Uh fourth meeting..

We have to do what?

Some extra deciding.

W what? Alri alright. We'll see.

Well.

Oh.

I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting.

Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype.

Yeah.

Then um I guess that's your bit? I I didn't s see anything about it,

Yeah.

so I already uh thought you uh you were to do that.

So the you're uh.

I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this uh design.

Mm.

Yeah, that's important too. Yeah..

And then we'll evaluate, after after we have redesigned it.

Bit late..

Because uh well we'll see about the costs. Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close.

Alright.

Well the finance uh we'll do later, so um firstly uh I'll show you the notes. I don't think it's very interesting..

I think it is.

Oh nei. Uh no. Alright. This is copy paste. So.

From me of course, yeah.

Of course. You had some very strange layout.

Well from us all, yeah, from all of us. Yeah. It's a nice chorus, yeah.

Well um.

We ge we went through the agenda,

and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again.

Repeat it yeah. Alright.

So uh This is what we decided. It's also copy paste from what we made together. So we still know that.

Okay.

And then uh we can we can uh use the time better. Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us.

Alright, we both uh will?

Yeah.

Or one of us will?

Alright.

Uh.

No you go and I'll uh supplement you.

Alright. If I make mistakes uh you'll uh.

Yeah.

Correct..

Right. Uh well this is our design.

Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting. With uh the different uh perspectives of it. Uh we'll begin uh with the front. We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape. Um with uh the upper part being the front. Th So there's this part um which is made of hard plastic, the front. And uh we're we're using different colours. Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours,

Yeah.

and later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns and pictures and everything.

Mm-hmm.

But basically, different colours, bright colours not black, too dark. Fancy colours. Um then we have uh the lower part of the of the device. Uh which is of course um part of the back actually, because it's also titanium. You can see it also on the on the on the side view, that only this part is the front, and the rest of it, the under uh the under side uh of it, yeah, the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium, and has the titanium colour of course, the look. Um then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner,

Mm.

uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back, part of the titanium uh titanium part.

Yeah, it's a double R_, but.

Yeah?

It's a double R_.

It's a double R_. Yeah the logo.

But it's very difficult to to draw that in Yeah.

Yeah, alright.

Uh uh it's difficult to draw so small, but it's our double R_ uh logo is in there.

Okay. Yeah.

Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round I think oval will be better for the for the d for the different uh channel buttons.

Oval yeah.

Alright.

So uh oval, n those are here. And then we have the m The m

Channel up and volume?

Yeah the the con the the the, yeah, the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes, which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle of the of the operators, of the channel and uh volume um changers.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And then we've here the Menu button and the.

Alright.

Menu for the L_C_D_ screen.

And the video button. The.

So.

Mm right.

Yeah. And of course this low part, this is the L_C_D_ screen.

'Kay.

Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh if you want.

Well if I look at it, the side the side view.

Well, at the back.

Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our talk

Yeah.

and then you can add suggestions.

Oh yeah alright. Yeah.

Maybe I I don't want to I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick.

Um okay I've had everything I guess on the front?

No the back. With the logo and our uh l uh.

Yeah the back. Yeah. We thought about Yeah, uh the back is of course totally titanium. And we thought about the logo big in the middle.

Mm-hmm.

Just so again the double R_. We have then the logo on front and on the back.

Mm-hmm.

Maybe that's too much

Okay.

but you have to say uh say that if you think that way.

No I don't think And the.

And the company slogan, we thought in a kind of arc shape uh above the logo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's basically what we were thinking about,

Okay.

and.

W

And about the side view um This the front won't be as thick,

but again th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to to really uh.

Well I see, but.

Oh and uh before I forget. Yeah the the voice, of course,

Well. Yeah I see it.

the voice recorder is uh at the bottom.

Yes.

And you can record it uh using, yeah, the the the back of the f w device.

When I look at uh when I look at this side view, I think w when I have that in my hand, it's terrible.

Well, it won't be visible. Mm?

If if you look if if this this is thick, and this is thin, th th then it that it lies over your hands. But.

Why? Well it fits uh it it it it fits the hand,.

Yeah.

mean uh the the the the.

Well what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle, so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker, so th then it falls over your hands.

Yeah, I agree.

If y If you handle a remote, you you usually don't have your hand straight like this.

In the middle in the.

You you have it a bit uh Yeah.

It depends on the size. If it's kinda small, this is is great. But if it's it's larger, then you want to grab it.

And how large is it?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the question.

That's the question.

Uh well Yeah. H What do you suggest I mean we do? This was Mike's prototype,

Well uh.

and y you seemed to agreed on it.

Well the sides I haven't seen yet, uh?

But now you have a totally different.

Well, they lay there all the time.

The size? Yeah well the size doesn't really matter w I mean.

They the the the the the side view,

Side? Uh oh the side?

we didn't uh.

W we we he drew the s the side,

Yeah yeah.

but you d you weren't paying attention as usual.

Well any case, we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea.

Yeah, I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this, and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle, your hand might be over it.

Yeah.

But you you hold it like this.

Yeah you you don't you don't grab it,

You're not holding it like this or something.

you you.

You, yeah, y How do you call it? Yeah.

Well y y y you don't have it like this.

No no no.

You have it more like this.

You you you're using buttons this way, or if you're right-handed, this way.

Like you're holding your telephone.

Yep.

Yeah.

So you Yeah. So.

Because if you have a screen on it, you wanna look at your screen.

Hmm. That way, it it falls into your hand. I think..

Yeah well.

Okay.

And maybe you can you can grab it a bit higher,

Yeah, I agree on this.

so Well.

No, I don't think so. That's not uh the point.

No but but.

Well the the Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side, but.

Well f for as far as I can see, three of us agree

Yeah well

and only Nils.

uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it.

But you're the Project Manager, you can make the hard decisions..

Yes. So uh I c I c

If necessary.

Well, we'll we we'll do it like this.

But uh are d Can you live with it? Uh.

Alright, if you think that that's the way it should.

Yeah?

Y Yeah, y y y y you said it was totally uh unusable.

No No,

But do you

when I I my personal taste is that I want it to fall over my hands with a thick But In the market uh.

But d you don't think this is completely unusable I guess. I think.

No not totally.

Not totally, well.

For me, I I wouldn't buy it. Let's say it like that.

Yeah but of course y you are also human. We have to take uh every everyone into account. So.

No.

And you might be uh You might be target customer.

Yeah.

Yes but.

Well uh who who else thinks like you?

Mm.

We don't know.

Yeah, we don't know,

Maybe a thousand people,

but that's uh that's that's that's more market research.

or a million people.

So let it be like this at uh at this moment.

Let it be.

Okay?

Alright. So that's that.

Uh any other suggestions?

No, I think it's great.

Yeah.

But what about the redesigning?

Comes to that later.

Okay..

Um you. Uh c You can uh Walter. You can do the evaluation uh criteria on this?

You're very personal again.

Alright. Great.

That's more useful than just speaking.

Well, this is just a short intro.

Yes.

I'm going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria.

So I made a I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and trends.

Mm-hmm.

And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well, I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm.

'Kay.

Well.

Hmm.

I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation, so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is, uh is the device good-looking? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think?

Well d we designed it, so of course we are very.

Mm.

Yeah, we're we're not quite uh objective about this.

Yeah.

Well we designed it to be good-looking.

Yeah.

No, I know, but I have to uh evaluate it. So I have to take this questionnaire.

To the customers?

So and we ha we have answer now?

To potential customers who have to take this questionnaire?

Yeah..

Yeah Yeah, but I can't can s

Nei. Oh no. I know, I know, I know.

Hmm.

But um Well we can go, uh because of the time, uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking? Well we think so. Uh.

Yeah. We designed it to be good-looking, so.

I Yeah, I think it.

Yeah, but uh, you know We dis we di we designed it to be perfect.

Yeah.

So But we have to be critic critical about it. And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end. So we we know where we stand.

Well, one.

'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten.

Well so it's point four. Easy to find t

Well l well let's start with the beginning, just one by one..

Right, so Right. Uh is it good-looking?

Well, I guess uh I think uh it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course, uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything..

Two..

That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device that.

The titanium might be uh f for older people.

Yeah, that's that's uh for older people, it's it's more that classical look. So.

It you put uh put a black front on it or something.

Hmm.

Uh no. I think Yeah they like black of course, but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also Uh I think it's also good for them, so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I think it's very good-looking

Right.

and not only for youth uh young people.

I think we shouldn't discuss any points points that long, because I don't know how how many points there are but uh.

No. I totally agree.

Right.

Yeah, the fourteen yeah.

We we have to get get on, go through this.

Right, a number please.

Yeah.

Is it easy to t change channels? Yeah well I think so.

So the last one is seven.

Um, no it's uh.

Easy to change channels?

No, not false. It's one.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, right.

Well uh two? Y Well we have to go through it.

Change channels?

I think it's uh as easy as uh can be made. Uh.

Right.

So I Yeah. You How can you make it any easier?.

With two huge buttons.

The power, channel and volume buttons are easy accessible?

Yep.

Yeah, huge is a Yeah.

Two.

Two? Alright. The uh device is easy to find if you lose it?

Well, no. We didn't implement anything about that..

D we d we don't we don't have uh that s

Well it's easier to find than a a normal black one or something,

Well six then..

because of the colour. But.

Yeah.

Yeah. Six? Right.

Well we don't have the device that beeps uh when you lost it or so,

Are the functions easy to learn?

but um um.

Well w I we do want we have a l f f less of an.

We have so few functions, so Yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

And the device R_S_I_ sensitive?

Well, I should I think two,

Yeah.

because the voice recorder is n not self learning..

Ah.

Yeah..

Yeah. Yeah.

Alright. Two?

Mm?

Yeah, but just do some We we.

Yeah.

I th I th I think this is too time consuming.

Are we take too much time?

Uh not not towards you,

Yeah, I agree.

but towards this all.

No.

Th this is.

Yeah.

We you have to put it to the customers.

