137.wav",
        "text": "必須離開離職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/138.wav",
        "text": "留職率很低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/139.wav",
        "text": "甚至在外面賺到的錢更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/140.wav",
        "text": "我想每一個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/141.wav",
        "text": "都需要有人幫我們把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/142.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是要再一次拜託教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/143.wav",
        "text": "是不是能想盡辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/144.wav",
        "text": "幫我們在這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/145.wav",
        "text": "施以用力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/146.wav",
        "text": "雖然沒辦法正式化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/147.wav",
        "text": "我要表達一下態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/148.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/149.wav",
        "text": "好還有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/150.wav",
        "text": "\n請林宜瑾委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/151.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/152.wav",
        "text": "我整理了一個新的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/153.wav",
        "text": "增訂第4項跟第5項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/154.wav",
        "text": "我們民進黨所有教文委員會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/155.wav",
        "text": "都有簽署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/156.wav",
        "text": "所以也希望教育部能夠採納這個修正條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/157.wav",
        "text": "\n在這份修正動議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/158.wav",
        "text": "地方政府要有絕對的彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/159.wav",
        "text": "判斷學生輔導諮商中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/160.wav",
        "text": "究竟要採取常設性的任務編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/161.wav",
        "text": "或者正式化的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/162.wav",
        "text": "而且也因為教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/163.wav",
        "text": "特別舉了家庭教育中心的案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/164.wav",
        "text": "以提醒納入正式化組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/165.wav",
        "text": "未必可以運作得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/166.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在這一版修正動議中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/167.wav",
        "text": "特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/168.wav",
        "text": "如果要採取正式化組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/169.wav",
        "text": "必須先經過評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/170.wav",
        "text": "認為確實能夠有效發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/171.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心的職能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/172.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我也參照文化基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/173.wav",
        "text": "等五部法律的立法方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/174.wav",
        "text": "就是在合於財政紀律法規範的狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/175.wav",
        "text": "要求中央跟地方主管機關寬列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/176.wav",
        "text": "以降低學生輔諮中心人員離職率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/177.wav",
        "text": "提升專業者任職的意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/178.wav",
        "text": "同時也供應學生完備的諮商管道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/179.wav",
        "text": "\n再來考量到任何看似完善的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/180.wav",
        "text": "真正實施起來都發現有不足之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/181.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在第5項也特別要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/182.wav",
        "text": "中央跟地方政府應該逐年會商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/183.wav",
        "text": "並且檢討調整輔諮中心的運行策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/184.wav",
        "text": "以上希望召委教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/185.wav",
        "text": "還有各位同仁能夠一起支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/186.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/187.wav",
        "text": "好還有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/188.wav",
        "text": "的正式化或常設化這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/189.wav",
        "text": "我們已經討論很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/190.wav",
        "text": "我也看到她已經再作修正了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/191.wav",
        "text": "看起來可行性是滿高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/192.wav",
        "text": "等各種部分的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/193.wav",
        "text": "如果可以配合林宜瑾委員這項修正動議的話"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/194.wav",
        "text": "應該能夠得到足夠的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/195.wav",
        "text": "啦因為大家最關心的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/196.wav",
        "text": "薪資待遇會不會比現在更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/197.wav",
        "text": "嘛在現狀還做不到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/198.wav",
        "text": "如果以我們的附帶決議跟她的版本搭配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/199.wav",
        "text": "至少我個人有被說服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/200.wav",
        "text": "\n當然教育部也需要表達意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/201.wav",
        "text": "你們對這個版本覺得怎麼樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/202.wav",
        "text": "我個人覺得啦文字的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/203.wav",
        "text": "是可以請教育部表達意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/204.wav",
        "text": "啦但是身為26年的諮商工作培育者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/205.wav",
        "text": "我還是強調薪資的調整比什麼都重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/206.wav",
        "text": "我不在乎這些文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/207.wav",
        "text": "文字可能可以確定請教育部去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/208.wav",
        "text": "薪資的調整決定人才的留任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/209.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個東西講其他都是空的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/210.wav",
        "text": "這是我一向的原則好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/211.wav",
        "text": "一向的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/212.wav",
        "text": "至於文字的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/213.wav",
        "text": "對我個人來說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/214.wav",
        "text": "教育部只要確認大體方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/215.wav",
        "text": "特別是在第3項跟第4項的層面當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/216.wav",
        "text": "因為這是林宜瑾委員剛剛提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/217.wav",
        "text": "的所以請教育部根據她的提案文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/218.wav",
        "text": "再作一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/219.wav",
        "text": "分析\n利用這段時間我還是要再一次地強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/220.wav",
        "text": "說實在的潘文忠部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/221.wav",
        "text": "在當初發生割喉案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/222.wav",
        "text": "提到我都記得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/223.wav",
        "text": "600位專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/224.wav",
        "text": "會針對中大型學校擴充專業輔導人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/225.wav",
        "text": "搭配薪資提升跟升遷的留任機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/226.wav",
        "text": "這都是前教育部長所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/227.wav",
        "text": "薪資的提升跟留任機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/228.wav",
        "text": "本來就是對全國第一線工作人員最大的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/229.wav",
        "text": "對於今天的第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/230.wav",
        "text": "我們是需要花時間在文字上作一些斟酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/231.wav",
        "text": "大家各自版本附帶決議裡面所提出的薪資級等"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/232.wav",
        "text": "的請教育部千萬不要迴避"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/233.wav",
        "text": "啊\n我們先從文字上來討論但"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/234.wav",
        "text": "在看這些文字的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/235.wav",
        "text": "我還是要特別提出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/236.wav",
        "text": "對於諮輔人力為什麼我一直強調薪資很重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/237.wav",
        "text": "因為當初的起薪就是很低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/238.wav",
        "text": "啊這次修法就是在補破網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/239.wav",
        "text": "我說做不到做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/240.wav",
        "text": "而是你要去問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/241.wav",
        "text": "嘛我現在只問第一線人員需不需要調薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/242.wav",
        "text": "嘛你告訴我事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/243.wav",
        "text": "嘛要不要調薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/244.wav",
        "text": "都已經有點生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/245.wav",
        "text": "了到底要不要調薪"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/246.wav",
        "text": "如果你認為是的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/247.wav",
        "text": "那就應該在這個是的原則"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/248.wav",
        "text": "本席今天已經提出一個附帶決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/249.wav",
        "text": "我個人覺得對於第一線工作者來說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/250.wav",
        "text": "完全是足以能夠讓他們覺得他們的工作是被尊重的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/251.wav",
        "text": "我同意在第4條裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/252.wav",
        "text": "不管是在第3項或第4項的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/253.wav",
        "text": "但是針對附帶決議裡面的薪資"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/254.wav",
        "text": "一定要有一個結果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/255.wav",
        "text": "否則我們講別的都是假的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/256.wav",
        "text": "召委我們有看到你的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/257.wav",
        "text": "是不是就直接請教育部趕快回應我們一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/258.wav",
        "text": "育部先從本文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/259.wav",
        "text": "說明附帶決議通常是針對本文條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/260.wav",
        "text": "而且剛剛林宜瑾委員已經特別提到第3項第4項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/261.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就從條文過來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/262.wav",
        "text": "討論我剛剛也已經提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/263.wav",
        "text": "是要給教育部一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/264.wav",
        "text": "你們每個人都有看得很仔細嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/265.wav",
        "text": "都看得很仔細"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/266.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議很重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/267.wav",
        "text": "文確認完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/268.wav",
        "text": "這部分是所有委員都非常關切的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/269.wav",
        "text": "教育部還需要時間嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/270.wav",
        "text": "還是現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/271.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/272.wav",
        "text": "我今天也簽了一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/273.wav",
        "text": "與薪資相關的附帶決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/274.wav",
        "text": "不管是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/275.wav",
        "text": "柯志恩召委的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/276.wav",
        "text": "或是我的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/277.wav",
        "text": "我們的附帶決議通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/278.wav",
        "text": "林宜瑾委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/279.wav",
        "text": "這個修正動議才有意義"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/280.wav",
        "text": "我希望能夠一起通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/281.wav",
        "text": "要不然的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/282.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/283.wav",
        "text": "因為教育部現在還在處理文字部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/284.wav",
        "text": "我們先讓教育部有點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/285.wav",
        "text": "最後一次協商機會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/286.wav",
        "text": "大家所關切的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/287.wav",
        "text": "今天可以定案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/288.wav",
        "text": "因為教育部還在考慮這部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/289.wav",
        "text": "我就不浪費時間說明一下我的附帶決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/290.wav",
        "text": "如果是常設性任務編組的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/291.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員任主任督導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/292.wav",
        "text": "應該提升敘薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/293.wav",
        "text": "與原薪點平移晉等再晉1階起薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/294.wav",
        "text": "最高至9等6階"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/295.wav",
        "text": "主任應再予以現行之計畫主持人費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/296.wav",
        "text": "若輔諮中心正式化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/297.wav",
        "text": "於下列方式至少擇一聘之"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/298.wav",
        "text": "以鼓勵專輔人員久任升遷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/299.wav",
        "text": "亦利於中心正式化之銜接沿用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/300.wav",
        "text": "主任督導依照醫事人員人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/301.wav",
        "text": "以師三級本俸加專業加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/302.wav",
        "text": "並有年功俸等待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/303.wav",
        "text": "採計其年資起聘之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/304.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員擔任主任督導者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/305.wav",
        "text": "比照高中以下各級學校主任組長方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/306.wav",
        "text": "給予職務加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/307.wav",
        "text": "不低於公立中等以下學校教師及幼兒園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/308.wav",
        "text": "教保服務人員薪額一覽表的主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/309.wav",
        "text": "7,520元組長5,750元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/310.wav",
        "text": "有鑑於目前督導回任專輔人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/311.wav",
        "text": "其年資未被採計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/312.wav",
        "text": "不合理亦不利督導工作發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/313.wav",
        "text": "督導回任專輔人員時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/314.wav",
        "text": "應採計其年資提敘關於"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/315.wav",
        "text": "第三點我之前在討論的時候就提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/316.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有辦法放在條文中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/317.wav",
        "text": "所以我也希望放在附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/318.wav",
        "text": "3個月內研擬具體落實方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/319.wav",
        "text": "並向立法院教育及文化委員會提出書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/320.wav",
        "text": "以上說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/321.wav",
        "text": "好范雲委員也非常確實地提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/322.wav",
        "text": "該如何提高薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/323.wav",
        "text": "\n本人今天針對第4條所提出來的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/324.wav",
        "text": "因為現在教育部在確認文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/325.wav",
        "text": "好\n我們還是以本文為優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/326.wav",
        "text": "請教育部說明部長還是次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/327.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席還有各位委員的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/328.wav",
        "text": "我想我們的方向都是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/329.wav",
        "text": "只是因為在第4條第2項就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/330.wav",
        "text": "就已經明文指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/331.wav",
        "text": "高級中等以下學校主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/332.wav",
        "text": "應設學生輔導諮商中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/333.wav",
        "text": "這個應設就法律上已經有強迫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/334.wav",
        "text": "無論要設正式編制法定上的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/335.wav",
        "text": "編制內的正式組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/336.wav",
        "text": "或常設組織任務編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/337.wav",
        "text": "不需要再特別增列第4項規範設立常設性組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/338.wav",
        "text": "因為說不定也有哪一個地方縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/339.wav",
        "text": "覺得自己可以設置編制內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/340.wav",
        "text": "組織也就是從地制法裡增列這個機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/341.wav",
        "text": "\n另外最後一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/342.wav",
        "text": "降低人員離職率是不是可以考慮刪去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/343.wav",
        "text": "因為提升任職意願的另一方面已經等於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/344.wav",
        "text": "就法律上來講文字應儘量從正面表列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/345.wav",
        "text": "這樣是不是可以是不是適當請主席還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/346.wav",
        "text": "予以考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/347.wav",
        "text": "所以以林宜瑾委員條文的部分來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/348.wav",
        "text": "本條所稱學生輔導諮商中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/349.wav",
        "text": "以常設性任務編組為原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/350.wav",
        "text": "這句話就是澈底去掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/351.wav",
        "text": "這一項全部把它去掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/352.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/353.wav",
        "text": "好啦把第3項去掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/354.wav",
        "text": "\n然後在第4項的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/355.wav",
        "text": "為利學生輔導諮商中心運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/356.wav",
        "text": "降低人員離職率去掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/357.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/358.wav",
        "text": "好不好\n還有沒有人有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/359.wav",
        "text": "我們先把正式條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/360.wav",
        "text": "\n其實大家討論過就知道吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/361.wav",
        "text": "還有第十一條中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/362.wav",
        "text": "中不管是55班到40班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/363.wav",
        "text": "20校到15校這些討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/364.wav",
        "text": "就是這次整個立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/365.wav",
        "text": "雖然有8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/366.wav",
        "text": "但事實上真的很需要被用力討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/367.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其他委員在這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/368.wav",
        "text": "需要表達意見的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/369.wav",
        "text": "請教育部相關官員或人總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/370.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議中關於薪資的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/371.wav",
        "text": "仔細看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/372.wav",
        "text": "等一下提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/373.wav",
        "text": "好不好這樣比較快速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/374.wav",
        "text": "前面的第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/375.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/376.wav",
        "text": "增列第4項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/377.wav",
        "text": "為利學生輔導諮商中心運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/378.wav",
        "text": "提升專業及任職意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/379.wav",
        "text": "同時供應學生完備之輔導諮商管道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/380.wav",
        "text": "各級主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/381.wav",
        "text": "皆應寬列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/382.wav",
        "text": "並逐年由中央主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/383.wav",
        "text": "會商直轄市縣（市）主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/384.wav",
        "text": "檢討並調整運行策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/385.wav",
        "text": "有沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/386.wav",
        "text": "那個供應很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/387.wav",
        "text": "好像供應營養午餐一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/388.wav",
        "text": "同時提供學生完備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/389.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/390.wav",
        "text": "好可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/391.wav",
        "text": "\n我呼應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/392.wav",
        "text": "那我們就來看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/393.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議因為對於提升意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/394.wav",
        "text": "很重要的就是薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/395.wav",
        "text": "真的不要以為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/396.wav",
        "text": "啦沒有這種事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/397.wav",
        "text": "他們能到第一線幫大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/398.wav",
        "text": "本身就已經在作功德了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/399.wav",
        "text": "\n我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/400.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/401.wav",
        "text": "說明我們剛剛已經特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/402.wav",
        "text": "要會同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/403.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛已經提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/404.wav",
        "text": "主計處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/405.wav",
        "text": "共同研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/406.wav",
        "text": "請問人總跟主計處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/407.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/408.wav",
        "text": "加給部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/409.wav",
        "text": "提出建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/410.wav",
        "text": "請副人事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/411.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/412.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員各位先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/413.wav",
        "text": "我簡單報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/414.wav",
        "text": "輔導中心的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/415.wav",
        "text": "是正式公務人員的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/416.wav",
        "text": "自然就會進入正式公務人員的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/417.wav",
        "text": "下處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/418.wav",
        "text": "所以可以不必在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/419.wav",
        "text": "柯委員如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/420.wav",
        "text": "公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/421.wav",
        "text": "這裡就可以不用處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/422.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/423.wav",
        "text": "正式公務人員問題已經吵了好幾天了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/424.wav",
        "text": "輔導中心設置辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/425.wav",
        "text": "這是教育部主管的法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/426.wav",
        "text": "而這部分會涉及與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/427.wav",
        "text": "未來當然是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/428.wav",
        "text": "作為我們討論時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/429.wav",
        "text": "參考使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/430.wav",
        "text": "\n就第三點的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/431.wav",
        "text": "薪點目前是最高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/432.wav",
        "text": "把一般學校輔導薪點也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/433.wav",
        "text": "提高到跟保護性社工一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/434.wav",
        "text": "所面臨的第一線職場環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/435.wav",
        "text": "也會需要再跟衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/436.wav",
        "text": "回任的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/437.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/438.wav",
        "text": "因為他們是聘用人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/439.wav",
        "text": "本來就是從薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/440.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/441.wav",
        "text": "而衛福部這項補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/442.wav",
        "text": "是因為衛福部這項計畫補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/443.wav",
        "text": "的民間人員未必有專業證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/444.wav",
        "text": "所以當初是為了鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/445.wav",
        "text": "這些人取得專業證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/446.wav",
        "text": "衛福部才會推出這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/447.wav",
        "text": "方案為他們提高薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/448.wav",
        "text": "就是說沒有專業證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/449.wav",
        "text": "你雖然已經在民間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/450.wav",
        "text": "擔任這個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/451.wav",
        "text": "來就要有專業證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/452.wav",
        "text": "這個前提已經擺在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/453.wav",
        "text": "所以兩者的立法本意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/454.wav",
        "text": "不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/455.wav",
        "text": "但上次的報告完全沒有辦法說服我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/456.wav",
        "text": "當然是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/457.wav",
        "text": "就像我到我的學校任教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/458.wav",
        "text": "都有博士資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/459.wav",
        "text": "但學校還是因為有博士資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/460.wav",
        "text": "給予的薪資很低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/461.wav",
        "text": "我覺得你們每次談諮輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/462.wav",
        "text": "都要拿社工來綁標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/463.wav",
        "text": "例如因為社工人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/464.wav",
        "text": "你們本來就給人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/465.wav",
        "text": "是在地下室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/466.wav",
        "text": "本來是在地下室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/467.wav",
        "text": "道不能從一樓開始給他起薪嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/468.wav",
        "text": "來比這是我不斷提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/469.wav",
        "text": "所以不是用證照這個理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/470.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/471.wav",
        "text": "已經具有證照的人來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/472.wav",
        "text": "還是有其必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/473.wav",
        "text": "因為對於他們有證照的這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/474.wav",
        "text": "從一樓開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/475.wav",
        "text": "所以不是有沒有證照的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/476.wav",
        "text": "而是誠如我剛剛所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/477.wav",
        "text": "每個人進到學校當教授"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/478.wav",
        "text": "都要有博士學位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/479.wav",
        "text": "但是有博士學位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/480.wav",
        "text": "給啊不是因為你有才給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/481.wav",
        "text": "而是進來本來就需要這個資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/482.wav",
        "text": "還是一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/483.wav",
        "text": "你們每一次都引用因為社工人員如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/484.wav",
        "text": "就必須跟他們一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/485.wav",
        "text": "但對於社工你們已經給人家很低了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/486.wav",
        "text": "我想在場的每一個人都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/487.wav",
        "text": "所以今天不能用這個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/488.wav",
        "text": "這是本人要再次提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/489.wav",
        "text": "委員我跟您報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/490.wav",
        "text": "前面就是會由教育部會同衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/491.wav",
        "text": "加進去的薪點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/492.wav",
        "text": "不等於現在薪點表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/493.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才不建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/494.wav",
        "text": "每個薪點都固定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/495.wav",
        "text": "不存在於這個薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/496.wav",
        "text": "那也可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/497.wav",
        "text": "就像我剛剛說的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/498.wav",
        "text": "你如果覺得這部分不在你們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/499.wav",
        "text": "那就要告訴我怎麼加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/500.wav",
        "text": "會比較合適"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/501.wav",
        "text": "可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/502.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說要會同衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/503.wav",
        "text": "請問在我們今天協商之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/504.wav",
        "text": "你們是不是就應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/505.wav",
        "text": "跟衛福部有一些討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/506.wav",
        "text": "還有教育部不好意思喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/507.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/508.wav",
        "text": "時我說這是重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/509.wav",
        "text": "所以針對這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/510.wav",
        "text": "人總要會同教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/511.wav",
        "text": "衛福部一起討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/512.wav",
        "text": "請問你們事前有討論嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/513.wav",
        "text": "為什麼到現在為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/514.wav",
        "text": "還告訴我要再會同衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/515.wav",
        "text": "我們不是已經說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/516.wav",
        "text": "今天要討論這個議題了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/517.wav",
        "text": "你們到底有沒有會同衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/518.wav",
        "text": "沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/519.wav",
        "text": "我們今天坐在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/520.wav",
        "text": "道要眼睜睜看著你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/521.wav",
        "text": "那不是白搭嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/522.wav",
        "text": "這樣是在幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/523.wav",
        "text": "各位委員呼應一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/524.wav",
        "text": "難怪剛剛會說要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/525.wav",
        "text": "我們上個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/526.wav",
        "text": "就是以這個東西為重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/527.wav",
        "text": "你們不是告訴我人總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/528.wav",
        "text": "還有主計處衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/529.wav",
        "text": "大家都會一同討論嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/530.wav",
        "text": "你還告訴我要繼續討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/531.wav",
        "text": "你是把我們這些委員當傻子喔\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/532.wav",
        "text": "我們先休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/533.wav",
        "text": "本席就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/534.wav",
        "text": "還是一句話吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/535.wav",
        "text": "薪資的提升是最實際的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/536.wav",
        "text": "如果薪資沒有辦法提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/537.wav",
        "text": "還是留有非常多遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/538.wav",
        "text": "我們都很難面對江東父老"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/539.wav",
        "text": "\n來啦部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/540.wav",
        "text": "的或是范雲委員提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/541.wav",
        "text": "教育部請給一個說法好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/542.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/543.wav",
        "text": "這些心輔人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/544.wav",
        "text": "心輔人員具有專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/545.wav",
        "text": "而且能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/546.wav",
        "text": "有更高的留職意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/547.wav",
        "text": "學校推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/548.wav",
        "text": "學生的心理輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/549.wav",
        "text": "會後我願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/550.wav",
        "text": "跨部會努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/551.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/552.wav",
        "text": "委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/553.wav",
        "text": "在修學輔法的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/554.wav",
        "text": "我真的很感謝召委一直呼應我的辦公室的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/555.wav",
        "text": "我當然也支持這些現場的同仁們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/556.wav",
        "text": "可是我現在想要問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/557.wav",
        "text": "提高薪點折合率這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/558.wav",
        "text": "的算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/559.wav",
        "text": "其實我剛剛在聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/560.wav",
        "text": "真的還是沒有很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/561.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道現場的困境真的很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/562.wav",
        "text": "對於部長剛剛的回應我也真的很感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/563.wav",
        "text": "的督導回任年資問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/564.wav",
        "text": "這個我認同也包括職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/565.wav",
        "text": "真的要請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/566.wav",
        "text": "算員額的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/567.wav",
        "text": "單位給我們更專業的建議好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/568.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/569.wav",
        "text": "年資是可以算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/570.wav",
        "text": "但是加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/571.wav",
        "text": "方面既然他沒有當督導就沒有加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/572.wav",
        "text": "司長如果不再當主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/573.wav",
        "text": "以同職等變成督學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/574.wav",
        "text": "事實上就沒有主管加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/575.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個部分督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/576.wav",
        "text": "任的年資應該納進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/577.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/578.wav",
        "text": "但是因為回任以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/579.wav",
        "text": "是回任為一般的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/580.wav",
        "text": "心輔人員當然就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/581.wav",
        "text": "所謂的職務加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/582.wav",
        "text": "這跟他的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/583.wav",
        "text": "但起碼他當督導的那一段年資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/584.wav",
        "text": "本來就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/585.wav",
        "text": "是加薪茲事體大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/586.wav",
        "text": "的說法是承諾會努力爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/587.wav",
        "text": "也有可能還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/588.wav",
        "text": "回歸原點沒有爭取到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/589.wav",
        "text": "可不可以回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/590.wav",
        "text": "等一下既然部長要回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/591.wav",
        "text": "那我可不可以順便問另外一個問題也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/592.wav",
        "text": "召委的版本裡是第五點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/593.wav",
        "text": "召委您提了兩個方案一個是方案一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/594.wav",
        "text": "參考衛福部第二個方案是參考國內大專院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/595.wav",
        "text": "校我覺得這件事情是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/596.wav",
        "text": "也還是要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/597.wav",
        "text": "就是這兩個方案的優缺點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/598.wav",
        "text": "或哪一者更適合現場的實務狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/599.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛召委也提醒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/600.wav",
        "text": "還有地方政府經費的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/601.wav",
        "text": "在大的縣市問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/602.wav",
        "text": "會花很多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/603.wav",
        "text": "小的縣市搞不好就是補不足這樣的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/604.wav",
        "text": "在一併的考慮下其實需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/605.wav",
        "text": "有更多的意見讓我們知道好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/606.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/607.wav",
        "text": "我個人覺得啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/608.wav",
        "text": "培瑜委員雖然很謝謝你仔細地看我們這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/609.wav",
        "text": "不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/610.wav",
        "text": "因為我跟范雲委員其實都提得還滿細節的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/611.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個整併的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/612.wav",
        "text": "把我們這兩個附帶決議一併帶回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/613.wav",
        "text": "4個單位共同來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/614.wav",
        "text": "部長回應我剛剛所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/615.wav",
        "text": "都認為薪資調整是留任非常重要的一個關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/616.wav",
        "text": "部長也願意去努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/617.wav",
        "text": "那我剛剛只是多問了一句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/618.wav",
        "text": "如果行政院還是以他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/619.wav",
        "text": "自己的預算經費的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/620.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法達到任何結果的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/621.wav",
        "text": "還是部長在此時此刻可以給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/622.wav",
        "text": "在場所有的第一線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/623.wav",
        "text": "助人工作者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/624.wav",
        "text": "覺得我們真的有在幫他們爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/625.wav",
        "text": "還是得回去做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/626.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/627.wav",
        "text": "這個額度不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/628.wav",
        "text": "啦我還是要從政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/629.wav",
        "text": "加薪的那個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/630.wav",
        "text": "是我們在努力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/631.wav",
        "text": "既然大家的心念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/632.wav",
        "text": "我認為我是樂觀的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/633.wav",
        "text": "部長樂觀的操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/634.wav",
        "text": "舉例來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/635.wav",
        "text": "從4004百多加到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/636.wav",
        "text": "多少這個叫操作型定義好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/637.wav",
        "text": "部長你是樂觀的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/638.wav",
        "text": "比較外行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/639.wav",
        "text": "會朝我們的理想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/640.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會讓我們太失望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/641.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/642.wav",
        "text": "我想范雲委員已經講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/643.wav",
        "text": "我不會讓各位失望的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/644.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/645.wav",
        "text": "我還是要特別跟大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/646.wav",
        "text": "說一下因為薪資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/647.wav",
        "text": "這4個單位共同來研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/648.wav",
        "text": "啦但是我再一次呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/649.wav",
        "text": "社工人員我們還是要尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/650.wav",
        "text": "還是要給人家在薪資職等上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/651.wav",
        "text": "他們所遭遇的處境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/652.wav",
        "text": "其實也是相當辛苦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/653.wav",
        "text": "大家已經很對不起他們了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/654.wav",
        "text": "但是不能因為不想讓社工人員覺得有相對剝奪感"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/655.wav",
        "text": "所以把諮輔人員的薪資也跟著要扯平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/656.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣的概念是完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/657.wav",
        "text": "不能夠接受的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/658.wav",
        "text": "\n在我們的附帶決議有關薪資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/659.wav",
        "text": "就責成教育部部長來做一個統合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/660.wav",
        "text": "我們再一次協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/661.wav",
        "text": "一定要具體地把它提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/662.wav",
        "text": "這樣可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/663.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是可以先通過第4條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/664.wav",
        "text": "第4條條文我們就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/665.wav",
        "text": "\n附帶決議的部分我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/666.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/667.wav",
        "text": "總共8個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/668.wav",
        "text": "包括范雲委員林宜瑾委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/669.wav",
        "text": "還有葛如鈞委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/670.wav",
        "text": "柯志恩委員的剛剛已經說保留了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/671.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員你有4個好范"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/672.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員認為可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/673.wav",
        "text": "那所有的附帶決議就一起保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/674.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n我們進入到第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/675.wav",
        "text": "各位第5條完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/676.wav",
        "text": "其實最後就是第十一條比較重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/677.wav",
        "text": "還有我們先討論第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/678.wav",
        "text": "誰可以幫我回憶一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/679.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/680.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/681.wav",
        "text": "我們藍綠各有人非常為職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/682.wav",
        "text": "在發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/683.wav",
        "text": "\n請羅廷瑋委員跟張雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/684.wav",
        "text": "針對學生輔導諮詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/685.wav",
        "text": "還是希望能夠增加職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/686.wav",
        "text": "我再一次表達學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/687.wav",
        "text": "輔導諮詢會相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/688.wav",
        "text": "應該正面表列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/689.wav",
        "text": "我個人比較沒辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/690.wav",
        "text": "復健\n我要跟大家分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/691.wav",
        "text": "身體上的復健"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/692.wav",
        "text": "就我所知道臺中市是有所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/693.wav",
        "text": "物理治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/694.wav",
        "text": "他跟職能治療師其實是兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/695.wav",
        "text": "不同的如果上網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/696.wav",
        "text": "搜尋職能治療師其實它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/697.wav",
        "text": "還是有說明到職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/698.wav",
        "text": "在心理衛生領域扮演著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/699.wav",
        "text": "在國內眾多職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/700.wav",
        "text": "除了生理方面的中風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/701.wav",
        "text": "腦傷脊髓損傷在兒童方面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/702.wav",
        "text": "發展還有異常及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/703.wav",
        "text": "感覺統合相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/704.wav",
        "text": "治療都給予很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/705.wav",
        "text": "協助我想職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/706.wav",
        "text": "應該也在介入的範疇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/707.wav",
        "text": "也在是不是請衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/708.wav",
        "text": "能夠回答一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/709.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師爭取因為我過去長期跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/710.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師一起合作其實他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/711.wav",
        "text": "並不是只有做身體的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/712.wav",
        "text": "訓練跟現場的實務上面其實都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/713.wav",
        "text": "做非常多心理的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/714.wav",
        "text": "以我自己在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/715.wav",
        "text": "我也有看到很多小孩子其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/716.wav",
        "text": "還沒有得到特教生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/717.wav",
        "text": "鑑定資格或者是因為受限於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/718.wav",
        "text": "家長不讓他們去鑑定導致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/719.wav",
        "text": "他一直無法以特教的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/720.wav",
        "text": "去取得相關的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/721.wav",
        "text": "現在的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/722.wav",
        "text": "專業人員裡面去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/723.wav",
        "text": "列入職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/724.wav",
        "text": "讓所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/725.wav",
        "text": "小孩可以得到更多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/726.wav",
        "text": "支持謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/727.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝\n請陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/728.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/729.wav",
        "text": "關於職能治療師的部分確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/730.wav",
        "text": "我們知道在現場的實務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/731.wav",
        "text": "如果他要進入學輔法的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/732.wav",
        "text": "就會是當學生沒有被發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/733.wav",
        "text": "他可能有輔導的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/734.wav",
        "text": "他可能是因著別的生理因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/735.wav",
        "text": "而產生的困境所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/736.wav",
        "text": "我猜想雅琳委員或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/737.wav",
        "text": "羅廷瑋委員的建議是希望一併把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/738.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師邀請進來在這個團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/739.wav",
        "text": "裡面討論\n可是我想要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/740.wav",
        "text": "回到專業的角度來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/741.wav",
        "text": "請教教育部因為我們之前在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/742.wav",
        "text": "修特教法的時候其實有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/743.wav",
        "text": "意識到這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/744.wav",
        "text": "那我們自己後來在看學輔法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/745.wav",
        "text": "我們也問過教育部關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/746.wav",
        "text": "特教生的心輔資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/747.wav",
        "text": "概念落在所謂的特教老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/748.wav",
        "text": "還是落在三級輔導機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/749.wav",
        "text": "到底那個先後的順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/750.wav",
        "text": "是什麼我們當然知道很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/751.wav",
        "text": "不是看先後順序可是問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/752.wav",
        "text": "在實務現場它就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/753.wav",
        "text": "有先後順序的倫理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/754.wav",
        "text": "要處理所以我可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/755.wav",
        "text": "拜託教育部在這個部分先做回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/756.wav",
        "text": "先不說要不要放的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/757.wav",
        "text": "問題而是目前你們所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/758.wav",
        "text": "收集到的現場實務狀態大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/759.wav",
        "text": "會是什麼謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/760.wav",
        "text": "關於職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/761.wav",
        "text": "相關協會也有跟我們反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/762.wav",
        "text": "事實上輔導業務常常會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/763.wav",
        "text": "涉及到需要職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/764.wav",
        "text": "至少應該讓地方能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/765.wav",
        "text": "聘請職能治療師的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/766.wav",
        "text": "所以我是支持在輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/767.wav",
        "text": "輔導業務涉及的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/768.wav",
        "text": "找他們至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/769.wav",
        "text": "至於是要直接明文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/770.wav",
        "text": "臨床心理師等等還是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/771.wav",
        "text": "前款以外之學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/772.wav",
        "text": "明白指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/773.wav",
        "text": "包括或者是例如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/774.wav",
        "text": "我在文字上沒有特定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/775.wav",
        "text": "意見就尊重大家一起判斷我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/776.wav",
        "text": "能夠讓他們有個空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/777.wav",
        "text": "讓地方能夠聘請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/778.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師代表不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/779.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼制定我是很支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/780.wav",
        "text": "的\n另外我也想詢問一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/781.wav",
        "text": "上次好像沒有明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/782.wav",
        "text": "的部分就是在這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/783.wav",
        "text": "的第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/784.wav",
        "text": "是不是有納入輔諮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/785.wav",
        "text": "諮中心的專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/786.wav",
        "text": "因為目前只有相關專業人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/787.wav",
        "text": "以縣市層級的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/788.wav",
        "text": "輔諮會來講是不是會沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/789.wav",
        "text": "保障到輔諮中心的專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/790.wav",
        "text": "問一下這個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/791.wav",
        "text": "先回應然後請衛福部幫忙補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/792.wav",
        "text": "首先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/793.wav",
        "text": "在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/794.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導法第6條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/795.wav",
        "text": "第2項第3款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/796.wav",
        "text": "對於處遇性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/797.wav",
        "text": "輔導的內涵以及所提供的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/798.wav",
        "text": "服務已經說得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/799.wav",
        "text": "因為處遇性輔導最重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/800.wav",
        "text": "提供整合性的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/801.wav",
        "text": "整合哪些整合各類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/802.wav",
        "text": "資源跟各類的專業服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/803.wav",
        "text": "當然職能治療也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/804.wav",
        "text": "其中一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/805.wav",
        "text": "但不是只有職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/806.wav",
        "text": "包括家庭輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/807.wav",
        "text": "法律服務等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/808.wav",
        "text": "都包含在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/809.wav",
        "text": "因為現在的第5條第2項第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/810.wav",
        "text": "其實對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/811.wav",
        "text": "輔諮會的委員已經有明列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/812.wav",
        "text": "前款以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/813.wav",
        "text": "之學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/814.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是建議在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/815.wav",
        "text": "第5條的立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/816.wav",
        "text": "第2項第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/817.wav",
        "text": "前款以外之學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/818.wav",
        "text": "把它補充說明得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/819.wav",
        "text": "就是包含第6條第2項第3款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/820.wav",
        "text": "處遇性輔導裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/821.wav",
        "text": "需要整合的各類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/822.wav",
        "text": "專業服務的專家這些都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/823.wav",
        "text": "含括在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/824.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會把家庭輔導職能治療跟法律服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/825.wav",
        "text": "都列在補充說明裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/826.wav",
        "text": "把它列得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/827.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話可以避免我們只單列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/828.wav",
        "text": "職能治療而漏了其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/829.wav",
        "text": "可能需要的專業學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/830.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/831.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個陳培瑜委員剛剛有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/832.wav",
        "text": "輔導跟特教之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/833.wav",
        "text": "我先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/834.wav",
        "text": "在孩子還沒有被發覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/835.wav",
        "text": "或者還沒有覺察自己是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/836.wav",
        "text": "特教學生之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/837.wav",
        "text": "他可能會先感覺到在學習上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/838.wav",
        "text": "可能的困難或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/839.wav",
        "text": "情緒上的困擾等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/840.wav",
        "text": "會有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/841.wav",
        "text": "洽談或者諮商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/842.wav",
        "text": "的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/843.wav",
        "text": "輔導這一塊一定會先面臨到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/844.wav",
        "text": "這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/845.wav",
        "text": "所以在先後順序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/846.wav",
        "text": "應該是先輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/847.wav",
        "text": "尤其是在學習障礙跟情緒障礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/848.wav",
        "text": "先經由學校一般性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/849.wav",
        "text": "輔導一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/850.wav",
        "text": "並且作成觀察紀錄之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/851.wav",
        "text": "憑藉著這些輔導措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/852.wav",
        "text": "以及觀察紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/853.wav",
        "text": "來提報申請鑑定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/854.wav",
        "text": "鑑定通過之後他才能取得特教生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/855.wav",
        "text": "身分進而由特教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/856.wav",
        "text": "老師來提供特教服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/857.wav",
        "text": "不過因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/858.wav",
        "text": "鑑定相對嚴謹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/859.wav",
        "text": "也有可能在輔導一段期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/860.wav",
        "text": "觀察紀錄等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/861.wav",
        "text": "還不足以判斷他的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/862.wav",
        "text": "很可能也會鑑定他為疑似學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/863.wav",
        "text": "疑似生這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/864.wav",
        "text": "在目前國教署的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/865.wav",
        "text": "是已經允許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/866.wav",
        "text": "由特教來提供協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/867.wav",
        "text": "當然是很期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/868.wav",
        "text": "在服務的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/869.wav",
        "text": "更嚴謹地蒐集資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/870.wav",
        "text": "幫助他取得身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/871.wav",
        "text": "並且能夠很正式地納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/872.wav",
        "text": "特教服務的範疇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/873.wav",
        "text": "我先做以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/874.wav",
        "text": "等一下你剛剛是把職能治療師放在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/875.wav",
        "text": "然後你會在說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/876.wav",
        "text": "在立法說明裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/877.wav",
        "text": "把這些相關的包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/878.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師跟其他的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/879.wav",
        "text": "會連結的各類資源部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/880.wav",
        "text": "條列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/881.wav",
        "text": "好可不可以請衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/882.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有特別點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/883.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/884.wav",
        "text": "各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/885.wav",
        "text": "有關委員問到職能治療這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/886.wav",
        "text": "職能治療在精神衛生裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/887.wav",
        "text": "是相關專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/888.wav",
        "text": "至於要不要把職能治療師臚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/889.wav",
        "text": "臚列在諮詢會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/890.wav",
        "text": "人員上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/891.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重主管機關教育部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/892.wav",
        "text": "就是因為教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/893.wav",
        "text": "需要你們的專業意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/894.wav",
        "text": "在輔導現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/895.wav",
        "text": "但是他們更需要你們告訴他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/896.wav",
        "text": "你們就職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/897.wav",
        "text": "過往的工作經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/898.wav",
        "text": "也許有一些狀況可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/899.wav",
        "text": "跟教育部分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/900.wav",
        "text": "是給了一個解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/901.wav",
        "text": "可是我也不確定雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/902.wav",
        "text": "跟廷瑋委員是不是可以接受這個寫法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/903.wav",
        "text": "而且我相信一般人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/904.wav",
        "text": "遇到職能治療師的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/905.wav",
        "text": "可能在學校的現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/906.wav",
        "text": "是比輔導老師少很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/907.wav",
        "text": "少很多的原因是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/908.wav",
        "text": "過往沒有機會邀請他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/909.wav",
        "text": "所以少很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/910.wav",
        "text": "還是因為真的不需要所以少很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/911.wav",
        "text": "可不可以就你們的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/912.wav",
        "text": "告訴我們更多意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/913.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/914.wav",
        "text": "請問一下您是心健司的代表嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/915.wav",
        "text": "比較能夠回答這一題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/916.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師確實是屬於醫事司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/917.wav",
        "text": "所以我怕不同司會不會沒辦法回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/918.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是希望你能夠說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/919.wav",
        "text": "不要只是我們委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/920.wav",
        "text": "在幫他們講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/921.wav",
        "text": "我們希望衛福部來幫忙認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/922.wav",
        "text": "他的代表性或者他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/923.wav",
        "text": "職能上能夠協助到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/924.wav",
        "text": "真正幫助到的他的重要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/925.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/926.wav",
        "text": "角度來看職能治療師確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/927.wav",
        "text": "專業人員的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/928.wav",
        "text": "不過我覺得還是回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/929.wav",
        "text": "這個法條以教育部成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/930.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師這樣子的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/931.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/932.wav",
        "text": "回到教育部權管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/933.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/934.wav",
        "text": "當然召委我還是再次強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/935.wav",
        "text": "你看衛福部自己也有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/936.wav",
        "text": "精神衛生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/937.wav",
        "text": "重要的一個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/938.wav",
        "text": "所以我要再一次說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/939.wav",
        "text": "它不是身體上的復健"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/940.wav",
        "text": "以應該被正面表列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/941.wav",
        "text": "當然第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/942.wav",
        "text": "有所謂的前款以外之相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/943.wav",
        "text": "學者專家很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/944.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法一一地表列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/945.wav",
        "text": "我知道我能夠認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/946.wav",
        "text": "司長說的但是我還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/947.wav",
        "text": "精神健康的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/948.wav",
        "text": "第1款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/949.wav",
        "text": "相關專業人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/950.wav",
        "text": "我也是想要呼應這一點因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/951.wav",
        "text": "畢竟它就是精神衛生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/952.wav",
        "text": "這個可能過去大家並不是那麼熟悉啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/953.wav",
        "text": "所以你可能不會去找他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/954.wav",
        "text": "可是事實上他們的確在很多時候協助了很多孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/955.wav",
        "text": "要去做這些相關的心理輔導工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/956.wav",
        "text": "所以還是希望可以在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/957.wav",
        "text": "就把職能治療師列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/958.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/959.wav",
        "text": "如果衛福部都這樣說了我們還不把職能治療師列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/960.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼會把精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/961.wav",
        "text": "健康這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/962.wav",
        "text": "可以一起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/963.wav",
        "text": "溝通討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/964.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/965.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分還有誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/966.wav",
        "text": "通常對薪資比較有意見其他我都沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/967.wav",
        "text": "\n請范雲委員趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/968.wav",
        "text": "因為第1款看起來都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/969.wav",
        "text": "臨床心理師諮商心理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/970.wav",
        "text": "師社會工作師及精神科醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/971.wav",
        "text": "師如果我們放在第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/972.wav",
        "text": "直接說前款以外之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/973.wav",
        "text": "學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/974.wav",
        "text": "等呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/975.wav",
        "text": "會不會這個地位就更明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/976.wav",
        "text": "然後感覺上也不會排擠到第1款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/977.wav",
        "text": "的人員參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/978.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/979.wav",
        "text": "有更好的身分一起來貢獻這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/980.wav",
        "text": "都是正面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/981.wav",
        "text": "我還是想要支持在第1款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/982.wav",
        "text": "款教育部也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/983.wav",
        "text": "不過我們說實在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/984.wav",
        "text": "的在第一線的工作上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/985.wav",
        "text": "的確就是它所條列的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/986.wav",
        "text": "臨床諮商社工跟精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/987.wav",
        "text": "這4個大項是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/988.wav",
        "text": "直接對象這是事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/989.wav",
        "text": "這絕對是事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/990.wav",
        "text": "額外的部分做條列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/991.wav",
        "text": "不過這一點我們不堅持教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/992.wav",
        "text": "有這麼堅持嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/993.wav",
        "text": "教育部不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/994.wav",
        "text": "不是因為這是對象的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/995.wav",
        "text": "比較簡單的方式來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/996.wav",
        "text": "第1款是主力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/997.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導的主力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/998.wav",
        "text": "就是靠這4類人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/999.wav",
        "text": "通常我們是一個group對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1000.wav",
        "text": "職能治療家庭輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1001.wav",
        "text": "或者法律服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1002.wav",
        "text": "務其實是站在後面第二線支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1003.wav",
        "text": "的就是當前面這4類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1004.wav",
        "text": "需要外面的人進來支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1005.wav",
        "text": "才會拉到第二線去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1006.wav",
        "text": "但是如果要放在第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1007.wav",
        "text": "如同剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1008.wav",
        "text": "范委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1009.wav",
        "text": "進入條文文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1010.wav",
        "text": "我覺得進入條文文字會很強烈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1011.wav",
        "text": "啦如果單列職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1012.wav",
        "text": "真的太強烈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1013.wav",
        "text": "所以我會建議放在立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1014.wav",
        "text": "是比較婉轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1015.wav",
        "text": "而且立法說明可以說得比較完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1016.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1017.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1018.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是可以結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1019.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛那個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1020.wav",
        "text": "司長沒有回應我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1021.wav",
        "text": "就是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1022.wav",
        "text": "款我們所講的這些相關專業人員裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1023.wav",
        "text": "組成上有沒有專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1024.wav",
        "text": "因為那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1025.wav",
        "text": "如果是臨床心理師諮商心理師等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1026.wav",
        "text": "請說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1027.wav",
        "text": "我先說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1028.wav",
        "text": "社工師其實就包含在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1029.wav",
        "text": "了你當然也可以聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1030.wav",
        "text": "你的輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1031.wav",
        "text": "或者是督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1032.wav",
        "text": "當然你覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1033.wav",
        "text": "可能需要更師父級的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1034.wav",
        "text": "專家他就是第1款了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1035.wav",
        "text": "通常我們都認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1036.wav",
        "text": "這種比較屬於事務層級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1037.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1038.wav",
        "text": "能不能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1039.wav",
        "text": "學校的輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1040.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員也有代表參與在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1041.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我想再請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1042.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師其實是精神衛生很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1043.wav",
        "text": "一個專業對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1044.wav",
        "text": "有非常長的時間是跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1045.wav",
        "text": "學校的輔導老師或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1046.wav",
        "text": "心理諮商師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1047.wav",
        "text": "臨床心理師一起來工作呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1048.wav",
        "text": "回應一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1049.wav",
        "text": "我來回應好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1050.wav",
        "text": "在我們的實務工作現場當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1051.wav",
        "text": "以他們第1款所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1052.wav",
        "text": "相關專業人員來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1053.wav",
        "text": "我們完全沒有否定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1054.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師的專業這絕對是一個事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1055.wav",
        "text": "但是在我們那個group一起來工作的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1056.wav",
        "text": "的確臨床諮商社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1057.wav",
        "text": "就是我們主軸的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1058.wav",
        "text": "\n有關於額外延伸到職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1059.wav",
        "text": "表達藝術治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1060.wav",
        "text": "還有剛剛所提到的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1061.wav",
        "text": "專輔老師包括一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1062.wav",
        "text": "法律的諮詢顧問家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1063.wav",
        "text": "工作等等發展中心的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1064.wav",
        "text": "我們都會條列在其他相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1065.wav",
        "text": "學專這是我們過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1066.wav",
        "text": "這麼久以來在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1067.wav",
        "text": "工作group的分類上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1068.wav",
        "text": "的確是這樣的分法\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1069.wav",
        "text": "你真的是掛一漏萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1070.wav",
        "text": "所以他們才會用相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1071.wav",
        "text": "他們都很重要啊都很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1072.wav",
        "text": "對因為剛剛有講到到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1073.wav",
        "text": "我們要如何呈現職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1074.wav",
        "text": "這個部分他是說在學者專家之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1075.wav",
        "text": "做一個立法上面的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1076.wav",
        "text": "做一個立法上面的說明大家都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1077.wav",
        "text": "進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1078.wav",
        "text": "雅琳在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1079.wav",
        "text": "你看就是我們剛剛所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1080.wav",
        "text": "教育輔導心理犯罪防治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1081.wav",
        "text": "職能治療或藝術治療等相關學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1082.wav",
        "text": "他們會在這邊把它條列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1083.wav",
        "text": "好不好好謝謝各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1084.wav",
        "text": "修正通過\n我們看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1085.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1086.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法了啦廷好那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1087.wav",
        "text": "我講完就好了你可以好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1088.wav",
        "text": "職能治療協會感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1089.wav",
        "text": "羅廷瑋委員為他們大力地支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1090.wav",
        "text": "沒有放進去都是因為其他委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1091.wav",
        "text": "認為在立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1092.wav",
        "text": "就可以條列完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1093.wav",
        "text": "剛剛聽起來范雲委員也是滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1094.wav",
        "text": "立意良善就是要幫我們解套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1095.wav",
        "text": "啦雅琳委員也一起來支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1096.wav",
        "text": "大家都支持但我還是要再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1097.wav",
        "text": "表達我希望正面表列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1098.wav",
        "text": "覺得不宜那我也只好尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1099.wav",
        "text": "教育部就不堅持接受教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1100.wav",
        "text": "第2款的前款以外專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1101.wav",
        "text": "職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1102.wav",
        "text": "再一次感謝張雅琳委員跟羅廷瑋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1103.wav",
        "text": "委員列入會議紀錄他們從第一次到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1104.wav",
        "text": "現在每一天都為職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1105.wav",
        "text": "師來做最強力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1106.wav",
        "text": "我們可以把職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1107.wav",
        "text": "更好一點可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1108.wav",
        "text": "在次序上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1109.wav",
        "text": "可以把職能治療往前放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1110.wav",
        "text": "這麼多委員當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1111.wav",
        "text": "有兩位委員幫職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1112.wav",
        "text": "來做這樣的發聲真的很感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1113.wav",
        "text": "就跟召委說的一樣都很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1114.wav",
        "text": "只是他們找到我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1115.wav",
        "text": "然後我們就希望能夠發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1116.wav",
        "text": "不要漏了哪些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1117.wav",
        "text": "絕對是的絕對可以肯定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1118.wav",
        "text": "我問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1119.wav",
        "text": "啦我幫兩位委員問一下既然都要寫進立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1120.wav",
        "text": "了在相關的實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1121.wav",
        "text": "通常就是寫進立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1122.wav",
        "text": "學校或者是主管機關在組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1123.wav",
        "text": "學生輔導諮詢會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1124.wav",
        "text": "他們就有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1125.wav",
        "text": "嘛會有什麼實務上的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1126.wav",
        "text": "讓兩位委員知道一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1127.wav",
        "text": "實務上會有什麼困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1128.wav",
        "text": "他們原本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1129.wav",
        "text": "想要照顧團體的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1130.wav",
        "text": "在實際的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1131.wav",
        "text": "執行上可能會遇到什麼樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1132.wav",
        "text": "困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1133.wav",
        "text": "除了召委剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1134.wav",
        "text": "過往的工作慣性這個我們都可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1135.wav",
        "text": "會有什麼樣的困難嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1136.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1137.wav",
        "text": "沒有兩位委員就比較放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1138.wav",
        "text": "我先說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1139.wav",
        "text": "因為前面講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1140.wav",
        "text": "諮商心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1141.wav",
        "text": "臨床心理師社工師跟精神科醫師是主力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1142.wav",
        "text": "他一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1143.wav",
        "text": "介入性輔導到一個程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1144.wav",
        "text": "在進入到處遇性的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1145.wav",
        "text": "這個孩子有特殊的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1146.wav",
        "text": "他會依照學生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1147.wav",
        "text": "去整合服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1148.wav",
        "text": "所以那個部分就是依學生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1149.wav",
        "text": "你可以理解嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1150.wav",
        "text": "我們的輔諮會定期開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1151.wav",
        "text": "很有可能這一次討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1152.wav",
        "text": "下一次談談不到職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1153.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得各位可以理解我講的問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1154.wav",
        "text": "輔導政策規劃資源配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1155.wav",
        "text": "整體來討論如果沒有察覺有特殊的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1156.wav",
        "text": "就不會討論到職能治療的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1157.wav",
        "text": "對於我們的輔導工作有整體的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1158.wav",
        "text": "啦可是他不一定能討論到職能治療的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1159.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個是實務上的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1160.wav",
        "text": "如果各位委員已經充分表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1161.wav",
        "text": "是不是第5條就修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1162.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n第7條之1是陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1163.wav",
        "text": "被點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1164.wav",
        "text": "我已經講很多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1165.wav",
        "text": "可不可以直接通過就好好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1166.wav",
        "text": "我認真再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1167.wav",
        "text": "針對自殺死因回溯的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1168.wav",
        "text": "我們後來回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1169.wav",
        "text": "重新研究過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1170.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1171.wav",
        "text": "知道司長上次有講到學校有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1172.wav",
        "text": "相關的自殺死因填報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1173.wav",
        "text": "可是現在實務現場很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1174.wav",
        "text": "是簡單的填一填"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1175.wav",
        "text": "還有就是目前都是一個case一個case"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1176.wav",
        "text": "在填"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1177.wav",
        "text": "\n基本上假設我運氣很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1178.wav",
        "text": "我當學校輔導老師或是輔導主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1179.wav",
        "text": "我運氣很好我真的都沒有遇到類似的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1180.wav",
        "text": "可是如果我每年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1181.wav",
        "text": "有機會去開教育部相關的輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1182.wav",
        "text": "工作會議的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1183.wav",
        "text": "我能夠看到的都已經是教育部整理過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1184.wav",
        "text": "所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1185.wav",
        "text": "簡單歸因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1186.wav",
        "text": "教育部可能會說今年有百分之多少的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1187.wav",
        "text": "因為感情因素自殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1188.wav",
        "text": "可是我們知道絕對不會都是單一因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1189.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我們才會主張要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1190.wav",
        "text": "有更多積極的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1191.wav",
        "text": "關於這些自殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1192.wav",
        "text": "自殺未遂嚴重自我傷害個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1193.wav",
        "text": "的回顧調查研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1194.wav",
        "text": "然後公布研究報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1195.wav",
        "text": "把這個研究報告作為後續制定相關政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1196.wav",
        "text": "甚至作為這次學輔法修法完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1197.wav",
        "text": "所有在現場工作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1198.wav",
        "text": "老師們很重要的依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1199.wav",
        "text": "跟參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1200.wav",
        "text": "\n我認為我現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1201.wav",
        "text": "第7條之1不涉及組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1202.wav",
        "text": "的設立也不涉及人事的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1203.wav",
        "text": "其實沒有動用到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1204.wav",
        "text": "相關的規範應該不會讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1205.wav",
        "text": "人總或是主總再跑出來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1206.wav",
        "text": "所以現在的困難到底是不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1207.wav",
        "text": "還是不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1208.wav",
        "text": "\n還是說有什麼困難的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1209.wav",
        "text": "是我們沒有設想到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1210.wav",
        "text": "還是要請教育部回應謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1211.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1212.wav",
        "text": "教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1213.wav",
        "text": "然後我特別附帶剛剛沒有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1214.wav",
        "text": "的第7條之1的部分還有范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1215.wav",
        "text": "跟張雅琳委員所提出的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1216.wav",
        "text": "還有陳培瑜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1217.wav",
        "text": "針對第7條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1218.wav",
        "text": "我先做補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1219.wav",
        "text": "其實部裡頭這幾年因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1220.wav",
        "text": "感受到自殺通報的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1221.wav",
        "text": "增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1222.wav",
        "text": "很重視這個議題所以我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1223.wav",
        "text": "111年的時候曾經檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1224.wav",
        "text": "學校的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1225.wav",
        "text": "生自我傷害三級預防工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1226.wav",
        "text": "懇切的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1227.wav",
        "text": "花了半年多的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1228.wav",
        "text": "委託亞洲大學的柯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1229.wav",
        "text": "柯副校長然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1230.wav",
        "text": "也邀請了很多學者專家提供意見所以已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1231.wav",
        "text": "完成了那個工作計畫的修訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1232.wav",
        "text": "\n在這個工作計畫的修訂當中有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1233.wav",
        "text": "很重要的精神就是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1234.wav",
        "text": "每一個不幸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1235.wav",
        "text": "個案後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1236.wav",
        "text": "因為輔導人員在過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1237.wav",
        "text": "會對他有所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1238.wav",
        "text": "瞭解不管是家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1239.wav",
        "text": "課業情感等等都會瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1240.wav",
        "text": "他們會從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1241.wav",
        "text": "訪談的過程中瞭解這個孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1242.wav",
        "text": "的可能原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1243.wav",
        "text": "那我們會要求學校在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1244.wav",
        "text": "他自殺死亡之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1245.wav",
        "text": "一個月內基本上是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1246.wav",
        "text": "上網填報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1247.wav",
        "text": "經由輔導人員收集資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1248.wav",
        "text": "瞭解之後的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1249.wav",
        "text": "每一個個案都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1250.wav",
        "text": "我先說每一個死亡個案都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1251.wav",
        "text": "它的目的就是希望讓學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1252.wav",
        "text": "記取教訓理解在過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1253.wav",
        "text": "有哪些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1254.wav",
        "text": "學校環境的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1255.wav",
        "text": "或者可以提早做預防的不管是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1256.wav",
        "text": "課業輔導或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1257.wav",
        "text": "都會去做預防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1258.wav",
        "text": "然後我們也委託學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1259.wav",
        "text": "針對這些個案所有的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1260.wav",
        "text": "都撈出來他會做量化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1261.wav",
        "text": "的分析也會做質的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1262.wav",
        "text": "分析唯一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1263.wav",
        "text": "的是他所根據的是各校填報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1264.wav",
        "text": "的資料可能研究者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1265.wav",
        "text": "研究團隊沒有直接去訪談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1266.wav",
        "text": "個案的師長或者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1267.wav",
        "text": "家長沒有缺這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1268.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這一塊在運作上確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1269.wav",
        "text": "有相當程度的難度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1270.wav",
        "text": "之1第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1271.wav",
        "text": "辦法制定成法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1272.wav",
        "text": "我們認為這個涉及專業的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1273.wav",
        "text": "而且這個議題坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1274.wav",
        "text": "需要相當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1275.wav",
        "text": "充分的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1276.wav",
        "text": "我們是建議能不能不要急著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1277.wav",
        "text": "第7條之1就入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1278.wav",
        "text": "培瑜委員有提了一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1279.wav",
        "text": "我們是希望能夠依照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1280.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員的附帶決議來配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1281.wav",
        "text": "辦理我們也很誠懇地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1282.wav",
        "text": "願意來做這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1283.wav",
        "text": "邀集學者專家還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1284.wav",
        "text": "輔導工作者來進一步地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1285.wav",
        "text": "做討論我們確實需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1286.wav",
        "text": "藉由研究調查而且兼顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1287.wav",
        "text": "質與量進一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1288.wav",
        "text": "根據調查的結果來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1289.wav",
        "text": "提供回饋的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1290.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的輔導政策或者相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1291.wav",
        "text": "工作的規劃更到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1292.wav",
        "text": "培瑜委員有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1293.wav",
        "text": "做一些相關的研究去做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1294.wav",
        "text": "瞭解嘛在我的版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1295.wav",
        "text": "逐案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1296.wav",
        "text": "等一下請教育部來回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1297.wav",
        "text": "\n請陳培瑜委員再來是范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1298.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員先好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1299.wav",
        "text": "我本來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1300.wav",
        "text": "針對陳培瑜委員的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1301.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得如果能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1302.wav",
        "text": "身心健康不利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1303.wav",
        "text": "之系統性因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1304.wav",
        "text": "逐年公布去識別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1305.wav",
        "text": "化之研究報告的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1306.wav",
        "text": "可能大家看到這個部分壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1307.wav",
        "text": "就會小很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1308.wav",
        "text": "因為衛福部有講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1309.wav",
        "text": "其實這一類的個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1310.wav",
        "text": "非常難做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1311.wav",
        "text": "包括自殺被污名化遺族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1312.wav",
        "text": "悲傷調適的歷程跟相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1313.wav",
        "text": "方法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1314.wav",
        "text": "我記得之前我們公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1315.wav",
        "text": "的時候針對衛福部這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1316.wav",
        "text": "說法很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1317.wav",
        "text": "相關學者專家都認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1318.wav",
        "text": "樣子這跟你的研究方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1319.wav",
        "text": "跟各方有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1320.wav",
        "text": "但是這個其實是需要滿多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1321.wav",
        "text": "專業的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1322.wav",
        "text": "所以我也不堅持一定要放在這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1323.wav",
        "text": "裡\n最重要是說這個要做系統性的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1324.wav",
        "text": "我們是念社會學的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1325.wav",
        "text": "我們就覺得不一定要去觸及到個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1326.wav",
        "text": "你甚至可以從統計或別的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1327.wav",
        "text": "可是因為這個寫法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1328.wav",
        "text": "所以精神上我是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1329.wav",
        "text": "這個東西教育部一定要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1330.wav",
        "text": "但是要不要文字在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1331.wav",
        "text": "還是說我們保留再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1332.wav",
        "text": "我個人真的是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1333.wav",
        "text": "我們可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1334.wav",
        "text": "培瑜委員的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1335.wav",
        "text": "我覺得第7條之1這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1336.wav",
        "text": "在我們討論學輔的時候自殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1337.wav",
        "text": "絕對是重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1338.wav",
        "text": "有沒有必要把它放在正式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1339.wav",
        "text": "條文當中放在這一部法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1340.wav",
        "text": "教育部可能要表達一下意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1341.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論的時候其實有講過這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1342.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1343.wav",
        "text": "我以前在做兒少權法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1344.wav",
        "text": "其實是要求6歲以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1345.wav",
        "text": "要做死因回顧現在入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1346.wav",
        "text": "了但是6歲以下的樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1347.wav",
        "text": "是因為他沒有辦法表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1348.wav",
        "text": "譬如說他是被虐死的或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1349.wav",
        "text": "隔代教養或者是有什麼意外狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1350.wav",
        "text": "來做分析所以有死因回溯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1351.wav",
        "text": "\n但是到了6歲以上之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1352.wav",
        "text": "進入國小國中其實他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1353.wav",
        "text": "因素更複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1354.wav",
        "text": "我想召委是學那個應該知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1355.wav",
        "text": "同儕問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1356.wav",
        "text": "老師問題或者各種問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1357.wav",
        "text": "如果每個逐一都要去做研究的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1358.wav",
        "text": "也不是不行我覺得很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1359.wav",
        "text": "對不對但是我曾經問他們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1360.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能做他們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1361.wav",
        "text": "曾經有計畫做好之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1362.wav",
        "text": "錢準備好要發包沒有人要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1363.wav",
        "text": "嘛可能就是范雲委員講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1364.wav",
        "text": "在實務上你要去做研究的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1365.wav",
        "text": "所以它會有很多很難做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1366.wav",
        "text": "那是不是就不能做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1367.wav",
        "text": "其實在發生當下的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1368.wav",
        "text": "有一些勾選或者做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1369.wav",
        "text": "報告我是建議那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1370.wav",
        "text": "報告可以再精進一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1371.wav",
        "text": "將來可以拿那些東西來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1372.wav",
        "text": "然後能夠從分析的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1373.wav",
        "text": "裡面去找到可以預防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1374.wav",
        "text": "的方式\n其實最近韓國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1375.wav",
        "text": "也有這個問題韓國跟臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1376.wav",
        "text": "的學生自殺率都很高他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1377.wav",
        "text": "最近也在訂一些計畫希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1378.wav",
        "text": "3年後5年後能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1379.wav",
        "text": "降低啦所以我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1380.wav",
        "text": "像我們修了學生輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1381.wav",
        "text": "投入那麼多資源我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1382.wav",
        "text": "這樣的死因分析是必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1383.wav",
        "text": "的但是入法之後強制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1384.wav",
        "text": "逐案的話會有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1385.wav",
        "text": "如果是附帶決議我們絕對會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1386.wav",
        "text": "學特司這邊講我們應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1387.wav",
        "text": "想辦法去針對這些個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1388.wav",
        "text": "收集資料來做分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1389.wav",
        "text": "以上培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1390.wav",
        "text": "可以同意嗎用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1391.wav",
        "text": "的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1392.wav",
        "text": "我情感上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1393.wav",
        "text": "有所保留但理智上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1394.wav",
        "text": "我可以同意所謂情感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1395.wav",
        "text": "剛剛張廖次長講到一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1396.wav",
        "text": "很重要的原因就是韓國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1397.wav",
        "text": "跟我們臺灣有一樣的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1398.wav",
        "text": "其實剛剛兩位長官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1399.wav",
        "text": "用我的話講是一樣的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1400.wav",
        "text": "我們大人都不知道原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1401.wav",
        "text": "那研究的方法我也認同有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1402.wav",
        "text": "系統性的回顧調查很好沒有一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1403.wav",
        "text": "條文來看我沒有堅持要逐案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1404.wav",
        "text": "各樣的典範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1405.wav",
        "text": "可以去討論可以去做研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1406.wav",
        "text": "甚至把跨學科的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1407.wav",
        "text": "邀請進來都是重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1408.wav",
        "text": "\n但我還是認為如果不入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1409.wav",
        "text": "我想要請問一下附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1410.wav",
        "text": "我們當然知道它相關的效應是有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1411.wav",
        "text": "可是它也可能是相對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1412.wav",
        "text": "薄弱的我想大家都非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1413.wav",
        "text": "所以要求入法這件事情我只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1414.wav",
        "text": "覺得學輔法今年修完再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1415.wav",
        "text": "修又不知是何月何日何年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1416.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1417.wav",
        "text": "如果我們更改寫法有沒有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1418.wav",
        "text": "還是入法不要用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1419.wav",
        "text": "甚至參考范雲委員的版本我也覺得很OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1420.wav",
        "text": "我沒有一定要逐案回顧研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1421.wav",
        "text": "是啊保留然後研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1422.wav",
        "text": "好不好其實可以做成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1423.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議然後來做定期報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1424.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得這個很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1425.wav",
        "text": "好吧你們再回去討論保留吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1426.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛張廖次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1427.wav",
        "text": "可是把資料再做系統性的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1428.wav",
        "text": "又是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1429.wav",
        "text": "所以條文上目前是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1430.wav",
        "text": "保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1431.wav",
        "text": "跟我的薪資問題一樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1432.wav",
        "text": "下一次希望能夠有具體的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1433.wav",
        "text": "我們看第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1434.wav",
        "text": "大家都已經講說20班對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1435.wav",
        "text": "中學沒有問題12班嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1436.wav",
        "text": "目前為止在第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1437.wav",
        "text": "裡面有羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1438.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1439.wav",
        "text": "柯志恩委員范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1440.wav",
        "text": "特別提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1441.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見要表達的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1442.wav",
        "text": "\n請林宜瑾委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1443.wav",
        "text": "再來是羅廷瑋委員范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1444.wav",
        "text": "第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1445.wav",
        "text": "因為這一次我們的條文在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1446.wav",
        "text": "高中輔導老師的員額沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1447.wav",
        "text": "那上次范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1448.wav",
        "text": "有提到一個關鍵就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1449.wav",
        "text": "兼任輔導主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1450.wav",
        "text": "應聘員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1451.wav",
        "text": "比較小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1452.wav",
        "text": "只有一個輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1453.wav",
        "text": "專輔老師的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1454.wav",
        "text": "那一個專輔老師同時又擔任主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1455.wav",
        "text": "恐怕會造成老師真的很忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1456.wav",
        "text": "學生就會沒有被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1457.wav",
        "text": "充分照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1458.wav",
        "text": "也會讓老師不願意去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1459.wav",
        "text": "小校擔任專輔老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1460.wav",
        "text": "所以上次范雲委員有建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1461.wav",
        "text": "教育部看要怎麼樣調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1462.wav",
        "text": "或者是訂到子法上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1463.wav",
        "text": "這部分等等請教育部說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1464.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1465.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1466.wav",
        "text": "剛剛宜瑾委員說明得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1467.wav",
        "text": "輔導主管宜由輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1468.wav",
        "text": "專業優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1469.wav",
        "text": "所以原則上那邊應該是要優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1470.wav",
        "text": "可是這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1471.wav",
        "text": "就會受到影響我收到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1472.wav",
        "text": "滿多第一線的輔導老師跟輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1473.wav",
        "text": "主任的反映真的是需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1474.wav",
        "text": "這個條文其實務實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1475.wav",
        "text": "輔導工作因為他去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1476.wav",
        "text": "做行政工作可能耗掉一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1477.wav",
        "text": "的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1478.wav",
        "text": "這個時候如果沒有增加人力的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1479.wav",
        "text": "如果只剩下一兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1480.wav",
        "text": "老師要吃下所有的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1481.wav",
        "text": "輔導工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1482.wav",
        "text": "人數等於是你表項上的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1483.wav",
        "text": "東西就會受到滿大的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1484.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個就是原本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1485.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個其實這兩個工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1486.wav",
        "text": "也有一定的角色衝突譬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1487.wav",
        "text": "譬如你行政工作需要跨單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1488.wav",
        "text": "的協調容易出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1489.wav",
        "text": "輔導個別協助關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1490.wav",
        "text": "保密疑慮學生也會比較保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1491.wav",
        "text": "另外就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1492.wav",
        "text": "家長也會質疑輔導主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1493.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能夠用主任身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1494.wav",
        "text": "幫他的小孩爭取權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1495.wav",
        "text": "輔導專業的專長者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1496.wav",
        "text": "優先那這邊就會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1497.wav",
        "text": "原來的輔導量能所以希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1498.wav",
        "text": "教育部還是能夠去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1499.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1500.wav",
        "text": "輔導人力給學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1501.wav",
        "text": "很希望這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1502.wav",
        "text": "就能夠放在這裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1503.wav",
        "text": "否則我們原來很美意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1504.wav",
        "text": "第9條就會受到影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1505.wav",
        "text": "先這樣說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1506.wav",
        "text": "請羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1507.wav",
        "text": "我覺得現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1508.wav",
        "text": "輔導老師他們最擔心的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1509.wav",
        "text": "8月1日之後其實是新學期的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1510.wav",
        "text": "開始啦如果現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1511.wav",
        "text": "的話他們最擔心的就是自己的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1512.wav",
        "text": "這個部分以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1513.wav",
        "text": "好等一下一併回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1514.wav",
        "text": "請問一下國教署因為剛剛范雲老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1515.wav",
        "text": "的問題我覺得國教署可能等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1516.wav",
        "text": "平常的高中和國中是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1517.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題可是完全中學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1518.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止你們規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1519.wav",
        "text": "主任通常都要專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1520.wav",
        "text": "段如果它是完全中學的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1521.wav",
        "text": "國中的主任可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1522.wav",
        "text": "也要受到這樣的限制但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1523.wav",
        "text": "以目前的現實環境來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1524.wav",
        "text": "是想做行政的所以我個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1525.wav",
        "text": "一下好不好因為你剛剛提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1526.wav",
        "text": "輔導行政的問題所以我剛好想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1527.wav",
        "text": "回應\n完全中學的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1528.wav",
        "text": "你們現在是規定輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1529.wav",
        "text": "國中的部分並沒有這樣規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1530.wav",
        "text": "完全中學裡面的國中部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1531.wav",
        "text": "也要比照高中部這樣對他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1532.wav",
        "text": "\n如果不是完全中學就沒有這個困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1533.wav",
        "text": "只有完全中學有這個困擾這要從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1534.wav",
        "text": "修法這部分順帶提出來謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1535.wav",
        "text": "我想要問一下關於從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1536.wav",
        "text": "20班這件事情我們當然很肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1537.wav",
        "text": "但是我想要問一下之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1538.wav",
        "text": "2,088人的缺口對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1539.wav",
        "text": "好如果把范雲委員剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1540.wav",
        "text": "的建議放進來就是他們被抓去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1541.wav",
        "text": "當行政的時候我們就要再把人力補上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1542.wav",
        "text": "人的缺口嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1543.wav",
        "text": "如果是的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1544.wav",
        "text": "要拜託教育部再積極推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1545.wav",
        "text": "把人力補上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1546.wav",
        "text": "這件事情目前的工作規劃進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1547.wav",
        "text": "對不起這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1548.wav",
        "text": "這一條陳培瑜委員也有提附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1549.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以統一做這樣的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1550.wav",
        "text": "其實就是他剛剛提到的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1551.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以請教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1552.wav",
        "text": "根據這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1553.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1554.wav",
        "text": "教育部在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1555.wav",
        "text": "研議的時候我可不可以再補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1556.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我說的比較偏於國中小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1557.wav",
        "text": "高中的情況更嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1558.wav",
        "text": "因為這次我們修法高中的員額並沒有提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1559.wav",
        "text": "而且高中的輔導主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1560.wav",
        "text": "一定是主任輔導教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1561.wav",
        "text": "事實上它也會吃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1562.wav",
        "text": "到12班一人的員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1563.wav",
        "text": "他如果去當主任的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1564.wav",
        "text": "事實上這個工作量很龐大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1565.wav",
        "text": "\n例如現在教育部有友善校園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1566.wav",
        "text": "自殺自傷防治等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1567.wav",
        "text": "而且不管學生規模"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1568.wav",
        "text": "每個學校的行政量都差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1569.wav",
        "text": "實務上也不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1570.wav",
        "text": "出現讓所有專輔教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1571.wav",
        "text": "分擔行政工作的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1572.wav",
        "text": "所以這邊的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1573.wav",
        "text": "真的很希望教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1574.wav",
        "text": "可以考量這些狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1575.wav",
        "text": "一併改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1576.wav",
        "text": "請教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1577.wav",
        "text": "我分成三點說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1578.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1579.wav",
        "text": "我們的國小輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1580.wav",
        "text": "通常都有兩個專長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1581.wav",
        "text": "一個專長是一般教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1582.wav",
        "text": "可以當級任也可以當科任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1583.wav",
        "text": "因為國小是包班制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1584.wav",
        "text": "他是一般教師的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1585.wav",
        "text": "第二專長的學分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1586.wav",
        "text": "有加註輔導專長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1587.wav",
        "text": "所以他也可以擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1588.wav",
        "text": "專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1589.wav",
        "text": "這是國小的部分有雙重資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1590.wav",
        "text": "國中的輔導老師也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1591.wav",
        "text": "他既是國中輔導活動課的老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1592.wav",
        "text": "也可以擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1593.wav",
        "text": "國中的專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1594.wav",
        "text": "他也是雙重身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1595.wav",
        "text": "高中也有類似的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1596.wav",
        "text": "都是雙重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1597.wav",
        "text": "具有該階段的老師資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1598.wav",
        "text": "同時又有輔導專長也是雙重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1599.wav",
        "text": "的\n如果他要兼任行政的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1600.wav",
        "text": "其實校內如果有職缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1601.wav",
        "text": "可以調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1602.wav",
        "text": "只要把他的職缺調整為一般"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1603.wav",
        "text": "或者調整為輔導活動課的老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1604.wav",
        "text": "他來擔任輔導主任的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1605.wav",
        "text": "因為國教署有訂擔任主任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1606.wav",
        "text": "授課時數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1607.wav",
        "text": "所以他會減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1608.wav",
        "text": "課他的課自然會由其他老師幫忙分擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1609.wav",
        "text": "換句話說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1610.wav",
        "text": "當他調整為一般老師的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1611.wav",
        "text": "他的專任輔導老師缺就出來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1612.wav",
        "text": "啦就可以依照剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1613.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1614.wav",
        "text": "員額自然就可以補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1615.wav",
        "text": "員額可以調整的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1616.wav",
        "text": "這樣的方式就完全符合范委員的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1617.wav",
        "text": "困難的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1618.wav",
        "text": "如果學校員額目前是聘滿的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1619.wav",
        "text": "他一來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1620.wav",
        "text": "占專任輔導老師的缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1621.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法調成一般老師的缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1622.wav",
        "text": "這個時候在人力上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1623.wav",
        "text": "服務量能上確實會受到限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1624.wav",
        "text": "也許可以請國教署說說看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1625.wav",
        "text": "他們有沒有其他配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1626.wav",
        "text": "可以幫助這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1627.wav",
        "text": "范委員有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1628.wav",
        "text": "高級中等學校比較特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1629.wav",
        "text": "因為在高級中等教育法裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1630.wav",
        "text": "高中的專任輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1631.wav",
        "text": "所以它被限制住了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1632.wav",
        "text": "只能由專任輔導老師兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1633.wav",
        "text": "不像我們剛才說的國中國小可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1634.wav",
        "text": "轉成一般老師再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1635.wav",
        "text": "對是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1636.wav",
        "text": "上位階的學校來配置就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1637.wav",
        "text": "就是以高級中等教育法任用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1638.wav",
        "text": "所以有同樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1639.wav",
        "text": "看國教署是不是有一些想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1640.wav",
        "text": "可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1641.wav",
        "text": "因為由一般老師擔任就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1642.wav",
        "text": "輔導資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1643.wav",
        "text": "這個部分看國教署可不可以補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1644.wav",
        "text": "可能要去修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1645.wav",
        "text": "高級中等教育法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1646.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委和各位委員的提問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1647.wav",
        "text": "其實剛才吳司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1648.wav",
        "text": "大體上都說得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1649.wav",
        "text": "面臨的一些困境怎麼幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1650.wav",
        "text": "\n首先說到兼主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1651.wav",
        "text": "提到一個詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1652.wav",
        "text": "那個詞很特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1653.wav",
        "text": "專輔教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1654.wav",
        "text": "很特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1655.wav",
        "text": "剛開始的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1656.wav",
        "text": "它就是這樣設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1657.wav",
        "text": "有8個專輔老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1658.wav",
        "text": "其中一位叫做主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1659.wav",
        "text": "專輔教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1660.wav",
        "text": "和教官一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1661.wav",
        "text": "該校這一類的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1662.wav",
        "text": "的設計就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1663.wav",
        "text": "因此只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1664.wav",
        "text": "他能夠去當輔導主任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1665.wav",
        "text": "當時的立法者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1666.wav",
        "text": "但是時勢所趨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1667.wav",
        "text": "102年的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1668.wav",
        "text": "到現在10年後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1669.wav",
        "text": "老師的處境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1670.wav",
        "text": "學生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1671.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是不是給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1672.wav",
        "text": "都有考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1673.wav",
        "text": "就像羅廷瑋委員也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1674.wav",
        "text": "給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1675.wav",
        "text": "可能有一個附帶決議請委員給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1676.wav",
        "text": "\n至於國中小部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1677.wav",
        "text": "基本上剛才吳司長說的很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1678.wav",
        "text": "有三個縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1679.wav",
        "text": "換軌來考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1680.wav",
        "text": "主任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1681.wav",
        "text": "因為國民教育法的國中小主任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1682.wav",
        "text": "一定要經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1683.wav",
        "text": "甄選儲訓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1684.wav",
        "text": "所以一開始就不讓他來考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1685.wav",
        "text": "即便他要兼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1686.wav",
        "text": "任也不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1687.wav",
        "text": "所以有三個縣市不會發生委員說的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1688.wav",
        "text": "因為他無法跑到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1689.wav",
        "text": "主任軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1690.wav",
        "text": "目前大概有三個以上的縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1691.wav",
        "text": "會有委員說的這個情況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1692.wav",
        "text": "他們還是會先找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1693.wav",
        "text": "一般教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1694.wav",
        "text": "導老師的資源已經很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1695.wav",
        "text": "也向各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1696.wav",
        "text": "我查了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1697.wav",
        "text": "因為具有雙證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1698.wav",
        "text": "結果被歸到一般老師這邊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1699.wav",
        "text": "其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1700.wav",
        "text": "也有提到這樣夠不夠"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1701.wav",
        "text": "是歸到一般教師這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1702.wav",
        "text": "屆時整體的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1703.wav",
        "text": "是基於學校的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1704.wav",
        "text": "校內整體考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1705.wav",
        "text": "所以請大家幫我們一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1706.wav",
        "text": "給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1707.wav",
        "text": "因為有一些特別情況我們可能沒有辦法一概而論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1708.wav",
        "text": "只用一個原則就處理\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1709.wav",
        "text": "最後一點是召委所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1710.wav",
        "text": "的確它和第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1711.wav",
        "text": "有關近日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1712.wav",
        "text": "幾個完全中學也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1713.wav",
        "text": "我們會很明確地和他們一起探討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1714.wav",
        "text": "後續委員這邊的提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1715.wav",
        "text": "召委說會後再向您說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1716.wav",
        "text": "我只是反映現實的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1717.wav",
        "text": "我們這部法沒有修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1718.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員恐怕就沒有工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1719.wav",
        "text": "這一點可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1720.wav",
        "text": "郭委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1721.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1722.wav",
        "text": "全部都不會因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1723.wav",
        "text": "修法有任何的所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1724.wav",
        "text": "不會因為班級數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1725.wav",
        "text": "因為法的方向滿明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1726.wav",
        "text": "我們會馬上掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1727.wav",
        "text": "不會影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1728.wav",
        "text": "因為這個修法的方向滿明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1729.wav",
        "text": "我們會馬上調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1730.wav",
        "text": "關心和處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1731.wav",
        "text": "好麻煩給這些老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1732.wav",
        "text": "請培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1733.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1734.wav",
        "text": "我要echo一下范雲委員剛剛提的那個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1735.wav",
        "text": "因為署長剛剛回復的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1736.wav",
        "text": "說法我有一點疑問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1737.wav",
        "text": "主任專輔教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1738.wav",
        "text": "好所以回歸到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1739.wav",
        "text": "你們還是要回去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1740.wav",
        "text": "他是從盤古開天說起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1741.wav",
        "text": "保留好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1742.wav",
        "text": "再一次保留既然薪資部分都保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1743.wav",
        "text": "這一件就沒什麼好特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1744.wav",
        "text": "討論的一樣保留剛剛委員所提的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1745.wav",
        "text": "下次再來討論的時候一定要更確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1746.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1747.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員的附帶決議也一併保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1748.wav",
        "text": "好不好可以\n第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1749.wav",
        "text": "十一條最大的問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1750.wav",
        "text": "可是目前有很多駐校的老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1751.wav",
        "text": "所以就引發非常大的焦慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1752.wav",
        "text": "他們還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1753.wav",
        "text": "能夠把55班降為40班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1754.wav",
        "text": "55班降為40班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1755.wav",
        "text": "這樣的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1756.wav",
        "text": "把55班改為40班或者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1757.wav",
        "text": "者把20校改為15校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1758.wav",
        "text": "增加的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1759.wav",
        "text": "這個部分措辭說法不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1760.wav",
        "text": "產生很大的焦慮\n他們很害怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1761.wav",
        "text": "因為你們這樣的改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1762.wav",
        "text": "到其他學校服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1763.wav",
        "text": "教育部用20校這樣的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1764.wav",
        "text": "大家比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1765.wav",
        "text": "嘛可是對很多大校對駐校老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1766.wav",
        "text": "來說他們希望不要被分配出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1767.wav",
        "text": "好不好這是一個點是你們寫法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1768.wav",
        "text": "但你們如何保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1769.wav",
        "text": "一些比較大的學校這些駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1770.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是教育部必須解決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1771.wav",
        "text": "\n我先說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1772.wav",
        "text": "還要補充是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1773.wav",
        "text": "我還以為我已經補充的很詳盡了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1774.wav",
        "text": "這個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1775.wav",
        "text": "每40班以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1776.wav",
        "text": "應設置一名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1777.wav",
        "text": "像本席的版本是參照學校衛生法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1778.wav",
        "text": "就是規定每40班以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1779.wav",
        "text": "應設置營養師一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1780.wav",
        "text": "學校護理人員也是每校置一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1781.wav",
        "text": "所以還是要請教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1782.wav",
        "text": "慎重考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1783.wav",
        "text": "讓高級中等以下的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1784.wav",
        "text": "班級數在40班以上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1785.wav",
        "text": "要設專業輔導人員一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1786.wav",
        "text": "學校主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1787.wav",
        "text": "若所轄校數是15校以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1788.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1789.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們還滿堅持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1790.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1791.wav",
        "text": "我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1792.wav",
        "text": "還是希望輔諮中心專輔人員比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1793.wav",
        "text": "可以下修到每15校一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1794.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1795.wav",
        "text": "大校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1796.wav",
        "text": "真的非常需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1797.wav",
        "text": "希望能統籌運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1798.wav",
        "text": "可是真實狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1799.wav",
        "text": "專輔人員專業團體反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1800.wav",
        "text": "覺得應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1801.wav",
        "text": "保留大校的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1802.wav",
        "text": "是幫專科以上的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1803.wav",
        "text": "說話因為他們的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1804.wav",
        "text": "也有提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1805.wav",
        "text": "希望也能夠處理專科以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1806.wav",
        "text": "學校專輔人員的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1807.wav",
        "text": "好嗎這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1808.wav",
        "text": "如果第十一條要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1809.wav",
        "text": "修為15校和保留大校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1810.wav",
        "text": "不是我們先請羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1811.wav",
        "text": "因為等一下還有一些附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1812.wav",
        "text": "或許可以解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1813.wav",
        "text": "我認同前面幾位委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1814.wav",
        "text": "這個部分教育部可以正面回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1815.wav",
        "text": "和我們一起探討這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1816.wav",
        "text": "能夠露出一些曙光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1817.wav",
        "text": "不要保留我們可以正面處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1818.wav",
        "text": "看到兩位的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1819.wav",
        "text": "也希望朝這個方向努力以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1820.wav",
        "text": "謝謝羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1821.wav",
        "text": "請吳春城委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1822.wav",
        "text": "今天立法院很忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1823.wav",
        "text": "都在協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1824.wav",
        "text": "委員會非常努力從早上協商到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1825.wav",
        "text": "而且一片和諧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1826.wav",
        "text": "其實各政黨的意見一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1827.wav",
        "text": "出在教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1828.wav",
        "text": "基本上台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1829.wav",
        "text": "都支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1830.wav",
        "text": "我們好好的把這件事情做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1831.wav",
        "text": "起碼你表達我們教育委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1832.wav",
        "text": "可是我內心波濤洶湧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1833.wav",
        "text": "大校的部分目前是以55班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1834.wav",
        "text": "55班是不是372"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1835.wav",
        "text": "校如果改成40班就變成738"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1836.wav",
        "text": "校如果再往下人數又會是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1837.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請教育部說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1838.wav",
        "text": "讓大家更加心裡有數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1839.wav",
        "text": "而且如果大校條款通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1840.wav",
        "text": "然後改成40"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1841.wav",
        "text": "班總應聘人數的翻倍狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1842.wav",
        "text": "又會是什麼樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1843.wav",
        "text": "柯召委有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1844.wav",
        "text": "就是關於駐校模式的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1845.wav",
        "text": "我想要確認一下免得我們搞錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1846.wav",
        "text": "大校的駐校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1847.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心只是被調派去學校嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1848.wav",
        "text": "學校額外自行聘請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1849.wav",
        "text": "因為如果他是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1850.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心調過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1851.wav",
        "text": "那他不就又吃掉輔諮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1852.wav",
        "text": "多要的人力我不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1853.wav",
        "text": "請你們把相關數字算給我看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1854.wav",
        "text": "寫法造成我們對現場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1855.wav",
        "text": "因為我們好不容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1856.wav",
        "text": "讓輔諮中心增加人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1857.wav",
        "text": "員但是他又派去學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1858.wav",
        "text": "如果大家立意良善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1859.wav",
        "text": "希望大校有人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1860.wav",
        "text": "哪一邊要加人這部分要說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1861.wav",
        "text": "好嗎謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1862.wav",
        "text": "對這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1863.wav",
        "text": "班的作法然後用基數的方法計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1864.wav",
        "text": "會提出這樣的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1865.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道院版只要一提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1866.wav",
        "text": "要讓你們再翻回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1867.wav",
        "text": "班是很困難的即使有二十個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1868.wav",
        "text": "委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1869.wav",
        "text": "但院版既然已經把它改成以校計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1870.wav",
        "text": "要讓你們再翻盤很難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1871.wav",
        "text": "你們改用基數的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1872.wav",
        "text": "然後就造成很多駐校老師的恐慌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1873.wav",
        "text": "所以本席才提出這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1874.wav",
        "text": "這樣對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1875.wav",
        "text": "到的高級中等以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1876.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員總數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1877.wav",
        "text": "有沒有明確的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1878.wav",
        "text": "6%是不是有一個明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1879.wav",
        "text": "規範還有他們的輔導案量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1880.wav",
        "text": "的定義這樣可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1881.wav",
        "text": "會比較清楚以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1882.wav",
        "text": "請張雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1883.wav",
        "text": "特別幫駐校的輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1884.wav",
        "text": "有非常多文獻說到駐校模式的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1885.wav",
        "text": "可以保留駐校這個模式謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1886.wav",
        "text": "教育部一併說明我知道你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1887.wav",
        "text": "說實在的我認為還是要回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1888.wav",
        "text": "上次談到的20校改為15校不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1889.wav",
        "text": "才多58人可不可以考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1890.wav",
        "text": "現行的學生輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1891.wav",
        "text": "第十一條就有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1892.wav",
        "text": "縣市主管機關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1893.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心可以統籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1894.wav",
        "text": "調派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1895.wav",
        "text": "駐校的人員現行法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1896.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1897.wav",
        "text": "6個直轄市裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1898.wav",
        "text": "有4個直轄市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1899.wav",
        "text": "有統籌調度的只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1900.wav",
        "text": "臺中和臺南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1901.wav",
        "text": "兩個直轄市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1902.wav",
        "text": "至於一般縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1903.wav",
        "text": "統籌調度的情況非常普遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1904.wav",
        "text": "只有兩個縣市完全沒有統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1905.wav",
        "text": "我記得另外一個是新竹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1906.wav",
        "text": "\n所以輔諮中心統籌調度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1907.wav",
        "text": "是普遍存在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1908.wav",
        "text": "問題是在哪裡就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1909.wav",
        "text": "學校會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1910.wav",
        "text": "那個人是和你共用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1911.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心隨時可以調走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1912.wav",
        "text": "對學校來說這個輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1913.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員也會覺得很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1914.wav",
        "text": "因為我不只服務這個學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1915.wav",
        "text": "輔諮中心隨時會調度我還要去支援別的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1916.wav",
        "text": "從專輔人員的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1917.wav",
        "text": "從學校的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1918.wav",
        "text": "他們都希望你專心在我這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1919.wav",
        "text": "服務但是抱歉就人力資源的運用和整合由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1920.wav",
        "text": "由縣市政府的輔諮中心統籌確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1921.wav",
        "text": "是比較有效率的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1922.wav",
        "text": "而且為了因應學生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1923.wav",
        "text": "你要心理師我們就派心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1924.wav",
        "text": "你要社工師我們就派社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1925.wav",
        "text": "但是當他駐校的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1926.wav",
        "text": "多數都是用心理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1927.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是剛剛柯召委說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1928.wav",
        "text": "的因為第十一條院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1929.wav",
        "text": "版已經經過很嚴謹的審核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1930.wav",
        "text": "改變它是很困難的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1931.wav",
        "text": "我想教育部的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1932.wav",
        "text": "也是希望能夠支持院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1933.wav",
        "text": "版採取院版的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1934.wav",
        "text": "\n剛才培瑜委員有問到數字的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1935.wav",
        "text": "我先說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1936.wav",
        "text": "55班以上的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1937.wav",
        "text": "目前有372校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1938.wav",
        "text": "調降為40班以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1939.wav",
        "text": "變成738校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1940.wav",
        "text": "這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1941.wav",
        "text": "數量很可觀總共增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1942.wav",
        "text": "366所學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1943.wav",
        "text": "和原本55班以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1944.wav",
        "text": "幾乎兩倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1945.wav",
        "text": "按照原本的每20校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1946.wav",
        "text": "設一個專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1947.wav",
        "text": "大概是200人左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1948.wav",
        "text": "如果調成每15校設一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1949.wav",
        "text": "大概會增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1950.wav",
        "text": "63位左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1951.wav",
        "text": "增加的人數相對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1952.wav",
        "text": "總而言之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1953.wav",
        "text": "我們還是建議第十一條能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1954.wav",
        "text": "可不可以接受我的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1955.wav",
        "text": "讓駐校老師能夠稍微安心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1956.wav",
        "text": "是我剛剛說過為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1957.wav",
        "text": "大型的縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1958.wav",
        "text": "或人力充足的縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1959.wav",
        "text": "基本上希望輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1960.wav",
        "text": "派駐在大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1961.wav",
        "text": "因為大型學校本身需求原本就比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1962.wav",
        "text": "而且大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1963.wav",
        "text": "通常都在某些區域的地理中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1964.wav",
        "text": "以它為中心點去調度支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1965.wav",
        "text": "臨近學校其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1966.wav",
        "text": "可以在緊急狀況及時支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1967.wav",
        "text": "所以柯召委的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1968.wav",
        "text": "我們是支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1969.wav",
        "text": "對因為他們提供很多駐校老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1970.wav",
        "text": "就是要聽行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1971.wav",
        "text": "的既然行政院讓你們修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1972.wav",
        "text": "法如果整個又要重新來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1973.wav",
        "text": "我真的覺得茲事體大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1974.wav",
        "text": "還有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1975.wav",
        "text": "最後真的爭取不到的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1976.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼寫附帶決議的確是要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1977.wav",
        "text": "但我還是希望教育部考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1978.wav",
        "text": "有駐校專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1979.wav",
        "text": "就像剛剛司長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1980.wav",
        "text": "和輔諮中心協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1981.wav",
        "text": "已經很多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1982.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1983.wav",
        "text": "駐校的專任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1984.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1985.wav",
        "text": "這部分我還是希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1986.wav",
        "text": "你們的版本是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1987.wav",
        "text": "20校一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1988.wav",
        "text": "本席的版本是15校一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1989.wav",
        "text": "這部分剛剛有算出來其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1990.wav",
        "text": "就是增加63人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1991.wav",
        "text": "至於行政院的版本我們能不能再爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1992.wav",
        "text": "針對前面我們的期待剛剛教育部長不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1993.wav",
        "text": "有說他會努力再去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1994.wav",
        "text": "嗎所以我還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1995.wav",
        "text": "既然那個部分已經要去爭取了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1996.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是不是也能夠再去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1997.wav",
        "text": "已經幫大家爭取到比較好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1998.wav",
        "text": "條件也肯定教育部的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/1999.wav",
        "text": "但我們委員的立場當然是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2000.wav",
        "text": "既然要爭取別的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2001.wav",
        "text": "這部分是不是也可以繼續爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2002.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有回答我的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2003.wav",
        "text": "那個6%是不是可以更具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2004.wav",
        "text": "這一塊是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2005.wav",
        "text": "可以請國教署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2006.wav",
        "text": "協助補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2007.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2008.wav",
        "text": "還是要再向大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2009.wav",
        "text": "簡單的細節也很快的和委員們分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2010.wav",
        "text": "第一個召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2011.wav",
        "text": "如果通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2012.wav",
        "text": "一定要給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2013.wav",
        "text": "們不能隨便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2014.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2015.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2016.wav",
        "text": "如果用召委這個模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2017.wav",
        "text": "法條是指統籌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2018.wav",
        "text": "把那個應改成應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2019.wav",
        "text": "因為像新北市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2020.wav",
        "text": "他們好幾個學校變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2021.wav",
        "text": "一個駐區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2022.wav",
        "text": "然後配兩個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2023.wav",
        "text": "我們也不會覺得怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2024.wav",
        "text": "才不會有每年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2025.wav",
        "text": "我舉個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2026.wav",
        "text": "法通過以後會增加192人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2027.wav",
        "text": "左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2028.wav",
        "text": "絕對能夠含納現行的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2029.wav",
        "text": "反而是用第十一條現在的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2030.wav",
        "text": "以院版模式我們可以幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2031.wav",
        "text": "為什麼談到第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2032.wav",
        "text": "因為如果用我原來說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2033.wav",
        "text": "吸納所有的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2034.wav",
        "text": "OK不過到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2035.wav",
        "text": "這樣好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2036.wav",
        "text": "這樣就可以解決剛剛的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2037.wav",
        "text": "以及用宜來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2038.wav",
        "text": "兩個模式會對打的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2039.wav",
        "text": "好不過剛剛范雲委員對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2040.wav",
        "text": "護衛一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2041.wav",
        "text": "目前已經駐校的有55班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2042.wav",
        "text": "以上的中大型學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2043.wav",
        "text": "他們到8月1日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2044.wav",
        "text": "怎麼辦的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2045.wav",
        "text": "發文告訴他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2046.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分暫時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2047.wav",
        "text": "不會動好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2048.wav",
        "text": "好范雲委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2049.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛是基於院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2050.wav",
        "text": "如果你們連院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2051.wav",
        "text": "都有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2052.wav",
        "text": "那就看教育部的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2053.wav",
        "text": "一起保留再協商爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2054.wav",
        "text": "因為你們要爭取別的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2055.wav",
        "text": "嘛就是15校置一人這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2056.wav",
        "text": "校啦我算起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2057.wav",
        "text": "現在委員們是指"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2058.wav",
        "text": "剛才提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2059.wav",
        "text": "20校改成15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2060.wav",
        "text": "校並且同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2061.wav",
        "text": "樣就不是58人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2062.wav",
        "text": "對就不是了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2063.wav",
        "text": "對各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2064.wav",
        "text": "現在是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2065.wav",
        "text": "55班變40"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2066.wav",
        "text": "版本這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2067.wav",
        "text": "必須選擇一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2068.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2069.wav",
        "text": "為什麼說會有58人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2070.wav",
        "text": "人各位委員請看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2071.wav",
        "text": "因為原來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2072.wav",
        "text": "召委提的58人那個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2073.wav",
        "text": "是用第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2074.wav",
        "text": "就會再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2075.wav",
        "text": "人員這是兩大版本的折衷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2076.wav",
        "text": "但是也前進了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2077.wav",
        "text": "因為審查後又再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2078.wav",
        "text": "嘛基本上我尊重院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2079.wav",
        "text": "所以才提出剛剛被你們由應改為宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2080.wav",
        "text": "決議這是在尊重院版的條件之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2081.wav",
        "text": "可是到目前為止有委員對院版還是有想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2082.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n如果有想法的話我們是不是就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2083.wav",
        "text": "保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2084.wav",
        "text": "就保留了好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2085.wav",
        "text": "主席我問最後一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2086.wav",
        "text": "但是請幫我釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2087.wav",
        "text": "依照前兩項規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2088.wav",
        "text": "人員應由高級中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2089.wav",
        "text": "等以下學校主管機關統籌調派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2090.wav",
        "text": "並得委由所設學生輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2091.wav",
        "text": "或擇定之學校聘用之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2092.wav",
        "text": "目前實務的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2093.wav",
        "text": "還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2094.wav",
        "text": "很少有縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2095.wav",
        "text": "的輔諮中心是設在縣政府裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2096.wav",
        "text": "因為空間真的有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2097.wav",
        "text": "大部分都是借用學校的場地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2098.wav",
        "text": "學校場地的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2099.wav",
        "text": "所以它的人員聘任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2100.wav",
        "text": "差勤管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2101.wav",
        "text": "預算執行也都會委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2102.wav",
        "text": "對它就是另外的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2103.wav",
        "text": "連附帶決議一併保留好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2104.wav",
        "text": "但我要向各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2105.wav",
        "text": "第十二條和第十一條是連動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2106.wav",
        "text": "只剩下第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2107.wav",
        "text": "就是陳培瑜委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2108.wav",
        "text": "張雅琳委員和范雲的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2109.wav",
        "text": "文\n這是連動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2110.wav",
        "text": "請各位把握最後的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2111.wav",
        "text": "教育部一定有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2112.wav",
        "text": "我直接說了教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2113.wav",
        "text": "一定有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2114.wav",
        "text": "好討論過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2115.wav",
        "text": "第十七條保留那我們今天是幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2116.wav",
        "text": "召委至少有推進一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2117.wav",
        "text": "張雅琳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2118.wav",
        "text": "不好意思可以再回到剛剛那個立法說明嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2119.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛並沒有逐字確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2120.wav",
        "text": "我想要確認有關職能治療師那一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2121.wav",
        "text": "你們兩個真的是不放棄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2122.wav",
        "text": "這兩位認識職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2123.wav",
        "text": "我沒有說話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2124.wav",
        "text": "但是我也支持他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2125.wav",
        "text": "我想再確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2126.wav",
        "text": "確認一下職能治療師的部分第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2127.wav",
        "text": "不是的是立法說明那一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2128.wav",
        "text": "第幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2129.wav",
        "text": "而且還把職能治療師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2130.wav",
        "text": "另第2款明定為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2131.wav",
        "text": "前款以外之相關學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2132.wav",
        "text": "包含職能治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2133.wav",
        "text": "把它從第五個序位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2134.wav",
        "text": "兩位滿意了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2135.wav",
        "text": "看清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2136.wav",
        "text": "謝謝兩位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2137.wav",
        "text": "我們還有一個通案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2138.wav",
        "text": "有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2139.wav",
        "text": "這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2140.wav",
        "text": "額外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2141.wav",
        "text": "的提案前面這些都是保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2142.wav",
        "text": "現在有個通案的附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2143.wav",
        "text": "\n有鑑於本法增訂未成年學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2144.wav",
        "text": "同意下並經個案會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2145.wav",
        "text": "得本於兒少最佳利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2146.wav",
        "text": "不經家長同意進行輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2147.wav",
        "text": "諮商之規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2148.wav",
        "text": "請教育部於本法通過後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2149.wav",
        "text": "於施行細則或相關子法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2150.wav",
        "text": "或行政指引中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2151.wav",
        "text": "明定不受心理師法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2152.wav",
        "text": "限制之例外情形為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2153.wav",
        "text": "並加強與家長之宣傳溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2154.wav",
        "text": "以減少公眾對新制之疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2155.wav",
        "text": "OK嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2156.wav",
        "text": "協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2157.wav",
        "text": "不能只確定職能治療這四個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2158.wav",
        "text": "這樣就是我們的協商決議沒有這種事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2159.wav",
        "text": "建議一下已初審通過的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2160.wav",
        "text": "和立法說明會後是不是由教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2161.wav",
        "text": "第4條第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2162.wav",
        "text": "修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2163.wav",
        "text": "第10條第十一條第十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2164.wav",
        "text": "第十七條及增訂第十七條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2165.wav",
        "text": "含各條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2166.wav",
        "text": "對應修正的動議保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2167.wav",
        "text": "院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2168.wav",
        "text": "送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2169.wav",
        "text": "會保留及新增附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2170.wav",
        "text": "共十五案均保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2171.wav",
        "text": "送院會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2172.wav",
        "text": "其餘均照審查會審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2173.wav",
        "text": "立法說明一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2174.wav",
        "text": "今天得到的協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2175.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2176.wav",
        "text": "好非常感謝各位謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16096/2177.wav",
        "text": "請大家簽名一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/0.wav",
        "text": "條的修正動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/1.wav",
        "text": ")專輔人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/2.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/3.wav",
        "text": "也會需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/4.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議第四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/5.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/6.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16095/7.wav",
        "text": "詢會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/0.wav",
        "text": "文化委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/1.wav",
        "text": "第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/2.wav",
        "text": "第十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/3.wav",
        "text": "第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/4.wav",
        "text": "就是已經通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/5.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家應剛剛召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/6.wav",
        "text": "我就不再重複了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/7.wav",
        "text": "針對學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/8.wav",
        "text": "提出一個附帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/9.wav",
        "text": "見就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/10.wav",
        "text": "對於我們已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/11.wav",
        "text": "大家都沒有太大意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/12.wav",
        "text": "所以針對第4條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/13.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席針對第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/14.wav",
        "text": "如果以林宜瑾委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/15.wav",
        "text": "做出其他可以配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/16.wav",
        "text": "林宜瑾委員這個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/17.wav",
