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[350.08 --> 356.06] it's like it's only for 20 seconds at a time but look at that
[356.06 --> 363.82] why did you encourage them why did you do it watching the bot just like just covered in carnage
[363.82 --> 369.74] just like it's not even a ban hammer i think they overpowered it it's a ban steamroll i'm not even
[369.74 --> 377.18] kidding did the bot crash no wait no maybe it's turned off or maybe yeah
[377.18 --> 379.36] maybe maybe it's temporarily off
[379.36 --> 390.42] all right um epic so okay let's jump into our first uh first first like external topic for the day
[390.42 --> 395.48] yeah this was posted by vegetable stew on the forum and the original article here is from mac rumors
[395.48 --> 403.50] boop looks a little something like that apple releases mac os high sierra 10.13.4
[403.50 --> 411.58] with e-gpu support and this is actually pretty exciting for a couple of reasons uh number one
[411.58 --> 419.54] is that i'm excited to finally be legitimately excited about thunderbolt ports on the macbook pro
[419.54 --> 426.54] and on the imac pro uh because i initially saw the imac pro and went wow it's got thunderbolt ports
[426.54 --> 434.20] that means that even though it's like a locked down sealed up apple product the most important
[434.20 --> 439.84] part of it that might need to be upgraded within the next i'd say three to four years
[439.84 --> 448.60] is the can actually be upgraded it's the gpu yeah so the imac pro if it supports e-gpu can have its ram
[448.60 --> 455.16] its storage i mean with some difficulty of course but it's ram its storage and its cpu upgraded to up to
[455.16 --> 462.48] an 18 core processor up to i think it's 256 gigs of ram that's a lot which is a lot only four sticks
[462.48 --> 466.96] so you gotta buy like really high density modules but still you can do it but but you can do it and
[466.96 --> 471.06] then it's got i forget it's either one or two ssd slots but i mean honestly a machine like that's
[471.06 --> 477.46] got 10 gig lan you should be using a high performance nas for your bulk storage anyway so it makes it like
[477.46 --> 484.50] a legitimately pro machine i was so disappointed when i found out that the imac pro didn't support
[484.50 --> 491.88] e-gpu unless you boot it into windows so the hardware was obviously there but apple had it
[491.88 --> 497.26] turned off in mac os so it didn't support e-gpu unless you booted it into windows and i'm still
[497.26 --> 502.52] disappointed about this one it still doesn't support uh display target mode or whatever they call that
[502.52 --> 507.22] target display mode so you can't continue to use it as a monitor for your like next generation
[507.22 --> 512.94] yeah imac pro especially because it is actually a really nice monitor so that would be nice that
[512.94 --> 518.50] would be super swell but uh here let's have a look and see if there's sort of anything else to add here
[518.50 --> 524.66] so the rest of the update includes um support for business chat conversations and messages in the u.s
[524.66 --> 530.68] whatever that see not being sort of immersed in the apple ecosystem i actually don't know what that
[530.68 --> 536.68] is me neither uh allows jumping to the right most open tab using command nine in safari oh boy
[536.68 --> 544.08] okay safari is so bad you know the one thing that makes it completely unusable for me is the fact that
[544.08 --> 553.68] it doesn't support favicons every tab is just gray oh yeah so i like i can't tell what anything is
[553.68 --> 560.50] that's actually unusable for me yeah like with the number of tabs yeah you became a tab i did i was so
[560.50 --> 568.52] good i corrupted i was so i corrupted him it's great like never beyond five i regularly use like
[568.52 --> 575.72] 25 to 35 gigs of ram with chrome now i'm regularly yeah right you don't even have an ultra wide yet
[575.72 --> 581.50] either because let me tell you okay my work computer is a walter right and at home i have three monitors
[581.50 --> 587.80] so okay okay you know what's up yeah yeah uh anyway so like it's completely unusable for me
[587.80 --> 594.00] um what else we got here you can sort safari bookmarks by name or url what are these updates
[594.00 --> 600.80] these are updates why are they all for the browser display privacy icons and link introduces a smoke cloud
[600.80 --> 611.74] wallpaper that was previously only available on the imac pro what is some more safari stuff uh okay so
[611.74 --> 617.02] let's focus on the e gpu stuff because that is by far the coolest thing about it the most exciting so
[617.02 --> 623.56] here here's the features you can connect additional external monitors or displays with your e gpu that's
[623.56 --> 627.68] pretty cool so not only being able to connect additional displays because you could do that already
[627.68 --> 633.96] but being able to drive them off of a different gpu very cool you can charge your macbook pro while
[633.96 --> 638.70] using e gpu so that's pretty cool if you're into mobile yeah uh you can use an e gpu with your
[638.70 --> 642.60] macbook pro while the built-in display is closed okay that i probably would have mostly taken for
[642.60 --> 648.36] granted you can connect more than one e gpu using the multiple thunderbolt three ports that's cool
[648.36 --> 654.98] yeah but any pc can do that too no i know but like yeah and you can use virtual reality headsets
[654.98 --> 659.14] plugged into the e gpu they don't have favicons i know trying to give them credit for everything
[659.14 --> 667.00] i know i know i know like give them what they can get i mean knowing i'm sure i'm sure there are mac
[667.00 --> 673.68] people in the chat that are like um actually linus there's on the on the app store you can actually
