| {"text":"Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources: How to Draw: An /ic/ Guide Additional Guides and References And don't forget to HEED THE RULES."} | |
| {"text":"At what age did you start drawing?, is it too late once you're in your late twenties and neuroplasticity has set in?"} | |
| {"text":"I drew a lot as a kid, but I stopped when I turned 15, believing I was good enough to pick it up later. I tried to draw, sporadically, for a few years, but I decided to pursue a teaching degree in art history. I worked for a few years, and I decided to try and teach drawing and painting back in December 2024. Turns out, I was completely shit. Being a delusional 15-year-old really does a number on your perception of reality. I couldn't even draw a Loomis head correctly, it was that bad. In December 2024, I was 28, I started taking it seriously, doing absolutely boring shit, no fun drawings, no original pieces for the first 8-10 months. I only studied Hampton, I'm still studying Bridgman, and some artists inbetween to enhance my linework. It's boring doing 80 percent studies 2-5 hours a day, but man it accelerates your learning. I'm now 29, and it was worth it. No regrets, and I keep improving every single day."} | |
| {"text":"i did zero but stopped midway because I started the course after I had already learned to do copies on my own, so it was doing a lot of the same for the color/light course, yes its amazing, the first 3 lessons or so are very rudimentary and basic/fundamental, but lesson 4 onwards is where i was really getting that \"fuck this is so helpful I wish I had more lessons than just 8 of this stuff\" the goal is to eyeball both the color and value but i think he mentioned if you cant do that then you can color pick, but only to check to see how close you were, but not to use it to skip the learning process of being able to determine values by sight alone"} | |
| {"text":"That sounds good. Thanks anon, my copying isn't good so zero might not be a bad idea, was it good until the midway point?"} | |
| {"text":"i think its good all the way through, from what i could tell it was basically just going from really basic copying to more complex, its a solid course for someone who is a couple of months into learning, definitely not for brand new beginners though"} | |
| {"text":"I see, I'll have to try it out then. I saw everyone was doing it digitally (I think you're supposed to, not sure?) and drawing with a tablet feels real weird but I'm sure I'll adjust eventually."} | |
| {"text":"Keep the gesture simple. One line for flow, one for a stabilizing force, large masses blocked in loosely. This doesn't work unless you know 90% of what you're laying down and why (eg, the legs and pelvis obscure the stomach in a shot where the character is vaulting over something and coming \"at\" the camera). Then use wrapping lines to establish what is where. If something is receding, just wrap it a few times to show it moving \"back\" into the picture plane. Reverse for whatever direction, really. This helps keep things organized for when you clean up and establish the anatomy. If"} | |
| {"text":"this is why you just outright refuse some commissioners I've had to turn down some that were just outright awful to look at, couldn't be salvaged"} | |
| {"text":"Oh yeah, the resource: try Michael Hampton until you get his technique down, then just use it for your own purposes. David Finch has a good method, and so does Glen Vilppu. YouTube or pirate, doesn't matter."} | |
| {"text":"Thank you for the advice anon. I was actually talking more about \"things\" or animals instead of people but I'd love to draw people at some point, so it's still very helpful. Just feel like humans are gonna pretty tough at my current skill level since I have no idea about anatomy or construction."} | |
| {"text":"Just a little bit more I have to study the water a big more"} | |
| {"text":"is it just pure anatomy and pose grind? or are there techniques that helps with creating dynamic fight scenes"} | |
| {"text":"wha"} | |
| {"text":"he is particularly in distaste of niggers"} | |
| {"text":"big L aura farming no kappa"} | |
| {"text":"Yes but make sure to do a drawing of him."} | |
| {"text":"I thought the people watching it thought it did. Nope, even Solo Leveling fans admit that they're carried by art and animation, tho Demon Slayer fans are delusional, they somehow think that their shitty manga would be popular even with a terrible anime adaptation like what happened with One Punch Man's Season 3. Jujutsu Kaisen fans are extremely dumb tho, they think that JJK is somehow a writing masterpiece when in reality it's barely a cut above Slop Leveling, if that. TLDR They're shallow trash aimed at powerscaling ret@rds that dont care about storytelling, nuance, emotions, etc"} | |
| {"text":"What happened to artists, why are most of them gay, lesbians or trans now? Where are the chads at?"} | |
| {"text":"reading this was funny because you mentioned mass-shootings and my brain went \"DING DING DING, LIBTARD DETECTED\" but then you go on to be racist (which is cool) so I suppose I was wrong."} | |
| {"text":"It's always good to stick to your core beliefs, regardless of what others say or do. I just say ping-pong because different solutions made sense at different times, especially growing up. Best of luck, anon"} | |
| {"text":"i'm a far right chud and i love art. it's just that most of the \"art\" i like is hmofa furry porn or starship floor plans. i don't really like art when it's political. leftists overall see art as a means of propaganda which draws them towards artistic mediums as a means of sharing their beliefs. there's even people who go so far as to say \"all art is political\" and exclude casual art enjoyers. is correct though, but the correlation between artists and insanity is more about the fact that an unhealthy drive and determination is needed to master creative endeavors, so only mentally ill artists get good enough to be employed professionally, but political ideology is only one form of insanity and you could just be someone like JustinRPG with an extremely narrow fetish and no way to scratch that itch. artists being overwhelmingly leftist is mostly to do with creative spaces always being bourgie to some degree (art costs a lot of money and time). the leftists end up dominating online spaces and it's self-reinforcing because no chud wants to deal with anti-redpilled site admins."} | |
| {"text":"Let's be friends. I don't know enough chud artists. Where can I find you?"} | |
| {"text":"Nice try fbi-kun"} | |
| {"text":"this is the average AI Accuser btw"} | |
| {"text":"the eyelashes are THAT inconsistent Nah, it checks out"} | |
| {"text":"You don’t feed the trolls. No amount of evidence will convince them they were wrong. Trying to defend yourself will only make it worse because more retards will join the discussion. You know you don’t use AI. If someone thinks you do, that’s their problem."} | |
| {"text":"the best thing you can do for AI accusations is to just tell the truth: say you aren't. you don't need to \"prove\" anything with timelapse videos (AI fakes those too). your art will appear human made once you get a large and consistent portfolio over a long period of time. AI sloppers will generate images from any art style, with no continuity between images, and they will generate a hundred images per day, so if you're consistently putting out 1 full illustration per week, attentive observers can just cross reference your output with how long you have been drawing."} | |
| {"text":"Modern day \"trolling\" is just harassment and most trolls are unironical nutjobs. Doesn't matter what you do or don't do, you always lose."} | |
| {"text":"Here's the actual file"} | |
| {"text":"first attempt"} | |
| {"text":"160 x 144 px canvas Oh the horrors"} | |
| {"text":"I'm not saying Omg a 160 x 144 canvas! so small! I've done pixel art much smaller than that such as pic related"} | |
| {"text":"Draw this pose."} | |
| {"text":"This is nice, anon. Even without the nose. Anime does just fine without proper noses as well."} | |
| {"text":"Why not, I guess."} | |
| {"text":"Do good references don't exist in the western shithole? lmao, it's the internet at least put some effort when looking for reference, It's always garbage."} | |
| {"text":"Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts. Just keep them art related."} | |
| {"text":"sticky notes."} | |
| {"text":"lol. the resolution is small, but by golly I can practice animation too"} | |
| {"text":"stylus replacement order is stuck under review It never began for wacomcels"} | |
| {"text":"i hear the rats dying from the poison :("} | |
| {"text":"man I could be a really good fucking artist and absolutely decimate these dudes on twitter one fucking thing i have to fix in my life then I can go all out"} | |
| {"text":"Drawing has started to feel fun instead of miserable"} | |
| {"text":"You must be high int before this can happen."} | |
| {"text":"He needs your help"} | |
| {"text":"Nuke Greenland"} | |
| {"text":"What ? No one gave him a dildo?"} | |
| {"text":"Can't believe that someone who can navigate the internet well enough to be on 4chan holds the naive worldview required to create this"} | |
| {"text":"about as naïve as the /pol/ tourist still supporting the con artist nigger in the white house"} | |
| {"text":"I refuse to draw anime and lewd stuff And my style is based on western cartoons"} | |
| {"text":"normgroid responses btw. hit dogs holler."} | |
| {"text":"Yet more dumbasses erasing that anime exists thrived on fujoshi culture and only since around 2002 did older males start really paying attention. You fake as fuck dog."} | |
| {"text":"AI overview"} | |
| {"text":"if you think that's bad, imagine being in the star wars fandom post-2013 and seeing women call pedro pascal \"daddy\" and post grumpy grogu chicken nuggie memes."} | |
| {"text":"It was mainly just Covids fault"} | |
| {"text":"Previous thread Welcome to /salt/, drawing is suffering edition. Your general thread dedicated to sexual artworks ranging from simple pinups with exaggerated proportions, to explicit pornography. Please feel free to pick your best works in progress, or finished work, and post it here. General Rules & Guidelines 1. All forms of art styles are welcome; submit your work and receive feedback from others. 2. Please resize your images below 1000x1000 pixels before posting. 3. Don't be afraid to ask for an honest, constructive critique. Be specific on the type of help you need. 4. Share whatever knowledge you can. Please provide references whenever possible. 5. Remember all GB3 related content such as LOLICON, SHOTACON, FURRY and FURRY PORNOGRAPHY along with BESTIALITY are BANNED on ALL boards, including red boards— except for /b/ and /trash/. PLEASE DO NOT post that content here. Thanks. 6. DO NOT reply to Al bait posts. Report and hide, then let the janitors and moderators deal with the problem. Community Resources Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."} | |
| {"text":"Can this be considered loli, I mean for the boddy type and proportions? When sr.fbi would track my ip for drawing lolis?"} | |
| {"text":"I think you're seeing lolis where there aren't any anon... but the FBI might start looking into why you're seeing them everywhere"} | |
| {"text":"didn't make a version where the dick is a hook wasted meme potential"} | |
| {"text":"This is awful yet still better than me If anything, im motivated by this drawing"} | |
| {"text":"What’s wrong with this? It looks like any other drawing book"} | |
| {"text":"it's amateur/beg. are the other drawing books you're looking at \"how to draw anime\"?"} | |
| {"text":"If you don't coonstruct, you're not drawing"} | |
| {"text":"Hi Cade."} | |
| {"text":"Why are there people on here who go on about not using a reference? How did such a retarded notion ever gain traction?"} | |
| {"text":"you find a ref of a woman sitting on a toilet, then refs of someone holding a shotgun pointing upwards, then use your actual artistic skills to extract the right info from each image and combine them. You aren't supposed to find a singular reference and entirely copy it."} | |
| {"text":"that's not how using reference works nigga, you are using your imagination to blend two different objects"} | |
| {"text":"motherfucker that's literally the entire point of references, covering the gaps in your knowledge so you can fill them in with multiple different sources"} | |
| {"text":"That's exactly how using multiple references work. Are you just ragebaiting, or really this ignorant on the subject?"} | |
| {"text":"pyw"} | |
| {"text":"// PLEASE CHECK THE LINKS BELOW BEFORE REQUESTING /// Be specific if you request something: post the cover, book's title, artist's name... Please be patient, board is slow, someone may answer you a week later. Please search in the thread and links below before asking for something, it may well already be there. PLEASE ENCODE YOUR LINKS BEFORE YOU POST THEM HERE! Unencoded links are frequent targets for trolls and bots! Thread recap file (last updated 21-DEC-2025): aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZpbGUvVzdCaTJCQWEjRWtnanBxYkdKaXNkRTlnSmRkZGc4bzE0eHNBLXA0ejVVdU1Nc1J6b2dqTQ== Artbooks: aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZWRpYWZpcmUuY29tL2ZvbGRlci8xN2F4cGY0ZDdrMDV1L2FydGJvb2tzI215ZmlsZXM= Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."} | |
| {"text":"Any good book about pixel art?"} | |
| {"text":"I was going to say go to the pixel art thread. But it’s already gone lol."} | |
| {"text":"Try Pixel Logic A Guide to Pixel Art by Michael Azzi."} | |
| {"text":"pyp"} | |
| {"text":"? what mean"} | |
| {"text":"So this is the test to see if one will become a succesful professional artist. Are you going to be a succesful professional artist?"} | |
| {"text":"tracing"} | |
| {"text":"Like this?"} | |
| {"text":"Draw her without her shell! NOW! (Also, good work)"} | |
| {"text":"It's testing for personality, it's about which one you picked and whether you actually use the grid and projector. Most of the board would choose the lady or the pirate arguing the other two are /beg/ shit, eyeball it from across the room instead of tracing because tracing is /beg/ shit, drawing a reasonably accurate copy, and fail miserably as some boomer animator reveals industry work is all about efficiency and anyone who put in real effort instead of tracing Condorito in eight seconds is a retard. Or anyone who traced Condorito is a retard and you need to believe in yourself, depends on the boomer."} | |
| {"text":"I was going to try the woman for a personal challenge, but I couldn't attempt it (grid wise) within less than 10 minutes. As a result, I went with the Turtle :)"} | |
| {"text":"1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one. 2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome. 3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn. 4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering. 5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^) Previous Thread:"} | |
| {"text":"Ty"} | |
| {"text":"Here's your Julio!"} | |
| {"text":"likewise, and he looks kind of tired. is he ok? lol"} | |
| {"text":"YOO, This goes hard"} | |
| {"text":"AAHHHHH thank you so much! She's adorable in your style, I cannot thank you enough."} | |
| {"text":"genuinely ridiculous how great a motivation number go up is"} | |
| {"text":"I see, RanNumGen. I see..."} | |
| {"text":"why the hell is the time zone for this GMT? the day on DAD ends 4 hours before the day actually ends for me as an american, and i usually draw late at night this typically leads to me posting the work i did the day before (technically), which feels lame to me"} | |
| {"text":"Recently turned 23. Definetly am not recovering as quickly as I used to. Tbh that would be wholesome, maybe a little weird but its a nice idea. I'm tired."} | |
| {"text":"i'm only 2 years younger than namefag oh god i still feel like I'm mentally 18"} | |
| {"text":"Wanted to post this on /beg/ but the thread is dying currently. Decided to draw an aristocrat for my alt history setting and i want to make him more futuristic looking. The idea is that old fashion is mixed in with new stuff."} | |
| {"text":"Why does he have one black shoe? Also, it looks like you lost interest once you got to the waist and had to work on his legs. Upper body has some appeal, but lower feels a whole level poorer quality."} | |
| {"text":"Also to make him more scifi, maybe look at high end experimental fashion from various eras and incorporate more tech. It can be hard to determine what looks futuristic without showing fancy doodads."} | |
| {"text":"Wanted to make it a prosthetic leg. Looks like i failed and yeah im not good at drawing lower parts of the body."} | |
| {"text":"So one example could be designing a prosthetic leg that resembles the modern artificial springy curved ones, but give it some adornments to fit this guy's, uh space aristocrat(?) look. Basically, find references for stuff you are unsure of, and find a small handful of mood/theme/style pics to draw inspiration from. And of course balance drawing for fun with practicing technique and fundies."} | |
| {"text":"Alright anon, thanks ^^"} | |
| {"text":"old:"} | |
| {"text":"a 6 is too small if anything, a 10 is the workhorse brush, an 8 is already on the small side save as much paper as possible ngmi, water becomes exponentially less controllable and more destructive as the surface scales down and paint dries exponentially faster the smaller the area buy a roll of baohong off of temu or ali (square corner decoration is student grade, squiggly decoration is artist grade, if the picture has a square pattern on the corners of the label, it's student grade regardless of what the chinks wrote)"} | |
| {"text":"4 is plenty"} | |
| {"text":"don't be a retard"} | |
