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<div class="wrap">
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<h1>KingJones</h1>
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<p class="lede">Quantizing large models for hardware most people don't benchmark on —
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and publishing the results that <em>didn't</em> work.</p>
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<span class="pill">Ryzen AI Max+ 395</span>
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<span class="pill">Strix Halo · gfx1151</span>
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<span class="pill">Radeon 8060S</span>
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<span class="pill">ROCm 7.2.4</span>
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<span class="pill">128 GB unified</span>
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<span class="pill">NVFP4 · NVIDIA</span>
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<div class="stats">
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<div class="stat"><b>18</b><span>repositories</span></div>
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<div class="stat"><b>846</b><span>GiB published</span></div>
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<div class="stat"><b>14</b><span>base models</span></div>
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<div class="stat"><b>13</b><span>ROCmFP4 builds</span></div>
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</div>
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<h2>What I actually found</h2>
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<p>ROCmFP4 does <span class="rule">not</span> universally speed up decode. That's the
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most useful thing I can tell you, and it took four builds and one discarded model
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to learn it.</p>
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<thead><tr>
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<th>Model</th><th>Architecture</th><th class="num">Active</th>
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<th class="num">Decode, short ctx</th><th class="num">Decode, long ctx</th><th>Verdict</th>
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<tr><td>Laguna-S-2.1 118B-A8B</td><td><code>laguna</code></td><td class="num">~8B</td>
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<td class="num win">+62.6%</td><td class="num win">+43.6%</td><td>ship it</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Step-3.7-Flash 198B MoE</td><td><code>step35</code></td><td class="num">~11B</td>
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<td class="num win">+18%</td><td class="num win">+20%</td><td>ship it</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Leanstral-1.5 119B-A6B</td><td><code>deepseek2</code> · MLA</td><td class="num">~6.5B</td>
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<td class="num">+1.5%</td><td class="num loss">−8.2%</td><td>size only</td></tr>
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<tr><td>KAT-Coder-V2.5-Dev 35B-A3B</td><td>hybrid linear</td><td class="num">~3B</td>
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<td class="num">+12%</td><td class="num loss">−37%</td><td><strong>discarded</strong></td></tr>
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<p>The builds that gained were the ones pushing more active parameters through the
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FP4 FFN kernels. MLA and hybrid-linear attention shift work <em>away</em> from that
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path and gained nothing — one regressed badly as context grew.</p>
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<div class="note">
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<p><strong>Benchmarking at one context length will lie to you.</strong> KAT-Coder
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looks like a 12% win at short context. At long context it's 37% slower. I nearly
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shipped it.</p>
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<p><strong>Attention type and active-param count are confounded in this sample.</strong>
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Four data points is a hypothesis, not a proof. I'd rather it be tested than believed.</p>
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<h2>How I measure</h2>
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<p>Numbers are worth exactly as much as the discipline behind them.</p>
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<li><strong>Equal generation length</strong> — every run emits exactly 256 tokens with
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<code>ignore_eos</code>. Comparing tok/s across runs with different token counts is
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meaningless; one early run of mine was soft because a baseline stopped after 4 tokens.</li>
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<li><strong>Nonce-prefixed prompts</strong> — every prompt opens with a fresh UUID so the
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prefix cache can't serve a seen prefix and inflate prefill. <code>cached_tokens</code>
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is recorded each run so you can check it was 0. I caught a contaminated campaign this way.</li>
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<li><strong>Two context lengths minimum</strong> — see KAT-Coder.</li>
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<li><strong>One model resident, cold-loaded, three runs, median</strong> — on 128 GB
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unified memory two large models won't coexist, and a half-swapped model produces noise.</li>
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<li><strong>Failures published</strong> — OOM, crash and regression get a row in the
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table, not a deletion. Where a run shared the machine with other traffic, the card
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says the ordering is reliable but the exact ratios aren't.</li>
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<h2>The builds</h2>
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<h3>ROCmFP4 — AMD Strix Halo</h3>
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<p>Requires the <a href="https://github.com/charlie12345/ROCmFPX">ROCmFPX fork</a>.
