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wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6tmor | ik6guxa | 1,660,433,463 | 1,660,427,457 | 175 | 111 | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | I’m three years into my career. Once I finish my exams, I’ll be licensed. I can barely afford rent in my studio apartment, and I’m just two paychecks away from being homeless. Edit: Should also mention that every few months, we get updates on how the business is doing financially…profits are going up every year. I won... | 1 | 6,006 | 1.576577 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6ssfs | ik6tmor | 1,660,433,058 | 1,660,433,463 | 54 | 175 | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | 0 | 405 | 3.240741 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6tmor | ik6m6ds | 1,660,433,463 | 1,660,429,921 | 175 | 33 | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | Antitrust lawsuit against the AIA prevents them from setting fee tables as they used to (unlike other professions like law or medicine with their respective organizational bodies). There was also the race to the bottom due to the '08 financial crisis with firms undercutting each other. And on top of things, there's jus... | 1 | 3,542 | 5.30303 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6tmor | ik6nl8s | 1,660,433,463 | 1,660,430,587 | 175 | 15 | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | Is this a US thing? Where I live an architect has a good salary (not top top, but you are doing well). A quick look showes it's about 28% above average, and 42% above median. Addition: Maybe the requirements for getting to call yourself an architect are different other places. Here you have to pass a rather intense 5... | 1 | 2,876 | 11.666667 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6tmor | ik6rfnu | 1,660,433,463 | 1,660,432,418 | 175 | 14 | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | From my personal experience it's all about what new grads can take. Often most are not confident in their abilities and will take any role at any pay . My first job out of school in 2018 I started at 70k. Slowly I been switching jobs every year and now my salary sits at 100k with no license or being a project manager... | 1 | 1,045 | 12.5 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6tmor | ik6iy2h | 1,660,433,463 | 1,660,428,415 | 175 | 10 | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | 1 | 5,048 | 17.5 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6tmor | ik6kmd3 | 1,660,433,463 | 1,660,429,197 | 175 | 10 | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | Supply and demand | 1 | 4,266 | 17.5 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6j9zg | ik6tmor | 1,660,428,568 | 1,660,433,463 | 5 | 175 | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | Construction economics don't favor the designers is a big part of it. Architects are also non union so they can't establish wage ranges that their clients have to adhere to. Contractors are generally unionized and contractors fees are often much higher. Often 20 percent of the overall construction costs. So on a 10 mil... | 0 | 4,895 | 35 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6ssfs | ik6m6ds | 1,660,433,058 | 1,660,429,921 | 54 | 33 | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | Antitrust lawsuit against the AIA prevents them from setting fee tables as they used to (unlike other professions like law or medicine with their respective organizational bodies). There was also the race to the bottom due to the '08 financial crisis with firms undercutting each other. And on top of things, there's jus... | 1 | 3,137 | 1.636364 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6ssfs | ik6nl8s | 1,660,433,058 | 1,660,430,587 | 54 | 15 | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | Is this a US thing? Where I live an architect has a good salary (not top top, but you are doing well). A quick look showes it's about 28% above average, and 42% above median. Addition: Maybe the requirements for getting to call yourself an architect are different other places. Here you have to pass a rather intense 5... | 1 | 2,471 | 3.6 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6ssfs | ik6rfnu | 1,660,433,058 | 1,660,432,418 | 54 | 14 | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | From my personal experience it's all about what new grads can take. Often most are not confident in their abilities and will take any role at any pay . My first job out of school in 2018 I started at 70k. Slowly I been switching jobs every year and now my salary sits at 100k with no license or being a project manager... | 1 | 640 | 3.857143 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6ssfs | ik6iy2h | 1,660,433,058 | 1,660,428,415 | 54 | 10 | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | 1 | 4,643 | 5.4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6kmd3 | ik6ssfs | 1,660,429,197 | 1,660,433,058 | 10 | 54 | Supply and demand | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | 0 | 3,861 | 