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[K]: I’d win
[G]: I got my Powerbalance FoW'd yesterday. I go T1 Plateau + Pitch
Monkey and they go "Nah, I've heard about this" lol. @K they don't let
me have nothin'
[T]: who was it
[G]: Kaden lol.
[G]: I just added Monkey and ESG (because I didn't have the other cards
on me) and was like "Aw ye".
[G]: Kaden let T2 Yasharn resolve but not Powerbalance.
[T]: i just realized i never proxied the eniris deck for august
[T]: wanted to surprise everyone at the local meta
[G]: Bro you still got a month. Proxy it up and start getting reps in.
[T]: by the time it got here from china the event would be over, my
current mpc order barely makes it here
[G]: Hit up Kinko's and get some color prints.
[T]: that shit wouldve been so funny though considering i’ve got
everyone moved to commanders that need to be on board to finish
[T]: i got like 6/7 local players to move to kenny or other outlet
commanders, wouldve been fun to show up with gruul control
[T]: no displacer kitten or commander for kaden, no sisay to chain,
dockside dies so the 3 local roccos cant recur easily
[T]: free wins
[G]: We might not be *that* surprised. Alex is on Jeska...black artifact
thing, and it's very good at blowing everything up.
[G]: He went that into Magus of the Moon.
[G]: Yes, that.
[G]: Jeska Armix. It was very good at controlling the board and seems to
mull very well.
[T]: i think i wanna pop up with derevi
[T]: good job removing my derevi. endstep pay 4?
[G]: Mmm Derevi. There was a new player who was trying that out over
here. Seemed interesting but he'd probably be Punter 0
[T]: 💀
[N]: Btw Spellskite is king, everytime it's on the battlefield, it's so
good at protecting my stuff
100% would have lost without it this last game (and many games before
that). Being able to eat a removal is so nice
[N]: Strongly suggest adding it, especially in a non tournament meta,
where people still have interaction to disrupt others and aren't that
greedy
[I]: Anyone interested in brewing the Jeskai Winota thing?
[U]: The card in question ^
[M]: This seems bad. 5 mana and creature bounces
[K]: And it only triggers once
[D]: i like that it has haste though, thats a nice touch
[A]: I think this is a good casual commander
[A]: Extra combat spell goes brr
[B]: This might be a fun flicker commander
[A]: breath of fury is pretty good with this
[K]: if someone wants to brew a list you are welcome to post it in
#channel
[I]: I misread it and don't want to anymore. Boooo
[R]: Well I'm bummed
The tournament I've been looking forward to, online and free to enter
with great prizes, doesn't pay you if you're in the EU, and I just found
out now after having refused other plans to play in it, and it's
saturday
[E]: that sucks
[R]: I think I'm still gonna play in it, but it kinda sucks that it
works like that
[R]: Some Reddit bs
[R]: Btw, can I get a thread in tournament reports? It's called Reddit
Rumble
[O]: You know what is a Five Color old school theme that hasn’t been
done in years Ally
[S]: Someone enlighten me why is it called clam chowder? I’m guessing
“good soup” from New England
[K]: something like that. though don't get it twisted, the deck
originated here, its just we mainly stopped itterating on it, and
recently, some new folks started from scratch that live up in NE area.
[P]: What do yall think is better Clam or trad?
[D]: i think its purely to personal preference imo. both do well in the
current meta for different reasons.
[D]: personally i like traditional tutor chains better, but clam chowder
is equally valid
[D]: literally the only reason i lost was because one of my opponents
was playing temur dockside in their casual baylen deck for some fucking
reason and the other player countered my attempt to stop the combo,
which for me by blowing up most of the artifacts and enchantments (see
klauths will and the two treasures)
[D]: literally robbed because the other player wanted our opponent to
win instead of me
[T]: i’ve lost shots into top 16s and top4s because of kingmakers
[T]: just feels like shit because they want their bud to win or for me
to lose
[D]: its literally the worst
[D]: and it wasnt even like they were friends, just legit picked them
over me for no reason
[D]: sorry you had to lose top cuts to that tho, thats way worse than
one random casual game haha
[T]: i wouldve liked the top16 at either of the huge events i went to 😖
not enforceable though
[D]: yeah, wish somethign could be done, but yeah thats just how it is
these days
[K]: well, the walker build has a lot more results, and a lot more
street cred. so if you are going off available date its clear which one
is better. but i do agree the breach build is valid, it just won't be
as inately strong, because sisay doesnt do anything to help those
combos.
[B]: It tutors dihada and six and amiantou. Still running oath of
teferi. It works well.
[B]: But yes the regular walker line is still better
[K]: what clam list is running oath of teferi?
[B]: Mine was. The list has sadly been lost.
[K]: well, that's weird, but it makes sense, as you said the walker line
is better. thats also why i stopped running clam
[B]: It also ran elesh norn… and felidar guardian
[K]: felidar makes a lot of sense when you refuse to run bolas.
[B]: This list was one of my brainrot.exe
[B]: You should see my blink atraxa list 👁️👄👁️
[B]: YOOO
[T]: brainrot.exe is so real
[B]: I love shit posting in irl tournaments
[B]: Where do I post it?
[B]: Just decklist discussion
[B]: Ahh huge
[F]: is there anyone that could answer a rules question for me
[F]: [[Chthonian Nightmare]]
For this card, why cant i just for example pay 2 energy, sacrifice lets
say a dockside, then return chthonian back to hand as the casting cost
and THEN return target creature, being dockside, to the battlefield?
[B]: Because you have to target the creature In the yard. You can’t
target dockside because it’s not in the yard when it needs to be.
[F]: So my main confusion is you pay the casting cost (energy, sacrifice
creature, return to hand) BEFORE the ability goes on the stack so the
graveyard target shouldnt be chosen yet
[B]: The target has been declared with ability on the stack.
[B]: To get the ability on the stack we have to target and pay the
costs. These happen at the same time
[F]: I see you're right the order is
Announce the Spell
Make Mode Choices
Targets
Divide / Distribute Affected Objects
Checks Legality of Spell
Cost Determined
Generate Required Mana
Pay Costs
...
[F]: Makes sense, I thought targets were declared after costs paid
[F]: Thank you
[J]: You have to declare targets before costs are paid. It's in the
rules.
[J]: I see you already learned that
[J]: Carry on
[J]: I think I'm probably the #2 Riley after Riley
[P]: whats the goal of Soup?
[B]: Soup?
[B]: Soul cauldron?
[P]: chowder
[P]: i think
[E]: an amalgamation of the no bad cards mindset. as far as win cons,
its breach and thoracle. and sometimes youll see an emiel dockside loop
with orcish bow
[P]: im new to Sisay and keep hearing soup and chowder and i wonder
whats the lines the goal
[E]: soup/chowder/clam all the same build. its breach sisay. theres also
traditional which has walkers, and or pod which uses kiki lines
[J]: To win?
[J]: I presume
[B]: I hate you
[P]: i know that haha😂 😭
[J]: It's just like other Sisay lists, except with no Planeswalker lines
(and no Selvala), and they added in Thoracle and Breach
[J]: Emiel Dockside and Emiel Derevi (Cradle or Bloom Tender as the mana
producers) are the only Sisay assemble-able combos in Clam Chowder.
Sometimes they also are on Displacer Kitten lines which can be assembled
with Teferi and Mox Amber / Opal.
[B]: You actually can run a walker line that requires felidar guardian
and mom. So really bad
[B]: Ask if you want to know. But otherwise don’t run it
[J]: There's a line that requires Mother of Runes?
[B]: No not grandma mom. Mother of machines
[J]: Oh that Mom
[J]: I was really interested in what combo could possibly require Mother
of Runes to work.
[B]: Actually. I might remake my soup line.
[B]: So it’s a card called Nadu and derevi
[B]: Post infinite
[P]: is adding nadu in soup not a good idea?
[B]: Completely different deck
[B]: Well not completely you could build it
[J]: The Clam Chowder server did not seem too hot on it
[J]: Not sure why
[Q]: hows it going
[J]: Great
[Q]: thats good
[Q]: how long have you been playing sisay?
[T]: @H your thing in intro reminded me of a game i played tn
[T]: i went felidar into saheeli, dude goes "i havent seen that shit
since it got banned in standard"
[H]: You'd be surprised
[T]: yeah dude said he hadnt seen it in literal years 🤣 "no way someone
plays that combo in cedh"
[Q]: any tips for someone wanting to learn mulligans and early gameplans
w this deck?
[Q]: riled or any skilled sisay, can u coach me on mtgo lol
[T]: it kinda boils down to get sisay to 4/4, and find a way to get any
of your big mana pieces
[Q]: what are good keeps for mully
[T]: dockside, bloom tender, faeburrow, selvala, or cradle if you have
cauldron are your big mana sources
[Q]: i wanna make a doc or something w rule of thumb basics for things
so i can refer to it
[Q]: yk anyone that has like coaching session type shit for sisay?
[T]: coaching? no
[T]: #channel exists though
[Q]: what is it?
[T]: solve puzzles/find lines, or get help on mulls
[Q]: hm okay
[Q]: i have been playing tev kraum
[Q]: i like it i just wanted to try something diff and im really liking
sisay, from the one game i popped off
[T]: if you want to stick with grixis core, clam chowder
[T]: if you wanna pod, bother bill
[T]: if you wanna do regular sisay stuff, blue names and green names are
good people to ask
[T]: sometimes riley but she just shitposts 99% of the time
[Q]: i know what grixis is
[Q]: but
[Q]: what do you mean by pod
[T]: if you want to be on breach brain freeze thoracle shenanigans,
thats a grixis core
[T]: pod as in birthing pod, thats all byll
[Q]: im playing rileds list atm
[Q]: so is rileds list just "sisay stuff"?
[T]: thats traditional sisay, most of us are on it
[Q]: oh okay
[Q]: i feel like im too slow, if i get like hierarch or bird t1, should
i go t2 sisay if i dont have interaction?
[Q]: i just feel like i make wrong decisions sometimes
[H]: #channel is a great place to start, post possible hands and we
talk through different game plans. Usually a "find the line" puzzle
[Q]: hm okay
[Q]: i would be interested in some sort of coaching or something tho if
u or someone u might know does that kind of thing
[H]: I don't know of anyone that offers it for free, but there are paid
cEDH coaches, I can answer any questions you might have as can most
people in here though
[Q]: i would pay, but that is cool. i dont really have super specific
questions atm as ive only got to play about 3-5 games w sisay atm
[Q]: i feel like i keep mulling down to 5-4 and keep shit hands and i
might be missing something
[Q]: can you talk a little bit about mulling?
[T]: riley do you consider your list beginner friendly
[J]: 4 years.
[Q]: thats quite a while lol
[J]: Well, just think about how it has Chatterfang in it...
[T]: yeah lowkey rileys and bills might be the worst ones to start on 💀
[J]: Yes. I'm a Sisay hipster, I played her before she was cool.
[Q]: what would make a list more beginner friendly?
[Q]: idk this deck reminds me of animar in a way, which i liked alot
when i first started
[J]: Yes. Also fyi you can usually post hands and get mulligan advice in
#channel , reading back through the channel is also helpful
[Q]: yeah thats what they were saying
[T]: how do i describe rileys list
[T]: its uh
[Q]: well hopefully i didnt invest too much yet
[T]: more sisay agnostic
[Q]: these are the only cards im missing from that list lol
[T]: can do a lot more without sisay + walkers
[Q]: so are you talking like not a chain list or something
[J]: If you want to do paid coaching, Comedian is definitely a solid
option, I think he's fairly popular though so I don't know how open his
schedule is, but he is a highly competent Sisay pilot.
You might also be able to ask @V I believe I recall him saying he was
considering starting Coaching. He's also a highly skilled Sisay pilot
with multiple tournament tops.
[J]: But otherwise we will give it free advice here
[Q]: yeah i appreciate it
[J]: We're more than happy to help people for free.
[T]: it is, but riley runs cards like chatterfang, ewit, spellseeker
[H]: It's more beginner friendly than some, but look at secret sauce and
not tutor chains
[Q]: the second game i played i popped off, i got the unicorn and
started bouncing derevi to untap the 3 mana dork i forget her name
[H]: but I'm also kinda busy atm so gimme a bit
[Q]: but i was popping off lol
[J]: Yeah we stan Selvala in this server
[T]: if you really wanna simplify it, it becomes a + b
[J]: Unless your name is Turtlepod
[Q]: well tbh im stupid
[T]: wubrg source + tutor to extend wubrg source
[T]: LMAOOOO
[Q]: so sometimes its hard to digest what people are saying
[Q]: meaning selvala and siay is the tutor
[T]: emiel is kinda the extender
[T]: emiel is weird though unless its dockside since you need derevi or
tyvar
[Q]: oh so tutor for emiel is what you mean
[J]: I highly suggest going to #channel , you'll find a Google doc
linked there called the Book of Combos. It's kinda long (like 15 pages
or something) but I wrote it and it's very detailed about the lines.
[T]: if youre on selvala, you tutor for either saheeli rai or tyvar
[T]: or you can check out ex's list cause i forgot that category existed
and it has p much every combo
[T]: dude that thing likes disappearing
[Q]: ok so if i go to that section, is there any place we can narrow
things down to?]
[Q]: i cant take in alot of stuff ill get overhwlemed
[T]: this thing
[J]: The Google doc is sorted by chapters.