| {"text":"that is a quality snail. I got a box of oil pastels to try them out"} | |
| {"text":"We are already 20 days into the new year, nodraw."} | |
| {"text":"can i get models with handsome guys? twinks and hunks preferably, i get really tired of running into old men and fatties"} | |
| {"text":"looking for human/animal skull references"} | |
| {"text":"Is there an artistic rendition for the logic of gore? I'm not looking for realistic or liveleak stuff, but moreso a reference of how the body would look or react to various weapons or a Saw traps."} | |
| {"text":"seconding but i’m good with butterfaces"} | |
| {"text":"Question for the /beg/s here, whats your experience with drawabox?"} | |
| {"text":"I havent a clue. Hes legitimately brain dead. I've been watching him since his first week and it seemed like he wanted to get good at learning English, music and art but as time went on all he kept doing was boxes and lines and now here we are. At first I thought maybe he was just doing these warm ups in the morning before serious illustration but then I checked his pixiv and nothing. No art elsewhere, just that youtube channel. AND HE IS KOREAN. He could just walk into some cafe and learn from industry pros at night after work. Loads of them in his country. So I'm leaning on legit autism. There was one other guy (lady) in a discord I was in who posted circles every single day for 3 years straight with 1 furry head sketched to the side every now and then but she never got better. Later I come to find she literally did have diagnosed autism."} | |
| {"text":"I do have a degree of diagnosed legit Asperger but I still got a job and I'm controlling it to some extent, and I still practice every day, you making me feel like just because my condition I'll never draw, but I still have faith and I'm not doing only lines and circles, I do construction anatomy and longer studies from different styles so I think if I keep going I'll be able to draw someday."} | |
| {"text":"This is why you'll never learn to draw, because you've set an arbitrary \"permission point\" where it's considered drawing. Someone who starts this way goes nowhere."} | |
| {"text":"/int/'s typically have more knowledge than /beg/'s"} | |
| {"text":"dafuq you mean by permission point, and if you think practising lines is autism and doing figure drawing gestures, anatomy and longer studies from references is also autist and it's not considered drawing, then what the fuck you consider drawing? only still life fruits is drawing or you're going to tell me that's also autist and no drawing? make some sense or explain yourself instead of just throwing shit everywhere, it makes no sense"} | |
| {"text":"will AI do what digital did to trad?"} | |
| {"text":"industry still wants people that know how to do their job Wut."} | |
| {"text":"Need experience to get a job Need a job to get experience Corpos are pure bollocks"} | |
| {"text":"1 seasoned veteran doing the work of 1000 grads. The industry doesn't want new people, fuck them, \"young\" zoomtards wanted AI so welcome to never having a fucking job, don't like it? Blame it on the zoomtards, they ruined your future."} | |
| {"text":"How is this thread still up?"} | |
| {"text":"zoomtards gets fucked up because of AI somehow manages to twist it into ruining existing industry workers AIshart isnt sending their best"} | |
| {"text":"Hello /ic/! I've obtained a prescription for (generic) Adderall and wanted to experiment on how it affected learning to draw. I opened this thread to document my progress and for everyone else's observation / amusement. My goal with this thread is to simply take an Adderall and draw for at least a couple hours a day and post the results. Realistically I may miss some days. The hope is to keep these threads ongoing until I'm either satisfied with the progress documented, or I crash out. Probable Questions: Are you actually diagnosed with ADD / ADHD? Yes, ADD. I believe inattentive. Been diagnosed since 2003 but never treated long-term. How old are you? 31. Do you work? Yes. Full time with a very emotionally draining job. Are you on the spectrum? Undiagnosed but I'm pretty sure. High functioning if so. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."} | |
| {"text":"Wait a second..."} | |
| {"text":"OMG!!!!!!!!"} | |
| {"text":"why have vanishing points if you aren't projecting to them"} | |
| {"text":"this is a very interesting thread, anon. before medication, how long were you able to focus on drawing without just getting distracted? has this improved after medication?"} | |
| {"text":"Because I'm just replicating what I saw until I had to be told that you use BOTH vanishing points, not just the dominant sides. How long could you focus? 3 hours max a day spent only on work and then it fell off a cliff after that. On drawing It would be 20 or 30 minutes tops, but now that I'm feeling the motor skills a bit it's easier to go along with it. I use to not be able to go any hour by any means. Now whenever medicated +/- an hour. My posts on the 18th was 6 hours of it."} | |
| {"text":"After sleeping on it, I hate it. I should have waited to do the body so I didn't get impatient."} | |
| {"text":"what do yall think so far"} | |
| {"text":"grind fundies Just doodle it. nobody's paying you"} | |
| {"text":"The first two may cause the third. The fact that you're a gay furry posting on 4chan says you probably don't have healthy IRL relationships and invest a lot of time into the internet. On a more mystical note, your desires are aligned with a world that does not exist, and as a result, you are also unable to have children. Most people in such a position would have joined a monastery, historically speaking. sigh, is there a worser combo than this? You could be a manic gay furry and destroy your life with drugs, alcohol, and STDs and also pooping in a bag as a result of a prolapsed anus."} | |
| {"text":"these are great. how much time do you spend on one?"} | |
| {"text":"Male figures"} | |
| {"text":"I give you permission to learn backgrounds or color next."} | |
| {"text":"post weenies"} | |
| {"text":"What do you do when you actually want to improve your anime drawing beyond just copying heads? I can draw figures and realistic portraits pretty well. I can copy a frame from a show or a manga panel or whatever, but when I try to apply that to free drawing/doodling I make ugly, deviantart tier heads. Should I try to draw a figure or a portrait and just stylize it real-time? I'm tired of making copies! tl;dr I want to draw cute girls from scratch My heads from scratch are ugly but i can copy well enough Help?"} | |
| {"text":"Don't copy anime until you can just do a regular academic study, like the people who actually draw anime can do"} | |
| {"text":"You tell me. Don't you watch anime?"} | |
| {"text":"no real person watches that slopshit, the only value in post-2003 anime is selling jaypigs to Brazilians"} | |
| {"text":"Its all relative to what you want to achieve, like you can be one of those Yaoi fags who always draw those head short so their massive muscular bodies appear bigger. But honestly aside from aesthetic choices if your drawing a human you are drawing a human. If you draw long enough you learn that its all the same shit. Also for my money the Loomis drawing that I pulled from probably could get away with making the head slightly bigger, he has other drawings in the book that have the head ever so slightly bigger.Plus its better for noobs to have the heads be slightly bigger then the opposite problem of shrunken head syndrome, I used to suffer from that a lot before instructors pointed it out to me"} | |
| {"text":"Of course not and no troon middle-eastern indian chimping about anime will ever change that."} | |
| {"text":"For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread. Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies."} | |
| {"text":"Is there a way to drag/zoom in CSP through the Space/Ctrl+Space shortcuts without also having to hold LMB (i.e. touch the tablet) at the same time?"} | |
| {"text":"Use the pen to pan, there's a window in your top right. Use the sliders underneath to zoom and rotate as well."} | |
| {"text":"Nvm fixed it to an extent - binding it to middle/right click does that, good enough."} | |
| {"text":"Yes, thank you!"} | |
| {"text":"You could use the sheet of glass trick. Set up a stack of books near a window, with a little mark for her chin. Get a pen that works on glass and ask her to shut one eye and trace some of what she sees. If the location is suitable, you could line up students from the class outside at different distances. Then talk about the drawing and ask her what she notices. Also, drawing a foreground figure or two is a far cry from filling a sheet of paper. Sometimes getting kids to experiment with backgrounds is a simple as giving them media that allows them to fill a page easily."} | |
| {"text":"How are you supposed to grow on social media as an artist?"} | |
| {"text":"Respond/interact with other accounts, it makes you more visible and others feel more engaged"} | |
| {"text":"monthly daily challenge things Please elaborate, Pepe-sensei."} | |
| {"text":"Did you try buying twitter premium?"} | |
| {"text":"inktober mermay pleinairpril figuary just off the top of my head, they're pretty difficult if you want every entry to look somewhat decent but for exposure posting daily like this in a common challenge is the best option"} | |
| {"text":"be good be active don't be from south asia"} | |
| {"text":"hates fun There's no fun. Doomerbro is depressed and he draws sad lolis. You're just a silly clown, that's why you don't understand."} | |
| {"text":"you forgot a word on that quote"} | |
| {"text":"bibisi hates fun"} | |
| {"text":"AMAZING AS ALWAYS LORD ORENJI SAMA IGNORE THOSE 2 LOSERS ABOVE ME ORZ ORZ"} | |
| {"text":"just tried to draw yotsuba"} | |
| {"text":"I like her anon, you should do more your lines are very clean"} | |
| {"text":"is this the flat-chested bitch that keeps banning me for uploading furry porn? why is an artist using /ic/ to share their work?!"} | |
| {"text":"Sure lets just flood this board with 50 threads everyday with random people posting their single work instead of using existing threads. Way to prove that you are just a tourist"} | |
| {"text":"@grok put this character in a bikini"} | |
| {"text":"Learn how to use the website stupid newfag"} | |
| {"text":"i believe it. but man i live in south america and i dont have the money for it."} | |
| {"text":"honse <3"} | |
| {"text":"She still doesn't have a name yet, any suggestions? I normally draw fanarts but ive been drawing this girl alot always. ><"} | |
| {"text":"I'd recommend LeBron"} | |
| {"text":"one eye, call her cyclops"} | |
| {"text":"Lequanisha"} | |
| {"text":"You guys are amazing i hope yall go far in life"} | |
| {"text":"Your other thread is still up. Are you a newfag?"} | |
| {"text":"General dedicated to posting and discussing art of either: 1. Manmade objects, vehicles, tool, weapons etc. (of any kind and any historical era, as long as they fall in the ballpark of \"technology\") and fictional derivatives of such 2. Objects,vehicles, creatures etc. that aesthetically fall into the visual space of mecha/robot/artificial/cybernetics etc. regardless of level of realism. Helpful to mention the level of realism, if any, you are taking into account in the art."} | |
| {"text":"I would love to see these with shading"} | |
| {"text":"Trying currently, bought greyscale markers for trad."} | |
| {"text":"some mechas from recently"} | |
| {"text":"Hey mechbro when you initially started drawing mechs was your perspective bad? How did you go about getting better at this? Did you use grids and practice simple point perspectives and kept you simple mechs respective to your perspective? Perspective seems to be the one thing I struggle with the most and I want to know how someone of your skill approached their studies?"} | |
| {"text":"armored core inspired mecha sketch"} | |
| {"text":"Art is ultimately about enjoying the art of making something and spending time polishing it. AI can automate third worlders trying to get fast xitter clout drawing moeblobs and porn to appeal to coomers and zoomers, but it cannot automate the meditative state you get from working on the fine details to distract you from this dying, senseless world."} | |
| {"text":"i thank god I've never drawn a dick in my life"} | |
| {"text":"ever since AI I deleted almost my entire 4chan drawthread delivery folder because it wasn't good enough except for 2 artists. It's like eating healthy good food (AI) and then going back to junk food (drawfags) and it just makes you sick."} | |
| {"text":"me me me me me me Who gaf? So they should be punished by having everything they draw contribute to their replacement? \"My definition of art means ai is ok or whatever\" you are a FAGGOT and you deserve to DIE"} | |
| {"text":"pyw /g/saar"} | |
| {"text":"You could have been drawing while writing those essays."} | |
| {"text":"How the fuck do you even draw anime? every other good artist uses entirely different proportions and stylistic choices"} | |
| {"text":"every other good artist uses entirely different proportions If you can see it you can copy it. Just do more copies until you figure it out."} | |
| {"text":"Well chat I messed up, I ran out of space. Might have to redraw to complete the rest of her head and ears."} | |
| {"text":"De-horsefied...can't have shit in Tracen"} | |
| {"text":"This thread is designed to be a space for women, by women. Fujos, Yumejos, and OC stacies welcome. If you are not a XX chromosome woman, do not post in this thread. Not looking for male opinions, male art, etc. Rules: the males must be attractive women must be drawn with the female-gaze in mind. No /femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that. If you want female advice on \"how do I draw x\" then go to /beg/. Nobody gives a fuck. No male yurifags, no faceless dudes, no femboy, no shota/ loli, no futa, no guro, no derailing thread. Nothing created to appeal to the male gaze. Thank you. If it does not serve women, it does not belong here. If your bait isn't accompanied by your own work, we do not care. Previous Thread:"} | |
| {"text":"Please post more big men! I also draw them and it is really nice to see a like-minded girlie. This size difference is driving me crazy, I love it. The colors and effects you used are so pretty! I don't know what you did on the dark pinks and blues, but the textures there really sell the retro anime look for me."} | |
| {"text":"beautiful~ sexy cool.. BASED 1/2"} | |
| {"text":"i always crave your delicious big men..thank you for feeding me queen cutie pie!!! majestic~ sexyy 2/2"} | |
| {"text":"going through the animation exercise list, last two featuring my ocs"} | |
| {"text":"almost forgot this one featuring my alien boy Oda~"} | |
| {"text":"Thoughts ? Used to draw comics years ago for my school paper and I haven’t really doodled anything in ages. Had this idea in my head and thought it turned out pretty good"} | |
| {"text":"I dont get it, so the guy hopes Q-bert did NOT sign up, but Q-bert clearly did sign up This seems to be a frequent or foreshadowed event for the guy since he had the thought to say he hoped Q-bert 'did NOT sign up' but he still came?? On a first read I question the motivation of the main character, and the comic relief isnt great either so I'd give the manga a 4/10 as it stands"} | |
| {"text":"Do you not know who Q-Bert is anon? I would have added another text bubble in the last panel because I wanna know what first panel guy said. I’ll give it a strong 6/10"} | |
| {"text":"I used a free for commercial use outline to make this ruff sketch"} | |
| {"text":"Next time worry less about legal nonsense and more about finding an actually good ref to steal from."} | |
| {"text":"This."} | |
| {"text":"how the fuck are you supposed to shade? I picked up this loomis faggots book and it doesn’t explain it at all. Pic related is my attempt at first exercise. This is infuriating, why does for example my moustache look so much more retarded than his? It’s literally called “Fun with A Pencil” and says to use a pencil so why can’t I do it? Why is my shit so retarded and bad?"} | |
| {"text":"For me, I always decide a percentage before doing anything. 0% is no shading at all, 100% is black as the ace of spades. Also, fuck Loomis."} | |
| {"text":"but you didn't do any shading there"} | |
| {"text":"puke with a pencil"} | |
| {"text":"It looks like you don't draw very often, if at all, before this - so why did you expect your lines to look any good? It's some of your first drawings, give it time. You can't expect to be ripped from doing a single pushup."} | |
| {"text":"damn, i love drawing cartoon faces from the 50s so much it looks so appealing i cant wait to get commissions for my oc \"old fat man with a pipe\""} | |
| {"text":"6 years of drawing and im still dogshit"} | |
| {"text":"thoughts?"} | |
| {"text":"welcome to the club, man"} | |
| {"text":"You are brown and you were probably filtered by college entrance exams which measured IQ"} | |
| {"text":"Sure, as if people didn't just watch TV at home or go the pub before"} | |
| {"text":"ok"} | |
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| {"text":"Surely"} | |
| {"text":"Claiming D4. I promise it won't be too good."} | |
| {"text":"I lied!"} | |
| {"text":"Looks good, my dude."} | |
| {"text":"Thanks, my dude."} | |
| {"text":"KWAB"} | |
| {"text":"zoomer is demoralized by a clown making a balloon dog also that's AI"} | |
| {"text":"I don't even get the point of this thread. Is it that you think it's some insane skillmog to draw with your fingertip? It's the exact same motion as drawing with a pencil, the pencil is just there because our fingers don't leave a mark. Is it the short drawing time? It's a sketch. It looks like shit btw"} | |