5.4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6ssfs | ik6j9zg | 1,660,433,058 | 1,660,428,568 | 54 | 5 | Not right now. Not in Canada at least. The market is so tight and every major player is fighting for “talent”. And by “talent” I mean anyone who can open revit. Wages are skyrocketing with people jumping firms for 25% pay increases. It’s not at all sustainable but nice to see people finally getting paid appropriat... | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | 1 | 4,490 | 10.8 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6iy2h | ik6m6ds | 1,660,428,415 | 1,660,429,921 | 10 | 33 | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | Antitrust lawsuit against the AIA prevents them from setting fee tables as they used to (unlike other professions like law or medicine with their respective organizational bodies). There was also the race to the bottom due to the '08 financial crisis with firms undercutting each other. And on top of things, there's jus... | 0 | 1,506 | 3.3 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6m6ds | ik6kmd3 | 1,660,429,921 | 1,660,429,197 | 33 | 10 | Antitrust lawsuit against the AIA prevents them from setting fee tables as they used to (unlike other professions like law or medicine with their respective organizational bodies). There was also the race to the bottom due to the '08 financial crisis with firms undercutting each other. And on top of things, there's jus... | Supply and demand | 1 | 724 | 3.3 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6j9zg | ik6m6ds | 1,660,428,568 | 1,660,429,921 | 5 | 33 | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | Antitrust lawsuit against the AIA prevents them from setting fee tables as they used to (unlike other professions like law or medicine with their respective organizational bodies). There was also the race to the bottom due to the '08 financial crisis with firms undercutting each other. And on top of things, there's jus... | 0 | 1,353 | 6.6 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6nl8s | ik6wcsd | 1,660,430,587 | 1,660,434,758 | 15 | 20 | Is this a US thing? Where I live an architect has a good salary (not top top, but you are doing well). A quick look showes it's about 28% above average, and 42% above median. Addition: Maybe the requirements for getting to call yourself an architect are different other places. Here you have to pass a rather intense 5... | I think the aia has a huge part to it tbh. They state really low compensation that firms should pay their employees. If you ask anyone in architecture how much you should be compensated they always quote the aia website on salary for any position. But thats just my opinion. | 0 | 4,171 | 1.333333 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6wcsd | ik6rfnu | 1,660,434,758 | 1,660,432,418 | 20 | 14 | I think the aia has a huge part to it tbh. They state really low compensation that firms should pay their employees. If you ask anyone in architecture how much you should be compensated they always quote the aia website on salary for any position. But thats just my opinion. | From my personal experience it's all about what new grads can take. Often most are not confident in their abilities and will take any role at any pay . My first job out of school in 2018 I started at 70k. Slowly I been switching jobs every year and now my salary sits at 100k with no license or being a project manager... | 1 | 2,340 | 1.428571 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6wcsd | ik6iy2h | 1,660,434,758 | 1,660,428,415 | 20 | 10 | I think the aia has a huge part to it tbh. They state really low compensation that firms should pay their employees. If you ask anyone in architecture how much you should be compensated they always quote the aia website on salary for any position. But thats just my opinion. | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | 1 | 6,343 | 2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6kmd3 | ik6wcsd | 1,660,429,197 | 1,660,434,758 | 10 | 20 | Supply and demand | I think the aia has a huge part to it tbh. They state really low compensation that firms should pay their employees. If you ask anyone in architecture how much you should be compensated they always quote the aia website on salary for any position. But thats just my opinion. | 0 | 5,561 | 2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6wcsd | ik6j9zg | 1,660,434,758 | 1,660,428,568 | 20 | 5 | I think the aia has a huge part to it tbh. They state really low compensation that firms should pay their employees. If you ask anyone in architecture how much you should be compensated they always quote the aia website on salary for any position. But thats just my opinion. | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | 1 | 6,190 | 4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6iy2h | ik6nl8s | 1,660,428,415 | 1,660,430,587 | 10 | 15 | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | Is this a US thing? Where I live an architect has a good salary (not top top, but you are doing well). A quick look showes it's about 28% above