[Q]: thats why i like to have rule of thumbs/basic and just play and
then when i learn a lil more i come back and learn more then apply etc
[R]: That was very helpful when I started out, forgot to thank you for
the great work
[T]: kalain is everywhere 😭
[J]: There should be a prologue chapter that is a rule of thumb for how
most Sisay combos work
[Q]: is this a list youd recc for a beginner
[T]: oh no
[J]: If you only read that chapter, it's fine. It's like a page and a
half.
[Q]: awesome thank you
[Q]: idk i feel like the list im playing now isnt too bad
[Q]: but then again i have 4 games in
[H]: I'd not play nadu if a total beginner, but it's pretty close to
what I'd start people on
[J]: But I do suggest reading the Emiel chapter and the Oath of Bolas
chapter too.
[Q]: and prolly misplayed in 3 of them lmfao
[Q]: i dont want to go anywhere near that card
[T]: nadu is cracked
[Q]: my friend played it
[T]: p much any deck that can adopt him already has
[Q]: i hate it
[Q]: okay
[Q]: i misunderstood
[Q]: im tired and for some reason thought we were talking ab nadu as a
commander
[T]: nadu is playable in like
[T]: 99% of lists that contain simic
[Q]: i get that
[Q]: i just dont like it
[T]: absolute game ender in kenny, that shit is disgusting ngl
[Q]: he scarred me with 45 minute turns on each players turn
[H]: For beginners:
-Kalain, Nadu, FF, Greaves, Fire Cov
+1mv counter of choice, Cyc Rift, Smothering Tithe, Enlightened Tutor,
Eledamri's Call
[H]: and that's what I'd start people with tbh
[C]: Good rule I'm trying to abide by is if a card is very broken in
multiple formats I'm gonna try jamming it here
[C]: Either as a commander or in the 99
[C]: Did it with Atraxa when she came out but then she fell off in cedh
[C]: The one ring next. Now Nadu
[L]: Hey there, sorry to just burst in your Discussion. I am planning to
update my Sisay list (older standard Oath of Bolas List). Now I noticed
there are a lot of recent big tournaments won by lists like these
:(https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=57312&d=627844&f=cEDH ). Notable Oath
of Bolas seems gone in these lists and only Emiel plus Thassas and
additional Tutors plus good stuff/Staxx seem to be more of a focus. If I
want to update now, should I go more the traditional route or try this
new hotness? Thanks for your time.
[Q]: is there a specific list you could point me to?
[J]: This is an alternate archetype called Clam Chowder. It's, as you
noticed, more of a good stuff type deck.
It's personal choice which you decide to play. Both versions have been
doing well in tournaments.
[J]: You can also hybridize them to some extent. For example, you can
cut the Planeswalker lines to add in Breach and Thassa's Oracle lines,
but keep some of the more Sisay oriented cards like Selvala and Bloom
Tender for Emiel Derevi lines, keep cards like Cultist of the Absolute
and Aminatou for explosive Dockside lines, etc.
[Q]: i think that one list you posted earlier has greaves and the other
cards
[H]: the secret sauce list I just linked with those changes
[Q]: yeah
[H]: that's why you -greaves nadu etc and +the other cards
[Q]: wait what
[J]: Start with the linked list.
Remove the cards that she said to -
Add the cards she said to +
[Q]: oh okay
[L]: Thanks for the answer. Hard choice though. While I do like the idea
of being less reliant on a monolithic commander, having Sisay run the
show and solving the puzzle how to win with her in any given situation
is like half the fun of running the deck imo. Then again getting your
hand plugged by the planeswalkers has always been an annoyance.
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[D]: It's so cute, I can't believe was close to death when we get it
:cattocry:
[A]: From my experience the light orange patched ones are complete
idiots but also huggable and lovable ones
[A]: Our idiot sleeps like that with my bf every night like a plushie
[A]: That’s how I lost my bf to him :cattocry:
[A]: ~~not like Im also hugging dog when sleeping~~
[D]: Mine too it's dumb but so in love with cuddles
[D]: I have difficulty to play games when it's time for cuddle xD
[A]: They just are happy even if you look at them or call their names I
swear
[D]: Mine also love to talk
[D]: It's always a meow meow
[A]: And ours is even chill sleeping next to sighthound if he just is
able to lay next to us
[A]: OURS TOO
[A]: HES SO TALKATIVE
[D]: But I get mad if I think that all my cats was left to die if wasn't
for me
[D]: Mine love touch me
From when was a little kitty always love touch things
[A]: Lula is so sneaky when coming to sit next to you
[A]: He just appears
[A]: Sleeping behind you
[D]: Gram my face with his paws, so delicate but understand want cuddle
[D]: Mine love sleep on my chest even if it too big xD
[A]: Like a babies fr
[A]: Our is fat (on the diet tho) so when he tries to sleep on you it’s
kinda suffocating xD
[A]: Mostly he sleeps hugged like teddy bear
[D]: Mine sleep under the blanket and put the head on the pillow like a
human
[D]: I grew it from day one almost, was so small and the eyes was still
close
[A]: My soya learned how to sleep under blanket like cats because of me
even tho he’s a small raptor horse
[D]: I really don't like take mom's place but I did the best for them,
they where 5, but only the big one survive aka the light orange one
[D]: Was the worst summer in my life
[A]: I also hug him so we both just sleep with alive stuffed animals
[A]: I can imagine I’m so sorry
[A]: But if at least one survived it’s a success
[A]: It will have the best life possible with you
[A]: Full of hugs and screaming at you
[D]: One of them die the next day we took them at the vet
Like am I a joke to you?
[A]: Like my rat dying way home after spending fortune for his
appointment this day
[D]: I'm sorry to hear that q.q
[A]: I love her but it was a true bitch move
[A]: Do t worry death is a part of owning rats, you learn how to respond
to that. It was few years to me but for them it’s all of their lives
spend being loved and having the best life they could
[D]: I understand, even if they are kinda difficult the loss it's still
hurt
[D]: I have animals from when I born, but I still get so sad when happen
[D]: Expecially because all my animals are saved and wondering sometimes
if you did something wrong
[A]: True that. Death of the rat was less painful than loss of my cat I
had for 17 years
[A]: That’s the worst. Rats are themselves genetically weak and with
weak health so you learn how to help them but still has this feeling you
could do better
[A]: It’s mostly not true and it comes out of love for them
[D]: We did the best but still think we could do better
[A]: Probably did everything there was to do to help them, it shows how
much you care and love them
[D]: I try also to save wild animals
One day I found a rat blocked on a conch and I free it, we had and rats
infestation but still not able to kill them, we manage to resolve it by
buy some bucket with lid
[A]: There are also live traps! Good for just catching them and
releasing away from the buildings
[D]: Me and my mom decide that we have to cut the visit from where my
cats come, not only because we have 8 cats at this point, but also for
our mental health
[D]: We don't have them anymore, not even in the chickens house
[D]: We manage to leave any possible way to find food from us
[A]: Sorry but has to go now since I’m at work :”D will be later and
will try to design some cat today!
[A]: Stay strong and see you later :heartcat:
[D]: Cya later porter, good luck for you job and tysm :heartcat:
[B]: Can you tell someone was upset I wasn't asleep last night 😂?
[D]: "How you dare don't sleep?"
[E]: my kitten :pepelove:
[A]: A baby! Looks so judging sitting like that even has crossed paws
[B]: Ik so horrible of me, I was laying down as well so I was not about
to sleep when that little devil thing was watching me :kekw: .
[B]: it makes me think of a bird perching 😂
[C]: I guess I’m a mother now
[E]: she's not a baby, she has like 8 years lol
but yes, she jugdes everyone :cattocry:
[A]: Holding a baby and his feet, there is no way back now
[D]: If you look closely you can see the belly (is fat and got so many
kittens)
[B]: Idk what to call this one 😂. All I have is sloth
- >-
[C]: so far I'm over 5 hours of watching valorant streaming and not
getting a beta drop
[D]: on that note, can we get a valorant channel?
[A]: @C only 25k keys are being rolled out per day I think
[A]: And you can get one by watching all throughout the beta
[C]: lucky for me, I'll be having my main pc on twitch all day today
(tomorrow and as long as it takes), while I work on the other pc
[D]: i had 20 tabs open at one point and just muted chrome, not sure
that works but eh
[C]: they said that more than one stream doesn't increase your odds
[C]: the main thing is it needs to be active, aka you can be browsing fb
on another monitor
[C]: the most recent left click has to be twitch
[D]: ic good to know
[A]: Hey anyone else with spectrum experiencing an outage right now?
[A]: Down detector showing that it's pretty bad
[A]: Mine is down currently
[D]: looks like covid19 infected the cable lines OMG
[A]: Ya that's part of it all this increased traffic
[D]: haha yep
[B]: I thought they said the Beta drop stuff was kinda borked @C
[D]: summit1g is up to 240k viewers
[D]: been borked on/off all day and viewer numbers still up, wayyy up
[D]: i didnt expect to see this many issues with streamers not being
able to log in a lot
[D]: i guess an extra 50k players per region adds up O_O
[D]: puzzles me they dont have better simulations for their servers
[C]: Yeah, it was hit or miss, I was checking in on their twitter thread
- source_sentence: >-
Krunker is playable on Discord and Steam but some users report loading
issues and differences between versions
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[G]: Demonlogist anyone?
[F]: Is Nick streaming tonight?
[C]: probably
[J]: yes I will be! schedule for this week will be out soon
[F]: Okayy!
[A]: yippee
[F]: @M im an even bigger fan of you pookie
[K]: hows everyone doing today ❤️
[L]: Wtf is that video lul
[K]: i am exhausteddddd
[A]: thats tough, hope u get better
[K]: aw thank you, ill be okay! nice cold shower will fix me up haha
[A]: yea, nice cold showers always help, especially in the morning
[K]: i had to lay those flat pack flooring all day today, i have more to
do tomorrow rippp
[A]: damn, rip
[B]: yo yo yooo how's everyone goin?
[B]: not bad thanks for askin
[A]: thats good
[B]: i got a couple of new gifs out
[A]: most my gifs would get me banned 💀
[B]: which ones?
[A]: ill dm
[A]: they rnt too bad
[A]: 💀
[I]: hey all I am not 100% sure where to put this
but just wanted to ask would anyone know any really good Walking horror
simulators with not so hard puzzles ?
[H]: I’m watching one right now it’s called shame legacy it’s pretty
good I think it’s free as well @I
[A]: bros done for
[D]: Good morning good afternoon good evening happy Monday
[L]: @J could i play phas with you even if im in europe and you are in
australia?
[B]: Life is like ass hairs, short and full of shit
[E]: Nick's ass hair goes to his toes
[B]: Damn his pubes too?
[B]: What?
- >-
[O]: of course, credit card...
[O]: (referring to AC Symphony online stream)
[P]: Debit cards may also work
[C]: conformal fuel tank, basically those bulges on the side of the
block 3 hornet are fuel tanks
[F]: I honestly find it astonishing how the F/A-18 was just a multirole
fighter alongside tomcats in desert storm, now it seems like their
making it into another 5th gen stealthy!
[P]: 4:56 in the promo video shows the full track list, it's way bigger
than I thought it would have been
[P]: There's even some AC2 in there
[R]: Lightning Speed and Warning Line. Might just have to give my money
then. 👀
[P]: ACECOMBAT THE SYMPHONY OVERTURE - ISAF - Blockade -
Stonehenge, Invincible Fleet
Rex Tremendae, Megalith -Agnus Dei-
15 Years Ago
The Unsung War
The Journey Home
Uh... something. I can't tell what this line says, if it says anything
at all and isn't just an intermission.
Lightning Speed
...
[O]: dont have that either. Oh well.
[Q]: > Uh... something. I can't tell what this line says, if it says
anything at all and isn't just an intermission.
Looks like 休憩 to me, which is intermission
[P]: Ah okay, I figured it was something like that
[P]: I'm listening to the music portion of the video and I did *not*
expect Zero's build-up to go that way
[P]: Also Kioyaka Wada's voice is absolutely gorgeous and she nailed
Zero so well
[P]: I'm so happy, I'm so goddamn happy they made it happen
internationally
[P]: A week and two days isn't that long away, either
[N]: So sly is it good for my first flight stick for ace combat 7 skies
unknown for ps4?
[D]: nah they're just reducing its rcs
[D]: can't make it stealthy
[P]: It's your choice. You have to weigh how much it costs against how
much you'll make use of it. I can't make that judgement for you.
[N]: Ok because I play ace combat 7 skies unknown for ps4 a lot more
then my other games
[P]: I'm heading off for now, it's 8:25 in the morning where I live and
I haven't gotten sleep for hours. I'll be back later 👋
[K]: Hey, do we have an estimate of when the 4th+ gen DLC releases?
[L]: Sometime before December
[B]: The Symphony is cheaper than a live metal concert 🤘
[B]: Or less expensive? You get the meaning
[E]: Hello guys
[E]: I love the X-02 S with the skin of Mihaly
[E]: and i love the ADF-01 Falken
[E]: i think they are the most good looking fighters in the whole serie.
🙂
[M]: I, too, love the Falken
[G]: anyone here got AC7 on PC?
[M]: yea
[G]: wanna dogfight?