Right, R_ R_S_I_ sensitive? R_S_I_ sensitive?

Uh well well a bit, so four.

Four. Um.

Yes.

Yeah, very much. One.

One. And features included also one. And One.

Yeah..

Uh those uh nine uh is the fancy-looking. Uh we still think so.

Yeah.

Device fancy feeling.

And I think fancy-feeling too,

Yeah, cool man.

Yeah.

because of the titanium back. Yeah.

Right.

Are there enough technology? Yeah well also we have two.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's great.

Is the device easy to use?

The.

Yes we have not many buttons.

So well maybe two

Two, three.

Two two.

because of the voice recorder.

Well, with the uh Three.

Are the trends about fruit and vegetables implemented?

T

F

Well in our covers, in our fronts.

Yeah.

So yes, one.

Yeah. One or two. Yeah.

One or two, another two.

Nah f four I think.

Four?

If you look at this.

Well, it doesn't really resemble any fruit, uh that's true.

But but we have the the the the the sparkly fruity colours of course.

No.

Oh okay. Okay.

Well three.

Three, alright.

And you can also have front with uh with fruit on it..

Yeah, that's true.

Is the material attractive?

But.

Mm. Yeah.

Well the titanium is strong, and uh the rest f uh the buttons feel soft. So I would say at least two.

Right.

Okay.

Well Yeah.

This is the last meeting?

Yes, but we we have to design much more,

Yeah.

The average will uh come later.

because there was some irritating account manager coming to me. Um.

I knew things uh were going uh too smoothly.

Oh. Uh.

There had to be some kind of trouble along the way.

Yeah..

Yes. Well, look at the costs at this point.

My god.

I had to fit it in.

It has to go to twelve, right?

I twelve and a half.

Twelve and a half.

So Well what costs a lot? The sample spea costs four.

The what?

The sample speaker,

The.

Out.

the s sensor.

That's easy. Kick it out.

Kick it out.

The what?

We have to go to twelve and a half.

Yeah. The speaker.

The speaker costs far, by far the most.

Oh.

Yeah w tha that's uh that's a bit an optional option.

That's some wrong info, man..

It it isn't worth it.

No. No, d th No.

No.

We could make two different versions, one with and one without.

It's uh.

But for this.

It's just extra. Kick it out.

So, zero.

Then we go to fourteen point six.

Yeah.

Well the titanium I don't want to lose actually.

What more?

No.

Batteries are uh quite.

L_C_ three? Yeah hand dynamo? Y t come on,

Uh no, no no no.

w a remote control has a battery.

Um.

N Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think.

Well well why why why should we use a advanced chip?

Because uh.

Well be for the L_C_D_ uh you had said.

the L_C_D_ screen. Yeah.

Yeah?

Hmm.

Can't we do that with a regular chip?

No.

Why not?

Because uh that uh y.

Well what what's the difference between simple and regular?

because my information says it.

What's the difference between a simple and a regular chip?

Huh?

Yeah. Regular is normal.

Yeah.

And simple?

Uh well yeah I I read something about it, but.

Simple.

Nothing.

Elementary.

Well?

Yeah,

Your part.

I I read something about it, but it wasn't very clear. I d I didn't in include it in my report.

What happens if we do.

Single Well you have to use a chip. So Well you have to use the advanced chip, if you have the L_C_D_ screen.

How much do we win? One.

We we we Why?

We have very little options furthermore, for the.

Yeah.

But if you have a regular chip, you can't have the L_C_D_ screen.

Uh well we have to put that in.

Yeah, we need to have the the L_C_D_ screen.

That that's a fact. Uh.

Well, we could say, well this special colour, that isn't that that isn't there,

No.

because the the fronts they will buy it. The special colour.

Yeah, but it's only one half.

Yeah, but.

Nah.

Uh it d it doesn't.

No, that's n It's not relevant.

Yeah,

Yeah, you must change the chip uh back.

then you s then you only have one half left.

You must change the chip back, Nils.

Yeah.

Uh yeah.

But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen.

No, Then the whole concept is uh

Yeah, I know but that's what my information says. I di I didn't uh put uh the advanced chip in there for fun..

Hmm. No we oh.

You You can make you can make it cheaper.

You have to use it.

But if you don't sell

Yeah.

You you we have an advanced chip-on-print,

and we have an L_C_ display. I think that's a bit double.

Yeah? No,.

Y we don't need both.

the advanced chip is needed to have an L_C_D_ display.

For the L_C_D_ screen. Yeah. Yeah.

Says.

Says, his Uh that was in the second meeting, I think.

Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again? Because we you have uncurved.

Well I I did single curve to Well you said s double curved,

I?

uh he,

because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already.

Yeah.

We can also make it flat.

Well.

No

But what what did what do n

no no no.

But.

Sorry, but What do they mean with the curves?

Curved?

Is th Is this a curve?

Yes, that's curved.

One curve?

Yes.

Yeah, this is actually two curves, yeah.

No, it's one curve.

It's how you It's how you look at it.

One curve..

One curve, simple.

Well then we have a huge problem I think.

W t we can never get uh below the twelve and a half.

We have a big financial problem.

Well we make it more expensive to buy.

Well, then we have two dollars less profit. Come on, if we if we if we make this fifty million, they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us, so uh.

If if you make people brand-aware, they are willing to pay more. But Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back. If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy.

But uh I.

Yeah or we could replace it.

If you if you make it cool to have.

By the way, we also have this one.

Oh, that's just great.

Oh, costs nothing. That's nice..

Oh, alright..

Hey but uh I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen, it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing.

Plastic is Yes, but I just got it.

Well that's pretty uh l

Why why don't we replace the titanium with uh plastic coloured titanium,

That is pretty stupid..

N not very practical. Well.

uh titanium-coloured plastic?

Who?

You want to dump the titanium?

Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper.

And make all plastic, then we ha then we're there.

But I'm n I don't agree.

But then we we've got to uh run through the eval evaluation process again.

I think.

Th then you have a ugly, stupid, l ugly looking, dumb remote that that no-one would buy.

Ah no no.

It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same.

No, I don't think so.

Well, I do think so.

I think the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and the and the.

Y

Yes. And the feel,

feel.

and th that it is strong, and.

And also the the older people will like it because of that. And because i

Yeah, I agree.

Alright it's not our target audience, but it's it's useful if it's uh important for old people.

We still we had to focus to get more people from the younger group,

Yeah.

but not lose the one.

I think the titanium is very important.

Yeah alright but then we we won't get there.

Yeah we have a problem, yeah. W But you can better, yeah, dump the L_C_D_ screen then.

We can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think.

I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen.

Well what else?

No, nothing.

W I mean uh.

Or you shou It's.

Amen.

Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen. But I think you could better change uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium than lose the L_C_D_ screen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because you have lots of functions in it too.

Yeah, well yeah. Alright.

Yeah.

Why can't I.

But.

I agree with that. So we u we use uh Unfortunately. Um. Titanium-coloured plastic.

I'll put in the report we that we think that fourteen point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these days.

Yeah, I agree.

So titanium-coloured plastic for the back.

I I'll talk to the managers..

No no no no. W Titanium stays there.

Titanium, I thi I think this this is this is e really good re remote. But.

Yeah this is good,

Osl.

but it it's not good enough. So we have to use the ditch the titanium, I'm afraid.

Ah those those account managers, what do th d what do they know?

Well.

Come on. Riot..

What do we Well what do we know? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really consider the costs. So.

Yes, yes.

No because we did not know anything about it.

One and a half Euros. Hmm?

Yeah al alright, yeah.

If you don't have the money, you can't make it.

But we have to deal with it now. So.

So s If you don't have the money, you can't make it. So this is too expensive.

So?

So.

So we have to make it cheaper.

Titanium gone and add plastic.

Yeah, but then we've got money left.

Right.

And on plastic times two and then we uh are there?

Well, no it's just uh all plastic.

No.

Well alright. Huh.

No yeah well.

Oh six..

It's just free, man.

A lot of plastic, yeah..

Four. So.

No two for the to make it clear.

But then we can add the special colour? As we have money over uh left..

Yeah.

And we still have money left.

Yeah. W

What do we want, guys?

I want gold plating.

No no um.

Yeah right. I want chrome..

Well I think uh the case is double curved then.

Yes.

Because you y have that curve

We have we have to uh fill.

and you have that curve.

Y Oh no..

Well, th that that is the problem.

Yeah well uh.

W we ha.

Alright.

No no no, but th that's not f um.

Safe.

Well y we have curves in all directions.

Well you can you can double curve, if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped,

So alright.

so it it can be done. But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it isn't bad to to to stay at eleven.

Finance?

I mean, this this ain't titanium, but it looks like it.

Well, guys?

We get more salary, if we make if cheaper than twelve uh twelve and a half.

Yeah.

Guys?

We have to dump our titanium,

Shoot.

and we'll hate the managers for that, but now we're going to evaluate our project, of uh project,

Objection.

Pro project..

project. Well, satisfaction on for example, are we satisfactory about our creativity?

Well I can't get no satisfaction, but uh.

I think it's uh Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best, yeah.

I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, me too.

That's really bad. But that that that's that, yeah that's a reason,

Its it's uh ridiculous actually, but.

And uh unrealistic.

but also for our creativity. We had um nice design, and then you get the cost, and you had to dump all your creativity.

Well we we we used our creativity,

Right.

but we just had to adapt it to the costs.

Which isn't very practical,

Yeah.

Nei. Uh no..

but that's the way.

Well, alright.

Uh-huh..

Uh leadership next.

Terrible..

Uh teamwork?.

Leadership.

Leadership? Well.

Well it's It was very democratic..

Uh yeah well I think so also.

Yeah. Yeah.

I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time, so.

Yeah yeah.

Well the managers were terrible. So, with their all their useless requirements.

But o alright, the teamwork?

Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements.

It's the requirements of the user, uh I guess.

No they said, oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext, uh we won't use the D_V_D_..

Yeah. Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications.

Alright, teamwork? Well great I think.

Well.

Right yeah..

