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For positive integer $n$, how many integer points can an $n$-by-$n$ square in the plane possibly cover?

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Let $E$ be the set of all numbers that an $n$-by-$n$ square can possibly cover. I guess\n\\begin{equation*}\nE=[n^2,n(n+1)]\\cup\\{(n+1)^2\\}.\n\\end{equation*}\nThe square $[0.5,n+0.5]\\times[0.5,n+0.5]$ covers $n^2$ integer points; the square $[0,n]\\times[0,n]$ covers $(n+1)^2$ integer points. If the latter is slightly tilted, it seems to miss at least $(n+1)$ integer points. It is not difficult to prove the number can \"continuously\" change from $n^2$ to $n(n+1)$, but whether $n^2$ is the minimum and whether $n(n+1)$ is maximal other than $(n+1)^2$ are not so clear to me.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325623, "author_name": "Oleg Orlov", "author_id": 552730, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/552730/oleg-orlov", "score": 1, "body_html": "A square can cover less than $n^2$ integer points, e. g. for $n=1$ the tilted square with center $(0.5,0.5)$ doesn't cover integer points.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 14:24:08Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325630, "author_name": "Haoran Chen", "author_id": 115637, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/115637/haoran-chen", "score": 0, "body_html": "@OlegOrlov Great point!", "created_date": "2026-03-04 15:12:13Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325660, "author_name": "Benjamin Baily", "author_id": 490938, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/490938/benjamin-baily", "score": 0, "body_html": "The $3\\times 3$ square $\\{(x,y): |x| + |y| \\leq 3/\\sqrt{2}\\}$ contains 13 integer points.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:22:34Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325661, "author_name": "Benjamin Baily", "author_id": 490938, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/490938/benjamin-baily", "score": 0, "body_html": "In general, $E$ can take the value $2z^2 - 2z + 1$, where $z = \\lceil n/\\sqrt{2}\\rceil$. When $n/\\sqrt{2}$ is close to an integer from above (e.g. $n = 3, 10$) this is outside your proposed range. See oeis.org/A235337.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:36:53Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508778, "question_id": 508744, "score": 0, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Elias Panholzer", "author_id": 586494, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/586494/elias-panholzer", "author_reputation": 140, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-05 10:09:52Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-05 10:24:18Z", "body_html": "
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Case 1: all 4 sides cover integer points: By Pick's theorem this number is given by $n^2+\\frac{4n}{2}+1=(n+1)^2$. Case 2: no side cover integer points: We look at the smaller included $(n-1)\\times(n-1)$ square with vertices with integer coordinates and obtain, by the same argument as in Case 1, $n^2$ covered integer points. Case 3: exactly two opposite sides cover integers: This is equivalent to Case 1, where by tilting $(n+1)$ integer points miss (side shifted away) and so the result is $(n+1)^2-(n+1)=n(n+1)$.

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Let $Y$ be an oriented $3$-dimesional manifold, given by a link of a surface quotient singularity. This means that $Y=S^3/G$ for some finite subgroup $G$ of $U(2)$, and the cone $CY=D^4/G$ of $Y$ naturally inherits a complex orbifold structure, with a unique singular point (the quotient singularity).

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Suppose we have an almost complex structure on the cylinder $Y\\times [0,1]$, which is a smooth, oriented $4$-manifold with boundary $Y\\times \\{0\\} \\amalg Y\\times \\{1\\}$. The orientation convention is that the obvious map $Y\\times \\{0\\} \\amalg Y\\times \\{1\\}\\to -Y\\amalg Y$ is orientation-preserving, where $-Y$ is the orientation reversal of $Y$. Can we extend the almost complex structure on $Y\\times [0,1]$ to an almost complex structure over the orbifold $Y\\times [0,1]\\cup CY$, where $CY$ is attached to the cylinder along $Y\\times \\{0\\}$ (the oriented boundary of $CY$ is $Y$)?

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The almost complex structure on $CY$ need not be the one coming from the complex structure, but I would also like to know when we can assume that the almost complex structure on $CY$ is the canonical one.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325709, "author_name": "Johannes Nordström", "author_id": 13061, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/13061/johannes-nordstr%c3%b6m", "score": 0, "body_html": "You say \"orbifold\", but you seem initially to not impose any conditions on Y that ensure that CY is an orbifold, making it hard to see what conditions you are hoping to satisfy near the vertex of the cone.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 09:31:14Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325710, "author_name": "blancket", "author_id": 168675, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/168675/blancket", "score": 0, "body_html": "@JohannesNordström You're right. Maybe I should focus on the special case that I mentioned, in which the orbifold structure is clear", "created_date": "2026-03-05 09:34:32Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508689, "title": "Nonlinear wave equation and the light cone", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508689/nonlinear-wave-equation-and-the-light-cone", "score": 0, "view_count": 113, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "reference-request;ap.analysis-of-pdes;wave-equation", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 18:53:20Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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I have a basic question about the nonlinear wave equation. I am looking to prove the existence of a self similar solution to a wave equation; say $u=u(x,t)$\n$$ u_{tt}-\\Delta_x u = |u|^{p-2} u$$ for $ x \\in \\mathbb{R}^N$ and $ t \\in \\mathbb{R}$ or a subset of the time interval (I am looking for backward of forward self similar). In the end I get an elliptic equation for $w(y)$. I have searched a bit and occasionally see some stuff that hints at solving the equation for $|y|<1$ is enough because $|y|=1$ is a characteristic. So my question is: if I solve the elliptic problem up to the boundary and show the solution is continuous on $B_1$ with $ w=0$ on $ \\partial B_1$ is this enough to claim I have found some sort of weak solution to the original problem or do I need $w$ to satisfy some specific BC's on $|y|=1$. Maybe this question doesn't belong here and rather on Mathstack exchange (I really don't know anything about the wave equation). Is there any basic references which talk about this? thanks

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EDIT. Let me be more specific. I have a pde similar to the above wave equation and when I look for self similar solutions I get some degenerate elliptic problem that degenerate on $|y|=1$ ($y$ is the self similar variable). I can solve this elliptic problem on $|y|<1$ with with $ w=0$ on $ |y|=1$ and maybe also a $ \\partial_\\nu w =0$ on $|y|=1$ and the solution on the elliptic problem has some nice properties. So I am interested if this gives new results on the wave equation and hence I want to know if solving on $B_1$ is sufficient. ChatGPT seems to say for the backward self similar it might be; for the forward it seems to say its not.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325473, "author_name": "Elias Panholzer", "author_id": 586494, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/586494/elias-panholzer", "score": 1, "body_html": "Vladimir Georgiev and Grozdena Todorova. \"Existence of a Solution of the Wave Equation with Nonlinear Damping and Source Terms\". In: Journal of Differential Equations, vol 109, iss 2: 295-308, 1994.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 08:41:41Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325519, "author_name": "Math604", "author_id": 66623, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/66623/math604", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks for the reference. Let me clarify what i am asking. I don't so much care about the result of of global existence versus and i don't even really care about this specific pde that much. I am really only interested in the specific stuff about the light cone and the boundary condition on. thanks", "created_date": "2026-03-03 15:28:34Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325588, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "score": 1, "body_html": "there is the Goursat problem, where you specify boundary conditions on characteristic surfaces; for the typical Cauchy problem the boundary conditions are on a space-like surface (say, initial time), and then no boundary conditions on the characteristic surfaces are allowed, these would make the problem overdetermined.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 07:14:26Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325648, "author_name": "Math604", "author_id": 66623, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/66623/math604", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks Carlo for the comment. Not sure I really understand it though (again I don't really know anything about the wave equation).", "created_date": "2026-03-04 18:50:12Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508160, "title": "Counterexamples in Simon-Smith min-max theory", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508160/counterexamples-in-simon-smith-min-max-theory", "score": 1, "view_count": 88, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "riemannian-geometry;geometric-measure-theory;minimal-surfaces", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 18:48:46Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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I am reading about the Simon-Smith min-max method for constructing minimal surfaces in 3-manifolds, following this survey by Colding and De Lellis.

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Here is what I understand:

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In light of this, I am looking for an example of a min-max sequence of surfaces in a 3-manifold, whose limiting varifold is stationary but not a smooth minimal surface. If you can also explain intuitively how the almost minimizing property helps avoiding this situation, that would help me a lot.

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Take $S^3(\\sqrt{2})\\#S^3(1)$ namely join these two 3-spheres with a tiny neck. Consider a sweepout that starts in the $S^3(1)$ region and at time $t_0$ looks like two crossing equatorial $S^2$'s. Then push one of the $S^2$'s back down and continue sweeping the other one upwards. If you do this correctly it will cross the equator in $S^3(\\sqrt{2})$ at $t_1$. Thus, this sweepout will have two max times, $t_0,t_1$ (both have area $8\\pi$). Both are stationary varifolds. However, the $t_0$ stationary varifold is not smooth (it's crossing of two smooth surfaces).

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Working out a picture of how this fails to be almost minimizing will be quite instructive.

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If we look at Wikipedia's list of hypergeometric identities, we find classic results such as Saalschütz's theorem—\n$${}_3F_2 (a,b, -n;c, 1+a+b-c-n;1)= \\frac{(c-a)_n(c-b)_n}{(c)_n(c-a-b)_n}$$\n—and Clausen's formula—\n$${}_3F_2(2c-2s-1, 2s, c-1/2; 2c-1, c; x)=\\, {}_2F_1(c-s-1/2,s; c; x)^2.$$\nThe vague question I have, which I will try to make more precise below, is whether all such identities have been discovered, or whether it's possible that a new identity might be discovered in the future.

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The first step toward making the question more precise is to specify the precise form of the identities under consideration. Let's say we fix the underlying field of constants to be $\\mathbb{Q}$. The simplest thing I can think of is to fix a finite number of indeterminates $a,b,c,\\ldots$ and allow a linear combination of ${}_mF_n$ expressions where the parameters are affine functions of the indeterminates, and the coefficients are rational functions of the indeterminates and of $x$. The \"constant term\" is trickier to specify; I guess we have to allow an integer parameter $n$ and the constant term will have the property that the ratio between the value of the term at $n+1$ and the value of the term at $n$ is a rational function of the indeterminates. I'm not sure exactly how to get all the details right here, but the point is to come up with the simplest possible family of expressions that includes all the classic identities.

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Having specified the class of allowable expressions, we can define some algebra of formal symbols, and hypothesize something like, the known identities generate all possible identities. That is, if we map the formal symbols to actual hypergeometric functions, then the kernel is generated by known identities.

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Anyway, I'm sure I haven't formulated the question completely correctly, but I'm wondering if anything like this could possibly be true, or even better, whether there's a known theorem along these lines.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325553, "author_name": "Steven Stadnicki", "author_id": 7092, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/7092/steven-stadnicki", "score": 1, "body_html": "Would all the sorts of things you're thinking about be covered by W-Z pairs? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilf%E2%80%93Zeilberger_pair", "created_date": "2026-03-03 20:17:33Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325559, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 1, "body_html": "@StevenStadnicki Possibly, but even if so, my question is really about the structure of the space of all W-Z pairs (of a certain form, I guess...), which I haven't seen discussed in the papers about the W-Z method that I'm aware of.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:37:01Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508745, "question_id": 508721, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "author_reputation": 91241, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-04 14:02:28Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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I did what I should have done before posting to MO, which is to ask Doron Zeilberger directly. Most of what follows is due to him or to references that he pointed to.

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There is a distinction between identities such as Saalschütz's theorem, which concern values of a hypergeometric function at a special point (usually a simple rational number), and transformation formulas such as Clausen's formula, which is valid for all arguments.

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A classification theorem for identities is probably hopeless, since it seems to be possible to generate an endless stream of sporadic examples if you put in enough effort. An early reference, which predates Wilf–Zeilberger, is Strange evaluations of hypergeometric series, by Ira Gessel and Dennis Stanton, SIAM J. Math. Anal. 13 (1982), 295–308. Other references include \nForty \"Strange\" Computer-Discovered [and Computer-Proved (of course!)]\nHypergeometric Series Evaluations by Shalosh B. Ekhad, Special values of the hypergeometric series by Akihito Ebisu (Mem. Amer. Math. Soc. 248 (2017)), and (Strange) gamma evaluations by Wadim Zudilin.

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By contrast, transformation formulas are much rarer. A good reference is Beyond the Beta Integral Method: Transformation Formulas for Hypergeometric Functions via Meijer's $G$ Function, by Dmitrii Karp and Elena Prilepkina, Symmetry 14.8 (2022), 1541. Referring to Bailey's classic book, Generalized Hypergeometric Series, Karp and Prilepkina write:

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His student, Lucy Joan Slater, attributes to L. J. Rogers the statement that after Bailey's work, \"nothing remains to be done in the field of hypergeometric series.\"

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However, Bailey did not prove any kind of classification theorem, and the point of Karp and Prilepkina's paper is to present a method that enables them to derive a large number of transformation formulas. They write:

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It is typically rather difficult to claim that a hypergeometric\ntransformation is new, as the literature is vast and there could always be a hidden trick\nas to how a “new” transformation can be derived from a known one. Hence, we simply\npresent all the formulas that we identified as interesting with the hope that some of them\nare indeed new.

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From this we can infer that even if we restrict to transformation formulas, there is no known theorem of the kind I was asking for. Perhaps, though, it is not hopeless for some such theorem to eventually be proved—though of course one would first need to state a precise conjecture, and even that does not seem to have been done.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325632, "author_name": "Alexandre Eremenko", "author_id": 25510, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25510/alexandre-eremenko", "score": 2, "body_html": "The question was whether the set of these identities is finitely generated, not \"how hard it is to find new ones\", or \"how to classify them\".", "created_date": "2026-03-04 15:38:52Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325637, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 0, "body_html": "@AlexandreEremenko Precisely. There is apparently no such theorem, and it seems that the empirical evidence is that they are not finitely generated. An explicit finite presentation would be a classification of sorts. Notice that in my attempt to make the question more precise, I said \"something like, the known identities generate all possible identities\" (formally). If sporadic examples seem to be findable at will then it's unlikely that the known identities formally generate all possible identities.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 16:56:49Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325674, "author_name": "Alexandre Eremenko", "author_id": 25510, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25510/alexandre-eremenko", "score": 0, "body_html": "I understand. But there is a possibility that there is some non-constructive \"finiteness theorem\" with a \"soft\" proof.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 01:10:13Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325675, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 0, "body_html": "@AlexandreEremenko That would be extremely interesting to me!", "created_date": "2026-03-05 01:11:06Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508723, "question_id": 508721, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "author_reputation": 206919, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-03 20:19:40Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 18:33:07Z", "body_html": "
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This may well be what you are looking for:
\nH. S. Wilf & D. Zeilberger, An algorithmic proof theory for hypergeometric\n(ordinary and \"q\") multisum/integral identities (1992).\nTheir finding is that \"a large class of hypergeometric identities can be embedded in a class of holonomic function identities, the elements of which are specifiable by a finite amount of data.\"
\nMy understanding is that these identities are generated by a finite basis of differential/recurrence relations, at least for fixed parameters; if you allow arbitrary shifts in parameters and arguments the set of hypergeometric identities is not finitely generated.

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At the risk of sinking out of my depth, let me try and follow up this question whether \"the set of all hypergeometric identities is finitely generated\". The classic example is the set of contiguous relations of Gauss hypergeometric functions, which are generated by a finite set of 15 primitive contiguous relations. My understanding of the WZ paper is that this \"finite generation\" is generalized to a much broader class of hypergeometric identities, of the form\n$$S(\\mathbf{\\alpha})=\\sum_k F(k,\\mathbf{\\alpha}),\\tag{1}$$\nwhere $F(k,\\alpha)$ is a general hypergeometric function in $k$, depending on parameters $\\mathbf{\\alpha}=(\\alpha_1,\\alpha_2,\\ldots\\alpha_m)$. \"Hypergeometric\" in this context means that $F(k+1,\\mathbf{\\alpha})/F(k,\\mathbf{\\alpha})$ is a rational function of $k$. The sum over $k$ is equated to an explicit closed form $S(\\mathbf{\\alpha})$. The WZ‑algorithm determines all linear recurrence relations in $\\mathbf{\\alpha}$ satisfied by $S(\\mathbf{\\alpha})$ and finds that these recurrences are generated by a finite set of primitive recurrences. In this algorithmic sense the infinite set of identities of the form (1) is \"finitely generated\".

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As far as I have been able to pick up from the literature, the requirement of a rational term ratio is essential for the finite generation. Identities for q-hypergeometric functions, with a term ratio that is rational in $q^k$ rather than in $k$, have infinitely many primitive identities.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325558, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 0, "body_html": "I have some familiarity with WZ theory, but I didn't think it answered my question. Can you elaborate on your italicized sentence? At first I thought you were quoting a theorem in the paper but I don't know exactly what result you mean.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:33:25Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325562, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 0, "body_html": "Also, to clarify, I'm not asking about the space of all identities that can be proven by the WZ method. Saalschütz's theorem and Clausen's formula have a very specific form, and there seems to be a short list of formulas of this type.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:40:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325564, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "score": 0, "body_html": "I clarified what is a quote from the WZ paper and what my understanding of the approach.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:54:04Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 61773, "title": "$p$-adic Langlands correspondence", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/61773/p-adic-langlands-correspondence", "score": 23, "view_count": 3000, "answer_count": 2, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 61808, "tags": "reference-request;nt.number-theory;galois-representations", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 18:00:02Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Basic question: Is it correct that the $p$-adic Langlands correspondence is known for $GL_2$ only over $Q_p$ but not other $p$-adic fields? If so, I would like to request some light to be shed on this restriction, i.e., why only $Q_p$ but not its extensions. Any reference for this (and prospects) would be much appreciated.

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Thanks!

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 155189, "author_name": "Chandan Singh Dalawat", "author_id": 2821, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2821/chandan-singh-dalawat", "score": 1, "body_html": "Start with Pierre Berger's recent Bourbaki exposé 1017 arxiv.org/abs/1002.4111.", "created_date": "2011-04-15 02:28:36Z" }, { "comment_id": 155213, "author_name": "Olivier", "author_id": 2284, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2284/olivier", "score": 3, "body_html": "If you read the proofs of the construction of the $p$-adic Langlands correspondence, you will see that the restriction $F=\\mathbb Q_{p}$ is ubiquitous, starting from (but not restricted to) the fact that you want the residual field to be cyclic. @Chandan Pierre Berger is an entrepreneur and benefactor unlikely ever to contribute to Bourbaki, it is of course Laurent you want.", "created_date": "2011-04-15 03:46:34Z" }, { "comment_id": 155324, "author_name": "Chandan Singh Dalawat", "author_id": 2821, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2821/chandan-singh-dalawat", "score": 4, "body_html": "Olivier : quelle bêtise de ma part ! C'est inexcusable, d'autant plus que je connais Laurent Berger, et j'ai beaucoup entendu parler de l'ami Pierre Bergé du feu Yves Saint-Laurent... Je demande pardon à Laurent.", "created_date": "2011-04-15 13:44:42Z" }, { "comment_id": 155326, "author_name": "Laurent Berger", "author_id": 5743, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5743/laurent-berger", "score": 7, "body_html": "@Chandan : tu es tout excusé!", "created_date": "2011-04-15 13:52:31Z" }, { "comment_id": 155327, "author_name": "Laurent Berger", "author_id": 5743, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5743/laurent-berger", "score": 7, "body_html": "Breuil has written an article for the ICM (\"The emerging p-adic Langlands programme\" see his webpage math.u-psud.fr/~breuil/publications.html), where he explains the difficulties in going from $Q_p$ to an extension.", "created_date": "2011-04-15 13:54:40Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 61808, "question_id": 61773, "score": 23, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "vytas", "author_id": 13024, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/13024/vytas", "author_reputation": 433, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2011-04-15 12:10:51Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 18:00:02Z", "body_html": "
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Yes, this is correct.

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The problem is that when you replace $Q_p$ by an extension, the dimension of $GL_2(F)$ as a $p$-adic analytic group increases. This also means that the cohomological dimension of its open subgroups increases. This leads to representation theory of $GL_2(F)$\nof being much more complicated than $GL_2(Q_p)$. For example, smooth irreducible $\\overline{\\mathbb F}_p$-representations have not been classified if $F\\neq Q_p$.

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Prototypical examle: Let $\\mathbb G=\\mathbb G_a$, and let $K=\\mathbb{G}(\\mathcal O_F)$.\nSo that $K$ is $(\\mathcal O_F, +)$. Then the completed group agebra $\\mathcal O[[K]]$\nis isomorphic to $\\mathcal O[[x_1, ..., x_d]]$, where $d=[F:Q_p]$, where $\\mathcal O$ is a ring of inegers in a finite extension of $Q_p$. The theory of modules of $\\mathcal O[[K]]$ is much easier, when $d=1$. If you want to see this in action have a look at\nEmerton's\n\"On a class of coherent rings, with applications to the smooth representation theory of GL_2(Q_p) in characteristic p\", available on his\n website .

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Since $GL_2(F)$ is locally pro-$p$ this problem does not arise if you are working over $\\mathbb C$ or $\\mathbb F_l$, $l\\neq p$.

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Regarding prospects for extending the correspondence to $GL_2(F)$ for other $F$,\none could look at Paškūnas's papers \"Coefficient systems and supersingular representations\", \"Towards a modulo $p$ Langlands correspondence for $GL_2(F)$\" (joint with C. Breuil),\nand \"Admissible unitary completions of locally $\\mathbb Q_p$-rational representations of\n$GL_2(F)$\", available on his website and/or the arXiv.

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There is also Breuil's ICM talk from last summer, \"The emerging $p$-adic Langlands program\", available at his website.\nThis gives a very nice survey of the whole state of the theory (which has remained relatively stable since then).

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Some commentary on Paškūnas's papers: In the $GL_2(\\mathbb Q_p)$ case, Breuil found that the numbers of irred. supersingular reps. of $GL_2(\\mathbb Q_p)$ mod $p$ matches with the numbers of $2$-dim'l irred. mod $p$ reps. of $G_{\\mathbb Q_p}$, and that there is even a natural way to match them (which is e.g. compatible with Serre's conjecture on weights of modular forms giving rise to mod $p$ global Galois reps.).

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It was then natural to conjecture that the same was true for $GL_2(F)$.\nThe first of these papers has the goal of verifying this conjecture. Indeed,\nit succeeds in constructing the right number\nof supersingular reps. mod $p$ of $GL_2(F)$. However, it was later realized that there was\nno way to match these with irred. Galois reps. in any way that is compatible with the Buzzard--Diamond--Jarvis (BDJ) conjecture (the generalization of Serre's conjecture to Hilbert modular forms).

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The second paper extends the techniques of the first, and shows in fact that when\n$F \\neq \\mathbb Q_p$ there are many, many more supersingulars than there are $2$-dim'l.\nirreps of $G_F$. It attempts to find order among this chaos by identifying certain classes of supersingulars which seem to have something to do with the Galois side (in the sense\nthat they match with the predictions of the BDJ conjecture).

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The third paper shows how to lift mod $p$ representations to $p$-adic Banach spaces\nrepresentations in interesting ways, and so can be thought of as (i) giving some evidence\nthat there will be a $p$-adic local Langlands for $GL_2(F)$, but also (ii) showing that\nunderstanding it will be at least as difficult as understanding the mod $p$ situation.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 155315, "author_name": "", "author_id": -1, "author_url": "", "score": 0, "body_html": "A very minor comment: I assume 'Breuil' instead of 'Breiul' is meant. ", "created_date": "2011-04-15 13:02:14Z" }, { "comment_id": 155325, "author_name": "Chandan Singh Dalawat", "author_id": 2821, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2821/chandan-singh-dalawat", "score": 0, "body_html": "I have taken the liberty of correcting the spelling.", "created_date": "2011-04-15 13:46:36Z" }, { "comment_id": 155415, "author_name": "SGP", "author_id": 11786, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11786/sgp", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you for a very clear and detailed answer! Thanks also for providing clear answers to many many questions on MO!", "created_date": "2011-04-15 21:11:27Z" }, { "comment_id": 155416, "author_name": "SGP", "author_id": 11786, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11786/sgp", "score": 0, "body_html": "I wish I could select both yours and Vytas answers. Thanks again", "created_date": "2011-04-15 21:13:12Z" }, { "comment_id": 155439, "author_name": "Emerton", "author_id": 2874, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2874/emerton", "score": 0, "body_html": "Dear SGP, You're welcome. Regards, Matthew", "created_date": "2011-04-16 00:10:42Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 488840, "title": "Binomial coefficient C(2k,n-1) alternative formula equivalent to the Vandermonde identity?", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/488840/binomial-coefficient-c2k-n-1-alternative-formula-equivalent-to-the-vandermonde", "score": 1, "view_count": 467, "answer_count": 3, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 488880, "tags": "reference-request;co.combinatorics;linear-algebra;binomial-coefficients;recurrences", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 17:31:53Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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I am working with a binomial sum that arises in some combinatorial arguments (and also appears in certain generating‐function manipulations). Specifically, I have this identity

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$$\n\\sum_{j=0}^{n}\n\\binom{k}{j}\\,\\binom{k}{n-j}\n\\;=\\;\n\\sum_{j=0}^{n}\n\\,(-1)^{\\,n-j}\n\\,\\frac{k-n}\n{\\displaystyle k - j}\\displaystyle \\binom{n}{j}\\,\\binom{k-1}{n}\\,\\binom{j+k}{n}\n\\,\\;=\\;\n\\binom{2k}{n}\\\n$$

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I’m trying to understand why these two sums are equal from a combinatorial perspective, and also which binomial-coefficient identities or transformations are used to rewrite one side into the other.

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Is there a known binomial identity that takes us directly from one to the other, or do I need a more intricate counting argument? Any insights or references to a standard identity would be really helpful.

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If it's a new one please propose a name for it

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Thank you everyone

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1274651, "author_name": "Max Alekseyev", "author_id": 7076, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/7076/max-alekseyev", "score": 0, "body_html": "Why is it important to link the two sums rather than link the second sum directly to the binomial coefficient $\\binom{2k}{n-1}$ ?", "created_date": "2025-03-04 15:04:24Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274652, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": 556642, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/556642/tigrannersissian", "score": 0, "body_html": "The goal here is to understand the combinatorial reasoning behind the equality of the two sums rather than just relying on an algebraic identity. If there is a direct counting argument that transforms one sum into the other, it would provide deeper insight into the underlying structure of the identity. Linking the second sum directly to $ \\binom{2k}{n-1}\\ $ might give a shortcut but wouldn’t necessarily reveal the combinatorial intuition behind it.", "created_date": "2025-03-04 15:11:22Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274653, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": 556642, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/556642/tigrannersissian", "score": 0, "body_html": "I want to know if the right side is a new identity, before starting to write a chapter about this in my article", "created_date": "2025-03-04 15:19:30Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274665, "author_name": "Peter Taylor", "author_id": 46140, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/46140/peter-taylor", "score": 1, "body_html": "Maybe more natural to rewrite slightly as $$\\sum_{j=0}^{n} \\binom{k}{j}\\binom{k}{n-j} = \\sum_{j=0}^{n} (-1)^{n-j} \\frac{k-n}{k-j}\\displaystyle \\binom{n}{j} \\binom{k}{n}\\binom{j+k}{n}$$", "created_date": "2025-03-04 16:57:05Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274673, "author_name": "Hjalmar Rosengren", "author_id": 10846, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/10846/hjalmar-rosengren", "score": 5, "body_html": "About your question whether the right identity is new. You can check this by writing it in standard hypergeometric notation. The sum is a multiple of $${}_3F_2\\left(\\begin{matrix}1-n,k+1,-k\\\\2+k-n,1-k\\end{matrix};1\\right).$$ This is a special case of the Pfaff-Saalschutz summation, see Eq. 16.4.3 on dlmf.nist.gov/16.4#ii.", "created_date": "2025-03-04 18:12:11Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 488880, "question_id": 488840, "score": 7, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "Ira Gessel", "author_id": 10744, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/10744/ira-gessel", "author_reputation": 17728, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2025-03-05 04:42:58Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 17:31:53Z", "body_html": "
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The identity is a special case of Saalschütz's theorem.\nThe second sum may be written as\n$$(-1)^n \\binom{k-1}{n}^2{}_3F_2\\left({-n,-k,k+1\\atop -k+1,k+1-n} \\biggm|1\\right)$$\nand the $_3F_2$ can be evaluated by Saalschütz's theorem.

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Added later: I missed Hjalmar Rosengren's comment, in which he said the same thing earlier.

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I arrived late to this game. Let's prove the identity with the help of the so-called Wilf-Zeilberger method of automatic proof.

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To this end, divide through by the factor $\\binom{2k}n$ so that we show\nthe two identities\n\\begin{align*}\n\\sum_{j=0}^{n}\n\\frac{\\binom{k}{j}\\binom{k}{n-j}}{\\binom{2k}n}=1 \\qquad \\text{and} \\qquad\n\\sum_{j=0}^{n}\n(-1)^{n-j}\n\\frac{(k-n)\\binom{n}{j}\\binom{k}{n}\\binom{j+k}{n}}{(k-j)\\binom{2k}n}=1.\n\\end{align*}\nDefine the functions $F_1(n,j):=\\frac{\\binom{k}{j}\\binom{k}{n-j}}{\\binom{2k}n}$\nand $G_1(n,j):= - \\frac12 \\frac{\\binom{k-1}{j-1}\\binom{k}{n+1-j}}{\\binom{2k-1}n}$. One can routinely check that $F_1(n+1,j)-F_1(n,j)=G_1(n,j+1)-G_1(n,j)$. Then, sum both sides over all integers $j$ (actually these are finite sums). The immediate impact is: the right-hand side vanishes. So, we obtain that $f_1(n+1)=f_1(n)$ where $f_1(n):=\\sum_{j=0}^n F_1(n,j)$. Compute the value at, say $n=0$ (and get $f_1(0)=1$) to confirm the first promised identity.

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I'll leave the 2nd identity because the procedure is very similar.

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I want to know if the right side is a new identity, before starting to write a chapter about this in my article

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This identity is known to Mathematica:

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1274664, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": 556642, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/556642/tigrannersissian", "score": 0, "body_html": "Yes Mathematica can simplify it to their factorial form, so the identity is True Sum[Binomial[k, j]*Binomial[k, (n - 1) - j], {j, 0, n - 1}] == -Sum[(k*(-1)^(n - j)*Binomial[n - 1, j]* Binomial[k - 1, n - 1]*Binomial[j + k, n - 1])/(k - j), {j, 0, n - 1}] return true But it does not imply that the identity is new or not right ? Thank you very much for your comment", "created_date": "2025-03-04 16:32:32Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274669, "author_name": "Iosif Pinelis", "author_id": 36721, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36721/iosif-pinelis", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Fibonacci : Right. However, I suspect that Mathematica derived this identity using some rather simple manipulations based on a vast collection of binomial identities that Mathematica has.", "created_date": "2025-03-04 17:32:36Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274711, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": 556642, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/556642/tigrannersissian", "score": 0, "body_html": "Yes totally agree with you, It can be nice if the method FullSimplify show the \"stacktrace\"", "created_date": "2025-03-04 22:34:50Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274793, "author_name": "Peter Taylor", "author_id": 46140, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/46140/peter-taylor", "score": 1, "body_html": "@IosifPinelis, unlikely. Searching for applicable identities is hard: Gosper's algorithm is easier and more general.", "created_date": "2025-03-05 08:17:39Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274847, "author_name": "Iosif Pinelis", "author_id": 36721, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36721/iosif-pinelis", "score": 0, "body_html": "@PeterTaylor : Thank you for your comment. However, the accepted answer suggests that, at least in this case, the identity was derived simply based on a known family of identities.", "created_date": "2025-03-05 15:52:05Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 472830, "title": "Show that $\\|P(f\\circ\\varphi_{\\lambda})-\\widetilde{f}(\\lambda)\\|_p=\\|P(f\\circ\\varphi_{\\lambda}-\\overline{P(\\overline{f}\\circ\\varphi_{\\lambda}}))\\|_p.$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/472830/show-that-pf-circ-varphi-lambda-widetildef-lambda-p-pf-circ-va", "score": 2, "view_count": 316, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "fa.functional-analysis;measure-theory;operator-theory;function-spaces;toeplitz-operators", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 17:11:15Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let $\\Omega = \\mathbb B_n,$ the unit ball in $\\mathbb C^n$ and $L^2_a(\\Omega)$ be the Bergman space endowed with the normalized volume measure on $\\Omega.$ Let $k_{\\lambda}$ be the associated Bergman reproducing kernel. Let $\\varphi_{\\lambda}$ be an analytic automorphism of $\\Omega$ having the properties $:$

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$(1)$ $\\varphi_{\\lambda} (\\lambda) = 0$

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$(2)$ $\\varphi_{\\lambda} \\circ \\varphi_{\\lambda} = \\text{Id}_{\\Omega}.$

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It is proved in Section $2.2$ in Rudin's Function Theory in the Unit Ball of $\\mathbb C^n$ that the real Jacobian of $\\varphi_{\\lambda}$ has the following form $:$\n$$J_{\\mathbb R} (\\varphi_{\\lambda}) (z) = \\frac {\\left \\lvert k_{\\lambda} (z) \\right \\rvert^2} {k_{\\lambda} (\\lambda)}.$$

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For a given $f \\in L^{\\infty} (\\Omega)$ we define the Berezin transform $\\widetilde f$ of $f$ in the following way $:$

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$$\\begin{align*} \\widetilde {f} (\\lambda) & = \\left \\langle f \\frac {k_{\\lambda}} {\\|k_{\\lambda}\\|_2}, \\frac {k_{\\lambda}} {\\|k_{\\lambda}\\|_2} \\right \\rangle \\\\ & = \\frac {1} {k_{\\lambda} (\\lambda)} \\int_{\\Omega} f(z)\\ \\left \\lvert k_{\\lambda} (z) \\right \\rvert^2\\ dV(z) \\end{align*}$$

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By change of variable formula we have $$\\widetilde {f} (\\lambda) = \\int_{\\Omega} f \\circ \\varphi_{\\lambda}\\ dV.$$

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In Corollary $10$ of the paper Toeplitz and Hankel Operators on Bergman Spaces authored by Karel Stroethoff and Dechao Zheng it is claimed that if $P$ denotes the Bergman projection then

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$$\\left\\|P\\left(f\\circ\\varphi_{\\lambda}\\right)-\\widetilde{f}(\\lambda)\\right\\|_p=\\left\\|P\\left(f\\circ\\varphi_{\\lambda}-\\overline{P\\left(\\overline{f}\\circ\\varphi_{\\lambda}\\right)}\\right)\\right\\|_p.$$

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But I am having hard time following this claim. Any help in this regard would be warmly appreciated.

