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DID LINUS STEAL THE RAZER PROTOTYPE?? - WAN Show January 13, 2017_transcript.txt DELETED
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- [0.00 --> 4.00] All right.
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- [10.00 --> 11.00] Switch.
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- [13.00 --> 16.00] Oh, I didn't check if the intro was working.
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- [16.00 --> 18.00] I had hoped to fix that this week, but...
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- [18.00 --> 21.00] Well, I'm pretty sure the file hasn't changed, so...
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- [21.00 --> 22.00] So...
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- [23.00 --> 24.00] No.
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- [25.00 --> 27.00] Actually, wait, no snap, because nothing's...
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- [27.00 --> 32.00] There you go, there you go.
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- [32.00 --> 35.00] All right, so we've got a great show for you guys today.
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- [35.00 --> 39.00] Colton prepared the doc in what appears to be about 17 minutes.
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- [39.00 --> 43.00] There's not a lot of detail in it, but we love him anyway.
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- [43.00 --> 49.00] The Nintendo Switch debuts March the 3rd at 299...
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- [49.00 --> 53.00] Oh, oh, oh, terrible, terrible, terrible turn off. Thank you.
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- [53.00 --> 55.00] And that's where the snap thing came from.
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- [55.00 --> 59.00] If you didn't watch the Nintendo Switch keynote, whenever they change topics, they would go...
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- [59.00 --> 61.00] Yeah, which is super charming.
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- [61.00 --> 62.00] Yeah.
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- [62.00 --> 64.00] So the Nintendo Switch is coming.
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- [64.00 --> 69.00] The Nokia 6, Nokia's first Android smartphone, is official.
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- [69.00 --> 72.00] Nokia is joining the likes of Caterpillar.
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- [72.00 --> 75.00] Now, everybody has an Android phone.
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- [75.00 --> 76.00] Yeah.
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- [76.00 --> 77.00] Where's your Android phone?
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- [77.00 --> 78.00] We... I mean...
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- [78.00 --> 80.00] The Luke Droid. No, that is not yours.
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- [80.00 --> 81.00] I mean...
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- [81.00 --> 82.00] That is Google's.
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- [82.00 --> 83.00] But it is... No.
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- [83.00 --> 84.00] No. No.
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- [84.00 --> 85.00] And you didn't.
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- [86.00 --> 87.00] Also fair.
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- [87.00 --> 88.00] Okay, moving on.
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- [88.00 --> 89.00] HDMI 2...
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- [89.00 --> 90.00] Forgot about that part.
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- [91.00 --> 94.00] HDMI 2.1 announced at CES. What do you got?
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- [94.00 --> 96.00] Linus might have stolen...
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- [96.00 --> 97.00] I did not.
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- [97.00 --> 98.00] ...Project Valerie.
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- [98.00 --> 100.00] Bull... Bull crap. Roll the intro.
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- [100.00 --> 101.00] I'm gonna do a search.
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- [101.00 --> 105.00] No, you will not.
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- [105.00 --> 106.00] All lies.
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- [106.00 --> 107.00] All lies.
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- [107.00 --> 109.00] That is not what happened.
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- [109.00 --> 110.00] Not...
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- [110.00 --> 112.00] I'm going to deny it forever.
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- [112.00 --> 114.00] I'm gonna be like...
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- [114.00 --> 121.00] Who just denies everything in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
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- [121.00 --> 123.00] Can you think of anyone like that?
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- [123.00 --> 124.00] Uh...
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- [124.00 --> 125.00] I can't either.
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- [125.00 --> 126.00] No.
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- [126.00 --> 127.00] Yeah.
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- [127.00 --> 128.00] Not me neither.
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- [128.00 --> 129.00] Not a single person.
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- [129.00 --> 130.00] I can't think of anybody like that.
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- [130.00 --> 131.00] No.
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- [131.00 --> 132.00] What's the date today?
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- [132.00 --> 133.00] What are we a week away from?
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- [133.00 --> 134.00] Uh...
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- [134.00 --> 135.00] Packs?
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- [135.00 --> 136.00] Friday the 13th is today.
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- [136.00 --> 137.00] Not quite.
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- [137.00 --> 138.00] Yeah.
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- [138.00 --> 139.00] Lucky, right?
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- [139.00 --> 140.00] Okay.
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- [140.00 --> 141.00] Moving on.
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- [141.00 --> 142.00] Nintendo Switch?
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- [142.00 --> 143.00] Should we just jump right into that?
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- [143.00 --> 144.00] Let's just jump right into it.
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- [144.00 --> 145.00] Okay, let me bring it.
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- [145.00 --> 146.00] Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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- [146.00 --> 147.00] You can't jump into it yet.
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- [147.00 --> 148.00] You gotta like...
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- [148.00 --> 150.00] Right into the Switch.
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- [150.00 --> 152.00] You gotta at least put your bathing suit on, you know?
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- [152.00 --> 153.00] Whoa.
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- [153.00 --> 155.00] Nintendo announces the Switch.
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- [155.00 --> 156.00] I mean, you don't have to.
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- [156.00 --> 157.00] I don't have to.
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- [157.00 --> 158.00] Jesus.
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- [158.00 --> 164.00] Nintendo announces Switch specs in an event that we weren't invited to.
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- [164.00 --> 165.00] No.
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- [165.00 --> 166.00] Not that we're salty.
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- [166.00 --> 167.00] So, go ahead and talk about...
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- [167.00 --> 168.00] I'm pretty salty.
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- [168.00 --> 169.00] Talk about how we're not salty.
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- [169.00 --> 172.00] I poured an entire can of salt while watching this.
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- [172.00 --> 175.00] Uh, so, it's coming March 3rd.
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- [175.00 --> 181.00] It will retail for $299 US dollars, which doesn't sound that cheap, but is, I believe,
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- [181.00 --> 185.00] the 3rd cheapest console launch ever when adjusted for inflation.
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- [185.00 --> 186.00] Yeah.
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- [186.00 --> 187.00] I remember looking that up.
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- [187.00 --> 189.00] Like, how much a Super Nintendo costs in today dollars.
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- [189.00 --> 190.00] It's like a lot.
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- [190.00 --> 191.00] It's like...
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- [191.00 --> 194.00] Like, Neo Geo or something was like $1,000.
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- [194.00 --> 196.00] Like, how much metal's in this thing?
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- [196.00 --> 197.00] Yeah.
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- [197.00 --> 198.00] You know?
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- [198.00 --> 199.00] Like, oh my goodness.
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- [199.00 --> 203.00] Anyways, the controllers on the left and right are now...
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- [203.00 --> 206.00] Well, I think they're officially called Joy-Con controllers.
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- [206.00 --> 207.00] Joy-Con?
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- [207.00 --> 208.00] They are.
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- [208.00 --> 210.00] Wow, Joy-Con sounds like something else entirely.
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- [210.00 --> 211.00] They are.
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- [211.00 --> 214.00] I didn't watch the event, so this is all coming to me fresh here.
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- [214.00 --> 216.00] I mean, it's like coming right at me.
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- [216.00 --> 217.00] It's hitting me right in the face.
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- [217.00 --> 218.00] I want to attend Joy-Con.
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- [218.00 --> 220.00] Guess it's hitting you right in the face at Joy-Con?
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- [220.00 --> 222.00] Right in the face at Joy-Con, man.
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- [223.00 --> 224.00] Guess how much they cost.
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- [224.00 --> 228.00] I mean, I missed AVN this year because they no longer run it during the same...
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- [228.00 --> 229.00] at the same time as CES, right?
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- [229.00 --> 231.00] Hasn't it not been at the same time for like a long time?
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- [231.00 --> 232.00] Yeah, it's been a few years.
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- [232.00 --> 239.00] It's been a few years, but it used to be that it was like two like long, hard conventions
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- [239.00 --> 243.00] were in the same city of sin at the same time and...
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- [243.00 --> 245.00] On like very polar opposite ends of the spectrum.
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- [245.00 --> 246.00] Yeah, I know.
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- [246.00 --> 253.00] It's like people who literally get paid to have sex and people who have to pay.
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- [253.00 --> 254.00] I mean, I...
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- [254.00 --> 259.00] I mean, there's a lot of cool people at CES too.
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- [259.00 --> 260.00] Yeah.
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- [260.00 --> 261.00] Anyways...
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- [261.00 --> 262.00] We were there.
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- [262.00 --> 263.00] Thank you.
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- [263.00 --> 265.00] I appreciate it.
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- [265.00 --> 268.00] Guess how much the Joy-Con controllers cost.
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- [268.00 --> 269.00] Wait, I thought...
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- [269.00 --> 270.00] I assumed they would be included.
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- [270.00 --> 271.00] They are.
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- [271.00 --> 272.00] Okay.
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- [272.00 --> 273.00] But if you want...
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- [273.00 --> 274.00] Why would you want more?
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- [274.00 --> 282.00] Oh, like if you want to use a Derp Square controller and you don't just buy a Wii pro controller for some reason.
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- [282.00 --> 283.00] Yeah, I know.
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- [283.00 --> 286.00] Some people have been saying that apparently they feel good.
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- [286.00 --> 287.00] I seriously doubt that's going to be true.
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- [287.00 --> 288.00] Okay, hold on.
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- [288.00 --> 289.00] What was it?
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- [289.00 --> 290.00] Jimmy Kimmel who unveiled the Switch for the first time?
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- [290.00 --> 291.00] That sounds right.
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- [291.00 --> 293.00] I think it was Jimmy Kimmel.
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- [293.00 --> 295.00] So, did you hear it from him?
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- [295.00 --> 296.00] No.
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- [296.00 --> 297.00] Okay.
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- [297.00 --> 300.00] Because I was going to say, he's a giant Nintendo fanboy.
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- [300.00 --> 301.00] Oh.
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- [301.00 --> 303.00] Did you hear it from a giant Nintendo fanboy?
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- [303.00 --> 304.00] Maybe.
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- [304.00 --> 305.00] Because it looks abominable.
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- [305.00 --> 306.00] It does.
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- [306.00 --> 307.00] No, I know.
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- [307.00 --> 309.00] The first time I saw it, I was like, wow, that's horrible.
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- [309.00 --> 312.00] But okay, to be fair, it looks really good when it's on the side of the Switch.
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- [312.00 --> 314.00] The Wii U controller with the screen in the middle?
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- [314.00 --> 315.00] Okay.
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- [315.00 --> 316.00] I actually love that one.
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- [316.00 --> 317.00] Okay.
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- [317.00 --> 318.00] But it's one of those...
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- [318.00 --> 320.00] But when it's on that like box?
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- [320.00 --> 321.00] It is weird.
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- [321.00 --> 322.00] I don't like that.
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- [322.00 --> 325.00] So, I think it's kind of a shoulder width question.
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- [325.00 --> 327.00] Oh, that could be it.
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- [327.00 --> 329.00] Because this is comfortable.
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- [329.00 --> 330.00] Yeah.
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- [330.00 --> 331.00] And this is just not.
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- [331.00 --> 333.00] No matter how ergonomic the thing you're holding is.
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- [333.00 --> 338.00] It's like the whole 10 keyless versus 104 key layout for FPS games argument.
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- [338.00 --> 342.00] You want that natural shoulder width.
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- [342.00 --> 343.00] Yeah, because I really...
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- [343.00 --> 346.00] Like my favorite controller for the Wii U is the main one.
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- [346.00 --> 350.00] With that said, let's get in a console gamer posture here.
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- [350.00 --> 351.00] Okay.
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- [351.00 --> 352.00] Because right now we're sitting at a desk.
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- [352.00 --> 353.00] Alright.
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- [353.00 --> 354.00] So hold on.
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- [354.00 --> 355.00] Alright.
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- [355.00 --> 356.00] Okay, I'm assuming the position here.
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- [356.00 --> 357.00] Alright.
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- [357.00 --> 358.00] Yeah, no, that's good.
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- [358.00 --> 360.00] You know what?
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- [360.00 --> 363.00] I'm actually liking it a lot more now.
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- [363.00 --> 364.00] See, because if you use the pillow...
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- [364.00 --> 365.00] Yeah.
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- [365.00 --> 366.00] Use the pillow.
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- [366.00 --> 367.00] Okay.
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- [367.00 --> 368.00] See, that's kind of alright.
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- [368.00 --> 369.00] That's alright.
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- [369.00 --> 371.00] But let's flip the pillow the other way.
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- [371.00 --> 373.00] That's kind of alright too.
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- [373.00 --> 379.00] Like if I've got the controller in the lap, which 90% of the time for me, if I'm using
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- [379.00 --> 382.00] a controller, it's the one in my lap.
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- [382.00 --> 383.00] Yeah.
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- [383.00 --> 384.00] So maybe...
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- [384.00 --> 385.00] Maybe we're just not...
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- [385.00 --> 386.00] We'll have to try it out.
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- [386.00 --> 387.00] Yeah.
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- [387.00 --> 388.00] We'll have to try it out.
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- [388.00 --> 390.00] Maybe we're not giving it a fair shake.
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- [390.00 --> 391.00] Okay.
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- [391.00 --> 392.00] Hit me with some more deets.
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- [392.00 --> 393.00] Joy-con.
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- [393.00 --> 394.00] You have to guess how much they are.
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- [394.00 --> 395.00] Oh, I have to guess how much they are.
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- [395.00 --> 396.00] If you want to buy extras.
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- [396.00 --> 401.00] I mean, if they're anything other than $59.99, I'll be surprised.
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- [401.00 --> 406.00] Because there's certain games that you need two full sets of those.
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- [406.00 --> 408.00] Because those are the motion controllers.
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- [408.00 --> 409.00] Oh, I see.
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- [409.00 --> 410.00] Those have motion in them.
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- [410.00 --> 411.00] Yeah.
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- [411.00 --> 412.00] So you'll have to buy another one.
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- [412.00 --> 416.00] And they have like HD vibrator things, which apparently you can like feel...
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- [416.00 --> 417.00] Like if someone...
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- [417.00 --> 421.00] If you're holding like a glass with this thing, you can like feel someone pouring water in.
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- [421.00 --> 423.00] We're gonna have to try it.
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- [423.00 --> 424.00] We're gonna have to try it.
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- [424.00 --> 425.00] Okay.
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- [425.00 --> 426.00] Alright.
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- [426.00 --> 430.00] There's gonna be like one stupid like quest in Zelda.
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- [430.00 --> 431.00] Yep.
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- [431.00 --> 436.00] Where you have to like fill water jugs or some crap.
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- [436.00 --> 443.00] And it'll be like this completely contrived like yell at your DS style thing.
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- [443.00 --> 445.00] Do you remember that?
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- [445.00 --> 449.00] I have to blow the feather thing.
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- [449.00 --> 451.00] That was so stupid.
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- [451.00 --> 452.00] They wanted to...
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- [452.00 --> 453.00] Okay.
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- [453.00 --> 456.00] For the DS, they wanted to show off how like the microphone could be integrated into games.
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- [456.00 --> 460.00] So on some weird mini game, you have to like blow on the DS.
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- [460.00 --> 461.00] So you'd see people like...
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- [461.00 --> 464.00] It was so dumb.
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- [464.00 --> 466.00] Anyways, 80 US dollars.
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- [466.00 --> 468.00] 80 US dollars?
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- [468.00 --> 469.00] Yeah.
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- [469.00 --> 472.00] So $300 for a controller and then to equip...
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- [472.00 --> 473.00] $300 for a console with a controller.
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- [473.00 --> 474.00] Yeah, with a controller.
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- [474.00 --> 475.00] Yeah, with a controller.
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- [475.00 --> 481.00] And then another $240 to equip all of your friends...
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- [481.00 --> 482.00] US dollars.
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- [482.00 --> 483.00] With controllers.
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- [483.00 --> 484.00] US dollars.
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- [484.00 --> 490.00] To be fair, each Joy-Con controller, if you're playing a game that doesn't require like the motion in each hand,
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- [490.00 --> 493.00] can be split out and turned into two controllers sideways.
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- [493.00 --> 494.00] Yeah, but that...
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- [494.00 --> 496.00] I mean, if we're talking ergonomics, that's...
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- [496.00 --> 497.00] It looks horrible.
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- [497.00 --> 498.00] No.
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- [498.00 --> 500.00] It actually looks like the worst thing.
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- [500.00 --> 501.00] Yeah, no.
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- [501.00 --> 503.00] Because like Wiimotes turned sideways are doable.
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- [503.00 --> 505.00] Yeah, they're somewhat usable.
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- [505.00 --> 506.00] They're all right.
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- [506.00 --> 509.00] But they're a lot wider than the Joy-Con.
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- [509.00 --> 510.00] The Joy-Con controllers are way smaller.
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- [510.00 --> 512.00] This feels terrible to me.
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- [512.00 --> 514.00] That reminds me of that...
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- [514.00 --> 517.00] What was that SteelSeries Bluetooth controller that they...
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- [517.00 --> 518.00] It's 70, not 80, apparently.
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- [518.00 --> 523.00] That they discontinued almost immediately after they launched it.
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- [523.00 --> 525.00] I don't remember what it was called, but it was awful.
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- [525.00 --> 529.00] It was like a mobile game controller.
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- [529.00 --> 530.00] $70.
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- [530.00 --> 531.00] I was wrong.
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- [531.00 --> 532.00] $70.
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- [532.00 --> 533.00] Okay.
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- [533.00 --> 534.00] So it's $69.99.
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- [534.00 --> 535.00] Yeah.
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- [535.00 --> 537.00] Which is still $10 higher than I guessed.
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- [537.00 --> 538.00] $20.
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- [538.00 --> 540.00] You said if they're over 50 bucks.
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- [540.00 --> 541.00] I said $59.99.
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- [541.00 --> 542.00] Ah.
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- [542.00 --> 544.00] Because I think that's what everyone else is at, if I recall correctly.
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- [544.00 --> 545.00] That's very common.
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- [545.00 --> 546.00] Yeah.
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- [546.00 --> 548.00] I still don't like it.
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- [548.00 --> 550.00] And it's $70 for a Pro controller.
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- [550.00 --> 551.00] And it's $70.
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- [551.00 --> 552.00] I...
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- [552.00 --> 554.00] Yeah, but the Pro controller isn't going to have the two...
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- [554.00 --> 555.00] Yeah.
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- [555.00 --> 556.00] Isn't going to have all the motion stuff.
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- [556.00 --> 562.00] And when I'm filling my jug, I won't know how full my jug is.
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- [562.00 --> 563.00] Except for visually.
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- [563.00 --> 564.00] Yeah.
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- [564.00 --> 565.00] Right.
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- [565.00 --> 567.00] Which is where I would be looking.
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- [567.00 --> 569.00] And my attention would be focused.
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- [569.00 --> 570.00] Presumably.
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- [570.00 --> 572.00] Someone said WTF is a Pro controller.
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- [572.00 --> 576.00] That's like your more standard gaming controller deal.
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- [576.00 --> 577.00] For the Wii U.
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- [577.00 --> 578.00] Yeah.
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- [578.00 --> 579.00] And there's new ones.
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- [579.00 --> 580.00] And they look cool.
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- [580.00 --> 581.00] They have some see-through stuff going on.
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- [581.00 --> 582.00] Okay.
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- [582.00 --> 583.00] So we're back to N64.
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- [585.00 --> 586.00] That's back in fashion.
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- [586.00 --> 589.00] Is Apple going to redo their whole aluminum aesthetic?
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- [589.00 --> 592.00] And they're going to bring back the colorful iMac?
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- [592.00 --> 593.00] Hopefully.
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- [593.00 --> 594.00] Hopefully.
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- [594.00 --> 596.00] I've always loved see-through electronics.
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- [596.00 --> 597.00] Imagine a...
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- [597.00 --> 598.00] Okay.
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- [598.00 --> 599.00] Hold up.
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- [599.00 --> 600.00] Hold up.
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- [600.00 --> 603.00] Imagine like a glass razor blade.
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- [603.00 --> 604.00] Yeah.
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- [604.00 --> 605.00] I'm down.
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- [605.00 --> 606.00] 100% down.
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- [606.00 --> 607.00] Yeah.
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- [607.00 --> 608.00] Yeah.
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- [608.00 --> 609.00] If it could like stand up in durability-wise.
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- [609.00 --> 614.00] When someone figures out how to economically machine and polish glass.
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- [614.00 --> 615.00] Yeah.
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- [615.00 --> 616.00] It will come.
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- [616.00 --> 617.00] Like sick.
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- [617.00 --> 618.00] It will come.
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- [618.00 --> 619.00] Like really clean.
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- [619.00 --> 620.00] Yeah.
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- [620.00 --> 621.00] Very clean.
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- [621.00 --> 622.00] Because the modern deal is clean.
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- [622.00 --> 624.00] Not like purple plastic that you can see through.
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- [624.00 --> 625.00] Well that and they'll use it anyway.
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- [625.00 --> 626.00] Even if...
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- [626.00 --> 628.00] Like they'll use it even if they make it opaque.
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- [628.00 --> 629.00] Like they could do black glass.
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- [629.00 --> 630.00] Yeah.
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- [630.00 --> 631.00] And it would be a fingerprint magnet.
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- [631.00 --> 633.00] But at least you could clean it.
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- [633.00 --> 634.00] That's see...
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- [634.00 --> 635.00] That's my...
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- [635.00 --> 637.00] I get product managers asking me this all the time.
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- [637.00 --> 639.00] Why don't you like glossy black?
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- [639.00 --> 641.00] And I'm like because it's plastic.
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- [641.00 --> 642.00] It scratches immediately.
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- [642.00 --> 643.00] It's going to scratch and look terrible.
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- [643.00 --> 644.00] Yeah.
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- [644.00 --> 645.00] It looks like garbage.
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- [645.00 --> 650.00] People call me out like oh you hate glossy plastic but you're cool with tempered glass.
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- [650.00 --> 654.00] And I'm like yeah but you can take like a microfiber cloth.
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- [654.00 --> 655.00] Yeah.
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- [655.00 --> 656.00] And like whip it a couple times.
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- [656.00 --> 657.00] Exactly.
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- [657.00 --> 658.00] And all the dust will float off and then you're fine.
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- [658.00 --> 659.00] And the...
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- [659.00 --> 660.00] Because half of the issue is static.
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- [660.00 --> 661.00] Yeah.
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- [661.00 --> 664.66] It's impossible to clean a piece of acrylic because the second you wipe it you generate
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- [664.66 --> 669.72] a static charge and it grabs all the dust within a five foot radius and like sticks
361
- [669.72 --> 670.72] it there.
362
- [670.72 --> 672.72] That's why we don't like it.
363
- [672.72 --> 673.72] Oh.
364
- [673.72 --> 675.72] Alright what else you got for me?
365
- [675.72 --> 676.72] Anyways.
366
- [676.72 --> 680.72] The Breath of the Wild is launching the exact same day the console is.
367
- [680.72 --> 682.72] Which is surprising to anybody because...
368
- [682.72 --> 684.72] Because they've been like moving it constantly.
369
- [684.72 --> 686.72] Is there even another game yet?
370
- [686.72 --> 691.72] It's also a little surprise to everybody because there are not a ton of other smash hits coming
371
- [691.72 --> 692.72] with the console.
372
- [692.72 --> 693.72] Smash hits?
373
- [693.72 --> 695.72] Ah there's no smash coming with the console.
374
- [695.72 --> 699.72] Mario Kart is called I think Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or something like that.
375
- [699.72 --> 701.72] So I believe it's the same game.
376
- [701.72 --> 704.72] But you can't put a disc into the Switch.
377
- [704.72 --> 707.72] So you're going to have to buy it digitally.
378
- [707.72 --> 708.72] Probably brand new.
379
- [708.72 --> 710.72] Probably full price.
380
- [710.72 --> 712.72] That's my guess.
381
- [712.72 --> 715.72] Or like a little bit off but probably not that much.
382
- [715.72 --> 718.72] Because tons of people are going to want to play Mario Kart.
383
- [718.72 --> 719.72] Play Mario Kart with your friends.
384
- [719.72 --> 720.72] Switch is mobile.
385
- [720.72 --> 721.72] Right?
386
- [721.72 --> 722.72] Yeah.
387
- [722.72 --> 723.72] You can play Skyrim.
388
- [723.72 --> 724.72] You saw that right?
389
- [724.72 --> 725.72] Yeah.
390
- [725.72 --> 726.72] Have you seen the new Mario game?
391
- [726.72 --> 727.72] No I have not.
392
- [727.72 --> 728.72] I've been living under a rock.
393
- [728.72 --> 730.72] It looks super weird.
394
- [730.72 --> 732.72] You can like parkour in New York.
395
- [732.72 --> 734.72] Literally not kidding.
396
- [734.72 --> 736.72] And it's not coming out until like winter.
397
- [736.72 --> 737.72] Okay.
398
- [737.72 --> 738.72] Okay.
399
- [738.72 --> 741.72] Polygon's list of launch titles or launch window titles.
400
- [741.72 --> 742.72] Here perfect.
401
- [742.72 --> 743.72] Okay.
402
- [743.72 --> 749.72] So launch day is 1-2 Switch which is like this basically controller demo style Nintendo game.
403
- [749.72 --> 750.72] You know how they always have those?
404
- [750.72 --> 751.72] Okay.
405
- [751.72 --> 752.72] You know what?
406
- [752.72 --> 753.72] Those are often very fun.
407
- [753.72 --> 754.72] Wii Sports?
408
- [754.72 --> 755.72] Was very good.
409
- [755.72 --> 756.72] Okay.
410
- [756.72 --> 757.72] Let me.
411
- [757.72 --> 758.72] I'm going to say something and it's going to make you cry.
412
- [758.72 --> 759.72] What?
413
- [759.72 --> 761.72] It might even make you die a little bit inside.
414
- [761.72 --> 762.72] Okay.
415
- [762.72 --> 763.72] Okay.
416
- [763.72 --> 764.72] So you know my gaming setup in my living room right?
417
- [764.72 --> 765.72] Yes.
418
- [765.72 --> 766.72] Where I have the GTX.
419
- [766.72 --> 769.72] I think it's like a 980 Ti equipped PC.
420
- [769.72 --> 772.72] I've got the 65 inch TV.
421
- [772.72 --> 776.72] I've got the Vive VR headset.
422
- [776.72 --> 781.72] Everything's set up to be simple enough that like my son can turn it on and switch between
423
- [781.72 --> 783.72] all the different stuff that he wants to play.
424
- [783.72 --> 784.72] Okay.
425
- [784.72 --> 792.72] So in the last month he has spent about 10 times more time on the Nintendo Wii.
426
- [792.72 --> 793.72] Playing Wii Sports?
427
- [793.72 --> 794.72] Playing Wii Sports.
428
- [794.72 --> 795.72] That doesn't make me die inside.
429
- [795.72 --> 796.72] Than he has in VR.
430
- [796.72 --> 798.72] No I actually totally get it.
431
- [798.72 --> 799.72] I get it.
432
- [799.72 --> 803.72] Like for him where both of these experiences are equally new.
433
- [803.72 --> 808.72] Motion control is actually the more engaging of the two.
434
- [808.72 --> 810.72] Well there's motion control.
435
- [810.72 --> 811.72] Yes.
436
- [811.72 --> 813.72] But pure motion control looking at the TV.
437
- [813.72 --> 816.72] And there isn't a game that's as good as Wii Sports.
438
- [816.72 --> 818.72] On the Vive.
439
- [818.72 --> 820.72] Get wrecked but it's true.
440
- [820.72 --> 824.72] If Audio Shield's algorithm wasn't garbage it would be really fun.
441
- [824.72 --> 829.72] But a lot of the time you're just like, yeah this music is like so awesome I'm pumped.
442
- [829.72 --> 830.72] Bing.
443
- [830.72 --> 831.72] Yeah yeah here we go.
444
- [831.72 --> 834.72] And it's totally out of beat and everything's sort of weird.
445
- [834.72 --> 835.72] Yeah.
446
- [835.72 --> 839.72] Like if I was actually, like if they actually DDR styled it.
447
- [839.72 --> 846.72] Like professionally guitar heroed it to the point where everything was perfectly in tune.
448
- [846.72 --> 847.72] Awesome.
449
- [847.72 --> 848.72] Yeah.
450
- [848.72 --> 850.72] And it's like, I can't really just sit and play Audio Shield for like hours.
451
- [850.72 --> 851.72] Yeah.
452
- [851.72 --> 852.72] Because even now I put up with a lot of this crap.
453
- [852.72 --> 856.72] I've basically only found one game that I, or one song that I really like playing on it.
454
- [856.72 --> 858.72] And it's a remix of the Imperial March.
455
- [858.72 --> 861.72] And it actually like goes pretty well.
456
- [861.72 --> 865.72] But it's not like ridiculously like fast paced.
457
- [865.72 --> 866.72] Yeah.
458
- [866.72 --> 868.72] Like I want to do this a whole bunch so I can remember how I have to move kind of deal.
459
- [868.72 --> 869.72] Right.
460
- [869.72 --> 870.72] Yeah.
461
- [870.72 --> 872.72] It feels cool to just be like bah bah bah.
462
- [872.72 --> 873.72] Right.
463
- [873.72 --> 875.72] Which will work a lot better with their algorithm.
464
- [875.72 --> 877.72] Because it's slow, big notes.
465
- [877.72 --> 878.72] Yeah.
466
- [878.72 --> 881.72] Anyways, so 1-2 Switch which is actually probably going to be pretty damn cool.
467
- [881.72 --> 885.72] Because those Nintendo launch weird demo game things are actually very fun.
468
- [885.72 --> 888.72] Legend of Zelda which is going to sell this console.
469
- [888.72 --> 889.72] Yeah.
470
- [889.72 --> 890.72] 100%.
471
- [890.72 --> 891.72] Yeah.
472
- [891.72 --> 894.72] Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild is super sick looking and it's totally going to sell the console.
473
- [894.72 --> 898.72] Skylanders Imaginators and Just Dance 2017.
474
- [898.72 --> 900.72] That's the launch lineup.
475
- [900.72 --> 901.72] Four games.
476
- [901.72 --> 902.72] One-two Switch.
477
- [902.72 --> 903.72] That's the Switch.
478
- [903.72 --> 904.72] That's something new.
479
- [904.72 --> 905.72] Okay.
480
- [905.72 --> 906.72] One-two Switch is going to be very cool.
481
- [906.72 --> 907.72] Okay.
482
- [907.72 --> 908.72] Has-been Heroes, March 2017.
483
- [908.72 --> 909.72] Okay.
484
- [909.72 --> 910.72] March 2017 is like a bajillion things.
485
- [910.72 --> 911.72] There's one, two, three, four.
486
- [911.72 --> 912.72] Okay.
487
- [912.72 --> 913.72] What do we got?
488
- [913.72 --> 914.72] Has-been Heroes, Sonic Mania.
489
- [914.72 --> 919.72] It's a Sonic game that does not count.
490
- [919.72 --> 924.72] I am sitting here with the game.
491
- [924.72 --> 925.72] That's the game.
492
- [925.72 --> 926.72] That's the game.
493
- [926.72 --> 927.72] It's the game.
494
- [927.72 --> 928.72] Yeah.
495
- [928.72 --> 929.72] I'm sitting here with the game.
496
- [929.72 --> 930.72] The game is a game.
497
- [930.72 --> 931.72] I am Sitsuna.
498
- [931.72 --> 932.72] No idea.
499
- [932.72 --> 935.72] Lego City Undercover, whatever that is in the spring.
500
- [935.72 --> 936.72] Arms-
501
- [936.72 --> 937.72] Arms is a little rough.
502
- [937.72 --> 940.72] Super Bomberman R, Snipperclips, cut it out together.
503
- [940.72 --> 941.72] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is literally just Mario Kart 8.
504
- [941.72 --> 944.72] Is Snipperclips literally like a haircutting simulator?
505
- [944.72 --> 945.72] Like what-
506
- [945.72 --> 946.72] Snipperclips.
507
- [946.72 --> 948.72] Even Mario Kart 8 Deluxe isn't coming till April.
508
- [948.72 --> 949.72] How hard is it to release-
509
- [949.72 --> 950.72] That should have been-
510
- [950.72 --> 951.72] What?
511
- [951.72 --> 952.72] Sniperclips.
512
- [952.72 --> 953.72] Ooh.
513
- [953.72 --> 954.72] Ooh, yeah.
514
- [954.72 --> 955.72] No.
515
- [955.72 --> 956.72] Snipperclips out it together.
516
- [956.72 --> 957.72] Okay.
517
- [957.72 --> 958.72] Well, what is this?
518
- [958.72 --> 959.72] Wow.
519
- [959.72 --> 960.72] There's like nothing.
520
- [960.72 --> 961.72] I can't find it.
521
- [961.72 --> 962.72] Oh, no.
522
- [962.72 --> 963.72] Here, here, here.
523
- [963.72 --> 964.72] Search instead.
524
- [964.72 --> 965.72] Search instead.
525
- [965.72 --> 966.72] Snipperclips.
526
- [966.72 --> 967.72] Down, down, down.
527
- [967.72 --> 968.72] There.
528
- [968.72 --> 969.72] Yeah.
529
- [969.72 --> 970.72] That one.
530
- [970.72 --> 971.72] Yeah.
531
- [971.72 --> 972.72] Nothing.
532
- [972.72 --> 973.72] Great clips.
533
- [973.72 --> 975.72] I mean, apparently, comes up before-
534
- [975.72 --> 976.72] Oh, it's one word.
535
- [976.72 --> 977.72] Before Snipperclips.
536
- [977.72 --> 979.72] If we try to-
537
- [979.72 --> 980.72] Snipperclips.
538
- [980.72 --> 981.72] $20.
539
- [981.72 --> 982.72] Cut it out together.
540
- [982.72 --> 983.72] It's-
541
- [983.72 --> 984.72] It's paper.
542
- [984.72 --> 985.72] Okay, it's paper.
543
- [986.72 --> 988.72] Um, is it Puzzle Model?
544
- [988.72 --> 989.72] What are they doing?
545
- [989.72 --> 990.72] Or like, I don't know.
546
- [990.72 --> 991.72] Here.
547
- [991.72 --> 992.72] Can you share my screen?
548
- [992.72 --> 993.72] Yeah, I can't, but I'll-
549
- [993.72 --> 994.72] I'm gonna bring this up.
550
- [994.72 --> 999.72] If anyone else is curious what Snipperclips is, um, which-
551
- [999.72 --> 1000.72] Which site are you on?
552
- [1000.72 --> 1001.72] Nintendo.
553
- [1001.72 --> 1002.72] Nintendo.
554
- [1002.72 --> 1003.72] Okay, here we go.
555
- [1003.72 --> 1008.72] Wow, it's been so long since we, uh, since we switched scenes that I actually, uh, had
556
- [1008.72 --> 1009.72] that screen timeout.
557
- [1009.72 --> 1014.72] Okay, so, I think it's like paper sex and it's really angry.
558
- [1014.72 --> 1015.72] Yeah.
559
- [1015.72 --> 1016.72] Yeah.
560
- [1016.72 --> 1017.72] From the look of things.
561
- [1017.72 --> 1018.72] Oh.
562
- [1018.72 --> 1019.72] I'm not able to-
563
- [1019.72 --> 1020.72] Yeah, there we go.
564
- [1020.72 --> 1023.72] So, it's either angry or like-
565
- [1023.72 --> 1026.72] So, the one on top is like, I'm mad, but I'm doing this.
566
- [1026.72 --> 1027.72] Yeah.
567
- [1027.72 --> 1030.72] The one on the bottom is just kinda like holding it in there, but enjoys it, smiling.
568
- [1030.72 --> 1031.72] Everything's okay.
569
- [1031.72 --> 1032.72] Right.
570
- [1032.72 --> 1033.72] Didn't say no.
571
- [1033.72 --> 1034.72] So, Mario Can Eat Deluxe.
572
- [1034.72 --> 1035.72] Yeah.
573
- [1035.72 --> 1036.72] 60 bucks.
574
- [1036.72 --> 1037.72] Okay.
575
- [1037.72 --> 1038.72] So, there's basketball.
576
- [1038.72 --> 1042.72] Um, there's a big green lollipop.
577
- [1042.72 --> 1044.72] And the yellow one is angry.
578
- [1044.72 --> 1047.72] Oh, the yellow one has got it in for the pink one there.
579
- [1047.72 --> 1048.72] It's going right for it.
580
- [1048.72 --> 1049.72] Yeah.
581
- [1049.72 --> 1051.72] Um, pink one's like, yeah, I'm ready.
582
- [1051.72 --> 1052.72] Okay.
583
- [1052.72 --> 1053.72] Basketball.
584
- [1053.72 --> 1056.72] Okay, so, is it like a puzzle game?
585
- [1056.72 --> 1057.72] I don't know.
586
- [1057.72 --> 1058.72] All right.
587
- [1058.72 --> 1062.72] It's action, action, comma, puzzles.
588
- [1062.72 --> 1063.72] Action, comma, puzzles.
589
- [1063.72 --> 1064.72] Cool.
590
- [1064.72 --> 1067.72] So, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is $60.
591
- [1067.72 --> 1068.72] Yeah.
592
- [1068.72 --> 1070.72] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the same cost as Breath of the Wild.
593
- [1070.72 --> 1071.72] So, basically, they're gonna sell-
594
- [1071.72 --> 1072.72] I already own Mario Kart 8.
595
- [1072.72 --> 1077.72] Well, 12 million Switches on launch day.
596
- [1077.72 --> 1081.72] And 12 million copies of Zelda on launch day.
597
- [1081.72 --> 1085.72] And then nothing for months, as far as I can tell.
598
- [1085.72 --> 1087.72] Arms looks like-
599
- [1087.72 --> 1090.72] Like, I can't believe this is its own stand-alone title.
600
- [1090.72 --> 1092.72] Is it like a boxing game?
601
- [1092.72 --> 1093.72] It's an arena.
602
- [1093.72 --> 1094.72] You wanna like play it?
603
- [1094.72 --> 1095.72] Yeah, sure.
604
- [1095.72 --> 1096.72] If you scroll down on your-
605
- [1096.72 --> 1097.72] If you go to the Nintendo thing, scroll down.
606
- [1097.72 --> 1100.72] I can't play it, because they're gonna like claim our video.
607
- [1100.72 --> 1102.72] Okay, so maybe don't then.
608
- [1102.72 --> 1103.72] Yeah, I'll just-
609
- [1103.72 --> 1104.72] I can play it for you here.
610
- [1104.72 --> 1109.72] Sure, I'm just gonna bring this up, so you guys can at least have a look at it.
611
- [1109.72 --> 1113.72] So, okay, yeah.
612
- [1113.72 --> 1114.72] Not gonna play that.
613
- [1114.72 --> 1116.72] The first fighting game of its kind.
614
- [1116.72 --> 1121.72] Choose a champion, equip your own combination of extendable arms, then a mix of button presses-
615
- [1121.72 --> 1122.72] So, okay, okay.
616
- [1122.72 --> 1123.72] So, it's Wii Boxing.
617
- [1123.72 --> 1127.72] It's Wii Boxing, essentially, as its own entire game.
618
- [1127.72 --> 1134.72] But you're gonna need- you need your own full set of the Joy-Cons, because one- each one is each arm.
619
- [1134.72 --> 1136.72] It's an arena combat game.
620
- [1136.72 --> 1139.72] So, it's Street Fighter, but Wii Boxing.
621
- [1139.72 --> 1141.72] And your arms extend.
622
- [1141.72 --> 1145.72] And if you turn the controller while you have your arm out-
623
- [1145.72 --> 1149.72] So, you punch and then you turn the controller, that will curve the fist.
624
- [1149.72 --> 1156.72] This is a full-priced game, which costs the same amount as Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild.
625
- [1158.72 --> 1159.72] And you can block.
626
- [1159.72 --> 1160.72] Yeah.
627
- [1160.72 --> 1162.72] Um, okay.
628
- [1166.72 --> 1167.72] So, moving on.
629
- [1167.72 --> 1168.72] Yeah.
630
- [1168.72 --> 1170.72] Um, the- oh, right.
631
- [1170.72 --> 1173.72] Super Mario Odyssey is the other one I was talking about.
632
- [1173.72 --> 1174.72] Okay.
633
- [1174.72 --> 1175.72] So, you wanna check out screenshots of that?
634
- [1175.72 --> 1176.72] Uh, yeah.
635
- [1176.72 --> 1184.72] We should probably move on, because this is enough of people sort of hearing us hate everything about this.
636
- [1184.72 --> 1187.72] I mean, you're gonna buy one anyway.
637
- [1187.72 --> 1188.72] I love it, and I'm gonna buy one.
638
- [1188.72 --> 1189.72] Yeah, okay.
639
- [1190.72 --> 1191.72] I think it's really cool.
640
- [1192.72 --> 1193.72] Are you gonna buy arms?
641
- [1193.72 --> 1194.72] No.
642
- [1194.72 --> 1195.72] Okay.
643
- [1195.72 --> 1196.72] I'm not gonna buy arms.
644
- [1196.72 --> 1198.72] I'm gonna buy Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
645
- [1198.72 --> 1199.72] You're gonna buy Switch.
646
- [1199.72 --> 1200.72] Yeah.
647
- [1200.72 --> 1201.72] And you're gonna buy Breath of the Wild.
648
- [1201.72 --> 1202.72] Yeah.
649
- [1202.72 --> 1203.72] And you're gonna wait.
650
- [1203.72 --> 1205.72] No, I'm gonna get 1-2 Switch.
651
- [1205.72 --> 1206.72] You're gonna get 1-2 Switch?
652
- [1206.72 --> 1207.72] Oh, it doesn't come with it?
653
- [1207.72 --> 1208.72] I don't think so.
654
- [1211.72 --> 1215.72] The packages that I saw did not say that it included 1-2 Switch.
655
- [1215.72 --> 1216.72] It might.
656
- [1216.72 --> 1220.72] I bet you it comes with a demo disc-y thing with other games that aren't that.
657
- [1223.72 --> 1224.72] Nintendo Switch included games.
658
- [1224.72 --> 1227.72] No, no bundled games.
659
- [1227.72 --> 1229.72] So 1-2 Switch is like a full price game.
660
- [1229.72 --> 1232.72] So I'll buy it with 1-2 Switch and Breath of the Wild.
661
- [1233.72 --> 1237.72] And then I'll wait until Mario Kart 8 Deluxe comes out.
662
- [1237.72 --> 1239.72] And then I think I'm done for a while.
663
- [1240.72 --> 1243.72] Let's see.
664
- [1243.72 --> 1249.72] Mario Kart 8 maybe Splatoon 2, but probably not.
665
- [1249.72 --> 1251.72] And then it's Holiday 2017.
666
- [1251.72 --> 1252.72] As far as I can tell.
667
- [1253.72 --> 1255.72] Not gonna bother buy Skyrim.
668
- [1255.72 --> 1256.72] Yeah, Skyrim.
669
- [1256.72 --> 1258.72] Not gonna buy a basketball game.
670
- [1258.72 --> 1260.72] Definitely not gonna buy Snipperclips.
671
- [1260.72 --> 1265.72] Skyrim for all of the people who don't own Skyrim on any of the platforms.
672
- [1265.72 --> 1266.72] It's sorta cool.
673
- [1266.72 --> 1269.72] It's on every platform already.
674
- [1270.72 --> 1271.72] It's sorta cool.
675
- [1271.72 --> 1272.72] Literally every platform.
676
- [1273.72 --> 1275.72] Other things that they- I don't think this is a comprehensive-
677
- [1275.72 --> 1276.72] Your mom wants to play Skyrim.
678
- [1276.72 --> 1277.72] This is not a-
679
- [1277.72 --> 1278.72] No, Witcher 3.
680
- [1278.72 --> 1279.72] Witcher 3.
681
- [1279.72 --> 1280.72] Witcher 3.
682
- [1280.72 --> 1281.72] This is not a comprehensive list though.
683
- [1281.72 --> 1282.72] Colton's mom doesn't even wanna play Skyrim.
684
- [1282.72 --> 1284.72] There's no way this is a comprehensive list.
685
- [1284.72 --> 1288.72] Because there was at least one game that I saw that isn't on here.
686
- [1288.72 --> 1290.72] And there's a few others as well.
687
- [1290.72 --> 1294.72] There isn't a- man, what's that game that Brandon just loves and is actually really fun?
688
- [1294.72 --> 1295.72] I don't remember.
689
- [1295.72 --> 1296.72] It's a JRPG.
690
- [1296.72 --> 1297.72] It's really good.
691
- [1297.72 --> 1298.72] It's not on here.
692
- [1298.72 --> 1301.72] There's a few JRPGs that were announced that aren't on here.
693
- [1301.72 --> 1305.72] And I saw Minecraft in the art stuff that was flipping by and it's not on here.
694
- [1305.72 --> 1306.72] So there are other things.
695
- [1306.72 --> 1308.72] Skyrim runs on Linux.
696
- [1308.72 --> 1309.72] Polygon's list is not perfect.
697
- [1309.72 --> 1311.72] Skyrim runs on Linux.
698
- [1311.72 --> 1312.72] Nice.
699
- [1312.72 --> 1313.72] That's awesome.
700
- [1313.72 --> 1314.72] Terrible.
701
- [1314.72 --> 1315.72] That is actually awesome.
702
- [1317.72 --> 1318.72] Alright.
703
- [1318.72 --> 1321.72] Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem, Diaga.
704
- [1321.72 --> 1325.72] There's some pretty major games that aren't not on Polygon's list.
705
- [1325.72 --> 1326.72] Okay.
706
- [1326.72 --> 1327.72] So I don't know what they're doing.
707
- [1327.72 --> 1328.72] Maybe they just don't have confirmed dates for them.
708
- [1328.72 --> 1329.72] So I didn't put them on the list.
709
- [1329.72 --> 1331.72] 6.2 inch display.
710
- [1331.72 --> 1332.72] Fire Emblem, Diaga.
711
- [1332.72 --> 1334.72] 720p multi-touch.
712
- [1334.72 --> 1340.72] 2.5 to 6 hours of battery life can charge over a USB Type-C.
713
- [1340.72 --> 1342.72] That is a huge range.
714
- [1342.72 --> 1344.72] How do you get 6?
715
- [1344.72 --> 1346.72] Well, they're talking about different games and stuff.
716
- [1346.72 --> 1351.72] So if you play that weird snip clip game versus Breath of the Wild, it's probably...
717
- [1351.72 --> 1352.72] Okay.
718
- [1352.72 --> 1353.72] Fair enough.
719
- [1353.72 --> 1354.72] Yeah.
720
- [1354.72 --> 1355.72] Charge us over Type-C.
721
- [1355.72 --> 1356.72] Pretty cool.
722
- [1356.72 --> 1358.72] Nintendo not doing a proprietary connector.
723
- [1358.72 --> 1359.72] 32 gigs on board.
724
- [1359.72 --> 1360.72] Expandable via micro SD.
725
- [1360.72 --> 1361.72] Very nice.
726
- [1361.72 --> 1363.72] I'm surprised they're not trying to sell us like a...
727
- [1363.72 --> 1365.72] Micro SD Type-C.
728
- [1365.72 --> 1366.72] $70...
729
- [1366.72 --> 1367.72] But you don't get an included game.
730
- [1367.72 --> 1369.72] But you don't get a game.
731
- [1369.72 --> 1376.72] It's like, okay, we will loosen the death grip we have on your wallets for accessories and expandable storage.
732
- [1376.72 --> 1380.72] And in return, you will pay us for the game development we did.
733
- [1380.72 --> 1381.72] Okay?
734
- [1381.72 --> 1382.72] Is that okay with everyone?
735
- [1382.72 --> 1383.72] Because we're okay with that.
736
- [1383.72 --> 1385.72] I mean, that sort of does make more sense.
737
- [1385.72 --> 1391.72] 802.11ac Wi-Fi and up to 8 Switch consoles at once for local multiplayer.
738
- [1391.72 --> 1392.72] Because they do their own little Wi-Fi thing.
739
- [1392.72 --> 1393.72] Okay.
740
- [1393.72 --> 1394.72] Done.
741
- [1394.72 --> 1395.72] I'm gonna get one.
742
- [1395.72 --> 1396.72] We're gonna have a review of it.
743
- [1396.72 --> 1397.72] Everything's gonna be cool.
744
- [1397.72 --> 1400.72] I'm gonna buy not that many games, but the games that I do buy will be awesome.
745
- [1400.72 --> 1409.72] In other news, Razor's prototypes of Project Valerie were stolen.
746
- [1409.72 --> 1410.72] Bummer.
747
- [1410.72 --> 1416.72] They are offering a $25,000 reward for any information...
748
- [1416.72 --> 1418.72] I don't think any information.
749
- [1418.72 --> 1425.72] But basically, they are offering a reward for someone who helps them get it back or returns it.
750
- [1425.72 --> 1429.72] ...
751
- [1429.72 --> 1431.72] And everyone is blaming me and Tom Syndicate!
752
- [1431.72 --> 1438.72] So, I want to settle this once and for all.
753
- [1438.72 --> 1440.72] I will not admit...
754
- [1440.72 --> 1441.72] ...
755
- [1441.72 --> 1442.72] ...
756
- [1442.72 --> 1443.72] ...
757
- [1443.72 --> 1444.72] ...
758
- [1444.72 --> 1445.72] ...
759
- [1445.72 --> 1447.72] You gotta...
760
- [1448.40 --> 1449.34] There you go.
761
- [1449.82 --> 1450.62] That was a pretty good edit.
762
- [1450.64 --> 1452.72] This is circumstantial evidence at best.
763
- [1452.72 --> 1453.34] That was a pretty good edit.
764
- [1454.02 --> 1454.46] Circumstantial.
765
- [1454.68 --> 1455.84] That was a pretty damn good edit.
766
- [1456.06 --> 1460.42] I am clearly still at CES in this photograph.
767
- [1460.42 --> 1464.60] You know, it's a little awkward that you would have that at the AMD event.
768
- [1466.22 --> 1473.88] I really don't think that anything about the Ryzen poster over my right shoulder would indicate that I am...
769
- [1473.88 --> 1474.50] Does that mean you're...
770
- [1474.50 --> 1475.66] I'm in the Razor booth here.
771
- [1475.72 --> 1476.80] You're giving trade secrets?
772
- [1476.92 --> 1478.12] I'm in the Razor booth here.
773
- [1478.20 --> 1478.66] To AMD?
774
- [1478.82 --> 1479.76] Clearly in the Razor booth.
775
- [1479.92 --> 1480.36] Interesting.
776
- [1480.88 --> 1481.28] Obviously.
777
- [1481.88 --> 1484.14] 2018, there's gonna be an AMD laptop.
778
- [1484.32 --> 1485.22] Three screens.
779
- [1488.02 --> 1490.80] And little did they know, they stole the worst idea ever.
780
- [1494.42 --> 1496.58] This is clearly much better evidence.
781
- [1499.02 --> 1501.04] I don't know why he's talking about me there, though.
782
- [1501.06 --> 1501.94] Let's just do that.
783
- [1502.28 --> 1502.56] There.
784
- [1503.08 --> 1503.48] Working.
785
- [1504.28 --> 1504.54] See?
786
- [1504.54 --> 1507.52] He is clearly poised to steal it.
787
- [1508.90 --> 1509.34] What?
788
- [1509.54 --> 1510.24] I don't get it.
789
- [1510.36 --> 1511.54] As for the third piece of evidence...
790
- [1511.54 --> 1512.54] Um...
791
- [1512.54 --> 1514.54] Okay.
792
- [1518.70 --> 1519.02] Okay.
793
- [1519.22 --> 1522.02] Now this, again, highly circumstantial.
794
- [1522.50 --> 1524.34] This is apparently a post from...
795
- [1524.34 --> 1526.00] A post from our forum?
796
- [1526.00 --> 1528.70] Our own users turning on me.
797
- [1528.70 --> 1535.56] This is from the CES WAN show to the part where Linus tells Austin they have a mutual acquaintance
798
- [1535.56 --> 1541.78] who offered Linus double sticker price to steal him or her an Acer Predator 21X.
799
- [1541.78 --> 1549.14] So, clearly, the offer was to steal a Predator 21X, which didn't go missing.
800
- [1549.34 --> 1550.36] Not the right one, bro.
801
- [1550.38 --> 1550.60] Yeah.
802
- [1551.02 --> 1551.74] So...
803
- [1551.74 --> 1552.04] Okay.
804
- [1552.86 --> 1555.74] I appreciate the evidence stuff and you trying to, like, dodge out of it.
805
- [1555.78 --> 1557.16] Obviously, Linus didn't steal it.
806
- [1557.48 --> 1558.04] That's fine.
807
- [1558.10 --> 1558.66] Everyone's joking.
808
- [1558.74 --> 1559.14] It's cool.
809
- [1559.54 --> 1561.82] How the freaking hell...
810
- [1561.82 --> 1563.52] Like, I'm sorry, Razor, that you've lost your thing.
811
- [1563.62 --> 1563.78] Yeah.
812
- [1563.86 --> 1565.40] How did you do that?
813
- [1565.70 --> 1566.84] So, I asked.
814
- [1567.50 --> 1567.72] Yeah.
815
- [1567.82 --> 1570.52] I emailed my PR guy there.
816
- [1570.82 --> 1573.82] I'm like, so is this a publicity stunt?
817
- [1574.02 --> 1574.40] Yeah.
818
- [1574.52 --> 1576.00] Because it really feels like it.
819
- [1576.10 --> 1577.02] And he's like, no.
820
- [1578.02 --> 1578.34] So...
821
- [1578.34 --> 1578.96] But how?
822
- [1579.06 --> 1579.56] Hold on.
823
- [1579.68 --> 1580.02] Hold on.
824
- [1580.02 --> 1580.22] Okay.
825
- [1580.76 --> 1582.14] So, I'll say this.
826
- [1583.06 --> 1588.44] Like, my Razor Contact is a straight shooter.
827
- [1588.68 --> 1588.96] Yeah.
828
- [1589.52 --> 1590.54] I trust him.
829
- [1590.74 --> 1591.00] Yeah.
830
- [1591.00 --> 1592.60] He's a good guy.
831
- [1593.40 --> 1596.56] He says, nah, they were legitimately taken.
832
- [1597.18 --> 1600.94] One of the back rooms was unlocked during the last 30 minutes of the show.
833
- [1601.56 --> 1607.62] So, the thing about the back rooms is that if you've ever been to, like, in the back of
834
- [1607.62 --> 1610.94] a CES booth before, I saw...
835
- [1610.94 --> 1614.90] Did you see the inside of the parrot control room that one year when they were doing the
836
- [1614.90 --> 1615.90] bebop dancing thing?
837
- [1616.40 --> 1617.50] It was incredible.
838
- [1617.50 --> 1622.18] It was like an entire additional parrot booth full of, like, drones and drone repair stuff
839
- [1622.18 --> 1627.86] and, like, all the sensors and crap that were running that automatic dance thing.
840
- [1627.96 --> 1628.18] Anyway.
841
- [1628.18 --> 1631.12] So, there can be a lot of, like, backroom stuff.
842
- [1631.24 --> 1634.78] Typically, those are accessible through a panel that opens in the back of the booth.
843
- [1635.24 --> 1639.14] So, all the Razor staff could have been running around doing things.
844
- [1639.14 --> 1643.60] Especially on the last day of the show, you tend to be a little bit more short-staffed because
845
- [1643.60 --> 1648.96] some people have flown out early or gotten tired or gotten sick by that point in the show.
846
- [1649.30 --> 1650.72] So, take your prototypes home.
847
- [1650.72 --> 1654.28] Not that easy to transport.
848
- [1654.94 --> 1655.72] They're very fragile.
849
- [1656.08 --> 1657.24] They wouldn't even let me pick it up.
850
- [1657.28 --> 1659.66] Yeah, but so the people leaving early should take them...
851
- [1659.66 --> 1664.42] But you still want them there in case you have to show them to, like, a partner or something.
852
- [1664.68 --> 1665.28] I mean, most...
853
- [1665.28 --> 1666.22] They probably didn't have meetings.
854
- [1666.40 --> 1667.12] So, okay.
855
- [1667.40 --> 1668.16] I'm saying this.
856
- [1668.26 --> 1668.88] You're not wrong.
857
- [1669.64 --> 1670.46] But I also get it.
858
- [1670.46 --> 1670.48] It's insanity.
859
- [1670.58 --> 1671.06] I...
860
- [1671.06 --> 1673.88] I don't know if I get it.
861
- [1673.88 --> 1676.56] I can comprehend what they're saying.
862
- [1676.70 --> 1677.82] And I think I'm leaving it there.
863
- [1678.00 --> 1679.20] That's how insane this is.
864
- [1679.46 --> 1682.36] I've had, like, terrible things at shows.
865
- [1682.46 --> 1684.22] Have security sensors on them.
866
- [1684.48 --> 1688.28] Whether it's, like, if it goes too far away from the booth, it starts beeping.
867
- [1688.72 --> 1689.60] I've had that.
868
- [1690.08 --> 1692.24] Not that hard to do, to be honest.
869
- [1692.36 --> 1692.68] Okay, fair enough.
870
- [1692.68 --> 1694.60] I've had, like, where it's on a cable.
871
- [1694.82 --> 1697.68] I've had where there's a little key thing.
872
- [1697.82 --> 1698.16] I don't remember.
873
- [1698.42 --> 1700.60] Kensington lock, which that thing probably doesn't have.
874
- [1700.72 --> 1701.36] But whatever.
875
- [1701.36 --> 1702.50] Yeah, it would, I guess.
876
- [1702.50 --> 1704.98] Because it's just a Blade Pro with a...
877
- [1704.98 --> 1705.22] Does this?
878
- [1705.30 --> 1706.52] This doesn't have a Kensington lock.
879
- [1706.78 --> 1707.24] Doesn't it?
880
- [1707.44 --> 1708.36] Do all the...
881
- [1708.36 --> 1708.90] Does mine?
882
- [1709.14 --> 1709.42] Oh.
883
- [1709.90 --> 1711.90] I don't think razor blades have Kensington.
884
- [1711.98 --> 1712.56] Oh, yeah, yeah.
885
- [1712.66 --> 1713.16] Yeah, mine does.
886
- [1713.50 --> 1714.18] Oh, mine does.
887
- [1714.42 --> 1715.52] So, I guess the Pro does.
888
- [1715.52 --> 1717.08] So, the Stealth doesn't have one?
889
- [1717.28 --> 1718.04] No, I don't think so.
890
- [1720.68 --> 1721.08] Huh.
891
- [1721.94 --> 1722.54] That's funny.
892
- [1722.60 --> 1724.62] Because it's, like, the most stealable one.
893
- [1724.84 --> 1725.04] Yeah.
894
- [1725.38 --> 1726.14] No Kensington lock.
895
- [1726.58 --> 1726.86] Anyways.
896
- [1728.24 --> 1729.38] There's Kensington locks.
897
- [1729.38 --> 1731.72] There's security tags.
898
- [1731.72 --> 1733.50] There's distance, whatever.
899
- [1733.70 --> 1734.22] Fun fact.
900
- [1734.54 --> 1745.34] LG had the security sticker on a still plastic wrapped laptop for the LG Gram.
901
- [1745.54 --> 1748.82] I was tempted to take it off and just see if it would go off.
902
- [1749.46 --> 1750.86] I decided not to.
903
- [1750.94 --> 1751.66] I decided against it.
904
- [1751.68 --> 1753.04] I'd already been yelled at at Sony.
905
- [1753.04 --> 1758.08] People are accusing me of faking, like, me getting yelled at there.
906
- [1758.54 --> 1759.90] But, no.
907
- [1760.14 --> 1765.04] Like, six people were, like, running towards me, telling me to get off the stage.
908
- [1765.10 --> 1767.86] Because I legitimately did have permission.
909
- [1767.86 --> 1772.34] Just like I do normally have permission to do the outlandish stuff that I do.
910
- [1772.54 --> 1778.22] I had permission from one guy who didn't communicate to everyone else that I was going to be jumping up on the stage.