[J]: I dont have any of the mulitplayer unlocks yet but im down to play
[G]: great
[J]: give me a few minutes, ill be on soon
[G]: i'll make a game
[A]: remind me what ps5 enhanced ac7 is capable of, my data isnt strong
enough to load the wiki rn
[A]: nice pumpkin btw sly, spoooooke
[H]: I feel summoned
[P]: It's not capable of anything different
[A]: does it just perform like a ps4 pro then? @P
[P]: Correct
[I]: Man o Man… I just saw the video for the Symphony. It sounded
amazing of course, but the ending! Omg I was in tears. That rendition of
Journey Home was heavenly and it caught me way off guard. Lol
- >-
[U13]: Or you're really unlucky
[U11]: Hello
[U28]: Anybody know why private matches are no longer only the people in
the voice channel and now include teams?
[U16]: it puts you in with bots
[U28]: Why tho? I Prefer the private matches before when there wasn't a
"team deathmatch"
[U8]: damn it would be cool if you could trade and list items on a
global market
[U8]: oh wait…. io version?
[U14]: are krunker and this game completely separate
[U31]: someone play some krunker w me plz
[U8]: yeah this game is a worse pay to win version of krunker
[U14]: lmao
[U14]: its a shame i cant slidehop in this game
[U16]: so did i and they didnt fill it with bots
[O]: How do you invite friends to play together?
[U14]: go play real krunker
[O]: but do you know how to invite friends?
[U14]: prettysure they have tobe in the same server as youre in
[U14]: lmfao the smg is broken
[U14]: how p2w does this get?
[U9]: 20% bonus hp and damage
[U14]: thats with the best skins in the game?
[U14]: everything combined?
[U14]: interesting
[U14]: i expected much worse
[U14]: i honestly wish theyd bring this UI into actual krunker
[U14]: its so much neater
[C]: imagine actual krunker though
[U14]: im a verified sniper main reer
[C]: same routine as that of 7/10 people
[S]: I am Africa
[U14]: gtfo
[U14]: no one cares
[U14]: go play csgo or something idk
[S]: concerteza
[S]: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[S]: kkkkkkkkkkkk
[S]: yes
[U47]: I wonder how many people here know about the actual game krunker
[U38]: this game is so cool
[Q]: How do you join matches with friends?
[U38]: send them invites
[U38]: or join their invites
[U40]: Yes
[U38]: or game 1
[U38]: best discord game ever
[U8]: that is a rather generous assessment
[U38]: NAH I’M OUTTA HERE
[U41]: HI HI HI
[U48]: wsg new
[U5]: wsg
[A]: nerds
[U32]: how can i create privte room for my frndws?
[U1]: Hewo :3
[U19]: The game isnt loading up
[U19]: ITS like stuck on the loading screen
[N]: Wanna play?
[N]: Who wanna play the game with me I'm game 1 with me right now?
[U17]: Hello
[N]: Wanna play in game 1 right now?
[U17]: i'm in another game
[N]: I'm lonely
[U17]: i'm already in a game
[N]: After that round, can u join game corner, game 1 plz?
[U17]: i'm sorry but no
[N]: Why?
[U17]: i'm with friends
[N]: Oh
[N]: Guess I'll play by myself
[U19]: why isnt the game working
[U19]: @U49 dude the game isnt loading up why?
[U19]: is it loading for you
[U19]: why am i stuck on loading
[U19]: i joined
[U19]: but its still loading and loading
[U33]: hello i'm new people
[U33]: @everyone hi want to play game
[U22]: Hiya
[G]: Heya
[U39]: anyone wanna play
[U12]: anyone wanna play
[U12]: ok
[U39]: how do we play together
[U12]: inv me?
[U39]: how
[E]: When does battle pass reset?
[U12]: why is the game not loding
[U39]: mine loaded
[U45]: hello 👋
[U39]: i joined the other guy idk why cant join yours
[U45]: Is it currently normal that you can only play Krunker on Discord?
Because everytime I Start Krunker on Steam I only get the Loadingscreen…
Is that Normal or do I have to do something 😂😂
[U39]: theres krunker on steam?
[U12]: there is?
[U39]: can you even link accounts
[U45]: i downloaded it but it is not working
[U45]: i guess
[U45]: does anyone of you got the premium acc in krunker ?
[U12]: not me
[U45]: is it worth it ?
[U45]: maybe i want to buy it
[U39]: i just got to 50
[U39]: its not bad haha alot of legendaries
[U12]: i guess i cant play it today sry nuggets
[U39]: its okay haha
[U45]: do i have it foreever then or do i have to buy it new when a new
season comes
[U39]: maybe different regions or something i dont know
[U39]: should be forever
[U45]: okay so you would say its worth it haha
[U12]: yeah it dosr says premium account
[U39]: yeap
[U45]: what ?
[U45]: okay thx 🙂
[U45]: you mean that its forever
[U12]: yeah
[U15]: Breh I get kicked for sending a game invite here but they can
send that
[U39]: is the tournament thing global or something or just server based
[U35]: Bro wtf
[U45]: Is the browser krunker the same as here in discord ???
[X]: hey
[J]: Wanna be somoene my friend?
[U18]: someone play rl plz
[U30]: Is it possible to somehow log into discord activity and the game
in the browser from the same account?
[K]: Hey i was wondering if it was possible to change the controls on
the keyboard
[U45]: i think its not possible
[F]: go play csgo if you want to cheat
[U7]: i have a problem
[U7]: when i play this game on discord and scope in, i just see a red
point
[L]: my name ck lisa !
[U6]: hm mm
[I]: Hello
[U42]: how do i make a private game to play with my frends on a dis
server
[U42]: how do i make a private game to play with my frends on a dis
server
[U20]: how do i make a private game to play with my frends on a dis
server
[U6]: this game pretty fun
[U9]: i got bored of it after i maxed out in like june this year
[B]: yeah
[B]: it gets really repetetive
[I]: Dies
[U19]: Hi I like money
[D]: I LOVE krunker
[D]: Fetch me some krunker boy
[U6]: Hi lookdedook
[U44]: I wonder if it's possible for the krunker formula to be further
ruined
[U44]: Maybe remove jumping
[W]: Hi everyone
[Y]: How i can play with my friends?
[U12]: its writen in the #channel
[U9]: remove guns
[U9]: melee only
[Z]: Hey is the aim assist meant to be like a sorta aimbot?
[R]: how to get more than 60 fps in krunker i can put the fps on 1200
but still have 60
[M]: Why am I in this server
[U21]: HELLO WHEN DOES BATTLE PASS RESET ?
[T]: 👀
[U43]: Can you only unlock new classes through lucky spins or purchases?
[U36]: Yeah, That's how I unlock the submachine gun
[U23]: how do i play with a friend
[U3]: same vc
[U23]: i'm in a vc, but how do we get in the same game?
[U23]: automatic?
[U3]: there's a friendlist on the right side
[U23]: it just keeps giving me the pop up, never lets me actually add
[U3]: click the arrow and there should be a join button there
if it's not there, then it means you're already in the same game
[U23]: nah, it doesn't work like that lol
[U23]: we both hit play and are not in the same game
[U29]: hello guys
[U29]: i have a bug with my POV someone know how to fix it ?
[U29]: can i send the picture of my problem here ?
[N]: HI
[U29]: can u help me
[U37]: How can i play with friends
[U46]: im having an issue with running and then it makes me start
looking up or a different direction , is yours similar by chance?
[H]: yuo
[U36]: GUYS I GOT A 21-1 IN A MATCH
[U27]: awesome for u
[U36]: Thank you! It's my first game with a submachine gun
[U27]: i remember mines
[U29]: WoW your not lucky no my problem is than when I start a game my
POV (FOV) is really disturbing
[U29]: Who know how to got sniper without turn the wheels ? 👀I’m lv 41
[U36]: I got the cloud nine
[U27]: i think i got that 2
[U36]: Nice! I'm trying to get a better one
[P]: wsg
[U]: Weird question but is premium a 1 time buy
[U9]: it is
[U24]: erm
does anyone know how to invite friends???
[U4]: They need to enter with the link to the activity
[U24]: well yea...but i didnt know you have random names 😭 so after 20
mintues of confusion i was playing with my friend the whole time
[U4]: I play with one friend an we have our names on the scoreboard,
sorry for my bad english
[U24]: nono its all good, thank you ❤️
[U10]: how do I play with my friend in the same discord channel?
[U4]: Pass him the invitation link
[U4]: At the right you have a member list, when you see you'r friend
picture you can join him and same for him
[U2]: 1
[U34]: u people know how many legendaries there are?
[U34]: in game
[U34]: in total?
[U34]: i wanna know
[U25]: How do you play with ppl in call without being on the opposing
team?
[U34]: i think it radomized
[U26]: Hey there!
[U26]: Best way to grind exp 🙂 I want the rocket
[V]: Hello 🙂
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[B]: Any Sl gamers?
[Q]: currently testing tdm
[Q]: if you join we can test it or smth
[H]: is it a new user diff or
[H]: did i do somethin wrong
[Q]: what
[Q]: You must be level 15+ to send a seeding request to mitigate spam
pings.
server has a population of 3+
[J]: If you guys want I can weed for you when you have enough
[A]: Ambee smokes weed for us
[A]: Such a kind soul
[J]: Shit autocorrect
[J]: Also I do edibles
[A]: Fair enough i guess
[S]: I'll also get high if my family is smoking when I get home
[M]: whatever helps u sleep at night (its the same thing)
[S]: Lowkey don't wanna be sober rn (the silliness is taking over)
[J]: True
[S]: Quite literally sitting on my school bathroom floor rnn :333
[S]: Anywho
[J]: SAME
[S]: Twinning
[J]: I have to go back to class soon but I no no wanna
[S]: I have single person bathrooms in my school and I kinda just go in
here when I don't wanna associate with anyone
[A]: Build a bomb quickly then send a bomb threat
[J]: True
[S]: Well... I don't wanna go to prison
[C]: GETTING ARRESTED SPEEDRUN
[A]: Just dont get caught
[J]: Gotta go back to class now :sosad:
[A]: Works for me
[S]: Imma go back In like 5-10 minutes
[J]: Goodbye guys see I’ll message in 30 or so minutes
[Q]: uh it is a feautre that server restarting faster after round ends?
[O]: it restarted 2 seconds after the win screen
[Q]: it was more before
[Q]: the seed was success
[C]: hows it going on the server @Q ?
[C]: any prollems?
[C]: nice. ill watch over for a llil
[Q]: some scp dc'd
[Q]: one guy was problematic but he left. @B can confirm
[Q]: someone before seed or in -1 hour from now was problematic, it was
a user asked about pregnant man, we ignored , he left after like mid
round died
[B]: Ah this dude
[C]: oh
[H]: strange guy
[Q]: @F be ballin' I had to go
[F]: Yessir
[F]: We ball 🔥🔥
[Q]: Sorry for the brain eaters :( we had 7
[I]: fallout is on
[S]: not bc of fallout
[C]: DAMN
[M]: Lemme fix that, hes leaving in 5-
[S]: yeah, screw you man!!!!
[S]: im getting on not in relation to the fact that youre on rn
[S]: im getting on under my own voalition
[M]: Good point aaron
[Q]: Be ballin'
[R]: Scp 049 will never be ballin
[E]: @J prove this man wrong
[S]: what?
[A]: My exact thoughts
[R]: I mean hear me out 049 appears to be unable to sprint and about 5'6
like the average hight
[R]: I don't feel like he can ball that effectively
[A]: Ok but what if he just kills the enemy team
[A]: No one can stop him then
[R]: Disqualified
[D]: i saw 17 online
[D]: did validaatino
[D]: now theres 5
[S]: is peanut fixed now or
[S]: lmao
[S]: solo peanut is actually like solo 096
[C]: just dont look
[A]: Whats wrong with the nut
[C]: broken
[K]: fallout what was for dinner
[C]: what?
[K]: dinner
[K]: what u got
[K]: or getting
[C]: why do you insist upon studying me like a research project
[C]: "what he ate: " taking notes or somthing lmao
[S]: personally
[K]: what did u have
[S]: i forgot
[S]: what
[S]: seergver
[K]: dm me what you said
[K]: i didnt get to read it
[S]: good
[C]: thats wild
[C]: i saw that
[K]: i have recording non full screen things off
[S]: DO NOT CHECK AUDIT LOG
[S]: I BEG
[E]: What did he said
[K]: i was gonna clip and see what you wrote
[C]: i didnt need to check log
[C]: lmao thats wild
[K]: fallout what he say
[C]: move on from that one
[E]: Aight
[S]: ill tell you bc i trust you more than fran
[K]: it is my buisness, it was directed towards me
[K]: i need to know
[C]: what this guy said
[E]: Aight I do believe that was a wrong server moment he told me what
he said lol
[E]: Let's just move on from this one
[K]: this game is the only reason i know how to spell laboratory
[C]: 💀
[L]: same
[Q]: I should really actually either record or stream the rounds that I
play:peepoShrug:
[K]: did u guys get cola
[K]: you have been spared for sparing the cola
[K]: he spared not enough
[K]: so i taketh his life
[F]: Its because you're an unidentified biological life form that needs
to be studied
[F]: We don't know what you're able to do or cannot do
[F]: You are the fallout001
[C]: SCP-Fallout001
[K]: @I flashlight on very fine goes to flashbang
[I]: thanks
[K]: then flashbang on very fine for cola
[K]: how many people are left
[A]: Fallout08 :shock:
[C]: only original fellas remember that one
[J]: I give up today
[J]: I fucking hate it when fran is online and nothing interesting is
happening so I'm off
[J]: I rather be in chaos theory servers rn thats how bad it is
[K]: stop
[P]: im about to hop onto the server is it chill rn
[C]: if tis not ill get on? too EZ
[K]: you blame me, but you shot me first
[C]: fixed pnut bug
[K]: what was the bug?