average, and 42% above median. Addition: Maybe the requirements for getting to call yourself an architect are different other places. Here you have to pass a rather intense 5... | 0 | 2,172 | 1.5 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6nl8s | ik6kmd3 | 1,660,430,587 | 1,660,429,197 | 15 | 10 | Is this a US thing? Where I live an architect has a good salary (not top top, but you are doing well). A quick look showes it's about 28% above average, and 42% above median. Addition: Maybe the requirements for getting to call yourself an architect are different other places. Here you have to pass a rather intense 5... | Supply and demand | 1 | 1,390 | 1.5 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6j9zg | ik6nl8s | 1,660,428,568 | 1,660,430,587 | 5 | 15 | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | Is this a US thing? Where I live an architect has a good salary (not top top, but you are doing well). A quick look showes it's about 28% above average, and 42% above median. Addition: Maybe the requirements for getting to call yourself an architect are different other places. Here you have to pass a rather intense 5... | 0 | 2,019 | 3 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6rfnu | ik6iy2h | 1,660,432,418 | 1,660,428,415 | 14 | 10 | From my personal experience it's all about what new grads can take. Often most are not confident in their abilities and will take any role at any pay . My first job out of school in 2018 I started at 70k. Slowly I been switching jobs every year and now my salary sits at 100k with no license or being a project manager... | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | 1 | 4,003 | 1.4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6rfnu | ik6kmd3 | 1,660,432,418 | 1,660,429,197 | 14 | 10 | From my personal experience it's all about what new grads can take. Often most are not confident in their abilities and will take any role at any pay . My first job out of school in 2018 I started at 70k. Slowly I been switching jobs every year and now my salary sits at 100k with no license or being a project manager... | Supply and demand | 1 | 3,221 | 1.4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6j9zg | ik6rfnu | 1,660,428,568 | 1,660,432,418 | 5 | 14 | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | From my personal experience it's all about what new grads can take. Often most are not confident in their abilities and will take any role at any pay . My first job out of school in 2018 I started at 70k. Slowly I been switching jobs every year and now my salary sits at 100k with no license or being a project manager... | 0 | 3,850 | 2.8 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6iy2h | ik6zr9o | 1,660,428,415 | 1,660,436,424 | 10 | 12 | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | Architects also need to work more efficiently. When your process to completion is iterative you can spend a lot of time getting to a solution. Very few professions have unlimited paths to completion of a task. Imagine if a brain surgeon needed to come up with creative ways to remove the tumor for every single operati... | 0 | 8,009 | 1.2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6kmd3 | ik6zr9o | 1,660,429,197 | 1,660,436,424 | 10 | 12 | Supply and demand | Architects also need to work more efficiently. When your process to completion is iterative you can spend a lot of time getting to a solution. Very few professions have unlimited paths to completion of a task. Imagine if a brain surgeon needed to come up with creative ways to remove the tumor for every single operati... | 0 | 7,227 | 1.2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6zr9o | ik6xoik | 1,660,436,424 | 1,660,435,407 | 12 | 5 | Architects also need to work more efficiently. When your process to completion is iterative you can spend a lot of time getting to a solution. Very few professions have unlimited paths to completion of a task. Imagine if a brain surgeon needed to come up with creative ways to remove the tumor for every single operati... | Non-licensed. 15+ years experience. Salary still is about of a struggle, but there are so many factors as others have pointed out like the fee undercutting for winning projects. That drops the whole profession down. | 1 | 1,017 | 2.4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6j9zg | ik6zr9o | 1,660,428,568 | 1,660,436,424 | 5 | 12 | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | Architects also need to work more efficiently. When your process to completion is iterative you can spend a lot of time getting to a solution. Very few professions have unlimited paths to completion of a task. Imagine if a brain surgeon needed to come up with creative ways to remove the tumor for every single operati... | 0 | 7,856 | 2.4 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik731nj | ik6iy2h | 1,660,438,026 | 1,660,428,415 | 11 | 10 | 5 years experience, non-licensed in Kansas City, MO. Pay is pretty brutal. Honestly it's burning me out of the profession. I definitely started as one of the doe-eyed idiots out