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+{"text":"We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include: Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.) Gardening, farming and related activities Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching) Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc. Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.) Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.) Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.) Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.) Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.) Gear related to any of the above topics Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!"}
+{"text":"Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks."}
+{"text":"5° AT Trip, Am I Cooked? I'm gonna be going on a 2 night, 20-mile trip on the AT this coming Friday. It looks like it'll be a lot colder than I was anticipating. Could you give me your opinion on whether or not my gear will keep me warm enough? Am I cooked? WEATHER: Friday - 22° Hi, 8°Lo, Clear, 16mph wind Saturday - 14°Hi, 5°Lo, Clear, 8mph wind Sunday - 14° Hi, 9° Lo, Clear, 3mph wind SLEEP/CLOTHING: \\-Trilaminate military-style bivy sack Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"If you aren't confident in your gear or your survival skills then you cancel the trip. You aren't bringing shelter and you aren't bringing enough food to keep yourself active, and sleeping bag companies always overestimate their capabilities by 10-20 degrees f. If you improvise a shelter every night, have a steady fire, and hunt or increase supply stock to offset all the extra activity and cold calorie loss, you probably won't make your destination on time due to needing to stop early to scavenge for shelter and fuel."}
+{"text":"You need a good tent to protect yourself from the cold and wind. You can sleep in a bivy but you do not have room to eat, change clothes, sort gear in a bivy."}
+{"text":"The snowy world you grew up in no longer exists. There are those out there who made billions depriving you of snowy winters."}
+{"text":"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his recklessly consoomerist lifestyle depends on his not understanding it."}
+{"text":"You won't be around to see that though. Incoherent nigbabble. Just ignore it."}
+{"text":"There's plenty of data available in ice cores, tree rings, oxygen isotope ratios in sedimentary plankton and corals, radiocarbon dating, direct human measurements in the historic record, and the geologic features of the landscape itself. Just because you're too stupid to understand the evidence doesn't mean it can be wholly dismissed."}
+{"text":"Bro i live at 9.8k feet in Colorado and I'm looking at a grassy lawn rn"}
+{"text":"They won't respond to this."}
+{"text":"aren't those mountains downright dangerous this time of year"}
+{"text":"the last sunlight of november, the sun is only returning right now"}
+{"text":"Moosilauke yesterday. There was about a 30 minute window of blue skies and everything closed back in for the rest of the day, scattered snow showers and 40+ mph winds. It was hard to get back on trail from the summit cone without GPS."}
+{"text":"Saw a group heading up at around 2:30, still below the first overlook, hopefully they turned around because they didn't look prepared. Small jansport style bags, no visible gloves, hardshells or traction devices and one of the girls was wearing a cotton hoodie. When I was getting onto the sawyer highway I saw that they had parked illegally at the end of ravine road and had tickets waiting for them. Hopefully they don't pop up on NH Fish and Game later as a rescue."}
+{"text":"I like rage gardening, gardening under pressure, and spite hothousing."}
+{"text":"\"oh you wanna be a bitch you fucking habanero whore??\" shoves it into the oven whole. yeah fuck you and your lice. i can get very very angry at plants. ironically the Carolina reaper ive chokeslammed last year went on the be the best plant."}
+{"text":"a lot of cityfags did guerrilla gardenening in the 2010s when i lived around such foul places. it was kinda based though. one dude even planted weed everywhere that was fun. i am growing veggies and weed both in and outdoors and i feel like indoor stuff is much harder. if thats \"extreme\" enough for you."}
+{"text":"Carolina reaper I love these fucking peppers, although I also like the fruity taste that ghost peppers have despite being less hot"}
+{"text":"For me, it’s Trinidad Scorpion."}
+{"text":"Everyone check in - New England here, waiting to see something Tonight is supposed to be the night"}
+{"text":"Epic drug use bro"}
+{"text":"cry more bitch"}
+{"text":"I’m in DFW. Probably won’t see shit"}
+{"text":"Minnesota, exactly 45°n here. It was underwhelming and not worth staying up to 2 am for. Perhaps if I had a better view of the northern horizon and wasn’t so close to town it would have been better, but it was underwhelming compared to November 11th or several other events over the last two years"}
+{"text":"By comparison, here’s November 11th."}
+{"text":"see this, what do?"}
+{"text":"lurk more"}
+{"text":"WHOS A GOOD BEAR WHOS A GOOD BEAR"}
+{"text":"I kill the cubs and take the she-bear as my new mate"}
+{"text":"Clawed paws typed this post"}
+{"text":"tfw it's real"}
+{"text":"Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the public outright should be turned into condos for millionaires instead."}
+{"text":"Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the public Thats where all the kids go missing Yes it does, if you're jewish"}
+{"text":"No, that's retarded, but your pic is comfy."}
+{"text":"Pussy, walk out onto the fin"}
+{"text":"My legs were exhausted by the time I reached the top and I didn't want to risk dying. The sign says the view is just as good from the allowed view-cuckbox but I don't think it is. I hate scary rock outcroppings with no railings and believe me I spend plenty of time on them. I watched a fit early 20 something couple ascend off into the fins, and I think other people too. Kinda sucks they can't put a proper path into the fins to a better view. I guess the actual better view is from Roaring Plains, but that's an annoying one because you have to be there sept 1- dec 31 for the road to be open otherwise its a much longer walk."}
+{"text":"There's a similar place at the top of Mt. Laguna in San Diego. Nice railed area for viewing but if you hop the rail and walk around the corner theres a ledge. Its basically a shelf thats 6,000 feet above the valley floor. And its slightly sloped (towards the drop off of course). Friend and I sat there and had lunch after a hike once. One slip and it would have been flight training with no recovery."}
+{"text":"What does your backpacking kit look like & what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail? This is my basic kit alot of the gear is 10 years old or more I have recently added a camp chair & a little bidet that goes on a water bottle. My favorite piece of gear is not pictures but it is a frybake pan which is basically a lightweight dutch oven I will be using it on my trip at the end of this month to roast a chicken & make stuffing."}
+{"text":"The only thing that's a little unusual is my 6L hydropak water bag. I carry 8L for overnights innadesert. I know AZT thru hikers often carry less, but there are known water sources at intervals on the trail. I just go wander around in the sky islands. There are springs on the map but they're often dry. I've marked the locations of cattle tanks but sometimes they move the herds and the tanks are dry."}
+{"text":"Oh wow that is a cool piece of gear! Is it compatible with a sawyer water filter or how do you fill it on the trail? I may have to get one for when camp is far from a water source that would be game changing for dinner time & clean up without having to walk back & forth between the creek all night"}
+{"text":"Take the hammock pill."}
+{"text":"This nigger doesn't know about specialization. Keep making those cookies cuck."}
+{"text":"Stopping at the burger place on the way back. Would bet they serve up a great burger."}
+{"text":"Chocolate covered peanuts. Apples, oranges or dates. Raisins. Oat porridge with raisins and jam for breakfast, and two cups of strong and sweet tea. For lunch (only really on the first day if it's a multi-day hike) I like a big sandwich with lots of butter, thick slices of ham, honey, black pepper, brie, and maybe salad or bell peppers. Cured sausage and a few glugs of aquavit for when I reach the goal of the trip. No, the real treat is a petrol station burger (biggest they have, no fries) and a bottle of ice cold Coke when I get back down. Sit down on the bench outside and eat it sensuously."}
+{"text":"Can't go wrong with GORP"}
+{"text":"Hardtack this is only good when you've been on a ship for an extended period of time and all the other food has been eaten already. You let it soak in your coffee for a little while and then use a spoon to skim the weevils and weevil eggs off of the top"}
+{"text":"The Aird-X is a dogshit rod with a dogshit name. The blank feels terrible and so does the handle. The Lightning Rod is way better. I'm going to buy two of them on Wednesday. Daiwa makes great rods, but the Aird-X is terrible."}
+{"text":"Thanks guys though I'm gonna disappoint. The rod/reel you've suggested is probably a million times better than what I'm gonna end up with cause I'm going to go to a store close by to buy a rod/reel there. I guess idk what I was really asking lol Since that post I realized I prefer spinners I'm taking old man with me to help pick one out from what they have available since his still big into fishing."}
+{"text":"that's not true at all aside from the reelseat which iis entirely subjective. it's minimalist to enhance sensitivity on a budget blank. everything else about that rod punches above it's weight. haven't held a lightning rod but other berkley rods i've held in the budget range are pretty shit and have bad reviews. tell me what's good about the \"24 ton modulus\" blank on the lightning rod? that's very low end. I've stepped on an aird-x multiple times on concrete and not damaged it, beat that. at the end of the day you do you, but your opinion is contradictory to countless reputable fishermen and you probably never even bought an arid-x. you're acting like a $50 rod is supposed to be amazing? how much is berkley paying you?"}
+{"text":"Yeah below a certain price point all you can do is send it and make it work."}
+{"text":"just don't buy a junk reel. there are $50 reels that are absolute junk and feel like slop after a few months. walmart has shimano Fx fc for $20 and sienna fg for $30. those won't have any slop in them out of the box and they don't use potmetal for the gears. avoid rod/reel combo pacakges because most of the time they give you a junk reel, unless it's daiwa or shimano... but even then a lot of times they get damaged in shipping or by children in store."}
+{"text":"Was he retarded? or free?"}
+{"text":"why didn't the so called magic bus realize alexander was a member of the proletariat and provide the means to sustain life."}
+{"text":"the wikipedia page likely has more info then some overly drawn out youtube slop."}
+{"text":"Total freedom begets total retardation. He was both."}
+{"text":"All I'd have to donisnbring a sat phone. Boom I don't die and thus do better. It's called being a survivalist for a reason."}
+{"text":"You barely even qualify as human."}
+{"text":"Is there anything I should know to deal with winter conditions hiking? I've never been hiking with a significant amount of snow or ice, but am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA."}
+{"text":"You can replace the hats, neck warmer and balaclava with a single polar buff."}
+{"text":"I've summited Washington in the winter. You want a rigid boot with crampons."}
+{"text":"I see you just mentioned hiking. Be careful in the winter time though. Understand that it gets very cold at night and often windy. If you decide to camp overnight you need a very good inflatable pad to keep you off of the frozen ground. The ground will wick all of the heat away from your body because your body weight will crush the insulating material you are laying on. - quality inflatable sleeping pad - quality sleeping bag - quality tent - suitable layers of clothing. Seems easy enough until you get caught in a rain shower on a 35 degree day with wind. - food - water"}
+{"text":"I like having spares, especially of different weights in case I sweat one out or want to adjust. How do you propose to wear a buff as a hat? You want a rigid boot with crampons. I respectfully disagree. There are some routes where you need steel-shanked mountaineering boots and crampons like lions head, but ammo and jewell are both walk-ups you can do in trail runners and microspikes on a good day. I absolutely believe in coming prepared though, and on the bad days packing light and fast like that will get you killed. That being said, if you were to park at ammo on a sunday or monday the weekend crowd will probably have tamped down the trail enough to breeze up in a few hours under good conditions."}
+{"text":"For 3-season, sure. You need this level of redundancy in winter in the alpine if you want to keep your ears. buff as a hat Twist the top and pull it back down over your head. How do you survive leaving your house?"}
+{"text":"With gears its not so much about effort as it is time."}
+{"text":"Behold A quad bike with articulating chassis"}
+{"text":"just pack a tent lmao"}
+{"text":"I think it's a good way to get trapped and raped by hobos."}
+{"text":"What if OPs intent was always hobo sex?"}
+{"text":"If you are a hunter or angler you now possess the power to bring back two species. Game or fish. You can only pick one category. you may pick two species one will not displace or harm an ecosystem it will be available to pursue by yourself and the public in its traditional range and sustain itself the other will be only for you in an environment which it lived you will have a one time pursuit of it with sufficient resources either species may be living or extinct What are your choices?"}
+{"text":"Mammoths because I found a parts of a skeleton about ten miles from my home. The desert and it was in a deep erosion cut. Something maybe part of a thigh bone 6 ft long, wide as a large pumpkin in circumference. It makes me think of Skyrim"}
+{"text":"Ain't no way these stood up with bird bones. I bet they flopped around like walruses and were filthy and stank."}
+{"text":"Salt and pepper Then just fry them"}
+{"text":"Megarachne. As a prank. People eat tarantulas sonit counts."}
+{"text":"Penguins are flightless and don't have hollow \"bird bones,\" bird brain. They need dense bones to stay under water and hunt otherwise they'd be floating to the surface constantly."}
+{"text":"Since I think all y'all would be the most mature and knowledgable board about this: I need to settle this debate for our families emergency kits when a snowstorm or power outage hits. (I checked for a stupid questions thread but there wasn't any) I am arguing in favor of getting two butane gas stoves/burners for general use, see picrel The reason for this is that I want to be able to cook indoors for obvious security reasons. We all live in the same, but pretty cramped subdivision, and everyone can look into eachothers front and back yards. However, my brother is having a mental breakdown how carbon dioxide will kill us if we'd cook indoors without mechanical ventilation or a range hood after a power outage. Regardless of cracking a window or two. For indoor use I would prefer to use one of those flat stoves rather than something tall like those stoves that you screw on top of a canister, due to its much higher center of gravity. I know there are some safety concerns with those flat stoves, but to my knowledge that is caused by using pots or pans on the stove that are way too large, reflecting and conducting a lot of heat back down to where the gas canister is, causing it to burst under pressure, and the gas igniting from the lit burner, causing a nice thermobaric effect I suppose. Let's focus the discussion purely using a propane (butane too I guess) stove indoors in an emergency with regard to breathing safety. Are there any risks if you just cook in one room upstairs with the window(s) open? Do the risks outweigh the safety/security offered by cooking indoors to your opinion?"}
+{"text":"that gas heater actually has a tiny little pilot light that burns on the outside, they're pretty safe"}
+{"text":"since op is concerned of carbon monoxide, and though he's about propane and butane, i'd recommend a spirit stove (trangia and similar brands) using methanol (methil alcohol). methanol is on every Chinese store here, and readily available. it's toxic, so dont drink it, but is kind of safe if you dont do much contact or inhale much of it. point is, it has one single carbon atom, so it combines stechiometrically perfect with an oxygen molecule (2 oxygens) making perfect combustion: no monoxide but maybe some traces. the stove has no mechanical pieces: long life. just learn how much alcohol you'll need for every dish and it's all. it's cheap also. silent, etc. very happy with it, inside a boat, at home, etc. i use it with no ventilation if it's rough outside. no problems by now. stable, and if you take the time to learn the amount of alcohol, you can forget about it, as, when the lentils are done, alcohol is finished. no risk to forget and burn. you can use any alcohol, also: ethil alcohol (sanitary one), isopropyl, even vodka, but the only one which will not soot black your pots is still methanol. take care."}
+{"text":"I have one of these literally under my sink.And i have no ventilation other then windows and doors"}
+{"text":"An open room is more than enough to stop \"carbon dioxide\" poisoning, let alone cracking a window. Provided you're just using the stove for meals and not planning on running it 24/7 for emergency heating you should go with the camp stove."}
+{"text":"I love me some naptha-induced tent eye in the morning"}
+{"text":"Are Himalayas better than Alps for someone who is in good shape but doesn't climb very dangerous peaks?"}
+{"text":"The Alps aren't a big deal. Average altitude of ski logdes is about 5,000 feet. Thats the same as Denver Colorado. Las Vegas valley floor is at about 2,000 feet. The lodge at Lee Canyon ski resort is at about 8,200 feet and is a 45 minute drive from The Strip. The peak of the mountain is 12,000 feet."}
+{"text":"Europe here. Dolomites actually. You're not welcome. We're sick and tired of the helicopters. All day, every day. They're looking for you idiots. Why, I don't know. Most of you are already dead by the time the heli lifts off. Go to the Himalayas. They're prettier, more dangerous and more impressive. Leave us alone. We don't want you dying here."}
+{"text":"No actual north american outdoorsman would ever go to europe for anything nature related. We pick up and rescue way more of you european boobs here when you simply drive to far down a road cause the freedom here is too much for you to handle."}
+{"text":"For me it's the Alps. Wake up in bliss small town, take the free public transit to the trailhead, or ask a local to car pool me there if needed. Do a brisk walk along the nicely maintained trail, then head back down into town to relax and drink wine and eat cheeses. You just can't get that kind of experience in Nepal"}
+{"text":"You can't even walk along a river without getting shot for trespassing"}
+{"text":"Bro I hate this so fucking much. I tried to help my friend dig his own patch and we dug out a shitload of masonry like bricks, concrete bits, tiles, even a large piece of broken toilet. That shit is a crime"}
+{"text":"Seconding this. I have saved more than one doomed plant by taking cuttings of the healthier looking parts. Also, once the cutting gets big and grown, propagate it AGAIN. Always back up your plants."}
+{"text":"yeah man ive found stuff in my garden you wouldnt believe. old masonry shit, rocks, fucking rusted up wehrmacht helmets. i swear to god one day ill find an english bomb and die about it."}
+{"text":"Burp"}
+{"text":"The deed is done. I took the mat out and cut the hole a lot bigger so that it doesn't touch the trunk and gives it plenty of space. it fit back nicely and gives the soil plenty of cover without touching the base. Should be nice for summer, it's been super rainy but tons of hot sunny days coming later this week"}
+{"text":"Is /ice climbing/ yuru?"}
+{"text":"Nice new, unused rope, anon. I see you got some used ice axes so people don't immediately notice your brand new gear this time..."}
+{"text":"What's some of your favorite /out/ approved kinos?"}
+{"text":"megabased"}
+{"text":"SG1"}
+{"text":"There it is. Brutal movie, extremely excellent."}
+{"text":"Any experience using Meshtastic devices out on a camping trip or whatever?"}
+{"text":"...why?"}
+{"text":"Hello /out/ it's me again. Maybe it is time for another abandoned mine exploration thread. I have posted these for over a decade; this will be the last one. AMA. I'll answer what I can. I hope you enjoy."}
+{"text":"did you stop and poop?"}
+{"text":"I recently got my bachelor's in history from my local university, honestly even though I'm qualified for office jobs and stuff, I'd rather have a farm in Tennessee and grow weed and shrooms and opium and DMT (if the climate of Tennessee allows to grow DMT containing compounds), and raise chicken and sell eggs and sell fruits and vegetables, and power my farm home with renewable energy like solar panels."}
+{"text":"If weed isn't legal, then it's a pain to grow. You need to grow it indoors, which means hydroponics and lights and a lot of electricity. I had a friend who pulled it off in QC before it became legal and told me some stories. First, he had to take out a lone with the HA to buy the equipment and get everything set up. Then he had to steal the electricity because the power company was cracking down on grow ops. He also had a bunch of hair raising stories about selling the weed. You don't want all the local kids heading to your farm to grab a oz or 2 and the people who'll buy a kg of weed tend to be massive unreliable assholes and own to many guns."}
+{"text":"Well that's ok because he also plans to produce and distribute opium"}
+{"text":"Poppies are actually legal to grow."}
+{"text":"Ain't nobody doing resell scale production of opium in NA."}
+{"text":"History degree Sorry to hear that man. I chose Poli. Sci. Should’ve had STEM autism instead of social studies"}
+{"text":"any subcultures other than rock climbing that have a dirtbagging scene?"}
+{"text":"Conservation corps. Never realized others pursue careers doing my dirty habits. Surely some here have participated."}
+{"text":"Wrong. The carving depicts skiers. It is a White Sea Rock carving and was made before 2,000 BC. The experts disagree with you and the evidence they've discovered disagree with you."}
+{"text":"They work at the resorts to get free passes. Back in the day called ski bums. Easy to spot on slope (worn gear) but always great skiers."}
+{"text":"The only two people that I've met that have done conservation work were both rich white women that just wandered aimlessly through life while their parents paid for everything. Dirtbagging isn't financially possible anymore."}
+{"text":"The ones i knew were brokies. Hike 30-60 miles inna woods for back breaking trail work months at a time. cold water washing and paid seasonal barely min wage. Best hope was to get hired year-round at USFS or National Parks but no way that was happening then or now. They just enjoy being /out/ or am I mistaken on dirtbagging?"}
+{"text":"Are these psilocybin?"}
+{"text":"he is trying to kill you you goddamn idiot."}
+{"text":"eat them and find out"}
+{"text":"100% not psychedelic"}
+{"text":"why dont you just do some incredibly basic research and find out for yourself retard"}
+{"text":"Try some. You can eat anything once."}
+{"text":"Have any of you seen bigfoot?"}
+{"text":"Deer also do a lot of crashing around. Fighting during the rut season scrubbing thw felt off their antlers. Theu kill dozens of sapings every year just scrubbing their antlers at my place."}
+{"text":"We didn't have much dear back then. And this was just one crash and then dead silence."}
+{"text":"Branches break off and fall all the time. Think about all the dead fall cluttering the forest floor that snapped off 40+ feet in the air."}