[C]: you cant left click when a person isnt looking at pnut
[K]: oh wow
[C]: so you could just look down and never die
[K]: i literally expierenced that today and yesterday
[K]: i thought i was just bad (which i still am)
[K]: cause a dude was picking up micro
[K]: and i couldnt kill him
[C]: that would explain it
[R]: I've been thinking I'm just bad at nut 💀
[C]: it only bugged with this update
[C]: previous versions were fine
[R]: Oh so maybe I am
[P]: YO @everyone
[P]: we need people in the server
[P]: there's only 2 people
[P]: it's boring
[R]: Give me 48 hours 🙏
[P]: and it's me
[P]: :(
[K]: lets not do this
[S]: It didn't ping anyone tho
[N]: isn't that what the seed channel is for?
[C]: yuo seed to get players on but not anymore theres nobody
[G]: is anyone still on>
[C]: noi unfortunatly
[G]: ok
[K]: anybody wanna hop on?
[J]: @O I see you,
[O]: youre not the only person who plays chaos theory
[B]: Gaming
- >-
[C]: That is very good suggestion :D
[D]: how about
[D]: I let the memes channel get past me
[D]: never again XD
[B]: Someday drag... Someday
[A]: make a bonus to construction
[A]: like that when you place a bank in your house
[A]: you created your own new bank tab
[B]: Why tho? Construction is already broken as hell
[A]: because it sounds logic
[B]: Riiiight, Great argument. anyway i dont think its a gud suggestion
but they can decide on that on their own
[A]: then make a bank craftable
[A]: instead you needing to buy it
[A]: ex 100 iron bars 200 logs for workbench
[A]: 200 iron bars 400 stone for furnace
[A]: 500 gold bars 500 jungle logs
[E]: @role the vote system needs a fix, it's not registering votes for
some reason ^^.
- >-
[D]: Plus i just love both of their soundtracks
[B]: That and the wmd catalyst mission where 200 planes show up
[D]: Bartolomeo just has this mazing beat to it
[D]: Play that mission on ace
[B]: I dont want to
[B]: I already heard enough missile alerts
[D]: On what game mode
[B]: Hard
[D]: PFFFFF
[D]: You will shit your pants if you play on ace
[D]: Guess they call it boiling point for a reason
[B]: I just got back into ace combat after 6 months of break so it was
definitely a trial by fire
[B]: My god ive never seen that many typhoons
[D]: I havent played ACAH in years
[B]: Its shit
[D]: Really itchin to play it again but my dad *refuses* to buy an xbox
360
[B]: Theres like 5 aircraft missions all game
[C]: they confirm that her husband died iirc.
[D]: I know
[D]: I know acah
[B]: Acepedia says unconfirmed but assumed
[D]: People say its bad but I honestly dont care ac ah was fucking fire
[B]: The plane missions were fun but the helicopter and AC130 missions
were boring
[D]: Disagree
[D]: Ac130 sucked
[D]: I will agree with that
[D]: But the helichompter missions
[D]: God i was stuck on those for so long
[B]: It just didnt fit ace combats vibe tho
[D]: Heres what I think after actually understanding everything
[B]: And i literally have no memory of the soundtrack to that game
[D]: Assault horizon is a good game
[D]: Assault horizon is *not* a good ace combat game
[D]: Dude your missing out
[B]: Imo ACAH is a decent game but it didnt work with the AC franchise
[D]: All of it is just **rock**
[D]: The sad and emotional song? **rock.**
[B]: I do wonder if we will get AC8 before the year 2050
[D]: Maybe they are done with ac entirely
[D]: I mean what could they possibly do now
[B]: Remake zero and 5
[B]: Literally a goldmine waiting for them
[D]: Never played the trilogy
[B]: Bro youre missing out
[D]: I know i know
[B]: Get an emulator and play em stat
[B]: AC5 will keep you busy for a couple weeks of playtime
[D]: For the past 2 years my favorite ace combat song
[B]: Look up PCSX2 and how to download it
[D]: Has been Deep Strike
[D]: Hasnt changed once
[D]: On my pc?
[B]: Zero is easily the best song in the game
[B]: Yep
[D]: Isnt that illegal or something
[B]: The emulator isnt, the bios and iso are technically illegal but the
console is so old no one really cares anymore
[B]: Besides i already own the whole trilogy so for me it doesnt feel
that wrong cus i frickin own the games
[D]: Can the same be said for the 360
[D]: Cus i kinda wanna emulate ah
[B]: Yeah tho thats more taxing to run
[D]: Yikes
[B]: Whats in your pc determines how it runs
[B]: Thats so cursed
[B]: Almost as cursed as how fast the tanks are in ac6
[B]: Those things are rapid
[B]: Theyre fucking tanks not rally cars
[D]: Is it me or is the F-15E super god damn fast in every ac game
[B]: Not as fast as an f22
[D]: In ac7
[D]: A 15E could literally out run a foxhound
[B]: Oh i havent played it in that game yet
[D]: Ac7 was good graphically nut
[D]: But*
[D]: I have to say
[B]: Ive got the experimental dlc so i use the shinden 2
[D]: 6 had the better campaign
[E]: *Just like in real life*
[D]: ASF-X my beloved
[E]: If they were clean that is, when loaded they're pretty chonky
[D]: The thing can run jdams and jsows at the same time
[B]: Ac7 was a follow on to AC5 so if you havent played the trilogy then
its another experience entirely
[E]: As well as just about anything the USAF has in inventory
[D]: I know what i need to about osea and erusea
[D]: True
[B]: Yeah but the experience doesnt feel as cohesive as if youve played
5
[B]: All 32 missions of it
[D]: Nobody:
wyvern multiplayer mains in ac7:
[D]: Grass?
[D]: What is this grass you speak of?
[D]: All i know is PSM and EML
[D]: Fair
[B]: Ac5 was so long tho it took me 2 weeks of straight grinding to
complete on hard
[E]: Now try it on Ace
[B]: No.
[B]: I refuse
[E]: Also, rookie numbers
[B]: I have enough ptsd as it is
[D]: you guys are wussies
[E]: I have been playing AC5 for way too fucking long
[D]: your not a man until you beat mission 13 of AC6
[D]: on ACE
[D]: with a tornado GR.4
[B]: Gracmeria patrol?
[D]: nope liberation of gracmeria
[B]: Oh
[D]: where mr funny man pasternak
[D]: @B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV95geIqJxo refresh your brain
[B]: Ngl i beat it on hard and the tricky bit was when pasternak decided
to play a game of chicken with 6 missiles fired at my face
[B]: Having flares woulda been nice there
[D]: i find it bullshit how some of the enemys can use flares in ac6
[D]: but i cant
[B]: Yep
[B]: Ac7 at least makes it fair
[B]: But seriously dude you NEED to play that original trilogy cus the
soundtracks and story are iconic
[B]: Yeqh
[B]: Its a bit fiddly to configure but theres videos for it and
specifically how to optimise ace combat
[B]: But you could also play any ps2 game you want
[E]: Well, most
[E]: There are a few that have "issues" under emulaton
[B]: I havent found any *yet*
[B]: I still think itd be great if someone found a way to ressurect
infinity
[E]: There's work being made in that direction to attempt to resurrect
it
[B]: Or an emulator
[B]: And why havent i heard about this??
[E]: Don't know details, I just know that there are attempts being made
[B]: Awesome, good to hear
[A]: I hope so, I sure do miss that game.
[A]: I was very let down by the AC7 multiplayer after playing Infinity
some years before.
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[G]: First proper Tiltak-Taktician match in a while, with much longer
time control than previous matches. Tiltak has improved as expected, but
Tako still gets plenty of wins
**Tiltak vs Taktician, 2000 games.**
**Size:** 6.
**Engine settings:** `-multi-cut` for Taktician, default settings for
Tiltak
**Time control: **90+0.9.
**CPU: ** R9-5900X, 12(24) cores at 3.7GHz. 24 games were played in
parallel.
**Opening book:** 6s_4ply_balanced_openings.txt. This book consists of
1000 openings, intended to have a smaller white advantage than the
standard opening position. Each opening was played twice, with the
engines switching sides.
**Results:** +1616-281=103, +279 elo for Tiltak. 953 white wins, 944
black wins.
[G]: I considered changing it, this time control may have been large
enough for Tako to benefit from bigger TT
[G]: I tend to think it doesn't matter though, its TT is pretty large by
default
[G]: The 20+0.2 match I ran a few days ago actually had slightly better
result for Tako. Even though the 90+0.9 match had a slightly stronger
Tiltak version (I think)
[D]: I think I might rather see 10x the time control, 1/10 the games. I
don't really think there are so many unique openings in Tak unless you
start getting into a ton of plies
[G]: I've wanted to try this in the past, the biggest reason I haven't
is due to memory limitations. Tiltak and Tako are both pretty
memory-hungry, and if you run 8 games in parallel, that's 16 engine
instances that all want lots of RAM to themselves
[G]: I have a new shiny desktop with 64GB RAM now though. I can probably
squeeze in a fair number of games in parallel
[G]: I'm not sure people would find it *that* interesting though,
certainly not with the opening book I'm using now. They all start from
really bad positions
[D]: Question: is it actually useful to run games on the
"hyperthreading" cores?
[E]: i think seeing engines tackle weird positions is relatively
interesting
[G]: You know, that's a very good question. I never tested it, I just
did it anyway'
[G]: There's lots of candy for you in that 2000-game PTN then 😁
[E]: i don't know if i want to look through them one by one til i find
something interesting tho
[E]: i suppose the tiltak losses ought to be a good place to start
[G]: They're certainly interesting for me. I use them a lot for
development ideas
[E]: is that file here anywhere?
[G]:
https://discord.com/channels/176389490762448897/932765511358513204/934815373340061727
I put it in a stupid place
[E]: sick
[D]: Yeah just curious, I don't exactly understand what "hyperthreading"
does. My understanding is it makes it easier to context switch, but
doesn't directly improve the computing power of the machine. And
considering that we should be running at full blast on the cores we're
using, my guess was it wouldn't help. But that's based on my
understanding of hyperthreading, which is at least oversimplified if not
wrong.
[E]: i think it's wrong
[G]: I never understood hyperthreading properly either. But I always
thought it was free multithreading performance, at least if each thread
can use different execution ports on the CPU. One thread can do float
math while the other is doing integer math, one thread can do whatever
when the other is waiting on a cache miss, etc
[E]: it's about one core executing two threads in parallel
[E]: sharing the internal resources of the core (decoder, ALUs, etc.)
[G]: And modern CPUs have like 10 execution ports, so they can share
more granular stuff than "float math" or "int math". Or so I think
[F]: well every core has limited resources, and hyperthreading also
allows for multiple threads to share those resources reducing idle time.
imagine there being 3 float multiply units, and if one thread doesn't
use all of them the other might. Thats really oversimplified but one
thing that works towards performance increase
[D]: Well because of pipelining I imagine it's less dramatic an
improvement than it sounds like.
[E]: if both threads are executing a high latency workload (e.g. memory
accesses), then it's likely to be significant
[E]: bordering on 2x, in the optimal case
[G]: Since this appears to have piqued everyone's curiosity, I will test
Tiltak's hyperthreading scaling
[D]: Yeah I guess you raise a good point about memory access.
[G]: I'm also not sure the pipeline mental model is accurate anymore. To
my understanding, modern CPUs can execute instructions truly in
parallel, e.g. issue several instructions on the same clock cycle
[D]: Probably some, not others. Just to make it more inscrutable.
[F]: they usually fetch multiple instructions each cycle. the biggest
difference to the traditional pipeline is the massive amount of
reordering of instructions that happens in a processor. basically for
every instruction, the dependencies are "calculated" and then they are
thrown onto a big pile. next step in the pipeline picks as many
instructions as the resources can handle in the next cycle which
dependencies are resolved (or going to be resolved soon enough)
[G]: I created the following ad-hoc benchmark: Run Tiltak for 1m nodes
from the 6s starting position, and print the result. Do this 24 times,
with either 12 or 24 threads. I ran the benchmark 3 times for each case.
12 threads:
```
- 17.10s
- 17.16s
- 17.21s
```
24 threads:
```
...
[G]: I haven't actually measured this either, but I don't think Tiltak
spends much time at all on memory accesses. It does spend time on stupid
stuff like floating-point division though, that seems like a good
candidate for hyperthreading
[F]: 18% is still something
[G]: I'll definitely take it. It's not 1.4x or 2x though
[F]: I mean 24 threads could probably also have decreased performance
because of some weird caching or something xD
[G]: Yeah, but that's always part of the deal. They're competing for
memory bandwidth too
[F]: the multiple threads are looking at different games, right? do they
share transposition tables? probably not, right?
[G]: No, the workloads were fully independent and deterministic
[G]: Could be some weird bottleneck like memory allocations, Tiltak
allocates like mad
[F]: do you do that during the search as well?
[G]: Yeah, it does several allocations per search iteration
[G]: Some of them are needed to build the search tree, at least one is
just lazy programming
[D]: Btw, in the big ptn you posted earlier, what is the analysis value
from? It looks like it's too long (in seconds) to be the analysis from
the engines during the game?