Yeah, think so too.

Uh well what do you, what did you think about the SMARTboard?

It was a complete disaster.

Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah?

No Uh it it it uh it is uh.

Well.

No, that's a SMARTboard, and that's a digital pen.

It's also a It's both the SMARTboards.

Or not?

No it's other way around. That's the SMARTboard.

I liked this SMARTboard,

That's the digital panel.

but I hated that one.

This this this isn't a SMARTboard, right?

Well it's both a SMARTboard.

That's that's the smart

Yeah right. B but you.

Oh they're both SMARTboards..

This is just a large t large television.

No.

A televi Yeah.

You u you use the.

It's both a SMARTboard, but this one is used for a desktop, and that one is used to to draw.

Yeah, but you ca This is just a beamer function. And here, on this one, you can uh draw the pictures and things like that. But.

Well, wi w which one did you like?

Yeah. Left or right?.

That one.

That one..

Yeah.

That one isn't accurate. It just doesn't work.

Yeah..

But I I think this is meant by the digital pen.

You can.

Yes. Th that is so.

Well I didn't use uh.

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and we needed it. I think.

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Right.

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But uh you can uh I I sent it about three times now. Uh a green uh board with uh chalk is much more useful than that thing.

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Yeah.

The simple uh sch school board.

So.

I agree.

And uh the digi the digital pen? Did uh did you like that one?

I I didn't use it.

No.

I wrote things down but I didn't import it into my laptop.

I used it uh just to check it out, but uh.

That's the.

Yeah.

You you can't send that to anyone, because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself,

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and then you're going to send it, yeah. Well, no.

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Your notepad. Yeah.

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For drawings, yes.

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but not for personal notes. I think that's not very.

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But.

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Mm.

If you've If you've.

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Yeah I understand.

That Stefan use.

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Yeah. But then uh it's really useful, I think.

Yeah.

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Can we keep them? Uh.

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B by my.

Wireless uh wireless things.

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Well did you really uh Did you really take uh take those in account? I half of time I didn't notice they were there. So.

No. No. I haven't looked w one time directly at the camera. I don't care about it..

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Because this is a realistic environment.

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N new ideas found?

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What kind of ideas for n a future schedule What? For future um meetings you have got?

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Communicate in between.

yeah.

Chatting and emailing.

Email or chat or something.

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We don't want this. We hate this.

Yeah.

That's.

Digital pen is useless. So.

No it isn't.

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Well, for drawing for drawings. Yeah.

Yeah. So it isn't useless.

But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings, because if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things, I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive, I'm not going to uh.

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Yeah.

But it's still an expensive uh expensive.

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uh this v very very uh expensive paper.

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Yeah.

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Mouse is ju just isn't working if you're sketching.

Uh indeed.

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Really?

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Yeah.

Yep.

I it has It is useful. Yeah.

It saves time.

Yeah yeah.

This uh if it works correct, maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning.

So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work,

Yep.

I think then it's pretty useful.

Yeah.

Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room.

And then you can save it immediately.

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Hmm.

Celebration.

It is. So, congratulations crew.

Did you type that?

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Yeah, we can go to the bar and uh with our newly earned money..

Well.

Finally my beer..

Well, that's it I think.

Yeah.

Um I don't know how long we still have. I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting. But uh.

Maybe till four o'clock or something?

Well dunno. Yeah.

Well yeah, it is a bit uh Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things. I have to do that.

Yeah.

I Di did you um save this one in the folder?

You better get started..

Oh.

Can you do that?

No. No no no no.

No we must save this thing, yeah. In the shared map map.

But Nils you've got some work left..

I don't know what you have to do.

Map, is it a good word? The folder, yeah.

Huh.

I have to go to a physiotherapy..

Yeah.

Oh it worked. Two times quick..

Wow..

Oh, alright..

Cool..

So it is useful, yeah.

Yeah. It is handy.

This is nice.

No but uh.

Oh great, man.

I'm gonna buy one buy one for my bedroom.

Radical. Yeah.

Uh.

D design.

Do you believe it yourself?

S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um.

Well they they wanted everything we produced, so.

Yeah.

They also want to see my cat and his rabbit, and uh.

My big bird..

Well.

Your big beautiful bird.

Where is this?

Maybe the pen is just uh uh broken and the board isn't.

Of or the other way around uh.

Maybe you are broken.

Yeah I think so too.

I think you have we have to make clear to her that we are ready..

You know. I think she's listening..

I also think so..

Who is she you're talking about?

She already knows. She? Big brother.

Oh you mean our uh coach, our f personal coach.

Our manager.

Is she also our accountant?

Yeah..

Is she responsible for sending that information so late? Oh.

I don't think so.

Close your laptop.

Because then we have to confront her with our.

So she can see we're ready.

I feel watched..

We put the fashion in electronics,

Yeah. Let's take this remote into uh production.

but we couldn't because of the costs..

Yeah..

That that's the title of our uh end document.

Yeah..

That that's our new slogan.

Yeah, I like that..

We couldn't put the fashion into the electronics.

Blame our accountants.

Do that.

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Yeah.

But we couldn't, yeah..

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Oh.

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I'm sure management would like that..

Well.

She's on the move.

I'm going to resign after this project anyway, so.

Oh, that's just great.

Question: What were the key decisions and next steps that were agreed upon in the meeting?

Response: The key decision in the meeting was to proceed with the production of the remote control despite it being over budget and not meeting all of the initial requirements. The next steps included conducting and evaluation of the product using seven point criteria and then to make a final decision based on the evaluation.

Question: What did Mike say in the meeting about the color of the back of the remote?

Response: Mike did not speak in the meeting.

Question: What was decided regarding the back cover material?

Response: In the meeting, the participants decided to use titanium-colored plastic for the back cover of the remote to reduce costs.

Question: Could you give me the main outcome of the meeting in a nutshell?

Response:
Here is a short summary of the meeting:

* The participants discussed the results of the evaluation of the remote control prototype and decided to proceed with production despite it being over budget.
* The back cover material was changed from titanium to titanium-colored plastic to reduce costs.
* The participants agreed to conduct a final evaluation of the product once it is complete.

Question: In the meeting, were there any issues or questions brought up that were not resolved or left unanswered?

Response: In the meeting, there was no mention of any issues or questions that were not resolved or left unanswered.

Question: What conclusion did they reach regarding the voice recorder?

Response: The participants decided to keep the voice recorder in the final design of the remote control.

Question: Did the participants in the meeting agree to conduct a final evaluation of the remote control before making a final decision about production?

Response: Yes, the participants agreed to conduct a final evaluation of the remote control before making a final decision about production. The evaluation will be based on seven point criteria.

Question: Can you summarize why this remote is so much more expensive than other existing remotes?

Response: The high cost of the remote control is primarily due to the use of titanium for the back cover and the advanced chip required for the L_C_D_ screen.

Question: What was the primary goal of the meeting and what was the overall objective to be accomplished?

Response: The primary goal of the meeting was to discuss and evaluate the prototype of the remote control and make decisions regarding its design, materials, and production. The overall objective to be accomplished was to finalize the design and determine if it could be produced within the budget constraints.

Question: Besides the issue with the back cover material, were there any other concerns or challenges discussed in the meeting regarding the remote control's design or functionality?

Response: In the meeting, the participants discussed the evaluation of the remote control prototype and decided to proceed with production despite it being over budget. They also changed the back cover material to titanium-colored plastic to reduce costs and agreed to conduct a final evaluation before making a final decision.


Okay. Well, let's start. What are we doing? Oops..

Hmm.

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Uh.

Oh.

Now I have my screen back too..

Very good.

Okay.

Yeah.

we have presentations. So first, it's your turn.

Mine. Oh, great.

Yeah. Isn't it amazing..

Huh..

Yeah. Very interesting.

Uh.

Industrial Designer. Interface concept.

Yes, well uh let's uh talk about the interface uh concept. Uh, first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose, uh show you some samples, uh uh discuss some colours and design maybe, already. And uh my personal preferences. Well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off. The bu uh the mute button to switch the volume on and o on and off. The channels buttons, one to nine, and uh off uh uh zero to nine, and the uh button to choose uh higher channels than nine. Uh the volume and channel quadrants, uh left and right, up and down arrows, to uh do the volume and channel. And the menu menu button to man manipulate the L_C_D_ uh display. Um, I found some uh interesting uh uh samples. Examples.

Um, well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's that they're all pretty uh uh high uh.

Large.

Yeah. Yeah. Large and and and pretty thin and uh and long.

A lot a lot of buttons buttons.

Um, power buttons are mostly at the top uh left or right. Um, well we see the the the same uh arrows. Like there. And uh Yeah, well arrow b buttons can be blue. And what's interesting is the the the icons on the buttons. Some buttons have icons like the play and stop, but we don't use that. But uh, these we we have to choose the right icons, or or letters. Uh this is the V_ for volume, but they're both uh a V_.

So it's it's not really very uh clear what's the function of that.

Yeah.

Um Yeah. So, that's.

Can you go back one page? For the uh menu, what do we use for that? We don't have buttons for the menu.

Uh, well.

Or we may have to use channel of the volume and channel.

Yeah. I thought that was our uh idea.

Okay. But uh.

So, uh how.

You have to put it on the.

Like this.

Yeah.

Or or this. And that the menu button is okay.

Yeah but, has to be clear that you can use the arrows.

Yeah, okay.

Yes.

Uh, so the The icons on the arrows, as well, you mean.

Mm-hmm. Yes. The second one.

Yeah. Uh, well that's something to uh think about..

Okay.

Uh, maybe I'll have something in my uh presentation. And you will see it.

Okay.

Okay..

Um, well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already, or in the next uh meeting.

But uh, as we have to uh to to design the the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours and the logo, I would uh recommend a yellow case. Uh, round edges. The logo at the bottom. And uh, well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour. So, it's good. Uh, recognisable. K so, I think.

Not too much colours.

Uh, no. Not too much.

No, it's not flower power.