+{"text":"Autist here. What is the appropriate way to greet women that you encounter on the trail?"}
+{"text":"Women have a natural inclination for wiccanism and paganism because it speaks to their lost ancestral tradition, although distorted. Younger foids are becoming racist pagan trad girls again, there is hope for the next gen of men to find good partners outside the church."}
+{"text":"Had some yuppies report me to a ranger muy basado"}
+{"text":"These are absolutely not good women lmao. If you think they have anything of value for you then I hope you are ready for the rollercoaster of retardation to come"}
+{"text":"long beard, scruffy looking, odd shaped me too, and i like to run on all fours so ive freaked hikers out before thinking i was a bear and i come out of the shrubbery. good times"}
+{"text":"i usually just give a quick wave and say hi and keep walking. then i turn around start screaming and running on all fours off the trail and into the woods"}
+{"text":"near one of the most remote lakes in the western US. I thought /out/ told me the western US was remote and untouched. all you really need is a car, AllTrails™ App, and some running shoes?"}
+{"text":"no #calledyouonyourlarp"}
+{"text":"meh. maybe. in my state, state land is relatively small in comparison to federal land but what it has is very accessible- and not just state parks. The state owns all sorts of random parcels that are not developed in any way- little to no signage etc....but you are free to hike, fish, hunt on it etc...its great because a lot of people dont even know about it (them) so they see very little traffic. he is refering to land owned by the State not federal land"}
+{"text":"Has anyone been to the little slot of BLM land in SD?"}
+{"text":"no. but been past it on the hwy. its right outside of sturgis so not super isolated but looks cool enough. some historic stuff there too."}
+{"text":"RuffleKKKuntz dat be Jenny Lake trailhead in Grand Tit-ons there was just a news article on it and how Delta lake is over-infested with humanimals in need of extermination"}
+{"text":"my friend is backpacking in the grand canyon this march and asked last minute if I wanted to come backcountry permits for this mach closed already do they even check for those in the park?? I hiked the high sierra trail in sequoia national park and no one ever asked for my permit, even as I was going down to the mount whitney trailhead should I just risk it? are they more likely to check for permits in the grand canyon? also, if they do, if I just told them an animal ran off with it or something, would they let me off the hook?"}
+{"text":"If your friend has a permit I think they can just add you. I have seen rangers on a couple of my hikes in the grand canyon on the popular trails (bright angel and kaibab), I think in those areas if you're camping you have to stay at one of the designated campsites anyway though and pretty sure you have to check in at those. anywhere else more remote with dispersed camping I doubt you'll see a ranger unless you're unlucky"}
+{"text":"Backcountry permits aren't a thing. Laws can only be made on what can be enforced. Backcountry permits cannot be successfully enforced."}
+{"text":"They can just add you assuming you havent met an upper limit on number of people in a group. I would say you are more likely to run into a ranger in the busier parts of the grand canyon like than on the HST in sequoia. If you risk it and do run into a ranger, whether they let it slide will depend mostly on your manners and if you are breaking other rules. Saying an animal stole it is like saying a dog ate your homework and will just piss them off. They also can easily check with the permit office over radio or even have printouts of all the permit holders in the area they patrol, so dont lie to them. t. forest janny who has worked checking backcountry permits on the HST"}
+{"text":"You have to be >16 to post on 4chan."}
+{"text":"It's been a little while, /out/.... Thinking about camping with my dad as a kid. He died earlier this year. I miss the hell out of you dad."}
+{"text":"When the money is fake, everything is. Being a lawyer is fine, it suckles at the teet of the state and becomes fat which is all anybody could hope to do in this hellhole."}
+{"text":"Just see it as their time. It's the next part of their life journey. See it less as something to be sad about, and rather slight excitement for them to make it to the next step, none of us escape it. That brings me comfort anyway."}
+{"text":"Good on you, getting sober is not easy."}
+{"text":"I wonder, if you held an alcoholic in recovery down and pumped their anal cavity with alcohol. Would they hold the alcohol, or would they shit it out? You've seen alcoholics being force fed alcohol but never a forced buttchug. The question is: would they accept this windfall/defeat? Would they yield or resist based on the strangeness of it?"}
+{"text":"Well, this is response I did not expect. So I will give you one in return. The colon is actually capable of absorbing the alcohol, so they would get drunk as fuck. There was a trend (and I hope it is still alive), where girls were dipping tampons in booze and inserting them in their butthole to get drunk secretly over long period. Did the guys do it too? I dont know, maybe gayboys did. But anyway I do not want to go on a tangent, I guess the alcoholics feelings would depend whether he/she is in treatment willingly. Maybe if you told him/her that it is because it wont smell from breath, they would look forward to it."}
+{"text":"yea"}
+{"text":"Wtf I thought he wears sun glasses."}
+{"text":"hey retard that's a goldfinch. I feed upwards of 20 of them in my backyard. Let me know when you get a legendary or rare bird. bitch!"}
+{"text":"How to take care of leather hiking boots? I bought a pair of razorbacks, but I have no clue of how to take care of leather? And how to break them in? Help me /out/"}
+{"text":"you wear them and go through the suffering until they are comfy. otherwise you could piss into them unironically thats how german soldiers did it back in ze day. my granny said something in the piss makes the leather smooth."}
+{"text":"What's /out/ opinion on boot knives? Thinking of getting one because they're the easiest fixed blade knives to EDC that are also large and easy enough to conceal. Survival knives are too large and look mall-ninja-tier when edc'd and neck knives are usually too small."}
+{"text":"accuses others of posting stock images posts a stock image ??? chill out cleetus i'm sure you're very spooky with your totally not a larp knife"}
+{"text":"A boot knife is any knife you carry in/on your boot. There are reasons that you may want to do this but frankly if you're asking /out/ about it then you probably don't have a practical reason. Soldiers in certain roles might have gear the makes belt carry impractical, you often see (or at least saw) that in airborne troops. That's also why Chris Redfield carries his knife the way he does in RE1. I carried a knife in my boot in high school because I was often accosted by homeless people on the way home but it was only in my boot at school for concealment, it was in my pocket as soon as I was on my way home so I could actually get to it. You're probably determined to do this no matter what anyone tells you so I recommend that you get the S&W HRT, it's a copy of the Gerber Mk1. Everyone in China makes a copy of the Mk1 but S&W's comes with a better sheath than most and even if you use this thing most of what you'll be doing is carrying it. If you're willing to spend a little more money then Cold Steel's integral dagger is nice and also comes with a nice sheath."}
+{"text":"Are you really trying to impress us with a stainless steel, Pakistani rennfair piece? And Jesus Christ, vacuum your keyboard."}
+{"text":"Asked about boot knives, posted a picture of a dagger This thread went to shit pretty fast, but it's not really surprising. Having a knife in your boot is retarded and makes you run funny as you chafe. Get a decent fixed knife with only one sharp edge about 4-6 inches in length, and carry it at your waist. Easy to do if you wear a belt. Works for whittling, cutting cords or fishing line, cutting up an apple, or whatever else. If you're trying to see what piece of metal helps you win a knife fight, the answer is a gun."}
+{"text":"the besone shown here.t"}
+{"text":"I want to quit society and live out in nature. Where can I do this, and how should I prepare?"}
+{"text":"I swear I've seen this exact thread before post for post. This is a botted demoralization thread, isn't it?"}
+{"text":"Faggot. that wasn't even my post. The cunty little shit wants to live off grid. he wants to be self sufficient. Great! But rather than being self sufficient and doing the MOST BASIC OF FUCKING RESEARCH, his first step, his first (and likely, only) FUCKING STEP is to ask the retarded CUNTY FAGGOT SHITS on this board to spoon feed him. Do you not see the problem there? This same obnoxiously retarded thread pops up on a weekly basis please wipe my ass for me, i can't figure out how to google basic shit, spoon feed me how to be super self sufficient and move off grid. And then cunty little faggot shits like you white knight for these idiots. I legitimately hope everyone who posts these kinds of retarded fucking threads actually goes for it and McCandless' themselves."}
+{"text":"Where can I do this, Rural Alaska, particularly native villages that are cut off from the road system. and how should I prepare? Location Pick a village with a low crime rate, ideally one with a VPSO but no VPOs or TPOs. That makes sure that the tweakers stay in check, but you're not being badgered by some faggot at the behest of the tribal council. Research which villages are cool with whatever ethnicity you are. There's one village near Anchorage that straight up ran two white families out and stole their houses. Nothing really got done about it. Make sure you don't move to some cartoonishly racist village. Sustenance Most villages love violating hunting regulations, so as long as you're not stupid you'll be able to hunt all you want. Some really native villages have a \"your first moose kill goes to the village elders\" rule, so just avoid letting anyone know if you get one. Net fishing is the go-to in the village, and you can get all you need for the year in just a few months. Smoke it or find a way to keep it frozen and you have food all year. Get a botanical field guide to help with herb and berry identification. Environmental considerations If you're on the Cook Inlet, you'll have decent weather comparatively but a lot of the land is marshy. Mosquitoes are already bad here, they're much worse along the inlet. If you're in the interior, you better have a SOLID insulation setup and some way to keep your shelter airtight. It is currently -40 in some parts of the interior. If you're on an island like the Aleutians or anything directly facing the Pacific ocean, you will need to be prepared for tsunamis. And volcanoes. And typhoons, I guess."}
+{"text":"One of the Alaskafags here. It's because so much of the state is undeveloped, mostly because yeah it kinda sucks. Anywhere warm winds up developed, and that means those places attract annoying busybody faggots who will call the sheriffs/troopers on you for trying to live innawoods and you'll wind up getting badgered by some retard eventually. You can really just disappear here in AK if you want."}
+{"text":"You can really just disappear here in AK if you want. Is this true?"}
+{"text":"I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?"}
+{"text":"Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm looking for a big (45+L) pack with removable lid that can turn into a daypack like this youtube.com/watch?v=g9dDFltpt1Y [Embed] (But not quite like this. I'd love the daypack to have a long vertical compartment that can fit an ipad or a small laptop)"}
+{"text":"Maybe Eberlestock has something like that. I know one of their large ruck packs has a lid daypack."}
+{"text":"Frames for daypacks are overkill, simple as."}
+{"text":"Granite Gear makes good shit."}
+{"text":"that's pretty cool but for me personally that would be too much work converting the whole thing. i'd probably just bring an extra smaller pack and use that. there should be many lightweight options, especially if you are looking for something in the 10L range"}
+{"text":"Never heave anywhere without it. HOOORAH Support The Troops! Shart In Mart! O\\"}
+{"text":"When I through hiked the AT I started weighing everything I had. it gets retarded, the lighter your pack the more enjoyment you get from the trails. Toilet paper was heavier than I expected comparatively and cat holeing was super stupid. In Franklin North Carolina I found a squeeze water bottle and had the idea, I'm already carrying water to drink why not put some in a tiny squeeze bottle and just spray my ass. Worked great for the rest of the summer."}
+{"text":"cums on floor pulls tissue from tactical TP holder wipes it up with patriotism SIR YES SIR"}
+{"text":"doubles the weight of your shit kit nothing personnel kid"}
+{"text":"You discovered wat the Flipapenis people called TABO Basically they use some water to rinse they azz off after p00pin'"}
+{"text":"I don't take TP because I rarely, almost never, poop in the woods."}
+{"text":"Do you like exploring caves? What sort of caves have you been in?"}
+{"text":"Not cave but dgaf. Old psych facility nearby (Buffalo NY) had tunnels under it. Would go explore them a shit ton, they led to other buildings in the facility. You could see the asbestos in the air though lmao"}
+{"text":"Yeah mate done it twice this year funnily enough."}
+{"text":"Me too! OPs whore of a mother really gets around I guess."}
+{"text":"All our caves are flooded but they’re pretty fun to dive in. Florida is great for aquatic spelunking"}
+{"text":"I snorkled this exact one - devil's den - shit was cash"}
+{"text":"crowded af rocks falling on people's heads higher death rate than Denali I'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience."}
+{"text":"i wish I was at k2 instead Wouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?"}
+{"text":"can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it"}
+{"text":"me in the back"}
+{"text":"That was helicoptered in for a photoshoot."}
+{"text":"Your gay urges reveal themselves"}
+{"text":"Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general going What's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?"}
+{"text":"Same here. My WW denim jeans arrived over Christmas. I got them tailored and have worn them every frickin day. Love em. Also bought my first John Smedley for lounge wear and it's some of the best merino I've ever felt. Bit of a wool addict now."}
+{"text":"gimme"}
+{"text":"thatsniceifeelhappyforyou.jpg Mr. Money Bags over here."}
+{"text":"hellyeah fellow weatherwoollie here just got my innes ranch lynx anorak last week, it's so soft it feels like fleece should be getting another pair of jeans when i get home from work today as well, great way to start the weekend"}
+{"text":"I'm going to ireland for a wedding in december, where should I go to buy wool clothing in belfast?"}
+{"text":"Last thread This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out. how to get started Purchase a corn cob pipe (or a cheap briar pipe) and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco from a smoke shop or online. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool. Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smoke slower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you still have trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you. smoking a pipe will give you cancer Originally the Surgeon General found that pipe and cigar smokers, following a careful study of the statistics (at a time when most adults smoked, so they had a good sample size), had insignificant death rate increases. Nowadays, tobacco is being legislated against while hard drugs are being legalized. Put two and two together. Tobacco is just another good thing under attack by the government. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"So I bought a new Peterson from smokingpipes a while back. The hole that goes into the bowl is completely off-center in the mortis and doesn't line up with the hole in the tenon at all (if I'm using these terms correctly), to the point it's impossible to run a pipe cleaner through it without removing the stem. None of my other pipes are like that and I'm starting to wonder if it's a manufacturing error or something. Worth bitching to smokingpipes about? It actually smokes really well, it's just a bit annoying not being able to get a pipe cleaner through it when it starts to gurgle."}
+{"text":"Peterson might be the most popular brand but according to AI it has the highest percentage of bad reviews. The quality isn't what it once was, they probably hire immigrants."}
+{"text":"the air passage should always be centered to the bowl (unless its an oddball pipe, which is very rare) its probably a manufacturing defect, a common one with pipes are you able to post a picture?"}
+{"text":"wait, i just realized you said it's impossible to run a pipe cleaner through it without removing the stem do you not understand what a peterson dry system is? its perfectly fine to remove the stem at any time as long as it has an army tenon you're not talking about a manufacturing defect, are you?"}
+{"text":"This one might be the endgame."}
+{"text":"Let's help each other pick a suitable bag. litres body size/build what does it need to have budget range short list Remember, the more effort you put into your post, the better responses you will get."}
+{"text":"this looks like a rip off from ortovox' backpacks maybe it's just me, but i wouldnt spend just 40 bucks on a backpack. i'd rather buy fewer products, with better build quality and design, low environmental impact, that aren't produced by literal children, so i can enjoy said product for many years to come instead of accumulating even more garbage probably better to ask in the fishing general thread. there are quite a few brands that are specialised in fishing backpacks and equipment, but i don't know them. i just know that chestpacks are pretty popular with fishers."}
+{"text":"litres 30-50 body size/build Tall and skinny what does it need to have Well it can’t have a hip belt. I have an ALICE rig for my water and a lot of my gear, but need something for my woobie in its stuff sack and also my 1 person tent. Don’t need something tactical looking. budget range $100 at most Something that looks like  would be good"}
+{"text":"what capacity and weight of the backpack itself should I look at for weekend trips? body tall and fat, between XL and XXL euro sizing what does it need to have I guess I want to be able to strap the tent to the bottom if I ever need to pack it in the rain budget 300e I was using 28l pack and strapping shit to it. it was terrible."}
+{"text":"I’m a fat fuck (125kg), and use an Osprey Atmos 65 liter with the 5l brain bag. It just works, and the hip belt Can easily fit around my gut. You can’t strap anything under the bag, but depending on the size of your tent, it should fit in the front pocket. At least my 2p tent does."}
+{"text":"KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!"}
+{"text":"skis can last for 30+ years sure they can last. but a lot has changed in 30yrs and the skiis of today are vastly different than those of 30 yrs ago in terms of design and function."}
+{"text":"how skinny are the skis you've been downhilling on? If I had my druthers I'd pay ot take my nordic stuff down greens for a day to build skills, which is what the old telemark etc. books all say to do, but IRL people always tend to see this as comically suicidal (and yet when I was learning locked-heel alpine I could go up and eat shit 100,000 times and nobody batted an eye..?)"}
+{"text":"Anybody ever skied Hokkaido (Japan)? I keep on hearing how it's a bucket list experience, but at the same time I'm seeing stuff about how the mountains aren't very steep"}
+{"text":"I'll be there in two weeks, I'll let you know how it goes. Going to Niseko United, Rusutsu, Kiroro and Teine."}
+{"text":"I've been to Niseko in the winter but sadly didn't get to ski, I was only in Hokkaido for a few days and it was some kind of holiday where the resorts were closed. Seemed like it'd be pretty great though, the snow was some of the most insane powder I've ever seen, I stuck my arm in a snowbank and it was like cold air."}
+{"text":"What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?"}
+{"text":"Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your \"hikes in the woods\" Is there something you want to tell us?"}
+{"text":"dont know if it's the thinnest, but i really like my pig fdt gloves."}
+{"text":"Now I really want to try this I wonder if you could make clothing made out of multiple alternating layers of regular material and the mesh"}
+{"text":"Well now it's too warm again, I just used two-layer gloves, wool outside and some idk what fabric inside (they were 4 bux lol). I have lifting gloves, the top is a fine mesh with a wider mesh on top. If the mesh stuff works, this would only need another layer to trap the air (and cover the whole hand). Maybe I should get a sewing machine instead"}
+{"text":"Nitrile works great when you're handling supplies or trying to adjust the snow removal equipment and you have to keep your hands from getting wet because your actual mitts are soaked"}
+{"text":"Are barefoot shoes really that goated? Im buying new shoes soon, and i just wanna know if its truly the way to go. Especially considering that there arent many barefoot hiking shoes, that are somewhat waterproof."}
+{"text":"I find I get a similar use wearing cheap aquasocks, they're better than flip flops for allowing foot movement and sensitivity, but not as secure as lace up shoes especially on downhills. On heavily travelled trails they're fine. I actually found a pair at fucking walmart that is halfway decent and has a wide toebox so they look a bit like clown shoes, but they're comfy af, worst case scenario they make good camp shoes that you can river cross with."}
+{"text":"I recommend some nip socks. They’re called Tabi or something and it’s nice to keep your feet warm in winter but still slip your flops on."}
+{"text":"No. Literal marketing gimick, and you probably fell for it. All the cons of being barefoot, with none of the pros of shoes for foot protection. Your toes get more freedom, but that's it."}
+{"text":"I bought a couple of toe spacers on Temu and it fixed my knee issues overnight, literally. Started hiking in Altra Lone Peaks, which has zero drop and a wide toebox, but a thick sole. It took a couple of months, but my plantar fasciitis, which I've struggled with for years, is almost gone. True barefoot shoes, fully flexible with no soles, are good for short hikes, but not long hikes, or city walks, or jobs where you stand on tiles or concrete for long periods. Your feet need some protection, even if it's \"unnatural\". But absolutely get shoes with a wide toebox and zero drop, you'll feel the difference immediately and you'll never be able to go back."}
+{"text":"i'm going to co-sign this anon. zero drop boots fixed some issues i was starting to develop in my knees with a 30 lb pack. it hurts your achilles and calves like a motherfucker but that's because all those muscles are weak as fuck from shitty standard shoes. don't immediately throw on 30+ lbs with zero drop. train light and work up."}
+{"text":"Are radiator or those big oil jugs good for storing gasoline temporarily for a day or two if you had to fill one up? I hear gasoline will soften and eat up certain plastic bottles. Who makes big bottles with a big cap opening to put a gasoline station fuel nozzle in it?"}
+{"text":"It's no sparks. It's venting and pressure in a hot environment."}
+{"text":"Asians are smart"}
+{"text":"Depends on how much you're needing to store, but you really should just use purpose-made containers. They're cheap and significantly better than anything makeshift."}
+{"text":"Someone post the video of the chic pumping gas into a grocery bag."}
+{"text":"Protip: The cuck spout law only applies to motor vehicles (i.e. legally road cars). Marine applications are exempt and you can get normal gas cans at your local boat shop. But in reality you should be running race cans anyways."}
+{"text":"You did visit Patagonia before some tourist decided to burn it down, right?"}