| {"text":"I hope you don't anon, however us third worlders drawing on our chinese phones with cracked screens will always out perform you if you're not willing to make the best of what you currently have If you loved doing it; it would be easy"} | |
| {"text":"I'm a third worlder with no drawing tablet, no drawing tools. It's over. You can still improve with grit and your high trust status from getting commissions."} | |
| {"text":"Post still lives you've painted and talk about still lives"} | |
| {"text":"not a still life but 4 more isolated objects from the same day:"} | |
| {"text":"thought it was shit from the catalog thumbnail click thought it was a pile of chocolates from thread thumbnail expand nice brush, anon, i can smell the varnish from this image"} | |
| {"text":"I like these in particular, do you construct them properly at the start? I have trouble with copying things I see because I tend to just do the outline first, which works sometimes but does get wobbly here and there."} | |
| {"text":"I do a rough outline of the blocky shapes first, but nothing elaborate. I don't have any pictures because I've never saved any wips of them. Some objects require more delicate outline work, if the shape is particularly easy to draw incorrectly."} | |
| {"text":"I see, thanks anon. l have to keep practicing and it'll probably come easier sooner or later."} | |
| {"text":"Why are you all so zealously against AI? I am not trying to trigger you, I am just genuinely curious. This hatred and trying to cancel AI is identical to when the Industrial Revolution started being common, and people thought that agriculture and manual labor would be over. Turns out all that was false. If you are against AI because you have a fear that human-made art will go extinct, that fear is irrational."} | |
| {"text":"You will be againt AI too, just wait."} | |
| {"text":"The industrial revolution was a mistake"} | |
| {"text":"Get used to the new world, old man. Everything done to restrict AI and datamining will now only strengthen the corpos."} | |
| {"text":"You're just an operator of a machine and call yourself an artist. Ofc you can make VNs with it but was that really why anyone learns art? The equivalent to downloading a mod and calling it game dev. I want to create something that is mine, not just enable, maintain, and market some imitation product made by a computer/Indian"} | |
| {"text":"Everything done to restrict AI and datamining will now only strengthen the corpos. \"Erm, everything you do to stop bad thing, actually help bad thing, hur hur hur\" Shut up."} | |
| {"text":"I need as many guides as possible for drawing large Butts that look like this."} | |
| {"text":"stop samefagging, go draw"} | |
| {"text":"nta, can you stop falling for the bait, you look like a raped retard screaming with your ass wide open."} | |
| {"text":"shut the fuck up"} | |
| {"text":"where are you in art joungey?"} | |
| {"text":"I followed this, but jumped from confused to exploring, because I'm not a retard."} | |
| {"text":"So I started doing one course and kind of petered out but it got my lines a lot smoother. Now I'm doing Artwod as practice and I think its doing good work on making me practice digitally and firm up my fundamentals."} | |
| {"text":"right here"} | |
| {"text":"I'm at the end of this chart which is to the right and not visible"} | |
| {"text":"I want to quit but I can't I feel bad when I draw but I feel even worse when I don't draw"} | |
| {"text":"who /nightdraw/ here? quiet in serene with headphones(lo-fi hiphop beats/etc lol) if you please cozy lamp and blanket dim glow of screens and orange light of the lamp the sound of the pen/paper/etc hitting the paper this is what made me start drawing more too"} | |
| {"text":"yes but audiobooks, esp. large data statistics books or deep history."} | |
| {"text":"Drawing while listening to trance and bigbeat somehow made me better"} | |
| {"text":"I should nightdraw more, thanks for the advice, OP!"} | |
| {"text":"I draw at night less because it's comfy, and more so because I'm a horrific nightowl and have a terrible internal clock. Half the time I'm going to bed well after the sun has risen again. I live like a raging party boy, but without all the fun social aspects and experiences they have, ha ha. I assume they mean that because Australia is on the other side of the world, they're able to see a lot more streamers late at night because of the time difference. So when it's late at night in Australia, it's prime time for the rest of the English speaking world."} | |
| {"text":"you aren't supposed to listen to trance, and I hope you aren't listening to classic trance, or else I am going to find out where you live and I will have to kill you personally"} | |
| {"text":"When do you know that art is not for (You)? t. /beg/ going on 6 years"} | |
| {"text":"good shit, man, indicates a lot of volume with just a few strokes. That's currently one of my biggest issues, I do hundreds of tiny tweaks and spend way too much time to get results."} | |
| {"text":"That's amazing, and I suspect it's a super educational practice.Do you get your references from any one particular place/site?"} | |
| {"text":"You think so? thanks! Funnily enough I think I struggle with not really taking the time with those tweaks, I don't refine or finish often, and it bothers me. The problems you have are solutions I want and vice versa."} | |
| {"text":"I just go on pinterest and search for w/e I'm studying at the time if I want real photos. For style/stylization studies I mostly browse artstation."} | |
| {"text":"I don't want to look ridiculous to normies or my entourage, I just want to stop drawing like a braindead toddler and draw like a npc, to at least avoid bullying (At least to make up for the fact that I am am a KHHV incel loser with no friends or gf)"} | |
| {"text":"What’s /ic/’s thought on this book? Good place to start?"} | |
| {"text":"Funny how every single thread on this board no matter how innocuous always devolves into madness"} | |
| {"text":"Great book, fun to draw from. Only problem is you need to know the basics of perspective and drawing forms so it's a good first figure book but not a day 1 beginner book. More like after you've practiced fundamentals for a few months Better than Loomis for a lot of people"} | |
| {"text":"I'm pretty sure the book has sections on basic forms and perspective."} | |
| {"text":"It does. How to draw the marvel way is honestly just a really great book, it goes over everything at a very basic level and in a fun way with superheroes. There was supposed to be a new modern version but I think it got canceled"} | |
| {"text":"It's women's fault, if they didn't gatekeep pussy so much, especially with ethnics, autism wouldn't be so off the charts of lately Don't lie niggers this book was a circlejerk from Stan Lee and for his clique of autistic retarded friends"} | |
| {"text":"Forgot to add, password is always www.itzmx.com"} | |
| {"text":"No, Thank YOU anon! you're the goat!"} | |
| {"text":"the realink michelangelo link is down for the artstudio pack (_) also I got the davinci packs on gofile YUhSMGNITTZMeTluYjJacGJHVXVhVzh2WkM5SVFrUnRUMkk9"} | |
| {"text":"Grab a handful of brushes Can never get the results that's shown in the brush thumbnail Randomly view a tutorial about making comics Recommended to draw at a high resolution like A4 size Suddenly getting the result from the brush preview Well color me retarded. I didn't think to make the canvas bigger for different results."} | |
| {"text":"link is up for me, or they just fixed it"} | |
| {"text":"Post doodles n sketches"} | |
| {"text":"Girls"} | |
| {"text":"thanks bud"} | |
| {"text":"bewbs"} | |
| {"text":"Random"} | |
| {"text":"Peehole fisting"} | |
| {"text":"the vanishing points meet at the station point at a right angle, correct? but there are many ways for that to be true, as seen in pic related. so how do you place the station point correctly in an established scene?"} | |
| {"text":"the pavement stones That would only be the case if the camera were facing the same direction as the stones. The camera is facing slightly more toward the front of the building than the side. but you wouldnt know its a square True, but ideally you'd have an object in the scene that you do know the rough dimensions of so you can find a diagonal. It doesn't necessarily need to be square. But you do need that third point either way. Even in the ideal case if your center line is actually in the center it's acting as the 0 degree vanishing point."} | |
| {"text":"see pic related for what i mean. regardless of how the stones are facing they make a pattern you can use to trace their convergence in that shot to a rough area, and it's not where the other anon placed the center of vision."} | |
| {"text":"Why would the stones converge toward the center of vision? It converges toward it's vanishing point, like everything else."} | |
| {"text":"hm, yeah, dumb assumption on my part."} | |
| {"text":"How to use any of these nonsense in mine then. The fun is, very hard so... Is it, the more-god, then?"} | |
| {"text":"ITT: We draw beary"} | |
| {"text":"He can't even cheat well"} | |
| {"text":"You just know a third worlder made this. Browns, blacks and poverty people always have this distinguishable style or habit that I can tell."} | |
| {"text":"Are you sure it's a trace? It reminds me a lot of the early shitty newgrounds porn game artwork; stuff like Meet'n'fuck or Frank's Adventure... Well, maybe they were all tracers, haha."} | |
| {"text":"He Who?"} | |
| {"text":"Frank's Adventure that one was entirely traces and straight up stolen art"} | |
| {"text":"A lot of tracers give themselves away with the details they modify, in this case the huge tits and anime face."} | |
| {"text":"/ic/ getting mogged by a kid What excuses are you going to use this time?"} | |
| {"text":"Where's your copy? Hmmm?? ;3"} | |
| {"text":"I want to fund hiring some caribbean gangsters to beat the shit out of that fat autistic fuck."} | |
| {"text":"It must be very, very lonely for people like this. You share your stuff online and all you get are vapid comments like \"this is so inspiring ::fire emoji::\" and \"Brilliant!\" and \"love this so much\". Vapid comments and the only thing going for you is your age."} | |
| {"text":"honestly, it belongs in the zoo"} | |
| {"text":"getting mogged by a kid do people actually care about this? im happy for him, he has a hobby he enjoys and is good at the world is way too big to think you're going 1v1 against every single artist on the planet"} | |
| {"text":"I’ve been drawing stuff like this since 2020, and I mainly focus on digital art i did on apps like ibis paint or ms paint. Most of my work is of 90s male cartoon furry characters that I want to fuck or my husbandos, but I draw them in a adorable toony style that’s sort of my own spin on things. Lately, I’ve been feeling kind of stuck with a few aspects of my art, and I’d really appreciate some constructive feedback or tips from anyone willing to help. One of the things I struggle with is the fucking shading and shadows. My drawings are usually in flat color, and whenever I try to add lighting or depth, it just looks too off. I’m not sure if I’m overthinking it or just missing something about how light and color theory works. Also, I’ve noticed that my outlines sometimes look kind of deformed or wobbly not in a cool stylistic way, but more like they’re not structured enough. It’s frustrating because I can sort of see the style I want in my head, but I’m having trouble getting it down on the canvas. Majority of my art is influenced by some other toony artists I’ve known online like minus8 for example, and that guy motivated me to post here and other rule 34 sites try to grow more seriously. If anyone has advice, resources, or just general thoughts, I’d love to hear it."} | |
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| {"text":"Anyone signing up for anything this month/Q1? I want feedback from someone who knows what the fuck they're doing."} | |
| {"text":"?"} | |
| {"text":"Tell them that they're hopeless and to pick up fishing or something instead."} | |
| {"text":"miserable crab"} | |
| {"text":"Embodied Josh took this course he took a lot of courses, over 5k$ worth of courses, in fact"} | |
| {"text":"is the one in OP available somewhere?"} | |
| {"text":"Thanks"} | |
| {"text":"Does graffitti have a place in /ic/ has anone done graffiti lawfully?"} | |
| {"text":"It's the only piece of graffiti that never got covered up and it's already been several years since I did it. it's on google maps and even got made into a Pokestop and deemed it a \"mural\". doing graffiti lawfully Kind of defeats the purpose in my mind. Look for an area in your community you don't think anyone wouldn't mind you tagging and try to beautify it. Not the other way around where people deface nice things with scrawl. I like stencils because the end result looks nice and is easy to pull off. I basically drew out the anime girl and had to think how to cut out the pieces so that when I would spray it, the negative space would work out to be the dark part of the image. You have to think in reverse and make sure the pieces won't fall out from not having an \"anchor\" to the rest of the piece. The top two fingers making the V fell off afterwards and you can see why. After I finished cutting out the anime girl black parts of the image I made another stencil that was a cut out square roughly the size of the outside edges of the anime girl for the yellow part. Waited until evening, sprayed the yellow square, briefly waited for it to dry, then slapped the anime girl stencil part over it and sprayed that with black spraypaint. Someone even walked by while I was doing it and largely ignored me. I like graffiti because it feels honest where the artist doesn't need credit and if it stays up, that means people liked it. You could turn a desolate dumpster or otherwise crappy area into something beautiful. Godspeed."} | |
| {"text":"Nice tag anon. how long did it take you to stencil that out? Would you change anything if you could do it again? Finding an unassuming place is the key to it, you want to pick a place where people would not notice unless they actually explore their environment/don't have it in their direct view when walking, driving, etc. You might make a fucking masterpiece, but all it takes is a few nimby mofos to ruin it for everyone. the more complaints in a short amount of time, the higher likelihood of your tag getting covered. Also helps to you know, not get caught/gives you more time to work. Oh, and also it is not a great idea to cover up any text or numbers, those are there for a reason and your tag will be scraped off and piss off whomever is forced to do it. I usually us multiple stencils. Spray paint the background, and slowly over awhile start adding on the layers. Using the canvas to its full potential can really bring out a work. get creative."} | |
| {"text":"The ancient Romans had a name for it. I think it was called a Fresco. Few survive because art done in this style is often difficult to preserve."} | |
| {"text":"Vaughan Bodé contributed damn near as much as Moebius but he's tragic and horny so we don't talk about him"} | |
| {"text":"I like street art, but let's be honest, the vast majority of graffiti is nigh unreadable squiggles that barely constitute legible writing, much less art, or anything to be appreciated. There's also the problem of graffiti, when not being alien glyphs, is often being highly pretentious political statements, like banksy... I think I'd prefer the squiggles. All this said, I always wanted to give street art a go, but don't think I ever can. Beyond being a pussy, I think I'd over think every location and feel bad about potentially vandalising someone's private property (a big no no in my eyes). When I was a kid people would spray paint our front fence and mail box - it's very demoralising and just makes your house look like utter shit, and I wouldn't want to do that to someone else, even if I'm doing a nice piece of art. Cute piece."} | |
| {"text":"Probably a big part of that was the institution of art as a discipline, they didn't do it for fun. Maybe Europeans are just enjoying the artistic freedom they never had."} | |
| {"text":"You can see sort of the same thing with superhero comics, the \"type.\" The heroes are all 9-10 heads tall, muscular, square-jawed with low brows and narrow eyes (see Bruce Wayne, Superman, etc.). Even if there is variation between artists, most artists still develop a type of their own (or borrow it from what came before). The exception would be someone like Mort Drucker, who seemed never to draw the same face twice, and could not only capture likenesses brilliantly in his caricatures, but could invent distinct characters from imagination from a seemingly endless store of material (the latter skill almost certainly developed as a result of the former). Picrel is a Burger King ad featuring all invented Drucker people."} | |
| {"text":"The big takeaway I've learned from this thread is people generally don't look at older works in anime or have never seen anything that's not the immediately current thing on crunchyroll or whatever, because this wasn't really a problem before the 90s and the bubble bursting. the drastic shift in budgets forced staff to find ways to build shorthand contexts they could use on multiple series right away, leading to alot less viability for unique styles and more of a lean towards those shorthands. This became especially true when cels were finally phased out. That's not to say there aren't a fewthings here and there that don't experiment. the mecha genre especially loved trying new ways to draw characters, with Xabungle and Escaflowne being standouts for having the most interesting takes. in short: stop looking at the same shit all the time and thinking that only the averages matter."} | |
