Okay. Uh door is closed..

Well, let's begin. Because if we have as much time as the last uh meeting, we'll have to hurry up.

I'm listening.

Right.

Um well I'll start with the presentation again, the agenda.

Great.

Yo. So. Uh This one I think.

Uh yeah. Well alright. Um well, I'll show you the notes. It's not as uh interesting as it should be because we just uh had the meeting,

but I'll show them. We'll get your presentations again on the conceptual design. Um Then we'll have to dec decide about the control, the remote control concepts. I've put a f uh a file in the project management folder, which says exactly uh what kind of decisions we should take.

Mm-hmm.

So this time we exactly know what to decide about.

Alright, great.

And then we'll close again.

Alright.

Uh Well these are some examples, but we'll talk about them later. We'll first look at your uh presentations. Alright?

Mm-hmm.

Walter will uh start again this time?

Yeah, great.

Yo.

Alright, Trendwatch.

'Kay.

Right. I will speak about uh latest trends trends, latest fashion updates, and uh things we must not do.

'Kay.

Uh the trends. It's very important that uh the control is fancy looking and good uh feeling. Uh this because of our last model was very functional, but it uh people didn't like that, so our new mo model must be very good-looking. That's uh something you uh have to take a look at.

Mm-hmm. Alright.

And uh the feeling has to be very great. Also the menus and things like that they have to they have to feel great.

Alright.

Um there's a minus uh two times here, because this is the most important point. This is uh two times as less important,

Less..

and uh same for this one. Um, technological technological innovations, that's uh regarded very highly too.

Uh such as an uh L_C_D_ screen, uh speech uh acknowledgement, as we uh talked about earlier.

Well, yeah.

So we have to have uh something like that, like we uh.

L_C_D_ and our uh our fronts.

Right. Uh the last point is easy to use. Well I think that uh speaks for s for itself. I don't know who's uh who's going to look at that.

Easy to use?

Well, easy to use uh s is a bit uh contradictionary with the first uh.

Yeah?

I think that's your ta

Functional is not an issue, and then easy to use.

Yeah, I know.

Well we have to choose one of them..

I think we have to go for the first one.

Yeah..

Mm.

It's the most important one. So we have to uh take that one.

Okay.

So it it it isn't very important that that it works easy.

Well something fancy looking can be can be easy to use.

But it has to look great.

Yeah. We'll we'll look at uh.

You Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

We'll see..

you can make a very complicated uh uh remote anyway, so ease of use It's not a very comp complicated device.

Yeah, right. But the most important thing is that it looks great and people say wow, that's real great uh great concept.

'Kay.

Alright.

Alright. Uh these are the new colours of this year.

So it must be very bright, very colourful.

People like this.

So we we have to think uh in this direction.

So.

So i set your mind to it.

Well.

Findings? Fashion update? Fruit and vegetables are cool.

Uh you think?

I am told..

The group we are targeting is uh very pleased with fruit and vegetables.

So we we we might cons consider in front of uh in in that sort of uh way.

Yeah, well.

Bananas.

Uh furthermore uh material, that's your part, should be very strong. I was thinking of something like uh well uh iron plate over it,

Mm.

maybe in a colour or something,

Yeah.

that looks so f really flashy but it it is also strong.

B

And that's uh also for the younger public.

Well the the handy thing about our fronts is that we can follow these trends e ev every year. Th this year it's fruits but next year it's it's something totally different.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah.

But I think we can all make the the fronts of titanium or something uh really thin.

Yes.

So it looks very heavy but you can still uh use it very easily.

Yep, alright.

Mm.

Well, the don'ts. Older people like dark colours and simple shapes. Well we don't want uh older people,

we want young people.

So uh we're gonna turn that around.

Alright.

We're gonna have real uh cool shapes and lots of colours. Right?

Wood is popular. Aha.

Okay. We don't want wood.

Yeah yeah yeah.

Yeah, among the old people, yeah.

Old people. So, that's it for me.

Alright. Nice, uh well show us.

Right, I am going to tell you something about the components design. Uh again I have uh put up the specification properties. This uh so um uh the different uh components of the of of the device. And the materials? Um I have heard several things, so I uh I'll have to change that on the way. But uh the case? Uh I suggested uh in the previous meeting hard plastic. But uh as you indicated uh it should be strong.

Yeah, we should change that.

It should feel strong. So maybe plastic is not uh sufficient.

Well maybe it it it is,

We should move to uh something.

but it doesn't look strong. So maybe.

Well yeah. Y Hard plastic i is of course uh pretty pretty tough, but it doesn't have a really really tough look. So.

No no no.

But we still have to look at our price of course. Because uh if we want an L_C_D_ uh window etcetera uh.

Yeah. Also Yeah. Mm-hmm. But we'll return to that.

Yeah?

Uh the buttons of course rubber, I think everyone agrees. And electrical cables, copper is all pretty basic stuff. The chips made of silicon, I guess. I think that's the best uh way to do it.

And infra infrared l LED is uh just a simple bulb.

Then I've uh had a few findings, made a few findings. Uh the target audience product style. Um it's uh um generally the case that uh senior and wealthy people above uh forty five years old uh like, as you said, uh particularly the traditional materials as such as wood and materials such as that. They also like straightforward shapes and luxurious style. But of course that's not our uh things this. So this is things we must not do.

Yes.

And then we have uh young uh and dynamic uh people, which is of course our uh group, the people we aim at. Um under forty five years old. Uh they like soft materials uh with primary colours. Soft materials is of course uh agai again a bit a contradiction with uh our uh material choice of what you said, that uh it should be hard an and and and and strong looking.

Mm. Yeah.

Yeah.

But they like soft materials, uh so we might uh we have to consider that. And also they like curved round shapes. So not uh too formal like like uh the older people want. And if uh also a finding but not very ap applicable here, that sports and gaming devices such as uh discmans for jogging and that those kind of devices, gaming devices, should define the characteristics of the device. But uh since we don't have a really a sports or gaming device, so we don't really have to consider that.

Sports uh, they're uh that uh are accessible on on your L_C_D_ uh window uh

Soccer fronts. Mm.

Huh?.

Mm.

That's nice..

Hmm.

All the results?

Well I also have um several examples of uh styles,

We keep coming back to the fronts..

Yeah..

so you can get a clear picture of uh what I mean.

Yeah.

Uh these are the basic uh older older peoples' stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was not very uh interesting uh, very classical looking,

Mm-hmm. Nai. Uh no.

but that's n that's not what we want.

Hmm.

We have these kind of things. I don't know what exactly they are.

Fruity. Fruity.

It looks like Well you know uh you recognise the shapes,

it's very primary colours, uh bright colours and uh round shapes.

You also uh see uh this device, it's not very round and Fruity of course. Yeah, it uh.

It's t terrible.

That's true.

Alright.

And uh well round shapes, primary colours.

You can see it all here. And of course uh this famous device.

Hmm?

I think as you know something uh some devices like this.

Yeah, alright.

So to give you an idea of uh.

Well it's got a strong look, this. Yeah.

This has a strong look. Although it's plastic, it's it's grey to to to give it iron look.

Yeah, it still has a strong look.

Yeah. And it's round.

That's uh.

But then you are losing your fruity colours.