+{"text":"I so don't give a shit I'm going to keep posting about it insistently to prove how much I don't care about it There is that mental disorder of yours showing again. They eat through whole forests This is not true at any level. They are limited to riparian areas that they select for very specific conditions. They do crop rotations so not to deplete forests and they usually limit the size of the trees they eat. The trees they focus on are willow and other riparian deciduous trees--ALL riparian deciduous trees are aggressive and actually do better because of beaver prune backs. The only people that hate loggers are land developers and loggers The locals are poor retards that take the money the loggers giver them and the land developers give them and parrot what the people giving them money say. They're just like the american retards crying about beavers because the beavers force humans to actually think about the watershed and where they build on the watershed and humans are short sighted retards that LOVE building on the most retarded parts of the watershed. Beavers build riparian habitat and increase watershed retention. This is a NET benefit to the local forest. This will always be a net benefit to every forest on fucking earth. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"Went when I was a kid but dont remember much. Aside from the megasloth caves any good /out/ings recs?"}
+{"text":"Alright, you honestly seem to know what you're talking about so I'll trust you. I was just repeating what I'd heard from the locals during the time I lived there, but yeah, people tend to have a shallow understanding of things."}
+{"text":"I'm just irritated by your irrational believe into some banker bogeyman. I thought I could console you but you seem too far gone. Keep living in fear."}
+{"text":"The locals are poor retards that take the money the loggers giver them and Wow wow wow careful there my friend. Everthing you said is 100% right and I'm fully agree with you, but if you phrase it like that I'm afraid its just gonna make the locals want to oppose you and dismiss your valid ecological concerns as \"hwite colonizers telling us what to do with our own land\""}
+{"text":"Is it possible to hike in North Korea? It's mountain ranges are basically prime backpacking territory and peaceful solitude."}
+{"text":"Yes, the fat pig desperately needs dollerinos. Hence they are rebranding themselves as a tpurist destination. It works easy for the chinese and is already popular there. After all they have one thing: Untouched nature. Because they have nothing to touch it with. Qesterners can also go and they will go to great lengths to satisfy your particular wishes. But you will always have a guide with you and you will have to go on the official tour, see the capital, monuments, museums and stuff."}
+{"text":"Plenty of pristine nature on the Chinese side. Tigers and wild ginseng and shit. I don't think movement is completely unrestricted up there, but at least you won't get Warmbier'd."}
+{"text":"Sorry but that situation wouldn't happen to me cause i'm not a thief. I also have no fear of my hands being cut off in saudi arabia because once again, I am not a thief."}
+{"text":"I hiked mt paektu when I last visited. There are mountain trails fucking everywhere and everyone loves to do the kim il sung pilgrimage too Not sure if they've lifted the covid travel restrictions yet though. I went back pre 2020"}
+{"text":"Do you swim in winter? the ocean doesnt freeze here but gets down to around 7 degrees in january/february at its lowest. today it was 9 and pretty comfy. i go multiple times a week and it has really helped me build up my cold tolerance for all /out/ activities. not to mention strengthening my immune system and easing arthritic and tendonitic pains."}
+{"text":"they're 14yo boys :3"}
+{"text":"We are tricked by models in ads. 98 percent of people are plain looking."}
+{"text":"t. virgin"}
+{"text":"flat is justice"}
+{"text":"The only thing you've proven is that you're a gormless subhuman who would likely believe his own head didn't exist if enough of your fellow Redditors updooted that opinion. Now go back and kys, in any order that suits."}
+{"text":"It's time to return to mother nature! Anything artificial shouldn't be brought or crafted!"}
+{"text":"naw, jews know how numbers work."}
+{"text":"What about manure? Will nature take care of it without needing much help from you?"}
+{"text":"swear anti-civ is psyop for people questioning industry"}
+{"text":"aunt tedina was literally the product of intelligence agency research and development, everything he did was what he was made for by them, including inspiring new retards."}
+{"text":"You can always do it near a tree. It will help fertilize it, meaning more potential resources."}
+{"text":"Hey anons, I recently got a job where I need to carry some personal stuff in a bag. I expect it to go in and out of boats and aircraft. Ideally also carry-on dimensions for typical airlines. It'll be sitting indoors for the most part, but if I'm unlucky it'll sit out in the rain or get dropped in a puddle. I've found a bag that meets my requirements for the most part, a North Face duffel, but I was wondering if any anons have advice on what I should get. I'd like to get one that looks a little more unique and high-vis too. Is a proper drybag worth it? picrel is just \"water resistant\""}
+{"text":"What don't you like about TNF duffel you posted in your op? They are pretty much perfect for your needs."}
+{"text":"My main concern is waterproofing. I don't need the bag to withstand being immersed like a proper drybag, but I'd like for it to be made out of the same water-repellent stuff. Also, my thinking is that if a bag is waterproof, it'll be easier to clean when it gets dropped in mud or something. I looked into some options today and I found that the \"Base Camp\" bag is a different product from the \"Base Camp Voyager\" bag (OP pic). The \"Base Camp\" TNF bag seems to fit the bill, but it's slightly too big to be a carry-on due to it being cylindrical. While I'm sure it'd probably be fine, I wish they'd make them in the shape of the \"voyager\" Maybe I'll get the XS"}
+{"text":"Have you looked at the Osprey Transporter 40L Waterproof Duffel?"}
+{"text":"the \"Base Camp Voyager\" bag (OP pic). Ah, didn't notice that. Thought it was one of the basecamp ones. I have a medium one and it's my favourite travel bag. I wouldn't worry too much about the cylinder shape and carry-on restrictions, as long as you don't stuff the bag full and it has some squishiness, they will let you on."}
+{"text":"The lazy photoshopped preview images don't really inspire confidence. I'm also not a big fan of TPU over something like PVC due to the lower chemical resistance. Otherwise, looks like a great option. I'll definitely consider it. Are you able to bring the medium as a carry on? Seems like that would be explicitly over the limit, whereas the small is plausible. I guess in practice, your bag just has to be smaller than the McMutts and Chinese who are hauling mountains of shit into the cabin, kind of like how cabin crew will generally never stop you from taking a small carry-on with you during emergency evacuations. On a related note, reminder to take important items (documents, phone, wallet, etc.) with you when evacuating a plane in an emergency because you're never seeing your belongings ever again. Even if it's a nothingburger and your luggage isn't damaged or anything, they'll usually chuck it all in a dumpster or auction it as lost luggage (also depends on the airline)."}
+{"text":"/out/ with dog"}
+{"text":"I don't know Oregon hasn't really ever felt bad. But I live on the opposite side from Portland. The only insane people are the Mexicans but the /out/ is great in southern Oregon"}
+{"text":"Kind of an insane take to think you aren't spreading the same invasive species as the dog is. You do go outside don't you?"}
+{"text":"Based dogs"}
+{"text":"My dog is not covered in seeds you fucking retard lmao you have clearly never owned a dog"}
+{"text":"Dear Hunters: I want to buy an air gun or rifle that can be used to kill pigeons or rats. My main issue is that i live in a condo, so noise is not an option. The place is not infested so a few pellets will be used. The distance is less than 40 yards. What should i get for under $400?"}
+{"text":".22 lr with suppressor, or a PCP airgun, depending on where you are in the world. Both are very quiet when suppressed, and reasonably quiet unsuppressed."}
+{"text":"you just want to kill shit for fun. stop and think that humans are the real \"pest.\" Someone will eventually see you shooting them in the condo and you will be labled the neighborhood sadist, end up on the news, and a felon for shooting near a dwelling. How about you instead become the neighborhood rat king and feed them until they trust you. Imagine the level of respect and awe you will gain by having an army of rats at your command."}
+{"text":"I used to live in a small seaside town and seagulls were a constant nuisance. I made a sniper nest with picrel, so that i could get accurate shots from 35-40 yards away. There was a road near my house with lampposts reaching the height of my window(3rd floor). I focused and calibrated my 21 joule air rifle with hollow point hunting pellets to that lamppost. As soon as a gull sat down on it i fired straight into the chest. BLAM it fell down on the ground and flapped around for a bit. Sometimes i hit them in the head with blood spraying and that distinct \"pop\" sound. That was the most powerful rifle i could get for what little money i had and the optics that came with it were 32x4. So 35 yards with a 21 joule will take down a seagull if hunting ammo is used. Anything like 40-50 yards would need 25J+."}
+{"text":"Forgot to mention - it's a crosman remington 777sb. Worked like a charm(2000+ shots taken)"}
+{"text":"Can you help me pick retired army gear for hunting, /out/? Reason is that I tried looking for hunting clothes and they were seemingly expensive and really shitty, mostly made from >80% plastics. I remember back when I was young and would buy them for cross country hacking, uniforms were decent almost all cotton or polyester with cotton lining in the least and not too pricey. Other than that ripstop weave, good pocket size and distribution amongst other things. Even the buttons/zips were huge which would be a huge boon with gloved fingers. So I'm wondering if anyone happens to know off-hand which winter gear is semi-effective camouflage that isn't in current use?"}
+{"text":"sad gay posts made by men who chug cum. its not larping if you are hunting. If you are dressing like a hunter and not hunting you are indeed a massive homosexual."}
+{"text":"Having a hard time tracking what it is you’re looking for. Are you looking for sources of milsurp or are you looking for milsurp like stuff/replicas? As far as winter camp for hunting, unless you’re hunting birds, camo really isn’t that important as long as you’re not wearing bright colors. That said, j just wear a white anorak wind breaker over my actually insulating layers."}
+{"text":"Not larp, because 90% of hunting trousers are fucking garbage these days. They break down after a year or less and make insane noise. Went for wool but the durability is nothing impressive."}
+{"text":"you might get shot wearing this, but comfort is unmatched around 160$ of rabbit-fur clothes incredibly lightweight, a very comfortable warmth, almost like you're covered in a the feeling of a cat sitting on your lap"}
+{"text":"it consists of these items; collar/shawl poncho sleeveless jacket a series of rabbitskin gloves DIYed into sleeves the sleeves and sleeveless jacket aren't attached, so you end up with free armpits which airs out the whole outfit when moving, but keeps it warm and air-tight when not moving"}
+{"text":"/out/ give me recs on leather boots that are stylish yet practical. Preferably waterproof. Been thinking about the danner light 2, but I wanna know whats out there."}
+{"text":"it's best to go to your local outdoors shop and talk to an expert. different use cases may require different kinds of boots. but most importantly, the shoe needs to properly fit so you don't get blisters or injuries after walking in them the whole day. not all outdoor shops have staff with expertise, but if they do, they are well worth it even if the shoes end up being a bit more expensive than you originally planned. if you are looking for stylish shoes, just look for gorpcore shit, so you can wear your fancy outdoor gear in the city."}
+{"text":"where do you live? If europe get a M77 from a european manufacturer."}
+{"text":"You need several pairs of footwear for different seasons and conditions"}
+{"text":"Why is half an acre the absolute minimum land area needed to be self sufficient?"}
+{"text":"If I wouldnt have seen these in person i would claim this is an AI pic. There's actually a feral flock in Florida. Ive thought about releasing a breeding group on my property but thats sone expensive coyote snacks."}
+{"text":"If anybody remembers my blue Ayam Cemani mix from quite awhile back, here she is today."}
+{"text":"I'm not that guy, but I understand the post and it's nonsense. Lets break down your tard logic: \"I could live off ~$24 of rice a month\" \"You spend $20 a month at the store\" Therefore \"You don't live off food you grow\" That doesn't follow at all. And I don't even need to explain why, because you already know it. (which is why you kept giving yourself outs like \"maybe it's cheese\") You're just too arrogant to admit you're wrong, a retard, and a jackass."}
+{"text":"If hes lucky he got 50 pounds of meat from that deer. A decent steak is 12oz. Hamburger helper takes a pound. I burn through 10 pounds just making a batch of jerky that I snack on and is gone in less than a week (I like jerky). You can get a couple meals from a chicken. The fastest growing hybrids are ready for butchering in about 6 weeks. I guarantee hes buying more than rice and cheese. Sustenance farming is a massive amount of work. Last year I did some green beans in about a 10'x40' plot. One particular day at the peak of harvest it took me 14 hours to pick, snap and can the days harvest. I think that was about 3 dozen quarts (got about 400 quarts total). Growing your own food is awesome. They taste better and are healthier. But its only supplemental unless your literally a peasant farmers that does nothing else with your day."}
+{"text":"I have a 1/2 acre garden and I grow a couple different types of berry, some native fruit trees, tomatoes, chillies, all kinds of herbs, and have some bok choy going. I definitely could grow a lot more but most of my garden is lawn and a trampoline for the kids."}
+{"text":"Post your favorite /out/ patches. Also, how do you display any patches you don't have on a pack? I tried doing a board but I think I need more patches because it feels empty."}
+{"text":"information for zoomers, you are allowed to get mad about things you care about. with real people, you can see the hate and love from their eyes."}
+{"text":"you have to go back"}
+{"text":"did you make those, good job to whoever did. I just got a larper Civilian Conservation Corps patch"}
+{"text":"nah some other anon was selling them. they're classic /out/ memes which he had stitched up and was selling for awhile. the river shitter picture I drew so he was a good sport and sent me the patches for free, on account of it being my artwork I guess"}
+{"text":"I also have that one on the bottom. It's so cute"}
+{"text":"did you know that the colorado river doesn't reach the ocean anymore, and hasn't consistently since the 60s it all gets sucked up for irrigation and municipal water on arizona and mexico there's just a dry delta in baja california where it once was a similar fate has actually befallen a bunch of rivers in the southwest"}
+{"text":"A state wildlife sanctuary borders my western property line. A cattle ranch is down the road. I drive past the cattle ranch multiple times a week. I honestly do not think cattle ranching is inefficient. The cows are loose on hundreds of acres eating grass. The grass grows with the naturally occurring sun and rain. Once or twice a year the rancher takes fat mature cattle to market and buys small yearlings. I am sure he has to give the cows antibiotics. The ranchers I pass at the local feed & seed do not seem stressed out to me. They do not seem to think they are caught up in some horribly inefficient machine."}
+{"text":"Your two dimensional comprehension of the post you're replying too is truly remarkable. You're very retarded. Electricity is orders of magnitude easier to distribute than water and most megacities on earth are literally ON rivers you idiot."}
+{"text":"Man you ARE retarded. unless your in literally india you don't pump water directly from rivers you dam and make reservoirs."}
+{"text":"NO YOU wow, I was thinking you had 100 IQ but 80 is more accurate. Tell me more about some nonsensical tangent that has nothing to do with what I said while highlighting your own intellectual short comings. Re read what I posted and try again. I can't tell if you're ESL or simply incapable of coherent thoughts."}
+{"text":"if you're not a mentally-crippled infinity immigrants cultist you're far right!"}
+{"text":"Just got this from an estate sale for a few bucks. I can’t seem to find it anywhere online. The markings say “camp trails night” another word after night but I can’t remember"}
+{"text":"that my friend is aliexpress special 9000. your bag sucks and you should feel bad"}
+{"text":"lame bag but ok for a beginner especially if you got it for a few dollars"}
+{"text":"I didn't know Camp Trails made an internal frame bag. I thought they went out of business back in the external frame days."}
+{"text":"Nice boots Woody."}
+{"text":"What is the most hardcore hobby and why is it cave diving?"}
+{"text":"That being said simply operating your car on the highway is statistically more dangerous than just about anything you can do For the same reason cows are more dangerous than sharks. So which one do you chose to be next to?"}
+{"text":"This is an only slightly exaggerated account of what it's like to get to the Hall of Faces in Hellhole Cave."}
+{"text":"Literally what the fuck is in there"}
+{"text":"Wingsuit base jumping: Soar like an eagle, amazing views, and if you must splatter across a mountainside so be it Cave diving: Slowly swim your way into a miserable, lightless, watery rectum and just fucking die"}
+{"text":"I mean the goal is to be able to swim back out"}
+{"text":"Who makes decent snow shoes for bold explorers?"}
+{"text":"They have weight ratings. People really need to weigh their gear (and themselves) before figuring out which snow-shoes to get. I've never heard of a pin breaking, or the metal housing, but I have heard of bindings failing."}
+{"text":"I found a pair of \"used\" brand-new Flex VRT online for cheap. I already love the BOA bindings. I'll be testing them on a moderate mountain tour, in - if the forecasts are correct - fresh snow. Come to think of it, I bet the avalanche warning level will be quite high."}
+{"text":"I got TSL Camos and I can't tell if they suck or not because they're the only snowshoe I use. Last outing they were collapsing several inches with every step and I punched through. Is it even possible to tell if getting Lightning Accents would help?"}
+{"text":"I think the weight rating is more a matter of the amount of provided float, unless you're drastically over the rated weight. I know that out here in the northeast we don't really have 5+ feet of powder so float is less important than traction for us, at least for more \"technical\" hiking snowshoes. I could be completely wrong on the weight ratings though. Several inches is fine, you aren't going to float on the very surface without pretty large shoes especially with a heavier bag on."}
+{"text":"Float and weight rating are different things. Weight rating is the design threshold before mechanical failure probability skyrockets. Float is directly related to the type of snow you're hiking through. MSR have additional extenders you can add to their shoes that will increase the \"float\" but will not increase the \"weight rating.\" I live in the west so the snow is heavy and wet. I never use the floats. I can also, easily, go over the shoe's wight ratings but still be able to \"stay on top of\" the snow."}
+{"text":"drives his truck to a pre-built camp site to \"survive\" there Very cool content. Don't trust any outdoor youtube who doesn't show himself actually hiking to an otherwise unreachable spot."}
+{"text":"We know this already. 99% of out-tubers do this shit. It has been common practice since Discovery Channel."}
+{"text":"90% of innawoods is a <30 minutes from their truck."}
+{"text":"oh no! there is content farmer slop in my pure content farmer slop! how could this have happened?!11"}
+{"text":"i like greg because he screws up all the time and often barely sticks to the challenge gimmick. he just likes sleeping in the woods"}
+{"text":"I like Greg because of the fucking saw he took to Alone."}
+{"text":"Post your /out/ edc kit. Just pretend the sleeping bag is a hammock and this is mine"}
+{"text":"I live in a community disconnected from the road system and it takes the police 2+ hours to get here if they decide to show up. I never leave home without my bugout bag and some degree of firepower, in the event any of the tweakers decide to start tweaking at me."}
+{"text":"the more gear you have the more you'll get tired and became a target so many prep tards that will die in apocalipse and camping scenario so many bullshit itens"}
+{"text":"I can't go anywhere without my 400 AD Roman Dodecahedron. Me and all my homies carry a Roman Dodecahedron on us in case we need to let that thing talk."}
+{"text":"Dude got so assblasted he retorted to the forced and double capitalized fake laugh. Wow."}
+{"text":"Okay but youre not actually going out in jeans and converse, are you?"}
+{"text":"Discuss /out/tubers here."}
+{"text":"i recommend IohanGueorguiev, very comfy videos showing his bike trips through alaska and south america. he is a very simple, honest and good person and luckily he doesn't post anymore, so he didn't turn into a content creator like many others"}
+{"text":"Sounds comfy. Thanks anon."}
+{"text":"Anyone know who that old guy who was living out in the woods in Alaska was? All I remember is he lived in a tent during the winter and made a video where he made \"cowboy coffee\" by just pouring his grounds into a pot he had boiling over a fire."}
+{"text":"itchy boots"}
+{"text":"Hello /out/ serious (though retarded) thread. I won't find rest until I've hunted, killed, skinned, cut up and put in glass jars a 120+ pounds wild boar. Problem is, my country's admin is retarded (even moreso than I) and I still don't have my hunting license, so no heavy firepower for me. Now, how do I prepare physically and mentally to be up to the task ? I haven't found any serious advice and my dad, who's a hunter, told me that was a retarded idea. I'm sure there has to be a way though, please help."}
+{"text":"What are you on about bruh ?"}
+{"text":"Shovel, sack of apples, netting, rope, sharpened sticks, camo stand, bow or crossbow, boar pike/spear, big boy bowie, antistab leggins, armguards and belly corset, patience. You do the math."}
+{"text":"I like the way you think. Do you have anything else to say ?"}
+{"text":"Listen to your dad he is way smarter than you and he has actual experience, plus he's a real man unlike you."}
+{"text":"amerimutt education Who cares white people do"}
+{"text":"can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)"}
+{"text":"high effort post, thanks"}