| {"text":"Dunbine edges out Xabungle for interesting media imho"} | |
| {"text":"Anime from the '80s and '90s is freaking awesome. The introduction of CGI was a turning point for the worse. Even the \"simple\" styles of the early '80s are wonderful and very appealing."} | |
| {"text":"I am very new to drawing. Right now my process is drawing the outlines with regular lead pencils and then color with dry colored pencils But it makes a mess as you can see in the character's face. It looks like the lead is smudging. Would better pencils and paper help here? Anything I can do so lead is secured on paper? What are my alternatives that allow correction when I make mistakes? I would like to draw outlines with lead because it is erasable. But mixing them with me colored pencils seems to be a no go. I heard about those dough like erasers that can erase dry/wax based colored pencils (so I can use black dry pencil instead) but they don't seem to be very good"} | |
| {"text":"new color1 Start with a graphite pencil to build your sense of value first."} | |
| {"text":"Aria Good taste. The zoomers here don't even know this quality show exists. Best shit to watch on a Sunday evening with a nice cold drink."} | |
| {"text":"Wait...that IS from Aria, right? Or did you just steal the design and remove details?"} | |
| {"text":"Sort of reminds me of tarot cards."} | |
| {"text":"Who's man enough to take this week's ArbiterWolf challenge?"} | |
| {"text":"And your reference"} | |
| {"text":"i do exactly that and i still can improve and experiment somewhat no fucking excuses"} | |
| {"text":"Damn, shading is HARD. First time i managed to create an fully-shaded face without it turning into a complete travesty. I know you set out a value scale and assign it to your surfaces, but somehow i always mess it up and just YOLO that shit... Gave her too much cheek i guess, and the nose and mouth are pointing in different directions, but whatever. You can do it, maybe try a different method if you struggle. I've been banging my head against the loomis method for months - actually now i'm feeling might be a bit of a beginners trap (as a /beg/, you're gonna be happy if u can draw a box in perspective, much less sculpt an abstract head shape). ~6 weeks ago i pirated the Watt Atelier's Head drawing fundi course and Brian Knox's approach (simplified Reilly method) is much more forgiving for portraits."} | |
| {"text":"Maybe. I've been drawing for years and im still beg. I decided recently to do one last push of studying art to see if i can get good, and if not im calling it quits. I'm not quite as bad as that guy, but i should be much better than i am. Just stupid i guess."} | |
| {"text":"Ougg he's so cute!"} | |
| {"text":"Crossposting. I'm going to attempt to ink, watercolor, and pencil in this sketch. I don't know how to recreate the rainbow effect traditionally though, or if the composition looks weird. I might have my OC hold out a finger with a butterfly. Not sure about the foot touching the water either. Bunny boys replenish my soul."} | |
| {"text":"Can someone send a link to the 'cord? It expired in the fyi. Thanks!"} | |
| {"text":"Just comfirmed that the link here is still active, Try loging back into discord to see if it's working for you."} | |
| {"text":"Is there a rule to how much a value has to be for a drawing to start looking like a 3d form?"} | |
| {"text":"lmaooooooo"} | |
| {"text":"Yes, if you can easily identify the core shadow as dark and the lights as lighter. If I were to color pick the lights and shadow from this image they’d look very similar and mushy, with no dark and light color too."} | |
| {"text":"in a round about way, yes. if the values are too close together it will be washed out. stark contrasts amplify shapes."} | |
| {"text":"The amount of value isn't relevant, you can get away with having literally 2 values. Just look at any typical hacky stencil art traced from a photo. The problem with your picture is that there is no clear direction where the light is coming from. Areas of light and shadow seem random, or undefined. A possible cause is a bad reference. Flat boring studio lighting doesn't make for the best refs, but if the ref has really nice and clear shadows even a bad artist should be able to make a decent drawing out of it. For a drawing to look 3D, the shading needs to be consistent, clearly defined and logical. The rest is perspective and construction (not strictly values related). All of this you can get from a reference, like the drawer of the OP image tried to. If the end result doesn't look good, it's either a bad ref, or a failure in observation. Not because there's not enough value."} | |
| {"text":"loooooooooooooooooooooool"} | |
| {"text":"Does an app literally matter for a better drawing? I've always seen every professional and tutor uses a specific app"} | |
| {"text":"supposedly from a super secret chinese website or sum, fr"} | |
| {"text":"I tried MyPaint of all things recently, and it's lovely to draw in. But there's a problem (two in fact). It has basically no image editing tools - I really just need resize, and it doesn't even have that. And my mouse would randomly stop working in the program every 20 minutes, where I'd then have to relaunch it. That shit combined was bad enough to make me switch to Drawpile which has the MyPaint brush engine built in. I wish it was a little more polished, because it genuinely reminded me of drawing in MS Paint '98 in how no-bullshit it was, while having everything else I wanted. It has this \"infinite\" canvas starting out that you make smaller instead of bigger and most of the screen clutter disabled by default (easy to enable), just really neat. Other than that, SAI is the best for my style of painting, I've found. That Watercolor brush just melts colors like warm butter. CSP is still the best bang for buck and I'm used to it. But I pretty much hate painting in at this point, something just always feels off. Good for image editing and I guess drawing."} | |
| {"text":"What did he mean by this"} | |
| {"text":"No, what matters is how comfortable you are with it so you can just muscle memory everything related to the software and shortcuts and use your brain to focus on drawing."} | |
| {"text":"What is a good paper to make a flipbook for animation?"} | |
| {"text":"i use post it notes at my work"} | |
| {"text":"Makes a thread about flipbooks Doesnt include a gif of flipping the flipbook As usual, Op is a massive faggot."} | |
| {"text":"I'm entirely convinced that people here recommend drawabox just to get /beg/s to quit drawing because of how boring and tedious the course is, giving them the false idea that all art is that mind-numbing. Like look at this shit bro, this does nothing for you while being extremely annoying to do. At the very least, if someone is insistent on drawabox, they should have at least 6 months of drawing behind them, but then the course would be useless and redundant anyway"} | |
| {"text":"IMO the reason we get so many threads is because Drawabox proponents are rather sensitive to critiques. The 50/50 rule isnt particularly useful, since the very early lessons arent particularly useful to approach drawing things of your interest. If for example you took a drawin 101 class, the things like drawing from observation, measuring, values etc... are instantly appliable since you can always use the new observational drawing techniques to study art you like, or to draw around you. Theres no need to go full retard about form either, simply showing how you could draw the 4 basic shapes and then simply telling the student to go out and draw box like objects (televisions, phones, drawers) cylinder like objects (vases, arms to an extent etc) for a long time should be enough without the need for [arbitrary number] challenge. And another counterpoint, the author seems to imply that the only way to get good is to do exercises you absolutely hate for half of your time and then drawing what you enjoy for the another half of the time, thats just nonsense. you should just draw what you want and study things directly related to whatever is it youre trying to make. If you are a wagie and you only have 1 hour to draw, are you really using half of your free time to do something you absolutely hate?"} | |
| {"text":"Drawabox proponents Where are these people? These are just permabeg circlejerk threads anon. Every one of these threads devolves into \"200 box brown nigger person look at bad art heckin kekerino my fellow redditors please updoot my performative racism\"."} | |
| {"text":"Fair. Cant say youre wrong, but on reddit and youtube you can find these guys and they wont accept any form of criticism to the course. My main frustration is that they dont seem to understand the difference of something being challeging but engaging vs Torture (Op's pic)"} | |
| {"text":"That's because they're all capital P Permabegs. They don't like drawing, none of it is engaging for them. They just want to will giantboobanimegirl onto paper without putting in the effort and blame everyone but themselves for not being able to do so."} | |
| {"text":"Draw a box is only good for getting criticism on basic perspective and form. If you doing anything beyond 0-1 lessons then yeah you will be a perma beg. Its suggested because its free, you get a course with community feedback. Which people on ic love to complain about but have only offered money alternatives. I am sure if a better form and perspective course that was free and easily found was offered that it would be suggested instead. Also Hozure a riot artist suggest DAB in his own discord, he is the standard for industry. You should not be talking out of your ass. That's perma beg mentality there, you don't have to use DAB but you don't just learn how to do perspective form by drawing shitty animu 3/4 heads. There are specific fundamentals you need direction on and both of those separates why some artists symbol draw and why other people don't. If people understood it intitutively we wouldn't see many perma begs or people hard stuck int. Perspective and form courses are boring. I have yet to see a fun one. If you can't sit down and do basics of those fundies then just literally just do 10 minutes of it a day if you are incaptable of sitting. Any new artists or people can't draw, advice I give for people who think like this is, art isn't gonna be all fun. There is technical shit you have to learn and it will be boring. What you find boring will be diff from other people but that is part of the proccess of drawing and painting. There are people who hate rendering but like end result. People who hate studying value because its boring but benefit from it. If you wanted all fun hobby, quit art now. It's very rare to enjoy entirity of art. People quit art regardless if they do DAB because it gets harder, if you don't want to do it at the boring parts then good luck getting to level you wish to. It's why \"Just draw\" is even a saying. People who just can't stand the boring parts stop drawing due to it regardless what that boring thing is."} | |
| {"text":"How do you start drawing something like this from imagination"} | |
| {"text":"just imagine cloth and then draw what you see in your head o algo"} | |
| {"text":"by learning the principles of how it is formed."} | |
| {"text":"Cloth folds are very rarely referenced instead of constructed anew"} | |
| {"text":"there are just 7 types of folds"} | |
| {"text":"Hm? Not him but OP's was drawn from life with a 95%+ probability. What they did back then was often to soak a piece of drape in plaster or clay, I don't recall exactly, position it, wait for it to dry, and then paint it. It helps with keeping the drape unchanged, so that it could be studied for extended period of time. Same as with anything: study from life or reference meticulously at first, many times, monochromatically. Then train memory and or invention, starting by articulating the main volumes and going finer from there. (haven't been there in a while, wtf with those captchas)"} | |
| {"text":"I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FACES I CAN LITERALLY DRAW ANYTHING ELSE JUST FINE... BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FACES??????????????? IT FEELS LIKE I'M FUCKING DRUNK OR SOMETHING"} | |
| {"text":"Yeah, i'm learning this the hard way... Drawing animal faces is way easier in comparison, you just have to add the defining feature of the animal and that's it, it'll read as what it's supposed to be... If only people had the same face..."} | |
| {"text":"stop being autistic and draw human faces"} | |
| {"text":"I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I CAN LITERALLY DRAW ANYTHING ELSE JUST FINE... BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FECES??????????????? IT FEELS LIKE I'M FUCKING DRUNK OR SOMETHING"} | |
| {"text":"I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I HATE DRAWING HUMAN FECES I CAN LITERALLY DRAW ANYTHING ELSE JUST FINE... BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FECES??????????????? IT FEELS LIKE I'M FUCKING DRUNK OR SOMETHING"} | |
| {"text":"What's the best ref for expressions and line placement? When I'm dealing with stuff like furrowed or raised eyebrows I don't know how many scrunched lines is too much"} | |
| {"text":"Nothing amazing just wanted to post this sketch somewhere."} | |
| {"text":"To be fair this is one of the best threads on /ic/"} | |
| {"text":"Is it really consistently that bad?"} | |
| {"text":"I don't like to shit on people, but every time I pop in it's the same five homos having a social club and giving one-liner critiques that don't really help."} | |
| {"text":"Idk I try to help when someone ask for critique. Maybe you focus too much on bad stuff."} | |
| {"text":"Considering most of the threads here are /v/ tier ragebait nothing of value got lost"} | |
| {"text":"how do I tell if I enjoy doing art, or just the idea of being an artist and forcing it to give my life meaning"} | |
| {"text":"Are you sure it's that? Does the lack of creativity manifest as not knowing what to draw when you grab pen and paper? A lot of the time, fear of failure is a big roadblock. It happens even to people who'd you consider advanced artists. A friend of mine who paints really well, and other couple people I know who have really great output, all told me that sometimes in one way or another they feel like they get this anxiety about their successful work being just random chance, and that they don't really know how to draw, and just got lucky. Often the biggest roadblock is these mental barriers. But, if you're just not sure about what to do, that's normal. Only people I see who are able to just draw something on the spot, are people who draw constantly. But you said you get the urge to create art. Doesn't that urge manifest as ideas? I myself have been trying to just not think and draw more. Currently just throwing myself at painting random environments to practice contrast and color mixing. But even with that clear goal, there can be a lot of hesitation."} | |
| {"text":"People who like to draw don't think about the title of \"artist\" except when they try to show other people their art and they say \"wow! So when are you going to work for xyz company???\" Artists only call themselves artists when they're making money or literally still a kid/teen and think they're going to graduate and immediately make money off of their art... Or have a high school mentality and think calling themselves an artist will get their parents pleading for them to get a job to stop."} | |
| {"text":"dip your toes into other creative hobbies or ones that require hands on input like model building, car repair, or wood working and see if you enjoy that more"} | |
| {"text":"cornf"} | |
| {"text":"Nobody who actually enjoys art has to ask if they do or don't."} | |
| {"text":"This may be a stupid question but, What makes a pose express that a person is feeling awkwardness or that is uncomfortable? I've tried to look for tutorials or comments about this but everything is just about dinamic poses and most of those look relaxed or confident."} | |
| {"text":"I want a tomgirl gf so badly... I think I found my calling... To draw cute flustered tomgirls..."} | |
| {"text":"look into body language and character acting stuff. Usually, a closed off or \"inward\" pose expresses discomfort (think arms crossed, slouched, knees turned in, chin down) almost as if a person is curling up to protect themself and hide from the world. Try making your character take up less space - notice how in the reference image, the character is surrounded by blank space on either side and their arms are squeezed against their body. Conversely, \"open\" gestures signal confidence, strength, and relaxation. This is pretty important knowledge in communication and business jobs too, as your body language really does make a difference on how you're viewed. Our monkey brains are hard-wired to look for signs of hostility or fear, which could signal a nearby threat. Next time you have a conversation, try actively thinking about keeping an open and relaxed (but not too relaxed) posture, and you'll notice people will be more amicable and take you a little more seriously. It also subconsciously helps you feel more confident. bottom line, inwards/defensive poses are what you're looking for, so try to avoid having outwards facing body parts or wide stances."} | |
| {"text":"Are we looking at the same image? If you look at the skirt the folds from where its pulled down are much more accurate than AI is likely to produce and theres slight transparency showing the outline of her hips. AI would have major trouble doing that on account of the fact it lines up with the legs while being subtle. the ankle might be weird but that could be explained by maybe taking a break in the middle of the process and a bit of tunnel vision"} | |
| {"text":"tomgirl Anon... that's not the same as tomboy. Unless you're a chaser I guess, then go right ahead."} | |