Yeah. Well we have to make a.

Well you can make th th th that middle ring can you you can make another colour. So uh those kind of things you can you can combine.

That's true.

Well we can't really make a round uh a round remote control. I don't think that's very practical,

No, it isn't.

but But uh it's important to to uh to think about the colour.

Okay.

Because if we make it grey or or silvery looking, it it does make it a lot more uh does make it looking a lot more stronger.

Yes.

'Cause if you look at this, it it doesn't look very very strong,

Yeah but the.

becau But this is plastic, and and this too, but.

But it doesn't have to look strong. The the results are, the feel of the material is expected to be strongy.

The feel? Uh alright.

The feel.

So, if you ti

Well.

And it it doesn't have to be strong, also.

Well.

Nah yeah the feel.

You you Maybe you should have uh some some coloured titanium or something.

Only the feel..

So it it looks pretty but it feels strong.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

Oh.

And I Then I have some more findings. Um uh about the energy energy source of the of the device,

I agree.

uh I uh suggest uh the basic battery. I uh got some other um uh uh energy sources of course. But solar energy is not very practical inside a house, because you don't have a have a lot of uh sun.

And uh kinetic and and and dynamos are are not very practical, I think, for uh for a simple remote,

that's a bit, oh, that's a bit uh That's a bit uh much.

No titanium..

And I also suggest uh as a shape uh a double curved case.

Uh the disadvantage of that that you can use no titanium. That that's the information I received. If you use the curved case, uh a curved case, double curved then you can't use titanium.

What do you exactly mean with double curved?

Now uh this uh to give it a more modern look.

And uh now the the shape, yeah, a curved case. Um yeah I think uh sort of triangle-shaped bottom or something. Uh a more modern look not plain, long box style, but.

I dunno.

Double curved?

I'll draw it,

It it mean.

Yeah. Yeah..

Yeah, well okay..

but maybe later.

And it makes uh it gives it a more u user friendly shape, than if you have uh. Um anyway.

Um f as uh for the buttons, simple push buttons. No uh otherwi uh no um difficult scroll things or some uh things like that, because it makes more complex and expensive. And, uh as we agreed, we don't use a speaker or a sensor or um uh speak uh speech uh controlled device.

Yeah right..

Because it makes it also more complex and expensive. But we do use an L_C_D_ screen, so we uh we do have to consider uh of we have to use a more advanced chip, which is more complex and expensive. But It's worth the trouble I think,

Well.

The buttons can be made of an uh a soft material.

because.

Because people like that.

This soft material thing from uh Yeah.

Uh rubber is a soft material, I guess.

Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Uh soft enough.

Yeah. Right.

So that's uh basically what I want to talk about.

Alright. Okay. We will take that. And then uh Mike? Okay.

Yeah. Well um nah the method um we will um include the buttons as we discussed uh earlier. Um an L_C_D_ s screen will be implemented. Um we must decide where, this meeting.

Um there are new developments in speech recognition um systems, um and they are already being uh used on uh coffee machines. And um well they're cheap, so we could use them now.

Oh That's interesting.

Um it's not really speech recognition, it's more um like you can um talk to the chip, uh record the message and record an answer, and then once you uh talk to the remote, then um he will a answer with the the prerecorded message that you left. So if I say hi Mike, and you have recorded uh hi Mike back, then you will get that.

Oh, yeah, I understand. Yeah.

Oh okay..

Okay. But you can also say that, when you say something, it does some function.

Right.

No it doesn't does not do anything.

No.

Oh. That's a bit uh.

But i it's just a.

But that that makes it cheap.

Yes. I understand.

Yeah it's it's cheap.

Yeah..

It's it's just a an extra function,

But it has no functionality for our remote at all.

and it's cheap.

No

No but.

but that's the gadget they want, or the gimmicks.

Yeah, right..

But it it's n nice for young people.

Young people love them.

Yes, we we should really uh include that one, I think. Um.

They like gadgets. Yeah.

Yeah, ple Right.

Hmm.

If it's cheap. Yeah.

Well, as I said uh earlier I think the uh L_C_D_ screen should be uh positioned at the lower end of the remote.

Um the buttons for screen width and general settings and uh and that kind of stuff.

um we can also do let that kind of functions um be shown in the L_C_D_ screen, uh instead of uh extra buttons.

So you put a menu in the L_C_D_?

I think young people and yeah w well every user would like that. Um the buttons um should be positioned uh positioned the same way as they are on a, well, conventional remote, I think. For the learnability and uh well to keep it recognisable. A voice recognition can be uh implemented. And uh I drew an example,

but it did not work quite the well uh the way I wanted it to do.

Alright.

Can you draw it now of uh.

How How.

Ah.

Hmm? Well I have the I can draw it again,

Can you draw it now?

and I know what I did wrong. I didn't tick the note bo box in the. Um.

Mm. Alright.

How do you uh uh give input to the menu on the L_C_D_ screen?

Um with the uh the up and down and and well buttons and the.

Alright. So you have a menu button, and then you can go up and down.

But then we should also have an uh an Okay button.

Well I will draw what I had drawn on the screen. Yes.

Yeah right.

Um I shall draw this. If it uh works.

button, yeah.

Just uh There is already a blank. Yes? So Yeah.

Yeah..

Mm so have I.

Nah.

. You have to push hard.

I suggest a banana shape.

Yeah.

Because of the fruity uh fashion.

Yeah.

No m Next year that's out.

Yellow and.

Yeah alright, yeah. Just a hunch..

Well these little buttons are a bit difficult to uh draw uh correct.

Yeah.

Those are the the cha the channel buttons of course?

Yeah just uh the numbers..

And then below is the L_C_D_ screen?

These these will be bigger in the the real design.

Alright, yeah.

This must be the Okay button used to uh interact with the L_C_D_ screen.

Mm-hmm.

And with this you can uh, yes, go to through the menus

Yeah.

and that can Um the video button should be uh an apart button,

You've.

Yes.

because you want it to uh t, yeah, to use it fast within one uh click.

Right.

And what's the menu button?

Um it's.

And you you need a you need a speaker.

Hmm?

For the.

This button can also be the Menu button, we use in the menus.

But how did How do you get out of the menu then? Yeah.

Well we we can add another button here, but.

Maybe I you could j just do an an exit with Okay. Uh.

Uh by pe pressing the menu button again. By pressing the menu button again, you go uh out.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's usual the the the d kind of the way it works.

Yes, well but bec because when you push Menu you get in,

Yeah? Yeah?

and then you have to push Okay when you get to a choice.

Ah right. Well you you.

Yeah. But you can men you can press menu again to get out.

Well that's also the Okay button. That's you you should have uh.

No no, we we we should uh add uh a extra Menu button

No.

Or you can put in the L_C_D_'s uh window an option Get Out.

and this the Okay button.

Exit.

Exit.

Ah once you have an extra Menu button, you don't need that that extra option.

Well, it's just a choice.

You have uh redundancy.

But we need a we need a a recording recording button for the speech uh part.

Yeah,

Or don't.

if we decide to uh to implement that, maybe we should.

Why would you put it uh then, and where is the recording uh the microphone?

Well they that could be anywhere.

Where would you put it?

That's very small. It could be uh down here. Um. Well, not here.