        "text": "不然的話我還有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/18.wav",
        "text": "所以我也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/19.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/20.wav",
        "text": "主席還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/21.wav",
        "text": "中包括第4條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/22.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/23.wav",
        "text": "位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/24.wav",
        "text": "是因為有博士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/25.wav",
        "text": "加給因為他們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/26.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/27.wav",
        "text": "會朝我們的我想范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/28.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/29.wav",
        "text": "是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/30.wav",
        "text": "認為如果這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/31.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會後再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/32.wav",
        "text": "位協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/33.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/34.wav",
        "text": "商其餘均照審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/35.wav",
        "text": "審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/36.wav",
        "text": "份\n這就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/37.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16094/38.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/0.wav",
        "text": "理\n這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/1.wav",
        "text": "我們就不要再回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/2.wav",
        "text": "這是我們民進黨王"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/3.wav",
        "text": "進黨王美惠委員所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/4.wav",
        "text": "甄委員提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/5.wav",
        "text": "那個部分我們希望也是回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/6.wav",
        "text": "罰當然你是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/7.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個是很OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/8.wav",
        "text": "保留以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/9.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/10.wav",
        "text": "我們現在我跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/11.wav",
        "text": "所以我們提出第44條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16083/12.wav",
        "text": "參與的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/0.wav",
        "text": "歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1.wav",
        "text": "國家發展委員會的鄭技正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2.wav",
        "text": "歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3.wav",
        "text": "法務部的林參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/4.wav",
        "text": "熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/5.wav",
        "text": "位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/6.wav",
        "text": "我想三個黨團都已經有代表在這裡了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/7.wav",
        "text": "黨團的總召有的在總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/8.wav",
        "text": "總質詢完畢以後會加入接後的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/9.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的鍾佳濱委員也到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/10.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨的張啓楷委員也到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/11.wav",
        "text": "我們等一下看狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/12.wav",
        "text": "大家要補充意見歡迎補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/13.wav",
        "text": "\n今天我們要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/14.wav",
        "text": "電業法第49條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/15.wav",
        "text": "本案經113年5月3日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/16.wav",
        "text": "立法院第11屆第1會期第12次院會決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/17.wav",
        "text": "自經濟委員會抽出逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/18.wav",
        "text": "由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/19.wav",
        "text": "目前共有國民黨黨團提案及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/20.wav",
        "text": "鄭天財委員等人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/21.wav",
        "text": "本案另經113年5月15日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/22.wav",
        "text": "由楊瓊瓔召集委員召集黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/23.wav",
        "text": "協商的結論是本案保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/24.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/25.wav",
        "text": "本次會議針對國民黨黨團及鄭天財委員等人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/26.wav",
        "text": "提案進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/27.wav",
        "text": "請提案黨團國民黨黨團說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/28.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/29.wav",
        "text": "有一件事情我想應該先澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/30.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/31.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/32.wav",
        "text": "\n院長各位同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/33.wav",
        "text": "本席在這裡代表民主進步黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/34.wav",
        "text": "針對昨天朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/35.wav",
        "text": "的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/36.wav",
        "text": "做一些澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/37.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/38.wav",
        "text": "韓院長在這裡都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/39.wav",
        "text": "我們也非常敬重韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/40.wav",
        "text": "昨天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/41.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有來參加協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/42.wav",
        "text": "事實上大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/43.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五協商完畢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/44.wav",
        "text": "我們就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/45.wav",
        "text": "這禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/46.wav",
        "text": "所以希望禮拜二再來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/47.wav",
        "text": "那韓院長說2點半就開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/48.wav",
        "text": "我說禮拜一一定吵架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/49.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜四就搞成這樣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/50.wav",
        "text": "昨天一定會發生狀況的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/51.wav",
        "text": "我們勢必不可能調虎離山把我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/52.wav",
        "text": "三長調來這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/53.wav",
        "text": "萬一那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/54.wav",
        "text": "沒有人指揮的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/55.wav",
        "text": "衝突起來沒有人去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/56.wav",
        "text": "也不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/57.wav",
        "text": "\n各黨的攻防策略當然我們都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/58.wav",
        "text": "所以第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/59.wav",
        "text": "我們在開黨團會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/60.wav",
        "text": "因為上禮拜五我們就針對這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/61.wav",
        "text": "有不同意見洪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/62.wav",
        "text": "一定要2點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/63.wav",
        "text": "我說4點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/64.wav",
        "text": "你還記得吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/65.wav",
        "text": "昨天）的事情很難控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/66.wav",
        "text": "昨天早上發生的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/67.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們再談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/68.wav",
        "text": "我就想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/69.wav",
        "text": "我和你之間的默契以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/70.wav",
        "text": "院長應該有這種道德勇氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/71.wav",
        "text": "昨天我們缺席以後他們在審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/72.wav",
        "text": "你應該講公道話就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/73.wav",
        "text": "事實上好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/74.wav",
        "text": "你並沒有講一些公道話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/75.wav",
        "text": "連傅崐萁也在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/76.wav",
        "text": "我講坦白的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/77.wav",
        "text": "缺席審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/78.wav",
        "text": "而且這個已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/79.wav",
        "text": "是大家都有默契的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/80.wav",
        "text": "所以昨天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/81.wav",
        "text": "9點48分的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/82.wav",
        "text": "我打電話給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/83.wav",
        "text": "今天剛好那種狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/84.wav",
        "text": "因為昨天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/85.wav",
        "text": "我們5點多就先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/86.wav",
        "text": "占領會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/87.wav",
        "text": "各黨的攻防我們大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/88.wav",
        "text": "在他的辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/89.wav",
        "text": "然後到一點多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/90.wav",
        "text": "突然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/91.wav",
        "text": "貼一個沒有蓋章的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/92.wav",
        "text": "結果換會議室是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/93.wav",
        "text": "國民黨在隔壁201"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/94.wav",
        "text": "門鎖起來然後偷偷打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/95.wav",
        "text": "然後又關起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/96.wav",
        "text": "那是怎麼換會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/97.wav",
        "text": "這些等一下再論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/98.wav",
        "text": "我只講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/99.wav",
        "text": "我們兩個之間的默契"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/100.wav",
        "text": "和我經過你同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/101.wav",
        "text": "9點48分我打電話給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/102.wav",
        "text": "我說院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/103.wav",
        "text": "我看這樣難解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/104.wav",
        "text": "要延期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/105.wav",
        "text": "延到今天就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/106.wav",
        "text": "你說好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/107.wav",
        "text": "沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/108.wav",
        "text": "我來問藍白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/109.wav",
        "text": "你要問藍白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/110.wav",
        "text": "你也很乾脆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/111.wav",
        "text": "負責的說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/112.wav",
        "text": "好沒問題我來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/113.wav",
        "text": "你放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/114.wav",
        "text": "10點半的時候你打電話給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/115.wav",
        "text": "而且我記得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/116.wav",
        "text": "我們總共通話只有1分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/117.wav",
        "text": "建銘你仔細聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/118.wav",
        "text": "我很簡短的講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/119.wav",
        "text": "很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/120.wav",
        "text": "三句話而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/121.wav",
        "text": "連續講兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/122.wav",
        "text": "你也去跟藍白講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/123.wav",
        "text": "第一個黃國昌沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/124.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁堅持要如期開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/125.wav",
        "text": "了這個會有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/126.wav",
        "text": "然後我們改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/127.wav",
        "text": "今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/128.wav",
        "text": "早上9點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/129.wav",
        "text": "那是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/130.wav",
        "text": "\n我說沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/131.wav",
        "text": "院長你辦事我們放心就這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/132.wav",
        "text": "你在1分鐘裡面把這個結論講了兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/133.wav",
        "text": "我說OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/134.wav",
        "text": "後昨天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/135.wav",
        "text": "後面的情況大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/136.wav",
        "text": "萁傅總召談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/137.wav",
        "text": "我說今天搞成這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/138.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼收拾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/139.wav",
        "text": "怎麼收場都還不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/140.wav",
        "text": "中間來來回回一直講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/141.wav",
        "text": "今天應該我還跟高金素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/142.wav",
        "text": "總之不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/143.wav",
        "text": "打得太厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/144.wav",
        "text": "有太大的衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/145.wav",
        "text": "所以我也私下找傅總召談了兩三次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/146.wav",
        "text": "我說傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/147.wav",
        "text": "明天再專心來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/148.wav",
        "text": "後來他跟我講說他今天有事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/149.wav",
        "text": "我說不要這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/150.wav",
        "text": "什麼今天有事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/151.wav",
        "text": "未來這些法案都很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/152.wav",
        "text": "而且禮拜五就要開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/153.wav",
        "text": "處理法案了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/154.wav",
        "text": "我們還剩禮拜五還有下禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/155.wav",
        "text": "這兩天而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/156.wav",
        "text": "也跟傅總召商量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/157.wav",
        "text": "結果3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/158.wav",
        "text": "後來衝突很厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/159.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷跑來找我說衝突這麼厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/160.wav",
        "text": "我說沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/161.wav",
        "text": "兩邊都把人馬帶開就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/162.wav",
        "text": "不要在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/163.wav",
        "text": "大家不用再吵了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/164.wav",
        "text": "再衝突下去可能不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/165.wav",
        "text": "所以我和傅總召兩個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/166.wav",
        "text": "就去把人帶開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/167.wav",
        "text": "恢復平靜以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/168.wav",
        "text": "我們開記者會完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/169.wav",
        "text": "結果我們在開黨團會議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/170.wav",
        "text": "這邊開始在罵我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/171.wav",
        "text": "我看黃國昌匆匆跑來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/172.wav",
        "text": "我們都是一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/173.wav",
        "text": "講話就是一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/174.wav",
        "text": "你說白的沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/175.wav",
        "text": "藍的有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/176.wav",
        "text": "然後我們就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/177.wav",
        "text": "的一句話當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/178.wav",
        "text": "我們後續的安排不管怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/179.wav",
        "text": "我們要把整個做完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/180.wav",
        "text": "我要拜託韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/181.wav",
        "text": "第一個你作為院長應該有一定的中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/182.wav",
        "text": "當他們在罵我們的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/183.wav",
        "text": "你讓他們每一個罵一輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/184.wav",
        "text": "這個我跟柯總召都談好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/185.wav",
        "text": "應該是馬上制止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/186.wav",
        "text": "不要在那邊私下公審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/187.wav",
        "text": "在那邊講得很難聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/188.wav",
        "text": "所以當院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/189.wav",
        "text": "必須要有一定的高度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/190.wav",
        "text": "你應該很清楚表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/191.wav",
        "text": "我必須提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/192.wav",
        "text": "我的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/193.wav",
        "text": "以及向韓院長說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/194.wav",
        "text": "跟黃國昌也講好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/195.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/196.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點我要在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/197.wav",
        "text": "當初盧縣一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/198.wav",
        "text": "在大陸還投票我們要調錄影帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/199.wav",
        "text": "院方都不給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/200.wav",
        "text": "今天我要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/201.wav",
        "text": "立法院的錄影帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/202.wav",
        "text": "一定有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/203.wav",
        "text": "嘛我記得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/204.wav",
        "text": "過去連檢調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/205.wav",
        "text": "要來調我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/206.wav",
        "text": "立法院的錄影帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/207.wav",
        "text": "要辦案子那時候高虹安的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/208.wav",
        "text": "第一個先拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/209.wav",
        "text": "然後你來搜索吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/210.wav",
        "text": "他就先拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/211.wav",
        "text": "了也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/212.wav",
        "text": "一定有調閱辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/213.wav",
        "text": "誰去申請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/214.wav",
        "text": "誰去申請的馬上就拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/215.wav",
        "text": "這等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/216.wav",
        "text": "秘書長或總務處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/217.wav",
        "text": "必須回答的問題嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/218.wav",
        "text": "可以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/219.wav",
        "text": "國民黨拿出來外面散播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/220.wav",
        "text": "做攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/221.wav",
        "text": "假如這樣也可以的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/222.wav",
        "text": "有沒有違反個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/223.wav",
        "text": "資其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/224.wav",
        "text": "就只能去看而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/225.wav",
        "text": "為了這個事情在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/226.wav",
        "text": "吵過很厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/227.wav",
        "text": "是用什麼辦法誰去申請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/228.wav",
        "text": "有沒有申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/229.wav",
        "text": "還是口頭一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/230.wav",
        "text": "拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/231.wav",
        "text": "這是有影響到個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/232.wav",
        "text": "有影響到立法院安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/233.wav",
        "text": "而且我在這裡講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/234.wav",
        "text": "話錄影帶一看就是黃捷去開的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/235.wav",
        "text": "你還這樣講說假如外面的人進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/236.wav",
        "text": "不要亂添油加醋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/237.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/238.wav",
        "text": "沒有鎖匠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/239.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/240.wav",
        "text": "沒有外面的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/241.wav",
        "text": "朝野攻防各出奇招"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/242.wav",
        "text": "我們今天談的是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/243.wav",
        "text": "我們要這樣的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/244.wav",
        "text": "因為過去國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/245.wav",
        "text": "不是為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/246.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/247.wav",
        "text": "這樣占領立法院議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/248.wav",
        "text": "然後用這樣子表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/249.wav",
        "text": "明天下午大法官要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/250.wav",
        "text": "開審理庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/251.wav",
        "text": "明天院長都要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/252.wav",
        "text": "所以很多事情要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/253.wav",
        "text": "前因後果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/254.wav",
        "text": "天天都有的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/255.wav",
        "text": "只要在程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/256.wav",
        "text": "各黨有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/257.wav",
        "text": "自己的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/258.wav",
        "text": "要這樣講究的話根本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/259.wav",
        "text": "講究不完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/260.wav",
        "text": "為什麼國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/261.wav",
        "text": "你們可以占領"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/262.wav",
        "text": "528的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/263.wav",
        "text": "總共占領4天這樣表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/264.wav",
        "text": "現在又怕被罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/265.wav",
        "text": "我們反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/266.wav",
        "text": "沒有罷免的選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/267.wav",
        "text": "而且不能集權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/268.wav",
        "text": "樣在修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/269.wav",
        "text": "你用同樣的選罷法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/270.wav",
        "text": "罷免了3Q"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/271.wav",
        "text": "黃捷過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/272.wav",
        "text": "也罷免過王浩宇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/273.wav",
        "text": "但是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/274.wav",
        "text": "又要修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/275.wav",
        "text": "因果關係大家弄清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/276.wav",
        "text": "我今天要講的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/277.wav",
        "text": "院方一定要中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/278.wav",
        "text": "假如這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/279.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是可以調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/280.wav",
        "text": "調錄影帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/281.wav",
        "text": "到國民黨201的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/282.wav",
        "text": "為什麼昨天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/283.wav",
        "text": "開會時間到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/284.wav",
        "text": "議事人員全部不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/285.wav",
        "text": "呢也沒有簽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/286.wav",
        "text": "資料也都不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/287.wav",
        "text": "人都不見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/288.wav",
        "text": "凡此種種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/289.wav",
        "text": "坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/290.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/291.wav",
        "text": "你的中立性是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/292.wav",
        "text": "我們都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/293.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/294.wav",
        "text": "我聽洪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/295.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷主張說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/296.wav",
        "text": "昨天下午兩點半要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/297.wav",
        "text": "我就當然反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/298.wav",
        "text": "而且這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/299.wav",
        "text": "這不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/300.wav",
        "text": "你要澈底中立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/301.wav",
        "text": "誰都可以預判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/302.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜五都可以預判因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/303.wav",
        "text": "國民黨馬上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/304.wav",
        "text": "它沒有馬上開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/305.wav",
        "text": "嘛你可以預判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/306.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一一定會有大事情發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/307.wav",
        "text": "怎麼禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/308.wav",
        "text": "故意要來朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/309.wav",
        "text": "然後說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/310.wav",
        "text": "我們朝野協商不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/311.wav",
        "text": "我在立法院當總召當了二十幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/312.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商我從來不缺席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/313.wav",
        "text": "別人不來我還是在那邊坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/314.wav",
        "text": "但是大家有原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/315.wav",
        "text": "可以商量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/316.wav",
        "text": "改時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/317.wav",
        "text": "當然是都可以商量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/318.wav",
        "text": "包括我們這會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/319.wav",
        "text": "你當院長以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/320.wav",
        "text": "很多要朝野協商的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/321.wav",
        "text": "你都徵詢大家可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/322.wav",
        "text": "我都儘量配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/323.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/324.wav",
        "text": "所以不要在那邊講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/325.wav",
        "text": "民進黨拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/326.wav",
        "text": "這些都是極大的不道德"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/327.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召提了兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/328.wav",
        "text": "我從第二個先講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/329.wav",
        "text": "就鎖匠這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/330.wav",
        "text": "昨天在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/331.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院某一位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/332.wav",
        "text": "帶著一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/333.wav",
        "text": "類似像秘書這樣的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/334.wav",
        "text": "去開這個門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/335.wav",
        "text": "錄影帶的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/336.wav",
        "text": "我們在散會之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/337.wav",
        "text": "會跟各位做一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/338.wav",
        "text": "總務人員還不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/339.wav",
        "text": "我不浪費寶貴時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/340.wav",
        "text": "等一下散會之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/341.wav",
        "text": "會做一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/342.wav",
        "text": "第一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/343.wav",
        "text": "柯總召非常堅持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/344.wav",
        "text": "是上禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/345.wav",
        "text": "協調昨天開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/346.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/347.wav",
        "text": "柯總召所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/348.wav",
        "text": "每一個環節都是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/349.wav",
        "text": "他所做的跟我聯絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/350.wav",
        "text": "打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/351.wav",
        "text": "包括洪孟楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/352.wav",
        "text": "書記長跟我聯絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/353.wav",
        "text": "是不是不要開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/354.wav",
        "text": "我說不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/355.wav",
        "text": "已經有點不夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/356.wav",
        "text": "要開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/357.wav",
        "text": "然後洪孟楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/358.wav",
        "text": "委員希望2點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/359.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召希望4點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/360.wav",
        "text": "所以我們折衷是3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/361.wav",
        "text": "這也是確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/362.wav",
        "text": "早上他也給我打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/363.wav",
        "text": "說今天實在太忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/364.wav",
        "text": "大概沒辦法開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/365.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨是尊重我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/366.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是要到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/367.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有承諾"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/368.wav",
        "text": "而且經濟部郭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/369.wav",
        "text": "跟各位列席官員都到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/370.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是來了現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/371.wav",
        "text": "我特別要澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/372.wav",
        "text": "因為行政部門看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/373.wav",
        "text": "立法委員之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/374.wav",
        "text": "我特別在中間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/375.wav",
        "text": "還說經濟部長請回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/376.wav",
        "text": "請他們休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/377.wav",
        "text": "還特別跟他們道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/378.wav",
        "text": "因為對他們不禮貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/379.wav",
        "text": "\n我要跟柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/380.wav",
        "text": "特別澄清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/381.wav",
        "text": "有幾個委員到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/382.wav",
        "text": "他們要求發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/383.wav",
        "text": "我絕對不是缺席審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/384.wav",
        "text": "我沒有這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/385.wav",
        "text": "有朝一日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/386.wav",
        "text": "有一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/387.wav",
        "text": "綠軍到這裡來開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/388.wav",
        "text": "藍軍或白的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/389.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨跟國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/390.wav",
        "text": "如果不來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/391.wav",
        "text": "你們要求發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/392.wav",
        "text": "我們準時坐到這裡的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/393.wav",
        "text": "也一樣會給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/394.wav",
        "text": "發言的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/395.wav",
        "text": "雖然有政黨不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/396.wav",
        "text": "但是準時來的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/397.wav",
        "text": "需要發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/398.wav",
        "text": "我還是會讓大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/399.wav",
        "text": "把一些想法講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/400.wav",
        "text": "絕對不是缺席審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/401.wav",
        "text": "這一點我要跟柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/402.wav",
        "text": "特別報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/403.wav",
        "text": "然後您剛剛所講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/404.wav",
        "text": "每一個環節你都做到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/405.wav",
        "text": "了的的確確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/406.wav",
        "text": "都是實實在在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/407.wav",
        "text": "還特別來電話說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/408.wav",
        "text": "今天情況特別忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/409.wav",
        "text": "可能開不了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/410.wav",
        "text": "我說不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/411.wav",
        "text": "我要徵詢一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/412.wav",
        "text": "所以我這邊特別澄清一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/413.wav",
        "text": "柯總召所做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/414.wav",
        "text": "說話算話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/415.wav",
        "text": "昨天幾個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/416.wav",
        "text": "站在一個平衡的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/417.wav",
        "text": "我沒有偏頗的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/418.wav",
        "text": "好我們現在開始"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/419.wav",
        "text": "你講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/420.wav",
        "text": "和我講的都有對焦"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/421.wav",
        "text": "這是發言的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/422.wav",
        "text": "你說來了就給他發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/423.wav",
        "text": "我也知道你的苦衷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/424.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/425.wav",
        "text": "你要有道德勇氣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/426.wav",
        "text": "說這個東西"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/427.wav",
        "text": "我跟老柯都講好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/428.wav",
        "text": "大家都不要談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/429.wav",
        "text": "不要再做缺席審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/430.wav",
        "text": "就是一句話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/431.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/432.wav",
        "text": "那邊直播"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/433.wav",
        "text": "也講得口沫橫飛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/434.wav",
        "text": "講到別的地方去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/435.wav",
        "text": "盡力發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/436.wav",
        "text": "到底是怎麼一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/437.wav",
        "text": "啊你跟我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/438.wav",
        "text": "白的沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/439.wav",
        "text": "藍的有意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/440.wav",
        "text": "那你說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/441.wav",
        "text": "今天早上再來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/442.wav",
        "text": "就一句話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/443.wav",
        "text": "你應該馬上制止說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/444.wav",
        "text": "這個東西經過大家講好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/445.wav",
        "text": "假如我是你的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/446.wav",
        "text": "一定有道德勇氣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/447.wav",
        "text": "這就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/448.wav",
        "text": "大家講好好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/449.wav",
        "text": "我們現在審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/450.wav",
        "text": "電業法第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/451.wav",
        "text": "如果大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/452.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣一直發言下去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/453.wav",
        "text": "經濟部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/454.wav",
        "text": "跟台電都在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/455.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/456.wav",
        "text": "昨天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/457.wav",
        "text": "如果大家認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/458.wav",
        "text": "有不適當的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/459.wav",
        "text": "通通算我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/460.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/461.wav",
        "text": "大家就不用發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/462.wav",
        "text": "是我做的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/463.wav",
        "text": "也許不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/464.wav",
        "text": "周全不夠完善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/465.wav",
        "text": "你們如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/466.wav",
        "text": "重複這樣發言的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/467.wav",
        "text": "我們今天這個議程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/468.wav",
        "text": "會整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/469.wav",
        "text": "那你這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/470.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷也舉手了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/471.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/472.wav",
        "text": "稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/473.wav",
        "text": "請尊重一下主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/474.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊委員也要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/475.wav",
        "text": "我們到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/476.wav",
        "text": "電業法結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/477.wav",
        "text": "不然在這裡難看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/478.wav",
        "text": "我正式的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/479.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/480.wav",
        "text": "電業法先結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/481.wav",
        "text": "針對我們昨天的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/482.wav",
        "text": "按下不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/483.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/484.wav",
        "text": "我們先尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/485.wav",
        "text": "人家經濟部郭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/486.wav",
        "text": "都已經第三次來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/487.wav",
        "text": "法院內部事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/488.wav",
        "text": "在這邊弄也不好看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/489.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/490.wav",
        "text": "我們現在請提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/491.wav",
        "text": "討論完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/492.wav",
        "text": "我們再來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/493.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/494.wav",
        "text": "請大家稍安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/495.wav",
        "text": "勿躁請國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/496.wav",
        "text": "提出說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/497.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/498.wav",
        "text": "辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/499.wav",
        "text": "反正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/500.wav",
        "text": "各自表述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/501.wav",
        "text": "都尊重就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/502.wav",
        "text": "我想電業法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/503.wav",
        "text": "郭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/504.wav",
        "text": "抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/505.wav",
        "text": "了不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/506.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/507.wav",
        "text": "還是有一些家務事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/508.wav",
        "text": "感同身受一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/509.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊都雞同鴨講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/510.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/511.wav",
        "text": "還是這樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/512.wav",
        "text": "啦我們希望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/513.wav",
        "text": "郭部長新人新氣象"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/514.wav",
        "text": "因為你來自業界"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/515.wav",
        "text": "所以對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/516.wav",
        "text": "一些社會脈動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/517.wav",
        "text": "可能會更加瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/518.wav",
        "text": "而不是在一個象牙塔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/519.wav",
        "text": "一個技術官僚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/520.wav",
        "text": "所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/521.wav",
        "text": "本黨所提出來的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/522.wav",
        "text": "希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/523.wav",
        "text": "百分之百民意的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/524.wav",
        "text": "裡面有各種政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/525.wav",
        "text": "而且有各種不同的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/526.wav",
        "text": "我想剛剛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/527.wav",
        "text": "部長來也聽到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/528.wav",
        "text": "各種不同的聲音"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/529.wav",
        "text": "這個就是立法院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/530.wav",
        "text": "國會平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/531.wav",
        "text": "對於"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/532.wav",
        "text": "攸關民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/533.wav",
        "text": "非常至鉅至大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/534.wav",
        "text": "電費不管是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/535.wav",
        "text": "有各種的波動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/536.wav",
        "text": "都會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/537.wav",
        "text": "不管是國內的產業也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/538.wav",
        "text": "經濟也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/539.wav",
        "text": "物價也好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/540.wav",
        "text": "而且這對於民生的用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/541.wav",
        "text": "電價的調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/542.wav",
        "text": "全國民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/543.wav",
        "text": "而且這一次的調幅是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/544.wav",
        "text": "空前的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/545.wav",
        "text": "因為包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/546.wav",
        "text": "民生用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/547.wav",
        "text": "也全部都有影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/548.wav",
        "text": "1004百多萬戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/549.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/550.wav",
        "text": "本黨基於很多民意的反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/551.wav",
        "text": "未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/552.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/553.wav",
        "text": "對於電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/554.wav",
        "text": "要做任何波動的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/555.wav",
        "text": "應該在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/556.wav",
        "text": "中央主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/557.wav",
        "text": "討論之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/558.wav",
        "text": "一個月之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/559.wav",
        "text": "要送到立法院來審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/560.wav",
        "text": "\n對於民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/561.wav",
        "text": "今天有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/562.wav",
        "text": "修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/563.wav",
        "text": "就是在行政院審議期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/564.wav",
        "text": "學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/565.wav",
        "text": "相關民間團體代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/566.wav",
        "text": "不得少於二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/567.wav",
        "text": "審議方式及其他應注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/568.wav",
        "text": "應基於公平公正公開透明的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/569.wav",
        "text": "由中央機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/570.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們敬表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/571.wav",
        "text": "修正動議當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/572.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/573.wav",
        "text": "做成一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/574.wav",
        "text": "但是這兩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/575.wav",
        "text": "就是基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/576.wav",
        "text": "對民意的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/577.wav",
        "text": "把所有相關的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/578.wav",
        "text": "還有國內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/579.wav",
        "text": "會造成什麼樣的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/580.wav",
        "text": "未來電價的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/581.wav",
        "text": "會更加周全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/582.wav",
        "text": "所以本黨提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/583.wav",
        "text": "希望大家一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/584.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/585.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/586.wav",
        "text": "當然要立法院審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/587.wav",
        "text": "怎麼不要立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/588.wav",
        "text": "補充報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/589.wav",
        "text": "現在有民進黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/590.wav",
        "text": "跟台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/591.wav",
        "text": "提修正動議併案討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/592.wav",
        "text": "我們請議事人員宣讀\n台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/593.wav",
        "text": "不得少於二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/594.wav",
        "text": "相關民間團體人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/595.wav",
        "text": "其組成應包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/596.wav",
        "text": "確保專業審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/597.wav",
        "text": "依計算公式擬訂之電價及各種收費費率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/598.wav",
        "text": "亦應考量對民生物價及產業競爭力及能源使用效率之影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/599.wav",
        "text": "以維護社會公益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/600.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/601.wav",
        "text": "現在在處理電業法第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/602.wav",
        "text": "原來要提出來的是國民黨的最後一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/603.wav",
        "text": "很明確的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/604.wav",
        "text": "審議會的決議要送立法院審議後實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/605.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是分別由民眾黨團跟民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/606.wav",
        "text": "今天都有一個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/607.wav",
        "text": "所以現在進入我們最終處理的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/608.wav",
        "text": "我們也多所討論過包括在委員會的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/609.wav",
        "text": "主要是我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/610.wav",
        "text": "整個電價的審議審議會的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/611.wav",
        "text": "已經從2017年運行到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/612.wav",
        "text": "審議會怎麼組成呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/613.wav",
        "text": "這個電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/614.wav",
        "text": "有工總有商總有學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/615.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/616.wav",
        "text": "我們認為是都有含括民間意見的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/617.wav",
        "text": "而且很重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/618.wav",
        "text": "他們有電價審議相關的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/619.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣一個審議的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/620.wav",
        "text": "ly非常開放性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/621.wav",
        "text": "並且可以反映民間的思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/622.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個審議會的成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/623.wav",
        "text": "也是2017年立法院修法而入法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/624.wav",
        "text": "而會有這個審議會很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/625.wav",
        "text": "它的運行怎麼去決定電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/626.wav",
        "text": "更需要有一個嚴謹透明公開的計價公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/627.wav",
        "text": "訂定出一個計算電價的電價公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/628.wav",
        "text": "這是2015年立法院的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/629.wav",
        "text": "2017年進一步地入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/630.wav",
        "text": "也是立法院通過的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/631.wav",
        "text": "當然現在國民黨團想要再修法來調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/632.wav",
        "text": "這就是要回到我們過去長年以來的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/633.wav",
        "text": "究竟誰有能力來進行電價的審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/634.wav",
        "text": "就民進黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/635.wav",
        "text": "其實也不是只有民進黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/636.wav",
        "text": "我們看看世界各國的趨勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/637.wav",
        "text": "各國的作法從來沒有立法機關來介入來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/638.wav",
        "text": "世界各國都是有專業審查的機制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/639.wav",
        "text": "我要再次強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/640.wav",
        "text": "電價是專業而不是政治可以來決斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/641.wav",
        "text": "的是我們自己在立法院的現場都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/642.wav",
        "text": "每個議程議案的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/643.wav",
        "text": "其實極具高度的不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/644.wav",
        "text": "台電電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/645.wav",
        "text": "及收費都應當要能夠支持台電的穩健運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/646.wav",
        "text": "如果把台電電價的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/647.wav",
        "text": "交由本身在運作上議程高度不確定的立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/648.wav",
        "text": "其實對於審議過的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/649.wav",
        "text": "必須處置的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/650.wav",
        "text": "都會讓台電的公司治理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/651.wav",
        "text": "受到政治力的干預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/652.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我簡單做歸納"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/653.wav",
        "text": "第一個台電的電價審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/654.wav",
        "text": "從公式到審議會的成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/655.wav",
        "text": "依過去立法院的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/656.wav",
        "text": "跟立法院修正的法律來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/657.wav",
        "text": "也進行了這麼多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/658.wav",
        "text": "第二個世界各國沒有像現在國民黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/659.wav",
        "text": "要由立法院來審議電價審議的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/660.wav",
        "text": "一定要立法院通過才能處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/661.wav",
        "text": "這是全球罕見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/662.wav",
        "text": "如果讓這樣的電價審議結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/663.wav",
        "text": "交由立法院審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/664.wav",
        "text": "由於議事程序極具高度不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/665.wav",
        "text": "並不利於台電財務穩健的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/666.wav",
        "text": "請讓專業回歸專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/667.wav",
        "text": "電價審議絕對是高度的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/668.wav",
        "text": "現在的審議會都是專業界的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/669.wav",
        "text": "也是過去立法院多所討論而決定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/670.wav",
        "text": "基於這四個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/671.wav",
        "text": "我們認為交由立法院來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/672.wav",
        "text": "也就是國民黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/673.wav",
        "text": "是難以接受的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/674.wav",
        "text": "也在現行的處理上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/675.wav",
        "text": "會造成台電在營運上很大的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/676.wav",
        "text": "很大的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/677.wav",
        "text": "\n最終一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/678.wav",
        "text": "這是責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/679.wav",
        "text": "台電的永續營運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/680.wav",
        "text": "是責任政治所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/681.wav",
        "text": "經濟部要承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/682.wav",
        "text": "執政黨要承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/683.wav",
        "text": "如果立法權要用修法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/684.wav",
        "text": "把行政權能夠處理的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/685.wav",
        "text": "如果台電的營運發生了危機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/686.wav",
        "text": "台電發生了狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/687.wav",
        "text": "或者是台電可能財務營運不佳破產等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/688.wav",
        "text": "我都講到最相對困難的極端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/689.wav",
        "text": "立法院能負責嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/690.wav",
        "text": "所以基於這五個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/691.wav",
        "text": "希望在野黨提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/692.wav",
        "text": "可以再多多深思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/693.wav",
        "text": "我們切莫做出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/694.wav",
        "text": "不宜不正確也不好的修法提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/695.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/696.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/697.wav",
        "text": "\n特別跟經濟部郭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/698.wav",
        "text": "還有曾董事長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/699.wav",
        "text": "你們稍微等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/700.wav",
        "text": "幾個黨團發言完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/701.wav",
        "text": "等一下會請各位發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/702.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/703.wav",
        "text": "洪申翰委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/704.wav",
        "text": "今天電業法修正非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/705.wav",
        "text": "也很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/706.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/707.wav",
        "text": "民進黨提出了修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/708.wav",
        "text": "從善如流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/709.wav",
        "text": "我代表台灣民眾黨提出的案子非常接近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/710.wav",
        "text": "我不要說你們抄我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/711.wav",
        "text": "啦回應了民意從善如流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/712.wav",
        "text": "剛剛傅總召已經提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/713.wav",
        "text": "他也贊成台灣民眾黨的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/714.wav",
        "text": "所以今天應該是三黨都有共識了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/715.wav",
        "text": "嘛用我們一個多月前提出來的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/716.wav",
        "text": "\n我強調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/717.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一個半月多前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/718.wav",
        "text": "我們台灣民眾黨必須提這個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/719.wav",
        "text": "電業法為什麼要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/720.wav",
        "text": "因為當初電價要漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/721.wav",
        "text": "我們苦口婆心回應民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/722.wav",
        "text": "民眾一直在講兩個很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/723.wav",
        "text": "能不能不要漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/724.wav",
        "text": "甚至你要漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/725.wav",
        "text": "你把你的能源結構講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/726.wav",
        "text": "特別是有沒有買電買太貴的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/727.wav",
        "text": "我代表民眾黨團上去質詢了好幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/728.wav",
        "text": "甚至我後來提案了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/729.wav",
        "text": "立法院的院會都通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/730.wav",
        "text": "跟經濟委員會解釋清楚民眾的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/731.wav",
        "text": "結果完全不遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/732.wav",
        "text": "不是只有打臉台灣民眾黨而是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/733.wav",
        "text": "打臉整個立法院院會的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/734.wav",
        "text": "所以後來我們被迫必須進一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/735.wav",
        "text": "想盡所有的辦法提修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/736.wav",
        "text": "\n我要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/737.wav",
        "text": "民眾的要求是很卑微的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/738.wav",
        "text": "電價審議委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/739.wav",
        "text": "有二分之一以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/740.wav",
        "text": "是由學者專家跟民間的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/741.wav",
        "text": "目前看起來行政權不只是獨大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/742.wav",
        "text": "而且變成獨裁了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/743.wav",
        "text": "立法院通過什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/744.wav",
        "text": "他們完全不遵照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/745.wav",
        "text": "4月1號漲價到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/746.wav",
        "text": "有一個交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/747.wav",
        "text": "一個解釋嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/748.wav",
        "text": "連個解釋都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/749.wav",
        "text": "所以我們明確地要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/750.wav",
        "text": "中學者專家跟民間的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/751.wav",
        "text": "必須超過二分之一以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/752.wav",
        "text": "我看了最近的開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/753.wav",
        "text": "都是官方9個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/754.wav",
        "text": "民間跟學者專家8個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/755.wav",
        "text": "這是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/756.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個程序要公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/757.wav",
        "text": "我要強調一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/758.wav",
        "text": "我們一個多月前提這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/759.wav",
        "text": "以後發生了多少事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/760.wav",
        "text": "臺南的88槍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/761.wav",
        "text": "力暘的案子被起訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/762.wav",
        "text": "檢察官直接在起訴書裡面怎麼講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/763.wav",
        "text": "跟台電買電的不法所得多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/764.wav",
        "text": "91億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/765.wav",
        "text": "昨天還發生更聳動了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/766.wav",
        "text": "臺南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/767.wav",
        "text": "漁會理事長被打11槍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/768.wav",
        "text": "現在你們買電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/769.wav",
        "text": "特別是光電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/770.wav",
        "text": "已經不是六十幾個案子起訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/771.wav",
        "text": "你現在買太貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/772.wav",
        "text": "買出弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/773.wav",
        "text": "現在還買出命案來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/774.wav",
        "text": "人民不是很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/775.wav",
        "text": "解釋清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/776.wav",
        "text": "你們有說光電到底要怎麼樣降價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/777.wav",
        "text": "或怎麼談嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/778.wav",
        "text": "我是很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/779.wav",
        "text": "我聽說部長有在追這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/780.wav",
        "text": "查清楚為什麼買光電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/781.wav",
        "text": "買一些電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/782.wav",
        "text": "我在質詢時也提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/783.wav",
        "text": "民間也在問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/784.wav",
        "text": "我們跟民間電廠買的有沒有太貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/785.wav",
        "text": "第二個你的能源結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/786.wav",
        "text": "一定要為什麼一定要把最便宜的核三廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/787.wav",
        "text": "1號機2號機停掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/788.wav",
        "text": "你用4倍價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/789.wav",
        "text": "火力全開去用燃煤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/790.wav",
        "text": "用天然氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/791.wav",
        "text": "這都是人民很卑微的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/792.wav",
        "text": "叫你講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/793.wav",
        "text": "到現在問題都沒有解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/794.wav",
        "text": "所以我們必須要提這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/795.wav",
        "text": "\n今天很高興"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/796.wav",
        "text": "今天包括民進黨也從善如流了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/797.wav",
        "text": "我一直講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/798.wav",
        "text": "我認識的柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/799.wav",
        "text": "是一個有改革色彩的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/800.wav",
        "text": "我認識你的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/801.wav",
        "text": "是你頭髮還很多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/802.wav",
        "text": "拜託請不要提頭髮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/803.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/804.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/805.wav",
        "text": "很謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/806.wav",
        "text": "莫忘初衷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/807.wav",
        "text": "很謝謝今天民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/808.wav",
        "text": "能夠從善如流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/809.wav",
        "text": "支持我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/810.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/811.wav",
        "text": "那也謝謝傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/812.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得可以按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/813.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/814.wav",
        "text": "版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/815.wav",
        "text": "\n我做個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/816.wav",
        "text": "因為民進黨現在提的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/817.wav",
        "text": "跟我們的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/818.wav",
        "text": "是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/819.wav",
        "text": "我可以把民進黨的後段再加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/820.wav",
        "text": "我同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/821.wav",
        "text": "我們的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/822.wav",
        "text": "前項審議會之學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/823.wav",
        "text": "及相關民間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/824.wav",
        "text": "團體代表不得少於二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/825.wav",
        "text": "以後不要再出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/826.wav",
        "text": "官方的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/827.wav",
        "text": "獨裁又獨大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/828.wav",
        "text": "至少要反過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/829.wav",
        "text": "民間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/830.wav",
        "text": "學者專家二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/831.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/832.wav",
        "text": "跟注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/833.wav",
        "text": "一定要公開公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/834.wav",
        "text": "還有公開透明原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/835.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/836.wav",
        "text": "甚至要考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/837.wav",
        "text": "以後要不要全程直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/838.wav",
        "text": "審議的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/839.wav",
        "text": "其實我知道現在有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/840.wav",
        "text": "現在審議完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/841.wav",
        "text": "後來都有把書面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/842.wav",
        "text": "送上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/843.wav",
        "text": "紀錄有送上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/844.wav",
        "text": "你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/845.wav",
        "text": "那個廢死的辯論會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/846.wav",
        "text": "都已經公開在電視直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/847.wav",
        "text": "更重要地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/848.wav",
        "text": "人民有很多的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/849.wav",
        "text": "你要及時回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/850.wav",
        "text": "買太貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/851.wav",
        "text": "核三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/852.wav",
        "text": "核能要不要用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/853.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/854.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/855.wav",
        "text": "啦除了通過我們這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/856.wav",
        "text": "提案之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/857.wav",
        "text": "你們另外一個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/858.wav",
        "text": "我贊成把它列進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/859.wav",
        "text": "除了贊成我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/860.wav",
        "text": "同意我們這個二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/861.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/862.wav",
        "text": "依二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/863.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/864.wav",
        "text": "除參酌第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/865.wav",
        "text": "依計算公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/866.wav",
        "text": "擬訂之電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/867.wav",
        "text": "及各種收費費率亦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/868.wav",
        "text": "應考量對民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/869.wav",
        "text": "物價及產業競爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/870.wav",
        "text": "及能源使用效率之影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/871.wav",
        "text": "以維護社會公益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/872.wav",
        "text": "我同意把它列進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/873.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/874.wav",
        "text": "支持我們台灣民眾黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/875.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張啓楷委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/876.wav",
        "text": "現在請洪申翰委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/877.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/878.wav",
        "text": "電業法第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/879.wav",
        "text": "坦白說這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/880.wav",
        "text": "現在在朝野各黨不同的主張之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/881.wav",
        "text": "電價審議非常重要的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/882.wav",
        "text": "在討論這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/883.wav",
        "text": "我覺得最關鍵的一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/884.wav",
        "text": "也是大家必須回答的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/885.wav",
        "text": "到底我們期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/886.wav",
        "text": "電價的審議跟決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/887.wav",
        "text": "是由專業來審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/888.wav",
        "text": "還是由政治來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/889.wav",
        "text": "\n我覺得這是最關鍵的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/890.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛張啓楷委員的講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/891.wav",
        "text": "我聽出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/892.wav",
        "text": "他其實算是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/893.wav",
        "text": "某些電價審議委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/894.wav",
        "text": "民間委員的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/895.wav",
        "text": "我聽出這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/896.wav",
        "text": "但要記得一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/897.wav",
        "text": "現在很多的這些專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/898.wav",
        "text": "是反對國民黨要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/899.wav",
        "text": "要把電價再拉進立法院審議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/900.wav",
        "text": "所以如果你也贊成專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/901.wav",
        "text": "尤其是電業相關的專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/902.wav",
        "text": "在電價上的專業意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/903.wav",
        "text": "不要漏掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/904.wav",
        "text": "他們是反對現在國民黨的提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/905.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛民眾黨想要弄一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/906.wav",
        "text": "藍白併行的這個作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/907.wav",
        "text": "又想要包牌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/908.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個是牴觸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/909.wav",
        "text": "\n我再補充幾件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/910.wav",
        "text": "藍白想要一起來阻擋電價調整的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/911.wav",
        "text": "有大概三十幾個專業的民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/912.wav",
        "text": "還有四五十個民間的學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/913.wav",
        "text": "一起提出了連署書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/914.wav",
        "text": "不要忘記裡面有一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/915.wav",
        "text": "他的名字叫做蕭代基"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/916.wav",
        "text": "我想珊珊委員很清楚知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/917.wav",
        "text": "蕭代基也是柯文哲在總統大選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/918.wav",
        "text": "時非常非常倚重的能源顧問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/919.wav",
        "text": "他一樣站出來反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/920.wav",
        "text": "當時藍白希望阻止電價調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/921.wav",
        "text": "尤其是修改電業法第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/922.wav",
        "text": "要求把電價審議的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/923.wav",
        "text": "要送到立法再審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/924.wav",
        "text": "他也反對這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/925.wav",
        "text": "他們都認為這是讓政治凌駕專業的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/926.wav",
        "text": "\n所以剛剛如果張啓楷委員也重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/927.wav",
        "text": "電價審議委員會裡面的專業意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/928.wav",
        "text": "那應該要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/929.wav",
        "text": "他們是反對國民黨提案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/930.wav",
        "text": "所以民眾黨不應該一面說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/931.wav",
        "text": "我要我的這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/932.wav",
        "text": "又可以接受國民黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/933.wav",
        "text": "這是假的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/934.wav",
        "text": "喔\n第二件事情我要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/935.wav",
        "text": "這一位是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/936.wav",
        "text": "這位是商總的理事長許舒博"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/937.wav",
        "text": "他不是民進黨的吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/938.wav",
        "text": "他也是現在電價審議委員會的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/939.wav",
        "text": "他希望現在的電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/940.wav",
        "text": "能夠繼續維持專業的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/941.wav",
        "text": "不要再落入政治上面的攻防或者是審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/942.wav",
        "text": "所以這些問題都回到一個根本的命題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/943.wav",
        "text": "我們到底是希望用專業來審議電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/944.wav",
        "text": "還是用政治來決定電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/945.wav",
        "text": "這事情必須做一個決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/946.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一點我要說的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/947.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/948.wav",
        "text": "過去在電價審議委員會裡面運作的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/949.wav",
        "text": "我們也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/950.wav",
        "text": "其實讓電價的審議更專業是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/951.wav",
        "text": "所以我們基本上同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/952.wav",
        "text": "讓民間的專家委員跟團體代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/953.wav",
        "text": "超過二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/954.wav",
        "text": "這是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/955.wav",
        "text": "但第二點不要忘了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/956.wav",
        "text": "我們甚至把原本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/957.wav",
        "text": "得邀集電價審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/958.wav",
        "text": "我們直接把它改成應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/959.wav",
        "text": "這代表我們就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/960.wav",
        "text": "讓電價審議的機制更往專業走的決心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/961.wav",
        "text": "這是民眾黨裡面沒有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/962.wav",
        "text": "\n所以如果民眾黨也同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/963.wav",
        "text": "那其實是你們起義來歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/964.wav",
        "text": "是你們從善如流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/965.wav",
        "text": "我們也很贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/966.wav",
        "text": "我們也很支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/967.wav",
        "text": "不過這沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/968.wav",
        "text": "可是我的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/969.wav",
        "text": "如果剛剛按照張啓楷委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/970.wav",
        "text": "我們希望讓它回歸專業的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/971.wav",
        "text": "那不要忘了這些專業的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/972.wav",
        "text": "現在是反對國民黨的提案喔\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/973.wav",
        "text": "所以不要讓自己出現矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/974.wav",
        "text": "不要騎驢找馬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/975.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這件事情很關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/976.wav",
        "text": "我認為在這件事情上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/977.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨跟民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/978.wav",
        "text": "我們可以一起支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/979.wav",
        "text": "讓電價審議更專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/980.wav",
        "text": "這事情我們可以一起支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/981.wav",
        "text": "而不要讓電價審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/982.wav",
        "text": "又再淪為政治攻防的籌碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/983.wav",
        "text": "變成由政治決定的這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/984.wav",
        "text": "大家過去不樂於看到的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/985.wav",
        "text": "我們一起讓電價審議更專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/986.wav",
        "text": "這事情我們同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/987.wav",
        "text": "謝謝洪申翰委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/988.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請洪孟楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/989.wav",
        "text": "請黃珊珊委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/990.wav",
        "text": "我想審議電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/991.wav",
        "text": "尤其是第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/992.wav",
        "text": "大家各黨團可以提出各自的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/993.wav",
        "text": "但是真的不用說吃別人的豆腐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/994.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得我們站在理性務實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/995.wav",
        "text": "專業的角度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/996.wav",
        "text": "當然希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/997.wav",
        "text": "啊\n民意代表就是要把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/998.wav",
        "text": "為人民發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/999.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也要幫人民發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1000.wav",
        "text": "重點是國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1001.wav",
        "text": "我相信沒有一個國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1002.wav",
        "text": "不希望用專業來說話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1003.wav",
        "text": "用專業來判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1004.wav",
        "text": "\n我想過去在電業法審議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1005.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有電價審議小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1006.wav",
        "text": "那個時候就是希望有專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1007.wav",
        "text": "啊專業的審查小組完了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1008.wav",
        "text": "就可以告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1009.wav",
        "text": "到底國際能源的趨勢如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1010.wav",
        "text": "然後電價適時的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1011.wav",
        "text": "但不要忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1012.wav",
        "text": "過去從2018年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1013.wav",
        "text": "我們電價連7凍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1014.wav",
        "text": "連7次凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1015.wav",
        "text": "甚至最高的國際燃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1016.wav",
        "text": "燃煤成本在什麼時候達到最高峰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1017.wav",
        "text": "烏俄戰爭的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1018.wav",
        "text": "是在2021年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1019.wav",
        "text": "但2021年那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1020.wav",
        "text": "我們並沒有調漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1021.wav",
        "text": "明明大家都講是說國際的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1022.wav",
        "text": "──燃煤成本燃氣成本大幅增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1023.wav",
        "text": "但是為什麼那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1024.wav",
        "text": "民進黨政府主政之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1025.wav",
        "text": "並沒有調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1026.wav",
        "text": "這有專業嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1027.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有委員代表講是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1028.wav",
        "text": "專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1029.wav",
        "text": "啊也請不要忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1030.wav",
        "text": "也請容許我提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1031.wav",
        "text": "當時民進黨政府主政之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1032.wav",
        "text": "連7凍漲的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1033.wav",
        "text": "每一次凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1034.wav",
        "text": "又有專家學者跳出來講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1035.wav",
        "text": "他也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1036.wav",
        "text": "這種就是政治凌駕專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1037.wav",
        "text": "因為電價審議小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1038.wav",
        "text": "國際能源的燃煤燃氣成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1039.wav",
        "text": "明明就有漲幅了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1040.wav",
        "text": "但是那個時候是凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1041.wav",
        "text": "是不是選舉考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1042.wav",
        "text": "是不是有其他的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1043.wav",
        "text": "到選舉結束之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1044.wav",
        "text": "就開始漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1045.wav",
        "text": "而且因為前面的凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1046.wav",
        "text": "反而讓後面的補漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1047.wav",
        "text": "或後面的漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1048.wav",
        "text": "幅度更加地大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1049.wav",
        "text": "讓國人感受到更加地不安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1050.wav",
        "text": "因電價的漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1051.wav",
        "text": "造成物價的全面提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1052.wav",
        "text": "以及物價的全面上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1053.wav",
        "text": "所以我們講說萬物皆漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1054.wav",
        "text": "電是萬物之首"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1055.wav",
        "text": "就是這個道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1056.wav",
        "text": "啊所以如果說可以回歸專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1057.wav",
        "text": "我非常認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1058.wav",
        "text": "我也希望電價審議小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1059.wav",
        "text": "就應該專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1060.wav",
        "text": "如果說大家國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1061.wav",
        "text": "因為電是大家都要使用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1062.wav",
        "text": "能源是選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1063.wav",
        "text": "國人既然大家都要用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1064.wav",
        "text": "我們又要馬兒好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1065.wav",
        "text": "又要馬兒不吃草不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1066.wav",
        "text": "因此電價審議小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1067.wav",
        "text": "就應該本於專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1068.wav",
        "text": "多少成本發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1069.wav",
        "text": "就應該要告訴國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1070.wav",
        "text": "清楚明白的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1071.wav",
        "text": "而不是選擇性的辦案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1072.wav",
        "text": "選擇性的漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1073.wav",
        "text": "選擇性的凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1074.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1075.wav",
        "text": "你來自產業界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1076.wav",
        "text": "連7凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1077.wav",
        "text": "沒有政治考量嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1078.wav",
        "text": "我相信不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1079.wav",
        "text": "有一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1080.wav",
        "text": "我要拜託等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1081.wav",
        "text": "部長跟台電這邊來回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1082.wav",
        "text": "因為電價跟發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1083.wav",
        "text": "天平的兩端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1084.wav",
        "text": "我們的發電方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1085.wav",
        "text": "照現在民進黨政府的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1086.wav",
        "text": "是非核家園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1087.wav",
        "text": "我們又希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1088.wav",
        "text": "國人普遍大家又希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1089.wav",
        "text": "電價是合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1090.wav",
        "text": "可以控制的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1091.wav",
        "text": "以及到底我們臺灣電夠不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1092.wav",
        "text": "今天最新的新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1093.wav",
        "text": "早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1094.wav",
        "text": "凌晨3點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1095.wav",
        "text": "桃園機場一航廈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1096.wav",
        "text": "跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1097.wav",
        "text": "媒體的標題寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1098.wav",
        "text": "機場驚傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1099.wav",
        "text": "驚傳跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1100.wav",
        "text": "一航廈螢幕全壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1101.wav",
        "text": "旅客找嘸登機資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1102.wav",
        "text": "我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1103.wav",
        "text": "媒體上的那個螢幕畫面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1104.wav",
        "text": "是完全一片藍的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1105.wav",
        "text": "空白的畫面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1106.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1107.wav",
        "text": "說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1108.wav",
        "text": "因為媒體的報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1109.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1110.wav",
        "text": "桃園機場凌晨驚傳跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1111.wav",
        "text": "一航廈螢幕全壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1112.wav",
        "text": "我想這對一個國門來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1113.wav",
        "text": "這對於現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1114.wav",
        "text": "暑假的旺季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1115.wav",
        "text": "大家要出國入國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1116.wav",
        "text": "返回國門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1117.wav",
        "text": "這個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1118.wav",
        "text": "到底我們電夠不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1119.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1120.wav",
        "text": "過去這兩個月三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1121.wav",
        "text": "跳電頻傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1122.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1123.wav",
        "text": "您來自產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1124.wav",
        "text": "我想產業界也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1125.wav",
        "text": "或是民眾也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1126.wav",
        "text": "你自己也講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1127.wav",
        "text": "了臺灣什麼電都需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1128.wav",
        "text": "這是你前天上媒體專訪的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1129.wav",
        "text": "所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1130.wav",
        "text": "所以產業界也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1131.wav",
        "text": "民眾也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1132.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1133.wav",
        "text": "我們能夠有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1134.wav",
        "text": "合理可以負擔的電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1135.wav",
        "text": "並且能夠有充足的電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1136.wav",
        "text": "不要擔心我們有缺電的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1137.wav",
        "text": "甚至讓產業可以在未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1138.wav",
        "text": "如同我們部長這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1139.wav",
        "text": "AI產業要發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1140.wav",
        "text": "每年要增加平均3%的用電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1141.wav",
        "text": "5年就是15%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1142.wav",
        "text": "到2030年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1143.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼樣讓排碳又減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1144.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣讓用電又增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1145.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣又可以有足夠的用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1146.wav",
        "text": "然後電價又可以維持一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1147.wav",
        "text": "合理穩定的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1148.wav",
        "text": "這當然需要大家共同考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1149.wav",
        "text": "這當然需要專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1150.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我簡單結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1151.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1152.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨今天所提出來修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1153.wav",
        "text": "這個專家學者二分之一的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1154.wav",
        "text": "我們國民黨團是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1155.wav",
        "text": "的我們也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1156.wav",
        "text": "本來就應該有專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1157.wav",
        "text": "跟相關民間代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1158.wav",
        "text": "來審議並且符合公平公正公開透明原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1159.wav",
        "text": "這本來也應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1160.wav",
        "text": "連我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1161.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商的時候都可以全程直播了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1162.wav",
        "text": "有什麼理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1163.wav",
        "text": "電價審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1164.wav",
        "text": "或是相關的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1165.wav",
        "text": "不行我覺得政府部門做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1166.wav",
        "text": "能公開就儘量公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1167.wav",
        "text": "讓國人都可以清楚明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1168.wav",
        "text": "看到我想這也是一個負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1169.wav",
        "text": "作法跟態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1170.wav",
        "text": "\n至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1171.wav",
        "text": "立法部門這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1172.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1173.wav",
        "text": "當然也希望大家能夠討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1174.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1175.wav",
        "text": "立法部門這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1176.wav",
        "text": "也占有最高民意的一個表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1177.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1178.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1179.wav",
        "text": "我們會稍後再來提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1180.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1181.wav",
        "text": "既然今天是協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1182.wav",
        "text": "大家就互相提出來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1183.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1184.wav",
        "text": "謝謝洪孟楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1185.wav",
        "text": "請黃珊珊委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1186.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1187.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1188.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1189.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1190.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨在這邊可能要釐清幾個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1191.wav",
        "text": "點名我們問了很多問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1192.wav",
        "text": "首先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1193.wav",
        "text": "在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1194.wav",
        "text": "4月份的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1195.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1196.wav",
        "text": "非常非常清楚地提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1197.wav",
        "text": "當時國民黨也提出所謂的凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1198.wav",
        "text": "但是民眾黨提的叫緩漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1199.wav",
        "text": "我們希望他們提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1200.wav",
        "text": "包括成本計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1201.wav",
        "text": "這些東西完了之後緩漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1202.wav",
        "text": "所以我們並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1203.wav",
        "text": "所以這個可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1204.wav",
        "text": "第一個要先釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1205.wav",
        "text": "國民黨這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1206.wav",
        "text": "修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1207.wav",
        "text": "方案已經出來很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1208.wav",
        "text": "所以如果我們跟他們態度一樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1209.wav",
        "text": "我們就直接共提就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1210.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有共提的原因也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1211.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1212.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨為什麼提的修正動議是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1213.wav",
        "text": "針對專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1214.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1215.wav",
        "text": "理性務實科學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1216.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1217.wav",
        "text": "這個部分大概就是我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1218.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1219.wav",
        "text": "專家學者裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1220.wav",
        "text": "這是我們一個多月前就提出來的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1221.wav",
        "text": "所以不是我們起義來歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1222.wav",
        "text": "而是謝謝民進黨團的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1223.wav",
        "text": "從善如流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1224.wav",
        "text": "這也必須要先釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1225.wav",
        "text": "\n這個方案裡面很清楚的就是公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1226.wav",
        "text": "公開透明的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1227.wav",
        "text": "其實很簡單的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1228.wav",
        "text": "為什麼大家對電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1229.wav",
        "text": "價審議委員會有這麼多疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1230.wav",
        "text": "只看到結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1231.wav",
        "text": "在兩個禮拜之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1232.wav",
        "text": "趕快公布所謂的發言紀要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1233.wav",
        "text": "不用逐字稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1234.wav",
        "text": "但是至少發言紀要要出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1235.wav",
        "text": "大家可以知道那個過程的形成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1236.wav",
        "text": "甚至專家學者所說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1237.wav",
        "text": "在委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1238.wav",
        "text": "有沒有被重視跟討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1239.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個是公開透明的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1240.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望接下去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1241.wav",
        "text": "不管今天的審議怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1242.wav",
        "text": "但是會議紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1243.wav",
        "text": "要在會議結束後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1244.wav",
        "text": "兩個星期內公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1245.wav",
        "text": "甚至包括公開他的發言重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1246.wav",
        "text": "這個可能是必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1247.wav",
        "text": "不管將來是怎麼樣的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1248.wav",
        "text": "但是台灣民眾黨的立場很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1249.wav",
        "text": "我們也認為專業歸專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1250.wav",
        "text": "在專業的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1251.wav",
        "text": "要讓大家知道過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1252.wav",
        "text": "而不是單純的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1253.wav",
        "text": "不要貼人家的顏色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1254.wav",
        "text": "也不要扣人家帽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1255.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨的態度很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1256.wav",
        "text": "我們的立場就是我們的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1257.wav",
        "text": "我們的修正動議希望能夠在完成以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1258.wav",
        "text": "我們也不希望變成行政跟立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1259.wav",
        "text": "互相在爭執"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1260.wav",
        "text": "這個部分應該是讓經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1261.wav",
        "text": "負最終的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1262.wav",
        "text": "但是它必須要公開透明接受監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1263.wav",
        "text": "我們的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1264.wav",
        "text": "就是希望他們的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1265.wav",
        "text": "我們原則上同意他們的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1266.wav",
        "text": "所以其實這個部分兩邊已經有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1267.wav",
        "text": "現在就看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1268.wav",
        "text": "我把公開透明的部分再寫一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1269.wav",
        "text": "發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1270.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1271.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1272.wav",
        "text": "剛剛聽了黃珊珊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1273.wav",
        "text": "跟張啓楷委員的一席話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1274.wav",
        "text": "當然他們認為說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1275.wav",
        "text": "每一個政黨都考慮到他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1276.wav",
        "text": "如何去做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1277.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都是起義來歸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1278.wav",
        "text": "歸到台灣民眾黨那邊去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1279.wav",
        "text": "其實賺了面子也很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1280.wav",
        "text": "啦通過民進黨的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1281.wav",
        "text": "然後功勞算你們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1282.wav",
        "text": "這好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1283.wav",
        "text": "經濟部一定非常開心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1284.wav",
        "text": "但是重點就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1285.wav",
        "text": "從2015年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1286.wav",
        "text": "我們在審議電價的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1287.wav",
        "text": "整個電價審議委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1288.wav",
        "text": "在我看來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1289.wav",
        "text": "把商業代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1290.wav",
        "text": "還有消費團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1291.wav",
        "text": "專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1292.wav",
        "text": "民間代表放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1293.wav",
        "text": "它其實就是叫做公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1294.wav",
        "text": "這個就是對外公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1295.wav",
        "text": "那你說它到底有沒有獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1296.wav",
        "text": "要到什麼樣的程度才叫獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1297.wav",
        "text": "現在民進黨的修正動議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1298.wav",
        "text": "把組成的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1299.wav",
        "text": "把它當成是因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1300.wav",
        "text": "你組成裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1301.wav",
        "text": "要有相關專業跟社會團體代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1302.wav",
        "text": "還有確保專業的審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1303.wav",
        "text": "把它強制後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1304.wav",
        "text": "這個是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1305.wav",
        "text": "啦所以民眾黨要了這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1306.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1307.wav",
        "text": "就讓你們去完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1308.wav",
        "text": "這個要感謝一下民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1309.wav",
        "text": "喔\n但是我倒會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1310.wav",
        "text": "國民黨其實也應該好好澈底再想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1311.wav",
        "text": "他們還是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1312.wav",
        "text": "國會是最高民意機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1313.wav",
        "text": "然後到最後國會還是要有一定的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1314.wav",
        "text": "再把它給放進去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1315.wav",
        "text": "我相信這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1316.wav",
        "text": "要好好思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1317.wav",
        "text": "啦立法委員真的是沒有那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1318.wav",
        "text": "啦沒有大到說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1319.wav",
        "text": "整個行政權在發動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1320.wav",
        "text": "攸關整個民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1321.wav",
        "text": "都已經公開又獨立又專業團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1322.wav",
        "text": "讓它有達到專業性的要求了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1323.wav",
        "text": "到最後還要去國會的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1324.wav",
        "text": "那乾脆所有的法律訂完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1325.wav",
        "text": "都要經過立法院再決定一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1326.wav",
        "text": "啊這有點太過於托大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1327.wav",
        "text": "這個修正案一提出來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1328.wav",
        "text": "我看民眾黨也非常滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1329.wav",
        "text": "嘛是不是國民黨有真正的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1330.wav",
        "text": "你們就明講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1331.wav",
        "text": "嘛就只剩下到底要不要在1個月內送交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1332.wav",
        "text": "立法院審議的部分而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1333.wav",
        "text": "這樣才有辦法聚焦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1334.wav",
        "text": "謝謝莊瑞雄委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1335.wav",
        "text": "更正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1336.wav",
        "text": "按舉手次序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1337.wav",
        "text": "接下來是林思銘委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1338.wav",
        "text": "然後請張啓楷委員準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1339.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1340.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1341.wav",
        "text": "協商如果要獲得結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1342.wav",
        "text": "其實大家都要保持善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1343.wav",
        "text": "說誰的版本比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1344.wav",
        "text": "誰的版本比較差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1345.wav",
        "text": "去做一些無"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1346.wav",
        "text": "這一次我們國民黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1347.wav",
        "text": "剛才吳思瑤委員的說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1348.wav",
        "text": "一定會有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1349.wav",
        "text": "好像送到立法院來審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1350.wav",
        "text": "是多麼大不了的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1351.wav",
        "text": "難道立法院會背離民意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1352.wav",
        "text": "我想你們想太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1353.wav",
        "text": "收費的費率是怎麼算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1354.wav",
        "text": "它是有一個計算公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1355.wav",
        "text": "啊所以這些專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1356.wav",
        "text": "他們做最後審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1357.wav",
        "text": "是按照什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1358.wav",
        "text": "他們自由心證嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1359.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1360.wav",
        "text": "我們原本訂的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1361.wav",
        "text": "計算公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1362.wav",
        "text": "算出來之後給他們審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1363.wav",
        "text": "剛才會有如洪孟楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1364.wav",
        "text": "記長講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1365.wav",
        "text": "能源就已經漲價了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1366.wav",
        "text": "竟然可以連7凍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1367.wav",
        "text": "這什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1368.wav",
        "text": "難道那個公式有問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1369.wav",
        "text": "依照你們的成本去漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1370.wav",
        "text": "我們就看到有政治的黑手介入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1371.wav",
        "text": "行政權就去介入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1372.wav",
        "text": "了嘛\n所以我們認為怎麼樣來平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1373.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣讓我們的立法機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1374.wav",
        "text": "去監督整個電價的審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1375.wav",
        "text": "我想這一點很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1376.wav",
        "text": "做最後的審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1377.wav",
        "text": "要經過國會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1378.wav",
        "text": "去看一下你們審議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1379.wav",
        "text": "情況程序怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1380.wav",
        "text": "因為剛才講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1381.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨的那個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1382.wav",
        "text": "我們也贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1383.wav",
        "text": "公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1384.wav",
        "text": "啊整個審議的程序是公開透明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1385.wav",
        "text": "這個我們都贊同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1386.wav",
        "text": "但是最後把它交到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1387.wav",
        "text": "來做最後的行使同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1388.wav",
        "text": "我想這是我們幫人民來把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1389.wav",
        "text": "讓我們大家更瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1390.wav",
        "text": "電價為什麼凍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1391.wav",
        "text": "現在又要漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1392.wav",
        "text": "那你漲的幅度是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1393.wav",
        "text": "我想這並行不悖的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1394.wav",
        "text": "這絕對沒有背離民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1395.wav",
        "text": "大家思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1396.wav",
        "text": "林思銘委員謝謝你的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1397.wav",
        "text": "你要堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1398.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團所提的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1399.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1400.wav",
        "text": "因為我們等一下行政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1401.wav",
        "text": "門還要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1402.wav",
        "text": "好不好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1403.wav",
        "text": "好啦謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1404.wav",
        "text": "民進黨跟國民黨給我支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1405.wav",
        "text": "就要用我們的版本通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1406.wav",
        "text": "不過我要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1407.wav",
        "text": "事實上哪一個黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1408.wav",
        "text": "贏不是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1409.wav",
        "text": "全民贏是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1410.wav",
        "text": "而且要回應民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1411.wav",
        "text": "所以大家不要只有看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1412.wav",
        "text": "我們條文的表面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1413.wav",
        "text": "裡面真正的重點是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1414.wav",
        "text": "第一個為什麼要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1415.wav",
        "text": "民間團體跟學者專家放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1416.wav",
        "text": "第一個是因為目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1417.wav",
        "text": "就是要改革目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1418.wav",
        "text": "啊目前的方式就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1419.wav",
        "text": "行政體系官方的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1420.wav",
        "text": "獨大而且獨裁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1421.wav",
        "text": "啊從2月份開始討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1422.wav",
        "text": "要漲到4月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1423.wav",
        "text": "漲到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1424.wav",
        "text": "人民的訴求沒有被回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1425.wav",
        "text": "獨大又獨裁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1426.wav",
        "text": "所以必須要改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1427.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1428.wav",
        "text": "第二個更重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1429.wav",
        "text": "為什麼講到公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1430.wav",
        "text": "而且民間聲音要出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1431.wav",
        "text": "你到目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1432.wav",
        "text": "也是要回應人民的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1433.wav",
        "text": "啊我相信部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1434.wav",
        "text": "大概也聽了一百零次以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1435.wav",
        "text": "了現在我們的能源結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1436.wav",
        "text": "有沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1437.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一定要挑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1438.wav",
        "text": "這時候漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1439.wav",
        "text": "漲這個幅度多大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1440.wav",
        "text": "有沒有一個解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1441.wav",
        "text": "\n到目前也沒有詳細的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1442.wav",
        "text": "啊買電有沒有買太貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1443.wav",
        "text": "啊核能要不要用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1444.wav",
        "text": "啊部長可能上任到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1445.wav",
        "text": "被問了一百零次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1446.wav",
        "text": "署長跟文生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1447.wav",
        "text": "大概被問了一千次以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1448.wav",
        "text": "了吧你們有回應人民的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1449.wav",
        "text": "嗎所以為什麼我們的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1450.wav",
        "text": "要公平公開還要透明化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1451.wav",
        "text": "所以我是很具體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1452.wav",
        "text": "這個裡面的意涵是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1453.wav",
        "text": "\n一個是讓民間跟專家的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1454.wav",
        "text": "真的出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1455.wav",
        "text": "不是像申翰你講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1456.wav",
        "text": "什麼一定是反對漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1457.wav",
        "text": "或者反對不漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1458.wav",
        "text": "不是那個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1459.wav",
        "text": "你要找到真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1460.wav",
        "text": "幫人民解決問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1461.wav",
        "text": "學者專家跟民間代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1462.wav",
        "text": "第二更重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1463.wav",
        "text": "是讓人民看到公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1464.wav",
        "text": "包括全程直播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1465.wav",
        "text": "更重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1466.wav",
        "text": "人民有那麼多我剛剛的疑問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1467.wav",
        "text": "買電有沒有買太貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1468.wav",
        "text": "核能真的不能用嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1469.wav",
        "text": "你的結構是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1470.wav",
        "text": "你要回應人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1471.wav",
        "text": "謝謝啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1472.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1473.wav",
        "text": "請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1474.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1475.wav",
        "text": "我想今天的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1476.wav",
        "text": "就非常地理想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1477.wav",
        "text": "部長也坐在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1478.wav",
        "text": "聆聽各政黨表達的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1479.wav",
        "text": "\n我要特別強調2017年執行到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1480.wav",
        "text": "2017年執行到現在的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1481.wav",
        "text": "也是立法院來訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1482.wav",
        "text": "當時的那些遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1483.wav",
        "text": "終究就是代表百分之百的民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1484.wav",
        "text": "來做所有各種聲音的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1485.wav",
        "text": "我們的能源政策是不是符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1486.wav",
        "text": "目前所有產業的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1487.wav",
        "text": "以及民生的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1488.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠完全來符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1489.wav",
        "text": "而且民生是不是能夠承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1490.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個波動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1491.wav",
        "text": "這個都是可以公開討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1492.wav",
        "text": "過去的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1493.wav",
        "text": "是立法院來制定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1494.wav",
        "text": "現在當然是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1495.wav",
        "text": "我要特別強調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1496.wav",
        "text": "我要謝謝今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1497.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1498.wav",
        "text": "強調一件事情叫專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1499.wav",
        "text": "我想我們部長是很專業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1500.wav",
        "text": "一直強調專業專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1501.wav",
        "text": "我非常認同專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1502.wav",
        "text": "但是今天郭部長說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1503.wav",
        "text": "核能當然是一個選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1504.wav",
        "text": "馬上被執政黨打臉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1505.wav",
        "text": "專業的意見有聽到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1506.wav",
        "text": "所以我們必須來省思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1507.wav",
        "text": "而且我們今天做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1508.wav",
        "text": "負責任的在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1509.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼會讓國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1510.wav",
        "text": "就是因為我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1511.wav",
        "text": "台電如果倒閉誰要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1512.wav",
        "text": "所以我們很負責任在明天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1513.wav",
        "text": "由國民黨來排審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1514.wav",
        "text": "國民黨有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1515.wav",
        "text": "現在我們擔心台電會不會倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1516.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會是在野黨來提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1517.wav",
        "text": "在明天教育委員會要來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1518.wav",
        "text": "這應該是執政者要擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1519.wav",
        "text": "但我們不會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1520.wav",
        "text": "因為這個就是國家的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1521.wav",
        "text": "更是在野黨應該要做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1522.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我要特別表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1523.wav",
        "text": "台電如果倒怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1524.wav",
        "text": "我們大家一起面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1525.wav",
        "text": "我們中央政府到底補助了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1526.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1527.wav",
        "text": "因為台電可能會倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1528.wav",
        "text": "這麼大的虧損要怎麼解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1529.wav",
        "text": "這是花人民的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1530.wav",
        "text": "我們可以當作沒有看到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1531.wav",
        "text": "未來是不是無底洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1532.wav",
        "text": "我們明天已經排了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1533.wav",
        "text": "核三是否延役的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1534.wav",
        "text": "還有整個再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1535.wav",
        "text": "這整體的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1536.wav",
        "text": "這應該是可以公開來討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1537.wav",
        "text": "發生了這麼多社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1538.wav",
        "text": "衝突跟凶殺的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1539.wav",
        "text": "這個當然是要來面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1540.wav",
        "text": "但我還是要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1541.wav",
        "text": "立法院一定是最後的捕手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1542.wav",
        "text": "這有各種聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1543.wav",
        "text": "百分之百的民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1544.wav",
        "text": "是在國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1545.wav",
        "text": "我們當然尊重專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1546.wav",
        "text": "但如果專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1547.wav",
        "text": "一句話就講完那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1548.wav",
        "text": "專家學者是誰請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1549.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有各個政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1550.wav",
        "text": "都有邀請專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1551.wav",
        "text": "\n組成是怎麼組成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1552.wav",
        "text": "還有一個最後我還是要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1553.wav",
        "text": "如果專家學者可以審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1554.wav",
        "text": "任何一切事情的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1555.wav",
        "text": "以後國家總預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1556.wav",
        "text": "讓專家學者來審議就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1557.wav",
        "text": "來審議就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1558.wav",
        "text": "嘛那國會要做的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1559.wav",
        "text": "國會當然是最後的捕手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1560.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我們不可以否定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1561.wav",
        "text": "國會該有的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1562.wav",
        "text": "跟它應有的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1563.wav",
        "text": "謝謝傅崐萁總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1564.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1565.wav",
        "text": "經濟部郭部長請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1566.wav",
        "text": "下面就是行政部門請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1567.wav",
        "text": "\n請柯總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1568.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1569.wav",
        "text": "台電的電價問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1570.wav",
        "text": "長期以來就是一個很糾葛的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1571.wav",
        "text": "這當然攸關著所有的能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1572.wav",
        "text": "包括過去從民國49年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1573.wav",
        "text": "也就是1960年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1574.wav",
        "text": "就有一個公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1575.wav",
        "text": "但是屢屢被檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1576.wav",
        "text": "所以後來行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1577.wav",
        "text": "有一個公共事業審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1578.wav",
        "text": "後來改為主計處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1579.wav",
        "text": "\n我們今天要談的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1580.wav",
        "text": "我們在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1581.wav",
        "text": "針對剛才傅總召最後的談話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1582.wav",
        "text": "他說專家來審查這個公式的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1583.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1584.wav",
        "text": "呢這兩個不可以類比的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1585.wav",
        "text": "審查預算法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1586.wav",
        "text": "的是立法院我們是憲法所賦予的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1587.wav",
        "text": "憲法第63條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1588.wav",
        "text": "立法院議決法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1589.wav",
        "text": "所以這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1590.wav",
        "text": "不能說一生氣起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1591.wav",
        "text": "就跳tone去比喻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1592.wav",
        "text": "\n你講了一句很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1593.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛仔細聽你講了一句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1594.wav",
        "text": "那台電倒了怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1595.wav",
        "text": "大家都在想這個問題嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1596.wav",
        "text": "電如果倒了一定是全民的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1597.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以今天我們在談整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1598.wav",
        "text": "電的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1599.wav",
        "text": "這是不是立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1600.wav",
        "text": "我在這裡30年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1601.wav",
        "text": "30年來這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1602.wav",
        "text": "屢屢不斷地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1603.wav",
        "text": "\n我剛才講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1604.wav",
        "text": "本來就是有公式之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1605.wav",
        "text": "後公式沒有實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1606.wav",
        "text": "後來來了主計處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1607.wav",
        "text": "那時候還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1608.wav",
        "text": "公共事業審議委員會等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1609.wav",
        "text": "太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1610.wav",
        "text": "經濟部長是施顏祥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1611.wav",
        "text": "我就問他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1612.wav",
        "text": "他說沒有公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1613.wav",
        "text": "因為執政者都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1614.wav",
        "text": "不管是哪一黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1615.wav",
        "text": "這個電價是非常高度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1616.wav",
        "text": "政治性的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1617.wav",
        "text": "不是純然很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1618.wav",
        "text": "一加一等於二的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1619.wav",
        "text": "乃至於本黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1620.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1621.wav",
        "text": "在野黨也天天挑戰執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1622.wav",
        "text": "這30年來的這種歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1623.wav",
        "text": "一再重複地發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1624.wav",
        "text": "4月17號時我就問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1625.wav",
        "text": "時任的行政院長叫陳冲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1626.wav",
        "text": "冲經濟部長是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1627.wav",
        "text": "\n經濟部長就是施顏祥嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1628.wav",
        "text": "這些人都還在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1629.wav",
        "text": "我說你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1630.wav",
        "text": "現在電價到底有沒有公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1631.wav",
        "text": "以前不是有公式嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1632.wav",
        "text": "我們現在到底是怎麼來訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1633.wav",
        "text": "電價的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1634.wav",
        "text": "要問審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1635.wav",
        "text": "但審議委員會說有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1636.wav",
        "text": "審議委員會又名存實亡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1637.wav",
        "text": "所以才引發了一些問題出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1638.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們在野的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1639.wav",
        "text": "就一直挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1640.wav",
        "text": "這個東西當然要澈底解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1641.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都參加過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1642.wav",
        "text": "的要澈底解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1643.wav",
        "text": "我們知道馬英九曾經凍漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1644.wav",
        "text": "造成台電嚴重的損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1645.wav",
        "text": "所以搞到後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1646.wav",
        "text": "4月的時候總質詢的公開質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1647.wav",
        "text": "我們就一直攻這一題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1648.wav",
        "text": "到了2013年9月27號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1649.wav",
        "text": "終於馬英九時代的行政院把公式送進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1650.wav",
        "text": "他也很認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1651.wav",
        "text": "這個一審查搞了多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1652.wav",
        "text": "搞了一年多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1653.wav",
        "text": "2013年9月27日送進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1654.wav",
        "text": "後來三讀通過是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1655.wav",
        "text": "時候2015年1月20日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1656.wav",
        "text": "這是整個過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1657.wav",
        "text": "公式送進來立法院通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1658.wav",
        "text": "到2017年民進黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1659.wav",
        "text": "\n到這一屆來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1660.wav",
        "text": "藍白要凍漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1661.wav",
        "text": "糟糕了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1662.wav",
        "text": "凍漲電價怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1663.wav",
        "text": "後來沒有結果大家表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1664.wav",
        "text": "嘛現在又有電業法修正送進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1665.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員以及黃珊珊委員所談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1666.wav",
        "text": "就是他們有提一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1667.wav",
        "text": "這個案子和國民黨的案子是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1668.wav",
        "text": "完全不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1669.wav",
        "text": "這要脫鉤處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1670.wav",
        "text": "我們現在先講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1671.wav",
        "text": "你們的案子當然我們能夠贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1672.wav",
        "text": "全世界沒有立法委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1673.wav",
        "text": "個很專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1674.wav",
        "text": "的這樣沒有人看得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1675.wav",
        "text": "立法委員在審查電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1676.wav",
        "text": "你知道這個有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1677.wav",
        "text": "有很多過去為了電價問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1678.wav",
        "text": "IPP的電價等等太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1679.wav",
        "text": "還有成本的計算等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1680.wav",
        "text": "這個是高度專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1681.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1682.wav",
        "text": "我們今天面對的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1683.wav",
        "text": "我們都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1684.wav",
        "text": "台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1685.wav",
        "text": "必須要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1686.wav",
        "text": "所以我在朝野協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1687.wav",
        "text": "一直跟韓院長拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1688.wav",
        "text": "我們有一個追加預算1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1689.wav",
        "text": "大概有三種方法而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1690.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1691.wav",
        "text": "它因為過去資本支出太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1692.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1693.wav",
        "text": "2008百多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1694.wav",
        "text": "它吸收了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1695.wav",
        "text": "這個還不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1696.wav",
        "text": "認列認列下來台電早就破產了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1697.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1698.wav",
        "text": "當一個公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1699.wav",
        "text": "淨值一半的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1700.wav",
        "text": "當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1701.wav",
        "text": "所以台電必須要增資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1702.wav",
        "text": "政府給台電增資的第1條路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1703.wav",
        "text": "在上一屆的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1704.wav",
        "text": "在審查國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1705.wav",
        "text": "台電預算的時候都通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1706.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1707.wav",
        "text": "當然是要給它漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1708.wav",
        "text": "第三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1709.wav",
        "text": "政府要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1710.wav",
        "text": "對台電補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1711.wav",
        "text": "的追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1712.wav",
        "text": "跟主計總處大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1713.wav",
        "text": "都討論過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1714.wav",
        "text": "\n所以今天我們面對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1715.wav",
        "text": "回到理性面來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1716.wav",
        "text": "我們看到張啓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1717.wav",
        "text": "黃珊珊講的都很有道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1718.wav",
        "text": "當然他們的是公平公開公正的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1719.wav",
        "text": "過去時代力量曾經提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1720.wav",
        "text": "應該是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1721.wav",
        "text": "我們也提出我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1722.wav",
        "text": "最後一項的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1723.wav",
        "text": "這裡面當然還包括了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1724.wav",
        "text": "能源使用效益等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1725.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1726.wav",
        "text": "大家把所有看法集中完整一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1727.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1728.wav",
        "text": "有一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1729.wav",
        "text": "國民黨那個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1730.wav",
        "text": "我們共同來提一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1731.wav",
        "text": "的學者專家等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1732.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1733.wav",
        "text": "所以希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1734.wav",
        "text": "大家今天能夠理性來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1735.wav",
        "text": "但是國民黨的案子說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1736.wav",
        "text": "要立法院來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1737.wav",
        "text": "是不通的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1738.wav",
        "text": "瓦斯是不是也要來這裡審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1739.wav",
        "text": "自來水也要來這裡審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1740.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1741.wav",
        "text": "這個是高度專業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1742.wav",
        "text": "我們要信任專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1743.wav",
        "text": "立法院可以監督沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1744.wav",
        "text": "但是不是立法院拿來自己處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1745.wav",
        "text": "立法院絕對沒有這個能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1746.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1747.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1748.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請經濟部郭部長發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1749.wav",
        "text": "請台電曾董事長準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1750.wav",
        "text": "韓院長以及各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1751.wav",
        "text": "我想以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1752.wav",
        "text": "我們對電價審議制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1753.wav",
        "text": "做一些簡要的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1754.wav",
        "text": "\n現在這個電價公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1755.wav",
        "text": "是依據立法院104年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1756.wav",
        "text": "決議通過的計算公式辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1757.wav",
        "text": "也依據立法院決議設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1758.wav",
        "text": "的電價費率審議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1759.wav",
        "text": "電價審議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1760.wav",
        "text": "我想剛才其他的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1761.wav",
        "text": "也已經說明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1762.wav",
        "text": "我就不再重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1763.wav",
        "text": "\n針對本案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1764.wav",
        "text": "我們的意見是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1765.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1766.wav",
        "text": "多數國家都由行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1767.wav",
        "text": "或電力監管機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1768.wav",
        "text": "成立審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1769.wav",
        "text": "建立電價的專業審查制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1770.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1771.wav",
        "text": "第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1772.wav",
        "text": "如果不這麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1773.wav",
        "text": "電價審議委員會將失去獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1774.wav",
        "text": "也會使電價審議結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1775.wav",
        "text": "具有高度的不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1776.wav",
        "text": "影響台電財務調度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1777.wav",
        "text": "不利台電永續經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1778.wav",
        "text": "及電網強韌建設工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1779.wav",
        "text": "第三點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1780.wav",
        "text": "因為電價的不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1781.wav",
        "text": "產業無法估算財務成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1782.wav",
        "text": "會影響產業投資決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1783.wav",
        "text": "對於社會及經濟活動的穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1784.wav",
        "text": "都會產生不好的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1785.wav",
        "text": "如果專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1786.wav",
        "text": "能夠超過二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1787.wav",
        "text": "我們行政單位是可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1788.wav",
        "text": "謝謝經濟部郭部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1789.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請台電曾董事長請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1790.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1791.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1792.wav",
        "text": "剛才部長講的台電一定會遵照執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1793.wav",
        "text": "容我有一點點補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1794.wav",
        "text": "時間上的穩定性是有必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1795.wav",
        "text": "因為那個不只對台電的財務有影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1796.wav",
        "text": "事實上任何的公司在編製"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1797.wav",
        "text": "隔年度的財報還有財務預算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1798.wav",
        "text": "都要有一個電價的估算值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1799.wav",
        "text": "各位委員有注意到這幾年電價的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1800.wav",
        "text": "其實有一個把時間拉長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1801.wav",
        "text": "這也是電價委員會想出來的一個邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1802.wav",
        "text": "就是它有一定程度的可預測性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1803.wav",
        "text": "我想各位委員都有在觀察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1804.wav",
        "text": "這幾年電價成長的調整方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1805.wav",
        "text": "其實包含我們國內的企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1806.wav",
        "text": "應該都能夠稍微掌握到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1807.wav",
        "text": "我們電價調整的斜率是長怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1808.wav",
        "text": "我們今年甚至還多做了一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1809.wav",
        "text": "就是針對用電的大戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1810.wav",
        "text": "接近成本也等於是間接地告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1811.wav",
        "text": "我們的成本在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1812.wav",
        "text": "報告各位委員我們在設定電價的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1813.wav",
        "text": "因為考慮的方向很多燃料成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1814.wav",
        "text": "這些當然都是影響它成長最重要的關鍵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1815.wav",
        "text": "但怎樣讓社會有一個清楚的訊號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1816.wav",
        "text": "可以去做後續相關的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1817.wav",
        "text": "確實是我們在考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1818.wav",
        "text": "整個電價設定的時候的一些用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1819.wav",
        "text": "\n最後我要跟院長也跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1820.wav",
        "text": "很多委員不斷地問有關我們電價成本結構等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1821.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1822.wav",
        "text": "台電的預算就會送立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1823.wav",
        "text": "還有包括我們1,000億的追加預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1824.wav",
        "text": "如果有要審查台電公司一定善盡責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1825.wav",
        "text": "來跟大院做詳細的報告謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1826.wav",
        "text": "請曾董事長再繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1827.wav",
        "text": "好院長好還有各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1828.wav",
        "text": "我簡單說一下我們現在在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1829.wav",
        "text": "部長也指示我們要做兩件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1830.wav",
        "text": "一個是就區域性在時間上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1831.wav",
        "text": "它的電網設計已經到了一個階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1832.wav",
        "text": "然後用電成長又比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1833.wav",
        "text": "比方說內湖南港就需要被特別關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1834.wav",
        "text": "桃園也是我們會針對這一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1835.wav",
        "text": "需要特別關注的地區提早做一些換線的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1836.wav",
        "text": "\n另外一個是高關注的地方就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1837.wav",
        "text": "我們有些重要的公共設施事實上這次是桃機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1838.wav",
        "text": "一兩個禮拜以前是松山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1839.wav",
        "text": "它都是內部電路的故障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1840.wav",
        "text": "而且只要一看它停的是局部不是全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1841.wav",
        "text": "通常都是內部電路問題比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1842.wav",
        "text": "不會是台電因為台電是外部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1843.wav",
        "text": "如果一停會是比較全面性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1844.wav",
        "text": "當然如果說有一些電路故障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1845.wav",
        "text": "台電站在服務客戶的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1846.wav",
        "text": "尤其是關鍵設施不管是醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1847.wav",
        "text": "或是交通設施台電都會主動進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1848.wav",
        "text": "協助排除問題排除障礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1849.wav",
        "text": "我想這一點特別跟委員做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1850.wav",
        "text": "減少跳電的工作也會協助用戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1851.wav",
        "text": "減少這一些相關電力設備故障的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1852.wav",
        "text": "謝謝曾董事長\n台電王總經理要不要補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1853.wav",
        "text": "院長各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1854.wav",
        "text": "桃園機場停電這件事我補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1855.wav",
        "text": "我們台電供應給桃園機場的電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1856.wav",
        "text": "是16.1萬伏特的高壓電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1857.wav",
        "text": "送給他們之後他們會把它轉成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1858.wav",
        "text": "2萬2,000伏特的電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1859.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分都是由機場內部去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1860.wav",
        "text": "這次是因為在早上凌晨三點多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1861.wav",
        "text": "它的內部線路某一部分是供給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1862.wav",
        "text": "機場的海關的部分某一部分是供給免稅店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1863.wav",
        "text": "等等這些不同的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1864.wav",
        "text": "它在這邊做切換下游這邊做切換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1865.wav",
        "text": "切換的話只是瞬停一分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1866.wav",
        "text": "機器出了問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1867.wav",
        "text": "大概是這個原因是他們內部的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1868.wav",
        "text": "那這個切換就停了一分鐘造成那邊是停了多長時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1869.wav",
        "text": "內部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1870.wav",
        "text": "它內部維修切換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1871.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝我們台電曾董事長跟王總經理的補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1872.wav",
        "text": "各位委員同仁現在已經討論到這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1873.wav",
        "text": "現在台灣民眾黨提了一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1874.wav",
        "text": "也已經印發到各位手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1875.wav",
        "text": "達成一個基本上差不多已經達成一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1876.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召要不要補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1877.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1878.wav",
        "text": "院長抱歉你所謂的共識就是現在國民黨跟民對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1879.wav",
        "text": "都一致嘛那用我們的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1880.wav",
        "text": "民進黨那一塊可以用類似附帶決議這樣來提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1881.wav",
        "text": "現在我們國民黨團現在堅持立法院這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1882.wav",
        "text": "我建議休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1883.wav",
        "text": "這5分鐘之內大家開始來進一步協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1884.wav",
        "text": "如果5分鐘之後我們沒辦法達成大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1885.wav",
        "text": "彼此共識的話那我就要宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1886.wav",
        "text": "我們處理的方式好不好好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1887.wav",
        "text": "休息一下大家討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1888.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1889.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1890.wav",
        "text": "針對法律適用問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1891.wav",
        "text": "我先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1892.wav",
        "text": "就兩個層面來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1893.wav",
        "text": "第一個如果從一般法律適用的角度來觀察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1894.wav",
        "text": "因為針對新舊法的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1895.wav",
        "text": "中央法規標準法第十八條定有一般性原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1896.wav",
        "text": "原則上各機關在適用法規的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1897.wav",
        "text": "如果在處理程序終結之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1898.wav",
        "text": "者適用新法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1899.wav",
        "text": "這是一般我們所稱的實體從舊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1900.wav",
        "text": "程序從新的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1901.wav",
        "text": "也曾經對這個法條作出函釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1902.wav",
        "text": "釋裡面指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1903.wav",
        "text": "中央法規標準法第十八條所稱從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1904.wav",
        "text": "從新從優原則的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1905.wav",
        "text": "是指在處理程序終結前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1906.wav",
        "text": "實際法規有變更者而言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1907.wav",
        "text": "原則上就是依照程序從新的原則來適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1908.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們有發資料給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1909.wav",
        "text": "第一份第1頁就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1910.wav",
        "text": "法務部所作的函釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1911.wav",
        "text": "釋重點部分我有用螢光筆註記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1912.wav",
        "text": "讓委員便於閱讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1913.wav",
        "text": "這次立法院職權行使法有關同意權的修正條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1914.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有特別另定施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1915.wav",
        "text": "所以原則上就是適用一般施行的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1916.wav",
        "text": "自總統發布日就是113年6月24號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1917.wav",
        "text": "算到第三日現在已經發生效力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1918.wav",
        "text": "針對新舊法的法規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1919.wav",
        "text": "有一些差異性的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1920.wav",
        "text": "到底要適用舊法或適用新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1921.wav",
        "text": "\n這部分本院應該可以有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1922.wav",
        "text": "國會自律原則的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1923.wav",
        "text": "針對這次同意權的修正條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1924.wav",
        "text": "大致上來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1925.wav",
        "text": "都是屬於這些程序事項的一些修正規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1926.wav",
        "text": "依照剛剛所報告的一般法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1927.wav",
        "text": "適用的法理來推論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1928.wav",
        "text": "原則上就是適用修正後的新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1929.wav",
        "text": "來行使相關的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1930.wav",
        "text": "所以仍然有爭議存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1931.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該直接適用新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1932.wav",
        "text": "等等這方面的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1933.wav",
        "text": "這個修正條文現在已經是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1934.wav",
        "text": "有效施行公布的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1935.wav",
        "text": "本院是不是可以自主決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1936.wav",
        "text": "適用舊法或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1937.wav",
        "text": "或者是為了避免爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1938.wav",
        "text": "先適用舊法的程序部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1939.wav",
        "text": "這部分可以參考大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1940.wav",
        "text": "前面曾經做出的釋字第342號解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1941.wav",
        "text": "這邊我也幫各位印了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1942.wav",
        "text": "用螢光註記的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1943.wav",
        "text": "也給各位參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1944.wav",
        "text": "它的解釋理由書已經明文指出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1945.wav",
        "text": "國會行使立法權的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1946.wav",
        "text": "議事規範要如何進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1947.wav",
        "text": "是屬於我們國會的內部事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1948.wav",
        "text": "國會自律或是國會自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1949.wav",
        "text": "各國國會的議事規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1950.wav",
        "text": "除了在適用之際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1951.wav",
        "text": "甚至也可以根據自己的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1952.wav",
        "text": "再加以變通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1953.wav",
        "text": "但是必須由做這個主張的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1954.wav",
        "text": "意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1955.wav",
        "text": "國會議事規範的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1956.wav",
        "text": "跟我們一般行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1957.wav",
        "text": "必須依照法規嚴格執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1958.wav",
        "text": "並且受監督跟審查情形是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1959.wav",
        "text": "\n綜上委員針對同意權行使的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1960.wav",
        "text": "是不是要透過決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1961.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商結論的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1962.wav",
        "text": "加以變通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1963.wav",
        "text": "然後依照前述大法官解釋的意旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1964.wav",
        "text": "我認為是有國會自律原則的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1965.wav",
        "text": "依照法規嚴格執行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1966.wav",
        "text": "適用情形有所不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1967.wav",
        "text": "以上簡單說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1968.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1969.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個重點因為新舊法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1970.wav",
        "text": "牽涉到我們院會的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1971.wav",
        "text": "會有非常大的不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1972.wav",
        "text": "我們請議事處的高處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1973.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1974.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團幹部說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1975.wav",
        "text": "新法跟舊法的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1976.wav",
        "text": "認為有國會自律原則的適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1977.wav",
        "text": "當然不必有所謂的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1978.wav",
        "text": "為了要方便各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1979.wav",
        "text": "瞭解過去舊法時期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1980.wav",
        "text": "或新法時期有什麼不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1981.wav",
        "text": "在時程上我來做一個初步說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1982.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨鞭手上有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1983.wav",
        "text": "也就是目前的考試院長黃榮村"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1984.wav",
        "text": "那時候我們在109年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1985.wav",
        "text": "院會的處理方式是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1986.wav",
        "text": "公聽會日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1987.wav",
        "text": "是7月7號使用半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1988.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會審查會的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1989.wav",
        "text": "黃榮村考試院院長被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1990.wav",
        "text": "我們是利用半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1991.wav",
        "text": "就是7月8號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1992.wav",
        "text": "副院長周弘憲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1993.wav",
        "text": "上一次是在7月8號的下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1994.wav",
        "text": "就是各半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1995.wav",
        "text": "也就是院長副院長是利用一天的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1996.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會來進行口頭詢問跟答復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1997.wav",
        "text": "復另外考委的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1998.wav",
        "text": "上一次的考委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/1999.wav",
        "text": "我們也是利用一天的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2000.wav",
        "text": "來進行說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2001.wav",
        "text": "等於是利用一天的時間來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2002.wav",
        "text": "9位考委的的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2003.wav",
        "text": "口頭詢問跟說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2004.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在全院委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2005.wav",
        "text": "公聽會跟審查的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2006.wav",
        "text": "總共的工作時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2007.wav",
        "text": "是運用兩天半的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2008.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會一審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2009.wav",
        "text": "隔天院會就立刻進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2010.wav",
        "text": "同意權案的無記名投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2011.wav",
        "text": "整個全院委員會的審查時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2012.wav",
        "text": "包含院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2013.wav",
        "text": "總共使用三天半的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2014.wav",
        "text": "在舊法時期是比較緊密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2015.wav",
        "text": "\n但是新法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2016.wav",
        "text": "因為跟舊法有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2017.wav",
        "text": "主要的不同點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2018.wav",
        "text": "同意權案自交付審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2019.wav",
        "text": "期間是不能少於一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2020.wav",
        "text": "審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2021.wav",
        "text": "也必須針對被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2022.wav",
        "text": "去進行分開跟分別的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2023.wav",
        "text": "審查跟說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2024.wav",
        "text": "換言之舊法時期我們把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2025.wav",
        "text": "一起詢問這個當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2026.wav",
        "text": "在新法時期就可能要做分別的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2027.wav",
        "text": "另外就是全院委會審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2028.wav",
        "text": "隔天要不要進行同意權投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2029.wav",
        "text": "答案是不行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2030.wav",
        "text": "擬具審查報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2031.wav",
        "text": "要經過10天的等待期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2032.wav",
        "text": "院會才能夠進行同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2033.wav",
        "text": "權案的記名投票表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2034.wav",
        "text": "跟舊的無記名也不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2035.wav",
        "text": "要用記名投票表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2036.wav",
        "text": "另外在全院委會審查之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2037.wav",
        "text": "還有一個新的制度就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2038.wav",
        "text": "黨團可以跟被提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2039.wav",
        "text": "提出書面詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2040.wav",
        "text": "這個書面詢問要給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2041.wav",
        "text": "被提名人10天的準備時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2042.wav",
        "text": "而且被提名人也要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2043.wav",
        "text": "寫下一個結文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2044.wav",
        "text": "他必須要提供一個書面的結文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2045.wav",
        "text": "全院委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2046.wav",
        "text": "在進行口頭詢問的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2047.wav",
        "text": "被提名人在回答問題之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2048.wav",
        "text": "也要提供一個結文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2049.wav",
        "text": "所以針對結文的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2050.wav",
        "text": "法制局有提供一個結文草稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2051.wav",
        "text": "就是新法時期的結文草稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2052.wav",
        "text": "可能要給各黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2053.wav",
        "text": "鞭參考看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2054.wav",
        "text": "現在就發下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2055.wav",
        "text": "現在發各位幹部的手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2056.wav",
        "text": "結文草稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2057.wav",
        "text": "請大家參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2058.wav",
        "text": "我們審查期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2059.wav",
        "text": "依照新法規定是一定要開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2060.wav",
        "text": "舊法時期本來就有開公聽會半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2061.wav",
        "text": "所以審查期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2062.wav",
        "text": "有開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2063.wav",
        "text": "因為有一些等待期10天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2064.wav",
        "text": "然後詢問也有10天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2065.wav",
        "text": "所以如果我們將來決定要採用新法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2066.wav",
        "text": "那個時程還有它的審查密度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2067.wav",
        "text": "會比舊法時期的三天半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2068.wav",
        "text": "可能會來得長一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2069.wav",