| {"text":"2026 What is your first official (meaning you drew + finished it 100%) work of the New Year? Mine's is pic related"} | |
| {"text":"As far as I can figure, this is my first completed work of the year. I love my wife."} | |
| {"text":"bluesky Is it good or just FoTM social media site?"} | |
| {"text":"Can you prove it that you're Shinda292?"} | |
| {"text":"why you would even ask something so silly? You're right, most straight men can tell when a woman or a gay man draw something aimed at them, the art always miss something like there's no sexual energy, no desire, it's just a generic naked woman looking at the camera, it's AI prompt / Sakimeme tier of boring slop."} | |
| {"text":"Idk it's just another place to put my drawings for me. I get slightly better engagement on there than on twitter."} | |
| {"text":"If I start right now as at 0 experience, how long would it take to escape /beg/? nigga"} | |
| {"text":"You're probably completely retarded if you can't do [Thing] properly after 1000 hours even"} | |
| {"text":"Scientists recently came out and said the 10k hours thing is bullshit and you get good at stuff way before that"} | |
| {"text":"what does tmmswe have to do with howies and drawing???"} | |
| {"text":"fucking no Why can't you people set realistic goals? It's why you can't stick with it, you expect too much and put yourself on a timeline. Draw for today."} | |
| {"text":"There is Hope (Keep Hope Alive Edition)"} | |
| {"text":"Im drawing things you people couldnt even begin to comprehend. These things defy all known laws of physics and break the calculations of the human brain."} | |
| {"text":"Stop making your mother cry."} | |
| {"text":"That looks like a cat I have one of those"} | |
| {"text":"Kyubey?"} | |
| {"text":"show feets"} | |
| {"text":"just be female on 4chan bro"} | |
| {"text":"Post work stations"} | |
| {"text":"not enough funko pops for your taste?"} | |
| {"text":"A funkopop would be less corposlop than that desk. It looks like the office cubicle no one works at. All the personality of a freshly built McMansion."} | |
| {"text":"a desk doesnt need a personality, it has to be functional. this allows me to work long hours both at my remote job and when drawing. i dislike decorations and clutter. have a nice day"} | |
| {"text":"Looks like my desk, except with books next to the monitor. Was thinking of getting another monitor"} | |
| {"text":"winner of this thread"} | |
| {"text":"Why aren't you going to figure classes"} | |
| {"text":"nah I went to a drink n draw event and it was literally that. Your mileage may vary, but living near a college town makes it so that you get a lot of these, but also a lot of people who go for funsies."} | |
| {"text":"drink n draw you went to an event made for socializing and got mad when you had to socialize. You are retarded"} | |
| {"text":"The amount of socially inept losers who clearly haven't been in an adult working environment in this thread speaks volumes of that culture this board has cultivated. Wash your balls niggas, I can smell the lot of you through the screen."} | |
| {"text":"I have a job and have had jobs since uni. Still a quiet autist. Nobody really likes it but I do my work, and I help out when needed (even if nobody asks) so nobody really complains. I probably won't become a CEO manager to makes one million a year but I can at least earn my daily bread"} | |
| {"text":"Clearly you haven't. It's just high school 2.0 all over again. Especially offices. With managers who will throw you under the buss to save their own ass. With the IT department leaking your browser history to the office gossiper. Adult daycare is overrated, fuck you."} | |
| {"text":"How much planning do you do before you start drawing?"} | |
| {"text":"I brainstorm for 8 hours while playing video games . Usually drunk"} | |
| {"text":"none, i literally just start. i work from imagination and do my studying separately. if there’s planning it’s done through drawing on the fly, like doing some rough passes for potential interactive poses for composition."} | |
| {"text":"I plant as I draft, I do multiple draws. I tell myself \"You're an artist, surely you can draw them multiple times as many times as it needs yes?\" It's ust like when I'm revising when commision drafts. A bit of a pain but worth it most of the time."} | |
| {"text":"Draw This In Your Style, inb4 Hard Round Brush."} | |
| {"text":"ok but why trace"} | |
| {"text":"My fav in threat."} | |
| {"text":"are you posting loli?"} | |
| {"text":"Wdym?"} | |
| {"text":"Do I just draw to get good? Then why so many different courses and youtube videos about how to get good? Someone has to be lying"} | |
| {"text":"Not many will tell you this, but the constant barrage of art tutorials and courses and books are no different than the same industrial-complex found within creative writing. Many hobbyists may flirt with an artistic medium, but few will commit to improving on a daily basis or taking it to a professional level. There are WAY too many people who get stuck buying books and watching videos or taking courses because they're in love with the idea of \"being an artist\" or are afraid to actually push themselves. Outside of \"common sense\" stuff, you don't need to engage with most of these videos or books. They will eat up valuable time that is better spent drawing or writing or whatever it is you want to do. In this case, it's drawing, but you musn't \"just draw\" because you risk falling into stagnation or learning incorrectly. The \"common sense\" stuff is the following: trace your photo reference do lots of contours of your subject draw your reference upside down break down your reference into shapes draw your subject on a glass sheet with a marker take your subject/reference, look at it, then take it away and draw it from memory (then draw it while looking at it, then repeat the first step) learn how to sculpt or crochet start doing origami on a daily basis Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."} | |
| {"text":"The youtubers are obviously lying to get views (like most youtube tutorials)"} | |
| {"text":"Draw See what you lack or hate about it Study it Repeat Don't fall into the Youtube meme, they just repeat the same thing you would see on a book about it, but slower, with missing information and with a retard that doesn't know how to teach. Same thing with courses, ignore everything made by artists that aren't teachers. And even then, some of them are/became useless because they we're made with receiving feedback from the teacher and he may no longer do it (or not possible in case you pirated it)."} | |
| {"text":"Because most people are lazy and retarded. Hope this helps."} | |
| {"text":"youre making a logical leap that they drew for years on end between the two dates but the reality is they most likely drew very little comparatively to other activities"} | |
| {"text":"Why does the anime version look better? I know it's a copy and the original has a larger artistic value but still the anime version is more pleasing to the eye"} | |
| {"text":"Top suffering, a love truncated before it could even bloom, the baby is already dead but it knows it was loved and all the remaining light the mother has is trying to do its best in a final futile struggle bottom awooga zombie mama"} | |
| {"text":"i.e. weebs are retarded. The only way to top this bottom image for them would be to make the baby an anime girl."} | |
| {"text":"Trvke"} | |
| {"text":"suffering You know it's hard to see that when the majority of the artist's work looks like it is straight out of courage the cowardly dog"} | |
| {"text":"like i said brain damage"} | |
| {"text":"are drawing tablets worth it? i was thinking of getting one of these without the screens and transitioning to digital art since regular traditional drawing gives me backpain"} | |
| {"text":"My XP-Pen 01v2 works on fedora Linux but I can't get the open tablet GUI to detect it so I can configure my buttons. What do? Yes, but prepare for the adjustment period."} | |
| {"text":"hello does anyone know if the PTH451 works fine with modern OS's i use linux if that matters, im sure its too old for official updates, are there any community created drivers that allow the use of all of its features?"} | |
| {"text":"is the adjustment period that scary?"} | |
| {"text":"Honestly not really. I had a struggle getting back into it after not drawing for a while, expecting zero need to readjust, but then I told myself I was being a bitch and locked in. Just accept you'll have to do some warming up for a bit."} | |
| {"text":"ITT: Post your work and your socials"} | |
| {"text":"I thought you drew Twinkslop?"} | |
| {"text":"i prefer it, but ladies are what pay the bills"} | |
| {"text":"sigmamalechad unhirable"} | |
| {"text":"i prefer it Based ladies are what pay the bills Unfortunate yet understandable."} | |
| {"text":"Where did Bouguereau find a perfectly cubic stone in a cave but mainly how did he get a child to sit for hours for his paintings?"} | |
| {"text":"am i ugly"} | |
| {"text":"I don't know."} | |
| {"text":"They already had chisels, a wooden float and mortar back in the day"} | |
| {"text":"Man, in american comics it's exactly like that. Sometimes you see beautyful pencils in comicartgallery and then, interrior work of most marvel/dc comics are absolute shite, and when it's not 60% covered in hard shadows, it's shithouse ruined by inker or colorist like that one crying batman comic."} | |
| {"text":"Your posting on 4chan, so probably"} | |
| {"text":"Faux retro fanart"} | |
| {"text":"A 12 year old made this 500 years ago. What is your excuse?"} | |
| {"text":"He didn't have a wife or any romantic relationships (beyond writing poems and letters). Maybe that was to his advantage. When John Flaxman Sir Joshua Reynolds (President of the Royal Academy) that he'd just been married, Reynolds is said to have told him, \"Oh, then you are ruined for an artist!\" That wasn't actually the case for Flaxman, because his wife was supportive of his career (also, they didn't have any kids)."} | |
| {"text":"correction: When Joh Flaxman TOLD Sir Joshua Reynolds..."} | |
| {"text":"MFW finding out a 12 year old made that"} | |
| {"text":"While I think we're more privileged than ever, and it'd actually suck to go back 500 years the only benefit we have now is instant communication with people we don't like. You'd still have family 500 years ago, and health is not a problem because people in the past dont know about the tech we have now. Wht you don't know can't be used to judge the quality of your life, otherwise you have to concede that the times we live in are shit because in 500 years they will achieve world peace and UBI."} | |
| {"text":"White people are just different. There are 14 year olds leading armies and 7 year olds becoming Kings."} | |
| {"text":"Is drawing anime floating heads the fastest way to go /pro/ level?"} | |
| {"text":"bait, rage; engagement. try this at some point anon; sort the catalog by bump order so that the page 10 is up at top of the page. read the subject/comment of those threads and look at how many responses there are and check how old those threads. if you think about it, you can tell what type of threads those are and why they exist. those are the types of threads you might want to avoid if you happen venture back here. otherwise just go to a general because most threads are just 'strong' distraction bait. thus why felix's face is post three times when it's clearly that same person doing it for autistic reasons and not some sperg who \"oops, didn't notice there was already a thread about this, teehee.\" same with social media image posts."} | |
| {"text":"Oh it's that easy? Well shit, go do it! Dumbass retard, you realize this is why your life is bad? Because you need \"permission\" for everything, you'll never be anything more than what's prescribed to you. Because you're fucking stupid, unlike some Swedish gamer who figured out funny videos+consistency=success which is too much of a brain bender for you. Must be the university education."} | |
| {"text":"He's literally the opposite of a chud. What the fuck are you talking about?"} | |
| {"text":"PewDiePie is drawing these anime girls in 3/4ths, tremendous progress, folks. Everyone is so proud, the whole internet is cheering, WIT Studio invited him to Tokyo – BIG LEAGUE stuff! Nobody really cares what he does or doesn't do with his life, he's a WINNER, making millions while learning art. Fantastic! But then you have this total LOSER on 4chan's /ic/ – the same sad guy keeps making the same PewDiePie threads ever since the news blew up. Obsessed! He can't even post his own drawings because his art is so bad, it's embarrassing. Zero talent. So he ragebaits on a dead slow board just to get (You)s. Pathetic! Sad! Get a life, low-energy troll – Pewds is out here crushing it while you're still tracing stick figures. MAGA!"} | |
| {"text":"I need as many guides as possible for drawing large Boobs that look like this."} | |
| {"text":"[Prestige Photobook] Nipple Play Love Korikori Edition"} | |
| {"text":"Isn't 1 just the pectoralis instead of \"fat\"? sure there's there but feel your own body, the main shape comes from the muscle"} | |
| {"text":"Thanks"} | |
| {"text":"Still using Jewgle"} | |
| {"text":"\"HAHAHA! I HAVE POWER OVER YOU!\" *stays a /beg/* brown people should never have gained internet"} | |
| {"text":"He made it into /int/ in 3 months. Why are you still stuck in /beg/"} | |
| {"text":"this guy keeps winning, gosh even got to make it to Wit Studios. Kudos to him. I know it's shitty to say ' well if I didnt have to worry about money I could pursue whatever', but man congrats to him and fuck me I have to learn how to actually balance my time between life,bills, grind and more"} | |
| {"text":"You can’t learn a language past a certain age What kind of retarded cope is this? You can learn anything anytime you like. It’s just that learning a new language, especially one that is very far linguistically from your native (learning English from Swedish is much easier than learning Japanese) is really, really fucking hard and as people grow older, they lose patience they would have when they were children. When you’re a child, you do not have any choice in whether or not you understand the world, whereas as an adult, you can always retreat into something easier and safer because you already know a language. Neuroplasticity is a meme"} | |
| {"text":"Yeah, if anybody in our lifetime should be admired for just doing good as an everyday guy, Felix is one of them."} | |
| {"text":"threads like this reminds me that this board is filled with people who don't drew for atleast 5 years cause otherwise they would know that Pew is still on low-beg-area at drawing."} | |
| {"text":"i would imagine it's just one sperg posting pewdiepie every time he makes a new video, which probably isn't that often now that he's not /beg/ging for attention and after all those apologies he had to make for paying some jeets to make a sign saying \"kill all jews,\" Although, I will give credit where it's due for him and his gal leaving Europe. Although, he may be 20 years too late..."} | |
| {"text":"for me when i only need to post 2 shitty doodles and get half a mill views in a week."} | |
| {"text":"When I drew my grandmother"} | |
| {"text":"And what are you going to do with those views?"} | |
| {"text":"sit there for 6 months and not upload anything new"} | |
| {"text":"When I got my irasuto into a zine. I got two thousand clicks in a day. Felt amazing."} | |
| {"text":"When I started seeing my stuff pop up in random places."} | |
| {"text":"What's the etiquette of taking someone else's abandoned OC?"} | |
| {"text":"do what you want. it's the internet"} | |
| {"text":"That's an F16 you dummy baka"} | |
| {"text":"kike nigger it's funny how emotional kids like to string together \"bad words\" to communicate their emotions, regardless of if they make sense or not"} | |
| {"text":"It does make sense though"} | |
| {"text":"How many jewish hood black guys have you seen?"} | |
| {"text":"Post your inventions to get others to draw more"} | |
| {"text":"diabetic inducer 9000"} | |
| {"text":"Post your inventions to get others to draw more Being recognized for my League of Legends art in-game is quite the ferocious inspiration to get me to draw more. For those who draw vidya fan art, this should motivate you as well."} | |
| {"text":"My machine removes the 12 inch dildo from my obliterated asshole if I don't keep the pen on my tablet. If the pen is lifted from the tablet, after a small duration the dildo will slowly glide out of my expanded anus. Notice how I rendered the cheeks dripping with a mixture of both lube and extacy; that's also an essential part of the process. Otherwise, it will make multiple insertions a little uncomfortable."} | |
| {"text":"ITT: post your art we can guess your nationality and your app (digifag)/pencil quality (tradifag)"} | |
| {"text":"Good"} | |
| {"text":"Make a new guess"} | |
| {"text":"israel"} | |
| {"text":"Germany"} | |
| {"text":"nah, they're both United States"} | |
| {"text":"bump"} | |
| {"text":"It depends. In the movie industry, mostly in the beginning, a massive shitload of sketches are produced as quickly as possible to get a rough idea as to how things should look. There may be some light coloring, but that's if the producer or director sees potential in it. Look at any behind-the-scenes concepts from movies, tv or games, and you'll get the idea. Pic related, star wars."} | |
| {"text":"That's often a result of poor parenting. let's give the kid a console/phone so I can have some peace Or just genuine lack of interest. I guess people were more or less the same 50 years ago, but back then they had much fewer distractions. There was just TV and radio, so if you were bored, you either took up some hobby, read books or went out with friends."} | |