911
- [1778.24 --> 1783.38] Because they were hardcore about people not going up there and looking at Cletus.
912
- [1783.38 --> 1790.06] Which is the big, like, modular display thing.
913
- [1790.24 --> 1793.94] Because if you touch Sony's Cletus, it could be damaged.
914
- [1796.90 --> 1803.24] Oh, I did not see that.
915
- [1803.38 --> 1808.26] In all seriousness, though, the Cletus display is very fragile.
916
- [1808.26 --> 1811.56] So you don't want to rub it too hard.
917
- [1812.24 --> 1813.38] Just the right amount.
918
- [1813.60 --> 1814.50] Just the right amount.
919
- [1816.34 --> 1817.84] You might misalign it.
920
- [1820.34 --> 1821.44] We lost it there.
921
- [1821.92 --> 1822.58] It's cool.
922
- [1822.84 --> 1823.52] Just forget it.
923
- [1823.78 --> 1825.26] Everybody just don't worry about it.
924
- [1825.42 --> 1825.54] Yeah.
925
- [1826.38 --> 1830.06] You know what we do have to worry about is our sponsors for today.
926
- [1830.42 --> 1830.68] Yay.
927
- [1831.02 --> 1832.92] This WAN show is brought to you by...
928
- [1832.92 --> 1833.74] Ooh, I fix it.
929
- [1833.82 --> 1834.86] I fix it.
930
- [1834.86 --> 1836.90] But they saved my...
931
- [1836.90 --> 1838.52] Well, actually, Brandon specifically...
932
- [1838.52 --> 1840.36] A huge unintentional sponsor of CES.
933
- [1840.38 --> 1840.62] Yeah.
934
- [1840.82 --> 1842.72] Saved my bacon at the show.
935
- [1842.88 --> 1844.10] I thought about it.
936
- [1844.56 --> 1847.74] I had my iFixit kit in my backpack.
937
- [1848.52 --> 1850.04] And I was like, should I take it?
938
- [1850.12 --> 1850.94] Should I not take it?
939
- [1851.00 --> 1856.60] Because every other year, I've, like, brought tools and then not ended up using them.
940
- [1857.62 --> 1859.44] Then you used it so much this year.
941
- [1859.82 --> 1862.04] So Brandon had it with him.
942
- [1862.04 --> 1863.24] So I got to Acer.
943
- [1863.32 --> 1864.50] It was the first booth I did.
944
- [1865.20 --> 1867.72] And immediately, I...
945
- [1867.72 --> 1868.66] There were a couple things.
946
- [1868.92 --> 1872.24] Immediately, I saw the Predator 21X and I had to open it.
947
- [1872.52 --> 1874.72] I was like, I need to see the inside.
948
- [1874.90 --> 1876.40] It ended up being kind of anticlimactic.
949
- [1876.50 --> 1879.36] When I get my unit, I'm going to have to spend some real time.
950
- [1879.44 --> 1881.16] Like, it's going to take me a couple hours to tear it down.
951
- [1881.30 --> 1881.46] Yeah.
952
- [1881.50 --> 1884.48] Because they have, like, a mid plate and stuff to really get at the hardware.
953
- [1884.84 --> 1885.08] Okay, yeah.
954
- [1885.72 --> 1887.40] But I was like, immediately, I have to open it.
955
- [1887.50 --> 1889.48] And I was like, I can't believe I left that at home.
956
- [1889.52 --> 1890.54] And Brandon's like, oh, I've got mine.
957
- [1891.06 --> 1892.78] And I'm like, give it to me.
958
- [1892.78 --> 1893.88] And he's like, oh, it's back in the hotel.
959
- [1893.88 --> 1895.30] I'm like, Colton, go get it.
960
- [1895.96 --> 1897.30] So Colton went and got it.
961
- [1897.60 --> 1900.50] And then the other thing was also, again, in the Acer booth.
962
- [1901.22 --> 1907.10] They weren't sure about the drive options in one of the laptops.
963
- [1907.18 --> 1908.64] Remember, these are engineering sample laptops.
964
- [1908.82 --> 1910.52] Like, even some of the hardware wasn't final.
965
- [1910.64 --> 1913.42] There was one with a TN panel and the spec sheet said IPS.
966
- [1913.66 --> 1914.52] And I was like, what's going on?
967
- [1914.52 --> 1916.36] And they're like, oh, I don't know.
968
- [1916.40 --> 1917.00] We'll find out.
969
- [1917.10 --> 1918.16] So they had to call HQ.
970
- [1918.50 --> 1922.88] And it turns out that on early engineering samples, they just throw cheap OTNs in them.
971
- [1923.08 --> 1923.90] Sort of makes sense.
972
- [1923.92 --> 1924.68] To save some cost.
973
- [1924.76 --> 1927.34] And I was like, oh, you probably shouldn't have that at a trade show.
974
- [1927.42 --> 1927.82] But sure.
975
- [1929.04 --> 1929.80] Anyway, sorry.
976
- [1929.94 --> 1930.42] iFixit.
977
- [1930.48 --> 1930.64] Right.
978
- [1930.94 --> 1933.24] They make great tools for, oh, yeah.
979
- [1933.24 --> 1935.66] They've got guides on their website for repairing your electronics.
980
- [1935.66 --> 1936.32] I met the guy.
981
- [1936.46 --> 1937.16] And upgrading them.
982
- [1937.42 --> 1937.64] What?
983
- [1937.86 --> 1938.16] Yeah.
984
- [1938.60 --> 1938.96] What guy?
985
- [1939.04 --> 1939.76] Super randomly.
986
- [1940.38 --> 1940.66] What?
987
- [1940.82 --> 1941.00] Who?
988
- [1941.30 --> 1942.50] Like, the iFixit guy.
989
- [1942.80 --> 1943.62] I can't remember his name right now.
990
- [1944.66 --> 1945.70] Like, the guy.
991
- [1945.78 --> 1946.64] Hopefully he's not watching.
992
- [1946.94 --> 1947.78] CEO guy.
993
- [1947.84 --> 1948.32] Oh, really?
994
- [1948.44 --> 1948.62] Yeah.
995
- [1949.30 --> 1950.34] Oh, I thought you meant, like, our rep.
996
- [1950.36 --> 1951.02] He's super cool.
997
- [1951.20 --> 1952.00] Met him at HP.
998
- [1952.30 --> 1952.58] Oh.
999
- [1952.78 --> 1956.04] He grilled them with me, which was actually hilariously awesome.
1000
- [1956.78 --> 1958.00] We were both talking about the Omen.
1001
- [1958.40 --> 1963.34] And I brought up about how he gave the Microsoft Surface Studio a 5 out of 10 repairability score.
1002
- [1963.34 --> 1963.44] Yeah.
1003
- [1963.56 --> 1965.62] And how that was, like, kind of hilarious and true.
1004
- [1965.94 --> 1967.66] And we talked about that for a second.
1005
- [1967.72 --> 1967.90] Yeah.
1006
- [1967.90 --> 1972.16] And then he, like, laughed at their case, which was great.
1007
- [1972.22 --> 1972.50] No!
1008
- [1972.78 --> 1974.02] Like, right in front of them.
1009
- [1974.24 --> 1974.88] No filter.
1010
- [1975.02 --> 1976.38] I was like, you are so cool.
1011
- [1978.26 --> 1981.90] And I've been, like, trying to go back and forth with this HP guy for a while.
1012
- [1981.98 --> 1985.40] Like, man, like, why is your I.O. on your motherboard so lacking?
1013
- [1985.66 --> 1986.38] And, like, all this kind of stuff.
1014
- [1986.42 --> 1987.60] Because they have their own custom motherboard.
1015
- [1987.78 --> 1989.80] And, like, he's like, oh, what else do you want?
1016
- [1989.86 --> 1991.98] And then I was like, any audio options?
1017
- [1991.98 --> 1992.92] And I don't know.
1018
- [1993.02 --> 1994.10] We were going back and forth a little bit.
1019
- [1994.10 --> 2000.62] And then iFixit guy comes up and just, like, doesn't even wait for the HP guy to, like, possibly come back with anything.
1020
- [2000.70 --> 2002.92] And it's just like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
1021
- [2003.04 --> 2003.42] All right.
1022
- [2003.48 --> 2004.62] Like, bye.
1023
- [2005.42 --> 2006.98] It was really cool.
1024
- [2007.42 --> 2007.82] Terrible.
1025
- [2008.04 --> 2008.34] Savage.
1026
- [2008.34 --> 2009.26] It was awesome.
1027
- [2009.68 --> 2010.42] That was cool.
1028
- [2010.64 --> 2022.40] Anyway, so iFixit is all about repairing and upgrading your electronics yourself with their step-by-step guides and their huge inventory of replacement parts and tools with lifetime warranties for the tools, not the replacement parts.
1029
- [2023.22 --> 2029.34] So today we're talking about their latest and greatest all-new ProTech toolkit, which you've seen featured...
1030
- [2029.34 --> 2036.60] on the WAN show and on normal Linus Tech Tips content in the past, including, like, Scrappy Art Wars and other big things.
1031
- [2036.60 --> 2041.98] Did I ever tell you about the time that I specifically said in a video that I was just using an iFixit kit and it wasn't sponsored by iFixit?
1032
- [2042.24 --> 2046.36] Then the video production schedule got shifted and it ended up being sponsored by iFixit.
1033
- [2047.28 --> 2048.46] Was that left in the video?
1034
- [2048.62 --> 2048.82] Yeah.
1035
- [2049.08 --> 2049.98] Oh, that's awkward.
1036
- [2050.12 --> 2050.30] Yeah.
1037
- [2050.30 --> 2066.02] Anyway, it has a bunch of prying tools, suction cups, poking tools, cutting tools, plying tools, anti-static tools, and a whack ton of screwdrivers and bits that have been enough for me to assemble or disassemble pretty much anything.
1038
- [2066.82 --> 2068.14] And I'm going to do this again.
1039
- [2068.22 --> 2077.82] I've done this before and I feel kind of terrible about it, but I'm going to criticize or offer constructive criticism about the product during a sponsor spot for the product.
1040
- [2077.82 --> 2085.72] The one thing that gets me sometimes is deeper holes.
1041
- [2086.40 --> 2095.56] You'll find them in the bottoms of laptops sometimes where the plastic hole is really deep until you can get to the screw.
1042
- [2096.04 --> 2099.50] So there is a workaround and this saved me on the Predator.
1043
- [2099.98 --> 2100.72] Was it the Predator?
1044
- [2101.26 --> 2101.54] Whatever.
1045
- [2101.66 --> 2103.80] One of the laptops, I almost didn't get open.
1046
- [2103.80 --> 2110.90] So there's a workaround where you use one of the sockets and then you put the bit into the socket.
1047
- [2111.28 --> 2118.56] But it would be nice to have like a longer shaft, like a super slim longer shaft extension type thing.
1048
- [2119.46 --> 2121.38] That would be even better.
1049
- [2121.78 --> 2127.02] But as it is, I've only very rarely been defeated when I have an iFixit kit in my hands.
1050
- [2127.10 --> 2129.04] Anyway, what are we talking about again?
1051
- [2129.48 --> 2132.32] The longer shaft that you would like to have.
1052
- [2132.32 --> 2132.84] Wow.
1053
- [2133.48 --> 2147.34] Okay, so grab an all new ProTech toolkit or their less expensive Essentials electronic toolkit by heading over to iFixit.com slash Linus and use offer code WANSHOW to save five bucks on your purchase of $10 or more.
1054
- [2147.52 --> 2148.78] Highly recommended iFixit.
1055
- [2148.88 --> 2149.54] We love their stuff.
1056
- [2149.62 --> 2150.04] We really do.
1057
- [2150.48 --> 2151.66] Your shaft is plenty long.
1058
- [2151.66 --> 2156.44] I think that you can work on all of those laptops completely fine.
1059
- [2159.22 --> 2160.04] You've got to be careful.
1060
- [2160.16 --> 2160.84] I might work on you.
1061
- [2161.80 --> 2162.78] That's why I know it's plenty.
1062
- [2162.94 --> 2164.30] Anyways, fresh books.
1063
- [2166.02 --> 2166.92] Fresh books.
1064
- [2166.92 --> 2174.56] Okay, so if you're a freelancer, not that kind of freelancer.
1065
- [2174.68 --> 2176.08] Not that kind of freelancer.
1066
- [2176.74 --> 2180.52] I'm pretty sure most of them work sort of under the table.
1067
- [2180.78 --> 2181.00] Cash deals?
1068
- [2181.62 --> 2182.76] Cash deals.
1069
- [2182.88 --> 2184.38] I'm pretty sure most clients don't want like a...
1070
- [2184.38 --> 2186.36] I don't think you can accept roses on FreshBooks.
1071
- [2187.82 --> 2188.34] Wow.
1072
- [2189.52 --> 2190.08] Wow.
1073
- [2190.16 --> 2192.36] Fresh books is totally dropping us.
1074
- [2192.56 --> 2193.04] Restarting.
1075
- [2193.04 --> 2196.44] Okay, so note for Colton.
1076
- [2197.16 --> 2198.92] When you're linking the sponsor...
1077
- [2198.92 --> 2200.34] Make the timestamp a little later.
1078
- [2200.34 --> 2203.26] Yeah, leave the timestamp a little later for the FreshBooks spot.
1079
- [2203.28 --> 2205.94] Should we do like one normal topic here to like give some extra buffer?
1080
- [2205.94 --> 2206.88] No, we'll just pretend.
1081
- [2207.30 --> 2207.76] So hold on.
1082
- [2207.78 --> 2208.30] Give me one second.
1083
- [2210.06 --> 2216.64] So that's why I was telling those guys that I really just think peaches make absolutely no sense in this context.
1084
- [2216.74 --> 2217.78] It doesn't work with the case.
1085
- [2217.96 --> 2218.28] I know.
1086
- [2218.44 --> 2218.72] I know.
1087
- [2218.84 --> 2220.46] Like why peach case?
1088
- [2220.64 --> 2220.78] Yeah.
1089
- [2220.78 --> 2224.70] Anyway, we should start up one of our sponsor spots here.
1090
- [2224.90 --> 2225.42] FreshBooks.
1091
- [2225.54 --> 2228.50] So FreshBooks is the easy to use invoicing...
1092
- [2228.50 --> 2233.32] That helps small businesses look professional and get paid faster.
1093
- [2233.42 --> 2237.08] You can try FreshBooks completely free for 30 days at freshbooks.com slash WAN.
1094
- [2237.48 --> 2239.40] And make sure you type WAN in the how do you hear about a section.
1095
- [2239.48 --> 2240.22] With no timestamps.
1096
- [2240.34 --> 2241.70] Would you maybe do that?
1097
- [2241.70 --> 2251.56] So FreshBooks lets you run a small computer repair business or accounting or John apparently needs Luke for something in the closet over there.
1098
- [2251.98 --> 2255.80] And if you have any questions, you can reach out to their support staff.
1099
- [2255.92 --> 2256.04] Right.
1100
- [2256.14 --> 2256.30] Okay.
1101
- [2256.38 --> 2259.34] So FreshBooks lets you create your invoices, send them.
1102
- [2259.42 --> 2260.32] You can track your hours.
1103
- [2260.42 --> 2261.54] You can track your expenses.
1104
- [2261.54 --> 2267.74] You can see when people have seen your invoices, which takes the guessing games out of that whole rigmarole.
1105
- [2268.22 --> 2271.68] And if you have any questions, you can reach out to their support staff where you'll speak to a real human.
1106
- [2271.82 --> 2272.44] No phone treat.
1107
- [2272.54 --> 2273.24] No escalations.
1108
- [2273.58 --> 2274.52] Nothing like that.
1109
- [2274.60 --> 2276.12] And they just got a mobile card reader.
1110
- [2276.20 --> 2281.52] So check them out at freshbooks.com slash WAN and try out a free trial today.
1111
- [2283.72 --> 2284.16] Wow.
1112
- [2284.16 --> 2286.90] All righty then.
1113
- [2287.50 --> 2289.46] So I'm by myself now, which is fine.
1114
- [2289.72 --> 2290.82] Colton, everything's okay.
1115
- [2291.16 --> 2292.90] Everything is okay.
1116
- [2294.14 --> 2295.14] Everything is fine.
1117
- [2295.68 --> 2296.80] Everything is awesome.
1118
- [2297.80 --> 2301.44] Norway becomes the first country to kill FM radio.
1119
- [2301.58 --> 2303.48] This was posted by Dat Speed on the forum.
1120
- [2303.74 --> 2303.98] Wow.
1121
- [2304.16 --> 2305.36] That poor Colton.
1122
- [2305.46 --> 2306.76] He didn't even get to say anything.
1123
- [2308.86 --> 2310.06] Just gone.
1124
- [2311.26 --> 2313.90] Discover where Trump's America meets the world.
1125
- [2313.90 --> 2314.82] What is this?
1126
- [2314.94 --> 2319.20] This is an ad for subscribing to the Washington Post, which I definitely won't be doing.
1127
- [2319.70 --> 2320.14] Okay.
1128
- [2320.30 --> 2321.46] What am I looking at?
1129
- [2321.48 --> 2322.30] Please sign in.
1130
- [2322.48 --> 2323.66] I don't think you can read it.
1131
- [2327.14 --> 2329.98] I don't think you can read it.
1132
- [2331.28 --> 2331.76] Okay.
1133
- [2332.40 --> 2333.90] Well, whatever.
1134
- [2334.24 --> 2334.76] Get it right.
1135
- [2334.76 --> 2336.62] That article was from the Washington Post.
1136
- [2337.12 --> 2339.92] Now it's from engadget.com.
1137
- [2339.92 --> 2345.08] It's like why this model doesn't work online.
1138
- [2346.04 --> 2347.00] In a nutshell.
1139
- [2347.76 --> 2348.02] Ooh.
1140
- [2349.60 --> 2351.90] Norway killing FM radio.
1141
- [2352.08 --> 2359.94] Only a quarter of the cars on the road are ready for the switch, which is more than I would have thought because the switch was just announced.
1142
- [2359.94 --> 2360.62] Yeah.
1143
- [2363.12 --> 2363.56] Yeah.
1144
- [2363.70 --> 2364.08] Literally.
1145
- [2364.28 --> 2364.54] Get it?
1146
- [2364.80 --> 2364.96] Yeah.
1147
- [2365.96 --> 2374.40] So Norway has started switching off FM transmitters as of January 11th, 2017, becoming the first in the world to dump the 80-year-old standard.
1148
- [2374.54 --> 2376.96] They're switching over to digital audio broadcasting.
1149
- [2376.96 --> 2383.62] This will give citizens more stations, better coverage, program time shifting, which is actually kind of cool.
1150
- [2383.74 --> 2385.10] So that's like VOD, but odd.
1151
- [2385.40 --> 2387.68] Just in case you didn't know, the acronym for that is DAB.
1152
- [2389.04 --> 2390.38] Digital audio broadcasting?
1153
- [2391.58 --> 2392.10] DAB.
1154
- [2393.84 --> 2394.48] I'm not even going to.
1155
- [2395.16 --> 2395.48] Yeah.
1156
- [2395.78 --> 2397.10] That's all as far as I go.
1157
- [2397.54 --> 2401.94] The majority of people are against the transition.
1158
- [2402.58 --> 2404.56] We're simply not ready for this year.
1159
- [2404.56 --> 2405.00] Someone.
1160
- [2406.82 --> 2407.98] Like actually, yeah.
1161
- [2408.30 --> 2410.74] Looking at numbers, they actually aren't.
1162
- [2410.90 --> 2416.48] It reportedly cost between 120 to 230 US dollars for a DAB car radio adapter.
1163
- [2418.10 --> 2420.90] DAB has been running alongside FM in Norway since 90.
1164
- [2420.92 --> 2422.10] I've never even heard.
1165
- [2423.14 --> 2424.02] Digital audio broadcasting?
1166
- [2424.12 --> 2424.30] Yeah.
1167
- [2424.32 --> 2424.98] Is this just serious?
1168
- [2425.98 --> 2426.90] I don't think so.
1169
- [2426.94 --> 2427.60] Or like, no.
1170
- [2427.90 --> 2428.10] Yeah.
1171
- [2428.20 --> 2428.56] No.
1172
- [2429.44 --> 2431.18] Honestly, I've never even heard of it.
1173
- [2431.28 --> 2431.66] I'm sorry.
1174
- [2431.66 --> 2435.50] I'm pretty sure we've talked about it on Wancho, but like a ridiculously long time ago.
1175
- [2436.08 --> 2436.60] Like, okay.
1176
- [2436.68 --> 2440.52] In my real life, outside of like a news article that I read somewhere?
1177
- [2440.66 --> 2441.70] Well, Canada doesn't.
1178
- [2442.56 --> 2442.92] Okay.
1179
- [2443.10 --> 2443.16] So that's why.
1180
- [2443.16 --> 2444.78] We're not going to do that in a long time.
1181
- [2444.90 --> 2445.22] Okay.
1182
- [2445.26 --> 2447.08] I can pretty much guarantee you that's going to be quite a while.
1183
- [2447.48 --> 2449.90] FM's like still pretty legit, right?
1184
- [2450.00 --> 2451.18] Seems mostly fine.
1185
- [2451.64 --> 2452.16] It works for me.
1186
- [2452.16 --> 2452.44] There are.
1187
- [2452.54 --> 2452.70] Okay.
1188
- [2452.78 --> 2453.04] There are.
1189
- [2453.10 --> 2453.88] I don't remember what they are.
1190
- [2453.88 --> 2454.80] Am I becoming an old person?
1191
- [2454.80 --> 2455.12] I've read.
1192
- [2456.30 --> 2456.92] Not quite.
1193
- [2458.36 --> 2459.56] I'm stressing out right now.
1194
- [2459.92 --> 2460.36] You're fine.
1195
- [2460.36 --> 2461.34] Don't worry about it.
1196
- [2463.02 --> 2463.34] It's.
1197
- [2464.22 --> 2464.58] Ugh.
1198
- [2466.32 --> 2466.64] I only.
1199
- [2466.64 --> 2467.06] It's fine.
1200
- [2467.24 --> 2467.90] There's benefits.
1201
- [2468.12 --> 2471.36] It's been a long time, so I don't want to say what they are because I'm probably going
1202
- [2471.36 --> 2472.60] to get 90% of it wrong.
1203
- [2472.74 --> 2476.20] But there are benefits to dab, whatever.
1204
- [2476.38 --> 2476.60] Yeah.
1205
- [2476.60 --> 2477.22] There's a lot of broadcasting.
1206
- [2477.22 --> 2477.80] Time shift is cool.
1207
- [2478.02 --> 2480.24] Like there's some cool stuff.
1208
- [2480.42 --> 2484.36] But then if I was just going to like listen to podcasts, then like.
1209
- [2485.16 --> 2486.16] I don't think it's that.
1210
- [2486.16 --> 2492.04] Every radio show I listen to has a podcast version that I could use as a, as an audio
1211
- [2492.04 --> 2494.20] on demand, like time shift thing anyway.
1212
- [2494.38 --> 2495.38] I think it's different.
1213
- [2500.76 --> 2502.46] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1214
- [2502.64 --> 2504.40] Across Europe and Asia Pacific.
1215
- [2504.52 --> 2507.22] Well, that explains why I haven't really encountered it much.
1216
- [2507.40 --> 2507.66] Yeah.
1217
- [2507.66 --> 2511.54] I'm sure everyone in Twitch is just telling me I'm a complete idiot, but they're saying
1218
- [2511.54 --> 2512.82] D-A-B, not dab.
1219
- [2513.48 --> 2513.86] Whatever.
1220
- [2515.08 --> 2515.44] Yeah.
1221
- [2515.52 --> 2515.92] Who cares?
1222
- [2516.08 --> 2516.70] That was a joke.
1223
- [2516.70 --> 2517.04] Learn to love it.
1224
- [2517.16 --> 2517.88] Learn to love it.
1225
- [2517.88 --> 2518.02] It was a joke.
1226
- [2518.26 --> 2520.06] Learn to love it because it's not going away.
1227
- [2520.18 --> 2522.18] We're not the only ones that are going to make that joke either.
1228
- [2524.02 --> 2524.42] Okay.
1229
- [2524.62 --> 2526.50] The signals are so bad in whatever.
1230
- [2528.58 --> 2532.00] Dab will suck because FMU can still hear with a bad signal.
1231
- [2532.14 --> 2533.00] Dab is all or nothing.
1232
- [2533.34 --> 2533.54] Yeah.
1233
- [2533.64 --> 2533.96] Okay.
1234
- [2534.02 --> 2534.84] It sounds about right.
1235
- [2534.84 --> 2536.16] That sounds terrible.
1236
- [2536.16 --> 2538.16] Yeah.
1237
- [2538.88 --> 2540.84] I think I sort of get it.
1238
- [2541.58 --> 2546.16] The Dab standard was initiated as a European research product in the 1960s.
1239
- [2547.08 --> 2551.60] The Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation launched the first Dab channel in the world.
1240
- [2551.78 --> 2553.24] So they're trying to do that again.
1241
- [2553.48 --> 2553.80] Okay.
1242
- [2554.26 --> 2554.70] Cool.
1243
- [2555.40 --> 2556.64] Well, good luck with that.
1244
- [2557.88 --> 2561.52] I really do feel like an old person though because I was about to say, like it was halfway
1245
- [2561.52 --> 2566.60] out of my mouth to say, whenever I turn on the radio, I just want to hear whatever's
1246
- [2566.60 --> 2567.46] on there right now.
1247
- [2567.54 --> 2572.46] Like I have no, I have no use for fiddling around with it, but I sound like my parents
1248
- [2572.46 --> 2574.54] talking about like TiVo.
1249
- [2574.68 --> 2574.86] Okay.
1250
- [2574.86 --> 2575.80] But there's both.
1251
- [2575.80 --> 2578.82] Because you'll also listen to other stuff like through your phone and stuff.
1252
- [2579.14 --> 2581.08] And I will do Bluetooth through my phone.
1253
- [2581.52 --> 2581.62] Yeah.
1254
- [2581.62 --> 2584.48] Or if I'm like, oh, that's screwed up or it's paused or whatever.
1255
- [2584.54 --> 2585.44] I don't feel like pulling it out.
1256
- [2585.54 --> 2585.86] Whatever.
1257
- [2586.58 --> 2587.40] FM on.
1258
- [2587.48 --> 2590.36] And it goes on to one of the two radio stations that I listen to and I'm like, cool.
1259
- [2590.62 --> 2591.38] I have something.
1260
- [2591.50 --> 2592.58] That's all I really care about for now.
1261
- [2592.82 --> 2593.90] I'll fix it later.
1262
- [2594.02 --> 2594.26] Right.
1263
- [2594.26 --> 2597.14] Or if I'm going on like a long drive, I'll make sure it's all good.
1264
- [2597.22 --> 2598.28] My podcast, whatever.
1265
- [2598.50 --> 2598.60] Right.
1266
- [2599.06 --> 2601.28] Book from Bill Nye, whatever I'm currently listening to.
1267
- [2602.40 --> 2605.16] I don't think we've had Audible book, Audible as a sponsor for a while.
1268
- [2605.16 --> 2605.82] Yeah, it's been a while.
1269
- [2605.94 --> 2607.20] But I listened to books through there.
1270
- [2608.68 --> 2609.24] All right.
1271
- [2609.44 --> 2612.36] So in other news, the Nokia 6.
1272
- [2612.60 --> 2615.40] Nokia's first Android smartphone is official.
1273
- [2615.60 --> 2619.16] And it is totally different from every other Android smartphone.
1274
- [2620.16 --> 2621.30] Smartphone totally different.
1275
- [2621.90 --> 2623.08] 4 gigs of RAM.
1276
- [2623.58 --> 2624.16] Snapdragon 430.
1277
- [2625.58 --> 2626.86] 64 gigs of storage.
1278
- [2626.96 --> 2627.56] Micro SD.
1279
- [2627.86 --> 2630.20] 16 megapixel main camera, which means nothing, by the way.
1280
- [2630.56 --> 2631.86] 3,000 milliamp hour battery.
1281
- [2632.06 --> 2633.22] 5.5 inch display.
1282
- [2633.46 --> 2634.46] 1080p resolution.
1283
- [2634.46 --> 2635.80] Android Nougat OS.
1284
- [2636.12 --> 2636.88] 245 bucks.
1285
- [2637.34 --> 2638.16] Launching in China.
1286
- [2639.28 --> 2641.54] It will go on sale in early 2017.
1287
- [2642.10 --> 2644.84] Available exclusively through retailerjd.com.
1288
- [2644.90 --> 2645.50] See, that's different.
1289
- [2645.56 --> 2646.34] The price is good.
1290
- [2646.82 --> 2647.16] Yes.
1291
- [2647.38 --> 2650.02] The retail exclusivity is different.
1292
- [2650.46 --> 2651.18] Not good.
1293
- [2651.90 --> 2652.34] At all.
1294
- [2653.62 --> 2654.86] Well, do you really want one?
1295
- [2655.20 --> 2655.50] No.
1296
- [2655.66 --> 2657.94] So even if it's not good, it's not bad.
1297
- [2658.20 --> 2658.92] It's just nothing.
1298
- [2658.92 --> 2660.50] Well, it's bad for people that do want one.
1299
- [2660.92 --> 2661.62] Who would want one?
1300
- [2661.62 --> 2662.86] I don't know.
1301
- [2663.50 --> 2666.54] It represents the modern design ethics of a smartphone.
1302
- [2666.54 --> 2668.00] Yes, except for ashes.
1303
- [2671.84 --> 2672.58] Good call.
1304
- [2673.62 --> 2674.10] Okay.
1305
- [2674.46 --> 2674.74] Well.
1306
- [2674.96 --> 2675.70] Thanks, John.
1307
- [2675.70 --> 2680.34] In other news, HDMI 2.1 was announced at CES.
1308
- [2680.54 --> 2683.38] So the original post here is actually from AVS forum.
1309
- [2683.92 --> 2684.16] Yeah.
1310
- [2684.28 --> 2687.88] So it includes, this is like a very significant upgrade.
1311
- [2688.04 --> 2693.44] So HDMI 2.0, which took long enough to get adopted, went from 10.2 to 18 gigabit per second.
1312
- [2693.44 --> 2695.30] So that gives us 4K 60 hertz.
1313
- [2696.34 --> 2702.44] HDMI 2.1 looks to be taking on DisplayPort 1.3 and 1.4 head on.
1314
- [2703.74 --> 2705.64] 48 gigabit per second.
1315
- [2705.80 --> 2712.20] So HDMI 2.1 is designed to handle 8K resolution at up to 60 FPS.
1316
- [2712.96 --> 2718.82] 4K at 120 FPS, although that math doesn't quite work out, with support for dynamic HDR metadata.
1317
- [2718.82 --> 2722.76] So dynamic HDR is different from static HDR, which is what we have today.
1318
- [2722.98 --> 2734.82] The final spec to be announced in Q2 of 2017, at which point all of your fancy new HDR TV in 4K whatever can just get wrecked.
1319
- [2734.82 --> 2742.70] This is great, because no matter how cool DisplayPort and stuff is, HDMI sort of wins.
1320
- [2743.76 --> 2744.62] This is fun.
1321
- [2744.70 --> 2747.78] The original article here is from LiveScience or LiveScience.com.
1322
- [2747.78 --> 2748.04] Oh, yeah.
1323
- [2748.08 --> 2748.84] This is super cool.
1324
- [2749.02 --> 2753.82] The U.S. Army wants biodegradable bullets that sprout plants.
1325
- [2754.96 --> 2757.44] Make love at the same time as war.
1326
- [2759.84 --> 2761.54] It's all like hippie and whatnot, right?
1327
- [2761.76 --> 2763.82] You know, you've got to plant some plants.
1328
- [2763.82 --> 2764.52] Plant some plants.
1329
- [2764.60 --> 2765.08] I think it's cool.
1330
- [2765.14 --> 2765.80] Kill some people.
1331
- [2766.50 --> 2768.24] So here's what I...
1332
- [2768.24 --> 2771.36] Okay.
1333
- [2772.04 --> 2774.18] So currently, here's the explanation.
1334
- [2774.74 --> 2779.12] Currently, the U.S. Army manufactures and consumes hundreds of thousands of training rounds.
1335
- [2779.28 --> 2781.28] Oh, training rounds.
1336
- [2781.64 --> 2787.68] So they don't intend to actually plant plants in the countries that they are stomping on.
1337
- [2787.80 --> 2787.96] Yeah.
1338
- [2788.96 --> 2790.08] Now it makes more sense.
1339
- [2790.10 --> 2790.40] Just back home.
1340
- [2790.40 --> 2796.76] These rounds are fired at proving grounds and training ranges in the United States and around the world.
1341
- [2797.08 --> 2801.58] The materials in the current training rounds need hundreds of years or more to biodegrade.
1342
- [2801.58 --> 2818.54] So the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory, SCURL, has demonstrated bioengineered seeds that can be embedded into the biodegradable composites and that will not germinate until they have been in the ground for several months.
1343
- [2818.54 --> 2826.72] So if you just, like, change your targeting range every several months, then it'll turn into a patch of trees, I guess.
1344
- [2827.72 --> 2829.18] Or plants in general.
1345
- [2829.74 --> 2830.48] That's cool.
1346
- [2831.66 --> 2832.02] Okay.
1347
- [2832.38 --> 2832.76] Hooray.
1348
- [2833.06 --> 2836.18] Consumer Reports now magically recommends the MacBook Pro.
1349
- [2836.32 --> 2836.96] Well, it's not magic.
1350
- [2837.16 --> 2840.10] It's a software update that apparently fixed the battery life issues.
1351
- [2840.18 --> 2843.54] What I want to know is how fast the processor is running now, but that's a whole other conversation.
1352
- [2843.54 --> 2846.76] So there you go.
1353
- [2846.84 --> 2854.28] Basically, one model ran at 18.75 hours on a charge, which is pretty fantastic.
1354
- [2855.16 --> 2862.94] They tested each model multiple times using the new software following the same protocol that they apply to hundreds of laptops every year.
1355
- [2862.94 --> 2877.42] So earlier when they evaluated them, the results were highly inconsistent, anywhere from 3.75 to up to 19.5 hours between charges, which is obviously a bit of a problem.
1356
- [2877.94 --> 2883.94] So another option, because you ran into some serious issues when you were trying to do battery life testing on Windows 10.
1357
- [2884.02 --> 2884.44] Yes.
1358
- [2884.44 --> 2886.80] Where you would have ranges of hours.
1359
- [2887.22 --> 2888.26] Like many hours.
1360
- [2888.26 --> 2889.30] On the same laptop.
1361
- [2889.50 --> 2889.82] Yes.
1362
- [2890.40 --> 2892.30] Doing the same test back to back.
1363
- [2893.42 --> 2900.20] So Luke's theory is that it has to do with a bunch of telemetry and background services and processes.
1364
- [2900.20 --> 2901.64] Like other Funko stuff that Windows 10 is doing.
1365
- [2901.82 --> 2908.84] And even with a lot of guides, like stop Windows 10 from creeping on me guides and stuff, which turn off a lot of it.
1366
- [2909.28 --> 2911.20] But it's still fishy.
1367
- [2911.92 --> 2912.20] Right.
1368
- [2912.20 --> 2914.04] There's still weird stuff.
1369
- [2914.98 --> 2915.40] Windows 10.
1370
- [2915.50 --> 2916.72] And it's hard to monitor.
1371
- [2917.88 --> 2922.38] Because if I'm going to monitor it, it just like massively increases the time that I'd work on the project.
1372
- [2922.56 --> 2923.32] And it changes it.
1373
- [2923.82 --> 2925.66] Like you have to actively be there.
1374
- [2925.86 --> 2926.60] And there's a lot of.
1375
- [2926.98 --> 2927.26] Yeah.
1376
- [2927.42 --> 2929.04] It makes the scale kind of ridiculous.
1377
- [2931.22 --> 2934.22] Chrysler pulled a VW, cheated their emissions test.
1378
- [2934.62 --> 2936.46] Oh, still loading engadget.com.
1379
- [2937.10 --> 2937.60] We'll get there.
1380
- [2937.60 --> 2943.00] The EPA says Chrysler is violating the Clean Air Act.
1381
- [2943.22 --> 2945.18] How long is the Clean Air Act going to last?
1382
- [2947.98 --> 2949.96] Well, actually, probably a long time now.
1383
- [2950.26 --> 2952.36] Because they're just going to sue the crap of them.
1384
- [2952.62 --> 2952.96] Oh.
1385
- [2952.96 --> 2953.20] Oh.
1386
- [2955.20 --> 2955.98] Blah, blah, blah.
1387
- [2956.32 --> 2957.22] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1388
- [2958.14 --> 2964.16] Trump also made specific and ambiguous promises about energy, environmental statutes like the Clean Air Act.
1389
- [2965.74 --> 2966.42] Blah, blah, blah.
1390
- [2966.68 --> 2967.38] Oh, okay.
1391
- [2968.24 --> 2968.88] Not sure.
1392
- [2969.38 --> 2969.64] Okay.
1393
- [2969.78 --> 2970.00] Okay.
1394
- [2970.08 --> 2974.46] I had thought I had read something saying that he had an actual plan for it, but I must have been mistaken.
1395
- [2976.16 --> 2976.88] Uh, okay.
1396
- [2976.88 --> 2979.86] I love how software, like, this must have been a really rough week.
1397
- [2980.08 --> 2982.46] Because, like, Slack being on the Windows Store.
1398
- [2983.92 --> 2984.32] Yeah.
1399
- [2984.92 --> 2987.06] Well, I mean, that's the thing about CES.
1400
- [2987.22 --> 2988.94] It's like, there's nothing the week before.
1401
- [2989.12 --> 2990.46] Then it's like, boom!
1402
- [2990.62 --> 2991.86] And then there's nothing right after.
1403
- [2991.92 --> 2993.34] And then there's nothing right after.
1404
- [2993.34 --> 2999.78] Unless, like, something that happened the week before at CES gets stolen, for example.
1405
- [2999.90 --> 3000.06] Yeah.
1406
- [3000.18 --> 3000.90] Yeah, then there's something.
1407
- [3001.18 --> 3001.28] Yeah.
1408
- [3002.26 --> 3003.44] Or is HDMI.
1409
- [3003.62 --> 3011.50] Basically, the EPA is alleging that they installed software in some of their diesel vehicles that increased emissions beyond the company's claims.
1410
- [3012.04 --> 3021.90] EPA says that light-duty model year 2014, 2015, and 2016 Grand Cherokees and Dodge Ram 1500 trucks with 3-liter diesel engines sold in the United States
1411
- [3021.90 --> 3024.14] are releasing excess nitrogen oxide emissions.
1412
- [3024.64 --> 3028.18] They allege that approximately 100,000 vehicles were covered in the claim.
1413
- [3029.06 --> 3034.38] So, it's to a lesser degree than VW's controversy.
1414
- [3034.66 --> 3036.40] It's only about a fifth as many vehicles.
1415
- [3037.42 --> 3037.96] So what?
1416
- [3038.48 --> 3042.06] Fiat Chrysler Automobiles is denying any wrongdoing at this time.
1417
- [3042.62 --> 3043.84] So, we'll see how that goes.
1418
- [3043.96 --> 3044.12] Yeah.
1419
- [3044.12 --> 3054.98] I would be interested to see what a law would look like that punishes offenders more severely for denying it.
1420
- [3057.98 --> 3069.38] I would be interested to see, like, if you screw up in a way that's, like, cheating, if the money that you have to pay goes towards competing industries.
1421
- [3070.32 --> 3070.60] Hmm.
1422
- [3071.00 --> 3073.62] So, if you have to actually, so if Chrysler had to pay Ford.
1423
- [3074.26 --> 3078.78] Like, if somehow, let's, well, no, no, no, no, competing industries.
1424
- [3079.22 --> 3083.52] So, it would be, like, say, like, solar panel companies somehow cheated at something.
1425
- [3083.62 --> 3083.90] Yeah.
1426
- [3084.08 --> 3085.24] They'd have to, like, pay.
1427
- [3085.34 --> 3085.84] Big oil.
1428
- [3086.16 --> 3086.52] Yeah.
1429
- [3087.60 --> 3090.32] Probably going to go in reverse, just to be fair.
1430
- [3090.32 --> 3095.96] But, like, it would be interesting to be, like, yeah, if you cheat and you get caught, you will directly aid your competition.
1431
- [3096.68 --> 3097.28] Very interesting.
1432
- [3097.30 --> 3098.72] Like, industry competition.
1433
- [3098.98 --> 3102.22] Not, like, the company that's doing the same thing as you.
1434
- [3103.92 --> 3105.02] I think that would be interesting.
1435
- [3105.26 --> 3106.82] And not, like, you wouldn't give it to, like, Tesla.
1436
- [3107.06 --> 3109.66] But you'd give it to, like, the grants that Tesla gets.
1437
- [3110.14 --> 3110.46] Interesting.
1438
- [3110.70 --> 3113.14] You know, like, the, like, electric car.
1439
- [3113.26 --> 3114.48] Like, you buy it and you get money off.
1440
- [3114.56 --> 3114.80] Yeah.
1441
- [3114.96 --> 3116.02] It, like, goes towards that.
1442
- [3116.02 --> 3121.90] So, you would be subsidizing people to buy things that aren't yours into a competing technology.
1443
- [3123.26 --> 3125.76] That would get so messy so fast.
1444
- [3126.42 --> 3126.56] Yeah.
1445
- [3127.10 --> 3127.50] It would.
1446
- [3127.74 --> 3137.40] So, there's a rumor over on WCCF Tech that the 1080 Ti could possibly be released at PAX East.
1447
- [3137.86 --> 3139.90] I personally doubt it.
1448
- [3140.32 --> 3140.70] Me too.
1449
- [3141.04 --> 3144.10] I don't know anything for sure, but I doubt it will be at PAX East.
1450
- [3144.10 --> 3146.12] When has NVIDIA cared about PAX East?
1451
- [3146.52 --> 3148.02] Since when has anyone cared about it?
1452
- [3148.04 --> 3148.96] Oh, game tabs, I guess.
1453
- [3149.06 --> 3149.26] Yeah.
1454
- [3149.52 --> 3151.02] Because it's, like, the first PAX of the year.
1455
- [3151.70 --> 3154.16] So, that's actually why PAX Prime ended up being kind of a bummer.
1456
- [3154.16 --> 3157.04] There's some interesting stuff in terms of games at PAX East.
1457
- [3157.72 --> 3159.96] Hardware does not have a very strong presence there.
1458
- [3160.04 --> 3160.20] Yeah.
1459
- [3160.22 --> 3161.36] We know that from experience.
1460
- [3161.66 --> 3161.94] Yeah.
1461
- [3162.06 --> 3164.50] It's really hard to make videos at PAX East.
1462
- [3166.38 --> 3169.94] It's easy to make videos at CES.
1463
- [3169.94 --> 3175.36] There just often isn't, like, my problem would be, like, okay, this is my 14th case.
1464
- [3176.94 --> 3180.48] I don't know if I can make another video about cases without people getting mad.
1465
- [3181.22 --> 3185.32] But, like, at PAX East, bring a case.
1466
- [3185.98 --> 3186.48] Please.
1467
- [3187.02 --> 3187.90] Show me something.
1468
- [3188.40 --> 3189.70] There's, like, never anything there.
1469
- [3189.70 --> 3190.30] Some RGB.
1470
- [3190.76 --> 3191.84] Some tempered glass.
1471
- [3192.08 --> 3193.54] Just, just, just something.
1472
- [3193.54 --> 3196.36] Make something out of RGB and tempered glass and we'll be fine.
1473
- [3196.36 --> 3198.86] The problem is all the hardware guys just went to CES.
1474
- [3199.30 --> 3199.72] Yeah.
1475
- [3200.10 --> 3202.18] So, like, the, uh, I don't know.
1476
- [3202.46 --> 3204.46] Okay, I'm gonna tease an upcoming video.
1477
- [3204.98 --> 3205.68] Because I just can't contain this.
1478
- [3205.68 --> 3207.02] Oh, man, really?
1479
- [3207.56 --> 3209.02] I just can't contain this.
1480
- [3209.98 --> 3212.50] Speaking of RGB, okay?
1481
- [3212.50 --> 3220.78] I have a video on how you, too, can own the world's most, I'm not gonna show it to you
1482
- [3220.78 --> 3227.28] guys too, too, too well here, but the world's most shiny RGB keyboard ever.
1483
- [3231.16 --> 3235.28] Someone's just gonna grab that frame and then have it.
1484
- [3236.22 --> 3236.66] Yes.
1485
- [3236.76 --> 3238.26] I don't know if you can recreate that.
1486
- [3238.72 --> 3241.18] You really have to, like, see it in glam footage.
1487
- [3241.18 --> 3245.52] Um, we should do, like, a build called, like, the RGB build.
1488
- [3245.84 --> 3246.34] Yeah, we should.
1489
- [3246.54 --> 3247.46] And have, but no, no, no.
1490
- [3247.68 --> 3247.90] Oh.
1491
- [3248.28 --> 3249.30] We should do that, too.
1492
- [3249.64 --> 3249.96] Okay.
1493
- [3250.12 --> 3253.26] That we, I think they were, they were supposed to pitch it to someone, but anyways.
1494
- [3253.42 --> 3253.60] Yeah.
1495
- [3253.72 --> 3254.20] Um.
1496
- [3254.22 --> 3255.60] We've been meaning to do that forever.
1497
- [3255.68 --> 3256.74] You know Kyle just did one, right?
1498
- [3256.88 --> 3257.14] Yeah.
1499
- [3257.26 --> 3257.46] Yeah.
1500
- [3257.88 --> 3258.24] Whatever.
1501
- [3258.80 --> 3260.62] I wonder how long that's been on the list.
1502
- [3260.70 --> 3265.12] I should go back in, like, the, uh, the, like, the dock, like, history and see when we
1503
- [3265.12 --> 3265.48] added it.
1504
- [3265.50 --> 3268.32] The original, like, Corsair RGB keyboard.
1505
- [3268.32 --> 3269.28] We can one-up him, though.
1506
- [3269.28 --> 3272.78] I found an RGB SSD at, uh, at CES.
1507
- [3272.88 --> 3274.22] And I have some more plans, too.
1508
- [3274.32 --> 3276.10] I want to, like, sync with room lighting and stuff.
1509
- [3276.36 --> 3276.68] Anyways.
1510
- [3277.16 --> 3277.64] Um.
1511
- [3277.74 --> 3278.10] Chroma.
1512
- [3278.40 --> 3282.86] I want to do an RGB build where we have, like, maybe, it would probably have to work with,
1513
- [3282.94 --> 3283.96] like, levers or something.
1514
- [3284.36 --> 3287.86] But, like, manually, literally just red, green, and blue.
1515
- [3287.98 --> 3291.16] And you can, like, change the colors of the panels on your case.
1516
- [3291.16 --> 3299.72] Maybe it was, like, cloth, and it, like, rolls up.
1517
- [3299.72 --> 3301.26] And you can just show the...
1518
- [3301.26 --> 3303.18] Here's what I'll say about this idea.
1519
- [3303.86 --> 3305.62] Some of your ideas are really good.
1520
- [3308.26 --> 3309.56] I think...
1521
- [3309.56 --> 3314.38] We should totally do it.
1522
- [3314.62 --> 3315.50] Come on, Twitch chat.
1523
- [3315.50 --> 3316.50] You just want...
1524
- [3316.50 --> 3317.24] I'm gonna make a truffle.
1525
- [3317.24 --> 3320.90] You just want a pizza heating PC for 2017, don't you?
1526
- [3321.08 --> 3322.94] Oh, I'm gonna make number two, I think.
1527
- [3323.46 --> 3325.04] Number two pizza machine?
1528
- [3325.16 --> 3325.18] Yeah.
1529
- [3325.28 --> 3328.14] I need to work with someone, because I want to make it, like, really nice.
1530
- [3328.18 --> 3328.98] But I have some ideas.
1531
- [3329.10 --> 3329.38] Okay.
1532
- [3329.52 --> 3331.00] I need it, like, machined and stuff.
1533
- [3332.02 --> 3333.26] Like, it's gonna be sick.
1534
- [3333.40 --> 3333.66] What?
1535
- [3333.92 --> 3336.74] I also want to have, like, a pizza oven, like, built into it.
1536
- [3336.84 --> 3339.88] So you could cook it and then, like, keep it heated.
1537
- [3339.88 --> 3341.66] No, we've got some ideas.
1538
- [3341.80 --> 3343.94] Pizza Heater 2 is gonna be real.
1539
- [3344.84 --> 3346.70] We better get more dislikes this time.
1540
- [3346.84 --> 3350.78] Anyways, um, real RGB PC.
1541
- [3352.06 --> 3352.52] Yes.
1542
- [3353.08 --> 3353.56] Yes.
1543
- [3354.38 --> 3354.66] Yes.
1544
- [3354.66 --> 3355.50] Oh, wow.
1545
- [3355.82 --> 3359.64] You can't put all yeses in the answer for a straw poll.
1546
- [3359.66 --> 3361.70] I didn't put all yeses, I just put three yeses.
1547
- [3361.72 --> 3362.10] No.
1548
- [3362.90 --> 3363.38] Terrible.
1549
- [3363.70 --> 3365.00] There's just three different yeses.
1550
- [3365.06 --> 3367.22] Okay, well, while you guys are voting on that,
1551
- [3367.22 --> 3372.38] um, I will use this opportunity to tell you about the Floatplane Club.
1552
- [3372.74 --> 3373.10] Hooray.
1553
- [3373.72 --> 3374.24] Hooray.
1554
- [3375.94 --> 3378.60] And I'm gonna post that instead of Luke's garbage.
1555
- [3379.22 --> 3381.84] So that, yeah, it's gonna be a competition for,
1556
- [3382.16 --> 3385.22] you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be fighting against my Floatplane Club posts.
1557
- [3385.52 --> 3387.46] You want Floatplane Club to be a success.
1558
- [3387.70 --> 3388.16] Yeah, that's right.
1559
- [3388.16 --> 3388.18] I do.
1560
- [3388.18 --> 3388.74] I wanna say.
1561
- [3388.74 --> 3389.24] Yeah, that's right.
1562
- [3389.46 --> 3389.88] That's right.
1563
- [3389.98 --> 3390.30] That's right.
1564
- [3390.30 --> 3393.22] People that are on the Floatplane Club, I'm sorry about the CES stuff.
1565
- [3393.22 --> 3397.38] The plan was you guys were gonna get videos, like, as soon as we were done editing them,
1566
- [3397.40 --> 3400.12] and you're gonna see them early, and then, like, eight of them didn't go up.
1567
- [3400.46 --> 3406.40] So I'm pretty not stoked on the fact that that happened, and...
1568
- [3406.40 --> 3410.38] But the idea behind it is that we have our own early access platform,
1569
- [3410.54 --> 3413.52] which is actually a lot better than the last time we talked about it.
1570
- [3414.86 --> 3416.76] 20% of people are saying no.
1571
- [3417.52 --> 3419.22] 20% of people are saying no?
1572
- [3419.32 --> 3421.70] That's a lot for, like, a video suggestion.
1573
- [3421.70 --> 3422.26] Yeah.
1574
- [3422.72 --> 3424.12] Maybe we don't have to do it.
1575
- [3424.48 --> 3425.64] The real RGB PC?
1576
- [3425.72 --> 3426.36] Oh, yeah.
1577
- [3426.46 --> 3426.96] No, no.
1578
- [3427.04 --> 3428.18] We do not have to do that.
1579
- [3429.44 --> 3429.84] Maybe.
1580
- [3430.60 --> 3433.66] So, basically, it's our early access platform.
1581
- [3433.98 --> 3435.96] The way it works is...
1582
- [3435.96 --> 3436.78] Oh, it's 19 now.
1583
- [3436.84 --> 3437.40] Maybe we should.
1584
- [3438.62 --> 3439.24] Maybe we should.
1585
- [3439.46 --> 3441.26] Yeah, 20 is, like, a hard stop.
1586
- [3441.38 --> 3442.30] That's a hard threshold.
1587
- [3442.48 --> 3443.32] Oh, it's back up to 20.
1588
- [3443.40 --> 3443.56] Shit.
1589
- [3447.48 --> 3447.88] Terrible.
1590
- [3447.88 --> 3455.50] I want to see if there's any way for me to show this without showing anything that I shouldn't show.
1591
- [3455.74 --> 3456.40] I don't think so.
1592
- [3456.60 --> 3457.22] There might be.
1593
- [3457.40 --> 3459.18] You'd have to, like, do a weird zoom, but maybe.
1594
- [3460.50 --> 3460.90] Okay.
1595
- [3461.34 --> 3462.42] So that would work.
1596
- [3463.56 --> 3463.92] Okay.
1597
- [3464.04 --> 3465.86] So, basically, here we go.
1598
- [3465.92 --> 3467.46] I will do this very carefully.
1599
- [3467.76 --> 3468.70] Oh, God.
1600
- [3468.80 --> 3470.06] I will do it very carefully.
1601
- [3470.06 --> 3470.78] Because that's, like, ours.
1602
- [3471.00 --> 3472.06] I will do it very carefully.
1603
- [3472.26 --> 3472.54] Okay.
1604
- [3472.74 --> 3473.54] So, this is John.
1605
- [3474.34 --> 3474.82] Hi, John.
1606
- [3474.82 --> 3475.50] And this is his post.
1607
- [3475.76 --> 3476.80] Hi, John's post.
1608
- [3476.96 --> 3477.62] Of a video.
1609
- [3478.12 --> 3478.82] There's a video.
1610
- [3479.34 --> 3480.10] That I can play.
1611
- [3480.76 --> 3482.26] Hey, look how fast it started playing.
1612
- [3482.54 --> 3483.20] Hey, look at that.
1613
- [3483.24 --> 3483.86] Wasn't that cool?
1614
- [3484.42 --> 3486.16] And then I could...
1615
- [3486.16 --> 3487.54] Hold on.
1616
- [3487.62 --> 3488.04] Hold on.
1617
- [3488.28 --> 3489.66] And then I could go full screen.
1618
- [3490.10 --> 3490.76] Oh, dang it.
1619
- [3491.18 --> 3492.28] Careful when you come back out of it.
1620
- [3492.38 --> 3493.94] Maybe switch to...
1621
- [3493.94 --> 3494.38] Full screen.
1622
- [3494.90 --> 3495.14] Woo!
1623
- [3495.28 --> 3496.56] Okay, I'm not going to come back out of it.
1624
- [3496.56 --> 3496.66] What the heck is that?
1625
- [3497.00 --> 3499.52] I don't know, but it was really scary.
1626
- [3500.14 --> 3502.16] So, anyway, that's a Tech Quickie video.
1627
- [3502.16 --> 3504.22] That right now is not on YouTube.
1628
- [3504.86 --> 3510.88] So, basically, Luke AL built a video streaming platform.
1629
- [3511.02 --> 3511.44] Luke AL?
1630
- [3511.76 --> 3512.14] AL.
1631
- [3512.40 --> 3514.64] It's, like, and company.
1632
- [3515.34 --> 3515.60] Oh.
1633
- [3516.90 --> 3518.12] E-T-A-L.
1634
- [3518.52 --> 3518.74] Gotcha.
1635
- [3519.48 --> 3520.82] Built a video streaming platform.
1636
- [3520.94 --> 3524.24] There's still a lot of stuff that is very much in progress.
1637
- [3524.66 --> 3527.54] There's some really cool things that I think I want to, like...
1638
- [3527.54 --> 3528.64] How much do you want to talk about?
1639
- [3528.74 --> 3529.76] Okay, I think I want to release a video...
1640
- [3529.76 --> 3530.52] Do you want to show that page?
1641
- [3531.52 --> 3531.92] No.
1642
- [3532.16 --> 3533.18] We can't show that page.
1643
- [3533.24 --> 3533.36] No.
1644
- [3533.42 --> 3534.48] Even if we don't show the IP.
1645
- [3534.78 --> 3535.62] Let's not show that page.
1646
- [3535.62 --> 3536.62] You don't want to show that page?
1647
- [3536.70 --> 3541.86] Okay, but see, my theory is I think I want to launch a video on the Flowplane Club about
1648
- [3541.86 --> 3542.70] those pages.
1649
- [3542.98 --> 3543.34] Okay.
1650
- [3543.54 --> 3543.92] All right.
1651
- [3544.06 --> 3545.58] So, we show it to Flowplane Club first.
1652
- [3545.68 --> 3545.90] Yeah.
1653
- [3546.20 --> 3546.64] Fair enough.
1654
- [3547.06 --> 3547.36] Okay.
1655
- [3547.36 --> 3550.60] Anyway, so what we're working on is better image quality.
1656
- [3550.60 --> 3551.72] We're going to have early access.
1657
- [3552.06 --> 3557.18] We're going to try and have a less toxic sort of community vibe compared to YouTube, which
1658
- [3557.18 --> 3561.04] was something a lot of Vessel viewers were really upset about losing.
1659
- [3561.46 --> 3563.42] Right now, everything is done through the forum.
1660
- [3563.42 --> 3567.94] But in the future, and development is how in progress.
1661
- [3568.30 --> 3569.70] Very much so in progress.
1662
- [3569.78 --> 3570.20] Very in progress.
1663
- [3570.20 --> 3571.38] And it looks amazing.
1664
- [3571.92 --> 3573.82] I just want to say, like, damn.
1665
- [3574.12 --> 3578.04] For everyone that's worked on it, back end, front end, middle, CMS.
1666
- [3578.04 --> 3579.52] CMS, low end.
1667
- [3579.60 --> 3580.10] Top end.
1668
- [3580.52 --> 3581.92] Eric, cat, Linus.
1669
- [3581.94 --> 3582.28] Rear end.
1670
- [3582.30 --> 3583.18] But not this one.
1671
- [3583.60 --> 3583.84] Mortis.
1672
- [3583.84 --> 3584.92] Yeah, different Linus, actually.
1673
- [3585.30 --> 3585.64] Everyone.
1674
- [3585.90 --> 3588.84] That's been, like, oh, very good.
1675
- [3589.76 --> 3590.34] Very, very good.
1676
- [3593.12 --> 3594.00] All right.
1677
- [3595.72 --> 3604.10] Henry on Twitch says, who the three asteriskses, asteriskses, thinks we're toxic.
1678
- [3605.26 --> 3605.72] Wow.
1679
- [3606.62 --> 3607.32] Twitch chat.
1680
- [3608.76 --> 3609.52] Twitch chat.
1681
- [3610.92 --> 3611.70] Twitch chat.
1682
- [3613.16 --> 3613.56] Anyways.
1683
- [3614.26 --> 3617.28] Anyway, link one more time there so you guys can join.
1684
- [3618.10 --> 3619.44] That's what we're calling it.
1685
- [3619.56 --> 3620.54] It's three bucks a month.
1686
- [3622.10 --> 3622.42] Yeah.
1687
- [3623.64 --> 3625.88] Right now, it's very, very early access.
1688
- [3626.28 --> 3627.60] But, yeah.
1689
- [3628.04 --> 3629.54] I think that's pretty much it, right?
1690
- [3629.60 --> 3629.78] Yeah.
1691
- [3630.02 --> 3630.72] Do we have anything else?
1692
- [3630.90 --> 3631.10] Nope.
1693
- [3631.32 --> 3631.62] Okay.
1694
- [3631.74 --> 3632.38] You have to get to your thing.
1695
- [3632.48 --> 3634.36] Yeah, I've got badminton classes.
1696
- [3634.48 --> 3635.54] I need to, like, leave.
1697
- [3635.68 --> 3636.42] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1698
- [3636.42 --> 3636.60] Oh.
1699
- [3636.90 --> 3637.66] Okay, bye.
1700
- [3638.04 --> 3638.24] Yeah.
1701
- [3639.06 --> 3639.98] Bye, everyone.
1702
- [3640.32 --> 3640.74] Animation.