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Thanks for your time.

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I think it goes like this.

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\\begin{align*}\nP \\big(\\overline{P(\\overline{f} \\circ \\varphi_\\lambda}) \\big) (w) & = \\int_\\Omega \\overline{P(\\overline{f} \\circ \\varphi_\\lambda}) (z) \\overline{k_w(z)} dV(z) \\\\ \n& = \\int_\\Omega \\int_\\Omega f \\circ\\varphi_\\lambda(\\eta) k_z(\\eta) dV(\\eta) \\overline{k_w(z)} dV(z) \\\\\n& = \\int_\\Omega f \\circ \\varphi_\\lambda(\\eta) \\overline{\\int_\\Omega k_\\eta(z)k_w(z) dV(z)} dV(\\eta) \\\\ \n& = \\int_\\Omega f \\circ \\varphi_\\lambda (\\eta) dV(\\eta) = \\tilde{f}(\\lambda).\n\\end{align*}

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The second to last inequality comes from the fact that for the unit ball and the polydisc if $F$ is a holomorphic function and $dV$ is the normalized area measure then $\\int_\\Omega F(z) dV(z) = F(0) $.

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In Grothendieck's Sketch of a Programme he spends a few pages discussing polyhedra over arbitrary rings and concludes with some intriguing remarks on specializing polyhedra over their \"most singular characteristics\". I am having trouble understanding what he means or finding other references.

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Here is a link to the version of Sketch I was reading.\nSketch of a Programme

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More specifically, Grothendieck begins (p. 252):

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In 1977 and 1978, in parallel with two C4 courses on the geometry of the cube and that of the icosahedron, I began to become interested in regular polyhedra, which then appeared to me as particularly concrete “geometric realizations” of combinatorial maps, the vertices, edges and faces being realised as points, lines and plans respectively in a suitable 3-dimensional affine space, and respecting incidence relations. This notion of a geometric realisation of a combinatorial map keeps its meaning over an arbitrary base field, and even over an arbitrary base ring. It also keeps its meaning …

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My understanding is that he is viewing the polyhedron as a configuration of affine subspaces—what does he mean by \"combinatorial maps\"? This seems to be the key to understanding the last line, on the concept making sense over an arbitrary ring.

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The most curious remark comes at the end of this section where he writes (p. 255):

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… on the already known cases. Thus, examining the Pythagorean polyhedra one after the other, I saw that the same small miracle was repeated each time, which I called the combinatorial paradigm [underlined in original] of the polyhedra under consideration. Roughly speaking, it can be described by saying that when we consider the specialisation of the polyhedra in the or one of the most singular characteristic(s) (namely characteristics 2 and 5 for the icosahedron, characteristic 2 for the octahedron), we read off from the geometric regular polyhedron over the finite field ($\\mathbb F_4$ and $\\mathbb F_5$ for the icosahedron, $\\mathbb F_2$ for the octahedron) a particularly elegant (and unexpected) description of the combinatorics of the polyhedron. It seems to me that I perceived there a principle of great generality, which I believed I found again for example in a later reflection on the combinatorics of the system of 27 lines on a cubic surface, and its relations with the root system $E_7$. Whether it happens that such a principle really exists, and even that we succeed in uncovering it from its cloak of fog, or that it recedes as we pursue it and ends up vanishing like a Fata Morgana, I find in it for my part a force of motivation, a rare fascination, perhaps similar to that of dreams. No doubt that following such an unformulated call, the unformulated seeking form, from an elusive glimpse which seems to take pleasure in simultaneously hiding and revealing itself — can only lead far, although no one could predict where…

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How is he determining the \"most singular characteristics\" of these polyhedra? If I can understand the combinatorial maps comment above, it may make more sense how he is considering the specializations of icosahedra over finite fields. What is the elegant description of their combinatorics Grothendieck refers to?

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If anyone can explain Grothendieck's comments or point to other references, I would be appreciative.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 488061, "author_name": "Matthias Wendt", "author_id": 50846, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/50846/matthias-wendt", "score": 0, "body_html": "Could the singular characteristic have something to do with the modular representation theory of the automorphism groups? Also, isn't it more natural to relate the 27 lines to $E_6$ instead of $E_7$?", "created_date": "2015-02-07 15:23:02Z" }, { "comment_id": 488062, "author_name": "Matthias Wendt", "author_id": 50846, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/50846/matthias-wendt", "score": 1, "body_html": "Maybe the following paper is relevant: B. Monson, E. Schulte. Reflection groups and polytopes over finite fields I. Advances Applied Mathematics 33 (2004), 290--317", "created_date": "2015-02-07 15:27:22Z" }, { "comment_id": 1018270, "author_name": "user149000", "author_id": 50638, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/50638/user149000", "score": 4, "body_html": "He defines maps in a previous section essentially as graphs on surfaces. As he explains in the same section, one can view a regular polyhedron as defined simply by its (oriented) automorphism group acting on a flag (vertex + center of side + center of face), and each generator is simply a linear polynomial in the flag. The polyhedron chosen determines the angles, which determines the polynomial. One can consider these same equations in various characteristics, which gives you the specializations. However I don't know what description he refers to (maybe you need a projective context).", "created_date": "2021-07-14 22:25:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1257449, "author_name": "mr_e_man", "author_id": 134099, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/134099/mr-e-man", "score": 0, "body_html": "@user149000 \"and each generator is simply a linear polynomial in the flag\" - Can you clarify?", "created_date": "2024-11-20 20:00:29Z" }, { "comment_id": 1257647, "author_name": "user149000", "author_id": 50638, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/50638/user149000", "score": 0, "body_html": "@mr_e_man See arxiv.org/abs/2304.03345", "created_date": "2024-11-22 04:48:41Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 423573, "question_id": 195938, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "user234212323", "author_id": 429204, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/429204/user234212323", "author_reputation": 934, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-05-29 18:18:42Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 16:04:28Z", "body_html": "
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Not an exact answer to your question but maybe it can be helpful to know:

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La théorie combinatoire de l'icosaèdre by V Diekert

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This was a \"Rapport pour un DES d'université de l'année 1977/78\" under Grothendieck.

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I have been exploring a combinatorial approach to express Chebyshev polynomials and generalizing them through a recurrence relation. I would like to know whether this recurrence relation can be proven using induction or a combinatorial approach.

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\\begin{eqnarray}\n\\Re[e^{in\\theta}] &=& \\cos(n\\theta) \\\\\n&=& \\Re\\left[\\sum_{k=0}^{n} \\binom{n}{k} \\cos^{n-k}(\\theta) \\cdot (i \\sin \\theta)^k\\right] \\\\\n&=& \\Re\\left[\\sum_{0 \\leq 2k \\leq n} \\binom{n}{2k} \\cos^{n-2k}(\\theta) \\cdot (-\\sin^2 \\theta)^k\\right] \\\\\n&=& \\sum_{0 \\leq 2k \\leq n} \\binom{n}{2k} \\cos^{n-2k}(\\theta) \\cdot (\\cos^2 \\theta - 1)^k \\\\\n&=& \\sum_{0 \\leq 2j \\leq n} (-1)^j \\cos^{n-2j}(\\theta) \\sum_{2j \\leq 2k \\leq n} \\binom{n}{2k} \\binom{k}{j}.\n\\end{eqnarray}

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Thus, we can express $\\cos(n\\theta)$ in terms of powers of $\\cos(\\theta)$. Substituting $\\cos(\\theta) = x$, we obtain a polynomial, proving the existence of $T_n(x)$:

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[Symbolic Representation of Chebyshev Polynomials]\n\\begin{eqnarray}\nT_n(x) = \\sum_{0 \\leq 2j \\leq n} (-1)^j x^{n-2j} \\sum_{2j \\leq 2k \\leq n} \\binom{n}{2k} \\binom{k}{j}.\n\\end{eqnarray}

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The recursive relation for Chebyshev polynomials $T_n(x)$ is given by:\n\\begin{eqnarray}\nT_n(x) = 2xT_{n-1}(x) - T_{n-2}(x)\n\\end{eqnarray}\nwith initial conditions:\n$$T_0(x) = 1, \\quad T_1(x) = x.$$

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Using \"constructive\" approaches, we can generalize the Chebyshev polynomials by starting with the combinatorial representation of $T_n(x)$.

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[Generalized Symbolic Chebyshev Polynomials]\n\\begin{eqnarray}\nG_{n,m,d}(h,t) = \\sum_{0 \\leq mj \\leq n} \\sum_{mj \\leq mp \\leq n-dj} \\binom{n-dj}{mp} \\binom{p}{j} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j.\n\\end{eqnarray}

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If $m = 2p$, where $p \\in \\mathbb{N}$, then:\n\\begin{eqnarray}\nG_{n,m,d}(h,t) = \\left(\\sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \\binom{m}{k} h^k (-1)^{k+1} G_{n-k,m,d}(h,t)\\right) + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d,m,d}(h,t).\n\\end{eqnarray}

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If $m = 2p + 1$, where $p \\in \\mathbb{N}$, then:\n\\begin{eqnarray}\nG_{n,m,d}(h,t) = \\left(\\sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \\binom{m}{k} h^k (-1)^{k+1} G_{n-k,m,d}(h,t)\\right) + 2h^m G_{n-m,m,d}(h,t) + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d,m,d}(h,t).\n\\end{eqnarray}

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To define the first $m+d$ terms, we use the explicit formula. Additionally, when evaluating the function $G$ for certain parameters, we obtain the following equality:\n$$G_{n,2,0}(x,-1) = T_n(x).$$

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Questions:

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More generally, is this line of research valuable? I am not a mathematician and I am working alone without support (I don't have formal guidance from peers), so I wonder whether this is a direction worth exploring further.

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Any insights or references would be greatly appreciated!

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I want to share all my work with the community (this only one chapter), but it's not ready and I’m struggling with writing my article because I don’t know which parts are important for other mathematicians. I find it hard to structure everything clearly because, to me, every aspect feels important. Additionally, since a lot of my work is constructive, there are actual proofs, but I struggle to write them down properly. Initially, I was working on computational irreducibility in cellular automata, like Rule 30.

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Example of other identity involved in the article Binomial coefficient C(2k,n-1) alternative formula equivalent to the Vandermonde identity?

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Example of cellular automaton generated when evaluating G with random parameters:

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Update 3/12/2025:

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We can derive the general term of the Fibonacci sequence (or K-bonacci sequence) defined by the recurrence relation:

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\\begin{align}\nf_{n,k+1} &= \\sum_{j=1}^{k+1} f_{n-j,k+1}\\\\\n f_{n,k+1} &= \\sum _ {j=0}^{\\left\\lfloor\\frac{n}{k+1}\\right \\rfloor } (-1)^{j+1} 2^{n-j (k+2)} \\left(\\binom{n-(k+1) j}{j}-2 \\binom{-((k+1) j)+n+1}{j} \\right) \\\\\n&= \\sum _ {j=0}^{\\left\\lfloor \\frac{n+1}{2}\\right \\rfloor } \\left(\\sum _ {p=j}^{\\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor } (-1)^j \\binom{p}{j} \\binom{-j k+n+1}{2 p} \\right) \\\\\n&= \\sum _ {j=0}^{\\left\\lfloor \\frac{n+1}{2}\\right \\rfloor } (-1)^j \\bigg(-\\binom{-j k+n+1}{2 \\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor } \\binom{\\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor }{j} \\, \\\\\n&\\quad \\,_3F_2\\left(1,\\frac{j k}{2}+\\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor -\\frac{n}{2}-\\frac{1}{2},\\frac{j k}{2}+\\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor -\\frac{n}{2};\\right. \\\\\n&\\quad \\left. \\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor +\\frac{1}{2},-j+\\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor +1;1\\right) \\\\\n&\\quad +\\binom{-j k+n+1}{2 \\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor } \\binom{\\left\\lfloor \\frac{1}{2} (-j k+n+1)\\right \\rfloor }{j} \\\\\n&\\quad +\\binom{-j k+n+1}{2 j} \\, \\,_2F_1\\left(\\frac{1}{2} ((k+2) j-n-1),\\frac{k j}{2}+j-\\frac{n}{2};j+\\frac{1}{2};1\\right) \\bigg).\n\\end{align}

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1274717, "author_name": "darij grinberg", "author_id": 2530, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2530/darij-grinberg", "score": 1, "body_html": "Without getting into anything deep, a few comments: Have you seen the work of Arthur Benjamin and others, e.g., scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/… ? And while I don't know where your \"Generalized Symbolic Chebyshev Polynomials\" are coming from, they look to me like a combinatorially expanded solution to a linear recurrence. There is likely a lot of work on that. For example, you can write a linear recurrence as powers of a matrix, but then you can do various matrix manipulations that result in binomial sums.", "created_date": "2025-03-04 23:11:01Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274719, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": 556642, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/556642/tigrannersissian", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you @darijgrinberg for your comment! I haven’t yet looked into Arthur Benjamin’s work in detail, but I’ll definitely check the reference you shared. Regarding the 'Generalized Symbolic Chebyshev Polynomials,' they emerged from a combinatorial construction I’m working on. Initially, I was modifying the binomial coefficient formulation of Chebyshev polynomials and observed a structural change in the recurrence relation. This led me to conjecture that the recurrence could be generalized through a different combinatorial framework, which eventually resulted in the expressions I posted.", "created_date": "2025-03-04 23:23:40Z" }, { "comment_id": 1274720, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": 556642, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/556642/tigrannersissian", "score": 0, "body_html": "Your observation that this resembles a combinatorially expanded solution to a linear recurrence is very interesting—especially the connection to matrix powers and binomial manipulations, it makes sense in the context of structured linear recurrences. Would you happen to know any specific references or examples of such matrix-based approaches to binomial sums? That could help me refine my formulation further. Thanks again for your insights!", "created_date": "2025-03-04 23:24:22Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508749, "question_id": 488866, "score": 0, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "TigranNersissian", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 1, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-04 15:34:09Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Proof. Given the generalized Chebyshev polynomial:\n$$G_{n,m,d}(h,t) = \\sum_{0 \\leq mj \\leq n} \\sum_{mj \\leq ml \\leq n-dj} \\binom{n-dj}{ml} \\binom{l}{j} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j$$\nThe recurrence relation is defined by the parity of $m$:\n

\nIf $m = 2p$ ($p \\in \\mathbb{N}$):\n$$G_{n,m,d}(h,t) = \\left(\\sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \\binom{m}{k} h^k (-1)^{k+1} G_{n-k,m,d}(h,t)\\right) + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d,m,d}(h,t)$$\n
\nIf $m = 2p + 1$ ($p \\in \\mathbb{N}$):\n$$G_{n,m,d}(h,t) = \\left(\\sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \\binom{m}{k} h^k (-1)^{k+1} G_{n-k,m,d}(h,t)\\right) + 2h^m G_{n-m,m,d}(h,t) + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d,m,d}(h,t)$$

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To establish this recurrence, we employ a finite difference approach combined with a classic binomial identity. Let us rename the inner summation index from $p$ to $l$ to avoid confusion with the parity parameter $p$ where $m = 2p$ or $m = 2p+1$.

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Step 1: Set Up the m-th Difference Sum

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We evaluate the following sum, which represents the m-th order finite difference, which we will call $S$:

\n$$S = \\sum_{k=0}^m \\binom{m}{k} (-h)^k G_{n-k,m,d}(h,t)$$\n

Substitute the definition of $G_{n-k,m,d}(h,t)$ into $S$:

\n$$S = \\sum_{k=0}^m \\binom{m}{k} (-h)^k \\sum_{j} \\sum_{l} \\binom{n-k-dj}{ml} \\binom{l}{j} h^{n-k-j(d+2)} t^j$$\n

The powers of $h$ combine such that $(-h)^k \\cdot h^{n-k-j(d+2)} = (-1)^k h^{n-j(d+2)}$. Swapping the order of summation and pulling the $h$ and $t$ terms out:

\n$$S = \\sum_{j} \\sum_{l} \\binom{l}{j} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j \\left[ \\sum_{k=0}^m (-1)^k \\binom{m}{k} \\binom{n-dj-k}{ml} \\right]$$\n

Step 2: Apply the Binomial Identity

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The inner bracket is a known binomial identity related to the m-th difference of a polynomial. For any integers $A$ and $B$:

\n$$\\sum_{k=0}^m (-1)^k \\binom{m}{k} \\binom{A-k}{B} = \\binom{A-m}{B-m}$$\n

By setting $A = n-dj$ and $B = ml$, the bracket simplifies to:

\n$$\\binom{n-dj-m}{ml-m} = \\binom{n-dj-m}{m(l-1)}$$\n

Substituting this back into $S$:

\n$$S = \\sum_{j} \\sum_{l} \\binom{n-dj-m}{m(l-1)} \\binom{l}{j} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j$$\n

Step 3: Index Shifting and Pascal's Rule

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Shift the index $l$ down by 1. Let $l' = l - 1$, so $l = l' + 1$:

\n$$S = \\sum_{j} \\sum_{l'} \\binom{n-m-dj}{ml'} \\binom{l'+1}{j} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j$$\n

Using Pascal's Identity, $\\binom{l'+1}{j} = \\binom{l'}{j} + \\binom{l'}{j-1}$. This splits $S$ into two separate sums, $S_1$ and $S_2$:

\n$$S = S_1 + S_2$$\n

Evaluating $S_1$:

\n$$S_1 = \\sum_{j} \\sum_{l'} \\binom{n-m-dj}{ml'} \\binom{l'}{j} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j$$\n

By factoring $h^m$ out of the exponent where $n-j(d+2) = (n-m)-j(d+2)+m$, we get the definition of $G_{n-m}$:

\n$$S_1 = h^m G_{n-m, m, d}(h,t)$$\n

Evaluating $S_2$:

\n$$S_2 = \\sum_{j} \\sum_{l'} \\binom{n-m-dj}{ml'} \\binom{l'}{j-1} h^{n-j(d+2)} t^j$$\n

Shift the index $j$ down by 1. Let $j' = j - 1$, so $j = j' + 1$:

\n$$S_2 = \\sum_{j'} \\sum_{l'} \\binom{n-m-d(j'+1)}{ml'} \\binom{l'}{j'} h^{n-(j'+1)(d+2)} t^{j'+1}$$\n

Simplifying the exponents and binomial top, and factoring out $h^{m-2}t$, we are left with the definition of $G_{n-m-d}$:

\n$$S_2 = h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d, m, d}(h,t)$$\n

Step 4: Isolate $G_n$ and Evaluate Parity

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We have proven that:

\n$$\\sum_{k=0}^m \\binom{m}{k} (-h)^k G_{n-k} = h^m G_{n-m} + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d}$$\n

Pull the $k=0$ term out of the sum, and move the rest to the right side:

\n$$G_n = -\\sum_{k=1}^{m} \\binom{m}{k} (-h)^k G_{n-k} + h^m G_{n-m} + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d}$$\n

Extract the $k=m$ term from the sum so it matches the upper bound $m-1$:

\n$$G_n = \\sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \\binom{m}{k} (-1)^{k+1} h^k G_{n-k} - (-1)^m h^m G_{n-m} + h^m G_{n-m} + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d}$$\n

Combine the $G_{n-m}$ terms:

\n$$G_n = \\sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \\binom{m}{k} (-1)^{k+1} h^k G_{n-k} + h^m(1 - (-1)^m) G_{n-m} + h^{m-2} t G_{n-m-d}$$\n

The recurrence depends on the parity of $m$:

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In the diagram, circles of the same color are congruent.

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\"Sequence

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I have a nonintuitive proof that the radii converge. Is there an intuitive explanation?

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325491, "author_name": "Saúl RM", "author_id": 172802, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/172802/sa%c3%bal-rm", "score": 0, "body_html": "Why is the proof non-intuitive? If you mean all the big formulas, they can be avoided in a proof, i.e. one does not need an explicit expression relating the radii to complete the proof", "created_date": "2026-03-03 11:42:12Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325497, "author_name": "Dan", "author_id": 494920, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/494920/dan", "score": 0, "body_html": "@SaúlRM Yes, I mean all the big formulas. How can it be proved without an expression relating the radii?", "created_date": "2026-03-03 11:49:41Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325507, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 0, "body_html": "@SaúlRM I think that's a sound approach. If you choose to write it up properly, I think it'd be better to write it in terms of radius as a function $\\beta$ of the angle. The radius of the $n$-th pair of circles is then a product of values of $\\beta$ at angle differences, and if you know $\\beta$ is differentiable, you can relate this product to the sum of angles, which as you say is bounded.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 13:04:26Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325527, "author_name": "Saúl RM", "author_id": 172802, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/172802/sa%c3%bal-rm", "score": 0, "body_html": "I added an answer, I will delete my previous comments to save comment space", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:19:10Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508712, "question_id": 508702, "score": 5, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "Iosif Pinelis", "author_id": 36721, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36721/iosif-pinelis", "author_reputation": 146947, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:06:44Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 15:46:01Z", "body_html": "
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As noted in the comment, apparently I misunderstood the question. I did not notice the ellipsis in the picture in the OP and therefore thought that the process begins from the red circles and goes right-to-left.

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So, I will retain the right-to-left-interpretation solution but will now add -- based on the same idea -- a simple and complete left-to-right-interpretation proof.

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First here is the original, right-to-left solution, given while apparently misunderstanding the question:

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The radii will be decreasing (and hence converging) iff the angle between the line through the centers of the red circles with the negative horizontal axis will be $<\\pi/3$.

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So, it is enough to show the angle between the line through the centers of the green circles with the negative horizontal axis is less than the angle between the line through the centers of the red circles with the negative horizontal axis.

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But clearly $a<\\pi/3<b$ in the picture below, so that $a<b$. $\\quad\\Box$

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Now, with the ellipsis noticed, it is easy to adapt the idea used above, to the opposite, left-to-right direction, to a get a simple complete proof of the apparently desired result. Indeed, now let $a_n:=a<\\pi/3<b=:b_n$, and also let $r_n$ and $r_{n+1}$ denote the respective radii of the green and red circles. Then the angle between the line through the centers of the green circles and the line through the centers of the red circles is $b_n-a_n$, so that $\\sum_n(b_n-a_n)<\\infty$ and hence $a_n,b_n\\to\\pi/3$. On the other hand, considering the two isosceles triangles in the picture above and using the first-order Taylor expansion of $\\cos$ at $\\pi/3$, we see that\n$$\\frac{r_{n+1}}{r_n}=\\frac{\\cos a_n}{\\cos b_n}\n=\\exp\\big((\\sqrt3+o(1))\\,(b_n-a_n)\\big).$$\nIt remains to recall that $\\sum_n(b_n-a_n)<\\infty$. $\\quad\\Box$

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325526, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 2, "body_html": "I'm very confused by this answer. The radii will be quite clearly increasing with every step, the question is whether they remain bounded or not.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:18:19Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325529, "author_name": "Iosif Pinelis", "author_id": 36721, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36721/iosif-pinelis", "score": 1, "body_html": "@Wojowu : I guess I misunderstood the question. I thought the process begins from the red circles.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:21:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325581, "author_name": "Iosif Pinelis", "author_id": 36721, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36721/iosif-pinelis", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Wojowu : This misunderstanding is now completely fixed.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 04:12:30Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325617, "author_name": "Dan", "author_id": 494920, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/494920/dan", "score": 0, "body_html": "Very elegant! Thank you.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 12:58:02Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325618, "author_name": "Iosif Pinelis", "author_id": 36721, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36721/iosif-pinelis", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Dan : Thank you for your appreciation.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 13:13:52Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508705, "question_id": 508702, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "author_reputation": 206919, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-03 11:30:42Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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The intuitive explanation is that the sequence approaches the hexagonal close packing, two staggered rows of identical circles:

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Because the sequence of radii is monotonically increasing and bounded by this \"perfect fit\" geometry, it must converge to a finite limit.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325490, "author_name": "Dan", "author_id": 494920, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/494920/dan", "score": 3, "body_html": "But why can't the circles grow without bound as they approach hexagonal close packing?", "created_date": "2026-03-03 11:39:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325502, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 1, "body_html": "If you try deforming the perfect packing by moving one circle and adjusting the size of all the other ones, then this forces all the ones on one of the sides to become larger. It is not clear at all that they will eventually approach a larger perfect tiling, rather than say growing logarithmically or so.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 12:05:46Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325503, "author_name": "Saúl RM", "author_id": 172802, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/172802/sa%c3%bal-rm", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Wojowu I believe that possibility is made impossible by my comments to the question (which perhaps I should have written as an answer but I did not have much time now)", "created_date": "2026-03-03 12:10:21Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325504, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 2, "body_html": "One can try to compare it with some other sort of iteration, say $(a,b)\\to(a+\\frac{(a-b)}{b},b+\\frac{(a-b)}{b})$. Naively you may think that this iteration \"approaches\" a constant sequence $(a,a)$, and indeed upon iteration we will have $a/b\\to 1$, but nevertheless this sequence will diverge for $a\\neq b$. So there must be something more going on in OP's problem to make such \"convergence in shape, divergence in size\" not occur here.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 12:12:07Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508714, "question_id": 508702, "score": 5, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Saúl RM", "author_id": 172802, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/172802/sa%c3%bal-rm", "author_reputation": 13476, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:18:10Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-03 19:35:28Z", "body_html": "
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Here is a proof that the radii converge without using any big formulas.

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Let $r>0$, and consider the following setup in $\\mathbb{R}^2$, where the two smaller circles have radius $r$:

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The angles $\\alpha(r),\\beta(r)$ are decreasing with $r$, in particular $\\alpha'(r),\\beta'(r)<0$ for all $r\\in(0,\\infty)$. Let $\\gamma(r)=\\alpha(r)+\\beta(r)-\\pi/2$.

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Now, in your figure, let $A_n,B_n$ be the centers of the $n^{\\text{th}}$ circle, $r_n$ the $n^{\\text{th}}$ radius and $\\alpha_n$ the angle between the the $x$-axis and the ray $B_nA_n$ (so in the picture $\\alpha_0=\\pi$ and the sequence $(\\alpha_n)$ looks decreasing in the first few steps). Note the function $f:(0,\\pi)\\to(0,\\pi)$ that gives $\\alpha_{n+1}$ in terms of $\\alpha_n$ has fixed point $f(2\\pi/3)=2\\pi/3$ (see Carlo Beenaker's answer), and $f(\\pi)<\\pi$. Moreover, $f$ is increasing in $[2\\pi/3,\\pi]$; this is equivalent to saying that the angle $\\theta(r)$ from the picture is increasing whenever it is defined, which is true because when $r$ increases, the point $F$ moves clockwise.

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Thus, $\\alpha_n$ is decreasing and converges when $n\\to\\infty$, and $r_{n+1}/r_n\\to1$. But on the other hand, we have that $\\alpha_{n+1}=\\alpha_n+\\gamma(r_{n+1}/r_n)$. As $\\gamma'(1)<0$, there is $\\varepsilon>0$ such that, for big enough $n$, we have $|\\alpha_{n+1}-\\alpha_n|>\\varepsilon\\left|1-\\frac{r_{n+1}}{r_n}\\right|$.

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Thus, as $\\sum_{n}|\\alpha_{n+1}-\\alpha_n|<\\infty$, we also have $\\sum_n\\left|1-\\frac{r_{n+1}}{r_n}\\right|<\\infty$, which implies $\\prod_n\\frac{r_{n+1}}{r_n}<\\infty$, that is, the radii converge.

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This proof is closely related to Saul RM's one, but I think it's a bit simpler to see what's going on.

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For $0\\leq \\alpha<\\pi/2$, let $f(\\alpha)$ be the ratio of radii of circles when they are placed in the following configuration:

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One can compute $f(\\alpha)$ explicitly in terms of trigonometric functions, but all we need to know is that it is differentiable at $0$, which hopefully is believable. This in particular implies that for $\\alpha$ small and some constant $C$ (which we can take to be $2f'(\\alpha)$) we have\n$$f(\\alpha)\\leq f(0)+C\\alpha=1+C\\alpha.$$

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Considering now the diagram in the OP, let $r_n$ be the radius of the $n$-th pair of circles, and $\\alpha_n$ to be the angle between the lines connecting the centers of the $n$-th and $n+1$-st pair. By the definition of $f$, this means $r_n=r_{n-1}\\cdot f(\\alpha_{n-1})$, and so we find\n$$r_n=r_1\\cdot\\prod_{i=1}^{n-1}f(\\alpha_i)\\leq r_1\\cdot\\prod_{i=1}^{n-1}(1+C\\alpha_i).$$\nBy a well-known connection between convergence of sums and products (easily shown with help of the inequality $1+x\\leq e^x$) this product converges as $n\\to\\infty$ iff the sum $\\sum_{i=1}^\\infty\\alpha_i$ converges. But in our case, the sum $\\sum_{i=1}^{n-1}\\alpha_i$ represents the angle between the line connecting the centers of the $n$-th pair of circles with the horizontal line, and it's not hard to convince yourself that this angle tends to $\\pi/3$, giving the desired convergence.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325548, "author_name": "Saúl RM", "author_id": 172802, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/172802/sa%c3%bal-rm", "score": 0, "body_html": "I see, that is what you meant by writing things in terms of the radii. I wrote the other way mostly because differentiability at $0$ was not obvious to me. In any case, the more pictures the better", "created_date": "2026-03-03 19:26:54Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 508490, "title": "Proving Kashiwara–Schapira's micro-local cutoff lemma $\\infty$-categorically", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508490/proving-kashiwara-schapiras-micro-local-cutoff-lemma-infty-categorically", "score": 7, "view_count": 271, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "sheaf-theory;micro-local-analysis", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 15:14:22Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "", "comments": [], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508585, "title": "Improperness of regular conditional probabilities", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508585/improperness-of-regular-conditional-probabilities", "score": 1, "view_count": 86, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "pr.probability;measure-theory", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 14:47:17Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "", "comments": [], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 391124, "title": "Are hypergeometric series not taught often at universities nowadays, and if so, why?", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/391124/are-hypergeometric-series-not-taught-often-at-universities-nowadays-and-if-so", "score": 52, "view_count": 8000, "answer_count": 7, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "mathematics-education;hypergeometric-functions", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 14:28:14Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "", "comments": [], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508738, "title": "Reference for colimits in comma categories F ↓ G in which F and G are not assumed cocontinuous", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508738/reference-for-colimits-in-comma-categories-f-%e2%86%93-g-in-which-f-and-g-are-not-assume", "score": 3, "view_count": 57, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "reference-request;ct.category-theory;limits-and-colimits", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 11:08:40Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Given functors $F : \\mathbf A \\to \\mathbf C$ and $G : \\mathbf B \\to \\mathbf C$, it is well known that the comma category $F \\downarrow G$ is cocomplete assuming that $\\mathbf A$ and $\\mathbf B$ are cocomplete and $F$ is cocontinuous, in which case the projection functors are also cocontinuous.

