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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/2.wav",
        "text": "所以我大概還是會有幾件事情從外交角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/3.wav",
        "text": "討論第一件事情想先請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/4.wav",
        "text": "4月2號的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/5.wav",
        "text": "為審查這大概是整個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/6.wav",
        "text": "移工聯盟在記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/7.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要先簽MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/8.wav",
        "text": "是不是要實質審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/9.wav",
        "text": "我自己有幾個比較小的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/10.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/11.wav",
        "text": "針對之前我國在簽這些MOU的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/12.wav",
        "text": "圖上這四個是目前在臺灣移工最多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/13.wav",
        "text": "那我們都有先簽MOU嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/14.wav",
        "text": "還是有些都直接簽協定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/15.wav",
        "text": "都有先簽MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/16.wav",
        "text": "沒有經過審查嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/17.wav",
        "text": "應該都有先簽MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/18.wav",
        "text": "然後再進入協定雖然越南跟泰國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/19.wav",
        "text": "我不確定但總之MOU本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/20.wav",
        "text": "並沒有經過審查嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/21.wav",
        "text": "有沒有一些狀況就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/22.wav",
        "text": "我們是簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/23.wav",
        "text": "但是後來並沒有引入勞工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/24.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的狀況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/25.wav",
        "text": "有啊蒙古就是孟加拉也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/26.wav",
        "text": "對緬甸可能也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/27.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是一件滿有疑問的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/28.wav",
        "text": "但既然立法院已經做成這個決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/29.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要討論它的實質內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/30.wav",
        "text": "我看到2024年2月22"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/31.wav",
        "text": "號勞動部提出的澄清稿內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/32.wav",
        "text": "容提到就是我用紅色標註的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/33.wav",
        "text": "這裡說簽了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/34.wav",
        "text": "依條約締結法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/35.wav",
        "text": "受立法院的監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/36.wav",
        "text": "那我們就來看一下條約締結法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/37.wav",
        "text": "第3條第1項規定的是條約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/38.wav",
        "text": "第2項就提到所謂的協定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/39.wav",
        "text": "是指條約以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/40.wav",
        "text": "內容對締約各方均具有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/41.wav",
        "text": "拘束力的國際書面協定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/42.wav",
        "text": "這點基本上沒有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/43.wav",
        "text": "但MOU的拘束力到底有多大呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/44.wav",
        "text": "其實有MOU簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/45.wav",
        "text": "但是到最後也沒有辦法進行下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/46.wav",
        "text": "的所以對於這件事情要把它納進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/47.wav",
        "text": "審查我還是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/48.wav",
        "text": "勞動部可能也要有一個立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/49.wav",
        "text": "MOU就是要拿來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/50.wav",
        "text": "可能以後MOU都要審查了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/51.wav",
        "text": "我覺得對委員來講可能也是滿大的負荷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/52.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/53.wav",
        "text": "我們能夠做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/54.wav",
        "text": "MOU到底能不能放在法律裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/55.wav",
        "text": "放在我們的職權裡面做審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/56.wav",
        "text": "這點當然先打一個問號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/57.wav",
        "text": "但即使我們今天能夠審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/58.wav",
        "text": "依照條文規定看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/59.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是全部都退回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/60.wav",
        "text": "因為這只是意向書而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/61.wav",
        "text": "所以要嘛就是全部退回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/62.wav",
        "text": "所以我想問審查的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/63.wav",
        "text": "今天國防及外交委員會之所以會聯席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/64.wav",
        "text": "可能也是因為這個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/65.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是存查要嘛就是直接退回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/66.wav",
        "text": "對外交這件事情會不會有所影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/67.wav",
        "text": "我一定也會問外交部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/68.wav",
        "text": "但是我也想問一下勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/69.wav",
        "text": "對於這件事情的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/70.wav",
        "text": "畢竟你們才是真正跟對方接觸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/71.wav",
        "text": "那麼在外交上會不會有什麼影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/72.wav",
        "text": "我想這次真的很難得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/73.wav",
        "text": "印度方非常地積極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/74.wav",
        "text": "這項MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/75.wav",
        "text": "不幸沒有通過被退回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/76.wav",
        "text": "當然會是傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/77.wav",
        "text": "在這份報告交由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/78.wav",
        "text": "我相信很多人會關心臺灣勞工的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/79.wav",
        "text": "啦我覺得那都是正當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/80.wav",
        "text": "那都是應該值得討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/81.wav",
        "text": "但是不一定每個人都對外交這件事情熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/82.wav",
        "text": "所以可能也必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/83.wav",
        "text": "委員溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/84.wav",
        "text": "是畢竟還是會有一些外交的衝擊在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/85.wav",
        "text": "我身為國防及外交委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/86.wav",
        "text": "會委員當然不樂見嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/87.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/88.wav",
        "text": "多多跟其他委員做相關說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/89.wav",
        "text": "再來就是剛剛一直提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/90.wav",
        "text": "的直接聘僱可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/91.wav",
        "text": "可不可以再告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/92.wav",
        "text": "困難的點目前是在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/93.wav",
        "text": "臺灣自己內部的那種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/94.wav",
        "text": "外國的經驗來看一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/95.wav",
        "text": "政府跟企業要合作的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/96.wav",
        "text": "都是企業在海外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/97.wav",
        "text": "設人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/98.wav",
        "text": "然後有龐大的經費在背後支撐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/99.wav",
        "text": "在那邊直接進行選工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/100.wav",
        "text": "可是目前我們有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/101.wav",
        "text": "我們還沒有在任何國家這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/102.wav",
        "text": "所以是全新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/103.wav",
        "text": "更何況印度又是新的來源國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/104.wav",
        "text": "所以說真的必須克服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/105.wav",
        "text": "很多困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/106.wav",
        "text": "一定百分之百達成等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/107.wav",
        "text": "可是我們一定盡最大的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/108.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/109.wav",
        "text": "我覺得它絕對是一個好的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/110.wav",
        "text": "但至少這件事情希望勞動部能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/111.wav",
        "text": "極力促成因為這樣對勞工的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/112.wav",
        "text": "一定是比較好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/113.wav",
        "text": "所以我大概就先發言到這邊就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/114.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154290/115.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/0.wav",
        "text": "部長好午安時間有限我想要跟部長討論一下關於工會的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/1.wav",
        "text": "我相信工會政策一直都是勞動部很重要長期支持的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/2.wav",
        "text": "今天要講的是球員工會的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/3.wav",
        "text": "事實上在職棒球員工會或職籃球員工會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/4.wav",
        "text": "或者是目前正在跟協會討論相關約定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/5.wav",
        "text": "這是很重要的示範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/6.wav",
        "text": "而且也感謝勞動部長期都有支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/7.wav",
        "text": "可是目前全國有這麼多工會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/8.wav",
        "text": "勞動部的支持畢竟有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/9.wav",
        "text": "我們辦公室自己提了一個運產條例的修法提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/10.wav",
        "text": "對這項提案我們其實之前也有跟經濟部討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/11.wav",
        "text": "那我想問勞動部是不是會支持目的事業主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/12.wav",
        "text": "針對相關產業工會提供支持呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/13.wav",
        "text": "我們修訂的版本是您目前投影片上所看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/14.wav",
        "text": "增訂第七之二條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/15.wav",
        "text": "這個寫法我們來看直接看下一頁好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/16.wav",
        "text": "我只有兩分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/17.wav",
        "text": "不知道部長之前有沒有注意到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/18.wav",
        "text": "體育界其實長期都有不對等的權力關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/19.wav",
        "text": "關於上對下的壓迫問題其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/20.wav",
        "text": "除了在學校的體育班現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/21.wav",
        "text": "在體育運動產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/22.wav",
        "text": "甚至相關行政工作職場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/23.wav",
        "text": "也一直都有類似問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/24.wav",
        "text": "我相信您身為部長現在應該更支持相關的勞動權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/25.wav",
        "text": "我之前要求體育署必須檢視相關勞動工作環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/26.wav",
        "text": "因為我們認為相關勞動環境的健全非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/27.wav",
        "text": "我也要求體育署要跟勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/28.wav",
        "text": "結果體育署做了一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/29.wav",
        "text": "他們先回復我們辦公室說他們有跟勞動部一起去清查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/30.wav",
        "text": "那我們就問他們你們找勞動部的誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/31.wav",
        "text": "勞動部給了什麼建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/32.wav",
        "text": "勞動部去現場時說了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/33.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/34.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有找勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/35.wav",
        "text": "我們其實是自己去看的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/36.wav",
        "text": "部長你覺得這件事情有沒有很誇張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/37.wav",
        "text": "我來瞭解好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/38.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/39.wav",
        "text": "好好部長謝謝你的善意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/40.wav",
        "text": "你說第一次聽到我也看到你很驚訝對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/41.wav",
        "text": "部長我跟你說實話當我看到這份公文也很驚訝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/42.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會發生這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/43.wav",
        "text": "我想繼續拜託勞動部健全職場工作環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/44.wav",
        "text": "有兩個比較具體的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/45.wav",
        "text": "也許部長比較陌生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/46.wav",
        "text": "我的辦公室很樂意跟勞動部積極討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/47.wav",
        "text": "第一可不可以拜託勞動部在兩個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/48.wav",
        "text": "由勞動部針對中華奧會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/49.wav",
        "text": "還有國內各項體育單項協會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/50.wav",
        "text": "尤其包含特定體育團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/51.wav",
        "text": "在體育署的約聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/52.wav",
        "text": "雇對象國訓中心等單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/53.wav",
        "text": "啟動專案勞檢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/54.wav",
        "text": "確認勞動條件狀況跟有沒有在執行職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/55.wav",
        "text": "時遭受不法侵害的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/56.wav",
        "text": "有沒有機會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/57.wav",
        "text": "我會研究看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/58.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/59.wav",
        "text": "這個我們很願意再跟勞動部積極討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/60.wav",
        "text": "再來是評估把前述對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/61.wav",
        "text": "跟職業業餘運動團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/62.wav",
        "text": "包含具有薪資給付事實的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/63.wav",
        "text": "納入年度勞動檢查方針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/64.wav",
        "text": "並且在三個月內提出評估報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/65.wav",
        "text": "就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/66.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/67.wav",
        "text": "我來研究看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/68.wav",
        "text": "那我的辦公室是不是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/69.wav",
        "text": "再跟勞動部積極地約開會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/70.wav",
        "text": "沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/71.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/72.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154291/73.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席是不是請常次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/1.wav",
        "text": "請林次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/2.wav",
        "text": "陳委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/3.wav",
        "text": "這應該是現在安平港最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/4.wav",
        "text": "我們的智慧漁港我們的智慧海港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/5.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有安平港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/6.wav",
        "text": "然後我們又有觀光整個休憩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/7.wav",
        "text": "甚至是遊艇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/8.wav",
        "text": "還有南仁湖未來的遊憩經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/9.wav",
        "text": "經營這是一個帶狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/10.wav",
        "text": "可是我們要怎麼結合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/11.wav",
        "text": "次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/12.wav",
        "text": "港務公司在經營安平港的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/13.wav",
        "text": "除了既有的港的營運以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/14.wav",
        "text": "它周邊的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/15.wav",
        "text": "如果跟市府可以融合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/16.wav",
        "text": "或者是協助市府發展觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/17.wav",
        "text": "甚至有介面關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/18.wav",
        "text": "都會跟市府來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/19.wav",
        "text": "所以您看到上次的亞果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/20.wav",
        "text": "跟它周邊的住宅Villa"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/21.wav",
        "text": "就結合得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/22.wav",
        "text": "這樣會帶動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/23.wav",
        "text": "那個應該是有一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/24.wav",
        "text": "基本上那個區域已經慢慢發展成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/25.wav",
        "text": "在假日也會到那個地方去了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/26.wav",
        "text": "所以次長我才會講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/27.wav",
        "text": "我才會講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/28.wav",
        "text": "在安平港它有一個特殊性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/29.wav",
        "text": "有海港的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/30.wav",
        "text": "也有運輸通運的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/31.wav",
        "text": "它也有遊憩的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/32.wav",
        "text": "它也有漁港的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/33.wav",
        "text": "所以它非常的特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/34.wav",
        "text": "而且是多重性複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/35.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠整合配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/36.wav",
        "text": "它會是一個非常成功的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/37.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在有準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/38.wav",
        "text": "智慧海港智慧漁港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/39.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/40.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/41.wav",
        "text": "我們是以北觀光南自貿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/42.wav",
        "text": "觀光的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/43.wav",
        "text": "有15.35公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/44.wav",
        "text": "它分成4期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/45.wav",
        "text": "第1期第2期都已經完成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/46.wav",
        "text": "現在在Villa"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/47.wav",
        "text": "還有63個席位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/48.wav",
        "text": "複合觀光方面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/49.wav",
        "text": "總共有17.24公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/50.wav",
        "text": "目前也分3期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/51.wav",
        "text": "可能在120年可以完工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/52.wav",
        "text": "另外我們針對整個安平港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/53.wav",
        "text": "你覺得依照你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/54.wav",
        "text": "作業的程序來得及嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/55.wav",
        "text": "你們作業的程序有點拖拖拉拉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/56.wav",
        "text": "這樣來得及嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/57.wav",
        "text": "如果他越快的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/58.wav",
        "text": "我們會配合得更快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/59.wav",
        "text": "是啊當然開發商一定是要快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/60.wav",
        "text": "重點是在行政程序當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/61.wav",
        "text": "我們配合得了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/62.wav",
        "text": "總是卡關在我們的行政程序當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/63.wav",
        "text": "啊所以我覺得我們希望看的是時效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/64.wav",
        "text": "既然我們要把它變成是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/65.wav",
        "text": "又有休憩又有遊艇又有海港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/66.wav",
        "text": "然後多元化開發的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/67.wav",
        "text": "我們就要更積極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/68.wav",
        "text": "要讓大家看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/69.wav",
        "text": "啊好我再請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/70.wav",
        "text": "現在在整個智慧海港當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/71.wav",
        "text": "我們會投注哪些精力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/72.wav",
        "text": "有無人船有無人機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/73.wav",
        "text": "還有觀光用虛擬體驗這些嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/74.wav",
        "text": "有目前我們都有開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/75.wav",
        "text": "我們的港區跟中華電信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/76.wav",
        "text": "像無人船的話就結合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/77.wav",
        "text": "針對這個港域的一些污染"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/78.wav",
        "text": "或是一些垃圾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/79.wav",
        "text": "另外還有無人機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/80.wav",
        "text": "無人機做場域的一些巡查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/81.wav",
        "text": "你覺得現在的進度如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/82.wav",
        "text": "有達到預期的效果嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/83.wav",
        "text": "現在都還在驗證當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/84.wav",
        "text": "預計什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/85.wav",
        "text": "可以讓它很廣闊地去推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/86.wav",
        "text": "所謂的無人船去收集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/87.wav",
        "text": "及水深的量測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/88.wav",
        "text": "然後無人機去做這些AI的偵測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/89.wav",
        "text": "去做救生相關的動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/90.wav",
        "text": "那這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/91.wav",
        "text": "大概明年啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/92.wav",
        "text": "明年大概下半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/93.wav",
        "text": "下半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/94.wav",
        "text": "因為中華電信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/95.wav",
        "text": "基隆有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/96.wav",
        "text": "現在在做高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/97.wav",
        "text": "無人機的部分在臺中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/98.wav",
        "text": "它有做過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/99.wav",
        "text": "我們希望臺南速度快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/100.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/101.wav",
        "text": "速度快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/102.wav",
        "text": "明年下半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/103.wav",
        "text": "其實有點晚了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/104.wav",
        "text": "大家都在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/105.wav",
        "text": "了臺南為什麼慢人家半拍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/106.wav",
        "text": "我們希望快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/107.wav",
        "text": "都會親水休憩特區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/108.wav",
        "text": "其實我們有很多的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/109.wav",
        "text": "在115年能夠陸續完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/110.wav",
        "text": "已經在做一些改建工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/111.wav",
        "text": "總經費是5億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/112.wav",
        "text": "安平漁港跨港大橋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/113.wav",
        "text": "整個經費是19億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/114.wav",
        "text": "運河遊河促參計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/115.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/116.wav",
        "text": "這是促參"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/117.wav",
        "text": "參促參的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/118.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以到達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/119.wav",
        "text": "市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/120.wav",
        "text": "沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/121.wav",
        "text": "啊市政府你們給它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/122.wav",
        "text": "它再上網公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/123.wav",
        "text": "那你預計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/124.wav",
        "text": "呢你們沒有掌控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/125.wav",
        "text": "可是這個帶狀的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/126.wav",
        "text": "你們要去掌控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/127.wav",
        "text": "好還有另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/128.wav",
        "text": "我跟次長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/129.wav",
        "text": "另外一個是轉運站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/130.wav",
        "text": "這是2,600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/131.wav",
        "text": "還有一個大運河計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/132.wav",
        "text": "這是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/133.wav",
        "text": "喔其實臺南囡仔都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/134.wav",
        "text": "運河在講歷史"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/135.wav",
        "text": "所以這個大運河計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/136.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼透過截流清淤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/137.wav",
        "text": "來進行整個光環境的營造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/138.wav",
        "text": "甚至做親水護岸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/139.wav",
        "text": "空間美化作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/140.wav",
        "text": "總共有10.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/141.wav",
        "text": "喔還有我們的舊魚市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/142.wav",
        "text": "這也是觀旅局的促參"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/143.wav",
        "text": "還有我們星鑽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/144.wav",
        "text": "可是我覺得這個大運河計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/145.wav",
        "text": "是我們已經爭取10.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/146.wav",
        "text": "已經送了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/147.wav",
        "text": "還是跟交通部申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/148.wav",
        "text": "你們都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/149.wav",
        "text": "好如果是交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/150.wav",
        "text": "我們再來了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/151.wav",
        "text": "都有你們是整個大計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/152.wav",
        "text": "大運河計畫是整個大計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/153.wav",
        "text": "每個人所負責的單位不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/154.wav",
        "text": "這10.2億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/155.wav",
        "text": "就像我剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/156.wav",
        "text": "它必須有整個護岸空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/157.wav",
        "text": "因為這個運河"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/158.wav",
        "text": "是你們所管轄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/159.wav",
        "text": "了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/160.wav",
        "text": "它不是只有運河而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/161.wav",
        "text": "所以我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/162.wav",
        "text": "跟你們港有關係就是因為這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/163.wav",
        "text": "啦所以這個部分比較麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/164.wav",
        "text": "我們希望未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/165.wav",
        "text": "這一個大運河計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/166.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們臺南的根"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/167.wav",
        "text": "我們會跟市政府配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/168.wav",
        "text": "尤其這400年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/169.wav",
        "text": "這個很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/170.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/171.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154292/172.wav",
        "text": "發言完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席有請次長及航警局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/1.wav",
        "text": "局請次長今天沒有航警局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/2.wav",
        "text": "有關於臺中機場國內國際航線及改善原鄉的交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/3.wav",
        "text": "原鄉的交通我特別要提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/4.wav",
        "text": "2023年臺中國際機場竣工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/5.wav",
        "text": "不僅外貌煥然一新國際航班也持續開拓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/6.wav",
        "text": "臺中國際機場是中部地區連接世界的重要紐帶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/7.wav",
        "text": "發展備受關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/8.wav",
        "text": "也提升了航站的形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/9.wav",
        "text": "至於臺中機場目前到113年6月17日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/10.wav",
        "text": "日國內國際及兩岸定期航線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/11.wav",
        "text": "我們資料在這個地方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/12.wav",
        "text": "國際的就不要陳述了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/13.wav",
        "text": "另預計113年夏季航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/14.wav",
        "text": "規劃再開闢3條航線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/15.wav",
        "text": "包括成田名古屋高松"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/16.wav",
        "text": "\n在過去二三十年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/17.wav",
        "text": "我們臺中有一個航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/18.wav",
        "text": "就是臺中到臺東的航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/19.wav",
        "text": "我希望這個部分你們去評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/20.wav",
        "text": "而且把這個報告給我一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/21.wav",
        "text": "要做一個評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/22.wav",
        "text": "因為現在要開拓的是花東的觀光路線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/23.wav",
        "text": "交通部應該要增加臺中國際機場飛往日間花蓮及臺東的航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/24.wav",
        "text": "並降低票價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/25.wav",
        "text": "除了可以拓展花東的觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/26.wav",
        "text": "更是提供臺灣原住民族人便捷返鄉的交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/27.wav",
        "text": "請問次長你同意認同我的看法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/28.wav",
        "text": "報告委員謝謝您提出來的見解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/29.wav",
        "text": "花蓮臺中之間目前還是有航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/30.wav",
        "text": "一週有3班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/31.wav",
        "text": "另外您提到往臺東的以前有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/32.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有這個航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/33.wav",
        "text": "所以你們要評估一下這個有沒有觀光的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/34.wav",
        "text": "以目前來講當然地震的因素造成臺東花蓮的觀光停擺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/35.wav",
        "text": "而且觀光客幾乎只有一兩成左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/36.wav",
        "text": "絕對是不利的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/37.wav",
        "text": "所以如果開闢臺中到臺東的航班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/38.wav",
        "text": "我相信除了便捷也讓我們的族人包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/39.wav",
        "text": "我們在西部走廊的觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/40.wav",
        "text": "有便於他們對臺東花蓮的觀光以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/41.wav",
        "text": "臺東人淪為二等公民因為交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/42.wav",
        "text": "李部長日前表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/43.wav",
        "text": "將自7月1日起更改為不分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/44.wav",
        "text": "行政院長卓榮泰6月22日到花蓮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/45.wav",
        "text": "當場指示交通部提前至6月24日實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/46.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵遊客踴躍前來花蓮觀光遊玩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/47.wav",
        "text": "第一個請問臺東原本7月1日的觀光補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/48.wav",
        "text": "是否比照花蓮一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/49.wav",
        "text": "自6月24日實施觀光補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/50.wav",
        "text": "第二請問臺東依觀光署的補助規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/51.wav",
        "text": "只有週一到週四補助1,000元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/52.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能比照花蓮一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/53.wav",
        "text": "實施不分平假日皆補助1,000元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/54.wav",
        "text": "這樣的大小眼對臺東情何以堪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/55.wav",
        "text": "因為地震跟我們的連帶關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/56.wav",
        "text": "跟臺東絕對是有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/57.wav",
        "text": "所以針對這一點你們再給我一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/58.wav",
        "text": "重新調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/59.wav",
        "text": "縣府力挺花蓮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/60.wav",
        "text": "但是沒想到我們政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/61.wav",
        "text": "竟然連觀光補助都不能一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/62.wav",
        "text": "對臺東人來講絕對不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/63.wav",
        "text": "大家知道花蓮發生地震連帶損失最嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/64.wav",
        "text": "是隔壁的臺東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/65.wav",
        "text": "如今連補助都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/66.wav",
        "text": "難道臺東是二等公民嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/67.wav",
        "text": "第二本席再次強烈抗議及要求觀光署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/68.wav",
        "text": "花東在交通文化及資源是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/69.wav",
        "text": "旅遊觀光的生命共同體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/70.wav",
        "text": "絕不可以分割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/71.wav",
        "text": "更不能大小眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/72.wav",
        "text": "一定要給臺東一個合理的交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/73.wav",
        "text": "是我跟您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/74.wav",
        "text": "這一次因為地震0403"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/75.wav",
        "text": "主要是在臺7臺8"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/76.wav",
        "text": "往臺北的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/77.wav",
        "text": "花蓮往臺北的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/78.wav",
        "text": "所以花蓮地區大概是往北的方向中斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/79.wav",
        "text": "第二個您提到的補助部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/80.wav",
        "text": "我們有跟臺東縣政府溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/81.wav",
        "text": "縣長的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/82.wav",
        "text": "7月剛好這段時間是臺東的熱氣球季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/83.wav",
        "text": "現在假日是供不應求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/84.wav",
        "text": "所以他認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/85.wav",
        "text": "假日不用在這時候點火"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/86.wav",
        "text": "希望在平常日能夠來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/87.wav",
        "text": "所以這個我們有跟縣府討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/88.wav",
        "text": "有節奏地來協助臺東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/89.wav",
        "text": "但是本席認為應該要有一致性好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/90.wav",
        "text": "不是週一到週四而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/91.wav",
        "text": "既然花蓮有臺東應該要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/92.wav",
        "text": "因為我們是生命共同體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/93.wav",
        "text": "在觀光的建設跟觀光的旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/94.wav",
        "text": "絕對是有關連性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/95.wav",
        "text": "絕對不能分割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/96.wav",
        "text": "不要大小眼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/97.wav",
        "text": "次長你能馬上回答嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/98.wav",
        "text": "委員我想這個部分我們會請觀光署來評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/99.wav",
        "text": "這幾天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/100.wav",
        "text": "不是評估不用評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/101.wav",
        "text": "因為上次我已經跟觀光署講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/102.wav",
        "text": "它也答應同步進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/103.wav",
        "text": "為什麼後面會有一個調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/104.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話我不解好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/105.wav",
        "text": "麻煩你把這個報告給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154293/106.wav",
        "text": "好我來跟觀光署提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/0.wav",
        "text": "次長大部分的公車如果行進到沒有公車專用的道路是不是常常會跟其他汽機車一起行駛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/1.wav",
        "text": "公路是共用的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/2.wav",
        "text": "對如果說在交通最繁忙的時段它是不是沒有辦法確實地靠站停車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/3.wav",
        "text": "有這種狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/4.wav",
        "text": "基本上公車還是要儘量靠站因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/5.wav",
        "text": "目前我們對公車站的要求第一個當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/6.wav",
        "text": "是儘量靠站第二個是有些導入低地板公車來使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/7.wav",
        "text": "便利一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/8.wav",
        "text": "現在除了身障朋友之外還有視障的部分現在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/9.wav",
        "text": "有沒有全部都建置好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/10.wav",
        "text": "全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/11.wav",
        "text": "報告委員所謂無障礙尤其是這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/12.wav",
        "text": "從頭到尾要引導的設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/13.wav",
        "text": "所以我們有一些航站或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/14.wav",
        "text": "terminal本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/15.wav",
        "text": "目前並沒有全部都要設這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/16.wav",
        "text": "有很多還是用人為來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/17.wav",
        "text": "這種身障或者是視障的設施特別是導盲磚的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/18.wav",
        "text": "因為我們很多的公車站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/19.wav",
        "text": "其實它旁邊也沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/20.wav",
        "text": "設備有些時候你們有特別設立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/21.wav",
        "text": "聲音的輔助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/22.wav",
        "text": "可是有時候不但聲音輔助沒有辦法正常使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/23.wav",
        "text": "也沒有導盲磚那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/24.wav",
        "text": "這種狀況的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/25.wav",
        "text": "是不是會整體的影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/26.wav",
        "text": "是確實沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/27.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/28.wav",
        "text": "針對一些重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/29.wav",
        "text": "其實在很多都市的人口聚集地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/30.wav",
        "text": "它的設置是有絕對的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/31.wav",
        "text": "所以我是希望可以盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/32.wav",
        "text": "除了六都之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/33.wav",
        "text": "還有其他的包含嘉義市基隆市等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/34.wav",
        "text": "這些人口聚集區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/35.wav",
        "text": "一定要有相應的設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/36.wav",
        "text": "特別是我國的高齡化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/37.wav",
        "text": "超高齡化的狀況是越來越高齡化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/38.wav",
        "text": "看東西整體會越來越模糊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/39.wav",
        "text": "他們也會慢慢地從健康走向亞健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/40.wav",
        "text": "所以相關的建設必須要做好準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/41.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/42.wav",
        "text": "交通部跟交通部所屬的各局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/43.wav",
        "text": "現在有一個無障礙溝通小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/44.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們會定期邀請相關的團體來提供建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/45.wav",
        "text": "第二個您提到的這個部分確實很多地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/46.wav",
        "text": "開始出現高齡者視障者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/47.wav",
        "text": "甚至相關的視障朋友需要輔助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/48.wav",
        "text": "會請我們路政道安司去通令全國各縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/49.wav",
        "text": "來你看一下這個無障礙候車空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/50.wav",
        "text": "請次長稍微看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/51.wav",
        "text": "您覺得這一種候車空間對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/52.wav",
        "text": "不友善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/53.wav",
        "text": "不是很友善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/54.wav",
        "text": "尤其是左邊這一個不友善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/55.wav",
        "text": "不過我跟您報告內政部也看到這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/56.wav",
        "text": "所以您應該也了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/57.wav",
        "text": "他們最近已經通過一個條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/58.wav",
        "text": "有4年400億的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/59.wav",
        "text": "去處理這一類人行通道的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/60.wav",
        "text": "及各縣市政府的協助跟輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/61.wav",
        "text": "我們會結合他們一起來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/62.wav",
        "text": "我們是希望設置這樣子的無障礙候車空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/63.wav",
        "text": "它不是只是把一個logo貼上去而已"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/64.wav",
        "text": "它必須是以人為本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/65.wav",
        "text": "以人為本的交通包含候車空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/66.wav",
        "text": "都必須要做好處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/67.wav",
        "text": "\n再來你剛才提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/68.wav",
        "text": "會有4年400億的對4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/69.wav",
        "text": "行人基本法裡面也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/70.wav",
        "text": "任何設施設在人行道上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/71.wav",
        "text": "應該要移除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/72.wav",
        "text": "所以這一塊在行政院開過會以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/73.wav",
        "text": "也要各縣市政府全面盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/74.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛show的電線桿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/75.wav",
        "text": "有的是中華電信的電信箱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/76.wav",
        "text": "或者是相關的障礙設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/77.wav",
        "text": "應該要設法去調整跟移除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/78.wav",
        "text": "視障的乘客都非常無奈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/79.wav",
        "text": "就是測試上報車號都聽不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/80.wav",
        "text": "所以全方位的一個標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/81.wav",
        "text": "至少你的指引要做出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/82.wav",
        "text": "才不會各縣市都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/83.wav",
        "text": "有些表現得比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/84.wav",
        "text": "像臺北市就表現得比較不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/85.wav",
        "text": "因為他直接聽不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/86.wav",
        "text": "這個東西如果各吹各的調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/87.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是不妥當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/88.wav",
        "text": "標準的指引要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/89.wav",
        "text": "4年400億的相關經費下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/90.wav",
        "text": "標準的指引都要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/91.wav",
        "text": "不要這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/92.wav",
        "text": "然後每一個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/93.wav",
        "text": "執行的守則都不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/94.wav",
        "text": "剛才我們提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/95.wav",
        "text": "自動斜板也是一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/96.wav",
        "text": "我是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/97.wav",
        "text": "應該要強制設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/98.wav",
        "text": "無障礙的自動斜板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/99.wav",
        "text": "僅僅只是為了我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/100.wav",
        "text": "身體不自由的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/101.wav",
        "text": "我們以後的老年化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/102.wav",
        "text": "相當大的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/103.wav",
        "text": "我也藉這個機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/104.wav",
        "text": "跟委員還有各位報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/105.wav",
        "text": "斜板的設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/106.wav",
        "text": "早期曾經有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/107.wav",
        "text": "但是就是您講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/108.wav",
        "text": "靠到我們路緣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/109.wav",
        "text": "有些時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/110.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法直接無縫的銜接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/111.wav",
        "text": "所以後來才導入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/112.wav",
        "text": "低地板公車的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/113.wav",
        "text": "所以這兩種必須"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/114.wav",
        "text": "能夠解決這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/115.wav",
        "text": "我們在公共運輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/116.wav",
        "text": "無障礙化的環境下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/117.wav",
        "text": "這個應該是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/118.wav",
        "text": "努力的一個作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/119.wav",
        "text": "無障礙空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/120.wav",
        "text": "要先做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/121.wav",
        "text": "不然各吹各的調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154294/122.wav",
        "text": "我還是再強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/1.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/2.wav",
        "text": "我今天要問的是婦女生育跟就業是不是二選一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/3.wav",
        "text": "進而成為少子化元凶好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/4.wav",
        "text": "我們大概算出來現在男性跟女性的勞動參與率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/5.wav",
        "text": "在29歲以前只差3.3%30歲以後就跳升到11%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/6.wav",
        "text": "已婚女性高達22.7%會因為生育離職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/7.wav",
        "text": "40%不會再回到職場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/8.wav",
        "text": "所以其實女性的勞動參與率一直沒有辦法提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/9.wav",
        "text": "其實在50歲以後的勞參率是更低的而且是墜崖式下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/10.wav",
        "text": "是的解決她的問題才是真正可能可以讓少子化改善的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/11.wav",
        "text": "性別平等工作法裡面規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/12.wav",
        "text": "超過100人以上的事業單位要設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/13.wav",
        "text": "托兒服務機構或提供托兒措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/14.wav",
        "text": "至於真正的比例您知道有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/15.wav",
        "text": "不到7成大概7成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/16.wav",
        "text": "也就是說應該提供的企業中只有7成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/17.wav",
        "text": "設置有沒有辦法提升有沒有辦法讓它提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/18.wav",
        "text": "我們有給企業獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/19.wav",
        "text": "如果有了法律規定卻又不處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/20.wav",
        "text": "只給獎勵你認為提升的效率很高嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/21.wav",
        "text": "我們當然就是應該更加大宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/22.wav",
        "text": "你覺得我有能力請金管會主委喝咖啡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/23.wav",
        "text": "不是我是說像金管會主委會找銀行業者喝咖啡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/24.wav",
        "text": "你也可以找這些大企業喝咖啡或者去拜訪好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/25.wav",
        "text": "這是第一可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/26.wav",
        "text": "公告誰達到百分之多少誰沒有達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/27.wav",
        "text": "方法很多請部長想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/28.wav",
        "text": "上班有假卻不敢請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/29.wav",
        "text": "雖然有家庭照顧假有生理假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/30.wav",
        "text": "但目前為止依照性別工作平等法都是以日為單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/31.wav",
        "text": "公務員早就用小時來計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/32.wav",
        "text": "您是說家庭照顧假嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/33.wav",
        "text": "或者因為小孩去上個家長日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/34.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以在勞基法或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/35.wav",
        "text": "性別工作平等法裡面增加規定以小時為單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/36.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這可以給女性很多的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/37.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告生理假現在可以以小時為單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/38.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有還有親職假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/39.wav",
        "text": "最重要的是我們這幾天開了記者會的就是產假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/40.wav",
        "text": "我國現在還停留在二十年前的8周但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/41.wav",
        "text": "世界上的趨勢已經是14周了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/42.wav",
        "text": "請部長為女性爭取至少開始往前走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/43.wav",
        "text": "增加產假比照公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/44.wav",
        "text": "目前的產假8周不含例假日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/45.wav",
        "text": "而且可以不連續用這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/46.wav",
        "text": "有一些彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/47.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們希望勞動部的新部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/48.wav",
        "text": "能為勞工多說一點話好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/49.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們也會提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/50.wav",
        "text": "麻煩勞動部要往這個方向走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/51.wav",
        "text": "第一是怎麼減少女性的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/52.wav",
        "text": "第二個是增加她生育的意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/53.wav",
        "text": "好好謝謝委員謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154295/54.wav",
        "text": "好我們現在休息5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/0.wav",
        "text": "好有請連次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請連次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/2.wav",
        "text": "今天討論的是國營事業的人力斷層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/3.wav",
        "text": "我在立法院都一直在倡議壯世代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/4.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天特別趕來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/5.wav",
        "text": "給你提一個解方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/6.wav",
        "text": "希望你聽得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/7.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/8.wav",
        "text": "從這個曲線當中看到這三年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/9.wav",
        "text": "從2020年到2023年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/10.wav",
        "text": "我們的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/11.wav",
        "text": "增加了108萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/12.wav",
        "text": "但是因為少子化所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/13.wav",
        "text": "大家搶人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/14.wav",
        "text": "搶的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/15.wav",
        "text": "越來越困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/16.wav",
        "text": "我們從這一頁看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/17.wav",
        "text": "國營事業也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/18.wav",
        "text": "銀飯碗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/19.wav",
        "text": "鐵飯碗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/20.wav",
        "text": "銅飯碗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/21.wav",
        "text": "但是這些保障越來越少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/22.wav",
        "text": "台電從4%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/23.wav",
        "text": "增加到13%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/24.wav",
        "text": "但是現在10%還是很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/25.wav",
        "text": "以前5%左右現在都10%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/26.wav",
        "text": "增加了一倍錄取率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/27.wav",
        "text": "不過10%還是很難考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/28.wav",
        "text": "我們看到現在民間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/29.wav",
        "text": "特別這些科技業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/30.wav",
        "text": "因為跟我們這些科技業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/31.wav",
        "text": "在爭取人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/32.wav",
        "text": "從他們的薪資排行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/33.wav",
        "text": "來看不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/34.wav",
        "text": "國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/35.wav",
        "text": "如何跟這些民間科技業來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/36.wav",
        "text": "爭取人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/37.wav",
        "text": "爭取這些年輕的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/38.wav",
        "text": "請問次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/39.wav",
        "text": "當然我們沒辦法跟這些"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/40.wav",
        "text": "科技業去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/41.wav",
        "text": "因為他還有很多盈餘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/42.wav",
        "text": "盈餘或分紅因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/43.wav",
        "text": "國營事業這部分還是有一定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/44.wav",
        "text": "規定我們現在針對這些新進人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/45.wav",
        "text": "會稍微再把起薪調高一點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/46.wav",
        "text": "以前的福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/47.wav",
        "text": "我們現在也有在檢討這些福利的相關問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/48.wav",
        "text": "OK看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/49.wav",
        "text": "還是很困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/50.wav",
        "text": "因為連公務人員都沒辦法跟科技業這邊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/51.wav",
        "text": "錄取率很低10%對不對有這麼優秀的人才"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/52.wav",
        "text": "對不對人家福利又高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/53.wav",
        "text": "你的保障現在也降低了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/54.wav",
        "text": "這一方面年輕人才很困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/55.wav",
        "text": "所以"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/56.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要從高齡的人才"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/57.wav",
        "text": "過去我們從這個表當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/58.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們現在用人單位都還是停留在1970年代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/59.wav",
        "text": "把主要的勞動人口放在下方──年輕人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/60.wav",
        "text": "就這個金字塔的下方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/61.wav",
        "text": "但是臺灣已經進入到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/62.wav",
        "text": "2040年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/63.wav",
        "text": "主力在高層的人口所以要往這一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/64.wav",
        "text": "64歲錄取率10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/65.wav",
        "text": "欸照常考上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/66.wav",
        "text": "沒幾天就開始要準備退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/67.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/68.wav",
        "text": "有看到這個新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/69.wav",
        "text": "很荒謬的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/70.wav",
        "text": "所以這裡也看到事實上我來談的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/71.wav",
        "text": "其實有研究報告他的策略跟創意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/72.wav",
        "text": "事實上達到人生的最高峰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/73.wav",
        "text": "在60到80歲之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/74.wav",
        "text": "不是你想像的是我們沒有好好的去挖掘他的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/75.wav",
        "text": "所以國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/76.wav",
        "text": "好好的研究因為你們用了龐大的人力\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/77.wav",
        "text": "我最近也推動勞基法第54條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/78.wav",
        "text": "改了一個第54條本來是65歲退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/79.wav",
        "text": "以後要改成如果勞工有工作意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/80.wav",
        "text": "得經雇主及勞工雙方協議延長之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/81.wav",
        "text": "所以國營事業是不是可以率先來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/82.wav",
        "text": "響應這一方面的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/83.wav",
        "text": "\n最後是不是可以請經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/84.wav",
        "text": "針對國營事業善用壯世代55+"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/85.wav",
        "text": "豐富的人力資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/86.wav",
        "text": "可不可以在兩個月之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/87.wav",
        "text": "提出壯世代人力的運用計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/88.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告其實我們現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/89.wav",
        "text": "國營事業在報考的時候也沒有年齡限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/90.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講台鐵的那個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/91.wav",
        "text": "好像台電也有個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/92.wav",
        "text": "考完沒多久就退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/93.wav",
        "text": "所以其實針對這些壯世代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/94.wav",
        "text": "我們在報考的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/95.wav",
        "text": "那些措施還是不夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154296/96.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/0.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好今天我們討論學生輔導法的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/2.wav",
        "text": "這部法案大家都很關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/3.wav",
        "text": "我們也和教育部有過多次討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/4.wav",
        "text": "今天教育部有正式說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/5.wav",
        "text": "到未來修法有五大方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/6.wav",
        "text": "還有地方輔諮中心要專業化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/7.wav",
        "text": "還有提供各級輔導老師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/8.wav",
        "text": "其中一個很重要的部分就是人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/9.wav",
        "text": "因為過去本席在市議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/10.wav",
        "text": "和臺北市政府社會局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/11.wav",
        "text": "\n但是我們知道想要給予學生支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/12.wav",
        "text": "專業的輔導人力是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/13.wav",
        "text": "專業輔導人力真的不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/14.wav",
        "text": "除了增加人力以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/15.wav",
        "text": "心輔資源連結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/16.wav",
        "text": "本席先問一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/17.wav",
        "text": "專任的輔導人力對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/18.wav",
        "text": "但是今天教育部也有提到少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/19.wav",
        "text": "少子化再加上學校又減班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/20.wav",
        "text": "所以55班以上的學校其實是越來越少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/21.wav",
        "text": "按照你們現在的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/22.wav",
        "text": "以高中校別來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/23.wav",
        "text": "525所學校裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/24.wav",
        "text": "現在有55班的學校有幾所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/25.wav",
        "text": "其實教育部的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/26.wav",
        "text": "有提供我們數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/27.wav",
        "text": "的只有85校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/28.wav",
        "text": "這份資料是教育部提供給本席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/29.wav",
        "text": "之所以舉這個例子主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/30.wav",
        "text": "我們的法規真的需要修改了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/31.wav",
        "text": "實際上我們能夠增加的輔導人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/32.wav",
        "text": "是有限的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/33.wav",
        "text": "對於需求來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/34.wav",
        "text": "所以在我們的提案裡面也把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/35.wav",
        "text": "大學要設專業輔導人力的門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/36.wav",
        "text": "從每1,200人設1位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/37.wav",
        "text": "下修到每900人設1位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/38.wav",
        "text": "就是希望充實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/39.wav",
        "text": "校園裡面的專輔人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/40.wav",
        "text": "\n前陣子有新店高中的學生來訪問本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/41.wav",
        "text": "就是關於我們正在試辦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/42.wav",
        "text": "高中生心理假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/43.wav",
        "text": "也就是身心調適假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/44.wav",
        "text": "3月就開始上路了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/45.wav",
        "text": "在高中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/46.wav",
        "text": "及試辦的學校裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/47.wav",
        "text": "我們有沒有掌握數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/48.wav",
        "text": "從3月到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/49.wav",
        "text": "已經開始在請心理假"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/50.wav",
        "text": "就是身心調適假的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/51.wav",
        "text": "學生或是請假的次數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/52.wav",
        "text": "有沒有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/53.wav",
        "text": "粗略的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/54.wav",
        "text": "我們會做一個調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/55.wav",
        "text": "那天也會會商這42校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/56.wav",
        "text": "我們會填寫一個調查表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/57.wav",
        "text": "其中相關的數據包含剛才委員提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/58.wav",
        "text": "大概平均有多少學生運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/59.wav",
        "text": "以及運用的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/60.wav",
        "text": "可能會是哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/61.wav",
        "text": "其實過去就有這樣的需求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/62.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有這個假別"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/63.wav",
        "text": "而且學生請假還是需要家長同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/64.wav",
        "text": "所以在實務上除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/65.wav",
        "text": "是否認同身心假"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/66.wav",
        "text": "這是一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/67.wav",
        "text": "再來是同儕之間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/68.wav",
        "text": "其實學生會有點擔心他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/69.wav",
        "text": "但是倘若請了這個假"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/70.wav",
        "text": "同學會不會用異樣的眼光看待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/71.wav",
        "text": "會不會覺得我怎麼了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/72.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我們一直在說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/73.wav",
        "text": "身心健康"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/74.wav",
        "text": "大家都要擁有的這已經是基本常識所"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/75.wav",
        "text": "其他委員大概包含精神科醫師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/76.wav",
        "text": "是目前法定成員有沒有學生代表"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/77.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有學生代表"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/78.wav",
        "text": "我們現在都強調學生有自主性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/79.wav",
        "text": "要讓學生一起參與討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/80.wav",
        "text": "部長請回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/81.wav",
        "text": "接下來本席要請體育署"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/82.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/83.wav",
        "text": "因為今天我們討論學生輔導"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/84.wav",
        "text": "關心的是心理輔導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/85.wav",
        "text": "心理的支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/86.wav",
        "text": "現在我們準備要前進奧運像"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/87.wav",
        "text": "也拿到奧運的門票"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/88.wav",
        "text": "之前教委會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/89.wav",
        "text": "本席現在請問署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/90.wav",
        "text": "有沒有準備好要派運動心理師隨團"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/91.wav",
        "text": "在運動心理的專業人員方面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/92.wav",
        "text": "運動心理諮商老師有9位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/93.wav",
        "text": "心理諮商師有1位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/94.wav",
        "text": "太好了這個非常重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/95.wav",
        "text": "去年在教委會委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/96.wav",
        "text": "委員們也在關心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/97.wav",
        "text": "啦因為運動心理師"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/98.wav",
        "text": "才請他們進駐幫忙"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/99.wav",
        "text": "正式編制常態性的運動心理師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/100.wav",
        "text": "因為這個準備過程是非常長的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/101.wav",
        "text": "所以當時最後的建議是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/102.wav",
        "text": "納入運科中心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/103.wav",
        "text": "本席想請問運科中心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/104.wav",
        "text": "有沒有聘請正式的運動心理師"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/105.wav",
        "text": "有編制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/106.wav",
        "text": "但是這分兩個層面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/107.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/108.wav",
        "text": "如果是諮商心理師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/109.wav",
        "text": "因為他的市場薪資要求比較高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/110.wav",
        "text": "針對薪資的部分正在做調整"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/111.wav",
        "text": "目前是用兼職的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/112.wav",
        "text": "目前運動心理諮商老師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/113.wav",
        "text": "我們主要關注的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/114.wav",
        "text": "這些專業人員協助我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/115.wav",
        "text": "支持選手"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/116.wav",
        "text": "我們不能每次要培訓比賽"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/117.wav",
        "text": "了才請人家來幫忙"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/118.wav",
        "text": "比賽培訓任務結束了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/119.wav",
        "text": "就請你先回家休息"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/120.wav",
        "text": "休息了幾個月"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/121.wav",
        "text": "下次有需要的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/122.wav",
        "text": "就馬上徵召你你又要來幫忙"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/123.wav",
        "text": "我們還是要讓他們有穩定的環境"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/124.wav",
        "text": "有更充足的心理方面支持"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/125.wav",
        "text": "這就是為什麼"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/126.wav",
        "text": "希望他們薪資的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/127.wav",
        "text": "能夠做調整"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/128.wav",
        "text": "因為符合市場需求才聘得到人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/129.wav",
        "text": "也正在積極解決的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/130.wav",
        "text": "目前我們放寬的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/131.wav",
        "text": "選手參加奧運"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/132.wav",
        "text": "也有可能是用外面的諮商老師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/133.wav",
        "text": "我們都一起帶去奧運"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/134.wav",
        "text": "心理支持非常重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154297/135.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/0.wav",
        "text": "總長好今年的漢光演習比較不同的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/1.wav",
        "text": "過去是五天四夜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/2.wav",
        "text": "現在改成八天七夜顧"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/3.wav",
        "text": "顧部長應該知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/4.wav",
        "text": "上次我問邱部長的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/5.wav",
        "text": "是說我們要增加很多跟聯軍演訓的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/6.wav",
        "text": "我想請您針對這個部分再說明一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/7.wav",
        "text": "從五天四夜延長到八天七夜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/8.wav",
        "text": "有哪一些科目是增加的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/9.wav",
        "text": "但是我們希望知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/10.wav",
        "text": "增加的這幾個天數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/11.wav",
        "text": "我們是要增加哪一部分的演習"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/12.wav",
        "text": "它可以達到什麼樣的目的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/13.wav",
        "text": "我想詳細內容由總長來報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/14.wav",
        "text": "不過跟您說明一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/15.wav",
        "text": "八天七夜是指電腦輔助指揮所的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/16.wav",
        "text": "他確實有說演練的項目是有增加的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/17.wav",
        "text": "如果您回去看過去的影像的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/18.wav",
        "text": "知道知道這我理解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/19.wav",
        "text": "委員好我來說明一下我們"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/20.wav",
        "text": "今年從五天四夜延長到八天七夜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/21.wav",
        "text": "所謂的電腦輔助指揮所演練"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/22.wav",
        "text": "是因為近年的威脅"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/23.wav",
        "text": "共軍有可能由演轉戰的這個狀況"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/24.wav",
        "text": "由演轉戰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/25.wav",
        "text": "對由演轉戰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/26.wav",
        "text": "你們的判斷是有這樣的可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/27.wav",
        "text": "是從前年他們的聯合軍事行動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/28.wav",
        "text": "到近期所謂的利劍─2024A"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/29.wav",
        "text": "這是溫水煮青蛙"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/30.wav",
        "text": "或是一直不斷地切香腸的戰術"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/31.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也逐漸看出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/32.wav",
        "text": "他具備了所謂由演轉戰這樣的能力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/33.wav",
        "text": "所以我們這一次漢光演習的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/34.wav",
        "text": "就著重在幾個重點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/35.wav",
        "text": "第一個國軍如何從灰色地帶"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/36.wav",
        "text": "能夠快速的轉換成為備戰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/37.wav",
        "text": "我們在這個階段大概就增加了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/38.wav",
        "text": "一日到兩日的操演過程"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/39.wav",
        "text": "這個是實際操演"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/40.wav",
        "text": "不是電腦模擬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/41.wav",
        "text": "是電腦模擬的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/42.wav",
        "text": "可以進入到實際的狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/43.wav",
        "text": "所以除了從灰色地帶"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/44.wav",
        "text": "進到防衛作戰的演練"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/45.wav",
        "text": "之外第二個如何快速的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/46.wav",
        "text": "轉換成為戰時的狀態"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/47.wav",
        "text": "從前我們的演習可能是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/48.wav",
        "text": "但就這部分我們國軍的轉換"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/49.wav",
        "text": "是非常重要的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/50.wav",
        "text": "有沒有包含義務役部分的轉換"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/51.wav",
        "text": "義務役跟志願役但我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/52.wav",
        "text": "講國軍整體都是一起講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/53.wav",
        "text": "這個過程當中是只包含"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/54.wav",
        "text": "還是也包含義務役的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/55.wav",
        "text": "委員這裡面區分兩部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/56.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/57.wav",
        "text": "我們現在所謂的常備部隊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/58.wav",
        "text": "也就是我們平時現存的這些部隊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/59.wav",
        "text": "如何去快速的轉換"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/60.wav",
        "text": "另外就是我們如何讓後備的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/61.wav",
        "text": "所以它包含三塊對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/62.wav",
        "text": "我們的志願役"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/63.wav",
        "text": "我們的義務役"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/64.wav",
        "text": "義務役現在應該都是在部隊裡面了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/65.wav",
        "text": "當然當然"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/66.wav",
        "text": "這個跟我們志願役"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/67.wav",
        "text": "還是有一些落差"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/68.wav",
        "text": "他們會轉到後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/69.wav",
        "text": "我們這次演習的部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/70.wav",
        "text": "也把後備加進來了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/71.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/72.wav",
        "text": "OK瞭解了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/73.wav",
        "text": "還有其他部分嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/74.wav",
        "text": "完成這個部分之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/75.wav",
        "text": "我們就按照第三個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/76.wav",
        "text": "也就是按照共軍攻臺的可能行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/77.wav",
        "text": "而且隨著他們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/78.wav",
        "text": "我們調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/79.wav",
        "text": "所以我們這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/80.wav",
        "text": "為什麼需要八天七夜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/81.wav",
        "text": "八天七夜才有足夠的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/82.wav",
        "text": "都非常紮實的去做一個驗證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/83.wav",
        "text": "當然我們很支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/84.wav",
        "text": "先前也問過邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/85.wav",
        "text": "同樣的問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/86.wav",
        "text": "在這次的漢光演習裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/87.wav",
        "text": "是不是也增加了與盟軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/88.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣共同快速協防的相關項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/89.wav",
        "text": "我們都不宜在公開場合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/90.wav",
        "text": "可是上次是邱部長講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/91.wav",
        "text": "你們這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/92.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分確實不宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/93.wav",
        "text": "在公開的場合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/94.wav",
        "text": "好啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/95.wav",
        "text": "我跟您說一下好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/96.wav",
        "text": "你們這樣很可愛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/97.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要改八天七夜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/98.wav",
        "text": "然後他在這個備詢台上說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/99.wav",
        "text": "那是因為要增加跟盟軍的演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/100.wav",
        "text": "所以其實是你們說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/101.wav",
        "text": "不是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/102.wav",
        "text": "我是問問題的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/103.wav",
        "text": "你們是回答問題的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/104.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/105.wav",
        "text": "不宜說的都不宜說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/106.wav",
        "text": "但上次我從質詢台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/107.wav",
        "text": "聽到你們備詢台上的長官們說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/108.wav",
        "text": "我只是再確認一次而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/109.wav",
        "text": "既然這次改成不宜說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/110.wav",
        "text": "那就不說了好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/111.wav",
        "text": "沒有要為難大家的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/112.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我想問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/113.wav",
        "text": "我們的國軍是為哪一個國家而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/114.wav",
        "text": "這應該是部長來回答的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/115.wav",
        "text": "為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/116.wav",
        "text": "為中華民國而戰對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/117.wav",
        "text": "我們的賴清德總統突然說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/118.wav",
        "text": "中華民國也是臺獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/119.wav",
        "text": "請問我們可以解釋說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/120.wav",
        "text": "我們的國軍也是為了臺獨而戰嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/121.wav",
        "text": "能做這樣的解釋嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/122.wav",
        "text": "我想每一個國軍都為國家效忠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/123.wav",
        "text": "為人民效忠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/124.wav",
        "text": "那我們的國家是中華民國還是臺獨呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/125.wav",
        "text": "我們是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/126.wav",
        "text": "啊我想總統的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/127.wav",
        "text": "在中國的眼裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/128.wav",
        "text": "你捍衛中華民國的主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/129.wav",
        "text": "也是一種臺獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/130.wav",
        "text": "我完全懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/131.wav",
        "text": "但是我在這裡也要特別說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/132.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國說了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/133.wav",
        "text": "是它中華人民共和國的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/134.wav",
        "text": "我們中華民國說了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/135.wav",
        "text": "是我們中華民國的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/136.wav",
        "text": "而且我相信我們國軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/137.wav",
        "text": "也有這樣的寄託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/138.wav",
        "text": "要一起為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/139.wav",
        "text": "我相信是這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/140.wav",
        "text": "我們的歷史我們的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/141.wav",
        "text": "我們對國家的熱愛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/142.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們所有的國軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/143.wav",
        "text": "及全民同胞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/144.wav",
        "text": "所有中華民國的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/145.wav",
        "text": "都會一致的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/146.wav",
        "text": "但是中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/147.wav",
        "text": "認為是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/148.wav",
        "text": "那是它家的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/149.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們不需要聽它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/150.wav",
        "text": "難道它叫我們去吃屎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/151.wav",
        "text": "我們就要吃屎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/152.wav",
        "text": "啊\n過去包含嚴德發部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/153.wav",
        "text": "國軍不為臺獨而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/154.wav",
        "text": "中華民國國軍是為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/155.wav",
        "text": "我想要請問一下顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/156.wav",
        "text": "讓我們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/157.wav",
        "text": "對這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/158.wav",
        "text": "的具體態度是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/159.wav",
        "text": "我想每一位國軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/160.wav",
        "text": "都是為國家效忠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/161.wav",
        "text": "為人民效忠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/162.wav",
        "text": "中華民國現在有效的統治區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/163.wav",
        "text": "就是臺澎金馬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/164.wav",
        "text": "的2,300萬人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/165.wav",
        "text": "他們一定會為2,300萬人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/166.wav",
        "text": "現存的民主自由生活方式而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/167.wav",
        "text": "也是基於備戰才能避戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/168.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要維護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/169.wav",
        "text": "臺海的區域和平穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/170.wav",
        "text": "這個就是我們現在的基本態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/171.wav",
        "text": "是因此對於中華人民共和國的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/172.wav",
        "text": "我們中華民國不需要採納"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/173.wav",
        "text": "不需要相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/174.wav",
        "text": "不需要把中華人民共和國的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/175.wav",
        "text": "塞到我們自己臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/176.wav",
        "text": "中華民國人的嘴巴裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/177.wav",
        "text": "中共的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/178.wav",
        "text": "其實就是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/179.wav",
        "text": "就是你主張為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/180.wav",
        "text": "因為它剛剛發布了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/181.wav",
        "text": "22條意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/182.wav",
        "text": "你主張為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/183.wav",
        "text": "在中華人民共和國的眼中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/184.wav",
        "text": "因為你也不是賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/185.wav",
        "text": "所以我不想逼迫你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/186.wav",
        "text": "我知道你沒辦法代表他發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/187.wav",
        "text": "但是我要再一次強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/188.wav",
        "text": "中華民國就是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/189.wav",
        "text": "我們的國軍是為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/190.wav",
        "text": "我們的國軍不是為臺獨而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/191.wav",
        "text": "中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/192.wav",
        "text": "要說中華民國的誰是臺獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/193.wav",
        "text": "不是臺獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/194.wav",
        "text": "那是它家的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/195.wav",
        "text": "不是我們家的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/196.wav",
        "text": "我們就是為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/197.wav",
        "text": "我們的國家奮勇向前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/198.wav",
        "text": "而且我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/199.wav",
        "text": "我們所有的國軍弟兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/200.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們的國防部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/201.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們的參謀總長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/202.wav",
        "text": "都是秉持同樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/203.wav",
        "text": "只有這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/204.wav",
        "text": "我們中華民國才能夠團結在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/205.wav",
        "text": "因此不管是過去的嚴德發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/206.wav",
        "text": "不管是過去的邱國正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/207.wav",
        "text": "以及我相信顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/208.wav",
        "text": "在擔任了部長之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/209.wav",
        "text": "我們希望看到在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/210.wav",
        "text": "在八天七夜的演習中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/211.wav",
        "text": "中所有國軍一起努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/212.wav",
        "text": "為中華民國而戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/213.wav",
        "text": "避戰是最優先的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/214.wav",
        "text": "我們不希望看到兩岸之間生靈塗炭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/215.wav",
        "text": "但我們也要準備好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/216.wav",
        "text": "如果今天真的發生任何狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/217.wav",
        "text": "我們是在準備好的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/218.wav",
        "text": "能夠保家衛國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/219.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/220.wav",
        "text": "是我想每一位國軍都願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/221.wav",
        "text": "為維繫這片土地2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/222.wav",
        "text": ",300萬人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/223.wav",
        "text": "有效的防衛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/224.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長謝謝參謀總長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/225.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154298/226.wav",
        "text": "接下來請林憶君委員上台質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/1.wav",
        "text": "有請顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/2.wav",
        "text": "請顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/3.wav",
        "text": "顧部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/4.wav",
        "text": "本次漢光四十號演習有幾個比較重大的變革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/5.wav",
        "text": "包括取消攻擊軍的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/6.wav",
        "text": "取消預演以及演習的時間與地點不受限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/7.wav",
        "text": "在取消演習預演及演習時間與地點不受限方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/8.wav",
        "text": "大概可以預期會有不少的混亂及錯誤百出的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/9.wav",
        "text": "但本席還是在這裡公開肯定部長面對問題及承擔風險的勇氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/10.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣才是最貼近實際作戰的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/11.wav",
        "text": "2020年漢光演習的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/12.wav",
        "text": "蔡英文曾經說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/13.wav",
        "text": "仗要怎麼打部隊要怎麼練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/14.wav",
        "text": "作戰任務在哪裡部隊就應該在哪裡訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/15.wav",
        "text": "從這次的漢光演習看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/16.wav",
        "text": "作戰的任務在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/17.wav",
        "text": "部隊就會在哪裡訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/18.wav",
        "text": "這個部分其實是有努力去實踐的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/19.wav",
        "text": "但是仗在哪裡打部隊怎麼練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/20.wav",
        "text": "像這次漢光演習實兵操演的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/21.wav",
        "text": "取消了攻擊軍的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/22.wav",
        "text": "第一個實兵對抗演習的目的是分出勝負"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/23.wav",
        "text": "或是考核野戰部隊整體的作戰表現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/24.wav",
        "text": "並且驗證計畫在現地實施時有無問題及效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/25.wav",
        "text": "就是要驗證實戰訓練的成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/26.wav",
        "text": "誘導三軍各級部隊執行聯合作戰計畫的演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/27.wav",
        "text": "所以目的當然就是要檢驗平時訓練的成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/28.wav",
        "text": "第二個問題你覺得電腦兵推與實兵對抗演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/29.wav",
        "text": "是否可以互相取代呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/30.wav",
        "text": "沒有各有各的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/31.wav",
        "text": "很重要的因為它是到戰役層級來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/32.wav",
        "text": "的戰術層級應該是這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/33.wav",
        "text": "過去漢光演習的實兵操演都有紅藍軍對抗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/34.wav",
        "text": "表演的性質比較濃厚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/35.wav",
        "text": "因為實兵對抗演習的目的其實不在勝負"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/36.wav",
        "text": "而是在於驗證兵推實施的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/37.wav",
        "text": "找尋實際實施計畫可能會出現的錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/38.wav",
        "text": "並藉由實兵不實彈的仿真演習達到縮小戰訓差距的目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/39.wav",
        "text": "目前實兵對抗仍然是世界主要國家重要的練兵模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/40.wav",
        "text": "而且解放軍在朱日和基地建成後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/41.wav",
        "text": "所以目前實兵抗戰仍是一個無法取代的訓練方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/42.wav",
        "text": "請教部長你知不知道目前國軍有哪些稱得上是實兵對抗的年度演習呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/43.wav",
        "text": "我們有一些實兵對抗的操演大概都還在進行著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/44.wav",
        "text": "委員好我是訓練次長室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/45.wav",
        "text": "包含剛剛洪委員提到的陸軍長青操演也都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/46.wav",
        "text": "除了包含剛剛部長說明的驗證我們的實戰化訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/47.wav",
        "text": "我們這次只採取少部分的海上及空中兵力當成假設敵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/48.wav",
        "text": "但是針對它自己在戰時的任務我們要利用這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/49.wav",
        "text": "讓它在它的作戰任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/50.wav",
        "text": "及作戰地境來磨練它的作戰計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/51.wav",
        "text": "同時讓官兵熟稔它的作戰場域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/52.wav",
        "text": "我們是基於這個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/53.wav",
        "text": "不同在這邊特別向委員做個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/54.wav",
        "text": "年度的對抗性演練還是會存在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/55.wav",
        "text": "只是這次漢光要讓所有的部隊特別是地面部隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/56.wav",
        "text": "讓所有的部隊都能落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/57.wav",
        "text": "有些兵力要做戰備及紀律的訓練之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/58.wav",
        "text": "其他都要落實演練自己的防衛作戰任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/59.wav",
        "text": "讓他們熟悉戰場的環境與戰鬥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/60.wav",
        "text": "實兵對抗還是會有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/61.wav",
        "text": "對除了剛才說的長青操演對抗演習之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/62.wav",
        "text": "陸海空三棲聯合進犯的大規模演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/63.wav",
        "text": "如果考量到我們的航特部及登陸戰車大隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/64.wav",
        "text": "等需要熟悉戰時任務的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/65.wav",
        "text": "其實也可以縮小紅軍的規模"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/66.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以改由營級或排級每年輪流擔任紅軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/67.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以從聯兵旅抽調一些單位出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/68.wav",
        "text": "一起扮演紅軍無論在實兵驗證或熟悉戰時任務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/69.wav",
        "text": "我覺得兵棋推演及軍事上演習的輸贏其實不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/70.wav",
        "text": "實際上對手的能力越強越能磨練出我們的戰鬥力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/71.wav",
        "text": "而且越困難的處境想必更能激發指揮官將資源發揮到最大的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/72.wav",
        "text": "以及將所有訓練推向實戰化其實有很高的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/73.wav",
        "text": "希望我們能夠做到備戰而不畏戰能戰而不求戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/74.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員的指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/75.wav",
        "text": "我還有一個問題要請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/76.wav",
        "text": "今年漢光演習的時序是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/77.wav",
        "text": "你是說時間嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/78.wav",
        "text": "不是時序是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/79.wav",
        "text": "從戰力保存整體防空海上聯合截擊到國土防衛作戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/80.wav",
        "text": "這次漢光演習雖然沒有納入戰備跑道的起降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/81.wav",
        "text": "但本席要特別提醒部長在戰力保存的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/82.wav",
        "text": "我們空軍的戰力保存成效其實是有關作戰的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/83.wav",
        "text": "要是喪失了空優臺海防衛就會陷入非常不利的局面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/84.wav",
        "text": "請教部長目前我們的空軍戰力保存有哪些手段呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/85.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是請空軍來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/86.wav",
        "text": "委員好我是空軍參謀長曹進平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/87.wav",
        "text": "有不同的方法包括空中的飛行器以及機場的分散部署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/88.wav",
        "text": "其他還包括地面的防衛部隊戰術雷達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/89.wav",
        "text": "都有不同的方式在執行按照我們的戰術目的分別規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/90.wav",
        "text": "其實共軍很了解空優的重要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/91.wav",
        "text": "我們的機場跑道都是共軍第一個打擊的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/92.wav",
        "text": "因此使用公路的戰備跑道是空軍重要的戰力保存手段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/93.wav",
        "text": "部長是否知道這5條公路的戰備跑道過去有幾次的起降演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/94.wav",
        "text": "報告委員這個還是由我為您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/95.wav",
        "text": "關於這5個戰備跑道過去在佳冬與民雄曾經做過2次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/96.wav",
        "text": "其他的各段都分別做過1次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/97.wav",
        "text": "OK所以空軍的戰力保存是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/98.wav",
        "text": "然而每次戰備道的開設其實是很不容易也不方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/99.wav",
        "text": "但是戰備道的起降如果沒有納入國軍的演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/100.wav",
        "text": "每一條戰備道大約就只有1次或2次而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/101.wav",
        "text": "這樣看來都是停留在驗證的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/102.wav",
        "text": "我這樣講應該沒有錯吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/103.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我來補充報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/104.wav",
        "text": "其實戰備道有兩個等級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/105.wav",
        "text": "一個叫機場戰備道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/106.wav",
        "text": "一個叫公路戰備道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/107.wav",
        "text": "所以在每個機場裡也有戰備道的設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/108.wav",
        "text": "我們平常為了要保持熟練在機場戰備道的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/109.wav",
        "text": "會儘量多演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/110.wav",
        "text": "在公路戰備道的部分則是儘量減少擾民的程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/111.wav",
        "text": "因為它的影響程度比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/112.wav",
        "text": "所以配合每年演習的構想按照需求來規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/113.wav",
        "text": "來看我發現每次起降演習基本上都是三種型號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/114.wav",
        "text": "的主力戰機各一架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/115.wav",
        "text": "再加上鷹眼的預演機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/116.wav",
        "text": "但是空軍未來可能會有超過200架的F-16"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/117.wav",
        "text": "130架的IDF及五十幾架的幻象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/118.wav",
        "text": "這三型的主力戰機總共有380架左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/119.wav",
        "text": "如果臺海發生衝突的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/120.wav",
        "text": "空軍要做戰力保存的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/121.wav",
        "text": "這5條戰備道會只有15架的戰機起降嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/122.wav",
        "text": "這樣空軍的戰力保存實戰化是不是有很大的進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/123.wav",
        "text": "空間呢是不是需要改善呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/124.wav",
        "text": "不是完全靠公路戰備道來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/125.wav",
        "text": "還有其他方式來配套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/126.wav",
        "text": "而公路戰備道是可以提供必要時作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/127.wav",
        "text": "為戰機起降及必要的整補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/128.wav",
        "text": "以支應後續的作戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/129.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/130.wav",
        "text": "維持國防戰力保護我們臺灣人民的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154299/131.wav",
        "text": "接下來請翁曉玲委員上台質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/0.wav",
        "text": "主席在場的委員先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/1.wav",
        "text": "列席的政府機關首長官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/2.wav",
        "text": "會場工作夥伴媒體記者源女士先生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/3.wav",
        "text": "有請經濟部連次長和台電曾董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/4.wav",
        "text": "好請以上兩位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/5.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/6.wav",
        "text": "次長好董事長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/7.wav",
        "text": "在不久前我們郭部長做了一個描述很傳神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/8.wav",
        "text": "說台積電的良率次長有沒有聽過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/9.wav",
        "text": "他說台積電的良率像蒸1,000個小籠包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/10.wav",
        "text": "950個都完整沒有破皮的你有聽到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/11.wav",
        "text": "有有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/12.wav",
        "text": "嘛那你覺得台積電的良率是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/13.wav",
        "text": "95.5%是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/14.wav",
        "text": "有的應該更高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/15.wav",
        "text": "有的更高不良的大概只有0.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/16.wav",
        "text": "那同樣的台電的用戶有多少戶你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/17.wav",
        "text": "董事長知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/18.wav",
        "text": "超過1,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/19.wav",
        "text": "1,500萬戶用這個良率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/20.wav",
        "text": "才算是優良"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/21.wav",
        "text": "1,500萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/22.wav",
        "text": "董事長你算數比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/23.wav",
        "text": "你說95%嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/24.wav",
        "text": "那就是要小於75萬戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/25.wav",
        "text": "就是停電要少於75萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/26.wav",
        "text": "請問台電維持每天都這個標準嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/27.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我這樣講喔這個標準有點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/28.wav",
        "text": "我們的標準不敢放那麼低啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/29.wav",
        "text": "喔所以你們可能要99.9%的良率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/30.wav",
        "text": "超越台積電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/31.wav",
        "text": "也沒有到那麼高啦就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/32.wav",
        "text": "我們可能不敢到75萬戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/33.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有到那麼高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/34.wav",
        "text": "只要5萬戶你們就會被釘滿頭包啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/35.wav",
        "text": "可能也沒有超過5萬戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/36.wav",
        "text": "所以我是覺得呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/37.wav",
        "text": "次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/38.wav",
        "text": "你們要對我們的國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/39.wav",
        "text": "訂出一個類似台積電良率的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/40.wav",
        "text": "一般的航空公司有哩程事故率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/41.wav",
        "text": "多少萬哩程才出一個事故"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/42.wav",
        "text": "多少萬的供電戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/43.wav",
        "text": "我們才多久時間發生一個電力事故"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/44.wav",
        "text": "把這個定給台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/45.wav",
        "text": "讓他來好好表現好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/46.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/47.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/48.wav",
        "text": "好可以董事長可以接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/49.wav",
        "text": "\n我來問一下今天的題目是退休潮啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/50.wav",
        "text": "說到出現斷層有這個情況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/51.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/52.wav",
        "text": "有沒有你國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/53.wav",
        "text": "現在退休潮已經慢慢開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/54.wav",
        "text": "穩住了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/55.wav",
        "text": "但是我要跟你強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/56.wav",
        "text": "我關心的不是台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/57.wav",
        "text": "中油我關心的是這一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/58.wav",
        "text": "來請看下一頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/59.wav",
        "text": "你知道我們屏東縣的自來水普及率多少嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/60.wav",
        "text": "我們董事長可以幫忙一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/61.wav",
        "text": "有沒有達到八成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/62.wav",
        "text": "次長知不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/63.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/64.wav",
        "text": "請問你覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/65.wav",
        "text": "屏東縣的自來水普及率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/66.wav",
        "text": "好不容易才從不到六成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/67.wav",
        "text": "提升到快七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/68.wav",
        "text": "主要問題是人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/69.wav",
        "text": "還是預算不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/70.wav",
        "text": "其實也不是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/71.wav",
        "text": "應該更早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/72.wav",
        "text": "從不到五成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/73.wav",
        "text": "106年是不到五成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/74.wav",
        "text": "現在已經突破七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/75.wav",
        "text": "問題是出在預算不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/76.wav",
        "text": "還是人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/77.wav",
        "text": "這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/78.wav",
        "text": "應該不是人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/79.wav",
        "text": "不是人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/80.wav",
        "text": "但是我問過主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/81.wav",
        "text": "前任主計長跟現任主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/82.wav",
        "text": "我統統編給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/83.wav",
        "text": "過去前瞻幾期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/84.wav",
        "text": "是不是得到全力的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/85.wav",
        "text": "這個因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/86.wav",
        "text": "預算是不是得到支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/87.wav",
        "text": "我們從前瞻計畫裡面有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/88.wav",
        "text": "你直接簡單的講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/89.wav",
        "text": "因為時間有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/90.wav",
        "text": "有沒有全力支持你的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/91.wav",
        "text": "這個預算是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/92.wav",
        "text": "水利署都來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/93.wav",
        "text": "全力支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/94.wav",
        "text": "明年的只給20億你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/95.wav",
        "text": "因為主計總處說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/96.wav",
        "text": "次長你了解問題了沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/97.wav",
        "text": "關於水公司目前的量能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/98.wav",
        "text": "我們給他再多的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/99.wav",
        "text": "他沒辦法執行發包完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/100.wav",
        "text": "是不是人力太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/101.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/102.wav",
        "text": "應該不止19億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/103.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/104.wav",
        "text": "汰換管線工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/105.wav",
        "text": "所以你們大概可以做到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/106.wav",
        "text": "屏東區處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/107.wav",
        "text": "一年大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/108.wav",
        "text": "二三十億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/109.wav",
        "text": "還有我們一個工程處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/110.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/111.wav",
        "text": "屏東區處可以做到30億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/112.wav",
        "text": "包括工程處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/113.wav",
        "text": "那我就去跟主計長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/114.wav",
        "text": "要求要給我們30億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/115.wav",
        "text": "加強屏東市自來水的普及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/116.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/117.wav",
        "text": "你保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/118.wav",
        "text": "他答應囉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/119.wav",
        "text": "我就去要錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/120.wav",
        "text": "委員我們已經送了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/121.wav",
        "text": "800億的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/122.wav",
        "text": "在行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/123.wav",
        "text": "普及率的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/124.wav",
        "text": "我們是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/125.wav",
        "text": "積極在你們在占"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/126.wav",
        "text": "其實過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/127.wav",
        "text": "在111年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/128.wav",
        "text": "編了20.5億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/129.wav",
        "text": "112年編了17億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/130.wav",
        "text": "113年編了15億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/131.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/132.wav",
        "text": "這個是關於延管工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/133.wav",
        "text": "還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/134.wav",
        "text": "叫做簡易自來水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/135.wav",
        "text": "我知道你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/136.wav",
        "text": "明年度的簡易自來水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/137.wav",
        "text": "但是非原住民地區是不是刪掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/138.wav",
        "text": "次長是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/139.wav",
        "text": "是因為什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/140.wav",
        "text": "錢不夠還是人力不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/141.wav",
        "text": "次長直接回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/142.wav",
        "text": "你如果說錢不夠我就去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/143.wav",
        "text": "這個是水利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/144.wav",
        "text": "署不是自來水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/145.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/146.wav",
        "text": "我知道簡易自來水是水利署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/147.wav",
        "text": "問你也剛好而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/148.wav",
        "text": "啊是人不夠還是錢不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/149.wav",
        "text": "應該是發包的人力不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/150.wav",
        "text": "人不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/151.wav",
        "text": "好我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/152.wav",
        "text": "其實你們的人力要加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/153.wav",
        "text": "曾董事長可以先請回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/154.wav",
        "text": "我要留下李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/155.wav",
        "text": "要誇獎他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/156.wav",
        "text": "\n目前國營事業要滿足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/157.wav",
        "text": "其實自來水工程有它的優勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/158.wav",
        "text": "你們目前的管線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/159.wav",
        "text": "是世界最長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/160.wav",
        "text": "有6萬公里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/161.wav",
        "text": "供水人口最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/162.wav",
        "text": "超過1,800萬人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/163.wav",
        "text": "你們有這些優勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/164.wav",
        "text": "次長你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/165.wav",
        "text": "知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/166.wav",
        "text": "董事長也跟他講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/167.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/168.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/169.wav",
        "text": "這四十年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/170.wav",
        "text": "你們在水質污染處理問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/171.wav",
        "text": "上有薄膜技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/172.wav",
        "text": "你們在極端氣候旱澇不均的情況下還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/173.wav",
        "text": "提供水質水量的穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/174.wav",
        "text": "是不是你們一度要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/175.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/176.wav",
        "text": "有這個之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/177.wav",
        "text": "有要協助新南向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/178.wav",
        "text": "哪一個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/179.wav",
        "text": "印尼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/180.wav",
        "text": "印尼我常去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/181.wav",
        "text": "印尼真的需要協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/182.wav",
        "text": "次長我要告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/183.wav",
        "text": "如果你們擔心水公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/184.wav",
        "text": "這幾年擴充人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/185.wav",
        "text": "待國內自來水普及提升之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/186.wav",
        "text": "這些人力沒處去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/187.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/188.wav",
        "text": "叫做ODA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/189.wav",
        "text": "──政府開發援助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/190.wav",
        "text": "在中國叫作一帶一路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/191.wav",
        "text": "但是在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/192.wav",
        "text": "我們的國營事業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/193.wav",
        "text": "工程品質優良"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/194.wav",
        "text": "超過中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/195.wav",
        "text": "臺灣政府的信用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/196.wav",
        "text": "超過中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/197.wav",
        "text": "它什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/198.wav",
        "text": "臺灣政府提供貸款給對手國"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/199.wav",
        "text": "對手國把這個貸款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/200.wav",
        "text": "用來雇請臺灣的營建工程商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/201.wav",
        "text": "幫他們做基礎建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/202.wav",
        "text": "公共設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/203.wav",
        "text": "錢都不會到外國政府口袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/204.wav",
        "text": "統統都回到臺灣的承包商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/205.wav",
        "text": "知道這個ODA吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/206.wav",
        "text": "我們國內的基礎建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/207.wav",
        "text": "如果國營事業行有餘力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/208.wav",
        "text": "完成之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/209.wav",
        "text": "這些充實的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/210.wav",
        "text": "而是這些優質人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/211.wav",
        "text": "可以用來協助政府做ODA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/212.wav",
        "text": "你支不支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/213.wav",
        "text": "次長支不支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/214.wav",
        "text": "支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/215.wav",
        "text": "支持好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/216.wav",
        "text": "水公司的人力多支持一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/217.wav",
        "text": "預算我來幫你爭取好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/218.wav",
        "text": "好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/219.wav",
        "text": "如果以後有這個量能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/220.wav",
        "text": "幫其他的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/221.wav",
        "text": "友邦國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/222.wav",
        "text": "興建他們的基礎建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/223.wav",
        "text": "用ODA的方式好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/224.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/225.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/226.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/227.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/228.wav",
        "text": "主計總處要告訴他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154300/229.wav",
        "text": "不要亂講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/0.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/2.wav",
        "text": "大家都清楚現在的需求度越來越高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/3.wav",
        "text": "在學生輔導方面的考量並沒有那麼全面性但"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/4.wav",
        "text": "輔導範圍範疇和需求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/5.wav",
        "text": "它的面向越來越廣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/6.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望這次的學生輔導法修法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/7.wav",
        "text": "修法可以一次修好修滿修足"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/8.wav",
        "text": "師資的部分專業的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/9.wav",
        "text": "這是我們這次修法的重點"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/10.wav",
        "text": "規範的內容比較混亂一點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/11.wav",
        "text": "並沒有做那麼詳細的正面表列一樣一樣的敘述"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/12.wav",
        "text": "所以本席這次提案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/13.wav",
        "text": "希望明定學生輔導諮詢會的委員成員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/14.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們要考量到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/15.wav",
        "text": "是學生這是非常清楚"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/16.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要增列很多相關的專業人員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/17.wav",
        "text": "包括臨床心理師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/18.wav",
        "text": "社會工作師"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/19.wav",
        "text": "還有精神科醫師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/20.wav",
        "text": "所以我們把這些樣態非常清楚的一一呈現"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/21.wav",
        "text": "\n不論是小學中學高中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/22.wav",
        "text": "甚至到技職教育大學教育其實都是一樣"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/23.wav",
        "text": "的因為這是大家的需求"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/24.wav",
        "text": "就是希望能夠協助學生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/25.wav",
        "text": "得到應有的心理諮商與輔導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/26.wav",
        "text": "每個人遇到的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/27.wav",
        "text": "心裡面的困境也不同"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/28.wav",
        "text": "這是本席第5條修法的重點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/29.wav",
        "text": "還有我們的學生輔導法裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/30.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望學校的行政單位"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/31.wav",
        "text": "也應該協助一些必須執行的項目"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/32.wav",
        "text": "學生的自我傷害行為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/33.wav",
        "text": "我們要怎麼主動提供輔導資源"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/34.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的前提之下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/35.wav",
        "text": "主動介入就很重要了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/36.wav",
        "text": "案如果沒有注意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/37.wav",
        "text": "可能就會變成大事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/38.wav",
        "text": "從小的自傷變成大的自傷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/39.wav",
        "text": "可能會導致無法挽回一條生命"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/40.wav",
        "text": "且明顯有輔導需求的學生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/41.wav",
        "text": "\n我們知道現在的學生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/42.wav",
        "text": "可能因為接觸的訊息太多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/43.wav",
        "text": "接收到的媒體網路非常廣泛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/44.wav",
        "text": "知道有人在關心注意把他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/45.wav",
        "text": "們納入我們主動輔導的需求對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/46.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在第7條第3項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/47.wav",
        "text": "的輔導對象主動出擊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/48.wav",
        "text": "也一併增列學生校外生活輔導會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/49.wav",
        "text": "必須成為學校結合的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/50.wav",
        "text": "部長本席看過你們的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/51.wav",
        "text": "怎麼讓我們有一個更好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/52.wav",
        "text": "包括委員剛才所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/53.wav",
        "text": "所以目標一致嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/54.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠建立學生輔導的行列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/55.wav",
        "text": "而且所有的細項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/56.wav",
        "text": "要由小到大把它做到最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154301/57.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/0.wav",
        "text": "我想我就直接請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/1.wav",
        "text": "各署的署長跟局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/2.wav",
        "text": "違憲擴權的立法院職權行使法通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/3.wav",
        "text": "覆議案當然失敗了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/4.wav",
        "text": "都提出釋憲或暫時處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/5.wav",
        "text": "我想請教的是大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/6.wav",
        "text": "在執行公務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/7.wav",
        "text": "碰到任何問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/8.wav",
        "text": "在過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/9.wav",
        "text": "現在違憲擴權法案一通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/10.wav",
        "text": "立法院可以調你任何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/11.wav",
        "text": "包括承辦同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/12.wav",
        "text": "都可能面臨到必須到國會出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/13.wav",
        "text": "宋署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/14.wav",
        "text": "局還有各區稽徵所"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/15.wav",
        "text": "還有稅務同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/16.wav",
        "text": "比如審一科審二科審三科"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/17.wav",
        "text": "立法院擴權之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/18.wav",
        "text": "所進行的調查權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/19.wav",
        "text": "如果不出席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/20.wav",
        "text": "他還要被處以刑責"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/21.wav",
        "text": "罰責"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/22.wav",
        "text": "基層同仁的反應怎麼樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/23.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/24.wav",
        "text": "假設法律真的生效了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/25.wav",
        "text": "整個規範都出來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/26.wav",
        "text": "現在已經通過了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/27.wav",
        "text": "啊就是等總統公布之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/28.wav",
        "text": "現在聲請釋憲嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/29.wav",
        "text": "在釋憲的空窗期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/30.wav",
        "text": "還要暫停處分如果還沒出來之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/31.wav",
        "text": "有某某委員要把你的同仁調來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/32.wav",
        "text": "你這些同仁做何感想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/33.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有聽聽他們的反應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/34.wav",
        "text": "目前是沒有特別去瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/35.wav",
        "text": "基層同仁的反應"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/36.wav",
        "text": "吳局長跟李局長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/37.wav",
        "text": "兩位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/38.wav",
        "text": "你們下轄很多稽徵所"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/39.wav",
        "text": "比如審一科審二科這些同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/40.wav",
        "text": "都跟民眾的權益有相關性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/41.wav",
        "text": "又處理很多案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/42.wav",
        "text": "未來立法院進行調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/43.wav",
        "text": "他們的感覺是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/44.wav",
        "text": "請吳局長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/45.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/46.wav",
        "text": "我們的業務性質是比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/47.wav",
        "text": "同仁有沒有跟你反映過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/48.wav",
        "text": "目前倒是沒有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/49.wav",
        "text": "但是就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/50.wav",
        "text": "有一些稅務案件要解決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/51.wav",
        "text": "我們都會盡力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/52.wav",
        "text": "然後是依法去課稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/53.wav",
        "text": "對但是現在調查權無限擴張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/54.wav",
        "text": "嘛已經到違憲的階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/55.wav",
        "text": "國稅局下轄的稽徵所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/56.wav",
        "text": "或是把審一科審二科的科長調來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/57.wav",
        "text": "他不能拒絕出席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/58.wav",
        "text": "你要去瞭解他們的感受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/59.wav",
        "text": "他可能會面對這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/60.wav",
        "text": "\n再請教李局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/61.wav",
        "text": "同仁有沒有跟你反映過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/62.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/63.wav",
        "text": "目前我沒有接收到同仁的反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/64.wav",
        "text": "你要去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/65.wav",
        "text": "你也要去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/66.wav",
        "text": "或者質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/67.wav",
        "text": "等等公務人員全部被調來問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/68.wav",
        "text": "他們會不會有這個疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/69.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/70.wav",
        "text": "可能產生一些問題的關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/71.wav",
        "text": "不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/72.wav",
        "text": "因為我們基層同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/73.wav",
        "text": "大家都逆來順受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/74.wav",
        "text": "有效的法律我們就會去執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/75.wav",
        "text": "那是你逆來順受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/76.wav",
        "text": "還是同仁逆來順受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/77.wav",
        "text": "你要去瞭解同仁的感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/78.wav",
        "text": "去瞭解同仁的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/79.wav",
        "text": "不是你逆來順受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/80.wav",
        "text": "很多事情不能逆來順受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/81.wav",
        "text": "好我會關切同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/82.wav",
        "text": "不合理的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/83.wav",
        "text": "要抗爭不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/84.wav",
        "text": "就是要積極爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/85.wav",
        "text": "還是有效的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/86.wav",
        "text": "那你也可以要求你的同仁逆來順受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/87.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣態度不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/88.wav",
        "text": "不管是關務署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/89.wav",
        "text": "國稅局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/90.wav",
        "text": "都要跟相關同仁做一些座談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/91.wav",
        "text": "瞭解他們的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/92.wav",
        "text": "因為他們可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/93.wav",
        "text": "未來會面臨到國會這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/94.wav",
        "text": "違法擴權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/95.wav",
        "text": "或是調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/96.wav",
        "text": "該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/97.wav",
        "text": "據理力爭就要據理力爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/98.wav",
        "text": "該辯護的時候就要辯護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/99.wav",
        "text": "特別拜託彭署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/100.wav",
        "text": "你要去跟你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/101.wav",
        "text": "各關務長及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/102.wav",
        "text": "各基層人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/103.wav",
        "text": "辦一個座談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/104.wav",
        "text": "會瞭解他們的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/105.wav",
        "text": "續請教國產署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/106.wav",
        "text": "曾署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/107.wav",
        "text": "你有北區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/108.wav",
        "text": "樣態非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/109.wav",
        "text": "難免"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/110.wav",
        "text": "比方說立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/111.wav",
        "text": "如果把你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/112.wav",
        "text": "分署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/113.wav",
        "text": "調來問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/114.wav",
        "text": "或者是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/115.wav",
        "text": "調來問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/116.wav",
        "text": "他們的想法怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/117.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/118.wav",
        "text": "國產署所有的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/119.wav",
        "text": "都是依法行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/120.wav",
        "text": "如果有各機關對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/121.wav",
        "text": "我們行政過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/122.wav",
        "text": "有質疑的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/123.wav",
        "text": "我們都會予以釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/124.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有基層的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/125.wav",
        "text": "到立法院來接受備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/126.wav",
        "text": "但是未來有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/127.wav",
        "text": "你們最基層的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/128.wav",
        "text": "都會來立法院接受詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/129.wav",
        "text": "我想大部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/130.wav",
        "text": "應該都是署長會出席比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/131.wav",
        "text": "不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/132.wav",
        "text": "你所有的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/133.wav",
        "text": "只要執行公務有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/134.wav",
        "text": "因為調查需要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/135.wav",
        "text": "都可以把他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/136.wav",
        "text": "不是你說你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/137.wav",
        "text": "曾署長來代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/138.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/139.wav",
        "text": "所以你要了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/140.wav",
        "text": "通過對你們同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/141.wav",
        "text": "在執行業務所受的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/142.wav",
        "text": "對心理面的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/143.wav",
        "text": "我看你們好像都不了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/144.wav",
        "text": "最後30秒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/145.wav",
        "text": "請所屬相關的署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/146.wav",
        "text": "關務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/147.wav",
        "text": "國產署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/148.wav",
        "text": "跟所有同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/149.wav",
        "text": "基層同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/150.wav",
        "text": "做一些理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/151.wav",
        "text": "做一些座談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/152.wav",
        "text": "讓他們了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/153.wav",
        "text": "這個法律對他們的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/154.wav",
        "text": "以及他們的感受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/155.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/156.wav",
        "text": "這點能不能做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/157.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/158.wav",
        "text": "不是指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/159.wav",
        "text": "是那你的作法是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/160.wav",
        "text": "其實在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/161.wav",
        "text": "那兩天的質詢裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/162.wav",
        "text": "院長也都說得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/163.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/164.wav",
        "text": "對於這個法的一些做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/165.wav",
        "text": "以及為什麼要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/166.wav",
        "text": "覆議的理由等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/167.wav",
        "text": "那就涉及到機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/168.wav",
        "text": "還有我們相關的公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/169.wav",
        "text": "甚至人民的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/170.wav",
        "text": "會有受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/171.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/172.wav",
        "text": "院長已經說得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/173.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/174.wav",
        "text": "也可以從詢答裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/175.wav",
        "text": "去了解這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/176.wav",
        "text": "新的狀況你要了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/177.wav",
        "text": "現在覆議失敗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/178.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/179.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/180.wav",
        "text": "我們提出釋憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/181.wav",
        "text": "暫停處但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/182.wav",
        "text": "期如果公布之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/183.wav",
        "text": "這法律就生效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/184.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/185.wav",
        "text": "部長請回去注意一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/186.wav",
        "text": "了解同仁的感受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/187.wav",
        "text": "注意一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/188.wav",
        "text": "好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/189.wav",
        "text": "\n接著請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/190.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/191.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/192.wav",
        "text": "蘇清泉委員不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/193.wav",
        "text": "\n接著請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154302/194.wav",
        "text": "王世堅委員質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/0.wav",
        "text": "有請莊部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/1.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/2.wav",
        "text": "莊部長這兩個月有一個新的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/3.wav",
        "text": "就是關於新青安房貸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/4.wav",
        "text": "這恐怕會變成炒房工具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/5.wav",
        "text": "從五月份我們就談了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/6.wav",
        "text": "財政部也有答應信誓旦旦說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/7.wav",
        "text": "一定會去做一些處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/8.wav",
        "text": "但是從五月你們喊說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/9.wav",
        "text": "要加強勾稽以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/10.wav",
        "text": "事實上你們是勾而不稽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/11.wav",
        "text": "雷大雨小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/12.wav",
        "text": "沒有實質的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/13.wav",
        "text": "你所任命的九大行庫董事長總經理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/14.wav",
        "text": "他們不當一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/15.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/16.wav",
        "text": "跟財政部的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/17.wav",
        "text": "你們打算要去勾稽去做查核之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/18.wav",
        "text": "反而激出另外一波的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/19.wav",
        "text": "他們搶著上車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/20.wav",
        "text": "\n部長如果是真的需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/21.wav",
        "text": "青年首購族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/22.wav",
        "text": "這個我們沒話講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/23.wav",
        "text": "可是現在所知道的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/24.wav",
        "text": "並不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/25.wav",
        "text": "其實都已經被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/26.wav",
        "text": "部分不肖建商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/27.wav",
        "text": "透過人頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/28.wav",
        "text": "甚至很多炒作房屋的大戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/29.wav",
        "text": "來利用新青安貸款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/30.wav",
        "text": "他們取得大量的房舍然後再去轉租"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/31.wav",
        "text": "我們總質詢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/32.wav",
        "text": "行政院有注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/33.wav",
        "text": "這個禮拜四要公布決策找你們去談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/34.wav",
        "text": "其實方向很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/35.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/36.wav",
        "text": "我相信跟你們財政部的作法也都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/37.wav",
        "text": "都認為有一些共識結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/38.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/39.wav",
        "text": "貸前要嚴格審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/40.wav",
        "text": "強化貸後的稽查管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/41.wav",
        "text": "還有要求他們簽自住的切結書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/42.wav",
        "text": "\n但是我要請問你的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/43.wav",
        "text": "到底是跟進不跟進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/44.wav",
        "text": "到底要不要實質來配合政府這個政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/45.wav",
        "text": "還是他們默許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/46.wav",
        "text": "他們放任新青安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/47.wav",
        "text": "還是任由他們的授信人員繼續再做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/48.wav",
        "text": "再搭配建設公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/49.wav",
        "text": "銷售他們的餘屋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/50.wav",
        "text": "然後提高房價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/51.wav",
        "text": "你認為呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/52.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有辦法指揮這九大公股行庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/53.wav",
        "text": "都會配合政府的政策去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/54.wav",
        "text": "對於所採取的相關精進措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/55.wav",
        "text": "也會去落實執行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/56.wav",
        "text": "你就簡單一句說會配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/57.wav",
        "text": "我就跟你講說五月它就不配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/58.wav",
        "text": "五月就只有財政部講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/59.wav",
        "text": "就應該算數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/60.wav",
        "text": "哦這九大公股行庫都是你任命的董事長總經理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/61.wav",
        "text": "你交代一下就像地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/62.wav",
        "text": "他們就要立刻站好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/63.wav",
        "text": "好好檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/64.wav",
        "text": "結果不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/65.wav",
        "text": "他繼續放他的款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/66.wav",
        "text": "你看我光是講這個戶數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/67.wav",
        "text": "他想說他這麼大的戶數要如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/68.wav",
        "text": "去勾稽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/69.wav",
        "text": "光是五月就撥貸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/70.wav",
        "text": "8,273戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/71.wav",
        "text": "哦800多戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/72.wav",
        "text": "哦他就吃定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/73.wav",
        "text": "財政部怎麼去勾稽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/74.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的心態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/75.wav",
        "text": "八月光是前五大行庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/76.wav",
        "text": "他們就撥貸超過1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/77.wav",
        "text": "新青安房貸占了636億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/78.wav",
        "text": "元戶數這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/79.wav",
        "text": "他想說來吧要查你來查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/80.wav",
        "text": "錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/81.wav",
        "text": "查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/82.wav",
        "text": "就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/83.wav",
        "text": "放款行庫的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/84.wav",
        "text": "你放的款你就去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/85.wav",
        "text": "查出來把結果告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/86.wav",
        "text": "是不是應當這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/87.wav",
        "text": "好啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/88.wav",
        "text": "那你跟他要求啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/89.wav",
        "text": "給我們財政委員會一個報告說查得怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/90.wav",
        "text": "難道還要等到禮拜四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/91.wav",
        "text": "難道要等行政院再下達命令嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/92.wav",
        "text": "\n行政院已經很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/93.wav",
        "text": "包括好幾位立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/94.wav",
        "text": "我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/95.wav",
        "text": "對院長總質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/96.wav",
        "text": "都提到這個問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/97.wav",
        "text": "院長也深覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/98.wav",
        "text": "這確實是個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/99.wav",
        "text": "因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/100.wav",
        "text": "除了多帶出這些假借新青安的名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/101.wav",
        "text": "其實在做炒作的以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/102.wav",
        "text": "最主要也拉高了房價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/103.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/104.wav",
        "text": "光南港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/105.wav",
        "text": "哦這個都不是危言聳聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/106.wav",
        "text": "根據實價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/107.wav",
        "text": "銷售"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/108.wav",
        "text": "光南港一坪就增加20萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/109.wav",
        "text": "這幾個月來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/110.wav",
        "text": "造價沒有增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/111.wav",
        "text": "建商地已經買了合建契約也都簽了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/112.wav",
        "text": "它成本沒增加之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/113.wav",
        "text": "一建坪多賣20萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/114.wav",
        "text": "如果是一個上班族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/115.wav",
        "text": "買個30坪就要多600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/116.wav",
        "text": "等於同樣的房子同樣的地段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/117.wav",
        "text": "跟他買一戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/118.wav",
        "text": "在這兩個月新青安助長之下要多600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/119.wav",
        "text": "多送這個建商一部保時捷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/120.wav",
        "text": "你才有辦法取得這個房屋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/121.wav",
        "text": "天啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/122.wav",
        "text": "一戶多600萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/123.wav",
        "text": "我們升斗小民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/124.wav",
        "text": "辛辛苦苦地靠那一點微薄的薪水來過活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/125.wav",
        "text": "我們竟然要籌齊一部保時捷的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/126.wav",
        "text": "送給建商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/127.wav",
        "text": "才有辦法買得起30坪的小房屋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/128.wav",
        "text": "而且這個地方是在南港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/129.wav",
        "text": "還不是在市中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/130.wav",
        "text": "\n其他地方更是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/131.wav",
        "text": "我們臺北市整體平均房價高達97.55萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/132.wav",
        "text": "100萬找4,500塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/133.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為這個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/134.wav",
        "text": "要麼財政部不做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/135.wav",
        "text": "要不然你就說九大公股行庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/136.wav",
        "text": "的董事長總經理以後不要來找你任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/137.wav",
        "text": "否則你任命他的你就要管得住他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/138.wav",
        "text": "哪一個調皮搗蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/139.wav",
        "text": "哪一個抵制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/140.wav",
        "text": "你就把哪一個抽換掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/141.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/142.wav",
        "text": "這九大行庫董事長總經理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/143.wav",
        "text": "的任期大概也都快到了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/144.wav",
        "text": "正是你可以好好整頓的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/145.wav",
        "text": "啊所以這個議題我先到這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/146.wav",
        "text": "我就看後續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/147.wav",
        "text": "你六月份的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/148.wav",
        "text": "五月份已經造成房價高漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/149.wav",
        "text": "也激增了800多戶新青安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/150.wav",
        "text": "擠出了他們趕上車的這一批"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/151.wav",
        "text": "那就看你六月份的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/152.wav",
        "text": "我再來要跟你提不合時宜的稅制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/153.wav",
        "text": "這個我講了三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/154.wav",
        "text": "我一直在講說娛樂稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/155.wav",
        "text": "印花稅汽車關稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/156.wav",
        "text": "汽機車貨物稅保健品關稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/157.wav",
        "text": "這些我認為很多不合時宜的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/158.wav",
        "text": "應該整個取消或者調降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/159.wav",
        "text": "者調降我最主要要跟你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/160.wav",
        "text": "你刪除富人稅不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/161.wav",
        "text": "啦我希望第一步應該將刪除掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/162.wav",
        "text": "107年你已經刪除的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/163.wav",
        "text": "最高等級級距的這一個級距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/164.wav",
        "text": "我認為要恢復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/165.wav",
        "text": "光恢復一年就可以增加100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/166.wav",
        "text": "更何況這個級距還不算最高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/167.wav",
        "text": "你如果對我們臺灣上萬位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/168.wav",
        "text": "我以他們一位代表郭台銘就講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/169.wav",
        "text": "他說我們國家有很多需要建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/170.wav",
        "text": "很多需要救助的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/171.wav",
        "text": "他說趕快來跟我們徵富人稅吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/172.wav",
        "text": "他也講了六七年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/173.wav",
        "text": "我認為除了舊級距恢復以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/174.wav",
        "text": "往上再增加幾個級距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/175.wav",
        "text": "這些超級富豪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/176.wav",
        "text": "他們願意拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/177.wav",
        "text": "啊拿出來什麼用意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/178.wav",
        "text": "因為我們一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/179.wav",
        "text": "勞保逐年財務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/180.wav",
        "text": "惡化的情況都已經出現了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/181.wav",
        "text": "還可能隨時會破產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/182.wav",
        "text": "另外我們需要稅金的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/183.wav",
        "text": "多得很啊例如我們對身障者的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/184.wav",
        "text": "我們對青年貸款的協助太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/185.wav",
        "text": "所以我再一次呼籲部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/186.wav",
        "text": "你不能輕輕鬆鬆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/187.wav",
        "text": "隨便寫個兩張紙就答復我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/188.wav",
        "text": "這個不重要錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/189.wav",
        "text": "富人稅光你刪掉的那個級距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/190.wav",
        "text": "一年就100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/191.wav",
        "text": "我希望這個級距立刻恢復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/192.wav",
        "text": "同時往上再加幾個級距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/193.wav",
        "text": "\n另外我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/194.wav",
        "text": "啊我三個月前跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/195.wav",
        "text": "現在它又來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/196.wav",
        "text": "老毛病又復發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/197.wav",
        "text": "它假借國產車的名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/198.wav",
        "text": "現在在幫中共銷售汽車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/199.wav",
        "text": "它把中共的MG車子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/200.wav",
        "text": "以零組件進口化整為零"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/201.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣組裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/202.wav",
        "text": "裕隆這十年來從2015年到今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/203.wav",
        "text": "它對外銷售率是0耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/204.wav",
        "text": "外銷0"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/205.wav",
        "text": "結果呢它現在拚命在幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/206.wav",
        "text": "我們最大的敵人──中共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/207.wav",
        "text": "在幫他們銷售他們的車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/208.wav",
        "text": "先前MG油車賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/209.wav",
        "text": "還不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/210.wav",
        "text": "現在又進MG的電動車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/211.wav",
        "text": "天啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/212.wav",
        "text": "歐美電動車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/213.wav",
        "text": "那你試想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/214.wav",
        "text": "歐美日是我們自由聯盟的好朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/215.wav",
        "text": "我們棄歐美日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/216.wav",
        "text": "於不顧他們的電動車進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/217.wav",
        "text": "我們要徵高價的關稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/218.wav",
        "text": "因為我們說要保護裕隆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/219.wav",
        "text": "結果這個阿斗就利用這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/220.wav",
        "text": "它開了小門讓中國的車輛進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/221.wav",
        "text": "在它的保護之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/222.wav",
        "text": "低價去傾銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/223.wav",
        "text": "而且部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/224.wav",
        "text": "中國的電動車還有圖資的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/225.wav",
        "text": "耶上次我都講過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/226.wav",
        "text": "好啦現在它大剌剌進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/227.wav",
        "text": "\n所以我再一次跟部長說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/228.wav",
        "text": "我們不應該再保護這個阿斗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/229.wav",
        "text": "保護這個阿斗保護70年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/230.wav",
        "text": "還要保護它多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/231.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/232.wav",
        "text": "汽車關稅的部分至少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/233.wav",
        "text": "針對裕隆這個阿斗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/234.wav",
        "text": "這麼惡劣的行徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/235.wav",
        "text": "我們財政部應該立刻想出什麼樣的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/236.wav",
        "text": "把這個小門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/237.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/238.wav",
        "text": "委員關稅的部分除了稅之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/239.wav",
        "text": "其實還涉及到國內產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/240.wav",
        "text": "跟產業主管機關就很有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/241.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/242.wav",
        "text": "我們可以洽詢經濟部的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/243.wav",
        "text": "看要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/244.wav",
        "text": "你又說聽經濟部意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/245.wav",
        "text": "你上次說了要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/246.wav",
        "text": "聽經濟部意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/247.wav",
        "text": "我跑去問了經濟部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/248.wav",
        "text": "他也說這個有疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/249.wav",
        "text": "他說要來問財政部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/250.wav",
        "text": "主席不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/251.wav",
        "text": "我占最後30秒就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/252.wav",
        "text": "我乾脆就約你們兩位部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/253.wav",
        "text": "經濟部長和財政部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/254.wav",
        "text": "你們兩個好好去去喝咖啡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/255.wav",
        "text": "謝謝王世堅委員的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/256.wav",
        "text": "\n今日發言委員均已詢答完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/257.wav",
        "text": "\n現在進行所得稅法部分條文修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154303/258.wav",
        "text": "處理預計宣讀時間為7分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/0.wav",
        "text": "請部長及梅總長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好總長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/2.wav",
        "text": "就是檢視平時與戰時的轉換期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/3.wav",
        "text": "國軍因應作戰應處理的一些作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/4.wav",
        "text": "部長是掌管政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/5.wav",
        "text": "總長則是掌管作戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/6.wav",
        "text": "所以在這裡我想請問總長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/7.wav",
        "text": "如果在戰時發生官兵拒戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/8.wav",
        "text": "怯戰逃亡或抗命等等的犯罪行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/9.wav",
        "text": "國防部要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/10.wav",
        "text": "或是作戰總部這邊要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/11.wav",
        "text": "委員好謝謝您的關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/12.wav",
        "text": "切我個人其實是受部長的命令執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/13.wav",
        "text": "我們的官兵碰到這種狀況時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/14.wav",
        "text": "不可能發生這樣的事情一定是會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/15.wav",
        "text": "甚至是政戰幹部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/16.wav",
        "text": "其實我們能做到的就是演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/17.wav",
        "text": "這次的漢光演習有沒有將戰時軍事審判納入演習的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/18.wav",
        "text": "有細節的部分我請法律司司長向你報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/19.wav",
        "text": "請問你們演練些什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/20.wav",
        "text": "委員好我是法律司司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/21.wav",
        "text": "我們都會開設戰時的臨時法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/22.wav",
        "text": "演練現在編配在部隊的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/23.wav",
        "text": "到我們指定的地點開設臨時法庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/24.wav",
        "text": "針對一些相關的案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/25.wav",
        "text": "演練他們戰時必須要有的偵查及審判作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/26.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝司長的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/27.wav",
        "text": "但是我們知道從103年軍事審判法修法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/28.wav",
        "text": "軍事審判機關都已經虛級化了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/29.wav",
        "text": "大部分的軍法人員都已經編配到各個部隊擔任法務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/30.wav",
        "text": "所以現在軍法官的配置員額是足夠的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/31.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們有概算過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/32.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的整個作戰區及作戰分區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/33.wav",
        "text": "要開設多少個臨時審判庭及臨時偵查庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/34.wav",
        "text": "相關的數量所需要的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/35.wav",
        "text": "以及我們現在可以做這件事的相關人員大約是概等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/36.wav",
        "text": "未來或許會減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/37.wav",
        "text": "但是我們會用後備召集的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/38.wav",
        "text": "其實從101年到現在已經有12年都沒有招考過軍法官也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/39.wav",
        "text": "過軍法官的考試可以看得出來軍法官的人力是不足的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/40.wav",
        "text": "你們現在的編配比是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/41.wav",
        "text": "這個編制與現有員額的比例是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/42.wav",
        "text": "當然這個是有一定的落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/43.wav",
        "text": "這個落差有高達五成以上嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/44.wav",
        "text": "現在有不少的軍法人員都退伍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/45.wav",
        "text": "了在這樣的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/46.wav",
        "text": "如果真的發生戰事的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/47.wav",
        "text": "我們來得及成立軍事審判法庭嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/48.wav",
        "text": "我們的軍法官有能力做相關的偵查審判工作嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/49.wav",
        "text": "報告委員如果以人力來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/50.wav",
        "text": "我們過去這樣的編配看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/51.wav",
        "text": "目前大概是概等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/52.wav",
        "text": "至於能力的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/53.wav",
        "text": "我們就只有透過平常的一些訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/54.wav",
        "text": "除了我們每年有自己的自訓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/55.wav",
        "text": "讓他們從事一些相關的實務工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/56.wav",
        "text": "這就有點像是一個從來沒有受過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/57.wav",
        "text": "飛行訓練的飛行員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/58.wav",
        "text": "一旦發生戰事的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/59.wav",
        "text": "卻要他立刻去開戰機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/60.wav",
        "text": "到了真的發生狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/61.wav",
        "text": "我們剛才講的那些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/62.wav",
        "text": "拒戰怯戰逃亡或抗命等等犯罪行為的士兵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/63.wav",
        "text": "是否認為我們應該要補足軍法官的員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/64.wav",
        "text": "另外我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/65.wav",
        "text": "可是法務官的招考基本上並不符合軍事審判法的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/66.wav",
        "text": "因為軍事審判法必須要是軍法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/67.wav",
        "text": "我們應該是在戰時的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/68.wav",
        "text": "如果到時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/69.wav",
        "text": "有讓司法院的法官一起加入嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/70.wav",
        "text": "現在還是戰略概等大約概等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/71.wav",
        "text": "部長你才剛新上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/72.wav",
        "text": "其實本席是非常重視關於軍法人力的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/73.wav",
        "text": "希望國防部能夠再恢復軍法官的考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/74.wav",
        "text": "養兵千日用在一時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/75.wav",
        "text": "我們不能等到真的發生狀況時找不到軍法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/76.wav",
        "text": "或是就算有軍法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/77.wav",
        "text": "到時候整個軍紀會是混亂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/78.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個問題非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/79.wav",
        "text": "並沒有把已經出現的問題納入通盤的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/80.wav",
        "text": "如果真的要讓司法院的法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/81.wav",
        "text": "未來一起加入戰時審判的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/82.wav",
        "text": "其實在整個演習規劃中就應該要有相關的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/83.wav",
        "text": "向委員報告兩點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/84.wav",
        "text": "第一點即使我們現在招考軍法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/85.wav",
        "text": "所以他的經驗沒有辦法累積"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/86.wav",
        "text": "第二點我們要與司法院協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/87.wav",
        "text": "如何讓我們這些既有的軍法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/88.wav",
        "text": "另外再與司法院協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/89.wav",
        "text": "因為你是法律背景出身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/90.wav",
        "text": "所以你很了解整個法律人員的養成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/91.wav",
        "text": "司法人員的養成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/92.wav",
        "text": "但是很重要的前提還是要先恢復軍法官的考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/93.wav",
        "text": "必須要有人進來你們才有辦法訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/94.wav",
        "text": "啊以上是本席希望在很快的時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/95.wav",
        "text": "內可以看到國防部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154304/96.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請賴士葆委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/0.wav",
        "text": "感謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/1.wav",
        "text": "部長休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/2.wav",
        "text": "請署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/3.wav",
        "text": "署長我們今天都是在討論消防法的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/4.wav",
        "text": "內容大概都是希望讓我們消防人員可以得到比較好的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/5.wav",
        "text": "行政院提出的修法一定都會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/6.wav",
        "text": "個版本在過去也討論很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/7.wav",
        "text": "了針對消防法設立消防人員職業安全專章"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/8.wav",
        "text": "增進他們的訓練及健康保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/9.wav",
        "text": "消防人員對政府的訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/10.wav",
        "text": "之一消防法增加職安專章"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/11.wav",
        "text": "之職業安全中納入對消防員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/12.wav",
        "text": "更多的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/13.wav",
        "text": "請署長說明這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/14.wav",
        "text": "感謝委員給我時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/15.wav",
        "text": "絕對跟勞工的工作對象不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/16.wav",
        "text": "面對不同對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/17.wav",
        "text": "難度非常非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/18.wav",
        "text": "比勞工的安全還要高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/19.wav",
        "text": "也比其他公務人員的要求還要高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/20.wav",
        "text": "這是首先跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/21.wav",
        "text": "美國的消防人員職業安全怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/22.wav",
        "text": "日本東京怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/23.wav",
        "text": "將他們的東西拿進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/24.wav",
        "text": "拿進來之後那是國外的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/25.wav",
        "text": "我們就跟職安署勞研所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/26.wav",
        "text": "就是臺灣怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/27.wav",
        "text": "國外怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/28.wav",
        "text": "最後我們怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/29.wav",
        "text": "所以今天才會把這個條文列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/30.wav",
        "text": "列出來之後要怎麼讓它裝備器材到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/31.wav",
        "text": "所以我們有23項計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/32.wav",
        "text": "270億經費經行政院核准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/33.wav",
        "text": "救災的基本裝備器材能夠到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/34.wav",
        "text": "這是我們要處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/35.wav",
        "text": "其實根據消防人員代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/36.wav",
        "text": "的意見他們是最希望增加人力補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/37.wav",
        "text": "還有各項設備都可以提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/38.wav",
        "text": "這樣才有辦法解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/39.wav",
        "text": "工作環境的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/40.wav",
        "text": "以人力來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/41.wav",
        "text": "是1比1,350"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/42.wav",
        "text": "日本跟韓國大概是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/43.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的消防人員真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/44.wav",
        "text": "長久以來人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/45.wav",
        "text": "造成大家過勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/46.wav",
        "text": "過勞身為消防人員的長官"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/47.wav",
        "text": "除了修正消防法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/48.wav",
        "text": "我們也要聽到消防人員的心聲儘快"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/49.wav",
        "text": "補足他們的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/50.wav",
        "text": "及改善設備不足的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/51.wav",
        "text": "我知道行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/52.wav",
        "text": "前兩個禮拜有通過一個方案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/53.wav",
        "text": "就是有中程計畫260億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/54.wav",
        "text": "其中有人力補充方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/55.wav",
        "text": "以及160億的設備更新"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/56.wav",
        "text": "在這兩三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/57.wav",
        "text": "不要設定為兩三年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/58.wav",
        "text": "希望可以更加速"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/59.wav",
        "text": "基層消防人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/60.wav",
        "text": "真的很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/61.wav",
        "text": "清泉委員有在說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/62.wav",
        "text": "是不是要將消防人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/63.wav",
        "text": "雲林縣義消副總隊長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/64.wav",
        "text": "我的LINE訊息就一直傳個不停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/65.wav",
        "text": "這就代表"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/66.wav",
        "text": "還要再增加他們的業務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/67.wav",
        "text": "他們的聲音可能就比較多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/68.wav",
        "text": "之1增加消防人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/69.wav",
        "text": "的退避權及資訊權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/70.wav",
        "text": "修法通過以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/71.wav",
        "text": "進而導致消防人員殉職"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/72.wav",
        "text": "經過檢討之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/73.wav",
        "text": "現在內政部也要送新的法律修正案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/74.wav",
        "text": "這個條文的增加是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/75.wav",
        "text": "儲提供資訊給救災人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/76.wav",
        "text": "可以即時瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/77.wav",
        "text": "對於修正這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/78.wav",
        "text": "我是非常認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/79.wav",
        "text": "化學雲這個平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/80.wav",
        "text": "化學物質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/81.wav",
        "text": "消防署可以做整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/82.wav",
        "text": "嗎這樣有辦法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/83.wav",
        "text": "其實勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/84.wav",
        "text": "經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/85.wav",
        "text": "環保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/86.wav",
        "text": "三個單位的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/87.wav",
        "text": "還有消防署有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/88.wav",
        "text": "場所位置構造設備的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/89.wav",
        "text": "都放在化學雲上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/90.wav",
        "text": "在第一線發生火警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/91.wav",
        "text": "派遣時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/92.wav",
        "text": "就會產生基本的H對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/93.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的消防人員了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/94.wav",
        "text": "這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/95.wav",
        "text": "裡面的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/96.wav",
        "text": "以及裡面的物質是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/97.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/98.wav",
        "text": "讓消防人員在救災的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/99.wav",
        "text": "第一時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/100.wav",
        "text": "就有辦法掌握到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/101.wav",
        "text": "最適當的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/102.wav",
        "text": "再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/103.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/104.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的中程計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/105.wav",
        "text": "我想要瞭解一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/106.wav",
        "text": "使用的經費是不是也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/107.wav",
        "text": "這個我們再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/108.wav",
        "text": "再麻煩了這就是重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/109.wav",
        "text": "再拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/110.wav",
        "text": "感謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154305/111.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/0.wav",
        "text": "林委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/1.wav",
        "text": "同工而不同酬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/2.wav",
        "text": "第一個同工不同酬繁重加成比例是有落差的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/3.wav",
        "text": "第二個我們來看警民比例"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/4.wav",
        "text": "第三繁重加給應該要一視同仁"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/5.wav",
        "text": "最後還有具體的要求"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/6.wav",
        "text": "\n在同工不同酬繁重加成比例有落差"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/7.wav",
        "text": "的部分其實這也要感謝行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/8.wav",
        "text": "全天24小時維護社會治安守護人民安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/9.wav",
        "text": "甚至要面臨各種突發狀況危險性極高"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/10.wav",
        "text": "而且更在非洲豬瘟配合防疫政策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/11.wav",
        "text": "反毒打詐等重大任務來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/12.wav",
        "text": "真的是不分晝夜不分平假日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/13.wav",
        "text": "所以在去年7月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/14.wav",
        "text": "行政院調高警勤加給到15%"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/15.wav",
        "text": "這15%還是比原來警政署提報到行政院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/16.wav",
        "text": "但我們看左邊這個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/17.wav",
        "text": "我們在15%之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/18.wav",
        "text": "支領警勤加給這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/19.wav",
        "text": "在六都當中臺北市跟新北市"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/20.wav",
        "text": "之外警勤加給再加1倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/21.wav",
        "text": "卻只能在提升5%之上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/22.wav",
        "text": "除了臺北新北之外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/23.wav",
        "text": "這個警民比例是從人口數跟員警數的比值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/24.wav",
        "text": "也就是說警民比例值愈高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/25.wav",
        "text": "每位警察人員的工作負荷量愈大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/26.wav",
        "text": "111年112年113年近四年來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/27.wav",
        "text": "111年我高雄的警民比例397比它的332還多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/28.wav",
        "text": "113年我高雄市的407都還比臺北市的342多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/29.wav",
        "text": "為什麼臺北市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/30.wav",
        "text": "可以領完整的加給15%之後再加1倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/31.wav",
        "text": "我只能領7成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/32.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/33.wav",
        "text": "包括桃園臺中臺南也是這個狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/34.wav",
        "text": "去年（112年）5月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/35.wav",
        "text": "我們陳其邁市長也呼籲比照雙北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/36.wav",
        "text": "呼籲警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/37.wav",
        "text": "呼籲內政部應該要比照雙北公平對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/38.wav",
        "text": "現在一年過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/39.wav",
        "text": "部長您剛上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/40.wav",
        "text": "我希望你能夠重視這樣子的所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/41.wav",
        "text": "是應該要同工同酬的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/42.wav",
        "text": "所以在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/43.wav",
        "text": "本席有一個具體的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/44.wav",
        "text": "就是在一個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/45.wav",
        "text": "內政部是否能夠基於公平正義的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/46.wav",
        "text": "全國警務人員應該一視同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/47.wav",
        "text": "內政部即刻檢討現有的警勤繁重加給的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/48.wav",
        "text": "更正加給的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/49.wav",
        "text": "本席認為這個回溯機制應該比照到去年7月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/50.wav",
        "text": "因為它剛好是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/51.wav",
        "text": "行政院重視警員能夠加成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/52.wav",
        "text": "那麼我們應該從這個時候算起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/53.wav",
        "text": "有一個回溯機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/54.wav",
        "text": "\n好警政單位是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/55.wav",
        "text": "也請部長能夠將內政部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/56.wav",
        "text": "所屬的消防移民等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/57.wav",
        "text": "而且也主動修正並制定回溯機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/58.wav",
        "text": "部長你怎麼看這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/59.wav",
        "text": "是非常謝謝林委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/60.wav",
        "text": "包括對於警政消防跟移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/61.wav",
        "text": "這些警官或是警員的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/62.wav",
        "text": "我們也聽到他們的心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/63.wav",
        "text": "您原先有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/64.wav",
        "text": "像新北或是臺北市的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/65.wav",
        "text": "就我所瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/66.wav",
        "text": "地方政府因為他們大力支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/67.wav",
        "text": "所以他們也會編定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/68.wav",
        "text": "所謂加給加成的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/69.wav",
        "text": "我們雖然有訂定上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/70.wav",
        "text": "但是地方政府的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/71.wav",
        "text": "它是在上限以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/72.wav",
        "text": "自己再做調整的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/73.wav",
        "text": "而不是全部都是由警政署來負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/74.wav",
        "text": "臺北市跟新北市能夠加到1倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/75.wav",
        "text": "這全部都是因為你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/76.wav",
        "text": "支領辦法規定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/77.wav",
        "text": "上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/78.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/79.wav",
        "text": "因為我們規定的是上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/80.wav",
        "text": "而不是規定這叫做下限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/81.wav",
        "text": "針對桃園臺中臺南高雄的上限是7成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/82.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/83.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有這樣子的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/84.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有規範說上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/85.wav",
        "text": "我們可以來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/86.wav",
        "text": "我知道林委員的意思就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/87.wav",
        "text": "希望說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/88.wav",
        "text": "我瞭解的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/89.wav",
        "text": "警政署本身就把這個上限定死了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/90.wav",
        "text": "你們的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/91.wav",
        "text": "所以如果我們要調高上限到15%的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/92.wav",
        "text": "我們會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/93.wav",
        "text": "不是15%之後再加成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/94.wav",
        "text": "我們全國現在大家提報的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/95.wav",
        "text": "警勤加給是15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/96.wav",
        "text": "六都中的臺北新北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/97.wav",
        "text": "市是加15%之後再加1倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/98.wav",
        "text": "桃園臺中臺南高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/99.wav",
        "text": "只有15%的7成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/100.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/101.wav",
        "text": "這是內政部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/102.wav",
        "text": "林委員你說的沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/103.wav",
        "text": "我們來檢討一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/104.wav",
        "text": "但是我要跟你提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/105.wav",
        "text": "地方政府的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/106.wav",
        "text": "或是地方政府對於上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/107.wav",
        "text": "或是對於這個標準要加給的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/108.wav",
        "text": "他們不能夠說希望中央全部補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/109.wav",
        "text": "至少從我高雄做起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/110.wav",
        "text": "高雄市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/111.wav",
        "text": "我們會跟它來協調看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/112.wav",
        "text": "因為這裡面有牽涉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/113.wav",
        "text": "是由高雄市政府編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/114.wav",
        "text": "還是由中央來編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/115.wav",
        "text": "當然是由中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/116.wav",
        "text": "當然是由中央來編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/117.wav",
        "text": "跟林委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/118.wav",
        "text": "臺北市新北市都是由中央來編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/119.wav",
        "text": "因為不會是只有六都的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/120.wav",
        "text": "如果我們現在這樣子做的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/121.wav",
        "text": "呢其他非六都的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/122.wav",
        "text": "警員他們也提到說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/123.wav",
        "text": "他們也是同工不同酬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/124.wav",
        "text": "譬如說他們面積很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/125.wav",
        "text": "人員很多山很高等等這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/126.wav",
        "text": "所以我要跟你提到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/127.wav",
        "text": "所謂的同工不同酬確實現在在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/128.wav",
        "text": "都會地區裡面他們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/129.wav",
        "text": "薪酬比較高的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/130.wav",
        "text": "那非都會地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/131.wav",
        "text": "會有薪酬比較低的這個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/132.wav",
        "text": "現在我們新上任的張署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/133.wav",
        "text": "需要解決的具體部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/134.wav",
        "text": "那麼是不是給我們一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/135.wav",
        "text": "我們來做一下檢討之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/136.wav",
        "text": "再跟委員來做報告好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/137.wav",
        "text": "好好謝謝那我這邊有要求是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/138.wav",
        "text": "一個月內能夠完成檢討方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/139.wav",
        "text": "部長可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/140.wav",
        "text": "今天署長沒有到這邊來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/141.wav",
        "text": "部長您可以指示下去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/142.wav",
        "text": "一個月內完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/143.wav",
        "text": "但是是不是給他一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/144.wav",
        "text": "因為我沒有辦法幫他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/145.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊具體要求警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/146.wav",
        "text": "一個月內完成檢討所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/147.wav",
        "text": "勤務同工不同酬的現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/148.wav",
        "text": "而且我這邊要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/149.wav",
        "text": "有一個回溯機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/150.wav",
        "text": "部長可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/151.wav",
        "text": "部長可以嗎如果對於您下面的署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/152.wav",
        "text": "整理清楚以後再看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/153.wav",
        "text": "那麼您覺得要多久是黃金10年嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/154.wav",
        "text": "在下個會期之前好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/155.wav",
        "text": "那就是已經要4個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/156.wav",
        "text": "我們在10月初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/157.wav",
        "text": "在9月底10月初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/158.wav",
        "text": "按常態大概9月底10月初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/159.wav",
        "text": "就會開議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/160.wav",
        "text": "當然要看黨團協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154306/161.wav",
        "text": "在9月底前完成所有的評估好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/0.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席部長你休息一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/1.wav",
        "text": "我們請署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/2.wav",
        "text": "質詢行政院長的施政報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/3.wav",
        "text": "您大概沒看過這一份回復吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/4.wav",
        "text": "好也給部長一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/5.wav",
        "text": "\n首先我要延續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/6.wav",
        "text": "人多就安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/7.wav",
        "text": "這個我相信很多委員也都有反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/8.wav",
        "text": "現在消防最大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/9.wav",
        "text": "就是人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/10.wav",
        "text": "提出七大消防策略裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/11.wav",
        "text": "也有增人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/12.wav",
        "text": "本席之前在委員會質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/13.wav",
        "text": "院會也質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/14.wav",
        "text": "針對人力不足的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/15.wav",
        "text": "你們說招考不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/16.wav",
        "text": "本席覺得你們宣傳不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/17.wav",
        "text": "所以老是招考不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/18.wav",
        "text": "結果你們就回復說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/19.wav",
        "text": "有啊有在廣為宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/20.wav",
        "text": "啊你們怎麼宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/21.wav",
        "text": "署長你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/22.wav",
        "text": "你們是怎麼宣傳的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/23.wav",
        "text": "你們就是透過招募海報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/24.wav",
        "text": "招募海報貼在哪裡呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/25.wav",
        "text": "就貼在你們全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/26.wav",
        "text": "只有一個地方的訓練中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/27.wav",
        "text": "你要跟全國招考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/28.wav",
        "text": "然後你就只貼一個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/29.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/30.wav",
        "text": "你有廣為宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/31.wav",
        "text": "再來你說本署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/32.wav",
        "text": "亦透過官網臉書等社群媒體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/33.wav",
        "text": "你的官網有幾個人去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/34.wav",
        "text": "你的臉書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/35.wav",
        "text": "一個小區域的議員還要少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/36.wav",
        "text": "你這個叫做宣傳嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/37.wav",
        "text": "部長你要瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/38.wav",
        "text": "再來再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/39.wav",
        "text": "本署持續積極推動充實消防人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/40.wav",
        "text": "還透過什麼跑馬燈電子看板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/41.wav",
        "text": "標語海報網站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/42.wav",
        "text": "通通都沒有多少人知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/43.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/44.wav",
        "text": "你們的招生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/45.wav",
        "text": "最近剛考完對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/46.wav",
        "text": "6月16號考完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/47.wav",
        "text": "3月18號報名截止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/48.wav",
        "text": "目標招收1,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/49.wav",
        "text": "我們看一下投影片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/50.wav",
        "text": "民進黨執政8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/51.wav",
        "text": "消防的需求人數到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/52.wav",
        "text": "最後錄取人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/53.wav",
        "text": "最高的百分比是39%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/54.wav",
        "text": "很多都在20%以下或百分之二十幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/55.wav",
        "text": "所以從這邊我們就可以知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/56.wav",
        "text": "你要招收到足夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/57.wav",
        "text": "我們現在人力需求全國都在哀哀叫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/58.wav",
        "text": "署長你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/59.wav",
        "text": "知道全國人力都不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/60.wav",
        "text": "這一點你知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/61.wav",
        "text": "目前缺額是1,400位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/62.wav",
        "text": "缺額是1,400位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/63.wav",
        "text": "你想招收1,000位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/64.wav",
        "text": "依據過去8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/65.wav",
        "text": "可是你的目標是1,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/66.wav",
        "text": "是不是容許我做個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/67.wav",
        "text": "等一下再說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/68.wav",
        "text": "最後再說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/69.wav",
        "text": "所以這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/70.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得宣傳不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/71.wav",
        "text": "等於公務人員尸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/72.wav",
        "text": "尸位素餐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/73.wav",
        "text": "你問所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/74.wav",
        "text": "我要宣傳我要拿票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/75.wav",
        "text": "假設我要拿10萬票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/76.wav",
        "text": "總統要拿600萬票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/77.wav",
        "text": "或只對50萬人宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/78.wav",
        "text": "嗎你今天想要招收這麼多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/79.wav",
        "text": "卻隨便宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/80.wav",
        "text": "這就是最大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/81.wav",
        "text": "我們不希望再看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/82.wav",
        "text": "因為人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/83.wav",
        "text": "所以造成一直有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/84.wav",
        "text": "這個要誰負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/85.wav",
        "text": "人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/86.wav",
        "text": "每一屆都不足連續8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/87.wav",
        "text": "人力不足造成消防人員殉職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/88.wav",
        "text": "行政單位沒有責任嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/89.wav",
        "text": "他們就只能這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/90.wav",
        "text": "到了火場人力就是不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/91.wav",
        "text": "所以這一塊本席要特別特別講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/92.wav",
        "text": "\n再來因為時間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/93.wav",
        "text": "你們還有添裝備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/94.wav",
        "text": "請問這次添裝備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/95.wav",
        "text": "有沒有電子式火警災害現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/96.wav",
        "text": "人員管制系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/97.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/98.wav",
        "text": "在後面的化學雲計畫裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/99.wav",
        "text": "有這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/100.wav",
        "text": "一定要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/101.wav",
        "text": "這個是管制人員進出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/102.wav",
        "text": "進去多少時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/103.wav",
        "text": "是否要出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/104.wav",
        "text": "裡面還有多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/105.wav",
        "text": "拜託你們花了這麼多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/106.wav",
        "text": "──260億七大策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/107.wav",
        "text": "裝備裡面你們說要花58億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/108.wav",
        "text": "請你要支援真正需求的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/109.wav",
        "text": "請問一下你們的添裝備裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/110.wav",
        "text": "有含給義消的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/111.wav",
        "text": "也包括義消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/112.wav",
        "text": "對因為義消也覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/113.wav",
        "text": "好現在您可以先簡單回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/114.wav",
        "text": "是感謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/115.wav",
        "text": "以今年現在正在訓練的來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/116.wav",
        "text": "剛才委員講到1,800位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/117.wav",
        "text": "其實去年我們是要錄取1,000位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/118.wav",
        "text": "1,800位在考試院規定裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/119.wav",
        "text": "可以錄取一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/120.wav",
        "text": "只要平均分數達到50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/121.wav",
        "text": "去年的分數是沒有達到50分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/122.wav",
        "text": "你也知道我講的重點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/123.wav",
        "text": "你人多自然人才多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/124.wav",
        "text": "然後錄取率自然高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/125.wav",
        "text": "你覺得不是沒有必要嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/126.wav",
        "text": "等一下投影片再拿出來一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/127.wav",
        "text": "你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/128.wav",
        "text": "是590位招收了2,946位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/129.wav",
        "text": "是不是歷屆最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/130.wav",
        "text": "不是有一個3,200位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/131.wav",
        "text": "3,000位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/132.wav",
        "text": "當年招收了715"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/133.wav",
        "text": "位所以人越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/134.wav",
        "text": "所以你們不要老是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/135.wav",
        "text": "委員交代的部分我們一定會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/136.wav",
        "text": "擴大來看怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/137.wav",
        "text": "讓社會大眾知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/138.wav",
        "text": "消防人員需要人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/139.wav",
        "text": "這個宣傳你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/140.wav",
        "text": "你們要用對地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/141.wav",
        "text": "因為你們的宣傳費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/142.wav",
        "text": "據本席瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/143.wav",
        "text": "都用在其他方面宣導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/144.wav",
        "text": "你可以撥一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/145.wav",
        "text": "真的消防弟兄的心聲就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/146.wav",
        "text": "人多就安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/147.wav",
        "text": "人多就安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/148.wav",
        "text": "本席不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/149.wav",
        "text": "我們在內政委員會碰面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/150.wav",
        "text": "的時候消防人力一直不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/151.wav",
        "text": "署長拜託你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/152.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/153.wav",
        "text": "入訓這一批"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/154.wav",
        "text": "我們期待人力會大幅增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/155.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/156.wav",
        "text": "我們希望看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/157.wav",
        "text": "明年8月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/158.wav",
        "text": "本來是150位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/159.wav",
        "text": "明年已經增加到400位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/160.wav",
        "text": "有增加到400"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/161.wav",
        "text": "已經增加到400位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/162.wav",
        "text": "進入我們實務界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/163.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/164.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/165.wav",
        "text": "好辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/166.wav",
        "text": "我們真的希望看到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/167.wav",
        "text": "真正充足的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/168.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154307/169.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝召委召委是我們新北義交大隊隊長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/1.wav",
        "text": "一直非常地關心消防員的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/2.wav",
        "text": "今天有機會我們可以來詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/3.wav",
        "text": "內政部的版本因為國民黨不簽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/4.wav",
        "text": "院版就沒有辦法進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/5.wav",
        "text": "我的版本也連帶受害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/6.wav",
        "text": "不是受這個害而是受國民黨黨團之害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/7.wav",
        "text": "所以真的非常地遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/8.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/9.wav",
        "text": "院版能夠早日進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/10.wav",
        "text": "我們能夠早日完成修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/11.wav",
        "text": "\n今天本來是想要問內政部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/12.wav",
        "text": "但是我想今天應該讓他休息一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/13.wav",
        "text": "請署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/14.wav",
        "text": "我要肯定內政部部長我看到部長上臺後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/15.wav",
        "text": "待會我的幾點要求也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/16.wav",
        "text": "內政部部長既然還有時間的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/17.wav",
        "text": "可以多考慮好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/18.wav",
        "text": "我主要是要反映基層消防員的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/19.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠聆聽他們的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/20.wav",
        "text": "\n第一個部分這是我的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/21.wav",
        "text": "我現在是跟院版做對照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/22.wav",
        "text": "最後都是以院版為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/23.wav",
        "text": "主院版已經納入非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/24.wav",
        "text": "我現在是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/25.wav",
        "text": "跟我的版本不同的部分繼續爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/26.wav",
        "text": "諮詢會議中已經有公務人員協會代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/27.wav",
        "text": "我的版本除了公務人員協會代表之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/28.wav",
        "text": "還增加基層消防團體的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/29.wav",
        "text": "你們說公務人員協會已經可以代替了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/30.wav",
        "text": "但是如果除了公務人員協會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/31.wav",
        "text": "代表也可能會有基層消防團體代表的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/32.wav",
        "text": "我還是希望能夠考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/33.wav",
        "text": "這是第一題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/34.wav",
        "text": "待會你再一起回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/35.wav",
        "text": "因為時間很短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/36.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個關於申訴機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/37.wav",
        "text": "發現機關違失可以主動申訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/38.wav",
        "text": "訴這是參考公務人員保障法裡面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/39.wav",
        "text": "吹哨者保護條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/40.wav",
        "text": "可以依照相關的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/41.wav",
        "text": "也許之後訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/42.wav",
        "text": "是不是待會也可以公開說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/43.wav",
        "text": "這個部分為什麼不需要放在這個法條中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/44.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個是裁罰上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/45.wav",
        "text": "可是如果以明揚為例的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/46.wav",
        "text": "它年營業額是破30億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/47.wav",
        "text": "如果遇到像明揚這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/48.wav",
        "text": "我的版本是以年營業額之一定比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/49.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/50.wav",
        "text": "我有跟你們溝通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/51.wav",
        "text": "你們覺得執行上有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/52.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/53.wav",
        "text": "因為如果以明揚為例的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/54.wav",
        "text": "可是對他們來講可能還是罰不痛\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/55.wav",
        "text": "我發現你們第25條之8"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/56.wav",
        "text": "就是各級消防機關應考量等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/57.wav",
        "text": "之特殊需要提供適當之環境安全衛生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/58.wav",
        "text": "前面其他第25條之2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/59.wav",
        "text": "等等都有罰款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/60.wav",
        "text": "這個居然沒有罰款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/61.wav",
        "text": "我的版本是希望這個一併納入罰則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/62.wav",
        "text": "就這部分我看你們的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/63.wav",
        "text": "及消防署的說明是你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/64.wav",
        "text": "覺得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/65.wav",
        "text": "欣然接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/66.wav",
        "text": "是不是也公開承諾一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/67.wav",
        "text": "\n以上4點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/68.wav",
        "text": "是不是請署長回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/69.wav",
        "text": "好感謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/70.wav",
        "text": "事實上考試院在訂定協會法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/71.wav",
        "text": "協會的代表就是基層同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/72.wav",
        "text": "對我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/73.wav",
        "text": "所以委員建議諮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/74.wav",
        "text": "如果委員認為基層同仁需要再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/75.wav",
        "text": "我們再審慎來考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/76.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/77.wav",
        "text": "吹哨者的條文也有同樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/78.wav",
        "text": "人員保障法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/79.wav",
        "text": "如果委員在審查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/80.wav",
        "text": "認為這個還是不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/81.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼樣把這個精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/82.wav",
        "text": "或者是考試院代表也在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/83.wav",
        "text": "是不是跟考試院協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/84.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼樣把這樣的吹哨者精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/85.wav",
        "text": "納入因為不光是消防人員會有吹哨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/86.wav",
        "text": "\n對於上限的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/87.wav",
        "text": "委員現在如果是合法的工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/88.wav",
        "text": "對你們也有講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/89.wav",
        "text": "如果有一些非法的工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/90.wav",
        "text": "或者是年度額到底是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/91.wav",
        "text": "這個可能不好掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/92.wav",
        "text": "瞭解是不是可以either or"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/93.wav",
        "text": "如果怎麼樣就怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/94.wav",
        "text": "當然我想這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/95.wav",
        "text": "你們的可執行性還是很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/96.wav",
        "text": "你們可以思考一下好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/97.wav",
        "text": "對執行的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/98.wav",
        "text": "而且所有的法律面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/99.wav",
        "text": "好像也沒有類似的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/100.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我們比較保留就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/101.wav",
        "text": "這樣要不要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/102.wav",
        "text": "至於納入第25條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/103.wav",
        "text": "之8我們可以再跟委員商討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/104.wav",
        "text": "列專章就是把消防人員的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/105.wav",
        "text": "服務做得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/106.wav",
        "text": "對他們的權益這些能夠做得更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/107.wav",
        "text": "我想這個是我們共同努力的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/108.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/109.wav",
        "text": "最後一個確定那個罰則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/110.wav",
        "text": "你們會增加嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/111.wav",
        "text": "我們可以把委員建議的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/112.wav",
        "text": "是我們再來考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/113.wav",
        "text": "或者最後不能修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/114.wav",
        "text": "但你們確定會在子法做的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/115.wav",
        "text": "可能我們可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/116.wav",
        "text": "附帶決議的方式處理好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/117.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/118.wav",
        "text": "用子法的方式再勞請委員給我們指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/119.wav",
        "text": "感謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/120.wav",
        "text": "謝謝我再次肯定劉世芳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/121.wav",
        "text": "在很多議題上都劍及履及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/122.wav",
        "text": "希望在這個部分也能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/123.wav",
        "text": "把它修到很好好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154308/124.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長和署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/2.wav",
        "text": "好請部長和署長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/3.wav",
        "text": "張委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/4.wav",
        "text": "部長和署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/5.wav",
        "text": "部長可以一邊回答一邊休息沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/6.wav",
        "text": "及履及一邊答一邊休息一下沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/7.wav",
        "text": "我無法兩邊都做到一邊答一邊休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/8.wav",
        "text": "我還是答好了沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/9.wav",
        "text": "本來就應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/10.wav",
        "text": "今天我們一起做重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/11.wav",
        "text": "老實說保護消防員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/12.wav",
        "text": "也是保護我們自己的財產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/13.wav",
        "text": "跟生命安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/14.wav",
        "text": "你看我們4位消防人員進去救火"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/15.wav",
        "text": "就殉職了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/16.wav",
        "text": "去年發生這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/17.wav",
        "text": "其實針對化學物品危險物品它有登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/18.wav",
        "text": "可是第一個數量出問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/19.wav",
        "text": "沒有標示數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/20.wav",
        "text": "第二個位置也沒有標示對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/21.wav",
        "text": "然後工廠負責人自己也都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/22.wav",
        "text": "所以今天本席的質詢重點放在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/23.wav",
        "text": "資訊是否有串接到消防救災的資訊平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/24.wav",
        "text": "落實是最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/25.wav",
        "text": "規定是很多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/26.wav",
        "text": "像我在經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/27.wav",
        "text": "等一下我會講說我們在經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/28.wav",
        "text": "過了哪一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/29.wav",
        "text": "可是第一個除了經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/30.wav",
        "text": "過了加重罰則及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/31.wav",
        "text": "每個月有沒有申報之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/32.wav",
        "text": "還是剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/33.wav",
        "text": "時結果數量不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/34.wav",
        "text": "位置也不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/35.wav",
        "text": "去年就發生這個遺憾的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/36.wav",
        "text": "請署長回答今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/37.wav",
        "text": "為止這個數位平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/38.wav",
        "text": "有沒有串接到你這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/39.wav",
        "text": "包括環境部的化學雲對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/40.wav",
        "text": "是跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/41.wav",
        "text": "的狀況是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/42.wav",
        "text": "一定要數位化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/43.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/44.wav",
        "text": "是統合勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/45.wav",
        "text": "經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/46.wav",
        "text": "環保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/47.wav",
        "text": "還有消防的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/48.wav",
        "text": "這些資訊在雲端裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/49.wav",
        "text": "也介接到我們消防119派遣系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/50.wav",
        "text": "的工廠是化學工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/51.wav",
        "text": "它會跳出一個H-"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/52.wav",
        "text": "和裡面有什麼危險物品的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/53.wav",
        "text": "送到我們的派遣端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/54.wav",
        "text": "送到派遣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/55.wav",
        "text": "你說的我都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/56.wav",
        "text": "去年其實也有這個規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/57.wav",
        "text": "了它就是沒有把這個工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/58.wav",
        "text": "到底有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/59.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要對症下藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/60.wav",
        "text": "所以我代表台灣民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/61.wav",
        "text": "經濟委員會提案做兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/62.wav",
        "text": "一個就是加重罰則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/63.wav",
        "text": "提高一百零倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/64.wav",
        "text": "所以現在變500萬對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/65.wav",
        "text": "你現在的是1,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/66.wav",
        "text": "這是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/67.wav",
        "text": "的而經濟委員會在院會三讀的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/68.wav",
        "text": "那個是500"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/69.wav",
        "text": "廠輔導法那部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/70.wav",
        "text": "這個很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/71.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個罰則都要加重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/72.wav",
        "text": "第二個我還代表民眾黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/73.wav",
        "text": "提了一個很重要的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/74.wav",
        "text": "工廠如果有危險的物品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/75.wav",
        "text": "你要主動而且每個月要申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/76.wav",
        "text": "這個是經濟部長當場答應我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/77.wav",
        "text": "要落實到施行細則的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/78.wav",
        "text": "可能我再問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/79.wav",
        "text": "經濟部經濟部現在有落實做這個事嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/80.wav",
        "text": "5月8號就三讀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/81.wav",
        "text": "現在有沒有落實做這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/82.wav",
        "text": "目前針對申報的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/83.wav",
        "text": "大概有兩個規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/84.wav",
        "text": "第一個叫做定期申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/85.wav",
        "text": "那個是半年的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/86.wav",
        "text": "叫做動態申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/87.wav",
        "text": "在工廠裡面有危險品的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/88.wav",
        "text": "它有異動數量增減的時候它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/89.wav",
        "text": "它就要隨時來做申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/90.wav",
        "text": "所以動態一定馬上落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/91.wav",
        "text": "可是最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/92.wav",
        "text": "那天是你們部長答應我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/93.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/94.wav",
        "text": "我們的動態申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/95.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼會停留在半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/96.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/97.wav",
        "text": "半年是定期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/98.wav",
        "text": "定期是半年申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/99.wav",
        "text": "那你所謂的動態是多久一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/100.wav",
        "text": "動態的話是隨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/101.wav",
        "text": "的不是等半年才公布一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/102.wav",
        "text": "動態當然是隨時要申報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/103.wav",
        "text": "可是每一個月至少很清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/104.wav",
        "text": "你要定期一個月申報一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/105.wav",
        "text": "這是當初和你們部長說好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/106.wav",
        "text": "要改成一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/107.wav",
        "text": "要落實好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/108.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/109.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/110.wav",
        "text": "我要追這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/111.wav",
        "text": "就是要串接到你這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/112.wav",
        "text": "你的資訊才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/113.wav",
        "text": "好來我再問你一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/114.wav",
        "text": "最近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/115.wav",
        "text": "這個事情很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/116.wav",
        "text": "前天南韓發生鋰電池"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/117.wav",
        "text": "這個署長應該一定有注意到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/118.wav",
        "text": "23條人命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/119.wav",
        "text": "新北前陣子2月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/120.wav",
        "text": "中永和跟文山區了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/121.wav",
        "text": "老實說鋰電池很危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/122.wav",
        "text": "現在針對這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/123.wav",
        "text": "有兩個很大問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/124.wav",
        "text": "這可能部長要答了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/125.wav",
        "text": "目前鋰電池的安全是三不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/126.wav",
        "text": "你的國土署有在管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/127.wav",
        "text": "還有標準局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/128.wav",
        "text": "消防署和交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/129.wav",
        "text": "這邊現在沒有整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/130.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣才能來管這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/131.wav",
        "text": "還是要經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/132.wav",
        "text": "我想如果站在消防署的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/133.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會來整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/134.wav",
        "text": "因為鋰電池如果發生火災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/135.wav",
        "text": "或是爆炸的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/136.wav",
        "text": "最後還是要消防人員去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/137.wav",
        "text": "負責救火"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/138.wav",
        "text": "就是有關於鋰電池的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/139.wav",
        "text": "目前是經濟部在管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/140.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/141.wav",
        "text": "其實我們消防署很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/142.wav",
        "text": "就把美國防火協會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/143.wav",
        "text": "如何處理鋰電池火災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/144.wav",
        "text": "的相關資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/145.wav",
        "text": "已經把它download下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/146.wav",
        "text": "但是未來怎麼樣落實的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/147.wav",
        "text": "我們恐怕要再跟相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/148.wav",
        "text": "再做一個比較細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/149.wav",
        "text": "上的探討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/150.wav",
        "text": "誰出面去召集這個會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/151.wav",
        "text": "現在是三不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/152.wav",
        "text": "找這些單位來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/153.wav",
        "text": "其實民眾的配合很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/154.wav",
        "text": "民眾怎麼達到將合格的產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/155.wav",
        "text": "倉庫的部分怎麼分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/156.wav",
        "text": "區域的概念能夠處理得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/157.wav",
        "text": "當然在消防的部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/158.wav",
        "text": "是救災目前很確定就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/159.wav",
        "text": "鋰電池這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/160.wav",
        "text": "需要大量的水才能滅火"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/161.wav",
        "text": "所以目前我們兩個區塊正在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/162.wav",
        "text": "就是倉儲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/163.wav",
        "text": "我們最近會把倉儲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/164.wav",
        "text": "自動灑水做配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/165.wav",
        "text": "而工廠的自動灑水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/166.wav",
        "text": "我們在下半年會把這個條文列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/167.wav",
        "text": "能夠達到一個控制程度的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/168.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/169.wav",
        "text": "你們把它具體化好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/170.wav",
        "text": "我們來做三件事情好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/171.wav",
        "text": "我們先針對我們的打火兄弟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/172.wav",
        "text": "救災的標準作業程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/173.wav",
        "text": "）你目前應該有對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/174.wav",
        "text": "已經有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/175.wav",
        "text": "你再怎麼把它精進一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/176.wav",
        "text": "好不好大概一個禮拜內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/177.wav",
        "text": "針對最近發生又一些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/178.wav",
        "text": "一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/179.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/180.wav",
        "text": "針對標準作業程序把它精進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/181.wav",
        "text": "送一份到本席辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/182.wav",
        "text": "這個要好好檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/183.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/184.wav",
        "text": "要好好檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/185.wav",
        "text": "第二個現在有一個危險的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/186.wav",
        "text": "就是很多公寓大廈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/187.wav",
        "text": "新的大廈很多充電都在樓下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/188.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/189.wav",
        "text": "也發生過問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/190.wav",
        "text": "沒有發生過充電的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/191.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/192.wav",
        "text": "現在還好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/193.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/194.wav",
        "text": "現在他們很多都在下面充電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/195.wav",
        "text": "這個到底要怎麼去預防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/196.wav",
        "text": "跟我們消防人員的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/197.wav",
        "text": "這個也注意一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/198.wav",
        "text": "現在相關部會就是剛剛講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/199.wav",
        "text": "各個部會相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/200.wav",
        "text": "不要變成三不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/201.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/202.wav",
        "text": "整個辦法出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/203.wav",
        "text": "這也是多久給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/204.wav",
        "text": "一個月可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/205.wav",
        "text": "跨部會可能給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/206.wav",
        "text": "再多一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/207.wav",
        "text": "可能三個月的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/208.wav",
        "text": "三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/209.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/210.wav",
        "text": "第一個一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/211.wav",
        "text": "後面這個三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/212.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/213.wav",
        "text": "一方面保護我們所有民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/214.wav",
        "text": "一方面消防員的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/215.wav",
        "text": "要多幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/216.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/217.wav",
        "text": "一起努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/218.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/219.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154309/220.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我們請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/2.wav",
        "text": "吳委員你好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/3.wav",
        "text": "部長早安部長等一下要跟你請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/4.wav",
        "text": "蘆洲地區的一些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/5.wav",
        "text": "但因為我剛剛聽前一位委員有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/6.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有去看一下那個消防指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/7.wav",
        "text": "就是我們現在消防指引所對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/8.wav",
        "text": "鋰電池儲存廠的電壓數跟現在的電壓數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/9.wav",
        "text": "說要距離多少公尺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/10.wav",
        "text": "譬如我們設了一個儲能場在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/11.wav",
        "text": "然後多少公尺以內不能有什麼樣的公共設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/12.wav",
        "text": "剛好我今天是臨時想到但是我資料沒帶來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/13.wav",
        "text": "多少公尺內有什麼樣的設施譬如加油站或什麼不行有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/14.wav",
        "text": "這個消防指引它所對的儲能場的電壓數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/15.wav",
        "text": "跟現在有沒有一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/16.wav",
        "text": "是可能委員您所提到的是要蓋一個新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/17.wav",
        "text": "還是現有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/18.wav",
        "text": "因為如果要蓋一個新的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/19.wav",
        "text": "它必須要按照剛剛我們提到不是只有消防法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/20.wav",
        "text": "消防法是輔助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/21.wav",
        "text": "還有工廠管理輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/22.wav",
        "text": "或者相關地區是不是工業區等等這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/23.wav",
        "text": "需要經過環境影響評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/24.wav",
        "text": "如果是現有的部分的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/25.wav",
        "text": "就要看儲存的量有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/26.wav",
        "text": "少這個就必須經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/27.wav",
        "text": "包括縣市地方政府或是中央政府相關機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/28.wav",
        "text": "一起審核通過才可以設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/29.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/30.wav",
        "text": "因為我今天主要不是問你這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/31.wav",
        "text": "所以我資料沒帶過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/32.wav",
        "text": "只是剛好上個禮拜我在閱讀一些資料的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/33.wav",
        "text": "有發現一個小狀況那就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/34.wav",
        "text": "它所對應的當年那個設施是多少瓩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/35.wav",
        "text": "因為技術的進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/36.wav",
        "text": "所針對的儲能場的容量跟電壓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/37.wav",
        "text": "我印象中那時候看資料好像有落差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/38.wav",
        "text": "那我擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/39.wav",
        "text": "如果我們依照舊有的指引來面對新的設施的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/40.wav",
        "text": "會不會有不適用的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/41.wav",
        "text": "我是不是可以請我們消防署同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/42.wav",
        "text": "我們的儲能場是20瓩以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/43.wav",
        "text": "對這是以前的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/44.wav",
        "text": "下限我們並沒有上限的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/45.wav",
        "text": "就必須要受到指引的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/46.wav",
        "text": "然後要用一些消防安全設備設施安全距離"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/47.wav",
        "text": "甚至一些防爆措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/48.wav",
        "text": "我們就要符合規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/49.wav",
        "text": "所以越高其實它受到的保護是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/50.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/51.wav",
        "text": "因為是我前幾天看到資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/52.wav",
        "text": "我有這一層質疑而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/53.wav",
        "text": "而那個消防指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/54.wav",
        "text": "畢竟是針對以前20瓩的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/55.wav",
        "text": "但現在的技術比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/56.wav",
        "text": "它的容量跟什麼都比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/57.wav",
        "text": "再麻煩各位看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/58.wav",
        "text": "這有沒有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/59.wav",
        "text": "我下一次準備好資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/60.wav",
        "text": "我可以再來請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/61.wav",
        "text": "委員我想這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/62.wav",
        "text": "你可不可以就你那個個案的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/63.wav",
        "text": "給我們一份資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/64.wav",
        "text": "我們消防署就會告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/65.wav",
        "text": "因為我們跟你說這是下限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/66.wav",
        "text": "我們也必須要去做一下計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/67.wav",
        "text": "\n我現在想要跟部長請教的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/68.wav",
        "text": "主要是蘆洲南北區段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/69.wav",
        "text": "徵收的那個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/70.wav",
        "text": "因為在6月20號的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/71.wav",
        "text": "新北市議員李翁月娥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/72.wav",
        "text": "蘆洲民眾渴望醫院已經非常久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/73.wav",
        "text": "他常接到來自臺大榮總長庚跟新光醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/74.wav",
        "text": "希望住院但是都沒有醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/75.wav",
        "text": "我主要是想要請教這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/76.wav",
        "text": "目前是卡在什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/77.wav",
        "text": "因為已經4年過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/78.wav",
        "text": "目前進度在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/79.wav",
        "text": "跟委員很簡單地報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/80.wav",
        "text": "第一個蘆南蘆北的都市計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/81.wav",
        "text": "必須要跟原來三重的果菜批發市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/82.wav",
        "text": "共同考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/83.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/84.wav",
        "text": "我們已經跟他講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/85.wav",
        "text": "必須要先把三重果菜批發市場裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/86.wav",
        "text": "包括容積率的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/87.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/88.wav",
        "text": "通過了以後才能考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/89.wav",
        "text": "在蘆南蘆北是不是要設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/90.wav",
        "text": "包括可能說到的是醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/91.wav",
        "text": "或者有人有其他設施等等這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/92.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/93.wav",
        "text": "然後第二個在土徵裡面有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/94.wav",
        "text": "不管是什麼樣的公共設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/95.wav",
        "text": "按照我們在處理都市計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/96.wav",
        "text": "或是處理土地徵收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/97.wav",
        "text": "不管是區段徵收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/98.wav",
        "text": "我們都有一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/99.wav",
        "text": "就是針對它的公益性必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/100.wav",
        "text": "要去回復原來民意上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/101.wav",
        "text": "譬如說有人提出了連署這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/102.wav",
        "text": "那就必須要去協調或是溝通清楚以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/103.wav",
        "text": "給我們在內政部的審查條例來辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/104.wav",
        "text": "我們跟侯市長在處理的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/105.wav",
        "text": "他也瞭解這個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/106.wav",
        "text": "也就是說你不能把三重還沒有通過的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/107.wav",