[673.68 --> 679.18] get this thing it's like 7.99 and it'll add favicon i'm like or everyone just downloads a different
[679.18 --> 684.68] browser everything on the mac is like that there's like a fix but it's like like a 17 dollar
[684.68 --> 689.38] download or whatever and it like fixes some of the bs in finder and you're just like yeah this would
[689.38 --> 696.52] probably be free on windows yeah and linux it would definitely be free um
[696.52 --> 705.86] people are like next topic no okay okay no no this is a big deal i was actually getting to
[705.86 --> 714.44] the uh sort of the the the climax here so to speak you can run an nvidia gpu on your mac yeah
[714.44 --> 721.90] properly in a supported way because up until now the only way to like nvidia has mac os drivers
[721.90 --> 727.26] they they've released them but the only way to run a modern nvidia card would be to be using a
[727.26 --> 732.94] mac pro from like 2013 or something or to be using a hackintosh
[732.94 --> 740.46] thanks bixby i really wasn't talking to you right now so i i think this is going to help a lot actually
[740.46 --> 745.64] because like the the macbook pros have been really popular for a long time especially for editing that's
[745.64 --> 750.44] right and now if you can yeah do some stuff on the road but also dock it when you come home
[750.44 --> 755.20] and edit more heavily there that's right i think that's actually really cool i think that's fantastic
[755.20 --> 760.30] and i mean not just editing i mean you look at any gpu accelerated workloads you know whether it's
[760.30 --> 766.44] simulation or whether it's rendering whatever the case may be like if you want i actually don't know
[766.44 --> 770.88] if nvidia has quadro drivers for the mac so don't quote me on this one but if you had the ability
[770.88 --> 776.68] to run a quadro on mac os and again i okay i don't know if like solid work supports it yet or anything
[776.68 --> 782.10] like that the point is we're moving in that direction and it's and choice is always good
[782.10 --> 788.40] in the same way that if you are able to choose between amd and nvidia on a pc it is good that you
[788.40 --> 794.54] can choose between amd and nvidia off for your apple experience too so that's the thing that i'm most stoked
[794.54 --> 802.78] on um actually this is this is interesting we've got um we've got someone asking why is it that apple
[802.78 --> 810.08] only uses amd this is from near rata time i don't know i don't know what that says um people are
[810.08 --> 814.76] saying no nvidia official support okay so we'll give it we'll give it a little we'll give it give
[814.76 --> 818.76] it a little bit more time for nvidia gpus to be officially supported yeah i was just gonna say i think
[818.76 --> 823.84] that's gonna become a thing over time they gotta do the first step but uh well i don't know with apple
[823.84 --> 829.26] you never know they may actually lock it down so something that alienware did is on their gaming
[829.26 --> 835.74] notebooks the ones that have the gpu dock their proprietary connector on the back they actually
[835.74 --> 841.12] intentionally locked out and i don't know if they're still doing it but they intentionally locked
[841.12 --> 848.00] out thunderbolt e gpus oh and you know it's intentional i think i talked about this with uh like
[848.00 --> 853.70] an alienware 13 review a little while back you can tell it's intentional because uh contemporary
[853.70 --> 861.40] xps models worked fine with e gpus and there was a specific error message that said that this is
[861.40 --> 868.20] that that thunderbolt e gpus are not supported on this model and so so it is possible that they would
[868.20 --> 875.58] do something like that so let's um let's let's sort of not put it past them but okay so there seems to
[875.58 --> 882.50] be some debate in the in the comments here in the twitch chat so wish i was dead 1990 uh says nvidia
[882.50 --> 889.58] does offer official support yes they do for their gpus but what i think people might be saying is that
[889.58 --> 896.86] apple is not currently supporting nvidia gpus with their e gpu uh enabled mac os and and i believe it
[896.86 --> 903.10] would be possible for them to allow or disallow so having not actually tried it yet and right now our
[903.10 --> 907.20] iMac pro is still broken we have a video coming on that very long story do you know anything about
[907.20 --> 912.58] this yeah okay very frustrating story well okay i haven't heard an update in a while but i do i know
[912.58 --> 917.80] everything about the beginning it hasn't gotten any less stupid okay okay yeah it's still broken it's
[917.80 --> 923.96] right there are they still refusing uh the video coming okay but it's i mean it's it's right there
[923.96 --> 930.10] right there that's a super broken broke dick screen on the front of it so um anyway understood
[930.10 --> 937.82] apparently they killed uh thunderbolt 2 support okay oh sorry i can't i can't uh will you discuss
[937.82 --> 944.36] the proof that intel cherry picks cpus for reviewers no probably not anyway because wait we we like did a
[944.36 --> 949.80] video we showed i'll be your chat filter i got you man okay okay i'm getting i'm getting triggered
[949.80 --> 957.58] he's getting flustered yeah um where was i going with this right right right um no actually i think
[957.58 --> 961.78] yeah apple e gpus i think we're pretty good yeah yeah it's a good thing it's a good thing we're
[961.78 --> 967.04] excited we hope i'm quite happy because i i actually think like especially you got us those blades
[967.04 --> 973.64] hold on hold that thought yep why apple only uses amd there's a big thread on the forum about this
[973.64 --> 979.88] this week we had someone asking in twitch chat um my my tinfoil hat theory i don't think apple's ever