Uh-huh.

I yeah I suggest here. But that's just a little gap. Yeah.

Microphone, yeah.

Right, and spea speaker at the back, or something.

Well the speaker and the microphone, I think, are the same uh little hole thingy.

Yeah I understand.

Yeah.

Alright.

Uh but uh we could uh d do, but it's perhaps more expensive, uh the speaker on the back or something.

Well i Um there are a all already being implemented in in coffee machines, so they won't be uh very expensive. But.

Huh?

Alright.

Alright.

Yeah? Okay.

This is my suggested design.

Well, okay, alright. Um then let's have a look at the decisions we are going to have to make.

Um Yes. And oh I think as you can see so, the L_C_D_ screen does look better uh at the lower end, or at the bottom.

I'd I agree.

But.

Yeah, fine..

Fine..

Well yeah yeah yeah.

Move on..

Yeah.

Oh, um I had some uh examples.

I can live with it.

Yes?

You can uh But I did not like it very much, but.

Well these are quite obvious, very ugly remote. Um.

Too big..

Yeah.

They do they don't look fruity enough.

No, well th

Nei They're n they're not trendy.

They're all black.

Yeah. Well not all..

Hey, that one I like..

Uh this is for children but th

Tho Yeah those.

It doesn't look strong..

No.

No.

But it doesn't uh the.

The remote..

W but with the colours i it's a bit the way we're going to.

Yeah, ok Yeah.

Yeah right.

Well this is a terrible.

Terrible.

This is just crazy.

But it it must not look too childish of course huh?

It's it's all too much buttons.

Um this looks.

Too many buttons. That's.

Yeah. This uh these are the L_C_D_ screens. I think we should, if it's um possible, uh one with colours, but.

Nah th It's too expensive.

I don't know uh.

Well, that's too expensive I think.

Too expensive? Alright.

Yeah.

Alright. Yeah.

Well Nah.

But it Yeah..

Okay. Huh.

Ha, even more. N

Mm no.'Kay.

But are we going for a strange uh form?

No, not very strange.

'Cause people like that.

Not not too strange. No.

Not too strange.

It still has t

You can make the the underside, you can make it more round, where the L_C_D_ is.

Yes. Th a a kind of bridge. So it f falls over the hand.

Well.

I dunno if you know the No Nokia telephone, with uh the round uh thing at at the bottoms, s something like that.

Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.

You know?.

Well I have at home a remote with a bridge. It's just a half round half half circle at And then it falls exactly over the hand, and that's very nice. That's It feels comfortable.

Yeah, but people like something uh new you know.

Exotic yeah.

Yeah, different.

We have t Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I will design it, we design it later.

Y yis

So we'll get to that later I guess.

Alright. Great.

Yeah, alright. Um where did I put it? Um conceptual phase, I think this is it.

The specific shape. The.

I got this from our friends.

So Uh yeah the conceptual design.

Our sources.

These are a few examples which we have to decide about. All the the materials from the case, uh the electric cable that's all your uh your side of the story. Um.

Your bag..

Yeah. Um now from the user interface, your uh package? Um where No well, that's more like the buttons where they have to come. And um B a bit of, yeah well, a bit of uh design.

Yeah, this is what we've just done. Right?

Yes, but we have to decide about these now.

But uh we should decide now.

Ah right.

Yeah.

And uh the trend-watching.

Materials are the most, most impor

So as you said, fruity is in, well sells good.

Wow.

Yeah.

Uh these things.

So we have to uh put it in one uh document..

Uh yes. Um so if we uh go through them.

Copy paste uh this story into a into a Word document, and then uh put the answers after the subjects. Yeah.

Not everything.

Well we have to decide all these things?

Yeah but all these examples are uh of a coffee machine.

Yeah well uh Why should I uh.

W we can uh override them?

Yeah.

So.

Well a case? Uh that's me. Uh I suggest Well what do I suggest actually?.

What what kind of properties should it have? Well we just listened.

Uh s solid,

I think we.

yeah. Yeah.

Why don't we um use uh titanium or or a hard, yeah, some kind of metal for the uh the the whole remote except the front.

Do you know the new uh.

That Just like um most cell phones are.

Yeah, I understand.

No no.

Yeah. So we have titanium..

The front is the most important.

Yeah but the non-removable elements of the of the remote, so not the front, could be titanium,

Yeah.

to give that uh strong look.

You know what?

And then the front is made of plastic. And you can put that on and off, and switch it.

Yeah.

But the feel of plastic isn't strong..

No but you have titanium of course.

No but you you have this Yeah.

Uh you have the best of both worlds.

Yeah alright, alright.'Kay.

Yeah, you have the re remote in your hand like this. So you feel titanium..

And of course, yeah, you have the the the plastic front end. But you also have the titanium.

Yeah. Fronts are are cheaper than when they're from plas

Yeah.

Yeah of course, but yeah you have to make a decision.

And I don't know if you can make steel just any way you want it to.

Yeah, but it it's expensive.

I guess so.

Yeah.

Uh titanium I sh I think uh.

Bendable.

Huh? Well, well the.

Bendable.

Well any colour.

According to my sources, uh it's it's totally possible to make an entire uh uh uh Titanium is available, and uh we can uh make uh an entire remote out of it, if we want.

Yeah, then you you paint it in the colour you want it. The plastic is is the colour you want it.

Mm.

Yeah. Paint spray.

Mm.

Yeah alright.

So Yeah.

Alright.

So, we're going for a titanium back and a plastic front?

I've uh.

Mm.

Yeah,

Titanium back, plastic front.

I think that's a nice trade-off.

Okay. Um well I am going to put it in here, uh because we can uh look.

Yeah, great.

I Um solid feel and trendy look.

Yeah.

Alright.

So material, um hard plastic for the front?

Yeah, for the front and then titanium for the back.

Yeah.

For the non-removable uh part.

But then you have the problem, when you have a titanium back, you can't switch it. When you want an other colour on the front, it doesn't match.

Well titanium is neutral..

Well but.

You know?

The titan titanium isn't isn't v very Yeah, i it doesn't uh curves.

I understand.

No uh I nei. Titanium is very No no no, but you know b Titanium is very basic colour,

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Hmm.

and it doesn't really matter if we have a purple front on it or a orange front.

Yeah.

I dunno if if you disagree,

Alright.

Well.

but I think it's doesn't matter very much.

Our customers will use those uh funky uh trendy colours,

Yeah. Alright.

and they don't use uh wood.

Funky customers.

And even if it does uh doesn't match, it will uh People like mm colours that don't match.

Mm. Yeah..

Okay. And well

Alright..

the the electrical cable is just normal uh..

Cop copper uh material.

Yeah.

Excuse me?

The electrical cable uh does.

It's uh from uh our coffee uh.

Yeah copper i just a ba basic uh.

No we don't use an electrical cable.

Yeah inside, but this is for the coffee uh machine.

Yeah in.

Yeah well inside the remote control we use a couple of uh.

Of course.

Yeah, but that's not what's meant here, I think..

Nei.

So external.

Oh external?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well A coffee grind doesn't have Na ja. Never mind the coffee grind.

Well uh

all the all the inside work of our remote is uh standard work. So.

Right?

The chip is normal silicon.