of college but it was difficult to even get my firm to acknowledge the inflation rate and that anything less than an 7%-8% raise is a pay cut.... | Because there are many doe-eyed rosy little cucks that want to get into the profession and don't mind taking it up behind for years (a.k.a crap wages). Degrees used to be special in the 1950s when <10% had one. Today it has become a commodity, so you need to study many more years in order to be deserving of a non-star... | 1 | 9,611 | 1.1 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik731nj | ik6kmd3 | 1,660,438,026 | 1,660,429,197 | 11 | 10 | 5 years experience, non-licensed in Kansas City, MO. Pay is pretty brutal. Honestly it's burning me out of the profession. I definitely started as one of the doe-eyed idiots out of college but it was difficult to even get my firm to acknowledge the inflation rate and that anything less than an 7%-8% raise is a pay cut.... | Supply and demand | 1 | 8,829 | 1.1 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik731nj | ik6xoik | 1,660,438,026 | 1,660,435,407 | 11 | 5 | 5 years experience, non-licensed in Kansas City, MO. Pay is pretty brutal. Honestly it's burning me out of the profession. I definitely started as one of the doe-eyed idiots out of college but it was difficult to even get my firm to acknowledge the inflation rate and that anything less than an 7%-8% raise is a pay cut.... | Non-licensed. 15+ years experience. Salary still is about of a struggle, but there are so many factors as others have pointed out like the fee undercutting for winning projects. That drops the whole profession down. | 1 | 2,619 | 2.2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik731nj | ik6j9zg | 1,660,438,026 | 1,660,428,568 | 11 | 5 | 5 years experience, non-licensed in Kansas City, MO. Pay is pretty brutal. Honestly it's burning me out of the profession. I definitely started as one of the doe-eyed idiots out of college but it was difficult to even get my firm to acknowledge the inflation rate and that anything less than an 7%-8% raise is a pay cut.... | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | 1 | 9,458 | 2.2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6kmd3 | ik6j9zg | 1,660,429,197 | 1,660,428,568 | 10 | 5 | Supply and demand | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | 1 | 629 | 2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik6xoik | ik7hhd5 | 1,660,435,407 | 1,660,445,058 | 5 | 6 | Non-licensed. 15+ years experience. Salary still is about of a struggle, but there are so many factors as others have pointed out like the fee undercutting for winning projects. That drops the whole profession down. | in australia qualified architects on average get payed anywhere from 80,000 - 120,000 per annum | 0 | 9,651 | 1.2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik7hhd5 | ik6j9zg | 1,660,445,058 | 1,660,428,568 | 6 | 5 | in australia qualified architects on average get payed anywhere from 80,000 - 120,000 per annum | At least in US, it seems like there are way too much supply of fresh college architecture graduates into the field where they are not needed at that level. In some high-demand fields, getting a good, reputable degree in that area can guarantee a job. From my experience, even architecture students at ivy leagues do not ... | 1 | 16,490 | 1.2 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik78u8k | ik7hhd5 | 1,660,440,835 | 1,660,445,058 | 2 | 6 | Simple. Supply > demand. | in australia qualified architects on average get payed anywhere from 80,000 - 120,000 per annum | 0 | 4,223 | 3 | ||
wnoev1 | architecture_train | 0.84 | Why architects get paid so much less than everyone? eventhough the study is so hard compared to any other profession.. It makes me sad about the passionate architects, and also worried about the sustainability of the profession in the future | ik7ijla | ik78u8k | 1,660,445,611 | 1,660,440,835 | 3 | 2 | How architecture firms do their work… I have not been to small firms like less than 30 people ones so I am not going to comment on those… in morien to large firms, the people who actually doing drafting, modeling or anything related to the ‘work skills’ we learn in schools are not paid so well. The principles will be i... | Simple. Supply > demand. | 1 | 4,776 | 1.5 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b370 | iu6c9y3 | 1,666,993,395 | 1,666,993,921 | 19 | 378 | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | Architects are forced to bid against each other for many projects, something doctors and lawyers as professional do not have to do. On top of that, the people that finance projects look to cut costs, including fees to architects. Our firm could charge more and still be a great deal, but we'd lose out on work as we wo... | 0 | 526 | 19.894737 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6c9y3 | iu6bwxb | 1,666,993,921 | 1,666,993,765 | 378 | 11 | Architects are forced to bid against each other for many projects, something doctors and lawyers as professional do not have to do. On top of that, the people that finance