        "text": "至於說要長多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2070.wav",
        "text": "這個當然就是透過國會自律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2071.wav",
        "text": "這個結文的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2072.wav",
        "text": "現在是給各位黨鞭做參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2073.wav",
        "text": "如果大家願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2074.wav",
        "text": "將來新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2075.wav",
        "text": "因為目前這個案子正在大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2076.wav",
        "text": "的憲法訴訟程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2077.wav",
        "text": "如果未來大家真的要用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2078.wav",
        "text": "對這個結文各黨團也有共識的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2079.wav",
        "text": "這個結文的參考格式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2080.wav",
        "text": "就給大家參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2081.wav",
        "text": "如果可以的話這個結文是拿來用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2082.wav",
        "text": "如果還沒有共識我們是不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2083.wav",
        "text": "在沒有黨團同意之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2084.wav",
        "text": "使用這樣的結文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2085.wav",
        "text": "\n所以以上的初步報告就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2086.wav",
        "text": "新法會比較長一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2087.wav",
        "text": "舊法會比較快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2088.wav",
        "text": "大概是三天半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2089.wav",
        "text": "當然將來審查時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2090.wav",
        "text": "要排多長多短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2091.wav",
        "text": "就要透過國會自律來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2092.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2093.wav",
        "text": "第一位請柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2094.wav",
        "text": "主席各位同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2095.wav",
        "text": "拿出來討論當然我們可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2096.wav",
        "text": "所有的結文什麼都弄出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2097.wav",
        "text": "第一個我要講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2098.wav",
        "text": "有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2099.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法在立法院通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2100.wav",
        "text": "本黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2101.wav",
        "text": "監察院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2102.wav",
        "text": "四個單位四箭齊發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2103.wav",
        "text": "就是這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2104.wav",
        "text": "四個單位都有提出釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2105.wav",
        "text": "同時也提出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2106.wav",
        "text": "暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2107.wav",
        "text": "況且我們要瞭解清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2108.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜我們在這裡協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2109.wav",
        "text": "明天下午就是要暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2110.wav",
        "text": "然後這個結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2111.wav",
        "text": "也有包括人事同意權的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2112.wav",
        "text": "因為這個很急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2113.wav",
        "text": "啊很急因為影響到立法院職權到底要怎麼行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2114.wav",
        "text": "下午各黨都要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2115.wav",
        "text": "包括立法院有三個代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2116.wav",
        "text": "也有三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2117.wav",
        "text": "訴訟律師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2118.wav",
        "text": "包括黃國昌委員也會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2119.wav",
        "text": "翁曉玲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2120.wav",
        "text": "玲我們黨團也有三個會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2121.wav",
        "text": "然後立法院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2122.wav",
        "text": "立法院的部分我們上次就簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2123.wav",
        "text": "就禮讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2124.wav",
        "text": "這個事情已經過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2125.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天討論這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2126.wav",
        "text": "並不適當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2127.wav",
        "text": "啦馬上就會裁決下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2128.wav",
        "text": "到底是怎麼樣我們不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2129.wav",
        "text": "但是另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2130.wav",
        "text": "實體性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2131.wav",
        "text": "是在8月6號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2132.wav",
        "text": "等這些都塵埃落定的時候我們再來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2133.wav",
        "text": "可能會比較恰當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2134.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2135.wav",
        "text": "\n這個沒有所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2136.wav",
        "text": "也不是釋字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2137.wav",
        "text": "42號也很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2138.wav",
        "text": "國安三法的問題第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2139.wav",
        "text": "號有一個很重要的就是不能違背憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2140.wav",
        "text": "這個很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2141.wav",
        "text": "所以剛才法制局提的釋字第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2142.wav",
        "text": "另外大法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2143.wav",
        "text": "問題的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2144.wav",
        "text": "也可以作為釋憲理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2145.wav",
        "text": "來暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2146.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2147.wav",
        "text": "還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2148.wav",
        "text": "總歸一句話明天下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2149.wav",
        "text": "各黨就要去憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2150.wav",
        "text": "了嘛我們今天討論這個並不是很恰當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2151.wav",
        "text": "接著請國民黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2152.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2153.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2154.wav",
        "text": "剛才法制局已經講得很清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2155.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法現在已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2156.wav",
        "text": "三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2157.wav",
        "text": "依照現行有效的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2158.wav",
        "text": "我想立法院也要依法行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2159.wav",
        "text": "既然職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2160.wav",
        "text": "是這樣規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2161.wav",
        "text": "程序一定是從新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2162.wav",
        "text": "沒有從舊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2163.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2164.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2165.wav",
        "text": "釋憲就一定會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2166.wav",
        "text": "你是大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2167.wav",
        "text": "你是大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2168.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2169.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2170.wav",
        "text": "發言是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2171.wav",
        "text": "沒有就沒有你已經澄清了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2172.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我想我們就依照法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2173.wav",
        "text": "的規定依據現行的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2174.wav",
        "text": "規定我們來做相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2175.wav",
        "text": "我再特別講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2176.wav",
        "text": "第342號解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2177.wav",
        "text": "第342號的大法官會議解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2178.wav",
        "text": "就看得出來國會自律國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2179.wav",
        "text": "自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2180.wav",
        "text": "所制定的相關法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2181.wav",
        "text": "這個要尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2182.wav",
        "text": "行政院要尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2183.wav",
        "text": "行政院都帶頭來提覆議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2184.wav",
        "text": "大法官會議解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2185.wav",
        "text": "就講那麼清楚了整個立法的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2186.wav",
        "text": "絕對是符合我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2187.wav",
        "text": "立法院自治的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2188.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法也符合我們國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2189.wav",
        "text": "自治的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2190.wav",
        "text": "所以我想我們整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2191.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法通過的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2192.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有任何疑義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2193.wav",
        "text": "我們應依照現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2194.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2195.wav",
        "text": "相關規定對考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2196.wav",
        "text": "進行相關的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2197.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2198.wav",
        "text": "還是透過言詞來加以表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2199.wav",
        "text": "在黨團協商的這個現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2200.wav",
        "text": "我真的覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2201.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼必要花太多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2202.wav",
        "text": "在辯論這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2203.wav",
        "text": "要不然的話我覺得可能辯論個三天三夜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2204.wav",
        "text": "時間都不夠用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2205.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2206.wav",
        "text": "我們法治國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2207.wav",
        "text": "就按照法律來施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2208.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2209.wav",
        "text": "還沒有創設一個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2210.wav",
        "text": "就是聲請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2211.wav",
        "text": "憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2212.wav",
        "text": "進行法規範的違憲審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2213.wav",
        "text": "就會導致法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2214.wav",
        "text": "凍結適用的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2215.wav",
        "text": "不管是誰聲請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2216.wav",
        "text": "就像人民對於稅法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2217.wav",
        "text": "如果認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2218.wav",
        "text": "有違憲疑義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2219.wav",
        "text": "而進行裁判的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2220.wav",
        "text": "在憲法法庭作出任何裁判以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2221.wav",
        "text": "也不會構成他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2222.wav",
        "text": "他已經聲請了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2223.wav",
        "text": "所以現在不用遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2224.wav",
        "text": "相關的法規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2225.wav",
        "text": "不用繳稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2226.wav",
        "text": "這部分我相信現行法的規定很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2227.wav",
        "text": "只有一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2228.wav",
        "text": "不管按照新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2229.wav",
        "text": "還是按照舊法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2230.wav",
        "text": "我們的院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2231.wav",
        "text": "按照上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2232.wav",
        "text": "協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2233.wav",
        "text": "是到7月16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2234.wav",
        "text": "以今天的角度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2235.wav",
        "text": "其實就只剩下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2236.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2237.wav",
        "text": "跟下禮拜二兩天可以使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2238.wav",
        "text": "當然我瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2239.wav",
        "text": "各個黨團對於接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2240.wav",
        "text": "到底是要延會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2241.wav",
        "text": "還是要開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2242.wav",
        "text": "有不同的主張我都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2243.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2244.wav",
        "text": "來進行就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2245.wav",
        "text": "只是在整個時程安排上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2246.wav",
        "text": "不管是新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2247.wav",
        "text": "還是舊法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2248.wav",
        "text": "因為新法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2249.wav",
        "text": "是比較高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2250.wav",
        "text": "所以時間會長一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2251.wav",
        "text": "舊法相對比較鬆散"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2252.wav",
        "text": "時間可以把它排得緊一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2253.wav",
        "text": "但不管是長的還是短的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2254.wav",
        "text": "基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2255.wav",
        "text": "大致的時間區塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2256.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以稍微簡單地請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2257.wav",
        "text": "大家表示一下看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2258.wav",
        "text": "我們到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2259.wav",
        "text": "要什麼時候做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2260.wav",
        "text": "我現在先不想進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2261.wav",
        "text": "要延會還是開臨時會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2262.wav",
        "text": "這不是現在檯面上面要處理的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2263.wav",
        "text": "不管是透過什麼樣的形式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2264.wav",
        "text": "我們是打算用7月的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2265.wav",
        "text": "下半旬處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2266.wav",
        "text": "用8月處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2267.wav",
        "text": "還是用9月處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2268.wav",
        "text": "如果有一個比較大致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2269.wav",
        "text": "時間規劃的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2270.wav",
        "text": "我相信對於本院其他同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2271.wav",
        "text": "工作上面的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2272.wav",
        "text": "也會有一個比較清楚的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2273.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2274.wav",
        "text": "是台灣民眾黨黨團的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2275.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2276.wav",
        "text": "\n關於時程上的長短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2277.wav",
        "text": "這個分析我會請議事處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2278.wav",
        "text": "準備一個書面資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2279.wav",
        "text": "請各黨團來參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2280.wav",
        "text": "如果是舊法它的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2281.wav",
        "text": "會怎麼樣來安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2282.wav",
        "text": "如果是新法它會消耗多少時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2283.wav",
        "text": "大概怎麼樣來排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2284.wav",
        "text": "這個要跟大家做一個分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2285.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2286.wav",
        "text": "鍾佳濱召委發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2287.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2288.wav",
        "text": "院長主席各黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2289.wav",
        "text": "關於第2項的考試院人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2290.wav",
        "text": "同意權相關事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2291.wav",
        "text": "主要的關鍵還是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2292.wav",
        "text": "16號我們可能有些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2293.wav",
        "text": "重要的法案希望能夠及時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2294.wav",
        "text": "完成立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2295.wav",
        "text": "這個案子倒不是跟立法有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2296.wav",
        "text": "是跟後續的議事日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2297.wav",
        "text": "有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2298.wav",
        "text": "其實同仁們關切的都是在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2299.wav",
        "text": "16號之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2300.wav",
        "text": "下一次的集會日程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2301.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2302.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2303.wav",
        "text": "誠如剛剛主席所裁示的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2304.wav",
        "text": "舊制新制可能需要的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2305.wav",
        "text": "我們可以在16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2306.wav",
        "text": "院會之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2307.wav",
        "text": "透過簡單的一個程序去議定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2308.wav",
        "text": "16號之後的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2309.wav",
        "text": "議事日程怎麼安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2310.wav",
        "text": "這個議題留在那時候討論就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2311.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2312.wav",
        "text": "也有到訪的外賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2313.wav",
        "text": "所以我們早上協商到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2314.wav",
        "text": "下午2點我們繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2315.wav",
        "text": "然後我們有一個打詐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2316.wav",
        "text": "對不起我先把這個講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2317.wav",
        "text": "之後讓你發言我們有個打詐四法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2318.wav",
        "text": "那是非常重要的一個法律案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2319.wav",
        "text": "也要請大家踴躍出席\n請黃國昌總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2320.wav",
        "text": "下午的協商有個預定的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2321.wav",
        "text": "還是把它全部處理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2322.wav",
        "text": "2點到3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2323.wav",
        "text": "但是我希望能夠把它處理完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2324.wav",
        "text": "明天後天都可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2325.wav",
        "text": "案子很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2326.wav",
        "text": "請大家黨團要做好心理準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2327.wav",
        "text": "我們明天後天也有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2328.wav",
        "text": "要繼續召開朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2329.wav",
        "text": "如果我們沒有處理完的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2330.wav",
        "text": "我講1分鐘就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2331.wav",
        "text": "我們曾經朝野協商過有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2332.wav",
        "text": "同意權的行使都是臨時會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2333.wav",
        "text": "抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2334.wav",
        "text": "有滿多需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2335.wav",
        "text": "大家一起坐下來談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2336.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2337.wav",
        "text": "今天下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2338.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們盡可能就把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2339.wav",
        "text": "執政黨需要通過的打詐四法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2340.wav",
        "text": "我們下午2點到3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2341.wav",
        "text": "儘量把打詐四法這部分先處理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2342.wav",
        "text": "我們先講明天幾點協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2343.wav",
        "text": "明天早上10點繼續協商可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2344.wav",
        "text": "因為下午要到憲法法庭吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2345.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2346.wav",
        "text": "明天上午有委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2347.wav",
        "text": "那是專案報告可以先講一講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2348.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2349.wav",
        "text": "我還有委員會要質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2350.wav",
        "text": "然後下午還有憲法法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2351.wav",
        "text": "我現在是把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2352.wav",
        "text": "很現實的工作時程跟院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2353.wav",
        "text": "做報告並不是說我人不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2354.wav",
        "text": "院內跑去玩或是其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2355.wav",
        "text": "地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2356.wav",
        "text": "現實上面明天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2357.wav",
        "text": "是有委員會要進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2358.wav",
        "text": "那這樣好不好──拜託大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2359.wav",
        "text": "全部空出來好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2360.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2361.wav",
        "text": "要排有關於反貪腐法制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2362.wav",
        "text": "跟妨害司法公正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2363.wav",
        "text": "所以就禮拜四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2364.wav",
        "text": "的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2365.wav",
        "text": "我必須要回去黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2366.wav",
        "text": "再跟其他兩位幹部協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2367.wav",
        "text": "看時間上面大家是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2368.wav",
        "text": "能夠配合因為禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2369.wav",
        "text": "四的司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2370.wav",
        "text": "有重要的法案詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2371.wav",
        "text": "也要排那我定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2372.wav",
        "text": "星期四下午2點好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2373.wav",
        "text": "院長我講一下等一下請柯總召補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2374.wav",
        "text": "我講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2375.wav",
        "text": "你說你明天上午有委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2376.wav",
        "text": "那是專案報告只"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2377.wav",
        "text": "只要有心的話你就先去發言就來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2378.wav",
        "text": "沒有參加是有跟院長言明在先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2379.wav",
        "text": "沒有黨鞭說我有委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2380.wav",
        "text": "你說這是第一優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2381.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都知道你剛才自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2382.wav",
        "text": "也講得很清楚剩12號16號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2383.wav",
        "text": "很多法案要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2384.wav",
        "text": "所以大家必須空出時間這是你黨鞭責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2385.wav",
        "text": "黨鞭不能說我有委員會就不來參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2386.wav",
        "text": "大家一直拖著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2387.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以我是希望黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2388.wav",
        "text": "還是要做黨鞭的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2389.wav",
        "text": "已經到最後的時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2390.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤幹事長補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2391.wav",
        "text": "你可以先派其他委員來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2392.wav",
        "text": "時間上可能明天比較適妥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2393.wav",
        "text": "明天上午因為我們同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2394.wav",
        "text": "都是司法及法制委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2395.wav",
        "text": "明天的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2396.wav",
        "text": "如果委員可以早一點去安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2397.wav",
        "text": "質詢這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2398.wav",
        "text": "\n另外禮拜四的時間比較不妥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2399.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2400.wav",
        "text": "所以都會overlap這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2401.wav",
        "text": "為了擔心禮拜四都卡住明天可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2402.wav",
        "text": "先行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2403.wav",
        "text": "吳宗憲也有排啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2404.wav",
        "text": "\n所以明天先協商比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2405.wav",
        "text": "最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2406.wav",
        "text": "所以明天比較好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2407.wav",
        "text": "四法都協商完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2408.wav",
        "text": "那我們心理壓力就減輕了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2409.wav",
        "text": "所以我們做一個補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2410.wav",
        "text": "請黃國昌總召明天早上10點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2411.wav",
        "text": "我們做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2412.wav",
        "text": "明天因為現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2413.wav",
        "text": "關鍵還有一個憲法法庭的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2414.wav",
        "text": "那院長對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2415.wav",
        "text": "我插播1分鐘就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2416.wav",
        "text": "我是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2417.wav",
        "text": "大家可以儘量理性來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2418.wav",
        "text": "儘量把時間空出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2419.wav",
        "text": "但是確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2420.wav",
        "text": "有窒礙難行的部分大家都可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2421.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為明天有憲法法庭的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2422.wav",
        "text": "那到5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2423.wav",
        "text": "我剛才徵詢黃總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2424.wav",
        "text": "是不是5點以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2425.wav",
        "text": "到晚上12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2426.wav",
        "text": "我們都來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2427.wav",
        "text": "明天晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2428.wav",
        "text": "都可以談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2429.wav",
        "text": "因為以前都協商到深更半夜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2430.wav",
        "text": "的沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2431.wav",
        "text": "明天早上先談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2432.wav",
        "text": "大概譬如10點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2433.wav",
        "text": "可以先來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2434.wav",
        "text": "因為憲法法庭是1點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2435.wav",
        "text": "請補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2436.wav",
        "text": "看還有多少案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2437.wav",
        "text": "來黃總召黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2438.wav",
        "text": "你在瞪什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2439.wav",
        "text": "我們在排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2440.wav",
        "text": "這些時間的工作上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2441.wav",
        "text": "我們都儘量配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2442.wav",
        "text": "院長這邊的裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2443.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2444.wav",
        "text": "的時候我們就儘量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2445.wav",
        "text": "不要去干擾到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2446.wav",
        "text": "我們本來就應該做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2447.wav",
        "text": "的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2448.wav",
        "text": "因此有協商的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2449.wav",
        "text": "要空出時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2450.wav",
        "text": "你說明天白天的正事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2451.wav",
        "text": "就是本來委員會或憲法法庭的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2452.wav",
        "text": "工作結束了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2453.wav",
        "text": "坐在這邊協商到晚上我都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2454.wav",
        "text": "我都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2455.wav",
        "text": "但我沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2456.wav",
        "text": "像柯建銘委員剛剛那樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2457.wav",
        "text": "發言模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2458.wav",
        "text": "他的工作習慣他不去委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2459.wav",
        "text": "所以他的時間都OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2460.wav",
        "text": "我們是習慣有要去委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2461.wav",
        "text": "做質詢的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2462.wav",
        "text": "對我來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2463.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2464.wav",
        "text": "你不能夠永遠都主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2465.wav",
        "text": "對你自己方便的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2466.wav",
        "text": "昨天下午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2467.wav",
        "text": "大家不是坐在這邊等你們嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2468.wav",
        "text": "你要解釋那是你個人的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2469.wav",
        "text": "昨天有召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2470.wav",
        "text": "我們尊重發言委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2471.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是拉回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2472.wav",
        "text": "就是需要協商這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2473.wav",
        "text": "我再強調一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2474.wav",
        "text": "我們都會盡力去做配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2475.wav",
        "text": "我剛發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2476.wav",
        "text": "我只是很清楚地跟院長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2477.wav",
        "text": "禮拜三禮拜四的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2478.wav",
        "text": "我們本來排定的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2479.wav",
        "text": "各自有什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2480.wav",
        "text": "所以可能會產生衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2481.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2482.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2483.wav",
        "text": "我會去協調黨團其他的幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2484.wav",
        "text": "看大家時間上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2485.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣彼此配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2486.wav",
        "text": "彼此安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2487.wav",
        "text": "星期四各個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2488.wav",
        "text": "都還是有重要的事情在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2489.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2490.wav",
        "text": "我等了非常久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2491.wav",
        "text": "終於反貪腐相關的法制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2492.wav",
        "text": "包括棄保潛逃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2493.wav",
        "text": "可以排上司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2494.wav",
        "text": "當然對我來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2495.wav",
        "text": "我會希望的是禮拜四的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2496.wav",
        "text": "法案終於排案了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2497.wav",
        "text": "嘛就能夠在委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2498.wav",
        "text": "好好地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2499.wav",
        "text": "好好地審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2500.wav",
        "text": "而禮拜三明天上午"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2501.wav",
        "text": "是專案報告沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2502.wav",
        "text": "明天上午專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2503.wav",
        "text": "我除了去司法及法制委員會質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2504.wav",
        "text": "我還要去外交及國防委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2505.wav",
        "text": "陳述意見的庭期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2506.wav",
        "text": "所以我也沒有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2507.wav",
        "text": "我因為這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2508.wav",
        "text": "就不願意來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2509.wav",
        "text": "因此剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2510.wav",
        "text": "中國國民黨黨團說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2511.wav",
        "text": "如果下午以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2512.wav",
        "text": "到晚上來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2513.wav",
        "text": "我都OK都願意配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2514.wav",
        "text": "我只是現實上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2515.wav",
        "text": "把我們在白天的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2516.wav",
        "text": "目前看到的工作時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2517.wav",
        "text": "跟院長做反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2518.wav",
        "text": "映最後院長你只要定了協商的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2519.wav",
        "text": "院長你應該很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2520.wav",
        "text": "你每一次定了協商的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2521.wav",
        "text": "我們每一次大概都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2522.wav",
        "text": "不管怎麼樣就是會協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2523.wav",
        "text": "有人來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2524.wav",
        "text": "謝謝思瑤委員你要補充發言是嗎儘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2525.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2526.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在這裡很和氣地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2527.wav",
        "text": "希望針對最後有限的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2528.wav",
        "text": "找出大家都可以同意的協商時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2529.wav",
        "text": "就這麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2530.wav",
        "text": "請黃國昌總召不要搞得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2531.wav",
        "text": "全世界你最忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2532.wav",
        "text": "立法院只有你最認真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2533.wav",
        "text": "然後你還指著柯總召不質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2534.wav",
        "text": "這種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2535.wav",
        "text": "我們都是司法及法制委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2536.wav",
        "text": "明天你要質詢吳思瑤也要質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2537.wav",
        "text": "我們的召委鍾佳濱也要質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2538.wav",
        "text": "我們只是在議案上怎麼去排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2539.wav",
        "text": "我們同時除了是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2540.wav",
        "text": "個別委員我們更是黨鞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2541.wav",
        "text": "所以在工作的priority"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2542.wav",
        "text": "裡頭應當有一個智慧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2543.wav",
        "text": "可以去做時間的分派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2544.wav",
        "text": "去指到別人怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2545.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這種都不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2546.wav",
        "text": "更重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2547.wav",
        "text": "我們大家可以評評理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2548.wav",
        "text": "每一次在這裡黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2549.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召永遠是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2550.wav",
        "text": "從頭坐到尾的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2551.wav",
        "text": "來來去去的人我就不要說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2552.wav",
        "text": "所以不要自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2553.wav",
        "text": "心中只有自己最偉大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2554.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣都不是一個好的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2555.wav",
        "text": "我也不想很有火氣的講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2556.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在很負責任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2557.wav",
        "text": "我們都在乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2558.wav",
        "text": "如果需要我們明天就早一點去登記發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2559.wav",
        "text": "10點回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2560.wav",
        "text": "或者是您剛剛說的也可以請不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2561.wav",
        "text": "幹部來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2562.wav",
        "text": "頂替分工嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2563.wav",
        "text": "我們很快速地有默契的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2564.wav",
        "text": "也許明天早上就結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2565.wav",
        "text": "如果不行明天我們憲法法庭回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2566.wav",
        "text": "再繼續我們願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2567.wav",
        "text": "只是到週四真的還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2568.wav",
        "text": "更多的議案可能時間上就更緊繃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2569.wav",
        "text": "大家心裡更有壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2570.wav",
        "text": "所以明天是合宜的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2571.wav",
        "text": "10點到12點可以先來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2572.wav",
        "text": "我嘗試性提一個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2573.wav",
        "text": "大家試試看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2574.wav",
        "text": "我們今天下午因為只有到3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2575.wav",
        "text": "3點之後有黨團幹部有事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2576.wav",
        "text": "因為你跟我溝通過意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2577.wav",
        "text": "所以我為什麼宣布2點到3點\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2578.wav",
        "text": "其實我是希望今天下午全部推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2579.wav",
        "text": "掉但有的黨團幹部有事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2580.wav",
        "text": "每個人都有不一樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2581.wav",
        "text": "我就不述名字了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2582.wav",
        "text": "要不然就這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2583.wav",
        "text": "我們禮拜四早上10點半開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2584.wav",
        "text": "然後一直繼續下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2585.wav",
        "text": "把所有該協商的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2586.wav",
        "text": "一氣呵成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2587.wav",
        "text": "明天司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2588.wav",
        "text": "跟下午的憲法法庭大家就專心去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2589.wav",
        "text": "我再重複一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2590.wav",
        "text": "萬一某一位黨團幹部有事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2591.wav",
        "text": "你就請其他黨團幹部來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2592.wav",
        "text": "代替一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2593.wav",
        "text": "我相信絕對都沒有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2594.wav",
        "text": "如果大家都同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2595.wav",
        "text": "我們就後天早上10點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2596.wav",
        "text": "因為第二天禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2597.wav",
        "text": "我們就要開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2598.wav",
        "text": "最後清倉法案清倉日開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2599.wav",
        "text": "就是星期四早上10點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2600.wav",
        "text": "一氣呵成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2601.wav",
        "text": "請大家把時間空出來好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2602.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝大家散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2603.wav",
        "text": "我們就一氣呵成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2604.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2605.wav",
        "text": "那我們下午2點見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2606.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2607.wav",
        "text": "關心本案的立法委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2608.wav",
        "text": "以及謝謝各行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2609.wav",
        "text": "官員和閣員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2610.wav",
        "text": "今天列席的各位閣員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2611.wav",
        "text": "第一位是內政部劉部長熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2612.wav",
        "text": "\n金管會彭主委熱情歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2613.wav",
        "text": "\n法務部黃常次歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2614.wav",
        "text": "\n行政院打擊詐欺辦公室林諮議歡迎您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2615.wav",
        "text": "\n司法院黃副秘書長歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2616.wav",
        "text": "\n國家通訊傳播委員會黃主任秘書歡迎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2617.wav",
        "text": "\n向黨團幹部還有各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2618.wav",
        "text": "我們繼續進行黨團協商主要是內政委員會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2619.wav",
        "text": "併案審查行政院函請審議台灣民眾黨黨團及委員陳亭妃等16人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2620.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具詐欺犯罪危害防制條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2621.wav",
        "text": "\n以及經本院逕付二讀與相關提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2622.wav",
        "text": "詐欺犯罪危害防制條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2623.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會吳召集委員琪銘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2624.wav",
        "text": "已於6月28日先行召集第1次協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2625.wav",
        "text": "當天協商的結果為保留第8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2626.wav",
        "text": "第十一條第十二條及第十三條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2627.wav",
        "text": "為了節省各位黨團代表寶貴的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2628.wav",
        "text": "我們集中先討論這4條的焦點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2629.wav",
        "text": "因此建議各位我們先行討論上述保留的這4條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2630.wav",
        "text": "如果大家對已經有共識的條文還有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2631.wav",
        "text": "我們回過頭來再繼續討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2632.wav",
        "text": "請問各位黨團幹部及各位委員有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2633.wav",
        "text": "我們今天還有再提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2634.wav",
        "text": "我們先把這個保留條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2635.wav",
        "text": "保留的條文現在金管會彭主委也到場了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2636.wav",
        "text": "我是不是可以唸一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2637.wav",
        "text": "有王美惠委員蘇巧慧委員蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2638.wav",
        "text": "就是王美惠委員許宇甄委員羅廷瑋委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2639.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧委員蔡易餘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2640.wav",
        "text": "分別所擬詐欺犯罪危害防制條例草案等5案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2641.wav",
        "text": "從委員會抽出逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2642.wav",
        "text": "與相關議案併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2643.wav",
        "text": "我們一併討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2644.wav",
        "text": "但我建議先討論這4條有保留的好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2645.wav",
        "text": "因為今天彭主委也來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2646.wav",
        "text": "我們就這4條討論完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2647.wav",
        "text": "如果一切順利我們就往下推進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2648.wav",
        "text": "再有意見我們回頭再說好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2649.wav",
        "text": "好那我們先請先請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2650.wav",
        "text": "許宇甄委員許宇甄委員保留條文是你提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2651.wav",
        "text": "請先提出你的寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2652.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長還有各位委員各位官員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2653.wav",
        "text": "針對有關詐欺犯罪危害防制條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2654.wav",
        "text": "當然在這邊要謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2655.wav",
        "text": "當天在委員會我們在審的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2656.wav",
        "text": "院長也特別到我們委員會關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2657.wav",
        "text": "本來院版的詐欺犯罪危害防制條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2658.wav",
        "text": "我們也有請教行政院打詐辦公室主任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2659.wav",
        "text": "他的回復是NFT沒有主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2660.wav",
        "text": "是因為本席提出之後才知道有這個漏洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2661.wav",
        "text": "最近被揭露的ACE王牌交易所的詐騙案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2662.wav",
        "text": "與三立集團有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2663.wav",
        "text": "他們就是利用虛擬貨幣和NFT進行詐騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2664.wav",
        "text": "非法吸金的金額高達二十多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2665.wav",
        "text": "他們通過登記在人頭公司的地址進行洗錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2666.wav",
        "text": "該地址也跟三立集團在同一棟大樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2667.wav",
        "text": "這個也顯示NFT如果不納管的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2668.wav",
        "text": "漏洞可能沒有辦法補起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2669.wav",
        "text": "詐騙集團透過成立假的媒體公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2670.wav",
        "text": "宣傳NFT跟CHAEBOL平台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2671.wav",
        "text": "台最令人無法接受的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2672.wav",
        "text": "中央社還配合登載新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2673.wav",
        "text": "這個假的媒體公司所發出的新聞內容幾乎一模一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2674.wav",
        "text": "這個詐騙模式也與2023年遭香港證監會警告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2675.wav",
        "text": "JPEX詐欺案類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2676.wav",
        "text": "都是採取龐氏騙局的做法來吸金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2677.wav",
        "text": "當時臺灣一些區塊鏈的媒體和網紅也都參與了JPEX的宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2678.wav",
        "text": "所以也獲得了大量的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2679.wav",
        "text": "\n從這個案例我們可以知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2680.wav",
        "text": "因為詐騙集團知道臺灣目前NFT無人監管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2681.wav",
        "text": "行政院也沒有部會是主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2682.wav",
        "text": "所以詐騙集團就肆無忌憚地進行NFT的詐騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2683.wav",
        "text": "因為我們目前的法律還沒跟上這個技術發展的腳步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2684.wav",
        "text": "在我的要求之下已經首次指定金管會做為管理機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2685.wav",
        "text": "但主要內容是為了防範洗錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2686.wav",
        "text": "當然這個本身是值得肯定啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2687.wav",
        "text": "但是金管會和數發部來溝通的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2688.wav",
        "text": "所以就認為這個部分應該要有一個比較從寬的認定方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2689.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為既然金管會要負責也能夠好好地負起這個責任\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2690.wav",
        "text": "\n根據金管會之前開過的一次會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2691.wav",
        "text": "會議結論對於NFT的管理是強調具有金融投資和支付性質的NFT才會受到管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2692.wav",
        "text": "金管會是認為可以用個案來管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2693.wav",
        "text": "而且有太多法律的不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2694.wav",
        "text": "也希望可以強調一下什麼叫做金融投資什麼叫做支付性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2695.wav",
        "text": "比如說我舉個例子來說好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2696.wav",
        "text": "它現在可能只是10個泰達幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2697.wav",
        "text": "我預期它後來也許會漲成50個泰達幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2698.wav",
        "text": "那請問一下這個到底叫做金融投資還是藝術收藏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2699.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我想可能也很難去認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2700.wav",
        "text": "透過媒體炒作NFT的價值來銷售"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2701.wav",
        "text": "對於這種龐氏騙局的做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2702.wav",
        "text": "金管會到底認為這是金融投資還是支付性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2703.wav",
        "text": "還有就是這個部分如果用個案的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2704.wav",
        "text": "是不是會造成行政部門有過大的裁量權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2705.wav",
        "text": "從而導致權力的濫用\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2706.wav",
        "text": "所以在這邊我們需要行政部門針對以上的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2707.wav",
        "text": "給予明確的解釋和回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2708.wav",
        "text": "而是真正能夠好好地把它定義清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2709.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2710.wav",
        "text": "謝謝許宇甄委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2711.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來哪一位委員要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2712.wav",
        "text": "請金管會回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2713.wav",
        "text": "請金管會彭主委就許宇甄委員的問題做個答復謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2714.wav",
        "text": "在座各位先進大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2715.wav",
        "text": "針對原來的條文並沒有特別羅列NFT"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2716.wav",
        "text": "經過我們再協調的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2717.wav",
        "text": "我們是有發現NFT確實有獨特的數據資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2718.wav",
        "text": "它的憑證和認證不能互換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2719.wav",
        "text": "可能有被不法分子做為詐騙的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2720.wav",
        "text": "關於這點的分工行政院已在113年6月12日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2721.wav",
        "text": "日會同數發部開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2722.wav",
        "text": "認為本會依國際防制洗錢組織（FATF）的指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2723.wav",
        "text": "納管了具金融投資或支付性質的NFT"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2724.wav",
        "text": "並擔任主管機關這部分剛剛許宇甄委員也已經做過說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2725.wav",
        "text": "了行政院在做過協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2726.wav",
        "text": "就是對金融投資或支付性質NFT進行納管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2727.wav",
        "text": "希望就把NFT明定在我們的立法說明裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2728.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在立法說明裡面已經修正了把這個名詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2729.wav",
        "text": "增列為鑑於擁有獨特數據資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2730.wav",
        "text": "）亦有可能進行不法交易之用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2731.wav",
        "text": "依國際防制洗錢金融行動工作組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2732.wav",
        "text": "其運用於金融投資或支付用途時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2733.wav",
        "text": "亦屬於前揭虛擬資產之範疇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2734.wav",
        "text": "用說明的方式去包含在原來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2735.wav",
        "text": "一併納管這個就可以滿足剛才提到把NFT納管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2736.wav",
        "text": "到底什麼叫做具有金融投資或是支付性質的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2737.wav",
        "text": "我們就遵照國際防制洗錢金融行動工作組織（FATF"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2738.wav",
        "text": "）因為這個東西國際還在演化中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2739.wav",
        "text": "我們就尊重根據他們的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2740.wav",
        "text": "而且這也明確我們在數發部這邊應該都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2741.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為如果在這樣的架構之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2742.wav",
        "text": "我們就完全遵照國際組織的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2743.wav",
        "text": "來進行NFT的定義跟納管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2744.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分應該就可以有效的做到這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2745.wav",
        "text": "也明確地在法條上面加以說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2746.wav",
        "text": "我們希望如果這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2747.wav",
        "text": "我們可以支持原來院版的提案以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2748.wav",
        "text": "謝謝彭主委的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2749.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2750.wav",
        "text": "你後面有說明可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2751.wav",
        "text": "第2條的立法說明裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2752.wav",
        "text": "主要是保留的條文是剛才提到的那幾條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2753.wav",
        "text": "其實最重要是在於那個裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2754.wav",
        "text": "因為如果這邊定義清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2755.wav",
        "text": "後面的條文就全部都已經可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2756.wav",
        "text": "是不是立法說明可以發給大家看一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2757.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就發下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2758.wav",
        "text": "各位委員如果要發言的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2759.wav",
        "text": "我們先請許宇甄委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2760.wav",
        "text": "因為這是你提出的保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2761.wav",
        "text": "針對金管會彭主委的補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2762.wav",
        "text": "其他委員要發言的話請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2763.wav",
        "text": "見請因為我們時間比較寶貴一點不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2764.wav",
        "text": "好請問一下除了這個立法說明之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2765.wav",
        "text": "因為那時候還有聽到修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2766.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2767.wav",
        "text": "好我這邊一併報告一下附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2768.wav",
        "text": "所以這次的協商除了我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2769.wav",
        "text": "增訂各位委員剛剛拿到這一份有紅字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2770.wav",
        "text": "另外還有新增一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2771.wav",
        "text": "好針對這個部分就是希望金管會能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2772.wav",
        "text": "在立法說明之後還有附帶決議之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2773.wav",
        "text": "能夠在六個月之內提出相關的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2774.wav",
        "text": "許宇甄委員要求金管會在六個月之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2775.wav",
        "text": "報告沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2776.wav",
        "text": "好的好的請照辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2777.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議也印到各位委員手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2778.wav",
        "text": "請黃國昌總召請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2779.wav",
        "text": "我只有一個問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2780.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌總召請發言請大家保持沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2781.wav",
        "text": "我只是在等主委沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2782.wav",
        "text": "因為我看主委手忙腳亂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2783.wav",
        "text": "我先給你一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2784.wav",
        "text": "那個加在立法理由裡面說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2785.wav",
        "text": "主要是針對NFT要納管這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2786.wav",
        "text": "我們是支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2787.wav",
        "text": "因為現實上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2788.wav",
        "text": "那不是有可能成為詐騙的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2789.wav",
        "text": "它現實上已經成為詐騙的工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2790.wav",
        "text": "只不過說因為我們現在第3款的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2791.wav",
        "text": "提供虛擬資產服務的事業或人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2792.wav",
        "text": "你們主要是在這邊加上立法理由上面的定義嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2793.wav",
        "text": "\n我只有一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2794.wav",
        "text": "如果在這個專法裡面針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2795.wav",
        "text": "因為專法裡面在作定義的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2796.wav",
        "text": "又把它refer到洗防法第5條第4款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2797.wav",
        "text": "款所以在洗防法第5條第4款的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2798.wav",
        "text": "就立法理由的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2799.wav",
        "text": "是不是要隨同一併把它增加上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2800.wav",
        "text": "因為你是從這個專法指向洗防法的定義嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2801.wav",
        "text": "所以可能在洗防法的那個部分要配同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2802.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部各位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2803.wav",
        "text": "各位官員我們現在先聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2804.wav",
        "text": "我們協商的結果請大家聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2805.wav",
        "text": "(一)照行政院提案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2806.wav",
        "text": "照協商條文通過第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2807.wav",
        "text": "第44條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2808.wav",
        "text": "第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2809.wav",
        "text": "保留條文第8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2810.wav",
        "text": "第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2811.wav",
        "text": "第十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2812.wav",
        "text": "第十三條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2813.wav",
        "text": "照行政院版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2814.wav",
        "text": "通過附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2815.wav",
        "text": "2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2816.wav",
        "text": "增加1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2817.wav",
        "text": "變3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2818.wav",
        "text": "其餘均照審查會審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2819.wav",
        "text": "但第24"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2820.wav",
        "text": "條有3個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2821.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2822.wav",
        "text": "回頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2823.wav",
        "text": "條文條次引述條文之文字及相關法制用語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2824.wav",
        "text": "\n這樣可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2825.wav",
        "text": "些都在你們手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2826.wav",
        "text": "只有改幾個字而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2827.wav",
        "text": "還有要修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2828.wav",
        "text": "現在在討論這三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2829.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2830.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們就比較快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2831.wav",
        "text": "前面我們就不要再回頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2832.wav",
        "text": "了我們就討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2833.wav",
        "text": "44條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2834.wav",
        "text": "修正條文好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2835.wav",
        "text": "現在民主進步黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2836.wav",
        "text": "提出第24條的修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2837.wav",
        "text": "我們請民主進步黨提案的黨團發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2838.wav",
        "text": "我們提出第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2839.wav",
        "text": "還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2840.wav",
        "text": "第25條2個修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2841.wav",
        "text": "我想這個修正案的意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2842.wav",
        "text": "有關於行政院院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2843.wav",
        "text": "有稍微被調整過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2844.wav",
        "text": "但是我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2845.wav",
        "text": "這個罰則的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2846.wav",
        "text": "還是回到行政院院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2847.wav",
        "text": "當初第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2848.wav",
        "text": "二十萬到兩百萬被改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2849.wav",
        "text": "我們經過內部溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2850.wav",
        "text": "還是回到行政院的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2851.wav",
        "text": "\n有關於一千萬要改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2852.wav",
        "text": "這個我們還是建議回到行政院院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2853.wav",
        "text": "但是有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2854.wav",
        "text": "那應該是許宇甄委員提的還是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2855.wav",
        "text": "我不知道是誰提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2856.wav",
        "text": "必要時得通知頻譜主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2857.wav",
        "text": "核配頻率這個非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2858.wav",
        "text": "這個等一下請NCC說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2859.wav",
        "text": "因為NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2860.wav",
        "text": "有一些不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2861.wav",
        "text": "希望回到行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2862.wav",
        "text": "但是第25條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2863.wav",
        "text": "有一個明知那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2864.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2865.wav",
        "text": "是有關於核配頻率的禁止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2866.wav",
        "text": "嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2867.wav",
        "text": "這個部分能夠不要列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2868.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2869.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2870.wav",
        "text": "接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2871.wav",
        "text": "哪一位委員同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2872.wav",
        "text": "要針對第24條第25條修正表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2873.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2874.wav",
        "text": "各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2875.wav",
        "text": "還有我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2876.wav",
        "text": "我們審查會通過的條文就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2877.wav",
        "text": "現在民進黨柯總召又說要回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2878.wav",
        "text": "行政院條文的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2879.wav",
        "text": "這中間是有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2880.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2881.wav",
        "text": "審查會就通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2882.wav",
        "text": "是不是有什麼窒礙難行的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2883.wav",
        "text": "是不是請行政院再提出說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2884.wav",
        "text": "我們大家再來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2885.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2886.wav",
        "text": "有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2887.wav",
        "text": "的必要時得通知頻率主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2888.wav",
        "text": "禁止其核配頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2889.wav",
        "text": "我想這個都是非常好的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2890.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2891.wav",
        "text": "這個到底有何窒礙難行之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2892.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘委員的補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2893.wav",
        "text": "接下來還有哪位委員要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2894.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2895.wav",
        "text": "NCC代表報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2896.wav",
        "text": "首先在第24條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2897.wav",
        "text": "我記得是因為有委員覺得這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2898.wav",
        "text": "所以希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2899.wav",
        "text": "就它的上限部分予以加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2900.wav",
        "text": "其實在電管法裡面也有同樣的事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2901.wav",
        "text": "只不過在這邊所適用的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2902.wav",
        "text": "是屬於沒有使用資源的這些業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2903.wav",
        "text": "在打詐條例這邊做規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2904.wav",
        "text": "的話按理說應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2905.wav",
        "text": "這邊會因為有不同的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2906.wav",
        "text": "所以建議是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2907.wav",
        "text": "如同黨團這邊所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2908.wav",
        "text": "能夠維持與電管法一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2909.wav",
        "text": "最後一項裡面所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2910.wav",
        "text": "並得通知頻率主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2911.wav",
        "text": "禁止其核配頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2912.wav",
        "text": "上一次我也大概有報告過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2913.wav",
        "text": "上次是因為經過協商的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2914.wav",
        "text": "加上必要時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2915.wav",
        "text": "事實上是經過標售所取得的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2916.wav",
        "text": "所取得的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2917.wav",
        "text": "當作處罰手段的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2918.wav",
        "text": "但這裡面的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2919.wav",
        "text": "它是一個處罰的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2920.wav",
        "text": "禁止核配頻率或是不使用頻率的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2921.wav",
        "text": "可能它整個電信網路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2922.wav",
        "text": "會當掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2923.wav",
        "text": "那個結果其實是很嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2924.wav",
        "text": "對國民的通信權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2925.wav",
        "text": "所以上次才加上必要時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2926.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2927.wav",
        "text": "能夠把它拿掉的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2928.wav",
        "text": "會比較符合現在我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2929.wav",
        "text": "們一般的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2930.wav",
        "text": "不會把禁止核配頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2931.wav",
        "text": "當作處罰手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2932.wav",
        "text": "這個頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2933.wav",
        "text": "經由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2934.wav",
        "text": "（經由人家花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2935.wav",
        "text": "了幾千億的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2936.wav",
        "text": "拿來當作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2937.wav",
        "text": "事實上並不適當"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2938.wav",
        "text": "\n至於在第25條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2939.wav",
        "text": "這個處罰的額度跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2940.wav",
        "text": "前面的報告一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2941.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠回到電信管理法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2942.wav",
        "text": "第1項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2943.wav",
        "text": "第2款加上明知"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2944.wav",
        "text": "可能有點不太妥當"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2945.wav",
        "text": "故意才能夠處罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2946.wav",
        "text": "這個條文在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2947.wav",
        "text": "移轉給別人使用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2948.wav",
        "text": "照我們這邊的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2949.wav",
        "text": "你要趕快"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2950.wav",
        "text": "假設你不來辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2951.wav",
        "text": "異動登記的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2952.wav",
        "text": "甲實際上使用手機"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2953.wav",
        "text": "乙的名義"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2954.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2955.wav",
        "text": "我們是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2956.wav",
        "text": "發生這個現象的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2957.wav",
        "text": "要限制他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2958.wav",
        "text": "這是在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2959.wav",
        "text": "打詐條例裡面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2960.wav",
        "text": "很重要的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2961.wav",
        "text": "僅限於故意的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2962.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2963.wav",
        "text": "大概並不是很適當"
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        "text": "畢竟"
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        "text": "由主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2966.wav",
        "text": "這些違規的人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2967.wav",
        "text": "有實務上的困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2968.wav",
        "text": "大概也有業者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2969.wav",
        "text": "是不是它很容易"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2970.wav",
        "text": "就被處罰到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2971.wav",
        "text": "其實在行政罰法裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2972.wav",
        "text": "不能夠證明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2973.wav",
        "text": "它有故意過失的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2974.wav",
        "text": "倒也不會說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2975.wav",
        "text": "因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2976.wav",
        "text": "它一個過失"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2977.wav",
        "text": "沒有登記到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2978.wav",
        "text": "我們就會處罰"
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        "text": "我想"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2980.wav",
        "text": "可能在明知這件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2981.wav",
        "text": "我稍微有點保留"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2982.wav",
        "text": "其他部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2983.wav",
        "text": "還是要回歸行政院的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2984.wav",
        "text": "會比較妥當"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2985.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2986.wav",
        "text": "兩邊的意見"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2987.wav",
        "text": "差異很大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2988.wav",
        "text": "秘書的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2989.wav",
        "text": "接下來還有哪一位委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2990.wav",
        "text": "要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2991.wav",
        "text": "許宇甄委員請繼續"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2992.wav",
        "text": "針對剛剛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2993.wav",
        "text": "NCC這邊提到的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2994.wav",
        "text": "很像在幫業者說話"
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        "text": "而不是站在被詐騙的人的立場"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2996.wav",
        "text": "要限制它的頻譜"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2997.wav",
        "text": "就是因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/2998.wav",
        "text": "現在詐騙這麼猖獗"
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        "text": "我想電信單位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3000.wav",
        "text": "可能要負很大的責任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3001.wav",
        "text": "我們這樣子一個條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3002.wav",
        "text": "列下去"
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        "text": "主要是要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3004.wav",
        "text": "讓他們知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3005.wav",
        "text": "針對這個部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3006.wav",
        "text": "你們可能要更謹慎地去面對"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3007.wav",
        "text": "而不能說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3008.wav",
        "text": "收錢辦事"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3009.wav",
        "text": "所以針對詐騙"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3010.wav",
        "text": "跟我無關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3011.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該要站在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3012.wav",
        "text": "被詐騙人的立場來去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3013.wav",
        "text": "考量"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3014.wav",
        "text": "謝謝許宇甄委員的補充"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3015.wav",
        "text": "接下來哪位委員要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3016.wav",
        "text": "發言吳思瑤委員請發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3017.wav",
        "text": "還是要請主秘再說明一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3018.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛對於罰則"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3019.wav",
        "text": "核配頻率的部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3020.wav",
        "text": "都是希望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3021.wav",
        "text": "回到電管法的規範"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3022.wav",
        "text": "而且儘可能一致"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3023.wav",
        "text": "所以它就會比較均衡"
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        "text": "衡平的比例原則"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3025.wav",
        "text": "簡單來講"
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        "text": "基本上這個東西"
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        "text": "來我們當然也覺得"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3028.wav",
        "text": "是可以支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3029.wav",
        "text": "剛剛許宇甄委員提到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3030.wav",
        "text": "這個最後一項的必要時"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3031.wav",
        "text": "如果就我的理解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3032.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛很清楚地說到"
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        "text": "過去從來沒有把"
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        "text": "這種經過一定的"
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        "text": "核配頻率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3036.wav",
        "text": "來作為任何的處罰手段"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3037.wav",
        "text": "這也是回到一個"
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        "text": "比例原則"
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        "text": "有沒有過當的去處罰"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3040.wav",
        "text": "當然你"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3041.wav",
        "text": "是不是也試圖"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3042.wav",
        "text": "再說服"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3043.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3044.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3045.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣子的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3046.wav",
        "text": "犯罪行為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3047.wav",
        "text": "最重你會用到這個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3048.wav",
        "text": "還是從來都沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3049.wav",
        "text": "如果都沒有的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3050.wav",
        "text": "那當然"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3051.wav",
        "text": "對於詐騙犯"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3052.wav",
        "text": "來用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3053.wav",
        "text": "有那個不衡平"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3054.wav",
        "text": "或是你開了一個先例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3055.wav",
        "text": "當然民進黨是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3056.wav",
        "text": "同意你的說法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3057.wav",
        "text": "但是你可能"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3058.wav",
        "text": "在這個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3059.wav",
        "text": "還要再進一步地"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3060.wav",
        "text": "來說服"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3061.wav",
        "text": "委員們"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3062.wav",
        "text": "是的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3063.wav",
        "text": "這樣的考量"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3064.wav",
        "text": "其實就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3065.wav",
        "text": "如同委員所說的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3066.wav",
        "text": "這個確實是一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3067.wav",
        "text": "打詐這件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3068.wav",
        "text": "固然很重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3069.wav",
        "text": "我想"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3070.wav",
        "text": "大概還不至於到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3071.wav",
        "text": "畢竟他們三家公司"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3072.wav",
        "text": "是這麼大的公司"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3073.wav",
        "text": "尤其是能夠來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3074.wav",
        "text": "開頻率的公司"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3075.wav",
        "text": "我記得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3076.wav",
        "text": "院長那時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3077.wav",
        "text": "我也有稍微"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3078.wav",
        "text": "報告一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3079.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3080.wav",
        "text": "一個這麼大的事業"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3081.wav",
        "text": "不配合打詐"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3082.wav",
        "text": "一直到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3083.wav",
        "text": "最後我要用到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3084.wav",
        "text": "因為這裡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3085.wav",
        "text": "還不是只有核配頻率"
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        "text": "其實是使用頻率"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3087.wav",
        "text": "到那個結果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3088.wav",
        "text": "過去還真的沒有"
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        "text": "用禁止來標頻率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3090.wav",
        "text": "這樣當作手段的"
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        "text": "我是覺得"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3092.wav",
        "text": "其實就是一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3093.wav",
        "text": "大概還沒有必要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3094.wav",
        "text": "用到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3095.wav",
        "text": "這麼嚴重的一個手段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3096.wav",
        "text": "我補一句話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3097.wav",
        "text": "其實有一個關鍵"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3098.wav",
        "text": "是您剛剛講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3099.wav",
        "text": "會影響到其他使用者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3100.wav",
        "text": "的權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3101.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3102.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3103.wav",
        "text": "我們現在請鍾佳濱委員請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3104.wav",
        "text": "我想追問主"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3105.wav",
        "text": "主秘我們先看這個條文"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3106.wav",
        "text": "在前一項它"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3107.wav",
        "text": "它是訂了二千萬以下的罰鍰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3108.wav",
        "text": "這是一個行政處分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3109.wav",
        "text": "剛剛主秘所說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3110.wav",
        "text": "因為這個所謂的"
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        "text": "頻率主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3112.wav",
        "text": "禁止其核配之頻率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3113.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3114.wav",
        "text": "行動業者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3115.wav",
        "text": "所使用的頻率"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3116.wav",
        "text": "是它"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3117.wav",
        "text": "透過標售方式取得的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3118.wav",
        "text": "可能是上百萬個客戶"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3119.wav",
        "text": "我們對它的行政處分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3120.wav",
        "text": "有兩個部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3121.wav",
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3122.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3123.wav",
        "text": "這個頻譜在它取得之後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3124.wav",
        "text": "算是它標售後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3125.wav",
        "text": "得到的財產"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3126.wav",
        "text": "譬如說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3127.wav",
        "text": "你拿你買的車"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3128.wav",
        "text": "去運送一個贓物"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3129.wav",
        "text": "那在行政處分上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3130.wav",
        "text": "我們可以把這個車子"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3131.wav",
        "text": "沒入"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3132.wav",
        "text": "還是查扣"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3133.wav",
        "text": "還是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3134.wav",
        "text": "用什麼樣的處分行為"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3135.wav",
        "text": "它在法律上的強度"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3136.wav",
        "text": "是不是在"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3137.wav",
        "text": "行政處分之下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3138.wav",
        "text": "的範疇可以做的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3139.wav",
        "text": "所謂的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3140.wav",
        "text": "禁止其核配之頻率"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3141.wav",
        "text": "因為目前是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3142.wav",
        "text": "業者疏於管理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3143.wav",
        "text": "讓人家去用來詐騙"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3144.wav",
        "text": "這樣的情況之下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3145.wav",
        "text": "我們給它的處分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3146.wav",
        "text": "大概是禁止其使用啦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3147.wav",
        "text": "禁止使用它"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3148.wav",
        "text": "所標售到的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3149.wav",
        "text": "頻譜的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3150.wav",
        "text": "內容之後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3151.wav",
        "text": "上百萬客戶"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3152.wav",
        "text": "都會當機嘛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3153.wav",
        "text": "就不能使用了嘛"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3154.wav",
        "text": "那這個狀況"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3155.wav",
        "text": "就你剛剛說的是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3156.wav",
        "text": "手段跟目的上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3157.wav",
        "text": "是否衡平啦"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3158.wav",
        "text": "所以我們為了處分它"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3159.wav",
        "text": "疏於管理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3160.wav",
        "text": "讓詐騙業者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3161.wav",
        "text": "使用它的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3162.wav",
        "text": "號碼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3163.wav",
        "text": "我們卻"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3164.wav",
        "text": "讓它買來的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3165.wav",
        "text": "頻率"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3166.wav",
        "text": "不能用來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3167.wav",
        "text": "服務上百萬的客戶"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3168.wav",
        "text": "比例上"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3169.wav",
        "text": "是不是衡平"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3170.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼樣可以達到許委員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3171.wav",
        "text": "所要求的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3172.wav",
        "text": "嚴懲詐欺的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3173.wav",
        "text": "作法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3174.wav",
        "text": "剛剛前面一個問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3175.wav",
        "text": "行政處分上"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3176.wav",
        "text": "的強度上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3177.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3178.wav",
        "text": "等同"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3179.wav",
        "text": "停止"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3180.wav",
        "text": "人民他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3181.wav",
        "text": "所購買的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3182.wav",
        "text": "財產使用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3183.wav",
        "text": "這兩個請說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3184.wav",
        "text": "好請NCC"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3185.wav",
        "text": "因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3186.wav",
        "text": "最主要的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3187.wav",
        "text": "我覺得用沒入"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3188.wav",
        "text": "卡車"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3189.wav",
        "text": "比喻"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3190.wav",
        "text": "大概不是很恰當"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3191.wav",
        "text": "你看這個條文裡面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3192.wav",
        "text": "其實最重要在"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3193.wav",
        "text": "它可以處1"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3194.wav",
        "text": "00萬到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3195.wav",
        "text": "如果假設"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3196.wav",
        "text": "按照行政院的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3197.wav",
        "text": "可以連續處罰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3198.wav",
        "text": "我想"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3199.wav",
        "text": "大概還沒有企業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3200.wav",
        "text": "會因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3201.wav",
        "text": "配合詐團"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3202.wav",
        "text": "願意被連續"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3203.wav",
        "text": "那個比例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3204.wav",
        "text": "已經是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3205.wav",
        "text": "授予行政機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3206.wav",
        "text": "一個很大的權限"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3207.wav",
        "text": "而且我可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3208.wav",
        "text": "連續處罰"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3209.wav",
        "text": "大概還沒有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3210.wav",
        "text": "詐欺能夠有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3211.wav",
        "text": "這麼高的收益"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3212.wav",
        "text": "假設真的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3213.wav",
        "text": "要去禁止"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3214.wav",
        "text": "它的使用頻率的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3215.wav",
        "text": "那它所影響的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3216.wav",
        "text": "其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3217.wav",
        "text": "不只是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3218.wav",
        "text": "百萬用戶"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3219.wav",
        "text": "假設只有一家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3220.wav",
        "text": "還不只這"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3221.wav",
        "text": "幾百萬家用戶"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3222.wav",
        "text": "因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3223.wav",
        "text": "連續產生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3224.wav",
        "text": "一些影響"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3225.wav",
        "text": "會非常非常嚴重"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3226.wav",
        "text": "將來我們在發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3227.wav",
        "text": "物聯網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3228.wav",
        "text": "這些連接裝置"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3229.wav",
        "text": "的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3230.wav",
        "text": "甚至會影響到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3231.wav",
        "text": "人命的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3232.wav",
        "text": "所以我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3233.wav",
        "text": "大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3234.wav",
        "text": "授予行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3235.wav",
        "text": "這麼大的一個權限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3236.wav",
        "text": "來禁止它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3237.wav",
        "text": "核配頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3238.wav",
        "text": "我想"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3239.wav",
        "text": "我們真的要取得一個平衡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3240.wav",
        "text": "可以連續處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3241.wav",
        "text": "因為兩個都舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3242.wav",
        "text": "我現在在考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3243.wav",
        "text": "首席副書記長請先發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3244.wav",
        "text": "柯建銘總召請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3245.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3246.wav",
        "text": "我想我們還是會堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3247.wav",
        "text": "通過的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3248.wav",
        "text": "維持200萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3249.wav",
        "text": "把審查會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3250.wav",
        "text": "我想這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3251.wav",
        "text": "聽起來就很怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3252.wav",
        "text": "審查會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3253.wav",
        "text": "就是當時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3254.wav",
        "text": "應該也做過很多討論"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3255.wav",
        "text": "如果你因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3256.wav",
        "text": "電管法的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3257.wav",
        "text": "就對打詐"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3258.wav",
        "text": "你沒有決心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3259.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3260.wav",
        "text": "沒有凸顯我們的決心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3261.wav",
        "text": "既然要打詐"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3262.wav",
        "text": "我們就把決心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3263.wav",
        "text": "嘛在立法上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3264.wav",
        "text": "我們就從嚴嘛"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3265.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3266.wav",
        "text": "就維持20"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3267.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個是很OK的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3268.wav",
        "text": "另外就是說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3269.wav",
        "text": "剛剛一直提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3270.wav",
        "text": "許宇甄委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3271.wav",
        "text": "加上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3272.wav",
        "text": "必要時得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3273.wav",
        "text": "禁止它的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3274.wav",
        "text": "核配頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3275.wav",
        "text": "這個規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3276.wav",
        "text": "我想這也是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3277.wav",
        "text": "顯示我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3278.wav",
        "text": "立法者的決心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3279.wav",
        "text": "除了剛才講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3280.wav",
        "text": "可以連續罰以外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3281.wav",
        "text": "但是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3282.wav",
        "text": "我們在必要時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3283.wav",
        "text": "用最嚴厲的手段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3284.wav",
        "text": "如果你一直再犯"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3285.wav",
        "text": "講不會聽"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3286.wav",
        "text": "那我就禁止你"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3287.wav",
        "text": "這個頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3288.wav",
        "text": "去使用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3289.wav",
        "text": "我想這跟它"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3290.wav",
        "text": "什麼標不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3291.wav",
        "text": "標到沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3292.wav",
        "text": "這就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3293.wav",
        "text": "我們政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3294.wav",
        "text": "打詐的一個決心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3295.wav",
        "text": "所以我是認為說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3296.wav",
        "text": "而且是必要時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3297.wav",
        "text": "你一直罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3298.wav",
        "text": "罰不聽的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3299.wav",
        "text": "是最後的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3300.wav",
        "text": "一定要有這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3301.wav",
        "text": "最後的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3302.wav",
        "text": "罰錢它不怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3303.wav",
        "text": "而且這是必要時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3304.wav",
        "text": "有授予你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3305.wav",
        "text": "裁量的一個餘地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3306.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3307.wav",
        "text": "必要手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3308.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3309.wav",
        "text": "這個也是要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3310.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3311.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3312.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林思銘委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3313.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3314.wav",
        "text": "我們要看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3315.wav",
        "text": "條所規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3316.wav",
        "text": "的比如說KYC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3317.wav",
        "text": "啦比如說漫遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3318.wav",
        "text": "啦那些都是這些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3319.wav",
        "text": "要把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3320.wav",
        "text": "電信公司的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3321.wav",
        "text": "必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3322.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來的科技偵查法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3323.wav",
        "text": "也不必了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3324.wav",
        "text": "最後手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3325.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3326.wav",
        "text": "我們要打詐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3327.wav",
        "text": "所以我們把所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3328.wav",
        "text": "的這個是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3329.wav",
        "text": "因為現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3330.wav",
        "text": "二類電信也沒人管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3331.wav",
        "text": "然後要重複要談到這個問題的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3332.wav",
        "text": "要談到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3333.wav",
        "text": "電信管理法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3334.wav",
        "text": "二類電信沒有管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3335.wav",
        "text": "所以現在到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3336.wav",
        "text": "誰在管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3337.wav",
        "text": "莓卡的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3338.wav",
        "text": "所以很多的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3339.wav",
        "text": "把電信公司關起來就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3340.wav",
        "text": "政府要做的事情還很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3341.wav",
        "text": "哪有這麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3342.wav",
        "text": "簡單的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3343.wav",
        "text": "把它推過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3344.wav",
        "text": "它是經過標售的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3345.wav",
        "text": "所以這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3346.wav",
        "text": "要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3347.wav",
        "text": "所有來申請客戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3348.wav",
        "text": "的KYC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3349.wav",
        "text": "他出國以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3350.wav",
        "text": "把它停起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3351.wav",
        "text": "因為有國際電信規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3352.wav",
        "text": "我們不一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3353.wav",
        "text": "想怎麼做就怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3354.wav",
        "text": "所以要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3355.wav",
        "text": "這個這是一個很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3356.wav",
        "text": "到就算電信公司的把它關起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3357.wav",
        "text": "這個不是這樣搞的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3358.wav",
        "text": "人家這個特許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3359.wav",
        "text": "用上千億標來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3360.wav",
        "text": "將來整個AI網路世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3361.wav",
        "text": "必要時才會使用這個手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3362.wav",
        "text": "這個東西什麼叫必要時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3363.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3364.wav",
        "text": "假如這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3365.wav",
        "text": "法都不必談了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3366.wav",
        "text": "都拿電信公司去處理就好關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3367.wav",
        "text": "了不是這樣的搞法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3368.wav",
        "text": "這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3369.wav",
        "text": "的立法意旨是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3370.wav",
        "text": "你要達到什麼手段和目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3371.wav",
        "text": "現在整個打詐的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3372.wav",
        "text": "我現在要弄打詐四法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3373.wav",
        "text": "每一個環節都很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3374.wav",
        "text": "各部會都來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3375.wav",
        "text": "法務部也來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3376.wav",
        "text": "金管會也來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3377.wav",
        "text": "刑事警察局也來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3378.wav",
        "text": "內政部都來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3379.wav",
        "text": "它是整個國家要去處理的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3380.wav",
        "text": "地說出事情就把電信公司關一關就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3381.wav",
        "text": "沒有這麼簡單的一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3382.wav",
        "text": "你就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3383.wav",
        "text": "主張我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3384.wav",
        "text": "這要有一點衡平原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3385.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3386.wav",
        "text": "接下來請黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3387.wav",
        "text": "我看這個法條的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3388.wav",
        "text": "我必須要老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3389.wav",
        "text": "文意本身我有點困惑了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3390.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3391.wav",
        "text": "指的是向未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3392.wav",
        "text": "還是包括過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3393.wav",
        "text": "已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3394.wav",
        "text": "拿到的頻率被廢止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3395.wav",
        "text": "或者是撤銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3396.wav",
        "text": "那真的很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3397.wav",
        "text": "我也反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3398.wav",
        "text": "人家已經拿到的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3399.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼把它弄掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3400.wav",
        "text": "但"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3401.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3402.wav",
        "text": "只作為一個未來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3403.wav",
        "text": "那就不牽涉到已經拿到頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3404.wav",
        "text": "既有使用者的權益保護問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3405.wav",
        "text": "從這個法條的文字上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3406.wav",
        "text": "我老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3407.wav",
        "text": "我有點看不太出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3408.wav",
        "text": "它是禁止既有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3409.wav",
        "text": "還是未來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3410.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3411.wav",
        "text": "會造成很多人因此而受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3412.wav",
        "text": "如果不是禁止既有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3413.wav",
        "text": "既有的沒有要撤銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3414.wav",
        "text": "也沒有要廢止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3415.wav",
        "text": "但我只是要影響未來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3416.wav",
        "text": "那就牽扯不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3417.wav",
        "text": "什麼很多人會被影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3418.wav",
        "text": "的這個層次的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3419.wav",
        "text": "真的會被影響的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3420.wav",
        "text": "我老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3421.wav",
        "text": "也只有這個電信公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3422.wav",
        "text": "所以我有一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3423.wav",
        "text": "因為在討論的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3424.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛愈聽愈困惑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3425.wav",
        "text": "怎麼聽起來大家好像都在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3426.wav",
        "text": "過去的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3427.wav",
        "text": "撤銷或廢止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3428.wav",
        "text": "但我看起來好像也沒這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3429.wav",
        "text": "就這部分的意義闡明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3430.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以再更清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3431.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3432.wav",
        "text": "接下來請鍾佳濱委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3433.wav",
        "text": "我覺得黃總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3434.wav",
        "text": "假如有ABC三家租車公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3435.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣的民眾都靠這三家租車公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3436.wav",
        "text": "A租車公司的車子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3437.wav",
        "text": "現在我們通通不讓A公司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3438.wav",
        "text": "租車服務可以運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3439.wav",
        "text": "影響到業者的部分就包含全部客戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3440.wav",
        "text": "A公司B公司C公司取得這些頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3441.wav",
        "text": "核配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3442.wav",
        "text": "它是向主管機關取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3443.wav",
        "text": "而且是透過標購的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3444.wav",
        "text": "如果按照剛剛黃總召的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3445.wav",
        "text": "請NCC說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3446.wav",
        "text": "這樣的財產在運作的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3447.wav",
        "text": "它有一些不良紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3448.wav",
        "text": "是不是得禁止其未來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3449.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3450.wav",
        "text": "當你有不良前科的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3451.wav",
        "text": "因為我們的頻譜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3452.wav",
        "text": "要重新再標購一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3453.wav",
        "text": "它在得到這樣的權利運用期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3454.wav",
        "text": "如果有這些紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3455.wav",
        "text": "主管機關認為惡行重大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3456.wav",
        "text": "未來就不讓它繼續參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3457.wav",
        "text": "那可能是向後發生效力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3458.wav",
        "text": "這部分是不是可以考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3459.wav",
        "text": "是不是請主秘來做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3460.wav",
        "text": "主秘要說明以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3461.wav",
        "text": "我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3462.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是要來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3463.wav",
        "text": "現在只有3家而已嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3464.wav",
        "text": "你犯什麼法犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3465.wav",
        "text": "犯什麼罪刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3466.wav",
        "text": "犯什麼規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3467.wav",
        "text": "以後都不能來標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3468.wav",
        "text": "現在有沒有這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3469.wav",
        "text": "同時要請提案委員說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3470.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要搞清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3471.wav",
        "text": "提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3472.wav",
        "text": "到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3473.wav",
        "text": "請許宇甄委員補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3474.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們本來就只說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3475.wav",
        "text": "未來標售的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3476.wav",
        "text": "NCC黃主秘你辛苦啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3477.wav",
        "text": "你再解釋一下吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3478.wav",
        "text": "過去確實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3479.wav",
        "text": "沒有把違規紀錄當作失格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3480.wav",
        "text": "當作來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3481.wav",
        "text": "的這樣一個限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3482.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3483.wav",
        "text": "立法上的選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3484.wav",
        "text": "說實在話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3485.wav",
        "text": "以後頻率只會越用越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3486.wav",
        "text": "而且電信事業其實是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3487.wav",
        "text": "有能力去標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3488.wav",
        "text": "這麼貴的頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3489.wav",
        "text": "其實也不是很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3490.wav",
        "text": "還是那句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3491.wav",
        "text": "限制一個事業的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3492.wav",
        "text": "當作手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3493.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3494.wav",
        "text": "其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3495.wav",
        "text": "長遠來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3496.wav",
        "text": "還是有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3497.wav",
        "text": "手段目的不平衡的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3498.wav",
        "text": "當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3499.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3500.wav",
        "text": "立法上的選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3501.wav",
        "text": "這不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3502.wav",
        "text": "立法選擇的問題而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3503.wav",
        "text": "你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3504.wav",
        "text": "你就罰它什麼錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3505.wav",
        "text": "然後還加上一個最重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3506.wav",
        "text": "這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3507.wav",
        "text": "坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3508.wav",
        "text": "以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3509.wav",
        "text": "也沒有這樣立法例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3510.wav",
        "text": "同時它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3511.wav",
        "text": "那個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3512.wav",
        "text": "只是很多是瑣碎的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3513.wav",
        "text": "但是已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3514.wav",
        "text": "在它罰錢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3515.wav",
        "text": "罰得很重了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3516.wav",
        "text": "每一家電信公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3517.wav",
        "text": "被罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3518.wav",
        "text": "對它來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3519.wav",
        "text": "是一個非常大的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3520.wav",
        "text": "尤其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3521.wav",
        "text": "有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3522.wav",
        "text": "上市公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3523.wav",
        "text": "還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3524.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3525.wav",
        "text": "我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3526.wav",
        "text": "手段目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3527.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的寫法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3528.wav",
        "text": "好像是政府什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3529.wav",
        "text": "就是推給業者而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3530.wav",
        "text": "把業者不應該承擔的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3531.wav",
        "text": "拿來承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3532.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3533.wav",
        "text": "也沒有辦法解決問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3534.wav",
        "text": "也不應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3535.wav",
        "text": "一罪兩罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3536.wav",
        "text": "而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3537.wav",
        "text": "第二個罰是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3538.wav",
        "text": "完全的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3539.wav",
        "text": "要斟酌一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3540.wav",
        "text": "謝謝柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3541.wav",
        "text": "的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3542.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3543.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3544.wav",
        "text": "大家私底下溝通一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3545.wav",
        "text": "我們今天掌握時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3546.wav",
        "text": "還有很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3547.wav",
        "text": "的打詐四法要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3548.wav",
        "text": "我們準備要做一個結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3549.wav",
        "text": "我喊休息3分鐘之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3550.wav",
        "text": "我們私底下來溝通一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3551.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3552.wav",
        "text": "還有第44條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3553.wav",
        "text": "第44條等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3554.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3555.wav",
        "text": "我們先確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3556.wav",
        "text": "要不然就送院會了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3557.wav",
        "text": "我等一下要做決定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3558.wav",
        "text": "我們休息3分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3559.wav",
        "text": "不然很嚴重啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3560.wav",
        "text": "啦要再談一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3561.wav",
        "text": "等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3562.wav",
        "text": "二十四第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3563.wav",
        "text": "二十四第25條一併討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3564.wav",
        "text": "我想剛剛大家已經討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3565.wav",
        "text": "非常踴躍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3566.wav",
        "text": "本黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3567.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也都在場我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3568.wav",
        "text": "當然柯總召也有強烈地表達啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3569.wav",
        "text": "但是我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3570.wav",
        "text": "連續罰是沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3571.wav",
        "text": "把一千萬的罰則提高變成兩千萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3572.wav",
        "text": "那個我們尊重啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3573.wav",
        "text": "到底要不要禁止其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3574.wav",
        "text": "核配頻率這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3575.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得這個還是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3576.wav",
        "text": "有一個約束的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3577.wav",
        "text": "當然柯總召覺得它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3578.wav",
        "text": "這個投資是很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3579.wav",
        "text": "這個頻率要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3580.wav",
        "text": "我們可以參照柯總召的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3581.wav",
        "text": "但是我們還是要修正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3582.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3583.wav",
        "text": "還是要修正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3584.wav",
        "text": "我們還是把它修正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3585.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3586.wav",
        "text": "他已經講得很清楚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3587.wav",
        "text": "你不是3點鐘要離開嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3588.wav",
        "text": "我知道但是如果你現在要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3589.wav",
        "text": "這問題很嚴重啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3590.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁委員也瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3591.wav",
        "text": "電信法連二類電信都沒有在管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3592.wav",
        "text": "包括KYC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3593.wav",
        "text": "包括漫遊的整個資料等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3594.wav",
        "text": "都是一些小問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3595.wav",
        "text": "已經從一千萬罰到兩千"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3596.wav",
        "text": "萬你要再繼續吊照的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3597.wav",
        "text": "現在的詐騙集團不是到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3598.wav",
        "text": "沒有電信公司就不會有詐騙集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3599.wav",
        "text": "全部把它吊照就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3600.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣的搞法嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3601.wav",
        "text": "我們現在有打詐四法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3602.wav",
        "text": "所有的法全部都要下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3603.wav",
        "text": "政府的工具都要下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3604.wav",
        "text": "不是只有亂世用重典"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3605.wav",
        "text": "典到最後三家電信公司剩兩家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3606.wav",
        "text": "這樣還得了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3607.wav",
        "text": "現在AI的世界都要網路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3608.wav",
        "text": "不是這個邏輯嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3609.wav",
        "text": "已經加重罰則了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3610.wav",
        "text": "罰了以外還要吊照的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3611.wav",
        "text": "啦人家投資數千億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3612.wav",
        "text": "所以大家再想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3613.wav",
        "text": "院長我們稍微補充完之後就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3614.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員請稍待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3615.wav",
        "text": "因為我們意思跟他並沒有相左"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3616.wav",
        "text": "啦但是這個東西我們還是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3617.wav",
        "text": "好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3618.wav",
        "text": "還有時間沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3619.wav",
        "text": "好的接下來請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3620.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄委員請準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3621.wav",
        "text": "我很快的講30秒就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3622.wav",
        "text": "因為罰款是一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3623.wav",
        "text": "這個禁止已經是到最極端了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3624.wav",
        "text": "各位委員都可以想想看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3625.wav",
        "text": "因為限制可能是在中間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3626.wav",
        "text": "那你不可能在法條設計上面本來是罰款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3627.wav",
        "text": "然後跳到最嚴格的直接禁止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3628.wav",
        "text": "了中間可能還有限制等等之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3629.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是定一套比較完整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3630.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是還是回歸原來的院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3631.wav",
        "text": "啦這可能可以思考一下不然中間會跳太大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3632.wav",
        "text": "謝謝沈伯洋委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3633.wav",
        "text": "\n現在請莊瑞雄委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3634.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3635.wav",
        "text": "我請各位再思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3636.wav",
        "text": "你說犯罪的場所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3637.wav",
        "text": "你一再地處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3638.wav",
        "text": "處罰不聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3639.wav",
        "text": "到最後才叫你停止營業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3640.wav",
        "text": "啦但是你去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3641.wav",
        "text": "前面社維法那是因為那個場所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3642.wav",
        "text": "有風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3643.wav",
        "text": "喔可是你現在這個頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3644.wav",
        "text": "並不是犯罪所生的要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3645.wav",
        "text": "頻率的部分你這樣變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3646.wav",
        "text": "我們前端沒有處理好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3647.wav",
        "text": "偵查機關沒有處理好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3648.wav",
        "text": "我就全部丟給你反正就是你電信機關的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3649.wav",
        "text": "這個聽起來也怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3650.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會裡面我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3651.wav",
        "text": "我們要去抄德國的我們要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3652.wav",
        "text": "全套同樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3653.wav",
        "text": "這個就讓我有一個感覺我剛剛去看日本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3654.wav",
        "text": "我們有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3655.wav",
        "text": "非法使用的概念他們採取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3656.wav",
        "text": "跟臺灣這一次修法類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3657.wav",
        "text": "的方式可是他們強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3658.wav",
        "text": "手機持有的成本像是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3659.wav",
        "text": "門號搭配日本刑法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3660.wav",
        "text": "強調確認契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3661.wav",
        "text": "日本也沒有處罰到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3662.wav",
        "text": "我勒令你停止整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3663.wav",
        "text": "頻率的規範所以我請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3664.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的朋友再考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3665.wav",
        "text": "行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3666.wav",
        "text": "老百姓對你的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3667.wav",
        "text": "沒有達成沒有達成以後我們就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3668.wav",
        "text": "的問題它要負最大的責任都丟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3669.wav",
        "text": "等於類似把人家廢止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3670.wav",
        "text": "這個我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3671.wav",
        "text": "會比較趨向柯總召講的這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3672.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3673.wav",
        "text": "這兩天先談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3674.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3675.wav",
        "text": "這兩天大家談一談好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3676.wav",
        "text": "再談沒關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3677.wav",
        "text": "你們黨團之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3678.wav",
        "text": "詐欺犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3679.wav",
        "text": "危害防制條例第44條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3680.wav",
        "text": "修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3681.wav",
        "text": "現在有台灣民眾黨黨團所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3682.wav",
        "text": "全部都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3683.wav",
        "text": "以及各位列席委員有沒有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3684.wav",
        "text": "寶貴的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3685.wav",
        "text": "請黃國昌總召發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3686.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3687.wav",
        "text": "我簡短說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3688.wav",
        "text": "我們就針對第44條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3689.wav",
        "text": "提出這樣子的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3690.wav",
        "text": "其實最主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3691.wav",
        "text": "透過犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3692.wav",
        "text": "組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3693.wav",
        "text": "犯這些罪的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3694.wav",
        "text": "遠遠比三個人以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3695.wav",
        "text": "偶爾犯之來得重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3696.wav",
        "text": "但是在我國的司法實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3697.wav",
        "text": "組織犯罪防制條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3698.wav",
        "text": "現在快要被架空了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3699.wav",
        "text": "因為都是一行為觸犯數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3700.wav",
        "text": "罪名到時候想像競合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3701.wav",
        "text": "想像競合掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3702.wav",
        "text": "這樣子一點意義都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3703.wav",
        "text": "我們對於犯罪組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3704.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法給首腦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3705.wav",
        "text": "足夠威嚇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3706.wav",
        "text": "的處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3707.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3708.wav",
        "text": "它的法定刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3709.wav",
        "text": "所以我們提出第44條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3710.wav",
        "text": "的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3711.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3712.wav",
        "text": "次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3713.wav",
        "text": "對應的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3714.wav",
        "text": "是說就發起組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3715.wav",
        "text": "操縱或指揮的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3716.wav",
        "text": "讓它到五年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3717.wav",
        "text": "十二年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3718.wav",
        "text": "徒刑併科新臺幣三億元以下罰金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3719.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3720.wav",
        "text": "我們是敬表同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3721.wav",
        "text": "參與的部分他們可能也有顧及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3722.wav",
        "text": "就是參與那個犯罪組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3723.wav",
        "text": "因為或許有一些年輕人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3724.wav",
        "text": "參與到那裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3725.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話相對而言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3726.wav",
        "text": "是不是對那些年輕人太重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3727.wav",
        "text": "要給他一個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3728.wav",
        "text": "跟妥協我們是可以接受的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3729.wav",
        "text": "針對第44條我們所提出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3730.wav",
        "text": "再修正動議把當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3731.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3732.wav",
        "text": "定實質上面的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3733.wav",
        "text": "現實上面的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3734.wav",
        "text": "跟院長還有各位黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3735.wav",
        "text": "來做說明跟報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3736.wav",
        "text": "不過剛剛法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3737.wav",
        "text": "就是我們處罰重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3738.wav",
        "text": "主要是針對首腦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3739.wav",
        "text": "針對老大那一些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3740.wav",
        "text": "那就其他參與的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3741.wav",
        "text": "我們還是回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3742.wav",
        "text": "來加以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3743.wav",
        "text": "這個我們可以同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3744.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3745.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請沈伯洋委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3746.wav",
        "text": "我快速說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3747.wav",
        "text": "就是早期民眾黨有提出一個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3748.wav",
        "text": "直接就是第303條之4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3749.wav",
        "text": "我覺得法務部在之後可能可以考慮這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3750.wav",
        "text": "是因為畢竟三人以上很寬鬆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3751.wav",
        "text": "然後又會評價兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3752.wav",
        "text": "所以如果以後能夠把它移到最前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3753.wav",
        "text": "各組織就是首腦的加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3754.wav",
        "text": "聽起來在法理上是比較衡平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3755.wav",
        "text": "但是因為已經提出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3756.wav",
        "text": "打詐專法的第44條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3757.wav",
        "text": "那不能用三人以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3758.wav",
        "text": "然後又要再用犯罪組織加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3759.wav",
        "text": "那樣會變得太多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3760.wav",
        "text": "我們在妥協的方案裡面先暫時這樣三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3761.wav",
        "text": "人以上那個早就已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3762.wav",
        "text": "上一屆我們都處理掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3763.wav",
        "text": "請柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3764.wav",
        "text": "我想基本方向我是認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3765.wav",
        "text": "我想瞭解的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3766.wav",
        "text": "這個到底是幾個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3767.wav",
        "text": "是同一個人還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3768.wav",
        "text": "不同行為態樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3769.wav",
        "text": "好四種人也可能合一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3770.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請法務部簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3771.wav",
        "text": "扼要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3772.wav",
        "text": "謝謝跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3773.wav",
        "text": "如同剛剛各位委員所說明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3774.wav",
        "text": "他參與發起操縱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3775.wav",
        "text": "指揮相關的詐欺集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3776.wav",
        "text": "的話我們認為這部分非常可惡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3777.wav",
        "text": "所以我們同意這部分把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3778.wav",
        "text": "獨立成另外一種犯罪類型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3779.wav",
        "text": "至於參與的部分我們認為就如同剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3780.wav",
        "text": "所以參與的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3781.wav",
        "text": "是不是就維持原來條文不把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3782.wav",
        "text": "獨立成另外一個犯罪類型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3783.wav",
        "text": "以上說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3784.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝法務部的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3785.wav",
        "text": "\n各位黨團幹部各位列席的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3786.wav",
        "text": "第44條就照法務部版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3787.wav",
        "text": "\n先唸一下今天協商的結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3788.wav",
        "text": "併案審查行政院函請審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3789.wav",
        "text": "詐欺犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3790.wav",
        "text": "危害防制條例草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3791.wav",
        "text": "犯罪危害防制條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3792.wav",
        "text": "草案\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3793.wav",
        "text": "\n協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3794.wav",
        "text": "一協商通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3795.wav",
        "text": "(一)照行政院提案通過第8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3796.wav",
        "text": "第11條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3797.wav",
        "text": "第12條第13條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3798.wav",
        "text": "第57條\n(二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3799.wav",
        "text": ")照協商條文通過第20條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3800.wav",
        "text": "第44條第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3801.wav",
        "text": "二保留條文第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3802.wav",
        "text": "第25條送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3803.wav",
        "text": "院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3804.wav",
        "text": "\n三通過附帶決議3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3805.wav",
        "text": "四其餘均照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3806.wav",
        "text": "審查會審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3807.wav",
        "text": "（其中第2項附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3808.wav",
        "text": "不予處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3809.wav",
        "text": "）\n五委員提案及相關修正動議均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3810.wav",
        "text": "列入紀錄刊登公報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3811.wav",
        "text": "\n六補充立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3812.wav",
        "text": "惠等委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3813.wav",
        "text": "詐欺犯罪危害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3814.wav",
        "text": "防制條例草案等5案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3815.wav",
        "text": "從委員會抽出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3816.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀與相關提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3817.wav",
        "text": "併案在本次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3818.wav",
        "text": "會議處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3819.wav",
        "text": "\n八院會處理時非保留部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3820.wav",
        "text": "宣讀後均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3821.wav",
        "text": "予以通過保留部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3822.wav",
        "text": "均暫保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3823.wav",
        "text": "保留部分院會進行處理前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3824.wav",
        "text": "由各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3825.wav",
        "text": "推派1人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3826.wav",
        "text": "依台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3827.wav",
        "text": "民進黨黨團國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3828.wav",
        "text": "黨黨團順序輪流發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3829.wav",
        "text": "每人發言時間為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3830.wav",
        "text": "3分鐘發言完畢後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3831.wav",
        "text": "各該保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3832.wav",
        "text": "條文均不再發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3833.wav",
        "text": "即進行各保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3834.wav",
        "text": "協商結論請問各黨團有沒有寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3835.wav",
        "text": "請柯建銘總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3836.wav",
        "text": "當然有意見啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3837.wav",
        "text": "你這是要一次把它敲定趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3838.wav",
        "text": "快送去表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3839.wav",
        "text": "剛才我和傅崐萁的意思都講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3840.wav",
        "text": "家講好就沒有所謂要表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3841.wav",
        "text": "這樣重大的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3842.wav",
        "text": "我們再去處理時間還沒到嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3843.wav",
        "text": "最後再來講嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3844.wav",
        "text": "我們再處理好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3845.wav",
        "text": "每一條都這樣簽一簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3846.wav",
        "text": "叫做保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3847.wav",
        "text": "那沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3848.wav",
        "text": "星期四早上10點半拜託各位黨團幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3849.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3850.wav",
        "text": "內政部還有法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3851.wav",
        "text": "星期四上午10點半我們繼續協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3852.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位行政官員列席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16082/3853.wav",
        "text": "列席現在散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/0.wav",
        "text": "因為我們對於院長所發出的協商通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/1.wav",
        "text": "向來都非常的尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/2.wav",
        "text": "再忙有什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/3.wav",
        "text": "我們就儘量排開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/4.wav",
        "text": "然後儘量派代表來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/5.wav",
        "text": "當然依法論法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/6.wav",
        "text": "這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/7.wav",
        "text": "在一個月的期間當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/8.wav",
        "text": "有召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/9.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法有協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/10.wav",
        "text": "那我們就按照議事規則處理嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/11.wav",
        "text": "否則的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/12.wav",
        "text": "包括院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/13.wav",
        "text": "其他的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/14.wav",
        "text": "本來大家都很忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/15.wav",
        "text": "為了這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/16.wav",
        "text": "將所有的事情都排開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/17.wav",
        "text": "我相信院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/18.wav",
        "text": "跟其他黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/19.wav",
        "text": "可以充分理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/20.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/21.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商這個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/22.wav",
        "text": "按照立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/23.wav",
        "text": "的規定在1個月的冷凍期內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/24.wav",
        "text": "要召集嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/25.wav",
        "text": "召集也沒有辦法強迫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/26.wav",
        "text": "說誰一定要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/27.wav",
        "text": "或者是來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/28.wav",
        "text": "一定要有什麼結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/29.wav",
        "text": "從來也沒有這樣子的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/30.wav",
        "text": "它就是我們在立法程序當中的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/31.wav",
        "text": "那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/32.wav",
        "text": "出現了這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/33.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法召開協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/34.wav",
        "text": "我們該踐行的立法程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/35.wav",
        "text": "也踐行完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/36.wav",
        "text": "在院會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/37.wav",
        "text": "我覺得該怎麼處理就怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/38.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/39.wav",
        "text": "感覺你喘得非常厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/40.wav",
        "text": "是跑步來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/41.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/42.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們請洪孟楷書記長簡單發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/43.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/44.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/45.wav",
        "text": "我們非常簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/46.wav",
        "text": "但是我必須代表國民黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/47.wav",
        "text": "表達最沉重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/48.wav",
        "text": "而且沉痛的一個抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/49.wav",
        "text": "因為據我所知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/50.wav",
        "text": "我們在上個禮拜五7點多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/51.wav",
        "text": "院長其實在離開時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/52.wav",
        "text": "已經先宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/53.wav",
        "text": "今天下午應該是2點半要開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/54.wav",
        "text": "但後來因為民進黨團的強力要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/55.wav",
        "text": "才改成3點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/56.wav",
        "text": "本來民進黨團是要求今天4點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/57.wav",
        "text": "後來折衷是3點鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/58.wav",
        "text": "3點鐘也是民進黨團提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/59.wav",
        "text": "這是第一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/60.wav",
        "text": "今天討論電業法考試院人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/61.wav",
        "text": "打詐四法刑事訴訟法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/62.wav",
        "text": "這些不重要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/63.wav",
        "text": "這一些不關乎民生議題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/64.wav",
        "text": "這些民進黨團不是也有自己的條文嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/65.wav",
        "text": "這5個法案不只我們今天遞案的幾個部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/66.wav",
        "text": "包括經濟部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/67.wav",
        "text": "台電董事長總經理等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/68.wav",
        "text": "還有包括十多個中央機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/69.wav",
        "text": "今天民進黨團說不來就不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/70.wav",
        "text": "是把國家公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/71.wav",
        "text": "院長完全都沒有放在眼裡嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/72.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這一件事情是非常非常離譜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/73.wav",
        "text": "的\n再者院長我想今天利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/74.wav",
        "text": "這個朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/75.wav",
        "text": "也特別向您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/76.wav",
        "text": "今天早上立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/77.wav",
        "text": "有發生過去沒發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/78.wav",
        "text": "的有委員直接破壞門鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/79.wav",
        "text": "進入到委員會會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/80.wav",
        "text": "破壞門鎖進入到會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/81.wav",
        "text": "5點多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/82.wav",
        "text": "就有民進黨團的總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/83.wav",
        "text": "帶著民進黨的委員魚貫進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/84.wav",
        "text": "我們想問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/85.wav",
        "text": "過去議場在第10屆的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/86.wav",
        "text": "有確定因為之前也有民進黨的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/87.wav",
        "text": "從議場後門進入到議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/88.wav",
        "text": "也因此當時作成朝野協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/89.wav",
        "text": "就是以後都一致規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/90.wav",
        "text": "7點鐘只開放議場前左邊的這一個門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/91.wav",
        "text": "其餘三方的門都是7點半才開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/92.wav",
        "text": "就是要有公平一致的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/93.wav",
        "text": "我再次強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/94.wav",
        "text": "當時就是在第10屆的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/95.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的委員從後門進入到議場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/96.wav",
        "text": "也因此當前門打開的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/97.wav",
        "text": "我們已經排隊好準備進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/98.wav",
        "text": "一打開才發覺民進黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/99.wav",
        "text": "已經坐在主席臺上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/100.wav",
        "text": "而當時經過朝野協商確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/101.wav",
        "text": "7點鐘準時開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/102.wav",
        "text": "前面左邊的門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/103.wav",
        "text": "其餘的3個門是7點30分才準時開啟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/104.wav",
        "text": "\n我們委員會的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/105.wav",
        "text": "要不要也確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/106.wav",
        "text": "一下第一是不是應該要換一個更好的鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/107.wav",
        "text": "不能讓任何宵小或是任何委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/108.wav",
        "text": "能夠這樣破壞門鎖就可以直接進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/109.wav",
        "text": "第二是不是我們要有一個一致的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/110.wav",
        "text": "\n院長今天我提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/111.wav",
        "text": "是不是請您可以請秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/112.wav",
        "text": "或是相關的人員來研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/113.wav",
        "text": "但我們要強力地譴責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/114.wav",
        "text": "這樣子破壞會議室破壞議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/115.wav",
        "text": "破壞門鎖的犯罪行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/116.wav",
        "text": "我想這已經構成犯罪行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/117.wav",
        "text": "監視器都已經看到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/118.wav",
        "text": "尤其身為立法委員應當以身作則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/119.wav",
        "text": "這一點我們也提出強烈的譴責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/120.wav",
        "text": "譴責民進黨團用非法的手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/121.wav",
        "text": "破壞門鎖進入委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/122.wav",
        "text": "阻擾開會的過程謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/123.wav",
        "text": "特別跟洪書記長還有各位黨團幹部報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/124.wav",
        "text": "我們現在正在查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/125.wav",
        "text": "這個開鎖的人是我們院本部委員的秘書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/126.wav",
        "text": "還是外來的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/127.wav",
        "text": "這中間有很大區別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/128.wav",
        "text": "容許給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/129.wav",
        "text": "我們查完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/130.wav",
        "text": "必須要跟朝野各政黨來報告這個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/131.wav",
        "text": "如果是外來的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/132.wav",
        "text": "我想這是非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/133.wav",
        "text": "院長剛剛監視器畫面都已經出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/134.wav",
        "text": "我們正在查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/135.wav",
        "text": "剛剛書記長有提到這個事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/136.wav",
        "text": "我要再一次的懇請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/137.wav",
        "text": "一個國會如果可以讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/138.wav",
        "text": "少數幾個人這樣子踐踏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/139.wav",
        "text": "我們未來要如何維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/140.wav",
        "text": "這個國會能夠民主討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/141.wav",
        "text": "──一個最卑微的基本的會議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/142.wav",
        "text": "順暢進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/143.wav",
        "text": "我們這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/144.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/145.wav",
        "text": "已經發生民進黨帶著鎖匠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/146.wav",
        "text": "今天更誇張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/147.wav",
        "text": "今天有一位民進黨立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/148.wav",
        "text": "不曉得是熟能生巧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/149.wav",
        "text": "還是過去是常業慣犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/150.wav",
        "text": "是他直接來開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/151.wav",
        "text": "帶著東西直接來開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/152.wav",
        "text": "那一位不管是助理也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/153.wav",
        "text": "還是誰也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/154.wav",
        "text": "不是那一位開的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/155.wav",
        "text": "因為那個畫面我們都已經看過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/156.wav",
        "text": "開完了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/157.wav",
        "text": "然後接下來民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/158.wav",
        "text": "柯總召魚貫的進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/159.wav",
        "text": "大概在四點五十多分的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/160.wav",
        "text": "所以我們六點鐘到達會議室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/161.wav",
        "text": "結果發現裡面是有人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/162.wav",
        "text": "我們七點開門嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/163.wav",
        "text": "結果發現裡面是有人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/164.wav",
        "text": "門不是從外面開是從裡面開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/165.wav",
        "text": "而且冷氣也開很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/166.wav",
        "text": "燈也開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/167.wav",
        "text": "第一個就看到柯總召帶著十幾個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/168.wav",
        "text": "坐在內政委員會的主席臺上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/169.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在到底是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/170.wav",
        "text": "要請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/171.wav",
        "text": "立法院如果再這樣沒有秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/172.wav",
        "text": "未來連立委人身安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/173.wav",
        "text": "都有很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/174.wav",
        "text": "之前國會改革的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/175.wav",
        "text": "我們在朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/176.wav",
        "text": "在院長室朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/177.wav",
        "text": "被民進黨立委禁錮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/178.wav",
        "text": "禁錮到我要打電話報警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/179.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/180.wav",
        "text": "民進黨柯總召帶隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/181.wav",
        "text": "又公然禁錮內政委員會11位議事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/182.wav",
        "text": "這個是從中華民國在臺灣以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/183.wav",
        "text": "立法院史上第一次發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/184.wav",
        "text": "議事人員被禁錮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/185.wav",
        "text": "連上廁所都不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/186.wav",
        "text": "\n我們在跟他通話的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/187.wav",
        "text": "我們要改到群賢樓101開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/188.wav",
        "text": "因為紅樓202已經被民進黨霸占了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/189.wav",
        "text": "結果我們請議事人員過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/190.wav",
        "text": "議事人員說他們每一位都被監控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/191.wav",
        "text": "連上廁所都不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/192.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得在這裡真的要請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/193.wav",
        "text": "到底要怎麼樣這個國會才有一定的法定的秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/194.wav",
        "text": "我想這個還要請院長來主持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/195.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員稍待一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/196.wav",
        "text": "\n請郭部長還有各位列席的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/197.wav",
        "text": "我想後面就跟電業法無關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/198.wav",
        "text": "我也知道大家都非常的忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/199.wav",
        "text": "你們就先請回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/200.wav",
        "text": "明天我們再審查電業法再麻煩大家好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/201.wav",
        "text": "我們讓行政官員先離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/202.wav",
        "text": "後面很多都是我們院本部的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/203.wav",
        "text": "打擾官員的寶貴時間我想也不太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/204.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/205.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位列席的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/206.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/207.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/208.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝大家辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/209.wav",
        "text": "不好意思對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/210.wav",
        "text": "啊大家都準時而來對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/211.wav",
        "text": "\n民眾黨的黃總召有沒有話要繼續發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/212.wav",
        "text": "還是因為這個是輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/213.wav",
        "text": "如果你發言完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/214.wav",
        "text": "羅智強委員就可以有發言的資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/215.wav",
        "text": "這平行的好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/216.wav",
        "text": "我必須要跟你報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/217.wav",
        "text": "院長跟各個委員事實上時間都很寶貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/218.wav",
        "text": "當然現在院長先讓經濟部長他們回去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/219.wav",
        "text": "可是從上個禮拜四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/220.wav",
        "text": "他們癱瘓的4個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/221.wav",
        "text": "有二十多位的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/222.wav",
        "text": "部會首長就在那邊枯坐了一整天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/223.wav",
        "text": "我們立法委員的質詢權都被沒收了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/224.wav",
        "text": "今天早上又重蹈覆轍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/225.wav",
        "text": "今天更可惡了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/226.wav",
        "text": "他們不只開了鎖進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/227.wav",
        "text": "你看我們台灣民眾黨是有主體性有主動性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/228.wav",
        "text": "我們自己要提案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/229.wav",
        "text": "我們對選罷法是有對案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/230.wav",
        "text": "結果案子也沒辦法提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/231.wav",
        "text": "我去登記發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/232.wav",
        "text": "從上禮拜四到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/233.wav",
        "text": "一句話到現在都沒辦法講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/234.wav",
        "text": "我們要表示嚴正的抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/235.wav",
        "text": "啊所以拜託院長這一塊要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/236.wav",
        "text": "這是一個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/237.wav",
        "text": "這要解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/238.wav",
        "text": "關係民進黨自己在說民生跟經濟多重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/239.wav",
        "text": "電業法今天為什麼要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/240.wav",
        "text": "我們台灣民眾黨提電價凍漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/241.wav",
        "text": "講了多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/242.wav",
        "text": "國民黨要求電價不能漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/243.wav",
        "text": "國民黨跟台灣民眾黨都提了案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/244.wav",
        "text": "所以才需要今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/245.wav",
        "text": "啊4月1號已經漲了電價了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/246.wav",
        "text": "民進黨又不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/247.wav",
        "text": "那人民的聲音怎麼出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/248.wav",
        "text": "人民因為停電跳電那麼苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/249.wav",
        "text": "你們4月1號漲了電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/250.wav",
        "text": "那個機制到底要怎麼去把它完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/251.wav",
        "text": "我們就是帶著提案來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/252.wav",
        "text": "要跟他們好好協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/253.wav",
        "text": "他們又不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/254.wav",
        "text": "我要問第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/255.wav",
        "text": "到底有辦法可解決嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/256.wav",
        "text": "第二以後它協商都不來怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/257.wav",
        "text": "明天早上他們如果又不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/258.wav",
        "text": "呢所以我請院長這個可能要幫我們處理一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/259.wav",
        "text": "會不能拖累我們不能開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/260.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/261.wav",
        "text": "嘛第二個你不能連協商都不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/262.wav",
        "text": "啊我們已經來這邊等了幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/263.wav",
        "text": "了我昨天也來對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/264.wav",
        "text": "我們黨團很多人本來今天下午都有事情了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/265.wav",
        "text": "為了這樣我們把事情推開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/266.wav",
        "text": "結果你看今天又泡湯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/267.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/268.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/269.wav",
        "text": "\n羅智強委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/270.wav",
        "text": "你有發言機會請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/271.wav",
        "text": "真的辛苦也為難院長了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/272.wav",
        "text": "除了在上個禮拜四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/273.wav",
        "text": "我說實在話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/274.wav",
        "text": "它癱瘓內政委員會已經是很糟糕了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/275.wav",
        "text": "嘛討論選罷法你反對很正常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/276.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果你真要杯葛強占主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/277.wav",
        "text": "那只顯示你的野蠻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/278.wav",
        "text": "可是民進黨不是只癱瘓內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/279.wav",
        "text": "它是連司法及法制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/280.wav",
        "text": "經濟還有外交及國防委員會全部癱瘓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/281.wav",
        "text": "就像剛剛的情形一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/282.wav",
        "text": "稻草人一樣坐在那邊發呆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/283.wav",
        "text": "然後今天也一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/284.wav",
        "text": "啊繼續癱瘓內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/285.wav",
        "text": "接下來朝野協商已經定好都說好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/286.wav",
        "text": "它也不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/287.wav",
        "text": "我覺得民進黨的作法很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/288.wav",
        "text": "啦就是今天朝野協商開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/289.wav",
        "text": "說好了它不來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/290.wav",
        "text": "因為它一直缺席沒辦法召開朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/291.wav",
        "text": "等到最後程序走完它會跟你講沒有討論沒有民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/292.wav",
        "text": "所以我才說院長真的是非常為難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/293.wav",
        "text": "啦反正怎麼樣講都是它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/294.wav",
        "text": "光這一個禮拜又發生兩件已經打破紀錄的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/295.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是民進黨為了癱瘓內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/296.wav",
        "text": "居然去拘束議事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/297.wav",
        "text": "嚴格來講這已經有強制罪的問題了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/298.wav",
        "text": "它把議事人員拘束在場域裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/299.wav",
        "text": "連上廁所都不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/300.wav",
        "text": "啊今天是你自己帶人進來開鎖開門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/301.wav",
        "text": "那請問我們立法院的公共安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/302.wav",
        "text": "坦白講我一直覺得立法院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/303.wav",
        "text": "這一屆韓院長是歷來最辛苦的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/304.wav",
        "text": "啦因為朝野協商都是全程公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/305.wav",
        "text": "但是國會尊嚴的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/306.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這一屆也不知道國會要如何運作了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/307.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/308.wav",
        "text": "特別跟各位黨團幹部還有各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/309.wav",
        "text": "如果說外面的鎖匠能夠來開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/310.wav",
        "text": "我們不同委員會的門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/311.wav",