        "text": "然後就說已經到蘆洲通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/108.wav",
        "text": "了然後兩個一起併行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/109.wav",
        "text": "而是必須要先取消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/110.wav",
        "text": "原來在都市計畫通過裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/111.wav",
        "text": "撤銷它原來的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/112.wav",
        "text": "然後重新提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/113.wav",
        "text": "我們才能夠移到蘆南蘆北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/114.wav",
        "text": "再考慮新的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/115.wav",
        "text": "不能夠兩個一起做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/116.wav",
        "text": "然後說已經移過來這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/117.wav",
        "text": "所以沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/118.wav",
        "text": "這樣太簡化這個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/119.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道吳委員非常重視程序正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/120.wav",
        "text": "我就簡單說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/121.wav",
        "text": "因為這個計畫之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/122.wav",
        "text": "其實已經有在處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/123.wav",
        "text": "我想部長一定很能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/124.wav",
        "text": "完整瞭解這個計畫的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/125.wav",
        "text": "我們只是接續處理而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/126.wav",
        "text": "那就麻煩部長能夠也盯著這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/127.wav",
        "text": "因為我想不管其他怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/128.wav",
        "text": "至少醫院這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/129.wav",
        "text": "並不涉及任何問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/130.wav",
        "text": "因為蘆洲20萬人五股9萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/131.wav",
        "text": "我們俗稱的萬坪醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/132.wav",
        "text": "如果蓋好的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/133.wav",
        "text": "其實就有30萬人會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/134.wav",
        "text": "蓋醫院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/135.wav",
        "text": "好像衛福部也沒有收到相關訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/136.wav",
        "text": "因為醫院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/137.wav",
        "text": "其實跟都市計畫有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/138.wav",
        "text": "醫院的興建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/139.wav",
        "text": "是當地所有人都非常期望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/140.wav",
        "text": "的不管他是老人小孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/141.wav",
        "text": "黨派什麼都不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/142.wav",
        "text": "他們都非常在乎這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/143.wav",
        "text": "所以我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/144.wav",
        "text": "部長你能不能夠在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/145.wav",
        "text": "大概最晚這個計畫什麼時候能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/146.wav",
        "text": "我們在上個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/147.wav",
        "text": "剛剛審查完這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/148.wav",
        "text": "已經把相關意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/149.wav",
        "text": "送給新北市政府參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/150.wav",
        "text": "我們不管是在處理都市計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/151.wav",
        "text": "或是處理土地徵收的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/152.wav",
        "text": "如果條件都完備的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/153.wav",
        "text": "其實內政部是不會卡關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/154.wav",
        "text": "但是條件不完備的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/155.wav",
        "text": "我們就會要求把條件一定要補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/156.wav",
        "text": "包括對民意上面的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/157.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/158.wav",
        "text": "我們撇開都更不談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/159.wav",
        "text": "但至少如果有其他方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/160.wav",
        "text": "可以先徵收這個醫院用地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/161.wav",
        "text": "然後讓他們做醫院的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/162.wav",
        "text": "如果有這個可能性法規上可以的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/163.wav",
        "text": "再麻煩部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/164.wav",
        "text": "一般來講都市計畫或者是都更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/165.wav",
        "text": "它是一個完整的區塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/166.wav",
        "text": "不可能切割來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/167.wav",
        "text": "我瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/168.wav",
        "text": "因為那裡面有包括公共設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/169.wav",
        "text": "或是包括其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/170.wav",
        "text": "必須要處理的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/171.wav",
        "text": "這就是為什麼都市計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/172.wav",
        "text": "需要補足的時候才能通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/173.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/174.wav",
        "text": "再麻煩部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/175.wav",
        "text": "在法規能夠允許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/176.wav",
        "text": "的情況下我知道這在法規上有些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/177.wav",
        "text": "我自己之前在新北當法制局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/178.wav",
        "text": "但是再麻煩部長在法規能夠允許的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/179.wav",
        "text": "至少我們以醫院為優先的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/180.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/181.wav",
        "text": "儘量在都市計畫上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/182.wav",
        "text": "就是我剛剛所提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/183.wav",
        "text": "的只要所有條件都完備的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/184.wav",
        "text": "我們在都市計畫的委員審查裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/185.wav",
        "text": "是不會卡關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/186.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/187.wav",
        "text": "就等你這一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/188.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154310/189.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/0.wav",
        "text": "有請教育部長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/1.wav",
        "text": "心理諮商這一塊是不是要再加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/2.wav",
        "text": "實際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/3.wav",
        "text": "一個學生會出現上述行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/4.wav",
        "text": "不是只有心理輔導的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/5.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都知道在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/6.wav",
        "text": "同儕關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/7.wav",
        "text": "甚至是課程設計家庭因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/8.wav",
        "text": "或是他有沒有參加社團活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/9.wav",
        "text": "\n所以本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/10.wav",
        "text": "建議教育部在探討這個議題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/11.wav",
        "text": "我們不能把它窄化成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/12.wav",
        "text": "諮商的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/13.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會出現這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/14.wav",
        "text": "才能找到解決的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/15.wav",
        "text": "主要是討論心理輔導這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/16.wav",
        "text": "本席也有幾個建議請部長聽聽看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/17.wav",
        "text": "這也是很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/18.wav",
        "text": "學校反映的\n第一個當然是專輔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/19.wav",
        "text": "有沒有朝這個方向規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/20.wav",
        "text": "我們在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/21.wav",
        "text": "也有提到實際上有時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/22.wav",
        "text": "而是根本找不到人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/23.wav",
        "text": "現在很多學校徵專輔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/24.wav",
        "text": "其實這個問題大家已經說很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/25.wav",
        "text": "但是一直沒辦法解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/26.wav",
        "text": "有沒有什麼方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/27.wav",
        "text": "總不能我們每次都在這邊說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/28.wav",
        "text": "談到今年明年都是一樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/29.wav",
        "text": "但是都沒有解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/30.wav",
        "text": "這樣也很奇怪吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/31.wav",
        "text": "這絕對不會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/32.wav",
        "text": "是我們最在意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/33.wav",
        "text": "教師來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/34.wav",
        "text": "我們大概都有達到94"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/35.wav",
        "text": "問題是據"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/36.wav",
        "text": "席了解很多學校都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/37.wav",
        "text": "偏鄉地區"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/38.wav",
        "text": "確實是有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/39.wav",
        "text": "繼續努力啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/40.wav",
        "text": "建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/41.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/42.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊開會好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/43.wav",
        "text": "有一點吵雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/44.wav",
        "text": "和老師建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/45.wav",
        "text": "教師和行政人員的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/46.wav",
        "text": "為什麼因為現在學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/47.wav",
        "text": "變化是非常迅速的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/48.wav",
        "text": "如果我們輔導學生的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/49.wav",
        "text": "速度趕不上環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/50.wav",
        "text": "達到效果所以是不是可以增加學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/51.wav",
        "text": "這是我們一直在努力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/52.wav",
        "text": "一直在做"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/53.wav",
        "text": "要繼續努力啦還有一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/54.wav",
        "text": "親子講座有可能嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/55.wav",
        "text": "或者讓他們有機會來學校和"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/56.wav",
        "text": "往這個方向努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/57.wav",
        "text": "強迫他一定要來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/58.wav",
        "text": "家長能夠來學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/59.wav",
        "text": "不管用什麼樣的方式參與"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/60.wav",
        "text": "小孩子的發展我覺得這是好事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/61.wav",
        "text": "家長也扮演很關鍵的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/62.wav",
        "text": "部長因為本席一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/63.wav",
        "text": "直滿關心校園安全的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/64.wav",
        "text": "溝通過這件事情本席希望在國中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/65.wav",
        "text": "增設校安人員當時也有提臨時提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/66.wav",
        "text": "但教育部的回復"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/67.wav",
        "text": "完全風馬牛不相干"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/68.wav",
        "text": "你們是說有增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/69.wav",
        "text": "學生事務副組長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/70.wav",
        "text": "席要求增加"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/71.wav",
        "text": "校園安全人員主要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/72.wav",
        "text": "是因為你要現在的老師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/73.wav",
        "text": "去面對參加幫派的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/74.wav",
        "text": "但他沒有能力去處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/75.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n你們現在又增加副組長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/76.wav",
        "text": "但副組長還是一般的老師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/77.wav",
        "text": "所以這不是人力的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/78.wav",
        "text": "問題增加一個兩個或三個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/79.wav",
        "text": "人這根本不是重點嘛重點是要增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/80.wav",
        "text": "能夠處理參加幫派小朋友"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/81.wav",
        "text": "針對本席的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/82.wav",
        "text": "增加學務副組長並沒有回答到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/83.wav",
        "text": "部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/84.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的關心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/85.wav",
        "text": "而且這是很多國中校長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/86.wav",
        "text": "老師向本席反映的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/87.wav",
        "text": "有相當程度的掌握"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/88.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們努力在思考的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/89.wav",
        "text": "但總要給我們一個期限"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/90.wav",
        "text": "因為從剛才到現在你都說這是努力的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/91.wav",
        "text": "但本席不知道這個努力的方向是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/92.wav",
        "text": "兩年後完成還是三年後完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/93.wav",
        "text": "本席現在很具體的問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/94.wav",
        "text": "在國中增加校安人員這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/95.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以提供一份比較詳細的評估報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/96.wav",
        "text": "因為我們之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/97.wav",
        "text": "也有提臨時提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/98.wav",
        "text": "但是你們的回答卻完全牛頭不對馬嘴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/99.wav",
        "text": "研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/100.wav",
        "text": "一個月可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/101.wav",
        "text": "因為馬上就要放暑假了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/102.wav",
        "text": "下個學期開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/103.wav",
        "text": "國中就可以有校安人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/104.wav",
        "text": "這是很多學校的期望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/105.wav",
        "text": "事務副組長沒有辦法滿足那個需求是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/106.wav",
        "text": "我只能回答委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/107.wav",
        "text": "討論也在研議當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/108.wav",
        "text": "如果可以的話是不是可以給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/109.wav",
        "text": "三個月這樣下學期都過完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/110.wav",
        "text": "希望你們暑假前給本席一個答案好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/111.wav",
        "text": "開學前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/112.wav",
        "text": "開學前給本席答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/113.wav",
        "text": "最後本席要提醒教育部一件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/114.wav",
        "text": "教育部現在不是有一個重編國語辭典嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/115.wav",
        "text": "裡面的問題非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/116.wav",
        "text": "之前有媒體人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/117.wav",
        "text": "找到一個詞點點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/118.wav",
        "text": "一男一女進到房間裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/119.wav",
        "text": "接下來的事情點點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/120.wav",
        "text": "本席不知道為什麼教育部的例句會有這種"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/121.wav",
        "text": "有點性暗示的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/122.wav",
        "text": "一位民眾向本席陳情的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/123.wav",
        "text": "密西西比河"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/124.wav",
        "text": "是世界最長河流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/125.wav",
        "text": "那個民眾說根本不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/126.wav",
        "text": "啊最長的河流是尼羅河"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/127.wav",
        "text": "對不對也有人認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/128.wav",
        "text": "是亞馬遜河"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/129.wav",
        "text": "但不管是哪一條河都不是密西西比河"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/130.wav",
        "text": "\n結果民眾去陳情之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/131.wav",
        "text": "教育部的回文是說這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/132.wav",
        "text": "我們要找專家研議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/133.wav",
        "text": "世界最長河流為什麼要研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/134.wav",
        "text": "還是誰來研議這需要研議嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/135.wav",
        "text": "你們只要到Google搜尋看維基百科和大英百科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/136.wav",
        "text": "全書就可以知道為什麼要研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/137.wav",
        "text": "後來他覺得教育部太官僚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/138.wav",
        "text": "大家關心議題的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/139.wav",
        "text": "結果民眾的陳情你們是如此"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/140.wav",
        "text": "不當一回事都要找到民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/141.wav",
        "text": "建議教育部既然現在大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/142.wav",
        "text": "對這個重編國語辭典"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/143.wav",
        "text": "有那麼多意見你們可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/144.wav",
        "text": "自己找專家等等重新審視一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/145.wav",
        "text": "席建議你們辦一個活動全民來找碴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/146.wav",
        "text": "們可以列一點獎勵措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/147.wav",
        "text": "請大家看國語辭典裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/148.wav",
        "text": "有沒有什麼解釋不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/149.wav",
        "text": "或是例句不通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/150.wav",
        "text": "只要能夠提供給教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/151.wav",
        "text": "教育部就馬上改而且給予一定的獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/152.wav",
        "text": "這樣就可以趕快把這個辭典"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/153.wav",
        "text": "修訂好好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/154.wav",
        "text": "委員的建議非常有建設性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/155.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是不錯的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/156.wav",
        "text": "我們來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/157.wav",
        "text": "社會各行各領域的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/158.wav",
        "text": "讓這個辭典更完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/159.wav",
        "text": "我想我們可以來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/160.wav",
        "text": "好終於有一個立刻回應的議題了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154311/161.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/0.wav",
        "text": "請林次長跟航港局葉局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/1.wav",
        "text": "請葉局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/2.wav",
        "text": "我想先請你們看一下這個新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/3.wav",
        "text": "這是發生在2020年的新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/4.wav",
        "text": "在作業的時候因為他爬高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/5.wav",
        "text": "所以從6公尺高的爬梯摔落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/6.wav",
        "text": "摔落以後新聞上面寫受傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/7.wav",
        "text": "可是最後他是重度的身障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/8.wav",
        "text": "甚至已經有半身不遂的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/9.wav",
        "text": "這個事件當時有3家媒體報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/10.wav",
        "text": "但這家公司完全沒有通報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/11.wav",
        "text": "無論是通報航港局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/12.wav",
        "text": "還是通報地方的勞工局它都沒有通報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/13.wav",
        "text": "\n我在2022年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/14.wav",
        "text": "針對這個事件有請航港局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/15.wav",
        "text": "到這艘船上去做職安狀況的檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/16.wav",
        "text": "來看看當時航港局回我的回文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/17.wav",
        "text": "航港局都說沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/18.wav",
        "text": "包括裡面寫了什麼防墜啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/19.wav",
        "text": "寫說經查該公司已經提供什麼什麼什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/20.wav",
        "text": "還附上了佐證的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/21.wav",
        "text": "但我後來請地方的勞工局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/22.wav",
        "text": "再去做一次職安的勞檢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/23.wav",
        "text": "可以看一下有非常多違反法令的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/24.wav",
        "text": "該公司已經提供的那些資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/25.wav",
        "text": "他們附上的佐證證據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/26.wav",
        "text": "都只有購買的收據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/27.wav",
        "text": "都是報價單購買的收據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/28.wav",
        "text": "可是這些設備到底有沒有使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/29.wav",
        "text": "其實並不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/30.wav",
        "text": "結果當時航港局一樣是回復我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/31.wav",
        "text": "沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/32.wav",
        "text": "這家公司沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/33.wav",
        "text": "\n但我叫地方勞工局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/34.wav",
        "text": "也就是叫我們的職安署去檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/35.wav",
        "text": "卻一大堆問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/36.wav",
        "text": "包括剛剛說的違反法令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/37.wav",
        "text": "它根本就未設置上下船舶之安全設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/38.wav",
        "text": "然後沒有提供一般的安全衛生訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/39.wav",
        "text": "沒有提供安全衛生工作守則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/40.wav",
        "text": "我要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/41.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你們說沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/42.wav",
        "text": "別人都看得出問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/43.wav",
        "text": "原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/44.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/45.wav",
        "text": "我們的確有同仁跟驗船中心的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/46.wav",
        "text": "一起上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/47.wav",
        "text": "檢查這個船舶的安全設施狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/48.wav",
        "text": "事實上並不是完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/49.wav",
        "text": "沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/50.wav",
        "text": "那你回我的文是說沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/51.wav",
        "text": "我們有提醒要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/52.wav",
        "text": "你回我的文是說你沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/53.wav",
        "text": "可能文字上沒有表達得很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/54.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫文字上表達沒有很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/55.wav",
        "text": "你回我的文就是說沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/56.wav",
        "text": "這部分我想我們再來做要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/57.wav",
        "text": "局長我想請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/58.wav",
        "text": "我們船員相關的勞動權益是用船員法來保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/59.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/60.wav",
        "text": "局長請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/61.wav",
        "text": "你覺得目前船員法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/62.wav",
        "text": "對於船員的勞動權益保障是足夠的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/63.wav",
        "text": "保障船員勞動權益的特別法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/64.wav",
        "text": "我問你足不足夠嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/65.wav",
        "text": "我們都有持續在做檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/66.wav",
        "text": "不是什麼持續做檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/67.wav",
        "text": "你當局長很多年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/68.wav",
        "text": "你對船員法也非常非常熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/69.wav",
        "text": "我現在問以你的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/70.wav",
        "text": "你認為船員法來保障我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/71.wav",
        "text": "船員的勞動權益足不足夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/72.wav",
        "text": "你又不是第一天上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/73.wav",
        "text": "你又不是這禮拜才上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/74.wav",
        "text": "我們最近的修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/75.wav",
        "text": "局長我給你看下面幾個新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/76.wav",
        "text": "這個新聞是6月12日高雄港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/77.wav",
        "text": "輝豐輪爆炸3名船員燒燙傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/78.wav",
        "text": "再下面一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/79.wav",
        "text": "這個是2022年10月臺中港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/80.wav",
        "text": "德運輪維修作業的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/81.wav",
        "text": "發生高處墜落的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/82.wav",
        "text": "再下面一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/83.wav",
        "text": "2022年1月臺中港船員墜海事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/84.wav",
        "text": "再給你看一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/85.wav",
        "text": "這是2021年10月基隆港船員墜落的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/86.wav",
        "text": "這麼多的事件擺在眼前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/87.wav",
        "text": "局長你覺得你要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/88.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會再加強要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/89.wav",
        "text": "局長你覺得這些問題的發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/90.wav",
        "text": "是我們的法規有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/91.wav",
        "text": "還是執法有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/92.wav",
        "text": "我想職安衛這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/93.wav",
        "text": "我們應該有再加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/94.wav",
        "text": "查核跟監督的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/95.wav",
        "text": "局長你現在講這些話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/96.wav",
        "text": "用這些模糊的言詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/97.wav",
        "text": "今天真的沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/98.wav",
        "text": "再去搪塞了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/99.wav",
        "text": "長前面我叫你去勞檢的那一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/100.wav",
        "text": "你說是他們中文表達有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/101.wav",
        "text": "你看看後面是什麼樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/102.wav",
        "text": "次長你在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/103.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說的那一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/104.wav",
        "text": "從6公尺高墜下來的船員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/105.wav",
        "text": "他在去年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/106.wav",
        "text": "被公司解僱退保了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/107.wav",
        "text": "這個解僱退保是他還在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/108.wav",
        "text": "就醫的期間被解僱退保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/109.wav",
        "text": "勞動部的職安署要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/110.wav",
        "text": "航港局去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/111.wav",
        "text": "結果今年4月23日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/112.wav",
        "text": "航港局發了一個公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/113.wav",
        "text": "成為船公司的幫兇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/114.wav",
        "text": "公司與船員簽訂船員定期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/115.wav",
        "text": "僱傭契約期間為12個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/116.wav",
        "text": "這個定期契約到期以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/117.wav",
        "text": "它就不用再符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/118.wav",
        "text": "船員法第22條對勞工的保護了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/119.wav",
        "text": "\n這是航港局自己發出來的公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/120.wav",
        "text": "明明白白把自己的船員法第22條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/121.wav",
        "text": "捅了一個大洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/122.wav",
        "text": "跟船公司說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/123.wav",
        "text": "只要定期契約到期以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/124.wav",
        "text": "你就不用遵守了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/125.wav",
        "text": "局長我問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/126.wav",
        "text": "你們把自己的船員法第22條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/127.wav",
        "text": "捅了這麼一個大洞出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/128.wav",
        "text": "到底是不是受到船公司的施壓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/129.wav",
        "text": "不然怎麼會做出離譜的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/130.wav",
        "text": "這個部分已經有提醒我們同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/131.wav",
        "text": "在法令解釋上要更為謹慎周延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/132.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/133.wav",
        "text": "我們目前會儘快發函給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/134.wav",
        "text": "這個個案的船員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/135.wav",
        "text": "來澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/136.wav",
        "text": "就是依照船員法第22條的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/137.wav",
        "text": "他的醫療相關權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/138.wav",
        "text": "不會受到定期僱傭契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/139.wav",
        "text": "期限屆期影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/140.wav",
        "text": "局長從一開始我請你們去檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/141.wav",
        "text": "你們說沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/142.wav",
        "text": "別人檢查就檢出一堆問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/143.wav",
        "text": "你跟我說那只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/144.wav",
        "text": "你們公文的寫法有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/145.wav",
        "text": "到今天你們出了這個函文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/146.wav",
        "text": "用這個方式成為船公司的幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/147.wav",
        "text": "兇我要說其實現在航港局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/148.wav",
        "text": "在船員勞動權益上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/149.wav",
        "text": "幾乎是一攤爛帳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/150.wav",
        "text": "啊我這樣形容並不為過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/151.wav",
        "text": "一攤爛帳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/152.wav",
        "text": "一堆船員都來跟我們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/153.wav",
        "text": "他們遇到職災的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/154.wav",
        "text": "遇到勞資爭議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/155.wav",
        "text": "都是求助無門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/156.wav",
        "text": "完全看不到航港局積極的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/157.wav",
        "text": "一直在推卸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/158.wav",
        "text": "局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/159.wav",
        "text": "我們會再做深入的整體檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/160.wav",
        "text": "局長我再呈現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/161.wav",
        "text": "一張統計表給你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/162.wav",
        "text": "再給我一點點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/163.wav",
        "text": "這張統計表是107年到111年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/164.wav",
        "text": "航港局統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/165.wav",
        "text": "各年度船員職災的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/166.wav",
        "text": "每個年份有2件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/167.wav",
        "text": "111年只有1件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/168.wav",
        "text": "啊在110年上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/169.wav",
        "text": "連我剛剛說的那一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/170.wav",
        "text": "從6公尺高摔下來的船員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/171.wav",
        "text": "在上面都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/172.wav",
        "text": "啊航港局真的相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/173.wav",
        "text": "你自己統計的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/174.wav",
        "text": "是真的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/175.wav",
        "text": "局長你真的相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/176.wav",
        "text": "你們交出來的統計資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/177.wav",
        "text": "是真的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/178.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這些新聞上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/179.wav",
        "text": "明明都有的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/180.wav",
        "text": "在上面都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/181.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有掩蓋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/182.wav",
        "text": "還是故意讓通報系統設計的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/183.wav",
        "text": "對職災的船員不友善"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/184.wav",
        "text": "如果有錯誤的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/185.wav",
        "text": "我們會立即地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/186.wav",
        "text": "儘快地更正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/187.wav",
        "text": "局長我今天在這邊跟你講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/188.wav",
        "text": "我也要跟次長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/189.wav",
        "text": "不是在講個案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/190.wav",
        "text": "這整個保障船員勞動的系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/191.wav",
        "text": "根本就是一攤爛帳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/192.wav",
        "text": "啊次長我可不可以要求交通部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/193.wav",
        "text": "至少要針對船員權利的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/194.wav",
        "text": "有一個通盤的專案檢討計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/195.wav",
        "text": "我要求每個月來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/196.wav",
        "text": "跟我們辦公室彙報一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/197.wav",
        "text": "到底這個改善計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/198.wav",
        "text": "進行到什麼地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/199.wav",
        "text": "每一個環節是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/200.wav",
        "text": "目前對船員的勞動權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/201.wav",
        "text": "幾乎是千瘡百孔的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/202.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/203.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛提的統計資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/204.wav",
        "text": "第二個統計的過程事件"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/205.wav",
        "text": "第三個到底有哪些地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/206.wav",
        "text": "應該要再扣合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/207.wav",
        "text": "都是該通報沒通報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/208.wav",
        "text": "然後最後要解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/209.wav",
        "text": "還成為船公司的幫這幾件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/210.wav",
        "text": "先請航港局整理起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/211.wav",
        "text": "再來跟您報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/212.wav",
        "text": "我們要求每個月來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/213.wav",
        "text": "跟我們彙報一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/214.wav",
        "text": "針對船員權益保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/215.wav",
        "text": "通盤檢討計畫的進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/216.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/217.wav",
        "text": "是航港局配合辦理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/218.wav",
        "text": "我們一起處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/219.wav",
        "text": "我要麻煩次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/220.wav",
        "text": "這件事情請你們一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/221.wav",
        "text": "了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/222.wav",
        "text": "我已經忍無可忍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/223.wav",
        "text": "這不是單一的個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/224.wav",
        "text": "從法規面也一起檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/225.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154312/226.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/0.wav",
        "text": "請次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/1.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/2.wav",
        "text": "今天的主題是智慧航安"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/3.wav",
        "text": "智慧港灣（港口）相關計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/4.wav",
        "text": "辦理情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/5.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/6.wav",
        "text": "回去要增列智慧臺鐵"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/7.wav",
        "text": "智慧臺鐵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/8.wav",
        "text": "好好今天就談臺鐵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/9.wav",
        "text": "雖然臺鐵今天不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/10.wav",
        "text": "最近發生了和仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/11.wav",
        "text": "和仁隧道南口土石流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/12.wav",
        "text": "這個是在6月21日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/13.wav",
        "text": "本席在這個時間發生之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/14.wav",
        "text": "雖然已經知道了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/15.wav",
        "text": "但是還是要搭火車"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/16.wav",
        "text": "我當天還是搭火車"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/17.wav",
        "text": "而我搭的那一班車還是滿滿的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/18.wav",
        "text": "繼續搭火車"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/19.wav",
        "text": "加強去精進相關的設施\n這"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/20.wav",
        "text": "臺鐵的新自強號229車次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/21.wav",
        "text": "旅客受傷人數有8個人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/22.wav",
        "text": "跟崇德車站之間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/23.wav",
        "text": "需要去加強的地方"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/24.wav",
        "text": "讓大家可以躲避"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/25.wav",
        "text": "包括之前的0403地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/26.wav",
        "text": "臺8線也是因為有明隧道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/27.wav",
        "text": "所以怎麼樣去加強"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/28.wav",
        "text": "0403地震之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/29.wav",
        "text": "前天還在4級"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/30.wav",
        "text": "級喔餘震不斷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/31.wav",
        "text": "整體的去評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/32.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/33.wav",
        "text": "被認為說已經有看見了土"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/34.wav",
        "text": "今天早上9點多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/35.wav",
        "text": "臺鐵有澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/36.wav",
        "text": "說事實上這個監視器"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/37.wav",
        "text": "並不是針對這方面的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/38.wav",
        "text": "不管是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/39.wav",
        "text": "本席不是要去追究責任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/40.wav",
        "text": "最主要是怎麼樣去精進"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/41.wav",
        "text": "去強化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/42.wav",
        "text": "今天的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/43.wav",
        "text": "航安智慧港口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/44.wav",
        "text": "智慧臺鐵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/45.wav",
        "text": "北迴鐵路"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/46.wav",
        "text": "開始"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/47.wav",
        "text": "因為公路也是你管的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/48.wav",
        "text": "蘇花改都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/49.wav",
        "text": "然後蘇花安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/50.wav",
        "text": "現在怎麼樣去加快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/51.wav",
        "text": "在還沒有完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/52.wav",
        "text": "開始動工之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/53.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣去加智慧"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/54.wav",
        "text": "智慧臺9線好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/55.wav",
        "text": "蘇花改"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/56.wav",
        "text": "蘇花安"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/57.wav",
        "text": "去精進的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/58.wav",
        "text": "是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/59.wav",
        "text": "員報告交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/60.wav",
        "text": "您大概也了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/61.wav",
        "text": "所以易致災路段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/62.wav",
        "text": "部長是要求宜蘭花蓮臺東"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/63.wav",
        "text": "易致災路段土石流潛勢區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/64.wav",
        "text": "都要先標示出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/65.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個鐵公路系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/66.wav",
        "text": "您剛剛講的明隧道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/67.wav",
        "text": "可不可以有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/68.wav",
        "text": "蓋明隧道的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/69.wav",
        "text": "先做潛勢區域的偵測"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/70.wav",
        "text": "跟預警"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/71.wav",
        "text": "這些工作都是目前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/72.wav",
        "text": "鐵公路單位要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/73.wav",
        "text": "這是應該要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/74.wav",
        "text": "了這沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/75.wav",
        "text": "是因為只有這一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/76.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/77.wav",
        "text": "是應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/78.wav",
        "text": "我們會積極來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/79.wav",
        "text": "繼續加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/80.wav",
        "text": "因為最起碼監視器的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/81.wav",
        "text": "會比較快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/82.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/83.wav",
        "text": "目前部長6月23日開過會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/84.wav",
        "text": "農業部的水保跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/85.wav",
        "text": "以前叫水保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/86.wav",
        "text": "的這幾個單位都找過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/87.wav",
        "text": "有討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/88.wav",
        "text": "基本上就是野溪的整治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/89.wav",
        "text": "水位計的裝設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/90.wav",
        "text": "大清水橋的橋位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/91.wav",
        "text": "跟水位淹沒的偵測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/92.wav",
        "text": "預警都要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/93.wav",
        "text": "在一個月內要提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/94.wav",
        "text": "這個更要加快好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154313/95.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/0.wav",
        "text": "航港局葉局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/1.wav",
        "text": "港務公司李董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/2.wav",
        "text": "邱委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/3.wav",
        "text": "大概在桃園以南跟彰化以北"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/4.wav",
        "text": "未來離岸風電的機組會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/5.wav",
        "text": "密集在這個航線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/6.wav",
        "text": "會有很多的離岸風機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/7.wav",
        "text": "能夠提高這些離岸風機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/8.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有相關的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/9.wav",
        "text": "彰化地區大概是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/10.wav",
        "text": "目前風機的主要密集區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/11.wav",
        "text": "所以在彰化地段航港局這次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/12.wav",
        "text": "那是未來就是明年開始要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/13.wav",
        "text": "現在監控的區域是673平方公里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/14.wav",
        "text": "裝了這4座雷達站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/15.wav",
        "text": "再加上VTS系統可以擴充到4,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/16.wav",
        "text": "所以安全無虞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/17.wav",
        "text": "李董事長對於高雄港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/18.wav",
        "text": "目前主要的重點在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/19.wav",
        "text": "像高港基港跟臺中港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/20.wav",
        "text": "你要不要稍微簡述一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/21.wav",
        "text": "主要是從2017年就開始做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/22.wav",
        "text": "e主要就是操船系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/23.wav",
        "text": "海氣象還有相關的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/24.wav",
        "text": "就是以高雄港為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/25.wav",
        "text": "有成效以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/26.wav",
        "text": "就往別的港口做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/27.wav",
        "text": "你們投入的預算大概多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/28.wav",
        "text": "高雄港的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/29.wav",
        "text": "高雄港的部分投入預算大概多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/30.wav",
        "text": "從2017年開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/31.wav",
        "text": "我希望變成一個安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/32.wav",
        "text": "國際競爭力的港口很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/33.wav",
        "text": "船舶出入安全最重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/34.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有安全系統的輔助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/35.wav",
        "text": "進出港的安全性就會降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/36.wav",
        "text": "再特別的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/37.wav",
        "text": "好會後我準備相關的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/38.wav",
        "text": "有沒有用在航空的部分呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/39.wav",
        "text": "我們有航管自動化跟航管的引導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/40.wav",
        "text": "目前夠不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/41.wav",
        "text": "目前還在提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/42.wav",
        "text": "是一直與時俱進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/43.wav",
        "text": "每10年為一個循環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/44.wav",
        "text": "會一直提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/45.wav",
        "text": "未來10年的航管提升計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/46.wav",
        "text": "我們就跟這個潮流一起可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/47.wav",
        "text": "可是我們不是ICAO的會員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/48.wav",
        "text": "對但是我們還是要遵守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/49.wav",
        "text": "因為我們的飛航情報區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/50.wav",
        "text": "是三百零多個之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/51.wav",
        "text": "左邊接香港上海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/52.wav",
        "text": "還有菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/53.wav",
        "text": "這些系統是建置在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/54.wav",
        "text": "我們有一個飛航服務總台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/55.wav",
        "text": "台有三十幾個助航"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/56.wav",
        "text": "小港機場場內本身就有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/57.wav",
        "text": "相關的ILS助導航系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/58.wav",
        "text": "同時它有南部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/59.wav",
        "text": "現在國內主要機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/60.wav",
        "text": "還是沒有辦法24小時營運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/61.wav",
        "text": "桃園可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/62.wav",
        "text": "午夜12點以後到下午4點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/63.wav",
        "text": "您說的是下午還是晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/64.wav",
        "text": "當然是晚上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/65.wav",
        "text": "午夜12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/66.wav",
        "text": "晚上高雄沒有班機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/67.wav",
        "text": "機場還是有一些大概12點起飛的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/68.wav",
        "text": "現在小港機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/69.wav",
        "text": "應該是新的擴建計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/70.wav",
        "text": "新的擴建計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/71.wav",
        "text": "當然要有新的能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/72.wav",
        "text": "航線的密集度都要提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/73.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能在未來擴建之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/74.wav",
        "text": "它的營運時間會拉長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/75.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/76.wav",
        "text": "投入金額滿高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/77.wav",
        "text": "但是要延長營業時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/78.wav",
        "text": "跟當地居民和噪音管制有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/79.wav",
        "text": "里反對延長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/80.wav",
        "text": "如果超過12點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/81.wav",
        "text": "也都要先打個招呼才能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/82.wav",
        "text": "除非為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/83.wav",
        "text": "早上4點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/84.wav",
        "text": "到6點這段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/85.wav",
        "text": "可能會維持多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/86.wav",
        "text": "就是管制6個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/87.wav",
        "text": "應該說只要宵禁都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/88.wav",
        "text": "我知道啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/89.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能有更好的替代方案呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/90.wav",
        "text": "目前民眾跟里長們沒有不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/91.wav",
        "text": "市政府是看民眾的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154314/92.wav",
        "text": "所以是當地民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/0.wav",
        "text": "請次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/1.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜臺鐵又發生相關事故"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/2.wav",
        "text": "我想次長你非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/3.wav",
        "text": "卓榮泰院長甚至直接跟花蓮鄉親道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/4.wav",
        "text": "說努力得還不夠快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/5.wav",
        "text": "我想這件事情是悲劇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/6.wav",
        "text": "我自己在花蓮住了將近20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/7.wav",
        "text": "從學生時代到結婚生了孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/8.wav",
        "text": "我的非常多親朋好友都會搭火車到花蓮來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/9.wav",
        "text": "我想鐵路安全這件事情是大家共同的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/10.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/11.wav",
        "text": "6月22日事故的主因我們都不做猜測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/12.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣有運安會的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/13.wav",
        "text": "我相信運安會在後續的很多工作進度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/14.wav",
        "text": "應該會給大家很多建議對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/15.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/16.wav",
        "text": "好那次長就您的角度運安會給我們的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/17.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是要認真的評估跟採納"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/18.wav",
        "text": "沒錯沒錯都有列管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/19.wav",
        "text": "因為投影片還沒出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/20.wav",
        "text": "我就唸內容給你聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/21.wav",
        "text": "不知道次長有沒有印象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/22.wav",
        "text": "他說在漢本隧道那一次被發現就慘了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/23.wav",
        "text": "我會被起訴是公共危險罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/24.wav",
        "text": "耶我那個工作就沒有了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/25.wav",
        "text": "正宮發現兩人的鹹濕對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/26.wav",
        "text": "我要講的不是這個八卦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/27.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/28.wav",
        "text": "如果在這一次的火車行車當中真的發生了意外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/29.wav",
        "text": "你覺得有任何機制可以預防這個問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/30.wav",
        "text": "報告委員這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/31.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得臺鐵有沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/32.wav",
        "text": "這位員工調離原工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/33.wav",
        "text": "並由政風機務運安等單位會同儘速進行釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/34.wav",
        "text": "要確認清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/35.wav",
        "text": "一樣是個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/36.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有通案的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/37.wav",
        "text": "可是剛剛您說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/38.wav",
        "text": "運安會給的建議非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/39.wav",
        "text": "審慎評估而且要列管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/40.wav",
        "text": "管109年新馬站重大鐵道事故"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/41.wav",
        "text": "當時運安會給交通部鐵道局的建議是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/42.wav",
        "text": "明訂機車駕駛室內安裝具備防撞及防火功能的聲音影像紀錄器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/43.wav",
        "text": "紀錄器至少應該有連續錄音錄影2個小時以內的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/44.wav",
        "text": "紀錄內容僅止用於事故調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/45.wav",
        "text": "公開跟發布還要有適當的限制範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/46.wav",
        "text": "也就是說兼顧了隱私跟安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/47.wav",
        "text": "請問次長您認同嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/48.wav",
        "text": "報告委員這中間有技術上的問題要評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/49.wav",
        "text": "這應該是從航空來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/50.wav",
        "text": "就是語音紀錄器跟飛行紀錄器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/51.wav",
        "text": "112年12月20日鐵路局回復運安會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/52.wav",
        "text": "反對立場說有關於機車駕駛室內建置錄影音紀錄器這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/53.wav",
        "text": "仍有爭論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/54.wav",
        "text": "尤其臺鐵局的駕駛反彈聲浪甚大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/55.wav",
        "text": "甚至還有下面的說明我就不再一一唸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/56.wav",
        "text": "\n請問次長你覺得真的是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/57.wav",
        "text": "沒有直接相關嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/58.wav",
        "text": "3年了要研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/59.wav",
        "text": "請問現在研議的進度是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/60.wav",
        "text": "當我們的院長在為這件事情對國人道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/61.wav",
        "text": "對花蓮鄉親道歉的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/62.wav",
        "text": "我們到底還要等到什麼時候才可以看到相關的安全機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/63.wav",
        "text": "到底我們還可以怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/64.wav",
        "text": "甚至在相關的回復當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/65.wav",
        "text": "你們自己也提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/66.wav",
        "text": "加拿大針對駕駛室內建置錄音器的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/67.wav",
        "text": "美國也都有相關作法了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/68.wav",
        "text": "這是國外的經驗我們來看臺灣的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/69.wav",
        "text": "這是你們自己寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/70.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣的環狀線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/71.wav",
        "text": "高雄輕軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/72.wav",
        "text": "都已經在駕駛室內裝設影音紀錄器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/73.wav",
        "text": "3年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/74.wav",
        "text": "次長你告訴我們該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/75.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/76.wav",
        "text": "我們要讓院長一再道歉嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/77.wav",
        "text": "還是要讓我們的總統道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/78.wav",
        "text": "我所聽到的訊息是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/79.wav",
        "text": "第一個車廂內的噪音如果很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/80.wav",
        "text": "裝這類的儀器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/81.wav",
        "text": "其實它能收錄到的效果並不是很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/82.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/83.wav",
        "text": "我們工會的同仁包含駕駛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/84.wav",
        "text": "他們可能會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/85.wav",
        "text": "在裡面裝對他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/86.wav",
        "text": "隱私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/87.wav",
        "text": "對我剛剛說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/88.wav",
        "text": "可是剛剛運安會的回復有說兼顧隱私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/89.wav",
        "text": "我們辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/90.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛都說了我自己住在花蓮十幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/91.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止花蓮的交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/92.wav",
        "text": "屢屢被作為政治操作或是新聞議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/93.wav",
        "text": "但是我們真心要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/94.wav",
        "text": "執政團隊對於這件事情我相信是在意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/95.wav",
        "text": "我相信兼顧駕駛員的隱私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/96.wav",
        "text": "跟相關的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/97.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會沒有衡平的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/98.wav",
        "text": "我時間有限我們辦公室積極的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/99.wav",
        "text": "希望在3個月內研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/100.wav",
        "text": "兼具保障隱私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/101.wav",
        "text": "跟最低度利用的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/102.wav",
        "text": "召開會議進行溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/103.wav",
        "text": "再次強調政府對於道路安全工作的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/104.wav",
        "text": "請問次長您認同嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/105.wav",
        "text": "研議作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/106.wav",
        "text": "我建議這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/107.wav",
        "text": "因為鐵道監理是鐵道局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/108.wav",
        "text": "我請他們在3個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/109.wav",
        "text": "就您提的這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/110.wav",
        "text": "好我們辦公室也會積極的追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/111.wav",
        "text": "但是也要看他們能不能推行出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/112.wav",
        "text": "我們都會進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/113.wav",
        "text": "有沒有機會在今年年底以前完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/114.wav",
        "text": "鐵路行車規則第37條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/115.wav",
        "text": "還有第68條的修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/116.wav",
        "text": "我相信應該也不是次長您可以承諾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/117.wav",
        "text": "可是您可不可以表示一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/118.wav",
        "text": "您的態度跟看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/119.wav",
        "text": "我認為對行車安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/120.wav",
        "text": "有關的法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/121.wav",
        "text": "執行作為SOP都應該要調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/122.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/123.wav",
        "text": "行車安全改善策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/124.wav",
        "text": "1個月內提供報告可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/125.wav",
        "text": "我們請臺鐵公司來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/126.wav",
        "text": "應該可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/127.wav",
        "text": "應該可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/128.wav",
        "text": "確定可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/129.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/130.wav",
        "text": "我們會再追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/131.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154315/132.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/0.wav",
        "text": "首先本席要表達我們非常支持國軍的防衛訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/1.wav",
        "text": "也希望部長能夠了解民眾的權益聽一下第一線民眾的心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/2.wav",
        "text": "空軍越來越繁忙頻繁的起降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/3.wav",
        "text": "所以擾民的頻率也增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/4.wav",
        "text": "首先本席在這裡要與部長溝通一個觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/5.wav",
        "text": "你應該可以了解現代人對於噪音的容忍度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/6.wav",
        "text": "與五年前十年前甚至二十年前是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/7.wav",
        "text": "關於這一點部長你了解嗎應該認同吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/8.wav",
        "text": "我的了解是確實現在我們面對的敵情嚴峻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/9.wav",
        "text": "控制因為它有時候甚至連夜間都會過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/10.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分確實對民眾造成一些干擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/11.wav",
        "text": "這一點要請民眾能夠諒解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/12.wav",
        "text": "對啊民眾可以諒解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/13.wav",
        "text": "但是國防部這邊可以給予民眾的補償補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/14.wav",
        "text": "民眾也希望國防部能夠多體恤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/15.wav",
        "text": "根據我的了解是有這個詳情是不是對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/16.wav",
        "text": "對本席接著講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/17.wav",
        "text": "民國92年1月8日以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/18.wav",
        "text": "於飛機航道下游房屋使用執照合於規定者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/19.wav",
        "text": "每戶補助門窗及冷氣3萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/20.wav",
        "text": "但是92年以後新蓋的房子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/21.wav",
        "text": "因為噪音管制法已經修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/22.wav",
        "text": "而且法令已經公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/23.wav",
        "text": "所以不在補助範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/24.wav",
        "text": "關於這一點本席要與部長溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/25.wav",
        "text": "請問誰會願意住在每天被飛機噪音影響的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/26.wav",
        "text": "當然有幾種可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/27.wav",
        "text": "一種是他的經濟能力有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/28.wav",
        "text": "只好買在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/29.wav",
        "text": "另一種就是92年買的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/30.wav",
        "text": "他根本不知道是在管制區內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/31.wav",
        "text": "那個補助卻是沿用那麼久之前的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/32.wav",
        "text": "規定是不是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/33.wav",
        "text": "民眾可以我一直強調我們的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/34.wav",
        "text": "我們支持國軍的防衛訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/35.wav",
        "text": "委員好我是空軍參謀長曹進平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/36.wav",
        "text": "其實我們的噪音補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/37.wav",
        "text": "與時間或其他的飛機機種並沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/38.wav",
        "text": "而是與噪音的程度有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/39.wav",
        "text": "達到噪音的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/40.wav",
        "text": "就會依照這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/41.wav",
        "text": "講得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/42.wav",
        "text": "我是空軍參謀長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/43.wav",
        "text": "參謀長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/44.wav",
        "text": "我們聽過一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/45.wav",
        "text": "嘛怕的是驚濤駭浪或海嘯對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/46.wav",
        "text": "可是滴水穿石"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/47.wav",
        "text": "只要它一直滴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/48.wav",
        "text": "同樣的噪音的分貝數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/49.wav",
        "text": "好像耳朵是可以忍受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/50.wav",
        "text": "但如果是長時間長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/51.wav",
        "text": "有多少人會崩潰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/52.wav",
        "text": "這一塊要納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/53.wav",
        "text": "將幾十公斤的重裝備揹在身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/54.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/55.wav",
        "text": "啊但是持續一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/56.wav",
        "text": "的話身體絕對會變形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/57.wav",
        "text": "我們的耳朵忍受噪音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/58.wav",
        "text": "剛剛一開始我也請教過部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/59.wav",
        "text": "現在的社會又與過去不太一樣姑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/60.wav",
        "text": "但是一個人長期持續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/61.wav",
        "text": "在這個噪音環境之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/62.wav",
        "text": "真的是會受不了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/63.wav",
        "text": "所以補助氣密窗的部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/64.wav",
        "text": "部分以國軍的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/65.wav",
        "text": "只要你們真的能夠苦民所苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/66.wav",
        "text": "體恤一下民眾的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/67.wav",
        "text": "大家都支持國軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/68.wav",
        "text": "是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/69.wav",
        "text": "而且是非常的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/70.wav",
        "text": "\n再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/71.wav",
        "text": "依據空軍補助的村里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/72.wav",
        "text": "還有一個很有趣的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/73.wav",
        "text": "我們新竹縣湖口鄉有一個鳳凰村"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/74.wav",
        "text": "在鳳凰村隔壁是鳳山村"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/75.wav",
        "text": "而鳳凰村就在鳳山村旁邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/76.wav",
        "text": "接近鳳山村它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/77.wav",
        "text": "它的噪音與鳳山村一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/78.wav",
        "text": "但是鳳凰村卻沒有補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/79.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以重新檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/80.wav",
        "text": "報告委員其實地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/81.wav",
        "text": "任何時候有需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/82.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以去做補監測的動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/83.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講到了監測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/84.wav",
        "text": "我們真的是要拜託一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/85.wav",
        "text": "假設以80分貝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/86.wav",
        "text": "為準雖然72分貝還不到80分貝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/87.wav",
        "text": "但它是持續不斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/88.wav",
        "text": "持續不斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/89.wav",
        "text": "不要講別的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/90.wav",
        "text": "本席的聲音大一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/91.wav",
        "text": "更何況是我們飛機起降的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/92.wav",
        "text": "關於這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/93.wav",
        "text": "部長你今天在這裡一定要重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/94.wav",
        "text": "還有我們的總長拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/95.wav",
        "text": "再來就是我們陸軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/96.wav",
        "text": "的部分空軍也可以參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/97.wav",
        "text": "陸軍航空601旅的做法它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/98.wav",
        "text": "它改發放補償金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/99.wav",
        "text": "陸軍的沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/100.wav",
        "text": "你可以就坐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/101.wav",
        "text": "我只是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/102.wav",
        "text": "空軍是不是可以比照陸軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/103.wav",
        "text": "這種體恤民眾的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/104.wav",
        "text": "其實這個噪音補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/105.wav",
        "text": "有兩種方式可以執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/106.wav",
        "text": "一個是設施的補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/107.wav",
        "text": "另一個是現金的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/108.wav",
        "text": "隔音窗以及給予個人的補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/109.wav",
        "text": "其實它執行的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/110.wav",
        "text": "是由地方政府提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/111.wav",
        "text": "經過噪改會討論同意之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/112.wav",
        "text": "由地方政府同意執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/113.wav",
        "text": "每個地方的執行方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/114.wav",
        "text": "在一個輪次執行完畢之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/115.wav",
        "text": "為什麼今天我要花時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/116.wav",
        "text": "特別來講這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/117.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有聽到地方的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/118.wav",
        "text": "地方執行沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/119.wav",
        "text": "才需要立委在這裡講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/120.wav",
        "text": "嘛讓部長在這裡站了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/121.wav",
        "text": "所以你們對於這一塊要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/122.wav",
        "text": "今天本席講完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/123.wav",
        "text": "對於你說的這個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/124.wav",
        "text": "我們會再跑一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/125.wav",
        "text": "可不可以不要讓我們失望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/126.wav",
        "text": "不要讓民眾失望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/127.wav",
        "text": "如果地方政府有提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/128.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會儘量配合辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/129.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/130.wav",
        "text": "麻煩部長麻煩總長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/131.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154316/132.wav",
        "text": "接下來請吳沛憶委員上台質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席本席想邀請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/3.wav",
        "text": "今天各黨委員包括藍綠白都有提出法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/4.wav",
        "text": "但是我們沒有看到行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/5.wav",
        "text": "這是為什麼呢是你們認為不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/6.wav",
        "text": "還是來不及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/7.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/8.wav",
        "text": "你們的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/9.wav",
        "text": "是不是和我們提案的方向一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/10.wav",
        "text": "不要我們通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/11.wav",
        "text": "你們的方向又不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/12.wav",
        "text": "這樣會很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/13.wav",
        "text": "社會安全網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/14.wav",
        "text": "在部長心中也是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/15.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/16.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/17.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼沒有你們的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/18.wav",
        "text": "們的方案都可以執行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/19.wav",
        "text": "家長非常憂心的問題表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/20.wav",
        "text": "以及執行的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/21.wav",
        "text": "不足以應對目前所需嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/22.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/23.wav",
        "text": "你點頭了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/24.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼行政院沒有提出版本呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/25.wav",
        "text": "應該是說追求更好的教育品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/26.wav",
        "text": "和服務品質事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/27.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在學生輔導法的部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/28.wav",
        "text": "綜合之後還要兼顧理想性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/29.wav",
        "text": "也要能夠務實推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/30.wav",
        "text": "你們也意識到這個問題的嚴重性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/31.wav",
        "text": "那行政院會提出院版嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/32.wav",
        "text": "我們正在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/33.wav",
        "text": "希望明天的院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/34.wav",
        "text": "院務會議能夠納入討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/35.wav",
        "text": "所以你們有送出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/36.wav",
        "text": "討論這樣立法院還是跑得比較快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/37.wav",
        "text": "民瘼還好你有回答希望明天行政院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/38.wav",
        "text": "原定120年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/39.wav",
        "text": "完成我們要提前到116年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/40.wav",
        "text": "國中則是提前到114年完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/41.wav",
        "text": "目前我們的政策還是如此嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/42.wav",
        "text": "對現在要提早到116年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/43.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/44.wav",
        "text": "我們的目標是朝116年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/45.wav",
        "text": "對116年嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/46.wav",
        "text": "國中是提早到明年114年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/47.wav",
        "text": "目前我們的政策是不是仍舊維持如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/48.wav",
        "text": "我們目前確實是朝那個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/49.wav",
        "text": "是朝這個方向嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/50.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要先把既定方向弄清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/51.wav",
        "text": "但是我們認為現在這個問題非常嚴肅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/52.wav",
        "text": "所以將專業改為專任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/53.wav",
        "text": "你同意吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/54.wav",
        "text": "朝專任的輔導人力努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/55.wav",
        "text": "也有一些專業的輔導人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/56.wav",
        "text": "我們提案改為專任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/57.wav",
        "text": "因為時間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/58.wav",
        "text": "接下來本席要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/59.wav",
        "text": "的是原本是1,200人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/60.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/61.wav",
        "text": "至少一半以上的大學都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/62.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/63.wav",
        "text": "所以本席一開始就問你院版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/64.wav",
        "text": "目前的時勢所需是迫切需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/65.wav",
        "text": "所以我們負責任的提出法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/66.wav",
        "text": "也希望明天行政院版要趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/67.wav",
        "text": "社工師也很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/68.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要提升輔導人員的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/69.wav",
        "text": "這當然是非常重要的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/70.wav",
        "text": "但是當學生涉及到現在最難解決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/71.wav",
        "text": "就是毒品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/72.wav",
        "text": "幫派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/73.wav",
        "text": "甚至有孩子被抓到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/74.wav",
        "text": "之後哇哇大哭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/75.wav",
        "text": "耶他說我只是去應徵工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/76.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會變成這樣所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/77.wav",
        "text": "在警局哇哇大哭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/78.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/79.wav",
        "text": "這三個問題讓我們很憂心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/80.wav",
        "text": "你們要怎麼解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/81.wav",
        "text": "我們的需求要讓心理師和社工師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/82.wav",
        "text": "這個功課很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/83.wav",
        "text": "我們要讓第一線的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/84.wav",
        "text": "面對教育現場的壓力能夠提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/85.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/86.wav",
        "text": "請你們把社工師和心理輔導師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/87.wav",
        "text": "怎麼分進合擊的方案給本席好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/88.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154317/89.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/0.wav",
        "text": "才240秒對於教育問題還沒有啦謝謝主席給本席240秒請教育部鄭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/1.wav",
        "text": "委員好還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/2.wav",
        "text": "國教署彭署長先請教部長今天那麼多委員提出版本大概是集中在第4條第7條第5條第十一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/3.wav",
        "text": "很多委員關心這個部分本席剛才聽到你說了行政院有版本嗎行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/4.wav",
        "text": "未來會不會有版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/5.wav",
        "text": "會我們在努力但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/6.wav",
        "text": "是現在就要審查了不知道今天會不會進入逐條討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/7.wav",
        "text": "本席是希望如果行政院有規劃或是教育部有規劃有相對應的版本能夠整合目前所有委員所提的版本本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/8.wav",
        "text": "本席建議你們要儘快送到立法院併案審查這部分可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/9.wav",
        "text": "是的我們現在就朝這個目標朝委員關心的方向在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/10.wav",
        "text": "教育部的立場如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/11.wav",
        "text": "目前我們也朝這個方向在修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/12.wav",
        "text": "所以會把委員的版本納入行政院院版納入教育部的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/13.wav",
        "text": "另外部長你來自高雄我們都是老朋友了對高雄的教育環境也非常重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/14.wav",
        "text": "你也知道本席的選區在高雄市的北邊是原來的縣區屬於非都會區在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/15.wav",
        "text": "的選區這8區當中有五十幾所中小學每一所學校本席都非常清楚了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/16.wav",
        "text": "席大概每隔一兩個禮拜就會花很多時間到每所學校關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/17.wav",
        "text": "對學校的各項事務不管是體育設施或者校園環境改善大家一起進行座談\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/18.wav",
        "text": "去了解他們的需求他們也會提報計畫由高雄市教育局送到體育署或者國教署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/19.wav",
        "text": "然後本席就立即安排到學校去看本席是很專業的因為本席已經看了13年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/20.wav",
        "text": "席都有告訴校長這個部分你們要多請幾家建築師設計並且做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/21.wav",
        "text": "更合理的預算分配這些本席都有提示他們\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/22.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會拜託彭署長跟鄭署長他們都有全力協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/23.wav",
        "text": "最近上上個禮拜我又去看了大概七八所學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/24.wav",
        "text": "原縣區跟原市區的教育資源當然相對差了很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/25.wav",
        "text": "這五十幾所過去是非都會區學校的軟硬體建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/26.wav",
        "text": "不管是體育設施也好跑道也好或者是教學環境的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/27.wav",
        "text": "兩位署長也能夠大力協助\n我等你的答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/28.wav",
        "text": "你說好就好了你說好委員所關心的我們一定會努力來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154318/29.wav",
        "text": "你說好我就不用回答那麼多了你看我都很準時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/0.wav",
        "text": "主席各位大家午安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/1.wav",
        "text": "好請何部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/2.wav",
        "text": "部長聽了你一個早上的答詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/3.wav",
        "text": "對於大家關心的直聘問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/4.wav",
        "text": "你第一個觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/5.wav",
        "text": "是印度沒有所謂國對國直聘的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/6.wav",
        "text": "你是這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/7.wav",
        "text": "他們確實是沒有這樣的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/8.wav",
        "text": "那日本韓國是什麼模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/9.wav",
        "text": "你回答我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/10.wav",
        "text": "日本跟韓國他們有直聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/11.wav",
        "text": "日本韓國跟印度之間就是直聘模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/12.wav",
        "text": "你不要再講印度沒有G to G的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/13.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/14.wav",
        "text": "日本跟韓國就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/15.wav",
        "text": "然後今天一早委員問的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/16.wav",
        "text": "你說直聘要看國家有沒有能力是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/17.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/18.wav",
        "text": "因為對於我們是全新的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/19.wav",
        "text": "不是看國家有沒有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/20.wav",
        "text": "而是看政府有沒有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/21.wav",
        "text": "然後你們所持的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/22.wav",
        "text": "還有國內仲介能力很強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/23.wav",
        "text": "你回答立委質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/24.wav",
        "text": "時說我們的直聘要以國內直聘先行續聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/25.wav",
        "text": "這個大家都知道我們不再談這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/26.wav",
        "text": "但你說國內的仲介能力很強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/27.wav",
        "text": "我國過去面對4個國家都是全部放給仲介"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/28.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/29.wav",
        "text": "高額的抵債勞務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/30.wav",
        "text": "訓練不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/31.wav",
        "text": "然後是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/32.wav",
        "text": "買工費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/33.wav",
        "text": "仲介費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/34.wav",
        "text": "這些都涉及人口販運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/35.wav",
        "text": "和強迫勞動所以在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/36.wav",
        "text": "家社會各個領域大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/37.wav",
        "text": "都在期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/38.wav",
        "text": "開放印度移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/39.wav",
        "text": "能不能有新的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/40.wav",
        "text": "你們一直告訴我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/41.wav",
        "text": "這次要採雙軌制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/42.wav",
        "text": "仲介加G to G的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/43.wav",
        "text": "但我們在這裡發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/44.wav",
        "text": "如果勞動部都不準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/45.wav",
        "text": "而且政府又不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/46.wav",
        "text": "─不是不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/47.wav",
        "text": "喔那麼名義上的雙軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/48.wav",
        "text": "實際上運作下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/49.wav",
        "text": "會只剩下單軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/50.wav",
        "text": "韓國引進了幾個國家的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/51.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣全部引進幾個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/52.wav",
        "text": "臺灣有幾個國家的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/53.wav",
        "text": "現在是四個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/54.wav",
        "text": "印度還沒開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/55.wav",
        "text": "OK我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/56.wav",
        "text": "那你知道韓國引進移工的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/57.wav",
        "text": "有多少數量嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/58.wav",
        "text": "17個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/59.wav",
        "text": "而我們現在只談一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/60.wav",
        "text": "國對國的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/61.wav",
        "text": "只要求一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/62.wav",
        "text": "但你連一個都不願意好好地做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/63.wav",
        "text": "國家不願意扛起這個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/64.wav",
        "text": "這不是涉及國家有沒有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/65.wav",
        "text": "而是政府無能啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/66.wav",
        "text": "我們直接看韓國模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/67.wav",
        "text": "它能夠運作得起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/68.wav",
        "text": "而且數量這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/69.wav",
        "text": "關鍵是他們有SPAS系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/70.wav",
        "text": "你知道吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/71.wav",
        "text": "現在是不是AI時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/72.wav",
        "text": "大數據時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/73.wav",
        "text": "人工智慧管理的時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/74.wav",
        "text": "部長是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/75.wav",
        "text": "但你連這種系統都做不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/76.wav",
        "text": "也不願意做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/77.wav",
        "text": "你又說臺灣是AI大國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/78.wav",
        "text": "整個e化做得多好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/79.wav",
        "text": "這個SPAS系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/80.wav",
        "text": "把所有移工相關部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/81.wav",
        "text": "串聯起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/82.wav",
        "text": "就是從來都不願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/83.wav",
        "text": "串連起整個系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/84.wav",
        "text": "還包括入出國業務許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/85.wav",
        "text": "統統整合在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/86.wav",
        "text": "而且公開透明上網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/87.wav",
        "text": "雇主可以上去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/88.wav",
        "text": "移工也可以上去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/89.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以使用這個系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/90.wav",
        "text": "還包括簽證等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/91.wav",
        "text": "這樣整合在一起很困難嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/92.wav",
        "text": "這個系統會困難嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/93.wav",
        "text": "部長你回答看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/94.wav",
        "text": "韓國的SPAS系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/95.wav",
        "text": "對臺灣來講困不困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/96.wav",
        "text": "委員我現在就是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/97.wav",
        "text": "勞政友善化的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/98.wav",
        "text": "現在開始檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/99.wav",
        "text": "把所有系統都整合在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/100.wav",
        "text": "然後減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/101.wav",
        "text": "你們現在要做什麼系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/102.wav",
        "text": "串聯起各部會的系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/103.wav",
        "text": "呢我現在正在努力這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/104.wav",
        "text": "委員你要努力多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/105.wav",
        "text": "要多少時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/106.wav",
        "text": "我希望年底前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/107.wav",
        "text": "能夠看到這個系統出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/108.wav",
        "text": "跟韓國SPAS一樣的系統可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/109.wav",
        "text": "我不能保證一定跟韓國一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/110.wav",
        "text": "署長你有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/111.wav",
        "text": "我們現在其實分兩個方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/112.wav",
        "text": "第一關於跟印度之間的直聘系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/113.wav",
        "text": "我們現在正在參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/114.wav",
        "text": "韓國的SPAS系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/115.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們就是會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/116.wav",
        "text": "按照委員所提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/117.wav",
        "text": "的把跨部門資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/118.wav",
        "text": "韓國是從沒有經驗開始做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/119.wav",
        "text": "欸從一開始開放移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/120.wav",
        "text": "就做這種系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/121.wav",
        "text": "做這種制度做這種管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/122.wav",
        "text": "而我們已經幾十年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/123.wav",
        "text": "我們需要什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/124.wav",
        "text": "哪裡需要整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/125.wav",
        "text": "我們還會不知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/126.wav",
        "text": "心而不是沒有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/127.wav",
        "text": "政府退位不願意管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/128.wav",
        "text": "你剛才講到仲介能力很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/129.wav",
        "text": "署長我今天講SPAS系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/130.wav",
        "text": "年底以前做不做得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/131.wav",
        "text": "我們來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/132.wav",
        "text": "好第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/133.wav",
        "text": "你說臺灣的仲介服務很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/134.wav",
        "text": "能力很強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/135.wav",
        "text": "你知道你們的仲介評鑑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/136.wav",
        "text": "優良仲介比例大概有多高嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/137.wav",
        "text": "你們去年11月發布的新聞稿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/138.wav",
        "text": "A級的有64.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/139.wav",
        "text": "B級的有30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/140.wav",
        "text": "所以94%的仲介"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/141.wav",
        "text": "你們都評定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/142.wav",
        "text": "合格的優良仲介"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/143.wav",
        "text": "你知道2016年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/144.wav",
        "text": "我們修了一個就業服務法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/145.wav",
        "text": "三年免出境一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/146.wav",
        "text": "仲介沒辦法再跨國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/147.wav",
        "text": "收取不當的仲介費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/148.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法再剝削這些移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/149.wav",
        "text": "臺灣境內直接要付買工費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/150.wav",
        "text": "而且大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/151.wav",
        "text": "買工費是一定要付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/152.wav",
        "text": "大家都要付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/153.wav",
        "text": "除非那10%的直聘續聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/154.wav",
        "text": "部長你知道買工費的行情是多少錢嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/155.wav",
        "text": "一個移工要繼續在臺灣續聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/156.wav",
        "text": "要付多少買工費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/157.wav",
        "text": "委員當然仲介一定有良莠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/158.wav",
        "text": "它一定有不好的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/159.wav",
        "text": "這是違法的喔這不是良莠喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/160.wav",
        "text": "每一家都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/161.wav",
        "text": "每家仲介都違法在收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/162.wav",
        "text": "買工費在臺灣發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/163.wav",
        "text": "要付多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/164.wav",
        "text": "買工費在我們這邊是非法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/165.wav",
        "text": "本來就違法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/166.wav",
        "text": "你們從以前到現在一年取締多少件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/167.wav",
        "text": "我問你非法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/168.wav",
        "text": "現在七十幾萬每個人續聘的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/169.wav",
        "text": "你才裁罰幾件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/170.wav",
        "text": "八件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/171.wav",
        "text": "這代表什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/172.wav",
        "text": "仲介服務很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/173.wav",
        "text": "他們幹這種違法的勾當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/174.wav",
        "text": "你們的評鑑還是94%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/175.wav",
        "text": "都是合格的優良的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/176.wav",
        "text": "而幹非法的事都還是A級的B級的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/177.wav",
        "text": "委員我可以跟你報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/178.wav",
        "text": "有1,775家仲介"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/179.wav",
        "text": "連續兩年評鑑A級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/180.wav",
        "text": "的只有478家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/181.wav",
        "text": "好啦這478家有沒有收買工費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/182.wav",
        "text": "你敢保證絕對沒有收買工費嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/183.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你我保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/184.wav",
        "text": "絕對有收買工費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/185.wav",
        "text": "委員你可以跟我檢舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/186.wav",
        "text": "你不要講檢舉這種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/187.wav",
        "text": "你不負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/188.wav",
        "text": "你們政府不願意管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/189.wav",
        "text": "放任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/190.wav",
        "text": "然後你叫立委跟你檢舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/191.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/192.wav",
        "text": "政府這麼好做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/193.wav",
        "text": "叫立委來檢舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/194.wav",
        "text": "我要你政府幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/195.wav",
        "text": "這樣子當政府這麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/196.wav",
        "text": "現在RBA的移工就業零付費原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/197.wav",
        "text": "雇主自己去負擔買工費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/198.wav",
        "text": "很多大企業都這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/199.wav",
        "text": "了否則整個RBA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/200.wav",
        "text": "整個國際形象就壞掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/201.wav",
        "text": "你這個要先行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/202.wav",
        "text": "你們要不要做這個RBA的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/203.wav",
        "text": "移工零付費原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/204.wav",
        "text": "要不要從這裡開始試辦起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/205.wav",
        "text": "零付費原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/206.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能試辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/207.wav",
        "text": "國對國引進也不可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/208.wav",
        "text": "試辦100人的規模"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/209.wav",
        "text": "SPAS系統要到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/210.wav",
        "text": "都雇主自己去負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/211.wav",
        "text": "你也要表示一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/212.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/213.wav",
        "text": "啊我們都一直在講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/214.wav",
        "text": "高額的抵債勞務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/215.wav",
        "text": "人口販運強迫勞動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/216.wav",
        "text": "過去政府一直都退位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/217.wav",
        "text": "不願意管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/218.wav",
        "text": "然後就全部交給仲介"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/219.wav",
        "text": "然後在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/220.wav",
        "text": "今天不會要求你這個試辦計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/221.wav",
        "text": "你的SPAS很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/222.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼運作也很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/223.wav",
        "text": "人家韓國成立了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/224.wav",
        "text": "韓國產業人力公團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/225.wav",
        "text": "你知道的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/226.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/227.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/228.wav",
        "text": "公團要做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/229.wav",
        "text": "這個是行政法人吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/230.wav",
        "text": "對它是行政法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/231.wav",
        "text": "行政法人代表國家公權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/232.wav",
        "text": "他們扛起什麼責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/233.wav",
        "text": "韓國的國家扛起了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/234.wav",
        "text": "負責選工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/235.wav",
        "text": "負起技能訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/236.wav",
        "text": "負起居留服務等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/237.wav",
        "text": "可以受理雇主委託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/238.wav",
        "text": "代向外籍勞工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/239.wav",
        "text": "簽訂勞動契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/240.wav",
        "text": "這就是國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/241.wav",
        "text": "而我們的國家做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/242.wav",
        "text": "我們的國家做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/243.wav",
        "text": "委員我也很期待能這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/244.wav",
        "text": "對所以你要這裡開始試驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/245.wav",
        "text": "但我要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/246.wav",
        "text": "你從印度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/247.wav",
        "text": "全立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/248.wav",
        "text": "包括衛環委員會的委員到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/249.wav",
        "text": "都沒有苛責你過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/250.wav",
        "text": "也沒有要求過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/251.wav",
        "text": "那四個國家的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/252.wav",
        "text": "大家對你們的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/253.wav",
        "text": "只不過是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/254.wav",
        "text": "從現在印度模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/255.wav",
        "text": "試辦計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/256.wav",
        "text": "一個國家100個人開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/257.wav",
        "text": "我們來run出這一套運作的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/258.wav",
        "text": "所以現在只是要求你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/259.wav",
        "text": "這100個移工的引進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/260.wav",
        "text": "我們來找出一個新的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/261.wav",
        "text": "我們把過去強迫勞動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/262.wav",
        "text": "高額抵債勞務的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/263.wav",
        "text": "國家扛起責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/264.wav",
        "text": "不是只有仲介有責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/265.wav",
        "text": "仲介引進來的很多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/266.wav",
        "text": "沒有專業訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/267.wav",
        "text": "沒有技能訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/268.wav",
        "text": "沒有服務訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/269.wav",
        "text": "很多雇主也不滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/270.wav",
        "text": "啊這個服務也不專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/271.wav",
        "text": "啊可是人家韓國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/272.wav",
        "text": "負責選工技能訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/273.wav",
        "text": "居留服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/274.wav",
        "text": "還可以幫忙簽訂勞動契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/275.wav",
        "text": "再加上他們的SPAS系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/276.wav",
        "text": "我們講這才像是一個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/277.wav",
        "text": "日本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/278.wav",
        "text": "用什麼模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/279.wav",
        "text": "日本國家做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/280.wav",
        "text": "部長日本引進印度勞工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/281.wav",
        "text": "他們跟NSDC引進執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/282.wav",
        "text": "而且大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/283.wav",
        "text": "日本也是用一個公法人在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/284.wav",
        "text": "日本是國家公法人在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/285.wav",
        "text": "他們根本沒有在討論仲介費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/286.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有這一種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/287.wav",
        "text": "\n而我現在看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/288.wav",
        "text": "你們的開會會議紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/289.wav",
        "text": "外交部駐印度代表處說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/290.wav",
        "text": "本處尊重國內單位意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/291.wav",
        "text": "倘若初期採取國家政府直聘方式引進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/292.wav",
        "text": "他們願意協助瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/293.wav",
        "text": "主責機構的窗口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/294.wav",
        "text": "願意承擔起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/295.wav",
        "text": "並依照勞動部的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/296.wav",
        "text": "跟印方洽談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/297.wav",
        "text": "唯考量臺印之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/298.wav",
        "text": "彼此能見度不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/299.wav",
        "text": "國內對印度的刻板印象嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/300.wav",
        "text": "外交部願意扛起這個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/301.wav",
        "text": "它說建議初期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/302.wav",
        "text": "可以透過採取直聘方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/303.wav",
        "text": "引進優質印度移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/304.wav",
        "text": "讓臺灣社會更加熟悉印度移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/305.wav",
        "text": "外交部下一段說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/306.wav",
        "text": "未來再視市場需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/307.wav",
        "text": "研議採取多元引進方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/308.wav",
        "text": "以確保雇主跟勞工權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/309.wav",
        "text": "都受到保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/310.wav",
        "text": "外交部都直接建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/311.wav",
        "text": "初期國對國引進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/312.wav",
        "text": "外交部還有另外一點建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/313.wav",
        "text": "我唸給你聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/314.wav",
        "text": "到印度方面直聘的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/315.wav",
        "text": "除了NSDC以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/316.wav",
        "text": "還有一種是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/317.wav",
        "text": "由印度政府指定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/318.wav",
        "text": "所以並不是印度沒有國對國的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/319.wav",
        "text": "都不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/320.wav",
        "text": "所以這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/321.wav",
        "text": "我們來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/322.wav",
        "text": "只有政府要不要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/323.wav",
        "text": "有沒有要扛起責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/324.wav",
        "text": "就只是這種態度而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/325.wav",
        "text": "而不是不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/326.wav",
        "text": "沒有印度方面拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/327.wav",
        "text": "沒有這一種事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/328.wav",
        "text": "我自己個人很怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/329.wav",
        "text": "最後會變成單軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/330.wav",
        "text": "跟以前一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/331.wav",
        "text": "那就落入了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/332.wav",
        "text": "嘴巴講出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/333.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是有很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/334.wav",
        "text": "已經在那裡先布局了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/335.wav",
        "text": "有人這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/336.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得不一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/337.wav",
        "text": "嘛政府應該要採取魄力和行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154319/338.wav",
        "text": "來證明國家願意扛起這個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/0.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席麻煩請勞動部部長及發展署蔡署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好就今天臺印雙方引進勞工的合作備忘錄的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/2.wav",
        "text": "首先我想要請教的就是本委員會是採逐條審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/3.wav",
        "text": "審查的意見有任何一個條文如果沒有通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/4.wav",
        "text": "這個MOU就會全部退回勞動部不予查照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/5.wav",
        "text": "可是事實上MOU是外交部代簽的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/6.wav",
        "text": "勞動部你們應該都有全程的主導跟掌控吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/7.wav",
        "text": "應該有吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/8.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/9.wav",
        "text": "好蔡署長我要請教這個MOU的內容有很多的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/10.wav",
        "text": "我就先來舉個例子給你們看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/11.wav",
        "text": "另勞工醫療費用應由健康保險及意外保險負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/12.wav",
        "text": "勞工無力負擔時應由印度方協助解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/13.wav",
        "text": "這裡的醫療費用如果涉及懷孕生產是不是也由印度政府來協助解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/14.wav",
        "text": "對因為目前這個條約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/15.wav",
        "text": "我就確認這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/16.wav",
        "text": "例如印尼有沒有協助他們的外籍勞工來支付醫療費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/17.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告目前因為我們跟印尼沒有這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/18.wav",
        "text": "但是在雙邊會議當中我們都有提出應該由他們來負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/19.wav",
        "text": "所以印尼我們沒有簽但是印度有這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/20.wav",
        "text": "對印尼的條文沒有特別好謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/21.wav",
        "text": "謝再來我們看第二個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/22.wav",
        "text": "在第10條規定無證的失聯印度勞工的收容及遣送由我方負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/23.wav",
        "text": "無證的勞工應支付收容遣返及醫療費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/24.wav",
        "text": "印度方應協助促進清償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/25.wav",
        "text": "我要請教目前印尼外籍勞工逃逸後遣送回國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/26.wav",
        "text": "費用是由誰負擔是不是原雇主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/27.wav",
        "text": "為什麼印度的外籍勞工就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/28.wav",
        "text": "由他們的政府來協助解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/29.wav",
        "text": "印尼政府就可以不必協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/30.wav",
        "text": "這就是差別嘛條文有沒有載就有這種差別啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/31.wav",
        "text": "好確實那我們就繼續沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/32.wav",
        "text": "有沒有規範在就服法的子法或行政命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/33.wav",
        "text": "對遣返費用目前在就服法有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/34.wav",
        "text": "好如果有的話將來印度勞工逃逸的遣返"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/35.wav",
        "text": "為什麼他們政府就要協助而印尼不用呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/36.wav",
        "text": "這樣有沒有公平性的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/37.wav",
        "text": "目前如果是屬於非法移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/38.wav",
        "text": "要負的這個費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/39.wav",
        "text": "如果他無法清償的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/40.wav",
        "text": "我們就是希望是由來源國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/41.wav",
        "text": "負擔這樣的一個責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/42.wav",
        "text": "你是指印度還是全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/43.wav",
        "text": "我們跟其他四個來源國都要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/44.wav",
        "text": "在雙邊都要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/45.wav",
        "text": "在MOU的簽署就有差別嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/46.wav",
        "text": "有沒有希望跟你有沒有寫上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/47.wav",
        "text": "那就不一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/48.wav",
        "text": "好再來第三個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/49.wav",
        "text": "上次4月25日的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/50.wav",
        "text": "本席已經有質詢過勞動部變相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/51.wav",
        "text": "我這樣講是有依據的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/52.wav",
        "text": "當然你們不會寫得這麼明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/53.wav",
        "text": "但是有一些政策就是變相的鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/54.wav",
        "text": "其實已經對臺灣這些相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/55.wav",
        "text": "因為我們這些規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/56.wav",
        "text": "其實都在製造他們國內的社會問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/57.wav",
        "text": "因為印尼主要的信仰是伊斯蘭教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/58.wav",
        "text": "所以他們對於婚前性行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/59.wav",
        "text": "跟婚外情是零容忍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/60.wav",
        "text": "我們再看一下他們目前的刑法規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/61.wav",
        "text": "和婚外情的對象同居"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/62.wav",
        "text": "最高可求處一年有期徒刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/63.wav",
        "text": "12月6日他們已經修法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/64.wav",
        "text": "將從現行的一年有期徒刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/65.wav",
        "text": "改成最高五年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/66.wav",
        "text": "踏進印尼境內的外籍人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/67.wav",
        "text": "MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/68.wav",
        "text": "的收容遣返"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/69.wav",
        "text": "醫療（包含生產）的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/70.wav",
        "text": "在臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/71.wav",
        "text": "逃逸非法生小孩外籍勞工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/72.wav",
        "text": "是不分國籍全體適用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/73.wav",
        "text": "跟印方簽署的MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/74.wav",
        "text": "子法及行政命令是有牴觸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/75.wav",
        "text": "的所以本席想確認的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/76.wav",
        "text": "你們勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/77.wav",
        "text": "非法的逃逸外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/78.wav",
        "text": "在臺灣生小孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/79.wav",
        "text": "唯獨不鼓勵也不支持印度的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/80.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/81.wav",
        "text": "我就是想要確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/82.wav",
        "text": "因為MOU的簽署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/83.wav",
        "text": "就不同嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/84.wav",
        "text": "那個規定是規範合法移工的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/85.wav",
        "text": "部長但是你可能有所不知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/86.wav",
        "text": "我當然知道你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/87.wav",
        "text": "是補助合法的勞工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/88.wav",
        "text": "但是你們敢不敢跟我保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/89.wav",
        "text": "這當中沒有把非法的洗白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/90.wav",
        "text": "然後撤掉他們逃逸的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/91.wav",
        "text": "你敢說這一件都沒有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/92.wav",
        "text": "我今天敢在這裡講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/93.wav",
        "text": "所以我說部長你不知道啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/94.wav",
        "text": "這個你可以回頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/95.wav",
        "text": "好好地去瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/96.wav",
        "text": "實際的狀況是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/97.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有這種洗白的案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/98.wav",
        "text": "我們再來瞭解看看好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/99.wav",
        "text": "對請你們好好地去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/100.wav",
        "text": "我今天講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/101.wav",
        "text": "我們就有所本好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/102.wav",
        "text": "也做這樣的提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/103.wav",
        "text": "喔所以這就是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/104.wav",
        "text": "我要問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/105.wav",
        "text": "如果這個MOU退回之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/106.wav",
        "text": "勞動部有沒有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/107.wav",
        "text": "跟印尼重啟談判MOU的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/108.wav",
        "text": "如果再重新簽署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/109.wav",
        "text": "人家跟我們會再重啟談判嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/110.wav",
        "text": "很難嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/111.wav",
        "text": "所以這就是為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/112.wav",
        "text": "國民平等待遇原則下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/113.wav",
        "text": "不能有不同國家的差別待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/114.wav",
        "text": "你們簽署這個MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/115.wav",
        "text": "有很多原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/116.wav",
        "text": "跟其他國家不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/117.wav",
        "text": "那這裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/118.wav",
        "text": "會不會涉及修法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/119.wav",
        "text": "國法律規定的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/120.wav",
        "text": "這都是要注意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/121.wav",
        "text": "因為MOU是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/122.wav",
        "text": "基本原則的備忘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/123.wav",
        "text": "不是說我們想要重啟談判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/124.wav",
        "text": "就可以隨時重啟的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/125.wav",
        "text": "因為規範的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/126.wav",
        "text": "基本原則的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/127.wav",
        "text": "所以原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/128.wav",
        "text": "都沒有辦法堅持的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/129.wav",
        "text": "國格尊嚴的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/130.wav",
        "text": "這是相當嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/131.wav",
        "text": "所以希望勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/132.wav",
        "text": "可以謹慎處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/133.wav",
        "text": "勞動部跟外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/134.wav",
        "text": "都有發新聞稿道歉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/135.wav",
        "text": "目前臺印雙方合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/136.wav",
        "text": "莫迪總理的連任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/137.wav",
        "text": "賴總統也親自恭賀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/138.wav",
        "text": "公開善意的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/139.wav",
        "text": "好好提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/140.wav",
        "text": "我真的不希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/141.wav",
        "text": "一個MOU"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/142.wav",
        "text": "還有重啟談判的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/143.wav",
        "text": "所以一定要支持這個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/144.wav",
        "text": "我們今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/145.wav",
        "text": "就是要特別提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/146.wav",
        "text": "不同國有不同制的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/147.wav",
        "text": "真的是一發不可收拾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/148.wav",
        "text": "千萬千萬不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/149.wav",
        "text": "順了姑意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/150.wav",
        "text": "逆了嫂意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/151.wav",
        "text": "順了印尼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/152.wav",
        "text": "也不要順了國意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/153.wav",
        "text": "逆了民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/154.wav",
        "text": "謝謝大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/155.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/156.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/157.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154320/158.wav",
        "text": "劉建國委員質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/0.wav",
        "text": "請顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/2.wav",
        "text": "我向你請教國軍改革的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/3.wav",
        "text": "後來我陸續看到我們外交及國防委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/4.wav",
        "text": "有很多委員都在關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/5.wav",
        "text": "表示聽說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/6.wav",
        "text": "你也有聽到相關的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/7.wav",
        "text": "請問部長後續是否有進行追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/8.wav",
        "text": "如何改善並落實這個改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/9.wav",
        "text": "了在官兵休假離營前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/10.wav",
        "text": "要完成相關的安全宣導之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/11.wav",
        "text": "休假的官兵遇到狀況才要主動回報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/12.wav",
        "text": "如果有任何的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/13.wav",
        "text": "倘若委員有任何這方面的訊息給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/14.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會去加以了解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/15.wav",
        "text": "遇到狀況才需要回報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/16.wav",
        "text": "這個狀況有沒有什麼樣的定義呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/17.wav",
        "text": "有時候可能是定義不清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/18.wav",
        "text": "所謂的遇到狀況當然就是他遇到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/19.wav",
        "text": "有需要協助的時候才需要回報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/20.wav",
        "text": "因為回報是為了讓我們能夠協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/21.wav",
        "text": "協助他不然我們並不清楚他的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/22.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望這樣的改革能夠繼續落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/23.wav",
        "text": "要採用一個新的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/24.wav",
        "text": "我看了媒體的報導他們下了一些標題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/25.wav",
        "text": "有些媒體說漢光演習不演了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/26.wav",
        "text": "漢光演習來真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/27.wav",
        "text": "展示的形式改以無劇本去中心化的方式進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/28.wav",
        "text": "我看到國防部的說法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/29.wav",
        "text": "這樣會比較貼近我們實兵的操演"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/30.wav",
        "text": "是不是就與我們取消刺槍術取消踢正步一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/31.wav",
        "text": "我們希望整體國軍可以朝向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/32.wav",
        "text": "更去除形式主義化實戰訓練化的方式來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/33.wav",
        "text": "我們的想法是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/34.wav",
        "text": "對我們主要的目的是驗證他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/35.wav",
        "text": "以及他們是不是能夠執行聯合作戰計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/36.wav",
        "text": "所謂的無劇本並不是漫天的方式可以下令做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/37.wav",
        "text": "它還是要由統裁部依照敵可能行動來下一個想定的主軸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/38.wav",
        "text": "在這個主軸之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/39.wav",
        "text": "各級的指揮官主管就要按照他的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/40.wav",
        "text": "的照劇本這樣操"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/41.wav",
        "text": "這些科目的操演"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/42.wav",
        "text": "所謂的去中心化過去都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/43.wav",
        "text": "現在就是我們要假設這個指管系統可能會斷掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/44.wav",
        "text": "他就要知道上級的任務是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/45.wav",
        "text": "即使是沒有上面的指管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/46.wav",
        "text": "沒有上面的指揮下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/47.wav",
        "text": "他還是知道他應該要做的任務是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/48.wav",
        "text": "而且要結合教戰規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/49.wav",
        "text": "讓他能夠自行決策果斷執行他應該要完成的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/50.wav",
        "text": "雖然我沒有當過兵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/51.wav",
        "text": "但是我們都有很多家人當過兵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/52.wav",
        "text": "也聽過很多當兵的故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/53.wav",
        "text": "為什麼過去大家會害怕去中心化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/54.wav",
        "text": "每個層級的決策層會害怕萬一我決策了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/55.wav",
        "text": "如果怎麼樣了上級長官會不會責備我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/56.wav",
        "text": "或是最後會不會是我要扛責任等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/57.wav",
        "text": "也要給每一個決策層級充分的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/58.wav",
        "text": "讓他們能夠勇敢果斷的決策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/59.wav",
        "text": "這才是我們要達到實際操演的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/60.wav",
        "text": "我們要逐步透過這樣的演習加以不斷的改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/61.wav",
        "text": "必須透過這樣的演練逐步的讓他們能夠理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/62.wav",
        "text": "而不是單純的一直等待上級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/63.wav",
        "text": "下面的人才能夠進行作戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/64.wav",
        "text": "我想在第一次演練的時候一定會有一些狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/65.wav",
        "text": "但是我們不斷透過這樣的演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/66.wav",
        "text": "很重要的一部分也包括了全民防衛動員能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/67.wav",
        "text": "我們賴清德總統也成立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/68.wav",
        "text": "但是我們的基層民防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/69.wav",
        "text": "我們有每年的民防常訓我每年都會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/70.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝像我們上校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/71.wav",
        "text": "都會在我們的常訓課程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/72.wav",
        "text": "幫我們上全民國防的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/73.wav",
        "text": "但是國防部的全動署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/74.wav",
        "text": "以及相關的跨部會單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/75.wav",
        "text": "能夠有一個協調的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/76.wav",
        "text": "倘若我們的全民防衛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/77.wav",
        "text": "在平時該如何有一個更好的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/78.wav",
        "text": "全動署只是作為一個執行秘書的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/79.wav",
        "text": "如果是就整個跨部會的全社會防衛韌性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/80.wav",
        "text": "總統現在也成立了一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/81.wav",
        "text": "另外在行政院也有政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/82.wav",
        "text": "做跨部會的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/83.wav",
        "text": "我的理解是我在國安會的期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/84.wav",
        "text": "國安會也要負責做這方面的協調工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/85.wav",
        "text": "而國防部作為配合全社會防衛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/86.wav",
        "text": "韌性建構裡面的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/87.wav",
        "text": "因為現在整個韌性的建構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/88.wav",
        "text": "支持我們的戰力是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/89.wav",
        "text": "所以全社會防衛韌性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/90.wav",
        "text": "的義警義消等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/91.wav",
        "text": "關鍵基礎設施的防護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/92.wav",
        "text": "譬如行政院有國土辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/93.wav",
        "text": "各目的事業主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/94.wav",
        "text": "像是油水電等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/95.wav",
        "text": "可能也會遭受一些攻擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/96.wav",
        "text": "所以也是要進行一些推演"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/97.wav",
        "text": "其實打仗不是單純"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/98.wav",
        "text": "只靠國軍而是整個跨部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/99.wav",
        "text": "都要偕同完成的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/100.wav",
        "text": "是我們非常樂見國軍不斷的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/101.wav",
        "text": "關於全民防衛的相關基層組織單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/102.wav",
        "text": "也希望國防部可以協助其他部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154321/103.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請鍾佳濱委員上臺質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/0.wav",
        "text": "請部長好請部長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/1.wav",
        "text": "因為我只有4分鐘所以我就很快地說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/2.wav",
        "text": "有一些問題我等一下提出再麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/3.wav",
        "text": "貴部能夠給我一些資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/4.wav",
        "text": "我研讀之後會再提出一些問題或請教的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/5.wav",
        "text": "因為這段時間有一些校園內學生受害者的家屬會找我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/6.wav",
        "text": "與偏差行為的件數高達2萬6,442件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/7.wav",
        "text": "比2022年多出了1萬件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/8.wav",
        "text": "的四個就有一個覺得在校園內不安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/9.wav",
        "text": "所以這應該是我們現在開始要去注意的一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/10.wav",
        "text": "我們有發現一個問題就是追訴少年犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/11.wav",
        "text": "雖然是一個重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/12.wav",
        "text": "但是更重要的是要怎麼樣修補校園安全網還有預防暴力的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/13.wav",
        "text": "所以其實這段時間我一直請我的助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/14.wav",
        "text": "去瞭解我們要著重在如何強化校園安全這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/15.wav",
        "text": "然後校園的輔導體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/16.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣協助這些有問題的人回歸校園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/17.wav",
        "text": "還有輔導的老師他有沒有足夠的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/18.wav",
        "text": "去面對這群更生的少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/19.wav",
        "text": "在少觀所的少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/20.wav",
        "text": "少觀所會通報原就讀校園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/21.wav",
        "text": "請問如果少年轉學了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/22.wav",
        "text": "原就讀的學校會不會通知下一個學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/23.wav",
        "text": "就我們的行政流程是一定會通知的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/24.wav",
        "text": "那有規範嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/25.wav",
        "text": "有的話可不可以給我一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/26.wav",
        "text": "讓我研讀一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/27.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/28.wav",
        "text": "會後我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/29.wav",
        "text": "因為我等一下還有一些東西要麻煩你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/30.wav",
        "text": "就一起補給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/31.wav",
        "text": "就是他有沒有再通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/32.wav",
        "text": "因為我有點擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/33.wav",
        "text": "會不會他後面轉學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/34.wav",
        "text": "然後就發生中斷的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/35.wav",
        "text": "我會比較擔心這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/36.wav",
        "text": "因為現在教育部雖然有一個學生輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/37.wav",
        "text": "但是學生輔導法不適用於矯正學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/38.wav",
        "text": "我想部長一定很清楚這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/39.wav",
        "text": "及教育實施通則裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/40.wav",
        "text": "出校後的學生要通知地方的教育行政機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/41.wav",
        "text": "卻沒有相關足夠的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/42.wav",
        "text": "發生一些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/43.wav",
        "text": "給我一個比較具體的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/44.wav",
        "text": "在割喉案的漏洞跟缺失是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/45.wav",
        "text": "這個資料再麻煩你們請同仁把它寄過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/46.wav",
        "text": "我就簡單地帶過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/47.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/48.wav",
        "text": "還是說它不及於少觀所出來的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/49.wav",
        "text": "有問題的少年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/50.wav",
        "text": "4月頒布的過渡性教育措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/51.wav",
        "text": "入班的具體措施內容是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/52.wav",
        "text": "這部分上個月在我們司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/53.wav",
        "text": "法制委員會的報告沒有呈現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/54.wav",
        "text": "現在又過了一個月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/55.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有一個執行的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/56.wav",
        "text": "或是需要其他單位的整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/57.wav",
        "text": "加強輔導機制上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/58.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣加強優先輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/59.wav",
        "text": "及專業輔導人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/60.wav",
        "text": "等等是否應包括矯正輔導的專業師資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/61.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就麻煩提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/62.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得這一塊是我目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/63.wav",
        "text": "研究校園安全的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/64.wav",
        "text": "不好意思我再浪費大家一點點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/65.wav",
        "text": "還有就是三級輔導機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/66.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣協助這一類的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/67.wav",
        "text": "除了特教的教師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/68.wav",
        "text": "還有怎麼樣強化輔導師資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/69.wav",
        "text": "這個也一併給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/70.wav",
        "text": "最後最後10秒鐘我想提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/71.wav",
        "text": "因為新北割喉案被害者家屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/72.wav",
        "text": "其實有來找我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/73.wav",
        "text": "這段時間我跟他們談滿多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/74.wav",
        "text": "的我真的覺得大家很多都是為人父為人母"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/75.wav",
        "text": "我們一定很重視小孩子在學校的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/76.wav",
        "text": "我要提一個就是家屬當時有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/77.wav",
        "text": "公開發表四項呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/78.wav",
        "text": "其中有一個提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/79.wav",
        "text": "全面檢視校園安全及學生輔導制度的漏洞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/80.wav",
        "text": "真的不要等到問題發生了再回過頭來補救"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/81.wav",
        "text": "是不是我們在一開始就能夠把他輔導好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/82.wav",
        "text": "讓問題不會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/83.wav",
        "text": "以上是我提出的一些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/84.wav",
        "text": "再麻煩部長能夠兩個月內把資料都補給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/85.wav",
        "text": "我研究之後再來跟大家討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/86.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/87.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請部長給吳宗憲委員之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/88.wav",
        "text": "也送一份給本席辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154322/89.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/0.wav",
        "text": "主席在場的委員先進列席的政府機關首長官員會場的工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/1.wav",
        "text": "有請顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/2.wav",
        "text": "請顧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/3.wav",
        "text": "可能需要空軍人員陪同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/4.wav",
        "text": "請空軍參謀長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/5.wav",
        "text": "部長過去您看過漢光演習嗎幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/6.wav",
        "text": "有沒有超過5次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/7.wav",
        "text": "2020年5月20號以來應該有幾次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/8.wav",
        "text": "我講的是過去啦現在是漢光40號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/9.wav",
        "text": "我當副縣長當了8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/10.wav",
        "text": "看的次數可能不下於你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/11.wav",
        "text": "過去我們屏東的恆春地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/12.wav",
        "text": "恆春半島地區有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/13.wav",
        "text": "有點半開玩笑的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/14.wav",
        "text": "他說漢光演習火力展示很好看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/15.wav",
        "text": "應該把它規劃成一個觀光資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/16.wav",
        "text": "招來觀光客"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/17.wav",
        "text": "尤其是在冬天落山風的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/18.wav",
        "text": "請漢光演習移到冬季落山風的地點來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/19.wav",
        "text": "我們可以讓觀光客來參觀漢光演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/20.wav",
        "text": "對於這樣的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/21.wav",
        "text": "您覺得有什麼地方怪怪的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/22.wav",
        "text": "我印象很深刻是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/23.wav",
        "text": "漢光演習時的火力展示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/24.wav",
        "text": "我們就在一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/25.wav",
        "text": "參觀臺上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/26.wav",
        "text": "這個火力的展示還滿威武的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/27.wav",
        "text": "但是很明顯的是一種展示性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/28.wav",
        "text": "質表演性質的一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/29.wav",
        "text": "對從漢光11號之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/30.wav",
        "text": "漢光演習在地方人士看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/31.wav",
        "text": "是一種火力展示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/32.wav",
        "text": "是一個秀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/33.wav",
        "text": "而不是一個實戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/34.wav",
        "text": "所以對這次部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/35.wav",
        "text": "指示要做實戰化的一個趨勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/36.wav",
        "text": "大家很肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/37.wav",
        "text": "我們有更務實的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/38.wav",
        "text": "請問一下部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/39.wav",
        "text": "過去共軍共機共艦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/40.wav",
        "text": "擾臺的航跡當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/41.wav",
        "text": "哪些地方比較常被騷擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/42.wav",
        "text": "哪些地方比較少被騷擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/43.wav",
        "text": "現在已經沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/44.wav",
        "text": "過去是越過中線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/45.wav",
        "text": "涵蓋我國跟菲律賓的防空識別區（ADIZ"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/46.wav",
        "text": "）這個部分過去他們比較少去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/47.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/48.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這樣的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/49.wav",
        "text": "你也曾負責過國安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/50.wav",
        "text": "因為容易跟菲律賓引起緊張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/51.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/52.wav",
        "text": "可是我們的ADIZ"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/53.wav",
        "text": "對但是靠巴士海峽這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/54.wav",
        "text": "過去比較少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/55.wav",
        "text": "我們西部的戰機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/56.wav",
        "text": "是不是會將戰力移轉到東部去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/57.wav",
        "text": "空軍要不要協助說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/58.wav",
        "text": "我們會分散式的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/59.wav",
        "text": "但是詳細的情況我想可能不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/60.wav",
        "text": "但是我們知道這個戰力移轉是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/61.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在屏東有一個戰略空軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/62.wav",
        "text": "就是六聯隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/63.wav",
        "text": "戰鬥機聯隊不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/64.wav",
        "text": "請問一下如果它的戰力保存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/65.wav",
        "text": "戰力轉進要到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/66.wav",
        "text": "可能會到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/67.wav",
        "text": "不太適宜講得太"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/68.wav",
        "text": "其實有沒有可能往其他的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/69.wav",
        "text": "譬如菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/70.wav",
        "text": "其實這不是沒有可能的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/71.wav",
        "text": "過去我們的C-130"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/72.wav",
        "text": "曾經去做過人道救援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/73.wav",
        "text": "飛到菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/74.wav",
        "text": "飛到更遠的國家都有去過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/75.wav",
        "text": "所以這邊請你思考一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/76.wav",
        "text": "當未來遇到戰時狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/77.wav",
        "text": "我們的戰力保存"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/78.wav",
        "text": "需要將各種可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/79.wav",
        "text": "都考量進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/80.wav",
        "text": "菲律賓也不失為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/81.wav",
        "text": "一個未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/82.wav",
        "text": "可以戰略上結盟的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/83.wav",
        "text": "這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/84.wav",
        "text": "屏東有個五里亭機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/85.wav",
        "text": "主跑道被破壞的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/86.wav",
        "text": "的一個備降跑道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/87.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這樣的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/88.wav",
        "text": "我的瞭解是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/89.wav",
        "text": "五里亭機場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/90.wav",
        "text": "跑道很短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/91.wav",
        "text": "跑道長度不是很足夠對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/92.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/93.wav",
        "text": "過去我們屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/94.wav",
        "text": "想要發展觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/95.wav",
        "text": "一直希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/96.wav",
        "text": "把它的跑道方向移轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/97.wav",
        "text": "避免落山風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/98.wav",
        "text": "讓大型客機可以降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/99.wav",
        "text": "後來發現到這都是一場夢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/100.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/101.wav",
        "text": "因為那裡實在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/102.wav",
        "text": "不適合大型的客機起降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/103.wav",
        "text": "但是對於我們空軍戰機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/104.wav",
        "text": "的耐候性上來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/105.wav",
        "text": "跑道只要適度的延伸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/106.wav",
        "text": "就可以作為我們六聯隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/107.wav",
        "text": "各項戰略空軍機種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/108.wav",
        "text": "請問空軍的看法怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/109.wav",
        "text": "我們大概還要再納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/110.wav",
        "text": "更周延的考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/111.wav",
        "text": "因為過去沒有這樣的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/112.wav",
        "text": "我們未來做仔細研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/113.wav",
        "text": "後再跟您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/114.wav",
        "text": "我們連戰力移轉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/115.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能考慮要用到菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/116.wav",
        "text": "這個也都要列入你們的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/117.wav",
        "text": "\n最後部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/118.wav",
        "text": "除了作戰之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/119.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/120.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的空港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/121.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/122.wav",
        "text": "不是只有空軍在使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/123.wav",
        "text": "是不是有民航機在使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/124.wav",
        "text": "是不是有貨機在使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/125.wav",
        "text": "您說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/126.wav",
        "text": "民航機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/127.wav",
        "text": "的機場起降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/128.wav",
        "text": "單純的民航機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/129.wav",
        "text": "還是軍民兩用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/130.wav",
        "text": "不管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/131.wav",
        "text": "其實最大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/132.wav",
        "text": "我問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/133.wav",
        "text": "幾年前裴洛西來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/134.wav",
        "text": "是降在哪個機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/135.wav",
        "text": "裴洛西來應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/136.wav",
        "text": "桃園機場離對岸很近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/137.wav",
        "text": "嘛他一隻手伸出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/138.wav",
        "text": "掐住你的咽喉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/139.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/140.wav",
        "text": "作為一個客機的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/141.wav",
        "text": "主要起降機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/142.wav",
        "text": "桃園機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/143.wav",
        "text": "在戰時或面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/144.wav",
        "text": "經濟封鎖的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/145.wav",
        "text": "它有很高的被封鎖性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/146.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/147.wav",
        "text": "按照某位名人的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/148.wav",
        "text": "貨出去人進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/149.wav",
        "text": "人沒有進來沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/150.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的半導體晶片能夠出口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/151.wav",
        "text": "我們就比較不擔心經濟封鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/152.wav",
        "text": "請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/153.wav",
        "text": "你知道臺灣的晶片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/154.wav",
        "text": "出去是坐飛機坐船還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/155.wav",
        "text": "用陸運嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/156.wav",
        "text": "應該大部分用空運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/157.wav",
        "text": "用空運對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/158.wav",
        "text": "所以一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/159.wav",
        "text": "輸出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/160.wav",
        "text": "出口的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/161.wav",
        "text": "空運國際機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/162.wav",
        "text": "維持臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/163.wav",
        "text": "在緊張狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/164.wav",
        "text": "下能夠持續出口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/165.wav",
        "text": "很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/166.wav",
        "text": "貨機機場放在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/167.wav",
        "text": "比較有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/168.wav",
        "text": "不會被封鎖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/169.wav",
        "text": "我已經給你秀出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/170.wav",
        "text": "其實就是跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/171.wav",
        "text": "空軍概念一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/172.wav",
        "text": "因為南部的ADIZ"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/173.wav",
        "text": "就會通過一個渠道所用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/174.wav",
        "text": "所以最後兩點請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/175.wav",
        "text": "簡短的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/176.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/177.wav",
        "text": "評估恆春機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/178.wav",
        "text": "以作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/179.wav",
        "text": "戰略機種的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/180.wav",
        "text": "一個備援起降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/181.wav",
        "text": "第二個當面臨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/182.wav",
        "text": "經濟封鎖的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/183.wav",
        "text": "如果南部有個貨運機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/184.wav",
        "text": "是不是比較能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/185.wav",
        "text": "維持臺灣的生產運輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/186.wav",
        "text": "請簡短回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/187.wav",
        "text": "我只能說我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/188.wav",
        "text": "納入評估的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/189.wav",
        "text": "我沒有辦法做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/190.wav",
        "text": "一個明確具體的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/191.wav",
        "text": "那你可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/192.wav",
        "text": "先要做可行性評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/193.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/194.wav",
        "text": "所以就是請你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/195.wav",
        "text": "做可行性評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/196.wav",
        "text": "\n以上說的是結合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/197.wav",
        "text": "部分的常識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/198.wav",
        "text": "跟部分的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/199.wav",
        "text": "所提出來的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/200.wav",
        "text": "請部長慎重考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/201.wav",
        "text": "我在交通委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/202.wav",
        "text": "向交通部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/203.wav",
        "text": "都多次提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/204.wav",
        "text": "以出口為導向的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/205.wav",
        "text": "國際貨運機場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/206.wav",
        "text": "在南部較不易受封鎖的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/207.wav",
        "text": "空域裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/208.wav",
        "text": "去設置的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154323/209.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/1.wav",
        "text": "好請何部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/3.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/4.wav",
        "text": "部長本席5月23日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/5.wav",
        "text": "日在這個委員會質詢部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/6.wav",
        "text": "當時有提到因應社工人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/7.wav",
        "text": "勞動部應快速公告修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/8.wav",
        "text": "外國人從事就業服務法第46條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/9.wav",
        "text": "第1項第1款至第6款的工作資格及審查標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/10.wav",
        "text": "外國具有社工資格者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/11.wav",
        "text": "也能在臺灣的民間團體來擔任社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/12.wav",
        "text": "部長我當時邀請你新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/13.wav",
        "text": "是不是一個月內可以來完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/14.wav",
        "text": "修正公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/15.wav",
        "text": "已經公告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/16.wav",
        "text": "那就謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/17.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的協助幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/18.wav",
        "text": "公告之後就讓臺灣有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/19.wav",
        "text": "新的一批生力軍可以到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/20.wav",
        "text": "來做這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/21.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/22.wav",
        "text": "部長有要求幕僚去做盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/23.wav",
        "text": "這樣會增加多少生力軍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/24.wav",
        "text": "你是指社工師部分嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/25.wav",
        "text": "分因為我們已經公告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/26.wav",
        "text": "目前只有幾十個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/27.wav",
        "text": "因為他要有考到我們的證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/28.wav",
        "text": "社工師要有證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/29.wav",
        "text": "現在只是允許他可以去考證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/30.wav",
        "text": "應該是這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/31.wav",
        "text": "二十幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/32.wav",
        "text": "而已二十幾位也不錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/33.wav",
        "text": "杯水車薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/34.wav",
        "text": "還是有朝正向的發展去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/35.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是如果只有二十幾位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/36.wav",
        "text": "未來會不會再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/37.wav",
        "text": "我們來鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/38.wav",
        "text": "擴大宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/39.wav",
        "text": "會有一定程度的效對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/40.wav",
        "text": "可能很多僑外生還不知道有這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/41.wav",
        "text": "我們來擴大宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/42.wav",
        "text": "爾後政策相關的一些依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/43.wav",
        "text": "大力來把這個事情做好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/44.wav",
        "text": "第二件事情是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/45.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼會這麼講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/46.wav",
        "text": "因為這個可以當成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/47.wav",
        "text": "未來一個參考指標的理由是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/48.wav",
        "text": "你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/49.wav",
        "text": "僑外生將可以從事旅宿業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/50.wav",
        "text": "中階技術工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/51.wav",
        "text": "勞動部預計8月要上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/52.wav",
        "text": "這是觀光署向國發會提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/53.wav",
        "text": "但是部長有去思考幾個問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/54.wav",
        "text": "非常嚴重沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/55.wav",
        "text": "吧所以才會朝這個方向來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/56.wav",
        "text": "中華民國旅館商業同業公會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/57.wav",
        "text": "的洪理事長特別表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/58.wav",
        "text": "臺灣中小型旅館職務編制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/59.wav",
        "text": "培訓與升遷體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/60.wav",
        "text": "都不像觀光旅館一樣齊全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/61.wav",
        "text": "僑外生可能會願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/62.wav",
        "text": "去有規模的觀光旅館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/63.wav",
        "text": "僑外生大都是大學的學歷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/64.wav",
        "text": "基本上是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/65.wav",
        "text": "所以臺灣年輕人不想去清房間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/66.wav",
        "text": "你說僑外生會去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/67.wav",
        "text": "是委員我跟你解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/68.wav",
        "text": "不可能說一個政策滿足所有的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/69.wav",
        "text": "我們只是想儘量來幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/70.wav",
        "text": "問題也確實是勞動部的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/71.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠開放這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/72.wav",
        "text": "其實是希望能夠增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/73.wav",
        "text": "多元勞動力的供給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/74.wav",
        "text": "把人才留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/75.wav",
        "text": "比較有能力進用僑外生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/76.wav",
        "text": "憑良心講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/77.wav",
        "text": "因為薪資條件比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/78.wav",
        "text": "中小型旅館可能會比較難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/79.wav",
        "text": "因為薪資條件就是比較低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/80.wav",
        "text": "所以針對中小型旅館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/81.wav",
        "text": "我們會另外再來想想其他的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/82.wav",
        "text": "可是我們有一塊很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/83.wav",
        "text": "對於本土"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/84.wav",
        "text": "我們很重要的是要推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/85.wav",
        "text": "婦女跟中高齡的就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/86.wav",
        "text": "在中小型旅館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/87.wav",
        "text": "這一塊其實空間很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/88.wav",
        "text": "在這部分可能要配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/89.wav",
        "text": "的措施我們再推動獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/90.wav",
        "text": "然後協助中小型旅館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/91.wav",
        "text": "來做這一塊的進用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/92.wav",
        "text": "部長就講到重點了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/93.wav",
        "text": "講到獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/94.wav",
        "text": "就是政策上來鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/95.wav",
        "text": "一個部有辦法去完成的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/96.wav",
        "text": "現在針對婦女跟中高齡的獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/97.wav",
        "text": "是我這邊主要在推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/98.wav",
        "text": "那你是focus在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/99.wav",
        "text": "這個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/100.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可以針對這個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/101.wav",
        "text": "尤其是中小型旅館這個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/102.wav",
        "text": "我們可以加大來推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/103.wav",
        "text": "對象就是中高齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/104.wav",
        "text": "服務業就是針對中小型的旅宿業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/105.wav",
        "text": "你要把這個套在這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/106.wav",
        "text": "所以單憑勞動部一己之力就夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/107.wav",
        "text": "我們也要配合觀光署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/108.wav",
        "text": "和交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/109.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有疫後改善缺工擴大方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/110.wav",
        "text": "就是針對旅宿業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/111.wav",
        "text": "其實現在也已經進用不少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/112.wav",
        "text": "有上萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/113.wav",
        "text": "目前有上萬人進到旅宿業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/114.wav",
        "text": "有那已經是進行一兩年的計畫了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/115.wav",
        "text": "有進到旅宿業嗎沒有吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/116.wav",
        "text": "比例多少一兩萬人是比例多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/117.wav",
        "text": "你總是有做嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/118.wav",
        "text": "就請部長把你回應我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/119.wav",
        "text": "一兩萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/120.wav",
        "text": "比例多少是進到你講的旅宿業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/121.wav",
        "text": "差不多多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/122.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要來看你的成效怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/123.wav",
        "text": "目前他們的需求大概不到300人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/124.wav",
        "text": "透過我們的專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/125.wav",
        "text": "我們的協助大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/126.wav",
        "text": "你講他們的需求不到300"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/127.wav",
        "text": "是指旅宿業嗎中小型的旅宿業嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/128.wav",
        "text": "對就是旅宿業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/129.wav",
        "text": "就應該可以補足了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/130.wav",
        "text": "對現在就是我們媒合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/131.wav",
        "text": "其實目前的媒合就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/132.wav",
        "text": "這個還在持續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/133.wav",
        "text": "現在我會再延長到今年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/134.wav",
        "text": "也是配合這一個為了幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/135.wav",
        "text": "這個理事長對外發表這樣一個言論是什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/136.wav",
        "text": "他是前幾天吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/137.wav",
        "text": "應該是代表比較中小型旅館的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/138.wav",
        "text": "是我們也很重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/139.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/140.wav",
        "text": "需求不到300嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/141.wav",
        "text": "那在這一兩年已經補足一兩萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/142.wav",
        "text": "那等於300個空缺cover過去是很簡單的一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/143.wav",
        "text": "說有300個移工需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/144.wav",
        "text": "因為我們沒有辦法在這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/145.wav",
        "text": "開放服務業引進移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/146.wav",
        "text": "所以我們必須想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/147.wav",
        "text": "比如補足僑外生這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/148.wav",
        "text": "僑外生這一塊也許可以有一些補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/149.wav",
        "text": "那麼針對中小型旅館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/150.wav",
        "text": "我們另外再來設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/151.wav",
        "text": "針對婦女跟中高齡開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/152.wav",
        "text": "我的意思是說我覺得部長你跟署長講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/153.wav",
        "text": "不太一樣的範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/154.wav",
        "text": "你們說的內容好像怪怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/155.wav",
        "text": "理事長提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/156.wav",
        "text": "你們已經有備案了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/157.wav",
        "text": "簡單講就是這樣嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/158.wav",
        "text": "不是說備案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/159.wav",
        "text": "而是我本來就在進行這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/160.wav",
        "text": "針對婦女跟中高齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/161.wav",
        "text": "本來就是我優先推動的本土勞動力的開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/162.wav",
        "text": "是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/163.wav",
        "text": "你還沒有就任部長以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/164.wav",
        "text": "應該就在推了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/165.wav",
        "text": "應該是這麼說嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/166.wav",
        "text": "我就任部長以後才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/167.wav",
        "text": "對對對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/168.wav",
        "text": "是本來就是我們要優先推動本土勞動力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/169.wav",
        "text": "這裡有56萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/170.wav",
        "text": "但是我們因為必須讓缺工不等於低薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/171.wav",
        "text": "所以不能用移工來解決這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/172.wav",
        "text": "部長簡單回答我一句話就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/173.wav",
        "text": "我們本土的中高齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/174.wav",
        "text": "方案什麼時候開始可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/175.wav",
        "text": "現在已經在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/176.wav",
        "text": "在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/177.wav",
        "text": "那你現在已經補足多少進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/178.wav",
        "text": "簡單講就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/179.wav",
        "text": "所謂300缺額的需求也是最近的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/180.wav",
        "text": "這個都是他們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/181.wav",
        "text": "要引進移工的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/182.wav",
        "text": "這300人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/183.wav",
        "text": "我們現在也可以用婦女跟中高齡來補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/184.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/185.wav",
        "text": "原來就有針對婦女跟中高齡的獎勵方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/186.wav",
        "text": "就是你現在已經在做了嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/187.wav",
        "text": "對希望能夠擴大來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/188.wav",
        "text": "人員到位是什麼時候當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/189.wav",
        "text": "希望能儘快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/190.wav",
        "text": "但是基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/191.wav",
        "text": "人還沒有到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/192.wav",
        "text": "當然我們就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/193.wav",
        "text": "來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/194.wav",
        "text": "你這個專案是不是可以給我詳細的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/195.wav",
        "text": "讓我來參考再提出相關的建言好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/196.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/197.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154324/198.wav",
        "text": "\n本日會議詢答全部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/0.wav",
        "text": "主席在場的委員先進列席的政府機關首長官員會場工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/1.wav",
        "text": "好請相關人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/2.wav",
        "text": "次長好董事長好其實這是我第三度李董事長應該很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/3.wav",
        "text": "我在談港區要設置氫能專區建置基建工業剩餘熱能再利用以利減碳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/4.wav",
        "text": "我們來先看荷蘭將打造全球最大的綠色氫氣場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/5.wav",
        "text": "場打算在鹿特丹港建造一個最大規模的綠色氫氣場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/6.wav",
        "text": "用離岸風電產生的電力產生氫氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/7.wav",
        "text": "再用原來的油氣管線銷往歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/8.wav",
        "text": "請問次長你大概有略略聽聞吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/9.wav",
        "text": "這就是歐洲氫能樞紐的雄心壯志"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/10.wav",
        "text": "裡面有負責生產的有進口的有管道運輸的還有加氫站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/11.wav",
        "text": "未來還有1,000輛的氫能卡車運送氫能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/12.wav",
        "text": "像運油的油槽車一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/13.wav",
        "text": "在安特衛普杜伊斯堡和鹿特丹之間行駛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/14.wav",
        "text": "目前鹿特丹的構想是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/15.wav",
        "text": "用藍氫碳捕捉來產生氫氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/16.wav",
        "text": "長期來看他們用風光電能發電來產生綠氫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/17.wav",
        "text": "產生電解水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/18.wav",
        "text": "他們還思考到縱使在荷蘭縱使在歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/19.wav",
        "text": "輸入液態氨這個能源中心還要管線輸入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/20.wav",
        "text": "請問經濟部我們國內本身的綠電能跟荷蘭比嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/21.wav",
        "text": "跟鹿兒島港也是這樣的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/22.wav",
        "text": "日本其實沒太多綠電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/23.wav",
        "text": "它用有限的綠電來產生綠電跟氫能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/24.wav",
        "text": "所以有一個潔淨燃料加注的專用碼頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/25.wav",
        "text": "而且免徵進港費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/26.wav",
        "text": "甲烷和氨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/27.wav",
        "text": "日本是不是執世界航運的牛耳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/28.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以請次長開始積極要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/29.wav",
        "text": "臺港公司在港區設置氫能專用區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/30.wav",
        "text": "包括碼頭生產儲存跟運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/31.wav",
        "text": "我先請董事長跟您報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/32.wav",
        "text": "我想氫能的發展是世界潮流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/33.wav",
        "text": "我們港務公司在港口是配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/34.wav",
        "text": "這個就是離岸風電的電力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/35.wav",
        "text": "來自氫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/36.wav",
        "text": "那進口呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/37.wav",
        "text": "如果船舶要加潔淨能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/38.wav",
        "text": "進口的這些油槽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/39.wav",
        "text": "可能不是裝LNG了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/40.wav",
        "text": "可能是裝氨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/41.wav",
        "text": "有一個南碼頭地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/42.wav",
        "text": "是那高雄呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/43.wav",
        "text": "有一個南星計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/44.wav",
        "text": "目前也配合中油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/45.wav",
        "text": "在準備填土"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/46.wav",
        "text": "那也是做這一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/47.wav",
        "text": "這些珍貴的港區空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/48.wav",
        "text": "目前有一部分是用來組裝離岸風機的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/49.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/50.wav",
        "text": "未來他們是不是有用來儲存氫能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/51.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/52.wav",
        "text": "有準備給氫能做氫能產製氫的工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/53.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/54.wav",
        "text": "我想離岸風電的開發商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/55.wav",
        "text": "也跟我們一直在探討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/56.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在臺中也有盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/57.wav",
        "text": "我們也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/58.wav",
        "text": "跟誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/59.wav",
        "text": "跟跟台肥沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/60.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/61.wav",
        "text": "跟哥本哈根"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/62.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/63.wav",
        "text": "所以我要跟次長說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/64.wav",
        "text": "今天因為都是副首長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/65.wav",
        "text": "要請經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/66.wav",
        "text": "甚至更往上的行政院高層強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/67.wav",
        "text": "氫能這個趨勢臺灣要做好準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/68.wav",
        "text": "連日本荷蘭他們都有這樣的雄心壯志"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/69.wav",
        "text": "就算日本是一個能源輸入國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/70.wav",
        "text": "都想到了潔淨燃料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/71.wav",
        "text": "來提供國內氫能的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/72.wav",
        "text": "所以港區的空間所需要的油槽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/73.wav",
        "text": "不只是台電公司去建三接而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/74.wav",
        "text": "可能舊有的港區要擴充這樣的接收能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/75.wav",
        "text": "次長是不是可以說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/76.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/77.wav",
        "text": "確實因為IMO規定氨氫甲烷LNG"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/78.wav",
        "text": "都是未來乾淨能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/79.wav",
        "text": "船運力在全世界也是滿高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/80.wav",
        "text": "第八名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/81.wav",
        "text": "的所以基本上我所知道的像裕民航運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/82.wav",
        "text": "長榮甚至陽明都已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/83.wav",
        "text": "我上次就問過你們部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/84.wav",
        "text": "已經都開始了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/85.wav",
        "text": "開始在處理這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/86.wav",
        "text": "所以對港公司來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/87.wav",
        "text": "它現在就是提供土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/88.wav",
        "text": "跟經濟部相關的產業結合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/89.wav",
        "text": "來發展相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/90.wav",
        "text": "珍貴的港區空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/91.wav",
        "text": "要預留新能源發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/92.wav",
        "text": "所需要的是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/93.wav",
        "text": "我們自己也需要加這類的能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/94.wav",
        "text": "好還有一個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/95.wav",
        "text": "比利時安特衛普的工業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/96.wav",
        "text": "因為在我們港區附近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/97.wav",
        "text": "會有很多工業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/98.wav",
        "text": "它可能需要就近使用氫能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/99.wav",
        "text": "它產生的餘熱再利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/100.wav",
        "text": "雖然這套系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/101.wav",
        "text": "應該是經濟部來規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/102.wav",
        "text": "但是未來港區規劃的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/103.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有去思考配置像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/104.wav",
        "text": "像安特衛普布魯日港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/105.wav",
        "text": "的建築使用這些功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/106.wav",
        "text": "管線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/107.wav",
        "text": "如果是工業熱能要轉換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/108.wav",
        "text": "剛好高雄港那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/109.wav",
        "text": "都可以來配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/110.wav",
        "text": "所以是經濟部跟交通部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/111.wav",
        "text": "要共同來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/112.wav",
        "text": "\n好最後兩個訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/113.wav",
        "text": "請評估於港區設立氫能專用區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/114.wav",
        "text": "包含專用碼頭及生產儲存使用等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/115.wav",
        "text": "基礎建設的可行性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/116.wav",
        "text": "最後請評估港區結合鄰近工業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/117.wav",
        "text": "建置工業剩餘熱能再利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/118.wav",
        "text": "設施的可行性可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/119.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/120.wav",
        "text": "好那我也不跟你限日期了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/121.wav",
        "text": "您再給我本席這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/122.wav",
        "text": "我們來追蹤好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/123.wav",
        "text": "是這應該要做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154325/124.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝次長謝謝董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/0.wav",
        "text": "有請次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/1.wav",
        "text": "是這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/2.wav",
        "text": "因為本席最近接到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/3.wav",
        "text": "民眾反映"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/4.wav",
        "text": "一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/5.wav",
        "text": "就是在一個駭客的論壇裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/6.wav",
        "text": "應該是黑帽黑客的犯罪論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/7.wav",
        "text": "它公布了一次大規模的資料洩漏事件"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/8.wav",
        "text": "因為這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/9.wav",
        "text": "其實跟今天的報告也有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/10.wav",
        "text": "航安智慧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/11.wav",
        "text": "港灣大家及委員最關心的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/12.wav",
        "text": "還是有關於個資會外洩的事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/13.wav",
        "text": "近期發生的這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/14.wav",
        "text": "就是在6月5號"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/15.wav",
        "text": "有一個黑帽黑客犯罪論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/16.wav",
        "text": "公布了一次大規模的資料洩漏事件"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/17.wav",
        "text": "涉及了臺灣旅館業者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/18.wav",
        "text": "有8萬筆的訂房相關資料都洩漏了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/19.wav",
        "text": "洩漏的數據"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/20.wav",
        "text": "包括時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/21.wav",
        "text": "身分證字號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/22.wav",
        "text": "支付方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/23.wav",
        "text": "性別名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/24.wav",
        "text": "入住及退房日期電子郵件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/25.wav",
        "text": "以及部分的地址"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/26.wav",
        "text": "甚至包括亞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/27.wav",
        "text": "亞果遊艇渡假村"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/28.wav",
        "text": "阿里山賓館"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/29.wav",
        "text": "臺中林酒店和別墅俱樂部等等"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/30.wav",
        "text": "這些知名的旅館業者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/31.wav",
        "text": "而這些旅館的網站"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/32.wav",
        "text": "看起來都是由一個叫做"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/33.wav",
        "text": "2A多媒體創意團隊"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/34.wav",
        "text": "的網頁公司所製作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/35.wav",
        "text": "個資外洩的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/36.wav",
        "text": "所以本席想要請教一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/37.wav",
        "text": "個資管理有哪些措施"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/38.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/39.wav",
        "text": "我們對監管的業者"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/40.wav",
        "text": "都有要求要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/41.wav",
        "text": "提列類似資安保護計畫"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/42.wav",
        "text": "個資法現在也修正了"
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        "text": "原來"
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        "text": "違反規定是負責人跟公司罰20萬"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/45.wav",
        "text": "現在都已經提升到相當高的金額"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/46.wav",
        "text": "一旦有這樣的事件"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/47.wav",
        "text": "發生像這是觀光署"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/48.wav",
        "text": "旅行應該是相關的組"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/49.wav",
        "text": "要去做行政檢查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/50.wav",
        "text": "是你們有獲知這個訊息嗎"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/51.wav",
        "text": "這個可能要問觀光署"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/52.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/53.wav",
        "text": "其實蠻重要的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/54.wav",
        "text": "因為它畢竟洩漏8萬筆的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/55.wav",
        "text": "訂房相關資料"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/56.wav",
        "text": "而且從6月5號"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/57.wav",
        "text": "就開始在這個論壇上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/58.wav",
        "text": "販售這個資料"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/59.wav",
        "text": "這個議題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/60.wav",
        "text": "我希望交通部能夠關注"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/61.wav",
        "text": "你們目前有關的法規"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/62.wav",
        "text": "交通部指定觀光產業"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/63.wav",
        "text": "類的個人資料檔案"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/64.wav",
        "text": "安全維護計畫及處理辦法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/65.wav",
        "text": "在這個辦法裡面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/66.wav",
        "text": "本席也發現了幾個問題"
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        "text": "第一個你們現在監管的對象"
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        "text": "主要是包含觀光旅館業"
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        "text": "民宿業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/70.wav",
        "text": "觀光遊樂業等等"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/71.wav",
        "text": "但是並沒有包含平台"
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        "text": "大家知道現在其實"
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        "text": "很多的民眾訂旅館"
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        "text": "不見得是直接去跟那個旅館業者訂"
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        "text": "而是去跟平台業者訂"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/77.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/78.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
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        "text": "因為我們相關的監管單位"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/82.wav",
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        "text": "對因為這個部分的話"
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        "text": "看起來交通部觀光署"
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        "text": "沒有follow到現在"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/87.wav",
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/88.wav",
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        "text": "訂房網站平台非常多"
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        "text": "而且大部分也都"
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        "text": "透過訂房網去訂的"
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        "text": "個資的一些問題"
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        "text": "這些議題都蠻重要的"
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        "text": "是報告委員我請觀光署"
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        "text": "剛剛講的"
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        "text": "應該也要做滾動式的檢討修正"
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        "text": "才需要去"
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        "text": "8,000筆資料"
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        "text": "這個門檻會不會太低了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/109.wav",
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        "text": "做為經營事業的"
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        "text": "擬訂相關的個資保護計畫"
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        "text": "尤其像我們剛剛講的"
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        "text": "都還不知道有這樣的一個狀況"
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        "text": "是跟委員報告"
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        "text": "這個當初應該都是考量到"
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        "text": "很多民宿或小的"
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        "text": "我們叫一般旅館"
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        "text": "它是屬於小規模經營"
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        "text": "所以可能當初訂"
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        "text": "規定的時候"
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        "text": "他們的能力相對沒有那麼好"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/126.wav",
        "text": "早期可能都是臨櫃"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/127.wav",
        "text": "所以臨櫃的話就是蒐集資料"
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        "text": "現在如果有平台"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/129.wav",
        "text": "加上您剛剛提的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/130.wav",
        "text": "可能形態上已經不太一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/131.wav",
        "text": "重新檢討一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/132.wav",
        "text": "原來的個資保護計畫是不是足夠"
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        "text": "有必要就做調整"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/134.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊也要請求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/135.wav",
        "text": "交通部希望能夠將"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/136.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我們講的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/137.wav",
        "text": "也就是本席所說的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/138.wav",
        "text": "販售個資的案子"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/139.wav",
        "text": "提供書面資料給我"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/140.wav",
        "text": "在你們檢查調查清楚之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/141.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以儘速"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/142.wav",
        "text": "將相關的報告給我"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154326/143.wav",
        "text": "之後再請你們的國會聯絡人跟我聯絡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/0.wav",
        "text": "好麻煩請次長航港局還有港務公司"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/1.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/2.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/3.wav",
        "text": "今天討論到港務"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/4.wav",
        "text": "當然智慧化的東西很好"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/5.wav",
        "text": "可是我今天想要問的是一些其他的東西"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/6.wav",
        "text": "時常都會有一些"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/7.wav",
        "text": "船舶可能發生一些意外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/8.wav",
        "text": "或者是一些災害"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/9.wav",
        "text": "那就會有一些搶救的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/10.wav",
        "text": "有時候因為船主"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/11.wav",
        "text": "本身可能在發生事故之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/12.wav",
        "text": "就擺爛了對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/13.wav",
        "text": "很多這樣的情形"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/14.wav",
        "text": "根據統計"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/15.wav",
        "text": "航港局代處理一些外籍船舶事件的墊付費用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/16.wav",
        "text": "我們預估"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/17.wav",
        "text": "大概2億5"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/18.wav",
        "text": "這個數字如果說有錯你們可以指正一下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/19.wav",
        "text": "實際上我們可能透過一些保險"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/20.wav",
        "text": "這些後我們預計待追償的費用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/21.wav",
        "text": "大概還有1億6這樣的一個數字"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/22.wav",
        "text": "這數字應該是差不多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/23.wav",
        "text": "嘛我想確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/24.wav",
        "text": "這些還沒有著落的待追償費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/25.wav",
        "text": "的在臺駐處因為船籍國負有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/26.wav",
        "text": "管理這個船舶的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/27.wav",
        "text": "目前還沒有確實這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/28.wav",
        "text": "還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/29.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是透過陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/30.wav",
        "text": "行政執行的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/31.wav",
        "text": "我們會透過行政執行署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/32.wav",
        "text": "然後透過行政執行署來追償他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/33.wav",
        "text": "國內應該是比較沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/34.wav",
        "text": "重點是國外跟港澳的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/35.wav",
        "text": "目前除了待追償費用1億6之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/36.wav",
        "text": "可能還有些因為還要打撈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/37.wav",
        "text": "但還沒有預估進行打撈的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/38.wav",
        "text": "應該也是達到了一億多的規模"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/39.wav",
        "text": "預估將來要去執行一些打撈作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/40.wav",
        "text": "加起來接近3億元的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/41.wav",
        "text": "目前都是由我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/42.wav",
        "text": "航港建設基金在支應對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/43.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/44.wav",
        "text": "目前來看剛剛您說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/45.wav",
        "text": "透過外交管道去做追償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/46.wav",
        "text": "跟他們國家的部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/47.wav",
        "text": "給他們一些柔性的勸說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/48.wav",
        "text": "聽起來好像是這樣是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/49.wav",
        "text": "他們的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/50.wav",
        "text": "跟我們之間好像並沒有一些相關的協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/51.wav",
        "text": "而能夠透過司法的手段要求他們的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/52.wav",
        "text": "積欠的款項來還給我國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/53.wav",
        "text": "這部分的確存在實質上的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/54.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告我們現在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/55.wav",
        "text": "具體的做法跟方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/56.wav",
        "text": "因為外籍的次標準船"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/57.wav",
        "text": "如果發生事故卻沒有足夠的保險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/58.wav",
        "text": "負起海事責任的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/59.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在在進出港的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/60.wav",
        "text": "叫做船東責任險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/61.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們是非常嚴格的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/62.wav",
        "text": "在進行實質的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/63.wav",
        "text": "這幾年經過審查之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/64.wav",
        "text": "這一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/65.wav",
        "text": "沒有足夠保險的船舶"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/66.wav",
        "text": "進入我國港口的情形"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/67.wav",
        "text": "已經有明顯的減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/68.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分我想對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/69.wav",
        "text": "嚇阻這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/70.wav",
        "text": "準船在我國周邊海域活動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/71.wav",
        "text": "或是進出我國港口的情形"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/72.wav",
        "text": "所以短期間是透過保險"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/73.wav",
        "text": "我們要確認它有足夠的保險"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/74.wav",
        "text": "當它發生意外的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/75.wav",
        "text": "我們才有足夠的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/76.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛報告的這個保險"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/77.wav",
        "text": "嘛現在開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/78.wav",
        "text": "或是之前已經開始的一些作為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/79.wav",
        "text": "確實可能可以防範"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/80.wav",
        "text": "之後發生一些事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/81.wav",
        "text": "當然我們也"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/82.wav",
        "text": "不能讓我們國家的錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/83.wav",
        "text": "來替外國船隻代墊費用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/84.wav",
        "text": "之前這些款項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/85.wav",
        "text": "還是要麻煩港務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/86.wav",
        "text": "港務公司"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/87.wav",
        "text": "確實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/88.wav",
        "text": "無論是尋求跨部會的協助等等"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/89.wav",
        "text": "可能有一些司法互助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/90.wav",
        "text": "當然我不知道追償這種東西"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/91.wav",
        "text": "在國際法上面要如何執行"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/92.wav",
        "text": "但我只希望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/93.wav",
        "text": "這一筆接近3億元的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/94.wav",
        "text": "會去努力把它追討回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/95.wav",
        "text": "償也會請教法律專業的諮詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/96.wav",
        "text": "採取必要的法律行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/97.wav",
        "text": "好是不是看您需要多少的時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/98.wav",
        "text": "提供給我的國會辦公室報告委員是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/99.wav",
        "text": "可以兩個月之內"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/100.wav",
        "text": "好兩個月"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/101.wav",
        "text": "可能空域我也想問一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/102.wav",
        "text": "其實大家對無人機的使用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/103.wav",
        "text": "都會有很多的想像"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/104.wav",
        "text": "以後可不可以用無人載具"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/105.wav",
        "text": "航空無人機空域的一些管制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/106.wav",
        "text": "我們現在有開始啟動了嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/107.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告無人機的管理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/108.wav",
        "text": "在人機空域都已經在管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/109.wav",
        "text": "已經管了四年多了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/110.wav",
        "text": "送貨或者是啟動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/111.wav",
        "text": "甚至以後載人都有可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/112.wav",
        "text": "這一類的議題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/113.wav",
        "text": "美國FAA跟ICAO相關的部門"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/114.wav",
        "text": "也已經開始在制定規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/115.wav",
        "text": "但是在還沒有之前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/116.wav",
        "text": "有些國家是利用沙盒實驗"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/117.wav",
        "text": "或是用一些廊道來做試驗"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/118.wav",
        "text": "這個有點類似專案計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/119.wav",
        "text": "因為現在小規模的可能看起來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/120.wav",
        "text": "還好以後我們必須要把它想像成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/121.wav",
        "text": "可能就像我們現在的馬路"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/122.wav",
        "text": "有可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/123.wav",
        "text": "你可能要分層分高度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/124.wav",
        "text": "或者是分廊道分路線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/125.wav",
        "text": "未來科技發展得非常快"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/126.wav",
        "text": "能夠及早因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/127.wav",
        "text": "需要做的一些配套措施"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/128.wav",
        "text": "讓業者能夠遵循"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/129.wav",
        "text": "是中華郵政公司有試辦幾個計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/130.wav",
        "text": "像醫療用品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/131.wav",
        "text": "好我們把規範訂好訂出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/132.wav",
        "text": "業者才有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/133.wav",
        "text": "來做一些嘗試突破創新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154327/134.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席本席請鄭部長好請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好部長您是教育家所以本席想請教你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/2.wav",
        "text": "您知道考古題為什麼會是考古題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/3.wav",
        "text": "代表的意義是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/4.wav",
        "text": "考古題某種程度可能是它在那個學科知識裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/5.wav",
        "text": "是一個核心的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/6.wav",
        "text": "表示這是很重點很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/7.wav",
        "text": "首先請教部長您知道我們全國"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/8.wav",
        "text": "平均年齡最低的是哪一個縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/9.wav",
        "text": "嗎本席知道你來自高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/10.wav",
        "text": "那你知道全國平均年齡最低的是哪一個縣市"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/11.wav",
        "text": "歲數不是壽命不是壽命是歲數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/12.wav",
        "text": "就是說現在國人有平均年齡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/13.wav",
        "text": "但是每個縣市也有它的平均年齡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/14.wav",
        "text": "苗栗苗栗新竹縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/15.wav",
        "text": "苗栗可能人口比較老化一點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/16.wav",
        "text": "全國平均年齡最低也就是最年輕的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/17.wav",
        "text": "是新竹縣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/18.wav",
        "text": "本席也要同步讓您更瞭解新竹縣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/19.wav",
        "text": "新竹縣的粗出生率也是全國排名第二"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/20.wav",
        "text": "它的人口增加率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/21.wav",
        "text": "這個不是遷徙而是新生的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/22.wav",
        "text": "就是說它的人口增加率主要來自新生兒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/23.wav",
        "text": "新竹縣的人口增加率也是本島排名的第二名"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/24.wav",
        "text": "表示很多新生兒都在這一個縣市"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/25.wav",
        "text": "特別在這個縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/26.wav",
        "text": "本席接下來要講的就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/27.wav",
        "text": "這個區塊他們需要的教育資源"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/28.wav",
        "text": "是異於全國各縣市的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/29.wav",
        "text": "現在不是少子化嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/30.wav",
        "text": "不管從國小國中高中到大學"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/31.wav",
        "text": "但是在新竹縣竹北市是不一樣的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/32.wav",
        "text": "所以在此本席也要特別請部長注意您剛剛就任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/33.wav",
        "text": "要特別的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/34.wav",
        "text": "我們新竹縣很多的家長不斷的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/35.wav",
        "text": "提出我只要在地方跑他們都希望可以跟部長表達"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/36.wav",
        "text": "要重視也就是說這是很特殊的一個區塊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/37.wav",
        "text": "既然有這麼多我們未來國家的棟樑主人翁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/38.wav",
        "text": "在新竹縣這邊就教育資源這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/39.wav",
        "text": "是不是能夠特別的來挹注我們新竹縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/40.wav",
        "text": "\n當然本席也知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/41.wav",
        "text": "不知道部長您就任之後有沒有瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/42.wav",
        "text": "教育部有新興人口成長區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/43.wav",
        "text": "公立高級中學以下學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/44.wav",
        "text": "校舍新（增）建工程計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/45.wav",
        "text": "也就是對於這些新興人口特別多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/46.wav",
        "text": "都會特別給予專案補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/47.wav",
        "text": "所以本席首先就在這裡要表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/48.wav",
        "text": "校舍新建了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/49.wav",
        "text": "還有它的各種軟硬體設施跟教學設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/50.wav",
        "text": "我們都希望教育部可以特別的來幫助來加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/51.wav",
        "text": "本席從縣議員到立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/52.wav",
        "text": "這次第二任當立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/53.wav",
        "text": "這十幾年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/54.wav",
        "text": "10分鐘車程內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/55.wav",
        "text": "新增了5所國小3所國中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/56.wav",
        "text": "但是教育資源非常的不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/57.wav",
        "text": "包含新竹縣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/58.wav",
        "text": "在教育經費的投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/59.wav",
        "text": "從107年的101.66億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/60.wav",
        "text": "到今年已經增加到153億了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/61.wav",
        "text": "\n好所以本席很快地在這邊說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/62.wav",
        "text": "除小學中學的校舍跟設施需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/63.wav",
        "text": "當這些孩子長大以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/64.wav",
        "text": "我們就需要高中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/65.wav",
        "text": "我們的高中也是非常的不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/66.wav",
        "text": "今年1月份總統大選前一週"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/67.wav",
        "text": "民進黨執政的行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/68.wav",
        "text": "副院長來到地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/69.wav",
        "text": "也允諾了要給我們新竹縣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/70.wav",
        "text": "重大公共建設計畫經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/71.wav",
        "text": "總共35億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/72.wav",
        "text": "現在已經6月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/73.wav",
        "text": "已經半年過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/74.wav",
        "text": "最後本席就請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/75.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候會核定這些經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/76.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/77.wav",
        "text": "有關新竹縣特別竹北的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/78.wav",
        "text": "半年過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/79.wav",
        "text": "經費沒有下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/80.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今年跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/81.wav",
        "text": "我們今年已經先核定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/82.wav",
        "text": "有5個學校增加了5班的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/83.wav",
        "text": "這個是指高中吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/84.wav",
        "text": "然後116學年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/85.wav",
        "text": "預估大概會增加49班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/86.wav",
        "text": "有將近1,700個名額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/87.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分我們都在掌握中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/88.wav",
        "text": "然後委員所關心的那部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/89.wav",
        "text": "國教署也已經報行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/90.wav",
        "text": "所以這一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/91.wav",
        "text": "35億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/92.wav",
        "text": "35億的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/93.wav",
        "text": "然後現在過半年了經費沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/94.wav",
        "text": "下來非常感謝主席給我這個時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/95.wav",
        "text": "所以拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/96.wav",
        "text": "我拜託部長好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/97.wav",
        "text": "不然我們下個會期又要再碰面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/98.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/99.wav",
        "text": "剛剛邱志偉委員說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/100.wav",
        "text": "請您說好好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/101.wav",
        "text": "拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/102.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/103.wav",
        "text": "我也很希望您就說個好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/104.wav",
        "text": "既然委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/105.wav",
        "text": "我們就可以結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/106.wav",
        "text": "感謝委員對我的肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/107.wav",
        "text": "我既然是一個學教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/108.wav",
        "text": "教育家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/109.wav",
        "text": "我對教育有一定的使命跟承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/110.wav",
        "text": "只要對學童教育品質的提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/111.wav",
        "text": "有其急迫性跟重要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/112.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會全力來支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/113.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154328/114.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/0.wav",
        "text": "有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/1.wav",
        "text": "我們請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/2.wav",
        "text": "委員部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/3.wav",
        "text": "今天針對兩個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/4.wav",
        "text": "一個是農業資訊安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/5.wav",
        "text": "一個是農業勞動力缺乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/6.wav",
        "text": "在資訊安全的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/7.wav",
        "text": "本席要提出一個案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/8.wav",
        "text": "我們來進行剖析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/9.wav",
        "text": "農金署針對農業資訊的這兩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/10.wav",
        "text": "你們是否有公平對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/11.wav",
        "text": "針對南農中心跟農金資訊公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/12.wav",
        "text": "再者是我們農業勞動力匱乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/13.wav",
        "text": "的部分\n這邊我要請部長表態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/14.wav",
        "text": "資安是不是國安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/15.wav",
        "text": "如果是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/16.wav",
        "text": "你能夠接受您下面的各署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/17.wav",
        "text": "違反資安原則嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/18.wav",
        "text": "第三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/19.wav",
        "text": "你能夠接受您下面所有各單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/20.wav",
        "text": "在處理民眾爭議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/21.wav",
        "text": "是不公平的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/22.wav",
        "text": "這三個您必須先表態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/23.wav",
        "text": "我才能夠繼續來跟您討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/24.wav",
        "text": "有關農業部的資安問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/25.wav",
        "text": "資安是不是國安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/26.wav",
        "text": "我想資安在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/27.wav",
        "text": "某個程度來講一定是國安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/28.wav",
        "text": "因為資安的部分從個人的資訊安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/29.wav",
        "text": "到整個國家的資訊安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/30.wav",
        "text": "你能夠接受您下面的單位違反資安原則嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/31.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/32.wav",
        "text": "我們身為公務員一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/33.wav",
        "text": "根據相關的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/34.wav",
        "text": "那就是要按照資安的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/35.wav",
        "text": "所以你也不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/36.wav",
        "text": "你下面的單位違反資安原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/37.wav",
        "text": "所以你能夠接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/38.wav",
        "text": "在處理這樣的民眾爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/39.wav",
        "text": "或者是在你們部內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/40.wav",
        "text": "有不公平的對待嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/41.wav",
        "text": "我想絕對不允許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/42.wav",
        "text": "我們對一般的合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/43.wav",
        "text": "最近才發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/44.wav",
        "text": "這是受害者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/45.wav",
        "text": "這叫無辜的受害者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/46.wav",
        "text": "旁邊這邊有農金資公司南農中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/47.wav",
        "text": "不要說政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/48.wav",
        "text": "啦就是農業金庫百分百投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/49.wav",
        "text": "但是它所有的業務都是外包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/50.wav",
        "text": "沒有設計人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/51.wav",
        "text": "所有的維護也都是外包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/52.wav",
        "text": "好那也沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/53.wav",
        "text": "反正你們接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/54.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們認為農業部有錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/55.wav",
        "text": "它竟然允許外包公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/56.wav",
        "text": "進到神岡區農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/57.wav",
        "text": "然後去竊取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/58.wav",
        "text": "南農中心在神岡農會的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/59.wav",
        "text": "這已經是商業競爭當中的商業間諜了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/60.wav",
        "text": "因為它用了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/61.wav",
        "text": "任何的資訊系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/62.wav",
        "text": "其實這兩方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/63.wav",
        "text": "不管是南農中心或農金資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/64.wav",
        "text": "都是有約定軟體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/65.wav",
        "text": "甚至你看這個末端獨立系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/66.wav",
        "text": "南農中心都有規範的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/67.wav",
        "text": "使用約定作業範圍外的木馬程式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/68.wav",
        "text": "端末來竊取南農中心的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/69.wav",
        "text": "南農中心的檢測就發現到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/70.wav",
        "text": "高頻率的交易異常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/71.wav",
        "text": "經查是非約定的程式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/72.wav",
        "text": "好我們來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/73.wav",
        "text": "你允許你的底下部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/74.wav",
        "text": "它7月4號要開個會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/75.wav",
        "text": "它也出席了邀了農金資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/76.wav",
        "text": "以及南農中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/77.wav",
        "text": "結果你們說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/78.wav",
        "text": "我只針對受害者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/79.wav",
        "text": "叫做神岡農會信用部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/80.wav",
        "text": "跟受害者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/81.wav",
        "text": "南農中心的轉換系統爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/82.wav",
        "text": "來釐清問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/83.wav",
        "text": "農金公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/84.wav",
        "text": "你是不處理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/85.wav",
        "text": "喔我為了來質詢這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/86.wav",
        "text": "本席邀請了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/87.wav",
        "text": "我們國家在處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/88.wav",
        "text": "資安的是哪一個部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/89.wav",
        "text": "數發部我邀請數發部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/90.wav",
        "text": "下面的資安院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/91.wav",
        "text": "公共工程委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/92.wav",
        "text": "金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/93.wav",
        "text": "它說因為發現得早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/94.wav",
        "text": "尚未達到資訊外洩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/95.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/96.wav",
        "text": "這是嚴重的資安風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/97.wav",
        "text": "我找了4個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/98.wav",
        "text": "來確認這個案情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/99.wav",
        "text": "針對兩個受害者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/100.wav",
        "text": "也沒有想到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/101.wav",
        "text": "到自己是不是專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/102.wav",
        "text": "不專業就要謙虛一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/103.wav",
        "text": "像本席就認為我的資安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/104.wav",
        "text": "所以我就請了4個單位來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/105.wav",
        "text": "\n這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/106.wav",
        "text": "最後您再來回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/107.wav",
        "text": "我先針對農業勞動力的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/108.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的農家戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/109.wav",
        "text": "農家人口數是239萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/110.wav",
        "text": "實質農牧的從業戶是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/111.wav",
        "text": "76萬降為35萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/112.wav",
        "text": "只有一半在從事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/113.wav",
        "text": "而這35萬當中的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/114.wav",
        "text": "高齡農牧戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/115.wav",
        "text": "我們來看產值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/116.wav",
        "text": "這是行政院主計總處提供的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/117.wav",
        "text": "從108年到去年112"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/118.wav",
        "text": "年農業產值的逐年比是持平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/119.wav",
        "text": "而且還逐年下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/120.wav",
        "text": "這樣的微幅下降表示什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/121.wav",
        "text": "獲利期望低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/122.wav",
        "text": "啊所以農業從業人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/123.wav",
        "text": "這10年來減少了5萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/124.wav",
        "text": "關鍵原因就是農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/125.wav",
        "text": "對年輕世代的吸引力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/126.wav",
        "text": "所以農業缺工不是未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/127.wav",
        "text": "\n你們現在的農業引進外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/128.wav",
        "text": "是立意良善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/129.wav",
        "text": "規則清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/130.wav",
        "text": "但是不近現實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/131.wav",
        "text": "人數等等這個我都沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/132.wav",
        "text": "但重點是什麼叫不近事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/133.wav",
        "text": "一定要3年以上才可以申請外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/134.wav",
        "text": "大概1甲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/135.wav",
        "text": "大概就是夫妻倆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/136.wav",
        "text": "或是1個人到2個人的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/137.wav",
        "text": "作業能力就可以處理完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/138.wav",
        "text": "啊但什麼時候需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/139.wav",
        "text": "對於這個小農來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/140.wav",
        "text": "採收的時候他是需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/141.wav",
        "text": "所以本席是支持你剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/142.wav",
        "text": "然後來做外派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/143.wav",
        "text": "這個本席是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/144.wav",
        "text": "的因為你可以解決這種小農的緊急需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/145.wav",
        "text": "但是針對大農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/146.wav",
        "text": "大面積23公頃以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/147.wav",
        "text": "的大概都要跟台糖租"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/148.wav",
        "text": "你看台糖的租約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/149.wav",
        "text": "的部分長期的還勉強可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/150.wav",
        "text": "長期的是有到3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/151.wav",
        "text": "所以這叫做現實規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/152.wav",
        "text": "明顯不接地氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/153.wav",
        "text": "\n我具體要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/154.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/155.wav",
        "text": "請農業部偕同數發部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/156.wav",
        "text": "針對農金資訊公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/157.wav",
        "text": "及委外業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/158.wav",
        "text": "利用神岡農會系統轉換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/159.wav",
        "text": "如果這個行為屬實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/160.wav",
        "text": "本席要求兩件事要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/161.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/162.wav",
        "text": "農金公司撤換外包公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/163.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/164.wav",
        "text": "避免球員兼裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/165.wav",
        "text": "農金資訊公司的董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/166.wav",
        "text": "不應該由農業金庫副總兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/167.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/168.wav",
        "text": "農金資公司是誰在支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/169.wav",
        "text": "農業金庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/170.wav",
        "text": "百分百"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/171.wav",
        "text": "農業金庫是誰支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/172.wav",
        "text": "農業部跟全國的農漁會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/173.wav",
        "text": "耶我不相信全國的農漁會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/174.wav",
        "text": "農漁會都接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/175.wav",
        "text": "如果縱容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/176.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個外包公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/177.wav",
        "text": "隨意進入到任何一個農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/178.wav",
        "text": "來竊取資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/179.wav",
        "text": "所有各部門的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/180.wav",
        "text": "也都可以由外面所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/181.wav",
        "text": "任何公司來駭客你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/182.wav",
        "text": "這是何等嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/183.wav",
        "text": "所以我要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/184.wav",
        "text": "這已經是低度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/185.wav",
        "text": "喔我還沒有針對農金資公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/186.wav",
        "text": "來做處罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/187.wav",
        "text": "撤換它的外包公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/188.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可以這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/189.wav",
        "text": "商業間諜不是本席講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/190.wav",
        "text": "是我們這四個單位告訴我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/191.wav",
        "text": "還有球員兼裁判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/192.wav",
        "text": "農金資公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/193.wav",
        "text": "董事長不應該由農業金庫副總來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/194.wav",
        "text": "這是我認為應該該有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/195.wav",
        "text": "如果是屬實的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/196.wav",
        "text": "至少本席也做出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/197.wav",
        "text": "我自己該有的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/198.wav",
        "text": "你們也應該要做到該有的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/199.wav",
        "text": "這是你要回應的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/200.wav",
        "text": "農民跟農業機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/201.wav",
        "text": "有關外籍農業移工引進的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/202.wav",
        "text": "請評估以農業行為來認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/203.wav",
        "text": "或者是租地契約跟台糖一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/204.wav",
        "text": "就是改為兩年以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/205.wav",
        "text": "兩年後我就可以來聘請外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/206.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做農業行為認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/207.wav",
        "text": "譬如說我雖然這樣才兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/208.wav",
        "text": "可是我之前的租約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/209.wav",
        "text": "一樣是這塊土地的租約行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/210.wav",
        "text": "我已經租了兩年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/211.wav",
        "text": "我是不是可以合併起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/212.wav",
        "text": "就達到三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/213.wav",
        "text": "這是一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/214.wav",
        "text": "我沒改你的三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/215.wav",
        "text": "另外一種是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/216.wav",
        "text": "就是跟台糖的租約是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/217.wav",
        "text": "否則你就去協調台糖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/218.wav",
        "text": "嘛\n第三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/219.wav",
        "text": "這個是您剛才有講到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/220.wav",
        "text": "以地區農會來申請農業移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/221.wav",
        "text": "方式提供區域農業勞動力的短期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/222.wav",
        "text": "需求\n部長請你簡單回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/223.wav",
        "text": "這三個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/224.wav",
        "text": "資安農業缺工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/225.wav",
        "text": "我非常簡單的回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/226.wav",
        "text": "農金資公司跟南農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/227.wav",
        "text": "還有一些農會之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/228.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會分兩個階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/229.wav",
        "text": "第一個階段是先去釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/230.wav",
        "text": "現象是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/231.wav",
        "text": "真的如剛才委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/232.wav",
        "text": "一定會去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/233.wav",
        "text": "必要的時候我們也會請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/234.wav",
        "text": "我們也一直在鬆綁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/235.wav",
        "text": "包括您剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/236.wav",
        "text": "那個三年的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/237.wav",
        "text": "其實現在我們已經有鬆綁了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/238.wav",
        "text": "就是只要你拿出續約的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/239.wav",
        "text": "但是相對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/240.wav",
        "text": "我們會用地的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/241.wav",
        "text": "從事的行為去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/242.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會再持續檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/243.wav",
        "text": "你的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/244.wav",
        "text": "因為你的辦法很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/245.wav",
        "text": "台糖是兩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/246.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我沒有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/247.wav",
        "text": "如果你要堅持就繼續讓大農戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/248.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/249.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154330/250.wav",
        "text": "好你們會檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/0.wav",
        "text": "部長早委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/1.wav",
        "text": "部長早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/2.wav",
        "text": "國際刑警組織在6月25號經由執行委員會的投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/3.wav",
        "text": "選出了巴西的候選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/4.wav",
        "text": "伍基沙成為新一任的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/5.wav",
        "text": "而且伍基沙是以壓倒性的票數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/6.wav",
        "text": "完勝英國跟尚比亞的候選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/7.wav",
        "text": "這也是該組織有史以來第一位來自開發中國家的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/8.wav",
        "text": "伍基沙會在今年的11月正式上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/9.wav",
        "text": "他即將結束10年的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/10.wav",
        "text": "其實臺灣這麼多年以來一直都在積極爭取觀察員的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/11.wav",
        "text": "可是在2022年的時候現任的秘書長Stock"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/12.wav",
        "text": "k表示國際刑警組織只承認中華人民共和國是中國唯一的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/13.wav",
        "text": "他還說臺灣是中國的一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/14.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有辦法給予臺灣觀察員的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/15.wav",
        "text": "那時候我們外交部有表達了遺憾跟不滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/16.wav",
        "text": "新任的秘書長即將上任了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/17.wav",
        "text": "來自巴西的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/18.wav",
        "text": "在11月即將上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/19.wav",
        "text": "那臺灣是不是還會繼續爭取觀察員的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/20.wav",
        "text": "部長您認為我們有機會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/21.wav",
        "text": "最近國際情勢的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/22.wav",
        "text": "大家也在檢討2758號決議的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/23.wav",
        "text": "美國也很明確地表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/24.wav",
        "text": "其實2758號決議並沒有背書或等同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/25.wav",
        "text": "還是反映所謂的一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/26.wav",
        "text": "而世界各國跟臺灣進行交往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/27.wav",
        "text": "其實也是它的主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/28.wav",
        "text": "再來臺灣參與國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/29.wav",
        "text": "也沒有因為這個決議而有所限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/30.wav",
        "text": "所以這些都像是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/31.wav",
        "text": "我想中共在發動法律戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/32.wav",
        "text": "削弱聯合國跟週邊的組織這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/33.wav",
        "text": "也引起了一些反應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/34.wav",
        "text": "所以這個也是我們的一個機會之窗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/35.wav",
        "text": "我們就要更努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/36.wav",
        "text": "跟理念相近的國家一起來推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/37.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是會積極爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/38.wav",
        "text": "INTERPOL觀察員的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/39.wav",
        "text": "可是就像這些聲明大家都理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/40.wav",
        "text": "但似乎中國也不理會這些聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/41.wav",
        "text": "對不對而且國際刑警組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/42.wav",
        "text": "執行委員會的重要成員之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/43.wav",
        "text": "就包含了中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/44.wav",
        "text": "您覺得我們真的有機會加入嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/45.wav",
        "text": "當然要累積能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/46.wav",
        "text": "尤其是我們公共訊息的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/47.wav",
        "text": "更多人瞭解之後就發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/48.wav",
        "text": "原來中共所扭曲的第2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/49.wav",
        "text": "並沒有涉及所謂一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/50.wav",
        "text": "也沒有排除臺灣的國際組織參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/51.wav",
        "text": "也沒有限制他們跟臺灣建立外交關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/52.wav",
        "text": "所以這都需要去宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/53.wav",
        "text": "這也是當前在做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/54.wav",
        "text": "我們不斷透過各種方式去參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/55.wav",
        "text": "有意義的參與方式也非常多種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/56.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們要努力的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/57.wav",
        "text": "OK謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/58.wav",
        "text": "外交部還是要積極努力加入這些國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/59.wav",
        "text": "目前國際刑警組織有196國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/60.wav",
        "text": "包含一些極權國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/61.wav",
        "text": "而且在執行委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/62.wav",
        "text": "所以我們可能還有很長的路要走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/63.wav",
        "text": "本席是這麼認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/64.wav",
        "text": "\n過去國際刑警組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/65.wav",
        "text": "有一些讓國際人權組織覺得有非議的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/66.wav",