projects look to cut costs, including fees to architects. Our firm could charge more and still be a great deal, but we'd lose out on work as we wo... | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | 1 | 156 | 34.363636 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6c9y3 | iu6b9yx | 1,666,993,921 | 1,666,993,479 | 378 | 10 | Architects are forced to bid against each other for many projects, something doctors and lawyers as professional do not have to do. On top of that, the people that finance projects look to cut costs, including fees to architects. Our firm could charge more and still be a great deal, but we'd lose out on work as we wo... | How many years of experience do you have ? | 1 | 442 | 37.8 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6ryir | iu7n7px | 1,667,001,360 | 1,667,017,747 | 129 | 141 | I make more money in my first year in an entry level construction position that requires a 4 year degree (project engineer) than I made in 7 years as a Project Manager with my Masters degree. | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | 0 | 16,387 | 1.093023 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu6n54m | 1,667,017,747 | 1,666,999,002 | 141 | 67 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | Architects should have unionized like the rest of the construction industry did generations ago. We would have a much better built environment and building designers would be fairly compensated. It is absurd that a lot of us make far less than other less skilled tradesmen. | 1 | 18,745 | 2.104478 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu70pot | iu7n7px | 1,667,005,622 | 1,667,017,747 | 55 | 141 | This my advice for all young graduates . If you want to make money go into construction and use your Revit skills there . You will learn more about building science and constructability. Then find remote jobs and do contract work with 3 firms . Boom paychecks roll in | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | 0 | 12,125 | 2.563636 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu7bsb1 | 1,667,017,747 | 1,667,011,120 | 141 | 43 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | 1 | 6,627 | 3.27907 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu7gxzp | 1,667,017,747 | 1,667,013,945 | 141 | 46 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | 1 | 3,802 | 3.065217 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu7a0t7 | 1,667,017,747 | 1,667,010,227 | 141 | 41 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 1 | 7,520 | 3.439024 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu78bsk | 1,667,017,747 | 1,667,009,378 | 141 | 38 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | 1 | 8,369 | 3.710526 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7c9b1 | iu7n7px | 1,667,011,365 | 1,667,017,747 | 37 | 141 | Design is seen as a commodity, whoever is low bid will get the job. It’s ironic though because design significantly affects the final cost of work. I think by choosing to spend more on design up front owners would get better and more complete designs - which would reduce uncertainty/risk going into construction which... | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | 0 | 6,382 | 3.810811 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b370 | iu7n7px | 1,666,993,395 | 1,667,017,747 | 19 | 141 | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | 0 | 24,352 | 7.421053 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7k5hh | iu7n7px | 1,667,015,836 | 1,667,017,747 | 14 | 141 | Literally everyone except the elite class is underpaid | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | 0 | 1,911 | 10.071429 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6bwxb | iu7n7px | 1,666,993,765 | 1,667,017,747 | 11 | 141 | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | 0 | 23,982 | 12.818182 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu6b9yx | 1,667,017,747 | 1,666,993,479 | 141 | 10 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | How many years of experience do you have ? | 1 | 24,268 | 14.1 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu6rc9g | 1,667,017,747 | 1,667,001,055 | 141 | 9 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | 1 | 16,692 | 15.666667 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7n7px | iu6w8e5 | 1,667,017,747 | 1,667,003,464 | 141 | 8 | I just had this conversation with my boss at my salary review which I did not hide that I was disappointed by the evaluation. He was proud to tell me in his day he would work way more than 8 hours for his paycheck and that what I'm asking for is steep. I calmly let him know that these days, that's abuse and we need t... | I think a part of it comes down to why firms often have a difficult time making a profit. One can estimate hours and fees required for a project, from concept through CA, but so many curveballs can be thrown throughout the duration of the project, that often times the fees agreed to end up being too low. Couple that ... | 1 | 14,283 | 17.625 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6ryir | iu6n54m | 1,667,001,360 | 1,666,999,002 | 129 | 67 | I make more money in my first year in an entry level construction position that requires a 4 year degree (project engineer) than I made in 7 years as a Project Manager with my Masters degree. | Architects should have unionized like the rest of the construction industry did generations ago. We would have a much better built environment and building designers would be fairly compensated. It is absurd that a lot of us make far less than other less skilled tradesmen. | 1 | 2,358 | 1.925373 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6ryir | iu6b370 | 1,667,001,360 | 1,666,993,395 | 129 | 19 | I make more money in my first year in an entry level construction position that requires a 4 year degree (project engineer) than I made in 7 years as a Project Manager with my Masters degree. | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | 1 | 7,965 | 6.789474 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6ryir | iu6bwxb | 1,667,001,360 | 1,666,993,765 | 129 | 11 | I make more money in my first year in an entry level construction position that requires a 4 year degree (project engineer) than I made in 7 years as a Project Manager with my Masters degree. | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | 1 | 7,595 | 11.727273 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6ryir | iu6b9yx | 1,667,001,360 | 1,666,993,479 | 129 | 10 | I make more money in my first year in an entry level construction position that requires a 4 year degree (project engineer) than I made in 7 years as a Project Manager with my Masters degree. | How many years of experience do you have ? | 1 | 7,881 | 12.9 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6rc9g | iu6ryir | 1,667,001,055 | 1,667,001,360 | 9 | 129 | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | I make more money in my first year in an entry level construction position that requires a 4 year degree (project engineer) than I made in 7 years as a Project Manager with my Masters degree. | 0 | 305 | 14.333333 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6n54m | iu6b370 | 1,666,999,002 | 1,666,993,395 | 67 | 19 | Architects should have unionized like the rest of the construction industry did generations ago. We would have a much better built environment and building designers would be fairly compensated. It is absurd that a lot of us make far less than other less skilled tradesmen. | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | 1 | 5,607 | 3.526316 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6n54m | iu6bwxb | 1,666,999,002 | 1,666,993,765 | 67 | 11 | Architects should have unionized like the rest of the construction industry did generations ago. We would have a much better built environment and building designers would be fairly compensated. It is absurd that a lot of us make far less than other less skilled tradesmen. | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | 1 | 5,237 | 6.090909 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b9yx | iu6n54m | 1,666,993,479 | 1,666,999,002 | 10 | 67 | How many years of experience do you have ? | Architects should have unionized like the rest of the construction industry did generations ago. We would have a much better built environment and building designers would be fairly compensated. It is absurd that a lot of us make far less than other less skilled tradesmen. | 0 | 5,523 | 6.7 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu70pot | iu6b370 | 1,667,005,622 | 1,666,993,395 | 55 | 19 | This my advice for all young graduates . If you want to make money go into construction and use your Revit skills there . You will learn more about building science and constructability. Then find remote jobs and do contract work with 3 firms . Boom paychecks roll in | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | 1 | 12,227 | 2.894737 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu70pot | iu6bwxb | 1,667,005,622 | 1,666,993,765 | 55 | 11 | This my advice for all young graduates . If you want to make money go into construction and use your Revit skills there . You will learn more about building science and constructability. Then find remote jobs and do contract work with 3 firms . Boom paychecks roll in | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | 1 | 11,857 | 5 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu70pot | iu6b9yx | 1,667,005,622 | 1,666,993,479 | 55 | 10 | This my advice for all young graduates . If you want to make money go into construction and use your Revit skills there . You will learn more about building science and constructability. Then find remote jobs and do contract work with 3 firms . Boom paychecks roll in | How many years of experience do you have ? | 1 | 12,143 | 5.5 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu70pot | iu6rc9g | 1,667,005,622 | 1,667,001,055 | 55 | 9 | This my advice for all young graduates . If you want to make money go into construction and use your Revit skills there . You will learn more about building science and