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I would like a reference for the existence of colimits in comma categories in which $F$ is not assumed cocontinuous (in which case the projections will no longer be necessarily cocontinuous).

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In the case where $F$ is an endofunctor and $G$ is the identity, one reference is section 14.1 of Kelly's A unified treatment of transfinite constructions [...] (and Kelly's construction works more generally for $F$ an arbitrary functor) but I would like a reference in which $G$ may not be the identity.

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I'm looking for a source to help me better understand Shelah-Harrington-Makkai's proof of Vaught's conjecture for $\\omega$-stable theories (DOI, link at Shelah's page). An obvious candidate is Makkai's survey paper DOI link, but I felt it was pretty dense (and maybe I need to see a little bit more of motivation behind all the definitions).

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So are there other sources that would enable me to understand the proof and maybe unpack things a little more than Makkai (or use a more modern exposition/viewpoint)? I feel that Baldwin's Fundamentals of Stability Theory could be good, but the more the better.

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Cross-posted from Math.SE.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1183086, "author_name": "James E Hanson", "author_id": 83901, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/83901/james-e-hanson", "score": 3, "body_html": "Hopefully someone will come in with a reference but my impression is that there isn't a lot of good exposition of some of the more technical stuff in stability theory.", "created_date": "2023-10-20 04:01:50Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325563, "author_name": "Jonas Frey", "author_id": 51432, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/51432/jonas-frey", "score": 0, "body_html": "is there a reason why you're crediting only Shelah with the proof and not the three authors of the paper?", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:48:27Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325568, "author_name": "Tesla Daybreak", "author_id": 170461, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/170461/tesla-daybreak", "score": 1, "body_html": "@JonasFrey Good point, edited.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 23:31:26Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508666, "title": "Cutting squares and rectangles into mutually similar but non-congruent rectangles -2", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508666/cutting-squares-and-rectangles-into-mutually-similar-but-non-congruent-rectangle", "score": 3, "view_count": 163, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 508673, "tags": "co.combinatorics;discrete-geometry;tiling", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 08:39:15Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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We try to go a step beyond Cutting squares and rectangles into mutually similar but non-congruent rectangles and record a couple of more questions.

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  1. In the answer to question 2 of above post, Sayan Dutta shows the following dissection of a rectangle into 3 rectangles all mutually non-congruent, mutually similar and also similar to the big rectangle.\n\"enter
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This construction easily generalizes into cutting the same big rectangle into 5 pieces (simply cut the smallest rectangle in the above layout into 3 pieces in exactly the same manner) and 7 pieces and so on... Question: Are there rectangles that can be cut into n mutually similar and non-congruent rectangles that are all similar to the big rectangle where n is some even number? If so, is there any rectangle that can be so cut for all even values with n>2? And for even and odd values of n?

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Further question: Is there any rectangle that can be cut into n mutually self-similar rectangles that are not similar to the big rectangle for any positive integer value of n greater than 2?

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  1. The answer to question 1 of above post points to figure 7 in this paper: https://www.heldermann-verlag.de/jgg/jgg13/j13h2spin.pdf. It shows a square being cut into 3 mutually non-congruent rectangles all similar to one another. What can be said about the square so partitioned into n pieces where n >3?
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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325367, "author_name": "Peter Taylor", "author_id": 46140, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/46140/peter-taylor", "score": 1, "body_html": "Trivially, if a rectangle is dissected into two rectangles which are similar to each other and have side ratio $a$ then the original rectangle has side ratio $a+\\frac{1}{a}$ so no rectangle can be dissected into two rectangles both similar to itself.", "created_date": "2026-03-02 08:22:40Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325369, "author_name": "Nandakumar R", "author_id": 142600, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/142600/nandakumar-r", "score": 0, "body_html": "Yes. n=2 is trivially ruled out. One would want to know of higher even n. Thanks", "created_date": "2026-03-02 08:58:05Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325669, "author_name": "Richard Stanley", "author_id": 2807, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2807/richard-stanley", "score": 0, "body_html": "A related result of Laczkovich and Szekeres, Discrete Comput. Geom. 13 (1995), 569-572, is that that a square can be tiled with finitely many similar copies of the $1\\times u$ rectangle if and only if $u$ is an algebraic numbers all of whose conjugates have positive real part. Thus for instance $u=\\sqrt{2}+\\frac{17}{12}$ is possible, but not $\\sqrt{2}+\\frac{4}{3}$.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 00:17:05Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508673, "question_id": 508666, "score": 6, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "Peter Taylor", "author_id": 46140, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/46140/peter-taylor", "author_reputation": 8178, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-02 10:03:10Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 08:39:15Z", "body_html": "
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As noted in a comment, but for completeness: if we partition into two rectangles which are similar to each other, they cannot also be similar to the original rectangle.

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If we extend the same construction of a slicing floorplan from three to four rooms:

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                   c                    a^2  1\n+-------------------------------------+-----+-+\n|                                     |     | | a\n|                                     +-----+-+\n|                                     |       |\n|                                     |       |\n|                                     |       |\n|                                     |       | b\n|                                     |       |\n|                                     |       |\n|                                     |       |\n+-------------------------------------+-------+\n
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we get the constraints \\begin{eqnarray*}\\frac{b}{a^2+1} &=& a^{\\pm 1} \\\\\n\\frac{c}{a+b} &=& a^{\\pm 1} \\\\\n\\frac{1+a^2+c}{a+b} &=& a^{\\pm 1}\n\\end{eqnarray*}

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Clearly the third ratio is larger than the second so if we take $a > 1$ we have \\begin{eqnarray*}\\frac{c}{a+b} &=& a^{-1} \\\\\n\\frac{1+a^2+c}{a+b} &=& a\n\\end{eqnarray*} and we eliminate $c$ to get \\begin{eqnarray*}c &=& 1 + a^{-1}b \\\\\n2a+b &=& a^2b\n\\end{eqnarray*}

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Taking the case $\\frac{b}{a^2+1} = a^{-1}$ gives solution $a = \\sqrt{1 + \\sqrt{2}}$, and taking the case $\\frac{b}{a^2+1} = a$ gives solution $a = \\sqrt[4]{3}$.

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If we instead take $a < 1$ then we get the reciprocals $a = \\sqrt[4]{\\frac13}$ or $a = \\sqrt{\\sqrt{2}-1}$.

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A similar recursive construction to the one described in the question extends this to dissections into $4 + 3k$ parts.

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A similar process to this answer but with fewer constraints on the layouts tested allows us to enumerate ratios which have suitable dissections. Many layouts gave parameterised families of solutions; I believe that these correspond to degenerate cases where one or more row or column dimension is zero, but I haven't tested and proven this systematically. On the assumption that it is the case, the following lists of possible ratios are exhaustive for dissection size ($n$) up to six:

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\\begin{array}{ccc}n & \\textrm{Approx. ratio} & \\textrm{minpoly} \\\\\n3 & 1.272019649514069 & x^4 - x^2 - 1 \\\\\n\\hline\n4 & 1.316074012952493 & x^4 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.553773974030038 & x^4 - 2x^2 - 1 \\\\\n\\hline\n5 & 1.116682409513765 & x^6 + x^4 - 2x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.217043263032180 & x^6 + x^4 - 3x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.272019649514069 & x^4 - x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.303697874614866 & x^6 + x^4 - 4x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.370906722418348 & x^6 - 3x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.517489913551980 & x^4 - x^2 - 3 \\\\\n\\hline\n6 & 1.099010977042511 & x^4 + x^2 - \\tfrac83 \\\\\n & 1.100083692217721 & x^6 + 4x^4 - 3x^2 - 4 \\\\\n & 1.123299713015174 & x^6 + 3x^4 - 3x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.124171968973597 & x^4 - x^2 - \\tfrac13 \\\\\n & 1.141391973746090 & x^4 + x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.145905333901386 & x^6 + \\tfrac12x^4 - 2x^2 - \\tfrac12 \\\\\n & 1.177890439184729 & x^4 - \\tfrac23x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.179568726539875 & x^6 + 2x^4 - 4x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.217043263032180 & x^6 + x^4 - 3x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.224744871391589 & x^2 - \\tfrac32 \\\\\n & 1.277886208492545 & x^4 - \\tfrac83 \\\\\n & 1.292154727825668 & x^6 + 3x^4 - 6x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.307392580458113 & x^6 + 2x^4 - 4x^2 - 4 \\\\\n & 1.317874861923462 & x^6 - \\tfrac23x^4 - \\tfrac53x^2 - \\tfrac13 \\\\\n & 1.331685928306913 & x^6 + 2x^4 - 5x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.370906722418348 & x^6 - 3x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.382833749401712 & x^6 + x^4 - 4x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.441583361214096 & x^6 - x^4 - 2x^2 - \\tfrac12 \\\\\n & 1.444344210239199 & x^6 + x^4 - 5x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.485875205951003 & x^4 - x^2 - \\tfrac83 \\\\\n & 1.489154360470618 & x^6 + 2x^4 - 8x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.526452992911339 & x^6 - 5x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.578247007081285 & x^6 - 5x^2 - 3 \\\\\n & 1.606592303630324 & x^4 - 2x^2 - \\tfrac32 \\\\\n & 1.628217862860243 & x^6 - x^4 - 4x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.692985015441372 & x^6 - x^4 - 5x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.922600525160414 & x^6 - 2x^4 - 6x^2 - 1 \\\\\n & 1.971294228756678 & x^4 - \\tfrac72x^2 - \\tfrac32 \\\\\n & 2.012192172612324 & x^6 - 3x^4 - 4x^2 - 1 \\end{array}

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Note that none of the ratios for $n=4$ coincide with the ratios for $n=5$ or $n=6$. However, there are two non-trivial coincidences: ratio $\\sim 1.217043263032180$ with minpoly $x^6 + x^4 - 3x^2 - 1$ and ratio $\\sim 1.370906722418348$ with minpoly $x^6 - 3x^2 - 1$ give partitions into $5$ or $6$ similar rectangles, whence by recursive construction they cover $1+4k+5m$, and in particular they cover every integer in $\\mathbb{N} \\setminus \\{ 0, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 12 \\}$.

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There are $181$ ratios for partitions into $7$ noncongruent similar rectangles (uploaded elsewhere because that's too long for this post). The only non-trivial coincidences are with partitions into $6$, and these leave more gaps than the $5,6$ coincidences. Fewer gaps would be possible if there's a partition into $8$ or $10$ with ratio $\\sqrt{\\frac{1 + \\sqrt 5}2}$ (i.e. the same ratio as $n=3$); otherwise ties for fewest gaps are possible with $3,12$ or $4,8$. However, the search for $n=7$ took 29 hours so I'm not going to run a search for $n=8$ unless I can optimise it a lot.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325404, "author_name": "Nandakumar R", "author_id": 142600, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/142600/nandakumar-r", "score": 0, "body_html": "Could you clarify if there is any even number n for which there is no rectangle that can be cut into n self-similar and mutually non congruent rectangles?", "created_date": "2026-03-02 15:26:03Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325706, "author_name": "Nandakumar R", "author_id": 142600, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/142600/nandakumar-r", "score": 0, "body_html": "I suspect there is no rectangle that allows partition into n rectangles that are all smililar to itself and mutually non-congruent for ALL even n.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 09:19:53Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325707, "author_name": "Nandakumar R", "author_id": 142600, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/142600/nandakumar-r", "score": 0, "body_html": "thanks. marking question as answered although question 2 remains.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 09:20:40Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 415209, "title": "Exposition of Grothendieck's mathematics", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/415209/exposition-of-grothendiecks-mathematics", "score": 40, "view_count": 7000, "answer_count": 13, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "ag.algebraic-geometry;soft-question;textbook-recommendation;books;exposition", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 08:04:30Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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As Wikipedia says:

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In Grothendieck's retrospective Récoltes et Semailles, he identified twelve of his contributions which he believed qualified as \"great ideas\". In chronological order, they are:

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  5. Yoga of the Grothendieck–Riemann–Roch theorem (K-theory, relation with intersection theory).
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  7. Schemes.
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  9. Topoi.
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  11. Étale cohomology and l-adic cohomology.
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  13. Motives and the motivic Galois group (Grothendieck ⊗-categories).
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  15. Crystals and crystalline cohomology, yoga of \"de Rham coefficients\", \"Hodge coefficients\", ...
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  17. \"Topological algebra\": ∞-stacks, derivators; cohomological formalism of topoi as inspiration for a new homotopical algebra.
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  19. Tame topology.
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  21. Yoga of anabelian algebraic geometry, Galois–Teichmüller theory.
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What are some modern, concise expository texts on these topics that students can use to learn the great ideas of Grothendieck? EGA, SGA, Les Dérivateurs, La Longue Marche, and so on don't count, because they are French, overwhelming, and maybe a bit outdated (I'm not sure) - anyway, it's not realistic for a student to go through them in their free time in addition to the courses they take for their degree. If you want to give a textbook, make sure it's as short as possible.

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Please only one topic with expository text per answer.

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Let me start by giving two examples of the kind of answers I am expecting:

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1065064, "author_name": "Aravindh Krishnamoorthy", "author_id": 148448, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/148448/aravindh-krishnamoorthy", "score": 2, "body_html": "May I suggest to include the two examples into (separate) answers just to know (as someone else suggested) the relative interests of MathOverflow audience... thanks!", "created_date": "2022-02-03 02:04:27Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065077, "author_name": "Kapil", "author_id": 124862, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/124862/kapil", "score": 6, "body_html": "Apocryphally Gauss said, \"There is no royal road to mathematics.\" There is also realistically no way to learn all that someone has to say by reading other people's expositions! Finally, a lot of good mathematics is written in French. Learn to read it. Seriously! Do not be put off by the length. After some time you learn to read faster.", "created_date": "2022-02-03 03:20:13Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065159, "author_name": "user476368", "author_id": 476368, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/476368/user476368", "score": 7, "body_html": "@Kapil I only agree if you give this piece of advice to somehow who is really sure he wants to do research in algebraic geometry. Then the EGA's and SGA's may be better then modern and concise expositions.", "created_date": "2022-02-03 13:19:04Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065178, "author_name": "Kimball", "author_id": 6518, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/6518/kimball", "score": 2, "body_html": "because they are French - this does contradict your modern, concise, for students conditions. If you want to specify in English, just specify that. Otherwise, is Italian or Japanese okay?", "created_date": "2022-02-03 14:07:14Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065259, "author_name": "user476368", "author_id": 476368, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/476368/user476368", "score": 5, "body_html": "@AlexanderWoo Everybody decides for themselves what is a waste of time for them. If someone enjoys learning algebraic geometry without doing research in it, why not.", "created_date": "2022-02-03 21:58:35Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 415212, "question_id": 415209, "score": 13, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Francesco Polizzi", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 68975, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-02-02 14:41:05Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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A good roadmap for FGA (topic 4, with glimpses on topic 6) is

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Fantechi, Barbara; Göttsche, Lothar; Illusie, Luc; Kleiman, Steven L.; Nitsure, Nitin; Vistoli, Angelo, Fundamental algebraic geometry: Grothendieck’s FGA explained, Mathematical Surveys and Monographs 123. Providence, RI: American Mathematical Society (AMS) (ISBN 0-8218-3541-6/hbk). x, 339 p. (2005). ZBL1085.14001.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1064903, "author_name": "user476368", "author_id": 476368, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/476368/user476368", "score": 1, "body_html": "Thanks! Please give one of the topics 1-12 this gets associated to.", "created_date": "2022-02-02 14:34:50Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 415263, "question_id": 415209, "score": 12, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 91241, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2022-02-03 00:01:26Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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For topic 4 (schemes), I'd suggest Schemes: The Language of Algebraic Geometry, by Eisenbud and Harris. This book is out of print, and is generally regarded as having been \"superseded\" by its successor, The Geometry of Schemes. But for your purposes, I think the earlier book is actually better, since it's only 160 pages, and if you just want the main ideas, the first two chapters should suffice. The authors specifically aimed at making the topic accessible to students encountering schemes for the first time.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1065057, "author_name": "Jason Starr", "author_id": 13265, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/13265/jason-starr", "score": 3, "body_html": "I believe the survey in Mumford's \"Lectures on curves in an algebraic surface\" is even shorter (and, of course, it is written by Mumford).", "created_date": "2022-02-03 00:50:17Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065058, "author_name": "Paul Siegel", "author_id": 4362, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4362/paul-siegel", "score": 0, "body_html": "I've always felt a bit self-conscious about schemes, because in spite of having taken a course or two back in the day I don't feel like I could direct a short infomercial on why schemes are important - this is in contrast to, say, manifolds or Hilbert spaces, where I am more confident I could put together a good sales pitch. Would Eisenbud-Harris' or Mumford's books help with this?", "created_date": "2022-02-03 00:56:49Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065074, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 2, "body_html": "@PaulSiegel I do think that Eisenbud-Harris (Chapter 2 especially) would help you. But for an elevator pitch, maybe the short section on schemes by Danilov in Algebraic Curves, Algebraic Manifolds and Schemes is even more direct. See also this math.SE question.", "created_date": "2022-02-03 02:58:17Z" }, { "comment_id": 1065080, "author_name": "Jason Starr", "author_id": 13265, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/13265/jason-starr", "score": 1, "body_html": "Mumford’s book is precisely about presenting Grothendieck’s proof, via schemes, of the “Completeness Theorem” that led to such bitter fight between Severi and Enriques.", "created_date": "2022-02-03 03:33:29Z" }, { "comment_id": 1299673, "author_name": "Vincent Tran", "author_id": 537043, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/537043/vincent-tran", "score": 0, "body_html": "Also I think a simple elevator pitch can be seen here: math.stackexchange.com/a/2312107/1360259 Basically, schemes allow for \"correct\" categorical things like kernels", "created_date": "2025-08-07 16:02:01Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 415300, "question_id": 415209, "score": 12, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Donu Arapura", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 36407, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2022-02-03 13:04:31Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let me suggest having looking at Grothendieck's own article The cohomology theory of abstract algebraic varieties in the proceedings of the 1958 ICM. This is both short (15 pages) and in English. Although written quite early on, it explains the motivations and intuitions for many of the developments that lay in the future in a lucid way. For instance, he compares and contrast his notion of scheme (referred to here as a pre-schema) with the more classical notions. He hints at \"a definition of the Weil cohomology (involving both 'spatial' and Galois cohomology)...\", which would eventually become étale cohomology.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1085232, "author_name": "roy smith", "author_id": 9449, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/9449/roy-smith", "score": 0, "body_html": "this is a wonderful suggestion. In addition, although I may be the only person with a copy, Dieudonne's 1962 Maryland notes, formerly available from Harvard math dept, are a summary of EGA at about 105 pages. I myself however strongly recommend reading at least selected pages of the longer versions, EGA, SGA, etc as absolutely unmatched treatments written by the original creators of these ideas. You will be very glad of every word you read by Grothendieck, or Mumford.", "created_date": "2022-05-12 02:37:09Z" }, { "comment_id": 1299671, "author_name": "Vincent Tran", "author_id": 537043, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/537043/vincent-tran", "score": 0, "body_html": "@roysmith That sounds interesting. Would you mind sending a copy of Dieudonne's notes my way?", "created_date": "2025-08-07 15:52:59Z" }, { "comment_id": 1299894, "author_name": "roy smith", "author_id": 9449, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/9449/roy-smith", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Vincent Tran: I only have a physical copy. There is a copy for sale at abebooks: search on books titled Algebraic Geometry, by Jean Dieudonne.", "created_date": "2025-08-09 00:08:02Z" }, { "comment_id": 1299895, "author_name": "roy smith", "author_id": 9449, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/9449/roy-smith", "score": 0, "body_html": "Or contact Grey Matter books, HADLEY, MASS.", "created_date": "2025-08-09 00:13:34Z" }, { "comment_id": 1300269, "author_name": "Vincent Tran", "author_id": 537043, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/537043/vincent-tran", "score": 0, "body_html": "Ah I see, thank you!", "created_date": "2025-08-11 18:10:47Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 415224, "question_id": 415209, "score": 8, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Balazs", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 3557, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2022-02-02 16:08:09Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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For topic 3, I would say Hartshorne's Appendix A is pretty good as a VERY brief introduction. After that, as also referred to there, I would recommend Manin's Lectures on the K-functor in algebraic geometry.

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Topic 10 got developed further via the concept of o-minimality. See e.g. \"Tame topology and o-minimal structures\" by\nLou van den Dries, 1998 CUP, http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511525919

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A shorter text is by Michel Coste: http://perso.univ-rennes1.fr/michel.coste/polyens/OMIN.pdf

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See also nLab article on tame topology: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/tame+topology

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For topic 5, try Leinster's nice expository article https://arxiv.org/abs/1012.5647.

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For topic 7, Milne's article https://www.jmilne.org/math/xnotes/MOT.pdf could be useful.

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For topic 6, there are Milne's notes: https://www.jmilne.org/math/CourseNotes/LEC.pdf

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In the front matter Milne writes:

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These are the notes for a course taught at the University of Michigan in 1989 and 1998.\nIn comparison with my book, the emphasis is on heuristic arguments rather than formal\nproofs and on varieties rather than schemes.

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For learning about topoi, I'd strongly recommend Goldblatt's Topoi: The Categorical Analysis of Logic, which goes over the subject and a few interesting applications in a very approachable and pleasant manner. It's not particularly concise at 556 pages, though you needn't read the entire text to get a solid foundational concept of topoi.

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For 5. Topoi. There is a very readable notice of the AMS: What is... a topos?, Luc Illusie, and with M Raynaud about Schemes at Grothendieck and Algebraic Geometry. In fact, the webpage of Professor L. Illusie contains very valuable material regarding the question.

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You can read (online) about various of the listed topics in Lectures grothendieckiennes Edited by Frédéric Jaëck

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And find a lot of original material at Thèmes pour une Harmonie!

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On topic 1, I'd like to recommend Ray Ryan's Introduction to tensor products of Banach spaces, Springer 2002. Zbl 1090.46001

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Before learning about infinity stacks, one ought to learn about stacks. For this, look at section 4.1.1 of Vistoli's notes, Notes on Grothendieck topologies, fibred categories and descent theory, which is an exposition of one concrete case. This section is around a page and a half. He states:

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that the fact we can glue continuous maps and topological spaces says $(Cont)$ is a stack over $Top$.

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This in fact a generalisation of the clutching construction of bundles. And you can learn about bundles in the very readable first chapter of Grothendiecks Kansas notes on fibre bundles.

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There is also an expository note by Barbara Fantechi, Stacks for Everybody.

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For topic 1, the book by Diestel, Fourie, Swart: https://books.google.de/books?id=VBg5cGSngRoC&printsec=copyright&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false provides a good introduction.

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The same question was asked on Mathematics Stack exchange but has not received any response or comments.

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Let $M$ be a smooth $n$-dimensional manifold and $X$ be a smooth vector field on it. Consider a chart $(U, x^1, \\ldots, x^n)$ and another set of coordinates $(y^1,\\ldots,y^n)$ on the same chart (or on an open subset of $U$ in which case we will just shrink $U$). Since $X$ is smooth, there exists smooth functions $a^i : U \\to \\mathbb{R}$ and $b^i: U \\to \\mathbb{R}$, with $i \\in \\{1, \\ldots, n\\}$, such that, for every $p \\in U$:

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\\begin{equation*}\nX_p = \\sum_{i=1}^n a^i(p) \\frac{\\partial }{\\partial x^i} \\mid_{p} = \\sum_{i=1}^n b^i(p) \\frac{\\partial }{\\partial y^i} \\mid_{p}.\n\\end{equation*}

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Apply to both sides the function $x^i$'s to get, for all $p \\in U$:

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\\begin{equation*}\n\\begin{bmatrix}\n a^1(p) \\\\\n \\vdots \\\\\n a^n(p) \n\\end{bmatrix} = \n\\begin{bmatrix}\n \\frac{\\partial x^1}{\\partial y^1} & \\cdots & \\frac{\\partial x^1}{\\partial y^n}\\\\\n \\vdots & \\ddots & \\vdots \\\\\n \\frac{\\partial x^n}{\\partial y^1} & \\cdots & \\frac{\\partial x^n}{\\partial y^n} \n\\end{bmatrix}_p\n\\begin{bmatrix}\n b^1(p) \\\\\n \\vdots \\\\\n b^n(p) \n\\end{bmatrix}.\n\\end{equation*}

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Usually, one is given $(x^1, \\ldots, x^n)$, $(y^1, \\ldots, y^n)$, and $a^1, \\ldots, a^n$.\nOne is then required to compute $b^1, \\ldots, b^n$ in order to represent the vector field $X$ in the other set of coordinates.

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My question is about the reverse. Suppose that we know $(x^1, \\ldots, x^n)$ and $a^1, \\ldots, a^n$. With a specific set of smooth functions $b^1, \\ldots, b^n$ I chose, can we always guarantee the existence of coordinates $(y^1, \\ldots, y^n)$ such that my vector field can be represented in the way I specified?

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This is definitely not always doable. For example, if $X$ is the zero vector field and $b^i$'s are nonzero, then it is clearly impossible. One must impose some conditions on $(x^1, \\ldots, x^n)$ or on $a^1, \\ldots, a^n$. After searching, I found a theorem regarding the representation of a vector field around a regular point: Assume $p \\in M$ is such that $X_p \\neq 0$, the theorem says that we can always find a chart $(U, y^1, \\ldots, y^n)$ about $p$ such that $X_q = \\frac{\\partial}{\\partial y_1} \\mid_q$ for all $q \\in U$. In our language, this means $b^1 \\equiv 1$, $b^i \\equiv 0$ for $i \\neq 1$, and $a^i$'s are not always $0$. So this should be a solid starting point of a more general result.

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So let me rephrase the question :

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  1. Suppose that we are in a neighborhood $(U, x^1, \\ldots, x^n)$ of a regular point $p$, $a^1 \\equiv 1$, $a^i \\equiv 0$ if $i \\neq 1$. Is it true that for every set of $n$ smooth functions $b^i:U \\to \\mathbb{R}$, not all zero, we can always find a possibly smaller neighborhood of $p$ along with local coordinates $(y^1, \\ldots, y^n)$, representing our vector field using functions $b^i$?
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  3. What about other points? If $X$\nis zero in a neighborhood, then the only possible choice is $b^i≡0$.\nConsider a point $p$ such that $X_p=0$ but $X$ is not zero in any neighborhood of $p$. What are conditions on $(x_1, \\ldots,x_n)$\nor on $a_1, \\ldots,a_n$ such that $X$ can be represented by any $b_i$'s in a neighborhood of $p$?
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As my own attempt, it seems question 1 has to do with whether one can show the existence of solutions in a set of partial differential equation. But I am not familiar with the relevant theory. As for question 2, I have no clue on how to start.

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For question 2., even for analytic (or polynomial) vector fields no universal family of models is known. And even if such a family where known, nothing would assert that it is computable given the data you provide.

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In most cases your vector field is linearizable by an analytic change of coordinates (e.g. by Poincaré theorem), meaning that your $a_i$ are linear functions. But as soon as (quasi-)resonances arise between eigenvalues of the linearized vector field this is no longer the case. It is known that the set of different analytic conjugacy classes (up to local change of variables) is uncountable (for instance, in the case of resonances in dimension 2, it is in natural bijection with functional spaces like the space of germs of an analytic function $\\mathbb{R}\\{h\\}$, see the work of Martinet and Ramis).

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In dimension 2, there are a few results that allow to \"desingularize\" à la Hironaka by successive ponctual blowups (see Seidenberg's algortihm), but this is not guaranteed to be explicit. Even then, you end up with local models, called \"reduced\" vector fields (roughly speaking, the linear part is non-nilpotent), for which no simple local form exist in general. In specific cases there does exist universal local analytic models (look for \"analytic normal forms\" in planar vector fields). Moreover, I remember that two decades ago an alogrithm was devised by Dumortier and al. to visualize the flow of polynomial vector fields in $\\mathbb{R}^2$, based on Seidenberg's reduction, but I don't recollect more than that.

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In greater dimension the theory is not done, save for specific cases, and even then the results are much more complex than in the planar setting. And that is only for isolated singularities. To the best of my knowledge not much is known in the vicinity of a singular point belonging to a non-discrete manifold of singularities.

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If you allow less regularity for your local charts (e.g. smooth instead of analytic), then there exist partial results of conjugacy between $X$ and one of its finite jet in dimension 2 (Dumortier, Roussarie, Rousseau, Takens etc.), but some of the results only work for $C^k$ local charts with $k<\\infty$. Not sure how these generalize in higher dimension. It is known that some $X$ are not smoothly conjugate to one of their finite jets.

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As a conclusion, I'd say that what you ask is beyond our present knowledge as soon as singularities are involved.

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For question 1, yes. Let’s turn the notation around. Suppose that $X$ is $\\frac{\\partial}{\\partial y^1}$ for some coordinate system $y^1,\\dots ,y^n$, and let $a^1,\\dots ,a^n$ be any functions (of $y$), not all $0$. For each $i$ make a function $x^i$ such that $\\frac{\\partial x^i}{\\partial y^1}=a^i$. If we can arrange for the $x^i$ to be a coordinate system, then in $x$ coordinates $X$ will be $\\sum_i a^i\\frac{\\partial}{\\partial x^i}$. To do so, we try to alter $x^i$ without changing $\\frac{\\partial x^i}{\\partial x^1}$, in such a way that the Jacobian matrix $\\frac{\\partial x^i}{\\partial y^j}$ at the origin becomes invertible. We can do this by adding a suitable linear function of $L(y^2,\\dots ,y^n)$ to each $x^i$.

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Inspired by Question 508663, I discovered the following identity

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$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty\\frac{H_{2k}-H_{k}}{k^2\\binom{2k}k}=2 \\zeta(3)-\\frac{\\pi \\sqrt{3}\\, \\Psi^{\\left(1\\right)}\\! \\left(\\frac{1}{3}\\right)}{24}+\\frac{\\pi \\sqrt{3}\\, \\Psi^{\\left(1\\right)}\\! \\left(\\frac{5}{6}\\right)}{72}\\tag{1},$$\nwhere $H_n$ denotes the harmonic numbers and $\\Psi^{(n)}(x)$ is the $n$th polygamma function.