But uh No, no, no. But this has to be has to be trendy and uh and.

S okay.

Uh, yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons, and uh and big buttons is my uh personal uh opinion.

Okay.

That was that.

Thank you. So, you're next.

I'm next, okay. Yes. No. Here we go.

Uh, at first we will uh I will f uh say something about what younger people want,

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

our uh group w uh w uh we want to uh sell our remote controls to. And then, I'll discuss what my opinion is about the costs, about uh what battery is in it, what kind of buttons also. First uh, the younger people, they want like soft mat uh materials and primary colours. Like, totally yellow, totally red. Uh, so it's visible. Uh, the shapes are curved and round, like uh you also said. Maybe it's nice to uh get a remote control not like all the other ones, straight and uh flat and long. But to give him the shape of your hand, so you it's easier to use or something like that. But that's just an idea. And then, I'll have to discuss about the costs uh of all the things for the remote control. The battery, there are few options. Uh, I think the best option is to use uh the basic battery. So, everybody can buy it uh at the at the supermarket. Or use uh a k uh kinetic battery like uh within a watch. When you uh shake it a few times, it it's loaded. Uh, the the form of the remote control, I think it's also nice have it curved. And maybe like it's hand-shaped. Uh, so uh you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons. Uh material, you use plastic. Hard plastic uh because uh it won't have to burst uh like in the in one time. And also rubber because the younger people like that, what we see in the research. Uh the push-buttons. We have one new thing uh discovered. It's a scroll push uh thing like a mouse. Maybe it's uh easy to use uh for the channels. When you want to go m move up, you just scroll up and click on the button, if you wanna see the next, uh if you wanna see that channel. And also for the mouse, uh for the volume, it's also uh easy to use. Just scroll a bit up, scroll a bit down. And that's also easy just w when you have a thing like this, and you get it here. You can do it with your thumb. And with your l left hand you can uh push the buttons

Hmm.

uh if you push uh channel one, you can see channel one. The electrics um with a scroll push uh button, we must use regular uh chips. There are also uh simple chips. They are uh cheaper. Um, but then we have just a basic uh uh remote control, and I think there are a lot of those uh things, and people won't buy it any more. They have seen enough of it. And you have also advanced um chips. But that's with the L_C_D_ uh screen. And the costs will increase a lot more. And I think our budget is too low to use and an L_C_D_, and the chip who is more expensive. And maybe it's also then uh thoughtful if we u uh use uh as um different kind of uh shapes for the for remote control, that we then use the primary colours. Like, you get a yellow uh remote control, red one, blue one, et cetera. You have any more questions about this? I think the main thing is we look at the costs.

Yep.

Hmm.

And not too basic, not a basic remote control, who everybody already has.

Yeah. But, thi i uh This is with an L_C_D_? No,

Not with an L_C_D_.

not.

No, isn't.

No.

But the L_C_D_ is easy when you use the scroll uh buttons. Then you can scroll, you see what number, and then you push.

Yeah. But then, what I say, the costs will uh get a lot higher.

But then it's not easy to use scroll uh wheel. If you don't.

Th then you'll see it on the television.

Hmm, yes. But then. Yeah, then you go one down one up. When you scroll.

but l when you see a menu uh on the television, it's like you see uh one to twenty, you go uh uh s scroll up, and push number tw twenty. Yeah

but like we said before, it has to be used on every television. Yeah So you may not be uh.

No. The television must do that. So.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think the younger people will have newer televisions, which can provide our uh remote control.

Yeah but young people have to have all their uh room. And mostly they are smaller. So.

Yes. But that won't be a problem. I think.

Most the times that are not advanced televisions.

No, but then we'll get to the regular uh remote controls.

And I think, what I said, everybody has them uh has them already. And they go to a uh supermarket and buy them uh for two Euros. Uh, and ge and get the most cheapest uh thing. And I think we must look further to uh to devel d develop something news.

Okay.

Uh, can you give an indication in b uh in the cost difference between uh the chip with L_C_D_ or without?

I got it on my screen and it was uh higher. But I don't know uh how much higher..

'Cause it.

That's important.

I think if we have an L_C_D_, it will also sell a lot better.

That's true.

And that might uh bring back the costs uh.

But then we'll I think we must discuss who uh what will be better. If we have a better shape of the um remote control, or better options on it. With a scroll menu, a w scroll thing, and a L_C_D_. And then a flat um remote control. Or, a more hand-shaped remote control, with scroll, without L_C_D_.

Yeah. Maybe you can look how how much it is for the L_C_D_.

I can uh look on my uh.

It's very important.

Uh Note that the push-button requires a simple chip chip. A scroll wheel requires minimally a regular chip, which is a higher price range. The display requires a advanced chip, which is which in turn is more expensive than the regular chip.

Yeah, more expensive. But how much?

Doesn't say..

Oh.

Hmm.

Huh.

Okay.

That's from my manufacturing division.

Okay.

'Kay..

Well, thank you.

Yes?

My turn?

Next.

Mm. So So Yeah. So, my uh presentation is about trend-watching. Uh, I did some trend-watching. It's very important to uh keep up with latest trends.'Cause if you don't, you won't sell. So, well how we did do that? Uh, well we made an investigation of the market, by Trendwatchers. They uh watch in uh cities like uh Paris and Milan. Of course, well known for their uh trend uh trends. And well, uh what did you find? Uh, we have two groups, young and trendy, and the old and rich. Well th and the young and trendy, they uh they starting to like uh fruit and vegetables uh as a theme for n uh clothes, shoes, and also uh products. And um, material? That should feel have uh a spongy feeling. And to get a feeling for what it is, uh here is an image of it. Then the old and rich. They like uh dark colours, and simple, recognisable shapes.

And um, they also like uh familiar material, uh especially wood. Now, another picture.

To get a feeling for this. Well, uh then already come to my personal preferences. We uh aim at the younger market. So, we should also be uh look at their uh trends. However, with trends it's always if there's it's now. It it it might last one year, and next year it be uh can be totally different. And I think we want to sell our product for longer than one year. So, we m must not just only look at what the trend is now, as it might be totally different next year. So, that's uh one thing to keep in mind.

Changing covers..

Yeah. Any questions?

Nope.

No. It's clear.

No.

So now, it's uh Ah, let's see. Now, w we have to decide Well, we have to decide on the concept. So, we have to look at'S next. Components and user interface concept. So Now, we have to make some concept. Maybe one of you can paint it on the board. First, uh user interface.

Uh, uh-uh. How w how we how we make it? Uh.

Yes, a concept on uh.

Just.

Shouldn't we first discuss about like what w we all.

Yeah.

Yeah, but maybe we can paint it. Uh, what do we want?

Yeah, but if I paint with.

I'll paint. Okay.

Well.

Mm.

Something like this? Or Shapes or What do we need?

Mm, yes. What?

Can make several uh concepts.

Yes, okay.

We have this, and we had the idea of an um a more uh uh uh like sh in the shape of your hand.

Okay.

More like something.

Yeah I I I uh yes..

M like Yeah I can't dr I can't draw it.

And you have to.

Uh.

I have to.

Yeah.

I'm not a designer. It's more three D_. Like, um when you have a part here. This is the remote control. And then you have something like th this under it. So, it's easier to get it like this.

Mm.

Yeah.

It's like a gun..

Yeah.

A g.

So, it has to be soft?

Mm..

And it has to be soft, yeah.

Okay. And uh, the buttons?

So, you can squeeze in it and Sorry?

Buttons.

Buttons on top of it. And here. The scrolling. You can do it with your thumb.

No, it won't.

But but i that's the only scroll uh button on it then?

But now we use one scroll button and the other one is here. One till uh uh zero till nine.

Yeah, okay.

But, well there one for the sound and one for the channels.

But but how.

And the b

Yeah.

Yeah. How.

Yeah? Or two buttons.

Okay.

Uh, two scroll uh wheels.

And i if we go to uh.

If uh'Kay c If we do If we use one, then we'll have just a switch on it, and you'll just switch it, and now it's the sound to switch back

Mm.

That's th that's more difficult.

But if we have uh a me Yeah.

It's better in.

If we have a menu, uh how do we uh choose other options?

with the menu uh button. And then you also can scroll uh scroll in it. Just not like all the other ones, with uh this thing, and uh here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow.

Yeah.

Because uh, from h hundred uh remote controls, ninety nine have it.

But if we don't have a L_C_D_ we don't have a menu.

Yeah.

Uh, then we have it on the T_V_, the menu.

Uh-uh.

Yeah, but again maybe th How do we know the T_V_ can handle it?

You don't know. So, there's no menu.

I don't know. It's like some sort of uh teletext option, but we don't have teletext..

No. So you can't use it.

And if we put an L_C_D_ thing on it, then the costs will uh be much higher.

Okay, we make two concepts. One with L_C_D_. One without L_C_D_.

'Kay. But you all like this kind of thing. Uh.

Good concept. But.

With the scroll button.

That's one.

And and this one has to be soft.

Uh-uh.

And this has to be harder, because when it falls, it mu mu must not burst. Or some kind of rubber around it.

Mm-hmm.

It's one. Two. Number two.

And you can and you can uh make the the power button as a trigger.

Like uh.

Yeah. Yeah.

Ah that's nice.

Here. Trigger..

No. But when you handle it, you put it on and off.

Just to uh.

It's not good to use.

Yeah, but I'll zap.

Oh, like a.

Fuck. Out..

Yeah.

No, it's not good.

Yeah.

Now, second concept. One with L_C_D_, one without L_C_D_. Then uh Paint it..

Paint it?

With the scroll thing on, like this?

One with two scroll buttons and one with without. Yeah. Uh, one with a with a menu, and one without a menu.

So?

And the one with with a menu has an L_C_D_.

Draw it..

Unbelievable.

Do I have to do everything. Blank. You have Not so difficult.

Yeah.

But if you put push the the menu button.

Uh, that's the menu. There for the L_C_D_ screen.

Yeah, wh what Yes, but you don't know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose.