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These will not load in stock llama.cpp, Ollama or LM Studio.</p>
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<thead><tr><th>Model</th><th>Base</th><th class="num">Repo size</th><th>Contents</th></tr></thead>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Muse-Glimmer-30B-ROCmFP4-Strix-Halo-DFlash-GGUF">Muse-Glimmer-30B</a></td><td>meta-models</td><td class="num">63.0 GiB</td><td>4 variants · drafter · vision</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Laguna-S-2.1-ROCmFP4-STRIX_LEAN-GGUF">Laguna-S-2.1</a></td><td>poolside</td><td class="num">58.3 GiB</td><td>STRIX_LEAN</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Leanstral-1.5-119B-A6B-ROCmFP4-STRIX_LEAN-GGUF">Leanstral-1.5-119B-A6B</a></td><td>mistralai</td><td class="num">59.0 GiB</td><td>STRIX_LEAN</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Step-3.7-Flash-ROCmFP4-STRIX_LEAN-GGUF">Step-3.7-Flash</a></td><td>stepfun-ai</td><td class="num">101.4 GiB</td><td>STRIX_LEAN · vision</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-180B-ROCmFP4-STRIX_LEAN-GGUF">DeepSeek-V4-Flash-180B</a></td><td>deepseek-ai</td><td class="num">181.7 GiB</td><td>2 variants</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731-ROCmFP4">DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731</a></td><td>deepseek-ai</td><td class="num">100.4 GiB</td><td>ROCmFP4</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Qwen3-Next-80B-A3B-Instruct-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF">Qwen3-Next-80B-A3B</a></td><td>Qwen</td><td class="num">39.7 GiB</td><td>STRIX</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/BTL-4-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF">BTL-4</a></td><td>badtheorylabs</td><td class="num">18.2 GiB</td><td>STRIX · vision</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/North-Mini-Code-1.0-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF">North-Mini-Code-1.0</a></td><td>CohereLabs</td><td class="num">15.3 GiB</td><td>STRIX</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/GLM-4.7-Flash-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF">GLM-4.7-Flash</a></td><td>zai-org</td><td class="num">14.9 GiB</td><td>STRIX</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Instella-ToolCall-16B-A3B-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF">Instella-ToolCall-16B-A3B</a></td><td>amd</td><td class="num">8.0 GiB</td><td>STRIX</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Instella-MoE-16B-A3B-Think-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF">Instella-MoE-16B-A3B-Think</a></td><td>amd</td><td class="num">7.9 GiB</td><td>STRIX</td></tr>
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<h3>NVFP4 — NVIDIA</h3>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Ling-3.0-flash-NVFP4-SGLang-MTP">Ling-3.0-flash</a></td><td>inclusionAI</td><td class="num">75.8 GiB</td><td>SGLang · MTP working</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Frontis-MA1-35B-NVFP4">Frontis-MA1-35B</a></td><td>FrontisAI</td><td class="num">23.3 GiB</td><td>with MTP</td></tr>
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<tr><td><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777/Macaron-V1-Tall-NVFP4">Macaron-V1-Tall</a></td><td>mindlab-research</td><td class="num">23.3 GiB</td><td>MTP · LoRA-compatible</td></tr>
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<h2>Things that cost me time, so they don't cost you any</h2>
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<li><strong>A vision port can compile cleanly and be completely wrong.</strong>
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Muse Glimmer needs per-layer sparse-window attention masks. Drop them and the build
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works, runs, and describes images fluently and incorrectly. A four-quadrant colour
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test catches it — a broken mask names the colours right and puts them in the wrong
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corners. "Describe this image" does not catch it.</li>
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<li><strong>Per-token acceptance is the wrong metric for a block drafter.</strong>
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DFlash proposes 15 tokens per pass; ~21% acceptance sounds broken and actually means
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~4.13 tokens landing per target pass, which is healthy. Read tokens-per-pass.</li>
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<li><strong>A higher acceptance rate can be slower.</strong> n-gram speculation hit
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42.9% acceptance against DFlash's 21% and ran 45% slower, because it proposes far
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fewer tokens per pass.</li>
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<li><strong>Check what else is on the box.</strong> An identical request measured 40s
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on a quiet machine and 118s while another model was resident. Contention will invent
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a result and hand it to you with a straight face.</li>
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<h2>Credit</h2>
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<p>The ROCmFP4 / ROCmFPX tensor formats are <strong>not my work</strong> — they're
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<a href="https://github.com/charlie12345">charlie12345</a> / <code>caf</code>'s
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<a href="https://github.com/charlie12345/ROCmFPX">ROCmFPX</a> fork of llama.cpp, with
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contributions from <code>ciru-ai</code>, Tom Turney, <code>PlunderStruck</code> and
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Aydan S. Every ROCmFP4 file here was produced with their quantizer and runs on their
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runtime. If these builds are useful to you, star that repo.</p>
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<p>Built on <a href="https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp">llama.cpp</a> and
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<a href="https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm">AMD ROCm</a>. All base model weights, licences
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and capabilities belong to their original authors — I contribute quantisation and
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measurement only.</p>
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<p><a href="https://huggingface.co/kingjones777">All models on Hugging Face</a> ·
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<a href="https://github.com/kingjones30/strix-halo-quant-lab">Benchmark harness & raw results</a></p>
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<p>If you reproduce one of these builds on your own hardware, please open a discussion
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on the model — independent numbers are worth more than another round of mine.</p>
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