Uh the buttons are normal, etcetera.

Okay? So that's just easy.

Alright. Mm-hmm.

Uh we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our earlier uh remotes. The conceptual specification of the user interface? Um well we have our beautiful drawing.

Well I got a better one here

Alright.

and I will um.

Well you can put that in uh into the shared folder,

The shared folder.

and then I'll put it in our end report.

I will work this out uh for the uh next meeting.

Yes, you can Mm yeah. You can uh put some uh which button is what.

Okay. Um

Yeah yeah yeah.

the trend-watching included these days. And what do we?

We thing that fruit and bright colours are.

Yeah the the the front w

I think we can launch a couple of packages. You can buy a different kind of of of machine,

Yeah.

but it's the same thing, but with another front.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

We can also uh implement um we can also implement fronts from um movies that are very hot.

So.

Yeah that's the whole idea of the front.

And you can you can.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yes.

Uh those kind of things.

Yeah right.

But that's for later on. The fronts y you can do anything with them.

Yeah.

Yeah but if you if you launch uh five different packages like iPod mini.

Yeah, right For the uh initiative uh launch.

Yeah.

For the for the launch, yeah.

Mm.

It's good marketing.

Launch different lines at once.

So e th then a c couple of basic colours. Not not very uh sim Not.

Yeah, n not too heavy. You can always take another pick..

Yeah.

We should not give them the m the most lovely front when they buy it for the first time.

They have to buy it later on.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah..

Yeah right.

Yeah. Yeah.

Come on..

More basic.

We still have to make those fifty million, yeah?.

Very boring, yeah.

Yeah..

Well you can you can give them uh s s three or so,

The most boring fronts possible.

The most ugly.

so that they can uh experiment with it and that they want more.

Yeah, right.

Two.

Yeah but you you can have some basic colours, and then we come with the special patterns on them,

Yeah.

Red red, blue and green you give them or something,

and and uh.

Yeah.

and then you can give them uh other ones.

And uh.

Yeah. Alright. Um well the buttons etcetera, we get from Mike. Uh this fruit and bright colours, yeah well I think we'll have to in the next uh half an hour, we'll have to uh s s specify the different uh types we want to launch, when we uh well introduce our remote.

Uh we still have to make We have still have to make the es the the real basic design. Because yeah we have the sketch but.

Yeah. But we we must remember that fancy look-and-feel is the most important thing.

Yes.

Else it w won't sell.

So.

Yes.

Alright, yeah.

Well I'll have to, before I get another warning for five minutes, I'm going to get Where is my mouse? Uh where is my mouse?.

Lost my mouse..

Oh yeah..

Um this is it.

Unbelievable..

Well, um this we have.

Yeah.

Uh basic stuff. Interface we have. Supplements, L_C_D_. Maybe a a cheap voice recording. Well.

Yeah we should do that.

The price?

Yes. Alright. Individual actions.

We all agree on that. Yeah.

Mm.

Industry designer,. User Interface, Mike. You're going to work together on a prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.

Yeah, we can do that.

Together or uh Yeah together.

Yeah togeth.

That's what I got uh to hear.

How Yeah yeah, but how do I.

But bu we stay we stay here or something?

Yes well we'll get it to hear that I think.

But I think so. Th they're saying SMARTboard and that's it.

You can take the SMARTboard..

This is the SMARTboard, so.

Ah right. And take it to our rooms and uh.

Um so you can uh you you are going to make a prototype, and y Well that's includes uh specifying the buttons etcetera.

Ah, specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach..

Yeah. So you'll get it on your em on your laptop. Um well you will go and do something else uh on the project.

Some Some non functional tasks.

Have fun.

yeah project evaluation. So um.

'Kay.

, what are you going to do? Uh I don't know what product evaluation exactly means, but uh you'll get uh the specifications.

We don't have produ product yet,

Yeah.

so kind of difficult..

That's why I uh But uh.

You're fired..

No but.

How long do we still have?.

Well, can we talk about something else? Uh.

Yeah..

Uh no I don't know anything, but maybe uh anyone else uh.

Ajax. Nah.

Yeah. Um.

Yeah?

Will we use uh round buttons or square ones for the for the numbers?

Round I think.

Um round.

Yeah I I I also uh thought Yeah.

Yeah. Round.

To make it as uh as round as possible.

And these uh these s these buttons uh are more uh triangle-ish shaped

Why does.

Curvy. Yeah.

with a square one in the middle.

So you can see you have to up or down.

Ah f fuck you.

Yeah. Yeah.

But now I see the.

And this must be uh volume I think,

Heh?

and this programme.

Mm.

We can't get.

Well most of the time uh up and down is programme and left and right are volume, I think.

Well th th th th th that depends uh.

Yeah..

Yeah, it depends, but If you turn up the volume, you always see this thingy go up..

Well we uh We we j we'll just give them an uh.

Yeah, that's right.

We'll design it,

Yeah.

and then they can give comments on it.

Ts

Yeah alright.

Yeah. Okay.

It doesn't work any more. We can't save them. So we'll just have them uh standing there.

Yeah, I noticed. You can't uh click the corners.

No..

It's a bit uh bit a pity.

It's a real real great thing.

Well we still have uh more than five minutes. Um.

So what are we going to do? I as Project Manager ha don't have a clue..

Let's start the design.

Oh we can uh decide how we implement the feeling from our company into the remote.

Mm.

Well yeah. Um I think um a logo, our company logo, and the slogan should be or could be.

Also the slogan? On the.

Yeah, why not? If there's enough space, you can put uh.

Uh I I'd say only the logo.

We'll we'll.

O Yeah. Me too.

Too much text and it gets too too busy.

Well, our slogan is not very long. It's just a simple.

We put the fashion in electronics.

Well it's quite a long phrase.

What is it?.

We put the fashion in electronics.

But we kree we keep adjusting to the fashion with our fronts. So.

You c But you can put it on the back, on the titanium part. The logo and the and the.

Ah the logo should be on the top I think.

Yeah, right. The logo.

On the top. Yeah. Well in in in the right top corner?

Yeah they do. Well yeah.

Yeah.

Right corner, yes.

And well you c On the back, you can put uh h At the bottom, you can put the logo with the.

Right corner, or maybe here in the middle?

uh the text?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just just small.

Uh yeah, at the back?

But the logo the logo shouldn't be exchangeable, when you get off the front.

Well you c Well uh Yes.

Yeah it it should be hard on the on the on the board,

Yeah well.

Yeah. Yeah.

You can.

and you can remove the front.

The logo can be on on every uh front.

Yeah,

Yeah, but then you must uh really uh yeah push it in or something.

Yeah.

Carved into the material. No, you you can carve it into the titanium at the back.

I l I like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the on the thing.

But am I the only one, or uh.

Yeah, on the backside.

Well, management would like it..

Well n n not not on the front side, I think.

The front side, no no l no slogan.

No not on the front,

On the back Yes, you you can, yeah, push that in,

but on the backside. Uh.

Sorry.

so that it is always be there.

I think it's a nice idea, to make it more recognisable, that the next to the logo you have the slogan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I agree.

To make more uh of an impression.

But not too big.

Not too big. No,

Just uh.

very small. Not on the entire back, but uh just very small.

You have to make this titanium too.

