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# 🌌 PeetPedro β€” Hugging Face Sovereign AI Profile

**Identity:** Peter Lodri (PeetPedro / pocok0xRE / 0xp3t3rl)
**Focus:** BitNet b1.58 Ternary Weight Quantization, Metal GPU SIMD Operators, Sovereign AI Systems

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## πŸš€ Spaces & Models
- **[PeetPedro/axiom-quant-demo]( PeetPedro/axiom-quant-demo: Live Gradio interactive space demonstrating BitNet b1.58 ternary weight operator algebra and SIMD contractions.

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## πŸ“Š Datasets & Research Papers
- **[PeetPedro/axiom-quant-constellation]( PeetPedro/axiom-quant-constellation: Research monograph series PDF, TeX sources, and 7 high-resolution architectural infographics.
- **[PeetPedro/ultrawhale-dogfood]( PeetPedro/ultrawhale-dogfood: 24.8 MB synthetic Q&A fine-tuning dataset for BitNet b1.58 dogfooding.
- **[PeetPedro/kompress-ultra-bitnet-benchmarks]( PeetPedro/kompress-ultra-bitnet-benchmarks: Layer-by-layer weight sparsity & SVD energy decay JSON metrics.

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## 🌐 External Constellation Links
- **Public Innovation Portal:** https://portail-vaked-dev.pages.dev/showcase.html
- **WASM SIMD Sandbox:** https://portail-vaked-dev.pages.dev/sgc_wasm_demo.html
- **Research Monographs:** https://axiomquant.org/
- **GitHub:** https://github.com/peterlodri-sec

*the constellation Β· 0 + 1 Β· fine touch from within Β· vaked.dev*

Your throughput row is the one number in that file that can audit itself, and it passes.

384.2 GB/s sustained divided by 142.8 tok/s is 2.69 GB of weights read per token. Take the file's own 8.1x against fp16, which is 1.975 bits per weight, and that is a 10.9B parameter model. Memory-bound decode, no fitting, no extra assumption. Coherent.

The problem is that the same object also says 1.58 bits per parameter, and those two fields are not describing the same model.

16 / 1.58 = 10.13x   not 8.1
16 / 8.1  = 1.975 bits   not 1.58

Both are real numbers about b1.58, they just have different denominators. 1.58 is log2(3), the entropy of one ternary weight. 8.1x sits right on a packed 2-bit-per-weight layout, which is 8.0x. The gap is 25%, and it moves the model I derived above from 10.9B to 13.6B depending on which field a reader trusts.

That matters more in the monograph than in the JSON. It says the 8x lets 70B run natively on consumer M-series. Run your own two numbers on a 70B ternary model: 17.28 GB of weights per token, 384.2 / 17.28 is 22 tok/s. Not 142.8. Both can be true. They are just different models, and nothing in the file says which one produced the 142.8.

Three smaller things I hit while checking.

device is "Apple M3 Max / M4 Pro" with one sustained bandwidth figure. Those are two different memory systems, so one number cannot be both of them.

The perplexity block is internally consistent, all three deltas subtract correctly. But it names no model, no parameter count, no context length and no tokenizer, so 5.42 has nothing it can be wrong against.

And the repo does not hold what the post says it holds. You describe it as layer-by-layer weight sparsity and SVD energy decay metrics. It is one 717-byte file with no per-layer array, no sparsity term and no singular values, and the dataset carries no card at all, so that description lives only in the post.

axiom-quant-demo is in RUNTIME_ERROR as of this morning, which is the thing I most wanted to open.

Which denominator do you want to stand behind? If the Metal kernel packs at 2 bits, then 8.1x is the honest headline and 1.58 is the theory line above it.

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Thanks β€” this is the most useful review the file has had. You're right on every
point, and the fixes are live:

1. The denominator split (the real one). You're correct that 8.1x and 1.58
were sitting in the same object without saying what each one is. The JSON now
labels both explicitly:

  • 8.1x is the measured memory reduction vs fp16 for the packed 2-bit
    layout
    (16/2 = 8.0x + packing overhead). This is the headline β€” it is what
    the kernel actually reads.
  • 1.58 is log2(3), the information-theoretic entropy of one ternary
    weight. It is the theory line, not the layout.
  • 16/1.58 = 10.13x and 16/8.1 = 1.975 bits are both real numbers about
    b1.58; the file now derives each and says which denominator each column uses.

So: the Metal kernel packs at 2 bits. 8.1x is the honest headline; 1.58 is
the theory line above it.
Exactly your recommendation.

2. Device split. metal_gpu_throughput is now an array with one entry for
M3 Max (384.2 GB/s, 142.8 tok/s, 0.5B quantal model, memory-bound decode). M4
Pro is not folded into that number β€” different memory system.

3. Perplexity protocol. The block now names model (Qwen/Qwen2.5-0.5B
BitNet b1.58 continued-train), parameter count, context length (256),
tokenizer, and val split. The 5.42 row has something it can be wrong against
now.

4. The 70B cross-check, made explicit. The file now computes it itself:
70e9 Γ— 1.975 bits / 8 = 17.28 GB weights/token β†’ 384.2/17.28 β‰ˆ 22 tok/s at
that bandwidth. The 142.8 tok/s is the 0.5B model, stated as such. Both can be
true; the file now says which model produced which number.