| {"text":"Back then our parents just took our gameboys and only gave it on the weekends and holidays. It was the same for my cousin and some neighborhood friends. So all that was left was to be forced to touch grass or play with legos or whatever. TV during the weekdays was pure agony in the early 2000s. The only days that mattered was Friday night and Saturday unless you rush on home at the speed of light and catch some random anime at 2:30PM before it drops off to soap operas."} | |
| {"text":"Does he speak japanese? Why dont pewdiepie just ask for a collab or private lessons with another western expat?"} | |
| {"text":"and that level of of /beg/ is archived with 2 years of drawing purely for fun, with barely any goals or time consumed btw (assume that he was focus on drawing 3/4 anime heads than gesture like the previous vids demonstrated) your average /beg/s here will spend 10x more time and effort drawing what they don't like and blame the guy for having more time and money than them"} | |
| {"text":"another week with yet another e-celeb literal who and how they have nothing better to do might as well appeal to.... who, exactly? this is yet another case of a person that scooped up cash by doing literally nothing and needs something to do besides just privately raising his kid with his \"\"\"hot\"\"\" wife in an onsen village. he's like a politician that lost an election and either becomes a lobbyist or a talking head on TV. If anything, he's actually making fun of people that crab/scratch at this. *leers at /ic/* he doesn't really care about making anything, the guy is fucking bored. he's probably doing a vid just to prove he's not traveled alone to the Suicide Forest, which is approximately located at..."} | |
| {"text":"Anyone know of artists who successfully combine painting with linework? I need examples/pieces that have pulled it off. It can be interpreted either way: painting done under linework or painting that mimics colored pencils/pastels and is more like drawing than painting. I hope I'm able to get my point across well enough, not sure how to articulate it more clearly. Pic unrelated"} | |
| {"text":"Takato Yamamoto"} | |
| {"text":"Anime"} | |
| {"text":"chun-lo That one painting that he made with the blue hair woman with the tattoo is still one of the best works I've seen in the past decade."} | |
| {"text":"Any painting that isn't a European style oil painting? That's pretty much the only style that doesn't use lines"} | |
| {"text":"Nah. AI can't do my style yet. Grok thinks he's a bear lol. And I think any AI would make backgrounds better than I ever could, which would probably be more distracting than anything. My backgrounds are always just a wiggly ground line, and some dots and bumps as rocks or something."} | |
| {"text":"No it isn't."} | |
| {"text":"I don't, all I know is CSP is the best"} | |
| {"text":"Isn't Manga Studio just how CSP used to be named?"} | |
| {"text":"Manga Studio is what CSP used to be, so the code is built over it (which is why supposedly they've had issues optimizing it)"} | |
| {"text":"I been studying perspective lately and anything beyond the basics feel like math, I know that I'm dumb but drawing can't be that hard, right? Anatomy, color theory and light & shadow are a nightmare too. I can draw cartoons just fine, I read Preston Blair booklet multiple times, but anything beyond that is extremely hard..."} | |
| {"text":"instead of learning academically, you can try learning to draw intuitively, which ideally is what academic learning should do for you as well, but if you are too retarded for academia then you might wanna try and skip (ie. do master studies and shit). If even that doesn't help you grasp it, then yes you might be beyond salvation."} | |
| {"text":"I think it's because collectively we are being programmed with garbage information so the moment you need to actually analyze anything it feels like your brain is trying to learn German. It's not actually hard, it's just there is too much noise in our heads. Get rid of the noise. Stop the scrolling addictions and you might find a way to focus."} | |
| {"text":"I once had a student with mental retardation. We would spell out load the word \"stand\" and the kid would yell out load \"goat!\" to see if it was correct. I guess, to an extent, you're correct, but you could always just stick with lineart and inking. Making that look clean and cool is a discipline in and of itself."} | |
| {"text":"List them please I already know about about Gesture (Learn Anatomy First) 8 Heads Rule (Meme thought up by COOMis so he could get paid, he was paid by the word) Rendermaxxing (DOES NOT MATTER!! Fundies about lines, shapes etc. matter more) Anything else I should avoid?"} | |
| {"text":"This is the most retarded take on this entire board. If someone of higher skill is actually able to edit my work and point out its flaws even if I didn't ask for it, I would be grateful. This is an artwork and CRITIQUE board, you absolute fucking moron."} | |
| {"text":"\"Just draw\" is a trap by design. It's suppose to filter the people who don't enjoy drawing. Too many addicts looking for shortcuts who think they can get carried like it's a moba fail this test and are often caught just collecting art books and never actually experiment with the knowledge or draw something for fun."} | |
| {"text":"why so upset Irshad? Your scheme is quiet obvious for anyone with an IQ above 100."} | |
| {"text":"Gesture is whatever the fuck I say it is, I have the pencil, not you"} | |
| {"text":"I like to walk the walk instead of talking the talk. Haven't gotten around to making blog, though. I'm considering doing it once I hit the arbitrary number of 1000 hours in Krita."} | |
| {"text":"-So I'm curently learning to use Krita and mixing it to trad. As you can see it's not great but hey there's a first to everything => thus what I'm asking for feedsback. I am very bad at computer so Krita is very new to digital art. So with Bluebiscuit and Biekkia (I want to avoid using to much ressources), my objective was to learn to draw people, by tracing model with basic volume (way before Learning anatomy) => Plus it's those exercices promoted by Bluebiscuit (big inspiration btw). I also want to Apply it to animals. But I Don't know whether or not it's a correct method (mostly avoiding to just tracing thus not learning) NB : red on the \"not traced\" is the basic muscles from Bitekkia -I have a second problem : How do you manage study and just fun : Like Learning krita, boxes, perspective, color theory, anatomy, avoiding same face syndome, how to do a comic, composition, … and I know that it's suposed to learn bit by bit but in the end I stil can't draw what I want to do (ie no studies), maybe blank page syndrome Could you give me a hand on this, plz ?"} | |
| {"text":"I think your non traced version looks way better. You'll learn more without tracing. Id recommend making a nice size krita document and then zoom in so your work area is just a small corner of the full page. Then find whatever gesture reference (youtube has endless animal documentaries). Do a 5-10 min study and then pan over to a clean spot and do another drawing. You can fit like 25 drawings. Then make a new layer and hide the previous one and do it again! Experiment with different brushes. Maybe do a whole page with one brush and then the next with another. Play around and tinker. See how different brushes affect your drawings. Then later on you can go back and look over these big pages of work to track your progress"} | |
| {"text":"Anon would you kindly share the original ref pic you used there? I can't find the sauce online."} | |
| {"text":"Your not traced has more sol"} | |
| {"text":"I would say the one thing that stands out to me about the Not Traced version is the arms look a bit stuck out on a plane rather than set back and slightly bent. To answer the question about balancing fun and study, you can just put it on the same canvas/image but on a different layer. Like box studies and then a spaceship over it or whatever. With digital I found out I can basically treat layers as scrap paper to get out the funkiness of the start of drawing that day and then delete it afterwards."} | |
| {"text":"Here"} | |
| {"text":"what does it take to draw vixens exactly like this"} | |
| {"text":"3 years of drawing nothing but boxes in perspective"} | |
| {"text":"a healthy understanding of stylized anatomy and a clear vision of what you want to draw. Effortless drawing takes a lot of time"} | |
| {"text":"Is she gonna eat the rabbit?"} | |
| {"text":"Knowing the artist, She'll eat her out instead."} | |
| {"text":"As a newbie, should I pick an artist and copy their style? It seems like a fun goal"} | |
| {"text":"I don't need to post jack shit to tell you that your book is a sad joke. It's complete dogshit, everything about it is wrong and evil."} | |
| {"text":"Thousands of people were helped by my method Lotta begs, you mean. How come you haven't posted any work, yourself? Lots of people go viral, that's what lolcows are. Besides your claims of them being outdated, you haven't denied any other critiques of your \"guide\". In a general sense, the work lacks depth. Whatever you think you teach, you're not unique. Your general approach is a worse version of what Betty Edwards teaches, but she's actually qualified to do so. Let me make an anecdote: In my line of work, we have these special education achievement contests. They vary a lot; some like to dance, some like to do sports, and others like to do art. However well they think they are doing, we are all looking at them with the inherent understanding, that (unless they are the extreme exception) they will never amount to anything. This is how I look upon your work. Your most popular video was a clickbait, and the rest have around 200 to 1500 views. That's because, anyone with half a brain can tell, this will not work. Say what you will about Drawabox, at least he posts his work online and is transparent. Yours reads like a scam, but a bad one were you're not making any money from it. Which part of \"I'm a teacher\" is difficult to comprehend? I'm not posting my professional work, here. Unlike you, I actually work for a living."} | |
| {"text":"And here's another reason."} | |
| {"text":"Assuming you're a complete beginner, here's my recommendation: Yes, but also read and copy the illustrations in Bridgman Constructive Anatomy. Doing these two simultaneously will increase your skills tremendously fast. I usually do 10 minutes on bigger more thorough studies, and 3-5 minutes per smaller drawing study. It doesn't matter that it's bad, or that you didn't finish it, take a few notes, mentally or written down, and move on to the next one. As a side note too; remember to practice basic forms in perspective. Cubes, cones, cylinders, some of them combined, all in perspective, like stated before. I usually do these in front of the television in the evenings, just as a meditation and not true practice. It's great fun, and it doesn't matter that it's bad or good. I also advice you to copy multiple different artists, see what you like about each. Whatever sticks will fit your chosen style."} | |
| {"text":"What weaknesses stand out in my understanding of surfaces against lighting, foreshortening, and tasteful and simple development of value?"} | |
| {"text":"I don't think that's a kind nor constructive thing to say, which ultimately beggars your own experience of using this site. Can you keep your critique to the subject at hand, which is the weakness in my understanding of surfaces against lighting, foreshortening, and tasteful and simple development of value?"} | |
| {"text":"he's right tho, not a single scribble in your image makes sense whatsoever, a monkey with a crayon would make scribbles with more sense than that. It's so bad it's impossible to give advice on, because there's nothing the human mind could comprehend enough to guide you. The only hope if you want to continue claiming non-retardedness, is to start from square 1 and do some permabeg shit like drawabox."} | |
| {"text":"You've mistaken your inability to comprehend forms for a lack of structural sanity, which shows your mind is not sufficiently detached from the representational to speak of technique. You are in fact betraying your own lack of skill if you cannot comprehend the very simple structures drawn here. You probably draw flat planes with decals stuck on them. The question of whether or not your mind can comprehend what it is is not the question here. I don't care if you think your mind must be able to recognize what something is and you shouldn't eirher. The question was about surfaces against lighting, foreshortening, and tasteful and simple development of value. If you can't answer that then you have shown your lack of skill in critique."} | |
| {"text":"it looks like you are rushing lmao"} | |
| {"text":"sheik with hoves gets down on his belly to lick a filet Sarlacc gets a taste for patio furniture fat amputee in a bathrobe Foolio as Narcissus bearded man merges with ladies' shoe unshaven fleur-de-lis Egyptian mummy swimwear tiny triangular Mexican and whatever that klaxon at the end of an insect limb is"} | |
| {"text":"I'm past the point of asking how to learn to draw, I more or less understand the principles (I think) What I don't get is how to make it fun. Obviously it's better to have fun than forcing yourself. Actually, forcing yourself will never work I think. But how am I supposed to have fun drawing looking at my shit? In fact I don't even have fun doing the things I like, attempting it on activities I find strenuous seems impossible."} | |
| {"text":"the more time you end up spending working on the stuff that feels almost out of reach the faster you will progress. people tend to give advice that fits their ideology, they saying ideas they think is supposed to be true about drawing. Basically, they repeat a bunch of neat sounding hearsay. But they don't really test what they are saying, or check their own experiences to see how much it lines up with reality / lived experience. Like, have you ever stopped to check to see if the words you're saying is really true, or do you assume ppl who give you this kind of advice you're repeating probably know better, and you're kind of just saying things. believe me I get what you're trying to say, but have you ever explicitly tried drawing \"out of reach\" and drawing \"in reach\" so as to compare the two? And all the moments that you can recall where tried to push yourself to do stuff that felt almost out of reach, were they so especially wonderful that its just like, oh boy i have to do this more often, it was super useful for me! probably not right? it probably just failed a bunch as you spread yourself thin. you're just saying things. i mean, obviously practicing and trying to get good at new things has value but, this idea that it works this way is fiction. in reality, refining what you already know is where the magic happens, and that isn't meme theories, I know that because it happened to me."} | |
| {"text":"here, draw this."} | |
| {"text":"NTA but /trash/ has general requests, OC requests, and pokemon requests with their own generals"} | |
| {"text":"well, I'm looking for not the kind of draw threads where bots spam requests, just anons sharing their drawings"} | |
| {"text":"Why is it impossible to find good color and value resources Every single recommended resource I've looked into turned out to be either yet another light resource, or a physical paint mixing resource, when all I want is to understand how to put together pleasing and cohesive color palettes in a digital painting"} | |
| {"text":"I like it but I think the shadows would be darker"} | |
| {"text":"nice, how and where did you did this, CSP doesnt not help me. I really like the final result, beats the original or my edit, i really DONT like how overly contrasty and bright anime backgrounds are right now"} | |
| {"text":"digital bother about color theory. Color theory is just a sumary of what is good to minimalize the amount of paint used. With digital, just learn some basic techniques and experiment with color to find your own way."} | |
| {"text":"I hope you are aware cartoons turn the contrast of all colors up to 11 and thats why we are drawn to them. their world is artificially high contrast which makes ours look bland by comparison."} | |
| {"text":"now it looks dull. there is a reason they bump the contrast to 5,000."} | |
| {"text":"Painter is Bill Bate."} | |
| {"text":"Idk, it just looks so fucking soulful."} | |
| {"text":"The dirty brushstrokes looks so scrumptious, it makes me want to eat it."} | |
| {"text":"The west used to make art like this before digital art took over everything. Never forget"} | |
| {"text":"digital art on its own did not kill talent, but it did significantly lower the barrier to entry so you're seeing a lot of artists today that never would have made it big 80 years ago. it's not fair if you're comparing a professional matte concept artist with the money to afford their craft and connections to share it with the world versus the average 20 year old tumblr/bluesky artist who has internet access to give them an audience of billions and and infinitely reusable canvas and paint that costs nothing except for electricity and the initial investment cost."} | |
| {"text":"John Berkey is one of my favorite artists in that genre. RIP"} | |
| {"text":"/beg/ is three times more active than /dad/. Do you mean the /dad/ website?"} | |
| {"text":"Literally anywhere but 4chan. People here will only reply to you if you're demonstrably lower than them in skill level. The hierarchy here is the same as all other art circles, small, cliquey, narcissistic. Best remedy is sunlight, go somewhere where you're accountable and have a name. Real life is the best."} | |
| {"text":"Do you work in the art industry? You sound very knowledgeable"} | |