1703
- [3641.24 --> 3642.20] I don't think there's music.
1704
- [3643.76 --> 3645.24] Well, it's like, YouTube isn't toxic.
1705
- [3645.38 --> 3645.92] You're toxic.
1706
- [3647.44 --> 3649.58] That's you saying that is toxic.
1707
- [3649.72 --> 3650.66] Showbiz Pizza Bear.
1708
- [3650.80 --> 3654.08] YouTube comments are worse than cancer, and I've had cancer.
1709
- [3654.56 --> 3658.24] I don't believe you've actually had cancer if you say something like that.
1710
- [3658.24 --> 3661.86] I'm pretty sure cancer is actually very terrible compared to YouTube comments.
1711
- [3663.54 --> 3664.38] Good night, everybody.
1712
- [3664.38 --> 3664.44] Good night, everybody.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Did AMD Deceive Consumers w⧸ Vega Pricing? - - WAN Show August 18, 2017_transcript.txt DELETED
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1
- [0.00 --> 8.88] All right, it's WAN show time again and you guys may or may not have noticed there's something a little different
2
- [9.96 --> 13.16] About the show today. I know what it is
3
- [14.44 --> 21.92] I'm screen sharing off a Mac. I'm using a Mac. Oh, no, that's it. Isn't it concept once I know right?
4
- [23.28 --> 28.60] So yeah, we've got a couple special guests. We've got Jay's two cents from the YouTube channel Jay's two cents
5
- [28.60 --> 32.56] There's pretty much no way you guys don't know who he is
6
- [32.56 --> 38.40] And then we've got Dimitri from hardware Canucks who a lot of you will probably know who he is as well
7
- [38.40 --> 40.40] So we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today
8
- [40.88 --> 44.88] What are they oh? Yeah in unexpected news?
9
- [46.24 --> 53.28] AMD's Vega graphics cards are more expensive than MSRP. Oh my god. Who saw that coming more vega news?
10
- [53.28 --> 57.60] Oh wait, I've got okay. You guys are all being sarcastic, which is kind of a dick move, okay?
11
- [57.60 --> 60.20] This is not a sarcastic show. No, okay? This is a
12
- [60.72 --> 66.06] This is a forthright and clear communicative show that sentences
13
- [67.80 --> 74.68] In other news Intel claims that the 8700k will be about 11% faster than the 7700k
14
- [76.74 --> 80.30] Cool, but can we just not say anything if we're gonna be not sarcastic?
15
- [80.30 --> 84.08] You know what if you guys aren't gonna like you guys aren't gonna do the show nicely then
16
- [84.08 --> 87.24] You could just go actually you know what no I'm just gonna go
17
- [87.24 --> 93.08] Okay, okay? Well after that we have probably more intro shows over
18
- [93.08 --> 97.54] This is the end this is the end of everything the end of days
19
- [97.54 --> 99.54] Hello world as we know it
20
- [99.54 --> 100.54] Hello world as we know it
21
- [100.54 --> 101.54] Hello world as we know it
22
- [101.54 --> 104.54] You are the weakest like
23
- [104.54 --> 105.54] Goodbye
24
- [105.54 --> 106.54] Goodbye
25
- [106.54 --> 108.54] Where'd you find that?
26
- [108.54 --> 109.54] It's very bottomless today
27
- [109.54 --> 110.54] What?
28
- [110.54 --> 111.54] What?
29
- [111.54 --> 112.54] I was looking for it
30
- [112.54 --> 113.54] Neither of us could find it
31
- [113.54 --> 114.54] This?
32
- [114.54 --> 115.54] Yeah, for that
33
- [115.54 --> 116.54] Well for that
34
- [116.54 --> 117.54] That was in like one of your main compartments of your back then
35
- [117.54 --> 118.54] Shut up
36
- [118.54 --> 119.54] Neither of us could find it we were both looking for it
37
- [119.54 --> 120.54] Yeah
38
- [120.54 --> 121.54] Good job Nick
39
- [121.54 --> 122.54] Magic hands
40
- [122.54 --> 123.54] Magic hands
41
- [123.54 --> 124.54] Magic hands
42
- [124.54 --> 125.54] Oh
43
- [125.54 --> 126.54] Oops I clicked the wrong thing
44
- [126.54 --> 127.54] Uh
45
- [127.54 --> 128.54] Uh
46
- [128.54 --> 129.54] Uh
47
- [129.54 --> 131.54] Okay back on the oh oh no terrible everything's terrible
48
- [131.54 --> 132.54] What are you doing?
49
- [132.54 --> 134.54] Uh hold on hold on I got this
50
- [134.54 --> 135.54] Uh
51
- [135.54 --> 136.54] Uh
52
- [136.54 --> 137.54] Okay there
53
- [137.54 --> 138.54] What?
54
- [138.54 --> 139.54] And uh
55
- [139.54 --> 140.54] Sponsors
56
- [140.54 --> 141.54] Why do you have a NASCAR hat on?
57
- [141.54 --> 142.54] There we go don't worry about it
58
- [142.54 --> 144.54] Don't worry about the NASCAR hat
59
- [144.54 --> 146.54] There's reasons that will be revealed at another time
60
- [146.54 --> 147.54] Yeah
61
- [147.54 --> 150.54] Reas- it has nothing to do with scrapyard wars
62
- [150.54 --> 152.54] Or the closed toed shoes
63
- [152.54 --> 153.54] Yeah
64
- [153.54 --> 156.54] The fact that these guys are here also has nothing to do with it
65
- [156.54 --> 157.54] Yes nothing to do with scrapyard wars
66
- [157.54 --> 158.54] We flew in for Wansho and Wansho only
67
- [158.54 --> 159.54] Okay
68
- [159.54 --> 160.54] So actually
69
- [160.54 --> 163.54] I think that's probably a great topic for us to start with
70
- [163.54 --> 164.54] Uh guys
71
- [164.54 --> 167.54] Get amped about the upcoming season of scrapyard wars
72
- [167.54 --> 168.54] Yeah
73
- [168.54 --> 171.54] It's probably not gonna be out for like
74
- [171.54 --> 173.54] Six weeks to eight weeks
75
- [173.54 --> 175.54] Like I'm talking first episode
76
- [175.54 --> 178.54] But it's our Christmas present to you
77
- [178.54 --> 180.54] It'll be out first on float plane
78
- [180.54 --> 182.54] And it'll be out first on float plane
79
- [182.54 --> 183.54] I'll take those victories
80
- [183.54 --> 184.54] By that time
81
- [184.54 --> 185.54] Float plane
82
- [185.54 --> 186.54] Nope let's not go with that
83
- [186.54 --> 189.54] Float plane might not even exist anymore for all we know
84
- [189.54 --> 190.54] Who knows
85
- [190.54 --> 191.54] Um
86
- [191.54 --> 192.54] But uh what I will say
87
- [192.54 --> 193.54] I'm you know
88
- [193.54 --> 195.54] There's gonna be no spoilers on the show today you guys
89
- [195.54 --> 202.54] But what I will say is a huge thank you to uh Jay and Dimitri for flying all the way up here
90
- [202.54 --> 204.54] The pleasure was all ours
91
- [204.54 --> 205.54] Yes thank you for the invite
92
- [205.54 --> 206.54] Cool
93
- [206.54 --> 207.54] I'm uh yeah it was like
94
- [207.54 --> 208.54] We had a lot of fun
95
- [208.54 --> 212.54] So that's that's the only spoiler I'll give you guys is it was a ton of fun
96
- [212.54 --> 215.54] And uh yeah you know what that's it
97
- [215.54 --> 218.54] That's it so and now radio silence
98
- [218.54 --> 221.54] And don't even bother trying to get anything out of these guys
99
- [221.54 --> 224.54] Because they know the scrapyard wars code
100
- [224.54 --> 225.54] Yeah
101
- [225.54 --> 227.54] Say something and die
102
- [227.54 --> 229.54] I mean
103
- [229.54 --> 230.54] It's more like
104
- [230.54 --> 231.54] Um
105
- [231.54 --> 232.54] What is it
106
- [232.54 --> 237.54] A say umthing say and a I day
107
- [237.54 --> 241.54] You know we'll go with the pig Latin version of the code
108
- [241.54 --> 242.54] But yeah
109
- [242.54 --> 244.54] I just like that we left it where it's it's
110
- [244.54 --> 245.54] That's it in a nutshell
111
- [245.54 --> 246.54] Um
112
- [246.54 --> 248.54] Alright so guys
113
- [248.54 --> 253.54] First uh first article today this was posted by stay ass on the forum and the original article here
114
- [253.54 --> 255.54] How do I click a link on a Mac?
115
- [255.54 --> 256.54] What the hell is this?
116
- [256.54 --> 257.54] Yes!
117
- [257.54 --> 258.54] Okay
118
- [258.54 --> 259.54] Okay
119
- [259.54 --> 260.54] Uh yeah no spoilers
120
- [260.54 --> 261.54] Okay
121
- [261.54 --> 262.54] I just wanna
122
- [262.54 --> 263.54] Now it works
123
- [263.54 --> 264.54] What the heck?
124
- [264.54 --> 265.54] Just don't push too hard
125
- [265.54 --> 266.54] You have to do the force press
126
- [266.54 --> 267.54] Oh
127
- [267.54 --> 268.54] What why?
128
- [268.54 --> 269.54] Press?
129
- [269.54 --> 270.54] I know
130
- [270.54 --> 274.54] I go to use the touch screen to zoom and it's like
131
- [274.54 --> 275.54] No you'll have to do
132
- [275.54 --> 276.54] Ah
133
- [276.54 --> 278.54] I want my computer back
134
- [278.54 --> 279.54] Okay anyway
135
- [279.54 --> 280.54] Anyway
136
- [280.54 --> 281.54] Um
137
- [281.54 --> 284.54] A.I.B. Partners to Gamers Nexus
138
- [284.54 --> 285.54] This was posted by Steve Burke
139
- [285.54 --> 286.54] You know Steve right?
140
- [286.54 --> 287.54] Yeah yeah
141
- [287.54 --> 288.54] You know Steven? Yeah okay
142
- [288.54 --> 289.54] Uh
143
- [289.54 --> 290.54] Gibbo was right
144
- [290.54 --> 291.54] I like that guy
145
- [291.54 --> 292.54] About AMD price changing
146
- [292.54 --> 293.54] I like his hair
147
- [293.54 --> 294.54] AMD basically came out of the gate
148
- [294.54 --> 295.54] That's awesome
149
- [295.54 --> 297.54] With Vega 56 and Vega 64
150
- [297.54 --> 299.54] With an I think you guys in your reviews
151
- [299.54 --> 300.54] Probably agreed
152
- [300.54 --> 301.54] Hmm
153
- [301.54 --> 302.54] Vega 64 looks
154
- [302.54 --> 303.54] Okay
155
- [303.54 --> 305.54] Other than being a couple years late
156
- [305.54 --> 308.54] Because it's basically an overclocked 980 Ti
157
- [308.54 --> 311.54] And Vega 56 looks pretty good
158
- [311.54 --> 313.54] It's the $400 king
159
- [313.54 --> 314.54] Okay
160
- [314.54 --> 315.54] For compute anyway
161
- [315.54 --> 316.54] Okay
162
- [316.54 --> 318.54] So now
163
- [318.54 --> 319.54] It looks like
164
- [319.54 --> 331.54] Launch price of Vega 64 was supposed to be $500 but quickly shot to $600 in the wake of immediate inventory selling out
165
- [331.54 --> 332.54] So is this actual MSRP?
166
- [332.54 --> 333.54] Yep
167
- [333.54 --> 334.54] So is this actual MSRP?
168
- [334.54 --> 335.54] And
169
- [335.54 --> 337.54] Or is this just stores reacting?
170
- [337.54 --> 339.54] I'm going with the latter
171
- [339.54 --> 340.54] Yeah
172
- [340.54 --> 342.54] Let's see
173
- [342.54 --> 345.54] Cause we can't really blame them for that
174
- [345.54 --> 346.54] So this is interesting
175
- [346.54 --> 347.54] What does AMD website say?
176
- [347.54 --> 348.54] What does AMD website say?
177
- [348.54 --> 349.54] What does AMD website say?
178
- [349.54 --> 358.54] AMD provided the top retailers and e-tailers with a $499 price on Vega 64 coupling sale of the card with a rebate to reduce spend by retailers
179
- [358.54 --> 362.54] So basically that's like it's usually called like a POS rebate
180
- [362.54 --> 364.54] A point of sale rebate
181
- [364.54 --> 368.54] Apparently the rebate is already expiring
182
- [368.54 --> 371.54] Hence the price jump by retailers
183
- [371.54 --> 372.54] Oh
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- [372.54 --> 373.54] It was that fast
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- [373.54 --> 377.54] Yeah well see this is something that is kind of not public knowledge
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- [377.54 --> 378.54] This is more
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- [378.54 --> 381.54] And I'm sure I'm over like the statute of limitations
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- [381.54 --> 384.54] For my old job as a product manager
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- [384.54 --> 386.54] But it is
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- [386.54 --> 390.54] It is pretty tight
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- [390.54 --> 392.54] To be an AMD partner
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- [392.54 --> 393.54] Mm-hmm
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- [393.54 --> 396.54] I've gotten a lot of feedback in the industry over the years
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- [396.54 --> 400.54] Being an Nvidia add-in card partner
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- [400.54 --> 401.54] I think they call them AIBs
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- [401.54 --> 403.54] And I think AMD calls them AICs
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- [403.54 --> 405.54] Add-in card versus add-in board
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- [405.54 --> 406.54] Right
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- [406.54 --> 409.54] Being an Nvidia partner versus an AMD partner
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- [409.54 --> 411.54] Is supposedly a lot better
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- [411.54 --> 413.54] Now XFX
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- [413.54 --> 414.54] You guys probably remember this
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- [414.54 --> 415.54] Yeah
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- [415.54 --> 416.54] When did they jump ship?
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- [416.54 --> 418.54] What was AMD?
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- [418.54 --> 419.54] Yeah
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- [419.54 --> 420.54] Like
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- [420.54 --> 421.54] Wasn't it like 4000 series?
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- [421.54 --> 422.54] Like 6,000
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- [422.54 --> 423.54] Oh sorry
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- [423.54 --> 424.54] 6000 series AICs
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- [424.54 --> 425.54] Oh no it was 4000 series
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- [425.54 --> 426.54] I think you're right
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- [426.54 --> 427.54] So it was like
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- [427.54 --> 429.54] So that was when AMD looked
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- [429.54 --> 431.54] Because they were competing against
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- [431.54 --> 435.54] Was that the 480 generation?
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- [435.54 --> 436.54] Or had they just
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- [436.54 --> 438.54] They just hadn't refreshed in forever?
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- [438.54 --> 439.54] They just hadn't refreshed in forever?
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- [439.54 --> 440.54] Basically
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- [440.54 --> 442.54] They turned tail on Nvidia
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- [442.54 --> 444.54] And they went to AMD
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- [444.54 --> 445.54] And
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- [445.54 --> 447.54] My understanding is that
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- [447.54 --> 449.54] It's been pretty rough over there
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- [449.54 --> 452.54] Is all I can really say
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- [452.54 --> 454.54] But what are your guys' thoughts
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- [454.54 --> 458.54] On the pricing of Vega 64 in particular
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- [458.54 --> 459.54] It looks like here
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- [459.54 --> 461.54] Having effectively been increased?
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- [461.54 --> 466.54] I think it's only going to be beneficial for those that are using the compute performance honestly
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- [466.54 --> 467.54] Not as a gaming card
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- [467.54 --> 468.54] Right
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- [468.54 --> 469.54] Because at that point it makes no sense
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- [469.54 --> 472.54] Now you're talking 1080ti pricing which dominates it in games
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- [473.54 --> 476.54] But at the exact same time
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- [476.54 --> 477.54] Not in terms of making sense
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- [477.54 --> 482.54] But AMD right now has a very aggressive very dedicated fan base
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- [482.54 --> 483.54] That's true
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- [483.54 --> 485.54] So it might not even matter
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- [485.54 --> 487.54] My concern with this though was that
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- [487.54 --> 491.54] That fan base is usually though attached to the performance per dollar aspect of being an AMD fan
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- [491.54 --> 492.54] And that's not here
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- [492.54 --> 496.54] Yeah but AMD has put a lot of work into making it a rebellious stance
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- [496.54 --> 499.54] Instead of just necessarily a performance per dollar
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- [499.54 --> 501.54] Because they were definitely performance per dollar
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- [501.54 --> 505.54] Like with the 3000 series Intel processors
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- [505.54 --> 508.54] And like a couple generations back
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- [508.54 --> 510.54] With like 200 series AMD graphics cards
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- [510.54 --> 512.54] But more recently I feel like they've been shifting it
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- [512.54 --> 515.54] I think the bigger question here
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- [515.54 --> 516.54] You can totally be right though
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- [516.54 --> 517.54] I think the bigger question here
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- [517.54 --> 519.54] The one that affects our audience
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- [519.54 --> 521.54] And the one that affects us as reviewers more
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- [521.54 --> 524.54] Is this artificial rebate
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- [524.54 --> 526.54] That's only valid for
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- [526.54 --> 528.54] I mean the card only launched what a week ago?
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- [528.54 --> 532.54] So a rebate that they're putting on the card for a week
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- [532.54 --> 536.54] To hit a price that isn't sustainable
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- [536.54 --> 539.54] That affects your conclusion about the card and yours
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- [539.54 --> 540.54] Absolutely
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- [540.54 --> 542.54] And it's not like especially as YouTubers
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- [542.54 --> 545.54] It's not like we can go back and edit our article
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- [545.54 --> 548.54] Be like yeah the price to performance sucks donkey balls now
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- [548.54 --> 550.54] And not to flatter ourselves
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- [550.54 --> 552.54] But that's where a lot of research is happening right now
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- [552.54 --> 555.54] Is YouTube especially for people that are getting new into computers
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- [555.54 --> 559.54] And might not think to check a whole bunch of different sites
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- [559.54 --> 561.54] Like written sites that can be updated
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- [561.54 --> 562.54] Like Gamers Nexus guy
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- [562.54 --> 563.54] We just talked about him
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- [563.54 --> 565.54] He might say in his video
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- [565.54 --> 567.54] Pricing and stuff is on our website
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- [567.54 --> 568.54] I've seen him say that before
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- [568.54 --> 569.54] So that they can update it
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- [569.54 --> 570.54] And that's cool
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- [570.54 --> 571.54] But even then
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- [574.54 --> 576.54] Yeah like a budget graphics card
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- [576.54 --> 577.54] Where they're going like
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- [582.54 --> 584.54] And then if we
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- [584.54 --> 585.54] If our conclusion is
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- [587.54 --> 589.54] For price for the most up to date pricing on Amazon
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- [589.54 --> 590.54] I knew it I'm stupid
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- [590.54 --> 591.54] But we say
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- [591.54 --> 594.54] Yeah AMD's positioned this card really well
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- [594.54 --> 596.54] It's performance looks great
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- [596.54 --> 597.54] And the value is great
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- [598.54 --> 601.54] If it's 80 or 100 dollars more expensive
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- [601.54 --> 602.54] I feel like what they've done is
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- [602.54 --> 605.54] They've made Nvidia feel like a more compelling deal
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- [605.54 --> 607.54] Or budget at that point
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- [607.54 --> 609.54] I mean because 1070 right competes against 56
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- [609.54 --> 611.54] And 56 was beating 1070
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- [611.54 --> 612.54] Pretty much across the board
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- [612.54 --> 614.54] But now you increase that price
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- [614.54 --> 615.54] Why would I want a 56
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- [615.54 --> 616.54] Unless I'm going compute
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- [616.54 --> 618.54] I mean if I can use the compute
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- [619.54 --> 620.54] Then yeah it dominates
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- [620.54 --> 622.54] Both of them dominate what Nvidia has to offer
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- [622.54 --> 623.54] But the question is
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- [623.54 --> 625.54] How many of these buyers are actually buying them for compute
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- [625.54 --> 627.54] Or to be a part of that rebellion nation
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- [627.54 --> 628.54] Yeah
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- [628.54 --> 632.54] Also will this affect any of the bundle stuff that AMD is putting up
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- [632.54 --> 633.54] It would have to right?
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- [633.54 --> 634.54] Yeah
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- [634.54 --> 635.54] It would have to
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- [635.54 --> 636.54] So the bundles would have to go up by 100 bucks too
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- [636.54 --> 637.54] Yeah
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- [637.54 --> 638.54] I feel like yeah the bundles would just go up
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- [638.54 --> 639.54] And I don't think anything else would change
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- [639.54 --> 641.54] I don't think the bundles are going to get any better
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- [641.54 --> 642.54] I think the bundles were a terrible LED to begin with
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- [642.54 --> 646.54] I just really don't like being screwed around with like this
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- [646.54 --> 647.54] Yeah
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- [647.54 --> 649.54] I don't like being manipulated in a way where
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- [649.54 --> 650.54] Like there's a couple things
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- [650.54 --> 651.54] And you know what?
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- [651.54 --> 653.54] It's one of those things where I'm not just going to crap on AMD for this
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- [653.54 --> 655.54] Like you and I have talked about this offline
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- [655.54 --> 656.54] I think I might have mentioned it to you
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- [656.54 --> 659.54] But I was really really displeased
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- [663.54 --> 664.54] Wow
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- [664.54 --> 665.54] For the 1080 Ti
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- [665.54 --> 667.54] Because you know what that is
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- [667.54 --> 669.54] That's Nvidia saying
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- [669.54 --> 670.54] Max?
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- [670.54 --> 672.54] Do you need some help over there?
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- [672.54 --> 673.54] Maybe
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- [673.54 --> 674.54] No
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- [674.54 --> 675.54] What are we changing?
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- [675.54 --> 676.54] I don't know
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- [676.54 --> 678.54] It looks tilted and I had to fix it
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- [678.54 --> 679.54] Okay
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- [679.54 --> 680.54] It's
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- [680.54 --> 681.54] Linus is going to focus now
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- [681.54 --> 683.54] I really would have just maybe left it
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- [683.54 --> 685.54] Also point it towards Linus a little bit more
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- [685.54 --> 687.54] That's a bit better
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- [687.54 --> 689.54] Okay, okay
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- [689.54 --> 690.54] Let's just
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- [690.54 --> 691.54] Let's not touch it anymore
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- [691.54 --> 692.54] Okay
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- [692.54 --> 694.54] Thanks Max
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- [694.54 --> 696.54] Okay, what were we talking about again?
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- [696.54 --> 697.54] You were talking about the unboxing
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- [697.54 --> 698.54] Right
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- [698.54 --> 699.54] Okay
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- [699.54 --> 700.54] So there were a couple things wrong with that
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- [700.54 --> 701.54] Number one
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- [701.54 --> 704.54] Was that Paul had already done an unboxing at the event
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- [704.54 --> 705.54] And that's nothing against Paul
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- [705.54 --> 706.54] Yeah, because why not?
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- [706.54 --> 707.54] Super cool
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- [707.54 --> 708.54] Fairplay
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- [708.54 --> 709.54] But I think they saw the traction that that sort of got
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- [709.54 --> 710.54] No problem
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- [710.54 --> 711.54] And then they came up with the idea of like
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- [711.54 --> 712.54] Oh, we better reel this in
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- [712.54 --> 713.54] And you know
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- [713.54 --> 714.54] Put an embargo on this
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- [714.54 --> 716.54] Because what they're trying to get
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- [716.54 --> 718.54] Because that effectively what they're getting
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- [718.54 --> 720.54] When they do a launch event
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- [720.54 --> 721.54] We all accept it
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- [721.54 --> 724.54] Because it gives us access to talk to the developers
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- [724.54 --> 725.54] Of the product
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- [725.54 --> 726.54] Right
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- [726.54 --> 728.54] In a way that we don't get to on just a conference call
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- [728.54 --> 730.54] It's a lot more helpful than a conference call
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- [730.54 --> 731.54] Yeah
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- [731.54 --> 734.54] So we all accept these events that they do
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- [734.54 --> 737.54] Because it's also an opportunity to network within the industry
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- [737.54 --> 738.54] Most of the time I've spent with you guys
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- [738.54 --> 740.54] It has been at industry events
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- [740.54 --> 743.54] But what's really frustrating
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- [743.54 --> 748.54] Is that NVIDIA controls the narrative at that point
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- [748.54 --> 749.54] Because any news story
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- [749.54 --> 751.54] And we have to do a news story
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- [751.54 --> 753.54] Because everybody else is going to do a news story
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- [753.54 --> 754.54] Right
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- [754.54 --> 755.54] So that's my upload that day
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- [755.54 --> 756.54] That's Jay's upload that day
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- [756.54 --> 757.54] That's Dimitri's upload that day
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- [757.54 --> 760.54] That's other content that might be more meaningful
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- [760.54 --> 764.54] Because it's not just regurgitating the same information everybody has
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- [764.54 --> 765.54] That isn't going up
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- [765.54 --> 767.54] Because we're busy traveling for a day
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- [767.54 --> 768.54] Yeah
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- [768.54 --> 769.54] Spending a day at an event
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- [769.54 --> 771.54] And then traveling back for another day
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- [771.54 --> 773.54] We just spent 1% of our year
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- [773.54 --> 775.54] On this event
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- [775.54 --> 778.54] To make the same piece of content that everybody else is making
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- [778.54 --> 779.54] For me personally
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- [779.54 --> 780.54] And there can be some
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- [780.54 --> 781.54] Okay
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- [781.54 --> 782.54] I'm not a huge fan
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- [782.54 --> 784.54] I'm not a huge fan
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- [784.54 --> 785.54] To do that
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- [785.54 --> 786.54] Because people might have different opinions
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- [786.54 --> 787.54] Or insights
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- [787.54 --> 788.54] Or ideas
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- [788.54 --> 789.54] About how something might be used
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- [789.54 --> 790.54] Blah blah blah
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- [790.54 --> 791.54] But it's a lot
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- [791.54 --> 792.54] It's a lot to put on one item
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- [792.54 --> 794.54] And when you have to do just an unboxing
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- [794.54 --> 798.54] It's pretty unlikely that you'll have a lot of unique insights
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- [798.54 --> 805.00] Well, not even that. This is kind of off topic a little bit, but then it goes as far as starting to break down the information.
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- [805.54 --> 808.98] Like, you can get this piece of information, we get this piece later, this piece tomorrow, right?
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- [809.00 --> 811.58] The pricing issue that happened with 1080 Ti, which was a huge issue.
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- [811.58 --> 812.16] That was a huge issue.
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- [812.46 --> 812.60] Yeah.
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- [812.74 --> 819.82] So what this looks like to me, because NVIDIA is effectively getting marketing out of bringing people to this event.
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- [820.04 --> 824.50] They're just regurgitating whatever was on NVIDIA's slides because that's all the information we have so far.
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- [824.50 --> 832.10] We don't have any benchmarks, like how fast is the Uber car 10,000 or whatever.
429
- [832.80 --> 836.76] So then there's that date. Let's say March 1st for the sake of argument.
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- [837.36 --> 840.74] Then March 14th would be the review embargo, typically.
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- [841.08 --> 843.06] Or, yeah, like they ever give us two weeks, right?
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- [843.28 --> 845.56] Maybe like March 8th would be the review embargo.
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- [845.70 --> 850.04] That gives us a week to get back home, test it, formulate our opinions, and go,
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- [850.16 --> 853.00] Okay, that thing we talked about a week ago, here's the real skinny.
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- [853.00 --> 857.66] Now they're putting this additional day, a few days later, where they're going,
436
- [857.76 --> 859.42] Okay, now you can publish your unboxing.
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- [859.80 --> 861.10] Here's the problem with that.
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- [861.38 --> 865.32] The unboxing contains no information that's new.
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- [865.58 --> 865.78] Yeah.
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- [866.02 --> 867.92] And especially when it's not even retail packaging.
441
- [868.26 --> 868.46] Yeah.
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- [868.62 --> 870.38] It's just a physical showcase.
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- [872.10 --> 873.02] It's just a glamour video.
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- [873.12 --> 877.74] I think they should be paying for that because effectively what they're getting is marketing.
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- [877.74 --> 885.78] So when NVIDIA sent us an embargo for an unboxing of the 1080 Ti, I basically sent them back an angry email.
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- [886.12 --> 887.24] Went, this is BS.
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- [887.58 --> 889.66] You guys are asking for free advertising.
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- [890.28 --> 890.68] No.
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- [892.06 --> 892.80] NVIDIA, no.
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- [893.28 --> 894.54] NVIDIA, no.
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- [894.58 --> 895.30] Hard no, right?
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- [895.30 --> 895.58] Yeah.
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- [895.74 --> 895.86] Yeah.
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- [896.04 --> 896.18] Yeah.
455
- [896.64 --> 901.16] So AMD went and pulled the same thing with Threadripper on the CPU side.
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- [901.56 --> 907.10] And then on the GPU side, honestly, this feels even worse in some way.
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- [907.26 --> 915.80] Because instead of asking for free marketing, what they've done is they've manipulated the conclusions of what is supposed to be an independent evaluation.
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- [915.80 --> 916.60] Yeah.
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- [917.56 --> 919.96] I mean, like you said, it's so close to the launch date.
460
- [920.68 --> 923.58] I mean, our reviews are still not even cooled off yet.
461
- [924.20 --> 924.54] Right, yeah.
462
- [924.54 --> 927.24] And now the whole budget factor of it is just wrong.
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- [928.06 --> 933.26] And, like, I'm sure one, maybe two guys will make a video about that.
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- [933.52 --> 933.80] Right.
465
- [934.34 --> 934.54] Yeah.
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- [934.62 --> 936.26] But there's only enough space for that.
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- [936.52 --> 936.68] Yeah.
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- [936.68 --> 939.34] Because, honestly, most people in the audience won't really care.
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- [940.10 --> 944.00] They won't care in terms of, like, oh, I'm going to watch all of these videos because I'm that interested.
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- [944.16 --> 944.62] You know what I mean?
471
- [944.70 --> 944.88] Nope.
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- [944.88 --> 949.02] So then it's the ROI on making one of those isn't really there for the creators.
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- [949.12 --> 950.40] So then they're probably not going to make it.
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- [950.58 --> 950.78] Yep.
475
- [951.04 --> 956.44] Is the rebate information available to the reviewers until a certain point?
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- [956.46 --> 957.54] I didn't know anything about no rebate.
477
- [957.88 --> 958.04] Yeah.
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- [958.12 --> 959.58] I didn't know anything about it.
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- [959.70 --> 962.36] And I didn't know that it was going to be expiring after a week.
480
- [962.88 --> 963.18] Yeah.
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- [963.78 --> 967.02] If they had been up front about that, then this is a totally different conversation.
482
- [967.02 --> 969.34] And that's not even...
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- [969.34 --> 973.44] It doesn't even mention the fact that they only launched with bundles to begin with anyway.
484
- [973.74 --> 973.84] Yeah.
485
- [973.84 --> 975.74] It was really hard to find a card by itself.
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- [976.12 --> 977.58] The bundles were the only thing you could find.
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- [977.62 --> 978.76] All the retailers were doing bundles.
488
- [979.24 --> 979.40] Yep.
489
- [979.46 --> 986.52] And I mean, like, if we want to keep going on about grievances with the RX Vega launch, you know, when did you get your Vega 56?
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- [989.46 --> 990.62] Friday before the launch.
491
- [990.62 --> 991.04] Yeah.
492
- [991.04 --> 994.86] So we got it Friday morning before, what was it, a Monday 6 a.m. launch?
493
- [994.98 --> 995.06] Yeah.
494
- [995.26 --> 999.10] So if anyone from AMD is watching, I'm going to break this down for you.
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- [999.72 --> 1003.02] Saturday and Sunday are both considered weekends.
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- [1003.02 --> 1011.06] And it is fairly typical for people who have a life or a family or both.
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- [1011.90 --> 1013.18] I don't know if anyone has both.
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- [1013.44 --> 1013.96] Or none.
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- [1013.96 --> 1016.80] Can you have a life and a family?
500
- [1017.62 --> 1018.22] Okay, whatever.
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- [1018.32 --> 1018.80] Not the point.
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- [1018.86 --> 1019.12] The point.
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- [1019.48 --> 1027.38] The point is that those two days are weekend days, which are generally considered the days that you spend having a life or having a family.
504
- [1027.76 --> 1028.00] Right.
505
- [1028.44 --> 1030.06] So then we have to make the choice, right?
506
- [1030.28 --> 1034.08] So I have to tell my wife and my kids last minute, like, hey, I've got to work all day Saturday.
507
- [1034.28 --> 1036.98] Oh, and by the way, I'm going to be leaving for a whole week right after that.
508
- [1037.54 --> 1039.56] You know, so I lose a whole Saturday with them.
509
- [1039.92 --> 1040.12] Yep.
510
- [1040.26 --> 1045.38] And literally that was, we just added a whole sixth workday to the week just to handle that.
511
- [1045.38 --> 1048.64] Well, you could just, you could just wait and you could, you could just publish.
512
- [1048.76 --> 1049.36] So here's the thing.
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- [1049.42 --> 1053.78] We had Vega 64 like a week before and we had the drivers and everything.
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- [1053.78 --> 1060.00] And we were told that Vega 56 was going to be coming, was going to be lifted way later.
515
- [1060.00 --> 1060.20] Right.
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- [1060.52 --> 1061.56] Like quite a bit later.
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- [1061.74 --> 1064.80] So we weren't, so we were like, we were like, yeah, everything's fine.
518
- [1064.92 --> 1067.94] And then a car literally arrived here Friday morning.
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- [1068.36 --> 1069.00] A Vega 56.
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- [1069.10 --> 1070.26] And I was like, what are we supposed to do with this?
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- [1070.26 --> 1071.98] What did they message asking to prioritize it?
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- [1072.90 --> 1073.98] Did they for you?
523
- [1074.18 --> 1074.34] Yeah.
524
- [1074.72 --> 1078.16] Oh, I don't, I think we didn't get that until like even later in the day.
525
- [1078.34 --> 1080.74] Yeah, no, the message was 56 is coming.
526
- [1081.12 --> 1082.64] Please, please prioritize it if you can.
527
- [1082.64 --> 1083.88] I got a new driver on the weekend.
528
- [1084.92 --> 1085.28] Yeah.
529
- [1085.46 --> 1086.52] No, no, you're absolutely right.
530
- [1086.62 --> 1090.84] And remember guys, this is a 6 a.m. Pacific launch time.
531
- [1091.50 --> 1092.96] So you have to be done the night before.
532
- [1092.96 --> 1097.80] So you actually have to be rendering your video by like Sunday evening.
533
- [1099.08 --> 1100.44] Because there might be errors.
534
- [1100.52 --> 1102.52] Somebody thinks you have to correct the render might not work.
535
- [1102.68 --> 1104.92] There might be edits you have to make because of a problem.
536
- [1105.26 --> 1107.80] Terran's very intimately familiar with this.
537
- [1108.78 --> 1108.98] Yeah.
538
- [1108.98 --> 1109.54] So.
539
- [1110.54 --> 1113.34] Well, it's kind of like right before the new CPU platform launches too, right?
540
- [1113.38 --> 1116.32] How many BIOS updates are there like up to the day of launch?
541
- [1116.84 --> 1118.20] I would be, it's really funny.
542
- [1118.28 --> 1122.90] People are joking in the Twitch chat about like YouTube or union or something like that.
543
- [1123.64 --> 1125.38] Here is an interesting thought.
544
- [1125.76 --> 1126.56] Oh, I'm directly.
545
- [1126.56 --> 1133.60] What if every tech guy on YouTube got together and said, no, screw your embargo.
546
- [1134.38 --> 1135.62] We'll go when we're all ready.
547
- [1136.16 --> 1137.52] I've kind of started doing that.
548
- [1138.24 --> 1140.88] Vega is the first actual embargo date I've hit in a long time.
549
- [1141.02 --> 1141.90] Threadriber I didn't hit.
550
- [1142.02 --> 1144.24] Ryzen 3, 5, and 7 I didn't hit.
551
- [1144.36 --> 1144.96] Intel I didn't hit.
552
- [1144.96 --> 1147.80] We usually go for like two, three days after everybody publishes.
553
- [1147.80 --> 1151.44] Two, three weeks sometimes because I'm tired of the situation like Linus is talking about
554
- [1151.44 --> 1153.32] and what you're talking about with last minute drivers and stuff.
555
- [1153.40 --> 1156.04] That I just wait for things to kind of settle and then I go into it.
556
- [1156.10 --> 1158.82] Start making a like review embargo alliance.
557
- [1159.38 --> 1159.80] Yeah.
558
- [1160.38 --> 1161.56] Review embargo alliance.
559
- [1161.56 --> 1168.24] Because like we had to pull in multiple people on a Saturday to come in basically because
560
- [1168.24 --> 1173.94] the video was completely done by the time we had a Vega 56 in our hand.
561
- [1173.98 --> 1174.42] By me.
562
- [1174.50 --> 1174.68] Yeah.
563
- [1174.90 --> 1175.06] Yeah.
564
- [1175.22 --> 1179.24] So Terran's over there informing us that it was indeed him that edited it all too.
565
- [1179.38 --> 1179.52] Yeah.
566
- [1179.66 --> 1181.86] So now he has like that didn't get to go anywhere.
567
- [1182.40 --> 1185.46] I've just gotten so sick and tired of all the last minute changes and the way it actually
568
- [1185.46 --> 1190.98] changes the whole landscape that I've just decided like I'm no longer going to abide by the
569
- [1190.98 --> 1192.12] embargo dates trying to hit them.
570
- [1192.22 --> 1193.22] If I'm late, that's fine.
571
- [1193.30 --> 1195.22] Enough of my audience is willing to wait and watch it anyway.
572
- [1195.46 --> 1195.64] Yeah.
573
- [1195.74 --> 1198.68] But I'm tired of feeling like I'm just an extension of someone else's marketing team.
574
- [1199.04 --> 1200.14] So tell me this.
575
- [1201.70 --> 1202.28] Oh shoot.
576
- [1202.32 --> 1204.10] I completely lost track of what I was going to say there.
577
- [1204.46 --> 1204.92] Bloody hell.
578
- [1205.10 --> 1205.34] Sorry.
579
- [1205.40 --> 1206.10] It's been a long week.
580
- [1207.74 --> 1208.46] It has.
581
- [1208.62 --> 1210.44] Something, something, embargo.
582
- [1210.74 --> 1211.86] Something, embargo, union.
583
- [1212.50 --> 1212.90] Yeah.
584
- [1213.32 --> 1214.76] Something, something, et cetera.
585
- [1215.22 --> 1215.42] Yeah.
586
- [1215.48 --> 1215.80] Forget it.
587
- [1215.80 --> 1216.30] I got nothing.
588
- [1216.30 --> 1219.86] So basically I'm frustrated.
589
- [1220.08 --> 1220.54] It's stupid.
590
- [1220.54 --> 1222.76] And I've had enough of this crap.
591
- [1224.20 --> 1226.04] Oh, now I'm really frustrated.
592
- [1226.18 --> 1229.20] It was like a, it was like a great discussion thing.
593
- [1229.28 --> 1230.08] I was really looking forward to what you guys were going to say.
594
- [1230.08 --> 1233.14] To talk about something very temporarily while you can try to think about that.
595
- [1233.24 --> 1236.98] Do you want to talk about what the, the, the premise or the rules were for the Scrappy
596
- [1236.98 --> 1237.22] Yard Wars?
597
- [1237.30 --> 1237.48] Yeah.
598
- [1237.56 --> 1237.98] Go ahead.
599
- [1238.26 --> 1238.64] Go ahead.
600
- [1238.68 --> 1238.80] Hit it.
601
- [1238.80 --> 1242.76] So for this Scrappy Yard Wars, the idea was instead of starting at the office and working
602
- [1242.76 --> 1246.14] out of the office the entire time like we have in the past, we had two teams.
603
- [1246.24 --> 1247.14] Should we say what the teams were?
604
- [1247.26 --> 1247.46] Yeah.
605
- [1247.60 --> 1247.76] Absolutely.
606
- [1248.02 --> 1248.74] That's already public.
607
- [1248.74 --> 1249.74] Oh, okay.
608
- [1249.80 --> 1249.96] Yeah.
609
- [1250.02 --> 1250.92] So, oh, right.
610
- [1250.96 --> 1251.60] That makes sense.
611
- [1251.60 --> 1253.70] So it was myself and Jay and Linus and Dimitri.
612
- [1253.94 --> 1258.56] And we started out actually in the city of Vancouver, which is about an hour from here.
613
- [1258.56 --> 1261.74] And we had a fair amount of cash.
614
- [1262.04 --> 1263.62] I'm not going to say how much, but a fair amount of cash.
615
- [1263.68 --> 1267.26] But some of that cash had to be allocated to food and water.
616
- [1268.04 --> 1269.32] You had no budget for food.
617
- [1269.40 --> 1270.60] You couldn't just buy food.
618
- [1270.86 --> 1273.70] Normally in Scrappy Yard Wars, you could buy whatever food you wanted while you were going
619
- [1273.70 --> 1274.48] with your own money.
620
- [1274.98 --> 1275.70] But this time.
621
- [1275.90 --> 1276.76] To be fair, it didn't have to.
622
- [1276.90 --> 1277.32] It's just.
623
- [1277.74 --> 1279.06] It's allocated from your budget.
624
- [1279.28 --> 1279.42] Yeah.
625
- [1279.42 --> 1280.34] Anything you spent.
626
- [1280.88 --> 1283.00] Anything you needed to do at the day had to come out of that budget.
627
- [1283.10 --> 1285.92] If you wanted to bike somewhere, you'd have to buy or rent a bike.
628
- [1286.04 --> 1290.26] If you wanted to transit somewhere further out, you'd have to get a bus pass or a transit
629
- [1290.26 --> 1293.00] pass of some sort or get a cab or whatever.
630
- [1293.78 --> 1294.36] So, yeah.
631
- [1294.42 --> 1296.56] It was a very interesting setup.
632
- [1296.80 --> 1301.54] Both teams decided to go at it in certain ways that I'm not going to describe because
633
- [1301.54 --> 1303.06] I'm worried about going too deeply into it.
634
- [1303.06 --> 1303.88] But, yeah.
635
- [1303.96 --> 1304.92] It was very interesting.
636
- [1305.06 --> 1306.78] Quite a bit different from any other Scrapyard Wars.
637
- [1306.78 --> 1307.66] I took a drink from an empty cup.
638
- [1309.68 --> 1313.08] I'm just laughing at all the GetJ water comments because I took a drink from an empty cup.
639
- [1313.14 --> 1313.52] I was like, oh.
640
- [1316.10 --> 1318.82] I'm trying to make up for all the water that, you know, we needed.
641
- [1319.16 --> 1319.52] Yes.
642
- [1319.82 --> 1320.12] Yeah.
643
- [1320.36 --> 1321.38] Don't spoil it.
644
- [1322.06 --> 1322.96] Water doesn't spoil.
645
- [1324.14 --> 1324.80] Spoil what?
646
- [1325.00 --> 1325.80] No, the sp...
647
- [1325.80 --> 1327.08] Don't say it.
648
- [1327.08 --> 1327.46] You figured out what?
649
- [1327.46 --> 1328.00] Don't say it.
650
- [1328.00 --> 1328.40] Yeah.
651
- [1328.62 --> 1332.48] I never figured out what it was, but I had really just wanted to talk a little bit more about
652
- [1332.48 --> 1336.48] sort of how they're handling it and how it's...
653
- [1337.56 --> 1339.12] We've had to do it before.
654
- [1339.34 --> 1340.64] We've had to delay videos.
655
- [1340.80 --> 1345.82] We've missed embargoes, which are fairly important, but we've found not the most important thing.
656
- [1345.90 --> 1348.82] And sometimes it helps if there does happen to be a change.
657
- [1348.96 --> 1349.16] Yeah.
658
- [1349.26 --> 1352.24] Because then we can talk about the change and that one video will pick up traction.
659
- [1352.24 --> 1359.58] But it's usually only us or only Jay or only Dimitri or only one type of creator that's
660
- [1359.58 --> 1361.48] making that one delayed video.
661
- [1361.48 --> 1364.80] I do wonder what the fallout would be.
662
- [1364.86 --> 1369.30] Not really fallout, but what would the impact be if suddenly the entire tech scene on YouTube
663
- [1369.30 --> 1371.48] just said, no, we're not going to hit your embargo.
664
- [1372.42 --> 1375.96] We all collectively say, we'll wait two weeks to see where things land.
665
- [1376.44 --> 1378.62] Because we'd still be in that window of AMD pulling this.
666
- [1378.78 --> 1379.96] Or would they just postpone this?
667
- [1380.58 --> 1381.48] I don't know.
668
- [1381.48 --> 1382.94] I don't know how they'd react.
669
- [1383.00 --> 1384.76] Because I told them, I think you guys should push it.
670
- [1386.20 --> 1388.18] I think they might think initially.
671
- [1388.50 --> 1389.82] Especially something like NVIDIA, right?
672
- [1389.82 --> 1391.74] They might think that there's not going to be any impact whatsoever.
673
- [1392.24 --> 1394.86] But that'd be an interesting metric to see how it actually plays out.
674
- [1394.94 --> 1397.04] I don't think NVIDIA gives two craps what any of us think.
675
- [1397.34 --> 1397.88] I think you're right.
676
- [1397.96 --> 1398.80] To be perfectly honest.
677
- [1399.66 --> 1402.64] It's really funny because I think you take this somewhat too.
678
- [1402.78 --> 1406.18] But we take flack all the time for being in NVIDIA's pocket or whatever else.
679
- [1406.18 --> 1406.48] Oh, somewhat?
680
- [1406.82 --> 1407.46] I think somewhat?
681
- [1407.60 --> 1407.82] Yeah.
682
- [1407.92 --> 1408.34] Yeah, no.
683
- [1408.70 --> 1410.30] I don't know if you get it as bad as we do.
684
- [1410.50 --> 1412.18] Wensho is brought to you by NVIDIA.
685
- [1412.96 --> 1413.68] Yeah, well.
686
- [1413.78 --> 1414.66] According to the audience, anyway.
687
- [1414.66 --> 1421.78] So, like, it's one of those things where, like, you know, I've butted heads with them a fair number of times.
688
- [1422.48 --> 1422.84] Recently.
689
- [1423.56 --> 1427.88] More often than I, like, go to a nice dinner and, you know, talk shop.
690
- [1429.10 --> 1432.82] It's been pretty tough lately, actually.
691
- [1433.96 --> 1434.44] All right.
692
- [1434.70 --> 1436.48] So let's have a look at...
693
- [1436.48 --> 1437.68] We didn't get Titan XP.
694
- [1438.64 --> 1439.12] Neither did I.
695
- [1439.42 --> 1440.30] Until, like, now?
696
- [1440.54 --> 1441.44] Yeah, we have one now.
697
- [1441.58 --> 1441.82] Yeah.
698
- [1442.02 --> 1443.58] Because they were like, oh, what, you guys don't have one?
699
- [1444.06 --> 1444.70] I was like, no?
700
- [1444.88 --> 1446.54] I asked for one for Terry Crews and they said no.
701
- [1447.22 --> 1447.54] Seriously?
702
- [1447.54 --> 1447.78] What?
703
- [1448.04 --> 1453.18] They turned me down until I made that video, like, talking crap about Titan XP, which would have gone out regardless.
704
- [1453.38 --> 1457.36] Because I think it's a really stupid card based on, like, the way they're locking down the Kuda cores.
705
- [1457.56 --> 1459.78] And they're unlocking it multiple times in the same generation.
706
- [1460.58 --> 1463.94] But it was after that that they were like, two of them just showed up.
707
- [1464.62 --> 1464.98] Right.
708
- [1465.14 --> 1465.34] Right?
709
- [1465.46 --> 1466.82] So they hand-delivered them.
710
- [1468.04 --> 1468.36] Yeah.
711
- [1468.54 --> 1469.50] I was like, they're not even for me.
712
- [1469.56 --> 1470.22] I don't even care.
713
- [1470.46 --> 1470.68] Right?
714
- [1470.74 --> 1471.52] They're not for me.
715
- [1471.52 --> 1476.52] And, like, this is a stupid thing on both the vendor side and the audience side.
716
- [1477.12 --> 1481.98] Do you guys honestly think that Jay can be bought with a graphics card?
717
- [1482.14 --> 1483.14] That doesn't pay my lease.
718
- [1484.18 --> 1486.50] That doesn't pay for my employee, my insurance.
719
- [1486.84 --> 1489.24] Do you need more graphics cards, Jay?
720
- [1489.74 --> 1490.96] It's pretty obvious I don't sell them.
721
- [1491.16 --> 1492.76] I mean, you can see the shop, you know.
722
- [1493.26 --> 1495.36] No, they do not run my business.
723
- [1495.36 --> 1497.62] In fact, I started buying more stuff than ever now.
724
- [1498.26 --> 1498.66] I've noticed that.
725
- [1498.72 --> 1501.34] You were talking about buying lots of stuff yourself.
726
- [1502.82 --> 1503.82] It's just easier.
727
- [1504.70 --> 1505.58] And it's not...
728
- [1505.58 --> 1506.02] You can get it right away.
729
- [1506.16 --> 1506.72] You don't have to...
730
- [1506.72 --> 1506.86] Yeah.
731
- [1507.32 --> 1507.56] Yep.
732
- [1508.36 --> 1512.06] And now with your Scrapyard War experience, you can buy more stuff, too.
733
- [1512.52 --> 1514.40] With someone else's money, which is great.
734
- [1514.40 --> 1522.46] Speaking of someone else's money, the show today is brought to you by Cable Mod.
735
- [1522.88 --> 1523.28] Yeah.
736
- [1524.30 --> 1525.82] We've got some stuff over there.
737
- [1525.82 --> 1526.18] Yeah.
738
- [1526.38 --> 1526.82] Okay.
739
- [1527.58 --> 1534.02] So Cable Mod now has sleeving for AIOs.
740
- [1534.24 --> 1534.96] Have you guys seen this?
741
- [1535.06 --> 1535.80] Have you heard about this?
742
- [1535.88 --> 1535.98] Yeah.
743
- [1536.00 --> 1536.50] Oh, okay.
744
- [1536.50 --> 1538.26] I did a great review that was very well received.
745
- [1538.44 --> 1538.96] Oh, okay.
746
- [1539.18 --> 1539.88] I didn't watch it.
747
- [1540.12 --> 1540.54] I know you didn't.
748
- [1540.58 --> 1541.34] I didn't watch it either.
749
- [1541.34 --> 1548.46] So basically, you buy your AIO, and then with no actual modification required, you guys
750
- [1548.46 --> 1550.34] can go watch Jay's video, because we didn't review them.
751
- [1551.36 --> 1552.04] I'm trying to finger traps.
752
- [1552.26 --> 1552.86] But there you go.
753
- [1552.96 --> 1556.52] You just kind of unfold it, and then you don't have to take off the tubing or anything like
754
- [1556.52 --> 1556.66] that.
755
- [1556.70 --> 1562.40] You just wrap it around, and you end up with that nice sleeved look on your AIO cooler tubes,
756
- [1562.40 --> 1565.74] and matches your cabling, assuming you went and bought Cable Mod cabling.
757
- [1566.38 --> 1568.18] And that's pretty much it.
758
- [1568.22 --> 1569.90] They've got little finishing pieces for the end.
759
- [1569.90 --> 1571.46] So they look nice and tidy.
760
- [1572.34 --> 1574.16] And what else can I really say about it?
761
- [1574.18 --> 1575.46] I mean, it's a pretty simple idea.
762
- [1575.58 --> 1576.54] It just took someone to do it.
763
- [1576.68 --> 1579.12] The colors do specifically match their cable sleeving.
764
- [1579.68 --> 1580.84] So they're perfectly matched for that.
765
- [1581.02 --> 1582.88] So they've got lots and lots of different colors.
766
- [1582.96 --> 1584.16] You guys can go check them out.
767
- [1584.24 --> 1585.02] Oh, that's cool.
768
- [1585.14 --> 1588.24] They also just launched their sleeving kits on Amazon.
769
- [1588.64 --> 1591.08] So we've got a link in the video description for that.
770
- [1591.08 --> 1593.34] But basically, it's a...
771
- [1593.34 --> 1594.08] Hold on a second.
772
- [1594.80 --> 1596.88] Can I even figure out how to do this on a Mac?
773
- [1597.78 --> 1598.44] Holy crap.
774
- [1598.44 --> 1598.80] What are you trying to do?
775
- [1598.80 --> 1600.30] You can't right click.
776
- [1600.78 --> 1601.82] It's two finger click.
777
- [1601.88 --> 1602.10] Copy.
778
- [1602.22 --> 1603.00] You have to like...
779
- [1603.00 --> 1603.66] Two finger tap.
780
- [1603.76 --> 1604.64] Two finger tap.
781
- [1604.94 --> 1605.74] That took me a while.
782
- [1605.74 --> 1606.82] Also, I'm not signed in.
783
- [1606.94 --> 1607.68] So forget it.
784
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785
- [1609.16 --> 1609.70] I'll get it.
786
- [1610.46 --> 1611.28] All right.
787
- [1611.52 --> 1613.06] What else we got here?
788
- [1613.18 --> 1614.36] Oh, yes.
789
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790
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809
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810
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811
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812
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813
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814
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816
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817
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818
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819
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820
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821
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822
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823
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837
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838
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839
- [1725.46 --> 1726.94] Can I get more water first?
840
- [1727.20 --> 1727.88] Ed, are you watching?
841
- [1727.88 --> 1730.02] Yeah, you can get some more water.
842
- [1730.06 --> 1731.64] I will personally go get you water.
843
- [1732.84 --> 1733.26] Okay.
844
- [1733.26 --> 1733.92] He's going to go.
845
- [1734.12 --> 1735.18] No, I want Linus to do it now.
846
- [1735.22 --> 1735.70] He said he would.
847
- [1735.76 --> 1736.34] No, I'll do it.
848
- [1736.34 --> 1736.66] I'll do it.
849
- [1737.06 --> 1737.38] Okay.
850
- [1737.58 --> 1739.84] I got Linus to get up and leave his own show to get me water.
851
- [1739.96 --> 1740.64] That's a win.
852
- [1740.74 --> 1741.56] So we got the Reaper.
853
- [1742.32 --> 1743.52] We got the Mojo.
854
- [1743.52 --> 1744.44] Okay, so if you're...
855
- [1744.44 --> 1746.46] I've been informed this is Mojo, not Mojo.
856
- [1746.66 --> 1746.98] Mojo.
857
- [1747.14 --> 1747.32] Mojo.
858
- [1747.32 --> 1753.30] If you're like into spicy but not an insane amount of spicy, like you don't want your face to
859
- [1753.30 --> 1755.74] literally melt but you're into spicy, I like Mojo.
860
- [1755.74 --> 1758.84] I think people have been eating these because they're like all almost empty.
861
- [1759.16 --> 1759.30] Yeah.
862
- [1759.86 --> 1762.46] Everyone's just like, oh yeah, I'll just like eat one.
863
- [1762.46 --> 1762.82] Ghost pepper?
864
- [1762.82 --> 1763.24] No one will know this.
865
- [1763.24 --> 1763.66] That's really hot one.
866
- [1763.98 --> 1766.72] That's pretty hot and Reaper I think is even hotter.
867
- [1766.82 --> 1768.50] Yeah, Reaper is the crazy one.
868
- [1768.84 --> 1770.32] Ghost pepper is like pretty damn hot.
869
- [1770.64 --> 1771.28] Mojo is on the...
870
- [1771.28 --> 1771.96] This is less hot.
871
- [1771.96 --> 1772.64] Sorry, I can be good to.
872
- [1772.72 --> 1774.10] This is like a three.
873
- [1774.50 --> 1776.76] So it's like spicy and it'll kick.
874
- [1777.38 --> 1778.66] So the Reaper is a five.
875
- [1778.80 --> 1780.06] It like makes its own level.
876
- [1780.74 --> 1782.02] Ghost pepper is a four.
877
- [1782.34 --> 1783.88] Okay, this one's just delicious.
878
- [1783.88 --> 1787.26] If you guys just want something tasty before you melt your taste buds off.
879
- [1787.54 --> 1787.86] What is this?
880
- [1787.94 --> 1788.20] Mojo.
881
- [1788.46 --> 1789.56] This is only a one.
882
- [1790.16 --> 1791.06] So if you want to try a piece.
883
- [1791.62 --> 1792.56] So Savage Jerky.
884
- [1792.82 --> 1795.72] They're jerky's made with the best ingredients without nitrates or preservatives.
885
- [1795.86 --> 1798.26] The goal was to create a snack that was full of flavor and spice.
886
- [1798.38 --> 1799.20] That's not bad for you.
887
- [1799.58 --> 1801.12] They've got 13 different flavors.
888
- [1801.42 --> 1805.98] My personal favorites are Mojo as well as the Maple Buffalo Bacon.
889
- [1805.98 --> 1811.16] And some of the taste bud melty ones are actually pretty darn good.
890
- [1811.24 --> 1817.32] They've got jerky's made of ghost pepper as well as Carolina Reapers.
891
- [1817.70 --> 1824.04] And you can use offer code LTT to save 10% over at savagejerky.com.
892
- [1824.04 --> 1826.28] All right, I will go get you some water.
893
- [1826.36 --> 1826.70] Thank you, sir.
894
- [1826.86 --> 1829.28] And you go ahead and pick one of those if you want.
895
- [1829.34 --> 1831.06] I'm not going to make you do it, though, because they're...
896
- [1831.06 --> 1832.08] Like my girlfriend would die.
897
- [1832.16 --> 1833.24] Savage is right in the name.
898
- [1833.30 --> 1833.58] Oh, really?
899
- [1833.68 --> 1834.34] This is too spicy?
900
- [1834.50 --> 1837.26] Okay, you've got a giant piece in there.
901
- [1837.32 --> 1837.92] I think you'll be good.
902
- [1838.00 --> 1838.58] I love habanero.
903
- [1839.02 --> 1839.92] Yeah, I think you'll be good.
904
- [1840.34 --> 1840.50] Yeah.
905
- [1840.90 --> 1841.42] Will I be good?
906
- [1841.42 --> 1843.92] If you don't like spice, don't eat that one.
907
- [1844.06 --> 1845.46] But if you like spice, it's good.
908
- [1845.62 --> 1846.60] The Mojo one's not hot.
909
- [1847.12 --> 1847.32] No.
910
- [1847.82 --> 1848.72] The Mojo one's a one.
911
- [1848.90 --> 1850.58] It's like it's not even supposed to be hot.
912
- [1850.58 --> 1855.24] Good?
913
- [1855.38 --> 1855.52] Yeah.
914
- [1855.80 --> 1855.94] Yeah.
915
- [1856.04 --> 1856.90] Give me two minutes.
916
- [1857.00 --> 1857.50] I'll be sweating.
917
- [1859.66 --> 1861.92] Yeah, the Reaper's a bit of a kick.
918
- [1862.10 --> 1863.02] That one kind of sucks.
919
- [1863.22 --> 1863.86] That's a five.
920
- [1864.00 --> 1866.32] Sucks in terms of like it hurts.
921
- [1866.48 --> 1867.86] It tastes good, to be fair.
922
- [1868.62 --> 1870.00] Don't they don't like it?
923
- [1870.00 --> 1871.92] It's like the powder.
924
- [1872.12 --> 1873.18] Like sometimes you breathe the powder.
925
- [1873.58 --> 1873.70] Yeah.
926
- [1873.98 --> 1875.32] But no, flavor's really good.
927
- [1875.40 --> 1876.14] Because they try to...
928
- [1876.14 --> 1879.58] They go pretty hard with the flavor stuff, which I like for beef jerky.
929
- [1879.58 --> 1881.68] I think that's one of the reasons why I like Mojo so much.
930
- [1882.06 --> 1882.90] I'm cool with hot.
931
- [1884.74 --> 1885.06] Yeah.