[350.08 --> 356.06] it's like it's only for 20 seconds at a time but look at that

[356.06 --> 363.82] why did you encourage them why did you do it watching the bot just like just covered in carnage

[363.82 --> 369.74] just like it's not even a ban hammer i think they overpowered it it's a ban steamroll i'm not even

[369.74 --> 377.18] kidding did the bot crash no wait no maybe it's turned off or maybe yeah

[377.18 --> 379.36] maybe maybe it's temporarily off

[379.36 --> 390.42] all right um epic so okay let's jump into our first uh first first like external topic for the day

[390.42 --> 395.48] yeah this was posted by vegetable stew on the forum and the original article here is from mac rumors

[395.48 --> 403.50] boop looks a little something like that apple releases mac os high sierra 10.13.4

[403.50 --> 411.58] with e-gpu support and this is actually pretty exciting for a couple of reasons uh number one

[411.58 --> 419.54] is that i'm excited to finally be legitimately excited about thunderbolt ports on the macbook pro

[419.54 --> 426.54] and on the imac pro uh because i initially saw the imac pro and went wow it's got thunderbolt ports

[426.54 --> 434.20] that means that even though it's like a locked down sealed up apple product the most important

[434.20 --> 439.84] part of it that might need to be upgraded within the next i'd say three to four years

[439.84 --> 448.60] is the can actually be upgraded it's the gpu yeah so the imac pro if it supports e-gpu can have its ram

[448.60 --> 455.16] its storage i mean with some difficulty of course but it's ram its storage and its cpu upgraded to up to

[455.16 --> 462.48] an 18 core processor up to i think it's 256 gigs of ram that's a lot which is a lot only four sticks

[462.48 --> 466.96] so you gotta buy like really high density modules but still you can do it but but you can do it and

[466.96 --> 471.06] then it's got i forget it's either one or two ssd slots but i mean honestly a machine like that's

[471.06 --> 477.46] got 10 gig lan you should be using a high performance nas for your bulk storage anyway so it makes it like

[477.46 --> 484.50] a legitimately pro machine i was so disappointed when i found out that the imac pro didn't support