You have to For the menu.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. One that way. And one that way. So Then it depends on the cost. S On and off.

But is it easy to use? When you have it on your left side, and.

When it's not too big. Just like a a phone.

Mm-hmm.

M uh yeah, maybe it's better if the uh scroll-wheels are um

Separate, more separate, h yeah.

more separate, yeah.

Yes, okay.

Like, you have the menu button in between uh.

Yeah. On the left a scroll button, and on the right a scroll button. But would it be easy to use then? If it's like you have a big uh.

Very good. Is it better? When you uh the menu, you have to go there there there there.

I also think this concept is not what the young people were looking for.

Yeah.

They were like round curves, uh different uh.

Yeah, okay. That's that's the outside. But now the.

Okay, okay, okay.

First the buttons.

Mm-hmm.

Think we have we have now two buttons missing. The uh um The mute button.

Sorry?

We have two buttons missing. The mute button. And um, the to to uh have to uh numbers

Mute. And the other.

Okay.

Yeah. Not so difficult.

But, uh.

Personally, I think two scroll buttons uh aren't easy to handle.

But how do you wanna solve it?

With the switch button.

Yeah but on the menu that's not uh easy.

No

Then you go down, you switch, you go into the right, you switch, you go down.

like uh Oh, you mean like that.

Yeah.

Uh, then you can also have like uh th um.

A joystick.

Yeah, and joystick, I think.

Yeah. But is it uh Does that break, a joystick? Or a small one just like in a laptop.

Yeah like in a laptop, s uh s some sort of thing. A little bit bigger, with easier thi

Mean, it's better. But how expensive it is?.

I don't know.

Oh. Why do I pay you for?.

Um, well um Better ideas..

Okay.

Or no scroll uh things. Just a shape. And No, no. It won't work.

For the young peoples I think scroll button's good.

Yeah. Uh-huh.

So Think we have to keep them.

Or a remote control more like joystick.

Yeah, but is it That's not expensive than uh Joystick is better. A small one.

A small one like this, like a Nintendo uh k

No just like in a

Playstation thing.

a laptop. Small, round.

Then it's not so big.

No, no, no. I mean the the shape of the remote control.

Oh the sh Yeah, but then you can.

Just like a Playstation thing. Yeah.

So Maybe, if it's possible, it's not too expensive, I think a joystick is better.

A small one. So, please look at it.

No, that's okay, I got.

And on the L_C_D_, how much it costs? Uh, it costs extra?

Uh they're not uh in details.

It's more expensive or less expensive, huh?.

Yeah we I think you get it. So, after this meeting you have half an hour to uh fix it.

Then I have to come with it.

Yes.

I got my personal costs. I I don't I don't know the costs.

Your problem. Not mine.

Then I'll uh make something up.

Okay. So, do we have other concepts? Then for the components, we use a normal battery. Then it's Ch cheapest way, I think.

Mm, yeah.

Yeah, or the or the kinetic uh with normal battery.

No, no kinetic. Kinetic is uh ch makes it more expensive.

Yeah, I think it's uh, yeah, more expensive. Yeah.

So we use a normal battery.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yes.

Chip. Depends on the L_C_D_.

Depends on the scroll.

Scroll.

If we use a scroll, then we have the uh regular chip. If we don't use a scroll, then we can use the simple chip.

Yeah.

And that's.

And uh, we If you use the L_C_D_, we have to

Uh the most expensive.

Yes, okay.

Yeah.

So, depends on the L_C_D_ and the scroll.

If we Yeah.

Okay.

If we No okay scroll-wheel. So, I have this. So, it will be uh the advanced chip, or the uh regu uh or the regular chip.

Okay. So, uh the shapes of the design depends on the L_C_D_ and But, it has to be small. I think.

Or shall we just put it on the pistol thing? And then just put also on L_C_D_ on it?

If you have pistol, it L_C_D_'s not easy. Y y Yeah but.

Just use your thumb.

If you use a phone.

If you Yeah. I use my thumb.

k Yeah, but but then you have it. Like, th if you have pistol, you have it so. And the screen is.

Yeah.

Well, then you have to keep it this way to look at the screen.

If you have a joystick on No, if you have like uh an uh uh a ni a uh Playstation uh game controller.

Yeah.

And you move up, f forward, down, left. Then you have uh just, yeah, a little bit curved. It's not just uh straight.

No. No, no.

That's how we use it. That's why they make joysticks like that, I think.

Uh.

Yeah, but then you look forward.

Uh, yeah, but.

And then you can y

Yeah.

Yeah?

N well, if you have to look at it.

If you.

'Kay. Here's our designer.

If we have uh then something standing here, with the L_C_D_.

Yeah.

Then it goes like this.

Yeah, why not.

If th n well.

It's for the younger people.

Yes, of course.

It's something new..

That's good good.

It's uh.

But the um, it may not break.

Now we put uh rubber around it.

Okay. If that's possible.

Um, Yeah.

Hard plastic, uh the shape, and around it hard uh around it rubber. And the uh the hand shape is also rubber.

Okay.

Or you can uh turn it inside.

I can't see the. But, uh the easy of.

But that's.

uh, th the ease of use wasn't uh the most important uh aspect of it.

Huh.

No, that's true.

Uh, for us it's about to sell it. Uh.

Yeah of course.

This is something new.

Okay. Then this is the design. And the buttons are on the next page. So, depends on the cost. So,

Costs are okay..

um we have one minute.

One.

I think. No.

No. You have more.

More. Seven.

You have still ten.

Next meeting. Thirty minutes. So hurry up.

Oh, that's us together.

You two stay here..

Paint it.

Okay.

Now you have to.

So.

I think it's clear. Check your mail. So.

Yeah.

Yes.

It has to be ready in the next meeting. So.

Cookie.

What? Okay.

Next meeting is called the detailed design. So Everyth everything has to be ready. Thanks for your attention..

Okay.

'Kay.

See you at the next meeting.

Bye bye.

Question: Why did the Industrial Designer state that the remote control should be hand-shaped?

Response: They stated that younger people prefer soft mat materials and primary colors. They also stated that curved and round shapes that are easy to use are preferred by this demographic.

Question: What tasks were assigned to each person by the Project Manager?

Response:
- User Interface was tasked with presenting their concept for the interface and asked to discuss the buttons they chose for the remote, provide samples, discuss colors and design, and share their personal preferences.
- The Industrial Designer was assigned the task of presenting their concept for the interface and asked to talk about younger people's preferences, the costs involved, the type of battery to be used, the type of buttons, and the shape of the remote control.
- Marketing was tasked with presenting their findings on trend-watching in order to inform the design of the product.

Question: Besides the trend of younger people preferring soft and round hand-shaped designs in primary colors, what other trends did Marketing mention?

Response:
- Another trend that was highlighted was that the older demographic tends to enjoy dark colors and simpler, more recognizable shapes.
- Marketing also noted that familiar materials, particularly wood, are preferred by this group.

Question: What was decided regarding the L_C_D. screen?

Response: The decision regarding the L_C.D. screen was deferred until the Industrial Designer could provide the Project Manager with a cost analysis for the various chip options.

Question: Why did the Project Manager decide to delay the decision about including an L_C.D. screen?

Response: The Project Manager stated that they needed more information regarding the costs associated with the various chip options before a decision could be made regarding the L_C.D. screen.

Question: What did Marketing say regarding the importance of considering trends when designing the product?

Response: Marketing highlighted the importance of considering the latest trends when designing the remote control in order to boost sales. However, they also mentioned the transient nature of trends, stressing the need to consider the product's long-term marketability rather than solely focusing on current fads.

Question: Why was it necessary to postpone the decision regarding the L_C.D. screen?

Response: The Project Manager decided to postpone the decision about including an L_C.D. screen due to the lack of information regarding the costs associated with various chip options. They tasked the Industrial Designer with providing a cost analysis for these options before a final decision could be made.

Question: Did the Project Manager assign Marketing the task of trend-watching?

Response: No, Marketing's task was to present their findings on trend-watching in order to inform the design of the product.

Question: What was decided regarding the colors for the buttons on the remote control?

Response: The participants did not take the decision regarding the colours of the button but they did discuss it. User Interface said  maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour. So, it's good. Uh, recognizable.

Question: Did the team prefer a fruit and vegetable theme for the remote's design?

Response: I am sorry, but there is no information in the provided transcript regarding the preference for a fruit and vegetable theme for the remote's design. Therefore, I cannot answer your question.


Excellent. So um I sent you the agenda, it was on the in the project documents. I don't know if you got a chance to just have a look at it. Anyway, it's the meeting's gonna follow more or less the same structure as last time, so we'll go round each of you in turn and you can give your presentations on what you've been up to. Um and at the end of that we need to discuss what you've come up with, so that we can make a decision on the key remote control concepts, so that's we need to know about the components' properties, materials, the user interface and any trends that the Marketing Expert has been watching.

Right.

Okay. Um, do you wanna start again?

Okay.

Let me.

Right s.

we've got forty minutes.

so I haven't made a PowerPoint presentation,

You haven't made a PowerPoint, okay.

yeah, I I thought I'll use the whiteboard instead.

Mm-hmm.

Um mm,.

Let's hope the pen holds out..

okay, so basically I'll start off by uh I thought I'll use the whiteboard because we have so many different options and what we can do is that we can start um uh rubbing off the options that we do not require and putting in the options that uh are m or highlighting or underlining them or something like that.

Mm-hmm.