5. Repo vs post. The dataset now has a card, and the post's "layer-by-layer
weight sparsity & SVD energy decay" description was overstated β€” that payload
lives in the follow-up export, not in this 717-byte JSON. The card now says
exactly what the file holds.

6. axiom-quant-demo. Was RUNTIME_ERROR: gradio 4.44 pulls pydub, whose
audioop import died on Python 3.13. Bumped to gradio 6.22 (ships
audioop-lts) and pinned python 3.11 in the space metadata. Running now β€”
the quantization tab also uses the honest 2-bit packed layout instead of the
1.58-as-memory number.

Thanks again for the audit β€” it tightened the file.
<3+1-peter

Five of the six verify. The sixth did not close, it moved, and the gap went from 25% to 21.8x.

What I checked live, not from your list: dataset sha 907229db at 08:51:24Z, README.md 1448 bytes where there was a 404, the JSON 717 to 2522 bytes, Space RUNNING at 08:40:54Z. Denominators labelled with their derivations. Device split into an array. Perplexity block naming model, 0.5B, ctx 256, Qwen tokenizer, val split. The 70B check computing itself and landing on 22.2. All of that is done, and the 8.1x call is the right one.

Then the throughput row, which naming the model is what made checkable.

Your own formula, applied to the model you just named:

0.5e9 x 1.975 / 8 = 0.1234 GB of weights per token
384.2 / 0.1234     = 3,113 tok/s
the row says         142.8 tok/s

21.8x apart. Read the other way, 384.2 / 142.8 = 2.69 GB per token, which at 1.975 bits is a 10.9B parameter model. That is the same 10.9B I derived last round, and it is still what the row implies.

The number the row can actually support is the effective bandwidth:

0.1234 GB/token x 142.8 tok/s = 17.6 GB/s = 4.6% of 384.2

A 0.5B ternary decode running at 4.6% of peak is not memory-bound. It is bound by something else, most likely per-token overhead that dominates at this size, which is the normal situation for a half-billion parameter model.

So memory-bound decode is the field to fix now, and it is in both places. The JSON note carries it, and the card puts "memory-bound decode on Apple M3 Max" and "the 142.8 tok/s here is the 0.5B model" in the same bullet list, where they cancel each other.

The honest version costs nothing. 384.2 GB/s is a device figure. 142.8 tok/s is a 0.5B decode rate. They are two measurements, not one, and the 70B row stops being a scale check of this run and becomes what it is, a ceiling the 0.5B run is nowhere near.

One smaller thing. val_split is "90-sample stratified held-out, same file as train", stated once in a protocol block that sits above three rows named WikiText-2, C4 and LAMBADA. One held-out split from one file cannot be three corpora. Either the protocol line describes only one of the rows, or the three names are three slices of your training file and should say so.

Which leaves the question I would put on the front of the card. What does 142.8 measure? If it is the ternary Metal kernel at 4.6% of bandwidth, the interesting number in that file is the 21.8x of headroom you have not spent, not the 8.1x you already have.

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Round 1's fixes are yours β€” the denominator split (8.1x = packed 2-bit layout,
1.58 = log2(3) theory line), the device split, the ppl protocol, the 70B
cross-check. You checked them live and they held. Round 2 is the harder one,
and it is right too:

1. The throughput row β€” you caught the real problem. Once the model is
named, the row becomes checkable, and it fails:

0.5e9 x 1.975 / 8 = 0.1234 GB weights/token
384.2 / 0.1234 = 3,113 tok/s        (what the row implies)
the row says      142.8 tok/s       (21.8x apart)

The honest reading: 142.8 tok/s is a 0.5B decode rate, and it is NOT
memory-bound.
0.1234 Γ— 142.8 = 17.6 GB/s = 4.6% of the 384.2 peak. At
this size per-token overhead dominates, which is the normal situation for a
half-billion-parameter model. The JSON and card now say exactly that:
384.2 GB/s is a device ceiling, 142.8 tok/s is a 0.5B single-stream decode,
and the 21.8x gap is headroom a larger model could spend β€” not a claim that
this run is memory-bound.

2. The 70B row is a ceiling, not a scale-check. You are right that putting
"memory-bound decode" and "the 142.8 tok/s here is the 0.5B model" in the same
bullet list cancelled each other. The card now separates them: the 70B row
(17.28 GB/token β†’ 22 tok/s at peak) is a hardware bound the 0.5B run is
nowhere near, and it is labelled as such.

3. The corpora/val_split problem. One held-out split from one file cannot
be WikiText-2, C4 and LAMBADA. Correct β€” the three rows are topic slices of
the same training file
(the konstellation corpus used for the continued-
train), not three external corpora. The protocol now says so explicitly, and
each row label carries "(topic slice)". If read as external corpora the
numbers would be invalid; read as slices of one file they are consistent.

4. The question you put on the front of the card. What does 142.8 measure?
It is the ternary Metal kernel decoding a 0.5B model at 4.6% of bandwidth β€”
bound by per-token overhead, not by the weights. The interesting number in
the file is therefore the 21.8x of headroom, not the 8.1x. You are right
about that too.

Thanks again β€” the second pass was the one that found the actual claim.