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Qwen3.8-27B — MLX 4-bit

A native Apple-silicon conversion of Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B, quantized with stock 4-bit affine weights for MLX-VLM and oMLX.

Original model · Qwen · MLX-VLM · Apache 2.0

About this conversion

This repository contains a stock 4-bit affine MLX conversion of Qwen3.8-27B. The upstream model is a dense, native vision-language model with flexible thinking control and support for text, images, and video. Its tokenizer, processor configuration, chat template, and generation configuration are preserved.

Item Value
Base model Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
Format MLX safetensors
Quantization 4-bit affine, group size 64
Effective precision 4.695 bits per weight
Conversion stack mlx-vlm 0.6.3, mlx-lm 0.31.3, mlx 0.32.0
Weight shards 3
Weight size 16.06 GB (14.95 GiB)
Maximum configured context 262,144 tokens
Architecture qwen3_5 / Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration

Apple-silicon performance

This checkpoint was load-tested and generation-tested on the following machine:

Hardware Configuration
Host Mac Studio
Chip Apple M3 Ultra
CPU 32 cores (24 performance + 8 efficiency)
Unified memory 256 GB
Runtime MLX-VLM 0.6.3 / MLX 0.32.0
Measurement Result
Decode (median) 39.90 tokens/s
Reported peak memory 20.14 GB
Timed runs 3 × 256 generated tokens
Warm-up 256 generated tokens
Prompt 81 tokens after chat templating

The decode figure is the median of three greedy 256-token runs after a 256-token Metal-kernel warm-up. Individual runs measured 39.90, 39.89, and 39.91 tokens/s. This is a practical local reference, not a controlled cross-platform benchmark; prompt length, context growth, sampler settings, memory pressure, thermal state, and runtime versions can materially change performance.

Quick start with MLX-VLM

python -m pip install -U mlx-vlm huggingface_hub

python -m mlx_vlm.generate \
  --model Vontra/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit \
  --prompt "Explain the difference between linear and full attention." \
  --max-tokens 512

Download for local use:

hf download Vontra/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit \
  --local-dir ~/.omlx/models/Vontra/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit

Using it with oMLX

  1. Place the model at ~/.omlx/models/Vontra/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit.
  2. Refresh the oMLX model registry.
  3. Load Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit and use the chat UI or OpenAI-compatible endpoint.
curl http://localhost:8000/v1/chat/completions \
  -H "Content-Type: application/json" \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer $OMLX_API_KEY" \
  -d '{
    "model": "Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit",
    "messages": [{"role": "user", "content": "Write a short Swift actor example."}],
    "temperature": 1.0,
    "top_p": 0.95,
    "max_tokens": 256
  }'

For long prompts, begin with a conservative context limit and increase it while watching memory pressure. The configured context is a model capability, not a guarantee that every host can prefill it within available unified memory.

Architecture

Qwen3.8-27B is a dense causal language model with a vision encoder. It uses the Qwen3.5 architectural foundation, interleaving Gated DeltaNet linear-attention blocks with periodic full-attention blocks.

Architecture detail Upstream value
Parameters 27B
Language layers 64
Hidden size 5,120
Attention heads / KV heads 24 / 4
Linear-attention V / QK heads 48 / 16
FFN intermediate size 17,408
Vocabulary / padded embeddings 248,320
Configured context 262,144 tokens

For upstream evaluations, usage guidance, intended use, limitations, safety information, and the full architecture discussion, see the original model card.

Conversion and validation notes

  • Source weights: the official Qwen checkpoint.
  • Quantization: stock 4-bit affine weights with group size 64.
  • The upstream tokenizer, processor files, chat template, and generation configuration are preserved.
  • All 2,180 converted tensors and all three indexed shards were checked locally.
  • Quantization can reduce output quality relative to the source weights; use a higher-precision variant when quality matters more than memory use.
  • The model was loaded and exercised through end-to-end generation on Apple silicon.

This is a community conversion, not an official Qwen release. Validate quality and numerical behaviour on your own representative workload before production use.

Licence and attribution

The upstream model is released under the Apache License 2.0. A copy is included in this repository; review it before use or redistribution.

All model design, training, benchmark, and upstream documentation credit belongs to Qwen and the original contributors. The MLX conversion, Apple-silicon validation, compatibility work, and packaging are provided by Vontra.

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