        "text": "也就是有一些極權國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/67.wav",
        "text": "他們透過這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/68.wav",
        "text": "國際刑警組織的紅色通緝令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/69.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不曉得新任的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/70.wav",
        "text": "他認為這些紅色追緝令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/71.wav",
        "text": "還是必須經過審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/72.wav",
        "text": "可是我們不曉得新任的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/73.wav",
        "text": "會怎麼處理這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/74.wav",
        "text": "比如像世界維吾爾大會的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/75.wav",
        "text": "沙被中國視為恐怖分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/76.wav",
        "text": "中國就向世界刑警組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/77.wav",
        "text": "\n本席講這點是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/78.wav",
        "text": "在6月21號的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/79.wav",
        "text": "中國頒布懲治臺獨的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/80.wav",
        "text": "公布懲治臺獨分裂國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/81.wav",
        "text": "煽動分裂國家等22條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/82.wav",
        "text": "如果違反分裂國家犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/83.wav",
        "text": "最重可以處死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/84.wav",
        "text": "追訴期是20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/85.wav",
        "text": "他認為這些分裂國家犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/86.wav",
        "text": "就是所稱的臺獨頑固分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/87.wav",
        "text": "臺灣有很多的政治人物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/88.wav",
        "text": "比如我們的前行政院長蘇貞昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/89.wav",
        "text": "也被點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/90.wav",
        "text": "我們的前部長吳釗燮也被點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/91.wav",
        "text": "甚至有一些媒體人也被點名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/92.wav",
        "text": "臺獨頑固分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/93.wav",
        "text": "分裂國家犯罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/94.wav",
        "text": "到第三國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/95.wav",
        "text": "來緝捕這些他口中的頑固分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/96.wav",
        "text": "我們會擔心這種事情發生嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/97.wav",
        "text": "確實要很慎重地去因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/98.wav",
        "text": "所謂的紅色通報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/99.wav",
        "text": "透過國際刑警組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/100.wav",
        "text": "這一點當然我們也有訓令外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/101.wav",
        "text": "但是因為紅色通報也不是逮捕令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/102.wav",
        "text": "主要還是要涉及到當地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/103.wav",
        "text": "這就涉及到所謂的司法互助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/104.wav",
        "text": "遣送的相關規定條約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/105.wav",
        "text": "這部分因為有一些國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/106.wav",
        "text": "跟中共簽有建交公報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/107.wav",
        "text": "或者在條約裡面涉及一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/108.wav",
        "text": "跟當地國做溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/109.wav",
        "text": "以及我們提醒國人要注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/110.wav",
        "text": "外館要協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/111.wav",
        "text": "針對這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/112.wav",
        "text": "有非常多的樣態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/113.wav",
        "text": "比如您剛提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/114.wav",
        "text": "像有關新疆維吾爾族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/115.wav",
        "text": "有一些人權人士被中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/116.wav",
        "text": "定義為所謂的以反恐的名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/117.wav",
        "text": "但是國際刑警組織"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/118.wav",
        "text": "因為過去曾經有被濫用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/119.wav",
        "text": "劣跡斑斑的事情發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/120.wav",
        "text": "臺灣不得不注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/121.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長您所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/122.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要預防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/123.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要跟國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/124.wav",
        "text": "可是到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/125.wav",
        "text": "外交部好像還沒有做這些動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/126.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/127.wav",
        "text": "我們也做過統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/128.wav",
        "text": "對於這些國家我們有已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/129.wav",
        "text": "訓令外館特別要注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/130.wav",
        "text": "就是涉及他們建交有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/131.wav",
        "text": "簽訂一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/132.wav",
        "text": "又加上司法互助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/133.wav",
        "text": "這就是第一級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/134.wav",
        "text": "我們要特別注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/135.wav",
        "text": "因為實際上真的有發生過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/136.wav",
        "text": "拘捕遣返的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/137.wav",
        "text": "雖然國際刑警組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/138.wav",
        "text": "在地國沒有逮捕令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/139.wav",
        "text": "可是我們看到的並不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/140.wav",
        "text": "不單單中國像巴林俄羅斯土耳其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/141.wav",
        "text": "都曾經濫用紅色通緝令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/142.wav",
        "text": "這一點外交部一定要非常非常的擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/143.wav",
        "text": "我們要有所規劃有所因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/144.wav",
        "text": "好我們會加強謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/145.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154331/146.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請陳永康委員上臺質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/0.wav",
        "text": "副主委早延續上次對原民會質詢的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/1.wav",
        "text": "我對於花納稅人的錢拍主委馬屁這件事情完全沒有辦法接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/2.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這樣看呢我們的賴清德總統事實上對於清廉的要求非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/3.wav",
        "text": "很早以前他就說要杜絕拍馬屁文化的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/4.wav",
        "text": "結果我們來看看我們前任的原民會主委幹了什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/5.wav",
        "text": "花了145萬納稅人的公帑出他個人成果專刊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/6.wav",
        "text": "這項個人成果專刊不是在講原民會做了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/7.wav",
        "text": "是在講他個人的豐功偉業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/8.wav",
        "text": "\n我們來看一看原住民族委員會八年施政成果專刊有沒有出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/9.wav",
        "text": "有出花了112萬頁數有221頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/10.wav",
        "text": "我手上就是八年的專刊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/11.wav",
        "text": "結果前主委夷將今年花了104十幾萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/12.wav",
        "text": "出了一本125頁的書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/13.wav",
        "text": "我當初在質詢的時候他說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/14.wav",
        "text": "他說這當然不是在推銷他個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/15.wav",
        "text": "他指責我還沒有看到他的專刊內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/16.wav",
        "text": "出版的時候會提供給我們參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/17.wav",
        "text": "現在出版了我手上就是這本書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/18.wav",
        "text": "這本書叫什麼《原權推手　承先啓後》夷將．拔路兒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/19.wav",
        "text": "這本書的作者是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/20.wav",
        "text": "請這本書的作者是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/21.wav",
        "text": "原民會這本書的作者是原民會那奇怪了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/22.wav",
        "text": "他的提名是原權推手他指的是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/23.wav",
        "text": "夷將．拔路來看看巨細靡遺描述主委的生平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/24.wav",
        "text": "125頁有40頁在吹捧他的生長求學還有原運的啟蒙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/25.wav",
        "text": "125頁中花了上百頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/26.wav",
        "text": "在介紹他的生平到各個地方去的照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/27.wav",
        "text": "這本書副主委看過沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/28.wav",
        "text": "對於這樣子內容的摘要你同不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/29.wav",
        "text": "對這本書的確是在整理過程中有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/30.wav",
        "text": "多論述他個人一些對原住民的相關奮鬥歷程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/31.wav",
        "text": "他個人啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/32.wav",
        "text": "我們花公務預算搞這種事情喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/33.wav",
        "text": "真的在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/34.wav",
        "text": "過去這八年原民會做什麼的有幾頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/35.wav",
        "text": "有幾頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/36.wav",
        "text": "我沒有記那個頁數後面還是有提到我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/37.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我幫你整理出來啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/38.wav",
        "text": "24頁的內容有哪一個項目是這本書沒寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/39.wav",
        "text": "有哪一個項目是你們之前八年成果專刊沒寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/40.wav",
        "text": "都是用磅數非常足的銅版紙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/41.wav",
        "text": "花了104十幾萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/42.wav",
        "text": "在搞個人宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/43.wav",
        "text": "我們看裡面他的原運啟蒙之路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/44.wav",
        "text": "他小時候的照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/45.wav",
        "text": "他念書時候的照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/46.wav",
        "text": "下面60頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/47.wav",
        "text": "是他到各個地方的照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/48.wav",
        "text": "這本書後面的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/49.wav",
        "text": "一本300塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/50.wav",
        "text": "原民會買了幾本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/51.wav",
        "text": "這本書一本300塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/52.wav",
        "text": "我是不相信放在書店的書架上有人會買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/53.wav",
        "text": "這本書原民會買了幾本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/54.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/55.wav",
        "text": "沒有買145萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/56.wav",
        "text": "換了幾本回去原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/57.wav",
        "text": "這個標案書出來你花了145萬嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/58.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/59.wav",
        "text": "你拿到幾本書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/60.wav",
        "text": "應該有一兩百本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/61.wav",
        "text": "一兩百本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/62.wav",
        "text": "所以一本多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/63.wav",
        "text": "145萬你拿到100本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/64.wav",
        "text": "我們不是買的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/65.wav",
        "text": "就是因為出版單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/66.wav",
        "text": "對所以你花了145萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/67.wav",
        "text": "給你100本這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/68.wav",
        "text": "公務的錢是這樣花的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/69.wav",
        "text": "平均1本1.45萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/70.wav",
        "text": "拿來吹捧主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/71.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣幹喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/72.wav",
        "text": "原民會是預算太多是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/73.wav",
        "text": "錢花不完是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/74.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣搞喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/75.wav",
        "text": "你覺得適合嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/76.wav",
        "text": "納稅的錢這樣花你覺得適合嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/77.wav",
        "text": "展現你的態度啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/78.wav",
        "text": "納稅的錢這樣花你覺得適合嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/79.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/80.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/81.wav",
        "text": "我想當初可能是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/82.wav",
        "text": "夷將主委在任內八年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/83.wav",
        "text": "的確有一些工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/84.wav",
        "text": "所以我們做了八年的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/85.wav",
        "text": "不是出過一本八年成果專刊了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/86.wav",
        "text": "長期為原住民整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/87.wav",
        "text": "所以你的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/88.wav",
        "text": "你們要為這一筆錢的花費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/89.wav",
        "text": "持續的辯護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/90.wav",
        "text": "未來還是會這樣搞是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/91.wav",
        "text": "不會不會應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/92.wav",
        "text": "不會啊你如果沒有做錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/93.wav",
        "text": "你為什麼不這樣搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/94.wav",
        "text": "每一個主委都可以出啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/95.wav",
        "text": "因為前面幾任也有做過那樣的一些整理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/96.wav",
        "text": "有搞得這麼誇張喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/97.wav",
        "text": "應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/98.wav",
        "text": "有搞得這麼誇張喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/99.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有那麼細"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/100.wav",
        "text": "來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/101.wav",
        "text": "政府機關辦理政策宣導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/102.wav",
        "text": "不可以下列方式置入性行銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/103.wav",
        "text": "不可以做首長自我宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/104.wav",
        "text": "這個有沒有違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/105.wav",
        "text": "政府機關政策文宣規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/106.wav",
        "text": "執行注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/107.wav",
        "text": "有還是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/108.wav",
        "text": "我們還是做一個政策說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/109.wav",
        "text": "你現在還在講政策說明喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/110.wav",
        "text": "125頁上百頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/111.wav",
        "text": "都是他個人的宣傳跟照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/112.wav",
        "text": "然後你現在跟我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/113.wav",
        "text": "這個是政策說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/114.wav",
        "text": "如果按照你這樣解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/115.wav",
        "text": "在做個人的宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/116.wav",
        "text": "沒有違反這個注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/117.wav",
        "text": "那請問什麼時候會違反這個注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/118.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/119.wav",
        "text": "讓我們也去檢討看看這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/120.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/121.wav",
        "text": "可以啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/122.wav",
        "text": "行政院主計總處預算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/123.wav",
        "text": "第62條之1執行原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/124.wav",
        "text": "不可以違反我剛剛所講的注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/125.wav",
        "text": "你說要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/126.wav",
        "text": "有沒有違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/127.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/128.wav",
        "text": "有沒有違反剛剛的注意事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/129.wav",
        "text": "這個錢可不可以用公帑出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/130.wav",
        "text": "還是要請夷將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/131.wav",
        "text": "自己花145萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/132.wav",
        "text": "把那100本買回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/133.wav",
        "text": "這經費可以報銷嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/134.wav",
        "text": "以後原民會還會幹這種事嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/135.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛說要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/136.wav",
        "text": "可以需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/137.wav",
        "text": "檢討不是用嘴巴講的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/138.wav",
        "text": "書面檢討報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/139.wav",
        "text": "有沒有違反規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/140.wav",
        "text": "錢經費可不可以報銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/141.wav",
        "text": "你說要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/142.wav",
        "text": "我給你時間檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/143.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/144.wav",
        "text": "一個禮拜夠不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/145.wav",
        "text": "一個月的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/146.wav",
        "text": "這種事情的檢討要檢討一個月喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/147.wav",
        "text": "原民會的效率這麼差喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/148.wav",
        "text": "這麼簡單的事情要檢討一個月喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/149.wav",
        "text": "兩個禮拜好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/150.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154333/151.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/0.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/1.wav",
        "text": "我就問你今天的質詢題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/2.wav",
        "text": "原民會的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/3.wav",
        "text": "是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/4.wav",
        "text": "你覺得今天這版本可行嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/5.wav",
        "text": "委員提出的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/6.wav",
        "text": "原民會這二十八年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/7.wav",
        "text": "針對組織法的運作過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/8.wav",
        "text": "在不同政黨執政的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/9.wav",
        "text": "其實推動都還算滿順利的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/10.wav",
        "text": "這樣順利的原因是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/11.wav",
        "text": "原民會可以理解到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/12.wav",
        "text": "原住民族朋友的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/13.wav",
        "text": "大致上來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/14.wav",
        "text": "不管是國民黨執政時期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/15.wav",
        "text": "還是民進黨執政時期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/16.wav",
        "text": "應該都是朝著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/17.wav",
        "text": "要為族人做事的方向來做的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/18.wav",
        "text": "這沒有問題嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/19.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/20.wav",
        "text": "好我們的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/21.wav",
        "text": "是山原平原都有擔任過嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/22.wav",
        "text": "都有擔任過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/23.wav",
        "text": "都有擔任過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/24.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/25.wav",
        "text": "不一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/26.wav",
        "text": "看當下最適合的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/27.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/28.wav",
        "text": "那如果是我們的副主委的話呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/29.wav",
        "text": "是山原平原都有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/30.wav",
        "text": "以前的副主委也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/31.wav",
        "text": "現在副主委有幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/32.wav",
        "text": "現在副主委有3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/33.wav",
        "text": "有3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/34.wav",
        "text": "那以現在來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/35.wav",
        "text": "現在都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/36.wav",
        "text": "現在有3位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/37.wav",
        "text": "2個政務1個常務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/38.wav",
        "text": "那他們的身分別分別是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/39.wav",
        "text": "1個平原2個山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/40.wav",
        "text": "1個平原2個山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/41.wav",
        "text": "那我們現任的主委是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/42.wav",
        "text": "曾智勇山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/43.wav",
        "text": "山原比較多耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/44.wav",
        "text": "那平原不會跳起來嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/45.wav",
        "text": "因為這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/46.wav",
        "text": "適才適所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/47.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/48.wav",
        "text": "適才適所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/49.wav",
        "text": "好我想如果照今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/50.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員的版本通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/51.wav",
        "text": "一定要輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/52.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/53.wav",
        "text": "文字裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/54.wav",
        "text": "其實有幾個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/55.wav",
        "text": "我看不太懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/56.wav",
        "text": "如果我們到時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/57.wav",
        "text": "也可能要請鄭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/58.wav",
        "text": "多說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/59.wav",
        "text": "第一他是要求輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/60.wav",
        "text": "輪流的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/61.wav",
        "text": "因為我們是政務官任命嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/62.wav",
        "text": "所以我們其實沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/63.wav",
        "text": "任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/64.wav",
        "text": "不是說做滿4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/65.wav",
        "text": "而是是行政院長的任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/66.wav",
        "text": "所以這一任下來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/67.wav",
        "text": "要輪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/68.wav",
        "text": "每一次的身分別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/69.wav",
        "text": "都一定要不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/70.wav",
        "text": "這才叫輪流吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/71.wav",
        "text": "他的條文文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/72.wav",
        "text": "應該是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/73.wav",
        "text": "你讀起來應該也是這個意思嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/74.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/75.wav",
        "text": "他說次長的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/76.wav",
        "text": "與平地原住民擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/77.wav",
        "text": "這句話是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/78.wav",
        "text": "我也看不太懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/79.wav",
        "text": "這個到底是分別擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/80.wav",
        "text": "各要有一席呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/81.wav",
        "text": "只要有山地原住民身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/82.wav",
        "text": "跟平地原住民身分就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/83.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/84.wav",
        "text": "有身分就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/85.wav",
        "text": "那就跟原條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/86.wav",
        "text": "有原住民身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/87.wav",
        "text": "其實是一樣的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/88.wav",
        "text": "這樣好像也不用修正嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/89.wav",
        "text": "他現在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/90.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/91.wav",
        "text": "如果行政院長提名之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/92.wav",
        "text": "要由全國具原住民身分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/93.wav",
        "text": "民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/94.wav",
        "text": "甚至是鄉鎮市區長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/95.wav",
        "text": "召開審查會同意後才任命之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/96.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得你有沒有跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/97.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/98.wav",
        "text": "或者去瞭解他的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/99.wav",
        "text": "這個同意是要怎麼個同意法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/100.wav",
        "text": "是要全體同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/101.wav",
        "text": "還是二分之一同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/102.wav",
        "text": "他這個同意是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/103.wav",
        "text": "你們有瞭解過嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/104.wav",
        "text": "還有現在這樣具有身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/105.wav",
        "text": "來同意的人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/106.wav",
        "text": "有多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/107.wav",
        "text": "目前我們初估大概有將近100位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/108.wav",
        "text": "不過還要再精確一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/109.wav",
        "text": "這個數字不是應該很明確嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/110.wav",
        "text": "直轄市議員有22位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/111.wav",
        "text": "縣市議員有46位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/112.wav",
        "text": "鄉鎮市區長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/113.wav",
        "text": "所以在101位裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/114.wav",
        "text": "到底要怎麼個同意法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/115.wav",
        "text": "好像也沒有理解嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/116.wav",
        "text": "然後如果我們看他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/117.wav",
        "text": "立法理由的說明裡面是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/118.wav",
        "text": "這個主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/119.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有做過地方基層官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/120.wav",
        "text": "將難以精確掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/121.wav",
        "text": "原住民族的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/122.wav",
        "text": "不利事務推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/123.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/124.wav",
        "text": "副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/125.wav",
        "text": "以你現在的角度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/126.wav",
        "text": "過去的幾位主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/127.wav",
        "text": "對馬英九任命的孫大川孫主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/128.wav",
        "text": "你覺得他怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/129.wav",
        "text": "其實孫前主委很稱職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/130.wav",
        "text": "很稱職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/131.wav",
        "text": "孫主委有做過地方基層官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/132.wav",
        "text": "或者是民意代表嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/133.wav",
        "text": "他是學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/134.wav",
        "text": "他是學者嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/135.wav",
        "text": "像孫大川這樣的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/136.wav",
        "text": "都不能夠來為原住民族服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/137.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法擔任主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/138.wav",
        "text": "這樣你同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/139.wav",
        "text": "這個是適才適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/140.wav",
        "text": "而且是院長的提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/141.wav",
        "text": "所以你到底是同意還是不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/142.wav",
        "text": "啊你一定要我像其他委員這樣問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/143.wav",
        "text": "是或否嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/144.wav",
        "text": "當然會比較狹隘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/145.wav",
        "text": "因為如果說學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/146.wav",
        "text": "對原住民事務有很多人都非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/147.wav",
        "text": "所以其實今天是這樣嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/148.wav",
        "text": "大家都非常的肯認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/149.wav",
        "text": "社會上優秀的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/150.wav",
        "text": "出身不一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/151.wav",
        "text": "行政權裡面所包含的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/152.wav",
        "text": "其實是憲法所賦予的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/153.wav",
        "text": "如果我們今天可以用這樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/154.wav",
        "text": "行政院長要任命的原民會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/155.wav",
        "text": "代表來做同意才可以任命上任的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/156.wav",
        "text": "那我今天是不是也可以要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/157.wav",
        "text": "內政部長以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/158.wav",
        "text": "也應該要有全臺灣各縣市首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/159.wav",
        "text": "及各鄉鎮首長區長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/160.wav",
        "text": "大家一起來投票同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/161.wav",
        "text": "同意之後才可以上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/162.wav",
        "text": "教育部長也是由全國小學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/163.wav",
        "text": "國中高中大學的校長都來同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/164.wav",
        "text": "乾脆連校長都要全體學生同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/165.wav",
        "text": "這樣難道不會亂了套嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/166.wav",
        "text": "在表示這個意見的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/167.wav",
        "text": "其實你們說得很委婉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/168.wav",
        "text": "但是第一這是憲法層次的行政權的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/169.wav",
        "text": "其實不應該照最近的這種氛圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/170.wav",
        "text": "又是剝奪行政權裡面的人事權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/171.wav",
        "text": "又是剝奪行政院裡面的預算配置權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/172.wav",
        "text": "這都是在削弱行政權的一種手法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/173.wav",
        "text": "甚至我必須說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/174.wav",
        "text": "有那麼多族有16族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/175.wav",
        "text": "啊那你為什麼不乾脆規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/176.wav",
        "text": "由16族的族人朋友輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/177.wav",
        "text": "乾脆這樣規定好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/178.wav",
        "text": "這樣不是更公平嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/179.wav",
        "text": "我覺得在某個程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/180.wav",
        "text": "上像我們平時這麼支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/181.wav",
        "text": "原住民朋友權益的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/182.wav",
        "text": "障今天叫我們站在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/183.wav",
        "text": "然後如果因為我這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/184.wav",
        "text": "反對他這個粗糙的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/185.wav",
        "text": "就把我說成是打壓人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/186.wav",
        "text": "那我反而會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/187.wav",
        "text": "你這個其實是在挑撥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/188.wav",
        "text": "原住民族人朋友之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/189.wav",
        "text": "甚至和整體社會之間的一個情緒而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/190.wav",
        "text": "嘛我們是立法委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/191.wav",
        "text": "應該是要看法條訂得好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/192.wav",
        "text": "合不合理合不合憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/193.wav",
        "text": "不應該是這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/194.wav",
        "text": "我希望如果進入逐條的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/195.wav",
        "text": "你們對於所有的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/196.wav",
        "text": "現實上的窒礙難行之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/197.wav",
        "text": "以及法條的不完備處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/198.wav",
        "text": "要能夠比今天的書面報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/199.wav",
        "text": "講得更清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/200.wav",
        "text": "因為這顯然是一個違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/201.wav",
        "text": "違憲的條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/202.wav",
        "text": "不應該這樣修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/203.wav",
        "text": "這樣才是真正守護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/204.wav",
        "text": "原住民族朋友的優秀人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/205.wav",
        "text": "可以來適才適所擔任主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/206.wav",
        "text": "以及擔任副主委這些官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/207.wav",
        "text": "這些政務官的資格和機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/208.wav",
        "text": "你是在替優秀人才守護機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/209.wav",
        "text": "這一點一定要大聲說出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/210.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/211.wav",
        "text": "謝謝副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154334/212.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/0.wav",
        "text": "主席好有請外交部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/2.wav",
        "text": "部長您好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/3.wav",
        "text": "聽取您早上的重點報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/4.wav",
        "text": "以及我先前看過您的分析事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/5.wav",
        "text": "有關於如何運用友我的國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/6.wav",
        "text": "協助我們參加更多的國際活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/7.wav",
        "text": "甚至有些聯合國的外圍組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/8.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠加入成為觀察員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/9.wav",
        "text": "在立論的著眼上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/10.wav",
        "text": "我們是完全支持部裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/11.wav",
        "text": "但我們也用一些不同的角度來做分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/12.wav",
        "text": "並提出一些建言"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/13.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/14.wav",
        "text": "由政府籌劃與資助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/15.wav",
        "text": "或者半官方組織民間團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/16.wav",
        "text": "共同努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/17.wav",
        "text": "但是因為做法不同調"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/18.wav",
        "text": "成果的累積有些不容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/19.wav",
        "text": "我們現在提出了以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/20.wav",
        "text": "國家安全戰略為基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/21.wav",
        "text": "積極來指導參與國際組織的方法論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/22.wav",
        "text": "是以國際的聲援為本"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/23.wav",
        "text": "它的實質支持為實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/24.wav",
        "text": "因為要有國家安全戰略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/25.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的資源分配才適宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/26.wav",
        "text": "協商順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/27.wav",
        "text": "施政同步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/28.wav",
        "text": "法制周全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/29.wav",
        "text": "策略易行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/30.wav",
        "text": "政策可以連續性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/31.wav",
        "text": "我們的重點是宣揚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/32.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的公益意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/33.wav",
        "text": "精準發揮臺灣的優勢能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/34.wav",
        "text": "與資源的襄助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/35.wav",
        "text": "融合社會與民間來共同努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/36.wav",
        "text": "\n現在看到您的那幾篇報告裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/37.wav",
        "text": "我們提出的建言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/38.wav",
        "text": "強調建議二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/39.wav",
        "text": "就是現在臺大已經宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/40.wav",
        "text": "創立NGO的人才學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/41.wav",
        "text": "跟臺大合作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/42.wav",
        "text": "可以採取多點的培養"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/43.wav",
        "text": "NGO的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/44.wav",
        "text": "僅限於你們自己部內的人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/45.wav",
        "text": "外交部建立一個強大的團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/46.wav",
        "text": "\n如何運用國際友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/47.wav",
        "text": "加入聯合國相關組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/48.wav",
        "text": "是今年11月的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/49.wav",
        "text": "聚焦在2025年的全球氣候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/50.wav",
        "text": "融資的目標"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/51.wav",
        "text": "我們根據美國海洋大氣總署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/52.wav",
        "text": "NOAA的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/53.wav",
        "text": "如果現在失去控制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/54.wav",
        "text": "在2100年本世紀前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/55.wav",
        "text": "海平面會上升3.5到7英尺"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/56.wav",
        "text": "也就是平均2公尺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/57.wav",
        "text": "甚至更深"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/58.wav",
        "text": "這個時候影響到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/59.wav",
        "text": "不只是美國的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/60.wav",
        "text": "甚至倫敦香港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/61.wav",
        "text": "我們的高雄臺北一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/62.wav",
        "text": "這個問題是非常嚴肅的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/63.wav",
        "text": "但是在氣候變遷的控制上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/64.wav",
        "text": "美國跟中國大陸在這個上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/65.wav",
        "text": "他們是採取合作的態度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/66.wav",
        "text": "我們雖然不是聯合國的成員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/67.wav",
        "text": "但是在抗暖化氣候融資的目標議題上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/68.wav",
        "text": "我們應該表達我們積極的態度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/69.wav",
        "text": "跟合作的立場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/70.wav",
        "text": "尤其是在南太平洋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/71.wav",
        "text": "這些島國貧窮國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/72.wav",
        "text": "因為海洋上升"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/73.wav",
        "text": "這些國家就被淹掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/74.wav",
        "text": "可能不只是與我們友好的富裕國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/75.wav",
        "text": "要融入一個共同融資合作的機會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/76.wav",
        "text": "也要照顧到南太平洋的友邦國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/77.wav",
        "text": "這是美國的內政問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/78.wav",
        "text": "但是會影響到我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/79.wav",
        "text": "就是川普強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/80.wav",
        "text": "石化燃料在美國內政政策的重要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/81.wav",
        "text": "他認為減低美國能源對外依賴是重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/82.wav",
        "text": "所以川普的能源革命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/83.wav",
        "text": "跟拜登2050年的淨零排放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/84.wav",
        "text": "這兩個是完全相反的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/85.wav",
        "text": "所以在11月5號的結果出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/86.wav",
        "text": "我們必須面對如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/87.wav",
        "text": "針對下一個美國總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/88.wav",
        "text": "氣候變遷組織有不同的想法上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/89.wav",
        "text": "我們要有一個調節的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/90.wav",
        "text": "論述的方法論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/91.wav",
        "text": "這是前天我在美國NOAA的圖上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/92.wav",
        "text": "就是6月25號的海平面上的氣溫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/93.wav",
        "text": "都已經到了25到30度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/94.wav",
        "text": "如果氣溫升高兩米"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/95.wav",
        "text": "圖左邊是高雄港周圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/96.wav",
        "text": "愛河周圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/97.wav",
        "text": "還有屏東大部分的濱海地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/98.wav",
        "text": "都被水淹沒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/99.wav",
        "text": "在右邊這張圖是新北市跟臺北市"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/100.wav",
        "text": "新北市的臺北港都淹掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/101.wav",
        "text": "另外沿著淡水河進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/102.wav",
        "text": "可以看到在新北市的蘆洲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/103.wav",
        "text": "統統都被水淹了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/104.wav",
        "text": "這個不只是我們面對的挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/105.wav",
        "text": "事實上對國外的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/106.wav",
        "text": "友我的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/107.wav",
        "text": "我們可以形成一個共同的論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/108.wav",
        "text": "\n另外有關國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/109.wav",
        "text": "剛才在您的報告裡面提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/110.wav",
        "text": "希望友人的合作協助參加ICAO"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/111.wav",
        "text": "我建議再增加兩個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/112.wav",
        "text": "除了ICAO以外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/113.wav",
        "text": "還有IMO國際海事組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/114.wav",
        "text": "International Hydrographic Organization"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/115.wav",
        "text": "因為中共最近在臺海周遭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/116.wav",
        "text": "實施灰色地帶的這種演習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/117.wav",
        "text": "不動武的威懾消耗戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/118.wav",
        "text": "如果我們的民航組織發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/119.wav",
        "text": "它干擾了民航機的航線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/120.wav",
        "text": "或是干擾了海上民航航運的航線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/121.wav",
        "text": "這都可以透過我們的友好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/122.wav",
        "text": "友我的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/123.wav",
        "text": "向這幾個單位表達我們的關切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/124.wav",
        "text": "希望喚起國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/125.wav",
        "text": "對維護臺海周遭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/126.wav",
        "text": "以及國際和平的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/127.wav",
        "text": "以上報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/128.wav",
        "text": "非常謝謝委員寶貴的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/129.wav",
        "text": "我們會把它特別納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/130.wav",
        "text": "特別是IMO相關的國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/131.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/132.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154335/133.wav",
        "text": "接下來請黃仁委員上臺質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我是不是請一下陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/1.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/2.wav",
        "text": "部長早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/3.wav",
        "text": "這個問題其實我們過去在委員會裡也討論過相當多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/4.wav",
        "text": "了部長我讓您看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/5.wav",
        "text": "這個是我稍微整理了一下我們整個農業移工開放的歷程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/6.wav",
        "text": "包括初期開放試辦時只有開放800人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/7.wav",
        "text": "他們其實是就可以申請移工的人數一直到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/8.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這裡面有一個比較重要的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/9.wav",
        "text": "我想剛剛部長的報告裡頭也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/10.wav",
        "text": "就是現在我們的名額是1.2萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/11.wav",
        "text": "但是已申請進來大概是有多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/12.wav",
        "text": "8005百多人大概七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/13.wav",
        "text": "七成好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/14.wav",
        "text": "所以你們預估到今年年底這1.2萬就會全部用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/15.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/16.wav",
        "text": "那接下來怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/17.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告現在我們已經啟動一個機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/18.wav",
        "text": "像現在已經達到七成的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/19.wav",
        "text": "其實我們已經在調查現在外面需要的大概是8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/20.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不會等到沒有的時候才開始向勞動部申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/21.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就會啟動一個機制去跟勞動部申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/22.wav",
        "text": "所以你們已經開始要跟勞動部談了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/23.wav",
        "text": "開始談了沒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/24.wav",
        "text": "我們希望在年底之前能夠銜接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/25.wav",
        "text": "不會說有個空窗期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/26.wav",
        "text": "看起來是沒有包含農業移工這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/27.wav",
        "text": "我覺得或許可以跟勞動部再談一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/28.wav",
        "text": "部長我要跟您講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/29.wav",
        "text": "的是我們在講農業缺工的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/30.wav",
        "text": "我現在就只舉美濃農會在申請這些農業移工的現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/31.wav",
        "text": "因為在美濃種野蓮的量非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/32.wav",
        "text": "所以美濃農會一共跟農業部申請了5次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/33.wav",
        "text": "總共核准了97人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/34.wav",
        "text": "這中間大概有逃逸3個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/35.wav",
        "text": "我要給部長看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/36.wav",
        "text": "現在申請農業移工看起來沒有那麼困難跟複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/37.wav",
        "text": "現在我們所有移工都必須符合臺灣的勞基法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/38.wav",
        "text": "勞基法有規定工時跟最低的薪資比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/39.wav",
        "text": "這個是現在我們統計出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/40.wav",
        "text": "的如果就今年度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/41.wav",
        "text": "申請一個移工他的薪水大概要付到將近4萬3,000元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/42.wav",
        "text": "快要比本國的勞工還要高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/43.wav",
        "text": "而且還要負擔他的食宿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/44.wav",
        "text": "\n對於野蓮我只講單一個產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/45.wav",
        "text": "野蓮今年的市場拍賣價格其實是不好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/46.wav",
        "text": "所以請一個移工來基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/47.wav",
        "text": "已經快要沒有辦法負擔這個移工的薪水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/48.wav",
        "text": "包括工時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/49.wav",
        "text": "不是從早上9點到下午5點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/50.wav",
        "text": "很容易計算工時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/51.wav",
        "text": "常常有可能是必須在清晨天沒有亮以前就開始工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/52.wav",
        "text": "中間像現在太陽這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/53.wav",
        "text": "的時候其實是沒有辦法工作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/54.wav",
        "text": "到下午56點太陽下山了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/55.wav",
        "text": "又再持續他下一個階段的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/56.wav",
        "text": "所以他的工時計算也會產生問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/57.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/58.wav",
        "text": "農業部跟勞動部之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/59.wav",
        "text": "有沒有想出一個比較能夠合理解決的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/60.wav",
        "text": "你說像現在的工資提高到這麼高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/61.wav",
        "text": "對農民來講是一個很沉重的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/62.wav",
        "text": "他要申請外勞也不是不申請也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/63.wav",
        "text": "好這個外勞進來了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/64.wav",
        "text": "很多時候比如說像種野蓮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/65.wav",
        "text": "我們還必須跟他講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/66.wav",
        "text": "這個是要泡在水裡一整天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/67.wav",
        "text": "所以美濃逃跑的那3個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/68.wav",
        "text": "人基本上是因為無法適應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/69.wav",
        "text": "所以才逃跑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/70.wav",
        "text": "今年年底我們有訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/71.wav",
        "text": "所以你的農業移工來到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/72.wav",
        "text": "要搭配什麼樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/73.wav",
        "text": "搭配什麼樣的產物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/74.wav",
        "text": "必須都要經過一些訓練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/75.wav",
        "text": "嘛這些訓練也不是立刻可以上手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/76.wav",
        "text": "所以如何讓他們在來之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/77.wav",
        "text": "充分瞭解他要協助的農作品項是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/78.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也是一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/79.wav",
        "text": "這個本席大概也講過很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/80.wav",
        "text": "了中南部有非常多的外配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/81.wav",
        "text": "如果我們能夠讓這一些外配的親人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/82.wav",
        "text": "來到臺灣依親打工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/83.wav",
        "text": "我不知道我過去提出這樣一個政策想法的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/84.wav",
        "text": "農業部有沒有思考過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/85.wav",
        "text": "就我的瞭解過去是被勞動部打槍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/86.wav",
        "text": "啦但是其實我們剛剛講到的這些農業的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/87.wav",
        "text": "外配的親人能夠來到臺灣依親打工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/88.wav",
        "text": "對於薪資給付的負擔將會大幅減輕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/89.wav",
        "text": "更重要的是這個外配在他的家庭裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/90.wav",
        "text": "找他的家人來協助他嫁過來的家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/91.wav",
        "text": "其實相對來講他在這個家庭的地位是會大幅提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/92.wav",
        "text": "的然後也能夠完整的協助這些農事作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/93.wav",
        "text": "部長您怎麼看我提出來這樣一個建議方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/94.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的這些關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/95.wav",
        "text": "我想這有幾個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/96.wav",
        "text": "其實農業部現在是符合勞基"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/97.wav",
        "text": "勞基法的四週"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/98.wav",
        "text": "所以已經不受限在週休二日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/99.wav",
        "text": "他是可以在四週裡面去做一個彈性的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/100.wav",
        "text": "勞動部已經把農業部納入了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/101.wav",
        "text": "薪資的部分的確就如委員所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/102.wav",
        "text": "他的薪資水平快要跟本國的一樣高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/103.wav",
        "text": "然後還要負擔住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/104.wav",
        "text": "已經快要比本國人高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/105.wav",
        "text": "對還要負擔住的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/106.wav",
        "text": "如果以一個面積不大的小農來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/107.wav",
        "text": "可能負擔非常重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/108.wav",
        "text": "強化所謂外展的這種機能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/109.wav",
        "text": "但是部長你要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/110.wav",
        "text": "我們現在透過所謂外展功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/111.wav",
        "text": "大部分的農會都不會願意做這樣的配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/112.wav",
        "text": "因為他要負擔的安全成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/113.wav",
        "text": "其實是遠高過你的想像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/114.wav",
        "text": "對另外還有一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/115.wav",
        "text": "我們現在在努力去調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/116.wav",
        "text": "十人以上的農場的核配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/117.wav",
        "text": "你如果有一個類似合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/118.wav",
        "text": "共同經營的模式的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/119.wav",
        "text": "大家一起分擔這樣的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/120.wav",
        "text": "可能它的效率會比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/121.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/122.wav",
        "text": "您講的這些都是現在已經在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/123.wav",
        "text": "合作社等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/124.wav",
        "text": "他們能夠來申請這些外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/125.wav",
        "text": "如果他的核配比不行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/126.wav",
        "text": "就是三比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/127.wav",
        "text": "對嘛所以這部分其實還是少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/128.wav",
        "text": "想辦法變成一比好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/129.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠變成一比一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/130.wav",
        "text": "一當然是一個德政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/131.wav",
        "text": "依親打工這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/132.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/133.wav",
        "text": "可以認真的思考依"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/134.wav",
        "text": "依親打工以農業部來講是非常贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/135.wav",
        "text": "我們也跟勞動部溝通了非常久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/136.wav",
        "text": "基本上現在的問題是卡在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/137.wav",
        "text": "勞動部說這樣依親打工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/138.wav",
        "text": "還是要照原來的遊戲規則走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/139.wav",
        "text": "用現在的遊戲規則去走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/140.wav",
        "text": "而且是在我們的總配額裡面去扣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/141.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣反而沒有幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/142.wav",
        "text": "你是說照我們原來申請外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/143.wav",
        "text": "我覺得勞動部這個思維太過僵化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/144.wav",
        "text": "沒有我們還會去跟他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/145.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會跟他溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/146.wav",
        "text": "他就會知道田間的需求有多高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/147.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠用依親打工的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/148.wav",
        "text": "其實可以解決很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/149.wav",
        "text": "包括外展移工沒有辦法做到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/150.wav",
        "text": "解決很多這些相對的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/151.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可能應該要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/152.wav",
        "text": "帶勞動部的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/153.wav",
        "text": "直接到我們田間去觀摩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/154.wav",
        "text": "去學習去看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/155.wav",
        "text": "我想我會跟何佩珊部長討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/156.wav",
        "text": "然後必要的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/157.wav",
        "text": "也會邀請他們到現場去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/158.wav",
        "text": "實際的情況他們就能夠瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/159.wav",
        "text": "這個我們會繼續努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154336/160.wav",
        "text": "是好OK謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/2.wav",
        "text": "我們就教賴清德總統的新兩國論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/3.wav",
        "text": "在賴總統就職演說提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/4.wav",
        "text": "中華民國與中華人民共和國是互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/5.wav",
        "text": "並於陸軍官校百年校慶時再次的重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/6.wav",
        "text": "堅持中華民國和中華人民共和國互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/7.wav",
        "text": "請問一下部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/8.wav",
        "text": "你認同賴總統的說法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/9.wav",
        "text": "認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/10.wav",
        "text": "好所以部長同意這個兩國論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/11.wav",
        "text": "我們今天就談到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/12.wav",
        "text": "賴總統的論述是在偷換概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/13.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/14.wav",
        "text": "刻意把治權和主權混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/15.wav",
        "text": "讓臺獨可以借中華民國的殼上市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/16.wav",
        "text": "借殼上市本席同意兩岸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/17.wav",
        "text": "當然是互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/18.wav",
        "text": "但是在治權方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/19.wav",
        "text": "本席特別強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/20.wav",
        "text": "在法理上依據中華民國憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/21.wav",
        "text": "中華民國才有主權的代表性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/22.wav",
        "text": "所謂中華人民共和國是不具有主權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/23.wav",
        "text": "在外交部代表中華民國處理對外事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/24.wav",
        "text": "因此本席相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/25.wav",
        "text": "我們的所有外交人員都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/26.wav",
        "text": "外交代表的就是中華民國主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/27.wav",
        "text": "這個法理上是很明顯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/28.wav",
        "text": "賴政府在國會改革法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/29.wav",
        "text": "口口聲聲說要依據憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/30.wav",
        "text": "但在國家主權上反而一點都不尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/31.wav",
        "text": "中華民國的憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/32.wav",
        "text": "根本是把憲法當玩物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/33.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/34.wav",
        "text": "你認同我的想法還是你還有別的見解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/35.wav",
        "text": "因為主權跟治權這種劃分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/36.wav",
        "text": "是我們臺灣教科書上這樣寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/37.wav",
        "text": "事實上主權在民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/38.wav",
        "text": "這個是民主最重要的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/39.wav",
        "text": "所以臺灣人民選出我們的政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/40.wav",
        "text": "包括總統跟國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/41.wav",
        "text": "的至於涉及到所謂的互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/42.wav",
        "text": "是不是因為主權治權的差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/43.wav",
        "text": "這些理論有點複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/44.wav",
        "text": "我覺得還是回到最根本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/45.wav",
        "text": "主權在所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/46.wav",
        "text": "部長今天我講兩國論的思維裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/47.wav",
        "text": "治權和主權混淆也沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/48.wav",
        "text": "本席按照賴總統的思路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/49.wav",
        "text": "請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/50.wav",
        "text": "既然是兩國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/51.wav",
        "text": "部長是不是應該建議賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/52.wav",
        "text": "把大陸委員會裁掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/53.wav",
        "text": "並將陸委會併入到外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/54.wav",
        "text": "設立外交部中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/55.wav",
        "text": "我想外交部就代表我們國家主權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/56.wav",
        "text": "因為兩岸關係很特殊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/57.wav",
        "text": "所以我們有設立大陸事務委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/58.wav",
        "text": "來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/59.wav",
        "text": "我們某種程度是承認它啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/60.wav",
        "text": "因為在臺灣民主化之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/61.wav",
        "text": "其實我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/62.wav",
        "text": "但是它沒有承認我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/63.wav",
        "text": "今天我們要分析一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/64.wav",
        "text": "這個很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/65.wav",
        "text": "外交部主要負責的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/66.wav",
        "text": "國與國之間的對外事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/67.wav",
        "text": "陸委會負責的是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/68.wav",
        "text": "臺灣地區與大陸地區的內部事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/69.wav",
        "text": "既然部長認同賴總統的兩國論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/70.wav",
        "text": "那就應該要有所作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/71.wav",
        "text": "把大陸委員會併入到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/72.wav",
        "text": "有沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/73.wav",
        "text": "因為這涉及憲改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/74.wav",
        "text": "可能要朝野來協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/75.wav",
        "text": "然後溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/76.wav",
        "text": "應該可以協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/77.wav",
        "text": "今天我提出這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/78.wav",
        "text": "這涉及到憲改層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/79.wav",
        "text": "我們應該要朝這個方向來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/80.wav",
        "text": "今天兩國之間僵硬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/81.wav",
        "text": "到現在沒有一個談判的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/82.wav",
        "text": "所以你說大陸委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/83.wav",
        "text": "有沒有必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/84.wav",
        "text": "要併入你們外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/85.wav",
        "text": "因為外交部是負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/86.wav",
        "text": "國與國之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/87.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/88.wav",
        "text": "不過我跟委員講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/89.wav",
        "text": "因為我們承認它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/90.wav",
        "text": "它不承認我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/91.wav",
        "text": "它如果願意跟外交部交往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/92.wav",
        "text": "我們也是很願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/93.wav",
        "text": "啊可是它不願意跟我們交往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/94.wav",
        "text": "我們永遠承認兩岸之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/95.wav",
        "text": "但是是臺灣不承認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/96.wav",
        "text": "我們只有承認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/97.wav",
        "text": "美國跟日本的關係而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/98.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以這個就是一個思維的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/99.wav",
        "text": "我們本是同根生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/100.wav",
        "text": "我們跟對岸之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/101.wav",
        "text": "本來就有這一層的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/102.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一直不承認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/103.wav",
        "text": "所以這就是我要講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/104.wav",
        "text": "因為這個論述裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/105.wav",
        "text": "我是以臺灣原住民身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/106.wav",
        "text": "去看待兩岸之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/107.wav",
        "text": "不是要用你們的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/108.wav",
        "text": "去看待兩岸之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/109.wav",
        "text": "我要告訴部長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/110.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/111.wav",
        "text": "上次有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/112.wav",
        "text": "我特別提到原住民在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/113.wav",
        "text": "南島語系的民主裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/114.wav",
        "text": "我希望未來推派無任所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/115.wav",
        "text": "而且有學術理論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/116.wav",
        "text": "對外交未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/117.wav",
        "text": "對原住民事務有推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/118.wav",
        "text": "有助於國家邦交的前提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/119.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/120.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/121.wav",
        "text": "我一定來尋才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/122.wav",
        "text": "請委員可以推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/123.wav",
        "text": "我們一起來找出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/124.wav",
        "text": "最能夠讓原住民外交發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/125.wav",
        "text": "的人才因為臺灣確實有這樣的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/126.wav",
        "text": "可以做包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/127.wav",
        "text": "海島或南島語系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/128.wav",
        "text": "系相當多原住民事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/129.wav",
        "text": "我們是可以很積極的來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/130.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/131.wav",
        "text": "這一點我絕對相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/132.wav",
        "text": "你有這個能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/133.wav",
        "text": "一直以來到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/134.wav",
        "text": "你從外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/135.wav",
        "text": "新聞局到市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/136.wav",
        "text": "到總統府的秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/137.wav",
        "text": "我絕對相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/138.wav",
        "text": "你可以在不分族群的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/139.wav",
        "text": "找出一個能人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/140.wav",
        "text": "找出一個人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/141.wav",
        "text": "為國家奉獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/142.wav",
        "text": "而不是以政黨的角度來看待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/143.wav",
        "text": "派任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/144.wav",
        "text": "今天不要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/145.wav",
        "text": "你們的內閣是一個外星人內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/146.wav",
        "text": "原民會主委到現在一問三不知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/147.wav",
        "text": "我根本不要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/148.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/149.wav",
        "text": "人民失望啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/150.wav",
        "text": "原住民的國人失望啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/151.wav",
        "text": "啦這個就是你們要思考的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/152.wav",
        "text": "另外就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/153.wav",
        "text": "我們駐美大使人格操守的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/154.wav",
        "text": "爆料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/155.wav",
        "text": "挪用公款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/156.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個國際事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/157.wav",
        "text": "已經造成我們外交部的形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/158.wav",
        "text": "而且要如何提振外交部的形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/159.wav",
        "text": "今天俞大㵢大使所陳述的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/160.wav",
        "text": "他是不是要自我澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/161.wav",
        "text": "你們要找出一個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/162.wav",
        "text": "如果我們誣賴他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/163.wav",
        "text": "就還他清白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/164.wav",
        "text": "如果是他挪用公款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/165.wav",
        "text": "你們絕對要跟國人有交代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/166.wav",
        "text": "因為你們外交部的形象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/167.wav",
        "text": "要樹立起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/168.wav",
        "text": "不要讓人說外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/169.wav",
        "text": "派駐的人員是浪費公帑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/170.wav",
        "text": "部長回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/171.wav",
        "text": "目前是沒有挪用公款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/172.wav",
        "text": "啦但是因為採購的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/173.wav",
        "text": "有些項目有核可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/174.wav",
        "text": "有些沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/175.wav",
        "text": "而核可的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/176.wav",
        "text": "外界有一些質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/177.wav",
        "text": "我們要妥善說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/178.wav",
        "text": "已經有共同提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/179.wav",
        "text": "希望在兩個禮拜以內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/180.wav",
        "text": "請他回來做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/181.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154337/182.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/0.wav",
        "text": "上一次你們回函說超思的案子已經移送北檢了請問什麼時候移送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/1.wav",
        "text": "我如果沒有記錯的話是5月底6月初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/2.wav",
        "text": "5月底6月初的時候我記得是這樣如果我沒有記錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/3.wav",
        "text": "行政調查報告什麼時候做出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/4.wav",
        "text": "行政調查報告的過程大概在沒有最後的定版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/5.wav",
        "text": "大概在5月的應該是7號前後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/6.wav",
        "text": "所以你們有一個定版完整的行政調查報告嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/7.wav",
        "text": "對就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/8.wav",
        "text": "好定版的行政調查報告什麼時候可以交出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/9.wav",
        "text": "對不起我沒有聽清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/10.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你不是說到5月的時候有一個定版的行政調查報告嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/11.wav",
        "text": "那份行政調查報告什麼時候可以交出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/12.wav",
        "text": "我們提供給委員的就是行政調查報告但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/13.wav",
        "text": "因為部分沒有部分的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/14.wav",
        "text": "我們已經移請地檢署調查的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/15.wav",
        "text": "我們把時序先講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/16.wav",
        "text": "你行政調查報告完整做完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/17.wav",
        "text": "然後你接下來移送北檢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/18.wav",
        "text": "現在交出來的行政調查報告只有部分的內容對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/19.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/20.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不提供完整的行政調查報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/21.wav",
        "text": "你說會涉及到偵查不公開然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/22.wav",
        "text": "然後我秀給你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/23.wav",
        "text": "當初在處理88會館事件的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/24.wav",
        "text": "一樣有刑事偵辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/25.wav",
        "text": "我們的高檢署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/26.wav",
        "text": "新北地檢署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/27.wav",
        "text": "內政部警政署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/28.wav",
        "text": "完整的行政調查報告全部都交出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/29.wav",
        "text": "為什麼農業部的作法不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/30.wav",
        "text": "難道我們的高檢署地檢署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/31.wav",
        "text": "我們的內政部所交出來的行政調查報告都是違法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/32.wav",
        "text": "你還是堅持不交就對了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/33.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告別的部會我不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/34.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們是根據政府公開資訊法裡面的相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/35.wav",
        "text": "你有你的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/36.wav",
        "text": "你的主張站不站得住腳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/37.wav",
        "text": "我們以後會繼續追下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/38.wav",
        "text": "今天時間的關係我還有很多問題要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/39.wav",
        "text": "你們的次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/40.wav",
        "text": "跟媒體說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/41.wav",
        "text": "日本進口的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/42.wav",
        "text": "沒有行政的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/43.wav",
        "text": "結果話才講完一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/44.wav",
        "text": "你們就公開承認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/45.wav",
        "text": "裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/46.wav",
        "text": "最起碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/47.wav",
        "text": "就有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/48.wav",
        "text": "倉儲的部分運輸的部分違反了政府採購法對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/49.wav",
        "text": "針對倉儲跟運輸的部分他是應該進行那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/50.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是違反政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/51.wav",
        "text": "對是違反政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/52.wav",
        "text": "錢你會追50%回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/53.wav",
        "text": "對錢會追回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/54.wav",
        "text": "好針對2022年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/55.wav",
        "text": "超思進口雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/56.wav",
        "text": "超思的服務費付了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/57.wav",
        "text": "111年嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/58.wav",
        "text": "對2022年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/59.wav",
        "text": "111年並沒有服務費的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/60.wav",
        "text": "沒有服務費的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/61.wav",
        "text": "有合約的時候才有服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/62.wav",
        "text": "沒有合約的話是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/63.wav",
        "text": "到貨買斷的方式去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/64.wav",
        "text": "到貨買斷的價格怎麼計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/65.wav",
        "text": "到貨買斷的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/66.wav",
        "text": "因為每個月都有的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/67.wav",
        "text": "他會根據當月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/68.wav",
        "text": "跟我們國內的相關資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/69.wav",
        "text": "包括它的關稅等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/70.wav",
        "text": "去做一個綜合評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/71.wav",
        "text": "怎麼評估的數據可不可以交出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/72.wav",
        "text": "我想這部分是一個相關的執行細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/73.wav",
        "text": "他那個評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/74.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/75.wav",
        "text": "你現在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/76.wav",
        "text": "沒有付超思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/77.wav",
        "text": "那我現在的問題就在想說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/78.wav",
        "text": "原來超思是在做功德的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/79.wav",
        "text": "那個價格裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/80.wav",
        "text": "超思從日本進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/81.wav",
        "text": "一公斤均價多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/82.wav",
        "text": "一公斤均價多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/83.wav",
        "text": "我不是非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/84.wav",
        "text": "一公斤的均價大概124塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/85.wav",
        "text": "124塊這個價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/86.wav",
        "text": "到底怎麼出來的它的成本結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/87.wav",
        "text": "細項可不可以交出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/88.wav",
        "text": "我不是非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/89.wav",
        "text": "因為他們本身是買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/90.wav",
        "text": "那買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/91.wav",
        "text": "他們的經費是有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/92.wav",
        "text": "淨重多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/93.wav",
        "text": "發票的價格多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/94.wav",
        "text": "除完了大概就是一公斤多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/95.wav",
        "text": "你現在講說裡面沒有服務費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/96.wav",
        "text": "那現在我就在質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/97.wav",
        "text": "現在大家在問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/98.wav",
        "text": "就是在一公斤124塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/99.wav",
        "text": "裡面超思拿了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/100.wav",
        "text": "這個也不能問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/101.wav",
        "text": "我們付給相關的每一批蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/102.wav",
        "text": "不管是任何的貿易商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/103.wav",
        "text": "我們都會給他一筆經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/104.wav",
        "text": "有經費的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/105.wav",
        "text": "大家在關心的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/106.wav",
        "text": "那個價格到底怎麼決定的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/107.wav",
        "text": "你到現在我跟你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/108.wav",
        "text": "它的價格不是一個公式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/109.wav",
        "text": "那個價格絕對不是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/110.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/111.wav",
        "text": "那你總要有一個決定價格的機制吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/112.wav",
        "text": "有有一個機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/113.wav",
        "text": "好那決定價格的機制內容可不可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/114.wav",
        "text": "還是也涉及偵查不公開也不能提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/115.wav",
        "text": "就我所瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/116.wav",
        "text": "決定的機制是可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/117.wav",
        "text": "一定有一個決定的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/118.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/119.wav",
        "text": "這個我要問畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/120.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/121.wav",
        "text": "一個禮拜可以吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/122.wav",
        "text": "應該可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/123.wav",
        "text": "錢早就付了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/124.wav",
        "text": "因為你一開始口口聲聲跟大家講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/125.wav",
        "text": "只有超思有能力進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/126.wav",
        "text": "這個是你當初在回答的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/127.wav",
        "text": "答復的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/128.wav",
        "text": "然後你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/129.wav",
        "text": "來來來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/130.wav",
        "text": "如果你去問其他的蛋商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/131.wav",
        "text": "沒有一個人不認識他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/132.wav",
        "text": "過往本身有他的一個能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/133.wav",
        "text": "這個是你們白紙黑字寫的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/134.wav",
        "text": "欸沒有其他的貿易商有能力進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/135.wav",
        "text": "這是你們講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/136.wav",
        "text": "白紙黑字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/137.wav",
        "text": "來我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/138.wav",
        "text": "這個是從關務署調出來的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/139.wav",
        "text": "2022年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/140.wav",
        "text": "有從日本進口雞蛋的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/141.wav",
        "text": "A廠商B廠商C廠商D廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/142.wav",
        "text": "我知道他在講最後兩家廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/143.wav",
        "text": "其中有一家非常敏感的就是超思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/144.wav",
        "text": "來看一下B廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/145.wav",
        "text": "從3月就有進4月就有進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/146.wav",
        "text": "你們跟亮采之間的合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/147.wav",
        "text": "是不是2月到4月之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/148.wav",
        "text": "是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/149.wav",
        "text": "那奇怪了那亮采後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/150.wav",
        "text": "進來的這些蛋到哪裡去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/151.wav",
        "text": "是給中央畜產會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/152.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明亮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/153.wav",
        "text": "亮采的部分它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/154.wav",
        "text": "它的合約是2到4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/155.wav",
        "text": "那4月以後的所有買的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/156.wav",
        "text": "不管是任何貿易商進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/157.wav",
        "text": "都是用貨到付款的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/158.wav",
        "text": "這個非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/159.wav",
        "text": "對所以我現在還是在問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/160.wav",
        "text": "當初你跟大家講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/161.wav",
        "text": "是只有超思有意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/162.wav",
        "text": "但我從關務署調出來的資料看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/163.wav",
        "text": "到從這個B廠商進口的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/164.wav",
        "text": "我合理判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/165.wav",
        "text": "這個B廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/166.wav",
        "text": "他不一定會願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/167.wav",
        "text": "跟畜產會合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/168.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下具體的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/169.wav",
        "text": "最後我只問一個最關鍵的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/170.wav",
        "text": "輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/171.wav",
        "text": "由亮采取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/172.wav",
        "text": "你們最後付錢給超思的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/173.wav",
        "text": "總共有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/174.wav",
        "text": "這個數量你不可能不知道吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/175.wav",
        "text": "輸入許可是亮采的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/176.wav",
        "text": "這個絕對有資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/177.wav",
        "text": "但是我沒辦法記那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/178.wav",
        "text": "所以這個數字什麼時候可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/179.wav",
        "text": "這應該可以提供這沒問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/180.wav",
        "text": "因為有發票每一筆都可以提供對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/181.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止你說每一筆都可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/182.wav",
        "text": "我給部長看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/183.wav",
        "text": "我從6月14日索資的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/184.wav",
        "text": "到現在還沒回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/185.wav",
        "text": "我的辦公室幾乎是每天打電話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/186.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/187.wav",
        "text": "今天部長說可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/188.wav",
        "text": "請問部長需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/189.wav",
        "text": "不要讓我辦公室的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/190.wav",
        "text": "每天打電話去拜託你們的國會聯絡人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/191.wav",
        "text": "要一個資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/192.wav",
        "text": "我好像在乞討一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/193.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/194.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/195.wav",
        "text": "就是每一筆我們付款資料的日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/196.wav",
        "text": "應該都已經很清楚這個表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/197.wav",
        "text": "單應該都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/198.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛的問題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/199.wav",
        "text": "由超思取得輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/200.wav",
        "text": "我跟你們調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/201.wav",
        "text": "檢驗所的輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/202.wav",
        "text": "局裡面的人說好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/203.wav",
        "text": "但是在部裡面簽核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/204.wav",
        "text": "現在公文流浪到哪裡我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/205.wav",
        "text": "我今天請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/206.wav",
        "text": "我非常卑微地要求你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/207.wav",
        "text": "非常卑微地請求你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/208.wav",
        "text": "這個數字什麼時候可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/209.wav",
        "text": "我想我不敢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/210.wav",
        "text": "因為我非常尊重立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/211.wav",
        "text": "所以這個什麼時候可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/212.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/213.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/214.wav",
        "text": "由亮采取得的輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/215.wav",
        "text": "付錢給超思的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/216.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話跟你剛才問的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/217.wav",
        "text": "索資是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/218.wav",
        "text": "部長由於時間後面的委員都在等待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/219.wav",
        "text": "你索資的是超思本身的進口部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/220.wav",
        "text": "黃國昌委員所需要的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/221.wav",
        "text": "你就在一個禮拜之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/222.wav",
        "text": "提供給黃國昌委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/223.wav",
        "text": "我想我們要先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/224.wav",
        "text": "釐清一下索資的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/225.wav",
        "text": "索資的內容很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/226.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋進來要不要輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/227.wav",
        "text": "是要輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/228.wav",
        "text": "好請你把輸入許可都交出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/229.wav",
        "text": "我看輸入許可上面的名義是誰就知道了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/230.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/231.wav",
        "text": "我們不是用合約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/232.wav",
        "text": "我們是用買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/233.wav",
        "text": "這個你已經說過了請你回到問題本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/234.wav",
        "text": "需不需要他檢附輸入許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/235.wav",
        "text": "是一個要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/236.wav",
        "text": "輸入許可是誰發的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/237.wav",
        "text": "關務署發的啊還是誰發的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/238.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋輸入檢疫的許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/239.wav",
        "text": "是你們農業部發的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/240.wav",
        "text": "檢疫的許可是我們可不可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/241.wav",
        "text": "如果是有的話我們就應該可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/242.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/243.wav",
        "text": "因為到目前為止我索資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/244.wav",
        "text": "到現在還要不到需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/245.wav",
        "text": "這個也需要一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/246.wav",
        "text": "我早就發公文去要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/247.wav",
        "text": "他們說已經簽出署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/248.wav",
        "text": "署裡面了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/249.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛剛沒有講錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/250.wav",
        "text": "我早就要了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/251.wav",
        "text": "嘛你公文還在旅行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/252.wav",
        "text": "我們還是針對問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/253.wav",
        "text": "請農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/254.wav",
        "text": "就剛剛委員所提出他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/255.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛只是藉由詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/256.wav",
        "text": "公文我要的資訊一項一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/257.wav",
        "text": "全部在後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/258.wav",
        "text": "我亮給召委看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/259.wav",
        "text": "索資的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/260.wav",
        "text": "這個是6月19日索資的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/261.wav",
        "text": "包括你剛剛答應的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/262.wav",
        "text": "輸入許可簡易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/263.wav",
        "text": "簡易的輸入許可那件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/264.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/265.wav",
        "text": "三天之內給好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/266.wav",
        "text": "它如果出來三天之內一定可以給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/267.wav",
        "text": "簡易證的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/268.wav",
        "text": "前面索資的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/269.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/270.wav",
        "text": "如果我問的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/271.wav",
        "text": "你說我不知道我沒有資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/272.wav",
        "text": "這是機密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/273.wav",
        "text": "那你就這樣回復就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/274.wav",
        "text": "索資部分剛剛最後一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/275.wav",
        "text": "就是三天內回復給黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/276.wav",
        "text": "其他的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/277.wav",
        "text": "請一個禮拜之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/278.wav",
        "text": "務必要給黃委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/279.wav",
        "text": "好不好因為他從6月14"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/280.wav",
        "text": "9日已經陸續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/281.wav",
        "text": "提供資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/282.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/283.wav",
        "text": "瞭解我還是一句話就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/284.wav",
        "text": "我們相關的資訊如果涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/285.wav",
        "text": "提供給檢調單位依法不能提供的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/286.wav",
        "text": "我們不會提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/287.wav",
        "text": "其他的我們會提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/288.wav",
        "text": "基於偵查不公開不提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/289.wav",
        "text": "我們會備註"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/290.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/291.wav",
        "text": "我們也請農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/292.wav",
        "text": "照剛剛所說約定的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154338/293.wav",
        "text": "請把資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/0.wav",
        "text": "主席我們先請副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/1.wav",
        "text": "好麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/3.wav",
        "text": "副主委早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/4.wav",
        "text": "今天為什麼主委沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/5.wav",
        "text": "主委有其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/6.wav",
        "text": "任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/7.wav",
        "text": "在我看來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/8.wav",
        "text": "今天這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/9.wav",
        "text": "當然是非常重大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/10.wav",
        "text": "按照這個修正案通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/11.wav",
        "text": "這一定會是原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/12.wav",
        "text": "的一個重大變革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/13.wav",
        "text": "這個應該是一個非常重要的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/14.wav",
        "text": "所以主委沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/15.wav",
        "text": "讓我有點驚訝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/16.wav",
        "text": "蘇巧慧委員在質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/17.wav",
        "text": "時也講得相當清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/18.wav",
        "text": "我大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/19.wav",
        "text": "委員所提出的這個修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/20.wav",
        "text": "就是第3條跟第4條的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/21.wav",
        "text": "修正草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/22.wav",
        "text": "雖然只有兩個條文的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/23.wav",
        "text": "但是議題蠻多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/24.wav",
        "text": "大概有五個變動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/25.wav",
        "text": "在這幾個變動裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/26.wav",
        "text": "的立法說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/27.wav",
        "text": "寫得沒有很清楚我也不是很理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/28.wav",
        "text": "那我又不能找提案委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/29.wav",
        "text": "上來質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/30.wav",
        "text": "大體討論或逐條討論我等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/31.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/32.wav",
        "text": "大概有幾個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/33.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/34.wav",
        "text": "有提出修正案要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/35.wav",
        "text": "由原民會主委兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/36.wav",
        "text": "行政院政務委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/37.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/38.wav",
        "text": "第二個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/39.wav",
        "text": "第4條就是主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/40.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民和平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/41.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/42.wav",
        "text": "這個是第二個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/43.wav",
        "text": "主委的任命必須經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/44.wav",
        "text": "區長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/45.wav",
        "text": "這個是另外一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/46.wav",
        "text": "第四個議題是副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/47.wav",
        "text": "目前規定是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/48.wav",
        "text": "三名副主委裡面有兩名原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/49.wav",
        "text": "那這個修正草案通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/50.wav",
        "text": "是三個人都要是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/51.wav",
        "text": "他們拿掉了依"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/52.wav",
        "text": "依聘用條例聘用的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/53.wav",
        "text": "本會的委員改為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/54.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/55.wav",
        "text": "剛才委員在提案說明的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/56.wav",
        "text": "也有提到我先談主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/57.wav",
        "text": "由山原平原輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/58.wav",
        "text": "擔任剛才蘇巧慧委員也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/59.wav",
        "text": "因為主委不是固定任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/60.wav",
        "text": "任命了一個主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/61.wav",
        "text": "是山地原住民結果他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/62.wav",
        "text": "在一個月之後辭職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/63.wav",
        "text": "那下一個是要換平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/64.wav",
        "text": "這個平地原住民一上來之後又被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/65.wav",
        "text": "週刊爆料有婚外情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/66.wav",
        "text": "一個禮拜再換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/67.wav",
        "text": "人那又變成山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/68.wav",
        "text": "我實在搞不太懂所謂的輪流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/69.wav",
        "text": "山原下一任平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/70.wav",
        "text": "因為這個沒有任期制所以是隨時會變的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/71.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/72.wav",
        "text": "所以他要把任期固定成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/73.wav",
        "text": "四年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/74.wav",
        "text": "憲法裡面有關山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/75.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民這樣的區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/76.wav",
        "text": "事實上有很多原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/77.wav",
        "text": "包括原住民委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/78.wav",
        "text": "提案委員自己本身都非常質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/79.wav",
        "text": "認為憲法規定山地原住民跟平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/80.wav",
        "text": "現在不是說住在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/81.wav",
        "text": "山地原住民鄉就是山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/82.wav",
        "text": "住在一般都市就是平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/83.wav",
        "text": "現在不是啊現在有很多山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/84.wav",
        "text": "也住在都市裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/85.wav",
        "text": "啊對不對所以雖然這個山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/86.wav",
        "text": "跟平地原住民的區分方式本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/87.wav",
        "text": "上面但事實上原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/88.wav",
        "text": "對於山地原住民平地原住民的區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/89.wav",
        "text": "本身就已經有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/90.wav",
        "text": "相當大的質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/91.wav",
        "text": "現在還要將這樣子大家已經有質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/92.wav",
        "text": "判決第17號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/93.wav",
        "text": "號未來是連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/94.wav",
        "text": "一樣會納入原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/95.wav",
        "text": "如果現在我們在這樣一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/96.wav",
        "text": "個學理上面我們原住民朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/97.wav",
        "text": "大家都覺得很有爭議的山地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/98.wav",
        "text": "跟平地原住民又把這樣的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/99.wav",
        "text": "我們又把它擬定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/100.wav",
        "text": "在新的立法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/101.wav",
        "text": "在這個憲法判決之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/102.wav",
        "text": "法令裡面我覺得那會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/103.wav",
        "text": "這個是其次啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/104.wav",
        "text": "原民會是獨立機關嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/105.wav",
        "text": "不是獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/106.wav",
        "text": "是行政院二級機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/107.wav",
        "text": "在法律裡面有規定嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/108.wav",
        "text": "規定在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/109.wav",
        "text": "中選會是獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/110.wav",
        "text": "我知道中選會NCC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/111.wav",
        "text": "還有公平會（公平交易委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/112.wav",
        "text": "規定在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/113.wav",
        "text": "行政院組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/114.wav",
        "text": "所以原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/115.wav",
        "text": "它不是獨立機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/116.wav",
        "text": "任命主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/117.wav",
        "text": "必須經過同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/118.wav",
        "text": "必須行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/119.wav",
        "text": "而行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/120.wav",
        "text": "國民黨成為多數之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/121.wav",
        "text": "他們把很多的職務都要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/122.wav",
        "text": "要行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/123.wav",
        "text": "這個我們也大概摸著鼻子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/124.wav",
        "text": "認了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/125.wav",
        "text": "啦他們是多數他們要這樣決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/126.wav",
        "text": "但是我倒是第一次看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/127.wav",
        "text": "中央行政院二級機關的人事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/128.wav",
        "text": "必須經由縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/129.wav",
        "text": "跟區長的同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/130.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他機關單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/131.wav",
        "text": "的同意權是這樣行使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/132.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/133.wav",
        "text": "中央機關的委員的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/134.wav",
        "text": "同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/135.wav",
        "text": "來同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/136.wav",
        "text": "這個在法理上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/137.wav",
        "text": "我比較才疏學淺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/138.wav",
        "text": "是不是請副主委跟我說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/139.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有這樣的相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/140.wav",
        "text": "所以這個我就真的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/141.wav",
        "text": "有一點覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/142.wav",
        "text": "基本上原住民所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/143.wav",
        "text": "這些案子我們基於長期以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/144.wav",
        "text": "在少數這樣的處境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/145.wav",
        "text": "我們都相當的同情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/146.wav",
        "text": "但是這個在立法上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/147.wav",
        "text": "我覺得最基本的憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/148.wav",
        "text": "不要說到憲法最基本的法理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/149.wav",
        "text": "要符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/150.wav",
        "text": "啦不符合的話我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/151.wav",
        "text": "我很難舉手說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/152.wav",
        "text": "讓行政院的人事同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/153.wav",
        "text": "由地方民意代表來施行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/154.wav",
        "text": "這個我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/155.wav",
        "text": "很有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/156.wav",
        "text": "手上有沒有資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/157.wav",
        "text": "具有原住民身分的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/158.wav",
        "text": "目前他的逐一分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/159.wav",
        "text": "是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/160.wav",
        "text": "目前大概各族都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/161.wav",
        "text": "但是只有3個族沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/162.wav",
        "text": "有拉阿魯人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/163.wav",
        "text": "啦一族一族講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/164.wav",
        "text": "各組人數現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/165.wav",
        "text": "還在統計中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/166.wav",
        "text": "還在統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/167.wav",
        "text": "你們全國的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/168.wav",
        "text": "總共有101位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/169.wav",
        "text": "我知道總共有101位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/170.wav",
        "text": "他的逐一分配是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/171.wav",
        "text": "到現在還在統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/172.wav",
        "text": "實在是不知從何說起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/173.wav",
        "text": "我看兩個委員的版本都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/174.wav",
        "text": "將我們現在原民會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/175.wav",
        "text": "改為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/176.wav",
        "text": "很好奇這個應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/177.wav",
        "text": "我趕快看一下他們的立法理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/178.wav",
        "text": "但是立法理由我都看不出有什麼立法理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/179.wav",
        "text": "啊為什麼要把目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/180.wav",
        "text": "按照聘任條例的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/181.wav",
        "text": "這部分我想等一下逐條討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/182.wav",
        "text": "再談請你在逐條討論之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/183.wav",
        "text": "把目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/184.wav",
        "text": "包括區長包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/185.wav",
        "text": "地方的這些縣市議員他的逐一分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/186.wav",
        "text": "才101人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/187.wav",
        "text": "你們到現在都沒有統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/188.wav",
        "text": "馬上把它統計出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154339/189.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/0.wav",
        "text": "麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/1.wav",
        "text": "副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/2.wav",
        "text": "原民會主委算不算政務官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/3.wav",
        "text": "算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/4.wav",
        "text": "主委是政務官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/5.wav",
        "text": "如果以今天的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/6.wav",
        "text": "他有任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/7.wav",
        "text": "你認為合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/8.wav",
        "text": "政務官有任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/9.wav",
        "text": "目前來講政務官應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/10.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/11.wav",
        "text": "沒有任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/12.wav",
        "text": "政務官不應該有任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/13.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/14.wav",
        "text": "變成有任期的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/15.wav",
        "text": "你支持嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/16.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/17.wav",
        "text": "因為比較沒有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/18.wav",
        "text": "一般政務官是隨著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/19.wav",
        "text": "同進退的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/20.wav",
        "text": "什麼同進退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/21.wav",
        "text": "隨著政策可能都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/22.wav",
        "text": "沒有你做不好可能就隨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/23.wav",
        "text": "要負政治責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/24.wav",
        "text": "哪有什麼同進退的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/25.wav",
        "text": "對隨時要負政治責任下所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/26.wav",
        "text": "政務官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/27.wav",
        "text": "不應該有任期保障吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/28.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/29.wav",
        "text": "對嘛如果政務官做得不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/30.wav",
        "text": "本來就是隨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/31.wav",
        "text": "要有走人的準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/32.wav",
        "text": "你如果對我們原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/33.wav",
        "text": "做得不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/34.wav",
        "text": "反而有任期保障之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/35.wav",
        "text": "那怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/36.wav",
        "text": "什麼事都不用做也可以過4年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/37.wav",
        "text": "會不會變這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/38.wav",
        "text": "有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/39.wav",
        "text": "他是掌管全國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/40.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣原住民的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/41.wav",
        "text": "欸再來我要請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/42.wav",
        "text": "今天的修法內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/43.wav",
        "text": "他還要縣市議會的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/44.wav",
        "text": "鄉鎮市長區長同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/45.wav",
        "text": "你認為合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/46.wav",
        "text": "這個部分因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/47.wav",
        "text": "應該要對立法院負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/48.wav",
        "text": "院長提請總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/49.wav",
        "text": "因此這個部分還要經過縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/50.wav",
        "text": "是比較特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/51.wav",
        "text": "你認為合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/52.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/53.wav",
        "text": "當然沒有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/54.wav",
        "text": "你認為合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/55.wav",
        "text": "你認為合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/56.wav",
        "text": "你來這邊備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/57.wav",
        "text": "不應該只有笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/58.wav",
        "text": "你認為合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/59.wav",
        "text": "當然就目前來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/60.wav",
        "text": "是因為沒有這樣的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/61.wav",
        "text": "我問你合不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/62.wav",
        "text": "合不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/63.wav",
        "text": "我要告訴你不合理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/64.wav",
        "text": "地方在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/65.wav",
        "text": "副主委對於原住民族的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/66.wav",
        "text": "業務你應該非常瞭解吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/67.wav",
        "text": "很瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/68.wav",
        "text": "還差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/69.wav",
        "text": "你都不要看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/70.wav",
        "text": "我們現在是16族對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/71.wav",
        "text": "你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/72.wav",
        "text": "排灣族魯凱族阿美族卑南族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/73.wav",
        "text": "賽德克族太魯閣族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/74.wav",
        "text": "雅美族拉阿魯哇族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/75.wav",
        "text": "還有達悟族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/76.wav",
        "text": "還沒16個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/77.wav",
        "text": "已經是13個了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/78.wav",
        "text": "賽夏族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/79.wav",
        "text": "噶瑪蘭族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/80.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/81.wav",
        "text": "你都說你很我今天不是故意要考你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/82.wav",
        "text": "但我覺得這個非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/83.wav",
        "text": "原住民裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/84.wav",
        "text": "有多少的縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/85.wav",
        "text": "有每個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/86.wav",
        "text": "都代表到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/87.wav",
        "text": "有每個族群都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/88.wav",
        "text": "有縣市議員的代表嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/89.wav",
        "text": "目前我們看到大概有3個族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/90.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/91.wav",
        "text": "對有3個族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/92.wav",
        "text": "你今天在這邊講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/93.wav",
        "text": "要負責任喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/94.wav",
        "text": "才3個沒有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/95.wav",
        "text": "我現在說的是縣市議員喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/96.wav",
        "text": "才3個嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/97.wav",
        "text": "你是不是手頭上沒有這個資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/98.wav",
        "text": "我裡面的資料是各縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/99.wav",
        "text": "名額而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/100.wav",
        "text": "你有名額對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/101.wav",
        "text": "但是族群還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/102.wav",
        "text": "你沒有族群嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/103.wav",
        "text": "所以你跟我講3個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/104.wav",
        "text": "你看你自己都滿心虛的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/105.wav",
        "text": "我只問你縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/106.wav",
        "text": "然後鄉鎮市長或區長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/107.wav",
        "text": "如果這裡是阿美族的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/108.wav",
        "text": "選的就是阿美族人數多嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/109.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/110.wav",
        "text": "所以問題來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/111.wav",
        "text": "如果照今天的修法內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/112.wav",
        "text": "要所有的縣市議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/113.wav",
        "text": "鄉鎮市長區長同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/114.wav",
        "text": "你認為人數比較少數的原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/115.wav",
        "text": "他有投票的權利嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/116.wav",
        "text": "沒有機會投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/117.wav",
        "text": "沒有機會投票嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/118.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/119.wav",
        "text": "既然沒有機會投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/120.wav",
        "text": "那麼原住民族委員會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/121.wav",
        "text": "應該要照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/122.wav",
        "text": "所有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/123.wav",
        "text": "是這是原民會的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/124.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/125.wav",
        "text": "如果今天修法改成這樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/126.wav",
        "text": "我連投票的權利都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/127.wav",
        "text": "等於他的聲音不見了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/128.wav",
        "text": "他沒有投票權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/129.wav",
        "text": "以後的主委會特別照顧他嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/130.wav",
        "text": "主委當然去照顧有投票權的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/131.wav",
        "text": "他才能夠當主委啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/132.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/133.wav",
        "text": "而且少數族的原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/134.wav",
        "text": "他的人數比較少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/135.wav",
        "text": "他們那個族永遠一輩子沒有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/136.wav",
        "text": "當原住民的主委會不會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/137.wav",
        "text": "有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/138.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個不對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/139.wav",
        "text": "我們要照顧所有的原住民啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/140.wav",
        "text": "原住民族每個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/141.wav",
        "text": "我們都要照顧到啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/142.wav",
        "text": "不管他人數多或少啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/143.wav",
        "text": "而且未來有可能會有新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/144.wav",
        "text": "所以副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/145.wav",
        "text": "在修這個法我們不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/146.wav",
        "text": "但是我現在問你的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/147.wav",
        "text": "就凸顯出其問題所在了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/148.wav",
        "text": "會有很多的少數原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/149.wav",
        "text": "沒有受到照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/150.wav",
        "text": "甚至會遭到資源的排擠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/151.wav",
        "text": "他以後受到的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/152.wav",
        "text": "會非常少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/153.wav",
        "text": "這是我們擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/154.wav",
        "text": "你會不會擔心啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/155.wav",
        "text": "也會有這樣的想法顧慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/156.wav",
        "text": "所以你也會擔心嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154340/157.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/0.wav",
        "text": "部長早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/1.wav",
        "text": "有幾個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/2.wav",
        "text": "我首先想請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/3.wav",
        "text": "民主基金會在您看來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/4.wav",
        "text": "重不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/5.wav",
        "text": "民主基金會很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/6.wav",
        "text": "自成立以來發揮很好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/7.wav",
        "text": "二軌外交的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/8.wav",
        "text": "而且跨黨派的參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/9.wav",
        "text": "跟國際的交流合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/10.wav",
        "text": "成果豐碩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/11.wav",
        "text": "特別是我們的代理執行長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/12.wav",
        "text": "我聽了他完整的簡報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/13.wav",
        "text": "我覺得立法院支持的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/14.wav",
        "text": "能夠發揮這麼大的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/15.wav",
        "text": "非常的感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/16.wav",
        "text": "我們會繼續努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/17.wav",
        "text": "有一些民主基金會的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/18.wav",
        "text": "在編預算的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/19.wav",
        "text": "大概就會做一些初步的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/20.wav",
        "text": "我們現在比較希望知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/21.wav",
        "text": "的是既然部長覺得它很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/22.wav",
        "text": "其實是要持續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/23.wav",
        "text": "我想請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/24.wav",
        "text": "在我們基金會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/25.wav",
        "text": "董事會推舉執行長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/26.wav",
        "text": "的議程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/27.wav",
        "text": "部長提議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/28.wav",
        "text": "卻被擱置的原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/29.wav",
        "text": "第8屆第1次董事會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/30.wav",
        "text": "產生了董事長跟副董事長而"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/31.wav",
        "text": "因為主持立法院的會議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/32.wav",
        "text": "因為他推薦的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/33.wav",
        "text": "也沒有在場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/34.wav",
        "text": "很想瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/35.wav",
        "text": "董事長所提名的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/36.wav",
        "text": "經過大家討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/37.wav",
        "text": "也經過表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/38.wav",
        "text": "盧業中大家會不太認識他嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/39.wav",
        "text": "就以他個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/40.wav",
        "text": "很多人在說卡盧但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/41.wav",
        "text": "但是盧是誰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/42.wav",
        "text": "提名很多人選"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/43.wav",
        "text": "讓立法院去投票的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/44.wav",
        "text": "他們也是一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/45.wav",
        "text": "的我們都會看很多的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/46.wav",
        "text": "們沒有看過他的背景資料"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/47.wav",
        "text": "如果不知道的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/48.wav",
        "text": "在這裡我簡單再說一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/49.wav",
        "text": "因為之前黃玉霖執行長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/50.wav",
        "text": "之前執行業務狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/51.wav",
        "text": "非常肯定的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/52.wav",
        "text": "他是一個土木工程的背景"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/53.wav",
        "text": "過去也曾經在臺中市政府交通部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/54.wav",
        "text": "也是受到肯定的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/55.wav",
        "text": "盧業中本身"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/56.wav",
        "text": "他本身就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/57.wav",
        "text": "國際關係的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/58.wav",
        "text": "這方面的一個專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/59.wav",
        "text": "他來擔任這樣的職務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/60.wav",
        "text": "有什麼樣的問題嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/61.wav",
        "text": "這空窗期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/62.wav",
        "text": "政黨的惡鬥"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/63.wav",
        "text": "這樣是很不好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/64.wav",
        "text": "因為如果預算要可以通過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/65.wav",
        "text": "從過去到現在成立"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/66.wav",
        "text": "後經過了國民黨經過了民進黨執政"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/67.wav",
        "text": "其實都沒有人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/68.wav",
        "text": "干涉過多"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/69.wav",
        "text": "如果讓我們有這樣的感受"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/70.wav",
        "text": "我們希望可以重新"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/71.wav",
        "text": "來檢視很多預算的運用"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/72.wav",
        "text": "過去馬政府時期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/73.wav",
        "text": "我們的外交預算當時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/74.wav",
        "text": "有22個國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/75.wav",
        "text": "我們的預算202十幾"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/76.wav",
        "text": "這個沒有包括"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/77.wav",
        "text": "機密預算可是當時"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/78.wav",
        "text": "機密預算並不高都是5億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/79.wav",
        "text": "左右到蔡政府"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/80.wav",
        "text": "2024年我們的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/81.wav",
        "text": "預算高達314億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/82.wav",
        "text": "這個還不包含"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/83.wav",
        "text": "機密外交的預算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/84.wav",
        "text": "我們只剩下12個國家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/85.wav",
        "text": "可是我們的預算越編越高"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/86.wav",
        "text": "然後一直跟國人說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/87.wav",
        "text": "我們做得非常好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/88.wav",
        "text": "但是我們邦交國失去了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/89.wav",
        "text": "我們過去可以用觀察員的身分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/90.wav",
        "text": "我們所有的國際組織"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/91.wav",
        "text": "沒有一個可以參加的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/92.wav",
        "text": "像今天的報告裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/93.wav",
        "text": "其實也差不多是投降了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/94.wav",
        "text": "啦就是說我們要用更務實的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/95.wav",
        "text": "你說有人幫我們講話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/96.wav",
        "text": "過去我們還實質參加"
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        "text": "我們編的預算還更少"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/98.wav",
        "text": "\n為什麼我特別提到預算的部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/99.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也很清楚地知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/100.wav",
        "text": "我們的外交工作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/101.wav",
        "text": "並不是那麼容易"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/102.wav",
        "text": "所以在經費預算上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/103.wav",
        "text": "其實大概也都是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/104.wav",
        "text": "儘量的給予支持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/105.wav",
        "text": "要用政黨惡鬥"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/106.wav",
        "text": "或者要用政治的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/107.wav",
        "text": "來干擾"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/108.wav",
        "text": "我們的外交工作並沒有好處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/109.wav",
        "text": "部長怎麼看"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/110.wav",
        "text": "是實質對人選"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/111.wav",
        "text": "每個人都見仁見智"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/112.wav",
        "text": "優秀的人才"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/113.wav",
        "text": "盧先生確實也很優秀"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/114.wav",
        "text": "我意思是說因為它有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/115.wav",
        "text": "董事會的一個程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/116.wav",
        "text": "董事會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/117.wav",
        "text": "認為應該由"
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    {
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        "text": "由董事長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/119.wav",
        "text": "去介紹去說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/120.wav",
        "text": "被提名的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/121.wav",
        "text": "我們的董事長有沒有去那裡說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/122.wav",
        "text": "應該都會跟董事會說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/123.wav",
        "text": "他是土木工程的背景"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/124.wav",
        "text": "是董事長親自去說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/125.wav",
        "text": "我的判斷是啦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/126.wav",
        "text": "因為黃玉霖前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/127.wav",
        "text": "執行長當過海基會主任秘書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/128.wav",
        "text": "他的行政經驗很豐富"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/129.wav",
        "text": "人選是見仁見智"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/130.wav",
        "text": "部長行政經驗豐富不代表他的外交經驗豐富"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/131.wav",
        "text": "今天有一個背景不錯"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/132.wav",
        "text": "沒有什麼特別瑕疵的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/133.wav",
        "text": "如果讓我們感受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/134.wav",
        "text": "你就是卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/135.wav",
        "text": "我今天特別再提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/136.wav",
        "text": "老實說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/137.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/138.wav",
        "text": "如果你在外交工作沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/139.wav",
        "text": "交出好成績沒有辦法做得很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/140.wav",
        "text": "還拼命花人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/141.wav",
        "text": "還要在這裡搞東搞西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/142.wav",
        "text": "我們未來希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/143.wav",
        "text": "可以更嚴格地檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/144.wav",
        "text": "\n現在這麼重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/145.wav",
        "text": "都發生這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/146.wav",
        "text": "我們不知道他實際的情況是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/147.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/148.wav",
        "text": "兩個點第一他是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/149.wav",
        "text": "資深的外交官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/150.wav",
        "text": "也當過政務次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/151.wav",
        "text": "沒有理由不知道這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/152.wav",
        "text": "有人要搶位子這個就做得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/153.wav",
        "text": "很難看第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/154.wav",
        "text": "持續沿用過去的陋規覺得沒有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/155.wav",
        "text": "讓我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/156.wav",
        "text": "他是用恐嚇的方式認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/157.wav",
        "text": "舉發就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/158.wav",
        "text": "就是因為內部官官相護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/159.wav",
        "text": "所以他才會爆出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/160.wav",
        "text": "這是兩種不同的模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/161.wav",
        "text": "第一個是陰謀論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/162.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/163.wav",
        "text": "吹哨者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/164.wav",
        "text": "我們對吹哨者是用這樣的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/165.wav",
        "text": "所以外交部不斷地發生事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/166.wav",
        "text": "\n如果我們要用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/167.wav",
        "text": "這樣的基金會我們未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/168.wav",
        "text": "會更慎重地更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/169.wav",
        "text": "嚴謹地檢視不可以讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/170.wav",
        "text": "你們一直浪費我們的民脂民膏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/171.wav",
        "text": "希望很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/172.wav",
        "text": "幫我們講話我們送出了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/173.wav",
        "text": "我們的護國神山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/174.wav",
        "text": "政府在後面發揮了很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/175.wav",
        "text": "大的影響力這些在在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/176.wav",
        "text": "都顯示我們一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/177.wav",
        "text": "犧牲我們的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/178.wav",
        "text": "浪費我們的金錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/179.wav",
        "text": "可是沒有得到實質的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/180.wav",
        "text": "4月份要加入聯合國的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/181.wav",
        "text": "超過9票在有12票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/182.wav",
        "text": "同意的情況之下仍然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/183.wav",
        "text": "不能成案很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/184.wav",
        "text": "的因素就是美國投下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/185.wav",
        "text": "反對票我想請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/186.wav",
        "text": "部長目前中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/187.wav",
        "text": "是不是也面臨這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/188.wav",
        "text": "聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/189.wav",
        "text": "跟周邊組織有它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/190.wav",
        "text": "除了聯合國憲章之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/191.wav",
        "text": "現實上受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/192.wav",
        "text": "的是巴勒斯坦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/193.wav",
        "text": "也受到美國反對今天為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/194.wav",
        "text": "安理會的成員國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/195.wav",
        "text": "其實是同意的而且非常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/196.wav",
        "text": "支持巴勒斯坦可是他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/197.wav",
        "text": "還是遭到否決今天我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/198.wav",
        "text": "中華民國會面臨我們一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/199.wav",
        "text": "應該怎麼樣一致對外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/200.wav",
        "text": "在拓展外交上大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/201.wav",
        "text": "發揮我們的影響力而不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/202.wav",
        "text": "對內這是我今天特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/203.wav",
        "text": "朝野持續合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/204.wav",
        "text": "我很期待知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/205.wav",
        "text": "部長到底怎麼想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/206.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我說的民主基金會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/207.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣解決這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/208.wav",
        "text": "一產生他就可以馬上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/209.wav",
        "text": "執行這兩個部分部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/210.wav",
        "text": "簡單回答好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/211.wav",
        "text": "其實那一天第8屆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/212.wav",
        "text": "第1次會議就有推舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/213.wav",
        "text": "韓院長做董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/214.wav",
        "text": "外界先前有一些猜測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/215.wav",
        "text": "其實並沒有卡誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/216.wav",
        "text": "董事長提名後要董事會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/217.wav",
        "text": "董事會有同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/218.wav",
        "text": "我們也尊重董事會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/219.wav",
        "text": "當天的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/220.wav",
        "text": "這個還沒有進入實質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/221.wav",
        "text": "溝通讓董事們能夠支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/222.wav",
        "text": "董事長提的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/223.wav",
        "text": "也許要更大的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/224.wav",
        "text": "啊但是沒有辦法對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/225.wav",
        "text": "我作為一個代理的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/226.wav",
        "text": "我只是說好把它擱置交由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/227.wav",
        "text": "下一次韓董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/228.wav",
        "text": "主持的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/229.wav",
        "text": "然後董事們可以跟他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/230.wav",
        "text": "部長會不會協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/231.wav",
        "text": "之前你也推薦過執行長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/232.wav",
        "text": "現在推薦這樣的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/233.wav",
        "text": "你會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/234.wav",
        "text": "認為他有什麼樣的瑕疵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/235.wav",
        "text": "他不適任或者他有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/236.wav",
        "text": "我尊重董事會的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/237.wav",
        "text": "我請教的是部長的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/238.wav",
        "text": "對這個人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/239.wav",
        "text": "其實專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/240.wav",
        "text": "都有一定的肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/241.wav",
        "text": "是不是跟賴總統的方向一致"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/242.wav",
        "text": "也許董事會有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/243.wav",
        "text": "包括委員也有這樣詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/244.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣有很多預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/245.wav",
        "text": "你根本就不能過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/246.wav",
        "text": "如果你要用這樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/247.wav",
        "text": "在中華民國裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/248.wav",
        "text": "我們是一個民主自由的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/249.wav",
        "text": "是大家來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/250.wav",
        "text": "尊重董事會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/251.wav",
        "text": "在這一塊土地上面暢所欲言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/252.wav",
        "text": "而不是誰可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/253.wav",
        "text": "影響人家應該怎麼想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/254.wav",
        "text": "應該怎麼做應該只可以講什麼樣的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/255.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣做對我們的外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/256.wav",
        "text": "一點幫助都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/257.wav",
        "text": "如果你從小地方就要這樣卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/258.wav",
        "text": "執政黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/259.wav",
        "text": "一直都沒有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/260.wav",
        "text": "花錢未來就會不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/261.wav",
        "text": "做部長同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/262.wav",
        "text": "我覺得把程序走好多溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/263.wav",
        "text": "但是董事會有其職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/264.wav",
        "text": "部長你會推薦嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/265.wav",
        "text": "你會推薦嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/266.wav",
        "text": "我不會推薦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/267.wav",
        "text": "不是韓國瑜董事長已經推薦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/268.wav",
        "text": "我說您會卡他嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/269.wav",
        "text": "不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/270.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/271.wav",
        "text": "韓院長都沒有人卡他了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/272.wav",
        "text": "這是最大咖的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/273.wav",
        "text": "我希望是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/274.wav",
        "text": "我希望是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154341/275.wav",
        "text": "謝謝馬委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/0.wav",
        "text": "我們先請教副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/1.wav",
        "text": "主委是誰任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/2.wav",
        "text": "院長提請總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/3.wav",
        "text": "對臺灣目前的政治體制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/4.wav",
        "text": "是由總統任命行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/5.wav",
        "text": "由行政院長組閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/6.wav",
        "text": "再組成各部會包含原委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/7.wav",
        "text": "國發會是委員制等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/8.wav",
        "text": "如果再加入一個任命之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/9.wav",
        "text": "要經過100個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/10.wav",
        "text": "由六都以及縣市政府的議員以及民選區長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/11.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/12.wav",
        "text": "再加上任期制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/13.wav",
        "text": "第一個對於行政院長任命的這一個權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/14.wav",
        "text": "它就加上了一個同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/15.wav",
        "text": "對於行政院長也沒有同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/16.wav",
        "text": "所以對於原委會的主委加上同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/17.wav",
        "text": "這個對於憲政體制是非常奇怪的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/18.wav",
        "text": "加上剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/19.wav",
        "text": "你再回答我一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/20.wav",
        "text": "這100個可能要行使同意權的這一些代表們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/21.wav",
        "text": "有沒有代表到目前16族所有的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/22.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有辦法完全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/23.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法完全嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/24.wav",
        "text": "所以行政院長任命的原委會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/25.wav",
        "text": "他的責任他的使命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/26.wav",
        "text": "他必須要照顧到所有原民朋友的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/27.wav",
        "text": "也就是說16族的權益他都必須要照顧到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/28.wav",
        "text": "而且他必須負政治責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/29.wav",
        "text": "不是有任期保障的是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/30.wav",
        "text": "所以你立場要堅定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/31.wav",
        "text": "啊剛剛宏陸委員問你那麼多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/32.wav",
        "text": "你回答不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/33.wav",
        "text": "基於對於16族所有族人權益的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/34.wav",
        "text": "立場要堅定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/35.wav",
        "text": "你相不相信你的主委會照顧到所有16族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/36.wav",
        "text": "相信目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/37.wav",
        "text": "對嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/38.wav",
        "text": "如果經由這100位代表來行使同意權的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/39.wav",
        "text": "不出所料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/40.wav",
        "text": "你回答不出來有哪一族現在沒有代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/41.wav",
        "text": "那你回答得出來哪兩族代表會最多嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/42.wav",
        "text": "人口數最多的大概代表會比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/43.wav",
        "text": "人口數最多來我請教你一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/44.wav",
        "text": "現在人口數最多的兩個族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/45.wav",
        "text": "應該是阿美族排灣族泰雅族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/46.wav",
        "text": "前三名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/47.wav",
        "text": "好前三名阿美排灣泰雅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/48.wav",
        "text": "所以代表有可能喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/49.wav",
        "text": "你對這100個是不敢回答出來還是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/50.wav",
        "text": "趕快查出來跟委員會報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/51.wav",
        "text": "到底這三族占100個的比例有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/52.wav",
        "text": "會不會這一個同意權以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/53.wav",
        "text": "會造成其他15族以上的族人權益可能不被重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/54.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們必須要先提出來的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/55.wav",
        "text": "另外一個是政委的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/56.wav",
        "text": "我想其實所有的部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/57.wav",
        "text": "在行政院裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/58.wav",
        "text": "原委會所提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/59.wav",
        "text": "對於原住民族朋友的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/60.wav",
        "text": "在行政院會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/61.wav",
        "text": "沒有說原民會比較小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/62.wav",
        "text": "所以這兩個修法是兩套不一樣的邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/63.wav",
        "text": "一個同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/64.wav",
        "text": "另外一個政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/65.wav",
        "text": "政委其實就是某一個總統候選人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/66.wav",
        "text": "他在競選總統的時候講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/67.wav",
        "text": "原住民的主委以後要兼任政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/68.wav",
        "text": "他不懂嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/69.wav",
        "text": "要凌駕目前臺灣憲政體制制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/70.wav",
        "text": "甚至比內閣制還要大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/71.wav",
        "text": "這一個同意權它是比部會還要大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/72.wav",
        "text": "萬一如同剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/73.wav",
        "text": "如果這一個主委下台了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/74.wav",
        "text": "請問下一個主委誰提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/75.wav",
        "text": "是要來問這100位代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/76.wav",
        "text": "會不會同意這個人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/77.wav",
        "text": "還是行政院長來提名這100位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/78.wav",
        "text": "再加上他不同意的這個邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/79.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個政治體制必須要很嚴肅的來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/80.wav",
        "text": "目前有多少委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/81.wav",
        "text": "原民會有多少委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/82.wav",
        "text": "目前族群委員16位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/83.wav",
        "text": "16族都有是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/84.wav",
        "text": "對每一族代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/85.wav",
        "text": "所以族群委員16位裡面都有聘任的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/86.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/87.wav",
        "text": "那如果沒有支薪的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/88.wav",
        "text": "這16個執行委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/89.wav",
        "text": "是不是會有什麼樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/90.wav",
        "text": "我們認為他們是我們最重要的部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/91.wav",
        "text": "跟原民會之間重要的溝通橋梁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/92.wav",
        "text": "而且他們也分派很多各種不同的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/93.wav",
        "text": "所以如果沒有他們的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/94.wav",
        "text": "我們很多業務的推動其實也比較困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/95.wav",
        "text": "而且這16個有支薪委員在我們部落裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/96.wav",
        "text": "會更可以代表原民會來溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/97.wav",
        "text": "所以這一條我們也主張這些必須要保留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/98.wav",
        "text": "那也請原民會這邊立場堅定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154342/99.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/0.wav",
        "text": "部長好說實話超思蛋的事情能夠扯這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/1.wav",
        "text": "然後要進口把它補足的問題竟然可以扯這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/2.wav",
        "text": "也讓整個國會改革的合理化更具正當性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/3.wav",
        "text": "國會改革本來就是應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/4.wav",
        "text": "可是從這個過程當中我們看到其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/5.wav",
        "text": "光要讓行政部門的黑箱打開來是多麼地不容易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/6.wav",
        "text": "所以我在想立法院要有調查權這部分是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/7.wav",
        "text": "\n不過我們今天最主要是講農業移工政策改善措施這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/8.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這邊也針對整個農業移工的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/9.wav",
        "text": "逃跑移工的問題真的很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/10.wav",
        "text": "到今年2月為止數字超過八萬五千人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/11.wav",
        "text": "然後我發現每次碰到逃跑移工的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/12.wav",
        "text": "勞動部這邊的說法都是直接表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/13.wav",
        "text": "可是每次都這樣用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/14.wav",
        "text": "4月份碰到這個問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/15.wav",
        "text": "我看到新聞資料當中你們也還是這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/16.wav",
        "text": "過去這麼多年以來每次勞動部都是這樣回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/17.wav",
        "text": "可是說要提修法然後都沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/18.wav",
        "text": "請問這個部分大概什麼時候會正式送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/19.wav",
        "text": "要重罰非法僱用和非法媒介這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/20.wav",
        "text": "原來的政策方向一直是如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/21.wav",
        "text": "政策方向如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/22.wav",
        "text": "可是很多年據本席瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/23.wav",
        "text": "108年不就送進行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/24.wav",
        "text": "可是怎麼都沒有送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/25.wav",
        "text": "對於這個議題的思考關注點不大相同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/26.wav",
        "text": "所以一直在做社會共識的建立當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/27.wav",
        "text": "單單用嚴刑峻法不見得能夠完全解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/28.wav",
        "text": "所以希望我們能夠從想辦法增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/29.wav",
        "text": "雇主可以有合法僱用的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/30.wav",
        "text": "包括員額上的一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/31.wav",
        "text": "OK所以何部長現在是要送還是不送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/32.wav",
        "text": "目前我們整個法案已經從行政院申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/33.wav",
        "text": "要撤回來重新再研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/34.wav",
        "text": "要撤回來再重新研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/35.wav",
        "text": "OK後續進度怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/36.wav",
        "text": "給本席一個很清楚的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/37.wav",
        "text": "因為我們很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/38.wav",
        "text": "如果說要怎麼樣去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/39.wav",
        "text": "移工缺的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/40.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣去補足這很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/41.wav",
        "text": "那移工政策部分肯定要有更清楚的一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/42.wav",
        "text": "而不是一直在這邊pending"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/43.wav",
        "text": "碰到問題就找了一堆藉口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/44.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主秘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/45.wav",
        "text": "我國整個產業缺工的狀態當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/46.wav",
        "text": "最嚴重的三個部分大概就是農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/47.wav",
        "text": "然後是營造業和長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/48.wav",
        "text": "我想這部分應該是很清楚的一個狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/49.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天就針對農業缺工的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/50.wav",
        "text": "資料裡頭就是農業移工政策改善措施書面報告裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/51.wav",
        "text": "你提到其實我們目前開放農業移工是1.2萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/52.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/53.wav",
        "text": "很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/54.wav",
        "text": "然後勞動部核發出來的聘僱許可人數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/55.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止是8,505人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/56.wav",
        "text": "很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/57.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/58.wav",
        "text": "你也特別提到我們今年年底預計1.2萬人會用罄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/59.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/60.wav",
        "text": "我們常態性的缺工是1.2萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/61.wav",
        "text": "可是季節性的缺工是20萬人次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/62.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/63.wav",
        "text": "這是全部包括在一起的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/64.wav",
        "text": "全部包括在一起是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/65.wav",
        "text": "就是1.2萬人裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/66.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是做季節性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/67.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是做常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/68.wav",
        "text": "理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/69.wav",
        "text": "我這邊也有整個列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/70.wav",
        "text": "就是季節性的是外展農務的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/71.wav",
        "text": "2,472人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/72.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/73.wav",
        "text": "所以我要提的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/74.wav",
        "text": "人次是怎麼定義的怎會有20萬人次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/75.wav",
        "text": "然後去詢問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/76.wav",
        "text": "們如果這一戶有缺工的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/77.wav",
        "text": "我們就把它當做戶數去計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/78.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/79.wav",
        "text": "它可能是缺幾個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/80.wav",
        "text": "我們就會去算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/81.wav",
        "text": "不是用一天來算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/82.wav",
        "text": "不是用一天來算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/83.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/84.wav",
        "text": "是不是會持續開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/85.wav",
        "text": "更多的人數進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/86.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也非常擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/87.wav",
        "text": "年底如果滿了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/88.wav",
        "text": "才去申請太慢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/89.wav",
        "text": "會有一個空窗期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/90.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在已經啟動一些調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/91.wav",
        "text": "調查的結果是大概還需要8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/92.wav",
        "text": "在這個階段還需要8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/93.wav",
        "text": "所以我們已經啟動了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/94.wav",
        "text": "就是跟勞動部去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/95.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/96.wav",
        "text": "另外的8,000人嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/97.wav",
        "text": "最後增加到2萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/98.wav",
        "text": "因為爭取還要一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/99.wav",
        "text": "用完的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/100.wav",
        "text": "馬上就可以又有8,000人部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/101.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/102.wav",
        "text": "你們提出來的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/103.wav",
        "text": "是開放人數3,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/104.wav",
        "text": "（雖然我看到另外一個統計數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/105.wav",
        "text": "是稍高一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/106.wav",
        "text": "但人數是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/107.wav",
        "text": "）可是我要提的情況是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/108.wav",
        "text": "目前還沒有滿額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/109.wav",
        "text": "有一個很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/110.wav",
        "text": "就是因為這有季節性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/111.wav",
        "text": "那麼農閒的時候要怎麼去補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/112.wav",
        "text": "包括勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/113.wav",
        "text": "讓我們外展農務的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/114.wav",
        "text": "在農閒的時候能夠跨業去支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/115.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/116.wav",
        "text": "因為原來的外展服務是不能跨區的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/117.wav",
        "text": "所以當這個區域閒的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/118.wav",
        "text": "就比較麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/119.wav",
        "text": "所以我們正在推動可以跨區服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/120.wav",
        "text": "一個東西收穫的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/121.wav",
        "text": "他可以跟著一直走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/122.wav",
        "text": "所以他幾乎每天都有一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/123.wav",
        "text": "所以現在開放到可以跨區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/124.wav",
        "text": "那有沒有可能可以跨業別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/125.wav",
        "text": "跨業的部分我們曾經努力過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/126.wav",
        "text": "但是不同的行業它有勞動契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/127.wav",
        "text": "就是非技術性的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/128.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法去跨業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/129.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們還會跟勞動部討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/130.wav",
        "text": "因為有一些公司週休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/131.wav",
        "text": "二日我們都希望週休二日可以來農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/132.wav",
        "text": "但是相對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/133.wav",
        "text": "他說農業很忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/134.wav",
        "text": "結果禮拜一就打瞌睡了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/135.wav",
        "text": "所以這牽涉到不同產業的特"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/136.wav",
        "text": "其實是要解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/137.wav",
        "text": "和勞動部相關單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/138.wav",
        "text": "去做一個跨部會的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/139.wav",
        "text": "我們會來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/140.wav",
        "text": "我接下來要講的狀態是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/141.wav",
        "text": "我們看到一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/142.wav",
        "text": "因為這是112年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/143.wav",
        "text": "目前大概是11.9%12%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/144.wav",
        "text": "你說農業的部分是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/145.wav",
        "text": "對農業的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/146.wav",
        "text": "所以你要特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/147.wav",
        "text": "農業部分現在並沒有比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/148.wav",
        "text": "一般的數字來得高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/149.wav",
        "text": "是一樣高的對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/150.wav",
        "text": "我們8萬5,000人跟74萬的移工來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/151.wav",
        "text": "算起來也就是大概11%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/152.wav",
        "text": "對11%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/153.wav",
        "text": "因為目前失聯的大概是3,000人左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/154.wav",
        "text": "沒有總共啦移工的部分有將近500人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/155.wav",
        "text": "所以是11%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/156.wav",
        "text": "OK所以你說現在監察院提供的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/157.wav",
        "text": "是比較舊的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/158.wav",
        "text": "農業移工失聯的比率大概是11%左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/159.wav",
        "text": "到時候再給我們更詳細的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/160.wav",
        "text": "\n我這邊要提到一個狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/161.wav",
        "text": "對不起我剛才看過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/162.wav",
        "text": "應該是12.14%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/163.wav",
        "text": "因為現在很多其他產業的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/164.wav",
        "text": "就是黑工的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/165.wav",
        "text": "很多都集中在農業部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/166.wav",
        "text": "在很多茶園果園裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/167.wav",
        "text": "據說基本上都是逃跑的外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/168.wav",
        "text": "能夠想一個更完整的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/169.wav",
        "text": "不要讓農業體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/170.wav",
        "text": "因為缺工太嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/171.wav",
        "text": "而去容納了很多其他產業的逃跑外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/172.wav",
        "text": "導致我們的社會當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/173.wav",
        "text": "出現另外一個不安定的狀態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/174.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/175.wav",
        "text": "農業缺工的情況我們很理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/176.wav",
        "text": "可是我們希望農業不要變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/177.wav",
        "text": "逃跑外勞集中的大本營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/178.wav",
        "text": "瞭解我們會努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/179.wav",
        "text": "想辦法降低這樣的現象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154343/180.wav",
        "text": "OK謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/0.wav",
        "text": "麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/1.wav",
        "text": "我想了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/2.wav",
        "text": "它其實是一個非常重要的人事制度設計的完整變革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/3.wav",
        "text": "它應該是要有一個目的所在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/4.wav",
        "text": "就是無論是希望可以更民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/5.wav",
        "text": "有關主委人事同意權的修正版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/6.wav",
        "text": "是不是有涉及憲法問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/7.wav",
        "text": "是這涉及到憲法第56條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/8.wav",
        "text": "各部會的首長必須要院長提請總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/9.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分就跟憲法相違背"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/10.wav",
        "text": "寫得非常明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/11.wav",
        "text": "行政院長提請總統來任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/12.wav",
        "text": "目前我們這些部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/13.wav",
        "text": "其實釋字第613號也有強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/14.wav",
        "text": "可不可以告訴我們釋字第613號裡面的重點是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/15.wav",
        "text": "好釋字613號最主要是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/16.wav",
        "text": "源於憲法第53條所揭示的行政一體的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/17.wav",
        "text": "它的意旨在使所有行政院掌理的行政事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/18.wav",
        "text": "因為受到行政院院長的指揮監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/19.wav",
        "text": "而得經由行政院對立法院負責的一個途徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/20.wav",
        "text": "落實對人民負責之憲法要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/21.wav",
        "text": "這是釋字613號的解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/22.wav",
        "text": "也就是首長的任命必須經原住民議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/23.wav",
        "text": "鄉（鎮市區）長的同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/24.wav",
        "text": "恐怕跟釋字613號以及憲法第53條是相違背的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/25.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝副主委的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/26.wav",
        "text": "其實釋字613號寫得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/27.wav",
        "text": "就是行政院長要如何的提請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/28.wav",
        "text": "任命他的部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/29.wav",
        "text": "這個都是在釋字613號裡面提到非常重要的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/30.wav",
        "text": "也就是今天這個版本下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/31.wav",
        "text": "如果改成由各縣市原住民族的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/32.wav",
        "text": "會不會跟目前憲法以及釋字613號有非常大的扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/33.wav",
        "text": "我相信這是等一下如果真的要進到逐條討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/34.wav",
        "text": "第一個要先解決的問題\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/35.wav",
        "text": "\n再來其實剛剛大家都有提到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/36.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民族共16族其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/37.wav",
        "text": "我們原民會的用意就是要16族雨露均沾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/38.wav",
        "text": "越少數越應該要保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/39.wav",
        "text": "這是原民會存在的精神與意義嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/40.wav",
        "text": "現在如果照這個版本下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/41.wav",
        "text": "改成由各縣市議員他們來審查會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/42.wav",
        "text": "會不會反而變成人數越多的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/43.wav",
        "text": "越容易取得代表的席次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/44.wav",
        "text": "越容易取得發言的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/45.wav",
        "text": "也就是最後可能會壟斷於某一些特定的族群手上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/46.wav",
        "text": "反而是他來代表所有的原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/47.wav",
        "text": "會不會造成這樣的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/48.wav",
        "text": "如果以投票數還有人口這樣的分布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/49.wav",
        "text": "大概會有這樣的一個趨勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/50.wav",
        "text": "是啦這就是剛剛非常多的委員在詢問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/51.wav",
        "text": "你們統計了全臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/52.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛說多少人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/53.wav",
        "text": "101位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/54.wav",
        "text": "總共101人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/55.wav",
        "text": "是要由這101人決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/56.wav",
        "text": "請問這101人裡面族裔的比例是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/57.wav",
        "text": "這個就變得非常重要對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/58.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/59.wav",
        "text": "你可不可以告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/60.wav",
        "text": "像阿美族大概20萬出頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/61.wav",
        "text": "排灣族10萬出頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/62.wav",
        "text": "泰雅族也是10萬左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/63.wav",
        "text": "這是前三大的人口數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/64.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/65.wav",
        "text": "照這個人口數選出來的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/66.wav",
        "text": "所以可想而知最後這個主委的族裔大概會是哪幾族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/67.wav",
        "text": "也就是你剛剛提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/68.wav",
        "text": "阿美族排灣族泰雅族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/69.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/70.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/71.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛有這麼多委員在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/72.wav",
        "text": "我們要重新調整這個人事制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/73.wav",
        "text": "可以來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/74.wav",
        "text": "可以檢討都沒有問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/75.wav",
        "text": "但是第一個不可以跟憲法的精神相違背"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/76.wav",
        "text": "第二個不能越改越不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/77.wav",
        "text": "越改越不民主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/78.wav",
        "text": "越改越沒有照顧到少數的族群"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/79.wav",
        "text": "這是我擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/80.wav",
        "text": "所以如果接下來我們要進行任何人事的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/81.wav",
        "text": "都應該要在這樣的原則跟精神之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/82.wav",
        "text": "所以剛剛其實大家最擔心的就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/83.wav",
        "text": "如果我們現在照這個模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/84.wav",
        "text": "可以來決定中央的部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/85.wav",
        "text": "哇那麼接下來所有的部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/86.wav",
        "text": "絕對會變成就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/87.wav",
        "text": "像是不是全臺灣的所有校長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/88.wav",
        "text": "一起來決定我們教育部長是誰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/89.wav",
        "text": "然後例如全臺灣的地方首長區長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/90.wav",
        "text": "一起來決定我們內政部長是誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/91.wav",
        "text": "會不會變成是這樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/92.wav",
        "text": "那麼他要負責的對象是誰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/93.wav",
        "text": "其實會變得越來越不明確"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/94.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們真的會擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/95.wav",
        "text": "的\n最後我再請教一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/96.wav",
        "text": "問題剛剛有提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/97.wav",
        "text": "可以保障政務官的任期代表4年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/98.wav",
        "text": "是裡面條文有這樣的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/99.wav",
        "text": "副主委您認同嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/100.wav",
        "text": "目前政務官應該隨時都有退場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/101.wav",
        "text": "他不可以說就算他做得再爛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/102.wav",
        "text": "他都有4年的任期保障"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/103.wav",
        "text": "這樣對人民公平嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/104.wav",
        "text": "這樣他有辦法對他的工作好好負責嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/105.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/106.wav",
        "text": "真的是問題非常大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/107.wav",
        "text": "所以我也希望大家等一下在逐條討論的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/108.wav",
        "text": "真的要審慎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/109.wav",
        "text": "這條文修下去的意義為何"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/110.wav",
        "text": "真的有對我們人民比較好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/111.wav",
        "text": "對臺灣的民主更好嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/112.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天在這邊提出以上的疑問"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/113.wav",
        "text": "也希望我們原民會要做好充足的準備"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/114.wav",
        "text": "提出一個更公平的制度來應對好嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/115.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154344/116.wav",
        "text": "好以上謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/0.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員請部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/2.wav",
        "text": "部長委員早辛苦了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/3.wav",
        "text": "今天的主題非常重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/4.wav",
        "text": "你們的報告指出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/5.wav",
        "text": "近5年農林漁牧就業人口遞減"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/6.wav",
        "text": "這是一個事實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/7.wav",
        "text": "112年我國農林漁牧業"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/8.wav",
        "text": "比111年減少2.1萬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/9.wav",
        "text": "人如果跟108年相比的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/10.wav",
        "text": "更是減少了5萬人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/11.wav",
        "text": "這真的是一個非常嚴重的數字"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/12.wav",
        "text": "而且從年齡層來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/13.wav",
        "text": "中高齡者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/14.wav",
        "text": "並且不斷呈高齡化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/15.wav",
        "text": "這是事實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/16.wav",
        "text": "其他的勞工也是一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/17.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的人口結構也有關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/18.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是大家年齡增加了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/19.wav",
        "text": "然後又因為很嚴重的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/20.wav",
        "text": "我們面臨的這些問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/21.wav",
        "text": "可以看得非常非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/22.wav",
        "text": "年）常僱及臨時員工短缺情形來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/23.wav",
        "text": "根據勞動部的報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/24.wav",
        "text": "其中以從事農林牧或養殖漁業工作最多"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/25.wav",
        "text": "\n現在在臺灣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/26.wav",
        "text": "其實其他一般的勞工"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/27.wav",
        "text": "包括製造業營造業各方面也都缺工"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/28.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有跨部會討論過這方面的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/29.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/30.wav",
        "text": "其實缺工的現象"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/31.wav",
        "text": "除了農業以外"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/32.wav",
        "text": "其他的行業也有普遍缺工的情形"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/33.wav",
        "text": "所以缺工是一個滿嚴肅的議題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/34.wav",
        "text": "我們其實都有在做跨部會的討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/35.wav",
        "text": "特別是跟勞動部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/36.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是在爭取"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/37.wav",
        "text": "就是當本國勞力不足的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/38.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣適當引進一些外籍移工"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/39.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們都有在做跨部會的討論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/40.wav",
        "text": "其實我在第9屆的時候就"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/41.wav",
        "text": "建議行政院應該要成立一個少子女化辦公室"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/42.wav",
        "text": "但是他們不理不睬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/43.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/44.wav",
        "text": "因為這是臺灣很重要的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/45.wav",
        "text": "啊現在不是只有農林漁牧"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/46.wav",
        "text": "跟一般營造業等各方面的勞工"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/47.wav",
        "text": "未來我們的軍人也是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/48.wav",
        "text": "以後都要用外籍軍人啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/49.wav",
        "text": "現在願意去當兵的人越來越少"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/50.wav",
        "text": "薪水又很低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/51.wav",
        "text": "這是一個非常嚴重的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/52.wav",
        "text": "我就不知道為什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/53.wav",
        "text": "行政院一直不成立"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/54.wav",
        "text": "衛福部跟行政院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/55.wav",
        "text": "在這裡也很難跟你要求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/56.wav",
        "text": "也是需要解決的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/57.wav",
        "text": "\n好接下來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/58.wav",
        "text": "當這個事件發生的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/59.wav",
        "text": "作為農委會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/60.wav",
        "text": "以前叫農委會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/61.wav",
        "text": "成立的財團法人中央畜產會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/62.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/63.wav",
        "text": "蛋然後農業部要補助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/64.wav",
        "text": "補助都要審核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/65.wav",
        "text": "啊一億700多萬"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/66.wav",
        "text": "補助要審核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/67.wav",
        "text": "啊我這個外行的想也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/68.wav",
        "text": "一個超思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/69.wav",
        "text": "這麼小的資本額"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/70.wav",
        "text": "然後它要進口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/71.wav",
        "text": "它哪知道巴西有蛋呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/72.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/73.wav",
        "text": "巴西進口多少"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/74.wav",
        "text": "應該是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/75.wav",
        "text": "500多萬顆"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/76.wav",
        "text": "總計是一億500多萬顆"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/77.wav",
        "text": "而巴西的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/78.wav",
        "text": "500多萬顆"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/79.wav",
        "text": "多遠"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/80.wav",
        "text": "蛋當然是沒有辦法保存"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/81.wav",
        "text": "一定是壞"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/82.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/83.wav",
        "text": "不能這樣講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/84.wav",
        "text": "因為整個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/85.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/86.wav",
        "text": "部長不要替他們說話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/87.wav",
        "text": "不是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/88.wav",
        "text": "你說巴西進來的都是壞蛋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/89.wav",
        "text": "因為整個雞蛋進口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/90.wav",
        "text": "而不是說那麼遠以後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/91.wav",
        "text": "進來的都是壞蛋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/92.wav",
        "text": "這個我覺得要澄清"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/93.wav",
        "text": "喔你沒有實際調查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/94.wav",
        "text": "你不寫調查報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/95.wav",
        "text": "又拿不到他們正確的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/96.wav",
        "text": "按照你們的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/97.wav",
        "text": "所以不要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/98.wav",
        "text": "沒有我是針對蛋的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/99.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯它那個船"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/100.wav",
        "text": "我是懷疑"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/101.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/102.wav",
        "text": "絕對是全部從"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/103.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/104.wav",
        "text": "來的我不講說你們農業部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/105.wav",
        "text": "有怎麼樣勾結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/106.wav",
        "text": "從中央畜產會到外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/107.wav",
        "text": "全部是一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/108.wav",
        "text": "啦不然它怎麼知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/109.wav",
        "text": "誰知道巴西有蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/110.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/111.wav",
        "text": "巴西是全世界供應雞蛋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/112.wav",
        "text": "至少"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/113.wav",
        "text": "你一定要強辯嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/114.wav",
        "text": "我現在講的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/115.wav",
        "text": "巴西本身的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/116.wav",
        "text": "因為巴西這個國家是出口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/117.wav",
        "text": "現在你不好好調查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/118.wav",
        "text": "它是依畜牧法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/119.wav",
        "text": "設置的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/120.wav",
        "text": "這個都還沒有改"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/121.wav",
        "text": "農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/122.wav",
        "text": "成立的經費都是你們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/123.wav",
        "text": "相關的這些制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/124.wav",
        "text": "都在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/125.wav",
        "text": "你當然有調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/126.wav",
        "text": "權怎麼會沒有呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/127.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/128.wav",
        "text": "好這個要調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/129.wav",
        "text": "你說你沒有調查權是不是交給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/130.wav",
        "text": "不是我要跟委員澄清一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/131.wav",
        "text": "就是我們在行政調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/132.wav",
        "text": "做內部調查這沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/133.wav",
        "text": "我們是說我們本身行政權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/134.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法觸及的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/135.wav",
        "text": "貿易商之間的貿易關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/136.wav",
        "text": "到底是什麼樣的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/137.wav",
        "text": "因為基本上他們是私法人關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/138.wav",
        "text": "以農業部的部分是沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/139.wav",
        "text": "這兩個是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/140.wav",
        "text": "的畜產會我們一定會督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/141.wav",
        "text": "你們已經有調查的就認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/142.wav",
        "text": "是你們職權範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/143.wav",
        "text": "對在我們職權範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/144.wav",
        "text": "我們會調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/145.wav",
        "text": "就你們認為的職權範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/146.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋的答詢中我就一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/147.wav",
        "text": "從我們的調查裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/148.wav",
        "text": "可以我可以提供書面資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/149.wav",
        "text": "好提供書面資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/150.wav",
        "text": "財團法人法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/151.wav",
        "text": "制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/152.wav",
        "text": "你們這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/153.wav",
        "text": "要依"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/154.wav",
        "text": "據財團法人法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/155.wav",
        "text": "所以就根據這個設置辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/156.wav",
        "text": "現在已經有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/157.wav",
        "text": "財團法人法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/158.wav",
        "text": "了去請教法務部應該怎麼修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/159.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/160.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員提醒我們會來檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/161.wav",
        "text": "已經很多年了財團法人法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154345/162.wav",
        "text": "好非常謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/0.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝主席我們請鍾副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/1.wav",
        "text": "委員好針對我們今天所要審查的原住民族委員會組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/2.wav",
        "text": "干預主委的人選有違責任政治您認同嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/3.wav",
        "text": "因為目前這種體制在原民會成立以來到現在都執行得很順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/4.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在不同政黨的情況下我們好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/5.wav",
        "text": "其實憲法第56條也明文規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/6.wav",
        "text": "行政院各部會的首長應該是由院長來提請總統任命之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/7.wav",
        "text": "行政院也要為其所屬機關的施政表現來負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/8.wav",
        "text": "我想還是要回歸由院長來提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/9.wav",
        "text": "您認同嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/10.wav",
        "text": "是要適才適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/11.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該還要納入一個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/12.wav",
        "text": "包括客家委員會還有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/13.wav",
        "text": "的甚至未來還有外配等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/14.wav",
        "text": "可能跟我們今天談的有點類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/15.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個人選應該要納入剛剛我講的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/16.wav",
        "text": "這個人選應該是比較適合來兼任政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/17.wav",
        "text": "這是第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/18.wav",
        "text": "是否要給薪的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/19.wav",
        "text": "原民會的工作上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/20.wav",
        "text": "他有可能要上山下海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/21.wav",
        "text": "我們把他變成是無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/22.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/23.wav",
        "text": "可能會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/24.wav",
        "text": "而且也會變成我們跟地方溝通的重要橋梁的損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/25.wav",
        "text": "對應該是會有這個疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/26.wav",
        "text": "所以應該還是要維持給薪的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/27.wav",
        "text": "應該還是要依法給行政院長用人的彈性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/28.wav",
        "text": "因為畢竟行政團隊是一體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/29.wav",
        "text": "政策的推動也是需要經過通盤的考量來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/30.wav",
        "text": "這部分也請原民會積極的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/31.wav",
        "text": "讓我們16族的權益都能夠被公平的兼顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/32.wav",
        "text": "副主委這個再麻煩你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/33.wav",
        "text": "另外我想跟副主委討論一個比較輕鬆一點的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/34.wav",
        "text": "議題針對發展原鄉的觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/35.wav",
        "text": "一個在大同一個在南澳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/36.wav",
        "text": "之前在南澳有一個碧候溫泉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/37.wav",
        "text": "碧候溫泉現在已經成為一個熱門的旅遊景點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/38.wav",
        "text": "當時要落成啟用的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/39.wav",
        "text": "也是副主委您去現場參與出席的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/40.wav",
        "text": "是我現在我發現到另外一個點是在大同鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/41.wav",
        "text": "大同鄉有一個閒置27年的派出所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/42.wav",
        "text": "當時是思源派出所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/43.wav",
        "text": "它已經廢棄了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/44.wav",
        "text": "當民眾一窩蜂往上跑的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/45.wav",
        "text": "第一個觸及的點就是在這個思源埡口的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/46.wav",
        "text": "在那邊賞雪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/47.wav",
        "text": "也常常造成那邊的交通會非常混亂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/48.wav",
        "text": "甚至有違停的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/49.wav",
        "text": "因為那邊有閒置的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/50.wav",
        "text": "在這裡我想建議副主委是不是可以研究看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/51.wav",
        "text": "把那個地方活化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/52.wav",
        "text": "縣政府目前已經規劃得差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/53.wav",
        "text": "我希望原民會是不是可以臨門一腳來幫忙一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/54.wav",
        "text": "不只帶動地方的觀光"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/55.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/56.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分我們是不是再找縣政府及大同鄉公所去會勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/57.wav",
        "text": "瞭解一下這個情況及怎麼協助他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/58.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/59.wav",
        "text": "原住民族基本法第21條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/60.wav",
        "text": "必須取得原住民族及部落同意或參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/61.wav",
        "text": "才能夠在周遭進行整頓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/62.wav",
        "text": "可能也都是跟一些原住民保留地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/63.wav",
        "text": "及林務局的相關土地有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/64.wav",
        "text": "縣政府已經溝通得差不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/65.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠針對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/66.wav",
        "text": "仿效之前南澳碧候溫泉的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/67.wav",
        "text": "來帶動我們大同鄉的觀光發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/68.wav",
        "text": "也可以提供民眾一個更安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/69.wav",
        "text": "我相信未來那個地方會是新的亮點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/70.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/71.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/72.wav",
        "text": "我們儘快跟縣政府鄉公所聯絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/73.wav",
        "text": "然後去會勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/74.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分副主委可不可以給我們一個期程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/75.wav",
        "text": "多久可以有一個結果給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/76.wav",
        "text": "一個月內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/77.wav",
        "text": "一個月的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/78.wav",
        "text": "會勘大概一個月之後這個報告會出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/79.wav",
        "text": "把這個地方整理好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/80.wav",
        "text": "好不好因為現在才夏天而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/81.wav",
        "text": "跟縣政府溝通之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/82.wav",
        "text": "未來的計畫看能不能都整理出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/83.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/84.wav",
        "text": "可以如果一個月內有一些規劃或想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/85.wav",
        "text": "剛好也提出報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/86.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/87.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/88.wav",
        "text": "以上謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/89.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154346/90.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/0.wav",
        "text": "可以協助部長回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/2.wav",
        "text": "還有司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/3.wav",
        "text": "部長早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/4.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/5.wav",
        "text": "我們今天的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/6.wav",
        "text": "其實就是如何運用國際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/7.wav",
        "text": "友我組織來讓我國加入聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/8.wav",
        "text": "所以我想承接剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/9.wav",
        "text": "沈伯洋委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/10.wav",
        "text": "懲治臺獨的規定當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/11.wav",
        "text": "推動臺灣加入僅限主權國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/12.wav",
        "text": "參加的國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/13.wav",
        "text": "或進行官方的活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/14.wav",
        "text": "這都會被列為臺獨啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/15.wav",
        "text": "所以以我們今天的題目來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/16.wav",
        "text": "部長您就是臺獨分子了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/17.wav",
        "text": "你怕嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/18.wav",
        "text": "這是委員會排的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/19.wav",
        "text": "所以委員會應該優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/20.wav",
        "text": "所以全中華民國國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/21.wav",
        "text": "都是臺獨分子啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/22.wav",
        "text": "中華民國就是一個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/23.wav",
        "text": "如果你要去延伸中國的定義的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/24.wav",
        "text": "我們自己作主沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/25.wav",
        "text": "但是他現在就是真的包山包海了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/26.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/27.wav",
        "text": "中華民國的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/28.wav",
        "text": "接下來就有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/29.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/30.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/31.wav",
        "text": "部長你怎麼來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/32.wav",
        "text": "現在第一線的外館人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/33.wav",
        "text": "強調他是中華民國的外交官的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/34.wav",
        "text": "我們就是捍衛國家主權跟人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/35.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/36.wav",
        "text": "因為對於中國的恫嚇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/37.wav",
        "text": "他其實就是先說先贏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/38.wav",
        "text": "但是在先說先贏之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/39.wav",
        "text": "我們也瞭解到在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/40.wav",
        "text": "國際現實的狀況底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/41.wav",
        "text": "中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/42.wav",
        "text": "等於中華人民共和國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/43.wav",
        "text": "一部分的政治立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/44.wav",
        "text": "不然的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/45.wav",
        "text": "我們身為中華民國的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/46.wav",
        "text": "的國軍弟兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/47.wav",
        "text": "保衛中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/48.wav",
        "text": "保護我們自己的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/49.wav",
        "text": "包括第一線的外交人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/50.wav",
        "text": "但是我們看到現在的國際現實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/51.wav",
        "text": "我特別列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/52.wav",
        "text": "現在有53個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/53.wav",
        "text": "跟中國簽有引渡的條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/54.wav",
        "text": "包括香港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/55.wav",
        "text": "言下之意就是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/56.wav",
        "text": "送到香港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/57.wav",
        "text": "也等於送到中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/58.wav",
        "text": "我特別列出來的53國當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/59.wav",
        "text": "馬來西亞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/60.wav",
        "text": "甚至於法國英國德國義大利捷克"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/61.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我會特別標紅點的原因是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/62.wav",
        "text": "根據我的瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/63.wav",
        "text": "今天大概就是學校"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/64.wav",
        "text": "尤其是中小學生最後一天上課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/65.wav",
        "text": "就是旅遊的高峰季了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/66.wav",
        "text": "當中國是用這種缺席審判的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/67.wav",
        "text": "都可以來進行程序時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/68.wav",
        "text": "我們拿著中華民國的護照出國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/69.wav",
        "text": "那麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/70.wav",
        "text": "中國的懲治新規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/71.wav",
        "text": "會不會有剛剛我們所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/72.wav",
        "text": "它隨便安你一個罪名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/73.wav",
        "text": "就把你先用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/74.wav",
        "text": "所謂缺席審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/75.wav",
        "text": "然後就把你的人先押走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/76.wav",
        "text": "甚至把你引渡到中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/77.wav",
        "text": "你們現在有進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/78.wav",
        "text": "這樣的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/79.wav",
        "text": "或者是跟國安單位還是相關單位來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/80.wav",
        "text": "SOP的演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/81.wav",
        "text": "或者是開會討論嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/82.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/83.wav",
        "text": "已經有開過國安高層的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/84.wav",
        "text": "也責成國安會跟相關部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/85.wav",
        "text": "包括外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/86.wav",
        "text": "來做具體的因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/87.wav",
        "text": "能夠有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/88.wav",
        "text": "整體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/89.wav",
        "text": "因應作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/90.wav",
        "text": "特別對外交部來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/91.wav",
        "text": "我們對外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/92.wav",
        "text": "因為這涉及到跟當地國家的交涉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/93.wav",
        "text": "怎麼去預防"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/94.wav",
        "text": "或萬一發生的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/95.wav",
        "text": "去妥善的因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/96.wav",
        "text": "我們也訓令外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/97.wav",
        "text": "也要注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/98.wav",
        "text": "臺獨的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/99.wav",
        "text": "可能的輿情反映跟我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/100.wav",
        "text": "溝通還有後續的因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/101.wav",
        "text": "因為對於很多的國人來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/102.wav",
        "text": "今天一個最新的民調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/103.wav",
        "text": "是有七成以上的民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/104.wav",
        "text": "認為自己是臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/105.wav",
        "text": "那麼對於臺灣民眾來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/106.wav",
        "text": "認為自己是中華民國的國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/107.wav",
        "text": "這個更是畫上等號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/108.wav",
        "text": "是毋庸置疑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/109.wav",
        "text": "昨天我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/110.wav",
        "text": "蕭副總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/111.wav",
        "text": "也出席了在臺灣舉辦的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/112.wav",
        "text": "文化奧運的記者會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/113.wav",
        "text": "我們有超過22個文化表演團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/114.wav",
        "text": "會前往巴黎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/115.wav",
        "text": "另外我們臺灣代表隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/116.wav",
        "text": "其實現在也已經啟程出發了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/117.wav",
        "text": "也就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/118.wav",
        "text": "包括參加奧運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/119.wav",
        "text": "或者是文化表演團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/120.wav",
        "text": "現在人就在歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/121.wav",
        "text": "這些有引渡條款的國家當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/122.wav",
        "text": "就包括了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/123.wav",
        "text": "法國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/124.wav",
        "text": "英國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/125.wav",
        "text": "德國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/126.wav",
        "text": "義大利跟捷克"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/127.wav",
        "text": "這些歐陸的國家是連在一起的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/128.wav",
        "text": "有些人他是為了看奧運而去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/129.wav",
        "text": "歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/130.wav",
        "text": "有些人當然就是我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/131.wav",
        "text": "國家代表隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/132.wav",
        "text": "會參加奧運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/133.wav",
        "text": "或者是出席表演"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/134.wav",
        "text": "現在人就在歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/135.wav",
        "text": "那麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/136.wav",
        "text": "突如其來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/137.wav",
        "text": "像這樣一個新規範跟新規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/138.wav",
        "text": "對於這些代表隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/139.wav",
        "text": "我想問一下歐洲司做了哪些準備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/140.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/141.wav",
        "text": "如果萬一有發生什麼緊急應變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/142.wav",
        "text": "我們已經有擬定緊急應變計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/143.wav",
        "text": "同時我們也請外館來進行演練"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/144.wav",
        "text": "新生出來的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/145.wav",
        "text": "22條的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/146.wav",
        "text": "依據國際引渡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/147.wav",
        "text": "基本原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/148.wav",
        "text": "他也必須要兼顧人權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/149.wav",
        "text": "尤其您剛剛所提到的這些國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/150.wav",
        "text": "基本上都是民主國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/151.wav",
        "text": "好但是如果就如同沈伯洋委員剛剛所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/152.wav",
        "text": "安你一個臺獨分裂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/153.wav",
        "text": "它可以用其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/154.wav",
        "text": "詐騙或是其他罪犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/155.wav",
        "text": "的名義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/156.wav",
        "text": "包括過去我曾經在這裡質詢過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/157.wav",
        "text": "國安局的局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/158.wav",
        "text": "它會檢查你的手機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/159.wav",
        "text": "認為你的手機當中有他們認為不符合規定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/160.wav",
        "text": "像這樣的狀況的時候當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/161.wav",
        "text": "那是在中國會發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/162.wav",
        "text": "但是在歐洲他用其他的方式的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/163.wav",
        "text": "這個部分你們有沒有提醒國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/164.wav",
        "text": "必須要注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/165.wav",
        "text": "包括提醒現在要前往歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/166.wav",
        "text": "的民眾國人要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/167.wav",
        "text": "他們是基於他們的法治跟民主理念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/168.wav",
        "text": "我們會特別提醒在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/169.wav",
        "text": "這方面他們也要特別的謹慎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/170.wav",
        "text": "中國問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/171.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/172.wav",
        "text": "要請教部長的問題就是有關於現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/173.wav",
        "text": "駐美代表俞大㵢所引發的這些爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/174.wav",
        "text": "就是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/175.wav",
        "text": "不到奢華"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/176.wav",
        "text": "但是我認為也不需要裝窮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/177.wav",
        "text": "尤其是臺灣can help"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/178.wav",
        "text": "臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/179.wav",
        "text": "是可以協助各個國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/180.wav",
        "text": "所以在公款的使用上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/181.wav",
        "text": "我們明明白白會有規矩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/182.wav",
        "text": "會有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/183.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/184.wav",
        "text": "我想外交部應該可以給一個比較明確的答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/185.wav",
        "text": "至於還有其他包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/186.wav",
        "text": "館長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/187.wav",
        "text": "尤其是俞大㵢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/188.wav",
        "text": "他在管理上面有沒有出問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/189.wav",
        "text": "這個部分現在外交部有查清楚了嗎"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/190.wav",
        "text": "有答案了嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/191.wav",
        "text": "國民黨要求他兩個禮拜之內回來"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/192.wav",
        "text": "但是我們要知道外交工作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/193.wav",
        "text": "尤其是剛剛我們提到的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/194.wav",
        "text": "中國設定的了22條新的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/195.wav",
        "text": "這是會影響到現在我們對於全球"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/196.wav",
        "text": "尤其不論是國人"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/197.wav",
        "text": "又或者是對外說明的一個"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/198.wav",
        "text": "華府是一個非常重要的地方"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/199.wav",
        "text": "所以部長這兩個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/200.wav",
        "text": "外交部查清楚了嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/201.wav",
        "text": "採購的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/202.wav",
        "text": "依程序"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/203.wav",
        "text": "的相關規範辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/204.wav",
        "text": "至於說個別的項目"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/205.wav",
        "text": "外界有一些不同的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/206.wav",
        "text": "包括幾個項目"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/207.wav",
        "text": "我覺得是要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/208.wav",
        "text": "把它說清楚"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/209.wav",
        "text": "為什麼是這個採購"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/210.wav",
        "text": "但總的價格"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/211.wav",
        "text": "並不是像外面講的這麼大"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/212.wav",
        "text": "我們經過釐清之後大概是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/213.wav",
        "text": "兩百多萬"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/214.wav",
        "text": "就是整個上半年"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/215.wav",
        "text": "我們美處採購"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/216.wav",
        "text": "的財產"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/217.wav",
        "text": "他都是經過我們秘書處"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/218.wav",
        "text": "同意"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/219.wav",
        "text": "所以程序上是沒有問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/220.wav",
        "text": "至於說認定上"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/221.wav",
        "text": "當然就是把它解釋清楚"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/222.wav",
        "text": "立法委員也有要這個資料"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/223.wav",
        "text": "我們也有給"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/224.wav",
        "text": "當然有些說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/225.wav",
        "text": "為什麼用密"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/226.wav",
        "text": "因為涉及到外館"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/227.wav",
        "text": "判斷這些項目"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/228.wav",
        "text": "可能會涉及到一些機敏性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/229.wav",
        "text": "但是內容的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/230.wav",
        "text": "都可以讓委員知道"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/231.wav",
        "text": "至於說管理上"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/232.wav",
        "text": "確實在第一線打仗壓力很大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/233.wav",
        "text": "同仁特別辛苦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/234.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要能夠相互的扶持"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/235.wav",
        "text": "因為我們要一致對外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/236.wav",
        "text": "至於內部的管理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/237.wav",
        "text": "改革"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/238.wav",
        "text": "都應該不斷地來精進"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/239.wav",
        "text": "好本席想要講的是"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/240.wav",
        "text": "不要讓第一線"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/241.wav",
        "text": "或者是代表國家的外交官"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/242.wav",
        "text": "他們的努力"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/243.wav",
        "text": "不論是基層"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/244.wav",
        "text": "其實都是同樣為"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/245.wav",
        "text": "為外交來做努力"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/246.wav",
        "text": "還是請部長要注意"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/247.wav",
        "text": "好"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/248.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154347/249.wav",
        "text": "接下來請徐巧芯委員上臺質詢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/0.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/1.wav",
        "text": "部長我們今天討論農業缺工"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/2.wav",
        "text": "問題我記得從107年開始"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/3.wav",
        "text": "我們努力把這個問題檯面化"
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        "text": "終於在108年以試辦方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/5.wav",
        "text": "執行到現在根據統計隱性的不說"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/6.wav",
        "text": "顯性的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/7.wav",
        "text": "部分我們大概需要的移工缺口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/8.wav",
        "text": "當然第二階段1萬2,000人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/9.wav",
        "text": "執行到現在大約已經有七成左右進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/10.wav",
        "text": "我們在地方還是聽到很多"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/11.wav",
        "text": "而且這些人都是我們的寶貝"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/12.wav",
        "text": "所謂的寶貝是什麼"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/13.wav",
        "text": "也碰到所有的氣候變遷"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/14.wav",
        "text": "我們務必要幫他們解決"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/15.wav",
        "text": "因為今年就要到了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/16.wav",
        "text": "怎麼辦呢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/17.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/18.wav",
        "text": "我們就是為了防止年底以後就"
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        "text": "對怎麼辦"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/20.wav",
        "text": "所以我們盤了8,000人"
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        "text": "8,000人裡面包括農林漁畜部分"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/22.wav",
        "text": "因為我們負責這部"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/23.wav",
        "text": "部分現在就是積極跟勞動部爭取"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/24.wav",
        "text": "說服他們勞動缺工問題有必要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/25.wav",
        "text": "做一個補充"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/26.wav",
        "text": "對我們當你的後盾"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/27.wav",
        "text": "你有信心一定爭取到嘛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/28.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/29.wav",
        "text": "我想勞動部也非常支持農業部的提案"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/30.wav",
        "text": "他們也非常重視"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/31.wav",
        "text": "我們要的是結果"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/32.wav",
        "text": "一定要對接成功"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/33.wav",
        "text": "繼續加油"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/34.wav",
        "text": "會我們有信心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/35.wav",
        "text": "我你們有信心我就給你獎勵"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/36.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/37.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們要討論的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/38.wav",
        "text": "而且行業別也是瞬息萬變"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/39.wav",
        "text": "現在很多人不管是在辦公室或"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/40.wav",
        "text": "或家裡都非常喜歡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/41.wav",
        "text": "這創造了很多產值"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/42.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/43.wav",
        "text": "對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/44.wav",
        "text": "好草皮也非常迫切需要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/45.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望把自己的家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/46.wav",
        "text": "弄好甚至在居住的時候"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/47.wav",
        "text": "都希望有草皮"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/48.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的情況之下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/49.wav",
        "text": "草皮園藝也非常的需要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/50.wav",
        "text": "在我的選區"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/51.wav",
        "text": "對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/52.wav",
        "text": "但是目前草皮的類別"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/53.wav",
        "text": "還沒有辦法加入這個行業"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/54.wav",
        "text": "怎麼辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/55.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/56.wav",
        "text": "我們有特別針對一些新興的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/57.wav",
        "text": "上一次本席跟你討論的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/58.wav",
        "text": "連花卉都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/59.wav",
        "text": "最後你加進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/60.wav",
        "text": "對6月7號的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/61.wav",
        "text": "我們已經有跟勞動部爭取"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/62.wav",
        "text": "我們也降低它的門檻"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/63.wav",
        "text": "因為如果門檻太高了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/64.wav",
        "text": "就算有提對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/65.wav",
        "text": "你要去盤點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/66.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們都盤點好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/67.wav",
        "text": "了已經在6月7號有部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/68.wav",
        "text": "行文到勞動部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/69.wav",
        "text": "我們也會持續往降低門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/70.wav",
        "text": "增加新的品項為目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/71.wav",
        "text": "所以本席請教"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/72.wav",
        "text": "草皮的部分會放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/73.wav",
        "text": "應該會吧"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/74.wav",
        "text": "這是務必"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/75.wav",
        "text": "我們已經有提案到勞動部了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/76.wav",
        "text": "增加的類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/77.wav",
        "text": "芽菜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/78.wav",
        "text": "芽菜非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/79.wav",
        "text": "菇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/80.wav",
        "text": "新社現在連菇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/81.wav",
        "text": "菌種都由我們的農會自己來協助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/82.wav",
        "text": "為國爭光"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/83.wav",
        "text": "所以菇類"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/84.wav",
        "text": "草皮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/85.wav",
        "text": "都會在這一次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/86.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候會公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/87.wav",
        "text": "我們在行政程序上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/88.wav",
        "text": "一定會跟勞動部協調"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/89.wav",
        "text": "你預估的KPI時間點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/90.wav",
        "text": "在什麼時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/91.wav",
        "text": "我希望在年底之前都能夠完成"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/92.wav",
        "text": "當然越快越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/93.wav",
        "text": "不可能到年底"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/94.wav",
        "text": "現在才6月"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/95.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/96.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可能半年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/97.wav",
        "text": "你們不做事嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/98.wav",
        "text": "因為勞動部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/99.wav",
        "text": "然後我們會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/100.wav",
        "text": "怎麼審也不要審到半年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/101.wav",
        "text": "啊大家都知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/102.wav",
        "text": "這非常的迫切需要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/103.wav",
        "text": "我們農民一天都不能等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/104.wav",
        "text": "能夠加速審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/105.wav",
        "text": "加速審查"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/106.wav",
        "text": "儘速開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/107.wav",
        "text": "菇類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/108.wav",
        "text": "芽菜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/109.wav",
        "text": "都要開放"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/110.wav",
        "text": "因為它有一部分還要修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/111.wav",
        "text": "部長你真的要謝謝我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/112.wav",
        "text": "臺中地區的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/113.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/114.wav",
        "text": "二三十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/115.wav",
        "text": "來全家總動員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/116.wav",
        "text": "不斷地在推陳出新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/117.wav",
        "text": "為我們國家賺了這麼多的稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/118.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要全力支持它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/119.wav",
        "text": "像我們的香菇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/120.wav",
        "text": "我們做到被人欺負之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/121.wav",
        "text": "我們自己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/122.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/123.wav",
        "text": "臺灣人的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/124.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/125.wav",
        "text": "我們自己的農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/126.wav",
        "text": "在相關的配套裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/127.wav",
        "text": "我們開放了這個類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/128.wav",
        "text": "但是在整個申請的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/129.wav",
        "text": "一定要好好的協助他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/130.wav",
        "text": "簡化手續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/131.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/132.wav",
        "text": "應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/133.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/134.wav",
        "text": "接下來我要跟你討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/135.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/136.wav",
        "text": "25.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/137.wav",
        "text": "你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/138.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜還有27.5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/139.wav",
        "text": "本來大概是37元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/140.wav",
        "text": "現在是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/141.wav",
        "text": "29元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/142.wav",
        "text": "甚至有人說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/143.wav",
        "text": "好辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/144.wav",
        "text": "甚至一箱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/145.wav",
        "text": "300元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/146.wav",
        "text": "怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/147.wav",
        "text": "您上次跟本席討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/148.wav",
        "text": "針對寡產雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/149.wav",
        "text": "我們要有50萬隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/150.wav",
        "text": "從120萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/151.wav",
        "text": "大概60萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/152.wav",
        "text": "維持兩個月嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/153.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/154.wav",
        "text": "維持兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/155.wav",
        "text": "每一個月增加淘汰50萬隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/156.wav",
        "text": "應該是60萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/157.wav",
        "text": "60萬隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/158.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/159.wav",
        "text": "一隻補助多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/160.wav",
        "text": "20塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/161.wav",
        "text": "一隻補助20塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/162.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/163.wav",
        "text": "部長你冷靜去想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/164.wav",
        "text": "好不容易生出來的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/165.wav",
        "text": "過量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/166.wav",
        "text": "甚至"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/167.wav",
        "text": "要去餵豬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/168.wav",
        "text": "心痛啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/169.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們又看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/170.wav",
        "text": "因為你的產銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/171.wav",
        "text": "沒有安排好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/172.wav",
        "text": "所以一隻還要補助20塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/173.wav",
        "text": "這都是人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/174.wav",
        "text": "你現在希望控制在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/175.wav",
        "text": "2,400萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/176.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/177.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/178.wav",
        "text": "你現在希望控制在這個樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/179.wav",
        "text": "本席也具體給你建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/180.wav",
        "text": "你的產銷機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/181.wav",
        "text": "必須好好去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/182.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/183.wav",
        "text": "你沒有去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/184.wav",
        "text": "寡產母雞20塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/185.wav",
        "text": "這都是我們的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/186.wav",
        "text": "耶60萬隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/187.wav",
        "text": "產生出來的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/188.wav",
        "text": "還要送給豬吃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/189.wav",
        "text": "保存起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/190.wav",
        "text": "還要冷藏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/191.wav",
        "text": "還要電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/192.wav",
        "text": "農民苦哈哈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/193.wav",
        "text": "雞農苦哈哈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/194.wav",
        "text": "不可以如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/195.wav",
        "text": "請你去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/196.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/197.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/198.wav",
        "text": "你知道本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/199.wav",
        "text": "非常關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/200.wav",
        "text": "TNR"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/201.wav",
        "text": "整個流程要完善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/202.wav",
        "text": "經過幾天的觀察期才可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/203.wav",
        "text": "回置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/204.wav",
        "text": "是現在第26條卻告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/205.wav",
        "text": "只要一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/206.wav",
        "text": "一天可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/207.wav",
        "text": "腸子破掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/208.wav",
        "text": "肚子也破了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/209.wav",
        "text": "這怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/210.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/211.wav",
        "text": "TNR的手冊內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/212.wav",
        "text": "回置的時間要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/213.wav",
        "text": "手術後的五天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/214.wav",
        "text": "部長你認為呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/215.wav",
        "text": "一定要確保動物的福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/216.wav",
        "text": "肚子破掉也讓牠出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/217.wav",
        "text": "如果結紮以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/218.wav",
        "text": "有些傷口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/219.wav",
        "text": "那就應該要看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/220.wav",
        "text": "當時的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/221.wav",
        "text": "我覺得一天可能太早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/222.wav",
        "text": "了要確保動物的福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/223.wav",
        "text": "是一個對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/224.wav",
        "text": "這是基本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/225.wav",
        "text": "我希望你去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/226.wav",
        "text": "至少要三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/227.wav",
        "text": "是我們會來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/228.wav",
        "text": "你把數字告訴本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/229.wav",
        "text": "因為你們更離譜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/230.wav",
        "text": "肚子破掉的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/231.wav",
        "text": "牠到底在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/232.wav",
        "text": "第一個是時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/233.wav",
        "text": "請你們去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/234.wav",
        "text": "本席具體建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/235.wav",
        "text": "至少要三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/236.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/237.wav",
        "text": "具體建議手術之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/238.wav",
        "text": "也應該要放晶片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/239.wav",
        "text": "你們去研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/240.wav",
        "text": "這樣子你才可以管控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/241.wav",
        "text": "這一隻到底跑到哪裡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/242.wav",
        "text": "不然就會製造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/243.wav",
        "text": "第二個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/244.wav",
        "text": "我覺得委員的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/245.wav",
        "text": "非常正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/246.wav",
        "text": "就是當我捕捉之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/247.wav",