        "text": "就代表外面的鎖匠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/312.wav",
        "text": "可以開任何一個立法委員研究室的門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/313.wav",
        "text": "這不光只是國會尊嚴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/314.wav",
        "text": "還有一個國會安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/315.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛開宗明義就跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/316.wav",
        "text": "到底是委員本身還是助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/317.wav",
        "text": "還是外面鎖匠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/318.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在查這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/319.wav",
        "text": "查完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/320.wav",
        "text": "想這件事情是相當嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/321.wav",
        "text": "立法院裡面也沒有發生過這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/322.wav",
        "text": "\n我想這次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/323.wav",
        "text": "明天早上就麻煩大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/324.wav",
        "text": "9點半到下午3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/325.wav",
        "text": "我們儘可能來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/326.wav",
        "text": "先跟院長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/327.wav",
        "text": "對院長沒有不敬的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/328.wav",
        "text": "明天早上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/329.wav",
        "text": "我自己也要總質詢啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/330.wav",
        "text": "我工作就排了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/331.wav",
        "text": "總質詢時間是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/332.wav",
        "text": "反正一組就15分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/333.wav",
        "text": "嘛我會想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/334.wav",
        "text": "啦就拜託黨團其他的幹部來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/335.wav",
        "text": "但我要說的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/336.wav",
        "text": "其實我們大家針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/337.wav",
        "text": "院長召集的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/338.wav",
        "text": "我們一直很配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/339.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可能還是要回到之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/340.wav",
        "text": "我有一次在黨團協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/341.wav",
        "text": "其實我開宗明義問過的議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/342.wav",
        "text": "法案出了委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/343.wav",
        "text": "如果要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/344.wav",
        "text": "召集過協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/345.wav",
        "text": "協商沒有成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/346.wav",
        "text": "因為協商來這裡就是共識決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/347.wav",
        "text": "協商沒成立就沒成立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/348.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們就可以定期交院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/349.wav",
        "text": "我想要再度確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/350.wav",
        "text": "因為針對這麼簡單的議事規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/351.wav",
        "text": "一直有人在胡說八道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/352.wav",
        "text": "講一些有的沒的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/353.wav",
        "text": "我想要再度確認規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/354.wav",
        "text": "立法院的規則應該是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/355.wav",
        "text": "我對於立法院職權行使法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/356.wav",
        "text": "法的理解應該沒有錯誤吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/357.wav",
        "text": "謝謝黃國昌總召再次提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/358.wav",
        "text": "再次跟各位報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/359.wav",
        "text": "因為黃委員提了很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/360.wav",
        "text": "很抱歉我沒有把當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/361.wav",
        "text": "當時我寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/362.wav",
        "text": "為了第71條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/363.wav",
        "text": "你曾經在黨團協商會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/364.wav",
        "text": "明確的提了3點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/365.wav",
        "text": "有人質疑黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/366.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為是第71條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/367.wav",
        "text": "作了宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/368.wav",
        "text": "宣告之後我想黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/369.wav",
        "text": "應該記得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/370.wav",
        "text": "你當時要求蘇院長釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/371.wav",
        "text": "的三種情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/372.wav",
        "text": "這個我們是很確定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/373.wav",
        "text": "個一個月的冷凍期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/374.wav",
        "text": "怎麼去認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/375.wav",
        "text": "一定是按照當時在第9屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/376.wav",
        "text": "來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/377.wav",
        "text": "再次謝謝黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/378.wav",
        "text": "幹部明天早上9點半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/379.wav",
        "text": "非常不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16079/380.wav",
        "text": "繼續協商謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家我們今天第1項協商的議題是有關憲法法庭的通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/1.wav",
        "text": "等相關事宜因為憲法法庭有最新的通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/2.wav",
        "text": "請我們本院推派機關代表3人訴訟代理人3人鑑定人2人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/3.wav",
        "text": "這2件通知我們就合併處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/4.wav",
        "text": "本件因為有時效性過去針對司法院函請本院推派的代表或委任的訴訟代理人鑑定人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/5.wav",
        "text": "歷來均由聲請黨團以外之其他黨團推派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/6.wav",
        "text": "這一次我們憲法裁判聲請人是民進黨黨團柯建銘總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/7.wav",
        "text": "我們循例草擬協商結論的草稿等一下我們會發下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/8.wav",
        "text": "等一下我會先念一下念完之後請各位黨團表達意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16072/9.wav",
        "text": "跟各位黨團幹部報告一下因為剛才才收到總共有3件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/1.wav",
        "text": "政院主計總處公務預算處的廖專門委員熱情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/2.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/3.wav",
        "text": "到底要怎麼去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/4.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/5.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/6.wav",
        "text": "我們就下一次繼續來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16071/7.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/0.wav",
        "text": "2點30分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/1.wav",
        "text": "司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/2.wav",
        "text": "預定要開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/3.wav",
        "text": "所以本日的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/4.wav",
        "text": "因為三黨都沒有到場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/5.wav",
        "text": "立法院職權行使法第十二章的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/6.wav",
        "text": "黨團協商會議再進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/7.wav",
        "text": "\n在這邊跟各位表達謝意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16069/8.wav",
        "text": "散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/0.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝各位大家辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1.wav",
        "text": "我現在宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2.wav",
        "text": "開始開會\n各位黨團代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/3.wav",
        "text": "還有行政機關代表大家午安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/4.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要進行的黨團協商的主題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/5.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/6.wav",
        "text": "併案審查委員羅美玲等22人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/7.wav",
        "text": "王美惠等19人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/8.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/9.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/10.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/11.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/12.wav",
        "text": "委員張智倫等18人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/13.wav",
        "text": "委員蘇巧慧等26人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/14.wav",
        "text": "邱鎮軍等27人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/15.wav",
        "text": "分別擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/16.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/17.wav",
        "text": "提案併案協商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/18.wav",
        "text": "行政院函請審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/19.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/20.wav",
        "text": "法草案進行黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/21.wav",
        "text": "是不是先請逕付二讀的行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/22.wav",
        "text": "提案代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/23.wav",
        "text": "說明我們請內政部部長先做提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/24.wav",
        "text": "說明請部長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/25.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/26.wav",
        "text": "給我們行政院新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/27.wav",
        "text": "版本有一點說明的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/28.wav",
        "text": "各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/29.wav",
        "text": "我很簡單地報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/30.wav",
        "text": "行政院院會通過的新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/31.wav",
        "text": "\n為落實憲法保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/32.wav",
        "text": "多元文化的精神跟宣示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/33.wav",
        "text": "政府維護新住民權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/34.wav",
        "text": "行政院院會在6月21日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/35.wav",
        "text": "通過新住民權益保障法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/36.wav",
        "text": "草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/37.wav",
        "text": "本草案總共有19條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/38.wav",
        "text": "將新住民定義擴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/39.wav",
        "text": "及各國來臺居留的專業人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/40.wav",
        "text": "技術移民及投資移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/41.wav",
        "text": "也將設置專責單位來推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/42.wav",
        "text": "各項工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/43.wav",
        "text": "預計受益的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/44.wav",
        "text": "會超過100萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/45.wav",
        "text": "\n我國的婚姻移民已經超越"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/46.wav",
        "text": "60萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/47.wav",
        "text": "不僅為我國帶來多元的文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/48.wav",
        "text": "在家庭社會經濟各方面也貢獻良多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/49.wav",
        "text": "他們的子女們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/50.wav",
        "text": "也有很多傑出的表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/51.wav",
        "text": "為了落實賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/52.wav",
        "text": "照顧新住民權益的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/53.wav",
        "text": "完善新住民相關政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/54.wav",
        "text": "以專法專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/55.wav",
        "text": "進一步提升新住民的權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/56.wav",
        "text": "\n本次制定專法目的在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/57.wav",
        "text": "新住民設籍成為國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/58.wav",
        "text": "之前能有完善的權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/59.wav",
        "text": "至於成為國人之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/60.wav",
        "text": "也希望他們能夠融入在地的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/61.wav",
        "text": "認同臺灣成為臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/62.wav",
        "text": "所以草案的名稱為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/63.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/64.wav",
        "text": "此外本次法案的亮點在於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/65.wav",
        "text": "擴大新住民的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/66.wav",
        "text": "宣示政府歡迎世界各地的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/67.wav",
        "text": "專業人士技術移民投資移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/68.wav",
        "text": "到臺灣來共同打拼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/69.wav",
        "text": "期望這些移民家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/70.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣長居久住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/71.wav",
        "text": "最終成為我國的公民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/72.wav",
        "text": "\n在亞洲國家當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/73.wav",
        "text": "韓國對於外國人事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/74.wav",
        "text": "設有外國人政策委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/75.wav",
        "text": "日本設有定住外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/76.wav",
        "text": "施策推進會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/77.wav",
        "text": "跟我國現行體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/78.wav",
        "text": "上面的作法及功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/79.wav",
        "text": "行政院通過了權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/80.wav",
        "text": "會將現行行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/81.wav",
        "text": "法制化未來將進一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/82.wav",
        "text": "朝向提升層級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/83.wav",
        "text": "尤其會在內政部設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/84.wav",
        "text": "專責單位跟各級地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/85.wav",
        "text": "政府統籌規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/86.wav",
        "text": "推動新住民事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/87.wav",
        "text": "至於人員編制跟預算現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/88.wav",
        "text": "在跟相關機關共同研商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/89.wav",
        "text": "\n本法案一共有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/90.wav",
        "text": "19條裡面的5大重點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/91.wav",
        "text": "第一擴大新住民定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/92.wav",
        "text": "─涵蓋更多的專業人士技術移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/93.wav",
        "text": "投資移民其取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/94.wav",
        "text": "我國國籍3年內均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/95.wav",
        "text": "屬之並且促進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/96.wav",
        "text": "多元文化的融合跟發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/97.wav",
        "text": "第二設立專責單位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/98.wav",
        "text": "─移民事務涉及的有教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/99.wav",
        "text": "勞動醫療文化等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/100.wav",
        "text": "層面未來將研議設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/101.wav",
        "text": "專責單位統籌規劃新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/102.wav",
        "text": "相關事務第三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/103.wav",
        "text": "設置新住民事務協調會報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/104.wav",
        "text": "─將現行的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/105.wav",
        "text": "會報法制化未來也會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/106.wav",
        "text": "研議提升層級跟功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/107.wav",
        "text": "第四設置新住民發展"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/108.wav",
        "text": "基金─除了各級政府要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/109.wav",
        "text": "編列預算之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/110.wav",
        "text": "推動辦理新住民家庭各項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/111.wav",
        "text": "照顧服務的事項如果有需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/112.wav",
        "text": "亦可以向基金來申請補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/113.wav",
        "text": "第五維護新住民權益措施"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/114.wav",
        "text": "─政府多年以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/115.wav",
        "text": "權益方面包括生活的適應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/116.wav",
        "text": "生育的保健就業的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/117.wav",
        "text": "人身安全等一共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/118.wav",
        "text": "有八大照顧服務措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/119.wav",
        "text": "在確保新住民各項權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/120.wav",
        "text": "只會越多跟越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/121.wav",
        "text": "在6月21日通過的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/122.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法提供給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/123.wav",
        "text": "各位委員參考同時在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/124.wav",
        "text": "前幾次內政委員會已經討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/125.wav",
        "text": "保留的條文總共"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/126.wav",
        "text": "有9個條次希望就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/127.wav",
        "text": "保留的條文可以再跟各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/128.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法可以在這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/129.wav",
        "text": "會期完成三讀的話我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/130.wav",
        "text": "對於很多新住民權益的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/131.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/132.wav",
        "text": "協商會議在6月12日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/133.wav",
        "text": "主持內政委員會第23次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/134.wav",
        "text": "全體委員會議完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/135.wav",
        "text": "我們有要求內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/136.wav",
        "text": "還有相關的主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/137.wav",
        "text": "在提出行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/138.wav",
        "text": "會通過的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/139.wav",
        "text": "還有它的保留條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/140.wav",
        "text": "需要全面地檢視來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/141.wav",
        "text": "參考然後再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/142.wav",
        "text": "函送本院審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/143.wav",
        "text": "避免浪費無謂的勞力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/144.wav",
        "text": "時間還有費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/145.wav",
        "text": "\n現在行政院的提案版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/146.wav",
        "text": "已經經過院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/147.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀並且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/148.wav",
        "text": "與內政委員會完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/149.wav",
        "text": "審查的版本併案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/150.wav",
        "text": "交付黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/151.wav",
        "text": "為了節省各位黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/152.wav",
        "text": "集中討論焦點來提升"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/153.wav",
        "text": "法案的協商效率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/154.wav",
        "text": "本次的協商為了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/155.wav",
        "text": "維持本法草案立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/156.wav",
        "text": "體系的完整性我建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/157.wav",
        "text": "用行政院提案的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/158.wav",
        "text": "順序為本次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/159.wav",
        "text": "協商討論的基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/160.wav",
        "text": "然後我們再來配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/161.wav",
        "text": "對照審查會審查通過"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/162.wav",
        "text": "或者是保留的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/163.wav",
        "text": "依序來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/164.wav",
        "text": "最後我們全案採用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/165.wav",
        "text": "協商條文的立法體例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/166.wav",
        "text": "進行二三讀的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/167.wav",
        "text": "或者是請我們的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/168.wav",
        "text": "再召開一次朝野協商好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/169.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/170.wav",
        "text": "主席辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/171.wav",
        "text": "在要進入協商之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/172.wav",
        "text": "我想我還是要講個話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/173.wav",
        "text": "應該有注意到昨天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/174.wav",
        "text": "有十幾個民團包含了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/175.wav",
        "text": "新住民新二代專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/176.wav",
        "text": "學者及人權團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/177.wav",
        "text": "在立法院召開了一個記者會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/178.wav",
        "text": "要求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/179.wav",
        "text": "因為民團認為各個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/180.wav",
        "text": "包含行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/181.wav",
        "text": "他們其實有很多的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/182.wav",
        "text": "他們覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/183.wav",
        "text": "新住民專法的提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/184.wav",
        "text": "沒有跟社會有充分的對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/185.wav",
        "text": "\n我想立法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/186.wav",
        "text": "應該要有民意的基礎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/187.wav",
        "text": "符合人民的期待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/188.wav",
        "text": "看來這一次要在這個會期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/189.wav",
        "text": "來快速地通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/190.wav",
        "text": "並不符合新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/191.wav",
        "text": "跟新二代的期待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/192.wav",
        "text": "尤其是今天我還看到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/193.wav",
        "text": "有新住民二代在媒體投書"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/194.wav",
        "text": "像這些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/195.wav",
        "text": "民意我們不能不去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/196.wav",
        "text": "重視它"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/197.wav",
        "text": "我想大家是不是應該要來討論一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/198.wav",
        "text": "所以本席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/199.wav",
        "text": "這兩天其實都很關注"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/200.wav",
        "text": "新住民團體的一些意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/201.wav",
        "text": "我在想說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/202.wav",
        "text": "要在這個會期通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/203.wav",
        "text": "似乎不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/204.wav",
        "text": "他們的期望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/205.wav",
        "text": "好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/206.wav",
        "text": "請巧慧委員再請麥玉珍委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/207.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/208.wav",
        "text": "就是要請你發表意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/209.wav",
        "text": "啦我的意見就是要請你發表意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/210.wav",
        "text": "確實我們昨天也都看到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/211.wav",
        "text": "確實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/212.wav",
        "text": "有提出了他們的意見"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/213.wav",
        "text": "認為他們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/214.wav",
        "text": "忽然間感受到這個法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/215.wav",
        "text": "快馬加鞭要通過了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/216.wav",
        "text": "覺得他們的意見還沒有足夠的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/217.wav",
        "text": "被呈現被保留被討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/218.wav",
        "text": "被重視被聆聽"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/219.wav",
        "text": "所以在這樣的狀況下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/220.wav",
        "text": "提出意見希望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/221.wav",
        "text": "不要那麼快完成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/222.wav",
        "text": "如果事緩則圓是一種常態的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/223.wav",
        "text": "我覺得今天這個問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/224.wav",
        "text": "等於是我們協商一開始的程序問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/225.wav",
        "text": "是不是請主席"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/226.wav",
        "text": "也可以讓大家"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/227.wav",
        "text": "不只是政府部門"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/228.wav",
        "text": "也講了包括我們現在在討論的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/229.wav",
        "text": "立法院成員中的不同黨團"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/230.wav",
        "text": "到底還要不要這麼快審"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/231.wav",
        "text": "剛剛美玲委員比較像是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/232.wav",
        "text": "民進黨團這邊的意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/233.wav",
        "text": "至少大多數昨天開會的人的意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/234.wav",
        "text": "是希望他們的聲音被聽到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/235.wav",
        "text": "看看其他人是不是也要表示意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/236.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/237.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員關心這個議題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/238.wav",
        "text": "對我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/239.wav",
        "text": "不是沒有討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/240.wav",
        "text": "也不是沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/241.wav",
        "text": "不是我們提出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/242.wav",
        "text": "蟬也提過新住民基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/243.wav",
        "text": "也辦過公聽會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/244.wav",
        "text": "也辦過全國"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/245.wav",
        "text": "新住民新二代的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/246.wav",
        "text": "座談會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/247.wav",
        "text": "新住民信賴臺灣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/248.wav",
        "text": "新住民新二代的座談會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/249.wav",
        "text": "才會有這個版本出來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/250.wav",
        "text": "吧如果沒有針對大家的需求"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/251.wav",
        "text": "不會有這些版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/252.wav",
        "text": "沒有參與"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/253.wav",
        "text": "的這群團體"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/254.wav",
        "text": "他們都有來參加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/255.wav",
        "text": "我們的公聽會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/256.wav",
        "text": "我不是沒有邀請"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/257.wav",
        "text": "但是他們有的因為時間關係沒來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/258.wav",
        "text": "有的有來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/259.wav",
        "text": "他們都有代表來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/260.wav",
        "text": "成立後移民署要辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/261.wav",
        "text": "100次座談會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/262.wav",
        "text": "怎樣去執行都沒問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/263.wav",
        "text": "所以不是沒有談"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/264.wav",
        "text": "而是每一個人的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/265.wav",
        "text": "意見不同每一個人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/266.wav",
        "text": "有自己的想法也給我們建議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/267.wav",
        "text": "他們開記者會後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/268.wav",
        "text": "很多建議他們不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/269.wav",
        "text": "是他們希望有些建議"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/270.wav",
        "text": "我說就算你不開記者會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/271.wav",
        "text": "我也找你們討論了我們也"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/272.wav",
        "text": "建立群組來討論他們也"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/273.wav",
        "text": "給我們很多的建議我們也有去改"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/274.wav",
        "text": "他們開這個記者會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/275.wav",
        "text": "是不是針對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/276.wav",
        "text": "院版我們也不知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/277.wav",
        "text": "他的用意是什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/278.wav",
        "text": "每一個"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/279.wav",
        "text": "人的聲音都有納入"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/280.wav",
        "text": "有民間團體的聲音"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/281.wav",
        "text": "也有新住民的聲音"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/282.wav",
        "text": "也有新二代的聲音也有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/283.wav",
        "text": "專家學者的聲音還有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/284.wav",
        "text": "我們的公聽會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/285.wav",
        "text": "政府機構差不多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/286.wav",
        "text": "就30個出席大家"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/287.wav",
        "text": "有很完整的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/288.wav",
        "text": "沒有討論我們要的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/289.wav",
        "text": "如何去推動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/290.wav",
        "text": "未來的發展才是重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/291.wav",
        "text": "的我們先求有再求好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/292.wav",
        "text": "大家之所以有意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/293.wav",
        "text": "所以未來做得更好才是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/294.wav",
        "text": "我們想要的目標"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/295.wav",
        "text": "請王美惠委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/296.wav",
        "text": "主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/297.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會修的每個法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/298.wav",
        "text": "做得更好所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/299.wav",
        "text": "有人參加有人沒參"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/300.wav",
        "text": "並不是說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/301.wav",
        "text": "他們的煩惱與擔憂"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/302.wav",
        "text": "可以把一個法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/303.wav",
        "text": "都滿意是不可能"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/304.wav",
        "text": "他的意見能夠"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/305.wav",
        "text": "充分反映在我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/306.wav",
        "text": "修法裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/307.wav",
        "text": "雖然我是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/308.wav",
        "text": "臺灣人你們是新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/309.wav",
        "text": "的權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/310.wav",
        "text": "到昨天他們在記者會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/311.wav",
        "text": "表達"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/312.wav",
        "text": "也不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/313.wav",
        "text": "說他們過度擔憂這"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/314.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/315.wav",
        "text": "所以今天"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/316.wav",
        "text": "是不是發言過的委員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/317.wav",
        "text": "就儘量不要在第一輪再發言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/318.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛看了一下相關的新聞露出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/319.wav",
        "text": "我想透過協商的機制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/320.wav",
        "text": "把這些修法訴求納入也未嘗不是一種解決的辦法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/321.wav",
        "text": "我剛才搜尋大概有三個"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/322.wav",
        "text": "比較大的方向"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/323.wav",
        "text": "第一個是滿多人要求專責機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/324.wav",
        "text": "我們也要求專責機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/325.wav",
        "text": "啊我非常支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/326.wav",
        "text": "啊\n當然最好今天就有結論有專責機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/327.wav",
        "text": "這個大的問題就解決了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/328.wav",
        "text": "基本上都是以基本法的邏輯去通過的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/329.wav",
        "text": "法但是基本法先走"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/330.wav",
        "text": "相關的細節和執行的配套"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/331.wav",
        "text": "透過子法的方式去完善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/332.wav",
        "text": "總要先有宣示意義的東西出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/333.wav",
        "text": "實質上可以進步的我們再一步一步往前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/334.wav",
        "text": "第三他們講藍領移工要納入我非常支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/335.wav",
        "text": "啊有什麼不行的呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/336.wav",
        "text": "既然白領移工有納入藍領移工不納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/337.wav",
        "text": "好像有點差別對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/338.wav",
        "text": "有點歧視的味道非常同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/339.wav",
        "text": "那就一起納入一起照顧也沒什麼不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/340.wav",
        "text": "本來一套邏輯叫作定居為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/341.wav",
        "text": "也就是我本來就是來住的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/342.wav",
        "text": "包含婚姻子女等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/343.wav",
        "text": "我一定是住在臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/344.wav",
        "text": "另外一套是我暫時來就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/345.wav",
        "text": "就學包含移工留學生等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/346.wav",
        "text": "你這兩套邏輯可以做納入或不納入的政策取捨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/347.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們剛才討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/348.wav",
        "text": "也覺得這有盲點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/349.wav",
        "text": "對藍領移工不好好像不太公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/350.wav",
        "text": "既然都來而且不管藍領白領其實也都長時間待在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/351.wav",
        "text": "那就乾脆把他納入給予一定的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/352.wav",
        "text": "讓他有更完善的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/353.wav",
        "text": "也未嘗不可啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/354.wav",
        "text": "進步的主張我們在野黨非常支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/355.wav",
        "text": "也兼顧了大家比較進步的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/356.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝牛煦庭委員的補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/357.wav",
        "text": "張宏陸委員也到了現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/358.wav",
        "text": "第一輪針對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/359.wav",
        "text": "大家都提出非常寶貴的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/360.wav",
        "text": "聽聽看召委的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/361.wav",
        "text": "就剛剛麥玉珍委員所講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/362.wav",
        "text": "的歷屆新住民委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/363.wav",
        "text": "其實都在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/364.wav",
        "text": "也開過很多的公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/365.wav",
        "text": "8會期也當過召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/366.wav",
        "text": "也有她的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/367.wav",
        "text": "也開過公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/368.wav",
        "text": "比較遺憾的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/369.wav",
        "text": "羅美玲當召委的時候並沒有排案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/370.wav",
        "text": "版這就是我接著要來講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/371.wav",
        "text": "分別排了兩次審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/372.wav",
        "text": "我們總共有17個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/373.wav",
        "text": "大家非常認真非常努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/374.wav",
        "text": "的審法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/375.wav",
        "text": "我們僅僅保留了9條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/376.wav",
        "text": "這9條大概是比較重要的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/377.wav",
        "text": "有進展行政院也推出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/378.wav",
        "text": "也就是說從以前到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/379.wav",
        "text": "不管叫作權益法也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/380.wav",
        "text": "基本法也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/381.wav",
        "text": "走了很長一段路程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/382.wav",
        "text": "好不容易今天大家的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/383.wav",
        "text": "各位委員的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/384.wav",
        "text": "還有行政院願意提出版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/385.wav",
        "text": "已經走到了現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/386.wav",
        "text": "縱使有很多不同的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/387.wav",
        "text": "我覺得都可以被討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/388.wav",
        "text": "身為召委的我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/389.wav",
        "text": "今天暫停審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/390.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我沒有立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/391.wav",
        "text": "我也對不起那麼努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/392.wav",
        "text": "提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/393.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/394.wav",
        "text": "所以召委我今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/395.wav",
        "text": "還是下結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/396.wav",
        "text": "我們今天還是來審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/397.wav",
        "text": "這個法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/398.wav",
        "text": "有任何一個問題我們在逐條的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/399.wav",
        "text": "如果有問題我們就保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/400.wav",
        "text": "我覺得好不容易走到今天這一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/401.wav",
        "text": "非常多廣大的新住民朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/402.wav",
        "text": "其實都在等待跟期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/403.wav",
        "text": "這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/404.wav",
        "text": "當然一部法沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/405.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都如意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/406.wav",
        "text": "但是怎樣來取得共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/407.wav",
        "text": "然後加快進程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/408.wav",
        "text": "來服務到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/409.wav",
        "text": "\n我再宣讀一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/410.wav",
        "text": "有關本法協商條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/411.wav",
        "text": "的立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/412.wav",
        "text": "請內政部彙整之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/413.wav",
        "text": "送本席及各黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/414.wav",
        "text": "協商代表檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/415.wav",
        "text": "無意見之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/416.wav",
        "text": "列入協商結論的附件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/417.wav",
        "text": "並且刊登公報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/418.wav",
        "text": "\n請問各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/419.wav",
        "text": "有沒有異議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/420.wav",
        "text": "沒有異議的話我們就按照上述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/421.wav",
        "text": "大家辛苦一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/422.wav",
        "text": "條文的審查\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/423.wav",
        "text": "我們第1條當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/424.wav",
        "text": "就是最重要的法案名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/425.wav",
        "text": "第1條就面臨到很大的挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/426.wav",
        "text": "就是法案名稱的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/427.wav",
        "text": "法案名稱在行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/428.wav",
        "text": "的版本是新住民權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/429.wav",
        "text": "委員會當時審查的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/430.wav",
        "text": "黨團提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/431.wav",
        "text": "黨團和國民黨黨團的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/432.wav",
        "text": "法案名稱都叫新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/433.wav",
        "text": "羅美玲王美惠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/434.wav",
        "text": "等提案的法案名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/435.wav",
        "text": "張智倫蘇巧慧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/436.wav",
        "text": "新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/437.wav",
        "text": "就先按照各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/438.wav",
        "text": "的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/439.wav",
        "text": "來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/440.wav",
        "text": "法案名稱請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/441.wav",
        "text": "各位委員有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/442.wav",
        "text": "都比較堅持新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/443.wav",
        "text": "基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/444.wav",
        "text": "對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/445.wav",
        "text": "張宏陸委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/446.wav",
        "text": "召委各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/447.wav",
        "text": "其實我們要保障新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/448.wav",
        "text": "的權利大家都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/449.wav",
        "text": "目標一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/450.wav",
        "text": "不過什麼都用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/451.wav",
        "text": "基本法我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/452.wav",
        "text": "有點怪怪的而且新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/453.wav",
        "text": "的身分不是永遠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/454.wav",
        "text": "都是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/455.wav",
        "text": "如果是我們要保障他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/456.wav",
        "text": "他有一天就會成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/457.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/458.wav",
        "text": "我覺得全世界的法例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/459.wav",
        "text": "移民法等等都沒有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/460.wav",
        "text": "用基本法去做這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/461.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/462.wav",
        "text": "我們不要糾結在名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/463.wav",
        "text": "但是要符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/464.wav",
        "text": "身分是短暫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/465.wav",
        "text": "他有一天一定會拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/466.wav",
        "text": "中華民國的身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/467.wav",
        "text": "除非他不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/468.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話我們應該是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/469.wav",
        "text": "權益保障我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/470.wav",
        "text": "比較適當不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/471.wav",
        "text": "有點怪怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/472.wav",
        "text": "你看全世界也沒有人這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/473.wav",
        "text": "要表明一下我的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/474.wav",
        "text": "請王美惠委員然後接著麥玉珍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/475.wav",
        "text": "委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/476.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/477.wav",
        "text": "我們在這短暫的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/478.wav",
        "text": "都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/479.wav",
        "text": "遇到問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/480.wav",
        "text": "要如何給予協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/481.wav",
        "text": "他來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/482.wav",
        "text": "時還沒拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/483.wav",
        "text": "要如何保障他的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/484.wav",
        "text": "所以本席覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/485.wav",
        "text": "席覺得用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/486.wav",
        "text": "比較適當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/487.wav",
        "text": "我們是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/488.wav",
        "text": "精神和政策的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/489.wav",
        "text": "因為基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/490.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼叫作怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/491.wav",
        "text": "因為客家有基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/492.wav",
        "text": "原住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/493.wav",
        "text": "交通也有基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/494.wav",
        "text": "有一個基本的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/495.wav",
        "text": "有一個母法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/496.wav",
        "text": "我們再來有子法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/497.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們才有依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/498.wav",
        "text": "來設其他作用法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/499.wav",
        "text": "你需要這個我就撒一點錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/500.wav",
        "text": "這邊修那邊修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/501.wav",
        "text": "到最後真的浪費資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/502.wav",
        "text": "我們希望資源整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/503.wav",
        "text": "沒有依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/504.wav",
        "text": "一個基本法才會這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/505.wav",
        "text": "最重要明確的政策走向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/506.wav",
        "text": "就是基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/507.wav",
        "text": "是有必要設法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/508.wav",
        "text": "就像一串粽子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/509.wav",
        "text": "你要有一個頭後面要怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/510.wav",
        "text": "大家以這個依據各部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/511.wav",
        "text": "這才是我們想要走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/512.wav",
        "text": "請羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/513.wav",
        "text": "從法律層面來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/514.wav",
        "text": "很多委員提到的它需要配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/515.wav",
        "text": "你要修原住民身分法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/516.wav",
        "text": "你要修原住民族委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/517.wav",
        "text": "組織法等等你必須要有其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/518.wav",
        "text": "子法來完善法律的體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/519.wav",
        "text": "那是不是說我們以後還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/520.wav",
        "text": "修新住民身分法我們還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/521.wav",
        "text": "等等才能夠來進行這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/522.wav",
        "text": "可以立即去執行這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/523.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/524.wav",
        "text": "我想行政單位應該也是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/525.wav",
        "text": "我想昨天很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/526.wav",
        "text": "就是條文內容不夠具體的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/527.wav",
        "text": "條文之所以不夠具體不就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/528.wav",
        "text": "當初大部分的提案委員其實是用基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/529.wav",
        "text": "的邏輯來立這部法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/530.wav",
        "text": "內政委員會經過了討論大概也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/531.wav",
        "text": "我剛看了一下院版條文大部分的條文其實跟我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/532.wav",
        "text": "審查通過的條文所差無幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/533.wav",
        "text": "其實那也是基本法的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/534.wav",
        "text": "既然是走基本法的邏輯基本法先行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/535.wav",
        "text": "啊沒有什麼不支持的因為本來就應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/536.wav",
        "text": "用這樣的方式處理要不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/537.wav",
        "text": "推翻重來你要針對很多的細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/538.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統推動新住民友善政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/539.wav",
        "text": "方面難道不會又是一個空轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/540.wav",
        "text": "的四年嗎這是我們擔心的事情\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/541.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是至少宣示性基本的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/542.wav",
        "text": "拉出來後面馬上我們再逐條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/543.wav",
        "text": "每一年每一年或每半年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/544.wav",
        "text": "每半年讓新住民保障一步一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/545.wav",
        "text": "來落實我覺得這是一條比較務實可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/546.wav",
        "text": "的條文內容以基本法為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/547.wav",
        "text": "院版第一次正式提出在大家桌子上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/548.wav",
        "text": "為止還是新住民權益保障法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/549.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/550.wav",
        "text": "以及他們現在的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/551.wav",
        "text": "行政院所提的權益保障"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/552.wav",
        "text": "在解釋的時候有特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/553.wav",
        "text": "提到我們認為權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/554.wav",
        "text": "的作用比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/555.wav",
        "text": "也就是說大家都了解基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/556.wav",
        "text": "各個權責機關在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/557.wav",
        "text": "政策上遵守這是屬於綱"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/558.wav",
        "text": "領性的規定的話可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/559.wav",
        "text": "基本法之後還要制定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/560.wav",
        "text": "其他相關的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/561.wav",
        "text": "案不是子法是法律"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/562.wav",
        "text": "在當事人特定權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/563.wav",
        "text": "上面還是用其他的作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/564.wav",
        "text": "法來規定所以定位上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/565.wav",
        "text": "不一定比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/566.wav",
        "text": "十二條甚至到第十三條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/567.wav",
        "text": "裡面如果各位委員可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/568.wav",
        "text": "我們在第10條裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/569.wav",
        "text": "已經把8個主要的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/570.wav",
        "text": "包括生活適應輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/571.wav",
        "text": "醫療生育保健"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/572.wav",
        "text": "就業權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/573.wav",
        "text": "子女教養人身安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/574.wav",
        "text": "健全法令制度和落實觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/575.wav",
        "text": "宣導這些相關措施包括"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/576.wav",
        "text": "新住民跟其子女在臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/577.wav",
        "text": "都把它明定在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/578.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/579.wav",
        "text": "了前兩次在內政委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/580.wav",
        "text": "通過的原來審查會通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/581.wav",
        "text": "版本第十一條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/582.wav",
        "text": "我們再把它完善的配備"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/583.wav",
        "text": "出來也就是說它具有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/584.wav",
        "text": "同時專責單位的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/585.wav",
        "text": "第一在行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/586.wav",
        "text": "一個專責的單位之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/587.wav",
        "text": "我們未來也會要求各級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/588.wav",
        "text": "政府其實各級政府就包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/589.wav",
        "text": "各級的地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/590.wav",
        "text": "地方政府也要根據我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/591.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法設定剛剛我所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/592.wav",
        "text": "功能包括語言服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/593.wav",
        "text": "就是我剛所說的第10條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/594.wav",
        "text": "第十一條第十二條和其他的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/595.wav",
        "text": "條次所以我們已經把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/596.wav",
        "text": "協商過程中我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/597.wav",
        "text": "怎樣補強在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/598.wav",
        "text": "權益保障方面把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/599.wav",
        "text": "放到我們的條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/600.wav",
        "text": "的時候也是希望可以按照行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/601.wav",
        "text": "提案條文更能夠把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/602.wav",
        "text": "整個體系更完善來制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/603.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/604.wav",
        "text": "召委有一點想法大家思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/605.wav",
        "text": "基本法最主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/606.wav",
        "text": "要的是有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/607.wav",
        "text": "重要事務的原則性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/608.wav",
        "text": "方向的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/609.wav",
        "text": "同時基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/610.wav",
        "text": "多用於確定施政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/611.wav",
        "text": "的方向再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/612.wav",
        "text": "再依據基本法的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/613.wav",
        "text": "制定各種不同的子法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/614.wav",
        "text": "具有統合各機關目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/615.wav",
        "text": "和手段的作用如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/616.wav",
        "text": "一開始這個法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/617.wav",
        "text": "可以指定政策的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/618.wav",
        "text": "其實我認為也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/619.wav",
        "text": "避免掉很多行政資源的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/620.wav",
        "text": "浪費就如同客家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/621.wav",
        "text": "基本法也如同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/622.wav",
        "text": "原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/623.wav",
        "text": "新住民真正的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/624.wav",
        "text": "它的重要性是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/625.wav",
        "text": "如果大家認為它很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/626.wav",
        "text": "它必須要有一個基本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/627.wav",
        "text": "方針和大方向的走向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/628.wav",
        "text": "叫作新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/629.wav",
        "text": "大架構之後我們才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/630.wav",
        "text": "在各部會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/631.wav",
        "text": "不同的法和條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/632.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/633.wav",
        "text": "現在已經有這麼多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/634.wav",
        "text": "新住民人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/635.wav",
        "text": "比原住民還高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/636.wav",
        "text": "蔡英文總統也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/637.wav",
        "text": "對新住民的權益其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/638.wav",
        "text": "政府對於新住民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/639.wav",
        "text": "這麼重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/640.wav",
        "text": "我認為就應該要有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/641.wav",
        "text": "非常基本的大方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/642.wav",
        "text": "所說的我也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/643.wav",
        "text": "這個大方向明定了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/644.wav",
        "text": "才會有下面這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/645.wav",
        "text": "朋友提出現在的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/646.wav",
        "text": "好像不夠完善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/647.wav",
        "text": "當然基本法本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/648.wav",
        "text": "接著下來才會有更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/649.wav",
        "text": "執行落實的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/650.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/651.wav",
        "text": "如果用新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/652.wav",
        "text": "比較妥當一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/653.wav",
        "text": "主席我們問一下行政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/654.wav",
        "text": "不夠詳細是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/655.wav",
        "text": "請部長補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/656.wav",
        "text": "王美惠委員覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/657.wav",
        "text": "如果名稱叫基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/658.wav",
        "text": "對你們裡面所有法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/659.wav",
        "text": "會有窒礙難行的部分嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/660.wav",
        "text": "是什麼否則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/661.wav",
        "text": "今天討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/662.wav",
        "text": "大家可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/663.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/664.wav",
        "text": "以討論基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/665.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛已經舉到客家基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/666.wav",
        "text": "和原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/667.wav",
        "text": "甚至交通基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/668.wav",
        "text": "我們也花了很多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/669.wav",
        "text": "現在在交通的問題上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/670.wav",
        "text": "其實以現行的道路交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/671.wav",
        "text": "管理處罰條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/672.wav",
        "text": "繼續施行就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/673.wav",
        "text": "也可以做也可以執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/674.wav",
        "text": "可是我們在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/675.wav",
        "text": "就是希望有一個明確規定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/676.wav",
        "text": "政策走向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/677.wav",
        "text": "所以有交通基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/678.wav",
        "text": "也制定公布了通訊傳播"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/679.wav",
        "text": "基本法裡面也包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/680.wav",
        "text": "要設置通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/681.wav",
        "text": "不管是通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/682.wav",
        "text": "基本法也就是政策的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/683.wav",
        "text": "我就不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/684.wav",
        "text": "部長你們對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/685.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法和新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/686.wav",
        "text": "基本法尤其是法案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/687.wav",
        "text": "名稱基本法對你們未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/688.wav",
        "text": "時有什麼窒礙難行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/689.wav",
        "text": "或者權益有什麼不一樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/690.wav",
        "text": "有他們的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/691.wav",
        "text": "客家族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/692.wav",
        "text": "就是中華民國的國民一輩子"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/693.wav",
        "text": "從出生到離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/694.wav",
        "text": "我們對新住民第一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/695.wav",
        "text": "這是文化上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/696.wav",
        "text": "語言上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/697.wav",
        "text": "他一輩子會文化上認同他是新住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/698.wav",
        "text": "可是在我們新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/699.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法是說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/700.wav",
        "text": "他到臺灣來取得正式的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/701.wav",
        "text": "居留權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/702.wav",
        "text": "和他變成有中華民國國籍的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/703.wav",
        "text": "大概3年之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/704.wav",
        "text": "政府機關包括中央和地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/705.wav",
        "text": "政府來照顧他我們需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/706.wav",
        "text": "權益保障在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/707.wav",
        "text": "所以其實是定義上面的不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/708.wav",
        "text": "我們不再爭執"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/709.wav",
        "text": "這是叫基本法或權益保障法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/710.wav",
        "text": "提出剛剛所說的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/711.wav",
        "text": "召委能夠同意以行政院的版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/712.wav",
        "text": "還是希望如果在定義上面能夠維持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/713.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/714.wav",
        "text": "要求其他部會配合的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/715.wav",
        "text": "會比較好處理相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/716.wav",
        "text": "謝主席我剛查了一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/717.wav",
        "text": "客家基本法上路之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/718.wav",
        "text": "大概有幾個相關的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/719.wav",
        "text": "法條和辦法第一個是客家委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/720.wav",
        "text": "對COVID-19"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/721.wav",
        "text": "辦法這個是特例我們就不管它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/722.wav",
        "text": "再來是客家知識體系發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/723.wav",
        "text": "獎勵補助辦法客語為通行語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/724.wav",
        "text": "實施辦法客語能力認證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/725.wav",
        "text": "以下學校及幼兒園客語師資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/726.wav",
        "text": "培訓資格及聘用辦法客語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/727.wav",
        "text": "語言教學獎勵辦法這些其實都是行政命令"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/728.wav",
        "text": "換言之你說基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/729.wav",
        "text": "下面的子法很多其實是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/730.wav",
        "text": "可以透過行政命令的方式來處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/731.wav",
        "text": "也不是每件事情都要送到立法院來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/732.wav",
        "text": "唯一一個有條例的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/733.wav",
        "text": "財團法人客家公共傳播基金會設置"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/734.wav",
        "text": "條例比較大的事情大家就"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/735.wav",
        "text": "來專門立法例如"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/736.wav",
        "text": "我們討論很多條文例如"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/737.wav",
        "text": "家庭照顧輔導服務語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/738.wav",
        "text": "未來的專責機關直接來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/739.wav",
        "text": "訂定辦法這樣法案可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/740.wav",
        "text": "案可以往前走也有實際處理方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/741.wav",
        "text": "還是比較有效率的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/742.wav",
        "text": "應該用基本法的方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/743.wav",
        "text": "請張宏陸委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/744.wav",
        "text": "謝謝其實剛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/745.wav",
        "text": "剛召委所說的我也認同不過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/746.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊還是要跟所有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/747.wav",
        "text": "委員說一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/748.wav",
        "text": "我們如果是訂基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/749.wav",
        "text": "全世界100多個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/750.wav",
        "text": "國家所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/751.wav",
        "text": "但我們如果只是把它"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/752.wav",
        "text": "中國東南亞我覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/753.wav",
        "text": "好像OK但是如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/754.wav",
        "text": "基本法全世界100多個國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/755.wav",
        "text": "的國家包括很多人種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/756.wav",
        "text": "這些本席覺得這一點大家要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/757.wav",
        "text": "思考一下我們這個法令"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/758.wav",
        "text": "世界任何一個人都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/759.wav",
        "text": "適用我們必須要思考"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/760.wav",
        "text": "這一點和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/761.wav",
        "text": "和大家說一下本席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/762.wav",
        "text": "席的考量好謝謝宏陸委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/763.wav",
        "text": "大陸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/764.wav",
        "text": "委員會法政處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/765.wav",
        "text": "召委和各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/766.wav",
        "text": "提到的基本法或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/767.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法大方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/768.wav",
        "text": "當然基本法最主要的除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/769.wav",
        "text": "召委剛剛提到的是政策性原則性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/770.wav",
        "text": "綱領性的宣示以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/771.wav",
        "text": "在中華民國訂定的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/772.wav",
        "text": "裡面因為大家都了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/773.wav",
        "text": "法律和法律之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/774.wav",
        "text": "有時候會出現不一致的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/775.wav",
        "text": "所以有時候會有所謂的特別法和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/776.wav",
        "text": "普通法特別法要優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/777.wav",
        "text": "適用\n但是在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/778.wav",
        "text": "國家的法律體系裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/779.wav",
        "text": "只要是基本法永遠是最優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/780.wav",
        "text": "的所以假設今天我們通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/781.wav",
        "text": "叫做新住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/782.wav",
        "text": "代表有一天如果國內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/783.wav",
        "text": "其他法律和這個法律衝突的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/784.wav",
        "text": "其他的法律都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/785.wav",
        "text": "要退位它是最優先適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/786.wav",
        "text": "這在我們的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/787.wav",
        "text": "實務還有將來法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/788.wav",
        "text": "要適用這個法律的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/789.wav",
        "text": "只要基本法定了這個內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/790.wav",
        "text": "所有的作用法都必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/791.wav",
        "text": "略遜於它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/792.wav",
        "text": "\n我舉個例子現在勞動基準法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/793.wav",
        "text": "所定的勞動條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/794.wav",
        "text": "都不能再違背它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/795.wav",
        "text": "它就是最基本的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/796.wav",
        "text": "只能比它更好不能比它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/797.wav",
        "text": "各位委員也了解兩岸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/798.wav",
        "text": "的情況比較特殊敏感一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/799.wav",
        "text": "兩岸條例也有一些比較"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/800.wav",
        "text": "特殊性的規定所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/801.wav",
        "text": "陸委會也希望各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/802.wav",
        "text": "能夠支持我們儘量朝權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/803.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/804.wav",
        "text": "訂定這樣可以保留一個空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/805.wav",
        "text": "報告完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/806.wav",
        "text": "周處長對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/807.wav",
        "text": "本席必須以自己在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/808.wav",
        "text": "一直用到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/809.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛說它是最上位的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/810.wav",
        "text": "各部會並沒有把它當作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/811.wav",
        "text": "最上位的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/812.wav",
        "text": "當出現一些競合問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/813.wav",
        "text": "主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/814.wav",
        "text": "還是有他們的看法最後是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/815.wav",
        "text": "意見所以並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/816.wav",
        "text": "你說的這麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/817.wav",
        "text": "\n原住民基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/818.wav",
        "text": "通過之後它是最上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/819.wav",
        "text": "位的法優先於其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/820.wav",
        "text": "法但事實上並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/821.wav",
        "text": "你想像的這麼恐怖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/822.wav",
        "text": "也沒有你說的那麼誇大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/823.wav",
        "text": "好不好因為原住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/824.wav",
        "text": "用到現在已經那麼久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/825.wav",
        "text": "身為原住民立法委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/826.wav",
        "text": "所以本席沒有辦法接受你這樣的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/827.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n請牛煦庭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/828.wav",
        "text": "他剛剛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/829.wav",
        "text": "所有的法律都不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/830.wav",
        "text": "它其實這就呼應我們之前討論的一些內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/831.wav",
        "text": "都是方向性的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/832.wav",
        "text": "我們如果連方向性的東西都不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/833.wav",
        "text": "確保它的價值和意義的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/834.wav",
        "text": "那不就白搞啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/835.wav",
        "text": "既然是基本法它就是一個方向性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/836.wav",
        "text": "法律我們就不用花太多時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/837.wav",
        "text": "討論法條的細節只要將方向定出來未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/838.wav",
        "text": "就授權專責機關去訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/839.wav",
        "text": "辦法處理這樣就可以避免競合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/840.wav",
        "text": "召委的說法真的有問題或是怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/841.wav",
        "text": "合不會沒有辦法處理啦所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/842.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得就這樣子吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/843.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/844.wav",
        "text": "我們歡迎吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/845.wav",
        "text": "也到現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/846.wav",
        "text": "第1條的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/847.wav",
        "text": "我們現在還沒進行到第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/848.wav",
        "text": "主席不好意思本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/849.wav",
        "text": "席不是要針對您啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/850.wav",
        "text": "在法律體系的定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/851.wav",
        "text": "有一個聲音呈現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/852.wav",
        "text": "今天的會議紀錄中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/853.wav",
        "text": "中中華民國是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/854.wav",
        "text": "憲法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/855.wav",
        "text": "法制治國的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/856.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的法律該放在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/857.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣的位階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/858.wav",
        "text": "這是民主憲政國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/859.wav",
        "text": "該有的基本制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/860.wav",
        "text": "和知識"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/861.wav",
        "text": "憲法確實就是國家的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/862.wav",
        "text": "根本大法理論上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/863.wav",
        "text": "憲法就是最高位階\n"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/864.wav",
        "text": "現在有人不尊重憲法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/865.wav",
        "text": "不把憲法看在眼裡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/866.wav",
        "text": "憲法的法律案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/867.wav",
        "text": "其實憲法的功能也沒有那麼大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/868.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以當我們遇到和憲法不太一樣的想法時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/869.wav",
        "text": "喬一喬就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/870.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話乾脆不要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/871.wav",
        "text": "我們是憲法法治國家本席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/872.wav",
        "text": "席覺得道理不應該"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/873.wav",
        "text": "是這樣\n"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/874.wav",
        "text": "\n基本法有基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/875.wav",
        "text": "有沒有真正被尊重被落實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/876.wav",
        "text": "那是另外一件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/877.wav",
        "text": "如果應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/878.wav",
        "text": "被校正回來應該要尊重它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/879.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/880.wav",
        "text": "實務執行面上應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/881.wav",
        "text": "而不是在這裡否定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/882.wav",
        "text": "基本法的位置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/883.wav",
        "text": "作為新一屆的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/884.wav",
        "text": "成員我們在制定法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/885.wav",
        "text": "的時候到底哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/886.wav",
        "text": "法要放在什麼位階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/887.wav",
        "text": "開始非常清楚的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/888.wav",
        "text": "一階一階一件一件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/889.wav",
        "text": "地處理本席覺得這才是正軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/890.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個本席希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/891.wav",
        "text": "能夠被留下紀錄"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/892.wav",
        "text": "關於基本法的法律位階"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/893.wav",
        "text": "這是第一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/894.wav",
        "text": "如果依照剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/895.wav",
        "text": "處提到的因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/896.wav",
        "text": "以至於在實務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/897.wav",
        "text": "上因為它的位階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/898.wav",
        "text": "國內未來其他的作用法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/899.wav",
        "text": "會有窒礙難行之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/900.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得這是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/901.wav",
        "text": "討論的理由之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/902.wav",
        "text": "本席也希望行政院也就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/903.wav",
        "text": "內政部這邊如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/904.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/905.wav",
        "text": "到底它的優點在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/906.wav",
        "text": "缺點也就是剛剛說的窒礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/907.wav",
        "text": "理由說服在場委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/908.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們當然就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/909.wav",
        "text": "應該採用權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/910.wav",
        "text": "\n如果是現在這種態度覺得基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/911.wav",
        "text": "也可以權益保障法也可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/912.wav",
        "text": "一開始召委就很認真地排案我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/913.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法的位階討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/914.wav",
        "text": "我們也不用堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/915.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/916.wav",
        "text": "但如果是本席個人的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/917.wav",
        "text": "比較合理而且本席一路以來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/918.wav",
        "text": "思維表示"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/919.wav",
        "text": "因為在這部法律案裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/920.wav",
        "text": "如果是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/921.wav",
        "text": "我們今天送出委員會接著"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/922.wav",
        "text": "三讀之後總統公布"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/923.wav",
        "text": "現在已經有的這些措施開始執行再搭配"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/924.wav",
        "text": "現有的政策其實對新住民的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/925.wav",
        "text": "保障是又快又好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/926.wav",
        "text": "這是本席一直以來的論點好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/927.wav",
        "text": "你的草案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/928.wav",
        "text": "所以本席上次就說啦本席改變了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/929.wav",
        "text": "因為本席被說服了因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/930.wav",
        "text": "基本法之後還要定好多個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/931.wav",
        "text": "好所以現在了解您的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/932.wav",
        "text": "提到的但是說真的這幾年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/933.wav",
        "text": "面對基本法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/934.wav",
        "text": "我們很無奈啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/935.wav",
        "text": "所以本席才說這個部分如果沒有做好是應該"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/936.wav",
        "text": "對真的非常無奈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/937.wav",
        "text": "甚至當我們在委員會裡面提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/938.wav",
        "text": "原住民基本法應該等同憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/939.wav",
        "text": "其實並沒有被各部會接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/940.wav",
        "text": "這是本席這幾年的無奈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/941.wav",
        "text": "的發言也希望下次我們一起努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/942.wav",
        "text": "再來糾正一下部會謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/943.wav",
        "text": "如果各位委員沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/944.wav",
        "text": "蘇委員有提到一個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/945.wav",
        "text": "就是為什麼行政院提的版本是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/946.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法\n當然我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/947.wav",
        "text": "也是權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/948.wav",
        "text": "權益保障法的主管機關是內政部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/949.wav",
        "text": "但未來通過的如果是基本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/950.wav",
        "text": "法主管機關可能就"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/951.wav",
        "text": "不是內政部因為內政部無法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/952.wav",
        "text": "因為它是一個基本法所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/953.wav",
        "text": "未來如果和勞動有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/954.wav",
        "text": "其他文化有關的其他的作用法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/955.wav",
        "text": "就要另外再宣示一個新的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/956.wav",
        "text": "法律今天有很明顯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/957.wav",
        "text": "出來各黨團都願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/958.wav",
        "text": "這個世界上不會有完美的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/959.wav",
        "text": "所有人都百分之百贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/960.wav",
        "text": "由我們很勇敢地把它接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/961.wav",
        "text": "如果未來是基本法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/962.wav",
        "text": "恐怕內政部就無法主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/963.wav",
        "text": "其他部會我們只能說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/964.wav",
        "text": "敬請貴部參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/965.wav",
        "text": "是用這樣的方式\n所以我建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/966.wav",
        "text": "是不是用權益保障法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/967.wav",
        "text": "這樣在整個法的體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/968.wav",
        "text": "上面我們比較能夠接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/969.wav",
        "text": "因為我們已經確定相關的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/970.wav",
        "text": "尤其是新住民的定義裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/971.wav",
        "text": "把兩岸人民關係條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/972.wav",
        "text": "的攬人辦法這些相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/973.wav",
        "text": "是內政部的話我們就有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/974.wav",
        "text": "法源基礎就新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/975.wav",
        "text": "合法居留的新住民不論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/976.wav",
        "text": "他是因為什麼樣的法律進來的包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/977.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/978.wav",
        "text": "以上很簡單的向委員解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/979.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/980.wav",
        "text": "內政部沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/981.wav",
        "text": "可以找各部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/982.wav",
        "text": "來協商就好像原基法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/983.wav",
        "text": "它的主管機關是原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/984.wav",
        "text": "所以碰到有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/985.wav",
        "text": "大家就必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/986.wav",
        "text": "坐下來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/987.wav",
        "text": "以原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/988.wav",
        "text": "或者現在談的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/989.wav",
        "text": "大主軸大規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/990.wav",
        "text": "誰凌駕誰的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/991.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/992.wav",
        "text": "其實主管機關也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/993.wav",
        "text": "是內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/994.wav",
        "text": "啊有啦我們原基法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/995.wav",
        "text": "本席認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/996.wav",
        "text": "基本法或新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/997.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/998.wav",
        "text": "未來會碰到這種問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/999.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1000.wav",
        "text": "所以這個理由也不太能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1001.wav",
        "text": "說服大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1002.wav",
        "text": "請吳思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1003.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1004.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1005.wav",
        "text": "對於名稱本席是有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1006.wav",
        "text": "一個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1007.wav",
        "text": "因為本席的版本來不及併進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1008.wav",
        "text": "有做過一些小小的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1009.wav",
        "text": "啦臺灣現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1010.wav",
        "text": "行有10部基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1011.wav",
        "text": "基本法的推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1012.wav",
        "text": "當然是回應憲法的基本國策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1013.wav",
        "text": "它就是比較高位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1014.wav",
        "text": "但是以目前臺灣推動的10部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1015.wav",
        "text": "基本法來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1016.wav",
        "text": "看我們可以觀察到一些發展的脈絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1017.wav",
        "text": "\n很多都是先從平常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1018.wav",
        "text": "的一些法規下手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1019.wav",
        "text": "例如我們今天對新住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1020.wav",
        "text": "權益保障是因為過去欠缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1021.wav",
        "text": "一個相對完備的法規去保障方方面面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1022.wav",
        "text": "先上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1023.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣社會的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1024.wav",
        "text": "不管是就業創業生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1025.wav",
        "text": "交通教育文化等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1026.wav",
        "text": "我們可以在那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1027.wav",
        "text": "讓它有基本法的更高位階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1028.wav",
        "text": "例如文化基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1029.wav",
        "text": "文化基本法是在2019年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1030.wav",
        "text": "那是文化界的憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1031.wav",
        "text": "也有很多文化相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1032.wav",
        "text": "法規包括文創法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1033.wav",
        "text": "文化藝術獎助條例有很多法律的支撐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1034.wav",
        "text": "試行10年20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1035.wav",
        "text": "以上我們才認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1036.wav",
        "text": "訂定基本法的時機純熟了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1037.wav",
        "text": "2019年的海洋基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1038.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣我們對海洋的保育海洋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1039.wav",
        "text": "的經濟海洋的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1040.wav",
        "text": "觀光有很多法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1041.wav",
        "text": "去支撐最後我們認為作為一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1042.wav",
        "text": "統合現行的很多法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1043.wav",
        "text": "做一個更全面的處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1044.wav",
        "text": "所以過去很多基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1045.wav",
        "text": "沿革本席個人都是主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1046.wav",
        "text": "保障做到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1047.wav",
        "text": "的基本法那是我們未來共同努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1048.wav",
        "text": "當初也陷入對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1049.wav",
        "text": "但是本席把過去幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1050.wav",
        "text": "較例如教育基本法環境基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1051.wav",
        "text": "通訊傳播基本法原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1052.wav",
        "text": "客家基本法科學技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1053.wav",
        "text": "基本法文基法海洋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1054.wav",
        "text": "基本法社會福利基本法道路交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1055.wav",
        "text": "安全基本法是最新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1056.wav",
        "text": "累積各項法律執行的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1057.wav",
        "text": "之後才抬高為基本法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1058.wav",
        "text": "位階本席認為那樣更純熟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1059.wav",
        "text": "\n所以本席個人的主張是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1060.wav",
        "text": "新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1061.wav",
        "text": "希望可以爭取大家的同意好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1062.wav",
        "text": "這一條也卡了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1063.wav",
        "text": "一部立意良善的法律謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1064.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1065.wav",
        "text": "請問一下國民黨團和民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1066.wav",
        "text": "剛才大家有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1067.wav",
        "text": "基本法就是大法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1068.wav",
        "text": "有大的方向大的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1069.wav",
        "text": "之後才能走下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1070.wav",
        "text": "這邊做那邊也做最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1071.wav",
        "text": "就是浪費政府的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1072.wav",
        "text": "本來要立法就是以大法為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1073.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得這個邏輯是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1074.wav",
        "text": "對的我們堅持新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1075.wav",
        "text": "基本法好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1076.wav",
        "text": "我們暫時保留好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1077.wav",
        "text": "請大家看行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1078.wav",
        "text": "還有吳思瑤委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1079.wav",
        "text": "修正動議版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1080.wav",
        "text": "我們審查通過的巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1081.wav",
        "text": "等26人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1082.wav",
        "text": "都有資料嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1083.wav",
        "text": "版本和蘇巧慧委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1084.wav",
        "text": "可能就是文字上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1085.wav",
        "text": "不太不一樣而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1086.wav",
        "text": "請問一下針對這三個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1087.wav",
        "text": "有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1088.wav",
        "text": "本席是拿掉一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1089.wav",
        "text": "啦協助其融入我國社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1090.wav",
        "text": "因為本席認為最高目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1091.wav",
        "text": "大家都是這個社會的一份子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1092.wav",
        "text": "要把他融入好像現階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1093.wav",
        "text": "就是覺得他們沒有融入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1094.wav",
        "text": "刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1095.wav",
        "text": "的一些表述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1096.wav",
        "text": "看看大家的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1097.wav",
        "text": "請問一下巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1098.wav",
        "text": "多元文化精神保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1099.wav",
        "text": "新住民之基本權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1100.wav",
        "text": "協助其融入我國社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1101.wav",
        "text": "建立共存共榮之族群關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1102.wav",
        "text": "特制定本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1103.wav",
        "text": "把協助其融入我國社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1104.wav",
        "text": "拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1105.wav",
        "text": "行政院的提案也有協助其融入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1106.wav",
        "text": "我國社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1107.wav",
        "text": "\n請問一下部長如果這句拿掉的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1108.wav",
        "text": "就像思瑤委員提案的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1109.wav",
        "text": "你們有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1110.wav",
        "text": "所以希望能夠不改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1111.wav",
        "text": "請羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1112.wav",
        "text": "是按照巧慧委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1113.wav",
        "text": "通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1114.wav",
        "text": "像民團就曾經和我們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1115.wav",
        "text": "過是不是在這一條加上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1116.wav",
        "text": "平等為落實憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1117.wav",
        "text": "保障平等和多元文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1118.wav",
        "text": "等精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1119.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是可以把平等這兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1120.wav",
        "text": "請問一下思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1121.wav",
        "text": "和巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1122.wav",
        "text": "思瑤委員的修正動議版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1123.wav",
        "text": "把協助其融入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1124.wav",
        "text": "大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1125.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1126.wav",
        "text": "現在思瑤提出的版本本席也可以支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1127.wav",
        "text": "如果再加上平等這兩個字呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1128.wav",
        "text": "當然是應該被保障的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1129.wav",
        "text": "只是要先確定一下憲法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1130.wav",
        "text": "有平等這兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1131.wav",
        "text": "平等和多元文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1132.wav",
        "text": "等精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1133.wav",
        "text": "第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1134.wav",
        "text": "中華民國人民無分男女宗教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1135.wav",
        "text": "種族階級黨派在法律上一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1136.wav",
        "text": "廖參事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1137.wav",
        "text": "請看一下這個文字第1條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1138.wav",
        "text": "平等和多元文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1139.wav",
        "text": "或平等與多元文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1140.wav",
        "text": "所以我們請法制單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1141.wav",
        "text": "主席各位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1142.wav",
        "text": "提到的要加入平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1143.wav",
        "text": "只是在法制文字上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1144.wav",
        "text": "憲法提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1145.wav",
        "text": "保障文化部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1146.wav",
        "text": "好像是指多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1147.wav",
        "text": "並沒有特別強調平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1148.wav",
        "text": "關於平等的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1149.wav",
        "text": "那是另外一個條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1150.wav",
        "text": "如果要加入平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1151.wav",
        "text": "多元的前面還是後面\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1152.wav",
        "text": "後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1153.wav",
        "text": "有哪一句話比較適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1154.wav",
        "text": "像共存共榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1155.wav",
        "text": "是不是比較妥當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1156.wav",
        "text": "共存共榮已經沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1157.wav",
        "text": "你看一下那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1158.wav",
        "text": "有兩個版本都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1159.wav",
        "text": "協助其融入我國社會這句拿掉而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1160.wav",
        "text": "修正動議是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1161.wav",
        "text": "為落實憲法保障多元文化精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1162.wav",
        "text": "保障新住民之基本權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1163.wav",
        "text": "建立共存共榮之族群關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1164.wav",
        "text": "特制定本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1165.wav",
        "text": "廖參事看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1166.wav",
        "text": "你的建議是把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1167.wav",
        "text": "平等拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1168.wav",
        "text": "建立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1169.wav",
        "text": "共存共榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1170.wav",
        "text": "共榮之族群關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1171.wav",
        "text": "因為共存共榮比較強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1172.wav",
        "text": "一起發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1173.wav",
        "text": "是基於平等的地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1174.wav",
        "text": "提出修正動議的思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1175.wav",
        "text": "因為平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1176.wav",
        "text": "是一個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1177.wav",
        "text": "族群的平等權益的平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1178.wav",
        "text": "是一個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1179.wav",
        "text": "多元文化精神是另外一個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1180.wav",
        "text": "所以應當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1181.wav",
        "text": "就是不要把平等和多元文化精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1182.wav",
        "text": "起最前面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1183.wav",
        "text": "多元文化精神是一個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1184.wav",
        "text": "不要把平等和多元文化放在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1185.wav",
        "text": "因為它是兩個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1186.wav",
        "text": "對不對權益平等和族群平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1187.wav",
        "text": "多元文化是不同的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1188.wav",
        "text": "我先補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1189.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都想要把平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1190.wav",
        "text": "應該是建立共存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1191.wav",
        "text": "共榮之族群平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1192.wav",
        "text": "關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1193.wav",
        "text": "這樣子比較順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1194.wav",
        "text": "本席可以建議嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1195.wav",
        "text": "先舉手的是巧慧委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1196.wav",
        "text": "因為我們都是隔一段時間才審一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1197.wav",
        "text": "真的會忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1198.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛一開始的時候雖然本席表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1199.wav",
        "text": "各版本的原始提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1200.wav",
        "text": "呢當時這個新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1201.wav",
        "text": "如果大家沒有忘記的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1202.wav",
        "text": "暫時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1203.wav",
        "text": "他和原住民的身分不一樣\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1204.wav",
        "text": "我們是保障新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1205.wav",
        "text": "這個暫時的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1206.wav",
        "text": "的過渡等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1207.wav",
        "text": "他就不應該是新住民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1208.wav",
        "text": "他的子女也應該被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1209.wav",
        "text": "保障所以每次在法條的用語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1210.wav",
        "text": "上就會寫新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1211.wav",
        "text": "或者是新住民及其子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1212.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1213.wav",
        "text": "才會把後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1214.wav",
        "text": "我們寫了什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1215.wav",
        "text": "我們要落實憲法保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1216.wav",
        "text": "多元文化的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1217.wav",
        "text": "保障新住民的基本權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1218.wav",
        "text": "\n因為他是一個過渡的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1219.wav",
        "text": "通譯子女課後輔導班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1220.wav",
        "text": "協助他融入這個社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1221.wav",
        "text": "的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1222.wav",
        "text": "本席還是可以對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1223.wav",
        "text": "思瑤剛剛的版本持開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1224.wav",
        "text": "立場但是本席remind大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1225.wav",
        "text": "我們之前討論的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1226.wav",
        "text": "不需要放進去然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1227.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝請麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1228.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1229.wav",
        "text": "本席認同前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1230.wav",
        "text": "憲法保障多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1231.wav",
        "text": "文化精神保障新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1232.wav",
        "text": "族群融合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1233.wav",
        "text": "憲法平等權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1234.wav",
        "text": "保障之精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1235.wav",
        "text": "特制訂本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1236.wav",
        "text": "要修所以是不是要修的完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1237.wav",
        "text": "對啊如果是這樣我們就同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1238.wav",
        "text": "你的版本就不用修了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1239.wav",
        "text": "本席也是同意你的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1240.wav",
        "text": "所以麥玉珍委員是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1241.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1242.wav",
        "text": "對原來的版本就不用再改如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1243.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話就用原來的版本如果要改的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1244.wav",
        "text": "謝謝剛才巧慧委員的提醒基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1245.wav",
        "text": "本席認為程序是重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1246.wav",
        "text": "因為本席上次沒有參與到前段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1247.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得程序是重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1248.wav",
        "text": "得加的或是有漏掉的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1249.wav",
        "text": "而且本席也被說服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1250.wav",
        "text": "是補強他很多很多的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1251.wav",
        "text": "所以這更足以說明未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1252.wav",
        "text": "要提高到基本法的位階時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1253.wav",
        "text": "可能會去檢視這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1254.wav",
        "text": "階段性的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1255.wav",
        "text": "\n像剛才說要拿掉階段性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1256.wav",
        "text": "的融入社會等等可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1257.wav",
        "text": "新住民是我們社會的一份子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1258.wav",
        "text": "所以這更足以說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1259.wav",
        "text": "立法未來朝向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1260.wav",
        "text": "基本法的創設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1261.wav",
        "text": "其實它需要一些時間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1262.wav",
        "text": "進階以及很多的共同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1263.wav",
        "text": "努力很多政策的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1264.wav",
        "text": "所以本席同意回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1265.wav",
        "text": "上次委員會的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1266.wav",
        "text": "多做討論謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1267.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝思瑤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1268.wav",
        "text": "那麼我們就不接受思瑤委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1269.wav",
        "text": "修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1270.wav",
        "text": "和委員會通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1271.wav",
        "text": "第1條其實是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1272.wav",
        "text": "就按照行政院版本通過好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1273.wav",
        "text": "請問在場的委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1274.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1275.wav",
        "text": "尊重行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1276.wav",
        "text": "及委員的版本還有我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1277.wav",
        "text": "進入第2條謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1278.wav",
        "text": "\n本席建議如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1279.wav",
        "text": "要上洗手間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1280.wav",
        "text": "你們可以去因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1281.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1282.wav",
        "text": "第2條就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1283.wav",
        "text": "新住民的定義委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1284.wav",
        "text": "會是保留請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1285.wav",
        "text": "大家看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1286.wav",
        "text": "也請大家順便看一下謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1287.wav",
        "text": "\n大家看一下我們先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1288.wav",
        "text": "休息兩分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1289.wav",
        "text": "謝謝不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1290.wav",
        "text": "這一條有些比較不一樣的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1291.wav",
        "text": "行政院總共有五款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1292.wav",
        "text": "這裡並沒有規定三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1293.wav",
        "text": "它的定義和大家比較不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1294.wav",
        "text": "他們是指配偶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1295.wav",
        "text": "為臺灣地區人民請大家看一下條文的不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1296.wav",
        "text": "大家有什麼看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1297.wav",
        "text": "我們先請內政部提出第1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1298.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1299.wav",
        "text": "委討論新住民權益保障法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1300.wav",
        "text": "我們就有特別向大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1301.wav",
        "text": "都是新住民保障的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1302.wav",
        "text": "把入出國及移民法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1303.wav",
        "text": "\n在我們的適用對象裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1304.wav",
        "text": "包括在臺長居和居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1305.wav",
        "text": "的部分還有相關的新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1306.wav",
        "text": "行政院版本的適用範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1307.wav",
        "text": "大約超過100萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1308.wav",
        "text": "仍然可以適用新住民的權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1309.wav",
        "text": "好請組長做一下更簡要的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1310.wav",
        "text": "讓大家更了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1311.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都比較清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1312.wav",
        "text": "我就不再說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1313.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1314.wav",
        "text": "我們這次擴大的是有關外國人陸港澳及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1315.wav",
        "text": "所以近期勞動部所提的中階技術人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1316.wav",
        "text": "為什麼移工不能納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1317.wav",
        "text": "僑外生不納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1318.wav",
        "text": "因為移工基本上分為兩類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1319.wav",
        "text": "一個是產業移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1320.wav",
        "text": "一個是社服移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1321.wav",
        "text": "他們在臺灣的工作年限是有上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1322.wav",
        "text": "的分別是十二年或十四年就必須離境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1323.wav",
        "text": "\n但是如果他們有機會在滿六年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1324.wav",
        "text": "符合一定的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1325.wav",
        "text": "他就可以申請為中階技術人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1326.wav",
        "text": "就會進到我們新住民的範圍裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1327.wav",
        "text": "所以他並不是永遠都不適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1328.wav",
        "text": "僑外生也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1329.wav",
        "text": "所以他停留的時間可能是兩到四年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1330.wav",
        "text": "其實也不會記錄永久居留或歸化期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1331.wav",
        "text": "所以一般國際間的通念也不會把他當作移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1332.wav",
        "text": "\n畢業後呢他只要符合一定的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1333.wav",
        "text": "取得工作許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1334.wav",
        "text": "也拿到我們工作應聘的外僑居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1335.wav",
        "text": "他就可以走入永久居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1336.wav",
        "text": "甚至歸化成為我們的國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1337.wav",
        "text": "所以其實僑生也會因為身分轉變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1338.wav",
        "text": "而進入我們的新住民範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1339.wav",
        "text": "所以我們並不是把移工和僑外生排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1340.wav",
        "text": "並不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1341.wav",
        "text": "而是他們的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1342.wav",
        "text": "所以您的意思是說你們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1343.wav",
        "text": "都放在裡面了是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1344.wav",
        "text": "不是的他們的身分如果轉成中階"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1345.wav",
        "text": "或是白領的工作者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1346.wav",
        "text": "條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1347.wav",
        "text": "達到以後他們就會進入我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1348.wav",
        "text": "新住民定義的範圍裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1349.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1350.wav",
        "text": "僑外生透過評點制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1351.wav",
        "text": "滿70分就可以取得工作許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1352.wav",
        "text": "有了工作許可就可以申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1353.wav",
        "text": "外僑居留證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1354.wav",
        "text": "他就可以留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1355.wav",
        "text": "工作滿一定年限就能拿到永居或歸化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1356.wav",
        "text": "所以不論他是居留永居或歸化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1357.wav",
        "text": "化都可以算在新住民的範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1358.wav",
        "text": "他必須在臺灣工作六年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1359.wav",
        "text": "和薪資條件符合一定的水準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1360.wav",
        "text": "就可以申請成為中階技術人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1361.wav",
        "text": "就會進入新住民的定義範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1362.wav",
        "text": "所以未來他也符合新住民基本法的範圍權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1363.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1364.wav",
        "text": "依照你們這樣說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1365.wav",
        "text": "大概會有多少人呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1366.wav",
        "text": "差不多是100萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1367.wav",
        "text": "請問一下在場委員都有聽清楚部長和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1368.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1369.wav",
        "text": "\n請思瑤委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1370.wav",
        "text": "這個條文的關鍵其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1371.wav",
        "text": "第1項的第5款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1372.wav",
        "text": "本席的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1373.wav",
        "text": "這部分要就教部會和幾位委員的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1374.wav",
        "text": "請大家集思廣益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1375.wav",
        "text": "經過許可在臺灣地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1376.wav",
        "text": "定居者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1377.wav",
        "text": "當然就某種程度來說本席也可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1378.wav",
        "text": "我們這一部法就是協助新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1379.wav",
        "text": "融入臺灣社會在這個過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1380.wav",
        "text": "中保障他的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1381.wav",
        "text": "給予一些extra的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1382.wav",
        "text": "協助或是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1383.wav",
        "text": "所以設定一個年限應當是這樣的思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1384.wav",
        "text": "啦\n我們最希望的就是他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1385.wav",
        "text": "但他在過渡期間的權益保障和支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1386.wav",
        "text": "為什麼是三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1387.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不是五年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1388.wav",
        "text": "本席不知道是不是有援引其他法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1389.wav",
        "text": "發言然後再一併請內政部說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1390.wav",
        "text": "其實本席的問題和思瑤委員一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1391.wav",
        "text": "你們的提案說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1392.wav",
        "text": "簡單來說就是拿到身分證滿三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1393.wav",
        "text": "他就不具新住民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1394.wav",
        "text": "本席認為這個部分真的很需要行政單位說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1395.wav",
        "text": "為什麼是滿三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1396.wav",
        "text": "當然我們可以理解為滿三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1397.wav",
        "text": "可是本席覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1398.wav",
        "text": "不是說滿三年之後他就不需要輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1399.wav",
        "text": "這和我們的期待是不符的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1400.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1401.wav",
        "text": "我簡要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1402.wav",
        "text": "目前我們國家的婚姻移民來到60萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1403.wav",
        "text": "人其實裡面有四成在臺灣已經居住超過20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1404.wav",
        "text": "有30萬人已經成為國人拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1405.wav",
        "text": "根據我們的統計一般而言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1406.wav",
        "text": "他在臺灣大概四到六年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1407.wav",
        "text": "其實最多是六年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1408.wav",
        "text": "左右都會取得身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1409.wav",
        "text": "可能還沒有辦法完全適應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1410.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在草案裡面規定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1411.wav",
        "text": "取得身分證後三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1412.wav",
        "text": "其實目的就是要讓他和國人的身分有一個重疊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1413.wav",
        "text": "讓他的銜接可以更順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1414.wav",
        "text": "\n在那段時間他可以選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1415.wav",
        "text": "可以讓他的保護更周延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1416.wav",
        "text": "其實他就享有國人的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1417.wav",
        "text": "如果我們要讓他融入臺灣的社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1418.wav",
        "text": "實在不適合再稱他為新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1419.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望在這次的法案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1420.wav",
        "text": "加入這樣的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1421.wav",
        "text": "就是希望已經拿到身分證的外籍人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1422.wav",
        "text": "他是以成為臺灣人自豪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1423.wav",
        "text": "而不是一直說我是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1424.wav",
        "text": "因為我們覺得在一個國家裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1425.wav",
        "text": "實在是需要更多認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1426.wav",
        "text": "這是一個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1427.wav",
        "text": "\n大家可能會有疑慮如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1428.wav",
        "text": "果未滿三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1429.wav",
        "text": "或三年以後就不是了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1430.wav",
        "text": "就沒有任何保護嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1431.wav",
        "text": "事實上不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1432.wav",
        "text": "因為依照現行規定其實各部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1433.wav",
        "text": "有八大照顧服務措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1434.wav",
        "text": "從92年推動到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1435.wav",
        "text": "我們的八大照顧服務措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1436.wav",
        "text": "很多的保障權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1437.wav",
        "text": "之後就不適用\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1438.wav",
        "text": "我舉個比較具體的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1439.wav",
        "text": "因為內政部負責新住民發展基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1440.wav",
        "text": "基金裡面有一個很大的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1441.wav",
        "text": "就是從事多元文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1442.wav",
        "text": "以及新住民及子女的培力活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1443.wav",
        "text": "或者是學習類的課程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1444.wav",
        "text": "還有多元文化的活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1445.wav",
        "text": "這些活動不分是否取得身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1446.wav",
        "text": "他們一律可以參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1447.wav",
        "text": "因為它的目的就是協助這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1448.wav",
        "text": "些人適應在地的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1449.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1450.wav",
        "text": "不會因為他拿到身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1451.wav",
        "text": "就隔離就不得適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1452.wav",
        "text": "這個部分在後續的相關配套上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1453.wav",
        "text": "可以透過各部會的法規措施要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1454.wav",
        "text": "不會因為他的身分不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1455.wav",
        "text": "新住民他就不能享有這樣的福利措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1456.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得我們需要把定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1457.wav",
        "text": "和後面的一些輔助措施分開思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1458.wav",
        "text": "我們希望讓新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1459.wav",
        "text": "不要再繼續被稱為新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1460.wav",
        "text": "因為他成為國人的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1461.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠確立這樣的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1462.wav",
        "text": "\n至於委員擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1463.wav",
        "text": "專法通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1464.wav",
        "text": "可以配合做檢討和修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1465.wav",
        "text": "意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1466.wav",
        "text": "如果這些新住民在設籍後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1467.wav",
        "text": "其實在法規上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1468.wav",
        "text": "一樣可以提供相關設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1469.wav",
        "text": "舉個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1470.wav",
        "text": "譬如說教育部有一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1471.wav",
        "text": "新住民就讀大學辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1472.wav",
        "text": "當時其實就是為了協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1473.wav",
        "text": "已經拿到身分證的新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1474.wav",
        "text": "的競爭力可能比較弱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1475.wav",
        "text": "因為他畢竟是外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1476.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法跟國內的一般生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1477.wav",
        "text": "去考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1478.wav",
        "text": "所以教育部特別訂了這樣的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1479.wav",
        "text": "來幫助這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1480.wav",
        "text": "如果修法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1481.wav",
        "text": "我想教育部也會配合修訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1482.wav",
        "text": "相關的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1483.wav",
        "text": "讓這些新住民成為國人之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1484.wav",
        "text": "一樣可以繼續使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1485.wav",
        "text": "不會使他們的就學權益受到虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1486.wav",
        "text": "以上補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1487.wav",
        "text": "好\n請麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1488.wav",
        "text": "我覺得組長前後矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1489.wav",
        "text": "前面是定義新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1490.wav",
        "text": "不管權利也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1491.wav",
        "text": "保障也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1492.wav",
        "text": "學習也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1493.wav",
        "text": "證的都是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1494.wav",
        "text": "就不是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1495.wav",
        "text": "了而是只要涉及權利保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1496.wav",
        "text": "他仍是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1497.wav",
        "text": "喔就算他拿到身分證也可以享受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1498.wav",
        "text": "喔所以你們對於新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1499.wav",
        "text": "拿到身分證三年後就不是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1500.wav",
        "text": "但是有需要的時候他又成為新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1501.wav",
        "text": "上次官員來跟我說明的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1502.wav",
        "text": "我覺得他的潛意識就有歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1503.wav",
        "text": "福利也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1504.wav",
        "text": "都是針對有需要的人才運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1505.wav",
        "text": "他一輩子都是新住民的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1506.wav",
        "text": "就有分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1507.wav",
        "text": "只要我們拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1508.wav",
        "text": "哪一個縣市後面的數字還可以區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1509.wav",
        "text": "看了就知道這是大陸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1510.wav",
        "text": "配偶是陸配或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1511.wav",
        "text": "或者是外配了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1512.wav",
        "text": "就有區分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1513.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們是不是一輩子都不能改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1514.wav",
        "text": "不因為基本法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1515.wav",
        "text": "訂了新住民我們就一輩子都是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1516.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個邏輯不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1517.wav",
        "text": "還有行政院提出的版本作了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1518.wav",
        "text": "作了完整的整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1519.wav",
        "text": "我也希望研究看看要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1520.wav",
        "text": "像剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1521.wav",
        "text": "具有一定身分再進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1522.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1523.wav",
        "text": "因為民眾黨團剛剛才把他們的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1524.wav",
        "text": "條文跟行政院版條文的對照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1525.wav",
        "text": "我也跟在場委員說抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1526.wav",
        "text": "我也請他們在智倫委員發言的同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1527.wav",
        "text": "請助理趕快去印"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1528.wav",
        "text": "以免各位委員手上沒有你們的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1529.wav",
        "text": "你們的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1530.wav",
        "text": "跟大家提醒一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1531.wav",
        "text": "行政院版本第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1532.wav",
        "text": "第1款第2款第3款第5款跟民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1533.wav",
        "text": "大概只有第4款是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1534.wav",
        "text": "然後吳思瑤委員的版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1535.wav",
        "text": "本跟行政院版本是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1536.wav",
        "text": "最後那個三年拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1537.wav",
        "text": "我就提醒各位委員一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1538.wav",
        "text": "趕快把你們剛剛所稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1539.wav",
        "text": "按照行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1540.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1541.wav",
        "text": "開記者會的消息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1542.wav",
        "text": "連藍領的也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1543.wav",
        "text": "都要加進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1544.wav",
        "text": "的主要目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1545.wav",
        "text": "就是要吸引更多新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1546.wav",
        "text": "可能是一代二代甚至三代都會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1547.wav",
        "text": "他們的年紀都偏輕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1548.wav",
        "text": "年紀都很輕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1549.wav",
        "text": "至於移工部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1550.wav",
        "text": "因為過去一代來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1551.wav",
        "text": "都比較屬於高知識分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1552.wav",
        "text": "所以很多都是藍領"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1553.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1554.wav",
        "text": "人士比如說醫生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1555.wav",
        "text": "等可是現在可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1556.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為在移工部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1557.wav",
        "text": "如果要吸引他們來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1558.wav",
        "text": "其實也可以接受民團的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1559.wav",
        "text": "參考看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1560.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1561.wav",
        "text": "因為民眾黨團的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1562.wav",
        "text": "我還沒看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1563.wav",
        "text": "我先針對剛剛幾位委員所說的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1564.wav",
        "text": "再作一下補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1565.wav",
        "text": "在處理有關新住民權益保障事務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1566.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1567.wav",
        "text": "啦完全沒有歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1568.wav",
        "text": "可能是在說的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1569.wav",
        "text": "說得比較長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1570.wav",
        "text": "但是邏輯上都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1571.wav",
        "text": "我先跟各位報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1572.wav",
        "text": "只要有居留永居這樣的證件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1573.wav",
        "text": "在四年到六年之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1574.wav",
        "text": "會取得中華民國國民的身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1575.wav",
        "text": "或原住民基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1576.wav",
        "text": "則不用處理身分證的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1577.wav",
        "text": "然後其子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1578.wav",
        "text": "就已經拿到中華民國身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1579.wav",
        "text": "媽媽在還沒有成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1580.wav",
        "text": "我們中華民國國民之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1581.wav",
        "text": "也仍然受到權益保障法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1582.wav",
        "text": "各項保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1583.wav",
        "text": "衛福等等都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1584.wav",
        "text": "她拿到中華民國身分證的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1585.wav",
        "text": "我們為了給予更多保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1586.wav",
        "text": "拿到中華民國身分證的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1587.wav",
        "text": "再給三年時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1588.wav",
        "text": "可以按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1589.wav",
        "text": "提的八大照顧措施繼續照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1590.wav",
        "text": "我還是一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1591.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1592.wav",
        "text": "新住民自己本身的文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1593.wav",
        "text": "教育傳統語言都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1594.wav",
        "text": "但是成為臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1595.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民取得身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1596.wav",
        "text": "需要有的輔導措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1597.wav",
        "text": "在還沒有拿到身分證之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1598.wav",
        "text": "的保障是四到六年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1599.wav",
        "text": "拿到身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1600.wav",
        "text": "就是至少再保障三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1601.wav",
        "text": "我們希望在這樣的保障結束之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1602.wav",
        "text": "她可以完全融入臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1603.wav",
        "text": "這樣的大家庭裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1604.wav",
        "text": "也就是跟一般國民一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1605.wav",
        "text": "都一模一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1606.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們原來所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1607.wav",
        "text": "我們所提的新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1608.wav",
        "text": "我再次跟大家做比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1609.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛麥委員也特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1610.wav",
        "text": "拿到臺灣身分證的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1611.wav",
        "text": "或僑外生身分的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1612.wav",
        "text": "而轉變身分需要有應聘資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1613.wav",
        "text": "而這兩部分業務集中在勞動部跟教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1614.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議勞動部跟教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1615.wav",
        "text": "這並不表示我們不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1616.wav",
        "text": "若要一下子馬上開放他們進來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1617.wav",
        "text": "也會有與臺灣本土勞工競合的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1618.wav",
        "text": "這點也必須考慮在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1619.wav",
        "text": "但是因為這不是內政部主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1620.wav",
        "text": "可不可以讓勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1621.wav",
        "text": "麥委員說明完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1622.wav",
        "text": "跟教育部兩位代表上來好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1623.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1624.wav",
        "text": "我回應部長一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1625.wav",
        "text": "我問部長我們進來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1626.wav",
        "text": "時拿的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1627.wav",
        "text": "來這邊工作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1628.wav",
        "text": "要來這邊讀書的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1629.wav",
        "text": "居留證的名稱叫什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1630.wav",
        "text": "對啊叫什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1631.wav",
        "text": "他們在臺灣拿的證件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1632.wav",
        "text": "新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1633.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1634.wav",
        "text": "麥委員你的意思是問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1635.wav",
        "text": "他們進來的時候取得居留證之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1636.wav",
        "text": "他們的身分別是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1637.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1638.wav",
        "text": "所以你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1639.wav",
        "text": "你是說他們要申請居留證的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1640.wav",
        "text": "上面寫的事由是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1641.wav",
        "text": "還是因為專業技術投資在臺灣居留的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1642.wav",
        "text": "或者大陸港澳地區居民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1643.wav",
        "text": "或者是移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1644.wav",
        "text": "是不是有這樣的名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1645.wav",
        "text": "那是事由的部分會有區別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1646.wav",
        "text": "對麥委員這樣有回答你的問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1647.wav",
        "text": "像是移工進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1648.wav",
        "text": "取得的也叫外僑居留證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1649.wav",
        "text": "但是下面寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1650.wav",
        "text": "還沒拿到身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1651.wav",
        "text": "就是臺灣國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1652.wav",
        "text": "我們現在要定他們的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1653.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣生出來的小孩是新二代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1654.wav",
        "text": "但是如果雙親的身分還沒有納入新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1655.wav",
        "text": "他的小孩也不叫新二代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1656.wav",
        "text": "啊是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1657.wav",
        "text": "如果照這樣的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1658.wav",
        "text": "但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1659.wav",
        "text": "孩的爸爸不一定是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1660.wav",
        "text": "因為我在臺灣生小孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1661.wav",
        "text": "他就變成土生土長的新二代嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1662.wav",
        "text": "沒有這樣的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1663.wav",
        "text": "所以我為什麼要問內政部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1664.wav",
        "text": "自己要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1665.wav",
        "text": "啦不是我們要定義進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1666.wav",
        "text": "人所給的身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1667.wav",
        "text": "怎麼不是呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1668.wav",
        "text": "剛才我們不是說了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1669.wav",
        "text": "我們要的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1670.wav",
        "text": "留在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1671.wav",
        "text": "轉為中階的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1672.wav",
        "text": "工作者未來也可以定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1673.wav",
        "text": "在新住民裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1674.wav",
        "text": "僑生來到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1675.wav",
        "text": "拿到永久居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1676.wav",
        "text": "也還不是身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1677.wav",
        "text": "也就是納入新住民的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1678.wav",
        "text": "否則難道他們就不能結婚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1679.wav",
        "text": "要拿到身分證才能生小孩嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1680.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1681.wav",
        "text": "我認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1682.wav",
        "text": "我們要成為中階人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1683.wav",
        "text": "或拿到臺灣定居證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1684.wav",
        "text": "新住民的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1685.wav",
        "text": "我認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1686.wav",
        "text": "因為我本來的提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1687.wav",
        "text": "案裡就沒有移工跟僑生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1688.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1689.wav",
        "text": "如果大家覺得民團建議很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1690.wav",
        "text": "納入這是你們的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1691.wav",
        "text": "但是我提案的時候是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1692.wav",
        "text": "的而是照你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1693.wav",
        "text": "剛才說的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1694.wav",
        "text": "進來後並"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1695.wav",
        "text": "且已經拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1696.wav",
        "text": "永久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1697.wav",
        "text": "居留證或定居證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1698.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1699.wav",
        "text": "也接受行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1700.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1701.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1702.wav",
        "text": "你覺得是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1703.wav",
        "text": "\n先請教育部跟勞動部說明好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1704.wav",
        "text": "請教育部顏副司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1705.wav",
        "text": "勞動部發展署的鍾錦季副署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1706.wav",
        "text": "今天有來是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1707.wav",
        "text": "教育部國際司是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1708.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1709.wav",
        "text": "國際司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1710.wav",
        "text": "是教育部國際司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1711.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1712.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1713.wav",
        "text": "各位委員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1714.wav",
        "text": "關於在臺僑外生的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1715.wav",
        "text": "目前在臺僑外生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1716.wav",
        "text": "─我是指修讀學位的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1717.wav",
        "text": "大專以上僑外生人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1718.wav",
        "text": "大概有六萬五千人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1719.wav",
        "text": "針對他們就學的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1720.wav",
        "text": "還有僑生回國就學及輔導辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1721.wav",
        "text": "分別都有明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1722.wav",
        "text": "因為他們初來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1723.wav",
        "text": "不熟悉臺灣的語言文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1724.wav",
        "text": "所以在入學管道部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1725.wav",
        "text": "我們都有特別開特殊管道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1726.wav",
        "text": "讓他們可以用申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1727.wav",
        "text": "方式入學相關的輔導措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1728.wav",
        "text": "包括就學期間的輔導措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1729.wav",
        "text": "至於在臺就讀的僑外生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1730.wav",
        "text": "是不是要納入新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1731.wav",
        "text": "基本法或權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1732.wav",
        "text": "剛剛提的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1733.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1734.wav",
        "text": "\n繼續請勞動部副署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1735.wav",
        "text": "關於評點我想大家可能知道吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1736.wav",
        "text": "生留用制度\n請教育部國際司補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1737.wav",
        "text": "部長說你剛剛有一些沒說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1738.wav",
        "text": "僑外生畢業之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1739.wav",
        "text": "如果要成為臺灣國民的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1740.wav",
        "text": "藉由在臺灣從事專門或技術性工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1741.wav",
        "text": "累積到符合永久居留資格後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1742.wav",
        "text": "可以在符合其他相關條件資格下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1743.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣申請永久居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1744.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1745.wav",
        "text": "在場大家對於這些永久居留的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1746.wav",
        "text": "你們應該都比我們清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1747.wav",
        "text": "喔那沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1748.wav",
        "text": "大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1749.wav",
        "text": "關於藍領移工的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1750.wav",
        "text": "在他來到臺灣之後工作6年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1751.wav",
        "text": "成為中階技術人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1752.wav",
        "text": "這次行政院的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1753.wav",
        "text": "就是已經把這樣的對象列進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1754.wav",
        "text": "原本都是從藍領而來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1755.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣已經取得一定的技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1756.wav",
        "text": "工作一定的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1757.wav",
        "text": "所以行政院版本這次就把他列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1758.wav",
        "text": "所討論出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1759.wav",
        "text": "就是行政院這個版本的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1760.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1761.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝教育部跟勞動部都同意民團的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1762.wav",
        "text": "在場委員也沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1763.wav",
        "text": "如果內政部提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1764.wav",
        "text": "我們大家樂觀其成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1765.wav",
        "text": "\n請羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1766.wav",
        "text": "或者是教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1767.wav",
        "text": "其實也講得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1768.wav",
        "text": "其實我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1769.wav",
        "text": "僑外生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1770.wav",
        "text": "因為階段性身分的轉換之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1771.wav",
        "text": "包括經過評點制等方式留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1772.wav",
        "text": "我們認定他是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1773.wav",
        "text": "並不是指他在學的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1774.wav",
        "text": "我們可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1775.wav",
        "text": "不是指他一進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1776.wav",
        "text": "還是學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1777.wav",
        "text": "時就是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1778.wav",
        "text": "照您現在的講法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1779.wav",
        "text": "這部分我是可以支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1780.wav",
        "text": "還有中階技術勞工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1781.wav",
        "text": "不是一進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1782.wav",
        "text": "其實這點我也可以支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1783.wav",
        "text": "啦所以就這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1784.wav",
        "text": "基本上大家都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1785.wav",
        "text": "但有時候需要去溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1786.wav",
        "text": "去解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1787.wav",
        "text": "並不是我們拒絕這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1788.wav",
        "text": "當他取得身分之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1789.wav",
        "text": "其實就成為新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1790.wav",
        "text": "應該是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1791.wav",
        "text": "我們現在更聚焦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1792.wav",
        "text": "大家手上現在有民眾黨黨團的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1793.wav",
        "text": "有民眾黨團的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1794.wav",
        "text": "然後還有吳思瑤委員的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1795.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1796.wav",
        "text": "休息一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1797.wav",
        "text": "讓大家針對這幾個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1798.wav",
        "text": "提出修正動議的委員討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1799.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1800.wav",
        "text": "我來宣布一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1801.wav",
        "text": "對於第2條第1款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1802.wav",
        "text": "第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1803.wav",
        "text": "第3款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1804.wav",
        "text": "第4款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1805.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨黨團是接受行政院版本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1806.wav",
        "text": "現在比較有問題是第5款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1807.wav",
        "text": "針對第5款後面的經許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1808.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣地區定居未滿三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1809.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1810.wav",
        "text": "把三年拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1811.wav",
        "text": "前項第1款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1812.wav",
        "text": "及第2款經許可居留之外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1813.wav",
        "text": "以未兼具我國國籍者為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1814.wav",
        "text": "這個希望拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1815.wav",
        "text": "所以我們比較針對性地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1816.wav",
        "text": "居住未滿三年的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1817.wav",
        "text": "他們同意吳思瑤委員的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1818.wav",
        "text": "不知道內政部同不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1819.wav",
        "text": "我們就針對這個部分來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1820.wav",
        "text": "第二個是可居留之外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1821.wav",
        "text": "的前項第1款及第2款經許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1822.wav",
        "text": "可居留之外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1823.wav",
        "text": "以未兼具我國國籍者為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1824.wav",
        "text": "所以我們將比較鎖定這兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1825.wav",
        "text": "\n請羅美玲委員她也有一些說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1826.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1827.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1828.wav",
        "text": "我想請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1829.wav",
        "text": "就是拿到身分證滿三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1830.wav",
        "text": "就不適用本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1831.wav",
        "text": "我想請教一下教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1832.wav",
        "text": "定具有新住民身分才可以申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1833.wav",
        "text": "但我們也知道很多新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1834.wav",
        "text": "都是因為婚姻移民而來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1835.wav",
        "text": "很多新住民都是婚姻移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1836.wav",
        "text": "而她們在早期可能有很大的機率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1837.wav",
        "text": "懷孕生子育兒等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1838.wav",
        "text": "等到她們有時間要去上大學的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1839.wav",
        "text": "可能已經是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1840.wav",
        "text": "拿到身分證滿三年以後的事情了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1841.wav",
        "text": "她們在這時候已經不具有新住民身分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1842.wav",
        "text": "請問教育部她們還有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1843.wav",
        "text": "利用新住民大學入學辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1844.wav",
        "text": "再回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1845.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1846.wav",
        "text": "今天早上我們也曾針對這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1847.wav",
        "text": "他們說因為當時擬定新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1848.wav",
        "text": "讀大學辦法是基於他依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1849.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上是要取得國籍之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1850.wav",
        "text": "羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1851.wav",
        "text": "她說要取得國籍之後才能就讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1852.wav",
        "text": "你對於這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1853.wav",
        "text": "所以意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1854.wav",
        "text": "你們是說滿三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1855.wav",
        "text": "就不具有新住民身分了嘛而她"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1856.wav",
        "text": "的第四年第五年第六年才想要進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1857.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1858.wav",
        "text": "請拿麥克風好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1859.wav",
        "text": "因為現在大家都會關注這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1860.wav",
        "text": "如果按照這樣通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1861.wav",
        "text": "那就不是新住民大學入學辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1862.wav",
        "text": "啦新住民就要拿掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1863.wav",
        "text": "對基本上我們到時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1864.wav",
        "text": "會配合這部法就名稱作修正以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1865.wav",
        "text": "除了教育部之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1866.wav",
        "text": "我想其他部會應該也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1867.wav",
        "text": "類似以新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1868.wav",
        "text": "條件的相關辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1869.wav",
        "text": "那是不是每個部會都要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1870.wav",
        "text": "我現在不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1871.wav",
        "text": "是不是每個部會都會修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1872.wav",
        "text": "我並不希望條文這樣通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1873.wav",
        "text": "到時雖然有一些跟新住民有關的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1874.wav",
        "text": "但新住民卻因為不符合身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1875.wav",
        "text": "分沒有了這個身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1876.wav",
        "text": "我比較擔心的是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1877.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1878.wav",
        "text": "你認同羅美玲委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1879.wav",
        "text": "其實是有一些爭議存在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1880.wav",
        "text": "還是請署長解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1881.wav",
        "text": "好請你解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1882.wav",
        "text": "部分你們認為到底有什麼窒礙難行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1883.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1884.wav",
        "text": "前項第1款及第2款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1885.wav",
        "text": "經許可居留之外國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1886.wav",
        "text": "以未兼具我國國籍者為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1887.wav",
        "text": "我想這裡最大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1888.wav",
        "text": "就出現在就算是不同政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1889.wav",
        "text": "像民進黨的羅美玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1890.wav",
        "text": "她是新住民的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1891.wav",
        "text": "是麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1892.wav",
        "text": "是不是也請你們正視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1893.wav",
        "text": "談以未兼具我國國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1894.wav",
        "text": "為限最主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1895.wav",
        "text": "因應可能是雙重國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1896.wav",
        "text": "我國無戶籍國民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1897.wav",
        "text": "所以這一條還是要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1898.wav",
        "text": "未滿三年還是跟剛剛大家的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1899.wav",
        "text": "我們是希望從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1900.wav",
        "text": "的居留階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1901.wav",
        "text": "或永久居留階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1902.wav",
        "text": "到已經歸化或定居之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1903.wav",
        "text": "這段一定期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1904.wav",
        "text": "最主要是要協助他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1905.wav",
        "text": "適應融入臺灣的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1906.wav",
        "text": "如果我們讓他一輩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1907.wav",
        "text": "從另外一個角度來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1908.wav",
        "text": "有的人也許也不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1909.wav",
        "text": "他們就講我都已經來臺灣二十年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1910.wav",
        "text": "你們還要對我們作調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1911.wav",
        "text": "你們還要說我們是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1912.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們希望有一定期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1913.wav",
        "text": "在身分上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1914.wav",
        "text": "永遠都還是有新住民的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1915.wav",
        "text": "而是希望是在一定期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1916.wav",
        "text": "我想也許在文化上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1917.wav",
        "text": "在血緣上可以這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1918.wav",
        "text": "我們希望在一定期間是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1919.wav",
        "text": "好回應署長這樣的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1920.wav",
        "text": "其實心裡就有很大的感觸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1921.wav",
        "text": "這個感觸是什麼呢她"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1922.wav",
        "text": "她的血液裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1923.wav",
        "text": "不管是來自越南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1924.wav",
        "text": "她的血液永遠都是那個國家的血液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1925.wav",
        "text": "啊她們願意到臺灣來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1926.wav",
        "text": "她喜歡這塊土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1927.wav",
        "text": "但在我們的法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1928.wav",
        "text": "不應該把她的血液切斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1929.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我一直在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1930.wav",
        "text": "你也清楚知道這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1931.wav",
        "text": "也會年老"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1932.wav",
        "text": "也會過世"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1933.wav",
        "text": "嘛不會永遠是這麼多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1934.wav",
        "text": "剛剛洪孟楷委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1935.wav",
        "text": "你們可能在行政操作上有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1936.wav",
        "text": "其實不管是民團也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1937.wav",
        "text": "修正動議版本也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1938.wav",
        "text": "他們都建議你們把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1939.wav",
        "text": "三年這個標準拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1940.wav",
        "text": "但你一直到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1941.wav",
        "text": "還是以他已經拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1942.wav",
        "text": "中華民國身分證為由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1943.wav",
        "text": "主張他不應該在新住民權益法裡面被保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1944.wav",
        "text": "而你們的組長剛剛又說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1945.wav",
        "text": "他終身都可以享受到新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1946.wav",
        "text": "就算法沒有通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1947.wav",
        "text": "他也都可以享受到文化教育等保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1948.wav",
        "text": "這是我覺得不合邏輯的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1949.wav",
        "text": "啦您是不是可以再說服一下大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1950.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能夠拿掉呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1951.wav",
        "text": "召委我想是這樣啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1952.wav",
        "text": "第一我們剛剛在很短的時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1953.wav",
        "text": "拿到麥玉珍委員提供的民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1954.wav",
        "text": "黨團修正版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1955.wav",
        "text": "爭議點大概是在三年這個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1956.wav",
        "text": "我想再跟大家報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1957.wav",
        "text": "這個三年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1958.wav",
        "text": "以未兼具我國國籍者第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1959.wav",
        "text": "過我先把三年這個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1960.wav",
        "text": "再跟大家作一下說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1961.wav",
        "text": "啦第一個就是我們從頭到尾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1962.wav",
        "text": "都說對於新住民本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1963.wav",
        "text": "都是完全尊重沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1964.wav",
        "text": "而我們現在要協助的一群人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1965.wav",
        "text": "要融入我們的社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1966.wav",
        "text": "可能需要語言上的協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1967.wav",
        "text": "或是怎麼樣融合的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1968.wav",
        "text": "或者照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1969.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣文化上怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1970.wav",
        "text": "這段過渡期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1971.wav",
        "text": "在她取得臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1972.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1973.wav",
        "text": "我們認為要再延長保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1974.wav",
        "text": "者我們認為她取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1975.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的國民身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1976.wav",
        "text": "之後雖然跟一般人都一樣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1977.wav",
        "text": "生活適應上的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1978.wav",
        "text": "因為畢竟只有4年或6年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1979.wav",
        "text": "跟她在母國生活了二十幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1980.wav",
        "text": "三十幾年畢竟不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1981.wav",
        "text": "這樣的延長保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1982.wav",
        "text": "就在我剛剛所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1983.wav",
        "text": "八大照顧措施裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1984.wav",
        "text": "譬如說語言還是有點困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1985.wav",
        "text": "生活適應還是有點困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1986.wav",
        "text": "或醫療生育上還是有點困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1987.wav",