[G]: The time is real, the engines had 90s + 0.9s increment. The trick
is to run 24 games in parallel
[G]: Given our recent discovery about hyperthreading, the engines are
quite a bit slower like this. But we get a lot of games
[D]: Oh somehow I read 9+0.9, not 90 + 0.9 lol
[D]: That clears it up, at least 😛
[G]: Well there's your games with 10x time control 😁
[E]: first such game i look at and it ends with tako asserting dominance
by finding the most obscure way to finish the road
[E]: almost invoking the dragon clause in the process
[E]: this is gonna be good
[E]: (this is round 16, if someone wants to look at the rest of the game
- it's pretty instructive)
[E]: yo what the heck was round 63? just huge stacks everywhere?
[E]: guess we've been playing tak wrong 😅
[G]: How did it even manage to get 13 flats under its capstone
[E]: several times in the game, in fact
[E]: sorry, the other time was 12
[E]: and twice 11
[E]: sorry, twice 12 also
[G]: Well, Tako loves to capture and Tiltak loves allowing captures
[E]: match made in heaven
[E]: and both engines were certain of their victory
[G]: Hah, that's the funniest part about these matches
[E]: yeah, until one of them is like oh shi-
[E]: the funny part about this one is that tako's eval was at +40, then
fell to 0, and then it found a forced loss
[G]: +40 is around the same eval as 0x57's tinue puzzle 😄
[B]: I've actually wondered if the game solve involves early stacking or
something equally frowned upon by human players.
[G]: Tiltak's take on this is a hard no. Its strategy is more flats more
better, all the way to the bank
[G]: It doesn't stack much, and doesn't mind the opponent doing so at
all
[B]: Yeah, it seems to be a sound strategy, just a what if... kinda
thought.
[D]: Deciding how to handle stacks may be the "hardest" single thing in
Tak, in my mind.
[D]: Like, medium sized stacks that are flats on top.
[D]: Do you recapture, and let your opponent wall. If your opponent
walls do you run away? Or do you wall yourself? Or do you ignore it?
[E]: mhm, it seems intractable
[E]: especially with regards to how it interacts with the endgame
[E]: though one idea i've been mentally toying with is evaluating things
as if it's the endgame
[E]: it comes with its own bundle of problems tho
[E]: i will probably want to try and implement it eventually, but that's
after i make something functional
[D]: Everyone's a gangsta until they actually sit down at the keyboard
😉
[E]: i'm past that phase
[E]: that doesn't have to stop me from fantasizing though
[D]: Past it how?
[E]: being gangsta before sitting down at the keyboard
[D]: I didn't mean it as a hubris thing, really, just that there's
always some opportunity costs to implementing the ideas. Always more
ideas than there is time to fiddle with them
[E]: really struggling with that problem
[E]: frankly i'm more of a theory guy, or, in other words, lazy
[D]: Is there an easy way to paste in PTN and get it to have the names
and flat counts in ptn.ninja?
[E]: uhh there's a pencil thing in the top left
[E]: edit ptn
[E]: it kind of works
[D]: Yeah but it's not giving me the top bar or whatever. Maybe it's
minimized idk
[D]: Looks like
[D]: Idk doesn't it usually say the player's name and have the fcd at
the top?
[E]: oh
[D]: Where is that bit?
[E]: it's in preferences
[E]: under board
[E]: turn indicator
[E]: > Hotkey: T
[E]: ^ this is probably your problem
[D]: Ah so I probably hit T at some point and it fucked off
[D]: I would argue this is a fail in UX, but okay.
[D]: Thanks
[G]: I think you just gotta calculate it out. Particularly the part
about whether you can run away after the typical capture -> capture ->
wall sequence
[D]: Well it's kind of a recursive problem, right?
[E]: the key problem is basically when do you stop?
[D]: I don't know if the resulting position is good because there will
be multiflat stacks left a lot of the time
[D]: I'm thinking about it from a human perspective I should say, not
even bringing in bot challenges.
[D]: I do think I've gotten a little bit better at it in the past year,
but it's tough.
[E]: there are some situations where you can mostly evaluate the stacks
statically, but they seem to come up way too rarely in real games
[A]: I think it depends on context.
[G]: Well, if you have a good spread to run away, you're usually okay.
If you have to leave some of their flats behind due to carry limit, or
you're otherwise lacking space, you're not okay
[A]: If the stack has no walls around it, it’s more likely to be better
to be the player that gets it.
[A]: Or if you can spread it so that the liabilities end up next to your
cap.
[D]: Sure, you're right. It can't be evaluated in a vacuum, so the
problem I'm bringing up is pretty vague. But running a lot of times just
leaves behind a bunch of trash stacks that a wall can scope up one by
one.
[G]: I tried to implement a pursuit heuristic in Tiltak a while ago. I
can't remember if I actually made it work
[E]: oh? what's that?
[G]: It would to capture whatever was just left behind by a stack spread
[E]: huh
[D]: Yeah I have some ideas adjacent to that as well.
[G]: I did several related heuristics. I can't remember if I got to that
one. It's pretty situational
[E]: that doesn't seem to be the best move most of the time in my
experience though
[E]: usually you can let the liabilities simmer
[D]: Right now I'm trying to make the eval_fn less stupid so I can at
least join the conversation with the big boys 😛
[D]: I guess maybe I should look at what you guys do, but I'm trying not
to cheat really, and maybe bring something new to the table
[G]: In 5s, pursuit is a really important pattern. At least in my
experience vs Aaaargh
[G]: Whenever you both have two flats each surrounding their flat, and
there's a captive under any one of them, the capture sequence is
generally good for you
[E]: on that note, do you have a fill heuristic?
[G]: Because after 4x capture, you can place a wall, and pursue the
stack if it runs away
[G]: It works out differently on 6s due to the extra carry limit
[G]: Yeah I have a policy bonus for winning board fill. I also added
that recently
[G]: I am 90% sure that it works, I don't think I ever tested
[D]: Oh that's a pretty good idea
[D]: Maybe in Monte Carlo it's less important, but still interesting.
[E]: no, i meant filling in a newly-vacant spot
[G]: Oh yeah! That I definitely added. Separate value for each role iirc
[G]: Re-capture heuristic is also a really simple idea that I didn't
implement until recently
[D]: Ooh I think I actually made an improvement!
[G]: That was quick
[D]: Well I only did 6 games but the only one it lost against its old
self is the delightfully suspicious 1. c5 a6 2. f6 c4 (as white) lol
[G]: Careful about that :p I've had matches start out 13-1 and then turn
into a loss
[D]: Yeah I'm evaluating more on the play than the result.
[G]: Small sample size is a drag
[G]: What was your improvement?
[D]: Trying to get it to be less greedy at throwing stacks, mainly
[D]: Which is partly why it was on the mind
[G]: Just in terms of move ordering?
[D]: No, the problem is more in evaluation I think. Well the move
ordering is crap, but I can't really fix it until it can look at a
position better.
[D]: It will make really greedy short term throws at are really
suspicious.
[D]: Because it likes the FCD mainly.
[D]: Or, well, more so because it likes controlling the stacks. But I'm
trying to teach it how fickle its hold on the stacks is
[D]: It's actually impressive how good the bot is with how simplistic
its eval is / was. And considering how manually tuned it is, I suspect
that as long as I get any inkling of an improvement it will be good
[A]: On 5s CrumBot kills Argh just by having a deeper search.
[G]: I think there's an incredible untapped potential in simple minmax
engines
[A]: Despite a super dumb evaluation function.
[G]: Everyone's trying to do too fancy stuff
[G]: A slightly improved Tako could probably go head to head with Tiltak
[D]: Indeed. That's sort of my angle.
[G]: +1, I totally agree. Eval is less important than people think imo
[G]: If your opponent can search two ply deeper, no amount of eval can
save you
[E]: i think i have to disagree on that one
[E]: 2 plies don't compensate for a poor positional understanding, for
instance
[E]: if what you're working towards (positionally) has no chance of
succeeding then 2 plies won't save you
[E]: i suppose there's an intrinsic assumption here that you can be dead
lost positionally despite the simpler metrics suggesting otherwise
[E]: but looking at tako vs tiltak games i'd argue that's the case
[G]: It certainly becomes true at some point, if your eval is a *lot*
better then you can compensate for shallow search
[G]: But 2 ply is a lot, man. On move 30 when stacks are flying
everywhere, it's all about whether you can calculate out the capture
sequence or not
[E]: right, but if you're up 5 walls, 7 liabilities and 10 reserves out
of the middlegame you're screwed
[G]: It's easy to count walls and reserves though. Liabilities is
tricky, but hey, just calculate it out :p
[G]: Tiltak does lose some games where its position is clearly a
disaster at move 10, but it doesn't realize until move 30.
[G]: If someone comes around with a NN engine with great positional
understanding, that might be a problem
[E]: @ 0x57696c6c
[F]: I'm really excited to see where that leads.
[E]: anyway, what i'm trying to say is
[E]: both
[E]: both is good
[E]: no engine to my knowledge has both yet tho
[E]: (because it's hard, of course)
[G]: Tiltak's search is half decent by now. Its eval is terrible
[E]: can you call 100knps good?
[E]: like i know it's mcts
[E]: but that's not nearly enough to see through a good amount of
tactics
[G]: Well, no
[E]: i always thought tiltak was an eval-first bot
[G]: It's decent in a more abstract way :p
[G]: Mathematically sound
[G]: Its policy eval is quite sophisticated, but I consider that a part
of search
[E]: have you ever had this weird idea
[E]: of not using the value network
[E]: no i guess that's impossible huh
[G]: Well, there's SlateBot
[E]: ah
[E]: that checks out
[G]: I really like SlateBot, but it's not that strong
[G]: It gets like 1000 nps
[D]: It does full rollouts or something?
[G]: Yeah, exactly
[D]: I knew it had no value network but I didn't like, consider the
implications of that lol
[G]: Full rollouts turns out to be a worse heuristic than the value
function, in addition to being 100x slower
[G]: But it leads to really interesting play
[G]: It likes making hard caps, for instance, which Tiltak disapproves
of
[E]: have you tried using the policy function inside the rollouts?
[G]: Yeah, it does that
[E]: ah
[G]: You need some kind of policy in them, otherwise they're completely
useless
[A]: Yeah, I've done some experimenting with random rollouts and I
completely agree.
[G]: Oh, I had a comment about this. I think Tiltak gets around this by
placing an incredibly large value on supports. So it avoids splittings
its stacks unless it gets something for it
[D]: "Supports"?
[E]: morten's term for friendlies in friendly stack
[D]: Interesting. So I guess it's ambivalent to moving the stack in the
event it doesn't give a profit in friendlies, and therefore picks a
better move.
[G]: It also doesn't care much about flat count in general. It cares
much more about having less reserves
[E]: that seems to match up with my own evaluations
[E]: which is good for me i suppose
[D]: Yeah Tiltak has definitely taught me a little bit about that.
[G]: It sometimes loses on flats to Tako even though it's ahead by like
10 in terms of reserves
[G]: Because Tako has gobbled them all up under caps and walls and
whatever
[D]: Yeah, well we've all been on one side or the other of that
situation ourselves too
[D]: It's kinda hard to exactly forsee whether or not you'll have time
to make up the difference
[C]: I kind of agree with Tiltak
[C]: Though I wouldn't make those reserve moves and lost flat
advantage. But I think _in general_ getting your reserve count down is
important.
[C]: And Tako seems to misevaluate stack spreading for +flat gains too
highly when there is time for those uncovered captives to get gobbled up
[E]: i think it's important to have less reserves than your opponent,
but not necessarily by a landslide
[E]: just enough so that you control when the game ends
[E]: it interacts quite heavily with available +FCDs, too
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[G]: What did he do
[L]: yea
[M]: my krunker error
[F]: skill issue
[M]: shut up who asked you
[F]: no you shut up
[F]: yupish join here
[M]: i guess someone reported me and im banned from krunker game
[F]: sadge
[F]: tiramisu cake
[K]: farm me
[B]: Why’d you let him farm you?
[B]: That’s also bannable
[J]: what weapon does he play with?
[K]: sniper
[J]: ok
[J]: one of my favourite desserts
[E]: anyone on??
[E]: haha had dinner??
[H]: you
[L]: dinner 😭
[H]: yes
[L]: WHY IS THERE A 004 NOW
[L]: should i be 005
[H]: be 0 0 5 insane
[H]: u will be 0 0 1
[L]: wait someone already has it
[H]: lets go
[L]: lol
[H]: oh okk
[L]: as 008
[E]: Kkk
[H]: yes
[H]: lets go
[E]: Done??
[L]: :00000
[D]: Yo what numbers are left
[D]: N am I allowed to hop on the train
[A]: Am I allowed to be 009
[L]: do itttttttt
[L]: u diddddddddd
[L]: already
[A]: Yaayyy
[I]: lol the heck is happening
[L]: we’re creating a 00X cult
[I]: lol I’m sure twinkle is happy
[L]: 007 reserved for twinkle when he switches his number again
[L]: 006 I don’t know if silket will change his name to
[D]: So 2 is taken?