But readable enough of course.

Okay.

Yes, slogan from company on the back with logo

But we'll uh we'll take that uh with us into the design.

Yeah I think over here the logo..

Lo Uh yeah. Or maybe here in the middle, but we'll decide later.

and logo also on the front but not exchange uh Uh? Hmm? Uh when changing fronts.

Alright, that's decided.

Do you do you see a bit of the of the um of the uh titanium? O on the front?

Five minutes left.

Uh maybe if we make this this this lower part titanium,

Yes we could.

the front is the the upper part, and the the bit with the with the L_C_D_ screen. So.

So a bit of titanium between?

Yeah. No no betwe

Yeah.

That's a bit Oh that that's that's pretty cool.

of between we can do but But then you have two parts of front, two fronts that.

No, they have two fronts,

No no no no.

that. You you can.

No?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This enti entire bottom?

Else you you get problems with the L_C_D_. Like dust in it and so things like that.

Yes.

Yeah.

When you exchange all the fronts and it's open.

Yeah.

I already have uh all kinds of uh filth between the mobile.

No, you can you can just And then not a straight line but uh some sort of wave or something.

you can make it go round this corner too where the logo is. Because it has to be uh there all the time you know.

And then the lower part is titanium?

This is titanium. And this is uh.

I think that's nice, yeah.

Yeah. Some some kind of wei weight in it. Yeah.

Yeah. Round forms.

F front.

Yeah. I like that bit of uh titanium also on the uh.

Yeah. With the with the curved edge.

Yeah.

Yep.

A bit like uh a bit like your mobile phone.

Yeah.

Maybe you can show it. It also has the those two distinct uh.

Yeah.

Tada.

Mm bit like this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh it's uh.

Yeah,

What?.

Yeah yeah..

Ah.

That uh.

So round where?

Yeah. Maybe a nice touch, yeah.

So uh a little corner of titanium. We can't uh take a blank one.

Yeah, that's nice finishing touch you need.

Oh, yeah.

Or can we?

Yes, that also sounds uh pretty uh neat.

So this this is the exchangeable part.

I think I'm going to buy it.

We want it.

Yeah, this is the front.

And it's only f twenty five Euros.

Come on.

That's a bit too much, but.

No that's nothing.

No, no no no, but I think uh this looks uh pretty nice actually.

The Phillips remote uh costs more..

Of course, because it's my design but.

Right.

My design..

No our d our design, alright.

Taking all the credit..

Well uh you two are going to work together. You'll get your uh specifications on your uh laptop, and then uh you uh.

Yeah. We'll stay here I guess?

But there's a problem.

Well I think we can, I just It's.

It's not relaxing.

Well we can uh erase an animal I guess. Uh the fourth one.

Yeah. Nah that's alright, that's alright.

But don't erase my cat.

Yeah, o

Uh the fourth one is empty, isn't it?

Oh.

Yeah.

I want to preserve it.

This one is empty.

Yeah.

You have to empty one huh?

Oh, we have a one..

What are you doing chief?

So, you can uh draw a Yeah.

Alright.

Yeah I think we have to wait?

Yeah

Well I'll get a I'll get the message.

until the until the beep goes.

No.

But I don't uh Do we have to stay here,

No, I think uh.

or I think we have to return first.

Yeah.

Well you'll Maybe you can uh keep your uh laptop here..

Maybe.

Or get your mouse. Because it's little bit uh hard to work with these uh plates.

The high powers from above will have to tell us, yeah.

Yeah.

I always have a mouse next to my laptop.

Dream on..

I hate these.

I I don't have a laptop.

Yeah, touch-pads, yeah.

Ugh.

We can uh do a touch-pad on our remote.

Yeah right.

Yeah..

No just kidding. Well we have uh b you have to have a bit of humour in the in the discussions too,

You just have to push harder.

because it becomes too too too too stressy.

And in your remote control. So we put a touch pad on it, and say ha ha.

Aha. This has no function..

Half

Yeah..

We know you'll you'll you'll hate it but.

But uh th youth doesn't care about functio functionality, so.

No.

But they do want some gadgets. So that's wha what we're doing.

It's all about cool things.

Yeah.

And it will sell.

We will be rich.

Bless you..

Well we won't. Our bosses will be rich.

Mm.

We've done too much in the previous meetings.

Too much?

Yes, we've got nothing to do now..

Well, that's not bad, is it?

Well they uh.

No.

I think that's good. We all had uh our talk and we agree I guess on uh several thing, on most uh on things.

Mm.

Its the best remote ever.

So.

Pinball.

Oh. Oh he's totally off again..

Well.

No man.

Yeah you have to push harder..

But when I start here, it's here.

Mm.

Yeah.

So is it.

Yes, but you you get really close to the screen with your hand,

and I don't think that's.

Mm.

Hmm.

Nope.

Recalibrate it.

Where's the good old chalk board with the the green board with the, how do you call it, chalk, yeah.

Yeah.

We can better uh draw a design on this..

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, but we can't.

Maybe if i if that thing is recalibrated, we can draw a thing quick, and then before it uh goes off again.

Yeah. Let's go.

Well.

Finish meeting now.

Finish the meeting now. Alright now we know what to do, so

We'll stay here?

Um.

Yeah. Oh.

Message?

Or we'll get the email.

Maybe w maybe we maybe w m Can we get email here?

No, get away..

Yeah.

Huh? Yeah.

Guess so.

Um I I'm not sure. Maybe you Yeah. Well you'll have to work on this one.

Well we'll wait a few seconds

Yeah. That's a good idea.

and then we'll get an email.

Alright. Have fun lads.

Well.

Yeah.

A happy hol happy holidays..

Good luck..

but you can scratch it off or something. It's better if you have it uh.

Question: Can you tell me any unresolved questions brought up during the meeting?

Response: There were no unresolved questions during the meeting.

Question: Was there a decision made to use titanium for the back of the remote control?

Response: Yes, the participants decided to use titanium for the back of the remote control while the front will be made of plastic. The titanium back will give the remote a solid feel and trendy look while the plastic front will allow for easy switching of fronts with different designs.

Question: Can you summarize the findings from the energy source discussion held during the meeting?

Response:
* The participants discussed multiple energy sources for the remote, including solar, kinetic, and dynamo.
* They decided against using solar energy due to the lack of sunlight indoors.
* The participants also decided that kinetic and dynamo energy were not practical for a simple remote control.
* They recommended the use of a basic battery instead due to its simplicity and low cost.

Question: Can you summarize the findings from the LCD screen discussion held during the meeting?

Response:
* The participants discussed the placement of the LCD screen on the remote.
* They agreed to position it at the lower end of the remote.
* They also agreed to implement menu functions in the LCD screen to minimize the number of buttons on the remote.

Question: What was the suggestion regarding speech recognition during the meeting?

Response:
During the meeting, there was a discussion about speech recognition.
* A user interface participant mentioned that there are new speech recognition systems that are already being used in coffee machines.
* These systems are cheap to implement and could be used in the remote control as well.
* However, the user interface participant noted that the systems they tested did not work as expected. They only record and play back messages.
* The participants agreed to include a speech recognition function in the remote control, but they would need to find a more advanced system.

Question: Can you provide a concise overview of the key outcomes from the meeting?