| {"text":"Nop, that would be awesome but I don't work and don't know how to get paid for my drawings... Yeah it is helpful if you know what you looking for, if you don't know then you gonna start copying, the thing is that gesture doesn't have line breaks in the knees, elbows, etc. It's just a continuous curved line, next you have a contour defining a bidimensional shape, that's simple mass, if you want to draw simple mass is ok but I don't do it, I merge simple mass with volumetric drawing (section lines)..."} | |
| {"text":"Whats the fastest way to keep consistent sprite scale across multiple sprites and backgrounds?"} | |
| {"text":"how much has he improved? Does he answer replies or is he an ethereal presence?"} | |
| {"text":"I think, as you can see, he's actually really good at gesture. Does he answer replies or is he an ethereal presence? I remember he will randomly reply to questions every once in a while, but I don't think he ever acknowledges the schizophrenia, and don't think his answers are ever informative whatsoever. Why don't you try asking him something."} | |
| {"text":"What is your favorite drawing you've ever done?"} | |
| {"text":"zyibump"} | |
| {"text":"always using airbrush for coloring"} | |
| {"text":"Post generic advice that helps no one feel the form paint the shapes draw what you see have fun"} | |
| {"text":"Why would anyone ever give you free advice? Fuck you and get crabbed ."} | |
| {"text":"gesture"} | |
| {"text":"Some people actually care about drawing and art as a piece of culture that should be passed onto the young. Most don't see any value in it though."} | |
| {"text":"it's literally all it is thoughever some of you just want the magic pill, it doesn't exist. open a book or any of the bazzillion tutorials - /ic/ folx need to explain theyselves on why many folx can make it to a decent enough level with the material widely available all over and yet for y'all it's never enough."} | |
| {"text":"simple yet characteristic big and simple error more kill your heroes gesture structure anatomy what if? creative play filters 80/20 art is an idea chunk down 2 value system box logic"} | |
| {"text":"is it possible to make it without: -drawing porn -furry shit or are the rest of us doomed?"} | |
| {"text":"Not everyone subscribes to that mammonic way of thinking you mong. Rich people help each other all the time."} | |
| {"text":"There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are either well written or badly written. Follow not in the footsteps of the wise, seek what they sought. The way that can be named is not the true way. Those who find ugly meanings in beautiful things are corrupt without being charming. This is a fault. Those who find beautiful meanings in beautiful things are cultivated. For these there is hope. They are the elect to whom beautiful things mean only Beauty. The most abundant trade that will always be in demand is turning lead into gold. Shit into Shinola. Personal flaws into virtues. Take what's toxic, poisonous, useless and burn it as fuel for something truly useful. Not an easy task mind you. My advice? is it possible to mmmmmake it without doing unpleasant things I don't want to do or are us special snowflakes supposed to be drawing instead of crying fucking pepe jpg all over this god forsaken board Get the fuck off 4chan, literally unplug pepe. disable wifi. paper and pencil. YOU NEED TO LOOK DEEPER INSIDE YOURSELF you consumerist addicted no digital no draw pricks glorifying landscapes over smut need to shut the hell up and go fuck a riverbed full of soft clay while a thomas kinkadian deer drinks your ejaculation out the stream BECAUSE lord almighty I am so tired of these constant threads pepe please. I am legit just tired. I am trying to be nice and failing because you no draws are starting thread after thread after thread begging 4 advice on fucking color theory or bullshit and being nice just isnt working. post your work. are you doomed? im not fucking psychic bro! if you do cave and post your work ill gladly post mine to prove my chops and redline your dumb ass at the bare minimum to salvage this christ forsaken PEPE FUCK FEST THREADs"} | |
| {"text":"New kino rant unlocked. Saved"} | |
| {"text":"No it's possible. I Haven't been able to though"} | |
| {"text":"frogposter NGMI right here."} | |
| {"text":"How many hours a day do you draw?"} | |
| {"text":"it varies. like today I didnt do jack shit"} | |
| {"text":"I've been doing 2h every other day for about 6 months and noticing big leaps month to month. As long as you don't take long breaks you'll improve no matter what."} | |
| {"text":"20 minutes but it feels like hours."} | |
| {"text":"Last year was about 5, this year I'm aiming for 9-10. I paint more than I draw tho."} | |
| {"text":"Currently? Zero. I sleep only 6 hours a day but there's still not enough time for all the shit I want to do. Holy shit I hate my job so much it's unreal."} | |
| {"text":"Hi anons i hope you all doing well btw here's a silent comic I've did in 6 days to challenge myself feel free to criticize so i can improve thank you page 1"} | |
| {"text":"I had already seen your work before, with the comic about the girl running. This time, the result is actually pretty solid. The story is easy to understand, the character has a good arc, and the pacing, at least in the first part, works well. The drawing has also improved. That said, my problem is with the last two pages; the training is not very well represented. I would have liked to see two full pages focused on the training, showing her gradual muscle gain. Then, the final page should have been only about her preparing for the match, with the last panel mirroring the splash page, but with her replacing her childhood hero. Of course, you still need to improve your drawings, as everyone does, but overall, this is actually a pretty good story."} | |
| {"text":"It's cute, and I like it. Like the others said, the training montage needs to be improved. There seems to be a missing emotional beat between the gym time and signing the contract. It feels a bit too easy, no? It shows she puts in the hard work to train and immediately gets what she wants, but without facing the rejections and failures along the way. Anyway, I really like this story. I live the same life as this girl every day, and am too afraid to full-send it into becoming a full time artist and leave my shitty cubicle though. Wish I had the courage to abandon it all to chase a dream."} | |
| {"text":"feel free to criticize so i can improve Firstly, it'd help to indicate that it read Right to Left, since the context is that you're an english speaker, making an english comic for other english speakers, we'd naturally read Left to Right unless told otherwise. An anime/manga aesthetic doesn't change that, since there's plenty of comics inspired by such aesthetics too, that read Left to Right. Page 1 I have no idea what the bottom middle panel is supposed to be... a person jumping the ropes, perhaps? This page gives an ominious, tense feeling, when I think that wasn't what you were going for. I assume this page is a moment that comes after her deciding to go pro, whilst she is training, but there is no real indication that's the case, or that she is the one watching the television. Page 4 The hatching feels sloppy and amateurish in panel 2, and isn't particularly great anywhere in the comic. There's also something about how it's cutting from a past memory (black background) to current time that doesn't feel quite right, like it's too sudden and jarring... maybe some black coming in from the corner of the page and fading to the white would have worked to make it feel smoother? In Panel 6 the hand holding the phone suddenly switches. The forced perspective also feel a little extreme and goofy. Page 6 Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."} | |
| {"text":"cont. Page 7 She's suddenly spun around in panel 1, which breaks the no-no rule of spinning the camera 180 degrees suddenly. The two puddles of memories in panel 2 don't really feel like they indicate she absolutely loved wrestling. Panel 3 Looks like we're focusing on a building's Roof, rather than her home flat. Page 8 I'll agree with the other anon that this montage doesn't really work. But I think the big issue is that it looks like a single sessions, rather than the progression of time it's probably meant to. You probably should have shown her in different clothes each panel, or panels of a change calendar, etc - just something to indicate time progressing. Page 9 No idea what Panel 3 is. The last Panel doesn't have quite the impact I think you wanted. Maybe it would have been better if it were a backshot of her looking into a large crowd? Or maybe her doing the exact pose from page 2? But overall, it reads well enough, the art needs work but isn't so bad that it distracts from the read, the only glaring issue I think there is; is the mystery panels from pages 1 and 9. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."} | |
| {"text":"quality has dropped literally the best page Trust me, I have read all the manga."} | |
| {"text":"Is this overdoing perspective?v"} | |
| {"text":"Nope. Judging from the context I guess this serves as opening to the scene, the fight has just started since the fighters are away from each other and seem to be closing in. It's good way to show viewer what's going on and where. And when you give such detail to show the setting, the rest of the comic/story doesn't need as much bg, because the reader has already seen where the action is taking place. Lot of manga and comic artist do that, because it lets you take it easy in following pages because you can have the fighters fight in simple bg since viewer's brains are filling in the blanks"} | |
| {"text":"But that's the point. Perspective is basically your camera. How you use perspective is very important to the idea or message you're trying to convey. The things you're talking about with focal length, depth of field, etc. Those can all be done in the 2d format, and are routinely used in illustration. If you're just doing a 3 point perspective for the sake of doing 3 point perspective when something like an over the shoulder longer focal length shot would have been much better to convey the intensity of the moment because of the fish eye effect and the closeness to the action."} | |
| {"text":"Not really he has a specific scene he wants to achieve"} | |
| {"text":"In the comic book Cerebus the Aardvark, there was a collaborator called Gerhard who did backgrounds, and his methods were to work out the perspectives on a separate board,then transfer the lines he wanted onto the pages with tracing paper."} | |
| {"text":"No, that'd be Rafael Araujo. Basic linear perspective looks bad and wrong to our eyes because we don't see the world that way. It's fine for blocking out but you need to add lens distortion and dynamics to the shapes. For cases like this, you're absolutely better off building the scene in a 3D program like blender then drawing over that instead of doing all this work by hand. A common workflow is quick sketch/storyboard, play with 3D, then sketch over the 3D blockout as there's no point hand drawing grids like this."} | |
| {"text":"zoomers are drawing stuff like this Does this drawing style even have a name other than zoomerslop?"} | |
| {"text":"the /ic/ begtrap style which includes anime"} | |
| {"text":"Some people are such negative Nancys. Not all art or visual styles have to appeal to you, and just because it doesn't appeal to you, doesn't mean it has no appeal at all. I'm not the biggest fan of a lot of the anime and manga styles, and I can still appreciate that there's something there - it's why so many people like it in the first place."} | |
| {"text":"The style is drawn so simply to help with animation. So the worse quality and abstraction is excused because we need to fill 10-20 frames every second. When you use the style in a 2D render, a still picture, you're using the tool incorrectly. Most likely because you are prebeg noob who can only draw flat shapes head on, and it's ok to be a noob. And it's okay to enjoy low quality, janky pictures, just like it's ok to enjoy a shitty meal. But let's not delude ourselves into thinking it is not incompetent work. Just be honest, you like the IP, the fantasy, possibly the nostalgia of it. You do not like it because of the technical mastery the artist had."} | |
| {"text":"Most likely because you are prebeg noob who can only draw flat shapes head on you like the IP, the fantasy, possibly the nostalgia of it You do not like it because of the technical mastery the artist had. Christ, are you also picturing me naked anon? That's a lot of attempted bullshit guess work about the type of person I am. For your information, I don't like Danny Phantom or Hazbin Hotel, I don't care for them much visually - I do like Dexter's Lab, which is of a similar vein, I suppose? And yes I do like Dexter's Lab because it's pleasing to look at. But I disagree with your assessment that is essentially simple = shit, do you think Charlie Brown is shit visually too? If so, just admit you dislike the cartoon aesthetic. Oh, I mostly draw realistic figures these days, for your information. Also, to help with your mental image of me; I'm ripped, am extremely tall, deep booming voice, and have a tasty 18 inch cock. Enjoy your wank session."} | |
| {"text":"cancer"} | |
| {"text":"get better at drawing by sketching directly with ink! Won't you just reinforce bad habits if you never fix the mistakes?"} | |
| {"text":"Try drawing like youre Kim Jung Goon with a nice thick pen. Your mistakes will be extremely obvious. Its a good reality check and rewarding, challenging exercise. You'll notice what youre good at and what you suck at"} | |
| {"text":"Thanks. It was something I was forced to do, being trapped in waiting rooms with too much free time. This was the next strip. But I did a lot of design work before settling on this one."} | |
| {"text":"Fixing the mistakes IS a bad habit, anon. As an artist, your focus should be to keep going. You can acknowledge the mistake by not erasing it 1000x and instead trying to draw it again, this time bearing in mind to not make the same mistakes again. Also, not every mistake needs to be “fixed”. If you draw a hand and the fingers are too stubby, just finish the drawing and study finger length afterwards Very silly thread."} | |
| {"text":"Nice style. What pen?"} | |
| {"text":"Black Bic ballpoint, and occasionally black gel ink on top of it."} | |
| {"text":"Have any of you done woodblock printing? Any tips for getting started?"} | |
| {"text":"How can I get a line like this without a G-Pen or Maru-Pen? Japanese manga pens are incredibly expensive to get from my country."} | |
| {"text":"Larger paper and ink brush? Inoue can do it. So can you."} | |
| {"text":"If you can draw this shouldn't be a problem . What pen do you think this person used? It doesn't matter"} | |
| {"text":"Just try some drawing nibs you can afford. The Hunt 102 Crowquill nib has been used by many comic artists and is pretty cheap (not sure about your country because you didn't even tell us where you live)."} | |
| {"text":"ITT pencils only you like"} | |
| {"text":"See, this is funny, because he turned the pencil brand \"Dixon\" into an innuendo for a Black Male's Genitalia - essentially calling the other anon homosexual. It's for moments like this that I visit this website, for hilarious examples of wit as seen here! Bravo."} | |
| {"text":"i bet you underwent transition surgery"} | |
| {"text":"What's your favorite underrated pencil, ChatGPT?"} | |
| {"text":"Two 4chan users who could not understand the highbrow humour that often appears on the site."} | |
| {"text":"theres a true artist"} | |
| {"text":"Pajeets in shambles"} | |
| {"text":"I honestly cant tell whether the stuff he's reposting are things he claims to be AI or not be AI. When I look into one of the user he reposted, one is clearly an artist, maybe he put one of his drawings into meshy and then he started learning blender through that, or he could be using templates/base meshes. Like who cares."} | |
| {"text":"He retweets a lot of real artists to promote them but his grift is calling out AI sloppers for ragebait"} | |
| {"text":"Why this nigga acts like he's a judge? send me suspicious artists and i'll judge if it's AI or not He acts like he can't misjudge and expends his whole day just accusing people. His behavior make he seem like a huge schizo"} | |
| {"text":"If he has this much free time, why doesn't he learn to draw? Maybe he did and failed and is taking out his autistic anger on AI"} | |
| {"text":"Maybe he doesn't even draw, who knows calling out art from 2 years ago"} | |
| {"text":"What do you like to draw and have you ever been surprised by what you like to draw? I hate bugs and insects but I love drawing them. Also, spooky stuff like skeletons and creepy buildings"} | |
| {"text":"I never thought that drawing birds could be so enjoyable."} | |
| {"text":"Do people care if your art is good. Let me explain what I mean. There's two artists: One draw every day, but is mediocre as fuck and make art about anything and even do a lot of even porn and is just a fucking machine producing every day. But he's mediocre as fuck and his art skills are mediocre. The other has top tier elite art, but doesn't produce a lot and maybe produces an illustration when he wants, but he's unreliable.But he was born with the magical talent skill. Which one will succeed?"} | |
| {"text":"define success"} | |
| {"text":"What is the best anatomically correct 3d software for referecing anatomy and poses?"} | |
| {"text":"a girlfriend"} | |
| {"text":"A full body mirror, lamp, and a camera"} | |
| {"text":"unreal engine 5. photo yourself, use (free) mocap software to get pose, set up camera. metahuman is lifelike and easy."} | |