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My questions:

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  1. Is the series (1) known?
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  3. How can it be proven?
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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325547, "author_name": "Steven Clark", "author_id": 110710, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/110710/steven-clark", "score": 0, "body_html": "Mathematica gives the result $$\\sum _{k=1}^{\\infty } \\frac{H_{2 k}-H_k}{k^2 \\binom{2 k}{k}}=2 \\zeta (3)-\\frac{2 i \\pi ^3}{81}+\\frac{1}{216} \\pi \\left(2 (-1)^{5/6} \\psi ^{(1)}\\left(\\frac{1}{6}\\right)+\\left(\\sqrt{3}+i\\right) \\psi ^{(1)}\\left(\\frac{5}{6}\\right)+\\left(7 \\sqrt{3}+i\\right) \\psi ^{(1)}\\left(\\frac{2}{3}\\right)+\\left(-7 \\sqrt{3}+i\\right) \\psi ^{(1)}\\left(\\frac{1}{3}\\right)\\right)$$ which seems to evaluate consistent with your formula (1) numerically.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 19:26:28Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325549, "author_name": "Henri Cohen", "author_id": 81776, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/81776/henri-cohen", "score": 0, "body_html": "The OP's formula checks out to hundreds of decimal places. It's probably a simple consequence of Mathematica's result (if correct) and standard properties of $\\psi'$. In fact the $(-1)^{5/6}$ is a giveaway that Mma did not simplify since the imaginary part should vanish.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 19:28:06Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325560, "author_name": "Gerry Myerson", "author_id": 3684, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3684/gerry-myerson", "score": 5, "body_html": "How does one discover an identity like (1)?", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:37:26Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325561, "author_name": "P. Grabowski", "author_id": 127260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/127260/p-grabowski", "score": 1, "body_html": "I saw the previous post. I see the formula here. I am flabbergasted. How do you \"I discovered the following identity\" and you do not know how to prove it? Doesn't one come up with such things by being immersed in doing such things? However, I would then expect some discussion of, like, \"I did this and that; you know the standard stuff,\" or so. And then a person answering credits an LLM. I don't understand this dynamic... :(", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:38:13Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325569, "author_name": "Mark Wildon", "author_id": 7709, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/7709/mark-wildon", "score": 1, "body_html": "I can understand the dislike for LLMs: wading through their walls of text is frustrating, and often unrewarding. But they're going to become part of the mathematicians's toolkit, and I'd rather make the effort now to understand their strengths and limitations. I think the answer below is interesting for its mixture of routine steps (that are helped by an encyclopaedic grasp of the literature) and what may seem like genuine flashes of intuition, for example the factorization of $1 + 2 \\sin \\theta$ using $\\pi/12$ and $5\\pi/12$.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 23:37:08Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508731, "question_id": 508718, "score": 2, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "Zhi-Wei Sun", "author_id": 124654, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/124654/zhi-wei-sun", "author_reputation": 18678, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-04 01:44:15Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 06:33:42Z", "body_html": "
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The formula is not new. It follows from (3.2) and (3.3) in Conjecture 3.1 of this 2015 paper of mine. The conjecture has been confirmed by several authors including J. Ablinger, Wenchang Chu, and Kam Cheong Au. One may search their papers via MathSciNet or arXiv. For example,\nJakob Ablinger's related paper appreared as a preprint in arXiv\n(see (73) and (62) of this paper) and its published form can be found here.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325579, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "Can you give a link to at least one paper that proves your Conjecture 3.1?", "created_date": "2026-03-04 03:37:10Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325582, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "Here's what zbMath knows about papers citing yours zbmath.org/?q=rf%3A6613107. It's not clear without sitting down and reading a bunch of them which one should look at.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 04:34:03Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325587, "author_name": "Zhi-Wei Sun", "author_id": 124654, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/124654/zhi-wei-sun", "score": 1, "body_html": "I have added links to Ablinger's paper.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 06:35:09Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325615, "author_name": "Deyi Chen", "author_id": 287674, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/287674/deyi-chen", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you to Professor Sun for the articles provided; your conjectures and the articles are both very interesting and inspiring!", "created_date": "2026-03-04 12:47:11Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508725, "question_id": 508718, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Mark Wildon", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/7709", "author_reputation": 12112, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:23:14Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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$\\newcommand{\\mfrac}[2]{{\\textstyle\\frac{#1}{#2}}}$\nThis is an edited version of an answer supplied to me by ChatGPT 5.2 'Extended Pro'. I have checked\nevery line and believe it is correct.\nLet $S$ be the sum and let\n$$\nF(z)=\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty \\frac{z^k}{k^2\\binom{2k}{k}} $$\nfor $0 \\le z \\le 1$. From the standard Taylor series\n$$\\arcsin^2 x = \\frac{1}{2} \\sum_{k=1}^\\infty \\frac{1}{k^2 \\binom{2k}{k}} (2x)^{2k},$$\nsee for instance this MathStackexchange answer (although ChatGPT was keen to share its own proof with me), we have $F(z)=2\\arcsin^2\\bigl(\\frac{\\sqrt z}{2}\\bigr)$.\nUsing the integral formula for the Harmonic numbers we have\n$$ H_{2k}-H_k\n= \\int_0^1 \\frac{x^k-x^{2k}}{1-x}\\,\\mathrm{d}x $$\nand so\n$$ S =\\int_0^1 \\frac{F(x)-F(x^2)}{1-x}\\,\\mathrm{d}x. $$\nNow\n$F(x)-F(x^2)=\\int_{x^2}^x F'(t)\\,\\mathrm{d}t $\nso we have, swapping the order of integration using\n$x^2 \\le t \\le x \\iff t \\le x \\le \\sqrt{t}$ to get the second line,\n$$ \\begin{aligned} S &= \\int_0^1 \\int_{x^2}^x F'(t)\\, \\mathrm{d}t\\, \\frac{\\mathrm{d}x}{1-x} \\\\ &=\n\\int_0^1 F'(t)\\bigl(\\int_t^{\\sqrt t}\\frac{dx}{1-x}\\bigr)\\mathrm{d}t \\\\ &=\n\\int_0^1 F'(t)\\log \\bigl(\\frac{1-t}{1-\\sqrt t}\\bigr)dt \\\\ \n&= \\int_0^1 F'(t)\\log(1+\\sqrt t)\\,\\mathrm{d}t \\\\\n&= \\int_0^1 F'(u^2) \\log (1+u)\\, 2u\\, \\mathrm{d}u \\\\\n&= \\int_0^{\\pi/6} F'(4\\sin^2\\theta) \\log(1 + 2\\sin \\theta) 8\\sin\\theta \\cos \\theta \\,\\mathrm{d}\\theta \\\\\n&= \\int_0^{\\pi/6} \\frac{\\theta}{\\sin 2 \\theta} \\log (1 + 2 \\sin \\theta) 4 \\sin 2\\theta \\,\\mathrm{d}\\theta \\\\ \n&= 4\\int_0^{\\pi/6} \\theta \\log (1 + 2 \\sin \\theta) \\,\\mathrm{d}\\theta.\n \\end{aligned}$$\nThis used the substitution $u^2 = t$, then $u = 2\\sin \\theta$ and\nthen in the penultimate step\n$$ F'(z) = \\frac{\\arcsin \\frac{\\sqrt{z}}{2} }{\\sqrt{1-z/4} \\sqrt{z}} $$\nto get $F'(4\\sin^2 \\theta) = \\frac{\\theta}{\\sin 2\\theta}$.\nNow factor\n$$\n1+2\\sin\\theta =\n4\\sin\\!\\left(\\mfrac{\\theta}{2}+\\mfrac{\\pi}{12}\\right)\n \\sin\\!\\left(\\mfrac{\\theta}{2}+\\mfrac{5\\pi}{12}\\right) $$\nto get\n$$\n\\log(1+2\\sin\\theta) =\n\\log \\Bigr(2\\sin\\bigl(\\mfrac{\\theta}{2}+\\mfrac{\\pi}{12}\\bigr)\\Bigr) +\n\\log \\Bigr(2\\sin\\bigl(\\mfrac{\\theta}{2}+\\mfrac{5\\pi}{12}\\bigr)\\Bigr). $$

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The standard Fourier series\n$$\n\\log(2\\sin \\phi) =-\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{\\cos(2n\\phi )}{n}\n$$\nis uniformly convergent for $\\frac{\\theta}{2} + \\frac{\\pi}{12}$\nand $\\frac{\\theta}{2} + \\frac{5\\pi}{12}$ for $\\theta \\in [0, \\frac{\\pi}{6}]$.\nSubstituting for each summand in the right-hand side for $\\log (1 + 2 \\sin \\theta)$ above we get\n$$\n\\log(1+2\\sin\\theta)\n=\n-\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty\n\\frac{\\cos\\bigl(n(\\theta+\\frac{\\pi}{6})\\bigr)+\\cos\\bigl((\\theta+\\frac{5\\pi}{6})n\\bigr)}{n}.\n$$\nUsing\n$\n\\cos\\bigl( n (\\theta+\\frac{\\pi}{6}) \\bigr) + \\cos\\bigl(n(\\theta+\\frac{5\\pi}{6})\\bigr)\n= 2\\cos\\bigl(\\frac{\\pi}{3}n\\bigr)\\cos (\\theta+\\frac{\\pi}{2})n\n$\nwe obtain\n$$\nS\n=\n-8\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{\\cos(\\frac{\\pi}{3}n)}{n}\n\\int_0^{\\pi/6}\\theta\\cos \\bigl( n (\\theta+\\frac{\\pi}{2}) \\bigr) \\,\\mathrm{d}\\theta.\n$$\nA direct integration, which I verified in Mathematica, gives\n$$\n\\int_0^{\\pi/6}\\theta\\cos\\bigl (n (\\theta+\\mfrac{\\pi}{2}) \\bigr) \\,\\mathrm{d}\\theta\n=\n\\frac{\\pi}{6n}\\sin\\!\\left(\\frac{2n\\pi}{3}\\right)\n+\n\\frac{\\cos(\\frac{2\\pi}{3} n)-\\cos( \\frac{\\pi}{2}n ) }{n^2}.\n$$\nTherefore using the uniform convergence mentioned above,\n$$\nS = -\\frac{8\\pi}{6}\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{\\cos(\\frac{\\pi}{3}n)\\sin(\\frac{2\\pi}{3} n)}{n^2} -8\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{a_n}{n^3},\n$$\nwhere\n$$ a_n = \\cos \\bigl( \\mfrac{n\\pi}{3} \\bigr) \\Bigl( \n\\cos\\bigl(\\mfrac{2n\\pi}{3}\\bigr)-\\cos\\bigl(\\mfrac{n\\pi}{2}\\bigr) \\Bigr). $$\nSince\n$ \\cos\\bigl(\\mfrac{n\\pi}{3}\\bigr)\\sin \\bigl(\\mfrac{2n\\pi}{3}\\bigr)\n= \\frac{1}{2}\\sin\\bigl( \\mfrac{n\\pi}{3}\\bigr) $\nthis becomes\n$$ S =\n-\\frac{2\\pi}{3}\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{\\sin( \\frac{\\pi}{3} n)}{n^2}\n-8\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{a_n}{n^3}.\n$$

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Now the sequence $(a_n)$ is periodic with period $12$.\nThe values $a_0,\\ldots, a_{11}$ are\n$0,-\\frac{1}{4},-\\frac{1}{4},-1, \\frac{3}{4}, -\\frac{1}{4}, 2, -\\frac{1}{4}, \\frac{3}{4}, -1, -\\frac{1}{4},\n-\\frac{1}{4}$. (Again I checked this with Mathematica.)\nHence\n$$\na_n=\n-\\frac{1}{4}-\\frac{3}{4} [3 \\mid n] + \n[ 4 \\mid n] + 3 [6 \\mid n] - 3 [12 \\mid n]\n$$\nin Iverson bracket notation.\nIt follows that\n$$\n\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{a_n}{n^3} =\n\\Bigl( -\\frac{1}{4} -\\frac{3}{4\\cdot 3^3} +\\frac{1}{4^3} +\\frac{3}{6^3} -\\frac{3}{12^3}\n\\Bigr)\\zeta(3)\n= -\\frac{1}{4}\\zeta(3).\n$$\nWe have shown that\n$$ S = 2\\zeta(3)-\\frac{2\\pi}{3}\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{\\sin(\\frac{\\pi}{3} n)}{n^2}. \\qquad(\\star) $$\nIt remains to evaluate\n$ C=\\sum_{n=1}^\\infty \\frac{\\sin(\\frac{\\pi}{3}n)}{n^2}$.\nUsing the values of $\\sin \\frac{\\pi}{3}n$, which have period $6$, we get\n$$\nC = \\frac{\\sqrt{3}}{2}\\sum_{m=0}^\\infty\n\\bigl( \\frac{1}{(6m+1)^2} +\\frac{1}{(6m+2)^2} -\\frac{1}{(6m+4)^2} -\\frac{1}{(6m+5)^2} \\bigr). $$\nBy one definition of the trigamma function $\\psi_1$ we have\n$\\psi_1(z)=\\sum_{m=0}^\\infty \\frac1{(m+z)^2}$,\nso we may rewrite the previous equation for $C$ as\n$$\nC = \\frac{\\sqrt{3}}{72}\n\\Bigl( \\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{1}{6} \\bigr) + \\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) - \\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{2}{3} \\bigr) \n-\\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) \\Bigr) $$\nThe trigamma duplication formula states that\n$$\n\\psi_1(z)+\\psi_1\\!\\left(z+ \\mfrac{1}{2} \\right)=4\\psi_1(2z). $$\nApply this with $z=\\mfrac{1}{6}$ and $z = \\mfrac{1}{3}$ to get\n$ \\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{6} \\bigr) + \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{2}{3} \\bigr) = 4 \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr)$\nand similarly\n$ \\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) + \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) = 4 \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{2}{3} \\bigr)$.\nHence\n$$ \\begin{aligned} C &=\n\\frac{\\sqrt{3}}{72}\n\\Bigl( 4 \\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) - \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{2}{3} \\bigr) \n+ \\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) - \\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{2}{3} \\bigr) \n-\\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) \\Bigr) \\\\\n&=\n\\frac{\\sqrt{3}}{72}\n\\Bigl( \n5\\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) -2\\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{2}{3} \\bigr) -\\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) \\Bigr) \n\\\\ &=\n\\frac{\\sqrt{3}}{72}\n\\Bigl( \n5\\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) - \\mfrac{1}{2} \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) \n- \\mfrac{1}{2} \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) - \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) \n\\Bigr) \\\\\n&=\n\\frac{\\sqrt3}{48}\n\\bigl( \n3\\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) - \\psi_1 \\bigl( \\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr) \\bigr)\n\\end{aligned}\n$$\nSubstituting this into the formula for $S$ marked ($\\star$) above we arrive at\n$$ S =\n2\\zeta(3) -\\frac{2\\pi}{3}C = 2\\zeta(3)\n-\\frac{\\pi\\sqrt{3}}{24}\\psi_1\\bigl(\\mfrac{1}{3} \\bigr) \n+\\frac{\\pi\\sqrt{3}}{72}\\psi_1\\bigl( \\mfrac{5}{6} \\bigr)\n$$\nas required.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325557, "author_name": "Mark Wildon", "author_id": 7709, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/7709/mark-wildon", "score": 3, "body_html": "Again since any reputation should go to the LLM, I have made this answer community wiki. I think it is hard not to be at least a little impressed by what it can do, although I doubt this is the shortest proof.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 21:27:15Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325574, "author_name": "mathworker21", "author_id": 129185, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/129185/mathworker21", "score": 0, "body_html": "Wow! Can you post a link to the GPT chat? If not, can you please share how long GPT thought for before providing the answer?", "created_date": "2026-03-04 01:29:13Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325575, "author_name": "Mark Wildon", "author_id": 7709, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/7709/mark-wildon", "score": 0, "body_html": "Here's the link: chatgpt.com/share/69a78e23-d658-8008-8e3e-8173ef444b60. Thinking time: 40m 47s. I typically see between 30m and 65m on problems like this.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 01:44:39Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325578, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 2, "body_html": "@MarkWildon thank you for your care in this as well as transparency. This reminds me that there is still the unresolved question meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/6285/… on meta. MathOverflow hasn't yet got a good, robust general policy about use of AI leading to valid answers. For readers of this answer: please be aware that an established mathematician who has carefully checked (and is willing to vouch under their real name the correctness of) the output is no license to post genAI answers.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 02:59:44Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325583, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "Given Sun's answer (now with a reference to a paper that has enough to prove the claimed result) it might be that there was enough in the literature that ChatGPT was able to extract the techniques.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 04:34:16Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 98548, "title": "In search of an early picture of Max Dehn", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/98548/in-search-of-an-early-picture-of-max-dehn", "score": 20, "view_count": 1000, "answer_count": 3, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 98550, "tags": "ho.history-overview", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 06:16:24Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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I am trying to find a copy of a picture \"Mathematische Gesellschaft: \nGroup Portrait, Faculty, University of Göttingen (1899).\"

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This picture was published by Springer-Verlag as a poster in 1985,\nbut Springer has been unable to find a copy for me. I also sent an email\nquery to the Mathematics library at Göttingen, but received no response.

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So, as a last resort, I would like to ask whether any MO members have\naccess to a copy of the picture. I want to use it in a talk about Max \nDehn I am giving in Frankfurt in June, because Max Dehn appears in the \npicture.

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", "comments": [], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 98550, "question_id": 98548, "score": 30, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "Dirk", "author_id": 9652, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/9652/dirk", "author_reputation": 13198, "license": "CC BY-SA 3.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2012-06-01 08:42:42Z", "last_edited_date": "2020-06-15 07:27:00Z", "body_html": "
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As a matter of fact, the poster is right on the other side of the hall in front of my office. Here is a picture of Dehn that I've made with my phone:

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I could make a better picture on Monday if that would be helpful...

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Edit: Ok, my next better camera produced this picture:

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Probably that's already near the best you can get because you can already see the halftoning effects pretty clear...

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 252893, "author_name": "John Stillwell", "author_id": 1587, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1587/john-stillwell", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks, Dirk, this is wonderful! If it is possible to make a sharper picture I would appreciate it, but this is already good enough for me to use.", "created_date": "2012-06-01 11:45:07Z" }, { "comment_id": 253517, "author_name": "John Stillwell", "author_id": 1587, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1587/john-stillwell", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks for the second attempt; I'm now convinced that the first one is close to best possible. Back in 1899, photographs were usually not very sharp, and Dehn was only a small part of a large group picture.", "created_date": "2012-06-04 10:12:41Z" }, { "comment_id": 1073209, "author_name": "José Hdz. Stgo.", "author_id": 1593, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1593/jos%c3%a9-hdz-stgo", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Dirk: Would you be so kind as to share a photo of the whole poster with me? Best regards...", "created_date": "2022-03-14 00:15:13Z" }, { "comment_id": 1073264, "author_name": "Dirk", "author_id": 9652, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/9652/dirk", "score": 2, "body_html": "Sorry, the building where this picture was has meanwhile been completely remodeled. While my office is in this building again, the poster is not. I don't know where it is now…", "created_date": "2022-03-14 10:36:31Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503749, "question_id": 98548, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Astabricot", "author_id": 578415, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/578415/astabricot", "author_reputation": 61, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2025-11-11 20:16:09Z", "last_edited_date": "2025-11-11 20:16:30Z", "body_html": "
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There is also the same poster in my classroom. However, I can't find it in good quality on internet.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1312765, "author_name": "Nate Eldredge", "author_id": 4832, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4832/nate-eldredge", "score": 5, "body_html": "I take it that the copy of \"The Mathematical Intelligencer\" in Hilbert's hand is fake? The current journal by that name only started in 1977, and I found no indication of any earlier ones. Perhaps the poster was created to promote the journal?", "created_date": "2025-11-11 21:47:08Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312788, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 1, "body_html": "@NateEldredge it does look composited in, yes. The colouring is off for a B&W photo", "created_date": "2025-11-12 03:45:15Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503760, "question_id": 98548, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "ACR", "author_id": 142414, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/142414/acr", "author_reputation": 943, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2025-11-12 02:39:07Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 06:16:24Z", "body_html": "
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A soft copy of the photograph is available in Max Dehn Polyphonic Portrait by Jemma Lorenat, John McCleary, Volker R. Remmert, David E. Rowe, and Marjorie Senechal. It was published by the American Mathematical Society. Check page 8 of the preface. Unlike the Mathematical Intelligencer poster, Hilbert does not a hold copy of the magazine as a reader noted.

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Also, if you wish, you can contact the Josef and Anni Albers Foundation who provided this figure to the book authors.

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Ebook is available at https://bookstore.ams.org/HMATH/46

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1313351, "author_name": "testaccount", "author_id": 510150, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/510150/testaccount", "score": 0, "body_html": "The picture appears in the preface, which is freely available. See page 10 (viii) of the PDF ams.org/books/hmath/046/hmath046-endmatter.pdf", "created_date": "2025-11-16 02:59:36Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 507298, "title": "Explicit derivation of the Artin-Schreier equation from a Kummer extension in non-discretely valued complete fields", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/507298/explicit-derivation-of-the-artin-schreier-equation-from-a-kummer-extension-in-no", "score": 6, "view_count": 270, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "nt.number-theory;field-extensions;valuation-rings", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 05:57:07Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let $(K, |\\cdot|)$ be a complete ultrametric field of characteristic $0$ with residue field $k$ of characteristic $p > 0$. Assume $K$ contains a primitive $p$-th root of unity $\\zeta$. Consider a Kummer extension $L = K(a^{1/p})$ where $a \\in O_K^\\times$. Suppose the extension of residue fields $l/k$ is of degree $p$ and separable. It is well-known that $l/k$ is an Artin-Schreier extension of the form $z^p - z = \\bar{\\gamma}$. How can we find $\\gamma$ from $a$?

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More precisely, for the case where $|.|$ is not discret, how can we found $\\gamma\\in O_K$ such that $a=(1+X)^p(1+p(\\zeta-1)\\gamma)$?

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For the case where $|.|$ is discret and $\\pi$ is the uniformizer, we can construct an algorithm such that if $|a_i-1|>|p(\\zeta-1)|$ we can construct $u_i$ with $a_i=u_i^p a_{i+1}$ and $|a_{i+1}-1|\\leq |\\pi(a_i-1)|$. Therefore at some stage we obtain $|a_i-1|\\leq |p(\\zeta-1)|$.\nIn the general case, however, we have\n$|a_{i+1}| \\leq q_i \\, |a_i - 1|$ for some $q_i \\in (0,1)$.\nThere is no concrete information about the constants $q_i$.\nIf we assume that\n$|a_i - 1| > |p(\\zeta - 1)|$ for all $i$,\nwe can only prove that\n$|a_i - 1| \\to |p(\\zeta - 1)|$,\nand so far I have not been able to derive a contradiction.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1321394, "author_name": "Lubin", "author_id": 11417, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11417/lubin", "score": 2, "body_html": "In future, please have pity on an aged mathematician with failing vision, and avoid using “$a$” and “$\\alpha$” in the same paragraph.", "created_date": "2026-01-23 01:13:37Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 507322, "question_id": 507298, "score": 7, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Will Sawin", "author_id": 18060, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/18060/will-sawin", "author_reputation": 166969, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-01-22 17:05:38Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-01-22 21:03:36Z", "body_html": "
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If $a$ has the special form $a = 1 + p(\\zeta-1) b$ for $b \\in \\mathcal O_K^\\times$ then we can expand $(1+(\\zeta-1) x)^p= a$ using the binomial theorem as

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$$ p (\\zeta-1) x + \\dots + (\\zeta-1)^p x^p = p (\\zeta-1) b $$

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where the omitted terms are divisible by $p(\\zeta-1)^2$. From the minimal polynomial\n$$\\frac{ (y+1)^p -1}{y} = y^{p-1} + \\binom{p}{1} y^{p-2} + \\dots + \\binom{p}{2} y+ \\binom{p}{1} $$ of $\\zeta-1$, we see that $$(\\zeta-1)^{p-1} \\equiv - p \\pmod {p (\\zeta-1)},$$ so\n$$(\\zeta-1)^p \\equiv - p (\\zeta-1) \\pmod{ p (\\zeta-1)^2}.$$

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Thus, dividing by $p(\\zeta-1)$ and modding out by $(\\zeta-1)$ gives

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$$x - x^p \\equiv b \\pmod {(\\zeta-1)} $$\nwhich is the desired Artin–Schreier form.

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For the general case, one can observe that every $a$ for which the Kummer extension is unramified can be expressed as a $p$th power times a number of this special form. To do this, one just has to check that $a_0 = 1 + p(\\zeta-1) b_0$ for $b_0$ chosen to be congruent mod the maximal ideal to an element that generates a nontrivial Artin-Schreier extension does in fact generate a nontrivial degree $p$ unramified extension, and there is only one such extension, so every such $a$ must be a power of $a_0$ times a $p$th power by a general uniqueness statement in Kummer theory.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1322041, "author_name": "AZZOUZ Tinhinane Amina", "author_id": 117853, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/117853/azzouz-tinhinane-amina", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks. My real problem is to find a way to recover $a_0$ from $a$. In other words, I want to find $u$ such that $a = u^p a_0$. I tried, without success, to construct an iterative algorithm to find $u$. Obviously, we cannot construct a convergent sequence $(u_n)$ converging to $u$; the only possible approach seems to be to find a suitable stopping condition for the algorithm. Is there anything in the literature that could help with this issue?", "created_date": "2026-01-29 07:49:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 1322042, "author_name": "AZZOUZ Tinhinane Amina", "author_id": 117853, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/117853/azzouz-tinhinane-amina", "score": 0, "body_html": "More generally, given a finite extension $(L, |\\cdot|)$ of a complete valued field $(K, |\\cdot|)$, how can one find a generator of the ring of integers $O_L$ of $L$ as an $O_K$-module?", "created_date": "2026-01-29 07:50:27Z" }, { "comment_id": 1322090, "author_name": "Will Sawin", "author_id": 18060, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/18060/will-sawin", "score": 0, "body_html": "@AZZOUZTinhinaneAmina Constructing an iterative algorithm seems not so difficult to me. Consider some $u_i$ such that $a/ u_i^p$ has $p$-adic valuation $v_i$. If $v_i $ is at least the $p$-adic valuation of $p(\\zeta-1)$ then we are done. Otherwise we need to adjust $u_i$ by an element of valuation $\\frac{v_i}{p}$. We can try such elements until we bring $u_i^p$ closer to $a$.", "created_date": "2026-01-29 13:59:23Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325050, "author_name": "AZZOUZ Tinhinane Amina", "author_id": 117853, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/117853/azzouz-tinhinane-amina", "score": 1, "body_html": "This is possible if $K$ has a discrete valuation. Indeed, if $\\pi$ is a uniformizer, then $|a/u_i^p - 1| < |\\pi| \\, |a/u_{i-1}^p - 1|$. Therefore, at some stage we obtain $|a/u_i^p - 1| \\le |p(\\zeta - 1)|$. In the general case, however, we have $|a/u_i^p - 1| < q_i \\, |a/u_{i-1}^p - 1|$ for some $q_i \\in (0,1)$. There is no concrete information about the constants $q_i$. If we assume that $|a/u_i^p - 1| > |p(\\zeta - 1)|$ for all $i$, we can only prove that $|a/u_i^p - 1| \\to |p(\\zeta - 1)|$, and so far I have not been able to derive a contradiction.", "created_date": "2026-02-27 07:55:52Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 25630, "title": "Major mathematical advances past age fifty", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/25630/major-mathematical-advances-past-age-fifty", "score": 73, "view_count": 44000, "answer_count": 43, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "soft-question;ho.history-overview", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 05:39:20Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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From A Mathematician’s Apology, G. H. Hardy, 1940:\n\"I had better say something here about this question of age, since it is particularly important for mathematicians. No mathematician should ever allow himself to forget that mathematics, more than any other art or science, is a young man's game. ... I do not know an instance of a major mathematical advance initiated by a man past fifty. If a man of mature age loses interest in and abandons mathematics, the loss is not likely to be very serious either for mathematics or for himself.\"

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Have matters improved for the elderly mathematician? Please answer with major discoveries made by mathematicians past 50.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54004, "author_name": "Pietro Majer", "author_id": 6101, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/6101/pietro-majer", "score": 72, "body_html": "Rmk: Hardy suffered of depression, and was living not exactly in the most suitable environment for that. Unfortunately, this wrong idea of \"mathematics is a young man's game\" had an incredible success. ", "created_date": "2010-05-23 08:10:43Z" }, { "comment_id": 54061, "author_name": "BCnrd", "author_id": 3927, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3927/bcnrd", "score": 38, "body_html": "Cliff Taubes (b. 1954) recently solved Weinstein conjecture, Gopal Prasad (b. 1945) has done multiple great things (separately with J-K. Yu, A. Rapinchuk, & S-K. Yeung) on buildings, Zariski-dense and arithmetic subgroups of ss groups over number fields, classification of \"fake\" projective spaces, etc., Serre turned 50 in 1976 (e.g., his precise modularity conjecture published in 1986 exerted vast influence over number theory ever since), and Jean-Marc Fontaine (b. 1944) is as dominant as ever in $p$-adic Hodge theory (e.g., Colmez-Fontaine thm. in 2000, recent work with L. Fargues, etc.)", "created_date": "2010-05-23 13:04:44Z" }, { "comment_id": 56856, "author_name": "paul Monsky", "author_id": 6214, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/6214/paul-monsky", "score": 19, "body_html": "This isn't exactly what you were asking for, but Littlewood himself, after overcoming depression at age 72, did good mathematics throughout his 80's--it's hardly a young man's game.", "created_date": "2010-06-01 23:50:48Z" }, { "comment_id": 56860, "author_name": "Victor Protsak", "author_id": 5740, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5740/victor-protsak", "score": 12, "body_html": "Re \"Littlewood himself\": Of course it was well known that Littlewood was the name Hardy used to publish his lesser results (cf \"A mathematician's miscellany\").", "created_date": "2010-06-02 00:09:39Z" }, { "comment_id": 270526, "author_name": "Tom Leinster", "author_id": 586, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/586/tom-leinster", "score": 15, "body_html": "What's really odd is when Abel and Galois are wheeled out in support of the view that mathematics is a young person's game. Spot the logical flaw. ", "created_date": "2012-08-20 18:25:28Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 25631, "question_id": 25630, "score": 82, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "David Hansen", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 13308, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-23 07:12:56Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Roger Apery was 62 when he proved the irrationality of $\\zeta(3)$.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54025, "author_name": "Gerry Myerson", "author_id": 3684, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3684/gerry-myerson", "score": 2, "body_html": "I think disregarded is a bit too strong - more like, met with considerable skepticism, on the grounds that it was not expected that such a venerable problem would be solved by such low-tech methods. The community took the proof seriously enough to go through it in detail and then acknowledged that it was valid. ", "created_date": "2010-05-23 10:22:56Z" }, { "comment_id": 54074, "author_name": "Ben Webster", "author_id": 66, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/66/ben-webster", "score": 3, "body_html": "Victor, read the article \"A proof that Euler missed\" maths.mq.edu.au/~alf/45.pdf This provides some historical context around the announcement of Apery's proof. Skepticism toward proofs the prover has not produced the details of is healthy, not snubbing.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 14:08:36Z" }, { "comment_id": 54278, "author_name": "Junkie", "author_id": 5267, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5267/junkie", "score": 2, "body_html": "\"Upon re-reading it and the article that Wadim linked it became clear that the so-called \"community\" acted in a worst possible manner. It was only thanks to the determination of a few outstanding mathematicians that he got the recognition that he deserved.\" I would say this differently. Thru the determination of others Apery's ideas went from a convoluted multi-100 page work to a 3-page note. Has anyone bothered to see if his original manuscript did in fact prove bounded denominators? That's the crux, and vDP's cheeky \"utterly compelling\" numerically (so is 1.2020569..., no?) is a nip off.", "created_date": "2010-05-24 02:43:43Z" }, { "comment_id": 54499, "author_name": "S. Carnahan", "author_id": 121, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/121/s-carnahan", "score": 10, "body_html": "The following is my (probably flawed) recollection of part of Cohen's lecture at the Lenstra Truerfeest a little over 7 years ago: \"Apéry gave a shameful talk. He explained almost nothing, and many of his formulas didn't make any sense. One of his sums seemed to have zeroes in the denominator of every term. But there was one formula that he wrote that looked interesting and new, and Hendrik was sitting next to me with a calculator. I asked him to check the first few terms on his calculator, and they matched very well. After the talk we were able to use it to reconstruct a proof.\"", "created_date": "2010-05-25 03:36:24Z" }, { "comment_id": 54500, "author_name": "S. Carnahan", "author_id": 121, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/121/s-carnahan", "score": 3, "body_html": "I think between \"Hendrik was sitting next to me with a calculator.\" and \"I asked him to check the first few terms\", Cohen made some remark about calculators being rare and expensive back then.", "created_date": "2010-05-25 03:49:24Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 146035, "question_id": 25630, "score": 63, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Ian Morris", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1840", "author_reputation": 6277, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-02-16 21:25:26Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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An answer of particular contemporary relevance would be Yitang Zhang, who established earlier this year (2013) that there are infinitely many pairs of primes which differ by less than 70 million (this constant has subsequently been improved to 246 by the team of a Polymath project). He was born in 1955 and had only two previous journal publications.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 376442, "author_name": "Federico Poloni", "author_id": 1898, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1898/federico-poloni", "score": 45, "body_html": "For the lazy, 2013-1955=58.", "created_date": "2013-10-27 12:44:51Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325586, "author_name": "Gerry Myerson", "author_id": 3684, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3684/gerry-myerson", "score": 2, "body_html": "However, neither $2013$ nor $1955$ is a prime, so this doesn't count as two primes differing by less then $70$ million.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 06:13:21Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25635, "question_id": 25630, "score": 62, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "arun s", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 525, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-23 07:32:13Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Weierstrass approximation theorem was proved by Karl Weierstrass when he was 70 years old

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Since no one has mentioned A.N. Kolmogorov (born 1903), I hope I may be \nforgiven for a second answer. The following is from Kolmogorov's\nWikipedia biography.

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In classical mechanics, he is best known for the Kolmogorov–Arnold–Moser \ntheorem (first presented in 1954 at the International Congress of \nMathematicians). In 1957 he solved Hilbert's thirteenth problem (a joint \nwork with his student V. I. Arnold). He was a founder of algorithmic \ncomplexity theory, often referred to as Kolmogorov complexity theory, \nwhich he began to develop around this time.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54565, "author_name": "Halfdan Faber", "author_id": 1320, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1320/halfdan-faber", "score": 4, "body_html": "John, Great answer! I don't think there should be any limit on the number of good answers from any one contributor, for a question like this.", "created_date": "2010-05-25 07:47:15Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25672, "question_id": 25630, "score": 57, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Victor Miller", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2784", "author_reputation": 4818, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-02-15 23:53:28Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Kurt Heegner published his only, extremely influential paper, in 1952 when he was 59. However it took nearly 20 years for the mathematical community to realize what a gem it was.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 73131, "author_name": "The Mathemagician", "author_id": 3546, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3546/the-mathemagician", "score": 0, "body_html": "GREAT example,Victor.A sad story,too. ", "created_date": "2010-07-19 06:07:35Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25632, "question_id": 25630, "score": 54, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Tony Huynh", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2233", "author_reputation": 32855, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-01-06 16:19:28Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Leonhard Euler. According to the Wikipedia page, he still managed to produce one paper per week in the year 1775 (at age 68), despite deteriorating eyesight. As a concrete example, at age 65 he proved that $2^{31} − 1$ is a Mersenne prime, which may have remained the largest known prime for the next 95 years.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54028, "author_name": "Franz Lemmermeyer", "author_id": 3503, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3503/franz-lemmermeyer", "score": 1, "body_html": "A more precise version of the history on M_31 can be found here: primes.utm.edu/notes/by_year.html He certainly did not do the necessary calculations himself at a time when he was completely blind.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 10:58:05Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25679, "question_id": 25630, "score": 49, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "jeebus", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 1, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-23 16:04:52Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Marina Ratner (b. 1938) proved Ratner's Theorems around 1990. They are some of the biggest advances in ergodic theory for quite a long time.