Response:
Here are the key outcomes from the meeting:

* The participants decided to use titanium for the back of the remote control and plastic for the front.
* The LCD screen will be positioned at the lower end of the remote and will include menu functions.
* The participants agreed to include a speech recognition function in the remote control, but they would need to find a more advanced system.
* The user interface team will work together to create a prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.

Question: Did anyone contradict Mike's idea about the position of the LCD screen?

Response: No, there were no objections to Mike's suggestion to position the LCD screen at the lower end of the remote control. All participants agreed that this was the best placement for the screen.

Question: Did anyone challenge Mike's proposal for the LCD screen placement?

Response: No, Mike's proposal for the LCD screen placement was not challenged. All participants agreed that positioning the screen at the lower end of the remote control was the best option.


Okay. Well, let's start. What are we doing? Oops..

Hmm.

Ah, pinball.

Okay. Okay. Not doing.

Mm. Ah. Hey. Ah.

Uh.

Oh.

Now I have my screen back too..

Very good.

Okay.

Yeah.

we have presentations. So first, it's your turn.

Mine. Oh, great.

Yeah. Isn't it amazing..

Huh..

Yeah. Very interesting.

Uh.

Industrial Designer. Interface concept.

Yes, well uh let's uh talk about the interface uh concept. Uh, first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose, uh show you some samples, uh uh discuss some colours and design maybe, already. And uh my personal preferences. Well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off. The bu uh the mute button to switch the volume on and o on and off. The channels buttons, one to nine, and uh off uh uh zero to nine, and the uh button to choose uh higher channels than nine. Uh the volume and channel quadrants, uh left and right, up and down arrows, to uh do the volume and channel. And the menu menu button to man manipulate the L_C_D_ uh display. Um, I found some uh interesting uh uh samples. Examples.

Um, well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's that they're all pretty uh uh high uh.

Large.

Yeah. Yeah. Large and and and pretty thin and uh and long.

A lot a lot of buttons buttons.

Um, power buttons are mostly at the top uh left or right. Um, well we see the the the same uh arrows. Like there. And uh Yeah, well arrow b buttons can be blue. And what's interesting is the the the icons on the buttons. Some buttons have icons like the play and stop, but we don't use that. But uh, these we we have to choose the right icons, or or letters. Uh this is the V_ for volume, but they're both uh a V_.

So it's it's not really very uh clear what's the function of that.

Yeah.

Um Yeah. So, that's.

Can you go back one page? For the uh menu, what do we use for that? We don't have buttons for the menu.

Uh, well.

Or we may have to use channel of the volume and channel.

Yeah. I thought that was our uh idea.

Okay. But uh.

So, uh how.

You have to put it on the.

Like this.

Yeah.

Or or this. And that the menu button is okay.

Yeah but, has to be clear that you can use the arrows.

Yeah, okay.

Yes.

Uh, so the The icons on the arrows, as well, you mean.

Mm-hmm. Yes. The second one.

Yeah. Uh, well that's something to uh think about..

Okay.

Uh, maybe I'll have something in my uh presentation. And you will see it.

Okay.

Okay..

Um, well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already, or in the next uh meeting.

But uh, as we have to uh to to design the the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours and the logo, I would uh recommend a yellow case. Uh, round edges. The logo at the bottom. And uh, well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour. So, it's good. Uh, recognisable. K so, I think.

Not too much colours.

Uh, no. Not too much.

No, it's not flower power.

But uh No, no, no. But this has to be has to be trendy and uh and.

S okay.

Uh, yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons, and uh and big buttons is my uh personal uh opinion.

Okay.

That was that.

Thank you. So, you're next.

I'm next, okay. Yes. No. Here we go.

Uh, at first we will uh I will f uh say something about what younger people want,

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

our uh group w uh w uh we want to uh sell our remote controls to. And then, I'll discuss what my opinion is about the costs, about uh what battery is in it, what kind of buttons also. First uh, the younger people, they want like soft mat uh materials and primary colours. Like, totally yellow, totally red. Uh, so it's visible. Uh, the shapes are curved and round, like uh you also said. Maybe it's nice to uh get a remote control not like all the other ones, straight and uh flat and long. But to give him the shape of your hand, so you it's easier to use or something like that. But that's just an idea. And then, I'll have to discuss about the costs uh of all the things for the remote control. The battery, there are few options. Uh, I think the best option is to use uh the basic battery. So, everybody can buy it uh at the at the supermarket. Or use uh a k uh kinetic battery like uh within a watch. When you uh shake it a few times, it it's loaded. Uh, the the form of the remote control, I think it's also nice have it curved. And maybe like it's hand-shaped. Uh, so uh you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons. Uh material, you use plastic. Hard plastic uh because uh it won't have to burst uh like in the in one time. And also rubber because the younger people like that, what we see in the research. Uh the push-buttons. We have one new thing uh discovered. It's a scroll push uh thing like a mouse. Maybe it's uh easy to use uh for the channels. When you want to go m move up, you just scroll up and click on the button, if you wanna see the next, uh if you wanna see that channel. And also for the mouse, uh for the volume, it's also uh easy to use. Just scroll a bit up, scroll a bit down. And that's also easy just w when you have a thing like this, and you get it here. You can do it with your thumb. And with your l left hand you can uh push the buttons

Hmm.

uh if you push uh channel one, you can see channel one. The electrics um with a scroll push uh button, we must use regular uh chips. There are also uh simple chips. They are uh cheaper. Um, but then we have just a basic uh uh remote control, and I think there are a lot of those uh things, and people won't buy it any more. They have seen enough of it. And you have also advanced um chips. But that's with the L_C_D_ uh screen. And the costs will increase a lot more. And I think our budget is too low to use and an L_C_D_, and the chip who is more expensive. And maybe it's also then uh thoughtful if we u uh use uh as um different kind of uh shapes for the for remote control, that we then use the primary colours. Like, you get a yellow uh remote control, red one, blue one, et cetera. You have any more questions about this? I think the main thing is we look at the costs.

Yep.

Hmm.

And not too basic, not a basic remote control, who everybody already has.

Yeah. But, thi i uh This is with an L_C_D_? No,

Not with an L_C_D_.

not.

No, isn't.

No.

But the L_C_D_ is easy when you use the scroll uh buttons. Then you can scroll, you see what number, and then you push.

Yeah. But then, what I say, the costs will uh get a lot higher.

But then it's not easy to use scroll uh wheel. If you don't.

Th then you'll see it on the television.

Hmm, yes. But then. Yeah, then you go one down one up. When you scroll.

but l when you see a menu uh on the television, it's like you see uh one to twenty, you go uh uh s scroll up, and push number tw twenty. Yeah

but like we said before, it has to be used on every television. Yeah So you may not be uh.

No. The television must do that. So.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think the younger people will have newer televisions, which can provide our uh remote control.

Yeah but young people have to have all their uh room. And mostly they are smaller. So.

Yes. But that won't be a problem. I think.

Most the times that are not advanced televisions.

No, but then we'll get to the regular uh remote controls.

And I think, what I said, everybody has them uh has them already. And they go to a uh supermarket and buy them uh for two Euros. Uh, and ge and get the most cheapest uh thing. And I think we must look further to uh to devel d develop something news.