[I]: Yes that’s what twinkle is rn
[D]: Ima take that one
[D]: Someone lmk when tinkle switches
[D]: 2 is my lucky number
[D]: W
[H]: lmao
[H]: whats goin on
[D]: New number
[D]: W
[D]: Omw home hbu
[H]: same emily
[H]: its that you
[D]: Can I have 000
[D]: Or is it taken
[H]: its taken ig
[H]: see
[L]: katana has it
[G]: It isn't taken
[D]: i already see it is
[L]: you don’t have a space between number
[C]: Hello
- >-
[A]: Haha thank you! That’s the aim I was going for @C
[B]: Hey guys is anyone here good at setting up discord severs?
[B]: If so please DM me
[C]: I've done it before but pretty basic stuff, lmk if that's what
you're looking for, would love to help if possible @B
[B]: @C I'm just looking for people to help me manage it basically.
[B]: And kind of almost review it. DM me if your willing to help
[D]: Anyone interested in collaboration?
[E]: ..depends?
[D]: @E in what
[E]: ok took a look at your channel. and no way. first go to #channel
and read the rules before posting in multiple textboxes.. and first
establish your channel. 1 video uploaded doesnt really make you reliable
to collab with.
[D]: I don't even have 1 video up
[E]: you do
[D]: Oh yh I forgot about that I need to delete that
[E]: Really go create and have fun before running around asking for
collabs 😛
[D]: I deleted all my vids so I could restart with a group of youtubers
that can play games make jokes and have fun
- source_sentence: new large biome map with 15k15k render distance for future event
sentences:
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[F]: Beep
[D]: Idk what math that is :a_cute_dead_scared_die_no_help:
[F]: Geometric sequence
[D]: Sounds familiar
[F]: Or geometric progression is also a term apperantly
[D]: Nvm never heard of it
[B]: oh these
[B]: i think i know
[B]: but since im french
[B]: i dont want to be wrong so idk
[E]: Ooh i know that
[E]: The geometric equation
[E]: A6= blah blah blah
[B]: spawn
[C]: Bootiful
[B]: the map is in large biome
[B]: and that the very first biome
[B]: 15k - 15k render distance
[C]: I love the colours
[C]: its so green
[B]: there is even a good place for a futur event
[B]: yk the season thingy
[B]: just scared about how the server will handle the map
[B]: cuz if i want a good map, gotta be to 10k-10k to 15k-15k
[B]: the v3 was max 2k-2k
[B]: so its wayy bigger
[A]: GODOT HOLY FUC- Been so long since i have used it
- >-
[F]: Impressive
[O]: they said "porting", not adding it to the nintendo service
[U]: wake me up when they do WC09, WC10, WC11 collection
[O]: "and other titles"
[O]: forbidden memories remastered
[O]: which would fit well with the new Millennium archetype, based on
the guy you meet at the start of the game explaining the story (and you
running away to play card games)
[O]: simon?
[D]: I still have my original copy of Forbidden Memories
[D]: It's too bad a compilation of those Yu-Gi-Oh! games won't make it
outside Japan since some are Japanese exclusive. Unless they make a
separate compilation for an international release with what was
initially released outside Japan.
[N]: Falsebound Kingdom Remaster pls
[T]: should i be corncerned if i.. ||have a friend who commisioned an
artist to draw a picture of them doing lewd things to BN characters||
:GeoDoom:
[N]: I mean
[N]: Depends on which characters but I'm gonna go with probably yeah
[P]: yes
[S]: yes
[D]: I bet it's Wily
[N]: If its Wily its ok
[D]: NO, NOT OK. I WAS JOKING
[G]: at least hes of age
[D]: That's enough Internet for today
[T]: indeed
[N]: Wily origin story
[N]: That's why he wants Net Society ended
[D]: lol
[D]: That's one way of taking down Rule 34, take the rest of net society
with it
[D]: Everyone else taking him down are the true villains
[M]: Bring all the Tag Force games to Steam please
And translate the last two
[N]: I love Eternal Duelist Soul which was Expert 5 but I get that 6 was
better with everything lol
[N]: I also liked one of the DS ones
[N]: I think it was the 2008 one
[E]: i played the shit out of the duel academy one lol
[E]: or was that gba? idr
[C]: The best thing EDS has was the simple opponent selection from the
GB DM games. A simple selection like that stopped existing for years
until WC2006 for some reason
[C]: Play the game that inspired mega man battle network
[J]: forbidden memories is a good game until the devs remember how much
they hate your guts
[V]: this sounds great I will play this despite knowing nothing about
yugioh and im sure nothing will go wrong
[J]: ~~i would want theoretical ygo game remasters to have reprints of
the cards that came with them for hard copy editions~~
[T]: i'm missing out
[N]: When the enemy just casually summons Gate Guardian on you
[S]: what is this japanese mobile phone port ass edit lol
[Q]: Wair that exists???
[N]: Interesting game
[N]: I never owned it myself but my friend did
[N]: I always thought DarkNite and Nitemare were in the anime until they
never showed up lol
[H]: Finally played through wily wars
[H]: Cute game
[H]: Very glad I waited until the nso version that fixes the performance
[H]: I found out later though that I wasn’t crazy and they removed quick
man’s buster weakness in it for some godforsaken reason
[H]: and his AI was fixed too so he doesn’t run into walls but is also
broken bc his pattern randomizes
[C]: the original gameboy and gbc yugioh games play like sacred cards
but no story
[C]: they were made before the 2nd anime even aired and before the
official card rules were finalized lol
[N]: Yeah its fun seeing the wacky rules
[H]: Wasn’t one of them the only way to get an exodia piece
[N]: Forbidden Memories fusion and astrological sign stuff was
interesting
[N]: Its kinda similar to how the manga card game worked at first since
they had elemental weakness and stuff there
[C]: the tokyo dome riot was where the exodia piece was at
[H]: Oh wait it had harpy’s
[H]: That’s what I was thinking of
[H]: That one gbc game casually introducing a very fucked up card even
to this day
[H]: Ygo is so funny as an extremely casual onlooker because I’ll post a
card being like “this little guy rules” and my friends will trauma dump
on how it burned their water supplies
[N]: Something Something Yatagarasu
[B]: Melffys going into Zeus
[N]: Oh damn Reload isn't forgiving on a Game Over lol
[N]: Reload when you first entered Tartarus or Title Screen :EguchiLOL:
[N]: And I got one shot from full health, the true P3 experience
[K]: Or the "normal way"
Alt + F4 + "F*uck you stupid game, piece of sh1t" :beluga:
[S]: aww hell yeah they didn't bitch out lets goooo
[N]: holy shit I just realized I got hit with multiple crits lol
[K]: Why eng dub ._.
[N]: why not
[K]: Because japanese dub
[N]: eh, unless it's really bad I prefer being able to understand the
game :BarylSmile:
[S]: the true persona 3 experience has been preserved
[S]: the world order is correct
[N]: Speaking of world order
[A]: I hate that Makoto face in the second pic
[K]: Where is Victory Cry :pleure:
[N]: There's an edit of it with a bigger chin lol
[R]: I think these va’s are pretty good
[R]: I wonder what Takaya sounds like :EguchiApprove:
[A]: Agree to disagree
[R]: Okay, yeah, *some* of them aren’t on par with the OG’s.
[R]: But man, I love Allegra Clark voicing Mitsuru. It’s perfect.
[R]: Derek Stephen Prince was **marvelous** as Takaya.
I’ve yet to hear this new VA for him, so I’m a little excited to see
what voice he went with.
[A]: Correction, Derek Stephen Prince is marvelous.
[R]: Yes. You’re right, how foolish of me.
[N]: Wasn't a fan of new Akihiko but I got used to him
[A]: See, it'd be fine if this were much older Akihiko, but it's not,
it's the exact same character
[R]: Want to have your mind blown?
[R]: The ENG VA for Ikutsuki voiced Michael MORBIUS in a Marvel game.
[I]: I-
[A]: You mean, the *Marvel Legend himself, Morbius* :EguchiTroll:
[I]: XDDDD I DON'T KNOW MUCH ON PERSONA, LET ALONE P3 AND JUST- OH MY
GOSH
[A]: Excellent news
[A]: Guess my favorite part will be when Ikutsuki says "It's Iku time!"
and he Ikus all over those bitches
[L]: they should just have Bill Farmer voice all the male characters
[R]: I unironically love Ikutsuki though
[R]: Idk why my brain gaslit itself into thinking that her name was
Chiori..
[S]: chihiro is a funny character
[L]: NovaMan should rename themselves to PersonaMan
[A]: Would be funny, but it loses the joke behind his name for those who
understand
- >-
[C]: First time making overnight oats. Godspeed 🫡
[C]: Looks like cappuccino. Tastes like heart attack speedrun.
[A]: 1.5 tbsp of honey each is quite a bit
[A]: I use flavoured protein so I usually don't use any sweetener
[C]: Ahhh thank you, in that case I know better for next time! 😁
[C]: I used cookie flavoured protein powder it's gonna be so yum heheh
[A]: Wooo
[B]: I'm kinda sad that I don't like oatmeal (texture being the main
component).
[D]: Don't be. I actually like oatmeal but it makes me go to the
bathroom once every hour afterwards.
[D]: So don't be sad, you're sparing yourself from that
datasets:
- Plasmoxy/DiscordSum
pipeline_tag: sentence-similarity
library_name: sentence-transformers
metrics:
- cosine_accuracy@1
- cosine_accuracy@3
- cosine_accuracy@5
- cosine_accuracy@10
- cosine_precision@1
- cosine_precision@3
- cosine_precision@5
- cosine_precision@10
- cosine_recall@1
- cosine_recall@3
- cosine_recall@5
- cosine_recall@10
- cosine_ndcg@10
- cosine_mrr@10
- cosine_map@10
model-index:
- name: SentenceTransformer based on google/embeddinggemma-300m
results:
- task:
type: information-retrieval
name: Information Retrieval
dataset:
name: discord ir eval
type: discord_ir_eval
metrics:
- type: cosine_accuracy@1
value: 0.164
name: Cosine Accuracy@1
- type: cosine_accuracy@3
value: 0.479
name: Cosine Accuracy@3
- type: cosine_accuracy@5
value: 0.77
name: Cosine Accuracy@5
- type: cosine_accuracy@10
value: 0.931
name: Cosine Accuracy@10
- type: cosine_precision@1
value: 0.164
name: Cosine Precision@1
- type: cosine_precision@3
value: 0.15966666666666665
name: Cosine Precision@3
- type: cosine_precision@5
value: 0.154
name: Cosine Precision@5
- type: cosine_precision@10
value: 0.09310000000000002
name: Cosine Precision@10
- type: cosine_recall@1
value: 0.164
name: Cosine Recall@1
- type: cosine_recall@3
value: 0.479
name: Cosine Recall@3
- type: cosine_recall@5
value: 0.77
name: Cosine Recall@5
- type: cosine_recall@10
value: 0.931
name: Cosine Recall@10
- type: cosine_ndcg@10
value: 0.5159011663789463
name: Cosine Ndcg@10
- type: cosine_mrr@10
value: 0.3850634920634911
name: Cosine Mrr@10
- type: cosine_map@10
value: 0.38506349206349205
name: Cosine Map@10
SentenceTransformer based on google/embeddinggemma-300m
This is a sentence-transformers model finetuned from google/embeddinggemma-300m on the discord_sum dataset. It maps sentences & paragraphs to a 768-dimensional dense vector space and can be used for semantic textual similarity, semantic search, paraphrase mining, text classification, clustering, and more.