+{"text":"For rubber boots you have a few materials 1) PVC - Cheapest and usually not worth it. Tends to crack. 2) Polyurethane - Second most common. Has the problems I mentioned earlier in the thread with hydrolysis. Water gets trapped in the foam pores and with disuse (using pushes water out) it breaks down the foam bond. A lot of people use them during rainy weather (a few times a year) then don't wear them for 6-9 months and they break down the next season for this reason. Well used polyurethane can go 10 years. However you also have manufacturers keeping items in storage for prolonged periods so can be a crapshoot. This option usually is the best IMO for price, durability, availability. --Not as often used materials below-- 3) You may not believe but most 'rubber' boots are not rubber anymore. Real rubber has a few issues. Exposure to oil/urine and other is hard on it. It's also $$$ and heavy. The pro of rubber is under the right conditions its very long lasting and can be repaired. Last I counted there was like 4 companies left making real rubber boots, and all were based in Europe. 4) EVA. This one's my favorite. EVA is the material in crocs. Unlike the materials above, EVA foam is not impacted by external temperatures as much as the other options. Meaning if it's cold outside doesn't mean the material will radiate that to your foot nearly as much. This is why crocs have the cut outs for breathability. EVA is very cheap. It has a few issues. If you leave it in your car on a hot sunny day it can shrink the material. Crocs don't shrink on foot so anything your foot can handle should be fine for the material though. EVA also starts to lose its comfiness after about 500 miles. The reason I don't recommend it as much as PU is because it's hard to find good EVA boot models. I will list this below moreso but the better EVA models are made in Poland and Russia."}
+{"text":"Insulation Kind of like my earlier post, you need insulation, and for these boots for another reason. None of the above materials breathe. So if your foot is warm, it will sweat, and there is not enough material to wick that sweat so even if it's EVA when your foot is wet it will start to become cold very fast. So while you could get EVA croc boots or Tingley is the chinese ones sold in the US, they will only be good for a short duration. The poland/russian eva boots come with liners and are sized accordingly to fit your foot with the liner so you don't have to play the guessing game as much for fit. Obviously, getting products from Russia right now is a PITA unless you have access to Wild Berries or the Chinese Amazon, Aliexpress. The Polish ones are Camminare and Lemigo. In Canada they sell Lemigo at Bobcaygeon British Shop. The Russian ones are Torvi and Nordman. There used to be a fish shop in the US that sold Nordman but I believe it went out of business. While I heard these are only like $40 USD in Russia, you're probably looking at closer to $100+ for USA with shipping. I bought my last ones from an Eastern European country like Estonia or something. The problem i've found with EVA boots too is they're a softer foam than PU and since the industry is still young for them, the shaping of them isn't the most ergonomic. I've also found they sometimes like to put Rubber inserts/soles on these. The more complexity you add to a cheap design increases the rate of failure. I like the inserts more than the full outsole if you go with one over nothing (just EVA)"}
+{"text":"I HATE my job, I HATE normies. How tf can I just drop out of society and get neetbux. I have a small farm and a bitch to leach off of but I have no idea how to welfare meme. Do I just tell the doctor im autistic and get disability?!?!?!? I make to much for food stamps and I just don't pay my medical bills for any ER visit ext... I have a kid on the way so im scared to drop out without knowing what to do.... BTW I don't give a fuck what anyone around me thinks.... help... living out my RV BTW the pic is from my homestead back in January"}
+{"text":"Obviously you need to learn what plants are edible. You need to build a permanent structure that will not be found. Earth bags are very good for this as you can carry them in bulk and then fill them once you find a nice deep hidden spot with small-medium sized river nearby. Do not set up too closely to water or you will be found. You want to be at minumum 2km (2 mile) away from any tracks and at least 200m (250yard) away from the water. It is easier than you think with the earth bag construction. You will want a gillnet, illegal to use in most places but it means you have a passive source of fish. You will want a fishing rod too I advise telescopic, decent reel, with spinners, wiglers and so on. Fish that are too big for the gillnet will be stuck in the area in front of it and you catch those yourself. You will want to get some conibear traps, 110, 160, 220, and set up a trap line, these are serious pieces of gear that are designed to kill on impact if you fuck it up and it snaps it breaks whatever part of your body is in there. Of course you need to study your local animals, what actually is there, what fish are in that water source. You are also going to want a small solar set up primary for charging battery banks that then charge your lights, phone and so on. Fill your phone with guides on your area. A short-list for if you are serious learn the edible plants, some tree seeds are edible and high protein and high yield learn your animals, what ground animals, what fish find your location, do some reading on natural lines of drift learn the climate, if it gets very cold do not build in a depression where cold air will sit get bags, conibears, gillnet, fishing kit learn how to process animals, worst case download videos onto your phone solar can be a hiking solar set up to begin with, as you grow you may want a pure dc 200w panel"}
+{"text":"this thread bussed"}
+{"text":"but as a defective, You ARE part of the globohomo."}
+{"text":"Good luck getting the capital to start an /out/ business with low profit margins. Just stick to hiking and fishing. Trying to turn /out/ into a business is a recipe for failure."}
+{"text":"it's a small investment with returns that are mostly passive (park, watching vegetables and animals grow) so it's like a neetbux or he could be proactive and make a innawoods coworkspace or makerspace for normies and larpers fuck i should do this"}
+{"text":"the greatest /out/ youtuber is back. did we miss him?"}
+{"text":"I mean eating is the only relatable part of what hes doing so obviously you gotta make that a lot of the video for normies to care. He makes videos for people who have never left a trail you could push a wheelchair down."}
+{"text":"You need 2-3k calories. Of course you're gonna spend a ton of time cooking. And food suplies are gonna last you only so long before you'll have to start finding food outdoors."}
+{"text":"kek this dude pure comedy. he is the definition of every REI city boyscout meme in one. has to be faked. constantly doing retard tier things and beyond obvious he just throws richfag money at every problem he creates. will never forget him not knowing what a snow mobile is, called them like snowbikes or some sht lmao kekwwww. those mini cabins he built with no vents but uses gas space heater lulz. watching his kids barrel flag him everytime they go hunting and he just oblivious. when his truck was frozen so he used a blowtorch to thaw some ice but melted his transmission line kekw. the many massive illegal bonfires he starts in random woods lmao. the list is actually endless. did like learning his leaf science about frozen LCD tvs haha squirrel found a nut with that one."}
+{"text":"illegal Lol faggot"}
+{"text":"Where are my /divers/ at?"}
+{"text":"Probably underwater anon"}
+{"text":"took a dive into your moms pussy last time. got lost and now im trying to find my way out. running out of oxygen, might now make it......."}
+{"text":"oxygen Non-diver spotted"}
+{"text":"ITT guys who made it. Men who didn't die of exposure or hunger, men who survived"}
+{"text":"That we are pathetic losers."}
+{"text":"Family trees doesnt go one straight line. If youre an alone child only your parents failed, but your, uncles, aunts, cousins kept the tree going"}
+{"text":"To be honest... yes."}
+{"text":"Ernest Shackleton & the crew of the Endurance Decide to traverse the Antarctic by sea WWI starts, go anyway ship gets stuck in ice wait it out, ice crushes ship endure months on the ice sail 3 lifeboats to an uninhabited island realise you need to sail another 800 miles through icy, stormy waters to reach a whaling station manage it in 16 days realize you fucked up and have to choose between a 6 mile & 26 mile trek through uncharted mountains choose the 26 mile, not realising the closer one is actually inhabited all year round now trek up and down a 3'000 foot mountain and reach the whaling station in 1 day EVERYONE SURVIVES"}
+{"text":"Imagine thinking he's a real person."}
+{"text":"I have been hiking at a cool spot for the past few months because it has lots of animals. I usually see javalina, coyote, coatis, and like 20 different species of birds. Unfortunately yesterday I ran into a mountain lion on the trail. I thought it was a coati going up a tree but it was actually a damn lion. I looked it up and the area is apparently filled with them. Is bear spray enough to deter them or should I start bringing a gun instead?"}
+{"text":"I'm not defending anything you raging homosexual. I'd smear every last one of those scum off the Earth with the push of a button if you gave me the chance. What I AM saying is if you're in a state of heightened paranoia about them just because you're going /out/ in the desert you need to stop role-playing on 4chan and actually GO /out/."}
+{"text":"1000 women go missing every year due to horny Mexicans and that's just part of the plan 1 woman dies of a cougar attack in the last 25 years and everyone loses their minds!"}
+{"text":"I just fucking saw one so they aren't invisible stealth masters killers like you are all saying You said you’ve seen one in an area that is supposedly full of them There are literally like 20 videos of people being cornered or charged, not ambushed Those are defensive attacks like a mother with cubs which is never going to happen to you. Everyone has said they don’t hunt people"}
+{"text":"80lbs please tell you don't think 80lbs of a big cat = 80lbs human"}
+{"text":"Being a male human making noise will be enough to deter them."}
+{"text":"Anyone from /out/ tell me if the Kantamus 60L is worth it? Looking for an endgame backpack that will survive the apocalypse."}
+{"text":"Yes, you can add a lid and stuff another drybag on top, but it doesn't really solve the problem if you want things secure inside the bag. It's just a slight annoyance and it's designed to not stick up above your head. A couple more inches would be nice or a snow lock inside that extend above."}
+{"text":"Its great and you dont need to buy exclusive savotta aftermarket gear to make it YOUR pack"}
+{"text":"I don't really want on that's a different color, I guess. Also, it's really hard to find PALS horizontal pouches, for some reason."}
+{"text":"i spoke against savotta for many years here and apparently i was forgotten sure they are indestructible and every finnish person swears by them because of the LJK (the one who made them great and what every sc/out/ was forced to carry in the army) you dont need to buy exclusive savotta aftermarket gear to make it YOUR pack but you do need to purchase variety of molle pockets no matter the brand because their own bags are designed not to accumulate anything in their side pockets unless the bag is completely empy, hell even in your own pic you have strapped on some aftermarket pouch for that very same reason they are rugged bags but designed so that you have to get accessory pouches by default also keep in mind that the paid shill from finnish company varusteleka posts here himself regularly and promotes this shit"}
+{"text":"they are rugged bags but designed so that you have to get accessory pouches by default yeah, that always irked me with military style backpacks, and especially with savotta. their stuff looks nice, but their backpacks are super minimal in their features and having the adaptability is a sort of \"selling point\" for them, BUT they are already super expensive for what they offer and they weigh a ton, and then on top of that you have the option to buy small pouches, that for their size, are even more expensive and weigh even more, so you can have basic functionality that should be there to begin with. i bought a maxpedition backpack 10 years ago and while the idea of adding pouches to the outside was nice and may have played into why i originally bought it, i never actually ever bothered buying anything extra for the backpack. i think it makes more sense to find a backpack that already has all the features you want. i dont think i will buy a military backpack again. the maxpedition served me well, but i dont see the point anymore. other backpacks do their job just as well"}
+{"text":"What is that thing it has slike really ligyt footsteps i the snow should i run please respond fast guys"}
+{"text":"it's those dudes from the girl who loved tom gordon"}
+{"text":"That's me walking dog, just say hi, nothing to worry about"}
+{"text":"anon got et by a bar"}
+{"text":"clearly gnomes"}
+{"text":"It's just an emo christmas tree you're fine"}
+{"text":"EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ water So am I just not supposed to eat fish anymore? What's the point of even fishing anymore?"}
+{"text":"I LOVE HOW BOOMERS RAPED AND PILLAGED THE EARTH AND DESTROYED IT YEEEAAAHHHH WOOOOO"}
+{"text":"This thread, brought to you by leaded gasoline."}
+{"text":"This is why I just buy the SafeCatch salmon and sardines. I wouldnt eat fish I caught myself unelss I went to the best places this guy  mentions, or could otherwise ensure it was at least as good as the canned safecatch stuff I buy."}
+{"text":"only cowards care about \"toxic chemicals\" in their food. real Aryan Elite such as myself can consume anthrax and it would have no effect on my perfect physique. get good browns"}
+{"text":"yes goy, never procure your own food"}
+{"text":"Have you ever found a DEAD GUY"}
+{"text":"Not him but a fair bit of SAR experience, swiftwater rescue specifically. Never found anyone dead fortunately, but got plenty of free heli trips. Typically grade V, most times people were just having an epic trying to get a kayak unstuck after a swim. Pulled out one of the red bull boys boats once, behaved like it was expected of us. He’d just left it and walked out, so a couple of us went and got it for him, didn’t even get us a beer. Our heli pilot had a stash of abandoned boats and used to hook us up from time to time."}
+{"text":"Had a chick staying with us one year wanted to go do a fair difficult river with a ridiculous walk in, like thigh deep mud through dense rainforest for 4hrs. We all said no, recipe for disaster leaving town at noon, you’d only be getting on the river at sunset. So she found a couple of guys also from overseas to go with. Urged them not to. As predicted the only got on near sunset, didn’t want a night in the bush so pressed on. She drowned, flatmate scored 2 free boats, 1 slightly haunted."}
+{"text":"I only found a dead cow once. A bit up in the alps, right below a cliff, up on the other side it's pretty flat and cows grass there. It obviously fell, like half a year ago at least, past the smell and insects phase, luckily for me. all his 180+ kilos had to be lifted out of the sea by a bunch of very drunk men. Storytime, strap in. I was at a lake once, a river flows into it and the currents can be treacherous, pushing you away from the shore. Bad enough, but additionally, it's only like 1.5/5' deep out to like 30m/110', then it suddenly drops to much deeper. Nice summer day, dozens of people in the water, I'm standing at the shore, just enjoying the scenery. I notice a kid a bit out, in the middle of aforementioned (what a word) currents, he's looking like he's having trouble. I got a basic qualification for playing lifeguard some time before that and am a very good swimmer, so off went my shirt and into the water I go. Once I had dragged the little fucker bag, typo: back, to the shore, he just ran off, no thanks, but what does it matter? tldr: Potential pdf catches kid. Kid manages to escape. I believe in working through your problems and solving them one by one, but if you don't have the clarity of mind or don't see that you have the resources necessary to do that, I can see how a reprieve or an escape from them would be tempting. NTA Yeah, that's often how people get into depression. It all piles up until it's too much for them."}
+{"text":"Possibly. One time my buddy and I were walking down a trail behind a local beach and we stumbled on what looked to be a deserted campsite. The whole place was a disaster zone and there were poker chips everywhere. We were kind of looking around because we really didn't expect to see something like that there and I picked up an abandoned backpack and found a pelvis bone underneath. I had a slight BSD moment then told my buddy and we ran out of there. When we got back to the beach there was a cop there already who was yeling at some kid who was driving his ATV on the sand so we ran up to him freaking out and going: \"OH MY GOD WE FOUND A DEAD BODY YOU'VE GOT TO HELP COME ON COME ON\" but he really didn't seem like he cared that much until we told him about the poker chips. Then his eyes almost bugged out of his head and he made us show him where the camp site was. After we showed him the pelvis bone he called in a forensics team. We waited around for a bit then ran up to him and asked him if they figured anything out and he hit us with this: \"Oh, yeah. It's probably nothing. We're thinking it's a dog's pelvic bone. .......Might be a kid's, but it's a probably a dog.\" Then he left. Still wonder what all that was about."}
+{"text":"no but a guy i know found a dude who hung himself in the bush, so i found one by proxy"}
+{"text":"is Arcteryx a poser brand? what are some tr00 kvlt core dirtbagging brands?"}
+{"text":"He wants to paypiggie his way into appearing to be the cool kind of homeless person. Dirtbagging is when you are doing a leisure class hobby (like skiing, mountaineering, etc) without being wealthy by living with no other expenses. Dirtbaggers don’t use brands, they use the most durable and best condition crap they can dumpster dive, thrift, or make themselves. They do things like work in resort maintenance or as instructors to get discounted or free access to places, they sleep rude, in their car, in employee housing, or with a huge succession of bored housewives in dead marriages for their housing, eat as cheap as possible, and put in so many hours with their hobby that they cultivate and aura of unimpeachable skill at it."}
+{"text":"Tbh it's just incoherent babble."}
+{"text":"Never heard of em till i did a job in Boulder. Overpriced."}
+{"text":"Boulder is a funny place. Most of the hippies end up being millionaires"}
+{"text":"Then they aren't hippies tebelebedesu"}
+{"text":"I've Never Done That Before. Also Merry christmas."}
+{"text":"Not an argument retard."}
+{"text":"A dude saw me naked too and left afraid of me. Really make me think."}
+{"text":"Can you afford a gym membership? Why cant you sleep, just sleep its the same as any other time you have slept."}
+{"text":"Too cold. Not comfy. Gym membership is coming."}
+{"text":"anything but that piece of shit. look up minivans or literally any other SUV"}
+{"text":"I'm applying to conservation corps. I know the pay is going to shit but I'm retarded and I think it's cool to camp and work on trails all day. Anyone have experiences with /out/ jobs?"}
+{"text":"Land survey anons, how do I really get /out/ on the job? I work as a construction surveyor right now, but I don’t like building subdivisions in the suburbs all day. When I finish school I want to survey glaciers or mountains or something. No PLS yet but I’m working on it"}
+{"text":"I work as an exploration geologist for a big mining company in Canada. I've been able to travel internationally as well to some of the coolest places. I've just got back from a project in Arizona. I've travelled to places like Nahanni, remote arctic islands, parts of Alaska, the deserts of Chile, Namibia etc. It's probably the most out job ever. I get paid to stay in fly camps we set up in the mountains even."}
+{"text":"What background do you need for this? For some reason I'm always jealous of you niggers just standing by the roadside twiddling your equipment. My background was carpentry and I used to always see surveyors come onto my jobsite and I was jealous. So I went to university and studied a course in it, you can get jobs without a degree but they will only take you so far on the pay scale. A good way to get a foot in the door (ausfag here btw dunno what it is like in other countries) It should be a degree as there are a lot of things to learn, in reality background doesn't matter as long as you aren't stupid with mathematics, you can do whatever you want to do whenever you want. Land survey anons, how do I really get /out/ on the job? I work as a construction surveyor right now, but I don’t like building subdivisions in the suburbs all day. When I finish school I want to survey glaciers or mountains or something. No PLS yet but I’m working on it. I think the simplest answer is to just change company anon, I do believe it is quite rare to get a surveying job which is specifically /out/ only. I used to work a job which sent me to virgin land to obtain data for potential gas wells. This sent me truly into the in the middle of nowhere which was very neat, sometimes awful land and sometimes beautiful scenery. My current job has me doing construction and literally everything else. most surveying leads to construction of habitat unless you get a rare job surveying within the ecological field with other professions. Ironically the most /out/ I have gone with surveying is with oil/gas giant companies like anon here. Just look at the scope of work when applying and ask questions during interviews, follow the company on LinkedIn to see their work etc."}
+{"text":"meant to say destruction of habitat"}
+{"text":"I think it really depends on the company and what they specialize in. I’ve been wanting to find mainly a mainly /out/ company but they’re hard to find in the here in the south east since everything is being so built up. I do construction stuff probably 40% of the time but the rest is either commercial property update surveys or I’m inna woods."}
+{"text":"Must have /out/ tools? What are some items that you swear by? I'd like to only have to buy things once for a lifetime. Finally starting my cabin in the woods. I know I will need a lot of stuff, (chainsaws, drills, atv) and some of it I will have never heard of. Any warnings are appreciated since I really don't know what im doing. This would be in canada, ontario or alberta most likely."}
+{"text":"The author didn't get it either."}
+{"text":"Gary Larson did get it, because there was nothing to get. That was the whole bit, that the tools were never intended to actually represent actual tools. Gary said his mistake was making one of them look like a saw which caused people to try to figure out the others when in fact, he hadn't drawn them with any realistic plan."}
+{"text":"With an unlimited budget I would plop a steel barn down and get; Big boys: cnc router plasma cutter 3d printer mig/stick/tig welder planer table router band saw miter saw jigsaw table sander table grinder drill press Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"I think that hand tool mastery can be very much a craftsman category. Anyone can use a wbs not everyone can adjust and use a plane."}
+{"text":"Any good spots around Ann Arbor, MI /out/? I want to go on a weekend hike and camp but I haven't found a great trail in the area yet myself."}
+{"text":"Pinckney area is a pretty area for smaller hikes"}
+{"text":"I agree that Pinckney area has some pretty areas for smaller hikes. Perhaps I'm just not well explored despite going to university in A2 but honestly I'd go out of SE Michigan for good spots"}
+{"text":"Got kik or discord? Im not very well explored either but maybe we can brainstorm together"}
+{"text":"I'm a student at uofm right now, I have a feeling you're right there isn't anything in SE Michigan I just made a kik, name is gildono9, you can text me on there"}
+{"text":"I just made a kik Oy vey. Bring condoms and lube. And please don't litter."}
+{"text":"Today I had to abort for the first time. I underestimated the snow depth on my route and didn't bring snow shoes. About 200 m below the peak, in really steep terrain, I kept crashing through the surface of the thigh-deep snow between the rocks underneath. For one it was becoming really exhausting, cold, and I was worried I could hit one of the rocks with my shin or knee. It was a bit of a reality check. Thanks for reading my blog post."}
+{"text":"magnificent bait sir"}
+{"text":"In winter, I prefer doing peaks that I've already done at other times of the year. No pressure to summit and it's not a big deal if I stop short. And I'm already familiar with the route."}
+{"text":"t. Yeti"}