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P. S. Novikov was 54 when he gave the first proof (143 pages!) of the unsolvability of the word problem for groups in 1955, and 58 when he co-solved the Burnside problem with S. I. Adian.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54054, "author_name": "Wadim Zudilin", "author_id": 4953, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4953/wadim-zudilin", "score": 0, "body_html": "But Sergey Ivanovich (Adian) was much younger at the time of solving the Burnside problem! +1 for recalling a remarkable family of results.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 12:46:31Z" }, { "comment_id": 54213, "author_name": "John Stillwell", "author_id": 1587, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1587/john-stillwell", "score": 3, "body_html": "Another in the same family of results is the theorem of A. A. Markov that the homeomorphism problem is unsolvable for manifolds of dimension $\\ge 4$, proved in 1958 when Markov was 55.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 23:17:59Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25638, "question_id": 25630, "score": 42, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Victor Protsak", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5740", "author_reputation": 14697, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-01-06 16:18:56Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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There are many examples of people doing significant work into their 60s and 70s, but fewer great discoveries. Here are a couple of my favorites:

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  1. August Ferdinand Möbius discovered the Möbius band in 1858 at age 68 (the date referenced in Wikipedia). Other sources place the discovery even later: in 1861 he submitted to the French Academy prize competition a paper on it that passed unnoticed. As John Stillwell pointed out, in 1863 (age 73), Möbius published the classification of surfaces by genus (and in 1865 he finally described the Möbius band and the notion of orientability in print). Johann Benedict Listing turned 54 in 1862, the year in which he published a memoir discussing a 4-dimensional generalization of Euler's formula and described the Möbius band which he discovered independently.

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  3. Julius Plücker was 64 in 1865, when he \"returned to the field of geometry\" after a hiatus of nearly 20 years (Wikipedia, McTutor, Cajori) and discovered the \"line geometry\" (it is possible that the roots of this discovery go back to his 1846 monograph). The first volume of his book Neue Geometrie des Raumes describing it was published in 1868 and the second volume was completed and published posthumously by Felix Klein in 1869. The idea of using higher-dimensional objects as points in new \"geometry\" made profound impact on Klein and Sophus Lie and led to the Erlangen program and, by route of Lie sphere geometry, to Lie's general theory of transformation groups. This also marked one of the first appearances of higer-dimensional spaces in geometry.

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  1. As described in a Quanta magazine article, a retired German statistician Thomas Royen proved the Gaussian correlation inequality (GCI) in 2014 at the age of 67. GCI was a major conjecture at the interface of probability and convex geometry that remained open for more than 40 years. An additional twist to the story is that the proof went virtually unnoticed for almost 2 years.
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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54009, "author_name": "John Stillwell", "author_id": 1587, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1587/john-stillwell", "score": 11, "body_html": "At an even later age, Möbius in 1863 discovered the classification of closed orientable surfaces by genus.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 08:51:09Z" }, { "comment_id": 54016, "author_name": "Victor Protsak", "author_id": 5740, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5740/victor-protsak", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you, I didn't remember that! On the other hand, Kolmogorov and Yushkevich (\"Mathematics of the 19th century\", vol 2) indicate that Plücker's idea of line geometry originated already in his 1846 \"System des Geometrie des Raumes\". I don't have Klein's \"Lectures on the development of mathematics in the 19th century\" close at hand to clarify this point, but apparently Plücker switched to doing physics around that time (1846) due to strained relations with German mathematicians and unfavorable reception of his analytic methods.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 09:13:00Z" }, { "comment_id": 270617, "author_name": "David Corwin", "author_id": 1355, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1355/david-corwin", "score": 0, "body_html": "\"The idea of using higher-dimensional objects as points\" - What does this mean? Could it mean that Plucker's idea led to generic points in algebraic geometry (and more generally, non-closed points of schemes)?", "created_date": "2012-08-21 01:47:40Z" }, { "comment_id": 271048, "author_name": "Victor Protsak", "author_id": 5740, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5740/victor-protsak", "score": 0, "body_html": "No, just to the idea of more abstract spaces, such as homogeneous spaces $G/H$ and the simplest examples of moduli spaces. ", "created_date": "2012-08-23 01:34:23Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 27378, "question_id": 25630, "score": 33, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "brondell", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/6639", "author_reputation": 1, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-01-06 16:10:19Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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According to wiki, Mihailescu got his PhD at the age of 42; and then proved Catalan's conjecture in 2002, age 47, so almost 50.

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Zariski proved what might be arguably his greatest result, the theorem on formal functions, just after turning fifty. He also initiated a whole field of enquiry, the theory of equisingularity, in his late 60's.

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Louis de Branges solved the Bieberbach conjecture in 1985 when he was 53.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54206, "author_name": "Victor Protsak", "author_id": 5740, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5740/victor-protsak", "score": 0, "body_html": "Was that his first or his last attempt at the solution? I understand that he worked on it for quite some time.", "created_date": "2010-05-23 22:41:18Z" }, { "comment_id": 54293, "author_name": "Victor Miller", "author_id": 2784, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2784/victor-miller", "score": 0, "body_html": "Depending on how one counts it might have been his second or third. de Branges is no shrinking violet. He's also announced solutions to the Poincare conjecture (before Perlman) and the Riemann Hypothesis.", "created_date": "2010-05-24 03:36:31Z" }, { "comment_id": 54385, "author_name": "Deane Yang", "author_id": 613, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/613/deane-yang", "score": 5, "body_html": "I'm not aware that de Branges ever claimed a proof of the Poincare conjecture, which is a bit far from de Branges' area of research. He has been working relentlessly on the Riemann hypothesis for quite a while now.", "created_date": "2010-05-24 15:25:45Z" }, { "comment_id": 73132, "author_name": "The Mathemagician", "author_id": 3546, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3546/the-mathemagician", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Deane A few months ago,he claimed at the archive to actually have the proof-but so far,no one's been able to verify it. I hope someone really takes a good hard look at it-if only to stop him from saying it.", "created_date": "2010-07-19 06:10:00Z" }, { "comment_id": 1047197, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 0, "body_html": "@VictorMiller I suspect you're confusing the Poincare conjecture with the invariant subspace problem. Karl Sabbagh quotes de Branges as saying, \"The first case in which I made an error was in proving the existence of invariant subspaces for continuous transformations in Hilbert spaces. This was something that happened in 1964, and I declared something to be true which I was not able to substantiate. And the fact that I did that destroyed my career. My colleagues have never forgiven it.\"", "created_date": "2021-11-11 17:39:52Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25689, "question_id": 25630, "score": 26, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Deane Yang", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 28230, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-23 16:46:23Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Although I concede that there is some truth to the belief that the greatest conceptual breakthroughs in mathematics are made by younger mathematicians, I think it has led to the mistaken idea that older mathematicians rarely do anything significant.

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I just don't think it's that uncommon for top mathematicians today to be productive after they're 50. Atiyah and Bott did great work after they were 50. It seems to me that so did Singer. Although most mathematicians slow down after they are 50, so do most non-mathematicians. But there are not a few exceptions to this.

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And is any of this that different from other fields?

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54250, "author_name": "Victor Protsak", "author_id": 5740, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5740/victor-protsak", "score": 0, "body_html": "He told me several anecdotes about Hardy, but he presented each story in a sarcastic tone. “Hardy’s opinion that mathematics is a young man’s game is nonsense,” he said. (Goro Shimura, André Weil As I Knew Him, ams.org/notices/199904/shimura.pdf)", "created_date": "2010-05-24 01:37:40Z" }, { "comment_id": 139021, "author_name": "Thierry Zell", "author_id": 8212, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/8212/thierry-zell", "score": 6, "body_html": "How are other fields different? Well, I always picture experimental sciences as being much more hierarchical, with the (older) team leader being credited for the work of the whole team. Thus, one's impressive achievements would come later in life. Disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about, as I wrote it's the image I got, but not necessarily from very reliable sources.", "created_date": "2011-02-15 16:56:14Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25644, "question_id": 25630, "score": 26, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Anweshi", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2938", "author_reputation": 7582, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-01-06 16:10:33Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Theorema Egregium was published by Gauss in 1828. Since Gauss was born in 1777, he ought to have been a little over 50 then.

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Ref: Disquisitiones generales circa superficies curva (1828)

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 270621, "author_name": "Turbo", "author_id": 10035, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/10035/turbo", "score": 4, "body_html": "Gauss usually keeps his stuff in his sleeve for a while. So you never knew when he had the insight.", "created_date": "2012-08-21 04:20:08Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25650, "question_id": 25630, "score": 23, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Franz Lemmermeyer", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 33319, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-23 10:54:30Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Furtwängler proved the principal ideal theorem when he was almost 60. No small feat given that Artin and Schreier simultaneously were working on it.

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Paul Erdős continued to do work in many fields including combinatorics after his 50th birthday. Some of his papers are here

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Something fitting this description that I haven't seen mentioned here is Norman Levinson's proof that asymptotically 1/3 of the zeroes of the Riemann zeta function lie on the critical line, which was the best result of its kind at the time. He was a little over 60 when he proved this, shortly before his death. What I find most remarkable about this is that he didn't really do much number theory until his last few years.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1179468, "author_name": "Daniel Asimov", "author_id": 5484, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5484/daniel-asimov", "score": 0, "body_html": "But Levinson was an expert in complex analysis, so analytic number theory may have been right up his alley.", "created_date": "2023-09-30 05:15:19Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25636, "question_id": 25630, "score": 18, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "DoubleJay", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 2473, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-23 07:51:28Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Christos Papadimitriou is in his late 50's now (I can't find his exact age, which is a little strange), and in just the past few years he's done major work in algorithmic game theory, a field at least somewhat removed from the one he made his career in. Technically, he's a theoretical computer scientist - I say this is close enough though.

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This is not really an answer but an objection to most of the answers at this pages and in particular to not so well formed question (it does not do justice to Hardy's book in my opinion).

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If you read the whole chapter of Hardy's book where the excerpt is from, Hardy explains somewhere that he does not know a highest class mathematician whose best discoveries came after 50. I recall after reading the whole chapter that I was convinced with the bulk of text that Hardy meant that there are no major advances by a mathematician after 50, unless they had major discoveries also before 50. So Euler and Poincare are not counterexamples to Hardy's experience, and some other answers in this column are not as well! Of course some people completed earlier work after 50, or continued with major advances while they already became major mathematicians before, but do you really a know a mathematician who done no major research before 50 and done such world class research after 50 ?? Also do not look the publication dates but the creation dates.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 54377, "author_name": "Deane Yang", "author_id": 613, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/613/deane-yang", "score": 6, "body_html": "well, even your formulation is a bit extreme. I don't see the need to require \"no major research before 50\". How about just a well-known mathematician whose best work was after the age of 50? Although this is less common, I don't think it is any more rare than it is in any other field.", "created_date": "2010-05-24 14:38:36Z" }, { "comment_id": 54607, "author_name": "gowers", "author_id": 1459, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1459/gowers", "score": 4, "body_html": "As I understand it, Apery, who has already been mentioned, remains a good example even if you restrict the question in this way.", "created_date": "2010-05-25 12:54:19Z" }, { "comment_id": 73129, "author_name": "The Mathemagician", "author_id": 3546, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3546/the-mathemagician", "score": 5, "body_html": "@Deane,gowers: Thank you,gentleman.This old wives' tale of Hardy's has probably prevented many a late bloomer from pursuing thier dreams. And that's tragic. ", "created_date": "2010-07-19 06:04:07Z" }, { "comment_id": 173823, "author_name": "Zoran Skoda", "author_id": 35833, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/35833/zoran-skoda", "score": 11, "body_html": "Andrew, a person who does mathematics in order to be famous or \"major mathematician\" and not to enjoy path of curiosity is tragic in the first place, whatever be his/her achievements. The present day celebrity counterculture, statistics based on \"official results\", meaningless linear lists of comparison and so on aggravate the situation. Among the worst is the funding agency habit that they award more future support to those who got in past more support, else param. equal. That is, if you achieved the same with more spending in past they consider you more efficient, what is outrageously wrong.", "created_date": "2011-06-26 08:59:40Z" }, { "comment_id": 1059421, "author_name": "H A Helfgott", "author_id": 398, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/398/h-a-helfgott", "score": 1, "body_html": "People who do what is clearly their best work (in the strict sense, not just \"work that is as good as what they did before\") around 50 or later do exist - see, e.g., Marina Ratner (what would be some other indisputable examples?) - but they are rare - rare enough that people remark repeatedly on it.", "created_date": "2022-01-06 16:32:49Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 25813, "question_id": 25630, "score": 15, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Steve D", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 4494, "license": "CC BY-SA 2.5", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2010-05-24 22:31:50Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Philip Hall published his paper with Higman, as well as his \"Theorems like Sylow's\", after he was 50. These are arguably his two biggest papers (and the Hall-Higman paper is arguably one of the most important papers in group theory).

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Karl Dickman (born 1862) published the only math paper in 1930 (age 68) about distribution of prime factors. \nHe discovered the asymptotic distribution of the largest prime divisor of n, where n is chosen uniformly from $1,...,N$ and $N\\to\\infty$ (this is Dickman distribution).\nMuch later the distribution of other prime divisors was described. This is related to the famous Poisson-Dirichlet distribution.\n(see also \"The Poisson–Dirichlet Distribution and its Relatives Revisited\" by Lars Holst).

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Tibor Rado introduced the busy beaver function and proved its noncomputablity at the age of 67.

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And of course, Dennis Sullivan and James Stasheff, both well into their 60's and 70's, are still both major contributors to topology and categorical algebra.

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When Khare and Wintenberger proved Serre's conjecture, Wintenberger was older than fifty.

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Connes has initiated whole new areas of mathematics since turning 50: spectral triples, and his novel approach to the Riemann hypothesis, for example.

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A recent example (you may or may not think it's a major advance - but it is certainly big news in fundamental game theory): William Press (64) and the legendary Freeman Dyson (89) have shown that iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma contains strategies that dominate any evolutionary opponent (in the paper bearing the same title).

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The Fermat number $F_6$ was shown to have nontrivial factorization, by Landry at the age of 82. And apparently it was Landry's only mathematical publication.

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(Source: Ribenboim, Prime number records(the smaller book).)

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This is perhaps not a \"major mathematical advance\" in the sense of Hardy; but is inspiring nonetheless. I have seen a good number of elderly retired people with dreams of solving Fermat's Last Theorem or other such theorems in a simple way, and doggedly keep on trying and without getting disheartened by the lack of recognition for their efforts.

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Andre Weil lay the modern foundation of \"theta series\" in Acta math. (1964/65) when he was almost 60 years old!

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This \"almost\" answers Zoran Škoda's question: Otto Grün (his theorems in group theory are still well known) published his first paper at the age of 46.

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Burnside proved the $p^aq^b$ theorem at age 53.

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Roughly 1990, Lusztig wrote a series of papers on quantum groups. Perhaps the result that the braid groups acts on $U_q(\\mathfrak{g})$ is the proof which is least conceptual.

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The original paper contains a case by case check for $m=2,3,4,6$ as far as I understand.

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If it is not a coincidence, then it needs an explanation. My question is

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Any conceptual proof up to now is known?

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At least not one by one.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 964605, "author_name": "Paul Gustafson", "author_id": 91709, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/91709/paul-gustafson", "score": 0, "body_html": "Have you seen mathoverflow.net/a/115252 ? In particular, Drinfeld's ICM talk has an explicit formula for the universal 𝑅-matrix.", "created_date": "2020-12-28 01:40:43Z" }, { "comment_id": 964623, "author_name": "Noah Snyder", "author_id": 22, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/22/noah-snyder", "score": 0, "body_html": "Do you need this for the Lusztig integral form? Or would the h-adic version be enough? In the latter case I thought you could get it pretty directly from the classical r-matrix following Drinfeld, as Paul has suggested. If you really want the integral form done carefully then you probably just need to do what Lusztig does, but the h-adic version tells you what formulas you should use.", "created_date": "2020-12-28 04:19:04Z" }, { "comment_id": 964647, "author_name": "Pavel Safronov", "author_id": 18512, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/18512/pavel-safronov", "score": 5, "body_html": "I think the question is about the quantum Weyl group (denoted by $T_{i, e}', T_{i, e}''$ in Lusztig's book) rather than about the quantum $R$-matrix.", "created_date": "2020-12-28 11:08:47Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508754, "question_id": 379866, "score": 0, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Dat Minh Ha", "author_id": 143390, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/143390/dat-minh-ha", "author_reputation": 1728, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-04 20:25:05Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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For the braid group actions on Yangians and on quantum untwisted loop algebras (so effectively, on quantum Kac-Moody algebras of untwisted affine types), we can now refer to the paper https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.06402.

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Given a topological group $G$ and a closed subgroup $H \\le G$, one can ask when the projection map $G \\to G/H$ is a fiber bundle. In Steenrod's book on fiber bundles he gives a necessary and sufficient condition, being when there is a locally defined continuous section in the neighborhood of the identity coset, called a local cross-section.

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He refers to an unpublished example of Hanner of a compact abelian group of infinite dimension $G$ and a zero-dimensional subgroup $H$ which fails this condition. Mostert similarly hints at this result in 1952, and Karube gives a similar but supposedly different example in 1958.

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Does anyone know the precise folklore construction of Hanner?

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Assume $X:=X_d$ is an hypersurface of degree $d$ in $\\mathbb{P}^n$. Assume in addition that $d<n+1$, hence $X$ is a Fano variety.

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The hyperplane section theorem of Lefschetz ensures that the only interesting part of the cohomology is $H^{n-1}(X,\\mathbb{Q})$, and as $X$ is Fano, it is well known that $H^{n-1,0}(X)=0$ : the Hodge structure is of coniveau $1$.

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Recall that an hodge structure $H$ is of niveau $\\alpha$ if $H^{p,q}=0$ for $\\mid p-q \\mid > \\alpha$.

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Now for very low degree hypersurfaces, the niveau is bigger. I observed the following facts with direct computations :

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Furthermore on all this examples this bound is optimal, except from the case of cubic surfaces, so maybe we should neglect cases with a very small $n$.

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So I was looking for a precise result about the niveau of this Hodge structure. As we have explicit formulas I tried the two following methods :

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With intersection theory

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We can easily compute the Chern classes of $X$ as it is an hypersurface, and so Riemann-Roch formula gives an explicit element $P\\in \\mathbb{Q}(x,y)$ such that in a formal power extension, the coefficient of $x^py^q$ is exactly the vanishing part of $h^{p,q}$.

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However it seems really annoying to expend this fraction for a general couple $(d,n)$.

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With vanishing of the pole

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Let $S=\\mathbb{C}[x_0,\\cdots,x_n]$, $f$ the homogenous polynomial defining $X$ and $J_f$ the homogenous ideal generated by the jacobian of $f$. Finally, let $R=S/J_f$. Then a vanishing of the pole argument gives an isomorphism

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$$R^{kd-n-1}\\simeq H^{n-k,k-1}_{van}(X)$$

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where $R^m$ is the part of degree $m$, and $van$ denotes the vanishing part of the cohomology.

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Now if I choose $f= \\sum_{i=0}^n x_i^d$, then the jacobian is really easy to compute, so we can find the degree where $R^m$ vanishes. More precisely, we have $R^m=0$ exactly when

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$$m>(n+1)(d-2).$$

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So $H^{n-k,k-1}_{van}(X)=0$ for $k>(n+1)(d-1)/d$. It is exactly the niveau bound I was looking for !

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Conclusion of the argument and question

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I have computed the niveau bound for one example of hypersurface. However, from Riemann-Roch theorem and computation of the Chern numbers of hypersurfaces, we know that the Hodge numbers depend only on $(d,n)$, so my bound is true for any hypersurface of degree $d$.

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So I have found the result I was looking for, but I am annoyed because the proof used a vanishing of the pole argument, and so the Bott vanishing theorem. I would like to extend this computation to other kind of hypersurfaces (at least for the vanishing part), but in general this vanishing theorem is wrong.

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Also it is rather disappointing to prove the result only for a precise choice of $f$, and then use the independance of the choice. I would rather prove the result for any choice of $f$, or directly with the computation of Chern numbers.

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Do you have any idea to find a better argument ?

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1270805, "author_name": "Jason Starr", "author_id": 13265, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/13265/jason-starr", "score": 1, "body_html": "Are you asking how to extend the Griffiths residue calculus to complete intersections in generalized flag varieties (not necessarily of type $A_n$)? There is an article of Carlsson and Toledo with a quite general form of the Griffiths residue calculus.", "created_date": "2025-02-07 21:10:27Z" }, { "comment_id": 1270809, "author_name": "Littlebird", "author_id": 484878, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/484878/littlebird", "score": 0, "body_html": "Yes it could be a possibility. Which one are you talking about ? And can we hope to find a generalization without the flag assumption ?", "created_date": "2025-02-07 21:27:10Z" }, { "comment_id": 1270852, "author_name": "abx", "author_id": 40297, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/40297/abx", "score": 2, "body_html": "You'll find a precise formula (with proof, and more generally for complete intersections) in SGA 7, Exposé XI, Corollaire 2.8.", "created_date": "2025-02-08 05:27:41Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325662, "author_name": "Enrico", "author_id": 52811, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/52811/enrico", "score": 0, "body_html": "Since the partial derivatives (for a smooth projective hypersurface of degree $d$ in $\\mathbf{P}^n$) form a regular sequence, you might compute the Hilbert-Poincaré series of the Jacobian algebra (from $\\frac{(1-t^{d-1})^{n+1}}{(1-t)^{n+1}}$). This would give you an immediate generalization to the (quasi)smooth hyper surfaces in weighted projective spaces. You may also take a look at arxiv.org/abs/1801.09586 for a practical way of computing Hodge numbers and extracting useful information.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:48:43Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 487402, "question_id": 487398, "score": 0, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Sasha", "author_id": 4428, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4428/sasha", "author_reputation": 42266, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-02-07 19:30:16Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Since $H^{p,q}(X) = H^q(X,\\Omega^p_X)$ and since for $p + q \\ne 1$ the only nontrivial cohomology of $\\Omega^p(X)$ is $H^p(X, \\Omega^p_X) = H^{p,p}(X)$, and it is 1-dimensional, one has\n$$\nH^{p,q}(X) = 0 \n\\iff\n\\chi(\\Omega^p_X) = (-1)^p.\n$$\nOn the other hand, $\\chi(\\Omega^p_X)$ can be computed by Riemann--Roch.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1270792, "author_name": "Will Sawin", "author_id": 18060, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/18060/will-sawin", "score": 3, "body_html": "This idea was already mentioned in the question, in the first bolded section, the difficulty being how to do this computation in a nice way and find a simple expression for when the cohomology vanishes.", "created_date": "2025-02-07 19:33:20Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 371129, "title": "Where can I read about Veblen functions / klammersymbols beyond the large Veblen ordinal?", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/371129/where-can-i-read-about-veblen-functions-klammersymbols-beyond-the-large-veblen", "score": 3, "view_count": 398, "answer_count": 2, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "set-theory;lo.logic;ordinal-numbers", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 06:41:04Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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So, I'm not sure to what extent this is a thing. John Baez mentions in this blog post that common large countable ordinals beyond the large Veblen ordinal can also \"be defined as fixed points\". He doesn't expand on that but I take it that means fixed points of a further Veblen-like / klammersymbol-like construction.

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But, I haven't been able to find any good account of this. Is this a known/standard thing? I want to know just how far the Veblen construction can be pushed -- like, beyond the large Veblen ordinal, is there an \"ultimate Veblen ordinal\" somewhere; and might it be equal to an already-named / well-known one, such as Bachmann-Howard? (I suppose a negative answer here would be if arbitrarily large computable ordinals could be obtained this way, making the \"ultimate Veblen ordinal\" just $\\omega_1^{\\mathrm{CK}}$.)

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Now I can certainly think of ways of continuing beyond the large Veblen ordinal myself... but I don't really want to reinvent the wheel here when I expect others have likely already done it better. So, is there a good account of this somewhere?

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Thank you all!

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 938434, "author_name": "Fedor Pakhomov", "author_id": 36385, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36385/fedor-pakhomov", "score": 1, "body_html": "If one takes Veblen-like construction as an informal concept, then it would be hard to justify some $\\alpha<\\omega_1^{\\mathsf{CK}}$ to be the ultimate Veblen ordinal (the suprema of all ordinals obtained by Veblen-style constructions). The reason for this is that it wouldn't be clear why one shouldn't be allowed to make the next step of diagonalization and overcome this particular ordinal.", "created_date": "2020-09-08 09:51:53Z" }, { "comment_id": 938435, "author_name": "Fedor Pakhomov", "author_id": 36385, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36385/fedor-pakhomov", "score": 0, "body_html": "However, I think that it is possible to give Bachmann-Howard ordinal as a (non-least) upper bound for reasonable constructions of this kind. The motivation here is that it is reasonable to expect that this constructions should be formalizable in Kripke-Platek set theory with infinity $\\mathsf{KP}\\omega$ and the proof-theoretic ordinal of $\\mathsf{KP}\\omega$ is Bachmann-Howard ordinal.", "created_date": "2020-09-08 09:52:06Z" }, { "comment_id": 938503, "author_name": "SSequence", "author_id": 112385, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/112385/ssequence", "score": 0, "body_html": "I think a link to original paper (of howard I think?) was posted on fom (if I am re-calling correctly). I don't think it was that long ago (maybe around an year or bit more). I will try to find and post the link (in few days perhaps). Other than that, one could probably find a number of relevant topics by using a search or following the links in some of the topics under \"Related\".", "created_date": "2020-09-08 14:35:19Z" }, { "comment_id": 938659, "author_name": "SSequence", "author_id": 112385, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/112385/ssequence", "score": 0, "body_html": "Here is the link I was referring to in comment above: arxiv.org/abs/1903.04609", "created_date": "2020-09-09 04:54:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 938909, "author_name": "Fedor Pakhomov", "author_id": 36385, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/36385/fedor-pakhomov", "score": 1, "body_html": "@HarryAltman I think that it is very unlikely that there is some concrete point of failure. But in my opinion the reasoning that either there is a concrete point of failure or we could reach unlimitely large ordinals isn't valid. This is because we are dealing with an informal notion here. Furthermore, it is rather unlikely that any particular formalization would be completely satisfactory (precisely because then it would lead to a concrete point of failure, which we would be able to diagonalize against).", "created_date": "2020-09-10 10:23:23Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 371199, "question_id": 371129, "score": 2, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Andreas Weiermann", "author_id": 62695, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/62695/andreas-weiermann", "author_reputation": 471, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2020-09-08 15:04:44Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Here is some relevant information by a grandmaster on the subject:\nhttp://www.mathematik.uni-muenchen.de/~buchholz/articles/jaegerfestschr_buchholz3.pdf

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 948877, "author_name": "Harry Altman", "author_id": 5583, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5583/harry-altman", "score": 0, "body_html": "OK, taking a look at this I'm afraid I don't understand this. He explains how to construct $\\Gamma_\\alpha$ in the preliminaries, but I'm having trouble following it beyond that. His $\\phi$ only has one subscript, but (going by the equation before Lemma 1.6) it acts like multiple (i.e., acts like Klammersymbols) if you go into uncountables? I don't really understand how to get beyond that though, especially if merely getting beyond (the equivalent of) a single subscript requires getting to $\\Omega$! I'd hope for each step to be somehow expressible in terms of things constructed so far...", "created_date": "2020-10-19 02:12:49Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508772, "question_id": 371129, "score": 0, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Harry Altman", "author_id": 5583, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5583/harry-altman", "author_reputation": 2747, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-05 06:24:38Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-05 06:41:04Z", "body_html": "
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OK, these people define the \"dimensional Veblen\" which they show can approach the Bachmann-Howard ordinal: https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.12832

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So, that's pretty cool. And it does indeed seem like it's hard to go further than this, because the depth of indexing is always finite -- if it could be any ordinal, then you could take fixed points and go further, but as they've set it up, you can't do that. Moreover, I don't think there is any sensible way to do that; sure, you could potentially allow non-uniform indexing rank, which they don't, but because every relation allowed is finite, this doesn't actually let you get to \"indexing rank $\\omega$\"; there will always be a maximum, finite, indexing rank in each relation even if you allow non-uniformity. So this might be the answer!

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However, there is a comment towards the end about going further by adding more types of brackets? I have to admit I don't understand what that means, though.

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Hello MathOverflow Community!

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I have just created my account, and this is my very first post on here, so please excuse me if this is formatted incorrectly or not the right place for such a question.

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Also my highest level of education is high-school level mathematics, so please answer in a way that I may understand if possible. Although the question itself can be understood by much younger math enthusiasts than that! Here goes!

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I’ve been pondering the Goldbach Conjecture for several years now

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(which states that every even number greater than 2 is the sum of two primes)

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I believe I have discovered/created a deceptively simple yet very interesting function which seemingly always produces two unique prime numbers which sum to any even number greater than 8.\nI have not proven this function definitively for all even numbers equal to or greater than 8, but have asked AI to check up to about 50,000 which has been exceedingly validating so far.

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This is the function

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For any even number ‘N’ equal to or greater than 8,

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First subtract any arbitrary prime number that is both

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If this produces a prime number, congratulations the function halts/terminates and it has found two unique prime numbers that sum to N.

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If however this produces a composite number, then this is where it becomes more fun… Then subtract one of the prime factors of this new composite number from the original number N.

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This will either produce a prime number and halt the function, or yet another composite number in which case keep iterating… but be cautious to avoid subtracting a prime factor that has already been attempted at any previous step of the function; as this could create an obvious/trivial loop. However it seems as though there will always be at least one ‘as of yet untested’ unique prime factor of each new composite number to try each step until eventually halting at just a prime number.

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I call this the subtract-factor-subtract method, and AI calls this a prime factorization feedback loop.\nDespite my best efforts so far I can’t seem to prove it halts for all even numbers, nor can I see how it would be mathematically possible to not halt, such as a theoretical counterexample of a loop in which a composite number generated at a later step in the function is comprised only of previously-tested prime factors , but I’ve not yet encountered any counterexamples of this happening.

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There are quite a bit more interesting properties of this function I’d love to discuss (one such property is that even for numbers where the function takes many steps to halt, each composite number along the way contains at least one unique prime factor not found within any of the other composite numbers of all of the other steps), but I hope this post so far covers the highlights.

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I don’t have a specific question about this function, but here’s a few general questions that come to mind:

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  1. Is this function already known? I have searched the internet thoroughly and have not found anything close. Although honestly given my limited knowledge in mathematics I may not even know what to look for.
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  3. Is this function basically just as difficult to prove as the original Goldbach conjecture, or does this provide any meaningful progress?
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  5. Can anyone that’s more programming savvy than me test this for much larger numbers to find a potential counterexample? I have little to no programming knowledge and asked AI to run this function which it seemed to only be able to validate up to 50,000- with 0 counterexamples found.
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I understand that proving this function would also prove the Goldbach conjecture, however I believe disproving this function (or finding a counterexample) doesn’t necessarily disprove the Goldbach conjecture.

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Any and all feedback on this idea is welcome! Math is a big hobby of mine, and I hope to pursue it someday at a higher academic level. Thank you so much for reading!

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The purpose of this question is to collect examples where large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT have led to notable mathematical developments.

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The emphasis in this question is on LLMs, but answers about other machine-learning tools are also welcome.

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This question complements two questions that I asked before: Experimental mathematics leading to major advances (January 2010) and The use of computers leading to major mathematical advances II (June 2021). I think it will be useful to keep track of mathematical achievements based on LLMs or assisted by LLMs since it is considered a serious possibility that LLM's have the potential to change (and automatize) or at least assist research in mathematics.

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I relaxed the threshold from \"major\" (in the previous two questions) to \"notable\" to allow more answers.