constructability. Then find remote jobs and do contract work with 3 firms . Boom paychecks roll in | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | 1 | 4,567 | 6.111111 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6w8e5 | iu70pot | 1,667,003,464 | 1,667,005,622 | 8 | 55 | I think a part of it comes down to why firms often have a difficult time making a profit. One can estimate hours and fees required for a project, from concept through CA, but so many curveballs can be thrown throughout the duration of the project, that often times the fees agreed to end up being too low. Couple that ... | This my advice for all young graduates . If you want to make money go into construction and use your Revit skills there . You will learn more about building science and constructability. Then find remote jobs and do contract work with 3 firms . Boom paychecks roll in | 0 | 2,158 | 6.875 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7bsb1 | iu7gxzp | 1,667,011,120 | 1,667,013,945 | 43 | 46 | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | 0 | 2,825 | 1.069767 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7bsb1 | iu7a0t7 | 1,667,011,120 | 1,667,010,227 | 43 | 41 | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 1 | 893 | 1.04878 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu7bsb1 | 1,667,009,378 | 1,667,011,120 | 38 | 43 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | 0 | 1,742 | 1.131579 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b370 | iu7bsb1 | 1,666,993,395 | 1,667,011,120 | 19 | 43 | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | 0 | 17,725 | 2.263158 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6bwxb | iu7bsb1 | 1,666,993,765 | 1,667,011,120 | 11 | 43 | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | 0 | 17,355 | 3.909091 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b9yx | iu7bsb1 | 1,666,993,479 | 1,667,011,120 | 10 | 43 | How many years of experience do you have ? | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | 0 | 17,641 | 4.3 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7bsb1 | iu6rc9g | 1,667,011,120 | 1,667,001,055 | 43 | 9 | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | 1 | 10,065 | 4.777778 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7bsb1 | iu6w8e5 | 1,667,011,120 | 1,667,003,464 | 43 | 8 | Tortured artist mystique that has to die. | I think a part of it comes down to why firms often have a difficult time making a profit. One can estimate hours and fees required for a project, from concept through CA, but so many curveballs can be thrown throughout the duration of the project, that often times the fees agreed to end up being too low. Couple that ... | 1 | 7,656 | 5.375 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7a0t7 | iu7gxzp | 1,667,010,227 | 1,667,013,945 | 41 | 46 | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | 0 | 3,718 | 1.121951 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu7gxzp | 1,667,009,378 | 1,667,013,945 | 38 | 46 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | 0 | 4,567 | 1.210526 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7gxzp | iu7c9b1 | 1,667,013,945 | 1,667,011,365 | 46 | 37 | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | Design is seen as a commodity, whoever is low bid will get the job. It’s ironic though because design significantly affects the final cost of work. I think by choosing to spend more on design up front owners would get better and more complete designs - which would reduce uncertainty/risk going into construction which... | 1 | 2,580 | 1.243243 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7gxzp | iu6b370 | 1,667,013,945 | 1,666,993,395 | 46 | 19 | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | 1 | 20,550 | 2.421053 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6bwxb | iu7gxzp | 1,666,993,765 | 1,667,013,945 | 11 | 46 | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | 0 | 20,180 | 4.181818 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7gxzp | iu6b9yx | 1,667,013,945 | 1,666,993,479 | 46 | 10 | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | How many years of experience do you have ? | 1 | 20,466 | 4.6 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7gxzp | iu6rc9g | 1,667,013,945 | 1,667,001,055 | 46 | 9 | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | 1 | 12,890 | 5.111111 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7gxzp | iu6w8e5 | 1,667,013,945 | 1,667,003,464 | 46 | 8 | Stop selling architecture as art. Thats when we make more money | I think a part of it comes down to why firms often have a difficult time making a profit. One can estimate hours and fees required for a project, from concept through CA, but so many curveballs can be thrown throughout the duration of the project, that often times the fees agreed to end up being too low. Couple that ... | 1 | 10,481 | 5.75 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu7a0t7 | 1,667,009,378 | 1,667,010,227 | 38 | 41 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 0 | 849 | 1.078947 