        "text": "需要新住民家庭中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1988.wav",
        "text": "幫她照顧小孩者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1989.wav",
        "text": "所以我們三年的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1990.wav",
        "text": "\n寫未滿三年可能造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1991.wav",
        "text": "很多委員在想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1992.wav",
        "text": "認知上有一些出入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1993.wav",
        "text": "但其實就是延長三年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1994.wav",
        "text": "讓她在取得臺灣的國民身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1995.wav",
        "text": "還有三年時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1996.wav",
        "text": "仍然適用這部法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1997.wav",
        "text": "新住民子女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1998.wav",
        "text": "而我們擔心的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/1999.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有了解原來的原意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2000.wav",
        "text": "而取消掉之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2001.wav",
        "text": "就會變成永久保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2002.wav",
        "text": "她是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2003.wav",
        "text": "這樣的認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2004.wav",
        "text": "她一輩子都可以享受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2005.wav",
        "text": "不管是文化的教育的語言上的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2006.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國民身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2007.wav",
        "text": "之後如果有婚姻問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2008.wav",
        "text": "民政局也好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2009.wav",
        "text": "意思是我們希望她早日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2010.wav",
        "text": "所以這三年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2011.wav",
        "text": "就是指拿到身分證後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2012.wav",
        "text": "而不是阻礙她的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2013.wav",
        "text": "如果她仍然有困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2014.wav",
        "text": "我們當然可以再幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2015.wav",
        "text": "幫助我們為什麼提出這項三年期間原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2016.wav",
        "text": "處理新住民協助事務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2017.wav",
        "text": "請問你們要花多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2018.wav",
        "text": "坦白講我們不曉得要花多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2019.wav",
        "text": "因為未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2020.wav",
        "text": "在新住民權益保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2021.wav",
        "text": "通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2022.wav",
        "text": "包括幾位委員提到的知識體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2023.wav",
        "text": "或媒體事業等領域所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2024.wav",
        "text": "所以這一點請麥委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2025.wav",
        "text": "還是按照我們原來這個體系來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2026.wav",
        "text": "真的窒礙難行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2027.wav",
        "text": "們就是沒有保障他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2028.wav",
        "text": "我們再來修法都可以是一種程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2029.wav",
        "text": "也就是我們原先一開始所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2030.wav",
        "text": "沒有百分之百完美的法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2031.wav",
        "text": "然後再看可以走多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2032.wav",
        "text": "不是很滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2033.wav",
        "text": "但是都可以同意的狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2034.wav",
        "text": "我想我們大概是退到這個程度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2035.wav",
        "text": "所以請各位委員多多支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2036.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2037.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛跟她解釋了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2038.wav",
        "text": "其實不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2039.wav",
        "text": "她不曉得是拿到臺灣國民身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2040.wav",
        "text": "的三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2041.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2042.wav",
        "text": "不是這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2043.wav",
        "text": "沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2044.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2045.wav",
        "text": "我插一下嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2046.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有跟我講她不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2047.wav",
        "text": "對她有跟我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2048.wav",
        "text": "她不堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2049.wav",
        "text": "好\n我可不可以理解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2050.wav",
        "text": "未來是否只要在拿到中華民國身分證之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2051.wav",
        "text": "他的新住民身分就已經不存在了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2052.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2053.wav",
        "text": "按照這部法還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2054.wav",
        "text": "在認同上他都是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2055.wav",
        "text": "你這個概念可能與我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2056.wav",
        "text": "跟在場兩位新住民委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2057.wav",
        "text": "你看我們現在都還稱她們為新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2058.wav",
        "text": "喔她們都拿到中華民國身分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2059.wav",
        "text": "嘛甚至還可以做臺灣的立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2060.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以你們這個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2061.wav",
        "text": "能不能解釋一下讓我們清楚了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2062.wav",
        "text": "以後是不是只要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2063.wav",
        "text": "拿到中華民國身分後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2064.wav",
        "text": "都不叫新住民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2065.wav",
        "text": "是不是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2066.wav",
        "text": "在他們的名稱上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2067.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都不叫他們新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2068.wav",
        "text": "所以大家都要改口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2069.wav",
        "text": "因為以你這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2070.wav",
        "text": "行政院提案就告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2071.wav",
        "text": "他在拿到國籍三年以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2072.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2073.wav",
        "text": "相對之下也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2074.wav",
        "text": "他不應該叫新住民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2075.wav",
        "text": "他的身分就是中華民國的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2076.wav",
        "text": "或是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2077.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2078.wav",
        "text": "委員我想有一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2079.wav",
        "text": "需要再作解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2080.wav",
        "text": "就文化上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2081.wav",
        "text": "血緣上面的認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2082.wav",
        "text": "他永遠都是新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2083.wav",
        "text": "所以他應該可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2084.wav",
        "text": "跟他的母國聯絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2085.wav",
        "text": "都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2086.wav",
        "text": "這些都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2087.wav",
        "text": "臺灣本來就是自由的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2088.wav",
        "text": "但是我要跟召委報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2089.wav",
        "text": "他怎麼樣變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2090.wav",
        "text": "取得身分證的臺灣住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2091.wav",
        "text": "這個才是比較重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2092.wav",
        "text": "在一段時間之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2093.wav",
        "text": "他就成為百分之百的臺灣住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2094.wav",
        "text": "不管是什麼樣的公民權益只要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2095.wav",
        "text": "應該有的權益全部都算在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2096.wav",
        "text": "但是在取得之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2097.wav",
        "text": "一定有適應上的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2098.wav",
        "text": "所以您認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2099.wav",
        "text": "只有適應上的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2100.wav",
        "text": "而不是他跟母國聯繫的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2101.wav",
        "text": "與母國聯繫不在這部法的範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2102.wav",
        "text": "所以可能永遠不叫新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2103.wav",
        "text": "三年以後就不叫新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2104.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2105.wav",
        "text": "因為以我理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2106.wav",
        "text": "你的說法是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2107.wav",
        "text": "到時他就不叫新住民了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2108.wav",
        "text": "了然後立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2109.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2110.wav",
        "text": "他應該也是臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2111.wav",
        "text": "立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2112.wav",
        "text": "譬如說代表政黨的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2113.wav",
        "text": "那是政黨內部自己做決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2114.wav",
        "text": "時區分但是在選舉罷免法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2115.wav",
        "text": "新住民立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2116.wav",
        "text": "我們也要糾正總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2117.wav",
        "text": "啦不管是蔡總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2118.wav",
        "text": "不管是賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2119.wav",
        "text": "不我是指我們的選罷法體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2120.wav",
        "text": "我可以再舉一個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2121.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2122.wav",
        "text": "譬如說很早以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2123.wav",
        "text": "可能那時候高金委員也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2124.wav",
        "text": "臺灣有所謂的僑選民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2125.wav",
        "text": "僑選民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2126.wav",
        "text": "臺灣民意代表身分的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2127.wav",
        "text": "可能是美國人或日本人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2128.wav",
        "text": "我們的立法委員資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2129.wav",
        "text": "就要轉換自己為臺灣的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2130.wav",
        "text": "他拿到中華民國國民身分證的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2131.wav",
        "text": "就已經不可能再參選僑選職務了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2132.wav",
        "text": "因為他不會回去他的僑居地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2133.wav",
        "text": "我現在說的是身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2134.wav",
        "text": "我覺得如果部長這麼說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2135.wav",
        "text": "我們三年後就變成臺灣人了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2136.wav",
        "text": "我們拿到身分證要十年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2137.wav",
        "text": "才能考公職或公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2138.wav",
        "text": "喔所以就拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2139.wav",
        "text": "我們也就不用限制時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2140.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2141.wav",
        "text": "就不用限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2142.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2143.wav",
        "text": "來臺灣後若要拿身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2144.wav",
        "text": "陸配的話則是六年能辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2145.wav",
        "text": "但是我們在臺灣拿到身分證後卻要十年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2146.wav",
        "text": "才能參政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2147.wav",
        "text": "才能考公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2148.wav",
        "text": "才不會浪費大家的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2149.wav",
        "text": "跟麥玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2150.wav",
        "text": "是不是可能比我更熟悉了解這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2151.wav",
        "text": "所以照你的理解是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2152.wav",
        "text": "就是三年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2153.wav",
        "text": "就不具有新住民身分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2154.wav",
        "text": "是是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2155.wav",
        "text": "確實是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2156.wav",
        "text": "我們是外籍人士入籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2157.wav",
        "text": "要十年之後才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2158.wav",
        "text": "但不是因為新住民的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2159.wav",
        "text": "因為新住民到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2160.wav",
        "text": "並沒有法律的定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2161.wav",
        "text": "須拿到身分證十年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2162.wav",
        "text": "你看嘛本法所稱新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2163.wav",
        "text": "那是在國籍法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2164.wav",
        "text": "可是國籍法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2165.wav",
        "text": "不是用新住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2166.wav",
        "text": "所以大家可能要討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2167.wav",
        "text": "喔我們再休息一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2168.wav",
        "text": "大家都很認真很努力地協商這個行政院終於提出的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2169.wav",
        "text": "我來宣布一下對於第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2170.wav",
        "text": "但是對於第5款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2171.wav",
        "text": "再多溝通一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2172.wav",
        "text": "所以第2條我們也讓它保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2173.wav",
        "text": "協啇不管是新住民權益保障法或新住民基本法的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2174.wav",
        "text": "因為行政院版本已經提出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2175.wav",
        "text": "所以下一次協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2176.wav",
        "text": "如果各黨團或各位委員有意見是不是請你們提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2177.wav",
        "text": "如果你們對行政院的版本有意見就以他們的條文作對照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2178.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們速度就會很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2179.wav",
        "text": "今天的會議到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2180.wav",
        "text": "現在散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16054/2181.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/0.wav",
        "text": "我們協商正式開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/1.wav",
        "text": "在這邊主席臺報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/2.wav",
        "text": "我們現在黨團協商國民黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/3.wav",
        "text": "有關公糧收購案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/4.wav",
        "text": "建請院會作成決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/5.wav",
        "text": "農業部應調整公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/6.wav",
        "text": "由每公斤26元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/7.wav",
        "text": "調整至每公斤34元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/8.wav",
        "text": "提高農民基本利潤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/9.wav",
        "text": "以因應近年物價劇烈波動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/10.wav",
        "text": "導致務農成本增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/11.wav",
        "text": "落實照顧農民之政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/12.wav",
        "text": "以及台灣民眾黨所提的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/13.wav",
        "text": "要求農業部應綜合考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/14.wav",
        "text": "各項的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/15.wav",
        "text": "將公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/16.wav",
        "text": "自每公斤26元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/17.wav",
        "text": "調升5元以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/18.wav",
        "text": "並加速提升整體雜糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/19.wav",
        "text": "種植面積之計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/20.wav",
        "text": "國民黨提案及修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/21.wav",
        "text": "於113年5月14日第1會期第13次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/22.wav",
        "text": "院會決議併同交付黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/23.wav",
        "text": "並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/24.wav",
        "text": "今天協商一併列入討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/25.wav",
        "text": "\n首先我們請農業部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/26.wav",
        "text": "來做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/27.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/28.wav",
        "text": "農業部針對委員的提案部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/29.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團所提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/30.wav",
        "text": "增加的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/31.wav",
        "text": "是不可行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/32.wav",
        "text": "有非常多的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/33.wav",
        "text": "如果只透過公糧的價格調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/34.wav",
        "text": "從過往的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/35.wav",
        "text": "這樣的提升對當年度有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/36.wav",
        "text": "但是後續的面積都會提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/37.wav",
        "text": "反而不會因此而增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/38.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為這樣一個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/39.wav",
        "text": "對於整個稻作產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/40.wav",
        "text": "的影響反而會更大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/41.wav",
        "text": "我想你用打擊兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/42.wav",
        "text": "我們會聽取各個委員的寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/43.wav",
        "text": "首先是丁學忠委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/44.wav",
        "text": "丁學忠委員發言完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/45.wav",
        "text": "我們請張嘉郡委員再請許宇甄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/46.wav",
        "text": "感謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/47.wav",
        "text": "在基層聽到很多農民的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/48.wav",
        "text": "現在連收成的工資也都漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/49.wav",
        "text": "對於農民這麼辛苦的種作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/50.wav",
        "text": "大家那麼努力那麼辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/51.wav",
        "text": "給農民一個基本的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/52.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你們要這樣決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/53.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/54.wav",
        "text": "我們坐在辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/55.wav",
        "text": "你們有去田裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/56.wav",
        "text": "瞭解到農民的心聲嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/57.wav",
        "text": "你們有去鄉下瞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/58.wav",
        "text": "鄉下瞭解農民為了提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/59.wav",
        "text": "嗎我們只是要彌補他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/60.wav",
        "text": "收入更加安定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/61.wav",
        "text": "讓他們的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/62.wav",
        "text": "可以過得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/63.wav",
        "text": "一些我們只希望這樣而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/64.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你們要反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/65.wav",
        "text": "希望部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/66.wav",
        "text": "你們不要坐在辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/67.wav",
        "text": "陽底下農民的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/68.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/69.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/70.wav",
        "text": "因為我們中午有2場經濟委員會的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/71.wav",
        "text": "如果有重複的就不發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/72.wav",
        "text": "請張嘉郡委員許宇甄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/73.wav",
        "text": "再來是剛剛的陳超明委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/74.wav",
        "text": "書記長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/75.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/76.wav",
        "text": "我想你的立場大家都非常理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/77.wav",
        "text": "也就是你不希望公糧收購價格提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/78.wav",
        "text": "民進黨在選舉的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/79.wav",
        "text": "一直說農民就是他們心中最軟的一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/80.wav",
        "text": "一定會照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/81.wav",
        "text": "原來這就是你要照顧農民的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/82.wav",
        "text": "我們農業就業人口已經降低7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/83.wav",
        "text": "然後我們公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/84.wav",
        "text": "價格已經十三年沒有調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/85.wav",
        "text": "今年的糧價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/86.wav",
        "text": "可能是過去五年來最低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/87.wav",
        "text": "新低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/88.wav",
        "text": "每公斤不到10塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/89.wav",
        "text": "這就是你身為農業部長的一個政績"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/90.wav",
        "text": "你覺得這樣合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/91.wav",
        "text": "你覺得這樣有在照顧農民嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/92.wav",
        "text": "你對你的成績滿意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/93.wav",
        "text": "所以我真心覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/94.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛丁學忠委員所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/95.wav",
        "text": "肥料都漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/96.wav",
        "text": "漲價還有人工也漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/97.wav",
        "text": "包括秧苗也漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/98.wav",
        "text": "代耕費用也漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/99.wav",
        "text": "全部都漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/100.wav",
        "text": "只有公糧收購的價格沒有漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/101.wav",
        "text": "你覺得這合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/102.wav",
        "text": "我們要照顧的是在最底層的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/103.wav",
        "text": "我希望部長可以三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/104.wav",
        "text": "好好為這些最基層的農民想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/105.wav",
        "text": "我們這次公糧收購價格的提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/106.wav",
        "text": "完全非常合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/107.wav",
        "text": "而且只有提高8塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/108.wav",
        "text": "你要想十三年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/109.wav",
        "text": "工資漲幅是53.64%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/110.wav",
        "text": "我們的秧苗漲幅是43%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/111.wav",
        "text": "物價指數上漲超過15%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/112.wav",
        "text": "上漲這麼多可以說是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/113.wav",
        "text": "嚴重影響農民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/114.wav",
        "text": "所以希望農業部本於落實照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/115.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/116.wav",
        "text": "請部長將委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/117.wav",
        "text": "部分注意聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/118.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/119.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來請許宇甄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/120.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/121.wav",
        "text": "可能會引起搶種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/122.wav",
        "text": "我想部長可能有很大的迷思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/123.wav",
        "text": "包括剛剛張嘉郡委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/124.wav",
        "text": "物價各方面調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/125.wav",
        "text": "包括農藥肥料的成本也上漲25%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/126.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上就算從26元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/127.wav",
        "text": "調高到34"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/128.wav",
        "text": "真正的耕作成本來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/129.wav",
        "text": "事實上也是不夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/130.wav",
        "text": "所以根本不可能有什麼搶種的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/131.wav",
        "text": "我覺得落實照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/132.wav",
        "text": "落實照顧弱勢的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/133.wav",
        "text": "這應該是大家的基本共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/134.wav",
        "text": "而不是說因為擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/135.wav",
        "text": "搶種或者擔心有什麼樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/136.wav",
        "text": "反而應該真正面對農民的需求去提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/137.wav",
        "text": "十三年來沒有調漲過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/138.wav",
        "text": "成本也增加這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/139.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不用這樣的一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/140.wav",
        "text": "來真正落實照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/141.wav",
        "text": "請部長要三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/142.wav",
        "text": "部長注意聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/143.wav",
        "text": "接下來是陳超明委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/144.wav",
        "text": "陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/145.wav",
        "text": "這個十三年沒有調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/146.wav",
        "text": "所有東西都在漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/147.wav",
        "text": "你真的沒有調整的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/148.wav",
        "text": "實在很對不起農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/149.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/150.wav",
        "text": "你說如果調整價格的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/151.wav",
        "text": "很多人會種稻糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/152.wav",
        "text": "糧我再請教你一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/153.wav",
        "text": "你們雜糧也大概十幾年都沒有漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/154.wav",
        "text": "如果要改變這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/155.wav",
        "text": "你把雜糧的價格調高一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/156.wav",
        "text": "大家都會努力去種植雜糧公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/157.wav",
        "text": "公糧自然會減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/158.wav",
        "text": "你兩邊都不漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/159.wav",
        "text": "只是為了物價的穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/160.wav",
        "text": "怕通貨膨脹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/161.wav",
        "text": "這個時代已經面臨著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/162.wav",
        "text": "所有農民走到哪個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/163.wav",
        "text": "都要求公糧要上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/164.wav",
        "text": "漲多漲少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/165.wav",
        "text": "大家可以協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/166.wav",
        "text": "但是你永遠記得一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/167.wav",
        "text": "雜糧沒有上漲的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/168.wav",
        "text": "不一定會比種稻好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/169.wav",
        "text": "所以兩方面你只能提取一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/170.wav",
        "text": "雜糧漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/171.wav",
        "text": "公糧漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/172.wav",
        "text": "我相信農民自行會調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/173.wav",
        "text": "不會有你所擔心的問題產生記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/174.wav",
        "text": "記住這一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/175.wav",
        "text": "我相信公糧收購的價格上漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/176.wav",
        "text": "也會帶動雜糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/177.wav",
        "text": "尤其你把雜糧提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/178.wav",
        "text": "種的人就更多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/179.wav",
        "text": "自然會平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/180.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/181.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳超明委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/182.wav",
        "text": "我們接下來請莊瑞雄書記長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/183.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/184.wav",
        "text": "主席我們本來是1點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/185.wav",
        "text": "啦所以提早召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/186.wav",
        "text": "我們有經過大家同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/187.wav",
        "text": "其他委員當然就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/188.wav",
        "text": "有經過大家同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/189.wav",
        "text": "而且今天在剛開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/190.wav",
        "text": "就已經請黨團去通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/191.wav",
        "text": "經過大家同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/192.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/193.wav",
        "text": "我們有經過黨團通知大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/194.wav",
        "text": "經過同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/195.wav",
        "text": "是啦是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/196.wav",
        "text": "就是會議結束之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/197.wav",
        "text": "通知大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/198.wav",
        "text": "我是向你表明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/199.wav",
        "text": "感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/200.wav",
        "text": "請發言謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/201.wav",
        "text": "我要跟你說的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/202.wav",
        "text": "這個農業部其實應該很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/203.wav",
        "text": "價格提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/204.wav",
        "text": "我相信從過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/205.wav",
        "text": "不管是誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/206.wav",
        "text": "都很嚴肅在探討這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/207.wav",
        "text": "以現在來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/208.wav",
        "text": "目前是超產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/209.wav",
        "text": "噸本席是很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/210.wav",
        "text": "啦就是你如果提高以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/211.wav",
        "text": "對於短期上看得到效益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/212.wav",
        "text": "可是長期來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/213.wav",
        "text": "提高種植稻米的意願以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/214.wav",
        "text": "真的會壓縮到其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/215.wav",
        "text": "雜糧作物種植的意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/216.wav",
        "text": "這個跟整個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/217.wav",
        "text": "是不是有違背的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/218.wav",
        "text": "以屏東來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/219.wav",
        "text": "我當然是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/220.wav",
        "text": "農民有更高的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/221.wav",
        "text": "可是我們確實是為了要確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/222.wav",
        "text": "你說糧價波動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/223.wav",
        "text": "現在來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/224.wav",
        "text": "繳交公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/225.wav",
        "text": "現在是占10%的總數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/226.wav",
        "text": "喔部長你也特別要去考慮到這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/227.wav",
        "text": "喔至於其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/228.wav",
        "text": "可能大家比較沒有去考慮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/229.wav",
        "text": "每一公頃來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/230.wav",
        "text": "就需要1.2萬噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/231.wav",
        "text": "大家集中種植稻米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/232.wav",
        "text": "水資源的使用一定會更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/233.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/234.wav",
        "text": "以後要重新去配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/235.wav",
        "text": "那你真的也會傷腦筋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/236.wav",
        "text": "啦對於整個產業的平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/237.wav",
        "text": "及國家糧食的自主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/238.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的自給率只有一成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/239.wav",
        "text": "今天獨厚水稻的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/240.wav",
        "text": "產業的平衡也會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/241.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的整個糧食自主權被限縮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/242.wav",
        "text": "也容易被國際價格的浮動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/243.wav",
        "text": "所以本席認為倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/244.wav",
        "text": "單一用提高價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/245.wav",
        "text": "可以來解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/246.wav",
        "text": "大家一併來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/247.wav",
        "text": "也是最關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/248.wav",
        "text": "張啓楷委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/249.wav",
        "text": "部長各位同事大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/250.wav",
        "text": "我是嘉義鄉下長大的小孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/251.wav",
        "text": "老人家都在說現在種田"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/252.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得部長在做這個決定的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/253.wav",
        "text": "關係到很多很多農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/254.wav",
        "text": "尤其是年長的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/255.wav",
        "text": "所以就要好好多用心去想一下這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/256.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/257.wav",
        "text": "你用很務實跟科學的數據去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/258.wav",
        "text": "13年沒調整這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/259.wav",
        "text": "軍公教都在調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/260.wav",
        "text": "啦為什麼農民這邊不能調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/261.wav",
        "text": "呢你說人工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/262.wav",
        "text": "人工也是漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/263.wav",
        "text": "所有農業資材都漲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/264.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有要求一定要調非常非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/265.wav",
        "text": "你像我們台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/266.wav",
        "text": "我們是有初步的精算完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/267.wav",
        "text": "現在1公斤是26塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/268.wav",
        "text": "我們就建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/269.wav",
        "text": "至少要調到5塊錢以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/270.wav",
        "text": "當然國民黨可能認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/271.wav",
        "text": "應該要高一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/272.wav",
        "text": "這個我們是可以來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/273.wav",
        "text": "啦剛剛有委員講得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/274.wav",
        "text": "調多調少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/275.wav",
        "text": "當然是可以討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/276.wav",
        "text": "可是就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/277.wav",
        "text": "確實我們的農民碰到問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/278.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們要將心比心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/279.wav",
        "text": "去幫他們解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/280.wav",
        "text": "其實剛才瑞雄說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/281.wav",
        "text": "不過在經濟委員會這麼久我聽起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/282.wav",
        "text": "嗎我覺得應該是朝野比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/283.wav",
        "text": "請大家多幫幫我們農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/284.wav",
        "text": "不只是體恤農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/285.wav",
        "text": "也需要一些有經驗的人留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/286.wav",
        "text": "有人都不想要再做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/287.wav",
        "text": "你又不讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/288.wav",
        "text": "他要怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/289.wav",
        "text": "這個不是只有農民生計的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/290.wav",
        "text": "以農立國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/291.wav",
        "text": "當然現在變工商業社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/292.wav",
        "text": "也是要再繼續下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/293.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/294.wav",
        "text": "我們多往這方面想一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/295.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張啓楷委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/296.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的提案是希望增加8塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/297.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨提案是5塊以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/298.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也有委員表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/299.wav",
        "text": "還有其他方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/300.wav",
        "text": "部長你剛才所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/301.wav",
        "text": "有一點本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/302.wav",
        "text": "還是要說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/303.wav",
        "text": "就是會衝擊到農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/304.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣的言語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/305.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/306.wav",
        "text": "因為包括部長你本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/307.wav",
        "text": "以及我們不管藍綠白的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/308.wav",
        "text": "大家都是一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/309.wav",
        "text": "包括今天我們在經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/310.wav",
        "text": "所提出的光人力的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/311.wav",
        "text": "這些都是大家要非常冷靜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/312.wav",
        "text": "理性地去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/313.wav",
        "text": "而且我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/314.wav",
        "text": "藍綠白的委員全力的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/315.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣以農立國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/316.wav",
        "text": "這個是臺灣最重要的寶貝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/317.wav",
        "text": "也是最重要的根基"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/318.wav",
        "text": "\n所以在這樣的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/319.wav",
        "text": "13年沒有漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/320.wav",
        "text": "在剛剛所有委員發言的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/321.wav",
        "text": "我特別請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/322.wav",
        "text": "我看你詳細的記錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/323.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在請你再做發表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/324.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/325.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/326.wav",
        "text": "剛才各位委員的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/327.wav",
        "text": "我都有非常清楚的記錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/328.wav",
        "text": "我覺得大家都有共識的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/329.wav",
        "text": "就是照顧所有的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/330.wav",
        "text": "這個我想大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/331.wav",
        "text": "都是一致同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/332.wav",
        "text": "所以農業部在思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/333.wav",
        "text": "這邊提案的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/334.wav",
        "text": "不只是限於所謂種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/335.wav",
        "text": "種稻的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/336.wav",
        "text": "因為公糧收購是目前所有的作物裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/337.wav",
        "text": "唯一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/338.wav",
        "text": "是由政府保價收購的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/339.wav",
        "text": "其他都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/340.wav",
        "text": "全世界只有我們臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/341.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/342.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/343.wav",
        "text": "講到生產成本的提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/344.wav",
        "text": "絕對也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/345.wav",
        "text": "種稻作的成本提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/346.wav",
        "text": "其他所有作物都提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/347.wav",
        "text": "僅處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/348.wav",
        "text": "我們考慮公糧收購的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/349.wav",
        "text": "對不起我插話一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/350.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/351.wav",
        "text": "這裡都有錄音錄影"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/352.wav",
        "text": "你這樣的言語"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/353.wav",
        "text": "我想很多農民沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/354.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天討論的是稻米這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/355.wav",
        "text": "你把全部的卡來這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/356.wav",
        "text": "好像種稻的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/357.wav",
        "text": "要求如此是有罪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/358.wav",
        "text": "這樣子不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/359.wav",
        "text": "你應該是針對這個問題來討論好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/360.wav",
        "text": "然後提出你的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/361.wav",
        "text": "我們也尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/362.wav",
        "text": "我們會提出一些方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/363.wav",
        "text": "相對的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/364.wav",
        "text": "我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/365.wav",
        "text": "剛才所提到委員的這些建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/366.wav",
        "text": "當然沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/367.wav",
        "text": "對稻農的收益來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/368.wav",
        "text": "以過去的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/369.wav",
        "text": "100年提高了3塊加2塊的公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/370.wav",
        "text": "他在第三年當年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/371.wav",
        "text": "民糧的價格提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/372.wav",
        "text": "可是面積一定會提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/373.wav",
        "text": "提高的話產量就過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/374.wav",
        "text": "超過20萬噸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/375.wav",
        "text": "已經有非常大的壓力了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/376.wav",
        "text": "讓稻農本身的整個收益提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/377.wav",
        "text": "應該還有其他的方法去促成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/378.wav",
        "text": "而不是純粹只是提高公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/379.wav",
        "text": "因為公糧只占整個稻穀收穫裡面的30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/380.wav",
        "text": "剩下的70%都是產地的一些民糧在收購的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/381.wav",
        "text": "如果我們想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/382.wav",
        "text": "讓民糧的價格能夠提升的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/383.wav",
        "text": "同樣的對稻農的收益也是會提升的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/384.wav",
        "text": "一直從這方面去思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/385.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣讓70%的這些民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/386.wav",
        "text": "收購價格能夠提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/387.wav",
        "text": "所以我們思考了很多配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/388.wav",
        "text": "那相關的配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/389.wav",
        "text": "我們大概從整個稻米產業來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/390.wav",
        "text": "現在有太多的稻米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/391.wav",
        "text": "產量非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/392.wav",
        "text": "但是它很不耐現在的極端天候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/393.wav",
        "text": "所以往往是產量很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/394.wav",
        "text": "但是品質並不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/395.wav",
        "text": "然後一旦遇到極端天候的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/396.wav",
        "text": "農民也會造成損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/397.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/398.wav",
        "text": "所以我們第一個政策就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/399.wav",
        "text": "我們會提高獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/400.wav",
        "text": "品質不好的品種能夠往優質的品種去走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/401.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/402.wav",
        "text": "集團產區的契作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/403.wav",
        "text": "就是大概26元到29"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/404.wav",
        "text": "元所以第二個作為就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/405.wav",
        "text": "讓這些農民能夠集合變成集團產區的栽培"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/406.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/407.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/408.wav",
        "text": "特別剛才有委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/409.wav",
        "text": "一些雜糧轉作的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/410.wav",
        "text": "如果我們只處理公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/411.wav",
        "text": "不處理雜糧的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/412.wav",
        "text": "包括糧食安全的一些風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/413.wav",
        "text": "及面積能夠維持大概目前的24萬公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/414.wav",
        "text": "以我們專業的這些計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/415.wav",
        "text": "如果產量維持在24萬公頃的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/416.wav",
        "text": "而透過這種不種稻獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/417.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵他去種植所謂的旱作雜糧時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/418.wav",
        "text": "一方面也照顧到這些種植雜糧的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/419.wav",
        "text": "另一方面也因為種植雜糧的農民增加以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/420.wav",
        "text": "稻作的面積不會減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/421.wav",
        "text": "\n我們希望透過一極──就是極端產區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/422.wav",
        "text": "二轉就是轉作的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/423.wav",
        "text": "我們一定至少能夠提高整個公糧大概3塊以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/424.wav",
        "text": "配合下去的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/425.wav",
        "text": "而且也同時能夠兼顧其他產業農民的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/426.wav",
        "text": "今天是針對稻穀收購的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/427.wav",
        "text": "你現在的回答是說請他們不要去種稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/428.wav",
        "text": "他可以得到更好的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/429.wav",
        "text": "這個邏輯有一點奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/430.wav",
        "text": "莊瑞雄委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/431.wav",
        "text": "再來就是鍾佳濱委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/432.wav",
        "text": "部長我簡單向你請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/433.wav",
        "text": "朝野協商也不用搞得這麼緊張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/434.wav",
        "text": "現在繳交公糧是百分之多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/435.wav",
        "text": "到底是10%還是30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/436.wav",
        "text": "整體來講30%是繳交公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/437.wav",
        "text": "70%是繳交民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/438.wav",
        "text": "這樣你有一個大問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/439.wav",
        "text": "喔譬如說我繳交公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/440.wav",
        "text": "假設你把它提高的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/441.wav",
        "text": "這會不會影響到那70%民糧的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/442.wav",
        "text": "對這個就是我們所擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/443.wav",
        "text": "當年他們為了買稻米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/444.wav",
        "text": "當年70%的民糧也會提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/445.wav",
        "text": "可是相對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/446.wav",
        "text": "大家覺得種稻好賺的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/447.wav",
        "text": "就有很多人變成種植水稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/448.wav",
        "text": "當產量高的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/449.wav",
        "text": "公糧收購是有限的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/450.wav",
        "text": "到時候70%民糧的量變多以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/451.wav",
        "text": "它的價格反而不會跟公糧一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/452.wav",
        "text": "反而會更低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/453.wav",
        "text": "所以我要問的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/454.wav",
        "text": "畢竟繳交公糧的部分是少數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/455.wav",
        "text": "我比較擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/456.wav",
        "text": "你現在提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/457.wav",
        "text": "當然大家都希望農民很開心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/458.wav",
        "text": "收益會更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/459.wav",
        "text": "你到底有沒有辦法去確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/460.wav",
        "text": "這30%繳交公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/461.wav",
        "text": "不衝擊到70%民糧的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/462.wav",
        "text": "對這是我們要考慮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/463.wav",
        "text": "就是當如果純粹提高公糧收購的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/464.wav",
        "text": "勢必會衝擊到70%的民糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/465.wav",
        "text": "稻穀產量足夠的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/466.wav",
        "text": "不會提高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/467.wav",
        "text": "種植面積再增加的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/468.wav",
        "text": "那更糟糕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/469.wav",
        "text": "對那個價格會更低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/470.wav",
        "text": "所以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/471.wav",
        "text": "一下我們照順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/472.wav",
        "text": "啦請還沒發言的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/473.wav",
        "text": "我印象中是通知1點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/474.wav",
        "text": "啦我提早1點以前來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/475.wav",
        "text": "怎麼現在已經講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/476.wav",
        "text": "好像要做結論了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/477.wav",
        "text": "是不是主席說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/478.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們本來是通知1點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/479.wav",
        "text": "我們在今天的會議當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/480.wav",
        "text": "都有說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/481.wav",
        "text": "對是在會議進行中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/482.wav",
        "text": "會議中已經有說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/483.wav",
        "text": "也請各黨團去通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/484.wav",
        "text": "謝謝請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/485.wav",
        "text": "主席不用這麼兇啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/486.wav",
        "text": "請發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/487.wav",
        "text": "的時候我都很尊重你\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/488.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得部長說到一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/489.wav",
        "text": "我們都希望農民的收入提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/490.wav",
        "text": "無論種紅豆種雜糧的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/491.wav",
        "text": "我們都希望他的收入提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/492.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/493.wav",
        "text": "我們是在幫農民的收益講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/494.wav",
        "text": "\n主席說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/495.wav",
        "text": "今天我們只處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/496.wav",
        "text": "我要修正一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/497.wav",
        "text": "我們在處理的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/498.wav",
        "text": "各農業縣農民的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/499.wav",
        "text": "牽一髮動全身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/500.wav",
        "text": "能不能都同時被照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/501.wav",
        "text": "都同時被提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/502.wav",
        "text": "這是重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/503.wav",
        "text": "我們不要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/504.wav",
        "text": "挖東牆補西牆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/505.wav",
        "text": "農業生產市場機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/506.wav",
        "text": "有它的一套邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/507.wav",
        "text": "表面上我們看來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/508.wav",
        "text": "比如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/509.wav",
        "text": "農民就一直種香蕉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/510.wav",
        "text": "一直買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/511.wav",
        "text": "像今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/512.wav",
        "text": "我們就在煩惱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/513.wav",
        "text": "了香蕉種這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/514.wav",
        "text": "農民就在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/515.wav",
        "text": "我看這下剛好敗市了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/516.wav",
        "text": "所以我們國內的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/517.wav",
        "text": "不只在種植上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/518.wav",
        "text": "要承擔天災的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/519.wav",
        "text": "在產銷秩序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/520.wav",
        "text": "要承受市場價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/521.wav",
        "text": "波動的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/522.wav",
        "text": "而市場價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/523.wav",
        "text": "有它的規律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/524.wav",
        "text": "我們人為的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/525.wav",
        "text": "有它的限度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/526.wav",
        "text": "\n所以今天關於部長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/527.wav",
        "text": "我就要求你要說一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/528.wav",
        "text": "因為我們屏東還有種紅豆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/529.wav",
        "text": "就像剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/530.wav",
        "text": "大家都來種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/531.wav",
        "text": "好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/532.wav",
        "text": "你明年都要收喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/533.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/534.wav",
        "text": "我只要加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/535.wav",
        "text": "你們會不會繼續收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/536.wav",
        "text": "我的量增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/537.wav",
        "text": "你會不會繼續收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/538.wav",
        "text": "如果你沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/539.wav",
        "text": "大家都來種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/540.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/541.wav",
        "text": "我覺得公糧的收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/542.wav",
        "text": "不能只看稻農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/543.wav",
        "text": "你要看屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/544.wav",
        "text": "不只稻農而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/545.wav",
        "text": "還有很多農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/546.wav",
        "text": "農民要種什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/547.wav",
        "text": "你種紅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/548.wav",
        "text": "這不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/549.wav",
        "text": "但你說的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/550.wav",
        "text": "不是公糧收購價格而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/551.wav",
        "text": "要考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/552.wav",
        "text": "全體不只屏東縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/553.wav",
        "text": "全體農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/554.wav",
        "text": "受到市場價格波動這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/555.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/556.wav",
        "text": "我主席臺在這邊再說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/557.wav",
        "text": "我也非常尊重每一位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/558.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/559.wav",
        "text": "有題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/560.wav",
        "text": "當然每一個類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/561.wav",
        "text": "我們都關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/562.wav",
        "text": "我說藍綠白的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/563.wav",
        "text": "都關心我們的農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/564.wav",
        "text": "但我們今天是朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/565.wav",
        "text": "我們協商是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/566.wav",
        "text": "公糧稻穀收購的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/567.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊跟你說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/568.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/569.wav",
        "text": "邱議瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/570.wav",
        "text": "講完我們就來做結論謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/571.wav",
        "text": "部長我強烈質疑你的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/572.wav",
        "text": "因為現在你說民間收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/573.wav",
        "text": "一公斤不到10塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/574.wav",
        "text": "一公斤不到10塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/575.wav",
        "text": "耶我強烈質疑你的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/576.wav",
        "text": "你現在說不提高公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/577.wav",
        "text": "否則民糧會跟著提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/578.wav",
        "text": "那你這個立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/579.wav",
        "text": "不是在保護農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/580.wav",
        "text": "你是在保護糧商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/581.wav",
        "text": "你是不是站在糧商的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/582.wav",
        "text": "我沒有辦法接受你這樣的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/583.wav",
        "text": "就是說我們的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/584.wav",
        "text": "現在也不能回答我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/585.wav",
        "text": "我現在就是強烈質疑你剛才的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/586.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有站在稻農的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/587.wav",
        "text": "而是站在糧商的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/588.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/589.wav",
        "text": "我想公糧保價收購這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/590.wav",
        "text": "其實在地方討論很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/591.wav",
        "text": "雖然我的選區是農業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/592.wav",
        "text": "但基本上我個人的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/593.wav",
        "text": "是認為過去的幾年之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/594.wav",
        "text": "農業部對於保價收購這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/595.wav",
        "text": "做了很多不同政策面向的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/596.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要給予肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/597.wav",
        "text": "而且我想不只全臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/598.wav",
        "text": "全世界也沒有所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/599.wav",
        "text": "如果對於繳交公糧用保價收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/600.wav",
        "text": "那其他的農產品怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/601.wav",
        "text": "要不要也保價收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/602.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得農業部對於不保價收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/603.wav",
        "text": "但是對於如何提高糧食安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/604.wav",
        "text": "以及如何提高稻農農民的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/605.wav",
        "text": "其實做了各種不同面向的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/606.wav",
        "text": "如果我們不提高公糧收購的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/607.wav",
        "text": "其實農業部應該可以提出更不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/608.wav",
        "text": "比如說對地補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/609.wav",
        "text": "等等其他的補貼政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/610.wav",
        "text": "甚至鼓勵種雜糧的這些政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/611.wav",
        "text": "我覺得都應該要讓各地區的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/612.wav",
        "text": "這是事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/613.wav",
        "text": "其他的五穀雜糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/614.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們在這一方面的輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/615.wav",
        "text": "其實更是相形重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/616.wav",
        "text": "你今天提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/617.wav",
        "text": "保價收購加8塊加10塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/618.wav",
        "text": "能夠真正解決問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/619.wav",
        "text": "不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/620.wav",
        "text": "那你把所有這些農業基金的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/621.wav",
        "text": "用在公糧收購上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/622.wav",
        "text": "你對其他的農民對其他的農產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/623.wav",
        "text": "是合理的嗎是公平的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/624.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個可能大家要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/625.wav",
        "text": "更深一層地去思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/626.wav",
        "text": "各位同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/627.wav",
        "text": "非常地感謝大家我們在中午時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/628.wav",
        "text": "重點就是大家不分藍綠白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/629.wav",
        "text": "行政部門大家都希望讓我們的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/630.wav",
        "text": "有更好的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/631.wav",
        "text": "經濟價值可以提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/632.wav",
        "text": "所以聽到大家充分的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/633.wav",
        "text": "行政部門的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/634.wav",
        "text": "委員所提出的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/635.wav",
        "text": "似乎還有很大的差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/636.wav",
        "text": "所以容許主席臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/637.wav",
        "text": "做這樣子的一個決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/638.wav",
        "text": "本日協商仍無法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/639.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/640.wav",
        "text": "以及台灣民眾黨黨團所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/641.wav",
        "text": "修正動議均保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/642.wav",
        "text": "送請院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/643.wav",
        "text": "請農業部基於農為國本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/644.wav",
        "text": "以農立國落實照顧農民的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/645.wav",
        "text": "思考公糧收購的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/646.wav",
        "text": "請你們完整地思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/647.wav",
        "text": "我們請它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/648.wav",
        "text": "在我們送院會之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/649.wav",
        "text": "要協商前提出方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/650.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/651.wav",
        "text": "請說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/652.wav",
        "text": "主席不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/653.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天的協商沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/654.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是再一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/655.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是送院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/656.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/657.wav",
        "text": "但您剛剛的裁示是直接送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/658.wav",
        "text": "院會就是院長一定要先協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/659.wav",
        "text": "我們通常都會講送院長主持黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/660.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛這樣的講法是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/661.wav",
        "text": "直接送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/662.wav",
        "text": "你還是要尊重一下我們的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/663.wav",
        "text": "請說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/664.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/665.wav",
        "text": "今天協商的意見不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/666.wav",
        "text": "但是我們並沒有同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/667.wav",
        "text": "要做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/668.wav",
        "text": "所以您剛剛的裁示是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/669.wav",
        "text": "就公糧收購的價格這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/670.wav",
        "text": "要去做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/671.wav",
        "text": "這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/672.wav",
        "text": "跟我們剛剛的意見表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/673.wav",
        "text": "基本上是不太一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/674.wav",
        "text": "好我說明喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/675.wav",
        "text": "因為我們一般送請院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/676.wav",
        "text": "就是院長會召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/677.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們的規矩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/678.wav",
        "text": "你如果還要指名院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/679.wav",
        "text": "院長就是院會嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/680.wav",
        "text": "我們的文字就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/681.wav",
        "text": "一定會院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/682.wav",
        "text": "所以我們保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/683.wav",
        "text": "就是要送院會之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/684.wav",
        "text": "一定是會院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/685.wav",
        "text": "這是我們的規矩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/686.wav",
        "text": "如果你要加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/687.wav",
        "text": "送請院長處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/688.wav",
        "text": "這個邏輯很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/689.wav",
        "text": "是院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/690.wav",
        "text": "我覺得那個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/691.wav",
        "text": "要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/692.wav",
        "text": "送請院長召集朝野協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/693.wav",
        "text": "因為你如果只有寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/694.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/695.wav",
        "text": "那我很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/696.wav",
        "text": "我很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/697.wav",
        "text": "你的案子也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/698.wav",
        "text": "你協商也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/699.wav",
        "text": "要送院會處理啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/700.wav",
        "text": "送院會處理啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/701.wav",
        "text": "主秘你講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/702.wav",
        "text": "通常是怎麼寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/703.wav",
        "text": "因為院會就代表所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/704.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/705.wav",
        "text": "我們送院會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/706.wav",
        "text": "之前也是在院長那邊協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/707.wav",
        "text": "一定要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/708.wav",
        "text": "這是基本規矩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/709.wav",
        "text": "文字沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/710.wav",
        "text": "一定要院長協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/711.wav",
        "text": "對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/712.wav",
        "text": "你這樣子寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/713.wav",
        "text": "細項太奇怪了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/714.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/715.wav",
        "text": "那我們就送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/716.wav",
        "text": "剛剛邱議瑩委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/717.wav",
        "text": "因為我們今天的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/718.wav",
        "text": "是針對公糧收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/719.wav",
        "text": "所以我也充分尊重大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/720.wav",
        "text": "也就是農為國本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/721.wav",
        "text": "政策思考公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/722.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有定什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/723.wav",
        "text": "就針對今天的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/724.wav",
        "text": "由行政部門去提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/725.wav",
        "text": "在院長協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/726.wav",
        "text": "大家再去做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/727.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/728.wav",
        "text": "主席我是不是可以建議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/729.wav",
        "text": "不要用思考公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/730.wav",
        "text": "用思考公糧收購政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/731.wav",
        "text": "因為你用價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/732.wav",
        "text": "就是表示價格一定是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/733.wav",
        "text": "可是今天我們兩個政黨所提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/734.wav",
        "text": "的是價格問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/735.wav",
        "text": "邱召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/736.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的議案是價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/737.wav",
        "text": "我們要頭尾都一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/738.wav",
        "text": "但是現在我們協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/739.wav",
        "text": "要說的是政策問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/740.wav",
        "text": "不是我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/741.wav",
        "text": "是針對兩黨所提的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/742.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/743.wav",
        "text": "是針對今天的議案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/744.wav",
        "text": "然後再去做協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/745.wav",
        "text": "本席再次說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/746.wav",
        "text": "本日協商仍無法達成共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/747.wav",
        "text": "國民黨黨團提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/748.wav",
        "text": "以及台灣民眾黨黨團所提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/749.wav",
        "text": "修正動議均保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/750.wav",
        "text": "院會處理前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/751.wav",
        "text": "以農立國落實照顧農民政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/752.wav",
        "text": "思考公糧收購價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16047/753.wav",
        "text": "現在散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/0.wav",
        "text": "如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/1.wav",
        "text": "你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/2.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/3.wav",
        "text": "已經降低7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/4.wav",
        "text": "覺得像剛剛丁學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/5.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/6.wav",
        "text": "來解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/7.wav",
        "text": "漲了現在沒有要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/8.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/9.wav",
        "text": "了已經有非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16042/10.wav",
        "text": "到大家充分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/0.wav",
        "text": "我們就以這個對照表來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/1.wav",
        "text": "委員會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/2.wav",
        "text": "我們有個四欄式的條文對照表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/3.wav",
        "text": "我逐項從第5條開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/4.wav",
        "text": "第5條部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/5.wav",
        "text": "我們會把開發型這個定義"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/6.wav",
        "text": "因為將來在第49條之3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/7.wav",
        "text": "3還是有一些相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/8.wav",
        "text": "實質規範內容存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/9.wav",
        "text": "伍委員和陳玉珍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/10.wav",
        "text": "公共建設部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/11.wav",
        "text": "我們建議不用在條文裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/12.wav",
        "text": "特別去敘述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/13.wav",
        "text": "將來只要在說明欄敘述就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/14.wav",
        "text": "就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/15.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議維持原來條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/16.wav",
        "text": "第5條第十二款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/17.wav",
        "text": "款不動產的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/18.wav",
        "text": "將來我們在說明欄敘"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/19.wav",
        "text": "定義的附屬設施"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/20.wav",
        "text": "的概念是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/21.wav",
        "text": "建議條文修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/22.wav",
        "text": "梁\n接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/23.wav",
        "text": "第49條之3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/24.wav",
        "text": "加在條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/25.wav",
        "text": "再看委員有沒有其他意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/26.wav",
        "text": "第3項第5項第6項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/27.wav",
        "text": "看是要用行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/28.wav",
        "text": "還是將來把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/29.wav",
        "text": "三五六項這幾個內容刪除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/30.wav",
        "text": "當然將來在子法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/31.wav",
        "text": "再作說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/32.wav",
        "text": "敘述清楚就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/33.wav",
        "text": "增訂第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/34.wav",
        "text": "之3的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/35.wav",
        "text": "按照金管會建議條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/36.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/37.wav",
        "text": "就是不放入社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/38.wav",
        "text": "還是會放入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/39.wav",
        "text": "本來就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/40.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅本來就不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/41.wav",
        "text": "在這邊處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/42.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來是增訂第49條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/43.wav",
        "text": "之1涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/44.wav",
        "text": "稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/45.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/46.wav",
        "text": "是增訂第49條之看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/47.wav",
        "text": "財政部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/48.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/49.wav",
        "text": "我們還是建議採行政院版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/50.wav",
        "text": "主要有兩個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/51.wav",
        "text": "把營利事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/52.wav",
        "text": "獲配利息所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/53.wav",
        "text": "分離課稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/54.wav",
        "text": "目前我們營利事業基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/55.wav",
        "text": "都沒有分離課稅這樣的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/56.wav",
        "text": "主要有兩個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/57.wav",
        "text": "十年虧損扣除的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/58.wav",
        "text": "如果現在你讓它分離"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/59.wav",
        "text": "它就不能盈虧互抵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/60.wav",
        "text": "就會有成本費用分攤的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/61.wav",
        "text": "這在我們稽徵上是非常複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/62.wav",
        "text": "在過往的例子裡面這種爭訟"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/63.wav",
        "text": "的案件非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/64.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是建議維持行政院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/65.wav",
        "text": "財政部的意見就是按照行政院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/66.wav",
        "text": "像REITs所持有的土地"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/67.wav",
        "text": "我們目前統計大概主要是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/68.wav",
        "text": "雙北和桃園"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/69.wav",
        "text": "因為委員建議的條文是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/70.wav",
        "text": "基金的土地不要用累進課稅"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/71.wav",
        "text": "全部用單一稅率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/72.wav",
        "text": "千分之十來課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/73.wav",
        "text": "大家現在都在討論地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/74.wav",
        "text": "財政收入夠不夠的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/75.wav",
        "text": "這幾個縣市一定會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/76.wav",
        "text": "覺得沒辦法承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/77.wav",
        "text": "這樣的稅損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/78.wav",
        "text": "所以署長還是建議照行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/79.wav",
        "text": "對我們建議照行政院版的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/80.wav",
        "text": "提案通過有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/81.wav",
        "text": "\n處理第49條之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/82.wav",
        "text": "因為第49條之9和十八"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/83.wav",
        "text": "是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/84.wav",
        "text": "十八是新設一個基金"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/85.wav",
        "text": "然後把原來的吸收合併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/86.wav",
        "text": "它本身是整個概括承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/87.wav",
        "text": "但第49條之9是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/88.wav",
        "text": "合併成一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/89.wav",
        "text": "目前我們所有的合併都要做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/90.wav",
        "text": "結算的動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/91.wav",
        "text": "所以它不是所謂的非屬課稅範圍的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/92.wav",
        "text": "而是要依稅法徵免所得稅的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/93.wav",
        "text": "我們建議按照行政院版條文通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/94.wav",
        "text": "各位有無意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/95.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來處理不動產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/96.wav",
        "text": "第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/97.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/98.wav",
        "text": "併案協商的是第六十二條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/99.wav",
        "text": "針對第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/100.wav",
        "text": "的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/101.wav",
        "text": "不得投資於住宅法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/102.wav",
        "text": "第三條第一款所定的住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/103.wav",
        "text": "建議條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/104.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/105.wav",
        "text": "住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/106.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有含社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/107.wav",
        "text": "有包含社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/108.wav",
        "text": "是有明確含社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/109.wav",
        "text": "我是主張"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/110.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅應該"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/111.wav",
        "text": "納進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/112.wav",
        "text": "這個法源適不適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/113.wav",
        "text": "要排除"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/114.wav",
        "text": "讓社會住宅可以進來這個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/115.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/116.wav",
        "text": "用REITs的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/117.wav",
        "text": "其實比較不高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/118.wav",
        "text": "因為我們必須要創造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/119.wav",
        "text": "這是我的一個主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/120.wav",
        "text": "政策面的部分還是請"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/121.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅為什麼沒有納入"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/122.wav",
        "text": "這部分其實在院版當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/123.wav",
        "text": "初規劃的時候就考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/124.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就不把社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/125.wav",
        "text": "住宅納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/126.wav",
        "text": "所以院版的時候就不把社會住宅納進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/127.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/128.wav",
        "text": "看不到社會住宅這個話題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/129.wav",
        "text": "也就是說社會住宅的資金"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/130.wav",
        "text": "用另外的方式籌募"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/131.wav",
        "text": "而不是透過這個方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/132.wav",
        "text": "我所提出來的版本其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/133.wav",
        "text": "就是摒除社會住宅"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/134.wav",
        "text": "我們知道從去年開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/135.wav",
        "text": "首購的壓力我們也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/136.wav",
        "text": "可是最近的新聞大家也看到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/137.wav",
        "text": "新青安的美意其實是為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/138.wav",
        "text": "讓青年首購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/139.wav",
        "text": "能夠減輕房貸壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/140.wav",
        "text": "但是美意就因為幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/141.wav",
        "text": "害群之馬的案例新青安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/142.wav",
        "text": "現在變成回過頭來要重新檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/143.wav",
        "text": "30年拉到40年其實這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/144.wav",
        "text": "都是因為蛋黃區和蛋白區的差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/145.wav",
        "text": "我們也不希望好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/146.wav",
        "text": "變成稍微接近蛋黃區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/147.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我會拉到有關新青安"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/148.wav",
        "text": "在座大家都知道REITs"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/149.wav",
        "text": "是一個投資性的商品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/150.wav",
        "text": "讓它用證券化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/151.wav",
        "text": "的方式去投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/152.wav",
        "text": "這些比較龐大的物件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/153.wav",
        "text": "但是它既然是投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/154.wav",
        "text": "就要獲利可是大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/155.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅的用意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/156.wav",
        "text": "是什麼就是跟新青安一樣是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/157.wav",
        "text": "協助在經濟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/158.wav",
        "text": "相對比較弱勢的人能夠在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/159.wav",
        "text": "合理的價格在合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/160.wav",
        "text": "承租他們可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/161.wav",
        "text": "負擔得起的住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/162.wav",
        "text": "房價正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/163.wav",
        "text": "一邊是獲利當兩者衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/164.wav",
        "text": "跟矛盾的時候如果出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/165.wav",
        "text": "了這樣的案例的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/166.wav",
        "text": "我們今天修法如果把這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/167.wav",
        "text": "門打開未來我們可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/168.wav",
        "text": "就要承擔一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/169.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅有租金的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/170.wav",
        "text": "講求的是便宜的租金這叫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/171.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅可是追求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/172.wav",
        "text": "收益報酬的REITs是投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/173.wav",
        "text": "人本身必須追求獲利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/174.wav",
        "text": "這兩者我相信在簡單的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/175.wav",
        "text": "上面是互斥的所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/176.wav",
        "text": "修法不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/177.wav",
        "text": "只有一次這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/178.wav",
        "text": "就把社會住宅打開放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/179.wav",
        "text": "這個法案要進入三讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/180.wav",
        "text": "的時候我們要面對的社會壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/181.wav",
        "text": "我希望大家能夠思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/182.wav",
        "text": "所以在我的版本是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/183.wav",
        "text": "院版不放進社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/184.wav",
        "text": "而根據住宅法的第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/185.wav",
        "text": "規定本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/186.wav",
        "text": "有三個定義住宅社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/187.wav",
        "text": "和公益出租人我建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/188.wav",
        "text": "在現在打房的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/189.wav",
        "text": "經濟大原則之下尤其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/190.wav",
        "text": "最近房價又高漲請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/191.wav",
        "text": "三思我還是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/192.wav",
        "text": "必須要把一定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/193.wav",
        "text": "REITs是一件好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/194.wav",
        "text": "我也不希望REITs在大眾不了解的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/195.wav",
        "text": "社宅不是住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/196.wav",
        "text": "一個公共的建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/197.wav",
        "text": "我認為社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/198.wav",
        "text": "的錢應該要由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/199.wav",
        "text": "國家來出國家來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/200.wav",
        "text": "出的話現在我們成立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/201.wav",
        "text": "12萬戶裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/202.wav",
        "text": "借了4,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/203.wav",
        "text": "中心來蓋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/204.wav",
        "text": "4,000億元這個會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/205.wav",
        "text": "不會造成政府的舉債"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/206.wav",
        "text": "這個4,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/207.wav",
        "text": "元是不是已經動撥了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/208.wav",
        "text": "每個月的利息是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/209.wav",
        "text": "多少錢誰有辦法回答我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/210.wav",
        "text": "有其他經主管機關核准投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/211.wav",
        "text": "或運用之標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/212.wav",
        "text": "真的有需要用到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/213.wav",
        "text": "可以用這個條文由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/214.wav",
        "text": "主管機關來核准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/215.wav",
        "text": "來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/216.wav",
        "text": "4,000億元已經動撥了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/217.wav",
        "text": "我們要支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/218.wav",
        "text": "的利息所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/219.wav",
        "text": "有沒有想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/220.wav",
        "text": "元未來可能也是政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/221.wav",
        "text": "負債為什麼不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/222.wav",
        "text": "可以做得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/223.wav",
        "text": "資金的部分除了聯貸之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/224.wav",
        "text": "還可以發行債券"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/225.wav",
        "text": "相關部會都有在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/226.wav",
        "text": "那時候就有討論到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/227.wav",
        "text": "老實說依照目前臺灣資金這麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/228.wav",
        "text": "並不是非常困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/229.wav",
        "text": "重點其實在於R"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/230.wav",
        "text": "投資要獲利在獲利的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/231.wav",
        "text": "社會住宅標的是屬於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/232.wav",
        "text": "比較社會公益就像林楚茵委員剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/233.wav",
        "text": "一樣的道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/234.wav",
        "text": "過度的商品化可能就會變成炒作的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/235.wav",
        "text": "是在什麼地方它其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/236.wav",
        "text": "工具可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/237.wav",
        "text": "困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/238.wav",
        "text": "對焦的感覺我覺得兩邊可能沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/239.wav",
        "text": "對焦上我相信社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/240.wav",
        "text": "它的fund不應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/241.wav",
        "text": "由REITs來出它本來應該本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/242.wav",
        "text": "就有資金只是它開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/243.wav",
        "text": "讓民間可以有機會投資進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/244.wav",
        "text": "要獲利對於現在的一般"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/245.wav",
        "text": "投資人來講我擔心的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/246.wav",
        "text": "你把社會住宅放進來剛剛內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/247.wav",
        "text": "有講其實裡面有附帶的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/248.wav",
        "text": "不是完全把它排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/249.wav",
        "text": "如果必要的時候是不是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/250.wav",
        "text": "放進來內政部剛剛所講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/251.wav",
        "text": "哪一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/252.wav",
        "text": "就是到時候主管機關金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/253.wav",
        "text": "都有社宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/254.wav",
        "text": "每一個社宅的狀況也不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/255.wav",
        "text": "把全國的社宅都放入一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/256.wav",
        "text": "可以成為衍生性金融"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/257.wav",
        "text": "商品商品化標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/258.wav",
        "text": "的時候我個人還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/259.wav",
        "text": "社宅也可以變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/260.wav",
        "text": "不動產證券化的商品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/261.wav",
        "text": "你只要簡略的去解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/262.wav",
        "text": "我覺得就說不過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/263.wav",
        "text": "所以顯然社宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/264.wav",
        "text": "獲利的商品嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/265.wav",
        "text": "認為賴惠員委員的提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/266.wav",
        "text": "興建社宅的過程中需要龐大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/267.wav",
        "text": "資金政府的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/268.wav",
        "text": "包括地方政府和中央政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/269.wav",
        "text": "有大眾的力量當然是更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/270.wav",
        "text": "但是我並不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/271.wav",
        "text": "現在就開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/272.wav",
        "text": "住宅進來因為它很容易被簡略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/273.wav",
        "text": "社宅可以投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/274.wav",
        "text": "可以炒作可以獲利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/275.wav",
        "text": "這個連結到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/276.wav",
        "text": "我舉個例子臺北市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/277.wav",
        "text": "就有一間社宅一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/278.wav",
        "text": "要4萬多元當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/279.wav",
        "text": "剛推出來的時候就引發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/280.wav",
        "text": "媒體的爭論和討論覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/281.wav",
        "text": "4萬多元這麼貴是誰租得起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/282.wav",
        "text": "可是那個就是臺北市的蛋黃區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/283.wav",
        "text": "以這個個案來看我不知道現在蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/284.wav",
        "text": "蛋黃區的月租金多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/285.wav",
        "text": "但是當它一旦要做合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/286.wav",
        "text": "的調漲的時候會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/287.wav",
        "text": "被誤會為是因為它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/288.wav",
        "text": "回收所以我認為社宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/289.wav",
        "text": "還是應該站在公益性角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/290.wav",
        "text": "步驟我覺得會比較保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/291.wav",
        "text": "其實如果成為投資標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/292.wav",
        "text": "的為了收益通常租金會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/293.wav",
        "text": "愈來愈高反而會失去原來設置社宅的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/294.wav",
        "text": "啦這是不一樣沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/295.wav",
        "text": "我手上也有一項資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/296.wav",
        "text": "這是BOT案例在新北市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/297.wav",
        "text": "也是社會住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/298.wav",
        "text": "這件BOT案例就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/299.wav",
        "text": "非常非常地成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/300.wav",
        "text": "BOT其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/301.wav",
        "text": "另一個方式沒有錯但是跟這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/302.wav",
        "text": "不一樣不能這樣類不是這樣的類對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/303.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不是這樣的類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/304.wav",
        "text": "且是建造成本部份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/305.wav",
        "text": "的資金來源RE"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/306.wav",
        "text": "則是股票化股票化就會涉及資金炒作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/307.wav",
        "text": "哪一個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/308.wav",
        "text": "可以跟本席解釋得清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/309.wav",
        "text": "促參司協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/310.wav",
        "text": "民間自償方式所以租金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/311.wav",
        "text": "是由民間機構直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/312.wav",
        "text": "收取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/313.wav",
        "text": "機構的也就是說房子是它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/314.wav",
        "text": "政府對嘛所以我也主張基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/315.wav",
        "text": "社宅屬於公共建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/316.wav",
        "text": "啦\n我是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/317.wav",
        "text": "這樣賴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/318.wav",
        "text": "委員住宅的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/319.wav",
        "text": "不只是社會住宅如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/320.wav",
        "text": "第3條放進去的話是連同一般"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/321.wav",
        "text": "住宅都可能被拿做炒作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/322.wav",
        "text": "標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/323.wav",
        "text": "啦所以針對民間部分若是一般大樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/324.wav",
        "text": "不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/325.wav",
        "text": "大樓都拿來做股票標的的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/326.wav",
        "text": "資金的集中度會愈來愈高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/327.wav",
        "text": "啦\n金管會要不要補充說明一下跟賴委員"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/328.wav",
        "text": "說明一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/329.wav",
        "text": "我先表達一下針對"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/330.wav",
        "text": "針對住宅我們在第49條之3"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/331.wav",
        "text": "用住宅的定義也就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/332.wav",
        "text": "第3條已經排除掉所以剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/333.wav",
        "text": "講的其他那個部分還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/334.wav",
        "text": "不能用因為前面已經排除掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/335.wav",
        "text": "後面也不可能以其他方式適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/336.wav",
        "text": "不可能的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/337.wav",
        "text": "\n拉回到原本的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/338.wav",
        "text": "法社會住宅到底要不要放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/339.wav",
        "text": "是要追求投資收益的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/340.wav",
        "text": "根本格格不入沒辦法進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/341.wav",
        "text": "適用上會有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/342.wav",
        "text": "其實就我所知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/343.wav",
        "text": "委員還是我們用另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/344.wav",
        "text": "賴委員可以接受嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/345.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/346.wav",
        "text": "金管會的建議條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/347.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來還有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/348.wav",
        "text": "第62條跟第64條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/349.wav",
        "text": "先跟大家說明一下第64條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/350.wav",
        "text": "條文的條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/351.wav",
        "text": "條文的條跟大家說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/352.wav",
        "text": "跟第64條金管會請說明一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/353.wav",
        "text": "十二條跟第64條基本上是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/354.wav",
        "text": "配合第十七條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/355.wav",
        "text": "的修正條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/356.wav",
        "text": "相關援引上開條文的條次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/357.wav",
        "text": "一起修正所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/358.wav",
        "text": "委員建議的條文以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/359.wav",
        "text": "好那這一條就按照金管會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/360.wav",
        "text": "建議的條文通過有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/361.wav",
        "text": "見沒有意見通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/362.wav",
        "text": "\n進行第64條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/363.wav",
        "text": "金管會要不要再補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/364.wav",
        "text": "也是配合第22條"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/365.wav",
        "text": "條文修正的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/366.wav",
        "text": "修正第64條援引上開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/367.wav",
        "text": "條文的項次所以我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/368.wav",
        "text": "也併同修正以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/369.wav",
        "text": "以按照金管會建議條文修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/370.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/371.wav",
        "text": "\n請大家稍坐一下我們等一下作結論宣告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/372.wav",
        "text": "兩個召委都來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/373.wav",
        "text": "代表對這項條文的慎重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/374.wav",
        "text": "你要不要補充一下精神講話一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/375.wav",
        "text": "所有會計師公會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/376.wav",
        "text": "包括四大等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/377.wav",
        "text": "他們對REITs都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/378.wav",
        "text": "為是早就應該必須推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/379.wav",
        "text": "可以比較有效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/380.wav",
        "text": "地把它們集合在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/381.wav",
        "text": "發揮最大的功效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/382.wav",
        "text": "讓一些機構法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/383.wav",
        "text": "甚至國外法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/384.wav",
        "text": "總之所有資金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/385.wav",
        "text": "根留臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/386.wav",
        "text": "壯大臺灣我想也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/387.wav",
        "text": "我們大家共同努力的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/388.wav",
        "text": "所以我們都表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/389.wav",
        "text": "支持的意思謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/390.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝羅召委確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/391.wav",
        "text": "現在臺灣的資金實在過度氾濫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/392.wav",
        "text": "需要一個適當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/393.wav",
        "text": "投資標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/394.wav",
        "text": "引導正途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/395.wav",
        "text": "這真的非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/396.wav",
        "text": "現在議事人員在整理協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/397.wav",
        "text": "請大家稍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/398.wav",
        "text": "如下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/399.wav",
        "text": "協商主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/400.wav",
        "text": "法案名稱本院委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/401.wav",
        "text": "郭國文等16人擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/402.wav",
        "text": "不動產證券化條例部分條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/403.wav",
        "text": "修正草案案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/404.wav",
        "text": "二院會逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/405.wav",
        "text": "併案協商委員郭國文等19人擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/406.wav",
        "text": "不動產證券化條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/407.wav",
        "text": "第62條及第64條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/408.wav",
        "text": "條文修正案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/409.wav",
        "text": "協商結論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/410.wav",
        "text": "一第十七條按照委員郭國文等16人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/411.wav",
        "text": "提案修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/412.wav",
        "text": "\n二第62條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/413.wav",
        "text": "照委員郭國文等19人提案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/414.wav",
        "text": "\n三第64條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/415.wav",
        "text": "照委員郭國文等19人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/416.wav",
        "text": "提案修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/417.wav",
        "text": "\n四其餘均照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/418.wav",
        "text": "審查會審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/419.wav",
        "text": "\n還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/420.wav",
        "text": "稍等一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/421.wav",
        "text": "我想這不影響協商條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/422.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我再補充說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/423.wav",
        "text": "開始的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/424.wav",
        "text": "是不是也應該做到投資人的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/425.wav",
        "text": "在子法中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/426.wav",
        "text": "受益人的保護機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/427.wav",
        "text": "至少每年應該召開一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/428.wav",
        "text": "這是我主張的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/429.wav",
        "text": "賴委員確實提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/430.wav",
        "text": "類似受益人會議頻率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/431.wav",
        "text": "\n而因為現在剛上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/432.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們要不要再跟賴委員補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/433.wav",
        "text": "對於剛才委員所講的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/434.wav",
        "text": "我們將來在子法中就會規範將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/435.wav",
        "text": "一年一次的概念對外揭露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/436.wav",
        "text": "但是銀行法這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/437.wav",
        "text": "也要三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/438.wav",
        "text": "謝謝針對REITs部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/439.wav",
        "text": "國外一般都沒有限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/440.wav",
        "text": "必須在100個以內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/441.wav",
        "text": "超過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/442.wav",
        "text": "就有所限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/443.wav",
        "text": "時會不會於對機構投資人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/444.wav",
        "text": "有特別的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/445.wav",
        "text": "就會掛在交易所上市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/446.wav",
        "text": "目前對投資人的身分不會有限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/447.wav",
        "text": "就是投資比較有彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/448.wav",
        "text": "但是對應募人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/449.wav",
        "text": "投資人的資格條件就會有所要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/450.wav",
        "text": "專業投資人的資格條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/451.wav",
        "text": "高淨值投資法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/452.wav",
        "text": "專業投資自然人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/453.wav",
        "text": "也就是有5,000萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/454.wav",
        "text": "資產的一般自然人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/455.wav",
        "text": "法人則是5,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/456.wav",
        "text": "針對私募會有這個要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/457.wav",
        "text": "啦但是公募就不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/458.wav",
        "text": "好我針對私募部分進一步請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/459.wav",
        "text": "像英國美國新加坡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/460.wav",
        "text": "對這方面有這樣的限制嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/461.wav",
        "text": "國外一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/462.wav",
        "text": "其實國外管理規範一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/463.wav",
        "text": "針對公募和私募"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/464.wav",
        "text": "都有不同要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/465.wav",
        "text": "對一般投資人募集跟銷售"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/466.wav",
        "text": "投資人的資格條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/467.wav",
        "text": "落實在一般的KYC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/468.wav",
        "text": "羅召委其實這個投資標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/469.wav",
        "text": "對於很多人來說都是新的投資標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/470.wav",
        "text": "等他們子法完整訂出之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/471.wav",
        "text": "確實不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/472.wav",
        "text": "跟投資人資格的限定就會有所差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/473.wav",
        "text": "又有很多是授權於子法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/474.wav",
        "text": "子法中關於公募跟私募"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/475.wav",
        "text": "的公建比例也會不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/476.wav",
        "text": "一些時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/477.wav",
        "text": "我們看到子法也可以提出比較多建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/478.wav",
        "text": "風險更為降低好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/479.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/480.wav",
        "text": "另一個黨團協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/481.wav",
        "text": "協商主題是行政院函請審議本院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/482.wav",
        "text": "委員郭國文等16人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/483.wav",
        "text": "擬具證券投資信託及顧問法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/484.wav",
        "text": "部分條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/485.wav",
        "text": "等二案及委員林楚茵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/486.wav",
        "text": "等17人擬具證券投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/487.wav",
        "text": "信託及顧問法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/488.wav",
        "text": "第1條第2條及第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/489.wav",
        "text": "之1條文修正草案案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/490.wav",
        "text": "協商結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/491.wav",
        "text": "一第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/492.wav",
        "text": "增訂第49條之3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/493.wav",
        "text": "增訂第49條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/494.wav",
        "text": "及第101條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/495.wav",
        "text": "）均照協商內容通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/496.wav",
        "text": "如後附"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/497.wav",
        "text": "\n二增訂第49條之4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/498.wav",
        "text": "增訂第49條之5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/499.wav",
        "text": "及增訂第49條之9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/500.wav",
        "text": "均照行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/501.wav",
        "text": "提案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/502.wav",
        "text": "\n三其餘均照審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/503.wav",
        "text": "審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/504.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見那就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/505.wav",
        "text": "ign一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16040/506.wav",
        "text": "散會謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/0.wav",
        "text": "我要說明第1項是沒有修正的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/1.wav",
        "text": "針對經法人主管機關核准解散之專案輔導停辦學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/2.wav",
        "text": "其賸餘財產僅限捐贈予退場基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/3.wav",
        "text": "中央機關或公立學校不動產財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/4.wav",
        "text": "只能歸屬於不動產所在地之直轄縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/5.wav",
        "text": "整個社會上對教育深感關切或有志辦學者接辦意願的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/6.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來私立學校的興辦是憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/7.wav",
        "text": "大學更屬於憲法保障學術自由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/8.wav",
        "text": "之制度性保障最重要的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/9.wav",
        "text": "而這項條例現行規定實施到今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/10.wav",
        "text": "主管機關讓人家看起來就是作一種鋸箭式的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/11.wav",
        "text": "也不能改辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/12.wav",
        "text": "會造成教育人才及資源之嚴重耗損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/13.wav",
        "text": "學生受教權學習權及教職員工之工作權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/14.wav",
        "text": "也會受到損害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/15.wav",
        "text": "而這是裡面最弱勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/16.wav",
        "text": "而且受害最大的相關人等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/17.wav",
        "text": "共同興辦教育的理念下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/18.wav",
        "text": "改善私立學校辦學之較優典範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/19.wav",
        "text": "為了不要跟前面的立法概念有所扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/20.wav",
        "text": "也就是第2項跟第3項條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/21.wav",
        "text": "各位可以看資料的左側"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/22.wav",
        "text": "希望在這個部分能夠解決相關的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/23.wav",
        "text": "清理現有債務及接續辦學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/24.wav",
        "text": "等資金擔保重組董事會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/25.wav",
        "text": "增列主管機關委派之公益董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/26.wav",
        "text": "建立財務監理機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/27.wav",
        "text": "這是目前做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/28.wav",
        "text": "一方面可以解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/29.wav",
        "text": "目前私立學校辦學的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/30.wav",
        "text": "另外一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/31.wav",
        "text": "我們也期待能夠透過這樣開展的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/32.wav",
        "text": "讓私立學校辦學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/33.wav",
        "text": "有一些新的可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/34.wav",
        "text": "相關說明是不是可以請大家自行看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/35.wav",
        "text": "或大家有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/36.wav",
        "text": "我還有機會再敘述嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/37.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/38.wav",
        "text": "所以這部份先請大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/39.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/40.wav",
        "text": "和范雲委員剛剛抵達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/41.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/42.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/43.wav",
        "text": "還有學生團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/44.wav",
        "text": "他們非常憂心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/45.wav",
        "text": "的就是這個條例如果通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/46.wav",
        "text": "恐怕會為財團禿鷹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/47.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/48.wav",
        "text": "是針對實質內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/49.wav",
        "text": "我不能了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/50.wav",
        "text": "這個上一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/51.wav",
        "text": "已經不支持的法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/52.wav",
        "text": "為什麼在這一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/53.wav",
        "text": "國民黨團跟民眾黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/54.wav",
        "text": "要直接讓它逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/55.wav",
        "text": "跳過教育及文化委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/56.wav",
        "text": "專業討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/57.wav",
        "text": "非常知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/58.wav",
        "text": "我們教育及文化委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/59.wav",
        "text": "其實沒有什麼黨派色彩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/60.wav",
        "text": "因為教育本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/61.wav",
        "text": "超越黨派的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/62.wav",
        "text": "大家也能夠非常認真地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/63.wav",
        "text": "而且上一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/64.wav",
        "text": "我們通過這部分的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/65.wav",
        "text": "其實對於所有可能狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/66.wav",
        "text": "都做了非常多詳細的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/67.wav",
        "text": "沒有去了解這個過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/68.wav",
        "text": "\n其實根據我們現在設計的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/69.wav",
        "text": "機制進入專案輔導的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/70.wav",
        "text": "本來就有一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/71.wav",
        "text": "兩年輔導諮詢期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/72.wav",
        "text": "在這個過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/73.wav",
        "text": "學校事實上是可能可以改制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/74.wav",
        "text": "或者跟其他學校法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/75.wav",
        "text": "或學校合併"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/76.wav",
        "text": "也可以改辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/77.wav",
        "text": "本來就有這個空間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/78.wav",
        "text": "而且之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/79.wav",
        "text": "很多團體還覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/80.wav",
        "text": "因為會到這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/81.wav",
        "text": "亮燈的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/82.wav",
        "text": "都是財務已經出問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/83.wav",
        "text": "幾乎已經破產了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/84.wav",
        "text": "時間愈拖愈長的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/85.wav",
        "text": "會造成師生人心惶惶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/86.wav",
        "text": "不管是就程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/87.wav",
        "text": "都有非常大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/88.wav",
        "text": "所以我不能夠理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/89.wav",
        "text": "教育及文化委員會的專業討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/90.wav",
        "text": "我在教育及文化委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/91.wav",
        "text": "今年算是第五年的任期中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/92.wav",
        "text": "這非常少見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/93.wav",
        "text": "我印象中沒有這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/94.wav",
        "text": "我非常希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/95.wav",
        "text": "林委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/96.wav",
        "text": "應該怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/97.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠重提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/98.wav",
        "text": "如果真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/99.wav",
        "text": "想要一個好的對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/100.wav",
        "text": "是不是該依照程序來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/101.wav",
        "text": "也就是進入教育及文化委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/102.wav",
        "text": "邀請教育部報告之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/103.wav",
        "text": "如果對於退場條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/104.wav",
        "text": "教育及文化委員會的專業討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/105.wav",
        "text": "按照程序來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/106.wav",
        "text": "委過去在教育及文化委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/107.wav",
        "text": "也都是一起超越黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/108.wav",
        "text": "是不是也不要採取這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/109.wav",
        "text": "跳過教育及文化委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/110.wav",
        "text": "專業討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/111.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/112.wav",
        "text": "討論完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/113.wav",
        "text": "請教育部官員回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/114.wav",
        "text": "發言好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/115.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/116.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/117.wav",
        "text": "大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/118.wav",
        "text": "我們今天針對這項私校退場條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/119.wav",
        "text": "第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/120.wav",
        "text": "召集黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/121.wav",
        "text": "也延續范雲委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/122.wav",
        "text": "就已經有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/123.wav",
        "text": "案輔導的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/124.wav",
        "text": "而修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/125.wav",
        "text": "所增加的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/126.wav",
        "text": "同意改制或合併前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/127.wav",
        "text": "應該要有一年以上時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/128.wav",
        "text": "公開徵求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/129.wav",
        "text": "這種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/130.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可能會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/131.wav",
        "text": "幾個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/132.wav",
        "text": "第一在這個階段如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/133.wav",
        "text": "專案輔導學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/134.wav",
        "text": "所提的改制或合併申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/135.wav",
        "text": "徵求接續辦學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/136.wav",
        "text": "原本要接的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/137.wav",
        "text": "學校就可能會被更換掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/138.wav",
        "text": "如果我們要談的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/139.wav",
        "text": "讓私校可以延續的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/140.wav",
        "text": "就沒有辦法延續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/141.wav",
        "text": "在停辦前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/142.wav",
        "text": "再給一年的公開期間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/143.wav",
        "text": "教師薪資"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/144.wav",
        "text": "和學校的營運費用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/145.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/146.wav",
        "text": "現在學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/147.wav",
        "text": "都已經是在破產的階段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/148.wav",
        "text": "再增加這筆資金的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/149.wav",
        "text": "這些錢其實就會變成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/150.wav",
        "text": "由政府的退場基金吸收"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/151.wav",
        "text": "增加政府的財政負擔"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/152.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要回到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/153.wav",
        "text": "學生跟老師的權益"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/154.wav",
        "text": "如果我們希望真正"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/155.wav",
        "text": "照顧老師跟學生的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/156.wav",
        "text": "就是要延續原本的機制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/157.wav",
        "text": "讓它繼續走"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/158.wav",
        "text": "現在要修正的草案學生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/159.wav",
        "text": "到底要不要安置"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/160.wav",
        "text": "是否還是要轉學"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/161.wav",
        "text": "無法確定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/162.wav",
        "text": "或怎麼樣協助轉職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/163.wav",
        "text": "也都會有很大的影響"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/164.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/165.wav",
        "text": "達到我們預期的效果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/166.wav",
        "text": "裡也還有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/167.wav",
        "text": "鄭正鈐委員的條文"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/168.wav",
        "text": "教育及文化委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/169.wav",
        "text": "跟評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/170.wav",
        "text": "我們想要達到的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/171.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/172.wav",
        "text": "陳培瑜委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/173.wav",
        "text": "接下來是林宜瑾委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/174.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/175.wav",
        "text": "今天召開這場討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/176.wav",
        "text": "其實在剛剛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/177.wav",
        "text": "林倩綺委員的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/178.wav",
        "text": "提案說明當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/179.wav",
        "text": "我沒有看出"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/180.wav",
        "text": "顯示為什麼要變成這個版本"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/181.wav",
        "text": "怎麼說呢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/182.wav",
        "text": "根據目前林委員的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/183.wav",
        "text": "同意改制合併停辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/184.wav",
        "text": "改辦清算完成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/185.wav",
        "text": "都要求須公開"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/186.wav",
        "text": "徵求他人接手"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/187.wav",
        "text": "林委員您知不知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/188.wav",
        "text": "在您的流程當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/189.wav",
        "text": "會有好幾次的公開徵求"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/190.wav",
        "text": "來延宕學校的退場程序"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/191.wav",
        "text": "\n我必須嚴正指出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/192.wav",
        "text": "這裡面會有什麼很大的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/193.wav",
        "text": "以我自己協助過的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/194.wav",
        "text": "私校來說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/195.wav",
        "text": "我就不特別具名"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/196.wav",
        "text": "他們一旦遇到您所說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/197.wav",
        "text": "還提到一年以上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/198.wav",
        "text": "又沒有設上限"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/199.wav",
        "text": "這麼長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/200.wav",
        "text": "這麼不確定"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/201.wav",
        "text": "必要時得延長之"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/202.wav",
        "text": "在你自己的版本裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/203.wav",
        "text": "面既沒有次數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/204.wav",
        "text": "也沒有時間上限"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/205.wav",
        "text": "等於要無限延長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/206.wav",
        "text": "我想要問"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/207.wav",
        "text": "難道您真的想讓"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/208.wav",
        "text": "這些私校殭屍化嗎"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/209.wav",
        "text": "他們會活不下去又死不掉"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/210.wav",
        "text": "若活不下去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/211.wav",
        "text": "就如剛剛范雲委員所說的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/212.wav",
        "text": "所有退場基金的墊付"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/213.wav",
        "text": "必須由教育部"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/214.wav",
        "text": "這邊來承擔"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/215.wav",
        "text": "對於學校裡"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/216.wav",
        "text": "老師跟學生的相關權益"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/217.wav",
        "text": "你又把它放在哪裡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/218.wav",
        "text": "而死不掉的意思就是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/219.wav",
        "text": "你讓它無限次數"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/220.wav",
        "text": "無限時間延長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/221.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得完全沒有討論"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/222.wav",
        "text": "或是在教育及文化委員會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/223.wav",
        "text": "完全都沒有看到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/224.wav",
        "text": "您想要提出來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/225.wav",
        "text": "跟所有委員討論的痕跡"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/226.wav",
        "text": "嚴正地指出"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/227.wav",
        "text": "以您在相關法條上的說明"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/228.wav",
        "text": "其實真的就已經"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/229.wav",
        "text": "會造成後續很多學校"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/230.wav",
        "text": "若要退場將遇到"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/231.wav",
        "text": "私校殭屍化"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/232.wav",
        "text": "它死不掉"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/233.wav",
        "text": "也活不下去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/234.wav",
        "text": "這個情況難道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/235.wav",
        "text": "真的是您樂見的嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/236.wav",
        "text": "\n還有更多在您的法條裡面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/237.wav",
        "text": "用字遣詞都非常強硬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/238.wav",
        "text": "甚至還提到應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/239.wav",
        "text": "\n你說應要求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/240.wav",
        "text": "基本上也剝奪了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/241.wav",
        "text": "學校自身選擇退場的權利"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/242.wav",
        "text": "跟相關的選擇權"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/243.wav",
        "text": "一旦有機會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/244.wav",
        "text": "他們就是想要退場了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/245.wav",
        "text": "那麼您在這裡"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/246.wav",
        "text": "應這個字"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/247.wav",
        "text": "到底是要兼顧誰的權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/248.wav",
        "text": "在您的法案說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/249.wav",
        "text": "我們完全看不出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/250.wav",
        "text": "還要把時間給其他委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/251.wav",
        "text": "我就先發言到這邊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/252.wav",
        "text": "跟國民黨團"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/253.wav",
        "text": "剛剛春城委員沒有聽到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/254.wav",
        "text": "我對這個法案的指控"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/255.wav",
        "text": "我必須嚴正地說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/256.wav",
        "text": "私校會殭屍化活不了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/257.wav",
        "text": "事因為你們支持這個版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/258.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們有簽名"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/259.wav",
        "text": "啊你們支持逕付二讀啊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/260.wav",
        "text": "所以我要嚴正地指控"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/261.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/262.wav",
        "text": "就是你們完全沒有辦法理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/263.wav",
        "text": "私校目前所面臨的困境"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/264.wav",
        "text": "所以我要再次提"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/265.wav",
        "text": "出這個版本必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/266.wav",
        "text": "回到專業討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/267.wav",
        "text": "不管是公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/268.wav",
        "text": "座談會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/269.wav",
        "text": "或者是回到委員會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/270.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/271.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/272.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/273.wav",
        "text": "我想這項提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/274.wav",
        "text": "從程序到內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/275.wav",
        "text": "沒有絲毫值得支持的理由"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/276.wav",
        "text": "而且委員會也沒有審查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/277.wav",
        "text": "這個版本的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/278.wav",
        "text": "我覺得如果不是具備"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/279.wav",
        "text": "極高的公益性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/280.wav",
        "text": "憑什麼說逕付二讀"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/281.wav",
        "text": "就逕付二讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/282.wav",
        "text": "而且"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/283.wav",
        "text": "我也要拜託林倩綺委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/284.wav",
        "text": "替國民黨多想想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/285.wav",
        "text": "已經引起很多民怨反彈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/286.wav",
        "text": "引起更大的反彈聲浪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/287.wav",
        "text": "我想也是藍白聯手的結果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/288.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨也有7位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/289.wav",
        "text": "委員投票支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/290.wav",
        "text": "第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/291.wav",
        "text": "無中生有變出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/292.wav",
        "text": "所以我真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/293.wav",
        "text": "嚴重懷疑不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/294.wav",
        "text": "是為了什麼樣的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/295.wav",
        "text": "我想這一項也要請提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/296.wav",
        "text": "就本席的了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/297.wav",
        "text": "這樣的提案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/298.wav",
        "text": "連私立科大協進會的理事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/299.wav",
        "text": "葛自祥都反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/300.wav",
        "text": "他說允許有意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/301.wav",
        "text": "接手辦學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/302.wav",
        "text": "可直接取得學校經營權"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/303.wav",
        "text": "無異是侵害原私校經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/304.wav",
        "text": "設法轉型的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/305.wav",
        "text": "形同對私校再砍一刀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/306.wav",
        "text": "忽視私校轉型的自主性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/307.wav",
        "text": "他覺得十分不合理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/308.wav",
        "text": "葛自祥理事長也懷疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/309.wav",
        "text": "這樣的提案內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/310.wav",
        "text": "會讓有意投入資金的金主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/311.wav",
        "text": "無須跟原校談判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/312.wav",
        "text": "有機會以更小的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/313.wav",
        "text": "取得學校的經營權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/314.wav",
        "text": "無異培養更多的私校禿鷹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/315.wav",
        "text": "\n再來我們看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/316.wav",
        "text": "學生的權益好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/317.wav",
        "text": "要有一年以上公開徵求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/318.wav",
        "text": "接續辦學者的期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/319.wav",
        "text": "而且必要時還得以延長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/320.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/321.wav",
        "text": "只會導致停辦的日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/322.wav",
        "text": "遲遲無法確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/323.wav",
        "text": "連帶會讓學生也不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/324.wav",
        "text": "是否要轉到其他學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/325.wav",
        "text": "讓學校繼續空轉下去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/326.wav",
        "text": "也會嚴重影響教職員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/327.wav",
        "text": "跟學生的權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/328.wav",
        "text": "另外我們也應該考量到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/329.wav",
        "text": "債務缺口擴大的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/330.wav",
        "text": "如果在學校停辦前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/331.wav",
        "text": "要公開徵求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/332.wav",
        "text": "接續辦學者這樣的期間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/333.wav",
        "text": "一年以上教師的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/334.wav",
        "text": "跟學校的維"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/335.wav",
        "text": "維運費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/336.wav",
        "text": "那錢由誰來出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/337.wav",
        "text": "出當然是政府要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/338.wav",
        "text": "透過退場基金墊付"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/339.wav",
        "text": "私校根本沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/340.wav",
        "text": "任何資金可以用了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/341.wav",
        "text": "所以我最後還是要呼籲倩綺"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/342.wav",
        "text": "倩綺委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/343.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾黨支持的委員們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/344.wav",
        "text": "這個不知道為了什麼狗屁目的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/345.wav",
        "text": "我覺得會嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/346.wav",
        "text": "充滿不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/347.wav",
        "text": "會很嚴重地侵害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/348.wav",
        "text": "師生的權益以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/349.wav",
        "text": "吳春城委員有沒有意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/350.wav",
        "text": "還是我們先聽聽教育部的說法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/351.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/352.wav",
        "text": "我想關於教育部就這項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/353.wav",
        "text": "修正草案的意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/354.wav",
        "text": "來看過去也都有案例就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/355.wav",
        "text": "確實要找人接手的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/356.wav",
        "text": "學校都有足夠時間可以接手"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/357.wav",
        "text": "比如說高苑科技大學"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/358.wav",
        "text": "就由台鋼捐給它2.8億後接手"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/359.wav",
        "text": "設計的時間是足夠的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/360.wav",
        "text": "現在的退場條例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/361.wav",
        "text": "接下來從停招到停辦有一年的時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/362.wav",
        "text": "然後兩個月申請解散"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/363.wav",
        "text": "再加上一年完成解散清算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/364.wav",
        "text": "一個學校從專輔到退場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/365.wav",
        "text": "其實要花大概四年兩個月的時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/366.wav",
        "text": "如果照修正草案第2項提到的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/367.wav",
        "text": "在改制合併停辦改辦清算完成前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/368.wav",
        "text": "每一個階段都要再定一年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/369.wav",
        "text": "公開徵求期間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/370.wav",
        "text": "更長甚至可能到七年以上的時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/371.wav",
        "text": "這裡面有很多費用就像剛才"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/372.wav",
        "text": "委員提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/373.wav",
        "text": "都要由退場基金支付"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/374.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家報告"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/375.wav",
        "text": "一下我在開退場基金管理委員會的時候"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/376.wav",
        "text": "光是電梯費用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/377.wav",
        "text": "每年就要編好幾百萬甚至上千萬"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/378.wav",
        "text": "他們就講啊電梯只要一年沒有用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/379.wav",
        "text": "那部電梯就廢掉了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/380.wav",
        "text": "所以我們每一年都要編那筆錢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/381.wav",
        "text": "否則如果電梯廢掉"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/382.wav",
        "text": "會增加很多不確定性因素"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/383.wav",
        "text": "的就是我們現在看到很多學校"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/384.wav",
        "text": "讓人家接手是一種方式沒有錯"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/385.wav",
        "text": "但是其實對學校來講"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/386.wav",
        "text": "改制也是另外一種"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/387.wav",
        "text": "生路非常好的機會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/388.wav",
        "text": "可是如果在改制之前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/389.wav",
        "text": "也需要再一年的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/390.wav",
        "text": "後與它合併的學校"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/391.wav",
        "text": "而且我們最擔心的還是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/392.wav",
        "text": "得延長之對我們來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/393.wav",
        "text": "也有很多不確定性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/394.wav",
        "text": "針對這項修正案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/395.wav",
        "text": "我們有以上這些意見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/396.wav",
        "text": "還有些更細節的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/397.wav",
        "text": "跟大家做一些更細節的說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/398.wav",
        "text": "還有各位委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/399.wav",
        "text": "退場條例的流程"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/400.wav",
        "text": "各位委員桌上也都有一份"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/401.wav",
        "text": "其實它定得非常明確"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/402.wav",
        "text": "輔之前在學校方面其實還有預警階段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/403.wav",
        "text": "有專輔階段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/404.wav",
        "text": "在這個過程當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/405.wav",
        "text": "其實學校都是在有機會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/406.wav",
        "text": "願意來協助學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/407.wav",
        "text": "下也都可以做一些合作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/408.wav",
        "text": "可是假如經過這麼多年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/409.wav",
        "text": "還是沒有得到外面的資源挹注"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/410.wav",
        "text": "其實學校的財務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/411.wav",
        "text": "是真的沒有辦法支撐"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/412.wav",
        "text": "其實是在每一個環節"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/413.wav",
        "text": "都很清楚地訂出時間點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/414.wav",
        "text": "可以了解我們在哪個階段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/415.wav",
        "text": "讓師生可以比較安心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/416.wav",
        "text": "修正版本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/417.wav",
        "text": "在每一個點都會增加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/418.wav",
        "text": "那不確定性真的會非常高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/419.wav",
        "text": "已經進入要停辦階段的學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/420.wav",
        "text": "其校產大部分也是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/421.wav",
        "text": "由中央各部會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/422.wav",
        "text": "我們就已經在做這樣的媒合"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/423.wav",
        "text": "這種媒合則是沒有辦法完成的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/424.wav",
        "text": "那會影響整個校地"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/425.wav",
        "text": "就會更嚴重"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/426.wav",
        "text": "再好好地討論一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/427.wav",
        "text": "因為以我們目前看到的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/428.wav",
        "text": "以上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/429.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/430.wav",
        "text": "\n還有沒有其他部門"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/431.wav",
        "text": "要針對剛剛委員所發表的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/432.wav",
        "text": "意見提出額外說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/433.wav",
        "text": "\n還有沒有委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/434.wav",
        "text": "發言剛剛每個委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/435.wav",
        "text": "都表達他們自己的看法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/436.wav",
        "text": "也有特別提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/437.wav",
        "text": "一些可能窒礙難行的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/438.wav",
        "text": "你要不要針對你的提案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/439.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/440.wav",
        "text": "召委謝謝主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/441.wav",
        "text": "學校主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/442.wav",
        "text": "或學校法人主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/443.wav",
        "text": "於同意改制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/444.wav",
        "text": "合併"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/445.wav",
        "text": "停辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/446.wav",
        "text": "改辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/447.wav",
        "text": "清算完成前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/448.wav",
        "text": "應定一年以上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/449.wav",
        "text": "之公開徵求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/450.wav",
        "text": "接續辦學期間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/451.wav",
        "text": "徵求有意願之接辦者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/452.wav",
        "text": "有意願之接辦者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/453.wav",
        "text": "亦得向學校主管機關"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/454.wav",
        "text": "或學校法人主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/455.wav",
        "text": "提出接辦之申請"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/456.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分是資訊公開化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/457.wav",
        "text": "也就是第3款"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/458.wav",
        "text": "前項公開徵求接續辦學期間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/459.wav",
        "text": "必要時得延長之"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/460.wav",
        "text": "一年是大家的整理期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/461.wav",
        "text": "是主管機關的權限"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/462.wav",
        "text": "或相關法人主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/463.wav",
        "text": "所以如果主管機關積極作為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/464.wav",
        "text": "非常明確的時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/465.wav",
        "text": "謝謝教文委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/466.wav",
        "text": "各位委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/467.wav",
        "text": "我對大家都非常敬重"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/468.wav",
        "text": "我可以繼續講嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/469.wav",
        "text": "因為許多委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/470.wav",
        "text": "\n針對剛剛幾位委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/471.wav",
        "text": "提到一些重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/472.wav",
        "text": "我做了整理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/473.wav",
        "text": "然後向大家作個回應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/474.wav",
        "text": "有問題的學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/475.wav",
        "text": "在財務方面都遇到相"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/476.wav",
        "text": "當的困難"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/477.wav",
        "text": "如果財務方面遇到相當的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/478.wav",
        "text": "其實接手要更為小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/479.wav",
        "text": "很重要的一點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/480.wav",
        "text": "許多學校老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/481.wav",
        "text": "跟學生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/482.wav",
        "text": "在接手過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/483.wav",
        "text": "應該是最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/484.wav",
        "text": "的最主要要考量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/485.wav",
        "text": "就財務部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/486.wav",
        "text": "要先處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/487.wav",
        "text": "學校的學生跟老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/488.wav",
        "text": "當然還有很多細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/489.wav",
        "text": "這部分的資訊公開化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/490.wav",
        "text": "可以透過已有的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/491.wav",
        "text": "針對學校老師的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/492.wav",
        "text": "還有學生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/493.wav",
        "text": "其實條文裡最重要的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/494.wav",
        "text": "公開徵求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/495.wav",
        "text": "公開徵求在時間上會延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/496.wav",
        "text": "但是我不認為公開徵求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/497.wav",
        "text": "在時間上就會延宕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/498.wav",
        "text": "最主要的是資訊公開化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/499.wav",
        "text": "讓所有有興趣者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/500.wav",
        "text": "參與徵求的相關計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/501.wav",
        "text": "在主管單位的監督下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/502.wav",
        "text": "得以讓大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/503.wav",
        "text": "就不會產生私相授受的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/504.wav",
        "text": "不要產生私相授受的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/505.wav",
        "text": "各位我現在其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/506.wav",
        "text": "也碰到有人跟我投訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/507.wav",
        "text": "是裡面的相關人等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/508.wav",
        "text": "教育部也聽一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/509.wav",
        "text": "雖然可能不是今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/510.wav",
        "text": "你們最主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/511.wav",
        "text": "有相關公益董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/512.wav",
        "text": "幫你們把東西都處理完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/513.wav",
        "text": "也清算完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/514.wav",
        "text": "結果現在不知道接下來怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/515.wav",
        "text": "也清算了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/516.wav",
        "text": "但是接下來主管機關不接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/517.wav",
        "text": "啊但他們也不知道怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/518.wav",
        "text": "啊他們已經做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/519.wav",
        "text": "規定上該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/520.wav",
        "text": "可是這一段沒有人處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/521.wav",
        "text": "了解這是到今天已經施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/522.wav",
        "text": "兩年的這項條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/523.wav",
        "text": "現在所碰到的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/524.wav",
        "text": "公開徵求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/525.wav",
        "text": "有興趣的單位接手的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/526.wav",
        "text": "你們也不會碰到這種困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/527.wav",
        "text": "啊據我所知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/528.wav",
        "text": "把錢給你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/529.wav",
        "text": "很可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/530.wav",
        "text": "是公益就歸公益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/531.wav",
        "text": "耶所以你希望歸財團嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/532.wav",
        "text": "收回國有這點又更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/533.wav",
        "text": "等一下我還沒講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/534.wav",
        "text": "陳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/535.wav",
        "text": "很感謝你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/536.wav",
        "text": "您剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/537.wav",
        "text": "啦您說學校都會變得殭屍化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/538.wav",
        "text": "但我們必須了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/539.wav",
        "text": "它雖然在很危急的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/540.wav",
        "text": "但還沒有死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/541.wav",
        "text": "耶它還想求生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/542.wav",
        "text": "它還沒有死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/543.wav",
        "text": "也有可能走掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/544.wav",
        "text": "但如果它的主動意願不想死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/545.wav",
        "text": "我們當然要努力地救它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/546.wav",
        "text": "假如它真的必須走掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/547.wav",
        "text": "它就會走掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/548.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們不能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/549.wav",
        "text": "它想繼續活下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/550.wav",
        "text": "也有人願意救它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/551.wav",
        "text": "我們不能這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/552.wav",
        "text": "啊而且我們是公家部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/553.wav",
        "text": "現在是你們跟縣市政府在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/554.wav",
        "text": "可是一個很大的問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/555.wav",
        "text": "這些私有財產土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/556.wav",
        "text": "跟私人辦學的過往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/557.wav",
        "text": "喔好像不太合理吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/558.wav",
        "text": "剛才幾位委員所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/559.wav",
        "text": "說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/560.wav",
        "text": "吳春城委員發言之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/561.wav",
        "text": "我先聚焦一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/562.wav",
        "text": "剛剛大家是有一些想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/563.wav",
        "text": "根據教育部的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/564.wav",
        "text": "已經有兩年兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/565.wav",
        "text": "在程序上他們也認為是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/566.wav",
        "text": "四年兩個月時間足夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/567.wav",
        "text": "在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/568.wav",
        "text": "是認為這個時間還不足以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/569.wav",
        "text": "續命這是你的看法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/570.wav",
        "text": "四年兩個月還不夠嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/571.wav",
        "text": "委員會應該是最沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/572.wav",
        "text": "政黨意識的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/573.wav",
        "text": "也沒有什麼與藍綠又合手的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/574.wav",
        "text": "我要問教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/575.wav",
        "text": "大家覺得目前已經實施的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/576.wav",
        "text": "的退場條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/577.wav",
        "text": "有沒有遇到問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/578.wav",
        "text": "有沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/579.wav",
        "text": "等一下你們再回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/580.wav",
        "text": "當然大家都覺得有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/581.wav",
        "text": "當然大家都覺得有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/582.wav",
        "text": "啦那問題如何改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/583.wav",
        "text": "以目前的處理方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/584.wav",
        "text": "雖然前面有兩年時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/585.wav",
        "text": "現在這個辦法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/586.wav",
        "text": "幾乎只有一所學校能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/587.wav",
        "text": "─只有一所學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/588.wav",
        "text": "其他的全部停辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/589.wav",
        "text": "教師還有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/590.wav",
        "text": "啦等一下請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/591.wav",
        "text": "說明\n再來我要問教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/592.wav",
        "text": "如果照這個辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/593.wav",
        "text": "預估下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/594.wav",
        "text": "還有幾所學校要面臨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/595.wav",
        "text": "在這個辦法底下要關門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/596.wav",
        "text": "關閉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/597.wav",
        "text": "聽說有四十所學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/598.wav",
        "text": "等待退場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/599.wav",
        "text": "目前看起來就是只有兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/600.wav",
        "text": "其實兩年時間的確不短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/601.wav",
        "text": "既然兩年時間不短還不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/602.wav",
        "text": "的就是學校的財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/603.wav",
        "text": "學校的財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/604.wav",
        "text": "兩年時間是不短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/605.wav",
        "text": "我並不是說這兩年時間還不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/606.wav",
        "text": "學校老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/607.wav",
        "text": "學生的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/608.wav",
        "text": "最後這兩年的權利給財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/609.wav",
        "text": "但是財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/610.wav",
        "text": "不積極地處理問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/611.wav",
        "text": "難道就要馬上進入清算嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/612.wav",
        "text": "是不是該把權利移轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/613.wav",
        "text": "為主管機關的決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/614.wav",
        "text": "再給主管機關一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/615.wav",
        "text": "至於這段時間到底要多長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/616.wav",
        "text": "比較適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/617.wav",
        "text": "我覺得當然也要由教育部來表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/618.wav",
        "text": "我覺得在這之間可以有彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/619.wav",
        "text": "\n我也請教育部回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/620.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是退場條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/621.wav",
        "text": "實施這段期間以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/622.wav",
        "text": "有沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/623.wav",
        "text": "能不能解決現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/624.wav",
        "text": "你們還有沒有別的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/625.wav",