932
- [1885.54 --> 1887.20] No, it's not too hot, I swear.
933
- [1888.08 --> 1889.42] I'm cool with hot if it has flavor.
934
- [1889.90 --> 1891.42] But hot for the sake of hot, there's no point.
935
- [1891.42 --> 1892.24] No, I'm the same way.
936
- [1892.34 --> 1892.48] Yeah.
937
- [1892.72 --> 1895.10] I can deal with a fair amount of spice, but I only do it because I like the taste.
938
- [1895.10 --> 1897.14] And it's not even like water helps with habanero.
939
- [1897.30 --> 1897.80] I'm just thirsty.
940
- [1897.96 --> 1898.12] Yeah.
941
- [1898.74 --> 1899.12] All right.
942
- [1899.20 --> 1900.78] I'm going to drop a bomb on you guys.
943
- [1900.96 --> 1904.14] This was originally posted by Numlock21 on the forum.
944
- [1904.28 --> 1906.76] The original article here is from videocards.com.
945
- [1906.84 --> 1907.98] So I take it with a grain of salt.
946
- [1907.98 --> 1918.96] So, Intel claims the Core i7 8700K will be 11% faster than the 7700K.
947
- [1919.60 --> 1921.64] And here's what I want to know.
948
- [1922.22 --> 1924.04] Because this is crazy.
949
- [1924.04 --> 1928.82] Well, it is, to be fair, a whole entire 1% higher than I would have guessed.
950
- [1929.04 --> 1930.30] This is what I want to know.
951
- [1930.30 --> 1935.50] Who needed Intel to claim this to know that this was coming?
952
- [1935.60 --> 1935.84] Yeah.
953
- [1936.86 --> 1943.64] I mean, this is literally what we've been complaining about.
954
- [1943.84 --> 1945.04] Does this mean that they're not scared?
955
- [1946.44 --> 1946.84] Okay.
956
- [1946.96 --> 1947.60] So here's the thing.
957
- [1947.72 --> 1948.38] So there's two things.
958
- [1948.46 --> 1953.68] First of all, the rumors are also that Coffee Lake is going to be available in six core configurations.
959
- [1953.68 --> 1955.52] Which would legit be good.
960
- [1955.84 --> 1956.12] Okay.
961
- [1956.54 --> 1957.76] So if they're 10...
962
- [1957.76 --> 1959.24] So they're keeping their 10% and adding cores.
963
- [1959.44 --> 1968.68] If they're 10% faster in terms of IPC and they're adding 50% more cores, then I'm looking at this going...
964
- [1970.04 --> 1970.96] That's a good jump.
965
- [1971.08 --> 1975.78] Thank you for what should have happened two years ago, but okay.
966
- [1976.12 --> 1976.38] Yeah.
967
- [1977.24 --> 1977.58] Fine.
968
- [1978.36 --> 1978.98] Thank you.
969
- [1979.42 --> 1987.96] I mean, I still appreciate them doing something good, even if it was a long time coming and should have happened before.
970
- [1988.16 --> 1990.20] So the 8700K is rumored to be the six core.
971
- [1990.48 --> 1990.84] Excuse me.
972
- [1990.84 --> 1996.84] It's supposed to be six core, 12 thread, with a single threaded boost over the 7700K of about 11%.
973
- [1997.48 --> 2000.16] Yet there'll still be an i5 on X299 at that time.
974
- [2002.68 --> 2004.60] Because X299s aren't going to be refreshed by then.
975
- [2004.60 --> 2005.90] So, yeah.
976
- [2006.04 --> 2008.26] I mean, this is yet another reason.
977
- [2008.40 --> 2009.42] I mean, you know...
978
- [2009.42 --> 2009.68] Okay.
979
- [2010.04 --> 2011.08] You know my feelings.
980
- [2011.36 --> 2015.44] I know your feelings on the 7740 and the 7640.
981
- [2015.78 --> 2019.02] Those two SKUs make no sense at all.
982
- [2019.12 --> 2019.24] Yep.
983
- [2019.46 --> 2022.58] And when Coffee Lake launches, those SKUs...
984
- [2022.58 --> 2028.62] Remember, the whole point of the high-end desktop platform is supposed to be mucho memory bandwidth,
985
- [2029.40 --> 2033.16] mucho PCIe lanes, and mucho processing cores.
986
- [2033.16 --> 2034.30] And moho jerky.
987
- [2034.60 --> 2037.92] Those chips have none of those things.
988
- [2038.52 --> 2043.16] They have beefed up power delivery, so theoretically you can overclock them a little higher.
989
- [2043.24 --> 2044.02] They're still dual core.
990
- [2044.14 --> 2048.42] They still have the mainstream platform number of PCIe lanes, and they're still quad core processors.
991
- [2048.42 --> 2051.14] And they're pulling significantly more power than their mainstream counterparts.
992
- [2051.14 --> 2055.92] And now, compared to the mainstream platform that's coming...
993
- [2055.92 --> 2056.58] Oh, I don't know.
994
- [2056.66 --> 2056.80] What?
995
- [2057.72 --> 2059.24] It's rumored to be launching what?
996
- [2059.70 --> 2067.46] So it would be three months later, if the rumors are true, it will be two generations behind architecturally.
997
- [2067.82 --> 2068.32] Two!
998
- [2068.32 --> 2068.74] Yeah.
999
- [2068.74 --> 2074.72] And that might only be 10% per generation, or 8% or whatever.
1000
- [2074.72 --> 2078.32] But still, two generations times 10% is not complicated, Matt.
1001
- [2078.38 --> 2079.18] That's 20%.
1002
- [2079.18 --> 2079.50] Yeah.
1003
- [2079.50 --> 2082.82] So if you had a 5 gigahertz processor, let's say you're an overclocker...
1004
- [2082.82 --> 2083.82] It's actually better than that.
1005
- [2083.82 --> 2085.90] It's 10% on top of 10%.
1006
- [2085.90 --> 2086.44] That's right.
1007
- [2086.78 --> 2088.64] So let's say you're an overclocker.
1008
- [2088.90 --> 2090.18] You get to 5 gigahertz.
1009
- [2090.68 --> 2098.54] We're talking about now, on this high-end platform, you would be equivalent to the mainstream's performance at what?
1010
- [2098.60 --> 2099.48] Like 4 gigahertz?
1011
- [2099.66 --> 2099.90] Right.
1012
- [2099.90 --> 2104.04] Well, that's not good!
1013
- [2105.80 --> 2108.90] Why did I just go spend $350 on a motherboard?
1014
- [2109.12 --> 2109.36] Intel?
1015
- [2110.10 --> 2114.70] Because they're hoping you're going to just step forward, or future compatibility with more expensive bigger.
1016
- [2115.04 --> 2119.02] But why would you still spend, you know, almost $400 on that CPU if you're getting the i7?
1017
- [2119.02 --> 2119.56] That's the thing.
1018
- [2119.70 --> 2123.26] It's like, I get that argument if it's like a Pentium dual core or something.
1019
- [2123.38 --> 2125.50] And that's devil's advocate argument as far as I'm concerned.
1020
- [2125.60 --> 2125.72] Right?
1021
- [2126.38 --> 2128.94] Like, I've seen that before.
1022
- [2128.94 --> 2131.42] Like Pentium Anniversary Edition, where we're talking $100 chip.
1023
- [2131.56 --> 2131.74] Right.
1024
- [2131.98 --> 2134.78] You buy something to get running today.
1025
- [2135.00 --> 2136.98] You hope it doesn't drop in value too much.
1026
- [2137.06 --> 2137.26] You flip.
1027
- [2137.32 --> 2141.08] Because a $100 CPU, if it drops in value 20%, we're talking $20.
1028
- [2141.48 --> 2141.74] Yeah.
1029
- [2142.34 --> 2142.58] Right?
1030
- [2142.80 --> 2149.08] And if you've managed to save up your $400 or $500 or whatever you need for an 8-core processor by that point,
1031
- [2149.66 --> 2152.14] then surely the $20 is not that big of a deal.
1032
- [2152.24 --> 2153.12] Some time has passed.
1033
- [2153.48 --> 2154.46] I get that logic.
1034
- [2154.46 --> 2159.56] But here we're talking about a $300 plus processor that you're buying as a placeholder.
1035
- [2160.10 --> 2160.82] Doesn't make sense.
1036
- [2160.88 --> 2163.80] Do you guys buy a $300 processor as a placeholder in the socket?
1037
- [2164.68 --> 2167.34] I don't really buy processors as placeholders.
1038
- [2168.22 --> 2168.74] Right.
1039
- [2169.16 --> 2171.56] And we never recommend that.
1040
- [2171.66 --> 2171.88] No.
1041
- [2172.54 --> 2174.02] Do you guys ever recommend that?
1042
- [2174.36 --> 2174.52] No.
1043
- [2174.52 --> 2176.92] Buy hardware that isn't what you actually need?
1044
- [2176.92 --> 2179.62] And then buy something else later?
1045
- [2180.12 --> 2180.24] Yeah.
1046
- [2180.38 --> 2180.42] No.
1047
- [2180.56 --> 2184.58] Unless you're a crazy Craigslist or use site junkie.
1048
- [2185.38 --> 2188.20] Because you've done this kind of stuff, but you're constantly flipping things.
1049
- [2188.30 --> 2191.92] So you were never planning on holding it for more than possibly even two weeks.
1050
- [2192.12 --> 2194.30] But even then, you're usually not buying new anyway.
1051
- [2194.44 --> 2194.74] That's right.
1052
- [2194.84 --> 2194.86] No.
1053
- [2195.02 --> 2195.42] Yeah.
1054
- [2195.62 --> 2195.90] Exactly.
1055
- [2196.24 --> 2197.40] So it's not even applicable.
1056
- [2197.40 --> 2208.30] So I could see buying a 7740 from some idiot who bought it, realized that this was really stupid, and then is like, oh crap, this thing isn't worth much.
1057
- [2208.42 --> 2209.98] I guess I'll just take a bath on it.
1058
- [2210.36 --> 2211.78] I could buy from that guy.
1059
- [2211.92 --> 2212.10] Yeah.
1060
- [2212.36 --> 2219.68] And then I do buy myself a few months to save up, and I can probably flip it for pretty close to what I paid, but I wouldn't buy something like that new.
1061
- [2220.00 --> 2220.22] No.
1062
- [2220.22 --> 2225.34] That's why I threw mine in an HTPC, just because I was like, what else am I going to do with this?
1063
- [2225.40 --> 2229.86] Oh, I'll take the chip that doesn't make sense and put it in a form factor that doesn't make sense for an X299 platform to begin with.
1064
- [2230.00 --> 2231.32] So that my whole video was based on that.
1065
- [2233.22 --> 2235.94] I just figured we'd put nonsense on top of nonsense.
1066
- [2236.80 --> 2238.68] And then I called it my VR rig on top of that.
1067
- [2238.82 --> 2239.30] There you go.
1068
- [2239.66 --> 2240.36] Oh my gosh.
1069
- [2240.36 --> 2241.88] It's got a VR capable sticker.
1070
- [2242.12 --> 2242.54] Put it on.
1071
- [2243.46 --> 2248.00] We've got to get, as reviewers, we need to get our own VR capable stickers and just start putting them on every single...
1072
- [2248.00 --> 2249.50] It's a watermark on the video channel.
1073
- [2249.50 --> 2250.38] Oh, perfect.
1074
- [2250.48 --> 2250.88] VR ready.
1075
- [2250.98 --> 2252.18] This video is VR ready.
1076
- [2252.24 --> 2252.54] Yes.
1077
- [2252.84 --> 2253.50] But it's really not.
1078
- [2253.64 --> 2255.46] Well, you could technically if you put it in theater mode.
1079
- [2255.54 --> 2255.92] Oh, true.
1080
- [2256.06 --> 2257.16] Yeah, just watch it in VR theater.
1081
- [2257.34 --> 2257.64] Yes.
1082
- [2258.24 --> 2258.80] Figured out.
1083
- [2259.12 --> 2259.68] VR ready.
1084
- [2260.28 --> 2261.10] This is VR ready.
1085
- [2262.30 --> 2263.42] Life is VR ready.
1086
- [2263.62 --> 2263.88] Oh.
1087
- [2264.70 --> 2265.06] Right?
1088
- [2265.34 --> 2270.64] Yeah, because you could buy an Oculus or anything else in life, which means that it's VR ready.
1089
- [2270.64 --> 2273.28] I was going with Sony VR or whatever it is.
1090
- [2273.40 --> 2273.86] Oh, yeah.
1091
- [2274.16 --> 2274.84] Also that.
1092
- [2276.92 --> 2277.36] What?
1093
- [2278.42 --> 2278.86] Yeah.
1094
- [2278.86 --> 2278.94] Yeah.
1095
- [2279.38 --> 2279.78] Okay.
1096
- [2280.14 --> 2282.70] So the original article here is from Ars Technica.
1097
- [2282.88 --> 2286.34] I've been completely out of the loop this week.
1098
- [2286.88 --> 2287.24] So I had no idea.
1099
- [2287.24 --> 2288.06] Well, this isn't that crazy.
1100
- [2288.78 --> 2290.44] I can kind of explain why.
1101
- [2290.66 --> 2293.86] So Apple is investing a huge amount.
1102
- [2294.86 --> 2297.58] It says they're going all in, but Apple has a lot of money.
1103
- [2297.66 --> 2299.70] Yeah, billion dollars is not all in with Apple.
1104
- [2299.84 --> 2300.50] So not at all.
1105
- [2300.58 --> 2300.94] Just saying.
1106
- [2300.94 --> 2304.42] Um, but they're, they're putting a billion dollar budget to Apple shows.
1107
- [2304.42 --> 2310.24] Uh, so they're doing like the, the first original series from them was Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke.
1108
- [2310.40 --> 2312.40] And they're doing more, but this isn't that surprising.
1109
- [2313.00 --> 2315.42] Netflix is going really hardcore into original content.
1110
- [2315.42 --> 2319.70] They're going to be putting these shows on the Apple music thing.
1111
- [2319.70 --> 2321.54] So they probably need to rename that.
1112
- [2321.76 --> 2332.84] But oh, well, um, a lot of these big companies that are trying to serve video are going into original content because licensing, especially from like big movies and big shows.
1113
- [2332.84 --> 2337.52] If you want to have all of them is obscenely prohibitively expensive.
1114
- [2337.52 --> 2339.36] And this is something you and I have discussed.
1115
- [2339.58 --> 2346.48] Um, apparently there isn't a video streaming platform online, like a significant one.
1116
- [2346.58 --> 2348.42] I mean, that's losing money.
1117
- [2348.74 --> 2348.82] Yeah.
1118
- [2349.72 --> 2352.92] And you know, now that we are really digging into.
1119
- [2353.18 --> 2356.88] Well, sometimes they're parts of bigger companies and then they don't care that they're not losing money.
1120
- [2357.14 --> 2359.06] Or it's offset by some other aspect of the business.
1121
- [2359.24 --> 2359.60] Exactly.
1122
- [2359.70 --> 2359.88] Yeah.
1123
- [2359.88 --> 2373.30] But the actual video streaming division, whether we're talking YouTube, um, Amazon Prime Video, Netflix, Twitch, as far as we can tell, they're all losing money.
1124
- [2373.54 --> 2377.96] And like hearing from certain people that work at some of those companies, not all of them, but some of those companies.
1125
- [2377.96 --> 2381.98] We know people that, I think we know at least someone at pretty much all of them.
1126
- [2382.18 --> 2382.32] Yeah.
1127
- [2383.44 --> 2388.98] Which makes moves like Disney pulling all of their movies off of Netflix to have their own streaming service just really make you scratch your head.
1128
- [2388.98 --> 2393.04] I mean, I know Disney has Disney money to spend, but still no company wants to bleed money.
1129
- [2393.20 --> 2397.30] But they already have a website and they've already been streaming their own video, to be fair.
1130
- [2397.44 --> 2398.54] So they just have to scale up.
1131
- [2398.56 --> 2401.06] Yeah, but you could get their stuff in other places now.
1132
- [2401.32 --> 2403.56] Their video is going to be available only on one source.
1133
- [2403.76 --> 2405.58] So they're going to have to probably upscale anyway.
1134
- [2405.80 --> 2407.62] And that way they can control the pricing too.
1135
- [2407.74 --> 2408.62] They can decide.
1136
- [2408.62 --> 2410.58] And they can control the content that goes around it.
1137
- [2410.72 --> 2411.78] Disney cares about that a lot.
1138
- [2411.94 --> 2412.48] Yeah, they do.
1139
- [2412.48 --> 2418.34] And also users are already getting familiar with needing to get their hands into so many other platforms.
1140
- [2418.54 --> 2418.64] Yeah.
1141
- [2418.88 --> 2421.98] And you know how we were talking about there's going to be sites that pop up that bring everything together?
1142
- [2422.14 --> 2422.76] They already exist.
1143
- [2423.30 --> 2423.90] All right.
1144
- [2423.98 --> 2424.40] Well, there you go.
1145
- [2424.40 --> 2424.80] They're already a thing.
1146
- [2425.24 --> 2425.36] Yeah.
1147
- [2425.92 --> 2429.12] So you just kind of like log in with all your logins there and then it just becomes a single hub.
1148
- [2429.14 --> 2430.44] It becomes one viewing site.
1149
- [2431.46 --> 2431.86] Yeah.
1150
- [2432.18 --> 2434.52] So like I got tons of tweets about that last time.
1151
- [2434.58 --> 2434.72] Yeah.
1152
- [2434.72 --> 2435.84] I think they're actually, you know what?
1153
- [2435.88 --> 2440.84] I feel really stupid now because I know Samsung had a thing built into their smart TVs like a while back.
1154
- [2440.84 --> 2441.84] That mixes it all together.
1155
- [2441.98 --> 2443.12] For years that actually just.
1156
- [2443.12 --> 2444.66] It's just a browser of the other browsers.
1157
- [2444.80 --> 2445.00] Yeah.
1158
- [2445.08 --> 2449.02] It just goes and finds and it can even browse rental services like Google Play.
1159
- [2449.10 --> 2449.56] Oh, that's neat.
1160
- [2449.90 --> 2453.74] You know what's really funny is on the subject of Apple doing their own original programming
1161
- [2453.74 --> 2457.22] and like they should probably change the name of like iTunes now.
1162
- [2457.22 --> 2464.90] I gave Google so much crap about Google Play Store back when they did it.
1163
- [2465.34 --> 2468.16] Now it totally makes sense.
1164
- [2468.34 --> 2468.36] Yeah.
1165
- [2468.54 --> 2468.62] Yeah.
1166
- [2468.82 --> 2472.04] Play music, play games, play videos.
1167
- [2472.38 --> 2475.30] Oh, they actually got that one right.
1168
- [2475.48 --> 2475.70] Yeah.
1169
- [2475.98 --> 2476.94] Way to go, Google.
1170
- [2477.86 --> 2478.00] Sometimes.
1171
- [2478.00 --> 2480.90] They just did it way ahead of time when in the moment it didn't make a ton of sense.
1172
- [2480.90 --> 2481.02] Yeah.
1173
- [2481.02 --> 2482.42] It just made a lot more sense in the future.
1174
- [2482.62 --> 2485.02] They were playing 3D chess.
1175
- [2485.28 --> 2486.02] They were doing the long game.
1176
- [2486.02 --> 2487.76] And I was playing with my penis.
1177
- [2488.24 --> 2488.56] Wow.
1178
- [2489.78 --> 2491.56] That was what was going on there.
1179
- [2491.82 --> 2492.74] I didn't get it.
1180
- [2492.80 --> 2495.80] I mean, you were making children at that point in time.
1181
- [2496.02 --> 2496.64] No, not yet.
1182
- [2496.90 --> 2497.30] Oh, okay.
1183
- [2497.70 --> 2497.92] Yeah.
1184
- [2498.02 --> 2498.54] No, not yet.
1185
- [2498.64 --> 2500.22] No, that was a solo effort.
1186
- [2500.42 --> 2501.86] Oh, that's why it was just playing.
1187
- [2501.94 --> 2502.52] Solo effort.
1188
- [2502.68 --> 2503.00] I see.
1189
- [2503.18 --> 2503.34] Yeah.
1190
- [2503.46 --> 2503.78] Okay.
1191
- [2504.58 --> 2504.80] Yeah.
1192
- [2505.06 --> 2505.26] Yeah.
1193
- [2505.44 --> 2505.58] Yeah.
1194
- [2506.36 --> 2507.28] Still a fun game.
1195
- [2508.00 --> 2510.02] I'm surprised I would have one billion here.
1196
- [2510.02 --> 2510.66] It's great.
1197
- [2513.84 --> 2515.94] I put up the green screen picture from earlier.
1198
- [2516.02 --> 2516.70] When someone did that.
1199
- [2516.80 --> 2517.62] Oh, no.
1200
- [2519.00 --> 2520.26] I love how you said that.
1201
- [2521.44 --> 2522.44] Oh, no.
1202
- [2522.72 --> 2523.74] Show him the other one.
1203
- [2524.64 --> 2526.18] These guys can't see.
1204
- [2526.18 --> 2527.24] I'll show you that.
1205
- [2527.24 --> 2528.74] You guys are going to need to check out at Jay's Two Cents.
1206
- [2529.08 --> 2529.50] Actually, here.
1207
- [2529.60 --> 2530.50] I can pull it up.
1208
- [2530.92 --> 2531.14] Yeah.
1209
- [2531.34 --> 2531.88] It's pretty.
1210
- [2532.06 --> 2532.56] It's pretty.
1211
- [2533.26 --> 2533.66] So we.
1212
- [2534.34 --> 2537.42] Dimitri and I earlier, if you guys follow our social media, we stood in front of their green screen.
1213
- [2537.90 --> 2538.74] And it was.
1214
- [2538.96 --> 2542.08] To give you guys an opportunity to key out and play around with green screen pictures.
1215
- [2542.22 --> 2542.84] There's some good options.
1216
- [2542.84 --> 2544.88] There's some really good creative people out there.
1217
- [2544.96 --> 2545.52] My goodness.
1218
- [2546.24 --> 2547.12] Just go to media.
1219
- [2547.50 --> 2547.96] Oh, there it is.
1220
- [2548.04 --> 2548.16] Yeah.
1221
- [2548.76 --> 2550.38] Also, make sure to tag.
1222
- [2550.68 --> 2551.88] Some of them might not be appropriate.
1223
- [2552.02 --> 2553.18] So you might not want to scroll live.
1224
- [2553.18 --> 2555.52] Okay, there it is.
1225
- [2555.54 --> 2557.14] Well, there's the one we were looking for.
1226
- [2560.04 --> 2561.58] Who's that you're thinking up there, Jay?
1227
- [2561.64 --> 2562.40] Would your wife approve?
1228
- [2562.44 --> 2563.04] Who is that?
1229
- [2563.26 --> 2567.08] Who is that foxy, uh, foxy individual?
1230
- [2567.08 --> 2567.42] Foxy, babe.
1231
- [2568.74 --> 2569.82] Oh, what is going on here?
1232
- [2570.40 --> 2571.08] Dang it, Apple.
1233
- [2572.90 --> 2573.34] What is that?
1234
- [2573.34 --> 2573.72] A spider?
1235
- [2574.76 --> 2575.38] That's a sun.
1236
- [2575.44 --> 2575.92] That's a sun.
1237
- [2576.04 --> 2576.26] Okay.
1238
- [2578.02 --> 2578.88] Oh, man.
1239
- [2580.30 --> 2581.04] That's great.
1240
- [2581.64 --> 2582.18] Oh, my God.
1241
- [2582.18 --> 2583.46] That's...
1242
- [2583.46 --> 2584.58] That is great.
1243
- [2588.00 --> 2588.90] All right.
1244
- [2589.26 --> 2589.50] See?
1245
- [2590.04 --> 2591.00] We know how to have fun.
1246
- [2591.24 --> 2591.94] We can have fun.
1247
- [2592.56 --> 2593.14] Something that will work.
1248
- [2593.32 --> 2593.76] All right.
1249
- [2593.88 --> 2596.32] So here's some potentially big news.
1250
- [2596.48 --> 2599.02] So PCGamer.com reports,
1251
- [2599.22 --> 2601.80] and I'm just going to close this ad before I screen share with you guys,
1252
- [2602.38 --> 2608.02] NVIDIA's next-gen Volta gaming GPUs not arriving anytime soon.
1253
- [2608.02 --> 2608.60] Well, why would they?
1254
- [2608.72 --> 2612.06] So this picture right here is Jensen showing off Volta,
1255
- [2612.64 --> 2616.68] already super-duper definitely working in the data center,
1256
- [2616.82 --> 2621.00] which means, based on the way that NVIDIA rolls out product,
1257
- [2621.54 --> 2623.88] they launch their big GPU first,
1258
- [2624.74 --> 2626.54] and whatever product that is,
1259
- [2626.68 --> 2627.94] it used to be GeForce,
1260
- [2628.36 --> 2630.82] now it never is, but I'm not bitter.
1261
- [2631.36 --> 2632.82] NVIDIA launches their big one first,
1262
- [2632.90 --> 2635.62] which means they've got the architecture down,
1263
- [2635.86 --> 2637.48] and then they just cut.
1264
- [2637.96 --> 2639.26] They cut and cut and cut,
1265
- [2639.34 --> 2642.16] and the performance goes down according to how much they cut away.
1266
- [2642.16 --> 2646.94] That process usually takes like two to three months per cut,
1267
- [2647.02 --> 2648.10] because there is an R&D.
1268
- [2648.10 --> 2651.72] It's obviously more complicated than just like taking a pair of scissors to a,
1269
- [2651.72 --> 2656.74] you know, to a V100 and like taping that to a PCB.
1270
- [2656.74 --> 2659.56] Like, so there's R&D that is involved with that,
1271
- [2659.60 --> 2661.24] and you've only got so many engineers at a time.
1272
- [2661.30 --> 2662.52] It's a resource management thing.
1273
- [2663.30 --> 2665.82] So based on when they showed off,
1274
- [2666.18 --> 2669.66] working, like production Volta silicon,
1275
- [2670.48 --> 2675.16] they could probably be launching a GeForce card now if they felt like it.
1276
- [2675.16 --> 2675.90] But there's no reason to.
1277
- [2675.98 --> 2678.68] There's no competition for them to do it.
1278
- [2678.76 --> 2681.50] And they pushed back their HBM already,
1279
- [2681.66 --> 2685.18] generations from when the original roadmap back in like 2012 was leaked.
1280
- [2685.42 --> 2685.48] Yeah.
1281
- [2685.48 --> 2686.64] It was Maxwell, I believe,
1282
- [2686.74 --> 2688.62] was when we were supposed to first see HBM.
1283
- [2688.80 --> 2689.56] But we super did.
1284
- [2689.58 --> 2690.92] But they now look at Vega,
1285
- [2690.92 --> 2693.90] again, there's just like why even invest in the manufacturing cost of this
1286
- [2693.90 --> 2694.80] when we don't have to,
1287
- [2694.90 --> 2698.12] when our traditional architecture is still topping the competition.
1288
- [2698.84 --> 2701.18] And the other thing too is like NVIDIA strategically,
1289
- [2701.34 --> 2702.84] you've seen it over the last five years,
1290
- [2702.84 --> 2705.92] has moved from try to make the GPU faster, faster, faster,
1291
- [2706.10 --> 2709.88] to try to build out technology around the GPU.
1292
- [2710.12 --> 2713.08] Whether it's stuff that doesn't make a ton of sense to me personally,
1293
- [2713.24 --> 2715.84] like Ansel is that screenshotting thing
1294
- [2715.84 --> 2718.70] where you can capture like super high resolution stills.
1295
- [2718.70 --> 2720.04] Do you guys know anyone that uses that?
1296
- [2720.04 --> 2720.94] Have you used it?
1297
- [2721.20 --> 2722.94] I've used it only in the demo version
1298
- [2722.94 --> 2725.90] just to see how high resolution you can go
1299
- [2725.90 --> 2727.34] if you go like crank up the settings.
1300
- [2727.50 --> 2730.88] But outside of seeing how beautifully you can turn those screenshots
1301
- [2730.88 --> 2732.70] for like Witcher 3 and other games,
1302
- [2733.86 --> 2734.02] there's never...
1303
- [2734.02 --> 2734.64] I've never touched it.
1304
- [2734.64 --> 2736.52] If you want like a big poster on your wall...
1305
- [2736.52 --> 2737.68] I have never used it, ever.
1306
- [2737.78 --> 2738.88] Like I'll tell you guys this.
1307
- [2738.92 --> 2741.40] I remember this was a weird experience for me at a LAN party.
1308
- [2741.50 --> 2743.32] This was back when like I went to LAN party,
1309
- [2743.32 --> 2745.04] so clearly I like played video games.
1310
- [2745.52 --> 2747.22] But I wasn't really...
1311
- [2747.22 --> 2751.30] Like I didn't have like a guild or like a clan or anything like that.
1312
- [2751.38 --> 2754.52] So being like really into video games was kind of alien to me.
1313
- [2754.98 --> 2757.12] And there were these two people at a LAN.
1314
- [2757.34 --> 2759.88] And it's only like a 45, 50 person LAN.
1315
- [2760.78 --> 2762.90] Which like is big, but it's not that big.
1316
- [2763.18 --> 2765.18] They spent like two hours...
1317
- [2765.18 --> 2770.86] Literally, it felt like, you know, Uncle Harold's like vacation pictures.
1318
- [2771.34 --> 2775.72] One of them was showing the other one an album of wow screenshots.
1319
- [2776.20 --> 2776.38] Yeah.
1320
- [2776.52 --> 2780.22] Like this was the time we climbed to the top of freaking some mountain
1321
- [2780.22 --> 2783.36] and whoever clipped through the thing and like...
1322
- [2783.36 --> 2784.36] Whoever clipped through the thing.
1323
- [2784.42 --> 2785.00] So it was Hyjal?
1324
- [2785.64 --> 2785.92] What?
1325
- [2786.02 --> 2786.98] I don't know what you're talking about.
1326
- [2786.98 --> 2789.48] So you know, this might have been pretty cool.
1327
- [2789.80 --> 2791.90] Okay, one thing, wow screenshots was like a big deal
1328
- [2791.90 --> 2793.96] because you'd show boss kills.
1329
- [2793.96 --> 2797.14] And you'd usually have like the timestamp.
1330
- [2797.46 --> 2799.70] So if you were like world first or server first or whatever,
1331
- [2799.82 --> 2800.84] you could show the boss kill.
1332
- [2801.34 --> 2802.48] It could be...
1333
- [2802.48 --> 2804.76] And if he's talking about Mount Hyjal...
1334
- [2804.76 --> 2807.08] And this is when you were at LAN parties.
1335
- [2807.34 --> 2808.84] So this is probably classic wow, correct?
1336
- [2809.20 --> 2809.58] Yeah.
1337
- [2809.84 --> 2813.00] In classic wow, you were not allowed to get to Mount Hyjal.
1338
- [2813.24 --> 2815.94] So he probably has a similar screenshot set to me,
1339
- [2816.04 --> 2819.88] which is glitching through many walls and over many things.
1340
- [2819.88 --> 2821.70] And it takes like quite a while to get there.
1341
- [2821.78 --> 2823.80] And you're just like screwing the game repeatedly.
1342
- [2823.96 --> 2828.38] And you get to a part of the game that has like Blizzard Co. construction signs.
1343
- [2828.76 --> 2831.22] And there's stuff that never got released that's in there.
1344
- [2831.92 --> 2832.10] Hmm.
1345
- [2832.44 --> 2836.52] Like Archimons, like big giant skull leaning up against this tree and stuff,
1346
- [2836.56 --> 2837.76] which was never in the game.
1347
- [2838.24 --> 2839.72] So it was actually super cool.
1348
- [2839.86 --> 2841.12] And it was glitchers.
1349
- [2841.30 --> 2843.38] It wasn't necessarily just people that are interested in wow,
1350
- [2843.38 --> 2844.92] because I was a glitcher back then.
1351
- [2845.04 --> 2847.84] I broke like every single aspect of Halo 2.
1352
- [2847.84 --> 2848.84] I was like, oh, I'm going to talk to you.
1353
- [2848.84 --> 2849.84] I'm going to talk to you.
1354
- [2849.84 --> 2850.84] I'm going to talk to you.
1355
- [2850.84 --> 2852.30] I haven't talked to you in many years.
1356
- [2852.30 --> 2856.08] But this guy named Utah Crusher, him and I used to play Halo 2 together.
1357
- [2856.72 --> 2861.40] And we were like in the first group of people that found the switching from rocket to a sword
1358
- [2861.40 --> 2863.30] and flying across the entire map glitch.
1359
- [2863.84 --> 2864.94] If you knew that one.
1360
- [2865.06 --> 2865.80] I killed Hogger.
1361
- [2865.90 --> 2867.70] You would do this thing where the rocket...
1362
- [2867.70 --> 2868.48] I killed Hogger.
1363
- [2868.48 --> 2873.22] The rocket, you could aim at someone and it would show red because you were targeting them, right?
1364
- [2874.00 --> 2874.56] Do you remember that?
1365
- [2875.10 --> 2876.12] I never played Halo 2.
1366
- [2876.20 --> 2877.10] That's an Xbox game.
1367
- [2877.84 --> 2878.64] Okay, whatever, man.
1368
- [2878.96 --> 2881.06] I think it happened in Halo 1, too.
1369
- [2881.44 --> 2884.38] If you aimed over top of someone, the aimer would turn red.
1370
- [2886.42 --> 2886.86] Anyways.
1371
- [2886.88 --> 2887.46] I don't remember.
1372
- [2887.84 --> 2888.84] That was a long time ago.
1373
- [2889.00 --> 2890.00] That was like a state.
1374
- [2890.46 --> 2895.22] And the sword, if the aimer was red, you would lunge towards them and the state was shared.
1375
- [2895.22 --> 2901.00] So if you switched it fast enough and lunged, it wouldn't notice that it wasn't in that state anymore.
1376
- [2901.18 --> 2902.88] So it would let you lunge to the person.
1377
- [2903.16 --> 2906.00] But they're super far away because it's the targeting from the rocket launcher.
1378
- [2906.34 --> 2908.48] So you just like, shoof, and just fly at them.
1379
- [2908.86 --> 2909.58] It was pretty cool.
1380
- [2909.74 --> 2910.76] We did a lot of other stuff, too.
1381
- [2911.10 --> 2912.06] I'm going to stop talking.
1382
- [2912.06 --> 2912.86] So I'll say this.
1383
- [2914.54 --> 2919.32] Many, many of the screenshots were just like, here's me and this other person in a meadow.
1384
- [2920.04 --> 2920.40] Oh.
1385
- [2920.84 --> 2921.98] It was really bad.
1386
- [2921.98 --> 2926.28] So, okay, anyway, back to the topic.
1387
- [2927.54 --> 2931.08] Some of the stuff NVIDIA's building doesn't make a ton of sense to me, like Ansel.
1388
- [2931.70 --> 2934.46] But some of the stuff they're building does make a ton of sense.
1389
- [2934.92 --> 2936.74] Things like streaming.
1390
- [2939.14 --> 2941.30] Better GPU-based encoding and decoding.
1391
- [2941.54 --> 2943.48] All that kind of stuff does make sense to me.
1392
- [2943.48 --> 2955.44] So pretty much what they're doing is they're kind of going, we don't even need to develop a much, much faster GPU every year.
1393
- [2955.44 --> 2970.14] We're just going to put more tech in it to the point where even if the RX Vega 556 was the same price as a GTX 1070, NVIDIA's whole thing on their side is like, we still think you should buy a 1070 anyway.
1394
- [2970.14 --> 2972.94] Because we do release day drivers every time.
1395
- [2973.38 --> 2974.82] Oh, by the way, they're Wickel-Lol.
1396
- [2976.72 --> 2978.54] And then we've got all this other tech.
1397
- [2978.66 --> 2982.74] We've got Shadowplay and all that kind of stuff built into it.
1398
- [2983.26 --> 2987.52] And, you know, AMD's approach is, oh, yeah, but like our approach is open.
1399
- [2987.52 --> 2989.52] But you look at sometimes...
1400
- [2990.06 --> 2991.58] But NVIDIA started opening stuff up too, though.
1401
- [2991.88 --> 2996.16] Sometimes open makes sense, but only if you're actually doing any work.
1402
- [2996.96 --> 2997.10] Yeah.
1403
- [2997.20 --> 3003.34] Because like, look at how, okay, so stereoscopic 3D, however much of an abortion you may or may not think it is.
1404
- [3004.20 --> 3007.14] NVIDIA did a better job because they actually did work on it.
1405
- [3007.44 --> 3015.56] Whereas AMD was just like, yeah, through IZ3D and whatever that other thing was, you can enable stereoscopic 3D on our cards.
1406
- [3015.56 --> 3017.38] But they were these janky 3D cards.
1407
- [3017.44 --> 3018.60] Did you ever try IZ3D?
1408
- [3019.06 --> 3019.94] No, I didn't.
1409
- [3020.00 --> 3020.48] It was awful.
1410
- [3020.50 --> 3021.78] I never did NVIDIA's 3D stuff either.
1411
- [3021.98 --> 3022.86] It was awful.
1412
- [3023.46 --> 3030.12] Like, if you think 3D is bad, imagine 3D, but like, there's no oxygen in the room.
1413
- [3030.14 --> 3032.50] So just to say 3D ready or whatever.
1414
- [3032.72 --> 3032.84] Yeah.
1415
- [3032.98 --> 3035.56] Just to have the checkbox.
1416
- [3035.64 --> 3036.34] It was super bad.
1417
- [3036.42 --> 3036.58] Yeah.
1418
- [3037.08 --> 3038.70] We did testing for that a long time ago.
1419
- [3038.72 --> 3039.76] People are telling me to shut up.
1420
- [3040.88 --> 3043.30] I think like three quarters of the chat is, Dimitri!
1421
- [3044.56 --> 3045.04] Dimitri!
1422
- [3045.56 --> 3047.20] In the chat.
1423
- [3047.66 --> 3047.90] Yeah.
1424
- [3048.52 --> 3049.50] So much of it.
1425
- [3049.82 --> 3050.38] You talked.
1426
- [3050.80 --> 3051.06] Yeah.
1427
- [3051.20 --> 3052.34] I mean, you gave them what they wanted.
1428
- [3052.68 --> 3053.36] Okay, here.
1429
- [3053.46 --> 3055.42] I've got something for Dimitri to discuss.
1430
- [3055.82 --> 3057.48] This was posted by Perino on the forum.
1431
- [3057.56 --> 3059.68] The original article here is from Ars Technica.
1432
- [3060.24 --> 3061.70] And this blew my mind.
1433
- [3063.28 --> 3068.14] Bing is bigger than you think, says Microsoft, with a quarter of UK searches.
1434
- [3068.84 --> 3069.32] Whoa.
1435
- [3069.58 --> 3069.84] Wow.
1436
- [3071.02 --> 3073.14] So they're saying a quarter of the searches are from UK?
1437
- [3073.14 --> 3074.08] No.
1438
- [3074.60 --> 3075.14] No, no.
1439
- [3075.14 --> 3079.92] A quarter of the UK's searches are using Bing.
1440
- [3079.92 --> 3085.26] 10% in Spain, 19% in France, 9% in...
1441
- [3085.26 --> 3086.50] What type of use, though, is it?
1442
- [3086.58 --> 3087.54] Whatever that is.
1443
- [3087.78 --> 3088.42] What are they searching?
1444
- [3089.24 --> 3092.02] They're just looking to buy, to download Chrome.
1445
- [3095.96 --> 3097.52] That's probably legit, man.
1446
- [3098.36 --> 3101.74] Apparently, Taiwan is as high as 25%?
1447
- [3101.74 --> 3104.06] Dude, the US is 33%.
1448
- [3104.06 --> 3104.46] Yeah.
1449
- [3104.68 --> 3104.96] What?
1450
- [3105.32 --> 3106.72] The US is the biggest percentage.
1451
- [3108.02 --> 3109.24] 16% Canada.
1452
- [3109.78 --> 3111.20] But these are just...
1453
- [3111.20 --> 3112.30] What type of use?
1454
- [3112.46 --> 3114.62] These are just figures being put out by...
1455
- [3114.62 --> 3116.06] Denmark is the lowest percentage.
1456
- [3116.86 --> 3122.78] Because they may be just using type to search, which uses Bing as your search result.
1457
- [3122.86 --> 3128.50] I love how they're saying Bing is bigger than you think, and then there's literally multiple single-digit percentages.
1458
- [3129.36 --> 3129.62] Yeah.
1459
- [3129.74 --> 3130.96] That is bigger than I think.
1460
- [3130.96 --> 3133.56] To be fair, yeah, but, like, damn, guys.
1461
- [3133.96 --> 3138.96] I honestly think, like Demetri said, that's just because they're searching for another browser to download on new installs.
1462
- [3138.96 --> 3143.06] But 33% of all traffic in the USA is not searching for another browser to download.
1463
- [3143.50 --> 3145.10] Like, I'm not even just trying to be devil's advocate.
1464
- [3145.22 --> 3145.56] That's not...
1465
- [3146.78 --> 3147.40] There's no way.
1466
- [3147.44 --> 3148.40] So if they're using Cortana?
1467
- [3148.58 --> 3149.72] Yeah, Cortana uses Bing.
1468
- [3149.94 --> 3151.28] So anytime you type that in...
1469
- [3151.28 --> 3151.50] Oh.
1470
- [3151.84 --> 3152.50] Click enter.
1471
- [3152.82 --> 3153.34] It...
1472
- [3153.34 --> 3155.24] So that's just a falsified...
1473
- [3155.24 --> 3158.60] Not really falsified, but it's skewed and that's making it look like...
1474
- [3158.60 --> 3158.82] That's using Bing.
1475
- [3158.82 --> 3160.12] But I'm not going to Bing.
1476
- [3160.12 --> 3164.42] I don't use Cortana to begin with, but if I do a search or something down here, I'm not searching Bing.
1477
- [3164.50 --> 3167.12] I'm just searching here, usually for something on my system, but...
1478
- [3167.68 --> 3169.02] Yeah, but that doesn't work anyway.
1479
- [3169.18 --> 3173.60] Most of the time, it just gives you driver download from online.
1480
- [3173.66 --> 3181.52] But it searches the internet simultaneously when you search for something local, so that's not necessarily a good representation of Bing usage.
1481
- [3181.86 --> 3184.24] Yeah, that and I accidentally use Bing a lot.
1482
- [3184.60 --> 3185.00] Accidentally?
1483
- [3185.00 --> 3186.76] So you contribute to that...
1484
- [3186.76 --> 3187.16] How many?
1485
- [3187.30 --> 3187.88] 13%?
1486
- [3188.22 --> 3189.32] 16% in Canada.
1487
- [3189.78 --> 3194.36] So I'll launch Edge because I haven't bothered to install another browser yet, and I'll search for something.
1488
- [3194.42 --> 3195.26] I'll be like, oh crap.
1489
- [3195.94 --> 3197.80] And then I'll have to search for Google.
1490
- [3198.02 --> 3201.10] Someone in chat just said Alexa uses Bing, and Alexa's huge in the States.
1491
- [3202.10 --> 3202.22] Hmm.
1492
- [3202.78 --> 3203.66] Oh, okay.
1493
- [3203.66 --> 3206.24] That would maybe make sense why it's 33% there.
1494
- [3206.38 --> 3208.78] Because apparently globally, it's about 9%.
1495
- [3208.78 --> 3209.94] Hmm.
1496
- [3209.94 --> 3210.46] Ouch.
1497
- [3211.12 --> 3213.32] And then 33% in the USA.
1498
- [3213.46 --> 3214.14] That's huge.
1499
- [3217.78 --> 3220.08] Even like Hong Kong is 20%.
1500
- [3220.08 --> 3220.10] Sirius is Bing.
1501
- [3220.90 --> 3221.38] Sirius.
1502
- [3221.42 --> 3222.06] That can't be right.
1503
- [3222.20 --> 3223.30] I'm pretty sure that's not right.
1504
- [3223.98 --> 3225.26] Bing is for porn, apparently.
1505
- [3226.56 --> 3227.00] What?
1506
- [3227.80 --> 3233.60] Yeah, so a certain friend of ours in Seattle would say that, like, I guess the algorithm for that is way better.
1507
- [3234.40 --> 3234.62] Oh.
1508
- [3234.88 --> 3236.18] A certain friend of ours in Seattle?
1509
- [3236.74 --> 3237.06] Yeah.
1510
- [3237.06 --> 3240.08] Well, I'm not getting involved in that.
1511
- [3240.66 --> 3242.96] Thanks for tuning into the WAN Show, you guys.
1512
- [3243.94 --> 3249.38] Thanks again to Jay and Dimitri, not only for being here for Scrapyard Wars, but also for being here on the show.
1513
- [3249.50 --> 3252.86] So you can find Jay over at, I mean, I know the answer.
1514
- [3253.08 --> 3253.54] Jay's two cents.
1515
- [3254.02 --> 3254.52] With a Z.
1516
- [3254.80 --> 3255.92] Not to be confused with the wrapper.
1517
- [3256.42 --> 3256.62] Yeah.
1518
- [3257.54 --> 3259.38] And us at Hardware Canucks.
1519
- [3264.90 --> 3265.14] Click.
1520
- [3265.14 --> 3267.14] Yeah, I'm just, I'm leaving it because it's funny.
1521
- [3267.46 --> 3267.66] Oh.
1522
- [3267.74 --> 3268.20] I'll do it.
1523
- [3268.26 --> 3268.56] There you go.
1524
- [3268.80 --> 3274.14] Oh, we should have done a special intro with, like, you guys, like, on planes coming here.
1525
- [3274.62 --> 3275.74] That would have been real cool.
1526
- [3277.62 --> 3278.64] If I could share some footage.
1527
- [3278.64 --> 3279.46] They're like biplanes.
1528
- [3280.16 --> 3281.10] Little scarves and goggles.
1529
- [3281.42 --> 3282.28] Did you do, like, a vlog?
1530
- [3283.60 --> 3284.80] Did you do, like, a vlog?
1531
- [3285.02 --> 3285.26] Yeah.
1532
- [3285.32 --> 3285.70] Is it even sure?
1533
- [3285.82 --> 3286.10] Cool.
1534
- [3286.52 --> 3287.34] Are you putting that on your channel?
1535
- [3287.52 --> 3287.70] Yeah.
1536
- [3287.70 --> 3290.26] If you want to see a travel vlog, go to Dimitri's channel.
1537
- [3290.90 --> 3291.36] Hardware Canucks.
1538
- [3291.36 --> 3291.80] Hardware Canucks.
1539
- [3293.20 --> 3294.26] Is that my personal channel?
1540
- [3294.66 --> 3295.20] Oh, no, no.
1541
- [3295.32 --> 3296.64] I'm collecting stuff still.
1542
- [3296.82 --> 3297.00] Oh.
1543
- [3297.18 --> 3297.34] Yeah.
1544
- [3297.94 --> 3298.52] That'll be good, though.
1545
- [3298.54 --> 3298.88] That'll be good.
1546
- [3298.88 --> 3328.86] Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Google & Facebook Filtering FAKE NEWS?? - WAN Show April 7, 2017_transcript.txt DELETED
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1
- [0.00 --> 2.00] You got it?
2
- [3.08 --> 7.78] Okay, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the WEN show.
3
- [7.78 --> 14.68] I gotta tell you this is the least prepared I have been for the show in quite some time.
4
- [14.68 --> 22.70] I couldn't find the capture card, I couldn't find my chair, and I couldn't even find my regular co-host.
5
- [22.70 --> 31.54] But for many of you, that probably won't be much of a problem because you might remember that this is Mr. Scott Wasson,
6
- [31.54 --> 40.70] who has actually joined us a couple of times in the past, though it would have been in his previous role as the editor-in-chief and owner of TechReport.
7
- [40.70 --> 48.46] So I think we actually covered it on the show, but just to be clear, what's this capsaicin nonsense you're wearing on your shirt here?
8
- [48.92 --> 52.36] Oh, so capsaicin is an event that we've had. We've had a couple of them at GDC.
9
- [52.36 --> 54.36] I kind of meant who's we now.
10
- [54.36 --> 59.36] We, I should say. So I left the TechReport a little over a year ago and joined AMD.
11
- [59.36 --> 65.36] So I'm in the Radeon Technologies group at AMD, and so working with the GPU guys, especially in Radeon Gaming.
12
- [65.36 --> 69.36] And so capsaicin is an event we've had at the Game Developers Conference.
13
- [69.36 --> 77.36] That we didn't get to attend because NVIDIA was busy telling us about Vulkan, I think, was most of that presentation.
14
- [77.36 --> 86.36] Meanwhile, Luke is sitting here with like a video with, I think, 700,000 views or something on YouTube explaining pretty much what he sat in the presentation hearing.
15
- [86.36 --> 91.36] I was kind of sitting here. When are you going to talk about 1080 TI? Are you going to talk about 1080 TI yet?
16
- [91.36 --> 94.36] Anyway, sorry. So capsaicin, the event we missed. Yes, please carry on.
17
- [94.36 --> 97.36] Well, it's basically we're talking with developers about our new tech, right?
18
- [97.36 --> 108.36] So we talk about things like Vega architecture, capsaicin, what we're doing in terms of, you know, GPU open things, various things that we do to help game developers make their games better in our GPUs.
19
- [108.36 --> 115.36] So, I mean, this feels like kind of a you scratch my back, I scratch your back kind of situation.
20
- [115.36 --> 120.36] We've never, we've, oh, actually, no, once we have.
21
- [120.36 --> 128.36] But, okay, in the last three years, we haven't allowed a manufacturer to co-host the WAN show with us.
22
- [128.36 --> 133.36] So you mentioned Vega there. Do you have anything you can share with us?
23
- [133.36 --> 141.36] New stuff? I don't know. We've talked a lot about Vega given it's not actually out yet.
24
- [141.36 --> 145.36] We said it's coming soon. And we talked a ton about the architecture, right?
25
- [145.36 --> 147.36] We've actually disclosed a ton.
26
- [147.36 --> 149.36] I'm so mean putting you on the spot like that.
27
- [149.36 --> 153.36] And I've talked about Vega architecture with a lot of people and I love talking about it.
28
- [153.36 --> 155.36] There's some cool stuff that we're doing.
29
- [155.36 --> 161.36] So we're going to chat about that later. And we've got a lot of other great topics for you guys, including, this is awkward.
30
- [161.36 --> 165.36] NVIDIA releasing the Titan XP.
31
- [165.36 --> 169.36] Apple to begin making their own GPUs.
32
- [169.36 --> 175.36] NVIDIA to release Pascal drivers for Mac OS.
33
- [175.36 --> 180.36] Oh, and YouTube updates the partner program.
34
- [180.36 --> 182.36] That seems safe.
35
- [182.36 --> 189.36] Yeah, yeah. Some of these topics, I think as an AMD person, if I talk about them, they load me into a cannon and shoot me into the sun.
36
- [189.36 --> 191.36] Cool.
37
- [191.36 --> 199.36] So I can't talk about like stuff that, I can't talk about like stuff that like AMD's customers did or things like that.
38
- [199.36 --> 201.36] But we'll tiptoe through this.
39
- [201.36 --> 204.36] Yeah, but I'm sure we'll make our way through the show.
40
- [204.36 --> 211.36] I mean, it wouldn't be WAN show if there wasn't an awkward moment or somebody getting fired into the sun or whatever the case may be.
41
- [211.36 --> 212.36] All right.
42
- [212.36 --> 213.36] Buzzers!
43
- [213.36 --> 214.36] Squarespace!
44
- [214.36 --> 215.36] FreshBuzz!
45
- [215.36 --> 216.36] Why isn't AMD in here?
46
- [216.36 --> 217.36] We'll work on that, man.
47
- [217.36 --> 224.36] I guess they provided us with one Scott Wawson to keep us company today.
48
- [224.36 --> 230.36] So why don't we jump into, why don't we just jump right into something that you can talk about a little bit.
49
- [230.36 --> 233.36] So YouTube has updated their partner program.
50
- [233.36 --> 238.36] Nowadays, actually the original article here is over from techcrunch.com.
51
- [238.36 --> 240.36] I'm going to go ahead and pull that up for you guys.
52
- [240.36 --> 255.36] And this is kind of crazy because I've been playing the YouTube game long enough that I actually do remember a time when YouTube invited you specifically.
53
- [255.36 --> 260.36] Like they would email you out of the blue and invite you to their partner program.
54
- [260.36 --> 265.36] And it wasn't until quite a bit later that they opened it up for people to be able to apply.
55
- [265.36 --> 272.36] And then it wasn't until quite a bit later after that that they changed.
56
- [272.36 --> 274.36] It was kind of a quiet rollout.
57
- [274.36 --> 275.36] Do you remember this?
58
- [275.36 --> 283.36] Where all of a sudden, like the random video of like somebody's cat getting picked up by an eagle or whatever would have an ad on it.
59
- [283.36 --> 286.36] Well, that is pretty cool if a cat got picked up by an eagle.
60
- [286.36 --> 292.36] I think the one I was thinking of was actually a kid getting picked up by an eagle and then it turned out to be fake.
61
- [292.36 --> 293.36] That's cool, but also interesting.
62
- [293.36 --> 295.36] Yeah.
63
- [295.36 --> 305.36] So basically this is all in response to a big controversy that's actually been going on in the YouTube space over the last little while.
64
- [305.36 --> 309.36] And I'm going to get someone to maybe, hey Max?
65
- [309.36 --> 312.36] Is someone in the warehouse?
66
- [312.36 --> 313.36] No?
67
- [313.36 --> 314.36] Okay.
68
- [314.36 --> 315.36] Okay.
69
- [315.36 --> 321.36] So basically it's been – oh yes, Jake, perfect.
70
- [321.36 --> 326.36] Can you move the foil so that it's not hanging into the top right of the frame there?
71
- [326.36 --> 327.36] Beautiful.
72
- [327.36 --> 328.36] Thank you.
73
- [328.36 --> 329.36] Okay.
74
- [329.36 --> 330.36] Never mind.
75
- [330.36 --> 331.36] We're good.
76
- [331.36 --> 332.36] Carry on.
77
- [332.36 --> 336.36] So basically this has been part of a big controversy that's been going on right now on YouTube.
78
- [336.36 --> 337.36] Have you been paying attention to this?
79
- [337.36 --> 338.36] A little bit, yeah.
80
- [338.36 --> 339.36] A little bit, yeah.
81
- [339.36 --> 340.36] Okay.
82
- [340.36 --> 348.36] So long story short, for those of you who haven't been in the loop, is YouTube, Google, is getting their advertisers pulled.
83
- [348.36 --> 377.36] So whether the piece of content is one about, you know, hating a particular ethnicity of people or about how this person is so wrong they should be just put up against a wall and shot or whatever the controversial piece of content is, YouTube has been scaling back on delivering ads on that content in response to very large, multinational brands,
84
- [377.36 --> 384.36] pulling their advertising dollars when they realized their ad was being shown on this type of content.
85
- [384.36 --> 387.36] And I mean maybe this is something you can comment on a little bit.
86
- [387.36 --> 394.36] I mean do you imagine from an AMD perspective that that might be a reasonable reaction?
87
- [394.36 --> 395.36] I mean, yeah.
88
- [395.36 --> 400.36] You don't want to see your brand next to some hateful rant or something like that.
89
- [400.36 --> 402.36] I mean it's terrible, right?
90
- [402.36 --> 403.36] Okay.
91
- [403.36 --> 404.36] Not everybody feels that way.
92
- [404.36 --> 414.36] So we got a lot of feedback from our audience when we sided with the big brands, the big evil brands, saying that that wouldn't feel inappropriate to them.
93
- [414.36 --> 416.36] And they kind of went, well an eyeball is an eyeball.
94
- [416.36 --> 418.36] What difference does it make?
95
- [418.36 --> 420.36] Why does that matter?
96
- [420.36 --> 421.36] Wow.
97
- [421.36 --> 428.36] Well, I mean first of all, of course, just from a very businessy perspective, you don't want to be associated with hateful things as a brand.
98
- [428.36 --> 430.36] It's not good marketing, right?
99
- [430.36 --> 439.36] And secondly, and maybe not secondly, maybe this should always be first, but there's just the ethical issue of sponsoring and giving money to that kind of thing, right?
100
- [439.36 --> 440.36] That's no good.
101
- [440.36 --> 445.36] And this is not that different from like if you run a forum, you guys run a forum.
102
- [445.36 --> 446.36] Yeah.
103
- [446.36 --> 448.36] You get people who come in and post things.
104
- [448.36 --> 451.36] You know, they'll post links to terrible stuff.
105
- [451.36 --> 463.36] So I remember running the tech report, we've imposed limits on who can post what when so that we kind of get to know who somebody is, give them a little bit of time so they don't just come in and put junk in, right?
106
- [463.36 --> 465.36] A lot of it's just signal to noise ratio, right?
107
- [465.36 --> 466.36] You want to improve that.
108
- [466.36 --> 470.36] So here's the thing.
109
- [470.36 --> 481.36] The main argument that we heard back from our viewers was, well, the viewer should know the difference between the ad running in front of the video and the content that they're watching.
110
- [481.36 --> 483.36] Do you agree?
111
- [483.36 --> 487.36] I don't, I don't think.
112
- [487.36 --> 490.36] The viewer definitely should know, right?
113
- [490.36 --> 492.36] It's good for viewers to be smart.
114
- [492.36 --> 493.36] But at the same time.
115
- [493.36 --> 495.36] It's good for viewers to be smart.
116
- [495.36 --> 496.36] It's good for viewers to be smart.
117
- [496.36 --> 497.36] It's got lost in 2017.
118
- [497.36 --> 498.36] At the same time.
119
- [498.36 --> 501.36] No, I mean, you don't want to be associated with that.
120
- [501.36 --> 505.36] And they had to take some basic common sense steps.
121
- [505.36 --> 510.36] And it seems like that this type of threshold, a relatively small number of views is a common sense step to me.
122
- [510.36 --> 511.36] Right.
123
- [511.36 --> 512.36] Okay.
124
- [512.36 --> 513.36] Yeah.
125
- [513.36 --> 518.36] So anyway, basically, in response to this, YouTube is updating the partner program.
126
- [518.36 --> 520.36] So this is part of the measures that they're taking.
127
- [520.36 --> 525.36] To be clear, some of which I believe have been too far.
128
- [525.36 --> 540.36] There's been content that has had the advertising pulled from it that, remember, this could be the, you know, coming from where you come from as a website owner in the past who relied on advertising revenue.
129
- [540.36 --> 555.36] Can you imagine if you were falsely flagged as a hate website and Google pulled your AdSense or whatever partners you were working with just pulled the money with no negotiation, no warning, no nothing?
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- [555.36 --> 556.36] I mean, what would that mean for you?
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- [556.36 --> 557.36] Yeah.
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- [557.36 --> 558.36] No, it stinks.
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- [559.36 --> 566.36] And I actually don't have to imagine too much because we used to have that problem where people would post some random link in the forums and Google would come in and say, you guys are no good.
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- [566.36 --> 568.36] And they'd pull your ads for a while.
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- [568.36 --> 572.36] And, you know, there aren't a lot of people working behind those algorithms.
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- [572.36 --> 574.36] So it takes a while to get reinstated.
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- [574.36 --> 575.36] Right.
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- [575.36 --> 578.36] And so the revenue is gone until you can get them to bring it back.
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- [578.36 --> 580.36] And now he works at AMD.
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- [580.36 --> 582.36] So that should give you some idea what happens.
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- [582.36 --> 585.36] You could end up working at AMD.
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- [585.36 --> 586.36] So.
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- [586.36 --> 587.36] So.
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- [587.36 --> 592.36] So basically, though, in an.
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- [592.36 --> 593.36] Where was I going with this?
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- [593.36 --> 594.36] Right.