Okay.

Uh, can you give an indication in b uh in the cost difference between uh the chip with L_C_D_ or without?

I got it on my screen and it was uh higher. But I don't know uh how much higher..

'Cause it.

That's important.

I think if we have an L_C_D_, it will also sell a lot better.

That's true.

And that might uh bring back the costs uh.

But then we'll I think we must discuss who uh what will be better. If we have a better shape of the um remote control, or better options on it. With a scroll menu, a w scroll thing, and a L_C_D_. And then a flat um remote control. Or, a more hand-shaped remote control, with scroll, without L_C_D_.

Yeah. Maybe you can look how how much it is for the L_C_D_.

I can uh look on my uh.

It's very important.

Uh Note that the push-button requires a simple chip chip. A scroll wheel requires minimally a regular chip, which is a higher price range. The display requires a advanced chip, which is which in turn is more expensive than the regular chip.

Yeah, more expensive. But how much?

Doesn't say..

Oh.

Hmm.

Huh.

Okay.

That's from my manufacturing division.

Okay.

'Kay..

Well, thank you.

Yes?

My turn?

Next.

Mm. So So Yeah. So, my uh presentation is about trend-watching. Uh, I did some trend-watching. It's very important to uh keep up with latest trends.'Cause if you don't, you won't sell. So, well how we did do that? Uh, well we made an investigation of the market, by Trendwatchers. They uh watch in uh cities like uh Paris and Milan. Of course, well known for their uh trend uh trends. And well, uh what did you find? Uh, we have two groups, young and trendy, and the old and rich. Well th and the young and trendy, they uh they starting to like uh fruit and vegetables uh as a theme for n uh clothes, shoes, and also uh products. And um, material? That should feel have uh a spongy feeling. And to get a feeling for what it is, uh here is an image of it. Then the old and rich. They like uh dark colours, and simple, recognisable shapes.

And um, they also like uh familiar material, uh especially wood. Now, another picture.

To get a feeling for this. Well, uh then already come to my personal preferences. We uh aim at the younger market. So, we should also be uh look at their uh trends. However, with trends it's always if there's it's now. It it it might last one year, and next year it be uh can be totally different. And I think we want to sell our product for longer than one year. So, we m must not just only look at what the trend is now, as it might be totally different next year. So, that's uh one thing to keep in mind.

Changing covers..

Yeah. Any questions?

Nope.

No. It's clear.

No.

So now, it's uh Ah, let's see. Now, w we have to decide Well, we have to decide on the concept. So, we have to look at'S next. Components and user interface concept. So Now, we have to make some concept. Maybe one of you can paint it on the board. First, uh user interface.

Uh, uh-uh. How w how we how we make it? Uh.

Yes, a concept on uh.

Just.

Shouldn't we first discuss about like what w we all.

Yeah.

Yeah, but maybe we can paint it. Uh, what do we want?

Yeah, but if I paint with.

I'll paint. Okay.

Well.

Mm.

Something like this? Or Shapes or What do we need?

Mm, yes. What?

Can make several uh concepts.

Yes, okay.

We have this, and we had the idea of an um a more uh uh uh like sh in the shape of your hand.

Okay.

More like something.

Yeah I I I uh yes..

M like Yeah I can't dr I can't draw it.

And you have to.

Uh.

I have to.

Yeah.

I'm not a designer. It's more three D_. Like, um when you have a part here. This is the remote control. And then you have something like th this under it. So, it's easier to get it like this.

Mm.

Yeah.

It's like a gun..

Yeah.

A g.

So, it has to be soft?

Mm..

And it has to be soft, yeah.

Okay. And uh, the buttons?

So, you can squeeze in it and Sorry?

Buttons.

Buttons on top of it. And here. The scrolling. You can do it with your thumb.

No, it won't.

But but i that's the only scroll uh button on it then?

But now we use one scroll button and the other one is here. One till uh uh zero till nine.

Yeah, okay.

But, well there one for the sound and one for the channels.

But but how.

And the b

Yeah.

Yeah. How.

Yeah? Or two buttons.

Okay.

Uh, two scroll uh wheels.

And i if we go to uh.

If uh'Kay c If we do If we use one, then we'll have just a switch on it, and you'll just switch it, and now it's the sound to switch back

Mm.

That's th that's more difficult.

But if we have uh a me Yeah.

It's better in.

If we have a menu, uh how do we uh choose other options?

with the menu uh button. And then you also can scroll uh scroll in it. Just not like all the other ones, with uh this thing, and uh here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow.

Yeah.

Because uh, from h hundred uh remote controls, ninety nine have it.

But if we don't have a L_C_D_ we don't have a menu.

Yeah.

Uh, then we have it on the T_V_, the menu.

Uh-uh.

Yeah, but again maybe th How do we know the T_V_ can handle it?

You don't know. So, there's no menu.

I don't know. It's like some sort of uh teletext option, but we don't have teletext..

No. So you can't use it.

And if we put an L_C_D_ thing on it, then the costs will uh be much higher.

Okay, we make two concepts. One with L_C_D_. One without L_C_D_.

'Kay. But you all like this kind of thing. Uh.

Good concept. But.

With the scroll button.

That's one.

And and this one has to be soft.

Uh-uh.

And this has to be harder, because when it falls, it mu mu must not burst. Or some kind of rubber around it.

Mm-hmm.

It's one. Two. Number two.

And you can and you can uh make the the power button as a trigger.

Like uh.

Yeah. Yeah.

Ah that's nice.

Here. Trigger..

No. But when you handle it, you put it on and off.

Just to uh.

It's not good to use.

Yeah, but I'll zap.

Oh, like a.

Fuck. Out..

Yeah.

No, it's not good.

Yeah.

Now, second concept. One with L_C_D_, one without L_C_D_. Then uh Paint it..

Paint it?

With the scroll thing on, like this?

One with two scroll buttons and one with without. Yeah. Uh, one with a with a menu, and one without a menu.

So?

And the one with with a menu has an L_C_D_.

Draw it..

Unbelievable.

Do I have to do everything. Blank. You have Not so difficult.

Yeah.

But if you put push the the menu button.

Uh, that's the menu. There for the L_C_D_ screen.

Yeah, wh what Yes, but you don't know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose.

You have to For the menu.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. One that way. And one that way. So Then it depends on the cost. S On and off.

But is it easy to use? When you have it on your left side, and.

When it's not too big. Just like a a phone.

Mm-hmm.

M uh yeah, maybe it's better if the uh scroll-wheels are um

Separate, more separate, h yeah.

more separate, yeah.

Yes, okay.

Like, you have the menu button in between uh.

Yeah. On the left a scroll button, and on the right a scroll button. But would it be easy to use then? If it's like you have a big uh.

Very good. Is it better? When you uh the menu, you have to go there there there there.

I also think this concept is not what the young people were looking for.

Yeah.

They were like round curves, uh different uh.

Yeah, okay. That's that's the outside. But now the.

Okay, okay, okay.

First the buttons.

Mm-hmm.

Think we have we have now two buttons missing. The uh um The mute button.

Sorry?

We have two buttons missing. The mute button. And um, the to to uh have to uh numbers

Mute. And the other.

Okay.