        "text": "應該要放晶片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/248.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/249.wav",
        "text": "我會來要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/250.wav",
        "text": "後續才能夠有效的追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/251.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/252.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/253.wav",
        "text": "本席所提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/254.wav",
        "text": "你必須要放晶片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/255.wav",
        "text": "讓所有的人都能夠安心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154348/256.wav",
        "text": "第1項就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/0.wav",
        "text": "麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/1.wav",
        "text": "早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/2.wav",
        "text": "人事行政總處只有來了副處長而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/3.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/4.wav",
        "text": "可以單獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/5.wav",
        "text": "做決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/6.wav",
        "text": "我本來以為今天人事長會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/7.wav",
        "text": "針對跟原住民族有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/8.wav",
        "text": "部分就教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/9.wav",
        "text": "委員會組織法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/10.wav",
        "text": "原民會所置的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/11.wav",
        "text": "跟整個國發會主委與委員之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/12.wav",
        "text": "都是部長層級的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/13.wav",
        "text": "又不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/14.wav",
        "text": "今天兩個版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/15.wav",
        "text": "你的看法是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/16.wav",
        "text": "對這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/17.wav",
        "text": "其實我比這個還更開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/18.wav",
        "text": "本席一直都主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/19.wav",
        "text": "原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/20.wav",
        "text": "其實是可以自治的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/21.wav",
        "text": "我都這樣認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/22.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/23.wav",
        "text": "這兩個條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/24.wav",
        "text": "我也不認為譬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/25.wav",
        "text": "又去兼任政委以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/26.wav",
        "text": "現在對這個的態度是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/27.wav",
        "text": "副主委你的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/28.wav",
        "text": "占了很重要的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/29.wav",
        "text": "下鄉跟部落協調溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/30.wav",
        "text": "甚至參加任何活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/31.wav",
        "text": "他們都是我們部落跟原民會之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/32.wav",
        "text": "而且目前我們16位族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/33.wav",
        "text": "一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/34.wav",
        "text": "一半的人在會裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/35.wav",
        "text": "一半的人在各區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/36.wav",
        "text": "推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/37.wav",
        "text": "我在問東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/38.wav",
        "text": "今天委員會審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/39.wav",
        "text": "其實我們認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/40.wav",
        "text": "為這次提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/41.wav",
        "text": "是希望無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/42.wav",
        "text": "但是我們還是希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/43.wav",
        "text": "用聘用的方式進用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/44.wav",
        "text": "繼續負責他們的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/45.wav",
        "text": "我就提問一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/46.wav",
        "text": "你比較熟的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/47.wav",
        "text": "來行使這樣的同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/48.wav",
        "text": "你的看法是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/49.wav",
        "text": "譬如你也可以認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/50.wav",
        "text": "從責任政治來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/51.wav",
        "text": "或者整個人事同意權的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/52.wav",
        "text": "行使方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/53.wav",
        "text": "有什麼窒礙難行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/54.wav",
        "text": "就是談到那個風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/55.wav",
        "text": "我想問你真正的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/56.wav",
        "text": "28年來原民會這樣的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/57.wav",
        "text": "還算順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/58.wav",
        "text": "如果現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/59.wav",
        "text": "按照這樣的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/60.wav",
        "text": "希望由地方的縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/61.wav",
        "text": "直轄市及鄉鎮市區長來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/62.wav",
        "text": "同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/63.wav",
        "text": "我們也不曉得要怎麼去調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/64.wav",
        "text": "而且這是在憲法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/65.wav",
        "text": "明定院長提名總統任命的權力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/66.wav",
        "text": "何況他又是政務官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/67.wav",
        "text": "是不是就教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/68.wav",
        "text": "人事行政總處副處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/69.wav",
        "text": "因為基於憲法第56條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/70.wav",
        "text": "已經規定各部會的首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/71.wav",
        "text": "是由行政院院長提請總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/72.wav",
        "text": "任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/73.wav",
        "text": "由地方的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/74.wav",
        "text": "是沒有這樣的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/75.wav",
        "text": "也很有創意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/76.wav",
        "text": "但現制上窒礙難行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/77.wav",
        "text": "這就是你的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/78.wav",
        "text": "應該說我們不太確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/79.wav",
        "text": "細節上面要如何操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/80.wav",
        "text": "原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/81.wav",
        "text": "整個原民裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/82.wav",
        "text": "這個我們可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/83.wav",
        "text": "對於整個原住民族的自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/84.wav",
        "text": "來講究竟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/85.wav",
        "text": "是一個突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/86.wav",
        "text": "益的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/87.wav",
        "text": "來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/88.wav",
        "text": "根本完全跟整個體制不合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/89.wav",
        "text": "就是比較有高度的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/90.wav",
        "text": "衝突是存在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/91.wav",
        "text": "說是創意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/92.wav",
        "text": "因為目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/93.wav",
        "text": "也要有完整的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/94.wav",
        "text": "當一個完整的規劃還沒有辦法出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/95.wav",
        "text": "只就這個點這樣去進行的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/96.wav",
        "text": "可能會遇到很多現況的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/97.wav",
        "text": "但是以你們這個說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/98.wav",
        "text": "等於今天如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/99.wav",
        "text": "這個條文要進入逐條的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/100.wav",
        "text": "你們怎麼樣去做說明呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/101.wav",
        "text": "好我繼續再來請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/102.wav",
        "text": "我記得你們主委上任受訪的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/103.wav",
        "text": "也講到因為時間上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/104.wav",
        "text": "緊迫他首要的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/105.wav",
        "text": "111年憲判字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/106.wav",
        "text": "第17號相關的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/107.wav",
        "text": "推動平埔族的正名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/108.wav",
        "text": "以現在來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/109.wav",
        "text": "及方向如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/110.wav",
        "text": "繼續去走的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/111.wav",
        "text": "就變成未來除了山原及平原以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/112.wav",
        "text": "會再多一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/113.wav",
        "text": "平埔原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/114.wav",
        "text": "本席在過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/115.wav",
        "text": "前任的原民會主委內政部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/116.wav",
        "text": "及中選會主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/117.wav",
        "text": "多了一個平埔族的原民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/118.wav",
        "text": "影響的層面非常大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/119.wav",
        "text": "最大的第一個大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/120.wav",
        "text": "想到的就是政治層面的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/121.wav",
        "text": "也就是整個選舉制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/122.wav",
        "text": "以現在來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/123.wav",
        "text": "我們憲法裡面所明定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/124.wav",
        "text": "針對未來產生的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/125.wav",
        "text": "你們籌備的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/126.wav",
        "text": "你們現在方向是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/127.wav",
        "text": "現在也成立了一個工作小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/128.wav",
        "text": "設專法的部分我們也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/129.wav",
        "text": "大概會有十幾場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/130.wav",
        "text": "徵詢會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/131.wav",
        "text": "然後他的權益呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/132.wav",
        "text": "權益當然會另以法律定之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/133.wav",
        "text": "之在諮詢會議的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/134.wav",
        "text": "我們的草案有分甲版乙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/135.wav",
        "text": "不是我懂你的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/136.wav",
        "text": "但我的意思是從政治層面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/137.wav",
        "text": "從選舉制度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/138.wav",
        "text": "那你怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/139.wav",
        "text": "如果是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/140.wav",
        "text": "地方選舉的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/141.wav",
        "text": "要從地方制度法去修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/142.wav",
        "text": "什麼這哪是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/143.wav",
        "text": "地方制度法去修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/144.wav",
        "text": "這怎麼會是地方制度法呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/145.wav",
        "text": "如果在權利上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/146.wav",
        "text": "想要做一個平埔族民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/147.wav",
        "text": "參與選舉的話可能這在地方制度法上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/148.wav",
        "text": "去做整理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/149.wav",
        "text": "你真的以為是地方制度法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/150.wav",
        "text": "那他們怎麼選立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/151.wav",
        "text": "山原平原各三席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/152.wav",
        "text": "這是兩種不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/153.wav",
        "text": "所以說各個原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/154.wav",
        "text": "不是變成又不平等了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/155.wav",
        "text": "會不會有這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/156.wav",
        "text": "對所以這個部分可能要再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/157.wav",
        "text": "多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/158.wav",
        "text": "這不是討論跟共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/159.wav",
        "text": "這是涉及到整個修憲的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/160.wav",
        "text": "了以現在來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/161.wav",
        "text": "我的意思就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/162.wav",
        "text": "針對平埔族群這樣一個修法的工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/163.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛提到的是方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/164.wav",
        "text": "但是涉及到修憲這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/165.wav",
        "text": "它本身對修憲是沒有興趣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/166.wav",
        "text": "你該怎麼樣去保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/167.wav",
        "text": "這些即將回復原住民族身分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/168.wav",
        "text": "平埔族的權益我談的是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/169.wav",
        "text": "我談的是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/170.wav",
        "text": "是因為當時在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/171.wav",
        "text": "釋憲裡面就提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/172.wav",
        "text": "就平埔族相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/173.wav",
        "text": "權利的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/174.wav",
        "text": "是要考量各民族發展的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/175.wav",
        "text": "歷史脈絡跟現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/176.wav",
        "text": "來斟酌國家的資源分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/177.wav",
        "text": "我們會用另外一個法律來訂定用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/178.wav",
        "text": "另外一個法律來訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/179.wav",
        "text": "所以你們都已經規劃好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/180.wav",
        "text": "目前我們的草案裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/181.wav",
        "text": "有分甲案乙案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/182.wav",
        "text": "來做一個討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/183.wav",
        "text": "對我們現有的原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/184.wav",
        "text": "跟平埔族群來做一個討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/185.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/186.wav",
        "text": "他這個提案又有創意了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/187.wav",
        "text": "他說未來行政院長提名原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/188.wav",
        "text": "主委以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/189.wav",
        "text": "還要經過全國具有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/190.wav",
        "text": "身分的議員鄉鎮長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/191.wav",
        "text": "來召開審查會才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/192.wav",
        "text": "同意第一個當然我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/193.wav",
        "text": "責任政治的混亂原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/194.wav",
        "text": "是行政院轄下的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/195.wav",
        "text": "部會跟行政院一同對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/196.wav",
        "text": "立法院負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/197.wav",
        "text": "如果說原民會的首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/198.wav",
        "text": "還要經過全國具有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/199.wav",
        "text": "身分的議員鄉鎮長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/200.wav",
        "text": "同意以後才能夠任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/201.wav",
        "text": "當然今天有人會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/202.wav",
        "text": "舉例是不是警政署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/203.wav",
        "text": "要全國警察同意才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/204.wav",
        "text": "任命體育署長要全國運動員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/205.wav",
        "text": "同意才能任命不同的命題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/206.wav",
        "text": "啦但對於原住民族自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/207.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我倒認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/208.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個提案反而範圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/209.wav",
        "text": "不夠魄力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/210.wav",
        "text": "但我問的是會產生什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/211.wav",
        "text": "樣的影響我看你們好像覺得無關緊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/212.wav",
        "text": "可能會對整個原住民族政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/213.wav",
        "text": "未來在執行上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/214.wav",
        "text": "院長提名總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/215.wav",
        "text": "他有一定的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/216.wav",
        "text": "跟政務官的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/217.wav",
        "text": "但如果又要經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/218.wav",
        "text": "地方民意代表同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/219.wav",
        "text": "實際上我們認為這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/220.wav",
        "text": "對於原民政策的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/221.wav",
        "text": "會有所錯置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/222.wav",
        "text": "除非有整個配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/223.wav",
        "text": "當然會有衝突啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/224.wav",
        "text": "一定會有衝突啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/225.wav",
        "text": "以責任政治來講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/226.wav",
        "text": "誰任命誰要負最終局的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/227.wav",
        "text": "但是如果你是地方的民代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/228.wav",
        "text": "不管是議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/229.wav",
        "text": "或者是鄉鎮長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/230.wav",
        "text": "政治利益或者是地方上的一個利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/231.wav",
        "text": "跟整個施政也許"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/232.wav",
        "text": "會有衝突的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/233.wav",
        "text": "跟原民會的職責也會有衝突的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/234.wav",
        "text": "到最後受害的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/235.wav",
        "text": "還是回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/236.wav",
        "text": "整個原住民的族群這個就不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/237.wav",
        "text": "這個就不公平了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/238.wav",
        "text": "所以我看你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/239.wav",
        "text": "對於今天這樣一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/240.wav",
        "text": "也許你都還沒有自己的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/241.wav",
        "text": "所以我才覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/242.wav",
        "text": "以你的層級來看這一題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/243.wav",
        "text": "其實這個還涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/244.wav",
        "text": "這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/245.wav",
        "text": "其實你們要先有答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/246.wav",
        "text": "要先想好今天備詢的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/247.wav",
        "text": "答案這樣是不行的啦好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/248.wav",
        "text": "要加油啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154349/249.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我想要請林佳龍林部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/1.wav",
        "text": "請林部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/2.wav",
        "text": "林部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/3.wav",
        "text": "說起來對你有點為難因為你才剛上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/4.wav",
        "text": "但我今天要問的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/5.wav",
        "text": "很多都是發生在前一任吳釗燮部長的任內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/6.wav",
        "text": "但是我相信你會有決心改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/7.wav",
        "text": "希望讓這樣子的事情不再發生對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/8.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/9.wav",
        "text": "我們發現駐美代表處的問題可以說是非常的多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/10.wav",
        "text": "在過去我們馬文君召委曾經揭露一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/11.wav",
        "text": "不允許分手大家可以自己看文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/12.wav",
        "text": "請問一下後來這一位焦姓參事還在外交部任職嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/13.wav",
        "text": "他的職務現在是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/14.wav",
        "text": "在部內他的職務是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/15.wav",
        "text": "副司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/16.wav",
        "text": "歐洲司副司長嘛從駐美參事到歐洲司的副司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/17.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/18.wav",
        "text": "他外遇PUA之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/19.wav",
        "text": "有很好的職務可以擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/20.wav",
        "text": "你們大家對於這個事情沒有太多的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/21.wav",
        "text": "我們北美司長想要說明因為他比較瞭解這個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/22.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告他現在是我們的副司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/23.wav",
        "text": "我是在駐美代表處的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/24.wav",
        "text": "我有曾經問過我們國會組的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/25.wav",
        "text": "沒有人說有被他情緒勒索等任何的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/26.wav",
        "text": "我們在駐美代表處所做的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/27.wav",
        "text": "跟同仁的訪談我們都有做成書面的紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/28.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個黑函沒有這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/29.wav",
        "text": "就是我們新聞在報的俞大㵢代表的夫人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/30.wav",
        "text": "不喜歡某一位事務官認為他服務不周而被換掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/31.wav",
        "text": "後來又遭到行政組魏姓組長對他的霸凌據說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/32.wav",
        "text": "就是剛剛這一位前駐美參事焦先生的妻子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/33.wav",
        "text": "你們都說沒有收到陳情書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/34.wav",
        "text": "現在我手上有一份陳情書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/35.wav",
        "text": "我想要請主席裁示讓我把這份陳情書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/36.wav",
        "text": "遞交給我們的外交部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/37.wav",
        "text": "這個員工數次表示自己的職務太繁重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/38.wav",
        "text": "希望可以重新分工已經超過負荷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/39.wav",
        "text": "但是還要被強加更多的職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/40.wav",
        "text": "還有業務上碰到困難要反映的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/41.wav",
        "text": "會先批評他的做事方式工作上面求救無效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/42.wav",
        "text": "已經沒有辦法負擔之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/43.wav",
        "text": "卻沒有辦法找到其他的管道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/44.wav",
        "text": "在這個群組上質疑他然後也沒有求證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/45.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分既然現在已經有人來陳情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/46.wav",
        "text": "部長是否能夠同意回去調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/47.wav",
        "text": "再將結果回復給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/48.wav",
        "text": "再確認這件事情是否為真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/49.wav",
        "text": "請問部長能夠在多久的時間之內做到呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/50.wav",
        "text": "好委員剛剛給我的這一份資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/51.wav",
        "text": "於是不是正式的陳情當然我也會瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/52.wav",
        "text": "不過有這個資料我們也會來瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/53.wav",
        "text": "你們大概需要多久的時間能夠調查完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/54.wav",
        "text": "再跟我說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/55.wav",
        "text": "應該是一個月內我們可以把這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/56.wav",
        "text": "好然後我們再看到外交部霸凌事件頻傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/57.wav",
        "text": "這是我們整理出來所有外交部過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/58.wav",
        "text": "相關的事件這個也不能怪您當時您也不是外交部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/59.wav",
        "text": "在吳釗燮任內的外交部官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/60.wav",
        "text": "頻頻傳出遭到霸凌輕生還有涉及性騷擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/61.wav",
        "text": "#MeToo等等的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/62.wav",
        "text": "到處都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/63.wav",
        "text": "除了上過新聞的霸凌跟#MeToo的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/64.wav",
        "text": "外再來看一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/65.wav",
        "text": "我們的駐美代表處休士頓辦事處的羅姓處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/66.wav",
        "text": "是否因為涉及婚外情糾紛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/67.wav",
        "text": "而由外交部調回外交學院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/68.wav",
        "text": "請問部長這個人還在我們的外交部嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/69.wav",
        "text": "他是否當時有涉及這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/70.wav",
        "text": "我是不是請人事處長講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/71.wav",
        "text": "沒問題請來幫忙補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/72.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/73.wav",
        "text": "他有沒有發生過上面我所指的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/74.wav",
        "text": "至於他是不是婚外情這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/75.wav",
        "text": "我們基本上沒有辦法完全求證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/76.wav",
        "text": "而當時把他調回來的原因是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/77.wav",
        "text": "在僑務問題的處理上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/78.wav",
        "text": "他可能沒有辦法發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/79.wav",
        "text": "經過內部討論之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/80.wav",
        "text": "他有沒有對於他們部內的基層員工進行霸凌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/81.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有瞭解過這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/82.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/83.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有接到但是我有接到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/84.wav",
        "text": "的霸凌行徑是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/85.wav",
        "text": "我們駐美處的專員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/86.wav",
        "text": "被羅姓處長要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/87.wav",
        "text": "每天上班的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/88.wav",
        "text": "只能坐在電腦桌前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/89.wav",
        "text": "不能開電腦不能做任何事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/90.wav",
        "text": "就是呆呆的坐在前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/91.wav",
        "text": "8個小時再回家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/92.wav",
        "text": "已經逼到對方快要輕生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/93.wav",
        "text": "了所以現在這名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/94.wav",
        "text": "在我們的外交部持續任職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/95.wav",
        "text": "部長這個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/96.wav",
        "text": "您一定是不知情的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/97.wav",
        "text": "請問是不是也可以進行調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/98.wav",
        "text": "做一個全面性的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/99.wav",
        "text": "我們會來瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/100.wav",
        "text": "因為如果涉及到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/101.wav",
        "text": "性騷擾"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/102.wav",
        "text": "或者是這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/103.wav",
        "text": "可是所謂的霸凌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/104.wav",
        "text": "還有內部領導或管理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/105.wav",
        "text": "當然外館"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/106.wav",
        "text": "要負起全責"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/107.wav",
        "text": "因為有時候是工作上分工的關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/108.wav",
        "text": "那是不是構成到霸凌"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/109.wav",
        "text": "這個也是要再加以釐清"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/110.wav",
        "text": "不能說大家自己官官相護"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/111.wav",
        "text": "這是我的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/112.wav",
        "text": "被爆料的包含"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/113.wav",
        "text": "兩張超級貴的床墊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/114.wav",
        "text": "藍芽音響咖啡機跟地毯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/115.wav",
        "text": "不過就你們提供給我們的資料"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/116.wav",
        "text": "報紙上面的這些報導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/117.wav",
        "text": "跟實際上面的價格"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/118.wav",
        "text": "是不太一樣的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/119.wav",
        "text": "報導的價格可以看下一張"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/120.wav",
        "text": "簡報這個跟你們提供給我們資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/121.wav",
        "text": "是有出入的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/122.wav",
        "text": "剛才部長也講了大概兩百多萬左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/123.wav",
        "text": "但是我"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/124.wav",
        "text": "想問一個問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/125.wav",
        "text": "一萬美元以上的項目"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/126.wav",
        "text": "對於一萬美元以下的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/127.wav",
        "text": "你們會不會再針對這個部分進行調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/128.wav",
        "text": "看他有沒有挪用公款的情況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/129.wav",
        "text": "這是一萬元新臺幣不是美元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/130.wav",
        "text": "一定層級的主管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/131.wav",
        "text": "可以應處各種的需求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/132.wav",
        "text": "外交部回復本辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/133.wav",
        "text": "是否有去購買的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/134.wav",
        "text": "你們提供給我的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/135.wav",
        "text": "叫做駐美代表處"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/136.wav",
        "text": "113年並未提出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/137.wav",
        "text": "購置館長座車之需求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/138.wav",
        "text": "該處館長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/139.wav",
        "text": "座車已於"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/140.wav",
        "text": "111年5月"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/141.wav",
        "text": "購置完畢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/142.wav",
        "text": "可是你們在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/143.wav",
        "text": "新聞記者會的說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/144.wav",
        "text": "資料裡面寫的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/145.wav",
        "text": "外交部並沒有同意相關的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/146.wav",
        "text": "採購車輛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/147.wav",
        "text": "意思是對方有提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/148.wav",
        "text": "但是你們沒有同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/149.wav",
        "text": "請問哪一份才是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/150.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/151.wav",
        "text": "確實是沒有提出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/152.wav",
        "text": "新聞稿裡面說外交部並沒有同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/153.wav",
        "text": "所以是公務車的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/154.wav",
        "text": "所以除了這台Benz之外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/155.wav",
        "text": "他還額外希望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/156.wav",
        "text": "要買一台公務車是凱迪拉克"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/157.wav",
        "text": "但是外交部沒有同意"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/158.wav",
        "text": "這樣的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/159.wav",
        "text": "駐美代表處發生了這麼多的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/160.wav",
        "text": "不只駐美代表處我們的外館"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/161.wav",
        "text": "發生了這麼多霸凌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/162.wav",
        "text": "性騷等各式各樣的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/163.wav",
        "text": "傳出來希望我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/164.wav",
        "text": "可以勇於把過去的真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/165.wav",
        "text": "調查出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/166.wav",
        "text": "因為很多人都在等待這個真相"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/167.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/168.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/169.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來請王定宇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154350/170.wav",
        "text": "召委上台質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/1.wav",
        "text": "我想要請陳部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/2.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/3.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/4.wav",
        "text": "部長早"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/5.wav",
        "text": "我看到你們的報告當中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/6.wav",
        "text": "以我們現在農業的勞動人口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/7.wav",
        "text": "來講其實50歲以上的勞動人口都算是年輕"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/8.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/9.wav",
        "text": "以農業來說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/10.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/11.wav",
        "text": "平均是53歲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/12.wav",
        "text": "我先提供一個數據"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/13.wav",
        "text": "其中大於65歲的才11%"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/14.wav",
        "text": "換句話說65歲以下的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/15.wav",
        "text": "大概占90%左右"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/16.wav",
        "text": "那50歲以上的呢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/17.wav",
        "text": "部分根據我這邊的數據小於45歲的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/18.wav",
        "text": "是12.6萬人"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/19.wav",
        "text": "45歲至64歲的是27.3萬人"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/20.wav",
        "text": "這樣推估起來差不多將近20萬人左右"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/21.wav",
        "text": "所以大部分都是在50歲上下"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/22.wav",
        "text": "其實這代表了農業的缺工是非常嚴重的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/23.wav",
        "text": "相信你也非常清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/24.wav",
        "text": "針對農業缺工"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/25.wav",
        "text": "你的報告也提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/26.wav",
        "text": "針對小農的缺工"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/27.wav",
        "text": "他如果要自己去找工人或者是引進勞工"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/28.wav",
        "text": "是不是比較困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/29.wav",
        "text": "很多人是用合聘的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/30.wav",
        "text": "請問你們怎麼樣解決外展農業服務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/31.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/32.wav",
        "text": "成本大概是4萬塊左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/33.wav",
        "text": "所以如果你自己是小面積"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/34.wav",
        "text": "你去請一個外籍移工的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/35.wav",
        "text": "會非常困難"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/36.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是鼓勵用合作社的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/37.wav",
        "text": "共同經營的方式去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/38.wav",
        "text": "有我們還是有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/39.wav",
        "text": "但過去就是成效不彰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/40.wav",
        "text": "啊第一個有一些就是不願意做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/41.wav",
        "text": "有一些不願意留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/42.wav",
        "text": "你們未來怎麼樣改善這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/43.wav",
        "text": "我想分為兩個層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/44.wav",
        "text": "首先我們會強化現在本國的人力團"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/45.wav",
        "text": "46團大概有1,500人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/46.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是有一些可以用機械化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/47.wav",
        "text": "自動化替代的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/48.wav",
        "text": "我們會組成一些農事服務業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/49.wav",
        "text": "然後透過機械化的部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/50.wav",
        "text": "來協助他們去處理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/51.wav",
        "text": "第三個部分像"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/52.wav",
        "text": "我們用人機輔具的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/53.wav",
        "text": "來節省人力同樣的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/54.wav",
        "text": "但是能夠增加他的效率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/55.wav",
        "text": "對但是我們知道像水稻雜糧等等可以機械化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/56.wav",
        "text": "但是很多的例如我們剛才說到的花卉"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/57.wav",
        "text": "花卉果樹"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/58.wav",
        "text": "我們會降低申請的門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/59.wav",
        "text": "就是我們會去重評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/60.wav",
        "text": "以前也許訂的比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/61.wav",
        "text": "我們會降低門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/62.wav",
        "text": "讓他更有機會能夠申請到外籍移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/63.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分原來沒有開放的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/64.wav",
        "text": "但是的確是有需求的像草皮芽菜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/65.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/66.wav",
        "text": "還有大家關注蛋的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/67.wav",
        "text": "去年是缺蛋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/68.wav",
        "text": "今年卻是蛋過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/69.wav",
        "text": "我想要請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/70.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會發生這樣子的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/71.wav",
        "text": "我想分為兩個層次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/72.wav",
        "text": "有一部分已經升級了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/73.wav",
        "text": "他們是用原來的觀念去淘汰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/74.wav",
        "text": "所以我們有一些誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/75.wav",
        "text": "去加速他的老母雞的淘汰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/76.wav",
        "text": "這是一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/77.wav",
        "text": "另外一個問題是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/78.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的消費量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/79.wav",
        "text": "比過往的平均還低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/80.wav",
        "text": "是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/81.wav",
        "text": "因為是價格的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/82.wav",
        "text": "那是價格的關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/83.wav",
        "text": "是不是因為兩個價差的關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/84.wav",
        "text": "所以導致民眾不願意消費"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/85.wav",
        "text": "嘛沒有需求的情況下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/86.wav",
        "text": "產地的蛋就過剩了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/87.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/88.wav",
        "text": "對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/89.wav",
        "text": "所以我們一直呼籲消費民眾"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/90.wav",
        "text": "就是產地價在跌的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/91.wav",
        "text": "消費地的價格都不動的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/92.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我們還是希望消費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/93.wav",
        "text": "在這個問題上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/94.wav",
        "text": "消費者跟農民同樣都受傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/95.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/96.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/97.wav",
        "text": "消費者也沒有享受到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/98.wav",
        "text": "蛋過剩它們低價的便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/99.wav",
        "text": "而農民卻又受到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/100.wav",
        "text": "蛋產量過剩的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/101.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/102.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/103.wav",
        "text": "這個農委會也要解決啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/104.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/105.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/106.wav",
        "text": "我們現在有一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/107.wav",
        "text": "就是跟超市賣場合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/108.wav",
        "text": "能夠有一些比較平價的方式去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/109.wav",
        "text": "刺激他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/110.wav",
        "text": "超市賣場已經開始有這樣的行動了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/111.wav",
        "text": "所以什麼時候會開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/112.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/113.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們跟超市賣場協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/114.wav",
        "text": "那超市賣場有一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/115.wav",
        "text": "我們希望這個降價能夠帶動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/116.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/117.wav",
        "text": "不會再影響到產地蛋的售價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/118.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/119.wav",
        "text": "是因為這是惡性循環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/120.wav",
        "text": "這樣會惡性循環下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/121.wav",
        "text": "永遠都沒有辦法解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/122.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/123.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/124.wav",
        "text": "再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/125.wav",
        "text": "現在農業部在推廣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/126.wav",
        "text": "就是希望輔導農民使用氰滿素來催芽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/127.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/128.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/129.wav",
        "text": "但是我發現了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/130.wav",
        "text": "我在觀摩當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/131.wav",
        "text": "你們認為氰滿素的導入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/132.wav",
        "text": "農民可以自己噴藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/133.wav",
        "text": "但是實際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/134.wav",
        "text": "農民現在還是仰賴人工催芽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/135.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/136.wav",
        "text": "他們還沒有辦法自己催芽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/137.wav",
        "text": "動植物防檢局預估這個成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/138.wav",
        "text": "跟實際催芽的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/139.wav",
        "text": "的確還有差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/140.wav",
        "text": "過去我們希望輔導農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/141.wav",
        "text": "用氰滿素來催芽的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/142.wav",
        "text": "第一個估算的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/143.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/144.wav",
        "text": "還發生了氣候的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/145.wav",
        "text": "也跟過往不同了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/146.wav",
        "text": "現在因為氣候變遷的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/147.wav",
        "text": "導致芽太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/148.wav",
        "text": "首先藥劑要怎麼樣使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/149.wav",
        "text": "到底催芽要怎麼樣子做調適"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/150.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法這樣做調適"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/151.wav",
        "text": "或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/152.wav",
        "text": "他們可能要用另外一個抑制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/153.wav",
        "text": "過去也是農委會推薦了克美素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/154.wav",
        "text": "素克美素目前在食藥署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/155.wav",
        "text": "並沒有訂任何的殘留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/156.wav",
        "text": "那在沒有訂殘留情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/157.wav",
        "text": "他們可不可以用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/158.wav",
        "text": "那不能用藥的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/159.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣解決目前催芽的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/160.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/161.wav",
        "text": "就是有關於氰滿素本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/162.wav",
        "text": "我們的輔導方式是用噴的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/163.wav",
        "text": "嘛但是農民的習性過去是用點的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/164.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我們一定會去加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/165.wav",
        "text": "特別在彰化地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/166.wav",
        "text": "我們臺中場會去加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/167.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/168.wav",
        "text": "當然你現在都是優化技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/169.wav",
        "text": "但是我說的是農民過往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/170.wav",
        "text": "了因為這個東西他們過往是用外包的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/171.wav",
        "text": "所以他們本身就沒有具備催芽的技能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/172.wav",
        "text": "我們今天如果要做這樣子的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/173.wav",
        "text": "你也要花一些時間去導入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/174.wav",
        "text": "對於農民這樣子的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/175.wav",
        "text": "你剛才說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/176.wav",
        "text": "了要誘導他進入這個政策的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/177.wav",
        "text": "必須要給他誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/178.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼樣提供他們誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/179.wav",
        "text": "過去農業部說要導入氰滿素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/180.wav",
        "text": "是希望可以先減氰滿素用藥的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/181.wav",
        "text": "就是催芽劑的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/182.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣做相關的補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/183.wav",
        "text": "我們會去思考一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/184.wav",
        "text": "但是我們基本上不傾向直接用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/185.wav",
        "text": "因為藥的部分我們很少用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/186.wav",
        "text": "藥的部分去做補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/187.wav",
        "text": "但是也許用產業輔導的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/188.wav",
        "text": "去協助特別是葡萄農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/189.wav",
        "text": "他們能夠從原來的手工轉成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/190.wav",
        "text": "用噴霧的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/191.wav",
        "text": "這個我們會來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/192.wav",
        "text": "這個部分你們一定要妥善地思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/193.wav",
        "text": "因為這個東西是當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/194.wav",
        "text": "劑使用氰滿素的這個過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/195.wav",
        "text": "讓所有農民慢慢地去使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/196.wav",
        "text": "又發生了氣候的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/197.wav",
        "text": "導致他們又要使用新的藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/198.wav",
        "text": "這個東西也要去輔導他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/199.wav",
        "text": "協助他們瞭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/200.wav",
        "text": "在整個新的技術導入的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/201.wav",
        "text": "及協助機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/202.wav",
        "text": "這個我們會來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/203.wav",
        "text": "另外克美素的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/204.wav",
        "text": "我們知道大概明年應該就可以有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154351/205.wav",
        "text": "現在有大概有0.6ppm"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席麻煩部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/2.wav",
        "text": "外交總是充滿困難的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/3.wav",
        "text": "我們常常是希望給外交人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/4.wav",
        "text": "不管在國外或國內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/5.wav",
        "text": "都給予最大的支持跟鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/6.wav",
        "text": "但是一旦有了黑函"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/7.wav",
        "text": "有了醜聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/8.wav",
        "text": "有了這樣的傳聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/9.wav",
        "text": "不管是否為真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/10.wav",
        "text": "對於該駐館工作的執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/11.wav",
        "text": "人員的士氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/12.wav",
        "text": "都有相當大的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/13.wav",
        "text": "所以本席期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/14.wav",
        "text": "部長對於相關的傳聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/15.wav",
        "text": "甚至於有時候臨時問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/16.wav",
        "text": "你根本沒辦法辨別真假"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/17.wav",
        "text": "像我剛才聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/18.wav",
        "text": "我不認為現在年輕的外交官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/19.wav",
        "text": "可以被處長館長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/20.wav",
        "text": "叫去坐在電腦前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/21.wav",
        "text": "盯著那個螢幕不准開機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/22.wav",
        "text": "現在公務員也不容許這樣被對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/23.wav",
        "text": "所以是否為真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/24.wav",
        "text": "要儘速有個答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/25.wav",
        "text": "哪怕是在半夜都應該有答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/26.wav",
        "text": "我們再來瞭解看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/27.wav",
        "text": "因為一旦傳聞被傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/28.wav",
        "text": "後面雖證明不是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/29.wav",
        "text": "傷害都已造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/30.wav",
        "text": "更何況外交人員代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/31.wav",
        "text": "的是我們國家的門面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/32.wav",
        "text": "是我們臺灣最重要的外交單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/33.wav",
        "text": "不要拖過24個小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/34.wav",
        "text": "儘速有個答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/35.wav",
        "text": "比方說他要換車後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/36.wav",
        "text": "看起來是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/37.wav",
        "text": "嘛他自己的車沒有要換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/38.wav",
        "text": "他希望有個車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/39.wav",
        "text": "這些東西都可以條列出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/40.wav",
        "text": "是否允當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/41.wav",
        "text": "我們也不是要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/42.wav",
        "text": "我們駐外人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/43.wav",
        "text": "每個人都要有補丁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/44.wav",
        "text": "要過得清苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/45.wav",
        "text": "們是代表國家的門面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/46.wav",
        "text": "就像國外的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/47.wav",
        "text": "外國大使駐在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/48.wav",
        "text": "他們要求的館舍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/49.wav",
        "text": "大概都是帝寶等級的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/50.wav",
        "text": "這都一定是代表國家顏面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/51.wav",
        "text": "所以在合宜合理的範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/52.wav",
        "text": "我覺得部長你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/53.wav",
        "text": "應該就這樣的傳聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/54.wav",
        "text": "儘速釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/55.wav",
        "text": "否則每次有人事異動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/56.wav",
        "text": "像是部長換了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/57.wav",
        "text": "以往當然有的是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/58.wav",
        "text": "像秦日新那個就真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/59.wav",
        "text": "嘛發生那個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/60.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼處分就該怎麼處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/61.wav",
        "text": "所以不要包庇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/62.wav",
        "text": "但是牽涉到國家外交事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/63.wav",
        "text": "特別美國現在在總統大選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/64.wav",
        "text": "在這樣的狀況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/65.wav",
        "text": "美處的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/66.wav",
        "text": "就不容許這樣延燒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/67.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得部長你從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/68.wav",
        "text": "美處發生這樣的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/69.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/70.wav",
        "text": "所有的傳聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/71.wav",
        "text": "你們到底掌握了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/72.wav",
        "text": "我都有收到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/73.wav",
        "text": "採購的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/74.wav",
        "text": "我們把它釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/75.wav",
        "text": "管理的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/76.wav",
        "text": "採購有沒有如同傳聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/77.wav",
        "text": "或者報導的那個狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/78.wav",
        "text": "外面講說800萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/79.wav",
        "text": "也有跟記者說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/80.wav",
        "text": "扣掉了那些硬體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/81.wav",
        "text": "就是備用的發電機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/82.wav",
        "text": "事實上上半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/83.wav",
        "text": "就是大概7萬美金左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/84.wav",
        "text": "7萬美金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/85.wav",
        "text": "所以兩百多萬臺幣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/86.wav",
        "text": "外交部的判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/87.wav",
        "text": "規範的範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/88.wav",
        "text": "它就是它是合乎規範的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/89.wav",
        "text": "部長也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/90.wav",
        "text": "或者我們北美司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/91.wav",
        "text": "拜託一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/92.wav",
        "text": "這個事情應該是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/93.wav",
        "text": "明確的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/94.wav",
        "text": "有不當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/95.wav",
        "text": "該怎麼處理就怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/96.wav",
        "text": "我也不認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/97.wav",
        "text": "現在有哪個官大到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/98.wav",
        "text": "可以非他不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/99.wav",
        "text": "但是如果沒有不當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/100.wav",
        "text": "也應該要明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/101.wav",
        "text": "否則這樣在外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/102.wav",
        "text": "裡面這樣放火燒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/103.wav",
        "text": "對國家不是好事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/104.wav",
        "text": "我在意的不是一個個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/105.wav",
        "text": "或一個外交官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/106.wav",
        "text": "而是這個事情處理的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/107.wav",
        "text": "外交部應該要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/108.wav",
        "text": "明瞭而迅速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/109.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/110.wav",
        "text": "的就是因為外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/111.wav",
        "text": "有人不滿才提供了這個資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/112.wav",
        "text": "也給委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/113.wav",
        "text": "後來也給媒體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/114.wav",
        "text": "這是另外一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/115.wav",
        "text": "內部的領導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/116.wav",
        "text": "管理的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/117.wav",
        "text": "但是我認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/118.wav",
        "text": "為已經發生了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/119.wav",
        "text": "我們就要來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/120.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/121.wav",
        "text": "人的不滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/122.wav",
        "text": "現代社會都會有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/123.wav",
        "text": "啦寫信很方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/124.wav",
        "text": "手機就可以寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/125.wav",
        "text": "但我的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/126.wav",
        "text": "站在外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/127.wav",
        "text": "他作為國家的門面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/128.wav",
        "text": "你應該去思考的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/129.wav",
        "text": "他所傳出來的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/130.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/131.wav",
        "text": "有沒有涉及不法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/132.wav",
        "text": "沒有就說沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/133.wav",
        "text": "有的話就移送法辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/134.wav",
        "text": "再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/135.wav",
        "text": "有沒有合於我們長年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/136.wav",
        "text": "數十年累積的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/137.wav",
        "text": "外交規範跟禮儀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/138.wav",
        "text": "也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/139.wav",
        "text": "那就說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/140.wav",
        "text": "最後有沒有涉及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/141.wav",
        "text": "私德不當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/142.wav",
        "text": "如果這三個都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/143.wav",
        "text": "只是說我感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/144.wav",
        "text": "覺得你對我不禮貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/145.wav",
        "text": "那個就讓社會來公評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/146.wav",
        "text": "而不是說大家不能講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/147.wav",
        "text": "可以講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/148.wav",
        "text": "但是前面這三塊很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/149.wav",
        "text": "因為這三塊如果回答得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/150.wav",
        "text": "不清不楚的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/151.wav",
        "text": "我坦白講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/152.wav",
        "text": "其他的館處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/153.wav",
        "text": "也可以有樣學樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/154.wav",
        "text": "那我們臺灣的外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/155.wav",
        "text": "已經這麼辛苦的狀態下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/156.wav",
        "text": "還能做事嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/157.wav",
        "text": "你懂我意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/158.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/159.wav",
        "text": "所以委員我在第一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/160.wav",
        "text": "回應外界就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/161.wav",
        "text": "這個事情沒有不法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/162.wav",
        "text": "係依照採購的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/163.wav",
        "text": "但是不是有它的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/164.wav",
        "text": "跟合理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/165.wav",
        "text": "這就要依項目去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/166.wav",
        "text": "這一點我現在沒有定見答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/167.wav",
        "text": "因為我沒有看到資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/168.wav",
        "text": "我只能建議部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/169.wav",
        "text": "在最快的時間內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/170.wav",
        "text": "不要再過了24小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/171.wav",
        "text": "了很清楚地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/172.wav",
        "text": "就法律規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/173.wav",
        "text": "一般外交的禮儀規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/174.wav",
        "text": "以及就私德的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/175.wav",
        "text": "這三塊有或沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/176.wav",
        "text": "來做釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/177.wav",
        "text": "現在24小時都可以通電話了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/178.wav",
        "text": "這樣子讓國人知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/179.wav",
        "text": "道這可能是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/180.wav",
        "text": "人跟人的相處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/181.wav",
        "text": "或者人事問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/182.wav",
        "text": "或者怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/183.wav",
        "text": "講的人就講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/184.wav",
        "text": "有個價值判斷而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/185.wav",
        "text": "但至少這三塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/186.wav",
        "text": "有沒有清清楚楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/187.wav",
        "text": "這要儘快啦好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/188.wav",
        "text": "我接下來請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/189.wav",
        "text": "我們跟梵蒂岡的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/190.wav",
        "text": "梵蒂岡現在是我們在歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/191.wav",
        "text": "外交關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/192.wav",
        "text": "教廷國跟中國之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/193.wav",
        "text": "在這一任的教宗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/194.wav",
        "text": "他一直希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/195.wav",
        "text": "他有個歷史成就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/196.wav",
        "text": "歷史定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/197.wav",
        "text": "也就是照顧中國教區的信徒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/198.wav",
        "text": "我們對這沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/199.wav",
        "text": "天主教有它神權國家的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/200.wav",
        "text": "中共一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/201.wav",
        "text": "是無神論國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/202.wav",
        "text": "叫做愛國主教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/203.wav",
        "text": "愛國神職人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/204.wav",
        "text": "都要它來任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/205.wav",
        "text": "所以一直有牴觸下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/206.wav",
        "text": "但從這一任教宗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/207.wav",
        "text": "在前幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/208.wav",
        "text": "由香港的主教向臺灣提出警告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/209.wav",
        "text": "我們就一直在密切注意這個事情了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/210.wav",
        "text": "這幾天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/211.wav",
        "text": "中共的官媒環球網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/212.wav",
        "text": "很罕見地報導了兩件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/213.wav",
        "text": "一個是承認梵蒂岡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/214.wav",
        "text": "任命杭州主教作標題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/215.wav",
        "text": "等於是承認它任命主教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/216.wav",
        "text": "第二個是梵蒂岡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/217.wav",
        "text": "希望在中國設立常設辦事處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/218.wav",
        "text": "就這個消息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/219.wav",
        "text": "因為環球網我常看到假消息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/220.wav",
        "text": "所以我第一個要請教外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/221.wav",
        "text": "或者我們歐洲司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/222.wav",
        "text": "這個報導是否為真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/223.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/224.wav",
        "text": "我們跟教廷國目前的邦交狀況為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/225.wav",
        "text": "是不是請回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/226.wav",
        "text": "有關於這個報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/227.wav",
        "text": "兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/228.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/229.wav",
        "text": "教廷他任命了這個主教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/230.wav",
        "text": "杭州主教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/231.wav",
        "text": "杭州主教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/232.wav",
        "text": "這件事情是為真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/233.wav",
        "text": "這是真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/234.wav",
        "text": "所以中國讓教廷國可以派主教了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/235.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/236.wav",
        "text": "因為他們有一個臨時的主教任命協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/237.wav",
        "text": "他們是依據他們的臨時主教任命協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/238.wav",
        "text": "中國在這個過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/239.wav",
        "text": "也扮演他們自己的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/240.wav",
        "text": "因為教廷國長期以來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/241.wav",
        "text": "認為任命主教權是神權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/242.wav",
        "text": "不能有協調的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/243.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/244.wav",
        "text": "但是所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/245.wav",
        "text": "杭州這個主教是經過協調任命出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/246.wav",
        "text": "依據他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/247.wav",
        "text": "現在已經應該是第5年或第6年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/248.wav",
        "text": "有一個臨時協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/249.wav",
        "text": "對有一個臨時協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/250.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/251.wav",
        "text": "教廷希望在那越南也是有類似的處理方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/252.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/253.wav",
        "text": "教廷希望在中國設辦事處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/254.wav",
        "text": "這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/255.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/256.wav",
        "text": "教廷已經說了非常多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/257.wav",
        "text": "依據教廷的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/258.wav",
        "text": "中國一直在這個問題上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/259.wav",
        "text": "如果是有這個代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/260.wav",
        "text": "那是教宗的代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/261.wav",
        "text": "但是中國是一個無神論的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/262.wav",
        "text": "時間到了我最後請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/263.wav",
        "text": "我們現在跟教廷國的邦交狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/264.wav",
        "text": "譬如說在520總統就職的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/265.wav",
        "text": "教廷也派遣了特使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/266.wav",
        "text": "你們現在還有沒有在用燈號標示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/267.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/268.wav",
        "text": "它現在是什麼燈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/269.wav",
        "text": "這部分好像是機密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/270.wav",
        "text": "我可以跟委員再另行報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/271.wav",
        "text": "機密我尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/272.wav",
        "text": "坦白講我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/273.wav",
        "text": "每個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/274.wav",
        "text": "沒有一個局勢是可以樂觀的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/275.wav",
        "text": "很多蛛絲馬跡還是要注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/276.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/277.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154352/278.wav",
        "text": "目前我們收到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/0.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/1.wav",
        "text": "在場的委員先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/2.wav",
        "text": "列席的政府機關首長官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/3.wav",
        "text": "會場工作夥伴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/4.wav",
        "text": "媒體記者女士先生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/5.wav",
        "text": "有請鍾副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/6.wav",
        "text": "麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/7.wav",
        "text": "主委好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/8.wav",
        "text": "主委你是不是中華民國人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/9.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/10.wav",
        "text": "我是不是中華民國人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/11.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/12.wav",
        "text": "所以根據憲法第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/13.wav",
        "text": "中華民國人民不分男女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/14.wav",
        "text": "宗教種族階級黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/15.wav",
        "text": "在法律上一律平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/16.wav",
        "text": "這意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/17.wav",
        "text": "我跟你同不同種族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/18.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/19.wav",
        "text": "我們同宗但不同族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/20.wav",
        "text": "啦我們有沒有平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/21.wav",
        "text": "平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/22.wav",
        "text": "要平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/23.wav",
        "text": "好所以我們根據憲法第十七條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/24.wav",
        "text": "我們都有平等參與選舉的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/25.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/26.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/27.wav",
        "text": "所以你可不可以選總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/28.wav",
        "text": "可以嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/29.wav",
        "text": "我可不可以選總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/30.wav",
        "text": "所以我們平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/31.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/32.wav",
        "text": "根據憲法第十八條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/33.wav",
        "text": "我們有應考試服公職的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/34.wav",
        "text": "我可不可以去參加公務人員考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/35.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有參加公務人員考試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/36.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/37.wav",
        "text": "你可以當公務員對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/38.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/39.wav",
        "text": "我可不可以當公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/40.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/41.wav",
        "text": "我們平等嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/42.wav",
        "text": "好那我請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/43.wav",
        "text": "現任的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/44.wav",
        "text": "這次總統大選你有投票嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/45.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/46.wav",
        "text": "我也有投票嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/47.wav",
        "text": "不管我們有沒有投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/48.wav",
        "text": "現任的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/49.wav",
        "text": "是我們國家的元首"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/50.wav",
        "text": "代表了你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/51.wav",
        "text": "也代表了我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/52.wav",
        "text": "你同不同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/53.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/54.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/55.wav",
        "text": "參與這次立委的投票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/56.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/57.wav",
        "text": "我也參與立委投票嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/58.wav",
        "text": "我們選的是不同人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/59.wav",
        "text": "一定的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/60.wav",
        "text": "你不能投我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/61.wav",
        "text": "我也不可能投原民的立委嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/62.wav",
        "text": "但是不管現在的立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/63.wav",
        "text": "原民的立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/64.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有投票給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/65.wav",
        "text": "他都代表你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/66.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/67.wav",
        "text": "投給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/68.wav",
        "text": "當然代表我自己啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/69.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/70.wav",
        "text": "請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/71.wav",
        "text": "目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/72.wav",
        "text": "大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/73.wav",
        "text": "考試委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/74.wav",
        "text": "監察委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/75.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有投票給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/76.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/77.wav",
        "text": "他可不可以代表你跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/78.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/79.wav",
        "text": "因為他是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/80.wav",
        "text": "由我們選出來的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/81.wav",
        "text": "所提名的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/82.wav",
        "text": "他們是由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/83.wav",
        "text": "113位立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/84.wav",
        "text": "所組成即"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/85.wav",
        "text": "我們選出來的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/86.wav",
        "text": "所同意任命的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/87.wav",
        "text": "所以考委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/88.wav",
        "text": "監委跟大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/89.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們沒有投票給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/90.wav",
        "text": "但他都代表了你跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/91.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/92.wav",
        "text": "那他有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/93.wav",
        "text": "平等地對待你跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/94.wav",
        "text": "你確定嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/95.wav",
        "text": "考委有沒有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/96.wav",
        "text": "有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/97.wav",
        "text": "監委有沒有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/98.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/99.wav",
        "text": "原住民有幾族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/100.wav",
        "text": "16族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/101.wav",
        "text": "監委有16族的原住民都有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/102.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/103.wav",
        "text": "考委有16族的原住民都有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/104.wav",
        "text": "大法官有沒有原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/105.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/106.wav",
        "text": "雖然由總統提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/107.wav",
        "text": "但經全國民意基礎的立法院同意通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/108.wav",
        "text": "他可以公平地對待不同的族群嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/109.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/110.wav",
        "text": "可以嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/111.wav",
        "text": "所以目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/112.wav",
        "text": "政務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/113.wav",
        "text": "當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/114.wav",
        "text": "大法官有沒有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/115.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/116.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有規定大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/117.wav",
        "text": "一定要有一個原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/118.wav",
        "text": "這樣是否有違我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/119.wav",
        "text": "平等對待各個種族的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/120.wav",
        "text": "憲法保障第7條的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/121.wav",
        "text": "原理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/122.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/123.wav",
        "text": "沒有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/124.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/125.wav",
        "text": "因為不管有沒有保障大法官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/126.wav",
        "text": "是不是具有原住民身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/127.wav",
        "text": "大法官既經全民選出來的總統提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/128.wav",
        "text": "既經全民選出來的國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/129.wav",
        "text": "立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/130.wav",
        "text": "有你的一票有我的一票的委員來同意任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/131.wav",
        "text": "他就要根據憲法第7條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/132.wav",
        "text": "公平地對待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/133.wav",
        "text": "不分種族的每一個國民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/134.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/135.wav",
        "text": "來我們來談正題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/136.wav",
        "text": "這只是很清楚的一個憲法ABC"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/137.wav",
        "text": "\n我們來談一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/138.wav",
        "text": "環境保育與民生利用並行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/139.wav",
        "text": "補償禁伐並鼓勵永續經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/140.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/141.wav",
        "text": "目前全國的原保地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/142.wav",
        "text": "其中林業用地占了六成六是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/143.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/144.wav",
        "text": "只有林保地會被納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/145.wav",
        "text": "禁伐區可以領取禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/146.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/147.wav",
        "text": "這當中屏東縣是不是最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/148.wav",
        "text": "對所以我要問這個題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/149.wav",
        "text": "來我們往下看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/150.wav",
        "text": "目前列為禁伐區的有9種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/151.wav",
        "text": "是不是有這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/152.wav",
        "text": "林業用地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/153.wav",
        "text": "水保用地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/154.wav",
        "text": "水質保護區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/155.wav",
        "text": "國家公園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/156.wav",
        "text": "性質一不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/157.wav",
        "text": "不一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/158.wav",
        "text": "林業用地跟國家公園是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/159.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/160.wav",
        "text": "水質保護區跟我們的水土保護區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/161.wav",
        "text": "又不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/162.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/163.wav",
        "text": "這些區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/164.wav",
        "text": "不管是不是原保地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/165.wav",
        "text": "都有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/166.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/167.wav",
        "text": "不是只有原保地會被列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/168.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/169.wav",
        "text": "好往下看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/170.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/171.wav",
        "text": "目前公告禁伐區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/172.wav",
        "text": "只能維持原貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/173.wav",
        "text": "有沒有其他使用的可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/174.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/175.wav",
        "text": "如果說我保持原貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/176.wav",
        "text": "禁伐公告之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/177.wav",
        "text": "有兩種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/178.wav",
        "text": "一種是做造林或其他用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/179.wav",
        "text": "你們是不是根據判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/180.wav",
        "text": "有沒有濫墾濫伐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/181.wav",
        "text": "伐或根據竹木覆蓋率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/182.wav",
        "text": "有七成以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/183.wav",
        "text": "就算是可以符合資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/184.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/185.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/186.wav",
        "text": "只要符合補償要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/187.wav",
        "text": "就算是有做其他的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/188.wav",
        "text": "符合規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/189.wav",
        "text": "也可以領取補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/190.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/191.wav",
        "text": "所以目前領取禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/192.wav",
        "text": "不是叫你什麼都不能動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/193.wav",
        "text": "只是要你合乎規定來使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/194.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/195.wav",
        "text": "好往下看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/196.wav",
        "text": "申請補償的面積有沒有逐年增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/197.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/198.wav",
        "text": "從2.4萬公頃到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/199.wav",
        "text": "去年7.2萬公頃了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/200.wav",
        "text": "到了2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/201.wav",
        "text": "我們估計有7.7萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/202.wav",
        "text": "請問新核定補償的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/203.wav",
        "text": "通常有沒有做使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/204.wav",
        "text": "有沒有做使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/205.wav",
        "text": "它只是禁伐而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/206.wav",
        "text": "有沒有做其他的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/207.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有去考究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/208.wav",
        "text": "這些新核定補償的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/209.wav",
        "text": "原保地當中的林業用地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/210.wav",
        "text": "有沒有做使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/211.wav",
        "text": "據我所知多數沒有做使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/212.wav",
        "text": "它就是保持原狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/213.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/214.wav",
        "text": "所以你們目前所核發的禁伐補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/215.wav",
        "text": "都是保持原狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/216.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/217.wav",
        "text": "但是法律有沒有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/218.wav",
        "text": "他們底下不可以使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/219.wav",
        "text": "沒有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/220.wav",
        "text": "聲音大一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/221.wav",
        "text": "我們都是姓鍾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/222.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們不同族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/223.wav",
        "text": "我們希望我們詢答應該很順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/224.wav",
        "text": "屬於原保地的林地當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/225.wav",
        "text": "有AB兩種方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/226.wav",
        "text": "一種是農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/227.wav",
        "text": "有沒有你們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/228.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/229.wav",
        "text": "他們的造林獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/230.wav",
        "text": "可不可以補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/231.wav",
        "text": "可不可以使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/232.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/233.wav",
        "text": "可以嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/234.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/235.wav",
        "text": "那你們的禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/236.wav",
        "text": "沒有鼓勵使用嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/237.wav",
        "text": "只有禁砍伐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/238.wav",
        "text": "但是也不禁止他使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/239.wav",
        "text": "他必須合乎規定使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/240.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/241.wav",
        "text": "但現況是大部分都沒有使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/242.wav",
        "text": "我們來想想看有沒有一個C方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/243.wav",
        "text": "就是鼓勵其他的利用方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/244.wav",
        "text": "既不是林保署的造林獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/245.wav",
        "text": "但是又有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/246.wav",
        "text": "除了保留原況以外的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/247.wav",
        "text": "那A跟B"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/248.wav",
        "text": "可以同時申請嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/249.wav",
        "text": "不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/250.wav",
        "text": "不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/251.wav",
        "text": "A或B是互斥的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/252.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/253.wav",
        "text": "如果還有一個C方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/254.wav",
        "text": "他符合我們禁伐補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/255.wav",
        "text": "覆蓋率七成的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/256.wav",
        "text": "但是他做部分的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/257.wav",
        "text": "可不可以同時兼領"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/258.wav",
        "text": "如果有個C方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/259.wav",
        "text": "如果在合法使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/260.wav",
        "text": "合乎規定使用的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/261.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/262.wav",
        "text": "A方案的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/263.wav",
        "text": "個人投入要投入很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/264.wav",
        "text": "他個人有一定的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/265.wav",
        "text": "環境的收益也不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/266.wav",
        "text": "環境就是維持它的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/267.wav",
        "text": "個人不用投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/268.wav",
        "text": "任何的利用跟開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/269.wav",
        "text": "但是個人有一定的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/270.wav",
        "text": "環境也得到一些些保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/271.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/272.wav",
        "text": "但是如果我們加一個C方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/273.wav",
        "text": "我們比照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/274.wav",
        "text": "符合規定的開發運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/275.wav",
        "text": "他個人可以得到收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/276.wav",
        "text": "環境也得到很大的再利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/277.wav",
        "text": "你覺得有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/278.wav",
        "text": "有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/279.wav",
        "text": "因為土地的利用很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/280.wav",
        "text": "這個利用叫什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/281.wav",
        "text": "我給你看答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/282.wav",
        "text": "這種利用叫林下經濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/283.wav",
        "text": "其實林下經濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/284.wav",
        "text": "可以維持現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/285.wav",
        "text": "可是在滿足覆蓋率七成的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/286.wav",
        "text": "他可以又包括林下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/287.wav",
        "text": "做一些開發利用以利民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/288.wav",
        "text": "目前有沒有例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/289.wav",
        "text": "原民會有沒有這樣的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/290.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/291.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你有哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/292.wav",
        "text": "一個叫做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/293.wav",
        "text": "我們養蜜蜂的蜂蜜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/294.wav",
        "text": "還有高山茶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/295.wav",
        "text": "為什麼蜂蜜跟高山茶是互利的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/296.wav",
        "text": "因為有了蜂蜜它會帶來授粉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/297.wav",
        "text": "往下看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/298.wav",
        "text": "一種叫做無螫蜂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/299.wav",
        "text": "聽過無螫蜂嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/300.wav",
        "text": "有沒有聽過無螫蜂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/301.wav",
        "text": "就是沒有尾針刺的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/302.wav",
        "text": "無螫蜂在我們原住民的文化當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/303.wav",
        "text": "非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/304.wav",
        "text": "它有非常多的應用用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/305.wav",
        "text": "包括它的黏著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/306.wav",
        "text": "都跟我們打獵有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/307.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/308.wav",
        "text": "副主委你有沒有下去打過獵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/309.wav",
        "text": "有沒有拉過弓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/310.wav",
        "text": "有拉過弓沒有打過獵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/311.wav",
        "text": "沒有打過獵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/312.wav",
        "text": "我也跟你一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/313.wav",
        "text": "我們都同姓鍾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/314.wav",
        "text": "所以同樣的道理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/315.wav",
        "text": "屋簷下的蜂窩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/316.wav",
        "text": "農園菜圃授粉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/317.wav",
        "text": "現在你們是不是有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/318.wav",
        "text": "111年到114年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/319.wav",
        "text": "原住民族的促進就業方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/320.wav",
        "text": "有有這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/321.wav",
        "text": "是不是還有生態跟環境調查的維護計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/322.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/323.wav",
        "text": "可以在維護自然生態的環境之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/324.wav",
        "text": "同時做一些經濟的開發利用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/325.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/326.wav",
        "text": "有在各鄉鎮大概有10位左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/327.wav",
        "text": "目前做自然保育是有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/328.wav",
        "text": "對環境的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/329.wav",
        "text": "對環境的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/330.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/331.wav",
        "text": "所以我要做一個結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/332.wav",
        "text": "這個結論就是主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/333.wav",
        "text": "請原民會會同行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/334.wav",
        "text": "各其他主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/335.wav",
        "text": "譬如像農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/336.wav",
        "text": "提出一個中長程的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/337.wav",
        "text": "社會發展計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/338.wav",
        "text": "目的就是針對目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/339.wav",
        "text": "有領取禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/340.wav",
        "text": "或是符合領取禁伐補償的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/341.wav",
        "text": "原保地當中的林業用地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/342.wav",
        "text": "我們鼓勵原住民朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/343.wav",
        "text": "投入做符合規定的開發運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/344.wav",
        "text": "你同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/345.wav",
        "text": "好我們努力來研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/346.wav",
        "text": "有嗎有在研擬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/347.wav",
        "text": "回到上面那個圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/348.wav",
        "text": "就是那個ABC方案的圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/349.wav",
        "text": "如果你們可以研議出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/350.wav",
        "text": "這樣的C方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/351.wav",
        "text": "我相信未來我們原住民的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/352.wav",
        "text": "有原保地的朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/353.wav",
        "text": "他在既有的林業用地上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/354.wav",
        "text": "不是單純受到禁伐的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/355.wav",
        "text": "完全不能夠使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/356.wav",
        "text": "政府有限的禁伐補償"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/357.wav",
        "text": "我希望你們也鼓勵他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/358.wav",
        "text": "投入類似林下經濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/359.wav",
        "text": "在合乎禁伐補償的使用範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/360.wav",
        "text": "做必要的合理的經濟開發運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/361.wav",
        "text": "你同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/362.wav",
        "text": "同意因為主委前幾天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/363.wav",
        "text": "也有提到這個部分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/364.wav",
        "text": "你們已經開始著手了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/365.wav",
        "text": "已經有計畫醞釀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/366.wav",
        "text": "就開始去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/367.wav",
        "text": "在執行了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/368.wav",
        "text": "下年度的計畫當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/369.wav",
        "text": "看到你們提出C方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/370.wav",
        "text": "來幫助原來領用B方案的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/371.wav",
        "text": "原住民朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/372.wav",
        "text": "而可以領到更多的獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/373.wav",
        "text": "跟補助好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/374.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/375.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/376.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154353/377.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鍾委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/1.wav",
        "text": "再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/3.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/4.wav",
        "text": "我國經濟從農業社會一直轉型到工業社會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/5.wav",
        "text": "供應鏈為支柱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/6.wav",
        "text": "我們看到產業的轉型與民眾的觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/7.wav",
        "text": "以及少子化的危機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/8.wav",
        "text": "及世代斷層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/9.wav",
        "text": "所以這些都是目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/10.wav",
        "text": "所以在2019年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/11.wav",
        "text": "沒有不是那是農保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/12.wav",
        "text": "嘛從最早的800人到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/13.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長在報告的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/14.wav",
        "text": "也特別講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/15.wav",
        "text": "目前移工的申請到了8,500人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/16.wav",
        "text": "到年底就會到1萬2,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/17.wav",
        "text": "那你知道這個缺口還要有8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/18.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/19.wav",
        "text": "那這8,000人的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/20.wav",
        "text": "你知道要分配到哪裡嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/21.wav",
        "text": "比如說像農糧部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/22.wav",
        "text": "目前是4,000"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/23.wav",
        "text": "人畜牧業的話是4,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/24.wav",
        "text": "還有外展人員是3,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/25.wav",
        "text": "養殖業800人林業的200"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/26.wav",
        "text": "人未來增加的8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/27.wav",
        "text": "你有規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/28.wav",
        "text": "有去做市場調查嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/29.wav",
        "text": "對我們8,000人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/30.wav",
        "text": "就是從市場調查裡面得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/31.wav",
        "text": "目前8,000人會怎麼分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/32.wav",
        "text": "大概還是會在農糧為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/33.wav",
        "text": "然後有一部分是畜牧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/34.wav",
        "text": "還有一個很重要就是外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/35.wav",
        "text": "因為外展我們現在開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/36.wav",
        "text": "可以跨區移動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/37.wav",
        "text": "可能會靠外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/38.wav",
        "text": "所以部長都瞭解問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/39.wav",
        "text": "最重要是怎麼支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/40.wav",
        "text": "因為很多是季節性採收期的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/41.wav",
        "text": "農忙需要的臨時工嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/42.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/43.wav",
        "text": "一般的收割期大概是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/44.wav",
        "text": "南部一直到北部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/45.wav",
        "text": "所以可以跨區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/46.wav",
        "text": "支援做人力的調配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/47.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/48.wav",
        "text": "但是你有沒有發現一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/49.wav",
        "text": "人力到這邊來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/50.wav",
        "text": "整個吃住的管理問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/51.wav",
        "text": "用農會的外展農務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/52.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/53.wav",
        "text": "所以農會的申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/54.wav",
        "text": "你知道實際上務實在申請的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/55.wav",
        "text": "都是調配在哪裡使用嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/56.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/57.wav",
        "text": "外展的部分都在當區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/58.wav",
        "text": "因為牽涉到交通跟住宿的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/59.wav",
        "text": "我們現在開始有試辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/60.wav",
        "text": "我們會去看試辦裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/61.wav",
        "text": "他們真正需要協助的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/62.wav",
        "text": "特別是包括交通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/63.wav",
        "text": "還有一部分的住宿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/64.wav",
        "text": "我舉個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/65.wav",
        "text": "像果樹"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/66.wav",
        "text": "部長你還是沒有去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/67.wav",
        "text": "你有問到每一個農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/68.wav",
        "text": "他們在申請的人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/69.wav",
        "text": "比如說大的農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/70.wav",
        "text": "或者臺北好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/71.wav",
        "text": "大的農會人員很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/72.wav",
        "text": "現在配比是50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/73.wav",
        "text": "1比1對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/74.wav",
        "text": "大農會人員當然多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/75.wav",
        "text": "它申請的人多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/76.wav",
        "text": "但是實際上下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/77.wav",
        "text": "農耕的人卻不需要那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/78.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣的農會實際在做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/79.wav",
        "text": "業務就是存放款比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/80.wav",
        "text": "它雖然是小農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/81.wav",
        "text": "員額大概是20人十幾個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/82.wav",
        "text": "但是它的農地非常地大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/83.wav",
        "text": "所以在這邊要提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/84.wav",
        "text": "就需要依照農地的大小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/85.wav",
        "text": "而不是以農會的員額多少來申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/86.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話就不夠務實了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/87.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/88.wav",
        "text": "第一個層次是核配比的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/89.wav",
        "text": "我們現在全國是一致性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/90.wav",
        "text": "剛才委員所提用農地的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/91.wav",
        "text": "意思是小農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/92.wav",
        "text": "現在還有合作社也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/93.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會針對那一區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/94.wav",
        "text": "如果農會人力不夠的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/95.wav",
        "text": "我們會協助他用合作社的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/96.wav",
        "text": "還可以去申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/97.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會儘量朝這個來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/98.wav",
        "text": "部長你剛剛有提到一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/99.wav",
        "text": "要管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/100.wav",
        "text": "沒辦法成立一個住宿的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/101.wav",
        "text": "管理他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/102.wav",
        "text": "所以人員還是會調配到外面去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/103.wav",
        "text": "所以在這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/104.wav",
        "text": "我們要看農地的大小才是務實的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/105.wav",
        "text": "小農地的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/106.wav",
        "text": "他們倆夫妻的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/107.wav",
        "text": "需要大量的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/108.wav",
        "text": "就必須要有臨時工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/109.wav",
        "text": "這就必須要調配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/110.wav",
        "text": "所以有的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/111.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有像部長您所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/112.wav",
        "text": "1,500人的農務人力團它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/113.wav",
        "text": "它需要的人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/114.wav",
        "text": "就必須要在當地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/115.wav",
        "text": "就有青農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/116.wav",
        "text": "他可以來協助幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/117.wav",
        "text": "\n但是部長你有沒有瞭解到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/118.wav",
        "text": "農忙的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/119.wav",
        "text": "大家都忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/120.wav",
        "text": "都在搶人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/121.wav",
        "text": "比較多是水稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/122.wav",
        "text": "忙的時候都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/123.wav",
        "text": "有機蔬菜是每天在忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/124.wav",
        "text": "可是茶葉是一次性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/125.wav",
        "text": "水稻是一年兩次性三次性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/126.wav",
        "text": "就是農民休閒的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/127.wav",
        "text": "會有空檔在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/128.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/129.wav",
        "text": "他們要怎麼去管理外展人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/130.wav",
        "text": "所以我們才會提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/131.wav",
        "text": "外展可以跨區來支援"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/132.wav",
        "text": "很多像蔬菜類的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/133.wav",
        "text": "我們會加強它的農事服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/134.wav",
        "text": "的代耕系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/135.wav",
        "text": "這樣人力就可以往別的地方走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/136.wav",
        "text": "我請部長你再務實去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/137.wav",
        "text": "跨區的支援還是不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/138.wav",
        "text": "當地的在地的支援會比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/139.wav",
        "text": "對當地的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/140.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會更鼓勵合作社的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/141.wav",
        "text": "因為你成立合作社"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/142.wav",
        "text": "還是可以去申請這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/143.wav",
        "text": "以農地為計算標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/144.wav",
        "text": "我們會來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/145.wav",
        "text": "你們研議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/146.wav",
        "text": "我們也會跟勞動部來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/147.wav",
        "text": "比如說它的行員多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/148.wav",
        "text": "但是很多都沒有申請足額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/149.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/150.wav",
        "text": "因為它沒有需要這麼多的耕作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/151.wav",
        "text": "這些農會實際的業務可能不是農耕而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/152.wav",
        "text": "是在銀行作業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/153.wav",
        "text": "對於核配比有一致性的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/154.wav",
        "text": "這個已經超脫它的一致性原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/155.wav",
        "text": "用本國跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/156.wav",
        "text": "所以務實去瞭解實際的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/157.wav",
        "text": "我們再研議再跟勞動部來溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/158.wav",
        "text": "還有因為我們的農耕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/159.wav",
        "text": "是比較曝曬在戶外要曬太陽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/160.wav",
        "text": "而且也比較辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/161.wav",
        "text": "所以移工失聯的也比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/162.wav",
        "text": "部長有沒有發現這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/163.wav",
        "text": "大概是12.14"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/164.wav",
        "text": "所以要怎麼防範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/165.wav",
        "text": "我想要先去考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/166.wav",
        "text": "會逃逸的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/167.wav",
        "text": "可能就是因為本身的適應性不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/168.wav",
        "text": "而且農業的這些特殊性部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/169.wav",
        "text": "農業跟其他的工業不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/170.wav",
        "text": "對然後因為移工有互相聯絡的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/171.wav",
        "text": "他都會跑往比較輕鬆的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/172.wav",
        "text": "工作在COVID-19的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/173.wav",
        "text": "現在已經比較回穩了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/174.wav",
        "text": "沒有現在全臺灣的失聯移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/175.wav",
        "text": "逃逸移工大概有7萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/176.wav",
        "text": "所以要再提醒部長的是耕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/177.wav",
        "text": "他們有可能就會用這些失聯移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/178.wav",
        "text": "這些都是管理的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/179.wav",
        "text": "所以部長要深入去研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/180.wav",
        "text": "是這個我們瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/181.wav",
        "text": "我們會想辦法去解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/182.wav",
        "text": "接下來我想請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/183.wav",
        "text": "因為台電有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/184.wav",
        "text": "未來對於農漁業的電費不補助了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/185.wav",
        "text": "那你們這邊有沒有要補助這個部分的電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/186.wav",
        "text": "我們已經納入農業部的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/187.wav",
        "text": "大概是19億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/188.wav",
        "text": "農漁業的電費補助大概是多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/189.wav",
        "text": "19億18.9億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/190.wav",
        "text": "它也是18.9億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/191.wav",
        "text": "也是要錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/192.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/193.wav",
        "text": "總共42億嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/194.wav",
        "text": "教育19億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/195.wav",
        "text": "農漁也占了19億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/196.wav",
        "text": "對我記得是18.9億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/197.wav",
        "text": "好那你會補足嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/198.wav",
        "text": "一定要補足啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/199.wav",
        "text": "不會調漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/200.wav",
        "text": "編列預算去補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/201.wav",
        "text": "所以你會編預算全額補足進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/202.wav",
        "text": "對全額補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/203.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/204.wav",
        "text": "不是全額免費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/205.wav",
        "text": "你要補助這部分啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/206.wav",
        "text": "就是19億的部分把它補進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/207.wav",
        "text": "不會跟農民收取啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/208.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/209.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/210.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154354/211.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來我們請陳超明委員詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/0.wav",
        "text": "主席我們請原民會鍾副主委跟人事行政總處曾永芳專委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/1.wav",
        "text": "許委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/2.wav",
        "text": "有副處長要找副處長嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/3.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/4.wav",
        "text": "那麻煩副處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/5.wav",
        "text": "兩位好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/6.wav",
        "text": "我先請教一下副處長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/7.wav",
        "text": "就根據行政院組織法第5條第2項規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/8.wav",
        "text": "政務委員得兼任下設委員會之主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/9.wav",
        "text": "而第4條規定行政院設立的委員會有包含原住民委員會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/10.wav",
        "text": "因此原住民委員會的主任委員應該是可以兼任行政院的政務委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/11.wav",
        "text": "也沒有違反行政院組織法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/12.wav",
        "text": "那執政黨的原住民立委曾經主張原民會的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/13.wav",
        "text": "橫跨了各部會應該讓主任委員兼任政務委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/14.wav",
        "text": "為何你們一直都沒有讓原民會的主委兼任政務委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/15.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/16.wav",
        "text": "因為依照中央行政機關組織基準法的第十八條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/17.wav",
        "text": "第三項有提到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/18.wav",
        "text": "機關首長除了法律有特別的規定之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/19.wav",
        "text": "原則上是用專任的方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/20.wav",
        "text": "但因為它本身就是委員會性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/21.wav",
        "text": "是負責整合協調各部會的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/22.wav",
        "text": "所以我們還是維持讓他用委員會而且專任的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/23.wav",
        "text": "那國發會跟國家科學及技術委員會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/24.wav",
        "text": "有沒有兼任政務委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/25.wav",
        "text": "當時的考量是因為國發會跟國科會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/26.wav",
        "text": "科研計畫的審議方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/27.wav",
        "text": "有比較多資源分配的權限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/28.wav",
        "text": "國發會組織法在立法院審議的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/29.wav",
        "text": "是由委員建議把它改為由政務委員來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/30.wav",
        "text": "也是可以是這樣的意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/31.wav",
        "text": "其實已經有相關跨部會協調的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/32.wav",
        "text": "事實上它沒有真正跨部會協調功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/33.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼提到這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/34.wav",
        "text": "當然也是今天條文要修正的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/35.wav",
        "text": "主要是因為賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/36.wav",
        "text": "的主張是要正名平埔族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/37.wav",
        "text": "新任的主委也特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/38.wav",
        "text": "涉及的議題非常龐大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/39.wav",
        "text": "而且所需要的預算可能也會超過幾百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/40.wav",
        "text": "可能影響的族群也會超過一百萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/41.wav",
        "text": "這樣子是不是也需要跨部會去整合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/42.wav",
        "text": "臺灣可能有600萬人是平埔族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/43.wav",
        "text": "然後還有很多的土地要面臨重新管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/44.wav",
        "text": "如果平埔族都比照原住民55歲退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/45.wav",
        "text": "勞保基金的缺口也會變大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/46.wav",
        "text": "所以整個國土規劃都要重來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/47.wav",
        "text": "而且需要涉及重大計畫的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/48.wav",
        "text": "這個部分跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/49.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們行政院已經有成立一個叫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/50.wav",
        "text": "原住民族基本法推動會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/51.wav",
        "text": "是由行政院的院長來擔任召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/52.wav",
        "text": "所以關於剛剛委員提到這個重大的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/53.wav",
        "text": "事實上可以提到這個委員會來做相關討論跟審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/54.wav",
        "text": "我想這可能跟原住民委員會的主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/55.wav",
        "text": "能不能兼任政務委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/56.wav",
        "text": "啦我想今天的修法也是聽聽大家共同的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/57.wav",
        "text": "光這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/58.wav",
        "text": "\n另外再請教鍾副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/59.wav",
        "text": "原民會有一個標案是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/60.wav",
        "text": "113年度補助原住民族長者裝置假牙業務的宣導文宣費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/61.wav",
        "text": "預算的經費是199萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/62.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有這個宣導品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/63.wav",
        "text": "因為112年度原住民長者裝設假牙的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/64.wav",
        "text": "總共1,936案補助金額是3,663萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/65.wav",
        "text": "原民會認為從數據上來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/66.wav",
        "text": "原住民長者申請的補助人數太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/67.wav",
        "text": "所以要做宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/68.wav",
        "text": "請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/69.wav",
        "text": "副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/70.wav",
        "text": "原住民長者的牙齒都不好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/71.wav",
        "text": "要不然為什麼會認為這樣算是少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/72.wav",
        "text": "而且是因為宣傳不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/73.wav",
        "text": "其實很多老人家的牙齒的確到一定的年齡大概都會鬆動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/74.wav",
        "text": "而且吃食物進食會比較困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/75.wav",
        "text": "對但那是根據什麼樣子的理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/76.wav",
        "text": "你認為這個是因為宣傳不夠呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/77.wav",
        "text": "我們看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/78.wav",
        "text": "現在你們編列的宣導品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/79.wav",
        "text": "有USB電風扇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/80.wav",
        "text": "USB LED電燈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/81.wav",
        "text": "請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/82.wav",
        "text": "以貼紙的話可以張貼在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/83.wav",
        "text": "66處的原住民族的家庭服務中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/84.wav",
        "text": "22縣市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/85.wav",
        "text": "510處的文化健康站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/86.wav",
        "text": "及全國的村里長辦公室牙醫診所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/87.wav",
        "text": "需要裝假牙的人會去找牙醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/88.wav",
        "text": "需要申請補助的會去找里長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/89.wav",
        "text": "家人也會上網查資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/90.wav",
        "text": "為什麼需要花199萬去製作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/91.wav",
        "text": "USB風扇跟USB LED燈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/92.wav",
        "text": "進行宣導呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/93.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/94.wav",
        "text": "這個可能也是鼓勵的用意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/95.wav",
        "text": "因為這不是我督導的業務所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/96.wav",
        "text": "不是那麼清楚它的細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/97.wav",
        "text": "會後提供資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/98.wav",
        "text": "對因為這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/99.wav",
        "text": "本席也沒有反對送宣導品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/100.wav",
        "text": "目的是針對長者的假牙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/101.wav",
        "text": "所以你們應該是要送長者會用到的東西吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/102.wav",
        "text": "請問有幾個長者會用USB去充電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/103.wav",
        "text": "沒有考慮到實用性是浪費公帑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/104.wav",
        "text": "他花了145萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/105.wav",
        "text": "我已經覺得是非常的浪費公帑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/106.wav",
        "text": "浪費我們納稅人的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/107.wav",
        "text": "在院會也一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/108.wav",
        "text": "原民會的預算很吃緊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/109.wav",
        "text": "但是以這個標案來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/110.wav",
        "text": "其實也是非常嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/111.wav",
        "text": "在浪費人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/112.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/113.wav",
        "text": "請副主任回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/114.wav",
        "text": "委員這個部分我們再瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/115.wav",
        "text": "很少用USB"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/116.wav",
        "text": "都是年輕人比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/117.wav",
        "text": "對啊所以說你花了199萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/118.wav",
        "text": "去做老人家根本不會用到的宣導品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/119.wav",
        "text": "就是浪費公帑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/120.wav",
        "text": "人的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/121.wav",
        "text": "可能也是給老人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/122.wav",
        "text": "或者是讓家裡能夠一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/123.wav",
        "text": "199萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/124.wav",
        "text": "既然原民會的預算是很吃緊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/125.wav",
        "text": "我覺得每一分錢都該花在刀口上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/126.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154355/127.wav",
        "text": "好也謝謝委員的提醒謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/0.wav",
        "text": "我們請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/1.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/2.wav",
        "text": "部長好部長我跟你請教你是幾年次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/3.wav",
        "text": "47年次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/4.wav",
        "text": "還有院會的總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/5.wav",
        "text": "我一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/6.wav",
        "text": "苗栗縣一定要成立低丘緩坡示範區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/7.wav",
        "text": "苗栗縣的土地裡面有86%是山坡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/8.wav",
        "text": "1甲地大概是1,500萬到2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/9.wav",
        "text": "大概買不到10坪到20坪的房子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/10.wav",
        "text": "你看這個比例差了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/11.wav",
        "text": "這真的對農民很不公平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/12.wav",
        "text": "農民又分成兩種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/13.wav",
        "text": "都市計畫外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/14.wav",
        "text": "一些農地的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/15.wav",
        "text": "他們的命運都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/16.wav",
        "text": "為什麼一樣的農地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/17.wav",
        "text": "都市計畫內的農地可以市地重劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/18.wav",
        "text": "就不用承擔糧食安全各方面的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/19.wav",
        "text": "為什麼都市計畫外的農地要受到種種限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/20.wav",
        "text": "尤其苗栗縣的山坡地占了86%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/21.wav",
        "text": "你們知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/22.wav",
        "text": "你們的農發條例一來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/23.wav",
        "text": "只有說山坡地要保持安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/24.wav",
        "text": "我跟部長說現在的百姓太聰明了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/25.wav",
        "text": "不能發生問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/26.wav",
        "text": "只為了一昧的假清高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/27.wav",
        "text": "把農民的財產都降下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/28.wav",
        "text": "以前1甲地可以賣到300多兩千多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/29.wav",
        "text": "現在剩下1005還沒有人要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/30.wav",
        "text": "這是天到地的差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/31.wav",
        "text": "所以在這裡我要再三跟你強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/32.wav",
        "text": "我希望你跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/33.wav",
        "text": "還有水保署跟我下去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/34.wav",
        "text": "你看到時就會覺得退休的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/35.wav",
        "text": "鳥語花香人間仙境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/36.wav",
        "text": "其實裡面你有開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/37.wav",
        "text": "包括農地的耕作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/38.wav",
        "text": "你甚至可以組織農耕隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/39.wav",
        "text": "你們要大膽的改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/40.wav",
        "text": "你的AI內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/41.wav",
        "text": "大家不敢種也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/42.wav",
        "text": "沒人敢去買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/43.wav",
        "text": "大家都很天真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/44.wav",
        "text": "沒有依照地形地物的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/45.wav",
        "text": "沒有人敢反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/46.wav",
        "text": "我現在跟你要求一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/47.wav",
        "text": "我比你年紀還大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/48.wav",
        "text": "但是我永遠是行動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/49.wav",
        "text": "我永遠敢於創新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/50.wav",
        "text": "我帶你來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/51.wav",
        "text": "完我們山坡地要如何開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/52.wav",
        "text": "我要把苗栗縣的山坡地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/53.wav",
        "text": "打造像日本輕井澤一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/54.wav",
        "text": "也可以減低了很多都市人口的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/55.wav",
        "text": "可以在苗栗縣來康養非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/56.wav",
        "text": "觀念要改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/57.wav",
        "text": "因為苗栗縣有獨特的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/58.wav",
        "text": "到臺北市高鐵40分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/59.wav",
        "text": "臺中18分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/60.wav",
        "text": "到高雄大概七十幾分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/61.wav",
        "text": "到苗栗縣每一個鄉鎮30分鐘就會到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/62.wav",
        "text": "非常輕鬆是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/63.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們做事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/64.wav",
        "text": "一定要大膽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/65.wav",
        "text": "滿山滿野以前種的水果都沒有人在摘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/66.wav",
        "text": "年輕人也不想做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/67.wav",
        "text": "我們也要改變一下方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/68.wav",
        "text": "換你來支持我這個計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/69.wav",
        "text": "我帶你去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/70.wav",
        "text": "我們把問題提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/71.wav",
        "text": "真的是好地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/72.wav",
        "text": "被你們農發條例限制變成垃圾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/73.wav",
        "text": "我一定要活化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/74.wav",
        "text": "不用怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/75.wav",
        "text": "你給我們一個試驗地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/76.wav",
        "text": "由縣政府來指導法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/77.wav",
        "text": "跟你們討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/78.wav",
        "text": "通過以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/79.wav",
        "text": "做一次給人家看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/80.wav",
        "text": "這樣臺灣才會進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/81.wav",
        "text": "而不是永遠保守在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/82.wav",
        "text": "什麼都不能破壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/83.wav",
        "text": "我常常講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/84.wav",
        "text": "都市人禮拜一到禮拜五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/85.wav",
        "text": "你們在這邊燈紅酒綠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/86.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五晚上到我們鄉下地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/87.wav",
        "text": "禮拜六禮拜天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/88.wav",
        "text": "我們的青山綠水好山好水都可以讓你享受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/89.wav",
        "text": "你們有幫忙我們什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/90.wav",
        "text": "為什麼都市裡面的農地可以重劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/91.wav",
        "text": "變為住宅區變為商業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/92.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們山坡地要特別受到你們規限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/93.wav",
        "text": "現在缺工幾乎沒有人在種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/94.wav",
        "text": "我那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/95.wav",
        "text": "誰要去爬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/96.wav",
        "text": "\n大家不要食古不化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/97.wav",
        "text": "以為自己都清流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/98.wav",
        "text": "我這個叫做務實派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/99.wav",
        "text": "要不要答應支持我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/100.wav",
        "text": "我們兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/101.wav",
        "text": "還有水保局跟我去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/102.wav",
        "text": "三個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/103.wav",
        "text": "半天給你看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/104.wav",
        "text": "民間的力量有多麼偉大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/105.wav",
        "text": "能實現大家人生要來修養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/106.wav",
        "text": "安養的一個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/107.wav",
        "text": "我講的你聽懂了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/108.wav",
        "text": "委員我很仔細的聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/109.wav",
        "text": "我記得委員在上次的總質詢也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/110.wav",
        "text": "我一定會安排我的同仁好好的去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/111.wav",
        "text": "不要太多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/112.wav",
        "text": "我們去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/113.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道委員的那個想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/114.wav",
        "text": "然後我們看看怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/115.wav",
        "text": "用一個方式去協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/116.wav",
        "text": "因為苗栗地區的坡地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/117.wav",
        "text": "大概有六萬多公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/118.wav",
        "text": "啦怎麼樣去做一個比較好的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/119.wav",
        "text": "咧稻子要種給大家吃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/120.wav",
        "text": "不會開發也不會進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/121.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/122.wav",
        "text": "我們不能用因為農地的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/123.wav",
        "text": "不是只有錢而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/124.wav",
        "text": "你如果跟都會區土地的價值在比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/125.wav",
        "text": "就是去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/126.wav",
        "text": "弱化了農業的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/127.wav",
        "text": "不是弱化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/128.wav",
        "text": "我還會再給你強化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/129.wav",
        "text": "我的觀念提出來你一定會認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/130.wav",
        "text": "死怕人去修理你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/131.wav",
        "text": "們沒做過你怎麼知道好壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/132.wav",
        "text": "今天講到農業移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/133.wav",
        "text": "現在的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/134.wav",
        "text": "失聯移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/135.wav",
        "text": "是占了一大部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/136.wav",
        "text": "啦在農忙的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/137.wav",
        "text": "看你部長夠不夠力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/138.wav",
        "text": "你外來的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/139.wav",
        "text": "調度的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/140.wav",
        "text": "每一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/141.wav",
        "text": "都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/142.wav",
        "text": "這些農民要叫臺灣人來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/143.wav",
        "text": "沒什麼人要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/144.wav",
        "text": "要去拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/145.wav",
        "text": "拜託到很沒面子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/146.wav",
        "text": "那些主力才是主力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/147.wav",
        "text": "我先偷偷的跟你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/148.wav",
        "text": "其實有時候不要感謝他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/149.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/150.wav",
        "text": "那段時間大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/151.wav",
        "text": "寧願錢高一點給他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/152.wav",
        "text": "他們要出來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/153.wav",
        "text": "永遠你要記得一個觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/154.wav",
        "text": "他就是要賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/155.wav",
        "text": "那一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/156.wav",
        "text": "有給他賺錢他就會努力做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/157.wav",
        "text": "就給你完成了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/158.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講我碰很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/159.wav",
        "text": "我在地方跑都會被問到這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/160.wav",
        "text": "關於移工要進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/161.wav",
        "text": "農業系統有放款的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/162.wav",
        "text": "當然也有輔導的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/163.wav",
        "text": "比較官僚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/164.wav",
        "text": "我說這句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/165.wav",
        "text": "我相信你不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/166.wav",
        "text": "我是把實情告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/167.wav",
        "text": "因為我要替你解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/168.wav",
        "text": "我碰到了幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/169.wav",
        "text": "農會的青年人不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/170.wav",
        "text": "像我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/171.wav",
        "text": "們苑裡農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/172.wav",
        "text": "像我們的西湖農會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/173.wav",
        "text": "那些青農不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/174.wav",
        "text": "其實你真的要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/175.wav",
        "text": "那些青農都很熱心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/176.wav",
        "text": "而且是地方有實力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/177.wav",
        "text": "他認識的人很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/178.wav",
        "text": "好好把持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/179.wav",
        "text": "這個是重要的樁腳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/180.wav",
        "text": "所以他們為了要服務將來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/181.wav",
        "text": "他們要在地方發展的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/182.wav",
        "text": "只要農民來拜託他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/183.wav",
        "text": "解決問題快速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/184.wav",
        "text": "好好的運用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/185.wav",
        "text": "我看過我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/186.wav",
        "text": "苑裡的青農真的很團結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/187.wav",
        "text": "也真的在做事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/188.wav",
        "text": "西湖的也不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/189.wav",
        "text": "每一個地方的青農培養出來不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/190.wav",
        "text": "這樣的青農他有農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/191.wav",
        "text": "各方面的人在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/192.wav",
        "text": "他們反應的速度很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/193.wav",
        "text": "調整人力好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/194.wav",
        "text": "好整合給他們去運用一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/195.wav",
        "text": "可能會非常快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/196.wav",
        "text": "\n當然未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/197.wav",
        "text": "農會會碰到更大的麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/198.wav",
        "text": "現在因應好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/199.wav",
        "text": "外來勢必是我們以後農業的主力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/200.wav",
        "text": "現在沒人要做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154356/201.wav",
        "text": "只維護他的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/0.wav",
        "text": "副主委早安我現在主要是要跟你談一下原住民就業的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/1.wav",
        "text": "就業方面依據原民會在112年的一份報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/2.wav",
        "text": "我們發現45.82%的原住民都是從事勞力密集的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/3.wav",
        "text": "而且他的收入其實是偏低的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/4.wav",
        "text": "現在我們來看每人每月平均薪資大概是3萬4,244塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/5.wav",
        "text": "跟其他的國人相比其實是少了9,037塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/6.wav",
        "text": "所以我們從這個數據上面來看我覺得原住民的工作權本來就有保障的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/7.wav",
        "text": "我想請問一下副主委你有沒有掌握近期原住民整體的失業數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/8.wav",
        "text": "關於失業的數據我們請我們的科長來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/9.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告目前失業率跟全體民眾大概相差不到0.05%左右的差距"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/10.wav",
        "text": "確實就是如圖所示112年的就況調查的失業率原住民是3.53%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/11.wav",
        "text": "全體民眾是3.48%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/12.wav",
        "text": "112年這個數據比應該這麼說失業率一年只少了0.29%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/13.wav",
        "text": "就從111跟112這樣來比的話一年只少0.29%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/14.wav",
        "text": "這個進步的速度是不是不太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/15.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明因為失業率的下降其實從早期98年的8%左右已經有逐年下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/16.wav",
        "text": "近年其實都維持到不到1%是有透過我們的強化促進原住民就業方案跟各部會的合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/17.wav",
        "text": "來去促進原住民的就業權益以上說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/18.wav",
        "text": "那你們有沒有去分析一下他們找不到工作的原因大概是哪些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/19.wav",
        "text": "有些是生活圈沒有工作機會或是就業的資訊不夠掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/20.wav",
        "text": "我有看了一份112年原住民就業狀況調查年度報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/21.wav",
        "text": "111年的勞動力參與率跟失業率是62.75%跟3.82%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/22.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我們從這個資料上面來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/23.wav",
        "text": "有65.31%的人在工作中沒有遇到工作機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/24.wav",
        "text": "當然這裡面有很多種不同細項的分別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/25.wav",
        "text": "其中有30.42%是找不到他要做的職業類別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/26.wav",
        "text": "像這個你們有沒有去稍微瞭解一下狀況是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/27.wav",
        "text": "是不是專業度不夠或是什麼有沒有去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/28.wav",
        "text": "我們有透過職業訓練當然也會有分原鄉跟都會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/29.wav",
        "text": "不同地區確實有不同的工作機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/30.wav",
        "text": "以原鄉而言本來產業發展就比較有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/31.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會推動一些在地的觀光政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/32.wav",
        "text": "這個部分也會加強推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/33.wav",
        "text": "那照剛剛說的如果有六成的失業者在找工作的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/34.wav",
        "text": "他完全沒有遇到可以或適合的工作機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/35.wav",
        "text": "副主委這個部分就問副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/36.wav",
        "text": "甚至連面試的機會也不給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/37.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有研究過這方面的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/38.wav",
        "text": "我們目前還有工作技能的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/39.wav",
        "text": "可能也有這個部分的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/40.wav",
        "text": "不過我們現在普遍都有針對就業的宣傳跟協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/41.wav",
        "text": "我們有就業輔導員在各鄉鎮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/42.wav",
        "text": "所以以這個數據來講好像也偏高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/43.wav",
        "text": "我們也想去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/44.wav",
        "text": "我想我們還是要去分析他們找不到工作的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/45.wav",
        "text": "至於會不會有一些公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/46.wav",
        "text": "對原住民本來就有歧視而拒絕去面試他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/47.wav",
        "text": "這也要麻煩你們瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/48.wav",
        "text": "如果我們發現沒有工作的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/49.wav",
        "text": "主要是因為技能或什麼不足的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/50.wav",
        "text": "我想這個國家就有辦法去介入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/51.wav",
        "text": "介入一下提供他們一些學習的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/52.wav",
        "text": "嘛不能讓他們總是從事高密集的勞力工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/53.wav",
        "text": "因為那種工作經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/54.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法反映在他下一份工作上面的優勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/55.wav",
        "text": "對不對我想應該是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/56.wav",
        "text": "是也謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/57.wav",
        "text": "有關這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/58.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是也跟勞政單位去瞭解一下這個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/59.wav",
        "text": "好就麻煩你了要知道問題才能夠解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/60.wav",
        "text": "這部分再麻煩你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/61.wav",
        "text": "當然我知道政府有做很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/62.wav",
        "text": "就像企業要標政府標案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/63.wav",
        "text": "他會要求企業要有一定的原住民比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/64.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有的話要繳納代金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/65.wav",
        "text": "這個政府都有在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/66.wav",
        "text": "這已經是行之多年的制度沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/67.wav",
        "text": "好我想請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/68.wav",
        "text": "現在企業繳納代金的狀況普不普遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/69.wav",
        "text": "大概平均每年有500到600家左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/70.wav",
        "text": "比例呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/71.wav",
        "text": "平均大概有兩萬多個標案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/72.wav",
        "text": "還是維持大概2億到3億左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/73.wav",
        "text": "沒有我認為這可能要看一下比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/74.wav",
        "text": "這應該是看比例不是看金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/75.wav",
        "text": "依照工作權保障法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/76.wav",
        "text": "確實100人以上的廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/77.wav",
        "text": "要進用1名原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/78.wav",
        "text": "但是我剛剛有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/79.wav",
        "text": "大概平均的企業是500到600家左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/80.wav",
        "text": "啦我看到釋字第719"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/81.wav",
        "text": "是屬於國家保障原住民發展的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/82.wav",
        "text": "但是他能夠提供的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/83.wav",
        "text": "都屬於短期或不具技術性的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/84.wav",
        "text": "難以增進原住民長期穩定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/85.wav",
        "text": "工作機會跟專業技能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/86.wav",
        "text": "在釋字理由書裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/87.wav",
        "text": "都已經提到這一段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/88.wav",
        "text": "所以要麻煩你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/89.wav",
        "text": "除了注意原住民的失業率之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/90.wav",
        "text": "也要注意一下原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/91.wav",
        "text": "他們所從事的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/92.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法讓他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/93.wav",
        "text": "能夠累積一些專業技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/94.wav",
        "text": "而不單純只是勞力的付出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/95.wav",
        "text": "這一塊要麻煩你們注意一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/96.wav",
        "text": "我們在人才的培力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/97.wav",
        "text": "上也會加強這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/98.wav",
        "text": "我們立法院法制局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/99.wav",
        "text": "也有提到一個報告就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/100.wav",
        "text": "政府提供了很多臨時工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/101.wav",
        "text": "雖然可以解決原住民的生計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/102.wav",
        "text": "燃眉之急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/103.wav",
        "text": "但是這不是一個長久的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/104.wav",
        "text": "因為這反而會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/105.wav",
        "text": "隱蔽了原住民的失業率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/106.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法真實反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/107.wav",
        "text": "映原住民面臨的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/108.wav",
        "text": "這一塊也麻煩你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/109.wav",
        "text": "在分析的時候要去區分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/110.wav",
        "text": "它是一個臨時性的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/111.wav",
        "text": "還是一個真正可能讓原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/112.wav",
        "text": "這個部分要麻煩你們瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/113.wav",
        "text": "\n最後我想提一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/114.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民他們在就業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/115.wav",
        "text": "上其實有一個特殊的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/116.wav",
        "text": "就是早進晚出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/117.wav",
        "text": "對不對就業反而是很密集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/118.wav",
        "text": "的在15到24歲之間或55歲以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/119.wav",
        "text": "所以你們要去瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/120.wav",
        "text": "15到24歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/121.wav",
        "text": "他們在進行職涯規劃的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/122.wav",
        "text": "到底需要的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/123.wav",
        "text": "因為這個也都是你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/124.wav",
        "text": "出具的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/125.wav",
        "text": "就是很多原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/126.wav",
        "text": "很年輕就開始工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/127.wav",
        "text": "所以15到24歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/128.wav",
        "text": "也有可能是家庭或經濟因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/129.wav",
        "text": "或是55歲以上的人也很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/130.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/131.wav",
        "text": "我們是不是應該要去找出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/132.wav",
        "text": "15到24歲這一段的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/133.wav",
        "text": "他們需要什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/134.wav",
        "text": "然後我們提供他們一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/135.wav",
        "text": "職涯的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/136.wav",
        "text": "或者是協助他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/137.wav",
        "text": "考一些相關的證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/138.wav",
        "text": "的一個感想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/139.wav",
        "text": "原民會是不是有其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/140.wav",
        "text": "改善原住民就業狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/141.wav",
        "text": "或是提高競爭力的配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/142.wav",
        "text": "你們應該有這些配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/143.wav",
        "text": "讓我拜讀一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/144.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/145.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/146.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/147.wav",
        "text": "麻煩兩個月內提供給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/148.wav",
        "text": "剛剛委員所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/149.wav",
        "text": "包括15到24歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/150.wav",
        "text": "甚至55歲以上的勞參率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/151.wav",
        "text": "我們會瞭解一下他的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/152.wav",
        "text": "希望可以配合並符合他們的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/153.wav",
        "text": "甚至在培力的部分也會來協助他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/154.wav",
        "text": "112年原住民族就業狀況調查年度報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/155.wav",
        "text": "這是你們報告裡面提出來的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/156.wav",
        "text": "可能要請你們分析一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/157.wav",
        "text": "這個數據的狀況是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154357/158.wav",
        "text": "好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/0.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/1.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/2.wav",
        "text": "部長臺灣現在是正常國家嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/3.wav",
        "text": "很特別啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/4.wav",
        "text": "很特別嘛我們在國際的地位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/5.wav",
        "text": "是很特別的正常國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/6.wav",
        "text": "當然你要看怎麼定義正常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/7.wav",
        "text": "比如說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/8.wav",
        "text": "很特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/9.wav",
        "text": "一個國家的幾個構成要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/10.wav",
        "text": "我想就不用再贅述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/11.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/12.wav",
        "text": "嘛今天我看到我們的議程是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/13.wav",
        "text": "請部長來報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/14.wav",
        "text": "如何用國際友我組織去加入聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/15.wav",
        "text": "不管是在當選前後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/16.wav",
        "text": "我們有聽到一些不同的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/17.wav",
        "text": "當然加入聯合國是一個重要的里程碑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/18.wav",
        "text": "短期間就算有歐美的全力協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/19.wav",
        "text": "也不見得能夠達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/20.wav",
        "text": "所以我今天想問我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/21.wav",
        "text": "把這個議程用另外一個方式來想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/22.wav",
        "text": "如何運用國際友我組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/23.wav",
        "text": "達成加入聯合國的同等目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/24.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/25.wav",
        "text": "部長針對這句話有怎麼樣的看法請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/26.wav",
        "text": "請委員再講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/27.wav",
        "text": "利用友我組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/28.wav",
        "text": "達成加入聯合國相關組織的具體做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/29.wav",
        "text": "是你們的命題但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/30.wav",
        "text": "但我說有沒有辦法運用友我組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/31.wav",
        "text": "達成加入聯合國相關的同等目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/32.wav",
        "text": "聯合國幾個重要的議程是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/33.wav",
        "text": "包含永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/34.wav",
        "text": "包含跟各國之間的交流等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/35.wav",
        "text": "也是一樣藉由在國際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/36.wav",
        "text": "各種不同非聯合國體制下面的相關聯盟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/37.wav",
        "text": "去加強我國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/38.wav",
        "text": "跟其他不管是國際上的國家實體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/39.wav",
        "text": "部長你有沒有這樣的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/40.wav",
        "text": "或有沒有這樣的計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/41.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/42.wav",
        "text": "其實在全球化的時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/43.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是世界的臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/44.wav",
        "text": "這不只是說價值外交理念相近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/45.wav",
        "text": "最主要是實質上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/46.wav",
        "text": "我想包括從晶片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/47.wav",
        "text": "另外一方面是我們在國際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/48.wav",
        "text": "怎麼參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/49.wav",
        "text": "當然聯合國是最重要的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/50.wav",
        "text": "但是不只有聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/51.wav",
        "text": "我們跟很多國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/52.wav",
        "text": "之間其實很多國際組織也不屬於聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/53.wav",
        "text": "臺灣也可以創設一些國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/54.wav",
        "text": "所以臺灣在這方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/55.wav",
        "text": "我們勇敢自信世界同行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/56.wav",
        "text": "至於為什麼要處理參加聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/57.wav",
        "text": "是因為中國把臺灣參加聯合國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/58.wav",
        "text": "我們一定不能接受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/59.wav",
        "text": "這種誤用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/60.wav",
        "text": "這就像一個鍋蓋把臺灣蓋住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/61.wav",
        "text": "這個鍋蓋如果能拿走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/62.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的國際參與空間就非常大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/63.wav",
        "text": "但這個目標也是最大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/64.wav",
        "text": "很困難的一個挑戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/65.wav",
        "text": "可是以這個為目標之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/66.wav",
        "text": "我們其實在過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/67.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們的另外一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/68.wav",
        "text": "所以部長我還是要再強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/69.wav",
        "text": "除了加入聯合國之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/70.wav",
        "text": "以其他相似的功能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/71.wav",
        "text": "任何的國際組織在非聯合國體制之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/72.wav",
        "text": "我們能夠參與能夠發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/73.wav",
        "text": "甚至能夠扮演重要角色的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/74.wav",
        "text": "我想這也是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/75.wav",
        "text": "剛才有提到第2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/76.wav",
        "text": "我想請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/77.wav",
        "text": "因為第2758號決議文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/78.wav",
        "text": "現在在中國的敘事框架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/79.wav",
        "text": "部長怎麼看這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/80.wav",
        "text": "你覺得我們要怎麼樣解讀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/81.wav",
        "text": "包括美國國務院數次的聲明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/82.wav",
        "text": "都可以很清楚地看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/83.wav",
        "text": "不管就聯合國第2758號決議"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/84.wav",
        "text": "相關的國際法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/85.wav",
        "text": "其實它的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/86.wav",
        "text": "不涉及臺灣的國際參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/87.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分就是一個開放的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/88.wav",
        "text": "至於中共要把它扭曲為一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/89.wav",
        "text": "進而排除臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/90.wav",
        "text": "我想我們臺灣除了發聲以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/91.wav",
        "text": "塑造出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/92.wav",
        "text": "一套假論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/93.wav",
        "text": "跟理念相近的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/94.wav",
        "text": "像G7"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/95.wav",
        "text": "其實都以行動在加強我們的多邊關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/96.wav",
        "text": "過全球合作暨訓練架構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/97.wav",
        "text": "（GCTF）在架構另外一個可能的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/98.wav",
        "text": "不要聽信中共的片面之詞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/99.wav",
        "text": "而排除跟臺灣交往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/100.wav",
        "text": "或者國際參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/101.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/102.wav",
        "text": "部長再來要請教一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/103.wav",
        "text": "我覺得要藉這個機會以正視聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/104.wav",
        "text": "不管是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/105.wav",
        "text": "如果有這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/106.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道這個進展為如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/107.wav",
        "text": "從2000年到現在我們有幾個代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/108.wav",
        "text": "2000年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/109.wav",
        "text": "我們來講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/110.wav",
        "text": "從程建人李大維吳釗燮袁健生金溥聰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/111.wav",
        "text": "沈呂巡到高碩泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/112.wav",
        "text": "我們一切要講究的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/113.wav",
        "text": "如果不違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/114.wav",
        "text": "如果你只是用觀感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/115.wav",
        "text": "就可以用內部的方式去糾舉嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/116.wav",
        "text": "這是兩個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/117.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/118.wav",
        "text": "那就是程序上沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/119.wav",
        "text": "所以是合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/120.wav",
        "text": "但是有個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/121.wav",
        "text": "有些人覺得有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/122.wav",
        "text": "也經過媒體報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/123.wav",
        "text": "我們把它澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/124.wav",
        "text": "也就是這個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/125.wav",
        "text": "真正的價格是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/126.wav",
        "text": "有沒有反映實際上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/127.wav",
        "text": "我現在不就細部做討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/128.wav",
        "text": "因為如果要就每個細部來討論的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/129.wav",
        "text": "這樣同時可以反映到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/130.wav",
        "text": "五院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/131.wav",
        "text": "每一個部會的首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/132.wav",
        "text": "甚至包含部長本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/133.wav",
        "text": "對我們基本上都是授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/134.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我們不討論這種會計項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/135.wav",
        "text": "我們要問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/136.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛說合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/137.wav",
        "text": "再來有沒有合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/138.wav",
        "text": "前例可不可循"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/139.wav",
        "text": "從程建人李大維吳釗燮袁健生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/140.wav",
        "text": "金溥聰沈呂巡到高碩泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/141.wav",
        "text": "是不是符合前例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/142.wav",
        "text": "有或沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/143.wav",
        "text": "所以除了合法性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/144.wav",
        "text": "它的這次的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/145.wav",
        "text": "合理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/146.wav",
        "text": "有沒有不同之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/147.wav",
        "text": "就是那些項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/148.wav",
        "text": "因為一開始大家報的數字很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/149.wav",
        "text": "後來知道不是這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/150.wav",
        "text": "有一些是錯誤的報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/151.wav",
        "text": "我們就把它澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/152.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/153.wav",
        "text": "說這個具體的項目要去談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/154.wav",
        "text": "從自己的感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/155.wav",
        "text": "覺得好像比較貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/156.wav",
        "text": "可是經過說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/157.wav",
        "text": "它也是一個採購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/158.wav",
        "text": "部長我要請教的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/159.wav",
        "text": "跟前例有沒有一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/160.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/161.wav",
        "text": "我不是講單價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/162.wav",
        "text": "我不是要講價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/163.wav",
        "text": "是說如果合理又合法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/164.wav",
        "text": "那我們要還公道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/165.wav",
        "text": "如果是合法但不合理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/166.wav",
        "text": "內部要有懲處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/167.wav",
        "text": "但如果又合法又合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/168.wav",
        "text": "只是一個外交人員的看法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/169.wav",
        "text": "那內部要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/170.wav",
        "text": "所以有沒有合法有沒有合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/171.wav",
        "text": "到底這件事情是對還是錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/172.wav",
        "text": "誰對誰錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/173.wav",
        "text": "這個一定要很公正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/174.wav",
        "text": "必須要站出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/175.wav",
        "text": "到底是哪一個人做錯了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/176.wav",
        "text": "必須要有很明確課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/177.wav",
        "text": "不管是哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/178.wav",
        "text": "我們都有規範跟程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/179.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們就尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/180.wav",
        "text": "不管權責機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/181.wav",
        "text": "不管是駐外大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/182.wav",
        "text": "或者我們的秘書會計單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/183.wav",
        "text": "至於單項外界已經有報導了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/184.wav",
        "text": "因為有錯誤的訊息我們就澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/185.wav",
        "text": "去換這個床跟沙發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/186.wav",
        "text": "我今天早上也講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/187.wav",
        "text": "就床的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/188.wav",
        "text": "用20年前同樣的品牌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/189.wav",
        "text": "現在價格比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/190.wav",
        "text": "它應該是有合理性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/191.wav",
        "text": "可是沙發比一般人認定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/192.wav",
        "text": "價格可能高一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/193.wav",
        "text": "那就好好去說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/194.wav",
        "text": "這個採購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/195.wav",
        "text": "我們外交部的秘書處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/196.wav",
        "text": "我覺得只要是依法行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/197.wav",
        "text": "我都予以尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/198.wav",
        "text": "至於內部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/199.wav",
        "text": "有些人對於管理方式有意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/200.wav",
        "text": "而可能有去爆料的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/201.wav",
        "text": "我們就要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/202.wav",
        "text": "他也許還沒有去正式申訴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/203.wav",
        "text": "或者是怎麼樣的檢舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/204.wav",
        "text": "我們目前並沒有正式收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/205.wav",
        "text": "但是我們大概知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/206.wav",
        "text": "因為內部的管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/207.wav",
        "text": "又涉及在外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/208.wav",
        "text": "這個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/209.wav",
        "text": "做個檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/210.wav",
        "text": "不要因為互相的不信任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/211.wav",
        "text": "而影響我們外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/212.wav",
        "text": "的地方它能夠發揮的一個功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/213.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要針對每一個細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/214.wav",
        "text": "只是你要跟之前的代表們比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/215.wav",
        "text": "這個是不是合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/216.wav",
        "text": "如果合法合理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/217.wav",
        "text": "就可能要還公道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/218.wav",
        "text": "但如果合法但不合理就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/219.wav",
        "text": "代表也要接受檢驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/220.wav",
        "text": "這就是我一直在強調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/221.wav",
        "text": "跟前例比不是就單向比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/222.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154358/223.wav",
        "text": "謝謝\n接下來請黃國昌委員上臺質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/0.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/1.wav",
        "text": "與會人士我們今天沒有休息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/2.wav",
        "text": "人性管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/3.wav",
        "text": "請自行處理謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/4.wav",
        "text": "好我首先請教一下牡蠣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/5.wav",
        "text": "這是漁業也是食安的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/6.wav",
        "text": "全國的牡蠣其實這幾年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/7.wav",
        "text": "整體的數量是減少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/8.wav",
        "text": "但是在馬祖的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/9.wav",
        "text": "幾乎是倍增大概是兩倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/10.wav",
        "text": "從109年66公噸到148公噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/11.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/12.wav",
        "text": "部長為什麼會有這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/13.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣整體在減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/14.wav",
        "text": "而在馬祖卻是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/15.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣的牡蠣大概在兩萬噸上下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/16.wav",
        "text": "我先講國內的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/17.wav",
        "text": "然後不足的地方是從國外來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/18.wav",
        "text": "特別是以越南為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/19.wav",
        "text": "當國內的因為氣候關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/20.wav",
        "text": "調降的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/21.wav",
        "text": "越南的牡蠣就會進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/22.wav",
        "text": "可是我們發現這12年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/23.wav",
        "text": "大概多了兩千噸左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/24.wav",
        "text": "大概有兩千兩百噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/25.wav",
        "text": "不過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/26.wav",
        "text": "但是產值提高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/27.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是馬祖牡蠣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/28.wav",
        "text": "應該是66到148嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/29.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/30.wav",
        "text": "相對的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/31.wav",
        "text": "馬祖本身的這些海域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/32.wav",
        "text": "過往他比較少種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/33.wav",
        "text": "現在他們覺得種這個也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/34.wav",
        "text": "算是不錯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/35.wav",
        "text": "現在有14家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/36.wav",
        "text": "覺得這是不錯的一個行業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/37.wav",
        "text": "所以他們在馬祖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/38.wav",
        "text": "養殖了以後進到本島來賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/39.wav",
        "text": "這個通道現在大概有建立了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/40.wav",
        "text": "我只是要特別提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/41.wav",
        "text": "是高於臺灣這邊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/42.wav",
        "text": "我要講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/43.wav",
        "text": "裡面特別是鎘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/44.wav",
        "text": "鎘的部分都超過1ppm"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/45.wav",
        "text": "甚至有到2.33ppm"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/46.wav",
        "text": "我認為這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/47.wav",
        "text": "還是需要農業部跟漁業署去重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/48.wav",
        "text": "當然這涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/49.wav",
        "text": "也涉及到海巡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/50.wav",
        "text": "是不是有走私偷渡的問題等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/51.wav",
        "text": "我覺得以整個魚產品的安全性來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/52.wav",
        "text": "漁業署跟農業部還是有責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/53.wav",
        "text": "我希望在最快的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/54.wav",
        "text": "內去找各單位溝通釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/55.wav",
        "text": "這還是要做一些處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/56.wav",
        "text": "包括各種走私的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/57.wav",
        "text": "甚至把它放在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/58.wav",
        "text": "變成由這邊來採收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/59.wav",
        "text": "整個重金屬的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/60.wav",
        "text": "農業部應該要更有態度的去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/61.wav",
        "text": "我想非常重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/62.wav",
        "text": "它從馬祖過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/63.wav",
        "text": "其實我們最擔心的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/64.wav",
        "text": "所以針對馬祖種的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/65.wav",
        "text": "我們會要求它本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/66.wav",
        "text": "有產銷履歷或追溯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/67.wav",
        "text": "現在14家裡面有已經有13家了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/68.wav",
        "text": "一旦有這個追溯系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/69.wav",
        "text": "它的量就能夠瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/70.wav",
        "text": "第二個是品質的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/71.wav",
        "text": "我們會來加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/72.wav",
        "text": "農業部在做的很多像是履歷的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/73.wav",
        "text": "它來自於臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/74.wav",
        "text": "臺灣能掌控的更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/75.wav",
        "text": "我們農漁民做得更好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/76.wav",
        "text": "它就要有更好的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/77.wav",
        "text": "如果這些可能是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/78.wav",
        "text": "洗產地甚至是走私過來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/79.wav",
        "text": "它是具有重金屬風險的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/80.wav",
        "text": "我認為它應該就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/81.wav",
        "text": "這部分要持續推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/82.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠確保整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/83.wav",
        "text": "在這一塊能再多花一點時間處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/84.wav",
        "text": "接著回來講一下雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/85.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋這件事情其實已經很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/86.wav",
        "text": "部長為什麼經過了一整年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/87.wav",
        "text": "還有人在吵這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/88.wav",
        "text": "部長你怎麼看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/89.wav",
        "text": "其實從今年2月開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/90.wav",
        "text": "許多委員是針對111年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/91.wav",
        "text": "情況而我們雞蛋專案進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/92.wav",
        "text": "會讓人混淆是112年還是111年的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/93.wav",
        "text": "包括很多人認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/94.wav",
        "text": "超思一下子有合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/95.wav",
        "text": "一下子沒合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/96.wav",
        "text": "超思是在112年有合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/97.wav",
        "text": "而111年是用買斷的方式進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/98.wav",
        "text": "諸如此類的會造成一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/99.wav",
        "text": "我先問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/100.wav",
        "text": "買斷這件事情有沒有違法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/101.wav",
        "text": "用合約也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/102.wav",
        "text": "用到貨付款的方式也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/103.wav",
        "text": "這是一個非常正常的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/104.wav",
        "text": "過去以來政府都有採用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/105.wav",
        "text": "其實在中央畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/106.wav",
        "text": "我再問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/107.wav",
        "text": "也是用這樣的方式來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/108.wav",
        "text": "也是用這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/109.wav",
        "text": "在哪一年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/110.wav",
        "text": "這3年都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/111.wav",
        "text": "這3年都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/112.wav",
        "text": "用直接買斷的方式是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/113.wav",
        "text": "買斷的方去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/114.wav",
        "text": "那還有其他的例子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/115.wav",
        "text": "我請畜牧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/116.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/117.wav",
        "text": "只要透過所謂直接市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/118.wav",
        "text": "購入大家都會用這個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/119.wav",
        "text": "這幾年大概就是豬肉跟雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/120.wav",
        "text": "這幾年主要這兩個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/121.wav",
        "text": "部長我要提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/122.wav",
        "text": "就開始有缺蛋的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/123.wav",
        "text": "社會也不斷的有一些聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/124.wav",
        "text": "媒體的報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/125.wav",
        "text": "甚至還有立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/126.wav",
        "text": "雖然有禽流感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/127.wav",
        "text": "他覺得一樣也可以進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/128.wav",
        "text": "那時候整個社會的氣氛跟氛圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/129.wav",
        "text": "就是臺灣因為禽流感的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/130.wav",
        "text": "沒有蛋的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/131.wav",
        "text": "一直期盼政府能夠去找蛋來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/132.wav",
        "text": "和各黨的立委都還要求增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/133.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋的來源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/134.wav",
        "text": "讓國內能夠充分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/135.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得還是要還原到當時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/136.wav",
        "text": "脈絡裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/137.wav",
        "text": "當時大家是期待政府有積極作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/138.wav",
        "text": "來引進這些雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/139.wav",
        "text": "2022年2023年都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/140.wav",
        "text": "就我所瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/141.wav",
        "text": "當時幾乎是只要誰能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/142.wav",
        "text": "能夠把雞蛋進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/143.wav",
        "text": "大概你們都是買斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/144.wav",
        "text": "甚至引進來的一個主要依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/145.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/146.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是因為氣候還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/147.wav",
        "text": "有禽流感的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/148.wav",
        "text": "但是那時缺蛋的嚴重性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/149.wav",
        "text": "沒有112年那麼嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/150.wav",
        "text": "那時候我們剛好是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/151.wav",
        "text": "COVID-19復甦的第2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/152.wav",
        "text": "很多蛋的需求當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/153.wav",
        "text": "配合穩定後端的物價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/154.wav",
        "text": "只有臺美澳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/155.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在112年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/156.wav",
        "text": "才會比較著重在日本雞蛋的進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/157.wav",
        "text": "可是日本的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/158.wav",
        "text": "也相對遇到類似問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/159.wav",
        "text": "我們在買蛋的過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/160.wav",
        "text": "其實重點就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/161.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要買得到蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/162.wav",
        "text": "只要你有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/163.wav",
        "text": "我記得當時還有很多人問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/164.wav",
        "text": "日本的蛋為什麼便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/165.wav",
        "text": "事實上日本有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/166.wav",
        "text": "蛋也是進口進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/167.wav",
        "text": "所以我們其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/168.wav",
        "text": "也是用日本那樣的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/169.wav",
        "text": "來進口蛋來滿足臺灣的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/170.wav",
        "text": "裡面談到合約的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/171.wav",
        "text": "我甚至看到有人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/172.wav",
        "text": "講到超思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/173.wav",
        "text": "超思2022年是用買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/174.wav",
        "text": "2023年是用簽約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/175.wav",
        "text": "那亮采的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/176.wav",
        "text": "2022年是用簽約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/177.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/178.wav",
        "text": "他們在4月之前是用簽約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/179.wav",
        "text": "因為那時候是用合約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/180.wav",
        "text": "後來我們發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/181.wav",
        "text": "4月以後缺蛋的情況可能比較嚴峻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/182.wav",
        "text": "所以我們那時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/183.wav",
        "text": "所以你們在考量上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/184.wav",
        "text": "如果在沒那麼急迫的狀況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/185.wav",
        "text": "你們會採用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/186.wav",
        "text": "對這個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/187.wav",
        "text": "我們考量用合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/188.wav",
        "text": "還是用買斷的方式其中之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/189.wav",
        "text": "就必須要有一個比較長期性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/190.wav",
        "text": "像2023年專案進口的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/191.wav",
        "text": "我們希望有一個比較長期且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/192.wav",
        "text": "能穩定供應的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/193.wav",
        "text": "考慮到貿易商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/194.wav",
        "text": "如果以量不大的數量去簽約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/195.wav",
        "text": "有其麻煩性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/196.wav",
        "text": "還有他們的意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/197.wav",
        "text": "那他們的意願是用到貨付款的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/198.wav",
        "text": "我們也都會尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/199.wav",
        "text": "這件事情吵很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/200.wav",
        "text": "從去年8月一直提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/201.wav",
        "text": "到現在已經快要1年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/202.wav",
        "text": "內部也做了相關的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/203.wav",
        "text": "部長就你們的調查瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/204.wav",
        "text": "到底裡面有沒有涉及違法的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/205.wav",
        "text": "我們看到的行政調查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/206.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋的處理過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/207.wav",
        "text": "有檢討的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/208.wav",
        "text": "我舉個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/209.wav",
        "text": "就像我們看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/210.wav",
        "text": "的他們沒有依照政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/211.wav",
        "text": "你講的是倉儲跟運輸的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/212.wav",
        "text": "是沒有問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/213.wav",
        "text": "直接買斷是絕對沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/214.wav",
        "text": "它是貿易的行為之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/215.wav",
        "text": "因為牽涉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/216.wav",
        "text": "補助款的給與所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/217.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/218.wav",
        "text": "檢調有沒有介入調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/219.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有辦法很清楚釐清的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/220.wav",
        "text": "很單純"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/221.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/222.wav",
        "text": "那這個關係我們已經因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/223.wav",
        "text": "因為以農業部督導的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/224.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候移送的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/225.wav",
        "text": "大概是5月底6月初的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/226.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/227.wav",
        "text": "儘快把它釐清好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/228.wav",
        "text": "政府部門的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/229.wav",
        "text": "如果有任何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/230.wav",
        "text": "指控是不實的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/231.wav",
        "text": "我希望部長要強力的去捍衛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/232.wav",
        "text": "因為這有很多是政策性的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/233.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/234.wav",
        "text": "爭議如果有任何不法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/235.wav",
        "text": "當然司法該怎麼辦就怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/236.wav",
        "text": "但如果沒有涉及不法那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/237.wav",
        "text": "也要還給同仁們清白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/238.wav",
        "text": "相關的採購跟進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/239.wav",
        "text": "這個問題又會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/240.wav",
        "text": "更複雜的政治問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/241.wav",
        "text": "瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154359/242.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席麻煩請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/2.wav",
        "text": "部長好針對駐美大使在他住的地方採買的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/3.wav",
        "text": "引發了社會非常多的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/4.wav",
        "text": "部長在今天詢答的過程也做了很多的表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/5.wav",
        "text": "範圍比較大而不是只有這個個案的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/6.wav",
        "text": "但編密件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/7.wav",
        "text": "雖然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/8.wav",
        "text": "我對於這個事情為什麼要編密件老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/9.wav",
        "text": "我從法律的角度百思不得其解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/10.wav",
        "text": "但我尊重外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/11.wav",
        "text": "你們編密件我就把它全部遮起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/12.wav",
        "text": "內容我有看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/13.wav",
        "text": "但你們編密件了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/14.wav",
        "text": "給我的訊號是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/15.wav",
        "text": "細節不能公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/16.wav",
        "text": "內容不能討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/17.wav",
        "text": "要不然會有洩密的問題嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/18.wav",
        "text": "嘛你們編密件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/19.wav",
        "text": "的基礎應該是行政院的文書處理手冊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/20.wav",
        "text": "第51條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/21.wav",
        "text": "各機關就主管業務核定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/22.wav",
        "text": "一般公務機密文書應依法律或法律具體明確授權之法規命令為之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/23.wav",
        "text": "你們這次編密件的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/24.wav",
        "text": "法律或者是法律授權的法規命令是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/25.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/26.wav",
        "text": "我是不是請同仁來說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/27.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/28.wav",
        "text": "因為我們各個外館的經費明細是放在我們的機密預算的內容去表達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/29.wav",
        "text": "那這樣子的表達方式其實每年都有經過大院審議同意通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/30.wav",
        "text": "所以我們送給委員的資料是依照相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/31.wav",
        "text": "因為你一直跟我講相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/32.wav",
        "text": "所以我幫你們把行政院文書處理手冊第51條列出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/33.wav",
        "text": "是我引的條次錯了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/34.wav",
        "text": "還是你用其他條文的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/35.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是法治國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/36.wav",
        "text": "這種事情要說清楚講明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/37.wav",
        "text": "他是說總預算在提出的時候有列在機密預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/38.wav",
        "text": "第51條應依法律或法律具體明確授權之法規命令為之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/39.wav",
        "text": "那我現在就請教你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/40.wav",
        "text": "你的法律或法律授權的法規命令基礎是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/41.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很基本的問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/42.wav",
        "text": "我們號稱我們希望臺灣是一個民主法治的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/43.wav",
        "text": "我們跟老共不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/44.wav",
        "text": "上面的人說了就算臺灣就不是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/45.wav",
        "text": "那請問法規的依據是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/46.wav",
        "text": "我想經過大院審過的預算放在機密預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/47.wav",
        "text": "它本身也具有法律的效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/48.wav",
        "text": "我這樣講好了啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/49.wav",
        "text": "你說列為機密預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/50.wav",
        "text": "所以把它露出來有法律的效力沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/51.wav",
        "text": "你做這樣子的說明法律上面站得住腳站不住腳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/52.wav",
        "text": "大家可以進一步討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/53.wav",
        "text": "你們說這些資訊有機敏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/54.wav",
        "text": "敏性恐遭中共掌握我國外館的資源配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/55.wav",
        "text": "我國外館大使的宿舍沙發花多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/56.wav",
        "text": "我們擔心中共掌握所以會發生什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/57.wav",
        "text": "我們咖啡機花多少錢擔心中共掌握所以會發生什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/58.wav",
        "text": "會擔心我們的大使咖啡喝太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/59.wav",
        "text": "然後臺灣的外交會做得太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/60.wav",
        "text": "因為這個基本上的邏輯跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/61.wav",
        "text": "道理要跟一般的民眾講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/62.wav",
        "text": "不然大家沒辦法理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/63.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/64.wav",
        "text": "請我們同仁說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/65.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/66.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們提供的資料是比較個案零星"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/67.wav",
        "text": "但是這涉及到整體的資源配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/68.wav",
        "text": "今天如果我將這些零星的資料用公開方式給委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/69.wav",
        "text": "我後續的資料如果把它列為密件的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/70.wav",
        "text": "委員一定會質疑為什麼前面是公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/71.wav",
        "text": "所以我在處理的過程當中一定要有一個一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/72.wav",
        "text": "委員如果需要資料我們絕對可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/73.wav",
        "text": "但是希望還是遵從依照相關規定辦理謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/74.wav",
        "text": "對所以我才一直問你相關規定是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/75.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員剛剛部長其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/76.wav",
        "text": "來來來剛剛你一直在講相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/77.wav",
        "text": "嘛我就具體請教你相關規定是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/78.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員剛剛部長講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/79.wav",
        "text": "只要大院這邊審議同意的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/80.wav",
        "text": "其實它的效力是形同法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/81.wav",
        "text": "好如果今天我把具體的數字講出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/82.wav",
        "text": "有沒有洩密罪的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/83.wav",
        "text": "具體的數目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/84.wav",
        "text": "譬如我今天講說沙發花了多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/85.wav",
        "text": "我把它講出去有洩密的問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/86.wav",
        "text": "有還是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/87.wav",
        "text": "我尊重委員的決定謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/88.wav",
        "text": "這不是你尊重我的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/89.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是一個法治國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/90.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/91.wav",
        "text": "所以你們依照的法律到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/92.wav",
        "text": "然後你今天跟我說你尊重我的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/93.wav",
        "text": "我具體的請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/94.wav",
        "text": "站在外交部的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/95.wav",
        "text": "我把一套沙發花了多少錢講出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/96.wav",
        "text": "有沒有洩密罪的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/97.wav",
        "text": "有還是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/98.wav",
        "text": "我們用密件處理希望委員依照相關規定辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/99.wav",
        "text": "是啦所以到目前為止我都尊重你們的密件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/100.wav",
        "text": "嘛我請教你密件的法律基礎是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/101.wav",
        "text": "問到現在你還是講不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/102.wav",
        "text": "好來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/103.wav",
        "text": "因為分層授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/104.wav",
        "text": "啦他用密是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/105.wav",
        "text": "我們原始的預算資料如果整個出去公布那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/106.wav",
        "text": "未來所有比照辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/107.wav",
        "text": "只是裡面單項數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/108.wav",
        "text": "因為有當然是可以做一些報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/109.wav",
        "text": "編列密件的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/110.wav",
        "text": "臺灣作為一個法治國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/111.wav",
        "text": "要不要有一個客觀的法律標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/112.wav",
        "text": "應該要有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/113.wav",
        "text": "部長你應該可以同意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/114.wav",
        "text": "好來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/115.wav",
        "text": "去年外交部單位決算書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/116.wav",
        "text": "2023年12月5號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/117.wav",
        "text": "電匯預付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/118.wav",
        "text": "美國購置新任俞大使館長職務宿舍家具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/119.wav",
        "text": "及公務手機所需費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/120.wav",
        "text": "7,697美金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/121.wav",
        "text": "奇怪這不是機密嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/122.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會在決算報告裡面寫得這麼清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/123.wav",
        "text": "在決算報告寫成這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/124.wav",
        "text": "然後告訴立委索資說這是機密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/125.wav",
        "text": "這個會不會洩漏我國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/126.wav",
        "text": "在大使的資源配置啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/127.wav",
        "text": "他說不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/128.wav",
        "text": "報告委員因為我們在決算書上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/129.wav",
        "text": "只會去揭露預付款的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/130.wav",
        "text": "這是屬於零星採購是看不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/131.wav",
        "text": "整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/132.wav",
        "text": "但是你讓大家知道最少花了7,600嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/133.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/134.wav",
        "text": "但是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/135.wav",
        "text": "之所以解釋提供委員的資料會涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/136.wav",
        "text": "密件是因為會看得出來說整體資源的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/137.wav",
        "text": "我再說一次啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/138.wav",
        "text": "這個零星採購是看不出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/139.wav",
        "text": "零星採購看不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/140.wav",
        "text": "一個沙發多少錢看得出來看不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/141.wav",
        "text": "我們是儘量公開就公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/142.wav",
        "text": "但是如果會涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/143.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/144.wav",
        "text": "所以你今天的論點是說一套沙發多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/145.wav",
        "text": "會危及到整體資源的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/146.wav",
        "text": "不是對不起委員不是這樣解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/147.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你不就是這樣說嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/148.wav",
        "text": "沒有這是屬於零星購置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/149.wav",
        "text": "但是我提供給委員資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/150.wav",
        "text": "所以買沙發不是零星購置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/151.wav",
        "text": "沒有我是說預付款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/152.wav",
        "text": "買咖啡機是不是零星購置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/153.wav",
        "text": "買手機是不是零星購置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/154.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/155.wav",
        "text": "因為在預付款上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/156.wav",
        "text": "只有部分項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/157.wav",
        "text": "我們提供給委員的項目是比較有整體性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/158.wav",
        "text": "會看出來全貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/159.wav",
        "text": "我還是問你能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/160.wav",
        "text": "咖啡機一臺多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/161.wav",
        "text": "會不會揭露整體配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/162.wav",
        "text": "會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/163.wav",
        "text": "他說不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/164.wav",
        "text": "所以咖啡機一臺多少錢是可以講的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/165.wav",
        "text": "沙發一套多少錢是可以講的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/166.wav",
        "text": "他講單項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/167.wav",
        "text": "因為只要不涉及整體預算結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/168.wav",
        "text": "我們整個外館預算的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/169.wav",
        "text": "所以既然剛剛部長講了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/170.wav",
        "text": "可是列為密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/171.wav",
        "text": "咖啡機多少可以講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/172.wav",
        "text": "沙發多少錢可以講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/173.wav",
        "text": "這個是剛剛部長說的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/174.wav",
        "text": "我應該沒有誤會錯吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/175.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/176.wav",
        "text": "但是如果委員因為各項一直在詢問的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/177.wav",
        "text": "會涉及到整體的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/178.wav",
        "text": "就看得出來這樣子我們就要去審慎考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/179.wav",
        "text": "因為預付款這個項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/180.wav",
        "text": "看不出來單項各多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/181.wav",
        "text": "它只是一個總數而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/182.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/183.wav",
        "text": "我再說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/184.wav",
        "text": "國家機密有國家機密保護法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/185.wav",
        "text": "一般公務機密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/186.wav",
        "text": "有一般公務機的法律或法規命令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/187.wav",
        "text": "臺灣是一個法治國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/188.wav",
        "text": "什麼是密什麼不是密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/189.wav",
        "text": "這應該要有法律明確的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/190.wav",
        "text": "絕對不應該是行政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/191.wav",
        "text": "個別恣意的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/192.wav",
        "text": "這樣的原則部長可以同意吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/193.wav",
        "text": "原則是可以啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/194.wav",
        "text": "但是因為給委員的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/195.wav",
        "text": "是很完整的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/196.wav",
        "text": "那個結構它用個密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/197.wav",
        "text": "其實並不是說我們不能夠討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/198.wav",
        "text": "委員會不知道還是可以知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/199.wav",
        "text": "但是我們不能公開討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/200.wav",
        "text": "因為公開討論就洩密啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/201.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得那個結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/202.wav",
        "text": "因為給委員的是只給單向嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/203.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在討論的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/204.wav",
        "text": "所以我單向可以討論嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/205.wav",
        "text": "可以因為有些錯誤的報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/206.wav",
        "text": "我們當然要澄清不然會造成傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/207.wav",
        "text": "啊這個單向我是覺得解釋上是可以好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/208.wav",
        "text": "按你們內部報帳的規則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/209.wav",
        "text": "有沒有任何規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/210.wav",
        "text": "一套沙發最高金額多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/211.wav",
        "text": "因為各地的物價還有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/212.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係我們就以美國來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/213.wav",
        "text": "一套沙發最高的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/214.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/215.wav",
        "text": "因為你們剛剛一直跟大家講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/216.wav",
        "text": "合乎規定所以報銷嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/217.wav",
        "text": "合乎規定報銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/218.wav",
        "text": "合法的我們一定都尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/219.wav",
        "text": "合不合理規定有沒有需要修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/220.wav",
        "text": "可以再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/221.wav",
        "text": "但我現在問題來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/222.wav",
        "text": "依照你們目前的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/223.wav",
        "text": "一套沙發有沒有設上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/224.wav",
        "text": "我講的是規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/225.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有牽涉到個案喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/226.wav",
        "text": "一套沙發以在美國來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/227.wav",
        "text": "我們採購上限的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/228.wav",
        "text": "按照目前外交部的規定是多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/229.wav",
        "text": "還是這也是外交秘密不能說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/230.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有規定啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/231.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/232.wav",
        "text": "沒有規定上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/233.wav",
        "text": "這樣合理嗎部長你覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/234.wav",
        "text": "每個個案都要去討論嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/235.wav",
        "text": "因為當地的物價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/236.wav",
        "text": "沒有我現在沒有在跟你討論個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/237.wav",
        "text": "我現在在跟你討論規定嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/238.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/239.wav",
        "text": "採購的金額如果沒有上限的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/240.wav",
        "text": "那就是不管買多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/241.wav",
        "text": "全部都合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/242.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有上限啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/243.wav",
        "text": "就要按照規則嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/244.wav",
        "text": "所以我才問你規則有沒有上限嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/245.wav",
        "text": "的它一定是衡量各種情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/246.wav",
        "text": "各國的物價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/247.wav",
        "text": "謝謝時間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/248.wav",
        "text": "你們把事情複雜化了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/249.wav",
        "text": "你用的公開預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/250.wav",
        "text": "你用的科目是哪一個科目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/251.wav",
        "text": "你把它編在密件嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/252.wav",
        "text": "機密嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/253.wav",
        "text": "這是公開的預算吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/254.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們駐外館處的總數是編在公開預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/255.wav",
        "text": "但是各個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/256.wav",
        "text": "對啊你是編在公開預算啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/257.wav",
        "text": "那你現在是胡說八道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/258.wav",
        "text": "沒關係你們把它釐清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/259.wav",
        "text": "本來一個很簡單的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/260.wav",
        "text": "大家在質疑不管是朝野的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/261.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望把它釐清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/262.wav",
        "text": "如果會造成傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/263.wav",
        "text": "我們就要把它講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/264.wav",
        "text": "\n不好意思因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/265.wav",
        "text": "只拜託部長一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/266.wav",
        "text": "我們駐外人員需要的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/267.wav",
        "text": "在第一線打仗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/268.wav",
        "text": "我們一定支持啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/269.wav",
        "text": "公務的支出我們一定支持啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/270.wav",
        "text": "但是花這個數額去買沙發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/271.wav",
        "text": "必要性在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/272.wav",
        "text": "那不是在辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/273.wav",
        "text": "那是在他住的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/274.wav",
        "text": "大家才會問嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/275.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/276.wav",
        "text": "也不跟你講個案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/277.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/278.wav",
        "text": "外交部可不可以告訴所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/279.wav",
        "text": "我們在外館採購各項物品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/280.wav",
        "text": "我們所依循的規定是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/281.wav",
        "text": "還是有各項變數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/282.wav",
        "text": "我們要出國開會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/283.wav",
        "text": "去哪裡一天報多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/284.wav",
        "text": "什麼可以報什麼不可以報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/285.wav",
        "text": "項目是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/286.wav",
        "text": "全部都有規定啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/287.wav",
        "text": "但我今天赫然發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/288.wav",
        "text": "原來買外館的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/289.wav",
        "text": "我現在在講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/290.wav",
        "text": "不是什麼機密的公務的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/291.wav",
        "text": "我現在在講的是咖啡機啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/292.wav",
        "text": "是沙發啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/293.wav",
        "text": "是床啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/294.wav",
        "text": "是床頭櫃啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/295.wav",
        "text": "這些東西可以沒有標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/296.wav",
        "text": "愛怎麼買就怎麼買嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/297.wav",
        "text": "這是我的問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/298.wav",
        "text": "1萬元以上要報到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/299.wav",
        "text": "這個程序我們會檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/300.wav",
        "text": "避免有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/301.wav",
        "text": "相關的程序跟標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/302.wav",
        "text": "會後可不可以提供給所有的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/303.wav",
        "text": "程序跟標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/304.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要個案喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/305.wav",
        "text": "程序跟標準就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/306.wav",
        "text": "如果這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/307.wav",
        "text": "因為已經有大家的寶貴意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/308.wav",
        "text": "我們會納入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/309.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼樣能夠讓它有個更明確的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/310.wav",
        "text": "對所以你的程序跟規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/311.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以提供給大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/312.wav",
        "text": "可以喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/313.wav",
        "text": "可能也順便提供一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/314.wav",
        "text": "因為不知道你用的是哪一個科目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154360/315.wav",
        "text": "可是提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/0.wav",
        "text": "請原民會跟人事行政總"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/1.wav",
        "text": "先請教副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/2.wav",
        "text": "你贊成原民會主委兼任政委嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/3.wav",
        "text": "行政院人事任用法規的解釋跟適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/4.wav",
        "text": "我們還是尊重人事總處的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/5.wav",
        "text": "我現在不是問法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/6.wav",
        "text": "我只問你有沒有這個需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/7.wav",
        "text": "你作為一個原民會的副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/8.wav",
        "text": "所以你的意思是其實無所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/9.wav",
        "text": "兼不兼無所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/10.wav",
        "text": "以目前我們在推動整個原民會的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/11.wav",
        "text": "上我們也有透過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/12.wav",
        "text": "我直接問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/13.wav",
        "text": "兼任政委對你們原住民族委員會來說在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/14.wav",
        "text": "推動事務當中是不是會更有著力點一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/15.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/16.wav",
        "text": "是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/17.wav",
        "text": "所以作為原住民族委員會的副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/18.wav",
        "text": "這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/19.wav",
        "text": "我覺得就要有你原住民族委員會的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/20.wav",
        "text": "請問一下你們反對的原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/21.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/22.wav",
        "text": "還有行政院組織法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/23.wav",
        "text": "所設定的這些委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/24.wav",
        "text": "本身就是在做跨部會協調整合的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/25.wav",
        "text": "規定機關首長除依性質特殊法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/26.wav",
        "text": "規另有規定者外應為專任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/27.wav",
        "text": "現行行政院組織法第4條第5條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/28.wav",
        "text": "行政院有9個委員會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/29.wav",
        "text": "可以兼任政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/30.wav",
        "text": "其中國發會跟國科會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/31.wav",
        "text": "因為具有跨部會整合功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/32.wav",
        "text": "而原民會因性質比較單一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/33.wav",
        "text": "所以你們認為沒有兼任政委的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/34.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/35.wav",
        "text": "就是國發會跟國科會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/36.wav",
        "text": "主要是針對各機關的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/37.wav",
        "text": "要進行相關的一個審議跟資源分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/38.wav",
        "text": "這個部分也是委員在修法的時候增列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/39.wav",
        "text": "你認同人事行政總處這個見解嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/40.wav",
        "text": "請從業務端來看我先不講法規端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/41.wav",
        "text": "我這樣問好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/42.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會管的相關原住民工作包含哪些項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/43.wav",
        "text": "包括教育文化社會福利工程建設土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/44.wav",
        "text": "政策規劃地方基礎建設等等算是包羅萬象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/45.wav",
        "text": "的確教育文化經濟觀光產業土地海域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/46.wav",
        "text": "等等我就直接說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/47.wav",
        "text": "原住民族委員會所管的事項真的是包山包海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/48.wav",
        "text": "國防好像也有點關係喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/49.wav",
        "text": "我要跟你講它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/50.wav",
        "text": "它跨部會需要的工作恐怕是各個部會裡面最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/51.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/52.wav",
        "text": "所以我們常有一些跨部會的協商機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/53.wav",
        "text": "對啊可是他們認為你們跨部會的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/54.wav",
        "text": "不像國科會或者是國發會那麼高啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/55.wav",
        "text": "所以你們是非常單一的單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/56.wav",
        "text": "你認同人事行政總處這個見解嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/57.wav",
        "text": "我們還是尊重人事總處的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/58.wav",
        "text": "我是從業務端來看他們是從法制端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/59.wav",
        "text": "因為現在在整個機制上我們的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/60.wav",
        "text": "都有透過這樣一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/61.wav",
        "text": "包括跟教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/62.wav",
        "text": "我跟副主委講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/63.wav",
        "text": "你是原民會的副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/64.wav",
        "text": "你今天為了爭取原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/65.wav",
        "text": "不管是法規建置的優化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/66.wav",
        "text": "不管是福利預算的爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/67.wav",
        "text": "你要從我們原住民朋友的角度去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/68.wav",
        "text": "我只講一個最簡單的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/69.wav",
        "text": "我就認為人事行政總處這個論點不成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/70.wav",
        "text": "我比你還敢幫原住民講話啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/71.wav",
        "text": "你覺得這成立嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/72.wav",
        "text": "我還真找不出比原住民族委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/73.wav",
        "text": "更跨部會的一個單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/74.wav",
        "text": "有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/75.wav",
        "text": "經濟事務涉及哪個部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/76.wav",
        "text": "環境事務涉及哪個部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/77.wav",
        "text": "海洋事務涉及哪個部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/78.wav",
        "text": "是一個跨部會需求最高的單位所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/79.wav",
        "text": "能夠把這件事情納入考慮並"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/80.wav",
        "text": "不是你們講的所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/81.wav",
        "text": "它有單一性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/82.wav",
        "text": "我覺得原住民族委員會並不單一啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/83.wav",
        "text": "它跨部會需求非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/84.wav",
        "text": "\n我再舉個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/85.wav",
        "text": "請問我們的副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/86.wav",
        "text": "原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/87.wav",
        "text": "在民國94年立法之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/88.wav",
        "text": "相關子法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/89.wav",
        "text": "相關子法大概已經完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/90.wav",
        "text": "85%以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/91.wav",
        "text": "現在只剩下5個法還沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/92.wav",
        "text": "原住民族自治法的進度怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/93.wav",
        "text": "自治法目前朝著分流立法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/94.wav",
        "text": "然後目前大概是針對幾個族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/95.wav",
        "text": "像太魯閣族跟魯凱族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/96.wav",
        "text": "就這個族群的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/97.wav",
        "text": "希望請他們就有關自治的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/98.wav",
        "text": "非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/99.wav",
        "text": "上次已經送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/100.wav",
        "text": "了針對我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/101.wav",
        "text": "原住民族生物多樣性條例法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/102.wav",
        "text": "的進展如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/103.wav",
        "text": "因為它的問題比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/104.wav",
        "text": "還必須要去做更多的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/105.wav",
        "text": "更多的跨部會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/106.wav",
        "text": "是是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/107.wav",
        "text": "你知道我要問什麼了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/108.wav",
        "text": "理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/109.wav",
        "text": "這些法制修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/110.wav",
        "text": "需不需要跨部會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/111.wav",
        "text": "可能有需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/112.wav",
        "text": "所以為什麼今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/113.wav",
        "text": "在這邊我們立法委員會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/114.wav",
        "text": "也可以兼任政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/115.wav",
        "text": "因為政委先天的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/116.wav",
        "text": "政委的功能主要就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/117.wav",
        "text": "以他政務委員的身分來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/118.wav",
        "text": "跨部會很多的協調整合工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/119.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/120.wav",
        "text": "也同時兼任政委的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/121.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講了這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/122.wav",
        "text": "法規端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/123.wav",
        "text": "其實你就會知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/124.wav",
        "text": "基本上他就有一個更好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/125.wav",
        "text": "更優化的法案並進行跨部會的協調工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/126.wav",
        "text": "副主委認不認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/127.wav",
        "text": "當然如果有機會的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/128.wav",
        "text": "跟人事行政總處多溝通好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154361/129.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝羅委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/0.wav",
        "text": "有請部長跟畜牧司司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/1.wav",
        "text": "我們請以上兩位謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/2.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/3.wav",
        "text": "顯然這600萬顆我們已經找到了真正的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/4.wav",
        "text": "因為在111年到112年當初的整個氛圍裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/5.wav",
        "text": "我們是真的缺蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/6.wav",
        "text": "農業部有抑制整體的不管是豬還是我們的豬肉或是我們的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/7.wav",
        "text": "蛋生產過剩的時候可以拿去養豬嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/8.wav",
        "text": "現在是沒有這樣的一個做法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/9.wav",
        "text": "做成堆肥啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/10.wav",
        "text": "這個蛋粉的成本是非常高的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/11.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣子對那個司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/12.wav",
        "text": "報告委員沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/13.wav",
        "text": "因為蛋粉的成本大概會遠高於蛋的價值好幾倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/14.wav",
        "text": "111年到112年採買雞蛋的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/15.wav",
        "text": "所有農業的問題對我來講是非常非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/16.wav",
        "text": "我們專案進口蛋的起因就是因為缺蛋嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/17.wav",
        "text": "可是在生產過剩的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/18.wav",
        "text": "也就是說產銷失衡調節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/19.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法有一個一致的章節的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/20.wav",
        "text": "缺蛋剩蛋就會成為一個惡性循環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/21.wav",
        "text": "在這裡我要特別跟我們部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/22.wav",
        "text": "這些都應該在我們的檢討範圍內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/23.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得我們必須要有一套比較完整的策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/24.wav",
        "text": "像發生這樣狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/25.wav",
        "text": "我們有沒有什麼替代的方式呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/26.wav",
        "text": "我想第一個有關飼料的部分沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/27.wav",
        "text": "我們是從國外進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/28.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在是用調降關稅的方式去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/29.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望調降的關稅能夠反應給農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/30.wav",
        "text": "這是一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/31.wav",
        "text": "\n第二件事情就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/32.wav",
        "text": "我們目前這些玉米飼料如果沒有的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/33.wav",
        "text": "我們還有其他一些用米的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/34.wav",
        "text": "像雞的部分可以用殘米的部分去做飼料的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/35.wav",
        "text": "我跟你說部長你用碎米用公糧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/36.wav",
        "text": "這些價格都太高了量也少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/37.wav",
        "text": "顯然這個方式應該是第二順位的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/38.wav",
        "text": "有沒有第一順位積極的方式呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/39.wav",
        "text": "\n還有本席在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/40.wav",
        "text": "還要跟你探討的是農業相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/41.wav",
        "text": "它的員額編制40人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/42.wav",
        "text": "工作是負責所有畜牧政策規劃及推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/43.wav",
        "text": "畜產會有90%是靠農業部來補助員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/44.wav",
        "text": "結果是有權無責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/45.wav",
        "text": "其實它的權力很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/46.wav",
        "text": "喔它負責的是經費補助產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/47.wav",
        "text": "其實這些單位你應該要有所調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/48.wav",
        "text": "我剛才還跟鍾佳濱委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/49.wav",
        "text": "這個是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/50.wav",
        "text": "在這一個階段裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/51.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法讓畜牧業務回歸到公務體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/52.wav",
        "text": "這樣你才好督導好指揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/53.wav",
        "text": "然後可以提出這樣的效能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/54.wav",
        "text": "這是本席長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/55.wav",
        "text": "所以部長你覺得呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/56.wav",
        "text": "其實這個建議我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/57.wav",
        "text": "組織改造的過程中也被討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/58.wav",
        "text": "但是因為牽涉到總員額法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/59.wav",
        "text": "已經滿額了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/60.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有辦法直接把畜產會納入公務體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/61.wav",
        "text": "但是一個非常重要的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/62.wav",
        "text": "我會去強化整個畜產會的管理系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/63.wav",
        "text": "我覺得它的管理系統有非常非常大的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/64.wav",
        "text": "要去重新建構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/65.wav",
        "text": "如果管理體制做得好的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/66.wav",
        "text": "這個我們正積極在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/67.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/68.wav",
        "text": "你已經看到我們整個畜牧產業的一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/69.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望你能有一個積極的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/70.wav",
        "text": "我是獸醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/71.wav",
        "text": "所以我講的應該還有一些參考的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/72.wav",
        "text": "對絕對有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154362/73.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/0.wav",
        "text": "林委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/1.wav",
        "text": "組織法第3條第4條修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/2.wav",
        "text": "由山地原住民與平地原住民輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/3.wav",
        "text": "另外由行政院長提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/4.wav",
        "text": "也要經過具原住民身分的議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/5.wav",
        "text": "行政院長提名請總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/6.wav",
        "text": "所以你不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/7.wav",
        "text": "但是我要請教主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/8.wav",
        "text": "你認為主委是不是要跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/9.wav",
        "text": "或者部落熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/10.wav",
        "text": "是一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/11.wav",
        "text": "而且要溝通無礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/12.wav",
        "text": "有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/13.wav",