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- [594.36 --> 596.36] So that sucks.
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- [596.36 --> 606.36] But the reality of it is, is there's like however many hundreds of thousands of, you know, hours of footage uploaded to YouTube every minute or whatever those numbers work out to.
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- [606.36 --> 609.36] And the reality of it is they can't go through everything.
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- [609.36 --> 620.36] And when they're trying to respond to a bunch of brands pulling their funding, they have to over respond and then tweak the algorithm to whitelist things back in.
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- [620.36 --> 627.36] The good news, though, if you're a content creator and you're out there, is that you can appeal these strikes.
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- [627.36 --> 639.36] And from what I know about how YouTube's algorithmic machine learning works behind the scenes, my understanding, and I've heard of this happening, but I've never personally witnessed it.
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- [639.36 --> 655.36] But I've heard from creators who have heard from creators that for things like fair use, for example, if you're getting frequently flagged by algorithmic or automated copyright strikes and you appeal them many, many times, it learns.
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- [655.36 --> 658.36] It kind of learns who the bad'uns and the good'uns are.
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- [658.36 --> 665.36] So it would be a good idea probably to appeal any kinds of strikes that you've received or any demonetization.
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- [665.36 --> 670.36] One inconvenient thing is that we had to manually go through our videos and see which ones were demonetized.
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- [670.36 --> 672.36] It just happened.
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- [672.36 --> 675.36] I mean, would an email summary have killed you, YouTube?
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- [675.36 --> 682.36] Hey, by the way, we turned off all the money on these videos!
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- [682.36 --> 683.36] Thanks, guys.
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- [683.36 --> 684.36] Thanks, guys.
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- [684.36 --> 694.36] So effective immediately, YouTube will not allow ads on channels that have fewer than 10,000 lifetime views across all the videos on that channel.
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- [694.36 --> 696.36] And to be clear, this is a very low threshold.
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- [696.36 --> 702.36] You only need, like, one video to go nano-viral in order to get 10,000 views.
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- [702.36 --> 717.36] So what this pretty much means, though, is that most videos that are obscure and offensive enough to never really find much of an audience have no chance of having an advertiser placement on it.
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- [717.36 --> 731.36] It's also from just—this isn't in my notes, but purely from my perspective, this is great, because why are those guys getting ad inventory when established channels like us still don't have 100% fill rates?
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- [731.36 --> 734.36] I don't really understand that.
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- [734.36 --> 740.36] I mean, clearly, someone who's getting 42 views per video, this is not a source of revenue for them anyway.
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- [740.36 --> 752.36] Why are you putting an ad in front of the viewer potentially hampering that person's ability to grow on the platform and then not serving the ad to someone who actually is relying on the platform instead?
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- [752.36 --> 755.36] There is something to be said for that.
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- [755.36 --> 758.36] And remember, guys, we're talking 10,000 views.
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- [758.36 --> 763.36] Nobody is thinking about going YouTuber full-time before they have 10,000 views.
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- [763.36 --> 768.36] So I don't see this being significantly harmful to guys that are just starting out.
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- [768.36 --> 771.36] So that's my kind of two cents on that.
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- [771.36 --> 773.36] Oh, this is interesting.
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- [773.36 --> 779.36] It's also intended to block channels that steal content from other sources and prevent them from deriving revenue from the platform.
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- [779.36 --> 781.36] That's actually something we've seen a lot.
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- [781.36 --> 782.36] Yeah, it's a big problem.
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- [782.36 --> 783.36] Yeah.
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- [783.36 --> 792.36] Just these channels will pop up overnight, and they'll have 200 of our videos ripped and just retitled so that they look a little bit different.
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- [792.36 --> 806.36] And because our partner agreement doesn't allow us to automatically see those and get like a report for them, they just kind of sit there until one of our viewers contacts us and lets us know that they're there, and then we can get them ripped down.
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- [806.36 --> 815.36] But in the meantime, they're potentially collecting AdSense checks, and they can be very big ones, but still, it's ridiculous.
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- [815.36 --> 821.36] Well, involving this type of threshold, 10,000 views, also rules out a bunch of stuff, right?
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- [822.36 --> 829.36] And then once something comes over that, it's possible that Google could get human editors involved to vet some things, right, to make sure they're okay.
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- [829.36 --> 831.36] But this filters out a lot of noise.
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- [831.36 --> 835.36] They don't have to think about it if it's a really, really small number of views.
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- [836.36 --> 841.36] Wow, we've got a lot of stuff that's going to be kind of hard for you to comment on.
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- [841.36 --> 844.36] I didn't realize it was going to be quite so bad.
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- [844.36 --> 846.36] Yeah, the list is interesting.
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- [846.36 --> 847.36] We could try, though.
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- [848.36 --> 849.36] We could try.
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- [849.36 --> 856.36] We're just going to, this is going to, the entire rest of the WAN show is going to be the, what can Scott say?
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- [856.36 --> 860.36] Versus what can he not say?
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- [860.36 --> 863.36] So why don't we jump into Xbox Project Scorpio.
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- [863.36 --> 865.36] So the source here is Eurogamer.
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- [865.36 --> 867.36] Let's go ahead and pull that up.
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- [867.36 --> 873.36] But basically, there's specs, there's games, there's VR peripherals, backwards compatibility, basically,
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- [873.36 --> 878.36] everything that these guys know about Project Scorpio at this time.
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- [878.36 --> 884.36] I'm going to go ahead and drop that link in the Twitch chat if you guys want to get the more in-depth version of it later.
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- [884.36 --> 887.36] But, oh, no, I'm not going to be able to do that.
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- [887.36 --> 888.36] Long story.
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- [888.36 --> 892.36] But it'll be in the document on the forum a little bit later.
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- [892.36 --> 901.36] But in a nutshell, Project Scorpio is the much-rumored mid-generation upgrade to the Xbox One.
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- [901.36 --> 913.36] So what that means as a mid-generation upgrade is that all the games and peripherals that run on the Xbox One today, like, oh, for example, oh, oh, the Kinect.
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- [913.36 --> 916.36] It's exciting.
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- [916.36 --> 917.36] It's exciting.
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- [917.36 --> 919.36] I can feel excitement.
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- [919.36 --> 920.36] Oh, man.
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- [920.36 --> 922.36] The excitement is palpable, man.
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- [924.36 --> 931.36] Anyway, so other than VR games, there won't be any Project Scorpio exclusives.
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- [931.36 --> 934.36] So here's what we know so far spec-wise.
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- [934.36 --> 942.36] AMD got yet another design win because it wouldn't be much of a mid-cycle upgrade if it wasn't, you know, using pretty much the same processor.
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- [942.36 --> 956.36] So it'll have eight custom AMD cores clocked at 2.3 GHz, 326 GB per second of memory bandwidth, and 1172 MHz GPU with 40 customized compute units.
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- [956.36 --> 963.36] So let's ignore customization. What would 40 compute units kind of look like on the desktop on your side?
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- [963.36 --> 966.36] Okay, so an RX 480 is 36 compute units.
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- [966.36 --> 967.36] Okay.
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- [967.36 --> 970.36] So this is a little bit bigger than an RX 480 as a GPU.
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- [970.36 --> 984.36] Okay. An RX 480 powers a pretty darn good gaming experience at 1080 to 1440 high details, and you can even go 4K if you want to talk about, like, eSports-type titles.
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- [986.36 --> 989.36] No, no, I wasn't going to say, you know, for honor or whatever.
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- [989.36 --> 992.36] Right, not Deus Ex, mankind divided, but, yeah, some of those easier ones.
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- [995.36 --> 997.36] So it's got 12 gigs of GDDR5 memory.
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- [997.36 --> 999.36] Oh, wow, that's quite a lot more than before, isn't it?
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- [999.36 --> 1005.36] Yeah, and, you know, I'm just happy to see this is looking more like kind of a high-end PC.
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- [1006.36 --> 1012.36] You know, the history here is we kind of had this gap, like, Xbox 360 was like seven, eight years between Xbox 360 and Xbox One.
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- [1013.36 --> 1020.36] And when they came out with it, and before, like in the past, like when the 360 came out, it really rivaled the high-end PC.
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- [1022.36 --> 1023.36] PS3, too, actually.
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- [1023.36 --> 1024.36] Right, right. They did.
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- [1025.36 --> 1026.36] That thing was incredible.
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- [1026.36 --> 1032.36] As an old PC guy, the whole thing you always hear is the PC is going to die because the new consoles, there's always a panic.
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- [1032.36 --> 1033.36] It's always dying.
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- [1033.36 --> 1038.36] There was no panic around the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 when they first came out because they were kind of low in mid-range.
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- [1039.36 --> 1047.36] And it's kind of interesting now. We're seeing the re-upping more quickly to kind of get that additional power back because of things like VR happening.
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- [1048.36 --> 1052.36] And things like that. So I'm just happy to see a high-end spec on the new console.
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- [1052.36 --> 1063.36] Well, it's interesting you bring that up because when the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 launched, we did a piece comparing in every cross-platform, like three-way cross-platform game we could get our hands on.
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- [1063.36 --> 1069.36] So stuff like, I think it was Black Flag was the Assassin's Creed that launched with those. Is that right? Does that seem right?
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- [1069.36 --> 1070.36] Yeah, that seems right.
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- [1070.36 --> 1075.36] Black Flag, I think there was a COD of some sort or a battlefield of some sort. I can't remember. Whatever it was.
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- [1075.36 --> 1085.36] Anyway, what we did was we captured a whack ton of in-game cinematics, cut scenes, engine rendered cut scenes.
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- [1085.36 --> 1086.36] Right.
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- [1086.36 --> 1094.36] We captured a bunch of gameplay and we really looked close at what we were getting in terms of finished image quality.
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- [1094.36 --> 1098.36] You know, after weird upscaling tricks and all that kind of stuff.
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- [1098.36 --> 1104.36] And we're not talking like we took the still grabs and we put them in Photoshop and overlaid to find the differences.
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- [1104.36 --> 1107.36] But we were looking to kind of get pretty darn close.
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- [1107.36 --> 1120.36] And what we discovered was that to build a PC, bearing in mind you've got to buy a case and you've got to buy a power supply and all that, you know, a storage device, all that boring stuff that isn't a CPU and a GPU.
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- [1123.36 --> 1130.36] We found that we had to spend about 500 bucks to get pretty equivalent or 400 bucks to get pretty equivalent to those.
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- [1131.36 --> 1142.36] But that was about it. As soon as you stepped up past that, I think we ended up using a 260X was what we ended up putting in our equivalent PC system.
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- [1143.36 --> 1157.36] Whereas nowadays, if we're talking about a GPU in there that speculatively, obviously all Scott can talk about is how many compute units and what clock speed a 480 is, because that's why he's here to talk to me right now.
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- [1157.36 --> 1162.36] That's all we can talk about.
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- [1162.36 --> 1163.36] Excuse me.
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- [1163.36 --> 1169.36] But what we can say is that we just did a, where is it?
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- [1171.36 --> 1180.36] But we filmed a PC build guide earlier this week even that was targeting about $1,000 and contained an RX 480.
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- [1181.36 --> 1189.36] Just to give a better idea of what class of computer this new Xbox might look comparable to.
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- [1189.36 --> 1196.36] It's also going to have a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc support if you still watch movies off of physical media.
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- [1196.36 --> 1203.36] It'll support native 4K gaming, although, again, I wouldn't set my expectations too incredibly high.
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- [1203.36 --> 1213.36] And Scott doesn't have to say anything, but too incredibly high with respect to, you know, what kind of games at what kind of detail levels you're going to be running at full native 4K.
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- [1213.36 --> 1218.36] And it's going to have support for VR, which, you know, maybe you can talk a little bit about VR.
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- [1218.36 --> 1226.36] So the big news recently was that PSVR has sold how many more times more units than all the PC headsets combined?
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- [1226.36 --> 1228.36] Yeah, was it 4X or more?
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- [1228.36 --> 1229.36] Something like that.
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- [1229.36 --> 1230.36] I can't remember.
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- [1231.36 --> 1234.36] But how's that going?
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- [1234.36 --> 1237.36] Because there's, speaking of PC being dead, there's an awful lot of VR is dead.
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- [1237.36 --> 1239.36] What's AMD's perception of that?
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- [1239.36 --> 1243.36] I don't know about the whole company's perception, but I'll give you mine.
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- [1244.36 --> 1249.36] I have both the Vive and the Rift, and I've been enjoying them.
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- [1249.36 --> 1250.36] You're such a nerd, man.
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- [1250.36 --> 1251.36] Yeah, I am.
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- [1251.36 --> 1252.36] I am.
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- [1252.36 --> 1253.36] And I'm enjoying them.
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- [1253.36 --> 1259.36] And I've kind of been a little bit of a Rift fanboy because I like the tracking, the inside-out tracking on the Rift, and I like the rooms, or sorry, the Vive's fanboy.
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- [1259.36 --> 1261.36] I like the inside-out tracking on the Vive, I like the room scale.
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- [1261.36 --> 1262.36] Yeah, I love the room scale.
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- [1262.36 --> 1264.36] I think it's the right way to go.
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- [1264.36 --> 1266.36] Finally, Oculus, though, came out with Touch.
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- [1266.36 --> 1268.36] They've got experimental room scale.
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- [1268.36 --> 1269.36] They're doing the right things.
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- [1269.36 --> 1279.36] But the most important development in VR to me in the past while is the release of a game that Oculus has now as a pack-in for free with the Touch.
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- [1281.36 --> 1283.36] It's one of these that they funded the development.
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- [1283.36 --> 1284.36] Right.
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- [1284.36 --> 1289.36] That sweet, sweet Facebook money, they funded the development of a game that Epic built for them.
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- [1289.36 --> 1290.36] Right?
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- [1290.36 --> 1291.36] Right.
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- [1291.36 --> 1294.36] And Robo Recall is the best VR title by a long shot in my view.
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- [1294.36 --> 1297.36] I've been playing this every day, multiple times.
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- [1297.36 --> 1301.36] It's like my little workout every day because it is so, so good.
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- [1301.36 --> 1302.36] It is the feel.
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- [1302.36 --> 1303.36] It's a shooter.
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- [1303.36 --> 1304.36] I'm a shooter fan.
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- [1304.36 --> 1306.36] Love Borderlands, love that stuff.
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- [1306.36 --> 1308.36] The feel, they got it right.
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- [1308.36 --> 1310.36] So the touch, feel of the shooter, fantastic.
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- [1310.36 --> 1312.36] The action is really great.
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- [1312.36 --> 1318.36] And I think people who put on a Rift and play that game will spend money.
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- [1318.36 --> 1319.36] It will open up wallets.
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- [1319.36 --> 1321.36] It's one of those game cell systems.
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- [1322.36 --> 1323.36] Right?
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- [1323.36 --> 1324.36] And that is a huge thing.
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- [1324.36 --> 1327.36] And it's unfortunate because I haven't heard enough buzz around this game.
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- [1328.36 --> 1329.36] If you have the chance, try it.
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- [1329.36 --> 1330.36] I will.
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- [1330.36 --> 1334.36] If you're a skeptic about VR and you go try that, I think it will be converted.
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- [1334.36 --> 1341.36] And it's funny, it's software that turns out to be the thing that needed to happen in order to make the hardware sell.
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- [1341.36 --> 1346.36] But that's, you know, we've seen it millions of times in the past with new platforms.
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- [1347.36 --> 1353.36] On the subject of game selling systems, SteamOS.
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- [1353.36 --> 1359.36] That's a perfect example of how you can have a cool idea.
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- [1359.36 --> 1366.36] And even more than a cool idea, SteamOS actually made its way to the market as a finished product.
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- [1366.36 --> 1371.36] Not just as a software product, but you could actually buy a SteamOS gaming console.
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- [1371.36 --> 1372.36] We reviewed one.
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- [1372.36 --> 1388.36] The problem was that Valve, bless their open philosophy, didn't create a killer title to push that console into the market.
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- [1388.36 --> 1396.36] And it's pretty much, I haven't heard a thing about SteamOS pretty much since I published my thing declaring that it was dead when it launched.
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- [1397.36 --> 1399.36] So, okay.
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- [1399.36 --> 1410.36] So you think we need more games and that's why AMD is still really focused on VR, VR, VR in like the slides that we didn't look at today and all that kind of stuff.
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- [1410.36 --> 1412.36] I mean, VR is a focus.
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- [1412.36 --> 1418.36] If you're an enthusiast for this stuff, if you're into it and you've been playing with things, then you know it's still very exciting.
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- [1418.36 --> 1419.36] Right.
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- [1419.36 --> 1426.36] And if the games are there and it's exciting, eventually I think people will buy it.
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- [1426.36 --> 1430.36] The other thing that's happening that needs to continue happening is the price has to come down.
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- [1430.36 --> 1431.36] Right.
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- [1431.36 --> 1432.36] Right?
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- [1432.36 --> 1434.36] If PSVR is cheaper, that's probably one of the reasons they sold a lot.
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- [1434.36 --> 1435.36] So I've got those numbers.
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- [1435.36 --> 1443.36] They confirmed in, I think it was, it looks like February, that they had sold almost a million PSVR units so far.
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- [1443.36 --> 1451.36] And that was a little under double the reported numbers for the Rift and the Vive as of the end of 2016.
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- [1451.36 --> 1456.36] So that's all we, oh wait, yeah, no, no, okay.
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- [1456.36 --> 1458.36] So it depends on how we're calculating.
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- [1458.36 --> 1466.36] HTC would only confirm they've sold more than 140,000 while Superdata Research estimated 420,000 Vives.
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- [1466.36 --> 1469.36] So it really depends how we're calculating.
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- [1469.36 --> 1473.36] So it's somewhere between triple to just under double compared to those guys.
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- [1473.36 --> 1479.36] And at $400, that makes sense given that it's what, 600 for the Vive.
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- [1479.36 --> 1482.36] And then, man, is Rift still 600 plus Touch?
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- [1482.36 --> 1485.36] The Rift with Touch went to $598.
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- [1485.36 --> 1486.36] Did it go to $598?
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- [1486.36 --> 1489.36] But the Vive, I think, is still $799, right?
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- [1489.36 --> 1490.36] HTC Vive.
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- [1490.36 --> 1491.36] You know what?
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- [1491.36 --> 1494.36] I live in Canada and our currency is rupees.
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- [1494.36 --> 1495.36] Right.
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- [1495.36 --> 1502.36] So when I bought mine, it was like $950 or $900 or something like that.
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- [1502.36 --> 1508.36] So it's hard for me to comment on pricing sometimes.
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- [1508.36 --> 1509.36] I just lose track.
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- [1509.36 --> 1510.36] But I can look that up.
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- [1510.36 --> 1513.36] Anyway, so cool.
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- [1513.36 --> 1518.36] So Xbox Project Scorpio, VR, 4K, much faster.
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- [1518.36 --> 1525.36] Looking more like a $899,000 PC than a $399,000, $499 PC.
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- [1525.36 --> 1533.36] And what's cool is that developers won't necessarily have to use the extra processing power of Project Scorpio to hit 4K.
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- [1533.36 --> 1537.36] They could just channel that towards a better looking 1080p experience instead.
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- [1537.36 --> 1540.36] Which is what, if anyone's asking me, I would probably strongly recommend.
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- [1540.36 --> 1552.36] Because if you've seen my recent video before it got pulled down due to a copyright claim against it, which I still might dispute because it was definitely fair use.
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- [1552.36 --> 1555.36] Like definitely fair use of that footage from the movie.
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- [1555.36 --> 1565.36] But if you did see, I am really not that sold on 4K and what kind of a difference it makes at a living room distance.
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- [1565.36 --> 1566.36] How about you?
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- [1566.36 --> 1567.36] I bought a new TV.
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- [1567.36 --> 1568.36] As Scott Wasson, okay?
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- [1568.36 --> 1569.36] My TV died not long ago.
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- [1569.36 --> 1570.36] As Scott, not as AMD.
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- [1570.36 --> 1571.36] I'll tell you.
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- [1571.36 --> 1572.36] Okay, 4K in the living room.
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- [1572.36 --> 1574.36] My TV died not long ago.
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- [1574.36 --> 1575.36] Okay.
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- [1575.36 --> 1577.36] And it was like, upgrade opportunity here.
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- [1577.36 --> 1578.36] I've got to get a new TV.
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- [1578.36 --> 1579.36] Yes, TV's dead.
390
- [1579.36 --> 1583.36] And I looked around a little, and you can look up online, have you seen the little calculators?
391
- [1583.36 --> 1584.36] Yeah.
392
- [1584.36 --> 1588.36] How close to a TV you have to sit to notice the different resolutions?
393
- [1588.36 --> 1592.36] And like how large that TV then has to be?
394
- [1592.36 --> 1600.36] And it's like you'd have to have a chair like four feet from your TV in the middle of your living room to notice 4K, even with a pretty large panel.
395
- [1600.36 --> 1605.36] And I went out and I bought recently a 1080p panel instead.
396
- [1605.36 --> 1606.36] Really?
397
- [1606.36 --> 1607.36] I did.
398
- [1607.36 --> 1608.36] You bought a 1080p TV.
399
- [1608.36 --> 1612.36] Now, I'm going to regret it because of HDR and OLED and all that.
400
- [1612.36 --> 1613.36] Yeah.
401
- [1613.36 --> 1616.36] Except I don't regret it in the sense that my TV budget can go to that later.
402
- [1616.36 --> 1623.36] But there was no point in buying 4K for the distance that my couch is from the screen for the size of screen I had.
403
- [1623.36 --> 1624.36] Yeah.
404
- [1624.36 --> 1626.36] No, and I believe in better pixels.
405
- [1626.36 --> 1627.36] I like high refresh.
406
- [1627.36 --> 1629.36] I like high dynamic range.
407
- [1629.36 --> 1630.36] I like high color gamut.
408
- [1630.36 --> 1635.36] More than I want more pixels for a display that sits across the room.
409
- [1635.36 --> 1636.36] Okay.
410
- [1636.36 --> 1639.36] Now, tell me this.
411
- [1639.36 --> 1645.36] Maybe you don't know anything, which would probably be optimal because I'd love for you to be able to speculate.
412
- [1645.36 --> 1646.36] Okay.
413
- [1646.36 --> 1649.36] Are we ever going to get a gaming TV?
414
- [1649.36 --> 1650.36] So...
415
- [1650.36 --> 1651.36] Okay.
416
- [1651.36 --> 1653.36] I'm going to add more to my question.
417
- [1653.36 --> 1654.36] Right, right.
418
- [1654.36 --> 1655.36] Okay, okay.
419
- [1655.36 --> 1665.36] Because we've got technologies, like we've got amazingly fast processors now that are cheap enough that you can put them in a TV without killing the bomb cost.
420
- [1665.36 --> 1666.36] Right.
421
- [1666.36 --> 1673.36] Not that those didn't exist before and they couldn't have done that years ago and there's no reason for the menu navigation to have been clunky anyway.
422
- [1673.36 --> 1676.36] So we've got lightning fast processors.
423
- [1676.36 --> 1682.36] We've got OLED panels that are theoretically capable of refresh rates higher than 60 hertz.
424
- [1682.36 --> 1683.36] Yeah.
425
- [1683.36 --> 1693.36] For sure, we've got interfaces that are both widely available, well established, and also cheap to implement, like DisplayPort.
426
- [1693.36 --> 1697.36] When are we going to get a gaming TV? A proper one?
427
- [1697.36 --> 1698.36] Yeah.
428
- [1698.36 --> 1700.36] I don't know the answer.
429
- [1700.36 --> 1701.36] Right?
430
- [1701.36 --> 1702.36] Okay, well that's good.
431
- [1702.36 --> 1703.36] Maybe you can speculate.
432
- [1703.36 --> 1710.36] I can tell you that one thing that we've done that's kind of interesting recently is extend FreeSync support to HDMI.
433
- [1710.36 --> 1711.36] Oh, okay.
434
- [1711.36 --> 1712.36] Yeah.
435
- [1712.36 --> 1717.36] And so the consumer electronics folks, HDMI is their format, right?
436
- [1717.36 --> 1721.36] But variable refresh displays are a very, very nice thing to have for gaming.
437
- [1721.36 --> 1727.36] And so there's now the possibility, at least, of people building around that.
438
- [1727.36 --> 1729.36] That's all we're going to get, eh?
439
- [1729.36 --> 1731.36] Hey, I haven't tracked that.
440
- [1731.36 --> 1733.36] And it's, yeah.
441
- [1733.36 --> 1734.36] Tell me this.
442
- [1734.36 --> 1735.36] I'd love to give you good news.
443
- [1735.36 --> 1736.36] I can go and check.
444
- [1736.36 --> 1738.36] I can talk to our display guys, but I don't know what's happening.
445
- [1738.36 --> 1739.36] Okay.
446
- [1739.36 --> 1746.36] So if you have like, you know, 144, 165 hertz display with low persistence OLED gaming TV.
447
- [1746.36 --> 1747.36] Mm-hmm.
448
- [1747.36 --> 1748.36] What kind of a premium would you pay for that?
449
- [1748.36 --> 1749.36] Me?
450
- [1749.36 --> 1752.36] Oh, it would be a ridiculous premium, right?
451
- [1752.36 --> 1753.36] $400, $500 maybe?
452
- [1753.36 --> 1754.36] I don't know.
453
- [1754.36 --> 1758.36] If I'm in the, I mean, you're talking about an expensive TV already.
454
- [1758.36 --> 1759.36] Yeah, we're talking feature identity.
455
- [1759.36 --> 1760.36] Right.
456
- [1760.36 --> 1761.36] Right.
457
- [1761.36 --> 1762.36] Except for that.
458
- [1762.36 --> 1763.36] But I mean, because it's so rare.
459
- [1763.36 --> 1765.36] It's so rare, right?
460
- [1765.36 --> 1767.36] TVs often have high latency.
461
- [1767.36 --> 1768.36] I know, right?
462
- [1768.36 --> 1771.36] They know it'll have like a game mode button and you press it and nothing happens.
463
- [1771.36 --> 1773.36] Sometimes it doesn't even help.
464
- [1773.36 --> 1775.36] LG is notorious for this.
465
- [1775.36 --> 1776.36] I mean, I love LG.
466
- [1776.36 --> 1777.36] I really do.
467
- [1777.36 --> 1781.36] Got friends over at LG, but holy crap, your game mode doesn't work.
468
- [1781.36 --> 1785.36] And like, this is intentional.
469
- [1785.36 --> 1786.36] They know.
470
- [1786.36 --> 1788.36] I mean, it's not like they don't know.
471
- [1788.36 --> 1790.36] They have the tools to measure this stuff.
472
- [1790.36 --> 1791.36] They know.
473
- [1791.36 --> 1794.36] They were like, well, we didn't want to compromise on the image quality.
474
- [1794.36 --> 1797.36] Well, then don't have a game mode.
475
- [1797.36 --> 1799.36] Don't lie to me.
476
- [1799.36 --> 1802.36] Just tell me it's bad for games.
477
- [1802.36 --> 1804.36] But anyway.
478
- [1804.36 --> 1806.36] Yeah, somebody's going to do it, right?
479
- [1806.36 --> 1809.36] I mean, sure, these things are happening.
480
- [1809.36 --> 1816.36] I mean, 8K and hopefully high refresh, high color gamut, OLEDs, all these techs are going to be out there.
481
- [1816.36 --> 1823.36] It's just like you say, it's a small step from those technologies which are capable of high speed refresh.
482
- [1823.36 --> 1824.36] Right?
483
- [1824.36 --> 1828.36] It's a small step from that to having, and maybe it's not even fast processing.
484
- [1828.36 --> 1835.36] Maybe it's just turn off the post processing and let my input device send something out that's tone mapped for the display.
485
- [1835.36 --> 1836.36] Right.
486
- [1836.36 --> 1841.36] We're working on that with a thing called FreeSync 2 with HDR where it's like, okay, we'll tone mapped to your display.
487
- [1841.36 --> 1842.36] It comes right out.
488
- [1842.36 --> 1843.36] It's a low latency.
489
- [1843.36 --> 1845.36] It's for PC monitors primarily.
490
- [1845.36 --> 1846.36] Right.
491
- [1846.36 --> 1847.36] But the concept is simple, right?
492
- [1847.36 --> 1851.36] The GPU can know and do the right thing, and then the pictures right out.
493
- [1851.36 --> 1854.36] So you don't have that post processor in the way.
494
- [1854.36 --> 1859.36] Yeah, I would absolutely, I would just absolutely love to have that.
495
- [1859.36 --> 1860.36] You know what else I'd have?
496
- [1860.36 --> 1865.36] I'd absolutely love to have a show where we don't have to have sponsors, but you know how it is.
497
- [1865.36 --> 1867.36] We've got to pay the bills somehow.
498
- [1867.36 --> 1869.36] So I'm just going to go ahead and find my notes.
499
- [1869.36 --> 1875.36] Damn, I had one more thing I wanted to talk about, about the whole TV thing before I transitioned into this.
500
- [1875.36 --> 1881.36] It was something to do with, shoot.
501
- [1881.36 --> 1882.36] I was going to kind of jump in.
502
- [1882.36 --> 1886.36] It was directly related to what you were saying at the beginning of that bit.
503
- [1887.36 --> 1889.36] You do remember what that was by any chance?
504
- [1889.36 --> 1892.36] I don't remember what you were thinking.
505
- [1892.36 --> 1894.36] Bloody hell, I'm doomed.
506
- [1894.36 --> 1895.36] Doomed.
507
- [1895.36 --> 1897.36] Doomed to forever not remember what I was going to say.
508
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509
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530
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543
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544
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545
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546
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547
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548
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549
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550
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551
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552
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553
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- [2196.36 --> 2201.36] All right. So what else we got here today?
567
- [2201.36 --> 2207.36] Oh, this is absolutely killing me that I can't remember what that TV thing that I was trying to remember was.
568
- [2207.36 --> 2213.36] I'm dying here. Oh, okay. I did have a question.
569
- [2213.36 --> 2219.36] Okay. So FreeSync over HDMI. Right now, FreeSync support...
570
- [2219.36 --> 2224.36] Bye, Nick. Thank you for disrupting the show. Appreciate that. See ya.
571
- [2224.36 --> 2234.36] So FreeSync support doesn't require any special intervention on the display scaler side in a monitor.
572
- [2234.36 --> 2241.36] Basically, just new scalers are coming with support for the latest display port or whatever the case may be.
573
- [2241.36 --> 2243.36] And like, it's just kind of in there.
574
- [2243.36 --> 2250.36] Would you expect something like that to happen naturally on the TV side?
575
- [2251.36 --> 2254.36] So there are two different ecosystems there, right?
576
- [2254.36 --> 2258.36] Yeah. TVs are consumer electronics instead of PC.
577
- [2258.36 --> 2261.36] Consumer electronics has HDMI. PCs have display port.
578
- [2261.36 --> 2262.36] Yeah, but you support... There's a split.
579
- [2262.36 --> 2264.36] But you support FreeSync over HDMI, so...
580
- [2264.36 --> 2271.36] Sure. But if you're asking about it being natural, the natural thing is for the divide to continue.
581
- [2271.36 --> 2276.36] We may... Maybe we'll find a nice partnership and break that, but I don't think it would be natural.
582
- [2276.36 --> 2279.36] I think it would take a little bit of effort. Right?
583
- [2279.36 --> 2280.36] I... If there was...
584
- [2280.36 --> 2281.36] If you're asking the question, that's the answer.
585
- [2281.36 --> 2284.36] If there was anything that I could do to make that happen.
586
- [2284.36 --> 2287.36] I... I personally believe quite strongly in the...
587
- [2287.36 --> 2289.36] I remember what I was going to talk about.
588
- [2289.36 --> 2290.36] Right!
589
- [2290.36 --> 2292.36] I think they have to do this.
590
- [2292.36 --> 2298.36] So if anyone from LG or Samsung or Sharp, whatever, I don't care.
591
- [2298.36 --> 2301.36] Just... Physio, anybody, is watching this.
592
- [2301.36 --> 2304.36] Here's why I think they have to do this.
593
- [2304.36 --> 2307.36] 4K in the living room is...
594
- [2307.36 --> 2310.36] Eagle eyes only need apply.
595
- [2310.36 --> 2315.36] I think the benefit for a lot of people, considering the difficulty that Blu-ray even has...
596
- [2315.36 --> 2317.36] DVD still exists!
597
- [2317.36 --> 2322.36] And that looks a lot better than DVD.
598
- [2322.36 --> 2338.36] Considering that, 4K is going to have a hard time being the selling point that ultimately moves TVs, especially because the content is years and years away in big markets like the United States.
599
- [2338.36 --> 2345.36] I mean, when are you actually expecting to watch Sunday Night Football in 4K at 60 frames per second?
600
- [2345.36 --> 2347.36] Yeah, I don't know.
601
- [2347.36 --> 2348.36] Come on!
602
- [2348.36 --> 2349.36] Come on!
603
- [2349.36 --> 2354.36] So we don't need the resolution unless the screen size gets bigger.
604
- [2354.36 --> 2355.36] And I'll get back to that in a minute.
605
- [2355.36 --> 2356.36] HDR.
606
- [2356.36 --> 2362.36] HDR is another pretty tough selling point.
607
- [2362.36 --> 2370.36] Because unless the content is mastered very well, the difference side by side is noticeable.
608
- [2370.36 --> 2378.36] But the difference just walking into a room and being shown a piece of content and being immersed in a movie...
609
- [2378.36 --> 2382.36] Not so much, huh?
610
- [2382.36 --> 2383.36] It's tougher.
611
- [2383.36 --> 2384.36] It's a tougher sell.
612
- [2384.36 --> 2385.36] Yeah.
613
- [2385.36 --> 2392.36] Especially when you consider the fact that a lot of the difference in the way an HDR version of a movie...
614
- [2392.36 --> 2403.36] A lot of the difference between the regular Blu-ray version of the movie seems to be in the way that they've mastered it.
615
- [2403.36 --> 2408.36] Not necessarily just in the extra capabilities that HDR gives you.
616
- [2408.36 --> 2411.36] So for example, think about it this way.
617
- [2411.36 --> 2420.36] If HDR was really something that could not be captured on a display that can't display HDR...
618
- [2420.36 --> 2431.36] When we were filming side by side TVs running HDR and non-HDR content and marveling at how the HDR one had much more natural looking shadows.
619
- [2431.36 --> 2433.36] You could see so much more detail in the shadows.
620
- [2433.36 --> 2434.36] And you can see that on the screen.
621
- [2434.36 --> 2435.36] You kind of go, okay.
622
- [2435.36 --> 2445.36] So some of this is HDR and some of this is enabled by this wider color and this much, much wider contrast capability of the display.
623
- [2445.36 --> 2448.36] But some of it is also in the way that they master it.
624
- [2448.36 --> 2453.36] And I think right now I've only seen one movie that just blew me away.
625
- [2453.36 --> 2455.36] And that was Life of Pi.
626
- [2455.36 --> 2461.36] And we're a long way away from, I think, you know, every movie and every game having an HDR mode that's really meaningful.
627
- [2461.36 --> 2466.36] So Deus Ex Mankind Divided is another game that I've played with and without HDR.
628
- [2466.36 --> 2467.36] Yeah.
629
- [2467.36 --> 2470.36] And for me, same thing.
630
- [2470.36 --> 2474.36] If I looked at them side by side, I'd pick out the HDR one and I'd go, that's better.
631
- [2474.36 --> 2477.36] If I didn't see them side by side.
632
- [2477.36 --> 2478.36] You wouldn't notice.
633
- [2478.36 --> 2480.36] I probably wouldn't notice.
634
- [2480.36 --> 2481.36] Right.
635
- [2481.36 --> 2485.36] Or like if you asked me which one's HDR, I could probably tell you.
636
- [2485.36 --> 2494.36] But I wouldn't sit down in front of some game and sit and play and enjoy a game and go, wow, this is sure enhancing my gaming experience.
637
- [2494.36 --> 2495.36] Right.
638
- [2495.36 --> 2503.36] So that leaves us with this sort of, and this is something the TV industry has struggled with for quite some time.
639
- [2503.36 --> 2506.36] How do we drive up ASPs?
640
- [2506.36 --> 2510.36] How do we keep from just being a 399 device?
641
- [2510.36 --> 2511.36] Commodity.
642
- [2511.36 --> 2512.36] Commodity device.
643
- [2512.36 --> 2515.36] And you can't make them bigger anymore.
644
- [2515.36 --> 2526.36] It's gotten to the point where they are as big as they can practically be until we're talking about holographic displays, in my opinion, because they're not transportable.
645
- [2526.36 --> 2527.36] Yeah.
646
- [2527.36 --> 2528.36] Yeah.
647
- [2528.36 --> 2529.36] No, I see.
648
- [2529.36 --> 2530.36] Yeah.
649
- [2530.36 --> 2531.36] I know what you're saying.
650
- [2531.36 --> 2533.36] Bring us a gaming display.
651
- [2533.36 --> 2534.36] That's my argument.
652
- [2534.36 --> 2536.36] That's a good argument.
653
- [2536.36 --> 2538.36] Can we talk a little bit about the whole thing though?
654
- [2538.36 --> 2541.36] Because I think there's a path to success for some of this.
655
- [2541.36 --> 2542.36] Yeah.
656
- [2542.36 --> 2543.36] Right?
657
- [2543.36 --> 2549.36] One of the, it seems like what the Consumer Electronics guys are doing with the next generation of stuff is they're packaging up several things together.
658
- [2549.36 --> 2550.36] 4K.
659
- [2550.36 --> 2551.36] Yeah.
660
- [2551.36 --> 2552.36] High dynamic range.
661
- [2552.36 --> 2553.36] Yeah.
662
- [2553.36 --> 2556.36] Which is, you know, more contrast between light and dark, more steps in between.
663
- [2556.36 --> 2557.36] Yeah.
664
- [2557.36 --> 2558.36] And then wide color gamut.
665
- [2558.36 --> 2559.36] Yep.
666
- [2559.36 --> 2561.36] Which is actually in some ways more exciting for me.
667
- [2561.36 --> 2567.36] If you've ever like tried to take a picture of the sunset with a digital camera and you don't get the colors, right?
668
- [2567.36 --> 2569.36] Your color gamut is not wide enough.
669
- [2569.36 --> 2570.36] Yeah.
670
- [2570.36 --> 2573.36] And I actually, there's a wide gamut camera and display on the iPhone 7.
671
- [2573.36 --> 2575.36] My son has a OnePlus 3.
672
- [2575.36 --> 2578.36] We go out and we both take pictures of the same sunset.
673
- [2578.36 --> 2580.36] Wide gamut is way better.
674
- [2580.36 --> 2582.36] You kind of joke around about it.
675
- [2582.36 --> 2584.36] And that's not even as wide as you can go.
676
- [2584.36 --> 2585.36] Joke's on you.
677
- [2585.36 --> 2586.36] He paid half as much for his phone.
678
- [2586.36 --> 2587.36] He did.
679
- [2587.36 --> 2590.36] And I like that sunset picture.
680
- [2590.36 --> 2593.36] I don't know if I like it, you know, $400, but I like the picture.
681
- [2593.36 --> 2594.36] Sure.
682
- [2594.36 --> 2613.36] But I have seen, I think one of the problems we have right now in the ecosystem is getting the content and the tone mapping to the particular displays and their capabilities all set up so you have this really robust content that takes advantage of all the capabilities of the display and then it's properly mapped to what the individual displays can do.
683
- [2613.36 --> 2614.36] Yeah.
684
- [2614.36 --> 2615.36] And it's going to be really hard to do that.
685
- [2615.36 --> 2617.36] It is, but these things are being worked out.
686
- [2617.36 --> 2624.36] We had a demo that we ran in a couple of our trade show booths that was at the LG where they went and they filmed the video.
687
- [2624.36 --> 2629.36] They did the tone mapping for their display and they're showing this loop.
688
- [2629.36 --> 2630.36] Yeah.
689
- [2630.36 --> 2633.36] And it was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen on an electronic screen.
690
- [2633.36 --> 2634.36] It was amazing.
691
- [2634.36 --> 2635.36] Right.
692
- [2635.36 --> 2636.36] And the potential is there.
693
- [2636.36 --> 2649.36] And I think that although I really do have more affinity for HDR and wide gamut than for more pixels, I think the 4K is going to be part of the package when they figure all this stuff out.
694
- [2649.36 --> 2650.36] Games though.
695
- [2650.36 --> 2651.36] Can we talk about games?
696
- [2651.36 --> 2652.36] Yeah, let's talk about games.
697
- [2652.36 --> 2658.36] So games, there's sort of a first step and then a second step toward HDR for gaming.
698
- [2658.36 --> 2659.36] Right.
699
- [2659.36 --> 2660.36] So the first step is basically this.
700
- [2660.36 --> 2662.36] Half-Life, Lost Coast.
701
- [2662.36 --> 2665.36] Well, yeah, we did HDR way back when.
702
- [2665.36 --> 2666.36] Okay, there's three steps.
703
- [2666.36 --> 2667.36] Right.
704
- [2667.36 --> 2672.36] But that was internal high dynamic range rendering mapping to a non-high dynamic range display.
705
- [2672.36 --> 2673.36] Yeah.
706
- [2673.36 --> 2679.36] Now, what we can do now is we have displays that really can show you more range and more contrast and more colors.
707
- [2679.36 --> 2687.36] And if you look at like a DirectX 11 GPU, they're using 32-bit floating point color format for red, green, blue, alpha.
708
- [2687.36 --> 2688.36] Sure.
709
- [2688.36 --> 2690.36] That's a ton of internal precision.
710
- [2690.36 --> 2701.36] So all a game developer really has to do is take the beautiful lighting that they have in their engine, all the data they're putting up that's high fidelity, and tone map to the capability of the display properly.
711
- [2701.36 --> 2702.36] Sure.
712
- [2702.36 --> 2704.36] And you should get a nice result.
713
- [2704.36 --> 2705.36] Right?
714
- [2705.36 --> 2709.36] But we're still working on getting that done.
715
- [2709.36 --> 2718.36] But some of that, some of what happens when you do that is you may be revealing like the limitations of the source textures and content.
716
- [2718.36 --> 2719.36] Right.
717
- [2719.36 --> 2720.36] Interesting.
718
- [2720.36 --> 2735.36] So in the long run, the entire tool chain for the game developer from when they're building their textures through the shaders that they're using to render and all their lighting, everything out to the display needs to be end-to-end high dynamic range, high color gamut, all of that.
719
- [2735.36 --> 2736.36] And that's a longer road.
720
- [2736.36 --> 2739.36] It takes, what, three, four years to build a AAA game?
721
- [2739.36 --> 2741.36] And the tools have to change first.
722
- [2741.36 --> 2751.36] So you're talking something kind of along the lines of how the Hollywood makeup industry got revitalized by the move to HD.
723
- [2751.36 --> 2760.36] How in SD, basically effects were getting kind of good enough and you could kind of fudge it well enough.
724
- [2760.36 --> 2761.36] Right.
725
- [2761.36 --> 2767.36] But then as soon as we went HD, all these imperfections were totally visible and for a period anyway.
726
- [2767.36 --> 2768.36] Yeah.
727
- [2768.36 --> 2771.36] So we had to go back to real props, real makeup.
728
- [2771.36 --> 2781.36] And, you know, maybe we're seeing, I mean, you saw, you saw, I mean, spoiler alert, I guess Rogue One, if you haven't seen it.
729
- [2781.36 --> 2783.36] So there you go.
730
- [2783.36 --> 2785.36] But I mean, you saw Leia at the end, right?
731
- [2785.36 --> 2786.36] Yeah.
732
- [2786.36 --> 2788.36] Nah, the uncanny valley was real.
733
- [2788.36 --> 2789.36] The uncanny valley was real.
734
- [2789.36 --> 2790.36] It was real.
735
- [2790.36 --> 2793.36] But it looked pretty, pretty close.
736
- [2793.36 --> 2797.36] They, they're getting, maybe they're kind of starting to come back up toward the other side of the valley a little bit.
737
- [2797.36 --> 2798.36] It was a little creepy.
738
- [2798.36 --> 2799.36] It still freaked me out.
739
- [2799.36 --> 2801.36] She kind of looked like a sex doll.
740
- [2801.36 --> 2805.36] Like, you know how they, they're made with these super realistic features and they're just like.
741
- [2805.36 --> 2810.36] I feel like the different parts of her face at the end didn't move together in the right way.
742
- [2810.36 --> 2811.36] It kind of, eh.
743
- [2811.36 --> 2812.36] Anyway.
744
- [2812.36 --> 2817.36] But yeah, the, the, the source content also has to get better in the long run.
745
- [2817.36 --> 2818.36] Yeah.
746
- [2818.36 --> 2820.36] Like, it can be good now.
747
- [2820.36 --> 2821.36] Yeah.
748
- [2821.36 --> 2822.36] The point is every part of the chain.
749
- [2822.36 --> 2823.36] Yeah.
750
- [2823.36 --> 2824.36] Right.
751
- [2824.36 --> 2825.36] Yeah.
752
- [2825.36 --> 2826.36] Okay.
753
- [2826.36 --> 2827.36] All right.
754
- [2827.36 --> 2829.36] So I can't ignore this any longer.
755
- [2829.36 --> 2832.36] The original article, let's go with the, let's go with the one from Anantek.
756
- [2832.36 --> 2835.36] NVIDIA announces the Titan XP.
757
- [2835.36 --> 2838.36] Isn't that like an old story?
758
- [2838.36 --> 2842.36] Fully enabled GP 102 for $1,200.
759
- [2842.36 --> 2856.36] So basically they released the 1080 Ti, crapped on the owners of the Titan XP, which is what we were calling the new Titan X, but they never called it that.
760
- [2856.36 --> 2861.36] Then, like a week or two later, however long it, maybe it's more than that.
761
- [2861.36 --> 2862.36] Ah, time flies.
762
- [2862.36 --> 2869.36] Anyway, a few weeks later, they're, they're crapping on people who were like, yes, the 1080 Ti is the fastest card on the market.
763
- [2869.36 --> 2880.36] Um, and, uh, now they're releasing a new card and crapping on me at the same time because I'm gonna, I'm, I don't know what to call this thing.
764
- [2880.36 --> 2892.36] I've been running around calling the, the second coming of the Titan X, the Titan XP since it launched because it was the Titan XP for Pascal.
765
- [2892.36 --> 2894.36] And now they have a Titan XP.
766
- [2894.36 --> 2897.36] So there's really only one solution.
767
- [2897.36 --> 2900.36] This will be the Titan XP.
768
- [2900.36 --> 2903.36] Or the Titan XP, if you'd prefer.
769
- [2903.36 --> 2908.36] GPU performance compared to the Maxwell Titan X.
770
- [2908.36 --> 2911.36] Why are they, why are we even reporting on this?
771
- [2911.36 --> 2912.36] What?
772
- [2912.36 --> 2913.36] Don't ask me, dude.
773
- [2913.36 --> 2920.36] Is improved by 84 per, why would we even compare to the, like the, what?
774
- [2920.36 --> 2929.36] Okay, anyway, compared to the 1080 Ti, 13% more memory bandwidth, 7% more shader texture geometry throughput, and 9% more ROP throughput.
775
- [2929.36 --> 2931.36] And it costs about, what, double, I guess?
776
- [2931.36 --> 2932.36] So there you go.
777
- [2932.36 --> 2935.36] Titans are still expensive and they're still really fast.
778
- [2935.36 --> 2937.36] Apple.
779
- [2937.36 --> 2938.36] Apple.
780
- [2938.36 --> 2945.36] Rumored to begin making their own GPUs.
781
- [2945.36 --> 2949.36] So the original article here is from Wired.
782
- [2949.36 --> 2967.36] And this is potentially a pretty freaking interesting development because it is absolutely no secret that Apple believes in building its own IP wherever possible.
783
- [2967.36 --> 2970.36] And I'm not talking 192.168.something.
784
- [2970.36 --> 2977.36] I'm talking intellectual property and they basically want to own pretty much anything that's important to them.
785
- [2977.36 --> 2989.36] And power consumption and performance of their biggest money making device, the iPhone, is definitely something that is important to them.
786
- [2989.36 --> 2992.36] So they have announced, sorry, did I say rumor?
787
- [2992.36 --> 2993.36] Sorry.
788
- [2993.36 --> 3001.36] They have announced they will no longer be using their long time GPU partner, Imagination, for new products 15 to 24 months from now.
789
- [3001.36 --> 3007.36] So by that time we're probably talking, what would that be, iPhone 8S?
790
- [3007.36 --> 3008.36] Yeah.
791
- [3008.36 --> 3009.36] I guess?
792
- [3009.36 --> 3010.36] Yeah.
793
- [3010.36 --> 3018.36] They are replacing their GPU with a separate independent graphics design built in-house.
794
- [3018.36 --> 3030.36] Imagine doubts that Apple will be able to make their own GPUs without violating their patents intellectual property and confidential information.
795
- [3030.36 --> 3034.36] So this looks like it might not be an entirely clean breakup.
796
- [3034.36 --> 3046.36] And AMD has certainly got a fair amount of experience with other companies running around trying to make GPUs and sometimes probably not even intentionally infringing on patents.
797
- [3046.36 --> 3051.36] Because whether your name is AMD or Radeon Technologies Group, I'm sorry, Radeon Technologies Group.
798
- [3051.36 --> 3054.36] It's all part of the same thing, dude.
799
- [3054.36 --> 3066.36] So whether your name is AMD or whether your name is NVIDIA or even Intel, you own a lot, a lot of freaking IP when it comes to graphics technology.
800
- [3066.36 --> 3082.36] And it has gotten to the point where even if you had an unlimited amount of money and unlimited engineers and a fab, it would be pretty difficult to run out and compete with the RX 480 from the ground up.
801
- [3082.36 --> 3083.36] Would you agree with that statement?
802
- [3083.36 --> 3084.36] Yeah, yeah.
803
- [3084.36 --> 3085.36] No, it's a tough thing to do.
804
- [3085.36 --> 3088.36] But, yeah, Apple has all the money.
805
- [3088.36 --> 3090.36] But even with all the money.
806
- [3090.36 --> 3091.36] Well, but you know what?
807
- [3091.36 --> 3093.36] Look at what they did on the CPU side.
808
- [3093.36 --> 3094.36] That's true.
809
- [3094.36 --> 3095.36] Right?
810
- [3095.36 --> 3101.36] I mean, their CPU design team produced some pretty amazing low power CPU cores with really nice performance.
811
- [3101.36 --> 3106.36] And this is sort of the next step in that progression in a way.
812
- [3106.36 --> 3109.36] They had more of a good relationship with ARM.
813
- [3109.36 --> 3111.36] They continued to license their instruction set.
814
- [3111.36 --> 3114.36] This is removing away from your stuff entirely.
815
- [3114.36 --> 3115.36] This is a big middle finger.
816
- [3115.36 --> 3116.36] Right.
817
- [3116.36 --> 3119.36] 15 to 24 months before they're even ready to ship anything.
818
- [3119.36 --> 3123.36] But it's not the same with graphics because with graphics you use an API to get to the hardware.
819
- [3123.36 --> 3124.36] Right.
820
- [3124.36 --> 3129.36] So you don't have necessarily a low level instruction set that you're using.
821
- [3129.36 --> 3132.36] You're using OpenGL or Metal or Vulkan or whatever it is.
822
- [3132.36 --> 3133.36] Probably Metal.
823
- [3133.36 --> 3136.36] Well, that's definitely Apple's low level API.
824
- [3136.36 --> 3137.36] Right.
825
- [3137.36 --> 3141.36] So I can see how this makes sense.
826
- [3141.36 --> 3143.36] And they build some really great stuff.
827
- [3143.36 --> 3145.36] I got to respect the hardware they build.
828
- [3145.36 --> 3149.36] So I can see them doing this and making it work.
829
- [3149.36 --> 3150.36] Very interesting.
830
- [3150.36 --> 3155.36] So some of the questions brought up in the article is, well, why would Apple need to make their own GPU?
831
- [3155.36 --> 3164.36] And the answer is lagging behind competitors in GPU heavy tasks such as their digital assistant, machine learning and augmented and virtual reality.
832
- [3164.36 --> 3175.36] So Imagination Technologies stock has crashed since the announcement, since about half of the company's annual revenue came from Apple.
833
- [3175.36 --> 3177.36] I mean, this has been rumored forever.
834
- [3177.36 --> 3181.36] Do you see Apple pulling this on a MacBook?
835
- [3181.36 --> 3182.36] I mean, this isn't a MacBook.
836
- [3182.36 --> 3183.36] It's a laptop.
837
- [3183.36 --> 3184.36] It's for illustrative purposes only.
838
- [3184.36 --> 3187.36] But do you see Apple trying to pull this on the MacBook?
839
- [3187.36 --> 3190.36] It's been rumored forever that they want to get Intel out of there.
840
- [3190.36 --> 3205.36] And I mean, I would assume it's not that far off for if they're going to replace x86 with their own ARM-based CPUs that they might also just go, okay, yeah, well, screw it.
841
- [3205.36 --> 3208.36] Everything's an iPad with a keyboard now.
842
- [3208.36 --> 3211.36] So, you know, let's throw our Apple GPU in here.
843
- [3211.36 --> 3212.36] Yeah.
844
- [3212.36 --> 3214.36] I have no idea what they're going to do.
845
- [3214.36 --> 3215.36] Right.
846
- [3215.36 --> 3221.36] I mean, we've been talking about them going to ARM for their CPUs forever, and they seem to have never done that, you know.
847
- [3221.36 --> 3225.36] So if you keep predicting that, maybe at some point you get to be right.
848
- [3225.36 --> 3228.36] But I mean, I don't know.
849
- [3228.36 --> 3229.36] I don't know.
850
- [3229.36 --> 3231.36] This seems like they get to do what they want.
851
- [3231.36 --> 3232.36] They make great stuff.
852
- [3232.36 --> 3236.36] And other than that, man, I can't speculate.
853
- [3236.36 --> 3243.36] I'm going to keep predicting that they're going to bring back a desktop that you can actually upgrade until it happens.
854
- [3243.36 --> 3245.36] What do you think?
855
- [3245.36 --> 3246.36] Is my prediction going to work?
856
- [3246.36 --> 3247.36] I don't know.
857
- [3247.36 --> 3249.36] I like desktops that you can upgrade.
858
- [3249.36 --> 3251.36] I like to build my own system, though.
859
- [3251.36 --> 3253.36] So probably not the target market there.
860
- [3253.36 --> 3273.36] On the subject of upgrading a Mac desktop, NVIDIA to release Pascal drivers for Mac OS, which is a surprising announcement since Apple's desktops since 2013 have been AMD Fire Pro exclusive.
861
- [3273.36 --> 3277.36] Or I guess you guys call those...
862
- [3277.36 --> 3278.36] Radeon Pro.
863
- [3278.36 --> 3279.36] Yeah, Radeon Pro.
864
- [3279.36 --> 3280.36] Thank you.
865
- [3280.36 --> 3293.36] Anyway, but AMD exclusive since launch, and that used kind of a weird format for the card that you weren't just going to be able to, like, grab some GPU out of a laptop and shunk it in there.
866
- [3293.36 --> 3297.36] And then on the laptop side, they've been AMD exclusive for...
867
- [3297.36 --> 3300.36] How long now?
868
- [3300.36 --> 3302.36] I don't know.
869
- [3302.36 --> 3303.36] I don't know.
870
- [3303.36 --> 3304.36] Honestly.
871
- [3304.36 --> 3305.36] Years.
872
- [3305.36 --> 3308.36] Wasn't it ever since the 8600 GT, like, fell apart?
873
- [3308.36 --> 3309.36] Yeah.
874
- [3309.36 --> 3310.36] I'm really not sure.
875
- [3310.36 --> 3313.36] I think it was 9600 maybe.
876
- [3313.36 --> 3315.36] It was back in that era.
877
- [3315.36 --> 3317.36] Yeah.
878
- [3317.36 --> 3320.36] It's been a long time.
879
- [3320.36 --> 3331.36] So, given that you can't put an NVIDIA card in a Mac, this is a weird announcement.
880
- [3331.36 --> 3333.36] But it might be cool for certain folks.
881
- [3333.36 --> 3335.36] So, who are these drivers for?
882
- [3335.36 --> 3342.36] Within the Mac community, there's a small but vocal user group based around unsupported external GPUs.
883
- [3342.36 --> 3352.36] So, while Mac OS doesn't support external GPUs, it is possible to use Macs with a Thunderbolt EGFX chassis.
884
- [3352.36 --> 3364.36] It's also possible, though not supported and definitely against the terms of service of OS X, to install Mac OS on a custom-built PC.
885
- [3364.36 --> 3365.36] It's called Hackintosh-ing.
886
- [3365.36 --> 3367.36] We've done a video on it in the past.
887
- [3367.36 --> 3370.36] So, wow.
888
- [3370.36 --> 3378.36] Could this be the start of some kind of a push from NVIDIA to encourage Apple to consider their GPUs in the future?
889
- [3378.36 --> 3386.36] Is it just a big middle finger to Apple for not giving users the capability to install their GPUs?
890
- [3386.36 --> 3396.36] Is it a way of supporting the Hackintosh community without overtly saying, you know, go buy a Hackintosh and put our GPU in it?
891
- [3396.36 --> 3399.36] They just kind of quietly release a driver?
892
- [3399.36 --> 3404.36] You know, now that I think about it, if I had to guess, I'd say it's probably the big middle finger.
893
- [3404.36 --> 3408.36] Because, I mean, I'm sure you can speak to this at least.
894
- [3408.36 --> 3410.36] It's a fair bit of work to develop a driver.
895
- [3410.36 --> 3411.36] Yes.
896
- [3411.36 --> 3412.36] There you go.
897
- [3412.36 --> 3415.36] Yes, that's my comment.
898
- [3415.36 --> 3430.36] So, this driver probably is, if you had to guess, is probably a political statement more than a practical investment into selling GPUs to the handful of people running external PCIe boxes.
899
- [3430.36 --> 3434.36] Man, I can't comment on that at all.
900
- [3434.36 --> 3440.36] They'd put me in a can and shoot me into the sun if I talk about that.
901
- [3440.36 --> 3442.36] All right.
902
- [3442.36 --> 3445.36] Let's see what else we've got here.
903
- [3445.36 --> 3450.36] Actually, we've talked about a lot of the really big stuff.
904
- [3450.36 --> 3452.36] Oh, no, this is pretty big.
905
- [3452.36 --> 3453.36] Okay.
906
- [3453.36 --> 3464.36] So, Google and Facebook, around the time that one Mr. Donald J. Trump was elected President of the Free United States of America,
907
- [3464.36 --> 3484.36] Google and Facebook were both engaged in a very earnest discussion industry-wide about fake articles that were running around claiming to be news.
908
- [3484.36 --> 3490.36] And to be clear, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm staying out of it today anyway.
909
- [3490.36 --> 3506.36] I'm staying out of it today and I will say this, that both sides, right and left, participated in the whole fake news echo chamber nonsense.
910
- [3506.36 --> 3507.36] Okay.
911
- [3507.36 --> 3509.36] There is no such thing.
912
- [3509.36 --> 3522.36] And this is, this is probably one of the closest things to, to an impartial, you know, journalistic approach to writing anything that I've ever had the pleasure of, you know, actually engaging with.
913
- [3522.36 --> 3527.36] And would you agree that it is impossible to have zero bias?
914
- [3527.36 --> 3528.36] Yeah.
915
- [3528.36 --> 3529.36] Yeah.
916
- [3529.36 --> 3532.36] And, and that's why this whole discussion seems weird to me.
917
- [3532.36 --> 3533.36] Right.
918
- [3533.36 --> 3537.36] And, and I, I never heard of fake news until after the election.
919
- [3537.36 --> 3538.36] Right.
920
- [3538.36 --> 3540.36] And then all of a sudden it was a thing that we were all going to fix.
921
- [3540.36 --> 3547.36] Like, like if you solve that problem, then maybe if you didn't like the election outcome, then, then that would fix it.