+{"text":"That happened to a couple of us in NZ once. Walking on the tops with limestone caves and sinkholes everywhere and sudden whiteout. Typically we'd follow snow poles and cairns, but couldn't see much further than the map and compass in our hands. Made shit pretty exciting. When you fall through snow and can't feel anything under your feet it's getting pretty spicy."}
+{"text":"That sounds terrifying."}
+{"text":"I am planning on going into the wilderness and never returning. Have any of you attempted something similar? I am not sure if I want a horse or a bike. I don't want to put a horse through summer mosquitos. God speed"}
+{"text":"That isnt me. I only have a spotify and youtube account"}
+{"text":"PNW? Damn, beautiful land up there. But yea high humidity and lots of rain. Your gear will be soaked a lot of the time. Just be prepared for that if you don't build some sort of semi-permanent structure. So for the elctrical equipment, you can actually buy waterproof boxes and such in the camping section of any Walmart. There's likely waterproof bags and such for other equipment as well. That's where I'd start."}
+{"text":"quit samefagging the board"}
+{"text":"Luigi speed junkie. I won. Youre utterly seething and self destructing before our very eyes, just as im about to win once and for all. Yeah. It seems to have the best of a lot of factors. Seashells everywhere. I will have to have waterproof bags and wrap stuff in tarp. Ill hopefully touch base during a drier period."}
+{"text":"If you do end up recording anything, I hope you'll show up everynow and then with your progress. Would be real neat to see."}
+{"text":"I need the Indoor companion to my Outdoor machete. Ye Ol kitchen table wants to steal my woman and I need to turn it into firewood. All I have is this OUTDOOR machete, it only cuts natural plants Outdoors. The table has been shaped by man and therefore is an Indoor object."}
+{"text":"Have you considered an axe or a hatchet?"}
+{"text":"Um ok. Have you considered simply taking the table outside then you can use the outdoor manchette on the now outdoor table? You mean seems logical to me."}
+{"text":"I'm just surprised this braindead (bait) threads still get replies by even bigger idiots."}
+{"text":"Ignore the uncultured ruffians who don't know the difference between indoor and outdoor cutlery nor do they appreciate discernment between task and elegant tools. These people would have you use a meat cleaver to butter bread. I am a fan of the Parang style Machete but an indoor version demands more refinement. An outdoor tool should be carbon as it will take persistent abuse but, paradoxically, an indoor machete needs to prioritize rust resistance and sanitation over prolonged chopping sessions. The goal of an indoor machete, for clarity, is to take apart when necessary but be easy to clean and maintain while an outdoor machete is for constant chopping and cleanliness is less a priority. Obviously these unwashed cretins don't appreciate this."}
+{"text":"A true man of knowledge and culture. Thank you so much for expounding on your vast well of knowledge. Now I do wonder though, what is this \"Village machete\"."}
+{"text":"Has anyone else here traveled around living in a backpack for a while? What about car/van life? What are your experiences and if you're still doing it what are your plans for the next year? I've been doing it for 5 years straight after my Mom passed and I had no ties left to keep me involved with society or my hometown much. Now I'm renting a large property and house, working on my hobbies and profitable skills and saving up cash for when I inevitably dip out back into the world again this spring. I'm getting a backpack set up and possibly a 4runner. I just don't know where I want to go though anymore, I've been all over the US a few times and I hate crossing the continental divide, I'm probably going to stay in the PNW for a while until something interesting draws me east, but I'm also considering biting the cost of a passport to go start traveling in other countries too."}
+{"text":"I should also add fhat the only reason i spammed nigger and threatened conservation officers is necause I was mad at jannies banning me twice a day for no reason. The fuck is their problem?"}
+{"text":"Some boards jannies are literally the equivalent of reddit mods and have been hired from reddit. Back in the day I use to be on the IIRC regularly and the mods have always been faggots, especially that dratted John Redcorn. How's bikepacking? I have a pretty heavy backpack because I lot to carry a lot of creature comforts, and I've seriously considered getting a bike instead of a car just to distribute weight better and get further faster without spending time trying to get gas and parking."}
+{"text":"Also how often do you have to do bike maintenance and how gnarly can it get?"}
+{"text":"Bikepacking and living a nomadic lifestyle is great. Im about to embark again except this time i want to go farther into the wilderness. Basically, it is tonnes of fun. Very fun with a crossbow. Bring a rod but you dont have to since poaching is easy. I like going on the unpaved paths deep in the wilderness with a single track trailer. There are different cargo racks for the front or rear axle. I actually carry almost no weight on my back except my crossbow generally just incase of shit bears. I havent killed a bear yet because i didnt know exactly what to do with the entire carcas but now that i know, im going for one.... In regards to repairing the bike. You should invest in good tires. Like thick ones. Sometimes something might happen like a flat or broken spoke, no big deal. Its just a bike. The best prevention is a well maintained bike. Only a seized crank in the middle of nowhere is an absolute disaster but you should be able to tell when your crank is going. You can feel it. Create a bike repair kit and tote it on a single track trailer behind your bike with some other stuff. Anyways wnough from me."}
+{"text":"Ohhh I've wanted to take a crossbow on the road for a while. I've been hunting using snares and getting up close to small deer with a 9mm pistol and whacking them like Tony. A bike would certainly let me do that much less encumbered. I've seen a lot of bikepackers with motorized bikes and every time I've seen them they're working on the bike and cussing a lot, so I think I'd probably just get a normal bike. Thanks for the input."}
+{"text":"Where are all the mushrooms edition?"}
+{"text":"The soil is fruitful, and abounds with cattle, which inclines the inhabitants rather to feeding than ploughing, so that near a third part of the land is left uncultivated for grazing. The climate is most temperate at all times, and the air never heavy, consequently maladies are scarcer, and less physic is used there than anywhere else. There are but few rivers; though the soil is productive, it bears no wine; but that want is supplied from abroad by the best kinds, as of Orleans, Gascon, Rhenish, and Spanish. The general drink is beer, which is prepared from barley, and is excellently well tasted, but strong, and what soon fuddles. There are many hills without one tree, or any spring, which produce a very short and tender grass, and supply plenty of food to sheep; upon these wander numerous flocks, extremely white, and whether from the temperature of the air, or goodness of the earth, bearing softer and finer fleeces than those of any other country: this is the true Golden Fleece, in which consist the chief riches of the inhabitants, great sums of money being brought into the island by merchants, chiefly for that article of trade. The dogs here are particularly good. It has mines of gold, silver, and tin (of which all manner of table utensils are made, in brightness equal to silver, and used all over Europe), of lead, and of iron, but not much of the latter. The horses are small but swift. Glasshouses are in plenty here."}
+{"text":"Recovering from an injury so did a 15km hike in the local countryside. Was meant to be a circular route but I cut it short as the only route was through a narrow field with the largest bull I've seen in my life in. Managed to get a bus home. I think I'll try the full circular once the weather improves. The clay soil in the Chilterns sticks to your boots the moment it gets wet."}
+{"text":"where in yorkshire? I'm in calderdale and am looking to do some wildcamping, last year i did a lot of motorcycle camping but that was all up in the lake district, hoping to find some local spots that i can hike to from hebden bridge, maybe 15-20km each way or so. pic rel, camp from august"}
+{"text":"I'm planning a solo trip to Kielder soon too, as  said it's mostly nav that's the challenge. I've camped at the site there previously and walked the eastern route alongside the reservoir, my plan for the next trip is to get dropped off at the village, stay a night in the forest and then make my way down to Hexham. Do post if you end up doing it, I've got some new winter gear to test out so I'm gonna do a smaller trip first before I strand myself in the forest. Pic is from a day hike by Alston on the 20th Dec."}
+{"text":"Does anyone surf in this country? I think we're actually pretty lucky in terms of quality spots so close"}
+{"text":"gun? heh, I just carry bear spray, it's actually more effecti-"}
+{"text":"All animals should have the fear of man upon them since the days of Noah unless they have been tampered with."}
+{"text":"Ah yes, because pulling a gun out of a proper holster and aiming is so much easier! doesn't hike with a rifle at low ready"}
+{"text":"Honestly if you are worried about a bear charging you head on in open terrain just carry a 12 ft pike so it impales itself. Or maybe a Shepard's hook so you can give the reach around and jab it in the asshole. I bet it wouldn't feel like coming at you then. Unless it's, you know, the other kind of bear."}
+{"text":"You mean the curved thing that says \"INERT\" on it? No."}
+{"text":"I think it's adorable you don't even own a gun but still talk about them like you do. I'm worried that the bear will charge you in front of me and I'll have to shoot you in the leg just to make sure he catches you."}
+{"text":"how do you train for mountaneering hiking and backpacking and out in general i know the optimal way is to load weight on a backpack and walk uphill and down, increasing distance, elevation and weight progressively but i live in flat area and it's depressing to drive for 1 hour just to be on the same boring trail. anything closer is shit, i need to go up and down the same hill 10 times to get close to the total elevation i want, it's boring and depressing and people who i encounter think i'm stupid any other suggestions?"}
+{"text":"what if you have lower back problems and carrying heavy backpacks gives you a fucking awful pain for the next few days"}
+{"text":"1. You want a strong aerobic base, so do lots of easy runs or basic hikes that keep you working but let you speak in complete sentences during. Do these as much as you can, 5-7x/week. Ideally these are hikes, but most only have time for that on weekends. 2. You want strength. Don't need to go crazy but lift weights 1-2x weekly, focusing on lower body and core 3. You want \"muscular endurance\". Do hill repeats as heavy as your legs can go. The limiting factor should be your leg strength, so if you can do this for an hour without your legs being tired you aren't hauling heavy enough. 4. Eat lots of protein and sleep enough. Manage stress. Don't neglect carbs and learn to eat while hiking. Rest if you feel an injury happening, training is a marathon not a sprint. This is more or less what training for the new alpinism suggests."}
+{"text":"oh and DO NOT DO HIIT. HIIT IS A WASTE OF TIME FOR ALL ENDURANCE SPORTS and can actually DETRAIN your endurance."}
+{"text":"This sounds like a great way to fuck your body up without ever setting foot on a mountain. I don't see why wouldn't you simply do cardio, get one of those hypoxic masks and get in a bulking diet to build hemoglobin (or move to high elevation and regularly train there), on top of doing core resistance exercise. If you walk around with useless weight on your body you will fuck up your knee cartilages and ankles, on top of bulging your spinal discs without seeing any benefit whatsoever."}
+{"text":"Then you should go to the gym and do your deadlifts to fix your weak back."}
+{"text":"Are there any park rangers here? How hard is it to become one?"}
+{"text":"You're not get hired onto a land management agency right now outside of LEO or Fire. At least for Forest Service there will still be non-Fed temp summer positions that are gonna be hired on through regional partner organizations. It's not gonna lead into an actual job any time soon but it will look good on an application if this is your long term goal. If you want one of those summer spots call up, or better yet go visit the distracts you want to work at so they can guide you to the right organizations to apply through. The hiring process is starting real soon so go do it quick. To expand what  said about pay. Everyone in the agencies know that pay is fucked in the resort/destination areas, but it can't be fixed by the agencies. Locational pay is set by Office of Personal Management, and it only get calculated for an area once you get to 1500 gov employees in a certain radius. And the radius is small enough that only major cities met that criteria. So the rest of the country all uses one location pay rate called \"Rest of US\". It would take OPM or an authority higher to change that. So not happening anytime before 2028."}
+{"text":"if there weren't religion I would be gay"}
+{"text":"You give off thirdie vibes. I don't know why... You wouldn't do anything."}
+{"text":"agree with the way gov works if you symbolically have to get in the cock sucking line, and that starts with seasonal for like 3-10 years depending on how much college or how good you are at cock sucking. go to usa jobs and fill out positions. if the AI system passes you, phone call the ranger stations, because the people behind are usually good ol boy types (in rural areas away from liberal cities). If you want a better in you go to somewhere people dont want to work at. People do this all the time for 'career advancement'. \"oh hey I can become a gs-07 if I spend a year in desert land where the only amenity is sunday night bingo. That's the area to work for. Fire is 'supposed' to split from USFS and become part of Department of Interior under its own division with BLM and a few others but that is still in limbo. This makes 2 points. 1) in theory this may free up some of the funds for USFS after cause fire was undoubtedly eating the USFS budget for the last few decades. 2) until this change, wildland fire was one of the seasonal jobs to get your foot in the door to other USFS work down the line. The USFS world isn't huge either so if you're an asshole, others will know. I meet people all the time that knew someone at my last duty station even if it was in the opposite end of the state. The best thing you can do is be consistent and keep your mouth shut on revealing your power level. You'll meet cool people but its not worth losing a career over. However I got away without getting the vaccine. Also along the lines of what the poster I mentioned said, USFS was getting a substantial budget increase in the last few years, and they kept asking for more. First the Biden administration denied that in 2024, so there was a seasonal layoff panic. Then with Trump in 2025 there was the shutdown. Even if Doge isn't around anymore, USFS both is underfunded and mismanaged."}
+{"text":"NPS is still hiring seasonal employees. Dunno about forest service or BLM. And there's always state parks."}
+{"text":"Why haven't you gone winter camping yet this season /out/? What, are you scared of a little cold?"}
+{"text":"I'm rather about (you) being able to span a mental bridge between motoring and camping. I mean semantically it's not wrong, if you stay in a camp are camping, regardless of how you got there. But it just wont cure the gay."}
+{"text":"What tent is this? this has to be shit though right? looks like a cheap pop up tent, not suited for 4 seasons."}
+{"text":"Sitting around in the dark is boring. 0-degree or lower bags are expensive and take up too much closet space for what little use they'd get. If you fuck up 3-season camping, you have a bad weekend. If you fuck up winter camping, you die. Ever wake up drenched in sweat because you wore too many layers to bed? That shit will kill you in the winter."}
+{"text":"Useless american, what are you doing on this board?"}
+{"text":"cabins are superior"}
+{"text":"I think the Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands in Poland are a bit underrated outing place"}
+{"text":"Beautiful, thanks for the post. My ancestors come from the Sudetenland. I want to travel there this year, the Table Mountains look interesting too."}
+{"text":"I'm planning to go to Austria me too, the area around Vent looks amazing"}
+{"text":"Absolute tourist bait. You can't hear your thoughts over people taking selfies and their kids running around screaming, and everything costs as if it was next to the sea and the mountains at the same time."}
+{"text":"I know a few places with barely any tourists in Częstochowa alone. I didn't see a single human being on Mount Prędziszów but I wouldn't recommend it because of industrial smell. Very few go to mount Osson and nobody goes east of it. Right riverbank of Warta from \"Pont de Srebrna\" to Mount Przeprośna, including Jaś i Małgosia rocks were completely empty too, except for one guy riding his dirt bike on Mount Przeprośna. It's not for faint hearted because you need to cross this \"bridge\" to find yourself on the northern slope of Mount Przeprośna."}
+{"text":"I enjoyed"}
+{"text":"I've taken this road a few times, it's genuinely just gnarly."}
+{"text":"does it actually connect the central valley and the coast like they wanted it to do, I mean if somehow they got through all the snow, could they have made it?"}
+{"text":"I'm always curious about \"secret\" ways to get places that connect very remote areas. I mean, that's the reason she married an Azn man. He got to be with someone of the better race, in exchange for having to be with someone bitchy and controlling."}
+{"text":"I'm always curious about \"secret\" ways to get places that connect very remote areas. Move to northern or central Nevada."}
+{"text":"You tried, I guess."}
+{"text":"General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either. My personal questions: I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course? I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?"}
+{"text":"That sucks. At least the hardware seems solid. With good user feedback, maybe their next version will be a lot better in terms of interface design, once."}
+{"text":"I did a touch and go to 70 feet today, I need to get my bottom time up."}
+{"text":"Respect!"}
+{"text":"i'll give you all the bottom time you need anon :3"}
+{"text":"Is it possible to live completely cut off from the rest of the world? Not using money or having to work. If so where and what are the basic tools required?"}
+{"text":"axe drawbar hatchet hammer saw pick maddock hoe shovel bucket rake"}
+{"text":"Its a work in progress and the reason why its \"volume 1\" is because its regional. So you would need different information dependant on region. For example, you can harvest salt from the ocean in the coastal pacific northwest whereas in the Alberta Foothills you would need to bring it in since you cannot source salt in the Foothills. You would need to prepare for avalanches and be able to identify leylines whereas in the Coastal Pacific Northwest, that doesnt matter. Etc. But when Volume 1 is finished, i will certainly drop it here. But it will only be relevant for the region its written on."}
+{"text":"If you want to live offgrid, away from society, then you must put in the work or effort or you will die of starvation or exposure. Tools cost money. If you dont want to spend money on tools then create your own from wood and stone like a caveman. Chip a rock into shape, create a notched handle, fit the rock in, use resin created from sap or glue made from a hunt to seal the tool head with the handle and tie it into place using primitive cordage. Or you can buy an axe for $20. If you want minimum work whilst in the bush then prefabricate a pop up cabin. Which takes work anyways. Youre not escaping labor in the bush. This life isnt for the weak or stupid unless you want to end up like McCandless. Vagrant? Im a hyper-violent antisocial vagabond. The fuck you think drove me to the woods?"}
+{"text":"No. In this day and age, your government of choice WILL fuck you in the ass. If they even get a whiff of you trying to live rent free from their control, they wil swat you fast and hard. It's easiest to be a nomad(harder to track that way) at first, but when you get old and want to put down roots in the wild, that's when they pounce."}
+{"text":"hoe hell yeah nigga"}
+{"text":"Everyone post your tips, tricks, and knowledge about how to best see in the dark, and how to best utilise your scotopic vision. This includes discussion of lighting and how to best use it, and IR/thermal/nacht vision options. I'll start: Your scotopic (night) vision takes about 20mins to reach highly effective performance, and up to an hour to reach peak performance - so it's important that you preserve it! Facts about your vision that you can use to your advantage: your eye has two main types of photoreceptors: cones and rods. cones are sensitive to colour and most of your fine detail relies on them, they are NOT sensitive to contrast or movement rods are sensitive to contrast and very sensitive to movement, they see ONLY contrast: dark vs. light and never in fine focus. cones are grouped in the centre of your retina, directly behind your pupil and lens rods are non-existent in the centre of your retina, but are spread around the outside, off-axis from your cornea, making survival possible because it is your peripheral vision that you rely on for reflex if anything suddenly moves in on you in scotopic vision your cones fail and you rely entirely on your rods, this is why in low light everything looks grey or black & white this also means in the dark anything you try to stare directly at (if you think something is lurking out there in the moonlight) you won't be able to see, you're basically blind to anything you stare at Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"nah red light doesn't scatter or dissipate as quickly in the atmosphere or fog as shorter wavelength light, this is why things like stop lights and railroad crossing indicators etc are red. you may have noticed other lights being more visible but remember, it's all about luminosity. a more powerful green light will easily outshine and appear brighter than a red light, but if all things are equal the red light is the last one you will still see as it fades into the distance."}
+{"text":"I have visual snow syndrome. My vision is dog shit in the dark. Feels bad man."}
+{"text":"what's the medical advice for dealing with this? this syndrome is new to me"}
+{"text":"Keep a patch over one eye, so that when darkness falls, you have an eye already adapted to lowlight conditions."}
+{"text":"good catch actually, like the pirates did. although for me my depth perception is garbo to begin with and that would just handicap me. I'd be tripping all over the place"}
+{"text":"would a solo alpine winter ascent of K2 without oxygen be a greater feat than free soloing El Capitan?"}
+{"text":"Positively /favstian/"}
+{"text":"Welcome to most hobbies that require $$$ to do at the high end. Same with Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountaineering, etc."}
+{"text":"I think sherpas haul all the shit down the mountain these days. That's if you bother to shit in a bag and put it into a dedicated human waste container up there on the mountain."}
+{"text":"based gilbertson enjoyer. He's not even 40 yet and he only has a few technical summits left. Idk what he is gonna do about Bhutan but everything else he can do when he is older."}
+{"text":"I think it's a bot"}