        "text": "或者是反映原鄉部落的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/14.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/15.wav",
        "text": "如果主委純粹是由行政院長提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/16.wav",
        "text": "然後總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/17.wav",
        "text": "但是這個主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/18.wav",
        "text": "跟所有族人不熟悉的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/19.wav",
        "text": "你認為他的政務會推行得很順暢嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/20.wav",
        "text": "當然如果不熟悉會不順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/21.wav",
        "text": "不過以我們這28年來的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/22.wav",
        "text": "所有被任命適才適任的首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/23.wav",
        "text": "大概都跟族人熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/24.wav",
        "text": "副主委這是你的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/25.wav",
        "text": "我過去也在內政委會待過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/26.wav",
        "text": "夷將當主委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/27.wav",
        "text": "有兩個原鄉部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/28.wav",
        "text": "你說主委真的跟他們那麼熟嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/29.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/30.wav",
        "text": "並沒有像你講的什麼很熟悉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/31.wav",
        "text": "是說由山地原住民平地原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/32.wav",
        "text": "輪流擔任主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/33.wav",
        "text": "當初分山原平原也是因為區域的劃分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/34.wav",
        "text": "我說主委由他們輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/35.wav",
        "text": "你贊不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/36.wav",
        "text": "你的回答很簡單贊不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/37.wav",
        "text": "我看你的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/38.wav",
        "text": "聽一下你的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/39.wav",
        "text": "這是提名跟任命權的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/40.wav",
        "text": "有關是不是提名山原平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/41.wav",
        "text": "因為目前在憲法裡面提到山原平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/42.wav",
        "text": "大概只有立法委員選舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/43.wav",
        "text": "是副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/44.wav",
        "text": "你可以站在原民的立場講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/45.wav",
        "text": "平地原住民的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/46.wav",
        "text": "可能會比較均衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/47.wav",
        "text": "比較平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/48.wav",
        "text": "不會每次都是平地原住民擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/49.wav",
        "text": "或者是山地原住民擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/50.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/51.wav",
        "text": "都沒有機會擔任主委嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/52.wav",
        "text": "用輪流的方式可能會比較恰當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/53.wav",
        "text": "原民會跳脫一種思考邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/54.wav",
        "text": "原住民自治重不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/55.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛也跟你講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/56.wav",
        "text": "如果他要去當主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/57.wav",
        "text": "他的一個條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/58.wav",
        "text": "所以你要很熟悉地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/59.wav",
        "text": "如果你要熟悉地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/60.wav",
        "text": "具有民意基礎的這些民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/61.wav",
        "text": "嘛他很熟悉你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/62.wav",
        "text": "才能夠去跟你提出很多的建言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/63.wav",
        "text": "由他們來審查同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/64.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個對原民自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/65.wav",
        "text": "是非常正面的一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/66.wav",
        "text": "所以主委你們可以跳脫這個思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/67.wav",
        "text": "是很有創意的一個設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/68.wav",
        "text": "啊你們看如何在這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/69.wav",
        "text": "不違憲的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/70.wav",
        "text": "讓這個條文能夠實現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/71.wav",
        "text": "我覺得有它的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/72.wav",
        "text": "副主委你們是不是未來在逐條審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/73.wav",
        "text": "在行政院提供相關意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/74.wav",
        "text": "的時候可以跳脫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/75.wav",
        "text": "你們現在固有框架的思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/76.wav",
        "text": "讓原民的發展能夠更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/77.wav",
        "text": "啦另外我想再請問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/78.wav",
        "text": "你去過新竹縣沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/79.wav",
        "text": "新竹縣我剛才講就是有五峰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/80.wav",
        "text": "還有尖石這兩個原鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/81.wav",
        "text": "最近五峰鄉的觀光特色景點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/82.wav",
        "text": "你可以臚列幾個給我聽聽看嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/83.wav",
        "text": "五峰鄉有溫泉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/84.wav",
        "text": "張學良故居"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/85.wav",
        "text": "五峰的清泉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/86.wav",
        "text": "你有去過清泉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/87.wav",
        "text": "張學良故居也去過兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/88.wav",
        "text": "是還有三毛的故居"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/89.wav",
        "text": "我看最近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/90.wav",
        "text": "新竹縣政府有向交通部觀光局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/91.wav",
        "text": "申請了一筆經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/92.wav",
        "text": "請問原民會這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/93.wav",
        "text": "有沒有補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/94.wav",
        "text": "這個案子我可能要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/95.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/96.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/97.wav",
        "text": "有關交通的部分是由觀光局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/98.wav",
        "text": "主管但是現在本會針對產業的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/99.wav",
        "text": "包括五峰的清泉溫泉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/100.wav",
        "text": "還有五峰的觀光旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/101.wav",
        "text": "我們都有補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/102.wav",
        "text": "相關的資料可以再提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/103.wav",
        "text": "是可以再提供一份書面給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/104.wav",
        "text": "這三年的好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/105.wav",
        "text": "我要瞭解這三年你們補助的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/106.wav",
        "text": "大概是怎麼沒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/107.wav",
        "text": "還有我們竹東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/108.wav",
        "text": "有一個Wah"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/109.wav",
        "text": "也有去過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/110.wav",
        "text": "當時在夷將主委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/111.wav",
        "text": "曾去開幕剪綵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/112.wav",
        "text": "最近我看它運作得也不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/113.wav",
        "text": "是全臺唯一原民的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/114.wav",
        "text": "就在我們竹東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/115.wav",
        "text": "也是我的家鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/116.wav",
        "text": "我也很光榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/117.wav",
        "text": "目前發展得不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/118.wav",
        "text": "也希望原民會繼續支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/119.wav",
        "text": "不管是農特產品的展銷銷售"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/120.wav",
        "text": "還有我們整個原民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/121.wav",
        "text": "另外在這個地方還有美食"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/122.wav",
        "text": "還有音樂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/123.wav",
        "text": "所以這個地方我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/124.wav",
        "text": "原民會繼續給他們支持鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/125.wav",
        "text": "是沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/126.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/127.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154363/128.wav",
        "text": "\n下一位請鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/0.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員有請鍾副主委還有人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/1.wav",
        "text": "y 是鄭委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/2.wav",
        "text": "中華民國憲法增修條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/3.wav",
        "text": "規定國家應依民族意願保障原住民族之地位及政治參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/4.wav",
        "text": "本席所提的修法都是合憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/5.wav",
        "text": "憲法第56條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/6.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有違反"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/7.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/8.wav",
        "text": "我們一個一個來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/9.wav",
        "text": "很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/10.wav",
        "text": "原住民族基本法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/11.wav",
        "text": "依憲法增修條文規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/12.wav",
        "text": "要原住民族自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/13.wav",
        "text": "但是8年來一直都沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/14.wav",
        "text": "夷將主委8年來都沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/15.wav",
        "text": "過去的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/16.wav",
        "text": "過去的總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/17.wav",
        "text": "都有送原住民族自治法到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/18.wav",
        "text": "唯獨這8年來都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/19.wav",
        "text": "蘇貞昌院長說分流立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/20.wav",
        "text": "今天就是分流立法的開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/21.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/22.wav",
        "text": "增加第2項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/23.wav",
        "text": "由行政院長提名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/24.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/25.wav",
        "text": "我本來要設計送到立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/26.wav",
        "text": "行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/27.wav",
        "text": "但是立法委員原住民立委很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/28.wav",
        "text": "啊所以交給原住民的民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/29.wav",
        "text": "從區長以上的行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/30.wav",
        "text": "跟公平會NCC中選會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/31.wav",
        "text": "送到立法院行使同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/32.wav",
        "text": "大法官也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/33.wav",
        "text": "考試委員也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/34.wav",
        "text": "監察委員也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/35.wav",
        "text": "這有什麼違反憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/36.wav",
        "text": "沒有違反憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/37.wav",
        "text": "過去的蒙藏委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/38.wav",
        "text": "就是由政務委員來兼任啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/39.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/40.wav",
        "text": "一直到106年9月15號以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/41.wav",
        "text": "的蒙藏委員會都是由政務委員兼任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/42.wav",
        "text": "現在行政院組織法第4條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/43.wav",
        "text": "第5條規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/44.wav",
        "text": "行政院置政務委員七人至九人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/45.wav",
        "text": "特任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/46.wav",
        "text": "政務委員得兼任前條委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/47.wav",
        "text": "之主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/48.wav",
        "text": "那個理由都不是理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/49.wav",
        "text": "國家通訊傳播委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/50.wav",
        "text": "主任委員的任期就是四年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/51.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/52.wav",
        "text": "寫的時候要謹慎一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/53.wav",
        "text": "喔包括人事行政總處也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/54.wav",
        "text": "要謹慎一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/55.wav",
        "text": "本席是老公務員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/56.wav",
        "text": "也是學法律的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/57.wav",
        "text": "過去很多組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/58.wav",
        "text": "尤其是原民會的組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/59.wav",
        "text": "都是我在推動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/60.wav",
        "text": "\n好我們看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/61.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要有分山原平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/62.wav",
        "text": "過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/63.wav",
        "text": "從民國85年6月1號開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/64.wav",
        "text": "原民會成立的歷任主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/65.wav",
        "text": "從華加志"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/66.wav",
        "text": "尤哈尼．伊斯卡卡夫特是山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/67.wav",
        "text": "任期都很短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/68.wav",
        "text": "陳建年主委是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/69.wav",
        "text": "任期比較長一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/70.wav",
        "text": "瓦歷斯．貝林是山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/71.wav",
        "text": "接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/72.wav",
        "text": "路兒主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/73.wav",
        "text": "他當了9年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/74.wav",
        "text": "孫大川是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/75.wav",
        "text": "林江義是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/76.wav",
        "text": "現在的曾智勇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/77.wav",
        "text": "真的不同啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/78.wav",
        "text": "很多的地方不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/79.wav",
        "text": "鍾副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/80.wav",
        "text": "當副局長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/81.wav",
        "text": "當副主委的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/82.wav",
        "text": "我跑遍全臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/83.wav",
        "text": "啦包括都會區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/84.wav",
        "text": "你就做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/85.wav",
        "text": "現在的主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/86.wav",
        "text": "更做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/87.wav",
        "text": "為什麼因為他們也很忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/88.wav",
        "text": "常常要來立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/89.wav",
        "text": "我也瞭解啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/90.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/91.wav",
        "text": "主委是山原還是平原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/92.wav",
        "text": "絕對有差別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/93.wav",
        "text": "不然你回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/94.wav",
        "text": "夷將主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/95.wav",
        "text": "去山地鄉到底有幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/96.wav",
        "text": "有沒有深入到每一個部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/97.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/98.wav",
        "text": "啦所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/99.wav",
        "text": "有它的必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/100.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/101.wav",
        "text": "本席不會隨便提啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/102.wav",
        "text": "我們看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/103.wav",
        "text": "馬英九時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/104.wav",
        "text": "103年12月18號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/105.wav",
        "text": "提出原住民族自治暫行條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/106.wav",
        "text": "原住民族自治政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/107.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/108.wav",
        "text": "設原住民族自治政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/109.wav",
        "text": "它的主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/110.wav",
        "text": "由各族委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/111.wav",
        "text": "而這些委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/112.wav",
        "text": "也就是由各族群去推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/113.wav",
        "text": "舉這個是由下而上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/114.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/115.wav",
        "text": "置主席一人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/116.wav",
        "text": "綜理自治區政業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/117.wav",
        "text": "由委員推舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/118.wav",
        "text": "提請行政院院長聘任之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/119.wav",
        "text": "不是沒有過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/120.wav",
        "text": "啊院會通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/121.wav",
        "text": "因為人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/122.wav",
        "text": "處長比較年輕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/123.wav",
        "text": "過去沒有看到這個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/124.wav",
        "text": "鍾副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/125.wav",
        "text": "你應該有看過這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/126.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/127.wav",
        "text": "這個送到立法院了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/128.wav",
        "text": "很可惜沒有三讀通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/129.wav",
        "text": "啊所以這個部分沒有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/130.wav",
        "text": "理由我就不講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/131.wav",
        "text": "後來我們有把它改成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/132.wav",
        "text": "推動條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/133.wav",
        "text": "族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/134.wav",
        "text": "寫得那麼長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/135.wav",
        "text": "理由都很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/136.wav",
        "text": "但是過去八年來都沒有這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/137.wav",
        "text": "本席擔任常務副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/138.wav",
        "text": "擔任處長的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/139.wav",
        "text": "都符合你寫的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/140.wav",
        "text": "但是過去八年來都沒有做啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/141.wav",
        "text": "原住民族自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/142.wav",
        "text": "族群委員有沒有跟主委說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/143.wav",
        "text": "一定要提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/144.wav",
        "text": "為什麼八年沒有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/145.wav",
        "text": "土海法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/146.wav",
        "text": "他們要代表各族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/147.wav",
        "text": "所以土海法要送啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/148.wav",
        "text": "原民會連送都沒有送到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/149.wav",
        "text": "這是唯一的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/150.wav",
        "text": "所以不得不修啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/151.wav",
        "text": "因為你根本就沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/152.wav",
        "text": "我也去了解過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/153.wav",
        "text": "或相關的這些法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/154.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/155.wav",
        "text": "每天在鄉下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/156.wav",
        "text": "鍾副主委你不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/157.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/158.wav",
        "text": "其實我們的各族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/159.wav",
        "text": "都有分別就各處室的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/160.wav",
        "text": "一些工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/161.wav",
        "text": "在地方做一些考察會勘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/162.wav",
        "text": "或者參與各項會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/163.wav",
        "text": "他們都代表主任委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/164.wav",
        "text": "那是其中一項而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/165.wav",
        "text": "這不應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/166.wav",
        "text": "不應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/167.wav",
        "text": "後面還有很多委員要提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/168.wav",
        "text": "我要特別講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/169.wav",
        "text": "有一個案子比較急迫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/170.wav",
        "text": "0403地震你回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/171.wav",
        "text": "趕快去查一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/172.wav",
        "text": "然後協調行政院趕快核定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/173.wav",
        "text": "就是原民會有提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/174.wav",
        "text": "0403震災花蓮部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/175.wav",
        "text": "旅遊振興計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/176.wav",
        "text": "到現在行政院還沒有核定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/177.wav",
        "text": "趕快協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/178.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/179.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/180.wav",
        "text": "謝謝鄭委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/181.wav",
        "text": "\n下一位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154364/182.wav",
        "text": "請牛煦庭委員進行詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/2.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/3.wav",
        "text": "未來農業缺工的一個利器之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/4.wav",
        "text": "在講農業缺工的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/5.wav",
        "text": "無人機精準農業與農噴應用元年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/6.wav",
        "text": "2019年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/7.wav",
        "text": "但是使用無人機噴藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/8.wav",
        "text": "事實上也是有一些狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/9.wav",
        "text": "這個狀況就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/10.wav",
        "text": "或是噴到人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/11.wav",
        "text": "因為它不像農民背農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/12.wav",
        "text": "準確現在用無人機去噴藥的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/13.wav",
        "text": "萬一噴到隔壁的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/14.wav",
        "text": "我們分兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/15.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/16.wav",
        "text": "無人機噴藥時如果噴到別人的田"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/17.wav",
        "text": "是否需要負賠償責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/18.wav",
        "text": "這個牽涉到舉證的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/19.wav",
        "text": "通常不會發生這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/20.wav",
        "text": "就要靠後端的這些去查證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/21.wav",
        "text": "如果查證屬實的話就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/22.wav",
        "text": "話就代表他違反了相關的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/23.wav",
        "text": "因為他必須取得相關證照才能飛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/24.wav",
        "text": "而且飛的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/25.wav",
        "text": "我們可以用這個方式去處罰他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/26.wav",
        "text": "但是對於他誤噴的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/27.wav",
        "text": "因為牽涉到舉證的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/28.wav",
        "text": "會比較困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/29.wav",
        "text": "舉證問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/30.wav",
        "text": "對雙證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/31.wav",
        "text": "雙證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/32.wav",
        "text": "一定要具有法人資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/33.wav",
        "text": "說很多農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/34.wav",
        "text": "但因為他是自然人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/35.wav",
        "text": "所以你們認為這個法人資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/36.wav",
        "text": "是必要性的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/37.wav",
        "text": "還是說這個可以去做個檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/38.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/39.wav",
        "text": "其實我們當初考量的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/40.wav",
        "text": "萬一有什麼問題時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/41.wav",
        "text": "保險部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/42.wav",
        "text": "然後也是一個過渡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/43.wav",
        "text": "就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/44.wav",
        "text": "我們希望在一開始的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/45.wav",
        "text": "有一個法人能夠讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/46.wav",
        "text": "有飛手的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/47.wav",
        "text": "只是一個加入的動作就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/48.wav",
        "text": "這樣未來在追蹤及管理方面會比較單純"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/49.wav",
        "text": "而不是由自然人去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/50.wav",
        "text": "當初的設計是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/51.wav",
        "text": "後續如果無人機越來越普遍的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/52.wav",
        "text": "我們也會考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/53.wav",
        "text": "資格比方說我是合作社"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/54.wav",
        "text": "呢合作社可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/55.wav",
        "text": "可以你要登記法人應該也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/56.wav",
        "text": "我用合作社來申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/57.wav",
        "text": "然後合作社裡面的飛手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/58.wav",
        "text": "只要他具有雙證照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/59.wav",
        "text": "他就可以使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/60.wav",
        "text": "對這個我們會重新通盤來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/61.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在的政策就是要推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/62.wav",
        "text": "一鄉鎮一個農事服務業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/63.wav",
        "text": "農事服務業裡有一個重要的部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/64.wav",
        "text": "無人機噴藥的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/65.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我們會配套的去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/66.wav",
        "text": "好如果有要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/67.wav",
        "text": "調整的時候是不是再跟我們辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/68.wav",
        "text": "會我們一定會去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/69.wav",
        "text": "那我們再回到今天的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/70.wav",
        "text": "缺工的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/71.wav",
        "text": "事實上農業是很特殊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/72.wav",
        "text": "部長你一定很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/73.wav",
        "text": "農業的缺工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/74.wav",
        "text": "是屬於季節性的缺工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/75.wav",
        "text": "成除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/76.wav",
        "text": "外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/77.wav",
        "text": "真正需要移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/78.wav",
        "text": "而真的符合的農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/79.wav",
        "text": "品項不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/80.wav",
        "text": "可能是畜牧業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/81.wav",
        "text": "或可能是蘭花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/82.wav",
        "text": "他們是一整年都有工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/83.wav",
        "text": "作要做可是一般的農業就是季節性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/84.wav",
        "text": "就是在大季的時候需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/85.wav",
        "text": "如果小季的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/86.wav",
        "text": "不需要移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/87.wav",
        "text": "所以對他來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/88.wav",
        "text": "額外的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/89.wav",
        "text": "所以變成說如果去找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/90.wav",
        "text": "合法的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/91.wav",
        "text": "成本會太高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/92.wav",
        "text": "大家都要找黑工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/93.wav",
        "text": "就變成說他在勞力的缺口上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/94.wav",
        "text": "所需要的反而是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/95.wav",
        "text": "類似這樣的逃逸外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/96.wav",
        "text": "部長你難道都沒有想過這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/97.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/98.wav",
        "text": "的確現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/99.wav",
        "text": "那種短時間季節性的缺工才是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/100.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/101.wav",
        "text": "做移工外展服務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/102.wav",
        "text": "現在可以跨區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/103.wav",
        "text": "的工作做完之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/104.wav",
        "text": "他可以跨區到其他的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/105.wav",
        "text": "工作如果這樣的話移工本身工作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/106.wav",
        "text": "時間不會有問題這種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/107.wav",
        "text": "也可以解決其他地區的缺工問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/108.wav",
        "text": "部長可是外展我們也推了四年多了吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/109.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/110.wav",
        "text": "可是你有沒有發現事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/111.wav",
        "text": "真正在用外展的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/112.wav",
        "text": "還是我剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/113.wav",
        "text": "可能是在畜牧業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/114.wav",
        "text": "就是比較集中型的產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/115.wav",
        "text": "他去用外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/116.wav",
        "text": "對農糧的應該也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/117.wav",
        "text": "像這種我剛剛講的季節性缺工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/118.wav",
        "text": "在用外展的要這樣媒合的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/119.wav",
        "text": "相對還是很困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/120.wav",
        "text": "部長所以我要具體建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/121.wav",
        "text": "請你們思考看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/122.wav",
        "text": "以農業來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/123.wav",
        "text": "農業可不可以因為其特殊性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/124.wav",
        "text": "然後我們讓外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/125.wav",
        "text": "是可以兼職的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/126.wav",
        "text": "目前外勞是不是只能做一份工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/127.wav",
        "text": "不管是哪一種外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/128.wav",
        "text": "可能是工廠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/129.wav",
        "text": "或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/130.wav",
        "text": "就是透過勞動契約去限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/131.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/132.wav",
        "text": "所以我們如果針對農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/133.wav",
        "text": "可以同意讓外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/134.wav",
        "text": "然後就是在做農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/135.wav",
        "text": "這樣你的問題都解決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/136.wav",
        "text": "部長你懂我的意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/137.wav",
        "text": "比方說我是在做家庭照顧的外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/138.wav",
        "text": "如果我在農業缺工的這段期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/139.wav",
        "text": "類似外展讓他們去登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/140.wav",
        "text": "讓他們兼職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/141.wav",
        "text": "不要說讓他去哪裡偷偷工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/142.wav",
        "text": "然後被抓到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/143.wav",
        "text": "你只要讓外勞可以兼職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/144.wav",
        "text": "可以在工作之餘去兼著做什麼工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/145.wav",
        "text": "就是單農業這一項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/146.wav",
        "text": "我們不要把他開放到其他的工業那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/147.wav",
        "text": "你只要讓他兼職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/148.wav",
        "text": "那些逃逸的都沒有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/149.wav",
        "text": "了他就乖乖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/150.wav",
        "text": "地做照顧做長照"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/151.wav",
        "text": "讓他去兼職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/152.wav",
        "text": "讓他去田裡幫忙除草"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/153.wav",
        "text": "我覺得你這個想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/154.wav",
        "text": "的確可以解決非常多的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/155.wav",
        "text": "但是這牽涉到勞動法規的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/156.wav",
        "text": "是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/157.wav",
        "text": "我們農業的特殊性要拿出來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/158.wav",
        "text": "就是說我們農業為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/159.wav",
        "text": "外勞是沒有辦法解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/160.wav",
        "text": "決就是目前的外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/161.wav",
        "text": "或者是我們現在開放移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/162.wav",
        "text": "可是這些移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/163.wav",
        "text": "進來以後他都會偷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/164.wav",
        "text": "然後後來你也看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/165.wav",
        "text": "事實上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/166.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都心照不宣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/167.wav",
        "text": "有很多農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/168.wav",
        "text": "找的那些外勞都是黑工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/169.wav",
        "text": "都是逃逸外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/170.wav",
        "text": "我們不能讓我們國家的逃逸外勞這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/171.wav",
        "text": "我們總是要解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/172.wav",
        "text": "嘛既然逃逸外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/173.wav",
        "text": "就是想要一份工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/174.wav",
        "text": "我們就從根本處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/175.wav",
        "text": "讓他們不要逃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/176.wav",
        "text": "讓他去今"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/177.wav",
        "text": "今天勞動部也有派人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/178.wav",
        "text": "來我們會就這個訊息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/179.wav",
        "text": "在後續再跟勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/180.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/181.wav",
        "text": "稍微講一下請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/182.wav",
        "text": "主席再給我30秒就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/183.wav",
        "text": "了剛剛我講的你都有聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/184.wav",
        "text": "是謝謝委員的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/185.wav",
        "text": "關於這個部分在就業服務法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/186.wav",
        "text": "目前針對這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/187.wav",
        "text": "藍領的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/188.wav",
        "text": "我們是考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/189.wav",
        "text": "他有生活管理責任的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/190.wav",
        "text": "所以目前是一個移工一個雇主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/191.wav",
        "text": "那這個部分如果要放寬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/192.wav",
        "text": "讓他可以兼職的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/193.wav",
        "text": "就會衍生他在兼職的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/194.wav",
        "text": "會有他的生活管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/195.wav",
        "text": "包括職災的發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/196.wav",
        "text": "或是逃逸的責任的歸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/197.wav",
        "text": "這個都是細部問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/198.wav",
        "text": "對所以那個部分可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/199.wav",
        "text": "這個問題就是拿出來檢討就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/200.wav",
        "text": "就是讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/201.wav",
        "text": "由第二個雇主來負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/202.wav",
        "text": "這個部分可能還需要再研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/203.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我是覺得你們要去研議這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/204.wav",
        "text": "部分第一你一定要解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/205.wav",
        "text": "不要讓外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/206.wav",
        "text": "都是偷跑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/207.wav",
        "text": "都是這些逃逸外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/208.wav",
        "text": "這第二個你一定要解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/209.wav",
        "text": "農業這種季節性缺工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/210.wav",
        "text": "所以你們勞動部一定要去想辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154365/211.wav",
        "text": "我們會跨部會一起來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/0.wav",
        "text": "副主委副主委我要繼續追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/1.wav",
        "text": "後來我們好不容易在6月25號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/2.wav",
        "text": "收到你們來的合宜住宅規劃建議案的評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/3.wav",
        "text": "憑良心講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/4.wav",
        "text": "因為你這份報告裡面花了大部分的篇幅去講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/5.wav",
        "text": "那我在質詢的時候好幾次的質詢我是沒有講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/6.wav",
        "text": "我們提這個概念的用意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/7.wav",
        "text": "所以我有沒有講說一定要合宜住宅不可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/8.wav",
        "text": "有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/9.wav",
        "text": "也倒不一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/10.wav",
        "text": "倒也沒有嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/11.wav",
        "text": "那你花這麼多篇幅去講這個選項不可行幹什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/12.wav",
        "text": "因為他們董事會有一個董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/13.wav",
        "text": "一直往這邊去建議基金會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/14.wav",
        "text": "是不是朝合宜住宅去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/15.wav",
        "text": "那是他的建議案你跟他溝通沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/16.wav",
        "text": "但是我的質詢是要求你解決住宿跟通勤的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/17.wav",
        "text": "降低因為搬家造成的離職問題嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/18.wav",
        "text": "那你要針對我的問題來處理啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/19.wav",
        "text": "可能業務單位在處理這個部分有一些誤解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/20.wav",
        "text": "又有誤解了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/21.wav",
        "text": "搞這麼久的時間還有這麼多誤解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/22.wav",
        "text": "那不是很奇怪嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/23.wav",
        "text": "因為當時通知我們是說針對合宜住宅這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/24.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以做一個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/25.wav",
        "text": "然後你就只針對這個說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/26.wav",
        "text": "那我前面三次質詢都白講了就對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/27.wav",
        "text": "沒有那個部分也都還在進行中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/28.wav",
        "text": "那請問現在有其他案子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/29.wav",
        "text": "並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/30.wav",
        "text": "並沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/31.wav",
        "text": "那什麼叫做還在進行中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/32.wav",
        "text": "就是還在討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/33.wav",
        "text": "因為目前原文會的基金會跟工會之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/34.wav",
        "text": "很多東西都必須要有一些共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/35.wav",
        "text": "好第一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/36.wav",
        "text": "你在那邊花很多篇幅去講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/37.wav",
        "text": "合宜住宅不可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/38.wav",
        "text": "尤其是你講取得土地很困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/39.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/40.wav",
        "text": "但是我要問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/41.wav",
        "text": "取得土地真的有這麼困難嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/42.wav",
        "text": "除了移轉或者是價購之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/43.wav",
        "text": "難道沒有別的方法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/44.wav",
        "text": "我們的目的如果是要有一個完整的員工宿舍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/45.wav",
        "text": "讓你的員工有個安居的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/46.wav",
        "text": "降低通勤成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/47.wav",
        "text": "你租一塊土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/48.wav",
        "text": "做員工宿舍可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/49.wav",
        "text": "你租既有的閒置空間可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/50.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼你都沒有寫在報告裡面呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/51.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/52.wav",
        "text": "所以可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/53.wav",
        "text": "一直對合宜住宅這個部分來做論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/54.wav",
        "text": "你如果可以成就這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/55.wav",
        "text": "你多花點時間論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/56.wav",
        "text": "我也很高興啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/57.wav",
        "text": "你寫了一大堆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/58.wav",
        "text": "然後結論是不能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/59.wav",
        "text": "那不是推責任是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/60.wav",
        "text": "我這樣跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/61.wav",
        "text": "你現在要處理土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/62.wav",
        "text": "你講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/63.wav",
        "text": "不就處理完了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/64.wav",
        "text": "該租用或該取得不就有空間了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/65.wav",
        "text": "怎麼可能我們國家的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/66.wav",
        "text": "會限制你去做這個事情呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/67.wav",
        "text": "那你們有往這個方向想過嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/68.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/69.wav",
        "text": "那怎麼辦呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/70.wav",
        "text": "我更生氣的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/71.wav",
        "text": "我看到你資料裡面寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/72.wav",
        "text": "解決這些員工的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/73.wav",
        "text": "總共的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/74.wav",
        "text": "我唸給你聽這是你的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/75.wav",
        "text": "經原文會與工會研議結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/76.wav",
        "text": "交通補助712萬8千"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/77.wav",
        "text": "搬遷補助389萬4千"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/78.wav",
        "text": "托育補助90萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/79.wav",
        "text": "非自願離職988萬8千"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/80.wav",
        "text": "這些數字加起來大概就2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/81.wav",
        "text": "我請問你你搬遷的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/82.wav",
        "text": "有多少員工受到影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/83.wav",
        "text": "他們大概有三百零多位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/84.wav",
        "text": "三百零多位員工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/85.wav",
        "text": "因為很多人要離職對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/86.wav",
        "text": "然後你就編這兩千多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/87.wav",
        "text": "你就打發這群人了是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/88.wav",
        "text": "你就是這樣寫的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/89.wav",
        "text": "要處理這些事情他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/90.wav",
        "text": "都是原住民的弟兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/91.wav",
        "text": "難得有一個很好的工作機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/92.wav",
        "text": "在裡面可以推動原住民的文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/93.wav",
        "text": "推動原住民的影視相關工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/94.wav",
        "text": "你不用善待這些人才嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/95.wav",
        "text": "你們作為主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/96.wav",
        "text": "不用善待這群人才嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/97.wav",
        "text": "這一定要善待他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/98.wav",
        "text": "因為也不容易培養到這樣一個程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/99.wav",
        "text": "是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/100.wav",
        "text": "一他們都離職了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/101.wav",
        "text": "你就把九百零多萬離職資遣費發出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/102.wav",
        "text": "這件事就算了是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/103.wav",
        "text": "那個是最下下策了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/104.wav",
        "text": "那就對了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/105.wav",
        "text": "為什麼只有兩千多萬呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/106.wav",
        "text": "你們沒有誠意是什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/107.wav",
        "text": "今天不是說二十個人十個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/108.wav",
        "text": "大家個別協商就可以處理了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/109.wav",
        "text": "三百零多個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/110.wav",
        "text": "是很重要的勞動問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/111.wav",
        "text": "沒錯沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/112.wav",
        "text": "我們政府難道能夠打壓基層勞工嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/113.wav",
        "text": "尤其是原住民弟兄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/114.wav",
        "text": "很奇怪吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/115.wav",
        "text": "那還有沒有別的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/116.wav",
        "text": "我們自己有一些誤解的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/117.wav",
        "text": "一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/118.wav",
        "text": "工會跟基金會之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/119.wav",
        "text": "我們會協助他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/120.wav",
        "text": "海基會辦公室也是租的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/121.wav",
        "text": "國防部國家安全研究院辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/122.wav",
        "text": "也是租的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/123.wav",
        "text": "你們那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/124.wav",
        "text": "我們曾經盤點過桃園的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/125.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣也會有一些國有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/126.wav",
        "text": "你沒有辦法價購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/127.wav",
        "text": "我理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/128.wav",
        "text": "原民會要編預算很困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/129.wav",
        "text": "但你可以租賃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/130.wav",
        "text": "你可以長租"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/131.wav",
        "text": "可以交換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/132.wav",
        "text": "有很多方式可以處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/133.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/134.wav",
        "text": "我也講你講合宜住宅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/135.wav",
        "text": "不是那麼適合現在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/136.wav",
        "text": "我也可以理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/137.wav",
        "text": "啊我的目標就是給他們一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/138.wav",
        "text": "漂亮亮亮且距離很近的員工宿舍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/139.wav",
        "text": "這有困難嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/140.wav",
        "text": "難道不應該努力一下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/141.wav",
        "text": "有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/142.wav",
        "text": "那你什麼時候可以提出新的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/143.wav",
        "text": "這份我們就作廢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/144.wav",
        "text": "丟垃圾桶可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/145.wav",
        "text": "因為這份實在很荒唐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/146.wav",
        "text": "委員給我一個月好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/147.wav",
        "text": "再給你一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/148.wav",
        "text": "好我已經連續四次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/149.wav",
        "text": "跟你們原民會的質詢都講這一題了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/150.wav",
        "text": "那我就再給你一個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/151.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道委員當時是在5月初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/152.wav",
        "text": "還是4月底有提出這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/153.wav",
        "text": "再給你多一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/154.wav",
        "text": "解決這三百零多人的通勤跟居住問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/155.wav",
        "text": "給他們一個漂亮的員工宿舍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/156.wav",
        "text": "做政府機關的好示範可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/157.wav",
        "text": "你說可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154366/158.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席在場的委員先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/1.wav",
        "text": "列席的政府機關首長及官員會場工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/2.wav",
        "text": "我們有請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/3.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/4.wav",
        "text": "還有農輔司的陳司長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/5.wav",
        "text": "農糧署的蘇代理署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/6.wav",
        "text": "部長好司長好署長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/7.wav",
        "text": "部長在過去缺蛋的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/8.wav",
        "text": "改用其他蛋白質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/9.wav",
        "text": "那現在我們蛋很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/10.wav",
        "text": "可不可以協調國防部請我們國軍弟兄多吃蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/11.wav",
        "text": "我們已經有發文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/12.wav",
        "text": "然後一天吃兩個蛋也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/13.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣子而膽固醇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/14.wav",
        "text": "現在是蛋太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/15.wav",
        "text": "第二個問題可能請署長或司長想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/16.wav",
        "text": "那一天有跟你請教檸檬的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/17.wav",
        "text": "你也很感心有請副署長去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/18.wav",
        "text": "那我現在發現檸檬的問題主要是一個產銷的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/19.wav",
        "text": "所以它的用藥殘留很嚴格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/20.wav",
        "text": "我知道互相對於彼此用藥最關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/21.wav",
        "text": "是一臺集乳車要開到好幾個牧場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/22.wav",
        "text": "所以只要有一個牧場的牛生病打了抗生素被驗出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/23.wav",
        "text": "所有的牧場都會遭殃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/24.wav",
        "text": "所以他們互相彼此之間會顧慮到別人的乳品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/25.wav",
        "text": "不要被污染他們對自己牛隻的健康管理很重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/26.wav",
        "text": "不會害到別人你聽得懂我的意思嗎就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/27.wav",
        "text": "是像檸檬的這個事情因為這是要榨汁的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/28.wav",
        "text": "如果有一區的檸檬施用農藥還沒有到期就採收了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/29.wav",
        "text": "跟別人的檸檬混在一起會造成未來被品牌廠拒絕使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/30.wav",
        "text": "所以對這個部分可不可以多加強宣導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/31.wav",
        "text": "我想除了加強宣導我們也要務實做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/32.wav",
        "text": "因為在採收的時候每一個果園如果噴藥不一致的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/33.wav",
        "text": "就會有非常大的問題所以我們會推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/34.wav",
        "text": "好很好這是附帶一問的我要請教一下你是不是農家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/35.wav",
        "text": "我你應該不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/36.wav",
        "text": "我也不是但是我學生時代有同學是農家子弟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/37.wav",
        "text": "他們跟我不一樣他們不喜歡放暑假你知道是什麼原因嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/38.wav",
        "text": "要去幫忙家務農務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/39.wav",
        "text": "有高職的建教合作只有暑假才去上工嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/40.wav",
        "text": "是整個工廠的工班跟他們的學期分開來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/41.wav",
        "text": "在工廠不忙的時候學校幫他們安排課程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/42.wav",
        "text": "我們從業人口要跌破50萬怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/43.wav",
        "text": "是不是你們就說要移工是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/44.wav",
        "text": "基本上我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/45.wav",
        "text": "從主力的農家來講他應該還有機會少一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/46.wav",
        "text": "更精準所以不是量的問題而是質的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/47.wav",
        "text": "我同意好我們來看剛才都問農業的移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/48.wav",
        "text": "你說有自行聘僱跟外展服務你知道為什麼外展服務不好用嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/49.wav",
        "text": "啊為什麼不好用大概在外展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/50.wav",
        "text": "因為他我農會要有很多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/51.wav",
        "text": "如果增加很多他就不好調動這裡缺兩個缺三個喬不平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/52.wav",
        "text": "大概農閒不會讓他們閒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/53.wav",
        "text": "因為閒了會增加它的成本負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/54.wav",
        "text": "大家產期產值項目都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/55.wav",
        "text": "就是這個問題部長了解了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/56.wav",
        "text": "所以我們再看一看你知道教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/57.wav",
        "text": "過去有建教合作現在有產學攜手嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/58.wav",
        "text": "這個我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/59.wav",
        "text": "好你知道有沒有辦新南向的合作班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/60.wav",
        "text": "產學合作班有這個也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/61.wav",
        "text": "在印尼菲律賓的部分成效非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/62.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講一樣遇到跟外展的問題一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/63.wav",
        "text": "學期是固定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/64.wav",
        "text": "所以他們要利用上課之餘去實習"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/65.wav",
        "text": "不見得農家好用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/66.wav",
        "text": "因為養牛的在那邊做工作是每天的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/67.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在是讓你回憶一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/68.wav",
        "text": "以前高職的建教合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/69.wav",
        "text": "如果我們從高職現在有個三加四"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/70.wav",
        "text": "有沒有聽過三加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/71.wav",
        "text": "他16歲就來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/72.wav",
        "text": "可以參加這種的在他讀書的時候類似建教合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/73.wav",
        "text": "了解好所以我們希望你思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/74.wav",
        "text": "不要只從外籍移工來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/75.wav",
        "text": "不要讓勞動部覺得很麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/76.wav",
        "text": "廠工不是東廠的那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/77.wav",
        "text": "個廠公而是工廠的廠工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/78.wav",
        "text": "他們其實都是超時工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/79.wav",
        "text": "早上5點去弄蛋做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/80.wav",
        "text": "8點去上班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/81.wav",
        "text": "5點下班以後再來偷做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/82.wav",
        "text": "其實勞動部不會同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/83.wav",
        "text": "雖然他們很想要賺錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/84.wav",
        "text": "他花67年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/85.wav",
        "text": "學校安排他的學習農忙下田農閒上課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/86.wav",
        "text": "你覺得可不可以考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/87.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可以考慮他們在暑假的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/88.wav",
        "text": "因為是專班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/89.wav",
        "text": "我覺得可以考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/90.wav",
        "text": "是的因為他們從馬來西亞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/91.wav",
        "text": "從印尼他們很多人來學習就是要回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/92.wav",
        "text": "的所以這件事情我要請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/93.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這要去談細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/94.wav",
        "text": "然後有學校願意把它的課程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/95.wav",
        "text": "跟農忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/96.wav",
        "text": "你們再詳實跟委員來說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154367/97.wav",
        "text": "我一定會跟他們去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/0.wav",
        "text": "你有公務車嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/1.wav",
        "text": "有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/2.wav",
        "text": "你會用公務車載你的家人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/3.wav",
        "text": "太太小孩去賞櫻花嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/4.wav",
        "text": "如果有在一起的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/5.wav",
        "text": "你會不會讓你的公務車載你的家人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/6.wav",
        "text": "或是爸爸媽媽親戚朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/7.wav",
        "text": "載去賞櫻花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/8.wav",
        "text": "賞櫻花是沒有這個經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/9.wav",
        "text": "那會不會載他們去旅遊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/10.wav",
        "text": "也沒有這個經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/11.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/12.wav",
        "text": "嘛那你覺得俞大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/13.wav",
        "text": "在美國用公務車載太太"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/14.wav",
        "text": "去賞櫻花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/15.wav",
        "text": "我們所有大使都是這樣做的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/16.wav",
        "text": "他本身有講有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/17.wav",
        "text": "因為在華府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/18.wav",
        "text": "當然櫻花季節是一個什麼樣的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/19.wav",
        "text": "那我們也會進一步瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/20.wav",
        "text": "這是不是慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/21.wav",
        "text": "應該不是慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/22.wav",
        "text": "但是當然因為座車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/23.wav",
        "text": "其實在臺灣已經比較有規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/24.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/25.wav",
        "text": "就是會有些非公務行程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/26.wav",
        "text": "可能會油錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/27.wav",
        "text": "我還沒講到油錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/28.wav",
        "text": "我講的是家人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/29.wav",
        "text": "我也曾有公務車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/30.wav",
        "text": "但至少我的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/31.wav",
        "text": "或是那時候馬政府的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/32.wav",
        "text": "基本上我的家人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/33.wav",
        "text": "是從沒上過那個公務車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/34.wav",
        "text": "是一定是以公務為原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/35.wav",
        "text": "那我要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/36.wav",
        "text": "說難道你沒坐過公務車嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/37.wav",
        "text": "順便載一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/38.wav",
        "text": "這是公務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/39.wav",
        "text": "耶順便載一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/40.wav",
        "text": "難道你沒有做過這種事嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/41.wav",
        "text": "順便把家人載一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/42.wav",
        "text": "你是問我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/43.wav",
        "text": "還是問他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/44.wav",
        "text": "反問記者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/45.wav",
        "text": "啊說你沒有坐過公務車嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/46.wav",
        "text": "順便把你送回家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/47.wav",
        "text": "意思是順便把家人送回家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/48.wav",
        "text": "也沒什麼了不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/49.wav",
        "text": "在一些判斷上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/50.wav",
        "text": "他自己要決定也要負責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/51.wav",
        "text": "那當然我們每一個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/52.wav",
        "text": "就是要遵守一條規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/53.wav",
        "text": "基本上我整理一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/54.wav",
        "text": "我們駐外人員的慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/55.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/56.wav",
        "text": "帶家人去賞櫻花"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/57.wav",
        "text": "然後順便載一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/58.wav",
        "text": "是慣例嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/59.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/60.wav",
        "text": "會違反慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/61.wav",
        "text": "這個要由他來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/62.wav",
        "text": "但因為在華府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/63.wav",
        "text": "府他公務車的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/64.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有這個行程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/65.wav",
        "text": "外交及國防委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/66.wav",
        "text": "是認為不需要召回大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/67.wav",
        "text": "有另外的不同看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/68.wav",
        "text": "當然尊重外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/69.wav",
        "text": "及國防委員會的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/70.wav",
        "text": "舉個例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/71.wav",
        "text": "不知道部長認不認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/72.wav",
        "text": "因為至少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/73.wav",
        "text": "外交工作大概有三個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/74.wav",
        "text": "重要的支柱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/75.wav",
        "text": "還有一個是國安會秘書長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/76.wav",
        "text": "另外就是駐美大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/77.wav",
        "text": "以我們的外交工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/78.wav",
        "text": "最重要的就是這個鐵三角"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/79.wav",
        "text": "我不知道你認不認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/80.wav",
        "text": "這三個角色都很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/81.wav",
        "text": "非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/82.wav",
        "text": "和公信力是非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/83.wav",
        "text": "請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/84.wav",
        "text": "您應該是賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/85.wav",
        "text": "屬意的外交部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/86.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/87.wav",
        "text": "當然是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/88.wav",
        "text": "而且他是新總統上任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/89.wav",
        "text": "你是陪他一起上任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/90.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/91.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/92.wav",
        "text": "吳釗燮是他任命的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/93.wav",
        "text": "也是陪他一起上任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/94.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/95.wav",
        "text": "他上來多久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/96.wav",
        "text": "因為我們駐外的大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/97.wav",
        "text": "基本上都是延續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/98.wav",
        "text": "那請問他做多久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/99.wav",
        "text": "大概半年去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/100.wav",
        "text": "我直接跟部長預言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/101.wav",
        "text": "因為就我最近觀察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/102.wav",
        "text": "的用人模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/103.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/104.wav",
        "text": "有的人講陰謀論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/105.wav",
        "text": "包括裡面所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/106.wav",
        "text": "當然有些部分看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/107.wav",
        "text": "是澄清部長也認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/108.wav",
        "text": "有不正確的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/109.wav",
        "text": "但是也有正確的地方嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/110.wav",
        "text": "對就是數字有些有出入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/111.wav",
        "text": "但有些項目社會上大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/112.wav",
        "text": "至少剛剛講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/113.wav",
        "text": "的賞櫻花顯然就是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/114.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/115.wav",
        "text": "不過我跟委員講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/116.wav",
        "text": "的太太也兼具"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/117.wav",
        "text": "一部分外交的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/118.wav",
        "text": "當然沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/119.wav",
        "text": "但是這個行程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/120.wav",
        "text": "到底是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/121.wav",
        "text": "當然他也有說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/122.wav",
        "text": "但是是什麼情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/123.wav",
        "text": "我的預言還沒講完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/124.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們的大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/125.wav",
        "text": "今天會有這麼大的風波"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/126.wav",
        "text": "在後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/127.wav",
        "text": "當然我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/128.wav",
        "text": "有些人事運作的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/129.wav",
        "text": "依照賴清德總統的用人的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/130.wav",
        "text": "半年內我覺得這大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/131.wav",
        "text": "恐怕就未必能保住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/132.wav",
        "text": "我們就來看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/133.wav",
        "text": "半年內他會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/134.wav",
        "text": "駐美大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/135.wav",
        "text": "其實是總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/136.wav",
        "text": "的外交三支柱之一是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/137.wav",
        "text": "非常重要的一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/138.wav",
        "text": "真的是想要有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/139.wav",
        "text": "我覺得其實總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/140.wav",
        "text": "就直接表達意志就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/141.wav",
        "text": "有些時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/142.wav",
        "text": "外交人員在前線工作上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/143.wav",
        "text": "當然外面有很多揣測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/144.wav",
        "text": "希望部長能夠參考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/145.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/146.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/147.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154368/148.wav",
        "text": "接下來請洪申翰委員上台質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/0.wav",
        "text": "請副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/1.wav",
        "text": "麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/2.wav",
        "text": "今天來看我們幾個修法的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/3.wav",
        "text": "我謝謝鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/4.wav",
        "text": "我覺得多討論有利於我們更瞭解原民的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/5.wav",
        "text": "也更瞭解提案委員的初衷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/6.wav",
        "text": "我謝謝鄭天財委員給我很多的指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/7.wav",
        "text": "但當我看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/8.wav",
        "text": "不管是鄭天財委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/9.wav",
        "text": "或是高金素梅委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/10.wav",
        "text": "針對原住民族委員會組織法的一些任用的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/11.wav",
        "text": "我個人粗淺的判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/12.wav",
        "text": "還是認為它涉及侵害憲法規定的人事任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/13.wav",
        "text": "也就是立法侵害行政權的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/14.wav",
        "text": "我們都支持原民政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/15.wav",
        "text": "也支持讓原民的各項照顧的福利措施更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/16.wav",
        "text": "但是會不會因此又開創了一個違憲的惡例呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/17.wav",
        "text": "我們應當要深思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/18.wav",
        "text": "\n針對今天的修法提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/19.wav",
        "text": "如果依委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/20.wav",
        "text": "未來強制要求原住民族委員會的主委要兼任政務委員的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/21.wav",
        "text": "那恐怕涉及影響行政權的人事任命權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/22.wav",
        "text": "我認為在憲法的分際上是值得商榷的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/23.wav",
        "text": "要讓主委是由山地原住民平地原住民來輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/24.wav",
        "text": "我個人也會粗淺的認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/25.wav",
        "text": "會不會是走回頭路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/26.wav",
        "text": "也可能去戕害了現在原住民族16族的主體性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/27.wav",
        "text": "這是我的質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/28.wav",
        "text": "主委由審查會來行使同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/29.wav",
        "text": "甚至創設了從來沒有見過的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/30.wav",
        "text": "以及鄉鎮市長來審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/31.wav",
        "text": "這對於中央地方的權責會有所混淆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/32.wav",
        "text": "因為史上未見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/33.wav",
        "text": "\n基於這三點理由就教於副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/34.wav",
        "text": "我的這些分析你們會裡的立場是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/35.wav",
        "text": "就剛剛委員的分析"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/36.wav",
        "text": "我們是非常的認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/37.wav",
        "text": "因為就如同我們所寫的報告一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/38.wav",
        "text": "這個也涉及到憲法第56條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/39.wav",
        "text": "由行政院院長提名總統任命相關部會的首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/40.wav",
        "text": "而且山原平原這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/41.wav",
        "text": "本來就是以前統治者為了管理方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/42.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/43.wav",
        "text": "不要再落入過去的框架"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/44.wav",
        "text": "對而且也都有一種聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/45.wav",
        "text": "回到民族的主體性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/46.wav",
        "text": "由各族來看各族的相關事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/47.wav",
        "text": "無給職這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/48.wav",
        "text": "我們也是認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/49.wav",
        "text": "我們的族群委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/50.wav",
        "text": "來到原民會參與相關的重要事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/51.wav",
        "text": "他也有很多的業務要進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/52.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/53.wav",
        "text": "當然特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/54.wav",
        "text": "審查同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/55.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/56.wav",
        "text": "謝謝副主委的回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/57.wav",
        "text": "我們看看行政院現行的二級委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/58.wav",
        "text": "主委的任命都是中央院長的權責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/59.wav",
        "text": "這非常的清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/60.wav",
        "text": "而目前有兼任政委的是國發會及國科會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/61.wav",
        "text": "但這兩個由政委來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/62.wav",
        "text": "主要是因為國發會處理了很多預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/63.wav",
        "text": "公建預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/64.wav",
        "text": "它要分配到各個部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/65.wav",
        "text": "國科會也基於它的科學政策導入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/66.wav",
        "text": "它過去從科技部再回到國科會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/67.wav",
        "text": "都經過非常縝密的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/68.wav",
        "text": "也就是國發會及國科會基於它的特殊屬性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/69.wav",
        "text": "由政委來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/70.wav",
        "text": "能夠協力各個部會都進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/71.wav",
        "text": "國家發展以及科技發展的重要政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/72.wav",
        "text": "所以它有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/73.wav",
        "text": "其他的委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/74.wav",
        "text": "陸委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/75.wav",
        "text": "金管會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/76.wav",
        "text": "海洋委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/77.wav",
        "text": "僑委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/78.wav",
        "text": "退輔會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/79.wav",
        "text": "還有原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/80.wav",
        "text": "客委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/81.wav",
        "text": "都沒有用政委來兼任的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/82.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/83.wav",
        "text": "從以前到現在都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/84.wav",
        "text": "當然我的辦公室有原民的助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/85.wav",
        "text": "我辦公室也有客家籍的助理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/86.wav",
        "text": "當我們在討論這個提案的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/87.wav",
        "text": "我們客家籍的助理就會說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/88.wav",
        "text": "那我們客委會主委要不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/89.wav",
        "text": "或者是依客家所謂的五種腔調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/90.wav",
        "text": "（四海大平安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/91.wav",
        "text": "）都來輪流擔任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/92.wav",
        "text": "不需要這樣為分而分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/93.wav",
        "text": "這是我個人的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/94.wav",
        "text": "而且是基於現在任命的一致性與需要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/95.wav",
        "text": "\n對於這幾個委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/96.wav",
        "text": "我表示尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/97.wav",
        "text": "但我認為值得大大的商榷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/98.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講到還有另外一個提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/99.wav",
        "text": "要把行政院原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/100.wav",
        "text": "（屬於行政院二級機關）的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/101.wav",
        "text": "從有給職改為無給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/102.wav",
        "text": "這些委員當然跟總統府原轉會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/103.wav",
        "text": "是任務編組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/104.wav",
        "text": "的屬性本質完全不同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/105.wav",
        "text": "平常是不是事務很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/106.wav",
        "text": "對事務很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/107.wav",
        "text": "除了參加會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/108.wav",
        "text": "還要包括會勘審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/109.wav",
        "text": "甚至參與部落的一些活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/110.wav",
        "text": "所以他不是只有諮詢的那一類委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/111.wav",
        "text": "他實質上是有政務推展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/112.wav",
        "text": "和去執行的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/113.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為應當維持他的有給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/114.wav",
        "text": "否則我看以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/115.wav",
        "text": "不會有人來做這個工作吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/116.wav",
        "text": "而且他還有蠻重要的角色就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/117.wav",
        "text": "原民會跟族人之間的溝通橋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/118.wav",
        "text": "以及他實質的工作必要性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/119.wav",
        "text": "維持有給職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/120.wav",
        "text": "是對於這些委員合理的應當有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/121.wav",
        "text": "在他的提案裡頭有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/122.wav",
        "text": "他主張讓原民會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/123.wav",
        "text": "由政委來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/124.wav",
        "text": "是因為現在族群歧視很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/125.wav",
        "text": "他認為讓政委來兼任原民會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/126.wav",
        "text": "可以有力的來反族群歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/127.wav",
        "text": "這是高金素梅委員在他的提案說明裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/128.wav",
        "text": "很重要的一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/129.wav",
        "text": "這就剛好是我長期在推動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/130.wav",
        "text": "但我認為反族群歧視我們需要一個專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/131.wav",
        "text": "而不是讓原民會的主委由政委來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/132.wav",
        "text": "就可以改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/133.wav",
        "text": "我們要去扭轉的族群間的平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/134.wav",
        "text": "欠缺法的一致性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/135.wav",
        "text": "所以我多次在這裡都提出以下的這些說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/136.wav",
        "text": "今天是就教於原民會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/137.wav",
        "text": "我們好幾個委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/138.wav",
        "text": "林德福委員鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/139.wav",
        "text": "伍麗華委員陳瑩委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/140.wav",
        "text": "都針對反族群歧視有提過法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/141.wav",
        "text": "而在陳建仁院長的指示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/142.wav",
        "text": "曾經一度說由內政部來主責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/143.wav",
        "text": "以反歧視族群平等來立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/144.wav",
        "text": "但是經過行政院的審視也包括本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/145.wav",
        "text": "一直在司法及法制委員會的倡議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/146.wav",
        "text": "我們認為臺灣如果要有一部反歧視法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/147.wav",
        "text": "或是平等法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/148.wav",
        "text": "都應當是方方面面統一規範所有的反歧視行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/149.wav",
        "text": "不只是族群的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/150.wav",
        "text": "包括性別的工作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/151.wav",
        "text": "或是身心障礙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/152.wav",
        "text": "應當擴大反歧視的面向來做一個專法的立法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/153.wav",
        "text": "以利於從法律面組織面及制度面來百花齊放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/154.wav",
        "text": "法務部是同意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/155.wav",
        "text": "之前的蔡清祥部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/156.wav",
        "text": "到現在的鄭部長都同意這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/157.wav",
        "text": "因此行政院已經從原本請內政部來做反歧視法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/158.wav",
        "text": "現在提升到由行政院人權及轉型正義處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/159.wav",
        "text": "提出了行政院版的反歧視法草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/160.wav",
        "text": "已經公告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/161.wav",
        "text": "對於受保護的特徵行為領域除外條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/162.wav",
        "text": "政府義務乃至於受歧視者的賠償及救濟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/163.wav",
        "text": "有一個專法的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/164.wav",
        "text": "期待未來會送到立法院來審議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/165.wav",
        "text": "我想請問在這一個法的討論裡頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/166.wav",
        "text": "原民會應該扮演了非常重要的角色吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/167.wav",
        "text": "有我們都有參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/168.wav",
        "text": "搭配剛剛高金素梅委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/169.wav",
        "text": "一定要由政務委員來兼任原民會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/170.wav",
        "text": "才能夠做到反歧視的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/171.wav",
        "text": "你覺得法比較有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/172.wav",
        "text": "還是這個人事任命比較有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/173.wav",
        "text": "當然制度法規很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/174.wav",
        "text": "是所以我希望從這個面向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/175.wav",
        "text": "也能夠說服我們高金委員的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/176.wav",
        "text": "真的要做到反族群歧視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/177.wav",
        "text": "我們需要一個專法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/178.wav",
        "text": "用法律來支持各項作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/179.wav",
        "text": "而不是只獨從原民會的主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/180.wav",
        "text": "用政委來兼任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/181.wav",
        "text": "能夠達到這個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/182.wav",
        "text": "我認為這是另外一個反向的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/183.wav",
        "text": "而且是一個更有力的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/184.wav",
        "text": "\n我分享我的觀點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/185.wav",
        "text": "我們持續來強化跟幾位提案委員的溝通好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/186.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝鄭天財委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/187.wav",
        "text": "他剛剛也同意我們今天進行詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/188.wav",
        "text": "來爭取更多的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/189.wav",
        "text": "讓朝野的委員來進行對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/190.wav",
        "text": "後續再進行逐條的審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/191.wav",
        "text": "也謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/192.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154369/193.wav",
        "text": "謝謝吳委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/0.wav",
        "text": "主席謝謝我想請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/2.wav",
        "text": "部長早安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/3.wav",
        "text": "你會累嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/4.wav",
        "text": "可以啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/5.wav",
        "text": "農業移工的問題我想大家都非常的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/6.wav",
        "text": "尤其我們雲林縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/7.wav",
        "text": "我每一次跟我們的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/8.wav",
        "text": "在對話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/9.wav",
        "text": "他們都告訴我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/10.wav",
        "text": "真的非常需要農業移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/11.wav",
        "text": "對於他們來說非常的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/12.wav",
        "text": "完全是緩不濟急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/13.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有這樣的狀況呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/14.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/15.wav",
        "text": "我想分為兩個層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/16.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/17.wav",
        "text": "但是它的核配比比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/18.wav",
        "text": "所以它沒有辦法請到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/19.wav",
        "text": "它想要請外籍移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/20.wav",
        "text": "但是它的規模沒到達那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/21.wav",
        "text": "所以我們根據這個狀況已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/22.wav",
        "text": "準備降低它的相關門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/23.wav",
        "text": "是部長我希望我們可以更彈性一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/24.wav",
        "text": "讓真正缺工的這些農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/25.wav",
        "text": "可以請到移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/26.wav",
        "text": "否則你可以看喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/27.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣的農業就業人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/28.wav",
        "text": "比10年前下降了七個百分點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/29.wav",
        "text": "七個百分點表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/30.wav",
        "text": "可能是務農賺不到錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/31.wav",
        "text": "或者是他們明明賺得到錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/32.wav",
        "text": "但工人不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/33.wav",
        "text": "導致他們沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/34.wav",
        "text": "順利的獲利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/35.wav",
        "text": "照顧農民就是農業部的天職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/36.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/37.wav",
        "text": "希望部長可以重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/38.wav",
        "text": "我們農業的人口一直下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/39.wav",
        "text": "這也代表著農業部越來越不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/40.wav",
        "text": "你知道嗎所以我也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/41.wav",
        "text": "我們可以好好照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/42.wav",
        "text": "讓農民賺得到錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/43.wav",
        "text": "那這樣子農民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/44.wav",
        "text": "人口數如果可以節節高升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/45.wav",
        "text": "就代表著農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/46.wav",
        "text": "做的工作非常成功"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/47.wav",
        "text": "臨時工的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/48.wav",
        "text": "占了84.3%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/49.wav",
        "text": "農業移工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/50.wav",
        "text": "都有額滿嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/51.wav",
        "text": "8,505人大概70%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/52.wav",
        "text": "我們估計到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/53.wav",
        "text": "就會額滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/54.wav",
        "text": "明明我們農業很缺工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/55.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這個員額沒有額滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/56.wav",
        "text": "為什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/57.wav",
        "text": "他們有的在申請程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/58.wav",
        "text": "現在農業移工的核配比率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/59.wav",
        "text": "還是非常的嚴苛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/60.wav",
        "text": "10人以下的農民或團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/61.wav",
        "text": "如果是10人以上的農民團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/62.wav",
        "text": "只能占全部的四成以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/63.wav",
        "text": "農民現在本勞都請不到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/64.wav",
        "text": "你設這個限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/65.wav",
        "text": "他如何一比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/66.wav",
        "text": "核配比的部分是勞動部的一個規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/67.wav",
        "text": "我們會積極去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/68.wav",
        "text": "包括我剛才說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/69.wav",
        "text": "我先處理10人以上的35%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/70.wav",
        "text": "我希望能夠朝向一比一的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/71.wav",
        "text": "鎖定一比一啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/72.wav",
        "text": "他本勞都請不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/73.wav",
        "text": "外勞更請不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/74.wav",
        "text": "你等於鎖死了他所有的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/75.wav",
        "text": "啊我是希望你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/76.wav",
        "text": "跟勞動部可以趕快妥善的一起研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/77.wav",
        "text": "一比一假設他只有一個農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/78.wav",
        "text": "對一個外勞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/79.wav",
        "text": "他們兩個溝通不良"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/80.wav",
        "text": "你有辦法成立類似小團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/81.wav",
        "text": "外勞團體他可以輪著去不同的農場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/82.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也是一個可行的辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/83.wav",
        "text": "對這就是我們以農會為核心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/84.wav",
        "text": "那個外展的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/85.wav",
        "text": "但是農會你也設定了很多的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/86.wav",
        "text": "讓他沒有辦法好好的去申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/87.wav",
        "text": "我提醒部長一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/88.wav",
        "text": "日本跟我們一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/89.wav",
        "text": "他們現在邁向高齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/90.wav",
        "text": "少子化的社會他們的農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/91.wav",
        "text": "跟我們一樣也缺工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/92.wav",
        "text": "所以他們現在要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/93.wav",
        "text": "鬆綁外籍移工的法規限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/94.wav",
        "text": "假設他們領到日本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/95.wav",
        "text": "特定技能勞工第二類的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/96.wav",
        "text": "就可以申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/97.wav",
        "text": "無限期延長簽證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/98.wav",
        "text": "可以攜帶家屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/99.wav",
        "text": "同行之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/100.wav",
        "text": "最終得以申請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/101.wav",
        "text": "永久居留權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/102.wav",
        "text": "可以預見的是未來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/103.wav",
        "text": "招募農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/104.wav",
        "text": "移工我們不只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/105.wav",
        "text": "面對內部的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/106.wav",
        "text": "我們還要面對外部的競爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/107.wav",
        "text": "我們未來是要跟日本跟南韓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/108.wav",
        "text": "一起爭取一起競爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/109.wav",
        "text": "這些農業移工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/110.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼具體的措施嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/111.wav",
        "text": "不過我想您剛才講的日本案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/112.wav",
        "text": "據我瞭解其實勞動部也"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/113.wav",
        "text": "針對勞工的相關法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/114.wav",
        "text": "在做檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/115.wav",
        "text": "做一個充分檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/116.wav",
        "text": "讓它比較適合我們現在的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/117.wav",
        "text": "這些核配比我一定想辦法讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/118.wav",
        "text": "能夠更符合我們農業的特質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/119.wav",
        "text": "農業的特質可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/120.wav",
        "text": "可以再做一個彈性的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/121.wav",
        "text": "農業這方面專業的專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/122.wav",
        "text": "所以我也很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/123.wav",
        "text": "你可以大力的為這些農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/124.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們經濟委員會所有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/125.wav",
        "text": "委員都可以做你的後盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/126.wav",
        "text": "好好地跟勞動部一起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/127.wav",
        "text": "爭取這一點我覺得你也要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/128.wav",
        "text": "善加利用會我想我們會來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/129.wav",
        "text": "好另外這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/130.wav",
        "text": "從今天早上到現在大家都想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/131.wav",
        "text": "知道的請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/132.wav",
        "text": "取得中央畜產會2022"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/133.wav",
        "text": "年8月採購日本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/134.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋的合約公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/135.wav",
        "text": "到底是哪一家公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/136.wav",
        "text": "我先問你嘛我說是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/137.wav",
        "text": "我瞭解是亮采進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/138.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/139.wav",
        "text": "我想要知道亮采是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/140.wav",
        "text": "醫美生物科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/141.wav",
        "text": "資本額只有100萬的公司為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/142.wav",
        "text": "當初亮采可以拿到合約呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/143.wav",
        "text": "第一個因為這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/144.wav",
        "text": "我稍微問了我們同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/145.wav",
        "text": "第二個我剛才說了我們當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/146.wav",
        "text": "需要蛋的話只要你有能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/147.wav",
        "text": "拿到日本蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/148.wav",
        "text": "為什麼同年付款的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/149.wav",
        "text": "卻變成是超思呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/150.wav",
        "text": "到底是跟誰簽約給誰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/151.wav",
        "text": "輸入許可應該就是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/152.wav",
        "text": "付錢給誰為什麼他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/153.wav",
        "text": "變成是你跟亮采簽約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/154.wav",
        "text": "然後把錢付給超思為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/155.wav",
        "text": "我想第一個沒有簽約我必須說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/156.wav",
        "text": "是用貨到付款買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/157.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是亮采跟超思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/158.wav",
        "text": "本身是私法人的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/159.wav",
        "text": "私法人關係不管有委任的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/160.wav",
        "text": "也好這個部分都不是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/161.wav",
        "text": "行政權可以調查的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/162.wav",
        "text": "我們已經移送給檢調單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/163.wav",
        "text": "在4月以後的幾乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/164.wav",
        "text": "應該都是買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/165.wav",
        "text": "沒有4月以後的都是買斷的部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/166.wav",
        "text": "我就是問你你確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/167.wav",
        "text": "9月付款給超思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/168.wav",
        "text": "是簽約還是買斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/169.wav",
        "text": "那亮采原本的約有沒有履約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/170.wav",
        "text": "亮采的約是到4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/171.wav",
        "text": "它4月之前都有履約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/172.wav",
        "text": "所以你確定亮采"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/173.wav",
        "text": "有履約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/174.wav",
        "text": "那照你這樣講他們都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/175.wav",
        "text": "就是亮采的合約是到4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/176.wav",
        "text": "4月以後的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/177.wav",
        "text": "我問你它有沒有履約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/178.wav",
        "text": "它有交蛋就有履約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/179.wav",
        "text": "所以他們應該是沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/180.wav",
        "text": "應該是他們兩邊都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/181.wav",
        "text": "啊如果照你這樣講沒有什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/182.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/183.wav",
        "text": "亮采的合約是到4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/184.wav",
        "text": "4月以後所有的進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/185.wav",
        "text": "都是貨到付款的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/186.wav",
        "text": "所以這個最匪夷所思的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/187.wav",
        "text": "如果照你這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/188.wav",
        "text": "亮采也沒有問題超思也沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/189.wav",
        "text": "他們兩個私法人的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/190.wav",
        "text": "以農業部的督導角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/191.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得應該去釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/192.wav",
        "text": "所以如果都沒有問題的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/193.wav",
        "text": "因為你有移送就是有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/194.wav",
        "text": "嘛你自己也覺得有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/195.wav",
        "text": "移送不代表有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/196.wav",
        "text": "移送是希望把這個事情做一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/197.wav",
        "text": "釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/198.wav",
        "text": "所以你自己內部都沒辦法釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/199.wav",
        "text": "你是付錢的人你沒辦法釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/200.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/201.wav",
        "text": "你付錢給誰你不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/202.wav",
        "text": "畜產會絕對沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/203.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒問題你現在敢跟我保證嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/204.wav",
        "text": "你敢幫畜產會保證嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/205.wav",
        "text": "我跟你說你這個太嚴重了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/206.wav",
        "text": "你要幫它保證的話就嚴重了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/207.wav",
        "text": "貨到付款是它拿到貨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/208.wav",
        "text": "然後付錢這沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/209.wav",
        "text": "那我再請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/210.wav",
        "text": "農業部補助畜產會冷藏倉儲租金1,165萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/211.wav",
        "text": "跟雞蛋的託運費295萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/212.wav",
        "text": "總共1,460萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/213.wav",
        "text": "結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/214.wav",
        "text": "畜產會實際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/215.wav",
        "text": "核銷只有723萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/216.wav",
        "text": "回50%的補助款對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/217.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/218.wav",
        "text": "因為這邊講的1,165"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/219.wav",
        "text": "跟295是計畫當初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/220.wav",
        "text": "但是最後實際的核銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/221.wav",
        "text": "那它有繳回嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/222.wav",
        "text": "我們當初已在口頭的時候說要繳回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/223.wav",
        "text": "現在在走行政程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/224.wav",
        "text": "所以它到現在都還沒有繳回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/225.wav",
        "text": "他們會繳回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/226.wav",
        "text": "但是現在在行政程序當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/227.wav",
        "text": "都可以給沒有簽約的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/228.wav",
        "text": "幾百萬的補助費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/229.wav",
        "text": "給得也很隨便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/230.wav",
        "text": "農業部到底是出了什麼問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/231.wav",
        "text": "抓緊啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/232.wav",
        "text": "你要好好地落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/233.wav",
        "text": "要能夠仔細地盤查好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/234.wav",
        "text": "拜託你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/235.wav",
        "text": "我想我們會努力地去把這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/236.wav",
        "text": "我們也做了行政調查報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/237.wav",
        "text": "有相關疑慮的地方我們也送請檢調單位在查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154370/238.wav",
        "text": "加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/0.wav",
        "text": "我們請副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/1.wav",
        "text": "麻煩副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/2.wav",
        "text": "林委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/3.wav",
        "text": "請問一下主委今天為什麼沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/4.wav",
        "text": "主委有其他的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/5.wav",
        "text": "剛才應該也有委員問過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/6.wav",
        "text": "剛才休息的時間你們沒有跟他講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/7.wav",
        "text": "有委員在關心嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/8.wav",
        "text": "有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/9.wav",
        "text": "行政作為要加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/10.wav",
        "text": "也要加強好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/11.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/12.wav",
        "text": "要不然常常讓主委在很辛苦的狀態下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/13.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/14.wav",
        "text": "及建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/15.wav",
        "text": "針對這個條文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/16.wav",
        "text": "很多東西也請你一定要帶回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/17.wav",
        "text": "我想知道主委的想法及意向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/18.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/19.wav",
        "text": "既然今天是副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/20.wav",
        "text": "您來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/21.wav",
        "text": "一些相關的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/22.wav",
        "text": "我想跟你做一個討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/23.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/24.wav",
        "text": "你希望原住民族自治嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/25.wav",
        "text": "這是長期的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/26.wav",
        "text": "一直希望二十年前大概都開始在推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/27.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/28.wav",
        "text": "所以這是我們作為原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/29.wav",
        "text": "很期待跟希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/30.wav",
        "text": "而且希望能夠真正落實的一個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/31.wav",
        "text": "我們都有這樣一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/32.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/33.wav",
        "text": "現在原住民族自治暫行條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/34.wav",
        "text": "的草案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/35.wav",
        "text": "所以現在都還在討論中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/36.wav",
        "text": "所以你們有什麼樣的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/37.wav",
        "text": "現在是朝分流立法的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/38.wav",
        "text": "成為民族自治的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/39.wav",
        "text": "我們在兩年前就跟他們有一些合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/40.wav",
        "text": "就什麼要自治要如何自治等相關的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/41.wav",
        "text": "意見都會提供給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/42.wav",
        "text": "你們排灣族你自己有沒有在參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/43.wav",
        "text": "排灣族的部分在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/44.wav",
        "text": "三年前也成立了民族議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/45.wav",
        "text": "他們也正在思考這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/46.wav",
        "text": "臺東跟屏東兩個區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/47.wav",
        "text": "屏東大概有四分之三的人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/48.wav",
        "text": "臺東有四分之一的人口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/49.wav",
        "text": "那你們繼續加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/50.wav",
        "text": "我們每一個族群都要好好加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/51.wav",
        "text": "跟我們都希望原住民族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/52.wav",
        "text": "有機會自治的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/53.wav",
        "text": "鄭委員這邊所提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/54.wav",
        "text": "你們認為與憲法有牴觸的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/55.wav",
        "text": "可以告訴本席為什麼原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/56.wav",
        "text": "不能以自身的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/57.wav",
        "text": "跟理念朝向自治邁進呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/58.wav",
        "text": "因為以目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/59.wav",
        "text": "原民會成立28年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/60.wav",
        "text": "它整個組織法的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/61.wav",
        "text": "在不同的政黨之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/62.wav",
        "text": "執行得還算順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/63.wav",
        "text": "的提案不管是任命的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/64.wav",
        "text": "或者是審查同意的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/65.wav",
        "text": "甚至時間保障的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/66.wav",
        "text": "因為這個跟憲法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/67.wav",
        "text": "有些明文的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/68.wav",
        "text": "是有相牴觸的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/69.wav",
        "text": "所以我們就這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/70.wav",
        "text": "其實還有很多必須要突破的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/71.wav",
        "text": "當然像第56條就明定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/72.wav",
        "text": "部會首長必須是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/73.wav",
        "text": "院長提請總統任命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/74.wav",
        "text": "我們是原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/75.wav",
        "text": "國家這個概念應該在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/76.wav",
        "text": "我們存在之後才有的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/77.wav",
        "text": "所以如果憲法給予我們寬廣的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/78.wav",
        "text": "針對第10條第十二項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/79.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有可能在這樣一個思維下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/80.wav",
        "text": "不要自己受限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/81.wav",
        "text": "在現有的條文之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/82.wav",
        "text": "自我矮化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/83.wav",
        "text": "跟自己設限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/84.wav",
        "text": "這樣才會是我們原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/85.wav",
        "text": "在朝向我們期待的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/86.wav",
        "text": "才有可能的可能性跟思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/87.wav",
        "text": "你不覺得嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/88.wav",
        "text": "你聽得懂我講這句話嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/89.wav",
        "text": "理解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/90.wav",
        "text": "按照目前所謂的政黨政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/91.wav",
        "text": "跟行政議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/92.wav",
        "text": "我想現在連釋憲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/93.wav",
        "text": "都有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/94.wav",
        "text": "都有相關的原則跟規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/95.wav",
        "text": "我一直跟您強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/96.wav",
        "text": "第10條的這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/97.wav",
        "text": "你們應該跳脫現在已經被殖民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/98.wav",
        "text": "跟被框架的思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/99.wav",
        "text": "跳出來到憲法層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/100.wav",
        "text": "來思考原住民的特殊性跟未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/101.wav",
        "text": "這是我給你的一個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/102.wav",
        "text": "好好的想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/103.wav",
        "text": "先把它想通想懂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/104.wav",
        "text": "然後再試著看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/105.wav",
        "text": "不要自己先跳到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/106.wav",
        "text": "已經被殖民被框架的條文之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/107.wav",
        "text": "去思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/108.wav",
        "text": "這樣我們可能會離我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/109.wav",
        "text": "共同的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/110.wav",
        "text": "還有一段很長的距離"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/111.wav",
        "text": "高金委員提出政委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/112.wav",
        "text": "兼主委這樣的一個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/113.wav",
        "text": "我覺得挺好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/114.wav",
        "text": "我來問一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/115.wav",
        "text": "本席有碰到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/116.wav",
        "text": "啦不曉得你們覺得是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/117.wav",
        "text": "我覺得所有原住民的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/118.wav",
        "text": "立法委員都很認真的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/119.wav",
        "text": "在幫你們推動行政事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/120.wav",
        "text": "你知道為什麼嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/121.wav",
        "text": "我們在行政單位都待過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/122.wav",
        "text": "你覺得原住民的事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/123.wav",
        "text": "有一個共同的困境是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/124.wav",
        "text": "比較複雜多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/125.wav",
        "text": "因為複雜多元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/126.wav",
        "text": "所以是一個原民會就可以做的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/127.wav",
        "text": "當然原民會要綜理整個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/128.wav",
        "text": "原住民的相關政務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/129.wav",
        "text": "是啊所以你覺得以你目前的行政能耐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/130.wav",
        "text": "能夠去統合各部會嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/131.wav",
        "text": "目前我們在各部會之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/132.wav",
        "text": "都有相關的平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/133.wav",
        "text": "在推動相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/134.wav",
        "text": "跨部會的合作工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/135.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/136.wav",
        "text": "在本席私下跟你們同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/137.wav",
        "text": "討論一些原住民族業務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/138.wav",
        "text": "你們甚至有人還不太清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/139.wav",
        "text": "其他部會是怎麼推動的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/140.wav",
        "text": "有些平臺你們可能還不太清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/141.wav",
        "text": "在討論些什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/142.wav",
        "text": "在其他的事務上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/143.wav",
        "text": "跟委員會來做爭取跟推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/144.wav",
        "text": "所以我要講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/145.wav",
        "text": "如果政務委員有機會來擔任這樣一個位子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/146.wav",
        "text": "能兼任主委的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/147.wav",
        "text": "他有沒有可能在一個比較高的高度上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/148.wav",
        "text": "來解決你們行政上的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/149.wav",
        "text": "你覺得有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/150.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/151.wav",
        "text": "因為這涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/152.wav",
        "text": "同樣的喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/153.wav",
        "text": "不要再自我行政殖民受限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/154.wav",
        "text": "跳脫出來一個原住民主體的思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/155.wav",
        "text": "好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/156.wav",
        "text": "這是我給你們的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/157.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/158.wav",
        "text": "今天你們既然談到憲法的層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/159.wav",
        "text": "請你以憲法的最高層次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/160.wav",
        "text": "來為族群原住民族爭取最大的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/161.wav",
        "text": "最重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/162.wav",
        "text": "自己的主體性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/163.wav",
        "text": "不要在國家概念上的思維被自我矮化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/164.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/165.wav",
        "text": "我們共同來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/166.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/167.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154371/168.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/0.wav",
        "text": "部長你喝水喝完再上來沒關係慢慢來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/2.wav",
        "text": "最近雞蛋盛產我們的蛋農跟蛋商都很慘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/3.wav",
        "text": "可是我沒想到的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/4.wav",
        "text": "最近中央畜產會還倒蛋還倒貨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/5.wav",
        "text": "進我們的市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/6.wav",
        "text": "不是應該減少這個蛋的量嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/7.wav",
        "text": "怎麼中央畜產會還火上加油呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/8.wav",
        "text": "這裡面至少有三大的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/9.wav",
        "text": "第一有沒有衝擊影響到我們蛋農的生計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/10.wav",
        "text": "第二破壞了你農業部最重要的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/11.wav",
        "text": "──產銷的平衡第三個是可能會出現的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/12.wav",
        "text": "現在釋出的是去年過期的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/13.wav",
        "text": "或者是即將過期的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/14.wav",
        "text": "等一下這部分我們要好好談我有數據給你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/15.wav",
        "text": "有沒有過期的蛋或即將過期的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/16.wav",
        "text": "吃到我們的肚子我畫了個問號等一下我們來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/17.wav",
        "text": "\n這三部分我先問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/18.wav",
        "text": "部長這次產銷失衡就是蛋太多嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/19.wav",
        "text": "你的任務跟中央畜產會的任務應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/20.wav",
        "text": "結果為什麼反而中央畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/21.wav",
        "text": "從今年5月17日開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/22.wav",
        "text": "到現在已經五梯次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/23.wav",
        "text": "公開標售蛋蛋就已經太多了你還倒蛋下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/24.wav",
        "text": "火上加油我算起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/25.wav",
        "text": "全液蛋加上蛋黃液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/26.wav",
        "text": "茶葉蛋滷蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/27.wav",
        "text": "大概已經倒進市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/28.wav",
        "text": "兩千兩百多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/29.wav",
        "text": "這個會不會太離譜了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/30.wav",
        "text": "你要解決問題的人結果去製造問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/31.wav",
        "text": "這在臺灣話中叫什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/32.wav",
        "text": "如果從行政學上去看這是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/33.wav",
        "text": "行政管理上是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/34.wav",
        "text": "有些農民都已經氣到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/35.wav",
        "text": "講那句話了我實在不好意思說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/36.wav",
        "text": "很夭壽耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/37.wav",
        "text": "你沒有解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/38.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會這時候還倒貨進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/39.wav",
        "text": "蛋價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/40.wav",
        "text": "就連去買飼料的錢都不夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/41.wav",
        "text": "弄到後來前幾天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/42.wav",
        "text": "有那麼多媒體都報導那個畫面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/43.wav",
        "text": "大家想一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/44.wav",
        "text": "有些為了減少蛋再進到市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/45.wav",
        "text": "拿去養豬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/46.wav",
        "text": "就是要減少它的量啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/47.wav",
        "text": "結果你相對這邊的畫面是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/48.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會從5月17號開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/49.wav",
        "text": "倒了兩千兩百多萬顆的蛋進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/50.wav",
        "text": "這時人民不會憤怒嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/51.wav",
        "text": "欺負我們善良的農民是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/52.wav",
        "text": "這個中央畜產會到底在幹嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/53.wav",
        "text": "它有替我們人民解決問題嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/54.wav",
        "text": "它反而製造了問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/55.wav",
        "text": "是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/56.wav",
        "text": "我可不可以說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/57.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們是回歸到市場機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/58.wav",
        "text": "農業部的任務就是能夠穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/59.wav",
        "text": "生產端跟消費端的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/60.wav",
        "text": "然後中央畜產會本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/61.wav",
        "text": "依畜牧法它是負有產銷調節的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/62.wav",
        "text": "我跟要跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/63.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/64.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會也是對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/65.wav",
        "text": "現在是產量過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/66.wav",
        "text": "要減少喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/67.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會現在不只沒有減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/68.wav",
        "text": "他還倒貨進來喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/69.wav",
        "text": "你贊成它這樣做是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/70.wav",
        "text": "不是我贊成這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/71.wav",
        "text": "因為這些進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/72.wav",
        "text": "調節應該是減少它的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/73.wav",
        "text": "讓價格回升啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/74.wav",
        "text": "你倒貨不是價格會越來越"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/75.wav",
        "text": "你這是火上加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/76.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會是解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/77.wav",
        "text": "我們的進口雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/78.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會有那麼多報廢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/79.wav",
        "text": "因為我們是看到市場的蛋本身的價格穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/80.wav",
        "text": "我們不會往市場裡面去倒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/81.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/82.wav",
        "text": "它已經是一個加工蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/83.wav",
        "text": "但加工蛋的標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/84.wav",
        "text": "跟生鮮雞蛋的標的市場是不一樣的部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/85.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/86.wav",
        "text": "早上我如果有吃液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/87.wav",
        "text": "我蒸了一個蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/88.wav",
        "text": "我還需要去吃一個雞蛋嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/89.wav",
        "text": "不是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/90.wav",
        "text": "它本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/91.wav",
        "text": "的那個那個液蛋是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/92.wav",
        "text": "我告訴你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/93.wav",
        "text": "現在就必須把它變成加工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/94.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/95.wav",
        "text": "我現在所有的資料都是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/96.wav",
        "text": "專區拉下來的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/97.wav",
        "text": "去年的快過期了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/98.wav",
        "text": "或者我甚至擔心有沒有過期問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/99.wav",
        "text": "好就算沒有過期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/100.wav",
        "text": "也即將過期對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/101.wav",
        "text": "為了要保存多一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/102.wav",
        "text": "所以要把它打成液蛋嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/103.wav",
        "text": "那你應該是去年賣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/104.wav",
        "text": "或者是在雞蛋少的時候賣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/105.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼會找現在雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/106.wav",
        "text": "最多最便宜的時候把蛋又丟進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/107.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/108.wav",
        "text": "你說兩個有不一樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/109.wav",
        "text": "它都是蛋啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/110.wav",
        "text": "我如果吃了液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/111.wav",
        "text": "聽我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/112.wav",
        "text": "你今天釋出來的不是只有液蛋喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/113.wav",
        "text": "你還釋出了茶葉蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/114.wav",
        "text": "跟滷蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/115.wav",
        "text": "茶葉蛋吃了一顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/116.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼還要吃一顆生鮮的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/117.wav",
        "text": "它本身就是可以選擇的我瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/118.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/119.wav",
        "text": "告就是我們畜產會在做這樣的操作的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/120.wav",
        "text": "有他們的一個邏輯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/121.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/122.wav",
        "text": "它以每天2,400萬顆的這個量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/123.wav",
        "text": "它所釋出的那個比重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/124.wav",
        "text": "其實他們都有做一些相關的評估啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/125.wav",
        "text": "你應該是有專業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/126.wav",
        "text": "你是有知識沒有常識嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/127.wav",
        "text": "明明市場就過多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/128.wav",
        "text": "價格已經跌成這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/129.wav",
        "text": "你量就是加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/130.wav",
        "text": "你還在幫他辯護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/131.wav",
        "text": "沒有不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/132.wav",
        "text": "我是說整個雞蛋本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/133.wav",
        "text": "你是有專業你是有知識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/134.wav",
        "text": "可是我剛剛講的是一個常識問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/135.wav",
        "text": "對這個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/136.wav",
        "text": "產跟銷要平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/137.wav",
        "text": "對不對產就已經生產過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/138.wav",
        "text": "你還把東西加進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/139.wav",
        "text": "過剩了怎麼叫做平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/140.wav",
        "text": "太多的東西要變少對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/141.wav",
        "text": "過剩了要怎麼平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/142.wav",
        "text": "產銷的平衡有一部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/143.wav",
        "text": "這也是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/144.wav",
        "text": "你一個更嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/145.wav",
        "text": "兩千兩百多萬顆進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/146.wav",
        "text": "我看了你去年給我的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/147.wav",
        "text": "一共還有七千萬顆去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/148.wav",
        "text": "去年因為你買蛋買太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/149.wav",
        "text": "除了銷毀之外做成加工的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/150.wav",
        "text": "有七千萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/151.wav",
        "text": "現在已經倒了兩千兩百多萬顆進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/152.wav",
        "text": "本席做一個明確的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/153.wav",
        "text": "剩下的四千多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/154.wav",
        "text": "最近不能再倒了可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/155.wav",
        "text": "我想他們會基於專業的判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/156.wav",
        "text": "農民已經氣到不止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/157.wav",
        "text": "失職失能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/158.wav",
        "text": "已經是夭壽了說實在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/159.wav",
        "text": "人民現在能夠多憤怒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/160.wav",
        "text": "能夠罵多重的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/161.wav",
        "text": "再想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/162.wav",
        "text": "在失衡的時候你倒這麼多蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/163.wav",
        "text": "已經不對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/164.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會觀察蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/165.wav",
        "text": "部長我知道你有你的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/166.wav",
        "text": "我要一再強調一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/167.wav",
        "text": "人在公門好修行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/168.wav",
        "text": "有腦袋之外拜託有那個心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/169.wav",
        "text": "濱立委我覺得他的質詢很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/170.wav",
        "text": "不管是哪一個黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/171.wav",
        "text": "有心幫人民解決問題就是好立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/172.wav",
        "text": "一樣啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/173.wav",
        "text": "不是只有腦袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/174.wav",
        "text": "部長到目前大家對你的評價不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/175.wav",
        "text": "如果你有心你就是一個好官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/176.wav",
        "text": "你現在都沒有感受到那種痛嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/177.wav",
        "text": "你如果是一個養雞戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/178.wav",
        "text": "是一個蛋農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/179.wav",
        "text": "是一個蛋商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/180.wav",
        "text": "因為你看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/181.wav",
        "text": "我當然瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/182.wav",
        "text": "我當然瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/183.wav",
        "text": "我們會努力來做這方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/184.wav",
        "text": "做個好官"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/185.wav",
        "text": "好不好我提兩點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/186.wav",
        "text": "點動動腦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/187.wav",
        "text": "啦我們用心跟用腦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/188.wav",
        "text": "幫蛋農和人民解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/189.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/190.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/191.wav",
        "text": "知道你已經做了一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/192.wav",
        "text": "你降了關稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/193.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/194.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/195.wav",
        "text": "考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/196.wav",
        "text": "太多的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/197.wav",
        "text": "你都去補助了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/198.wav",
        "text": "考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/199.wav",
        "text": "怎麼去補助蛋農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/200.wav",
        "text": "特別在飼料那一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/201.wav",
        "text": "你已經降低關稅了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/202.wav",
        "text": "想一下能不能再有一點補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/203.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/204.wav",
        "text": "第二個更重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/205.wav",
        "text": "去年進口蛋進口太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/206.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/207.wav",
        "text": "你做了什麼動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/208.wav",
        "text": "加工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/209.wav",
        "text": "打成液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/210.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/211.wav",
        "text": "你解決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/212.wav",
        "text": "你這樣解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/213.wav",
        "text": "現在國內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/214.wav",
        "text": "本土蛋農出問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/215.wav",
        "text": "你不能用同樣的方法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/216.wav",
        "text": "能叫中央畜產會去買一些回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/217.wav",
        "text": "一樣做成蛋液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/218.wav",
        "text": "或是做成滷蛋茶葉蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/219.wav",
        "text": "以後有需要再賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/220.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/221.wav",
        "text": "嗎去年可以這樣幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/222.wav",
        "text": "為什麼今年沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/223.wav",
        "text": "我們現在正在評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/224.wav",
        "text": "這就是我講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/225.wav",
        "text": "我們必須有一些國產蛋去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/226.wav",
        "text": "去做一個調配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/227.wav",
        "text": "但這個調配需要比較細緻的操作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/228.wav",
        "text": "的對話其實我有聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/229.wav",
        "text": "一天就是兩千四百"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/230.wav",
        "text": "目前為什麼會過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/231.wav",
        "text": "32顆左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/232.wav",
        "text": "多32顆的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/233.wav",
        "text": "所以我剛才生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/234.wav",
        "text": "你又丟了兩千兩百"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/235.wav",
        "text": "至少這個多出來的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/236.wav",
        "text": "你可以買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/237.wav",
        "text": "就像去年一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/238.wav",
        "text": "買完以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/239.wav",
        "text": "做成液蛋就有一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/240.wav",
        "text": "你都可以幫外國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/241.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能幫我們本國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/242.wav",
        "text": "好好想一下這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/243.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/244.wav",
        "text": "我們已經有在做這樣的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/245.wav",
        "text": "有規劃了那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/246.wav",
        "text": "趕快做好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/247.wav",
        "text": "我覺得量都可以講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/248.wav",
        "text": "去年多買七千萬顆放在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/249.wav",
        "text": "至少今年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/250.wav",
        "text": "你也可以買我們本國的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/251.wav",
        "text": "買七千萬顆進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/252.wav",
        "text": "那量就減少了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/253.wav",
        "text": "就真的達到產銷平衡了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/254.wav",
        "text": "液蛋茶葉蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/255.wav",
        "text": "未來一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/256.wav",
        "text": "隨時缺蛋就可以放進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/257.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/258.wav",
        "text": "因為冬天需要的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/259.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/260.wav",
        "text": "我講一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/261.wav",
        "text": "剩下的4005百萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/262.wav",
        "text": "不要再釋出了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/263.wav",
        "text": "不要再倒貨了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/264.wav",
        "text": "剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/265.wav",
        "text": "考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/266.wav",
        "text": "補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/267.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的蛋農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/268.wav",
        "text": "蛋商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/269.wav",
        "text": "負擔不要那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/270.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/271.wav",
        "text": "好好想一想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/272.wav",
        "text": "七千萬顆應該可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/273.wav",
        "text": "合理啦好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/274.wav",
        "text": "瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/275.wav",
        "text": "多動動腦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/276.wav",
        "text": "啦我們多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/277.wav",
        "text": "我們會來規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/278.wav",
        "text": "部長多用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/279.wav",
        "text": "專業之外多用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/280.wav",
        "text": "我們期待的是一個好的官員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154372/281.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/0.wav",
        "text": "有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/2.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/3.wav",
        "text": "委員部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/4.wav",
        "text": "我就以你業務報告裡提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/5.wav",
        "text": "原住民農產業發展現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/6.wav",
        "text": "就教針對臺東縣長濱鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/7.wav",
        "text": "稻穗結實纍纍待收割"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/8.wav",
        "text": "目前等待收割中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/9.wav",
        "text": "但有些田區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/10.wav",
        "text": "就已經被大肆破壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/11.wav",
        "text": "加走灣部落"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/12.wav",
        "text": "你們現在對這個問題要如何防範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/13.wav",
        "text": "也曾經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/14.wav",
        "text": "不是曾經是現在也都一直在破壞中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/15.wav",
        "text": "你們要如何防治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/16.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/17.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/18.wav",
        "text": "現在你講的水稻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/19.wav",
        "text": "還有很多果樹類的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/20.wav",
        "text": "常常會受到獼猴的危害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/21.wav",
        "text": "圍網部分去做一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/22.wav",
        "text": "或者環保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/23.wav",
        "text": "的部分但這些措施對水稻田來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/24.wav",
        "text": "幾乎沒辦法做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/25.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/26.wav",
        "text": "我們可以來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/27.wav",
        "text": "就是他們可以僱工來驅趕獼猴這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/28.wav",
        "text": "我希望你們用專案方式處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/29.wav",
        "text": "農業部對於整體野生動物不斷增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/30.wav",
        "text": "有什麼比較有效的解決方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/31.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/32.wav",
        "text": "有關於架設電網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/33.wav",
        "text": "如簡易電網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/34.wav",
        "text": "請問農業部有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/35.wav",
        "text": "部落社區的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/36.wav",
        "text": "以農產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/37.wav",
        "text": "與在地成員形成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/38.wav",
        "text": "新興組織的重要議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/39.wav",
        "text": "農業部目前有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/40.wav",
        "text": "或者以部落為主體的產業發展規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/41.wav",
        "text": "原鄉離消費市場甚遠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/42.wav",
        "text": "除了運銷成本高外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/43.wav",
        "text": "也受到銷售管道的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/44.wav",
        "text": "近年來銷售近況不盡理想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/45.wav",
        "text": "導致族人種植意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/46.wav",
        "text": "請問農產品銷售管道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/47.wav",
        "text": "狹隘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/48.wav",
        "text": "滯銷風險大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/49.wav",
        "text": "農業部有何解決方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/50.wav",
        "text": "第三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/51.wav",
        "text": "針對原鄉特定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/52.wav",
        "text": "或者休耕補助方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/53.wav",
        "text": "以上問題請一週內給我回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/54.wav",
        "text": "\n另外本席認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/55.wav",
        "text": "農業技藝土地記憶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/56.wav",
        "text": "與原鄉發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/57.wav",
        "text": "是直接連結在一起的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/58.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠實現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/59.wav",
        "text": "以農為本的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/60.wav",
        "text": "抵抗政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/61.wav",
        "text": "也才能找回土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/62.wav",
        "text": "對原住民族回鄉者的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/63.wav",
        "text": "相關報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/64.wav",
        "text": "能不能提供給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/65.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛所列的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/66.wav",
        "text": "我們都會提供報告給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/67.wav",
        "text": "現在我只簡單說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/68.wav",
        "text": "原民農業的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/69.wav",
        "text": "我們針對原民農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/70.wav",
        "text": "原力再現的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/71.wav",
        "text": "這個計畫除了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/72.wav",
        "text": "讓原住民找回他們原始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/73.wav",
        "text": "傳統的技藝結合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/74.wav",
        "text": "我們現在改良的技術以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/75.wav",
        "text": "搭配他後端的技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/76.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/77.wav",
        "text": "針對原民部落本身的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/78.wav",
        "text": "這些相關補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/79.wav",
        "text": "我們都有加成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/80.wav",
        "text": "比平地還加成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/81.wav",
        "text": "因為時間因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/82.wav",
        "text": "請就以下四點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/83.wav",
        "text": "缺乏產業特色與定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/84.wav",
        "text": "第三整體包裝與行銷不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/85.wav",
        "text": "第四經營管理理念與技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/86.wav",
        "text": "這個報告一週內給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/87.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154373/88.wav",
        "text": "好我們會提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/0.wav",
        "text": "徐委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/1.wav",
        "text": "今天都是你在答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/2.wav",
        "text": "詢首先請教副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/3.wav",
        "text": "您認為今天審議的法案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/4.wav",
        "text": "是不是典型的原住民自治議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/5.wav",
        "text": "是或不是就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/6.wav",
        "text": "這是組織法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/7.wav",
        "text": "是原民會的組織法規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/8.wav",
        "text": "那它算不算一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/9.wav",
        "text": "原住民自治的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/10.wav",
        "text": "是嘛很典型"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/11.wav",
        "text": "在行政運作上原民自主自行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/12.wav",
        "text": "還有獨立的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/13.wav",
        "text": "對我就問是或不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/14.wav",
        "text": "剛剛我也聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/15.wav",
        "text": "林委員質詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/16.wav",
        "text": "說您支持原住民自治長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/17.wav",
        "text": "你要表達支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/18.wav",
        "text": "支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/19.wav",
        "text": "行政院組織等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/20.wav",
        "text": "您贊不贊成提案主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/21.wav",
        "text": "由山原平原輪做的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/22.wav",
        "text": "我先瞭解您贊不贊成山原"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/23.wav",
        "text": "山原平原輪做的主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/24.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣的輪流主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/25.wav",
        "text": "也涉及到未來提名人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/26.wav",
        "text": "任命的權力部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/27.wav",
        "text": "對那您贊不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/28.wav",
        "text": "不要浪費我的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/29.wav",
        "text": "您贊不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/30.wav",
        "text": "贊成或不贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/31.wav",
        "text": "以目前來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/32.wav",
        "text": "目前原民會的推動還算順利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/33.wav",
        "text": "因為從剛剛委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/34.wav",
        "text": "目前提案的這種自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/35.wav",
        "text": "應該還算是蠻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/36.wav",
        "text": "低度的自治吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/37.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/38.wav",
        "text": "因為自治是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/39.wav",
        "text": "很龐雜的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/40.wav",
        "text": "可能要有配套的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/41.wav",
        "text": "對啊所以目前的提案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/42.wav",
        "text": "都算比較低度的吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/43.wav",
        "text": "就是由原住民自己選主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/44.wav",
        "text": "或是原住民的領袖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/45.wav",
        "text": "副主委你的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/46.wav",
        "text": "支不支持呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/47.wav",
        "text": "所以你不敢講支不支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/48.wav",
        "text": "還是你支持呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/49.wav",
        "text": "以目前來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/50.wav",
        "text": "國家政府組織推行政務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/51.wav",
        "text": "要直接對人民負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/52.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個憲政體制底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/53.wav",
        "text": "對嘛所以你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/54.wav",
        "text": "那你認不認同原住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/55.wav",
        "text": "自己選出主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/56.wav",
        "text": "或是原住民的領袖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/57.wav",
        "text": "原住民領袖都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/58.wav",
        "text": "現在各族群都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/59.wav",
        "text": "那你指的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/60.wav",
        "text": "比如說像頭目傳統領袖"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/61.wav",
        "text": "他沒有實質的政治權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/62.wav",
        "text": "自己組成最高的議會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/63.wav",
        "text": "您的看法如何同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/64.wav",
        "text": "因為現在各族都有民族議會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/65.wav",
        "text": "OK你同意喔"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/66.wav",
        "text": "比如說排灣族卑南族"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/67.wav",
        "text": "魯凱族都有民族議會在運作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/68.wav",
        "text": "原住民自治應該不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/69.wav",
        "text": "只有選出最高領袖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/70.wav",
        "text": "還有最高議會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/71.wav",
        "text": "應該有更多原住民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/72.wav",
        "text": "自治事項的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/73.wav",
        "text": "譬如教育經濟文化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/74.wav",
        "text": "語言等等對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/75.wav",
        "text": "你講一下你的概念跟想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/76.wav",
        "text": "這個是也是謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/77.wav",
        "text": "我們的看法應該是相同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/78.wav",
        "text": "因為就原住民語言的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/79.wav",
        "text": "必須要自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/80.wav",
        "text": "通過原住民族語言法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/81.wav",
        "text": "讓原住民族的語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/82.wav",
        "text": "成為國家的語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/83.wav",
        "text": "更多原住民自治事項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/84.wav",
        "text": "語言只是其中一項對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/85.wav",
        "text": "包括教育的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/86.wav",
        "text": "也有原住民族教育法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/87.wav",
        "text": "我們民族教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/88.wav",
        "text": "這個對對於我們推動原住民自治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/89.wav",
        "text": "這些比較具體實體事項的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/90.wav",
        "text": "推動程序的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/91.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼來推動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/92.wav",
        "text": "現在是採分流立法的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/93.wav",
        "text": "因為以目前推動的相關工作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/94.wav",
        "text": "包括所謂的鄉鎮市區長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/95.wav",
        "text": "像以山地原住民鄉鎮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/96.wav",
        "text": "為例所有的鄉鎮市區長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/97.wav",
        "text": "一定要具有原住民身分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/98.wav",
        "text": "所以就鄉來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/99.wav",
        "text": "鄉自治的一個機制"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/100.wav",
        "text": "對啊所以您現在所講的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/101.wav",
        "text": "很多分流的推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/102.wav",
        "text": "很多都是周邊的事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/103.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/104.wav",
        "text": "那一些比較自治的核心事項"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/105.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有想過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/106.wav",
        "text": "有跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/107.wav",
        "text": "因為自治上次提到過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/108.wav",
        "text": "最核心的是什麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/109.wav",
        "text": "五進五出在立法院"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/110.wav",
        "text": "它涉及到整個行政區的劃分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/111.wav",
        "text": "這個也會面臨衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/112.wav",
        "text": "比如說花蓮臺東這兩個縣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/113.wav",
        "text": "因為都是原住民鄉鎮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/114.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會五進五出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/115.wav",
        "text": "是因為沒有共識還是怎麼"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/116.wav",
        "text": "樣還是不完備"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/117.wav",
        "text": "它裡面有爭議的議題很多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/118.wav",
        "text": "在民族自治以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/119.wav",
        "text": "就一個行政區域來講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/120.wav",
        "text": "它的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/121.wav",
        "text": "比如說花蓮臺東兩個縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/122.wav",
        "text": "可能就會不存在了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/123.wav",
        "text": "它如果要民族自治的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/124.wav",
        "text": "影響到我們一般非原住民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/125.wav",
        "text": "對也會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/126.wav",
        "text": "所以這個需要比較久的時間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/127.wav",
        "text": "大家要有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/128.wav",
        "text": "包括我們在新竹就有2個鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/129.wav",
        "text": "它要脫離新竹縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/130.wav",
        "text": "變成是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/131.wav",
        "text": "而且民族跟民族之間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/132.wav",
        "text": "有一些重疊的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/133.wav",
        "text": "所以怎麼樣具體推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/134.wav",
        "text": "而且可以落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/135.wav",
        "text": "這個才是你們的挑戰好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/136.wav",
        "text": "接著因為時間不多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/137.wav",
        "text": "原住民就業自治條例的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/138.wav",
        "text": "來就教於您"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/139.wav",
        "text": "行政院5月3號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/140.wav",
        "text": "函告臺北新北對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/141.wav",
        "text": "你應該很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/142.wav",
        "text": "有關原住民就業自治條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/143.wav",
        "text": "部分條文無效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/144.wav",
        "text": "雙北市政府分別在5月30"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/145.wav",
        "text": "及6月3號提起訴願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/146.wav",
        "text": "那行政院原民會也回應了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/147.wav",
        "text": "地方政府提出訴願將"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/148.wav",
        "text": "循程序進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/149.wav",
        "text": "請問副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/150.wav",
        "text": "無效的理由是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/151.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/152.wav",
        "text": "因為這個不是我督導的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/153.wav",
        "text": "因為雙北的那個自治條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/154.wav",
        "text": "因為目前我們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/155.wav",
        "text": "原住民族工作權保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/156.wav",
        "text": "主要有第4條第5條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/157.wav",
        "text": "還有政府採購法的相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/158.wav",
        "text": "已經有規範了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/159.wav",
        "text": "所以牴觸的是這兩部法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/160.wav",
        "text": "牴觸了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/161.wav",
        "text": "是抵觸了原住民族工作權保障法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/162.wav",
        "text": "以及政府採購法的相關規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/163.wav",
        "text": "好那這樣本席就教您一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/164.wav",
        "text": "工作權保障法第24條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/165.wav",
        "text": "也有規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/166.wav",
        "text": "一律依差額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/167.wav",
        "text": "人數乘以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/168.wav",
        "text": "每個月基本工資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/169.wav",
        "text": "來計算繳納代金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/170.wav",
        "text": "解釋是違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/171.wav",
        "text": "是違憲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/172.wav",
        "text": "要於本解釋公布之日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/173.wav",
        "text": "是110年10月8日起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/174.wav",
        "text": "兩年內要依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/175.wav",
        "text": "這一個司法院解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/176.wav",
        "text": "違憲的意旨要修正之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/177.wav",
        "text": "它2年內要修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/178.wav",
        "text": "我們現在已經超過2年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/179.wav",
        "text": "為什麼沒有修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/180.wav",
        "text": "我們目前這部法律已經送進立法院了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/181.wav",
        "text": "還所謂送進立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/182.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼沒有審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/183.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候送進立法院的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/184.wav",
        "text": "今年2月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/185.wav",
        "text": "你今年2月已經超過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/186.wav",
        "text": "2年4個月才送進立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/187.wav",
        "text": "是跟委員補充說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/188.wav",
        "text": "然後今年又再送第二次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/189.wav",
        "text": "所以9月的時候沒有審完是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/190.wav",
        "text": "完全沒審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/191.wav",
        "text": "那你們有沒有去拜託召委排案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/192.wav",
        "text": "執政黨每一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/193.wav",
        "text": "也都有召委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/194.wav",
        "text": "我們最想知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/195.wav",
        "text": "你們的立場跟態度是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/196.wav",
        "text": "究竟打算怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/197.wav",
        "text": "們都回復說已經送立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/198.wav",
        "text": "這個答案我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/199.wav",
        "text": "啊但是就這句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/200.wav",
        "text": "然後繼續躺在那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/201.wav",
        "text": "對不對繼續躺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/202.wav",
        "text": "然後都一直過期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/203.wav",
        "text": "你到底有沒有真的想要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/204.wav",
        "text": "維護原住民族的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/205.wav",
        "text": "關於原住民的工作權保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/206.wav",
        "text": "釋字第810號解釋的意旨是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/207.wav",
        "text": "2年內要儘速修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/208.wav",
        "text": "在還沒有完成修正前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/209.wav",
        "text": "應該要有一些配套的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/210.wav",
        "text": "現在如果我們針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/211.wav",
        "text": "重點我們是立法委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/212.wav",
        "text": "嘛而且還拖那麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/213.wav",
        "text": "我現在就是在問為什麼拖那麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/214.wav",
        "text": "當然這個不是科長你的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/215.wav",
        "text": "副主委你要加把勁吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/216.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/217.wav",
        "text": "好這個部分的確是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/218.wav",
        "text": "超過2年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/219.wav",
        "text": "2年又8個月快3年了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/220.wav",
        "text": "好啦加油好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154374/221.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/2.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/3.wav",
        "text": "我想請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/4.wav",
        "text": "在接任部長之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/5.wav",
        "text": "你在農委會擔任多久的職務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/6.wav",
        "text": "我108年3月進到農委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/7.wav",
        "text": "所以你是長期在農委會任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/8.wav",
        "text": "職我認識你的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/9.wav",
        "text": "你應該是副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/10.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/11.wav",
        "text": "任職也很謝謝農委會對於臺北市相關農產運銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/12.wav",
        "text": "或者是北農的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/13.wav",
        "text": "所以當時的副主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/14.wav",
        "text": "現在的部長應該非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/15.wav",
        "text": "果菜市場及魚市場的改建中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/16.wav",
        "text": "當時我銜命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/17.wav",
        "text": "因為臺北市議會要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/18.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要跟中央爭取補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/19.wav",
        "text": "及魚市場的改建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/20.wav",
        "text": "總共花費大概140億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/21.wav",
        "text": "當時議會有下一個決議說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/22.wav",
        "text": "因為北農有一個大股東叫做農委會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/23.wav",
        "text": "應該是占22.76"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/24.wav",
        "text": "全國漁會的股份也有39%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/25.wav",
        "text": "所以要求我們要跟中央爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/26.wav",
        "text": "我給部長看一張照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/27.wav",
        "text": "我們接受議會的要求之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/28.wav",
        "text": "我就帶著董事長跟總經理來拜訪陳吉仲主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/29.wav",
        "text": "這件事情你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/30.wav",
        "text": "當時會面的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/31.wav",
        "text": "我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/32.wav",
        "text": "我事後才知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/33.wav",
        "text": "我們當時爭取興建經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/34.wav",
        "text": "但主委說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/35.wav",
        "text": "臺北市是一級財政城市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/36.wav",
        "text": "所以不予補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/37.wav",
        "text": "但是陳主委當時又說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/38.wav",
        "text": "接下去興建好了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/39.wav",
        "text": "冷鏈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/40.wav",
        "text": "及軟體設備的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/41.wav",
        "text": "農委會可以考慮來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/42.wav",
        "text": "所以我想問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/43.wav",
        "text": "現在的陳部長會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/44.wav",
        "text": "因為批發市場是一個非常重要的市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/45.wav",
        "text": "所以內部包括冷鏈的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/46.wav",
        "text": "特別是拍賣能夠升級的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/47.wav",
        "text": "我想我們都會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/48.wav",
        "text": "它的硬體還在蓋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/49.wav",
        "text": "陳前主委跟現在的陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/50.wav",
        "text": "它不只是單純的臺北市工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/51.wav",
        "text": "而且是攸關農民跟漁民的生計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/52.wav",
        "text": "我希望將來也是農委會的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/53.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/54.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/55.wav",
        "text": "接著我們再看第二張照片"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/56.wav",
        "text": "我在臺北市的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/57.wav",
        "text": "我看到您在2020年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/58.wav",
        "text": "其實就已經開始推動所謂的分級包裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/59.wav",
        "text": "分級包裝已經推了這麼多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/60.wav",
        "text": "你覺得成效好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/61.wav",
        "text": "我覺得要看品項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/62.wav",
        "text": "有些品項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/63.wav",
        "text": "可以把它的平均價格拉上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/64.wav",
        "text": "有改善一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/65.wav",
        "text": "但是改善得好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/66.wav",
        "text": "不夠好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/67.wav",
        "text": "還要再努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/68.wav",
        "text": "再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/69.wav",
        "text": "我常常拿這個當例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/70.wav",
        "text": "我們每天有1,700噸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/71.wav",
        "text": "尤其是蔬菜的交易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/72.wav",
        "text": "但是我們每天的垃圾將近有37噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/73.wav",
        "text": "也就是高麗菜從產地運上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/74.wav",
        "text": "它又要在我們旁邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/75.wav",
        "text": "把葉子拔下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/76.wav",
        "text": "然後再把這些垃圾送回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/77.wav",
        "text": "變成廢棄物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/78.wav",
        "text": "所以分級包裝一直以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/79.wav",
        "text": "但是效果好像不是很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/80.wav",
        "text": "特別是葉菜類的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/81.wav",
        "text": "葉菜類很差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/82.wav",
        "text": "這張照片就是你在推動所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/83.wav",
        "text": "棧板化規格化標準化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/84.wav",
        "text": "假設分級包裝做得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/85.wav",
        "text": "其實在淡季的時候可以外銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/86.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在因為沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/87.wav",
        "text": "所以常常高麗菜一顆10塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/88.wav",
        "text": "您接任部長之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/89.wav",
        "text": "推的效益是不是要寫一些KPI"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/90.wav",
        "text": "不然每次都說要看品項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/91.wav",
        "text": "要看農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/92.wav",
        "text": "農民現在幾乎沒有工人可以做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/93.wav",
        "text": "所以你怎麼樣推動分級包裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/94.wav",
        "text": "我想跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/95.wav",
        "text": "從我的思維裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/96.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很多進到批發市場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/97.wav",
        "text": "特別是有些葉菜類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/98.wav",
        "text": "要先處理的在產地端就要處理好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/99.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/100.wav",
        "text": "是不應該運到臺北來再運回去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/101.wav",
        "text": "我會對接到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/102.wav",
        "text": "從合作社場那邊先處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/103.wav",
        "text": "那有一些共同運銷的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/104.wav",
        "text": "我們希望一定要這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/105.wav",
        "text": "因為沒有強迫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/106.wav",
        "text": "也沒有相關的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/107.wav",
        "text": "農業部已經升格了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/108.wav",
        "text": "我們不能再像原始社會一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/109.wav",
        "text": "比較相關的先進國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/110.wav",
        "text": "其實分級包裝是很正常的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/111.wav",
        "text": "可是在我們這邊變成是很奇怪的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/112.wav",
        "text": "沒有標準化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/113.wav",
        "text": "所以就會看到現在北農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/114.wav",
        "text": "還是一大堆用人力在搬運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/115.wav",
        "text": "沒有用起重機在搬運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/116.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很原始的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/117.wav",
        "text": "我希望改建以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/118.wav",
        "text": "針對剛剛您所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/119.wav",
        "text": "不管是將來的拍賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/120.wav",
        "text": "或者是將來這些包裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/121.wav",
        "text": "以臺北為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/122.wav",
        "text": "然後把它提升上來好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/123.wav",
        "text": "好我們會朝這個方向來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/124.wav",
        "text": "這是2020年你自己在做的事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/125.wav",
        "text": "我希望現在接下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/126.wav",
        "text": "成為你未來的重要政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/127.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這也會對農民有一些幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/128.wav",
        "text": "讓他們的價錢好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/129.wav",
        "text": "讓他們的生計更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154375/130.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/0.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/1.wav",
        "text": "陳部長我想還是關心一下國人都非常重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/2.wav",
        "text": "的問題從去年到今年大家都想要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/3.wav",
        "text": "超思雞蛋弊案爭議到底為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/4.wav",
        "text": "去年9月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/5.wav",
        "text": "包括臺北新北桃園臺中高雄五個地檢署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/6.wav",
        "text": "都說有接獲民眾告發或是檢方的剪報分案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/7.wav",
        "text": "依食安法或是偽造文書五路齊發分案調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/8.wav",
        "text": "今天有平面媒體報導說九個月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/9.wav",
        "text": "都沒有約談任何相關人士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/10.wav",
        "text": "你自己也證實說你沒有被約談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/11.wav",
        "text": "我本人並沒有接受到約談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/12.wav",
        "text": "那你知道農業部有沒有相關人士有被約談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/13.wav",
        "text": "部長你覺得超思雞蛋這個爭議到現在一年多的時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/14.wav",
        "text": "到底對農業部的形象好或不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/15.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/16.wav",
        "text": "有人謀不臧那就查出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/17.wav",
        "text": "如果真的沒有那就還農業部清白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/18.wav",
        "text": "還辛苦的業務同仁清白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/19.wav",
        "text": "對這是我的原則所以是啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/20.wav",
        "text": "那怎麼會您自己也不關心也不瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/21.wav",
        "text": "沒有我強調的是檢調單位查處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/22.wav",
        "text": "如果發現有人不法我絕不會寬貸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/23.wav",
        "text": "但是如果沒有不法也要還我們同仁一個清白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/24.wav",
        "text": "是啊但九個月過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/25.wav",
        "text": "都還沒有讓國人釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/26.wav",
        "text": "相對的我要特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/27.wav",
        "text": "部長您的態度是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/28.wav",
        "text": "把事情釐清是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/29.wav",
        "text": "檢調單位還沒有確認之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/30.wav",
        "text": "有很多外界的聲音"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/31.wav",
        "text": "因為以農業部來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/32.wav",
        "text": "才更應該趕快水落石出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/33.wav",
        "text": "因為越滾越大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/34.wav",
        "text": "從陳吉仲部長到現在的你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/35.wav",
        "text": "一樣都是陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/36.wav",
        "text": "我覺得現在國人關注的重點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/37.wav",
        "text": "到底真相為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/38.wav",
        "text": "不管是超思雞蛋那時候花5.7億去做補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/39.wav",
        "text": "現在到底真相為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/40.wav",
        "text": "結果付款是B公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/41.wav",
        "text": "今天看到這樣的媒體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/42.wav",
        "text": "報導結果本席看到你回應媒體的是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/43.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望檢調儘速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/44.wav",
        "text": "所以看起來你沒有被約談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/45.wav",
        "text": "我是沒被約談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/46.wav",
        "text": "下面同仁呢就你瞭解也沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/47.wav",
        "text": "我沒有去問所以我不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/48.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有有沒有人知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/49.wav",
        "text": "我們同仁說目前沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/50.wav",
        "text": "也沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/51.wav",
        "text": "那看起來前部長陳吉仲也沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/52.wav",
        "text": "所以都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/53.wav",
        "text": "國人那麼關心的案件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/54.wav",
        "text": "結果檢調到現在連難怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/55.wav",
        "text": "媒體會用頭版頭來報導啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/56.wav",
        "text": "9個月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/57.wav",
        "text": "無進度嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/58.wav",
        "text": "\n部長我再請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/59.wav",
        "text": "因為採購生鮮雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/60.wav",
        "text": "帶殼雞蛋是屬於生鮮的農漁產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/61.wav",
        "text": "非屬採購法的採購標的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/62.wav",
        "text": "但是冷藏倉儲及雞蛋托運費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/63.wav",
        "text": "是全額補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/64.wav",
        "text": "依規定適用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/65.wav",
        "text": "但沒有用採購法辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/66.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/67.wav",
        "text": "從行政調查報告是這樣子顯示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/68.wav",
        "text": "是我們現在是要追回五成的補助款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/69.wav",
        "text": "適用政府採購法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/70.wav",
        "text": "你的理由是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/71.wav",
        "text": "會認為它應該用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/72.wav",
        "text": "但沒有用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/73.wav",
        "text": "我花30秒的時間說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/74.wav",
        "text": "就是當初畜產會在處理這個案子的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/75.wav",
        "text": "它認為因為雞蛋不適用政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/76.wav",
        "text": "後續的倉儲及運輸他們覺得是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/77.wav",
        "text": "因為相對進來少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/78.wav",
        "text": "它覺得應該是一批的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/79.wav",
        "text": "但是後來我們行政調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/80.wav",
        "text": "看起來是便宜對然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/81.wav",
        "text": "行政單位去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/82.wav",
        "text": "後面兩個應該要適用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/83.wav",
        "text": "根據這個東西我們會依法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/84.wav",
        "text": "所以照理講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/85.wav",
        "text": "我們想請教中央畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/86.wav",
        "text": "到底應不應該遵守採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/87.wav",
        "text": "它用自己的資金都不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/88.wav",
        "text": "只要牽涉到跟政府補助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/89.wav",
        "text": "才有所謂的適不適用政府採購法的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/90.wav",
        "text": "它的資金來源呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/91.wav",
        "text": "所以它有計畫上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/92.wav",
        "text": "我們有核計畫下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/93.wav",
        "text": "核計畫下去也算是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/94.wav",
        "text": "政府補助不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/95.wav",
        "text": "對所以說它不適用的時候就要追回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/96.wav",
        "text": "就要追回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/97.wav",
        "text": "好那我們來看一下去年的公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/98.wav",
        "text": "工程會已經明白確認了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/99.wav",
        "text": "冷凍蛋液及冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/100.wav",
        "text": "是冷凍處理非屬生鮮農漁產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/101.wav",
        "text": "適用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/102.wav",
        "text": "去年有什麼樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/103.wav",
        "text": "去年的狀況是畜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/104.wav",
        "text": "畜產會之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/105.wav",
        "text": "都是用巴西進口的冷凍蛋液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/106.wav",
        "text": "及冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/107.wav",
        "text": "不依政府採購法辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/108.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有依照政府採購法辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/109.wav",
        "text": "就直接來做採購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/110.wav",
        "text": "這是112年的嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/111.wav",
        "text": "20112年的部分是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/112.wav",
        "text": "都是畜產會先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/113.wav",
        "text": "用它自有資金處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/114.wav",
        "text": "我們後面的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/115.wav",
        "text": "核定補助的時候是在後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/116.wav",
        "text": "所以它不符合政府採購法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/117.wav",
        "text": "我們就給它50%以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/118.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有所謂的追繳問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/119.wav",
        "text": "是所以部長我們的冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/120.wav",
        "text": "及冷凍蛋液有給它50%以下嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/121.wav",
        "text": "沒有啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/122.wav",
        "text": "之前去年巴西進口的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/123.wav",
        "text": "冷凍蛋黃及冷凍蛋液也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/124.wav",
        "text": "直接讓它做採購啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/125.wav",
        "text": "你並沒有讓它去用採購法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/126.wav",
        "text": "它如果沒用採購法的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/127.wav",
        "text": "這個是去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/128.wav",
        "text": "本席現在拿出來的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/129.wav",
        "text": "是去年10月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/130.wav",
        "text": "審計長講說這些狀況要去釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/131.wav",
        "text": "三個月內調查完畢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/132.wav",
        "text": "目前調查狀況呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/133.wav",
        "text": "審計長那時候講說確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/134.wav",
        "text": "存在爭議待釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/135.wav",
        "text": "要先確認雞蛋是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/136.wav",
        "text": "生鮮漁農產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/137.wav",
        "text": "還有冷凍蛋液及冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/138.wav",
        "text": "是不是生鮮漁農產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/139.wav",
        "text": "就說我們在10月3日的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/140.wav",
        "text": "就問工程會到底冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/141.wav",
        "text": "及冷凍蛋液是不是農漁產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/142.wav",
        "text": "工程會說不是嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/143.wav",
        "text": "現在三個月過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/144.wav",
        "text": "我們到底有沒有去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/145.wav",
        "text": "有交回50%嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/146.wav",
        "text": "有低於50%嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/147.wav",
        "text": "冷凍蛋液經過公共工程委員會的說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/148.wav",
        "text": "然後只要是適用政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/149.wav",
        "text": "如果政府的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/150.wav",
        "text": "已經補助下去了我就會收回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/151.wav",
        "text": "如果還沒補助的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/152.wav",
        "text": "我一定低於50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/153.wav",
        "text": "是所以現在本席就要確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/154.wav",
        "text": "因為今天媒體已經報導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/155.wav",
        "text": "冷藏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/156.wav",
        "text": "倉儲及托櫃費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/157.wav",
        "text": "要收回50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/158.wav",
        "text": "我們現在要問過去補助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/159.wav",
        "text": "冷凍蛋黃冷凍蛋液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/160.wav",
        "text": "有沒有要去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/161.wav",
        "text": "100%也要收回50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/162.wav",
        "text": "我現在只問是不是一體適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/163.wav",
        "text": "對一定一體適用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/164.wav",
        "text": "就是112年部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/165.wav",
        "text": "如果它該適用政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/166.wav",
        "text": "卻沒適用的話就會追回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/167.wav",
        "text": "但如果它先買了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/168.wav",
        "text": "我們核定補助在後的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/169.wav",
        "text": "我就一定不會超過50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/170.wav",
        "text": "是所以這個就是重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/171.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以把資料釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/172.wav",
        "text": "因為之前就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/173.wav",
        "text": "有爆發中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/174.wav",
        "text": "或相關的冷凍蛋液及冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/175.wav",
        "text": "它沒有用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/176.wav",
        "text": "也直接用合約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/177.wav",
        "text": "就直接採購了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/178.wav",
        "text": "所以才會讓我們去年有這樣的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/179.wav",
        "text": "並且要求審計部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/180.wav",
        "text": "去做瞭解審計部說三個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/181.wav",
        "text": "要給資料到目前也是不了了之"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/182.wav",
        "text": "本席就直接請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/183.wav",
        "text": "因為你們已經講了冷凍倉儲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/184.wav",
        "text": "只要是符合採購法的追回50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/185.wav",
        "text": "一樣地冷凍蛋黃冷凍蛋液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/186.wav",
        "text": "符合採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/187.wav",
        "text": "的這您剛剛已經承認了工程會也發公文了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/188.wav",
        "text": "現在什麼時候要去釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/189.wav",
        "text": "到底過去有哪一些是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/190.wav",
        "text": "100%補助要追回50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/191.wav",
        "text": "我想委員是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/192.wav",
        "text": "可以給我一個禮拜的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/193.wav",
        "text": "讓畜產會把這個資料調出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/194.wav",
        "text": "一個禮拜的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/195.wav",
        "text": "去把它調出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/196.wav",
        "text": "所以包含冷凍蛋黃冷凍蛋液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/197.wav",
        "text": "對最主要就是冷凍蛋黃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/198.wav",
        "text": "符合該用採購法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/199.wav",
        "text": "我會把它挑出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154376/200.wav",
        "text": "是一個禮拜的時間請給本席及經濟委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/1.wav",
        "text": "這些瀕臨絕種的保育類動物被遊蕩犬咬死的新聞特別多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/2.wav",
        "text": "我有發現現在特別是路殺的部分其實穿山甲是排名第一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/3.wav",
        "text": "我不是說路殺我是說被遊蕩犬咬死"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/4.wav",
        "text": "遊蕩犬的部分其實石虎是比例滿高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/5.wav",
        "text": "去年（2023年）在保育類及所有野生動物被犬隻攻擊的案件裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/6.wav",
        "text": "都是近5年來的新高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/7.wav",
        "text": "這個數字代表了確實現在遊蕩犬的問題是越來越嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/8.wav",
        "text": "這個問題其實不是只是野生動物被咬死這麼簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/9.wav",
        "text": "很多科學研究也顯示目前犬隻跑到野外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/10.wav",
        "text": "之後健康狀況更差存活率不到一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/11.wav",
        "text": "所以變成犬隻與野生動物幾乎都是兩敗俱傷的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/12.wav",
        "text": "的是犬隻是你們動保司管理的對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/13.wav",
        "text": "野生動物保育是林保署對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/14.wav",
        "text": "都在農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/15.wav",
        "text": "所以部長針對這個問題你們打算怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/16.wav",
        "text": "我想針對這個部分動保司及林保署包括我們都曾經討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/17.wav",
        "text": "先做那個地區的犬隻調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/18.wav",
        "text": "這是今年5月18日的新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/19.wav",
        "text": "這個新聞上面寫著熱區移置遊蕩犬就是你剛剛說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/20.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/21.wav",
        "text": "試辦三個月沒下文為什麼這個新聞會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/22.wav",
        "text": "我可不可以請動保司司長說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/23.wav",
        "text": "年底臨時提了一個三個月期的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/24.wav",
        "text": "我們今年是併入整個流浪犬控制族群計畫裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/25.wav",
        "text": "所以並沒有暫停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/26.wav",
        "text": "而是針對這幾個地區特別地擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/27.wav",
        "text": "尤其是這幾個核心的縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/28.wav",
        "text": "司長如果你們確定接下來這些計畫是擴大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/29.wav",
        "text": "也沒有暫停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/30.wav",
        "text": "我覺得要跟外界說清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/31.wav",
        "text": "現在有很多擔心遊蕩犬的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/32.wav",
        "text": "都覺得為什麼農業部接下來沒有動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/33.wav",
        "text": "了我覺得對外說明清楚的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/34.wav",
        "text": "要趕快解釋清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/35.wav",
        "text": "我在外面一直看到這個新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/36.wav",
        "text": "大家都在傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/37.wav",
        "text": "了解我們會來說明清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/38.wav",
        "text": "特別是臺中南投跟苗栗地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/39.wav",
        "text": "如果你們要擴大做的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/40.wav",
        "text": "在態度上面我是肯定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/41.wav",
        "text": "但我也看了一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/42.wav",
        "text": "今年你們在石虎跟草鴞熱區的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/43.wav",
        "text": "也請教了一些專家學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/44.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也發現有不少可以改進的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/45.wav",
        "text": "第一個事情是在KPI的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/46.wav",
        "text": "部長你們年度目標寫遊蕩犬處置率80%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/47.wav",
        "text": "但我很好奇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/48.wav",
        "text": "如果100隻處置80隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/49.wav",
        "text": "但後面又再新增了100隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/50.wav",
        "text": "這個處置率還有什麼意義呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/51.wav",
        "text": "你們這並不是整體的母數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/52.wav",
        "text": "原本的100隻你處置80隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/53.wav",
        "text": "但你沒有去管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/54.wav",
        "text": "會不會有新的跑進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/55.wav",
        "text": "會不會有新的增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/56.wav",
        "text": "所以部長針對這個KPI"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/57.wav",
        "text": "你們覺得需不需要修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/58.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/59.wav",
        "text": "各單位比較細的這些KPI的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/60.wav",
        "text": "不只是這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/61.wav",
        "text": "還有其他的KPI"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/62.wav",
        "text": "我都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/63.wav",
        "text": "要嘛就是純粹一個數字的概念而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/64.wav",
        "text": "並沒有回應到我們最後的政策目的在哪邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/65.wav",
        "text": "所以我會要求很多後續他們在針對KPI的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/66.wav",
        "text": "一定要更充分去跟我們的政策目標做連結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/67.wav",
        "text": "部長我覺得這個很明顯是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/68.wav",
        "text": "在邏輯上面的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/69.wav",
        "text": "所以部長如果你覺得OK的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/70.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該都要一併的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/71.wav",
        "text": "至少我們可以從生態熱區先來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/72.wav",
        "text": "因為有蠻多的學者跟我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/73.wav",
        "text": "確實生態熱區跟人類聚集的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/74.wav",
        "text": "其實它的樣態是不太一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/75.wav",
        "text": "我覺得至少這可以先來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/76.wav",
        "text": "我們先來檢討KPI可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/77.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/78.wav",
        "text": "好部長我接下來也要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/79.wav",
        "text": "其實我們現在在法規上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/80.wav",
        "text": "關於飼主的責任是有明確規範的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/81.wav",
        "text": "不管是寵物登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/82.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都有法源依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/83.wav",
        "text": "但現在問題是每次我們跟動保司討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/84.wav",
        "text": "動保司就跟我們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/85.wav",
        "text": "因為人力不足雖然法規都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/86.wav",
        "text": "所以很難落實執法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/87.wav",
        "text": "這是現在的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/88.wav",
        "text": "可是我們明明看到遊蕩犬越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/89.wav",
        "text": "但是執法端卻一直說資源不足人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/90.wav",
        "text": "部長你覺得該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/91.wav",
        "text": "跟人事行政總處那邊去爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/92.wav",
        "text": "像動保法的動保人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/93.wav",
        "text": "這個是正常人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/94.wav",
        "text": "另外一個是用計畫人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/95.wav",
        "text": "我們現在變成是這些法規擺著不動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/96.wav",
        "text": "不會有人因為這個受罰部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/97.wav",
        "text": "部長我有一個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/98.wav",
        "text": "我們剛剛都講到生態熱區的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/99.wav",
        "text": "我們的執法就在生態熱區來優先執法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/100.wav",
        "text": "優先進行管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/101.wav",
        "text": "生態熱區的範圍當然比整體來說都小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/102.wav",
        "text": "也更聚集"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/103.wav",
        "text": "如果資源不足的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/104.wav",
        "text": "至少在生態熱區上面我們就按照法規來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/105.wav",
        "text": "你要有一定的宣導期我也贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/106.wav",
        "text": "你可以在生態熱區有幾個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/107.wav",
        "text": "一年的宣導期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/108.wav",
        "text": "讓大家都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/109.wav",
        "text": "我接下來開始要管理這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/110.wav",
        "text": "我也都同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/111.wav",
        "text": "可是我們不能把法規擺著都不動了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/112.wav",
        "text": "先從生態熱區開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/113.wav",
        "text": "包括你人力的投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/114.wav",
        "text": "資源的投入可以從這邊開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/115.wav",
        "text": "投入是一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/116.wav",
        "text": "對也要開始著手進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/117.wav",
        "text": "我知道也許整個臺灣的範圍很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/118.wav",
        "text": "你們人力確實不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/119.wav",
        "text": "但至少這些地方重點區域是可以開始的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/120.wav",
        "text": "這部分你要有個宣導期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/121.wav",
        "text": "我也不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/122.wav",
        "text": "這樣好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/123.wav",
        "text": "部長我們從這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/124.wav",
        "text": "我同意用這樣的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/125.wav",
        "text": "主席再給我1分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/126.wav",
        "text": "我們現在看到很多這些相關的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/127.wav",
        "text": "其實大家都抱怨農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/128.wav",
        "text": "有點像關起門來自己做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/129.wav",
        "text": "部長我是想要求我們這些相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/130.wav",
        "text": "包括資訊的公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/131.wav",
        "text": "包括相關計畫書成效的評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/132.wav",
        "text": "其實都應該定期的公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/133.wav",
        "text": "最後一個我是想要請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/134.wav",
        "text": "這是很多我們生態界的專家學者們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/135.wav",
        "text": "請我一定要跟你反映的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/136.wav",
        "text": "我們應該訂一個定期檢討的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/137.wav",
        "text": "這個定期檢討機制裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/138.wav",
        "text": "有關於資料的公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/139.wav",
        "text": "資訊的公開的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/140.wav",
        "text": "讓外部的學者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/141.wav",
        "text": "外部的各個專業者一起來參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/142.wav",
        "text": "而不會讓大家都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/143.wav",
        "text": "外面也不知道你在搞什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/144.wav",
        "text": "也拿不到數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/145.wav",
        "text": "拿不到資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/146.wav",
        "text": "可是外面只有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/147.wav",
        "text": "遊蕩犬的數字一直增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/148.wav",
        "text": "這麼多被咬死的新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/149.wav",
        "text": "很擔心啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/150.wav",
        "text": "部長可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/151.wav",
        "text": "一個資訊公開定期檢討的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/152.wav",
        "text": "看是要半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/153.wav",
        "text": "也許半年一個週期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/154.wav",
        "text": "或多少時間一個週期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/155.wav",
        "text": "讓大家可以參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/156.wav",
        "text": "這應該很簡單吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/157.wav",
        "text": "對我絕對同意這樣的作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/158.wav",
        "text": "不只是在流浪犬這些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/159.wav",
        "text": "其他地方其實也應該朝這方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/160.wav",
        "text": "特別是跟民眾有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/161.wav",
        "text": "部長可不可以用兩個月的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/162.wav",
        "text": "你剛才答應了我好幾件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/163.wav",
        "text": "這些事情給我相關的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/164.wav",
        "text": "在兩個月的時間內給我這些規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/165.wav",
        "text": "應該沒有問題吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154377/166.wav",
        "text": "可以好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/0.wav",
        "text": "主席麻煩請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/1.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/2.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/3.wav",
        "text": "上我真的覺得非常奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/4.wav",
        "text": "今年7月1號開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/5.wav",
        "text": "又要跟養雞協會合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/6.wav",
        "text": "去年的時候說要補助老母雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/7.wav",
        "text": "說要進口種雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/8.wav",
        "text": "那時候很多農民跟農業部講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/9.wav",
        "text": "進口太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/10.wav",
        "text": "就會造成產能過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/11.wav",
        "text": "農業部說沒關係先進再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/12.wav",
        "text": "我們農業部又要再花錢去殺老母雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/13.wav",
        "text": "到時候又缺蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/14.wav",
        "text": "我不知道部長能不能承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/15.wav",
        "text": "不會再造成缺蛋狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/16.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/17.wav",
        "text": "蛋雞場的產業鏈裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/18.wav",
        "text": "蛋農本來就在做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/19.wav",
        "text": "我們是提供誘因讓他加速老母雞的淘汰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/20.wav",
        "text": "去年鼓勵人家多進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/21.wav",
        "text": "然後今年又叫他加速去殺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/22.wav",
        "text": "進了一堆之後再花錢把它銷毀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/23.wav",
        "text": "這都是民脂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/24.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/25.wav",
        "text": "你如果認為沒有錯的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/26.wav",
        "text": "我是希望你可以檢討一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/27.wav",
        "text": "都是花人民納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/28.wav",
        "text": "把人民納稅錢一點一滴都浪費掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/29.wav",
        "text": "然後又會造成缺蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/30.wav",
        "text": "我希望農業部可以針對蛋的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/31.wav",
        "text": "你們仔細思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/32.wav",
        "text": "怎麼從源頭把它管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/33.wav",
        "text": "不是頭痛醫頭腳痛醫腳啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/34.wav",
        "text": "還是一樣我想要問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/35.wav",
        "text": "超思的問題畜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/36.wav",
        "text": "畜產會的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/37.wav",
        "text": "畜產會這個採購有沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/38.wav",
        "text": "農業部當初是說沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/39.wav",
        "text": "你們第一時間是說沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/40.wav",
        "text": "你們說因為畜產會是用自有資金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/41.wav",
        "text": "購買財物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/42.wav",
        "text": "所以沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/43.wav",
        "text": "畜產會我們調查不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/44.wav",
        "text": "結果現在被大家發現說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/45.wav",
        "text": "不是沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/46.wav",
        "text": "包括你自己剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/47.wav",
        "text": "跟其他委員的詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/48.wav",
        "text": "你都承認了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/49.wav",
        "text": "在冷鏈還有運費這一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/50.wav",
        "text": "他們是沒有用採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/51.wav",
        "text": "所以違法了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/52.wav",
        "text": "你現在又有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/53.wav",
        "text": "我不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/54.wav",
        "text": "到底農業部跟畜產會之間關係是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/55.wav",
        "text": "不會跟畜產會拒絕往來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/56.wav",
        "text": "你還會透過很多補助給它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/57.wav",
        "text": "去採購很多農產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/58.wav",
        "text": "你到底有沒有在監督它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/59.wav",
        "text": "你到底是怎麼管制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/60.wav",
        "text": "還有一開始第一時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/61.wav",
        "text": "為什麼是推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/62.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/63.wav",
        "text": "我們農業部是它的督導單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/64.wav",
        "text": "所以畜產會所有行政方面的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/65.wav",
        "text": "農業部都有權力去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/66.wav",
        "text": "做相關的調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/67.wav",
        "text": "你們一開始不是這樣講的喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/68.wav",
        "text": "你們農業部一開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/69.wav",
        "text": "面對外界質疑時說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/70.wav",
        "text": "畜產會是用自有資金買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/71.wav",
        "text": "管理的部分農業部是負責督導的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/72.wav",
        "text": "我們有權力去做相關行政查核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/73.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是沒問題的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/74.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/75.wav",
        "text": "畜產會如果有些產銷調節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/76.wav",
        "text": "他用自有資金先用了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/77.wav",
        "text": "跟農業部請款的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/78.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是符合政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/79.wav",
        "text": "就要用政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/80.wav",
        "text": "不符合政府採購法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/81.wav",
        "text": "我們就會用50%以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/82.wav",
        "text": "另外一類就是111年這一類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/83.wav",
        "text": "它是在年度先核計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/84.wav",
        "text": "不符合規範的我們錢就會收回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/85.wav",
        "text": "當然嘛可是你這個就是後見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/86.wav",
        "text": "理論上來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/87.wav",
        "text": "現在畜產會是來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/88.wav",
        "text": "國內大家缺蛋的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/89.wav",
        "text": "所以農業部才會補助它一筆錢讓它去採購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/90.wav",
        "text": "所以你先前就要跟它講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/91.wav",
        "text": "比如說要符合採購法規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/92.wav",
        "text": "蛋可以不用符合採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/93.wav",
        "text": "但是其他的運費冷鏈你要符合採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/94.wav",
        "text": "連這一點事情你們都無法督導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/95.wav",
        "text": "還要事後說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/96.wav",
        "text": "你來跟我請款的時候我少給一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/97.wav",
        "text": "我就覺得非常奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/98.wav",
        "text": "畜產會不是大部分的資金來源都是農業部嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/99.wav",
        "text": "這也都是人民的納稅錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/100.wav",
        "text": "你讓它少請了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/101.wav",
        "text": "它如果虧本的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/102.wav",
        "text": "很多時候農業部也還是要補助給它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/103.wav",
        "text": "所以為什麼不能事先解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/104.wav",
        "text": "一定要事後等這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/105.wav",
        "text": "這個事情已經被外界知道了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/106.wav",
        "text": "所以這個補助我們要減一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/107.wav",
        "text": "農業部這樣的態度非常消極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/108.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就是相關的這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/109.wav",
        "text": "補助案本身就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/110.wav",
        "text": "部長我只是想問你啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/111.wav",
        "text": "接下來還會不會發生一樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/112.wav",
        "text": "要解決國內的某一個農產品稀缺的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/113.wav",
        "text": "然後一樣讓它先去買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/114.wav",
        "text": "然後它不合法之後你再對它追繳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/115.wav",
        "text": "所以未來還會發生一樣的狀況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/116.wav",
        "text": "我想不是說不合法以後才去追繳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/117.wav",
        "text": "沒有符合採購法就是不合法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/118.wav",
        "text": "我一開始剛才有跟其他委員講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/119.wav",
        "text": "這個是畜產會本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/120.wav",
        "text": "在雞蛋的採購過程中的倉儲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/121.wav",
        "text": "他們是誤解的以為是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/122.wav",
        "text": "它是跟著雞蛋一條包裝的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/123.wav",
        "text": "所以後來他們瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/124.wav",
        "text": "部長理論上來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/125.wav",
        "text": "畜產會跟你的關係非常密切"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/126.wav",
        "text": "畜產會董事長是林聰賢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/127.wav",
        "text": "農業部都完全沒責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/128.wav",
        "text": "一副就是沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/129.wav",
        "text": "我就少給你一點錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/130.wav",
        "text": "好像所有責任都是畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/131.wav",
        "text": "應該不是這樣吧部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/132.wav",
        "text": "農業部對於畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/133.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有任何督導和管理責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/134.wav",
        "text": "我們負有督導的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/135.wav",
        "text": "有很多相關的行政疏失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/136.wav",
        "text": "當然過去的事情該追究就追究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/137.wav",
        "text": "我現在講的是未來呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/138.wav",
        "text": "因為我現在跟部長詢答的感覺是你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/139.wav",
        "text": "你覺得你都沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/140.wav",
        "text": "未來畜產會是不是一樣會有類似的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/141.wav",
        "text": "政府部門都要依法行事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/142.wav",
        "text": "相關的規範都要符合政府採購法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/143.wav",
        "text": "這是一個大原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/144.wav",
        "text": "我們不要繞圈圈了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/145.wav",
        "text": "是不是還是一樣放任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/146.wav",
        "text": "我們絕對不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/147.wav",
        "text": "我們已經在加強畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/148.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有把握未來對畜產會的監督到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/149.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會更積極地去監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/150.wav",
        "text": "有沒有人謀不臧是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/151.wav",
        "text": "因為現在檢調在查我就不臆測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/152.wav",
        "text": "但是我現在在問農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/153.wav",
        "text": "第二有關於超思和亮采的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/154.wav",
        "text": "到底查清楚沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/155.wav",
        "text": "為什麼畜產會跟亮采簽約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/156.wav",
        "text": "付錢卻付給超思為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/157.wav",
        "text": "思本身的私法人關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/158.wav",
        "text": "但是行政調查沒有辦法去調查他們私法人的關係包括委任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/159.wav",
        "text": "和債權關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/160.wav",
        "text": "所以我們移請檢調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/161.wav",
        "text": "你都沒辦法問畜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/162.wav",
        "text": "思這沒辦法問我們不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/163.wav",
        "text": "要附我們的事實證據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/164.wav",
        "text": "證據的部分要請檢調單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/165.wav",
        "text": "請問農業部有沒有去問畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/166.wav",
        "text": "對我來講我覺得他們是商業關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/167.wav",
        "text": "商業關係是私法人關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/168.wav",
        "text": "應該請檢調單位去釐清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/169.wav",
        "text": "所以農業部沒有問的意思你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/170.wav",
        "text": "外界關心的超思和亮采的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/171.wav",
        "text": "你都還沒有去釐清是這個意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/172.wav",
        "text": "這個是必須要釐清的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/173.wav",
        "text": "但是以政府部門的行政權沒辦法去釐清這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/174.wav",
        "text": "所以我們已經移請檢調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/175.wav",
        "text": "部長剛剛我跟你講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/176.wav",
        "text": "農業部和畜產會的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/177.wav",
        "text": "你要督導畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/178.wav",
        "text": "在採購要符合一定的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/179.wav",
        "text": "基本上跟A廠商簽約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/180.wav",
        "text": "卻付款給B廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/181.wav",
        "text": "這是非常罕見的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/182.wav",
        "text": "結果你站在一個督導的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/183.wav",
        "text": "連問為什麼它是這樣的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/184.wav",
        "text": "你都說跟你沒關係就推給司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/185.wav",
        "text": "農業部到底要怎麼去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/186.wav",
        "text": "我覺得委員要把事情分清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/187.wav",
        "text": "我剛才說的私法人關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/188.wav",
        "text": "是亮采和超思之間的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/189.wav",
        "text": "所以移請檢調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/190.wav",
        "text": "你是督導單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/191.wav",
        "text": "你要不要做而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/192.wav",
        "text": "我真的不相信農業部每年補助那麼多錢給畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/193.wav",
        "text": "但所有人都看得出來農業部對於畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/194.wav",
        "text": "就是這個態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/195.wav",
        "text": "連大家這麼關心超思和亮采的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/196.wav",
        "text": "那你要怎麼去督導畜產會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/197.wav",
        "text": "我們在新聞稿裡面就有把委任關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/198.wav",
        "text": "部長既然這個問題大家這麼關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/199.wav",
        "text": "你就要去查我希望是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/200.wav",
        "text": "國人也希望知道真相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/201.wav",
        "text": "農業部不查我覺得是失職"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154378/202.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/0.wav",
        "text": "有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/2.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/3.wav",
        "text": "昨天在討論這件事情的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/4.wav",
        "text": "能夠送到立法院審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/5.wav",
        "text": "這個其實要打一個問號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/6.wav",
        "text": "畢竟MOU是個意向書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/7.wav",
        "text": "按照條約締結法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/8.wav",
        "text": "它並不是一個協定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/9.wav",
        "text": "既然大家覺得要審查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/10.wav",
        "text": "我們也尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/11.wav",
        "text": "就這件事情來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/12.wav",
        "text": "有沒有G2G之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/13.wav",
        "text": "不知道在這件事情上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/14.wav",
        "text": "外交部有沒有跟勞動部說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/15.wav",
        "text": "如果今天我們在這邊修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/16.wav",
        "text": "因為不能直接修改文字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/17.wav",
        "text": "只能整個退回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/18.wav",
        "text": "退回之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/19.wav",
        "text": "不知道那個時候有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/20.wav",
        "text": "跟勞動部說明這樣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/21.wav",
        "text": "當然尊重立法院的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/22.wav",
        "text": "審查完成之後也是准予備查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/23.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們都有跟勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/24.wav",
        "text": "滿多人並沒有特別的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/25.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都跟國防外交有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/26.wav",
        "text": "所以不是每一個人都關心臺印之間的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/27.wav",
        "text": "因為之前臺印之間有講到3S"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/28.wav",
        "text": "這一次在他們的政府方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/29.wav",
        "text": "我們臺印的關係也是不斷的在加溫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/30.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得這算是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/31.wav",
        "text": "蠻重要的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/32.wav",
        "text": "希望以後外交部能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/33.wav",
        "text": "因為畢竟昨天都不是外交部回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/34.wav",
        "text": "都是勞動部在回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/35.wav",
        "text": "他們能夠做一些勞動相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/36.wav",
        "text": "社會影響力評估這沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/37.wav",
        "text": "但對於外交的那些評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/38.wav",
        "text": "可能需要外交部的協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/39.wav",
        "text": "再來就是今天的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/40.wav",
        "text": "關於聯合國相關的組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/41.wav",
        "text": "當然我們最近爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/42.wav",
        "text": "也越來越高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/43.wav",
        "text": "還是跟2758號有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/44.wav",
        "text": "還有歐洲不斷的用2758號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/45.wav",
        "text": "來幫我們做解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/46.wav",
        "text": "這個是因為我們在同盟關係之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/47.wav",
        "text": "也是外交部的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/48.wav",
        "text": "現在外交部也是要積極去反制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/49.wav",
        "text": "因為中國一直想要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/50.wav",
        "text": "把2758號解釋成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/51.wav",
        "text": "他們想要的樣貌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/52.wav",
        "text": "現在這個反制措施具體來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/53.wav",
        "text": "有哪一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/54.wav",
        "text": "當然除了美國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/55.wav",
        "text": "做了法律的研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/56.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼樣去擴大宣傳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/57.wav",
        "text": "跟第三方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/58.wav",
        "text": "所謂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/59.wav",
        "text": "我想這個不只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/60.wav",
        "text": "由上而下且是全面性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/61.wav",
        "text": "2758號決議其實被"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/62.wav",
        "text": "扭曲誤用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/63.wav",
        "text": "這些事情很多國家都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/64.wav",
        "text": "所以並沒有限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/65.wav",
        "text": "臺灣參加國際組織或是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/66.wav",
        "text": "其他國家跟我們建交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/67.wav",
        "text": "這些都是開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/68.wav",
        "text": "的因為它只處理了蔣介石"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/69.wav",
        "text": "政權的代表它甚至沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/70.wav",
        "text": "觸及到臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/71.wav",
        "text": "所以臺灣到底能不能做什麼事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/72.wav",
        "text": "基於主權都可以跟臺灣交往"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/73.wav",
        "text": "國際組織也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/74.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長這個是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/75.wav",
        "text": "正面的論述就是說我們要怎麼去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/76.wav",
        "text": "告訴大家這個事實是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/77.wav",
        "text": "然後我們的邦交國怎麼去幫我們講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/78.wav",
        "text": "他們會不斷的在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/79.wav",
        "text": "今年的香格里拉會議他們一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/80.wav",
        "text": "臺灣主權的一些論述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/81.wav",
        "text": "他們每一次這種論述出來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/82.wav",
        "text": "當然我們跟盟友之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/83.wav",
        "text": "要選擇什麼時機去講2758號決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/84.wav",
        "text": "這是一個但另外一個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/85.wav",
        "text": "每一次中國在誤用2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/86.wav",
        "text": "號的時候我們除了能夠在社群媒體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/87.wav",
        "text": "上面發聲明之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/88.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能讓比如我們跟盟友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/89.wav",
        "text": "之間的聲明在時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/90.wav",
        "text": "上跟這個更為切合因為以中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/91.wav",
        "text": "目前來講會做這些事情的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/92.wav",
        "text": "大概都是那幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/93.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望外交部在這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/94.wav",
        "text": "上面能夠更快速的去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/95.wav",
        "text": "我昨天在跟國防部也有講到相關的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/96.wav",
        "text": "國防部到底要怎麼在第一時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/97.wav",
        "text": "怎麼讓人民知道我覺得現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/98.wav",
        "text": "好像看起來是越來越重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/99.wav",
        "text": "是一方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/100.wav",
        "text": "除了美國以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/101.wav",
        "text": "當然也影響很多友盟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/102.wav",
        "text": "比如G7的一些國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/103.wav",
        "text": "另外美國其實在這次WHA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/104.wav",
        "text": "上面也在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/105.wav",
        "text": "反制中國對2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/106.wav",
        "text": "號決議的扭曲所以這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/107.wav",
        "text": "作用力跟反作用力另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/108.wav",
        "text": "我特別跟很多來臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/109.wav",
        "text": "事實上是為它的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/110.wav",
        "text": "武力犯臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/111.wav",
        "text": "的基礎這是法律戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/112.wav",
        "text": "所以我們越是不去回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/113.wav",
        "text": "去破解這2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/114.wav",
        "text": "號決議的話他們越會把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/115.wav",
        "text": "的內政臺海變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/116.wav",
        "text": "中國的內海所以大家一聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/117.wav",
        "text": "就覺得這不是單獨法律爭議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/118.wav",
        "text": "的問題這是中共在為武力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/119.wav",
        "text": "併臺做法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/120.wav",
        "text": "基礎的準備大家都會覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/121.wav",
        "text": "這必須要我們一起來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/122.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣去回應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/123.wav",
        "text": "所以不只是參加國際組織凡涉及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/124.wav",
        "text": "的都會跟2758號決議有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/125.wav",
        "text": "就像九二共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/126.wav",
        "text": "就沒有什麼共識啊是後來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/127.wav",
        "text": "發明的2000年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/128.wav",
        "text": "們塑造一個稻草人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/129.wav",
        "text": "2758號決議我覺得2758"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/130.wav",
        "text": "號決議某種程度是中共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/131.wav",
        "text": "虛構的七一共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/132.wav",
        "text": "1971年那九二共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/133.wav",
        "text": "就是1992年又虛構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/134.wav",
        "text": "了另外一個共識他們用這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/135.wav",
        "text": "一個決議共識來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/136.wav",
        "text": "將武力犯臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/137.wav",
        "text": "這個就不是單獨只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/138.wav",
        "text": "它是涉及到混合戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/139.wav",
        "text": "奠定基礎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/140.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長因為提到法律戰這一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/141.wav",
        "text": "我們都是感同身受"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/142.wav",
        "text": "而且非常重要的一點是的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/143.wav",
        "text": "國際上很多的盟友對於法律戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/144.wav",
        "text": "（legal warfare）的概念並不是那麼清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/145.wav",
        "text": "但它偏偏寫在解放軍的教科書上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/146.wav",
        "text": "說這就是他們發動戰爭的一種方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/147.wav",
        "text": "所以讓盟友理解法律戰的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/148.wav",
        "text": "框架我認為是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/149.wav",
        "text": "他們最近才跟菲律賓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/150.wav",
        "text": "也弄了一個幽靈協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/151.wav",
        "text": "就是對方到底簽協議的人在哪裡都不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/152.wav",
        "text": "但他宣稱有這個協議存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/153.wav",
        "text": "一樣的事情一定也還會在臺灣發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/154.wav",
        "text": "切到下一個問題剛好他們公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/155.wav",
        "text": "布懲治臺獨的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/156.wav",
        "text": "臺獨分子可以處以死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/157.wav",
        "text": "什麼等等之類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/158.wav",
        "text": "這一個可能跟陸委會比較相關我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/159.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊很快速的問一下外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/160.wav",
        "text": "因為這個是廣泛的適用在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/161.wav",
        "text": "他們所謂的臺獨分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/162.wav",
        "text": "這些人有可能在海外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/163.wav",
        "text": "那在海外這些人可能有些國家有一些引渡條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/164.wav",
        "text": "雖然政治犯原則上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/165.wav",
        "text": "不引渡的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/166.wav",
        "text": "但是中國到底會做出什麼事情來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/167.wav",
        "text": "以及跟他友好的國家會做出什麼事情來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/168.wav",
        "text": "我們不敢擔保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/169.wav",
        "text": "所以就變成外交部這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/170.wav",
        "text": "然後還有風險的評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/171.wav",
        "text": "不知道開始了沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/172.wav",
        "text": "是我們有開過國安高層的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/173.wav",
        "text": "對於中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/174.wav",
        "text": "因為有涉及一些跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/175.wav",
        "text": "中國有簽訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/176.wav",