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A related question specifically about Deep Mind is this: What mathematical problems can be attacked using DeepMind's recent mathematical breakthroughs? ; Another related question referring to deep learning is What are possible applications of deep learning to research mathematics? See also What mathematical problems can be attacked using DeepMind's recent mathematical breakthroughs? .

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1309848, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 4, "body_html": "There have been many similar questions on MO to this about the use of AI/machine learning in research math; see, e.g., mathoverflow.net/questions/463937 and other questions linked there.", "created_date": "2025-10-26 17:43:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1309850, "author_name": "Jochen Glueck", "author_id": 102946, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/102946/jochen-glueck", "score": 8, "body_html": "I haven't voted on the question (in either way), but I consider it likely that answers - if you get some - will lead to a lot of discussion regarding how significant the LLM contribution actually was.", "created_date": "2025-10-26 17:48:35Z" }, { "comment_id": 1310829, "author_name": "LSpice", "author_id": 2383, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2383/lspice", "score": 42, "body_html": "My instinct is to downvote the question, though I don't have any better justification than that I hate the intrusion of AI into every sphere, and would rather not see t here; but that's unreasonable personal bias, so I just won't vote. But it does seem nonsensioal to me that the question would be at 9 – 7 while both answers, reasonable as far as I can tell, are at 0 – 2. I hope downvoters will consider leaving a comment about what they think is an appropriate answer.", "created_date": "2025-10-26 20:27:21Z" }, { "comment_id": 1310957, "author_name": "Gil Kalai", "author_id": 1532, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1532/gil-kalai", "score": 9, "body_html": "I think that there should be a special badge for controversial questions :).", "created_date": "2025-10-27 19:59:04Z" }, { "comment_id": 1311032, "author_name": "LSpice", "author_id": 2383, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2383/lspice", "score": 4, "body_html": "Re, just to be clear, I meant my rant to express dissatisfaction with the ubiquity of AI, not with you or this question; I hope I gave no offence. Re, I thought there was, but searching just turned up a post Can we have a badge for controversy? which seems to indicate that the answer to the titular question is, or 15 years ago was, \"no.\"", "created_date": "2025-10-28 14:57:16Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 503160, "question_id": 502120, "score": 33, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Lior Silberman", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 2873, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-10-27 23:16:37Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Boris Alexeev and Dustin Mixon posted last week their paper Forbidden Sidon subsets of perfect difference sets, featuring a human-assisted proof, where they had an LLM generate the Lean formalization of their proof. In my view this is one of the promising uses of LLMs, because the verifier naturally guards against hallucinations.

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The problem is notable: they give a counterexample to a $1000 Erdös problem (as well as noting that Marshall Hall had published a counterexample before Erdös made the conjecture).

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My caveat: a human must still verify that the definitions and the statement of the main theorem are correct, lest the LLM generate a correct proof, but of a different theorem.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1311449, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 7, "body_html": "This is a very interesting paper. But I think it's important to point out that this use of ChatGPT was a mixed success. They do cite one instance where one of their intermediate results (Proposition 20) was formally proved by the LLM autonomously. On the other hand, they also say that their efforts at vibe coding the nearly trivial result that if f is a fixed point–free involution on a finite set S, then S has even cardinality was \"a multi-day struggle.\"", "created_date": "2025-10-31 14:32:08Z" }, { "comment_id": 1311450, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 4, "body_html": "IMO, what Alexeev and Mixon did was closer to \"autoformalization\" than to automated discovery of new theorems. Another impressive example of an autoformalization effort is the development by Math.Inc of a tool called Gauss, which helped them complete a challenging formalization project that Tao and Kontorovich had proposed but had not completed.", "created_date": "2025-10-31 14:39:16Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312277, "author_name": "NooneAtAll3", "author_id": 519775, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/519775/nooneatall3", "score": 2, "body_html": "it wasn't $1000 problem - it was a strong statement that would have proven $1000 problem had it been true. But even Erdos said this formulation was most likely false", "created_date": "2025-11-07 02:12:26Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312378, "author_name": "Kevin Buzzard", "author_id": 1384, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1384/kevin-buzzard", "score": 3, "body_html": "Note that in this particular case, the statement of the main theorem had already been formalized in a Lean repository of Erdos problems, maintained by Google DeepMind. In particular, in this case the statement had already been inspected by experts. You are absolutely right that in general people probably won't be so lucky.", "created_date": "2025-11-08 01:57:39Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312513, "author_name": "aorq", "author_id": 1079, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1079/aorq", "score": 3, "body_html": "The paper quotes Erdős clearly stating \"I offer a thousand dollars for a proof or disproof of this conjecture.\"", "created_date": "2025-11-09 13:32:48Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503135, "question_id": 502120, "score": 22, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Sudipta Roy", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 170, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-10-27 12:06:23Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Here is an example Counterexample to majority optimality in NICD with erasures

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From the abstract:

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We asked GPT-5 Pro to look for counterexamples among a public list of open problems (the Simons ``Real Analysis in Computer Science'' collection). After several numerical experiments, it suggested a counterexample for the Non-Interactive Correlation Distillation (NICD) with erasures question: namely, a Boolean function on 5 bits that achieves a strictly larger value of E|f(z)| than the 5-bit majority function when the erasure parameter is p=0.40. In this very short note we record the finding, state the problem precisely, give the explicit function, and verify the computation step by step by hand so that it can be checked without a computer. In addition, we show that for each fixed odd n the majority is optimal (among unbiased Boolean functions) in a neighborhood of p=0. We view this as a little spark of an AI contribution in Theoretical Computer Science: while modern Large Language Models (LLMs) often assist with literature and numerics, here a concrete finite counterexample emerged.

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This paper

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Sergey Avvakumov, Roman Karasev,\nTensor rank of the determinant and periodic triangulations of $\\mathbb{R}^n$

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https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.22333

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includes in the Acknowledgments \"We also thank ChatGPT 5 for pointing out that the lower bound in the proof of Theorem 1.5 can be stated in tensor language and is thus equal to the determinant’s tensor rank.\"

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1310831, "author_name": "Gil Kalai", "author_id": 1532, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1532/gil-kalai", "score": 3, "body_html": "Thanks, Zach! I knew the paper and I met Sergey today, but did not know about the role of ChatGPT :)", "created_date": "2025-10-26 20:35:06Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503575, "question_id": 502120, "score": 14, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028", "author_reputation": 26357, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2025-12-04 18:00:42Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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At the request of Gil Kalai, I'm converting a comment to an answer.

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The paper \"Mathematical exploration and discovery at scale\" by Bogdan Georgiev, Javier Gómez-Serrano, Terence Tao, and Adam Zsolt Wagner was just posted to the arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.02864.

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Below is the abstract of the paper.

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AlphaEvolve is a generic evolutionary coding agent that combines the generative capabilities of LLMs with automated evaluation in an iterative evolutionary framework that proposes, tests, and refines algorithmic solutions to challenging scientific and practical problems. In this paper we showcase AlphaEvolve as a tool for autonomously discovering novel mathematical constructions and advancing our understanding of long-standing open problems.\nTo demonstrate its breadth, we considered a list of 67 problems spanning mathematical analysis, combinatorics, geometry, and number theory. The system rediscovered the best known solutions in most of the cases and discovered improved solutions in several. In some instances, AlphaEvolve is also able to generalize results for a finite number of input values into a formula valid for all input values. Furthermore, we are able to combine this methodology with Deep Think and AlphaProof in a broader framework where the additional proof-assistants and reasoning systems provide automated proof generation and further mathematical insights.\nThese results demonstrate that large language model-guided evolutionary search can autonomously discover mathematical constructions that complement human intuition, at times matching or even improving the best known results, highlighting the potential for significant new ways of interaction between mathematicians and AI systems. We present AlphaEvolve as a powerful new tool for mathematical discovery, capable of exploring vast search spaces to solve complex optimization problems at scale, often with significantly reduced requirements on preparation and computation time.

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Some further developments are in the paper \"New Nikodym set constructions over finite fields\" by Terence Tao (https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.07721) whose abstract reads

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For any fixed dimension $d \\geq 3$ we construct a Nikodym set in $\\mathbb{F}_q^d$ of cardinality $q^d - \n(\\frac{d-2}{\\log 2} +1+o(1)) q^{d-1} \\log q$ in the limit $q \\to \\infty$, when $q$ is an odd prime power. This improves upon the naive random construction, which gives a set of cardinality\n$q^d - (d-1+o(1)) q^{d-1} \\log q$, and is new in the regime where $\\mathbb{F}_q$ has unbounded characteristic and $q$ not a perfect square. While the final proofs are completely human generated, the initial ideas of the construction were inspired by output from the tools AlphaEvolve and DeepThink. We also give a new construction of Nikodym sets in $\\mathbb{F}_q^2$ for $q$ a perfect square that match the existing bounds of $q^2 - q^{3/2} + O(q \\log q)$, assuming that $q$ is not the square of a prime $p \\equiv 3 \\pmod{4}$.

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And also in the paper \"Sum-difference exponents for boundedly many slopes, and rational complexity\" again by Terence Tao (https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.15135) whose abstract reads

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The dimension of Kakeya sets can be bounded using sum-difference exponents $\\mathrm{SD}(R;s)$ for various sets of rational slopes $R$ and output slope $s$; the arithmetic Kakeya conjecture, which implies the Kakeya conjecture in all dimensions, asserts that the infimum of such exponents is $1$. The best upper bound on this infimum currently is $1.67513\\dots$. In this note, inspired by numerical explorations from the tool AlphaEvolve, we study the regime where the cardinality of the set of slopes $R$ is bounded. In this regime, we establish that these exponents converge to $2$ at a rate controlled by the rational complexity of $s$ relative to $R$, which measures how efficiently $s$ can be expressed as a rational combination of slopes in $R$.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1312286, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 4, "body_html": "In a nutshell, the idea is to solve a combinatorial optimization problem by evolving code for generating combinatorial objects rather than evolving the combinatorial objects themselves. To do this, one needs to be able to make small random perturbations of the code while still having the code compile; this is where LLMs come in, since writing code is one thing LLMs are good at.", "created_date": "2025-11-07 05:05:22Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312320, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 1, "body_html": "@TimothyChow I believe the approach used to find better cap sets by DeepMind (discussed at mathoverflow.net/questions/463937) was along the same lines.", "created_date": "2025-11-07 13:17:53Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312323, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 1, "body_html": "Yes, AlphaEvolve is \"FunSearch 2.0\".", "created_date": "2025-11-07 13:50:51Z" }, { "comment_id": 1312699, "author_name": "Gil Kalai", "author_id": 1532, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/1532/gil-kalai", "score": 1, "body_html": "Thanks, Sam. There is a blogpost about the paper here: terrytao.wordpress.com/2025/11/05/…", "created_date": "2025-11-11 09:37:48Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503229, "question_id": 502120, "score": 13, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "littleO", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/38114", "author_reputation": 146, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2025-10-29 18:27:52Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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The paper “Point Convergence of Nesterov's Accelerated Gradient Method: An AI-Assisted Proof” by Uijeong Jang and Ernest Ryu, posted to Arxiv October 27, 2025, states in the abstract:

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The Nesterov accelerated gradient method, introduced in 1983, has been\na cornerstone of optimization theory and practice. Yet the question of\nits point convergence had remained open. In this work, we resolve this\nlongstanding open problem in the affirmative. The discovery of the\nproof was heavily assisted by ChatGPT, a proprietary large language\nmodel, and we describe the process through which its assistance was\nelicited.

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https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.23513

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See also this discussion by Damek Davis that helps put the result in perspective: https://x.com/damekdavis/status/1982529760505782510?s=46

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Scott Aaronson Phillip Harris, Freek Witteveen have a recent paper on the bounds of amplification of QMA (quantum Merlin-Arthur). A critical part of the paper involved a linear algebra trick suggested by GPT5. See Aaronson's blog entry here.

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There have been some notable recent examples of LLMs playing an important role in solving certain Erdős problems, e.g., Problem 124 and Problem 481 (although I think the latter turned out to be implied by a result of Klarner in 1982), which were purportedly solved entirely by Aristotle, and Problem 367, which was reduced by Wouter van Doorn to a lemma that was solved by Gemini Deepthink. While these are not famous Erdős problems and turned out to have relatively short and simple solutions, they differ from Olympiad problems in that the computer solved problems without known solutions.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1315639, "author_name": "Dustin G. Mixon", "author_id": 29873, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/29873/dustin-g-mixon", "score": 2, "body_html": "Relevant: xenaproject.wordpress.com/2025/12/05/…", "created_date": "2025-12-05 18:11:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1321557, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "score": 1, "body_html": "Erdős Problem 728 has now been solved by the LLM's GPT-5.2 Pro and Aristotle, operated by Kevin Barreto: arxiv.org/abs/2601.07421 ; see the discussion by Terence Tao", "created_date": "2026-01-24 22:34:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1322642, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 1, "body_html": "Another paper about Aletheia and Erdős problems: Semi-Autonomous Mathematics Discovery with Gemini: A Case Study on the Erdős Problems.", "created_date": "2026-02-04 00:48:31Z" }, { "comment_id": 1323638, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 1, "body_html": "Terry Tao just gave a talk at IPAM on this general topic, with an emphasis on solving Erdős problems with LLMs and Lean (although AlphaEvolve does get a mention). He gives some examples that are not already listed above.", "created_date": "2026-02-14 04:01:32Z" }, { "comment_id": 1324947, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 1, "body_html": "Here is another interesting Erdős problem example, where apparently the AI solved the whole thing: arxiv.org/abs/2602.21275", "created_date": "2026-02-26 03:10:08Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503113, "question_id": 502120, "score": 8, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Marco Ripà", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 2151, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-10-26 20:08:28Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Not exactly a notable result, but in my recent preprint Evaluation of GPT-5 on an Advanced Extension of Kashihara's Problem I describe how GPT-5 has been able to improve the general version of an extended combinatorial problem I originally solved in 2010.

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The abstract of\nEarly science acceleration experiments with GPT-5 by Sébastien Bubeck, Christian Coester, Ronen Eldan, Timothy Gowers, Yin Tat Lee,\nAlexandru Lupsasca, Mehtaab Sawhney, Robert Scherrer, Mark Sellke,\nBrian K. Spears, Derya Unutmaz, Kevin Weil, Steven Yin, and Nikita Zhivotovskiy states in part,\n\"Of note, this paper includes four new\nresults in mathematics (carefully verified by the human authors), underscoring how GPT-5\ncan help human mathematicians settle previously unsolved problems.\"

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1314051, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 14, "body_html": "I found this passage on pg. 29 really interesting: \"Our experience illustrates a pitfall in using AI: although GPT-5 possesses enormous internal knowledge and the capability to locate even more using the internet, it may not always report the original information sources accurately. This has the potential to deceive even seasoned researchers into thinking their findings are novel. We expect that our experience is not unique, and urge others to take special care in attribution when working with LLM-assisted proofs.\"", "created_date": "2025-11-21 04:11:30Z" }, { "comment_id": 1314059, "author_name": "Paata Ivanisvili", "author_id": 50901, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/50901/paata-ivanisvili", "score": 2, "body_html": "I agree. Even without AI, humans often believe they’ve discovered something new only to learn it was proved earlier by someone else. What’s interesting now is to understand how the rate of such misattributions from LLM-assisted work compares to the natural rate of human rediscovery", "created_date": "2025-11-21 07:16:00Z" }, { "comment_id": 1314078, "author_name": "Yemon Choi", "author_id": 763, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/763/yemon-choi", "score": 2, "body_html": "@SamHopkins I find the quote telling, although as someone who studied history as one of their subjects in the UK's 16-18 high-school specialisms, I find the apparent surprise of a lot of scientists and mathematicians in this regard to be a bit depressing. (Any historian worth their salt will know the distinction between primary and secondary sources and have done some basic training of source analysis, etc)", "created_date": "2025-11-21 14:23:12Z" }, { "comment_id": 1314083, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 2, "body_html": "@YemonChoi Yes. It shouldn't even require any formal training (just common sense) to know that you shouldn't just blindly copy a reference from someone else's bibliography without checking its accuracy, but of course many scientists and mathematicians have been doing this since time immemorial.", "created_date": "2025-11-21 15:19:43Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503560, "question_id": 502120, "score": 7, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 91241, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-11-06 14:57:04Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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I have hesitated to post this example because I don't think it's really a \"notable mathematical development\" as such, but after seeing the other answers, I think this one is worth mentioning.

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As reported in Scientific American, Epoch AI invited several mathematicians, including Ken Ono, to a meeting designed to generate challenge problems for \"FrontierMath\". Among other things, Ono came up with what he thought was a Ph.D.-thesis-level problem: \"What is the 5th power moment of Tamagawa numbers of elliptic curves over $\\mathbb{Q}$?\" To Ono's amazement, the AI autonomously solved the problem. You can read Ono's account on his Facebook page (also reproduced below), or listen to him talk about it here.

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Even if this is a cherry-picked example—the best one from the whole meeting—this strikes me as a very impressive achievement. But see also this tweet by Daniel Litt, who was also one of the invited mathematicians but was not too impressed when he read over the chat log.\n\"enter

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1312191, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 4, "body_html": "A similar project, but on a smaller scale and led by Christian Stump, for using PhD-level mathematics problems to benchmark AI is: math.science-bench.ai", "created_date": "2025-11-06 15:04:20Z" }, { "comment_id": 1323667, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 0, "body_html": "Here is another, somewhat similar project \"First Proof\" (1stproof.org): \"This project represents our preliminary efforts to develop an objective and realistic methodology for assessing the capabilities of AI systems to autonomously solve research-level math questions. After letting these ideas ferment in the community, we hope to produce a more structured benchmark.\"", "created_date": "2026-02-14 14:37:28Z" }, { "comment_id": 1324948, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 1, "body_html": "A paper from \"Aletheia\" (Google DeepMind) was just posted about solving 4/10 of the First Proof problems: arxiv.org/abs/2602.21201. Maybe I should post this as a separate answer.", "created_date": "2026-02-26 03:20:26Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325180, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 1, "body_html": "@SamHopkins Yes, First Proof is probably worth an answer, even though the problems were specifically chosen to be \"already solved.\" Daniel Litt has a very interesting blog post that discusses First Proof in some detail, and how it has nudged him slightly closer to \"believer\" and further from \"skeptic.\"", "created_date": "2026-02-28 13:44:57Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 504668, "question_id": 502120, "score": 7, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Vamsi", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 3453, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-12-05 06:27:12Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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This is a modest development and a modest use of AI, but nonetheless, since it may seem that only discretish mathematics is mentioned in most answers, the proof of Lemma 6 in https://arxiv.org/pdf/2511.06849 is due to ChatGPT 5. The techniques are standard but their use is elegant. Honestly, we were stressed out about the proof (when we discovered that an earlier one we had was flawed), and ChatGPT came to our rescue.

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here is a paper on bottleneck duality in flow networks with lattice coefficients from fall 2024.

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the appendix to this paper details how the main result and the proof were generated by GPT-o1-mini in september 2024. it was very difficult to get a correct proof at the time; current models nail a correct proof immediately.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1311053, "author_name": "darij grinberg", "author_id": 2530, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2530/darij-grinberg", "score": 0, "body_html": "This is funny! I once tried in vain to detropicalize max-flow-min-cut (you can find some traces of that on MO), while you have managed to tropicalize it even further (+ becomes max) and then extend it to distributive lattices :)", "created_date": "2025-10-28 17:54:26Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508759, "question_id": 502120, "score": 5, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 91241, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-04 20:58:44Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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The \"notability\" here may be less because of the problem itself, and more because Donald Knuth was involved. Knuth wrote:

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Shock! Shock! I learned yesterday that an open problem I’d been working on for several weeks had just\nbeen solved by Claude Opus 4.6— Anthropic’s hybrid reasoning model that had been released three weeks\nearlier! It seems that I’ll have to revise my opinions about “generative AI” one of these days. What a joy\nit is to learn not only that my conjecture has a nice solution but also to celebrate this dramatic advance in\nautomatic deduction and creative problem solving. I’ll try to tell the story briefly in this note.

\nHere’s the problem, which came up while I was writing about directed Hamiltonian cycles for a future\nvolume of The Art of Computer Programming:

\nConsider the digraph with $m^3$ vertices $ijk$ for $0 \\le i, j, k < m$, and three arcs from\neach vertex, namely to $i^+jk$, $ij^+k$, and $ijk^+$, where $i^+ = (i+1) \\bmod m$. Try to find\na general decomposition of the arcs into three directed $m^3$-cycles, for all $m > 2$.

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Knuth then went on to to describe how Filip Stappers used Claude interactively to discover a conjectural solution, which was then rigorously proved.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325654, "author_name": "darij grinberg", "author_id": 2530, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2530/darij-grinberg", "score": 1, "body_html": "Note that, despite his fame as a combinatorialist, Don Knuth is no stranger to heuristical and non-deterministic methods; there are sections about genetic algorithms and simulated annealing in TAoCP.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 21:11:23Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503191, "question_id": 502120, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Piyush Grover", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 1839, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-10-28 16:54:01Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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Using deep neural networks, Deepmind & collaborators numerically found a class of unstable singularities of the porous media and 3D Euler (with boundary) equations. Notable here is the fact that the level of precision of their solutions \"meets the stringent requirements for rigorous mathematical validation via computer-assisted proofs\" (quote from the paper).

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Paper here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.14185\nArticle: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/discovering-new-solutions-to-century-old-problems-in-fluid-dynamics/

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1311071, "author_name": "Geordie Williamson", "author_id": 919, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/919/geordie-williamson", "score": 6, "body_html": "Note that this is an application of neural networks, but not LLMs. (I think they tried to use AlphaEvolve, but this wasn't the main ingredient in the paper...)", "created_date": "2025-10-28 21:42:59Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 503192, "question_id": 502120, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Jalaj", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 1, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-10-28 17:09:11Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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A recent paper by Nagda, Raghavan, and Thakurta: \"Reinforced generation of combinatorial structures: Applications to complexity theory\"\nThey received help from AlphaEvolve to improve the best-known bound for Max-3CUT and Max-4CUT. Their idea seems quite general, so I would not be surprised if more complexity theory results would be improved.

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", "comments": [] }, { "answer_id": 504786, "question_id": 502120, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "JoS", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 711, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2025-12-09 07:22:35Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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The paper Solving a Research Problem in Mathematical Statistics with AI Assistance by Edgar Dobriban documents how GPT-5 Pro helped close a gap between upper and lower bounds in robust density estimation under Wasserstein contaminations.

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The mathematical results appear in version 3 of Minimax Statistical Estimation under Wasserstein Contamination (Chao–Dobriban). Notably, the math paper itself contains no mention of AI assistance—the role of GPT-5 is documented only in the separate meta-paper.

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The key AI contributions were:

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The meta-paper provides detailed transcripts and a balanced discussion of limitations (hallucinated references, glossed-over details requiring days to verify).

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See also the author's Twitter/X thread summarizing the experience.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1316041, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 3, "body_html": "\"over the last 15 years, the present author has acquired a good amount of experience with research in the mathematical sciences (reading and writing proofs, literature search), writing papers, and a good working knowledge of basic optimal transport, at the level of Figalli and Glaudo (2021). These skills took many years to develop, starting from the school level, through doctoral training, and continuing at the level of a faculty member. Without such skills, we feel that it would be effectively impossible to properly use current AI tools for advanced mathematical research.\"", "created_date": "2025-12-10 02:29:45Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 507767, "question_id": 502120, "score": 4, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 91241, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-02-03 18:41:27Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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I initiated a meta.MO discussion on whether it's worthwhile to continue posting answers here. Denis T suggested that a minimum threshold would be \"a defendable case that the same result could not be achieved by using Google a few times.\" Ravi Vakil commented that he has definitely seen such examples, so I think it is worth posting a link to the following paper, which was co-authored by Vakil.

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The abstract of The motivic class of the space of genus 0 maps to the flag variety by Jim Bryan, Balázs Elek, Freddie Manners, George Salafatinos, and Ravi Vakil says in part, \"The proof of this result was obtained in conjunction with Google Gemini and related tools. We briefly discuss this research interaction, which may be of independent interest. However, the treatment in this paper is entirely human-authored (aside from excerpts in an appendix which are clearly marked as such).\"

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The computational complexity paper \"Search versus Decision for $S_2^P$\" by Lance Fortnow writes in the acknowledgements:

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While the results are fully due to the author, this paper was mostly generated using the large\nlanguage model Gemini 3 Pro with prompting from the author. The author takes full responsibility\nfor its contents.

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EDIT (additional context):\nThe author further elaborated on Twitter/X: when asked \"It looks like you only told it the theorem statement and didn't give it the sketch.\" the author replied \"Yes, it came up with the proof on its own. Surprised me as well.\".

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1315462, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 3, "body_html": "That acknowledgement reads to me like it says the AI was not used in the mathematical development itself. It only helped write the paper.", "created_date": "2025-12-04 12:19:49Z" }, { "comment_id": 1315473, "author_name": "JoS", "author_id": 69630, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/69630/jos", "score": 1, "body_html": "I agree that the acknowledgement could be interpreted this way. However, the author clarified on Twitter/X: when asked \"It looks like you only told it the theorem statement and didn't give it the sketch.\" the author replied \"Yes, it came up with the proof on its own. Surprised me as well.\".", "created_date": "2025-12-04 14:08:12Z" }, { "comment_id": 1315480, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 1, "body_html": "You should edit your answer to clarify and include this then. I'm happy to withdraw my downvote if you do so.", "created_date": "2025-12-04 14:57:24Z" }, { "comment_id": 1315510, "author_name": "JoS", "author_id": 69630, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/69630/jos", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you, I have edited the answer accordingly!", "created_date": "2025-12-04 17:46:05Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 506692, "question_id": 502120, "score": 3, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 26357, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-01-06 03:43:18Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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(I know that there was some discussion of whether to keep answering this question with new examples, but this one seemed cool enough to me to include here.)

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In \"Bruhat intervals that are large hypercubes\" (https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.01235), Jordan Ellenberg, Nicolas Libedinsky, David Plaza, José Simental, and Geordie Williamson find large hypercubes (of order $n \\log n$, in particular, superlinear) inside of Bruhat graphs of the symmetric group $S_n$, a problem of interest for various connections including to cluster algebras of Richardson varieties and the combinatorial invariance conjecture for Kazhdan-Lusztig polynomials. They used the AlphaEvolve AI system to find these intervals - more specifically, they studied examples of algorithms based on data for small $n$, and then were able to give a natural \"interpretation\" to what the machine was doing (at least in the case of $n=2^m$ a power of two) to find a natural class of permutations (the \"dyadically well-distributed\" ones) which form a big hypercube interval in the Bruhat graph.

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The abstract of their paper is

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We study the question of finding big Bruhat intervals that are poset hypercubes in the symmetric group $S_n$. Using permutations suggested by AlphaEvolve (an evolutionary coding agent developed by Google DeepMind), we were led to an unusual situation in which the agent produced a pattern which performed well for the $n$ tested, and which we show works well for general $n$. When $n$ is a power of 2 we exhibit a hypercube of dimension $O(n\\log n)$, matching the largest possible dimension up to a constant multiple.\nFurthermore, we give an exact characterization of the vertices of this hypercube: they are precisely the dyadically well-distributed permutations, a simple digitwise property that already appeared in connection with Monte Carlo integration and mathematical finance. The maximal dimension of a Bruhat interval that is an hypercube in $S_n$ gives a lower bound (and possibly is equal to) the maximal possible coefficient of the second-highest degree term in the Kazhdan--Lusztig $R$-polynomial in $S_n$. As a surprising consequence, we obtain a new lower bound of order $n\\log n$ for the maximal number of frozen variables appearing in the cluster algebras attached to the open Richardson varieties in $S_n$, and a similar result for moduli spaces of embeddings of Bruhat graphs.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1319598, "author_name": "Sam Hopkins", "author_id": 25028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/25028/sam-hopkins", "score": 0, "body_html": "I will say that I find this sentence in the acknowledgments quite cryptic: \"This paper involves essential contributions from Adam Zsolt Wagner, who cannot be named as a coauthor for technical reasons.\"", "created_date": "2026-01-06 17:43:01Z" }, { "comment_id": 1322606, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 0, "body_html": "I'd guess it's some kind of technicality regarding funding or conflict of interest.", "created_date": "2026-02-03 18:30:48Z" }, { "comment_id": 1322644, "author_name": "Geordie Williamson", "author_id": 919, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/919/geordie-williamson", "score": 2, "body_html": "Yes, Google DeepMind requires GDM affiliated authors to get permission to be named as authors for papers where GDM resources were used. Adam made an essential contribution to this work.", "created_date": "2026-02-04 01:13:06Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508776, "question_id": 502120, "score": 2, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "liuyao", "author_id": null, "author_url": "", "author_reputation": 730, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-05 09:46:23Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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This does not seem to be widely circulating (not by one of the big tech companies), that the lower bounds of the kissing numbers in dimensions 25 through 31 have been broken, using a two-player game-theoretic/reinforcement-learning approach.

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https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.13391

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The table on wikipedia and the one maintained by Henry Cohn have been updated.

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", "comments": [] } ] }, { "question_id": 508737, "title": "Ordinals embeddable into the collection of strictly increasing functions $f:\\omega\\to\\omega$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508737/ordinals-embeddable-into-the-collection-of-strictly-increasing-functions-f-ome", "score": 6, "view_count": 236, "answer_count": 2, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 508740, "tags": "set-theory;lo.logic;order-theory;lattice-theory;ordinal-numbers", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 09:24:58Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let $\\text{I}(\\omega)$ denote the collection of strictly increasing functions $f:\\omega\\to\\omega$ and consider the poset $\\big(\\text{I}(\\omega),\\leq_\\omega\\big)$ where $f \\leq_\\omega g$ for $f, g \\in \\text{I}(\\omega)$ if and only if $f(n) \\leq g(n)$ for all $n\\in \\omega$.

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What is the smallest ordinal not embeddable into $\\text{I}(\\omega)$?

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The answer is $\\omega_1$, the least uncountable ordinal.

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Indeed, suppose $f_\\alpha,\\alpha<\\omega_1$ is an increasing sequence in $I(\\omega)$. I claim that for each $n$, the value $f_\\alpha(n)$ eventually stabilizes. Indeed, if not, let $\\alpha_k$ be the least such that $f_{\\alpha_k}(n)>k$. Since $\\omega_1$ is regular, there is a countable ordinal $\\alpha>\\alpha_k$ for all $k$. But then $f_\\alpha(n)>k$ for all $k$, which is impossible.

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Therefore for each $n$ there is an ordinal $\\beta_n$ such that $f_\\alpha(n)=f_{\\beta_n}(n)$ for all $\\alpha>\\beta_n$. But using regularity once again and taking $\\beta>\\beta_n$ for all $n$, we find $f_\\alpha=f_\\beta$ for all $\\alpha>\\beta$, which is a contradiction.

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Conversely, for any countable ordinal $\\eta$ there is an order-preserving embedding $c:\\eta\\to\\Bbb Q$, and we can assume $c(\\alpha)>1$ for all $\\alpha\\in\\eta$. Setting $f_\\alpha(n)=\\lfloor c(\\alpha)n\\rfloor$ we get an order-embedding $\\eta\\to I(\\omega),\\alpha\\mapsto f_\\alpha$.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325643, "author_name": "Noah Schweber", "author_id": 8133, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/8133/noah-schweber", "score": 5, "body_html": "+1, and a footnote to the OP/other readers: if we weaken our partial ordering to eventual domination ($f\\le g$ iff $\\exists n\\forall m>n(f(m)\\le g(m))$) then the argument breaks down and in fact a very different situation occurs: any countable set of functions has a common upper bound in this weaker sense (given $\\{f_i:i\\in\\omega\\}$ consider $g:x\\mapsto\\sum_{i<x}f_i(x)$), and so we definitely can embed $\\omega_1$. Indeed, at this point we wind up in the setting of cardinal characteristics of the continuum. (The same occurs with $\\mathcal{P}(\\omega)$ versus $\\mathcal{P}(\\omega)/fin$).", "created_date": "2026-03-04 17:22:10Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325647, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 0, "body_html": "@NoahSchweber Indeed, I have in the past investigated that question (see an archive of my old blog). I have shown that, letting $\\mathfrak b$ be the bounding number, the supremum of embeddable ordinals is at least $\\mathfrak b^+$. I was considering mentioning it in the post, but it was going a bit far afield.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 17:57:41Z" } ] }, { "answer_id": 508756, "question_id": 508737, "score": 8, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "bof", "author_id": 43266, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/43266/bof", "author_reputation": 15434, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-04 20:33:11Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-05 09:24:58Z", "body_html": "
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Theorem. A linearly ordered set $A$ is embeddable in $I(\\omega)$ if and only if $A$ is embeddable in $\\mathbb R$.

