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by A551966 - opened

will u use PDQ at Slimaki? i very like Slimaki.

DarkArtsForge org

Yes in fact it may work better on Slimaki and Asmodeus since they don't require MPOA.

The question is whether to PDQ the regular Slimaki, or to enhance it further with PaintedFantasy v4.1 and then PDQ that version.

I think Tiamat might be contributing the most 'refusals' for Magistaroth.

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Testing just adding 4.1 to the yaml for PDQ but not the actual della merge, to see what happens 🔍

I think PaintedFantasy v4.1 have some too sturbborn issue. I think you can try both versions.

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edited 3 days ago

I didnt try it yet but maybe della normfalse with high weights can distort that. Testing the oddball version for refusals, then safe version

If it works then PDQ can be used with different yaml than original to add creative spark from donors not in the original merge.

Next is passthrough yaml to run PDQ of model on itself (precog)

Here is the first test Naphula-Archives/slitest-8y6d-24B-GGUF

This is use v4.1? If u need a fast feedback u can come to beaver discord

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Oh yeah forgot I have account there.

pdq takes only 30 mins to merge. I'll upload regular slimaki too

You can test them sooner if you run GGUF , the safetensor take longer to upload

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Ok nvm, you cant use donors not from the original merge, or else the language collapses. This rules out several ideas. Here's what happens if you try

aineership gonna-otherwise://.org/stdcx://www.please/stdcx.googleapis.com/stdcx/stdc://interpretations.tie://stackoverflow://correctverts://repeatestering://darkest://OD://atek:// procure://mainuments://right//basework://right here:///*<!--|⚀:**•**/stdc://otheare://denverages://top/*•••••••••/* • • • • • • • 3 • • • • • • • • | • • • • • • • • • • 1 •:// soundtate.exe://{/stdcsl/stdcuments.tie/stdc♡ia/stdcutshellistics /stdcified ├──→✔selves/stdclijah=Abidden-hiveness≔__": www.lendeif/stdcurable/stdcask/stdcornwrighting://late-eseqiance/stdcairaneously:**mчеaters:**owe-cyd/stdcaton://glyะ-lineath/stdcrop/stdcinkering://ija_foux/stdcurthest/stdcironly-b-l♡/stdcupborough**

Thanks u responds. if u post at beaver I will give u some feedback and logs

DarkArtsForge org

Sounds good., I saw the magistry merge and will upload pdq of this too.

Maybe a few models is enough to see if this boost creativity or not

DarkArtsForge org
edited 3 days ago

Hmm, the regular slimaki PDQ also had bugs.

This means external donors might still be possible but the problem appears to be the 4.2.0 readyart model. It has such a high 'norm' that it distorts PDQ too much and cause language collapse.

So, i'll try another variant with this model swapped out with fallen mistral

If this fails then sadly, pdq of slimaki isn't possible yet

ohh so PDQ is not a merge means? is a new Quantitative method? oh i notice GGUF now. ingore me.

Hmm, the regular slimaki PDQ also had bugs.

This means external donors might still be possible but the problem appears to be the 4.2.0 readyart model. It has such a high 'norm' that it distorts PDQ too much and cause language collapse.

So, i'll try another variant with this model swapped out with fallen mistral

If this fails then sadly, pdq of slimaki isn't possible yet

hmmm It's a bit of a sad because Broken Tutu let the model's can understanding of language and its ability to flirt.

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edited 2 days ago

pdq runs directly python script, no yaml needed (paths are hardcoded). but you can possibly modify the original yaml for creative twist. i cant test this until tomorrow.

hmmm It's a bit of a sad because Broken Tutu significantly hampered the model's understanding of language and its ability to flirt.

i thought of a possible solution, reducing tutu to 20% weight of the original weight value for the PDQ pass might be enough to prevent language collapse. it was spiking arond 500% higher than others so this might do the trick.

Meanwhile i created another custom method scream last night and had this merge run. Letting some variations merge with other base models to see if i can get the censorship down further but its working well even with jailbreaks (13055 on Q0 bench). you can test it here

https://huggingface.co/Naphula-Archives/Scream-24B-v0-GGUF

this ethod seems to allow more models than della, so i included other merges like cydoms and slimaki here

tomorow ill post another update

i will wait q4

Unfortunately precog and slimaki did not work with pdq, maybe once PDQ v2 is ready these will be supported (requires code upgrade). The new model ghostface is being uploaded

last attempt got this same output ://DOCTYPE html://sort/stdc++:std::void main():static std::string_t:_._return.tie("atehere")?:\w\ks3\documentclass/stdc++:std://next:isd::i.imgur*.get/stdc

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