922
- [3547.36 --> 3553.36] And it seems like you, like, have you like, look, I don't, I didn't like either one of our choices in the last election.
923
- [3553.36 --> 3554.36] Yeah.
924
- [3554.36 --> 3556.36] But have you seen Hillary Clinton speak?
925
- [3556.36 --> 3559.36] Cause I don't think the problem with her candidacy was fake news.
926
- [3559.36 --> 3562.36] Like it might've been the charisma black hole.
927
- [3562.36 --> 3565.36] I'm just saying.
928
- [3565.36 --> 3566.36] I'm Canadian.
929
- [3566.36 --> 3569.36] I didn't even have to pretend to make a choice.
930
- [3569.36 --> 3574.36] So it's, I didn't envy y'all down there, you know, do an American choice making.
931
- [3574.36 --> 3577.36] It was not a happy thing to go into that voting booth.
932
- [3577.36 --> 3581.36] Let me tell you, but, but I, this, this doesn't seem like a fix for anything.
933
- [3581.36 --> 3598.36] But you know what I agree with, I agree with your, with your observation in that I had heard of the whole fake news thing, but I hadn't seen Hillary Clinton specifically complain about it and say it is a problem we need to solve until after the results came in.
934
- [3598.36 --> 3599.36] Yeah.
935
- [3599.36 --> 3605.36] And if you really felt that way about it, then it should have been the kind of thing that you were talking about in earnest.
936
- [3605.36 --> 3611.36] It might've been mentioned, not sure, but it should have been talked about in earnest before the results.
937
- [3611.36 --> 3623.36] Um, and part of that could have just been hubris, you know, it could have just been, you know, the assumption that none of this even is important compared to other things because this is a, the election's a foregone conclusion anyway.
938
- [3623.36 --> 3628.36] Um, but it still comes across a little insincere when you complain about it after the fact.
939
- [3628.36 --> 3644.36] So anyway, I do agree that something needs to be done, but I don't know if our benevolent overlords at Google and Facebook are necessarily the ones that I would choose.
940
- [3644.36 --> 3673.36] But like it or not, they are the gatekeepers to the information that a huge chunk of the world, not just America needs and like it or not, whether they like it or not, they are in this position where they've determined that they have a responsibility to filter or otherwise protect people from fake news.
941
- [3674.36 --> 3691.36] So the original article here for the Google bit, and, um, this is off arstechnica.com, I love this site, is Google expands their automatic fact check insertion into search results.
942
- [3691.36 --> 3696.36] Um, though you'll want to phrase your searches very carefully to trigger it, the article warns us.
943
- [3696.36 --> 3703.36] So basically, they've officially rolled out an automatic fact check tag program on their search pages.
944
- [3703.36 --> 3715.36] So small snippets will display information about the claim made by a particular page, and who made the claim, as well as the results of fact checking on the highlighted claim.
945
- [3715.36 --> 3722.36] You will only see this if you specifically type in an oft repeated claim.
946
- [3722.36 --> 3728.36] For example, if you search for the phrase, how many undocumented immigrants are in the United States?
947
- [3728.36 --> 3732.36] Normal search results appear with a mix of answers and data points.
948
- [3732.36 --> 3749.36] But specifically searching 34 million undocumented immigrants will bring up a fact check box that credits President Donald Trump with the claim, along with a direct link to PolitiFact's pants on fire fact checked rating.
949
- [3749.36 --> 3768.36] So the fact checks, to be clear, are not performed by Google, which absolves Google of responsibility, sort of, except that they're also presenting this as fact check, which has a pretty specific meaning in the dictionary.
950
- [3768.36 --> 3780.36] And they're using trusted publishers and fact checkers using an open system to mark claims as having been checked and the service has been rolled out worldwide.
951
- [3780.36 --> 3781.36] Any thoughts?
952
- [3781.36 --> 3782.36] Any thoughts?
953
- [3782.36 --> 3783.36] So a couple of them.
954
- [3783.36 --> 3788.36] We just sort of established, I think, that we kind of agreed that it's very hard not to be biased.
955
- [3788.36 --> 3794.36] PolitiFact maybe falls into that category, too.
956
- [3794.36 --> 3798.36] I'm not sure that they're always a great source.
957
- [3798.36 --> 3802.36] I think that they may have sometimes their own political agenda.
958
- [3802.36 --> 3805.36] And so putting them out there as an authority?
959
- [3805.36 --> 3807.36] I don't know.
960
- [3807.36 --> 3812.36] Another thing about this that is interesting to me, and I'd be interested to hear what you think.
961
- [3812.36 --> 3826.36] I think one of the things that has happened with Google and Facebook being these sort of gatekeepers to the internet is that it has become difficult for content creators to make money off of web publishing and things like this.
962
- [3826.36 --> 3831.36] Which is why now we have the New York Times running clickbait headlines.
963
- [3831.36 --> 3832.36] Yeah.
964
- [3832.36 --> 3834.36] Which is a crazy media world now, right?
965
- [3834.36 --> 3835.36] It's crazy.
966
- [3835.36 --> 3845.36] And so I think Google and Facebook bear some responsibility for the situation as it now exists because they seem to take a lot of that money instead of the creators.
967
- [3845.36 --> 3846.36] I see.
968
- [3846.36 --> 3847.36] That's an interesting take.
969
- [3847.36 --> 3864.36] And I think that the reason that we have a lot of kind of poor reporting and like bad vetting of facts is because those institutions that used to do a good job are a lot poorer than they used to be.
970
- [3864.36 --> 3865.36] That's interesting.
971
- [3865.36 --> 3892.36] So Facebook has kind of a, or Google has something of a moral responsibility to deal with the mess that they've made where they've created an environment in which well-funded, well-staffed publications were able to make money online and publish that information and actually get the click through.
972
- [3892.36 --> 3898.36] Because through your Facebook feed or through a Google search with just like the answer.
973
- [3898.36 --> 3900.36] Like you don't even have to click through to Wikipedia.
974
- [3900.36 --> 3901.36] Right.
975
- [3901.36 --> 3903.36] To get an answer to a Google search these days.
976
- [3903.36 --> 3909.36] So you think they bear like a moral responsibility to deal with this to an extent?
977
- [3909.36 --> 3910.36] To an extent.
978
- [3910.36 --> 3917.36] And I think maybe the part of the answer is view content, and you guys deal with this with them in a more positive way.
979
- [3917.36 --> 3925.36] But view content creators as partners who you value and find a way that you partner with them where they can be solvent doing what they do.
980
- [3925.36 --> 3926.36] Right.
981
- [3926.36 --> 3935.36] And in some cases that means publications that have large staffs of reporters and fact checkers who do the right thing instead of, you know, the BuzzFeeds of the world or whatever.
982
- [3935.36 --> 3936.36] Right.
983
- [3936.36 --> 3937.36] Right.
984
- [3937.36 --> 3942.36] If you're not slinging any mud at BuzzFeed, there's a place for BuzzFeed too at the bottom of the ocean.
985
- [3942.36 --> 3944.36] There's no mud at the bottom of the ocean.
986
- [3944.36 --> 3945.36] We can't sling mud there.
987
- [3945.36 --> 3946.36] There you go.
988
- [3946.36 --> 3949.36] Well, there's lots of mud there, but anyway.
989
- [3949.36 --> 3950.36] Okay.
990
- [3950.36 --> 3952.36] Now let's talk about Facebook's approach.
991
- [3952.36 --> 3955.36] So Facebook, our original article here is from Business Insider.
992
- [3955.36 --> 3957.36] Let's go ahead and pull that up.
993
- [3957.36 --> 3963.36] Speaking of not generating click through for Business Insider, so like I said, we will have links to go read the full article.
994
- [3963.36 --> 3965.36] Anyway, here's the summary.
995
- [3965.36 --> 3967.36] Don't have to click on.
996
- [3967.36 --> 3981.36] Basically, the social network is adding a box to the top of its news feed for users in 14 countries that offers to provide tips on spotting fake news.
997
- [3981.36 --> 3990.36] If the user decides to click on it, they're taken to Facebook's Help Center where it provides 10 helpful tips for spotting fake news.
998
- [3990.36 --> 3996.36] What they've said, and you know, you can take this with a grain of salt, is that it is not a permanent addition to Facebook.
999
- [3996.36 --> 4000.36] It'll only be there for a few days, they said in a blog post.
1000
- [4000.36 --> 4007.36] But they are working on more ways to flag to users that a post may be false.
1001
- [4007.36 --> 4012.36] For example, by making it easier for the community to report misleading content.
1002
- [4012.36 --> 4016.36] So they're under particular pressure to deal with fake news in Europe.
1003
- [4016.36 --> 4026.36] This week, Germany approved a bill to fine social networks up to 50 million euro if they don't remove fake news quickly enough.
1004
- [4026.36 --> 4033.36] So that'll motivate the engineers to get on that fake news removal.
1005
- [4033.36 --> 4039.36] But again, like putting Facebook in charge of it, putting the community in charge of it.
1006
- [4039.36 --> 4040.36] Community is the problem.
1007
- [4040.36 --> 4043.36] Where do you think fake news comes from?
1008
- [4043.36 --> 4048.36] People creating it, people creating it, and then people sharing it and liking it.
1009
- [4048.36 --> 4050.36] And being like, oh wow, this is amazing.
1010
- [4050.36 --> 4055.36] I can't believe this herbal supplement can change my life in just, you know, four days.
1011
- [4055.36 --> 4060.36] That's my voice of people who believe fake news.
1012
- [4060.36 --> 4061.36] That's pretty good.
1013
- [4061.36 --> 4062.36] That's pretty good.
1014
- [4062.36 --> 4063.36] I believe it.
1015
- [4063.36 --> 4064.36] Wow, this steroid cream!
1016
- [4064.36 --> 4068.36] I can gain 18 pounds of pure muscle in just a week!
1017
- [4068.36 --> 4071.36] I'm pretty sure that's what they all sound like.
1018
- [4071.36 --> 4084.36] So, I think I like a help center with tips for spotting fake news better than I like a community run thing.
1019
- [4084.36 --> 4092.36] Because that just seems like it's going to turn into like a war between r slash the Donald and r slash most of the rest of Reddit.
1020
- [4092.36 --> 4096.36] But, good luck with that.
1021
- [4096.36 --> 4099.36] And I hope you avoid that 50 million euro fine.
1022
- [4099.36 --> 4101.36] Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
1023
- [4101.36 --> 4103.36] You've got to be at two minds about this.
1024
- [4103.36 --> 4111.36] Because if there's something out there that's really awful, fake, dumb, and people are sharing it, maybe they should do something about it.
1025
- [4111.36 --> 4112.36] But where do you draw the line?
1026
- [4112.36 --> 4113.36] Where do you decide?
1027
- [4113.36 --> 4114.36] Right?
1028
- [4114.36 --> 4119.36] And do you trust one of these big companies to make that call for you?
1029
- [4119.36 --> 4129.36] And another where is the line moment is, you know, is Facebook really responsible for it if that is genuine user created content?
1030
- [4129.36 --> 4132.36] I don't know.
1031
- [4132.36 --> 4147.36] There's certainly, okay, in my mind they are certainly responsible for it if this is like something that is pretending to be fake news but is actually sponsored content where they're making money by disseminating false information.
1032
- [4147.36 --> 4151.36] That is a fairly obvious one from my standpoint.
1033
- [4151.36 --> 4165.36] And I'm not just talking like a link to someone's, to a website where it's, you know, the link to htc vive.com where it says, we make the greatest VR headset of all time.
1034
- [4165.36 --> 4167.36] Where it's obviously a store.
1035
- [4167.36 --> 4171.36] I'm talking the ones where it appears to be an article or a testimonial.
1036
- [4171.36 --> 4180.36] My wife actually recently met someone who worked as an actress to do fake testimonials.
1037
- [4180.36 --> 4191.36] So she would put on a lab coat and she'd talk about, you know, my patients experience, you know, an improvement in their symptoms in 92% of cases on this drug.
1038
- [4191.36 --> 4192.36] Hmm.
1039
- [4192.36 --> 4199.36] And that's like, it's this shady kind of underground acting industry.
1040
- [4199.36 --> 4200.36] Right.
1041
- [4200.36 --> 4209.36] And, you know, there where Facebook is actually making money off of this information being spread, there's a clear responsibility to remove it.
1042
- [4209.36 --> 4213.36] But something user generated is really a fine line.
1043
- [4213.36 --> 4218.36] And I'm sure Twitch chat is absolutely full of free speech stuff.
1044
- [4218.36 --> 4226.36] But what you have to understand is that the right to free speech does not cover posting on a private platform.
1045
- [4226.36 --> 4232.36] You are not entitled to say anything you want, anywhere you want, without being given the boot.
1046
- [4232.36 --> 4236.36] What you are entitled to do is criticize your government without being imprisoned.
1047
- [4236.36 --> 4237.36] It doesn't cover certain stuff.
1048
- [4237.36 --> 4252.36] So just to be clear, free speech is not just like, you know, a carte blanche to say, I'm not going to say it because the one time I said, I said, we can't say this.
1049
- [4252.36 --> 4258.36] Naturally, clips of me saying it were all over the internet the next day with the cut off the beginning part.
1050
- [4258.36 --> 4268.36] But, yeah, it is not actually a license to say anything you want on the Linus Tech Tips forum, for example.
1051
- [4268.36 --> 4270.36] We can edit your post.
1052
- [4270.36 --> 4272.36] We can delete your post.
1053
- [4272.36 --> 4274.36] We can nuke your account.
1054
- [4274.36 --> 4276.36] That's our right.
1055
- [4276.36 --> 4280.36] So, there you go.
1056
- [4280.36 --> 4283.36] Spoken like somebody who's moderated a forum for a while.
1057
- [4283.36 --> 4286.36] Oh, yeah, our Google AdSense was turned off permanently like two years ago.
1058
- [4286.36 --> 4291.36] Because there was a post your wallpapers thread that ended up with a bunch of porn in it.
1059
- [4291.36 --> 4297.36] It's like, post your wallpapers within reason, smart guys and gals.
1060
- [4297.36 --> 4300.36] Anyway, that's pretty much it for me.
1061
- [4300.36 --> 4303.36] I don't have much else in the doc here that I feel like I need to cover.
1062
- [4303.36 --> 4308.36] Oh, we've got people asking you to talk about Vega.
1063
- [4308.36 --> 4309.36] Okay.
1064
- [4309.36 --> 4312.36] So, you got three minutes.
1065
- [4312.36 --> 4313.36] Riff on Vega.
1066
- [4313.36 --> 4318.36] Can you tell them anything they don't already know and aren't already really excited about?
1067
- [4318.36 --> 4319.36] It depends on what they know.
1068
- [4319.36 --> 4322.36] I mean, they sat here for over an hour watching us talk.
1069
- [4322.36 --> 4324.36] We've got to reward them somehow.
1070
- [4324.36 --> 4325.36] Think of the people.
1071
- [4325.36 --> 4327.36] Vega has returned to high-end GPUs.
1072
- [4327.36 --> 4328.36] Oh, we know that.
1073
- [4328.36 --> 4329.36] Yes, yes, yes.
1074
- [4329.36 --> 4333.36] So, biggest architectural change in the last five years.
1075
- [4333.36 --> 4334.36] Yeah, we know that too.
1076
- [4334.36 --> 4335.36] Yeah, yeah.
1077
- [4335.36 --> 4336.36] Okay.
1078
- [4336.36 --> 4339.36] So, what are you looking for?
1079
- [4339.36 --> 4342.36] I want to know if NVIDIA is going to get knocked down a peg.
1080
- [4342.36 --> 4344.36] Well, that's the plan.
1081
- [4344.36 --> 4345.36] Okay.
1082
- [4345.36 --> 4348.36] But, you know, I can't tell you anything.
1083
- [4348.36 --> 4352.36] Anything too detailed at this point in time.
1084
- [4352.36 --> 4353.36] I'm sorry.
1085
- [4353.36 --> 4354.36] It's not coming.
1086
- [4354.36 --> 4355.36] Tell me this.
1087
- [4355.36 --> 4356.36] Yeah.
1088
- [4356.36 --> 4361.36] Can you not tell us anything because you don't know or because you just can't tell us?
1089
- [4361.36 --> 4363.36] Some of each, right?
1090
- [4363.36 --> 4364.36] Some of each.
1091
- [4364.36 --> 4365.36] So, you know things.
1092
- [4365.36 --> 4366.36] I know things.
1093
- [4366.36 --> 4367.36] You know things.
1094
- [4367.36 --> 4368.36] You know things.
1095
- [4368.36 --> 4369.36] I know some things.
1096
- [4369.36 --> 4370.36] Yeah.
1097
- [4370.36 --> 4371.36] All right.
1098
- [4371.36 --> 4373.36] Well, thanks for watching, guys.
1099
- [4373.36 --> 4375.36] We're going to say goodbye for this week.
1100
- [4375.36 --> 4380.36] Special thanks to Scott for flying all the way out here from Timbuktu because he doesn't
1101
- [4380.36 --> 4385.36] actually work out of AMD's headquarters and joining us here today.
1102
- [4385.36 --> 4387.36] And, yeah, I think that's pretty much it.
1103
- [4387.36 --> 4388.36] We'll see you again next week.
1104
- [4388.36 --> 4389.36] Same bat time.
1105
- [4389.36 --> 4390.36] Same bat channel.
1106
- [4390.36 --> 4392.36] Same bat channel.
1107
- [4392.36 --> 4395.36] So many of our viewers don't get that reference.
1108
- [4395.36 --> 4396.36] Yeah.
1109
- [4396.36 --> 4397.36] Yeah.
1110
- [4397.36 --> 4401.36] I only get it because my mom loved the show and we had like recorded VHS's that I would
1111
- [4401.36 --> 4402.36] watch as a kid.
1112
- [4402.36 --> 4404.36] Like it's sort of before my time too.
1113
- [4404.36 --> 4405.36] Yeah.
1114
- [4405.36 --> 4409.36] I was going to say that's, that's, I, I, I, I vaguely know about it, but I don't know
1115
- [4409.36 --> 4412.36] if it was, that show was over by the time.
1116
- [4412.36 --> 4413.36] It was over by the time.
1117
- [4413.36 --> 4414.36] It was 70.
1118
- [4414.36 --> 4415.36] It was in reruns.
1119
- [4415.36 --> 4416.36] Yeah.
1120
- [4416.36 --> 4417.36] When I was a kid.
1121
- [4417.36 --> 4419.36] But yeah, running in, running in the 70s.
1122
- [4419.36 --> 4421.36] So it was definitely, definitely before my time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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- [0.00 --> 5.96] Welcome to the Wancho! Starting again!
2
- [5.96 --> 6.46] Yay!
3
- [6.46 --> 9.66] Which will make no sense to those of you watching the vibe.
4
- [9.66 --> 10.46] Yay!
5
- [10.46 --> 11.46] We've got...
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- [11.46 --> 13.46] We're totally doing this for the first time.
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- [13.46 --> 16.60] We've actually got some pretty crap topics this week.
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- [16.60 --> 17.40] No!
9
- [17.40 --> 18.40] Yup, they're crap.
10
- [18.40 --> 19.90] We do have a couple...
11
- [19.90 --> 20.90] We can polish it.
12
- [20.90 --> 22.90] We...
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- [22.90 --> 26.70] You can polish the crap as long as it's not diarrhea.
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- [26.70 --> 30.70] Oh, man.
15
- [30.70 --> 32.70] Try and polish diarrhea, you just end up with a...
16
- [32.70 --> 33.70] That would be a more advanced process.
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- [33.70 --> 34.70] With a poop smear.
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- [34.70 --> 38.70] Well, you could like put it in like an ice cube tray.
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- [38.70 --> 40.70] Oh, so you freeze it.
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- [40.70 --> 41.70] Freeze it.
21
- [41.70 --> 42.70] Freeze it, then polish it.
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- [42.70 --> 43.70] Yeah.
23
- [43.70 --> 44.70] That could work.
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- [44.70 --> 45.70] More work.
25
- [45.70 --> 46.70] That could work.
26
- [46.70 --> 48.70] I mean, can you imagine a poop ice cube?
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- [48.70 --> 51.70] Like, what would be an appropriate context for that?
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- [51.70 --> 53.70] I mean, if you're...
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- [53.70 --> 57.70] If you need improvised projectiles, that might also cause disease.
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- [57.70 --> 58.70] Yeah.
31
- [58.70 --> 61.70] So if you're this far into the show and you're thinking, hmm, is this gonna be one of those
32
- [61.70 --> 65.70] ones where they actually have tech news or is this gonna be one of the ones where they
33
- [65.70 --> 67.70] just BS for an hour?
34
- [67.70 --> 69.70] Hopefully that's already clear.
35
- [69.70 --> 70.70] Yeah.
36
- [70.70 --> 71.70] We do have some...
37
- [71.70 --> 72.70] We do have some real topics though.
38
- [72.70 --> 75.70] Crash plan for home says au revoir.
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- [75.70 --> 76.70] Au revoir.
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- [76.70 --> 78.70] That's goodbye in Italian.
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- [78.70 --> 82.70] Um, they are pulling out of the home market.
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- [87.70 --> 89.70] Oh, this just in.
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- [89.70 --> 95.70] Intel's 8th generation mobile processors are just updated 7th generation tips.
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- [95.70 --> 96.70] Tips?
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- [96.70 --> 97.70] Chips.
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- [97.70 --> 98.70] They're not tips at all.
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- [101.70 --> 102.70] I'm having one of those days.
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- [104.70 --> 105.70] I'm gonna argue jet lag.
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- [105.70 --> 107.70] But it's essentially the same jet lag.
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- [107.70 --> 110.70] You know I was in New York this week, right?
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- [110.70 --> 111.70] Yeah, but didn't...
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- [111.70 --> 112.70] Oh no, you got back yesterday.
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- [112.70 --> 113.70] I got back...
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- [115.70 --> 122.70] Okay, I was at the airport in New York at 5.30 Eastern time yesterday.
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- [123.70 --> 132.70] So at 3.30 home time, I was at an airport getting on what would have been a 5.30 our time flight.
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- [133.70 --> 134.70] No, on.
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- [136.70 --> 137.70] At that airport.
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- [137.70 --> 138.70] Oh.
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- [138.70 --> 146.70] Then I flew for 6 hours and I got off the plane at 10.30 a.m. our time and came to the office for the day.
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- [147.70 --> 148.70] I'm going with the jet lag.
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- [148.70 --> 151.70] You did seem very tired that day and I was like, huh?
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- [151.70 --> 152.70] Okay, sure.
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- [152.70 --> 156.70] Well, did you notice that I was only gone for about 35 hours?
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- [156.70 --> 157.70] No.
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- [157.70 --> 158.70] I wasn't here.
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- [158.70 --> 159.70] Yeah.
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- [159.70 --> 162.70] To New York and back, plus doing the entire Samsung event on my own.
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- [163.70 --> 165.70] Okay, I only vaguely heard about this.
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- [165.70 --> 166.70] I had no camera person.
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- [166.70 --> 167.70] Why?
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- [168.70 --> 169.70] You know what?
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- [169.70 --> 170.70] Okay, we'll get to it after the intro.
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- [171.70 --> 173.70] So the Vega shortage could last until October.
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- [175.70 --> 178.70] I mean, who really cares anyway?
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- [183.70 --> 184.70] What the crap?
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- [184.70 --> 185.70] Wait, what about the other one?
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- [188.70 --> 189.70] Sponsors.
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- [189.70 --> 190.70] Fresh books!
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- [190.70 --> 191.70] They're books that are fresh.
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- [191.70 --> 192.70] Savage jerky!
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- [192.70 --> 193.70] It's less fresh because it's preserved.
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- [203.70 --> 204.70] What the crap?
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- [204.70 --> 205.70] Wait, what about the other one?
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- [217.70 --> 218.70] Let me see.
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- [218.70 --> 220.70] But why isn't my screen share working?
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- [257.70 --> 258.70] Yeah, no, I'm...
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- [265.70 --> 272.70] Um, and actually another good discussion topic that we've got here is, is float plane dying?
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- [272.70 --> 273.70] What?
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- [273.70 --> 279.70] I don't know what would make people think that, but that is definitely a, uh, I'm stoked on that as a topic of conversation.
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- [306.70 --> 307.70] It's doing quite well.
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- [307.70 --> 309.70] People are asking if I dye my hair.
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- [309.70 --> 310.70] Oh, the trip to New York, that's right.
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- [311.70 --> 312.70] Why did I dye my hair?
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- [312.70 --> 313.70] I'm only 31.
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- [313.70 --> 315.70] I can't believe I'm 31.
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- [315.70 --> 318.70] That's not too bad.
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- [318.70 --> 319.70] It's not too great.
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- [337.70 --> 338.70] But me too!
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- [338.70 --> 339.70] It started nice!
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- [339.70 --> 340.70] It started nice!
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- [340.70 --> 344.70] It started, you look really great for your 30s, then it's like, but wow man, you are really
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- [347.70 --> 349.70] Yeah, but you can just shave your beard and you'll...
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- [361.70 --> 362.70] Your face looks horrible enough that you have to hide it behind here.
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- [366.70 --> 367.70] Where is it?
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- [374.70 --> 375.70] I think there's people that, like, legitimately think I'm a different person.
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- [375.70 --> 390.48] Okay, but you know what though, in your defense, I think part of why it doesn't work for you, though, is because your hairdo is kind of like, you have like, a choir board or a
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- [415.48 --> 417.48] You just, you go kind of like, yeah, kind of choir boy.
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- [426.48 --> 428.48] Okay, so we were supposed to talk about the trip to New York.
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- [428.48 --> 429.48] Yes.
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- [429.48 --> 430.48] Okay, so here's what went down.
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- [486.48 --> 491.48] They're like, yeah, and the blue color is going to be available exclusively on Rogers.
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- [496.48 --> 500.48] Someone will find out from the video that they're interested in the phone, go to Rogers.com,
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- [525.48 --> 530.48] And every other press in the world, mind you, The Verge had an article, or had a video up,
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- [530.48 --> 534.48] while Austin and I were sitting there at the audience going, why do we even attend these things?
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- [537.48 --> 539.48] Why are we even here?
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- [540.48 --> 543.48] But that's a whole other conversation.
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- [556.48 --> 563.48] And then I'm like, okay, yeah, so we need two tickets, me and a camera person, which I think is fairly reasonable for a publication of our impact.
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- [568.48 --> 574.48] And I'm like, okay, well, can I just pay for their ticket and pay for their hotel?
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- [575.48 --> 576.48] Like, I don't care.
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- [576.48 --> 581.48] Like, most of the camera people here I'm buddy-buddy enough with that we could just share a room, no problem.
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- [590.48 --> 596.48] They could only get me one ticket into the event because, again, it's because I'm going through Samsung Canada.
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- [601.48 --> 607.48] I was going as far as like, is this like a fire marshal issue? Like they literally can't bring more people into the building?
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- [607.48 --> 613.48] It was full. But the problem is that Canada's allocation was so little of it that-
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- [614.48 --> 618.48] That- so Austin had three people there.
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- [619.48 --> 626.48] Because- but he didn't get his hotel and flight paid for and he didn't get like- there was this activation after where-
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- [627.48 --> 634.48] I was supposed to have- like, get this, I was supposed to have two to three thousand dollars to go experience New York with the Note 8.
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- [634.48 --> 637.48] And they were like, yeah, you could do like a chopper flight or you could do this, you could-
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- [642.48 --> 644.48] So I didn't even end up using it.
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- [644.48 --> 652.48] But it was like, you guys- you guys have all this like, influencer budget, but I can't bring a camera person to the event with me. Come on.
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- [652.48 --> 656.48] So Austin didn't have that because that was just something Samsung Canada was doing.
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- [663.48 --> 664.48] Yes!
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- [664.48 --> 670.48] Where one company, Samsung, okay, they have The Verge going live with-
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- [674.48 --> 675.48] I don't know what that is.
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- [681.48 --> 683.48] While the entire rest of the world press-
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- [683.48 --> 686.48] Which has like astronomically more views than the rest of the stuff in their channel.
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- [686.48 --> 691.48] While the entire rest of the world press is sitting in an auditorium waiting for the presentation to start.
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- [691.48 --> 699.48] They've got the US and Canada and whatever other countries with Wonko allocations for press.
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- [699.48 --> 700.48] Not every one.
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- [700.48 --> 701.48] They've got-
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- [704.48 --> 711.48] I would consider myself and Austin pretty similar in terms of what we are.
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- [711.48 --> 714.48] YouTubers, influencers, like we fall in the same category.
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- [714.48 --> 720.48] And he's got to buy his flight, buy his hotel, but he can get as many tickets as he wants.
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- [720.48 --> 727.48] I get a free flight, free hotel, and a few grand to spend on doing something cool in New York, but I can't bring a camera operator.
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- [727.48 --> 728.48] Yeah.
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- [728.48 --> 730.48] So it's just all over the place.
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- [730.48 --> 736.48] And I just, I feel like somewhere, at some point-
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- [736.48 --> 745.48] What could have even been sort of interesting is if they gave you like one of those phone gyro things, and like you were able to bring an editor.
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- [745.48 --> 746.48] Yeah.
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- [746.48 --> 749.48] And they got you to like film the whole thing on the phone.
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- [749.48 --> 750.48] Yeah.
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- [750.48 --> 754.48] And they like gave you a phone to talk about in display, and they give you a phone to film with.
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- [754.48 --> 755.48] Yeah.
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- [755.48 --> 756.48] And you're able to bring an editor so they can actually edit the video.
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- [756.48 --> 757.48] Exactly.
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- [757.48 --> 759.48] That would be pretty neat.
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- [759.48 --> 761.48] And the other thing too though is consistency.
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- [761.48 --> 764.48] Like, no one's going to be upset if everyone's kind of doing the same thing.
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- [765.48 --> 787.48] But like honestly, and I don't mean, I hope she, I sincerely doubt she's watching, but there was another person in the media, on the media side of the presentation, that was sincerely taking notes from the presentation on a little pad of paper, and wrote down like 10 things.
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- [787.48 --> 790.48] And I'm kind of sitting here going like, how are you even covering this?
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- [790.48 --> 795.48] Like, what are you, are you going to fold that up, tie it to a pigeon, and mail it to someone?
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- [795.48 --> 796.48] Like, what are you doing?
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- [796.48 --> 798.48] What are you doing such that you are-
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- [798.48 --> 800.48] I've taken written notes before.
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- [800.48 --> 805.48] Such that you are relevant enough to be here, and that you're, yeah, but she wasn't, it wasn't a speed thing.
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- [805.48 --> 808.48] Cause she didn't even write my anything.
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- [808.48 --> 809.48] Okay.
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- [809.48 --> 810.48] And she was sitting right in front of me.
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- [810.48 --> 815.48] And I'm sitting here going, what could you possibly be doing that doesn't require you to digitize this at some point?
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- [816.48 --> 821.48] One of the things that I like about paper notes, and I know this isn't what you're saying, I'm just, we have to talk a lot today cause we have no news.
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- [822.48 --> 823.48] Yeah, hit it.
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- [823.48 --> 826.48] Is that, it's kind of like the OneNote idea.
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- [826.48 --> 833.48] If I had like a Surface book that I had folded back with a pen, then sure, but that's, I don't have, what, no?
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- [833.48 --> 835.48] Stop.
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- [835.48 --> 840.48] So like I can stop part way through and draw something or do whatever I need to do.
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- [840.48 --> 841.48] Okay.
367
- [841.48 --> 842.48] She drew nothing.
368
- [842.48 --> 843.48] And the notepad was like this big.
369
- [843.48 --> 844.48] See, that's crazy.
370
- [844.48 --> 845.48] And like really hard to like use.
371
- [845.48 --> 847.48] See, I normally have big ones like this.
372
- [847.48 --> 850.48] And we're sitting in a dark auditorium because it's like a presentation.
373
- [850.48 --> 851.48] That's stupid.
374
- [851.48 --> 852.48] Yeah.
375
- [852.48 --> 858.48] Anytime that I've sat down at a presentation, if I had the option, I did laptop or even phone.
376
- [858.48 --> 862.48] But if I'm like being walked around a booth really quickly, I often just write.
377
- [862.48 --> 863.48] Right.
378
- [863.48 --> 864.48] Okay.
379
- [864.48 --> 867.48] So, you know, right tool for the job.
380
- [867.48 --> 868.48] And I totally get that.
381
- [868.48 --> 871.48] But it was just like, why are you even here?
382
- [871.48 --> 872.48] Yeah.
383
- [872.48 --> 877.48] Um, so what else we, what else we got for today actually?
384
- [877.48 --> 881.48] Oh, oh, why don't we talk about is Flowplane dying?
385
- [881.48 --> 882.48] Is Flowplane dying?
386
- [882.48 --> 884.48] I don't, I don't even understand.
387
- [884.48 --> 885.48] No.
388
- [885.48 --> 886.48] Okay.
389
- [886.48 --> 887.48] Is that it?
390
- [887.48 --> 888.48] Yeah, that was it.
391
- [888.48 --> 891.48] In other news, are we going to finally move to OBS?
392
- [891.48 --> 894.48] Because my laptop screen capture is still not working.
393
- [894.48 --> 896.48] Why don't you talk about pros and cons while I see if I can figure this out.
394
- [896.48 --> 897.48] Okay.
395
- [897.48 --> 903.48] So, uh, if people have watched my little stream, I don't know if I've ever talked about it on the WAN show,
396
- [903.48 --> 918.48] but I've done quite a few different attempts of moving off of XSplit to OBS because the amount of riiiing that happens from everybody about how OBS is so much better because it's open source convinced me to try it a few times.
397
- [918.48 --> 923.48] And I decided that I didn't like it every single time until recently.
398
- [923.48 --> 926.48] And I'm sure I'm going to receive an email about this or a tweet or something.
399
- [926.48 --> 932.48] Uh, but I've been having a huge amount of problems with XSplit and I'm not the only one.
400
- [932.48 --> 938.48] And a lot of them have to do with capture cards and other different types of things that we're trying to use.
401
- [938.48 --> 946.48] And I'm getting feedback from these companies that make these devices that it just doesn't work on XSplit.
402
- [946.48 --> 949.48] And they're blaming XSplit and they're refusing to do anything about it.
403
- [949.48 --> 955.48] So, like, I'm pretty sure the stream deck doesn't work on XSplit.
404
- [955.48 --> 958.48] And we've had tons of problems with it, right? Yeah, so the stream deck.
405
- [958.48 --> 959.48] Uh, I don't know.
406
- [959.48 --> 960.48] Wait, what just happened?
407
- [960.48 --> 961.48] Oh dear.
408
- [961.48 --> 962.48] Oh crap.
409
- [962.48 --> 963.48] Did you unplug the SDI one?
410
- [963.48 --> 964.48] Uh, maybe. Hold on.
411
- [964.48 --> 966.48] Well, we theoretically still have audio.
412
- [966.48 --> 969.48] So I'm just going to keep talking because you don't really need to see me anyways.
413
- [969.48 --> 970.48] Dang it!
414
- [970.48 --> 976.48] Um, so, continuing from there, I wanted to play Horizon Zero Dawn and I couldn't.
415
- [976.48 --> 978.48] So I started trying to look into OBS.
416
- [978.48 --> 984.48] And man, there's been some leaps and bounds in terms of how good and functional OBS is.
417
- [984.48 --> 988.48] And it's still, in my opinion, a very clunky UI.
418
- [988.48 --> 995.48] I think they have made a number of objectively terrible design decisions.
419
- [995.48 --> 998.48] But functionality-wise, it does really well.
420
- [998.48 --> 1000.48] The transgitter stuff, it does well with.
421
- [1000.48 --> 1002.48] The audio levels...
422
- [1003.48 --> 1006.48] The audio stuff on XSplit is just...
423
- [1006.48 --> 1007.48] Ah!
424
- [1007.48 --> 1021.48] Why there's just like a volume bar that you can change the level of and like a tiny, very hard-to-see level bounce that's just on the bottom of the volume bar, not in its own area, very difficult to see, is completely beyond me.
425
- [1021.48 --> 1025.48] And OBS has individual levels for all your things that are very easy to see all the time.
426
- [1026.48 --> 1027.48] That's wonderful!
427
- [1027.48 --> 1035.48] There's some really clunky things about it, but it works very well in terms of the back-end stuff.
428
- [1035.48 --> 1047.48] And we use Epiphan AVIO capture cards because they're wonderful and they don't like overheat and do other junky things that a lot of other capture cards that we've used have done.
429
- [1047.48 --> 1050.48] But they have compatibility issues with...
430
- [1050.48 --> 1051.48] XSplit!
431
- [1051.48 --> 1052.48] And talking...
432
- [1052.48 --> 1055.48] They kinda came up over the last little while, like we didn't used to.
433
- [1055.48 --> 1056.48] Yes.
434
- [1056.48 --> 1058.48] Yeah, it seems to be new.
435
- [1060.48 --> 1062.48] And that's very frustrating.
436
- [1062.48 --> 1063.48] So, yeah.
437
- [1063.48 --> 1071.48] Moving off of something that is theoretically paid for to something that is free, because the free thing is better, is just odd.
438
- [1072.48 --> 1074.48] Well, it's not that odd in this day and age, but...
439
- [1074.48 --> 1075.48] Yeah.
440
- [1075.48 --> 1084.48] Okay, so, uh, this next news item is actually from my email, so hopefully I don't expose anything critical, but it doesn't look like it.
441
- [1085.48 --> 1089.48] CrashPlanForHome is going away!
442
- [1090.48 --> 1092.48] Thank you for using CrashPlanForHome!
443
- [1092.48 --> 1096.48] We hope you have enjoyed the secure backup that the free version of CrashPlanForHome has provided.
444
- [1096.48 --> 1103.48] As of today, we've made the decision to shift our business strategy to focus on the enterprise and small business segments.
445
- [1103.48 --> 1105.48] Wow!
446
- [1105.48 --> 1117.48] So this kinda sucks, because CrashPlan was like the go-to for quick, painless, easy offsite backup of your entire system.
447
- [1117.48 --> 1126.48] So, in theory, and you know, there's some port forwarding and whatever else that goes along with it, but in theory, CrashPlan was as simple as going,
448
- [1126.48 --> 1138.48] Okay, here's all the stuff I wanna backup, here's my buddy's CrashPlan code, click, and then it would send over an encrypted version of all of that stuff in like an encrypted container file,
449
- [1138.48 --> 1147.48] so that in the event that you had some kind of a catastrophic system failure, you would be able to, at the very least, back up all of your precious memories and all that.
450
- [1147.48 --> 1155.48] And you didn't necessarily even have to trust the person on the other side, you just had to have enough of a working relationship with them,
451
- [1155.48 --> 1166.48] that you'd be able to get physical access to the data at some point, or even back it up online, if you didn't have so much that it would take weeks to download or whatever the case may be.
452
- [1166.48 --> 1173.48] So, as long as you, you didn't even have to trust each other, you just had to have like a bilateral agreement that kind of goes,
453
- [1173.48 --> 1174.48] Yeah.
454
- [1174.48 --> 1179.48] Hey, I'll have some extra storage in my place, you have some extra storage at your place, we'll back up to each other, boom, done.
455
- [1179.48 --> 1187.48] And right now, I'm not 100% sure exactly what we're going to switch, or what I'm gonna switch to.
456
- [1187.48 --> 1191.48] Well, it says it supports small business, so what does that mean? How much does that cost?
457
- [1191.48 --> 1198.48] I'm using this personally though, and small business is, I believe, I forget, but it's like a significant cost per device.
458
- [1198.48 --> 1199.48] Okay.
459
- [1199.48 --> 1207.48] Yeah, so it really is priced like a small business solution. Click to get crash plan for small business, here we go.
460
- [1207.48 --> 1210.48] So let's have a look at what we got here.
461
- [1210.48 --> 1216.48] So I'm in a bit of a better spot, because way back now, to be completely honest, I got that Synology NAS.
462
- [1216.48 --> 1217.48] Yep.
463
- [1217.48 --> 1221.48] And I can Synology to Synology mirror, which is actually quite nice.
464
- [1221.48 --> 1226.48] There's other things you can do too on your own, but nothing that's as elegant as this.
465
- [1226.48 --> 1231.48] And this was like the cross-platform thing, because you could, so I could use it on a Windows desktop,
466
- [1231.48 --> 1235.48] and I could be backing up to a crash plan Docker container on an Unraid server, for example.
467
- [1235.48 --> 1236.48] Mm-hmm.
468
- [1236.48 --> 1238.48] So that was super cool.
469
- [1238.48 --> 1239.48] But yeah, no, here we go.
470
- [1239.48 --> 1242.48] It's $10 per device per month.
471
- [1242.48 --> 1243.48] Wow.
472
- [1243.48 --> 1244.48] For the business one.
473
- [1244.48 --> 1245.48] Yeah, so it's $120 a year.
474
- [1245.48 --> 1252.48] And what kind of sucks about this, it says you can migrate all your cloud backups, something, something.
475
- [1252.48 --> 1259.48] Yeah, I don't think, yeah, it does not support computer-to-computer backups anymore.
476
- [1259.48 --> 1268.48] So that super sucks, because that was the whole reason why I would use CrashPlan,
477
- [1268.48 --> 1274.48] because it's going from thing I own to thing that I own, or is like a thing my friend owns,
478
- [1274.48 --> 1279.48] instead of relying on, you know, some corporation somewhere to keep all of this stuff safe.
479
- [1279.48 --> 1286.48] Like, I like the idea of having everything on my servers, and especially not having to pay extra for more cloud storage
480
- [1286.48 --> 1289.48] if I have a bunch of crap I want to back up.
481
- [1289.48 --> 1297.48] Like, if I have a gigabit internet connection at my office, I would love to be able to just flood it.
482
- [1297.48 --> 1300.48] And they're not going to like...
483
- [1300.48 --> 1303.48] So what happens if you've already got this stuff set up?
484
- [1303.48 --> 1305.48] Because isn't this local software?
485
- [1305.48 --> 1307.48] It is local software.
486
- [1307.48 --> 1311.48] I believe, though, that the...
487
- [1311.48 --> 1312.48] They can just can it remotely?
488
- [1312.48 --> 1318.48] Yeah, I believe they can can it, because the way that friends are tracked is through authentication through the software.
489
- [1318.48 --> 1319.48] Through their thing.
490
- [1319.48 --> 1322.48] Yeah, so it's not something where you just point it at an IP and it just goes.
491
- [1322.48 --> 1323.48] Okay.
492
- [1323.48 --> 1326.48] Yeah, so maybe they've had this in the plan for a long time.
493
- [1326.48 --> 1335.48] Maybe the people who are smarter than me are going to go find some version that you can kind of roll back to where it all works or something like that.
494
- [1335.48 --> 1340.48] I'm not sure, but in the meantime, I'm definitely going to be looking for some other kind of solution.
495
- [1340.48 --> 1342.48] And that's pretty frustrating.
496
- [1342.48 --> 1343.48] I'm not sure.
497
- [1343.48 --> 1345.48] I'm just going to be looking for some options.
498
- [1345.48 --> 1346.48] I can't wait...
499
- [1346.48 --> 1347.48] I can't wait...
500
- [1347.48 --> 1348.48] I can't wait...
501
- [1348.48 --> 1349.48] Just...
502
- [1349.48 --> 1350.48] I can't wait...
503
- [1350.48 --> 1351.48] I can't wait...
504
- [1351.48 --> 1352.48] I can't wait...
505
- [1352.48 --> 1362.04] Half-Life 3. Oh, you gotta be kidding me. Nope, actually not. So this was originally posted on the forum by N2A Newt and
506
- [1364.66 --> 1370.94] Let's go ahead and just kind of wow that is so broken. There you go
507
- [1372.28 --> 1374.28] That looks pretty good
508
- [1374.32 --> 1378.46] so Half-Life 2 episode 3's story released by
509
- [1378.46 --> 1385.38] Mark Laidlaw the lead writer for the Half-Life series who left valve last year
510
- [1386.90 --> 1391.60] Wow, I have a feeling this could get him in a lot of trouble. I
511
- [1392.74 --> 1396.84] Really hope he's sought out legal counsel. Yeah, I hope he's lawyered up man
512
- [1400.14 --> 1407.46] Wow, that's pretty crazy if you want to read it's on github and I believe it's in like quite a few other places as well
513
- [1407.46 --> 1412.78] It's on pastebin because people are worried about it being brought down, which is not surprising at all
514
- [1413.98 --> 1418.38] Apparently it wraps up a lot of loose ends. It's essentially Half-Life 2 episode 3
515
- [1422.22 --> 1429.68] Yeah, wow apparently it the corrected versions where it like fixes the genders and fixes a few words that he like
516
- [1429.68 --> 1434.04] Change that can't be enough to save him at all
517
- [1434.04 --> 1436.00] But whatever
518
- [1436.00 --> 1440.58] Um is like a very coherent and plausible plot line
519
- [1440.58 --> 1444.84] So it's from a fictional character named Gertie Fremont
520
- [1444.84 --> 1448.36] Yeah, but if you change that yeah
521
- [1448.36 --> 1452.04] Who recounts her team up with feisty partner Alex Vaunt
522
- [1453.18 --> 1457.50] To find the hyperborea luxury liner, which must be
523
- [1458.52 --> 1460.52] Yeah, so
524
- [1461.80 --> 1466.26] Wow, so he's like probably gonna get owned I really like
525
- [1466.82 --> 1470.70] So there's no way of knowing whether this was a finalized plot line
526
- [1470.70 --> 1476.88] We have no way of knowing how far into development Half-Life 2 episode 3 this could be a first draft. Yep
527
- [1476.88 --> 1478.88] Um
528
- [1478.88 --> 1487.82] But apparently he was the primary architect of Half-Life's plot and his departure from valve last year was widely seen as acknowledgement that episode 3 was completely dead
529
- [1488.88 --> 1496.48] So maybe if I can speculate wildly without looking into anything that this guy said publicly at all because you don't have a lot of notes
530
- [1496.48 --> 1500.84] It's just the WAN show anyway. Yeah, why not right? Let's just yolo it. Yeah
531
- [1500.84 --> 1506.26] Yeah percent. So yeah fake news warning. Yeah, but I would I would assume that maybe
532
- [1506.26 --> 1512.64] This is like he's the main architect for the plot. It said that right there. This is probably like his masterpiece
533
- [1513.26 --> 1517.80] Right, so while he might get screwed for this maybe he just doesn't care. Yeah
534
- [1517.80 --> 1519.80] Yeah
535
- [1521.80 --> 1529.30] Cuz like if you created this and like the whole internet is like we want it so bad yeah, and it's like the greatest work you've done
536
- [1529.30 --> 1531.30] I don't know I don't know what else he's worked on
537
- [1531.30 --> 1534.80] Yeah, I mean I can see how someone would feel like that like but Half-Life is amazing
538
- [1534.80 --> 1537.30] So that would be like an amazing thing to be the greatest thing you've done
539
- [1537.30 --> 1541.80] I'll tell you something like we've considered just going live with the channel super fun
540
- [1541.80 --> 1542.80] uh top gun
541
- [1542.80 --> 1546.80] shot for shot volleyball scene recreation and just
542
- [1547.36 --> 1549.36] Taking the copyright strike
543
- [1549.86 --> 1553.56] Just so that people can watch it like having it up there for long enough that
544
- [1553.56 --> 1559.06] That some people can watch it before it gets ripped down cuz like they're not going to delete our channel
545
- [1559.06 --> 1559.56] No
546
- [1559.56 --> 1566.06] Realistically, we're not a big enough target to get sued into oblivion by uh, what is it? Columbia pictures?
547
- [1566.06 --> 1568.32] And if we do what we just give them all the profits from the video?
548
- [1568.32 --> 1570.36] Can't remember. Well, no, no, they know
549
- [1570.36 --> 1571.36] There's more to it than that
550
- [1571.36 --> 1572.36] Yeah, there's more to it than that
551
- [1572.36 --> 1576.96] Realistically, they're not gonna they're not gonna put a target on their own back
552
- [1576.96 --> 1580.76] By like trying to shut down
553
- [1580.76 --> 1587.42] I like to think a fairly, you know beloved youtube creator company like yeah
554
- [1587.42 --> 1592.70] Like the amount of public backlash over suing us into a crater
555
- [1592.70 --> 1595.82] Over us just doing a fan
556
- [1595.82 --> 1596.76] Yeah
557
- [1596.76 --> 1600.20] Remake of a scene from one of their movies like come on
558
- [1600.20 --> 1604.06] It seemed it seems very implausible at some people like it at LTX
559
- [1604.06 --> 1608.92] Yeah, yeah, yeah like at some point before an actual lawsuit occurs
560
- [1608.92 --> 1614.44] Some human looks at something and makes a decision as to whether or not to proceed with it
561
- [1614.44 --> 1620.92] And it's not necessarily as simple as the black and white of law. Yeah, it's like is this worth the PR?
562
- [1621.24 --> 1624.60] Is this worth the cost? Is this worth the effort? Yeah, like that
563
- [1624.60 --> 1629.00] But like what you just said just to dive further into this topic that I know nothing about
564
- [1629.00 --> 1632.86] Yeah, um could be a reason why valve might not go for this guy
565
- [1632.86 --> 1642.28] Valve is the like dream child of all the PC gamers, but remember to and okay less so these days for one thing and
566
- [1642.92 --> 1644.92] If you don't protect your IP
567
- [1646.28 --> 1651.56] Then you will be seen as soft and you could open yourself up to this kind of leak
568
- [1651.56 --> 1657.16] All the time yeah, and all of a sudden valve who might not have a ton of employees
569
- [1657.48 --> 1661.80] But in terms of revenues mass and profits is a gigantic company
570
- [1663.56 --> 1668.04] I uh, no, I I think I think they actually have no choice
571
- [1668.84 --> 1671.56] But to go after him as hardcore as they can
572
- [1673.24 --> 1676.36] Like if honestly that sucks if I was them I would do it
573
- [1676.36 --> 1684.28] Just because you can't set a precedent like that and you can't have someone you can't make it okay for that to happen
574
- [1684.84 --> 1689.72] Because someone might actually come out with a game with gertie fremont and alex avant
575
- [1691.16 --> 1694.68] Yep, that is like the exact thing like here and call it like
576
- [1695.80 --> 1697.16] quarter
577
- [1697.16 --> 1698.28] lifespan
578
- [1698.28 --> 1700.28] Three let's draw a parallel right?
579
- [1700.28 --> 1704.84] Right, um, so let's say that um, let's say that you
580
- [1705.80 --> 1708.68] Decided to quit or something like that. Get owned. Um
581
- [1709.40 --> 1715.24] Yeah, I know you're like half halfway out the door already, but the point is let's say you decided
582
- [1715.24 --> 1722.20] Yeah, yeah, like what like three months or something. Yeah, let's say you decided to quit and as the last thing that you did
583
- [1722.84 --> 1725.40] You went around the office and you grabbed
584
- [1726.44 --> 1728.12] your scrapyard wars pc
585
- [1728.12 --> 1730.12] yeah, and
586
- [1730.92 --> 1732.84] Let's just let's just try and think of like
587
- [1733.72 --> 1738.12] Some you know what there that's that's I was gonna say the bomb but that's the bomb's kind of yours already anyway
588
- [1738.12 --> 1740.76] Like I think the plasti dip on it is mine
589
- [1741.32 --> 1747.32] Yeah, it's not even plastic. Yeah, yes, but the paint belongs to me. Well the plastic you can take the whole middle section
590
- [1747.32 --> 1753.88] Yeah, the whole middle section. Yeah, yeah, but but let's say the scrapyard wars pc where indisputably linus media group paid for oh, yeah
591
- [1753.88 --> 1756.76] No, that's yeah, and it was created on work time
592
- [1756.76 --> 1760.20] Which your employee agreement states that the things you create?
593
- [1760.76 --> 1762.60] Are the intellectual property of this company?
594
- [1762.60 --> 1763.72] Yeah, no, that's that's works
595
- [1763.72 --> 1767.16] Which i'm sure he has a very similar agreement in place certain
596
- [1767.32 --> 1771.72] So let's say that you took off with it and you were like i'm not giving this bag
597
- [1772.52 --> 1779.00] I would have no choice even though I don't actually care and as far as i'm concerned you can have it because that would be
598
- [1779.40 --> 1783.96] I didn't give you permission. Yeah, you just took couldn't that then be used
599
- [1784.92 --> 1789.72] Against you if someone else does it possibly yes because you set a precedent that this is okay
600
- [1789.96 --> 1794.44] Yes, and that could be seen as like a benefit of working here or something or something
601
- [1794.76 --> 1801.00] Either way i'm creating the potential for this to come back and become a problem and honestly in this case
602
- [1801.00 --> 1806.68] The stakes are even so much lower than someone you know leaking the plot of an oh, yeah
603
- [1806.68 --> 1809.80] Oh, yeah, definitely that's that's taking some property
604
- [1810.84 --> 1817.08] And like displaying it in my house probably yeah, the other thing would be taking property and giving it to everyone
605
- [1817.32 --> 1821.16] That's right. That would be like taking a video that we never released that I made
606
- [1821.64 --> 1825.16] Yeah, and giving it to everyone on my own channels later. Yep
607
- [1826.20 --> 1829.08] Where even if you had no intention of profiting from it
608
- [1829.32 --> 1833.40] This is something that a lot of people don't necessarily understand is the definition of profit
609
- [1833.40 --> 1842.60] Does not necessarily come down to the money that luke makes like let's say that luke took it and did a stream on his twitch channel
610
- [1843.08 --> 1845.96] Where he specifically the nda expired
611
- [1850.20 --> 1853.40] So is the argument here that the statute of limitations is up
612
- [1854.44 --> 1861.16] Because it's been a year or something like that well his nda yeah his nda from working there has apparently so there's a difference between
613
- [1861.16 --> 1868.92] That's very yeah, and nda and intellectual property yeah, and stealing it and disclosing something that's under if he was like
614
- [1868.92 --> 1872.68] Yeah, if he was like I had a fully written script
615
- [1873.80 --> 1874.68] for
616
- [1874.68 --> 1876.68] Half-life 2 episode 3
617
- [1876.68 --> 1883.64] That would be a perfect example of something that would be nda but not intellectual property
618
- [1884.68 --> 1888.28] um, so anyway, so back like literally the script back to the example
619
- [1888.28 --> 1896.04] Let's say luke decided that for that stream all the money that came in was going to go to a charity or he was going to turn off monetization
620
- [1896.04 --> 1899.96] Um for the video where he displayed that video. Yeah, um
621
- [1900.52 --> 1903.08] He still profits in the sense that
622
- [1903.80 --> 1909.32] If even if I can prove that even a single person went and watched that stream who wouldn't have otherwise
623
- [1910.20 --> 1912.20] He profited
624
- [1912.20 --> 1913.80] off of
625
- [1913.80 --> 1919.56] The thing that didn't belong to him that he stole from linus media group in the sense that he gained notoriety
626
- [1920.04 --> 1924.28] He was saying get john. I didn't uh, yeah, we could go get john actually
627
- [1924.92 --> 1929.96] Uh, he's uh, he's upstairs. We can you know what why don't we come back to this topic a little bit
628
- [1930.52 --> 1934.76] A little bit later in the stream. I want to say two things before we get john here so that like everyone remembers
629
- [1934.76 --> 1938.20] We can bring this up one some people are comparing this to h3h3
630
- [1938.20 --> 1944.76] That's not it at all. No, it's not content that was released by someone else that was used in minor form for parody completely
631
- [1945.32 --> 1947.32] drastically different situation
632
- [1947.32 --> 1948.44] um and
633
- [1948.44 --> 1954.60] Another one this would be sort of comparable to someone working at like dreamworks
634
- [1955.48 --> 1960.60] And they make a bunch of like internal animations and different shorts and all this different kind of stuff that they don't get to completion
635
- [1960.92 --> 1964.84] And then they quit and then a year later. They just release all of these publicly. Yeah, that's
636
- [1964.84 --> 1968.68] It's we'll get john here, but i'm like pretty john will be down
637
- [1968.84 --> 1971.40] I feel pretty good about the position that i've taken on it
638
- [1971.40 --> 1973.88] But hey, he could always come in and tell me i'm wrong in the meantime
639
- [1974.28 --> 1977.88] Uh, why don't we do our so america so the laws are like slightly different?
640
- [1978.20 --> 1980.60] Uh, what do we got for how wow you know?
641
- [1980.60 --> 1983.48] What's funny is we actually thought we didn't have a lot of topics this week
642
- [1983.48 --> 1988.28] But we've got a fair bit that we still have a fair bit to talk about so let's uh, let's get through this
643
- [1988.28 --> 1991.24] Are you a uh, wait what?
644
- [1992.28 --> 1994.28] We can do that one. We'll get back to it
645
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663
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664
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665
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666
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669
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- [2171.32 --> 2172.76] All right
679
- [2172.76 --> 2177.48] John get in here. You can take my spot. We're talking about the uh, the half-life three plot
680
- [2177.48 --> 2179.72] We can just we can just make a space in the middle. Have you heard about this?
681
- [2179.72 --> 2183.24] I have not heard about this. I've seen this have you heard about this? Okay. Okay, why don't you actually look at it?
682
- [2183.24 --> 2185.88] Will we do one one more topic and then you can come back and talk to us about it? Use my laptop
683
- [2185.88 --> 2187.88] What are we looking at again? Use my laptop. Yeah, okay
684
- [2188.60 --> 2191.88] In the meantime, I want to jump into one of our other topics here
685
- [2191.88 --> 2192.68] Right in the middle of the screen
686
- [2193.32 --> 2195.32] Someone messed with me
687
- [2195.80 --> 2199.40] Someone put a spicy one in the cracked pepper and sea salt
688
- [2199.40 --> 2205.56] I was delicious as usual, but I have the hiccups now because I wasn't expecting it
689
- [2207.48 --> 2209.72] That wasn't me that actually wasn't me
690
- [2210.92 --> 2213.32] I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan. Jackasses
691
- [2214.04 --> 2216.04] Jackasses everywhere
692
- [2216.04 --> 2217.00] What's his plan?