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Proof. As in Wojowu's answer we can embed $[1,\\infty)$ into $I(\\omega)$ by setting $f_t(n)=\\lfloor nt\\rfloor$ for $1\\le t\\lt\\infty$ and $n\\lt\\omega$. For the converse, choose an injection $\\pi:\\omega\\times\\omega\\to\\omega$ and define a map $\\varphi:I(\\omega)\\to\\mathbb R$ by setting\n$$\\varphi(f)=\\sum_{n\\lt f(m)}2^{-\\pi(m,n)}.$$\nSince $f\\lt_\\omega g\\implies\\varphi(f)\\lt\\varphi(g)$, every chain in $I(\\omega)$ is embeddable in $\\mathbb R$.

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Corollary 1. Every countable linear order is embeddable in $I(\\omega)$.

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Proof. By a theorem of Cantor every countable linear order is embeddable in $\\mathbb Q$ and therefore in $\\mathbb R$. Alternatively, if $A$ is a linearly ordered set and $i:A\\to\\omega$ is injective, then the map\n$$a\\mapsto\\sum_{x\\lt a}2^{-i(x)}$$\nis an order-embedding of $A$ into $\\mathbb R$.

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Corollary 2. $\\omega_1$ is not embeddable in $I(\\omega)$.

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Proof. $\\omega_1$ is not embeddable in $\\mathbb R$.

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Remark. For posets $P$ and $Q$ let us write $P\\le Q$ if there is a map $\\varphi:P\\to Q$ such that $x\\lt y\\implies\\varphi(x)\\lt\\varphi(y)$. The theorem was proved by showing that $\\mathbb R\\le I(\\omega)$ and $I(\\omega)\\le\\mathbb R$. Hence, for any poset $P$, we have $P\\le I(\\omega)$ if and only if $P\\le\\mathbb R$.

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Motivated by Zeilberger's series\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty\\frac{21k-8}{k^3\\binom{2k}k^3}=\\zeta(2)$$\nand Questions 508743 and 508768\nI have discovered several identities involving higher-order derivatives of the function\n$$Z(k):=\\frac{(21k-8)\\Gamma(k+1)^6}{k^3\\Gamma(2k+1)^3}.$$\nNamely,\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty Z'(k)=-6\\zeta(3),\\tag{1}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty Z''(k)=\\frac{57}2\\zeta(4),\\tag{2}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty Z^{(3)}(k)=18\\pi^2\\zeta(3)-324\\zeta(4),\\tag{3}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty Z^{(4)}(k)=\\frac{1959}2\\zeta(6)-432\\zeta(3)^2,\\tag{4}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty Z^{(5)}(k)=19440\\zeta(2)\\zeta(5)-540\\zeta(3)\\zeta(4)-31860\\zeta(7),\\tag{5}$$\nand\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty Z^{(6)}(k)=31104\\zeta(5,3)+38880\\zeta(2)\\zeta(3)^2-77760\\zeta(3)\\zeta(5)-\\frac{84807}4\\zeta(8),\\tag{6}$$\nwhere $$\\zeta(5,3):=\\sum_{k_1>k_2>0}\\frac1{k_1^5k_2^3}=0.0377\\ldots.$$

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Note that $(1)$ is equivalent to a formula obtained by K. C. Au in 2022.

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QUESTION. Are the identities $(2)-(6)$ new? If some of them are new, how to prove them?

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Your comments are welcome!

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Motivated by Question 508743 and the known identities

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$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty\\frac{(-1)^k}{k^3\\binom{2k}k}=-\\frac25\\zeta(3)\\ \\ \\text{and}\\ \\ \\sum_{k=1}^\\infty\\frac1{k^4\\binom{2k}k}=\\frac{17}{36}\\zeta(4),$$\nI found the following identities involving higher-order derivatives of the functions\n$$f(k)=\\frac{e^{\\pi ik}}{k^3\\binom{2k}k}=\\frac{e^{\\pi ik}\\Gamma(k+1)^2}{\\Gamma(2k+1)}\n\\ \\ \\text{and}\\ \\ g(k)=\\frac1{k^4\\binom{2k}k}=\\frac{\\Gamma(k+1)^2}{k^4\\Gamma(2k+1)}.$$

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Conjecture 1. We have\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f'(k)=\\frac{9}{5}\\zeta(4)-\\frac{2}5\\pi\\zeta(3)i.\\tag{I1}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f''(k)=\\frac{\\pi^5}{25}i+\\frac{8}{15}\\pi^2\\zeta(3)-\\frac{52}5\\zeta(5).\\tag{I2}$$

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Conjecture II. We have\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g'(k)=-\\frac{22}9\\zeta(5),\\tag{II1}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g''(k)=\\frac{3073}{216}\\zeta(6),\\tag{II2}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g^{(3)}(k)=\\frac{176\\zeta(2)\\zeta(5)-1423\\zeta(7)}{12},\\tag{II3}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g^{(4)}(k)=\\frac{752537\\zeta(8)+25344\\zeta(5,3)}{1080},\\tag{II4}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g^{(5)}(k)=660\\zeta(4)\\zeta(5)+\\frac{7115}3\\zeta(2)\\zeta(7)-\\frac{283010}{27}\\zeta(9),\\tag{II5}$$\nwhere\n$$\\zeta(5,3):=\\sum_{k_1>k_2>0}\\frac1{k_1^5k_2^3}=0.0377\\ldots.$$

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QUESTION. Are the conjectural identities known? If some of them are new, how to prove them?

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325677, "author_name": "Zhi-Wei Sun", "author_id": 124654, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/124654/zhi-wei-sun", "score": 0, "body_html": "(II1) is equivalent to (3.15) of my 2015 paper available from maths.nju.edu.cn/~zwsun/165s.pdf which was confirmed by J. Ablinger in his 2017 paper available from tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10586458.2015.1116028 .", "created_date": "2026-03-05 02:15:34Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325683, "author_name": "Deyi Chen", "author_id": 287674, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/287674/deyi-chen", "score": 0, "body_html": "$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g^{(4)}(k)=\\frac{352 \\zeta(3) \\zeta(5)}{15} + \\frac{727193}{1080} \\zeta(8) - \\frac{352}{15} \\zeta(3, 5). $$", "created_date": "2026-03-05 04:02:44Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325685, "author_name": "Deyi Chen", "author_id": 287674, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/287674/deyi-chen", "score": 0, "body_html": "$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty g^{(6)}(k)=\\frac{29703837}{560} \\zeta(10) + \\frac{5730 \\zeta(5)^2}{7} + \\frac{14230 \\zeta(7, 3)}{7} - 704 \\zeta(2) \\zeta(5, 3).$$", "created_date": "2026-03-05 04:21:46Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325686, "author_name": "Zhi-Wei Sun", "author_id": 124654, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/124654/zhi-wei-sun", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks. I did also find (II4) and have just added it.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 04:26:59Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325698, "author_name": "eddy ardonne", "author_id": 58345, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/58345/eddy-ardonne", "score": 1, "body_html": "@Zhi-WeiSun But you forgot to update the lower bound, the summation should read $k_1 > k_2 > 0$.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 07:29:11Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508775, "title": "Characterization of spacelike simplices in $1+n$-dimensional Minkowski", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508775/characterization-of-spacelike-simplices-in-1n-dimensional-minkowski", "score": 2, "view_count": 13, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "mg.metric-geometry;convex-geometry;simplicial-stuff;special-relativity;minkowski-space", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 09:21:22Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let $\\mathbb M^n = \\mathbb R^{1,n-1}$ be $n$-dimensional Minkowski space and $\\eta\\colon \\mathbb M^n \\times \\mathbb M^n \\to \\mathbb R $ the corresponding indefinite inner product.

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How do I see for a given $n$-simplex $\\Delta \\subseteq \\mathbb R^{1,n-1}$ whether it is space like. More precisely, let $x_1, \\dots, x_n \\in \\mathbb R^{1,n-1}$ and let $\\Delta :=\\operatorname{Conv}(\\{x_1,\\dots,x_n\\})$ be the convex hull. How do I know $\\Delta$ is spacelike, i.e., $\\forall x,y \\in \\Delta\\colon \\eta(x-y, x-y) \\geq 0$ (using signature $(-+\\dots+)$).

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What I am looking for, is an easy way to see whether this is the case given the points $x_1,\\dots, x_n$.

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For $n = 2$ it is sufficient that $\\eta(x_1-x_2, x_1-x_2)\\geq 0$. But for higher dimensions it is not sufficient to show, that the points $\\{x_1,\\dots, x_n\\}$ are pairwise spacelike. E.g., the points\n$$\\begin{pmatrix}\n0\\\\2\\\\0\n\\end{pmatrix},\\begin{pmatrix}\n0\\\\-2\\\\0\n\\end{pmatrix},\n\\begin{pmatrix}\n1\\\\0\\\\0\n\\end{pmatrix}\n\\in \\mathbb R^{1,3}\n$$\nare clearly pairwise spacelike but there convex hull contains a timelike direction.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325714, "author_name": "Dmitrii Korshunov", "author_id": 13842, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/13842/dmitrii-korshunov", "score": 0, "body_html": "Pick any vertex $x_1$ of your simplex, then it is a problem to decide if the linear space spanned by $x_i-x_1$ is positive definite.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 10:32:51Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508621, "title": "Primes of the form $x^2+ny^2$ when the class group is $C_2C_4$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508621/primes-of-the-form-x2ny2-when-the-class-group-is-c-2c-4", "score": 3, "view_count": 201, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "nt.number-theory;algebraic-number-theory;class-field-theory", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 07:44:40Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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In my previous question, I asked about the quadratic forms of class number 8. While it answered my question about how to get the correct splitting polynomial, I'm still curious about conditions on the representable primes.

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Specificially, I would like to know a proof (or counterexample) to the conjectures:

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Conjecture 1: If $q$ and $r$ are $5$(mod $8$), with $q=a^2+b^2$ and $r=c^2+d^2$, with $a+bi$ and $c+di$ primary ($b,d>0$ are even and $a+b$ and $c+d$ are congruent to $1$ mod $4$) and $h(-qr)=8$, then $p=x^2+qry^2$ if and only if $q, r,$ and $(a+bi)(c+di)$ are quadratic residues mod $p$.

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For an example: $q=5$ and $r=13$. The corresponding primary Gaussian primes are $-1+2i$ and $3+2i$. Multiplying them you get $-7+4i$. This is what must be a quadratic residue mod $p$ (along with $q$ and $r$) so that $p=x^2+qry^2$

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EDIT: The main thing that concerns me is dealing with the $C_4$ part of the form class group. The remaining cases can be split with congruence conditions. For example, for $n=65$, as Will Jagy pointed out, the main cases to distinguish are $x^2+65y^2$ and $9x^2+8xy+9y^2$. I conjecture that the quadratic residuacity of $(a+bi)(c+di)$ is enough to distinguish them. This is what I'm asking for a proof of.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325151, "author_name": "Will Jagy", "author_id": 3324, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3324/will-jagy", "score": 0, "body_html": "I'm fiddling with $x^2 + 65 y^2.$ What do you say happens? Oh, not cyclic, all have exponent 4.", "created_date": "2026-02-28 02:54:29Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325152, "author_name": "Thomas Blok", "author_id": 109590, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/109590/thomas-blok", "score": 0, "body_html": "$qr=65 or 145$ were my test cases. I managed to verify for low primes that if $7+4i$ and $5$ are quadratic residues mod $p$, then $p=x^2+65y^2$. Similarly, for $qr=145$, $1+12i$ needs to be a quadratic residue. It's weird, you have to multiply the primary $a+bi$ and $c+di$, otherwise you get the wrong answer (e.g. for $qr=65$, using $8+i$ fails).", "created_date": "2026-02-28 03:03:37Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325154, "author_name": "Will Jagy", "author_id": 3324, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3324/will-jagy", "score": 0, "body_html": "Alright. The competition (to $x^2 + 65 y^2$) is $9 x^2 + 8xy + 9 y^2.$ The first few such primes are $ 29, 61, 181, 521.$ What happens to your various modular quantities for these?", "created_date": "2026-02-28 03:15:27Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325171, "author_name": "Emil Jeřábek", "author_id": 12705, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/12705/emil-je%c5%99%c3%a1bek", "score": 0, "body_html": "Does $C_2C_4$ mean $C_2\\times C_4$?", "created_date": "2026-02-28 11:13:49Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325227, "author_name": "Thomas Blok", "author_id": 109590, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/109590/thomas-blok", "score": 1, "body_html": "@WillJagy, $5$ and $13$ are quadratic residues modulo $p$ for all those numbers. But $7+4i$ isn't a quadratic residue modulo any of them. In other words, the polynomial $x^4-14x^2+65$ doesn't split completely for the $9x^2+8xy+9y^2$ primes, but does for the $x^2+65y^2$ primes.", "created_date": "2026-02-28 20:31:55Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508743, "title": "Some series related to $\\zeta(3),\\zeta(4),\\zeta(5),\\zeta(6),\\zeta(7)$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508743/some-series-related-to-zeta3-zeta4-zeta5-zeta6-zeta7", "score": 11, "view_count": 356, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "nt.number-theory;sequences-and-series;riemann-zeta-function;combinatorial-identities", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 07:19:54Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let\n$$f(k)=\\frac{1}{k^2\\binom{2 k}{k}},$$\nand\n$$f^{(n)}(k)=\\frac{d^n}{dk^n} f(k).$$\nInspired by Question 508718, I discovered the following identities

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$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(1)}(k)=-\\frac{4}{3}\\zeta \\! \\left(3\\right),\\tag{1}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(2)}(k)=\\frac{31}{6}\\zeta(4),\\tag{2}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(3)}(k)=-38 \\zeta \\! \\left(5\\right)+8 \\zeta \\! \\left(2\\right) \\zeta \\! \\left(3\\right),\\tag{3}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(4)}(k)=-32 \\zeta \\! \\left(3\\right)^{2}+\\frac{979}{6}\\zeta \\! \\left(6\\right),\\tag{4}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(5)}(k)=760 \\zeta \\! \\left(2\\right) \\zeta \\! \\left(5\\right)+360 \\zeta \\! \\left(3\\right) \\zeta \\! \\left(4\\right)-2465 \\zeta \\! \\left(7\\right)\n.\\tag{5}$$

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Since $f^{(1)}(k)=-\\frac{2}{k^{3}{\\binom{2 k}{k}}}-2\\frac{H_{2k}-H_{k}}{k^2\\binom{2k}k}$ , we can deduce that $(1)$ is a direct corollary of I. J. Zucker's series (2.9) $\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty \\frac{1}{k^3\\binom{2 k}{k}}=\\sqrt{3}\\frac{\\pi}{2}L_{-3}(2)-\\frac{4}{3}L_{1}(3)\n $ and Question 508718.

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My questions:

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  1. Are the identities (2)-(5) known?
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  3. How can they be proven?
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  5. What is the exact value of $\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(n)}(k)$ for $n\\geq 6$?
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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325658, "author_name": "Henri Cohen", "author_id": 81776, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/81776/henri-cohen", "score": 4, "body_html": "$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(6)}(k)=(110483/12)\\zeta(8)-5088\\zeta(3)\\zeta(5)+960\\zeta(2)\\zeta(3)^2-672\\zeta(3,5)$$ where $\\zeta(3,5)$ is a multizeta value. I suspect all are linear combinations of MZVs. Of course, I assume as yours, this is numerical.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:11:20Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325659, "author_name": "eddy ardonne", "author_id": 58345, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/58345/eddy-ardonne", "score": 0, "body_html": "@Henri, do you have some intuition for when a multizeta value is needed? For $n = 7$, this is not the case.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:16:28Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325663, "author_name": "Henri Cohen", "author_id": 81776, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/81776/henri-cohen", "score": 0, "body_html": "This has been thoroughly explored by the experts (not me) who can, at least conjecturally, say how many primitive MZVs must be added.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:57:59Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325681, "author_name": "Deyi Chen", "author_id": 287674, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/287674/deyi-chen", "score": 0, "body_html": "$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(8)}(k)=\\frac{13510461 \\zeta(10)}{10} - 967680 \\zeta(3) \\zeta(7) + 322560 \\zeta(2) \\zeta(3) \\zeta(5) + 120960 \\zeta(4) \\zeta(3)^2 - 618480 \\zeta(5)^2 - 37632 \\zeta(2) \\zeta(5, 3) + 49200 \\zeta(7, 3) $$", "created_date": "2026-03-05 03:13:49Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508761, "question_id": 508743, "score": 5, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "eddy ardonne", "author_id": 58345, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/58345/eddy-ardonne", "author_reputation": 673, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:06:53Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-05 07:19:54Z", "body_html": "
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This is a partial answer to question 3., that does not fit as a comment. Given the form of the relations for $1\\leq n \\leq 5$, it is natural to write the following ansatz for $n=6$\n$$\n\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(6)}(k) = c_0 \\zeta(8) + c_1 \\zeta(5)\\zeta(3) + c_2 \\zeta(3)^2 \\zeta(2)\n$$\nand find the appropriate rational $c_i$. This problem can be solved by an en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_relation_algorithm, as was suggested to me in this comment to this question (409365).

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I tried this using Mathematica, which implements an integer relation algorithm via LatticeReduce[]. To my surprise, I did not find a solution for the case $n=6$, even when using 300 digit precision. However, for $n=7$, I found the following relation (for which 100 digit precision suffices):\n$$\n\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(7)}(k) = -\\frac{974470}{3} \\zeta(9) + 103530 \\zeta(7) \\zeta(2) + 33180 \\zeta(6) \\zeta(3) + 71820 \\zeta(5) \\zeta(4) - 4480 \\zeta(3)^3 \\ .\n$$

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These results suggest that at least for $n=6$, the structure for the sum $\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty f^{(n)}(k)$ as suggested by the results of the OP is not general enough. I did not (yet) try cases $n\\geq 8$, so the general picture is not clear at the moment.

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Edit As pointed out by Henri Cohen in this comment, in general one needs the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_zeta_function.

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I am interested in exploring polynomial matings via the Medusa algorithm, as described by Christian Henriksen, David Farris, and Kuan Ju Liu at Cornell University (1998) Cornell dynamics webpage.

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The original programs were written in C++ for Unix systems, with a minimal interface, and the source code is available as Medusa.tar.gz.

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Are there any known ready-to-run implementations of the Medusa algorithm for Windows, or any maintained ports of these programs to non-Unix systems? Alternatively, are there modern open-source equivalents for experimenting with polynomial matings that are compatible with typical desktop environments?

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Thanks

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1324993, "author_name": "Michael Engelhardt", "author_id": 134299, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/134299/michael-engelhardt", "score": 4, "body_html": "macOS is a Unix system.", "created_date": "2026-02-26 14:59:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325053, "author_name": "Peter Taylor", "author_id": 46140, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/46140/peter-taylor", "score": 0, "body_html": "The Windows Subsystem for Linux gives a way to execute programs written for *nix on a Windows machine. It's the recommended way to run Sage on a Windows machine nowadays, so the Sage installation instructions up to but not including the curl call will get you most of the way there. The only thing you might be missing at that point is to install the C compiler and make.", "created_date": "2026-02-27 08:31:39Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325059, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "score": 2, "body_html": "I tried to compile the source code but failed; it's using obsolete C++ headers and memory‑management functions, requiring significant updates.", "created_date": "2026-02-27 10:51:49Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508773, "question_id": 508468, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "LegionMammal978", "author_id": 101028, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/101028/legionmammal978", "author_reputation": 741, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-05 06:30:00Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-05 06:56:33Z", "body_html": "
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I have uploaded a set of patches at https://github.com/LegionMammal978/medusa-matings to allow the original source code to be built on modern systems. I have tested this workflow on Windows 11:

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  3. Install the necessary build dependencies with pacman -S git make mingw-w64-ucrt-x86_64-gcc patch.
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  5. Download and build the tools with these commands:\n
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  7. Use the tools via ./mate_interact, ./draw_pb_sphere, ./drawpullback, or ./find_matings according to their documentation.
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  9. To view the .eps files generated by draw_pb_sphere and drawpullback, you can install Ghostscript with pacman -S mingw-w64-ucrt-x86_64-ghostscript and convert to PDF with ps2pdf image.eps image.pdf. Alternatively, you can use any other PostScript tool available for Windows.
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Using this, I have been able to reproduce the five example pictures available from https://pi.math.cornell.edu/~dynamics/Matings/Pics/index.html, the first one nearly exactly and the other four exactly. Here are the parameters I deduced:

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325694, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "score": 0, "body_html": "thank you for this service to the community!", "created_date": "2026-03-05 07:07:44Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 508771, "title": "Quandle and homeomorphism of spaces", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508771/quandle-and-homeomorphism-of-spaces", "score": 0, "view_count": 20, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "quandles", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 06:23:58Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Does a homeomorphism between pairs of spaces induce an isomorphism of the fundamental quandle?

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325692, "author_name": "Jim Conant", "author_id": 9417, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/9417/jim-conant", "score": 1, "body_html": "AFAIK, the fundamental quandle is not defined for an arbitrary space, just for knot complements.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 06:33:51Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325693, "author_name": "good bye", "author_id": 566232, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/566232/good-bye", "score": 0, "body_html": "Sorry, here I assume that the pair of spaces satisfies the conditions required to define the fundamental quandle.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 06:36:46Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325701, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "Do you mean as opposed to being isotopic knot complements? If the fundamental quandle of a knot complement is a functor on the full subcategory of Top on the spaces where they are defined, then the answer is yes.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 08:24:46Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325703, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "I'm not sure if Cattabriga, A., Horvat, E. Knot Quandle Decompositions. Mediterr. J. Math. 17, 98 (2020). doi.org/10.1007/s00009-020-01530-6 helps, but maybe. The abstract starts We show that the fundamental quandle defines a functor from the oriented tangle category to a suitably defined quandle category.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 08:27:01Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508707, "title": "Existence of limit intersection in an $\\omega_1$-chain of almost decreasing subsets of $\\omega$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508707/existence-of-limit-intersection-in-an-omega-1-chain-of-almost-decreasing-subs", "score": 10, "view_count": 216, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 508741, "tags": "set-theory;infinite-combinatorics", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 21:18:35Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Is it consistent that there exists a $\\subseteq^*$-decreasing chain $(X_\\alpha)_{\\alpha<\\omega_1}$ of infinite subsets of $\\omega$ such that for all ordinals $\\alpha_0 < \\alpha_1 < \\cdots < \\alpha_\\omega$ with $\\alpha_\\omega = \\sup_{n<\\omega} \\alpha_n$, $\\bigcap_{\\gamma \\leq \\omega} X_{\\alpha_\\gamma}$ is finite?

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Note that if $(X_\\alpha)_{\\alpha<\\omega_1}$ has a pseudo-intersection (i.e. some infinite $Y \\subseteq \\omega$ such that $Y \\subseteq^* X_\\alpha$ for all $\\alpha$), then this chain doesn't have such a sequence of ordinals. Therefore, $\\omega_1 < \\mathfrak{t}$ implies the non-existence of such a chain.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325511, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 1, "body_html": "What is $\\subseteq^*$?", "created_date": "2026-03-03 14:06:43Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325512, "author_name": "Clement Yung", "author_id": 146831, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/146831/clement-yung", "score": 2, "body_html": "@Wojowu Almost containment. $X \\subseteq^* Y$ if $X \\setminus Y$ is finite.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 14:07:48Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325518, "author_name": "Will Brian", "author_id": 70618, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/70618/will-brian", "score": 4, "body_html": "If you had said $\\gamma < \\omega$ rather than $\\gamma \\leq \\omega$ in the intersection at the end, then I would be able to prove the answer is no. I'm guessing that maybe you know this already, and that's why you phrased the question exactly as you did.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 15:23:11Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508741, "question_id": 508707, "score": 8, "is_accepted": true, "author_name": "Jonathan Schilhan", "author_id": 103802, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/103802/jonathan-schilhan", "author_reputation": 483, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-04 11:34:30Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 21:18:35Z", "body_html": "
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No.

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If given $(X_\\alpha)_{\\alpha < \\omega_1}$, then there is a ccc forcing $\\mathbb{P}$ that adds a pseudointersection $Y$. In the forcing extension, the sets $A_n = \\{ \\alpha < \\omega_1 : Y \\setminus X_\\alpha \\subseteq n \\}$ form a countable cover of $\\omega_1$ (which is still the real $\\omega_1$), so one of them is stationary. Say $A_m$ is stationary. This means that there is $\\alpha \\in A_m \\cap \\lim A_m$ and in particular there is an increasing sequence $\\langle \\alpha_n : n \\leq \\omega \\rangle$ completely contained within $A_m$ with $\\alpha = \\alpha_\\omega = \\sup \\alpha_n$ and $\\bigcap_{n \\leq \\omega} X_{\\alpha_n}$ is infinite, as it contains $Y \\setminus m$.

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Now this all happens in the forcing extension. But you have names in the ground model for these objects and all that it suffices to do is to define a decreasing sequence $(p_n)$ in $\\mathbb{P}$ deciding more and more of the $\\alpha_n$'s, ensuring these become cofinal in what $\\alpha_\\omega < \\omega_1$ has been decided to be, and deciding bigger and bigger naturals that should be in the intersection of these $X_{\\alpha_n}$, $n \\leq \\omega$.

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I search to prove ($n\\in \\mathbb{N}_0$)

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$$ |f_n(x)| \\le 1 \\text{ for } x\\in[0,1]$$

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$$\nf_n(x) = 1 + \\sum_{j=1}^n k_{n,j}x^{1/j}\n\\quad\n\\text{ with }\n\\quad\nk_{n,j}=(-1)^{n+j+1} \\binom{n}{j} \\binom{n+j}{j}.$$

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I would be happy with any $n$-independent bound. There is a strong numerical evidence the bounding is true. Two remarks:

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  1. Functions $f_n$ fulfill $\\int_0^1 f_n(x^{m+1})dx = 0$ for $m<n$ ($m,n\\in \\mathbb{N}_0)$ of which I have a proof.
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The coefficients become large and a large global (non-telescopic) cancellation occurs.\nI would prefer a computational/algebraic/technical proof rather than a highly theoretical (functional analysis, Chebyshev/Muntz Systems), although I doubt such a proof (i.e. algrebraic) is feasible (I cannot find such even for Legendre polynomials).

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Update:

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First, I want to lower my expectations, I would by happy with any bound that rises slower than a power, e.g. logarithmic $|f_m (x)|<K\\log(m)$, but valid for all $x$ from the closed interval $[0,1]$. Quickly one realizes the problem comes from the neighborhood of $x=0$ ,where oscillations accumulate.

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Here are some possibly useful equations (established by AI, checked by me):

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$$\nf_{n}(x)-f_{n-1}(x)=nx\\left[f'_{n}(x)+f'_{n-1}(x)\\right]\\text{ for }n\\ge2. \n$$\n$$\nxf'_{n}(x)=(-1)^{n}+\\frac{1}{n}f_{n}(x)+\\sum_{k=1}^{n-1}(-1)^{n-k}\\frac{2k+1}{k(k+1)}f_{k}(x)\n$$\n$$\nf_{n}(x)=-f_{n-1}(x)+\\frac{2}{n}\\,x^{1/n}\\int_{x}^{1}t^{-1-1/n}\\,f_{n-1}(t)\\,dt\n$$\n$$\n\\int_{0}^{1}f_{n}^{2}(x)dx+\\frac{n}{2}\\int_{0}^{1}\\bigl(f_{n}(x)+f_{n-1}(x)\\bigr)^{2}dx=\\int_{0}^{1}f_{n-1}^{2}(x)dx\n$$\n$$\n\\int_{0}^{1}f_{n}^{2}(x)dx\\le\\int_{0}^{1}f_{1}^{2}(x)dx=\\frac{1}{3}.\n$$\n$$\n\\left|f_{n}(x)\\right|\\le C_{\\varepsilon}(1+\\ln n) \\text{ for } x\\in[\\varepsilon,1]\n$$

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Update 2:

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The functions $(-1)^nf_n(x^\\alpha)$ with some appropriate $\\alpha$ (denoted as $R_m$ and $r_m$ in the following code) have very similar behavior to the shifted Legendre polynomials. Yet slightly differ in value and maxima/minima positions. Match is astonishing but not perfect. Here is the WxMaxima code:

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kill(all);\nL(n,x) := legendre_p(n,2*x-1);\nk[n,j] := (-1)^(j+n+1)*binomial(n+j,j)*binomial(n,j)$\nR(n,x) := 1 + sum(k[n,j]*x^(1/j), j, 1, n)$\nr(n,x) := (-1)^n*R(n,x);\nM : 5;\nwxplot2d([L(M,x),r(M,x^(6.820))],[x,0,1]);\nM : 6;\nwxplot2d([L(M,x),r(M,x^(9.231))],[x,0,1]);\n
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And here are pictures

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\"<span$r_5$ and $L_5$\" />

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\"<span$r_6$ and $L_6$\" />

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1321797, "author_name": "mathworker21", "author_id": 129185, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/129185/mathworker21", "score": 0, "body_html": "you doubt which proof is feasible?", "created_date": "2026-01-27 09:19:53Z" }, { "comment_id": 1321798, "author_name": "F. Jatpil", "author_id": 112616, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/112616/f-jatpil", "score": 0, "body_html": "A doubt technical algebraic proof (re-arranging sum, factorials, factorizing terms, ect..) is feasible. Looking for a similar proof for Legendre polynomials I could not find.", "created_date": "2026-01-27 09:25:06Z" }, { "comment_id": 1322667, "author_name": "Carlo Beenakker", "author_id": 11260, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11260/carlo-beenakker", "score": 0, "body_html": "note that $f_n(1)=(-1)^n$, so it is sufficient to prove that $|f_n(x)|\\leq |f_n(1)|$ for $x\\in[0,1]$.", "created_date": "2026-02-04 09:15:45Z" }, { "comment_id": 1323409, "author_name": "Alex Ravsky", "author_id": 43954, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/43954/alex-ravsky", "score": 1, "body_html": "Crossposted at Mathematics.SE.", "created_date": "2026-02-11 21:34:25Z" } ], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508770, "title": "Classification of symmetric bilinear forms over Laurent polynomial ring under congruence and Schur complement", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508770/classification-of-symmetric-bilinear-forms-over-laurent-polynomial-ring-under-co", "score": 1, "view_count": 21, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "ac.commutative-algebra;polynomials;finite-fields;quadratic-forms;schur-complement", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 04:46:20Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Consider the ring $R$ of Laurent polynomials in $n$ variables over the finite field of two elements, $R= \\mathbb F_2[x_0,x_0^{-1},x_1,x_1^{-1},\\ldots]$, with the standard involution by inverting monomials. Concretely, I'm interested in a small number of variables, like $n\\in\\{1,2,3,4\\}$. Consider \"hermitian\" $R$-valued matrices $M$, i.e., $M=M^\\dagger$ where $\\dagger$ denotes both transposition and ring involution. I'm interested in the equivalence classes of such matrices under both of the following two equivalences:

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(1) Congruence, that is, $M\\sim A^\\dagger MA$ for some invertible $R$-valued matrix $A$.

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(2) Schur complement, that is, if $M$ has block form,\n$$M=\\begin{pmatrix}X&Y\\\\Y^\\dagger&Z\\end{pmatrix}\\;,$$\nand $Z$ has an inverse $Z^{-1}$, then $M\\sim X-YZ^{-1}Y^\\dagger$.\nI believe it may be sufficient to consider this equivalence for $Y=1$ and $Y=\\begin{pmatrix}0&1\\\\1&0\\end{pmatrix}$.

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Question: Do you believe that there could be a reasonable classification of hermitian matrices under the equivalence relations above? Do you know of similar classification problems (such as for other rings $R$) where classification is known to be feasible or unfeasible? Is the Schur complement of bilinear forms something that has been considered anywhere in the literature as an equivalence relation?

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I have reasons to believe that the classification should be possible as it corresponds to some well-known problem in theoretical physics, namely the classification of topological phases restricted to \"free\" qubit models, which is known to some extent (at least for $n\\leq 3$). On the other hand, this also suggests that the classification is not too simple.

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", "comments": [], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508769, "title": "Conjectural series for $L(s,\\genfrac(){}{}{-3}\\cdot)$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508769/conjectural-series-for-ls-genfrac-3-cdot", "score": 0, "view_count": 49, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "nt.number-theory;sequences-and-series;binomial-coefficients;l-functions;combinatorial-identities", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 03:39:47Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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$\\newcommand\\Ksymb{\\genfrac(){}{}}$For $s=1,2,3,\\dotsc$, let us define\n$$L_{-3}(s):=L\\left(s,\\Ksymb{-3}\\cdot\\right)=\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty\\frac{\\Ksymb{-3}k}{k^s}=\\sum_{n=0}^\\infty\\left(\\frac1{(3n+1)^s}-\\frac1{(3n+2)^s}\\right),$$\nwhere $\\Ksymb{-3}k$ is the Kronecker symbol which coincides with the Legendre symbol $\\genfrac(){}{}k3$.