        "text": "司法互助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/177.wav",
        "text": "跟引渡條約的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/178.wav",
        "text": "國家甚至其中有相當一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/179.wav",
        "text": "有一中原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/180.wav",
        "text": "在建交公報裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/181.wav",
        "text": "刑事犯罪像詐騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/182.wav",
        "text": "這些就是我們特別要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/183.wav",
        "text": "注意的所以我們已經有訓令外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/184.wav",
        "text": "要去跟當地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/185.wav",
        "text": "有任何的事態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/186.wav",
        "text": "發生我們的處置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/187.wav",
        "text": "也提高警覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/188.wav",
        "text": "跨境鎮壓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/189.wav",
        "text": "傷害到國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/190.wav",
        "text": "海警法也不只是對臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/191.wav",
        "text": "他們對於相當多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/192.wav",
        "text": "國家都是以他們自己的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/193.wav",
        "text": "法律在做國際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/194.wav",
        "text": "灰色地帶或混合戰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/195.wav",
        "text": "這個我們也要跟國際"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/196.wav",
        "text": "做好溝通這不是單獨對臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/197.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長最後提醒一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/198.wav",
        "text": "因為時間到了就是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/199.wav",
        "text": "趕快可以給海外的臺灣人一些指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/200.wav",
        "text": "讓他們知道可能的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/201.wav",
        "text": "實有一個做法他們可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/202.wav",
        "text": "先用詐欺的方式或者任何其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/203.wav",
        "text": "罪名先引渡等到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/204.wav",
        "text": "中國之後再轉換罪名把人變成政治犯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/205.wav",
        "text": "這種事情也蠻常見的所以可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/206.wav",
        "text": "也必須告知國人這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/207.wav",
        "text": "關於後面外館的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/208.wav",
        "text": "我相信今天也會有很多人問我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/209.wav",
        "text": "今天時間不夠了那我就先講到這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154379/210.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/0.wav",
        "text": "今天的發言時間是4加6分鐘還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/1.wav",
        "text": "我都很按照時間秩序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/2.wav",
        "text": "時間到我就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/3.wav",
        "text": "怕會影響到下一個同仁的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/4.wav",
        "text": "時間到一直不下來一直問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/5.wav",
        "text": "同僚罪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/6.wav",
        "text": "農業部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/7.wav",
        "text": "我們再請陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/8.wav",
        "text": "蛋的問題趕快處理好脫離這個戰場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/9.wav",
        "text": "蛋的問題要趕快處理好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/10.wav",
        "text": "如果有不對就改進如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/11.wav",
        "text": "你們當然要反駁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/12.wav",
        "text": "實論述你們就要強烈反駁對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/13.wav",
        "text": "你要瞭解為什麼蛋的問題會一直循環"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/14.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能要優化一點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/15.wav",
        "text": "預測就會失準就會變成產銷失調"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/16.wav",
        "text": "所以在生產預測機制是不是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/17.wav",
        "text": "能夠根據過去的經驗運用大數據"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/18.wav",
        "text": "現在不是有很多AI可以運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/19.wav",
        "text": "不要每次產銷失調的時候就是補助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/20.wav",
        "text": "一直在循環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/21.wav",
        "text": "到底問題出在哪裡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/22.wav",
        "text": "你們可以運用人工智慧（AI）"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/23.wav",
        "text": "部長你的看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/24.wav",
        "text": "過去的調查有很多盲點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/25.wav",
        "text": "每個月的需求量"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/26.wav",
        "text": "老母雞的淘汰是目前"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/27.wav",
        "text": "是有些蛋農並不瞭解生產效率提高"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/28.wav",
        "text": "他還是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/29.wav",
        "text": "所以我們這次是利用獎勵的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/30.wav",
        "text": "讓他加速淘汰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/31.wav",
        "text": "整個機制我們會再去分析"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/32.wav",
        "text": "這種狀況發生的原因在哪裡"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/33.wav",
        "text": "需求力拉不起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/34.wav",
        "text": "拉不起來是因為它的價格沒有下降的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/35.wav",
        "text": "你們瞭解問題要提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/36.wav",
        "text": "政策解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/37.wav",
        "text": "政府要會做事政府是要解決問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/38.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/39.wav",
        "text": "今天的主題是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/40.wav",
        "text": "農業移工政策改善"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/41.wav",
        "text": "你們提出了精進作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/42.wav",
        "text": "必須要有一個時間表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/43.wav",
        "text": "精進作為有兩個面向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/44.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/45.wav",
        "text": "減省人力需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/46.wav",
        "text": "供給面增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/47.wav",
        "text": "是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/48.wav",
        "text": "你們的精進作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/49.wav",
        "text": "你們要有時間表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/50.wav",
        "text": "你們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/51.wav",
        "text": "跟相關的單位"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/52.wav",
        "text": "有結論"
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        "text": "按照農業人力需求"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/54.wav",
        "text": "向勞動部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/55.wav",
        "text": "提案申請增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/56.wav",
        "text": "農糧畜牧產業的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/57.wav",
        "text": "農業移工員額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/58.wav",
        "text": "請勞動部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/59.wav",
        "text": "你們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/60.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的1萬2,000人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/61.wav",
        "text": "現在是800多人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/62.wav",
        "text": "我們已經啟動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/63.wav",
        "text": "這個評估劍及履及已"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/64.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候要提"
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    {
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        "text": "提出多少員額"
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        "text": "我們在7月的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/67.wav",
        "text": "就會提出去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/68.wav",
        "text": "這些都要敘明清楚"
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        "text": "有需求的單位瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/70.wav",
        "text": "你們已經做了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/71.wav",
        "text": "另外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/72.wav",
        "text": "季節性缺工問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/73.wav",
        "text": "很多農會都不知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/74.wav",
        "text": "是跨區還是跨市"
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    {
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        "text": "跨縣市都可以"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/76.wav",
        "text": "有南工北調嗎"
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        "text": "鄰近的縣市為主"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/78.wav",
        "text": "因為牽涉到交通的問題"
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        "text": "所以你要講清楚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/80.wav",
        "text": "推動外籍移工跨區"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/81.wav",
        "text": "試辦計畫上路了沒"
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        "text": "現在開始在引進移工了"
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        "text": "所以你要把這個作法"
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        "text": "讓所有的需求單位瞭解"
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        "text": "不然很多政策"
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        "text": "雖然是立意良善"
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        "text": "我們有哪些有效的政策"
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        "text": "所以這部分"
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        "text": "你們要加強宣導"
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        "text": "或者是農會組織"
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        "text": "農場"
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        "text": "加強去宣導"
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        "text": "所以很多政策"
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        "text": "就是你們缺乏宣傳"
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    {
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        "text": "本勞跟外勞的核配比"
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    {
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        "text": "我開過記者會"
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        "text": "農業缺工"
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        "text": "是一個存在已久的問題"
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        "text": "但是你拿出來的對策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/100.wav",
        "text": "並沒有辦法有效解決"
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        "text": "如果能有效解決"
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        "text": "就不會一直缺工"
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        "text": "這代表你們政策失靈"
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        "text": "0人以下事業單位核配比"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/105.wav",
        "text": "一般農民團體相同"
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        "text": "這部分什麼時候會上路"
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        "text": "7月的會議當中會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/108.wav",
        "text": "中會一併提出來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/109.wav",
        "text": "然後你說減省人力需求"
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        "text": "每一鄉鎮都要有農機Uber"
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        "text": "什麼時候上路"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/112.wav",
        "text": "4年之內會全部的"
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        "text": "一鄉鎮一Uber"
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        "text": "但是2年"
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        "text": "一鄉鎮一Uber"
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        "text": "對就是重大的產業區"
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        "text": "重要的產區"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/118.wav",
        "text": "裡面一鄉鎮一Uber"
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        "text": "我以為你"
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    {
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        "text": "連臺北市信義區都要"
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        "text": "重要的農業生產區才有"
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        "text": "你不要每鄉鎮都成立"
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        "text": "主要的"
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        "text": "不是農業縣"
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        "text": "所有的"
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        "text": "對不對"
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    {
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        "text": "臺南市"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/128.wav",
        "text": "屏東縣"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/129.wav",
        "text": "有哪些鄉鎮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/130.wav",
        "text": "所謂的農機Uber"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/131.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以上路"
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        "text": "什麼時候可以"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/133.wav",
        "text": "你要講清楚"
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        "text": "瞭解"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/135.wav",
        "text": "瞭解"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/136.wav",
        "text": "才在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/137.wav",
        "text": "兩三個禮拜前確認"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/138.wav",
        "text": "每一區的東西"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/139.wav",
        "text": "東西現在已經有15團了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/140.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/141.wav",
        "text": "針對重要的產區"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/142.wav",
        "text": "去擴大力道"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/143.wav",
        "text": "有政策要有效率"
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        "text": "而且也要有效果"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/145.wav",
        "text": "是"
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        "text": "雙效合一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/147.wav",
        "text": "人民才有感"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/148.wav",
        "text": "瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/149.wav",
        "text": "農業相關系所的招生狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/150.wav",
        "text": "人文相關系所都受到影響"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/151.wav",
        "text": "大家都往AI相關產業去"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/152.wav",
        "text": "就學"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/153.wav",
        "text": "很多大學的招生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/154.wav",
        "text": "會不會影響到"
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    {
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        "text": "農業相關系所的招生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/156.wav",
        "text": "我想"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/157.wav",
        "text": "會有一些影響"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/158.wav",
        "text": "今年的狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/159.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有去瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/160.wav",
        "text": "我們曾經跟"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/161.wav",
        "text": "大學的老師"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/162.wav",
        "text": "AI的部分可能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/163.wav",
        "text": "你們就預測"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/164.wav",
        "text": "未來10年"
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        "text": "我們"
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        "text": "農業相關系所的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/167.wav",
        "text": "下降比率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/168.wav",
        "text": "人數的比率"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/169.wav",
        "text": "這個都要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/170.wav",
        "text": "有10年期的計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/171.wav",
        "text": "按照這個"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/172.wav",
        "text": "有哪些對策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/173.wav",
        "text": "永新漁港"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/174.wav",
        "text": "張署長也在永新漁港"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/175.wav",
        "text": "當然是老舊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/176.wav",
        "text": "海洋局提出這個計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/177.wav",
        "text": "我也去看"
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        "text": "對漁民"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/179.wav",
        "text": "對漁業都有很大的幫助"
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        "text": "署長和陳部長"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/181.wav",
        "text": "能夠全力支持"
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        "text": "我們確定會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/183.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/184.wav",
        "text": "因為市政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/185.wav",
        "text": "地方政府比較沒有錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/186.wav",
        "text": "我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/187.wav",
        "text": "我們會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/188.wav",
        "text": "所以中央"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/189.wav",
        "text": "特別是漁港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/190.wav",
        "text": "跟漁民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/191.wav",
        "text": "漁業有相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/192.wav",
        "text": "都要加強補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/193.wav",
        "text": "我們會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/194.wav",
        "text": "和整個漁港的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154380/195.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/0.wav",
        "text": "請林部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/1.wav",
        "text": "請部長部長今天我們委員會討論的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/2.wav",
        "text": "這上面的一些進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/3.wav",
        "text": "率團到日內瓦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/4.wav",
        "text": "這一團非常非常大的肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/5.wav",
        "text": "因為也有很多成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/6.wav",
        "text": "新的分裂國家的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/7.wav",
        "text": "把推動臺灣加入國際組織"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/8.wav",
        "text": "也納入了所謂分裂國家的規定裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/9.wav",
        "text": "甚至列為所謂懲戒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/10.wav",
        "text": "的臺獨分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/11.wav",
        "text": "當然我們後來看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/12.wav",
        "text": "它其實針對的只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/13.wav",
        "text": "極少數的臺獨分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/14.wav",
        "text": "那如果綜合把這幾個資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/15.wav",
        "text": "江啟臣副院長擔心了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/16.wav",
        "text": "看起來江副院長可能現在是北京"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/17.wav",
        "text": "新的認知下面的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/18.wav",
        "text": "極少數臺獨分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/19.wav",
        "text": "可是接下來江副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/20.wav",
        "text": "還是肩負著很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/21.wav",
        "text": "國會外交的任務而"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/22.wav",
        "text": "而現在看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/23.wav",
        "text": "在新的分裂國家規定裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/24.wav",
        "text": "有提到甚至要判死刑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/25.wav",
        "text": "還可以缺席審判"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/26.wav",
        "text": "江副院長接下來要扮演這麼多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/27.wav",
        "text": "有沒有什麼保護他的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/28.wav",
        "text": "我們會請外館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/29.wav",
        "text": "對於我們國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/30.wav",
        "text": "尤其到國外涉及到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/31.wav",
        "text": "極少數臺獨分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/32.wav",
        "text": "因為它現在做了一個定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/33.wav",
        "text": "因為它選擇性地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/34.wav",
        "text": "所以都有這個風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/35.wav",
        "text": "我們也都要做好預防和因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/36.wav",
        "text": "不管是國會外交上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/37.wav",
        "text": "像院長副院長動見觀瞻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/38.wav",
        "text": "接下來他們還會再推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/39.wav",
        "text": "臺灣很多加入國際組織的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/40.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們的院長副院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/41.wav",
        "text": "也不會因此就放棄了這些工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/42.wav",
        "text": "可是這都會被列入中共"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/43.wav",
        "text": "甚至要懲戒的範疇裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/44.wav",
        "text": "也可以給予他們多一點的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/45.wav",
        "text": "剛剛其實有幾位委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/46.wav",
        "text": "也有問到關於民主基金會的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/47.wav",
        "text": "我想民主基金會的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/48.wav",
        "text": "我們從2月討論到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/49.wav",
        "text": "其實現在大家都很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/50.wav",
        "text": "過去在野黨一直說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/51.wav",
        "text": "有沒有要卡韓院長的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/52.wav",
        "text": "其實我們一直說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/53.wav",
        "text": "從執政黨的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/54.wav",
        "text": "卡韓院長的選項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/55.wav",
        "text": "那剛剛有很多委員問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/56.wav",
        "text": "韓院長提出來的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/57.wav",
        "text": "部長我們有要卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/58.wav",
        "text": "韓院長所提名的人選的意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/59.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/60.wav",
        "text": "是一個財團法人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/61.wav",
        "text": "它有組織章程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/62.wav",
        "text": "所以都是依章程來辦事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/63.wav",
        "text": "就是尊重董事會對人事的決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/64.wav",
        "text": "長你也是民主基金會的當然董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/65.wav",
        "text": "那我要說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/66.wav",
        "text": "當然我們沒有必要去卡任何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/67.wav",
        "text": "潛在可能是執行長的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/68.wav",
        "text": "我們這個態度是很清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/69.wav",
        "text": "但我想再一次的重申"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/70.wav",
        "text": "現在的董事長就是韓國瑜院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/71.wav",
        "text": "有提名權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/72.wav",
        "text": "當然董事會會有所謂的同意權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/73.wav",
        "text": "這個同意權裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/74.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很關鍵的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/75.wav",
        "text": "我還是要說一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/76.wav",
        "text": "關於民主基金會的人事問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/77.wav",
        "text": "是一個責任政治的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/78.wav",
        "text": "它不是一個政黨之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/79.wav",
        "text": "怎麼分贓的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/80.wav",
        "text": "所以我們很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/81.wav",
        "text": "在民主基金會的議題上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/82.wav",
        "text": "我們是用朝野合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/83.wav",
        "text": "來去思考這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/84.wav",
        "text": "其實是當然董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/85.wav",
        "text": "但我們也遵循慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/86.wav",
        "text": "所以國會議長現在是董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/87.wav",
        "text": "那這部分我們給予"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/88.wav",
        "text": "非常非常大的尊重跟尊敬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/89.wav",
        "text": "但同時我覺得一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/90.wav",
        "text": "我一直在強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/91.wav",
        "text": "關於民主基金會的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/92.wav",
        "text": "重點是這個執行長的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/93.wav",
        "text": "能不能夠貫徹總統的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/94.wav",
        "text": "外交策略方針的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/95.wav",
        "text": "而總統在國際上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/96.wav",
        "text": "也很清楚把臺灣跟中國的定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/97.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也說得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/98.wav",
        "text": "就是中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/99.wav",
        "text": "跟中華人民共和國互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/100.wav",
        "text": "我們真的不希望到時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/101.wav",
        "text": "其實執行長也要來備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/102.wav",
        "text": "結果未來執行長在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/103.wav",
        "text": "跟外交部長一起備詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/104.wav",
        "text": "一個主張中華民國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/105.wav",
        "text": "跟中華人民共和國互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/106.wav",
        "text": "另外一個主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/107.wav",
        "text": "九二共識一個中國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/108.wav",
        "text": "這兩個主張假如互相扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/109.wav",
        "text": "其實絕對會對我們的外交政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/110.wav",
        "text": "有非常非常大的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/111.wav",
        "text": "部長同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/112.wav",
        "text": "是因為其實所謂的民主基金會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/113.wav",
        "text": "是廣義的二軌外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/114.wav",
        "text": "那就是有一軌外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/115.wav",
        "text": "軌外交就是政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/116.wav",
        "text": "尤其是外交部的外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/117.wav",
        "text": "如果二軌外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/118.wav",
        "text": "跟一軌外交打架的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/119.wav",
        "text": "這不但沒有幫忙一軌外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/120.wav",
        "text": "而且是雙頭馬車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/121.wav",
        "text": "我沒有針對個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/122.wav",
        "text": "我是說如果如同剛剛委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/123.wav",
        "text": "對於總統的外交政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/124.wav",
        "text": "因為他要負全責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/125.wav",
        "text": "不支持的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/126.wav",
        "text": "那這個當然就委員上次也質詢過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/127.wav",
        "text": "這個會是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/128.wav",
        "text": "涉及到董事會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/129.wav",
        "text": "在行使同意權的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/130.wav",
        "text": "所關切的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/131.wav",
        "text": "是所以我要說的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/132.wav",
        "text": "我們要表達很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/133.wav",
        "text": "我們絕對沒有想要去卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/134.wav",
        "text": "潛在任何可能的執行長人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/135.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/136.wav",
        "text": "但其實我們希望要求的事情就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/137.wav",
        "text": "讓一軌外交跟二軌外交的方針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/138.wav",
        "text": "跟原則能夠互相吻合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/139.wav",
        "text": "不會互相扞格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/140.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是一個很重要的原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/141.wav",
        "text": "對我補充一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/142.wav",
        "text": "一軌二軌都要朝同一個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/143.wav",
        "text": "這是很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/144.wav",
        "text": "跟中華人民共和國互不隸屬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/145.wav",
        "text": "其實是得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/146.wav",
        "text": "臺灣主流社會認可的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/147.wav",
        "text": "所以任何一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/148.wav",
        "text": "要來擔任執行長的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/149.wav",
        "text": "我認為他都要能夠認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/150.wav",
        "text": "跟貫徹這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/151.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這是我們唯一的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/152.wav",
        "text": "至少是我個人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/153.wav",
        "text": "因為委員也是董事嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/154.wav",
        "text": "所以在董事會也曾經表達過意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/155.wav",
        "text": "我不是董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/156.wav",
        "text": "我不是董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/157.wav",
        "text": "但我說我作為一個國會議員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/158.wav",
        "text": "外交及國防委員會的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/159.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得這是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/160.wav",
        "text": "責任政治的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/161.wav",
        "text": "因為所有的外交成果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/162.wav",
        "text": "最後都還是總統要負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/163.wav",
        "text": "這是為什麼大家一直說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/164.wav",
        "text": "執行長的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/165.wav",
        "text": "要尊重總統最重要的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/166.wav",
        "text": "尊重總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/167.wav",
        "text": "不是因為總統比較大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/168.wav",
        "text": "是因為總統要為外交政策負責"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/169.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/170.wav",
        "text": "希望外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/171.wav",
        "text": "包括部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/172.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊要把握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/173.wav",
        "text": "到時候看到兩位一個部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/174.wav",
        "text": "一個執行長到這邊備詢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/175.wav",
        "text": "結果講出互相打架的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/176.wav",
        "text": "那真的大家不知道該怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/177.wav",
        "text": "這部分還是希望部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/178.wav",
        "text": "能夠做出這樣的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/179.wav",
        "text": "而且我覺得這也是一個合理的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/180.wav",
        "text": "以上好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/181.wav",
        "text": "我接下來有幾個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/182.wav",
        "text": "想要來跟部長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/183.wav",
        "text": "其實部長今天有講到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/184.wav",
        "text": "跨境鎮壓的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/185.wav",
        "text": "對於跨境鎮壓的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/186.wav",
        "text": "其實也很關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/187.wav",
        "text": "相關的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/188.wav",
        "text": "還是要請部長提供給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/189.wav",
        "text": "因為我們有旅居丹麥的國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/190.wav",
        "text": "被標記為中國公民的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/191.wav",
        "text": "那我當時有請他針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/192.wav",
        "text": "我們國人到底會有什麼生活的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/193.wav",
        "text": "希望提交報告給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/194.wav",
        "text": "但目前這個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/195.wav",
        "text": "其實還沒有給我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/196.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/197.wav",
        "text": "我在當時其實有請外交部去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/198.wav",
        "text": "哪些國家把我國居留證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/199.wav",
        "text": "標記為中國或無國籍的統計資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/200.wav",
        "text": "我們現在收到外交部的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/201.wav",
        "text": "但坦白說我們對內容有點失望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/202.wav",
        "text": "我們現在看到外交部提供的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/203.wav",
        "text": "裡面只有12個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/204.wav",
        "text": "將我國的居留標記為中國或無國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/205.wav",
        "text": "但就我們所知明明冰島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/206.wav",
        "text": "其實在2016年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/207.wav",
        "text": "也把我們臺灣人的居留證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/208.wav",
        "text": "可是在外交部的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/209.wav",
        "text": "卻沒有看到冰島"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/210.wav",
        "text": "所以我們其實有一點懷疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/211.wav",
        "text": "現在外交部提供的盤點資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/212.wav",
        "text": "是不是足夠完整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/213.wav",
        "text": "\n那這一次我要跟部長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/214.wav",
        "text": "我的時間可能有限了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/215.wav",
        "text": "部長我們其實也要求外交部去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/216.wav",
        "text": "如果各國將我國的居留證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/217.wav",
        "text": "標記為中國跟無國籍的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/218.wav",
        "text": "可能對我們自己的國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/219.wav",
        "text": "會產生的生活影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/220.wav",
        "text": "可是我們看到很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/221.wav",
        "text": "都被外交部標記為無具體影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/222.wav",
        "text": "說實在我真的不相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/223.wav",
        "text": "我真的不相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/224.wav",
        "text": "假設別的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/225.wav",
        "text": "把我們自己的僑民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/226.wav",
        "text": "標註為中國籍或者是無國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/227.wav",
        "text": "對他的生活對他的情境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/228.wav",
        "text": "毫無具體影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/229.wav",
        "text": "我真的不相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/230.wav",
        "text": "可是我們在很多部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/231.wav",
        "text": "都看到你們說無具體影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/232.wav",
        "text": "所以我自己感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/233.wav",
        "text": "外交部是不是對於這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/234.wav",
        "text": "嚴肅的問題不夠重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/235.wav",
        "text": "所以不只是資料的盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/236.wav",
        "text": "也包括這些相關分析的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/237.wav",
        "text": "都有未盡之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/238.wav",
        "text": "這部分還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/239.wav",
        "text": "林部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/240.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以再回去督導一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/241.wav",
        "text": "把這些事情弄清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/242.wav",
        "text": "因為這是有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/243.wav",
        "text": "遇到類似問題的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/244.wav",
        "text": "跟我們反映的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/245.wav",
        "text": "覺得好像我們部分的駐處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/246.wav",
        "text": "在協助他們的時候不夠積極"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/247.wav",
        "text": "還有對於所謂的懲治臺獨分子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/248.wav",
        "text": "它的這種所謂長臂的管轄等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/249.wav",
        "text": "我們當然要對於用字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/250.wav",
        "text": "還有涉及到這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/251.wav",
        "text": "可能有國籍意涵的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/252.wav",
        "text": "要去捍衛我們國人的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/253.wav",
        "text": "沒錯因為中國現在他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/254.wav",
        "text": "一定要改成中國籍或無國籍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/255.wav",
        "text": "這其實是一件非常重要的大事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/256.wav",
        "text": "影響到我們國人的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/257.wav",
        "text": "對因為它有風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/258.wav",
        "text": "對但外交部現在都跟我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/259.wav",
        "text": "外交部現在的報告都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/260.wav",
        "text": "沒有聽說國人生活受影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/261.wav",
        "text": "我們要瞭解這個趨勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/262.wav",
        "text": "因為有可能會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/263.wav",
        "text": "因為中共的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/264.wav",
        "text": "我想這部分就再請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/265.wav",
        "text": "回去督導一下好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154381/266.wav",
        "text": "我希望能夠改善好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/0.wav",
        "text": "請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/1.wav",
        "text": "部長您過去擔任過無任所大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/2.wav",
        "text": "負責數位新南向的業務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/3.wav",
        "text": "所以我相信部長你一定知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/4.wav",
        "text": "在所謂的官方組織以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/5.wav",
        "text": "其實有非常多的軟實力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/6.wav",
        "text": "可以幫助臺灣跟國際接軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/7.wav",
        "text": "而且甚至是比較有可能突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/8.wav",
        "text": "所謂中國強大封鎖的武器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/9.wav",
        "text": "以上的論述您認同嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/10.wav",
        "text": "認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/11.wav",
        "text": "那我今天就來跟部長分享兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/12.wav",
        "text": "一個是我過去的工作專長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/13.wav",
        "text": "就是文化出版"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/14.wav",
        "text": "在昨天有一個好消息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/15.wav",
        "text": "跟部長您分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/16.wav",
        "text": "首爾國際書展在昨天宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/17.wav",
        "text": "臺灣成為2025年首爾國際書展的主題國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/18.wav",
        "text": "主題國代表什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/19.wav",
        "text": "臺灣過往在全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/20.wav",
        "text": "只有三次成為別的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/21.wav",
        "text": "國際書展的主題國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/22.wav",
        "text": "分別是07年在曼谷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/23.wav",
        "text": "18年在曼谷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/24.wav",
        "text": "12年在法國的安古蘭國際漫畫節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/25.wav",
        "text": "也就是說臺灣一旦有機會成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/26.wav",
        "text": "所謂國際書展的主題國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/27.wav",
        "text": "我們相對的文化外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/28.wav",
        "text": "這件事情的可能性就會變高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/29.wav",
        "text": "以上部長您認同嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/30.wav",
        "text": "非常認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/31.wav",
        "text": "才接見文化奧運國家隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/32.wav",
        "text": "送他們出國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/33.wav",
        "text": "副總統說經濟讓國家強大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/34.wav",
        "text": "文化讓國家偉大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/35.wav",
        "text": "所以雖然書展的主管機關是文化部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/36.wav",
        "text": "在明年首爾國際書展來到之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/37.wav",
        "text": "文化部有沒有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/38.wav",
        "text": "跟外交部一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/39.wav",
        "text": "我們如何讓首爾國際書展上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/40.wav",
        "text": "臺灣主題國這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/41.wav",
        "text": "可以在文化面向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/42.wav",
        "text": "來展示出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/43.wav",
        "text": "部長你覺得有沒有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/44.wav",
        "text": "外交部跟文化部來合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/45.wav",
        "text": "一定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/46.wav",
        "text": "因為我們總合外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/47.wav",
        "text": "部部都是外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/48.wav",
        "text": "尤其書展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/49.wav",
        "text": "這是一個文化軟實力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/50.wav",
        "text": "沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/51.wav",
        "text": "還有外館會全力參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/52.wav",
        "text": "來辦好好這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/53.wav",
        "text": "我們也會請文化部積極的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/54.wav",
        "text": "跟外交部一起來開會討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/55.wav",
        "text": "我們辦公室也會持續追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/56.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/57.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來看一下運動外交的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/58.wav",
        "text": "我屢次跟外交部討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/59.wav",
        "text": "運動外交是一個非常重要的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/60.wav",
        "text": "連賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/61.wav",
        "text": "接見劉柏君時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/62.wav",
        "text": "他也是這一屆的不分區立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/63.wav",
        "text": "甚至賴總統自己都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/64.wav",
        "text": "因為他促成了非常非常多的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/65.wav",
        "text": "所以部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/66.wav",
        "text": "我相信您對於運動外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/67.wav",
        "text": "應該也是支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/68.wav",
        "text": "對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/69.wav",
        "text": "對這也是總合外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/70.wav",
        "text": "很重要的一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/71.wav",
        "text": "一些很棒的故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/72.wav",
        "text": "才分享了一篇臉書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/73.wav",
        "text": "就在昨天才分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/74.wav",
        "text": "有足球經驗的女孩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/75.wav",
        "text": "而且他們長期在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/76.wav",
        "text": "把英文都準備好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/77.wav",
        "text": "送到美國去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/78.wav",
        "text": "跟8個不同國家的少女"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/79.wav",
        "text": "透過運動交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/80.wav",
        "text": "真正意義上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/81.wav",
        "text": "達到了把運動作為國際語言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/82.wav",
        "text": "用運動做朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/83.wav",
        "text": "在去年10月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/84.wav",
        "text": "法國在臺協會的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/85.wav",
        "text": "一樣跟劉柏君合辦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/86.wav",
        "text": "國際女孩日的活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/87.wav",
        "text": "在這個活動上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/88.wav",
        "text": "連我自己都有去參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/89.wav",
        "text": "玩了非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/90.wav",
        "text": "有意義的活動跟遊戲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/91.wav",
        "text": "而裡面要談的就是巴黎奧運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/92.wav",
        "text": "所以在這個活動上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/93.wav",
        "text": "孩子們認識了法國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/94.wav",
        "text": "認識了奧運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/95.wav",
        "text": "認識了女孩在運動上的意義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/96.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個故事是2019年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/97.wav",
        "text": "在畫面的最左邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/98.wav",
        "text": "有一個穿紫色T恤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/99.wav",
        "text": "的是我們現在的內政部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/100.wav",
        "text": "劉世芳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/101.wav",
        "text": "澳大利亞國家足球隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/102.wav",
        "text": "來臺灣參加活動的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/103.wav",
        "text": "甚至他們促成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/104.wav",
        "text": "跟高雄的球隊做交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/105.wav",
        "text": "這個也是一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/106.wav",
        "text": "很棒的運動外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/107.wav",
        "text": "而且是落地在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/108.wav",
        "text": "接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/109.wav",
        "text": "臺灣運動好事協會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/110.wav",
        "text": "甚至在臺灣發起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/111.wav",
        "text": "球具球衣的捐募"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/112.wav",
        "text": "然後送到巴基斯坦去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/113.wav",
        "text": "這也是一個很棒的運動外交實例\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/114.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要分享這麼多的案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/115.wav",
        "text": "我想要跟部長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/116.wav",
        "text": "還包含我手上的這一本書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/117.wav",
        "text": "我希望我可以送給部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/118.wav",
        "text": "但我不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/119.wav",
        "text": "因為我只有這一本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/120.wav",
        "text": "這本書名叫做Title I"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/121.wav",
        "text": "IX美國有一個法案叫Title IX"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/122.wav",
        "text": "就是他們在國家相關預算上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/123.wav",
        "text": "必須要讓男生跟女生的相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/124.wav",
        "text": "預算分配是平等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/125.wav",
        "text": "介紹了9個非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/126.wav",
        "text": "女性故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/127.wav",
        "text": "其中有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/128.wav",
        "text": "部長我翻給你看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/129.wav",
        "text": "就是臺灣的劉柏君"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/130.wav",
        "text": "被寫進美國國務院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/131.wav",
        "text": "出版支持計劃裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/132.wav",
        "text": "介紹劉柏君"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/133.wav",
        "text": "作為全世界第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/134.wav",
        "text": "女性運動員裁判的故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/135.wav",
        "text": "\n部長我分享了這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/136.wav",
        "text": "我想要問一下部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/137.wav",
        "text": "還可以做更多哪些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/138.wav",
        "text": "因為我的時間有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/139.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以拜託部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/140.wav",
        "text": "如果您也支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/141.wav",
        "text": "所謂的運動外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/142.wav",
        "text": "有沒有機會由外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/143.wav",
        "text": "主責在三個月內成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/144.wav",
        "text": "運動外交推動小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/145.wav",
        "text": "裡面除了有外交部的成員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/146.wav",
        "text": "跟相關的運動學者專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/147.wav",
        "text": "還有更多的民間實務工作者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/148.wav",
        "text": "可不可以一起跟外交部討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/149.wav",
        "text": "來具體匡列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/150.wav",
        "text": "並且研擬相關運動外交執行方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/151.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員寶貴的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/152.wav",
        "text": "我們會來研究"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/153.wav",
        "text": "因為總統的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/154.wav",
        "text": "也有要提高運動體育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/155.wav",
        "text": "的部分不管是它的部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/156.wav",
        "text": "還有預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/157.wav",
        "text": "運動強調公平競爭參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/158.wav",
        "text": "還有和平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/159.wav",
        "text": "尤其像奧運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/160.wav",
        "text": "它會有外交的效益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/161.wav",
        "text": "但是如果用運動外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/162.wav",
        "text": "我們在國際上的外交處境比較特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/163.wav",
        "text": "有時候運動的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/164.wav",
        "text": "是最大的外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/165.wav",
        "text": "但如果用外交的方式去推運動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/166.wav",
        "text": "也可能會有政治上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/167.wav",
        "text": "就是正反的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/168.wav",
        "text": "啦所以怎麼樣去組成這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/169.wav",
        "text": "是在外交部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/170.wav",
        "text": "還是說行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/171.wav",
        "text": "還是跨部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/172.wav",
        "text": "我們來研究一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/173.wav",
        "text": "聽起來部長您是支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/174.wav",
        "text": "的只是你要提醒我的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/175.wav",
        "text": "是另外一個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/176.wav",
        "text": "就是如果用外交部的力量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/177.wav",
        "text": "外交部的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/178.wav",
        "text": "甚至是外交部表明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/179.wav",
        "text": "就成立這個小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/180.wav",
        "text": "搞不好會受到更多的阻礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/181.wav",
        "text": "您是這個意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/182.wav",
        "text": "目前我們也期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/183.wav",
        "text": "能夠推動運動外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/184.wav",
        "text": "這也是一個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/185.wav",
        "text": "但是這個小組要怎麼樣籌組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/186.wav",
        "text": "要放在哪個層級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/187.wav",
        "text": "重點工作在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/188.wav",
        "text": "很願意來參與跟推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/189.wav",
        "text": "那是不是我們辦公室之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/190.wav",
        "text": "可以積極的找外交部來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/191.wav",
        "text": "分享了這麼多案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/192.wav",
        "text": "我們其實有非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/193.wav",
        "text": "民間專家學者好朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/194.wav",
        "text": "實務上的工作者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/195.wav",
        "text": "他們也許可以提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/196.wav",
        "text": "更具體的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/197.wav",
        "text": "讓外交部作為參考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/198.wav",
        "text": "是但我們可能要跟行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/199.wav",
        "text": "就是說整體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/200.wav",
        "text": "因為它涉及到跨部會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/201.wav",
        "text": "尤其是很多涉及到教育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/202.wav",
        "text": "文化部還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/203.wav",
        "text": "還有未來要升格的體育部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/204.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣能夠分工合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/205.wav",
        "text": "我們會積極來推動外交"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/206.wav",
        "text": "是不是有機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/207.wav",
        "text": "就是跟院會那邊討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/208.wav",
        "text": "進度跟可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/209.wav",
        "text": "好我們來跟院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/210.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/211.wav",
        "text": "再來就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/212.wav",
        "text": "2028的洛杉磯奧運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/213.wav",
        "text": "不好意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/214.wav",
        "text": "關於2028奧運的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/215.wav",
        "text": "相關的主題設計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/216.wav",
        "text": "連動跟可能性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/217.wav",
        "text": "促進民間合作部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/218.wav",
        "text": "一併考慮跟討論好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/219.wav",
        "text": "好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/220.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154382/221.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/1.wav",
        "text": "請外交部林部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/2.wav",
        "text": "請林部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/3.wav",
        "text": "好部長辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/4.wav",
        "text": "因為對美關係是我國對外關係中的重中之重是核心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/5.wav",
        "text": "所以駐美代表的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/6.wav",
        "text": "他的人格特質他的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/7.wav",
        "text": "他在華府的影響力都要得到大家的肯定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/8.wav",
        "text": "所以我長期觀察駐美代表人選"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/9.wav",
        "text": "第一個要低調"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/10.wav",
        "text": "個人的事情要低調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/11.wav",
        "text": "一定要全力去推動或者捍衛也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/12.wav",
        "text": "要很謹慎因為動見觀瞻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/13.wav",
        "text": "其他駐處的代表或者大使都要有這種特質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/14.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在遴選外館的館長或者大使的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/15.wav",
        "text": "要特別注意他們的人格特質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/16.wav",
        "text": "太高調的不太適合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/17.wav",
        "text": "所以為什麼會有這些事件出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/18.wav",
        "text": "會有這些批評的聲音或者質疑的聲音出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/19.wav",
        "text": "部長您的看法是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/20.wav",
        "text": "每一個人都有他的風格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/21.wav",
        "text": "當然外交上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/22.wav",
        "text": "大家都知道外交官需要具備一些條件"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/23.wav",
        "text": "能夠代表國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/24.wav",
        "text": "但是對內怎麼去領導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/25.wav",
        "text": "讓同仁有士氣發揮團隊的戰力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/26.wav",
        "text": "這個也是另外一個大使"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/27.wav",
        "text": "讓我覺得納悶跟困惑的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/28.wav",
        "text": "蕭副總統擔任駐美大使三年期間"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/29.wav",
        "text": "也沒什麼聽說官舍要換新"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/30.wav",
        "text": "或者是要添購什麼物品"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/31.wav",
        "text": "或者是公務車不當使用等這種狀況"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/32.wav",
        "text": "甚至歷任的館長歷任的駐美代表"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/33.wav",
        "text": "好像也比較少這種聲音"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/34.wav",
        "text": "所以您瞭解的狀況是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/35.wav",
        "text": "報告寫出來了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/36.wav",
        "text": "我們初步都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/37.wav",
        "text": "我們當然知道大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/38.wav",
        "text": "就是媒體報導的那個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/39.wav",
        "text": "所以也做了一些說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/40.wav",
        "text": "可是因為這個有可能是內部同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/41.wav",
        "text": "有一些不滿的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/42.wav",
        "text": "把一些資料傳出去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/43.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分就是涉及到外館內部的事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/44.wav",
        "text": "如果他說的是屬實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/45.wav",
        "text": "對沒有錯我們就事論事"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/46.wav",
        "text": "但是個人的部分我們當然"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/47.wav",
        "text": "你也知道駐美代表的地位"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/48.wav",
        "text": "以及重要性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/49.wav",
        "text": "所以大家會用放大鏡來檢視"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/50.wav",
        "text": "一言一行都非常重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/51.wav",
        "text": "不管是公領域或者私生活都非常地重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/52.wav",
        "text": "所以外交系統一定要知人善任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/53.wav",
        "text": "如果前線的指揮官前線的將領"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/54.wav",
        "text": "被質疑你要怎麼領兵作戰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/55.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼衝鋒陷陣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/56.wav",
        "text": "你要怎麼領導聯合國相關組織"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/57.wav",
        "text": "這都是駐美代表主要的任務"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/58.wav",
        "text": "嘛如果你個人的問題會困擾你"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/59.wav",
        "text": "會形成你工作上的障礙"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/60.wav",
        "text": "會形成推動臺美關係的一些阻礙的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/61.wav",
        "text": "可能部長要思考一下這個重要性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/62.wav",
        "text": "不能以私害公"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/63.wav",
        "text": "臺美關係才是國家的大政"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/64.wav",
        "text": "它是國家利益之所在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/65.wav",
        "text": "國家利益他沒有去思考"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/66.wav",
        "text": "因為他每天在思考"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/67.wav",
        "text": "不是說他的床墊怎麼樣沙發怎麼樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/68.wav",
        "text": "他要每天去思考怎麼樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/69.wav",
        "text": "分分秒秒時時刻刻日日月月去推動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/70.wav",
        "text": "精進臺美關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/71.wav",
        "text": "啊\n所以我看到這個報導或相關的評論"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/72.wav",
        "text": "是有點擔心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/73.wav",
        "text": "啊那麼重要的位置"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/74.wav",
        "text": "領導統御也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/75.wav",
        "text": "你說這個是內部問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/76.wav",
        "text": "就代表領導統御有問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/77.wav",
        "text": "如果前軍作戰"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/78.wav",
        "text": "出現這一種領導統御的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/79.wav",
        "text": "團隊的力量怎麼樣去發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/80.wav",
        "text": "如果團隊力量沒有辦法發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/81.wav",
        "text": "損及的就是國家利益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/82.wav",
        "text": "影響的是臺美關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/83.wav",
        "text": "對不對當然在外交圈也會變成一個新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/84.wav",
        "text": "大家就會去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/85.wav",
        "text": "部長您的評論怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/86.wav",
        "text": "當然怎麼樣去提高同仁工作的士氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/87.wav",
        "text": "發揮更大的團隊戰力"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/88.wav",
        "text": "這個是任何一個主管"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/89.wav",
        "text": "尤其是在外館的大使"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/90.wav",
        "text": "他當然負完全的領導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/91.wav",
        "text": "我覺得在對外上面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/92.wav",
        "text": "確實是發揮很好的功能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/93.wav",
        "text": "臺美關係不斷地在提升中"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/94.wav",
        "text": "但是因為內部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/95.wav",
        "text": "有一些怎麼樣去激勵同仁的士氣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/96.wav",
        "text": "這也是領導者要做的工作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/97.wav",
        "text": "權力越大就要更謙卑"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/98.wav",
        "text": "就好像一位修行者一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/99.wav",
        "text": "對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/100.wav",
        "text": "心要淨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/101.wav",
        "text": "邪魔就入"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/102.wav",
        "text": "所以位子越高權力越大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/103.wav",
        "text": "就會更孤獨"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/104.wav",
        "text": "因為你就像一位修行者一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/105.wav",
        "text": "每天砥礪自己"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/106.wav",
        "text": "都是國家利益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/107.wav",
        "text": "是因為領導風格"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/108.wav",
        "text": "有一些是願景領導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/109.wav",
        "text": "有些是行動領導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/110.wav",
        "text": "有些是服務領導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/111.wav",
        "text": "所以領導怎麼樣將幫忙的同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/112.wav",
        "text": "都當作貴人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/113.wav",
        "text": "以激勵士氣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/114.wav",
        "text": "發揮更大的效果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/115.wav",
        "text": "就是一個位子那麼重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/116.wav",
        "text": "國家利益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/117.wav",
        "text": "所以要用修行者的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/118.wav",
        "text": "很謹慎地說每一句話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/119.wav",
        "text": "做每一件事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154383/120.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/0.wav",
        "text": "法院還了謝國樑清白"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/1.wav",
        "text": "民進黨林右昌還在亂罷免"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/2.wav",
        "text": "今年年初"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/3.wav",
        "text": "謝國樑市長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/4.wav",
        "text": "蕭美琴以副總統當選人之姿"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/5.wav",
        "text": "開始推動罷免謝國樑"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/6.wav",
        "text": "但是這個月的21號"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/7.wav",
        "text": "地方法院判決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/8.wav",
        "text": "當初告基隆市政府的大日公司敗訴"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/9.wav",
        "text": "NET是跟大日簽合約"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/10.wav",
        "text": "這個合約跟基隆市政府沒有關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/11.wav",
        "text": "換言之"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/12.wav",
        "text": "謝國樑當時就是為了保護基隆市的財產"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/13.wav",
        "text": "他是一個有擔當捍衛市產的基隆市長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/14.wav",
        "text": "今天居然遭到這種鋪天蓋地"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/15.wav",
        "text": "無厘頭的罷免行動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/16.wav",
        "text": "民進黨林右昌站上第一線"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/17.wav",
        "text": "我要問你們對得起基隆人嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/18.wav",
        "text": "\n我是基隆長大的小孩"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/19.wav",
        "text": "不是基隆的孩子可能不知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/20.wav",
        "text": "在基隆如果東岸停車場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/21.wav",
        "text": "算是精華地段的第二名"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/22.wav",
        "text": "我跟各位講你找不出第一名"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/23.wav",
        "text": "啦東岸停車場就是精華中的精華"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/24.wav",
        "text": "NET跟大日簽合約它投入2億元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/25.wav",
        "text": "結果它跟我們主張2到4樓商場的所有權"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/26.wav",
        "text": "這個利益50年可以為基隆市"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/27.wav",
        "text": "光租金就帶來50億元的收入"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/28.wav",
        "text": "我想問問林右昌"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/29.wav",
        "text": "如果你是基隆市長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/30.wav",
        "text": "你能容許2億換50億嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/31.wav",
        "text": "我要問問林右昌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/32.wav",
        "text": "今天如果你是基隆市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/33.wav",
        "text": "遇到這種基隆市財產可能被侵奪的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/34.wav",
        "text": "你難道不站出來捍衛嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/35.wav",
        "text": "結果一個捍衛基隆市財產的基隆市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/36.wav",
        "text": "做不到一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/37.wav",
        "text": "今天面臨民進黨鋪天蓋地的罷免"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/38.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊要告訴大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/39.wav",
        "text": "一個勇敢守護基隆市產的基隆市長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/40.wav",
        "text": "臺灣人民跟基隆市民都該擔當他們的後盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/41.wav",
        "text": "我也要呼籲民進黨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154384/42.wav",
        "text": "拜託你們地方法院打臉不要再鬧了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/0.wav",
        "text": "主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/1.wav",
        "text": "本週國是論壇開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/2.wav",
        "text": "我們要嚴厲譴責民進黨造謠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/3.wav",
        "text": "假新聞一條龍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/4.wav",
        "text": "是不是害怕國會改革"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/5.wav",
        "text": "想要轉移焦點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/6.wav",
        "text": "所以就用不實抹黑造謠來針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/7.wav",
        "text": "不只是針對民意代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/8.wav",
        "text": "還針對相關的新聞媒體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/9.wav",
        "text": "\n我們說在這個禮拜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/10.wav",
        "text": "本席就面臨到了抹黑造謠的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/11.wav",
        "text": "拿將近三個月前立院委員會的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/12.wav",
        "text": "影射本席要索取台積電的機密資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/13.wav",
        "text": "但是這根本就是無中生有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/14.wav",
        "text": "我們說整場的質詢裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/15.wav",
        "text": "從開頭引述媒體報導台積電"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/16.wav",
        "text": "但質詢內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/17.wav",
        "text": "通篇全都是關心0403花蓮地震之後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/18.wav",
        "text": "這不是國人應該要瞭解的狀況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/19.wav",
        "text": "科學園區是我們臺灣重要的金雞母產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/20.wav",
        "text": "所有科學園區的產值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/21.wav",
        "text": "難道臺灣人民不應該瞭解嗎"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/22.wav",
        "text": "正常運作是國科會身為主管機關"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/23.wav",
        "text": "應該要去瞭解掌握的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/24.wav",
        "text": "我們說通過這樣子的一個爆料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/25.wav",
        "text": "由委員爆料出來"
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    {
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        "text": "影射索取台積電機密資料"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/27.wav",
        "text": "到媒體報導"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/28.wav",
        "text": "晚間政論節目全部一條龍的抹黑"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/29.wav",
        "text": "兩天過去了"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/30.wav",
        "text": "到底有人想在乎真相是什麼嗎"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/31.wav",
        "text": "通篇的逐字稿都在網路上面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/32.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以追查得到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/33.wav",
        "text": "再者如果說真的有不實狀況的話"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/34.wav",
        "text": "當天0411（4月11日）委員會裡面"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/35.wav",
        "text": "有高達二三百零位──"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/36.wav",
        "text": "不管是官員記者委員工作人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/37.wav",
        "text": "全都在現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/38.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何一個人覺得有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/39.wav",
        "text": "沒有任何一個人覺得有狀況"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/40.wav",
        "text": "結果在過了兩個多月之後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/41.wav",
        "text": "突然間講"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/42.wav",
        "text": "這樣子對嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/43.wav",
        "text": "4月份的質詢可以影響到6月份的股價"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/44.wav",
        "text": "這是什麼樣的邏輯跟道理"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/45.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統2019年曾經講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/46.wav",
        "text": "請蔡英文總統停止用網軍攻擊我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/47.wav",
        "text": "但沒想到當你手握權力的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/48.wav",
        "text": "你居然變成了你最討厭的那一種人"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/49.wav",
        "text": "手握權力擁有網軍"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/50.wav",
        "text": "看到任何黨同伐異的人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/51.wav",
        "text": "你就可以開始任意的指揮出征"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/52.wav",
        "text": "以為對付的是在野"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/53.wav",
        "text": "以為對付的是不中聽的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/54.wav",
        "text": "實際上就只是想要讓臺灣變成更加的一言堂"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/55.wav",
        "text": "這樣子是民主進步嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/56.wav",
        "text": "所以當立法委員都會受到這樣子對待的時候"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/57.wav",
        "text": "一般老百姓如何能夠抵抗"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154385/58.wav",
        "text": "本席要再一次嚴正譴責民進黨假新聞造謠一條龍"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/0.wav",
        "text": "院長各位親愛的家人大家早安"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/1.wav",
        "text": "我們消防同仁總是在第一線保護人民的生命財產安全"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/2.wav",
        "text": "對於社會貢獻巨大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/3.wav",
        "text": "也因為直接面對危險的工作環境"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/4.wav",
        "text": "近十年來已經有四十幾位消防人員英勇殉職"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/5.wav",
        "text": "諷刺的是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/6.wav",
        "text": "當消防人員想要組織工會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/7.wav",
        "text": "為自己的工作權利發聲時"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/8.wav",
        "text": "卻一再被政府忽視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/9.wav",
        "text": "在爭取權利的路上十分坎坷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/10.wav",
        "text": "政府不只消極應對"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/11.wav",
        "text": "甚至在本週攸關基層消防員的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/12.wav",
        "text": "職安法修正中"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/13.wav",
        "text": "只願意在消防法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/14.wav",
        "text": "制定專章"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/15.wav",
        "text": "忽視基層消防人員希望能全面適用"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/16.wav",
        "text": "職業安全衛生法的心聲"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/17.wav",
        "text": "這就是凸顯了政府對基層的傲慢"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/18.wav",
        "text": "\n捍衛工作權為自己的權利發聲"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/19.wav",
        "text": "不該是遙不可及的願望"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/20.wav",
        "text": "而是早該還與他們的基本權利"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/21.wav",
        "text": "消防人員組工會的合法權益"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/22.wav",
        "text": "應得到充分尊重和保護"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/23.wav",
        "text": "政府任何部門都不應該干涉立法的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/24.wav",
        "text": "而業務繁雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/25.wav",
        "text": "過勞高殉職的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/26.wav",
        "text": "工時過長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/27.wav",
        "text": "人力不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/28.wav",
        "text": "輪班機制有缺失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/29.wav",
        "text": "一切的根源都源於沒有工會的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/30.wav",
        "text": "被剝奪與行政機構對等協商的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/31.wav",
        "text": "\n我聲援消防人員組工會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/32.wav",
        "text": "讓消防人員有一個平臺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/33.wav",
        "text": "對抗政治力的介入與干預"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/34.wav",
        "text": "而能專心於救火救人的本業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/35.wav",
        "text": "希望消防署能秉持同理心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/36.wav",
        "text": "不要再用研議中討論中這種敷衍的藉口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/37.wav",
        "text": "確保政策制定和實施過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/38.wav",
        "text": "納入第一線消防同仁的聲音和需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/39.wav",
        "text": "呼籲政府不要對消防同仁打假球"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/40.wav",
        "text": "請尊重消防人員的安全與權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154386/41.wav",
        "text": "消防同仁加油臺灣加油謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/0.wav",
        "text": "主席各位官員各位委員媒體朋友大家早安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/1.wav",
        "text": "Taiwan Needs Help"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/2.wav",
        "text": "臺灣現在面臨非常嚴峻的護理荒輸液荒"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/3.wav",
        "text": "各層級的醫療院所基層醫師們都在哀嚎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/4.wav",
        "text": "急診壅塞關病床關病房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/5.wav",
        "text": "缺生理食鹽水輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/6.wav",
        "text": "嚴重地影響到我們國人就醫手術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/7.wav",
        "text": "還有洗腎的權益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/8.wav",
        "text": "本席想到上個月到WHA的會場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/9.wav",
        "text": "衛福部還很自豪地跟各國代表分享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/10.wav",
        "text": "以兩到三倍的價格購買輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/11.wav",
        "text": "到底發生了什麼事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/12.wav",
        "text": "變成Taiwan Needs Help"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/13.wav",
        "text": "\n缺乏輸液不只是醫療問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/14.wav",
        "text": "更是國安危機"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/15.wav",
        "text": "如此基本的物資幾乎是所有急診住院手術都會需要的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/16.wav",
        "text": "如果近期不幸發生重大公安事件或天災意外"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/17.wav",
        "text": "我完全不敢想像在醫療現場煉獄般的畫面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/18.wav",
        "text": "哀嚎怒吼缺輸液缺醫護人手還缺藥品"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/19.wav",
        "text": "現在各層級的醫院也正面臨著護理師人力不足的問題"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/20.wav",
        "text": "但因為衛福部只能提供特定容量的生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/21.wav",
        "text": "導致在整個手術或是洗腎過程中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/22.wav",
        "text": "護理師必須不斷地去打開不同溶液的輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/23.wav",
        "text": "更是在我們現在護理師荒的議題上雪上加霜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/24.wav",
        "text": "而輸液會大缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/25.wav",
        "text": "最根本的原因就是健保給付對藥品的點值設定過低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/26.wav",
        "text": "最終沒有任何廠家願意生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/27.wav",
        "text": "淪為一家或少數幾家獨占的市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/28.wav",
        "text": "一旦出狀況就會跟現在一樣釀成大災難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/29.wav",
        "text": "\n我也必須說這場事件就是衛福部造成的人禍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/30.wav",
        "text": "出事的廠家輸液出現黑色的懸浮粒需要緊急回收"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/31.wav",
        "text": "表示衛福部跟食藥署早就知道兩個重大的警訊"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/32.wav",
        "text": "第一是品管有問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/33.wav",
        "text": "第二這個廠商占市場比例高達八成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/34.wav",
        "text": "如果有突發狀況就會一發不可收拾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/35.wav",
        "text": "結果我們卻是毫無作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/36.wav",
        "text": "最後說輸液供貨穩定要到10月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/37.wav",
        "text": "是不是表示接下來4個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154387/38.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席以及各位先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/1.wav",
        "text": "有請行政院卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/2.wav",
        "text": "麻煩請卓院長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/3.wav",
        "text": "院長早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/4.wav",
        "text": "早陸委會剛剛宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/5.wav",
        "text": "調升中國大陸港澳旅遊警示為橙色燈號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/6.wav",
        "text": "建議國人避免非必要的旅行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/7.wav",
        "text": "請問你有沒有參與這件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/8.wav",
        "text": "我當然瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/9.wav",
        "text": "你當然瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/10.wav",
        "text": "你也支持這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/11.wav",
        "text": "但是不要忘了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/12.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統在520演說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/13.wav",
        "text": "中講了這樣一段話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/14.wav",
        "text": "他講兩岸交流可以從重啟雙邊對等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/15.wav",
        "text": "觀光旅遊開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/16.wav",
        "text": "沒有忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/17.wav",
        "text": "這句話他講的是吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/18.wav",
        "text": "結果現在上臺不到一個月就把它掐死了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/19.wav",
        "text": "現在你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/20.wav",
        "text": "非必要旅行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/21.wav",
        "text": "這個就是比照以色列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/22.wav",
        "text": "以色列在打仗啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/23.wav",
        "text": "為什麼現在要做這樣的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/24.wav",
        "text": "旅遊業者紛紛說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/25.wav",
        "text": "死定了本來對賴總統有很大的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/26.wav",
        "text": "覺得春暖花開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/27.wav",
        "text": "520演說講得這麼漂亮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/28.wav",
        "text": "從觀光旅遊開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/29.wav",
        "text": "兩岸交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/30.wav",
        "text": "結果現在變惡意的堆疊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/31.wav",
        "text": "老共祭出這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/32.wav",
        "text": "我們就打出這張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/33.wav",
        "text": "張就這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/34.wav",
        "text": "兩岸的惡意螺旋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/35.wav",
        "text": "越來越上升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/36.wav",
        "text": "了我的重點在後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/37.wav",
        "text": "這個你只要簡短回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/38.wav",
        "text": "這個什麼時候會再檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/39.wav",
        "text": "這樣的橙色警戒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/40.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/41.wav",
        "text": "我們也看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/42.wav",
        "text": "6月21日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/43.wav",
        "text": "中國當局對於所謂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/44.wav",
        "text": "臺獨分子的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/45.wav",
        "text": "加註了很多不應該有的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/46.wav",
        "text": "我們第一個是要保障國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/47.wav",
        "text": "去到大陸地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/48.wav",
        "text": "的人身安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/49.wav",
        "text": "都有安全之你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/50.wav",
        "text": "為是臺獨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/51.wav",
        "text": "這是它的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/52.wav",
        "text": "這是它的定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/53.wav",
        "text": "喔只要希望臺灣加入國際組織的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/54.wav",
        "text": "你可以看到賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/55.wav",
        "text": "又把臺灣派中華民國派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/56.wav",
        "text": "臺灣派都匡匡在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/57.wav",
        "text": "前倨後委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/58.wav",
        "text": "把大家抱起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/59.wav",
        "text": "都是喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/60.wav",
        "text": "我要把事實講出來啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/61.wav",
        "text": "我沒有請你講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/62.wav",
        "text": "請你不要講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/63.wav",
        "text": "旅遊業已經苦哈哈這麼久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/64.wav",
        "text": "我就問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/65.wav",
        "text": "真的你們只有政治嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/66.wav",
        "text": "只有這樣對抗嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/67.wav",
        "text": "大家都了解嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/68.wav",
        "text": "這個其實是以假保護臺灣的名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/69.wav",
        "text": "完全切掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/70.wav",
        "text": "請問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/71.wav",
        "text": "這個要維持多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/72.wav",
        "text": "看中國的態度要維持多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/73.wav",
        "text": "好未來會不會進一步變紅色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/74.wav",
        "text": "看中國的態度有沒有改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/75.wav",
        "text": "所以不排除變紅色的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/76.wav",
        "text": "現在不能做這種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/77.wav",
        "text": "預言式的質詢很可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/78.wav",
        "text": "不能做這種預言式的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/79.wav",
        "text": "我再跟你強調一遍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/80.wav",
        "text": "我講話你不要插話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/81.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛有問我啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/82.wav",
        "text": "我現在就問你你沒有回答嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/83.wav",
        "text": "我說有沒有可能進一步提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/84.wav",
        "text": "是不是不排除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/85.wav",
        "text": "以後可能變紅色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/86.wav",
        "text": "這種預言式的質詢很可怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/87.wav",
        "text": "要看對方的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/88.wav",
        "text": "我們希望就此和緩改變態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/89.wav",
        "text": "大家都能夠和平理性的交流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/90.wav",
        "text": "好我們看到這陣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/91.wav",
        "text": "陸媒盯哨政論節目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/92.wav",
        "text": "在外界高度質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/93.wav",
        "text": "行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/94.wav",
        "text": "中央廚房跟自由時報"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/95.wav",
        "text": "到現在為止你們國安單位也沒有查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/96.wav",
        "text": "不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/97.wav",
        "text": "啊要進行搜索之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/98.wav",
        "text": "當然是有相當的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/99.wav",
        "text": "有相當的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/100.wav",
        "text": "讓我們足以判斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/101.wav",
        "text": "要增加以後未來安全的防範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/102.wav",
        "text": "請問你立案調查了沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/103.wav",
        "text": "有人在進行瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/104.wav",
        "text": "開始調查就這個意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/105.wav",
        "text": "累計虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/106.wav",
        "text": "3008百多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/107.wav",
        "text": "而且郭部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/108.wav",
        "text": "對外說他不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/109.wav",
        "text": "政府的補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/110.wav",
        "text": "主計長前一陣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/111.wav",
        "text": "還來找我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/112.wav",
        "text": "我們1,000億要給台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/113.wav",
        "text": "不要1,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/114.wav",
        "text": "企業經營自負盈虧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/115.wav",
        "text": "累積虧損3008百多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/116.wav",
        "text": "還有一條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/117.wav",
        "text": "還有一個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/118.wav",
        "text": "2008百多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/119.wav",
        "text": "了確定不要了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/120.wav",
        "text": "8等於虧損600多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/121.wav",
        "text": "請問你怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/122.wav",
        "text": "請問2008百多億的核四怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/123.wav",
        "text": "郭部長用他企業經營的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/124.wav",
        "text": "他是說未來台電好好經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/125.wav",
        "text": "可以朝向自主性的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/126.wav",
        "text": "但是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/127.wav",
        "text": "負有很多政策目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/128.wav",
        "text": "做很多政策補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/129.wav",
        "text": "政府適足的撥補是應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/130.wav",
        "text": "目前的這個階段"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/131.wav",
        "text": "政府撥補是應該的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/132.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有講過這一句"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/133.wav",
        "text": "郭部長用他企業經營觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/134.wav",
        "text": "未來台電能夠自主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/135.wav",
        "text": "郭部長藉著這個機會不要回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/136.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/137.wav",
        "text": "你能不能承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/138.wav",
        "text": "今年電價不要漲可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/139.wav",
        "text": "電價審議委員會最後的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/140.wav",
        "text": "但是我們會考慮到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/141.wav",
        "text": "物價的穩定民生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/142.wav",
        "text": "跟產業的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/143.wav",
        "text": "領不到平均薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/144.wav",
        "text": "四萬塊四萬多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/145.wav",
        "text": "三分之二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/146.wav",
        "text": "68%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/147.wav",
        "text": "領不到平均薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/148.wav",
        "text": "所以你不敢承諾今年不漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/149.wav",
        "text": "不敢承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/150.wav",
        "text": "委員你比我清楚這是電價審議委員會要審議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/151.wav",
        "text": "我只告訴大家今年已經漲過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/152.wav",
        "text": "我們會考慮民生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/153.wav",
        "text": "考慮物價考慮產業的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/154.wav",
        "text": "不然你就回答稍微縮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/155.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/156.wav",
        "text": "說今年我儘量讓它不要漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/157.wav",
        "text": "這樣可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/158.wav",
        "text": "我們努力維持各項的穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/159.wav",
        "text": "儘量不要漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/160.wav",
        "text": "努力維持物價的穩定跟民生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/161.wav",
        "text": "會全力的努力維持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/162.wav",
        "text": "希望委員跟我們一起讓台電體質能夠更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/163.wav",
        "text": "儘量不要漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/164.wav",
        "text": "你都不敢承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/165.wav",
        "text": "承諾儘量不要漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/166.wav",
        "text": "如果我說了大家又說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/167.wav",
        "text": "院長在主導審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/168.wav",
        "text": "所以我不能這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/169.wav",
        "text": "但是我們有我們努力的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/170.wav",
        "text": "委員應該相信我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/171.wav",
        "text": "你說交給審議委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/172.wav",
        "text": "這個都是騙人的啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/173.wav",
        "text": "其實是政策主導的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/174.wav",
        "text": "賴清德跟卓榮泰是不同調的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/175.wav",
        "text": "或唱雙簧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/176.wav",
        "text": "他現在成立一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/177.wav",
        "text": "氣候委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/178.wav",
        "text": "在總統府裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/179.wav",
        "text": "其實就是永續經營的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/180.wav",
        "text": "童子賢最近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/181.wav",
        "text": "放砲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/182.wav",
        "text": "蔡英文政府的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/183.wav",
        "text": "減碳成績不如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/184.wav",
        "text": "馬英九政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/185.wav",
        "text": "核電應該占三成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/186.wav",
        "text": "綠電占三成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/187.wav",
        "text": "四成是火力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/188.wav",
        "text": "他講這個概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/189.wav",
        "text": "總統府怎麼講呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/190.wav",
        "text": "尊重啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/191.wav",
        "text": "奇怪他講這個是打你的臉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/192.wav",
        "text": "卓院長你也很瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/193.wav",
        "text": "行政院長是童子賢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/194.wav",
        "text": "不是卓榮泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/195.wav",
        "text": "你們那天不是說林佳龍嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/196.wav",
        "text": "委員前天說是林佳龍今天又變童子賢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/197.wav",
        "text": "不是賴清德屬意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/198.wav",
        "text": "他他想當行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/199.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/200.wav",
        "text": "找童子賢要接行政院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/201.wav",
        "text": "報告委員最重要的是今天就是我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/202.wav",
        "text": "站在這裡跟你討論國事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/203.wav",
        "text": "這個才重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/204.wav",
        "text": "對嘛好那我就跟你講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/205.wav",
        "text": "現在童子賢這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/206.wav",
        "text": "囉某種程度就代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/207.wav",
        "text": "賴清德的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/208.wav",
        "text": "他是氣候委員會的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/209.wav",
        "text": "副召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/210.wav",
        "text": "召集人就是賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/211.wav",
        "text": "啊某種程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/212.wav",
        "text": "所以請問你還堅持非核家園嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/213.wav",
        "text": "請問回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/214.wav",
        "text": "報告委員非核家園是2002年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/215.wav",
        "text": "環境基本法第23條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/216.wav",
        "text": "所定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/217.wav",
        "text": "我們都應該守法吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/218.wav",
        "text": "這裡第23條規定政府應訂定計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/219.wav",
        "text": "逐步達成非核家園目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/220.wav",
        "text": "當時訂定這個條文的時候委員也應該在立法院裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/221.wav",
        "text": "下個月核三廠1號機就停掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/222.wav",
        "text": "了核電占比不到4%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/223.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/224.wav",
        "text": "如果你這樣講的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/225.wav",
        "text": "那就很簡單了我的解讀就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/226.wav",
        "text": "就是要非核家園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/227.wav",
        "text": "然後賴清德就開始騙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/228.wav",
        "text": "啊騙的擁核的來喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/229.wav",
        "text": "所以把base加大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/230.wav",
        "text": "他希望變成45%變成50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/231.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣子而已啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/232.wav",
        "text": "一切就是為了政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/233.wav",
        "text": "那個可以修那個太簡單了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/234.wav",
        "text": "沒有修我就要依法吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/235.wav",
        "text": "那個可以修當然可以修為什麼不能修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/236.wav",
        "text": "沒有修之前大家都要依法現在你要依法我也要依法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/237.wav",
        "text": "你去修你們要推的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/238.wav",
        "text": "最後如果決定要推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/239.wav",
        "text": "你要不要辭職下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/240.wav",
        "text": "現在要看核管法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/241.wav",
        "text": "我們能不能有權力有能力去這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/242.wav",
        "text": "好你講到核管法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/243.wav",
        "text": "郭部長很奇怪耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/244.wav",
        "text": "他說臺灣人很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/245.wav",
        "text": "我覺得郭智輝才奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/246.wav",
        "text": "他跑到美國罵臺灣人耶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/247.wav",
        "text": "跑去美國罵臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/248.wav",
        "text": "他說臺灣人好奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/249.wav",
        "text": "核電也不要啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/250.wav",
        "text": "風電也不要啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/251.wav",
        "text": "火力也不要啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/252.wav",
        "text": "通通都不要可是又"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/253.wav",
        "text": "AMD來這裡投資大家搞AI"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/254.wav",
        "text": "怎麼一個經濟部長跑去美國罵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/255.wav",
        "text": "自己臺灣人呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/256.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的經濟部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/257.wav",
        "text": "有這樣的經濟部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/258.wav",
        "text": "不會很清楚的我們知道郭部長的意思是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/259.wav",
        "text": "大家支持要國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/260.wav",
        "text": "支持台電的電力開發計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/261.wav",
        "text": "我們多元發展綠能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/262.wav",
        "text": "臺灣人好奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/263.wav",
        "text": "他就這樣說啊我都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/264.wav",
        "text": "郭智輝好奇怪怎麼跑去美國罵臺灣人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/265.wav",
        "text": "好奇怪的郭智輝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/266.wav",
        "text": "啊怎麼可以這樣子呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/267.wav",
        "text": "來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/268.wav",
        "text": "如果延役修法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/269.wav",
        "text": "核二核三可以延二十年三十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/270.wav",
        "text": "我們現在有法在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/271.wav",
        "text": "現在最大的就是那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/272.wav",
        "text": "核管法相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/273.wav",
        "text": "我們現在把五年拿掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/274.wav",
        "text": "現在還沒有審"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/275.wav",
        "text": "審查如果通過的話請問卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/276.wav",
        "text": "對不起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/277.wav",
        "text": "哪個法通過核管法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/278.wav",
        "text": "核管法第6條通過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/279.wav",
        "text": "還有我的特別條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/280.wav",
        "text": "這樣子可以讓核一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/281.wav",
        "text": "復活核二復活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/282.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我講給你聽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/283.wav",
        "text": "全世界你聽我講完先不要急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/284.wav",
        "text": "核電廠平均壽命四十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/285.wav",
        "text": "核一就這樣結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/286.wav",
        "text": "但是全世界都是把它plus二十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/287.wav",
        "text": "有的甚至於更長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/288.wav",
        "text": "世界潮流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/289.wav",
        "text": "世界潮流現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/290.wav",
        "text": "減碳不減核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/291.wav",
        "text": "多少的國家現在都拼命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/292.wav",
        "text": "擁抱核電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/293.wav",
        "text": "只有我們要死抱著非核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/294.wav",
        "text": "我就問你這個東西很明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/295.wav",
        "text": "我時間不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/296.wav",
        "text": "新的法案通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/297.wav",
        "text": "我們都要看它有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/298.wav",
        "text": "窒礙難行如果沒有窒礙難行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/299.wav",
        "text": "我們當然會照法令來執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/300.wav",
        "text": "沒有假如通過就是核電廠可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/301.wav",
        "text": "那這樣就跟你的非核家園完全conflict"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/302.wav",
        "text": "矛盾了打架延"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/303.wav",
        "text": "延役要三到五年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/304.wav",
        "text": "是沒有辦法發電的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/305.wav",
        "text": "委員難道不知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/306.wav",
        "text": "核電專家我們坐下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/307.wav",
        "text": "討論了幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/308.wav",
        "text": "大概一年的時間之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/309.wav",
        "text": "重新set up大概大概兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/310.wav",
        "text": "多一點就可以重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/311.wav",
        "text": "兩年多就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/312.wav",
        "text": "員下一位就要講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/313.wav",
        "text": "現在你們都這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/314.wav",
        "text": "迫不及待開始用那個核三廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/315.wav",
        "text": "開始蓋一蓋要做光電板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/316.wav",
        "text": "夭壽喔這樣有夠糟蹋人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/317.wav",
        "text": "最後一個題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/318.wav",
        "text": "現在全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/319.wav",
        "text": "十六年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/320.wav",
        "text": "五十萬人有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/321.wav",
        "text": "國發會的請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/322.wav",
        "text": "我們有沒有可能學川普講話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/323.wav",
        "text": "來美國念書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/324.wav",
        "text": "給你綠卡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/325.wav",
        "text": "大學碩士博士我們有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/326.wav",
        "text": "我們的移民政策也太保守"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/327.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能對於高階人才"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/328.wav",
        "text": "就給他可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/329.wav",
        "text": "長期居留在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/330.wav",
        "text": "我們除了僑外生能夠留在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/331.wav",
        "text": "工作之外現在我們也想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/332.wav",
        "text": "積極來檢討我們的新經濟移民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/333.wav",
        "text": "那委員可不可以一起支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/334.wav",
        "text": "我就支持這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/335.wav",
        "text": "我覺得有必要引進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/336.wav",
        "text": "國外的人來臺灣念書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/337.wav",
        "text": "某種程度是認同臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/338.wav",
        "text": "嘛他畢業之後如果能留下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154388/339.wav",
        "text": "就給他長期居留"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我請卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/1.wav",
        "text": "麻煩再請卓院長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/2.wav",
        "text": "第一階段請經濟部第二階段請農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/3.wav",
        "text": "現在要請經濟部備詢嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/4.wav",
        "text": "蘇委員現在請經濟部麻煩請經濟部備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/5.wav",
        "text": "蘇委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/6.wav",
        "text": "好卓院長辛苦了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/7.wav",
        "text": "這兩天我到恆春"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/8.wav",
        "text": "因為我常去核三廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/9.wav",
        "text": "核三廠的廠長我們都很熟稔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/10.wav",
        "text": "稔我去核三廠旁邊叫做大光里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/11.wav",
        "text": "大光里那裡一個議員的阿嬤過世"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/12.wav",
        "text": "我就和這些民意代表鄉長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/13.wav",
        "text": "恆春半島四個鄉鎮的鄉長跟一些主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/14.wav",
        "text": "也有藍的也有綠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/15.wav",
        "text": "他們討論後的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/16.wav",
        "text": "他們說我們在這裡和這個核三廠為鄰三十多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/17.wav",
        "text": "了我們都沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/18.wav",
        "text": "我們都同意延役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/19.wav",
        "text": "我們要的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/20.wav",
        "text": "他們要的是他們的福利要比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/21.wav",
        "text": "他們要的是他們的醫療要好一點的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/22.wav",
        "text": "譬如說我們恆春旅遊醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/23.wav",
        "text": "蘇貞昌那個時候將它改成旅遊醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/24.wav",
        "text": "他們希望能改回來部立醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/25.wav",
        "text": "請卓院長考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/26.wav",
        "text": "因為他們覺得旅遊醫院太狹隘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/27.wav",
        "text": "了醫院的存在就是要給當地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/28.wav",
        "text": "所以他們希望改回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/29.wav",
        "text": "他們有一個質疑就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/30.wav",
        "text": "我們在這裡和核三廠"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/31.wav",
        "text": "這樣共伴三四十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/32.wav",
        "text": "評比也都不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/33.wav",
        "text": "有做過兩次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/34.wav",
        "text": "都同意它延役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/35.wav",
        "text": "我們都沒意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/36.wav",
        "text": "你們臺北這麼多意見到底是在做什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/37.wav",
        "text": "這個核三廠土地徵收是600公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/38.wav",
        "text": "圍起來的是400公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/39.wav",
        "text": "院長你可能也不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/40.wav",
        "text": "現在這兩個爐子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/41.wav",
        "text": "剛好在左邊角落那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/42.wav",
        "text": "裡占的面積很小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/43.wav",
        "text": "的土地上現在光電業者已經迫不及待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/44.wav",
        "text": "這些有草的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/45.wav",
        "text": "要去蓋光電板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/46.wav",
        "text": "這麼急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/47.wav",
        "text": "到底民進黨是跟光電業掛多深"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/48.wav",
        "text": "這是他們的質疑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/49.wav",
        "text": "院長稍微思考一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/50.wav",
        "text": "這是我替他們反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/51.wav",
        "text": "下一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/52.wav",
        "text": "這就是我們屏東車城"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/53.wav",
        "text": "城的這塊地你有看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/54.wav",
        "text": "蘇貞昌說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/55.wav",
        "text": "屏鵝公路最美麗的風景線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/56.wav",
        "text": "這樣叫最美麗的風景線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/57.wav",
        "text": "這種場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/58.wav",
        "text": "地這麼大或"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/59.wav",
        "text": "400公頃都蓋上光電板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/60.wav",
        "text": "所產生的電力一年差不多是三點多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/61.wav",
        "text": "核三廠兩個爐子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/62.wav",
        "text": "的產電量一年差不多107十幾億度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/63.wav",
        "text": "連尾數都不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/64.wav",
        "text": "到那如果要取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/65.wav",
        "text": "核三廠兩個爐子產生的電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/66.wav",
        "text": "這一種規模的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/67.wav",
        "text": "差不多要60座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/68.wav",
        "text": "我們有那麼多的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/69.wav",
        "text": "能接受這樣的蹂躪嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/70.wav",
        "text": "再來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/71.wav",
        "text": "東勢村東片村"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/72.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/73.wav",
        "text": "有的都是砂石就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/74.wav",
        "text": "所以不是用那個壞的地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/75.wav",
        "text": "有的是不錯的地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/76.wav",
        "text": "像我們現在講的農一農二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/77.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/78.wav",
        "text": "要好好的考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/79.wav",
        "text": "剛才我們賴士葆委員說得很辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/80.wav",
        "text": "我看院長也是涼涼的回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/81.wav",
        "text": "大家都希望臺灣好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/82.wav",
        "text": "都希望我們臺灣可以往下發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/83.wav",
        "text": "那核三廠除役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/84.wav",
        "text": "要建一個最大的光電區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/85.wav",
        "text": "我剛才也跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/86.wav",
        "text": "400公頃全部蓋滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/87.wav",
        "text": "也才三點多億度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/88.wav",
        "text": "你看看這塊600公頃的地這麼漂亮被徵收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/89.wav",
        "text": "然後把400公頃圍起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/90.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/91.wav",
        "text": "很誠懇的呼籲行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/92.wav",
        "text": "郭部長今天不在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/93.wav",
        "text": "我是很欽佩他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/94.wav",
        "text": "一個業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/95.wav",
        "text": "一個大老闆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/96.wav",
        "text": "一個董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/97.wav",
        "text": "跑來這裡當經濟部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/98.wav",
        "text": "想要好好的發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/99.wav",
        "text": "一下子說不缺電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/100.wav",
        "text": "一下子說缺電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/101.wav",
        "text": "一直轉來轉去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/102.wav",
        "text": "我覺得很失望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/103.wav",
        "text": "對於我們卓院長協調的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/104.wav",
        "text": "大家都很稱讚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/105.wav",
        "text": "所以我們是有條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/106.wav",
        "text": "第一個跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/107.wav",
        "text": "核電廠40年的壽命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/108.wav",
        "text": "是當時政府跟人民的契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/109.wav",
        "text": "我們必須在這個信賴原則底下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/110.wav",
        "text": "去做依法該做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/111.wav",
        "text": "當然有相關的法律可以去做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/112.wav",
        "text": "不過現在跟委員報告的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/113.wav",
        "text": "依照核管法施行細則第十六條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/114.wav",
        "text": "整個除役25年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/115.wav",
        "text": "這個核三廠是不能做其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/116.wav",
        "text": "流程要走25年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/117.wav",
        "text": "除役的流程才會走完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/118.wav",
        "text": "它不可以做其他不相關的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/119.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說的那個只是在廠區的外圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/120.wav",
        "text": "另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/121.wav",
        "text": "屏東有多處林相不佳的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/122.wav",
        "text": "現在因為整個考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/123.wav",
        "text": "它會回復做農用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/124.wav",
        "text": "但是有一些地力不佳的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/125.wav",
        "text": "它只要不是敏感地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/126.wav",
        "text": "也不具有生態棲息地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/127.wav",
        "text": "將來還是有考慮做光電來使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/128.wav",
        "text": "但是林相不佳的會回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/129.wav",
        "text": "這個請委員提供資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/130.wav",
        "text": "我們共同檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/131.wav",
        "text": "這個都是好的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/132.wav",
        "text": "台電昨天有提出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/133.wav",
        "text": "說如果在2點到10點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/134.wav",
        "text": "自己停電1小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/135.wav",
        "text": "1個月給他獎勵48塊獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/136.wav",
        "text": "說這種話這個可能要吃藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/137.wav",
        "text": "了有這種荒唐的想法嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/138.wav",
        "text": "次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/139.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/140.wav",
        "text": "這種需量反應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/141.wav",
        "text": "台電已經做了幾十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/142.wav",
        "text": "都是跟企業用電大戶做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/143.wav",
        "text": "現在是推到住家去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/144.wav",
        "text": "是自願性的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/145.wav",
        "text": "這個是美國日本都在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/146.wav",
        "text": "如果要引進綠能的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/147.wav",
        "text": "本來這個需量的調節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/148.wav",
        "text": "如果像現在美國在做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/149.wav",
        "text": "電動車的電也可以灌回給電網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/150.wav",
        "text": "這是一個試辦的性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/151.wav",
        "text": "這不是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/152.wav",
        "text": "核三廠只要降載"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/153.wav",
        "text": "一部一號機降載"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/154.wav",
        "text": "小琉球也跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/155.wav",
        "text": "南港也跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/156.wav",
        "text": "板橋也跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/157.wav",
        "text": "總有一大堆理由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/158.wav",
        "text": "每一次講的理由都是荒誕不羈啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/159.wav",
        "text": "聽起來都是很荒唐的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/160.wav",
        "text": "這個不要再當理由了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/161.wav",
        "text": "這個是因為小琉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/162.wav",
        "text": "琉球20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/163.wav",
        "text": "在連戰那個時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/164.wav",
        "text": "第1條海底電纜過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/165.wav",
        "text": "現在已經兩條了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/166.wav",
        "text": "用電量太大了不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/167.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/168.wav",
        "text": "是所以配電系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/169.wav",
        "text": "我們現在已經盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/170.wav",
        "text": "第一個人口成長很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/171.wav",
        "text": "第二個負載增加很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/172.wav",
        "text": "第三個設備比較老舊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/173.wav",
        "text": "會優先來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/174.wav",
        "text": "更換它的配電系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/175.wav",
        "text": "我們屏東"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/176.wav",
        "text": "有山有水有土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/177.wav",
        "text": "屏東有水有電希望台積電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/178.wav",
        "text": "現在呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/179.wav",
        "text": "有水沒電沒有台積電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/180.wav",
        "text": "我們很疼惜這塊土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/181.wav",
        "text": "屏東的水很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/182.wav",
        "text": "隘寮溪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/183.wav",
        "text": "二峰圳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/184.wav",
        "text": "東港溪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/185.wav",
        "text": "光是東港溪攔河堰一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/186.wav",
        "text": "就抽二十幾萬噸去高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/187.wav",
        "text": "高屏溪攔河堰也差不多抽30萬噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/188.wav",
        "text": "伏流水一天可以有80萬噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/189.wav",
        "text": "我非常深入去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/190.wav",
        "text": "跟屏科大教授"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/191.wav",
        "text": "報告委員屏東很美麗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/192.wav",
        "text": "不會沒電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/193.wav",
        "text": "啦水也很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/194.wav",
        "text": "恆春半島的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/195.wav",
        "text": "們的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/196.wav",
        "text": "聽進去請經濟部回座再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/197.wav",
        "text": "再來請農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/198.wav",
        "text": "我昨天晚上接到簡訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/199.wav",
        "text": "說食藥署長今天換人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/200.wav",
        "text": "昨天我們邱部長還在講說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/201.wav",
        "text": "空穴來風"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/202.wav",
        "text": "到底是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/203.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/204.wav",
        "text": "食藥署吳署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/205.wav",
        "text": "所有部會對其"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/206.wav",
        "text": "所屬主管的人事調動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/207.wav",
        "text": "我們都尊重部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/208.wav",
        "text": "昨天他應該是在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/209.wav",
        "text": "還沒有完成整個程序之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/210.wav",
        "text": "所以他不想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/211.wav",
        "text": "在那個時候做任何的證實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/212.wav",
        "text": "我想我體諒他的心情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/213.wav",
        "text": "也希望大家能夠瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/214.wav",
        "text": "但是他應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/215.wav",
        "text": "在完成程序之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/216.wav",
        "text": "就照既定的程序來走"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/217.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/218.wav",
        "text": "我們農業部這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/219.wav",
        "text": "我這裡要肯定一下農業部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/220.wav",
        "text": "還有我們的漁業署張署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/221.wav",
        "text": "屏東生技園區的雞蛋銷毀情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/222.wav",
        "text": "當時楊瓊瓔我還有民眾黨張啓楷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/223.wav",
        "text": "我們對陳部長非常讚賞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/224.wav",
        "text": "因為他勇敢面對任何的事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/225.wav",
        "text": "然後勇於承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/226.wav",
        "text": "說實在話很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/227.wav",
        "text": "我很不愛聽人家烏龍踅桌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/228.wav",
        "text": "但是這次黑鮪魚的事情處理得不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/229.wav",
        "text": "對於黑鮪魚轉成內銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/230.wav",
        "text": "這十幾年來價格都還不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/231.wav",
        "text": "但是因為中西太平洋漁業委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/232.wav",
        "text": "限制我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/233.wav",
        "text": "1,965公噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/234.wav",
        "text": "所以抓到那裡就要停了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/235.wav",
        "text": "結果在那中間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/236.wav",
        "text": "只有拍賣那一天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/237.wav",
        "text": "叫人來作秀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/238.wav",
        "text": "然後叫廠商來相挺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/239.wav",
        "text": "1公斤拍賣一萬三百塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/240.wav",
        "text": "第一尾是三百多公斤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/241.wav",
        "text": "1公斤剩800"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/242.wav",
        "text": "600"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/243.wav",
        "text": "一直掉掉掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/244.wav",
        "text": "到最後剩1公斤80"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/245.wav",
        "text": "100"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/246.wav",
        "text": "當天就通知"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/247.wav",
        "text": "他們馬上處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/248.wav",
        "text": "結果處理得不漂亮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/249.wav",
        "text": "啦部長那要怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/250.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/251.wav",
        "text": "把資訊提供給漁民的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/252.wav",
        "text": "那個時間太短了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/253.wav",
        "text": "因為時間太短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/254.wav",
        "text": "有一些漁船已經出海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/255.wav",
        "text": "要去抓也不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/256.wav",
        "text": "不抓也賠錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/257.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我們的檢討就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/258.wav",
        "text": "分配的時候我們會加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/259.wav",
        "text": "我們整個通報的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/260.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/261.wav",
        "text": "還有鬼頭刀一萬六千多噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/262.wav",
        "text": "欸還有大目鮪魚七萬多噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/263.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/264.wav",
        "text": "端午節之前的黑鮪魚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/265.wav",
        "text": "本身品質比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/266.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會利用這樣的調控"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/267.wav",
        "text": "讓漁民知道他的時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/268.wav",
        "text": "跟他抓的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/269.wav",
        "text": "一整年都可以吃到高品質的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/270.wav",
        "text": "我們就是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/271.wav",
        "text": "冷鏈不夠嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/272.wav",
        "text": "負45度以下的冷鏈不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/273.wav",
        "text": "我們的農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/274.wav",
        "text": "我們的漁業署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/275.wav",
        "text": "在補助各個漁會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/276.wav",
        "text": "速度太慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/277.wav",
        "text": "是不是品質也不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/278.wav",
        "text": "還是他們維護得不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/279.wav",
        "text": "1009百多噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/280.wav",
        "text": "產量300條400條一進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/281.wav",
        "text": "價格掉到100塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/282.wav",
        "text": "院長這樣你聽得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/283.wav",
        "text": "我們現在東港的鹽埔地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/284.wav",
        "text": "已經成立了一個冷鏈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/285.wav",
        "text": "現在正在規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/286.wav",
        "text": "你要讓他們停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/287.wav",
        "text": "6月12號就不能抓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/288.wav",
        "text": "但是6月9號才發公文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/289.wav",
        "text": "三天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/290.wav",
        "text": "船都出去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/291.wav",
        "text": "有的已經出去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/292.wav",
        "text": "有的已經抓一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/293.wav",
        "text": "到還要把牠丟掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/294.wav",
        "text": "丟到海裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/295.wav",
        "text": "情何以堪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/296.wav",
        "text": "啊部長哪有人這樣在搞的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/297.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/298.wav",
        "text": "當時我們就跟農業部有檢討過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/299.wav",
        "text": "未來對漁民的服務通告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/300.wav",
        "text": "公告的時效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/301.wav",
        "text": "要掌握得精確一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/302.wav",
        "text": "不要造成大家的困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/303.wav",
        "text": "要給他們補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/304.wav",
        "text": "我們深深地檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/305.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/306.wav",
        "text": "針對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/307.wav",
        "text": "我們有開始去規劃相關產業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/308.wav",
        "text": "至於這個措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/309.wav",
        "text": "我相信我們會跟漁民好好討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/310.wav",
        "text": "未來就這個部分怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/311.wav",
        "text": "做一個更好的精進作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/312.wav",
        "text": "就是要對漁民補償一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/313.wav",
        "text": "然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/314.wav",
        "text": "啦遊行的不要做啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/315.wav",
        "text": "那些錢省下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154389/316.wav",
        "text": "做基金啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/0.wav",
        "text": "立法院韓院長各位列席官員大家好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/1.wav",
        "text": "請主席請行政院卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/2.wav",
        "text": "麻煩再請卓院長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/3.wav",
        "text": "院長好院長這是我們第一次的總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/4.wav",
        "text": "我想在這邊跟院長討論一些民生議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/5.wav",
        "text": "首先是電價的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/6.wav",
        "text": "我想請教卓院長的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/7.wav",
        "text": "台電從4月1號開始調漲電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/8.wav",
        "text": "許多的房東也跟著調漲租金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/9.wav",
        "text": "電價從每度5元6元至7元漲幅是20%到40%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/10.wav",
        "text": "政府是一體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/11.wav",
        "text": "前內政部林右昌部長曾經允諾要修租屋定型化契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/12.wav",
        "text": "明定出租人收取之電費不可以超出該租賃標的之每期電費總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/13.wav",
        "text": "原來說5日就可以上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/14.wav",
        "text": "但是如今卻跳票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/15.wav",
        "text": "了上次也有委員在這邊問到這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/16.wav",
        "text": "院長您的回復說7月就會上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/17.wav",
        "text": "我想民眾都非常的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/18.wav",
        "text": "尤其是青年學子租屋族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/19.wav",
        "text": "族是不是可以請院長簡單地說明一下現在的進度為何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/20.wav",
        "text": "我知道今天內政部部長沒有來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/21.wav",
        "text": "如果院長不清楚沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/22.wav",
        "text": "但是請你說明一下對這件事情的態度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/23.wav",
        "text": "好感謝委員對這個議題的重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/24.wav",
        "text": "我記得前一陣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/25.wav",
        "text": "劉部長在這裡答復的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/26.wav",
        "text": "他說會把後續完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/27.wav",
        "text": "叫他再定一個時間向社會公期程就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/28.wav",
        "text": "7月會不會上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/29.wav",
        "text": "因為上一次你說7月可能就會上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/30.wav",
        "text": "我們一定在這個時程完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/31.wav",
        "text": "因為早一天完成就是保障更多租屋者的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/32.wav",
        "text": "尤其是青年學子租屋族"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/33.wav",
        "text": "因為現在生活成本非常地高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/34.wav",
        "text": "電價一漲所有物價都會漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/35.wav",
        "text": "邀請各部會針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/36.wav",
        "text": "租屋定型化契約的內容條款進行討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/37.wav",
        "text": "好好把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/38.wav",
        "text": "就是對租屋族早一日的保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/39.wav",
        "text": "跟您討論的是我們中部民眾的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/40.wav",
        "text": "也要讓院長更加瞭解本席的選區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/41.wav",
        "text": "整個大臺中市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/42.wav",
        "text": "中部地區的用電需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/43.wav",
        "text": "最大的火力發電廠在龍井"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/44.wav",
        "text": "院長能不能承諾臺中海線居民的用電需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/45.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該更受到保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/46.wav",
        "text": "台中火力發電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/47.wav",
        "text": "很長的時間一直是主力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/48.wav",
        "text": "啊現在我們持續把它改換成燃氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/49.wav",
        "text": "希望有一天對地方的衝擊會小一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/50.wav",
        "text": "當然它也穩定周遭的供電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/51.wav",
        "text": "甚至提供臺灣其他地區的穩定供電系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/52.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/53.wav",
        "text": "這就是我要跟你討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/54.wav",
        "text": "現在火力發電廠在臺中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/55.wav",
        "text": "有10部燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/56.wav",
        "text": "未來還要再興建4座燃氣機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/57.wav",
        "text": "拆除4座燃煤機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/58.wav",
        "text": "組保留6部作緊急備用發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/59.wav",
        "text": "儲氣槽的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/60.wav",
        "text": "從現在的5座要再增加4座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/61.wav",
        "text": "中火要增加9座燃氣機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/62.wav",
        "text": "\n我先聲明就是一路以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/63.wav",
        "text": "因為可以減輕燃煤的污染"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/64.wav",
        "text": "當地的鄉親也樂見用燃氣來取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/65.wav",
        "text": "但是必須要實質地換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/66.wav",
        "text": "在備載能量不足的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/67.wav",
        "text": "燃煤隨時都可能會上場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/68.wav",
        "text": "民眾的疑慮就是我的疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/69.wav",
        "text": "燃煤會不會變成常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/70.wav",
        "text": "可能就會變成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/71.wav",
        "text": "未拆除的6部燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/72.wav",
        "text": "在緊急的狀態之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/73.wav",
        "text": "隨時都會啟動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/74.wav",
        "text": "那就變成6加6"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/75.wav",
        "text": "現在用6部燃氣機組來取代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/76.wav",
        "text": "變成810萬瓩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/77.wav",
        "text": "再加上備用的這6部燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/78.wav",
        "text": "那麼臺中中部整個空氣污染的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/79.wav",
        "text": "會雪上加霜也會更加嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/80.wav",
        "text": "\n因為0403的大地震"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/81.wav",
        "text": "許多的電廠機組跳機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/82.wav",
        "text": "面臨震後檢修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/83.wav",
        "text": "也無預警的故障跳脫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/84.wav",
        "text": "備載容量過低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/85.wav",
        "text": "緊急向民間電廠購電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/86.wav",
        "text": "我擔心在供電網韌性不足的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/87.wav",
        "text": "我們原有備用的6部燃煤機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/88.wav",
        "text": "緊急使用會變成常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/89.wav",
        "text": "院長你可不可以針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/90.wav",
        "text": "緊急備用的構成要件在這邊說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/91.wav",
        "text": "好報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/92.wav",
        "text": "所謂緊急備用的機組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/93.wav",
        "text": "因為緊急備用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/94.wav",
        "text": "所以絕不輕言啟動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/95.wav",
        "text": "什麼條件之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/96.wav",
        "text": "現在我們也看不到任何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/97.wav",
        "text": "必須考慮它緊急啟動的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/98.wav",
        "text": "目前都看不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/99.wav",
        "text": "我們只說讓燃氣機組的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/100.wav",
        "text": "甚至做更多其他多元的綠能發展等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/101.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得這樣是滿足現在的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/102.wav",
        "text": "當然我們對於輸配電整個電網的韌性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/103.wav",
        "text": "還要加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/104.wav",
        "text": "我再請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/105.wav",
        "text": "不只是中火5加9座儲存槽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/106.wav",
        "text": "2022年動工26年要完工的2座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/107.wav",
        "text": "再加上外港區擴建4座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/108.wav",
        "text": "總共是12座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/109.wav",
        "text": "總共21座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/110.wav",
        "text": "未來整個臺中港有21座天然氣儲存槽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/111.wav",
        "text": "從戰略的角度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/112.wav",
        "text": "大家知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/113.wav",
        "text": "不管是受到天災的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/114.wav",
        "text": "海運的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/115.wav",
        "text": "或者是兩岸局勢的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/116.wav",
        "text": "一旦發生任何危機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/117.wav",
        "text": "將不堪設想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/118.wav",
        "text": "臺中港的居民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/119.wav",
        "text": "整個海線的居民生活在水深火熱當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/120.wav",
        "text": "危機四伏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/121.wav",
        "text": "院長可不可以替當地的民眾考慮一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/122.wav",
        "text": "你們應該召集各部會協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/123.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣分散管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/124.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/125.wav",
        "text": "是所以我們現在全力開發第三接收站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/126.wav",
        "text": "明年應該可以進行初期的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/127.wav",
        "text": "是在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/128.wav",
        "text": "可不可以告訴我在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/129.wav",
        "text": "我想要知道真的需要那麼多嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/130.wav",
        "text": "2加6加4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/131.wav",
        "text": "5加9加起來21座"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/132.wav",
        "text": "都放在臺中港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/133.wav",
        "text": "既然桃園要做三接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/134.wav",
        "text": "其實我們未來希望燃氣50%為主軸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/135.wav",
        "text": "加上綠能30%燃煤可以降到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/136.wav",
        "text": "以氣代煤是長期的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/137.wav",
        "text": "剛剛一開始我就說贊成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/138.wav",
        "text": "增加燃氣減少燃煤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/139.wav",
        "text": "但是我們從戰略的角度來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/140.wav",
        "text": "你把21座儲存槽通通放在臺中港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/141.wav",
        "text": "臺中港不是杳無人煙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/142.wav",
        "text": "臺中港是海線人口最精華的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/143.wav",
        "text": "要讓院長部長真正知道臺中港現有的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/144.wav",
        "text": "我也樂見院長部長一起到臺中港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/145.wav",
        "text": "我相信你們也去過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/146.wav",
        "text": "使得人口增加這個可能是你們沒有考慮到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/147.wav",
        "text": "所以我才想在這邊要求院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/148.wav",
        "text": "並反映整個臺中港的狀況以及民眾的心聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/149.wav",
        "text": "希望你們考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/150.wav",
        "text": "是不是該減少或者該怎麼分散可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/151.wav",
        "text": "我們就是考慮到它已經飽和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/152.wav",
        "text": "同時它也沒有能量再多負擔其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/153.wav",
        "text": "的所以才全力開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/154.wav",
        "text": "你擔不擔心工安事故或者是其他的不特定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/155.wav",
        "text": "現在臺中的電廠或是其他的天然氣接收站"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/156.wav",
        "text": "我認為經濟部跟所屬的中油台電都必須強力維護它的安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/157.wav",
        "text": "當然沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/158.wav",
        "text": "來看中火在22年10月還有23年11月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/159.wav",
        "text": "假設在興建過程或者未來營運管理的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/160.wav",
        "text": "或者是因為極端氣候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/161.wav",
        "text": "危機四伏的壓力之下可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/162.wav",
        "text": "在會後送個書面報告給委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/163.wav",
        "text": "好但是我要提醒中火也是大家關注的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/164.wav",
        "text": "昨天又一例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/165.wav",
        "text": "又是它的輸煤帶發生了狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/166.wav",
        "text": "工人當下就過世了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/167.wav",
        "text": "對我們感到很遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/168.wav",
        "text": "當然我們都很遺憾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/169.wav",
        "text": "儲氣槽這些東西未來不堪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/170.wav",
        "text": "也不可以發生任何的工安意外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/171.wav",
        "text": "\n再來我想請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/172.wav",
        "text": "燃氣的比例要高達50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/173.wav",
        "text": "但是依照目前的期程來看應該是穩定跳票中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/174.wav",
        "text": "目前的占比是39.57"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/175.wav",
        "text": "%本席不想跟你討論能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/176.wav",
        "text": "民眾要的是穩定便宜的電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/177.wav",
        "text": "但是你們做的是成本昂貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/178.wav",
        "text": "受到不確定因素影響程度高的電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/179.wav",
        "text": "你們有你們的政策規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/180.wav",
        "text": "甚至於背後有特定的能源廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/181.wav",
        "text": "民眾想管也管不了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/182.wav",
        "text": "但是現況就是不符合民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/183.wav",
        "text": "這一點十分明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/184.wav",
        "text": "除了發電來源之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/185.wav",
        "text": "加強變電所還有輸配電端的設備品質的維護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/186.wav",
        "text": "更加重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/187.wav",
        "text": "並以配電為核心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/188.wav",
        "text": "布建分散式的能量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/189.wav",
        "text": "加強電網韌性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/190.wav",
        "text": "減少超高壓變電所及電網的擴充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/191.wav",
        "text": "將重心放在電力需求面的管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/192.wav",
        "text": "目前已經進入夏日用電高峰期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/193.wav",
        "text": "很多地區無預警的停電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/194.wav",
        "text": "也變成常態"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/195.wav",
        "text": "像昨天板橋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/196.wav",
        "text": "無預警的大跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/197.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得這一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/198.wav",
        "text": "是什麼小動物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/199.wav",
        "text": "又要把責任推給牠們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/200.wav",
        "text": "民眾在毫無防備的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/201.wav",
        "text": "遭到這樣的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/202.wav",
        "text": "輕則家電設備損壞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/203.wav",
        "text": "重則廠商公司的生產線停擺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/204.wav",
        "text": "機械設備整組壞掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/205.wav",
        "text": "掉行政院一直強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/206.wav",
        "text": "臺灣不缺電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/207.wav",
        "text": "是電網不夠強韌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/208.wav",
        "text": "電網過於老舊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/209.wav",
        "text": "會造成整區大跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/210.wav",
        "text": "我現在想要請教台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/211.wav",
        "text": "台電的強化電網韌性計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/212.wav",
        "text": "未來十年要投入5,645億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/213.wav",
        "text": "是整體為臺灣電網把脈的強韌計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/214.wav",
        "text": "但是我看到其中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/215.wav",
        "text": "臺中市兩年占不到50億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/216.wav",
        "text": "1,000億裡面不到5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/217.wav",
        "text": "要全面提升供電穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/218.wav",
        "text": "中火最大的電廠在臺中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/219.wav",
        "text": "臺中市人口第二多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/220.wav",
        "text": "但是整個把脈的強韌計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/221.wav",
        "text": "還有老舊電網更新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/222.wav",
        "text": "預算配比占不到5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/223.wav",
        "text": "這是不是很可笑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/224.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得是什麼原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/225.wav",
        "text": "會讓臺中市的占比這麼小"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/226.wav",
        "text": "臺中市尤其是海線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/227.wav",
        "text": "是鹽害重點防治區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/228.wav",
        "text": "中火在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/229.wav",
        "text": "污染也在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/230.wav",
        "text": "更應該增加更多的配電設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/231.wav",
        "text": "紅外線的檢測還有各項的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/232.wav",
        "text": "及早發現設備的老舊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/233.wav",
        "text": "疲乏弱點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/234.wav",
        "text": "然後來安排更換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/235.wav",
        "text": "避免因事故發生停電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/236.wav",
        "text": "或造成更大的危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/237.wav",
        "text": "這才是重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/238.wav",
        "text": "我想請教院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/239.wav",
        "text": "能不能要求台電承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/240.wav",
        "text": "加強海線的電力維護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/241.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/242.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/243.wav",
        "text": "十年花5,645億的這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/244.wav",
        "text": "我跟郭部長曾經討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/245.wav",
        "text": "我希望能夠縮短時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/246.wav",
        "text": "提高效率做得更快更多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/247.wav",
        "text": "我們如果能夠縮短時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/248.wav",
        "text": "或許可以節省更多的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/249.wav",
        "text": "那我們願意用獎勵的措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/250.wav",
        "text": "鼓勵所有的人來節省"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/251.wav",
        "text": "來提早完成這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/252.wav",
        "text": "所以整個的內容應該會重新調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/253.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/254.wav",
        "text": "院長我在這裡有三個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/255.wav",
        "text": "我再跟你說一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/256.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是我剛剛提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/257.wav",
        "text": "海線是鹽害的重點區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/258.wav",
        "text": "這部分要加強防鹽害設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/259.wav",
        "text": "加強礙子清洗第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/260.wav",
        "text": "也就是中火的所在地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/261.wav",
        "text": "電纜電線地下化的比率要提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/262.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要地下化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/263.wav",
        "text": "就是地下化才能減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/264.wav",
        "text": "鹽害侵蝕這些輸配電設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/265.wav",
        "text": "設備院長這是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/266.wav",
        "text": "中火在海線在臺中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/267.wav",
        "text": "停電之苦這是非常諷刺的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/268.wav",
        "text": "檢討台電對海線居民的用電保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/269.wav",
        "text": "這三點非常的重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/270.wav",
        "text": "我知道時間有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/271.wav",
        "text": "那我在這邊也要跟院長說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/272.wav",
        "text": "下一次的交通組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/273.wav",
        "text": "質詢我也會跟你再做更詳細的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/274.wav",
        "text": "就是臺中大肚的和美大橋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/275.wav",
        "text": "和美交流道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/276.wav",
        "text": "但現在的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/277.wav",
        "text": "就是大肚溪端"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/278.wav",
        "text": "大大肚端的交通會變成一個非常嚴重的瓶頸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/279.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我會把計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/280.wav",
        "text": "在下一次的交通組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/281.wav",
        "text": "質詢我會更詳盡地提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/282.wav",
        "text": "因為也需要經濟部的支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/283.wav",
        "text": "我們要利用防汛道路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/284.wav",
        "text": "利用堤防這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/285.wav",
        "text": "做為疏散大肚區居民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/286.wav",
        "text": "南北交通的一個重要路線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/287.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154390/288.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席麻煩請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/1.wav",
        "text": "麻煩再請卓院長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/2.wav",
        "text": "馬委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/3.wav",
        "text": "院長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/4.wav",
        "text": "包括南投縣仁愛鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/5.wav",
        "text": "的很多高麗菜很多農作物都受到冰雹的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/6.wav",
        "text": "甚至半個小時之內把整片的很多很多農作物都打壞掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/7.wav",
        "text": "我們現在特別要提的是目前全球可能是氣候變遷的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/8.wav",
        "text": "不是過冷就是過熱不是水太多就是乾旱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/9.wav",
        "text": "所以對農民也造成很多的衝擊和影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/10.wav",
        "text": "不管是民進黨政府也好國民黨政府也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/11.wav",
        "text": "所以推了很多相關的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/12.wav",
        "text": "可是今天本席也要在這裡特別為農民請命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/13.wav",
        "text": "因為南投是一個農業觀光大縣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/14.wav",
        "text": "尤其近幾年很多農業都受到非常大的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/15.wav",
        "text": "對他們也造成不小的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/16.wav",
        "text": "但這些畢竟是不可抗力的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/17.wav",
        "text": "可是人為的就要由政府付很大的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/18.wav",
        "text": "\n我們最近接到很多陳情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/19.wav",
        "text": "針對農保的部分突然被註銷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/20.wav",
        "text": "他們有很多人都已經八九十歲了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/21.wav",
        "text": "在民國78年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/22.wav",
        "text": "之前其實很多人並不會想要特別加入農保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/23.wav",
        "text": "可是因為政府的政策希望可以保障農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/24.wav",
        "text": "在他們都還不知道未來好不好的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/25.wav",
        "text": "政府是強制性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/26.wav",
        "text": "尤其是如果有農會保險的身分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/27.wav",
        "text": "一定要強制納保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/28.wav",
        "text": "可是當他們保了三十年四十年甚至更久的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/29.wav",
        "text": "現在卻突然被政府說你們的資格可能有疑慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/30.wav",
        "text": "比如你有工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/31.wav",
        "text": "像這樣子就被取消掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/32.wav",
        "text": "這個有沒有什麼樣的一個具體作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/33.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊說明委員一直在關心這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/34.wav",
        "text": "想辦法找到一個可以解決的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/35.wav",
        "text": "如果你的工商登記是跟農業有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/36.wav",
        "text": "這個部分可以免除"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/37.wav",
        "text": "的不是農業以外的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/38.wav",
        "text": "那個沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/39.wav",
        "text": "因為相關的農保條例已經規定在那邊了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/40.wav",
        "text": "但我們現在去強調的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/41.wav",
        "text": "他的老農年金不會因為他退保了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/42.wav",
        "text": "不能再加保而損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/43.wav",
        "text": "所以他的權益完全還是有保障的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/44.wav",
        "text": "這是我想我們在溝通的時候去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/45.wav",
        "text": "部長我們要說的不是他有保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/46.wav",
        "text": "因為這本來就是他應得的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/47.wav",
        "text": "那是他自己繳的保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/48.wav",
        "text": "我們現在講的是你突然把它註銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/49.wav",
        "text": "那我想請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/50.wav",
        "text": "如果他的工商登記只要跟農業有相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/51.wav",
        "text": "全部都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/52.wav",
        "text": "比如國姓的咖啡農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/53.wav",
        "text": "像他們去申請工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/54.wav",
        "text": "他們為什麼去申請工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/55.wav",
        "text": "因為那個時候政府要求他們必須要做標章的認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/56.wav",
        "text": "就要求一定要做工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/57.wav",
        "text": "所以他們因為這樣的因素去申請工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/58.wav",
        "text": "對只要和農業相關有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/59.wav",
        "text": "我們會儘量來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/60.wav",
        "text": "因為他們是被取消的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/61.wav",
        "text": "喔這也是在陳情的對象以內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/62.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/63.wav",
        "text": "第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/64.wav",
        "text": "如果他們開雜貨店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/65.wav",
        "text": "比如說像過去在很早期三四十年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/66.wav",
        "text": "甚至四五十年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/67.wav",
        "text": "南投縣很多偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/68.wav",
        "text": "他們除了種植農作物以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/69.wav",
        "text": "其實如果光靠種那些菜或蔬果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/70.wav",
        "text": "並沒有辦法支撐他們的生活"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/71.wav",
        "text": "所以有人可能還開了雜貨店"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/72.wav",
        "text": "他們把種的東西放在雜貨店賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/73.wav",
        "text": "那算不算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/74.wav",
        "text": "因為也要做工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/75.wav",
        "text": "不是只跟農業有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/76.wav",
        "text": "還有其他的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/77.wav",
        "text": "我還是要跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/78.wav",
        "text": "還是可以去加保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/79.wav",
        "text": "會請部長來陳情的都是八九十歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/80.wav",
        "text": "人要加保什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/81.wav",
        "text": "而且你們的加保條件是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/82.wav",
        "text": "一個93歲的老人家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/83.wav",
        "text": "你叫他還要再去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/84.wav",
        "text": "耕作那個時候是政府要他強制納保的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/85.wav",
        "text": "這是第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/86.wav",
        "text": "\n我再請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/87.wav",
        "text": "如果像現在有很多農地被拿去種電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/88.wav",
        "text": "在上面設置相關的太陽能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/89.wav",
        "text": "他們也要做工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/90.wav",
        "text": "那他可不可以維持農保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/91.wav",
        "text": "沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/92.wav",
        "text": "繼續從事漁業就沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/93.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/94.wav",
        "text": "他從事漁業那是地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/95.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講的那些農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/96.wav",
        "text": "他們也都在他們的土地上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/97.wav",
        "text": "而且真的種了一輩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/98.wav",
        "text": "沒有人力資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/99.wav",
        "text": "在沒有水沒有電的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/100.wav",
        "text": "要爬山涉水還要去搬水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/101.wav",
        "text": "那個年代他們就在從事農業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/102.wav",
        "text": "一輩子都待在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/103.wav",
        "text": "可是他們的資格被取消掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/104.wav",
        "text": "今天要賣電給台電的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/105.wav",
        "text": "它相關在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/106.wav",
        "text": "你如果是用土地還可以繼續做農業生產使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/107.wav",
        "text": "做標準那他們這些被取消的也都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/108.wav",
        "text": "啊當他在他的雜貨店賣他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/109.wav",
        "text": "養的雞這也是農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/110.wav",
        "text": "啊當然這個沒有確切的農業資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/111.wav",
        "text": "可是像他種植的蔬果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/112.wav",
        "text": "都在自己的門前賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/113.wav",
        "text": "你們卻把他取消了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/114.wav",
        "text": "事實上他就都是直接在從事農業的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/115.wav",
        "text": "所以你們的標準很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/116.wav",
        "text": "為了配合政府的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/117.wav",
        "text": "只要是跟光電有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/118.wav",
        "text": "就可以他申請工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/119.wav",
        "text": "賣電跟農業有什麼關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/120.wav",
        "text": "漁電共生的光電業者是不能參加農保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/121.wav",
        "text": "的但是他跟農民合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/122.wav",
        "text": "農民本身的農保資格不會被取消"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/123.wav",
        "text": "所以還是農民對這塊地的那"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/124.wav",
        "text": "如果香菇農在他自己種香菇的棚架上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/125.wav",
        "text": "那他的資格算不算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/126.wav",
        "text": "菇農的資格還是算啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/127.wav",
        "text": "為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/128.wav",
        "text": "他本身是農民他去種菇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/129.wav",
        "text": "因為在我們的法條上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/130.wav",
        "text": "因為你要做這些都是為了要打假農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/131.wav",
        "text": "可是你把真的農民全部犧牲掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/132.wav",
        "text": "你現在幫他們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/133.wav",
        "text": "的是在上面種電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/134.wav",
        "text": "可是當時說他們不合格是因為他們辦了工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/135.wav",
        "text": "不只可以賣電給台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/136.wav",
        "text": "我不知道這樣的標準差異在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/137.wav",
        "text": "他們也實際在從農啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/138.wav",
        "text": "而且繳了一輩子你們說停就停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/139.wav",
        "text": "他什麼都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/140.wav",
        "text": "我想委員非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/141.wav",
        "text": "我們一般不會主動針對65歲以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/142.wav",
        "text": "最主要是因為當時紓困的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/143.wav",
        "text": "我們今天是要講一個公平正義的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/144.wav",
        "text": "當你們知道這些人是實際一輩子從農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/145.wav",
        "text": "而且他繳了一輩子農保的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/146.wav",
        "text": "可是只因為他有工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/147.wav",
        "text": "他被你取消了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/148.wav",
        "text": "你的條例裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/149.wav",
        "text": "如果就部長剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/150.wav",
        "text": "只要他的條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/151.wav",
        "text": "他就可以符合農保的資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/152.wav",
        "text": "這是我們照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/153.wav",
        "text": "結果你現在可以幫他們解釋說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/154.wav",
        "text": "如果你在上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/155.wav",
        "text": "你賣電給台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/156.wav",
        "text": "你是可以的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/157.wav",
        "text": "但這些原來的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/158.wav",
        "text": "真正的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/159.wav",
        "text": "這樣的政府是有為有能的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/160.wav",
        "text": "而且這個人數並不是很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/161.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/162.wav",
        "text": "從今年1月到5月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/163.wav",
        "text": "總共才404位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/164.wav",
        "text": "他們繳了很多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/165.wav",
        "text": "耶政府好像在騙他一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/166.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/167.wav",
        "text": "部長不是對我們說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/168.wav",
        "text": "而是你如果真的要照顧農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/169.wav",
        "text": "你們必須解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/170.wav",
        "text": "當你可以解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/171.wav",
        "text": "在你的菇寮上面架設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/172.wav",
        "text": "可以申請工商登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/173.wav",
        "text": "而且這樣符合農保資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/174.wav",
        "text": "當你做這樣解釋的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/175.wav",
        "text": "你就應該有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/176.wav",
        "text": "幫真正一輩子從農的這些老農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/177.wav",
        "text": "當他們往生以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/178.wav",
        "text": "要的那區區的三十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/179.wav",
        "text": "三十多萬你把它取消掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/180.wav",
        "text": "增加兒女的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/181.wav",
        "text": "是他們現在最關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/182.wav",
        "text": "是他們現在最擔心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/183.wav",
        "text": "有很多的子女回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/184.wav",
        "text": "還要負擔他這一筆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/185.wav",
        "text": "他們來陳情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/186.wav",
        "text": "主要是為了這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/187.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是不是可以請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/188.wav",
        "text": "去做全面的檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/189.wav",
        "text": "對這個部分可以有怎麼樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/190.wav",
        "text": "一個解套的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/191.wav",
        "text": "來幫助我們真正的這些老農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/192.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/193.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/194.wav",
        "text": "我覺得委員提出的這個觀察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/195.wav",
        "text": "不無可以檢討之處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/196.wav",
        "text": "我們常常說養殖為本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/197.wav",
        "text": "農事為本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/198.wav",
        "text": "養殖為本才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/199.wav",
        "text": "綠能加值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/200.wav",
        "text": "還是要養殖或有從事農事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/201.wav",
        "text": "都應該存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/202.wav",
        "text": "如果從這個標準來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/203.wav",
        "text": "它有相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/204.wav",
        "text": "參酌委員剛剛的這個講法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/205.wav",
        "text": "我們做實質上的檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/206.wav",
        "text": "或必要的解釋跟說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/207.wav",
        "text": "普遍要照顧到真正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/208.wav",
        "text": "還在從事農事的這些農民朋友們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/209.wav",
        "text": "當我們這些政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/210.wav",
        "text": "是要照顧農民的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/211.wav",
        "text": "沒有理由我們用法來犧牲他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/212.wav",
        "text": "或者就把他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/213.wav",
        "text": "自己的權益通通斷送掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/214.wav",
        "text": "而且他是真的繳了好幾十年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/215.wav",
        "text": "因為你主要是為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/216.wav",
        "text": "假農民嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/217.wav",
        "text": "包括剛剛的漁電共生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/218.wav",
        "text": "我們的漁電共生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/219.wav",
        "text": "大家可以回去檢視看看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/220.wav",
        "text": "他的魚是可以存活的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/221.wav",
        "text": "是可以長大的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/222.wav",
        "text": "如果像這樣子的條件都不行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/223.wav",
        "text": "情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/224.wav",
        "text": "你還可以給他有農保的資格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/225.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼這些不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/226.wav",
        "text": "我們非常感謝剛剛院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/227.wav",
        "text": "跟部長有特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/228.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分去做研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/229.wav",
        "text": "可以儘速給我們相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/230.wav",
        "text": "結果的一些答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/231.wav",
        "text": "大概多久的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/232.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/233.wav",
        "text": "我會儘快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/234.wav",
        "text": "因為這個牽涉到一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/235.wav",
        "text": "例外條件的設定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/236.wav",
        "text": "非常久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/237.wav",
        "text": "我們也解決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/238.wav",
        "text": "像你剛才說剩下四百零多個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/239.wav",
        "text": "其實本來是一萬多個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/240.wav",
        "text": "所以我們有很多包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/241.wav",
        "text": "打開了只要跟農業有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/242.wav",
        "text": "工商業登記我們都可以認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/243.wav",
        "text": "那現在就是最後一個部長電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/244.wav",
        "text": "長電跟農業沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/245.wav",
        "text": "就是賣電跟農業沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/246.wav",
        "text": "那是政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/247.wav",
        "text": "對那是兩件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/248.wav",
        "text": "所以當你這個可以認定的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/249.wav",
        "text": "你沒有理由不認定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/250.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望可以很快的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/251.wav",
        "text": "至少在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/252.wav",
        "text": "兩個禮拜之內或一個月之內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/253.wav",
        "text": "給我們一些初步的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/254.wav",
        "text": "我們會隨時跟委員聯絡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/255.wav",
        "text": "院長可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/256.wav",
        "text": "也是跟農民有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/257.wav",
        "text": "就是我們在採購農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/258.wav",
        "text": "跟肥料的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/259.wav",
        "text": "我們為什麼要將個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/260.wav",
        "text": "資寫得這麼清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/261.wav",
        "text": "包括他的身分證字號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/262.wav",
        "text": "包括他的姓名電話住址"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/263.wav",
        "text": "還有他的所有權狀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/264.wav",
        "text": "比如他的土地面積等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/265.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們要做到這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/266.wav",
        "text": "農民買個肥料跟農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/267.wav",
        "text": "有必要這樣嗎全世界有哪一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/268.wav",
        "text": "民主國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/269.wav",
        "text": "全世界有哪一個國家這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/270.wav",
        "text": "他們是有類似的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/271.wav",
        "text": "的大規模耕作制度是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/272.wav",
        "text": "那我們這樣做的目的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/273.wav",
        "text": "希望透過這樣的方式讓農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/274.wav",
        "text": "更精準的用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/275.wav",
        "text": "更精準的施肥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/276.wav",
        "text": "然後後面相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/277.wav",
        "text": "事宜包括我們未來要做的這些數位的農民服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/278.wav",
        "text": "我們都會利用這種所謂的農藥實名制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/279.wav",
        "text": "跟肥料實名制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/280.wav",
        "text": "部長全世界沒有其他國家這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/281.wav",
        "text": "因為要身分證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/282.wav",
        "text": "我去買個肥料老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/283.wav",
        "text": "就是像剛剛部長提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/284.wav",
        "text": "我們希望包括農藥殘留量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/285.wav",
        "text": "還有確保食安的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/286.wav",
        "text": "就是讓他有正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/287.wav",
        "text": "使用方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/288.wav",
        "text": "可是事實上並不然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/289.wav",
        "text": "其實除了本末倒置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/290.wav",
        "text": "或者擾民以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/291.wav",
        "text": "而且讓所有農民都覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/292.wav",
        "text": "因為老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/293.wav",
        "text": "肥料那麼大一包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/294.wav",
        "text": "如果今天我沒有種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/295.wav",
        "text": "比如像院長比如像部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/296.wav",
        "text": "你們沒事會去買肥料來家裡放嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/297.wav",
        "text": "那個也要花錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/298.wav",
        "text": "而且那個會潮溼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/299.wav",
        "text": "而且這麼大的量體你還要有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/300.wav",
        "text": "特別的地方來擺放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/301.wav",
        "text": "所以一般的農民會特別花錢去把它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/302.wav",
        "text": "多買回來放在家裡嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/303.wav",
        "text": "從過去到現在都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/304.wav",
        "text": "是近幾年才有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/305.wav",
        "text": "你是不相信農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/306.wav",
        "text": "如果你要讓農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/307.wav",
        "text": "有正確使用肥料跟農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/308.wav",
        "text": "必須從農民教育開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/309.wav",
        "text": "我要跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/310.wav",
        "text": "農藥實名制肥料實名制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/311.wav",
        "text": "第一次去登記的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/312.wav",
        "text": "需要填這些資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/313.wav",
        "text": "報一個電話號碼就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/314.wav",
        "text": "所以是第一次登錄而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/315.wav",
        "text": "部長因為你的目的是希望可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/316.wav",
        "text": "控制用藥就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/317.wav",
        "text": "我的面積原來可能五分地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/318.wav",
        "text": "可是我如果賣掉三分地四分地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/319.wav",
        "text": "了我還是一樣買那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/320.wav",
        "text": "我現在說的是你必須要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/321.wav",
        "text": "根本解決第一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/322.wav",
        "text": "像肥料還有農藥的製造商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/323.wav",
        "text": "他們在成分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/324.wav",
        "text": "去做最好的控管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/325.wav",
        "text": "當你們知道以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/326.wav",
        "text": "再給農民最好的一個用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/327.wav",
        "text": "我相信對我們的食安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/328.wav",
        "text": "安全都會有更大的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/329.wav",
        "text": "部長也許知道如果像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/330.wav",
        "text": "現在的天氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/331.wav",
        "text": "太熱太冷其實他用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/332.wav",
        "text": "農藥已經不太適用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/333.wav",
        "text": "可以使用的農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/334.wav",
        "text": "品項很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/335.wav",
        "text": "當農民他使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/336.wav",
        "text": "長不出來的時候他可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/337.wav",
        "text": "有兩種情況第一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/338.wav",
        "text": "用沒有核定沒有核准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/339.wav",
        "text": "的藥第二個有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/340.wav",
        "text": "必須加量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/341.wav",
        "text": "因為你一直在用舊的農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/342.wav",
        "text": "我們人的藥品也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/343.wav",
        "text": "久了就會有抗藥性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/344.wav",
        "text": "耐受性所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/345.wav",
        "text": "現在有很多的新藥其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/346.wav",
        "text": "以千倍萬倍計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/347.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在核准的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/348.wav",
        "text": "兩千他用不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/349.wav",
        "text": "把它稀釋兩千不行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/350.wav",
        "text": "變成1001千不行變五百零"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/351.wav",
        "text": "所以它的殘留量就會增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/352.wav",
        "text": "兩次無效他就會用第三次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/353.wav",
        "text": "所以其實對我們本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/354.wav",
        "text": "要的一個目的是沒有幫助的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/355.wav",
        "text": "的施用我們的宣導持續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/356.wav",
        "text": "透過教育訓練第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/357.wav",
        "text": "因為在實名制裡面他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/358.wav",
        "text": "種的東西是會被呈現的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/359.wav",
        "text": "這樣子農藥行這些人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/360.wav",
        "text": "就可以給他一個比較正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/361.wav",
        "text": "部長這些就是農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/362.wav",
        "text": "農藥行跟我的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/363.wav",
        "text": "因為我們不是第一年實施"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/364.wav",
        "text": "它已經實施一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/365.wav",
        "text": "有些藥就是不行比如"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/366.wav",
        "text": "為什麼日本進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/367.wav",
        "text": "的草莓我們要把它放寬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/368.wav",
        "text": "可是在國內的草莓農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/369.wav",
        "text": "是不可以使用那些農藥的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/370.wav",
        "text": "我們為了讓日本的草莓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/371.wav",
        "text": "可以進口因為被檢出一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/372.wav",
        "text": "兩次三次結果我們開放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/373.wav",
        "text": "日本的草莓農可以使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/374.wav",
        "text": "可是我們國內的農民是不准"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/375.wav",
        "text": "的可見他要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/376.wav",
        "text": "必須要有效的農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/377.wav",
        "text": "要的是有效你規定是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/378.wav",
        "text": "你叫我用什麼我都可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/379.wav",
        "text": "因為他花錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/380.wav",
        "text": "他不是很愛用農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/381.wav",
        "text": "因為那也是要錢他也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/382.wav",
        "text": "工還不容易所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/383.wav",
        "text": "當他們碰到這些困難的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/384.wav",
        "text": "希望我們的農政單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/385.wav",
        "text": "我們的行政單位是幫他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/386.wav",
        "text": "解決問題而不是製造問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/387.wav",
        "text": "現在給他們就是非常大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/388.wav",
        "text": "困擾而且讓他們覺得他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/389.wav",
        "text": "是賊是被政府防範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/390.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/391.wav",
        "text": "實名制在過去幾年推的時候其實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/392.wav",
        "text": "它的滿意度是超過九成的而且"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/393.wav",
        "text": "目前每一個農藥行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/394.wav",
        "text": "以前是70%加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/395.wav",
        "text": "而已現在是100%加入這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/396.wav",
        "text": "我們有一個相關的農藥行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/397.wav",
        "text": "本身本來是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/398.wav",
        "text": "用紙本也拒絕加入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/399.wav",
        "text": "這個東西然後經過這兩三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/400.wav",
        "text": "它現在已經100%都加入我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/401.wav",
        "text": "後面的一個POS系統表示說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/402.wav",
        "text": "我是這幾天又"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/403.wav",
        "text": "特別接到很多農民"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/404.wav",
        "text": "跟農藥行他們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/405.wav",
        "text": "對不然我不曉得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/406.wav",
        "text": "有這麼多的狀況今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/407.wav",
        "text": "他們會提出來是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/408.wav",
        "text": "顯然不符實際的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/409.wav",
        "text": "我們現在特別在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/410.wav",
        "text": "這裡要提出來是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/411.wav",
        "text": "全世界沒有人這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/412.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣的教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/413.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的農業臺灣的技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/414.wav",
        "text": "各方面都比全球"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/415.wav",
        "text": "好我不相信"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/416.wav",
        "text": "我們的農民教不會我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/417.wav",
        "text": "必須要用這樣的方式採"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/418.wav",
        "text": "強勢去要他們個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/419.wav",
        "text": "的方式來限制我剛剛講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/420.wav",
        "text": "了我原來有五分地如果賣掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/421.wav",
        "text": "三分地你也不知道因為你只登記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/422.wav",
        "text": "那一次我想我們的個資裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/423.wav",
        "text": "對於後續的用肥用料是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/424.wav",
        "text": "需要一些指導的農藥行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/425.wav",
        "text": "可以透過這個方式來指導部長我再"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/426.wav",
        "text": "跟您說因為那個要錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/427.wav",
        "text": "所以有些人當我買來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/428.wav",
        "text": "要種筊白筍的時候我還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/429.wav",
        "text": "剩一些我就拿去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/430.wav",
        "text": "因為它在高麗菜上面可能不能用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/431.wav",
        "text": "我現在要說的是給農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/432.wav",
        "text": "正確的一個觀念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/433.wav",
        "text": "比你去做這樣的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/434.wav",
        "text": "尤其是跟人民拿個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/435.wav",
        "text": "這是非常嚴重的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/436.wav",
        "text": "有很多對農民的政策並不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/437.wav",
        "text": "友善所以我們今天提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/438.wav",
        "text": "是希望我們行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/439.wav",
        "text": "可以就這個部分再去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/440.wav",
        "text": "適時的檢視跟調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/441.wav",
        "text": "如果可以讓農民更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/442.wav",
        "text": "如果可以讓我們食安更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/443.wav",
        "text": "可以讓我們的農藥使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/444.wav",
        "text": "得更好我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/445.wav",
        "text": "這是大家都期待的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/446.wav",
        "text": "因為我們當然也不希望吃到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/447.wav",
        "text": "很多農藥可是顯然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/448.wav",
        "text": "你那個效果並不是那麼好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/449.wav",
        "text": "所以我們今天特別提出來是不是可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/450.wav",
        "text": "就這個部分去做調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/451.wav",
        "text": "跟改善我想後續宣導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/452.wav",
        "text": "的部分我們會再來加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/453.wav",
        "text": "更把它放就是讓農民在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/454.wav",
        "text": "買農藥的時候他是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/455.wav",
        "text": "完全不會有影響然後反而是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/456.wav",
        "text": "對他會有幫助我們會朝這個目標來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/457.wav",
        "text": "部長對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/458.wav",
        "text": "不要跟農民要個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/459.wav",
        "text": "因為我們士農工商我們買了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/460.wav",
        "text": "千千百百種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/461.wav",
        "text": "的東西甚至"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/462.wav",
        "text": "有的也都有政府補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/463.wav",
        "text": "沒有人需要去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/464.wav",
        "text": "繳你的個資說我有多少土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/465.wav",
        "text": "然後我的身分證是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/466.wav",
        "text": "然後我才可以買到我的肥料跟農藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/467.wav",
        "text": "沒事大家不會買農藥回去喝嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/468.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/469.wav",
        "text": "我們還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/470.wav",
        "text": "在我們這個自由民主法治的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/471.wav",
        "text": "如果這是不恰當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/472.wav",
        "text": "的一個政策我們還是應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/473.wav",
        "text": "適時地調整因為剛剛我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/474.wav",
        "text": "其他國家有嗎顯然好像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/475.wav",
        "text": "也沒有特別我們的氣候環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/476.wav",
        "text": "還有我們作物的多樣性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/477.wav",
        "text": "跟其他的國家是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/478.wav",
        "text": "完全不一樣的部長全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/479.wav",
        "text": "有很多國家我們的氣候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/480.wav",
        "text": "作物多樣性別的國家都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/481.wav",
        "text": "嗎我們去東南亞我們有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/482.wav",
        "text": "的他們很多也都有啊像你去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/483.wav",
        "text": "中國大陸他們很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/484.wav",
        "text": "也都有啊像你去美國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/485.wav",
        "text": "歐洲有些我們有的他們也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/486.wav",
        "text": "啊面對氣候的變遷大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/487.wav",
        "text": "的條件都是同等的我現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/488.wav",
        "text": "要說的是這個個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/489.wav",
        "text": "是不是有必要因為它隨時在調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/490.wav",
        "text": "嘛可是你們要了農民的個資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/491.wav",
        "text": "還有很多人這樣跟我講他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/492.wav",
        "text": "我們是賊嗎我們會多買回來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/493.wav",
        "text": "放嗎然後那個都要錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/494.wav",
        "text": "啊所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/495.wav",
        "text": "我們從這個角度去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/496.wav",
        "text": "然後去怎麼樣做更好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/497.wav",
        "text": "一個規劃讓我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/498.wav",
        "text": "農業農藥或者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/499.wav",
        "text": "肥料的使用讓它更好我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/500.wav",
        "text": "務實地去做調整會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/501.wav",
        "text": "比較好這個部分院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/502.wav",
        "text": "報告委員第一個請農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/503.wav",
        "text": "農民個資務必要安全的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/504.wav",
        "text": "保護絕對不作他用"
    },
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/505.wav",
        "text": "以維護隱私第二個這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/506.wav",
        "text": "實名制應該行之多年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/507.wav",
        "text": "如果我們可以從安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/508.wav",
        "text": "考量流向去處價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/509.wav",
        "text": "的穩定或是用量的建議上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/510.wav",
        "text": "有其他更適當的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/511.wav",
        "text": "方式我請農業部來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/512.wav",
        "text": "有更好的輕政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/513.wav",
        "text": "便民的方式我們朝這個方向來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/514.wav",
        "text": "我會特別一直提個資"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/515.wav",
        "text": "一方面就是我相信"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/516.wav",
        "text": "農業部我相信我們各部會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/517.wav",
        "text": "我相信行政院我們相信"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/518.wav",
        "text": "我們所有的政府部門不會這麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/519.wav",
        "text": "可是在必要的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/520.wav",
        "text": "好像這個個資全部都流"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/521.wav",
        "text": "出去了他的對象很"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/522.wav",
        "text": "清楚比如說農民他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/523.wav",
        "text": "就給什麼樣的訊息這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/524.wav",
        "text": "我們特別提出來是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/525.wav",
        "text": "希望可以重新檢視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/526.wav",
        "text": "因為當它如果不斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/527.wav",
        "text": "不斷地發生的時候對我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/528.wav",
        "text": "民主的國家是一個很大的傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/529.wav",
        "text": "不曉得是誰給出去的可是你"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/530.wav",
        "text": "沒有辦法控制他都是商人"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/531.wav",
        "text": "或者他可能是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/532.wav",
        "text": "將本求利這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/533.wav",
        "text": "如果可以不要你就不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/534.wav",
        "text": "這個部分還是希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/535.wav",
        "text": "可以儘快給我們一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/536.wav",
        "text": "結論跟"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/537.wav",
        "text": "具體的作法好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/538.wav",
        "text": "謝謝謝謝接下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/539.wav",
        "text": "還是針對我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/540.wav",
        "text": "南投縣因為南投縣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/541.wav",
        "text": "的茶葉博覽會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/542.wav",
        "text": "我想部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/543.wav",
        "text": "其實應該也參加過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/544.wav",
        "text": "茶葉其實不"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/545.wav",
        "text": "只是臺灣重要的一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/546.wav",
        "text": "產業尤其是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/547.wav",
        "text": "南投縣非常重要的產業"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/548.wav",
        "text": "過去兩岸關係還不錯的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/549.wav",
        "text": "有很多茶葉其實是可以銷到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/550.wav",
        "text": "也還不錯畢竟它的人口就是多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/551.wav",
        "text": "可是近幾年在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/552.wav",
        "text": "兩岸關係比較嚴峻的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/553.wav",
        "text": "情況之下所有的限制"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/554.wav",
        "text": "相對提高很多"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/555.wav",
        "text": "的茶種了以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/556.wav",
        "text": "堆得倉庫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/557.wav",
        "text": "滿山滿谷"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/558.wav",
        "text": "這是很多茶農的心聲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/559.wav",
        "text": "會在南投縣已經舉辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/560.wav",
        "text": "超過十年以上而且越來越"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/561.wav",
        "text": "成功每年吸引的人數"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/562.wav",
        "text": "官方的統計上面至少有超過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/563.wav",
        "text": "70萬人次它的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/564.wav",
        "text": "在會中或者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/565.wav",
        "text": "會後活動以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/566.wav",
        "text": "去做採購其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/567.wav",
        "text": "也達到很高的一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/568.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在看到"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/569.wav",
        "text": "我們農業部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/570.wav",
        "text": "升格為農業部以後"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/571.wav",
        "text": "我們現在協助的經費反而"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/572.wav",
        "text": "越來越少其實你只是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/573.wav",
        "text": "用很少的錢可是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/574.wav",
        "text": "你創造很大的一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/575.wav",
        "text": "性價比"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/576.wav",
        "text": "其實是非常高的可是我不知道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/577.wav",
        "text": "為什麼你要把它減少"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/578.wav",
        "text": "因為這對我們來說好不容易"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/579.wav",
        "text": "可以有一個成功的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/580.wav",
        "text": "的一個年度的活動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/581.wav",
        "text": "它可能會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/582.wav",
        "text": "造成影響因為這一次如果沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/583.wav",
        "text": "這麼多的經費"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/584.wav",
        "text": "它可能要縮小規模這個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/585.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以在這裡特別"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/586.wav",
        "text": "請院長跟部長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/587.wav",
        "text": "可以多做協助因為它"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/588.wav",
        "text": "剛開始設計的規模大概就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/589.wav",
        "text": "會跟去年前年一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/590.wav",
        "text": "在疫情過後好不容易又"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/591.wav",
        "text": "恢復了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/592.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明像這個部分我們一定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/593.wav",
        "text": "全力支持特別是茶博覽會其實"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/594.wav",
        "text": "這幾年來已經非常非常有名"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/595.wav",
        "text": "它好像還有提另外一個計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/596.wav",
        "text": "我們一定讓這個活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/597.wav",
        "text": "順利的舉辦為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/598.wav",
        "text": "經費真的有不足的地方我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/599.wav",
        "text": "再看用怎麼樣的方式來協助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/600.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長因為我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/601.wav",
        "text": "現在是希望樂見"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/602.wav",
        "text": "各個產業真的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/603.wav",
        "text": "有些像觀光"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/604.wav",
        "text": "產業現在也都勒緊褲帶"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/605.wav",
        "text": "有很多人其實都沒有辦法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/606.wav",
        "text": "好好去做生意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/607.wav",
        "text": "對他們來說都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/608.wav",
        "text": "部分只要花一點錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/609.wav",
        "text": "就可以我們還是謝謝"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/610.wav",
        "text": "部長剛剛的承諾我們"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/611.wav",
        "text": "也希望因為今年很快就要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/612.wav",
        "text": "辦了是不是可以儘快有一個"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/613.wav",
        "text": "我會請同仁"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/614.wav",
        "text": "針對實際的部分看"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/615.wav",
        "text": "還有怎麼樣的缺口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/616.wav",
        "text": "我們再來想辦法協助"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/617.wav",
        "text": "這個活動辦得很好我們都可以去參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/618.wav",
        "text": "是縣政府主辦在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/619.wav",
        "text": "也代替縣長還有我們所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/620.wav",
        "text": "很熱誠的邀請院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/621.wav",
        "text": "還有部長還有所有的部會大家"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/622.wav",
        "text": "可以一起去參加當然還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/623.wav",
        "text": "我們的院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/624.wav",
        "text": "歡迎大家因為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/625.wav",
        "text": "就是讓農民更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/626.wav",
        "text": "不然他們要面對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/627.wav",
        "text": "挑戰也太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/628.wav",
        "text": "\n另外還有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/629.wav",
        "text": "我們鳥嘴潭"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/630.wav",
        "text": "人工湖的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/631.wav",
        "text": "這個部分經濟部水利署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/632.wav",
        "text": "大概斥資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/633.wav",
        "text": "建設鳥嘴潭人工湖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/634.wav",
        "text": "它主要的目的當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/635.wav",
        "text": "是為了提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/636.wav",
        "text": "用水主要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/637.wav",
        "text": "每日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/638.wav",
        "text": "鳥嘴潭人工湖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/639.wav",
        "text": "可以提供25萬噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/640.wav",
        "text": "彰化占了21"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/641.wav",
        "text": "萬噸草屯4萬噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/642.wav",
        "text": "可是在這過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/643.wav",
        "text": "其實南投縣在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/644.wav",
        "text": "人工湖的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/645.wav",
        "text": "設計建造過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/646.wav",
        "text": "甚至連用地的取得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/647.wav",
        "text": "地方也都儘量協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/648.wav",
        "text": "面臨到很大的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/649.wav",
        "text": "好像有一點變質了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/650.wav",
        "text": "希望未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/651.wav",
        "text": "用水需求以外還可以成為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/652.wav",
        "text": "中潭公路很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/653.wav",
        "text": "現在快要完工了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/654.wav",
        "text": "青翠毯森林公園"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/655.wav",
        "text": "空間發展構想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/656.wav",
        "text": "就好像沒有下文了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/657.wav",
        "text": "這個部分是不是可以請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/658.wav",
        "text": "簡要說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/659.wav",
        "text": "抱歉這個我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/660.wav",
        "text": "帶回去再去瞭解一下好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/661.wav",
        "text": "輸血一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/662.wav",
        "text": "買好的營養品幫你補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/663.wav",
        "text": "營養讓你更好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/664.wav",
        "text": "不會因為你輸血以後就變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/665.wav",
        "text": "得很衰弱可是你做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/666.wav",
        "text": "好以後那個承諾好像不見了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/667.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們特別希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/668.wav",
        "text": "做檢討後續應該要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/669.wav",
        "text": "怎麼做實質的推動另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/670.wav",
        "text": "這是不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/671.wav",
        "text": "的用了我們所有的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/672.wav",
        "text": "可是我們卻受限於倒數第二"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/673.wav",
        "text": "這個部分也請經濟部及行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/674.wav",
        "text": "請院長特別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/675.wav",
        "text": "關注這個部分好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/676.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝馬文君委員的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154391/677.wav",
        "text": "謝謝卓院長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/0.wav",
        "text": "報告委員這是經濟部與台電的評估不是你們彙整嗎這是你應該彙整的是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/1.wav",
        "text": "我記得是你因為能源政策是歸經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/2.wav",
        "text": "對對可是這個是經濟部獨自可以處理的事情是經濟部預估的3%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/3.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們評估的方式是台電先做評估你們的評估是3%對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/4.wav",
        "text": "它本來是2.5%後來能源署再把它加碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/5.wav",
        "text": "今天因為經濟部長出國沒有來他說未來每年成長的3%主要是以光電來補它的缺口是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/6.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們確保我們供電端上來的一定多於退休的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/7.wav",
        "text": "所以以2030年為例我們評估大概會增加需求700萬瓩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/8.wav",
        "text": "但我們會增加910萬瓩的供應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/9.wav",
        "text": "我先跟你說這是109年到113年的發電結構我相信你們看到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/10.wav",
        "text": "我們從110年開始每年的發電成長大概是1%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/11.wav",
        "text": "再生能源部分占比大概是1%占總發電結構的1%2%及1.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/12.wav",
        "text": "我們再細看再生能源的部分把電力供需狀況細看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/13.wav",
        "text": "恐怕光電的成長都沒有辦法來彌補請問未來怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/14.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們所謂的增加是指燃氣機組方面的增加我會確保這個電絕對夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/15.wav",
        "text": "所以未來如果增加3%就是以火力增加而不是以光電增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/16.wav",
        "text": "光電是再多出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/17.wav",
        "text": "光電是再多出來的嘛所以我們看到總統府淨零碳排委員會的副召集人童董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/18.wav",
        "text": "他有說我們是不是還在陶醉我們的減碳成績"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/19.wav",
        "text": "劉主委這是你的責任了吧我很清楚淨零碳排是國發會的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/20.wav",
        "text": "到底我們淨零碳排的成績是如何你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/21.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們是有一個減碳路徑在2030年要減24%加減1"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/22.wav",
        "text": "個百分點最近我們剛盤點完成大概我們目標可以到23%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/23.wav",
        "text": "我再問你一個我們每度電的碳排量相較於鄰近貿易競爭的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/24.wav",
        "text": "是不是偏高這是機密嗎可不可以講不要等到我出了這個院會你才說這是機密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/25.wav",
        "text": "這不是機密我們是從四個重要的減碳路徑來劃分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/26.wav",
        "text": "一個是台電的減碳路徑一個是交通的減碳路徑等等這四個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/27.wav",
        "text": "所以在維持臺灣經濟競爭力的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/28.wav",
        "text": "總統府淨零碳排的副召集人童子賢董事長說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/29.wav",
        "text": "你們贊不贊同卓院長你贊不贊同卓院長你說啊贊不贊同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/30.wav",
        "text": "我們現在絕對沒有能力核能30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/31.wav",
        "text": "對啊你不用講核能綠能也沒有辦法到達30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/32.wav",
        "text": "我們是循序漸進的多元發展那什麼時候可能到達這樣的配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/33.wav",
        "text": "──綠能30%核能30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/34.wav",
        "text": "配比50%30%20%當中就是這樣的配比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/35.wav",
        "text": "那是要循序漸進很多的途徑很多的過程很多的多元發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/36.wav",
        "text": "所以我想要請問卓院長你還是要抱著非核家園的神主牌嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/37.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣才能夠協助臺灣在國際淨零碳排減碳這一塊上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/38.wav",
        "text": "我們可以循序漸進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/39.wav",
        "text": "報告委員2002年環境基本法第23條所訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/40.wav",
        "text": "政府應訂定計畫逐步達成非核家園目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/41.wav",
        "text": "這不是我的神主牌這是我們共同的法律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/42.wav",
        "text": "大家都在停電你知道現在發生的是什麼情況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/43.wav",
        "text": "台電的電路維修是經常性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/44.wav",
        "text": "一下子這一區一下子那一區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/45.wav",
        "text": "大家輪流維修輪流停電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/46.wav",
        "text": "為了就是國家供電可以穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/47.wav",
        "text": "但是什麼時候我們才可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/48.wav",
        "text": "讓大家不用擔心沒有電用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/49.wav",
        "text": "不用擔心開冷氣會害怕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/50.wav",
        "text": "沒有人希望浪費冷氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/51.wav",
        "text": "啊大家都希望節省電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/52.wav",
        "text": "啊因為大家都是節儉出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/53.wav",
        "text": "在怎麼樣的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/54.wav",
        "text": "大家用電才能夠用得安心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/55.wav",
        "text": "不會擔心一吹冷氣就跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/56.wav",
        "text": "是我們共同的法律我們一起依法行政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/57.wav",
        "text": "再來我剛剛也跟委員答復過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/58.wav",
        "text": "經濟部台電要用10年的時間再強化電網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/59.wav",
        "text": "我認為時間太長了我要把它縮短"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/60.wav",
        "text": "甚至縮到一半如果可能的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/61.wav",
        "text": "我們節省出來的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/62.wav",
        "text": "我們做一些獎勵措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/63.wav",
        "text": "早一天把電網韌性強化起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/64.wav",
        "text": "就是對全民供電安全的最佳保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/65.wav",
        "text": "我們朝這個方向繼續再努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/66.wav",
        "text": "現在郭部長在美國談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/67.wav",
        "text": "境外關內境內關外的問題是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/68.wav",
        "text": "增加出口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/69.wav",
        "text": "會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/70.wav",
        "text": "會我們當然會努力來推動貿易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/71.wav",
        "text": "但郭部長因為是從半導體來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/72.wav",
        "text": "最大部分的是中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/73.wav",
        "text": "半導體很多的產品不需要關稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/74.wav",
        "text": "但是我們的中小企業我們的精密機械"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/75.wav",
        "text": "我們的傳產出口是需要關稅的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/76.wav",
        "text": "陳次長你非常清楚對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/77.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/78.wav",
        "text": "那境外關內以及境內關外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/79.wav",
        "text": "可以對於我們的中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/80.wav",
        "text": "對於我們的傳產帶來多大的助益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/81.wav",
        "text": "你是不是可以說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/82.wav",
        "text": "報告委員境外關內的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/83.wav",
        "text": "是讓我們的中小企業可以成群結隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/84.wav",
        "text": "以大帶小到海外支援當地的供應鏈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/85.wav",
        "text": "在這個情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/86.wav",
        "text": "因為我們用政府出面團結所有的中小企業業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/87.wav",
        "text": "在那邊我們有比較強的談判能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/88.wav",
        "text": "會跟當地政府談一些優惠措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/89.wav",
        "text": "而且談一些比較好的我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/90.wav",
        "text": "除了要讓我們的半導體有競爭力以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/91.wav",
        "text": "我希望你瞭解我們的中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/92.wav",
        "text": "我們的傳產也希望藉由這樣子整條鏈帶動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/93.wav",
        "text": "也要一起出去好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/94.wav",
        "text": "是這我們同意我們也支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/95.wav",
        "text": "那未來境內關外呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/96.wav",
        "text": "境內關外是希望引進國外的名品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/97.wav",
        "text": "還有美食還有高階的消費者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/98.wav",
        "text": "可以到臺灣來促進臺灣服務業的消費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/99.wav",
        "text": "提高臺灣的薪資所得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/100.wav",
        "text": "未來我們如果境外關內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/101.wav",
        "text": "我們的半導體以及我們傳產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/102.wav",
        "text": "例如到了日本熊本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/103.wav",
        "text": "那是不是要帶動我們臺灣的傳產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/104.wav",
        "text": "甚至是飲食業者到日本去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/105.wav",
        "text": "日本人很喜歡我們的珍珠奶茶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/106.wav",
        "text": "很喜歡我們的小籠包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/107.wav",
        "text": "很喜歡臺灣所有的美食"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/108.wav",
        "text": "是不是也能帶出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/109.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼樣推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/110.wav",
        "text": "可以這是我們在努力的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/111.wav",
        "text": "我們比方跟印度已經在討論說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/112.wav",
        "text": "會不會能夠建一個臺灣城"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/113.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的產業在那邊有群聚的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/114.wav",
        "text": "現在是已經在討論中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/115.wav",
        "text": "那日本呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/116.wav",
        "text": "日本我們會規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/117.wav",
        "text": "日本也會規劃嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/118.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/119.wav",
        "text": "那還有哪一個國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/120.wav",
        "text": "歐洲會不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/121.wav",
        "text": "對不起剛才沒聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/122.wav",
        "text": "歐洲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/123.wav",
        "text": "歐洲我們也會努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/124.wav",
        "text": "不止讓半導體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/125.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的傳產都跟著半導體出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/126.wav",
        "text": "讓我們臺灣的美食"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/127.wav",
        "text": "也跟著半導體出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/128.wav",
        "text": "能夠讓我們臺灣的經濟發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/129.wav",
        "text": "這是我們大家希望的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/130.wav",
        "text": "是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/131.wav",
        "text": "最後我想要請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/132.wav",
        "text": "我們二林中科園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/133.wav",
        "text": "低用水低污染的園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/134.wav",
        "text": "我們彰化人沒對不起你們吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/135.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/136.wav",
        "text": "我們也有投票給你們賴總統吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/137.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/138.wav",
        "text": "我們二林的中科園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/139.wav",
        "text": "現在一直招商不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/140.wav",
        "text": "有可能是用水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/141.wav",
        "text": "或等等問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/142.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法做再生水廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/143.wav",
        "text": "二林這個園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/144.wav",
        "text": "我們希望它是低用水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/145.wav",
        "text": "低排碳的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/146.wav",
        "text": "它的再生水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/147.wav",
        "text": "未來可能達到這個園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/148.wav",
        "text": "用水量的一半"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/149.wav",
        "text": "所以現在積極在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/150.wav",
        "text": "再生水的開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/151.wav",
        "text": "拜託你儘快規劃好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/152.wav",
        "text": "因為有非常多的產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/153.wav",
        "text": "如果談成功了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/154.wav",
        "text": "非常多的產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/155.wav",
        "text": "像輝達所說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/156.wav",
        "text": "AI的產業也要進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/157.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠解決用水的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/158.wav",
        "text": "不會用到農民的水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/159.wav",
        "text": "我們要製造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/160.wav",
        "text": "我們要有新的再生水廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/161.wav",
        "text": "還有二林精密機械園區院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/162.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/163.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就是用再生水來做主要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/164.wav",
        "text": "其他的水自來水等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/165.wav",
        "text": "用一些備援的方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/166.wav",
        "text": "其實民間有非常多的特登工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/167.wav",
        "text": "特登工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/168.wav",
        "text": "有可能在105年之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/169.wav",
        "text": "設立的就沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/170.wav",
        "text": "這是一個歷史的演變過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/171.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都要共同面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/172.wav",
        "text": "共同解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/173.wav",
        "text": "如果未來我們有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/174.wav",
        "text": "讓二林精密機械園區過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/175.wav",
        "text": "即便我們不一定說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/176.wav",
        "text": "全部都是以精密機械園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/177.wav",
        "text": "我們可以改名叫二林產業園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/178.wav",
        "text": "我們可以讓更多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/179.wav",
        "text": "給這些臺灣的傳產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/180.wav",
        "text": "給我們的中小企業一條活路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/181.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/182.wav",
        "text": "有關於工廠的相關問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/183.wav",
        "text": "經濟部再請地方政府也一起來合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/184.wav",
        "text": "經濟部來瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/185.wav",
        "text": "是不是陳次長可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/186.wav",
        "text": "對沒錯因為依照工廠輔導法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/187.wav",
        "text": "我們本來就有在輔導這些特登工廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/188.wav",
        "text": "但是如果有新的園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/189.wav",
        "text": "我們也會跟他們一起來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/190.wav",
        "text": "這個要跟地方政府一起來合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/191.wav",
        "text": "對因為這其實是大家共同需要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/192.wav",
        "text": "共同需要解決的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/193.wav",
        "text": "我相信在臺灣各縣市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/194.wav",
        "text": "都有相關的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/195.wav",
        "text": "原本設計是精密機械園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/196.wav",
        "text": "未來如果我們擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/197.wav",
        "text": "也許不叫精密機械"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/198.wav",
        "text": "或者叫產業園區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/199.wav",
        "text": "是不是就可以解決我們的精密機械"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/200.wav",
        "text": "其實郭部長也說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/201.wav",
        "text": "我們的精密機械產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/202.wav",
        "text": "跟半導體產業已經"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/203.wav",
        "text": "可以解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/204.wav",
        "text": "也許我們的精密機械"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/205.wav",
        "text": "就可以去到相關半導體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/206.wav",
        "text": "初階的產地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/207.wav",
        "text": "也可以促進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/208.wav",
        "text": "我們精密機械產業的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/209.wav",
        "text": "我相信這都是為了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/210.wav",
        "text": "臺灣所有經濟發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/211.wav",
        "text": "以及我們所有勞工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/212.wav",
        "text": "以及中小企業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/213.wav",
        "text": "還有所有的民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/214.wav",
        "text": "我希望不要分黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/215.wav",
        "text": "我們共同來做好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/216.wav",
        "text": "卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/217.wav",
        "text": "好的謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/218.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154392/219.wav",
        "text": "以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/0.wav",
        "text": "感謝大會主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/1.wav",
        "text": "各部會首長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/2.wav",
        "text": "經濟部部長及農業部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/3.wav",
        "text": "請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/4.wav",
        "text": "院長還有兩位部長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/5.wav",
        "text": "丁委員好祝福你天天快樂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/6.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/7.wav",
        "text": "感謝院長及兩位部長這段時間的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/8.wav",
        "text": "我在這裡也要跟院長及兩位部長討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/9.wav",
        "text": "也希望行政院農業部及經濟部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/10.wav",
        "text": "因為地層下陷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/11.wav",
        "text": "有些地區甚至低於海平面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/12.wav",
        "text": "地勢比較低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/13.wav",
        "text": "雨時排水系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/14.wav",
        "text": "如果是過去施作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/15.wav",
        "text": "常常造成淹水或海水倒灌的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/16.wav",
        "text": "現在地方政府的統籌分配款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/17.wav",
        "text": "金額還沒有辦法針對這些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/18.wav",
        "text": "來一一改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/19.wav",
        "text": "潮淹水的影我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/20.wav",
        "text": "差不多淹到2公里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/21.wav",
        "text": "遠我們當時去現場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/22.wav",
        "text": "高天文潮非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/23.wav",
        "text": "附近的養殖業都造成非常大的損失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/24.wav",
        "text": "當初陳建仁院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/25.wav",
        "text": "會勘瞭解災情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/26.wav",
        "text": "他也特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/27.wav",
        "text": "陳建仁前院長對地方的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/28.wav",
        "text": "幫助地方共同來解決水患的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/29.wav",
        "text": "剛才我們說到颱風跟異常大潮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/30.wav",
        "text": "現在又已經6月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/31.wav",
        "text": "當地民眾都很緊張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/32.wav",
        "text": "目前緊急要做的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/33.wav",
        "text": "就是要規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/34.wav",
        "text": "我們讓我們民眾不要再因為水患而緊張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/35.wav",
        "text": "是報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/36.wav",
        "text": "我知道萡子寮這個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/37.wav",
        "text": "所以他也很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/38.wav",
        "text": "在這個地方大家生活上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/39.wav",
        "text": "跟一些工作上的不順"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/40.wav",
        "text": "不方便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/41.wav",
        "text": "初步進行對於萡子寮漁港的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/42.wav",
        "text": "未來還有編列很多預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/43.wav",
        "text": "要來進行是不是請部長跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/44.wav",
        "text": "感謝委員對雲林一些漁港的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/45.wav",
        "text": "因為地層下陷以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/46.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是有關碼頭加高的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/47.wav",
        "text": "疏濬的部分今年已經編列兩千四百零多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/48.wav",
        "text": "所以會全力支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/49.wav",
        "text": "另外在漁港的建設工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/50.wav",
        "text": "我們過去5年已經補助兩億兩千多萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/51.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠早日完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/52.wav",
        "text": "有關海砂一直聚集在港口的這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/53.wav",
        "text": "我們漁民要出海要出去捕魚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/54.wav",
        "text": "過去直接出海出去很快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/55.wav",
        "text": "個航道出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/56.wav",
        "text": "可能要多浪費幾個鐘頭的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/57.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分是不是可以拜託部長順便"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/58.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們會跟海委會這邊來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/59.wav",
        "text": "出港以後會因為海風的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/60.wav",
        "text": "有一些沙子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/61.wav",
        "text": "子會阻擋到漁港出口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/62.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們來想辦法看怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/63.wav",
        "text": "好感謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/64.wav",
        "text": "\n第2項是針對我們各鄉鎮的水利建設"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/65.wav",
        "text": "有關這個水利問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/66.wav",
        "text": "我們雲林縣政府有很多應急工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/67.wav",
        "text": "在我的選區海線這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/68.wav",
        "text": "因為我們濁水溪跟北港溪流域的區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/69.wav",
        "text": "所需要的排水系統很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/70.wav",
        "text": "地形又以平原比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/71.wav",
        "text": "最近這幾年極端氣候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/72.wav",
        "text": "我們為了要解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/73.wav",
        "text": "濬都很需要儘快來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/74.wav",
        "text": "這都需要儘快來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/75.wav",
        "text": "我們虎尾最主要是有一條三合大排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/76.wav",