Okay, so uh I'll start again with a brief introduction to connect that anyway brief introduction to the insides of a remote control

Yeah.

and uh then we can probably uh discuss the various components. Yeah. Okay, so w what you see here is so this is the outside of the remote, right? If you open it, you have a circuit board here, right,

Mm-hmm.

and this is the chip that I was talking about last time. This basically sends information to a tr uh transistor here, which then uh sends the information to an L_E_D_ device here. If you flip the printed circuit board, and this is th the most important point here,

Mm-hmm.

uh everything else is kind of Okay, so if you flip the circuit board, this is what it looks like. So you see for example a particular button attaches to a particular place on the P_C_B_ and uh

Yeah.

on pressing this button I a circuit completes, the information goes to the chip, which is somewhere here and the chip that tra then translates the code into an infra infrared radiation, which goes goes out through there. So uh the important point that I read over the website was uh that the configurations of these printed circuit circuit boards uh are quite cheap to make, you can ge get them printed as you want to,

Mm-hmm.

so w we can have a configuration um irrespective of the cost, the way we want to have. Right? So that's the important point here,

Mm-hmm.

so these are the different options that we have. Okay. So the batteries, I'll start with the battery, right?

Mm-hmm.

So they can be simple which is like uh the normal batteries in uh our uh the cells, yeah?

Yeah.

Uh thes these are the kind different kind of batteries that the company makes, right? So. And dynamos. Um.

Does that mean like a wind-up one?

yeah, yeah.

A wind-up remote.

So uh I don't know if even if you want to consider this,

but these are the different things that the company makes, so th they'll they'll.

Okay.

since uh they'll come internally from the company, they'll be eas uh cheaper, uh all these options.

Mm-hmm.

So the third one is uh the kinetic energy ones.

You could make the hand dynamo into an exercise bike, and then people could exercise whilst watching T_V_.

Yeah.

And charging their remote,

Yeah, and stop worrying about the whole R_S_I_ from the remote thing,'cause that's just.

yeah.

Yeah, it's a good option.

So what was what was this k ka

The the kinetic energy one is uh that e uh uh they are usually modern watches, since our hand keeps moving, it keeps the watch ticking.

Okay.

Uh yeah.

But I dunno i if it is a good idea for a remote control, because it'll just lie there for a long while sometimes.

Mm-hmm. For a remote,'cause you Yeah.

But as soon as you pick it up it moves and then again it uh re recharges or something.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And the fourth option is the solar cells, which are also made by the company.

Yay.

Environment friendly. Okay um so I'll list things and then we can come back and discuss what what we think from uh everybody's perspective.

Yeah.

There are different cases that can be provided. They can be basically the shape of the cases, they can be flat, they can be curved with uh one-sided curved and one side flat,

Mm-hmm.

and they can be curved with on both the sides.

Mm-hmm.

These are the three options, right? Um.

Um you mean this would be like the the overall shape of the remote control, yeah,

Yeah, would it be flat on both the sides, would be curved from one side, or whatever.

mm-hmm. Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm mm-hmm.

uh there were different kind of supplements available, um like it can be in plastic, rubber, wood, or titanium, right?

Mm-hmm. Okay.

Wo wo wood.

Did you say wool?

Wood, wood.

Wood. Oh right.

Yeah. Not wool..

A fluffy remote..

Yeah, you'll understand why when we get to my presenta.

Oh really? Okay. Um the.

Huh.

so uh we can use even um a certain titanium is also used uh in the company to make uh uh some space design equipment, so it's kind of um uh it'll be probably nicer to use, because it relates to the overall image of the company, but uh it cannot be used on a double curved surface. If we choose this, we cannot use titanium. For for these two we can use titanium, wood, rubber, or plastic.

Mm.

Yeah?

Mm-hmm.

Uh okay, the interface options now. So we can have push-buttons, like most remotes do and our company is an expert in making push-buttons.

Ooh. Uh we can have scroll wheels like the ones on um uh mouse pointers uh uh.

Sony.

Mm-hmm.

Sony Ericsson mobile phones has it.

Yeah, yeah, something like that.

Mm.

So, and they have they can even have an an integrated uh push-button inside the scrolling thing.

Okay.

The scroll plus push. So this is something that has been recently developed by the company, um in the last decade, so not too recent. And L_C_D_s, we can have L_C_D_s. So these two are recent and and this is q quite old.

Mm-hmm.

The various electronic options are um uh so th this concerns firs first of all the the chips I I showed you at uh so there's there's a chip behind this one, right? The P_C_B_ is uh inexpensive, so we can put put in uh whatever we want, but the various integrated circuit options are, we have either a simple one

Mm-hmm.

or a regular or advanced. And uh the price goes up as we go down, obviously.

Mm-hmm.

Um okay, so the good thing about uh wh wh why why we would want to use advanced u why we might want to use advanced is that L_C_D_s can only come with the advanced chip.

Mm-hmm.

Um the we need regular or advanced for uh scroll wheels. Right? Um and the chip basically includes the infra infrared sender.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Uh besides this in electr under electronics uh also the company has started making a sample sender, which is did not explained what i what it was, but I'm guessing that uh so they have a sample sender and a sample speaker. So I'm guessing that uh the sample speaker is probably something like um uh you know, as soon as you press a button, it it mm uh give gives you feedback, one five or whatever. Yeah, on.

Mm-hmm.

Um and uh I dunno whether sample sender sender has to do something with voice recognition or not, but anyway.

Mm-hmm.

So, these are the different options that we have. Okay, so th that's that's basically now now uh I think that uh we can integrate um uh you know, uh the user interface uh and uh the marketing things in that, keep uh taking out things from this and uh underlining things that are important, yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Excellent. Do you wanna stay somewhere near the board, so that if we need to.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah.

you can sit down, but just we might need you to leap up.

Okay.

What are you, PowerPoint, or.

Um I have some PowerPoint, yeah.

Right.

Okay.

Oh..

Do you think these pens can give you cancer of the hand?

'Kay.

Some sort of radiation?

No it's got its little camera in there, plug it in.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, it should should do it. Yeah.

'S a

Right, interface concept.

Okay. Um to be honest actually, I mentioned some some of the things which which could fit on the on the this talk um this time, I m I mentioned them already in the previous talk.

That's fine.

So um yeah, this time um I might not have them on the slides but I I can just mention them aw again.

Mm-hmm.

Okay. So um I thought um I would also include the definition of user interface um so it's the aspects of a of of a computer system or programme which can be seen uh by the user um and and which uh the mechanisms that the user uses to control its operation and input data. So this would p includes things like shape and size and buttons and um voice recognition as well, and colour, and so on.

Mm-hmm.

Um um the method I employed this time was a again having a look to related products and mainly on the internet and then um analyse them uh from the point of view of user fen friendliness and also um whether their appearance was was pleasant. Um and then um this uh this um this can help us to decide which features we want to incorporate in our product.

Mm-hmm.

So some findings um um. So in in the case of many user interfaces, they're just so full of buttons that it's actually uh hard to find the ones you you really um want to use and um and it's just confusing, it takes y know time to learn. Um okay, and I thought I would just quickly show some of them that I found. Okay, some of them are here.

Um well the picture is not very clear, but as you can see, there are actu oi, oh oh oh,.

sorry for that.'S go back.

That's nice one.

Ah, no, please. Okay, so yeah, they're quite big and have many many buttons. Actually of the of all these I personally p prefer this one, because it's it's the smallest and and with with least uh with the smallest number of buttons as well. And I would say even the appearance of some of them is kind of not so nice.

Ugly.

Mm.

Um okay. So let's carry on with this. Um So uh um o other findings um some new things um used, uh some of them were mentioned already by our Technical um Designer uh. Our own company has developed a new in user interface uh wait, no this is not the one. Okay, there is a we can uh include voice recognition and um it allows i it's possible to record eighty different voice samples on it.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Uh so uh this uh this one was already mentioned uh the L_C_ display.

It's yeah.

Um s another new development is a scroll button, which was also th also already mentioned. And uh our own manufacturing division ha has uh designed a new um uh programmable speech uh mm sorry uh speaker unit I guess it's it should be.

Yeah.

Um and this means that um once uh uh it it it comes together with a voice recognition, but it's once once the mm um gadget uh recognises uh the voice of the speaker, there can be a um pre-programmed answer, for example, you can pick up the remote control and say something to it like hello and it says some hello and your name or whatever.

Uh-huh, hi yeah.

Mm.

So I mean this is also one of the n dev new developments which we might consider if we wanted to include.

Uh sorry, uh can you go back for a second? Um uh are you sure wha what this means, a spinning wheel with the L_C_ display? Uh oh yeah are th

It's like the like you said, no? The scroll scroll wheel.

Yeah, you can't.

No no, the scroll button is a different thing. I I have a picture if you just a moment, I'll I'll show you. I wasn't completely sure myself, but I think it's just like um it's it's a wheel, it's like not separate buttons.

Oh okay, the iPod thing, yeah.

Look, this one here.

Oh, it's like the iPod.

But I'm I'm not really sure whether whether you can really turn it round,

G yeah, no, you can.

it's like you press this or this or.

Uh it's the iPod uh kind of uh.

It's like it's like where you you know how you have your your mouse, and y you go round and i it's kind of like that and you spin round

Uh-huh.

Alright, right. Okay, okay.

and it yeah. It is.

So instead of going down you just spin yeah, yeah.

You just go round

Mm-hmm.

and it is a bit weird at first, but it's actually very like fast.

Uh-huh.

I like the the wheels that click on the side you you get'em much slower,

Mm-hmm.

so it's quite good if you like searching quite a lot of stuff.

Right.

Do you know, if you're lookin if you're th scrolling through the A_ to Z_ of your music and you're looking for something at T_, then it's a lot faster than the wheel,

Mm-hmm.

Uh-huh.

Mm-hmm.

but you've got a lot less control over it.

Right. So maybe I should include that here as well,

Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Yeah.

L_C_D_s um plus spinning.

Uh.

Yeah.

Okay, and the personal preferences are pretty much the same as as as last time.

Mm-hmm.

It it has to be small, simple. Okay, we decided to include voice recognition, so to have the standard uh major buttons like on, off, um ch the channels and and then um volume and then the rest would be a menu on the screen. Um and I I also thought uh if we want to keep it small and nice um and actually I I quite like the idea of a scroll a scrolling button, I thought it could be for for voice like, I dunno, it mm like on a um i like it used to be on Walkmans or something. There is uh I think there is no reason why we couldn't use something like this for for the remote control.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

So yeah, that's uh that's it.