[484.50 --> 491.88] e-gpu unless you boot it into windows so the hardware was obviously there but apple had it

[491.88 --> 497.26] turned off in mac os so it didn't support e-gpu unless you booted it into windows and i'm still

[497.26 --> 502.52] disappointed about this one it still doesn't support uh display target mode or whatever they call that

[502.52 --> 507.22] target display mode so you can't continue to use it as a monitor for your like next generation

[507.22 --> 512.94] yeah imac pro especially because it is actually a really nice monitor so that would be nice that

[512.94 --> 518.50] would be super swell but uh here let's have a look and see if there's sort of anything else to add here

[518.50 --> 524.66] so the rest of the update includes um support for business chat conversations and messages in the u.s

[524.66 --> 530.68] whatever that see not being sort of immersed in the apple ecosystem i actually don't know what that

[530.68 --> 536.68] is me neither uh allows jumping to the right most open tab using command nine in safari oh boy

[536.68 --> 544.08] okay safari is so bad you know the one thing that makes it completely unusable for me is the fact that

[544.08 --> 553.68] it doesn't support favicons every tab is just gray oh yeah so i like i can't tell what anything is

[553.68 --> 560.50] that's actually unusable for me yeah like with the number of tabs yeah you became a tab i did i was so

[560.50 --> 568.52] good i corrupted i was so i corrupted him it's great like never beyond five i regularly use like

[568.52 --> 575.72] 25 to 35 gigs of ram with chrome now i'm regularly yeah right you don't even have an ultra wide yet

[575.72 --> 581.50] either because let me tell you okay my work computer is a walter right and at home i have three monitors

[581.50 --> 587.80] so okay okay you know what's up yeah yeah uh anyway so like it's completely unusable for me

[587.80 --> 594.00] um what else we got here you can sort safari bookmarks by name or url what are these updates

[594.00 --> 600.80] these are updates why are they all for the browser display privacy icons and link introduces a smoke cloud

[600.80 --> 611.74] wallpaper that was previously only available on the imac pro what is some more safari stuff uh okay so

[611.74 --> 617.02] let's focus on the e gpu stuff because that is by far the coolest thing about it the most exciting so

[617.02 --> 623.56] here here's the features you can connect additional external monitors or displays with your e gpu that's

[623.56 --> 627.68] pretty cool so not only being able to connect additional displays because you could do that already

[627.68 --> 633.96] but being able to drive them off of a different gpu very cool you can charge your macbook pro while

[633.96 --> 638.70] using e gpu so that's pretty cool if you're into mobile yeah uh you can use an e gpu with your

[638.70 --> 642.60] macbook pro while the built-in display is closed okay that i probably would have mostly taken for

[642.60 --> 648.36] granted you can connect more than one e gpu using the multiple thunderbolt three ports that's cool

[648.36 --> 654.98] yeah but any pc can do that too no i know but like yeah and you can use virtual reality headsets

[654.98 --> 659.14] plugged into the e gpu they don't have favicons i know trying to give them credit for everything

[659.14 --> 667.00] i know i know i know like give them what they can get i mean knowing i'm sure i'm sure there are mac

[667.00 --> 673.68] people in the chat that are like um actually linus there's on the on the app store you can actually

[673.68 --> 679.18] get this thing it's like 7.99 and it'll add favicon i'm like or everyone just downloads a different

[679.18 --> 684.68] browser everything on the mac is like that there's like a fix but it's like like a 17 dollar

[684.68 --> 689.38] download or whatever and it like fixes some of the bs in finder and you're just like yeah this would

[689.38 --> 696.52] probably be free on windows yeah and linux it would definitely be free um

[696.52 --> 705.86] people are like next topic no okay okay no no this is a big deal i was actually getting to

[705.86 --> 714.44] the uh sort of the the the climax here so to speak you can run an nvidia gpu on your mac yeah

[714.44 --> 721.90] properly in a supported way because up until now the only way to like nvidia has mac os drivers

[721.90 --> 727.26] they they've released them but the only way to run a modern nvidia card would be to be using a

[727.26 --> 732.94] mac pro from like 2013 or something or to be using a hackintosh

[732.94 --> 740.46] thanks bixby i really wasn't talking to you right now so i i think this is going to help a lot actually