        "text": "造成老舊的排水溝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/77.wav",
        "text": "水量多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/78.wav",
        "text": "排水的速度就比較慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/79.wav",
        "text": "慢常常造成我們新吉里"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/80.wav",
        "text": "這都差不多是二十幾年的工程了另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/81.wav",
        "text": "關係到北港重要的排水系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/82.wav",
        "text": "北港朝天宮前面這條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/83.wav",
        "text": "像這些種種問題很多都需要應急需要解決方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/84.wav",
        "text": "可以多編一些預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/85.wav",
        "text": "能夠有充足的經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/86.wav",
        "text": "也要拜託卓院長是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/87.wav",
        "text": "可以編列多一點的治水經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/88.wav",
        "text": "讓我們雲林縣可以來解決這些長久的問題好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/89.wav",
        "text": "是報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/90.wav",
        "text": "治水的問題一直是政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/91.wav",
        "text": "長期以來很重視的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/92.wav",
        "text": "我們好幾年來也編列很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/93.wav",
        "text": "圳路改善工程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/94.wav",
        "text": "重劃區的農路改善也有26件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/95.wav",
        "text": "這些都照優先順序要來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/96.wav",
        "text": "案排水的部分請經濟部來說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/97.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我們這個前瞻計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/98.wav",
        "text": "已經報行政院了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/99.wav",
        "text": "前瞻計畫不是今年就結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/100.wav",
        "text": "雲林縣是我們看起來必須要優先處理的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/101.wav",
        "text": "所以這個前瞻計畫一定會在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/102.wav",
        "text": "當然啦跟次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/103.wav",
        "text": "次長拜託縣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/104.wav",
        "text": "我們這些立委當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/105.wav",
        "text": "然有我們選民的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/106.wav",
        "text": "有很多緊急的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/107.wav",
        "text": "讓我們有為民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/108.wav",
        "text": "意思就是額外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/109.wav",
        "text": "的經費讓我們幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/110.wav",
        "text": "解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/111.wav",
        "text": "再拜託你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/112.wav",
        "text": "農作物的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/113.wav",
        "text": "都非常失望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/114.wav",
        "text": "格再三思一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/115.wav",
        "text": "\n我在這裡也要向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/116.wav",
        "text": "要保障我們農民的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/117.wav",
        "text": "但是對農民來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/118.wav",
        "text": "得不到比較好的價錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/119.wav",
        "text": "爭取也沒有得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/120.wav",
        "text": "相當正面的回應本席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/121.wav",
        "text": "現在參與到了所以我要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/122.wav",
        "text": "積極來爭取我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/123.wav",
        "text": "雲林縣農民的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/124.wav",
        "text": "部長強調大蒜的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/125.wav",
        "text": "蒜頭的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/126.wav",
        "text": "我收到消息"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/127.wav",
        "text": "有大量進口蒜頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/128.wav",
        "text": "那個時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/129.wav",
        "text": "阿根廷西班牙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/130.wav",
        "text": "埃及的蒜頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/131.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/132.wav",
        "text": "應該是以阿根廷為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/133.wav",
        "text": "埃及的部分是為輔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/134.wav",
        "text": "因為不同的月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/135.wav",
        "text": "我們一定會保障我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/136.wav",
        "text": "蒜農的生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/137.wav",
        "text": "會跟我們生產的時間我們賣的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/138.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/139.wav",
        "text": "是我們臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/140.wav",
        "text": "缺蒜頭的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/141.wav",
        "text": "剛好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/142.wav",
        "text": "是我們臺灣蒜頭出產的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/143.wav",
        "text": "這樣是不是埃及的蒜頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/144.wav",
        "text": "會打壓到我們臺灣本土蒜頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/145.wav",
        "text": "盤商去跟蒜農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/146.wav",
        "text": "收蒜頭時都說價錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/147.wav",
        "text": "就是埃及的蒜頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/148.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣打壓到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/149.wav",
        "text": "的價錢這是我們在基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/150.wav",
        "text": "所瞭解的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/151.wav",
        "text": "所以在這裡要拜託部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/152.wav",
        "text": "因為我剩3分鐘的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/153.wav",
        "text": "關稅配額300多噸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/154.wav",
        "text": "國際貿易赤字這是我們一定要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/155.wav",
        "text": "阿根廷的蒜頭它的出產期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/156.wav",
        "text": "和我們臺灣的出產期是一模一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/157.wav",
        "text": "它進來明顯打壓到我們本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/158.wav",
        "text": "如果有辦法的話就是暫緩到6"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/159.wav",
        "text": "7月以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/160.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣的蒜頭用完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/161.wav",
        "text": "要開始吃進口蒜頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/162.wav",
        "text": "部分我一直希望卓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/163.wav",
        "text": "我們農民保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/164.wav",
        "text": "所以拜託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/165.wav",
        "text": "關稅局進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/166.wav",
        "text": "合理的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/167.wav",
        "text": "感謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/168.wav",
        "text": "農業部針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/169.wav",
        "text": "花生跟大蒜這兩項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/170.wav",
        "text": "特別是我們現在用配額的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/171.wav",
        "text": "配額加上高關稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/172.wav",
        "text": "然後針對剛剛委員講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/173.wav",
        "text": "我們回去會再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/174.wav",
        "text": "依現在來講8月至10月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/175.wav",
        "text": "所以我們不是反對進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/176.wav",
        "text": "而是說這個進口的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/177.wav",
        "text": "壓低臺灣農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/178.wav",
        "text": "因為這幾年的天氣變化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/179.wav",
        "text": "我回去再跟我們同仁討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/180.wav",
        "text": "好感謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/181.wav",
        "text": "還有一項我還是要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/182.wav",
        "text": "粉蟯剛才我們說到糧食的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/183.wav",
        "text": "粉蟯我收到很多陳情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/184.wav",
        "text": "因為氣候異常"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/185.wav",
        "text": "我們農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/186.wav",
        "text": "說這不是天災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/187.wav",
        "text": "是水質或是飼料的因素"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/188.wav",
        "text": "因此不符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/189.wav",
        "text": "我們真的也不知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/190.wav",
        "text": "要用什麼方式來幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/191.wav",
        "text": "我們來找出一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/192.wav",
        "text": "對策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/193.wav",
        "text": "還是另外用基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/194.wav",
        "text": "來協助農民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/195.wav",
        "text": "大量死亡的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/196.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154393/197.wav",
        "text": "農產品進口時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席請卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/1.wav",
        "text": "請卓院長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/2.wav",
        "text": "張委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/3.wav",
        "text": "卓院長你好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/4.wav",
        "text": "今天是國會改革以後第一天總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/5.wav",
        "text": "我看你一大早進來就說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/6.wav",
        "text": "今天是以身試法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/7.wav",
        "text": "我看你好像是說嘗試的試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/8.wav",
        "text": "其實應該是合適的適啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/9.wav",
        "text": "以身適法你本身就比較擅長協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/10.wav",
        "text": "但是絕不是以身觸法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/11.wav",
        "text": "不只不要觸法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/12.wav",
        "text": "而且現在不是嘗試的試"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/13.wav",
        "text": "應該是來這邊做一個很合適的楷模"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/14.wav",
        "text": "示範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/15.wav",
        "text": "事實上很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/16.wav",
        "text": "嘛第一個不要反質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/17.wav",
        "text": "該知道的事情不要故意不回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/18.wav",
        "text": "就是不要做虛偽的陳述"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/19.wav",
        "text": "很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/20.wav",
        "text": "你今天已經經過一整天了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/21.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止都不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/22.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止都不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/23.wav",
        "text": "不只是以身試法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/24.wav",
        "text": "就是有合適的適法了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/25.wav",
        "text": "來我們從以身適法開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/26.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/27.wav",
        "text": "看圖說故事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/28.wav",
        "text": "我們的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/29.wav",
        "text": "去年欠很多對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/30.wav",
        "text": "所以去年我們買進口的雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/31.wav",
        "text": "後來當然有出現500多萬顆蛋作廢的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/32.wav",
        "text": "可是這個產銷的方式是對的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/33.wav",
        "text": "今年顛倒過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/34.wav",
        "text": "先請問院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/35.wav",
        "text": "今年要是再從國外進口蛋進來對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/36.wav",
        "text": "當然要很有計畫的去生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/37.wav",
        "text": "而且要做調節的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/38.wav",
        "text": "那國外進口的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/39.wav",
        "text": "它如果是慣例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/40.wav",
        "text": "我們可能把它做另外的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/41.wav",
        "text": "但是不要影響市場上的價格跟民生的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/42.wav",
        "text": "政府的責任就是產銷要平衡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/43.wav",
        "text": "去年太少了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/44.wav",
        "text": "要加東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/45.wav",
        "text": "所以從國外進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/46.wav",
        "text": "應該減法嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/47.wav",
        "text": "所以我們剛剛講的答案就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/48.wav",
        "text": "不會從國外再進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/49.wav",
        "text": "可是最近農業部中央畜產會做一個動作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/50.wav",
        "text": "它把去年的進口蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/51.wav",
        "text": "當初做成液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/52.wav",
        "text": "還有滷蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/53.wav",
        "text": "茶葉蛋的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/54.wav",
        "text": "包括超思的巴西蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/55.wav",
        "text": "這個量我算過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/56.wav",
        "text": "不是一千萬顆而是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/57.wav",
        "text": "兩千兩百多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/58.wav",
        "text": "放到市面上去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/59.wav",
        "text": "這個做法對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/60.wav",
        "text": "已經太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/61.wav",
        "text": "以身適法的院長先回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/62.wav",
        "text": "一定有相當的計畫跟用途才這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/63.wav",
        "text": "這個如果沒有影響到市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/64.wav",
        "text": "上的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/65.wav",
        "text": "跟民生的穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/66.wav",
        "text": "所以要進一步的來評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/67.wav",
        "text": "這不是單從一個數字上來考慮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/68.wav",
        "text": "院長有影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/69.wav",
        "text": "啊上禮拜產地一斤是二十七塊五"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/70.wav",
        "text": "兩塊錢而且已經快接近有史以來最低了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/71.wav",
        "text": "最低了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/72.wav",
        "text": "喔它當然是有衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/73.wav",
        "text": "啊沒有沒有我做一個比較理性的呼籲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/74.wav",
        "text": "我們現在趕快再幫我們的蛋農解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/75.wav",
        "text": "我們來想幾個方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/76.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/77.wav",
        "text": "我昨天質詢你之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/78.wav",
        "text": "你現在不會再賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/79.wav",
        "text": "先停下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/80.wav",
        "text": "因為它現在是公告而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/81.wav",
        "text": "公告的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/82.wav",
        "text": "對我們先把它停下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/83.wav",
        "text": "我從2月份就開始追雞蛋了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/84.wav",
        "text": "你們從5月17號開始倒這個蛋出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/85.wav",
        "text": "很多雞農是很抗議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/86.wav",
        "text": "先停下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/87.wav",
        "text": "他已經蛋就賣不出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/88.wav",
        "text": "其實前幾天報紙是有報的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/89.wav",
        "text": "──因為買飼料的錢還不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/90.wav",
        "text": "有些是拿去餵豬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/91.wav",
        "text": "因為要減少進到市面上的蛋的數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/92.wav",
        "text": "結果你現在這邊還火上加油"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/93.wav",
        "text": "這個很不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/94.wav",
        "text": "我覺得部長平常評價還不錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/95.wav",
        "text": "可是這個事情要趕快踩煞車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/96.wav",
        "text": "另外我請你們答應一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/97.wav",
        "text": "我現在發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/98.wav",
        "text": "不是只有這兩千"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/99.wav",
        "text": "做成液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/100.wav",
        "text": "茶葉蛋滷蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/101.wav",
        "text": "短時間都不能再賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/102.wav",
        "text": "不能再賣了好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/103.wav",
        "text": "我想我們釋出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/104.wav",
        "text": "一定會看市場的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/105.wav",
        "text": "如果國內的蛋供應市場的需求是夠的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/106.wav",
        "text": "我們就不會釋出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/107.wav",
        "text": "類似用庫存的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/108.wav",
        "text": "滾動倉儲的概念去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/109.wav",
        "text": "如果過剩就不能賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/110.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/111.wav",
        "text": "這是簡單的數學問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/112.wav",
        "text": "跟價格穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/113.wav",
        "text": "來照顧大家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/114.wav",
        "text": "把這個當作唯一的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/115.wav",
        "text": "對所以我們現在第一個就是兩千多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/116.wav",
        "text": "雖然公告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/117.wav",
        "text": "今天很清清楚楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/118.wav",
        "text": "地跟我們全國民眾講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/119.wav",
        "text": "不會賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/120.wav",
        "text": "這是第一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/121.wav",
        "text": "第二個400多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/122.wav",
        "text": "原則上也不會賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/123.wav",
        "text": "除非到時候蛋不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/124.wav",
        "text": "那我們現在更進一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/125.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼來幫這些蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/126.wav",
        "text": "剛才陳素月講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/127.wav",
        "text": "那我們做一些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/128.wav",
        "text": "啊第一個可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/129.wav",
        "text": "透過對國軍用雞蛋來加菜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/130.wav",
        "text": "這是不是一個方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/131.wav",
        "text": "幫國軍來加菜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/132.wav",
        "text": "啊院長我先跟你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/133.wav",
        "text": "你知道這是誰的建議嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/134.wav",
        "text": "這是民進黨的鍾佳濱建議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/135.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不分黨派"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/136.wav",
        "text": "只要是幫人民解決問題的立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/137.wav",
        "text": "都是好立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/138.wav",
        "text": "可以考慮一下這個事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/139.wav",
        "text": "這個絕對是有助於穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/140.wav",
        "text": "每一天多出32萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/141.wav",
        "text": "國軍如果有幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/142.wav",
        "text": "了那我們也可以做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/143.wav",
        "text": "像我每天都吃兩顆蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/144.wav",
        "text": "大概在一個禮拜內做這個決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/145.wav",
        "text": "還有一些相關的團膳業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/146.wav",
        "text": "你有跟他們聯絡是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/147.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/148.wav",
        "text": "好加油好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/149.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/150.wav",
        "text": "你現在對雞蛋就補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/151.wav",
        "text": "關稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/152.wav",
        "text": "因為現在飼料老實說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/153.wav",
        "text": "真的是很貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/154.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋的價格更高了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/155.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得你要考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/156.wav",
        "text": "去做一部分的補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/157.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/158.wav",
        "text": "沒有我們現在是分兩個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/159.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/160.wav",
        "text": "們對進口飼料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/161.wav",
        "text": "我們跟飼料公會在協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/162.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠把這些降稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/163.wav",
        "text": "免營業稅的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/164.wav",
        "text": "對這個部分我們會先去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/165.wav",
        "text": "在一個禮拜內提出你的評估報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/166.wav",
        "text": "我們已經隨時在跟他們溝通了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/167.wav",
        "text": "你的方法是把它打成液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/168.wav",
        "text": "因為打成液蛋之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/169.wav",
        "text": "可以保存1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/170.wav",
        "text": "了你去年就知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/171.wav",
        "text": "現在我們臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/172.wav",
        "text": "太多了你為什麼都沒有想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/173.wav",
        "text": "到趕快去收購一些進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/174.wav",
        "text": "就先收購進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/175.wav",
        "text": "一樣去做液蛋啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/176.wav",
        "text": "跟去年一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/177.wav",
        "text": "去年蛋太多就做成液蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/178.wav",
        "text": "今年你去買了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/179.wav",
        "text": "做成液蛋有兩個好處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/180.wav",
        "text": "第一個你買了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/181.wav",
        "text": "市面上雞蛋的價格就上來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/182.wav",
        "text": "你等一下宣布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/183.wav",
        "text": "我跟你保證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/184.wav",
        "text": "明天雞蛋的價格就上來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/185.wav",
        "text": "而且很重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/186.wav",
        "text": "是因為你做成液蛋就可以用1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/187.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/188.wav",
        "text": "在明年還是以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/189.wav",
        "text": "了你隨時蛋可以出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/190.wav",
        "text": "可以做這個事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/191.wav",
        "text": "我先跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/192.wav",
        "text": "就是到市場裡面去把蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/193.wav",
        "text": "收進來以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/194.wav",
        "text": "變成一個滾動倉儲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/195.wav",
        "text": "對那個時間點要掌握得好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/196.wav",
        "text": "因為你的時間如果是先做的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/197.wav",
        "text": "我們產業界的這些蛋農"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/198.wav",
        "text": "認為反正有人收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/199.wav",
        "text": "就不會去淘汰老母雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/200.wav",
        "text": "他就讓雞每天下蛋給你收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/201.wav",
        "text": "所以這個時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/202.wav",
        "text": "你們要評估這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/203.wav",
        "text": "對我會評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/204.wav",
        "text": "我們獎勵老母雞淘汰部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/205.wav",
        "text": "找一個適當的時間點去動手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/206.wav",
        "text": "而不是明天就去動手"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/207.wav",
        "text": "對那個時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/208.wav",
        "text": "最晚差不多是什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/209.wav",
        "text": "我們在操作這個的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/210.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有辦法預告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/211.wav",
        "text": "如果預告的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/212.wav",
        "text": "就不淘汰老母雞了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/213.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得時間點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/214.wav",
        "text": "很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/215.wav",
        "text": "我們以前的雞蛋其實是有銷到新加坡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/216.wav",
        "text": "銷到香港"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/217.wav",
        "text": "甚至連美國都銷了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/218.wav",
        "text": "農業部趕快去幫忙外銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/219.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/220.wav",
        "text": "對我們對這個方面也在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/221.wav",
        "text": "啦然後有關於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/222.wav",
        "text": "到市場裡面去收的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/223.wav",
        "text": "那個滾動倉儲的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/224.wav",
        "text": "我們會視時間點進場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/225.wav",
        "text": "我再問你一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/226.wav",
        "text": "剛剛跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/227.wav",
        "text": "你現在不是只有這兩千多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/228.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/229.wav",
        "text": "後續還有400多萬顆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/230.wav",
        "text": "不要再賣了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/231.wav",
        "text": "可能還出現一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/232.wav",
        "text": "我來跟你討論一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/233.wav",
        "text": "你那個蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/234.wav",
        "text": "包括去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/235.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/236.wav",
        "text": "我看了你那個公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/237.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會裡面有這個公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/238.wav",
        "text": "標售"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/239.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/240.wav",
        "text": "我們有結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/241.wav",
        "text": "了這個時間點蛋已經太多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/242.wav",
        "text": "再標售已經是不對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/243.wav",
        "text": "可是另外有一個大問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/244.wav",
        "text": "他賣雞蛋的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/245.wav",
        "text": "是要賣到什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/246.wav",
        "text": "今年12月27號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/247.wav",
        "text": "滷蛋是賣到什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/248.wav",
        "text": "明年6月24"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/249.wav",
        "text": "部長來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/250.wav",
        "text": "我先跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/251.wav",
        "text": "你先注意右上角"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/252.wav",
        "text": "來我再給你看下一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/253.wav",
        "text": "去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/254.wav",
        "text": "引起那麼多爭端的進口蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/255.wav",
        "text": "巴西蛋最後進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/256.wav",
        "text": "有效期限就是9月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/257.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/258.wav",
        "text": "喔它再怎麼撐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/259.wav",
        "text": "怎麼撐撐到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/260.wav",
        "text": "今年的9月27號應該也要到期了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/261.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/262.wav",
        "text": "你現在的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/263.wav",
        "text": "你看看下面我寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/264.wav",
        "text": "你這個公告上面寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/265.wav",
        "text": "冷凍全蛋液跟滷蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/266.wav",
        "text": "是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/267.wav",
        "text": "是巴西蛋土耳其泰國澳洲美國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/268.wav",
        "text": "等你拿過期的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/269.wav",
        "text": "蛋到市面上去賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/270.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分可能是委員的誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/271.wav",
        "text": "第一個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/272.wav",
        "text": "我們做加工的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/273.wav",
        "text": "會根據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/274.wav",
        "text": "加工時的蛋一定不會過期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/275.wav",
        "text": "才去加工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/276.wav",
        "text": "就是在效期之內就去加工了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/277.wav",
        "text": "後根據它加工的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/278.wav",
        "text": "它的產品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/279.wav",
        "text": "會有不同的保存期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/280.wav",
        "text": "這個保存期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/281.wav",
        "text": "一定是要符合相關的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/282.wav",
        "text": "因為每次加工的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/283.wav",
        "text": "它就會貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/284.wav",
        "text": "它的有效期限在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/285.wav",
        "text": "不會說過期了還會賣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/286.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/287.wav",
        "text": "蛋過期了你就能銷毀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/288.wav",
        "text": "500多萬顆你已經銷毀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/289.wav",
        "text": "我一直逼你你銷毀了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/290.wav",
        "text": "現在快過期了就是即期蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/291.wav",
        "text": "你把它做成蛋液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/292.wav",
        "text": "蛋液最長可以保存多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/293.wav",
        "text": "它要跟它的那個製造的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/294.wav",
        "text": "包括液蛋或是蛋粉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/295.wav",
        "text": "有可能超過1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/296.wav",
        "text": "這是專家跟全世界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/297.wav",
        "text": "這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/298.wav",
        "text": "到底可以保存多久會跟它的製程有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/299.wav",
        "text": "但是詳細的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/300.wav",
        "text": "部分我可能現在沒辦法回答你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/301.wav",
        "text": "我回去會去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/302.wav",
        "text": "都講說最多1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/303.wav",
        "text": "你也是專家所以我尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/304.wav",
        "text": "你回去查如果有超過1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/305.wav",
        "text": "釋出的時候絕對不會超過效期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/306.wav",
        "text": "如果說市場內的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/307.wav",
        "text": "我寧願報廢它也不會釋出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/308.wav",
        "text": "去看這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/309.wav",
        "text": "一定站在民眾安全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/310.wav",
        "text": "食品安全這個條件上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/311.wav",
        "text": "才做相關的加工跟釋出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/312.wav",
        "text": "如果違背了這個原則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/313.wav",
        "text": "我們寧願讓它就銷毀掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/314.wav",
        "text": "很好部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/315.wav",
        "text": "說這個事情很緊急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/316.wav",
        "text": "這個是健康的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/317.wav",
        "text": "其實我的質疑是非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/318.wav",
        "text": "第一個大部分的專家都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/319.wav",
        "text": "液蛋只能放1年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/320.wav",
        "text": "第二個畜產會的公告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/321.wav",
        "text": "清清楚楚的講你現在賣的是什麼東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/322.wav",
        "text": "包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/323.wav",
        "text": "當時的巴西蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/324.wav",
        "text": "我們繼續來看超思的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/325.wav",
        "text": "銷毀完以後又有液蛋的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/326.wav",
        "text": "也索資了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/327.wav",
        "text": "這個案子很有可能就是我們國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/328.wav",
        "text": "調查的第一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/329.wav",
        "text": "目前還有5個大問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/330.wav",
        "text": "目前沒有合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/331.wav",
        "text": "就是以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/332.wav",
        "text": "沒有經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/333.wav",
        "text": "第三我跟你要證明你到現在沒有給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/334.wav",
        "text": "後面那兩個可能更嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/335.wav",
        "text": "\n關於這個事情前年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/336.wav",
        "text": "日本那時候是疫區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/337.wav",
        "text": "喔所以就一直跟你講說你是從日本什麼地方來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/338.wav",
        "text": "的你到現在也沒有給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/339.wav",
        "text": "我們看下一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/340.wav",
        "text": "）年巴西蛋要進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/341.wav",
        "text": "超思去買那麼多巴西蛋進來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/342.wav",
        "text": "那時候開了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/343.wav",
        "text": "招商會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/344.wav",
        "text": "還提了要有條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/345.wav",
        "text": "你要符合這個條件包括超思才能夠去買雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/346.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/347.wav",
        "text": "上面寫的公開召集的主持人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/348.wav",
        "text": "對我召開會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/349.wav",
        "text": "對啊你2023年都要召開會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/350.wav",
        "text": "這不是黑箱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/351.wav",
        "text": "什麼才是黑箱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/352.wav",
        "text": "去年同樣是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/353.wav",
        "text": "去年超思去巴西買蛋的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/354.wav",
        "text": "你自己開了公開召集的會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/355.wav",
        "text": "招商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/356.wav",
        "text": "你還訂了4個條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/357.wav",
        "text": "符合了才讓超思去買蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/358.wav",
        "text": "現在很多人去告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/359.wav",
        "text": "現在北檢裡面還告了陳吉仲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/360.wav",
        "text": "還告了中央畜產會的前主委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/361.wav",
        "text": "可是你看那時候你還做了這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/362.wav",
        "text": "喔你現在往前推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/363.wav",
        "text": "前年你去日本買蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/364.wav",
        "text": "沒有會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/365.wav",
        "text": "所以當然也沒有條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/366.wav",
        "text": "現在我問你你說還沒有合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/367.wav",
        "text": "這不是黑箱什麼是黑箱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/368.wav",
        "text": "它該有的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/369.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/370.wav",
        "text": "我們要講清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/371.wav",
        "text": "超思第一個有合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/372.wav",
        "text": "合約是符合這個條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/373.wav",
        "text": "當初會用合約的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/374.wav",
        "text": "是因為那時候全球"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/375.wav",
        "text": "的嚴峻程度缺蛋程度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/376.wav",
        "text": "是需要透過合約去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/377.wav",
        "text": "預約的生產跟交貨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/378.wav",
        "text": "所以那時候用合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/379.wav",
        "text": "但是111年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/380.wav",
        "text": "它的情況是不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/381.wav",
        "text": "的同樣是缺蛋但是它缺蛋的壓力沒那麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/382.wav",
        "text": "我們農業部是針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/383.wav",
        "text": "畜產會給它補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/384.wav",
        "text": "用例行的產銷調節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/385.wav",
        "text": "並沒有用專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/386.wav",
        "text": "會議去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/387.wav",
        "text": "在這個前提之下每個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/388.wav",
        "text": "大概是一櫃的雞蛋進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/389.wav",
        "text": "消費物價本身有點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/390.wav",
        "text": "蠢蠢欲動我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/391.wav",
        "text": "配合穩定物價的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/392.wav",
        "text": "以適當的進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/393.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋來做彌補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/394.wav",
        "text": "要用合約也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/395.wav",
        "text": "或用買斷的方式我們都會尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/396.wav",
        "text": "而超思是用買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/397.wav",
        "text": "所以111年是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/398.wav",
        "text": "用買斷112年是合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/399.wav",
        "text": "它們是不同年度的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/400.wav",
        "text": "前年的9月5號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/401.wav",
        "text": "成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/402.wav",
        "text": "隔了不到一兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/403.wav",
        "text": "中央畜產會就給它一個大訂單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/404.wav",
        "text": "這裡面已經充滿了疑問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/405.wav",
        "text": "又沒有合約你剛剛說用買斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/406.wav",
        "text": "的這裡面都有很多事情要查要再追"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/407.wav",
        "text": "啦這就是為什麼要成立調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/408.wav",
        "text": "聽證委員會要去查的第一個案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/409.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個聽我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/410.wav",
        "text": "那你也要有一個證明方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/411.wav",
        "text": "嘛去年你說它以前進口都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/412.wav",
        "text": "問題是那時候它也沒有經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/413.wav",
        "text": "啊你為什麼要找它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/414.wav",
        "text": "這麼小的一個公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/415.wav",
        "text": "50萬資本額的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/416.wav",
        "text": "老闆出1,000塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/417.wav",
        "text": "成立以後一兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/418.wav",
        "text": "然後我跟你要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/419.wav",
        "text": "它沒有經驗查出來並沒有經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/420.wav",
        "text": "對不對沒有像去年有經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/421.wav",
        "text": "嘛前年沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/422.wav",
        "text": "至少有一個推薦書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/423.wav",
        "text": "我從6月13號向你索資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/424.wav",
        "text": "那時候日本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/425.wav",
        "text": "爆發了禽流感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/426.wav",
        "text": "我跟你要兩個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/427.wav",
        "text": "從13號向你索資到現在你不給我我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/428.wav",
        "text": "問的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/429.wav",
        "text": "欸既然是禽流感爆發的地區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/430.wav",
        "text": "那是日本哪個地方來的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/431.wav",
        "text": "一定要有檢疫報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/432.wav",
        "text": "嘛你為什麼到現在不給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/433.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/434.wav",
        "text": "這個東西其實在委員說明的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/435.wav",
        "text": "我回去就問了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/436.wav",
        "text": "而且查了也看到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/437.wav",
        "text": "就是說它在日本進口的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/438.wav",
        "text": "是一個非疫生產區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/439.wav",
        "text": "的因為它是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/440.wav",
        "text": "府道縣市本身去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/441.wav",
        "text": "疫區的控管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/442.wav",
        "text": "所以我也確認那時候所進口的蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/443.wav",
        "text": "疫區來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/444.wav",
        "text": "防檢局在這個部分是有絕對的把關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/445.wav",
        "text": "至於沒有提供委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/446.wav",
        "text": "因為這個資訊是非常明確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/447.wav",
        "text": "我在這邊可以確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/448.wav",
        "text": "對一定跟你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/449.wav",
        "text": "日本那個時候發生了什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/450.wav",
        "text": "它們叫做縣道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/451.wav",
        "text": "是哪個縣道裡面發生了疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/452.wav",
        "text": "對所以這個部分我們一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/453.wav",
        "text": "還有一個我要跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/454.wav",
        "text": "會有那麼大的缺蛋狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/455.wav",
        "text": "然後去圖利超思先讓它做業績"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/456.wav",
        "text": "然後112年再讓它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/457.wav",
        "text": "去賺這個錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/458.wav",
        "text": "因為我們在111年絕對不可能預測"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/459.wav",
        "text": "112年會有這麼大的缺蛋狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/460.wav",
        "text": "這個我想是我必須要澄清的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/461.wav",
        "text": "第一個就要解釋為什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/462.wav",
        "text": "好啦沒關係這個我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/463.wav",
        "text": "它要有進口經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/464.wav",
        "text": "現在沒有嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/465.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以給我一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/466.wav",
        "text": "應該下禮拜二三就可以給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/467.wav",
        "text": "我們再看一個重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/468.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會出現這麼多問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/469.wav",
        "text": "它到4月份就到期了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/470.wav",
        "text": "8月的蛋到底誰去買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/471.wav",
        "text": "的你跟我講只有兩家去買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/472.wav",
        "text": "你看清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/473.wav",
        "text": "我看得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/474.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/475.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/476.wav",
        "text": "我們在新聞稿有提到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/477.wav",
        "text": "4月以後的一些進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/478.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是亮采"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/479.wav",
        "text": "采進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/480.wav",
        "text": "然後由超思去賣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/481.wav",
        "text": "由超思提款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/482.wav",
        "text": "對畜產會來講它看到蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/483.wav",
        "text": "因為是買斷的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/484.wav",
        "text": "然後根據發票去付款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/485.wav",
        "text": "這個程序是完整的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/486.wav",
        "text": "至於亮采跟超思的商業關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/487.wav",
        "text": "它是屬於私法人的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/488.wav",
        "text": "以我們農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/489.wav",
        "text": "為督導的角度來看的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/490.wav",
        "text": "我們也覺得有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/491.wav",
        "text": "必須澄清的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/492.wav",
        "text": "所以我們移送給檢調單位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/493.wav",
        "text": "所以你現在是沒有解釋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/494.wav",
        "text": "到底9月是誰進口進來的還是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/495.wav",
        "text": "它有一部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/496.wav",
        "text": "由亮采進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/497.wav",
        "text": "8月買蛋當然不是超"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/498.wav",
        "text": "就是是亮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/499.wav",
        "text": "它後面都是用買斷的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/500.wav",
        "text": "我剛才說了4月以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/501.wav",
        "text": "不管是超思或是亮采都是買斷的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/502.wav",
        "text": "都是用買斷的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/503.wav",
        "text": "所以是亮采去買斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/504.wav",
        "text": "沒有畜產會去買斷的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/505.wav",
        "text": "不是亮采買斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/506.wav",
        "text": "畜產會買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/507.wav",
        "text": "就是亮采"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/508.wav",
        "text": "我們跟亮采買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/509.wav",
        "text": "你為什麼之前說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/510.wav",
        "text": "沒有這個是它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/511.wav",
        "text": "3月跟4月有合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/512.wav",
        "text": "你看一下那個圖裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/513.wav",
        "text": "買雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/514.wav",
        "text": "在前年10月份那時候日本爆發了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/515.wav",
        "text": "結果你看那個圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/516.wav",
        "text": "院長也順便看一下這個有多嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/517.wav",
        "text": "日本爆發禽流感的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/518.wav",
        "text": "它撲殺了很多雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/519.wav",
        "text": "所以它的雞蛋應該是變少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/520.wav",
        "text": "的然後雞蛋價格就飆漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/521.wav",
        "text": "對不對結果我們出現兩個非常不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/522.wav",
        "text": "超思去買雞蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/523.wav",
        "text": "一飛沖天買那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/524.wav",
        "text": "以前只有買214153172"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/525.wav",
        "text": "一下子跳到240604543"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/526.wav",
        "text": "而且第二個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/527.wav",
        "text": "你看右邊的價格更奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/528.wav",
        "text": "價格已經飆升了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/529.wav",
        "text": "一個量太大這是問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/530.wav",
        "text": "第二個價格那麼便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/531.wav",
        "text": "這個我會進一步再去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/532.wav",
        "text": "到底裡面是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/533.wav",
        "text": "當然這個解答就是部長跟我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/534.wav",
        "text": "不是從那邊拿這個解答就可以解開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/535.wav",
        "text": "那你如果再不給我的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/536.wav",
        "text": "這裡面就充滿了疑問好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/537.wav",
        "text": "這個必須要澄清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/538.wav",
        "text": "我們8月份買的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/539.wav",
        "text": "還是在非疫區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/540.wav",
        "text": "我一定會請防檢局提供相關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/541.wav",
        "text": "它的出口檢疫證明可以證實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/542.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/543.wav",
        "text": "這些那是它跟日本產地的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/544.wav",
        "text": "你有預約生產跟沒有預約生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/545.wav",
        "text": "用現貨的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/546.wav",
        "text": "它本身是不一樣的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/547.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們還是尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/548.wav",
        "text": "貿易商自己的私人行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/549.wav",
        "text": "第一個我要的資料你答應要給我的要趕快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/550.wav",
        "text": "第二這個應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/551.wav",
        "text": "很有可能是國會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/552.wav",
        "text": "調查委員會的第一案子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/553.wav",
        "text": "我們相關的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/554.wav",
        "text": "其實檢調單位已經在查了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/555.wav",
        "text": "111年的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/556.wav",
        "text": "你請回"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/557.wav",
        "text": "院長我先問你一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/558.wav",
        "text": "北中南串聯去行政院門口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/559.wav",
        "text": "陳情抗議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/560.wav",
        "text": "說麥寮電廠怎麼可以再延役啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/561.wav",
        "text": "因為它跟台電簽的這個約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/562.wav",
        "text": "他們要求兩個東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/563.wav",
        "text": "第一個什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/564.wav",
        "text": "延約的怎麼訂新的契約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/565.wav",
        "text": "或者是延長的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/566.wav",
        "text": "他們要求黑箱的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/567.wav",
        "text": "合約要公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/568.wav",
        "text": "這個契約裡面清清楚楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/569.wav",
        "text": "到了5月31號就要停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/570.wav",
        "text": "而且已經燒了25年的煤炭了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/571.wav",
        "text": "政府的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/572.wav",
        "text": "政府的國策就是減碳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/573.wav",
        "text": "結果你還一直讓它燒他們就很生氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/574.wav",
        "text": "我知道委員所提的這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/575.wav",
        "text": "重點來看就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/576.wav",
        "text": "已到但是合約的發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/577.wav",
        "text": "因為配合當地縣政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/578.wav",
        "text": "生煤減碳的這個要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/579.wav",
        "text": "降低了發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/580.wav",
        "text": "所以它合約的發電量還沒到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/581.wav",
        "text": "所以跟經濟部跟台電有這樣的協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/582.wav",
        "text": "你看到契約我看到人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/583.wav",
        "text": "對於那些人民來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/584.wav",
        "text": "到高雄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/585.wav",
        "text": "彰化南投跟臺中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/586.wav",
        "text": "你知道麥寮電廠是臺灣第幾大污染源嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/587.wav",
        "text": "所以經濟部跟他們進行協商院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/588.wav",
        "text": "院長我先問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/589.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣最大的污染源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/590.wav",
        "text": "污染源很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/591.wav",
        "text": "有外來的污染源都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/592.wav",
        "text": "台中火力發電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/593.wav",
        "text": "天然氣取代它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/594.wav",
        "text": "第二個就是麥寮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/595.wav",
        "text": "電廠這麼大的污染源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/596.wav",
        "text": "不是只有雲林人忍受嘉義人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/597.wav",
        "text": "臺南人彰化人臺中人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/598.wav",
        "text": "他看到那個合約上面寫得清清楚楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/599.wav",
        "text": "5月31號就是要停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/600.wav",
        "text": "結果你們現在看到廠商的這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/601.wav",
        "text": "另外你還沒看到一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/602.wav",
        "text": "很重要的不是只有合約的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/603.wav",
        "text": "這跟你的國策是不一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/604.wav",
        "text": "你要減碳結果你現在繼續燒煤炭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/605.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/606.wav",
        "text": "第三個更重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/607.wav",
        "text": "你有看到人民的健康嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/608.wav",
        "text": "有沒有看到人民的健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/609.wav",
        "text": "是當然有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/610.wav",
        "text": "經濟部台電有跟電廠協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/611.wav",
        "text": "如何進行未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/612.wav",
        "text": "25年前簽這個合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/613.wav",
        "text": "一個是發電量一個是期間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/614.wav",
        "text": "要滿足它投資的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/615.wav",
        "text": "現在我們跟台塑公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/616.wav",
        "text": "重新談判協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/617.wav",
        "text": "修約到明年年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/618.wav",
        "text": "不再續約即使發電量沒發完"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/619.wav",
        "text": "也不再續了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/620.wav",
        "text": "人民哪有要等你到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/621.wav",
        "text": "明年我們已經忍受25年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/622.wav",
        "text": "明明跟你的國家政策不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/623.wav",
        "text": "對人民的健康又有傷害"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/624.wav",
        "text": "院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/625.wav",
        "text": "你為什麼不能停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/626.wav",
        "text": "對不對電都夠了為什麼要讓麥寮電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/627.wav",
        "text": "源繼續傷害人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/628.wav",
        "text": "原來電廠的發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/629.wav",
        "text": "都算在現在的供需當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/630.wav",
        "text": "你是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/631.wav",
        "text": "假如缺少麥寮電就不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/632.wav",
        "text": "我們會比較安全穩定地供電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/633.wav",
        "text": "你不能夠這樣你不是一直說電夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/634.wav",
        "text": "你一直講電夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/635.wav",
        "text": "但是你剛才回答的意思是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/636.wav",
        "text": "麥寮電廠要繼續燒煤電才夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/637.wav",
        "text": "我們是整體規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/638.wav",
        "text": "台電的整個發電系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/639.wav",
        "text": "這個叫用肺去發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/640.wav",
        "text": "用肺去發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/641.wav",
        "text": "這是一個第二個減碳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/642.wav",
        "text": "你們政府的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/643.wav",
        "text": "結果現在繼續燒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/644.wav",
        "text": "我要兩個東西好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/645.wav",
        "text": "第一個陳情的團體跟民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/646.wav",
        "text": "很清楚要合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/647.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/648.wav",
        "text": "而且裡面有一個很嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/649.wav",
        "text": "雲林縣政府要給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/650.wav",
        "text": "燃煤的許可證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/651.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/652.wav",
        "text": "都沒有給雲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/653.wav",
        "text": "雲林縣政府到現在都還沒給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/654.wav",
        "text": "燃煤的許可證書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/655.wav",
        "text": "簽一個可能違法的合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/656.wav",
        "text": "台電公司25年前簽的約我們要尊重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/657.wav",
        "text": "當時的合約並沒有明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/658.wav",
        "text": "講以期間為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/659.wav",
        "text": "或者以發電量為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/660.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/661.wav",
        "text": "改進的作法就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/662.wav",
        "text": "你現在一直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/663.wav",
        "text": "台電都給我了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/664.wav",
        "text": "裡面沒有說保證要發多少的電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/665.wav",
        "text": "這是第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/666.wav",
        "text": "我再講一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/667.wav",
        "text": "目前我掌握的資料沒有這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/668.wav",
        "text": "更嚴重的是我剛才講的人民的健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/669.wav",
        "text": "而且人民看得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/670.wav",
        "text": "今年5月31"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/671.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不停下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/672.wav",
        "text": "我們一樣我們都尊重專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/673.wav",
        "text": "把合約拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/674.wav",
        "text": "好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/675.wav",
        "text": "第二個更嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/676.wav",
        "text": "雲林縣政府如果沒有允許你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/677.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼去簽一個可能沒辦法落實的合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/678.wav",
        "text": "這是個違法的合約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/679.wav",
        "text": "人在公門好修行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/680.wav",
        "text": "你如果認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/681.wav",
        "text": "麥寮電廠──全臺灣第二大污染源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/682.wav",
        "text": "會有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/683.wav",
        "text": "我覺得你應該出面踩煞車"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/684.wav",
        "text": "除了檢查合約我希望能夠跟地方政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/685.wav",
        "text": "跟民眾也能夠好好溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/686.wav",
        "text": "大家再取一個最平衡的點來處理這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/687.wav",
        "text": "縣政府到現在都沒要給你不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/688.wav",
        "text": "現在你前後顛倒了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/689.wav",
        "text": "你應該先跟縣政府拿到許可以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/690.wav",
        "text": "再簽這個約好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/691.wav",
        "text": "我們看最後一張院長你注意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/692.wav",
        "text": "你注意這件事情那天你來拜會的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/693.wav",
        "text": "我就跟你講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/694.wav",
        "text": "核三廠附近的四個鄉鎮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/695.wav",
        "text": "都支持要延役"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/696.wav",
        "text": "役你看人家支持要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/697.wav",
        "text": "嘛那你偏偏不給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/698.wav",
        "text": "嘛你偏偏要給人家你會不會永遠都是跟人民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/699.wav",
        "text": "核三廠是依照核管法的規定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/700.wav",
        "text": "而這個是民間的契約"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/701.wav",
        "text": "啊我還是願意說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/702.wav",
        "text": "好好來考慮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/703.wav",
        "text": "謝謝張委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/704.wav",
        "text": "謝謝卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/705.wav",
        "text": "\n報告院會休息5分鐘"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154395/706.wav",
        "text": "休息之後繼續進行質詢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席江副院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/1.wav",
        "text": "是不是請行政"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/2.wav",
        "text": "行政院卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/3.wav",
        "text": "請卓院長備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/4.wav",
        "text": "卓院長你好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/5.wav",
        "text": "有一些像食安缺藥的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/6.wav",
        "text": "屢屢發生"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/7.wav",
        "text": "讓很多的醫療基層"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/8.wav",
        "text": "媒體也報導"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/9.wav",
        "text": "食藥署署長吳秀梅"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/10.wav",
        "text": "即將離任外傳新署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/11.wav",
        "text": "改由中國醫藥大學藥學院的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/12.wav",
        "text": "莊聲宏教授接任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/13.wav",
        "text": "你對莊聲宏教授"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/14.wav",
        "text": "是否有信心他能夠勝任"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/15.wav",
        "text": "有沒有信心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/16.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/17.wav",
        "text": "轄下的主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/18.wav",
        "text": "我們通常是尊重首長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/19.wav",
        "text": "對這個人的瞭解和認識"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/20.wav",
        "text": "將來是他自己指揮"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/21.wav",
        "text": "跟他自己配合"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/22.wav",
        "text": "瞭解"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/23.wav",
        "text": "我是說食藥署署長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/24.wav",
        "text": "這樣的人事案"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/25.wav",
        "text": "其實很重要"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/26.wav",
        "text": "過去吳秀梅"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/27.wav",
        "text": "非常非常地不滿"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/28.wav",
        "text": "這次換莊聲宏教授"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/29.wav",
        "text": "他是中國醫藥大學藥學院的院長"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/30.wav",
        "text": "現在面臨的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/31.wav",
        "text": "當然缺藥的問題很嚴重"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/32.wav",
        "text": "像缺藥的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/33.wav",
        "text": "要多少時間讓他來做一些處理"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/34.wav",
        "text": "因為這個很重要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/35.wav",
        "text": "缺藥"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/36.wav",
        "text": "這個人事案的整個流程已經走"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/37.wav",
        "text": "那你認不認同"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/38.wav",
        "text": "就是對他有沒有信心"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/39.wav",
        "text": "對莊聲宏"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/40.wav",
        "text": "第一個尊重邱部長的選擇"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/41.wav",
        "text": "再來既然是一個團隊"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/42.wav",
        "text": "我們就要讓團隊整體往前走"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/43.wav",
        "text": "彼此要能夠有默契"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/44.wav",
        "text": "要能夠有很好的團隊觀念"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/45.wav",
        "text": "精神而合作"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/46.wav",
        "text": "那你認為缺藥的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/47.wav",
        "text": "就應該要把它解決掉"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/48.wav",
        "text": "不要經常缺這個藥缺那個藥"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/49.wav",
        "text": "很多民眾到醫院去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/50.wav",
        "text": "要這個藥也沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/51.wav",
        "text": "要那個藥也沒有"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/52.wav",
        "text": "你說怎麼辦"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/53.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/54.wav",
        "text": "這個是跟健康直接第一有關的"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/55.wav",
        "text": "耶卓院長你有什麼看法"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/56.wav",
        "text": "不管是輸液還是藥"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/57.wav",
        "text": "現在都有一些問題存在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/58.wav",
        "text": "就輸液我們現在已經進國外"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/59.wav",
        "text": "專案進口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/60.wav",
        "text": "也從國內其他小廠希望鼓勵他們生產"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/61.wav",
        "text": "另外就原來生產的這個大廠"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/62.wav",
        "text": "它能不能在短時間內回復"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/63.wav",
        "text": "這個都是未來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/64.wav",
        "text": "衛福部食藥署要去做的事情"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/65.wav",
        "text": "其實卓院長你應該交代他們"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/66.wav",
        "text": "該給人家一點利潤還是要給"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/67.wav",
        "text": "問題就是你一直砍"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/68.wav",
        "text": "砍到人家不願意做"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/69.wav",
        "text": "這才是癥結點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/70.wav",
        "text": "不願意做你就缺藥"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/71.wav",
        "text": "問題的癥結點是在這裡"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/72.wav",
        "text": "最嚴重的問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/73.wav",
        "text": "我認為你身為院長"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/74.wav",
        "text": "一定要解決這個問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/75.wav",
        "text": "多少時間可以解決你告訴我"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/76.wav",
        "text": "這這是民眾關心的事情"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/77.wav",
        "text": "不是跟你沒有關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/78.wav",
        "text": "我想等到新的食藥署長上任之後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/79.wav",
        "text": "我會跟部長和他一起"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/80.wav",
        "text": "好好地研究現在遇到的這些問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/81.wav",
        "text": "我們真的誠實面對問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/82.wav",
        "text": "再提出一個可行的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/83.wav",
        "text": "對啦要增加一點錢給人家"
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        "text": "問題解決最重要"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/85.wav",
        "text": "要面對問題探討問題"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/86.wav",
        "text": "看怎麼去解決"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/87.wav",
        "text": "這和人民的健康有直接的關係"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/88.wav",
        "text": "離岸風電躉購費率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/89.wav",
        "text": "與國產化的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/90.wav",
        "text": "2024年經濟部主導離岸風電"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/91.wav",
        "text": "第三階段的區塊開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/92.wav",
        "text": "已出現0元競標價格"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/93.wav",
        "text": "經濟部說離岸風電20年躉購"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/94.wav",
        "text": "絕無多付9,000億"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/95.wav",
        "text": "既然如此"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/96.wav",
        "text": "就請經濟部告訴本席"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/97.wav",
        "text": "離岸風電的躉購"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/98.wav",
        "text": "政府會比競標價格"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/99.wav",
        "text": "多付多少錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/100.wav",
        "text": "報告委員這個躉購費率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/101.wav",
        "text": "剛開始的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/102.wav",
        "text": "因為我們完全沒有經驗"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/103.wav",
        "text": "需要請開發商來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/104.wav",
        "text": "所以那是參考國際間"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/105.wav",
        "text": "尤其英國等等的模式"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/106.wav",
        "text": "一開始我們提供一個躉購費率"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/107.wav",
        "text": "接下去就變成自由市場競標"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/108.wav",
        "text": "等到競標的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/109.wav",
        "text": "因為我們已經有第一期"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/110.wav",
        "text": "開發商有了信心"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/111.wav",
        "text": "自然就會競價"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/112.wav",
        "text": "競價的時候標案都非常便宜"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/113.wav",
        "text": "有的就接近0元"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/114.wav",
        "text": "躉購的時候因為不一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/115.wav",
        "text": "那是第一開始的時候"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/116.wav",
        "text": "總是要投入一些成本"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/117.wav",
        "text": "經濟部有關離岸風電"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/118.wav",
        "text": "的新聞稿寫藉"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/119.wav",
        "text": "藉躉購價格"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/120.wav",
        "text": "打好產業基礎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/121.wav",
        "text": "遴選機制帶動"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/122.wav",
        "text": "並引進國外技術建構國內產業"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/123.wav",
        "text": "發展離岸風電本土供應鏈"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/124.wav",
        "text": "並扶植我國產業進軍亞太市場"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/125.wav",
        "text": "2022年"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/126.wav",
        "text": "監察院調查報告指出"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/127.wav",
        "text": "大彰化東南及西南第一階段離岸風電"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/128.wav",
        "text": "共需要111座"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/129.wav",
        "text": "最終國產化"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/130.wav",
        "text": "實際上僅有6座而已"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/131.wav",
        "text": "高達94.6%"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/132.wav",
        "text": "105座之基地下的基礎"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/133.wav",
        "text": "有關離岸風電國產化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/134.wav",
        "text": "成效不佳的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/135.wav",
        "text": "監察院已糾正了經濟部"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/136.wav",
        "text": "說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/137.wav",
        "text": "具約束力並有罰則"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/138.wav",
        "text": "絕非柔性要求"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/139.wav",
        "text": "應於承諾年度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/140.wav",
        "text": "如期如質"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/141.wav",
        "text": "達成國產化承諾目標"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/142.wav",
        "text": "及風場建置"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/143.wav",
        "text": "若未如期履約"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/144.wav",
        "text": "則依履約保證金及"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/145.wav",
        "text": "等嚴格違約罰則"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/146.wav",
        "text": "發展再生能源"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/147.wav",
        "text": "也支持離岸風電國產化"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/148.wav",
        "text": "但是離岸風電"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/149.wav",
        "text": "整個工程進度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/150.wav",
        "text": "嚴重落後國產化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/151.wav",
        "text": "也低於預期希望卓院長"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/152.wav",
        "text": "能夠明確裁示"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/153.wav",
        "text": "就應該依比例檢討"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/154.wav",
        "text": "離岸風電的躉購電價"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/155.wav",
        "text": "光電的電價"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/156.wav",
        "text": "我們一開始離岸風電也是一樣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/157.wav",
        "text": "我說的兩個原則是一開始會有很多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/158.wav",
        "text": "基礎建設我們也希望能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/159.wav",
        "text": "升級但在這個過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/160.wav",
        "text": "也發現一些困難跟沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/161.wav",
        "text": "達到預期的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/162.wav",
        "text": "其實一開始問題很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/163.wav",
        "text": "等於躉購就是議價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/164.wav",
        "text": "先議價七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/165.wav",
        "text": "後面的三成再來公開招標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/166.wav",
        "text": "公開招標一度標多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/167.wav",
        "text": "2塊2毛2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/168.wav",
        "text": "躉購多少5塊8毛4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/169.wav",
        "text": "等於是5塊8毛5啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/170.wav",
        "text": "幾乎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/171.wav",
        "text": "啦你看落差多大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/172.wav",
        "text": "結果我問前經濟部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/173.wav",
        "text": "沈榮津他跟我說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/174.wav",
        "text": "因為要國產化實際上國產化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/175.wav",
        "text": "幾乎都是半成品進來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/176.wav",
        "text": "就栽下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/177.wav",
        "text": "對不對次長你有什麼看法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/178.wav",
        "text": "還有相當的成就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/179.wav",
        "text": "啦因為我們國產化"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/180.wav",
        "text": "的範圍非常大我們並不是要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/181.wav",
        "text": "他技術移轉而是讓我們的在地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/182.wav",
        "text": "供應鏈可以加入開發商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/183.wav",
        "text": "整個供應鏈未來這些開發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/184.wav",
        "text": "商到國際間去做離岸風電"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/185.wav",
        "text": "的時候我們的供應鏈都可以跟著去"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/186.wav",
        "text": "目前已經有一些實際的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/187.wav",
        "text": "問題是你給他"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/188.wav",
        "text": "一度是5塊8毛5"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/189.wav",
        "text": "那我們公開招標的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/190.wav",
        "text": "是標2塊2毛2"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/191.wav",
        "text": "落差太大"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/192.wav",
        "text": "躉購費率的業者"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/193.wav",
        "text": "他也去參加公開競標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/194.wav",
        "text": "所以他的成本並不是表面上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/195.wav",
        "text": "看到的5塊8毛5跟2塊2"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/196.wav",
        "text": "他其實之間有一些財務上"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/197.wav",
        "text": "的調配總而言之是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/198.wav",
        "text": "政府跟開發商跟供應商"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/199.wav",
        "text": "跟在地供應鏈大家都多贏的結果"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/200.wav",
        "text": "這是我們期待的一個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/201.wav",
        "text": "民進黨的整個能源政策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/202.wav",
        "text": "是國王的新衣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/203.wav",
        "text": "裝睡的人是叫不醒"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/204.wav",
        "text": "自以為感覺良好"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/205.wav",
        "text": "其實連美國商會"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/206.wav",
        "text": "也都質疑民進黨的能源政策"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/207.wav",
        "text": "尤其"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/208.wav",
        "text": "童子賢董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/209.wav",
        "text": "日前談及臺灣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/210.wav",
        "text": "能源政策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/211.wav",
        "text": "時表示綠能有間歇性"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/212.wav",
        "text": "發電的缺點"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/213.wav",
        "text": "各占臺灣"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/214.wav",
        "text": "讓不排碳發電"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/215.wav",
        "text": "這是臺灣能源的黃金比例"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/216.wav",
        "text": "可以追上先進國家的水準"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/217.wav",
        "text": "童子賢直言臺灣能源政策"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/218.wav",
        "text": "不能改變"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/219.wav",
        "text": "的原因無非是原來非"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/220.wav",
        "text": "非核家園的口號"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/221.wav",
        "text": "來卡住了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/222.wav",
        "text": "為了要順應那個口號就一切"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/223.wav",
        "text": "東西都要卡來卡去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/224.wav",
        "text": "他說臺灣本來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/225.wav",
        "text": "可以大舉進步"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/226.wav",
        "text": "就是因為把核能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/227.wav",
        "text": "廢掉而綠能又追不上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/228.wav",
        "text": "原來設定的目標"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/229.wav",
        "text": "他希望談論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/230.wav",
        "text": "能源政策時政治味道"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/231.wav",
        "text": "越淡越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/232.wav",
        "text": "中性看待"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/233.wav",
        "text": "產業需求和"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/234.wav",
        "text": "\n本席支持綠能發展"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/235.wav",
        "text": "台電火力全開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/236.wav",
        "text": "臺灣2050"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/237.wav",
        "text": "本席建議卓內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/238.wav",
        "text": "賴政府儘速召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/239.wav",
        "text": "能源國是會議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/240.wav",
        "text": "把所有真實數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/241.wav",
        "text": "全部都攤開來讓全民"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/242.wav",
        "text": "知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/243.wav",
        "text": "該滾動式調整能源結構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/244.wav",
        "text": "就運用核能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/245.wav",
        "text": "幫助達成2050"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/246.wav",
        "text": "年淨零排碳的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/247.wav",
        "text": "卓院長你有什麼看法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/248.wav",
        "text": "再跟委員報告"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/249.wav",
        "text": "非核家園"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/250.wav",
        "text": "我早上說過了它是在環境基本法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/251.wav",
        "text": "第23條裡面訂的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/252.wav",
        "text": "政府應該訂定計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/253.wav",
        "text": "這個不可以改嗎"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/254.wav",
        "text": "現實核能也是綠能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/255.wav",
        "text": "這個法現在是存在的而且是委員在"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/256.wav",
        "text": "那個本來就可以改啊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/257.wav",
        "text": "所以這是一個現行的法令"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/258.wav",
        "text": "再來現在要經過"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/259.wav",
        "text": "社會有共識核能"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/260.wav",
        "text": "發電達到百分之七八十"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/261.wav",
        "text": "應該是現在的社會共識"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/262.wav",
        "text": "還要很大的去努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/263.wav",
        "text": "能不能達到我都覺得不一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/264.wav",
        "text": "但是這是一個未來可以討論"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/265.wav",
        "text": "的也許新的核能技術有一天改變"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/266.wav",
        "text": "是我們現在不知道的技術"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/267.wav",
        "text": "那是未來的事情"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/268.wav",
        "text": "所以我常說一句話未來的核能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/269.wav",
        "text": "解決不了今天的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/270.wav",
        "text": "其實你要達到2050年淨零排碳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/271.wav",
        "text": "是天方夜譚"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/272.wav",
        "text": "操作方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/273.wav",
        "text": "真的\n關於學校"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/274.wav",
        "text": "台電表示凍漲"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/275.wav",
        "text": "政策不變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/276.wav",
        "text": "但電費差額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/277.wav",
        "text": "會改由各部會編列相關的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/278.wav",
        "text": "不再由台電來吸收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/279.wav",
        "text": "臺大校長表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/280.wav",
        "text": "一旦漲電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/281.wav",
        "text": "對學校是嚴重的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/282.wav",
        "text": "影響經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/283.wav",
        "text": "教學研究的品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/284.wav",
        "text": "師生的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/285.wav",
        "text": "教育經費法定下限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/286.wav",
        "text": "明定前三年度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/287.wav",
        "text": "決算歲入淨額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/288.wav",
        "text": "%本席認為"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/289.wav",
        "text": "窮不能窮教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/290.wav",
        "text": "苦不能苦孩子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/291.wav",
        "text": "本席已提出教育經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/292.wav",
        "text": "編列與管理法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/293.wav",
        "text": "修正草案明定電費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/294.wav",
        "text": "補助款不要計入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/295.wav",
        "text": "教育經費的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/296.wav",
        "text": "讓更多教育經費用於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/297.wav",
        "text": "學生身上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/298.wav",
        "text": "希望卓院長不要讓上漲的電價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/299.wav",
        "text": "吃掉學生的教育預算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/300.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼看法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/301.wav",
        "text": "次長回答一下"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/302.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/303.wav",
        "text": "我們的想法是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/304.wav",
        "text": "讓台電的營運能夠更透明"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/305.wav",
        "text": "更透明漲價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/306.wav",
        "text": "並不會漲價"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/307.wav",
        "text": "我們只是把這個預算編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/308.wav",
        "text": "由相關主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/309.wav",
        "text": "來編列這個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/310.wav",
        "text": "該補助就補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/311.wav",
        "text": "跟這個漲價是沒有關係的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/312.wav",
        "text": "報告委員台電長年以來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/313.wav",
        "text": "擔負了很多的政策補貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/314.wav",
        "text": "跟政策目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/315.wav",
        "text": "所以希望能夠回到目的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/316.wav",
        "text": "事業主管機關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/317.wav",
        "text": "就它所屬的這些相關團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/318.wav",
        "text": "或是單位去做一些電費的計算"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/319.wav",
        "text": "這個是讓台電能夠好好經營下去的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/320.wav",
        "text": "一個企業精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/321.wav",
        "text": "所以民進黨政府高估再生能源發展的速度"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/322.wav",
        "text": "又低估了AI用電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/323.wav",
        "text": "需求的成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/324.wav",
        "text": "用選擇一度3到4元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/325.wav",
        "text": "更貴更髒的火力發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/326.wav",
        "text": "本席現在說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/327.wav",
        "text": "的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/328.wav",
        "text": "是台電提供2023年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/329.wav",
        "text": "燃氣發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/330.wav",
        "text": "的購電成本每度3.62元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/331.wav",
        "text": "核能每度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/332.wav",
        "text": "1.3元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/333.wav",
        "text": "如果2023年台電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/334.wav",
        "text": "整個核能發電的電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/335.wav",
        "text": "跟2015年一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/336.wav",
        "text": "為351億度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/337.wav",
        "text": "則可以減少使用天然氣發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/338.wav",
        "text": "少虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/339.wav",
        "text": "400億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/340.wav",
        "text": "這400億等同於113年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/341.wav",
        "text": "文化部300億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/342.wav",
        "text": "的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/343.wav",
        "text": "再加上未來要成立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/344.wav",
        "text": "百億癌症新藥的基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/345.wav",
        "text": "本席不反對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/346.wav",
        "text": "發展再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/347.wav",
        "text": "2025年再生能源20%的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/348.wav",
        "text": "已確定是跳票的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/349.wav",
        "text": "下修的占比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/350.wav",
        "text": "目標是15.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/351.wav",
        "text": "2025年要到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/352.wav",
        "text": "但是現在下修到15.5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/353.wav",
        "text": "國際認可核能為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/354.wav",
        "text": "綠電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/355.wav",
        "text": "國際能源總署強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/356.wav",
        "text": "世界需要核電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/357.wav",
        "text": "來減少碳排放"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/358.wav",
        "text": "美日韓都大舉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/359.wav",
        "text": "發展核電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/360.wav",
        "text": "難道民進黨的能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/361.wav",
        "text": "不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/362.wav",
        "text": "做通盤的檢討嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/363.wav",
        "text": "我們這幾年來發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/364.wav",
        "text": "綠能所以很多世界的大廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/365.wav",
        "text": "包括設立資料中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/366.wav",
        "text": "它來臺灣設廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/367.wav",
        "text": "就是指定要用綠電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/368.wav",
        "text": "如果我們沒有這幾年的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/369.wav",
        "text": "這些大廠是不可能選擇要來臺灣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/370.wav",
        "text": "所以所以你認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/371.wav",
        "text": "不是請委員一起支持我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/372.wav",
        "text": "還是要多元發展綠電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/373.wav",
        "text": "大家都清清楚楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/374.wav",
        "text": "為什麼現在經常很多地方都在跳電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/375.wav",
        "text": "那是因為電網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/376.wav",
        "text": "韌性不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/377.wav",
        "text": "我要求能夠縮短時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/378.wav",
        "text": "善電網的韌性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/379.wav",
        "text": "謝謝林委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/380.wav",
        "text": "謝謝卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154396/381.wav",
        "text": "\n下一位我們請黃國昌委員質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席副院長是不是麻煩有請行政院卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/1.wav",
        "text": "黃委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/2.wav",
        "text": "卓院長好賴清德總統在競選總統的時候提出他的能源政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/3.wav",
        "text": "作為總統所提名的行政院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/4.wav",
        "text": "我相信您最重要的任務就是要實踐賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/5.wav",
        "text": "跟全體國民所提出來的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/6.wav",
        "text": "其中非常重要的一環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/7.wav",
        "text": "也是今天大家很關心的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/8.wav",
        "text": "就是能源政策的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/9.wav",
        "text": "我今天要請教院長的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/10.wav",
        "text": "這個路徑到底要怎麼樣實踐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/11.wav",
        "text": "這一兩天總統府環境變遷委員會副召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/12.wav",
        "text": "童子賢童董事長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/13.wav",
        "text": "他對於我們有關低碳發電的這件事情上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/14.wav",
        "text": "其實提出了滿強烈的批評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/15.wav",
        "text": "社會責任感的企業家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/16.wav",
        "text": "我個人也非常的尊敬他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/17.wav",
        "text": "童董事長說馬政府卸任的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/18.wav",
        "text": "低碳發電19.4"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/19.wav",
        "text": "%蔡總統卸任的時候低碳發電只有16.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/20.wav",
        "text": "%童董事長的數據正不正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/21.wav",
        "text": "要回去確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/22.wav",
        "text": "我喜歡討論事情從事實開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/23.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣的發言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/24.wav",
        "text": "事實上是代表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/25.wav",
        "text": "我們在淨零碳排的道路上面不進反退"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/26.wav",
        "text": "嘛那我們就先從事實開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/27.wav",
        "text": "童董事長這樣子的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/28.wav",
        "text": "次長嘛次長說你不知道正不正確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/29.wav",
        "text": "他的數據是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/30.wav",
        "text": "因為他大概就是把火力發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/31.wav",
        "text": "燃煤跟燃氣加在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/32.wav",
        "text": "用100%去減掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/33.wav",
        "text": "就是他所謂低碳發電的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/34.wav",
        "text": "我把它全部都列出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/35.wav",
        "text": "這是從經濟部能源署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/36.wav",
        "text": "的網站下面下載的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/37.wav",
        "text": "這個是過去蔡政府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/38.wav",
        "text": "所留下來的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/39.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要苛責賴清德總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/40.wav",
        "text": "但我們在討論問題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/41.wav",
        "text": "知道我們今天從哪裡出發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/42.wav",
        "text": "非常非常地重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/43.wav",
        "text": "\n我首先要請教卓院長的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/44.wav",
        "text": "你認為在賴總統第一任的任期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/45.wav",
        "text": "也就是到2028年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/46.wav",
        "text": "這一個非低碳發電的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/47.wav",
        "text": "也就是所謂火力發電的占比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/48.wav",
        "text": "會降到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/49.wav",
        "text": "今年1月到4月是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/50.wav",
        "text": "是要降到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/51.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/52.wav",
        "text": "剛剛前面那個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/53.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在的火力發電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/54.wav",
        "text": "也是逐漸要降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/55.wav",
        "text": "燃氣會增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/56.wav",
        "text": "所以理論上是不應該出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/57.wav",
        "text": "我到現在沒有看過這樣的數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/58.wav",
        "text": "我們可以重新回頭去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/59.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/60.wav",
        "text": "請你跟我講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/61.wav",
        "text": "你們到2028卸任的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/62.wav",
        "text": "你的目標值要降到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/63.wav",
        "text": "我們現在有幾個火力發電廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/64.wav",
        "text": "要停下來沒有錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/65.wav",
        "text": "所以你的目標值要降到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/66.wav",
        "text": "一個禮拜之內書面回復我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/67.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/68.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在要討論的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/69.wav",
        "text": "我沒有要在比較抽象的政策面上跟你討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/70.wav",
        "text": "因為抽象的政策面上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/71.wav",
        "text": "賴總統提出他的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/72.wav",
        "text": "他也當選了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/73.wav",
        "text": "就要實踐他的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/74.wav",
        "text": "我們現在關心的是立法院監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/75.wav",
        "text": "我們要知道路徑怎麼達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/76.wav",
        "text": "否則的話只是在開空頭支票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/77.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/78.wav",
        "text": "你真的看二氧化碳的碳排放量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/79.wav",
        "text": "其實你也可以看得出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/80.wav",
        "text": "從剛剛的比例到二氧化碳的碳排放量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/81.wav",
        "text": "童子賢董事長的批評其實沒有說錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/82.wav",
        "text": "整個趨勢整個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/83.wav",
        "text": "全部都是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/84.wav",
        "text": "我非常支持發展再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/85.wav",
        "text": "所以我對於現在再生能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/86.wav",
        "text": "\n蔡英文總統說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/87.wav",
        "text": "2025再生能源要達到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/88.wav",
        "text": "去年的經濟部也承認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/89.wav",
        "text": "這是一個沒有辦法達到的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/90.wav",
        "text": "確定跳票了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/91.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統也很坦率地承認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/92.wav",
        "text": "做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/93.wav",
        "text": "他接棒下去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/94.wav",
        "text": "要2026年才可以實踐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/95.wav",
        "text": "我相信我對於蔡英文總統的承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/96.wav",
        "text": "以及賴清德總統的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/97.wav",
        "text": "這些數字整理都不會錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/98.wav",
        "text": "這個是白紙黑字的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/99.wav",
        "text": "但我現在關心的事情是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/100.wav",
        "text": "政治人物選舉的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/101.wav",
        "text": "政見開支票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/102.wav",
        "text": "我們就要努力地去達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/103.wav",
        "text": "這才是民主政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/104.wav",
        "text": "這才是責任政治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/105.wav",
        "text": "我們講要達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/106.wav",
        "text": "不是一句我努力就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/107.wav",
        "text": "人民要看到的是你努力的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/108.wav",
        "text": "以及你努力的路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/109.wav",
        "text": "我這樣說沒有錯吧院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/110.wav",
        "text": "好我們來看一下努力的路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/111.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/112.wav",
        "text": "我們2024年再生能源的發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/113.wav",
        "text": "占10.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/114.wav",
        "text": "這個一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/115.wav",
        "text": "是經濟部能源署統計的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/116.wav",
        "text": "2026年要到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/117.wav",
        "text": "現在是占10.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/118.wav",
        "text": "我們2026年要到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/119.wav",
        "text": "也就是將近還有10%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/120.wav",
        "text": "精準地講是9.3%要達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/121.wav",
        "text": "這個路徑要怎麼達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/122.wav",
        "text": "我把再生能源的種類"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/123.wav",
        "text": "全部都很詳細地把它畫出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/124.wav",
        "text": "我具體地請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/125.wav",
        "text": "你們到2026年要達成20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/126.wav",
        "text": "再生能源的路徑當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/127.wav",
        "text": "要達到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/128.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/129.wav",
        "text": "這個會delay的原因主要是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/130.wav",
        "text": "對不起我沒有問你delay的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/131.wav",
        "text": "我也沒有怪你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/132.wav",
        "text": "跳票的是蔡英文"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/133.wav",
        "text": "我沒有怪在賴清德頭上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/134.wav",
        "text": "現在我在問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/135.wav",
        "text": "賴清德說他2026要達標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/136.wav",
        "text": "我們就具體地講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/137.wav",
        "text": "現在只有10.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/138.wav",
        "text": "還差9.3%嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/139.wav",
        "text": "那你的太陽光電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/140.wav",
        "text": "在你20%的占比當中要占多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/141.wav",
        "text": "我們未來會在風電的併聯上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/142.wav",
        "text": "對不起我請教你的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/143.wav",
        "text": "太陽光電你打算占比要多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/144.wav",
        "text": "太陽光電我們大概會到20GW"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/145.wav",
        "text": "那麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/146.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/147.wav",
        "text": "20GW是20GW喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/148.wav",
        "text": "現在我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/149.wav",
        "text": "在你2026"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/150.wav",
        "text": "再生能源占比要20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/151.wav",
        "text": "沒有錯吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/152.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/153.wav",
        "text": "太陽光電要占百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/154.wav",
        "text": "這是我的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/155.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/156.wav",
        "text": "再生能源的種類是越來越多發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/157.wav",
        "text": "是所以我很具體地來問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/158.wav",
        "text": "太陽光電要占百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/159.wav",
        "text": "請說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/160.wav",
        "text": "是整個再生能源的種類很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/161.wav",
        "text": "是但我不喜歡混起來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/162.wav",
        "text": "其他的類項如果增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/163.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係你每一類要到百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/164.wav",
        "text": "我希望跟國人說清楚講明白"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/165.wav",
        "text": "我知道再生能源有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/166.wav",
        "text": "所以我把所有的數字都列出來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/167.wav",
        "text": "這是經濟部能源署網站公告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/168.wav",
        "text": "我今天的問題很簡單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/169.wav",
        "text": "賴清德總統開了政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/170.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都願意相信他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/171.wav",
        "text": "他要努力地去達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/172.wav",
        "text": "政見達成要有路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/173.wav",
        "text": "剛剛院長也表示同意嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/174.wav",
        "text": "2026年要到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/175.wav",
        "text": "其中太陽光電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/176.wav",
        "text": "你們目前的施政計畫是占百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/177.wav",
        "text": "這個問題很具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/178.wav",
        "text": "一點都不複雜也不困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/179.wav",
        "text": "太陽光電要占百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/180.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/181.wav",
        "text": "現在是2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/182.wav",
        "text": "所以還有兩年的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/183.wav",
        "text": "所以我們國發會也在努力幫經濟部再找新的能源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/184.wav",
        "text": "跟你報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/185.wav",
        "text": "國內已經有廠商開始安裝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/186.wav",
        "text": "由瓦斯轉藍綠氫的綠能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/187.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/188.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛所講的那個新技術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/189.wav",
        "text": "我們打算在2026年產生大約是1.5GW"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/190.wav",
        "text": "1.5GW在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/191.wav",
        "text": "這個數字我們算出來再給委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/192.wav",
        "text": "施政不能只喊口號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/193.wav",
        "text": "施政要有路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/194.wav",
        "text": "我希望達到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/195.wav",
        "text": "現在是10.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/196.wav",
        "text": "我們還有9.3%要make up"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/197.wav",
        "text": "太陽光電打算占百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/198.wav",
        "text": "這樣子一個施政路徑的藍圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/199.wav",
        "text": "難道不應該讓社會知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/200.wav",
        "text": "請委員理解我一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/201.wav",
        "text": "我這兩天跟劉主委談到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/202.wav",
        "text": "我們很多綠能的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/203.wav",
        "text": "我們有很多項別"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/204.wav",
        "text": "我會跟他去做很多的瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/205.wav",
        "text": "之後我們才訂一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/206.wav",
        "text": "未來可以看得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/207.wav",
        "text": "我想這個速度不會很慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/208.wav",
        "text": "會讓大家知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/209.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/210.wav",
        "text": "我們馬上會去進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/211.wav",
        "text": "瞭解已經安排好時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/212.wav",
        "text": "需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/213.wav",
        "text": "我們一個月會給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/214.wav",
        "text": "因為這個要具體的問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/215.wav",
        "text": "我們才能實事求是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/216.wav",
        "text": "就是論事的討論問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/217.wav",
        "text": "嘛要不然全部都在打高空"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/218.wav",
        "text": "開支票"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/219.wav",
        "text": "我相信我也希望達到20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/220.wav",
        "text": "但我為什麼要具體地問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/221.wav",
        "text": "剛剛您所講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/222.wav",
        "text": "新的技術要占百分之幾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/223.wav",
        "text": "因為我們日後都要檢驗的嘛好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/224.wav",
        "text": "我為什麼關心太陽光電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/225.wav",
        "text": "這是一個很關鍵的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/226.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/227.wav",
        "text": "來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/228.wav",
        "text": "目前太陽能光電發電的裝置容量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/229.wav",
        "text": "是12.96GW"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/230.wav",
        "text": "最新的數據到4月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/231.wav",
        "text": "這應該不會錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/232.wav",
        "text": "全部都是經濟部的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/233.wav",
        "text": "好在這樣的情況之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/234.wav",
        "text": "目前太陽光電"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/235.wav",
        "text": "在我們發電量的占比是4.7%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/236.wav",
        "text": "到2026年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/237.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛為什麼要問這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/238.wav",
        "text": "我需要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/239.wav",
        "text": "你們打算占的比例是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/240.wav",
        "text": "我才能夠去估計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/241.wav",
        "text": "你要再多多少GW"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/242.wav",
        "text": "才能夠達到這個p"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/243.wav",
        "text": "這是一個非常率直"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/244.wav",
        "text": "而且非常重要的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/245.wav",
        "text": "為什麼是非常重要的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/246.wav",
        "text": "我們在討論目標的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/247.wav",
        "text": "不是喊口號就會到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/248.wav",
        "text": "所以我需要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/249.wav",
        "text": "你太陽光電的占比要多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/250.wav",
        "text": "你要有多少的發電裝置容量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/251.wav",
        "text": "才可以make up"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/252.wav",
        "text": "你希望達到的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/253.wav",
        "text": "我相信我在這邊問的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/254.wav",
        "text": "說的都是合情合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/255.wav",
        "text": "也是人民所關心的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/256.wav",
        "text": "但是這件事情在政府的政策上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/257.wav",
        "text": "為什麼重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/258.wav",
        "text": "因為我們需要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/259.wav",
        "text": "我們要達到那個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/260.wav",
        "text": "還需要投入多少土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/261.wav",
        "text": "1公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/262.wav",
        "text": "可以發多少MW"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/263.wav",
        "text": "您知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/264.wav",
        "text": "我們跟委員報告過了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/265.wav",
        "text": "可以發展起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/266.wav",
        "text": "這個會改變"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/267.wav",
        "text": "你不能只有目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/268.wav",
        "text": "你要有路徑"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/269.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這件事情重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/270.wav",
        "text": "因為我要知道的是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/271.wav",
        "text": "我要知道的是2026年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/272.wav",
        "text": "我們盤點現在的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/273.wav",
        "text": "到2026年為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/274.wav",
        "text": "我要達到太陽光電的發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/275.wav",
        "text": "我需要知道一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/276.wav",
        "text": "還需要多少土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/277.wav",
        "text": "這個對施政重不重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/278.wav",
        "text": "當然重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/279.wav",
        "text": "為什麼重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/280.wav",
        "text": "我跟院長報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/281.wav",
        "text": "能源用地白皮書──光電篇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/282.wav",
        "text": "去年經濟部說年底的時候要公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/283.wav",
        "text": "到現在還沒有公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/284.wav",
        "text": "這個能源用地的白皮書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/285.wav",
        "text": "請問什麼時候可以公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/286.wav",
        "text": "這個是你們網頁上面寫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/287.wav",
        "text": "嚴謹制定綠能發展區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/288.wav",
        "text": "將能源用地白皮書規劃指引"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/289.wav",
        "text": "這個白皮書我到今天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/290.wav",
        "text": "不斷地搜尋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/291.wav",
        "text": "還沒有公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/292.wav",
        "text": "請問什麼時候公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/293.wav",
        "text": "這會牽涉到你的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/294.wav",
        "text": "到底有沒有realistic"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/295.wav",
        "text": "你的土地規劃到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/296.wav",
        "text": "還需要多少公頃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/297.wav",
        "text": "打算要在哪裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/298.wav",
        "text": "這不是行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/299.wav",
        "text": "每天應該要做的事情嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/300.wav",
        "text": "我們今年底以前會公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/301.wav",
        "text": "今年底才會公布喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/302.wav",
        "text": "還需要這麼久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/303.wav",
        "text": "整整delay了一年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/304.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我拭目以待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/305.wav",
        "text": "因為你們土地一定要盤點出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/306.wav",
        "text": "要不然大家怎麼知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/307.wav",
        "text": "我們政府的施政計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/308.wav",
        "text": "達到這個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/309.wav",
        "text": "要不然一天到晚在喊20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/310.wav",
        "text": "20%20%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/311.wav",
        "text": "等到2028年的時候才說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/312.wav",
        "text": "對不起沒有做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/313.wav",
        "text": "基於什麼樣的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/314.wav",
        "text": "我們現在就要知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/315.wav",
        "text": "你的施政藍圖是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/316.wav",
        "text": "你的施政路徑是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/317.wav",
        "text": "你的施政計畫是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/318.wav",
        "text": "需要多少土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/319.wav",
        "text": "政府盤點土地的結果是如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/320.wav",
        "text": "我相信這都是非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/321.wav",
        "text": "而且非常理性的公共政策討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/322.wav",
        "text": "完全沒有任何政治口水在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/323.wav",
        "text": "我希望剛剛院長所承諾的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/324.wav",
        "text": "一個月時間告訴全體國人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/325.wav",
        "text": "你的路徑是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/326.wav",
        "text": "今年年底以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/327.wav",
        "text": "把能源用地白皮書公布出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/328.wav",
        "text": "可以承諾嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/329.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/330.wav",
        "text": "下一個很重要的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/331.wav",
        "text": "我支持發展綠能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/332.wav",
        "text": "但我痛恨政治權貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/333.wav",
        "text": "攀炎附勢違法濫權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/334.wav",
        "text": "胡搞瞎搞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/335.wav",
        "text": "力暘集團"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/336.wav",
        "text": "就是一個最典型的例子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/337.wav",
        "text": "透過偽造變造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/338.wav",
        "text": "當初農委會跟它講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/339.wav",
        "text": "你根本不符合但書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/340.wav",
        "text": "不可用小二甲破碎的農地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/341.wav",
        "text": "能源局也跟它講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/342.wav",
        "text": "你根本就不可以納入110年的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/343.wav",
        "text": "你是109年搞的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/344.wav",
        "text": "結果我們的中央到地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/345.wav",
        "text": "通風報信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/346.wav",
        "text": "量身打造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/347.wav",
        "text": "幫這個綠色權貴搞解套方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/348.wav",
        "text": "然後檢察官很火大起訴了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/349.wav",
        "text": "不法獲利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/350.wav",
        "text": "倒填日期139案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/351.wav",
        "text": "不實文件比例達到96.15"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/352.wav",
        "text": "%透過騙來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/353.wav",
        "text": "的不實資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/354.wav",
        "text": "偽造變造文件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/355.wav",
        "text": "取得的電業籌設許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/356.wav",
        "text": "絕對是一個違法的行政處分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/357.wav",
        "text": "在舊的政府要下臺以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/358.wav",
        "text": "我問得非常的清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/359.wav",
        "text": "經濟部跟我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/360.wav",
        "text": "他們絕對會做行政調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/361.wav",
        "text": "該撤銷就要撤銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/362.wav",
        "text": "請問目前調查的進度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/363.wav",
        "text": "違法取得的電業籌設許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/364.wav",
        "text": "違法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/365.wav",
        "text": "現在圖利被起訴的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/366.wav",
        "text": "違法電業籌設許可要不要撤銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/367.wav",
        "text": "我們目前已經全面停止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/368.wav",
        "text": "力暘申請案的行政作業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/369.wav",
        "text": "那是另外一回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/370.wav",
        "text": "喔前面用偽造變造的文書"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/371.wav",
        "text": "騙到的電業籌設許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/372.wav",
        "text": "是不是違法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/373.wav",
        "text": "依照行政程序法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/374.wav",
        "text": "我們大概會依法來辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/375.wav",
        "text": "依法來辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/376.wav",
        "text": "是依法要撤銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/377.wav",
        "text": "還需要多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/378.wav",
        "text": "依照判決來決定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/379.wav",
        "text": "依照判決不對喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/380.wav",
        "text": "現在的判決是刑事司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/381.wav",
        "text": "有沒有刑事司法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/382.wav",
        "text": "有貪污治罪條例的構成要件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/383.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛自己說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/384.wav",
        "text": "行政程序是依照行政程序法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/385.wav",
        "text": "這沒有判決的問題啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/386.wav",
        "text": "我們要看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/387.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候要撤銷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/388.wav",
        "text": "我們要依照法院認定的事實來辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/389.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫做法院認定的事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/390.wav",
        "text": "你們行政調查報告還要做多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/391.wav",
        "text": "行政調查報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/392.wav",
        "text": "好行政調查報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154397/393.wav",
        "text": "謝謝卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/1.wav",
        "text": "請主席邀請卓院長還有農業部陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/2.wav",
        "text": "卓院長還有陳部長請備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/3.wav",
        "text": "陳委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/4.wav",
        "text": "院長午安還有部長午安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/5.wav",
        "text": "我們知道雞蛋是民生的必需品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/6.wav",
        "text": "不管是家庭的需求或者是餐飲業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/7.wav",
        "text": "糕餅業等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/8.wav",
        "text": "我們看到缺蛋的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/9.wav",
        "text": "因為買不到蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/10.wav",
        "text": "就會造成消費者有怨言"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/11.wav",
        "text": "產量過剩的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/12.wav",
        "text": "產地價格崩盤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/13.wav",
        "text": "也會造成蛋農叫苦連天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/14.wav",
        "text": "\n我們看到最近6月25號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/15.wav",
        "text": "也就是這個禮拜蛋商公會決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/16.wav",
        "text": "降到每臺斤35元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/17.wav",
        "text": "可以說創了近三年來的新低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/18.wav",
        "text": "以致最近蛋農真的叫苦連天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/19.wav",
        "text": "政府有沒有什麼對策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/20.wav",
        "text": "讓價格不要崩盤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/21.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/22.wav",
        "text": "其產業鏈從種雞雛雞蛋中雞到蛋雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/23.wav",
        "text": "至少要七個月左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/24.wav",
        "text": "還沒有非常強大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/25.wav",
        "text": "當價格比較低的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/26.wav",
        "text": "候會淘汰老母雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/27.wav",
        "text": "我們希望蛋農平均每個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/28.wav",
        "text": "能淘汰120萬隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/29.wav",
        "text": "我們的目標大概是180萬隻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/30.wav",
        "text": "讓生產蛋效率不佳的老母雞淘汰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/31.wav",
        "text": "讓產蛋效率比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/32.wav",
        "text": "不過更重要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/33.wav",
        "text": "在整個產銷供需裡有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/34.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是由市場機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/35.wav",
        "text": "完全採行市場機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/36.wav",
        "text": "消費者現在很多消費者都在觀望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/37.wav",
        "text": "為什麼產地價格降了十幾塊降這麼多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/38.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分我們會積極去溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/39.wav",
        "text": "我們當然知道有市場機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/40.wav",
        "text": "可是我們現在要問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/41.wav",
        "text": "對於過剩的部分要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/42.wav",
        "text": "有沒有辦法幫忙促"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/43.wav",
        "text": "竟還釋出1,000萬顆的進口蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/44.wav",
        "text": "這部分是不是可以請部長說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/45.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明畜產會所釋出的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/46.wav",
        "text": "最主要是以蛋粉或液蛋為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/47.wav",
        "text": "有一部分是茶葉蛋但這部分比較少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/48.wav",
        "text": "釋出為主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/49.wav",
        "text": "讓產地的價格本身能夠比較持平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/50.wav",
        "text": "希望在蛋多的時候能夠採類似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/51.wav",
        "text": "我們評估的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/52.wav",
        "text": "是如果在這個時間點進場去收購"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/53.wav",
        "text": "蛋農就不會做調節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/54.wav",
        "text": "所以我們分兩個階段處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/55.wav",
        "text": "也是一個節奏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/56.wav",
        "text": "也提到淘汰老母雞但我們也擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/57.wav",
        "text": "從2015年到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/58.wav",
        "text": "然後產量過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/59.wav",
        "text": "然後缺蛋產量過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/60.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在在這邊要提醒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/61.wav",
        "text": "應該要好好檢討整個生產的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/62.wav",
        "text": "有什麼問題是我們要去克服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/63.wav",
        "text": "的不要讓缺蛋或者產量過剩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/64.wav",
        "text": "的問題這樣一直在循環"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/65.wav",
        "text": "農業部應該有去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/66.wav",
        "text": "為什麼缺蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/67.wav",
        "text": "病毒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/68.wav",
        "text": "並思考怎麼去解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/69.wav",
        "text": "部長你說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/70.wav",
        "text": "我們也深刻地去檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/71.wav",
        "text": "在112年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/72.wav",
        "text": "因為禽流感在全世界大規模的發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/73.wav",
        "text": "造成就算你再生產的時候也不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/74.wav",
        "text": "其中還有另外一個非常重要的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/75.wav",
        "text": "整個產地從種雞雛雞蛋中雞到蛋雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/76.wav",
        "text": "本身資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/77.wav",
        "text": "所以我在這邊已經要求我們所有畜牧司的同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/78.wav",
        "text": "針對整個產業鏈的資訊掌握要更及時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/79.wav",
        "text": "因為唯有從整個產業鏈裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/80.wav",
        "text": "各個產業別本身的這些隻數能夠去瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/81.wav",
        "text": "包括換羽的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/82.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在已經啟動了這樣一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/83.wav",
        "text": "然後看用什麼樣的方式讓這個資訊更健全"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/84.wav",
        "text": "當你把這個資訊更掌握的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/85.wav",
        "text": "再做後續預警的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/86.wav",
        "text": "就能更有效率啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/87.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分我想我們會針對我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/88.wav",
        "text": "看到的這些必須檢討的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/89.wav",
        "text": "好也就是說整個生產資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/90.wav",
        "text": "真的很重要要去掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/91.wav",
        "text": "目前蛋農遇到的問題就是蛋價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/92.wav",
        "text": "已經不敷成本了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/93.wav",
        "text": "很多蛋農都覺得他們撐不下去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/94.wav",
        "text": "如果還要等你所說的淘汰老母雞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/95.wav",
        "text": "這真的對他們的幫助不大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/96.wav",
        "text": "請問你們還有沒有什麼比較實質上的幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/97.wav",
        "text": "我們還有一個就是現在蛋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/98.wav",
        "text": "因為他們降價的幅度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/99.wav",
        "text": "雖然過去他們有兩三次的降價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/100.wav",
        "text": "應該這麼講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/101.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在也希望再跟這些飼料廠來做溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/102.wav",
        "text": "希望政府提供了營業稅的降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/103.wav",
        "text": "其實應該回饋到生產端的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/104.wav",
        "text": "對於這個部分我想我們會努力的來協助溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/105.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/106.wav",
        "text": "接下來我要請教有關產業的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/107.wav",
        "text": "再加上過去我們也看到台積電是我們的護國神山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/108.wav",
        "text": "它在我們國內設廠也引起地方很多縣市爭相"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/109.wav",
        "text": "是不是請教卓院長就你所瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/110.wav",
        "text": "彰化縣有沒有可能爭取台積電或輝達來設廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/111.wav",
        "text": "世界的大廠能夠到臺灣來投資都是我們歡迎的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/112.wav",
        "text": "但是我們也要做好所有的基礎設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/113.wav",
        "text": "包括水電的供應還有整個投資環境工作環境等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/114.wav",
        "text": "我們會給這些大廠充足的資訊告訴它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/115.wav",
        "text": "它的產業在哪裡我們能夠提供最好的服務給它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/116.wav",
        "text": "我想最終的決定還是在他們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/117.wav",
        "text": "我知道很多縣市包括首長民意代表都很積極的在爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/118.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這都是給他們一個很好的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/119.wav",
        "text": "希望到最後總是落在臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/120.wav",
        "text": "這個才是對臺灣未來整體科技發展跟經濟升級是有幫忙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/121.wav",
        "text": "請教院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/122.wav",
        "text": "你知道全國各縣市勞工平均薪資最低的是哪裡嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/123.wav",
        "text": "我只知道彰化是雞蛋下最多的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/124.wav",
        "text": "彰化縣是勞工平均薪資最低的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/125.wav",
        "text": "卓院長你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/126.wav",
        "text": "因為都是傳統產業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/127.wav",
        "text": "因為傳統產業的薪資本來就只能維持在那樣的薪資水平"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/128.wav",
        "text": "才有可能做到一方面帶動產業的發展繁榮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/129.wav",
        "text": "其實我們地方也都很期待台積電跟輝達這些科技大廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/130.wav",
        "text": "可是礙於用水用電的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/131.wav",
        "text": "可能就是沒有那個條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/132.wav",
        "text": "次長你知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/133.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/134.wav",
        "text": "其實目前我們去盤點過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/135.wav",
        "text": "彰化的水跟電都沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/136.wav",
        "text": "尤其彰化目前就只有一個超高壓的用電戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/137.wav",
        "text": "其他整個供電的部分是足夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/138.wav",
        "text": "的水也是足夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/139.wav",
        "text": "就您這樣說的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/140.wav",
        "text": "林中科可以爭取台積電跟輝達來設廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/141.wav",
        "text": "那個因為是縣政府開發的工業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/142.wav",
        "text": "我們會積極來跟地方政府合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/143.wav",
        "text": "因為那個精密機械"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/144.wav",
        "text": "到底哪些可以進駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/145.wav",
        "text": "還要再跟地方政府討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/146.wav",
        "text": "因為二林中科當初在開發時的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/147.wav",
        "text": "就是有高耗能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/148.wav",
        "text": "也就是限定在低耗能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/149.wav",
        "text": "低耗水的產業進駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/150.wav",
        "text": "有一個總量的用水跟用電的上限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/151.wav",
        "text": "所以整體的用電用水當然沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/152.wav",
        "text": "可是對於這個園區來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/153.wav",
        "text": "對於這個部分我們有可能協助它來解除這樣的限制嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/154.wav",
        "text": "我們再來跟地方政府討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/155.wav",
        "text": "再跟縣政府討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/156.wav",
        "text": "跟它討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/157.wav",
        "text": "這個應該是由中央來決定吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/158.wav",
        "text": "因為那個是縣政府的工業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/159.wav",
        "text": "不是經濟部主管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/160.wav",
        "text": "所以我們會站在從旁協助的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/161.wav",
        "text": "來跟縣政府討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/162.wav",
        "text": "所以要不要解除是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/163.wav",
        "text": "彰化縣政府決定就可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/164.wav",
        "text": "這個程序我現在沒有辦法完整的回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/165.wav",
        "text": "不過因為它是縣政府開發的工業區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/166.wav",
        "text": "我們會站在從旁協助的立場來協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/167.wav",
        "text": "可能也是考慮到供水跟供電的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/168.wav",
        "text": "沒有水庫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/169.wav",
        "text": "所以在用水上當然地方當初可能會去擔憂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/170.wav",
        "text": "是不是會排擠到民生用水或農業用水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/171.wav",
        "text": "當初可能有這樣的一個考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/172.wav",
        "text": "但對於這樣子的外部條件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/173.wav",
        "text": "事實上我們是可以去改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/174.wav",
        "text": "去強化的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/175.wav",
        "text": "是不是院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/176.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/177.wav",
        "text": "在水的部分水利署現在有要做臺中彰化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/178.wav",
        "text": "還有雲林這邊的調度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/179.wav",
        "text": "我們希望未來能夠有所改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/180.wav",
        "text": "是有關電的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/181.wav",
        "text": "因為我們彰化外海"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/182.wav",
        "text": "就是整個臺灣應該說是最優質最大的離岸風電場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/183.wav",
        "text": "場目前我們在外海的風機也就是離岸風電的發電量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/184.wav",
        "text": "應該有達到3%至4%了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/185.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以在用電上應該是很足夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/186.wav",
        "text": "至於水的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/187.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也看到目前政府從北到南都有在規劃海淡廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/188.wav",
        "text": "獨獨就是彰化縣沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/189.wav",
        "text": "希望中央政府也可以來規劃考量設置海淡廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/190.wav",
        "text": "在強化了水電的條件之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/191.wav",
        "text": "科技產業才有可能來進駐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/192.wav",
        "text": "報告委員現在水是足夠的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/193.wav",
        "text": "而且未來會要求50%以下要用再生水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/194.wav",
        "text": "所以我們先做再生水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/195.wav",
        "text": "那個水還會有多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/196.wav",
        "text": "所以目前看起來水跟電都不是問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/197.wav",
        "text": "我們先要來解決園區的管理規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/198.wav",
        "text": "這應該是第一個題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154398/199.wav",
        "text": "能夠留住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/0.wav",
        "text": "有請卓院長還有農業部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/1.wav",
        "text": "陳部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/2.wav",
        "text": "卓院長請備詢還有農業部長請備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/3.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/4.wav",
        "text": "我希望這個風氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/5.wav",
        "text": "我想不管是質詢或者是備詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/6.wav",
        "text": "彼此尊重才是最重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/7.wav",
        "text": "不管過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/8.wav",
        "text": "或者是現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/9.wav",
        "text": "或者是將來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/10.wav",
        "text": "我都不會用上對下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/11.wav",
        "text": "這樣子的質詢方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/12.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/13.wav",
        "text": "謝謝院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/14.wav",
        "text": "今天我所有主題其實都跟動保相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/15.wav",
        "text": "這也是我個人非常關心的一些議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/16.wav",
        "text": "其實非常非常的多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/17.wav",
        "text": "就我所知2022年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/18.wav",
        "text": "農業部也曾經有列冊說要輔導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/19.wav",
        "text": "臺灣大概將近178家的私人狗場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/20.wav",
        "text": "包含他們自己的土地"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/21.wav",
        "text": "這個成本比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/22.wav",
        "text": "有一點關係所以到後來是無疾而終"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/23.wav",
        "text": "啦\n昨天有一個新聞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/24.wav",
        "text": "我相信其實大家都知道了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/25.wav",
        "text": "──就是臺北市土地使用分區管制自治條例有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/26.wav",
        "text": "所以也引發了他自殺這樣子一個令人遺憾的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/27.wav",
        "text": "\n不過在這裡我還是要再次重申"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/28.wav",
        "text": "因為其實寵物是家人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/29.wav",
        "text": "毛小孩的福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/30.wav",
        "text": "我相信將來也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/31.wav",
        "text": "不管地方自治是怎麼樣執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/32.wav",
        "text": "在對於所謂人和動物的實際關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/33.wav",
        "text": "\n回到3月1號我在總質詢的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/34.wav",
        "text": "我相信您應該有聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/35.wav",
        "text": "我想動保警察的議題我們已經討論了非常非常久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/36.wav",
        "text": "你們要合作設立所謂的動保警察"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/37.wav",
        "text": "後續我的辦公室也都持續有在follow"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/38.wav",
        "text": "針對這些細節來做一些討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/39.wav",
        "text": "賦予動檢員司法警察權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/40.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們大家都覺得可行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/41.wav",
        "text": "的而且可能是有共識的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/42.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也儘量希望能夠往這個部分來前進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/43.wav",
        "text": "當然也要搭配所謂的一些配套措施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/44.wav",
        "text": "包含人員要怎麼招聘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/45.wav",
        "text": "以及他們的待遇跟加給部分要怎麼樣擬定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/46.wav",
        "text": "才能夠留得住人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/47.wav",
        "text": "這也是很重要的一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/48.wav",
        "text": "\n但是就在今天的總質詢之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/49.wav",
        "text": "在確定這件事情的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/50.wav",
        "text": "卻聽到了不一樣的答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/51.wav",
        "text": "部長您今天在這裡我想直接問您會比較快一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/52.wav",
        "text": "因為他們說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/53.wav",
        "text": "賦予動保警察權可能對現有的一些制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/54.wav",
        "text": "會有一些些的重大影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/55.wav",
        "text": "這影響到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/56.wav",
        "text": "不可行的原因又是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/57.wav",
        "text": "然後又說一個月後會有一個報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/58.wav",
        "text": "所以現在無法透露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/59.wav",
        "text": "到底有什麼是不能說的秘密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/60.wav",
        "text": "在這裡我們不要把它當秘密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/61.wav",
        "text": "因為我想這是全民的期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/62.wav",
        "text": "動保警察在國外行之有年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/63.wav",
        "text": "他們也做得非常好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/64.wav",
        "text": "不管是英國也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/65.wav",
        "text": "美國也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/66.wav",
        "text": "荷蘭也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/67.wav",
        "text": "有這麼好的範本都已經在前面示範了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/68.wav",
        "text": "沒有理由臺灣做不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/69.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我想要知道一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/70.wav",
        "text": "到底什麼叫做秘密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/71.wav",
        "text": "這個秘密可不可以在這邊公開呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/72.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/73.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員長期對於動保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/74.wav",
        "text": "特別是動物福利動物保護的關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/75.wav",
        "text": "絕對沒有什麼秘密"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/76.wav",
        "text": "我們用非常務實的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/77.wav",
        "text": "先讓動保檢查人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/78.wav",
        "text": "能夠針對一些私領域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/79.wav",
        "text": "過去動保人員都不能進到私領域去調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/80.wav",
        "text": "我們先處理這個區塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/81.wav",
        "text": "讓動保檢查人員能夠進到私領域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/82.wav",
        "text": "因為動保警察本身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/83.wav",
        "text": "我們那時候考慮到現在動保人員"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/84.wav",
        "text": "的流動率非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/85.wav",
        "text": "相對的你要去賦予警察的司法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/86.wav",
        "text": "他流動率很高的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/87.wav",
        "text": "就會造成一些缺口"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/88.wav",
        "text": "嘛包含人員的訓練這也是很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/89.wav",
        "text": "只是我們每一次在討論到這個話題的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/90.wav",
        "text": "像這樣子的一個說法就進來了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/91.wav",
        "text": "但是每一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/92.wav",
        "text": "大概幾個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/93.wav",
        "text": "又聽到類似這樣子的一個說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/94.wav",
        "text": "到底我們什麼時候才能夠真正實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/95.wav",
        "text": "沒有我的作法就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/96.wav",
        "text": "分兩階段"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/97.wav",
        "text": "能夠進到私領域去查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/98.wav",
        "text": "其實我們也在跟人事總處再去處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/99.wav",
        "text": "不管是地方政府也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/100.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話以後的受訓"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/101.wav",
        "text": "才有其意義"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/102.wav",
        "text": "或是用計畫人員去受訓的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/103.wav",
        "text": "他的流動率太高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/104.wav",
        "text": "而人事總處這邊"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/105.wav",
        "text": "我希望能夠在有比較明確的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/106.wav",
        "text": "我們就會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/107.wav",
        "text": "因為內部的這些訓練規劃"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/108.wav",
        "text": "其實我們已經有一些規劃了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/109.wav",
        "text": "有一些規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/110.wav",
        "text": "可以有一個比較進程的計畫"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/111.wav",
        "text": "因為剛剛有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/112.wav",
        "text": "他說一個月後會有一個明確的報告是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/113.wav",
        "text": "對我們的報告包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/114.wav",
        "text": "包括我們的動保檢查人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/115.wav",
        "text": "在執行這些司法警察相關權力的時候"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/116.wav",
        "text": "他必須要有的職能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/117.wav",
        "text": "跟他後面的一個訓練計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/118.wav",
        "text": "然後人員的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/119.wav",
        "text": "我們會積極地跟人事總處這邊瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/120.wav",
        "text": "所以動保司回應我的就是"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/121.wav",
        "text": "一個月之後會有一個比較完整的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/122.wav",
        "text": "對我會跟他們再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/123.wav",
        "text": "把一個很明確地把這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/124.wav",
        "text": "我們做的進度跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/125.wav",
        "text": "認養的黑名單跟灰名單之類的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/126.wav",
        "text": "這個其實也是一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/127.wav",
        "text": "我想現在只要有身分證字號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/128.wav",
        "text": "或者是出生年月日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/129.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都可以在寵登的系統上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/130.wav",
        "text": "有沒有違反動保法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/131.wav",
        "text": "有沒有一些紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/132.wav",
        "text": "還有包含他曾經養過多少隻的貓狗等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/133.wav",
        "text": "這是很清楚的一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/134.wav",
        "text": "如果我沒記錯的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/135.wav",
        "text": "也已經特別地完成了違反家暴的一個防治法"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/136.wav",
        "text": "或者是這個資料上面的串聯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/137.wav",
        "text": "要領養我貓狗的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/138.wav",
        "text": "但是針對違反家暴法紀錄的這個部分"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/139.wav",
        "text": "一般民眾其實在一般的系統上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/140.wav",
        "text": "這個說法是說因為隱私權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/141.wav",
        "text": "違反動保法的紀錄我們看得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/142.wav",
        "text": "但違反家暴法的紀錄我們卻看不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/143.wav",
        "text": "這個標準是怎麼訂出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/144.wav",
        "text": "我想可能委員有點誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/145.wav",
        "text": "就是我們跟動保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/146.wav",
        "text": "因為有家暴跟動物虐待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/147.wav",
        "text": "變成一個風險區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/148.wav",
        "text": "是公家單位可以查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/149.wav",
        "text": "一般民眾是沒辦法查的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/150.wav",
        "text": "對公家的送養單位可以查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/151.wav",
        "text": "但是民間是不可以查得到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/152.wav",
        "text": "因為它牽扯到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/153.wav",
        "text": "特別是在家暴的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/154.wav",
        "text": "如果他犯有一些刑事的這些狀況的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/155.wav",
        "text": "那變成是一個滿嚴重的隱私揭露"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/156.wav",
        "text": "在這個部分其實是為了保障他的隱私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/157.wav",
        "text": "而且目前也沒有規定說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/158.wav",
        "text": "我曾經有家暴我就不能認養"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/159.wav",
        "text": "這之間的關聯性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/160.wav",
        "text": "我們只是把它列為高風險區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/161.wav",
        "text": "所以我現在也在跟同仁討論後續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/162.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣用一個示警的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/163.wav",
        "text": "而不是用揭露這個人本身過去的紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/164.wav",
        "text": "我覺得用高風險的概念提出一個示警"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/165.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話在不揭露的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/166.wav",
        "text": "這個也是我們比較擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/167.wav",
        "text": "的因為我們知道有很多所謂情商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/168.wav",
        "text": "有一些狀況的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/169.wav",
        "text": "包含我們曾經講過的茶茶案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/170.wav",
        "text": "其實就是恐怖情人所為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/171.wav",
        "text": "所以其實會有這樣子傾向的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/172.wav",
        "text": "他極有可能就是剛剛您說的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/173.wav",
        "text": "是高風險的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/174.wav",
        "text": "如果我的寵物或者是我的貓狗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/175.wav",
        "text": "是被高風險的人認養的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/176.wav",
        "text": "的確也有可能產生這樣子的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/177.wav",
        "text": "所以這部分你們可能要儘量找出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/178.wav",
        "text": "也讓一般的民眾能夠知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/179.wav",
        "text": "我想是不是可以在不揭露個人資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/180.wav",
        "text": "他的詳細資訊的前提之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/181.wav",
        "text": "用風險等級方式讓這個送養單位去做查核"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/182.wav",
        "text": "這樣的話我想一方面保護了個人的隱私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/183.wav",
        "text": "另一方面也確保我們的寵物給領養人的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/184.wav",
        "text": "如果牠是在檢疫所當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/185.wav",
        "text": "但是目前為止\n我那時候其實有特別講過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/186.wav",
        "text": "我們家的貓貓狗狗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/187.wav",
        "text": "如果在我們要出國的時候也是送旅館"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/188.wav",
        "text": "旅館其實也有24小時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/189.wav",
        "text": "我隨時只要跟它連線之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/190.wav",
        "text": "就可以看得到我自己的貓狗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/191.wav",
        "text": "在寵物旅館的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/192.wav",
        "text": "沒道理我們自己本身的檢疫所是做不到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/193.wav",
        "text": "這個部分現在大概做到什麼樣的地步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/194.wav",
        "text": "我想我非常認同委員的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/195.wav",
        "text": "特別在關心我們已經提供一些經費給它做一些基本的維修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/196.wav",
        "text": "讓牠在這7天的隔離期間會有一個比較好的舒適環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/197.wav",
        "text": "第二個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/198.wav",
        "text": "探視的次數可以增加嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/199.wav",
        "text": "因為現在每一個籠都有監視器"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/200.wav",
        "text": "然後我會給他一個特定的帳號密碼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/201.wav",
        "text": "而不是說你現在打電話來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/202.wav",
        "text": "我再提供我覺得這是被動的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/203.wav",
        "text": "我希望能夠做一個主動的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/204.wav",
        "text": "像貓狗旅館這種我想我們會儘快去實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/205.wav",
        "text": "\n第三個就是探視的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/206.wav",
        "text": "北部觀音的部分是可以預約的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/207.wav",
        "text": "南部則是在中興大學跟屏科大本身的獸醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/208.wav",
        "text": "因為它是教學醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/209.wav",
        "text": "本身是沒有辦法接受預約的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/210.wav",
        "text": "但這個部分我們會再跟他們協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/211.wav",
        "text": "的確自己的寵物到了一個陌生的環境之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/212.wav",
        "text": "可能會有一些恐慌"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/213.wav",
        "text": "所以多讓飼主去探視我覺得這是必要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/214.wav",
        "text": "所以我會朝這個方向努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/215.wav",
        "text": "大概會用這樣一個方式來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/216.wav",
        "text": "因為我們知道小港機場的入境隔離檢驗所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/217.wav",
        "text": "也就是到檢疫所裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/218.wav",
        "text": "但還是要透過鏡頭才能看得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/219.wav",
        "text": "並沒有辦法直接跟自己的寵物接觸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/220.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我是覺得稍微比較冰冷一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/221.wav",
        "text": "對我瞭解這整個的過程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/222.wav",
        "text": "我覺得有些東西是有需要再精進的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/223.wav",
        "text": "我一定會朝這個方向來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/224.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/225.wav",
        "text": "\n接下來還有多元寵物分類分級的管理制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/226.wav",
        "text": "因為現在不管是在夜市也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/227.wav",
        "text": "夾娃娃店也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/228.wav",
        "text": "其實我們都會看得到類似多元不同的寵物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/229.wav",
        "text": "已經不再只是貓狗而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/230.wav",
        "text": "當時也設定了這樣一個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/231.wav",
        "text": "當然也有所謂的白名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/232.wav",
        "text": "白名單就是一般像貓狗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/233.wav",
        "text": "這個其實就是屬於所謂的寵物白名單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/234.wav",
        "text": "但是針對所謂白名單的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/235.wav",
        "text": "當然也有一個重點是就動物福利為主旨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/236.wav",
        "text": "就是教導民眾要怎麼樣來重視動物的福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/237.wav",
        "text": "\n另外就是在黑名單的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/238.wav",
        "text": "其實還有落日條款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/239.wav",
        "text": "這個也一定要成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/240.wav",
        "text": "但是從2022年到現在將近兩年的時間過去了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/241.wav",
        "text": "現在到底進行到哪裡了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/242.wav",
        "text": "我跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/243.wav",
        "text": "有關於飼主本身的飼養責任的指引跟檢索"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/244.wav",
        "text": "一方面可以提供給飼主瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/245.wav",
        "text": "一方面也可以給動保檢查人員瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/246.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/247.wav",
        "text": "我們現在正在做動保法的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/248.wav",
        "text": "動保法的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/249.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154399/250.wav",
        "text": "謝謝卓院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席有請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好主席好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/3.wav",
        "text": "部長早安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/4.wav",
        "text": "賴總統在大選期間提出了一系列的健康臺灣政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/5.wav",
        "text": "其中有包含百億癌藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/6.wav",
        "text": "今天我想就跟部長您一起來討論這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/7.wav",
        "text": "6月中有一場臺美合作的肺癌倡議的活動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/8.wav",
        "text": "這個表格是健保署官方的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/9.wav",
        "text": "我對這份資料裡面有很多的問題想請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/10.wav",
        "text": "首先部長這個預算是不是都編列了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/11.wav",
        "text": "明年的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/12.wav",
        "text": "對就是2025嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/13.wav",
        "text": "就是114年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/14.wav",
        "text": "這個百億基金您預計何時撥款何時開始運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/15.wav",
        "text": "可不可以有個參考日期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/16.wav",
        "text": "應該是明年初就可以開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/17.wav",
        "text": "2025年好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/18.wav",
        "text": "我想再請教這個計畫是長久性的還是一年的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/19.wav",
        "text": "當然是長久性的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/20.wav",
        "text": "長久性的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/21.wav",
        "text": "賴總統說這個基金是讓癌症新藥使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/22.wav",
        "text": "正確嗎到底是癌症新藥還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/23.wav",
        "text": "包含癌症新藥的所有新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/24.wav",
        "text": "不是謝謝委員的提問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/25.wav",
        "text": "這個也是大家在討論的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/26.wav",
        "text": "我們最近確認以後是癌症方面的好癌症新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/27.wav",
        "text": "我們今天就是把每一個點都弄清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/28.wav",
        "text": "請問這個基金據說有個運作委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/29.wav",
        "text": "這個委員會組成了嗎有沒有包括病友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/30.wav",
        "text": "將來一定會包括病友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/31.wav",
        "text": "如果明年初要運作那這個基金會大概也要開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/32.wav",
        "text": "我們有一個作業要點在年底前會來制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/33.wav",
        "text": "好部長因為賴總統講了一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/34.wav",
        "text": "他說2030年癌症死亡率要減三分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/35.wav",
        "text": "根據我的想法我的醫學背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/36.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個願望非常的奢侈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/37.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠降低三分之一在醫學上是一個突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/38.wav",
        "text": "您知道每年癌症的死亡人數是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/39.wav",
        "text": "現在是五萬多人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/40.wav",
        "text": "那癌症登記的人數呢癌登的人數是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/41.wav",
        "text": "一年新發生大概有12萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/42.wav",
        "text": "對12萬那總統的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/43.wav",
        "text": "要把這個5萬降成三萬多嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/44.wav",
        "text": "你們有去瞭解嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/45.wav",
        "text": "因為他說要降低癌症死亡率三分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/46.wav",
        "text": "我想這個要一步一步來不"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/47.wav",
        "text": "不是你也是要告訴他這個願望可能太奢侈達不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/48.wav",
        "text": "\n我們再來看這個基金的適用部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/49.wav",
        "text": "但臨床效益債務衝擊評估不確定的癌藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/50.wav",
        "text": "新藥或新適應症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/51.wav",
        "text": "部長您覺得這個定義有清楚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/52.wav",
        "text": "您讀起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/53.wav",
        "text": "清楚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/54.wav",
        "text": "我可以跟部長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/55.wav",
        "text": "因為我在這個委員會已經滿29年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/56.wav",
        "text": "健保第一天開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/57.wav",
        "text": "光是這個你剛才也用英文唸了u"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/58.wav",
        "text": "我可以告訴部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/59.wav",
        "text": "一個新藥有三個定位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/60.wav",
        "text": "一個叫做突破創新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/61.wav",
        "text": "一個叫比現在的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/62.wav",
        "text": "一個叫做跟現在的一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/63.wav",
        "text": "你知道我看過多少案例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/64.wav",
        "text": "一個藥3個主審都是專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/65.wav",
        "text": "3個人的定位都不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/66.wav",
        "text": "所以我可以先告訴部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/67.wav",
        "text": "這個迫切需求大家各說各話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/68.wav",
        "text": "\n第二個臨床效益如果指的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/69.wav",
        "text": "每讓病人多增加一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/70.wav",
        "text": "有品質的存活所需要的額外費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/71.wav",
        "text": "這個爭議更大了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/72.wav",
        "text": "因為太高一定不給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/73.wav",
        "text": "低也不一定就給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/74.wav",
        "text": "因為我們過去整個對新藥評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/75.wav",
        "text": "從來沒有將生活或生命的品質放在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/76.wav",
        "text": "所以我們事實上沒有資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/77.wav",
        "text": "一直都留在價格的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/78.wav",
        "text": "沒有價值部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/79.wav",
        "text": "請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/80.wav",
        "text": "專家沒有資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/81.wav",
        "text": "而且也沒有人瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/82.wav",
        "text": "你如何去聘專家來做這件事呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/83.wav",
        "text": "還有你要用國外的資料嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/84.wav",
        "text": "因為我們癌症過去的給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/85.wav",
        "text": "都是限縮的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/86.wav",
        "text": "我們不像其他國家用到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/87.wav",
        "text": "能夠比疾病再進展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/88.wav",
        "text": "那可以用國外的資料嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/89.wav",
        "text": "這個臨床效益部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/90.wav",
        "text": "您覺得清楚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/91.wav",
        "text": "非常敬佩我們委員這麼專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/92.wav",
        "text": "幾十年來的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/93.wav",
        "text": "告訴我們這些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/94.wav",
        "text": "我們當然會蒐集各國的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/95.wav",
        "text": "其實部長像這個就是在運作的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/96.wav",
        "text": "我們大家都要有好好的共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/97.wav",
        "text": "跟資料的support"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/98.wav",
        "text": "一定一定跟專家一起來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/99.wav",
        "text": "還有財務衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/100.wav",
        "text": "這還在第一句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/101.wav",
        "text": "因為自從2007年11月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/102.wav",
        "text": "開始有提供財務衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/103.wav",
        "text": "給專家們去討論新藥的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/104.wav",
        "text": "我從來沒看過健保署的評估資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/105.wav",
        "text": "跟廠商的評估資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/106.wav",
        "text": "或是專家學會的評估資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/107.wav",
        "text": "是一模一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/108.wav",
        "text": "而且差距甚至非常大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/109.wav",
        "text": "超過1億的都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/110.wav",
        "text": "所以我向部長確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/111.wav",
        "text": "這裡的財務衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/112.wav",
        "text": "不是申報費用對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/113.wav",
        "text": "它是指如果這個病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/114.wav",
        "text": "對嗎是不是這個定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/115.wav",
        "text": "財務衝擊是這個定義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/116.wav",
        "text": "這叫財務衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/117.wav",
        "text": "不是申報費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/118.wav",
        "text": "但是財務衝擊就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/119.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛講說能夠算得清楚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/120.wav",
        "text": "有真相嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/121.wav",
        "text": "因為我從來搞不清"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/122.wav",
        "text": "新藥預算是怎麼算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/123.wav",
        "text": "過去只編230億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/124.wav",
        "text": "今年好像編得多一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/125.wav",
        "text": "我們都不知道新藥預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/126.wav",
        "text": "怎麼算用了多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/127.wav",
        "text": "怎麼用這個搞不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/128.wav",
        "text": "因為計算很複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/129.wav",
        "text": "非常的複雜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/130.wav",
        "text": "計算的方法也是有爭議的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/131.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/132.wav",
        "text": "因為財務風險評估的確是不太確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/133.wav",
        "text": "所以才會用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/134.wav",
        "text": "我也很同情你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/135.wav",
        "text": "主計處的GDP成長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/136.wav",
        "text": "一年可以調整十幾次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/137.wav",
        "text": "你這裡不能調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/138.wav",
        "text": "啊這裡很固定的就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/139.wav",
        "text": "\n我們再來看期程經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/140.wav",
        "text": "目前預估是每年100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/141.wav",
        "text": "所以我再確定一次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/142.wav",
        "text": "這個100億是健保署的實際支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/143.wav",
        "text": "還是醫院的申報費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/144.wav",
        "text": "藥廠跟健保簽有所謂的價量協議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/145.wav",
        "text": "應該是實際的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/146.wav",
        "text": "實際支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/147.wav",
        "text": "嗎因為這個差很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/148.wav",
        "text": "喔部長這定義差很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/149.wav",
        "text": "去年可能還了70億左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/150.wav",
        "text": "前年是50億再往前一年是26"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/151.wav",
        "text": "這跟百億都靠近了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/152.wav",
        "text": "你如果定義不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/153.wav",
        "text": "欸部長您今天說是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/154.wav",
        "text": "實際支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/155.wav",
        "text": "\n再來請問健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/156.wav",
        "text": "2024年編列的新藥新科技預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/157.wav",
        "text": "有包含新藥新特材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/158.wav",
        "text": "NGS還有暫時性支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/159.wav",
        "text": "大概6070億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/160.wav",
        "text": "剛剛你也報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/161.wav",
        "text": "請問這兩塊區分得開嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/162.wav",
        "text": "跟這個區分得開嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/163.wav",
        "text": "就開始縮減了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/164.wav",
        "text": "最後都混在一起了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/165.wav",
        "text": "所以事實上這個百億基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/166.wav",
        "text": "並沒有提供百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/167.wav",
        "text": "部長這個部分怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/168.wav",
        "text": "區分得清楚嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/169.wav",
        "text": "不會去影響到健保裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/170.wav",
        "text": "但是原來就有編新藥新科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/171.wav",
        "text": "現在又有個百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/172.wav",
        "text": "所以我要確定這兩塊切得開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/173.wav",
        "text": "那不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/174.wav",
        "text": "切得開嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/175.wav",
        "text": "切得開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/176.wav",
        "text": "切得開好但願如此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/177.wav",
        "text": "非常非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/178.wav",
        "text": "但是因為健保要永續"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/179.wav",
        "text": "一定要控制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/180.wav",
        "text": "我再請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/181.wav",
        "text": "如果療效很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/182.wav",
        "text": "或是超過所謂的一個上限值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/183.wav",
        "text": "因為這已經發生太多次了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/184.wav",
        "text": "請問這個多出來費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/185.wav",
        "text": "來分攤嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/186.wav",
        "text": "就超過的都是廠商的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/187.wav",
        "text": "部長你覺得這樣合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/188.wav",
        "text": "這個因為是參考英國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/189.wav",
        "text": "Cancer Drugs Fund"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/190.wav",
        "text": "啦由廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/191.wav",
        "text": "部長你應該知道醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/192.wav",
        "text": "還會向廠商要求藥價差"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/193.wav",
        "text": "您知道藥價差有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/194.wav",
        "text": "一年的藥價差有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/195.wav",
        "text": "啊石署長知道啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/196.wav",
        "text": "你問他好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/197.wav",
        "text": "沒有就是一個數字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/198.wav",
        "text": "這個所謂的藥價差就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/199.wav",
        "text": "健保的核價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/200.wav",
        "text": "醫院進價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/201.wav",
        "text": "這中間的差額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/202.wav",
        "text": "以去年為例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/203.wav",
        "text": "大概是在550億左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/204.wav",
        "text": "你現在靠近一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/205.wav",
        "text": "多了50億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/206.wav",
        "text": "靠近600億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/207.wav",
        "text": "現在就是會這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/208.wav",
        "text": "如果說廠商被剝了兩次皮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/209.wav",
        "text": "這個地方超過都要還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/210.wav",
        "text": "然後原來醫院也在給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/211.wav",
        "text": "那請問會不會回到現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/212.wav",
        "text": "一些健保給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/213.wav",
        "text": "或留在自費市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/214.wav",
        "text": "啊大家還是用不到藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/215.wav",
        "text": "所謂的突破創新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/216.wav",
        "text": "都是來自國外的廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/217.wav",
        "text": "嘛他們有國際的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/218.wav",
        "text": "某些程度要去保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/219.wav",
        "text": "那現在怎麼避免呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/220.wav",
        "text": "還是回到現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/221.wav",
        "text": "啊我預期它會回到現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/222.wav",
        "text": "啊這個百億基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/223.wav",
        "text": "最後會回到現況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/224.wav",
        "text": "\n沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/225.wav",
        "text": "這個部分不是這麼容易回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/226.wav",
        "text": "但效益評估的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/227.wav",
        "text": "包括納入給付之前跟之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/228.wav",
        "text": "之前我們只能靠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/229.wav",
        "text": "跟臺灣的流行病學資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/230.wav",
        "text": "之後是用真實世界的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/231.wav",
        "text": "real-world data"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/232.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有找真正的專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/233.wav",
        "text": "來處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/234.wav",
        "text": "這是一個非常嚴謹的科學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/235.wav",
        "text": "任何的研究相關的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/236.wav",
        "text": "一定都找最適當的專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/237.wav",
        "text": "而且CHPTA"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/238.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/239.wav",
        "text": "under在健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/240.wav",
        "text": "下它是一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/241.wav",
        "text": "獨立超然的機機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/242.wav",
        "text": "是不是包括登錄系統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/243.wav",
        "text": "維護系統或是檢測費在裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/244.wav",
        "text": "已經擬定法是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/245.wav",
        "text": "是放在裡面嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/246.wav",
        "text": "再給我一點點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/247.wav",
        "text": "因為100億實在是很大的金額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/248.wav",
        "text": "錄音檔全部公開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/249.wav",
        "text": "那我也希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/250.wav",
        "text": "其他的國家委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/251.wav",
        "text": "也可以效法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/252.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/253.wav",
        "text": "尤其包括疫苗的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/254.wav",
        "text": "都要公開透明的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/255.wav",
        "text": "個所謂財務的衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/256.wav",
        "text": "預估現在有很大的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/257.wav",
        "text": "其實對病人來說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/258.wav",
        "text": "因為你現在叫衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/259.wav",
        "text": "你不只是衛生而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/260.wav",
        "text": "在醫療或非醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/261.wav",
        "text": "方面你幫助小孩子回去上課"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/262.wav",
        "text": "幫助成人回到職場上班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/263.wav",
        "text": "減輕家庭的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/264.wav",
        "text": "減少長照費資源的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/265.wav",
        "text": "這個東西是不是應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/266.wav",
        "text": "納入醫療科技的評估裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/267.wav",
        "text": "但是從來沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/268.wav",
        "text": "啊醫療科技從2007年提供到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/269.wav",
        "text": "還停留在算數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/270.wav",
        "text": "多少病人多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/271.wav",
        "text": "取代哪個費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/272.wav",
        "text": "直接把它加減扣掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/273.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/274.wav",
        "text": "這個只有價格沒有價值的算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/275.wav",
        "text": "部長您同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/276.wav",
        "text": "我比較期待用價值的一個算法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/277.wav",
        "text": "最後一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/278.wav",
        "text": "是我個人的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/279.wav",
        "text": "因為臺灣沒有其他人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/280.wav",
        "text": "做這個統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/281.wav",
        "text": "啦我們因為沒有錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/282.wav",
        "text": "一直限縮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/283.wav",
        "text": "所以我們的癌藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/284.wav",
        "text": "跟其他國家不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/285.wav",
        "text": "你要參考別的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/286.wav",
        "text": "就要小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/287.wav",
        "text": "因為我們頂多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/288.wav",
        "text": "只有三成的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/289.wav",
        "text": "在裡面支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/290.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼去接軌呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/291.wav",
        "text": "怎麼樣用他們的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/292.wav",
        "text": "已經在眼前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/293.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/294.wav",
        "text": "醫藥新科技"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/295.wav",
        "text": "是劃分得開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/296.wav",
        "text": "這份基金很珍貴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/297.wav",
        "text": "得來不易"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/298.wav",
        "text": "我希望它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/299.wav",
        "text": "要釐清很多點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/300.wav",
        "text": "如果你不釐清的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/301.wav",
        "text": "將來它的效益評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/302.wav",
        "text": "不清楚啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/303.wav",
        "text": "部長你要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/304.wav",
        "text": "才能夠在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/305.wav",
        "text": "跟評估的時候是清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/306.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/307.wav",
        "text": "讓民眾得到保障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/308.wav",
        "text": "也兌現賴總統的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/309.wav",
        "text": "一個承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/310.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員專業的指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/311.wav",
        "text": "我們會往這方面努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154400/312.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/0.wav",
        "text": "麻煩部長請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/1.wav",
        "text": "部長早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/2.wav",
        "text": "從一直討論健保點值的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/3.wav",
        "text": "開始常常就會被提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/4.wav",
        "text": "因為醫護人員的薪資非常的低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/5.wav",
        "text": "實際上我們整體去看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/6.wav",
        "text": "長久以來護理師的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/7.wav",
        "text": "大概都是由政府來主導調薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/8.wav",
        "text": "包括夜班的獎勵繁重加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/9.wav",
        "text": "都是由衛福部來主導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/10.wav",
        "text": "甚至在104年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/11.wav",
        "text": "我們推動醫護比跟健保支付連動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/12.wav",
        "text": "實施的結果也是在醫護比方面有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/13.wav",
        "text": "因為健保點值在講的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/14.wav",
        "text": "都說應該要針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/15.wav",
        "text": "實際上看這個表格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/16.wav",
        "text": "可以知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/17.wav",
        "text": "都是因為基本工資調整的時候連動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/18.wav",
        "text": "否則看到護理師這樣的一個薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/19.wav",
        "text": "跟我們醫療保健業的平均薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/20.wav",
        "text": "所以這樣數據顯示我們基本工資調的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/21.wav",
        "text": "的確醫護人員有調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/22.wav",
        "text": "透過健保支付去鼓勵我們薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/23.wav",
        "text": "的效果有限對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/24.wav",
        "text": "感謝委員提出這麼重要的一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/25.wav",
        "text": "我們希望所有的挹注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/26.wav",
        "text": "真的能夠挹注到護理同仁的薪資上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/27.wav",
        "text": "有關這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/28.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以請照護司簡要回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/29.wav",
        "text": "我們大概從幾個方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/30.wav",
        "text": "因為主要醫院還是直接的雇主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/31.wav",
        "text": "所以我們現在三班護病比夜班獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/32.wav",
        "text": "的目的是讓專責夜班的人力可以固定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/33.wav",
        "text": "可是看起來沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/34.wav",
        "text": "醫院收入跟支付是兩個不相關的程序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/35.wav",
        "text": "所以政府要幫我們的護理人員加薪但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/36.wav",
        "text": "錢如果沒有指定用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/37.wav",
        "text": "或者是規定代收代付的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/38.wav",
        "text": "根本沒有辦法保證我們醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/39.wav",
        "text": "加薪所以想問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/40.wav",
        "text": "這樣的原因像是夜班獎勵金繁重加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/41.wav",
        "text": "未來應該還是會持續推動這個政策對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/42.wav",
        "text": "夜班獎勵是直接給護理人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/43.wav",
        "text": "這些政策你會持續推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/44.wav",
        "text": "我想我們已經擬定了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/45.wav",
        "text": "在今年的3月1號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/46.wav",
        "text": "有擬行政院通過3個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/47.wav",
        "text": "12大目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/48.wav",
        "text": "我想這12個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/49.wav",
        "text": "我們目前非常積極在啟動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/50.wav",
        "text": "部長本席多次依據社工"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/51.wav",
        "text": "跟長照人員加薪的經驗提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/52.wav",
        "text": "從政府要支付給醫院的錢裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/53.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以畫出一定的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/54.wav",
        "text": "特定用來支付醫事人員的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/55.wav",
        "text": "這個做法你同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/56.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該朝這個方向來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/57.wav",
        "text": "好像現行醫院的自費項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/58.wav",
        "text": "幾乎是不被管理的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/59.wav",
        "text": "心律不整開刀健保給付19萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/60.wav",
        "text": "自費21"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/61.wav",
        "text": "萬攝護腺肥大開刀健保給付9萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/62.wav",
        "text": "自費16萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/63.wav",
        "text": "白內障開刀健保給付3萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/64.wav",
        "text": "可是自費是一塊很大的收益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/65.wav",
        "text": "全數的利益歸法人所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/66.wav",
        "text": "應該是呈現在我們的薪資上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/67.wav",
        "text": "跟所有的醫事人員共享"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/68.wav",
        "text": "所以想問一下本席要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/69.wav",
        "text": "衛福部推動自費收入列入管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/70.wav",
        "text": "設定點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/71.wav",
        "text": "所以可不可以帶回去研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/72.wav",
        "text": "然後1個月內提出研議的結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/73.wav",
        "text": "你同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/74.wav",
        "text": "好我們帶回去研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/75.wav",
        "text": "1個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/76.wav",
        "text": "否則每次講到點值都在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/77.wav",
        "text": "薪水偏低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/78.wav",
        "text": "可是都沒有針對醫院這些勞苦功高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/79.wav",
        "text": "可能你要去做考慮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/80.wav",
        "text": "本席知道目前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/81.wav",
        "text": "新(癌)藥基金已經有預擬的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/82.wav",
        "text": "所以想來問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/83.wav",
        "text": "財務衝擊評估不確定的藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/84.wav",
        "text": "如果其中兩三項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/85.wav",
        "text": "財務衝擊評估不確定的品項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/86.wav",
        "text": "超出了預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/87.wav",
        "text": "超出的費用由藥商分攤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/88.wav",
        "text": "這個制度設計的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/89.wav",
        "text": "HTA背黑鍋嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/90.wav",
        "text": "而且投資風險這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/91.wav",
        "text": "部長你們覺得新藥代理商還會願意進口嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/92.wav",
        "text": "因為你這邊寫了一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/93.wav",
        "text": "計畫財務衝擊評估不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/94.wav",
        "text": "因為我們採用像英國的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/95.wav",
        "text": "是讓更多廠商願意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/96.wav",
        "text": "把好的藥拿來給臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/97.wav",
        "text": "到底什麼叫財務衝擊評估不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/98.wav",
        "text": "請回去研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/99.wav",
        "text": "下次可以提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/100.wav",
        "text": "給我這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/101.wav",
        "text": "原來在健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/102.wav",
        "text": "關於這個不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/103.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請石署長釐清一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/104.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/105.wav",
        "text": "這個不確定有兩種情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/106.wav",
        "text": "一種情形就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/107.wav",
        "text": "（醫療科技評估報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/108.wav",
        "text": "）跟廠商所提的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/109.wav",
        "text": "中間落差很大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/110.wav",
        "text": "這就是所謂的不確定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/111.wav",
        "text": "等於是各說各話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/112.wav",
        "text": "這個時候我們就會把它列入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/113.wav",
        "text": "暫時性支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/114.wav",
        "text": "而沒有辦法直接進入到健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/115.wav",
        "text": "這是一種情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/116.wav",
        "text": "第二個我們評估起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/117.wav",
        "text": "如果按照它的價值來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/118.wav",
        "text": "也就是ICER值非常的高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/119.wav",
        "text": "以英國的ICER值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/120.wav",
        "text": "大概定在3萬英鎊以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/121.wav",
        "text": "就會讓它進入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/122.wav",
        "text": "超過這個標準就會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/123.wav",
        "text": "所以大概是用這兩個條件來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/124.wav",
        "text": "好原來在健保財務裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/125.wav",
        "text": "暫時性支付的費用大概20億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/126.wav",
        "text": "新藥大概40億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/127.wav",
        "text": "現今要把暫時性支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/128.wav",
        "text": "連帶把新藥跟新適應症的藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/129.wav",
        "text": "一起拉出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/130.wav",
        "text": "並增加40億的經費擴充到100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/131.wav",
        "text": "實際上用於癌症用藥的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/132.wav",
        "text": "費用大概是20億到60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/133.wav",
        "text": "如果要達到總統說的降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/134.wav",
        "text": "癌症死亡率三分之一的願景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/135.wav",
        "text": "會不會打折"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/136.wav",
        "text": "因為我們依照實際上的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/137.wav",
        "text": "從二十幾億也許我們努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/138.wav",
        "text": "增加整個量能到60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/139.wav",
        "text": "我想3年應該就可以達到百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/140.wav",
        "text": "為了強化我們藥品供應鏈的韌性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/141.wav",
        "text": "應該還是要扶持我們國產製藥的思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/142.wav",
        "text": "原因在於臺灣本來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/143.wav",
        "text": "就比較受地緣政治的影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/144.wav",
        "text": "那學名藥跟國產藥的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/145.wav",
        "text": "平均又只有進口藥的三分之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/146.wav",
        "text": "而且還可以增加品項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/147.wav",
        "text": "及支付標準修正案的討論當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/148.wav",
        "text": "一直有免除國產新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/149.wav",
        "text": "廠商跟健保署簽訂MEA的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/150.wav",
        "text": "應該要延續這個思維"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/151.wav",
        "text": "你同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/152.wav",
        "text": "同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/153.wav",
        "text": "儘量延長我們國內代理商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/154.wav",
        "text": "蒐集臨床資料進行HTR的評估期限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/155.wav",
        "text": "讓廠商降低進口的風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/156.wav",
        "text": "提高代理意願"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/157.wav",
        "text": "部長同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/158.wav",
        "text": "原因在於國健署跟藥商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/159.wav",
        "text": "彼此費用談不攏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/160.wav",
        "text": "所以在有限的財源上要不要減少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/161.wav",
        "text": "每年預計支付藥物的品項數量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/162.wav",
        "text": "要不就是增加財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/163.wav",
        "text": "這件事很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/164.wav",
        "text": "早一天納入健保病友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/165.wav",
        "text": "就早一天得到存活的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/166.wav",
        "text": "本席想問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/167.wav",
        "text": "健保重大傷病免除部分負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/168.wav",
        "text": "有沒有跟病友徵詢過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/169.wav",
        "text": "是不是願意支付部分負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/170.wav",
        "text": "用於減輕全額自費的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/171.wav",
        "text": "同時讓更多品項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/172.wav",
        "text": "有機會納入健保支付的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/173.wav",
        "text": "這有跟病友徵詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/174.wav",
        "text": "這個很有意義很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/175.wav",
        "text": "護理人員的薪資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/176.wav",
        "text": "政府主導專款專用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/177.wav",
        "text": "還有新(癌)藥基金規劃加速進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154401/178.wav",
        "text": "來落實我們總統的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/0.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員各位官員早安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/1.wav",
        "text": "我想請邱部長謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/2.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/3.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/4.wav",
        "text": "你知道醫生週末就是參加醫學會嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/5.wav",
        "text": "所以許許多多的外科醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/6.wav",
        "text": "跟我反映這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/7.wav",
        "text": "結果才不到1個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/8.wav",
        "text": "就發生了輸液事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/9.wav",
        "text": "而且這個輸液事件看起來短期內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/10.wav",
        "text": "無法結束"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/11.wav",
        "text": "我也很遺憾有跟食藥署討論過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/12.wav",
        "text": "7月8月9月10月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/13.wav",
        "text": "到10月我們還沒有辦法確認"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/14.wav",
        "text": "這個廠家有沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/15.wav",
        "text": "改善它的流程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/16.wav",
        "text": "因為它總共有63項的違規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/17.wav",
        "text": "現在很確定的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/18.wav",
        "text": "500cc以兩到三倍的價格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/19.wav",
        "text": "另外一個很確定的事情是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/20.wav",
        "text": "生理食鹽水\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/21.wav",
        "text": "這個週末我遇到我的同業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/22.wav",
        "text": "他現在如果要排子宮鏡手術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/23.wav",
        "text": "他都先取消了沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/24.wav",
        "text": "我也在這邊示範給其他委員看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/25.wav",
        "text": "邱鎮軍委員看其他官員看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/26.wav",
        "text": "你們很久沒有接觸醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/27.wav",
        "text": "你們可能有點忘記了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/28.wav",
        "text": "這個是500cc的生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/29.wav",
        "text": "就這麼一小包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/30.wav",
        "text": "我們現在只有這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/31.wav",
        "text": "不管是進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/32.wav",
        "text": "或者是臺灣其他廠商做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/33.wav",
        "text": "開比較複雜的手術"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/34.wav",
        "text": "他就這樣子換了三十"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/35.wav",
        "text": "三十幾包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/36.wav",
        "text": "不知道部長有沒有回憶起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/37.wav",
        "text": "通常我們做手術的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/38.wav",
        "text": "要把生理食鹽水夾進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/39.wav",
        "text": "它才會滴注到病人的體內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/40.wav",
        "text": "所以這個加壓器打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/41.wav",
        "text": "再把它關起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/42.wav",
        "text": "就要好幾秒的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/43.wav",
        "text": "再來要把外面的包裝拆開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/44.wav",
        "text": "外面輸液的頭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/45.wav",
        "text": "因為這樣子浪費了多少護理人員時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/46.wav",
        "text": "麻醉科醫生的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/47.wav",
        "text": "還有手術醫生的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/48.wav",
        "text": "因為光是在換輸液\n"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/49.wav",
        "text": "這件事情至少要4個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/50.wav",
        "text": "而且還不知道10月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/51.wav",
        "text": "永豐有沒有辦法恢復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/52.wav",
        "text": "2公升3公升1公升這樣的規格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/53.wav",
        "text": "你還不知道喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/54.wav",
        "text": "所以現在有的機構是把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/55.wav",
        "text": "需要大規格輸液的手術暫停"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/56.wav",
        "text": "有一些就是這樣換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/57.wav",
        "text": "護理師跟他的老闆說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/58.wav",
        "text": "老闆如果你要我站在加壓器旁邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/59.wav",
        "text": "一路換30包"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/60.wav",
        "text": "那我的手已經斷掉了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/61.wav",
        "text": "我等一下什麼事都不用做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/62.wav",
        "text": "他們平常在手術中要做手術紀錄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/63.wav",
        "text": "他要聯絡下一台"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/64.wav",
        "text": "他要記錄生命徵象等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/65.wav",
        "text": "光是在那邊換輸液就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/66.wav",
        "text": "這也不是最大的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/67.wav",
        "text": "最大的重點是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/68.wav",
        "text": "這是一個國安危機啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/69.wav",
        "text": "如果今天有很重大的公安意外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/70.wav",
        "text": "或是天災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/71.wav",
        "text": "目前大家也很擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/72.wav",
        "text": "我們的戰略位置很危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/73.wav",
        "text": "我們沒有辦法做出自己的生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/74.wav",
        "text": "請問有三十幾家有藥證願意復工的廠商部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/75.wav",
        "text": "您現在知道有哪些了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/76.wav",
        "text": "有幾家願意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/77.wav",
        "text": "你們有給他誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/78.wav",
        "text": "有去輔導他們嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/79.wav",
        "text": "我想輔導還有提供誘因是一直在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/80.wav",
        "text": "的我也非常感謝委員提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/81.wav",
        "text": "醫療現場的一些非常重要的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/82.wav",
        "text": "因為我也是臨床醫師我很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/83.wav",
        "text": "有些手術真的會造成這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/84.wav",
        "text": "在維護我們醫療品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/85.wav",
        "text": "人民健康之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/86.wav",
        "text": "當然有它一定的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/87.wav",
        "text": "在這規定當中有些配套措施需要再加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/88.wav",
        "text": "這個我們一定都會去彌補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/89.wav",
        "text": "也希望醫療院所能夠先體諒有這樣的一個情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/90.wav",
        "text": "我知道在管理上面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/91.wav",
        "text": "像臺大藥劑部主任也一直在跟我反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/92.wav",
        "text": "在管理上因為我們要分好幾個廠商等等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/93.wav",
        "text": "也拜託大家配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/94.wav",
        "text": "至於1公升的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/95.wav",
        "text": "部分我想我們7月底就會來提供"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/96.wav",
        "text": "1公升是專案輸入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/97.wav",
        "text": "2公升的應該還是要輔導永豐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/98.wav",
        "text": "好這個部分我大概上個禮拜一就索資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/99.wav",
        "text": "但至今沒有任何的回復"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/100.wav",
        "text": "我們也很想知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/101.wav",
        "text": "近五年來衛福部有沒有掌握這些廠商違規的事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/102.wav",
        "text": "還有他們的生理食鹽水市場占有率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/103.wav",
        "text": "很明顯的為什麼我們今天會出現生理食鹽水大缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/104.wav",
        "text": "就是因為一家廠商獨占了七八成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/105.wav",
        "text": "然後沒有人要做本來有三十幾家的人要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/106.wav",
        "text": "最後只有一個人願意做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/107.wav",
        "text": "你們去年11月就發現它違規"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/108.wav",
        "text": "那個時候你們沒有想到它有可能最後會做不出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/109.wav",
        "text": "導致現在這樣子的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/110.wav",
        "text": "\n其實也非常多人關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/111.wav",
        "text": "不管是輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/112.wav",
        "text": "胃藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/113.wav",
        "text": "胃潰瘍的藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/114.wav",
        "text": "止痛藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/115.wav",
        "text": "退燒藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/116.wav",
        "text": "這些都是我們國家如果發生重大公安事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/117.wav",
        "text": "或是天災"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/118.wav",
        "text": "或是戰爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/119.wav",
        "text": "時有可能一下就全部短缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/120.wav",
        "text": "我也很希望跟你們索資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/121.wav",
        "text": "你們可不可以統計出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/122.wav",
        "text": "或是輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/123.wav",
        "text": "或是藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/124.wav",
        "text": "如果有什麼東西因為你們的健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/125.wav",
        "text": "導致本來幾十家在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/126.wav",
        "text": "現在只剩一兩家還占了七八成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/127.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼知道今年是生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/128.wav",
        "text": "後年又是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/129.wav",
        "text": "可見你們沒有去做風險管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/130.wav",
        "text": "你們也沒有列出一個表"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/131.wav",
        "text": "我們現在到底有哪些很緊急的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/132.wav",
        "text": "重大醫材藥品或是輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/133.wav",
        "text": "其實只剩一兩家在做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/134.wav",
        "text": "你們也不知道嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/135.wav",
        "text": "你們知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/136.wav",
        "text": "衛福部就會公告重要藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/137.wav",
        "text": "批採的清單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/138.wav",
        "text": "如果有任何問題就趕快解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/139.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣都還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/140.wav",
        "text": "發生我非常同意委員所提的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/141.wav",
        "text": "雞蛋也不要放在一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/142.wav",
        "text": "對可是你們知道比例嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/143.wav",
        "text": "你們當然知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/144.wav",
        "text": "你們有提供給國防部或是退輔會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/145.wav",
        "text": "一些重大的清單"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/146.wav",
        "text": "在面臨緊急狀況下最需要哪些東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/147.wav",
        "text": "但是你們知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/148.wav",
        "text": "他們現在廠商分布的比例嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/149.wav",
        "text": "你是說現在的藥品還是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/150.wav",
        "text": "就是臨床上不可或缺的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/151.wav",
        "text": "你現在只知道永豐占了八成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/152.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼知道其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/153.wav",
        "text": "會不會不管是輸液或是其他的藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/154.wav",
        "text": "有沒有是一兩家廠商獨占的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/155.wav",
        "text": "有關於重要的藥品跟醫材"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/156.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼樣來管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/157.wav",
        "text": "另外因為你們現在有專案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/158.wav",
        "text": "輸入所以你們找了七家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/159.wav",
        "text": "其中有一家叫做橫山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/160.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/161.wav",
        "text": "這個橫山以前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/162.wav",
        "text": "就被列在你們的網站上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/163.wav",
        "text": "是嚴重違反GDP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/164.wav",
        "text": "的業者即111年它列在你們網站上說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/165.wav",
        "text": "是嚴重影響GDP的名單之一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/166.wav",
        "text": "臺中國軍總醫院在109年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/167.wav",
        "text": "也有公布它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/168.wav",
        "text": "有部分爭議事件待解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/169.wav",
        "text": "所以也暫緩簽約"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/170.wav",
        "text": "我也滿想知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/171.wav",
        "text": "你們是怎麼決定是由這七家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/172.wav",
        "text": "來進口高於現在兩三倍價格的輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/173.wav",
        "text": "還有這家橫山"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/174.wav",
        "text": "為什麼會被你們列進去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/175.wav",
        "text": "尤其是你們在網站還曾經公開說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/176.wav",
        "text": "它嚴重違反GDP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/177.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/178.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我請食藥署簡要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/179.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/180.wav",
        "text": "過去如果曾經被我們列為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/181.wav",
        "text": "有嚴重違反GDP的業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/182.wav",
        "text": "我們都會要求它提出矯正措施的改善報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/183.wav",
        "text": "如果這個業者已經提出改善報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/184.wav",
        "text": "而且經過我們確認沒有問題的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/185.wav",
        "text": "等於它的違規已經矯正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/186.wav",
        "text": "就是可以繼續執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/187.wav",
        "text": "另外剛剛委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/188.wav",
        "text": "有兩家專案輸入業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/189.wav",
        "text": "目前還沒確認的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/190.wav",
        "text": "因為我們目前在公開徵求的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/191.wav",
        "text": "第一個都會要求它的GMP要符合PIC/S GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/192.wav",
        "text": "就跟我國的GMP要求是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/193.wav",
        "text": "第二個是在當地的國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/194.wav",
        "text": "要有上市的許可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/195.wav",
        "text": "檢驗規格要符合要點的規範"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/196.wav",
        "text": "在這些條件都符合之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/197.wav",
        "text": "我們才會允許它專案輸入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/198.wav",
        "text": "至於剛剛委員提到有兩家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/199.wav",
        "text": "但是目前還在洽談之中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/200.wav",
        "text": "就是正在確認它的生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/201.wav",
        "text": "可以提供的1公升有多少量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/202.wav",
        "text": "這個部分確認之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/203.wav",
        "text": "我們就會核發專案輸入函"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/204.wav",
        "text": "它就會繼續跟健保這邊去洽商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/205.wav",
        "text": "但是你們現在有找到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/206.wav",
        "text": "比較大容量的願意進口的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/207.wav",
        "text": "你們有找到比較大容量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/208.wav",
        "text": "且願意製作的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/209.wav",
        "text": "還是維持只有1公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/210.wav",
        "text": "公升的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/211.wav",
        "text": "目前國外有業者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/212.wav",
        "text": "幫臺灣製造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/213.wav",
        "text": "這部分我們正在協調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/214.wav",
        "text": "看它一個月可以增加的量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/215.wav",
        "text": "國內的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/216.wav",
        "text": "目前1公升的量相當的少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/217.wav",
        "text": "因為能夠生產的廠商只有一家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/218.wav",
        "text": "原來的客戶之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/219.wav",
        "text": "它也已經有幫忙協助增產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/220.wav",
        "text": "所以部長有沒有什麼想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/221.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣讓大於一家的廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/222.wav",
        "text": "我們會往這方面來研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/223.wav",
        "text": "對於國安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/224.wav",
        "text": "像這次我們在找的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/225.wav",
        "text": "我有問過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/226.wav",
        "text": "負責的林靜儀次長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/227.wav",
        "text": "在管理上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/228.wav",
        "text": "要登記也不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/229.wav",
        "text": "但是他說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/230.wav",
        "text": "也比較安全"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/231.wav",
        "text": "而且將來比較"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/232.wav",
        "text": "部長這可能都不是重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/233.wav",
        "text": "重點是我們國家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/234.wav",
        "text": "還是要有大於一家廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/235.wav",
        "text": "做不同規格的輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/236.wav",
        "text": "而不是你現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/237.wav",
        "text": "花了多少錢進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/238.wav",
        "text": "進口了多少家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/239.wav",
        "text": "有幾家願意進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/240.wav",
        "text": "這個不是重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/241.wav",
        "text": "還是要討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/242.wav",
        "text": "要用什麼方法才能讓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/243.wav",
        "text": "每一種東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/244.wav",
        "text": "可以有大於一家來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/245.wav",
        "text": "讓它市占率不要到達七八成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/246.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/247.wav",
        "text": "要幫基層醫療請命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/248.wav",
        "text": "2022年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/249.wav",
        "text": "疾管署曾經編列"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/250.wav",
        "text": "845億的後疫情防治經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/251.wav",
        "text": "當時您是立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/252.wav",
        "text": "所以您也有被拜訪過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/253.wav",
        "text": "但是您應該也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/254.wav",
        "text": "2023年3月防疫指揮中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/255.wav",
        "text": "在沒有做社會溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/256.wav",
        "text": "也沒有做醫界溝通之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/257.wav",
        "text": "突然公告COVID-19門診相關費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/258.wav",
        "text": "改由健保來給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/259.wav",
        "text": "因為2023年的健保總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/260.wav",
        "text": "是在2022年就協商完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/261.wav",
        "text": "但你2023年3月才說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/262.wav",
        "text": "又要把COVID的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/263.wav",
        "text": "納入健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/264.wav",
        "text": "這個很不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/265.wav",
        "text": "為什麼最近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/266.wav",
        "text": "我們一定要解決這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/267.wav",
        "text": "因為你也看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/268.wav",
        "text": "從上個月開始確診達到10萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/269.wav",
        "text": "死亡人數不斷地升高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/270.wav",
        "text": "所以基層醫療算一算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/271.wav",
        "text": "再加上攤扣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/272.wav",
        "text": "今年第一季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/273.wav",
        "text": "低於0.8的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/274.wav",
        "text": "第二季可能會更低"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/275.wav",
        "text": "因為現在確診數一直上升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/276.wav",
        "text": "所以2023年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/277.wav",
        "text": "我們有挹注240億元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/278.wav",
        "text": "當然這個金額跟2022年不能比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/279.wav",
        "text": "可是現在並沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/280.wav",
        "text": "疫情有減緩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/281.wav",
        "text": "同時你規劃2024年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/282.wav",
        "text": "要挹注200億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/283.wav",
        "text": "請問這200億什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/284.wav",
        "text": "才會撥補下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/285.wav",
        "text": "我想這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/286.wav",
        "text": "我應該算很清楚的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/287.wav",
        "text": "過去一年來非常努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/288.wav",
        "text": "去年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/289.wav",
        "text": "第2季開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/290.wav",
        "text": "也就是3月26號宣布以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/291.wav",
        "text": "的確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/292.wav",
        "text": "那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/293.wav",
        "text": "點值整個都下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/294.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也做了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/295.wav",
        "text": "各方面的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/296.wav",
        "text": "去年總共補了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/297.wav",
        "text": "這個部分說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/298.wav",
        "text": "醫院方面大概也占了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/299.wav",
        "text": "應該有七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/300.wav",
        "text": "其他區域基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/301.wav",
        "text": "大概也有一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/302.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/303.wav",
        "text": "今年看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/304.wav",
        "text": "第1季也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/305.wav",
        "text": "跟去年一樣是相當的低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/306.wav",
        "text": "所以這個問題我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/307.wav",
        "text": "會再出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/308.wav",
        "text": "上週五我們厚生會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/309.wav",
        "text": "有舉辦了一個後疫情時代"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/310.wav",
        "text": "應該要如何因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/311.wav",
        "text": "的公聽會而且衛福部今年10月11月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/312.wav",
        "text": "也要開始施打新變種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/313.wav",
        "text": "的COVID疫苗表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/314.wav",
        "text": "全世界都知道這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/315.wav",
        "text": "並沒有終止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/316.wav",
        "text": "所以你們後疫情的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/317.wav",
        "text": "這些編列也不應該"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/318.wav",
        "text": "終止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/319.wav",
        "text": "你們不能認為好像COVID快結束了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/320.wav",
        "text": "所以我們再把它納回到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/321.wav",
        "text": "因為這些人有long COVID"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/322.wav",
        "text": "也有一些後遺症需要處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/323.wav",
        "text": "所以其實很確定的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/324.wav",
        "text": "他們就是會占我們未來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/325.wav",
        "text": "醫療很大一塊這跟你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/326.wav",
        "text": "一直提到的這些新藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/327.wav",
        "text": "一樣的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/328.wav",
        "text": "如果是因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/329.wav",
        "text": "一個嚴重疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/330.wav",
        "text": "所產生的一個醫療負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/331.wav",
        "text": "我覺得不能全部由"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/332.wav",
        "text": "醫療院所來承擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/333.wav",
        "text": "這樣點值會太低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/334.wav",
        "text": "所以可能要爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/335.wav",
        "text": "最後只是跟部長稍微"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/336.wav",
        "text": "提醒因為我總質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/337.wav",
        "text": "今年2月衛福部承諾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/338.wav",
        "text": "白班護理津貼會撥下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/339.wav",
        "text": "要到明年我覺得這對於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/340.wav",
        "text": "護理師也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/341.wav",
        "text": "個打擊士氣的打擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/342.wav",
        "text": "所以如果可以加快的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/343.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望大家可以儘快地加快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/344.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/345.wav",
        "text": "好我們一定全力來爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/346.wav",
        "text": "由各個角度各個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/347.wav",
        "text": "項目來爭取"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/348.wav",
        "text": "以及工作環境的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/349.wav",
        "text": "這是我們每天都在努力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/350.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154402/351.wav",
        "text": "謝謝陳菁徽委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/0.wav",
        "text": "也一直強調這些委員會的任務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/1.wav",
        "text": "必須以國家整體的角度來推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/2.wav",
        "text": "所以會設在總統府"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/3.wav",
        "text": "其中有一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/4.wav",
        "text": "就和衛福部的業務相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/5.wav",
        "text": "我想請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/6.wav",
        "text": "未來您是聽這個委員會的指揮嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/7.wav",
        "text": "他也長期關心醫療發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/8.wav",
        "text": "所以他擔任總統以後很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/9.wav",
        "text": "所以這個委員會凌駕在行政院之上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/10.wav",
        "text": "不會因為我們的政策絕對經過完全的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/11.wav",
        "text": "不管是總統府行政院以及衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/12.wav",
        "text": "我我想請問一下這個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/13.wav",
        "text": "包含全民健保智慧醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/14.wav",
        "text": "還有癌症新藥及防治"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/15.wav",
        "text": "我看部長今天的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/16.wav",
        "text": "跟這個範圍是差不多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/17.wav",
        "text": "在施政的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/18.wav",
        "text": "在推展業務的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/19.wav",
        "text": "會不會受到影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/20.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣100多個醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/21.wav",
        "text": "你現在的意思是說衛福部就是聽命於這些委員會的指揮了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/22.wav",
        "text": "是這樣嗎他們說什麼就是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/23.wav",
        "text": "大家都提供專業的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/24.wav",
        "text": "那要行政院幹什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/25.wav",
        "text": "行政院當然就是要幫忙籌備預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/26.wav",
        "text": "我希望你還是要堅持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/27.wav",
        "text": "而您是最高的執行者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/28.wav",
        "text": "當然可以跟你們直接溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/29.wav",
        "text": "但他成立這個委員會怎麼讓我感覺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/30.wav",
        "text": "應該不至於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/31.wav",
        "text": "因為在籌備的過程當中我有完全參與"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/32.wav",
        "text": "這個委員會業務涉及全民健保預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/33.wav",
        "text": "醫療體系跟生技醫藥產業的發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/34.wav",
        "text": "不僅涉及龐大預算也跟產業發展有重大關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/35.wav",
        "text": "這些都不需要被監督嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/36.wav",
        "text": "都不用有法源依據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/37.wav",
        "text": "我想這個委員會大概比較屬於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/38.wav",
        "text": "然後行政院當然就是落實到國家希望的工程來整體運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/39.wav",
        "text": "而我們衛福部就是落實與健康臺灣相關的議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/40.wav",
        "text": "應該會相當順暢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/41.wav",
        "text": "也請委員放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/42.wav",
        "text": "衛福部絕對會站在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/43.wav",
        "text": "我很懷疑賴總統的動機"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/44.wav",
        "text": "他是不是要把行政院架空"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/45.wav",
        "text": "還是想要廢掉衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/46.wav",
        "text": "所以部長要小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/47.wav",
        "text": "請委員放心應該不會有這種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/48.wav",
        "text": "本席之前就說過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/49.wav",
        "text": "一直強調醫療平權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/50.wav",