        "text": "你前面講到有兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/626.wav",
        "text": "而現實的結果顯然是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/627.wav",
        "text": "就是40所學校等著排隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/628.wav",
        "text": "只要被教育部盯上了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/629.wav",
        "text": "大概就會限制很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/630.wav",
        "text": "也沒有給它機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/631.wav",
        "text": "幾乎就是判死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/632.wav",
        "text": "啦以目前的方法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/633.wav",
        "text": "所以站在台灣民眾黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/634.wav",
        "text": "只要能夠解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/635.wav",
        "text": "教育部能夠提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/636.wav",
        "text": "我們是願意接受的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/637.wav",
        "text": "等一下由教育部一併加以回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/638.wav",
        "text": "接下來是范雲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/639.wav",
        "text": "剛剛民眾黨吳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/640.wav",
        "text": "一直說沒有藍白聯手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/641.wav",
        "text": "那麼請吳委員看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/642.wav",
        "text": "我們辦公室找出來的投票紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/643.wav",
        "text": "這裡面有您的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/644.wav",
        "text": "七位民眾黨委員都一起投"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/645.wav",
        "text": "所以跳過審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/646.wav",
        "text": "跳過教育及文化委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/647.wav",
        "text": "不記得那天是投什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/648.wav",
        "text": "就是因為你們投了這個票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/649.wav",
        "text": "剛剛好幾位委員講的到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/650.wav",
        "text": "有什麼公益性跟急迫性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/651.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不在專業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/652.wav",
        "text": "教育及文化委員會裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/653.wav",
        "text": "依照程序逐條審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/654.wav",
        "text": "而且之前還應該要有大體討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/655.wav",
        "text": "您今天想要問的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/656.wav",
        "text": "在教育及文化委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/657.wav",
        "text": "不是可以讓教育部有更充分的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/658.wav",
        "text": "報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/659.wav",
        "text": "然後每個委員也都能夠詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/660.wav",
        "text": "而且也有其他相關條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/661.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠一起併案討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/662.wav",
        "text": "剛剛兩位委員還是沒有回答"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/663.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要跳過教育及文化委員會的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/664.wav",
        "text": "專業審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/665.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛講沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/666.wav",
        "text": "可能您忘記了我把投票紀錄帶過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/667.wav",
        "text": "您要提案是不是可以先做研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/668.wav",
        "text": "根據我跟教育部要的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/669.wav",
        "text": "如果您這項法案通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/670.wav",
        "text": "可能起死回生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/671.wav",
        "text": "有8個學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/672.wav",
        "text": "包括高美醫護和春技術中州科大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/673.wav",
        "text": "提醒大家中州科大的負責人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/674.wav",
        "text": "當奴隸的部分已經被判刑確定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/675.wav",
        "text": "大同技術學院東方設計大學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/676.wav",
        "text": "環球科技大學明道大學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/677.wav",
        "text": "照剛剛林委員講起來好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/678.wav",
        "text": "是要針對某些大學個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/679.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛講有學校沒有承接機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/680.wav",
        "text": "但在我向教育部要的資料裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/681.wav",
        "text": "只有兩所學校不知道是哪所學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/682.wav",
        "text": "一個是環球科大一個是明道大學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/683.wav",
        "text": "針對環球科大依照教育部的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/684.wav",
        "text": "目前雲林縣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/685.wav",
        "text": "與經濟部都表達願意承接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/686.wav",
        "text": "而他們必須提交規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/687.wav",
        "text": "構想書提報下一次行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/688.wav",
        "text": "退場校地研商會議確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/689.wav",
        "text": "衛福部提交規劃構想書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/690.wav",
        "text": "將提報下一次行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/691.wav",
        "text": "退場校地研商會議確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/692.wav",
        "text": "不知道是環球科大"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/693.wav",
        "text": "還是明道大學讓你覺得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/694.wav",
        "text": "它們需要用這個法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/695.wav",
        "text": "幫它們解決困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/696.wav",
        "text": "\n我剛剛要講的是原本在專輔"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/697.wav",
        "text": "之後以現在的法條"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/698.wav",
        "text": "就有兩年輔導諮詢期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/699.wav",
        "text": "本來就可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/700.wav",
        "text": "討論我記得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/701.wav",
        "text": "林宜瑾委員跟我當時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/702.wav",
        "text": "還接到很多意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/703.wav",
        "text": "所以當時已經是妥協的結果了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/704.wav",
        "text": "更不用講沒有進入專輔的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/705.wav",
        "text": "財務沒有那麼大問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/706.wav",
        "text": "教育部的監管能力是更弱的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/707.wav",
        "text": "更早的逃生門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/708.wav",
        "text": "所以對於那些有意願競逐的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/709.wav",
        "text": "何況專輔還有兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/710.wav",
        "text": "我們的委員所說殭屍化這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/711.wav",
        "text": "你到底是站在誰的立場上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/712.wav",
        "text": "是環球科大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/713.wav",
        "text": "還是明道大學"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/714.wav",
        "text": "覺得這個法修過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/715.wav",
        "text": "歸於國有謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/716.wav",
        "text": "接下來是陳培瑜委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/717.wav",
        "text": "再過來是林宜瑾委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/718.wav",
        "text": "之前范雲委員跟林宜瑾委員他們所修的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/719.wav",
        "text": "私校退場條例之簡易架構版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/720.wav",
        "text": "我想向倩綺委員跟春城委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/721.wav",
        "text": "這件事情我就想請你們再度回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/722.wav",
        "text": "到底目前時間如何不夠的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/723.wav",
        "text": "而且春城委員您剛剛也說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/724.wav",
        "text": "了您認為教育部是不是要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/725.wav",
        "text": "有滾動檢討機制林倩綺委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/726.wav",
        "text": "您之前向陳建仁院長質詢的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/727.wav",
        "text": "他也提到確實有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/728.wav",
        "text": "滾動檢討但是確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/729.wav",
        "text": "不能做的事情是私相授受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/730.wav",
        "text": "而我們現在真的非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/731.wav",
        "text": "擔心在你們的版本裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/732.wav",
        "text": "會不會有私相授受的問題為什麼我這麼說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/733.wav",
        "text": "在您的版本裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/734.wav",
        "text": "不斷不斷不斷延長這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/735.wav",
        "text": "照顧的到底是誰的權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/736.wav",
        "text": "假設我是家長我的小孩"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/737.wav",
        "text": "就讀剛剛范雲委員說的兩所學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/738.wav",
        "text": "或是八所學校其中一所學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/739.wav",
        "text": "你們可能給了我錯誤的期待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/740.wav",
        "text": "讓我以為這個學校會一直延長下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/741.wav",
        "text": "但是整個辦學狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/742.wav",
        "text": "呢我來跟您報告什麼時候會被列入"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/743.wav",
        "text": "預警學校就是我等一下要念的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/744.wav",
        "text": "會讓家長跟孩子非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/745.wav",
        "text": "這件事情呢學校財務惡化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/746.wav",
        "text": "師資質量不符法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/747.wav",
        "text": "學生權益檢核不通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/748.wav",
        "text": "合格教師未達百分之五十"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/749.wav",
        "text": "有這一切狀況才會列入預警學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/750.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛一再指控相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/751.wav",
        "text": "資訊是沒有公開的那我想要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/752.wav",
        "text": "問你到底是哪一段資訊沒有公開"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/753.wav",
        "text": "走到專輔學校而專輔學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/754.wav",
        "text": "有哪些條件呢一財務惡化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/755.wav",
        "text": "嚴重影響營運二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/756.wav",
        "text": "師資的質量不符法規改善未果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/757.wav",
        "text": "三學生權益檢核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/758.wav",
        "text": "不通過改善未果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/759.wav",
        "text": "四合格教師未達百分之五十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/760.wav",
        "text": "改善未果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/761.wav",
        "text": "接下來是積欠教師薪資遭罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/762.wav",
        "text": "三年內列為預警學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/763.wav",
        "text": "兩次違反私校法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/764.wav",
        "text": "嚴重影響師生權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/765.wav",
        "text": "才會列入專輔學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/766.wav",
        "text": "也就是才會往下走兩年再往下這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/767.wav",
        "text": "樣的流程請問如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/768.wav",
        "text": "您是家長看到你的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/769.wav",
        "text": "孩子在這樣的地方讀書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/770.wav",
        "text": "你真的會認為一再一再延長相關期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/771.wav",
        "text": "對學生來說能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/772.wav",
        "text": "剛剛用了一個非常惡劣的字眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/773.wav",
        "text": "必須用惡劣你用國家暴力來形容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/774.wav",
        "text": "土地回歸主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/775.wav",
        "text": "或教育部作為公共使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/776.wav",
        "text": "這件事情請您不要忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/777.wav",
        "text": "所有私立學校在辦學期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/778.wav",
        "text": "是從國家的資源撥補到私立學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/779.wav",
        "text": "私立學校從來都不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/780.wav",
        "text": "一毛不拿沒有拿國家的錢所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/781.wav",
        "text": "從來不是國家暴力國家雖然"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/782.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵私人興學但是國家也兼顧了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/783.wav",
        "text": "公立學校跟私立學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/784.wav",
        "text": "學生的就學權益還有老師相關權益的保障"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/785.wav",
        "text": "現行法令當中都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/786.wav",
        "text": "我們確實也必須承認所有私校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/787.wav",
        "text": "退場的樣態都非常不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/788.wav",
        "text": "可能來自董事會的經營來自師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/789.wav",
        "text": "師資問題甚至來自於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/790.wav",
        "text": "那個地區的社區文化社區背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/791.wav",
        "text": "的問題都非常不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/792.wav",
        "text": "所以如果你們真的認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/793.wav",
        "text": "有必要檢討那是不是該回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/794.wav",
        "text": "委員會好好討論甚至整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/795.wav",
        "text": "私校退場條例裡面應該也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/796.wav",
        "text": "只有這條需要討論我不知道在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/797.wav",
        "text": "你們的版本裡面為什麼只看到這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/798.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們認為會造成"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/799.wav",
        "text": "殭屍化甚至造成禿鷹化"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/800.wav",
        "text": "好\n請林宜瑾委員"
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        "text": "就是針對教育"
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        "text": "私校在經營的時候其實國家"
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        "text": "是挹注非常非常多的經費"
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        "text": "在私校上而且"
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        "text": "私人興學的過程中是不需要"
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        "text": "繳稅的所以我想"
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        "text": "在一個私人辦學的過程"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/808.wav",
        "text": "中其實它接受到那麼多"
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        "text": "來自國家的資源所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/810.wav",
        "text": "到它沒有辦法經營的時候"
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        "text": "它必須要退場的時候"
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        "text": "收歸國有我覺得"
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        "text": "這個想必然是非常理所當然"
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        "text": "在討論這個法案的過程中其實也"
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        "text": "我想倩綺委員可能不是那麼清楚"
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        "text": "退場條例的整個流程"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/817.wav",
        "text": "剛剛培瑜委員有講"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/818.wav",
        "text": "先到預警預警是不公開的"
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        "text": "就是也要保護這個學校"
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        "text": "讓學校可以"
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        "text": "做改善"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/822.wav",
        "text": "改善就會解除預警"
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        "text": "正常營運可是你"
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        "text": "一旦預警期間"
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        "text": "沒有改善之後就會進入"
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        "text": "專輔預警好像在"
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        "text": "住院一樣它如果病癒"
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        "text": "就可以出院到了專輔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/829.wav",
        "text": "就好像進了加護病房"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/830.wav",
        "text": "就相對嚴重了"
    },
    {
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        "text": "通常進入到加護病房"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/832.wav",
        "text": "再好也不是沒有機會"
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        "text": "它可以再往上回"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/834.wav",
        "text": "可是如果它專輔兩年內"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/835.wav",
        "text": "準備停辦停招"
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        "text": "準備退場了所以這"
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        "text": "時間其實是非常足夠"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/838.wav",
        "text": "的從預警到專輔"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/839.wav",
        "text": "會讓有心要來接手"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/840.wav",
        "text": "辦學的人沒有足"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/841.wav",
        "text": "訂這個時間而且還是所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/842.wav",
        "text": "一年以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/843.wav",
        "text": "好像是無限輪迴"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/844.wav",
        "text": "是嚴重損害學生和教職員"
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        "text": "的權益因為學校已經經營"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/846.wav",
        "text": "不下去根本就沒錢經營下去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/847.wav",
        "text": "那就會像培瑜委員說的那些孩子"
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        "text": "怎麼辦我的孩子唸這個學校"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/849.wav",
        "text": "我怎麼辦那時候老師"
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        "text": "也無心留了因為可能學校"
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        "text": "也付不出老師的薪水了"
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        "text": "孩子在裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/853.wav",
        "text": "是因為您有受到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/854.wav",
        "text": "某些財團的請託"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/855.wav",
        "text": "然後您覺得"
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        "text": "可以替它這樣說話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/857.wav",
        "text": "可是我覺得您還是要"
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        "text": "想到公益性的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/859.wav",
        "text": "這個毫無公益性可言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/860.wav",
        "text": "而且會害一個本來要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/861.wav",
        "text": "好好退場的學校讓你這樣"
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        "text": "僵屍化就是這個意思"
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        "text": "它本來就要好好地過世了結果你"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/864.wav",
        "text": "不讓它過世這樣折騰"
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        "text": "它所以我覺得還請你多多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/866.wav",
        "text": "就請教育部來針對剛剛"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/867.wav",
        "text": "委員的意見做一個統一的回復"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/868.wav",
        "text": "一個錯誤觀念"
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        "text": "其實專輔並不是判這間學校死刑"
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        "text": "這兩年的輔導諮詢服務裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/871.wav",
        "text": "像我們過去的case除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/872.wav",
        "text": "4家進到專輔之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/873.wav",
        "text": "經過了諮詢輔導它的"
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        "text": "就開始改善了就解除了專輔"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/875.wav",
        "text": "所以其實並不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/876.wav",
        "text": "列入專輔就是宣判死刑"
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    {
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        "text": "這是第一點要跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/878.wav",
        "text": "退場條例的關係事實上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/879.wav",
        "text": "新生兒40萬人到現在"
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    {
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        "text": "13萬8,000人三分之一的人對"
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        "text": "確實就是讓這些人"
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        "text": "就算兩年找不到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/883.wav",
        "text": "想要接手的再給它一年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/884.wav",
        "text": "也希望在這個地方澄清一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/885.wav",
        "text": "其實不是退場條例在逼這些學校"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/886.wav",
        "text": "退場而是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/887.wav",
        "text": "少子化的趨勢下本來它就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/888.wav",
        "text": "很難找到人接手這是它"
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        "text": "比較辛苦的地方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/890.wav",
        "text": "也請司長再補充一下"
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        "text": "在111年5月11號"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/892.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在退場條例已經"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/893.wav",
        "text": "明定非常多的時間點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/894.wav",
        "text": "所以我們目前就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/895.wav",
        "text": "按照這樣的時間點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/896.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣去安置學生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/897.wav",
        "text": "還有老師的優離優退"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/898.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣去計算等等"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/899.wav",
        "text": "在我們的條例都有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/900.wav",
        "text": "做很明確的規範這個也謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/901.wav",
        "text": "\n當然在這樣的過程中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/902.wav",
        "text": "老師是比較"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/903.wav",
        "text": "難接受這個我們不諱言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/904.wav",
        "text": "專輔我們也都看到很多學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/905.wav",
        "text": "老師欠薪已經欠了一年多了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/906.wav",
        "text": "然後老師幾乎每個禮拜到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/907.wav",
        "text": "部裡面到立法院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/908.wav",
        "text": "要求董事會要出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/909.wav",
        "text": "董事會就是無力來做"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/910.wav",
        "text": "時間點很明確"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/911.wav",
        "text": "停招我們公益董事進去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/912.wav",
        "text": "退場基金進去老師的薪水"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/913.wav",
        "text": "可以開始支領"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/914.wav",
        "text": "後面的優離優退我們基金也先"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/915.wav",
        "text": "墊支讓老師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/916.wav",
        "text": "至少是有經濟"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/917.wav",
        "text": "我們也透過我們的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/918.wav",
        "text": "研習讓他有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/919.wav",
        "text": "第二春這樣的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/920.wav",
        "text": "一些轉銜的就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/921.wav",
        "text": "輔導\n當然不諱言委員可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/922.wav",
        "text": "都很低我也要跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/923.wav",
        "text": "我們的老師因為都在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/924.wav",
        "text": "大學任教"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/925.wav",
        "text": "他們也期待第二個職業"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/926.wav",
        "text": "能幫他們安排到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/927.wav",
        "text": "其他學校任教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/928.wav",
        "text": "但是回到少子化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/929.wav",
        "text": "的問題每個學校教資的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/930.wav",
        "text": "缺額就是真的非常"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/931.wav",
        "text": "地少所以在這一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/932.wav",
        "text": "的協助轉銜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/933.wav",
        "text": "真的是比較難假如"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/934.wav",
        "text": "老師有意願到企業其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/935.wav",
        "text": "我們都有非常多的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/936.wav",
        "text": "給老師做選擇"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/937.wav",
        "text": "後續這塊當然我們還要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/938.wav",
        "text": "再加把勁這個我們會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/939.wav",
        "text": "再努力地來協助老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/940.wav",
        "text": "一些就職的轉銜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/941.wav",
        "text": "銜以上是補充"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/942.wav",
        "text": "主席還是要做一個裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/943.wav",
        "text": "提出逕付二讀本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/944.wav",
        "text": "符合議事規範這個我要先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/945.wav",
        "text": "特別來做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/946.wav",
        "text": "我們這次的協商絕對是一個公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/947.wav",
        "text": "給師生一個更好的權益這是每個人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/948.wav",
        "text": "就像醫生救人大家都希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/949.wav",
        "text": "能夠救只是有沒有辦法救得起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/950.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/951.wav",
        "text": "今天討論的一個很大的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/952.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛每個委員還有包括教育部也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/953.wav",
        "text": "24條並沒有太大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/954.wav",
        "text": "主席所做的裁決就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/955.wav",
        "text": "我們擇期再來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/956.wav",
        "text": "擇期我們再來做一個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/957.wav",
        "text": "好不好\n如果是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/958.wav",
        "text": "那我們今天的協商到此為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16030/959.wav",
        "text": "我們散會謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/0.wav",
        "text": "我們就繼續來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1.wav",
        "text": "我想官員及委員大家都很熟悉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2.wav",
        "text": "\n本會期第1次本會與司法及法制委員會聯席會議審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3.wav",
        "text": "及6月5日第1次黨團協商後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/4.wav",
        "text": "共計保留條文6條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/5.wav",
        "text": "第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/6.wav",
        "text": "第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/7.wav",
        "text": "第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/8.wav",
        "text": "第45條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/9.wav",
        "text": "及第55條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/10.wav",
        "text": "\n我們現在就開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/11.wav",
        "text": "上一次還沒有確認的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/12.wav",
        "text": "\n第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/13.wav",
        "text": "是不是請衛福部說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/14.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/15.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/16.wav",
        "text": "關於第2條我們建議參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/17.wav",
        "text": "衛生福利部所建議的修正條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/18.wav",
        "text": "在第1項第3款圖畫的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/19.wav",
        "text": "有委員建議要做一個定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/20.wav",
        "text": "因為這個定義已經放在修正條文的說明裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/21.wav",
        "text": "所以建議維持現在我們建議的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/22.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/23.wav",
        "text": "針對第2條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/24.wav",
        "text": "衛福部再做出建議修正條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/25.wav",
        "text": "文請問各位委員對於衛福部今天提出來的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/26.wav",
        "text": "有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/27.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/28.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/29.wav",
        "text": "有劃underline的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/30.wav",
        "text": "能夠也把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/31.wav",
        "text": "與性相關而客觀上足以引起刺激或滿足性慾而無"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/32.wav",
        "text": "藝術性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/33.wav",
        "text": "醫學性或教育性價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/34.wav",
        "text": "而令一般人感覺不堪呈現於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/35.wav",
        "text": "眾或不能忍受而排拒之圖畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/36.wav",
        "text": "這個目的是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/37.wav",
        "text": "子剛剛當然有一些溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/38.wav",
        "text": "放在本條文裡面就是比較明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/39.wav",
        "text": "放在說明的地方其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/40.wav",
        "text": "我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/41.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/42.wav",
        "text": "還有沒有其他委員有其他意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/43.wav",
        "text": "是不是衛福部再說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/44.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要放在說明謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/45.wav",
        "text": "因為兒少性剝削防制條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/46.wav",
        "text": "其實是刑法的特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/47.wav",
        "text": "在刑法第203條裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/48.wav",
        "text": "有針對民眾黨黨團提的這些文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/49.wav",
        "text": "也是揭櫫圖畫文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/50.wav",
        "text": "因此我們在跟ACG團體溝通的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/51.wav",
        "text": "他們也同意我們放在說明欄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/52.wav",
        "text": "同時放在說明欄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/53.wav",
        "text": "以上建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/54.wav",
        "text": "這樣子民眾黨是不是可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/55.wav",
        "text": "也有跟團體溝通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/56.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得明確性是比較不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/57.wav",
        "text": "就算法官法庭在判決的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/58.wav",
        "text": "我們不知道他們會不會注意到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/59.wav",
        "text": "──法務部及司法院說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/60.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的修法你們會不會注意到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/61.wav",
        "text": "通常隨著社會觀念的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/62.wav",
        "text": "會有不同的內涵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/63.wav",
        "text": "維持衛福部的版本留在說明欄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/64.wav",
        "text": "主管法規的彈性空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/65.wav",
        "text": "可以即時因應社會情勢的變遷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/66.wav",
        "text": "這樣會不會比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/67.wav",
        "text": "放在說明欄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/68.wav",
        "text": "未注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/69.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/70.wav",
        "text": "通常如果這樣有疑義的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/71.wav",
        "text": "你們也都會參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/72.wav",
        "text": "是都會參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/73.wav",
        "text": "不會只是看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/74.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/75.wav",
        "text": "檢察官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/76.wav",
        "text": "其實在5月份的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/77.wav",
        "text": "已經有發一個函釋了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/78.wav",
        "text": "就是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/79.wav",
        "text": "以發函的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/80.wav",
        "text": "包含我們法務部也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/81.wav",
        "text": "我們法務部收到函文的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/82.wav",
        "text": "整個函文到各個地檢署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/83.wav",
        "text": "都已經有拿到這個函釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/84.wav",
        "text": "\n說穿了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/85.wav",
        "text": "基本上是不拘束我們司法機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/86.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/87.wav",
        "text": "我們檢察官在辦案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/88.wav",
        "text": "參考這個意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/89.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/90.wav",
        "text": "雖然這個寫在立法理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/91.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在函釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/92.wav",
        "text": "釋下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/93.wav",
        "text": "大家都看得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/94.wav",
        "text": "瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/95.wav",
        "text": "\n司法院要補充說明嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/96.wav",
        "text": "就像剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/97.wav",
        "text": "張司長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/98.wav",
        "text": "兒少性剝削防制條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/99.wav",
        "text": "是屬於特別的刑罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/100.wav",
        "text": "所以一定必須要站在普通刑罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/101.wav",
        "text": "尤其是像這樣的數位網路時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/102.wav",
        "text": "其實快速地變遷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/103.wav",
        "text": "處理個案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/104.wav",
        "text": "不管是檢察官或者法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/105.wav",
        "text": "甚至第一線的司法警察人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/106.wav",
        "text": "都必須要基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/107.wav",
        "text": "大概就會透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/108.wav",
        "text": "目的性限縮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/109.wav",
        "text": "或目的性擴張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/110.wav",
        "text": "防制兒少被性剝削的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/111.wav",
        "text": "至於個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/112.wav",
        "text": "大概就要回到罰的本旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/113.wav",
        "text": "去做個案的判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/114.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/115.wav",
        "text": "衛福部的版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/116.wav",
        "text": "按照衛福部的建議修正條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/117.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/118.wav",
        "text": "第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/119.wav",
        "text": "在前次協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/120.wav",
        "text": "爭議點會是在第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/121.wav",
        "text": "第5款警政主管機關的職掌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/122.wav",
        "text": "因為這個職掌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/123.wav",
        "text": "會牽涉到後面的第51條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/124.wav",
        "text": "第51條如果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/125.wav",
        "text": "第2項第5款警政主管機關的權責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/126.wav",
        "text": "權責部分就可以確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/127.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以建議主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/128.wav",
        "text": "這一條暫時保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/129.wav",
        "text": "\n第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/130.wav",
        "text": "第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/131.wav",
        "text": "在前次的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/132.wav",
        "text": "時我們建議維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/133.wav",
        "text": "及范雲委員建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/134.wav",
        "text": "對於犯本條例之罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/135.wav",
        "text": "而違反個人資料保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/136.wav",
        "text": "法要加重其刑至二分之一這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/137.wav",
        "text": "因為當時考量到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/138.wav",
        "text": "司法院及法務部也建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/139.wav",
        "text": "在個資法已經有載明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/140.wav",
        "text": "這個地方再重複"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/141.wav",
        "text": "會有疊床架屋的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/142.wav",
        "text": "維持現行條文不予修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/143.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/144.wav",
        "text": "第38條維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/145.wav",
        "text": "如果今天個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/146.wav",
        "text": "本來范雲委員提的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/147.wav",
        "text": "要加重二分之一刑責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/148.wav",
        "text": "個資法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/149.wav",
        "text": "我們現在擔心個資法第41條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/150.wav",
        "text": "個資法是五年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/151.wav",
        "text": "我們擔心會不會發生被吃掉的狀況就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/152.wav",
        "text": "最後沒有一加一等於二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/153.wav",
        "text": "譬如依性剝削防制條例判一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/154.wav",
        "text": "一加一等於二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/155.wav",
        "text": "可是如果沒有的話變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/156.wav",
        "text": "這邊判一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/157.wav",
        "text": "所以為什麼要這邊講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/158.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以加重二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/159.wav",
        "text": "比方一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/160.wav",
        "text": "可能是一年半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/161.wav",
        "text": "所以先請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/162.wav",
        "text": "就單一地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/163.wav",
        "text": "創意私房幾乎都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/164.wav",
        "text": "跟著個資在賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/165.wav",
        "text": "多年後這些人還是不斷地被跟騷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/166.wav",
        "text": "對他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/167.wav",
        "text": "成年後的生活影響非常非常的大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/168.wav",
        "text": "我想如果各位有看到報導者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/169.wav",
        "text": "講到這些受害人狀況的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/170.wav",
        "text": "司法院可不可以給一個解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/171.wav",
        "text": "到底會是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/172.wav",
        "text": "否則現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/173.wav",
        "text": "在講說有個資法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/174.wav",
        "text": "可是不是一加一等於二的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/175.wav",
        "text": "根本沒有辦法解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/176.wav",
        "text": "最後還是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/177.wav",
        "text": "有個資跟著賣沒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/178.wav",
        "text": "沒個資跟著賣的都是一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/179.wav",
        "text": "這就是為什麼那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/180.wav",
        "text": "范雲委員跟我們這邊會特別期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/181.wav",
        "text": "所以先就教謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/182.wav",
        "text": "我可以先補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/183.wav",
        "text": "譬如現在的第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/184.wav",
        "text": "我們之前也有表達過一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/185.wav",
        "text": "兒少性剝削第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/186.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個型態的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/187.wav",
        "text": "他是不是也同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/188.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個犯罪的態樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/189.wav",
        "text": "如果這兩個其實是同一行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/190.wav",
        "text": "用競合理論的方式去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/191.wav",
        "text": "這個行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/192.wav",
        "text": "如果他有另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/193.wav",
        "text": "數罪併罰的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/194.wav",
        "text": "就會像剛剛林委員講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/195.wav",
        "text": "是兩個加起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/196.wav",
        "text": "如果這個行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/197.wav",
        "text": "就是一個行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/198.wav",
        "text": "我們會用刑罰的競合理論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/199.wav",
        "text": "漏了評價這個行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/200.wav",
        "text": "\n至於剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/201.wav",
        "text": "月琴委員提到那個刑罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/202.wav",
        "text": "應該回到量刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/203.wav",
        "text": "譬如他這個行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/204.wav",
        "text": "對被害人造成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/205.wav",
        "text": "損害是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/206.wav",
        "text": "他就可以做一個刑罰的評價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/207.wav",
        "text": "一年以上的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/208.wav",
        "text": "去做一個法的評價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/209.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/210.wav",
        "text": "其實不會有委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/211.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說的這樣一個情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/212.wav",
        "text": "用加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/213.wav",
        "text": "其實就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/214.wav",
        "text": "採取一種特別的立法型態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/215.wav",
        "text": "或是對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/216.wav",
        "text": "利用去做詐欺車手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/217.wav",
        "text": "我們就會對那個成年人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/218.wav",
        "text": "還會加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/219.wav",
        "text": "利用少年來做車手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/220.wav",
        "text": "其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/221.wav",
        "text": "那個就是刑法分則的加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/222.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/223.wav",
        "text": "我們還是會建議就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/224.wav",
        "text": "加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/225.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個立法的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/226.wav",
        "text": "所以委員擔心的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/227.wav",
        "text": "在職的教育訓練裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/228.wav",
        "text": "去讓大家瞭解比如報導者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/229.wav",
        "text": "這對兒少造成一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/230.wav",
        "text": "或者是參事來做一個補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/231.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/232.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/233.wav",
        "text": "各位委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/234.wav",
        "text": "法務部在這裡也就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/235.wav",
        "text": "這條是不是要定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/236.wav",
        "text": "加重其刑的條文做一個補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/237.wav",
        "text": "草案條文如果有加重其刑的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/238.wav",
        "text": "到底是依兒少性剝削"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/239.wav",
        "text": "防制條例第38條各項加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/240.wav",
        "text": "還是要依個資法規定加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/241.wav",
        "text": "其實這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/242.wav",
        "text": "這樣子規定並不是太明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/243.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/244.wav",
        "text": "呢我想從一個法理的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/245.wav",
        "text": "也來跟大家說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/246.wav",
        "text": "兒少性剝削第38條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/247.wav",
        "text": "各項加重其刑的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/248.wav",
        "text": "是一個獨立的犯行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/249.wav",
        "text": "跟兒少性剝削第38條的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/250.wav",
        "text": "這個可以評價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/251.wav",
        "text": "其實我們是可以就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/252.wav",
        "text": "數罪併罰來判斷的時候第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/253.wav",
        "text": "第38條第1項跟第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/254.wav",
        "text": "它本身的樣態是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/255.wav",
        "text": "刑度也不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/256.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在要處罰的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/257.wav",
        "text": "這個洩漏個資的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/258.wav",
        "text": "它的本質是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/259.wav",
        "text": "因為不管它是第38條第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/260.wav",
        "text": "或者是第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/261.wav",
        "text": "如果是洩漏個資而要加重的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/262.wav",
        "text": "洩漏個資這個行為本質是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/263.wav",
        "text": "如果用第5項加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/264.wav",
        "text": "它會變成不同的樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/265.wav",
        "text": "卻用各項不同的刑度加重其刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/266.wav",
        "text": "這個在法理上是不太合的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/267.wav",
        "text": "如果我們依個資法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/268.wav",
        "text": "來加重其刑的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/269.wav",
        "text": "就是有刑事處罰的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/270.wav",
        "text": "而且它是適用所有的個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/271.wav",
        "text": "如果違反個資法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/272.wav",
        "text": "而犯行的被害人是兒少的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/273.wav",
        "text": "行為人是必須要適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/274.wav",
        "text": "兒少權法第一百十二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/275.wav",
        "text": "第1項規定來加重其刑到二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/276.wav",
        "text": "其實這樣規定下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/277.wav",
        "text": "它的刑度是會重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/278.wav",
        "text": "比如說一年到七年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/279.wav",
        "text": "他就是七年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/280.wav",
        "text": "再加上兒少性剝削的二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/281.wav",
        "text": "就是個資的五年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/282.wav",
        "text": "最重可以再加變成七年半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/283.wav",
        "text": "而且如果數罪併罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/284.wav",
        "text": "就是七年再加上七年半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/285.wav",
        "text": "其實這樣的刑度應該是重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/286.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有疊床架屋的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/287.wav",
        "text": "再去增訂一個加重其刑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/288.wav",
        "text": "第38條第5項的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/289.wav",
        "text": "以上補充謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/290.wav",
        "text": "謝謝兩位的回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/291.wav",
        "text": "不過我再進一步問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/292.wav",
        "text": "因為今天性剝削是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/293.wav",
        "text": "第一次現在是又再修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/294.wav",
        "text": "這麼多年以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/295.wav",
        "text": "創意私房也不是第一天存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/296.wav",
        "text": "它已經存在十年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/297.wav",
        "text": "有因為它販賣個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/298.wav",
        "text": "想先問這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/299.wav",
        "text": "如果有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/300.wav",
        "text": "當然我們現在坐在這邊很放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/301.wav",
        "text": "有一些競合關係的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/302.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/303.wav",
        "text": "可以在這邊說服我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/304.wav",
        "text": "為什麼范雲委員會特別提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/305.wav",
        "text": "也有他背後的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/306.wav",
        "text": "原因所以可不可以在這邊就教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/307.wav",
        "text": "過去真的的確有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/308.wav",
        "text": "因為個資法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/309.wav",
        "text": "而有加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/310.wav",
        "text": "而且是一加一等於二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/311.wav",
        "text": "我們突然要去立這個法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/312.wav",
        "text": "過往已經有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/313.wav",
        "text": "但過往有沒有這樣子判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/314.wav",
        "text": "可不可以回答我這一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/315.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/316.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這樣的判例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/317.wav",
        "text": "你們真的是讓他一加一等於二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/318.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/319.wav",
        "text": "手上沒有資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/320.wav",
        "text": "販賣個資這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/321.wav",
        "text": "可能要回去查詢才有辦法確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/322.wav",
        "text": "但是我們之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/323.wav",
        "text": "在查獲創意私房的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/324.wav",
        "text": "檢察官的起訴事實其實比較著重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/325.wav",
        "text": "因為那是當時的蒐證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/326.wav",
        "text": "當時的蒐證跟起訴的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/327.wav",
        "text": "比較著重於蒐集性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/328.wav",
        "text": "跟散布性影像這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/329.wav",
        "text": "所以那時候起訴的犯罪事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/330.wav",
        "text": "還是著重在散布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/331.wav",
        "text": "就是在買賣兒少性剝削的影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/332.wav",
        "text": "所以當時這個起訴的犯罪事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/333.wav",
        "text": "並沒有去蒐集到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/334.wav",
        "text": "但是販賣個資確實是屬於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/335.wav",
        "text": "以委員舉例的這個情節來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/336.wav",
        "text": "其實真的按照個資法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/337.wav",
        "text": "他會有另外一條罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/338.wav",
        "text": "乎都是合併個資賣連觸感空間都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/339.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/340.wav",
        "text": "今天血淋淋的這些受害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/341.wav",
        "text": "即便他的臉書換了一些名稱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/342.wav",
        "text": "都還是被跟騷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/343.wav",
        "text": "你說他後半輩子要怎麼去過生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/344.wav",
        "text": "甚至他以後面對到交友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/345.wav",
        "text": "結婚這些都是問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/346.wav",
        "text": "所以我們為什麼特別認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/347.wav",
        "text": "合併個資販賣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/348.wav",
        "text": "跟一般只是去販賣影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/349.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/350.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會問你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/351.wav",
        "text": "如果今天不要去加重二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/352.wav",
        "text": "過去一定都是一加一等於二的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/353.wav",
        "text": "當然對我們來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/354.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得很放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/355.wav",
        "text": "不用特別在這邊去加重二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/356.wav",
        "text": "我沒有辦法說一定是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/357.wav",
        "text": "至於過去我目前得到的資訊就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/358.wav",
        "text": "性影像的散布而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/359.wav",
        "text": "既然委員在這邊有提到的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/360.wav",
        "text": "們可以利用婦幼訓的過程當中去宣導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/361.wav",
        "text": "有關於散布個資的意識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/362.wav",
        "text": "這次兒少性剝削條例裡面也有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/363.wav",
        "text": "我們要做專業訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/364.wav",
        "text": "因為其實檢察官辦案說實在話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/365.wav",
        "text": "所以大家可能就是著那個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/366.wav",
        "text": "看到是性影像就針對性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/367.wav",
        "text": "增訂的這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/368.wav",
        "text": "其實我們研究就像我們參事剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/369.wav",
        "text": "因為他到底是依哪一個條項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/370.wav",
        "text": "去做加重二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/371.wav",
        "text": "其實條文沒有寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/372.wav",
        "text": "到底是依原來第38條第1項第2項加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/373.wav",
        "text": "還是依原來的個資法加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/374.wav",
        "text": "如果依原來的個資法加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/375.wav",
        "text": "如果說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/376.wav",
        "text": "我散布的個資其實被害人就是兒少的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/377.wav",
        "text": "違反個資法加兒權法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/378.wav",
        "text": "那就已經有二分之一了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/379.wav",
        "text": "但是如果是依照第38條的第1項第2項加重的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/380.wav",
        "text": "就像剛剛參事講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/381.wav",
        "text": "今天他散布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/382.wav",
        "text": "不然的話你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/383.wav",
        "text": "今天有散布性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/384.wav",
        "text": "然後後面再販賣個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/385.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/386.wav",
        "text": "其實我們不太知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/387.wav",
        "text": "為什麼後面販賣個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/388.wav",
        "text": "要跟隨著他賣的性影像的那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/389.wav",
        "text": "就是法理上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/390.wav",
        "text": "啦所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/391.wav",
        "text": "我們在看的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/392.wav",
        "text": "會一直在想以後未來要怎麼加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/393.wav",
        "text": "也是內部一直在研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/394.wav",
        "text": "我只能說我這邊可以承諾的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/395.wav",
        "text": "因為這次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/396.wav",
        "text": "委員有特別提醒我們這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/397.wav",
        "text": "以後我們就是在教育訓練的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/398.wav",
        "text": "或者是在相關的業務座談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/399.wav",
        "text": "我們就會提醒檢察官說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/400.wav",
        "text": "除了蒐證散布性影像的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/401.wav",
        "text": "布個資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/402.wav",
        "text": "就是去查扣這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/403.wav",
        "text": "因為有時候辦案其實真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/404.wav",
        "text": "那我們會提醒他們這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/405.wav",
        "text": "來林委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/406.wav",
        "text": "廳長講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/407.wav",
        "text": "委員我跟你報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/408.wav",
        "text": "張司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/409.wav",
        "text": "有交換過一點意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/410.wav",
        "text": "就是現行法的第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/411.wav",
        "text": "本來就有一個剛剛委員提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/412.wav",
        "text": "不管他是意圖營利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/413.wav",
        "text": "的這些部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/414.wav",
        "text": "本來就有加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/415.wav",
        "text": "如果說他再有販賣前兩項的性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/416.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛其實是把性影像跟個資分開來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/417.wav",
        "text": "但實際上性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/418.wav",
        "text": "如果從個資法來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/419.wav",
        "text": "其實個資裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/420.wav",
        "text": "個資法保障不是只有姓名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/421.wav",
        "text": "其實還有他的照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/422.wav",
        "text": "也就是性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/423.wav",
        "text": "足以辨識這個人就是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/424.wav",
        "text": "的這樣的性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/425.wav",
        "text": "它其實就是代表個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/426.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛第一次提出來的看法就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/427.wav",
        "text": "或者是意圖營利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/428.wav",
        "text": "去做這些散布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/429.wav",
        "text": "布本來就會同時觸犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/430.wav",
        "text": "所以個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/431.wav",
        "text": "的法定刑度5年以下是比較低的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/432.wav",
        "text": "但是為了保護兒少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/433.wav",
        "text": "這邊的刑度是比較高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/434.wav",
        "text": "所以才會有剛剛說的這個情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/435.wav",
        "text": "的確在實務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/436.wav",
        "text": "就像朱主檢剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/437.wav",
        "text": "可能在偵查中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/438.wav",
        "text": "有查到其實是像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/439.wav",
        "text": "創意私房這樣的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/440.wav",
        "text": "販賣或者是意圖營利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/441.wav",
        "text": "樣所以我們才會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/442.wav",
        "text": "這裡的加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/443.wav",
        "text": "就已經有處理到這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/444.wav",
        "text": "又再加重其刑二分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/445.wav",
        "text": "其實是同一個行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/446.wav",
        "text": "然後他其實並沒有另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/447.wav",
        "text": "樣所以我們才去做這樣一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/448.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/449.wav",
        "text": "看起來以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/450.wav",
        "text": "也沒有特別注意個資這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/451.wav",
        "text": "所以在判決的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/452.wav",
        "text": "也沒有特別去考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/453.wav",
        "text": "剛剛這樣說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/454.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點我的質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/455.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/456.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得個資不是影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/457.wav",
        "text": "因為他事實上是隨同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/458.wav",
        "text": "就讀的學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/459.wav",
        "text": "統統一起去販賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/460.wav",
        "text": "對當事人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/461.wav",
        "text": "如果單純只是影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/462.wav",
        "text": "要去辨別這個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/463.wav",
        "text": "有可能認識他的人看得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/464.wav",
        "text": "和我合併名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/465.wav",
        "text": "然後他的一些相關資訊一起販賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/466.wav",
        "text": "我覺得跟這個影片一起販賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/467.wav",
        "text": "還是不太一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/468.wav",
        "text": "這是我的第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/469.wav",
        "text": "第三點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/470.wav",
        "text": "剛才講說你個人承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/471.wav",
        "text": "我覺得今天如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/472.wav",
        "text": "承諾我有點擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/473.wav",
        "text": "這個個人承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/474.wav",
        "text": "下次換另外一個人的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/475.wav",
        "text": "就沒有辦法再去承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/476.wav",
        "text": "假設有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/477.wav",
        "text": "你們考慮到的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/478.wav",
        "text": "那可不可以考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/479.wav",
        "text": "用附帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/480.wav",
        "text": "我同意附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/481.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/482.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛聽各位這樣說明的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/483.wav",
        "text": "就有點感覺到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/484.wav",
        "text": "過去原來都不考量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/485.wav",
        "text": "因為有個資跟沒個資還是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/486.wav",
        "text": "那我也不能單純"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/487.wav",
        "text": "僅靠今天有人說明的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/488.wav",
        "text": "說他個人承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/489.wav",
        "text": "這個我也不接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/490.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/491.wav",
        "text": "下一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/492.wav",
        "text": "他沒有持續這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/493.wav",
        "text": "我有點擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/494.wav",
        "text": "所以可不可以擬附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/495.wav",
        "text": "我同意用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/496.wav",
        "text": "那就擬附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/497.wav",
        "text": "是不是確認會用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/498.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/499.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/500.wav",
        "text": "跟委員不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/501.wav",
        "text": "會說我個人承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/502.wav",
        "text": "因為其實教育訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/503.wav",
        "text": "是我們這邊負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/504.wav",
        "text": "萬一換個人會怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/505.wav",
        "text": "這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/506.wav",
        "text": "非常抱歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/507.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛跟參事有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/508.wav",
        "text": "有討論過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/509.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/510.wav",
        "text": "對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/511.wav",
        "text": "給我們的提醒跟建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/512.wav",
        "text": "如果是用附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/513.wav",
        "text": "讓我們在教育訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/514.wav",
        "text": "再加強的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/515.wav",
        "text": "是沒有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/516.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/517.wav",
        "text": "第38條就維持原條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/518.wav",
        "text": "但是加一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/519.wav",
        "text": "那就請法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/520.wav",
        "text": "提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/521.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/522.wav",
        "text": "38條維持現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/523.wav",
        "text": "\n第45條之第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/524.wav",
        "text": "45條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/525.wav",
        "text": "少性剝削防制條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/526.wav",
        "text": "於104年以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/527.wav",
        "text": "本條例的加害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/528.wav",
        "text": "於判刑確定後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/529.wav",
        "text": "有要公布姓名這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/530.wav",
        "text": "但是在104年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/531.wav",
        "text": "修這一部法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/532.wav",
        "text": "也就是國民黨跟民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/533.wav",
        "text": "都有委員提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/534.wav",
        "text": "要刪除該條文的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/535.wav",
        "text": "就是不要公布姓名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/536.wav",
        "text": "二三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/537.wav",
        "text": "所以現在要回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/538.wav",
        "text": "是不是要請委員再斟酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/539.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/540.wav",
        "text": "第二個說明就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/541.wav",
        "text": "在兒童及少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/542.wav",
        "text": "福利與權益保障法裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/543.wav",
        "text": "對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/544.wav",
        "text": "對兒少為不當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/545.wav",
        "text": "對待包括性剝削"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/546.wav",
        "text": "有得公布其姓名這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/547.wav",
        "text": "兩個說明就是過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/548.wav",
        "text": "有但是刪掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/549.wav",
        "text": "另外真的要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/550.wav",
        "text": "在兒權法裡頭有一個授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/551.wav",
        "text": "它也可以公布姓名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/552.wav",
        "text": "以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/553.wav",
        "text": "所以建議不予第"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/554.wav",
        "text": "第45條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/555.wav",
        "text": "衛福部建議不予增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/556.wav",
        "text": "委員有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/557.wav",
        "text": "如果委員沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/558.wav",
        "text": "那就不予增訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/559.wav",
        "text": "\n第51條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/560.wav",
        "text": "要做身心治療輔導或教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/561.wav",
        "text": "以及後續要做登記報到查訪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/562.wav",
        "text": "我們現在增訂在第1項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/563.wav",
        "text": "這個部分請委員參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/564.wav",
        "text": "對第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/565.wav",
        "text": "有委員建議要把輔導教育的時數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/566.wav",
        "text": "從4小時到5小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/567.wav",
        "text": "提升為從8小時到50小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/568.wav",
        "text": "所以我們修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/569.wav",
        "text": "8小時到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/570.wav",
        "text": "第51條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/571.wav",
        "text": "輔導教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/572.wav",
        "text": "增加為8小時到50小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/573.wav",
        "text": "請問各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/574.wav",
        "text": "針對第51條還有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/575.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/576.wav",
        "text": "那就按衛福部建議修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/577.wav",
        "text": "\n第55條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/578.wav",
        "text": "這邊有一個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/579.wav",
        "text": "在這一次的第3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/580.wav",
        "text": "最後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/581.wav",
        "text": "第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/582.wav",
        "text": "除第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/583.wav",
        "text": "第8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/584.wav",
        "text": "第8條之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/585.wav",
        "text": "以及第47條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/586.wav",
        "text": "後面漏了4個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/587.wav",
        "text": "施行日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/588.wav",
        "text": "由行政院定之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/589.wav",
        "text": "自公布日施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/590.wav",
        "text": "在第47條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/591.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/592.wav",
        "text": "針對第55條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/593.wav",
        "text": "衛福部所新修正的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/594.wav",
        "text": "大家有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/595.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/596.wav",
        "text": "那就按照衛福部修正版本通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/597.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛有保留第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/598.wav",
        "text": "第3條剛剛是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/599.wav",
        "text": "它涉及到哪一條的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/600.wav",
        "text": "第51條有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/601.wav",
        "text": "剛剛第51條已經通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/602.wav",
        "text": "現在警政署對於這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/603.wav",
        "text": "應該就可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/604.wav",
        "text": "我們就照衛福部的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/605.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/606.wav",
        "text": "按照衛福部的版本沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/607.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/608.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/609.wav",
        "text": "那第3條也按照衛福部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/610.wav",
        "text": "第3條的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/611.wav",
        "text": "還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/612.wav",
        "text": "中央主管機關得自行或委由民間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/613.wav",
        "text": "的規定議事處的意見是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/614.wav",
        "text": "應該要用委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/615.wav",
        "text": "而不是用委由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/616.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/617.wav",
        "text": "應該是說委由也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/618.wav",
        "text": "委由跟委託其實是都可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/619.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在當初提案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/620.wav",
        "text": "是建議寫委由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/621.wav",
        "text": "你們建議委由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/622.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/623.wav",
        "text": "但是專門委員要不要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/624.wav",
        "text": "來你說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/625.wav",
        "text": "這個部分行政程序法第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/626.wav",
        "text": "民間團體跟個人的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/627.wav",
        "text": "都是用委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/628.wav",
        "text": "這是統一的法律用詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/629.wav",
        "text": "再生醫療雙法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/630.wav",
        "text": "本來要提委由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/631.wav",
        "text": "後來都改成委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/632.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/633.wav",
        "text": "還是用標準的法律用詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/634.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/635.wav",
        "text": "那法務部的意見呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/636.wav",
        "text": "因為委託跟委由的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/637.wav",
        "text": "委託委任的定義的確是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/638.wav",
        "text": "這個議事主管說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/639.wav",
        "text": "如果在整個條文裡面沒有重複性的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/640.wav",
        "text": "建議是不是用委託的詞會比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/641.wav",
        "text": "因為這個問題之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/642.wav",
        "text": "跨部會討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/643.wav",
        "text": "我有提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/644.wav",
        "text": "但是好像是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/645.wav",
        "text": "跟後面的詞句有點重疊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/646.wav",
        "text": "我們想再檢查一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/647.wav",
        "text": "是不是有重疊的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/648.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有重疊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/649.wav",
        "text": "如果整個問題可以處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/650.wav",
        "text": "那當然是用委託會比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/651.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/652.wav",
        "text": "是不是改成委託比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/653.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/654.wav",
        "text": "因為再生醫療法才剛修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/655.wav",
        "text": "如果那邊本來是委由改委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/656.wav",
        "text": "我們也是改成委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/657.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/658.wav",
        "text": "那第3條就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/659.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/660.wav",
        "text": "因為我有兩個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/661.wav",
        "text": "是針對第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/662.wav",
        "text": "先處理完條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/663.wav",
        "text": "再處理附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/664.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/665.wav",
        "text": "如果第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/666.wav",
        "text": "大家沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/667.wav",
        "text": "就按照衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/668.wav",
        "text": "還有剛剛修正的文字通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/669.wav",
        "text": "\n我們保留的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/670.wav",
        "text": "6條都已經處理完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/671.wav",
        "text": "現在處理附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/672.wav",
        "text": "總共有3案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/673.wav",
        "text": "請警察機關應於本條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/674.wav",
        "text": "公布實施後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/675.wav",
        "text": "完成指定或設立專責單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/676.wav",
        "text": "建立資料庫之事宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/677.wav",
        "text": "並利用該資料庫協助犯罪偵查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/678.wav",
        "text": "以及透過數位鑑識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/679.wav",
        "text": "比對潛在被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/680.wav",
        "text": "\n提案人林月琴王正旭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/681.wav",
        "text": "為確保散布兒少性影像之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/682.wav",
        "text": "違法境外平台網站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/683.wav",
        "text": "得以有效封網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/684.wav",
        "text": "數位發展部應全力協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/685.wav",
        "text": "教育部通傳會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/686.wav",
        "text": "整合限制接取封網單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/687.wav",
        "text": "（包含網際網路接取服務提供者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/688.wav",
        "text": "學術網路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/689.wav",
        "text": "財團法人台灣網路資訊中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/690.wav",
        "text": "電信業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/691.wav",
        "text": "DNS業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/692.wav",
        "text": "）要求限制接取封網單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/693.wav",
        "text": "防制條例限制接取規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/694.wav",
        "text": "避免我國民眾於封網後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/695.wav",
        "text": "仍能看到違法境外平台之兒少性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/696.wav",
        "text": "\n另請數位發展部於兒少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/697.wav",
        "text": "性剝削防制條例修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/698.wav",
        "text": "公布施行後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/699.wav",
        "text": "將限制接取執行機制落實情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/700.wav",
        "text": "以書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/701.wav",
        "text": "函報立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/702.wav",
        "text": "\n提案人林月琴王正旭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/703.wav",
        "text": ".為利衛福部落實執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/704.wav",
        "text": "兒少性剝削防制條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/705.wav",
        "text": "第3條第8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/706.wav",
        "text": "有關主動巡查兒少性影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/707.wav",
        "text": "及中央主管機關辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/708.wav",
        "text": "兒少性影像移除下架業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/709.wav",
        "text": "行政院人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/710.wav",
        "text": "主計總處應全力協助衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/711.wav",
        "text": "增列預算及人力員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/712.wav",
        "text": "以因應上述新增法定業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/713.wav",
        "text": "我們現在處理附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/714.wav",
        "text": "先討論第1案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/715.wav",
        "text": "警政署有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/716.wav",
        "text": "主席還有各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/717.wav",
        "text": "警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/718.wav",
        "text": "因為有兩個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/719.wav",
        "text": "基本上有部分是相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/720.wav",
        "text": "的我這邊也先一併做說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/721.wav",
        "text": "在第1項的附帶決議裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/722.wav",
        "text": "我們在第2條第1項第3款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/723.wav",
        "text": "鑑識比對潛在被害人的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/724.wav",
        "text": "在上次黨團協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/725.wav",
        "text": "我們已經報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/726.wav",
        "text": "可能還殘存在網路的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/727.wav",
        "text": "光從影像我們是沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/728.wav",
        "text": "去辨識出他的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/729.wav",
        "text": "的目前我們在建立的資料庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/730.wav",
        "text": "是針對已知被害人的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/731.wav",
        "text": "可能仍存在網路世界的相關影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/732.wav",
        "text": "但是對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/733.wav",
        "text": "除了已知被害人以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/734.wav",
        "text": "目前我們並沒有辦法單純從影像"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/735.wav",
        "text": "就去知道這個人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/736.wav",
        "text": "我們可能會拍攝到嫌犯的影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/737.wav",
        "text": "但我們並沒有辦法從這個影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/738.wav",
        "text": "就知道嫌犯的身分是什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/739.wav",
        "text": "我們必須透過各種偵查的技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/740.wav",
        "text": "才能去發現嫌犯是什麼人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/741.wav",
        "text": "所以以我們目前的技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/742.wav",
        "text": "並不可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/743.wav",
        "text": "而且如果真的要建立這個影像的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/744.wav",
        "text": "可能還要一個龐大的資料庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/745.wav",
        "text": "包含可能要有全民的影像資料庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/746.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議附帶決議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/747.wav",
        "text": "潛在這個兩字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/748.wav",
        "text": "或是把這兩個文字拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/749.wav",
        "text": "這才是我們目前真正可行的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/750.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/751.wav",
        "text": "你說要修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/752.wav",
        "text": "把潛在兩個字拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/753.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/754.wav",
        "text": "我可以針對另外一個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/755.wav",
        "text": "也是林月琴委員所提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/756.wav",
        "text": "的在這個資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/757.wav",
        "text": "的另外一份有相近的可以一併報告嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/758.wav",
        "text": "另外一份附帶決議就是有鑑於實務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/759.wav",
        "text": "經驗常見被害人不願報案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/760.wav",
        "text": "這個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/761.wav",
        "text": "今天的第1案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/762.wav",
        "text": "已經抽回了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/763.wav",
        "text": "剛剛只報告3案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/764.wav",
        "text": "所以這一案已經抽回了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/765.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/766.wav",
        "text": "1案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/767.wav",
        "text": "本條例公布實施後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/768.wav",
        "text": "半年內完成指定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/769.wav",
        "text": "這部分就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/770.wav",
        "text": "本條例實施之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/771.wav",
        "text": "依我們現在新修訂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/772.wav",
        "text": "它必須要訂定管理使用辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/773.wav",
        "text": "那相關辦法的訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/774.wav",
        "text": "它的法制程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/775.wav",
        "text": "基本上都要花費一定的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/776.wav",
        "text": "原則上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/777.wav",
        "text": "像過去我們在修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/778.wav",
        "text": "正原民槍枝的使用辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/779.wav",
        "text": "就用了大概兩年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/780.wav",
        "text": "所有的法制作業有一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/781.wav",
        "text": "所以在整個文字上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/782.wav",
        "text": "我們建議應該是要管理使用辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/783.wav",
        "text": "訂定出來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/784.wav",
        "text": "才可以有後續的操作使用問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/785.wav",
        "text": "所以建議在文字的第四行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/786.wav",
        "text": "訂定管理使用辦法後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/787.wav",
        "text": "才有辦法去做後續的操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/788.wav",
        "text": "因為還牽涉到整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/789.wav",
        "text": "立還有它相關的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/790.wav",
        "text": "所以我們建議把半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/791.wav",
        "text": "這是我們行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/792.wav",
        "text": "在目前狀況下積極可行的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/793.wav",
        "text": "最後一段文字的潛在被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/794.wav",
        "text": "也建議把潛在這兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/795.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/796.wav",
        "text": "謝謝說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/797.wav",
        "text": "想先釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/798.wav",
        "text": "這個本來是本條例公布實施半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/799.wav",
        "text": "開始利用這些資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/800.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/801.wav",
        "text": "辦法還要一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/802.wav",
        "text": "這個我們比較不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/803.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/804.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/805.wav",
        "text": "為什麼本來寫潛在被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/806.wav",
        "text": "因為有時候這個影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/807.wav",
        "text": "在這一次沒有辦法拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/808.wav",
        "text": "或我有這個影像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/809.wav",
        "text": "但查不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/810.wav",
        "text": "那他是不是下一次的潛在被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/811.wav",
        "text": "是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/812.wav",
        "text": "去比對的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/813.wav",
        "text": "已經都知道被害人了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/814.wav",
        "text": "還要留這個做什麼用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/815.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會寫潛在被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/816.wav",
        "text": "所以這個我比較不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/817.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/818.wav",
        "text": "是跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/819.wav",
        "text": "我瞭解委員的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/820.wav",
        "text": "或許過去我們偵辦中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/821.wav",
        "text": "當時還未知他的被害人是什麼人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/822.wav",
        "text": "人後續可能我偵辦之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/823.wav",
        "text": "有相關的被害人之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/824.wav",
        "text": "我要去比對過去取得的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/825.wav",
        "text": "當時無法辨識的被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/826.wav",
        "text": "我要再把他找出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/827.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們是可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/828.wav",
        "text": "的但是就文字上的認知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/829.wav",
        "text": "可能會是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/830.wav",
        "text": "未來新的陌生的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/831.wav",
        "text": "技術上不可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/832.wav",
        "text": "其實我們警察機關本來就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/833.wav",
        "text": "偵辦一個新的案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/834.wav",
        "text": "要再跟過去的這些資料庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/835.wav",
        "text": "以及當時還沒找到被害人的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/836.wav",
        "text": "用雜湊值去比對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/837.wav",
        "text": "這我們一定都會去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/838.wav",
        "text": "這沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/839.wav",
        "text": "但是潛在這個用詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/840.wav",
        "text": "可能太過廣泛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/841.wav",
        "text": "變成是未來這些陌生的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/842.wav",
        "text": "所以說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/843.wav",
        "text": "這個用詞我們建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/844.wav",
        "text": "但委員所要求的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/845.wav",
        "text": "未來我們還是會去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/846.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在做犯罪偵查時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/847.wav",
        "text": "會用雜湊值跟資料庫去做比對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/848.wav",
        "text": "這部分是沒有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/849.wav",
        "text": "剛剛半年一年這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/850.wav",
        "text": "可不可以解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/851.wav",
        "text": "要我們去訂定管理使用辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/852.wav",
        "text": "而管理使用辦法的法制作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/853.wav",
        "text": "這是從無到有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/854.wav",
        "text": "再來是它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/855.wav",
        "text": "它的相關法制作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/856.wav",
        "text": "比如說像內政部的法制單位公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/857.wav",
        "text": "它公告就必須要兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/858.wav",
        "text": "最後這個辦法必須要到行政院再做公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/859.wav",
        "text": "這整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/860.wav",
        "text": "要我們在條例實施後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/861.wav",
        "text": "後續還要去使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/862.wav",
        "text": "因此我們會建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/863.wav",
        "text": "增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/864.wav",
        "text": "9個文字訂定管理使用辦法後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/865.wav",
        "text": "因為一定要先完成前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/866.wav",
        "text": "端的法制作業才可以去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/867.wav",
        "text": "包含資料庫的建立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/868.wav",
        "text": "資料庫的建立需要相關經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/869.wav",
        "text": "也需要編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/870.wav",
        "text": "所以你是講條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/871.wav",
        "text": "實施後的一年內嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/872.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/873.wav",
        "text": "條例實施訂定管理使用辦法後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/874.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/875.wav",
        "text": "辦法後還要再一年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/876.wav",
        "text": "我覺得真的太長了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/877.wav",
        "text": "如果這個又一年的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/878.wav",
        "text": "那不是一年半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/879.wav",
        "text": "因為行政程序上有一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/880.wav",
        "text": "我們會儘快去完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/881.wav",
        "text": "只是一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/882.wav",
        "text": "我覺得只是用個人承諾這些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/883.wav",
        "text": "可是現在如果給你定了一年時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/884.wav",
        "text": "就花了一年半的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/885.wav",
        "text": "如果我們政府體系這麼緩慢的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/886.wav",
        "text": "有時候緩不濟急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/887.wav",
        "text": "真的也沒有辦法救助更多的受害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/888.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/889.wav",
        "text": "第二個我還是不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/890.wav",
        "text": "把潛在拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/891.wav",
        "text": "不要半年我覺得OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/892.wav",
        "text": "可是如果你說訂定辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/893.wav",
        "text": "後又要再一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/894.wav",
        "text": "搞不好是拖個兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/895.wav",
        "text": "而不是一年半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/896.wav",
        "text": "因為一定要有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/897.wav",
        "text": "是沒辦法去做後續的操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/898.wav",
        "text": "預估辦法大概多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/899.wav",
        "text": "那就辦法之後的半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/900.wav",
        "text": "我同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/901.wav",
        "text": "好我們來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/902.wav",
        "text": "那就是建議增加文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/903.wav",
        "text": "訂定管理使用辦法後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/904.wav",
        "text": "委員也接受我們剛剛所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/905.wav",
        "text": "它不是對於未來的潛在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/906.wav",
        "text": "而是對於過去影像的潛在的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/907.wav",
        "text": "那就已經是被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/908.wav",
        "text": "剛才正旭委員也建議說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/909.wav",
        "text": "那用可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/910.wav",
        "text": "不要告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/911.wav",
        "text": "你們一定會去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/912.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這種承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/913.wav",
        "text": "我實在不太能在這邊知道你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/914.wav",
        "text": "你們一定會去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/915.wav",
        "text": "所以我為什麼加這個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/916.wav",
        "text": "可能未來有發生這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/917.wav",
        "text": "我還是要再三強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/918.wav",
        "text": "那個不會是現在存在的被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/919.wav",
        "text": "從這個影像找到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/920.wav",
        "text": "過去沒有發現的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/921.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/922.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會希望用潛在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/923.wav",
        "text": "你們要用什麼字眼來說服我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/924.wav",
        "text": "如果單純只講被害人的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/925.wav",
        "text": "我是不同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/926.wav",
        "text": "或許可以用可能被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/927.wav",
        "text": "因為潛在我們會講未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/928.wav",
        "text": "我們應該可以做得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/929.wav",
        "text": "在文字上可能會比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/930.wav",
        "text": "第一個是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/931.wav",
        "text": "在辦法後的半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/932.wav",
        "text": "或者就是這個條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/933.wav",
        "text": "實施後的一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/934.wav",
        "text": "這是第一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/935.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是改成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/936.wav",
        "text": "還是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/937.wav",
        "text": "訂定管理使用辦法後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/938.wav",
        "text": "因為那個辦法一定要先存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/939.wav",
        "text": "我們會儘快去作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/940.wav",
        "text": "我們同意委員所提改為可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/941.wav",
        "text": "那就按照剛剛修正的文字通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/942.wav",
        "text": "訂定管理辦法後半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/943.wav",
        "text": "改成可能\n被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/944.wav",
        "text": "委員還有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/945.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/946.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/947.wav",
        "text": "有意見是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/948.wav",
        "text": "報告主席跟各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/949.wav",
        "text": "數位發展部針對附帶決議第2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/950.wav",
        "text": "有兩點建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/951.wav",
        "text": "文字的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/952.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議內容裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/953.wav",
        "text": "出現封網這個文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/954.wav",
        "text": "建議用限制接取來替代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/955.wav",
        "text": "第一行的最後兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/956.wav",
        "text": "第二行的最後兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/957.wav",
        "text": "第四行也是一樣最後兩個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/958.wav",
        "text": "還有第六行的第四個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/959.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個文字修正建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/960.wav",
        "text": "依照我們已經通過的草案第8條之1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/961.wav",
        "text": "1對於所謂限制接取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/962.wav",
        "text": "協助限制接取主管機關來執行這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/963.wav",
        "text": "除了數位發展部以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/964.wav",
        "text": "還有教育部通傳會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/965.wav",
        "text": "法務主管機關及警政主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/966.wav",
        "text": "書面報告的函報執行結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/967.wav",
        "text": "適不適當建議可以再考量一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/968.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/969.wav",
        "text": "聽起來有點模糊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/970.wav",
        "text": "要不然要怎麼修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/971.wav",
        "text": "所有的單位都列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/972.wav",
        "text": "報告主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/973.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們是協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/974.wav",
        "text": "這些單位是協助主管機關來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/975.wav",
        "text": "由主管機關來做書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/976.wav",
        "text": "或者是由協助機關來做書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/977.wav",
        "text": "這可以再考量一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/978.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/979.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/980.wav",
        "text": "第一個我同意用限制接取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/981.wav",
        "text": "第二個這邊為什麼會這樣寫是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/982.wav",
        "text": "因為我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/983.wav",
        "text": "這已經是你們的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/984.wav",
        "text": "所以我們沒有特別要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/985.wav",
        "text": "事實上是趕快封網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/986.wav",
        "text": "用比較單純的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/987.wav",
        "text": "想法如果那樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/988.wav",
        "text": "因為限制接取的這個工作是你們在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/989.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要求其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/990.wav",
        "text": "我要看的只是這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/991.wav",
        "text": "那個影響自身啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/992.wav",
        "text": "所以我只要看這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/993.wav",
        "text": "報告林委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/994.wav",
        "text": "員我們其實是督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/995.wav",
        "text": "TWNIC網資中心來做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/996.wav",
        "text": "但是封網這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/997.wav",
        "text": "除了網際網路接取服務提供者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/998.wav",
        "text": "還有學術網路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/999.wav",
        "text": "及一些其他的電信業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1000.wav",
        "text": "而為什麼協助機關會列這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1001.wav",
        "text": "是不是一個最好的報告方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1002.wav",
        "text": "大概是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1003.wav",
        "text": "誠如主席講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1004.wav",
        "text": "的你們有沒有什麼字眼上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1005.wav",
        "text": "的要把全部的部會都列上去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1006.wav",
        "text": "你們希望可以怎麼修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1007.wav",
        "text": "我自己的看法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1008.wav",
        "text": "有下達一個限制接取的命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1009.wav",
        "text": "不管是所謂的電信業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1010.wav",
        "text": "或者是一些網路接取服務提供者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1011.wav",
        "text": "學術網路等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1012.wav",
        "text": "他們就一起來做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1013.wav",
        "text": "同步來完成這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1014.wav",
        "text": "執行命令的機關一起做報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1015.wav",
        "text": "這兩個角度是不太一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1016.wav",
        "text": "這是我的想法以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1017.wav",
        "text": "本來是希望他們的報告內容focus在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1018.wav",
        "text": "事實上財團法人也是你們附屬的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1019.wav",
        "text": "可以瞭解限制接取的執行狀況是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1020.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有馬上進行封網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1021.wav",
        "text": "因為影響比較深"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1022.wav",
        "text": "而且只有這個半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1023.wav",
        "text": "先讓我們瞭解一下落實的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1024.wav",
        "text": "又不是未來持續要這樣子做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1025.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就不懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1026.wav",
        "text": "因為過去數位發展部沒有放進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1027.wav",
        "text": "其他的部會已經有運作過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1028.wav",
        "text": "後來大家針對於限制接取這件事情很看重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1029.wav",
        "text": "而且我們也只有要求一次半年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1030.wav",
        "text": "把它送進來看一下落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1031.wav",
        "text": "況讓我們衛環的委員可以更知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1032.wav",
        "text": "下一次質詢時的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1033.wav",
        "text": "也可以更明確地知道哪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1034.wav",
        "text": "政府能做得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1035.wav",
        "text": "所以才會把它列進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1036.wav",
        "text": "來看這個執行的落實情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1037.wav",
        "text": "否則上次也是衛福部行文給你們之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1038.wav",
        "text": "事實上你們可以做到但沒有馬上有效封網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1039.wav",
        "text": "要等到拿到公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1040.wav",
        "text": "而且我們這樣子要求同時也可以看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1041.wav",
        "text": "如果你有沒有封網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1042.wav",
        "text": "因為要等衛福部的公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1043.wav",
        "text": "現在如果可以做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1044.wav",
        "text": "你們是不是趕快做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1045.wav",
        "text": "讓傷害可以降到最低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1046.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就先看半年內的狀況是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1047.wav",
        "text": "這個附帶決議建議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1048.wav",
        "text": "第1項重點放在整合是沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1049.wav",
        "text": "的第2項我也理解數位發展部的長官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1050.wav",
        "text": "他在意的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1051.wav",
        "text": "另請數位發展部後面修正為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1052.wav",
        "text": "配合衛生福利部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1053.wav",
        "text": "加配合衛生福利部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1054.wav",
        "text": "跟主席及林委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1055.wav",
        "text": "所以其他的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1056.wav",
        "text": "執行的情形我們可能沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1057.wav",
        "text": "大概是這樣的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1058.wav",
        "text": "不是我們不願意做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1059.wav",
        "text": "而是事實上我們的資料是有限的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1060.wav",
        "text": "如果就剛剛保護司司長講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1061.wav",
        "text": "因為我們想知道那半年的執行狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1062.wav",
        "text": "才有辦法供衛環委員去檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1063.wav",
        "text": "要不要進一步再做些什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1064.wav",
        "text": "按照衛福部這樣的修正文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1065.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1066.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1067.wav",
        "text": "就按照剛剛司長建議的修正文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1068.wav",
        "text": "再加上配合衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1069.wav",
        "text": "這幾個字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1070.wav",
        "text": "第2案修正通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1071.wav",
        "text": "報告主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1072.wav",
        "text": "主計總處針對附帶決議第3案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1073.wav",
        "text": "建議修正文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1074.wav",
        "text": "按照我們現行通過的修正草案第3條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1075.wav",
        "text": "有明定中央主管機關應獨立編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1076.wav",
        "text": "預算辦理兒童及少年性剝削"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1077.wav",
        "text": "防制業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1078.wav",
        "text": "另外按照我們預算籌編的精神及規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1079.wav",
        "text": "部會面對新增的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1080.wav",
        "text": "還是優先在行政院核定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1081.wav",
        "text": "概算額度內來編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1082.wav",
        "text": "可以循程序提報額度外的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1083.wav",
        "text": "因此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1084.wav",
        "text": "文字主計總處應全力協助衛福部增列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1085.wav",
        "text": "可以修正為主計總處應協助衛福部編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1086.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1087.wav",
        "text": "沒有增列而是編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1088.wav",
        "text": "按照我們現在通過的第3條條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1089.wav",
        "text": "其實衛福部本來就應該按照新通過的條文去配置該有的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1090.wav",
        "text": "寫增列有什麼問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1091.wav",
        "text": "應該也沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1092.wav",
        "text": "啊因為如果是配合現行的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1093.wav",
        "text": "它就是會增列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1094.wav",
        "text": "就是送上去後你們不要砍就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1095.wav",
        "text": "跟主席報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1096.wav",
        "text": "的確按照我們預算籌編的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1097.wav",
        "text": "該增列的就要增列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1098.wav",
        "text": "當然在額度內編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1099.wav",
        "text": "我們原則上都不會去砍部會的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1100.wav",
        "text": "這樣的文字看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1101.wav",
        "text": "似乎這樣的文字通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1102.wav",
        "text": "主計總處就要在額度外來增列相關的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1103.wav",
        "text": "我們來協助衛福部編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1104.wav",
        "text": "因為這個協助當然就包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1105.wav",
        "text": "衛福部在額度內編列的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1106.wav",
        "text": "我們會優先來支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1107.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1108.wav",
        "text": "衛福部表示一下意見好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1109.wav",
        "text": "尊重主總的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1110.wav",
        "text": "所以那個文字修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1111.wav",
        "text": "你們同意是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1112.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1113.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1114.wav",
        "text": "衛福部沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1115.wav",
        "text": "委員也沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1116.wav",
        "text": "就按照剛剛修正的文字通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1117.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1118.wav",
        "text": "第38條附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1119.wav",
        "text": "觸感空間等非法論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1120.wav",
        "text": "除販賣兒少性剝削影像外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1121.wav",
        "text": "常有販賣兒少被害人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1122.wav",
        "text": "個資之情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1123.wav",
        "text": "對於兒少身心危害甚鉅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1124.wav",
        "text": "爰請法務部對檢察官強化相關教育訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1125.wav",
        "text": "以提升對兒少權益的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1126.wav",
        "text": "請法務部針對這個提案表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1127.wav",
        "text": "非常感謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1128.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們也有就這個附帶決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1129.wav",
        "text": "進行先前的一個討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1130.wav",
        "text": "但是看到決議的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1131.wav",
        "text": "因為強化社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1132.wav",
        "text": "還有對個資的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1133.wav",
        "text": "這應該要有全民的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1134.wav",
        "text": "才會有全面性的成效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1135.wav",
        "text": "如果單單是法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1136.wav",
        "text": "或者是檢察官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1137.wav",
        "text": "我想這是不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1138.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法竟全功的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1139.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是建議應該是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1140.wav",
        "text": "擴大相關權責機關的教育訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1141.wav",
        "text": "促請大家一起努力來提升兒少權益的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1142.wav",
        "text": "檢察官我想那個效果可能會有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1143.wav",
        "text": "可以加上相關的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1144.wav",
        "text": "警政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1145.wav",
        "text": "等等是不是也應該一併放在教育訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1146.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1147.wav",
        "text": "接警政單位或者是警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1148.wav",
        "text": "就是相關的人員也都應該要訓練就是了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1149.wav",
        "text": "警政單位還是警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1150.wav",
        "text": "警政署有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1151.wav",
        "text": "檢察機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1152.wav",
        "text": "警政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1153.wav",
        "text": "剛剛一開始我們是提到司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1154.wav",
        "text": "不曉得司法院有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1155.wav",
        "text": "就是司法院法務部警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1156.wav",
        "text": "用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1157.wav",
        "text": "先從行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1158.wav",
        "text": "來做因為案發在第一線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1159.wav",
        "text": "應該是司法警察機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1160.wav",
        "text": "其實司法院法院是在最後端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1161.wav",
        "text": "舉例來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1162.wav",
        "text": "剛剛林月琴委員最擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1163.wav",
        "text": "評價不足問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1164.wav",
        "text": "必須要靠第一線警察的蒐證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1165.wav",
        "text": "他到底有沒有販賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1166.wav",
        "text": "而不是只有前端的散布而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1167.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會希望從第一線的行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1168.wav",
        "text": "這也是兒權公約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1169.wav",
        "text": "從前端的行政機關一直到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1170.wav",
        "text": "法務部所屬這些警察機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1171.wav",
        "text": "然後再到法院系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1172.wav",
        "text": "大概都要包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1173.wav",
        "text": "我覺得其他的行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1174.wav",
        "text": "NCC這些相關協助衛福部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1175.wav",
        "text": "基本的素養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1176.wav",
        "text": "其實才是足夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1177.wav",
        "text": "大概都應該要有這樣的基本素養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1178.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1179.wav",
        "text": "請法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1180.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1181.wav",
        "text": "已經通過的第5條最後一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1182.wav",
        "text": "最後這一項的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1183.wav",
        "text": "它最後一項文字是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1184.wav",
        "text": "中央警政主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1185.wav",
        "text": "中央法務主管機關及司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1186.wav",
        "text": "應適時辦理兒童及少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1187.wav",
        "text": "性剝削防制教育訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1188.wav",
        "text": "以充實調查偵查或審理兒童"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1189.wav",
        "text": "及少年性剝削案件之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1190.wav",
        "text": "司法警察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1191.wav",
        "text": "司法警察官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1192.wav",
        "text": "檢察事務官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1193.wav",
        "text": "檢察官或法官之辦案專業素養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1194.wav",
        "text": "即我們的決議剛好可以配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1195.wav",
        "text": "也比較全面性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1196.wav",
        "text": "以上提供給委員們參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1197.wav",
        "text": "好我想是不是就按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1198.wav",
        "text": "剛剛汪參事所建議的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1199.wav",
        "text": "修正通過好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1200.wav",
        "text": "我確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1201.wav",
        "text": "只是後邊有一些改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1202.wav",
        "text": "這邊最重要的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1203.wav",
        "text": "個資的狀況在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1204.wav",
        "text": "判的時候要能夠很確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1205.wav",
        "text": "所以前面文字保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1206.wav",
        "text": "嘛只是後邊增加了其他行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1207.wav",
        "text": "的對於相關人員的訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1208.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1209.wav",
        "text": "我想再確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1210.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1211.wav",
        "text": "我建議就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1212.wav",
        "text": "司法相關機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1213.wav",
        "text": "落實本條例第5條相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1214.wav",
        "text": "以提升對兒少權益的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1215.wav",
        "text": "爰請法務部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1216.wav",
        "text": "這樣太針對性的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1217.wav",
        "text": "第5條最後一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1218.wav",
        "text": "相關規定應該就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1219.wav",
        "text": "針對剛剛司長這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1220.wav",
        "text": "文字建議有沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1221.wav",
        "text": "就是第5條第4項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1222.wav",
        "text": "月琴委員的意思是要強調個資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1223.wav",
        "text": "的部分因為前面這個決議的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1224.wav",
        "text": "有常有販賣兒少被害人個資之情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1225.wav",
        "text": "這個部分委員是不是覺得夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1226.wav",
        "text": "還是我們要再多一句什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1227.wav",
        "text": "跟個資有關的文字嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1228.wav",
        "text": "我的意思就是除了這樣的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1229.wav",
        "text": "我們還要再加強嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1230.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣就夠的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1231.wav",
        "text": "我們建議就照剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1232.wav",
        "text": "張司長的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1233.wav",
        "text": "我們就把落實第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1234.wav",
        "text": "第4項強化相關教育訓練\n的文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1235.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣應該是很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1236.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1237.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1238.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1239.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1240.wav",
        "text": "張司長建議的修正文字通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1241.wav",
        "text": "第4案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1242.wav",
        "text": "現在協商的條文跟附帶決議都已經處理完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1243.wav",
        "text": "條次及援引條次授權議事人員調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1244.wav",
        "text": "立法說明如有需要補充或調整部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1245.wav",
        "text": "授權行政機關處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1246.wav",
        "text": "其餘均照審查會審查結果通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1247.wav",
        "text": "本案協商會議到此結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1248.wav",
        "text": "\n我們先休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1249.wav",
        "text": "稍後繼續協商全民健康保險法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1250.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1251.wav",
        "text": "與全民健康保險法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1252.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1253.wav",
        "text": "開會接下來召開關於全民健康保險法修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1254.wav",
        "text": "第2次的黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1255.wav",
        "text": "今天要併案協商的全民健康保險法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1256.wav",
        "text": "第62條修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1257.wav",
        "text": "共計5案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1258.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀有2案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1259.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1260.wav",
        "text": "因為之前我們在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1261.wav",
        "text": "參加WHA大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1262.wav",
        "text": "所以我們等部長回來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1263.wav",
        "text": "今天再召開一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1264.wav",
        "text": "是不是部長要先跟大家講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1265.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1266.wav",
        "text": "衛福部對於第62條修正草案的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1267.wav",
        "text": "你們是不是已經同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1268.wav",
        "text": "健保點值一點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1269.wav",
        "text": "我們先請部長說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1270.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1271.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1272.wav",
        "text": "因為這個案子部長還沒有完整說明過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1273.wav",
        "text": "讓部長報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1274.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1275.wav",
        "text": "給我這個機會跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1276.wav",
        "text": "也抱歉上次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1277.wav",
        "text": "大會跟陳菁徽委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1278.wav",
        "text": "王正旭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1279.wav",
        "text": "大家一起在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1280.wav",
        "text": "把我們臺灣的醫療成就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1281.wav",
        "text": "展示給國際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1282.wav",
        "text": "也感謝大家關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1283.wav",
        "text": "健保法第62條修法保障點值一案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1284.wav",
        "text": "因為其中涉及健保合理支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1285.wav",
        "text": "保障醫護收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1286.wav",
        "text": "穩定點值等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1287.wav",
        "text": "都是本部非常重視的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1288.wav",
        "text": "因此合理的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1289.wav",
        "text": "本部與各委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1290.wav",
        "text": "\n全民健保實施已28年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1291.wav",
        "text": "健保總額支付制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1292.wav",
        "text": "實施也有22年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1293.wav",
        "text": "當時總額支付制度規劃及推動的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1294.wav",
        "text": "係希望透過前瞻性協定與分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1295.wav",
        "text": "並與醫界共同分擔財務風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1296.wav",
        "text": "合理控制醫療費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1297.wav",
        "text": "然而現今面對新醫療科技發展及人口老化等挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1298.wav",
        "text": "現行總額支付制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1299.wav",
        "text": "在收入面支出面都必須要再精進改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1300.wav",
        "text": "才能促進醫療體系健全發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1301.wav",
        "text": "落實健保永續經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1302.wav",
        "text": "\n有關修正健保法第62條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1303.wav",
        "text": "將現行健保總額支付制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1304.wav",
        "text": "由支出上限制改為支出目標制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1305.wav",
        "text": "全面保障點值為每點0.95元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1306.wav",
        "text": "需增加預算約705億元及1,155億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1307.wav",
        "text": "因涉及整體政府預算財務規劃與分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1308.wav",
        "text": "實需審慎研議與籌措"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1309.wav",
        "text": "如以公務預算支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1310.wav",
        "text": "將大幅增加政府財務負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1311.wav",
        "text": "尚須行政院主計總處依預算法或財政收支劃分法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1312.wav",
        "text": "規劃確認始有經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1313.wav",
        "text": "如由健保收入支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1314.wav",
        "text": "安全準備114年一次用磬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1315.wav",
        "text": "113年底即須調整費率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1316.wav",
        "text": "增加民眾負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1317.wav",
        "text": "包括還沒上任時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1318.wav",
        "text": "就已經為達健康台灣健保永續經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1319.wav",
        "text": "標在賴總統的指示之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1320.wav",
        "text": "凝聚提出優化醫療環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1321.wav",
        "text": "確保全民健康十大策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1322.wav",
        "text": "但都是重要的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1323.wav",
        "text": "兼顧社會公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1324.wav",
        "text": "\n二提升健保效率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1325.wav",
        "text": "抑制不必要支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1326.wav",
        "text": "\n三改革總額制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1327.wav",
        "text": "穩定醫療服務點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1328.wav",
        "text": "\n四整合預防保健資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1329.wav",
        "text": "無縫銜接長照體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1330.wav",
        "text": "\n五改善醫療執業環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1331.wav",
        "text": "穩定人力供給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1332.wav",
        "text": "\n六檢討健保藥品政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1333.wav",
        "text": "扶持國內製藥產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1334.wav",
        "text": "\n七檢討商業保險制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1335.wav",
        "text": "強化民眾醫療保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1336.wav",
        "text": "\n八加速醫療資訊升級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1337.wav",
        "text": "智慧醫療服務轉型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1338.wav",
        "text": "\n九優化醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1339.wav",
        "text": "育才和留才的工作條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1340.wav",
        "text": "\n十優化評鑑工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1341.wav",
        "text": "幾個月所有的行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1342.wav",
        "text": "包括衛福部還有行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1343.wav",
        "text": "不但有了組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1344.wav",
        "text": "我想這個應該跟各位委員先進報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1345.wav",
        "text": "另外考量修法保障點值之財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1346.wav",
        "text": "有其不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1347.wav",
        "text": "本部刻已就收支議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1348.wav",
        "text": "通盤檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1349.wav",
        "text": "積極研擬各項改革措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1350.wav",
        "text": "藉以逐步達到穩定點值的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1351.wav",
        "text": "\n第一在收入面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1352.wav",
        "text": "我們積極規劃多元化財務方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1353.wav",
        "text": "包括擴大保險費基"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1354.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的錢繼續能夠擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1355.wav",
        "text": "這個說實在才是醫療單位比較重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1356.wav",
        "text": "另外也排除非健保法規定的福利項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1357.wav",
        "text": "經費於政府負擔的36%之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1358.wav",
        "text": "不要塞在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1359.wav",
        "text": "這部分大概也可以節省"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1360.wav",
        "text": "應該有超過100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1361.wav",
        "text": "爭取公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1362.wav",
        "text": "挹注健保這部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1363.wav",
        "text": "有些計畫比如公衛或相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1364.wav",
        "text": "計畫本來應該另外在公務預算編列但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1365.wav",
        "text": "過去有一些把它弄在健保裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1366.wav",
        "text": "這個部分也會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1367.wav",
        "text": "當然我們應該爭取必要的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1368.wav",
        "text": "我們要爭取公務預算來挹注健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1369.wav",
        "text": "當然我們會檢討保險費率的上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1370.wav",
        "text": "並研議修正相關的法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1371.wav",
        "text": "如全民健康保險基金收支保管及運用辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1372.wav",
        "text": "有些是辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1373.wav",
        "text": "有些未來在中程長程的時候可能需要修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1374.wav",
        "text": "設立癌藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1375.wav",
        "text": "並爭取以公務預算撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1376.wav",
        "text": "應該很快就可以實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1377.wav",
        "text": "另也研議將公共衛生性質之項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1378.wav",
        "text": "告過健保的改革絕對要配合醫療政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1379.wav",
        "text": "或者體系的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1380.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要落實推動分級醫療家醫制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1381.wav",
        "text": "推動適當的DRG制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1382.wav",
        "text": "優先保障住院及急重症照護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1383.wav",
        "text": "因為急重症是重中之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1384.wav",
        "text": "這個一定要保護好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1385.wav",
        "text": "確保山地離島資源不足地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1386.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們臺灣全民健保幾乎現在是模範的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1387.wav",
        "text": "必須要做到的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1388.wav",
        "text": "當然我們要落實抑制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1389.wav",
        "text": "資源不當耗用及重複用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1390.wav",
        "text": "檢查檢驗管理等措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1391.wav",
        "text": "以提升資源配置的效益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1392.wav",
        "text": "長期策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1393.wav",
        "text": "並將包含支付制度的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1394.wav",
        "text": "藥價差方面的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1395.wav",
        "text": "\n感謝大院各位委員對於健保政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1396.wav",
        "text": "與醫療環境之關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1397.wav",
        "text": "並提出諸多指點及監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1398.wav",
        "text": "本部及健保署將與各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1399.wav",
        "text": "共同努力朝穩定健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1400.wav",
        "text": "保障醫護人員合理待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1401.wav",
        "text": "醫療體系健全發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1402.wav",
        "text": "及健保永續經營的目標前進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1403.wav",
        "text": "並祈各位委員繼續予以支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1404.wav",
        "text": "接下來就請委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1405.wav",
        "text": "大家早安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1406.wav",
        "text": "我是用我僅存的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1407.wav",
        "text": "為醫護人員發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1408.wav",
        "text": "今天其實我做了一些手板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1409.wav",
        "text": "所以也希望大家可以看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1410.wav",
        "text": "我們的確是應該要增加公共投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1411.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在要跟部長表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1412.wav",
        "text": "我們距離現實有多遙遠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1413.wav",
        "text": "\n今年我們跟王正旭委員江副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1414.wav",
        "text": "一起去洛桑管理學院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1415.wav",
        "text": "洛桑管理學院把近20年來的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1416.wav",
        "text": "都拿出來給我們看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1417.wav",
        "text": "其實我們是感到蠻驕傲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1418.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣的世界競爭力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1419.wav",
        "text": "一直在6到8名之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1420.wav",
        "text": "可是他也問我們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1421.wav",
        "text": "哇你們的醫療基礎建設的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1422.wav",
        "text": "公部門的投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1423.wav",
        "text": "居然都是24到26名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1424.wav",
        "text": "非常的慘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1425.wav",
        "text": "所以我聽了很傷心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1426.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣的醫護人員醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1427.wav",
        "text": "是用全球24到26名的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1428.wav",
        "text": "可是我們做到第一名的醫療水平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1429.wav",
        "text": "以至於我們去WHA的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1430.wav",
        "text": "有這麼多醫生問我們認不認識這個名醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1431.wav",
        "text": "那個名醫因為想要下次找他們來演講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1432.wav",
        "text": "講一下他們的手術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1433.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛部長講得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1434.wav",
        "text": "其實我們有重複的用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1435.wav",
        "text": "重複的檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1436.wav",
        "text": "這個昨天總質詢我都有質詢過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1437.wav",
        "text": "利用AI的導入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1438.wav",
        "text": "我用AI也可以質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1439.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上很多醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1440.wav",
        "text": "最簡單的慢性病衛教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1441.wav",
        "text": "也可以透過許多科技上的輔助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1442.wav",
        "text": "還有如果部長可以把這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1443.wav",
        "text": "健檢的資料統一的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1444.wav",
        "text": "其實你也不會做出不夠精準的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1445.wav",
        "text": "以至於你未來的資源配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1446.wav",
        "text": "又不平均"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1447.wav",
        "text": "所以今天為什麼我們希望可以1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1448.wav",
        "text": "是因為大家要救病人以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1449.wav",
        "text": "還要救醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1450.wav",
        "text": "醫護現在動脈已經被砍斷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1451.wav",
        "text": "動脈已經被砍斷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1452.wav",
        "text": "所以一直在流血"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1453.wav",
        "text": "在流血的此時除了馬上注入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1454.wav",
        "text": "除了馬上滴進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1455.wav",
        "text": "──為什麼一個病人來急診休克的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1456.wav",
        "text": "我們要馬上打生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1457.wav",
        "text": "因為你要趕快補進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1458.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是在止損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1459.wav",
        "text": "我們是在救醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1460.wav",
        "text": "\n這是昨天長庚急診的護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1461.wav",
        "text": "我很喜歡看一個版叫做靠北護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1462.wav",
        "text": "它裡面充滿了各種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1463.wav",
        "text": "他們把他們人生最痛苦的事寫成笑話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1464.wav",
        "text": "所以你是一邊哭一邊看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1465.wav",
        "text": "現在長庚急診的待床數已經241"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1466.wav",
        "text": "這個是醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1467.wav",
        "text": "大家可以想像區域醫院跟地區醫院嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1468.wav",
        "text": "上禮拜亞東醫院的急診科醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1469.wav",
        "text": "po出了一張照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1470.wav",
        "text": "所以那天小夜只有兩個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1471.wav",
        "text": "他一個醫生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1472.wav",
        "text": "結果來了兩個OH"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1473.wav",
        "text": "除了這兩個OHCA以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1474.wav",
        "text": "還有無數個心肌梗塞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1475.wav",
        "text": "糖尿病的緊急要處理要插管的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1476.wav",
        "text": "他們的leader馬上到別的單位去找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1477.wav",
        "text": "另外一個單位的護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1478.wav",
        "text": "還有實習生來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1479.wav",
        "text": "但是這個是好命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1480.wav",
        "text": "這兩個OHCA的人是上帝在眷顧他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1481.wav",
        "text": "如果其他單位也很忙呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1482.wav",
        "text": "他們那天完全沒有辦法應付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1483.wav",
        "text": "他其實是很感嘆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1484.wav",
        "text": "很感嘆很感嘆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1485.wav",
        "text": "他的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1486.wav",
        "text": "他為什麼今天會拍這張照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1487.wav",
        "text": "是因為他不知道5年後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1488.wav",
        "text": "他跟現在一起奮鬥的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1489.wav",
        "text": "還在不在這樣子的現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1490.wav",
        "text": "因為他們遠遠知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1491.wav",
        "text": "他們是用美國醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1492.wav",
        "text": "十分之一的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1493.wav",
        "text": "三分之一到四分之一的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1494.wav",
        "text": "可能performed的比美國人還要好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1495.wav",
        "text": "這個是長期20年以來的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1496.wav",
        "text": "那你知道靠北護理師這個群組說什麼嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1497.wav",
        "text": "靠北護理師這個群組說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1498.wav",
        "text": "蛤這樣也要po"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1499.wav",
        "text": "喔這是我們每天的常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1500.wav",
        "text": "這個北部天龍國的醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1501.wav",
        "text": "會講的事情已經是他們的常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1502.wav",
        "text": "他們的班表現在已經亂七八糟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1503.wav",
        "text": "生理時鐘完全被打斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1504.wav",
        "text": "他如果遇到育兒育嬰的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1505.wav",
        "text": "面對這樣子的班表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1506.wav",
        "text": "他只有離職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1507.wav",
        "text": "啊所以你去問基層的醫療診所醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1508.wav",
        "text": "他們現在發104"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1509.wav",
        "text": "對不對蘇醫師蘇院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1510.wav",
        "text": "發104沒有人回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1511.wav",
        "text": "是空服員業務等等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1512.wav",
        "text": "他們已經沒有辦法忍受這樣的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1513.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天要求1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1514.wav",
        "text": "不是我們在這邊要排擠到別人的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1515.wav",
        "text": "而是這是長期以來大家都應得的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1516.wav",
        "text": "只是要還給我們而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1517.wav",
        "text": "大家想一想珍奶一杯多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1518.wav",
        "text": "25元到50元10年前大概50"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1519.wav",
        "text": "元雞排也是80元到100"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1520.wav",
        "text": "元可是醫護人員的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1521.wav",
        "text": "過去20年30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1522.wav",
        "text": "隨著通膨完全沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1523.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有改變之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1524.wav",
        "text": "還在近幾年一一被打折"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1525.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是跟現實物價的世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1526.wav",
        "text": "越脫離越遙遠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1527.wav",
        "text": "\n我相信沒有一個醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1528.wav",
        "text": "或是基層診所的經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1529.wav",
        "text": "不想留才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1530.wav",
        "text": "所以上次大家也都承諾了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1531.wav",
        "text": "只要點值挹注進來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1532.wav",
        "text": "第一步馬上幫醫護人員加薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1533.wav",
        "text": "現在大家去看有賺錢的醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1534.wav",
        "text": "仔細看看誰賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1535.wav",
        "text": "\n有開停車場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1536.wav",
        "text": "有開美食街的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1537.wav",
        "text": "還有自己做投資的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1538.wav",
        "text": "就這3種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1539.wav",
        "text": "你覺得每一家都有辦法做到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1540.wav",
        "text": "基層診所是一間一間的關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1541.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我希望衛福部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1542.wav",
        "text": "能跟我們站在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1543.wav",
        "text": "跟家人一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1544.wav",
        "text": "我們要爭取自己應得的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1545.wav",
        "text": "這已經是長久以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1546.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有被平等的對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1547.wav",
        "text": "\n不要說會破壞國家的財政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1548.wav",
        "text": "你看洛桑管理學院這張圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1549.wav",
        "text": "你就知道我們現在面臨少子化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1550.wav",
        "text": "高齡化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1551.wav",
        "text": "你本就應該要投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1552.wav",
        "text": "公部門的基金預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1553.wav",
        "text": "我們遠遠不如其他世界上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1554.wav",
        "text": "最先進的這些國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1555.wav",
        "text": "所以這個本來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1556.wav",
        "text": "我們一直都要檢討的才對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1557.wav",
        "text": "因此本席在這邊也非常希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1558.wav",
        "text": "我們委員們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1559.wav",
        "text": "官員們可以多多鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1560.wav",
        "text": "繼續留在他們的崗位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1561.wav",
        "text": "健保的財務會不會倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1562.wav",
        "text": "我現在最擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1563.wav",
        "text": "醫護先垮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1564.wav",
        "text": "是不是醫護先垮會遠遠的提早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1565.wav",
        "text": "發生在健保財政先垮的前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1566.wav",
        "text": "因為心臟按摩比較腳底按摩便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1567.wav",
        "text": "通血管比通水管還便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1568.wav",
        "text": "所以目前這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1569.wav",
        "text": "我只是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1570.wav",
        "text": "大家可以馬上幫他們打生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1571.wav",
        "text": "至少讓他們撐住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1572.wav",
        "text": "不要休克"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1573.wav",
        "text": "然後其他的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1574.wav",
        "text": "我們可以繼續一起慢慢來研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1575.wav",
        "text": "就如同昨天總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1576.wav",
        "text": "跟部長一起分享的心得一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1577.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1578.wav",
        "text": "剛剛是昭姿委員先舉手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1579.wav",
        "text": "再來是蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1580.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1581.wav",
        "text": "邱部長其實健保的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1582.wav",
        "text": "已經累積數十年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1583.wav",
        "text": "您剛好上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1584.wav",
        "text": "就是說您辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1585.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1586.wav",
        "text": "包括投資不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1587.wav",
        "text": "已經有點變成巨大怪獸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1588.wav",
        "text": "了但是我們也不能就不處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1589.wav",
        "text": "不過我個人明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1590.wav",
        "text": "單純的提高點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1591.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法解決所有的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1592.wav",
        "text": "提高點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1593.wav",
        "text": "也有提高點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1594.wav",
        "text": "其他問題會出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1595.wav",
        "text": "因為等於我們又回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1596.wav",
        "text": "所謂的論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1597.wav",
        "text": "服務量來計酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1598.wav",
        "text": "酬這當然是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1599.wav",
        "text": "要檢討的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1600.wav",
        "text": "本黨民眾黨沒有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1601.wav",
        "text": "任何點值的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1602.wav",
        "text": "但是因為很多總統候選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1603.wav",
        "text": "都有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1604.wav",
        "text": "當時說希望能夠提高點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1605.wav",
        "text": "要有一些配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1606.wav",
        "text": "我今天當然沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1607.wav",
        "text": "有一些很具體的配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1608.wav",
        "text": "那個配套措施我也同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1609.wav",
        "text": "要有一個優先次序做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1610.wav",
        "text": "就是給一個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1611.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1612.wav",
        "text": "部長您最辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1613.wav",
        "text": "就是說現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1614.wav",
        "text": "了大概不能不去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1615.wav",
        "text": "等一下協商過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1616.wav",
        "text": "可能討論的點很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1617.wav",
        "text": "有幾個初步的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1618.wav",
        "text": "當然也請您概括承受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1619.wav",
        "text": "健保點值的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1620.wav",
        "text": "當然不同層級的醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1621.wav",
        "text": "它有不同的任務我理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1622.wav",
        "text": "而它的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1623.wav",
        "text": "它給付也會不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1624.wav",
        "text": "但是其中一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1625.wav",
        "text": "當然今天可能不會要處理不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1626.wav",
        "text": "之前質詢也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1627.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛提到分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1628.wav",
        "text": "出身應該最重視的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1629.wav",
        "text": "但是臺灣整個醫院面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1630.wav",
        "text": "是往倒的方向去走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1631.wav",
        "text": "已經過度了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1632.wav",
        "text": "你還又繼續增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1633.wav",
        "text": "所以臺北分區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1634.wav",
        "text": "我如果去看整個點數的分布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1635.wav",
        "text": "臺北分區其實是最嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1636.wav",
        "text": "醫院一直蓋大樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1637.wav",
        "text": "也一直同意他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1638.wav",
        "text": "成為醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1639.wav",
        "text": "其實在各區會是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1640.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1641.wav",
        "text": "有優先次序來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1642.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1643.wav",
        "text": "要來校正這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1644.wav",
        "text": "這個可以討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1645.wav",
        "text": "部長在當立委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1646.wav",
        "text": "您也覺得說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1647.wav",
        "text": "有時候我們看那個平均點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1648.wav",
        "text": "其實是有一點被扭曲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1649.wav",
        "text": "了我們其實比較重視的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1650.wav",
        "text": "浮動點值是比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1651.wav",
        "text": "就是要原真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1652.wav",
        "text": "而不是說攤扣之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1653.wav",
        "text": "或是斷頭之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1654.wav",
        "text": "你呈現的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1655.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要看的是真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1656.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1657.wav",
        "text": "因為在官網上看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1658.wav",
        "text": "就不是這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1659.wav",
        "text": "有超過1了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1660.wav",
        "text": "嘛高屏也是靠近0.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1661.wav",
        "text": "就是醫院評鑑造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1662.wav",
        "text": "臺北分區累積了那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1663.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1664.wav",
        "text": "大家都在搶資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1665.wav",
        "text": "這個部分要一起處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1666.wav",
        "text": "\n另外部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1667.wav",
        "text": "因為上次您不在的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1668.wav",
        "text": "石署長來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1669.wav",
        "text": "提高到0.95"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1670.wav",
        "text": "要增加700億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1671.wav",
        "text": "提高到1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1672.wav",
        "text": "要增加千億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1673.wav",
        "text": "這個計算基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1674.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還是要有一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1675.wav",
        "text": "就是不是喊一個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1676.wav",
        "text": "但是剛剛陳菁徽委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1677.wav",
        "text": "就一直提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1678.wav",
        "text": "嘛部長這個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1679.wav",
        "text": "不曉得您記不記得下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1680.wav",
        "text": "您知道我們現在的健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1681.wav",
        "text": "占GDP的百分之多少嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1682.wav",
        "text": "您有沒有這個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1683.wav",
        "text": "NationalHealthExpenditure"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1684.wav",
        "text": "醫療支出或一般性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1685.wav",
        "text": "一般性醫療支出大概是6.1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1686.wav",
        "text": "%但是OECD國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1687.wav",
        "text": "中位數跟平均都是9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1688.wav",
        "text": "我記得是倒數第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1689.wav",
        "text": "還第三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1690.wav",
        "text": "就是源頭的錢不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1691.wav",
        "text": "可是如果我們今天談健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1692.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在處理健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1693.wav",
        "text": "還只占50%到55%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1694.wav",
        "text": "所以是三點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1695.wav",
        "text": "三點多要照顧百分之百的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1696.wav",
        "text": "百分之百的民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1697.wav",
        "text": "這當然是奇蹟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1698.wav",
        "text": "啊因為沒有人有辦法做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1699.wav",
        "text": "用3.5來照顧所有的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1700.wav",
        "text": "所有的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1701.wav",
        "text": "而且您現在就是全保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1702.wav",
        "text": "嘛包括小病大病什麼都全保在這個裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1703.wav",
        "text": "我還是要提到法規的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1704.wav",
        "text": "你說指示藥要給付等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1705.wav",
        "text": "所以今天我覺得會碰觸到很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1706.wav",
        "text": "很敏感但是過去政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1707.wav",
        "text": "不去面對的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1708.wav",
        "text": "老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1709.wav",
        "text": "因為我質詢過薛部長兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1710.wav",
        "text": "他一個月裡面就差一百零億啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1711.wav",
        "text": "他最初說400億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1712.wav",
        "text": "後來說500億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1713.wav",
        "text": "其實都不只啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1714.wav",
        "text": "你會處理到很多醫院的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1715.wav",
        "text": "可是當我們點值在提高的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1716.wav",
        "text": "我知道你一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1717.wav",
        "text": "有其他的配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1718.wav",
        "text": "這個藥價差的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1719.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼來面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1720.wav",
        "text": "等一下我們也有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1721.wav",
        "text": "專業給付不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1722.wav",
        "text": "你逼迫醫師們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1723.wav",
        "text": "醫院們去用以藥養醫的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1724.wav",
        "text": "所以我上次質詢薛部長的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1725.wav",
        "text": "我希望他是不是有一個正常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1726.wav",
        "text": "給付方法讓醫師們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1727.wav",
        "text": "正正當當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1728.wav",
        "text": "讓醫院們正正當當的來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1729.wav",
        "text": "得到他們應有的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1730.wav",
        "text": "而不是讓他們想東想西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1731.wav",
        "text": "要去挖東牆補西牆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1732.wav",
        "text": "啦\n這個東西就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1733.wav",
        "text": "我想等一下在討論的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1734.wav",
        "text": "我還是有幾點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1735.wav",
        "text": "因為本黨沒有提出點值的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1736.wav",
        "text": "\n部長我可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1737.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法一步到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1738.wav",
        "text": "當你把點值提高的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1739.wav",
        "text": "我也希望你們有根據的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1740.wav",
        "text": "有數字的提出一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1741.wav",
        "text": "你們覺得可以優先來做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1742.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你也有提到急重病啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1743.wav",
        "text": "也許過去還有什麼燈塔型醫院等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1744.wav",
        "text": "就是有一些優先次序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1745.wav",
        "text": "就是要有時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1746.wav",