[740.46 --> 745.64] because like the the macbook pros have been really popular for a long time especially for editing that's

[745.64 --> 750.44] right and now if you can yeah do some stuff on the road but also dock it when you come home

[750.44 --> 755.20] and edit more heavily there that's right i think that's actually really cool i think that's fantastic

[755.20 --> 760.30] and i mean not just editing i mean you look at any gpu accelerated workloads you know whether it's

[760.30 --> 766.44] simulation or whether it's rendering whatever the case may be like if you want i actually don't know

[766.44 --> 770.88] if nvidia has quadro drivers for the mac so don't quote me on this one but if you had the ability

[770.88 --> 776.68] to run a quadro on mac os and again i okay i don't know if like solid work supports it yet or anything

[776.68 --> 782.10] like that the point is we're moving in that direction and it's and choice is always good

[782.10 --> 788.40] in the same way that if you are able to choose between amd and nvidia on a pc it is good that you

[788.40 --> 794.54] can choose between amd and nvidia off for your apple experience too so that's the thing that i'm most stoked

[794.54 --> 802.78] on um actually this is this is interesting we've got um we've got someone asking why is it that apple

[802.78 --> 810.08] only uses amd this is from near rata time i don't know i don't know what that says um people are

[810.08 --> 814.76] saying no nvidia official support okay so we'll give it we'll give it a little we'll give it give

[814.76 --> 818.76] it a little bit more time for nvidia gpus to be officially supported yeah i was just gonna say i think

[818.76 --> 823.84] that's gonna become a thing over time they gotta do the first step but uh well i don't know with apple

[823.84 --> 829.26] you never know they may actually lock it down so something that alienware did is on their gaming

[829.26 --> 835.74] notebooks the ones that have the gpu dock their proprietary connector on the back they actually

[835.74 --> 841.12] intentionally locked out and i don't know if they're still doing it but they intentionally locked

[841.12 --> 848.00] out thunderbolt e gpus oh and you know it's intentional i think i talked about this with uh like

[848.00 --> 853.70] an alienware 13 review a little while back you can tell it's intentional because uh contemporary

[853.70 --> 861.40] xps models worked fine with e gpus and there was a specific error message that said that this is

[861.40 --> 868.20] that that thunderbolt e gpus are not supported on this model and so so it is possible that they would

[868.20 --> 875.58] do something like that so let's um let's let's sort of not put it past them but okay so there seems to

[875.58 --> 882.50] be some debate in the in the comments here in the twitch chat so wish i was dead 1990 uh says nvidia

[882.50 --> 889.58] does offer official support yes they do for their gpus but what i think people might be saying is that

[889.58 --> 896.86] apple is not currently supporting nvidia gpus with their e gpu uh enabled mac os and and i believe it

[896.86 --> 903.10] would be possible for them to allow or disallow so having not actually tried it yet and right now our

[903.10 --> 907.20] iMac pro is still broken we have a video coming on that very long story do you know anything about

[907.20 --> 912.58] this yeah okay very frustrating story well okay i haven't heard an update in a while but i do i know

[912.58 --> 917.80] everything about the beginning it hasn't gotten any less stupid okay okay yeah it's still broken it's

[917.80 --> 923.96] right there are they still refusing uh the video coming okay but it's i mean it's it's right there

[923.96 --> 930.10] right there that's a super broken broke dick screen on the front of it so um anyway understood

[930.10 --> 937.82] apparently they killed uh thunderbolt 2 support okay oh sorry i can't i can't uh will you discuss

[937.82 --> 944.36] the proof that intel cherry picks cpus for reviewers no probably not anyway because wait we we like did a

[944.36 --> 949.80] video we showed i'll be your chat filter i got you man okay okay i'm getting i'm getting triggered

[949.80 --> 957.58] he's getting flustered yeah um where was i going with this right right right um no actually i think

[957.58 --> 961.78] yeah apple e gpus i think we're pretty good yeah yeah it's a good thing it's a good thing we're

[961.78 --> 967.04] excited we hope i'm quite happy because i i actually think like especially you got us those blades

[967.04 --> 973.64] hold on hold that thought yep why apple only uses amd there's a big thread on the forum about this

[973.64 --> 979.88] this week we had someone asking in twitch chat um my my tinfoil hat theory i don't think apple's ever