Model Details
Model Description
- Model Type: Sentence Transformer
- Base model: google/embeddinggemma-300m
- Maximum Sequence Length: 2048 tokens
- Output Dimensionality: 768 dimensions
- Similarity Function: Cosine Similarity
- Training Dataset:
- Language: en
Model Sources
- Documentation: Sentence Transformers Documentation
- Repository: Sentence Transformers on GitHub
- Hugging Face: Sentence Transformers on Hugging Face
Full Model Architecture
SentenceTransformer(
(0): Transformer({'max_seq_length': 2048, 'do_lower_case': False, 'architecture': 'Gemma3TextModel'})
(1): Pooling({'word_embedding_dimension': 768, 'pooling_mode_cls_token': False, 'pooling_mode_mean_tokens': True, 'pooling_mode_max_tokens': False, 'pooling_mode_mean_sqrt_len_tokens': False, 'pooling_mode_weightedmean_tokens': False, 'pooling_mode_lasttoken': False, 'include_prompt': True})
(2): Dense({'in_features': 768, 'out_features': 3072, 'bias': False, 'activation_function': 'torch.nn.modules.linear.Identity'})
(3): Dense({'in_features': 3072, 'out_features': 768, 'bias': False, 'activation_function': 'torch.nn.modules.linear.Identity'})
(4): Normalize()
)
Usage
Direct Usage (Sentence Transformers)
First install the Sentence Transformers library:
pip install -U sentence-transformers
Then you can load this model and run inference.
from sentence_transformers import SentenceTransformer
# Download from the 🤗 Hub
model = SentenceTransformer("Plasmoxy/embeddinggemma-300m-DiscordSum-RC-PD58")
# Run inference
queries = [
"new large biome map with 15k15k render distance for future event",
]
documents = [
'[F]: Beep\n[D]: Idk what math that is :a_cute_dead_scared_die_no_help:\n[F]: Geometric sequence\n[D]: Sounds familiar\n[F]: Or geometric progression is also a term apperantly\n[D]: Nvm never heard of it\n[B]: oh these\n[B]: i think i know\n[B]: but since im french\n[B]: i dont want to be wrong so idk\n[E]: Ooh i know that\n[E]: The geometric equation\n[E]: A6= blah blah blah\n[B]: spawn\n[C]: Bootiful\n[B]: the map is in large biome\n[B]: and that the very first biome\n[B]: 15k - 15k render distance\n[C]: I love the colours\n[C]: its so green\n[B]: there is even a good place for a futur event\n[B]: yk the season thingy\n[B]: just scared about how the server will handle the map\n[B]: cuz if i want a good map, gotta be to 10k-10k to 15k-15k\n[B]: the v3 was max 2k-2k\n[B]: so its wayy bigger\n[A]: GODOT HOLY FUC- Been so long since i have used it',
"[C]: First time making overnight oats. Godspeed 🫡\n[C]: Looks like cappuccino. Tastes like heart attack speedrun.\n[A]: 1.5 tbsp of honey each is quite a bit\n[A]: I use flavoured protein so I usually don't use any sweetener\n[C]: Ahhh thank you, in that case I know better for next time! 😁\n[C]: I used cookie flavoured protein powder it's gonna be so yum heheh\n[A]: Wooo\n[B]: I'm kinda sad that I don't like oatmeal (texture being the main component).\n[D]: Don't be. I actually like oatmeal but it makes me go to the bathroom once every hour afterwards.\n[D]: So don't be sad, you're sparing yourself from that",
'[F]: Impressive\n[O]: they said "porting", not adding it to the nintendo service\n[U]: wake me up when they do WC09, WC10, WC11 collection\n[O]: "and other titles"\n[O]: forbidden memories remastered\n[O]: which would fit well with the new Millennium archetype, based on the guy you meet at the start of the game explaining the story (and you running away to play card games)\n[O]: simon?\n[D]: I still have my original copy of Forbidden Memories\n[D]: It\'s too bad a compilation of those Yu-Gi-Oh! games won\'t make it outside Japan since some are Japanese exclusive. Unless they make a separate compilation for an international release with what was initially released outside Japan.\n[N]: Falsebound Kingdom Remaster pls\n[T]: should i be corncerned if i.. ||have a friend who commisioned an artist to draw a picture of them doing lewd things to BN characters|| :GeoDoom:\n[N]: I mean\n[N]: Depends on which characters but I\'m gonna go with probably yeah\n[P]: yes\n[S]: yes\n[D]: I bet it\'s Wily\n[N]: If its Wily its ok\n[D]: NO, NOT OK. I WAS JOKING\n[G]: at least hes of age\n[D]: That\'s enough Internet for today\n[T]: indeed\n[N]: Wily origin story\n[N]: That\'s why he wants Net Society ended\n[D]: lol\n[D]: That\'s one way of taking down Rule 34, take the rest of net society with it\n[D]: Everyone else taking him down are the true villains\n[M]: Bring all the Tag Force games to Steam please\n\nAnd translate the last two\n[N]: I love Eternal Duelist Soul which was Expert 5 but I get that 6 was better with everything lol\n[N]: I also liked one of the DS ones\n[N]: I think it was the 2008 one\n[E]: i played the shit out of the duel academy one lol\n[E]: or was that gba? idr\n[C]: The best thing EDS has was the simple opponent selection from the GB DM games. A simple selection like that stopped existing for years until WC2006 for some reason\n[C]: Play the game that inspired mega man battle network\n[J]: forbidden memories is a good game until the devs remember how much they hate your guts\n[V]: this sounds great I will play this despite knowing nothing about yugioh and im sure nothing will go wrong\n[J]: ~~i would want theoretical ygo game remasters to have reprints of the cards that came with them for hard copy editions~~\n[T]: i\'m missing out\n[N]: When the enemy just casually summons Gate Guardian on you\n[S]: what is this japanese mobile phone port ass edit lol\n[Q]: Wair that exists???\n[N]: Interesting game\n[N]: I never owned it myself but my friend did\n[N]: I always thought DarkNite and Nitemare were in the anime until they never showed up lol\n[H]: Finally played through wily wars\n[H]: Cute game\n[H]: Very glad I waited until the nso version that fixes the performance\n[H]: I found out later though that I wasn’t crazy and they removed quick man’s buster weakness in it for some godforsaken reason\n[H]: and his AI was fixed too so he doesn’t run into walls but is also broken bc his pattern randomizes\n[C]: the original gameboy and gbc yugioh games play like sacred cards but no story\n[C]: they were made before the 2nd anime even aired and before the official card rules were finalized lol\n[N]: Yeah its fun seeing the wacky rules\n[H]: Wasn’t one of them the only way to get an exodia piece\n[N]: Forbidden Memories fusion and astrological sign stuff was interesting\n[N]: Its kinda similar to how the manga card game worked at first since they had elemental weakness and stuff there\n[C]: the tokyo dome riot was where the exodia piece was at\n[H]: Oh wait it had harpy’s\n[H]: That’s what I was thinking of\n[H]: That one gbc game casually introducing a very fucked up card even to this day\n[H]: Ygo is so funny as an extremely casual onlooker because I’ll post a card being like “this little guy rules” and my friends will trauma dump on how it burned their water supplies\n[N]: Something Something Yatagarasu\n[B]: Melffys going into Zeus\n[N]: Oh damn Reload isn\'t forgiving on a Game Over lol\n[N]: Reload when you first entered Tartarus or Title Screen :EguchiLOL:\n[N]: And I got one shot from full health, the true P3 experience\n[K]: Or the "normal way"\nAlt + F4 + "F*uck you stupid game, piece of sh1t" :beluga:\n[S]: aww hell yeah they didn\'t bitch out lets goooo\n[N]: holy shit I just realized I got hit with multiple crits lol\n[K]: Why eng dub ._.\n[N]: why not\n[K]: Because japanese dub\n[N]: eh, unless it\'s really bad I prefer being able to understand the game :BarylSmile:\n[S]: the true persona 3 experience has been preserved\n[S]: the world order is correct\n[N]: Speaking of world order\n[A]: I hate that Makoto face in the second pic\n[K]: Where is Victory Cry :pleure:\n[N]: There\'s an edit of it with a bigger chin lol\n[R]: I think these va’s are pretty good\n[R]: I wonder what Takaya sounds like :EguchiApprove:\n[A]: Agree to disagree\n[R]: Okay, yeah, *some* of them aren’t on par with the OG’s.\n[R]: But man, I love Allegra Clark voicing Mitsuru. It’s perfect.\n[R]: Derek Stephen Prince was **marvelous** as Takaya.\nI’ve yet to hear this new VA for him, so I’m a little excited to see what voice he went with.\n[A]: Correction, Derek Stephen Prince is marvelous.\n[R]: Yes. You’re right, how foolish of me.\n[N]: Wasn\'t a fan of new Akihiko but I got used to him\n[A]: See, it\'d be fine if this were much older Akihiko, but it\'s not, it\'s the exact same character\n[R]: Want to have your mind blown?\n[R]: The ENG VA for Ikutsuki voiced Michael MORBIUS in a Marvel game.\n[I]: I-\n[A]: You mean, the *Marvel Legend himself, Morbius* :EguchiTroll:\n[I]: XDDDD I DON\'T KNOW MUCH ON PERSONA, LET ALONE P3 AND JUST- OH MY GOSH\n[A]: Excellent news\n[A]: Guess my favorite part will be when Ikutsuki says "It\'s Iku time!" and he Ikus all over those bitches\n[L]: they should just have Bill Farmer voice all the male characters\n[R]: I unironically love Ikutsuki though\n[R]: Idk why my brain gaslit itself into thinking that her name was Chiori..\n[S]: chihiro is a funny character\n[L]: NovaMan should rename themselves to PersonaMan\n[A]: Would be funny, but it loses the joke behind his name for those who understand',
]
query_embeddings = model.encode_query(queries)
document_embeddings = model.encode_document(documents)
print(query_embeddings.shape, document_embeddings.shape)
# [1, 768] [3, 768]
# Get the similarity scores for the embeddings
similarities = model.similarity(query_embeddings, document_embeddings)
print(similarities)
# tensor([[ 0.5380, -0.0133, -0.1024]])
Evaluation
Metrics
Information Retrieval
- Dataset:
discord_ir_eval - Evaluated with
InformationRetrievalEvaluator
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| cosine_accuracy@1 | 0.164 |
| cosine_accuracy@3 | 0.479 |
| cosine_accuracy@5 | 0.77 |
| cosine_accuracy@10 | 0.931 |
| cosine_precision@1 | 0.164 |
| cosine_precision@3 | 0.1597 |
| cosine_precision@5 | 0.154 |
| cosine_precision@10 | 0.0931 |
| cosine_recall@1 | 0.164 |
| cosine_recall@3 | 0.479 |
| cosine_recall@5 | 0.77 |
| cosine_recall@10 | 0.931 |
| cosine_ndcg@10 | 0.5159 |
| cosine_mrr@10 | 0.3851 |
| cosine_map@10 | 0.3851 |
Training Details
Training Dataset
discord_sum
- Dataset: discord_sum at 3d21c9e
- Size: 243,787 training samples
- Columns:
queryanddocument - Approximate statistics based on the first 1000 samples:
query document type string string details - min: 5 tokens
- mean: 14.96 tokens
- max: 113 tokens
- min: 107 tokens
- mean: 931.55 tokens
- max: 2048 tokens
- Samples:
query document where XP product key is OEM and already activated but still usable[J]: Nice XP Product Key
[I]: it's OEM only
[I]: good luck using it LOL
[J]: Yes but
[I]: it's also already activated
[J]: Shouldn't be revaling it and you can use it even if your not a OEM
[J]: Nah fr? Did you forget you can reuse keys?
[I]: not if it's already activated?
[I]: i really don't give a shit though, use it if you want
[J]: I've used the same product key for Pro editions of Windows
[I]: ah
[J]: And it was already active
[I]: u can use it if you want, idrc that much lol
[K]: If I ever need to run XP for some reason I'll recall it and I'll use it without your knowledge 😈
[I]: go for it
[J]: Kinda downloaded the image for it :KEKW:
[I]: haven't touched this computer in years, all yours
[I]: in fact i'm thinking of getting linux
[J]: Do it lol
[J]: With 512mb of RAM
[I]: lmao you wouldn't run high end demanding linux distros, good fucking luck! i'd run something older and less demanding - tiny linux
[J]: LInux probably going to run better than Windows
[I]: by a long shot
[A]: o...linux migration discussed with recommendations for void linux debian 11 and tinycore[J]: Nice XP Product Key
[I]: it's OEM only
[I]: good luck using it LOL
[J]: Yes but
[I]: it's also already activated
[J]: Shouldn't be revaling it and you can use it even if your not a OEM
[J]: Nah fr? Did you forget you can reuse keys?
[I]: not if it's already activated?
[I]: i really don't give a shit though, use it if you want
[J]: I've used the same product key for Pro editions of Windows
[I]: ah
[J]: And it was already active
[I]: u can use it if you want, idrc that much lol
[K]: If I ever need to run XP for some reason I'll recall it and I'll use it without your knowledge 😈
[I]: go for it
[J]: Kinda downloaded the image for it :KEKW:
[I]: haven't touched this computer in years, all yours
[I]: in fact i'm thinking of getting linux
[J]: Do it lol
[J]: With 512mb of RAM
[I]: lmao you wouldn't run high end demanding linux distros, good fucking luck! i'd run something older and less demanding - tiny linux
[J]: LInux probably going to run better than Windows
[I]: by a long shot
[A]: o...Lenovo Yoga 370 metal hinges and custom server rack with good cable management shared[J]: Nice XP Product Key
[I]: it's OEM only
[I]: good luck using it LOL
[J]: Yes but
[I]: it's also already activated
[J]: Shouldn't be revaling it and you can use it even if your not a OEM
[J]: Nah fr? Did you forget you can reuse keys?
[I]: not if it's already activated?
[I]: i really don't give a shit though, use it if you want
[J]: I've used the same product key for Pro editions of Windows
[I]: ah
[J]: And it was already active
[I]: u can use it if you want, idrc that much lol
[K]: If I ever need to run XP for some reason I'll recall it and I'll use it without your knowledge 😈
[I]: go for it
[J]: Kinda downloaded the image for it :KEKW:
[I]: haven't touched this computer in years, all yours
[I]: in fact i'm thinking of getting linux
[J]: Do it lol
[J]: With 512mb of RAM
[I]: lmao you wouldn't run high end demanding linux distros, good fucking luck! i'd run something older and less demanding - tiny linux
[J]: LInux probably going to run better than Windows
[I]: by a long shot
[A]: o... - Loss:
CachedMultipleNegativesRankingLosswith these parameters:{ "scale": 20.0, "similarity_fct": "cos_sim", "mini_batch_size": 48, "gather_across_devices": false }
Evaluation Dataset
discord_sum
- Dataset: discord_sum at 3d21c9e
- Size: 12,763 evaluation samples
- Columns:
queryanddocument - Approximate statistics based on the first 1000 samples:
query document type string string details - min: 3 tokens
- mean: 15.05 tokens
- max: 86 tokens
- min: 49 tokens
- mean: 963.97 tokens
- max: 2048 tokens
- Samples:
query document where Sea of Thieves and Fortnite streams starting soon[K]: Sea of theives just starting out https://twitch.tv/lainszvahl
[Y]: https://www.twitch.tv/dnkdtv BE IN FORTNITE!