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It is well known that $$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty\\frac1{k\\binom{2k}k}=\\frac{\\pi}{3\\sqrt3}=L_{-3}(1).\\tag{0}\\label{508769_0}$$\nMotivated by this and Questions 508743 and 508768, I make the following conjecture involving higher-order derivatives of the function\n$$h(k)=\\frac1{k\\binom{2k}k}=\\frac{\\Gamma(k+1)^2}{k\\Gamma(2k+1)}.$$

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Conjecture. We have\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty h'(k)=-\\frac32L_{-3}(2),\\tag{1}\\label{508769_1}$$\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty h''(k)=3L_{-3}(3)=\\frac{4\\pi^3}{27\\sqrt3},\\tag2\\label{508769_2}$$\nand\n$$\\sum_{k=1}^\\infty h'''(k)=\\frac34\\left(2\\pi^2L_{-3}(2)-27L_{-3}(4)\\right).\\tag{3}\\label{508769_3}$$

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QUESTION. Are the three conjectural identities known? If some of them are new, how to prove them?

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Your comments are welcome!

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I am turning 72 this year, an abundant number between a pair of twin primes. We do not know yet whether or not there are infinitely many twin primes, but can I be certain that at least most numbers, more than half inside the pairs of twin primes (.e. $\\ n\\ $ such that $\\ n\\pm1\\ $ are both prime), are abundant?

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325608, "author_name": "Wojowu", "author_id": 30186, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/30186/wojowu", "score": 2, "body_html": "Primes themselves are not abundant, so it seems the question is about the density of abundant numbers. As stated on Wikipedia, abundant numbers have a natural density, 0.247. I don't understand how this question is really about \"numbers between (twin) primes\", so let me know if this answers it.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 11:13:09Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325611, "author_name": "Gerry Myerson", "author_id": 3684, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3684/gerry-myerson", "score": 12, "body_html": "The number between twin primes is always a multiple of six, so (except for six itself) is always abundant.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 11:41:17Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325616, "author_name": "Timothy Chow", "author_id": 3106, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3106/timothy-chow", "score": 3, "body_html": "@GerryMyerson Why not add a couple of extra sentences of explanation, and post your comment as an answer?", "created_date": "2026-03-04 12:55:03Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325619, "author_name": "Euro Vidal Sampaio", "author_id": 547394, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/547394/euro-vidal-sampaio", "score": 9, "body_html": "Happy birthday in advance, Recaman.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 13:35:59Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325646, "author_name": "Daniel Asimov", "author_id": 5484, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/5484/daniel-asimov", "score": 2, "body_html": "I would like the question to explain exactly what the phrase \"numbers between primes\" means, and why it omits the word \"twin\".", "created_date": "2026-03-04 17:50:28Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508748, "question_id": 508739, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Elias Panholzer", "author_id": 586494, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/586494/elias-panholzer", "author_reputation": 140, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-04 15:07:37Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 17:19:07Z", "body_html": "
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Every multiple of $6$ greater than $6$ is abundant. Every twin prime pair greater than $(3, 5)$ is of the form $(6n-1, 6n+1)$. So every number between a prime pair except $4$ and $6$ is abundant.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325633, "author_name": "LSpice", "author_id": 2383, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2383/lspice", "score": 4, "body_html": "Also mentioned by @GerryMyerson in the comments.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 16:01:16Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325682, "author_name": "Wlod AA", "author_id": 110389, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/110389/wlod-aa", "score": 0, "body_html": "------- C'mon ... --------", "created_date": "2026-03-05 03:22:09Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 416763, "title": "Intersection of the kernel with the interpolation space", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/416763/intersection-of-the-kernel-with-the-interpolation-space", "score": 1, "view_count": 414, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "fa.functional-analysis;sobolev-spaces;interpolation-spaces", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 02:03:35Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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$\\DeclareMathOperator\\Ker{Ker}$Given two Banach spaces $X$ and $Y$ with a continuous inclusion $X\\subset Y$, and another couple $X’ \\subset Y’$ with the same properties. Take $f : Y \\longrightarrow Y’$ linear continuous, such that $f_{\\mid X}$ induces a linear continuous map from $X$ to $X'$. My question is for $0<s<1$ and $p>1$, is the following true:

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$$(X\\cap \\Ker(f),\\Ker(f))_{s,p}=\\Ker(f) \\cap (X,Y)_{s,p}\\;\\;?$$

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Here I'm considering the K-method for the interpolation.

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The inclusion $(X\\cap \\Ker(f),\\Ker(f))_{s,p}\\subset \\Ker(f) \\cap (X,Y)_{s,p}$ follows directly from the definition. My problem is the other inclusion.

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It's clear that if we have $Z\\subset Y$ then in general the following is not true:

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$$(X\\cap Z,Z)_{s,p}=Z \\cap (X,Y)_{s,p},$$

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one can take $X=H^{2}(U)$, $Z=H^{1}(U)$, $Y=L^{2}(U)$, $s=\\frac{1}{2}$, and $p=2$. But this does not contradict our case (because $Z$ here is not even closed in $Y$).

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If what I'm asking is not true in general, is it true under the following assumptions:

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1069517, "author_name": "Willie Wong", "author_id": 3948, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3948/willie-wong", "score": 0, "body_html": "Is your counterexample really a counterexample? What norms are you putting on $X\\cap Z$ and on $Z$? In some sense the \"correct\" norm should be the $H^2$ norm on the former (consider $X\\cap Z$ as a subspace of $X$) and the $L^2$ norm on the latter (considering $Z$ as a subspace of $Y$). By thinking of $Z = H^1(U)$ with its own norm, you are introduce additional data that is not available in the $\\ker$ case.", "created_date": "2022-02-22 22:07:48Z" }, { "comment_id": 1069549, "author_name": "M.Oud", "author_id": 477563, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/477563/m-oud", "score": 0, "body_html": "Of course just saying $Z \\subset Y$ , isn't enough, we assume everything fits the interpolation functor. And here we mean that $Z$ is a Banach space with contnuous inclusion in $Y$, and $X \\cap Z $ is given the max norm so that we have a continuous inclusion of $X \\cap Z$ in $Z$. In the exemple, this coïncide with the standard sobolev norms. Is it clear now?", "created_date": "2022-02-23 02:04:47Z" }, { "comment_id": 1069553, "author_name": "Willie Wong", "author_id": 3948, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3948/willie-wong", "score": 0, "body_html": "You miss my point entirely, so let me ask a different way: in your analogy, what is the norm on $\\ker f$? My guess is it is the induced norm as a closed subspace of $Y$. But then your \"counterexample\" is different in that your $Z$ has a finer topology.", "created_date": "2022-02-23 03:22:14Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 416820, "question_id": 416763, "score": 0, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Willie Wong", "author_id": null, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3948", "author_reputation": 42242, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2022-02-23 17:14:50Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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(Making CW as this is an extended comment.)

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Let's generalize slightly1: let $X\\hookrightarrow Y$ be an embedding of Banach spaces, and let $S\\subset Y$ be a closed subspace with the induced norm.

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Your question essentially boils down to comparing the $K$ functionals $K$ and $K^{(S)}$, where\n$$ K(t,z) = \\inf_{z = x + y} \\|x\\|_X + \\|y\\|_Y $$\nand $K^{(S)}$ is analogously defined, except that instead of allowing arbitrary decompositions $z = x+y$ with $x\\in X$ and $y\\in Y$, you are looking at decompositions with $x \\in X\\cap S$ and $y\\in S$. (Obviously here $z\\in S$ as well.)

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Clearly $K(t,z) \\leq K^{(S)}(t,z)$ for $z\\in S$.

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Your question will have a positive answer if $K(t,z) \\gtrsim K^{(S)}(t,z)$ for some implicit constant independent of $t$ and $z$.

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(This is why I objected to your \"$H^1$ counterexample; the $K$-functional for the $(X\\cap Z,Z)$ interpolation has almost nothing to do with the functional for the $(X,Y)$ interpolation in that case. Compared to this case where it is essentially a geometry question about how $S$ is situated in $X$ and in $Y$.)

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A sufficient condition is therefore that there exists a projection $\\Pi:Y\\to S$ with the property that $\\Pi(X) \\subseteq X\\cap S$ and the operator norms $\\|\\Pi\\|_{Y\\to S}$ and $\\|\\Pi\\|_{X\\to X\\cap S}$ are both bounded.

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(The existence of such projection operators is in general a non-trivial assumption, as for Banach spaces there are generally closed subspaces which are not images of continuous projections, and for Hilbert spaces non-orthogonal projections may fail to be bounded.2)

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This would be the case if, for example, $X, Y$ were Hilbert, and $S$ is such that whenever $x\\in X$ is orthogonal to $S$ w.r.t. the $X$ inner product, it is also orthogonal w.r.t. the $Y$ inner product.

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As Hannes noted in a comment below: the result alluded to above is given as Theorem 1 in Section 1.17.1 of Interpolation Theory, Function Spaces, Differential Operators (ed. Hans Triebel, North-Holland (1978)).

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1: When $Y$ is separable, every closed subspace is a kernel, so in this case it is not more general. https://arxiv.org/abs/1811.02399

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2: I don't see how to relate the existence of these projections to the additional conditions you are willing to assume, as stated in the question. But chances are this is because I don't know very much about complemented subspaces.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1069575, "author_name": "Hannes", "author_id": 85906, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/85906/hannes", "score": 1, "body_html": "Chapter 1.17 in the Interpolation book of Triebel supports your complemented-subspace/projection suggestion. (And possibly worth a read for OP in any case.)", "created_date": "2022-02-23 08:58:00Z" }, { "comment_id": 1069590, "author_name": "M.Oud", "author_id": 477563, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/477563/m-oud", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you @Willie Wong. Its very useful,", "created_date": "2022-02-23 10:32:00Z" }, { "comment_id": 1069618, "author_name": "Willie Wong", "author_id": 3948, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3948/willie-wong", "score": 0, "body_html": "@OUDRANE a quick note, however: the complemented subspace argument is sufficient, but not necessary. An example: the Hardy spaces $H^p(\\mathbb{T})$ can be described as those $L^p$ functions (necessarily $\\subset L^1$) whose Fourier transforms have no negative modes. $H^1$ is not complemented in $L^1$, but for $p\\in (1,\\infty)$ we do have $H^p$ is complemented in $L^p$. However the sort of interpolation result you are asking for is true for Hardy spaces. (In this case you can write $H^p$ as the kernel of some $f:L^1\\to \\ell^\\infty$.)", "created_date": "2022-02-23 14:20:58Z" }, { "comment_id": 1069619, "author_name": "Willie Wong", "author_id": 3948, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/3948/willie-wong", "score": 0, "body_html": "The proof of that last statement as given in numdam.org/article/AIF_1992__42_4_875_0.pdf is based on relaxing the conditions on $\\Pi$: instead of looking for a single projection operator, the author constructs a family of uniformly bounded operators (not necessarily projections!) $\\Pi_f: L^1 \\to H^1$, indexed by $f\\in H^1$, such that $\\Pi_f(f) = f$.", "created_date": "2022-02-23 14:30:26Z" }, { "comment_id": 1069751, "author_name": "M.Oud", "author_id": 477563, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/477563/m-oud", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thank you a lot @Willie Wong , I think just the condition of the existence of projections is enough for me ( for my original probleme ). But this is very interesting!. And also I found here a paper devoted to this probleme researchgate.net/publication/… . They try to go more general on the conditions that allow the interpolation functor to be compatible with the Kernel.", "created_date": "2022-02-24 06:53:55Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 508763, "title": "Intersection of centralizers in $S_n$", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508763/intersection-of-centralizers-in-s-n", "score": 1, "view_count": 92, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "gr.group-theory;finite-groups;symmetric-groups;centralisers", "creation_date": "2026-03-05 01:53:05Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let $Z(g_1)$ and $Z(g_2)$ be the centralizers of two permutations $g_1$ and $g_2$ in the symmetric group $S_n$. Is there an algorithm which calculates the intersection $Z(g_1) \\cap Z(g_2)$ as a subgroup of $S_n$? Any references will be highly appreciated.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325664, "author_name": "LSpice", "author_id": 2383, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2383/lspice", "score": 0, "body_html": "What does it mean to calculate it as a subgroup of $S_n$? To enumerate the elements?", "created_date": "2026-03-04 23:20:20Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325666, "author_name": "Derek Holt", "author_id": 35840, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/35840/derek-holt", "score": 1, "body_html": "@LSpice The standard meaning of computing a subgroup of $S_n$ is finding generators of that subgroup. When computing with large groups you work with generators and avoid enumerating elements.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 23:26:03Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325667, "author_name": "jessica rhoades", "author_id": 587098, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/587098/jessica-rhoades", "score": 0, "body_html": "@LSpice, to give a description in terms of known subgroups of $S_n$. For example $Z(g_1)$ is a product of wreath products of $\\mathbb{Z}_k$ with $S_N$. Can the intersection be computed as a product of known groups.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 23:28:00Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325668, "author_name": "YCor", "author_id": 14094, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/14094/ycor", "score": 2, "body_html": "The centralizer of the set of left translations in a group $G$ is the set of right translations. Hence, every 2-generated group of order $n$ appears as centralizer of some pair in $S_n$, so you won't find something as explicit as for centralizer of individual elements.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 23:34:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325671, "author_name": "jessica rhoades", "author_id": 587098, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/587098/jessica-rhoades", "score": 0, "body_html": "@YCor, thanks that is very insightful. It seems there is no nice structural result related the intersection of the centralizers. One cannot expect these intersections to be products of wreath products?", "created_date": "2026-03-05 00:18:20Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508764, "question_id": 508763, "score": 6, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Derek Holt", "author_id": 35840, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/35840/derek-holt", "author_reputation": 38726, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-04 23:32:22Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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The intersection of the centralizers of $g_1$ and $g_2$ is just the centralizer of the subgroup $\\langle g_1,g_2 \\rangle$ of $S_n$. Yes there is an efficient algorithm for that problem. It can be done in polynomial time.

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It is described in detail in Section 6.1.2 of the book \"Permutation Group Algorithms\" by Akos Seress.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325670, "author_name": "jessica rhoades", "author_id": 587098, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/587098/jessica-rhoades", "score": 0, "body_html": "Thanks! In theorem 6.1.6 when they say the centralizer can be computed, the algorithm outputs an abstract group or just the generators in $S_n$.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 00:17:06Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325702, "author_name": "Derek Holt", "author_id": 35840, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/35840/derek-holt", "score": 0, "body_html": "It outputs generators (because that is the conventional meaning of \"computing a subgroup\" in computational group theory), but the theory described in that section of the book tells you the structure of the group. You can also use other standard algorithms to compute the structure of a given group. Note that as $n$ gets large, the probability that $g_1$ and $g_2$ generate $A_n$ or $S_n$ approaches $1$, so for most pairs of elements the centralizer will be trivial.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 08:25:33Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 508746, "title": "Multiplicativity conjecture for odd-index derangements", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508746/multiplicativity-conjecture-for-odd-index-derangements", "score": 0, "view_count": 81, "answer_count": 0, "is_answered": false, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "co.combinatorics", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 23:43:11Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Conjecture. Let $D_n$ denote the number of derangements on $n$ and $S$ denote the set of all $k$ such that $k \\nmid D_{2n-1}$ for all $1 < n \\leq k$. Then we have the following: (a) if $a \\in S$ and $p \\mid a$ is prime then $p \\in S$, (b) if $a,b \\in S$ and $9 \\nmid ab$ then $ab \\in S$.

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For reference, this is the set $S$ up to $n = 100$: $$\\{1,3,5,7,15,17,19,21,23,25,29,35,43,49,51,57,59,61,69,71,73,75,85,87,95\\}.$$

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Now I can prove (b) under the stronger assumption that $\\gcd(a,b) = 1$ and $a,b \\in S$ implies that $ab \\in S$.

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It can be shown that $$D_{n+k} = (-1)^kD_n \\pmod{k} \\implies D_{n+2k} = D_n \\pmod{k}.$$ This means that $$D_{2(n+k)-1} = D_{(2n-1)+2k} = D_{2n-1} \\pmod{k}$$ and so the sequence $x_n = D_{2n-1} \\pmod{k}$ has period $k$.

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Now we show that if $k \\in S, k \\mid D_{2n-1} \\implies n = 1 \\pmod{k}$.

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This is since $$D_{2n-1} = D_{2\\alpha-1} \\pmod{k}$$ where $\\alpha \\equiv n \\mod{k}$ and $\\alpha \\in \\{1,\\ldots,k\\}$ and so $k \\mid D_{2\\alpha-1}$. But this must mean that $n = 1 \\pmod{k}$ since $k \\nmid D_{2\\alpha-1}$ for each $1 < \\alpha \\leq k$.

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Let $a,b \\in S$ with $\\gcd(a,b) = 1$. To show $ab \\in S$ suppose for sake of contradiction that $ab \\not \\in S$. Then there exists $n$ such that $1 < n \\leq ab$ and $ab \\mid D_{2n-1}$ and so $a \\mid D_{2n-1}$ and $b \\mid D_{2n-1}$. Now by the last fact this means that $n = 1 \\pmod{a}$ and $n = 1 \\pmod{b}$ and since $\\gcd(a,b) = 1$ it means that $n = 1 \\pmod{ab}$, which is a contradiction if $1 < n \\leq ab$.

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", "comments": [], "answers": [] }, { "question_id": 508758, "title": "Topology on the set of smooth sections of a smooth fiber bundle", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508758/topology-on-the-set-of-smooth-sections-of-a-smooth-fiber-bundle", "score": 1, "view_count": 88, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": false, "accepted_answer_id": null, "tags": "dg.differential-geometry;differential-topology;frechet-manifold", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 22:34:56Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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Let $p: B \\to M$ be a smooth fiber bundle. Denote $\\Gamma(B)$ the set of smooth sections. What is the natural topology on this set?

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It is often viewed as a Frechet manifold. For example, in a paper by Richard Hamilton \"Inverse function theorem by Nash and Moser\" its charts are given (example 4.1.2). Yet, what bothers me, is that its topology is not stated explicitly in advance. So, formally, in this example it is just a charted set with smooth transition functions. Is its topology inherited from the maximal atlas somehow?

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Edit: if possible, give citations, please.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325652, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "If M is compact then yes, it's a Fréchet manifold.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 21:04:54Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325653, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 1, "body_html": "BTW, giving charts is enough to specify the topology.", "created_date": "2026-03-04 21:11:22Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325690, "author_name": "Pedro Lauridsen Ribeiro", "author_id": 11211, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/11211/pedro-lauridsen-ribeiro", "score": 1, "body_html": "It might help having a look at mathoverflow.net/a/349234/11211 and the technical appendix to physics.stackexchange.com/a/317839/16767 . I also second David Roberts's point that a manifold topology is uniquely determined by a compatible atlas which doesn't even need to be maximal, you don't need to specify the former separately. This still holds true when the manifold is modeled after a possibly infinite-dimensional (say, locally convex Hausdorff) topological vector space.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 05:39:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325704, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 0, "body_html": "For what it's worth, this textbook has a lot of detail arxiv.org/abs/2112.08114 if not exactly the example you want", "created_date": "2026-03-05 08:29:25Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508762, "question_id": 508758, "score": 1, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Pierre PC", "author_id": 129074, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/129074/pierre-pc", "author_reputation": 4203, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": false, "created_date": "2026-03-04 22:34:56Z", "last_edited_date": "", "body_html": "
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People usually consider one of the two Whitney topologies.

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The weak one is the natural topology that makes sequences converge if and only if all derivatives converge locally uniformly (it is the only separable, locally convex, Hausdorff topology satisfying this property), and it is Fréchet. One way of defining it is to say it is induced by the family of seminorms given by the supremum of $|\\partial^\\alpha f_\\phi|$ over $K$, where $K$ is compact inside an open set $U$ for a trivializing chart $\\phi:\\pi_B^{-1}U\\to V\\times\\mathbb R^r$, $f_\\phi$ is the section expressed in those coordinates, and $\\alpha\\in\\mathbb R^d$ is a multi-index.

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The strong one is defined to make sense of “globally uniform convergence”, so they coincide when the base space is compact. In this case the space is not Fréchet when the base space is not compact, and one choice of a defining family of seminorms is to take $\\sup_{\\phi,\\alpha,K}|\\partial^\\alpha f_\\phi|$ with the argument like before, over some collection of $(\\phi,\\alpha,K)$ such that the domains $U$ of the trivializations $\\phi$ are locally finite, and $\\alpha$ takes only finitely many values (equivalently, the partial derivatives have bounded order).

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325672, "author_name": "andrey safin", "author_id": 587092, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/587092/andrey-safin", "score": 0, "body_html": "I consider your answer to be rather unclear. In such a construction it is better to point out what is meant by \"induced\". In the first paragraph you basically gave topology on sections on trivializing open sets. Which coincides with standard Frechet topology (and btw i can't get the difference with the second paragraph except for finite orders). And what's next? What is the base of the topology in the whole set of sections, for instance?", "created_date": "2026-03-05 00:28:04Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325699, "author_name": "David Roberts", "author_id": 4177, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/4177/david-roberts", "score": 1, "body_html": "@andreysafin a subset of the set of all smooth sections is open iff its intersection with all charts is an open subset of that chart. You don't even need to talk about the base of the topology, you can describe the open sets directly.", "created_date": "2026-03-05 07:29:54Z" } ] } ] }, { "question_id": 508750, "title": "Minimum degree in a graph defined by sumsets", "link": "https://mathoverflow.net/questions/508750/minimum-degree-in-a-graph-defined-by-sumsets", "score": 2, "view_count": 124, "answer_count": 1, "is_answered": true, "has_accepted_answer": true, "accepted_answer_id": 508760, "tags": "co.combinatorics;graph-theory;additive-combinatorics;sumsets", "creation_date": "2026-03-04 22:13:57Z", "last_activity_date": "", "body_html": "
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I have the following conjecture.

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Conjecture. Let $A$ be a finite set in some abelian group $G$, and let $A = B\\cup B'$ be a partition of $A$ into two disjoint nonempty sets. We define a graph on the vertex set $B'$ by placing an edge between $b_1'$ and $b_2'$ if and only if $b_1' + b_2' \\notin A+B$. My conjecture is that there always exists some $b'\\in B'$ such that\n$$\\deg(b') \\le {|A+B|\\over |B|}.$$

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Here's some vague reasoning why the inequality might be true. If $B$ is very small, then the right-hand side is close to $|A|$. If $B$ is very large, then $B'$ is very small and the degree on the left-hand side, which is bounded above by $|B|-1$, is small.

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The trouble arises when $A+B$ is small. In this case the inequality might seem more far-fetched, and indeed there are cases where some of the $b'$ have degree $> |A+B|/|B|$, but still I've always been able to find some $b'$ with small degree. (And I've never actually found any cases where equality holds for the minimiser $b'$, it's always a strict inequality.)

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I thought that maybe some basic averaging argument would do the trick, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Then I thought maybe the conjecture is false, but at least in the case $G={\\bf Z}$ that interests me most, I have been unable to find any counterexample using Sage. (Of course I haven't done an exhaustive search, I've just generated some random examples, and then also tried certain \"structured\" choices of $A$, like arithmetic progressions and geometric rogressions, combinations of the two, etc.)

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Counterexamples over other groups would be interesting to me as well, as they would rule out many of the basic \"Ruzsa calculus\" techniques.

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Here is a family of counterexamples using elementary abelian $2$-groups, i.e. vector spaces over $\\mathbb{F}_2$.

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Take $G = \\mathbb{F}_2^n$ and let $G = B' \\oplus \\langle v \\rangle$, so $B'$ is a codimension $1$ hyperplane in $G$ with a complement spanned by $v$. Let $C$ be a codimension $1$ hyperplane in $B'$ and let $B = C + v$. Thus $|B'| = 2^{n-1}$, $|B| = |C| = 2^{n-2}$ and since $B \\cap B' = \\varnothing$, we have $|A| = |B \\cup B'| = |B| + |B'| = 3 \\times 2^{n-2}$.

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Observe that

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$$A+ B = (B \\cup B') + B = (B + B) \\cup (B' + B) = C \\cup (B' + v),$$

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where we used $B + B = (C+ v) + (C+ v) = C$ and, since $C \\subseteq B'$,

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$$B' + B = B' + C + v = B' + v.$$

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Thus $|A+B| = 3 \\times 2^{n-2}$ and the ratio in the question is $|A+B|/|B| = 3$.

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For the graph we have an edge $\\{b_1', b_2'\\}$ for $b_1', b_2' \\in B'$ if and only if

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$$b_1' + b_2' \\not\\in A + B = C \\cup (B' + v).$$

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Since $B'$ is a hyperplane, we never have $b_1' + b_2' \\in B'+ v$. Hence there is an edge $\\{b_1', b_2'\\}$ if and only if $b_1'+b_2' \\not\\in C$, the codimension $1$ hyperplane inside $B'$. This is the case if and only if $b_1', b_2'$ come from different cosets of $C$ in the union $B' = C \\cup (B' \\backslash C)$. Therefore the graph is is the complete bipartite graph with bipartition $\\{C, B' \\backslash C\\}$. In particular, every vertex has degree $|C| = |B' \\backslash C| = 2^{n-2}$. Therefore we get a counterexample if and only if $2^{n-2} \\not\\le 3$. The smallest such $n$ is $n= 4$.

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I've seen it written that the existence of the Joyal model structure on simplicial sets is one of the foundational results on which the theory of $\\infty$-categories (or, rather, the theory of quasi-categories as a model of $\\infty$-categories) rests. On the other hand, I've worked through (what seems to me like) most of the foundational results which set up the theory of quasi-categories, and I have yet to encounter any serious/non-trivial use of the Joyal model structure. This leads me to ask:

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What is the Joyal model structure actually useful for?

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In fact, I don't even have a good understanding of what the existence of the Joyal model structure really means, so a related question (which may share the same answer) would be:

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What is the principal mathematical content in the existence of the Joyal model structure?

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Or to be really concrete:

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Name a foundational result about quasi-categories whose proof uses the existence of the Joyal model structure (or something equivalent to it)? Or, convince me that this is the \"wrong\" question to be asking.

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I guess that's three questions, but they're basically all asking the same thing.

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325522, "author_name": "Tim Campion", "author_id": 2362, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2362/tim-campion", "score": 3, "body_html": "I’m not sure what you mean. What’s an example of a model structure which you do find useful?", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:06:33Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325530, "author_name": "Tyler Lawson", "author_id": 360, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/360/tyler-lawson", "score": 6, "body_html": "Here are two examples that I find difficult to do without establishing much of the Joyal model structure. (a) Suppose $f: C \\to D$ is a functor between quasicategories, $A \\subset C$, and we have an equivalence $\\phi: f|_A \\to g$ of functors. Then there exists an extension of $g$ to a functor $g': C \\to D$ and an extension of $\\phi$ to an equivalence $\\phi': f \\to g'$. (b) Suppose $K \\to L$ is an equivalence of (marked) simplicial sets (eg: the inclusion of the \"spine\" of $B\\Bbb N$). Then for any quasicategory C, the map of functor categories $Fun(L,C) \\to Fun(K,C)$ is an equivalence.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:24:12Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325531, "author_name": "Tyler Lawson", "author_id": 360, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/360/tyler-lawson", "score": 0, "body_html": "(More generally, a model structure's role is often to establish \"well-definedness\" of many constructions.)", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:27:38Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325532, "author_name": "Tyler Lawson", "author_id": 360, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/360/tyler-lawson", "score": 2, "body_html": "The biggest foundational application of the Joyal model structure, though, is probably the establishment of an equivalence between quasicategories and categories enriched in spaces. We already cared about many topics from the latter, and quasicategories provide a technical advance over them.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:31:55Z" } ], "answers": [ { "answer_id": 508716, "question_id": 508710, "score": 14, "is_accepted": false, "author_name": "Tim Campion", "author_id": 2362, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2362/tim-campion", "author_reputation": 67580, "license": "CC BY-SA 4.0", "is_edited": true, "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:25:00Z", "last_edited_date": "2026-03-04 05:32:13Z", "body_html": "
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If you’re reading HTT say, you might not find the existence of the Joyal model structure explicitly invoked very often. But for almost any definition you find in the book, you can ask “why is this the right definition?”. Lurie’s answer is generally “well, just watch— I’m about to show you how this definition leads to a successful generalization of 1-category theory”. Then you can sit there and say “wow, it works because it works, and Joyal and Lurie managed to steal a copy of the Book from the SF!”. But lurking in the background, there’s often some meta-considerations suggesting why such a definition. should work, and these considerations are typically of a model categorical flavor.

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For example, consider the definition of limits and colimits in terms of the join. A priori, it’s hard to imagine that such a concrete, “ point-set “ definition should be correct! it even specializes in the 1-categorical case to the usual definition (up to isomorphism, not equivalence). But it becomes less mysterious when you realize that join with a fixed object is left Quillen, so adjointly, the cone construction is homotopy-invariant on fibrant objects (and hence doesn’t need to be “more derived” at least on fibrant objects). Since the cofibrations are easy to understand (and every object is cofibrant), mysterious coherence questions about a right-adjoint construction are translated into simple combinatorial questions on the left adjoint. Maybe Lurie doesn’t often explicitly invoke this in his arguments, but these kinds of considerations allow the reader to believe that what he’s doing should be possible (and before that presumably allowed Joyal and Lurie some hope that it might be possible).

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Some of this sort of thinking is made precise in Riehl and Verity’s infinity cosmos work. They work with less than a full model structure— to be sure, you don’t need a model structure per se. But the model categorical philosophy still feels evident in motivating why you write one set of axioms and not another.

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I think I’ve been addressing primarily your first question above.

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For your second question, I think I will refer back to my comment above — for pretty much any model category, the “principal mathematical content” of its existence is a matter of perspective, and you probably need to clarify what sort of answer you’re looking for there.

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For your third question, I think the examples given by Tyler Lawson and Phil Tosteson in the comments are great. Phil’s is particularly punchy — you should not take for granted that a functor category $Fun(A,B)$ between quasicategories is literally just the internal hom of simplicial sets! The canonical proof of that fact is “the Joyal model structure is cartesian and every object is cofibrant”. As Phil says, in simplicial categories, for example, you can’t just write down a functor category without the migraines associated with cofibrantly replacing $A$

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(Tyler’s “(b)” gives a great example of how things are even better since in fact $A$ doesn’t need to be fibrant. Another example that comes to mind here is computing a sequential colimit as a coequalizer of two maps between coproducts, which comes from the fact that the nerve of the poset $\\mathbb N$ is Joyal-equivalent to its Hasse diagram (viewed as a 1-skeletal simplicial set).)

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", "comments": [ { "comment_id": 1325533, "author_name": "Tim Campion", "author_id": 2362, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2362/tim-campion", "score": 0, "body_html": "Perhaps relatedly— trying to understand the join of simplicial categories appears to be a bit of a nightmare.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:34:34Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325535, "author_name": "Phil Tosteson", "author_id": 52918, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/52918/phil-tosteson", "score": 11, "body_html": "Nice answer! To summarize, the reason quasicategories are an especially nice model for infinity categories is that they are fibrant objects in a model category where every object is cofibrant. So unlike simplicial categories or topological categories, we don't need to perform complicated cofibrant replacements to compute mapping spaces, and this provides an a priori justification for many definitions.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:42:58Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325536, "author_name": "Tim Campion", "author_id": 2362, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2362/tim-campion", "score": 0, "body_html": "@PhilTosteson Yeah! I guess for those mapping spaces it’s also important that it’s a (cartesian) monoidal model category. The fact that the join is also basically a Quillen bifunctor is a cherry on top. OTOH I don’t know how to conceptualize why left/right and co/cartesian fibrations work so well strictly in terms of the Joyal model structure, though it seems telling that various marked model structures on slice categories can be developed in such close analogy to Joyal. I suppose Cisinski might have something to say about it.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:50:40Z" }, { "comment_id": 1325537, "author_name": "Tim Campion", "author_id": 2362, "author_url": "https://mathoverflow.net/users/2362/tim-campion", "score": 0, "body_html": "For that matter— the fact that the Kan-Quillen model structure is cartesian monoidal (ie cartesian products are “homotopically correct” and adjointly, you can compute mapping spaces of simplicial sets in a straightforward way) is already something not to be taken lightly— plain cubical sets don’t have this property, which is a large part of why people like Kan moved away from them to the simplicial land in the first place.", "created_date": "2026-03-03 16:57:53Z" } ] } ] } ]