+{"text":"Explanation: What Is Eco-Autarky? An eco-autarky loop, otherwise known as eco-autarky, is a self-sufficiency system with strong emphasis on ecological principals, independence from industrial supply chains, and minimum waste. Eco-autarky loops go a step beyond traditional economic autarky (self-sufficiency). Eco-autarky loops (through all-natural, low-impact regenerative methodology) result in the production of essential resources using renewable biological processes, easily acquirable resources and closed-loop systems. Each stage of an eco-autarky loop may provide useful byproducts. Example: Eco-Autarkical Disinfectant Cleaner The following eco-autarkical closed-loop system results in an all-natural disinfectant cleaner from excess harvested/wasted fruit/plant material, producing useful byproducts throughout 5 stages of production. Stage 1: Harvest or collect apples, pears, grapes, berries, peaches and/or sugar-rich roots (beets, carrots) in your garden or food forest. Use windfalls, overripe fruit, peels, cores - anything that would normally become waste. Stage 2: Alcoholic Fermentation (Yeast Phase) - Crush/chop the harvest to make a simple fruit mash or juice. Add yeast to the fruit juice then ferment in a jar/bucket for 1-3 weeks. Byproductive result: fruit wine or hard cider (1/2)"}
+{"text":"Stage 6: Basic Mixing - Blend the matured slaked lime with clean sand (1:3 ratio by volume) and a small amount of water to create a basic paste. This can be used immediately for simple applications. Semi-Useful Product: lime mortar Stage 7: Enhanced Mixing - Incorporate the prepared clay pozzolan (10-30% of lime weight) into the lime mortar mix, along with gravel and reserved crushed shell aggregate (adjust to 1:2:4 lime:pozzolan/sand:gravel ratio). Add water for a pourable consistency. Pour into forms or apply; it sets through hydration and carbonation over days to weeks. Versatile Staple Product: concrete Optional: Stage 8: Curing - Expose the set concrete to humid air or mist with water periodically. Test strength by pressing: firmer = better set. Higher clay content yields stronger results."}
+{"text":"Example: Eco-Autarkical Natural Wood Finisher & Sealant The following ecologically autarkical closed-loop system produces an all-natural wood finisher and sealant from tree-derived materials (through the processes of resin tapping, oil pressing, wax rendering, and blending) resulting in: 1 versatile staple byproduct (pine needle mulch/tea residue) 1 versatile staple product (natural wood finisher/sealant) 2 semi-useful products (raw pine resin, beeswax base) The reason for the effectiveness of the natural wood finisher/sealant is due to the synergistic protective properties of polymerizing linseed oil (deep penetration and hardening), beeswax (water-repellent sheen), and pine resin/turpentine (adhesion and solvent action). As the materials go through the stages of production and blending, the mixture gains durability and breathability. Higher resin content increases water resistance, while balanced ratios ensure a non-toxic, food-safe finish that enhances wood grain without synthetic chemicals."}
+{"text":"Stage 1: Collection - Gather flax seeds from your garden or wild linseed plants for oil pressing, pine resin (sap/pitch) from wounded or tapped pine trees in your food forest (use sustainable scoring), and honeycomb or beeswax scraps from your apiary. Collect pine needles as secondary material. Stage 2: Oil Extraction - Press flax seeds (using a simple manual press or mortar) to extract raw linseed oil. Allow it to settle and filter impurities. Stage 3: Resin Preparation - Collect and clean raw pine resin. Gently heat small batches to melt and strain debris, producing a viscous base (optional: distill small amounts with steam to separate turpentine for thinning). Semi-Useful Product: raw pine resin (for glue, fire starter, or basic sealant) Stage 4: Wax Processing - Melt beeswax from honeycomb in a solar or low-heat double boiler, filter out debris. Semi-Useful Product: beeswax base (for candles, balms, or direct use) Stage 5: Blending - In a double boiler, melt beeswax, then stir in equal parts linseed oil and a portion of melted pine resin (or turpentine from distillation for thinner consistency). Heat gently until fully combined (1:1:1 ratio by weight for balanced penetration/sheen/protection). Test by cooling a drop: smooth, non-brittle = ready. Stage 6: Application & Curing - Apply the warm mixture to sanded wood surfaces with a cloth or brush, rubbing in thoroughly. Allow multiple thin coats to penetrate and polymerize over days/weeks in airy conditions. Versatile Staple Product: natural wood finisher/sealant (for furniture, tools, cutting boards, or outdoor wood—provides sheen, water resistance, and nourishment) Stage 7: Residue Use - Compost pine needle remnants or brew into weak tea for plant tonic/soil amendment. Versatile Staple Byproduct: pine needle mulch/tea residue (for garden mulch, natural pest deterrent, or nutrient cycling)"}
+{"text":"what strange / spooky stuff have you seen? once when i was in the desert, there was a telephone pole, on it looked exactly like a 10ft tall bird of prey, just eyeing me down it was about a good 5min of walking, which felt like forever, just to see that it was a transformer that looked weird, none of the other poles had it either sounds dumb, but it really did look exactly like a gigantic human sized hawk, and the \"head\" even seemed to follow you too, really interesting illusion, since it also hit all the primal parts of the brain that gone \"you're about to be fucking eaten by a bird!!!!!!\" a year or two later, when i was gonna take a picture, it was gone, which adds a strange air to \"it was right there, i tell you!\" inb4 go to /x/ for this shit i want real stories, not >i smelled the rotten shit fart gas, and my best friend was turned into a skinwalker, and then i pulled out that gun from videogame and blasted it, dude trust me"}
+{"text":"You're an autistic freak."}
+{"text":"thread hit bump limit, noice it was seriously great to see your guy's stories, and really funny to see the anons keep bumping the thread to piss the one guy off maybe this year you guys can get more some strange / spooky stories for halloween, i'll make another thread around that time later cya next time, anons"}
+{"text":"You know we will have this thread again tomorrow, right?"}
+{"text":"There was a Disney movie about skinwalkers made in the 1990s called brother bear"}
+{"text":"You only get one chance to explore the Lost Ruins of Ohio, anon. Shouldn't have gone back for dinner."}
+{"text":"Google claims this is a real story. Do a reverse image search and see if you can convince it otherwise."}
+{"text":"Pixar hands lol"}
+{"text":"I hope this is the right place to put this, since I am very new here. Recently I've been seeing this meme about someone getting ripped open by a nail sticking out of an at home water slide, the tarp ones you set up with a sprinkler, and now I've been thinking, I need to see absolutely any example of this happening, it just sounds too bloody for me not to want to see."}
+{"text":"Any tips for off trail hiking? I pretty much covered all trails at my go to out location but there's still plenty of unexplored land and terrain to hike on but I'll have to find my way through dense scrubland and hilly/rocky terrain. I'm in pretty good shape and have all the gear since I already day hike at least a couple times a week(15 or so miles)."}
+{"text":"Ya just hike. That's p much it. Don't overthink it."}
+{"text":"You will encounter much more wildlife than you would normally and depending on where you are at that could be snakes, spiders, ticks etc"}
+{"text":"this is such a strange question to me since i from being carried in a backpack-thingy as s toddler and up to this day has always hiked off path or trail. kinda misleading, off-trail implies there is a trail somewhere and there is no such thing here. i only do such hikes for a reason reach that summit fish in that lake and then its pretty easy to plan them ahead on good maps or preferably google satellite view. or you just go and see where your feets take you."}
+{"text":"i have spotted 2 \"hills\" in the forest near me, no trails. there is what seems to be a creek between em. there is gold in the area so i thought i should go check it out. but i am not sure how to get there. what app should i use, google earth?"}
+{"text":"I appreciate all the advice guys, the entire area isn't crazy large maybe 100 square miles and 15 miles on a straight line in its \"wildest\" stretch but there's plenty of small (100 people tops) settlements all throughout it. Elevation varies from 5k ft to 2k, very hilly, brush isn't crazy dense since it's also very rocky but there's plenty of room for injury since there's big drops from large boulders or creeks. Went there today(on trail) and saw a fox, supposedly there's wolves but I have never seen nor heard one, plus deer and hogs, no large cats nor bears. Large guard shepherd dogs are aplenty and get pretty aggressive if you come close to the herd. Besides a couple spots phone reception is normally fine. Lots of heavy rain and wind lately but as soon as it calms down I'll give off trail solo hiking a proper go, it should be fun."}
+{"text":"why does it seem like all you people want to go out and be “in le nature” but don’t give a single fuck about preserving ecosystems or native biodiversity? You feel entitled to go out and be in nature and treat it like your personal fucking playground, damaging the ecosystem and demanding roads and trails be paved through the wilderness so you can “heckin enjoy it”? And then go home and continue to fuel the 6th mass extinction with your destructive consumerist habits? Anyway, I planted some Texas native wildflowers today to help the declining pollinator population in my area. What did you do?"}
+{"text":"Welcome to 4chan!"}
+{"text":"liberals trying to gate keep access to public land. the only people gate keeping access to public land are billionaire land owners and bootlicking reactionaries. Go suck Mike Lee's cock (if you can find it- I hear its quite small)"}
+{"text":"To conserve and preserve in this context are synonyms. Don't be pedantic. relying to bait You really shouldn't."}
+{"text":"Conservation and preservation are not synonyms in the case of the outdoors though. There is a difference in use and that information conversations around the two."}
+{"text":"informs* I swear autocorrect has an AI implemented now. It keeps making asinine assumptions about what I wanted to type."}
+{"text":"Time is 1:42am in the UK Actual snowstorm covering my town Decide \"Hey I'm a fat autistic POS, lets go for a walk since snow is cool\" Gear up in boots and scarf with gloves ready for a nice hour long walk So there I am walking up a hill enjoying the peace and scenery. I am a fat mid twenties male so I am not really expecting what happens next. I see over the crest, a man walking in the middle of the road towards my direction. I think nothing of it because why the fuck is anyone dodgy going to be out at this time? So I continue walking up the hill thinking nothing of it. As we get closer to eachother he sneakily starts walking onto the pavement in front of me. I'm a bit weirded out at this point so I go \"Alright mate?\" as a friendly gesture. He doesn't respond, I call again and he still doesn't respond. Might be my imagination but I swear he was walking brisker at me. Now I am really pissed off what I did next because I ran like hell. It's almost 2am, the roads are dead and its just me and him, I've never had a proper fight in my life and all I'm thinking in my head is \"GUY HAS A KNIFE AND IS PROBABLY A MIGRANT\". I am a fat bastard but somehow the adrenaline made me speed away faster than I've ever known. Despite the snow I didn't slip. So what the fuck was the guy's problem? Why did he start walking on the pavement only when we were crossing paths? My town isn't known for things like this but occasionally it does happen. I'm just so pissed off man because I feel like a coward. Still thats the most running I've done in years so I was coughing my lungs up for 10 minutes after. Maybe I should join a boxing gym."}
+{"text":"But aren’t knives illegal? I know slightly harsh words are."}
+{"text":"I know that feel bro. I was walking around a football field in the carpark when a car coming my way stops just metres from me, then a guy gets out and starts walking towards me, hands in pockets and not saying a word. I learned that night that I am definitely a flight guy, not a fight guy. My legs just moved by instinct, and they didn't stop until the danger was gone."}
+{"text":"fuck that man you should have crouched low and began running at him full sprint, aim for the knees"}
+{"text":"in the UK Tbh I just stopped reading. If you're anything like the bongs I've worked with then you're a creeper"}
+{"text":"was about to say maybe he is mentally ill and looking for some feedback that could have gone negative real fast."}
+{"text":"Any /spear/ bros? I was hiking pretty remotely on some old Indian trails along the river in central texas and happened upon some hogs. Wasn’t the first time this has happened either. I have no interest in hunting but I’m considering buying one to carry for defense if one decided to charge me next time and i don’t have a cliff or tree to retreat to. it seems like it would be pretty handy to have around as it was the most effective weapon in general before projectiles were invented"}
+{"text":"I don’t feel like interacting with gun fags, I own a few but carrying there isn’t lawful and I’d rather not buttheads with federal law"}
+{"text":"their dirt cheap and light for the weight and cost you cannot do better than a spear that said if youve never killed something with a spear you are not going to magically kill that 300lb pig running at you you may as well not have it at all and just run still"}
+{"text":"Killing boar with a spear used to be a test of courage in antiqutiy and the middle ages. it's not without risk at all."}
+{"text":"You aren’t going to 1v1 a hog with a spear even hog “hunters” ambush them or use a dog to distract them and then sneak in from the side and spear them in the throat or cut it with a Bowie. You pretty much have to flank them their head and back are extremely durable."}
+{"text":"Nah. Hunters regularly stick wounded hogs who attack them from the front. It is possible. Of course, you need to be very unlucky or very obnoxious to get attacked by a hog. Making enough noise to warn them and get away is usually enough."}
+{"text":"is xander the new goat of /out/ youtubers?"}
+{"text":"I can do a temu gear review in a blizzard"}
+{"text":"Then do it lil bro, we need content."}
+{"text":"As soon as I get my drone and gopro. I don't want to risk my life only to shoot in 720p"}
+{"text":"Never watched this guy, but hasn’t a lot of primitive living tube stuff been debunked? Hidden pumps? Construction equipment use? Cleverly covered wiring? Host has hotel receipts for nights he was supposed to have been roughing it?"}
+{"text":"these people are so boring compared to GOATs like Lars Monsen. Not even close. Youtube slop"}
+{"text":"fantasy books recommendations?"}
+{"text":"Seconding this all day long"}
+{"text":"The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany The Earthsea cycle by Ursula Le Guin Also The Left Hand of Darkness, which /out/ists should appreciate"}
+{"text":"Anyone have any suggestions for a fantasy book that has similar philosophical reach in the writing to something like \"Wyst Alastor 1716\" I find it almost impossible to read a non metaphorical story that doesn't have a message."}
+{"text":"Seconding any New Sun recommendations, adding The Knight by Wolfe as well. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms by George R.R Martin is a great pick too, perfect bite sized fantasy about a wandering knight."}
+{"text":"I fucking hate them to my core. They often buy up land, then totally ban access to the public, even in places where public access was previously legal, with zero explanation about why, while bragging and showing off videos of the beautiful overlooks they would love to arrest you for trespassing to get to on their website. If they DO allow access, there's never any signage, adequate parking, let alone improved trails. They truly do not give a fuck and I imagine them as hateful boomers who pat themselves on the back \"oh the land is protected now!\" as they ban access. It might as well be private land. It has all been logged already."}
+{"text":"Someone with no money or prospects for buying their own land shat you out for probably no other reason than a desire for attention or because of an accident and millions of other people in their generation did the same thing so now the rest of us have to worry about whether or not you have a house and a job and a woman to shit out your progeny or you’ll cause trouble, especially if you don’t have a place to satisfy your caveman desire to see what’s coming to eat you."}
+{"text":"From what I have read, rich folks PROFIT (of course) by tax deduction -- donating land to TNC... Someday I feel like every goddamn thing in the economy is a scam for billionaires to puff themselves up and increase their wealth."}
+{"text":"maybe it is that, I don't get how giving your money away saves money - I mean you dont pay taxes cuz you don't keep it, there must be more to this scam than I know of, but I also feel like nature conservancy are eco fascists - they believe land is meant for animals and humans should stay out - they basically hate humans but I also feel like things were less restrictive in the 50s and 60s regarding casual land access and remember the concept of no trespassing wasn't original to america and doesn't exist in plenty of countries without incident"}
+{"text":"I don't get how giving your money away saves money - I mean you dont pay taxes cuz you don't keep it, there must be more to this scam than I know of Also crucial to utilizing charity as a tax avoidance strategy is pumping up the value of your generosity. “You donate some fancy piece of fine art to a museum, you get an assessment for the art, it’s much more than you could actually ever sell it for,” explains Reck. “You get a big tax write-off.” It’s not just fine art, either — one popular form of overvaluation (until Congress passed a bill putting an end to it last year) involved inflating the value of land. Called a “syndicated conservation easement,” it took advantage of an incentive for environmental conservation, in which landowners who agree not to develop their land would get a tax break proportional to the fair market value of the land. “The game is that people just massively, ludicrously inflate these fair market values,” says Reck. In the syndicated version of this tax break, a group of investors buys land, gets an overvalued assessment on it, and shares the tax write-off between themselves. “Now there are a bunch of court cases about it,” Reck says."}
+{"text":"/out/ seething about a group called The Nature Conservancy Yup, it's a nu-/out/ thread"}
+{"text":"Where to buy second hand glacier glasses? Is eBay the only decent option? Found These on facebook market place, Vintage but cheap, worth buying?"}
+{"text":"6 years ago this thread would have been deleted for being a giant attention seeking faggot. Today it's the third most /out/ post on the board"}
+{"text":"which star trek episode is that?"}
+{"text":"In that case you're poor and not a mountaineer, enjoy walking your \"adventurous mountain trails\" with more gear than you'll ever need while some faggot in sandals passes you by while being equally safe"}
+{"text":"imagine wearing second hand glasses with sweat gunk on them lmao"}
+{"text":"After a violent confrontation with police he fled into the Victorian High Country. What followed is a three month manhunt by 500 police, including 125 specialist tactical officers, 20 dog teams, six helicopters, an unknown number of thermal drones and in addition hundreds of military personnel. Despite the effort not so much as a footprint of the man was found. As the search past its first month the issue became obvious. This guy had four decades of experience in the area, his son calling it his second home. Friends recounted an obsession with bushcraft and a history of living offgrid in makeshift homes, old buses, sheds and caves. He knew the mineshafts were a safe comfortable place at night and as a prepper he was known to stash things in many a hidden place. As the hunt entered its 2nd month his connections to anti government groups were exposed and the police had to reconcile the fact he may be helped. With thermals completely failing, tactical officers were given the gruelling task of crawling through caves and mineshafts. With no success the Australian public began questioning what all this was costing. Independent media interviewed locals and suspicions were raised, how could such a well liked man kill for no reason? Why has the bodycam footage not been released? As the hunt entered its 3rd month half the units were sent home. Weeks of snow storms and dangerous conditions had crushed morale. The welfare toll was immense. Stories of psychological damage on officers. PTSD was diagnosed, this man, this ghost, he could have been behind any tree. Various theories were floated, suggestions that if the police couldn't find him then maybe he wasn't even there. And now there is but a skeleton crew, still searching, refusing to give up."}
+{"text":"You forgot alcohol."}
+{"text":"Pretty much, anglo police in general with perhaps some in the US are generally retarded or immoral. You went 2km or 2miles over the limit \"pull him the fuck over high crimes n sheit\". Your a known terrorist associate of a group that raped, murdered and extorted overseas who activily preach murdering your fellow countrymen? Oh well you had a bad childhood or something. Utterly fucking useless should be most police forces new motto. I'm 100% behind abolishing most police forces aside from high-speed chase, rural and say SWAT."}
+{"text":"4chan rando has better common sense than an entire country’s government Many such cases."}
+{"text":"Fucking legend, the modern day Ned Kelly."}
+{"text":"Things will never change until the intelligence agencies, underground military-industrial-complex lairs and defense contractor facilities are stormed and the glowniggers and parasites who work there are executed and the data they collect is leaked to the public so that the rest of these government assets, zogbots, mercenaries, glorified jannies and authority figures can be hunted down and exterminated."}
+{"text":"I think I want to sell my home and just either live in a boat or an rv and fuck around the west coast until I eventually drop dead or something Anyone here ever actually live in an rv or a small boat full time? does one cost more than the other long terms? I suppose the boat thing sucks because no natl parks or driving around to go get supplies, but living on the water sounds kind of cozy honestly"}
+{"text":"Unless you live somewhere tropical you WILL have to dock and store the boat on land during the winter. If you can sail then a sailboat could be cheaper then an RV, a motorboat of any real livable size has enormous fuel consumption. Either one requires a lot of DIY and spare capital in case something important breaks (rigging or the engine). I have lived semi-permanently in both and RV's are a lot simpler to own given they are automobiles and society is very car oriented. Freshwater will be one of you biggest concerns in both, an RV could use filtration on freshwater lakes but a boat will require a RO system if you don't want to dock every week. Unless you know places where it's free, safe and conviniant-ish to park or moor then don't bother with either, a marina can cost $15 a night, campground around $7. also OP is both fake, gay and a FED poster."}
+{"text":"You have probably driven a car before so I'd say go with the RV. Trying to just jump into a boat you live on and learning how to maintenance and navigate the seas sounds like it would be a nightmare and less of an adventure"}
+{"text":"B.O.A.T. Bring Out Another Thousand"}
+{"text":"You probably want to look into how much gas a boat goes through. You can easily burn 10+ gallons per hour."}
+{"text":"How can you not realize the op is an idiot just wanting attention? Are you stupid?"}
+{"text":"I want to have camping adventures like Rin chan, traveling with a tent and staying in camping places around southern germany and central europe as a whole, but I need to make a choice Either I go the Rin route and buy a scooterlike motorbike or I buy an e-bike On one hand with the motorbike I get to go farther away and faster and have more carrying capacity, but with the e-bike I have full access to europe's large bike trail network and can travel by train with it when necessary. Also, thanks to the engine, hilly terrain isn't a problem Help me make a choice"}