693
- [2217.00 --> 2218.12] His plan was to like
694
- [2219.16 --> 2222.44] Have a whole bunch in a line. You don't know which one's the spicy one, and it's like roulette
695
- [2223.24 --> 2224.52] Oh lordy
696
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697
- [2227.72 --> 2229.72] All right
698
- [2230.04 --> 2232.12] This was originally posted over on Ars Technica
699
- [2235.32 --> 2237.00] And Intel's not really hiding it
700
- [2237.80 --> 2241.40] But they recently launched eighth generation mobile chips
701
- [2242.36 --> 2242.84] and the
702
- [2243.48 --> 2247.88] um, the assumption I think from a lot of people even fairly tech savvy people I assumed this
703
- [2248.44 --> 2251.08] the assumption was that an eighth generation mobile chip
704
- [2252.04 --> 2255.24] would be coffee lake which is their upcoming architecture
705
- [2256.44 --> 2256.76] nope
706
- [2257.72 --> 2259.72] these quad core
707
- [2259.72 --> 2260.04] Dang it
708
- [2261.24 --> 2266.68] these quad core u-class mobile chips which by the by the way is pretty freaking sick
709
- [2267.72 --> 2271.48] so base clocks of anywhere from 1.6 to 1.9 gigahertz
710
- [2272.76 --> 2277.32] and boost clocks of 3.4 to 3.9 gigahertz at four core
711
- [2277.32 --> 2278.28] cores
712
- [2278.28 --> 2279.64] with
713
- [2279.64 --> 2284.28] and these are all 15 watt parts
714
- [2285.00 --> 2291.00] are pretty darn impressive and are going to enable a completely new class of mobile device
715
- [2291.56 --> 2295.08] like i'm really looking forward to see if lg does a 2018 gram
716
- [2295.08 --> 2297.08] with these processors
717
- [2297.08 --> 2297.40] right
718
- [2297.40 --> 2297.64] yeah
719
- [2297.64 --> 2300.52] or something like it because a quad core
720
- [2300.52 --> 2305.88] it's really the only thing i'm missing you've already got an nvme ssd you've already got 16 gigs plus of ram
721
- [2306.36 --> 2309.40] so the one thing missing is more multi-threading performance and
722
- [2309.40 --> 2313.64] they're even hyper threaded so we're talking four cores eight threads
723
- [2313.64 --> 2315.72] and they're just gonna be able to do that
724
- [2315.72 --> 2317.72] these things look sick
725
- [2317.72 --> 2318.36] unfortunately
726
- [2318.92 --> 2321.80] this is not nearly the shift that we were possibly
727
- [2322.44 --> 2323.16] expecting
728
- [2323.16 --> 2325.16] they are built on a somewhat refined version
729
- [2325.64 --> 2328.20] of intel's 14 nanometer manufacturing process
730
- [2328.20 --> 2329.96] and even though they're calling them eighth gen
731
- [2330.76 --> 2332.60] they're actually much more similar
732
- [2333.16 --> 2338.76] both cpu and gpu to the seventh generation kaby lake so they're calling these kaby lake refresh
733
- [2339.40 --> 2342.20] which if my experience is anything to go on basically means
734
- [2342.92 --> 2343.48] kaby lake
735
- [2343.48 --> 2343.96] yeah
736
- [2345.08 --> 2346.36] and it's frustrating because
737
- [2347.48 --> 2348.60] the whole idea
738
- [2349.16 --> 2351.88] behind like with like a better understanding of their bidding
739
- [2351.88 --> 2352.12] yeah
740
- [2352.92 --> 2356.20] the whole idea and it will intel is iterating all the time
741
- [2356.20 --> 2358.60] so it's kaby lake refresh
742
- [2359.32 --> 2363.96] but they're probably already using all the things they learned in other kaby lake chips as it is
743
- [2364.84 --> 2366.60] because they are making changes over time
744
- [2366.60 --> 2366.92] fair
745
- [2366.92 --> 2369.64] um sorry john we're almost ready for you sorry um
746
- [2370.68 --> 2374.92] but it's frustrating because the whole idea behind this gen thing is you're supposed to be able to understand
747
- [2375.56 --> 2382.52] what generation the freaking thing is architecturally and now we've got seventh generation processors
748
- [2382.52 --> 2387.48] processors on the hedt side that are sky lake based
749
- [2388.20 --> 2392.52] we've got seventh generation processors on the mainstream side that are kaby lake based
750
- [2393.08 --> 2396.04] and then we've got eighth generation processors that are kaby lake based
751
- [2396.36 --> 2397.72] is nothing sacred
752
- [2397.72 --> 2398.60] no
753
- [2402.68 --> 2403.96] so um yeah
754
- [2407.24 --> 2411.08] oh but to be clear the hedt ones i'm talking about are like the 7900x
755
- [2411.72 --> 2417.32] so that because it has a seven it's seventh gen but it is actually a sixth generation sky lake architecture
756
- [2417.32 --> 2422.12] so now there's going to have to be like the intel version and there's going to have to be like the
757
- [2422.12 --> 2426.44] enthusiast who has who's keeping track of this on their own version of what gen everything is
758
- [2426.44 --> 2429.72] all right so let's feel like we're going to need another tech wiki video
759
- [2429.72 --> 2434.76] let's let john jump in and talk about this whole half-life three thing i'll give you my spot
760
- [2441.08 --> 2447.88] here we go okay so half-life three how does how does this work because we think
761
- [2448.52 --> 2453.32] linus and i are both in agreement right now that some people in the chat are saying like oh
762
- [2453.32 --> 2462.76] he's nda lifted but we don't think this is an nda thing in our opinion it would be covered under nda if he was just like
763
- [2463.48 --> 2473.32] i had completed a script for half-life uh two episode three and that's all he says that seems like an nda style
764
- [2473.32 --> 2478.44] thing him actually releasing all the content does not seem like an nda protected action
765
- [2478.44 --> 2487.72] i mean nda is going to be written pretty broadly though yeah you can you can write an nda so what
766
- [2487.72 --> 2492.84] right but what we're saying is like um people are saying that the nda has lifted because he hasn't
767
- [2492.84 --> 2500.60] worked there for a year so he's released this content not being a employee of valve anymore
768
- [2500.60 --> 2506.76] mm-hmm and people are saying that he's fine because the nda lifted does that make any sense uh
769
- [2508.60 --> 2515.80] it does okay sorry if i seem a little bit confused you seem very confused well no it's it's more that
770
- [2515.80 --> 2521.72] um i don't i can't really think of a reason why that wouldn't make sense honestly okay you can
771
- [2521.72 --> 2527.64] have so if i work at linus sick tips and we make a series of videos called scrapyard wars
772
- [2527.64 --> 2532.20] and we make scrapyard wars hypothetical here we make scrapyard wars episode seven
773
- [2533.08 --> 2539.32] and ed finishes editing them but then linus hates me so fires me and doesn't want to release the
774
- [2539.32 --> 2542.68] episodes anymore because it wants nothing to do with me and i have all the copies of the episodes
775
- [2542.68 --> 2549.48] and i release them somewhere else because my nda expired how does that make any sense uh well you're
776
- [2549.48 --> 2556.84] covering different things with an nda versus just a separate agreement saying that you don't own
777
- [2556.84 --> 2563.32] copyright in it but this is this is content like did you actually see the post i read the bullet
778
- [2563.32 --> 2569.00] points below it not yeah no this is what he released okay which is like the script so he like changed
779
- [2569.00 --> 2574.36] that well it's like it's a letter from one character to another and the names and places have been changed
780
- [2574.36 --> 2580.84] but it's extremely obvious but like gordon freeman is uh what uh gerda something
781
- [2580.84 --> 2587.32] dirty freeman yeah or frement or something
782
- [2589.40 --> 2593.72] so wouldn't the storyline be considered ip and wouldn't that be covered separately from
783
- [2596.92 --> 2603.96] an nda you could cover it under both okay there's no i don't see a reason you couldn't do that so
784
- [2603.96 --> 2614.44] so do you think it's possible that he's off the hook here is he in trouble with valve is valve no
785
- [2614.44 --> 2620.20] one knows no one knows yet we're trying to figure out if he's in trouble with valve yeah i feel like
786
- [2620.20 --> 2624.12] valve wouldn't construct their nda in a way that makes it so that you can just release whatever you
787
- [2624.12 --> 2629.88] worked on after you leave for a year i don't know why anyone would ever do that that makes no sense
788
- [2629.88 --> 2636.60] it could be but like i was saying you could it could be under it could be covered under something
789
- [2636.60 --> 2641.00] else that isn't an nda so even if they say even if they structure something that says right but we're
790
- [2641.00 --> 2649.32] talking about if it's not covered not if it is covered uh okay so you're you're asking me if this
791
- [2650.12 --> 2657.48] isn't covered by an nda yeah i'm not asking you if it's covered by other things because we don't know
792
- [2657.48 --> 2661.32] we don't know there's no information about that at all all we know we're speculating what the
793
- [2661.32 --> 2671.88] likelihood is that he's okay here based on what based on because you're asking that he revealed
794
- [2671.88 --> 2678.44] the plot line of something that he was working on at valve and is therefore the intellectual property
795
- [2678.44 --> 2692.12] of valve after leaving i mean i have no way to say like it it completely depends on like how much valve
796
- [2692.12 --> 2698.04] values this information so and who knows if they do or not you know or they you know were they actually
797
- [2698.04 --> 2706.76] planning to release a sequel or not so interesting okay i had thought uh i had thought it'd be a little
798
- [2706.76 --> 2710.52] more open shut than that like well we're making some assumptions we're making assumptions that
799
- [2711.08 --> 2717.48] valve is going to aggressively protect its intellectual property regardless of whether it mattered or not
800
- [2718.36 --> 2722.84] because it sets kind of a bad precedent if they just let people walk away with this stuff well i mean
801
- [2723.96 --> 2729.88] you're right in that it probably would be considered ip like you're you're you are probably right about
802
- [2729.88 --> 2735.96] that but like at the same time is if you're going to sit here and ask oh how much trouble is he possibly
803
- [2735.96 --> 2742.04] in yeah impossible to say it really depends on what valve wants to do okay yeah all right thank you yep
804
- [2744.44 --> 2749.16] so so it sounds like we weren't that far off we were just making kind of a different set of
805
- [2749.16 --> 2753.56] assumptions about how we think valve would behave yeah that may or may not be right
806
- [2754.76 --> 2760.44] so we're just gonna have to wait and see how this one shakes out according to apparently um he has
807
- [2760.44 --> 2768.44] released a tweet i don't know where it went i lost the click sure why don't you have a look while i uh
808
- [2768.44 --> 2775.00] jump in and talk about the vega shortage okay so this was originally posted over on videocards.com
809
- [2775.56 --> 2780.04] um and actually there's a post by coaxial gamer over on the forum and the original article there is from
810
- [2780.04 --> 2789.40] pcgamesn.com but apparently the vega shortage could last until october in spite of amd's efforts to keep rx vega
811
- [2789.40 --> 2799.24] prices low so uh this is from video cards according to well informed sources of digitimes you should not
812
- [2799.24 --> 2805.88] expect to find rx vega in stores at least at a normal price until october while amd promised to
813
- [2805.88 --> 2810.84] prepare a high to prepare a high volume of rx vega graphics cards for launch the reality was that many
814
- [2810.84 --> 2818.36] countries apparently did not receive a single unit of the new flagship card the problem allegedly lies in
815
- [2818.36 --> 2823.24] the complexity of the vega chips other sources claim that this issue may lie in advanced semiconductor
816
- [2823.24 --> 2828.84] engineering packaging technology if i had to guess and this would be pure speculation i would say it
817
- [2828.84 --> 2837.80] probably has a lot to do with hbm2 and maybe not necessarily even the amount of hbm2 that amd can buy
818
- [2838.36 --> 2847.24] but possibly as much as that to do with amd simply not wanting to buy that much hbm2 right now
819
- [2848.20 --> 2853.72] because right now they're one of the only ones using it so if they put in a massive order they
820
- [2853.72 --> 2858.84] would themselves inherently spike the pricing of something that is a very limited commodity and
821
- [2858.84 --> 2863.96] that just you can i mean anyone can look at this on dram exchange something that went up drastically in
822
- [2863.96 --> 2871.72] price in the couple of weeks before rx vega's official launch so if i was amd i would be probably
823
- [2871.72 --> 2876.84] trying to ride it out until another competitor starts building hbm2 which is supposedly going
824
- [2876.84 --> 2883.08] to happen fairly soon and i would be um yeah like i wouldn't be going out of my way to produce a bunch
825
- [2883.08 --> 2890.36] of cards that i'm maybe not even making money on i'm just i'm speculating though yeah that's fair
826
- [2890.92 --> 2896.68] uh one thing i want to add i found i found the tweet he tweeted saying my website's down for now i guess a
827
- [2896.68 --> 2902.84] fanfic is popular even a gender swapped snapshot snapshot of a dream i had many years ago
828
- [2904.84 --> 2910.52] so is that him backpedaling on i don't even know how overt he wants to be
829
- [2910.52 --> 2915.96] about this forward pedal at all or did the internet just freak out maybe i don't know that could be a
830
- [2915.96 --> 2924.20] case i kind of think it's probably fairly not a big deal and i'm gonna make another wild assumption
831
- [2924.20 --> 2930.52] based on no information um because fake news is really fun man show man um but my idea here is that
832
- [2930.52 --> 2934.84] it's on his own website his pinned tweet is him trying to sell books that he's written he's trying
833
- [2934.84 --> 2939.40] to sell books that he's written an easy way to get a whole bunch of traffic to his website which did happen
834
- [2939.40 --> 2946.04] and to get more interest around him and his books is so if it had on the thing that he if it legitimately
835
- [2946.04 --> 2952.92] had nothing to do with any kind of planet valve then i think it's fine because i believe fanfic is
836
- [2952.92 --> 2958.28] like okay i think you're allowed to do that and letting the internet go full conspiracy theory
837
- [2959.72 --> 2964.92] is a great marketing tactic i don't know how long interesting took until he clarified it right
838
- [2964.92 --> 2973.48] i like your new theory i like that one the most um okay in other news uh this was from pcgames and
839
- [2973.48 --> 2979.88] dot com amd says they're trying to keep prices of rx vega low though so after the prices inflated after
840
- [2979.88 --> 2985.56] launch amd now says it's trying its best to get those prices to where we suggested when we launched them
841
- [2986.44 --> 2992.12] so they're amd's uh gerald youngblood says our sep so that's suggested prices and the price tag that we
842
- [2992.12 --> 2995.64] announced is our full intention of where we would suggest the product be priced not just for launch
843
- [2995.64 --> 2999.80] but ongoing they said the price surge due to overwhelming demand and that the filling of
844
- [2999.80 --> 3004.28] retailers inventory is key to getting the prices of vega down to their original pre-launch levels
845
- [3005.00 --> 3013.64] um yeah that makes sense uh but again so we're looking at amd having to um having to put pressure
846
- [3013.64 --> 3019.56] on retailers which a lot of the time manifests as like a rebate or something and you know that whole
847
- [3019.56 --> 3025.00] thing broke a little while ago we expressed our frustration with it yeah yeah again this is more
848
- [3025.00 --> 3034.12] evidence for amd not really having um much motivation to provide as much vega as they possibly can right
849
- [3034.12 --> 3044.44] now yeah because here's what you guys need to understand amd does not profit from the mining craze
850
- [3044.44 --> 3052.12] and from the prices being jacked up 200 on the shelf the retailer and or the opportunistic
851
- [3052.76 --> 3057.48] reseller who runs out to a store whenever they find it at regular price and then flips it on ebay they
852
- [3057.48 --> 3063.08] profit amd doesn't want that because they're effectively creating a bunch of hate in their
853
- [3063.08 --> 3068.20] community and a bunch of anger and they don't even get to make more money out of it yeah so you
854
- [3068.20 --> 3074.36] you shouldn't really think about this emotionally you have to think about it rationally it's it's not
855
- [3074.36 --> 3079.40] in amd's best interest unless they are actually raising the price of the product which is going
856
- [3079.40 --> 3088.52] to piss everyone off to have the street price be high yeah um so you know i've talked to them um i can't
857
- [3088.52 --> 3094.28] share everything that was shared with me but i'll say benefit of the doubt um i still and you can go back
858
- [3094.28 --> 3098.04] and watch last week's wanshow if you want to know what i'm upset about i'm still upset about pretty much all of
859
- [3098.04 --> 3103.96] it amd could have done a way better job of communicating the way that they were handling
860
- [3103.96 --> 3108.84] this launch pricing because if they had told me that it was going to be through rebates
861
- [3109.40 --> 3113.80] i would have known that the entire thing was going to be a cluster and this is okay so this is a
862
- [3113.80 --> 3118.52] situation where like i've never been on the other end so i don't know there's unknown variables here
863
- [3118.52 --> 3125.08] but sometimes the communication stuff that happens directed towards us from a wide variety of
864
- [3125.08 --> 3131.48] companies i'm not even going to narrow down to amd right now yeah is just very not good yeah and it
865
- [3131.48 --> 3141.24] doesn't seem that hard well it seems hard when you make things hard on yourself so a lot of the
866
- [3141.24 --> 3146.20] miscommunication around vega had to do with that they originally were going to just lift the embargo on
867
- [3146.20 --> 3151.32] vega 64 the flagship card and then at the last second decided to lift the embargo on 56.
868
- [3151.32 --> 3158.20] don't do that right but think about it this way it's not the people who are actually in the trenches
869
- [3158.20 --> 3163.56] with nvidia card in their right hand and upcoming amd card in their left hand testing them against each
870
- [3163.56 --> 3167.96] other who like actually know how this whole thing is going to shake down and how the press is going to
871
- [3167.96 --> 3173.72] react to it it's not those people making the decision unfortunately it's probably some executive
872
- [3173.72 --> 3179.88] making the decision and then ultimately and i told you so moment that takes place once the hardware is
873
- [3179.88 --> 3184.68] already in the hands of the reviewers and they get some initial feedback that hey this isn't going
874
- [3184.68 --> 3192.28] to be a super positive review because hey vega 64 is not crazy competitive like it's it's not a game
875
- [3192.28 --> 3201.96] changer guys um so some some executive who's in la la land probably got that feedback and was like okay
876
- [3201.96 --> 3207.32] fine let's do it your way let's launch the one that actually makes sense vega 56 at the same time so we
877
- [3207.32 --> 3211.56] don't end up with a bunch of negative press to lose our momentum that's probably how it went down
878
- [3211.56 --> 3216.76] and i'm speculating i told you guys i had a call with amd that was definitely not confirmed or talked
879
- [3216.76 --> 3222.84] about but that's what i would guess went on um and that's how these things keep happening because it was
880
- [3222.84 --> 3228.20] the same bloody thing with ryzen 7. originally they were going to roll out the skis two weeks apart
881
- [3228.20 --> 3232.52] and then the last second they're like oh no we're lifting the embargo on all of them and only a handful of
882
- [3232.52 --> 3237.32] press actually got them all because they couldn't get them to us in time someone in the chat was like
883
- [3237.32 --> 3241.08] okay i don't i don't know where the message is so i'm gonna verbatim this and i'm gonna get a little
884
- [3241.08 --> 3247.16] bit of it wrong sorry but someone in the chat said something along the lines of um yeah but you were just
885
- [3247.16 --> 3251.32] blinded by wanting the profits of releasing the video on launch day
886
- [3253.80 --> 3258.52] i don't think that's valid personally i wasn't a part of the video creation process for that
887
- [3258.52 --> 3265.24] but from my view i don't think it's being blinded when to be able to see that you would have had to
888
- [3265.24 --> 3270.04] make extremely wild drastic assumptions that wouldn't have made any sense in the moment
889
- [3271.08 --> 3276.20] um yeah and it has that would have been very a very weird thing to assume here's the thing is i
890
- [3276.20 --> 3282.92] think people underestimate how much profit there is in having a video up um a day or two earlier for
891
- [3282.92 --> 3287.56] us the main issue from what i heard yeah and like again the reason why i keep on putting this in is
892
- [3287.56 --> 3292.52] because i'm actually outside of the circle but the main issue that i heard was that we had a
893
- [3292.52 --> 3297.64] completed video yeah we did that would have been a problem if we released yeah because now there was
894
- [3297.64 --> 3303.72] new information so we were correcting a problem we were we were completely done our vega 64 launch
895
- [3303.72 --> 3309.64] video with the air cooled and the liquid cooled card someone says ldt is totally sellout we do sponsor
896
- [3309.64 --> 3316.04] spots yeah we do ads we work with companies but we are very transparent when we do so yeah and that has
897
- [3316.04 --> 3320.60] not wanting to repeat work that you've done because someone else made a terrible last minute decision
898
- [3320.60 --> 3326.84] that screws you over i think it's a perfectly reasonable stance yeah and as for getting content
899
- [3326.84 --> 3333.72] out on launch day honestly we don't make a bunch more money for doing that um a youtube view is not
900
- [3333.72 --> 3338.60] worth nearly as much as you might think in terms of monetary value so yeah we'll get a few more views
901
- [3338.60 --> 3346.12] but for me it's more about making sure that we are perceived as a place that you go when you go and
902
- [3346.12 --> 3353.72] get like graphics card news about a new card that launches and if you know let's say let's say we
903
- [3353.72 --> 3359.16] weren't able to bring people in on the weekend if our video goes up and it's just vega 64 and everyone
904
- [3359.16 --> 3364.20] else's video or written review goes up and it's vega 56 and vega 64 it makes us look stupid
905
- [3365.08 --> 3369.64] and we don't want that and we shouldn't have to work through the weekend in order to do that
906
- [3369.64 --> 3374.20] companies should be respectful of our time and our schedules and the fact that we have lives and kids
907
- [3374.20 --> 3381.48] and other things we have to deal with um that's the issue what about likes are they worth more profit no
908
- [3381.48 --> 3389.80] likes are worth nothing exactly zero um some guy said luke likes negative comments uh they can be helpful
909
- [3389.80 --> 3395.32] because if someone's thinking those things genuinely it's good to address it and uh help
910
- [3395.32 --> 3400.44] them understand that they're wrong absolutely um okay this was posted originally on the forum by
911
- [3401.32 --> 3405.08] james had like an hour to throw together the doc today so i don't blame him for it not being there
912
- [3405.08 --> 3409.72] numlock 21 yeah no and the original article here is from tom's hardware amd has gone into a little
913
- [3409.72 --> 3417.40] bit more detail about their epic and thread ripper chip designs uh claiming a 41 cost reduction which
914
- [3417.40 --> 3422.12] would actually account for the difference in price between amd's 16 core chip and intel's yeah
915
- [3423.08 --> 3431.16] which is pretty cool so they decided to go with um like this modular design versus a monolithic design
916
- [3431.16 --> 3437.72] because even though the modular design because of the interconnects is 10 percent higher in costs so 10
917
- [3437.72 --> 3445.00] percent more dye space apparently it saves so many failures allowing them to all right save so many
918
- [3445.00 --> 3451.32] failures that they can just take higher yield ones and quote-unquote glue them together that they
919
- [3451.32 --> 3457.80] actually reduce their cost by they estimate 41 that's pretty freaking cool that is actually very
920
- [3457.80 --> 3463.08] cool and that's very good for them specifically yeah to be honest and good for the consumer need to be
921
- [3463.08 --> 3468.76] making money so that they can actually keep doing things they like super do uh amazon has made its
922
- [3468.76 --> 3476.84] first big move with whole foods the original article here is from bloomberg um i was on prime members
923
- [3476.84 --> 3485.72] to get discounts at whole foods so you can pay just a uh less inflated price for groceries and paper
924
- [3485.72 --> 3491.96] bags instead of plastic bags because you're a giant hipster not that i'm judging i've shopped at whole foods
925
- [3491.96 --> 3498.44] um they also plan to make prime the customer rewards program at whole foods and products from
926
- [3498.44 --> 3503.32] whole foods private label 365 will be available on amazon they have not yet indicated a time frame
927
- [3503.32 --> 3506.84] for all these changes i technically have never shopped there but i've shopped at the like
928
- [3508.60 --> 3516.52] the like langley alternative oh okay yeah it's um it's it's so it's so funny it's uh smells like health
929
- [3516.52 --> 3522.44] food the structure of it is very much like a um like a chain clothing store like a hollister i think
930
- [3522.44 --> 3526.76] is the one that always smells like cedar wood is it hollister i don't i don't i don't know which
931
- [3526.76 --> 3531.64] clothing stores but um you know how you walk into the last time i was in a mall and they like feel
932
- [3531.64 --> 3537.80] really unique and then you go to another one of the same store somewhere else and it's exactly the
933
- [3537.80 --> 3545.72] same flavor of totally unique where it's this very um contrived yeah uh you know we do this totally
934
- [3545.72 --> 3550.76] differently than everybody else so uh yeah no i shopped at whole foods i think i've been there
935
- [3550.76 --> 3555.80] twice okay once because it was the only thing within walking distance of my hotel yeah and another
936
- [3555.80 --> 3563.64] time because i really needed an ice cream bar and i bought the only like with fat with dairy with
937
- [3563.64 --> 3568.12] gluten ice cream bar in the whole store actually no i think it was gluten-free by the way if you're in
938
- [3568.12 --> 3574.68] vancouver i believe this weekend or maybe only for one specific day but look it up uber is like coming
939
- [3574.68 --> 3581.72] here now to vancouver finally and i believe they're showing up by doing free ice cream bar deliveries
940
- [3582.28 --> 3587.08] oh but i think it's only in vancouver sick i don't think they're doing all uber all the way out here if
941
- [3587.08 --> 3592.36] they are doing uber all the way out here i am getting my free ice cream bar actually even if not
942
- [3592.36 --> 3597.00] i might just like go down there to get a free ice cream bar because i'm going down there on saturday
943
- [3597.00 --> 3603.56] anyways what else do we have uh this is from bloomberg uh apple reported to unveil a new apple tv that'll be
944
- [3603.56 --> 3612.04] faster 4k hdr video blippity bloppity pixel 2 is coming october 5th rumor rumor rumor originally
945
- [3612.04 --> 3621.80] posted by techcrunch and um yep it looks like a phone it looks like a phone it looks like a pixel
946
- [3622.68 --> 3629.24] it has a thing here that's kind of pixely yeah the bezels are smaller a lot smaller yeah way smaller
947
- [3629.24 --> 3637.00] snapdragon 836 uh it could have front facing speakers i love that note that's my favorite note
948
- [3637.00 --> 3643.96] from today apparently a two to one aspect ratio okay i know that mathematically there's no reason
949
- [3644.52 --> 3653.24] to call um oh what is it yeah to call 16 by 10 16 by 10 right you could just as easily call it 8 by 5
950
- [3653.24 --> 3660.44] yeah but for the sake of making life a little easier i kind of wish everyone would go like by 9
951
- [3661.24 --> 3669.64] since we all know what 16 by 9 is yeah but the what is a two to one aspect ratio so that would be
952
- [3669.64 --> 3674.92] 18 by 9 i guess yeah 18 by 9 but the fact that i have to convert it all the time
953
- [3674.92 --> 3679.16] it's gonna drive me crazy to be fair this probably affects almost no one but you
954
- [3679.16 --> 3684.60] so there's some rumors but i do understand where you're coming from uh 4.97 inch 1080p display for
955
- [3684.60 --> 3691.16] the smaller one with a uh six inch on the larger xl apparently it'll be provided by lg it'll support uh
956
- [3691.16 --> 3697.96] it'll sport four gigs of ram on board internal storage might get boosted to 64 gigs and uh it's probably got
957
- [3697.96 --> 3705.40] a great camera it might there's a lot of like it could it might yeah uh there's a it might drop the
958
- [3705.40 --> 3711.40] headphone port but like might have front-facing speakers it might have squeezable sides it might
959
- [3711.40 --> 3719.48] have bluetooth well it might be able to connect to the internet okay we don't know maybe they're
960
- [3719.48 --> 3727.88] going with the uh world's first modern smartphone without the internet wi-fi hotspot only i think we're
961
- [3727.88 --> 3732.04] probably done with this week and thank you for watching the show we will see you again next week
962
- [3732.04 --> 3737.24] same bad time same bad channel oh spacex photos of the new spacesuit are actually super cool have
963
- [3737.24 --> 3742.68] you seen these fine you can do that i know i'm a fanboy but like they're pretty neat um all right fine
964
- [3742.68 --> 3747.32] we'll look at the new space wait these aren't the ones that i saw these aren't as cool oh they're still
965
- [3747.32 --> 3754.20] pretty cool those don't look that amazing no where's the cool ones those are just spacesuits where's the
966
- [3754.20 --> 3760.68] cool ones yeah i think you're just i think you're done i think that's the wrong article that is the wrong
967
- [3760.68 --> 3766.04] article okay here's the right article dang it james for throwing this together in an hour and screwing
968
- [3766.04 --> 3773.08] up one thing so far it also doesn't have the other photo whatever let's talk about floatplane stuff yeah
969
- [3773.08 --> 3780.36] floatplane not dead not dead definitely not dead doing great actually had a meeting today people were
970
- [3780.36 --> 3786.92] cool thanks for showing up guys that work on floatplane uh outdoor gaming the ultimate camping battle
971
- [3786.92 --> 3790.60] station i think we need a new thumbnail for this one that makes it more clear that we are in the
972
- [3790.60 --> 3797.48] middle of a forest gaming on like a freaking awesome gaming pc um let's see mezzanine update i forgot to
973
- [3797.48 --> 3802.84] upload that i did at the last minute there this is a really cool video i think a lot of you will like it
974
- [3803.88 --> 3810.20] we designed the ultimate gaming tv have you seen this have you heard about this no so um alex and i worked
975
- [3810.20 --> 3818.04] on this together and we basically conceptualized what uh what a perfect tv for gamers would be
976
- [3819.16 --> 3824.04] and this is just a couple of we've probably got somewhere between six and ten features
977
- [3824.68 --> 3830.20] that tv makers for whatever reason have their heads too far up their rectums i think i heard about one of
978
- [3830.20 --> 3836.20] the features okay so one of them was an integrated um what's that stupid thing called that you have that
979
- [3836.20 --> 3843.40] um uh analog to digital converter whoa what's that thing called again frame meister the frame meister
980
- [3843.40 --> 3849.88] so is it actually a frame meister so think about it think about this it doesn't have to be no as long
981
- [3849.88 --> 3855.48] as it was something quite similar so the frame meister actually here we're no okay we got frame meister
982
- [3855.48 --> 3861.48] probably like a little too overkill for most yes so it costs about 400 for a frame meister which is this
983
- [3861.48 --> 3867.40] external box that takes your analog source like a super nintendo or playstation one and converts it to
984
- [3867.40 --> 3875.24] hdmi with next to no latency because as you may or may not have noticed your tv if it takes in an analog
985
- [3875.24 --> 3881.48] source does a couple of things number one is even compared to its normal input lag it adds even more
986
- [3881.48 --> 3890.20] lag and number two is it does a crap-tastic job of the conversion it'll look like garbage so the frame meister
987
- [3890.20 --> 3896.52] does a great job of both of those things yeah at 400 it's a lot it's a lot but when you look at a
988
- [3896.52 --> 3901.80] premium tv you look at the bomb cost of a premium tv we're talking like five six seven thousand us
989
- [3901.80 --> 3908.04] dollars is it unreasonable to think a couple of things number one that by cheaping out on some
990
- [3908.04 --> 3914.28] stuff we don't care about like how thin it is that they could find some of that cost to spend on
991
- [3914.28 --> 3919.16] good analog to digital conversion and number two that they could achieve economies of scale that would
992
- [3919.16 --> 3922.84] make a frame meister cost a lot less it's not expensive hardware really aren't that many
993
- [3922.84 --> 3927.72] frame meisters that's one of the reasons why they're so expensive exactly so anyway that was
994
- [3927.72 --> 3934.84] one of the ideas so retro gamers could game on their new tv and have a not crap experience um so we've
995
- [3934.84 --> 3940.04] got a bunch of other ideas um a modular system for the speakers yeah that's the one thing i had heard
996
- [3940.04 --> 3944.84] about so you can take them off they just clip on and they have like just contacts that go or you could
997
- [3944.84 --> 3949.72] take them off reposition them run speaker wire and then you could add like the rest of a kit or
998
- [3949.72 --> 3955.72] something like that um display port in was one of the things we asked for so there's a bunch of stuff
999
- [3955.72 --> 3965.00] a lot of which would be very low cost to implement um a return to front io right yeah like come on bring
1000
- [3965.00 --> 3970.36] back i always nice i don't mind a little chin bar you know give me and so front uh front usb charging
1001
- [3970.36 --> 3978.52] ports for controllers um for like uh vr accessories things like that so there's just a bunch of stuff
1002
- [3978.52 --> 3983.48] we came up with we designed what we think is a gaming tv and we would love for the tv industry to
1003
- [3984.20 --> 3992.04] you know maybe wake the crap up uh we took a look at the first all amd gaming pc from dell it's like
1004
- [3992.04 --> 3997.00] taped onto the side well yeah but there's an actual chip inside too that was for illustrative purposes luke
1005
- [3997.00 --> 4005.08] that's awesome how many pcie extensions is too many and the answer is a lot was it still working
1006
- [4005.08 --> 4011.64] then you bet oh my god um that's crazy organization vlog day one wow we've actually got a lot of good
1007
- [4011.64 --> 4016.76] stuff on here right now cool the last uh last week i think it was i wasn't that enamored with a lot of
1008
- [4016.76 --> 4024.28] it organization vlog day one so this is basically a return to moving vlog this was what i watched the
1009
- [4024.28 --> 4028.92] trailer for this yeah there's a trailer have you not seen the trailer i haven't seen the trailer we
1010
- [4028.92 --> 4033.08] should play the trailer oh my goodness okay give me one second i will get the trailer is it on
1011
- [4033.08 --> 4039.08] facebook or something nick send it to me what okay yeah forward it to me in the meantime um what else
1012
- [4039.08 --> 4045.32] do we got i think there's at least one other like pretty pretty cool one um let me just make sure that
1013
- [4045.32 --> 4049.40] there's anything in here that we don't there was another one that i thought people were gonna like
1014
- [4049.40 --> 4054.44] i don't know if we're allowed to share this allowed to share the trailer i guess you own the company so
1015
- [4054.44 --> 4059.56] yeah okay yeah sure let's let's share it sick let's just let's just straight up yolo it um
1016
- [4060.76 --> 4068.28] okay hangouts to me well cool okay so i'm gonna go hide the url yeah i'm doing it i'm doing it i'm
1017
- [4068.28 --> 4074.52] going full screen so i don't screw myself again okay and oh man i don't know if i i don't know if i've got
1018
- [4074.52 --> 4080.04] sound over hdmi right now i don't know if you guys are going to hear any of this um so i apologize
1019
- [4080.04 --> 4085.00] in advance if everything is the audio is super helpful is it okay i'm just going to turn up the
1020
- [4085.00 --> 4091.96] speakers we're going the janky way yeah janky way all right all right here we go because this is great
1021
- [4092.84 --> 4098.92] okay here we go on a screen let's get rid of us we're boring yep i mean we're cool but we're not as
1022
- [4098.92 --> 4111.40] cool as this apparently why are there nerds are tough here oh what was that a 1070 might have been
1023
- [4111.40 --> 4118.20] a 1070 as long as linus doesn't find out everything will be okay people get this perception that i'm
1024
- [4118.20 --> 4120.68] like some kind of like nazi mean boss
1025
- [4120.68 --> 4132.44] watch now on float plane so yeah that's actually super sick who did that uh that was a prime oh
1026
- [4132.44 --> 4140.76] cool as far as i know that is a dank af edit so if you want to see what that trailer results in yeah
1027
- [4140.76 --> 4146.68] that's on full plane right now go check it out yeah and there's going to be three episodes of uh of
1028
- [4146.68 --> 4152.92] new moving vlog so organization vlog uh over the next over the next few weeks yeah and uh now's as
1029
- [4152.92 --> 4157.00] good a time as any to sign up for float plane because don't forget guys that scrapyard wars
1030
- [4157.00 --> 4162.68] season six will also be coming one week early to float plane so yes it's gonna be good yes all
1031
- [4162.68 --> 4168.20] right see you guys again next week same bat time same bat channel thank you for watching
1032
- [4168.20 --> 4173.80] we'll see you next time i'm gonna fix this thing before i get confused next week there we go cool
1033
- [4176.68 --> 4190.68] what was that day can you scroll that up oh god
1034
- [4195.96 --> 4201.32] oh oh that's no i understand the question uh wants to know if i don't know when that's happening
1035
- [4201.32 --> 4206.84] yeah i don't know either that's a good question um someone wanted who is this uh booger bomb oh one
1036
- [4206.84 --> 4211.48] wanted to know if all the construction mezzanine update videos that were exclusive will still be on
1037
- [4211.48 --> 4217.72] the platform once we finally accept payment methods other than paypal um tell you what i will
1038
- [4217.72 --> 4229.32] oh the mezzanine yeah i'll i'll find it we'll find a way to get them up yeah yeah okay there
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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- [7.06 --> 10.88] And also all of you people who are watching cuz, you know, let's face it
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- [11.46 --> 15.88] You and I are the one- no, I'm saying that we're like we're friends. Oh, okay. I'm not saying we're not
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- [15.88 --> 21.08] You're just- But they're internet friends. You- yes, they're internet friends, but that is totally a different classification
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- [21.60 --> 27.40] Jake calls me an internet friend. Does he really? He does. Even though you actually are in the same building as each other
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- [27.40 --> 30.84] Literally. At least like four to six hours a day. And the first time I met him was in person.
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- [30.84 --> 38.56] Right. No, he's wrong. So an internet friend, we can like we can actually define this fairly easily. An internet friend to me
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- [57.40 --> 64.72] Okay. Is that fair? So like a con or something. Yes. Like they're in it like you met them at a convention a while ago
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- [64.72 --> 71.02] Or you met them online. Oh, yeah, okay. And then oh, we both happen to go to PAX. Yes. I see them at PAX once a year
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- [71.14 --> 75.16] They're still an internet friend. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah
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- [75.40 --> 79.20] You got any other sort of ways to define what an internet friend is? Um
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- [79.20 --> 84.02] Um, no, I think that's pretty good. I think you could meet them in person first still
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- [84.58 --> 90.10] Really? Yeah, because like for instance there was at landcouver. Okay. I met a dude who's sitting right next to me
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- [90.10 --> 92.82] Do you have to meet them somewhere techie? Can I just jump in with that?
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- [92.82 --> 94.82] I think that would help a lot. Okay
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- [94.82 --> 99.04] Okay, but I think I think it has to do with like the percentage of interaction
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- [103.34 --> 108.08] And pretty much all that happened was I was like hey, what's that game that you're playing and he's like it's this
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- [111.92 --> 115.22] Maybe I'll get it. He was like sure. I'll play with you add me on Steam
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- [115.22 --> 123.70] Never talked to him at all outside of that interaction in person and then only talked to him online for like years past that
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- [123.70 --> 130.86] Okay, so I think you're pretty safely internet friend zone. Yeah, that guy. Yeah now let me hit you with a different one. So
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- [135.30 --> 140.56] Okay, okay, so I'm there for like a week but see that that's the I think that's one of the differentiators
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- [140.56 --> 144.78] This isn't necessarily a techie thing that you're talking about, but you're kind of locked in this situation
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- [144.78 --> 149.36] Yeah, you committed to go here. Yes, I had to be there. You're staying there. You actually can't leave
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- [150.64 --> 153.16] Not allowed
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- [153.16 --> 161.34] Not even just the payment thing. It's in like hope so you're not there's nowhere to go anyways the thing about the british colombian city of hope
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- [161.34 --> 166.70] Your only hope is that the name's a little ironic
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- [181.56 --> 183.44] Does this say Bible camp?
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- [185.88 --> 191.56] Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we exchange MSN because that's what we had dude. I miss them in those days
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- [191.56 --> 198.90] Oh, I miss them was so we spent the next year MSN in constantly but didn't see each other for an entire year
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- [200.34 --> 204.24] Then after the following year Bible camp we start dating
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- [204.24 --> 211.46] Is she because it develops into something else is she still an internet friend for that first year?
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- [212.94 --> 218.24] This is even more wild because I've only ever actually thought of the concept is because these are what my friends do
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- [218.24 --> 221.14] I've only thought of the concept as internet friend as gamers
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- [222.52 --> 227.68] Because anyone that I had like extended conversations with that we weren't gaming
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- [227.68 --> 230.56] Mm-hmm was like people that went to my school
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- [230.56 --> 234.20] So they were definitely real life friends because I saw them daily got it right
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- [234.20 --> 240.58] So I think that is a real life friend that transition to an internet friend that transition to a girlfriend
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- [240.58 --> 247.58] That is a real life person. Okay, that's a lot of transitions. I think you guys flip-flopped a little bit. Okay. I think there was some flopping
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- [247.58 --> 252.02] Okay, got it got it internet friend flopping do the friend flop. Yeah
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- [258.18 --> 261.78] So we got a great show for you guys today contrary to what you might think
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- [264.88 --> 272.66] Main news topics AMD RX Vega specs leaked Wow surprising so this is the the gaming version of Vega
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- [274.62 --> 284.50] Number two how is it just all AMD news no one saw that coming the Ryzen 5 1600 becomes the second best selling CPU on Amazon
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- [295.44 --> 304.06] This is kind of a part two of that news story the rumor has officially been squashed AMD having taking 10% market share from Intel is not a thing
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- [437.18 --> 442.98] Okay, I learned something else today. Montreal is the third largest porn producing city in the world after LA and Amsterdam
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- [442.98 --> 449.02] Wow, I had no clue at all. I love that the first response of that so proud of my city
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- [457.12 --> 463.38] So this was originally posted by mr. Troll on the forum and the source for this one is WCCF tech so
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- [469.02 --> 472.62] I'm just gonna drop that in there real quick. I really like this new design
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- [472.62 --> 478.52] That looks a lot better than the frontier edition. It does. I love the blacked out PCI Express bracket
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- [478.52 --> 483.62] It's little touches like that that make a big difference and actually this logo
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- [483.62 --> 491.34] I really didn't like it black on blue it okay, but ran on black really sick like this honestly the whole time
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- [498.52 --> 501.80] Yeah, but without being too overtly that
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- [502.62 --> 508.52] Yeah, I like it. Yeah, it's kind of got like a Batman the animated series kind of vibe to it
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- [512.08 --> 516.54] Back to like how graphics cards get to look yeah, because lately it's just been like
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- [516.98 --> 520.92] Well, the only high-performance graphics cards that have existed have been in videos
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- [522.00 --> 527.04] And they're gray and they are they look sharp they're black yes some
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- [550.16 --> 553.38] Shut up you can it was fun. You can miss it was fun
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- [553.38 --> 557.74] You can miss it in a nostalgic way, but you would not put that in your system today
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- [562.84 --> 567.30] I'm not letting you change the subject admit it. You would not put that in your system today
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- [567.30 --> 573.92] I would no you would know you wouldn't would no you wouldn't upgrade me to ten ATIs. I'll do it. No
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- [573.92 --> 579.88] They don't there aren't even any there's nothing that's bad anymore get it. There is nothing that
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- [587.76 --> 590.74] I'm sure they've looked into it at some point, okay
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- [592.50 --> 598.86] Okay, not bad, but this is what we're talking about but like it's not kind of crap that used to be on high-end
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- [598.86 --> 605.12] Okay, but pull me back out camo and like some why are these all the same thing did you look up this yeah?
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- [622.54 --> 628.64] Okay, they're pretty cool. Those all look fine. Okay. No, no, but let's go back to like you know
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- [653.62 --> 661.44] Like no you would not be putting that jank bullcrap in your system. It's all about performance, man
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- [1296.22 --> 1300.22] Is they not only delivered something that performs well in the benchmarks
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- [1301.22 --> 1304.22] But they delivered something that looks great on paper
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- [1304.22 --> 1305.22] Sounds good
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- [1306.22 --> 1308.22] This one has eight processing cores and 16 threads
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- [1309.22 --> 1311.22] Even if you don't understand what that means sounds like a lot
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- [1312.22 --> 1313.22] It's a lot it's double
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- [1314.22 --> 1315.22] That's a high number
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- [1316.22 --> 1317.22] What the comparably priced Intel one would be
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- [1318.22 --> 1319.22] Yeah
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- [1320.22 --> 1321.22] That is fantastic
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- [1322.22 --> 1323.22] Synergy
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- [1324.22 --> 1325.22] To use the probably the word they used
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- [1326.22 --> 1328.22] Synergy between the marketing team and sales team and engineering team
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- [1328.22 --> 1329.22] Yeah
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- [1329.22 --> 1330.22] Yeah
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- [1331.22 --> 1332.22] Yeah
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- [1333.22 --> 1334.22] So you got to give them full credit for that
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- [1335.22 --> 1337.22] And like having worked selling computers before it totally works
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- [1338.22 --> 1339.22] Oh yeah
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- [1340.22 --> 1341.22] And like you might even be like this one is better
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- [1342.22 --> 1343.22] And someone will read the numbers on the sheet and be like
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- [1344.22 --> 1345.22] I don't care
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- [1346.22 --> 1347.22] You're trying to upsell me
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- [1348.22 --> 1349.22] You're a jerk
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- [1349.22 --> 1350.22] Because this one says it has more numbers
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- [1351.22 --> 1352.22] And it's like oh
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- [1352.22 --> 1353.22] Well then the frustrating thing is that like
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- [1354.22 --> 1355.22] They could be right a lot of the time
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- [1356.22 --> 1358.22] Like I was always the sales guy that was like
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- [1359.22 --> 1360.22] I would upsell
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- [1361.22 --> 1363.22] But I would upsell because people would walk in
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- [1364.22 --> 1367.22] Wanting to buy an Athlon 64 3500 plus
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- [1368.22 --> 1369.22] Or 3700 plus or whatever
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- [1370.22 --> 1371.22] I think 3700 plus was an FX
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- [1372.22 --> 1373.22] I worked with a different clientele
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- [1374.22 --> 1375.22] So I was often down selling
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- [1375.22 --> 1377.22] So they would walk in and they would want like a single
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- [1378.22 --> 1379.22] Like a high-end single core
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- [1380.22 --> 1381.22] And I'd be like whoa whoa hold on
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- [1382.22 --> 1383.22] Okay for a hundred bucks more
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- [1384.22 --> 1385.22] And you're already spending like $500
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- [1386.22 --> 1388.22] For a hundred bucks more I want you to buy this
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- [1389.22 --> 1390.22] It's an entry-level dual core
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- [1391.22 --> 1392.22] You're gonna like it
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- [1393.22 --> 1394.22] And they'd be like
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- [1395.22 --> 1396.22] They'd come in the next week and they'd be like
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- [1397.22 --> 1398.22] Getting a new keyboard or something
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- [1399.22 --> 1400.22] Be like holy crap
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- [1401.22 --> 1402.22] I am so glad that you sold me that
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- [1403.22 --> 1404.22] And I spent the extra hundred bucks
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- [1404.22 --> 1405.22] My buddy has this one
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- [1406.22 --> 1407.22] Because they'd be like buying whatever their friend had
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- [1408.22 --> 1409.22] Or whatever
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- [1410.22 --> 1411.22] They run circles around it
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- [1411.22 --> 1412.22] He can't even believe it
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- [1412.22 --> 1413.22] He's gonna be in next week to buy one
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- [1414.22 --> 1415.22] I'm like yeah dog
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- [1416.22 --> 1417.22] That's what's up
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- [1418.22 --> 1419.22] That's cool
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- [1420.22 --> 1421.22] And like I always liked people getting a good value
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- [1422.22 --> 1423.22] Even if I didn't necessarily get them a cheap price
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- [1424.22 --> 1425.22] Because that to me is what spending your money smartly is about
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- [1426.22 --> 1427.22] About not having to replace something
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- [1428.22 --> 1430.22] Nine months or twelve months from now
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- [1430.22 --> 1432.22] When you could have spent an extra hundred bucks now
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- [1433.22 --> 1435.22] To keep it for two or three years
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- [1436.22 --> 1439.22] And there's like there's some impossible metrics there
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- [1440.22 --> 1443.22] Like I hate it when someone will come in and ask like
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- [1444.22 --> 1447.22] Hey, I get questions about this with my 2600k old
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- [1447.22 --> 1448.22] Yeah
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- [1449.22 --> 1450.22] I had my 2600k for a super long time
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- [1451.22 --> 1452.22] I was streaming with it doing all this other kind of stuff
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- [1453.22 --> 1454.22] And they're like hey I just bought this processor
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- [1455.22 --> 1459.22] Is this gonna last me as long as your 2600k it lasted you?
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- [1460.22 --> 1463.22] And I'm like man that is way too big of a timeframe
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- [1464.22 --> 1465.22] It's like me to tell you yes or no
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- [1465.22 --> 1467.22] I can't give you the right answer to the wrong question
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- [1468.22 --> 1469.22] Yeah like this isn't
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- [1470.22 --> 1471.22] You know?
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- [1471.22 --> 1472.22] I can't I really can't do this
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- [1472.22 --> 1473.22] I don't know
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- [1473.22 --> 1474.22] What if like randomly
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- [1475.22 --> 1476.22] VR
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- [1476.22 --> 1477.22] Some crazy new technology
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- [1477.22 --> 1478.22] Yeah
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- [1478.22 --> 1479.22] Shows up
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- [1479.22 --> 1481.22] Yeah and unlike VR it actually like really super catches on
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- [1482.22 --> 1483.22] And everyone's doing it
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- [1484.22 --> 1485.22] Oh burn! Burn!
349
- [1486.22 --> 1490.22] And like only processors within the last two generations are able to do it
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- [1490.22 --> 1494.22] Because they have some weird technology on die and yours doesn't have it
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- [1495.22 --> 1497.22] And you're now pissed at me because I said you'd be good for that long
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- [1497.22 --> 1499.22] Like I can't I really can't do that
353
- [1500.22 --> 1503.22] But like there are certain things that are rather obvious
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- [1503.22 --> 1505.22] Like hey dual cores just came out
355
- [1506.22 --> 1508.22] And look they're like way better
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- [1509.22 --> 1511.22] At basically everything than single cores are
357
- [1511.22 --> 1515.22] But still the single most expensive computer component that I ever bought for myself
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- [1515.22 --> 1520.22] Was an Athlon 64 4400 plus on launch
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- [1521.22 --> 1524.22] Like before we were talking about things being like business expenses
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- [1525.22 --> 1526.22] Yeah
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- [1527.22 --> 1528.22] And I also okay
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- [1529.22 --> 1533.22] You could probably argue the two 7900 GTX's that I bought at the same time
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- [1534.22 --> 1535.22] But
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- [1536.22 --> 1537.22] It's two products
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- [1538.22 --> 1540.22] And I got those I had them less than a week
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- [1540.22 --> 1543.22] Cause I bought them used off a guy who was flipping them
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- [1544.22 --> 1546.22] And who was just like he was moving to Crossfire
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- [1547.22 --> 1550.22] At the time Crossfire was bad
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- [1551.22 --> 1553.22] So he was going to Crossfire
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- [1554.22 --> 1555.22] And I
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- [1556.22 --> 1560.22] I got them from him for like a hundred dollars below market value each
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- [1561.22 --> 1563.22] And then I flipped them for what they were worth
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- [1564.22 --> 1565.22] So I had them for like a week
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- [1565.22 --> 1567.22] Just to tool around with them
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- [1568.22 --> 1570.22] Just to just to bask in what it was like
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- [1571.22 --> 1572.22] Yeah
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- [1572.22 --> 1573.22] To run a top of the line SLI gaming setup
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- [1574.22 --> 1575.22] And like you know
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- [1576.22 --> 1579.22] Even though I was following all the rumors and everything like that
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- [1580.22 --> 1581.22] The used market
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- [1582.22 --> 1584.22] Hardware values are not the same as the retail market
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- [1585.22 --> 1587.22] They're affected by things like rumors
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- [1588.22 --> 1589.22] Yeah
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- [1589.22 --> 1591.22] So as soon as a rumor dropped
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- [1592.22 --> 1593.22] That something else was coming
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- [1593.22 --> 1596.22] I knew that $200 was going to be dropped off the value of those
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- [1597.22 --> 1598.22] Each of them instantly
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- [1599.22 --> 1600.22] So I was like I was like holding on to them like this
389
- [1601.22 --> 1602.22] I was like I gotta get rid of these things
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- [1603.22 --> 1604.22] I gotta get rid of these things
391
- [1605.22 --> 1606.22] But that didn't stop me from like playing Far Cry and stuff
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- [1607.22 --> 1608.22] Yeah, yeah, yeah
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- [1609.22 --> 1610.22] Far Cry 1?
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- [1611.22 --> 1612.22] Yeah dawg
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- [1613.22 --> 1615.22] It was like there were things that like really irked me about it
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- [1616.22 --> 1617.22] Like the fact that
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- [1617.22 --> 1620.22] There were organic creatures
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- [1621.22 --> 1623.22] That you could hit like six times with a rocket launcher
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- [1624.22 --> 1625.22] And they wouldn't die
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- [1626.22 --> 1627.22] And like rocket ammo was like every game
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- [1628.22 --> 1629.22] Like was pretty limited
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- [1630.22 --> 1633.22] Like if I'm carrying around rocket launcher ammo
403
- [1634.22 --> 1635.22] Like let me use it
404
- [1636.22 --> 1637.22] Have fun with it a little bit
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- [1638.22 --> 1639.22] Yeah, like it should leave a gaping crater
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- [1640.22 --> 1641.22] The size of you know
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- [1642.22 --> 1643.22] A freaking football helmet
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- [1644.22 --> 1645.22] In the side of this thing at least
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- [1645.22 --> 1646.22] Yeah, yeah
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- [1646.22 --> 1647.22] You know?
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- [1650.22 --> 1651.22] Anyway, sorry we...
412
- [1652.22 --> 1653.22] Wow, we are not staying on topic very well here
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- [1654.22 --> 1655.22] That's probably a fish
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- [1656.22 --> 1660.22] In other news, AMD's R7 1700 is in fourth place as well
415
- [1661.22 --> 1664.22] With that said, this was originally posted by RevSilverspine on the forum
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- [1664.22 --> 1678.22] The rumor that AMD managed to gain 10.4 percentage points of CPU market share in the second quarter of 2017 is a little misleading because the data is from a self-selected survey
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- [1679.22 --> 1682.22] And they're putting it very mildly here
418
- [1682.22 --> 1684.22] So the original article is from Seeking Alpha here
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- [1685.22 --> 1696.22] AMD customers are more likely to self-report on AMD's increased sales and market share
420
- [1697.22 --> 1698.22] Really?
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- [1699.22 --> 1700.22] AMD customers...
422
- [1701.22 --> 1702.22] Wow!
423
- [1702.22 --> 1712.22] I mean to be clear, any fan of any company is likely to self-report at a rate that's higher than the actual numbers would be
424
- [1713.22 --> 1716.22] But, how do I put this lightly?
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- [1717.22 --> 1720.22] AMD fans, you guys are...
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- [1721.22 --> 1722.22] Enthusiastic
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- [1722.22 --> 1724.22] Very enthusiastic about AMD
428
- [1729.22 --> 1730.22] Moving on...
429
- [1730.22 --> 1731.22] Which is good, that's good
430
- [1732.22 --> 1733.22] Yeah, we need arguments on the internet
431
- [1736.22 --> 1737.22] More of them at least, you know?
432
- [1738.22 --> 1739.22] Yes, we need at least
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- [1740.22 --> 1741.22] AMD versus Intel
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- [1742.22 --> 1743.22] AMD versus Nvidia
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- [1745.22 --> 1746.22] AMD
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- [1747.22 --> 1748.22] Versus power
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- [1748.22 --> 1749.22] Yeah
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- [1749.22 --> 1750.22] Yeah
439
- [1750.22 --> 1751.22] And AMD versus...
440
- [1751.22 --> 1752.22] Just...
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- [1753.22 --> 1754.22] Cyrix
442
- [1755.22 --> 1756.22] Alright
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- [1757.22 --> 1758.22] Tesla
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- [1759.22 --> 1763.22] To build the world's biggest lithium-ion battery in South Australia
445
- [1764.22 --> 1765.22] This was posted by...
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- [1766.22 --> 1767.22] Disatexsubo11s
447
- [1768.22 --> 1769.22] What kind of name is that?
448
- [1769.22 --> 1772.22] On the forum, the original article is from abc.au
449
- [1772.22 --> 1775.22] So, yeah, the headline there is...
450
- [1776.22 --> 1777.22] Pretty self-explanatory
451
- [1778.22 --> 1781.22] But, basically the point is that they're promising to build it in a hundred days
452
- [1782.22 --> 1783.22] Or it'll be free
453
- [1784.22 --> 1786.22] And this world's largest lithium-ion battery
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- [1787.22 --> 1788.22] will be...
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- [1789.22 --> 1790.22] able to store energy
456
- [1791.22 --> 1793.22] or will be used to store energy from a nearby wind farm
457
- [1794.22 --> 1798.22] And it's like the free thing, it would cost them 50 million dollars
458
- [1799.22 --> 1800.22] Yeah, so basically...
459
- [1800.22 --> 1801.22] Kind of a big deal
460
- [1801.22 --> 1802.22] So, basically...
461
- [1802.22 --> 1803.22] Musk has issued a challenge to his own company
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- [1804.22 --> 1805.22] to build it in a reasonable amount of time
463
- [1806.22 --> 1807.22] or eat the cost of it
464
- [1807.22 --> 1810.22] which will be like huge PR either way, I guess
465
- [1811.22 --> 1812.22] I think that's part of the point is
466
- [1813.22 --> 1814.22] I'm pretty sure he's sure that he can do it
467
- [1815.22 --> 1816.22] and this is a marketing stunt essentially
468
- [1817.22 --> 1818.22] for other countries
469
- [1819.22 --> 1820.22] Not necessarily other people, but for other countries
470
- [1821.22 --> 1822.22] Yeah
471
- [1822.22 --> 1823.22] To be like, look, we can beef up your infrastructure super fast
472
- [1824.22 --> 1825.22] and like...
473
- [1825.22 --> 1826.22] Right
474
- [1826.22 --> 1827.22] This is how confident we are
475
- [1827.22 --> 1828.22] And to be clear, this is a risk on both sides
476
- [1828.22 --> 1829.22] This is basically like...
477
- [1829.22 --> 1830.22] Yeah
478
- [1830.22 --> 1831.22] This is like a bet
479
- [1831.22 --> 1832.22] It's like...
480
- [1832.22 --> 1833.22] Yeah
481
- [1833.22 --> 1834.22] If I can build it in a hundred days, you pay for it
482
- [1835.22 --> 1836.22] And if I go over the time limit
483
- [1837.22 --> 1838.22] I'll pay for it
484
- [1838.22 --> 1839.22] I'll pay for it
485
- [1839.22 --> 1840.22] Yeah
486
- [1840.22 --> 1841.22] Wow
487
- [1841.22 --> 1842.22] Which is pretty wild
488
- [1842.22 --> 1844.22] It's an easy stunt for him to get this tech out there
489
- [1844.22 --> 1845.22] on a much larger scale
490
- [1846.22 --> 1848.22] than something like a home based battery
491
- [1849.22 --> 1853.22] where, sure, you're able to take advantage of off peak grid power
492
- [1854.22 --> 1855.22] Yeah
493
- [1855.22 --> 1856.22] And then use it during peak hours, save some money, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
494
- [1857.22 --> 1858.22] No, no, this...
495
- [1859.22 --> 1863.22] Now we're talking about taking energy that was stored while it was windy
496
- [1863.22 --> 1865.22] and using it once the wind dies down
497
- [1866.22 --> 1867.22] Very freaking cool
498
- [1867.22 --> 1872.22] So South Australia has been battling power problems since a statewide blackout in September 2016
499
- [1872.22 --> 1878.22] and this could really change the way that renewable energy is stored
500
- [1878.22 --> 1879.22] So, very cool
501
- [1880.22 --> 1882.22] But, and we've got another two-parter here
502
- [1882.22 --> 1885.22] The original article here is from batteriesinternational.com
503
- [1885.22 --> 1890.22] The Germans have announced that they will be building the world's biggest battery
504
- [1891.22 --> 1892.22] In underground caverns
505
- [1893.22 --> 1894.22] Which makes it, like, even cooler
506
- [1894.22 --> 1896.22] Because it's like the battery cave
507
- [1897.22 --> 1898.22] Oh, wow
508
- [1898.22 --> 1899.22] Oh, yeah, I went there
509
- [1899.22 --> 1900.22] Did you come up with that on the spot?
510
- [1900.22 --> 1901.22] Yeah, dog
511
- [1901.22 --> 1902.22] Or was that pre-prepped?
512
- [1903.22 --> 1904.22] Oh, that's pretty good
513
- [1905.22 --> 1906.22] Thank you
514
- [1906.22 --> 1909.22] To be fair, okay, Musks is apparently going to take him a hundred days
515
- [1909.22 --> 1916.22] Today's, uh, this crazy battery cave battery, uh, is gonna be done by the end of 2023
516
- [1916.22 --> 1920.22] But it'll be seven hundred milliwatt hours
517
- [1920.22 --> 1921.22] Or megawatt hours
518
- [1921.22 --> 1922.22] Excuse, milliwatt hours
519
- [1922.22 --> 1923.22] Megawatt hours
520
- [1923.22 --> 1925.22] Compared to just a hundred
521
- [1926.22 --> 1927.22] It's like a small anchor battery
522
- [1927.22 --> 1928.22] Yeah
523
- [1928.22 --> 1929.22] It's like...
524
- [1929.22 --> 1930.22] But it's in a cave!