Yeah. Not so difficult.

But, uh.

Personally, I think two scroll buttons uh aren't easy to handle.

But how do you wanna solve it?

With the switch button.

Yeah but on the menu that's not uh easy.

No

Then you go down, you switch, you go into the right, you switch, you go down.

like uh Oh, you mean like that.

Yeah.

Uh, then you can also have like uh th um.

A joystick.

Yeah, and joystick, I think.

Yeah. But is it uh Does that break, a joystick? Or a small one just like in a laptop.

Yeah like in a laptop, s uh s some sort of thing. A little bit bigger, with easier thi

Mean, it's better. But how expensive it is?.

I don't know.

Oh. Why do I pay you for?.

Um, well um Better ideas..

Okay.

Or no scroll uh things. Just a shape. And No, no. It won't work.

For the young peoples I think scroll button's good.

Yeah. Uh-huh.

So Think we have to keep them.

Or a remote control more like joystick.

Yeah, but is it That's not expensive than uh Joystick is better. A small one.

A small one like this, like a Nintendo uh k

No just like in a

Playstation thing.

a laptop. Small, round.

Then it's not so big.

No, no, no. I mean the the shape of the remote control.

Oh the sh Yeah, but then you can.

Just like a Playstation thing. Yeah.

So Maybe, if it's possible, it's not too expensive, I think a joystick is better.

A small one. So, please look at it.

No, that's okay, I got.

And on the L_C_D_, how much it costs? Uh, it costs extra?

Uh they're not uh in details.

It's more expensive or less expensive, huh?.

Yeah we I think you get it. So, after this meeting you have half an hour to uh fix it.

Then I have to come with it.

Yes.

I got my personal costs. I I don't I don't know the costs.

Your problem. Not mine.

Then I'll uh make something up.

Okay. So, do we have other concepts? Then for the components, we use a normal battery. Then it's Ch cheapest way, I think.

Mm, yeah.

Yeah, or the or the kinetic uh with normal battery.

No, no kinetic. Kinetic is uh ch makes it more expensive.

Yeah, I think it's uh, yeah, more expensive. Yeah.

So we use a normal battery.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yes.

Chip. Depends on the L_C_D_.

Depends on the scroll.

Scroll.

If we use a scroll, then we have the uh regular chip. If we don't use a scroll, then we can use the simple chip.

Yeah.

And that's.

And uh, we If you use the L_C_D_, we have to

Uh the most expensive.

Yes, okay.

Yeah.

So, depends on the L_C_D_ and the scroll.

If we Yeah.

Okay.

If we No okay scroll-wheel. So, I have this. So, it will be uh the advanced chip, or the uh regu uh or the regular chip.

Okay. So, uh the shapes of the design depends on the L_C_D_ and But, it has to be small. I think.

Or shall we just put it on the pistol thing? And then just put also on L_C_D_ on it?

If you have pistol, it L_C_D_'s not easy. Y y Yeah but.

Just use your thumb.

If you use a phone.

If you Yeah. I use my thumb.

k Yeah, but but then you have it. Like, th if you have pistol, you have it so. And the screen is.

Yeah.

Well, then you have to keep it this way to look at the screen.

If you have a joystick on No, if you have like uh an uh uh a ni a uh Playstation uh game controller.

Yeah.

And you move up, f forward, down, left. Then you have uh just, yeah, a little bit curved. It's not just uh straight.

No. No, no.

That's how we use it. That's why they make joysticks like that, I think.

Uh.

Yeah, but then you look forward.

Uh, yeah, but.

And then you can y

Yeah.

Yeah?

N well, if you have to look at it.

If you.

'Kay. Here's our designer.

If we have uh then something standing here, with the L_C_D_.

Yeah.

Then it goes like this.

Yeah, why not.

If th n well.

It's for the younger people.

Yes, of course.

It's something new..

That's good good.

It's uh.

But the um, it may not break.

Now we put uh rubber around it.

Okay. If that's possible.

Um, Yeah.

Hard plastic, uh the shape, and around it hard uh around it rubber. And the uh the hand shape is also rubber.

Okay.

Or you can uh turn it inside.

I can't see the. But, uh the easy of.

But that's.

uh, th the ease of use wasn't uh the most important uh aspect of it.

Huh.

No, that's true.

Uh, for us it's about to sell it. Uh.

Yeah of course.

This is something new.

Okay. Then this is the design. And the buttons are on the next page. So, depends on the cost. So,

Costs are okay..

um we have one minute.

One.

I think. No.

No. You have more.

More. Seven.

You have still ten.

Next meeting. Thirty minutes. So hurry up.

Oh, that's us together.

You two stay here..

Paint it.

Okay.

Now you have to.

So.

I think it's clear. Check your mail. So.

Yeah.

Yes.

It has to be ready in the next meeting. So.

Cookie.

What? Okay.

Next meeting is called the detailed design. So Everyth everything has to be ready. Thanks for your attention..

Okay.

'Kay.

See you at the next meeting.

Bye bye.

Question: Was a joystick discussed as an option for the buttons on the remote control?

Response: Yes, a joystick was discussed as an option for the buttons on the remote control. The participants agreed that a small joystick would be better than two scroll buttons. They also discussed the cost of the joystick and whether or not it would be too expensive.

Question: Besides the joystick, what other options were discussed for the buttons on the remote control?

Response:
The participants also discussed other options for the buttons on the remote control, including:

* Large, thin, and long buttons that are easy to press.
* Different colors for different sets of buttons to make them more recognizable.
* Icons on the buttons to indicate their function.
* The placement of the power button, mute button, channel buttons, volume and channel quadrants, and menu button.

Question: What were the marketing team’s concerns about including an LCD screen on the remote control?

Response: * The marketing team was concerned that including an LCD screen on the remote control would increase the cost of the remote control as the marketing team was asking about the cost of inclusion of LCD from other participants.

Question: What was their final decision about the LCD screen?

Response: The participants decided to make two concepts: one with an LCD screen and one without an LCD screen. They would then compare the costs of the two concepts to make a final decision.

Question: Why did the marketing team hold the opinion that using an LCD screen would increase the cost of the remote control?

Response: Marketing team hold the opinion that using an LCD screen would increase the cost of the remote control. In fact, Marketing suggested if they include LCD, then the remote will be sell at a good terms.

Question: Besides the cost, what other concerns did the marketing team have about the LCD screen?

Response: There were no other concerns that marketing team have about the LCD screen, besides the cost of the LCD screen.

Question: What were the marketing team’s thoughts on the hand-shaped remote control?

Response: It is not mentioned in the meeting about marketing team’s thoughts on the hand-shaped remote control as they have not suggested anything regarding the same in the meeting.

Question: Were any issues brought up during the meeting that did not receive a resolution?

Response: One issue that did not receive a resolution during the meeting was the cost of the joystick. The participants discussed whether or not the joystick would be too expensive, but they did not come to a conclusion.

Question: What was their conclusion about the hand-shaped remote control?

Response: The participants liked the concept of the hand-shaped remote control. They thought it would be more comfortable to use. They also thought it would appeal to younger consumers.

Question: Was the marketing team in favor of using different bright colors for each button?

Response: It is not mentioned in the meeting that the Marketing team is in favor of using different bright colors for each button.