        "text": "但在臺灣新藥科技已經變成一種階級門檻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/51.wav",
        "text": "有錢的才有活命的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/52.wav",
        "text": "臺灣平均4分19秒就有一人得到癌症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/53.wav",
        "text": "去年平均9分53秒就有一人死於癌症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/54.wav",
        "text": "癌症死亡比前年快轉了14秒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/55.wav",
        "text": "為此設置百億癌症基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/56.wav",
        "text": "並在合理可被監督檢視的情況下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/57.wav",
        "text": "我相信大家都會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/58.wav",
        "text": "我們國民黨幾位立委"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/59.wav",
        "text": "也提到要修癌症防治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/60.wav",
        "text": "你們的報告也說要修癌症防治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/61.wav",
        "text": "請問部長什麼時候會提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/62.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/63.wav",
        "text": "我們真的感覺連一天都不能等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/64.wav",
        "text": "了所以能夠越快上路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/65.wav",
        "text": "越快來幫助這些癌症病人越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/66.wav",
        "text": "到底什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/67.wav",
        "text": "部長你只要講什麼時候就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/68.wav",
        "text": "來做百億基金的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/69.wav",
        "text": "至於修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/70.wav",
        "text": "你講到公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/71.wav",
        "text": "當一個法提出來時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/72.wav",
        "text": "尤其癌症法是一個大法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/73.wav",
        "text": "裡面至少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/74.wav",
        "text": "以我知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/75.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望部裡面儘快提出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/76.wav",
        "text": "不要只有在野黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/77.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛提到百億基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/78.wav",
        "text": "要用公務預算支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/79.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/80.wav",
        "text": "沒有關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/81.wav",
        "text": "而且應該可以減輕健保總額的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/82.wav",
        "text": "我想問一下這些專款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/83.wav",
        "text": "到時候是要編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/84.wav",
        "text": "還是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/85.wav",
        "text": "當然是公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/86.wav",
        "text": "新的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/87.wav",
        "text": "新的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/88.wav",
        "text": "這些部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/89.wav",
        "text": "哪些新藥可以用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/90.wav",
        "text": "哪些患者符合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/91.wav",
        "text": "癌症新藥專款作業的要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/92.wav",
        "text": "你們什麼時候會訂定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/93.wav",
        "text": "這部分我想請健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/94.wav",
        "text": "具體簡短回答一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/95.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/96.wav",
        "text": "目前規劃的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/97.wav",
        "text": "跟財務衝擊比較不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/98.wav",
        "text": "三期臨床試驗的癌症新藥為目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/99.wav",
        "text": "病人有這樣的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/100.wav",
        "text": "我們會訂出作業要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/101.wav",
        "text": "在年底前就會發"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/102.wav",
        "text": "這關係到我們國人的健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/103.wav",
        "text": "也關乎大家的利益"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/104.wav",
        "text": "除了加速癌症新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/105.wav",
        "text": "外還有新科技納入健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/106.wav",
        "text": "這個問題也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/107.wav",
        "text": "你要走哪個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/108.wav",
        "text": "呢要納入健保嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/109.wav",
        "text": "這個已經有多年的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/110.wav",
        "text": "我們怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/111.wav",
        "text": "在不影響健保的總額之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/112.wav",
        "text": "什麼叫不影響健保總額"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/113.wav",
        "text": "一下子會對健保總額產生衝擊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/114.wav",
        "text": "我知道大家可能還沒準備好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/115.wav",
        "text": "沒關係我還是那句話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/116.wav",
        "text": "─儘快好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/117.wav",
        "text": "又讓大家聽了一頭霧水好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/118.wav",
        "text": "部長與吳前署長的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/119.wav",
        "text": "存在矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/120.wav",
        "text": "是因為對政策方向和內部管理的不滿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/121.wav",
        "text": "並與輸液事件"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/122.wav",
        "text": "發生派系鬥爭有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/123.wav",
        "text": "部長是不是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/124.wav",
        "text": "衛福部過去多年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/125.wav",
        "text": "因應了多少醫療跟防疫的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/126.wav",
        "text": "也成為國際的驕傲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/127.wav",
        "text": "我想衛福部的團結"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/128.wav",
        "text": "也沒有任何派系之爭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/129.wav",
        "text": "我知道你會這樣回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/130.wav",
        "text": "我再問你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/131.wav",
        "text": "新的莊署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/132.wav",
        "text": "所以我想請問部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/133.wav",
        "text": "只有來半年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/134.wav",
        "text": "未來會不會再尋找新的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/135.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/136.wav",
        "text": "相當繁重也非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/137.wav",
        "text": "其實這幾個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/138.wav",
        "text": "也徵詢了也徵詢很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/139.wav",
        "text": "藥學院的院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/140.wav",
        "text": "幾乎都被徵詢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/141.wav",
        "text": "大部分都拒絕"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/142.wav",
        "text": "我還是要建議部長的就是如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/143.wav",
        "text": "我不是說他能力不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/144.wav",
        "text": "我只是擔心他時間不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/145.wav",
        "text": "請委員放心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/146.wav",
        "text": "以他的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/147.wav",
        "text": "我們是一個AI的團隊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/148.wav",
        "text": "一天可以當三天來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/149.wav",
        "text": "我相信一定可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/150.wav",
        "text": "給我們很多的貢獻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/151.wav",
        "text": "我們苗栗縣基層的醫師嚴重不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/152.wav",
        "text": "本席對於優化偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/153.wav",
        "text": "醫療精進計畫非常期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/154.wav",
        "text": "可是苗栗還是有許多衛生所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/155.wav",
        "text": "啦我看到第二期幾乎都著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/156.wav",
        "text": "花了二十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/157.wav",
        "text": "都是用在培訓外國學歷的牙醫學員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/158.wav",
        "text": "我要講的就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/159.wav",
        "text": "他是哪一邊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/160.wav",
        "text": "無論這個牙醫是不是國外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/161.wav",
        "text": "我們要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/162.wav",
        "text": "尤其是偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/163.wav",
        "text": "我們要的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/164.wav",
        "text": "有一個醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/165.wav",
        "text": "來解決他們的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/166.wav",
        "text": "部長怎麼看這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/167.wav",
        "text": "不只是西醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/168.wav",
        "text": "啦牙醫也是非常缺乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/169.wav",
        "text": "很多的鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/170.wav",
        "text": "都還是幾十年的那個老牙醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/171.wav",
        "text": "啦所以我想衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/172.wav",
        "text": "在過去能夠注重到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/173.wav",
        "text": "偏鄉有多少牙醫不足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/174.wav",
        "text": "部長知道嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/175.wav",
        "text": "全國尚有157個牙醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/176.wav",
        "text": "醫療資源不足的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/177.wav",
        "text": "地區其中54個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/178.wav",
        "text": "鄉鎮區無牙醫師執"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/179.wav",
        "text": "對啊所以我請部長儘快幫忙好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/180.wav",
        "text": "一定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/181.wav",
        "text": "希望能在越短的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/182.wav",
        "text": "來把它完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/183.wav",
        "text": "當然我想我們要幫忙的計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/184.wav",
        "text": "的原意都是好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/185.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以再討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/186.wav",
        "text": "因為大家都講很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/187.wav",
        "text": "上任我也期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/188.wav",
        "text": "部長能有一個新的作為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/189.wav",
        "text": "好一定努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154403/190.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我們有請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/1.wav",
        "text": "委員早"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/2.wav",
        "text": "部長早部長本席想請教你從就任到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/3.wav",
        "text": "你覺得你的職權可不可以完全的發揮"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/4.wav",
        "text": "就是作為一個衛福部部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/5.wav",
        "text": "你可不可以很多事情都是自己拍板定案作主"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/6.wav",
        "text": "我覺得到現在所有衛政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/7.wav",
        "text": "醫政相關各方面的執行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/8.wav",
        "text": "都是按照我們原來的規劃跟我們的理想在努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/9.wav",
        "text": "應該好像還沒有碰到窒礙難行的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/10.wav",
        "text": "沒有窒礙難行那我就直接請教你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/11.wav",
        "text": "現在總統府的賴總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/12.wav",
        "text": "要當大總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/13.wav",
        "text": "所以他創設了一個健康臺灣促進委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/14.wav",
        "text": "召集人是陳志鴻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/15.wav",
        "text": "這樣的一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/16.wav",
        "text": "會不會架空了原來衛福部的職掌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/17.wav",
        "text": "作為一個部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/18.wav",
        "text": "您是不是同時又多了很多個老闆"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/19.wav",
        "text": "您除了要跟行政院院長報告之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/20.wav",
        "text": "總統府又多了一個陳志鴻召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/21.wav",
        "text": "還有兩個副召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/22.wav",
        "text": "你會不會覺得你的老闆好多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/23.wav",
        "text": "我沒有這種感覺啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/24.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得應該要做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/25.wav",
        "text": "只要跟行政院或相關的前輩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/26.wav",
        "text": "包括我在臺大的老師陳志鴻教授"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/27.wav",
        "text": "那我問你一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/28.wav",
        "text": "健康臺灣促進委員會所做的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/29.wav",
        "text": "衛福部是不是要照單全收"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/30.wav",
        "text": "你有沒有說不的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/31.wav",
        "text": "就是委員會裡面開會所決議的事項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/32.wav",
        "text": "衛福部有沒有說不的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/33.wav",
        "text": "部長有沒有說不的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/34.wav",
        "text": "應該是沒有吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/35.wav",
        "text": "因為它是總統府層級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/36.wav",
        "text": "如果跟你的意見不合的時候怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/37.wav",
        "text": "部長跟召集人的意見不合的時候聽誰的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/38.wav",
        "text": "聽部長的還是聽陳志鴻的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/39.wav",
        "text": "我想總統也是一個非常優秀的醫師出身"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/40.wav",
        "text": "陳志鴻老師也是非常有行政經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/41.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們過去幾年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/42.wav",
        "text": "在醫療政策防疫政策上的溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/43.wav",
        "text": "你認為他會尊重你嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/44.wav",
        "text": "我覺得他們都會尊重我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/45.wav",
        "text": "那你在這個委員會扮演什麼角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/46.wav",
        "text": "開會的時候你去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/47.wav",
        "text": "所有執行的幕僚作業都是我們這邊在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/48.wav",
        "text": "那開委員會的時候部長會受邀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/49.wav",
        "text": "你在是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/50.wav",
        "text": "我當然一定在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/51.wav",
        "text": "但你不是召集人也不是副召集人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/52.wav",
        "text": "我必須要準備相關的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/53.wav",
        "text": "我知道你就是幕僚嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/54.wav",
        "text": "所以決策主持人是陳志鴻醫師嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/55.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/56.wav",
        "text": "我想我們過去的合作經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/57.wav",
        "text": "好我希望是溝通無礙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/58.wav",
        "text": "你也擔任過委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/59.wav",
        "text": "啦我們擔任委員我在衛環第三屆了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/60.wav",
        "text": "我從來沒有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/61.wav",
        "text": "在部長之上再架設一個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/62.wav",
        "text": "然後可以來指揮衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/63.wav",
        "text": "過去從來都沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/64.wav",
        "text": "所以坦白講我為你有點抱屈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/65.wav",
        "text": "對於衛福部的部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/66.wav",
        "text": "如果想要做很多事情的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/67.wav",
        "text": "難免會有點掣肘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/68.wav",
        "text": "當理念不一致的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/69.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/70.wav",
        "text": "我真的希望賴總統也要看見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/71.wav",
        "text": "今天我們邀請任何人才來擔任部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/72.wav",
        "text": "就應該要授權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/73.wav",
        "text": "應該給你最大的決策空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/74.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個才是信任你的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/75.wav",
        "text": "啦照道理來講應該是這樣運作會比較恰當"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/76.wav",
        "text": "\n另外一個我要問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/77.wav",
        "text": "有關於吳秀梅前署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/78.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛在詢答的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/79.wav",
        "text": "提到你們其實已經徵詢很久了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/80.wav",
        "text": "所以是不是吳秀梅署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/81.wav",
        "text": "早就應該要下臺了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/82.wav",
        "text": "你們早就在尋覓適當的人選"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/83.wav",
        "text": "要替換掉他了嘛對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/84.wav",
        "text": "也沒有說替換"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/85.wav",
        "text": "因為由誰來擔任我們幫國家找到最適當的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/86.wav",
        "text": "在那個時候做最適當的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/87.wav",
        "text": "我們支持越換越好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/88.wav",
        "text": "但是今天本席很納悶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/89.wav",
        "text": "是7月1號報到吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/90.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/91.wav",
        "text": "那他今天怎麼沒有來委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/92.wav",
        "text": "不好意思他現在在交接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/93.wav",
        "text": "早上11點交接"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/94.wav",
        "text": "好我想對委員會及委員來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/95.wav",
        "text": "會很想會會這一位新的署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/96.wav",
        "text": "對我們很想知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/97.wav",
        "text": "因為食藥署在部裡面是大署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/98.wav",
        "text": "到底有什麼新的想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/99.wav",
        "text": "他是不是會展現比過去吳秀梅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/100.wav",
        "text": "跟解決問題的能力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/101.wav",
        "text": "接下來我們要看的就是輸液的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/102.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/103.wav",
        "text": "問題還沒有完全的解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/104.wav",
        "text": "喔我們可以看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/105.wav",
        "text": "永豐的產能真的是非常的大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/106.wav",
        "text": "過去一個月是196萬袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/107.wav",
        "text": "占了將近八成左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/108.wav",
        "text": "到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/109.wav",
        "text": "你們一方面要求國內增產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/110.wav",
        "text": "但是你們現在告訴本席的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/111.wav",
        "text": "一個月能增產的只有46萬袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/112.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/113.wav",
        "text": "所以量能非常的有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/114.wav",
        "text": "才增加46萬袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/115.wav",
        "text": "然後多數都是要靠進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/116.wav",
        "text": "我要問部長的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/117.wav",
        "text": "這個情況會持續多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/118.wav",
        "text": "就是現在的情況什麼時候會解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/119.wav",
        "text": "我們國內的產能什麼時候可以完全跟上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/120.wav",
        "text": "有跟上的一天嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/121.wav",
        "text": "還是只要永豐沒有恢復產能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/122.wav",
        "text": "事實上就遙遙無期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/123.wav",
        "text": "因為你們還說8月的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/124.wav",
        "text": "也只能到一個月50萬袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/125.wav",
        "text": "還差很遠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/126.wav",
        "text": "耶差得非常遠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/127.wav",
        "text": "我們現在可以供應的數量是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/128.wav",
        "text": "每週49萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/129.wav",
        "text": "袋所以應該現在剛好是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/130.wav",
        "text": "都是進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/131.wav",
        "text": "我們當然也鼓勵我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/132.wav",
        "text": "我是要問你說"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/133.wav",
        "text": "我們國內的產能什麼時候可以追上來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/134.wav",
        "text": "因為過去我們是靠國內自行生產就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/135.wav",
        "text": "你現在等於是將近八成都是靠進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/136.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候國內的產能可以跟上"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/137.wav",
        "text": "還是只要永豐沒有恢復產能"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/138.wav",
        "text": "事實上這是做不到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/139.wav",
        "text": "最高上限大概一個月就是50萬袋"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/140.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有評估過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/141.wav",
        "text": "大家比較在乎的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/142.wav",
        "text": "剛剛陳菁徽委員問到2公升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/143.wav",
        "text": "公升的那個永豐的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/144.wav",
        "text": "我們可以輔導它大概在年底應該就可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/145.wav",
        "text": "它就可以符合你們的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/146.wav",
        "text": "就可以恢復生產就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/147.wav",
        "text": "常這個應該就會很大宗的來改善"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/148.wav",
        "text": "所以年底才有可能改善"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/149.wav",
        "text": "現在的量穩定供應是沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/150.wav",
        "text": "但是國內生產有問題嘛"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/151.wav",
        "text": "國內的生產要到年底"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/152.wav",
        "text": "永豐恢復產能之後才會穩定下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/153.wav",
        "text": "嘛是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/154.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣講嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/155.wav",
        "text": "現在進口跟國內的輔導狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/156.wav",
        "text": "是跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/157.wav",
        "text": "國內目前其實另外有6家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/158.wav",
        "text": "生理食鹽水的藥廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/159.wav",
        "text": "有在協助增加生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/160.wav",
        "text": "因為他們同時還要生產"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/161.wav",
        "text": "所以他們目前能夠協助增加出來的產能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/162.wav",
        "text": "就是如剛剛委員所說的"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/163.wav",
        "text": "大約一個月可以增加45萬袋到50萬袋之間的這個量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/164.wav",
        "text": "這已經是最上限了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/165.wav",
        "text": "是我們希望能持續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/166.wav",
        "text": "跟這些藥廠溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/167.wav",
        "text": "看他們是不是能夠再增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/168.wav",
        "text": "目前有幾家藥廠還在評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/169.wav",
        "text": "或許還可以用再增加人力的方式"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/170.wav",
        "text": "去增加一個生產的班次"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/171.wav",
        "text": "如果是這樣的話"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/172.wav",
        "text": "或許可以到達大概一個月50萬袋"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/173.wav",
        "text": "50萬袋還是很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/174.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/175.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/176.wav",
        "text": "所以最終你們還是要靠永豐在你們輔導改善之後"
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        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/177.wav",
        "text": "讓它恢復產能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/178.wav",
        "text": "國內才可以真的穩定下來"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/179.wav",
        "text": "就是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/180.wav",
        "text": "嘛好我希望不要有下一"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/181.wav",
        "text": "個輸液的問題再出現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/182.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也有委員問到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/183.wav",
        "text": "你雞蛋都放在同一個籃子裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/184.wav",
        "text": "一家廠出問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/185.wav",
        "text": "然後就全部出問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/186.wav",
        "text": "\n最後我要問百億癌藥基金的問題"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/187.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛在報告裡面"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/188.wav",
        "text": "說你要去訂定"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/189.wav",
        "text": "癌症新藥專藥的作業要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/190.wav",
        "text": "因為現在沒有法源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/191.wav",
        "text": "你要有法源才可以做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/192.wav",
        "text": "這個要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/193.wav",
        "text": "作業要點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/194.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候要完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/195.wav",
        "text": "年底"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/196.wav",
        "text": "年底就會完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/197.wav",
        "text": "因為明年就要開始去落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/198.wav",
        "text": "那現在的基金規模"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/199.wav",
        "text": "你一直號稱百億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/200.wav",
        "text": "到底是多少"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/201.wav",
        "text": "明年大概"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/202.wav",
        "text": "因為一下子也不可能進來那麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/203.wav",
        "text": "嘛像今年我們用健保是24億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/204.wav",
        "text": "然後明年我們估算起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/205.wav",
        "text": "大概60億的規模"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/206.wav",
        "text": "公務預算會補到60億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/207.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就沒有"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/208.wav",
        "text": "明年才60億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/209.wav",
        "text": "也不到百億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/210.wav",
        "text": "因為需求性可能沒有那麼高"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/211.wav",
        "text": "然後第三年應該就會達到百億"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/212.wav",
        "text": "在有關於醫藥的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/213.wav",
        "text": "其實衛福部爭取到的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/214.wav",
        "text": "真的是太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/215.wav",
        "text": "你們的進度也太慢了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/216.wav",
        "text": "我們政府不是沒有錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/217.wav",
        "text": "我們政府的錢"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/218.wav",
        "text": "是有一些誤用了"
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    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/219.wav",
        "text": "沒有真的花在刀口上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/220.wav",
        "text": "而關乎人民健康的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/221.wav",
        "text": "無論是全民健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/222.wav",
        "text": "或者是你要設的這個癌藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/223.wav",
        "text": "這個都是關乎全國人民的健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/224.wav",
        "text": "政府應該要更大刀闊斧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/225.wav",
        "text": "而且更有效率的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/226.wav",
        "text": "以你們現在的進程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/227.wav",
        "text": "坦白講我覺得是太慢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/228.wav",
        "text": "然後金額也太少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/229.wav",
        "text": "我們都還有一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/230.wav",
        "text": "健康臺灣的促進委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/231.wav",
        "text": "這個委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/232.wav",
        "text": "就應該要發揮這樣的功能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/233.wav",
        "text": "從總統這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/234.wav",
        "text": "就應該要做具體的政策宣示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/235.wav",
        "text": "應該是要一步到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/236.wav",
        "text": "而不是號稱百億基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/237.wav",
        "text": "結果就是用喊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/238.wav",
        "text": "啦到明年還沒有百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/239.wav",
        "text": "這個百億基金一定會落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/240.wav",
        "text": "三年內達到百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/241.wav",
        "text": "部長你可以把這個議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/242.wav",
        "text": "丟給委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/243.wav",
        "text": "讓它來幫你解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/244.wav",
        "text": "就是立法院代表民意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/245.wav",
        "text": "我們要求這個要應該一步到位"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/246.wav",
        "text": "而不是緩步到位好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/247.wav",
        "text": "總統府既然成立了委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/248.wav",
        "text": "它是要幫你解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/249.wav",
        "text": "不是要架空你的職權"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/250.wav",
        "text": "這個很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/251.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154404/252.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席請我們邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/3.wav",
        "text": "邱部長我請問一下最近這個新聞滿天飛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/4.wav",
        "text": "針對我們護理人員缺人的問題衛福部應該有瞭解吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/5.wav",
        "text": "當然瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/6.wav",
        "text": "我有看了你們的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/7.wav",
        "text": "你們調整了三班護病比比例的這個新制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/8.wav",
        "text": "也是希望能夠以此來改善現在護理的職場環境對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/9.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/10.wav",
        "text": "請問現在施行的成效如何"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/11.wav",
        "text": "12個策略"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/12.wav",
        "text": "包括第一個補助夜班的獎勵這個大概有撥了40億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/13.wav",
        "text": "我們也申請到中長程這個應該沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/14.wav",
        "text": "中長程的一個護理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/15.wav",
        "text": "現在施行的成效好嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/16.wav",
        "text": "有沒有解決我們缺人的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/17.wav",
        "text": "因為大院委員的關心以及政府的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/18.wav",
        "text": "其實可以發現各個醫院現在的回報都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/19.wav",
        "text": "任率都有提高啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/20.wav",
        "text": "但是只要我們有努力我相信就會一直改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/21.wav",
        "text": "好我們也希望能夠改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/22.wav",
        "text": "啦從衛福部112年分級醫療整體成效進度追蹤來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/23.wav",
        "text": "的成長率好像比醫學中心區域醫院來得更顯著"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/24.wav",
        "text": "所以我們可以看到地區醫院現在負責的量能看起來是越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/25.wav",
        "text": "從這個數據來看對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/26.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院看起來成長數是提高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/27.wav",
        "text": "所以它的量能從數據看來也是增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/28.wav",
        "text": "三班護病比的這個標準來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/29.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院負責的標準比例好像也是比較多對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/30.wav",
        "text": "他這個標準比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/31.wav",
        "text": "而且現在我們看到的就醫件數量能也是一直增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/32.wav",
        "text": "可是我們看一下夜班獎勵的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/33.wav",
        "text": "的護理師所做的事情其實是幾乎完全一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/34.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心區域醫院及地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/35.wav",
        "text": "的夜班獎勵對地區醫院的獎勵就是偏低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/36.wav",
        "text": "所以我們認為針對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/37.wav",
        "text": "你可以看到地區醫院的量能逐年增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/38.wav",
        "text": "然後護病比的比例也負擔加重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/39.wav",
        "text": "但夜班的獎勵卻是最少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/40.wav",
        "text": "所以我們也看到地區醫院護理人員的離職潮是越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/41.wav",
        "text": "這個離職潮與醫學中心區域醫院相比地區醫院看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/42.wav",
        "text": "的空缺率跟總離職率是最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/43.wav",
        "text": "部長針對這個部分有沒有什麼作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/44.wav",
        "text": "謝謝涂委員提出這些重要的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/45.wav",
        "text": "我個人覺得所有的醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/46.wav",
        "text": "不管是在哪一級的醫院或者是診所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/47.wav",
        "text": "都是盡心盡力都肩負了跟民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/48.wav",
        "text": "部長針對這個部分我們希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/49.wav",
        "text": "所以有關地區醫院我相信地區醫院的護理同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/50.wav",
        "text": "他們也是肩負起很大的責任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/51.wav",
        "text": "對你看它的就醫量能是提高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/52.wav",
        "text": "然後它所負擔的這個標準又是更高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/53.wav",
        "text": "相對的是它做得多但它的獎勵反而少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/54.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望針對三班護病比及夜間獎勵的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/55.wav",
        "text": "不然你看地區醫院的離職率越來越高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/56.wav",
        "text": "空缺率也越來越高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/57.wav",
        "text": "尤其像我自己的選區──大園觀音新屋楊梅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/58.wav",
        "text": "是全桃園醫療資源最匱乏的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/59.wav",
        "text": "而且我們那時候也有去視察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/60.wav",
        "text": "當然我們針對新屋分院的擴建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/61.wav",
        "text": "以及大坡腳長照設施是有規劃去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/62.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在這個區塊只有楊梅的天成醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/63.wav",
        "text": "及新屋的部桃新屋分院這三家地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/64.wav",
        "text": "可是這三家醫院我們看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/65.wav",
        "text": "的是只有醫院的硬體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/66.wav",
        "text": "卻招不到護理人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/67.wav",
        "text": "所以針對這個部分我希望部長能夠重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/68.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊地區醫院的缺人問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/69.wav",
        "text": "我們非常重視尤其偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/70.wav",
        "text": "不管是哪一個地方找不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/71.wav",
        "text": "人力就一定要想盡辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/72.wav",
        "text": "而且我們也絕對是一視同仁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/73.wav",
        "text": "雖然可能客觀上主觀上大家會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/74.wav",
        "text": "不同的單位會有不同的壓力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/75.wav",
        "text": "但是站在醫療醫護同仁對病人的同理心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/76.wav",
        "text": "他們的付出都是一樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/77.wav",
        "text": "所以你剛剛提出的這些數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/78.wav",
        "text": "是一個很好的根據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/79.wav",
        "text": "我們會滾動式來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/80.wav",
        "text": "尤其我們沿海南區的區域"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/81.wav",
        "text": "醫療資源最匱乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/82.wav",
        "text": "你看這麼大的區域只有三家地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/83.wav",
        "text": "而且重點是護理人員非常短缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/84.wav",
        "text": "只有硬體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/85.wav",
        "text": "這個短缺的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/86.wav",
        "text": "而且那時候我們在講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/87.wav",
        "text": "我們要增加新屋分院的擴建"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/88.wav",
        "text": "以及大坡腳長照設施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/89.wav",
        "text": "如果這個部分沒有改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/90.wav",
        "text": "我們護理人員短缺的問題會越來越嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/91.wav",
        "text": "請部長一定要重視這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/92.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/93.wav",
        "text": "有針對全臺灣82家醫院500名護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/94.wav",
        "text": "有超過九成的醫院都未落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/95.wav",
        "text": "覺得這部分的訊息是正確的嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/96.wav",
        "text": "幾乎有九成都沒有在落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/97.wav",
        "text": "我想各個醫院都有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/98.wav",
        "text": "我們今天提出來希望你們能夠重視"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/99.wav",
        "text": "啦但是達到的比例我們真的還是覺得不夠滿意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/100.wav",
        "text": "像醫院裡面有內科也有外科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/101.wav",
        "text": "有一般性病房也有慢性病房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/102.wav",
        "text": "還有呼吸照護病房加護病房等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/103.wav",
        "text": "但是我們現在所做的好像是全院的總體醫護比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/104.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/105.wav",
        "text": "總體的護病比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/106.wav",
        "text": "我們是做全院的對不對總體的護病比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/107.wav",
        "text": "護理界也有反映應以不同的病房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/108.wav",
        "text": "為單位只要任何人反映我們都會把它列入重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/109.wav",
        "text": "我們希望能夠針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/110.wav",
        "text": "但是在計算上可能會比較困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/111.wav",
        "text": "我們希望儘量針對每個病房你不要做全院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/112.wav",
        "text": "假設骨科病房白天班1比12"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/113.wav",
        "text": "但是有可能內科病房只有1比8"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/114.wav",
        "text": "但是你整體全院算下來1比10"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/115.wav",
        "text": "你覺得它符合標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/116.wav",
        "text": "但是在醫院裡面其實各科的落差是很大的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/117.wav",
        "text": "所以我們希望儘量能夠針對每個病房去計算護病比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/118.wav",
        "text": "不是用全院去計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/119.wav",
        "text": "而且應針對各病房的護病比來調整床數的配置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/120.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這個應該有很大的改善空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/121.wav",
        "text": "不然為什麼會造成護理人員這麼短缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/122.wav",
        "text": "是不是這個制度上有很大的改善空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/123.wav",
        "text": "三班護病比還有獎勵制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/124.wav",
        "text": "就像我們剛剛講的這個制度上應該有很大的改善空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/125.wav",
        "text": "而且我們剛剛可以看得到很多醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/126.wav",
        "text": "九成的醫院並沒有落實這個新制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/127.wav",
        "text": "所以我認為我們應該要有效有力的方式去約束醫院來落實這個新制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/128.wav",
        "text": "目前我們如果僅以獎勵的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/129.wav",
        "text": "我們覺得會讓護理人員覺得看得到吃不到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/130.wav",
        "text": "然後感覺衛福部訂定這一些新制好像是跟醫院站在一起"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/131.wav",
        "text": "而且並沒有真正在落實是漠視基層護理人員的辛酸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/132.wav",
        "text": "我完全瞭解我跟各位委員的心都是一致的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/133.wav",
        "text": "希望趕快改善現在的醫療困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/134.wav",
        "text": "但是因為這是要多方面研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/135.wav",
        "text": "我們也要讓醫院能夠順利來經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/136.wav",
        "text": "醫事人員的福利要照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/137.wav",
        "text": "這中間怎麼樣取得一個共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/138.wav",
        "text": "一個大家都能夠三贏的局面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/139.wav",
        "text": "我我覺得部長你針對我們前面這幾個數據好好研議一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/140.wav",
        "text": "你看在地區醫院它現在整個量能就醫比例的量能是一直逐年在攀升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/141.wav",
        "text": "然後你的標準比對於地區醫院也是不友善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/142.wav",
        "text": "醫學中心區域醫院跟地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/143.wav",
        "text": "難怪造成地區醫院的護理人員短缺而且離職率非常高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/144.wav",
        "text": "好我們來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/145.wav",
        "text": "我們會滾動式一直檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/146.wav",
        "text": "尤其我剛剛講我們這個選區本來醫療資源就很匱乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/147.wav",
        "text": "我們這邊只有三個地區醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/148.wav",
        "text": "所以衛福部希望能夠正視好好來解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/149.wav",
        "text": "是的我非常瞭解那個地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/150.wav",
        "text": "因為那幾個地區醫院的院長都是我好朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/151.wav",
        "text": "他們的困難我真的也非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/152.wav",
        "text": "我一定會全力來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/153.wav",
        "text": "好希望部長針對我們沿海醫療匱乏的地方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/154.wav",
        "text": "護理人員的短缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154405/155.wav",
        "text": "希望能夠好好的幫我們改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/0.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/2.wav",
        "text": "部長賴總統提出健康臺灣的願景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/3.wav",
        "text": "特別提到癌症死亡率要在2030年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/4.wav",
        "text": "所以具體的作法有三項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/5.wav",
        "text": "第一個就是提升早期癌症篩檢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/6.wav",
        "text": "第二個是聚焦基因檢測還有成立百億癌症新藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/7.wav",
        "text": "請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/8.wav",
        "text": "現行的五癌篩檢中是否在政策上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/9.wav",
        "text": "也要達到提升早期癌症篩檢的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/10.wav",
        "text": "也就是在具成本效益臨床上考量以及長期追蹤等等的考量下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/11.wav",
        "text": "可不可以將現行的五癌篩檢年齡層再往下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/12.wav",
        "text": "因為我們可以看到剛剛那一頁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/13.wav",
        "text": "剛剛那一頁我們可以看到現在的肺癌肝癌大腸癌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/14.wav",
        "text": "都是前三名標準化死亡率最高的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/15.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的指教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/16.wav",
        "text": "我想您關心這些癌症的狀況令人感佩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/17.wav",
        "text": "我想我30年來也都是照顧癌症的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/18.wav",
        "text": "在四癌篩檢的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/19.wav",
        "text": "那個時候的國健署實在推得很痛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/20.wav",
        "text": "我強迫臺大醫院一定要去成立一個單位軟硬體這樣來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/21.wav",
        "text": "當然也救了不少人的命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/22.wav",
        "text": "跟他的家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/23.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要繼續把它擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/24.wav",
        "text": "專家們也有這樣的討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/25.wav",
        "text": "委員也很關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/26.wav",
        "text": "因為這個牽涉到成本效益各方面的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/27.wav",
        "text": "還有就是你今天要把它降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/28.wav",
        "text": "是不是會增加醫師們的loading"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/29.wav",
        "text": "因為我自己也常常在推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/30.wav",
        "text": "你們是不是有目標要把它往下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/31.wav",
        "text": "因為我剛剛也有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/32.wav",
        "text": "有沒有要就是要整體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/33.wav",
        "text": "如果有必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/34.wav",
        "text": "當然我們都可以往下降往上延伸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/35.wav",
        "text": "只要對全民有幫助的一定全力以赴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/36.wav",
        "text": "只是說這個可能都是要專家評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/37.wav",
        "text": "好部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/38.wav",
        "text": "從這次最新的第五期的國家癌症防治計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/39.wav",
        "text": "的數據可以發現有幾個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/40.wav",
        "text": "癌別的年齡層有降低的趨勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/41.wav",
        "text": "尤其大腸癌的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/42.wav",
        "text": "不僅發生率的年齡降低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/43.wav",
        "text": "在死亡的年齡層也往下探"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/44.wav",
        "text": "從40歲以後整個曲線圖就直線上升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/45.wav",
        "text": "定量免疫法的糞便潛血檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/46.wav",
        "text": "是不是應該要往下調整到40歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/47.wav",
        "text": "請部長回去是不是可以研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/48.wav",
        "text": "因為我覺得早期篩檢早期治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/49.wav",
        "text": "可以增加存活率跟降低健保的支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/50.wav",
        "text": "我覺得都可以有機會達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/51.wav",
        "text": "賴總統所謂健康臺灣癌症死亡率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/52.wav",
        "text": "降低三分之一的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/53.wav",
        "text": "這部分可不可以請部長回去好好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/54.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告我當立委的時候就是一直在爭取這個預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/55.wav",
        "text": "不曉得署長有沒有要回應一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/56.wav",
        "text": "謝謝委員的關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/57.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我們目前都在跟專家討論當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/58.wav",
        "text": "或者是其他的更好的工具來評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/59.wav",
        "text": "或是更有效的介入方式我們都在討論當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/60.wav",
        "text": "還在討論喔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/61.wav",
        "text": "但是這個一定是專家要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/62.wav",
        "text": "既然在討論那是不是要有一個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/63.wav",
        "text": "不然一直在討論對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/64.wav",
        "text": "未能回診追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/65.wav",
        "text": "所以如果能夠及早治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/66.wav",
        "text": "手術就能切除的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/67.wav",
        "text": "我想治療的成本費用也會遠低於標靶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/68.wav",
        "text": "重粒子質子等晚期治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/69.wav",
        "text": "總額裡面有一個癌症治療品質改善計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/70.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/71.wav",
        "text": "這個專款今年總共是5.17億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/72.wav",
        "text": "也就是用來提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/73.wav",
        "text": "這個五癌篩檢的後續追蹤管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/74.wav",
        "text": "所以請教部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/75.wav",
        "text": "我還是再講一件事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/76.wav",
        "text": "如果能把這五癌的篩檢率陽追率提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/77.wav",
        "text": "並且加強個案管理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/78.wav",
        "text": "一定能有效地降低癌症死亡率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/79.wav",
        "text": "所以我想要問的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/80.wav",
        "text": "明年總額裡面這部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/81.wav",
        "text": "的專款是否要再提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/82.wav",
        "text": "我想這個一定要編至"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/83.wav",
        "text": "於是不是要擴編或怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/84.wav",
        "text": "可能要再研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/85.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得這個非常重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/86.wav",
        "text": "因為我們把它篩檢出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/87.wav",
        "text": "結果沒有來追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/88.wav",
        "text": "這是很可惜的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/89.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要從醫院方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/90.wav",
        "text": "跟基層診所方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/91.wav",
        "text": "給他們最好的一個鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/92.wav",
        "text": "還有就是在軟體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/93.wav",
        "text": "譬如說在臺大醫院的電腦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/94.wav",
        "text": "都會出現這個人的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/95.wav",
        "text": "然後要提醒他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/96.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/97.wav",
        "text": "我相信這樣的天羅地網"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/98.wav",
        "text": "然後加上醫師再跟他多勸告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/99.wav",
        "text": "不敢去面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/100.wav",
        "text": "說實在的人其實是脆弱的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/101.wav",
        "text": "有時候會不敢去面對真實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/102.wav",
        "text": "所以還是要勇敢地去面對追蹤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/103.wav",
        "text": "部長美國癌症醫學會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/104.wav",
        "text": "已經在2021年所公布的指引裡面建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/105.wav",
        "text": "將需要開始篩檢大腸癌的年齡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/106.wav",
        "text": "從50歲下調到45歲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/107.wav",
        "text": "常年是癌症十大死因的前三名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/108.wav",
        "text": "並且國際研究也顯示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/109.wav",
        "text": "因為年輕人沒有定期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/110.wav",
        "text": "篩檢的保護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/111.wav",
        "text": "所以從有症狀到就醫確診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/112.wav",
        "text": "至少都要花半年以上的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/113.wav",
        "text": "相較於這些50歲以上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/114.wav",
        "text": "有定期篩檢的族群"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/115.wav",
        "text": "50歲以上第三四期發現的比例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/116.wav",
        "text": "大概占兩到三成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/117.wav",
        "text": "年輕的癌友檢查出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/118.wav",
        "text": "第三四期的比例高達五到六成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/119.wav",
        "text": "所以我還是要再講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/120.wav",
        "text": "就是我希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/121.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以儘速研議這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/122.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/123.wav",
        "text": "我們儘速研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/124.wav",
        "text": "那你們有沒有一個時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/125.wav",
        "text": "3個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/126.wav",
        "text": "我相信3個月可以把研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/127.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/128.wav",
        "text": "今年以來流感疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/129.wav",
        "text": "和腸病毒也都進到流行的週期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/130.wav",
        "text": "再加上新冠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/131.wav",
        "text": "所以各醫療院所都塞爆了在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/132.wav",
        "text": "上週健保門診"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/133.wav",
        "text": "診斷新冠陽性約9萬人次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/134.wav",
        "text": "預計高峰在7月中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/135.wav",
        "text": "人數也可能突破10萬人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/136.wav",
        "text": "部長按照這個趨勢來看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/137.wav",
        "text": "剛剛好像也有委員問到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/138.wav",
        "text": "第二季第三季的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/139.wav",
        "text": "可能會掉到0.9以下很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/140.wav",
        "text": "今年會針對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/141.wav",
        "text": "來做額外的補點值嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/142.wav",
        "text": "醫界已經在反映了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/143.wav",
        "text": "所以我想我們會尊重醫界反映的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/144.wav",
        "text": "爭取相關預算來補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/145.wav",
        "text": "跟去年一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/146.wav",
        "text": "OK"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/147.wav",
        "text": "跟去年一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/148.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/149.wav",
        "text": "我們也可以看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/150.wav",
        "text": "是不是未來還是會持續的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/151.wav",
        "text": "撥補到我們這個部分的缺口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/152.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/153.wav",
        "text": "尤其是像這麼大的疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/154.wav",
        "text": "能夠爭取額外的經費來幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/155.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠穩住"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/156.wav",
        "text": "我們原來需要醫療治療的這些量能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/157.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/158.wav",
        "text": "雖然我還有準備其他的題目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/159.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是想要問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/160.wav",
        "text": "最近一直在討論這個健保點值的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/161.wav",
        "text": "其實在去年11月23號"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/162.wav",
        "text": "薛瑞元部長在這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/163.wav",
        "text": "備詢的時候說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/164.wav",
        "text": "利潤還不到5%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/165.wav",
        "text": "甚至有一些虧損"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/166.wav",
        "text": "其實上次我們的署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/167.wav",
        "text": "也有一直說現在要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/168.wav",
        "text": "就各個部分去想看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/169.wav",
        "text": "屬於公衛的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/170.wav",
        "text": "是不是用公務預算來撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/171.wav",
        "text": "有講了很多林林總總的細節"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/172.wav",
        "text": "但是我還是想要請問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/173.wav",
        "text": "大家還是關心說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/174.wav",
        "text": "你們有沒有評估過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/175.wav",
        "text": "你們現在的這些作法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/176.wav",
        "text": "在撥補完之後會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/177.wav",
        "text": "挪出多少的財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/178.wav",
        "text": "財源以及有沒有可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/179.wav",
        "text": "浮動往哪些點值的目標去穩定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/180.wav",
        "text": "譬如說在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/181.wav",
        "text": "你們做了這些措施之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/182.wav",
        "text": "你有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/183.wav",
        "text": "維穩在0.920.95元嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/184.wav",
        "text": "或者是你只能夠在0.9或是以下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/185.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝你給我機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/186.wav",
        "text": "我具體回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/187.wav",
        "text": "不要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/188.wav",
        "text": "讓媒體又說我沒有具體回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/189.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/190.wav",
        "text": "我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/191.wav",
        "text": "我們列出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/192.wav",
        "text": "跟健康台灣列出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/193.wav",
        "text": "幾個短中長程的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/194.wav",
        "text": "都是應該要去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/195.wav",
        "text": "第一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/196.wav",
        "text": "36%的那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/197.wav",
        "text": "以前有很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/198.wav",
        "text": "都把它塞進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/199.wav",
        "text": "都把它塞進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/200.wav",
        "text": "會影響到那個36%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/201.wav",
        "text": "其實是健保的費用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/202.wav",
        "text": "挪出103十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/203.wav",
        "text": "我們這兩天會去開一個會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/204.wav",
        "text": "把其實應該由公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/205.wav",
        "text": "就由公務預算來支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/206.wav",
        "text": "不要把它塞進來健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/207.wav",
        "text": "這個挪出去的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/208.wav",
        "text": "當然我不可能一年全部挪出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/209.wav",
        "text": "這樣恐怕會亂了陣腳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/210.wav",
        "text": "是一年一年的挪出去大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/211.wav",
        "text": "一年應該會有一百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/212.wav",
        "text": "三年應該有三百多億可以出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/213.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣的話這個就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/214.wav",
        "text": "都用在健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/215.wav",
        "text": "你想想看在我們去年補0.9的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/216.wav",
        "text": "是當立委我也拚得要死"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/217.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院的吳明賢院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/218.wav",
        "text": "幸好有補這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/219.wav",
        "text": "他們第二季賺的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/220.wav",
        "text": "就賺那個點值的補而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/221.wav",
        "text": "啦所以醫療院所真的很難經營"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/222.wav",
        "text": "大家不要以為他們很好賺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/223.wav",
        "text": "它可能才能去做一些事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/224.wav",
        "text": "反正要把這些挪出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/225.wav",
        "text": "比較要去動到修法的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/226.wav",
        "text": "是不是可以多出一點點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/227.wav",
        "text": "補充保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/228.wav",
        "text": "當然補充保費過去在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/229.wav",
        "text": "但是我是覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/230.wav",
        "text": "健保的意義就是照顧弱勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/231.wav",
        "text": "可以挪出來的一些補充保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/232.wav",
        "text": "我們對這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/233.wav",
        "text": "做處理的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/234.wav",
        "text": "這是中程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/235.wav",
        "text": "那我們一步一步來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/236.wav",
        "text": "我相信如果第一步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/237.wav",
        "text": "我們這樣做然後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/238.wav",
        "text": "補充幾百億的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/239.wav",
        "text": "大概點值應該是會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/240.wav",
        "text": "應該是沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/241.wav",
        "text": "那我想請問你你在這一年內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/242.wav",
        "text": "有辦法達成嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/243.wav",
        "text": "而且這個是實際上在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/244.wav",
        "text": "是部長請問你這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/245.wav",
        "text": "多久可以達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/246.wav",
        "text": "現在看起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/247.wav",
        "text": "醫療體系已經面臨崩潰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/248.wav",
        "text": "需要打強心針啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/249.wav",
        "text": "不管長期是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/250.wav",
        "text": "但是短期好像需要強心針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/251.wav",
        "text": "有辦法達到什麼樣的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/252.wav",
        "text": "目前我們一直在跟行政院溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/253.wav",
        "text": "那就是明年的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/254.wav",
        "text": "我們所提出的這些訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/255.wav",
        "text": "都能夠達到的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/256.wav",
        "text": "我相信明年開始的點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/257.wav",
        "text": "就會達到這樣的目標了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/258.wav",
        "text": "一個爭取的方向好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/259.wav",
        "text": "我覺得用特別條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/260.wav",
        "text": "特別預算的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/261.wav",
        "text": "短期內先打一劑強心針"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/262.wav",
        "text": "短期內可能是一到三年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/263.wav",
        "text": "我是這樣建議因為你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/264.wav",
        "text": "所謂的健保改革要很長的時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/265.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛講的所有東西都要非常長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/266.wav",
        "text": "的時間我覺得這個東西已經緩不濟急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/267.wav",
        "text": "所以我建議這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/268.wav",
        "text": "\n另外其實年初"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/269.wav",
        "text": "也有說這個新藥國際治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/270.wav",
        "text": "指引全給付的政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/271.wav",
        "text": "你們也說這是國家應該做的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/272.wav",
        "text": "病友團體打電話到我們的辦公室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/273.wav",
        "text": "醫療的好政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/274.wav",
        "text": "所以今天要就百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/275.wav",
        "text": "癌症新藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/276.wav",
        "text": "向您請教"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/277.wav",
        "text": "這個是我們整理出來的圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/278.wav",
        "text": "你可以看到這幾個癌症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/279.wav",
        "text": "後面有乳癌大腸癌等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/280.wav",
        "text": "其實最後這一欄有這個給付與指引的差異"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/281.wav",
        "text": "幾乎都是未給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/282.wav",
        "text": "有很多是未給付的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/283.wav",
        "text": "但是沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/284.wav",
        "text": "我今天是想要先問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/285.wav",
        "text": "上次有提到暫時性給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/286.wav",
        "text": "今年總額也有匡列二十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/287.wav",
        "text": "加上原本的新藥專款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/288.wav",
        "text": "大概四十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/289.wav",
        "text": "總共六十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/290.wav",
        "text": "我想要請問"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/291.wav",
        "text": "原本總額中的暫時性給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/292.wav",
        "text": "跟新藥專款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/293.wav",
        "text": "甚至是罕病專款"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/294.wav",
        "text": "當然它已經超過105十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/295.wav",
        "text": "了它是會繼續留在總額內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/296.wav",
        "text": "還是你會把它撥到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/297.wav",
        "text": "百億癌症新藥基金裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/298.wav",
        "text": "或是只有暫時性給付過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/299.wav",
        "text": "或是未來能進入基金的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/300.wav",
        "text": "還是限於癌症新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/301.wav",
        "text": "大概百億基金應該現在的訴求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/302.wav",
        "text": "是希望讓民眾多一點救命的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/303.wav",
        "text": "所以那個比較療效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/304.wav",
        "text": "還是要再確認等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/305.wav",
        "text": "也就是說對於今年二十幾億那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/306.wav",
        "text": "我們明年會把它用公務預算擴充到60"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/307.wav",
        "text": "億到第三年應該可以到100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/308.wav",
        "text": "至於罕病這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/309.wav",
        "text": "應該有的經費我們覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/310.wav",
        "text": "甚至都要加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/311.wav",
        "text": "但是它們兩個不會衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/312.wav",
        "text": "不會去衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/313.wav",
        "text": "本來已經有合乎適應症的癌症治療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/314.wav",
        "text": "那個也是健保已經在給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154406/315.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/2.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/3.wav",
        "text": "早上從第一位質詢到我這裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/4.wav",
        "text": "剛好有一個陳菁徽是醫生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/5.wav",
        "text": "再來是我等一下就是王正旭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/6.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/7.wav",
        "text": "不是醫療人員的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/8.wav",
        "text": "你從早上回答到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/9.wav",
        "text": "36%的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/10.wav",
        "text": "只有那個部分講得比較清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/11.wav",
        "text": "一點剩下的我都不知道你在講什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/12.wav",
        "text": "空洞無物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/13.wav",
        "text": "我看你繼續當立委好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/14.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/15.wav",
        "text": "上個禮拜八大醫事團體來拜訪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/16.wav",
        "text": "韓國瑜院長還有江啟臣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/17.wav",
        "text": "大家講得非常深入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/18.wav",
        "text": "那是我安排的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/19.wav",
        "text": "我聽江啟臣講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/20.wav",
        "text": "我聽得很痛心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/21.wav",
        "text": "他說你們去WHA去瑞士"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/22.wav",
        "text": "去日內瓦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/23.wav",
        "text": "我有去過3次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/24.wav",
        "text": "因為我們的點滴都搞不定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/25.wav",
        "text": "點滴就是食鹽水葡萄糖水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/26.wav",
        "text": "什麼輸液講得那麼有水準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/27.wav",
        "text": "為什麼殺頭的生意有人做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/28.wav",
        "text": "賠本的生意沒人要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/29.wav",
        "text": "一家永豐出一個紕漏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/30.wav",
        "text": "臺灣居然是停擺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/31.wav",
        "text": "然後永豐就擺爛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/32.wav",
        "text": "擺爛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/33.wav",
        "text": "它到底有沒有在更新設備"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/34.wav",
        "text": "有沒有在解決它的缺失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/35.wav",
        "text": "再來的問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/36.wav",
        "text": "你們核價核得那麼低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/37.wav",
        "text": "500CC的核25點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/38.wav",
        "text": "1,000CC的核35點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/39.wav",
        "text": "3,000CC的核65點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/40.wav",
        "text": "比礦泉水還便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/41.wav",
        "text": "然後現在要跟人家買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/42.wav",
        "text": "嚇死人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/43.wav",
        "text": "了新加坡那邊500CC的是56塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/44.wav",
        "text": "73塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/45.wav",
        "text": "1,000CC的是107"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/46.wav",
        "text": "樣你買得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/47.wav",
        "text": "你也是要買"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/48.wav",
        "text": "有問題的進口商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/49.wav",
        "text": "你也讓它進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/50.wav",
        "text": "你不要像雞蛋一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/51.wav",
        "text": "一個超思一間40萬營業額的公司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/52.wav",
        "text": "你如果再這樣弄"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/53.wav",
        "text": "你會被抓去關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/54.wav",
        "text": "我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/55.wav",
        "text": "你的擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/56.wav",
        "text": "大家都有在打拚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/57.wav",
        "text": "所以目前當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/58.wav",
        "text": "我們找的公司其實都有經過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/59.wav",
        "text": "剛才副署長有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/60.wav",
        "text": "但是都已經經過驗證了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/61.wav",
        "text": "絕對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/62.wav",
        "text": "每一家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/63.wav",
        "text": "我們是非常小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/64.wav",
        "text": "啦我們的次長在主持這些相關的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/65.wav",
        "text": "非常的辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/66.wav",
        "text": "而且他也特別提醒我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/67.wav",
        "text": "要給它機會公平正義"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/68.wav",
        "text": "所以現在反而會造成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/69.wav",
        "text": "醫院裡面進的廠牌比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/70.wav",
        "text": "管理上真的比較麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/71.wav",
        "text": "如果超過50%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/72.wav",
        "text": "就有可能會壟斷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/73.wav",
        "text": "有可能會操縱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/74.wav",
        "text": "當然前面給付太低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/75.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有人要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/76.wav",
        "text": "沒有人要投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/77.wav",
        "text": "現在這間被養得這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/78.wav",
        "text": "data都要送上來嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/79.wav",
        "text": "他們自己檢測的data"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/80.wav",
        "text": "又說去年就發現它的點滴裡面有pyrogen"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/81.wav",
        "text": "有一些雜質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/82.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這回事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/83.wav",
        "text": "現在出事了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/84.wav",
        "text": "停產我也會做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/85.wav",
        "text": "出包開花了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/86.wav",
        "text": "都是按照規定在做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/87.wav",
        "text": "各方面可以再來加強"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/88.wav",
        "text": "情這是我們未來應該要檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/89.wav",
        "text": "的而且只有一間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/90.wav",
        "text": "獨占這也是有它的背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/91.wav",
        "text": "啦因為這間永豐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/92.wav",
        "text": "你很瞭解醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/93.wav",
        "text": "它的服務很好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/94.wav",
        "text": "啊它都是送到你的房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/95.wav",
        "text": "房子裡服務好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/96.wav",
        "text": "所以醫生醫療院所就用得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/97.wav",
        "text": "比較自然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/98.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得站在政府的立場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/99.wav",
        "text": "要注意這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/100.wav",
        "text": "這是國安問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/101.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/102.wav",
        "text": "點滴是很可怕的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/103.wav",
        "text": "現在卡車把它載到醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/104.wav",
        "text": "請問誰要來送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/105.wav",
        "text": "它很重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/106.wav",
        "text": "如果要請護士來推"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/107.wav",
        "text": "我看馬上就出事了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/108.wav",
        "text": "馬上就有職業傷害了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/109.wav",
        "text": "用車幫我們送到病房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/110.wav",
        "text": "因為要叫護理人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/111.wav",
        "text": "子就幾百公斤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/112.wav",
        "text": "所以都叫廠商幫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/113.wav",
        "text": "再加錢給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/114.wav",
        "text": "你們給付的點數了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/115.wav",
        "text": "所以點滴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/116.wav",
        "text": "核給點數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/117.wav",
        "text": "跟你收錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/118.wav",
        "text": "現在都這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/119.wav",
        "text": "現在已經這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/120.wav",
        "text": "了如果要再送去樓上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/121.wav",
        "text": "有的會叫你加錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/122.wav",
        "text": "這種工作有人在做嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/123.wav",
        "text": "殺頭的生意有人做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/124.wav",
        "text": "賠本的生意絕對沒有人做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/125.wav",
        "text": "如果你今天把它核到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/126.wav",
        "text": "我看另外那五六間就擴廠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/127.wav",
        "text": "這種事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/128.wav",
        "text": "這就是全民要瞭解醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/129.wav",
        "text": "真的面對很大的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/130.wav",
        "text": "所以全民也要來幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/131.wav",
        "text": "大家看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/132.wav",
        "text": "石崇良就聞風喪膽"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/133.wav",
        "text": "沒有啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/134.wav",
        "text": "讓一個行業混不下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/135.wav",
        "text": "這個絕對會出紕漏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/136.wav",
        "text": "漏今天出這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/137.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得什麼時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/138.wav",
        "text": "每一項的點數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/139.wav",
        "text": "石署長你當住院醫師的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/140.wav",
        "text": "你的點數就是從勞保搬過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/141.wav",
        "text": "到現在都亂改一通要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/142.wav",
        "text": "全盤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/143.wav",
        "text": "既然要好好做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/144.wav",
        "text": "既然要釜底抽薪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/145.wav",
        "text": "就要好好把點數改一改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/146.wav",
        "text": "我兒子是心臟外科"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/147.wav",
        "text": "是幾萬點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/148.wav",
        "text": "我說我去查美國的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/149.wav",
        "text": "所以他就每天都在幹譙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/150.wav",
        "text": "真的要用騙的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/151.wav",
        "text": "有理想有抱負"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/152.wav",
        "text": "濟死扶傷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/153.wav",
        "text": "沒有在聽你這一套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/154.wav",
        "text": "了你有可能有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/155.wav",
        "text": "我可能有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/156.wav",
        "text": "現在他們都沒有在聽這一套"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/157.wav",
        "text": "了所以我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/158.wav",
        "text": "既然要做要好好做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/159.wav",
        "text": "那個百億基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/160.wav",
        "text": "百億癌症基金是什麼意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/161.wav",
        "text": "我聽不懂你在說什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/162.wav",
        "text": "什麼今年二十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/163.wav",
        "text": "明年六十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/164.wav",
        "text": "是沒在用嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/165.wav",
        "text": "你不用完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/166.wav",
        "text": "法兩個月就花光了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/167.wav",
        "text": "呢那是有在挹注嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/168.wav",
        "text": "委員是專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/169.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/170.wav",
        "text": "這個百億基金的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/171.wav",
        "text": "是這樣就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/172.wav",
        "text": "它對於有一些還有不確定性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/173.wav",
        "text": "沒有馬上進入健保的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/174.wav",
        "text": "癌症新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/175.wav",
        "text": "先放在這個基金裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/176.wav",
        "text": "對對對癌症的新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/177.wav",
        "text": "所以它跟我們的健保總額是切開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/178.wav",
        "text": "的它是一個獨立的公務預算來支應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/179.wav",
        "text": "但是它這個費用還是要控管"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/180.wav",
        "text": "所以它的停留時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/181.wav",
        "text": "我們規劃最長不超過3年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/182.wav",
        "text": "所以用3年來做規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/183.wav",
        "text": "一方面可以作為我們健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/184.wav",
        "text": "要納入時的財務衝擊的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/185.wav",
        "text": "確實評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/186.wav",
        "text": "編列相當的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/187.wav",
        "text": "避免影響到服務點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/188.wav",
        "text": "一方面也讓那個臨床試驗沒有做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/189.wav",
        "text": "這些藥大部分都沒有做三期臨床試驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/190.wav",
        "text": "所以讓它在這兩三年之間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/191.wav",
        "text": "繼續蒐集真實世界資料來做驗證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/192.wav",
        "text": "驗證它的價值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/193.wav",
        "text": "再來做最後的議價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/194.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/195.wav",
        "text": "美國FDA approve"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/196.wav",
        "text": "可以用啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/197.wav",
        "text": "重做到PhaseⅢ"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/198.wav",
        "text": "對不對是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/199.wav",
        "text": "沒有本來有的國家也是像"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/200.wav",
        "text": "我們這個制度跟英國學"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/201.wav",
        "text": "英國也是有這樣的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/202.wav",
        "text": "就是現在的藥物"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/203.wav",
        "text": "越來越有所謂快速許可的概念"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/204.wav",
        "text": "d或者是break through"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/205.wav",
        "text": "所以都還沒完成三期臨床試驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/206.wav",
        "text": "就先讓它通過藥證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/207.wav",
        "text": "我在香港看他們的衛生署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/208.wav",
        "text": "香港衛生署只要美國跟歐盟有通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/209.wav",
        "text": "他們就馬上可以用了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/210.wav",
        "text": "不管是藥不管是特殊材料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/211.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告他們有很高的部分負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/212.wav",
        "text": "新藥進來要五百零多天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/213.wav",
        "text": "所以你要用癌症基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/214.wav",
        "text": "來應付這些新進來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/215.wav",
        "text": "還是根本負擔不起這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/216.wav",
        "text": "你有一直灌水下去嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/217.wav",
        "text": "一下子就用完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/218.wav",
        "text": "陳昭姿委員跟我說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/219.wav",
        "text": "3年達100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/220.wav",
        "text": "之後每年都會維持100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/221.wav",
        "text": "維持100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/222.wav",
        "text": "是用哪裡的錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/223.wav",
        "text": "目前的規劃都是用公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/224.wav",
        "text": "又從健保那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/225.wav",
        "text": "我應該不會幹這種事吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/226.wav",
        "text": "幹這種事你就完了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/227.wav",
        "text": "喔我跟你講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/228.wav",
        "text": "是維持醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/229.wav",
        "text": "跟照顧人民基本的糧草"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/230.wav",
        "text": "外增加的希望由國家來幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/231.wav",
        "text": "明賢大哥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/232.wav",
        "text": "他說幸好去年有補一點錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/233.wav",
        "text": "給他不然他就是50年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/234.wav",
        "text": "首位虧損的臺大醫院院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/235.wav",
        "text": "他真的要去撞牆要跳樓"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/236.wav",
        "text": "了無言面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/237.wav",
        "text": "了一點錢給他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/238.wav",
        "text": "所以醫界的滿意度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/239.wav",
        "text": "你看第一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/240.wav",
        "text": "全世界可能沒有一個公共政策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/241.wav",
        "text": "是百姓的滿意度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/242.wav",
        "text": "結果醫護人員的滿意度只有30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/243.wav",
        "text": "沾沾自喜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/244.wav",
        "text": "大家都在四處歕雞胿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/245.wav",
        "text": "我聽你們在歕雞胿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/246.wav",
        "text": "胿聽了真的很難過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/247.wav",
        "text": "你要做什麼我都會支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/248.wav",
        "text": "只要他自己能活得下去就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/249.wav",
        "text": "署長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/250.wav",
        "text": "我很尊重你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/251.wav",
        "text": "癌症篩檢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/252.wav",
        "text": "我跟大家報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/253.wav",
        "text": "韓國現在的健保費率是6.47%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/254.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/255.wav",
        "text": "好像對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/256.wav",
        "text": "我們才5.17%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/257.wav",
        "text": "他們的占GDP已經占到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/258.wav",
        "text": "八點多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/259.wav",
        "text": "所以韓國的所有指標都贏我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/260.wav",
        "text": "平均壽命也贏我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/261.wav",
        "text": "我們臺灣的平均壽命現在比不上韓國"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/262.wav",
        "text": "每一樣都輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/263.wav",
        "text": "我們的平均壽命已經減少一歲多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/264.wav",
        "text": "現在剩七十九歲多而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/265.wav",
        "text": "的錢是從哪裡來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/266.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/267.wav",
        "text": "那篩檢的錢目前是用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/268.wav",
        "text": "我們的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/269.wav",
        "text": "其他都不及格"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/270.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/271.wav",
        "text": "後你講這個就好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/272.wav",
        "text": "你有什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/273.wav",
        "text": "我想我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/274.wav",
        "text": "如何去提高整體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/275.wav",
        "text": "篩檢率跟涵蓋率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/276.wav",
        "text": "對於早期癌症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/277.wav",
        "text": "是非常重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/278.wav",
        "text": "什麼誘因什麼獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/279.wav",
        "text": "那當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/280.wav",
        "text": "錢夠吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/281.wav",
        "text": "國健署的基金不是很多錢嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/282.wav",
        "text": "我們的基金並沒有很多錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/283.wav",
        "text": "我相信這是一定要去做的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154407/284.wav",
        "text": "對啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席我們請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/2.wav",
        "text": "召委好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/3.wav",
        "text": "部長好部長我從早上聽到剛剛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/4.wav",
        "text": "我想請教有關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/5.wav",
        "text": "我其實是還滿納悶的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/6.wav",
        "text": "永豐發生輸液的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/7.wav",
        "text": "到現在也好幾個月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/8.wav",
        "text": "我是覺得輸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/9.wav",
        "text": "只有這一家永豐在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/10.wav",
        "text": "變成它是獨占市場是不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/11.wav",
        "text": "因為永豐有做2公升的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/12.wav",
        "text": "而2公升在洗腎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/13.wav",
        "text": "可能在沖洗上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/14.wav",
        "text": "有它的用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/15.wav",
        "text": "的確因為別人比較沒在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/16.wav",
        "text": "部長我想請教的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/17.wav",
        "text": "我覺得食藥署在這方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/18.wav",
        "text": "應該也要去做一個盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/19.wav",
        "text": "到底有幾家可以做這樣的輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/20.wav",
        "text": "未來你們要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/21.wav",
        "text": "而不是你剛剛講做輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/22.wav",
        "text": "可能要到年底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/23.wav",
        "text": "其他部分可能就是用進口的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/24.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這樣不太對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/25.wav",
        "text": "應該要去扶植臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/26.wav",
        "text": "可以自己製作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/27.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該是要朝著這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/28.wav",
        "text": "啦既然可以從國外進口這些輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/29.wav",
        "text": "而且費用還要花好幾億來進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/30.wav",
        "text": "我覺得為什麼不能讓國內這些廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/31.wav",
        "text": "一方面也是要有一些誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/32.wav",
        "text": "讓他們願意生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/33.wav",
        "text": "是不是我可以聽到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/34.wav",
        "text": "部長有一些具體的回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/35.wav",
        "text": "好我想這個方向絕對要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/36.wav",
        "text": "經過這次的經驗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/37.wav",
        "text": "我相信一定要往這方面來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/38.wav",
        "text": "所以我們除了一方面緊急專案進口以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/39.wav",
        "text": "還一直協助國內可以製造的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/40.wav",
        "text": "當然因為要增加人增加線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/41.wav",
        "text": "還要加班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/42.wav",
        "text": "所以的確價錢會比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/43.wav",
        "text": "我們過去是不是都用太低價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/44.wav",
        "text": "購買讓很多廠商不願意去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/45.wav",
        "text": "永豐因為量大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/46.wav",
        "text": "是不是因為這樣可能在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/47.wav",
        "text": "廠的品質要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/48.wav",
        "text": "是不是也會受到影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/49.wav",
        "text": "這個我們都是說實在話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/50.wav",
        "text": "這個就是我們食藥署要做的工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/51.wav",
        "text": "啦就是檢查到有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/52.wav",
        "text": "一切就是按照規定處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/53.wav",
        "text": "整個停產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/54.wav",
        "text": "這個是讓我嚇一跳"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/55.wav",
        "text": "全臺灣好像就只有這一家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/56.wav",
        "text": "這一家停產之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/57.wav",
        "text": "沒人在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/58.wav",
        "text": "所以我覺得你們未來要怎麼做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/59.wav",
        "text": "如果萬一又發生這個事情怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/60.wav",
        "text": "不能只有這一家來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/61.wav",
        "text": "嘛所以是不是要有什麼樣的誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/62.wav",
        "text": "我們未來一定會訂定相關辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/63.wav",
        "text": "不能讓獨家占這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/64.wav",
        "text": "所以你們現在有這樣的規劃"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/65.wav",
        "text": "已經有請其他廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/66.wav",
        "text": "現在在補救的過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/67.wav",
        "text": "在研擬未來的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/68.wav",
        "text": "有把這個列為非常重要的一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/69.wav",
        "text": "所以未來我們一定要扶植國內更多廠商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/70.wav",
        "text": "可能未來的核價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/71.wav",
        "text": "上要讓人家能夠做得下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/72.wav",
        "text": "是所以你們現在的核價是讓人家做不下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/73.wav",
        "text": "才會只有一間在做就對了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/74.wav",
        "text": "是這樣子嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/75.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告其實應該是這麼講就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/76.wav",
        "text": "這個技術並不困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/77.wav",
        "text": "但是短時間要馬上增量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/78.wav",
        "text": "它會有一些產線的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/79.wav",
        "text": "一下子是沒有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/80.wav",
        "text": "的所以短期還是需要靠國外進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/81.wav",
        "text": "而國外的進口因為又有時效的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/82.wav",
        "text": "因為我們需要很快的補足"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/83.wav",
        "text": "所以它相對的成本會比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/84.wav",
        "text": "但如果是長期而言的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/85.wav",
        "text": "那個價格應該也不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/86.wav",
        "text": "所以這一次對於專案進口的核價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/87.wav",
        "text": "之所以會這麼高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/88.wav",
        "text": "主要是它有時間的限制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/89.wav",
        "text": "還有量的要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/90.wav",
        "text": "上就是剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/91.wav",
        "text": "如果說價格讓人家做不下去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/92.wav",
        "text": "當然就沒人要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/93.wav",
        "text": "你就是要有一些誘因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/94.wav",
        "text": "這些輸液我們過去幾乎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/95.wav",
        "text": "時間至少6年都沒有在砍價了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/96.wav",
        "text": "已經一段時間了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/97.wav",
        "text": "之所以沒有提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/98.wav",
        "text": "也是因為沒有廠商來提"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/99.wav",
        "text": "從我們的藥價調查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/100.wav",
        "text": "醫院的進價還低於健保的核價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/101.wav",
        "text": "所以一方面是沒有廠商來提出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/102.wav",
        "text": "申請提高健保核價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/103.wav",
        "text": "一方面是藥價調查結果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/104.wav",
        "text": "還低於健保的核價"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/105.wav",
        "text": "所以才沒有調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/106.wav",
        "text": "不過經過這個事件之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/107.wav",
        "text": "我們會全盤來檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/108.wav",
        "text": "好除了輸液之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/109.wav",
        "text": "剛剛也有委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/110.wav",
        "text": "可能國內常用的一些藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/111.wav",
        "text": "我覺得應該也要一併去討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/112.wav",
        "text": "可能也是要去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/113.wav",
        "text": "到底這樣的藥品這樣的輸液"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/114.wav",
        "text": "有幾家在做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/115.wav",
        "text": "今天發生的這樣一個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/116.wav",
        "text": "我覺得真的要去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/117.wav",
        "text": "不要說到時候又發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/118.wav",
        "text": "哪個藥又短缺"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/119.wav",
        "text": "然後又要從國外緊急進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/120.wav",
        "text": "這樣的事情再次發生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/121.wav",
        "text": "所以我希望衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/122.wav",
        "text": "食藥署健保署"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/123.wav",
        "text": "可不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/124.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講的比較大公升的那種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/125.wav",
        "text": "就是永豐自己生產"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/126.wav",
        "text": "那是不是也要輔導其他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/127.wav",
        "text": "可以製作的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/128.wav",
        "text": "因為如果沒什麼技術性的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/129.wav",
        "text": "是不是也要輔導其他的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/130.wav",
        "text": "廠也可以做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/131.wav",
        "text": "而不是只有一家來做當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/132.wav",
        "text": "當然這個要朝這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/133.wav",
        "text": "這方面來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/134.wav",
        "text": "我想我們要去落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/135.wav",
        "text": "依委員的指導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/136.wav",
        "text": "一定要確實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/137.wav",
        "text": "而且要平均化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/138.wav",
        "text": "不要變成被獨家所好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/139.wav",
        "text": "部長我今天為什麼會排一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/140.wav",
        "text": "保障醫護人員收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/141.wav",
        "text": "康投資等事項的這些議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/142.wav",
        "text": "其實健保的合理支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/143.wav",
        "text": "其實是不太合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/144.wav",
        "text": "我碰到有人可能要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/145.wav",
        "text": "這樣一個檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/146.wav",
        "text": "健保給付的跟檢查的成本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/147.wav",
        "text": "真的是不太合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/148.wav",
        "text": "即使一些儀器已經故障"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/149.wav",
        "text": "他們也不太願意去更新"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/150.wav",
        "text": "因為它的給付就不合理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/151.wav",
        "text": "健保應該也要去盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/152.wav",
        "text": "做什麼樣的檢查"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/153.wav",
        "text": "要支付多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/154.wav",
        "text": "我覺得健保署這邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/155.wav",
        "text": "應該要好好去做盤點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/156.wav",
        "text": "要不然大家都說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/157.wav",
        "text": "或者是藥品也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/158.wav",
        "text": "真的是很便宜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/159.wav",
        "text": "確實是讓所有醫護人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/160.wav",
        "text": "覺得這真的是滿委屈的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/161.wav",
        "text": "所以我是不是可以請教──"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/162.wav",
        "text": "──衛福部在這幾年當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/163.wav",
        "text": "雖然我們前一陣子有針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/164.wav",
        "text": "有一些補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/165.wav",
        "text": "但是造成很大的反彈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/166.wav",
        "text": "因為白班的護理人員也非常辛苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/167.wav",
        "text": "認為為什麼只有夜班的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/168.wav",
        "text": "助這個又造成醫院內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/169.wav",
        "text": "有一些滿奇怪的氛圍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/170.wav",
        "text": "那白班的護理人員覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/171.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼樣保障醫護人員的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/172.wav",
        "text": "一個是健保怎麼樣合理地支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/173.wav",
        "text": "健保的額度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/174.wav",
        "text": "而且醫療需求越來越多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/175.wav",
        "text": "這的確是會面臨到很大的困境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/176.wav",
        "text": "或者是專業團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/177.wav",
        "text": "都為這個絞盡腦汁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/178.wav",
        "text": "項目有4008百多項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/179.wav",
        "text": "健保署已經在113年6月成立支付標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/180.wav",
        "text": "衡平性評量規劃專家小組"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/181.wav",
        "text": "專科協會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/182.wav",
        "text": "通盤調整支付標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/183.wav",
        "text": "我做醫師公會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/184.wav",
        "text": "多也知道大家說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/185.wav",
        "text": "但是總額就是這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/186.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要針對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/187.wav",
        "text": "人民需要的重要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/188.wav",
        "text": "要有順序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/189.wav",
        "text": "不然只好增加健康投資"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/190.wav",
        "text": "讓人吃到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/191.wav",
        "text": "我認為你們可能要在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/192.wav",
        "text": "國民黨的委員提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/193.wav",
        "text": "點值改成1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/194.wav",
        "text": "或者是0.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/195.wav",
        "text": "未來我們要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/196.wav",
        "text": "的問題現在已經送"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/197.wav",
        "text": "未來如果表決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/198.wav",
        "text": "通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/199.wav",
        "text": "我想請教衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/200.wav",
        "text": "這勢必會增加一些預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/201.wav",
        "text": "最後要做什麼樣的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/202.wav",
        "text": "如果通過之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/203.wav",
        "text": "你們要怎麼處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/204.wav",
        "text": "法案我們當然尊重大院的決議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/205.wav",
        "text": "因為這個滿整體的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/206.wav",
        "text": "我們現在能做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/207.wav",
        "text": "的剛剛其實有報告過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/208.wav",
        "text": "健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/209.wav",
        "text": "應該屬於健保費用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/210.wav",
        "text": "我剛才講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/211.wav",
        "text": "政府要在健保出36%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/212.wav",
        "text": "可能真的給健保的只有30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/213.wav",
        "text": "這個清出來就可以多一百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/214.wav",
        "text": "你可以用其他公務項目出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/215.wav",
        "text": "清出去一年清一百零多億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/216.wav",
        "text": "這個才是真正在做事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/217.wav",
        "text": "說實在的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/218.wav",
        "text": "而不是訂了一個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/219.wav",
        "text": "是醫療院所比較在意的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/220.wav",
        "text": "健保總額的成長率才是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/221.wav",
        "text": "醫療單位需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/222.wav",
        "text": "譬如說把低推估弄到最高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/223.wav",
        "text": "高推估也移到最高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/224.wav",
        "text": "希望成長率能夠多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/225.wav",
        "text": "這才是真正讓醫療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/226.wav",
        "text": "我們一步步很踏實地做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/227.wav",
        "text": "我相信應該很快就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/228.wav",
        "text": "會讓醫療界感受到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/229.wav",
        "text": "執政黨在這方面的努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/230.wav",
        "text": "好其實衛福部的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/231.wav",
        "text": "從出生到死亡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/232.wav",
        "text": "從醫療到福利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/233.wav",
        "text": "真的是非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/234.wav",
        "text": "5月20上任到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/235.wav",
        "text": "確實還有很多需要瞭解"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/236.wav",
        "text": "我希望可以更具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/237.wav",
        "text": "真的可以看到我們期待的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/238.wav",
        "text": "就是剛剛講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/239.wav",
        "text": "你們能夠更具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154408/240.wav",
        "text": "好全力以赴"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/0.wav",
        "text": "有請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/2.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/3.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/4.wav",
        "text": "很謝謝召委今天特別安排這個專題報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/5.wav",
        "text": "讓所有的委員更清楚地知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/6.wav",
        "text": "目前衛福部針對這些重大議題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/7.wav",
        "text": "也期待未來能夠迅速地回應民眾的需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/8.wav",
        "text": "能夠有更多好的發展方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/9.wav",
        "text": "\n我們先看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/10.wav",
        "text": "透過今天的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/11.wav",
        "text": "我們到底能夠做哪些延伸"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/12.wav",
        "text": "還有在護理人力不足的相關因素之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/13.wav",
        "text": "無法滿足醫療需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/14.wav",
        "text": "另外一個比較少被提到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/15.wav",
        "text": "希望透過今天的詢答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/16.wav",
        "text": "請教你們有如何因應的對策"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/17.wav",
        "text": "我們再往下看就會發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/18.wav",
        "text": "是一個進行式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/19.wav",
        "text": "已經不是未來才會面臨的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/20.wav",
        "text": "我們也發現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/21.wav",
        "text": "或診所都很需要藥師的幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/22.wav",
        "text": "尤其在COVID-19那一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/23.wav",
        "text": "藥師協助發放口罩等提供幫助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/24.wav",
        "text": "真的很感謝藥師能夠提供非常多協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/25.wav",
        "text": "讓民眾各方面得到很大的安慰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/26.wav",
        "text": "跟好的服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/27.wav",
        "text": "前往社區藥局發展"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/28.wav",
        "text": "或者是我家人有藥師的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/29.wav",
        "text": "我相信做這樣的選擇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/30.wav",
        "text": "是非常自然的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/31.wav",
        "text": "可是我們也擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/32.wav",
        "text": "讓基層診所面臨醫療的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/33.wav",
        "text": "出現一些困難或者是困擾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/34.wav",
        "text": "不知道未來如何因應它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/35.wav",
        "text": "造成的相關影響"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/36.wav",
        "text": "部長有沒有什麼好的策略或方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/37.wav",
        "text": "藥師方面嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/38.wav",
        "text": "是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/39.wav",
        "text": "藥師人力的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/40.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/41.wav",
        "text": "你現在放的這一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/42.wav",
        "text": "既然要慢慢朝向醫藥分業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/43.wav",
        "text": "業社區藥局"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/44.wav",
        "text": "所有的藥物都要能夠儘量備齊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/45.wav",
        "text": "儘量符合民眾的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/46.wav",
        "text": "尤其是急性病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/47.wav",
        "text": "跟兒童處方"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/48.wav",
        "text": "真的會比較費時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/49.wav",
        "text": "所以拜託社區藥局能夠多多幫忙"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/50.wav",
        "text": "如果工作條件不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/51.wav",
        "text": "跟護理人員一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/52.wav",
        "text": "我們醫生也是一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/53.wav",
        "text": "大家一定會找一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/54.wav",
        "text": "就要離家近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/55.wav",
        "text": "當然我們的醫學教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/56.wav",
        "text": "百年來臺灣醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/57.wav",
        "text": "能夠駐守在第一線"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/58.wav",
        "text": "去守護偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/59.wav",
        "text": "面對瀕死的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/60.wav",
        "text": "肯在安寧病房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/61.wav",
        "text": "面對即將過世的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/62.wav",
        "text": "握著他的手照顧他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/63.wav",
        "text": "非常困難的照顧環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/64.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們醫學教育"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/65.wav",
        "text": "我相信所有醫事人員的教育都是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/66.wav",
        "text": "至於怎麼樣營造一個更好的環境"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/67.wav",
        "text": "可能有些考試的及格率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/68.wav",
        "text": "我認為也都應該要考量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/69.wav",
        "text": "因為有的人很認真讀書但"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/70.wav",
        "text": "部長我請教你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/71.wav",
        "text": "需要做適度的補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/72.wav",
        "text": "或者是需要去解決這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/73.wav",
        "text": "不知道藥師未來在這方面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/74.wav",
        "text": "有沒有相關的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/75.wav",
        "text": "也要同步去克服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/76.wav",
        "text": "最近像慈濟他們在花蓮偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/77.wav",
        "text": "他們的藥學系就有增設的機會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/78.wav",
        "text": "如果藥師短缺怎麼辦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/79.wav",
        "text": "會不會像公費醫學生一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/80.wav",
        "text": "將來會有公費藥學生類似的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/81.wav",
        "text": "因為未來不管要如何落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/82.wav",
        "text": "萬一出現人力不足的情況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/83.wav",
        "text": "我們不希望像今天一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/84.wav",
        "text": "問題出現以後才開始思考一些解決方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/85.wav",
        "text": "我想這部分可以分全國性跟區域性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/86.wav",
        "text": "合理的情況是讀得不錯的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/87.wav",
        "text": "就讓他出來社會服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/88.wav",
        "text": "每一個唸大學相關科系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/89.wav",
        "text": "的都是父母的寶貝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/90.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠多多輔導讓他能夠有工作做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/91.wav",
        "text": "而且是能夠做他專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/92.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我們都要去協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/93.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就要考選部跟各專科團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/94.wav",
        "text": "能夠站在國家的立場來思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/95.wav",
        "text": "我覺得如果把整個國家的量充實起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/96.wav",
        "text": "然後再開始鼓勵偏鄉的醫事人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/97.wav",
        "text": "不只醫生都要鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/98.wav",
        "text": "而且也要像花蓮慈濟這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/99.wav",
        "text": "培養在地的醫生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/100.wav",
        "text": "我個人過去幾年來是非常支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/101.wav",
        "text": "因為那個留任率可能可以到七成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/102.wav",
        "text": "可能不到30%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/103.wav",
        "text": "謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/104.wav",
        "text": "而且我也提過一個意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/105.wav",
        "text": "臺北市的醫療資源非常豐富"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/106.wav",
        "text": "現在看病看很少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/107.wav",
        "text": "空巢期了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/108.wav",
        "text": "可以服務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/109.wav",
        "text": "不要去做基層醫師可以做的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/110.wav",
        "text": "醫療像我們石崇良醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/111.wav",
        "text": "以後退休"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/112.wav",
        "text": "也許會恢復他急診的專業"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/113.wav",
        "text": "這也是花蓮之福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/114.wav",
        "text": "臺東之福"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/115.wav",
        "text": "大家可以一起做好的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/116.wav",
        "text": "我們也知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/117.wav",
        "text": "護理師的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/118.wav",
        "text": "剛剛部長也說明了非常多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/119.wav",
        "text": "我們也希望醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/120.wav",
        "text": "有更好的彈性工時的安排"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/121.wav",
        "text": "讓我們的護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/122.wav",
        "text": "據我瞭解醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/123.wav",
        "text": "你只要跟我說這個要給護理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/124.wav",
        "text": "人員他們怎麼會跟你拿去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/125.wav",
        "text": "呢所以將來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/126.wav",
        "text": "只要說是要給護理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/127.wav",
        "text": "人員的我覺得醫院一毛錢都不會跟你拿"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/128.wav",
        "text": "不要誤解醫院會去拿這些錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/129.wav",
        "text": "我個人瞭解過很多醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/130.wav",
        "text": "領導人的意見是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/131.wav",
        "text": "好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/132.wav",
        "text": "瑞士洛桑管理學院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/133.wav",
        "text": "國家競爭力的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/134.wav",
        "text": "名列前三"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/135.wav",
        "text": "名這個部分就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/136.wav",
        "text": "醫療保健基礎設施符合社會需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/137.wav",
        "text": "意思就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/138.wav",
        "text": "我們的硬體設備其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/139.wav",
        "text": "很有競爭力的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/140.wav",
        "text": "在已經很充分的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/141.wav",
        "text": "硬體設施包括"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/142.wav",
        "text": "醫院的設置之下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/143.wav",
        "text": "萬一新增人口需要床數增加的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/144.wav",
        "text": "在分布上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/145.wav",
        "text": "能夠在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/146.wav",
        "text": "這麼好的基礎上去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/147.wav",
        "text": "特別的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/148.wav",
        "text": "另外我們也看到醫療保健支出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/149.wav",
        "text": "占GDP的比例相對來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/150.wav",
        "text": "就差很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/151.wav",
        "text": "才占第41名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/152.wav",
        "text": "我們真的很需要有更多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/153.wav",
        "text": "醫療資源投入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/154.wav",
        "text": "這一部分也需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/155.wav",
        "text": "邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/156.wav",
        "text": "繼續努力來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/157.wav",
        "text": "相關的處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/158.wav",
        "text": "於公共衛生支出的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/159.wav",
        "text": "剛才你也已經說明得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/160.wav",
        "text": "如果有辦法把這些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/161.wav",
        "text": "相關的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/162.wav",
        "text": "做適當的盤整以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/163.wav",
        "text": "醫療需求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/164.wav",
        "text": "對GDP的占比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/165.wav",
        "text": "會有效提升到多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/166.wav",
        "text": "百分比有沒有這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/167.wav",
        "text": "這個部分應該是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/168.wav",
        "text": "王委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/169.wav",
        "text": "長期在關注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/170.wav",
        "text": "的而且你才是專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/171.wav",
        "text": "我們衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/172.wav",
        "text": "應該也必須要來盤算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/173.wav",
        "text": "因為現在都還在盤算當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/174.wav",
        "text": "但是我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/175.wav",
        "text": "只要公務預算都"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/176.wav",
        "text": "投入到公共衛生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/177.wav",
        "text": "傳染病防治預防保健的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/178.wav",
        "text": "應該就自然而然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/179.wav",
        "text": "會提升到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/180.wav",
        "text": "相當不錯的水準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/181.wav",
        "text": "好我們期待能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/182.wav",
        "text": "看到這個數字的具體呈現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/183.wav",
        "text": "那還有兩個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/184.wav",
        "text": "幫忙確認就是通訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/185.wav",
        "text": "診療其實今天就要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/186.wav",
        "text": "正式實施"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/187.wav",
        "text": "院所可能會有一些擔心的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/188.wav",
        "text": "能不能夠更有效"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/189.wav",
        "text": "的提供相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/190.wav",
        "text": "的誘因協助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/191.wav",
        "text": "受惠的民眾可以到達"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/192.wav",
        "text": "274萬人在這個過程當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/193.wav",
        "text": "可以扮演重要的角色"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/194.wav",
        "text": "的這個部分我必須要感謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/195.wav",
        "text": "院所其實是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/196.wav",
        "text": "用通訊診察用得最多的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/197.wav",
        "text": "在我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/198.wav",
        "text": "COVID疫情最困難的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/199.wav",
        "text": "以臺北市"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/200.wav",
        "text": "為例一天最高曾經到達一萬個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/201.wav",
        "text": "新北市兩萬個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/202.wav",
        "text": "這時候只要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/203.wav",
        "text": "有其中一小部分的人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/204.wav",
        "text": "因為擔心他的小孩子發燒"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/205.wav",
        "text": "或自己不舒服"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/206.wav",
        "text": "就衝到急診只要有1%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/207.wav",
        "text": "每一個急診都會爆掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/208.wav",
        "text": "但是我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/209.wav",
        "text": "通訊診療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/210.wav",
        "text": "用視訊就可"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/211.wav",
        "text": "以看他家裡小孩子的發燒狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/212.wav",
        "text": "生病狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/213.wav",
        "text": "有什麼問題可以隨時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/214.wav",
        "text": "來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/215.wav",
        "text": "這個也植基於過去二十年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/216.wav",
        "text": "醫療群家庭醫師制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/217.wav",
        "text": "大家都有一個合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/218.wav",
        "text": "診所才肯來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/219.wav",
        "text": "相關的居"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/220.wav",
        "text": "通訊診療"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/221.wav",
        "text": "穩住了國家的疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/222.wav",
        "text": "所以基層你不必擔心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/223.wav",
        "text": "他們做最多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/224.wav",
        "text": "了現在的通訊診療辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/225.wav",
        "text": "我想醫事司很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/226.wav",
        "text": "以病人為中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/227.wav",
        "text": "很方便的來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/228.wav",
        "text": "用的通訊設備會比較屬於"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/229.wav",
        "text": "照顧它原來的病人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/230.wav",
        "text": "外島等等偏鄉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/231.wav",
        "text": "特殊任務的大致上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/232.wav",
        "text": "不至於影響到基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/233.wav",
        "text": "這也是我們臺灣醫療體系"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/234.wav",
        "text": "必須要堅持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/235.wav",
        "text": "原則上就是要face to face"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/236.wav",
        "text": "就是要去瞭解你社區的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/237.wav",
        "text": "甚至他們家有養幾隻貓幾隻狗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/238.wav",
        "text": "你都知道才能夠知道他的疾病"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/239.wav",
        "text": "這是基層醫療的價值所在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/240.wav",
        "text": "如果能夠配合"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/241.wav",
        "text": "讓有些高齡化的社會或機構"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/242.wav",
        "text": "也給基層醫療來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/243.wav",
        "text": "COVID那個時候的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/244.wav",
        "text": "進步的我們把這樣的一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/245.wav",
        "text": "辦法弄到更進步"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/246.wav",
        "text": "更符合人民的需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/247.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/248.wav",
        "text": "克流感使用的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/249.wav",
        "text": "因為6月26日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/250.wav",
        "text": "又可以回歸到公費使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/251.wav",
        "text": "措手不及"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/252.wav",
        "text": "流感或類流感"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/253.wav",
        "text": "猖獗的確令人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/254.wav",
        "text": "無法預估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/255.wav",
        "text": "不過依照我們所看到的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/256.wav",
        "text": "因為重症數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/257.wav",
        "text": "並沒有緩和下來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/258.wav",
        "text": "從6月26日一直延長到7月31日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/259.wav",
        "text": "日我們期待的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/260.wav",
        "text": "如果用公費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/261.wav",
        "text": "持續來支應這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/262.wav",
        "text": "到7月31日截止之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/263.wav",
        "text": "真的緩和下來的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/264.wav",
        "text": "是不是能提前一個禮拜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/265.wav",
        "text": "就事先做個預告之類的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/266.wav",
        "text": "不管醫療機構或者是醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/267.wav",
        "text": "面對這個可能性的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/268.wav",
        "text": "將無法去適應或者是無法去掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/269.wav",
        "text": "這個部分再麻煩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/270.wav",
        "text": "邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/271.wav",
        "text": "或者是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/272.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/273.wav",
        "text": "因應疫情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/274.wav",
        "text": "從6月26日延長到7月底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/275.wav",
        "text": "主要的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/276.wav",
        "text": "是我們認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/277.wav",
        "text": "這次流感疫情大概是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/278.wav",
        "text": "逐漸下降"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/279.wav",
        "text": "我們仍然會持續擴大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/280.wav",
        "text": "我們也會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/281.wav",
        "text": "下次要再擴大之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154409/282.wav",
        "text": "讓他們能夠有所因應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/0.wav",
        "text": "主席各位委員有請部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/2.wav",
        "text": "今天衛福部的報告裡面特別提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/3.wav",
        "text": "本部將配合行政院人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/4.wav",
        "text": "研議調整公立醫院醫事人員待遇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/5.wav",
        "text": "以利羅致及留任醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/6.wav",
        "text": "請問部長這個打算怎麼去進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/7.wav",
        "text": "我想這個部分是這幾年來一直在努力的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/8.wav",
        "text": "當然各個醫院都有它必須要去突破"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/9.wav",
        "text": "是研議待遇不是變成公務人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/10.wav",
        "text": "如果只是待遇的話我們當然是在專業加給的部分把它提升"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/11.wav",
        "text": "就是專業加給的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/12.wav",
        "text": "這個部分我要特別請衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/13.wav",
        "text": "注意因為你寫配合行政院人事行政總處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/14.wav",
        "text": "它絕對不會主動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/15.wav",
        "text": "所以你們要主動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/16.wav",
        "text": "而且按照醫事人員人事條例"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/17.wav",
        "text": "規定如果要調整俸給的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/18.wav",
        "text": "所以我的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/19.wav",
        "text": "是賴總統既然要在總統府成立健康台灣推動委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/20.wav",
        "text": "願景就是要讓人民活得長壽又健康"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/21.wav",
        "text": "而且還要通過健康憲章"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/22.wav",
        "text": "中華民國法律條文裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/23.wav",
        "text": "提到的憲章只"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/24.wav",
        "text": "一個是聯合國憲章"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/25.wav",
        "text": "另外一個是奧林匹克憲章"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/26.wav",
        "text": "表示這個憲章的高度很高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/27.wav",
        "text": "然後還說要推動健康台灣深耕計畫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/28.wav",
        "text": "我的建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/29.wav",
        "text": "是剛才我講的醫事人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/30.wav",
        "text": "護理人員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/31.wav",
        "text": "尤其是偏鄉原住民族地區的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/32.wav",
        "text": "你要增加他們的專業加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/33.wav",
        "text": "剛剛說的方向是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/34.wav",
        "text": "就提報這個總統所主持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/35.wav",
        "text": "健康台灣推動委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/36.wav",
        "text": "已經跨院了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/37.wav",
        "text": "而且還會涉及行政院跟考試院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/38.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分建議部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/39.wav",
        "text": "提報到這沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/40.wav",
        "text": "沒問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/41.wav",
        "text": "我們在健康台灣論壇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/42.wav",
        "text": "的6場論壇裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/43.wav",
        "text": "好提到原住民謝謝你主動提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/44.wav",
        "text": "\n原住民族健康法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/45.wav",
        "text": "公布施行的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/46.wav",
        "text": "第1條裡面很重要的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/47.wav",
        "text": "要改善原住民族健康不平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/48.wav",
        "text": "這個已經是中華民國法律認證的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/49.wav",
        "text": "原住民族健康不平等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/50.wav",
        "text": "所以要改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/51.wav",
        "text": "原住民族健康法第2條"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/52.wav",
        "text": "當初並沒有按照本席的提案條文通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/53.wav",
        "text": "的是中央主管機關應指定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/54.wav",
        "text": "專責單位辦理原住民族健康事務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/55.wav",
        "text": "但是沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/56.wav",
        "text": "在衛生福利部的處務規程裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/57.wav",
        "text": "護理及健康照護司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/58.wav",
        "text": "事項包括原住民族地區醫事人力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/59.wav",
        "text": "與服務體系之發展及推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/60.wav",
        "text": "一個護理及健康照護司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/61.wav",
        "text": "司其實是沒有辦法去達成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/62.wav",
        "text": "整個原住民族健康不平等的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/63.wav",
        "text": "的它絕對不是護理及健康照護司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/64.wav",
        "text": "所可以支撐的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/65.wav",
        "text": "因為原住民族健康不平等的改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/66.wav",
        "text": "涉及衛福部全部10個司10個司"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/67.wav",
        "text": "部長這個部分要怎麼去推動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/68.wav",
        "text": "所以我的建議就是提到總統所主持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/69.wav",
        "text": "我相信健康台灣推動委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/70.wav",
        "text": "一定會討論這個主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/71.wav",
        "text": "提出整個原住民族健康不平等的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/72.wav",
        "text": "從人力到經費到各個層級"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/73.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/74.wav",
        "text": "可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/75.wav",
        "text": "過去多年來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/76.wav",
        "text": "我在這個地方也聆聽到很多關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/77.wav",
        "text": "原住民的立法委員們的教導"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/78.wav",
        "text": "所以我也知道大家的訴求跟努力的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/79.wav",
        "text": "而且健康台灣的確也把它列為重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/80.wav",
        "text": "雖然目前可能沒有剛剛您提到的那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/81.wav",
        "text": "令你滿意的設置"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/82.wav",
        "text": "除了會有一個跨部會的健康政策以外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154410/83.wav",
        "text": "來專門做相關的照顧工作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/0.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/1.wav",
        "text": "部長好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/2.wav",
        "text": "因為我們現在新北市很多家醫院到急診室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/3.wav",
        "text": "都要等非常久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/4.wav",
        "text": "了各家都一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/5.wav",
        "text": "三峽恩主公亞東也有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/6.wav",
        "text": "汐止國泰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/7.wav",
        "text": "我不知道部長有掌握到這個狀況嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/8.wav",
        "text": "我應該很掌握"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/9.wav",
        "text": "啦亞東醫院的急診部主任是我的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/10.wav",
        "text": "每天在跟我報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/11.wav",
        "text": "沒有沒有問你的學生"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/12.wav",
        "text": "啦我是說你有沒有瞭解我們在地方急診室都排很久的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/13.wav",
        "text": "大概排隊的狀況我們都能夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/14.wav",
        "text": "今天臺大好像100個病人在等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/15.wav",
        "text": "長庚有180個病人在等病床"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/16.wav",
        "text": "兩個醫院加起來就快300個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/17.wav",
        "text": "加上我們新北到處都在等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/18.wav",
        "text": "衛福部瞭不瞭解背後原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/19.wav",
        "text": "如果你聽臺大吳明賢院長講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/20.wav",
        "text": "這個急診的候床是日常的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/21.wav",
        "text": "沒有有變嚴重了部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/22.wav",
        "text": "有變嚴重了才會來反映嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/23.wav",
        "text": "部長不要一副事不關己"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/24.wav",
        "text": "病人每次在那邊都等很久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/25.wav",
        "text": "你知不知道原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/26.wav",
        "text": "是很重要的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/27.wav",
        "text": "你知不知道原因是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/28.wav",
        "text": "當然第一個我們的分級醫療是不是沒有落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/29.wav",
        "text": "不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/30.wav",
        "text": "部長我直接講啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/31.wav",
        "text": "因為我們也沒有很多時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/32.wav",
        "text": "護理師缺很多啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/33.wav",
        "text": "出現關床的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/34.wav",
        "text": "我想這也是一個原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/35.wav",
        "text": "大概有的是已經接近到四分之一了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/36.wav",
        "text": "等於是它的床是在那邊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/37.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/38.wav",
        "text": "所以沒有開床嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/39.wav",
        "text": "但我不曉得這個數據衛福部有嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/40.wav",
        "text": "衛福部有這個數據嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/41.wav",
        "text": "現在就整體來說到底"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/42.wav",
        "text": "臺灣的醫院關床狀況是怎樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/43.wav",
        "text": "跟看到的好像不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/44.wav",
        "text": "這是為什麼呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/45.wav",
        "text": "因為你掌握的是床數"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/46.wav",
        "text": "它有多少床嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/47.wav",
        "text": "但是實際上我們現在講的是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/48.wav",
        "text": "有床沒有用嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/49.wav",
        "text": "它要把那個病房打開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/50.wav",
        "text": "要開嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/51.wav",
        "text": "所以可不可以請衛福部去瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/52.wav",
        "text": "因為我要跟你說這個情況非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/53.wav",
        "text": "問題非常嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/54.wav",
        "text": "就影響到一般民眾看病的權益嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/55.wav",
        "text": "還有一些醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/56.wav",
        "text": "現在也是因為病房的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/57.wav",
        "text": "所以現在他們比較喜歡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/58.wav",
        "text": "叫做什麼今辦今"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/59.wav",
        "text": "出病房啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/60.wav",
        "text": "今天來看完之後趕快出去那一種"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/61.wav",
        "text": "現在好像比較流行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/62.wav",
        "text": "但一些比較嚴重的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/63.wav",
        "text": "就要在急診室等半天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/64.wav",
        "text": "所以我就說衛福部可不可以去瞭解一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/65.wav",
        "text": "這個情況好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/66.wav",
        "text": "可不可以把這數據統計出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/67.wav",
        "text": "給本席一份資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/68.wav",
        "text": "我們現在跟各地的衛生局合作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/69.wav",
        "text": "我現在跟你講大部分是因為護理師缺乏的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/70.wav",
        "text": "好像又要提高護病比"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/71.wav",
        "text": "請問一下護理師缺乏的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/72.wav",
        "text": "要怎麼解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/73.wav",
        "text": "現在衛福部要怎麼解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/74.wav",
        "text": "這個問題一直存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/75.wav",
        "text": "所以我們在今年的3月1日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/76.wav",
        "text": "行政院就通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/77.wav",
        "text": "十二大策略在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/78.wav",
        "text": "這個我都有看到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/79.wav",
        "text": "第一個緩不濟急"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/80.wav",
        "text": "第二個也沒有發揮作用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/81.wav",
        "text": "我這邊具體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/82.wav",
        "text": "建議兩點好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/83.wav",
        "text": "第一個可不可以針對一些特殊單位的護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/84.wav",
        "text": "一些護病房"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/85.wav",
        "text": "一些門診急診的護理師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/86.wav",
        "text": "給一些特殊的加給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/87.wav",
        "text": "的部分現在的教育訓練都是由各醫院自己辦理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/88.wav",
        "text": "有沒有可能衛福部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/89.wav",
        "text": "直接編預算來做這個事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/90.wav",
        "text": "有可能嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/91.wav",
        "text": "這個其實都是可以研議的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/92.wav",
        "text": "可以研議這"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/93.wav",
        "text": "我完全瞭解護理人員的心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/94.wav",
        "text": "對你也是來自於醫界我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/95.wav",
        "text": "可能都知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/96.wav",
        "text": "但因為你現在是衛福部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/97.wav",
        "text": "你覺得講太多好像感覺有點自打臉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/98.wav",
        "text": "所以不願意講出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/99.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得現在的問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/100.wav",
        "text": "我們民眾的看病權益受損了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/101.wav",
        "text": "這後面還有一個問題就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/102.wav",
        "text": "健保點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/103.wav",
        "text": "現在健保點值如果能夠提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/104.wav",
        "text": "這個問題通通解決了嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/105.wav",
        "text": "當時賴清德總統在競選的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/106.wav",
        "text": "自己講的啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/107.wav",
        "text": "他講健保點值可以朝一點一元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/108.wav",
        "text": "這個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/109.wav",
        "text": "政治人物可以這樣嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/110.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/111.wav",
        "text": "落實真正去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/112.wav",
        "text": "比較重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/113.wav",
        "text": "這樣以後大家在選舉的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/114.wav",
        "text": "隨便開空頭支票就好不用做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/115.wav",
        "text": "你來自於醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/116.wav",
        "text": "你知道很多都是因為資源的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/117.wav",
        "text": "才會衍生出這些狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/118.wav",
        "text": "如果資源夠的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/119.wav",
        "text": "何必要關床呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/120.wav",
        "text": "如果資源夠的話護理師也許不會缺乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/121.wav",
        "text": "所以這個是根本的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/122.wav",
        "text": "我們要面對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/123.wav",
        "text": "我覺得我現在要討論的已經不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/124.wav",
        "text": "好像醫生的收入要增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/125.wav",
        "text": "當然醫生的收入也會因此增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/126.wav",
        "text": "但是關鍵是這件事情影響到我們一般民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/127.wav",
        "text": "就醫的醫學品質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/128.wav",
        "text": "所以它其實是一個非常嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/129.wav",
        "text": "我們今天才會來反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/130.wav",
        "text": "因為不是只有一家醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/131.wav",
        "text": "以我們新北市來說各家醫院都面臨"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/132.wav",
        "text": "類似的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/133.wav",
        "text": "所以必須要大刀闊斧地提出一些辦法出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/134.wav",
        "text": "不知道部長可不可以解決這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/135.wav",
        "text": "在健保的費用裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/136.wav",
        "text": "我剛剛已經很具體地提過幾個方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/137.wav",
        "text": "第一個我們要把所有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/138.wav",
        "text": "應該歸入到公務預算的移出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/139.wav",
        "text": "不要占在健保的總額裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/140.wav",
        "text": "這樣健保自然就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/141.wav",
        "text": "剛剛講的那個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/142.wav",
        "text": "有關於比如說護理師缺乏"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/143.wav",
        "text": "關床率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/144.wav",
        "text": "那些資料麻煩部長提供給我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/145.wav",
        "text": "然後另外也要提醒你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/146.wav",
        "text": "一句話因為現在COVID也增加了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/147.wav",
        "text": "現在整個COVID-19又起來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/148.wav",
        "text": "了到時候你因為COVID-19的關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/149.wav",
        "text": "到時候病房又要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/150.wav",
        "text": "空一些出來去處理這個病患"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/151.wav",
        "text": "問題會更雪上加霜"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/152.wav",
        "text": "當一回事啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154411/153.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席部長有請"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/1.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/2.wav",
        "text": "委員好部長午安"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/3.wav",
        "text": "根據護理師公會的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/4.wav",
        "text": "臺灣護理師的就職率低於60%"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/5.wav",
        "text": "職業壽命只有6.5年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/6.wav",
        "text": "相比於日本的15年美國的20年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/7.wav",
        "text": "跟英國的30年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/8.wav",
        "text": "顯然流失的狀況很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/9.wav",
        "text": "每一年護理系的畢業生都有提供充足的人力補充"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/10.wav",
        "text": "但是2024年卻有高達2.4萬個缺口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/11.wav",
        "text": "代表產業勞動的環境不太好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/12.wav",
        "text": "人員流動非常快速恐怕是留不太住人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/13.wav",
        "text": "有很多護理師寧願放棄所學重新開始"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/14.wav",
        "text": "也不願意留在本行裡面這應該是一個很嚴重的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/15.wav",
        "text": "\n醫護環境尤其是基層環境的三大問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/16.wav",
        "text": "本席彙整了一下第一個叫人力不足的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/17.wav",
        "text": "第二個叫待遇不合理的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/18.wav",
        "text": "第三個叫做勞動環境惡劣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/19.wav",
        "text": "這我相信很多委員都有關心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/20.wav",
        "text": "衛福部應該也有長期試圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/21.wav",
        "text": "針對這些問題來做出改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/22.wav",
        "text": "但今天我們就針對這些改善的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/23.wav",
        "text": "跟具體的執行來做一下討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/24.wav",
        "text": "我們當然希望衛福部可以提出有效的改善方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/25.wav",
        "text": "但比如你講人力不足的這一部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/26.wav",
        "text": "政府就提供解決方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/27.wav",
        "text": "比如醫護增額如果你的護病比能夠達到標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/28.wav",
        "text": "我就給予獎勵補貼對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/29.wav",
        "text": "比如你針對待遇不合理的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/30.wav",
        "text": "你就編列了40億的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/31.wav",
        "text": "做全民健康保險強化住院護理照護夜班獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/32.wav",
        "text": "以鼓勵留任"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/33.wav",
        "text": "但部長這些不管是達標獎勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/34.wav",
        "text": "或者是夜班津貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/35.wav",
        "text": "承受承接政府預算資源的主體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/36.wav",
        "text": "應該不會是基層對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/37.wav",
        "text": "應該是醫院對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/38.wav",
        "text": "也就是說我把這錢編出來發出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/39.wav",
        "text": "是發給醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/40.wav",
        "text": "然後你期待醫院基於良心嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/41.wav",
        "text": "也許是基於政策目標嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/42.wav",
        "text": "但顯然有一些實務上的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/43.wav",
        "text": "如果說這個機制真的那麼有效的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/44.wav",
        "text": "也許我們基層護理缺工的問題都解決了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/45.wav",
        "text": "所以部長是不是同意"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/46.wav",
        "text": "這個也許在一些細節方面有一些精進的必要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/47.wav",
        "text": "我相信這些錢全部應該都是到護理的身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/48.wav",
        "text": "但是這樣還不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/49.wav",
        "text": "我覺得護理人員應該有更多的鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/50.wav",
        "text": "好這個我們就提幾個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/51.wav",
        "text": "第一個是有關於護病比的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/52.wav",
        "text": "了可是尤其是基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/53.wav",
        "text": "有些是透過血汗勞工記者會的方式來呈現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/54.wav",
        "text": "有些是透過公會來發聲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/55.wav",
        "text": "其實他們都有若干的反映"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/56.wav",
        "text": "就是說你這個護病比其實有些失真"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/57.wav",
        "text": "\n醫院不見得有辦法做出漂亮的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/58.wav",
        "text": "但是這個數據真的精準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/59.wav",
        "text": "嗎你現在用全日護病比的方式來計算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/60.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不是用三班護病比的方式來計算呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/61.wav",
        "text": "第二個不管是用全日或者是三班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/62.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼去避免這些醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/63.wav",
        "text": "基於要拿到更多的津貼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/64.wav",
        "text": "或者是要規避一些監督"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/65.wav",
        "text": "然後有一些數據不精準的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/66.wav",
        "text": "請問衛福部針對這樣的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/67.wav",
        "text": "有沒有提出解決的方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/68.wav",
        "text": "醫護三班醫院三班"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/69.wav",
        "text": "說實在達到率也是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/70.wav",
        "text": "譬如醫學中心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/71.wav",
        "text": "地區醫院也差不多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/72.wav",
        "text": "所以其實還是有很多改善的空間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/73.wav",
        "text": "我們主張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/74.wav",
        "text": "資料的建置要清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/75.wav",
        "text": "讓真實的狀況可以體現"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/76.wav",
        "text": "這我們第一個建議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/77.wav",
        "text": "第二個建議是相關來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/78.wav",
        "text": "懲罰的機制要思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/79.wav",
        "text": "因為按照現行的懲罰機制好像不痛不癢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/80.wav",
        "text": "罰個5萬還是6萬對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/81.wav",
        "text": "這個真的有嚇阻的效果嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/82.wav",
        "text": "衛福部這邊針對懲罰的機制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/83.wav",
        "text": "檢討跟改善的打算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/84.wav",
        "text": "懲戒的部分如果他們不配合的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/85.wav",
        "text": "因為我剛剛有講我們資源都給醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/86.wav",
        "text": "醫院沒有照章行事我要怎麼懲罰"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/87.wav",
        "text": "先鼓勵"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/88.wav",
        "text": "啦然後要公開透明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/89.wav",
        "text": "沒關係因為今天時間有限"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/90.wav",
        "text": "你把相關的這些資料包含我怎麼樣落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/91.wav",
        "text": "三班護病比的資料公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/92.wav",
        "text": "第二個懲罰機制要怎麼樣做改進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/93.wav",
        "text": "再來我們也不要只講醫護"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/94.wav",
        "text": "因為醫院也有很多人叫苦連天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/95.wav",
        "text": "說環境不好健保等等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/96.wav",
        "text": "這就要回到點值的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/97.wav",
        "text": "現在點值的問題到底還有什麼好講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/98.wav",
        "text": "當然就是要給它提高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/99.wav",
        "text": "你也講要讓醫院的營運環境改善"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/100.wav",
        "text": "雙管齊下嘛我一方面改善了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/101.wav",
        "text": "醫院的營運環境讓它有足夠的收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/102.wav",
        "text": "二方面我在政策方面做細節的精進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/103.wav",
        "text": "讓這些資源可以有效地到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/104.wav",
        "text": "基層醫護的身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/105.wav",
        "text": "這樣才能夠解決問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/106.wav",
        "text": "嘛那點值的部分到底還有什麼好客氣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/107.wav",
        "text": "的因為賴清德總統也講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/108.wav",
        "text": "了0.9目標是1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/109.wav",
        "text": "對不對難道沒有這樣子的一個宣示嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/110.wav",
        "text": "了喔包括把我剛剛跟委員報告的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/111.wav",
        "text": "我們把公務預算移出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/112.wav",
        "text": "健保然後健保就會比較多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/113.wav",
        "text": "我們也創造歷年有史以來最大的成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/114.wav",
        "text": "點值最好的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/115.wav",
        "text": "這個修法的部分大家各有各的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/116.wav",
        "text": "我們當然就是支持在野黨的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/117.wav",
        "text": "但是如果衛福部有一些相關"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/118.wav",
        "text": "政策配套的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/119.wav",
        "text": "我也希望你會後提供書面資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/120.wav",
        "text": "包含時間表在內"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/121.wav",
        "text": "最後一點點時間我要問一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/122.wav",
        "text": "菸防法的修正已經16個月了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/123.wav",
        "text": "健康風險評估"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/124.wav",
        "text": "現在好像還沒有公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/125.wav",
        "text": "布我會提這個的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/126.wav",
        "text": "不是說我要破壞你審查的獨立性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/127.wav",
        "text": "也不是要干預你的時程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/128.wav",
        "text": "但是因為6月29號又抓到走私"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/129.wav",
        "text": "有十幾萬條又跑進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/130.wav",
        "text": "走私表示問題存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/131.wav",
        "text": "先讓國人瞭解健康風險的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/132.wav",
        "text": "我想這個相關的資訊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/133.wav",
        "text": "吳署長非常清楚可以跟我們簡要報告一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/134.wav",
        "text": "報告委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/135.wav",
        "text": "我們目前每個月大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/136.wav",
        "text": "開三到四次的審查會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/137.wav",
        "text": "只要業者符合我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/138.wav",
        "text": "當初要求他提的資料"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/139.wav",
        "text": "能夠說服委員的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/140.wav",
        "text": "我們最後的結果就會公"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/141.wav",
        "text": "這是叫最後結果部長有一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/142.wav",
        "text": "前期的也許跟健康風險有關的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/143.wav",
        "text": "已經先有結論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/144.wav",
        "text": "其實我認為可以分階段先行公布"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/145.wav",
        "text": "這在技術上有困難嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/146.wav",
        "text": "還是要尊重委員的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/147.wav",
        "text": "這個我希望部長也審慎思考"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/148.wav",
        "text": "因為我講的純粹是從風險知情權的角度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/149.wav",
        "text": "這件事情請衛福部妥予研議再予以回好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154412/150.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/0.wav",
        "text": "召委剛剛提出來那9家藥廠16個藥證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/1.wav",
        "text": "的名單是不是可以給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/2.wav",
        "text": "今天來參與會議的所有委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/3.wav",
        "text": "剛剛剛剛是食藥署提出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/4.wav",
        "text": "可以嗎好那給在場的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/5.wav",
        "text": "到時候給今天有來質詢的委員所有的委員都要提供一份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/6.wav",
        "text": "\n我是不是可以請部長謝謝請邱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/7.wav",
        "text": "部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/8.wav",
        "text": "委員好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/9.wav",
        "text": "馬上又高升為太空人內閣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/10.wav",
        "text": "這個很重要這個很重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/11.wav",
        "text": "因為我只有5分鐘"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/12.wav",
        "text": "為了因應健保點值的修法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/13.wav",
        "text": "我們最近有提到未來要成立癌藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/14.wav",
        "text": "未來用公務預算撥補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/15.wav",
        "text": "除了癌藥基金之外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/16.wav",
        "text": "還有公共衛生性質相關的項目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/17.wav",
        "text": "未來都有可能用公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/18.wav",
        "text": "部長這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/19.wav",
        "text": "因為牽涉到9月份"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/20.wav",
        "text": "我們馬上就要處理健保總額的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/21.wav",
        "text": "還有下個會期我們就要審查預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/22.wav",
        "text": "到底這一塊你心裡有沒有去跟行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/23.wav",
        "text": "或跟主計處溝通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/24.wav",
        "text": "如果是明年的癌藥基金大概就是60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/25.wav",
        "text": "第3年才會100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/26.wav",
        "text": "因為要依需要其實今年才24億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/27.wav",
        "text": "不是說一下子就馬上需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/28.wav",
        "text": "那明年到底是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/29.wav",
        "text": "明年就60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/30.wav",
        "text": "公衛預算呢公共衛生性質"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/31.wav",
        "text": "公共衛生預算現在有兩"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/32.wav",
        "text": "我今天說很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/33.wav",
        "text": "了第一個有些其他的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/34.wav",
        "text": "都把它塞到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/35.wav",
        "text": "應該政府要給健保36%的那個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/36.wav",
        "text": "這個把它清出來大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/37.wav",
        "text": "103十幾億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/38.wav",
        "text": "14140億左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/39.wav",
        "text": "所以明年從健保可以挖出140億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/40.wav",
        "text": "就是不要把我們算過來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/41.wav",
        "text": "說這是應該要給健保的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/42.wav",
        "text": "這個部分就可以多140億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/43.wav",
        "text": "然後有一些過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/44.wav",
        "text": "部長我問清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/45.wav",
        "text": "140億是公共衛生性質的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/46.wav",
        "text": "60億是癌藥基金的預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/47.wav",
        "text": "加起來200億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/48.wav",
        "text": "癌藥基金是60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/49.wav",
        "text": "60億所以加起來200億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/50.wav",
        "text": "那個是獨立的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/51.wav",
        "text": "是為了這個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/52.wav",
        "text": "對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/53.wav",
        "text": "用公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/54.wav",
        "text": "然後可以增加健保庫的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/55.wav",
        "text": "在癌藥基金的話我相信"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/56.wav",
        "text": "沒關係你跟我說總數有多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/57.wav",
        "text": "因為這個會牽涉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/58.wav",
        "text": "未來9月份我們健保協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/59.wav",
        "text": "到底我們有多少錢可以拿出來再做分配"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/60.wav",
        "text": "好現在講的都是收入"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/61.wav",
        "text": "面讓整個健保的大水庫能夠增加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/62.wav",
        "text": "部長你就直接跟我說36"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/63.wav",
        "text": "然後另外就是我們開始清一些"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/64.wav",
        "text": "過去用健保但其實應該要用公務預算的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/65.wav",
        "text": "我們分3年把它完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/66.wav",
        "text": "一百零億出頭應該沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/67.wav",
        "text": "所以這兩個就可以多200億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/68.wav",
        "text": "200億左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/69.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/70.wav",
        "text": "這個我得到答案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/71.wav",
        "text": "了所以明年9月份再協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/72.wav",
        "text": "我們知道有多勻出200億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/73.wav",
        "text": "可以在健保裡面好好的協商"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/74.wav",
        "text": "\n部長我延續一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/75.wav",
        "text": "剛剛林淑芬委員的質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/76.wav",
        "text": "其實大家也知道缺藥跟缺人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/77.wav",
        "text": "大概是吳署長最後下臺最主要的原因"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/78.wav",
        "text": "無論在這一段時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/79.wav",
        "text": "無論這些用藥缺藥的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/80.wav",
        "text": "其實缺人缺藥是醫界長期的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/81.wav",
        "text": "但是最近的缺藥卻特別嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/82.wav",
        "text": "部長你看我的下一張"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/83.wav",
        "text": "簡報這個是一年前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/84.wav",
        "text": "當時缺藥所提出來的解決方案"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/85.wav",
        "text": "一樣是分短中長期"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/86.wav",
        "text": "這套在最近這一段時間缺藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/87.wav",
        "text": "的狀況無論是衛福部對外的說明也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/88.wav",
        "text": "還是從林次長講的用心良苦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/89.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得整體在外界觀感上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/90.wav",
        "text": "衛福部會讓外界認為對於解決缺藥問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/91.wav",
        "text": "你們是交了一張白卷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/92.wav",
        "text": "說了等於沒有說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/93.wav",
        "text": "所以剛才林淑芬提出來的就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/94.wav",
        "text": "占率高但是都是寡占市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/95.wav",
        "text": "衛福部處理的方向是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/96.wav",
        "text": "你們剛剛說你們會設立高風險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/97.wav",
        "text": "衛福部長期就是寡占市場的幫兇"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/98.wav",
        "text": "為什麼我們會讓這些單一市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/99.wav",
        "text": "超過六成也好超過八成也好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/100.wav",
        "text": "我們解決它變單一市場的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/101.wav",
        "text": "解決的方案到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/102.wav",
        "text": "這是剛才林淑芬關注的重點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/103.wav",
        "text": "也是我今天要關注的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/104.wav",
        "text": "我們常常在說韌性臺灣韌性臺灣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/105.wav",
        "text": "但是我們連一個生理食鹽水"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/106.wav",
        "text": "供給的方式都這麼的脆弱"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/107.wav",
        "text": "在疫情時間我們強化說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/108.wav",
        "text": "我們Taiwan can help"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/109.wav",
        "text": "但我們現在變成Taiwan needs help"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/110.wav",
        "text": "所以外界才會批評"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/111.wav",
        "text": "我們缺藥的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/112.wav",
        "text": "好像是太空人內閣的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/113.wav",
        "text": "我不希望這個是由衛福部掛名"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/114.wav",
        "text": "因為我知道你很用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/115.wav",
        "text": "部長我知道你很用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/116.wav",
        "text": "但是解決的方法到底是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/117.wav",
        "text": "我想缺藥的原因太多了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/118.wav",
        "text": "所以真的是要部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/119.wav",
        "text": "部長但是你們之前還花了3億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/120.wav",
        "text": "要好好的用藥價的調整"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/121.wav",
        "text": "讓更多人願意進來這個市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/122.wav",
        "text": "我們還花了公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/123.wav",
        "text": "花了健保3億元來解決"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/124.wav",
        "text": "解決的結果等於是零"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/125.wav",
        "text": "所以我才會說你交了一張白卷"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/126.wav",
        "text": "可不可以請健保署跟食藥署講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/127.wav",
        "text": "最近大家努力的好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/128.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告過去有些缺藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/129.wav",
        "text": "它是屬於原廠藥的退出"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/130.wav",
        "text": "都有國內的學名藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/131.wav",
        "text": "或者是相關的替代藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/132.wav",
        "text": "你不用跟我講過去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/133.wav",
        "text": "我剛才列了一大堆藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/134.wav",
        "text": "無論是白內障用藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/135.wav",
        "text": "其實狀況都擺在眼前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/136.wav",
        "text": "前面這一些藥都是有替代藥品"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/137.wav",
        "text": "這些都是學名藥可以用的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/138.wav",
        "text": "而輸液是因為短期的產線出了問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/139.wav",
        "text": "這個已經有從專案的進口"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/140.wav",
        "text": "調整價格去增加國內的產量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/141.wav",
        "text": "有多軌在進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/142.wav",
        "text": "署長這個示警永豐化學藥廠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/143.wav",
        "text": "的市占率用得這麼頻繁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/144.wav",
        "text": "然後它又是寡占市場"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/145.wav",
        "text": "你們停掉的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/146.wav",
        "text": "它固然違反GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/147.wav",
        "text": "我也覺得執行得沒錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/148.wav",
        "text": "但是你們都沒有去做完整的規劃跟處理"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/149.wav",
        "text": "才會造成今天的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/150.wav",
        "text": "平常其他的缺藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/151.wav",
        "text": "你們都有示警狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/152.wav",
        "text": "但缺藥的狀況還是非常頻繁"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/153.wav",
        "text": "這就是今天攤在這邊的問題所在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/154.wav",
        "text": "這麼多來質詢關注臺灣現在缺藥問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/155.wav",
        "text": "的委員這就是你們最大的責任和過失"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/156.wav",
        "text": "所以部長我們還是期待"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/157.wav",
        "text": "跟委員說明"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/158.wav",
        "text": "我們健保一共給付的藥品超過一萬三千多項"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/159.wav",
        "text": "但每年會有這樣的缺藥情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/160.wav",
        "text": "這個數目相較之下是少的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/161.wav",
        "text": "數目"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/162.wav",
        "text": "報告委員我想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/163.wav",
        "text": "我用藥這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/164.wav",
        "text": "但這些都是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/165.wav",
        "text": "部長就知道這些用藥其實是大家常常都聽得到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/166.wav",
        "text": "我完全瞭解醫療院所"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/167.wav",
        "text": "真的很瞭解醫療院所的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/168.wav",
        "text": "真的醫療院所很希望給人民最好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/169.wav",
        "text": "最周全的藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/170.wav",
        "text": "如果缺藥他們也都會反映到我們這邊來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/171.wav",
        "text": "所以這個問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/172.wav",
        "text": "部長提出一個好的方法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/173.wav",
        "text": "次長寫好的臉書也是等於零沒有用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/174.wav",
        "text": "才是真正造福所有的民眾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/175.wav",
        "text": "是的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/176.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154414/177.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝李彥秀委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席以及各位先進"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/1.wav",
        "text": "有請衛福部邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/2.wav",
        "text": "請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/3.wav",
        "text": "部長你上台後這是我第一次跟你質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/4.wav",
        "text": "謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/5.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要來跟你質詢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/6.wav",
        "text": "因為過去8年你在立法院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/7.wav",
        "text": "給人家的印象就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/8.wav",
        "text": "人人好E"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/9.wav",
        "text": "踫到人笑嘻嘻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/10.wav",
        "text": "嘻嘻看起來像彌勒佛一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/11.wav",
        "text": "大家都覺得你很好相處"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/12.wav",
        "text": "相處言外之意就是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/13.wav",
        "text": "你沒什麼魄力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/14.wav",
        "text": "這次你把吳秀梅開掉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/15.wav",
        "text": "我跟你說讚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/16.wav",
        "text": "老實講吳秀梅是衛福部的一個毒瘤在那裡"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/17.wav",
        "text": "他犯的錯罄竹難書啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/18.wav",
        "text": "光是EUA的過程就"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/19.wav",
        "text": "一塌糊塗"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/20.wav",
        "text": "完全就是用意識形態在施政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/21.wav",
        "text": "但是以你來講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/22.wav",
        "text": "他很認真用心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/23.wav",
        "text": "那為什麼讓他下來呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/24.wav",
        "text": "讓他繼續做就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/25.wav",
        "text": "因為這方面的人才很多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/26.wav",
        "text": "他提出辭呈"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/27.wav",
        "text": "這是他的人生規劃啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/28.wav",
        "text": "他跟你提辭呈了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/29.wav",
        "text": "因為要歸建回去7"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/30.wav",
        "text": "7年還沒有到8"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/31.wav",
        "text": "8年才到啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/32.wav",
        "text": "總共可以8年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/33.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/34.wav",
        "text": "這個你可以不必回答"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/35.wav",
        "text": "我只是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/36.wav",
        "text": "你這樣做是正確的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/37.wav",
        "text": "我是高度質疑的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/38.wav",
        "text": "以你的個性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/39.wav",
        "text": "你也不會得罪人所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/40.wav",
        "text": "所以這一定是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/41.wav",
        "text": "民進黨高層叫你動刀"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/42.wav",
        "text": "簡單來講就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/43.wav",
        "text": "對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/44.wav",
        "text": "不然的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/45.wav",
        "text": "他提辭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/46.wav",
        "text": "你一樣可以不准"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/47.wav",
        "text": "因為背後老闆要他繼續做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/48.wav",
        "text": "現在是背後老闆不要他做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/49.wav",
        "text": "他犯了太多錯誤"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/50.wav",
        "text": "這件事情今天沒有時間細講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/51.wav",
        "text": "回過來討論今天的主題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/52.wav",
        "text": "有些醫學中心只有0.8多而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/53.wav",
        "text": "對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/54.wav",
        "text": "臺大是多少你跟我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/55.wav",
        "text": "臺大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/56.wav",
        "text": "1點是多少錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/57.wav",
        "text": "平均點值都超過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/58.wav",
        "text": "臺大是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/59.wav",
        "text": "醫院總額嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/60.wav",
        "text": "對啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/61.wav",
        "text": "醫院的平均點值是有超過據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/62.wav",
        "text": "那是浮動點值"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/63.wav",
        "text": "來說明一下第一季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/64.wav",
        "text": ".91北區是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/65.wav",
        "text": "醫院的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/66.wav",
        "text": "這麼重要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/67.wav",
        "text": "這是最近"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/68.wav",
        "text": "來的基層比較低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/69.wav",
        "text": "有些地方比較高"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/70.wav",
        "text": "有些區域比較低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/71.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/72.wav",
        "text": "賴總統是希望1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/73.wav",
        "text": "不要說什麼點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/74.wav",
        "text": "就是錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/75.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/76.wav",
        "text": "你要訂一個目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/77.wav",
        "text": "你說你要達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/78.wav",
        "text": "我們當然都很希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/79.wav",
        "text": "點值能夠1點1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/80.wav",
        "text": "但是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/81.wav",
        "text": "要考慮到整個總額的精神"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/82.wav",
        "text": "及民眾的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/83.wav",
        "text": "你告訴我一個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/84.wav",
        "text": "努力的目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/85.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/86.wav",
        "text": "大概"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/87.wav",
        "text": "3年可以吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/88.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/89.wav",
        "text": "相信你很瞭解醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/90.wav",
        "text": "總額制度你也很"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/91.wav",
        "text": "你是財政專家"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/92.wav",
        "text": "總額制度大概很難到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/93.wav",
        "text": "1點1元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/94.wav",
        "text": "我知道就是1點1塊嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/95.wav",
        "text": "所以才會有零點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/96.wav",
        "text": "但是我覺得"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/97.wav",
        "text": "保0.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/98.wav",
        "text": "0是基本要做的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/99.wav",
        "text": "然後從0.9"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/100.wav",
        "text": "0開始我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/101.wav",
        "text": "0.9是地板"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/102.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以做到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/103.wav",
        "text": "你聽懂我的意思嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/104.wav",
        "text": "0.8是這樣子的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/105.wav",
        "text": "的跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/106.wav",
        "text": "那個不一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/107.wav",
        "text": "像臺北區就比較低"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/108.wav",
        "text": "沒有達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/109.wav",
        "text": "其他4區是有達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/110.wav",
        "text": "所以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/111.wav",
        "text": "什麼時候可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/112.wav",
        "text": "6區全部達到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/113.wav",
        "text": "這個會牽涉到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/114.wav",
        "text": "那個不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/115.wav",
        "text": "所以你沒辦法給我答案0"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/116.wav",
        "text": "0.9都保不了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/117.wav",
        "text": "你還說1塊錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/118.wav",
        "text": "後來去補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/119.wav",
        "text": "讓所有的醫院跟基層"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/120.wav",
        "text": "所以要補到0."
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/121.wav",
        "text": "0.9並不是困難的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/122.wav",
        "text": "大家願意去補"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/123.wav",
        "text": "去年就是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/124.wav",
        "text": "臺大醫院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/125.wav",
        "text": "去年第二季"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/126.wav",
        "text": "就是因為我們補了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/127.wav",
        "text": "它就是盈餘那些錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/128.wav",
        "text": "剛剛有提到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/129.wav",
        "text": "請你再講一遍你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/130.wav",
        "text": "未來兩年內不會漲健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/131.wav",
        "text": "費是不是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/132.wav",
        "text": "會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/133.wav",
        "text": "人民的健保費我們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/134.wav",
        "text": "會儘量在堅持不漲的情況之下來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/135.wav",
        "text": "兩年內不會漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/136.wav",
        "text": "這句話對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/137.wav",
        "text": "當然朝這樣來努力"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/138.wav",
        "text": "對吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/139.wav",
        "text": "漲不要講兩年"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/140.wav",
        "text": "今年一定不會漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/141.wav",
        "text": "明年一定不會漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/142.wav",
        "text": "可以這樣講嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/143.wav",
        "text": "今年不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/144.wav",
        "text": "明年也不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/145.wav",
        "text": "明年我們全力讓它不要你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/146.wav",
        "text": "你這樣講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/147.wav",
        "text": "明年不會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/148.wav",
        "text": "因為我們的安全準備金還夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/149.wav",
        "text": "夠不夠"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/150.wav",
        "text": "大概有兩個月"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/151.wav",
        "text": "所以基本上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/152.wav",
        "text": "今年跟明年應該都不至於漲"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/153.wav",
        "text": "那當然就是另外一回事健"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/154.wav",
        "text": "保一年的支出多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/155.wav",
        "text": "有沒有9,000億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/156.wav",
        "text": "明年預估是9,100億左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/157.wav",
        "text": "是有成長率"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/158.wav",
        "text": "我要請教你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/159.wav",
        "text": "再生醫療法通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/160.wav",
        "text": "了依照第十四條後續制定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/161.wav",
        "text": "在協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/162.wav",
        "text": "有人提到說奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/163.wav",
        "text": "牛的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/164.wav",
        "text": "都要GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/165.wav",
        "text": "為什麼細胞療法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/166.wav",
        "text": "打到人的身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/167.wav",
        "text": "不用GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/168.wav",
        "text": "為什麼這樣子呢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/169.wav",
        "text": "現在不是已經要求要了嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/170.wav",
        "text": "法沒有這樣訂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/171.wav",
        "text": "喔根據藥品優良製造"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/172.wav",
        "text": "規範以及西藥優良運銷準則"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/173.wav",
        "text": "全世界都是這樣子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/174.wav",
        "text": "我們的再生醫療法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/175.wav",
        "text": "沒有把GMP加進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/176.wav",
        "text": "因為目前屬於商品類的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/177.wav",
        "text": "都是屬於要走GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/178.wav",
        "text": "製劑那一條路"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/179.wav",
        "text": "就是自己培養出來的東西"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/180.wav",
        "text": "就是自體化使用的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/181.wav",
        "text": "它沒辦法做商品化它"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/182.wav",
        "text": "它是客製化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/183.wav",
        "text": "所以我們要求它的實驗室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/184.wav",
        "text": "至少要是GTP等級的實驗室"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/185.wav",
        "text": "GTP等級就比較低了啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/186.wav",
        "text": "在實驗室培養以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/187.wav",
        "text": "今天部長講了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/188.wav",
        "text": "很多的努力目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/189.wav",
        "text": "要不要把這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/190.wav",
        "text": "當做你們未來的努力目標"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/191.wav",
        "text": "未來就是通通要GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/192.wav",
        "text": "其實也可以跟國際接軌"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/193.wav",
        "text": "國際都有GMP啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/194.wav",
        "text": "同意嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/195.wav",
        "text": "努力目標可以吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/196.wav",
        "text": "這個要看臨床實際上的狀況"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/197.wav",
        "text": "臨床就需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/198.wav",
        "text": "這麼是不是會影響到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/199.wav",
        "text": "他用到病人的權利"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/200.wav",
        "text": "那就不要做啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/201.wav",
        "text": "如果這樣就不要做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/202.wav",
        "text": "因為你可以想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/203.wav",
        "text": "打到貓狗豬上面都要GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/204.wav",
        "text": "打到人不要要求GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/205.wav",
        "text": "那個是大量的製"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/206.wav",
        "text": "這是客製化"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/207.wav",
        "text": "就是針對他的細胞"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/208.wav",
        "text": "基本上是沒有用到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/209.wav",
        "text": "其他人的身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/210.wav",
        "text": "所以它跟製劑大量的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/211.wav",
        "text": "不太一樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/212.wav",
        "text": "可是其他國家都要求"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/213.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/214.wav",
        "text": "其實日本跟我們現在的制度"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/215.wav",
        "text": "有點相似"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/216.wav",
        "text": "也就是雙軌制"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/217.wav",
        "text": "有一些是比較低風險的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/218.wav",
        "text": "個人使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/219.wav",
        "text": "自己的細胞自己回輸的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/220.wav",
        "text": "是客製化少量"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/221.wav",
        "text": "自己的細胞就GTP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/222.wav",
        "text": "但是大量的就是GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/223.wav",
        "text": "對如果商品化液體的使用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/224.wav",
        "text": "那個就要G MP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/225.wav",
        "text": "應該講一下就是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/226.wav",
        "text": "我們說明欄有寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/227.wav",
        "text": "大量的外面的這些藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/228.wav",
        "text": "這個要GMP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/229.wav",
        "text": "客製化的GTP"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/230.wav",
        "text": "這個要講清楚好不好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154416/231.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/0.wav",
        "text": "謝謝主席麻煩請部長請邱部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/1.wav",
        "text": "它也恰恰地點出了在野黨提案補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/2.wav",
        "text": "老人健保費所帶來的一些問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/3.wav",
        "text": "我絕對是大力支持的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/4.wav",
        "text": "本席在衛環委員會質詢了很多次"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/5.wav",
        "text": "也要求衛福部應該要擴大對經濟弱勢長者的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/6.wav",
        "text": "可是在這個專題報導裡面講得非常清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/7.wav",
        "text": "在野黨現在的提案幾乎完全是一種齊頭式的補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/8.wav",
        "text": "這對年輕人來講是一個世代正義的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/9.wav",
        "text": "中低收入戶的認定標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/10.wav",
        "text": "依照各縣市公布的最低生活費的基準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/11.wav",
        "text": "家庭平均收入低於最低生活費是低收入戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/12.wav",
        "text": "家庭平均收入低於最低生活費的1.5倍是中低收入戶"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/13.wav",
        "text": "這些都是我們減免健保的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/14.wav",
        "text": "甚至本席認為應該把1.5倍提高到2倍"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/15.wav",
        "text": "作為我們補助的標準"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/16.wav",
        "text": "以上我所提的其實我主要還是要強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/17.wav",
        "text": "由經濟弱勢的底層往上去檢討"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/18.wav",
        "text": "然後擴大補助的可能性"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/19.wav",
        "text": "才是真正照顧弱勢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/20.wav",
        "text": "而且符合公平正義的一個正確模式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/21.wav",
        "text": "不知道部長對於我剛剛的講法認不認同"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/22.wav",
        "text": "完全支持"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/23.wav",
        "text": "好謝謝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/24.wav",
        "text": "然後往上去檢討政府應該要幫助的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/25.wav",
        "text": "才是正確的一個政策方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/26.wav",
        "text": "可是在野黨現在提案的是這樣的一個圖"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/27.wav",
        "text": "我們來看一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/28.wav",
        "text": "它是只有去掉金字塔頂端的這些長者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/29.wav",
        "text": "其他是無差別式地全部列入補助的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/30.wav",
        "text": "這將會發生非常大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/31.wav",
        "text": "長者在退休之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/32.wav",
        "text": "大部分他們的健保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/33.wav",
        "text": "所以探討經濟的狀況可能"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/34.wav",
        "text": "我們必須要去檢視整個家庭的情形"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/35.wav",
        "text": "臺灣家庭財富的中位數是894萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/36.wav",
        "text": "有83%的長者是全部補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/37.wav",
        "text": "在這83%長者的家庭當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/38.wav",
        "text": "如果家庭財富超過2,000萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/39.wav",
        "text": "我們補助他健保費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/40.wav",
        "text": "部長你覺得這樣子合理嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/41.wav",
        "text": "合適嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/42.wav",
        "text": "這83%的長者當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/43.wav",
        "text": "假設他的存款超過200萬元"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/44.wav",
        "text": "甚至有更多好幾百萬甚至破千萬這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/45.wav",
        "text": "長者可能不只是生活無憂"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/46.wav",
        "text": "像這樣的狀況我們也要補助他們健保費嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/47.wav",
        "text": "應該不需要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/48.wav",
        "text": "如果這些長者在都會區"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/49.wav",
        "text": "有兩棟三棟甚至好幾棟更多的房子"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/50.wav",
        "text": "我們還要補助他健保費嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/51.wav",
        "text": "應該不用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/52.wav",
        "text": "我們要擴大對弱勢長者的照顧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/53.wav",
        "text": "絕對是一個正確的方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/54.wav",
        "text": "不論是不是會直接影響到健保的財政"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/55.wav",
        "text": "但絕對絕對是增加未來年輕人的負擔"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/56.wav",
        "text": "所以我必須要在這裡強調"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/57.wav",
        "text": "在野黨提案的內容"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/58.wav",
        "text": "有很多可能是政府編列預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/59.wav",
        "text": "但是拿有限的資源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/60.wav",
        "text": "去補助經濟優渥的家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/61.wav",
        "text": "所以部長你認不認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/62.wav",
        "text": "這樣是一個很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/63.wav",
        "text": "當然是很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/64.wav",
        "text": "的其實我提到的這些都是有所本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/65.wav",
        "text": "也都是可以被統計出來的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/66.wav",
        "text": "甚至還有其他經濟狀況的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/67.wav",
        "text": "我很早就跟衛福部說了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/68.wav",
        "text": "衛福部應該要把這些統計數據全部拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/69.wav",
        "text": "讓在野黨讓所有的民眾知道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/70.wav",
        "text": "在他們的提案當中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/71.wav",
        "text": "有多少經費是去補助到這些經濟優渥的家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/72.wav",
        "text": "他們的提案要補助的對象"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/73.wav",
        "text": "有多少是擁有兩棟三棟房子的家庭"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/74.wav",
        "text": "這種濫用國家公帑的行為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/75.wav",
        "text": "我覺得這些經濟狀況優渥的長者"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/76.wav",
        "text": "有可能得到補助之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/77.wav",
        "text": "甚至搞不好他們不會去感謝這些提案的委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/78.wav",
        "text": "反而會認為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/79.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不把這些錢"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/80.wav",
        "text": "用在更需要幫助的人身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/81.wav",
        "text": "關於這些數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/82.wav",
        "text": "跟相關部會整理出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/83.wav",
        "text": "在院長主持協商的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/84.wav",
        "text": "你們可以提出這些有利的證據作為佐證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/85.wav",
        "text": "我其實在更早之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/86.wav",
        "text": "你們有遇到什麼樣的困難"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/87.wav",
        "text": "的我們可以儘快拿到這些數據來佐證"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/88.wav",
        "text": "我們相關的部門"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/89.wav",
        "text": "其實一直在蒐集相關的數據"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/90.wav",
        "text": "是不是會牽涉到個人隱私的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/91.wav",
        "text": "我再確認一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/92.wav",
        "text": "能拿多少就拿多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/93.wav",
        "text": "第二個其實這是簡單的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/94.wav",
        "text": "如果是要求淨稅20%以上的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/95.wav",
        "text": "部分根據我們的統計"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/96.wav",
        "text": "可能是每個月15萬"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/97.wav",
        "text": "可是現在年輕人"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/98.wav",
        "text": "的收入中位數差不多3萬7,5"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/99.wav",
        "text": "月入15萬的不用還要去補助他"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/100.wav",
        "text": "其實這對世代正義是不好的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/101.wav",
        "text": "所以這是很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/102.wav",
        "text": "我們在提一個案子的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/103.wav",
        "text": "也需要面面俱到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/104.wav",
        "text": "在少子化之後壓力也是越來越重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/105.wav",
        "text": "所以這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/106.wav",
        "text": "還是要請各位委員三思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/107.wav",
        "text": "這個數據拜託你們"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154417/108.wav",
        "text": "可以用力的趕快在一週內調出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/0.wav",
        "text": "每件事情都事關重大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/1.wav",
        "text": "也代表部長的責任非常非常之重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/2.wav",
        "text": "也非常清楚這一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/3.wav",
        "text": "所以在2022年的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/4.wav",
        "text": "病友團體共同提出臺灣百億癌症新藥基金的構想"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/5.wav",
        "text": "讓基金可以自主營運"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/6.wav",
        "text": "不只救急也要救命"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/7.wav",
        "text": "在這個構想提出的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/8.wav",
        "text": "本席立即響應"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/9.wav",
        "text": "也在2022年4月12日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/10.wav",
        "text": "還有時任的衛福部陳前部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/11.wav",
        "text": "爭取也在同年5月26日邀請衛福部及相關專家學者召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/12.wav",
        "text": "然後在隔年2023年4月20日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/13.wav",
        "text": "我帶領著13個病友團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/14.wav",
        "text": "進到總統府內面見當時的賴清德副總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/15.wav",
        "text": "當天副總統就公開表示"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/16.wav",
        "text": "要將臺灣百億癌症基金納入在競選政見之中"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/17.wav",
        "text": "所以在去年年底總統大選時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/18.wav",
        "text": "有人說賴清德總統的政見是抄襲別人的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/19.wav",
        "text": "這真的是非常冤枉"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/20.wav",
        "text": "而且是天大的誤會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/21.wav",
        "text": "但是我也必須要提醒當時2023年4月20日"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/22.wav",
        "text": "在總統府的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/23.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的總統當時的副總統"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/24.wav",
        "text": "確實有講要把癌症新藥基金納入在政見裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/25.wav",
        "text": "這是一個事實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/26.wav",
        "text": "\n我是要讓部長瞭解整個臺灣百億癌症新藥基金的時序"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/27.wav",
        "text": "當然它必須要透過法律的修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/28.wav",
        "text": "同時有更多的癌症病友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/29.wav",
        "text": "所以本席在今年5月與立院厚生會召開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/30.wav",
        "text": "提升臺灣癌症新藥可近性委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/31.wav",
        "text": "癌症希望基金會董事"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/32.wav",
        "text": "最難過的事情不是看不到希望"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/33.wav",
        "text": "而是看到希望卻沒辦法去做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/34.wav",
        "text": "有很多委員有提出癌症新藥基金的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/35.wav",
        "text": "總共有11個版本左右"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/36.wav",
        "text": "到現在還沒有看到行政院的版本"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/37.wav",
        "text": "我要請教一下行政院到底什麼時候要送出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/38.wav",
        "text": "真的非常感動"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/39.wav",
        "text": "我今天才這麼清楚地知道百億基金的來源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/40.wav",
        "text": "原來是這樣的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/41.wav",
        "text": "這邊還有很多流程"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/42.wav",
        "text": "賴基銘醫師是我的好朋友"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/43.wav",
        "text": "也感謝建國委員陪著賴醫師去爭取這樣一件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/44.wav",
        "text": "如果我們馬上在癌症防治法裡面這樣寫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/45.wav",
        "text": "大家有共識很快的通過"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/46.wav",
        "text": "馬上來落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/47.wav",
        "text": "是最好的事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/48.wav",
        "text": "但是沒關係"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/49.wav",
        "text": "剛剛石署長也報告了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/50.wav",
        "text": "我們用暫時支付的方式"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/51.wav",
        "text": "今年24億在處理這個部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/52.wav",
        "text": "讓一些癌症新藥可以用到病人身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/53.wav",
        "text": "明年政府會用60億的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/54.wav",
        "text": "算一算用60億就可以了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/55.wav",
        "text": "第三年會變百億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/56.wav",
        "text": "至少這三年我們這樣做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/57.wav",
        "text": "在癌症防治法裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/58.wav",
        "text": "如果修法能夠順利完成"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/59.wav",
        "text": "基金設立或是怎麼樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/60.wav",
        "text": "我想這樣的運作"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/61.wav",
        "text": "就不會讓病人去等"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/62.wav",
        "text": "部長講出兩個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/63.wav",
        "text": "第一個點要有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/64.wav",
        "text": "馬上就可以修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/65.wav",
        "text": "現在有什麼地方沒有共識還"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/66.wav",
        "text": "還是哪一個委員有不一樣的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/67.wav",
        "text": "你不用講委員的名字"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/68.wav",
        "text": "有沒有這樣的因素存在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/69.wav",
        "text": "如果沒有你這麼講是有點奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/70.wav",
        "text": "哪一個委員有不一樣的意見跟想法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/71.wav",
        "text": "大家都可以來討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/72.wav",
        "text": "坦白講今天如果不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/73.wav",
        "text": "召委排這樣的專案報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/74.wav",
        "text": "可不可以我們同時來進行"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/75.wav",
        "text": "我們錢已經先申請拿出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/76.wav",
        "text": "長剛才講的第一個點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/77.wav",
        "text": "你還沒有答復我"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/78.wav",
        "text": "第二點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/79.wav",
        "text": "這句話說起來很嚴重"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/80.wav",
        "text": "喔這會傷到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/81.wav",
        "text": "沒有癌症新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/82.wav",
        "text": "你怎麼知道不用這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/83.wav",
        "text": "你有去跟病友團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/84.wav",
        "text": "你有跟醫界"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/85.wav",
        "text": "他都是癌症的專業醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/86.wav",
        "text": "如果是補助"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/87.wav",
        "text": "只要合乎indication"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/88.wav",
        "text": "基本上這部分就是健保給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/89.wav",
        "text": "這沒有問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/90.wav",
        "text": "一些新藥好像它的效果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/91.wav",
        "text": "所以部長如果要這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/92.wav",
        "text": "再去講後面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/93.wav",
        "text": "不用這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/94.wav",
        "text": "你把不用這麼多的話說在前面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/95.wav",
        "text": "如果照生意需要聽你這種的說法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/96.wav",
        "text": "有點怪怪的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/97.wav",
        "text": "這樣你會發生危險"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/98.wav",
        "text": "啦你現在是部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/99.wav",
        "text": "今天蘇清泉委員跟你說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/100.wav",
        "text": "你回去當委員比較好"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/101.wav",
        "text": "他又開醫"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/102.wav",
        "text": "院你是家醫師你當部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/103.wav",
        "text": "他是開醫院的醫師"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/104.wav",
        "text": "做到這麼大"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/105.wav",
        "text": "卻沒辦法擔任部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/106.wav",
        "text": "你一個家醫師背景"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/107.wav",
        "text": "的人可以擔任部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/108.wav",
        "text": "所以你的表現要更"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/109.wav",
        "text": "八穩有些話可能先後順序排序你要清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/110.wav",
        "text": "不然會傷到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/111.wav",
        "text": "部長你剛才講的先後順序已經有衝突矛盾"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/112.wav",
        "text": "你們連"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/113.wav",
        "text": "這份報告裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/114.wav",
        "text": "你們也亂七八糟地修改"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/115.wav",
        "text": "我不曉得是哪一個幕僚提供這樣的訊息給你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/116.wav",
        "text": "還是誰給你的指令"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/117.wav",
        "text": "怎麼會你們的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/118.wav",
        "text": "一下子寫這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/119.wav",
        "text": "本部將朝"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/120.wav",
        "text": "癌症防治法設立癌症"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/121.wav",
        "text": "新藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/122.wav",
        "text": "這是最早給我們的報告"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/123.wav",
        "text": "現在這幾個字不見了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/124.wav",
        "text": "本部優先規劃爭取公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/125.wav",
        "text": "撥入全民健康保險基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/126.wav",
        "text": "為什麼要改這個"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/127.wav",
        "text": "大家經過認真地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/128.wav",
        "text": "當然"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/129.wav",
        "text": "你們的意思是說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/130.wav",
        "text": "在行政院認真地討論"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/131.wav",
        "text": "所以你們原本的報告出來在你們部裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/132.wav",
        "text": "本來就是那個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/133.wav",
        "text": "但可能怕那個方向在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/134.wav",
        "text": "不是啦部長我覺得你說話要小心"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/135.wav",
        "text": "啦你這樣講很奇怪"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/136.wav",
        "text": "因為你上個禮拜對媒體說了什麼話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/137.wav",
        "text": "跟你現在在報告裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/138.wav",
        "text": "互相衝突"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/139.wav",
        "text": "有沒有如此你很清楚不然你的幕僚就是不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/140.wav",
        "text": "禮拜五的時候委員會已經收到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/141.wav",
        "text": "本部將朝向修正"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/142.wav",
        "text": "癌症防治法設立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/143.wav",
        "text": "癌症新藥基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/144.wav",
        "text": "這是你們的報告啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/145.wav",
        "text": "為什麼現在這個報告文字不見了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/146.wav",
        "text": "然後你跟我講是行政院"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/147.wav",
        "text": "你們一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/148.wav",
        "text": "一開始寫的時候"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/149.wav",
        "text": "的確是有寫到癌症防治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/150.wav",
        "text": "我們禮拜六禮拜天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/151.wav",
        "text": "也都沒有休息對此"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/152.wav",
        "text": "可能要講清楚一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/153.wav",
        "text": "進到健保基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/154.wav",
        "text": "專款專用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/155.wav",
        "text": "明年馬上就可以來做"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/156.wav",
        "text": "以這個為優先"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/157.wav",
        "text": "同時在後面來做啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/158.wav",
        "text": "叫我講久一點因為他到了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/159.wav",
        "text": "我就沒辦法講很久了所以我開始要講重點了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/160.wav",
        "text": "我只想讓部長答復部"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/161.wav",
        "text": "長你這樣答復還是有很大的問題"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/162.wav",
        "text": "如果要"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/163.wav",
        "text": "再從健保裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/164.wav",
        "text": "勻支這些需要的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/165.wav",
        "text": "撥補到總額裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/166.wav",
        "text": "再從總額裡面撥出來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/167.wav",
        "text": "跟你上個禮拜講的是不一樣沒有專款專用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/168.wav",
        "text": "沒有撥到總額裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/169.wav",
        "text": "沒有撥到總額裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/170.wav",
        "text": "不然用公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/171.wav",
        "text": "直接成立一個基金不是更快"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/172.wav",
        "text": "為什麼還來到健保這一"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/173.wav",
        "text": "一塊再從這邊出去"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/174.wav",
        "text": "然後叫作專款專用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/175.wav",
        "text": "這個邏輯你這樣說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/176.wav",
        "text": "不然楊委員也在這裡你請教他一下"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/177.wav",
        "text": "這也是一個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/178.wav",
        "text": "這是一個方向"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/179.wav",
        "text": "你說這筆用公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/180.wav",
        "text": "要來處理癌症新藥對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/181.wav",
        "text": "你暫時沒有成立基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/182.wav",
        "text": "現在來用這些經費"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/183.wav",
        "text": "是夠的嘛你講的是60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/184.wav",
        "text": "喔暫時"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/185.wav",
        "text": "你扣掉到底是多少"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/186.wav",
        "text": "目前就24億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/187.wav",
        "text": "24億你就覺得夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/188.wav",
        "text": "目前是暫時性支付的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/189.wav",
        "text": "24億的暫時性支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/190.wav",
        "text": "署長你跟我講這樣就夠了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/191.wav",
        "text": "今年夠用啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/192.wav",
        "text": "24億今年夠用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/193.wav",
        "text": "很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/194.wav",
        "text": "跟委員報告我們現在訂的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/195.wav",
        "text": "不是健保裡面就不再支付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/196.wav",
        "text": "癌藥新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/197.wav",
        "text": "癌藥新藥還是放在健保裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/198.wav",
        "text": "所以它療效如果明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/199.wav",
        "text": "我們的評估財務衝擊都很明確"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/200.wav",
        "text": "還是會進到健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/201.wav",
        "text": "這個專款的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/202.wav",
        "text": "只是對一些療效或財務"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/203.wav",
        "text": "評估不確定的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/204.wav",
        "text": "讓它可以先用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/205.wav",
        "text": "並不是全部合起來的癌藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/206.wav",
        "text": "署長我們那天有講得很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/207.wav",
        "text": "公聽會你也有參加對不對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/208.wav",
        "text": "是要分流出來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/209.wav",
        "text": "如果是重疊在一塊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/210.wav",
        "text": "那意義就不大嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/211.wav",
        "text": "它現在就是分開"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/212.wav",
        "text": "你已經把它分開之後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/213.wav",
        "text": "為什麼不能去修防治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/214.wav",
        "text": "趕快成立基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/215.wav",
        "text": "因為依據財政紀律法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/216.wav",
        "text": "現在要訂一個獨立的基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/217.wav",
        "text": "不能用現有財源或公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/218.wav",
        "text": "挹注"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/219.wav",
        "text": "這句話已經聽過N次以上了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/220.wav",
        "text": "所以你們到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/221.wav",
        "text": "都還沒有找到不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/222.wav",
        "text": "所以你的公務預算是沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/223.wav",
        "text": "你想要跟我表達的是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/224.wav",
        "text": "有有未來一定有100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/225.wav",
        "text": "但是沒有辦法新設一個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/226.wav",
        "text": "為什麼有100億卻沒辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/227.wav",
        "text": "新設一個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/228.wav",
        "text": "這是財政紀律法的規定"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/229.wav",
        "text": "財政紀律法有規定有100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/230.wav",
        "text": "你們已經找出財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/231.wav",
        "text": "財源跟你說沒辦法新設一個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/232.wav",
        "text": "它是說新增的財源才可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/233.wav",
        "text": "新增的或是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/234.wav",
        "text": "新收了一個什麼稅"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/235.wav",
        "text": "新增財源的定義是什麼"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/236.wav",
        "text": "就是不在現有的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/237.wav",
        "text": "或已經有分配的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/238.wav",
        "text": "稅收運用用途"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/239.wav",
        "text": "不能夠另外"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/240.wav",
        "text": "用現有的預算去處理的意思"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/241.wav",
        "text": "你現在這個是用現有預算嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/242.wav",
        "text": "不是嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/243.wav",
        "text": "這個現在是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/244.wav",
        "text": "放到現有的基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/245.wav",
        "text": "啦現在這個公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/246.wav",
        "text": "是現有的預算嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/247.wav",
        "text": "必須要另謀新的財源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/248.wav",
        "text": "我們現在的作法上是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/249.wav",
        "text": "先用健保基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/250.wav",
        "text": "這是既有基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/251.wav",
        "text": "我跟你講白一點你很清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/252.wav",
        "text": "你也有參加"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/253.wav",
        "text": "他們都知道健保要支撐"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/254.wav",
        "text": "癌友團體非常清楚才會來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/255.wav",
        "text": "請託你們才會來請託"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/256.wav",
        "text": "總統才會來請託院長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/257.wav",
        "text": "要去成立這個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/258.wav",
        "text": "對不對現在你要從健保基金裡面勻"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/259.wav",
        "text": "支二十九億多這不是"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/260.wav",
        "text": "是由公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/261.wav",
        "text": "挹注到健保基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/262.wav",
        "text": "對嘛就從公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/263.wav",
        "text": "挹注到健保基金才從健健保基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/264.wav",
        "text": "再勻支出來我這樣講不對嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/265.wav",
        "text": "就是在健保基金裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/266.wav",
        "text": "來操作專款專用"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/267.wav",
        "text": "你的公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/268.wav",
        "text": "這個是從"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/269.wav",
        "text": "國家的預算裡面"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/270.wav",
        "text": "撥進來是嘛國家的預算撥進來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/271.wav",
        "text": "違反財政紀律沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/272.wav",
        "text": "就要另謀財源要新的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/273.wav",
        "text": "財源去成立一個基金不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/274.wav",
        "text": "好所以到目前為止"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/275.wav",
        "text": "有新的財源所以你們不可以"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/276.wav",
        "text": "去修這個法是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/277.wav",
        "text": "這樣你就是把"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/278.wav",
        "text": "邱部長的嘴巴打得非常大了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/279.wav",
        "text": "委員會要有共識"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/280.wav",
        "text": "他剛剛開場白講的第一點就是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/281.wav",
        "text": "所以還需要時間去研議"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/282.wav",
        "text": "研議是你們去研議找"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/283.wav",
        "text": "新的財源不是委員會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/284.wav",
        "text": "沒有共識嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/285.wav",
        "text": "你剛剛坐底下沒有聽到嗎"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/286.wav",
        "text": "很清楚邱部長是這樣講的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/287.wav",
        "text": "他講的第一點"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/288.wav",
        "text": "我應該沒有聽錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/289.wav",
        "text": "主席應該也沒有聽錯"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/290.wav",
        "text": "如果修正癌症防治法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/291.wav",
        "text": "裡面設一個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/292.wav",
        "text": "是不是裡面要寫另闢對"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/293.wav",
        "text": "也是要寫另闢財源才有辦法"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/294.wav",
        "text": "要有基金的來源"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/295.wav",
        "text": "但是可能在一段時間的努力之前"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/296.wav",
        "text": "馬上就直接可以用健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/297.wav",
        "text": "基金專款專用來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/298.wav",
        "text": "用到病人的身上"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/299.wav",
        "text": "這是最短速"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/300.wav",
        "text": "這個基金我們再來談"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/301.wav",
        "text": "看看設了以後"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/302.wav",
        "text": "需要一點時間"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/303.wav",
        "text": "但是大家不要忘記"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/304.wav",
        "text": "現在所有癌症的治療還是健保在給付"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/305.wav",
        "text": "並沒有影響到健保"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/306.wav",
        "text": "應該要治療的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/307.wav",
        "text": "絕對不會影響部長"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/308.wav",
        "text": "你說這個我不是不清楚"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/309.wav",
        "text": "這件事情不是現在才說"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/310.wav",
        "text": "就開始了一直到現在"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/311.wav",
        "text": "署長應該非常清楚吧"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/312.wav",
        "text": "你們到底是什麼地方去卡到"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/313.wav",
        "text": "不然你那一天怎麼會"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/314.wav",
        "text": "對媒體講"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/315.wav",
        "text": "有點在矇混"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/316.wav",
        "text": "就好像你們不打算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/317.wav",
        "text": "要成立這個基金要矇混"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/318.wav",
        "text": "然後不用到這麼多"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/319.wav",
        "text": "你們的意思是這樣嘛"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/320.wav",
        "text": "原本今年就已經核定過了核過的新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/321.wav",
        "text": "你的36億原本是這樣"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/322.wav",
        "text": "你的暫時性支付2"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/323.wav",
        "text": "其實也是我剛剛說的你跟我說沒有"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/324.wav",
        "text": "那可能也差了幾億而已"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/325.wav",
        "text": "也差了幾億而已啦"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/326.wav",
        "text": "不然你把明細拿給我看"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/327.wav",
        "text": "你把明細拿出來給"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/328.wav",
        "text": "給所有的委員看啊"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/329.wav",
        "text": "我能讓你這樣跟我講喔難道"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/330.wav",
        "text": "你當作我今天才來的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/331.wav",
        "text": "新藥要等多久"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/332.wav",
        "text": "平均782天"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/333.wav",
        "text": "這些癌友團體"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/334.wav",
        "text": "訴求這件事情"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/335.wav",
        "text": "衛福部去年還派員去英國考察"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/336.wav",
        "text": "但是到現在這個基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/337.wav",
        "text": "還沒辦法成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/338.wav",
        "text": "現在才跟我講財政紀律"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/339.wav",
        "text": "我們會後我們快一點來修"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/340.wav",
        "text": "你還跟我說委員"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/341.wav",
        "text": "有不同的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/342.wav",
        "text": "我們都可以去溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/343.wav",
        "text": "你們衛福部也應該去溝通"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/344.wav",
        "text": "裡面有哪一個委員的意見是不同的"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/345.wav",
        "text": "我不清楚所以我就教於你"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/346.wav",
        "text": "癌症防治法的部分"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/347.wav",
        "text": "我們趕快來整理大家的意見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/348.wav",
        "text": "現在因為"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/349.wav",
        "text": "行政院希望趕快落實"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/350.wav",
        "text": "總統的政見"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/351.wav",
        "text": "所以明年會用公務預算"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/352.wav",
        "text": "60億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/353.wav",
        "text": "專款專用來幫助癌症的新藥"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/354.wav",
        "text": "後年會100億"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/355.wav",
        "text": "癌症防治法這邊如果"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/356.wav",
        "text": "通過的話"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/357.wav",
        "text": "我想整個會shift到這邊來"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/358.wav",
        "text": "好部長我再強調一次最後一句話就好了"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/359.wav",
        "text": "總統的政見就是要成立"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/360.wav",
        "text": "癌症新藥百億基金"
    },
    {
        "audio": "../sentence_wavs/154418/361.wav",
        "text": "就這樣而已"
    }
]