        "text": "譬如說你怎麼來規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1747.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候來解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1748.wav",
        "text": "等\n最後我們就是投資不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1749.wav",
        "text": "所以部長這不只是您的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1750.wav",
        "text": "我覺得院長跟總統都要正視這個問題啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1751.wav",
        "text": "賴總統不能只講健康臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1752.wav",
        "text": "但是他不去看數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1753.wav",
        "text": "那就輸人忝忝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1754.wav",
        "text": "剛剛陳醫師是很客氣在談說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1755.wav",
        "text": "我們醫療是一流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1756.wav",
        "text": "的很抱歉部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1757.wav",
        "text": "我們醫療不是一流的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1758.wav",
        "text": "不是因為人不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1759.wav",
        "text": "不是人不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1760.wav",
        "text": "是我們整個健康投資是不行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1761.wav",
        "text": "我隨便講幾個數字都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1762.wav",
        "text": "我們落後的很厲害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1763.wav",
        "text": "平均餘命是落後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1764.wav",
        "text": "癌症存活率是落後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1765.wav",
        "text": "新生兒死亡率也是落後的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1766.wav",
        "text": "糖尿病的合併症都是落後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1767.wav",
        "text": "都是後段班啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1768.wav",
        "text": "但是這個東西不是因為人不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1769.wav",
        "text": "而是整個投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1770.wav",
        "text": "包括我最熟悉的新藥部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1771.wav",
        "text": "你引進的速度因為沒有錢啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1772.wav",
        "text": "所以老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1773.wav",
        "text": "我不會直接去責怪石署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1774.wav",
        "text": "因為部長院長總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1775.wav",
        "text": "我覺得你們要從源頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1776.wav",
        "text": "等一下我想還有其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1777.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1778.wav",
        "text": "我再繼續表達我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1779.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1780.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請蘇清泉委員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1781.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1782.wav",
        "text": "上次協商的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1783.wav",
        "text": "所以喬到今天讓你來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1784.wav",
        "text": "大家對你非常的寄望跟尊重"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1785.wav",
        "text": "還有一個林靜儀"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1786.wav",
        "text": "次長"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1787.wav",
        "text": "石崇良一直以來都是在努力"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1788.wav",
        "text": "\n我這邊要講三點"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1789.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1790.wav",
        "text": "我們都是臨床醫師"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1791.wav",
        "text": "部長你是家醫科"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1792.wav",
        "text": "林次長他是婦產科"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1793.wav",
        "text": "石崇良是急診科"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1794.wav",
        "text": "急診是第一線"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1795.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛陳菁徽講的那些"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1796.wav",
        "text": "primaryPTCA等等"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1797.wav",
        "text": "這些都是以前他在做的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1798.wav",
        "text": "我們以前當醫生的時代"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1799.wav",
        "text": "心臟外科的時候是隔天值班"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1800.wav",
        "text": "然後我當總醫師的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1801.wav",
        "text": "第四年第五年第六年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1802.wav",
        "text": "我的前面沒有總醫師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1803.wav",
        "text": "我的後面沒有總醫師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1804.wav",
        "text": "我一個人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1805.wav",
        "text": "我也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1806.wav",
        "text": "著過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1807.wav",
        "text": "但是那一種燒盡的精神"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1808.wav",
        "text": "現在已經沒有了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1809.wav",
        "text": "現在的年輕人不可能"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1810.wav",
        "text": "剛好再加上一個新冠病毒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1811.wav",
        "text": "搞得臺灣這樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1812.wav",
        "text": "整個超乎我的想像"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1813.wav",
        "text": "年輕人他們的想法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1814.wav",
        "text": "\n所以對於現在的醫生"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1815.wav",
        "text": "你們不要用以前的想法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1816.wav",
        "text": "來要求他們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1817.wav",
        "text": "這是不可能的事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1818.wav",
        "text": "醫護人員連放射師都跑了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1819.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1820.wav",
        "text": "跑到新加坡去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1821.wav",
        "text": "在新加坡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1822.wav",
        "text": "放射師一個月的薪水"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1823.wav",
        "text": "可以拿到16萬17萬臺幣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1824.wav",
        "text": "在這邊是4萬到6萬"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1825.wav",
        "text": "現在還有一個就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1826.wav",
        "text": "因為要用x-rayscan"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1827.wav",
        "text": "所以他們現在都開8萬9萬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1828.wav",
        "text": "我跟你說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1829.wav",
        "text": "再過來放射技師會跑光"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1830.wav",
        "text": "光光這個是很嚴重的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1831.wav",
        "text": "所以到現在已經不得不面對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1832.wav",
        "text": "了我們怎麼說都不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1833.wav",
        "text": "啦\n沒有一個公共政策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1834.wav",
        "text": "是用總額預算匡著然後就丟著"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1835.wav",
        "text": "這樣搞了十幾二十年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1836.wav",
        "text": "太厲害了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1837.wav",
        "text": "政府就搞一個預算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1838.wav",
        "text": "然後丟給醫界"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1839.wav",
        "text": "整個風險控管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1840.wav",
        "text": "整個經濟的控管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1841.wav",
        "text": "0.70.6都你們的事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1842.wav",
        "text": "到現在還這樣幹"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1843.wav",
        "text": "然後整個風險"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1844.wav",
        "text": "括自己的醫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1845.wav",
        "text": "院臺大醫院也是哀哀叫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1846.wav",
        "text": "所以我要跟大家說的就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1847.wav",
        "text": "這個時候不處理已經不行了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1848.wav",
        "text": "三個總統候選人自己都這樣說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1849.wav",
        "text": "了包括柯文哲包括侯友宜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1850.wav",
        "text": "包括賴清德"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1851.wav",
        "text": "自己說的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1852.wav",
        "text": "石崇良太厲害了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1853.wav",
        "text": "嘛他叫醫院先斷頭"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1854.wav",
        "text": "斷頭後再嚴審"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1855.wav",
        "text": "請問攤扣有沒有違法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1856.wav",
        "text": "攤扣有沒有違法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1857.wav",
        "text": "你還搖頭"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1858.wav",
        "text": "攤扣完就維持0.9的假象"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1859.wav",
        "text": "那個前面都已經砍一大堆了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1860.wav",
        "text": "所以這個都是假象"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1861.wav",
        "text": "讓它通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1862.wav",
        "text": "對你們也是一個助力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1863.wav",
        "text": "讓你們有所依託"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1864.wav",
        "text": "啦\n事實就是要這樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1865.wav",
        "text": "不然就問"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1866.wav",
        "text": "問經濟部郭"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1867.wav",
        "text": "台電為什麼不可以用總額"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1868.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的公共政策只有醫療"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1869.wav",
        "text": "其他都沒有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1870.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有用總額"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1871.wav",
        "text": "它會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1872.wav",
        "text": "衝量什麼的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1873.wav",
        "text": "成長十幾趴"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1874.wav",
        "text": "這都是想像"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1875.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我們提出來折衷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1876.wav",
        "text": "元如果真的做到超出那"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1877.wav",
        "text": "那就審查"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1878.wav",
        "text": "審查之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1879.wav",
        "text": "就是以總額來做目標制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1880.wav",
        "text": "這樣不是很好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1881.wav",
        "text": "每一年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1882.wav",
        "text": "差的就是差那一"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1883.wav",
        "text": "一塊四五百零億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1884.wav",
        "text": "五六百億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1885.wav",
        "text": "那一塊10年下來就四五千億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1886.wav",
        "text": "20年下來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1887.wav",
        "text": "全部都丟給醫界"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1888.wav",
        "text": "就是摳東摳西的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1889.wav",
        "text": "然後醫界就沒有韌性"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1890.wav",
        "text": "一天到晚叫我們要有韌性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1891.wav",
        "text": "沒錢怎麼會有韌性"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1892.wav",
        "text": "啦大家都在巧立名目"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1893.wav",
        "text": "美容"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1894.wav",
        "text": "就一直往病人身上加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1895.wav",
        "text": "開刀頸椎換一個cushion"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1896.wav",
        "text": "25"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1897.wav",
        "text": "萬我也看不下去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1898.wav",
        "text": "因為醫院沒辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1899.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以自費的東西就很多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1900.wav",
        "text": "署長你應該也知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1901.wav",
        "text": "還有一個很荒唐的事情"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1902.wav",
        "text": "譬如說今年總額成長200億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1903.wav",
        "text": "新的東西就一直往裡面加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1904.wav",
        "text": "一直往裡面加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1905.wav",
        "text": "醫界在買單嘛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1906.wav",
        "text": "新的藥新的科技"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1907.wav",
        "text": "什麼都加進"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1908.wav",
        "text": "實際上今年就只增加200億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1909.wav",
        "text": "300億而已"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1910.wav",
        "text": "結果去跟整個社會答應的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1911.wav",
        "text": "就有四五百零億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1912.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1913.wav",
        "text": "沒有錢當然進不來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1914.wav",
        "text": "甚至希望不要進"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1915.wav",
        "text": "好10年都不要進"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1916.wav",
        "text": "但這是不可能的事情"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1917.wav",
        "text": "想要最新的藥進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1918.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1919.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我跟大家報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1920.wav",
        "text": "這一個議題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1921.wav",
        "text": "藍綠的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1922.wav",
        "text": "啦自己的總統候選人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1923.wav",
        "text": "了如果這個讓它通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1924.wav",
        "text": "了你說要找錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1925.wav",
        "text": "較晚實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1926.wav",
        "text": "晚個半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1927.wav",
        "text": "晚個1年再慢慢到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1928.wav",
        "text": "現在就開始努力啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1929.wav",
        "text": "啦事實上我有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1930.wav",
        "text": "石崇良署長還有我們邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1931.wav",
        "text": "這樣就折衷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1932.wav",
        "text": "趕快讓它到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1933.wav",
        "text": "或什麼臺灣都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1934.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這邊再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1935.wav",
        "text": "跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1936.wav",
        "text": "這個法還是要讓它過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1937.wav",
        "text": "過了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1938.wav",
        "text": "我們都是內行人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1939.wav",
        "text": "大家講內行話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1940.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1941.wav",
        "text": "接下來請王正旭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1942.wav",
        "text": "我就在位子上跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1943.wav",
        "text": "\n我來自醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1944.wav",
        "text": "跟大家都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1945.wav",
        "text": "所以對於如何能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1946.wav",
        "text": "把醫療資源有效提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1947.wav",
        "text": "回饋給相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1948.wav",
        "text": "做醫療服務的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1949.wav",
        "text": "同仁一定要全力支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1950.wav",
        "text": "這個是一定要做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1951.wav",
        "text": "因為健保改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1952.wav",
        "text": "也一定要透過大家努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1953.wav",
        "text": "一起來完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1954.wav",
        "text": "剛剛菁徽委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1955.wav",
        "text": "我們這次一起去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1956.wav",
        "text": "參加WHA相關的活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1957.wav",
        "text": "也去拜訪了IMD"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1958.wav",
        "text": "（洛桑管理學院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1959.wav",
        "text": "）除了剛剛菁徽委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1960.wav",
        "text": "所提的數據以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1961.wav",
        "text": "我也順便把兩個數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1962.wav",
        "text": "給大家作參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1963.wav",
        "text": "稍微微幅下降了兩名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1964.wav",
        "text": "變成第八名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1965.wav",
        "text": "不過我們在兩千萬人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1966.wav",
        "text": "最具競爭力的一個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1967.wav",
        "text": "比較有優勢的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1968.wav",
        "text": "在醫療的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1969.wav",
        "text": "它有一個item"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1970.wav",
        "text": "醫療保健基礎設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1971.wav",
        "text": "符合社會需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1972.wav",
        "text": "在這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1973.wav",
        "text": "我們的成績非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1974.wav",
        "text": "是占第三名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1975.wav",
        "text": "就是說我們的基礎設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1976.wav",
        "text": "表示我們在硬體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1977.wav",
        "text": "處理是符合社會期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1978.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就醫的可近性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1979.wav",
        "text": "醫療服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1980.wav",
        "text": "得到非常高的滿意度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1981.wav",
        "text": "弱勢的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1982.wav",
        "text": "就在於醫療保健支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1983.wav",
        "text": "占GDP比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1984.wav",
        "text": "這邊列的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1985.wav",
        "text": "是2021年的比率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1986.wav",
        "text": "它占了7.3"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1987.wav",
        "text": "%在評比裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1988.wav",
        "text": "是占第41位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1989.wav",
        "text": "意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1990.wav",
        "text": "的確我們的醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1991.wav",
        "text": "在相關的保健支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1992.wav",
        "text": "不管是透過主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1993.wav",
        "text": "或如何來增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1994.wav",
        "text": "真的也是非常非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1995.wav",
        "text": "當然這個百分比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1996.wav",
        "text": "或者是如何能夠讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1997.wav",
        "text": "更有效的精進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1998.wav",
        "text": "這個其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/1999.wav",
        "text": "關乎我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2000.wav",
        "text": "想要討論的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2001.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛部長也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2002.wav",
        "text": "我們的收入面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2003.wav",
        "text": "透過現在的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2004.wav",
        "text": "是有機會去增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2005.wav",
        "text": "相當一定數額的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2006.wav",
        "text": "希望將來也針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2007.wav",
        "text": "醫療保健占GDP的這個比率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2008.wav",
        "text": "可以有效的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2009.wav",
        "text": "除了剛剛部長所提到的以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2010.wav",
        "text": "其實醫界一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2011.wav",
        "text": "想像中的可能性就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2012.wav",
        "text": "基金有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2013.wav",
        "text": "透過公務預算來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2014.wav",
        "text": "撥補之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2015.wav",
        "text": "勞動部那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2016.wav",
        "text": "針對勞工基金的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2017.wav",
        "text": "是透過勞保基金來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2018.wav",
        "text": "讓這個運作可長可久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2019.wav",
        "text": "不至於受到太大的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2020.wav",
        "text": "有沒有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2021.wav",
        "text": "也許部長也可以讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2022.wav",
        "text": "多瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2023.wav",
        "text": "這個差異性是在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2024.wav",
        "text": "針對收入面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2025.wav",
        "text": "\n其實讓醫界最有感的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2026.wav",
        "text": "或者是剛剛我們所看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2027.wav",
        "text": "各方面──護理師人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2028.wav",
        "text": "藥師人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2029.wav",
        "text": "藥品供應不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2030.wav",
        "text": "醫院降低病床數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2031.wav",
        "text": "就是因為相關的資源不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2032.wav",
        "text": "包括急診醫療量能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2033.wav",
        "text": "我們幾乎每天隨時都會從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2034.wav",
        "text": "媒體看到這些困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2035.wav",
        "text": "我想包括在現場所有的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2036.wav",
        "text": "不管是不是從事醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2037.wav",
        "text": "都會覺得非常的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2038.wav",
        "text": "也很感心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2039.wav",
        "text": "我們希望醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2040.wav",
        "text": "讓全民健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2041.wav",
        "text": "針對疾病控制上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2042.wav",
        "text": "得到最大協助的情形下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2043.wav",
        "text": "所面臨的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2044.wav",
        "text": "這個支出面如何能夠讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2045.wav",
        "text": "我們的醫療同僚有感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2046.wav",
        "text": "我記得上一次也有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2047.wav",
        "text": "或者是相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2048.wav",
        "text": "能夠儘快提出相關的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2049.wav",
        "text": "服務民眾的過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2050.wav",
        "text": "也讓所有相關醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2051.wav",
        "text": "都有感的一些政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2052.wav",
        "text": "\n我們這邊是有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2053.wav",
        "text": "今天部長所提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2054.wav",
        "text": "非常多元支出面的這些協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2055.wav",
        "text": "當然如果醫療資源越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2056.wav",
        "text": "我們這個支出面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2057.wav",
        "text": "可以更廣泛地來處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2058.wav",
        "text": "對所有這些可能改善的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2059.wav",
        "text": "都會很有幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2060.wav",
        "text": "可是因為這個只有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2061.wav",
        "text": "很簡短的書面說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2062.wav",
        "text": "其實我們期待的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2063.wav",
        "text": "更完整的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2064.wav",
        "text": "如果我們還有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2065.wav",
        "text": "能夠把這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2066.wav",
        "text": "做更多瞭解的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2067.wav",
        "text": "相信提出來的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2068.wav",
        "text": "有一定的期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2069.wav",
        "text": "也有一定的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2070.wav",
        "text": "我們最近雖然有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2071.wav",
        "text": "針對如何去改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2072.wav",
        "text": "整個健保制度運作的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2073.wav",
        "text": "有包括健康臺灣的論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2074.wav",
        "text": "還有今天也看到總統府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2075.wav",
        "text": "有提出健康台灣委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2076.wav",
        "text": "等等的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2077.wav",
        "text": "未來如果把這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2078.wav",
        "text": "都能夠整合好以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2079.wav",
        "text": "對於今天大家所關注的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2080.wav",
        "text": "整個相關的配套之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2081.wav",
        "text": "如果這些都解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2082.wav",
        "text": "了那麼我們的健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2083.wav",
        "text": "值除了民眾瞭解以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2084.wav",
        "text": "醫療從業人員都能夠確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2085.wav",
        "text": "也希望有機會得到更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2086.wav",
        "text": "要打造健康臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2087.wav",
        "text": "包括醫療服務過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2088.wav",
        "text": "的人大家能夠非常安心地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2089.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠再從部長那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2090.wav",
        "text": "請問還有委員要發言嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2091.wav",
        "text": "林月琴委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2092.wav",
        "text": "我知道我們的健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2093.wav",
        "text": "應該要去做總體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2094.wav",
        "text": "醫護應該要有合理的報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2095.wav",
        "text": "這個我相信所有在場的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2096.wav",
        "text": "都非常認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2097.wav",
        "text": "那麼我也要重申就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2098.wav",
        "text": "急重難罕這些疾病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2099.wav",
        "text": "得不到合理的給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2100.wav",
        "text": "透過我們這次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2101.wav",
        "text": "或者是整個全民健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2102.wav",
        "text": "是不是要重新做一個審視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2103.wav",
        "text": "不去做一個重新的審視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2104.wav",
        "text": "不可能說無限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2105.wav",
        "text": "喔因為真的錢就是這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2106.wav",
        "text": "我們在不增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2107.wav",
        "text": "確實錢就是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2108.wav",
        "text": "那麼我們要怎麼保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2109.wav",
        "text": "急重難罕疾病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2110.wav",
        "text": "得到合理的給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2111.wav",
        "text": "衛福部應該要配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2112.wav",
        "text": "到底配套是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2113.wav",
        "text": "其實我剛剛也聽不到部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2114.wav",
        "text": "說就整個未來的配套是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2115.wav",
        "text": "第62條今天的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2116.wav",
        "text": "未來如果這樣子通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2117.wav",
        "text": "就之前講的──可能會增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2118.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要讓醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2119.wav",
        "text": "有一個合理的報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2120.wav",
        "text": "這個是我一定要重申的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2121.wav",
        "text": "我相信所有的委員都非常地認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2122.wav",
        "text": "這些醫護人員要合理的報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2123.wav",
        "text": "在這樣子有限的資源之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2124.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼去分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2125.wav",
        "text": "\n另外就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2126.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長也有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2127.wav",
        "text": "整個醫療體系要永續發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2128.wav",
        "text": "那麼分級醫療或者是醫藥分業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2129.wav",
        "text": "配合我們所有使用者部分負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2130.wav",
        "text": "而且我希望衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2131.wav",
        "text": "還有健保署真的要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2132.wav",
        "text": "提出一個配套出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2133.wav",
        "text": "當然我們希望保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2134.wav",
        "text": "可是我們又在不增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2135.wav",
        "text": "我覺得都有一些困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2136.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2137.wav",
        "text": "等一下也可以聽到部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2138.wav",
        "text": "你們要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2139.wav",
        "text": "我擔任召委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2140.wav",
        "text": "保障醫護人員的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2141.wav",
        "text": "還有設置百億癌症基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2142.wav",
        "text": "及健康投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2143.wav",
        "text": "在我擔任召委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2144.wav",
        "text": "案希望你們能夠來這邊做一個專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2145.wav",
        "text": "等一下是不是可以先聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2146.wav",
        "text": "部長針對這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2147.wav",
        "text": "說明你們未來要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2148.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請林月琴委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2149.wav",
        "text": "然後劉建國委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2150.wav",
        "text": "如果健保有足夠的資金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2151.wav",
        "text": "去應付這龐大的醫療支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2152.wav",
        "text": "健保的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2153.wav",
        "text": "如果每一點保證一塊的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2154.wav",
        "text": "當然有何不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2155.wav",
        "text": "以可是前提是要有足夠的資金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2156.wav",
        "text": "就可以達到這個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2157.wav",
        "text": "可是事實上不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2158.wav",
        "text": "嘛因為健保花出去的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2159.wav",
        "text": "從104年到去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2160.wav",
        "text": "每年大概以4.37%的幅度不斷增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2161.wav",
        "text": "去年到今年的成長幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2162.wav",
        "text": "甚至破紀錄高達4.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2163.wav",
        "text": "收進來的錢不夠支付這些花用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2164.wav",
        "text": "所以從106年到110年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2165.wav",
        "text": "帳面上連續5年的虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2166.wav",
        "text": "從110年到去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2167.wav",
        "text": "政府預算經費的挹注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2168.wav",
        "text": "由虧轉盈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2169.wav",
        "text": "實際上還是虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2170.wav",
        "text": "那麼這個虧損狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2171.wav",
        "text": "當然就是用醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2172.wav",
        "text": "療院所健保點值的打折"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2173.wav",
        "text": "啦少做一些檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2174.wav",
        "text": "再少跟健保領一點錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2175.wav",
        "text": "之後省下來的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2176.wav",
        "text": "可是如果不再節省"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2177.wav",
        "text": "的話換句話說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2178.wav",
        "text": "就是要把政府可以主導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2179.wav",
        "text": "打折的空間限制掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2180.wav",
        "text": "那麼健保會發生什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2181.wav",
        "text": "帳面上的虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2182.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣子一定會增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2183.wav",
        "text": "政府勢必就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2184.wav",
        "text": "挹注更多的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2185.wav",
        "text": "去補這個虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2186.wav",
        "text": "或者是以量制價的功能降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2187.wav",
        "text": "再來就是醫療資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2188.wav",
        "text": "當然是沒有辦法被控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2189.wav",
        "text": "對民眾有直接利益的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2190.wav",
        "text": "醫療政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2191.wav",
        "text": "就沒有錢去做推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2192.wav",
        "text": "了或是因為錢不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2193.wav",
        "text": "只能慢慢地去推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2194.wav",
        "text": "\n所以最重要的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2195.wav",
        "text": "有兩個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2196.wav",
        "text": "醫院對於健保的依賴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2197.wav",
        "text": "因為我們的收費市場漲不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2198.wav",
        "text": "導致健保總額瘦身的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2199.wav",
        "text": "還沒有開始就要遇到困難了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2200.wav",
        "text": "第二個今天的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2201.wav",
        "text": "如果通過後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2202.wav",
        "text": "我不知道國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2203.wav",
        "text": "是不是會接著要去提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2204.wav",
        "text": "修法調高6%費率的上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2205.wav",
        "text": "然後開始漲保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2206.wav",
        "text": "這個我想民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2207.wav",
        "text": "也是會有些壓力擔憂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2208.wav",
        "text": "他們的健保費用調高的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2209.wav",
        "text": "對於他們是收入不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2210.wav",
        "text": "又要再去繳健保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2211.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2212.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼告訴民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2213.wav",
        "text": "健康保險沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2214.wav",
        "text": "大家可以安心生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2215.wav",
        "text": "讓民眾知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2216.wav",
        "text": "這不是哪一個黨比較會執政的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2217.wav",
        "text": "而是立法院修法的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2218.wav",
        "text": "所以健保的問題沒有關係到政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2219.wav",
        "text": "是屬於每一個世代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2220.wav",
        "text": "要去共同面對到的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2221.wav",
        "text": "因此本席認為現階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2222.wav",
        "text": "不應該用法律把健保的點值變死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2223.wav",
        "text": "這樣會讓政府失去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2224.wav",
        "text": "主導調節總額支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2225.wav",
        "text": "及控制虧損額度的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2226.wav",
        "text": "可是對於嚴重虧損的醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2227.wav",
        "text": "甚至要照顧我們的醫護人員這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2228.wav",
        "text": "是不是衛福部應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2229.wav",
        "text": "可以去提出一個合理的暫時性方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2230.wav",
        "text": "然後讓衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2231.wav",
        "text": "好以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2232.wav",
        "text": "接下來請劉建國委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2233.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2234.wav",
        "text": "呼應蘇清泉委員剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2235.wav",
        "text": "有時候說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2236.wav",
        "text": "醫生基本上都很會看病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2237.wav",
        "text": "因為在他們養成的過程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2238.wav",
        "text": "抱著要救人救世的心情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2239.wav",
        "text": "所以那個精神都專注在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2240.wav",
        "text": "算那個點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2241.wav",
        "text": "並不是要逃漏稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2242.wav",
        "text": "是當時算得不是很精準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2243.wav",
        "text": "部長我今天看你的報告坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2244.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2245.wav",
        "text": "內行人寫這種報告出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2246.wav",
        "text": "也沒有很內行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2247.wav",
        "text": "今天要協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2248.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2249.wav",
        "text": "了我們要讓醫護得到合理的報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2250.wav",
        "text": "這個目標是不會有爭執的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2251.wav",
        "text": "啦但是點值要把它入法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2252.wav",
        "text": "可能會衍生後續的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2253.wav",
        "text": "內行的醫界人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2254.wav",
        "text": "你們都比大家更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2255.wav",
        "text": "所以醫界原本就有不一樣的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2256.wav",
        "text": "當你把點值法制化之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2257.wav",
        "text": "造成所有的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2258.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2259.wav",
        "text": "我們能不能就在短時間達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2260.wav",
        "text": "而且可以永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2261.wav",
        "text": "若不行的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2262.wav",
        "text": "我們就要回到真正內行的做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2263.wav",
        "text": "先不要去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2264.wav",
        "text": "是不是有一個魄力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2265.wav",
        "text": "畢竟你也是來自醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2266.wav",
        "text": "的就是希望確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2267.wav",
        "text": "醫護有合理的報酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2268.wav",
        "text": "\n健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2269.wav",
        "text": "北中南"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2270.wav",
        "text": "各區南區一直可以維持到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2271.wav",
        "text": "那其他地方為什麼不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2272.wav",
        "text": "在北中還是其他地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2273.wav",
        "text": "如果可以朝這個方向去走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2274.wav",
        "text": "而且在短時間之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2275.wav",
        "text": "好比說一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2276.wav",
        "text": "兩個月三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2277.wav",
        "text": "我是新部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2278.wav",
        "text": "我絕對努力給你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2279.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個才是真正在處理事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2280.wav",
        "text": "如果今天我們來協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2281.wav",
        "text": "你連這個話都說不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2282.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們就僵在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2283.wav",
        "text": "這樣坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2284.wav",
        "text": "也讓大家希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2285.wav",
        "text": "我們可以往前一步的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2286.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得部長是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2287.wav",
        "text": "我以為今天來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2288.wav",
        "text": "我們是有一個很大的進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2289.wav",
        "text": "有一個很大的進展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2290.wav",
        "text": "而不是僵在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2291.wav",
        "text": "我想有人要確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2292.wav",
        "text": "點值就是1點等於1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2293.wav",
        "text": "嘛當然我也有看到國民黨其他的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2294.wav",
        "text": "現在要確保的是1點等於0.95"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2295.wav",
        "text": "這個就是大家還有討論的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2296.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n所以如果以南區這樣的一個基準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2297.wav",
        "text": "我們可以努力達到這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2298.wav",
        "text": "你在一個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2299.wav",
        "text": "兩個月三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2300.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得清泉兄也是內行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2301.wav",
        "text": "陳委員也是內行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2302.wav",
        "text": "你們都是來自醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2303.wav",
        "text": "對社會面也好交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2304.wav",
        "text": "也不用去動到健保的費率等等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2305.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以朝這個方向來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2306.wav",
        "text": "請部長還有次長還有署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2307.wav",
        "text": "你們都是內行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2308.wav",
        "text": "你們是來自醫界的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2309.wav",
        "text": "是不是主席可以休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2310.wav",
        "text": "讓人家去喬一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2311.wav",
        "text": "他們內行的喬一喬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2312.wav",
        "text": "才會真的內行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2313.wav",
        "text": "因為還有兩位委員要發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2314.wav",
        "text": "我們先請邱鎮軍委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2315.wav",
        "text": "再來廖偉翔委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2316.wav",
        "text": "主席還有各位委員還有我們部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2317.wav",
        "text": "大家午安大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2318.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛聽了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2319.wav",
        "text": "我想在座很多都是來自醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2320.wav",
        "text": "我們建國委員也講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2321.wav",
        "text": "大家都內行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2322.wav",
        "text": "我們還是這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2323.wav",
        "text": "其實是我們醫護人員確實嚴重不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2324.wav",
        "text": "我們最常面對的問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2325.wav",
        "text": "常常我們的鄉親到醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2326.wav",
        "text": "然後都沒有病床"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2327.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們面臨最大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2328.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2329.wav",
        "text": "當然就是我們的醫護人員嚴重不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2330.wav",
        "text": "那醫護人員為什麼不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2331.wav",
        "text": "就是薪水不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2332.wav",
        "text": "我們培養一個醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2333.wav",
        "text": "也是要一段時間才會有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2334.wav",
        "text": "優秀的醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2335.wav",
        "text": "如果因為我們今天的政策不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2336.wav",
        "text": "導致我們的醫護人員離職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2337.wav",
        "text": "或者是轉職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2338.wav",
        "text": "那這個時候我跟大家講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2339.wav",
        "text": "這個醫護人員只要轉職之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2340.wav",
        "text": "要回來的機會其實就不大了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2341.wav",
        "text": "我們要再重新培養這樣的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2342.wav",
        "text": "又要花多少年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2343.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2344.wav",
        "text": "部裡面能夠認真的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2345.wav",
        "text": "我們調整這個健保點值1點1元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2346.wav",
        "text": "其實就是為了要照顧醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2347.wav",
        "text": "讓他更安心地留在他的職場工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2348.wav",
        "text": "來確保我們政府全民健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2349.wav",
        "text": "當醫護人員完全不夠的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2350.wav",
        "text": "我們不要講說健保破產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2351.wav",
        "text": "我們全民健保這個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2352.wav",
        "text": "將沒有辦法再執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2353.wav",
        "text": "我想這面臨的問題是越來越嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2354.wav",
        "text": "\n就像我打個比方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2355.wav",
        "text": "它是做生理食鹽水的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2356.wav",
        "text": "它雖然跟醫護人員沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2357.wav",
        "text": "因為健保一直砍價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2358.wav",
        "text": "一直砍一包點滴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2359.wav",
        "text": "從20年前的56.7"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2360.wav",
        "text": "砍到剩下25.6"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2361.wav",
        "text": "比礦泉水還低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2362.wav",
        "text": "後我們國內的廠商沒辦法活下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2363.wav",
        "text": "我們要花更多的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2364.wav",
        "text": "──兩三倍的價格去外面採購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2365.wav",
        "text": "我想醫護人員同樣是會面臨到這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2366.wav",
        "text": "假如不夠的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2367.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們將會面臨要花更多的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2368.wav",
        "text": "來做這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2369.wav",
        "text": "我也希望大家能夠認真的來考量這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2370.wav",
        "text": "我們是來解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2371.wav",
        "text": "不是製造問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2372.wav",
        "text": "因為碰到問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2373.wav",
        "text": "我們發現問題了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2374.wav",
        "text": "就是把它提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2375.wav",
        "text": "希望大家一起來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2376.wav",
        "text": "以上報告謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2377.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請廖偉翔委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2378.wav",
        "text": "在場所有委員同仁主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2379.wav",
        "text": "還有我們的衛福部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2380.wav",
        "text": "以及所有相關部會的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2381.wav",
        "text": "簡單來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2382.wav",
        "text": "我想大家應該也聽得蠻多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2383.wav",
        "text": "健保已經到了不得不改的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2384.wav",
        "text": "可是其實已經拖了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2385.wav",
        "text": "說要改也拖了很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2386.wav",
        "text": "當然今天說要保障1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2387.wav",
        "text": "我想這個是茲事體大的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2388.wav",
        "text": "不是修一條法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2389.wav",
        "text": "條或是硬要做這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2390.wav",
        "text": "就沒有要考量其他的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2391.wav",
        "text": "可是我想這段時間以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2392.wav",
        "text": "血汗醫護等等的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2393.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2394.wav",
        "text": "討論就是希望有一個具體的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2395.wav",
        "text": "其實有提一個健全醫療發展特別條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2396.wav",
        "text": "希望保障0.95"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2397.wav",
        "text": "可是用的是特別的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2398.wav",
        "text": "另外用特別預算來打這個強心針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2399.wav",
        "text": "為期三年的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2400.wav",
        "text": "當時提出來的確你們行政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2401.wav",
        "text": "也有各種的問題甚至攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2402.wav",
        "text": "可是我想要講的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2403.wav",
        "text": "在野黨提出一些解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2404.wav",
        "text": "希望你們可以去看有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2405.wav",
        "text": "我們的行政院也提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2406.wav",
        "text": "衛福部也提出一個相應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2407.wav",
        "text": "可以解決現在問題的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2408.wav",
        "text": "可是看起來是並沒有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2409.wav",
        "text": "所以今天才會開到這個會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2410.wav",
        "text": "\n基本上我們想要講的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2411.wav",
        "text": "這些醫護醫療體系先倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2412.wav",
        "text": "最終其實倒楣的是人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2413.wav",
        "text": "啦所以在這裡希望我們衛福部到時候可以儘速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2414.wav",
        "text": "大家可以滿意怎麼樣在這個時間裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2415.wav",
        "text": "解救我們醫療體系面對的問題的一個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2416.wav",
        "text": "謝謝以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2417.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2418.wav",
        "text": "其實很希望今天衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2419.wav",
        "text": "可以提一個比較具體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2420.wav",
        "text": "你們怎麼來說服大家你們改善的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2421.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛部長的報告都是方向性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2422.wav",
        "text": "你會改善到什麼程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2423.wav",
        "text": "是方案還沒有準備好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2424.wav",
        "text": "還是還沒有拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2425.wav",
        "text": "已經有講到一些比較具體的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2426.wav",
        "text": "結果今天那些具體的東西又不見了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2427.wav",
        "text": "你們內部到底有沒有持續討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2428.wav",
        "text": "現在到什麼階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2429.wav",
        "text": "是不是部長可以回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2430.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛有多位委員一直都很想知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2431.wav",
        "text": "你們真正比較具體的想法要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2432.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2433.wav",
        "text": "謝謝各位委員先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2434.wav",
        "text": "真的我是非常的感動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2435.wav",
        "text": "大家為人民健康的努力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2436.wav",
        "text": "各位都知道幾個月前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2437.wav",
        "text": "我的位置是跟你們一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2438.wav",
        "text": "清泉委員當過全聯會的理事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2439.wav",
        "text": "他英俊的肖像還掛在牆壁上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2440.wav",
        "text": "我是他後面的我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2441.wav",
        "text": "因為表現不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2442.wav",
        "text": "所以到現在都還沒掛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2443.wav",
        "text": "表示我們都是一起為人民在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2444.wav",
        "text": "至少上任以來我們的行政部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2445.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有一天連半夜做夢都在想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2446.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2447.wav",
        "text": "和大家一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2448.wav",
        "text": "我們當然要考慮到整個國家的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2449.wav",
        "text": "如果醫療垮掉什麼都不用說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2450.wav",
        "text": "我想總統行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2451.wav",
        "text": "大家都這樣想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2452.wav",
        "text": "一直在研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2453.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要研究可行性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2454.wav",
        "text": "所以我是不是先拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2455.wav",
        "text": "因為你上次報告過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2456.wav",
        "text": "了今天是不是有最近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2457.wav",
        "text": "已經去跟行政院各部門溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2458.wav",
        "text": "比較具體的一些方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2459.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2460.wav",
        "text": "目前正在籌編明年度預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2461.wav",
        "text": "所以最後確實是多少金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2462.wav",
        "text": "大概還沒有辦法跟各位報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2463.wav",
        "text": "但是大概有幾個方向是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2464.wav",
        "text": "我們現在已經在進行中的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2465.wav",
        "text": "也跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2466.wav",
        "text": "要讓點值能夠提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2467.wav",
        "text": "我們所採取的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2468.wav",
        "text": "方法近期當然就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2469.wav",
        "text": "能夠得到適當的回饋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2470.wav",
        "text": "當然是第一個要務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2471.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在作法上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2472.wav",
        "text": "比較偏向公共衛生的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2473.wav",
        "text": "雖然這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2474.wav",
        "text": "它支出的項目變少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2475.wav",
        "text": "但是這些服務不減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2476.wav",
        "text": "改由公務預算來支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2477.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是第1項的策略"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2478.wav",
        "text": "因為這目前正在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2479.wav",
        "text": "跟行政院爭取中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2480.wav",
        "text": "如果編列下來之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2481.wav",
        "text": "我們就可以去計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2482.wav",
        "text": "對點值的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2483.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個當然還有一部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2484.wav",
        "text": "我們叫作癌症新藥基金的設立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2485.wav",
        "text": "還涉及到很多法規的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2486.wav",
        "text": "不過我們也積極地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2487.wav",
        "text": "跟行政院在爭取"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2488.wav",
        "text": "因為我們從今年的總額裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2489.wav",
        "text": "編有暫時性支付"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2490.wav",
        "text": "也就是對於未來癌藥基金"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2491.wav",
        "text": "確實有臨床上的急迫需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2492.wav",
        "text": "或者是財務衝擊上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2493.wav",
        "text": "尚有一些不確定性的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2494.wav",
        "text": "就是用總額的專款"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2495.wav",
        "text": "就是暫時性支付部分在支應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2496.wav",
        "text": "明年度變成是另外一筆"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2497.wav",
        "text": "由公務預算所支應的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2498.wav",
        "text": "這樣也會讓"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2499.wav",
        "text": "由公務預算來支應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2500.wav",
        "text": "助這個是在第二個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2501.wav",
        "text": "\n當然還有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2502.wav",
        "text": "對於偏鄉"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2503.wav",
        "text": "因為如果一致性的保障點值"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2504.wav",
        "text": "就會擔心影響到偏鄉的排擠"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2505.wav",
        "text": "也就是說你在資源豐沛的地方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2506.wav",
        "text": "一樣保障一點一元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2507.wav",
        "text": "偏鄉也是一點一元的結果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2508.wav",
        "text": "找尋醫護人員且經營的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2509.wav",
        "text": "也會更嚴峻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2510.wav",
        "text": "在下半年會先針對醫療資源不足地區"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2511.wav",
        "text": "所謂燈塔型醫院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2512.wav",
        "text": "包含它的適當成長的總額保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2513.wav",
        "text": "這個考量的不只是點值的保障"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2514.wav",
        "text": "因為在這些地區往往面臨的是人口外流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2515.wav",
        "text": "所以在減少的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2516.wav",
        "text": "服務量也會下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2517.wav",
        "text": "所以即使保障一定的總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2518.wav",
        "text": "他也不見得能夠經營下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2519.wav",
        "text": "所以我們用另外的保障方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2520.wav",
        "text": "在我們目前的規劃上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2521.wav",
        "text": "明年這個也會繼續擴大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2522.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們目前近期在進行中的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2523.wav",
        "text": "中長期的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2524.wav",
        "text": "全人照護分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2525.wav",
        "text": "我們都會陸陸續續地推出上路"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2526.wav",
        "text": "更具適切性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2527.wav",
        "text": "如果有需要我們再送完整的書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2528.wav",
        "text": "給委員會來參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2529.wav",
        "text": "所有的項目只要是我們可以做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2530.wav",
        "text": "一直研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2531.wav",
        "text": "然後要溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2532.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道政府是一個大機器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2533.wav",
        "text": "我們明年要什麼預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2534.wav",
        "text": "今年也要先寫好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2535.wav",
        "text": "呈上去後也什麼都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2536.wav",
        "text": "所以我們最近當然是把預期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2537.wav",
        "text": "我們明年要爭取到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2538.wav",
        "text": "清一清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2539.wav",
        "text": "這邊我們還要再請錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2540.wav",
        "text": "請錢時還要再跟國發會溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2541.wav",
        "text": "所以你說要叫我一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2542.wav",
        "text": "麼時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2543.wav",
        "text": "間站在政府的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2544.wav",
        "text": "也願意幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2545.wav",
        "text": "的政府也還是有一定的制度要去進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2546.wav",
        "text": "但是絕對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2547.wav",
        "text": "其實我每天都必須要去行政院開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2548.wav",
        "text": "一直在協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2549.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣把相關的事情做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2550.wav",
        "text": "像石署長提的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2551.wav",
        "text": "最關心這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2552.wav",
        "text": "議題的林次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2553.wav",
        "text": "關心很多急重症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2554.wav",
        "text": "也瞭解醫界的心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2555.wav",
        "text": "可不可以有機會給他講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2556.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2557.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2558.wav",
        "text": "還有在場所有大院的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2559.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都來自醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2560.wav",
        "text": "甚至我們以後也要回去醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2561.wav",
        "text": "所以如果整個系統做得不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2562.wav",
        "text": "我們以後再回去那個場域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2563.wav",
        "text": "也都會非常辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2564.wav",
        "text": "其實現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2565.wav",
        "text": "在跟我們反映現況的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2566.wav",
        "text": "都是我們自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2567.wav",
        "text": "在醫療界的弟兄姐妹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2568.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2569.wav",
        "text": "在一個穩健改革的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2570.wav",
        "text": "讓健保可以繼續延續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2571.wav",
        "text": "所以也非常感謝今天所有委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2572.wav",
        "text": "大家關心這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2573.wav",
        "text": "也跟大家報告幾件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2574.wav",
        "text": "像剛剛署長提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2575.wav",
        "text": "燈塔型醫院大概在上上個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2576.wav",
        "text": "我上任之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2577.wav",
        "text": "我就有跟地區醫院協會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2578.wav",
        "text": "先見了面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2579.wav",
        "text": "他們其實最擔心的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2580.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院即使是一點一元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2581.wav",
        "text": "你制度沒有給他處理好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2582.wav",
        "text": "他們跟旁邊的醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2583.wav",
        "text": "大醫院相沖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2584.wav",
        "text": "他們還是非常辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2585.wav",
        "text": "所以如何先保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2586.wav",
        "text": "在整個制度裡面不可或缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2587.wav",
        "text": "但它的服務必須要能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2588.wav",
        "text": "維持的這些醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2589.wav",
        "text": "這個我們在制度裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2590.wav",
        "text": "一定要非常小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2591.wav",
        "text": "\n因為剛剛說到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2592.wav",
        "text": "我們如果齊頭的平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2593.wav",
        "text": "都下去的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2594.wav",
        "text": "現行的東西沒有改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2595.wav",
        "text": "我們最擔心的事情是某些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2596.wav",
        "text": "怕會受到影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2597.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2598.wav",
        "text": "我們也正在積極檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2599.wav",
        "text": "來跟我開會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2600.wav",
        "text": "可能醫院的量還夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2601.wav",
        "text": "可是只要一出到南彰化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2602.wav",
        "text": "像這樣的燈塔型醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2603.wav",
        "text": "甚至包含臺北跟新北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2604.wav",
        "text": "燈塔型醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2605.wav",
        "text": "以致燈塔型醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2606.wav",
        "text": "再怎麼樣努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2607.wav",
        "text": "一直在虧損狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2608.wav",
        "text": "因為它真的是照顧我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2609.wav",
        "text": "醫療資源最缺乏的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2610.wav",
        "text": "所以整個制度上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2611.wav",
        "text": "我相信大家的目標都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2612.wav",
        "text": "讓醫療服務可以拿到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2613.wav",
        "text": "但是這個過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2614.wav",
        "text": "我想也不可能說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2615.wav",
        "text": "我們做一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2616.wav",
        "text": "就可以馬上完成\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2617.wav",
        "text": "其實像今年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2618.wav",
        "text": "健康台灣論壇也談過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2619.wav",
        "text": "很多科都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2620.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠確保他們的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2621.wav",
        "text": "比方說在沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2622.wav",
        "text": "完全平衡的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2623.wav",
        "text": "有的科就會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2624.wav",
        "text": "我們的很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2625.wav",
        "text": "一定要保障我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2626.wav",
        "text": "但是在這種狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2627.wav",
        "text": "我們如何能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2628.wav",
        "text": "從制度裡面去做一些處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2629.wav",
        "text": "其實過去都一直很支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2630.wav",
        "text": "我們做分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2631.wav",
        "text": "那時候小英政府上來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2632.wav",
        "text": "我們就開始推分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2633.wav",
        "text": "我們有一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2634.wav",
        "text": "也真的開始逐漸落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2635.wav",
        "text": "但是因為2020年遇到疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2636.wav",
        "text": "所以到2022年這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2637.wav",
        "text": "整個分級醫療制度的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2638.wav",
        "text": "比較沒有辦法落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2639.wav",
        "text": "疫情終於過了之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2640.wav",
        "text": "其實現在很多基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2641.wav",
        "text": "也都希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2642.wav",
        "text": "我們可以趕快再回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2643.wav",
        "text": "分級醫療制度裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2644.wav",
        "text": "其實也跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2645.wav",
        "text": "健保體質跟健保總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2646.wav",
        "text": "絕對跟分級醫療制度有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2647.wav",
        "text": "我們都講過非常多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2648.wav",
        "text": "他可以在地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2649.wav",
        "text": "或是在基層醫療控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2650.wav",
        "text": "病人就不用到大醫院去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2651.wav",
        "text": "可以減少很多大醫院的壅塞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2652.wav",
        "text": "\n也跟各位委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2653.wav",
        "text": "各位委員所關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2654.wav",
        "text": "的急診壅塞的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2655.wav",
        "text": "昨天下午我也跟醫事司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2656.wav",
        "text": "到相關的兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2657.wav",
        "text": "急診比較壅塞的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2658.wav",
        "text": "待床的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2659.wav",
        "text": "最壅塞待床通常都是禮拜一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2660.wav",
        "text": "因為禮拜六禮拜天有很多床"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2661.wav",
        "text": "是預定手術的人會先住進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2662.wav",
        "text": "禮拜一到禮拜五病人沒有去就診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2663.wav",
        "text": "他到禮拜六"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2664.wav",
        "text": "才要去醫院的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2665.wav",
        "text": "沒有門診了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2666.wav",
        "text": "結果這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2667.wav",
        "text": "這些病人反而就塞在急診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2668.wav",
        "text": "如何在制度裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2669.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2670.wav",
        "text": "都還有的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2671.wav",
        "text": "儘量在門診服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2672.wav",
        "text": "因為其實急診的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2673.wav",
        "text": "就會變成禮拜六禮拜天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2674.wav",
        "text": "有一些床是準備給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2675.wav",
        "text": "第二天禮拜一禮拜二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2676.wav",
        "text": "要開刀的這些民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2677.wav",
        "text": "原來預期的這些部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2678.wav",
        "text": "就會有這種塞床的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2679.wav",
        "text": "\n其實醫院也跟我們反映過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2680.wav",
        "text": "包含了很多急診的後送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2681.wav",
        "text": "昨天也跟他們承諾說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2682.wav",
        "text": "我們要有一些比較自動化的系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2683.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫自動化的系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2684.wav",
        "text": "就是區域聯防的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2685.wav",
        "text": "之前健保署也提過區域聯防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2686.wav",
        "text": "我們當然希望不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2687.wav",
        "text": "單純只有一家醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2688.wav",
        "text": "在承擔所有急重難症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2689.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在在制度裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2690.wav",
        "text": "急重難症的這些醫療機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2691.wav",
        "text": "救護車要把急重難症的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2692.wav",
        "text": "送到哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2693.wav",
        "text": "救護車能不能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2694.wav",
        "text": "送病人之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2695.wav",
        "text": "知道這間醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2696.wav",
        "text": "現在緊急狀況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2697.wav",
        "text": "他的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2698.wav",
        "text": "已經正在急救某些病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2699.wav",
        "text": "可能在周邊的其他醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2700.wav",
        "text": "類似的路程可以送得過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2701.wav",
        "text": "來減少壅塞在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2702.wav",
        "text": "同一個醫療院所內部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2703.wav",
        "text": "然後造成醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2704.wav",
        "text": "這些醫療人員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2705.wav",
        "text": "突然大量的出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2706.wav",
        "text": "儘量均衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2707.wav",
        "text": "我相信是我們希望能夠達到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2708.wav",
        "text": "在制度裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2709.wav",
        "text": "這個真的是衛福部的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2710.wav",
        "text": "我們要來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2711.wav",
        "text": "我們其實一直希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2712.wav",
        "text": "再更加強化家醫制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2713.wav",
        "text": "部長一直在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2714.wav",
        "text": "每一個民眾都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2715.wav",
        "text": "其實那個精神就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2716.wav",
        "text": "平常就有被醫生照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2717.wav",
        "text": "他才可以避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2718.wav",
        "text": "不用到急診去壅塞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2719.wav",
        "text": "疫情過後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2720.wav",
        "text": "去做的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2721.wav",
        "text": "\n在健保資源的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2722.wav",
        "text": "其實委員們也都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2723.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2724.wav",
        "text": "檢查的分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2725.wav",
        "text": "這一點我們之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2726.wav",
        "text": "也曾經提過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2727.wav",
        "text": "當然在對病人最小衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2728.wav",
        "text": "對病人的就醫習慣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2729.wav",
        "text": "最小的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2730.wav",
        "text": "我們慢慢來做這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2731.wav",
        "text": "檢查的分級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2732.wav",
        "text": "也感謝委員們的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2733.wav",
        "text": "之前我們讓檢查的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2734.wav",
        "text": "這些資料都有上傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2735.wav",
        "text": "讓很多醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2736.wav",
        "text": "也可以去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2737.wav",
        "text": "可以避免一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2738.wav",
        "text": "健保重複檢查的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2739.wav",
        "text": "我們會再持續把它優化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2740.wav",
        "text": "有一個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2741.wav",
        "text": "我們的商保補位健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2742.wav",
        "text": "我相信很多委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2743.wav",
        "text": "都知道尤其在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2744.wav",
        "text": "都是專業的委員都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2745.wav",
        "text": "過去很多商保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2746.wav",
        "text": "是疊加在健保上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2747.wav",
        "text": "健保有給付商保才給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2748.wav",
        "text": "可是這樣回過頭來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2749.wav",
        "text": "會變成民眾他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2750.wav",
        "text": "應該負擔的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2751.wav",
        "text": "所以商保跟健保之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2752.wav",
        "text": "如何互相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2753.wav",
        "text": "這個在節流的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2754.wav",
        "text": "接下來會特別繼續努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2755.wav",
        "text": "\n大家的立場都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2756.wav",
        "text": "我們其實就是朝點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2757.wav",
        "text": "值能夠友善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2758.wav",
        "text": "再來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2759.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛提到多元微調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2760.wav",
        "text": "就是公務預算的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2761.wav",
        "text": "讓公務預算的支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2762.wav",
        "text": "能夠把原來健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2763.wav",
        "text": "的部分回到健保的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2764.wav",
        "text": "這個我們正在跟行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2765.wav",
        "text": "政院做最大的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2766.wav",
        "text": "\n至於大家所關心的人力部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2767.wav",
        "text": "我相信在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2768.wav",
        "text": "大家也都曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2769.wav",
        "text": "其實不只是醫療界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2770.wav",
        "text": "很多產業界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2771.wav",
        "text": "和年輕人對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2772.wav",
        "text": "我們所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2773.wav",
        "text": "其實是跟我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2774.wav",
        "text": "這個年代不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2775.wav",
        "text": "所以也跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2776.wav",
        "text": "我們在這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2777.wav",
        "text": "跟醫療界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2778.wav",
        "text": "有做了一些討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2779.wav",
        "text": "很多第一線的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2780.wav",
        "text": "醫療人員跟我們講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2781.wav",
        "text": "就是現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2782.wav",
        "text": "這一些醫療人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2783.wav",
        "text": "尤其是護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2784.wav",
        "text": "還有很多年輕的主治醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2785.wav",
        "text": "他們不是不在這一行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2786.wav",
        "text": "而是他們轉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2787.wav",
        "text": "這一行裡面的其他科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2788.wav",
        "text": "以昨天我們聽到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2789.wav",
        "text": "因為診所的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2790.wav",
        "text": "收入可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2791.wav",
        "text": "跟在大醫院差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2792.wav",
        "text": "可是診所的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2793.wav",
        "text": "比較能ba"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2794.wav",
        "text": "以及接下來還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2795.wav",
        "text": "其他一些單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2796.wav",
        "text": "我們要處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2797.wav",
        "text": "包含如何讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2798.wav",
        "text": "留在醫院裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2799.wav",
        "text": "這些醫療人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2800.wav",
        "text": "可以減少他們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2801.wav",
        "text": "某些負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2802.wav",
        "text": "包含大家一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2803.wav",
        "text": "詬病的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2804.wav",
        "text": "評鑑文書項目等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2805.wav",
        "text": "引用一些新的科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2806.wav",
        "text": "護理人員跟醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2807.wav",
        "text": "在很多文字紀錄裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2808.wav",
        "text": "可以減少這些loading"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2809.wav",
        "text": "減少我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2810.wav",
        "text": "過去醫療管理上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2811.wav",
        "text": "對他們的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2812.wav",
        "text": "簡單來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2813.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員的立場都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2814.wav",
        "text": "減少一些沒有必要的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2815.wav",
        "text": "然後健全應該有的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2816.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2817.wav",
        "text": "我們先用重點式討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2818.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2819.wav",
        "text": "請問石署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2820.wav",
        "text": "你不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2821.wav",
        "text": "政府每年負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2822.wav",
        "text": "本保險之總經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2823.wav",
        "text": "不得少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2824.wav",
        "text": "經費扣除法定收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2825.wav",
        "text": "金額之36%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2826.wav",
        "text": "也就是扣除36%之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2827.wav",
        "text": "事實上是要由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2828.wav",
        "text": "主管機關編列撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2829.wav",
        "text": "這個我的解讀沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2830.wav",
        "text": "事實上本來就有這個法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2831.wav",
        "text": "針對不足的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2832.wav",
        "text": "本來中央就要撥補這個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2833.wav",
        "text": "等一下麻煩你說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2834.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2835.wav",
        "text": "有增加暫時性支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2836.wav",
        "text": "等於今年多了兩倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2837.wav",
        "text": "大概五六十億對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2838.wav",
        "text": "就是加起來五六十億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2839.wav",
        "text": "過去大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2840.wav",
        "text": "合計嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2841.wav",
        "text": "我們新藥新科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2842.wav",
        "text": "去年是30億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2843.wav",
        "text": "今年是70億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2844.wav",
        "text": "包含罕藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2845.wav",
        "text": "罕藥本身就不只70"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2846.wav",
        "text": "獨立的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2847.wav",
        "text": "我說的是醫材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2848.wav",
        "text": "就是新技術的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2849.wav",
        "text": "我瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2850.wav",
        "text": "但是因為今年增加兩倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2851.wav",
        "text": "署長整個審查方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2852.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2853.wav",
        "text": "還是跟以前一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2854.wav",
        "text": "非常嚴酷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2855.wav",
        "text": "動不動就是砍價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2856.wav",
        "text": "動不動就是議價議不成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2857.wav",
        "text": "不合理的那種cap"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2858.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道源頭的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2859.wav",
        "text": "可是即便你今年增加為兩倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2860.wav",
        "text": "total增加了新藥新科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2861.wav",
        "text": "但是整個審查方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2862.wav",
        "text": "沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2863.wav",
        "text": "如果你有新的來源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2864.wav",
        "text": "其實有時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2865.wav",
        "text": "或是你的屬下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2866.wav",
        "text": "稍微說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2867.wav",
        "text": "要reflect這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2868.wav",
        "text": "我上次去開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2869.wav",
        "text": "就沒有人知道這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2870.wav",
        "text": "也先解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2871.wav",
        "text": "為什麼西醫基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2872.wav",
        "text": "從107年到113年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2873.wav",
        "text": "雖然說經過疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2874.wav",
        "text": "我們可以瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2875.wav",
        "text": "那個點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2876.wav",
        "text": "不是能夠具有參考性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2877.wav",
        "text": "但為什麼113年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2878.wav",
        "text": "的點值降得比107年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2879.wav",
        "text": "還多很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2880.wav",
        "text": "而且這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2881.wav",
        "text": "攤扣都已經處理掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2882.wav",
        "text": "拜託等一下署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2883.wav",
        "text": "也跟我們說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2884.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會是這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2885.wav",
        "text": "署長您上次告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2886.wav",
        "text": "門診65%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2887.wav",
        "text": "當然我們不否認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2888.wav",
        "text": "現在很多醫療進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2889.wav",
        "text": "可能可以在門診治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2890.wav",
        "text": "這個你當然也要評估進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2891.wav",
        "text": "門診裡面有很多癌症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2892.wav",
        "text": "癌藥等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2893.wav",
        "text": "標靶療法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2894.wav",
        "text": "也許相對費用比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2895.wav",
        "text": "這個你都可以再去做分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2896.wav",
        "text": "麼大的門診量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2897.wav",
        "text": "醫療分級現在根本就完全死掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2898.wav",
        "text": "哪來的醫療分級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2899.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院從600家健保開辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2900.wav",
        "text": "到現在剩300家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2901.wav",
        "text": "根本就腰斬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2902.wav",
        "text": "這個根本沒有醫療分級可言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2903.wav",
        "text": "啊醫學中心都還在增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2904.wav",
        "text": "整個醫院評鑑是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2905.wav",
        "text": "部長你在管的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2906.wav",
        "text": "包括整個醫事司的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2907.wav",
        "text": "醫策會委辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2908.wav",
        "text": "我要求以後醫院評鑑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2909.wav",
        "text": "不是只公布誰合格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2910.wav",
        "text": "我們要分數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2911.wav",
        "text": "我們也要整個衝擊的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2912.wav",
        "text": "就是說做完一次醫院評鑑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2913.wav",
        "text": "如果今年增加了三家醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2914.wav",
        "text": "者是地區醫院又少了等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2915.wav",
        "text": "全面性的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2916.wav",
        "text": "不是那麼簡單的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2917.wav",
        "text": "做完以後大家都在猜測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2918.wav",
        "text": "我上了或沒上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2919.wav",
        "text": "這個東西不要再來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2920.wav",
        "text": "還有一條法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2921.wav",
        "text": "不然你有本事就把它改掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2922.wav",
        "text": "你放了三十年都沒有動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2923.wav",
        "text": "當然署長我不是在怪你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2924.wav",
        "text": "指示藥不給付的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2925.wav",
        "text": "大家都不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2926.wav",
        "text": "今天很多敏感性的問題都不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2927.wav",
        "text": "只要病人少一次就醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2928.wav",
        "text": "在社區藥局做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2929.wav",
        "text": "前任署長和前前任署長都告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2930.wav",
        "text": "只要少一次就醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2931.wav",
        "text": "就少掉三百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2932.wav",
        "text": "但是大家都避談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2933.wav",
        "text": "不要去談這個真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2934.wav",
        "text": "結果法又在那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2935.wav",
        "text": "所以這件事還是要去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2936.wav",
        "text": "次長還是署長有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2937.wav",
        "text": "現在是7.2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2938.wav",
        "text": "7.2這個數字有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2939.wav",
        "text": "那個NHE是有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2940.wav",
        "text": "我們明明就是6.1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2941.wav",
        "text": "薛部長他後來把長照加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2942.wav",
        "text": "變成7.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2943.wav",
        "text": "即使是7.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2944.wav",
        "text": "這是以前大家都看不太起的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2945.wav",
        "text": "我們6.1的時候它是8"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2946.wav",
        "text": "我們7.27.5的時候它是9.8"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2947.wav",
        "text": "健康投資的不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2948.wav",
        "text": "一直都是存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2949.wav",
        "text": "\n而且分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2950.wav",
        "text": "從醫院評鑑看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2951.wav",
        "text": "根本逆著走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2952.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心越來越大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2953.wav",
        "text": "大家一直蓋醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2954.wav",
        "text": "病床越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2955.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2956.wav",
        "text": "就要面對這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2957.wav",
        "text": "賺錢的醫院還是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2958.wav",
        "text": "但是辛苦的醫院還是更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2959.wav",
        "text": "這個基本上要去調一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2960.wav",
        "text": "在醫院評鑑這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2961.wav",
        "text": "不是一時能夠調整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2962.wav",
        "text": "但是請不要再犯去年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2963.wav",
        "text": "而且是在北區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2964.wav",
        "text": "最不缺醫療資源的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2965.wav",
        "text": "本來200萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2966.wav",
        "text": "要有一家醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2967.wav",
        "text": "現在已經爆得一塌糊塗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2968.wav",
        "text": "我質詢薛部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2969.wav",
        "text": "前面的人也沒有這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2970.wav",
        "text": "這什麼話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2971.wav",
        "text": "別人沒遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2972.wav",
        "text": "我就跟著不遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2973.wav",
        "text": "而且加碼下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2974.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣子談問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2975.wav",
        "text": "\n署長我看等一下能不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2976.wav",
        "text": "為什麼西醫基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2977.wav",
        "text": "會比當時疫情之前猛掉那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2978.wav",
        "text": "當然又回到浮動點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2979.wav",
        "text": "跟平均點值的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2980.wav",
        "text": "以後是不是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2981.wav",
        "text": "讓我們知道真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2982.wav",
        "text": "其實委員們更能夠幫你去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2983.wav",
        "text": "或是處理這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2984.wav",
        "text": "也請部長您多看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2985.wav",
        "text": "我現在還背得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2986.wav",
        "text": "健保開辦的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2987.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心12家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2988.wav",
        "text": "區域醫院48家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2989.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院是615家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2990.wav",
        "text": "但是25年後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2991.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心26家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2992.wav",
        "text": "區域醫院84家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2993.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院剩315家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2994.wav",
        "text": "請你看看那個圖形會長成什麼樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2995.wav",
        "text": "所以那個分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2996.wav",
        "text": "大家都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2997.wav",
        "text": "三位都談到分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2998.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/2999.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的分級醫療已經崩潰了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3000.wav",
        "text": "你要不要救"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3001.wav",
        "text": "你不救醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3002.wav",
        "text": "難道急難重症這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3003.wav",
        "text": "就是要大的醫院來承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3004.wav",
        "text": "所以你的問題永遠存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3005.wav",
        "text": "\n我提到藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3006.wav",
        "text": "大家都會躲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3007.wav",
        "text": "每個人都在躲藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3008.wav",
        "text": "藥價差你要提高醫療點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3009.wav",
        "text": "因為你沒有給他合理的支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3010.wav",
        "text": "他們不得不去使用藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3011.wav",
        "text": "邱部長我可以問你嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3012.wav",
        "text": "藥價差現在多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3013.wav",
        "text": "我跟你說6"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3014.wav",
        "text": "600億跑不掉啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3015.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3016.wav",
        "text": "你只要把點值弄高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3017.wav",
        "text": "就很靠近了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3018.wav",
        "text": "看小病的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3019.wav",
        "text": "而且你法在那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3020.wav",
        "text": "那邊就少307十幾億隨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3021.wav",
        "text": "隨便也100億這樣就夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3022.wav",
        "text": "所以很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3023.wav",
        "text": "你一定有個優先順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3024.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3025.wav",
        "text": "然後你做的時候要有個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3026.wav",
        "text": "沒有人會期待30年的問題一夕解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3027.wav",
        "text": "沒有人會這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3028.wav",
        "text": "但是我剛剛點的那些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3029.wav",
        "text": "就一直在嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3030.wav",
        "text": "署長你多擔待一點啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3031.wav",
        "text": "幫我們解釋一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3032.wav",
        "text": "為什麼點值的落差會這麼大呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3033.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳昭姿委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3034.wav",
        "text": "因為您提了好多個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3035.wav",
        "text": "一個是36%健保法第3條的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3036.wav",
        "text": "這個36%是這樣子計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3037.wav",
        "text": "的就是先以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3038.wav",
        "text": "自己所付的這些保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3039.wav",
        "text": "它的占率就等於是64"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3040.wav",
        "text": "回推成整個大的健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3041.wav",
        "text": "應該有多少收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3042.wav",
        "text": "然後再扣除掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3043.wav",
        "text": "政府已經依法支出的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3044.wav",
        "text": "在111年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3045.wav",
        "text": "補了883億到健保基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3046.wav",
        "text": "112年再補了937億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3047.wav",
        "text": "因為那個補充保費比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3048.wav",
        "text": "推升整個大餅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3049.wav",
        "text": "結算之後再補進來就提升了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3050.wav",
        "text": "就是937億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3051.wav",
        "text": "所以每年都是這樣計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3052.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛部長提到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3053.wav",
        "text": "未來我們為了讓健保的餅更大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3054.wav",
        "text": "這裡所謂的36%政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3055.wav",
        "text": "應負擔的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3056.wav",
        "text": "只採計健保法裡面的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3057.wav",
        "text": "而不要把其他社福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3058.wav",
        "text": "政府負擔的部分也算進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3059.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是剛剛講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3060.wav",
        "text": "過去每年行政院都會在結算之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3061.wav",
        "text": "再另外撥入補足36%的不足數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3062.wav",
        "text": "36%的採計基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3063.wav",
        "text": "以在健保法裡面規定為限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3064.wav",
        "text": "避免受到其他法律的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3065.wav",
        "text": "政府36%的計算基礎下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3066.wav",
        "text": "署長這個部分因為連健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3067.wav",
        "text": "會很多成員的計算認知都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3068.wav",
        "text": "112年還是113年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3069.wav",
        "text": "因為113年才第一季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3070.wav",
        "text": "過去出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3071.wav",
        "text": "啦那112年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3072.wav",
        "text": "的108年之所以下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3073.wav",
        "text": "我們看起來大概有兩個主因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3074.wav",
        "text": "服務量的增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3075.wav",
        "text": "服務量增加就是有疫情的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3076.wav",
        "text": "這些類流感包含COVID"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3077.wav",
        "text": "還有流感等等這些類流感病人的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3078.wav",
        "text": "確實是增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3079.wav",
        "text": "所以一個是人次所影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3080.wav",
        "text": "單價的影響就是來自於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3081.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛提的分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3082.wav",
        "text": "其實過去在基層這些診所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3083.wav",
        "text": "開出的慢性處方簽的比率是增加的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3084.wav",
        "text": "因為過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3085.wav",
        "text": "多數不是慢性處方箋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3086.wav",
        "text": "我們用日劑藥費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3087.wav",
        "text": "但是如果你是慢性處方箋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3088.wav",
        "text": "那就是每一個要逐筆申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3089.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛提到點值會下降有兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3090.wav",
        "text": "一個是因為受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3091.wav",
        "text": "COVID流感影響的人次的增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3092.wav",
        "text": "這一些一般是用日劑藥費而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3093.wav",
        "text": "這是量的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3094.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個是單價的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3095.wav",
        "text": "也就是本來在醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3096.wav",
        "text": "拿慢性處方箋的轉移到診所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3097.wav",
        "text": "這個大概從疫情當中就開始移動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3098.wav",
        "text": "讓在基層診所看慢性病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3099.wav",
        "text": "拿慢性處方箋的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3100.wav",
        "text": "已經成長超過40"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3101.wav",
        "text": "我記得是42%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3102.wav",
        "text": "了所以從過去就成長上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3103.wav",
        "text": "這個會造成藥費的增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3104.wav",
        "text": "在基層診所藥費增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3105.wav",
        "text": "就會造成點值的下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3106.wav",
        "text": "因為藥費是1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3107.wav",
        "text": "所以會造成浮動點值的下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3108.wav",
        "text": "做總額適度的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3109.wav",
        "text": "同時要做分配的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3110.wav",
        "text": "要把這個因素一併考慮進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3111.wav",
        "text": "這個也是分級醫療的成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3112.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得這是一個正向的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3113.wav",
        "text": "至於說量的不預期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3114.wav",
        "text": "就是流感或者傳染病的不預期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3115.wav",
        "text": "另外也有一個叫做非預期風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3116.wav",
        "text": "或非預期政策調整的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3117.wav",
        "text": "像去年我們就補入了近90億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3118.wav",
        "text": "因為受到COVID影響的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3119.wav",
        "text": "在點值的部分大概是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3120.wav",
        "text": "在上半年其實就已經多核准了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3121.wav",
        "text": "我們也在檢討擴充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3122.wav",
        "text": "我們一方面也在檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3123.wav",
        "text": "所以整個擴充給付條件有17個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3124.wav",
        "text": "新藥14個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3125.wav",
        "text": "上半年到5月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3126.wav",
        "text": "也已經三十幾項了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3127.wav",
        "text": "我們也是在努力加快這個速度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3128.wav",
        "text": "我們把這個流程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3129.wav",
        "text": "再做一個調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3130.wav",
        "text": "我們會朝這個方向來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3131.wav",
        "text": "我瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3132.wav",
        "text": "都說沒有錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3133.wav",
        "text": "委員都不是專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3134.wav",
        "text": "我請他們要當專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3135.wav",
        "text": "不要再當賺錢的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3136.wav",
        "text": "是不是有價值該給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3137.wav",
        "text": "剩下的問題老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3138.wav",
        "text": "應該是署或院或部會去煩惱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3139.wav",
        "text": "我們的給付儘量跟指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3140.wav",
        "text": "就是臨床指引或國際的指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3141.wav",
        "text": "讓它儘量的契合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3142.wav",
        "text": "當然一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3143.wav",
        "text": "恐怕也都是不夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3144.wav",
        "text": "占率確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3145.wav",
        "text": "從過去這十年看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3146.wav",
        "text": "大概透析的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3147.wav",
        "text": "是占支出的5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3148.wav",
        "text": "這個已經改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3149.wav",
        "text": "就是要進入洗腎的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3150.wav",
        "text": "其實已經開始微幅下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3151.wav",
        "text": "也已經開始反轉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3152.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3153.wav",
        "text": "在透析支出的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3154.wav",
        "text": "已經有一點點控制住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3155.wav",
        "text": "現在大概占5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3156.wav",
        "text": "門診的部分是成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3157.wav",
        "text": "大概是30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3158.wav",
        "text": "門診的部分是65%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3159.wav",
        "text": "署長你覺得合理應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3160.wav",
        "text": "門診的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3161.wav",
        "text": "我們也在分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3162.wav",
        "text": "這個成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3163.wav",
        "text": "我們現在看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3164.wav",
        "text": "跟疫情前來比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3165.wav",
        "text": "大醫院這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3166.wav",
        "text": "的門診是成長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3167.wav",
        "text": "這也就是我們為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3168.wav",
        "text": "希望委員給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3169.wav",
        "text": "因為疫情當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3170.wav",
        "text": "先停下來的分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3171.wav",
        "text": "降載的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3172.wav",
        "text": "我們要再做一些努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3173.wav",
        "text": "不然現在一宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3174.wav",
        "text": "一點一元的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3175.wav",
        "text": "我們就更難出手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3176.wav",
        "text": "就沒有辦法去做有效的管控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3177.wav",
        "text": "\n我們會去分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3178.wav",
        "text": "我們的分析裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3179.wav",
        "text": "門診的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3180.wav",
        "text": "主要可以分兩塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3181.wav",
        "text": "一個是癌症的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3182.wav",
        "text": "像成長最多的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3183.wav",
        "text": "肺癌乳癌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3184.wav",
        "text": "這些剛好跟我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3185.wav",
        "text": "大概相似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3186.wav",
        "text": "他們當然多數會在大醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3187.wav",
        "text": "但是另外有一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3188.wav",
        "text": "是屬於慢性病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3189.wav",
        "text": "像糖尿病高血壓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3190.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們目前正在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3191.wav",
        "text": "風險分級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3192.wav",
        "text": "因為有一些低風險的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3193.wav",
        "text": "確實他應該要往下轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3194.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在正在擬定策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3195.wav",
        "text": "在跟部長跟次長報告完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3196.wav",
        "text": "我們會開始來啟動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3197.wav",
        "text": "門診減量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3198.wav",
        "text": "針對大醫院的分級醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3199.wav",
        "text": "所以這個大概是在門診的戰力\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3200.wav",
        "text": "當然在健保法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3201.wav",
        "text": "對於OTC也就是所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3202.wav",
        "text": "指示用藥是不給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3203.wav",
        "text": "但是在健保開辦的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3204.wav",
        "text": "那個故事我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3205.wav",
        "text": "是30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3206.wav",
        "text": "但是也已經檢討到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3207.wav",
        "text": "剩下大概800項左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3208.wav",
        "text": "之前就慢慢減下來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3209.wav",
        "text": "大概是20億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3210.wav",
        "text": "但是就發現有一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3211.wav",
        "text": "人工淚液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3212.wav",
        "text": "就是一個最明顯的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3213.wav",
        "text": "因為人工淚液在健保收載裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3214.wav",
        "text": "有指示用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3215.wav",
        "text": "也有處方藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3216.wav",
        "text": "指示用藥比較便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3217.wav",
        "text": "處方藥比較貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3218.wav",
        "text": "所以我們把人工淚液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3219.wav",
        "text": "裡做不給付之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3220.wav",
        "text": "結果我們的處方用藥大幅成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3221.wav",
        "text": "才會造成人工淚液的缺貨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3222.wav",
        "text": "但是部長我會質詢食藥署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3223.wav",
        "text": "整個藥品分級是有問題的對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3224.wav",
        "text": "所以反而造成健保的支出增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3225.wav",
        "text": "我們得不償失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3226.wav",
        "text": "健保可以省錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3227.wav",
        "text": "結果沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3228.wav",
        "text": "支出反而增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3229.wav",
        "text": "因為還有另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3230.wav",
        "text": "是屬於處方用藥的人工淚液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3231.wav",
        "text": "液\n換言之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3232.wav",
        "text": "如果我們沒有對整個藥品分類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3233.wav",
        "text": "同時一個類似的成分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3234.wav",
        "text": "有處方藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3235.wav",
        "text": "我們單純地把指示用藥排除之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3236.wav",
        "text": "反而造成缺藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3237.wav",
        "text": "跟我們健保的支出增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3238.wav",
        "text": "署長我一直很努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3239.wav",
        "text": "我擔任召集人5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3240.wav",
        "text": "所以部長你要準備好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3241.wav",
        "text": "因為健保是保住重病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3242.wav",
        "text": "健保基本上是照顧重病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3243.wav",
        "text": "而小問題小病症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3244.wav",
        "text": "事實上是要自己處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3245.wav",
        "text": "的如果你們一直迴避這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3246.wav",
        "text": "永遠沒有辦法解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3247.wav",
        "text": "今天的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3248.wav",
        "text": "我們認同應該把OTC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3249.wav",
        "text": "回歸到健保法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3250.wav",
        "text": "哪一些OTC先優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3251.wav",
        "text": "但有一些要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3252.wav",
        "text": "像有些救命的藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3253.wav",
        "text": "也是OTC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3254.wav",
        "text": "比如一些小孩子的用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3255.wav",
        "text": "或者是因為他不容易在外面買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3256.wav",
        "text": "你讓他去藥局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3257.wav",
        "text": "這個我們要將其保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3258.wav",
        "text": "在健保給付裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3259.wav",
        "text": "像活性碳是急救藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3260.wav",
        "text": "可是解毒的解毒劑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3261.wav",
        "text": "這個我們也必須在健保給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3262.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會去檢討哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3263.wav",
        "text": "還是應該留著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3264.wav",
        "text": "替代效果出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3265.wav",
        "text": "變成我們要支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3266.wav",
        "text": "的評估部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3267.wav",
        "text": "就不用在委員會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3268.wav",
        "text": "我們今天主要是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3269.wav",
        "text": "法條部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3270.wav",
        "text": "做大方向的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3271.wav",
        "text": "我們已經召開第一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3272.wav",
        "text": "今天是第二次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3273.wav",
        "text": "在委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3274.wav",
        "text": "我們也召開公聽會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3275.wav",
        "text": "也有專報也有質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3276.wav",
        "text": "其實已經做過非常多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3277.wav",
        "text": "意見交換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3278.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3279.wav",
        "text": "跟委員會保留的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3280.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3281.wav",
        "text": "其實已經非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3282.wav",
        "text": "如果委員沒有意見的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3283.wav",
        "text": "我還是要表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3284.wav",
        "text": "政府對醫界的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3285.wav",
        "text": "衛福部也願意提出承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3286.wav",
        "text": "要保障醫界的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3287.wav",
        "text": "一定盡最大的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3288.wav",
        "text": "像剛才說的那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3289.wav",
        "text": "由我們來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3290.wav",
        "text": "不用去要求什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3291.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會採取多元的微調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3292.wav",
        "text": "部分應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3293.wav",
        "text": "由政府公務預算的總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3294.wav",
        "text": "這個我們一定用最快的速度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3295.wav",
        "text": "當然這個要一個一個清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3296.wav",
        "text": "國健署在做某一個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3297.wav",
        "text": "它原來用健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3298.wav",
        "text": "它還是用這樣在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3299.wav",
        "text": "我們如果沒有去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3300.wav",
        "text": "爭取經費或怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3301.wav",
        "text": "真的都要有一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3302.wav",
        "text": "可以馬上來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3303.wav",
        "text": "對於護理人力政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3304.wav",
        "text": "整備12項策略計畫這部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3305.wav",
        "text": "我們真的也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3306.wav",
        "text": "盡力去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3307.wav",
        "text": "此外還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3308.wav",
        "text": "很大的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3309.wav",
        "text": "健康臺灣深耕計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3310.wav",
        "text": "很多醫療模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3311.wav",
        "text": "還是要靠大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3312.wav",
        "text": "各位有智慧的前輩們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3313.wav",
        "text": "願意去思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3314.wav",
        "text": "你用你的體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3315.wav",
        "text": "你用你的想法去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3316.wav",
        "text": "做人才的培育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3317.wav",
        "text": "以相關的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3318.wav",
        "text": "社會責任來這樣子做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3319.wav",
        "text": "這個也在爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3320.wav",
        "text": "可能到5年500億的程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3321.wav",
        "text": "還是要代表衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3322.wav",
        "text": "誠懇地期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3323.wav",
        "text": "能不能給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3324.wav",
        "text": "把這些事情做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3325.wav",
        "text": "以後我們再來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3326.wav",
        "text": "如果做了一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3327.wav",
        "text": "後譬如做了一年以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3328.wav",
        "text": "還是必須要用法來做什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3329.wav",
        "text": "把這個法案訂定下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3330.wav",
        "text": "也請大院委員來裁決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3331.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3332.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3333.wav",
        "text": "\n還要補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3334.wav",
        "text": "主席根據剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3335.wav",
        "text": "我們所做的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3336.wav",
        "text": "如果有下一次的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3337.wav",
        "text": "或者是更具體的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3338.wav",
        "text": "我們再來做往上的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3339.wav",
        "text": "不知道這樣的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3340.wav",
        "text": "有沒有機會讓主席再多瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3341.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3342.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得我們討論很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3343.wav",
        "text": "真的今天也協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3344.wav",
        "text": "所以我想應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3345.wav",
        "text": "在院會由韓院長來主持啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3346.wav",
        "text": "再來做一次協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3347.wav",
        "text": "看結論如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3348.wav",
        "text": "再做處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3349.wav",
        "text": "說10次也是這些話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3350.wav",
        "text": "我想召委的能力也有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3351.wav",
        "text": "我們已經召開兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3352.wav",
        "text": "還沒有辦法有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3353.wav",
        "text": "所以我們應該要敦請韓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3354.wav",
        "text": "由院會層級再來召集協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3355.wav",
        "text": "或許會有一些更圓滿的答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3356.wav",
        "text": "因為那個條文沒有決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3357.wav",
        "text": "就沒有辦法處理都要一併保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3358.wav",
        "text": "到院會協商的時候再處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3359.wav",
        "text": "我支持你們要1.2的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3360.wav",
        "text": "楊曜版本1.2再修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3361.wav",
        "text": "這樣部長頭很痛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3362.wav",
        "text": "因為時間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3363.wav",
        "text": "我想今天的條文跟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3364.wav",
        "text": "保留的附帶決議3項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3365.wav",
        "text": "\n今天協商會議到此結束散會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16023/3366.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/0.wav",
        "text": "案\n現在進行協商司法及法制交通兩委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1.wav",
        "text": "併案審查委員傅崐萁等33人擬具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2.wav",
        "text": "國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第4條條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/3.wav",
        "text": "等4案及院會逕付二讀委員賴士葆等24人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/4.wav",
        "text": "委員李彥秀等23人提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/5.wav",
        "text": "本案審查會於5月1日審查完竣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/6.wav",
        "text": "審查第4條（含修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/7.wav",
        "text": "）第8條及第10條均保留送院會處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/8.wav",
        "text": "並決議院會討論前交由黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/9.wav",
        "text": "另院會第12次會議將委員賴士葆等24人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/10.wav",
        "text": "第14次會議再將委員李彥秀等23人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/11.wav",
        "text": "提案逕付二讀與相關提案併案協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/12.wav",
        "text": "以上共計6案於今日併案進行協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/13.wav",
        "text": "\n協商時請參閱協商條文對照表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/14.wav",
        "text": "審查報告及逕付二讀提案關係文書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/15.wav",
        "text": "與會委員如有修正動議或機關有建議內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/16.wav",
        "text": "請提出書面印發現場進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/17.wav",
        "text": "\n現在開始逐條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/18.wav",
        "text": "第4條審查會保留委員提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/19.wav",
        "text": "及修正動議共6個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/20.wav",
        "text": "另院會交付逕付二讀併案協商委員提案兩個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/21.wav",
        "text": "\n現在開始協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/22.wav",
        "text": "請各黨團代表表示意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/23.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委還有我們在場各黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/24.wav",
        "text": "我們今天黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/25.wav",
        "text": "我想我還是不厭其煩地再提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/26.wav",
        "text": "請各位去看到第54頁傅崐萁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/27.wav",
        "text": "傅崐萁等33人提案這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/28.wav",
        "text": "提名同意程序上審查會通過的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/29.wav",
        "text": "對於行政院院長無絕對拘束力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/30.wav",
        "text": "應已符合大法官釋字第613號解釋文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/31.wav",
        "text": "其實我光看這個提案的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/32.wav",
        "text": "就覺得怪怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/33.wav",
        "text": "嘛你如果真的認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/34.wav",
        "text": "這沒有侵害到行政權的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/35.wav",
        "text": "我相信在整個立法理由裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/36.wav",
        "text": "不會去講審查會通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/37.wav",
        "text": "這些名單對行政院長沒有拘束力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/38.wav",
        "text": "也符合大法官釋字第613"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/39.wav",
        "text": "號大法官釋字第613號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/40.wav",
        "text": "通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/41.wav",
        "text": "它到底是不是屬於行政機關的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/42.wav",
        "text": "如果大家肯認它是屬於行政的一環的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/43.wav",
        "text": "那到底行政院對於通傳會委員在人事決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/44.wav",
        "text": "是不是夠完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/45.wav",
        "text": "基於權力分立這樣的一個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/46.wav",
        "text": "立法院當然可以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/47.wav",
        "text": "對整個行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/48.wav",
        "text": "針對行政院送過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/49.wav",
        "text": "的施予一定的限制來加以制衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/50.wav",
        "text": "這個本席可以贊同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/51.wav",
        "text": "但是完全把它給實質剝奪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/52.wav",
        "text": "或者說進而把它給取代的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/53.wav",
        "text": "這個我想可能會有很大的一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/54.wav",
        "text": "\n我看整個傅崐萁傅總召"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/55.wav",
        "text": "大家可能也去看到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/56.wav",
        "text": "沒有來不然我很想問問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/57.wav",
        "text": "為什麼說我們審查會通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/58.wav",
        "text": "對於行政院長沒有拘束力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/59.wav",
        "text": "應該是符合這邏輯不通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/60.wav",
        "text": "我看其實是有一點心虛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/61.wav",
        "text": "到底要不要保留給行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/62.wav",
        "text": "對獨立機關重要人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/63.wav",
        "text": "唯一的一個決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/64.wav",
        "text": "施予它什麼樣的一個制衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/65.wav",
        "text": "設什麼樣的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/66.wav",
        "text": "本席倒沒有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/67.wav",
        "text": "但完全去把它剝奪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/68.wav",
        "text": "這個會不會剝奪到行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/69.wav",
        "text": "或者只剩下形式上提名跟任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/70.wav",
        "text": "簡單來講以前都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/71.wav",
        "text": "是政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/72.wav",
        "text": "那現在很多委員的版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/73.wav",
        "text": "提名歸行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/74.wav",
        "text": "但是都是給足了審查委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/75.wav",
        "text": "這個跟過去大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/76.wav",
        "text": "人事決定權的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/77.wav",
        "text": "實質去剝奪沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/78.wav",
        "text": "兩樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/79.wav",
        "text": "給大家回憶一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/80.wav",
        "text": "2006年宣告違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/81.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個設計就是在2005年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/82.wav",
        "text": "到底發生什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/83.wav",
        "text": "當初審查委員是按照政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/84.wav",
        "text": "國民黨4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/85.wav",
        "text": "民進黨4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/86.wav",
        "text": "審查NCC的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/87.wav",
        "text": "NCC的委員是國民黨6"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/88.wav",
        "text": "民進黨6"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/89.wav",
        "text": "親民黨2台聯1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/90.wav",
        "text": "行政院本身有3人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/91.wav",
        "text": "就變成要達到審查委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/92.wav",
        "text": "至少7位同意結果投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/93.wav",
        "text": "投了3輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/94.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會投了3輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/95.wav",
        "text": "原因就很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/96.wav",
        "text": "就是說國民黨跟親民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/97.wav",
        "text": "只有民進黨4位審查委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/98.wav",
        "text": "就不分黨派投完這13票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/99.wav",
        "text": "第一輪投出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/100.wav",
        "text": "只有9位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/101.wav",
        "text": "那意思其實很明顯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/102.wav",
        "text": "這個就是涉及到政黨的鬥爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/103.wav",
        "text": "我把審查委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/104.wav",
        "text": "過去全部都是一時之選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/105.wav",
        "text": "像邵玉銘博士王鍾渝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/106.wav",
        "text": "中鋼董事長薛香川國科會副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/107.wav",
        "text": "蔡勳雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/108.wav",
        "text": "國政基金會執行長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/109.wav",
        "text": "可是碰到投票的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/110.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都乖乖現形了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/111.wav",
        "text": "到了第二輪投票的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/112.wav",
        "text": "審查委員也只有民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/113.wav",
        "text": "投完後面那4票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/114.wav",
        "text": "選出了9位而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/115.wav",
        "text": "國民黨親民黨還是沒有完整去投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/116.wav",
        "text": "那最後選出的3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/117.wav",
        "text": "直到第3輪的時候才投完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/118.wav",
        "text": "我的意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/119.wav",
        "text": "嚴格審查第3輪投完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/120.wav",
        "text": "不是不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/121.wav",
        "text": "大家自己的一個立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/122.wav",
        "text": "審查完被外界批評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/123.wav",
        "text": "說這個審查不公正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/124.wav",
        "text": "為什麼社會賢達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/125.wav",
        "text": "都讓人家懷疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/126.wav",
        "text": "我記得後來被選出來的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/127.wav",
        "text": "系主任呂教授他說深深感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/128.wav",
        "text": "對委員造成黨派陰影與被愚弄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/129.wav",
        "text": "所以拒絕被提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/130.wav",
        "text": "電信學者林一平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/131.wav",
        "text": "陳銘憲傳播學者翁秀琪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/132.wav",
        "text": "大家接著全部都請辭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/133.wav",
        "text": "最後實際上就任的只有9位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/134.wav",
        "text": "\n我要提出這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/135.wav",
        "text": "給大家做回憶的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/136.wav",
        "text": "NCC淪為黨派干預的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/137.wav",
        "text": "原本需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/138.wav",
        "text": "各個領域裡面的專長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/139.wav",
        "text": "或者實務背景的審查要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/140.wav",
        "text": "政黨一介入其實到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/141.wav",
        "text": "可能把這些專長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/142.wav",
        "text": "都不管了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/143.wav",
        "text": "立法院在行使同意權的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/144.wav",
        "text": "管你有什麼專長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/145.wav",
        "text": "大家的政黨有自己的一個看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/146.wav",
        "text": "所以連當時沒有擔任主委的蘇永欽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/147.wav",
        "text": "就是國民黨所推薦的蘇教授"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/148.wav",
        "text": "他是怎麼講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/149.wav",
        "text": "他說電信學者請辭會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/150.wav",
        "text": "嚴重的後果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/151.wav",
        "text": "因為NCC委員組成有傳播法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/152.wav",
        "text": "電信經濟等領域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/153.wav",
        "text": "4條腿缺一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/154.wav",
        "text": "就不得動彈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/155.wav",
        "text": "所以我要把這些再重新讓大家來做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/156.wav",
        "text": "回顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/157.wav",
        "text": "我期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/158.wav",
        "text": "大家可以再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/159.wav",
        "text": "好好地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/160.wav",
        "text": "仔細來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/161.wav",
        "text": "看一下否則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/162.wav",
        "text": "真的還是會步上上一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/163.wav",
        "text": "2006年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/164.wav",
        "text": "大法官憲法法庭的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/165.wav",
        "text": "以上提供各黨派的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/166.wav",
        "text": "委員做一個參考謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/167.wav",
        "text": "謝謝莊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/168.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/169.wav",
        "text": "黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/170.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/171.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的立場非常地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/172.wav",
        "text": "清楚我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/173.wav",
        "text": "在整個提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/174.wav",
        "text": "階段的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/175.wav",
        "text": "符合釋字第613號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/176.wav",
        "text": "解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/177.wav",
        "text": "就必須讓我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/178.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/179.wav",
        "text": "在一開始的時候有推薦人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/180.wav",
        "text": "的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/181.wav",
        "text": "剛剛莊瑞雄委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/182.wav",
        "text": "釋字第613號解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/183.wav",
        "text": "我覺得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/184.wav",
        "text": "大家在看釋字第613"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/185.wav",
        "text": "號解釋的時候當初到底是怎麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/186.wav",
        "text": "宣告違憲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/187.wav",
        "text": "要一體地來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/188.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做要一體地來看當初是怎麼設計的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/189.wav",
        "text": "當初是連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/190.wav",
        "text": "推薦人選的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/191.wav",
        "text": "我們當時的立法者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/192.wav",
        "text": "所設計的都是政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/193.wav",
        "text": "推薦哦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/194.wav",
        "text": "人選的第一個階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/195.wav",
        "text": "就是由政黨比例推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/196.wav",
        "text": "18個人選裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/197.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/198.wav",
        "text": "只能夠推3個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/199.wav",
        "text": "這個是在釋字第613號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/200.wav",
        "text": "解釋被詬病最深的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/201.wav",
        "text": "我大概唸一下好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/202.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在討論大法官解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/203.wav",
        "text": "就要認真討論大法官解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/204.wav",
        "text": "通傳會組織法第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/205.wav",
        "text": "第2項第3項的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/206.wav",
        "text": "通傳會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/207.wav",
        "text": "逕由各政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/208.wav",
        "text": "依其在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/209.wav",
        "text": "所占席次比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/210.wav",
        "text": "共推薦15名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/211.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長推薦3名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/212.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/213.wav",
        "text": "交由各政黨所占席次比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/214.wav",
        "text": "推薦的學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/215.wav",
        "text": "組成的審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/216.wav",
        "text": "以五分之三與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/217.wav",
        "text": "二分之一的兩輪多數決審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/218.wav",
        "text": "它認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/219.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會實質地剝奪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/220.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長的提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/221.wav",
        "text": "因為它說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/222.wav",
        "text": "在整體選任程序中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/223.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/224.wav",
        "text": "竟然只能夠提六分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/225.wav",
        "text": "的通傳會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/226.wav",
        "text": "候選人推薦權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/227.wav",
        "text": "其人事決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/228.wav",
        "text": "實質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/229.wav",
        "text": "可謂業已幾乎完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/230.wav",
        "text": "遭到剝奪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/231.wav",
        "text": "大法官主要在指責的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/232.wav",
        "text": "我們並不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/233.wav",
        "text": "依照政黨的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/234.wav",
        "text": "來推選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/235.wav",
        "text": "NCC的委員因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/236.wav",
        "text": "它會違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/237.wav",
        "text": "我們對於NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/238.wav",
        "text": "本身具有獨立專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/239.wav",
        "text": "的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/240.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/241.wav",
        "text": "當我們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/242.wav",
        "text": "要去確保NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/243.wav",
        "text": "獨立專業的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/244.wav",
        "text": "不要跨越憲法紅線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/245.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的情況之下我們就要看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/246.wav",
        "text": "實際的狀況到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/247.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做實際的狀況到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/248.wav",
        "text": "前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/249.wav",
        "text": "完全交由行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/250.wav",
        "text": "院長提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/251.wav",
        "text": "後面完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/252.wav",
        "text": "只要過半喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/253.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的表決權數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/254.wav",
        "text": "是只要過半的立法院同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/255.wav",
        "text": "就可以行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/256.wav",
        "text": "當一黨完全執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/257.wav",
        "text": "一黨獨大的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/258.wav",
        "text": "就是行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/259.wav",
        "text": "他要提什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/260.wav",
        "text": "最後就會過什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/261.wav",
        "text": "\n我想在過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/262.wav",
        "text": "只要有全面執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/263.wav",
        "text": "經驗的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/264.wav",
        "text": "現實上面運作的狀況跟結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/265.wav",
        "text": "就是這個樣子嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/266.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有例外嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/267.wav",
        "text": "那這樣子選出來的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/268.wav",
        "text": "真的符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/269.wav",
        "text": "我們在釋字第613號裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/270.wav",
        "text": "以及我們在通傳會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/271.wav",
        "text": "組織法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/272.wav",
        "text": "要有獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/273.wav",
        "text": "要有專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/274.wav",
        "text": "然後得到社會的信任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/275.wav",
        "text": "有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/276.wav",
        "text": "真的有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/277.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/278.wav",
        "text": "他們權力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/279.wav",
        "text": "行使他們的組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/280.wav",
        "text": "他們的提名到通過的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/281.wav",
        "text": "真的取得社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/282.wav",
        "text": "對他們專業性跟獨立性的信賴嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/283.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/284.wav",
        "text": "我個人的淺見是沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/285.wav",
        "text": "這個社會上每個公民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/286.wav",
        "text": "心裡都有一把尺嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/287.wav",
        "text": "現在的機制挑出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/288.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/289.wav",
        "text": "是有符合釋字第613號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/290.wav",
        "text": "所揭示的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/291.wav",
        "text": "要有獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/292.wav",
        "text": "要有專業性真的有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/293.wav",
        "text": "我再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/294.wav",
        "text": "我認為沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/295.wav",
        "text": "為什麼沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/296.wav",
        "text": "最明顯的例子嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/297.wav",
        "text": "當初NCC委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/298.wav",
        "text": "裡號稱專業獨立的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/299.wav",
        "text": "不是通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/300.wav",
        "text": "那個台數科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/301.wav",
        "text": "生活臺還是綜合臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/302.wav",
        "text": "可以搞新聞臺的事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/303.wav",
        "text": "怎麼隔了一個禮拜以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/304.wav",
        "text": "蘇貞昌震怒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/305.wav",
        "text": "隔了一個禮拜以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/306.wav",
        "text": "前面已經通過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/307.wav",
        "text": "案子後來又自己把它給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/308.wav",
        "text": "否決掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/309.wav",
        "text": "這不是政治力介入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/310.wav",
        "text": "請問什麼是政治力介入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/311.wav",
        "text": "哪裡來的NCC的專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/312.wav",
        "text": "跟獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/313.wav",
        "text": "啊全部都是政黨的手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/314.wav",
        "text": "伸到NCC裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/315.wav",
        "text": "啊斧鑿斑斑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/316.wav",
        "text": "有關於這一次通傳會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/317.wav",
        "text": "組織法的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/318.wav",
        "text": "我再說明一次台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/319.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨並不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/320.wav",
        "text": "按照政黨的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/321.wav",
        "text": "來推薦人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/322.wav",
        "text": "這件事情我們並不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/323.wav",
        "text": "但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/324.wav",
        "text": "你要百分之一百零"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/325.wav",
        "text": "完全維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/326.wav",
        "text": "現行機制的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/327.wav",
        "text": "那我就邀請大家冷靜地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/328.wav",
        "text": "想一想現行的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/329.wav",
        "text": "審出來的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/330.wav",
        "text": "真的有反映社會上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/331.wav",
        "text": "對於NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/332.wav",
        "text": "專業獨立的要求嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/333.wav",
        "text": "我認為並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/334.wav",
        "text": "也正是因為這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/335.wav",
        "text": "我們才會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/336.wav",
        "text": "在委員會審查的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/337.wav",
        "text": "提出一個修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/338.wav",
        "text": "這個修正動議其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/339.wav",
        "text": "我們只是善意地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/340.wav",
        "text": "善意地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/341.wav",
        "text": "在不同的版本當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/342.wav",
        "text": "各個不同黨派的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/343.wav",
        "text": "可以為國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/344.wav",
        "text": "好好地冷靜思考的可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/345.wav",
        "text": "要提什麼樣子的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/346.wav",
        "text": "完全交由行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/347.wav",
        "text": "你要推薦什麼樣的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/348.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長可以推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/349.wav",
        "text": "但為了要維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/350.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員的專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/351.wav",
        "text": "以及超越黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/352.wav",
        "text": "社會上面期待的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/353.wav",
        "text": "我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/354.wav",
        "text": "他所推薦的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/355.wav",
        "text": "有一個審查會的組成機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/356.wav",
        "text": "依照各個不同政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/357.wav",
        "text": "專家學者組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/358.wav",
        "text": "審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/359.wav",
        "text": "最後只要行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/360.wav",
        "text": "真的是社會上面有清望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/361.wav",
        "text": "大家都認可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/362.wav",
        "text": "這個審查會也不敢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/363.wav",
        "text": "隨意否決啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/364.wav",
        "text": "在政治上面要付出代價的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/365.wav",
        "text": "有關於公視的董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/366.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣子提啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/367.wav",
        "text": "現在公視的董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/368.wav",
        "text": "雖然過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/369.wav",
        "text": "拖得比較長一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/370.wav",
        "text": "但問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/371.wav",
        "text": "最後該提的該過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/372.wav",
        "text": "也都過啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/373.wav",
        "text": "這個只是一個善意的折衷啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/374.wav",
        "text": "我必須要老實講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/375.wav",
        "text": "我們也不是說百分之一百零"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/376.wav",
        "text": "堅持一定要這樣子幹不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/377.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/378.wav",
        "text": "大家如果認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/379.wav",
        "text": "對於現行NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/380.wav",
        "text": "產生的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/381.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/382.wav",
        "text": "社會多數信賴的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/383.wav",
        "text": "那我們就要冷靜地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/384.wav",
        "text": "想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/385.wav",
        "text": "還要維持現在的方式嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/386.wav",
        "text": "\n還是應該要做一些改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/387.wav",
        "text": "這個是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/388.wav",
        "text": "所提出來意見的表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/389.wav",
        "text": "\n第二點這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/390.wav",
        "text": "有一個非常重要的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/391.wav",
        "text": "就是要把萬年NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/392.wav",
        "text": "條款廢除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/393.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做萬年NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/394.wav",
        "text": "條款廢除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/395.wav",
        "text": "在他任期屆至"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/396.wav",
        "text": "屆滿的時候沒有新的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/397.wav",
        "text": "原來的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/398.wav",
        "text": "可以繼續幹下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/399.wav",
        "text": "這件事情我可以先表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/400.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/401.wav",
        "text": "絕對反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/402.wav",
        "text": "在立法例上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/403.wav",
        "text": "哪有這樣子設計的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/404.wav",
        "text": "啊萬年委員制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/405.wav",
        "text": "陳耀祥主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/406.wav",
        "text": "在我們司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/407.wav",
        "text": "進行報告的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/408.wav",
        "text": "我聽了大驚失色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/409.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼大驚失色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/410.wav",
        "text": "我唸給大家聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/411.wav",
        "text": "第113卷第37期會議紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/412.wav",
        "text": "陳耀祥主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/413.wav",
        "text": "當初跟臺灣社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/414.wav",
        "text": "跟我們國會的報告內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/415.wav",
        "text": "是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/416.wav",
        "text": "有關於本會委員任期屆滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/417.wav",
        "text": "未能順利通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/418.wav",
        "text": "新提名委員時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/419.wav",
        "text": "應由原委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/420.wav",
        "text": "延任的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/421.wav",
        "text": "因為本會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/422.wav",
        "text": "第4條第5項規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/423.wav",
        "text": "是參照公平交易委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/424.wav",
        "text": "第4條第4項規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/425.wav",
        "text": "所訂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/426.wav",
        "text": "我那天在司法及法制委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/427.wav",
        "text": "聽到陳主委這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/428.wav",
        "text": "我不敢置信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/429.wav",
        "text": "啊因為這根本是假訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/430.wav",
        "text": "啊我為什麼說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/431.wav",
        "text": "這個是假訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/432.wav",
        "text": "\n當初我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/433.wav",
        "text": "正在討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/434.wav",
        "text": "原來的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/435.wav",
        "text": "屆滿的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/436.wav",
        "text": "沒有順利產生新提名委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/437.wav",
        "text": "由原委員延任的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/438.wav",
        "text": "這個NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/439.wav",
        "text": "是在2007年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/440.wav",
        "text": "12月20日修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/441.wav",
        "text": "2008年1月9日公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/442.wav",
        "text": "陳耀祥主委所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/443.wav",
        "text": "公平交易委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/444.wav",
        "text": "第4條第4項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/445.wav",
        "text": "相同的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/446.wav",
        "text": "是在2011年的時候修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/447.wav",
        "text": "你在2007年到2008年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/448.wav",
        "text": "修正的NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/449.wav",
        "text": "你先坐時光機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/450.wav",
        "text": "啊飛到3年以後去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/451.wav",
        "text": "2011年公平交易委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/452.wav",
        "text": "組織法會怎麼修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/453.wav",
        "text": "\n你要參照什麼法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/454.wav",
        "text": "你要比附援引其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/455.wav",
        "text": "立法例我都沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/456.wav",