Excellent. Okay, straight to trends, and then we can discuss it all at once.

Right.

Okay, I've put the copy of the presentation in um the.

The project documents.

yeah.

Excellent. If you two could both do that as well, in case we need to refer to it.

Mm-hmm.

Cool.

Here it comes. Okay.

Fabulous. Okay, cool. Um so what I did was to search the internet to come up with market trends and you know what users are gonna be wanting in the the near future.

Mm-hmm.

Okay. Right. Now, the first aspect is apparently twice as important as the second aspect, which is twice as important as the third a aspect. So, I mean the the easy to use thing is fairly low down on the.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

which I think given the target group is what you would expect, really.

Mm-hmm.

Um, you know, people want something new, something technologically innovative and different, so the whole idea with the L_C_D_s and the spinning and the colours and the voice recognition is quite like, quite the thing to go for.

Okay.

And um, yeah it wants to look fancy, fancy look and feel.

Mm-hmm.

So um uh maybe uh as you're discussing things, is it okay if we just uh keep highlighting things here?

So.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Right. So mm uh so it.

That's over on the interface,

yeah,

if if you could put.

so probably voice recognition is is kind of important, right?

Yeah.

Um and an

And maybe the L_C_D_ and spinning.

yeah. Okay, I I have a point about L_C_D_,

so that means we need an advanced thing.

I dunno if it is the right point to take it up. W uh L_C_D_s are basically for feedback, right, to the user who's pressing buttons,

Mm-hmm.

Mm.

and the feedback can come through television itself, so do we need an L_C_D_ on the remote?

Depends how fast your television runs, really, don't don't you think? I mean we've got one of those um Telewest boxes

Mm.

and you put the number in the remote and then you wait and then it goes to the T_V_ and then you wait, and then it comes, so i it actually takes quite a long time. And if you get the number in wrong, then it's a bit of a pain,

Mm.

Right..

so I think, you know, a screen on the remote would probably cut down your time on that. But like remotes do tend to get f thrown about a bit.

Right.

It it is also quite nice though to to have something here so you don't interrupt the picture on the screen,

You know? Yeah.

so if you're watching something.

That's true, yeah, that's also.

And i it would be like I mean if you could make it integrate with the T_V_ then it could come up with new information about what's on, and you could just see that on the remote rather than.

Yeah. Rather than having to interrupt your viewing pleasure.

Yeah.

Right.

But um I think maybe a way to do it would be a similar way to how you have your mobile phone, you know, like you have the slidey ones and you have the flippy ones and then the screen's protected so it doesn't actually get scratched.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

So you can have like what looks like a normal remote control, you know or like a minimalist remote control.

Yeah.

So you got your buttons one to nine, your on and off and your volume on that

Mm right.

and then if you want to mess about with it, you flip it open and,

And then you can flip it open.

Okay.

yeah.

So now we seem to have a consensus that L_C_D_s are definitely the way to go because of style and.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, so that kind of decides your whole chip thing.

Right.

Yeah.

You you agree? Maarika, yeah?

Yep, yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

So L_C_D_s, yeah, definitely.

Okay?

Go on.

Cool. Okay, apparently, fruit and vegetables will be providing inspiration.

Sorry, I discovered clip art. Um so these will be an important feature for clothes, shoes and furniture. So I mean, I'm taking this to mean, you know, curviness. Do you know?'Cause you don't tend to get flat vegetables. You know?

Yeah,

Mm-hmm.

and possibly even uneven,

Yeah, bit of asymmetry and stuff.

like not not symmet yeah.

But that would be a good way to to get in the whole um R_S_I_ issue in there,

Right.

because I mean if you think most people use the remote control with their right hand ha right hands

Mm-hmm.

so you wanna you curve it so that it's suitable for use with the right hand.

Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Um yeah

Mm-hmm.

, I'm not quite sure about the relevance of material will be spongy. Um.

Something a bit squishy and.

Yeah,

Yeah, we we have

but I mean y you have to.

So it could be like a rubbery.

we have rubber,

yeah, uh-huh.

but there is a problem that I forgot to discuss with the um with using.

Well I suppose you wouldn't get a remote uh an electric shock off your remote control if it was made of rubber..

Yeah, and it'd help if you drop it, it protects it as well.

Yeah, yeah.

To some degree.

So if if we use uh latex cases, they won't allow us to use solar cells, as an energy source that is the constraint,

Uh-huh.

so um we could use titanium, wood or plastic uh or uh.

Or if we want to use the the latex, then we have to go with one of the other um power things.

Yeah, w energy source.

If it's made of rubber you could get the kinetic energy fairly easily there,

From from bouncing it.

you could just bounce it up and down.

Yeah, tap it on the desk, yeah..

You can have it as like a little ball to bounce, that flips open..

Yeah. Um so yeah, um okay.

Mm. So probably double curved surface is the way to go, yeah,.

Yeah, yeah.

Mm yeah.

Or or curved at one end and flat on the top, because I I'm not sure if it is flat on both both the sides, then ho how much easy would it be to reach for buttons, etcetera. Um.

You have to have a certain element of flatness, I think.

Yeah.

It it depends on the whole ergonomics of it, you know, it's like how you put your hands so y it's the least movement basically.

Yeah. Yeah, singe single side curved or double side curved does not say too much, does it?

Uh-huh.

It uh.

No, I d I don't think it makes a lot of difference. I I have one of those s slidey phones and I mean the back is essentially straight,

Mm.

Mm.

but it's curvy, so.

Uh I think uh.

Yeah,'cause the.

Besides, you have four sides to a thing, so I mean does curved one side mean one side is straight

Yeah.

Right.

and, you know curved two sides means the whole thing is just a big curvy p thing?

Right. Di now did it say anywhere in your research material about this sliding stuff uh

Dunno.

because um according to the information that I have, I think uh the onl only options that we have with the case is are these three. Uh eith either we have uh a flat surfaced uh case or a curved surfaced case.

Yeah.

It does not say anything about uh whether technically, you know, this this stuff is available at all.

Nothing to open them.

Yeah. Uh it's it's more about the protecting the L_C_D_, which I think is where it came from.

Right, yeah, yeah.

But no, my research didn't tell me anything, which is why we have all the pictures,

'cause I had nothing better to do with my time.

Right. Okay.

Okay, cool.

Anything else? What've we got?

Uh combine style with a level of functionality, um beauty and practicality and a thing of beauty and p function.

Cool, thanks.

Okay, so.

Okay?

Thanks

Looking at what we've got, we we want an L_C_D_ display with a spinning wheel.

Yeah. Let's let's try to r rub off things and.

Yeah, rub off some of those.

yeah, so um.

hand dynamos are definitely out, right? You you got a wind dynamo, yeah.

Yeah,

Yeah uh-hum yeah.

it's not that's not streamlined and sexy, having a having a wind up.

Okay. Um kinetic energy does seem to have some kind of uh uh appeal,

I think tha

but uh it's.

It's about the practicality of it really, isn't it? You know?

Yeah. As against a watch, which constantly keeps moving,

I mean if.

this this thing will have to be tapped every time, which which might be very frustrating for the user.

Depends how much how much movement it really needs.

Kinetic energy it needs I don't have too much technical information on that,

Pr presumably if they're suggesting it, then we could use it.

yeah, right. Okay, let's keep it option uh keep an option,

I'd I'd keep it on.

yeah. Um the flat co completely flat case is definitely out, right? It has to be at least curved from one side, yeah.

We don't want that

Yeah

it's no it's not not vegetable.

it's yeah..

Um okay, we still have all all the options. Wood, do you think wood will be a good idea?

N wood is I can't n how do you uh I mean you can't keep it really small uh

Mm.

you can't make it like thin and.

Right.

I can't imagine a m wooden remote control.

Mm.

The wood thing. Because you need to you n you need to put all the technology in, so I mean if the case you add the case and it it becomes a bit bulky

Yeah if if it is really thin if it is really thin it it's likely to break,

wi mm-mm yeah.

Mm.

it's it's much more uh.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and given that we're we're looking at more spongy material preferences, I ha would think maybe rubber or plastic is more.

Yeah.

U yeah wood is not really yeah.

Right.

Well it's not very cleanable either,

Yeah.

That's true.

do you know.

Yeah.

It's it's not a practical I mean it's it's alright for a table, but for a remote control, you know.

Yeah.

And splinters and stuff and.

Yeah,

Yeah.

okay wood is out.

It just m doesn't make any sense, I think is the thing with wood.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, in the case of remote control not really.

Okay, now for the really interesting stuff, the interface.

Yeah.

Right, so uh the the push-buttons is is our expertise uh in the industry,

Yeah.

but uh it seems to be out of trend, you know, nobody seems to be.

You have to have some push-buttons, don't you?

Yeah, but you um I think for for the channel numb uh channel numbers you still need them, wouldn't you?

Mm-hmm.

Mm right.

G yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so for channel numbers but.

Oh, if if we have L_C_D_ displays, that opens up a whole world, you know, if you have an L_C_D_ display, then mm you can select almost everything on the L_C_D_ display.

But I th yeah but I think the L_C_D_ display is kind of yeah, it's faster

Just for fast.

with a m yeah and w if we dis and when we s um discussed that we might like this flipping open thing, then I mean y you can use it as a normal remote control,

Right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

but if you do want to use L_C_D_, then you flip it open,

but it's it it's more time-consuming.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think this is going back to the the graph at the beginning that I made, where, you know, the buttons that people use all the time, you want buttons for them and everything else menu-driven.

Mm right.

And it.

Yeah.

yeah L_ L_C_D_.

So uh in in the buttons we have for the channels also we have options. Do you do we enumerate everything from zero to nine? Or do we have just uh channel plus, channel minus, just to just to scroll?

No, no, I mean mm we we definitely need the the numbers,

The numbers.

because it's uh otherwise people don't want to flip through all the channels. Um.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Do we need them on as buttons or do we need them as L_C_D_?

Or on the L_C_D_ we can, you know.