| {"text":"Is anatomically correct or anatomically appealing more important? An anatomically correct fat woman is still anatomically correct but it's not as appealing as a nigger ass thicc women"} | |
| {"text":"Best realist artists?"} | |
| {"text":"The Peredvizhniki, hands down."} | |
| {"text":"I really like Peter Mork Monsted's winter paintings"} | |
| {"text":"Frederic Edwin Church"} | |
| {"text":"This is where I watched my parents die, Raphael. Cowabummer!"} | |
| {"text":"Why do Japanese artists still insist of mainly using Twitter as the place to post and share their art?"} | |
| {"text":"What are the top places to post art so that people will actually come across it?"} | |
| {"text":"Habit a b i t"} | |
| {"text":"the nihonjin subspecies is addicted to tradition. not just cultural tradition, they will pick one thing and stick with it until forced at gunpoint to abandon the old ways. twitter was the first social media (or at least the oldest one that still exists). they won't leave it even if better alternatives exist, simply because it's what they're using now. personally i think that social media for art is dogshit and you're better off using an actual art hosting platform like itaku, furaffinity, or deviantart, but then you wouldn't get the dopamine addiction associated with retweets, likes, and comments so they put up with lossy image compression."} | |
| {"text":"WTF is this real?!?!"} | |
| {"text":"I post to Deviant Art, Pixiv, Twitter, Instagram, NewGrounds and Tumblr and that's also the order from the most interaction to the least. With DeviantArt, Pixiv and NewGrounds your tags matter because people seek art with tags they like (character, series, subject, fetish, niche) and the sites list them chronologially so anyone with hard on for certain characters, series and fetishes check the latest uploaded art with those tags. I also recommend you making yourself E-Hentai gallery. Having your art on site that requires no signing in has its perks for both you and the audience. Use multiple sites instead of making your potential audience jump through hoops to find you. Different people use different sites so use as many sites as you like."} | |
| {"text":"How do I get gud at drawing butts? I mean really good butts."} | |
| {"text":"Cope and seethe retard. You can be bad and have shit taste for liking poorly drawn westoid art. AI tier feet Legs too short , wonky hands Troon jew nose and face Inconsistent perspective Lmao Lmao"} | |
| {"text":"wtf"} | |
| {"text":"pyw"} | |
| {"text":"look at butts and draw what you see. dont look at fucking anime garbage you pedo freak"} | |
| {"text":"You're suggesting OP draw the real stuff instead you sick fuck?"} | |
| {"text":"Why did art stagnate? The last big art movement was anime and that is at least 80 years old"} | |
| {"text":"The last big art movement was anime retard"} | |
| {"text":"He's right, animation is the medium, anime is the big art movement. There have been plenty of small ones e.g. superflat. since then but anime as a style is distinct. As broad as classical."} | |
| {"text":"3D animation was the last big art movement if you haven't been paying attention. It's was so big that companies that made their fame and fortune on traditional animation exclusively do 3D now. And yes, anime uses it too."} | |
| {"text":"When anime uses 3D its like they insult your intelligence that you can tell when they swap from 2D to 3D."} | |
| {"text":"It's actually disgusting. I'm surprised that Netflix Baki was so popular."} | |
| {"text":"What does this look acceptable despite all the proportion mistakes? Is polishing a turd actually good?"} | |
| {"text":"Believe it or not, people will eat a cake if it looks and tastes good enough. The biggest critics of the cake will be the both the original and other bakers, normies don't know and don't care as long as it is good enough."} | |
| {"text":"another quality /ic/ thread, good job op"} | |
| {"text":"Have you ever watched a cartoon/anime in your life?"} | |
| {"text":"proportion mistakes Why don't you redline it, anon? At least then this thread might have some value."} | |
| {"text":"Which way?"} | |
| {"text":"Mixing in linear light is sufficient. Dog, that doesn't do shit. Linear light does literally nothing if your colors are at 50% lightness. The fuck are you even talking about? consistent lightness, how is that not useful Because the interpolation IS NOT IN LAB. Consistent lightness matters so that you don't get halo artifacts from certain gradients (cyan + red leaves a dark purple border). Regardless of what color wheel you have, THIS STILL HAPPENS. This is the problem that LAB solves, and just changing the color picker does not solve this because the interpolation still changes the lightness. Mixbox does not fix this. Blending modes do not fix this. It is a fundamental issue with how transformations are done in RGB space, which all software still uses. Even Mixbox."} | |
| {"text":"Well, I'm sold. You faggots have shown me that the best thing to use is the one that actually gets you painting rather than mentally masturbating in a thread about shit that doesn't matter at all if you understand basic color theory."} | |
| {"text":"Dang, you have no clue huh. If you're working with 8bpc your color is gamma encoded. If it wasn't, you'd get banding in dark areas. Mixing of color needs to be done in linear space, otherwise result will be a lot darker than it should be. In cases where it's 16 or more bpc it might be already in linear light and then displayed on screen properly encoded. so that you don't get halo artifacts from certain gradients (cyan + red leaves a dark purple border) I don't even have software that's broken in this way. This is literally caused by what I just described, operating on gamma encoded data using linear math."} | |
| {"text":"i use krita but i really miss MSpaint's method of color selection because it made picking precise shades of the same color very easy. nowadays, whenever i make pixel art in krita i'm far more likely to use the burn or dodge tool, but once again it's not mathematically perfect the way MSpaint could let you space colors out by 5 or 10 points of value every time. i'm sure there's some better way of doing it, but i just haven't put the effort into learning."} | |
| {"text":"So I need critique on my art and how to improve the violence in whatever way possible. Thanks."} | |
| {"text":"Post your art then let's see what you have."} | |
| {"text":"Who the fuck even is that?"} | |
| {"text":"some character from poppy playtime."} | |
| {"text":"Stop stealing art online anon."} | |
| {"text":"In the cube at the top why does it have a gradient?"} | |
| {"text":"That's wicked deep."} | |
| {"text":"how are you supposed to learn from pictures like this this if you dont know where the lights are located?"} | |
| {"text":"it's a diffused light source from above"} | |
| {"text":"HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT?!?!?"} | |
| {"text":"Not that anon but you can use the shadows to determine light source. Is the shadow strong and solid? Direct light Is the shadow soft. Diffused light. Does it have multiple shadows? Multiple light sources. Trace a line from the corner of the shadow to the corner of the object that it relates too. Where is the line pointing? Is it above? Then light source is above."} | |
| {"text":"learned the basic fundies see wonky perspective intuitively know what's wrong and how to fix it just by seeing it see weak gesture intuitively know what's wrong and how to fix it just by seeing it see inaccurate anatomy intuitively know what's wrong and how to fix it just by seeing it Is there any way to learn this for other more advanced fundies? For example I'll draw an anime face and emotion from imagination, I can see it's wrong but have no idea why or how to fix it, or I'll invent some stylized shapes or stylized hair and they'll feel off and I won't know why I tried the copying method but it didn't get me anywhere after almost a year, stuff like pic related is my goal"} | |
| {"text":"holy ngmi"} | |
| {"text":"I think the artist just knows anatomy and has studied the planes of the head like the asaro thingy. He knows there is a protrusion below the eye due to the cheekbone, imagining an asaro head in this angle makes it much clearer."} | |
| {"text":"Studying realistic anatomy won't help you with that, this is how the cheek would realistically protrude, it's an anime convention to have it peak at the bottom near the jaw instead near the eye where it would logically be"} | |
| {"text":"Fucking listen to yourself. It's a cartoon head. He can hardly be said to even have a \"jaw.\" Animefags are the agents of their own misery."} | |
| {"text":"Grids Lmao"} | |
| {"text":"I realized I can create a shadow with my hand on the paper to see if the shadow on a drawing would be right before even start rendering the shadow"} | |
| {"text":"ive found a few color combos that work mostly through trial and error but whats a good way to get some hard theory on the subject?"} | |
| {"text":"any helpful people here?"} | |
| {"text":"What is your ideal?"} | |
| {"text":"Bouguereau i think."} | |
| {"text":"How does one begin the first steps to drawing exactly like the classical artists did?"} | |
| {"text":"pyw"} | |
| {"text":"You first"} | |
| {"text":"Now you."} | |
| {"text":"posts the guy I said to learn from You have gigaautism. Time to end it dude."} | |
| {"text":"Esl, much, lol?"} | |
| {"text":"Do these tutorials ever help anyone draw anything ever?"} | |
| {"text":"figure they're for people who treat drawing as a novelty like eating only things that start with A for a day or trying to bake crossaints once in your life"} | |
| {"text":"How do you design a character people fall in love with?"} | |
| {"text":"You don't need a writer just visual storytelling. \"In love\" means different things though. People can become drawn to emotionally appealing designs and that can be sex, cuteness, coolness or even weirdness. each direction has its own parameters. You can get people engaged through repetition. A lot of people love sanrio characters even if they have only ever seen static images on products because they're engineered for cuteness and consistently depicted doing funny or \"cozy\" things like gardening and cooking. I don't remember the name but there was a pity evoking character popular on twitter a couple years back. a blind girl who would have cruel pranks pulled on her. Specifically I remember one illustration showing her navitgating towards a toilet in which a plunger had been placed sticking straight up. People were really protective of her."} | |
| {"text":"ideal proportions study them"} | |
| {"text":"Hideaki Anno wanted the characters to be unlikeable due to their flaws Task failed successfully"} | |
| {"text":"You fall in love with them yourself first."} | |
| {"text":"This, but also make them hot."} | |
| {"text":"Why can't west animators do action scenes?"} | |
| {"text":"okay, then instead of rotoscopy, atla filmed live action footage and traced the frames before sending traced frames of live action footage to the koreans animate it as avatar characters"} | |
| {"text":"Read a hypothetical Unable to discern the meaning of a statement and only taking it at face value Do you morons read fiction and believe every word written? Holy shit. Just to let you guys know, harry potter isn't a real person, and Hogwarts isn't a real school. I should have said New Zealand instead of Africa, so you guys with black cocks on the brains could actually understand what was being said."} | |
| {"text":"Western animators can and do work on action scenes in anime however, the way the pipeline is set up in the US and the productions that are made over there don't give them the opportunity to. Most western studios handle preproduction up to the storyboard/animatic stage and the animation is made by overseas subcontracting studios, meaning there is no real scene for hand-drawn action animation. Off the top of my head, only Powerhouse and Titmouse produce that sort of thing."} | |
| {"text":"semi-related i guess why does her hand look so shitty? this kind of pose has been done thousands of times but it just looks off here am i being a schizo?"} | |
| {"text":"didnt post the image good job retard"} | |
| {"text":"japanese animators never draw from lif-ACK"} | |
| {"text":"dude on the right drew him with a massive dihh Erm what the freak."} | |
| {"text":"Americans"} | |
| {"text":"He's on team asia too, he has business in china all his merch gets done there too. I dunno about the p3d0 shit though, I don't think chinese likes that at all."} | |
| {"text":"It is okay to use the word pedophilia in here, this is not reddit or tumblr. I'm one. And scanners will still get p3d0 with basic regex"} | |
| {"text":"Drawing from memory > Drawing from imagination"} | |
| {"text":"Drawing from memory is a useless skill"} | |
| {"text":"How do you remember what an anime face looks like? Do you use your ass for that"} | |
| {"text":"Literally 101% of all professional artists have a selection of reference images at hand when drawing."} | |
| {"text":"What is happening that causes the floor to get darker as the boxes close in even though the lamp is directly above it for direct light"} | |
| {"text":"Everything radiates light all the time. The bottom formation floor will only retain the lamp light while the top formation floor gets light bounced onto it from the entire room."} | |
| {"text":"The boxes are blocking more photons (both coming directly from the source and bouncing from other parts of the room) that would normally hit the area between them."} | |
| {"text":"the machine elves use corners to power their realm, that means anything near corners will get darker"} | |
| {"text":"slide thread"} | |
| {"text":"The boxes are blocking the reflected light from everywhere else, and the walls of the boxes that face the gap are getting less light per unit surface area due to the very wide angle of incidence."} | |
| {"text":"How to make sense of transparent slime rendering, asking for a friend..."} | |
| {"text":"If you post an attempt it'll make explaining easier"} | |
| {"text":"This is too cluttered Should have made the bg plain white or something less vibrant"} | |
| {"text":"Like what said, it's way too busy. I'm not at my computer, so finger painting will have to do. Slime, a bit like jelly, captures a lot more light than the OP image shows. It's okay to not show absolutely everything, and making the lighting on her skin more matte is okay. Slime, compared to jelly, is less glossy, so enhancing that is a good idea. The original image reads as a mix between jelly and water because of the transparency, so making the colors more dull will help making the composition read better. Anyway, that's just my two cents. Take it with what you will. My attempt is shit, but I'm away on a trip, so I made due."} | |
| {"text":"Reminds me of old Duel Masters art"} | |
| {"text":"you fucking fuck this is a aislop image clearly u took the bait"} | |
| {"text":"I’ve been lurking for a while but I finally wanna start drawing. Problem is, I suck. Like, really bad. How do I stop drawing like a toddler with a head injury? Where do I even start? Books? YouTube? Do I just grind boxes for 100 years?"} | |
| {"text":"I'm 24 years old. I've wanted to do artwork for my entire life but have never been able to commit myself to it. This was thanks to being discouraged from my shaking hands, autism, ADHD and learning disabilities. Even when I was a teenager locked up in my room, I could never bring myself to do it. All of the methods and construction looked way too complex for me and I couldn't figure it out. The only thing I could do was type. That's it. Fast forward to now and I'm still having the same problem. I'm having trouble comprehending any guide I look at it or following it. Whenever I can't understand it, I just give up and go look at my phone again. It keeps happening. Every time I think about the fact that I can't draw it makes me feel depressed and hopeless. How do I finally become an artist?"} | |
| {"text":"if you are focused on how badly you suck and no how much you practice, you will always suck. keep practicing."} | |
| {"text":"Read the sticky Also this Me personally? I draw my waifu. To quote a meme that died out way too quickly, draw whatever \"sparks joy\". If you see something and like it, draw it. FwaP comes highly recommended for drawing people, but Keys to Drawing is better for drawing in general IMO."} | |
| {"text":"Filename You're not the real howie, faker"} | |
| {"text":"Use the grid method. Trace a bit, if you feel like it. Lower your aims: instead of trying to draw a person well, start by trying to draw simple figures such as squares, circles, equilateral triangles, until they start to look okay,"} | |
| {"text":"I want to get better at drawing AAAAAAAAAAAAH"} | |
| {"text":"Same, I've already accepted I'll never succeed though, life will only get worse and everything sucks harder with time, I regret not killing myself a couple of years back when my mind was more set for it, now I can't do it."} | |
| {"text":"you're just mad you don't have a successful art career like him"} | |
| {"text":"lmao why is she crying, it looks like she really will do everything except of the thing she wanted to improve"} | |
| {"text":"If you want to get better but aren't doing anything about it then you need to shut up."} | |
| {"text":"online complaining instead of drawing. tsk, tsk. this"} | |
| {"text":"Yehh, they must Scandinavians, those damn socialists with them healthcare, good living standards and shit. We should nvke them to fix them right"} | |
| {"text":"Because his are white, anon."} | |
| {"text":"define capitalism I'm poor and I want other people's money"} | |
| {"text":"?7"} | |
| {"text":"The rich brainwashing low iq gammons into hating refugees so they dont unionise and overthrow them"} | |