+{"text":"Bro haven't you realized that the CO2 cult shit is over now and you can all go home. Even bill gates stepped away from it now."}
+{"text":"Retard."}
+{"text":"# It may be surprising to you but people exist who are not interested to 'belong to' or 'be part of' a group or any other hivemind BS. Also you're relatively stupid if you really fail to see how almost all data points towards antrophogenic climate change. In either case you're inconsiderate of others if you accept the possibility of hurting someone else directly - you probably use the euphemism 'accident'. And you're either stupid or invonsiderate again if you fail to see that motorvehicles emit not only CO2 but also noise, brake dust, HC, NOx, PM... which ultimately harms other people. Meanwhile you are lazy or degenerate enough to knowingly accept all those effects because you're too weak or too lazy and 'you got used to it and it was normalized before we knew all this' and you're again too lazy to change a habit so instead you rather deceive yourself. That's easier. Homosexual."}
+{"text":"Why don't you just ride your bike instead? Because I have a job. Riding 300 miles takes time. Cycling is great and less reliance on personal vehicles is as well, but I haven't made it my special interest and will use it when it's practical. Since /out/ is a slow board I can only assume you'll seethe in this thread for months to come. Enjoy I guess."}
+{"text":"Just because anon buys into propaganda regarding personal use doesn't mean pollution isn't real."}
+{"text":"Southwestern Australia has these thermokarst lakes like Minnesota or Russia. Does it get very cold there?"}
+{"text":"Days below zero degrees C would be few and far between in that location. My guess is last ice age."}
+{"text":"Yeah it gets really fucking cold sometimes I have to wear a jacket."}
+{"text":"Yeah we get blizzards and snow storms in australia"}
+{"text":"No you don’t"}
+{"text":"he's still muttposting I don't know, I'm starting to feel bad for you"}
+{"text":"Have friend Retired military (Navy) Came into a bit of money, with the business he and I run Travels the world in our off season (we are military contractors). Flys to Nepal with his thot Australian GF Decides he wants to climb Mt. Everest (lol) Actually find this sketchy as fuck outfitter that agreed to take him on a expedition that has multiple fatalities on record Ligit is spending like $40k and more on this whole expedition Has no experience Mountain Climbing aside from Mt. Fuji and other mountains in Japan (really are just hikes) Has no glacial or Alpine traversing experience/training /fit/ in a base way he hasn't trained or acclimatized to this. Basically giving me the whole yolo line Literally already at base camp. How do I convince my friend he's going to die and this a beyond a pants on head retarded idea. How the fuck do these outfitters not vet people on something like this? He's on a high because he divorced his psycho whore of a wife that put his dog down to spite him and he's made just over a million dollars working in the defense industry and shrewd investment with me. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"Isn't the long queues one of the dangers if you get stuck because you have limited time in the death zone?"}
+{"text":"Being old and balding don't mean you can't hike retard. Also being fat is hardly an issue unless you're obese. You can still have good endurance despite being fat. Do you people even go outside?"}
+{"text":"Do you people even go outside? Why would we be here if we went outside?"}
+{"text":"American education moment"}
+{"text":"Touch grass retard"}
+{"text":"Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?"}
+{"text":"I saw a video of a guy with a literal pop-up tent. It's stored under tension and when you take it out, it pops up in seconds. What is this type of tent called? Is it a gimmick or is is something that's fine for very casual camping?"}
+{"text":"Gimmick"}
+{"text":"those are usually meant as one way tents for music festivals and such."}
+{"text":"Humanity is lost."}
+{"text":"No sorry I don't use tents."}
+{"text":"What's the best backpacking location in Europe?"}
+{"text":"Yeah, we have the aurora where I live. Still, not worth coming here, way too many tourists everywhere. Eating out is extremely expensive, you'll pay 30 dollarbucks for a mediocre burger, for a real meal with a glass of wine and dessert, you'll pay 100+"}
+{"text":"suhlasim, the carpathians in general"}
+{"text":"Why would I go to a tourist attraction and hike surrounded by other people?"}
+{"text":"I may or may not have called Trump a fascist, a dictator, a grifter and a muppet on 4chan, so that's not exactly an option for me."}
+{"text":"Just don't start protest groups with funding from international intelligence agencies and you won't have a problem."}
+{"text":"Hi /out/, i noticed in the last few years a very strange trend with the weather. It started around five years ago, when the °c jumped from night to day almost 10 grad. It became worst over the years, jumping from one day to another day 20°c. In the next week, there will be anohter jump but this time it is very brutal, from night to day +20°c. Is this a climate change thing?"}
+{"text":"The poles are shifting. Theres a hole in the ozone thats causing these crazy weather patterns along with the pole shift my nigga."}
+{"text":"this is germany, last time such a spike happened it was followed with a flood in 2021"}
+{"text":"jumping from one day to another day 20°c. anohter jump but this time it is very brutal, from night to day +20°c. Do you not have weather?"}
+{"text":"implies this is normal anon, this is not normal."}
+{"text":"Whats not normal? that the temp varies from day to night or that some days are warmer than others? thats very normal. Explain why you think this is strange/"}
+{"text":"Anyone munched on seagulls? My local chicken shop the chicken wings be leathery and tasting licl like fishsticks yano. Anyone tried munching on seagulls cuz i look at them and Im like fuck bro that's free protein n that and i can serve my boys a feast for free yano its economical in austerity inflation n that or is eating seagull mental health idk I just look at these lil tings flying around and thing shi man its just free food n that. if any of you munched on these seagulls lmk if you ever got around to making halal seagull sausage rolls. mans feeling mischievous yano I'm feeling like id bulk HARD on £0 carnivours diet putting the money aside for crypto feeling like a POWERFUL guy yano."}
+{"text":"What the fuck are you talking about freak? Yes you can eat any bird. Fuck off to where ever you came from."}
+{"text":"Just living my best life yano take it easy"}
+{"text":"Me and some friends have this dream of walking from Seattle to Miami. I'm currently working through the logistics of the trip. Our current plan involves 15 hours of walking a day, well have packs with pad sleeping bag and mainly just a lot of water, we only want to carry enough food to get to the next place we can buy more with a little extra just in case. Timing wise the summer after we graduate is looking like the most likely time to do it. Heat wise I'm not really concerned about the Washington through Wyoming section of the journey, we've all done lots of intensive summer backpacking before, I've worked 10 hour shifts in 100+ degree weather before. I am however worried about Nebraska onwards. I'm from the mountain west and have no real experience with humidity which i am told makes things entirely different. a conservative estimate would have us at the Wyoming Nebraska border by the end of July and in Miami mid September, but we will likely be moving faster than this. Is covering this region on foot in this time of year doable or will our plans have to change?"}
+{"text":"Instead of fantasizing about going outside, why don't you just... go outside? i do quite frequently. this is the just big goal. 15 hours a day really isn't that crazy at all especially once we make it past the Rockies. everyone in this group is pretty experienced, and we've all covered 25 miles of way worse terrain than we'll see at any point in this route in under 14 hours. those first two weeks might get a little rough as the days start to stack up, but will be totally doable. the pioneers did 15 hour days and half of them we're like midwestern shopkeepers and farmers who had never gained more than 500 feet of elevation in their life."}
+{"text":"You're planning to spend all fall and winter hiking through the entire midwest and then spend all of peak summer hiking through the south? Don't be a retard. Just go hike the PCT or something"}
+{"text":"What's your plan so far as far as your route is concerned? I'm really interested to hear/see what you've got planned so far."}
+{"text":"the biggest threat is low iq southerners and especially super low iq southern cops. they are literally the dumbest people ever."}
+{"text":"Thoroughly clean all of your gear once you get home. Never leave it dirty. It is a slow and relaxing process almost meditative. Do not leave your gear dirty as a performance to other men. Maintain your kit."}
+{"text":"I keep my gear dirty because the dirt adds to natural camouflage."}
+{"text":"/qtddtot/ - Questions that don’t deserve their own thread (I think)"}
+{"text":"am i retarded to not want to camp in 0-10 deg C"}
+{"text":"does anyone have those STALKER /out/ challenge lists? cant find them and i tossed my laptop with them on it."}
+{"text":"or any challenge lists? i want to larp this year"}
+{"text":"Terrain and micro terrain. Avoid low areas or areas which appear marshy. Slightly up the hill, ideally on a small rise. Depending on the ground it might hold or shed water. Lastly toss a ground sheet underneath you, smaller than your tarp. That'll help from water soaking upward without catching rain. If you are in a tarp, you can even get a waterproof bathtub floor or get a bugnet with one."}
+{"text":"got a new backpack, it's super nice but the back panel and shoulder straps feel a bit stiff. that's normal, right and will go away with use, right?"}
+{"text":"Can you advise me some gear to go hiking in Svalbard (north pole)? inb4 you're an idiot and you're gonna die"}
+{"text":"why not?"}
+{"text":"a coworker of mine did a few tours to the desoltate islands surrounding svalbard, norrway got weather and radar stations there. he where dog sledding on his time off one day and got tired of the krag rifle on his back hitting his head on every bump, so he took it of and put in on his sledge, and right there the dogs took off and ran home with the sledge, rifle and all his gear. and he had to walk home in icebear land, unarmed, no gear, nothing. it was just a 5km walk or so but plenty of time to get eaten by ice bear. yes svalbard has these signs at stores and its one of few if not the only airports where you can rent a gun."}
+{"text":"Wow."}
+{"text":"i dont really enjoy telling other peoples stories here, they should be telling them themselfs but they are boomers who can barely read a newspaper on their phone. im lucky enough that i work with some of them boomers and when its suited i tell their story. that guy btw, his tour was at hopen radio (google maps it) with some detours to bjørnøya, jan mayen and svalbard. and he didnt tell his wife about it im going for work when will you be home? in 14months... for the stories and experience, you should look up such guys and listen to them."}
+{"text":"bump"}
+{"text":"I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps."}
+{"text":"Agreed And Mediterranean"}
+{"text":"Woodlands. Only woodlands. I dont care especially for forests but i like them, but anything else like beach, plain etc, i am not interested. i just like being surrounded by woods. Dead and live trees."}
+{"text":"woodlands Something like this"}
+{"text":"Yes anyone who doesn't appreciate this clearly isn't white, looking over an evergreen forest is the greatest continuous pattern to exist on earth."}
+{"text":"Oak savanna"}
+{"text":"Recycled polyester I don't want to wear clothing made from jeet garbage. Sad i was really interested in patagonia"}
+{"text":"Bamboo \"Bamboo\" fibre is viscose made of bamboo. Also tencel is the superior viscose fibre."}
+{"text":"The wife has bamboo sheets. Those stay cold for like, ever. They're also really smooth. Not soft like polyester, but buttery smooth like silk."}
+{"text":"agreed patagonia has been trash ever since they started putting their logo on the breast of their clothes. They even have ll bean copying that design language so their clothes are ruined now too. I don't want to be a walking billboard."}
+{"text":"i don't understand the fucking logic of this. do ecofags really?"}
+{"text":"Ya really. Yes it's retarded. Producing plastic is environmentally harmless (and could even be done from biological ethanol). Disposing of it is. I have to wonder whether the effort of transforming recycled polyester into jackets instead of just burning it isn't even more harmful than just producing it new."}
+{"text":"You know those threads we have every week about dropping everything and living alone in the woods? Almost in a ascetic manner without internet and no job. Why? What causes it? To me it seems to be wanting an escape of urban life, the responsibilities and never-ending noise, the internet that has been utterly destroyed, to escape corporatism or something along those lines. To utterly reject consumerism and decadence. Now in that sense the desire for that has been noted to have existed since roman times from what i have read. To simpler times, to rural life before urbanization. A romantization of perhaps a gilded past. Don't get me wrong, rural life is superior to urban life but it too has its disadvantages. Especially now when the majority lives in the city leaving only old people out in the countryside rather than the bustling village 100 years ago. The warmth of the village is gone in most places or dying out as is. If you can't find contentness in the now then you won't find contentness in a log cabin in the middle of Alaska."}
+{"text":"omigosh bus? chris mcandles reference???"}
+{"text":"You're a retard and your 50 IQ take is silly, at best. Purpose or lack of it, has absolutely nothing to do with it. Purpose is an illusion imprinted onto your subconscious so your brain could justify suffering. This is about people waking up that to the idea that they are completely and utterly dependant on an unnatural system that hates them and treats them like cattle. When you go out into the woods, the purpose does not change or get added, purpose does not change as it is irrelevant to begin with. What changes is the person taking back control and being less dependent on tptb."}
+{"text":"Ted's criticism is on industrial society so any time in history with a \"lumber mill\" and shiftwork is post industrialization."}
+{"text":"What causes social cohesion? You, (OP), have a healthy idea of a norm, where humans are part of a group, after being born into it. Members of the group accept its general beliefs, adopt its mannerisms, identify with it and glorify it without objective reasons to do so. Social instinct, bias, impressionability and herd mentality in humans are pronounced enough to make it hard, almost impossible for a group to fail at projecting cohesion within itself. It begs the question how dysfunctional society, or a group, must be for it to reach a point where all the above feels non-existent or irrelevant to individual members. I believe this is that 'cause' you're asking about. Not everyone experiencing this will wish or even decide to innawoods and wizard. Once those things are gone, that normally make the individual consider those ideas absurd and make the chance of anyone seriously considering that virtually zero, the disillusioned individual might find all sorts of formerly unthinkable delineations equally appealing, after all the group has lost its appeal. It is then merely a question of the individuals character, experiences liking and means how their alternative to life in the group might look like. Some remain shut in at home. Others are out and about but at best superficially interact. Others again seek the distance, or their demise. Drugs and what not. The question should be: Why do people not choose their group and it's traditions, when people are programmed to exactly that? Also"}
+{"text":"Could you survive in the Australian outback with only your knife, a cast iron frypan, a soup pot, your hard-driving 4x4, 150liters of fuel, 70 liters of water, a shovel, a winch, a bedroll, and a saw??"}
+{"text":"exactly. but im a friensless looser who does all my offroading alone. sand beaches is one of the things i try to avoid since sand is one of the worst and most unpredicable terrains to drive on. not that there are many sand beaches in norway, but they do exist... snow is actually easier, it behaves in a predictable way."}
+{"text":"based Les Hiddens appreciator"}
+{"text":"Are there any offroading/4wd clubs you can join? And I don't mean facebook groups. I joined a local club and while it may be 90% boomers it still allows me to drive my car in places I wouldn't dream of doing alone."}
+{"text":"was member of one it was how i got into it. they where mostly into trial and racing and not so much touring and overlanding."}
+{"text":"I couldn't survive anything. I'm just built different."}
+{"text":"I am looking at a 10 day trip. Post your staples, your ideas and your critique. I think my breakfast is solid. I call it an oat bomb. 100g rolled oats, 20g whole milk powder, 20g desiccated coconut, 20g brown sugar, 10g chia seeds That's almost 750cal for breakfast. Prepared before the trip and ready to go as individually stored 170g dry mix in a zip bag. Lunch looks like this 2x 6inch flatbread, 100g dry aged salami, 60g hard cheddar cheese, 20g crushed pumpkin seed, 10g chia seeds That's a 1000cal lunch, 6 inch bread because it fits in the frypan better meaning I can make a quesadilla by sealing both together with cheese, or I can make two smaller wraps. The crushed pumpkin and chia seeds end up in the melted cheese. Proper dry aged salami so that it lasts the trip and the cheese should be dry aged too, 'sharp' or 'vintage', cut in half and vacuum sealed. I am going with pumpkin seeds as they beat most nuts pound for pound and crushing them doesnt turn them into a butter type thing. Dinner; I am unsure what to do here. It wont be a heavy dinner it can be smaller than lunch. I am still pondering this one. Whatever I decide on will likely be a mix of the things I am already carrying. Possibly a mini pizza using the 6 inch flatbread."}
+{"text":"I'm 184cm, 32 and 78kg."}
+{"text":"Okay so everyday if you don't just lay in bed and move at all you burn around 2100 calories. For me I always try to run atleast a slight deficit on trips like this so your probably good if you can float somewhere between 2500-2700 a day with the activity level you've explained. Obviously you can run a deeper deficit for 10 days so don't worry if it seems unattainable I would just suggest trying to get atleast 2500 as you'll likely feel better and stronger for the entire trip that way."}
+{"text":"Also desu at 23bmi you could also eat a bunch the week before you go and get closer to 25bmi so you have more baseline to waste off."}
+{"text":"Thanks I was vaguely aiming at 3k I will work off 2.5k"}
+{"text":"If I'm going on a long trip I take meal replacement shakes. Might as well take the diet variety in fact, lose some weight while camping. They certainly feel like I'm eating something, not drinking something, and are packed with vitamins/minerals. I can chuck a bag of it in my pack and have 14 full meals for hardly any space/weight. Then when I return I look like the picture of health from the nutrition, exercise, fresh air and good forest sleep. I keep thinking maybe I'll try military rations but no real need."}
+{"text":"Been a while since we've had an EDC thread. What are some things you always carry with you? Got any new gear recently? Knife? Flashlight? Tactical spork? I've been wanting to put together a little edc first aid kit, not like my actual hiking first aid kit, just smaller things I might need on the day to day. But I havnt really settled on a pouch yet, or, if I should get a small plastic tupperware container because it's waterproof and I hear things like bandaids can get roughed up pretty easily in a pouch"}
+{"text":"please show your \"I love to rape\" patch from the most successful ideology of all times"}
+{"text":"Everything except the cigars fits in the wallet/EDC pouch"}
+{"text":"no tacticool knife do you even /out/?"}
+{"text":"Whatever happened to practicool instead of tacticool huh"}
+{"text":"I love being outdoors, love hunting camping hiking fishing, all of it. Been doing it all since a kid. But I have a huge problem with being scared of the dark. I'm alright as long as there's someone else with me, but when I'm alone out deep enough into the woods I can't help but be debilitatingly scared of the dark. It's so bad that I have to have my hand on my gun at all times once the sun goes down, I even piss in a bottle at night so I don't have to leave the tent. It's hard to sleep because I'm hyper alert to every sound, and as you know there are a lot of them at night. So my question is, has anyone else felt with this and how did you over come it?"}
+{"text":"It’s how you trap multiple homosexuals to have your way with"}
+{"text":"I only did it when it was too cold and I was too lazy to leave my tent"}
+{"text":"What do you mean"}
+{"text":"For me, it took more solo trips just to get over it. Basically you spent a few nights and nothing happens and you realize nothing is likely to happen and you calm down. Granted, it’s never as calm as in your own bed and depending on where you are and what you’re doing sometimes a little fear is warranted. Yeah, that’s probably not what you wanted to hear but it worked for me. Try doing shorter trips close to home and just practice the act of camping. Short trips are underrated anyways."}
+{"text":"Whisky/spiced rum"}
+{"text":"My girlfriend is from Michigan and she grew up fishing. She doesn't have her gear anymore, so I wanted to buy her something for her birthday coming up. I'm a hunter and have no fucking clue what to look at for poles; is there a solid generic thing you guys can recommend for a 120 lb girl?"}
+{"text":"get a spinning reel rod with a casting wieight between 5-40 grams and line bwtween ,25mm to ,35mm. thats the most universal setup you can get, with todays lines you can go to down to ,20 ish thickness and get the same breaking strength. the american standard of measuring breaking strenght is so much bullshit. a fishing reel can hold as much of a certain thickness line, that capacity is based on its thickness not on on its breaking strength. i want to know can my reel hold 200m of ,25? i dont want to know if it can hold x yards of x lbs."}
+{"text":"ask the dedicated thread"}
+{"text":"Spinning 7fter, light-medium (6/8lbs to 15 lbs line) As far as brands it really depends how much money you want to spend but if you're looking to spend as much as the pic in your op make sure it's made in the U.S. or Japan. Otherwise youre just over paying when you can get a good ugly stick or Shakespeare for a WAYYY better price"}
+{"text":"You are leaving too much infomation out. Did she use a spinning or casting rod? She is not going to like it if you get the wrong one. Also, what type of fish will she be targeting?"}
+{"text":"Did she use a spinning or casting rod? She is not going to like it if you get the wrong one. This. Keep the receipt."}
+{"text":"Thoughts? 5\" and brown handle"}
+{"text":"You inspired me somewhat. Had no idea they made knives, thought it was just carving tools. $39."}
+{"text":"Please purchase an advertisement, and post it in one of the 20 general gear threads."}
+{"text":"you vill live in ze pod you will use ze bic you will use ze garberg"}
+{"text":"resin Expound? Curious."}
+{"text":"This board told me to buy the morakniv bushcraft survival knife about 10 years ago and I did and it has been my abuse and bushcraft knife ever since."}
+{"text":"How the hell am I supposed to go /out/ and camp in Australia when I don't have a car, and the public transport is fucking atrocious? Any ausbros got any tips? I live in the Brisbane area"}