G yeah,

Yeah, I would say buttons,

I would think buttons, yeah.

Buttons.

because it's yeah.

Okay.

It's it's the.

So mm.

I think the thing is, so if someone just wants to turn on their T_V_ and put on a channel, then it should be easier to use than any other remote,

I

Mm. Yeah.

Yeah.

and then if someone wants to, you know, change the contrast on their T_V_ and they should be able to do that and it should be accessible,

Alright.

but, you know, I mean most of the time.

Mm-hmm.

I mean there's a limit to how much the biggest techno geek can spend fiddling with the T_V_, I think is the the the issue there.

Right.

Yeah.

Okay, so buttons definitely in but oh shall we uh try to draw a prec um.

I think that's what you guys are gonna do next,

Uh okay.

so if we put down the key um things that we want.

Okay, okay, so the components.

Yeah.

Right, so uh what about the the scrolling uh?

Yeah but n I I'm not completely um completely clear uh I yeah, about the spinning wheel. So I think it it doesn't make sense to have both like a scrolling and spinning thing,

E either or.

it's uh you can al include everything in the spinning if you

G yeah.

Just spinning and not scrolling, I would say.

yeah, yeah,

I would say the s the s the spinning goes at a high speed to th to the scrolling wheel,

in that case.

Yeah.

so you have to decide whether you you know, you want to be going so fast or not. But I mean the the thing with this whole if y you're planning on making it out of rubber, on the basis that it's spongy, then I'm not sure how well a scrolling wheel would work.

Hmm.

Mm um.

But if you've got a if if you've got a flipped thing, effectively it's something that's curved on one side and flat on the other side, but you folded it in half.

Ah, but I mean you can.

Yeah, but y your spinning wheel tends to go to one side.

Th that would be on one side, uh-huh.

I'm not sure it'll be a good idea to construct the whole thing out of rubber. Uh i it.

No, I think it's just the casing rubber on the outside.

Yeah, I um I think so too, I mean the case would be.

You want an outside of rubber

yeah the case would be rubber and the the buttons,

and then open it up and.

Or or at the corners, edges, just the edges covered by rubber or something like that.

Yeah.

rubber buttons, but then.

Yeah.

Everything else in plastic or even titanium if we want to use it.

Yeah.

Or maybe like interchangeable cases.

Mm-hmm.

'Cause I know like we're going back to iPods again n the whole spinning wheel, but I have like a you know, obviously my iPod's not made of rubber, but then I have a little rubber case that goes over the top of it

Right, right.

and I can change the colour, theoretically, to match my outfit.

Mm.

Right,

okay, so so that gives us a more trendy look as well. Um.

Yeah, I think the spinning wheel is definitely very now.

Right. Yeah, and uh we're going more for the trends than for the usability anyway, right?

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

That's right,

Yeah.

that's what they're after.

So I'll rub that out. And uh colours can be provided with the case rather than Um but we still need to te think about the colour of our remote as such, you know, just keep it black, or.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah I think we um it was a a requirement that we use our um th the colours of our company, so would it be like yellow, grey and black or something, or.

That doesn't fit in with the whole vegetable theme though.

I guess.

Yeah, does.

Bananas..

Yeah. Banana's yellow, yeah, definitely.

Yeah, but I mean do you think we could incorporate the colours of the company into the buttons and then make the colour of the main remote the colour like vegetable colours, do you know? So you could have like.

Mm-hmm.

I mean I suppose vegetable colours would be orange and green and some reds and um maybe purple

Green. Yeah.

and that and then you'd pick the buttons in company colours to to match with it.

Mm.

Okay. Um okay, if you g go over to uh the integrated circuits. Uh since we're having L_C_D_s there there's no way that we're will be able to.

We need the advanced yeah.

um what we do need to consider, however, is that the price is going up for the ever every such thing that we are considering, but since L_C_D_s seems to be uh a definite yes,

Yeah.

so it seems to be one area where we would want to spend.

Yeah.

So I'll rub off the other two.

Mm-hmm.

So are we discounting solar energy because rubber's gonna be used in there somewhere or.

That was the.

Oh is oh the constraint was uh.

If.

We can't have solar panels with rubber, so.

yeah.

solar panels with the rubber.

Yeah. So.

Yeah, okay, so we lose that I think.

Shall we go for if we're going for rubber, we think uh on as our case, and then.

Mm-hmm. And the buttons as well, I think. Yeah.

Yeah.

I think uh.

We've got five more minutes.

we'll have uh uh using the simple battery will be a safer option as compared to the kinetic energy one, I mean, a although it does seem uh interesting.

Mm-hmm.

But it does not hold any advantages as such for a.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just a gimmick.

Yeah,

yeah.

mm-hmm.

Okay. Uh okay, so r we understand this better now that uh the the speaker is for the feedback, right? It it says uh the things that you type in or something like that, so.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think if we can if we can include them at not too much extra cost, then I'd put them in,

Ye yeah, we we don't have too much information about it, um.

but if it's Yeah.

Yeah, but it it I think it should be quite cheap because it's from our own company, yeah.

It's from the company, so.

Yeah, okay, so so th this is in as well then, the sample speaker.

Yeah.

Right.

Okay. And the case is curved on one side, but then flat flat, so it's flipped into each other.

Flat on the top. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Can I pull the thing out the back of your computer?

Yeah, sure j

Just so we can.

Sorry, do you want me to.

Nothing, it's right, I'm just There we go.

What does um I_C_S_ mean?

I_C_s? Uh integrated circuits.

Okay, cool. So it's advanced integrated circuits?

Yeah.

Uh oh now I've gone too far.

Uh um we we're definitely going in for voice recognition as well as L_C_D_s, mm.

Yeah.

Yeah. We're on our way. Okay. So we've basically worked out that we're going with a simple battery, the advanced chip

Right.

and a curved on one side case which is folded in on itself, um made out of rubber

Yep.

and the buttons are also rubber. We're having push-buttons on the outside and then on the inside an L_C_D_ with spinning wheel, and we're incorporating voice recognition. That's our overall concept,

Um.

and it's gonna look sort of vegetable,

and be in bright vegetable colours.

Uh-huh. So w w would with have the spinning wheel inside with the L_C_D_, or would it be on the outer.

Imagine it would be inside.

I think it's on the.

Okay.

So um actually that could like really cut down your thing,

Mm.

so you've got your outside, which is like minimalist, and then you open it up and you've got a screen and a spinning wheel, which you can incorporate buttons into.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay.

Um so you've still not got like a lot of stuff in the.

Mm-mm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

You've maybe got, you know like if you're modelling on iPod you've got five buttons and a wheel,

On the Mm-hmm.

and four of the buttons are in the wheel, and the other one's the little bit inside the wheel,

In the centre,

yeah.

yeah, sure.

Mm yeah.

Okay, so now we've got thirty minutes before our next meeting. In the meantime, the Industrial Designer over here is gonna work on the look and feel design,

Mm-hmm.

which I'll presume he'll work out what that means. Um the User Interface Designer will work on the user interface design and the Marketing Expert is going to work on product evaluation. And as well as that, the two designers are going to work together on our prototype following those instructions that we've just come up with using modelling clay and you will get extra instructions from your personal coach.

Mm-hmm.

Cool.

Is that all okay? And anyone who hasn't put their their presentation in the project documents folder, it would be good just so in case we have to refer to it.

Yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Mm-hmm.

Cool, I'm gonna go and sit on my own.

Y ah nobody wants to talk to you.

I know, I'm hated.

Unplug yourself.

Hmm..

I've got a bit tangled up in all this.

So but shall I move away first or shall I stay here with.

I dunno, maybe I would car

we need to.

Question: Why did you decide to use advanced integrated circuits?

Response: They decided to use advanced integrated circuits because the participants wanted to include an L_C_D_ display and spinning wheel, which require an advanced chip.

Question: Can you give me the key takeaways from the meeting?

Response:
* The use of an advanced integrated circuit was partly motivated by the decision to include an L_C_D_ display which inherently needs an advanced chip.
* Vegetable colors were chosen as an inspiration for the color theme.
* An L_C_D_ display with a spinning wheel was decided to be used.
* A curved on one side flat on the other case made out of rubber with rubber buttons was the final decision for the casing.

Question: What was Maarika's stance regarding the case material?

Response: There is no participant named Maarika in the meeting.

Question: Can you tell me again what the overall goal of the meeting was?

Response: The main goal of the meeting was to decide on the key remote control concepts, so that they could make a decision on the components' properties, materials, the user interface and any trends that the Marketing Expert had been following.

Question: What benefit did the participants believe the L_C_D_ plus spinning combination would provide?

Response: The participants believed that the L_C_D_ plus spinning combination would cut down the time it takes to input channel numbers and navigate the television, as opposed to just using the spinning wheel or just using the number buttons.

Question: Were there any questions or concerns that were raised during the meeting that were not resolved or that require further discussion before moving to the next phase?

Response: The provided meeting transcript does not contain any information regarding questions or concerns that were raised during the meeting that were not resolved or that require further discussion before moving to the next phase.

Question: What was the benefit to the raised L_C_D_ display and spinning combination?

Response: The participants believed that the L_C_D_ plus spinning combination would cut down the time it takes to input channel numbers and navigate the television, as opposed to just using the spinning wheel or just using the number buttons.

Question: In brief, what did the group unanimously agree upon?

Response:
The participants unanimously agreed upon the following:
* To use an L_C_D_ display with a spinning wheel.
* To use a curved on one side and flat on the other case made out of rubber with rubber buttons.
* To use vegetable colors.

Question: Was there a plan to incorporate the Kinetic Energy option in the final product?

Response: There was no consensus regarding the Kinetic Energy option, and it was ultimately discarded due to practicality issues, as it would require tapping on the remote to use it.

Question: Aside from the spinning wheel, can you remind me what else was decided for the user interface?

Response: The participants decided on a user interface that provides an easy and convenient way for users to control the device, especially for functions that require specific commands or inputs. It enhances the user experience by allowing for natural and intuitive interaction with the remote.