525
- [1930.22 --> 1931.22] Yes!
526
- [1931.22 --> 1933.22] But it is the German one
527
- [1933.22 --> 1936.22] It will work better than the others
528
- [1936.22 --> 1939.22] We opened up an old bunker and just threw it in
529
- [1939.22 --> 1940.22] Yeah, that's right
530
- [1941.22 --> 1942.22] Yeah
531
- [1943.22 --> 1944.22] Outrageous!
532
- [1944.22 --> 1946.22] Oh, we should do our sponsor spot
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- [1946.22 --> 1947.22] That's probably a solid idea
534
- [1948.22 --> 1951.22] Sponsors for today's WAN show
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- [1973.22 --> 1976.22] Or working on people's plumbing
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- [1976.22 --> 1981.22] Rather than spending your time tooling around with overly complicated accounting software
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- [1981.22 --> 1986.22] That literally actually requires an accounting program in order to operate
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- [2015.22 --> 2018.22] And enter, oh by the way, enter Linus Tech Tips in the How You Heard About Us section
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- [2018.22 --> 2020.22] I am so freaking hungry
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- [2020.22 --> 2021.22] I am so...
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- [2021.22 --> 2022.22] Okay
564
- [2022.22 --> 2023.22] You know what?
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- [2023.22 --> 2024.22] Let's do Need for Seat first
566
- [2024.22 --> 2025.22] Okay
567
- [2025.22 --> 2026.22] Need for Seat!
568
- [2026.22 --> 2029.22] Makers of the Maxnomic line of chairs that you've probably seen featured on Linus Tech Tips
569
- [2030.22 --> 2031.22] Many, many times
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- [2032.22 --> 2034.22] Especially in my office
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- [2034.22 --> 2037.22] So I actually love that chair
572
- [2037.22 --> 2038.22] Yeah
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- [2039.22 --> 2041.22] They now have a new service for their chairs
574
- [2041.22 --> 2043.22] Now, instead of just having...
575
- [2043.22 --> 2044.22] See you spoiled it, you suck
576
- [2045.22 --> 2047.22] Instead of just having a Maxnomic logo embroidered
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- [2048.22 --> 2049.22] You can now have
578
- [2050.22 --> 2051.22] Bam!
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- [2051.22 --> 2052.22] Your name!
580
- [2052.22 --> 2054.22] Which would have come in handy a lot of times around here
581
- [2054.22 --> 2055.22] Yes
582
- [2055.22 --> 2057.22] For all the times that people have taken
583
- [2057.22 --> 2058.22] My chair
584
- [2058.22 --> 2059.22] I actually have a label on it
585
- [2059.22 --> 2061.22] It says, Linus Chair Do Not Steal
586
- [2061.22 --> 2063.22] Didn't it happen today with this one?
587
- [2063.22 --> 2064.22] Even though it's embroidered?
588
- [2064.22 --> 2065.22] Yes
589
- [2065.22 --> 2066.22] Yes, it did
590
- [2066.22 --> 2067.22] So maybe it's not the solution
591
- [2067.22 --> 2068.22] It's easier to track down though
592
- [2068.22 --> 2071.22] Maybe it's not the solution to that particular problem
593
- [2071.22 --> 2073.22] So people being jackasses
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- [2073.22 --> 2075.22] Is not something that embroidery can solve
595
- [2076.22 --> 2077.22] But at least you can have
596
- [2078.22 --> 2081.22] Like a BA multicolored embroidery thing on your chair
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- [2081.22 --> 2082.22] It's freaking cool
598
- [2083.22 --> 2085.22] They've got tons of different chairs
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- [2085.22 --> 2086.22] Something for everyone
600
- [2086.22 --> 2088.22] And they've got a preview tool that allows you to see
601
- [2088.22 --> 2091.22] What it's going to look like on the chair
602
- [2091.22 --> 2093.22] They've got outstanding customer service
603
- [2093.22 --> 2096.22] And I can speak for the quality of the products
604
- [2097.22 --> 2099.22] I've been using mine for over two years now
605
- [2100.22 --> 2101.22] Me too
606
- [2101.22 --> 2102.22] Since I did my first review
607
- [2102.22 --> 2103.22] Mine's a Maxnomic too
608
- [2103.22 --> 2105.22] And other than my cheap Costco jeans
609
- [2105.22 --> 2107.22] Staining the seat blue a little bit
610
- [2108.22 --> 2109.22] It looks like the day I got it
611
- [2109.22 --> 2110.22] Yeah
612
- [2110.22 --> 2111.22] I love my chair
613
- [2111.22 --> 2112.22] Yeah
614
- [2112.22 --> 2113.22] So head over to need4seat.com
615
- [2113.22 --> 2116.22] And check out their new embroidery service today
616
- [2116.22 --> 2118.22] Leading us to our last sponsor
617
- [2118.22 --> 2121.22] Which apparently I've seen multiple people in the chat
618
- [2121.22 --> 2123.22] Actually asking for this one to be on the show
619
- [2123.22 --> 2125.22] Because I think it's entertaining when we eat hot things
620
- [2125.22 --> 2127.22] Alright, I think it's my turn
621
- [2127.22 --> 2128.22] It's your turn
622
- [2129.22 --> 2130.22] I hate you
623
- [2132.22 --> 2134.22] I'm eating something delicious that first
624
- [2134.22 --> 2135.22] Okay, that's fair
625
- [2135.22 --> 2136.22] Now I'm getting to it
626
- [2136.22 --> 2137.22] That's fair
627
- [2137.22 --> 2139.22] Savage jerky is made with the best ingredients
628
- [2139.22 --> 2142.22] Without nitrates or preservatives
629
- [2143.22 --> 2144.22] The goal was to create a snack
630
- [2145.22 --> 2146.22] That was full of flavor and spice
631
- [2147.22 --> 2148.22] But wasn't bad for you
632
- [2149.22 --> 2152.22] The inspiration comes from the flavor of garlic, lime and cilantro
633
- [2153.22 --> 2155.22] Because it brings out the flavor in premium beef
634
- [2156.22 --> 2158.22] Mmm, my personal favorite
635
- [2159.22 --> 2160.22] Is the maple buffalo bacon
636
- [2160.22 --> 2161.22] Which I think we're out of
637
- [2161.22 --> 2162.22] Because I just eat the entire pack
638
- [2162.22 --> 2163.22] Every time we do a spot
639
- [2164.22 --> 2165.22] Yeah
640
- [2165.22 --> 2166.22] But if you're into spicy
641
- [2167.22 --> 2168.22] Man, do they ever have a lot of options
642
- [2168.22 --> 2169.22] A lot of options
643
- [2169.22 --> 2170.22] What are you going to hit me with this week?
644
- [2171.22 --> 2172.22] Umm
645
- [2173.22 --> 2174.22] Uuuhhh
646
- [2174.22 --> 2175.22] You had me try
647
- [2176.22 --> 2177.22] Man, this one's good
648
- [2177.22 --> 2178.22] I love the cracked pepper
649
- [2178.22 --> 2179.22] The cracked pepper and sea salt
650
- [2179.22 --> 2181.22] Honestly, I thought it was pretty good at first
651
- [2181.22 --> 2183.22] Now I actually like this one
652
- [2183.22 --> 2184.22] Almost as much as a maple
653
- [2184.22 --> 2185.22] Interesting
654
- [2185.22 --> 2187.22] Yeah, so I'm putting it over on this side
655
- [2187.22 --> 2188.22] So you had me try
656
- [2188.22 --> 2189.22] Oh, ghost pepper
657
- [2189.22 --> 2190.22] The ghost pepper
658
- [2190.22 --> 2192.22] Because you thought it was hotter than the reaper
659
- [2193.22 --> 2194.22] So I'm actually going to
660
- [2194.22 --> 2195.22] And I tried it and it wasn't that bad
661
- [2195.22 --> 2196.22] So I'm going to leave it up to you
662
- [2196.22 --> 2200.22] You can go with the one that is listed as hotter
663
- [2200.22 --> 2201.22] And I think is hotter
664
- [2201.22 --> 2204.22] Or you can go with the one that is not listed as hotter
665
- [2204.22 --> 2205.22] Tell you what
666
- [2205.22 --> 2206.22] And you think is hotter
667
- [2206.22 --> 2207.22] Here's what I'm going to do
668
- [2207.22 --> 2208.22] I'm going to do both
669
- [2208.22 --> 2209.22] Okay
670
- [2209.22 --> 2210.22] I'm going to settle this once and for all
671
- [2210.22 --> 2211.22] See, I was thinking about that
672
- [2211.22 --> 2213.22] But I didn't want to put that on you
673
- [2213.22 --> 2214.22] No, no, no, no, no
674
- [2214.22 --> 2215.22] I saw where you were going
675
- [2215.22 --> 2216.22] Yeah
676
- [2216.22 --> 2218.22] No, no, don't think that just because you beat around the bus
677
- [2218.22 --> 2220.22] That you didn't throw me under it
678
- [2220.22 --> 2221.22] All right
679
- [2221.22 --> 2225.22] Because you were setting them up
680
- [2225.22 --> 2226.22] You were setting up their expectations
681
- [2226.22 --> 2227.22] A little bit
682
- [2227.22 --> 2228.22] Yeah
683
- [2228.22 --> 2229.22] A little bit
684
- [2229.22 --> 2230.22] Okay
685
- [2230.22 --> 2231.22] There might have been some minor social engineering going on
686
- [2231.22 --> 2232.22] So there's the ghost pepper
687
- [2232.22 --> 2235.22] That's a solid piece of jerky right there
688
- [2235.22 --> 2236.22] That's a good looking piece of jerky
689
- [2236.22 --> 2238.22] That's a terrifying looking piece of jerky
690
- [2238.22 --> 2239.22] Yes
691
- [2239.22 --> 2240.22] It probably should be
692
- [2240.22 --> 2241.22] So use offer code LTT
693
- [2241.22 --> 2243.22] And save 10%
694
- [2243.22 --> 2247.22] At www.savagejerky.com
695
- [2247.22 --> 2248.22] Okay
696
- [2248.22 --> 2251.22] Did we send them a message about the challenge pack thing?
697
- [2251.22 --> 2253.22] I don't think we remembered
698
- [2253.22 --> 2254.22] We should
699
- [2254.22 --> 2255.22] Okay, so you go ahead
700
- [2255.22 --> 2257.22] You do our next topic here
701
- [2257.22 --> 2259.22] And I'm going to do the
702
- [2259.22 --> 2264.22] Sorry, I've got some of the other ones stuck in my tooth
703
- [2264.22 --> 2268.22] Got it, okay
704
- [2268.22 --> 2269.22] I don't want to taint it
705
- [2269.22 --> 2270.22] I don't want to taint it
706
- [2270.22 --> 2276.22] So I'm going to do a bite of ghost pepper buffalo sauce first
707
- [2276.22 --> 2278.22] Just to get my taste buds going
708
- [2278.22 --> 2280.22] Then I'm going to do one of each
709
- [2280.22 --> 2281.22] Okay?
710
- [2285.22 --> 2286.22] You go ahead and move on to our next topic
711
- [2286.22 --> 2288.22] I also ate a really spicy one apparently
712
- [2290.22 --> 2292.22] Wearables are tanking
713
- [2292.22 --> 2294.22] Jawbone is liquidating its assets
714
- [2294.22 --> 2296.22] We've kind of seen this coming for a while
715
- [2296.22 --> 2298.22] Even from your own personal experience
716
- [2298.22 --> 2300.22] How often is your smartwatch paired with your phone?
717
- [2302.22 --> 2303.22] Just out of an interesting question
718
- [2303.22 --> 2305.22] You overheard me talking about this, didn't you?
719
- [2305.22 --> 2306.22] I did, yeah
720
- [2306.22 --> 2307.22] But I'm like not even remotely
721
- [2307.22 --> 2309.22] The answer is like almost never, right?
722
- [2310.22 --> 2312.22] Well, I wouldn't say almost never
723
- [2313.22 --> 2314.22] How long has it been?
724
- [2314.22 --> 2316.22] Here, let me fire up the Engadget source for this one
725
- [2316.22 --> 2318.22] I can throw that in the chat
726
- [2318.22 --> 2319.22] That's okay, I got it
727
- [2319.22 --> 2322.22] Jawbone's demise heralds the end of the wearables industry
728
- [2322.22 --> 2323.22] I think that's a little sensationalist
729
- [2323.22 --> 2324.22] I don't think that's necessarily
730
- [2324.22 --> 2325.22] A little rough
731
- [2325.22 --> 2326.22] A little rough?
732
- [2326.22 --> 2327.22] Yeah
733
- [2327.22 --> 2328.22] I think there's still space for
734
- [2328.22 --> 2330.22] I think you overheard me talking to Colton
735
- [2330.22 --> 2331.22] Yeah
736
- [2331.22 --> 2332.22] Because he asked me
737
- [2333.22 --> 2334.22] Whew
738
- [2334.22 --> 2336.22] Okay, I wasn't expecting to have to talk for this spot
739
- [2337.22 --> 2344.22] He asked me if I would be comfortable doing a product placement for a non-smart watch
740
- [2344.22 --> 2346.22] Where I'm just wearing it
741
- [2346.22 --> 2347.22] Okay
742
- [2347.22 --> 2348.22] Yeah, yeah, yeah
743
- [2348.22 --> 2349.22] And I was like
744
- [2349.22 --> 2351.22] He's like yeah, I know you love the smart watch
745
- [2351.22 --> 2352.22] And I'm like
746
- [2352.22 --> 2354.22] Yeah, so let me put it this way
747
- [2355.22 --> 2357.22] For over two weeks
748
- [2357.22 --> 2359.22] I was wearing an Apple watch
749
- [2359.22 --> 2362.22] That was paired to my iPhone 6
750
- [2362.22 --> 2364.22] The one that I only use
751
- [2364.22 --> 2366.22] To listen to music
752
- [2366.22 --> 2367.22] And watch videos in bed
753
- [2367.22 --> 2370.22] So when I was actually out and about during the day
754
- [2370.22 --> 2373.22] Like I obviously wasn't getting call notifications or text notifications
755
- [2373.22 --> 2375.22] Because it doesn't have a SIM in it
756
- [2375.22 --> 2376.22] And it would only like
757
- [2376.22 --> 2378.22] I'd randomly get like a bunch of notifications when I got home
758
- [2378.22 --> 2381.22] Like it clearly was not the optimal experience
759
- [2381.22 --> 2383.22] And it just wasn't even worth the five minutes
760
- [2383.22 --> 2386.22] Like I like the smart watch experience
761
- [2386.22 --> 2388.22] I just switch phones so often
762
- [2388.22 --> 2390.22] That I just
763
- [2390.22 --> 2391.22] But it's not that important to you
764
- [2391.22 --> 2392.22] I just don't bother, yes
765
- [2392.22 --> 2394.22] And like as a consumer
766
- [2394.22 --> 2395.22] Yes
767
- [2395.22 --> 2396.22] Buying these
768
- [2396.22 --> 2399.22] I would buy and I would own one
769
- [2399.22 --> 2401.22] But if I had an Apple watch
770
- [2401.22 --> 2403.22] I wouldn't run out and buy the Gen 2
771
- [2403.22 --> 2404.22] So my experience was
772
- [2404.22 --> 2406.22] Because I tried out the Sony smart watch 3
773
- [2406.22 --> 2407.22] I believe it was
774
- [2407.22 --> 2409.22] And I think I made a video on that quite a while ago
775
- [2409.22 --> 2410.22] Okay, I'm doing the other one
776
- [2410.22 --> 2411.22] Okay
777
- [2411.22 --> 2412.22] Go ahead
778
- [2412.22 --> 2414.22] So you just survived the ghost pepper, right?
779
- [2414.22 --> 2415.22] Which you thought was hotter
780
- [2415.22 --> 2416.22] Mm-hmm
781
- [2416.22 --> 2417.22] Okay
782
- [2417.22 --> 2418.22] So I tried the Sony smart watch 3
783
- [2418.22 --> 2419.22] I believe it was
784
- [2419.22 --> 2420.22] Quite a while ago
785
- [2420.22 --> 2421.22] Made a video on it
786
- [2421.22 --> 2422.22] And it was really good for the jazz
787
- [2422.22 --> 2423.22] My issue with that was
788
- [2423.22 --> 2425.22] We had a little thing where like
789
- [2425.22 --> 2427.22] If you're reviewing a type of product
790
- [2427.22 --> 2428.22] You should probably use it
791
- [2428.22 --> 2430.22] So I held on to that one for a little while
792
- [2430.22 --> 2431.22] It's now back
793
- [2431.22 --> 2434.22] But I found myself
794
- [2434.22 --> 2436.22] The need to charge it all the time
795
- [2436.22 --> 2438.22] And the fact that the charging port was under it
796
- [2438.22 --> 2440.22] And under a silicone thing
797
- [2440.22 --> 2442.22] So I couldn't just like dock
798
- [2442.22 --> 2443.22] Take it off and like drop it on a dock
799
- [2443.22 --> 2445.22] I had to take it off and like
800
- [2445.22 --> 2446.22] Get under there
801
- [2446.22 --> 2449.22] And probably take it out of its actual band
802
- [2449.22 --> 2451.22] And then remove the silicone thing
803
- [2451.22 --> 2452.22] And plug in the little cable
804
- [2452.22 --> 2453.22] Like
805
- [2453.22 --> 2455.22] It was just not a very usable experience
806
- [2455.22 --> 2458.22] And it got to the point where I would rather take it off
807
- [2458.22 --> 2459.22] And leave it
808
- [2459.22 --> 2461.22] Yeah, see that one is hotter
809
- [2461.22 --> 2462.22] Oh
810
- [2462.22 --> 2463.22] Okay
811
- [2463.22 --> 2465.22] See that one's definitely hotter
812
- [2465.22 --> 2466.22] Hold on, give me a sec
813
- [2466.22 --> 2468.22] Just let me let the palette cleanse a little bit
814
- [2468.22 --> 2469.22] Okay
815
- [2469.22 --> 2470.22] Alright
816
- [2470.22 --> 2471.22] So I still think
817
- [2471.22 --> 2472.22] It's just, it's tedious
818
- [2472.22 --> 2473.22] And the thing is like that's
819
- [2473.22 --> 2474.22] That's
820
- [2474.22 --> 2476.22] To make that experience better
821
- [2476.22 --> 2477.22] Requires buying a new watch
822
- [2477.22 --> 2478.22] And then now
823
- [2478.22 --> 2480.22] Now I'm buying another watch
824
- [2480.22 --> 2482.22] And I wasn't really that satisfied with that one
825
- [2482.22 --> 2484.22] And now it's the current level of watch
826
- [2484.22 --> 2486.22] And I still don't think it's that great
827
- [2486.22 --> 2487.22] I think we might get there eventually
828
- [2487.22 --> 2489.22] But I think we're a few years early
829
- [2489.22 --> 2490.22] So that's exactly it
830
- [2490.22 --> 2492.22] I think demise of wearables
831
- [2492.22 --> 2493.22] Is a little ridiculous
832
- [2494.22 --> 2496.22] I just think that wearables aren't gonna be
833
- [2496.22 --> 2497.22] The slam dunk
834
- [2497.22 --> 2498.22] Like
835
- [2498.22 --> 2499.22] Like
836
- [2499.22 --> 2500.22] Next smartphone
837
- [2500.22 --> 2501.22] Like companies like
838
- [2502.22 --> 2503.22] Samsung
839
- [2503.22 --> 2504.22] Or maybe even Apple
840
- [2504.22 --> 2505.22] Were expecting them to be
841
- [2506.22 --> 2507.22] Because
842
- [2507.22 --> 2508.22] The experience right now
843
- [2508.22 --> 2509.22] Just isn't worth
844
- [2510.22 --> 2512.22] Five or six or eight hundred dollars
845
- [2512.22 --> 2513.22] Like a premium watch
846
- [2514.22 --> 2515.22] People feel like it is
847
- [2515.22 --> 2517.22] Because it's a piece of jewelry
848
- [2518.22 --> 2519.22] Whereas I do think
849
- [2519.22 --> 2521.22] That there are wearables out there
850
- [2521.22 --> 2522.22] That are more reasonably priced
851
- [2523.22 --> 2524.22] Yeah
852
- [2524.22 --> 2525.22] That can make sense
853
- [2525.22 --> 2526.22] And I also think
854
- [2526.22 --> 2527.22] That development will continue
855
- [2527.22 --> 2529.22] And we will get to the point where
856
- [2530.22 --> 2531.22] The charging thing is a great point
857
- [2532.22 --> 2533.22] Like if I
858
- [2533.22 --> 2534.22] Misalign my watch
859
- [2534.22 --> 2535.22] And it doesn't charge that night
860
- [2535.22 --> 2536.22] Yeah
861
- [2536.22 --> 2537.22] It doesn't work the next day
862
- [2537.22 --> 2538.22] That's a pain in the butt
863
- [2538.22 --> 2539.22] Whereas
864
- [2539.22 --> 2540.22] When wireless charging gets to the point
865
- [2540.22 --> 2541.22] Where you just kind of throw all your junk
866
- [2541.22 --> 2542.22] Drop it in a bowl
867
- [2542.22 --> 2543.22] In a bowl
868
- [2543.22 --> 2544.22] In a bowl at the end of the day
869
- [2544.22 --> 2545.22] Yeah
870
- [2545.22 --> 2546.22] Then that's cool
871
- [2546.22 --> 2547.22] That's way way way way better of experience
872
- [2547.22 --> 2548.22] So we'll get there
873
- [2548.22 --> 2549.22] It needs to be a lot easier
874
- [2550.22 --> 2552.22] Right now I feel like it's kind of a barrier
875
- [2552.22 --> 2553.22] Between using things
876
- [2553.22 --> 2555.22] But charging it is tedious
877
- [2555.22 --> 2557.22] Making sure it's paired with all your stuff
878
- [2557.22 --> 2558.22] And linked into all your apps
879
- [2558.22 --> 2559.22] Right now is tedious
880
- [2559.22 --> 2560.22] It's not a seamless experience
881
- [2560.22 --> 2561.22] Through your phone
882
- [2561.22 --> 2563.22] Like there's just too many steps
883
- [2563.22 --> 2565.22] That you have to constantly redo
884
- [2566.22 --> 2567.22] So
885
- [2567.22 --> 2568.22] To cover the news here
886
- [2568.22 --> 2570.22] This is just the latest
887
- [2570.22 --> 2571.22] Wearable pioneer
888
- [2571.22 --> 2572.22] To throw in the towel
889
- [2572.22 --> 2573.22] Last year
890
- [2573.22 --> 2575.22] Last year Pebble sold its assets to Fitbit
891
- [2575.22 --> 2576.22] In a fire sale
892
- [2577.22 --> 2578.22] As for Fitbit
893
- [2578.22 --> 2580.22] They're trading at a 52 week low
894
- [2580.22 --> 2582.22] So Jawbone was actually last valued
895
- [2583.22 --> 2585.22] At $1.5 billion
896
- [2585.22 --> 2587.22] When they raised $165 million
897
- [2587.22 --> 2589.22] In January 2016
898
- [2590.22 --> 2592.22] Despite shuttering their business
899
- [2592.22 --> 2593.22] They still think they're worth
900
- [2593.22 --> 2594.22] A significant amount of money
901
- [2594.22 --> 2596.22] Due to pending litigation with Fitbit
902
- [2596.22 --> 2598.22] But the company has begun the process
903
- [2598.22 --> 2599.22] Of liquidating itself
904
- [2599.22 --> 2600.22] At least in part
905
- [2600.22 --> 2602.22] I also think that there's probably
906
- [2602.22 --> 2604.22] Too many wearable brands
907
- [2604.22 --> 2605.22] So I'm not that surprised
908
- [2605.22 --> 2606.22] I'm a little surprised
909
- [2606.22 --> 2607.22] That it's happening to Jawbone
910
- [2607.22 --> 2608.22] Because they've been around for a long time
911
- [2608.22 --> 2610.22] And that most of them are just kind of junk
912
- [2610.22 --> 2611.22] From my experience
913
- [2611.22 --> 2612.22] Yeah
914
- [2612.22 --> 2613.22] I mean you were gonna do
915
- [2613.22 --> 2614.22] Sorry?
916
- [2614.22 --> 2615.22] Apple Watch
917
- [2615.22 --> 2616.22] Oh get out of here
918
- [2616.22 --> 2617.22] Yeah the Apple Watch
919
- [2617.22 --> 2618.22] Blah blah blah
920
- [2618.22 --> 2619.22] Like you were gonna do a round up
921
- [2619.22 --> 2620.22] Of fitness wearables
922
- [2620.22 --> 2621.22] Yeah
923
- [2621.22 --> 2622.22] Because they're all
924
- [2622.22 --> 2623.22] We actually ran out and bought like six of them
925
- [2623.22 --> 2624.22] Super janky
926
- [2624.22 --> 2625.22] Yeah
927
- [2625.22 --> 2626.22] But like
928
- [2626.22 --> 2627.22] It never happened because
929
- [2627.22 --> 2629.22] Well okay
930
- [2629.22 --> 2630.22] Are we
931
- [2630.22 --> 2631.22] The real reason why it didn't happen
932
- [2631.22 --> 2632.22] Yeah come on
933
- [2632.22 --> 2633.22] Go
934
- [2633.22 --> 2634.22] It just took way too freaking long
935
- [2634.22 --> 2636.22] Okay so we wanted to pair with
936
- [2636.22 --> 2639.22] Educational institution
937
- [2639.22 --> 2640.22] X
938
- [2640.22 --> 2641.22] Yeah local university
939
- [2641.22 --> 2642.22] Yeah we wanted to pair with a local university
940
- [2642.22 --> 2645.22] Because they have a really cool on site medical thing
941
- [2645.22 --> 2650.22] Where they can like use proper equipment to properly test exactly what's going on with your heart
942
- [2650.22 --> 2665.22] And we didn't want to do it with like just some fitness band because I wanted absolutely as accurate as I could get because I wanted this to be an actual thing that people could point at when debating the viability of fitness watches
943
- [2665.22 --> 2666.22] Yeah
944
- [2666.22 --> 2679.22] And they were interested but they wanted to launch these videos along with something that they were working on and then it took them like they said it was going to take a few months end up taking them like six months I still started contacting them and they were like
945
- [2679.22 --> 2685.22] Okay well we're not really launching this thing in the same way as before we can still work with you on it but
946
- [2685.22 --> 2686.22] How much are you willing to pay us?
947
- [2686.22 --> 2687.22] How much are you willing to pay us?
948
- [2687.22 --> 2689.22] How much are you willing to pay us to use the facility?
949
- [2689.22 --> 2691.22] How much are you willing to pay us to use the consumables?
950
- [2691.22 --> 2695.22] How much are you willing to pay us for our time per person that has to be there?
951
- [2695.22 --> 2697.22] Here's all the people that have to be there
952
- [2697.22 --> 2699.22] Basically it wasn't a partnership anymore
953
- [2699.22 --> 2714.22] Yeah they were looking for like a many thousands of dollars paycheck to run this testing that was only existing for the sake of for the like we weren't going to be making that kind of money on it like we were going to make like a couple hundred bucks on AdSense
954
- [2714.22 --> 2718.22] And we invested a lot in buying all the watches part of the idea of the video was actually
955
- [2718.22 --> 2727.22] And we were investing in a video crew and editing and like all that stuff that like we bring to the table and it was going to be exposure for their program like they were just they were not being partners about it at all
956
- [2727.22 --> 2751.22] And it was it was supposed to be a like actually a pro health video which is why we wanted to work with a health focused Institute because it was supposed to address the idea of people over exercising and I know that sounds kind of weird because that's not usually the problem that exists but the problem that they were trying to address was rather old people
957
- [2751.22 --> 2764.22] Right 80s 90s year old people that were trying to stay fit and that's awesome but going too hard at it and stressing out their hearts like going for extended very extended bike rides every single day
958
- [2764.22 --> 2771.22] Right and it was just too stressful on their hearts but they were looking at these smart watches and going oh I'm still within the training zone
959
- [2771.22 --> 2778.22] Right but that doesn't even if that is accurate which it's not probably really know if I'm gonna say that it is
960
- [2778.22 --> 2786.22] It still doesn't account for a lot of other things that can be going on with your heart that can be super bad
961
- [2786.22 --> 2791.22] Even if you're in the training zone there can be other things going on but I know you've done a lot of research in terms of heart stuff
962
- [2791.22 --> 2798.22] Yes, yeah, but people trust this thing and they go oh it's saying that I'm doing well therefore everything is going well
963
- [2798.22 --> 2803.22] But the hearts not as complicated as just as fast as it's going so people trust this
964
- [2803.22 --> 2810.22] Or rather it's more complicated. Yeah, yeah, and the Fitbits congratulating them and giving them gamified feedback about how well they're doing
965
- [2810.22 --> 2814.22] When their heart can't take this much stress because they're old and it can't
966
- [2814.22 --> 2822.22] So we were trying to help address that also point at like amount of steps that's happening and point at how stupid that is
967
- [2822.22 --> 2830.22] And we had a really cool shot where we were in a bus in Mexico and my step counter was just going like mad because there was all these bumps
968
- [2830.22 --> 2831.22] Right
969
- [2831.22 --> 2836.22] So that we were gonna address how inaccurate these things are but it just never ended up working out
970
- [2836.22 --> 2837.22] Okay, I have the answer
971
- [2838.22 --> 2843.22] So the Reaper is hotter on the tail end
972
- [2843.22 --> 2844.22] Okay
973
- [2844.22 --> 2849.22] So it leaves a more extended burn
974
- [2849.22 --> 2850.22] Yeah, okay
975
- [2850.22 --> 2853.22] Whereas the ghost pepper probably has a hotter initial burst
976
- [2853.22 --> 2854.22] A little bit of a punch
977
- [2854.22 --> 2855.22] Interesting
978
- [2855.22 --> 2859.22] But what I'll say is that this is the most of either of them that I've been able to eat in one sitting
979
- [2859.22 --> 2860.22] And like
980
- [2860.22 --> 2861.22] We're gaining tolerance
981
- [2861.22 --> 2862.22] Yeah, like I've always
982
- [2862.22 --> 2863.22] Over these Wanchos
983
- [2863.22 --> 2865.22] Like I've always said in the past they're delicious
984
- [2865.22 --> 2866.22] Yeah
985
- [2866.22 --> 2867.22] But I can only handle like a bite
986
- [2867.22 --> 2868.22] Yeah
987
- [2868.22 --> 2872.22] Oh wow
988
- [2872.22 --> 2878.22] Oh that's like a full-size piece and a half now if you total it all together right?
989
- [2878.22 --> 2879.22] I'm feeling good
990
- [2879.22 --> 2880.22] That's crazy
991
- [2880.22 --> 2881.22] These are frickin delicious
992
- [2881.22 --> 2882.22] They are
993
- [2882.22 --> 2883.22] They're even better once you're used to it
994
- [2883.22 --> 2886.22] We're off the sponsor spot just in case people are wondering
995
- [2886.22 --> 2887.22] But like
996
- [2887.22 --> 2888.22] Yeah
997
- [2888.22 --> 2889.22] Man that's yummy
998
- [2889.22 --> 2890.22] So they should okay
999
- [2890.22 --> 2892.22] They should offer two different things now
1000
- [2892.22 --> 2895.22] And we should like actually contact them about this
1001
- [2895.22 --> 2896.22] There should be the challenge pack
1002
- [2896.22 --> 2898.22] And the tolerance pack
1003
- [2898.22 --> 2899.22] And the tolerance pack
1004
- [2899.22 --> 2900.22] And the tolerance
1005
- [2900.22 --> 2902.22] The tolerance subscription maybe
1006
- [2903.22 --> 2905.22] Where like it sends you
1007
- [2905.22 --> 2907.22] You pick where your start is on the line
1008
- [2907.22 --> 2908.22] Yeah
1009
- [2908.22 --> 2909.22] And then it'll send you them
1010
- [2909.22 --> 2912.22] Like the same kind for like a month
1011
- [2912.22 --> 2913.22] And then you get upgraded
1012
- [2913.22 --> 2915.22] Up one heat tier
1013
- [2915.22 --> 2916.22] And then it sends you the same kind for like a month
1014
- [2916.22 --> 2917.22] And then you get upgraded
1015
- [2917.22 --> 2918.22] And you have to try to like
1016
- [2918.22 --> 2919.22] I like it
1017
- [2919.22 --> 2920.22] Yeah
1018
- [2920.22 --> 2921.22] Alright
1019
- [2921.22 --> 2922.22] So
1020
- [2922.22 --> 2924.22] The original article here
1021
- [2924.22 --> 2926.22] Is from TechCrunch
1022
- [2927.22 --> 2929.22] And it's finally happened
1023
- [2929.22 --> 2930.22] Yep
1024
- [2930.22 --> 2934.22] Pornhub has built in support for interactive toys
1025
- [2935.22 --> 2937.22] Huh
1026
- [2937.22 --> 2939.22] This is a great meme right here
1027
- [2939.22 --> 2940.22] This image is not related to the text
1028
- [2940.22 --> 2941.22] Because
1029
- [2941.22 --> 2943.22] I don't think TechCrunch is edgy enough
1030
- [2943.22 --> 2946.22] To put in an image that is related to the text here
1031
- [2946.22 --> 2947.22] Maybe not share that one
1032
- [2948.22 --> 2950.22] Source 2 was a little bit more lewd
1033
- [2950.22 --> 2953.22] Oh man my stomach is still working on it
1034
- [2953.22 --> 2954.22] But okay
1035
- [2954.22 --> 2955.22] If someone
1036
- [2955.22 --> 2956.22] No one's gonna do this
1037
- [2956.22 --> 2958.22] But if someone went back to like the first time
1038
- [2958.22 --> 2959.22] That we had a Savage Jerky sponsorship
1039
- [2959.22 --> 2960.22] Oh yeah it just about killed me
1040
- [2960.22 --> 2961.22] Me too
1041
- [2961.22 --> 2962.22] Yeah
1042
- [2962.22 --> 2964.22] It's happening we're getting better
1043
- [2964.22 --> 2966.22] So Canada's porn mega site Pornhub
1044
- [2966.22 --> 2971.22] Has launched a new series of videos that sync with the users interactive sex toy
1045
- [2971.22 --> 2975.22] To make it a more intimate experience both visually and physically
1046
- [2975.22 --> 2979.22] And something that I referenced a little while ago on a WAN show that you weren't here for
1047
- [2979.22 --> 2980.22] Yeah
1048
- [2980.22 --> 2983.22] Was that I'm still subscribed to like the Oculus subreddit and stuff like that
1049
- [2983.22 --> 2984.22] And I've seen a
1050
- [2985.22 --> 2990.22] The percentage of time that a post hits the front page that is about not safe for work topics
1051
- [2990.22 --> 2992.22] Seems to be
1052
- [2992.22 --> 2997.22] I don't know if this is 100% accurate but it seems to be to my perceptions without diving too far into it
1053
- [2997.22 --> 2999.22] Increasing over time
1054
- [2999.22 --> 3002.22] As interest in VR decreases
1055
- [3002.22 --> 3004.22] Because the people that are still
1056
- [3004.22 --> 3006.22] Are still interested in it
1057
- [3006.22 --> 3008.22] A lot of them are using it for not safe for work stuff
1058
- [3008.22 --> 3012.22] And Pornhub is saying that their VR category is doing very well
1059
- [3012.22 --> 3014.22] And I'm actually not that surprised
1060
- [3014.22 --> 3017.22] A million plus views per day
1061
- [3017.22 --> 3018.22] Yep
1062
- [3018.22 --> 3021.22] I didn't even think there were that many VR headsets out there
1063
- [3021.22 --> 3022.22] I mean
1064
- [3022.22 --> 3024.22] Sometimes it might take more than one video
1065
- [3026.22 --> 3027.22] Who knows?
1066
- [3030.22 --> 3031.22] Fair enough
1067
- [3031.22 --> 3032.22] And I guess it's all in how you define a view
1068
- [3032.22 --> 3033.22] Yes
1069
- [3033.22 --> 3034.22] Like if you're just like
1070
- [3034.22 --> 3036.22] Okay, yeah, skip the first bit
1071
- [3036.22 --> 3037.22] Oh, it's alright
1072
- [3037.22 --> 3039.22] Yeah, skip to the end
1073
- [3039.22 --> 3040.22] Okay, here we go
1074
- [3040.22 --> 3041.22] Yeah
1075
- [3041.22 --> 3042.22] Is that a view?
1076
- [3042.22 --> 3043.22] I don't know
1077
- [3043.22 --> 3044.22] In important terms, I think so
1078
- [3044.22 --> 3045.22] Yeah
1079
- [3045.22 --> 3046.22] Yeah
1080
- [3046.22 --> 3047.22] Alright
1081
- [3047.22 --> 3050.22] So yeah, I think that's pretty much it
1082
- [3050.22 --> 3052.22] The Samsung one's not really that interesting
1083
- [3052.22 --> 3053.22] Okay
1084
- [3053.22 --> 3055.22] Eh, hackers do a thing
1085
- [3055.22 --> 3057.22] Oh, this is ridiculous
1086
- [3057.22 --> 3059.22] Original article here from Ars Technica
1087
- [3059.22 --> 3061.22] Posted by WMGroomAK
1088
- [3063.22 --> 3066.22] OneDrive has stopped working on non-NTFS drives
1089
- [3067.22 --> 3069.22] Fat disks are no longer supported
1090
- [3069.22 --> 3073.22] And more surprisingly, neither is the new REFS file system
1091
- [3073.22 --> 3074.22] Oh, whoa
1092
- [3074.22 --> 3075.22] Oh, okay
1093
- [3075.22 --> 3077.22] Now just to be clear, it can still get you
1094
- [3077.22 --> 3079.22] I had a little bit there go down the wrong pipe
1095
- [3079.22 --> 3080.22] Oh, okay, that's particularly weird
1096
- [3080.22 --> 3081.22] Ouch
1097
- [3081.22 --> 3083.22] But basically
1098
- [3083.22 --> 3084.22] Okay, why don't you do this one?
1099
- [3084.22 --> 3085.22] The OneDrive thing?
1100
- [3085.22 --> 3100.22] Okay, yeah, so to continue to use the software files will need to be stored on an NTFS volume
1101
- [3100.22 --> 3103.22] You saw the error that was on Linus's screen
1102
- [3103.22 --> 3105.22] I'm gonna bring it back up
1103
- [3105.22 --> 3106.22] There you go
1104
- [3106.22 --> 3108.22] So it will warn you
1105
- [3108.22 --> 3112.22] So that it must be formatted with NTFS file system
1106
- [3112.22 --> 3116.22] Now the thing that sucks about that is you're gonna have to move all of that stuff off
1107
- [3116.22 --> 3118.22] Format your drive and move it back
1108
- [3118.22 --> 3119.22] Which is like
1109
- [3119.22 --> 3121.22] Super lame
1110
- [3121.22 --> 3123.22] Yeah, if you're buying storage space
1111
- [3123.22 --> 3124.22] Yeah
1112
- [3124.22 --> 3128.22] That's like safe so you don't have to have it duplicated
1113
- [3128.22 --> 3129.22] Because that's the thing
1114
- [3129.22 --> 3139.22] With the like scaled storage infrastructure thing where you have it in like three different locations and two different formats and blah blah blah blah
1115
- [3139.22 --> 3145.22] You would have to retain that while moving things off of the NTFS systems onto
1116
- [3145.22 --> 3146.22] Wait, no
1117
- [3146.22 --> 3149.22] Off of the whatever other systems onto NTFS systems
1118
- [3149.22 --> 3154.22] And what you're probably gonna be doing is wanting to keep your current infrastructure and just format it
1119
- [3154.22 --> 3157.22] So you'd be moving it off to something they're gonna have to trust
1120
- [3157.22 --> 3163.22] Very likely in the cloud whether it's AWS or something else because you don't want to permanently buy all these drives
1121
- [3163.22 --> 3164.22] And then moving all of it back
1122
- [3164.22 --> 3166.22] Which is not just tedious but it's expensive
1123
- [3166.22 --> 3168.22] Which is super freaking annoying
1124
- [3168.22 --> 3169.22] I'm gonna move us off
1125
- [3169.22 --> 3170.22] Oh, we're already off
1126
- [3170.22 --> 3173.22] So you guys don't have to look at that ad that's now on Linus's screen
1127
- [3173.22 --> 3177.22] Looking back at it NTFS is the default system for Windows
1128
- [3177.22 --> 3184.22] But people using SD cards to extend the storage on small laptops and tablets and NUCs
1129
- [3184.22 --> 3185.22] That's a big thing right now
1130
- [3185.22 --> 3190.22] So a lot of people that have businessy computers that they mount on the back of monitors
1131
- [3190.22 --> 3192.22] Those are commonly NUCs these days
1132
- [3192.22 --> 3195.22] I know a while ago they were all the Zotac
1133
- [3195.22 --> 3197.22] Can't remember the name of it right now
1134
- [3197.22 --> 3198.22] But Zotac Z-Box
1135
- [3198.22 --> 3199.22] Yeah, Z-Box
1136
- [3199.22 --> 3200.22] Yeah, Z-Box
1137
- [3200.22 --> 3201.22] But they're commonly NUCs these days
1138
- [3201.22 --> 3204.22] And a lot of people expand the storage on NUCs with SD cards so
1139
- [3204.22 --> 3207.22] Yeah, basically it's terrible
1140
- [3207.22 --> 3210.22] And it's yet another reason not to use OneDrive because Google Drive works
1141
- [3210.22 --> 3217.22] And people often using storage spaces to manage large redundant storage volumes will often use REFS
1142
- [3217.22 --> 3220.22] Storage spaces is like their own thing
1143
- [3220.22 --> 3221.22] Yeah
1144
- [3221.22 --> 3222.22] Yeah
1145
- [3222.22 --> 3223.22] Ugh
1146
- [3223.22 --> 3224.22] In other news
1147
- [3224.22 --> 3228.22] This was posted by Jamie's Cone on the forum
1148
- [3228.22 --> 3229.22] Red
1149
- [3229.22 --> 3231.22] Announces a phone
1150
- [3231.22 --> 3233.22] One quick thing before we go there
1151
- [3233.22 --> 3234.22] Yeah
1152
- [3234.22 --> 3238.22] Apparently the company's position is that OneDrive should always have warned about these usage scenarios
1153
- [3238.22 --> 3242.22] And that it's only a bug or an oversight that it was allowed
1154
- [3242.22 --> 3247.22] That it was allowed to be used on non-NTFS volumes at all
1155
- [3247.22 --> 3249.22] Which is just bogus
1156
- [3249.22 --> 3251.22] But anyways, yes, Red announced a phone
1157
- [3251.22 --> 3253.22] Linus is going, oh he's going for the sea salt
1158
- [3253.22 --> 3254.22] That makes a lot of sense
1159
- [3254.22 --> 3255.22] Yeah
1160
- [3255.22 --> 3257.22] Red is announcing a phone
1161
- [3257.22 --> 3260.22] It's a very, very expensive phone
1162
- [3260.22 --> 3264.22] Costing roughly, these are subject to change
1163
- [3264.22 --> 3268.22] Either $1595 for the titanium version
1164
- [3268.22 --> 3272.22] Or $1,195 for the aluminium version
1165
- [3272.22 --> 3273.22] Which is just nuts
1166
- [3273.22 --> 3276.22] It's a 5.7 inch holographic display
1167
- [3276.22 --> 3278.22] It runs Android
1168
- [3278.22 --> 3282.22] The handset screen can seamlessly switch between traditional 2D content and home
1169
- [3282.22 --> 3285.22] 2D content and holographic 3D content such as games
1170
- [3285.22 --> 3288.22] It will support Hydrogen 4 view content
1171
- [3288.22 --> 3290.22] A file type that Red has produced
1172
- [3290.22 --> 3293.22] And content will be stored via
1173
- [3293.22 --> 3295.22] That content will be stored via the Red channel
1174
- [3295.22 --> 3299.22] Which allows users to stream holographic games and movies
1175
- [3299.22 --> 3301.22] That is nuts
1176
- [3301.22 --> 3304.22] Red is saying that it may struggle to fill orders
1177
- [3304.22 --> 3306.22] Very unsurprisingly
1178
- [3306.22 --> 3308.22] Due to the display production limitations
1179
- [3308.22 --> 3312.22] Of making like this holographic display and stuff
1180
- [3312.22 --> 3314.22] That can support Hydrogen 4 view content
1181
- [3314.22 --> 3316.22] They're not telling us almost anything about specs
1182
- [3316.22 --> 3317.22] Nope
1183
- [3317.22 --> 3318.22] We can assume
1184
- [3318.22 --> 3321.22] That the camera will be pretty cool
1185
- [3321.22 --> 3323.22] Yeah, if you look at the picture
1186
- [3323.22 --> 3324.22] Which you should be able to get
1187
- [3324.22 --> 3325.22] Yeah
1188
- [3325.22 --> 3326.22] By jumping in there
1189
- [3326.22 --> 3327.22] I had it open here
1190
- [3327.22 --> 3332.22] The camera is fairly prominently displayed up at the top there
1191
- [3332.22 --> 3333.22] Yeah, and it doesn't look like as many
1192
- [3333.22 --> 3335.22] Oh, it actually doesn't look reasonably thin
1193
- [3335.22 --> 3337.22] I like the grip on the side
1194
- [3337.22 --> 3338.22] If you compare to the size of the
1195
- [3338.22 --> 3339.22] That's pretty cool
1196
- [3339.22 --> 3340.22] Yes, I like the grip on the side too
1197
- [3340.22 --> 3342.22] If you compare to the size of the headphone jack
1198
- [3342.22 --> 3343.22] It doesn't look that thick
1199
- [3343.22 --> 3344.22] Nope
1200
- [3344.22 --> 3348.22] There's some type of docking port style thing
1201
- [3348.22 --> 3351.22] On the bottom near where the Type-C is
1202
- [3351.22 --> 3353.22] There's a huge red logo on what looks like
1203
- [3353.22 --> 3355.22] That's their limo connector
1204
- [3355.22 --> 3356.22] Yeah, okay
1205
- [3356.22 --> 3358.22] So this right here looks like it's to attach it
1206
- [3358.22 --> 3359.22] So that
1207
- [3359.22 --> 3361.22] So they're not telling us a lot about specs
1208
- [3361.22 --> 3362.22] Like in terms of processor
1209
- [3362.22 --> 3364.22] Could it act as a display for your camera then?
1210
- [3364.22 --> 3365.22] Yes
1211
- [3365.22 --> 3366.22] Yeah, okay
1212
- [3366.22 --> 3368.22] They're advertising that you can use it as a display for a red camera
1213
- [3368.22 --> 3369.22] Okay
1214
- [3369.22 --> 3372.22] So that's assuming you want to spend the $200 for the cable
1215
- [3372.22 --> 3375.22] And the $200 for the bracket that sits on that dock
1216
- [3375.22 --> 3377.22] Nice, yes, red
1217
- [3377.22 --> 3378.22] There you go
1218
- [3378.22 --> 3380.22] And the one for your camera
1219
- [3380.22 --> 3381.22] So $600
1220
- [3381.22 --> 3382.22] $600
1221
- [3382.22 --> 3383.22] $600 each for those parts
1222
- [3383.22 --> 3385.22] I actually have another
1223
- [3385.22 --> 3387.22] You heard it here first folks
1224
- [3387.22 --> 3390.22] I have another holy shit episode coming
1225
- [3390.22 --> 3392.22] Featuring an overpriced red product
1226
- [3393.22 --> 3394.22] Dude
1227
- [3394.22 --> 3395.22] If you just
1228
- [3395.22 --> 3396.22] You could get infinite holy shit videos
1229
- [3396.22 --> 3398.22] Just buy every single thing that red has
1230
- [3398.22 --> 3400.22] Oh yeah, I mean I don't even know if this phone is going to be a review
1231
- [3400.22 --> 3401.22] I bought one by the way
1232
- [3401.22 --> 3403.22] So I bought one
1233
- [3403.22 --> 3404.22] Not because I plan to keep it
1234
- [3404.22 --> 3405.22] I plan to flip it
1235
- [3405.22 --> 3406.22] Oh yeah
1236
- [3406.22 --> 3409.22] But I bought one so that we can do a video on it
1237
- [3409.22 --> 3410.22] Cause
1238
- [3410.22 --> 3411.22] Go back real quick
1239
- [3411.22 --> 3412.22] Red doesn't sample for Jack
1240
- [3412.22 --> 3413.22] One thing I wanted to point out is
1241
- [3413.22 --> 3415.22] Like the phone's on kind of a weird angle and stuff
1242
- [3415.22 --> 3420.22] But you can kind of figure out how big that red digital cinema hydrogen logo thing is
1243
- [3420.22 --> 3421.22] Yep
1244
- [3421.22 --> 3424.22] And that looks like a relatively similar size to the camera
1245
- [3424.22 --> 3425.22] That's up at the top
1246
- [3425.22 --> 3427.22] So that camera is huge
1247
- [3427.22 --> 3429.22] It's also a little hard to tell from the perspective
1248
- [3429.22 --> 3432.22] But this looks lower profile than this heatsink here
1249
- [3432.22 --> 3433.22] It looks like a raised heatsink
1250
- [3433.22 --> 3434.22] Which looks below that
1251
- [3434.22 --> 3435.22] Yeah
1252
- [3435.22 --> 3436.22] Which also still has a camera bump
1253
- [3436.22 --> 3437.22] Yeah
1254
- [3437.22 --> 3438.22] So that camera might be like dope AF
1255
- [3438.22 --> 3439.22] Pretty massive
1256
- [3439.22 --> 3440.22] Which is cool actually
1257
- [3440.22 --> 3441.22] That's really cool
1258
- [3441.22 --> 3442.22] Cause as of right now
1259
- [3442.22 --> 3444.22] I play one game on my phone
1260
- [3444.22 --> 3445.22] I use it for messaging services
1261
- [3445.22 --> 3446.22] Mainly email
1262
- [3446.22 --> 3447.22] And I take photos
1263
- [3447.22 --> 3448.22] And camera
1264
- [3448.22 --> 3450.22] That's pretty much it
1265
- [3450.22 --> 3452.22] Alright
1266
- [3452.22 --> 3453.22] Um
1267
- [3453.22 --> 3455.22] Blah blah blah
1268
- [3455.22 --> 3456.22] Some boring legal battles
1269
- [3456.22 --> 3457.22] Some other thing
1270
- [3457.22 --> 3458.22] Some other thing
1271
- [3458.22 --> 3460.22] And I think that's pretty much it for the WAN Show
1272
- [3460.22 --> 3461.22] Hooray
1273
- [3461.22 --> 3463.22] So thank you guys very much for tuning in
1274
- [3463.22 --> 3464.22] And
1275
- [3464.22 --> 3465.22] If you were wondering
1276
- [3465.22 --> 3467.22] If you're not already signed up for Floatplane
1277
- [3467.22 --> 3469.22] What's on Floatplane right now
1278
- [3469.22 --> 3470.22] Yeah
1279
- [3470.22 --> 3471.22] We're gonna go through it
1280
- [3471.22 --> 3472.22] Yes
1281
- [3472.22 --> 3473.22] Very good
1282
- [3473.22 --> 3475.22] Dying
1283
- [3475.22 --> 3479.22] So on Floatplane now is the mezzanine non-update
1284
- [3479.22 --> 3481.22] The office is in shambles
1285
- [3481.22 --> 3482.22] That was actually kind of interesting
1286
- [3482.22 --> 3484.22] The permits have stalled
1287
- [3484.22 --> 3487.22] Construction is not moving forward at the rate that we would have liked right now
1288
- [3487.22 --> 3490.22] And everything around here is in such
1289
- [3490.22 --> 3492.22] Horrendous condition
1290
- [3492.22 --> 3495.22] That it is killing me
1291
- [3495.22 --> 3497.22] It's a little bit of a behind the scenes look
1292
- [3497.22 --> 3499.22] At what it's like to work
1293
- [3499.22 --> 3501.22] Basically in a construction zone
1294
- [3501.22 --> 3502.22] Yep
1295
- [3502.22 --> 3503.22] Trying to film professional videos
1296
- [3503.22 --> 3504.22] You know the funny thing is
1297
- [3504.22 --> 3507.22] With like while increasing production quality
1298
- [3507.22 --> 3510.22] The feedback on our videos lately has been great
1299
- [3510.22 --> 3512.22] Speaking of which
1300
- [3512.22 --> 3515.22] Where is that one video that I like a lot?
1301
- [3515.22 --> 3516.22] There it is
1302
- [3516.22 --> 3517.22] Okay so this video
1303
- [3517.22 --> 3519.22] Turning Scrap Electronics into gold bars
1304
- [3519.22 --> 3520.22] Is like
1305
- [3520.22 --> 3523.22] Worth signing up for Floatplane Club over
1306
- [3523.22 --> 3524.22] It's freaking amazing
1307
- [3524.22 --> 3529.22] It's one of my favorite videos of any kind from any creator that I've watched in a while
1308
- [3529.22 --> 3531.22] And I had no idea that it was coming
1309
- [3531.22 --> 3532.22] And I'm not just saying that
1310
- [3532.22 --> 3535.22] Like if you wait till it comes on YouTube that's fine
1311
- [3535.22 --> 3536.22] Watch it it's an amazing video
1312
- [3536.22 --> 3538.22] But I would suggest checking it out on Floatplane
1313
- [3538.22 --> 3540.22] It'll look better anyways and sound better
1314
- [3540.22 --> 3541.22] So there's that
1315
- [3541.22 --> 3542.22] Yeah
1316
- [3542.22 --> 3543.22] But it's an amazing video
1317
- [3543.22 --> 3547.22] It doesn't feel necessarily 100% like a lot of the content that we make
1318
- [3547.22 --> 3548.22] Yep
1319
- [3548.22 --> 3553.22] It's much more like deep dive into something really interesting and informative
1320
- [3553.22 --> 3554.22] It's a very professional piece
1321
- [3554.22 --> 3555.22] I think it's super cool
1322
- [3555.22 --> 3557.22] There are no dick jokes
1323
- [3557.22 --> 3558.22] No
1324
- [3558.22 --> 3559.22] Which is like weird
1325
- [3559.22 --> 3564.22] We also reviewed what is hands down the best value gaming notebook we've ever checked out
1326
- [3564.22 --> 3565.22] That's cool
1327
- [3565.22 --> 3567.22] So this is the Predator Helios 300
1328
- [3567.22 --> 3573.22] We've got our review of EK Waterblocks' aluminum gaming products
1329
- [3573.22 --> 3574.22] I say gaming products
1330
- [3574.22 --> 3575.22] Water cooling products
1331
- [3575.22 --> 3577.22] But of course you can water cool a gaming machine
1332
- [3577.22 --> 3580.22] Tech quickies, phone tethering as fast as possible
1333
- [3580.22 --> 3583.22] And why does your internet connection randomly stop working?
1334
- [3585.22 --> 3586.22] This is a banging video
1335
- [3586.22 --> 3587.22] Oh yeah
1336
- [3590.22 --> 3592.22] The intro to this is fantastic
1337
- [3592.22 --> 3596.22] The ultimate DIY arcade machine guide
1338
- [3596.22 --> 3599.22] So that's the arcade machine that is behind us right now
1339
- [3599.22 --> 3601.22] You should blow it up and play it
1340
- [3601.22 --> 3603.22] Just the little intro bit
1341
- [3603.22 --> 3604.22] I want to tease them
1342
- [3604.22 --> 3605.22] Alright
1343
- [3605.22 --> 3607.22] We checked out the main gear Omen X
1344
- [3607.22 --> 3610.22] Like the most amazing looking gaming machine we have ever reviewed
1345
- [3610.22 --> 3611.22] Yeah
1346
- [3611.22 --> 3612.22] This thing is unbelievable
1347
- [3612.22 --> 3613.22] Like
1348
- [3613.22 --> 3614.22] Just the attention to detail
1349
- [3614.22 --> 3617.22] You give main gear like basically on a limited budget
1350
- [3617.22 --> 3619.22] And tell them to water cool things with hardline
1351
- [3619.22 --> 3620.22] And it'll look amazing
1352
- [3620.22 --> 3621.22] Yeah I know right
1353
- [3621.22 --> 3624.22] We've got our Asus Zephyrus
1354
- [3624.22 --> 3625.22] Review is up
1355
- [3625.22 --> 3628.22] So that's the thinnest GTX 1080 gaming laptop
1356
- [3628.22 --> 3631.22] Mezzanine update 8
1357
- [3631.22 --> 3632.22] The fire department intervenes
1358
- [3632.22 --> 3633.22] Oh boy
1359
- [3633.22 --> 3634.22] Uh yeah
1360
- [3634.22 --> 3637.22] Straight up not clickbait
1361
- [3637.22 --> 3640.22] And then Deadmau5's studio tour actually just went up on YouTube
1362
- [3640.22 --> 3641.22] So that's uh
1363
- [3641.22 --> 3643.22] So that's everything that's up on Floatplane right now
1364
- [3643.22 --> 3645.22] But not yet
1365
- [3645.22 --> 3646.22] Up on YouTube
1366
- [3646.22 --> 3648.22] You know we've actually
1367
- [3648.22 --> 3650.22] Even after Scrapyard Wars
1368
- [3650.22 --> 3651.22] Interest in Floatplane
1369
- [3651.22 --> 3653.22] Like people seem to be feeling like it's a pretty good value
1370
- [3653.22 --> 3654.22] Yeah
1371
- [3654.22 --> 3657.22] We've lost some subs which we knew
1372
- [3657.22 --> 3658.22] Yeah
1373
- [3658.22 --> 3659.22] Because Scrapyard Wars hype
1374
- [3659.22 --> 3663.22] But we're actually gaining new ones at the same rate
1375
- [3663.22 --> 3665.22] That we're bleeding them already
1376
- [3665.22 --> 3667.22] Which is pretty cool
1377
- [3667.22 --> 3668.22] Which is actually really cool
1378
- [3668.22 --> 3670.22] Um so I'm just gonna post that in Twitch chat
1379
- [3670.22 --> 3672.22] Where you guys can go sign off if you want to
1380
- [3672.22 --> 3674.22] And that's pretty much it
1381
- [3674.22 --> 3675.22] Um
1382
- [3675.22 --> 3676.22] Are you out of here right now?
1383
- [3676.22 --> 3678.22] Or did you wanna do a short uh Floatplane progress stream?
1384
- [3678.22 --> 3679.22] I can do that
1385
- [3679.22 --> 3680.22] Yeah
1386
- [3680.22 --> 3681.22] Sure why don't we do a short one
1387
- [3681.22 --> 3682.22] Okay
1388
- [3682.22 --> 3684.22] So uh intro blah blah blah
1389
- [3684.22 --> 3685.22] Oh whoops
1390
- [3685.22 --> 3686.22] There we go
1391
- [3687.22 --> 3688.22] Huh
1392
- [3688.22 --> 3689.22] I'm recovered now
1393
- [3692.22 --> 3693.22] Yes what do you need from me?
1394
- [3693.22 --> 3694.22] Thumbnail?
1395
- [3694.22 --> 3696.22] Uh where do you wanna shoot it?
1396
- [3698.22 --> 3699.22] Okay
1397
- [3699.22 --> 3700.22] Go ahead and fire it up
1398
- [3700.22 --> 3701.22] We're gonna do an after party stream
1399
- [3701.22 --> 3703.22] But just a short one
1400
- [3703.22 --> 3704.22] Um
1401
- [3704.22 --> 3705.22] Um
1402
- [3705.22 --> 3706.22] Yeah
1403
- [3706.22 --> 3708.22] And I'll just run over there
1404
- [3708.22 --> 3709.22] I'll take the thumbnail with you
1405
- [3709.22 --> 3710.22] And then I'll come back
1406
- [3710.22 --> 3711.22] I'll take the thumbnail with you
1407
- [3711.22 --> 3712.22] And then I'll come back