+{"text":"Race and genes determine predisposition to various factors, including mental illness, intelligence, physical specimenship, even neurology (most advanced of which is found in Europeans and some north Eurasians). Ideology further effects disposition, sometimes even more greatly than genes/race alone. But for example niggers are 10 times more likely to commit violence in the USA (but up to 40 times for certain age groups of negroid males), at least 5 times more likely to commit violence in the UK (but likewise up to 30 times more likely in certain age groups among males), and literally 15-100+ times more likely to commit violence in sub-saharan African countries than non-hispanic white people. Meaning, no matter where you put a sub-saharan African or its descendant, they will be extremely violent by nature (naturally uncivilized, and uncivilizable). Also for example, ashkenazi jews have one of the highest rates per capita of severe mental illness (schizophrenia) and mania. And genetically, ashkenazi jews are extremely mongrelized, having no less than 7 major male haplogroups from Afro-Eurasia and highly mixed mtDNA lineages, which also leads to other genetic defects like cardiovascular and autoimmune disorders. And ideologically; talmudic judaism (literally just judaism) openly calls for, advocates, and justifies the enslavement, murder, rape, torture, deceit and exploitation, and subversion of all non-jews, which is many steps farther than what islam calls for (rape, murder, enslavement, and overlordship over non-islamics)."}
+{"text":"You can walk Full moon setting in the Sonoran desert west of Yuma Az"}
+{"text":"Yes, because this is a troll thread. OP is acting helpless in every way possible because he's bored and wants everyone to dance for him like trained monkeys. Imagine what would happen to a person like OP if he actually ever went /out/. He'd be one of those people who died of exposure twenty feet from the trailhead in a suburban neighborhood."}
+{"text":"wants to camp. doesnt have thwir own transportation of any sort. Id suggest you get your life in order before picking up any hobbies."}
+{"text":"Here's your (You)"}
+{"text":"Is 450 CAD too much for a 100% wool anorak? everything is expensive these days it seems"}
+{"text":"Steinkauz in germany. Slightly felted and fulled doubleface with fleece jacket features."}
+{"text":"agreed on most everything here i can personally attest to WeatherWool being pretty damn durable can't say i'm bushwacking through mequite thickets or sliding my butt on asphalt roads but it has been plenty durable for any camping and hiking i've done additionally they're one of the few current makers of 100% wool denim, ever since i got my denim jeans from them i've constantly worn them or their (midweight) jacquard pants that i've had for the last year they are pricey but once you actually wear it and feel it you definitely see why it's worth it"}
+{"text":"You might as well get a used fur coat on eBay. I never understood the advantages of an anorak over a jacket desu."}
+{"text":"i always got mine from nz naturals or something like that. shipping wasn't bad or free but its been 5 years. i had to wait about 6 months on last sale but they discontinued a color and offered them for about half off then. sorry anon. there's probably some icelandic scandinavian manufacturer out there but its $$ to send overseas here usually from europe. Petros wool in ukraine is good if you're not looking for sweater. It's more like reverse engineered fleece (which ironically was made 50 years ago to mimic wool.) yeah i spoke to the owner and seems like a standup guy that would backup the product even if it failed."}
+{"text":"yeah i spoke to the owner and seems like a standup guy that would backup the product even if it failed he & his wife do saw a post where the wife offered to send some fabric to patch up sleeves on a dude's anorak that he'd been wearing the hell out of in alaska for 5+years"}
+{"text":"decide to go to South Korea to hike the mountains almost all of it is paved/planked pathways with guardrails that you just casually walk along all slope has stairs (worst than going up normal slopes imo) Don't make this mistake, go to Japan or China or something instead for east Asian hiking"}
+{"text":"Mfers really out here bitching about getting to travel to exotic countries saying it was 'le bad' because you came across a le heckn path"}
+{"text":"Did you not think to check that sort of shit before you went? Google could've told you most trails in Korea are paved."}
+{"text":"China is way worse, they have virtually no hiking or camping culture, \"nature tourism\" at least in Eastern China or if it's a popular enough spot in Western China will be artificial to the point that places feel more like a natural theme park than actual nature. Luckily unlike Korea China has plenty of amazing nature to spare, they can't get to all of it, especially in the western half. Pretty hard for foreigners to access western China though, especially for something like hiking and camping. Hiking is pretty popular in Korea though, it's sad that a lot of their most popular spots have excessive pavement but there's plenty of more natural areas and trails also. But it's not as pretty as Japan or Taiwan anyway."}
+{"text":"almost all of it is paved/planked pathways with guardrails that you just casually walk along all slope has stairs (worst than going up normal slopes imo) this sounds incredibly comfy and I hope America becomes this way more soon"}
+{"text":"he thinks he's getting peak tibetan experience not for you filthy piggu"}
+{"text":"I am retarded and I spend multiple hours fucking around trying to start a campfire until it starts burning. It's pretty much wet outside and temperatures go below freezing often. Birch bark works well to start it, but I want to figure out how to start without it. Tried feather sticks multiple times, but it takes a very long time and results are mixed at best. And yes, the wood is dry... As for carrying some firestarting material, I don't want to because autism. My latest idea was to split a log in half, and then with surform make enough wood shavings to start a fire, but no idea if this will work (pic related) Any advice on how to improve firestarting would be greatly appreciated"}
+{"text":"the ultimate firestarter is plastic. and it is almost everywhere. you can always find some plastic.shit . light it up and you will have a long lasting fire to use to light up the wood sticks. even if they are wet. even a.small plastic cup is enough . lighter and a plastic easy fire starter"}
+{"text":"Feathersticks from dead wood that hasn't fallen to the ground If you can't do it this way then you fail at /out/"}
+{"text":"Also you know to start with tinder, right? Tinder ignites kindling to establish coals that can be built up to bigger sticks"}
+{"text":"collect the lint from your dryer, store it in an airtight container and use as kindling, shit ignites from a single spark from your ferro rod"}
+{"text":"you need airtight container of some sort for something that might make an unexpected explosion Ya too bad gasoline is so volatile that only certified hazmat crews with specialized equipment are allowed to transport even minute quantities otherwise it could be such a helpful fuel and power source for modern society."}
+{"text":"Sup /out/, went camping (at a wilderness campsite) recently to try out some winter gear. Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, and the rewaterproofing on my tent held up really well. One issue I had, was that while there were plenty of big logs available, there was no tinder or kindling and I had to use my swiss army knife to baton massive pieces of firewood to start a fire. This was fucking atrocious work and I realise I need a good fixed blade knife. Now I've got it in my head to get a big knife or a hatchet, picrel is available in a very decent 6 inch blade and this beauty of a 10 inch blade. As much as I know 6 inch is probably fine, my gorilla brain is telling me to get this big fucking thing, then I don't even need a hatchet and can carry the SKA for small tasks/multitool. Convince me otherwise before I drop serious money on this thing."}
+{"text":"Buck 119"}
+{"text":"It sounds cumbersome but I use to travel with a big mace and it was exceptional at shattering logs into fire wood. One or two swings was usually enough to make a full stack."}
+{"text":"do you have a knife that works? then don't buy a new one. use the one you have until it breaks. quit buying shit, what are you a woman"}
+{"text":"This is all you need."}
+{"text":"I agree. They're monsters of knives."}
+{"text":"wyd when u gotta take a big smelly diarrhea in the woods"}
+{"text":"pop a codeine lol"}
+{"text":"Worst thing is the layers when it's cold. Last thing you want is shit on your pants because you are stuck only able to half crouch. I have had some adventures trying to spray shit in below freezing weather with nothing but a head lamp at 2 am. Shit on my boot, shit in my E took. Lucky no shit on my pants. Balls never got cold somehow."}
+{"text":"I shit in your river 35 minutes ago."}
+{"text":"Adding to my own post here. Even if you arnt a /k/ fag if you have stuff on your belt it's worth it to get an outer gun belt so your pants arnt attached to heavy shit. I have used an old GI Alice harness and that also worked but I also just like that system."}
+{"text":"predators can detect it and use the scent to track you down."}
+{"text":"With 2025 coming to an end, it's time for the yearly grid thread! Lets see what you've been up to.."}
+{"text":"The only real pictures we should be seeing are computer desks as we all know you fools don't actually go out."}
+{"text":"Still got time to cap off the year with another epic adventure"}
+{"text":"I was busy with studies for the first 4 months and I didn't go far in December, which was unusually warm"}
+{"text":"Yup, god damn natives lit so many fires they actually banned me from going outdoors for 90 days."}
+{"text":"Starting with Death Stranding (didn't play the second one yet)"}
+{"text":"Majula Currently have an injured knee so I cant go outside for a while, playing these games to simulate the feeling lol"}
+{"text":"Farcry 5 is my favourite out style game"}
+{"text":"Red Dead Redemption 1-2 The Hunter Call of the Wild The Forrest 1-2 Vintage Story I also like Rimworld with mods so I can roleplay as an American frontier colony."}
+{"text":"UnReal World is the bestest /out/ game"}
+{"text":"I've read it's too easy to buy a chink-made dupe of these knives. Are there any reputable places to buy an authentic one?"}
+{"text":"Yeah, a real dealer like bladehq, smkw, knivesshipfree, knifecenter. Never buy knives on Amazon or alibaba. You could always buy from the company's website too. A Carbone #8 is $22 on their official website."}
+{"text":"Thanks. I'll get one from the Opinel site. Stainless Steel or Carbon Steel?"}
+{"text":"IDK, I've had a carbon one for 10 years and completely neglect proper maintenance and it's fine, just has a patina."}
+{"text":"Why do so many people die hiking Mount Baldy? Because people from LA are retarded."}
+{"text":"How do I become one of them rangers like Aragorn? Reading The Lord of the Rings some of my favorite parts are the ones with Strider's show of skill. I love how he is completely aware of his surroundings and is able to instantly read footprints and use herbs and quickly make himself and his companions unseen and escape danger. At times he seemed more in tune with nature than even Legolas. I have seen quite a few threads on here of people being scared of the dark and I feel like if one had good old Strider's skill and knowledge he wouldn't be afraid no more. Aragorn wouldn't be startled in the middle of the forest by some bear, he would know about that mountain lion following him for the last 2 miles. He wouldn t get poisoned by some mushroom or die of hunger because he knows what is good and what is bad to eat. Strider wouldn't get lost in the forest since he has been drawing a 3d map in his head this entire time. How do I become more like Aragorn, obviously he has had 80 years of experience but what books would you recommend and things to do in the forest to become a little more like him"}
+{"text":"Keep in mind it was written by a guy who didn't know how to do any of that so its not realistic at all."}
+{"text":"like Aragorn? Be born of a mythical race that was descended from elves and angles and men."}
+{"text":"I'll do you one better, how do you find a purpose, go on quests and adventure like Aragorn and friends?"}
+{"text":"quests Aragorn went on a single quest, and it ended in a shit show."}
+{"text":"Wrong You clearly have cock envy"}
+{"text":"Okay, so i have like an exam in a very fae away city and i'm extremely fucking poor so i jusr have money to travel but staying in a hotel is out of the way Give me some great advice to look homeless or atleast places to sleep in"}
+{"text":"But if you approached the guard and just told them that you've got a five hour wait for your train Ok let's see your ticket or some proof that you have those plans ... Instant fail. Gaming cafes open 24/7 Don't exist in most cities You can beg anyone who's probably local and honest for a room, if nobody has ever asked them, they'll often say yes Things that will never happen. Literally the most delusional post I have read for a long time."}
+{"text":"under a picnic table, in a bush, alleyway, public park, gazebos, Sounds like a good way to be fucked up by druggies and thugs Wouldn't it be easier to ask someone for a place to sleep?"}
+{"text":"There is something less depressing about sleeping in caves and forests than in those urban hellholes"}
+{"text":"Dude this channel looks lit! Thank you for sharing Anon! I am watching him now!"}
+{"text":"You did go /out/ this year, didn't you? inb4 he stayed /in/"}
+{"text":"Template"}
+{"text":"We already have this thread. Check the catalog before posting, idiot."}
+{"text":"You take creature with you /out/ ?? Yayy I do that too !! I don't got out nearly that much, but I almost always bring a small creature along"}
+{"text":"Learn to read"}
+{"text":"snow November through July"}
+{"text":"What bottles do you like the best for re-use when hiking/doing outdoors stuff?"}
+{"text":"I've worked years in various out jobs in different agencies in backcountry, like search and rescue and trail crew and wilderness work and everyone I've ever worked with uses nalgenes (or other brand equivalent) or metal."}
+{"text":"dollar tree everything costs $1.25 wtf?"}
+{"text":"good idea"}
+{"text":"BASED. Use your shit until it breaks before buying a replacement."}
+{"text":"I got an all metal US Army style canteen because I'm a larping faggot that I definitely overpaid for but it makes me happy to use it. Plus it comes with a built in cup that has handles. I like it even if it makes me look autistic."}
+{"text":"Where can I go out in Texas besides Big Bend? I am from upstate New York so am used to the Adirondacks."}
+{"text":"Lol imagine a red man calling you whiny. These niggers never invented the wheel and got beaten at every turn and still claim supremacy. Where was a whining tonto?"}
+{"text":"watching youtube to learn history"}
+{"text":"I am surprised nobody has mentioned Guadalupe Mountains National Park. It contains the highest mountain in Texas which is easily hiked (less than 9,000 feet). Added bonus: it's quite near to Carlsbad Caverns National Park in New Mexico, which is simply spectacular. (Photo here is not my own.)"}
+{"text":"If you want to get out in central Texas get into rock climbing."}
+{"text":"When i look in google maps its seems all the forestry is in the SE side of texas, so maybe look there. Sabine national forest looks nice"}
+{"text":"Anyone here ever go /out/ in restricted/illegal areas? Any advice for accessing these spaces? Pictured: North Brother Island, NYC"}
+{"text":"just go and claim to be homeless; it's new york"}
+{"text":"nice try FBI"}
+{"text":"This always gets me. Especially for those \"right to roam\" eurofags. Its always people who dont own anything that have the belief everything should be made available to them. Except for the things they use. My 40 acres is mine to do with as I please. You dont pay taxes on it so gtfo. If I want to let that little hollow get overgrown and become a rattlesnake den then thats whats happening. If I want to go through it, gas the rattlers and skin them then that will happen."}
+{"text":"I’ve taken a kayak with my brother, a friend, and camped on this island off the coast of Lake Michigan in Wilderness State Park. It’s restricted but it’s easy to get away with going there if you got the right equipment."}
+{"text":"Do mosquito bed nets like the ones given out by organizations like against malaria foundation help people sleep better or make them more comfortable? Or is the only benefit that they help save lives by making people less likely to get malaria? The long-lasting insecticidal nets (LLINs) provided by the Against Malaria Foundation are high-tech protective shields made from durable polyethylene or polyester fibers specifically engineered to survive harsh tropical environments for three to four years. These nets are far more than a physical barrier; the fabric is either impregnated or coated with WHO-prequalified insecticides, such as pyrethroids, which kill or repel malaria-carrying *Anopheles* mosquitoes on contact. This insecticide is designed to be wash-resistant, remaining effective for up to twenty manual washes, while the specific mesh size is precisely calibrated to balance cooling airflow with impenetrable protection against even the smallest insects. >Because these nets are family-sized, each one typically protects two individuals often a mother and child and by killing mosquitoes throughout the night, they create a \"community effect\" that reduces the overall mosquito density in the area, providing an extra layer of safety for the entire village even during the day."}
+{"text":"b-b-b-but my studies!"}
+{"text":"They can't even produce their own mosquito netting so they don't die from malaria? I'm not surprised, but still, ffs man. What a shitty, bottom of the barrel \"race\"."}
+{"text":"Wait, wtf is wrong with worm bin compost? That's a bit of a stretch giving the multiple other things you could do?"}
+{"text":"Funny how despite all of the millions upon millions of malaria nets sent to Africa annually that definitely, totally aren't being misused, the incidence rates of malaria in sub-saharan Africa have barely budged. Amazing how everywhere else has seen significant declines in Malaria cases except for sub-saharan Africa. But I'm sure that's not a knock against those rigorous surveys by charity organizations dependent on continued donations for their survival."}
+{"text":"Im an adult who myself has never been able to afford much in terms of camping gear, but my mom has quite a lot of money and I think she wants to buy me something nice. Does anyone have recommendations for gear, (cold weather gear in particular)? Pad, sleep system, tent, bag, etc; I dont know if Ill get a chance like this again and am trying to make it count. Pic related I want to do cold weather stuff soon."}
+{"text":"Merino wool everything, socks leggings, shirts. I spend my winters skiing every day and a good base layer of merino goes a long way."}
+{"text":"boots. don't listen to any other advice. if your feet are wet and cold, fuck everything else. merino everything is good too, but boots."}
+{"text":"why do bears eat quarters?"}
+{"text":"Hi there. I'm a 47 year old man and I've spent most of my life in the woods. I'll gladly help you with gear but first I need a photo of your mom."}
+{"text":"Well played."}
+{"text":"Any TN anons out there? Know any good /out/ spots in the great volunteer state? Personally I am looking for some spots in Eastern TN in the Nooga area, want to go on a day hike, camp overnight and do some plinking. Was thinking of the pocket wilderness in Dayton, but idk their rules on guns and camping overnight. Anyone else been having fun getting out in the mountains?"}
+{"text":"I dont think I've heard of rattlesnake point. Around where is it at?"}
+{"text":"If the illegal entry way is the one he immediately thinks of then thats probably just one that be reached by foot. With these plateaus out here you honestly really might need to do some bouldering. Get some pics when you go anon!"}
+{"text":"anon, im not going, it's illegal and I don't even know exactly where it is or it could be overgrown it just makes me angry they don't fix up these views that people have enjoyed in the past"}
+{"text":"Hunting season is upon the northern hemisphere what are you hunting this year? any changes in gear? any interesting stories from last year?"}
+{"text":"Actually can anyone recommend me resources to learn and train as a hunter ? I mean I could go out in the wilderness and try to figure it out myself, but are there any books or videos on the subject ? I haven't seen \"educated hunters\" whether irl on online, just guys who go out with a gun and a permit and shoot (sometimes coordinating with each other)"}
+{"text":"Meateater is a pretty good resource for newbies"}
+{"text":"thanks G"}
+{"text":"Mossberg 590S Magpul in FDE, comes threaded for chokes choke tubes + any shotshell compatibility (below 3.5\") would this work as a multiuse shotgun for home defense, backpacking, hunting etc.? I'm thinking of getting this, or an old over-under and using that as a dedicated hunting shotty"}
+{"text":"heres mine time was about 3 weeks ago was fishing at the river behind my house and had a decent fishing day except for one moment was drinking with my rican friend who brought some ribs and casting for catfish i had like about 85 yards out and felt a rumble so im like ill wait for a hit on the hook and then run back and shit well about 10 minutes goes by and its grtting worse like channeling energy to my sphincter i say fuck that im gonna lose it and start reeeling in my line now im struggling to hold this flow in reeling in on a 12 foot pole on 40 lb test with a 4oz weight(nriver has some deep black mud), i knew it was gonna be a bad one god knows 8 seconds into the retreival im probably 40 feet from shore i get a MASSIVE strike and then it happened the force of the fish hitting my hook plus my stance, it must have looked absurb. mind you now, i am wearing swimtrunks (no net) and all this happens in less than a second i instinctely threw back my rod for the hook land, and in the same action release my bowels Comment too long. Click here to view the full text."}
+{"text":"He shit in a deep planter box, where nobody is going to step. No point in using a bag. Dogs just shit wherever they want, that’s why it’s the law for their owners to clean it up (they do it for free) and the ones who don’t are assholes. Most people are at least smart enough to poop somewhere off the beaten trail, so to speak. Even in nature, I roll over a big rock, blast it into the hole, and roll the rock back."}
+{"text":"Perhaps any female hikers would like to share? :-)"}
+{"text":"Can confirm,I dont clean my dogs shit, am an asshole otherwise"}
+{"text":"Day hiking in below freezing weather, snow everywhere. Have to shit, feels like diarrhea. I’m not going to make it to a McDonalds or a gas station. Nobody around, not even dog walkers. Go off far enough I can’t see the trail anymore. Find a small clearing surrounded by bushes for cover and drop a big pile. It’s not diarrhea after all, just a huge pile shaped like a classic turd emoji. Wipe with snow. Do not recommend. About two days later, back on the same trail. Decide to go have a look. It’s been in the teens all week. Expect to find a frosted shitpile. It’s gone, MacReady. My footprints and various animal tracks are all that can be found. My shit is gone. Some animal ate my shit."}
+{"text":"cover up my leavings my leavings leavings Holee shit anon. That is fucking awesome and hilarious."}
+{"text":"be me Practice charting time. take a lot of time taking measurements around my basement. Take measurements back to charting table. Absolutely fucked. Repeat measurements repeat charting. Still fucked. Drop pen in frustration North changes. That was several hours of my life."}
+{"text":"Daily reminder that wood toothed nigga named his last ditch defensive point \"fort nessisary\" with the only locked door being on the liquor shack."}
+{"text":"He's just like me"}
+{"text":"Sorry for off-topic but where can a European get himself a legit Cammenga 3H compass? Everything seems to be fake including \"\"\"their\"\"\" Amazon store."}
+{"text":"He was part of the British regiment that fired the first shots of the war at the French."}
+{"text":"Not off topic at all. Idk but now I want to look into that question."}