[B]: Live (french) Road to Sparta (God of War 1 - PS2) : https://www.twitch.tv/tuyatrojouey
[O]: Live: Playing Fortnite and later COD WWII or Vice City. https://www.twitch.tv/nutrilicious
[W]: Live again with Ranked League of Legends! 😉 Come say hi!
https://www.twitch.tv/hicksupixel
[L]: After last nights disaster I am going to try to stream Fortnite again! Starting 5:30
http://www.twitch.tv/beanybeangaming
[E]: Live now! Refining the Pose #ZeroTwo from #DARLINGintheFRANXX for the Pack02 of this month #Patreon
#Twitch www.twitch.tv/nigelgear
#PicartoTV picarto.tv/Nigelgear
[G]: Come Enjoy some Guild Wars 2 & Retrowave Music @ https://twitch.tv/ophypo
[J]: Now Live! Check out my awesome new over lay by Bobby Digital! https://www.twitch.tv/coc_uncut
[A]: Updating ALL the things! I will go LIVE for you Maniacs afterwards!
Tune in here:
http://www.twitch.tv/madnessqtv
[M]: T...live gaming on twitch mixer and youtube with titles including god of war gta v ffxiv overwatch and more[K]: Sea of theives just starting out https://twitch.tv/lainszvahl
[Y]: https://www.twitch.tv/dnkdtv BE IN FORTNITE!
[B]: Live (french) Road to Sparta (God of War 1 - PS2) : https://www.twitch.tv/tuyatrojouey
[O]: Live: Playing Fortnite and later COD WWII or Vice City. https://www.twitch.tv/nutrilicious
[W]: Live again with Ranked League of Legends! 😉 Come say hi!
https://www.twitch.tv/hicksupixel
[L]: After last nights disaster I am going to try to stream Fortnite again! Starting 5:30
http://www.twitch.tv/beanybeangaming
[E]: Live now! Refining the Pose #ZeroTwo from #DARLINGintheFRANXX for the Pack02 of this month #Patreon
#Twitch www.twitch.tv/nigelgear
#PicartoTV picarto.tv/Nigelgear
[G]: Come Enjoy some Guild Wars 2 & Retrowave Music @ https://twitch.tv/ophypo
[J]: Now Live! Check out my awesome new over lay by Bobby Digital! https://www.twitch.tv/coc_uncut
[A]: Updating ALL the things! I will go LIVE for you Maniacs afterwards!
Tune in here:
http://www.twitch.tv/madnessqtv
[M]: T...Giveaways and new content for Brigitte Forge Battalion and Kero Blaster[K]: Sea of theives just starting out https://twitch.tv/lainszvahl
[Y]: https://www.twitch.tv/dnkdtv BE IN FORTNITE!
[B]: Live (french) Road to Sparta (God of War 1 - PS2) : https://www.twitch.tv/tuyatrojouey
[O]: Live: Playing Fortnite and later COD WWII or Vice City. https://www.twitch.tv/nutrilicious
[W]: Live again with Ranked League of Legends! 😉 Come say hi!
https://www.twitch.tv/hicksupixel
[L]: After last nights disaster I am going to try to stream Fortnite again! Starting 5:30
http://www.twitch.tv/beanybeangaming
[E]: Live now! Refining the Pose #ZeroTwo from #DARLINGintheFRANXX for the Pack02 of this month #Patreon
#Twitch www.twitch.tv/nigelgear
#PicartoTV picarto.tv/Nigelgear
[G]: Come Enjoy some Guild Wars 2 & Retrowave Music @ https://twitch.tv/ophypo
[J]: Now Live! Check out my awesome new over lay by Bobby Digital! https://www.twitch.tv/coc_uncut
[A]: Updating ALL the things! I will go LIVE for you Maniacs afterwards!
Tune in here:
http://www.twitch.tv/madnessqtv
[M]: T... - Loss:
CachedMultipleNegativesRankingLosswith these parameters:{ "scale": 20.0, "similarity_fct": "cos_sim", "mini_batch_size": 48, "gather_across_devices": false }
Training Hyperparameters
Non-Default Hyperparameters
eval_strategy: stepsper_device_train_batch_size: 384per_device_eval_batch_size: 384learning_rate: 2e-05num_train_epochs: 1warmup_ratio: 0.1bf16: Truetf32: Truedataloader_drop_last: Truedataloader_num_workers: 8dataloader_pin_memory: Falseprompts: {'query': 'task: search result | query: ', 'document': 'title: none | text: '}batch_sampler: no_duplicates
All Hyperparameters
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overwrite_output_dir: Falsedo_predict: Falseeval_strategy: stepsprediction_loss_only: Trueper_device_train_batch_size: 384per_device_eval_batch_size: 384per_gpu_train_batch_size: Noneper_gpu_eval_batch_size: Nonegradient_accumulation_steps: 1eval_accumulation_steps: Nonetorch_empty_cache_steps: Nonelearning_rate: 2e-05weight_decay: 0.0adam_beta1: 0.9adam_beta2: 0.999adam_epsilon: 1e-08max_grad_norm: 1.0num_train_epochs: 1max_steps: -1lr_scheduler_type: linearlr_scheduler_kwargs: {}warmup_ratio: 0.1warmup_steps: 0log_level: passivelog_level_replica: warninglog_on_each_node: Truelogging_nan_inf_filter: Truesave_safetensors: Truesave_on_each_node: Falsesave_only_model: Falserestore_callback_states_from_checkpoint: Falseno_cuda: Falseuse_cpu: Falseuse_mps_device: Falseseed: 42data_seed: Nonejit_mode_eval: Falsebf16: Truefp16: Falsefp16_opt_level: O1half_precision_backend: autobf16_full_eval: Falsefp16_full_eval: Falsetf32: Truelocal_rank: 0ddp_backend: Nonetpu_num_cores: Nonetpu_metrics_debug: Falsedebug: []dataloader_drop_last: Truedataloader_num_workers: 8dataloader_prefetch_factor: Nonepast_index: -1disable_tqdm: Falseremove_unused_columns: Truelabel_names: Noneload_best_model_at_end: Falseignore_data_skip: Falsefsdp: []fsdp_min_num_params: 0fsdp_config: {'min_num_params': 0, 'xla': False, 'xla_fsdp_v2': False, 'xla_fsdp_grad_ckpt': False}fsdp_transformer_layer_cls_to_wrap: Noneaccelerator_config: {'split_batches': False, 'dispatch_batches': None, 'even_batches': True, 'use_seedable_sampler': True, 'non_blocking': False, 'gradient_accumulation_kwargs': None}parallelism_config: Nonedeepspeed: Nonelabel_smoothing_factor: 0.0optim: adamw_torch_fusedoptim_args: Noneadafactor: Falsegroup_by_length: Falselength_column_name: lengthproject: huggingfacetrackio_space_id: trackioddp_find_unused_parameters: Noneddp_bucket_cap_mb: Noneddp_broadcast_buffers: Falsedataloader_pin_memory: Falsedataloader_persistent_workers: Falseskip_memory_metrics: Trueuse_legacy_prediction_loop: Falsepush_to_hub: Falseresume_from_checkpoint: Nonehub_model_id: Nonehub_strategy: every_savehub_private_repo: Nonehub_always_push: Falsehub_revision: Nonegradient_checkpointing: Falsegradient_checkpointing_kwargs: Noneinclude_inputs_for_metrics: Falseinclude_for_metrics: []eval_do_concat_batches: Truefp16_backend: autopush_to_hub_model_id: Nonepush_to_hub_organization: Nonemp_parameters:auto_find_batch_size: Falsefull_determinism: Falsetorchdynamo: Noneray_scope: lastddp_timeout: 1800torch_compile: Falsetorch_compile_backend: Nonetorch_compile_mode: Noneinclude_tokens_per_second: Falseinclude_num_input_tokens_seen: noneftune_noise_alpha: Noneoptim_target_modules: Nonebatch_eval_metrics: Falseeval_on_start: Falseuse_liger_kernel: Falseliger_kernel_config: Noneeval_use_gather_object: Falseaverage_tokens_across_devices: Trueprompts: {'query': 'task: search result | query: ', 'document': 'title: none | text: '}batch_sampler: no_duplicatesmulti_dataset_batch_sampler: proportionalrouter_mapping: {}learning_rate_mapping: {}
Training Logs
| Epoch | Step | Training Loss | Validation Loss | discord_ir_eval_cosine_ndcg@10 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.0158 | 10 | 2.5664 | - | - |
| 0.0315 | 20 | 2.0376 | - | - |
| 0.0473 | 30 | 1.5393 | - | - |
| 0.0631 | 40 | 1.3381 | - | - |
| 0.0789 | 50 | 1.2515 | - | - |
| 0.0946 | 60 | 1.18 | - | - |
| 0.1104 | 70 | 1.0803 | - | - |
| 0.1262 | 80 | 1.0435 | - | - |
| 0.1420 | 90 | 1.0492 | - | - |
| 0.1577 | 100 | 1.0053 | 0.9939 | 0.5083 |
| 0.1735 | 110 | 1.017 | - | - |
| 0.1893 | 120 | 0.9814 | - | - |
| 0.2050 | 130 | 0.9895 | - | - |
| 0.2208 | 140 | 0.9719 | - | - |
| 0.2366 | 150 | 0.9824 | - | - |
| 0.2524 | 160 | 0.9602 | - | - |
| 0.2681 | 170 | 0.9875 | - | - |
| 0.2839 | 180 | 0.9476 | - | - |
| 0.2997 | 190 | 0.9297 | - | - |
| 0.3155 | 200 | 0.9047 | 0.9026 | 0.5100 |
| 0.3312 | 210 | 0.9411 | - | - |
| 0.3470 | 220 | 0.9395 | - | - |
| 0.3628 | 230 | 0.9147 | - | - |
| 0.3785 | 240 | 0.9398 | - | - |
| 0.3943 | 250 | 0.935 | - | - |
| 0.4101 | 260 | 0.8673 | - | - |
| 0.4259 | 270 | 0.8771 | - | - |
| 0.4416 | 280 | 0.9182 | - | - |
| 0.4574 | 290 | 0.8744 | - | - |
| 0.4732 | 300 | 0.8511 | 0.8605 | 0.5155 |
| 0.4890 | 310 | 0.9027 | - | - |
| 0.5047 | 320 | 0.8582 | - | - |
| 0.5205 | 330 | 0.8991 | - | - |
| 0.5363 | 340 | 0.8903 | - | - |
| 0.5521 | 350 | 0.863 | - | - |
| 0.5678 | 360 | 0.8429 | - | - |
| 0.5836 | 370 | 0.8609 | - | - |
| 0.5994 | 380 | 0.8184 | - | - |
| 0.6151 | 390 | 0.9005 | - | - |
| 0.6309 | 400 | 0.853 | 0.8363 | 0.5178 |
| 0.6467 | 410 | 0.8573 | - | - |
| 0.6625 | 420 | 0.8761 | - | - |
| 0.6782 | 430 | 0.9104 | - | - |
| 0.6940 | 440 | 0.8221 | - | - |
| 0.7098 | 450 | 0.8066 | - | - |
| 0.7256 | 460 | 0.8495 | - | - |
| 0.7413 | 470 | 0.8726 | - | - |
| 0.7571 | 480 | 0.8492 | - | - |
| 0.7729 | 490 | 0.8683 | - | - |
| 0.7886 | 500 | 0.817 | 0.8236 | 0.5149 |
| 0.8044 | 510 | 0.8442 | - | - |
| 0.8202 | 520 | 0.8626 | - | - |
| 0.8360 | 530 | 0.821 | - | - |
| 0.8517 | 540 | 0.8213 | - | - |
| 0.8675 | 550 | 0.8556 | - | - |
| 0.8833 | 560 | 0.8303 | - | - |
| 0.8991 | 570 | 0.8374 | - | - |
| 0.9148 | 580 | 0.8545 | - | - |
| 0.9306 | 590 | 0.832 | - | - |
| 0.9464 | 600 | 0.8904 | 0.8197 | 0.5159 |
| 0.9621 | 610 | 0.8581 | - | - |
| 0.9779 | 620 | 0.8152 | - | - |
| 0.9937 | 630 | 0.8459 | - | - |
Framework Versions
- Python: 3.11.5
- Sentence Transformers: 5.2.0
- Transformers: 4.57.3
- PyTorch: 2.8.0+cu128
- Accelerate: 1.12.0
- Datasets: 4.4.2
- Tokenizers: 0.22.1
Citation
BibTeX
Sentence Transformers
@inproceedings{reimers-2019-sentence-bert,
title = "Sentence-BERT: Sentence Embeddings using Siamese BERT-Networks",
author = "Reimers, Nils and Gurevych, Iryna",
booktitle = "Proceedings of the 2019 Conference on Empirical Methods in Natural Language Processing",
month = "11",
year = "2019",
publisher = "Association for Computational Linguistics",
url = "https://arxiv.org/abs/1908.10084",
}
CachedMultipleNegativesRankingLoss
@misc{gao2021scaling,
title={Scaling Deep Contrastive Learning Batch Size under Memory Limited Setup},
author={Luyu Gao and Yunyi Zhang and Jiawei Han and Jamie Callan},
year={2021},
eprint={2101.06983},
archivePrefix={arXiv},
primaryClass={cs.LG}
}