        "text": "問題是你作為一個NCC的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/457.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣時空錯置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/458.wav",
        "text": "喔2007年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/459.wav",
        "text": "2008年修正的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/460.wav",
        "text": "竟然是參考2011年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/461.wav",
        "text": "修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/462.wav",
        "text": "事實上公平交易委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/463.wav",
        "text": "2011年修正的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/464.wav",
        "text": "它才是在它的立法理由裡面說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/465.wav",
        "text": "它是參考NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/466.wav",
        "text": "通傳會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/467.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼會把事情反過來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/468.wav",
        "text": "咧今天你NCC主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/469.wav",
        "text": "是主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/470.wav",
        "text": "耶你不是名嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/471.wav",
        "text": "耶名嘴在電視上面亂講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/472.wav",
        "text": "亂噴不用負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/473.wav",
        "text": "你NCC主委在立法院可以這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/474.wav",
        "text": "除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/475.wav",
        "text": "公平交易委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/476.wav",
        "text": "除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/477.wav",
        "text": "NCC以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/478.wav",
        "text": "同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/479.wav",
        "text": "同意通過的組織體有相類似的規定嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/480.wav",
        "text": "我們的司法院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/481.wav",
        "text": "我們的大法官有規定說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/482.wav",
        "text": "原任期到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/483.wav",
        "text": "沒有選出新的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/484.wav",
        "text": "既有的大法官繼續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/485.wav",
        "text": "延任下去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/486.wav",
        "text": "有這樣子的規定嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/487.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣規定嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/488.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/489.wav",
        "text": "萬年NCC委員的產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/490.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會有這麼離譜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/491.wav",
        "text": "這麼荒謬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/492.wav",
        "text": "立法上面的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/493.wav",
        "text": "當然十幾年前犯的錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/494.wav",
        "text": "現在要修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/495.wav",
        "text": "該修就要修嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/496.wav",
        "text": "該修就要修嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/497.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/498.wav",
        "text": "我要說明的事情是大家說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/499.wav",
        "text": "如果不審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/500.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/501.wav",
        "text": "這個就會牽涉到我們目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/502.wav",
        "text": "所陷入的僵局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/503.wav",
        "text": "所謂我們目前所陷入的僵局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/504.wav",
        "text": "是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/505.wav",
        "text": "舊的行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/506.wav",
        "text": "他把NCC提名的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/507.wav",
        "text": "送來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/508.wav",
        "text": "我們事實上是很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/509.wav",
        "text": "新的內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/510.wav",
        "text": "我們要強調行政院院長的人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/511.wav",
        "text": "任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/512.wav",
        "text": "嘛新的內閣要談責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/513.wav",
        "text": "嘛談責任政治的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/514.wav",
        "text": "那就提名的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/515.wav",
        "text": "我給他有決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/516.wav",
        "text": "提得不好行政院院長要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/517.wav",
        "text": "天經地義天公地道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/518.wav",
        "text": "嘛我相信這個責任政治的原理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/519.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/520.wav",
        "text": "但現在的狀況是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/521.wav",
        "text": "現在的狀況是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/522.wav",
        "text": "要卸任前的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/523.wav",
        "text": "看守內閣的院長提了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/524.wav",
        "text": "名單到立法院來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/525.wav",
        "text": "說我們要按照法律的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/526.wav",
        "text": "在任期屆滿前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/527.wav",
        "text": "3個月以前要提來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/528.wav",
        "text": "當然你要講到比較深刻的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/529.wav",
        "text": "就會有政權交接的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/530.wav",
        "text": "提名名單是不是有經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/531.wav",
        "text": "新的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/532.wav",
        "text": "新的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/533.wav",
        "text": "他們的認可他們的點頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/534.wav",
        "text": "這個政權交接條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/535.wav",
        "text": "的部分在我國目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/536.wav",
        "text": "立法上面還是處於空白的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/537.wav",
        "text": "但問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/538.wav",
        "text": "在實務上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/539.wav",
        "text": "實際的實踐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/540.wav",
        "text": "我們如果確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/541.wav",
        "text": "今天陳建仁送來的這4個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/542.wav",
        "text": "都是新的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/543.wav",
        "text": "他們點頭的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/544.wav",
        "text": "站在台灣民眾黨的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/545.wav",
        "text": "我可以清楚地表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/546.wav",
        "text": "我們贊成實質審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/547.wav",
        "text": "4個全部都進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/548.wav",
        "text": "審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/549.wav",
        "text": "我後來看了卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/550.wav",
        "text": "在立法院院會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/551.wav",
        "text": "在接受總質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/552.wav",
        "text": "他的表態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/553.wav",
        "text": "我看了就很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/554.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼看了很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/555.wav",
        "text": "因為中國國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/556.wav",
        "text": "黨團的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/557.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷委員上去質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/558.wav",
        "text": "如果我有轉述錯誤的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/559.wav",
        "text": "等一下再請您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/560.wav",
        "text": "更正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/561.wav",
        "text": "因為洪孟楷那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/562.wav",
        "text": "就問卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/563.wav",
        "text": "陳建仁他所提的4名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/564.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/565.wav",
        "text": "你知不知道你同不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/566.wav",
        "text": "結果卓榮泰的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/567.wav",
        "text": "回答是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/568.wav",
        "text": "陳院長有他作業的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/569.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/570.wav",
        "text": "我們當然沒有討論過這個名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/571.wav",
        "text": "欸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/572.wav",
        "text": "那代表的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/573.wav",
        "text": "這個名單他不僅沒參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/574.wav",
        "text": "還完全不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/575.wav",
        "text": "洪孟楷又繼續追問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/576.wav",
        "text": "那你屬意的名單什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/577.wav",
        "text": "會出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/578.wav",
        "text": "\n然後卓榮泰怎麼說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/579.wav",
        "text": "今天跟大院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/580.wav",
        "text": "完成施政報告後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/581.wav",
        "text": "我想我的工作會比較少一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/582.wav",
        "text": "所以我會去好好地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/583.wav",
        "text": "看這個名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/584.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰說他之前不了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/585.wav",
        "text": "今天來報告沒空"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/586.wav",
        "text": "今天報告完了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/587.wav",
        "text": "可能會有空要來看這個名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/588.wav",
        "text": "然後洪孟楷問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/589.wav",
        "text": "下禮拜會出來嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/590.wav",
        "text": "我會去開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/591.wav",
        "text": "認真地檢視名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/592.wav",
        "text": "在最短的時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/593.wav",
        "text": "讓委員看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/594.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們行政院院長卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/595.wav",
        "text": "在立法院總質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/596.wav",
        "text": "所做出來的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/597.wav",
        "text": "我不知道他後來是讓哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/598.wav",
        "text": "委員看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/599.wav",
        "text": "不過身為立法委員其中的一名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/600.wav",
        "text": "我必須要老實跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/601.wav",
        "text": "我是沒看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/602.wav",
        "text": "我到目前為止沒看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/603.wav",
        "text": "我不知道孟楷兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/604.wav",
        "text": "是不是有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/605.wav",
        "text": "\n因為我看完了這個詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/606.wav",
        "text": "的內容除非後面發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/607.wav",
        "text": "什麼事情是我有漏掉的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/608.wav",
        "text": "從這個詢答的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/609.wav",
        "text": "清楚地展現出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/610.wav",
        "text": "一個態度什麼態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/611.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/612.wav",
        "text": "陳建仁所提的這4個NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/613.wav",
        "text": "新的政府是沒有參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/614.wav",
        "text": "沒有與聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/615.wav",
        "text": "甚至不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/616.wav",
        "text": "後來看了名單才知道的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/617.wav",
        "text": "我們現在當然沒看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/618.wav",
        "text": "我們也在等卓榮泰院長提出新名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/619.wav",
        "text": "好我現在的問題就來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/620.wav",
        "text": "啦從責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/621.wav",
        "text": "的角度上面來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/622.wav",
        "text": "這4個人是誰要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/623.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰認不認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/624.wav",
        "text": "最起碼新的行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/625.wav",
        "text": "新內閣新的行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/626.wav",
        "text": "我們同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/627.wav",
        "text": "我們背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/628.wav",
        "text": "如果卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/629.wav",
        "text": "做這樣的表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/630.wav",
        "text": "台灣民眾黨黨團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/631.wav",
        "text": "絕對支持現在這4個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/632.wav",
        "text": "進入實質審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/633.wav",
        "text": "因為新的行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/634.wav",
        "text": "新的內閣就背書了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/635.wav",
        "text": "既然他們要背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/636.wav",
        "text": "我們在釋字613號所討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/637.wav",
        "text": "剛剛不斷強調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/638.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長人事提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/639.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/640.wav",
        "text": "基於行政一體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/641.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長基於責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/642.wav",
        "text": "要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/643.wav",
        "text": "讓我們清楚地知道那個行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/644.wav",
        "text": "叫卓榮泰嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/645.wav",
        "text": "否則的話我們接下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/646.wav",
        "text": "繼續審查會很荒謬啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/647.wav",
        "text": "繼續審查了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/648.wav",
        "text": "到時候人選被爆出了什麼醜聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/649.wav",
        "text": "什麼弊案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/650.wav",
        "text": "什麼樣子不當的往來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/651.wav",
        "text": "然後審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/652.wav",
        "text": "在立法院裡面被封殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/653.wav",
        "text": "的這個責任是誰要扛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/654.wav",
        "text": "難不成要去追陳建仁嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/655.wav",
        "text": "人家都已經卸任了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/656.wav",
        "text": "也回歸學術界了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/657.wav",
        "text": "這樣不公平嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/658.wav",
        "text": "所以現在提名的這4個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/659.wav",
        "text": "行政院到底認不認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/660.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/661.wav",
        "text": "跟我們現在組織法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/662.wav",
        "text": "有非常大的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/663.wav",
        "text": "\n我是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/664.wav",
        "text": "剛好藉由這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/665.wav",
        "text": "在公開的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/666.wav",
        "text": "正式的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/667.wav",
        "text": "向我們的行政院院長卓榮泰喊話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/668.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/669.wav",
        "text": "來立法院備詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/670.wav",
        "text": "跟全體國人講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/671.wav",
        "text": "說你要去檢視名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/672.wav",
        "text": "最短的時間讓委員看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/673.wav",
        "text": "我們到目前為止全部沒看到啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/674.wav",
        "text": "這4個人你到底是OK不OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/675.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/676.wav",
        "text": "如果不釐清的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/677.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在這邊討論行政一體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/678.wav",
        "text": "在這邊討論責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/679.wav",
        "text": "豈不很可笑嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/680.wav",
        "text": "說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/681.wav",
        "text": "這4個不是我提的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/682.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要背書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/683.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有要扛行政責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/684.wav",
        "text": "那也拜託行政院院長卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/685.wav",
        "text": "清楚地表明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/686.wav",
        "text": "這個時候我覺得我們立法院該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/687.wav",
        "text": "落實責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/688.wav",
        "text": "就是我們把名單退回去給行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/689.wav",
        "text": "讓新的行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/690.wav",
        "text": "基於責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/691.wav",
        "text": "他有重新提名4位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/692.wav",
        "text": "的空間跟可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/693.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/694.wav",
        "text": "針對今天所協商的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/695.wav",
        "text": "表達意見謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/696.wav",
        "text": "那就先請洪委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/697.wav",
        "text": "感謝召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/698.wav",
        "text": "委安排這個協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/699.wav",
        "text": "我比較簡單快速地把這幾個意見表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/700.wav",
        "text": "其實我們現在討論的是第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/701.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/702.wav",
        "text": "字第613這個解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/703.wav",
        "text": "大家都已經有研讀過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/704.wav",
        "text": "所以也不需要在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/705.wav",
        "text": "班門弄斧或者是抖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/706.wav",
        "text": "抖包袱去針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/707.wav",
        "text": "613這個解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/708.wav",
        "text": "而是我們很實際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/709.wav",
        "text": "這個條文到底有沒有可修正之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/710.wav",
        "text": "確實有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/711.wav",
        "text": "到現在已經快20年左右的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/712.wav",
        "text": "現實狀況確實有窒礙難行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/713.wav",
        "text": "或是真的有影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/714.wav",
        "text": "必須要修正之處\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/715.wav",
        "text": "簡單來講第4條裡面有三大重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/716.wav",
        "text": "第一到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/717.wav",
        "text": "NCC的委員任期能不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/718.wav",
        "text": "持續連任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/719.wav",
        "text": "變成萬年NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/720.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個部分也是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/721.wav",
        "text": "眾多委員版本裡面有修正到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/722.wav",
        "text": "的部分第二NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/723.wav",
        "text": "委員組成的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/724.wav",
        "text": "到底為何組成的方式為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/725.wav",
        "text": "是由現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/726.wav",
        "text": "的行政院長提名行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/727.wav",
        "text": "就送出來到立法院立法院做審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/728.wav",
        "text": "或者是像我們幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/729.wav",
        "text": "提出來的版本是經由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/730.wav",
        "text": "審查會並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/731.wav",
        "text": "直接針對NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/732.wav",
        "text": "的名單去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/733.wav",
        "text": "挑選而是經由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/734.wav",
        "text": "依政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/735.wav",
        "text": "所組成的審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/736.wav",
        "text": "行政院提出來之後經由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/737.wav",
        "text": "審查會先做初步的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/738.wav",
        "text": "審視之後再送來立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/739.wav",
        "text": "這是第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/740.wav",
        "text": "在某種程度上也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/741.wav",
        "text": "完整這個名單的公正性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/742.wav",
        "text": "專業度以及獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/743.wav",
        "text": "因為過去到現在NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/744.wav",
        "text": "委員被人家詬病的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/745.wav",
        "text": "尤其是這4年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/746.wav",
        "text": "針對每一個案件有不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/747.wav",
        "text": "針對每一個申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/748.wav",
        "text": "有不同狀況的裁示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/749.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員沒有在3個月內補滿的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/750.wav",
        "text": "iPhone都買不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/751.wav",
        "text": "這種話都可以講得出來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/752.wav",
        "text": "真的是笑掉國人的大牙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/753.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰院長都已經在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/754.wav",
        "text": "備詢臺上打臉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/755.wav",
        "text": "\n好我拉回來第三點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/756.wav",
        "text": "第4條裡面還強調一個什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/757.wav",
        "text": "就是強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/758.wav",
        "text": "委員真的沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/759.wav",
        "text": "替補的話怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/760.wav",
        "text": "現在的條文規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/761.wav",
        "text": "做下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/762.wav",
        "text": "之前答詢的時候就已經講啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/763.wav",
        "text": "啦731他的任期到了之後他就會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/764.wav",
        "text": "回歸學術界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/765.wav",
        "text": "他就不會留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/766.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以換言之你的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/767.wav",
        "text": "我想這也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/768.wav",
        "text": "現在的行政官員跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/769.wav",
        "text": "現在的組織法規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/770.wav",
        "text": "有不同之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/771.wav",
        "text": "嘛組織法規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/772.wav",
        "text": "如果人選還沒有到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/773.wav",
        "text": "你是要持續喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/774.wav",
        "text": "但是陳耀祥主委說時間到了他就是要離開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/775.wav",
        "text": "所以陳耀祥主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/776.wav",
        "text": "如果假設在現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/777.wav",
        "text": "尤其剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/778.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員也特別提到我在5月31日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/779.wav",
        "text": "5月31日的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/780.wav",
        "text": "我有特別請教卓榮泰院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/781.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯我就說陳建仁前院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/782.wav",
        "text": "匆匆地把4個名單提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/783.wav",
        "text": "但是5月20日之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/784.wav",
        "text": "那5月20日之後我們也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/785.wav",
        "text": "新任的卓榮泰院長應該要針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/786.wav",
        "text": "這個名單來了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/787.wav",
        "text": "啊結果卓榮泰院長說他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/788.wav",
        "text": "不知情之前這4位名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/789.wav",
        "text": "而卓榮泰院長在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/790.wav",
        "text": "總質詢的備詢臺上親口說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/791.wav",
        "text": "最短時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/792.wav",
        "text": "提出新名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/793.wav",
        "text": "5月31日卓榮泰院長親口講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/794.wav",
        "text": "最短時間內提出新名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/795.wav",
        "text": "因為他在這10天從5月20"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/796.wav",
        "text": "日到5月31日這10天內看了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/797.wav",
        "text": "重要場域跟準備施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/798.wav",
        "text": "沒有深入NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/799.wav",
        "text": "提名名單所以承諾最"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/800.wav",
        "text": "短時間內一定會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/801.wav",
        "text": "以行政院的立場來檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/802.wav",
        "text": "名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/803.wav",
        "text": "兩個禮拜的時間過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/804.wav",
        "text": "5月31日到現在6月14日兩個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/805.wav",
        "text": "了我們還是沒有看到所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/806.wav",
        "text": "新名單所謂卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/807.wav",
        "text": "院長想要提出的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/808.wav",
        "text": "\n好這三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/809.wav",
        "text": "部分才是我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/810.wav",
        "text": "應該要來討論的地方既然如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/811.wav",
        "text": "我們現在看到有民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/812.wav",
        "text": "的版本有國民黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/813.wav",
        "text": "各委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/814.wav",
        "text": "民進黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/815.wav",
        "text": "今天既然我們要逐條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/816.wav",
        "text": "都已經進入到實質的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/817.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是不是就針對這三大方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/818.wav",
        "text": "我們各自表達自己的主張意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/819.wav",
        "text": "第一能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/820.wav",
        "text": "接受萬年NCC委員嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/821.wav",
        "text": "如果不能接受的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/822.wav",
        "text": "本席的版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/823.wav",
        "text": "委員的版本都有提到就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/824.wav",
        "text": "任滿得連任一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/825.wav",
        "text": "這很具體吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/826.wav",
        "text": "我覺得等一下大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/827.wav",
        "text": "應該要針對這個部分逐條審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/828.wav",
        "text": "的時候我們就要表態啊你是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/829.wav",
        "text": "連任依照現行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/830.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法不修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/831.wav",
        "text": "無限期連任還是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/832.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員連任一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/833.wav",
        "text": "第二審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/834.wav",
        "text": "會的組成我們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/835.wav",
        "text": "審查會有不同比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/836.wav",
        "text": "有7人有9人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/837.wav",
        "text": "有一半一半的審查會組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/838.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這都可以充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/839.wav",
        "text": "表達意見如果沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/840.wav",
        "text": "辦法取得共識的話建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/841.wav",
        "text": "召委這邊可以針對這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/842.wav",
        "text": "部分來做保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/843.wav",
        "text": "但是儘可能地來提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/844.wav",
        "text": "一個共識我們也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/845.wav",
        "text": "之前就已經討論過之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/846.wav",
        "text": "也跟法學專家學者都討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/847.wav",
        "text": "過現行的狀況是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/848.wav",
        "text": "不會違反釋字61"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/849.wav",
        "text": "3號的所以不會有違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/850.wav",
        "text": "到了沒有替補人選怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/851.wav",
        "text": "我們有幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/852.wav",
        "text": "的修正版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/853.wav",
        "text": "任期到未能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/854.wav",
        "text": "通過立法院同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/855.wav",
        "text": "原任委員任期應終止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/856.wav",
        "text": "不得延任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/857.wav",
        "text": "也非常具體啊我也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/858.wav",
        "text": "拜託我們黨團大家能夠表個態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/859.wav",
        "text": "你是認為說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/860.wav",
        "text": "如果行政院長沒有提出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/861.wav",
        "text": "名單之後立法院沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/862.wav",
        "text": "同意的話原有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/863.wav",
        "text": "還可以持續喔那這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/864.wav",
        "text": "就真的是萬年NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/865.wav",
        "text": "喔我們不需要放水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/866.wav",
        "text": "嘛立法院的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/867.wav",
        "text": "也不需要配合行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/868.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們不要有這種時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/869.wav",
        "text": "的壓力而造成我們必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/870.wav",
        "text": "倉促草率便宜行事嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/871.wav",
        "text": "所以第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/872.wav",
        "text": "能不能連任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/873.wav",
        "text": "連任幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/874.wav",
        "text": "以及產生委員的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/875.wav",
        "text": "是否用審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/876.wav",
        "text": "還有是不是任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/877.wav",
        "text": "到了之後如果真的沒有補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/878.wav",
        "text": "齊人的話應該不得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/879.wav",
        "text": "延續下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/880.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這三點也拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/881.wav",
        "text": "更聚焦我想這才符合我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/882.wav",
        "text": "逐條審查的精神跟作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/883.wav",
        "text": "\n本席剛剛提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/884.wav",
        "text": "我的意見是第一我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/885.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員連任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/886.wav",
        "text": "應該要有審查會的制度來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/887.wav",
        "text": "確保我們能夠提出公正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/888.wav",
        "text": "專業獨立的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/889.wav",
        "text": "如果真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/890.wav",
        "text": "立法院不應該有時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/891.wav",
        "text": "部分即便委員任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/892.wav",
        "text": "到了之後他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/893.wav",
        "text": "任期也就終止NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/894.wav",
        "text": "的業務不會因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/895.wav",
        "text": "少一兩位委員就日常業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/896.wav",
        "text": "不作為畢竟NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/897.wav",
        "text": "還是有公務同仁嘛我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/898.wav",
        "text": "的行政人員都可以來持續進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/899.wav",
        "text": "相關業務所以不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/900.wav",
        "text": "造成NCC停擺的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/901.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/902.wav",
        "text": "請鍾佳濱召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/903.wav",
        "text": "謝謝剛剛傾聽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/904.wav",
        "text": "前面3位委員的高見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/905.wav",
        "text": "可惜洪委員要離開了不然我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/906.wav",
        "text": "仍然是要提出釋字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/907.wav",
        "text": "613號我沒有要離開我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/908.wav",
        "text": "分三個部分第一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/909.wav",
        "text": "到底釋字613號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/910.wav",
        "text": "當時被宣告違憲的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/911.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/912.wav",
        "text": "條文內容是哪個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/913.wav",
        "text": "部分牴觸憲法規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/914.wav",
        "text": "而違憲的這個地方要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/915.wav",
        "text": "首先來釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/916.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣照例很可惜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/917.wav",
        "text": "的我們委員在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/918.wav",
        "text": "闡述釋字號的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/919.wav",
        "text": "還是談前面那一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/920.wav",
        "text": "後面那一半我們來看一看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/921.wav",
        "text": "解釋文這裡面所提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/922.wav",
        "text": "關於委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/923.wav",
        "text": "任滿提名及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/924.wav",
        "text": "出缺提名之規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/925.wav",
        "text": "實質上幾近完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/926.wav",
        "text": "剝奪行政院之人事決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/927.wav",
        "text": "將剝奪自行政院之人事決定權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/928.wav",
        "text": "實質上移轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/929.wav",
        "text": "由立法院各政黨（團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/930.wav",
        "text": "）依其在立法院所占"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/931.wav",
        "text": "席次比例推薦組成之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/932.wav",
        "text": "審查會共同行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/933.wav",
        "text": "影響人民對通傳會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/934.wav",
        "text": "應超越政治之公正性信賴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/935.wav",
        "text": "為獨立機關之建制目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/936.wav",
        "text": "\nOK這裡面談到兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/937.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/938.wav",
        "text": "這個審查委員會在當時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/939.wav",
        "text": "是由政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/940.wav",
        "text": "依立法院所占"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/941.wav",
        "text": "之席次比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/942.wav",
        "text": "有11位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/943.wav",
        "text": "那這個審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/944.wav",
        "text": "被宣告違憲的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/945.wav",
        "text": "是有18名委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/946.wav",
        "text": "15名是由政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/947.wav",
        "text": "依照所占席次比例來推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/948.wav",
        "text": "3名留給行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/949.wav",
        "text": "成六分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/950.wav",
        "text": "這當然是大法官認為所不宜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/951.wav",
        "text": "接下來這18名送交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/952.wav",
        "text": "給11席的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/953.wav",
        "text": "偏偏這11席的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/954.wav",
        "text": "完完全全是按照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/955.wav",
        "text": "政黨比例由政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/956.wav",
        "text": "來形成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/957.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會就決定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/958.wav",
        "text": "這18名提名者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/959.wav",
        "text": "\n大法官在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/960.wav",
        "text": "有兩個部分一個是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/961.wav",
        "text": "按政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/962.wav",
        "text": "這是剝奪了行政院的人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/963.wav",
        "text": "任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/964.wav",
        "text": "任命的時候是任命全額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/965.wav",
        "text": "但是在缺額的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/966.wav",
        "text": "到底要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/967.wav",
        "text": "由政黨依什麼樣的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/968.wav",
        "text": "來推薦行政院長會提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/969.wav",
        "text": "任滿再提名以及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/970.wav",
        "text": "缺額提名的時候這裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/971.wav",
        "text": "實質上似乎已經沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/972.wav",
        "text": "行政院長提名的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/973.wav",
        "text": "就這兩個部分來加以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/974.wav",
        "text": "申論重要的是他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/975.wav",
        "text": "講到這是一個獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/976.wav",
        "text": "\n那我們要先分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/977.wav",
        "text": "到底大法官是認為有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/978.wav",
        "text": "依政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/979.wav",
        "text": "形成的提名審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/980.wav",
        "text": "是否跟獨立機關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/981.wav",
        "text": "本質上有所違誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/982.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/983.wav",
        "text": "顧名思義應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/984.wav",
        "text": "超越政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/985.wav",
        "text": "以上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/986.wav",
        "text": "獨立行使職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/987.wav",
        "text": "我們目前獨立機關有3個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/988.wav",
        "text": "一個是中選會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/989.wav",
        "text": "一個是公平交易委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/990.wav",
        "text": "一個就是NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/991.wav",
        "text": "中選會自不待言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/992.wav",
        "text": "它是要來主持國家各種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/993.wav",
        "text": "大小選舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/994.wav",
        "text": "所以它當然必須獨立行使職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/995.wav",
        "text": "更不可能由政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/996.wav",
        "text": "依比例來提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/997.wav",
        "text": "過去的違憲條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/998.wav",
        "text": "它設了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/999.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會是依政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1000.wav",
        "text": "這樣的本質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1001.wav",
        "text": "就完全違反了獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1002.wav",
        "text": "應具備的程序條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1003.wav",
        "text": "\n當然我們看到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1004.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得今天討論的民眾黨團版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1005.wav",
        "text": "因為上面沒有寫民眾黨團版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1006.wav",
        "text": "對不起我沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1007.wav",
        "text": "我只看到傅崐萁委員版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1008.wav",
        "text": "先就傅崐萁委員版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1009.wav",
        "text": "它今天做了一個技術性的轉移"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1010.wav",
        "text": "它仍然要成立一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1011.wav",
        "text": "提名審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1012.wav",
        "text": "學者專家來組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1013.wav",
        "text": "而它是依照政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1014.wav",
        "text": "在立法院的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1015.wav",
        "text": "來推薦組成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1016.wav",
        "text": "可是它組成之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1017.wav",
        "text": "它所審酌通過的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1018.wav",
        "text": "是由行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1019.wav",
        "text": "應參酌審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1020.wav",
        "text": "審查結果提出名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1021.wav",
        "text": "來送請立法院同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1022.wav",
        "text": "似乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1023.wav",
        "text": "新的版本這是第二點要申論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1024.wav",
        "text": "了新的版本仍然保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1025.wav",
        "text": "有原來違憲條款當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1026.wav",
        "text": "要依政黨比例來組成一個審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1027.wav",
        "text": "只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1028.wav",
        "text": "在處理提名名單的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1029.wav",
        "text": "它是處理完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1030.wav",
        "text": "交給行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1031.wav",
        "text": "參酌審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1032.wav",
        "text": "審查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1033.wav",
        "text": "提出名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1034.wav",
        "text": "意思好像說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1035.wav",
        "text": "依照政黨比例所成立的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1036.wav",
        "text": "審查同意的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1037.wav",
        "text": "由行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1038.wav",
        "text": "交由立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1039.wav",
        "text": "來行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1040.wav",
        "text": "同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1041.wav",
        "text": "大家想想看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1042.wav",
        "text": "前面這一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1043.wav",
        "text": "11席的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1044.wav",
        "text": "完完全全是依照立法院的政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1045.wav",
        "text": "成它同意的名單再交給行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1046.wav",
        "text": "再送給立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1047.wav",
        "text": "來進行同意權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1048.wav",
        "text": "大家可想而知行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1049.wav",
        "text": "在這當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1050.wav",
        "text": "有什麼不審酌的餘地嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1051.wav",
        "text": "有什麼不審酌的餘地嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1052.wav",
        "text": "難道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1053.wav",
        "text": "提出這個版本的政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1054.wav",
        "text": "真的認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1055.wav",
        "text": "當年釋字613號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1056.wav",
        "text": "我們大法官所指責的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1057.wav",
        "text": "NCC作為獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1058.wav",
        "text": "它的審查委員會這個機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1059.wav",
        "text": "竟然是由立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1060.wav",
        "text": "依政黨比例形成的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1061.wav",
        "text": "當年的原條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1062.wav",
        "text": "是審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1063.wav",
        "text": "由立法院同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1064.wav",
        "text": "現在新的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1065.wav",
        "text": "2024年的版本它轉個彎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1066.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1067.wav",
        "text": "交給行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1068.wav",
        "text": "參酌再送給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1069.wav",
        "text": "立法院來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1070.wav",
        "text": "難道這樣會導致出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1071.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1072.wav",
        "text": "當年要挑戰釋字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1073.wav",
        "text": "釋字613的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1074.wav",
        "text": "修正條文被宣告違憲而作廢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1075.wav",
        "text": "今天捲土重來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1076.wav",
        "text": "只是在審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1077.wav",
        "text": "跟立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1078.wav",
        "text": "同意權的行使當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1079.wav",
        "text": "卡一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1080.wav",
        "text": "行政院長參酌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1081.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1082.wav",
        "text": "我們對於大法官會議的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1083.wav",
        "text": "千萬不能只讀一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1084.wav",
        "text": "尤其不能只讀前半段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1085.wav",
        "text": "後半段講到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1086.wav",
        "text": "它是一個獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1087.wav",
        "text": "\n正因為是獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1088.wav",
        "text": "我講第三個部分了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1089.wav",
        "text": "它跟公共電視又不同了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1090.wav",
        "text": "公視委員會它的確是由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1091.wav",
        "text": "立法院來組成依政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1092.wav",
        "text": "提名的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1093.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1094.wav",
        "text": "公共電視是獨立機關嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1095.wav",
        "text": "公共電視是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1096.wav",
        "text": "財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1097.wav",
        "text": "耶它的董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1098.wav",
        "text": "是由立法院的一個審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1099.wav",
        "text": "來行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1100.wav",
        "text": "這個審查委員會對一個財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1101.wav",
        "text": "公共電視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1102.wav",
        "text": "董事會是公共電視的經營者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1103.wav",
        "text": "這跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1104.wav",
        "text": "中選會公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1105.wav",
        "text": "NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1106.wav",
        "text": "是獨立機關代表國家公權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1107.wav",
        "text": "行使公權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1108.wav",
        "text": "的地位是不可同日而語的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1109.wav",
        "text": "所以大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1110.wav",
        "text": "不會去管公共電視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1111.wav",
        "text": "在立法院依照政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1112.wav",
        "text": "而形成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1113.wav",
        "text": "提名委員會或者是審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1114.wav",
        "text": "他不會去管你這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1115.wav",
        "text": "他會來關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1116.wav",
        "text": "作為3個獨立機關之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1117.wav",
        "text": "的NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1118.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼可以把它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1119.wav",
        "text": "提名名單先交給一個由政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1120.wav",
        "text": "組成的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1121.wav",
        "text": "經過審查同意後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1122.wav",
        "text": "才交給行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1123.wav",
        "text": "再回給立法院來行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1124.wav",
        "text": "錯的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1125.wav",
        "text": "不因為你拐個彎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1126.wav",
        "text": "就會變成對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1127.wav",
        "text": "還持有這樣觀念的在野黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1128.wav",
        "text": "如果真的對NCC有不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1129.wav",
        "text": "有幾個版本可以參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1130.wav",
        "text": "\n第四個部分我們今天看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1131.wav",
        "text": "逕付二讀委員提案當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1132.wav",
        "text": "有賴士葆委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1133.wav",
        "text": "這裡是寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1134.wav",
        "text": "他加了遴選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1135.wav",
        "text": "加了公正人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1136.wav",
        "text": "加了這幾個字樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1137.wav",
        "text": "至於李彥秀委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1138.wav",
        "text": "抱歉因為文字底下沒有畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1139.wav",
        "text": "黑線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1140.wav",
        "text": "我仔細去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1141.wav",
        "text": "現行條文有哪些修正意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1142.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得至少看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1143.wav",
        "text": "賴士葆委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1144.wav",
        "text": "修正提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1145.wav",
        "text": "事實上跟現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1146.wav",
        "text": "憲法的現行條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1147.wav",
        "text": "是有修正的空間餘地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1148.wav",
        "text": "可以加以考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1149.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛委員有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1150.wav",
        "text": "所謂的萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1151.wav",
        "text": "的確在時序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1152.wav",
        "text": "2007年是先有NCC的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1153.wav",
        "text": "組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1154.wav",
        "text": "在2011年有公平會的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1155.wav",
        "text": "這裡面都有共同同樣的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1156.wav",
        "text": "我看到李彥秀委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1157.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1158.wav",
        "text": "到底為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1159.wav",
        "text": "公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1160.wav",
        "text": "上面所寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1161.wav",
        "text": "就是被刪除的第5項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1162.wav",
        "text": "本會委員任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1163.wav",
        "text": "屆滿未能依前項規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1164.wav",
        "text": "提任時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1165.wav",
        "text": "原任委員之任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1166.wav",
        "text": "得延至新任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1167.wav",
        "text": "就職前一日止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1168.wav",
        "text": "不受第1項任期之限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1169.wav",
        "text": "看起來李彥秀委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1170.wav",
        "text": "的部分是把這一項拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1171.wav",
        "text": "就是剛剛黃委員所稱的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1172.wav",
        "text": "萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1173.wav",
        "text": "說是萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1174.wav",
        "text": "啊因為我覺得這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1175.wav",
        "text": "很眼熟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1176.wav",
        "text": "我也可以理解它為什麼叫萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1177.wav",
        "text": "大家可以看到中華民國憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1178.wav",
        "text": "本文第28條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1179.wav",
        "text": "國民大會代表每六年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1180.wav",
        "text": "改選一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1181.wav",
        "text": "每屆國民大會代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1182.wav",
        "text": "之任期至次屆國民大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1183.wav",
        "text": "開會之日為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1184.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1185.wav",
        "text": "如果大家年輕的時候去反對過萬年國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1186.wav",
        "text": "這就是當時國民大會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1187.wav",
        "text": "萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1188.wav",
        "text": "因為中華民國的第1屆國民大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1189.wav",
        "text": "任期6年要改選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1190.wav",
        "text": "但是始終無法改選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1191.wav",
        "text": "所以下一屆一直不能產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1192.wav",
        "text": "因此也是經過同樣的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1193.wav",
        "text": "所以就有第1屆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1194.wav",
        "text": "增額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1195.wav",
        "text": "每次選來選去都還是第1屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1196.wav",
        "text": "因為第2屆選不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1197.wav",
        "text": "所以第1屆的任期就不斷地不斷地要等到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1198.wav",
        "text": "第2屆國民大會開會之日為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1199.wav",
        "text": "大家知道第2屆什麼時候開始嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1200.wav",
        "text": "1992年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1201.wav",
        "text": "1992年終於在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1202.wav",
        "text": "國民大會代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1203.wav",
        "text": "所以第1屆國民大會代表才可以落幕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1204.wav",
        "text": "包括增額的改由第2屆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1205.wav",
        "text": "國民大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1206.wav",
        "text": "\n那大家一定好奇啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1207.wav",
        "text": "當時這一部神聖的中華民國憲法的制憲者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1208.wav",
        "text": "為什麼去制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1209.wav",
        "text": "為什麼6年屆滿了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1210.wav",
        "text": "還要等到下一屆選出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1211.wav",
        "text": "才能夠產生下一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1212.wav",
        "text": "任期要到下一屆產生了才出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1213.wav",
        "text": "大家有興趣可以看一看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1214.wav",
        "text": "這是憲政的考古題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1215.wav",
        "text": "為什麼當年大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1216.wav",
        "text": "要這樣子讓萬年國會得以延任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1217.wav",
        "text": "我個人當然反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1218.wav",
        "text": "但是為什麼公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1219.wav",
        "text": "跟NCC都必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1220.wav",
        "text": "要具有這樣的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1221.wav",
        "text": "到下一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1222.wav",
        "text": "任期產生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1223.wav",
        "text": "委員出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1224.wav",
        "text": "他的前一任才任滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1225.wav",
        "text": "是有什麼樣的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1226.wav",
        "text": "比一個國民大會神聖的政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1227.wav",
        "text": "延續還重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1228.wav",
        "text": "必須讓他們能夠有這樣的具備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1229.wav",
        "text": "因為顯然的李彥秀委員的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1230.wav",
        "text": "刪除了這個條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1231.wav",
        "text": "相信李委員一定有很好的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1232.wav",
        "text": "來告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1233.wav",
        "text": "為什麼NCC跟公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1234.wav",
        "text": "不需要所謂的萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1235.wav",
        "text": "\nNCC跟公平會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1236.wav",
        "text": "有什麼重要的國家行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1237.wav",
        "text": "在獨立機關必須行使職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1238.wav",
        "text": "不得中斷的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1239.wav",
        "text": "竟膽敢斗膽援引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1240.wav",
        "text": "當年萬年國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1241.wav",
        "text": "讓國民大會萬年不用改選的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1242.wav",
        "text": "來作為延續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1243.wav",
        "text": "2007年跟2011年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1244.wav",
        "text": "立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1245.wav",
        "text": "竟然也斗膽地通過了這樣的萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1246.wav",
        "text": "我們真的非常的好奇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1247.wav",
        "text": "願聞其詳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1248.wav",
        "text": "也希望提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1249.wav",
        "text": "跟在座的行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1250.wav",
        "text": "可以提供一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1251.wav",
        "text": "意見讓我們來了解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1252.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1253.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1254.wav",
        "text": "我們在處理通傳法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1255.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很多的時空"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1256.wav",
        "text": "還有很多的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1257.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關當時在設計上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1258.wav",
        "text": "跟一般行政機關最大的不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1259.wav",
        "text": "是在人事上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1260.wav",
        "text": "它必須是獨立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1261.wav",
        "text": "這是獨立機關當時設計的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1262.wav",
        "text": "我們今天在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1263.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關的人事同意權的同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1264.wav",
        "text": "我們也必須思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1265.wav",
        "text": "它必須是專業化跟去政治化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1266.wav",
        "text": "也必須思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1267.wav",
        "text": "社會多元的價值在裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1268.wav",
        "text": "所以也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1269.wav",
        "text": "在人事上的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1270.wav",
        "text": "在運作上它必須要減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1271.wav",
        "text": "上級機關的干預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1272.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們在整體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1273.wav",
        "text": "人事制度上的設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1274.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛大家一直提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1275.wav",
        "text": "釋字613號的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1276.wav",
        "text": "那我就把它唸一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1277.wav",
        "text": "行政院院長更迭的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1278.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關事實上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1279.wav",
        "text": "享有任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1280.wav",
        "text": "並不會因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1281.wav",
        "text": "我們現在產生新的行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1282.wav",
        "text": "而受到影響所以獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1283.wav",
        "text": "跟著行政院長同進退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1284.wav",
        "text": "也就是說他的任期是4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1285.wav",
        "text": "4年我們一蓋下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1286.wav",
        "text": "他的人事同意權事實上他是受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1287.wav",
        "text": "4年的保障的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1288.wav",
        "text": "但是反過來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1289.wav",
        "text": "4年任期到的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1290.wav",
        "text": "他自然就不受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1291.wav",
        "text": "任何人事保障跟任命的基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1292.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1293.wav",
        "text": "蓋人事同意權的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1294.wav",
        "text": "4年之後我們是不是要持續地保障他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1295.wav",
        "text": "這個就是今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1296.wav",
        "text": "我在處理第4條的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1297.wav",
        "text": "我的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1298.wav",
        "text": "我覺得當他不具有任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1299.wav",
        "text": "同意權的基礎他自然卸任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1300.wav",
        "text": "你不能因為任何因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1301.wav",
        "text": "而擅自延長他的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1302.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1303.wav",
        "text": "同意權送進來立法院的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1304.wav",
        "text": "如果立法院沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1305.wav",
        "text": "行政院就要去思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1306.wav",
        "text": "要不要調整它的名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1307.wav",
        "text": "不能因為立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1308.wav",
        "text": "不同意任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1309.wav",
        "text": "現任的委員就不斷地延任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1310.wav",
        "text": "而逃避應該有的監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1311.wav",
        "text": "這個是第4條當中我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1312.wav",
        "text": "\n第5條當中我也順便說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1313.wav",
        "text": "行政院長提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1314.wav",
        "text": "指定人選裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1315.wav",
        "text": "同時就有包含主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1316.wav",
        "text": "跟副主委的職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1317.wav",
        "text": "所以當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1318.wav",
        "text": "屆期任滿的時候提前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1319.wav",
        "text": "辭職的時候我個人認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1320.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關它是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1321.wav",
        "text": "合議的機關它也是一個獨立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1322.wav",
        "text": "機關所以我們更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1323.wav",
        "text": "應該比照中選會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1324.wav",
        "text": "互相推任選出自己的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1325.wav",
        "text": "主委跟副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1326.wav",
        "text": "以上是我在第4條跟第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1327.wav",
        "text": "的意見謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1328.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤委員發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1329.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我想這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1330.wav",
        "text": "條文在審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1331.wav",
        "text": "的時候也多次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1332.wav",
        "text": "來論述提出我的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1333.wav",
        "text": "所以很多雷同的論述我就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1334.wav",
        "text": "不再贅述我就講精要的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1335.wav",
        "text": "第一個NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1336.wav",
        "text": "既然作為獨立機關它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1337.wav",
        "text": "獨立運作的獨立性是非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1338.wav",
        "text": "應當受到政治的干預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1339.wav",
        "text": "所以要捍衛NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1340.wav",
        "text": "一個獨立機關的獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1341.wav",
        "text": "第二個NCC所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1342.wav",
        "text": "掌理的事物事涉專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1343.wav",
        "text": "由專業人士來出任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1344.wav",
        "text": "讓政治來干預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1345.wav",
        "text": "專業所以基於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1346.wav",
        "text": "獨立性跟專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1347.wav",
        "text": "我們都應當來維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1348.wav",
        "text": "現行的條文而不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1349.wav",
        "text": "應該回到過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1350.wav",
        "text": "被613號大法官解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1351.wav",
        "text": "已經推翻失效的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1352.wav",
        "text": "讓它再借"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1353.wav",
        "text": "屍還魂再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1354.wav",
        "text": "死灰復燃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1355.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個面向講到憲法所規範的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1356.wav",
        "text": "人事權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1357.wav",
        "text": "人事的任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1358.wav",
        "text": "是行政權的核心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1359.wav",
        "text": "所以行政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1360.wav",
        "text": "來任命人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1361.wav",
        "text": "立法院能夠行使的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1362.wav",
        "text": "依憲法所賦予的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1363.wav",
        "text": "職責是同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1364.wav",
        "text": "所以在憲法的精神下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1365.wav",
        "text": "如果今天的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1366.wav",
        "text": "修了那一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1367.wav",
        "text": "又回到過去被大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1368.wav",
        "text": "打臉的期期以為不可的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1369.wav",
        "text": "用立法院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1370.wav",
        "text": "戕害傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1371.wav",
        "text": "甚至取代了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1372.wav",
        "text": "行政院的人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1373.wav",
        "text": "任命權所以這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1374.wav",
        "text": "主張是非常地清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1375.wav",
        "text": "我們要對社會論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1376.wav",
        "text": "也要向在野黨的委員再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1377.wav",
        "text": "來懇請你們三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1378.wav",
        "text": "\n講到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1379.wav",
        "text": "民眾黨的版本就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1380.wav",
        "text": "用政黨比例透過審查會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1381.wav",
        "text": "其實公視的組成"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1382.wav",
        "text": "跟NCC"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1383.wav",
        "text": "獨立機構的運作完全不同"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1384.wav",
        "text": "公視的組成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1385.wav",
        "text": "它強調的"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1386.wav",
        "text": "是一個多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1387.wav",
        "text": "是一個包容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1388.wav",
        "text": "是一個平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1389.wav",
        "text": "是用政黨比例"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1390.wav",
        "text": "組成審查會這個運作"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1391.wav",
        "text": "的原始制度設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1392.wav",
        "text": "跟NCC作為"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1393.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關相當具有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1394.wav",
        "text": "專業性的行使職權"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1395.wav",
        "text": "這是大不相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1396.wav",
        "text": "所以不能夠拿來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1397.wav",
        "text": "隨便來這裡東拼西湊"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1398.wav",
        "text": "來戕害了NCC"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1399.wav",
        "text": "原本的人事組成"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1400.wav",
        "text": "及專業委員的任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1401.wav",
        "text": "\n如果要講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1402.wav",
        "text": "我想大家去google一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1403.wav",
        "text": "過去公共電視長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1404.wav",
        "text": "陷入一個透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1405.wav",
        "text": "立法院政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1406.wav",
        "text": "任命組成的審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1407.wav",
        "text": "來行使公視董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1408.wav",
        "text": "任命的相關作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1409.wav",
        "text": "所以第4屆第5屆第7屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1410.wav",
        "text": "google一下都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1411.wav",
        "text": "對不對距離現在最近的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1412.wav",
        "text": "第7屆是延宕了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1413.wav",
        "text": "957天"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1414.wav",
        "text": "\n我過去在教育文化委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1415.wav",
        "text": "我監督的主要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1416.wav",
        "text": "部門就是文化部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1417.wav",
        "text": "所有的立法委員不分朝野"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1418.wav",
        "text": "永遠想要去排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1419.wav",
        "text": "想要去解決"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1420.wav",
        "text": "公共電視的董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1421.wav",
        "text": "受限於一個用政黨比例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1422.wav",
        "text": "組成的委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1423.wav",
        "text": "而遲遲沒有辦法完成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1424.wav",
        "text": "董事會的改組"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1425.wav",
        "text": "導致公視在第7屆"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1426.wav",
        "text": "延宕了957天"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1427.wav",
        "text": "第5屆還好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1428.wav",
        "text": "延宕了58天"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1429.wav",
        "text": "第4屆同樣也延宕了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1430.wav",
        "text": "965天"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1431.wav",
        "text": "這都是過去的印證"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1432.wav",
        "text": "明證來告訴我們"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1433.wav",
        "text": "NCC可以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1434.wav",
        "text": "再這樣被搞下去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1435.wav",
        "text": "所以歷史的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1436.wav",
        "text": "告訴我們現在修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1437.wav",
        "text": "就要慎思"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1438.wav",
        "text": "就要深思"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1439.wav",
        "text": "\n好剛剛講到萬年條款"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1440.wav",
        "text": "萬年條款只要講一件事情"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1441.wav",
        "text": "要維持NCC的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1442.wav",
        "text": "routine穩定地運作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1443.wav",
        "text": "我們當然希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1444.wav",
        "text": "立法院能夠依法定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1445.wav",
        "text": "時程去完成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1446.wav",
        "text": "人事同意權的行使"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1447.wav",
        "text": "就不會有要延任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1448.wav",
        "text": "續任的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1449.wav",
        "text": "我們希望是這個前提"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1450.wav",
        "text": "何況這一次的國會擴權法案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1451.wav",
        "text": "也看到在野黨的委員對於人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1452.wav",
        "text": "又設下了你們認為更嚴謹的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1453.wav",
        "text": "行使程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1454.wav",
        "text": "所以為了讓NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1455.wav",
        "text": "不會因此而停擺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1456.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1457.wav",
        "text": "完成人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1458.wav",
        "text": "而造成又沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1459.wav",
        "text": "hold住整個如常的運作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1460.wav",
        "text": "所以這個萬年條款"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1461.wav",
        "text": "真的也是要請提案的委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1462.wav",
        "text": "好好地深思"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1463.wav",
        "text": "\n基於這些理由我也多次論述"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1464.wav",
        "text": "但是在黨團協商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1465.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要負起職責"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1466.wav",
        "text": "所以我再一次就幾個面向"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1467.wav",
        "text": "讓NCC的運作穩健"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1468.wav",
        "text": "專業獨立"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1469.wav",
        "text": "這是我的主張"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1470.wav",
        "text": "有舉手"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1471.wav",
        "text": "那就麻煩翁委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1472.wav",
        "text": "莊委員等一下也要講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1473.wav",
        "text": "翁委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1474.wav",
        "text": "今天針對"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1475.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法第4條"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1476.wav",
        "text": "提出修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1477.wav",
        "text": "也是我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1478.wav",
        "text": "NCC成立之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1479.wav",
        "text": "到現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1480.wav",
        "text": "這麼多年來大家一直"
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        "text": "針對NCC的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1482.wav",
        "text": "獨立性提出質疑"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1483.wav",
        "text": "於現在NCC委員的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1484.wav",
        "text": "更有了高度的質疑"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1485.wav",
        "text": "NCC愈來愈不像是"
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    {
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        "text": "獨立機關事實上是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1487.wav",
        "text": "政治打手"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1488.wav",
        "text": "在野黨還有很多委員們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1489.wav",
        "text": "所關心的而且要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1490.wav",
        "text": "修正NCC組織法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1491.wav",
        "text": "最重要的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1492.wav",
        "text": "我必須再回到當時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1493.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有釋字第613號解釋的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1494.wav",
        "text": "時代背景大家不要忘記了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1495.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1496.wav",
        "text": "2005年那時候通過的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1497.wav",
        "text": "當時民進黨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1498.wav",
        "text": "的打壓"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1499.wav",
        "text": "那時候的院長是謝長廷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1500.wav",
        "text": "NCC組織法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1501.wav",
        "text": "經過很複雜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1502.wav",
        "text": "最客觀最獨立專業的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1503.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1504.wav",
        "text": "審查的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1505.wav",
        "text": "就不斷地反彈抗議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1506.wav",
        "text": "而且在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1507.wav",
        "text": "杯葛相關審查程序"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1508.wav",
        "text": "等到NCC"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1509.wav",
        "text": "正式組成之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1510.wav",
        "text": "杯葛他們的預算等種"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1511.wav",
        "text": "種種手段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1512.wav",
        "text": "第一屆NCC委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1513.wav",
        "text": "很難以運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1514.wav",
        "text": "這都是我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1515.wav",
        "text": "回顧到當時的時代背景"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1516.wav",
        "text": "\n以現在的角度來看"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1517.wav",
        "text": "其實當時的NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1518.wav",
        "text": "看起來是最能夠達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1519.wav",
        "text": "讓NCC"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1520.wav",
        "text": "成員獨立"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1521.wav",
        "text": "而且能夠反映出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1522.wav",
        "text": "可惜釋字第613號解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1523.wav",
        "text": "當時的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1524.wav",
        "text": "─也就是民進黨政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1525.wav",
        "text": "所提名的這些大法官們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1526.wav",
        "text": "告了第一版NCC組織法違憲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1527.wav",
        "text": "公法學者所批評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1528.wav",
        "text": "大法官解釋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1529.wav",
        "text": "之後是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1530.wav",
        "text": "真正地做到獨立"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1531.wav",
        "text": "的原則其實大家就有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1532.wav",
        "text": "很多討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1533.wav",
        "text": "包含將所有提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1534.wav",
        "text": "都交給行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1535.wav",
        "text": "以來到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1536.wav",
        "text": "十幾年過去了我們可以看到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1537.wav",
        "text": "之後對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1538.wav",
        "text": "幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1539.wav",
        "text": "NCC成為獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1540.wav",
        "text": "是毫無助益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1541.wav",
        "text": "反而更證實了當時"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1542.wav",
        "text": "很多憲法學者所提出來的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1543.wav",
        "text": "就是當行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1544.wav",
        "text": "擁有了全部提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1545.wav",
        "text": "之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1546.wav",
        "text": "就有可能讓整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1547.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員會沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1548.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的政治生態來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1549.wav",
        "text": "除非委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1550.wav",
        "text": "本身人格很獨立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1551.wav",
        "text": "本身對於他的職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1552.wav",
        "text": "信念知道怎麼樣能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1553.wav",
        "text": "自己個人的政治信仰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1554.wav",
        "text": "人政治看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1555.wav",
        "text": "案子的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1556.wav",
        "text": "就如同許多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1557.wav",
        "text": "公法學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1558.wav",
        "text": "所預見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1559.wav",
        "text": "的所預測的我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1560.wav",
        "text": "確實是無法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1561.wav",
        "text": "再維持它的獨立性跟它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1562.wav",
        "text": "專業性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1563.wav",
        "text": "\n回到我們剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1564.wav",
        "text": "既然要提出NCC組織法第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1565.wav",
        "text": "修正案目的當然是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1566.wav",
        "text": "能夠重建獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1567.wav",
        "text": "真正能夠往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1568.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1569.wav",
        "text": "更邁進一步獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1570.wav",
        "text": "包含機關本身是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1571.wav",
        "text": "獨立是不是還是要受到行政一體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1572.wav",
        "text": "原則的拘束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1573.wav",
        "text": "人員是不是夠獨立財務是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1574.wav",
        "text": "夠獨立這必須由好幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1575.wav",
        "text": "步驟去檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1576.wav",
        "text": "不過很可惜在現行制度底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1577.wav",
        "text": "看起來NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1578.wav",
        "text": "似乎沒有辦法達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1579.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛在上面講的這幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1580.wav",
        "text": "幾個委員所提出來的版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1581.wav",
        "text": "大概就以我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1582.wav",
        "text": "版本是跟其他委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1583.wav",
        "text": "很不相同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1584.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也看到在行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1585.wav",
        "text": "獨攬提名權的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1586.wav",
        "text": "讓NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1587.wav",
        "text": "變得更獨立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1588.wav",
        "text": "而在西方等其他國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1589.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關的人事權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1590.wav",
        "text": "或我們所稱共享提名權的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1591.wav",
        "text": "不管是在韓國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1592.wav",
        "text": "法國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1593.wav",
        "text": "德國的通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1594.wav",
        "text": "由行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1595.wav",
        "text": "法案最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1596.wav",
        "text": "就是讓整個NCC委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1597.wav",
        "text": "提名權由立院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1598.wav",
        "text": "跟行政院一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1599.wav",
        "text": "提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1600.wav",
        "text": "這樣更能夠反映出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1601.wav",
        "text": "民主政治就是政黨政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1602.wav",
        "text": "可以透過這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1603.wav",
        "text": "模式讓NCC的組成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1604.wav",
        "text": "讓大家的不同意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1605.wav",
        "text": "都能在NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1606.wav",
        "text": "這個機關裡進行表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1607.wav",
        "text": "\n當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1608.wav",
        "text": "也有其他委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1609.wav",
        "text": "當時當然也希望它是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1610.wav",
        "text": "超脫於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1611.wav",
        "text": "廣播電視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1612.wav",
        "text": "但是很可惜我們現在看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1613.wav",
        "text": "公視距離我們所想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1614.wav",
        "text": "要達成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1615.wav",
        "text": "共有公共獨立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1616.wav",
        "text": "跟NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1617.wav",
        "text": "的性質差距是不是有這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1618.wav",
        "text": "坦白說就理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1619.wav",
        "text": "來講應該都是要遠離"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1620.wav",
        "text": "國家的管制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1621.wav",
        "text": "現在公視的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1622.wav",
        "text": "採取兩階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1623.wav",
        "text": "要先成立審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1624.wav",
        "text": "候選人提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1625.wav",
        "text": "進行審查坦白說這個程序是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1626.wav",
        "text": "滿冗長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1627.wav",
        "text": "看了公視過去幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1628.wav",
        "text": "作業程序非常地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1629.wav",
        "text": "漫長而且還常常有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1630.wav",
        "text": "會造成董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1631.wav",
        "text": "選不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1632.wav",
        "text": "裡面的爭議非常之多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1633.wav",
        "text": "我認為這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1634.wav",
        "text": "也不見得是最好的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1635.wav",
        "text": "總比現在整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1636.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1637.wav",
        "text": "由行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1638.wav",
        "text": "一個人把持要來得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1639.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1640.wav",
        "text": "要廢除萬年委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1641.wav",
        "text": "這項制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1642.wav",
        "text": "這是我們大家這次在幾個版本裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1643.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員原則上就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1644.wav",
        "text": "只能連任一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1645.wav",
        "text": "並不得再連任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1646.wav",
        "text": "同時就讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1647.wav",
        "text": "已經屆期要卸任的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1648.wav",
        "text": "離開他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1649.wav",
        "text": "不需要再等待新委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1650.wav",
        "text": "補上之後才能離職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1651.wav",
        "text": "也就是廢除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1652.wav",
        "text": "卸任委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1653.wav",
        "text": "延任規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1654.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也符合責任政治的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1655.wav",
        "text": "本席的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1656.wav",
        "text": "委員人數可以再縮減"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1657.wav",
        "text": "不需要到現在的7人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1658.wav",
        "text": "\nNCC現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1659.wav",
        "text": "已經有兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1660.wav",
        "text": "重要的業務移轉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1661.wav",
        "text": "了那麼就整個NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1662.wav",
        "text": "執行的相關業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1663.wav",
        "text": "來看其實5人的規模就差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1664.wav",
        "text": "像美國的FCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1665.wav",
        "text": "但也只有5人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1666.wav",
        "text": "所以其實現在就可以再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1667.wav",
        "text": "是不是需要有7位NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1668.wav",
        "text": "我個人認為也就足夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1669.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1670.wav",
        "text": "交錯任期制部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1671.wav",
        "text": "其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1672.wav",
        "text": "是不是真的有助於讓NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1673.wav",
        "text": "更為獨立或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1674.wav",
        "text": "可以讓整個業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1675.wav",
        "text": "交接更為順利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1676.wav",
        "text": "並沒有一定像我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1677.wav",
        "text": "看到這麼多部會其實並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1678.wav",
        "text": "上任之後原來的首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1679.wav",
        "text": "才能卸任也沒有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1680.wav",
        "text": "所以對於交錯任期制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1681.wav",
        "text": "思考而且可以朝向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1682.wav",
        "text": "這方面去做所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1683.wav",
        "text": "修正規定也認為應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1684.wav",
        "text": "可以廢除交錯任期制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1685.wav",
        "text": "這並無礙於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1686.wav",
        "text": "整個NCC業務的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1687.wav",
        "text": "推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1688.wav",
        "text": "我們這次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1689.wav",
        "text": "希望透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1690.wav",
        "text": "修政NCC組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1691.wav",
        "text": "第4條規定能夠讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1692.wav",
        "text": "更多元的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1693.wav",
        "text": "進入NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1694.wav",
        "text": "而不是由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1695.wav",
        "text": "單一政黨力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1696.wav",
        "text": "完全掌控NCC的人事案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1697.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道民主政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1698.wav",
        "text": "就是多元的政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1699.wav",
        "text": "同時也是政黨政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1700.wav",
        "text": "能夠讓不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1701.wav",
        "text": "政治政見政黨力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1702.wav",
        "text": "在NCC的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1703.wav",
        "text": "我覺得其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1704.wav",
        "text": "會比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1705.wav",
        "text": "好說什麼NCC要排除政治力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1706.wav",
        "text": "結果呢排除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1707.wav",
        "text": "各個不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1708.wav",
        "text": "政治社會團體的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1709.wav",
        "text": "全部都以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1710.wav",
        "text": "執政黨的意見為意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1711.wav",
        "text": "執政黨政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1712.wav",
        "text": "打手工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1713.wav",
        "text": "其實這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1714.wav",
        "text": "並無助於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1715.wav",
        "text": "讓NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1716.wav",
        "text": "變得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1717.wav",
        "text": "\n這次在幾個版本裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1718.wav",
        "text": "包括廢除連任制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1719.wav",
        "text": "這個部分大家應該是沒有什麼意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1720.wav",
        "text": "都會支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1721.wav",
        "text": "還有廢除卸任委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1722.wav",
        "text": "延任規定這是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1723.wav",
        "text": "也有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1724.wav",
        "text": "\n至於在整個提名審查的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1725.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1726.wav",
        "text": "比較進步的而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1727.wav",
        "text": "看其他國家運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1728.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止也都是很不錯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1729.wav",
        "text": "希望大家可以參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1730.wav",
        "text": "謝謝翁委員\n請莊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1731.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1732.wav",
        "text": "各黨代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1733.wav",
        "text": "其實我聽了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1734.wav",
        "text": "很多委員的想法以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1735.wav",
        "text": "啦但是我第一個要先提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1736.wav",
        "text": "第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1737.wav",
        "text": "要離開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1738.wav",
        "text": "是不是能給陳主委幾分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1739.wav",
        "text": "讓他先說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1740.wav",
        "text": "另有要事要走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1741.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1742.wav",
        "text": "不好意思因為等一下還有總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1743.wav",
        "text": "我要去院會\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1744.wav",
        "text": "關於剛才各位委員所指教的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1745.wav",
        "text": "部分針對釋字第613號解釋我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1746.wav",
        "text": "委員都講了非常多這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1747.wav",
        "text": "我就不再贅述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1748.wav",
        "text": "要跟所有委員報告一下是關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1749.wav",
        "text": "條款啦簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1750.wav",
        "text": "來講所謂延任是延到下一屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1751.wav",
        "text": "出現以後就不可以再延任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1752.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有所謂的萬年這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1753.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝剛才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1754.wav",
        "text": "指正我們對於上次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1755.wav",
        "text": "有錯誤的地方予以更正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1756.wav",
        "text": "而且願意向大院致歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1757.wav",
        "text": "可能有錯誤就這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1758.wav",
        "text": "來講當時的國會其實也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1759.wav",
        "text": "所以是透過政黨協商作出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1760.wav",
        "text": "的過渡條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1761.wav",
        "text": "就是為了避免機關的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1762.wav",
        "text": "癱瘓的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1763.wav",
        "text": "跟各位委員報告一下本會是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1764.wav",
        "text": "合議制機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1765.wav",
        "text": "要過半出席才有辦法組成委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1766.wav",
        "text": "包括重大事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1767.wav",
        "text": "還有很多案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1768.wav",
        "text": "一年大概要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1769.wav",
        "text": "一萬六千八百多件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1770.wav",
        "text": "剛才也有委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1771.wav",
        "text": "其實不是只有這個問題而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1772.wav",
        "text": "最主要是因為我們的管制過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1773.wav",
        "text": "有很多是針對證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1774.wav",
        "text": "或執照的管制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1775.wav",
        "text": "而執照是有效期的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1776.wav",
        "text": "萬一我們的委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1777.wav",
        "text": "剩下3位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1778.wav",
        "text": "3位委員是沒有辦法組成一個合法委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1779.wav",
        "text": "進行審議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1780.wav",
        "text": "那所有案件就會delay下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1781.wav",
        "text": "如果只是暫時的器材審驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1782.wav",
        "text": "或許還可以用其他行政手段處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1783.wav",
        "text": "可是如果要審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1784.wav",
        "text": "那是沒有辦法處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1785.wav",
        "text": "本會如果萬一真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1786.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法正常運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1787.wav",
        "text": "對於整個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1788.wav",
        "text": "尤其是通訊傳播產業會構成重大的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1789.wav",
        "text": "我們跟監察院不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1790.wav",
        "text": "我們是行政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1791.wav",
        "text": "不是只有新聞臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1792.wav",
        "text": "還有各個頻道我們有三百多個頻道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1793.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1794.wav",
        "text": "待會請莊委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1795.wav",
        "text": "\n因為有委員是第二次發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1796.wav",
        "text": "那就儘量簡短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1797.wav",
        "text": "是儘量簡短不是不給發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1798.wav",
        "text": "啦各位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1799.wav",
        "text": "我必須特別指出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1800.wav",
        "text": "按照整個國家通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1801.wav",
        "text": "組織法第10條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1802.wav",
        "text": "第4款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1803.wav",
        "text": "本來就提及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1804.wav",
        "text": "任滿前三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1805.wav",
        "text": "其實是沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1806.wav",
        "text": "的大家不應該說三道四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1807.wav",
        "text": "提名完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1808.wav",
        "text": "到底要不要重新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1809.wav",
        "text": "這點我尊重大家的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1810.wav",
        "text": "\n另外關於所謂的過渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1811.wav",
        "text": "不會啦這是一個過渡條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1812.wav",
        "text": "你說萬年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1813.wav",
        "text": "你說一直過渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1814.wav",
        "text": "在野黨全部都一直杯葛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1815.wav",
        "text": "只要是執政黨提出來全部都不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1816.wav",
        "text": "一直杯葛一直杯葛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1817.wav",
        "text": "也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1818.wav",
        "text": "啦大家的形容詞都形容得比較好聽一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1819.wav",
        "text": "比較誇大了一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1820.wav",
        "text": "沒有一個政黨可以執政萬年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1821.wav",
        "text": "人也沒辦法活一萬年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1822.wav",
        "text": "之後一直在想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1823.wav",
        "text": "所以也爬梳了2005年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1824.wav",
        "text": "好多條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1825.wav",
        "text": "不會打架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1826.wav",
        "text": "呢就是針對NCC這個條文打架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1827.wav",
        "text": "媒體評論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1828.wav",
        "text": "是說NCC管的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1829.wav",
        "text": "不僅是從新聞局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1830.wav",
        "text": "接手的廣播電視業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1831.wav",
        "text": "連交通部管的郵電電信業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1832.wav",
        "text": "也一併給NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1833.wav",
        "text": "這塊政治敏感版圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1834.wav",
        "text": "大家分一分以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1835.wav",
        "text": "政黨的手全部都會進到媒體裡面去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1836.wav",
        "text": "當初大家評論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1837.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1838.wav",
        "text": "各政黨依政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1839.wav",
        "text": "放進去就是這個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1840.wav",
        "text": "當然也可以解讀成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1841.wav",
        "text": "會符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1842.wav",
        "text": "監督與制衡的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1843.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛翁委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1844.wav",
        "text": "政黨政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1845.wav",
        "text": "大家分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1846.wav",
        "text": "其實我倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1847.wav",
        "text": "是對於這一點比較訝異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1848.wav",
        "text": "啦政黨政治其實就是責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1849.wav",
        "text": "啊以我們的現行體制來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1850.wav",
        "text": "政黨政治如果是責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1851.wav",
        "text": "所以我比較難想像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1852.wav",
        "text": "我反而會認為立法院通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1853.wav",
        "text": "不管經過幾輪通過就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1854.wav",
        "text": "這些委員可以怎麼樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1855.wav",
        "text": "人選就可以幫忙擔保他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1856.wav",
        "text": "事後如何嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1857.wav",
        "text": "還是必須回歸到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1858.wav",
        "text": "責任政治裡面就是所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1859.wav",
        "text": "政黨政治就看誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1860.wav",
        "text": "屬於行政權者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1861.wav",
        "text": "者到最後如果出了事情責任歸誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1862.wav",
        "text": "當然是歸提名的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1863.wav",
        "text": "啊如果讓大家來一起分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1864.wav",
        "text": "分享到最後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1865.wav",
        "text": "哪一個政黨提名出來的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1866.wav",
        "text": "到最後出了問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1867.wav",
        "text": "執政黨總不能說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1868.wav",
        "text": "而是國民黨提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1869.wav",
        "text": "或者是哪一黨提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1870.wav",
        "text": "民進黨執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1871.wav",
        "text": "下提名的人出問題當然是民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1872.wav",
        "text": "這個執政黨必須負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1873.wav",
        "text": "啊哪一個黨執政對於提名的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1874.wav",
        "text": "當然都必須負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1875.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我反而覺得在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1876.wav",
        "text": "整個責任政治下這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1877.wav",
        "text": "在其他部分光是傅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1878.wav",
        "text": "是傅崐萁委員就有兩個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1879.wav",
        "text": "啊他就一直修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1880.wav",
        "text": "反而是李彥秀跟賴士葆委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1881.wav",
        "text": "看起來變動其實沒有那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1882.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛又聽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1883.wav",
        "text": "啦就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1884.wav",
        "text": "這些人選由行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1885.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1886.wav",
        "text": "關於怎麼做審核還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1887.wav",
        "text": "他又設置了一些委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1888.wav",
        "text": "而鍾佳濱委員的看法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1889.wav",
        "text": "解釋整個脈絡看下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1890.wav",
        "text": "他認為要分三段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1891.wav",
        "text": "這三塊裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1892.wav",
        "text": "那麼我看今天可能就比較難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1893.wav",
        "text": "上一屆院長也就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1894.wav",
        "text": "陳院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1895.wav",
        "text": "依法提出這些人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1896.wav",
        "text": "已經是看守內閣了還提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1897.wav",
        "text": "可能大家今天就比較不容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1898.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的聽起來好像大家對於這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1899.wav",
        "text": "對就是第二輪縮短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1900.wav",
        "text": "但那邊還有一位第一輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1901.wav",
        "text": "我可以先走了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1902.wav",
        "text": "我不講可以先走了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1903.wav",
        "text": "可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1904.wav",
        "text": "我簡短講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1905.wav",
        "text": "我聽了瑞雄與佳濱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1906.wav",
        "text": "聽起來似乎也不無道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1907.wav",
        "text": "但我還是要堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1908.wav",
        "text": "的我要將我的版本告訴你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1909.wav",
        "text": "我跟洪孟楷委員共4人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1910.wav",
        "text": "也提出一項修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1911.wav",
        "text": "在我們的修正動議中第一個當然就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1912.wav",
        "text": "剛剛大家一直講的連任這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1913.wav",
        "text": "對於連任一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1914.wav",
        "text": "大家應該都有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1915.wav",
        "text": "啦這裡不會有意見我剛才也很少聽到你們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1916.wav",
        "text": "對連任一次這部分有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1917.wav",
        "text": "所以對於連任一次這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1918.wav",
        "text": "應該大家都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1919.wav",
        "text": "可以由各政黨推薦人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1920.wav",
        "text": "我想我們的修正動議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1921.wav",
        "text": "由行政院及政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1922.wav",
        "text": "按專長領域及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1923.wav",
        "text": "實務經驗各推薦7名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1924.wav",
        "text": "行政院推薦7位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1925.wav",
        "text": "這個政黨也推薦7位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1926.wav",
        "text": "推薦14位出來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1927.wav",
        "text": "再由行政院組成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1928.wav",
        "text": "提名審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1929.wav",
        "text": "審查審查委員會由行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1930.wav",
        "text": "推薦3名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1931.wav",
        "text": "還有各政黨依其在立法院所占"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1932.wav",
        "text": "席次比例推薦8名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1933.wav",
        "text": "學者總共11名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1934.wav",
        "text": "字第613號所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1935.wav",
        "text": "其實我們之所以有這樣的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1936.wav",
        "text": "到底能不能夠監督制衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1937.wav",
        "text": "我看釋字第613號解釋也提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1938.wav",
        "text": "其實立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1939.wav",
        "text": "固然有監督制衡的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1940.wav",
        "text": "力也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1941.wav",
        "text": "制衡的權力只是不能實質地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1942.wav",
        "text": "的人事任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1943.wav",
        "text": "或進而取代之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1944.wav",
        "text": "力而我們這個設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1945.wav",
        "text": "行政院推薦7位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1946.wav",
        "text": "因為委員本來就是7個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1947.wav",
        "text": "政黨又依比例推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1948.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會依照政黨比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1949.wav",
        "text": "而且行政院可以推薦3個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1950.wav",
        "text": "那另外8個人我們算一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1951.wav",
        "text": "現在人數跟我們差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1952.wav",
        "text": "分配這樣算起來審查委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1953.wav",
        "text": "還是執政黨的人比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1954.wav",
        "text": "你們至少占6位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1955.wav",
        "text": "在野黨則只有5位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1956.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要發揮一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1957.wav",
        "text": "監督制衡的力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1958.wav",
        "text": "對於行政院提名的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1959.wav",
        "text": "所以照這樣的設計看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1960.wav",
        "text": "其實我是覺得沒有違憲的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1961.wav",
        "text": "啦如果你對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1962.wav",
        "text": "我們主張審查委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1963.wav",
        "text": "我們還可以討論啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1964.wav",
        "text": "推薦的人數要多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1965.wav",
        "text": "對於這樣的設計我是覺得符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1966.wav",
        "text": "釋字第613號解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1967.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我們才會作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1968.wav",
        "text": "任期屆滿到底得不得延任的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1969.wav",
        "text": "渡時期應該不會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1970.wav",
        "text": "但是以我們現在看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1971.wav",
        "text": "很多事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1972.wav",
        "text": "就是可能會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1973.wav",
        "text": "啦所以就規定清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1974.wav",
        "text": "嘛把不能延任規定清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1975.wav",
        "text": "就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1976.wav",
        "text": "啦所以對於延任的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1977.wav",
        "text": "我相信執"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1978.wav",
        "text": "執政黨佳濱你們同意吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1979.wav",
        "text": "好我們要簡短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1980.wav",
        "text": "三個重點第一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1981.wav",
        "text": "所謂獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1982.wav",
        "text": "由立法院行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1983.wav",
        "text": "就夠了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1984.wav",
        "text": "還是必須在提名過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1985.wav",
        "text": "加入一個由各政黨比例構成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1986.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1987.wav",
        "text": "中介之審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1988.wav",
        "text": "第二個問題是所謂的萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1989.wav",
        "text": "還是延任條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1990.wav",
        "text": "是延任條款還是萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1991.wav",
        "text": "第三個問題就是任期交錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1992.wav",
        "text": "任期的半半交錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1993.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有它的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1994.wav",
        "text": "我想我們今天就設定在這三個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1995.wav",
        "text": "\n首先中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1996.wav",
        "text": "憲法本文第8條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1997.wav",
        "text": "規定法官必須超出黨派之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1998.wav",
        "text": "獨立行使職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/1999.wav",
        "text": "包含司法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2000.wav",
        "text": "監察委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2001.wav",
        "text": "有沒有超出黨派獨立行使職權呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2002.wav",
        "text": "一直到憲法增修條文才規定考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2003.wav",
        "text": "跟監察委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2004.wav",
        "text": "必須超出黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2005.wav",
        "text": "獨立行使職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2006.wav",
        "text": "指名要超出黨派的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2007.wav",
        "text": "除了這三個機關之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2008.wav",
        "text": "就是中華民國國軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2009.wav",
        "text": "超越黨派效忠國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2010.wav",
        "text": "好了我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2011.wav",
        "text": "連憲法本文規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2012.wav",
        "text": "必須獨立行使職權的大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2013.wav",
        "text": "由總統提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2014.wav",
        "text": "送交立法院行使同意之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2015.wav",
        "text": "也就足夠獨立啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2016.wav",
        "text": "一手提名的但坦白說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2017.wav",
        "text": "配合憲法增修條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2018.wav",
        "text": "每一個總統只要任滿8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2019.wav",
        "text": "15名大法官全部提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2020.wav",
        "text": "都由同一個總統提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2021.wav",
        "text": "這15名大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2022.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法獨立行使職權嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2023.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2024.wav",
        "text": "除了制度上的保障之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2025.wav",
        "text": "還有就是立法院同意權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2026.wav",
        "text": "只要立法院行使人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2027.wav",
        "text": "提名機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2028.wav",
        "text": "所提名的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2029.wav",
        "text": "勢必要通過民意機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2030.wav",
        "text": "同意權的行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2031.wav",
        "text": "有其獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2032.wav",
        "text": "大法官是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2033.wav",
        "text": "考試委員是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2034.wav",
        "text": "監察委員也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2035.wav",
        "text": "沒有理由中選會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2036.wav",
        "text": "還有NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2037.wav",
        "text": "一定要再透過中介的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2038.wav",
        "text": "以政黨比例組成的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2039.wav",
        "text": "審查委員會進行審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2040.wav",
        "text": "不管最後是按照這個名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2041.wav",
        "text": "交付立法院行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2042.wav",
        "text": "行政院長參酌之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2043.wav",
        "text": "都完完全全沒有這個必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2044.wav",
        "text": "釋字第613號就是講這個道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2045.wav",
        "text": "簡單講就是這個道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2046.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2047.wav",
        "text": "或憲法規定必須獨立行使職權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2048.wav",
        "text": "憲政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2049.wav",
        "text": "經過人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2050.wav",
        "text": "在立法院行使之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2051.wav",
        "text": "就能夠遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2052.wav",
        "text": "並有效地依法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2053.wav",
        "text": "行使職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2054.wav",
        "text": "\n第二到底是延任條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2055.wav",
        "text": "還是萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2056.wav",
        "text": "包含國民大會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2057.wav",
        "text": "萬年國會是黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2058.wav",
        "text": "等諸多委員年輕學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2059.wav",
        "text": "時代反萬年國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2060.wav",
        "text": "時第一個撻伐的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2061.wav",
        "text": "1990年釋字第261號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2062.wav",
        "text": "6年改選一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2063.wav",
        "text": "次屆開會前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2064.wav",
        "text": "有沒有成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2065.wav",
        "text": "萬年條款沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2066.wav",
        "text": "啊連違憲都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2067.wav",
        "text": "啊真正讓萬年國會產生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2068.wav",
        "text": "講的是立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2069.wav",
        "text": "講的是監察院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2070.wav",
        "text": "講到每三年每六年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2071.wav",
        "text": "改選的監察委員與立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2072.wav",
        "text": "當時因為國家遭逢重大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2073.wav",
        "text": "變故沒辦法定期改選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2074.wav",
        "text": "不得不讓他們繼續延任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2075.wav",
        "text": "但是釋字第261號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2076.wav",
        "text": "解釋也寫即使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2077.wav",
        "text": "國家遭逢變故也不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2078.wav",
        "text": "讓他們繼續地延任下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2079.wav",
        "text": "所以針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2080.wav",
        "text": "國民大會作了如上解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2081.wav",
        "text": "本來國民大會的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2082.wav",
        "text": "可以到下屆開會前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2083.wav",
        "text": "這本來就是可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2084.wav",
        "text": "但是基於民意機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2085.wav",
        "text": "基於政權機關有定期改選的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2086.wav",
        "text": "所以也沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2087.wav",
        "text": "讓他們可以無限期地延任下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2088.wav",
        "text": "\n民意機關政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2089.wav",
        "text": "機關定期改選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2090.wav",
        "text": "不管是講立法院講當時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2091.wav",
        "text": "監察院或講國民大會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2092.wav",
        "text": "都是因為他們的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2093.wav",
        "text": "他們的成員是透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2094.wav",
        "text": "與人民的契約有任期的明白規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2095.wav",
        "text": "NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2096.wav",
        "text": "中選會委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2097.wav",
        "text": "不是基於與人民打的選舉契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2098.wav",
        "text": "四年一任或幾年一任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2099.wav",
        "text": "而是代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2100.wav",
        "text": "國家獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2101.wav",
        "text": "行使公權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2102.wav",
        "text": "這裡的延任條款事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2103.wav",
        "text": "就是要避免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2104.wav",
        "text": "因為缺額人數無法過半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2105.wav",
        "text": "以致無法持續行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2106.wav",
        "text": "職權這點不獨NCC如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2107.wav",
        "text": "公平交易委員會也是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2108.wav",
        "text": "所以這是延任條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2109.wav",
        "text": "還是萬年條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2110.wav",
        "text": "我想我就不再斗膽地加以延伸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2111.wav",
        "text": "是可以運作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2112.wav",
        "text": "\n最後一到底任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2113.wav",
        "text": "半半交錯這樣可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2114.wav",
        "text": "在這裡跟翁委員作一個分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2115.wav",
        "text": "個人過去在地方政府擔任副首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2116.wav",
        "text": "有線電視費率審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2117.wav",
        "text": "我們的費率審議委員會制定規則的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2118.wav",
        "text": "就規定每位委員只能作兩任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2119.wav",
        "text": "因為涉及費率審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2120.wav",
        "text": "非常敏感壓力很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2121.wav",
        "text": "業者非常關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2122.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也明白地在會裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2123.wav",
        "text": "透過自然形成的慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2124.wav",
        "text": "每次改任都改任一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2125.wav",
        "text": "確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2126.wav",
        "text": "任期交錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2127.wav",
        "text": "新舊經驗傳承"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2128.wav",
        "text": "大法官有沒有這個制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2129.wav",
        "text": "大法官15名分為七人組與八人組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2130.wav",
        "text": "當年就是一組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2131.wav",
        "text": "任期4年一組2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2132.wav",
        "text": "藉此讓他們任期交錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2133.wav",
        "text": "很可惜後來在馬總統任內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2134.wav",
        "text": "由於他新提名補提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2135.wav",
        "text": "大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2136.wav",
        "text": "並沒有做至原任期屆滿為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2137.wav",
        "text": "導致其任期重新計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2138.wav",
        "text": "半半交錯變成犬齒交錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2139.wav",
        "text": "真的認為NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2140.wav",
        "text": "半半交錯制要予以確認的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2141.wav",
        "text": "我們或許可以思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2142.wav",
        "text": "可以再納入這樣的可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2143.wav",
        "text": "3名和4名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2144.wav",
        "text": "不能提任時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2145.wav",
        "text": "他們延任會吃到下一任委員的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2146.wav",
        "text": "如果下一任還沒產生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2147.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能確保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2148.wav",
        "text": "半半交錯可以運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2149.wav",
        "text": "當然這不是絕對地必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2150.wav",
        "text": "我沒有主張一定要如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2151.wav",
        "text": "但如果考量到經驗傳承"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2152.wav",
        "text": "任期原來的設計是半半交錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2153.wav",
        "text": "就必須在設有延任條款的同時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2154.wav",
        "text": "予以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2155.wav",
        "text": "在延任的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2156.wav",
        "text": "之後再提名任命的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2157.wav",
        "text": "任期重新起算4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2158.wav",
        "text": "這個半半交錯制就無法維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2159.wav",
        "text": "\n以上供各位朝野黨派委員參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2160.wav",
        "text": "有3個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2161.wav",
        "text": "第一所謂的審查委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2162.wav",
        "text": "並不足以保障獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2163.wav",
        "text": "獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2164.wav",
        "text": "也不需要藉由黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2165.wav",
        "text": "比例產生的審查會確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2166.wav",
        "text": "第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2167.wav",
        "text": "所謂的延任條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2168.wav",
        "text": "如果是為獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2169.wav",
        "text": "不間斷地行使職權之必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2170.wav",
        "text": "可以參考釋字第261號解釋的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2171.wav",
        "text": "有不得不中斷的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2172.wav",
        "text": "可以參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2173.wav",
        "text": "第三任期半半交錯制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2174.wav",
        "text": "如果真的要確保有其必要的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2175.wav",
        "text": "那延任制跟任期半半交錯制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2176.wav",
        "text": "避免延任制破壞了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2177.wav",
        "text": "任期半半交錯制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2178.wav",
        "text": "這一點本席可以考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2179.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n麻煩吳委員速度快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2180.wav",
        "text": "您是留學德國的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2181.wav",
        "text": "我雖然沒有留學德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2182.wav",
        "text": "但是我有一些常識性的判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2183.wav",
        "text": "要清楚地反駁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2184.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛提到這次NCC組織法修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2185.wav",
        "text": "借鏡跟學習德國的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2186.wav",
        "text": "因為就德國的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2187.wav",
        "text": "他們可以把權力與立法機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2188.wav",
        "text": "分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2189.wav",
        "text": "這不是廢話嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2190.wav",
        "text": "合一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2191.wav",
        "text": "內閣官員就是國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2192.wav",
        "text": "啊臺灣是什麼制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2193.wav",
        "text": "呢臺灣是雙首長制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2194.wav",
        "text": "啊臺灣不是內閣制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2195.wav",
        "text": "啊怎麼會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2196.wav",
        "text": "就風馬牛不相及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2197.wav",
        "text": "把一個制度拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2198.wav",
        "text": "類比說德國可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2199.wav",
        "text": "共享權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2200.wav",
        "text": "所以臺灣NCC委員的提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2201.wav",
        "text": "跟任命就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2202.wav",
        "text": "讓立法院主導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2203.wav",
        "text": "或取代行政院的人事權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2204.wav",
        "text": "這完全是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2205.wav",
        "text": "錯置的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2206.wav",
        "text": "完全就是一個錯誤的比喻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2207.wav",
        "text": "\n第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2208.wav",
        "text": "類似NCC的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2209.wav",
        "text": "是什麼翁委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2210.wav",
        "text": "德國類似NCC的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2211.wav",
        "text": "是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2212.wav",
        "text": "你要回答嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2213.wav",
        "text": "你要不要先回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2214.wav",
        "text": "好吧那我先向你洩題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2215.wav",
        "text": "德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2216.wav",
        "text": "在中央是FNA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2217.wav",
        "text": "FederalNetworkAgency"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2218.wav",
        "text": "德國聯邦網路局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2219.wav",
        "text": "它過去曾經是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2220.wav",
        "text": "電信郵政管理局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2221.wav",
        "text": "電信郵政鐵路現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2222.wav",
        "text": "它的管轄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2223.wav",
        "text": "所以對於廣播電視事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2224.wav",
        "text": "就我所知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2225.wav",
        "text": "應當是由各邦處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2226.wav",
        "text": "獨立的NCC全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2227.wav",
        "text": "狀況也不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2228.wav",
        "text": "OK這是我的理解我不一定完全正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2229.wav",
        "text": "但這是我的理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2230.wav",
        "text": "\n我現在要回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2231.wav",
        "text": "也就是今天的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2232.wav",
        "text": "完全是基於在野黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2233.wav",
        "text": "認為也相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2234.wav",
        "text": "政治是可以凌駕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2235.wav",
        "text": "專業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2236.wav",
        "text": "就是建構在一個很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2237.wav",
        "text": "歧異點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2238.wav",
        "text": "上也因為在野黨委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2239.wav",
        "text": "不相信行政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2240.wav",
        "text": "不相信行政權的任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2241.wav",
        "text": "所以認為由立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2242.wav",
        "text": "自己來取代行政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2243.wav",
        "text": "自己來任命會比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2244.wav",
        "text": "行政院的任命更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2245.wav",
        "text": "這是你們的命題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2246.wav",
        "text": "第二在野黨委員的命題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2247.wav",
        "text": "你們不相信大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2248.wav",
        "text": "因為你們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2249.wav",
        "text": "大法官過去這幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2250.wav",
        "text": "是蔡政府所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2251.wav",
        "text": "提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2252.wav",
        "text": "但你們都略而不談這是國會行使的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2253.wav",
        "text": "同意權喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2254.wav",
        "text": "你們認為因為是蔡英文任命的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2255.wav",
        "text": "所以這些大法官都有民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2256.wav",
        "text": "大法官的釋憲解釋你們都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2257.wav",
        "text": "不採信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2258.wav",
        "text": "在這個重大歧異的前提下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2259.wav",
        "text": "你們就是不相信國家的憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2260.wav",
        "text": "如果在這個基本的前提上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2261.wav",
        "text": "有這麼大的分歧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2262.wav",
        "text": "我覺得真的很難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2263.wav",
        "text": "在這個地方繼續對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2264.wav",
        "text": "你們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2265.wav",
        "text": "如果是現在行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2266.wav",
        "text": "提名的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2267.wav",
        "text": "就必然是民進黨介入的政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2268.wav",
        "text": "打手而你們認為這樣不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2269.wav",
        "text": "所以乾脆就開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2270.wav",
        "text": "各黨在立法院各政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2271.wav",
        "text": "都派自己的打手來好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2272.wav",
        "text": "用政治來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2273.wav",
        "text": "介入專業這樣對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2274.wav",
        "text": "不相信民進黨好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2275.wav",
        "text": "也不要不相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2276.wav",
        "text": "自己現在是國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2277.wav",
        "text": "多數啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2278.wav",
        "text": "任命但是要經立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2279.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2280.wav",
        "text": "而現在的國會多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2281.wav",
        "text": "是藍白陣營啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2282.wav",
        "text": "如果都奠基於不相信別人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2283.wav",
        "text": "只相信自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2284.wav",
        "text": "自己最大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2285.wav",
        "text": "自己最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2286.wav",
        "text": "自己任命的就是絕對的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2287.wav",
        "text": "自己任命的就是絕對的多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2288.wav",
        "text": "那我覺得很難對話下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2289.wav",
        "text": "在各個議案上都會這樣有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2290.wav",
        "text": "很大的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2291.wav",
        "text": "奉勸一句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2292.wav",
        "text": "就算不相信別人也要相信自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2293.wav",
        "text": "現在的國會多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2294.wav",
        "text": "是國民黨跟民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2295.wav",
        "text": "的合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2296.wav",
        "text": "任何人事任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2297.wav",
        "text": "也都要經過你們這一關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2298.wav",
        "text": "制度面的遊戲規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2299.wav",
        "text": "任意破壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2300.wav",
        "text": "就如我常常在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2301.wav",
        "text": "的制度是永續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2302.wav",
        "text": "不論誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2303.wav",
        "text": "這個制度都要永續下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2304.wav",
        "text": "哪一天也有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2305.wav",
        "text": "未來的執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2306.wav",
        "text": "可能也會政黨輪替"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2307.wav",
        "text": "這都是臺灣民主的常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2308.wav",
        "text": "若因為現在你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2309.wav",
        "text": "不相信民進黨的行政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2310.wav",
        "text": "要用立法院的政黨比例制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2311.wav",
        "text": "來打破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2312.wav",
        "text": "現在既有很穩定運作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2313.wav",
        "text": "狀態跟制度設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2314.wav",
        "text": "我認為這樣真是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2315.wav",
        "text": "過度地政治化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2316.wav",
        "text": "我也自覺是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2317.wav",
        "text": "但這是為了作成紀錄\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2318.wav",
        "text": "現行法條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2319.wav",
        "text": "是經過非常多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2320.wav",
        "text": "檢驗運行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2321.wav",
        "text": "也經過大法官的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2322.wav",
        "text": "讓過去違憲的條文失效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2323.wav",
        "text": "切莫再重蹈覆轍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2324.wav",
        "text": "不要再一次站在憲法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2325.wav",
        "text": "對立面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2326.wav",
        "text": "而不是穩定運作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2327.wav",
        "text": "專業獨立機關NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2328.wav",
        "text": "好嗎謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2329.wav",
        "text": "還有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2330.wav",
        "text": "我想要再補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2331.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣現在是雙首長制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2332.wav",
        "text": "一無可取之處都不值得學習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2333.wav",
        "text": "我沒有說一無可取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2334.wav",
        "text": "我是說不能全盤移植"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2335.wav",
        "text": "copy好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2336.wav",
        "text": "好\n我現在要講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2337.wav",
        "text": "德國還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2338.wav",
        "text": "有很多地方不管在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2339.wav",
        "text": "司法法制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2340.wav",
        "text": "在各個領域上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2341.wav",
        "text": "措施都是非常值得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2342.wav",
        "text": "我們去學習的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2343.wav",
        "text": "為什麼人家是個民主成熟的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2344.wav",
        "text": "為什麼人家在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2345.wav",
        "text": "通訊傳播事業的監理上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2346.wav",
        "text": "沒有出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2347.wav",
        "text": "受到民眾這麼多質疑認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2348.wav",
        "text": "高度政治化的狀況就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2349.wav",
        "text": "他們的制度設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2350.wav",
        "text": "良善所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2351.wav",
        "text": "減少了人民的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2352.wav",
        "text": "\n剛剛講到德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2353.wav",
        "text": "媒體方面的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2354.wav",
        "text": "廣電媒體事務就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2355.wav",
        "text": "由各邦主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2356.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2357.wav",
        "text": "他們在地方上的主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2358.wav",
        "text": "機構叫作Landesmedienanstalt"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2359.wav",
        "text": "en就是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2360.wav",
        "text": "合議制機構在法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2361.wav",
        "text": "社會政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2362.wav",
        "text": "議會同意任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2363.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2364.wav",
        "text": "在德國的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2365.wav",
        "text": "上就是這麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2366.wav",
        "text": "至於您剛剛說的在聯邦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2367.wav",
        "text": "的中央體制下叫做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2368.wav",
        "text": "聯邦網路總署的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2369.wav",
        "text": "不負責廣電媒體事務的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2370.wav",
        "text": "錯是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2371.wav",
        "text": "人家在法律裡面規定得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2372.wav",
        "text": "清清楚楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2373.wav",
        "text": "沒有像我們是完全由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2374.wav",
        "text": "全部的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2375.wav",
        "text": "\n我今天要講的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2376.wav",
        "text": "民主制度就是個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2377.wav",
        "text": "權力分立互相制衡的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2378.wav",
        "text": "代表立法權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2379.wav",
        "text": "本來就有這個義務責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2380.wav",
        "text": "監督行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2381.wav",
        "text": "權力分立原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2382.wav",
        "text": "裡面所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2383.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫制衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2384.wav",
        "text": "行政院提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2385.wav",
        "text": "阿貓阿狗我都照單全收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2386.wav",
        "text": "這叫做尊重嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2387.wav",
        "text": "這樣我可以完全信任嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2388.wav",
        "text": "不該曲解為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2389.wav",
        "text": "我們作為在野黨立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2390.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2391.wav",
        "text": "就不相信你們所提名的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2392.wav",
        "text": "如果你們提名的是夠專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2393.wav",
        "text": "從前幾年的經驗來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2394.wav",
        "text": "我們就看不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2395.wav",
        "text": "你們所提名的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2396.wav",
        "text": "會讓社會大眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2397.wav",
        "text": "認為他們是獨立客觀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2398.wav",
        "text": "在行使職權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2399.wav",
        "text": "立法司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2400.wav",
        "text": "考試監察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2401.wav",
        "text": "這幾個重要的權力機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2402.wav",
        "text": "之間大家是動態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2403.wav",
        "text": "合作動態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2404.wav",
        "text": "制衡的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2405.wav",
        "text": "一直杯葛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2406.wav",
        "text": "其他權力機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2407.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2408.wav",
        "text": "所做的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2409.wav",
        "text": "那麼行政院就不會提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2410.wav",
        "text": "覆議啦問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2411.wav",
        "text": "從他們現在提出覆議的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2412.wav",
        "text": "啊根本沒有站得住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2413.wav",
        "text": "我看不出什麼堅強的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2414.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我一再呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2415.wav",
        "text": "新國會要有新氣象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2416.wav",
        "text": "跟新政府之間要有新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2417.wav",
        "text": "互動關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2418.wav",
        "text": "我要再次強調我們今天修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2419.wav",
        "text": "通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2420.wav",
        "text": "組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2421.wav",
        "text": "建立更好的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2422.wav",
        "text": "不管未來誰執政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2423.wav",
        "text": "我們都期待這個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2424.wav",
        "text": "能夠受到人民信賴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2425.wav",
        "text": "大家會相信它是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2426.wav",
        "text": "獨立行使職權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2427.wav",
        "text": "吳委員請簡短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2428.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我簡短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2429.wav",
        "text": "剛剛這位留學德國的翁曉玲委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2430.wav",
        "text": "怎麼在講到德國制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2431.wav",
        "text": "時就非常支支吾吾跟詞窮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2432.wav",
        "text": "但至少你也驗證了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2433.wav",
        "text": "吳思瑤的說法沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2434.wav",
        "text": "我從頭到尾都在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2435.wav",
        "text": "不同的制度臺灣是雙首長制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2436.wav",
        "text": "德國是內閣制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2437.wav",
        "text": "制度不能直接拿來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2438.wav",
        "text": "複製貼上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2439.wav",
        "text": "我的意思就是要告訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2440.wav",
        "text": "你們這次在野黨不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2441.wav",
        "text": "對於各國的制度都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2442.wav",
        "text": "喜歡剪下複製貼上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2443.wav",
        "text": "而沒有思考整個權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2444.wav",
        "text": "運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2445.wav",
        "text": "包括你們常常在講美國制怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2446.wav",
        "text": "但事實上制度就不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2447.wav",
        "text": "嘛五權憲法三權憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2448.wav",
        "text": "就是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2449.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以針對剛剛我對您提出來的挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2450.wav",
        "text": "您也沒有辦法回應我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2451.wav",
        "text": "德國制度人家可以權力分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2452.wav",
        "text": "是因為它就是內閣制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2453.wav",
        "text": "嘛行政立法就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2454.wav",
        "text": "國會議員跟內閣閣員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2455.wav",
        "text": "一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2456.wav",
        "text": "FNA也好或是各邦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2457.wav",
        "text": "也好你剛剛的講法都驗證了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2458.wav",
        "text": "我也是做足功課來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2459.wav",
        "text": "\n那現在回到本題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2460.wav",
        "text": "──checkandbalance"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2461.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛講了很多次checkandbalance──制衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2462.wav",
        "text": "制衡在我們的制度設計上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2463.wav",
        "text": "在NCC的人事任命上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2464.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的憲政基礎上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2465.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2466.wav",
        "text": "行政權擁有任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2467.wav",
        "text": "立法權行使同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2468.wav",
        "text": "這就是臺灣憲政規範下的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2469.wav",
        "text": "checkandbalance"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2470.wav",
        "text": "就是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2471.wav",
        "text": "不是你們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2472.wav",
        "text": "成為國會多數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2473.wav",
        "text": "你們就認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2474.wav",
        "text": "你們可以把行政權的任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2475.wav",
        "text": "拿到成為由政黨來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2476.wav",
        "text": "任命這大大地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2477.wav",
        "text": "地溢出了立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2478.wav",
        "text": "應當擁有的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2479.wav",
        "text": "不要再一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2480.wav",
        "text": "站在憲法的對立面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2481.wav",
        "text": "\n講回來呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2482.wav",
        "text": "不同制度不要直接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2483.wav",
        "text": "複製貼上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2484.wav",
        "text": "這樣是混淆視聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2485.wav",
        "text": "我們可以學習國外制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2486.wav",
        "text": "良善的部分我都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2487.wav",
        "text": "但是也不要一再地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2488.wav",
        "text": "地蔑視NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2489.wav",
        "text": "從過去運作到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2490.wav",
        "text": "在你們眼中只有罪惡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2491.wav",
        "text": "從以前到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2492.wav",
        "text": "而且被過去國會行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2493.wav",
        "text": "而產出的NCC委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2494.wav",
        "text": "都是不公平的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2495.wav",
        "text": "所以不要過度地把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2496.wav",
        "text": "政治的手伸到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2497.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關裡面去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2498.wav",
        "text": "不要公然地把政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2499.wav",
        "text": "想要遂行的政治目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2500.wav",
        "text": "延伸到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2501.wav",
        "text": "獨立機關裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2502.wav",
        "text": "我真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2503.wav",
        "text": "認為大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2504.wav",
        "text": "擁有了權力更要自制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2505.wav",
        "text": "彼此尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2506.wav",
        "text": "行政立法彼此尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2507.wav",
        "text": "若繼續探討下去可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2508.wav",
        "text": "也無助於今天的共識達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2509.wav",
        "text": "對我覺得大家應該沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2510.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得這樣的對話也挺好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2511.wav",
        "text": "那是不是因為我們對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2512.wav",
        "text": "我想既然大家都沒有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2513.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席讓我們暢所欲言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2514.wav",
        "text": "對所以我沒有限制時間沒限制很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2515.wav",
        "text": "很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2516.wav",
        "text": "那這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2517.wav",
        "text": "喔今天我們的協商過程公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2518.wav",
        "text": "嘛發言內容也都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2519.wav",
        "text": "錄音錄影而且列入紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2520.wav",
        "text": "還需要持續溝通取得共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2521.wav",
        "text": "依據立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2522.wav",
        "text": "職權行使法第十二章的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2523.wav",
        "text": "辦理好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2524.wav",
        "text": "我們對是不是就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2525.wav",
        "text": "送協商好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2526.wav",
        "text": "我想大家今天都滿踴躍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2527.wav",
        "text": "也都討論夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2528.wav",
        "text": "會保留修正動議也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2529.wav",
        "text": "包括逕付二讀委員會的提案也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2530.wav",
        "text": "是不是全部都是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2531.wav",
        "text": "後續如果還要再提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2532.wav",
        "text": "也可以在朝野協商的時候處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2533.wav",
        "text": "針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16015/2534.wav",
        "text": "送協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/0.wav",
        "text": "這是第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/1.wav",
        "text": "我的看法是這樣啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/2.wav",
        "text": "四我們擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/3.wav",
        "text": "委員會下星期一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/4.wav",
        "text": "四我們是不是就"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/5.wav",
        "text": "是比較恰當\n方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/6.wav",
        "text": "的話就是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/16013/7.wav",
        "text": "你"
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