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7a0t7 | iu6b370 | 1,667,010,227 | 1,666,993,395 | 41 | 19 | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | 1 | 16,832 | 2.157895 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6bwxb | iu7a0t7 | 1,666,993,765 | 1,667,010,227 | 11 | 41 | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 0 | 16,462 | 3.727273 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b9yx | iu7a0t7 | 1,666,993,479 | 1,667,010,227 | 10 | 41 | How many years of experience do you have ? | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 0 | 16,748 | 4.1 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6rc9g | iu7a0t7 | 1,667,001,055 | 1,667,010,227 | 9 | 41 | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 0 | 9,172 | 4.555556 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6w8e5 | iu7a0t7 | 1,667,003,464 | 1,667,010,227 | 8 | 41 | I think a part of it comes down to why firms often have a difficult time making a profit. One can estimate hours and fees required for a project, from concept through CA, but so many curveballs can be thrown throughout the duration of the project, that often times the fees agreed to end up being too low. Couple that ... | The "is it worth it?" question is the crux of the issue. Architecture an interesting career that can be very rewarding. But given how much work is required to be good at this job, you can put in half the effort into another job and get paid double. After 17 years of sticking with it, I jumped ship and switched caree... | 0 | 6,763 | 5.125 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu6b370 | 1,667,009,378 | 1,666,993,395 | 38 | 19 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | 1 | 15,983 | 2 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu6bwxb | 1,667,009,378 | 1,666,993,765 | 38 | 11 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | 1 | 15,613 | 3.454545 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu6b9yx | 1,667,009,378 | 1,666,993,479 | 38 | 10 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | How many years of experience do you have ? | 1 | 15,899 | 3.8 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6rc9g | iu78bsk | 1,667,001,055 | 1,667,009,378 | 9 | 38 | It's complicated and hugely multi-factorial for a profession where it's hard to quantify in numbers the benefit even though it's needed. We don't even value ourselves seeing all the free work we do. Most people think architects "design" and that's it, when really that's just a small part of the array of duties we do. ... | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | 0 | 8,323 | 4.222222 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu78bsk | iu6w8e5 | 1,667,009,378 | 1,667,003,464 | 38 | 8 | Competition is high basically , and the reality is the developers make all the money , architects and engineers just get the scraps kind of . | I think a part of it comes down to why firms often have a difficult time making a profit. One can estimate hours and fees required for a project, from concept through CA, but so many curveballs can be thrown throughout the duration of the project, that often times the fees agreed to end up being too low. Couple that ... | 1 | 5,914 | 4.75 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu6b370 | iu7c9b1 | 1,666,993,395 | 1,667,011,365 | 19 | 37 | Architects are very underpaid considering the little bit of prestige we have. We can even be compared to Doctors and Lawyers. Except for the Starchitects out there the average Architect isn't making great money. My recommendation would be to find a job and then look for a better one. Always make sure you can do moonlig... | Design is seen as a commodity, whoever is low bid will get the job. It’s ironic though because design significantly affects the final cost of work. I think by choosing to spend more on design up front owners would get better and more complete designs - which would reduce uncertainty/risk going into construction which... | 0 | 17,970 | 1.947368 | ||
yg1brr | architecture_train | 0.94 | Why are architects underpaid? I recently had a conversation with a recruiter and I was told I’m asking for way more than industry standards (US market) and that I’m delusional and should probably settle for less. In my opinion AIA compensation calculator is outdated. Is to too much to ask for a little more than indust... | iu7c9b1 | iu6bwxb | 1,667,011,365 | 1,666,993,765 | 37 | 11 | Design is seen as a commodity, whoever is low bid will get the job. It’s ironic though because design significantly affects the final cost of work. I think by choosing to spend more on design up front owners would get better and more complete designs - which would reduce uncertainty/risk going into construction which... | To oversimplify, more people want to be architects than the market will bear, despite the many years of education required. Like teaching, it seems to be a calling rather than a solid plan to make money commensurate with the education required. | 1 | 17,600 | 3.363636 |
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